BREAKING! Jim Hoft Can’t Tell the Difference Between “News” and a “Press Release”

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Yes, Jim Hoft truly is the Stupidest Man on the Internet. There’s really no one else even close in the crowded field of dim-witted right wing derpitude. And today he proves it yet again with another BREAKING! post that’s going to blow the “Hillary’s Health” story wide open!

BREAKING: 71% of Doctors Say Hillary Health Concerns Serious, Possibly Disqualifying!

Breaking!

Now this…

71% of doctors interviewed say Hillary’s health concerns are serious and possibly disqualifying.

PR Newswire reports…

Hoft either doesn’t know or doesn’t care that PR Newswire doesn’t “report” anything. It’s a paid press release service. People and groups give them money to publish their releases, with no editing or “reporting” at all.

But it gets even stupider! Because the group that paid for this nonsensical story Hoft headlines as BREAKING NEWS is the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, an innocuous-sounding name that conceals one of the most ridiculous crackpot far right organizations in America, who promote AIDS denial, Birtherism, anti-vaccination craziness, and even pushed a conspiracy theory that Obama hypnotized Jews into voting for him in 2008 with mysterious hand gestures and body language. These are the loony doctors B-movies have been warning us about for years.

Keep up the good work, Jim! You’re way ahead of the pack when it comes to promoting the dumbest conspiracy theories imaginable.

UPDATE at 9/8/16 5:18:54 pm by Charles Johnson

And now Drudge Report is joining the chorus of stupidity and running with the same crackpot press release as their top story…

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532 comments

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freetoken  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:04:28pm

It is worth pointing out that AAPS is the nutty organization to which the Pauls belong.

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Skip Intro  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:04:54pm

Is it on Drudge yet?

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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:07:47pm

This isn’t just a Jim Hoft thing. There is no difference between news and a press release for any Republican, depending on the kind of press release it is.

Republican press releases are news. Any media reports to the contrary are lies from the pit of hell.

Democratic press releases are lies from the pit of hell.

Easy peasy.

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:08:07pm

Ah, the good old AAPS. Figured they’d weigh in with baffling bs. And it was only a matter of time before Hoft picked up and touted the PR nonsense as actual news, instead of a self-serving fact-free diatribe by a fringe group that isn’t credentialed or represents the mainstream medical community.

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TedStriker  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:08:49pm

And, for those unaware, the Pauls (both daddy Ron and “Aqua Buddha” Rand) were hip-deep in the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.

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insert_funny  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:10:11pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

Is it on Drudge yet?

Not until InfoWars picks it up.

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:11:28pm

re: #5 TedStriker

The AAPS has been featured at LGF before. I know I’ve posted a few pages on this, as has Charles.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:12:27pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:12:45pm

It’s multiplying, like a mutated bacteria from outer space

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:12:46pm

Just noticed that Jim sneakily changed his text - he changed “PR Newswire reports” to “Via PR Newswire” right after I tweeted at him.

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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:16:14pm

I vote for malice instead of stupidity in this case. If someone tried to pass off a Planned Parenthood press release or (back in the day) an ACORN press release as “news”, RWNJ commenters like Hoft et al. would have caught that.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:19:23pm
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The Mountain That Blogs  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:20:39pm

On behalf of doctors everywhere, I apologize for these folks. And Ben Carson.

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TedStriker  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:21:03pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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They’re so desperate to make their “Don’t you think she looks tired?” gambit work (that they lifted from Doctor Who).

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:23:06pm

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:27:03pm
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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:29:10pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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It’ll probably be Jr. who retweets—Trump only looks at tweets that have his name in them.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:37:20pm
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b.d.  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:41:51pm

I heard those doctors said that Hillary also has an orbital blowout fracture of her eye socket.

Maybe we can find the x-ray?

//

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:42:09pm

Has anyone else been having issues with being logged off your mobile device while you are still active. Or on another tab? This has been happening to me quite a bit since the last OS upgrade.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:50:15pm

Wow such Presidential very leadership so respect wow

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Skip Intro  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:50:34pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

We know Fox will run with this. The question is when will Chuck Todd or Chris Mathews pick it up?

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b.d.  Sep 8, 2016 • 5:53:14pm

re: #23 Skip Intro

We know Fox will run with this. The question is when will Chuck Todd or Chris Mathews pick it up?

[chuck todd] The optics of this fake story make Hillary look bad. [/chuck todd]

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:01:28pm

Oh, good! Radical Anxiety Termination is here:

Alcohol Dependence Can Be Reversed, Rat Study Suggests

A specific group of brain cells appears to drive excessive alcohol drinking, and targeting these cells may reverses alcohol dependence, at least in rats, a new study finds.

In the study, the researchers trained rats how to self-administer alcohol out of a chamber, and caused some rats to become dependent on alcohol. They then injected the rats with a compound that could inactivate, or “turn off” a very specific set of brain cells in an area known as the amygdala.

They found that inactivating these brain cells caused the rats to completely cease their compulsive drinking.

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JasonA  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:02:02pm

Oh snap. Rachel is talking about Alex Jones and Infowars.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:09:58pm

From Wonkette:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:10:15pm

I think Jim is in front of a green screen. Hiding that he still lives with mommy.

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Skip Intro  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:11:58pm

re: #28 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s not looking well at all. Is that a melanoma next to his nose, or just a tumor?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:12:36pm

re: #28 GlutenFreeJesus

I think Jim is in front of a green screen. Hiding that he still lives with mommy.

He’s ashamed to admit that he’s over 40 and never had a girlfriend so he made up that he’s gay.

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Skip Intro  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:13:12pm

re: #26 JasonA

Oh snap. Rachel is talking about Alex Jones and Infowars.

Every time I’ve watched her it seems that she takes an awful lot of time to say not so much.

Maybe it’s just me.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:14:18pm

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

He’s ashamed to admit that he’s over 40 and never had a girlfriend so he made up that he’s gay.

Reminds me of that episode of Bones where the trapeze artists faked a murder to cover up an accident.

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Skip Intro  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:16:02pm

I’ve just run a poll of Internet Doctor Internists On Twitter and 98% of them think DimJim is suffering from a serious medical problem.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:19:00pm

Is it that Hoft can’t tell, or that he just doesn’t care?

…it’s both, isn’t it?

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:19:18pm

re: #31 Skip Intro

Every time I’ve watched her it seems that she takes an awful lot of time to say not so much.

Maybe it’s just me.

I have to admit, when she starts just repeating herself, which she does more & more often these days, I find myself getting frustrated with Rachel. I know that an hour a day is a lot of show to fill up, but c’mon! You’re the only host on MSNBC who’s got the personality and style to bring in an audience.

Get the honchos at NBC to pry loose 1/10 of Lauer’s misspent salary, and hire another research and writing team to generate some more content.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:20:23pm

I bought some Russian glassware from Amazon so this came up in “Recommended Items” for $71
amazon.com

Nyet.

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Skip Intro  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:23:16pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

The United States has a Coat of Arms?

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:26:15pm

re: #25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, good! Radical Anxiety Termination is here:

Alcohol Dependence Can Be Reversed, Rat Study Suggests

Getting married did it for me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:27:17pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

The United States has a Coat of Arms?

Donald Trump has a Coat of Tiny Hands

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:27:18pm

When I first heard about Gary Johnson’s “Aleppo” gaf, I couldn’t help but think he had a similar problem with common “national leader knowledge” not that long ago.
Took me a while, but found in one of my comments back late in July:

If you recall, this was happened right after the week (plus) of FOX News ragegasm over Tubman’s image being selected for the US $20 bill

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:27:42pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

“US Donald Tramp!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:29:18pm

Welp I was browsing Amazon for a birthday present for my granddaughter and came upon this dollhouse

With Caucasian family: $84.95
With African-American family: $395.01

I guess they really REALLY REALLY do not want Blacks moving into that dollhouse neighborhood!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:30:32pm

Looking forward to the annual insane hatefest that is the values voters summit starting tomorrow. It will be interesting to see what red meat Trump throws to them, since he has been posing as a friend to the L G B T Q community.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:30:40pm

re: #41 jaunte

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“US Donald Tramp!”

The bottom picture shows the same cup holder with Stalin and Lenin. Nice company you keep Donnie.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:30:46pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

He’s not looking well at all. Is that a melanoma next to his nose, or just a tumor?

It’s naught a toomah!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:31:47pm

re: #40 FormerDirtDart

When I first heard about Gary Johnson’s “Aleppo” gaf, I couldn’t help but think he had a similar problem with common “national leader knowledge” not that long ago.
Took me a while, but found in one of my comments back late in July:

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If you recall, this was happened right after the week (plus) of FOX News ragegasm over Tubman’s image being selected for the US $20 bill

Ok, he’s sufficiently ignorant to be president.

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:33:26pm

Just saw Hillary’s equivalent of the “Daisy” ad on MSNBC. Pretty powerful stuff.

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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:35:23pm

re: #43 Big Beautiful Door

Looking forward to the annual insane hatefest that is the values voters summit starting tomorrow. It will be interesting to see what red meat Trump throws to them, since he has been posing as a friend to the L G B T Q community.

Trump will dish out the hate to all the usual targets, including LGBTQ people. Trump hasn’t been consistent on anything, so there is no reason to expect his fake concern for non-straight people to be the exception to this rule.

Edited to add: I’m reading a bit about the VVS in the RWNJ Washington Times, and they are going to include a total hate festival to mark the anniversary of 9/11 on Sunday.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:36:39pm

You know that thing Donald Trump said about “body language” at his intel briefing? He was totally lying about that. My surprise, let me show you it.

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:37:47pm

2016 GOP is just the worst.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:38:12pm

“Six current and former senior officials said they were aware of friction between retired Gen. Michael Flynn, one of the advisers Trump brought to the briefing, and the officials who conducted the briefing. Four sources with knowledge of the briefing — including two intelligence officials who spoke to people in the room — said Flynn repeatedly interrupted the briefers until New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie intervened.

Both Christie and Flynn denied the officials’ version of events, with Flynn calling the report “total b__s___” and Christie calling it “a complete work of fiction.”

“…four people with knowledge of the matter told NBC News that one of the advisers Trump brought to the briefing, retired general Mike Flynn, repeatedly interrupted the briefing with pointed questions.

Two sources said Christie, the New Jersey governor and Trump adviser, verbally restrained Flynn — one saying Christie told Flynn to shut up, the other reporting he said, “Calm down.” Two other sources said Christie touched Flynn’s arm in an effort get him to calm down and let the officials continue.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:38:56pm
The briefing was conducted at the “secret” level of classification, and it did not cover sources and methods or covert operations.

Current and former U.S. intelligence officials who asked that their names not be disclosed told NBC News that many members of the current intelligence community — leadership rank and file — were angered by Trump’s comments Wednesday night, and the possibility that he may have disclosed details of his intelligence briefing or attempted to politicize it.

Former CIA and NSA director Mike Hayden, who opposes Trump, told NBC News that in almost four decades in intelligence “I have never seen anything like this before.”
“A political candidate has used professional intelligence officers briefing him in a totally non-political setting as props to buttress an argument for his political campaign,” said Hayden. “And his political point was actually imputed to them, not even something they allegedly said. The `I can read body language’ line was quite remarkable. … I am confident Director Clapper sent senior professionals to this meeting and so I am equally confident that no such body language ever existed. It’s simply not what we do.”

Michael Morell, a former acting CIA director who was President George W. Bush’s briefer and is now a Hillary Clinton supporter, said Trump’s comments about his briefing were extraordinary.

“This is the first time that I can remember a candidate for president doing a readout from an intelligence briefing, and it’s the first time a candidate has politicized their intelligence briefing. Both of those are highly inappropriate and crossed a long standing red line respected by both parties,” he said.

“To me this is just the most recent example that underscores that this guy is unfit to be commander in chief,” Morell continued.

More

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stpaulbear  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:39:02pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

I bought some Russian glassware from Amazon so this came up in “Recommended Items” for $71
amazon.com

Nyet.

I’ve learned to never click on anything at Amazon with ‘tactical’ in the product name.

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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:41:25pm

re: #50 jaunte

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2016 GOP is just the worst.

True, for now. However, I’m sure the GOP will continue to degenerate in 2018, 2020, 2022, etc. for the foreseeable future. The GOP is a hateful cancer on US society and it has nowhere to go but down.

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darthstar  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:42:04pm

Want to know what the best thing about not reading medical discharge papers is? Having two cocktails before seeing the part about avoiding alcohol for the rest of the day…

Whoo-hoo!

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:44:41pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:44:46pm

re: #55 darthstar

Want to know what the best thing about not reading medical discharge papers is? Having two cocktails before seeing the part about avoiding alcohol for the rest of the day…

Whoo-hoo!

What’s done is done, but you might want to call your doctor as a bit of insurance. Possible interactions between alcohol and whatever sedatives were used for the procedure are no joke, and are probably the reason for that recommendation.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:50:56pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:53:34pm

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

You know that thing Donald Trump said about “body language” at his intel briefing? He was totally lying about that. My surprise, let me show you it.

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Their body language was that they wanted to strangle Flynn.

As always, he turns his fails onto others.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:53:51pm

It appears the NorKs have detonated another A-bomb.

cnn.com

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EPR-radar  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:54:33pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart

Every so often, Shepard Smith finds his backbone. Most unusual for a Fox News apparatchik, and this will doubtless end his career there if it persists.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:57:36pm

re: #60 austin_blue

It appears the NorKs have detonated another A-bomb.

cnn.com

Magnitude not much different from the others—IOW, another failure for everybody to hyperventilate about. Plus they must have used up most of the plutonium they could possibly have produced in the time their reactor was running.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 6:59:32pm

re: #62 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Magnitude not much different from the others—IOW, another failure for everybody to hyperventilate about. Plus they must have used up most of the plutonium they could possibly have produced in the time their reactor was running.

They’ve detonated five. Fissile material availability estimates are up to 22 individual weapons, so 17 left.

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MsJ  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:01:17pm

re: #31 Skip Intro

Every time I’ve watched her it seems that she takes an awful lot of time to say not so much.

Maybe it’s just me.

It’s not. My husband hates watching her. Her circuitous routes to get to any point drives him batty.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:01:29pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

Lots of people are going after Trump for how obviously bullshit his claims were, but what I want to know is if he spared a thought for what would have happened if anyone had actually believed them. I mean, don’t the things he accused his briefers of doing have the potential to lead to disciplinary action, had anyone in the administration taken them as being true? At the very least his remarks cast them as extremely unprofessional.

Trump basically hung those guys out to dry.

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:02:21pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

I bought some Russian glassware from Amazon so this came up in “Recommended Items” for $71
amazon.com

Nyet.

Hmm. This is just begging for a special review.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:02:55pm

re: #63 austin_blue

They’ve detonated five. Fissile material availability estimates are up to 22 individual weapons, so 17 left.

I thought it was more like 6 or 8. I think they let it cook too long, which is why their tests are failures. We supposedly got an explosion of some kind out of reactor-grade plutonium in 1962, but no information on yield (or weight) has been revealed. They can’t do it, I’ll bet.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:03:18pm

re: #60 austin_blue

It appears the NorKs have detonated another A-bomb.

cnn.com

On purpose?

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:03:20pm

re: #66 TK-421

Hmm. This is just begging for a special review.

Yup! Anything you put in it tastes like piss.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:04:03pm

re: #69 austin_blue

Yup! Anything you put in it tastes like piss.

It’s for drinking Trump Vodka.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:04:21pm

re: #63 austin_blue

Fissile material availability estimates are up to 22 individual weapons, so 17 left.

What’s been the yield of their warheads? The last statement claimed the last warhead was a hydrogen warhead, but many folks don’t believe that.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:05:45pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:06:55pm

re: #55 darthstar

My discharge papers stated not to sign any legal documents.

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NoSoapForYou  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:06:59pm
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JasonA  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:11:12pm

David Frum is on O’Donnell and looks like he in the middle of one hell of a bender.

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JasonA  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:13:11pm

lol

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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:15:02pm

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:15:08pm

re: #76 JasonA

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lol

Demonstrating the focus and attention to detail a Trump administration would bring to the White House.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:15:25pm

What’s striking is that with any other types of currency you would see scores of police. likely with long arms, around the crash sight.
Pennies….
A couple fire fighters

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JasonA  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:17:23pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

What’s striking is that with any other types of currency you would see scores of police. likely with long arms, around the crash sight.
Pennies….
A couple fire fighters

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They’re unstamped, so even more worthless than pennies!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:17:57pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

What’s striking is that with any other types of currency you would see scores of police. likely with long arms, around the crash sight.
Pennies….
A couple fire fighters

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Unstamped penny slugs. They’re not even pure copper.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:18:16pm

re: #77 BeachDem

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:18:27pm

re: #71 Eric The Fruit Bat

What’s been the yield of their warheads? The last statement claimed the last warhead was a hydrogen warhead, but many folks don’t believe that.

Under pressure from people who want to exaggerate the “threat” for political reasons, the estimates keep getting inflated. 6 or 8 kilotons for the third test is the most they’ve been able to torture the data into. The first test was consistent with a complete failure—high explosive only. The second was a sub-kiloton yield, like a single-point failure. There’s no way the fourth was a two-stage device—if it was, it didn’t work.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:18:45pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

In some countries, those kinds of puns would warrant being shot and/or execution.

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retired cynic  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:20:10pm

re: #77 BeachDem

Sorry! Really uncomfortable!

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Bear  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:20:12pm

re: #80 JasonA

And not even copper blanks.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:20:47pm

re: #68 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

On purpose?

