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Remember when Donald Trump tried to position himself as a great friend of the LGBT community?

Well, here he is speaking to one of the most radical anti-gay hate groups in the US, Tony Perkins’ Family Research Council. It’s really not news any more when Trump reveals what a dishonest hypocrite he is, but this one’s as much in your face as he ever gets.

As I write this, Rudy Giuliani just said “we need a Declaration of Independence from political correctness,” because as we all know, conservatives are terrified to say any hateful thing that comes into their minds. (Yes, that’s sarcasm.)

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Jack Burton  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:36:20pm

Hey GOP…

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Tigger2  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:36:55pm

No Thanks, If you have seen one Trump rant you have seen them all. : )) I just get to pissed off when I watch him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:39:32pm
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blueraven  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:39:36pm

Jon Voight - Hillary Lies!! Trump is Sincere!

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:39:44pm

The sterling introduction of Jon Voight included his many nominations. That will be part of Trump’s introductions in the future: He was once a nominee.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:41:13pm

::barf::

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blueraven  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:41:32pm

Trump arrives to Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the USA. Of course.

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lockjawcanbefun  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:42:03pm

The Pander-O-Meter will go up to 11 for this.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:42:23pm

re: #6 Jenner7

::barf::

Why does he always speak at lunch time? Yeach.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:42:25pm

The only pivot Trump can do is from telepromter to teleprompter.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:42:55pm

Right wing misogyny:

She’s got to be tired.
She’s got to be sick.

We are sick and tired of the right wing BS operating at 110% capacity. It’s blown the bowel gaskets, and we’re getting a nonstop stream of excrement masquerading as news.

This is all Drudge does these days. Peddle opinion and wishful thinking/delusions about Clinton’s health, all while there’s plenty of signs that Trump’s mental health is suspect, his policies are seriously flawed, and the GOP nominee is actively flirting with Russia’s Putin, and the rest of the GOP seems more than willing to either excuse it, or has no problem with it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:43:10pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

The only pivot Trump can do is from telepromter to teleprompter.

Have an Internet for the day.

Sadly (or not, actually), errands call me away from this (not at all) riveting TV.

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petesh  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:44:01pm

Sounds like they are playing with a strange deck — all clubs and diamonds, no hearts or spades. I look forward to reading lowlights posted by anyone with fortitude enough to look.

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Jack Burton  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:45:27pm

I’m still waiting for an evangelical revolt against Trump. He’s not one of them and I’m sure they know it. Their hatred of brown people is overwhelming all other issues but how long will that last?

I figured if he was going to get some push back from people who have to mention Jesus more than 200 times in a 3 minute conversation, this is where it would happen.

Maybe they will quietly sit at home in November, or vote for Gary Johnson because they don’t give two shits where Aleppo is either.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:45:58pm
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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:48:14pm

ROFL:

Under the terms of the contract, a copy of which was included in a complaint that a liberal advocacy group filed Sept. 2 with the National Labor Relations Board, Trump Organization employees, independent contractors, and volunteers must “promise and agree not to assist or counsel, directly or indirectly, for compensation or as a volunteer, any person that is a candidate or exploring candidacy for President of the United States other than Mr. Trump.”

The agreement also directs campaign contractors to “prevent your employees from doing so.”

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:48:15pm

There’s a special place in hell for he who repeals the Johnson Amendment.

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b.d.  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:49:32pm

re: #11 lawhawk

So with 60 some days to go the GOP isn’t attacking her on her politics, just a made up health story?

I think they know they’re done.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:50:49pm

Reposting from downstairs:

I was just making a list of the names & Twitter handles of the members of Congress & Trump advisers who attended Brigitte Gabriel’s anti-Muslim hate-fest and this was in Ted Cruz’s timeline. I usually wouldn’t see his stuff because I have him blocked, but this was so over the top that it made me LOLOLOL—Von ClownStick is gonna have to start calling her Scary-Bat-Wielding-‘Puter-Murdering Hillary:

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:52:55pm
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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:53:16pm

Trump continuing the silliness of pretending that churches aren’t politically active.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:54:09pm

re: #14 Jack Burton

As Gohmert said in the last thread:

“I’d like to elect a godly man, but we don’t have that choice,” Gohmert was heard telling attendees before he took the stage at the Values Voters Summit, an annual event hosted by the socially conservative Family Research Council

Clinton is a Methodist who cites the influence of her religion on her work. None of the evangelicals want that, though. Finding out Democrats are religious would be bad for their bottom line.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:54:28pm

He said Democratic party. He’s not ONE OF THEM

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:56:01pm

Now we get to hear how these people love the African Americans.

Silent room.

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:56:23pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:57:25pm

re: #19 CuriousLurker

I dunno about you guys, but the woman portraying Hillary swinging that bat doesn’t seem very sick or frail to me… Which one is it—dangerous murderer or feeble old woman? It’s the same crap with POTUS, he’s both a jack-booted tyrant and an ineffectual, mommy jeans wearing sissy.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:57:38pm

“I say it with great respect….your community is awful….what do you have to lose?”

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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:58:34pm

re: #27 Jenner7

“I say it with great respect….your community is awful….what do you have to lose?”

He actually said that??

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:59:03pm

re: #28 CuriousLurker

Pretty much.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:59:46pm

re: #26 CuriousLurker

If she wasn’t dying of tuberculosis, brain damage, and Parkinson’s simultaneously, Hillary Clinton would just be flying around like Mothra, killing people with her screechy voice and energy blasts coming out of her whatever.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 12:59:53pm

re: #26 CuriousLurker

I dunno about you guys, but the woman portraying Hillary swinging that bat doesn’t seem very sick or frail to me… Which one is it—dangerous murder or feeble old woman? It’s the same crap with POTUS, he’s both a jack-booted tyrant and an ineffectual, mommy jeans wearing sissy.

Alter-egos (or meds). The cognitive dissonance is weapons grade derp strong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:00:51pm
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Tigger2  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:00:56pm

LOL

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:00:57pm

re: #28 CuriousLurker

He actually said that??

He said that about the African American community in a speech before a White audience.

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piratedan  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:01:12pm

re: #30 The Ghost of a Flea

but here’s the problem, those weapons are only effective against white christian conservatives….

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:03:00pm

I wonder if he’ll mention how good he’ll be for the LG…BT…Q community.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:04:21pm
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blueraven  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:04:31pm

Where are your taxes, Trump?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:04:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:04:54pm
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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:05:18pm

Why won’t Hillary write a list?!?!

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:06:58pm

Hillary is apparently responsible for the latest NK nuke test.

“NK was dying years ago, but Obama didn’t support people who would have took it the right way..”

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blueraven  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:08:37pm

What a rambling bunch of crazy. He has no message for evangelicals.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:08:48pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

“I got SIX African Americans to vote for me! Bet you only thought I would get five.”