Sadly, yes. So it wasn’t an

“Oopsie!” BOOM! moment.

8 kiloton or so yield. So, slightly smaller than Hiroshima/Nagasaki sized.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:21:45pm

re: #80 JasonA

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Can’t even buy a gum ball with a penny slug

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:22:03pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m pretty sure with everybody’s eyes in the sky as well as their seismic sensors they know exactly what the Moon-face Assasin of Joy is doing.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:25:25pm

re: #77 BeachDem

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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:27:21pm

re: #82 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:30:32pm

Well, I think CNN might have felt some heat from all of the criticism that last night’s forum on NBC got.

Fact checking? At CNN?
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:31:09pm

Watching Rob Lowe roast. Coulter just got up. She has been boo’d twice so far, and silence following most of her “jokes”.

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MsJ  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:33:41pm

re: #91 BeachDem

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:34:07pm

re: #91 BeachDem

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:35:50pm

Did some quick research and a 5.1 seismic equates to a +/- 8 KT weapon, not 15. So, not a fizzle, but definitely a successful boomer. Updated my #87.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:36:18pm
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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:36:19pm

re: #94 MsJ

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MsJ  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:37:14pm

re: #98 BeachDem

I bet!

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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:37:25pm

re: #95 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:37:30pm

re: #60 austin_blue

It appears the NorKs have detonated another A-bomb.

cnn.com

Not to be taken truly seriously until they use one in combat. That’s the rule since Bills term. We have threatened to attack Iran for less. One would hope we would be as protective of Korea and Japan as we would Israel. We had a deal, they broke it and we did so little about it they now have the real deal. We are one hostile detonation away from the realization of stark horrible negligence in this issue.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:44:38pm

re: #101 Great White Snark

Not to be taken truly seriously until they use one in combat. That’s the rule since Bills term. We have threatened to attack Iran for less. One would hope we would be as protective of Korea and Japan as we would Israel. We had a deal, they broke it and we did so little about it they now have the real deal. We are one hostile detonation away from the realization of stark horrible negligence in this issue.

Seoul or Tokyo, muses the NorK Trump.

“Hey, we’ve got ‘em, why can’t we use ‘em?”

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:45:48pm

re: #101 Great White Snark

We haven’t threatened Iran with force, just more crippling sanctions, which were hurting the country. But, the other reason we haven’t put a lot of pressure on North Korea is that the Chinese have way more success than we do. But there’s only so much you can do against a crazy leader unless you are going to remove him. But North Korea also has one more thing: Seoul is close enough that conventional weapons from the North would destroy the city.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:48:28pm

This one is special.

Someone just got 5 years incarceration in Russia for blasphemy…playing pokemon in a Russian Orthodox Church after a government warning that playing pokemon in church would now be considered blasphemy and also illegal.

Crunchy Con lover of religious liberty Rod Dreher was right there today to tell us all about it!

I find that excessive, but I don’t feel sorry for this jackass. His fellow atheists committed mass murder of and terror against Orthodox Christians when they were in power during the Bolshevik tyranny.

I’ll put together a page on this at more length tomorrow, but I thought I would leave you all with that bit of wisdom from the editor of American Conservative…

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majii  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:48:53pm

re: #92 Bill and Opus for 2016!

“Well, I think CNN might have felt some heat from all of the criticism that last night’s forum on NBC got.”

If Trump’s mouth is moving, it’s very likely that he’s lying. I’m beginning to think that Trump has a lifelong habit of lying and thinking that he should suffer no negative consequences for lying. That a significant portion of the American electorate doesn’t care and will vote for him anyway is depressing.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:49:29pm

re: #103 Belafon

We haven’t threatened Iran with force, just more crippling sanctions, which were hurting the country. But, the other reason we haven’t put a lot of pressure on North Korea is that the Chinese have way more success than we do. But there’s only so much you can do against a crazy leader unless you are going to remove him. But North Korea also has one more thing: Seoul is close enough that conventional weapons from the North would destroy the city.

Seoul has a population of 10 million people. Conventional weapons can damage Seoul, but cannot destroy it in any tactical time-frame.

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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:50:43pm

re: #103 Belafon

We haven’t threatened Iran with force, just more crippling sanctions, which were hurting the country. But, the other reason we haven’t put a lot of pressure on North Korea is that the Chinese have way more success than we do. But there’s only so much you can do against a crazy leader unless you are going to remove him. But North Korea also has one more thing: Seoul is close enough that conventional weapons from the North would destroy the city.

That’s not success. And we have threatened Iran with force, because that’s what “will not allow” really means, unless a President blinks. Like that red line in Syria. Sorry Pres. Obama but even your own diplo corps agrees-We tread too lightly on that one. I can appreciate a hesitancy to go to major combat, it’s laudable. At the same time consequences like these are as dangerous as regrettable.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:50:49pm

re: #106 austin_blue

Seoul has a population of 10 million people. Conventional weapons can damage Seoul, but cannot destroy it in any tactical time-frame.

But they could kill a lot of people.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:51:37pm

Instagram

President Obama sips a drink from a coconut while walking through a neighborhood in Laos today.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:53:22pm

Instagram

President Obama greeting people in a Laos neighborhood yesterday.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:53:27pm

re: #108 Big Beautiful Door

But they could kill a lot of people.

Sure. And the ROK’s, who have a real Air Force, will fuck them a new asshole in a New York Minute.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:53:32pm

re: #104 Scottishdragon

So Dreher is okay with someone being arrested for nonsense because in the distant past, Christians were killed by dictators? Alrighty then. I’d love him to apply that same logic to Christians here when one of them shoots up an abortion clinic.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:55:14pm

Flickr

I built the entire house out of cardboard to start. Then dismantled it and used the pieces as a stencil to cut out the dough.
#StayPeculiar

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:55:32pm

re: #108 Big Beautiful Door

But they could kill a lot of people.

And depending on where North Korea strikes, they could put a serious dent on day-to-day commerce to a degree that their economy could be significantly damaged-especially with the amount of trade they engage in (not counting the Hanjin bankruptcy, which is a huge monkey-wrench of its own…..)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:56:33pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

He’s not looking well at all. Is that a melanoma next to his nose, or just a tumor?

Maybe people are saying it’s herpes. Many people.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:56:55pm

Flickr

I baked this gingerbread house to be displayed at a screening of the new Tim Burton film Miss Peregrines home for Peculiar Children. It’s 100% edible… no wooden supports or fondant. Just gingerbread cookies, sugar glass and royal icing. The exterior is painted using edible powder paints.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV_Ih...

#StayPeculiar

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:58:15pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Video does not exist….

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 7:59:41pm

re: #115 Eric The Fruit Bat

And depending on where North Korea strikes, they could put a serious dent on day-to-day commerce to a degree that their economy could be significantly damaged-especially with the amount of trade they engage in (not counting the Hanjin bankruptcy, which is a huge monkey-wrench of its own…..)

Maybe, buy the ROK’s quick strike response would be hellish for the NorKs. Hard to fight a war without electricity.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:03:38pm

re: #106 austin_blue

Seoul has a population of 10 million people. Conventional weapons can damage Seoul, but cannot destroy it in any tactical time-frame.

Eh…the norks have massed artillery and rockets on a scale you would not believe. The biggest artillery pieces can reach Seoul and a bunch of their stuff is on railway carriages that go into protective bunkers under granite hillsides while they reload.

They may not destroy Seoul…but they can wreck the fuck out of it in a short time.

That also doesn’t include what happens if they let loose with persistent chemical agents.

The city would be uninhabitable for months, if not longer.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:08:28pm

re: #119 austin_blue

Maybe, buy the ROK’s quick strike response would be hellish for the NorKs. Hard to fight a war without electricity.

If the North decides to attack…they will go balls to the wall and try to fry or gas (non persistent, most likely…but who knows?) everything within 200 miles while their armor advances.

Japan will probably get hit also. Nukes and nerve agent. The North knows they cannot win on attrition and they will have to grab the south, or most of it, before anybody can respond.

They would probably announce that any nuclear retaliation from us will result in a launch on Hawaii or Alaska. I doubt that would stop anything at all, of course, but if they choose to gamble, they would need to try to go all the way.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:09:40pm

re: #101 Great White Snark

Not to be taken truly seriously until they use one in combat. That’s the rule since Bills term. We have threatened to attack Iran for less. One would hope we would be as protective of Korea and Japan as we would Israel. We had a deal, they broke it and we did so little about it they now have the real deal. We are one hostile detonation away from the realization of stark horrible negligence in this issue.

We had a deal, WE broke it. The first thing Dumbya did was renege on the Agreed Framework where they didn’t fire up their reactor, and we allowed enough food and fuel to enter the country so they didn’t starve or freeze.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:13:18pm

re: #120 Scottishdragon

Eh…the norks have massed artillery and rockets on a scale you would not believe. The biggest artillery pieces can reach Seoul and a bunch of their stuff is on railway carriages that go into protective bunkers under granite hillsides while they reload.

They may not destroy Seoul…but they can wreck the fuck out of it in a short time.

That also doesn’t include what happens if they let loose with persistent chemical agents.

The city would be uninhabitable for months, if not longer.

If they pull that shit, the North will cease to exist. I’m pretty sure China would have a big hand in that.

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makeitstop  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:13:28pm

Josh Marshall is reporting that Nigel Farage is negotiating with Russia Today to be a roving reporter covering the Trump campaign.

Tell me again how that RT appearance was an ‘accident.’ Uh-huh.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:15:40pm

re: #122 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We had a deal, WE broke it. The first thing Dumbya did was renege on the Agreed Framework where they didn’t fire up their reactor, and we allowed enough food and fuel to enter the country so they didn’t starve or freeze.

They broke it before he took office with continued enrichment. They admitted that much later, Bush who knew then via intel did what he did for cause, unlike other examples like Iraq.

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teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:18:51pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:19:44pm

re: #125 Great White Snark

They broke it before he took office with continued enrichment. They admitted that much later, Bush who knew then via intel did what he did for cause, unlike other examples like Iraq.

Bush was just a puppet—it was that fucking asshole Bolton and his toady Condoleezza Rice who got him to renege on the deal.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:23:02pm

re: #120 Scottishdragon

Eh…the norks have massed artillery and rockets on a scale you would not believe. The biggest artillery pieces can reach Seoul and a bunch of their stuff is on railway carriages that go into protective bunkers under granite hillsides while they reload.

They may not destroy Seoul…but they can wreck the fuck out of it in a short time.

That also doesn’t include what happens if they let loose with persistent chemical agents.

The city would be uninhabitable for months, if not longer.

re: #121 Scottishdragon

If the North decides to attack…they will go balls to the wall and try to fry or gas (non persistent, most likely…but who knows?) everything within 200 miles while their armor advances.

Japan will probably get hit also. Nukes and nerve agent. The North knows they cannot win on attrition and they will have to grab the south, or most of it, before anybody can respond.

They would probably announce that any nuclear retaliation from us will result in a launch on Hawaii or Alaska. I doubt that would stop anything at all, of course, but if they choose to gamble, they would need to try to go all the way.

I agree they may try, but the ROK has 300 F-4, F-15, and F-16s, and no small number of Better Tanks and Better Artillery than the NorKs have. It’s good to be a rich capitalist Asian Tiger with a mature homegrown weapons industry. The NorKs can’t feed their own people.

All they have is some baby nukes and some unreliable missiles that can’t get to Hawaii or Alaska and can barely hit the Pacific Ocean. And if they *did* hit Japan or the ROK, the boys and girls at Anderson in Guam would load up the forward-based B-1’s B-2’s, and Buffs with dial-a-yield B-63 gravity weapons and turn everything that isn’t a farm in the North into glowing slag.

It’s called the CKO (China Korea Option) and it has been part of the Emergency War Order capability in the SAC quiver since the 60’s. Been there, sat Nuclear Alert with my helmet and chute in the airplane.

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Teukka  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:24:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:26:03pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

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I want to believe his regret & apology, then I got to the part where he lost his book deal.

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teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:26:41pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

Geraldo is a sleaze.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:27:09pm

re: #129 Teukka

OT-ish, but did this get posted?
Google Program to Deradicalize Jihadis Will Be Used for Right-Wing American Extremists Next

Yes. Teh Intercept.

Actually, that might work. Jihadis are, after all, right-wing extremists.

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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:29:31pm

re: #128 austin_blue

I agree they may try, but the ROK has 300 F-4, F-15, and F-16s, and no small number of Better Tanks and Better Artillery than the NorKs have. It’s good to be a rich capitalist Asian Tiger with a mature homegrown weapons industry. The NorKs can’t feed their own people.

All they have is some baby nukes and some unreliable missiles that can’t get to Hawaii or Alaska and can barely hit the Pacific Ocean. And if they *did* hit Japan or the ROK, the boys and girls at Anderson in Guam would load up the forward-based B-1’s B-2’s, and Buffs with dial-a-yield B-63 gravity weapons and turn everything that isn’t a farm in the North into glowing slag.

It’s called the CKO (China Korea Option) and it has been part of the Emergency War Order capability in the SAC quiver since the 60’s. Been there, sat Nuclear Alert with my helmet and chute in the airplane.

For humanities sake, can we not fight that fight without nukes?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:30:57pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

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Geraldo Rivera always has been and always will be a jerkwad.

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Teukka  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:30:58pm

re: #133 austin_blue

Actually, that might work. Jihadis are, after all, right-wing extremists.

Exactly. It’s just that they are Muslim right-wing extremists and not christian right-wing extremists. The similarities once you peeled off the religion layer of the ideology and anonymize other elements are striking.

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William Lewis  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:32:28pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Looks like mine but in much nicer condition. And do not let any star wars fans get hold of that flash unit!

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Interesting Times  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:34:49pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

I want to believe his regret & apology, then I got to the part where he lost his book deal.

Exactly. It’s really just one long, exceedingly passive-aggressive and self-pitying “gee, I’m sorry I ended up looking bad” screed.

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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:36:08pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

I want to believe his regret & apology, then I got to the part where he lost his book deal.

Bingo. I hate to be cynical (I love to be cynical) but I got 90 bazillion words to say, “Harper Collins pulled my book because I am a dick and an enabler, and the only chance I have of ever being published is a mea culpa.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:36:35pm

re: #125 Great White Snark

They broke it before he took office with continued enrichment. They admitted that much later, Bush who knew then via intel did what he did for cause, unlike other examples like Iraq.

Bush was a dumb fuck who thought negotiation is the reward for doing what we want, not the method to get others to do what you want. I sure hope you’re not thinking Bush was right, or justified, or smart, or anything other than dumb as a fucking post on this topic.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:40:05pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:40:43pm

re: #128 austin_blue

I agree they may try, but the ROK has 300 F-4, F-15, and F-16s, and no small number of Better Tanks and Better Artillery than the NorKs have. It’s good to be a rich capitalist Asian Tiger with a mature homegrown weapons industry. The NorKs can’t feed their own people.

All they have is some baby nukes and some unreliable missiles that can’t get to Hawaii or Alaska and can barely hit the Pacific Ocean. And if they *did* hit Japan or the ROK, the boys and girls at Anderson in Guam would load up the forward-based B-1’s B-2’s, and Buffs with dial-a-yield B-63 gravity weapons and turn everything that isn’t a farm in the North into glowing slag.

It’s called the CKO (China Korea Option) and it has been part of the Emergency War Order capability in the SAC quiver since the 60’s. Been there, sat Nuclear Alert with my helmet and chute in the airplane.

Totally irrelevant detail, but did you mean B-61? Or B-83?

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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:41:24pm

Jesus Keerist on a Triscuit:

Nigel Farage…is in talks with the Russian government owned RT news network to a be roving reporter covering Donald Trump’s presidential campaign this fall.

talkingpointsmemo.com

But that Larry King/RT interview was just a misunderstanding/mistake. Yeah right.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:42:18pm

re: #134 Great White Snark

For humanities sake, can we not fight that fight without nukes?

Nope. Both Japan and Korea have nuclear power stations, but not nukes. Our treaties with them guarantee that any nuclear attack upon them will trigger a like response by us.

And the NorKs know it.

We have dozens of B-63’s in Guam. Ten hours after a flash over Seoul or any Japanese city, the North will cease to exist. It’s simple realpolotik.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:42:28pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Bush was a dumb fuck who thought negotiation is the reward for doing what we want, not the method to get others to do what you want. I sure hope you’re not thinking Bush was right, or justified, or smart, or anything other than dumb as a fucking post on this topic.

To expand - OF COURSE NK cheated. It’s what they do! The cheat a little, you wag our finger, and they stamp their foot, and then you give them some money to stop cheating. In this case, they cheated a little, and Bush went all dumb fuck on them and declared the deal dead, and so went ahead with their program. And now they’ve got nukes, because Bush thought it was more important to LOOK TOUGH than to actually prevent the thing you’re trying to prevent.

But hey, he got to squint his eyes and make all the wingnuts orgasm over how tough and masculine he was.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:44:30pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

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He looks so chill. Just needs a Hawaiian print shirt to look more touristy.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:45:12pm
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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:47:10pm

My Pepper just loves her half and half. The light was kind to us both for this shot

Instagram

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:47:22pm

re: #142 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

totally irrelevant detail, but did you mean B-61? Or B-83?

Shit. B-61. But we also have the B-83 stored in Guam. 340 KT for the 61, 1.2 MT for the 83. Good catch, Thanks.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:51:49pm

Good football game. Last second field goal for the Carolina win?

Duh Duh Duhhhh.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 8:52:45pm

Oh, he missed it! And Cam has got his loser face on!

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bratwurst  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:04:26pm

Boom

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:05:44pm

A North Korean attack, especially a nuclear attack, is exactly the kind of “unforeseen event” (ie total catastrophe) that could put Trump in the White House. It would literally be suicide for Kim and gang though. Even if he survived the mega-shitstorm of retaliation, we would hunt his wretched little ass down like we did Bin Laden—-and he is probably nowhere near as resourceful as Binny was. So, they are not likely to do it. I don’t like having so much riding on the rationality of the NORK leadership though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:07:51pm

I told Mrs. FBW about Trump’s Russia Today interview, and I was trying to explain what RT is, and she says, “3CP1!”

3CP 1, On Your Dial! Russian Television
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William Lewis  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:13:03pm

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel

Don’t you wish we could have James Bond engineer an accident at one of the North Korean tests that just happened to decapitate their government? Alas, that’d still be a better movie than reality but still…

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:13:31pm

B.C. moms caught smoking ‘celebratory joint’ in school zone after dropping kids off for first day

Waiting for a stop sign to turn green? No, turns out it was speeding. In the States, this would be scandalous negligence since parents and cops must stay alert for the latest mass shooter. In Canada, maybe not so bad, though even partially impaired driving is still pretty serious.

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majii  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:15:02pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

“Roger and Me”

Geraldo Rivera didn’t give two sh*ts about how Carlson and other women at Fox were treated by Ailes as long as he received his paycheck on time. If he had cared, he would have checked into their claims before he defended Ailes, but he didn’t. He tainted himself and his reputation by taking Ailes’s side before knowing anything about how he sexually harassed female employees. I think it’s way too late for him to try to clean up his image because the damage was done when he defended Ailes simply because he was his boss and a man. Also, only a fool would expect Ailes to reveal to others the way he treated female Fox employees behind closed doors. He apparently had his wife fooled, too, because I saw an article last week that stated she’s thinking of divorcing him. I don’t know whether to believe she’s as surprised as she’s saying she is because I can’t not think that when he met her and began dating her, some of his sexual habits weren’t revealed. I’m thinking the reason she’s thinking of divorcing him has more to do with the alleged damage to her reputation than her not knowing he was a misogynistic, sexual harassing gas bag. Then, too, based on what I’ve read about how she and Ailes have tried to take over the entire small NY town they moved to, something tells me they’re two peas in a pod when it comes to dealing with persons they consider to be “beneath” them.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:18:03pm

re: #155 William Lewis

Don’t u wish we could have James Bond engineer an accident at one of the North Korean tests that just happened to decapitate their government? Alas, that’d still be a better movie than really but still…

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I want 007 to take a cue from the Casino Royale film:

“How did your meeting with Mr. Trump go, 007?”

“Not well”

“Made him feel it, did you?”

“Yes. Considerably.”

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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:21:22pm

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel

A North Korean attack, especially a nuclear attack, is exactly the kind of “unforeseen event” (ie total catastrophe) that could put Trump in the White House. It would literally be suicide for Kim and gang though. Even if he survived the mega-shitstorm of retaliation, we would hunt his wretched little ass down like we did Bin Laden—-and he is probably nowhere near as resourceful as Binny was. So, they are not likely to do it. I don’t like having so much riding on the rationality of the NORK leadership though.

He creates a culture where some ambitious young officer takes that one step too far.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:22:22pm

re: #157 majii

Never heard the story about his relationship with the town where he lives.

Here’s the story I found.

theatlantic.com

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William Lewis  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:25:01pm

re: #148 Great White Snark

Really nice. I followed your IG account as a result.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:26:48pm

re: #159 Great White Snark

He creates a culture where some ambitious young officer takes that one step too far.

Hopefully, they have at least a modicum of security with their arming codes. Certainly better than the US had when Gen. Jack Ripper launched the fleet from Burpleson AFB.

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majii  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:28:14pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

RE: Ruby Bridges

I remember my first day in Eighth Grade. I didn’t have a police escort, but there were whites rallying outside the school against us few black students attending “their” school. Never mind that my parents and the other black kids’ parents were homeowners and paid their taxes to support what they called “their” school, which was a public school. Sometimes, I don’t “get” people when they start thinking and acting like we’re not all humans and are all facing the same end——death and burial or cremation. Many of those who were rallying against us at the school described themselves as “Bible believing Christians.” Imagine that. I graduated from that school, went on to UGA, graduated from there, taught school for over 30 years and retired in 2009, and I never looked back. We have our 45th class reunion in a few weeks, but I’m not going. I have a hard time keeping my mouth closed when persons who wanted nothing to do with me in the past pretend today that they were my best friends. Maybe I’ll change my mind by the time we have our 50th class reunion, but right now, I don’t think I’ll attend that one, either. Living well is the best medicine to serve to haters.

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retired cynic  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:30:41pm

re: #163 majii

Love your post. Started to say Love You, but that seemed a bit familiar!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:35:36pm

re: #163 majii

Same as the Cynic.

XXOO

(how’s that)

I traced the tweet & found out that it is Ruby’s 62nd b-day today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:36:01pm

Prayers and good juju appreciated. My outdoor kitty Max is MIA. I last saw him yesterday afternoon before I went to work.

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retired cynic  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:36:39pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Prayers and good juju appreciated. My outdoor kitty Max is MIA. I last saw him yesterday afternoon before I went to work.

You’ve got it!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:38:59pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Prayers and good juju appreciated. My outdoor kitty Max is MIA. I last saw him yesterday afternoon before I went to work.

JUJU.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:39:47pm

Mr. Deb does not sleep. Much.

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majii  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:40:41pm

re: #160 Stanley Sea

I read about Ailes and his wife’s attempt to throw their weight around when they moved to Garrison, NY at newshounds back in 2014. I also remember reading a NYT article that mentioned the Ailes’ behavior after they moved there. Gabriel Sherman wrote about it in his book. The Ailes’ behavior shocked some town residents to a point where they began to organize themselves to oppose them.
newshounds.us
nytimes.com

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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:46:16pm

re: #161 William Lewis

Really nice. I followed your IG account as a result.

Thanks much. Always appreciate a follow. I thought of you earlier when Charles posted the old Speedgraphic. Those of us who love the old gear. Film is coming back. 65mm/IMAX, 35mm Super 16. Kodak and Arri and so many others are helping make that happen. I like to think that comes back to medium format and 35mm.

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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:47:59pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Prayers and good juju appreciated. My outdoor kitty Max is MIA. I last saw him yesterday afternoon before I went to work.

All ya want prayers, juju, kind wishes for Max. Hate that feeling of worry.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:49:04pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Prayers and good juju appreciated. My outdoor kitty Max is MIA. I last saw him yesterday afternoon before I went to work.

I’m sending all the good vibrations I can Max’s way. Please let us know when he comes home.

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coin operated  Sep 8, 2016 • 9:52:13pm

re: #128 austin_blue

I agree they may try, but the ROK has 300 F-4, F-15, and F-16s, and no small number of Better Tanks and Better Artillery than the NorKs have….

All they have is some baby nukes and some unreliable missiles that can’t get to Hawaii or Alaska and can barely hit the Pacific Ocean. And if they *did* hit Japan or the ROK, the boys and girls at Anderson in Guam would load up the forward-based B-1’s B-2’s, and Buffs with dial-a-yield B-63 gravity weapons and turn everything that isn’t a farm in the North into glowing slag.

You’ll excuse me if I call bullshit. I’ll find the link shortly, but commenter Major Kong (GOS and I think Gin & Tacos) has spoken with authority about the first hour of a NorK conflict. Even a first strike from South Korea and her allies won’t take out the (estimated) 70K artillery tubes loaded and pointed at Seoul. NorK has stated, in the clearest terms possible, that they are first strike weapons, and the initial casualty estimates start at mid-6 figures in the first 60 minutes of the conflict.

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William Lewis  Sep 8, 2016 • 10:00:40pm

re: #171 Great White Snark

I’m hoping 120 does, it’s big enough to have fun with but not so awkward as sheets can be. I really need a roll film adapter and a decent scanner to really get back to film. I have a glorious 1912 B&L licensed Tessar for 5x7 that I hacked onto a Polaroid self-resetting shutter that I need to make more landscapes with. It’s a beautiful long lens on 6x7cm format.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2016 • 10:02:27pm

If you haven’t checked Owens feed out, you should. He does great dialog…..

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2016 • 10:04:48pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 8, 2016 • 10:06:00pm
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Great White Snark  Sep 8, 2016 • 10:17:00pm

re: #175 William Lewis

I’m hoping 120 does, it’s big enough to have fun with but not so awkward as sheets can be. I really need a roll film adapter and a decent scanner to really get back to film. I have a glorious 1912 B&L licensed Tessa for 5x7 that I hacked onto a Polaroid self-resetting shutter that I need to make more landscapes with. It’s a beautiful long lens on 6x7cm format.

Whoa. That’s quite a setup. Just noticed the clock, gotta sleep to be sharp tomorrow. Be well all.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 8, 2016 • 10:50:41pm

Both The Prisoner and Star Trek turned 50 this month. My dad would be 102 years old (his birthday was the 7th). I think he’d be surprised that both shows, which we watched together on the TV, are still fondly remembered — Star Trek perhaps more so than The Prisoner.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 8, 2016 • 10:55:42pm

re: #171 Great White Snark

Thanks much. Always appreciate a follow. I thought of you earlier when Charles posted the old Speedgraphic. Those of us who love the old gear. Film is coming back. 65mm/IMAX, 35mm Super 16. Kodak and Arri and so many others are helping make that happen. I like to think that comes back to medium format and 35mm.

I still have a Nikon FM stored away back in the USA. I can’t bear to part with it. It needs servicing, as the automatic aperture is sluggish sometimes, so exposures are wack. I’ve never done darkroom work, though, so film for me is too expensive and cumbersome to consider right now. I am pretty sure there is no darkroom left on this campus, and my flat has no suitable space for one.

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teleskiguy  Sep 8, 2016 • 11:02:02pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 8, 2016 • 11:06:53pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

His ties bug me, because they are way too long. I’m no fashion plate, and I rarely wear ties, but I was always told the tip of the tie should never fall below the top of your pants waist. If the tie is too long, use a different knot.

Trump uses the long ties and his oversize suit jackets to conceal his fat belly. Not fooling anyone, though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2016 • 11:57:36pm

So 71% of doctors in America say that Hillary is too sick to run.

This is a big win for the Trump campaign, because every time she shows any sort of visible symptom, it will “confirm” these allegations.

I have resigned myself to the coming of Idiocracy to America. And even if we hold it at bay this election, it will have a new media champion who will usher in the next Idiocrat in 2020.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2016 • 11:59:45pm

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Both The Prisoner and Star Trek turned 50 this month. My dad would be 102 years old (his birthday was the 7th). I think he’d be surprised that both shows, which we watched together on the TV, are still fondly remembered — Star Trek perhaps more so than The Prisoner.

I started watching original Star Treks on Netflix. It is fun noting all the firsts: the first guy in a red shirt to beam down with Kirk and get killed, the first time Enterprise fires its phasers and photon torpedoes, the first “He’s dead, Jim!”, etc…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:09:10am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

<blockquote>I started watching original Star Treks on Netflix. It is fun noting all the firsts: the first guy in a red shirt to beam down with Kirk and get killed, the first time Enterprise fires its phasers and photon torpedoes, the first “He’s dead, Jim!”, etc…

First episode, first act. Follows the Salt Monster outside and dies of instant hyponatremia.

Until I saw the episode again recently I didn’t realize he was a Red Shirt.

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austin_blue  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:30:51am

re: #174 coin operated

You’ll excuse me if I call bullshit. I’ll find the link shortly, but commenter Major Kong (GOS and I think Gin & Tacos) has spoken with authority about the first hour of a NorK conflict. Even a first strike from South Korea and her allies won’t take out the (estimated) 70K artillery tubes loaded and pointed at Seoul. NorK has stated, in the clearest terms possible, that they are first strike weapons, and the initial casualty estimates start at mid-6 figures in the first 60 minutes of the conflict.

First, let’s look at the ground:

google.com

Even if the NorKs placed all of their artillery around Amsil (the closest point to Seoul, which is a river delta) that would be incredibly stupid because the ROK counter-battery fire, which is light years better than anything the NorKs have, would completely destroy them within 15 minutes, and the damage to Seoul would be be minimal.

So let’s assume that the NorKs aren’t complete idiots and have placed their medium-range artillery, which would not be able to hit anything but the northern edges of Seoul and would be quickly destroyed, farther back from the border and plan on bringing those guns forward as part of a broader attack.

Now we are talking about their long range howitzer, the Koksan, a 170 MM self-propelled gun with a range of 36 miles. Take a look at the map again. Those guns can fire at a rate of 1-2 rounds per five minutes and carry a total of 12 rounds. It is an open gun, with no armor.

en.wikipedia.org

It is unknown how many of these weapons they have, but what is known is that they are unwieldy and vulnerable to modern weapon systems. The ROKs have smart pigs (JSOW’s) in their inventories and over 400 aircraft that the NorKs can’t touch in air-to-air combat.

Their 70,000 artillery pieces are fundamentally useless on a modern battlefield with the ROK. They lack the technology to control a battle space. The majority of their guns cannot be brought into a viable range without being quickly destroyed, and when their longer range guns are used, they will be targeted by an overwhelming, and largely untouchable air force.

Sorry, but bullshit backatcha.

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Anymouse  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:56:36am

re: #31 Skip Intro

Every time I’ve watched her it seems that she takes an awful lot of time to say not so much.

Maybe it’s just me.

I like Rachel Maddow’s explanations of positions. Not everyone is fully-informed of a position. The argument “she takes an awful lot of time to say not so much” is sort of like the Washington Post’s complaint about Hillary Clinton a couple days ago spending “too much time on details.”
re: #64 MsJ

It’s not. My husband hates watching her. Her circuitous routes to get to any point drives him batty.

My wife dislikes Dr. Maddow for the same reason. I prefer hearing a point backed with the evidence to support it.

re: #106 austin_blue

Seoul has a population of 10 million people. Conventional weapons can damage Seoul, but cannot destroy it in any tactical time-frame.

Ask the people of Aleppo about that, which Gary Johnson hasn’t heard of. Seoul is only 30 miles or so from the border. They can be hit with everything from rockets and aircraft to artillery and infantry.

re: #163 majii

You do you. Forget the conservative haters from your school.

My own high school class does not invite me to reunions (because I am a liberal, not because of my melanin content, or in my case lack thereof). I don’t care to go to reunions anyway, since they pretty much all hated me when I was in high school because I was poor and had a single mother (never mind warfare in Vietnam caused that).

I presume you are a little older than me: I went to a segregated (white) school in K and first grade, before my mother said “hell no” and moved our family to her hometown in Michigan to get away from Jim Crow Maryland. (My father, then deployed to The Philippines, fully agreed with that decision.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:59:49am

re: #188 Anymouse

I like Rachel Maddow’s explanations of positions. Not everyone is fully-informed of a position. The argument “she takes an awful lot of time to say not so much” is sort of like the Washington Post’s complaint about Hillary Clinton a couple days ago spending “too much time on details.”

We want our political discourse boiled down to tweets and sound bytes. They leave no room for context, nuance or background.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:27:47am

Here’s one for the report

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CleverToad  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:40:44am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We want our political discourse boiled down to tweets and sound bytes. They leave no room for context, nuance or background.

Mixed feelings. I frequently like Maddow’s circuitous routes and the historical clips and context. She finds some interesting and relevant stuff in the archives, and it can be useful to point out that a lot of the current actors have been using this script for a very long time. But she does get repetitious sometimes, going over the same ground instead of providing additional context or content.

It’s seemed to me that she screws up the pace more often lately, but that may be because there are news stories I’d like to see covered in addition to the endless Trump show. I don’t know how much of the focus is directed by the upper management and how much is Maddow succumbing to the endemic horse race fever.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:41:44am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:44:49am

re: #191 CleverToad

Mixed feelings. I frequently like Maddow’s circuitous routes and the historical clips and context.

I don’t watch her enough to make a judgement, but in general, I only watch TV news to see video clips of dramatic events and otherwise try to get my information from written sources.

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Lancelot Link  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:13:43am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s 71% of the doctors who belong to a particular wingnut extremist organization.

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Anymouse  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:17:30am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t watch her enough to make a judgement, but in general, I only watch TV news to see video clips of dramatic events and otherwise try to get my information from written sources.

I don’t own a television (no cable service here, out of range of broadcast stations). I can only get what is available on the Internet through my s-l-o-w landline ADSL connexion from my phone company.

The local bar has a satellite TV; I suspect if Rachel Maddow came on the TV there half the patrons would explode in flames.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:51:32am

re: #194 Lancelot Link

That’s 71% of the doctors who belong to a particular wingnut extremist organization.

The only ones whose opinions count.