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:09:01pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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Trump says he’ll get “more African American & Hispanic votes than anyone thought possible.”
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Well, maybe. I think it’s possible he gets 1% of the African American vote, and 15% of Hispanic votes. So I suppose he could get more than that.

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:10:25pm

re: #43 blueraven

What a rambling bunch of crazy. He has no message for evangelicals.

A Post-Christian, Post-Modern candidate?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:10:33pm

Such a putz

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:11:05pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:11:24pm

SYRIAN REFUGEEEES [not christian!!!]

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:12:52pm

This guy is a fucking moron.

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:12:52pm

“No Land War in Asia” MacArthur? That MacArthur?

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:13:20pm

re: #42 Jenner7

Hillary is apparently responsible for the latest NK nuke test.

“NK was dying years ago, but Obama didn’t support people who would have took it the right way..”

NK was dying years ago, and President Bush provided humanitarian aid to pass through to them during a famine. Because the people of the country shouldn’t suffer because the leader is a totalitarian thug…

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:13:43pm

“Don’t say what you’re for or against…because the enemy will know..”

Stupid motherfucker.

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:14:04pm
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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:14:33pm

re: #48 Jenner7

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bratwurst  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:14:59pm

Mentioning General Flynn in the same breath as MacArthur and Patton.

I am sure MacArthur and Patton would take a paycheck from the Kremlin like Flynn does.

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:15:07pm

BLEACH

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:15:16pm
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piratedan  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:15:32pm

re: #55 lawhawk

this guy isn’t a projector, he’s a fucking cineplex

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:16:09pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:17:43pm

re: #14 Jack Burton

I’m still waiting for an evangelical revolt against Trump. He’s not one of them and I’m sure they know it. Their hatred of brown people is overwhelming all other issues but how long will that last?

I figured if he was going to get some push back from people who have to mention Jesus more than 200 times in a 3 minute conversation, this is where it would happen.

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Maybe they will quietly sit at home in November, or vote for Gary Johnson because they don’t give two shits where Aleppo is either.

This won’t happen. Most of the US religious right are bigots using religion to justify their hate, so they have no problem with Trump.

The few that do take their faith seriously are already NeverTrump.

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:18:16pm

Trump stealing the “unfit to be president” accusation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:20:44pm

bwahahahaaaaa…
donald “I can’t resist bait” trump won’t be able to help himself.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:21:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:21:10pm
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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:21:22pm
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bratwurst  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:21:26pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

Larry King spending his twilight years as a tool of Putin is SO embarrassing. Does he REALLY need the money so badly he has to spend his days pulling stunts like this instead of enjoying his children and grandchildren?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:21:37pm
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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:21:39pm
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BlueGrl21  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:22:13pm

Every Trump speech, tweet, interview…any time he makes words…wears down my faith in humanity. It’s like poisonous black sludge being injected into my intrinsic optimism.

I don’t like the way I’m changing, the anger and disgust I feel now, the awareness I can do nothing to make it go away until November. I can turn it off but I also feel a deep, deep responsibility to witness this man and KNOW and never, ever forget what was inflicted on this country by the Republican Party in 2016.

The only way I can do it is through the filter of this site. Believe me, this election cannot be over fast enough for me.

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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:22:26pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

“Matt Lauer did a good job” = Lauer had more sucking power than an industrial shop vacuum.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:22:56pm

He’s sure missing a lot about Phyllis.

Such a fraud & I’m sure these people, whether they like it or not see this.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:23:13pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:24:05pm

‘Phyliis [Schlafley] endorsed me.’

That could very well have contributed to her death. It caused an institutional and familial fight.

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plansbandc  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:24:10pm

Quoting the Bible? Are you fucking kidding me?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:24:29pm
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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:24:36pm

“There’s a biblical verse, that I’ve often read.”

BWahahahahahahahaha.

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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:24:37pm

re: #70 BlueGrl21

Every Trump speech, tweet, interview…any time he makes words…wears down my faith in humanity. It’s like poisonous black sludge being injected into my intrinsic optimism.

I don’t like the way I’m changing, the anger and disgust I feel now, the awareness I can do nothing to make it go away until November. I can turn it off but I also feel a deep, deep responsibility to witness this man and KNOW and never, ever forget what was inflicted on this country by the Republican Party in 2016.

The only way I can do it is through the filter of this site. Believe me, this election cannot be over fast enough for me.

I don’t have any intrinsic optimism to be spoiled by this election, but I also can’t wait for it to be over.

Trump, his supporters and the Republican party are most definitely a cancer upon the nation.

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:25:30pm

Values Voters Rolling Stones

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lockjawcanbefun  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:26:04pm

re: #77 Jenner7

John 11:35

Because Jesus knew Trump’s selective reading was coming.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:26:11pm

‘Can’t always get what you want.’ Great ending!

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makeitstop  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:26:20pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

“We’ll use Judge Scalia as the ultimate example of what we’re looking for.”

A dead Italian guy?

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danarchy  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:26:35pm

I’ve noticed trump using the phrase “A new American future” in some of his speeches lately. Wasn’t that Marco’s thing?

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:27:00pm

re: #83 danarchy

He steals from everybody.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:27:22pm
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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:28:06pm

re: #83 danarchy

I’ve noticed trump using the phrase “A new American future” in some of his speeches lately. Wasn’t that Marco’s thing?

Rubio’s thing was “A New American Century”, because he was the bought and paid for waterboy for PNAC.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:30:05pm

re: #71 EPR-radar

“Matt Lauer did a good job” = Lauer could suck a bowling ball through a garden hose.

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BeachDem  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:30:08pm

re: #26 CuriousLurker

I dunno about you guys, but the woman portraying Hillary swinging that bat doesn’t seem very sick or frail to me… Which one is it—dangerous murder or feeble old woman? It’s the same crap with POTUS, he’s both a jack-booted tyrant and an ineffectual, mommy jeans wearing sissy.

It’s because Teddy is recycling his humor from a rip-off video his gang did back in February—when Hillary was still healthy and Ted was still a candidate.
politico.com

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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:30:51pm

re: #86 Lidane

Rubio’s thing was “A New American Century”, because he was the bought and paid for waterboy for PNAC.

A Republican talking about “new” anything is automatically a lie.

For example, the “New American Century” hogwash is an attempt to indefinitely perpetuate the global balance of power as it existed in 1946.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:30:59pm

I’m listening to Brunuhville, fuck a bunch of Trump Values Voters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:32:39pm
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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:33:10pm

So I’m trying to work on this Page about Jacobs, Mohler, faux laments over the lack of “intellectuals” who are also “Christian”… and this is turning out to be rather lengthy….

BTW, how does “autosave” work on the Page making tool?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:34:30pm

re: #87 lawhawk

“Matt Lauer did a good job” = Lauer could suck a bowling ball through a garden hose.

oh he likes the media now?

/

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:34:34pm

Such a great video

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:35:40pm

re: #83 danarchy

I’ve noticed trump using the phrase “A new American future” in some of his speeches lately. Wasn’t that Marco’s thing?