/

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:58:07am

electoral-vote.com got some power this morning

powell clearly advised clinton to use a private email server AND how to avoid FOIA AND to not get caught

johnson’s aleppo moment - while everyone knows that by now, note the reference to perry and how his one gaffe sunk him

Trump made nine statements in 24 minutes that would have basically disqualified anyone else from the presidency.

trumps suggestion implies a gross breach of ethics on the part of intelligence officials.

pence on putin - no way out of that one

formal complaint to the DOJ re bondi. now this surely wont go away

what an absolutely horrid election season

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Dave In Austin  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:03:56am

re: #197 dangerman

electoral-vote.com got some power this morning

powell clearly advised clinton to use a private email server AND how to avoid FOIA AND to not get caught

johnson’s aleppo moment - while everyone knows that by now, note the reference to perry and how his one gaffe sunk him

formal complaint to the DOJ re bondi. now this surely wont go away

Hope that they include Abbott in that complaint.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:18:35am

re: #198 Dave In Austin

Hope that they include Abbott in that complaint.

for every real charge filed against Trump, the media will invent two charges against HRC

that is their idea of Fair and Balanced Coverage

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Decatur Deb  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:26:24am

Need to vote early in North Carolina? Might be a 45 minute drive—if you have a car.

wgem.com

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:30:30am

Quoting a (male) friend from facebook:

When you eavesdrop on one woman counseling another about management of some male, and there’s no way to distinguish from the conversation whether the miscreant is 3 years old or 30.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:38:52am

re: #126 teleskiguy

Oh, Geraldo…so many words. Perhaps your “mea culpa” will change HC’s mind.

I learned Tuesday September 6th that after being enthusiastically received, because of my uninformed support of Mr. Ailes, and the relatively flattering portrayal of him in an early manuscript of my war memoir, “Geraldo of Arabia, From Tora Bora to Trump, ” as a direct result, HarperCollins has chosen not to publish.

I hope not.

Yeah, news is a dirty business…when you lie and find ways to damage the country that allows you to lie.

Fuck you, G.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:39:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:46:33am

re: #201 darthstar

Quoting a (male) friend from facebook:

When you eavesdrop on one woman counseling another about management of some male, and there’s no way to distinguish from the conversation whether the miscreant is 3 years old or 30.

This is one of my personal theories about why many women seem to fall for asshole men: it is their misdirected maternal instinct. After all, what are babies and toddlers but whiny egotists who demand all of your attention, throw tantrums, break things and then shit all over you?

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:48:03am

re: #75 JasonA

David Frum is on O’Donnell and looks like he in the middle of one hell of a bender.

It’s what happens when you’re a reasonably intelligent person and realize you’ve been a selfish jackass most of your life, as so many conservatives are discovering these days.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:51:41am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:53:06am

re: #206 darthstar

BREAKING: Mike Pence has no testicles.

Why does he refuse to show us his testicles? Is he hiding something? This raises a lot of unanswered questions that we are going to repeat even after they are answered…

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:53:37am

re: #123 Dave In Austin

Yeah. No matter what your political system the last thing you want on your borders ia a crazy person with nukes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:54:50am

re: #208 Romantic Heretic

Yeah. No matter what your political system the last thing you want on your borders as President and Commander in Chief is a crazy person with nukes.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:59:14am

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember that episode of Second City well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:02:18am

re: #210 Romantic Heretic

Remember that episode of Second City well.

“bring in the minicam!”

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:02:43am

re: #188 Anymouse

I love Maddow’s brain and her knowledge of details. It’s the redundancy of driving the same point home, over and over and over, before her main point is made. I wish more people did details and not just sound bites, but circuitous redundancy is maddening.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:04:21am

re: #212 MsJ

I love Maddow’s brain and her knowledge of details. It’s the redundancy of driving the same point home, over and over and over, before her main point is made. I wish more people did details and not just sound bites, but circuitous redundancy is maddening.

We get just the opposite with reporting on Hillary: the same non-facts and innuendos are repeated over and over until they are taken as Gospel Truth

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:04:52am

re: #206 darthstar

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:06:37am
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sagehen  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:09:50am

re: #192 Dave In Austin

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:16:23am

washington post “the hillary clinton email story is out of control”

“JUDGING BY the amount of time NBC’s Matt Lauer spent pressing Hillary Clinton on her emails during Wednesday’s national security presidential forum, one would think that her homebrew server was one of the most important issues facing the country this election. It is not. There are a thousand other substantive issues…”

“The story has vastly exceeded the boundaries of the facts.”

broken clock, or just had enough?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:17:48am

re: #216 sagehen

Bigots just can’t get over the Obamas: a couple that simply refuses to correspond to their bigoted notion of what “they” are supposed to be like…

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:19:45am
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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:21:40am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We get just the opposite with reporting on Hillary: the same non-facts and innuendos are repeated over and over until they are taken as Gospel Truth

It really saddens and angers me when lefties buy into the bullshit about Hillary. You’d think that 25 years of bullshit - at some point someone would ask themselves some kind of question about the legitimacy of those comments and stories. There is absolutely no critical thinking anymore.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:23:06am

re: #219 darthstar

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:24:44am

re: #220 MsJ

It really saddens and angers me when lefties buy into the bullshit about Hillary. You’d think that 25 years of bullshit - at some point someone would ask themselves some kind of question about the legitimacy of those comments and stories. There is absolutely no critical thinking anymore.

I get this crap in my mentions from butthurt Berniebros all the time. I ask why they are so uncritically accepting bullshit that originated with rightwing lunatics.

I still remember the epic freakout when Hillary said she wasn’t the kind of woman “who stayed at home and baked cookies” Everybody lost their goddamn minds and have not found them to this very day.

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:24:47am

re: #217 dangerman

washington post “the hillary clinton email story is out of control”

“JUDGING BY the amount of time NBC’s Matt Lauer spent pressing Hillary Clinton on her emails during Wednesday’s national security presidential forum, one would think that her homebrew server was one of the most important issues facing the country this election. It is not. There are a thousand other substantive issues…”

“The story has vastly exceeded the boundaries of the facts.”

broken clock, or just had enough?

Hard to say, WaPo has this op-ed on one side, while on the other was Chris Cillizza fellating Lauer for his “great” performance as moderator of the forum.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:25:09am

if i got this right, it looks like that investigation by david farenthold of trump foundation donations may be gaining a foothold

i didnt get the story on how he started with his original list

it would be one thing to call hundreds of charities and ask if they ever got any donations from the foundation

now the reporting is getting clearer - hes contacting the charities that the foundation claims it made donations to in its reporting on IRS forms 990

so its quite another when the foundation itself makes the claim under penalty of perjury and the charities dont confirm or in fact state they never received such a donation

this is not a small thing

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:25:25am
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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:27:25am

re: #219 darthstar

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:30:23am

re: #225 darthstar

Facebook removed human editors. (wpo.st ) Now it is telling me 9/11 was caused by bombs, not planes.

Please, it is not telling us anything: it is just providing a platform for people who would tell us things…

and anybody who relies on FB postings as a news source deserves whatever they get.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:31:38am

More like suggestions, or hints, really…

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jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:32:04am

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Good morning!

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:33:05am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Please, it is not telling us anything: it is just providing a platform for people who would tell us things…

and anybody who relies on FB postings as a news source deserves whatever they get.

It’s just funny that their algorithm is pulling fake news stories for trending topics and putting them to the top when you mouseover…Megyn Kelly outed from Fox as “traitor”…heh.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:33:35am

re: #229 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Where’s the truck?

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:33:40am

re: #229 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

from the truck on the corner?

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:34:07am

re: #231 darthstar

Where’s the truck?

five whole seconds….

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:36:21am
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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:37:27am

re: #233 dangerman

five whole seconds….

I move faster because I’m naked.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:38:56am

re: #235 darthstar

I move faster because I’m naked.

umm, er, ah, hmmmm,

what is aleppo?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:39:04am

re: #230 darthstar

It’s just funny that their algorithm is pulling fake news stories for trending topics and putting them to the top when you mouseover…Megyn Kelly outed from Fox as “traitor”…heh.

It just played so well into the narrative when they were accused of “stifling” right-wing stories and promoting left-wing ones.

IT’s a frigging social networking site, not the Ministry of Truth!!!

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:39:05am

re: #234 darthstar

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:40:12am
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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:40:52am

re: #234 darthstar

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Sounds more to me like they’re trying to come up with excuses for why the iPhone 7’s sales won’t be that impressive when people decide to wait for the iPhone 8 (or whatever they call it next year) with all the fancy tech they had to cut from this year’s release due to time constraints.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:41:35am

re: #236 dangerman

umm, er, ah, hmmmm,

what is aleppo?

:) - Okay, I’m not parading around…just lying in bed with my wife, two cats and a dog sleeping nearby. I’m an early riser (though that term has lost some meaning in the last twenty years or so)…

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:43:12am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It just played so well into the narrative when they were accused of “stifling” right-wing stories and promoting left-wing ones.

IT’s a frigging social networking site, not the Ministry of Truth!!!

In another two years social media will be the official media. Easier and less expensive to manipulate.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:45:36am

re: #240 Targetpractice

Sounds more to me like they’re trying to come up with excuses for why the iPhone 7’s sales won’t be that impressive when people decide to wait for the iPhone 8 (or whatever they call it next year) with all the fancy tech they had to cut from this year’s release due to time constraints.

They could have gone with a . or - release 6S.2 or 6S-b…but they do have a base of users who will spend $1,000/year on product regardless of whether they need it or not, so they have to keep that base engaged.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:46:17am

re: #242 darthstar

In another two years social media will be the official media. Easier and less expensive to manipulate.

Just finished reading Super Scary True Love Story by Gary Shteyngart. He pretty much describes life in America after Trump is elected…and that is about how he portrays things…

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:50:31am

re: #241 darthstar

:) - Okay, I’m not parading around…just lying in bed with my wife, two cats and a dog sleeping nearby. I’m an early riser (though that term has lost some meaning in the last twenty years or so)…

still… just lying in bed with my wife…I’m an early riser erm, ah, oh, uh

on a less unserious note - when first i moved my business and started working out of my house, i was on the phone with a client. he said “do you roll out of bed and go to work in your underwear?”

i said “at this moment even less than that”

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:51:44am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just finished reading Super Scary True Love Story by Gary Shteyngart. He pretty much describes life in America after Trump is elected…and that is about how he portrays things…

Orwell covered it in 1948. Granted, it was futuristic fiction for him and he was off by a couple of decades, but two way television is basically here. I don’t know how many of my IT colleagues have post-it notes over the cameras on their laptops. I keep meaning to do the same, but I’m looking for a small black sticker so I don’t look so paranoid. Meantime, big brother could be activating my camera to look at my jowels.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:54:35am

re: #246 darthstar

Orwell covered it in 1948. Granted, it was futuristic fiction for him and he was off by a couple of decades, but two way television is basically here. I don’t know how many of my IT colleagues have post-it notes over the cameras on their laptops. I keep meaning to do the same, but I’m looking for a small black sticker so I don’t look so paranoid. Meantime, big brother could be activating my camera to look at my jowels.

Black electrical tape. Every home needs a roll or two.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:55:05am

re: #245 dangerman

i said “at this moment even less than that”

It’s definitely a perk you don’t get if you work in retail.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:55:57am

re: #247 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Black electrical tape. Every home needs a roll or two.

(slaps forehead, heads to garage…yes, still naked)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:56:18am

re: #247 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Black electrical tape. Every home needs a roll or two.

especially homes with small children…

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makeitstop  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:56:22am

re: #245 dangerman

still… just lying in bed with my wife…I’m an early riser erm, ah, oh, uh

on a less unserious note - when first i moved my business and started working out of my house, i was on the phone with a client. he said “do you roll out of bed and go to work in your underwear?”

i said “at this moment even less than that”

I work from home, too. The running joke around here is if a cat gets in my way on the way from the bedroom to my office it’s considered a traffic jam.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:57:12am

re: #236 dangerman

umm, er, ah, hmmmm,

what is aleppo?

“Shakespeare for 500 Alex”

“The rump fed runion refused to share her chestnuts with Macbeth’s witch. Her husband was on his way to this place in a ship named The Tiger”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:57:49am

My biggest issue with working from home is that I have a hard-and-fast fashion rule: I will not leave the house in jogging trousers unless I am really going out for a workout.

I once jogged back and forth to the bottle bank just to avoid changing…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:59:07am

re: #249 darthstar

(slaps forehead, heads to garage…yes, still naked)

Make sure the garage door is closed, for the neighbors’ sakes.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:59:57am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:00:35am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

especially homes with small children…

Duct tape works better. ////

Seriously, there have been reports of teachers and day care workers duct-taping rowdy kids to chairs — shortly before those teachers and workers get fired.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:01:05am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

especially homes with small children…

and cats

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:04:18am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, where summer is holding on with another hazy, hot, and humid day ahead. On the plus sign, saw a rainbow on the commute, as there’s some spotty showers about.

While the media is hand wringing over its Clinton email coverage and AP finally deleted that false and misleading tweet about Clinton’s email two weeks after anyone with a functioning neuron would have noted that it was false and misleading and wholly unsupported by the underlying article, watch for the right wing to complain that this is the media circling the wagons around Clinton.

They’ll point out that the Benghazi families are trying to get a default judgment against Clinton - though it’s only two of them, and Ambassador Stevens’ family holds no such animus against Clinton.

Meanwhile, Trump continues to make headlines for saying stupid stuff, or for favorably looking on Putin as compared to Obama. In any other election - in any other generation - this would not only be called out by the GOP (it’s their candidate Trump after all), but the calls for him to quit the race would be at a fever pitch. Instead, you’ve got GOPers like Mike Pence doubling down and calling Putin out as a better leader than Obama.

This can’t get any more stark as to what Trump has done to the GOP and to the right wing generally - thanks to a pliant media overall, and to the right wing media outlets and howler monkeys who recite press releases as breaking news or rumors as fact or invent bs claims out of the aether and recite them as concrete and indisputable facts.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:04:58am

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

I get this crap in my mentions from butthurt Berniebros all the time. I ask why they are so uncritically accepting bullshit that originated with rightwing lunatics.

I still remember the epic freakout when Hillary said she wasn’t the kind of woman “who stayed at home and baked cookies” Everybody lost their goddamn minds and have not found them to this very day.

I know. I could not shake the feeling during that whole Lauer debacle that he really wanted to ask Hillary to make him a sammich because I couldn’t stop thinking about that baking cookies thing.

Then watching how he was with Trump just reinforced that some know-nothing, loud mouth bloviator who happens to be a guy is more worthy of respect than someone who has Hillary’s background.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:07:53am

Speaking of fake news, I just came to drop off this:

Finding it was a result of being annoyed by someone who otherwise has good tweets RT-ing a RWNJ who (naturally) linked to a RWNJ “news” source. That article in turn referenced abcnewsDOTcomDOTco, which is a known fake:

BBL

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:08:02am

re: #250 makeitstop

I work from home, too. The running joke around here is if a cat gets in my way on the way from the bedroom to my office it’s considered a traffic jam.

i get this a lot:

re: #255 goddamnedfrank

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putin doesnt have an opposition congress. or….opposition

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:09:22am

re: #261 dangerman

i get this a lot:

putin doesnt have an opposition congress. or….opposition

The opposition is in prison, in exile, or in the ground somewhere.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:10:42am

re: #258 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area…
This can’t get any more stark as to what Trump has done to the GOP and to the right wing generally - thanks to a pliant media overall, and to the right wing media outlets and howler monkeys who recite press releases as breaking news or rumors as fact or invent bs claims out of the aether and recite them as concrete and indisputable facts.

an excellent summary

i would add “thanks to somewhere between 25-40% who vote “R” no matter what”

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Great White Snark  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:11:10am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

It’s a sad state where the place to begin your news gathering is Snopes to find out what’s not true first.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:12:09am

re: #264 Great White Snark

It’s a sad state where the place to begin your news gathering is Snopes to find out what’s not true first.

QFT

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:12:57am

re: #259 MsJ

I know. I could not shake the feeling during that whole Lauer debacle that he really wanted to ask Hillary to make him a sammich because I couldn’t stop thinking about that baking cookies thing.

Then watching how he was with Trump just reinforced that some know-nothing, loud mouth bloviator who happens to be a guy is more worthy of respect than someone who has Hillary’s background.

women who watched it, saw it. consciously or subconsciously.

they know. and they go into the booth alone

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:14:28am

re: #264 Great White Snark

What gets me the most is that there’s plenty of injustice, oppression and persecution in the world, so there’s no need to go making any up. *sigh*

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:16:15am

re: #229 jeffreyw

YUM! Morning!

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:16:21am

re: #262 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The opposition is in prison, in exile, or in the ground somewhere.

right - so re: #255 goddamnedfrank

no one to look to or blame except him

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:18:13am

re: #267 CuriousLurker

What gets me the most is that there’s plenty of injustice, oppression, and persecution in the world, so there’s no need to go making any up. *sigh*

kind of people who ask the same question over and over rather than looking it up in the manual once and bookmarking it. cause its “faster to ask you”

(dont hate me)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:19:43am

re: #258 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, where summer is holding on with another hazy, hot, and humid day ahead. On the plus sign, saw a rainbow on the commute, as there’s some spotty showers about.

Ditto here in Frankfurt

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jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:21:12am

re: #235 darthstar

I move faster because I’m naked.

TMI

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:22:20am

This is pretty good…screenshot so I could get the series.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:23:36am

re: #272 jeffreyw

TMI

I’ve been saying this online for almost 20 years. I’m not about to stop now.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:24:33am

new york times

If the moderators of the coming debates do not figure out a better way to get the candidates to speak accurately about their records and policies — especially Mr. Trump, who seems to feel he can skate by unchallenged with his own version of reality while Mrs. Clinton is grilled and entangled in the fine points of domestic and foreign policy — then they will have done the country a grave disservice.

i would change “seems to feel” to “is allowed to skate by unchallenged..”

otherwise, yeah, its “a debate disaster waiting to happen”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:25:02am

re: #273 darthstar

This is pretty good…screenshot so I could get the series.

Obama will wait until the eve of the election, then cancel it due to a “FEMA Emergency”, seize power and declare himself President-for-Life. Hillary will join his harem.

/

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:26:26am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Obama will wait until the eve of the election, then cancel it due to a “FEMA Emergency”, seize power and declare himself President-for-Life. Hillary will join his harem.

/

I’d be okay with that, except for the Harem part. This isn’t Utah.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:26:31am

re: #273 darthstar

…peacefully transfer power….

and (not likely but possibly) to a different party

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:30:10am

re: #277 darthstar

I’d be okay with that, except for the Harem part. This isn’t Utah.

All White Women will be part of his harem and all White Men part of his slave workforce.

/

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Great White Snark  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:35:18am

re: #267 CuriousLurker

What gets me the most is that there’s plenty of injustice, oppression and persecution in the world, so there’s no need to go making any up. *sigh*

And North Korea coverage this morning. Ugh. Heard one “expert” on CBS radio news that the US has not been enforcing existing sanctions, namely against Chinese firms that deal with the DPRK nuclear program. Another say it’s all about China.

Local news. Every segment begins with a teaser about the blast. So for the umpteenth time I hear the words “Another North Korean Nuclear test” leading me to say “wow that THREE just this morning!”

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:35:32am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

Speaking of fake news, I just came to drop off this:

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P.S. About that black atheist mayor, Lawana Jones, who persecuted the poor praying firefighter? Here’s her photo. From the actual mayor’s bio:

Lawrence is a member of First Baptist Church of DeQuincy where he currently serves as a deacon and trustee, and in recent years has served as a chairman and member on pastor search committees and the personnel committee.

dequincy.org

These idiot wingnuts will believe any damned thing if it confirms their biases and they think they can use it to their benefit.

Yet you’re supposed to worry about Muslims practicing taqiyyah (as defined by Islamophobes). *smh*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:39:42am

re: #281 CuriousLurker

These idiot wingnuts will believe any damned thing if it confirms their biases and they think they can use it to their benefit.

And then the discussion will be taken up at some point by the MSM and discussed in a matter-of-fact manner, as it “raises questions”…

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:39:53am

Just saw this on Youtube. LOLed.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:40:32am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And then the discussion will be taken up at some point by the MSM and discussed in a matter-of-fact manner, as it “raises questions”…

Exactly. Gah. ಠ_ಠ

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:41:43am

re: #283 Alyosha

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Just saw this on Youtube. LOLed.

Not true. Greg Abbott also got a payoff from Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:42:15am

Whose chances? Putin’s?

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iossarian  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:43:27am

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

Not true. Greg Abbott also got a payoff from Trump.

Republicans! First they ruin your country, then they ruin your jokes.

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:46:18am

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

Not true. Greg Abbott also got a payoff from Trump.

He got more. You could argue that Trump’s corruption is sexist. That’s how fucking terrible he is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:48:18am

re: #288 Alyosha

He got more. You could argue that Trump’s corruption is sexist. That’s how fucking terrible he is.

It was pointed out that Abbot got $35K while Bondi only got $25K…in other words, only 71 cents on the dollar compared to a man…

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:52:59am

Can I also just add how much I detest Joe Scarborough? That man is a rotten blighter. The old saw about a dangerous man being one with a little knowledge? He can rattle off positions and dates and has a fortified pontification subroutine running superhot but he really is the close-pinned end of a rotting flesh-balloon spitting noxious toilet gas. What a dick.

Mika is okay.

That’s all.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:54:33am

Think we need Charles to add the Leo toast to the classic gifs for the meme generator.

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makeitstop  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:55:06am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

Are Trump and Putin in cahoots?

That question’s been asked and answered as far as I’m concerned.

My question is ‘what kind of yoooge deal did Trump cut for himself in return for selling out the country?’

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 9, 2016 • 6:57:15am

re: #292 makeitstop

That question’s been asked and answered as far as I’m concerned.

My question is ‘what kind of yoooge deal did Trump cut for himself in return for selling out the country?’

I think it’s less that Trump cut a deal, and more that some shady Russians have his nuts in a vice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:00:05am

re: #281 CuriousLurker

P.S. About that black atheist mayor, Lawana Jones, who persecuted the poor praying firefighter? Here’s her photo. From the actual mayor’s bio:

These idiot wingnuts will believe any damned thing if it confirms their biases and they think they can use it to their benefit.

Yet you’re supposed to worry about Muslims practicing taqiyyah (as defined by Islamophobes). *smh*

The confirmation bias industry is the worst. Here’s a quote taken out of context, let’s be outraged by it. I saw an anti-Muslim friend fuming at Sarah Silverman for saying that we shouldn’t judge all Muslims as being terrorists just like we can’t attack all white males for being serial killers. Now, to be fair, Sarah did stupidly say that all white males were serial killers but it was pretty obvious that she meant that a dis-proportionally high amount of serial killers are white males and no one bats an eye about scapegoating them the way they do Muslims. Wingnuts need their outrage. They probably are fuming today because another African-American athlete did not stand for the national anthem.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:00:44am

re: #292 makeitstop

That question’s been asked and answered as far as I’m concerned.

My question is ‘what kind of yoooge deal did Trump cut for himself in return for selling out the country?’

Maybe Putin offered him a new wife. He’s going to be trading in Melania soon I reckon.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:01:04am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

I could make a fortune on the grievance industry. /

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:02:11am

Is 15 years “too soon”?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:02:32am

re: #296 lawhawk

I could make a fortune on the grievance industry. /

My Dad and I both have friends like this. You know the type LH, loves to bitch about how minorities need to stop complaining but won’t shut the fuck up about how it’s just awful that we spend their tax money on things like welfare.

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makeitstop  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:03:52am

re: #293 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I think it’s less that Trump cut a deal, and more that some shady Russians have his nuts in a vice.

I tend to agree. And his great deal is he’ll get to skate on owing a bigass pile of money to Russian kneecappers.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:04:06am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

Coming soon, Veteran’s Day sales. Memorial Day sales. Oh wait.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:04:22am
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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:04:33am

re: #143 BeachDem

Jesus Keerist on a Triscuit:

Nigel Farage…is in talks with the Russian government owned RT news network to a be roving reporter covering Donald Trump’s presidential campaign this fall.

talkingpointsmemo.com

But that Larry King/RT interview was just a misunderstanding/mistake. Yeah right.

For such a self proclaimed “smart guy” Trump sure does make an incredible number of mistakes. If he was a Dem his campaign would be over. As a Republican it just means that he isn’t a politician, and that’s good.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:05:50am

The irony though? Well not really irony if you actually know what wingnut ideology is all about is that for all their insisting that we’ve become a nation of complainers, it’s the wingnuts that are the biggest complainers of all. Oh, someone has an accent I don’t like. Oh, a woman thinks she should be treated as an equal and not as a sex object. Oh, we want to candidly talk about racism in our past and present so I’m going to cry about how my ancestors whom I never knew got a bad deal too to tell people who whom are either still discriminated against today or whom the discrimination of years past has effected them in the present should shut up about their legitimate grievances.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:06:15am

re: #234 darthstar

Actually, you shouldn’t early adopt Android products.

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:08:06am

So should I watch another MSNBC clip where Mika patiently demurs on a position upon which she clearly has a major Krakatau-type opinion brewing, in which I beseech her pleadingly to throw me into the caldera so that I might aid in birthing a righteous ‘you and your precious GOP can fuck right off!’.

Or…

Have another brandy and carry on?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:08:15am

re: #302 Skip Intro

For such a self proclaimed “smart guy” Trump sure does make an incredible number of mistakes. If he was a Dem his campaign would be over. As a Republican it just means that he isn’t a politician, and that’s good.

Yep, the not a “career politician” gets Trump a pass whereas if he were a Democrat doing this shit, he’d be called unqualified. Meanwhile Obama got mocked as a mere community organizer even though he had been in office for a while before 2008. Trump? He’s never been elected to any political office before and his whole campaign revolves around the bullshit lie that he’s a great businessman and a supporter of the every man even though he’s a terrible businessman and a pampered brat who equated his dating exploits to what men fighting in Vietnam went through.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:10:03am

re: #302 Skip Intro

For such a self proclaimed “smart guy” Trump sure does make an incredible number of mistakes. If he was a Dem his campaign would be over. As a Republican it just means that he isn’t a politician, and that’s good.

that should be the disqualifier - forget the dem/rep stuff

almost daily he proves he sucks at what he says hes so great at

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:11:33am

MOAR SMOTI BEING THE SMOTI (Water is wet, bears crap in the woods, Pope is Catholic, etc.)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:12:46am

re: #304 GlutenFreeJesus

We got a cultist here!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:12:58am

SMOTI has a challenger for his title==>

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:13:03am

re: #307 dangerman

that should be the disqualifier - forget the dem/rep stuff

almost daily he proves he sucks at what he says hes so great at

He was only good at one thing. Being fertilized and being born into a wealthy family. Saw that Nugent without any irony the other day said Trump was the candidate of the people who make something of themselves and Clinton of the blood suckers (his words not mine). Anyhow, it just occurs to me that by and large especially in Presidential elections, Dem candidates have been people like Clinton and Obama who have risen from the Middle Classes while GOP candidates have either been people like Trump/Romney/the Bushes or even McCain who came from a well connected military family. The last GOP nominee who was probably from a background that most Americans could honestly relate with was Dole and before that Reagan.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:13:30am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

It’s not too soon, but it is incredibly tacky and disrespectful.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:13:45am

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI has a challenger for his title==>

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And this guy wants to be the next mayor of New York. Try wiping your own ass first, buddy.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:14:32am

re: #290 Alyosha

Remember, there was dead intern found in his office.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:18:18am

I’m disappointed to see the race tighten up though. Okay, so you don’t like Clinton. Look at FUCKING Trump. Clinton’s big scandal is that she did something her predecessors did with emails and Benghazi? You mean that that consulate attack that the last GOP nominee was eager to imply that the President sympathized with the attackers over and the fact that the GOP itself voted to cut down embassy and consulate security spending as well as the fact that embassy and consulate attacks are in fact down in the Obama years. Honestly, Trump should lose in a landslide. Alf Landon, George McGovern, Walter Mondale, and even Barry Goldwater were better nominees than this guy and yet because we have so many fucked up bigots in this country, Trump’s going to get at least 40% of the vote and I wager at least 150 EVs.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:18:51am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

Is 15 years “too soon”?

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I wish it were possible to satirize the over-the-top nostalgia, the unending news coverage, and the false patriotism that goes along with the whole Never Forget idea, without coming across like an uncaring asshole.

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jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:19:47am

re: #304 GlutenFreeJesus

Actually, you shouldn’t early adopt Android products.

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Android is making cars now? I’m going to wait for the iCar, I think.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:20:06am

re: #316 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I wish it were possible to satirize the over-the-top nostalgia, the unending news coverage, and the false patriotism that goes along with the whole Never Forget idea, without coming across like an uncaring asshole.

I do know what you mean by that.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:21:31am

re: #304 GlutenFreeJesus

Actually, you shouldn’t early adopt Android products.

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I’ll be early-adopting the shit out of the Pixel if Google is going to give me a standard Android interface without a bunch of crap shoehorned into it.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:21:54am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

He was only good at one thing. Being fertilized and being born into a wealthy family. Saw that Nugent without any irony the other day said Trump was the candidate of the people who make something of themselves and Clinton of the blood suckers (his words not mine). Anyhow, it just occurs to me that by and large especially in Presidential elections, Dem candidates have been people like Clinton and Obama who have risen from the Middle Classes while GOP candidates have either been people like Trump/Romney/the Bushes or even McCain who came from a well connected military family. The last GOP nominee who was probably from a background that most Americans could honestly relate with was Dole and before that Reagan.

further though, republicans haven’t won a presidential election without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket since 1928.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:23:26am

re: #320 dangerman

further though, republicans haven’t won a presidential election without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket since 1928.

Yeah, that’s true. That’s an amazing bit of trivia that constantly amazes me. I think the streak continues this year too.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:25:18am

Presented without comment:

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:27:25am

re: #316 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I wish it were possible to satirize the over-the-top nostalgia, the unending news coverage, and the false patriotism that goes along with the whole Never Forget idea, without coming across like an uncaring asshole.

We used to laugh at tragedy (I still remember the “red button” jokes from the Challenger explosion). Then certain people decided we should be serious and somber. These are the same people that attempt to use the military as a shield against any criticism. Yes, I do view both of these as real attempts at reducing our freedoms.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:29:01am

re: #322 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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The guy who worried about gay people at space colonies is calling someone mentally impaired. Okay, Louie.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:29:57am

re: #322 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Projection, everybody!!

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:30:53am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:31:14am

re: #323 Belafon

We used to laugh at tragedy (I easily remember the “red button” jokes from the Challenger explosion). Then certain people decided we should be serious and somber. These are the same people that attempt to use the military as a shield against any criticism. Yes, I do view both of these as real attempts at reducing our freedoms.

At a certain point, you just gotta move on. I get it a year or so after the tragedy and I definitely can see why someone would find that ad tacky. But you’re right about it being the same type of people who do use the military as a shield against criticism of everything. I respect our military but I’m tired of the military being used to tell people they can’t dissent ala the way Newton and the other football players are. Maybe I’m no veteran but I get the impression that part of the freedoms we have is the freedom NOT to stand if we should so choose.

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:31:23am

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:31:32am

re: #323 Belafon

We used to laugh at tragedy (I easily remember the “red button” jokes from the Challenger explosion). Then certain people decided we should be serious and somber. These are the same people that attempt to use the military as a shield against any criticism. Yes, I do view both of these as real attempts at reducing our freedoms.

I remember a joke I heard after the Columbia disaster (works for the Challenger too):

“Do you know what NASA stands for?”
“No, what?”
“Need another seven astronauts.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:31:46am

re: #326 lawhawk

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Jesus, the guy has no self awareness at all doesn’t he?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:32:23am

re: #329 Timothy Watson

Ouch.

But the Space Shuttle, was a bit of a mistake.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:32:56am

re: #329 Timothy Watson

I remember a joke I heard after the Columbia disaster (works for the Challenger too):

“Do you know what NASA stands for?”
“No, what?”
“Need another seven astronauts.”

Hell, I still remember my immediate reaction when I got to 3rd period history and CNN was on in 9/11. I thought it may have been a drunk pilot.

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bratwurst  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:36:52am
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makeitstop  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:37:30am

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

MOAR SMOTI BEING THE SMOTI (Water is wet, bears crap in the woods, Pope is Catholic, etc.)

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Not giving SMOTI the click. What was the supposed dog-whistle?

(Another case of DARVO here - taking something that Trump actually did and accusing Clinton of it.)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:38:47am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

I remember it too. Lived in Colorado, 6th Grade

When I got to class, I blurted out right at the beginning that a plane had flown into the WTC (School started at 7:10, and I heard about it on the radio. Station 99.9) The teacher told me to be quiet. About 30 minutes later, she recieved an email detailing what happened. Nothing else teaching wise happened that day.

My Home Room teacher didn’t allow us to see the footage live, (unlike every other class in the building), as he thought we were too fragile. As a result, I didn’t get to see the news footage of that day until 2010. Because of this, Katrina was the big event in my life that caused everything to pivot. It brought me to OU, and eventually, through that led me to Islam.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:39:14am

re: #333 bratwurst

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Critics seemed to like it. It’s too bad Eastwood comes off as a bitter, old bigot in his interviews because he’s honestly a talented director. In fact, I think he’s a better director than actor. More versatile in the former. In his acting, Clint always comes off as to use a cliche playing himself. He’s not bad but he doesn’t have the range of someone who I really appreciate like Al Pacino who can beautifully play Michael Corleone going from a reluctant son in a criminal family to someone more ruthless than his own father.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:41:05am

re: #334 makeitstop

Not giving SMOTI the click. What was the supposed dog-whistle?

(Another case of DARVO here - taking something that Trump actually did and accusing Clinton of it.)

That’s just SOP for Trump and his shills.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:43:06am

Democrats are not supporting a morally corrupt candidate, dumbass

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:44:21am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

Democrats are not supporting a morally corrupt candidate, dumbass

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A candidate whose charity is rated well, is rated as consistently telling the truth more often than not, etc. Yep she’s just awful. I won’t say Clinton is perfect but calling her corrupt is a joke.

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makeitstop  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:44:49am

re: #333 bratwurst

The first 45 minutes of “Sully” is about him trying to get to LaGuardia.

Good one.

For those who don’t know, LGA is undergoing massive construction, and as a result they’ve taken away pretty much all of the public parking.

A friend who works there said that there have been a couple of instances of people abandoning their cars on the access road to the terminal in order to catch a flight.

Total mess. Lucky for me, I’m flying out of JFK next time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:45:12am

What did CNN report about Trump that got him all butthurt? I thought CNN was in the tank for Cheeto Hitler.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:47:08am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

What did CNN report about Trump that got him all butthurt? I thought CNN was in the tank for Cheeto Hitler.

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Seriously if Clinton bitched the way Trump does, she’d be called whiny and told that the Presidency is no place for whiners but Trump does it and his legion of supporters love him for it. Trump’s nothing but a whiny little pissant.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:47:35am

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI has a challenger for his title==>

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:47:36am

re: #335 Ziggy_TARDIS

I remember it too. Lived in Colorado, 6th Grade

When I got to class, I blurted out right at the beginning that a plane had flown into the WTC (School started at 7:10, and I heard about it on the radio. Station 99.9) The teacher told me to be quiet. About 30 minutes later, she recieved an email detailing what happened. Nothing else teaching wise happened that day.