Make the new American future great again.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:35:59pm

re: #70 BlueGrl21

Every Trump speech, tweet, interview…any time he makes words…wears down my faith in humanity. It’s like poisonous black sludge being injected into my intrinsic optimism.

I don’t like the way I’m changing, the anger and disgust I feel now, the awareness I can do nothing to make it go away until November. I can turn it off but I also feel a deep, deep responsibility to witness this man and KNOW and never, ever forget what was inflicted on this country by the Republican Party in 2016.

The only way I can do it is through the filter of this site. Believe me, this election cannot be over fast enough for me.

Don’t hand your optimism or view of the world on one person, even if it’s a party leader.

The country is actually changing for the better right now, but you have a large group of people fighting it. The don’t want blacks or women being president. They don’t want gays to marry. They want all the people they don’t want to have to be nice to to go back into the closet.

It’s good that we, as a group, are engaged in politics because so many people aren’t. But don’t get lost in the minutiae. Make sure you keep in mind how big it is compared to everything going on. That doesn’t mean everything is awesome, but it means that we’re fighting to keep the momentum going, which is better than fighting to get our first win.

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ericblair  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:36:07pm

In totally shocking news, Wikileaks covers up a Russian bank transfer from Syria.

And in a totally non-ironic response, “the transparency group threatened retribution against reporters at the Daily Dot if they continued to report on the document.”

An unaccountable organization lead by a rapist, doing the scut work for a repressive imperialist oil oligarchy.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:37:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:37:46pm

Found this little guy hanging out in the shop.
I’m guessing he’s just waiting for sundown and the nightclubs to open…

just hanging out, waiting for the weekend…
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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:38:01pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

Such a great video

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Reminds me of Gabe Ortiz.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:39:03pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

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Did Trump mention the Gays?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:39:12pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:39:43pm

re: #96 Belafon

Don’t hand your optimism or view of the world on one person, even if it’s a party leader.

The country is actually changing for the better right now, but you have a large group of people fighting it. The don’t want blacks or women being president. They don’t want gays to marry. They want all the people they don’t want to have to be nice to to go back into the closet.

It’s good that we, as a group, are engaged in politics because so many people aren’t. But don’t get lost in the minutiae. Make sure you keep in mind how big it is compared to everything going on. That doesn’t mean everything is awesome, but it means that we’re fighting to keep the momentum going, which is better than fighting to get our first win.

QFT.

They’re fighting so hard because they’re losing so badly.

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piratedan  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:39:45pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

I watch that and I think about Trump stiffing the girls who came to perform for him at the GOP convention and I wonder, how in the hell can anyone think that both of these candidates are the same?

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:39:48pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:40:29pm

re: #88 BeachDem

It’s because Teddy is recycling his humor from a rip-off video his gang did back in February—when Hillary was still healthy and Ted was still a candidate.
politico.com

Ah, I see. I’d never seen that one before.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:41:32pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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How did they get out?

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piratedan  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:41:57pm

re: #105 jaunte

it’s amazing that for so long that our media never admitted this… that is one incredibly powerful bubble those folks live in.

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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:47:44pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:51:55pm

re: #97 ericblair

In totally shocking news, Wikileaks covers up a Russian bank transfer from Syria.

And in a totally non-ironic response, “the transparency group threatened retribution against reporters at the Daily Dot if they continued to report on the document.”

An unaccountable organization lead by a rapist, doing the scut work for a repressive imperialist oil oligarchy.

This election, making RWNJ fans of Putin and Wikileaks.

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:53:44pm

Trying to summarize Jacobs and his essay and his appearance on Mohler’s podcast, I’m beginning to feel his essay is a kind of high-brow DARVO.

Here is probably the conclusion if/when I finish my Page:

Shorter Alan Jacobs: the reason there are no Christian intellectuals to take on the “illiberal and confrontational movements that often seem to be rooted in religious identity” [and given his deriding of Trump in his opening paragraph, we presume he means Trump and his followers] is because the non-Chistian liberals have excluded Christians from the the intellectual table.

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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:54:17pm

re: #110 Sir John Barron

This election, making RWNJ fans of Putin and Wikileaks.

Not really a surprise. Most RWNJs really would support a reanimated Adolf Hitler if the magic (R) affiliation were there.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:55:30pm

re: #4 blueraven

Jon Voight - Hillary Lies!! Trump is Sincere!

And Actor James Wood was the one who started the “Hillary was wearing a earpiece during the CinC forum”. So I guess there are a few far right actors in liberal Hollywood, after all.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:55:32pm

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

What’s easy to forget is that most people in NYC, architectural critics, and regular folks, didn’t particularly care for the Towers and their design. They were imposed on the skyline by the Port Authority thanks to the Rockefellers - destroying an entire neighborhood in Lower Manhattan (Radio Row), and they were widely derided as white elephants (they saw full occupancy for the first time only a short time before the 9/11 attacks, which was one of the reasons behind the Port Authority giving the 99 year lease to Silverstein). They were often compared to as the box in which the Empire State building was delivered.

Trump’s simply stating what most people thought of the Towers. They weren’t loved. They were there.

I liked them because of the clean lines and the tridents at the base were always one of the most interesting features from a style view.
Until they weren’t taking the lives of nearly 3,000 people when they collapsed during the terror attacks.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:55:38pm

re: #112 EPR-radar

Heh……they should’ve set Er Ist Wieder Da in the USA in 2016.

imdb.com

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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:57:55pm

re: #111 freetoken

Trying to summarize Jacobs and his essay and his appearance on Mohler’s podcast, I’m beginning to feel his essay is a kind of high-brow DARVO.

Here is probably the conclusion if/when I finish my Page:

Shorter Alan Jacobs: the reason there are no Christian intellectuals to take on the “illiberal and confrontational movements that often seem to be rooted in religious identity” [and given his deriding of Trump in his opening paragraph, we presume he means Trump and his followers] is because the non-Chistian liberals have excluded Christians from the the intellectual table.

I’m looking forward to that page. IMO the root issue is that in a secular society there is no reason to give any religion preferential treatment. So what is the point of being a “Christian intellectual”? If their ideas are good, they don’t need the support of religious authority. If their ideas are bad, religious authority cannot save them.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:57:57pm

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

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Of course he mispronounces her name. He probably knew nothing about her prior to her endorsement of him this year.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 1:59:11pm

re: #117 Patricia Kayden

Of course he mispronounces her name. He probably knew nothing about her prior to her endorsement of him this year.

He had a little trouble saying ‘powerful woman’.

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:01:30pm

“A Fake Billionaire, A Fake Pope, and High-Brow DARVO” - thought of titling a Page with that, but it’s probably too cryptic.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:02:07pm
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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:03:01pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:03:17pm
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dangerman  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:04:17pm

re: #116 EPR-radar

I’m looking forward to that page. IMO the root issue is that in a secular society there is no reason to give any religion preferential treatment. So what is the point of being a “Christian intellectual”? If their ideas are good, they don’t need the support of religious authority. If their ideas are bad, religious authority cannot save them.

+1

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:06:07pm

re: #122 gocart mozart

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Only Trump will fix….

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:06:09pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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If he gets more than 2% of Black votes, that would be much more than I’d expect so he’s right about that.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:08:26pm

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

If he gets more than 2% of Black votes, that would be much more than I’d expect so he’s right about that.

I’m figuring he only gets 29 Black votes, so if he surpasses that, then mission accomplished. Winning.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:10:19pm

Hillary is speaking now

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:12:55pm

re: #116 EPR-radar

IMO the root issue is that in a secular society there is no reason to give any religion preferential treatment. So what is the point of being a “Christian intellectual”? If their ideas are good, they don’t need the support of religious authority. If their ideas are bad, religious authority cannot save them.

Agree.

But I think Jacobs is a good example of someone who isn’t willing to take the obvious intellectual step - that classical orthodox, Nicene, Christianity is not enough anymore, if in any sense of the world “Christianity” has a place in society.

On Mohler’s podcast Jacobs made an explicit attempt to state that when he references “Christian” he means so in the traditional, narrowly but strongly delimited, sense (as I wrote above.) This was, I suppose, to affirm to Mullah Mohler that he (Jacobs) would properly meet the definition of what is a “Christian” in Mohler’s eyes.

And so when Jacobs laments the lack of Christian intellectuals, he’s trying to be clear that he still means traditionally defined Christians.

We see again today at the VVS that the religious right is cheering on the very clearly (by both word and deed) anti-Christian Drumpfskind.

There is nothing Jacobs has to offer to these folk, and it’s not because he’s shunned by liberal secular intellectuals. Rather, it’s because the throw-backs don’t care. They’re not buying what any intellectual has to say, Christian or not.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:12:58pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

Hillary is speaking now

At the Values Voters Summit?

Hah, just kidding. The VVS is only about Republican Party values, whatever those are at the particular moment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:13:40pm

re: #77 Jenner7

“There’s a biblical verse, that I’ve often read.”

BWahahahahahahahaha.

This one?

“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.”

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:14:45pm

re: #54 jaunte

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President Obama has allowed in 10,000 Syrian refugees this year alone. Another nonsense attack from Trump. I’m sure some of them are Christian.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:18:19pm

re: #130 Blind Frog Belly White

This one?

Gotta post the vid: Ezekiel 25:17 - Pulp Fiction (3/12) Movie CLIP (1994) HD

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:20:30pm

I am a broken record here…

This is a necessary part of an explanation for why America in 2016 is in political apoplexy: we are transitioning to a post-Christian society, and that “post” part is what a lot of our in-fighting is all about.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:20:40pm

re: #132 Dr Lizardo

Gotta post the vid: [Embedded content]

WHAT?!?

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:20:53pm

This might be of interest to World War II and aviation buffs, a balanced biography of Robert L. Scott, author of the best-seller God is My Co-pilot. (In Vietnam it was a running joke that a sequel would be entitled “Christ is My Crew Chief”)

Double Ace: The Life of Robert Lee Scott Jr., Pilot, Hero, and Teller of Tall Tales

This member review by one Mike O’Connor is probably better than the official blurb:

In his almost 100-year lifetime, Robert L. Scott, Jr. was many things: an Eagle Scout, a West Point grad, an acclaimed national hero, a WWII fighter ace and leader, a best-selling author, noted speaker and the spark plug that helped create Georgia’s Museum of Aviation. And, according to Robert Coram’s illuminating and absolutely fascinating biography, Scott also flunked out of high school and was a shameless self-promoter and teller of tall tales who never let the truth get in the way of a good story, a serial womanizer and an absentee husband and father not to mention the fact that, though he made general, he played fast and loose with USAF rules and regs and had financial troubles throughout his life. Scott’s complicated and complex life is brought to vivid life in DOUBLE ACE, THE LIFE OF ROBERT LEE SCOTT JR.. a 2016 St. Martin’s Press release.

(Be sure to use the LGF Amazon link button at the top right of the page.)

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:21:14pm

re: #18 b.d.

So with 60 some days to go the GOP isn’t attacking her on her politics, just a made up health story?

I think they know they’re done.

The only ad I see Trump (or any other pro-Trump entity) running in the DC/MD/VA area is very mild. Perhaps Trump recognizes that he would be wasting his money on ads in such a blue area. And this ad only started airing after Labor Day.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:24:13pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

WHAT?!?

DO THEY SPEAK ENGLISH IN WHAT?!?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:27:06pm

re: #97 ericblair

In totally shocking news, Wikileaks covers up a Russian bank transfer from Syria.

And in a totally non-ironic response, “the transparency group threatened retribution against reporters at the Daily Dot if they continued to report on the document.”

An unaccountable organization lead by a rapist, doing the scut work for a repressive imperialist oil oligarchy.

Disinformation wants to be free, apparently.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:27:48pm
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William Lewis  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:29:56pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel

Not especially surprising. I don’t think anyone who was in the AVG was all too perfect - I mean, what kind of situation would make being a mercenary fighter pilot in China be attractive? The money was good but not that good after all.

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Tigger2  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:30:06pm

Kind of like calling most of the GOP base dumb.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:30:33pm

Some of the “military experts” supporting Donald Trump

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:30:46pm

re: #141 Tigger2

Aha!

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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:31:57pm

re: #128 freetoken

Agree.

But I think Jacobs is a good example of someone who isn’t willing to take the obvious intellectual step - that classical orthodox, Nicene, Christianity is not enough anymore, if in any sense of the world “Christianity” has a place in society.

On Mohler’s podcast Jacobs made an explicit attempt to state that when he references “Christian” he means so in the traditional, narrowly but strongly delimited, sense (as I wrote above.) This was, I suppose, to affirm to Mullah Mohler that he (Jacobs) would properly meet the definition of what is a “Christian” in Mohler’s eyes.

And so when Jacobs laments the lack of Christian intellectuals, he’s trying to be clear that he still means traditionally defined Christians.

We see again today at the VVS that the religious right is cheering on the very clearly (by both word and deed) anti-Christian Drumpfskind.

There is nothing Jacobs has to offer to these folk, and it’s not because he’s shunned by liberal secular intellectuals. Rather, it’s because the throw-backs don’t care. They’re not buying what any intellectual has to say, Christian or not.

Trump supporters are know-nothings who have no use for intellectuals. Mohler isn’t much better, although he probably isn’t as overtly idiotic as Trumphhroids.

After all, Mohler likely wants a protestant version of the Church Militant to go after atheists and heretics, and you don’t need intellectuals for that either.

IMO, “Christian intellectual” is an oxymoron in a secular society. Real philosophy has no use for purely theological issues, and religion as practiced very rarely allows the kind of freedom of thought we’d expect of an intellectual.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:34:07pm
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Great White Snark  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:34:31pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:37:38pm

re: #133 freetoken

I am a broken record here…

This is a necessary part of an explanation for why America in 2016 is in political apoplexy: we are transitioning to a post-Christian society, and that “post” part is what a lot of our in-fighting is all about.