My Home Room teacher didn’t allow us to see the footage live, (unlike every other class in the building), as he thought we were too fragile. As a result, I didn’t get to see the news footage of that day until 2010. Because of this, Katrina was the big event in my life that caused everything to pivot. It brought me to OU, and eventually, through that led me to Islam.

I was a freshman in high school. I remember, distinctly, coming out of gym class around noon for lunch and noticed that the staff was definitely on edge. The exit doors for the men’s locker room was right next to one of the school’s exit doors where the buses parked and there was a staff member there watching the doors.

After lunch, I was in one of the bathrooms and two students were saying someone had bombed the Pentagon. I dismissed it at the time because I figured it was bullshit.

In my next class, however, at the beginning of class the teacher sat down and explained that someone had flown airplanes into the World Trade Center. He didn’t mentioned that the towers had collapsed and I imagined at the time when he said “airplanes”, it was something like a Cessna and not commercial airliners.

It wasn’t until I got home that I found out the extent of the attacks. We had televisions in each of the classrooms, but no cable or over-the-air TV service, just “Channel One News” and that was always taped a day or two in advance IIRC.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:48:52am

No you dumbass, it’s the media LIKE YOU obsessing over the stupid emails that have made this race close.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:48:53am

re: #335 Ziggy_TARDIS

I remember it too. Lived in Colorado, 6th Grade

When I got to class, I blurted out right at the beginning that a plane had flown into the WTC (School started at 7:10, and I heard about it on the radio. Station 99.9) The teacher told me to be quiet. About 30 minutes later, she recieved an email detailing what happened. Nothing else teaching wise happened that day.

My Home Room teacher didn’t allow us to see the footage live, (unlike every other class in the building), as he thought we were too fragile. As a result, I didn’t get to see the news footage of that day until 2010. Because of this, Katrina was the big event in my life that caused everything to pivot. It brought me to OU, and eventually, through that led me to Islam.

It’s crazy to think that was fifteen years ago already. That was a very crazy year though for me. Kid brother was born, freshman year of high school, and my Godmother died. But yeah I was thinking drunk pilot. Had no idea another plane would hit or what would happen at the Pentagon or in the skies over Pennsylvania.

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:49:13am

Now it has the LGF watermark.
A repost.

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:49:37am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

Perhaps it’s this:

Conway: Trump believes Obama was born in U.S.

Conway is in denial of Drumpfskind’s birtherism.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:50:50am

re: #344 Timothy Watson

I was a freshman in high school. I remember, distinctly, coming out of gym class around noon for lunch and noticed that the staff was definitely on edge. The exit doors for the men’s locker room was right next to one of the school’s exit doors where the buses parked and there was a staff member there watching the doors.

After lunch, I was in one of the bathrooms and two students were saying someone had bombed the Pentagon. I dismissed it at the time because I figured it was bullshit.

In my next class, however, at the beginning of class the teacher sat down and explained that someone had flown airplanes into the World Trade Center. He didn’t mentioned that the towers had collapsed and I imagined at the time when he said “airplanes”, it was something like a Cessna and not commercial airliners.

It wasn’t until I got home that I found out the extent of the attacks. We had televisions in each of the classrooms, but no cable or over-the-air TV service, just “Channel One News” and that was always taped a day or two in advance IIRC.

They sent us home early that day. I was a freshman too. It was gosh only the second week of high school. And then the follpwing fall we had Muhammad and Malvo sniping everyone so we couldn’t go outside as much for gym, I got a little bit of dark humor from that since I hated and still do hate running.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:50:57am

Here it is:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:51:24am

re: #348 freetoken

Perhaps it’s this:

Conway: Trump believes Obama was born in U.S.

Conway is in denial of Drumpfskind’s birtherism.

Conway is a kook in her own right.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:52:14am

re: #350 The Vicious Babushka

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So that’s why he’s pissed off. Well deal with it Donald, you chose to be the birther king and your supporters loved you for it. Don’t be a little baby over the media accurately reporting about the things that drew your cultists to you.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:54:52am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

So that’s why he’s pissed off. Well deal with it Donald, you chose to be the birther king and your supporters loved you for it. Don’t be a little baby over the media accurately reporting about the things that drew your cultists to you.

He doesn’t want the media to even bring up the birther issue. Suck it up dickbag.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:55:28am

re: #348 freetoken

Perhaps it’s this:

Conway: Trump believes Obama was born in U.S.

Conway is in denial of Drumpfskind’s birtherism.

nope - if trump himself doenst say it, then it’s not true
or it is true
or its not

i can never remember whether stuff he himself says is supposed to be the truth, or what everyone around him says he meant to say is the truth

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:55:34am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

They sent us home early that day. I was a freshman too. It was gosh only the second week of high school. And then the follpwing fall we had Muhammad and Malvo sniping everyone so we couldn’t go outside as much for gym, I got a little bit of dark humor from that since I hated and still do hate running.

On 9/11, my older brother tried to come and pick me up from school but couldn’t because there were a half-dozen sheriff’s office cars outside the school parking lot and they weren’t letting anyone in.

I remember the D.C. sniper shootings too. After the first shooting outside Fredericksburg, VA, (and then the one in Ashland, VA, and the other one outside Fredericksburg, VA) they had us running to and from the buses every day and sheriff’s office cars parked on the shoulder of the roads. It didn’t help that the high school had wooded areas on almost every side.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:56:43am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Critics seemed to like it. It’s too bad Eastwood comes off as a bitter, old bigot in his interviews because he’s honestly a talented director. In fact, I think he’s a better director than actor. More versatile in the former. In his acting, Clint always comes off as to use a cliche playing himself. He’s not bad but he doesn’t have the range of someone who I really appreciate like Al Pacino who can beautifully play Michael Corleone going from a reluctant son in a criminal family to someone more ruthless than his own father.

Yeah I’m surprised at how good a director Eastwood is. Wouldn’t have imagined it given his acting roles, which were OK but didn’t typically offer much range.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:58:18am
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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:58:41am

re: #356 Sir John Barron

Yeah I’m surprised at how good a director Eastwood Ben Affleck is. Wouldn’t have imagined it given his acting roles, which were OK but didn’t typically offer much range.

I think there’s a pattern.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 7:59:39am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

He doesn’t want the media to even bring up the birther issue. Suck it up dickbag.

There you go again, quoting Donald’s one words. Nobody should do that. Even though he has the best words. Except those words he doesn’t want you to remember.

//

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:02:25am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

He doesn’t want the media to even bring up the birther issue. Suck it up dickbag.

hey don, they’ll probably stop - after you answer the question maybe a thousand times - you know, kinda like emails

though you havent answered it even once yourself

— imagine hillary saying to lauer the other night “i just dont want to talk about it any more” yeah right

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:03:23am

Simpsons did it!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:03:30am

re: #356 Sir John Barron

Yeah I’m surprised at how good a director Eastwood is. Wouldn’t have imagined it given his acting roles, which were OK but didn’t typically offer much range.

Yeah it is surprising. But yeah his acting I guess is a lot like John Wayne’s. It’s far from the worst but it just doesn’t have a ton of range to it. And if you like archetypes, I guess that’s fine but I prefer actors with range to them. That said, if I ever did a movie about my maternal grandfather, Clint could play my grandpa easily.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:05:26am

re: #358 Belafon

I think there’s a pattern.

? How do you mean? Honestly, Clint surprises me. I haven’t seen Letters from Iwo Jima yet but Flags of Our Fathers was actually pretty critical of how we treat our returning military. I.E. the hero treatment and then ignore them when they have problems like Ira Hayes encountering racism due to being Native American and his troubles with alcoholism.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:07:46am

re: #354 dangerman

nope - if trump himself doenst say it, then it’s not true
or it is true
or its not

i can never remember whether stuff he himself says is supposed to be the truth, or what everyone around him says he meant to say is the truth

1. Whatever Trump says is The Truth
2. If Trump says something that contradicts something he has previously said, he did not say that Previous Thing.
3. If someone else repeats A Thing that Trump has previously said, he did not say That Thing.
4. If Trump says something that is demonstrably untrue, whoever demonstrates That Thing is not a True Thing, is a Loser, Low-Rated & Sad!

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:08:34am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

Ben’s acting range isn’t anywhere near someone like, say, Matt Damon, but the movies he’s directed have been pretty good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:09:32am
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lockjawcanbefun  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:10:02am
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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:11:35am

Uuuuuugh, I dread the 9/11 anniversary. Yet again, we have to dig it all back up and relive the pain, horror & rage. Every. Single. Year. I’m sure Von ClownStick’s participation will guarantee this year will be extra special. ಠ_ಠ

So no TV on Sunday (rarely watch it anyway), no social media, and maybe no going online period, not even to come to LGF.

I love you guys, but I’m not up to reliving the tragedy again—the original event + reliving it for 14 years in a row and dealing with the fallout has been more than enough for me, thank you very much.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:11:45am

re: #365 Belafon

Ben’s acting range isn’t anywhere near someone like, say, Matt Damon, but the movies he’s directed have been pretty good.

Ahhhh yeah, agree about Affleck. Better director than actor i.e. Argo and The Town. Affleck’s not a bad writer either.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:12:41am

re: #367 lockjawcanbefun

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Yeah let’s get lectured by Kirk Cameron some more. Thanks Value Voters Summit, how I’ve missed being lectured by a bunch of sexually repressed evangelicals who think they’re the only ones with moral values in this country.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:13:55am

Because of course they would.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:14:49am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

1. Whatever Trump says is The Truth
2. If Trump says something that contradicts something he has previously said, he did not say that Previous Thing.
3. If someone else repeats A Thing that Trump has previously said, he did not say That Thing.
4. If Trump says something that is demonstrably untrue, whoever demonstrates That Thing is not a True Thing, is a Loser, Low-Rated & Sad!

Thanks for straightening me out

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:15:44am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

Ahhhh yeah, agree about Affleck. Better director than actor i.e. Argo and The Town. Affleck’s not a bad writer either.

I enjoyed Argo but that final scene with the Revolutionary Guard chasing a 747 down the runway was risible. The jet wash would blow their vehicles into a big pile, not slowly roll to a stop as the plane takes off.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:17:17am

*facepalm*

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:17:26am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

I enjoyed Argo but that final scene with the Revolutionary Guard chasing a 747 down the runway was risible. The jet wash would blow their vehicles into a big pile, not slowly roll to a stop as the plane takes off.

What were they gonna do anyway?

Pull in front of the jet to stop it?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:18:11am

re: #371 lawhawk

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Because of course they would.

I bet he had no idea who she was until it was announced she died.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:18:30am

re: #374 lawhawk

*facepalm*

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And trump —still a viable candidate!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:19:12am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

I enjoyed Argo but that final scene with the Revolutionary Guard chasing a 747 down the runway was risible. The jet wash would blow their vehicles into a big pile, not slowly roll to a stop as the plane takes off.

True. Better movie than Pearl Harbor though which he acted in. Trying to think of other actors who have gone behind the camera. I guess Ron Howard would count. I think Howard’s a good, solid director. Not a great but he usually makes interesting movies.

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:19:34am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

I bet he had no idea who she was until it was announced she died.

She might be related to that Albert Epo guy

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:19:40am

re: #374 lawhawk

*facepalm*

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Hopefully this slows down the momentum he had.

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:20:57am

Hadn’t seen this.
It’s GOHMERT! talking about Clinton’s concussion as if it constitutes some sort of impairment. The clip is an unfunny ‘bit’.
The points at which he rests and waits for audience approval attests to his abject disingenuousness on the subject.
The proposition that his audience ought to pray for her is used as a weapon. Utterly unChristian.
Inhuman, more like.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:22:18am

re: #381 Alyosha

Hadn’t seen this.
It’s GOHMERT! talking about Clinton’s concussion as if it constitutes some sort of impairment. The clip is an unfunny ‘bit’.
The points at which he rests and waits for audience approval attests to his abject disingenuousness on the subject.
The proposition that his audience ought to pray for her is used as a weapon. Utterly unChristian.
Inhuman, more like.

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Pray for her aka Evangelical talk for talk about being nice and Christian in public towards someone while telling God to damn them in private.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:22:55am

I loved Gone Girl.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:22:56am

Interesting read

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:23:20am

re: #383 Stanley Sea

I loved Gone Girl.

Still need to see that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:24:52am

re: #383 Stanley Sea

I loved Gone Girl.

Zedushka was so freaked out by that movie, especially the scene where

Rosamund Pike stabs Neil Patrick-Harris to death while they are having sex.


I read the book so I wasn’t surprised.

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allegro  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:25:57am

There is some ethereal definition of Christian that I have only seen in actual practice a very few times. Today the term is primarily used as a cover for unconscionable attitudes and acts.

Just gonna leave that there.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:26:05am

So, this happened…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:27:34am

re: #386 The Vicious Babushka

Zedushka was so freaked out by that movie, especially the scene where

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I read the book so I wasn’t surprised.

It was a TRIP.

HW you must see it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:27:39am

re: #388 Jenner7

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So, this happened…

So, Mike, how do Putin’s balls taste in your mouth? By the way, Putin is a “stronger” leader than Obama because he’s a dictator but you’d know that because you’re the running mate of the guy who wants to be the American Putin.

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:27:55am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

Passive-aggressive bullshite.
Mean-spirited attacks cloaked in a veil of self-righteousness. The conservative movement in a nutshell and the tell of every hypocrite who ever had to tread an honest mile.
Despicable.

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:28:02am

Remember Nils-Axel Mörner, the guy who has believed in dowsing? Years ago when there were still climate change deniers here I brought him up as an example of the foolishness in the denier camp.

Well, guess what, the deniers are still pushing him:

CO2 is ‘not causing climate change’, scientists insist

Geologist and geophysicist Nils-Axel Mörner claims the Earth is cooling rather than warming.

It’s just another gathering of the same old crowd of deniers being pushed by a half-assed “news” website.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:28:41am

re: #389 Stanley Sea

It was a TRIP.

HW you must see it.

Yeah I know. There’s so many movies I need to see still. I finally saw No Country For Old Men the other day.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:29:01am

re: #391 Alyosha

Passive-aggressive bullshite.
Mean-spirited attacks cloaked in a veil of self-righteousness. The conservative movement in a nutshell and the tell of every hypocrite who ever had to tread an honest mile.
Despicable.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:29:57am

re: #392 freetoken

Remember Nils-Axel Mörner, the guy who has believed in dowsing? Years ago when there were still climate change deniers here I brought him up as an example of the foolishness in the denier camp.

Well, guess what, the deniers are still pushing him:

CO2 is ‘not causing climate change’, scientists insist

It’s just another gathering of the same old crowd of deniers being pushed by a half-assed “news” website.

Hottest July on record here in NOVA and in al ot of other places. But hey snow in February ergo Al Bore lies.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:33:51am

re: #392 freetoken

Remember Nils-Axel Mörner, the guy who has believed in dowsing? Years ago when there were still climate change deniers here I brought him up as an example of the foolishness in the denier camp.

Well, guess what, the deniers are still pushing him:

CO2 is ‘not causing climate change’, scientists insist

It’s just another gathering of the same old crowd of deniers being pushed by a half-assed “news” website.

So the deniers are resorting to outright woowoo now? I’m not surprised, really.

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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:33:55am

GOHMERT!

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:35:13am

re: #387 allegro

Not a believer, myself. But since I was raised Christian - fell into and out of faith - even as an apostate, I try and hold others to their ideals.
They satisfy the definition of Christian, most likely, they fall down as human beings.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:36:16am

re: #309 Ziggy_TARDIS

We got a cultist here!

Nah. Just someone who doesn’t like my phones exploding. ;)

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:37:02am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Hottest July on record here in NOVA and in al ot of other places. But hey snow in February ergo Al Bore lies.

Here in Sweden, we’re having August temps in September, and SMHI has let it slip that we might have drastic and violent temp drops further down the road.
*braces for impact*

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bratwurst  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:37:22am

You can check out the hashtag if your Friday is in need of a train wreck, but it is mostly stuff like this.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:38:04am

re: #400 Teukka

Here in Sweden, we’re having August temps in September, and SMHI has let it slip that we might have drastic and violent temp drops further down the road.
*braces for impact*

It gets hot here but we had a lot of days where it felt like 100 plus. A good reminder that I could never live in a place like Arizona.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:38:04am

re: #387 allegro

There is some ethereal definition of Christian that I have only seen in actual practice a very few times. Today the term is primarily used as a cover for unconscionable attitudes and acts.

Just gonna leave that there.

The term is subjective and inclusive enough so as to be practically meaningless, which is something our Founding Fathers recognized, but our modern society is losing sight of.

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:38:05am

re: #393 HappyWarrior

Yeah I know. There’s so many movies I need to see still. I finally saw No Country For Old Men the other day.

re: #393 HappyWarrior

Yeah I know. There’s so many movies I need to see still. I finally saw No Country For Old Men the other day.

Howfuckingamazingisthatmovieseriously?!

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:39:51am

Wait. Trump’s finally quit being a Birther? When did this happen?

Matthews had asked Giuliani to join vice presidential nominee Mike Pence and other Republicans in conceding the legitimacy of Obama’s native-born status. “Donald Trump believes now that [Obama] was born in the Unites States,” Giuliani replied, prompting Matthews to ask that the Trump camp clarify the matter further.