1000+ years of Western Civ being basically Christian is not something that gets undone quickly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:37:42pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

Some of the “military experts” supporting Donald Trump

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Forgot Major Disaster and Private Parts.
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Varek Raith  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:40:43pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

Some of the “military experts” supporting Donald Trump

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No Major Glory?
I am disappoint.
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:40:59pm

re: #148 Blind Frog Belly White

Forget Major Disaster and Private Parts.
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General Tso and Beetle Bailey will be suing for libel.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:41:50pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:41:59pm

Major Major?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:43:05pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

Major Major?

Major Major Major Major

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:43:52pm

General Paresis.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:43:53pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

Major Major?

That’s Major Major Major Major, TYVM.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:44:22pm

48 seconds! Gah!

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Mattand  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:45:27pm

re: #104 piratedan

I watch that and I think about Trump stiffing the girls who came to perform for him at the GOP convention and I wonder, how in the hell can anyone think that both of these candidates are the same?

I’m dealing with that with most of my family/friends. Lately, I’ve just been laying my cards on the table. I say straight out that it’s ridiculous to compare the two, with a quick description of false balance.

I sugar coat it a bit by saying Clinton is far from perfect. That seems to soften the blow a bit. I then follow that up with saying the idea that people think she’s the equivalent of Lex Luthor is insane. This, even among non-geeks, seems to have some resonance, for some odd reason.

I’m getting to the point where I need to walk away from reading about politics and the election. Mentally, I’m getting to the point where I was post-9/11, where I was constantly flipping channels on TV in a vain attempt to find any sort of good news to latch on to.

Paraphrasing Chez from the Bob & Chez podcast, but the fact that we’re at the point where:

1) A monster like Trump is this close to the Presidency, and
2) you have to actually convince people that his behavior and lack of experience automatically disqualifies him from being President

is really wearing me down, almost to the point of depression.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:46:10pm

Now if Trump were only half the businessman that Milo Minderbinder was….

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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:46:56pm

Countdown to Rage Furby scamming his way to Italy in 3…2…1…

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:51:03pm

re: #157 Mattand

is really wearing me down, almost to the point of depression.

Read this comment as often as required to feel better.

re: #96 Belafon

[…]

The country is actually changing for the better right now, but you have a large group of people fighting it. The don’t want blacks or women being president. They don’t want gays to marry. They want all the people they don’t want to have to be nice to to go back into the closet.

It’s good that we, as a group, are engaged in politics because so many people aren’t. But don’t get lost in the minutiae. Make sure you keep in mind how big it is compared to everything going on. That doesn’t mean everything is awesome, but it means that we’re fighting to keep the momentum going, which is better than fighting to get our first win.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:57:31pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Read this comment as often as required to feel better.

This comment needs to be quoted in full every time we have a Trump thread.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:58:06pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 2:58:59pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Read this comment as often as required to feel better.

Also, it is okay to disconnect for a little bit as required to maintain mental health. Do things that make you happy. Avoid some of the things that make you frustrated and upset.

We’re still in the marathon leading up to the election. We all gotta pace ourselves.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:03:05pm

re: #163 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, it is okay to disconnect for a little bit as required to maintain mental health. Do things that make you happy. Avoid some of the things that make you frustrated and upset.

We’re still in the marathon leading up to the election. We all gotta pace ourselves.

For some of us, that means 12 minute miles.

(I can do one, but I can’t do them back-to-back.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:07:11pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

For some of us, that means 12 minute miles.

(I can do one, but I can’t do them back-to-back.)

Today was a training run, so just slightly better than 13 and a half.

Now I get to clean out underneath the bathroom sinks. (I won’t say this is something I enjoy, but I like having the house feel better?)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:08:13pm

Compare And Contrast
Donald Trump And Hillary Clinton Tell Stories And We Grade Their Work

I swear, sometimes, if it weren’t for my colleagues and the occasional bright student like “Hillary,” I’d quit this lousy job and go write dick jokes for a living. Ha! Like I’d ever get paid for that!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:13:01pm

re: #36 Jenner7

I wonder if he’ll mention how good he’ll be for the LG…BT…Q community.

The LG..uh..BLT…uh..DQ community will love me!

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Tigger2  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:13:31pm
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KingKenrod  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:16:12pm

Messing around with the Meme Generator..

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:18:40pm

Had to page this - there’s a video of a clearly overwhelmed Chuck Todd trying to explain why the “populist” right-wing media is in love with a communist dictator. He dances around it - but the phrases “deranged racist hatred” and “morally bankrupt and evil” and “bribed by communist agents” are clearly right at the tip of his tongue.

Chuck Todd’s Mind Boggled By Far-Right Blogosphere’s Putin Fandom

Is this as far as the rabbit hole goes? Does the racist deranged hatred of black people overrule their hatred and fear of communism? Or is it just that the RWNJs now live in an entirely fact-free universe, where they just look to Rush and Ingraham and Coulter and Hannnity and Trump to tell them who to hate today?

We joke. But have we really arrived at the blind “Two Minutes Hate” stage of our existence as a society?

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:19:23pm

Elon Musk Asks for Help Solving SpaceX Rocket Explosion

Billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk, CEO and founder of the private spaceflight company SpaceX, is asking for help from NASA and the public in figuring out what happened when one of the company’s Falcon 9 rockets exploded on Sept. 1.

“If you have audio, photos or videos of our anomaly last week, please send to report@spacex.com. Material may be useful for investigation,” Musk tweeted today at 11:44 a.m. EDT (1544 GMT).

The explosion took place two days before the scheduled launch of the rocket, during a routine prelaunch operation at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station’s Space Launch Complex 41 in Florida. Based on tweets from Musk in the last 10 hours, the cause of the explosion appears to be completely mystifying the company’s staff.

In his tweets, Elon seemed to hint at sabotage:

“Particularly trying to understand the quieter bang sound a few seconds before the fireball goes off. May come from rocket or something else,” he said.

“When Twitter user @ashwin7002 tweeted at Musk that “there are some videos on YouTube claiming something hit the rocket. Any reality there?” Musk replied, “We have not ruled that out.”

Twitter user Matt Stohrer wrote, “that sound at 0:54 sounds like a metal joint popping under stress. e.g. weld failing on strut, welded seam bursting, etc.” Musk replied, “Most likely true, but we can’t yet find it on any vehicle sensors.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:22:26pm

I hadn’t heard about this (not really surprising, given our media) and it makes me feel sick and sad. :(

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:24:39pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

Let’s be fair here. Captain Kangaroo would have never supported Trump.

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Lidane  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:26:27pm

Mental health break:

Heh.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:26:54pm

So, I heard Hillary skewered Trump…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:32:24pm

This, said at the VVS, should make it absolutely crystal clear that there’s no appeal to actual minorities intended in Trump’s ‘appeal to minorities’. They know with absolute damn certainty that it can get worse, and for some of them it HAS gotten noticeably worse because of his candidacy.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:33:22pm

re: #170 Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)

Had to page this - there’s a video of a clearly overwhelmed Chuck Todd trying to explain why the “populist” right-wing media is in love with a communist dictator. He dances around it - but the phrases “deranged racist hatred” and “morally bankrupt and evil” and “bribed by communist agents” are clearly right at the tip of his tongue.

Page-pimp fail. The link! Where’s the link? (It’s OK, I caught it in the Spy.)

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:34:24pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

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This, said at the VVS, should make it absolutely crystal clear that there’s no appeal to actual minorities intended in Trump’s ‘appeal to minorities’. They know with absolute damn certainty that i can get worse, and for some of them it HAS gotten noticeably worse because of his candidacy.

There’s are plenty of minorities alive that have seen it much worse than now, and they know who wants to take the country back to those days.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:37:59pm

Mr. w thinks someone should start a local get-a-ride project called Goober.

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piratedan  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:38:56pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

what do you have to lose?

and the answer to that question is, “whatever the fuck it is, we’ll be sure to take it from you…..”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:39:29pm

re: #179 wrenchwench

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Mr. w thinks someone should start a local get-a-ride project called Goober.

Much-maligned men, the Pyle boys—Gomer and Goober alike.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:39:30pm

re: #178 Belafon

There’s are plenty of minorities alive that have seen it much worse than now, and they know who wants to take the country back to those days.

Cripes, yeah! Just in my lifetime, a little girl going to school had to be protected by Federal Marshals, because she was black, going to a formerly exclusively white school.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:41:36pm
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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:42:11pm
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blueraven  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:42:27pm

Give me a break. Fox News trying to equate Obama/Clinton attempted “reset with Russia” to Trump’s Putin love.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:43:54pm

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

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Gee, and now we call you Fuckface von Clownstick, and we call HIM Mr. President.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:44:28pm

re: #182 Blind Frog Belly White

Cripes, yeah! Just in my lifetime, a little girl going to school had to be protected by Federal Marshals, because she was black, going to a formerly exclusively white school.

I learned from PZ just today that it was illegal for black people to live in Oregon until 1926. He’s quoting Jizzmodo, but I don’t know why they would make that up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:44:43pm

re: #184 Jenner7

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What was that somebody said last week? Blowing a dogwhistle through a bullhorn?

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:44:52pm

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

[When I was 18, people called me Donald Trump. When he was 18, @BarackObama was Barry Soweto. Weird.]

Aaaand he just alienated everyone who ever took their stepfather’s name.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:45:38pm

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

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“Soweto” you moron?!! You can’t even get your rightwing buzzwords straight! Fucking God!

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:46:04pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

Aaaand he just alienated everyone who ever took their stepfather’s name.

In 2012. That’s a very old Tweet.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:46:08pm

re: #185 blueraven

Give me a break. Fox News trying to equate Obama/Clinton attempted “reset with Russia” to Trump’s Putin love.

I guess they don’t remember the GOP going ape-shit over that?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:47:45pm

re: #192 Timothy Watson

I guess they don’t remember the GOP going ape-shit over that?

Ancient history, unlike Robert Byrd’s KKK membership, or the Democrats being the party of Secession, which was just last week.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:50:59pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:53:03pm

The conservative website Townhall defends Vladimir Putin as a champion of free market capitalism. Seriously. Remember what they use to call Russian apologists “useful idiots.”
m.townhall.com

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:54:42pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

Of course “Godly man” is code for Conservative Christian Con-man.

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:55:08pm

re: #195 DodgerFan1988

The GOP will be approving incest before this election is over.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:56:52pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

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blueraven  Sep 9, 2016 • 3:59:46pm

re: #192 Timothy Watson

I guess they don’t remember the GOP going ape-shit over that?

There were some things that Russia and US worked on with some success for a while. (Iran sanctions). That was when Medvedev was President. Medvedev and Obama seemed to genuinely like each other. Then Putin returned and everything went to hell.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:02:11pm

re: #197 Skip Intro

The GOP will be approving incest before this election is over.

They already have, by nominating him after what he said about Ivanka.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:03:38pm

This appeared on my FB feed, because the Older Boy commented on it (screencapped to prevent Andrew Breitbart’s Rotting Corpse from getting clicks):

Jesus, even REAGAN wouldn’t be a Republican today.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:04:20pm

re: #178 Belafon

There’s are plenty of minorities alive that have seen it much worse than now, and they know who wants to take the country back to those days.

Hell it was worse just seven years ago.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:06:51pm

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

This appeared on my FB feed, because the Older Boy commented on it (screencapped to prevent Andrew Breitbart’s Rotting Corpse from getting clicks):

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Jesus, even REAGAN wouldn’t be a Republican today.

They started that shit in 1988, implying that FDR and Harry Truman, for example, would be voting Republican if they were still alive. Old and played out, like all their tactics.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:08:17pm

re: #203 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They started that shit in 1988, implying that FDR and Harry Truman, for example, would be voting Republican if they were still alive. Old and played out, like all their tactics.

While simultaneously calling them all pinko-commies.

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piratedan  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:08:48pm

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

welcome to the party of “fuck it! We’ll just make shit up!”

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:09:18pm

re: #157 Mattand

I’m right there with you. I think a whole bunch of us are.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:09:46pm

re: #205 piratedan

welcome to the party of “fuck it! We’ll just make shit up!”

I thought it was the party of “Fuck it! We’ll do it live!”

Fuck It We’ll Do It Live!

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Tigger2  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:09:56pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:12:14pm

re: #33 Tigger2

Wait, what?

Ok, I now find it pathetic that those Syrian Fighters are more well educated on what is happening in US Politics than about 60% of Americans.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:13:42pm

re: #56 bratwurst

I still think Eisenhower was better than both of them.

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:13:50pm

re: #200 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They already have, by nominating him after what he said about Ivanka.

I see he’s taking her with him to “Dr. Oz” for his in depth discussion of his medical history. I assume she’s there to do a prostate exam.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:14:25pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:14:33pm

re: #203 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They started that shit in 1988, implying that FDR and Harry Truman, for example, would be voting Republican if they were still alive. Old and played out, like all their tactics.

And of course, the crazy thing is if you look at the Republican platforms of that era, they’re pretty damned liberal, and Kennedy was more liberal than that!

Plus, I can’t see Kennedy fellating an ex-KGB spook on Kremlin-run TV, like You Know Who.

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:14:53pm

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

This appeared on my FB feed, because the Older Boy commented on it (screencapped to prevent Andrew Breitbart’s Rotting Corpse from getting clicks):

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Jesus, even REAGAN wouldn’t be a Republican today.

Kudlow always looks like the world’s biggest dork.