Giuliani alleged during the interview that it was the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008 that first sought to introduce doubt over the location of Obama’s birth. Matthews protested that no proof of that claim exists.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:40:15am

re: #401 bratwurst

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Uh dumb question but how do you boycott Hillary? She’s a person and unlike Trump, she’s not a name brand. Really, if players choosing to kneel during the national anthem bothers you more than the fact that there are people in the NFL who are wife beaters and criminals. then you need to re-evaluate your fucking priorities and get your big boy pants on. You’re free to boycott but as far I’m concerned, you look like an uptight right wing loser who loves a man who repeatedly bashes our country in his stump speeches but can’t stand black men being critical about societal problems.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:40:54am

re: #404 Alyosha

Howfuckingamazingisthatmovieseriously?!

Amazing and I caught Hail, Ceasar later that night. So it was a double Coen day for this guy.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:41:05am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

It gets hot here but we had a lot of days where it felt like 100 plus. A good reminder that I could never live in a place like Arizona.

Here it’s 25 C/77 F during the day, the usual is at least 10 centigrades lower. Oh, did I mention the RH%?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:41:07am

re: #317 jeffreyw

Android is making cars now? I’m going to wait for the iCar, I think.

Heh. Talking about this. :)

androidauthority.com

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:42:33am

re: #406 HappyWarrior

Uh dumb question but how do you boycott Hillary? She’s a person and unlike Trump, she’s not a name brand. Really, if players choosing to kneel during the national anthem bothers you more than the fact that there are people in the NFL who are wife beaters and criminals. then you need to re-evaluate your fucking priorities and get your big boy pants on. You’re free to boycott but as far I’m concerned, you look like an uptight right wing loser who loves a man who repeatedly bashes our country in his stump speeches but can’t stand black men being critical about societal problems.

I guess boycotting Hillary is like a pre-emptive going-Galt. If Hillary wins they’re gonna stop doing….something.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:44:16am

re: #410 Sir John Barron

I guess boycotting Hillary is like a pre-emptive going-Galt. If Hillary wins they’re gonna stop doing….something.

The GOP is going to boycott governing

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:44:17am

Re: 9/11

What’s interesting to me is how the perception of the attacks has changed and will continue to change over time. We are in the middle of a transitional period in which a generation of adults who either weren’t born or were too young to remember when the attacks happened are coming of age.

Someone born the same year as the attacks would be 15, almost 16 now.

And someone who is 18 would have barely been 3 years old on September 11, 2001.

Sure, thanks to youtube and digital technology anyone can relive the newscasts from that day but there’s a distinct difference between seeing an event from a historical perspective and having actually lived through it.

I can remember 9/11 vividly in my mind, the same way the generations that came before me could remember the Kennedy Assassination in theirs. I remember the sounds, the sights. I remember where I was, who I was with, how I felt.

The next generation of adults won’t have those memories, because they weren’t around then. Thus, their thoughts about the attack will not be based on firsthand experience, but rather from historical records and anecdotal accounts.

We have started to tell my 8 year old nephew more of the details about the attacks. He has seen the videos of the planes hitting the towers but he has not seen the Falling Man photo yet nor listened to the 911 calls from the planes nor does he really understand how many people actually died and how much damage was done that day.

In my case I took it upon myself to save newspapers and magazines from around that time, so when he’s ready I can show him and others the images and accounts right out of history.

So I suppose ultimately I’ve become more interested in the historical aspects of the events rather than than the political and religious aspects.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:44:23am

re: #410 Sir John Barron

I guess boycotting Hillary is like a pre-emptive going-Galt. If Hillary wins they’re gonna stop doing….something.

Heh I guess. Honestly, I’m tired of lectuers about patriotism by people whose ideology and party have embraced Trump. Maybe actually listen to people like Brandon Marshall but nah that would mean actually listening to someone other than the right wing echo chamber.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:44:36am

re: #411 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP is going to boycott governing

They’ve been doing that since 2009.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:44:42am

re: #410 Sir John Barron

They stopped having common sense a long time ago. Not sure what else there is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:44:49am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

It gets hot here but we had a lot of days where it felt like 100 plus. A good reminder that I could never live in a place like Arizona.

It’s a dry heat…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:45:33am

re: #414 HappyWarrior

They’ve been doing that since 2009.

At least they’re doing… something.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:45:52am

re: #416 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s a dry heat…

True, better than Florida’s humid heat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:47:13am

re: #403 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The term is subjective and inclusive enough so as to be practically meaningless, which is something our Founding Fathers recognized, but our modern society is losing sight of.

I know professed Christians who are the real deal. Selfless, generous, passionate, encouraging.

Then I know others who are hate filled bigots.

I judge people based on their actions, not their professed beliefs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:49:47am

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

I know professed Christians who are the real deal. Selfless, generous, passionate, encouraging.

Then I know others who are hate filled bigots.

I judge people based on their actions, not their professed beliefs.

exactly, the real ones don’t even go on about their Faith, they just live it quietly…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:51:49am

re: #405 lawhawk

Giuliani alleged during the interview that it was the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008 that first sought to introduce doubt over the location of Obama’s birth. Matthews protested that no proof of that claim exists.

Well, didn’t Hillary send a task force to Hawaii to investigate and promise to blow things wide open?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:52:02am

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

I know professed Christians who are the real deal. Selfless, generous, passionate, encouraging.

Then I know others who are hate filled bigots.

I judge people based on their actions, not their professed beliefs.

The total opposite of people like Kirk.

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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:56:07am

Your annual congressional 9/11 pander:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:56:49am

re: #386 The Vicious Babushka

Zedushka was so freaked out by that movie, especially the scene where

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I read the book so I wasn’t surprised.

Having read the book and seen the movie, I think the movie added a level of creepiness, because it looked like she was actually getting off on killing him, whereas in the book it was just cold calculation

Overall, I really liked the aspect of them BOTH being deeply, DEEPLY flawed people, with her just being deeply flawed AND a sociopath.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:57:20am

Is this a real story? The link looks iffy so I’m not clicking on it.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:58:15am

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

I know professed Christians who are the real deal. Selfless, generous, passionate, encouraging.

Then I know others who are hate filled bigots.

I judge people based on their actions, not their professed beliefs.

Yep, I’ve known Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, atheists, fellow Muslims, etc. who fall into both categories. I’ve never read his writings so I don’t know if this quote is actually his, but it definitely rings true:

“The only Zen you find on tops of mountains is the Zen you bring there.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 8:58:30am

re: #404 Alyosha

Howfuckingamazingisthatmovieseriously?!

It was amazing, but honest to god, it was one of the most depressing things I’ve ever seen.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:01:44am
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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:03:37am

The RWNJ fluffing of Vladimir Putin continues:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:03:38am

re: #420 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Too bad I can’t find the clip of a Monty Python Mr. Gumby proclaiming his faith consists of knocking two bricks together.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:03:45am

re: #423 Lidane

Your annual congressional 9/11 pander:

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I can’t help but wonder if that will open the door to people in other countries being allowed to sue the United States. I would assume that’s why the White House objected, but it seems most politicians are only interested in the short-term pander rather than the long-term (often unforeseen) consequences.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:04:43am

HAH

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:05:02am

re: #429 Lidane

The RWNJ fluffing of Vladimir Putin continues:

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They’d fluff Satan himself if they thought it would help them win an election.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:06:04am

re: #429 Lidane

The RWNJ fluffing of Vladimir Putin continues:

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Hugh, maybe Obama hasn’t been as effective as he could be because oh I don’t know, your party and ideology have been pushing this bullshit that he’s too stupid to know what’s good. And please do not act like you think POTUS is a good man, you’ve been happy to push the same lies about Barack Obama hating America that your friends have so just shut the fuck up.

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:06:41am

Global warning: ocean warming

Ocean warming may well turn out to be the greatest hidden challenge of our generation, writes Dan Laffoley, Marine Vice Chair of the World Commission on Protected Areas at IUCN, and one of the lead authors of a new IUCN report on ocean warming.

[…]

A new IUCN report, entitled Explaining ocean warming: causes, scale, effects and consequences, sets out the most recent and comprehensive review to date on this topic and shows a complex story of change in the ocean. This change is underway, often already locked in for many decades to come, and has already begun to impact people’s lives. This is no longer a single story of ocean warming challenges to coral reefs, but a rapidly growing list of alarming changes across species at ecosystem scales, and across geographies spanning the entire world. It is pervasive change, driven by ocean warming and other stressors already operating in ways we are only beginning to understand, where essential gaps in marine data, systems and capabilities are leaving the world poorly prepared to cope in the future.

[…]

Here’s the report. Section 1 lays out the background of global warming and the oceans. Yes, it’s long, but if you’re looking for a summary it may prove useful:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:07:06am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

HAH

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I’m fine with insulting the bigoted assholes that have joined Trump’s movement because they’re bigoted assholes who care more about limiting the rights of my friends and family than they do anything else.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:07:36am

re: #433 CuriousLurker

They’d fluff Satan himself if they thought it would help them win an election.

Sure, he’s the prince of darkness but he runs a tight ship. Has anyone escaped hell in five thousand years? //

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:08:25am

Ok, so google doesn’t like it because there is no preview. But the link is here.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:11:09am

Honestly if you truly think Obama is incompetent but ignore that the GOP Congress literally wanted him to fail more than succeed, you just may be a partisan hack. Sorry, you don’t get to belong to a party and movement that has pushed over 50 ACA repeals knowing full well that POTUS would never sign it and get to call POTUS incompetent. You just don’t.

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allegro  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:15:08am

After using tablets and my phone exclusively for some time I got a Chromebook. I keep poking at the screen and wondering why it won’t respond. File under “how to feel like an idiot” in a single swipe.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:16:27am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

What did CNN report about Trump that got him all butthurt? I thought CNN was in the tank for Cheeto Hitler.

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Donnie, shouldn’t you be studying instead of watching TV?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:16:56am
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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:17:43am

re: #427 Blind Frog Belly White

It was amazing, but honest to god, it was one of the most depressing things I’ve ever seen.

‘The dismal tide. The dismal tide.’

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allegro  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:17:48am

re: #441 Barefoot Grin

Donnie, shouldn’t you be studying instead of watching TV?

For him that is studying. Especially fiction TV.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:17:59am

re: #441 Barefoot Grin

Donnie, shouldn’t you be studying instead of watching TV?

Studying for what? He already graduated from the best schools, with the highest honors and best grades in all of human history! He is the bestly educated, let me tell you!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:18:53am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:19:56am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:20:48am

re: #447 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s comical how much this guy gets a pass for saying so much stupid bullshit.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:24:00am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Yeah let’s get lectured by Kirk Cameron some more. Thanks Value Voters Summit, how I’ve missed being lectured by a bunch of sexually repressed evangelicals who think they’re the only ones with moral values in this country.

Who are supporting an unethical. serial adulterer/liar who is a booze and gambling monger. Love them thar values!

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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:24:32am

re: #442 The Vicious Babushka

BREAKING: GM recalls 4 million vehicles worldwide for software defect linked to 1 death bit.ly

been in IT most of my adult life. not quite comfortable (yet) with vehicle and software in the same sentence

still prefer mechanical parts and simplicity of maintenance, diagnosis with simple tools. wish i still owned this:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:25:23am

re: #449 MsJ

Who are supporting an unethical. serial adulterer/liar who is a booze and gambling monger. Love them thar values!

Well they do have their values, it’s just that their values are disowning their gay family members, being dicks to their neighbors who aren’t their religion, and judging everyone around them without looking in the mirror. Values!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:27:53am

re: #449 MsJ

Who are supporting an unethical. serial adulterer/liar who is a booze and gambling monger. Love them thar values!

It really impressed me how he won over the hearts and minds of fundamentalist Christians

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:29:33am

re: #442 The Vicious Babushka

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If other industries had to live up to that level of scrutiny.

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Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:30:05am

I may have to re-read Cormac McCarthy’s ‘Blood Meridian’.
I’d love to see that film rendered.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:30:12am

re: #446 The Vicious Babushka

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So, he’s treating them the way Republicans really want to treat immigrants.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:30:42am

re: #453 Belafon

If other industries had to live up to that level of scrutiny.

If Presidential candidates who are not Hillary Clinton had to live up to that level of scrutiny…

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:31:00am

re: #450 dangerman

been in IT most of my adult life. not quite comfortable (yet) with vehicle and software in the same sentence

still prefer mechanical parts and simplicity of maintenance, diagnosis with simple tools. wish i still owned this:

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Simple Tools

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:31:12am

re: #425 The Vicious Babushka

Is this a real story? The link looks iffy so I’m not clicking on it.

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That’s the exact same “survey” I got in the mail a few days ago.
It came with a return postage-paid envelope…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:31:52am

LOL what exactly “begins” It’s the same parade of bullshit that’s been ongoing for years.

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jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:32:12am

re: #409 GlutenFreeJesus

Yeah, just funnin’ ya. You left me an opening I could not resist.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:32:29am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

LOL what exactly “begins” It’s the same parade of bullshit that’s been ongoing for years.

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Hahahaha I can’t even be upset about this. Thanks SMOTI. You live up to your name every day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:33:08am

“National Enquirer” has been running bullshit stories with Photoshops of Hillary & Michelle Obama’s heads on the bodies of fat people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:34:11am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

It Begins… Hillary’s Health Concerns Make Top Story in National Enquirer

Now it is clear, she contacted that virus from the aliens who impregnated her…

(she claims the baby was “adopted”, but we know better)

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:35:04am

Here is the NE story SMOTI was so excited about. It’s their usual lame bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:37:33am

I mean you just can’t make this shit up. A tabloid owned and run by not only a Trump ally but a personal friend of his and SMOTI thinks it’s the scoop of the century. Man.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:37:35am

re: #425 The Vicious Babushka

Is this a real story? The link looks iffy so I’m not clicking on it.

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ScamAnalyze says they’re ok. scamanalyze.com

The comments at ScamAnalyze hate the site…they basically say it’s a shrill Hill shill site.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:38:31am

I bet SMOTI thinks the Batboy is all grown up now and living somewhere in Wisconsin.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:39:26am

re: #450 dangerman

been in IT most of my adult life. not quite comfortable (yet) with vehicle and software in the same sentence

still prefer mechanical parts and simplicity of maintenance, diagnosis with simple tools. wish i still owned this:

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I suppose we could do without airbags (what the story is about).

I’m curious what kind of mileage and emissions that gets.

As a person who does software, I don’t mind it ending up in a number of places (especially with the testing that goes on in automotive software). I won’t get home locks that are remotely accessible, not because I’m worried about them mysteriously unlocking themselves, but because software security cannot prevent hacking, it can only delay it hopefully longer than someone has the patience.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:39:52am

re: #466 MsJ

ScamAnalyze says they’re ok. scamanalyze.com

The comments at ScamAnalyze hate the site…they basically say it’s a shrill Hill shill site.

Well AddictingInfo and BiPartisanReport are liberal news sites but I don’t click on those either because their ads are full of malware.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:40:09am

re: #467 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet SMOTI thinks the Batboy is all grown up now and living somewhere in Wisconsin.

Batboy is advising Trump obviously.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:40:32am

re: #440 allegro

After using tablets and my phone exclusively for some time I got a Chromebook. I keep poking at the screen and wondering why it won’t respond. File under “how to feel like an idiot” in a single swipe.

Swiping likely won’t work either. ///

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:40:38am

re: #470 HappyWarrior

Batboy is advising Trump obviously.

Trump IS Batboy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:41:16am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:42:06am

re: #470 HappyWarrior

Batboy is advising Trump obviously.

Now if we could only get Batman to advise Clinton…

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allegro  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:42:41am

re: #472 The Vicious Babushka

Trump IS Batboy.

I thought Ben Shapiro was Batboy. Guess I was confused by the resemblance.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:43:33am

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s the exact same “survey” I got in the mail a few days ago.
It came with a return postage-paid envelope…

You sent it back, right? Let them pay for that postage.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:43:38am

re: #472 The Vicious Babushka

Trump IS Batboy.

Nah Batboy would be closer to Milo’s age than Trumps but maybe Batboy ages differently.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:43:49am

re: #473 The Vicious Babushka

Clinton: For a rich guy he sure does have small hands…

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Frankie Five Angels  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:44:52am

Rush Limbaugh is quoting the Hillary “health story” on his show right now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:45:21am

re: #479 Frankie Five Angels

Rush Limbaugh is quoting the Hillary “health story” on his show right now.

As fat and out of shape as that asshole is? Good grief.

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Anymouse  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:45:41am

re: #452 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It really impressed me how he won over the hearts and minds of fundamentalist Christians

Because they are not interested in religion, they are interested in political power.

Ever since the brigade of Jerry Falwell, they have been interested in seizing power in the name of religion.

Where are the cadres of Christians calling them out on this? The huge number of Christians proclaiming that it is a political philosophy and not a religious one? (It’s Okay if You’re a Republican and Christian, but not a Muslim.)

Christian Dominionists want a theocratic government every bit as much as ISIS does, and Christian churches do not call them out on it. They are (as far as I am concerned) fifth columnists for a theocratic state, virtually every Christian denomination.

If they do not stand up to fascism and dominionism, then they are tacit supporters. That is every last Christian denomination.

Tell me of one who opposes Trump and the dominionists. Name one that has made a public statement denouncing subverting the government in the name of Christianity. I’ll wait.

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:46:52am

re: #323 Belafon

We used to laugh at tragedy (I still remember the “red button” jokes from the Challenger explosion). Then certain people decided we should be serious and somber. These are the same people that attempt to use the military as a shield against any criticism. Yes, I do view both of these as real attempts at reducing our freedoms.

It took less than 4 hours for the Chernobyl jokes to start (“what has feathers and glows in the dark? Chicken Kiev.”)

483
makeitstop  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:47:32am

re: #470 HappyWarrior

Batboy is advising Trump obviously.