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BigPapa  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:15:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:16:31pm

re: #210 Ziggy_TARDIS

I still think Eisenhower was better than both of them.

He was. Ike understood the role of the military in American democracy. Patton and MacArthur didn’t. Which is EXACTLY why the Right loves THEM and ignores Ike.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:17:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:17:26pm

re: #214 Skip Intro

Kudlow always looks like the world’s biggest dork.

Yeah, funny that you should say that, and the VERY NEXT POST is….

re: #215 BigPapa

Why I’ll never date a feminist

Sorry ladies!

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:17:45pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:18:42pm

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:18:46pm

re: #215 BigPapa

Why I’ll never date a feminist

Sorry ladies!

Wonkette had some fun with him today.

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blueraven  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:19:21pm

Speaking of US/Russia…looks like Kerry and Lavrov have worked out a “ceasefire” in Syria.

For the people of Syria, I really hope this works. I cant help being skeptical though.

U.S., Russia reach deal on cease-fire in Syria

washingtonpost.com

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Tigger2  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:19:46pm
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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:19:54pm

re: #217 Jenner7

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Oh God, I am sure that was a hot take.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:20:35pm

re: #179 wrenchwench

Toyota Hilux- they can do anything.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:20:39pm

re: #221 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wonkette had some fun with him today.

Seriously, if you’re gonna post something like that, and put up your own picture, you better look like George Fucking Clooney, and not someone from Central Casting’s “Dork” file.

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majii  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:20:53pm

re: #172 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Siddiqui was the valedictorian at his high school in Michigan, and he had plans to join the FBI after serving in the Marines. His drill instructor had been investigated previously for abusing a Muslim recruit. There was a witness [another recruit] who witnessed the physical and verbal abuse this young man received from the drill instructor. The witness says the drill instructor physically abused Siddiqui, called him a terrorist, and asked him why he wanted to join the Marine Corps since he [ the drill instructor] already knew he wanted to kill American soldiers and citizens. Sounds like a real wack job to me. Why he is still permitted to train any recruit is a question I think his superiors need to answer.

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Jack Burton  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:20:56pm

re: #219 gocart mozart

That’s 2 years old and apparently is now going to be recycled around the internet yet again.

wafflesatnoon.com

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scottslemmons  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:21:04pm

Word on the street has it that Vox Day is impersonating Chuck Tingle on Facebook.

Which means Vox is going to be the lead character in a few Chuck TIngle books before long…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:21:14pm

re: #184 Jenner7

The funny thing is:

He’s right, but for the wrong reasons.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:21:50pm

re: #228 Jack Burton

That’s 2 years old and apparently is now going to be recycled around the internet yet again.

wafflesatnoon.com

The classics never die.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:23:34pm

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

I do like Johnson, in spite of Vietnam. He got a lot of good accomplished, and was willing to take long term damage for Civil Rights.

Johnson would be a Democrat today. Probably in the muddy center of the party that isn’t recognized. Kudlow is an idiot.

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freetoken  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:23:48pm

re: #141 Tigger2

I think I’ll use that tweet in my Page. thx.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:23:50pm

re: #157 Mattand

I’m dealing with that with most of my family/friends. Lately, I’ve just been laying my cards on the table. I say straight out that it’s ridiculous to compare the two, with a quick description of false balance.

I sugar coat it a bit by saying Clinton is far from perfect. That seems to soften the blow a bit. I then follow that up with saying the idea that people think she’s the equivalent of Lex Luthor is insane. This, even among non-geeks, seems to have some resonance, for some odd reason.

I’m getting to the point where I need to walk away from reading about politics and the election. Mentally, I’m getting to the point where I was post-9/11, where I was constantly flipping channels on TV in a vain attempt to find any sort of good news to latch on to.

Paraphrasing Chez from the Bob & Chez podcast, but the fact that we’re at the point where:

1) A monster like Trump is this close to the Presidency, and
2) you have to actually convince people that his behavior and lack of experience automatically disqualifies him from being President

is really wearing me down, almost to the point of depression.

Be of good cheer because we are going to win. the 538 polls only election forecast had Trump with a one chance in three of winning the election on June 8. Three months later, after some ups and downs around the party conventions, Trumps odds are down to 29%. In three months Trump has lost ground, and now he has only two months until election day. The GOP and the media have dragged Hillary down a bit, but Trump is near his ceiling of support and has pissed off almost everyone not already in his corner. So don’t fret; Hillary is ahead in the polls by the same margin Obama won by in 2012, and he won the election fairly handily.

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steve_davis  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:25:03pm

re: #77 Jenner7

“There’s a biblical verse, that I’ve often read.”

BWahahahahahahahaha.

“It’s from 3 Pellaponisians: ‘Freedom isn’t free at all, that it comes with the highest of costs. The cost of blood.’”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:25:18pm

re: #216 Blind Frog Belly White

Ike and Obama are eerily similar in behaviour as President too.

In spite of Eisenhower being Republican, I really do like him as President to, and there is a good chance I might have voted for him.

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:26:01pm

re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, funny that you should say that, and the VERY NEXT POST is….

Ok, Kudlow’s the second biggest dork in the world.

Seriously, that can’t be for real, can it?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:27:50pm

re: #226 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously, if you’re gonna post something like that, and put up your own picture, you better look like George Fucking Clooney, and not someone from Central Casting’s “Dork” file.

It wouldn’t matter if he looked like George Fucking Clooney. He’d still be just as wrong.

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Jack Burton  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:28:01pm

re: #236 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ike and Obama are eerily similar in behaviour as President too.

In spite of Eisenhower being Republican, I really do like him as President to, and there is a good chance I might have voted for him.

I would too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:28:06pm

re: #219 gocart mozart

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Alas, its a fake.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:29:11pm

re: #232 Ziggy_TARDIS

Johnson would be a Democrat today. Probably in the muddy center of the party that isn’t recognized. Kudlow is an idiot.

Except for Vietnam (which is a huge minus on his record) LBJ was the most liberal President since FDR and to the left of Carter and Clinton and perhaps even Obama.

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bratwurst  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:29:28pm

re: #210 Ziggy_TARDIS

I still think Eisenhower was better than both of them.

By a mile.

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steve_davis  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:29:40pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Found this little guy hanging out in the shop.
I’m guessing he’s just waiting for sundown and the nightclubs to open…

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I so want to put tiny little headphones on those giant ears and let him just chill out to some David Gray, or something.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:31:17pm

re: #227 majii

Siddiqui was the valedictorian at his high school in Michigan, and he had plans to join the FBI after serving in the Marines. His drill instructor had been investigated previously for abusing a Muslim recruit. There was a witness [another recruit] who witness the physical and verbal abuse this young man received from the drill instructor. The witness says the drill instructor physically abused Siddiqui, called him a terrorist, and asked him why he wanted to join the Marine Corps since he[ the drill instructor] knew he wanted to kill American soldiers and citizens. Sounds like a real wack job to me. Why he is still permitted to train any recruit is a question I think his superiors need to answer.