Lewandowski is Batboy with a little cosmetic surgery. Everybody knows that.

484
jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:47:48am

re: #454 Alyosha

I may have to re-read Cormac McCarthy’s ‘Blood Meridian’.
I’d love to see that film rendered.

Several years ago the Humble Bundle folks had Blood Meridian as part of an audio book offering - pay what you want for the bundle and proceeds go to charity. It is narrated by Richard Poe and I have listened to it several times. He has the perfect voice for it. I liked it so much I downloaded it again in the Audible format during one of their sales. I highly recommend it.

485
Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:48:18am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

LOL what exactly “begins” It’s the same parade of bullshit that’s been ongoing for years.

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WOW! It begins! Wow!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:48:59am

re: #481 Anymouse

Because they are not interested in religion, they are interested in political power.

Ever since the brigade of Jerry Falwell, they have been interested in seizing power in the name of religion.

And they remember how Ronald Reagan paid them lip service and then threw them under the bus as soon as Nancy’s White House astrologer told her the time was right.

Since then they have been insinuating their people into all areas of government and society, including education and public administration, and have already become a force that no conservative politician dare toy with again.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:49:35am

re: #452 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It really impressed me how he won over the hearts and minds of fundamentalist Christians

Just exposes them for the frauds they are, not that we needed more data on that question.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:50:40am

re: #450 dangerman

been in IT most of my adult life. not quite comfortable (yet) with vehicle and software in the same sentence

still prefer mechanical parts and simplicity of maintenance, diagnosis with simple tools. wish i still owned this:

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Wow, that looks a little like my ‘71 slant-six Valiant (which I sold for $100 in 1988).

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:50:45am

re: #481 Anymouse

Because they are not interested in religion, they are interested in political power.

Ever since the brigade of Jerry Falwell, they have been interested in seizing power in the name of religion.

Where are the cadres of Christians calling them out on this? The huge number of Christians proclaiming that it is a political philosophy and not a religious one? (It’s Okay if You’re a Republican and Christian, but not a Muslim.)

Christian Dominionists want a theocratic government every bit as much as ISIS does, and Christian churches do not call them out on it. They are (as far as I am concerned) fifth columnists for a theocratic state, virtually every Christian denomination.

If they do not stand up to fascism and dominionism, then they are tacit supporters. That is every last Christian denomination.

Tell me of one who opposes Trump and the dominionists. Name one that has made a public statement denouncing subverting the government in the name of Christianity. I’ll wait.

I would imagine that Unitarian Universalists have said something about it.

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jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:51:59am

re: #467 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet SMOTI thinks the Batboy is all grown up now and living somewhere in Wisconsin.

He got a ear reduction and became Governor of Florida. True fact!

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allegro  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:53:32am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

I would imagine that Unitarian Universalists have said something about it.

I may be wrong but I don’t think UU is a Christian denomination.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 9:54:13am

re: #473 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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No. Donny. You’re not my type.

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Anymouse  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:00:28am

re: #486 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And they remember how Ronald Reagan paid them lip service and then threw them under the bus as soon as Nancy’s White House astrologer told her the time was right.

Since then they have been insinuating their people into all areas of government and society, including education and public administration, and have already become a force that no conservative politician dare toy with again.

And the so-called moderate churches (Lutherans, Methodists, &c) stand by and do not denounce fascism in the name of their putative religion.

All churches are interested in first and foremost money. No collection plate, no church. Every last one of them are hypocrites, whether it is some big conservative megachurch or the corner church in a small town.

In the Bible, as recounted in the New Testament, Jesus spoke truth to power, both in faith and in politics. According to the story, he died for that position.

Today’s churches are uninterested in anything but money or power or both.

As has been demonstrated the Johnson Amendment has no teeth. There is no reason so-called moderate churches (fifth columnists) can’t call out evil when they see it. except to guard their money.

It is up to liberals (including atheists) to show that so-called moderate churches like the Methodists or Unitarians have no clothes.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:01:52am

re: #491 allegro

I may be wrong but I don’t think UU is a Christian denomination.

You may well be right; they’re not Trinitarian, but UU members I’ve known in the past certainly acted more Christian than some other “Christians” I’ve met.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:02:07am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:03:16am

re: #495 FormerDirtDart

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CHEMTRAILS, BABY!!!!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:04:11am

re: #495 FormerDirtDart

Facebook removed human editors. Now it is telling me 9/11 was caused by bombs, not planes.

again, Jessica, FB is not telling you anything. It is simply serving as a platform for some other idiots to tell you nonsense.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:05:13am

re: #497 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, Jessica, FB is not telling you anything. It is simply serving as a platform for some other idiots to tell you nonsense.

Yes but by promoting in such a way, FB is also legitimizing it.

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allegro  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:05:44am

re: #494 Dr Lizardo

You may well be right; they’re not Trinitarian, but UU members I’ve known in the past certainly acted more Christian than some other “Christians” I’ve met.

The atheists I’ve known act more Christian than most Christians I’ve met.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:06:04am

Meanwhile, I worked in the yard last weekend, discovered my back yard was mostly poison ivy. So I’ve spent all week scratching. Have applied a couple of lotions with varying degrees of relief. A week later I’m still scratching. Wondering when it goes away.

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Anymouse  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:06:54am

re: #494 Dr Lizardo

You may well be right; they’re not Trinitarian, but UU members I’ve known in the past certainly acted more Christian than some other “Christians” I’ve met.

The UU Church has taken no position on the election; like all the other feckless denominations they are fine whether a liberal or a fascist takes power.

They are as useless as every other denomination. Allegedly, religion speaks truth to power. The UU Church is no different than any other church: First and foremost they “don’t want to upset their parishioners” (with the truth, read keep the collection plate full to keep the lights on).

502
Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:07:56am
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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:08:08am

re: #488 Barefoot Grin

Wow, that looks a little like my ‘71 slant-six Valiant (which I sold for $100 in 1988).

the pic was a 62 chevy II nova i took off google
mine was a 67.
i am sad for it but it had no a/c

504
Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:12:02am

re: #343 MsJ

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I don’t think they let him in. He looks like a sleazy time shares salesman to me.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:14:25am

re: #504 Skip Intro

I don’t think they let him in. He looks like a sleazy time shares salesman to me.

Or a social media consultant that’s going to help them monetize their online brand.

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Anymouse  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:14:33am

As far as feckless goes:

The Christian Identity church up the road from me is clear on what it believes. They are rabidly anti-Semite, pro-Nazi, hate democratic governance, &c. They proudly stand for what they believe, even if I think it is a load of horseshit.

Other denominations? Silent. No word on whether they care if the Fascist Talking Yam is elected or not. Magic balance fairy; Clinton and Trump are exactly the same.

At least the Christian Identity folk have the courage of their convictions. Every Christian denomination around here is craven (that would be Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist, UU, Mennonite, and Greek Orthodox). Real standard bearers of Jesus there. Glad I am an atheist. At least I know where I stand with the Christian Identity church’s opinion of me.

The rest of them wouldn’t lift a finger if this atheist liberal were injured or killed. At least the CI church would cheer.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:15:16am

re: #503 dangerman

the pic was a 62 chevy II nova i took off google
mine was a 67.
i am sad for it but it had no a/c

Mine didn’t either. It was a pretty spare space under the hood, though. That’s what reminded me. (I was pretty useless beyond changing oil.)

508
Alyosha  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:15:35am

re: #484 jeffreyw

If it sounds anything like this, I might have to look it up.

Godspeed You Black Emperor - The Dead Flag Blues

The car is on fire, and there’s no driver at the wheel
And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
And a dark wind blows

The government is corrupt
And we’re on so many drugs
With the radio on and the curtains drawn

We’re trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
And the machine is bleeding to death

The sun has fallen down
And the billboards are all leering
And the flags are all dead at the top of their poles

It went like this:

The buildings tumbled in on themselves
Mothers clutching babies
Picked through the rubble
And pulled out their hair

The skyline was beautiful on fire
All twisted metal stretching upwards
Everything washed in a thin orange haze

I said, “Kiss me, you’re beautiful -
These are truly the last days”

You grabbed my hand
And we fell into it
Like a daydream
Or a fever

We woke up one morning and fell a little further down
For sure it’s the valley of death

I open up my wallet
And it’s full of blood

509
Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:16:21am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

What did CNN report about Trump that got him all butthurt? I thought CNN was in the tank for Cheeto Hitler.

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I think they pointed out that he was lying about not supporting the Iraq war.

510
piratedan  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:16:54am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

well then, consider them insulted…

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:17:58am

re: #506 Anymouse

As far as feckless goes:

The Christian Identity church up the road from me is clear on what it believes. They are rabidly anti-Semite, pro-Nazi, hate democratic governance, &c. They proudly stand for what they believe, even if I think it is a load of horseshit.

Other denominations? Silent. No word on whether they care if the Fascist Talking Yam is elected or not. Magic balance fairy; Clinton and Trump are exactly the same.

At least the Christian Identity folk have the courage of their convictions. Every Christian denomination around here is craven (that would be Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist, UU, Mennonite, and Greek Orthodox). Real standard bearers of Jesus there. Glad I am an atheist. At least I know where I stand with the Christian Identity church’s opinion of me.

The rest of them wouldn’t lift a finger if this atheist liberal were injured or killed. At least the CI church would cheer.

Mmmmm, Greek Orthodox food.

And atheist songs:

Steve Martin - Atheists Don’t Have No Songs (Live on Letterman 03-16-2011) [HD]

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:18:06am

re: #509 Skip Intro

I think they pointed out that he was lying about not supporting the Iraq war.

Actually they were grilling Kellyanne about his birtherism.

513
lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:19:04am

re: #500 Sir John Barron

Meanwhile, I worked in the yard last weekend, discovered my back yard was mostly poison ivy. So I’ve spent all week scratching. Have applied a couple of lotions with varying degrees of relief. A week later I’m still scratching. Wondering when it goes away.

About week to 10 days later. Wash your sheets/covers and towels in hot water to get the oils off since that can persist. And if you’re out working, you can use either Tecmu or dish detergent like Dawn to wash off after possible exposure. It’s the equivalent to a chemical burn, so it’ll take some time before healing.

514
Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:22:51am

re: #513 lawhawk

About week to 10 days later. Wash your sheets/covers and towels in hot water to get the oils off since that can persist. And if you’re out working, you can use either Tecmu or dish detergent like Dawn to wash off after possible exposure. It’s the equivalent to a chemical burn, so it’ll take some time before healing.

Thanks. Gotta make sure the bedsheets and towels get in the laundry this weekend today.

515
jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:24:05am

re: #508 Alyosha

Here is the opening:

YouTube

516
wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:24:34am

re: #513 lawhawk

About week to 10 days later. Wash your sheets/covers and towels in hot water to get the oils off since that can persist. And if you’re out working, you can use either Tecmu or dish detergent like Dawn to wash off after possible exposure. It’s the equivalent to a chemical burn, so it’ll take some time before healing.

My youngest uncle got a bad case in 1972. His mom, my gramma, got to cut his hair, which she’d been wanting to do since it passed his collar. It came down to the bottom of his shoulder blades. He cried.

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Anymouse  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:25:39am

Well, it’s 11:30 in mythical Mountain Time Zone. It is way past my bedtime, so I guess it is time for me to have a daycap drink and hit the rack.

I’ll follow you all for a few more minutes (and you’ll be lucky devils if I don’t comment again).

Day three of Felix Randomkitty on insulin: he is starting to get testy about getting injections.

As for me, the VA just called and scheduled an appointment for elbow surgery to relieve pain that has disabled me since it suddenly attacked last year when I was in Poland. I go under the knife in Cheyenne on September 28.

(I haven’t been able to play my hammered dulcimer in a year, which has been really depressing in addition to the constant pain.)

518
lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:28:45am

re: #516 wrenchwench

A few years back, I got a really bad case - courtesy of helping folks clear out weeds and came across poison oak (I am familiar with poison ivy, but not the oak variety). Same outcome. Massive rashes on my legs and arms. I went thru the topical ointments w/refills in 2-3 days. Doc then gave me oral steroids and it helped resolve in about 10 days.

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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:28:46am
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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:30:23am

(sources):

Thanks GOP. You keep proving the fact that you’ve gone completely off the rails and that your so called credibility on foreign policy is a fraud.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:31:47am

re: #518 lawhawk

A few years back, I got a really bad case - courtesy of helping folks clear out weeds and came across poison oak (I am familiar with poison ivy, but not the oak variety). Same outcome. Massive rashes on my legs and arms. I went thru the topical ointments w/refills in 2-3 days. Doc then gave me oral steroids and it helped resolve in about 10 days.

I figured there was some personal experience behind your knowledgeable post.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:34:40am

As far as my denominatio goes, political activity varies by church. My particular church is itself not politically active and our Pastor has made it clear he won’t talk politics in the pulpit.

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:36:40am

re: #500 Sir John Barron

Same thing happened to me about a month ago, mowing in the country. It does take about 10-14 days to clear. It apparently helps to wash exposed skin with detergent to break up the urushiol oil immediately after exposure.

That green stuff the visiting coyote is walking on (looking for dropped persimmons) is about half and half grass and poison ivy.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:39:02am

re: #523 jaunte

Same thing happened to me about a month ago, mowing in the country. It does take about 10-14 days to clear. It apparently helps to wash exposed skin with detergent to break up the urushiol oil immediately after exposure.

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That green stuff the visiting coyote is walking on (looking for dropped persimmons) is about half and half grass and poison ivy.

Coyotes are so slanky.

525
allegro  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:40:26am

re: #522 Eclectic Cyborg

As far as my denominatio goes, political activity varies by church. My particular church is itself not politically active and our Pastor has made it clear he won’t talk politics in the pulpit.

One would think Christian leadership would at least want to protect the brand. It has taken a real bad hit since the 80s.

526
allegro  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:41:55am

re: #523 jaunte

Same thing happened to me about a month ago, mowing in the country. It does take about 10-14 days to clear. It apparently helps to wash exposed skin with detergent to break up the urushiol oil immediately after exposure.

[Embedded content]

That green stuff the visiting coyote is walking on (looking for dropped persimmons) is about half and half grass and poison ivy.

I still carry a small bottle of Dawn in my truck at all times. It has saved me a world of hurt on many occasions.

527
Eventual Carrion  Sep 9, 2016 • 10:50:52am

My penis looks huge in Donald’s hands.!

528
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 11:01:34am

I saw this this morning in Josh Marshall’s Twitter feed.

She talks about what she sees when she looks at HRC’s face, which is so often called ‘cold, walled off, calculating’. As the son of a woman who was told by her boss that ‘of course’ she was paid less than a less experienced male coworker with a similar job description, because ‘he has a family to raise’, I can relate.

It’s really amazing how far women have come just in my lifetime, and Clinton actually suffers for that, because she came up at a time when women had to be so careful, to thread the needle between being too feminine and thus not taken seriously, and not feminine enough, and thus written off as a ‘bull dyke’.

I have to admit, I find myself terribly disappointed with the Millennial women who just don’t get it, who take for granted that they can be WOMEN and still be taken seriously in school or in the work world, who have options their mothers and grandmothers never did, BECAUSE their mothers and grandmothers learned to be disciplined like Hillary is in order to get anywhere.

On this, I always hark back to ‘Mad Men’, because although it FOCUSED on Don Draper, womanizer, it was really ABOUT women and how the 1960s changed everything for them. There’s one scene I’ll always remember - the episode had focused on 3 women: Joan, the brilliant Office Manage who kept the place running, but was largely seen as just a pair of boobs; Dr. Faye Miller, the Psychologist who was hired to do marketing surveys; and Peggy Olson, who was hired as a secretary but whose talent led to her becoming first a copy writer, and then a big wheel in Creative.

All three highly capable, driven women. Joan and Faye, of an earlier generation, had to choose among limited options. Joan chose to use her looks, to sleep with the boss, while being incredibly competent, knowing she’d never be taken seriously, all the while looking for The Man to marry and leave the professional world - which she ultimately did and found unsatisfying. Faye chose to be coldly professional, to remain unmarried and avoid any suggestion of sleeping her way up, leaving her ultimately with only her profession.

Peggy, part of a younger generation, was able to forge her own path in ways the other two could not.

As they get in the elevator, the two older women look resigned. Peggy looks tired but happy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 11:02:42am

Oh, fuck. Posted on a dead thread.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2016 • 11:06:27am

re: #498 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes but by promoting in such a way, FB is also legitimizing it.

FB is a social networking site. The only news I get from it involves where my friends are hanging out and what they are doing for fun. And anybody who relies on as a source of news deserves all the disinformation they have heaped on them.

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geosherman  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:30:15pm

re: #514 Sir John Barron

do not forget to wash the clothes and gloves you were wearing as well as the tools! There is an oil that causes the irritation - urushiol. I always wash in cold water (dawn or tecnu) after encountering the stuff. Cold showers and even hot showers can bring some relief. If it is unbearable a doctor could prescribe prednasone….
Sorry!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:17:01pm

re: #513 lawhawk

About week to 10 days later. Wash your sheets/covers and towels in hot water to get the oils off since that can persist. And if you’re out working, you can use either Tecmu or dish detergent like Dawn to wash off after possible exposure. It’s the equivalent to a chemical burn, so it’ll take some time before healing.

My brother and I had known exposure after taking a walk last week. We soaped and rinsed our legs and hands off *before* we got into the car to leave the site. And the clothes went into the wash that day when we got back home.

Have some minor itching on my knees, but no rash. So it looks like I dodged it for the most part.


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