That same drill Sargent had just returned to the job. He did the same thing with a prior recruit and was sent to “training”. The prior recruit graduated. The drill Sargent returned and a kid died as a result.

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majii  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:31:29pm

re: #197 Skip Intro

“The GOP will be approving incest before this election is over.”

It appears to me they already condone pastors molesting kids in their own churches. A former youth pastor of an Ohio church sexually abused a young member, and the church elders told the kid and her parents that they couldn’t come back to the church until the young girl apologized to the youth pastor’s wife. The youth pastor admitted that he molested the child, but the church elders seem to think she misled a grown *ss man. The judge in the case sentenced the youth pastor to 10 years in prison. The prosecutors wanted him to serve 20 years. A pic of the youth pastor showed him all teared up. Yeah, riiight. He knew what he did was wrong, and I think tearing up after ruining a child’s life is BS meant to persuade the judge/jurors to have mercy on him. What disgusted me was reading that the court received some letters of support from some church members.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:31:38pm

re: #241 gocart mozart

Yeah, I think Johnson’s big flaw is that he always had to be confrontational and never backed down. That worked on some things on the Domestic front, but hurt us on Foreign Relations.

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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:31:38pm

re: #238 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It wouldn’t matter if he looked like George Fucking Clooney. He’d still be just as wrong.

This. The trap of bringing up personal appearance without cause is so easy to fall into, especially in cases like this.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:31:39pm

re: #240 Big Beautiful Door

Alas, its a fake.

You have to ruin everything don’t you.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:31:53pm

Good news: I didn’t find anything under the bathroom sink nearly as old as the can of fire extinguisher foam from yesterday.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:32:15pm

re: #245 majii

Sergeant Fuckstick here needs to live in Leavenworth for a while.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:33:32pm

re: #232 Ziggy_TARDIS

I do like Johnson, in spite of Vietnam. He got a lot of good accomplished, and was willing to take long term damage for Civil Rights.

Johnson would be a Democrat today. Probably in the muddy center of the party that isn’t recognized. Kudlow is an idiot.

(JFK is John F Kennedy)

Johnson was Liberal, no two ways about it. The CRA, the VRA, Medicare, the Great Society - that’s the part of his legacy that is often forgotten by other Liberals. Poor bastard’s stuck with Vietnam.

Like a lot of things that turn out to be a Really Bad Idea, it “made sense at the time”. Most folks not on the far left of that time accepted the Domino Theory, that we had to stop Communism from taking over any more countries. We thought we were defending freedom from Godless Communism, and ended up supporting a puppet regime against a popular insurrection. Escalation? The Pentagon was telling him every step of the way that we were winning and just needed a little more to push it over the top.

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MsJ  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:34:03pm

re: #235 steve_davis

“It’s from 3 Pellaponisians: ‘Freedom isn’t free at all, that it comes with the highest of costs. The cost of blood.’”

I wish I could give you 100 updings for that. I spit Pepsi out of my nose. I’m still laughing.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:34:45pm

re: #245 majii

“The GOP will be approving incest before this election is over.”

It appears to me they already condone pastors molesting kids in their own churches. A former youth pastor of an Ohio church sexually abused a young member, and the church elders told the kid and her parents that they couldn’t come back to the church until the young girl apologized to the youth pastor’s wife. The youth pastor admitted that he molested the child, but the church elders seem to think she misled a grown *ss man. The judge in the case sentenced the youth pastor to 10 years in prison. The prosecutors wanted him to serve 20 years. A pic of the youth pastor showed him all teared up. Yeah, riiight. He knew what he did was wrong, and I think tearing up after ruining a child’s life is BS meant to persuade the judge/jurors to have mercy on him. What disgusted me was reading that the court received some letters of support from some church members.

They only care when men are the victims. If men are the perpetrators, it’s hush-hush time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:37:27pm

re: #238 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It wouldn’t matter if he looked like George Fucking Clooney. He’d still be just as wrong.

Well, yeah.

But it would certainly come across far less as Sour Grapes, and wouldn’t be as easy to ridicule. He’s practically a stereotype of the MRA who can’t get laid, so he concocts a philosophy in which he’s being denied his birthright by those nasty feminists.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:40:13pm

re: #245 majii

“The GOP will be approving incest before this election is over.”

It appears to me they already condone pastors molesting kids in their own churches. A former youth pastor of an Ohio church sexually abused a young member, and the church elders told the kid and her parents that they couldn’t come back to the church until the young girl apologized to the youth pastor’s wife. The youth pastor admitted that he molested the child, but the church elders seem to think she misled a grown *ss man. The judge in the case sentenced the youth pastor to 10 years in prison. The prosecutors wanted him to serve 20 years. A pic of the youth pastor showed him all teared up. Yeah, riiight. He knew what he did was wrong, and I think tearing up after ruining a child’s life is BS meant to persuade the judge/jurors to have mercy on him. What disgusted me was reading that the court received some letters of support from some church members.

Well, you know, women tempt men to sin.
//////

*spit*

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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:40:57pm

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, yeah.

But it would certainly come across far less as Sour Grapes, and wouldn’t be as easy to ridicule. He’s practically a stereotype of the MRA who can’t get laid, so he concocts a philosophy in which he’s being denied his birthright by those nasty feminists.

The temptation to ridicule the looks of such easy targets should be resisted. That line of not-really-thinking is consistent with bad shit like people who do look good getting a pass for such behavior or worse.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:41:32pm

OT, but when the clickbait sites do the “40 hot athletes who became actors—you won’t believe #21” why would I want to know #21? Why not #1?

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majii  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:41:41pm

re: #253 wrenchwench

“They only care when men are the victims. If men are the perpetrators, it’s hush-hush time.”

THIS is why I find Geraldo Rivera’s Facebook post so irritating. He backed Alies over Carlson because he just knew Ailes would never sexually harass any female. Now that Carlson is getting a $20 million settlement and Rivera lost a book deal, it’s suddenly clear to him that he should have investigated the matter before taking to Twitter and Facebook to defend a lecherous old man. I think he supported Ailes because Ailes is a man, same as himself, and that he automatically jumped to the conclusion [without evidence] that Carlson was lying because she’s female.

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blueraven  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:41:45pm

Quelle surprise…

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:42:31pm

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

(JFK is John F Kennedy)

Johnson was Liberal, no two ways about it. The CRA, the VRA, Medicare, the Great Society - that’s the part of his legacy that is often forgotten by other Liberals. Poor bastard’s stuck with Vietnam.

Like a lot of things that turn out to be a Really Bad Idea, it “made sense at the time”. Most folks not on the far left of that time accepted the Domino Theory, that we had to stop Communism from taking over any more countries. We thought we were defending freedom from Godless Communism, and ended up supporting a puppet regime against a popular insurrection. Escalation? The Pentagon was telling him every step of the way that we were winning and just needed a little more to push it over the top.

LBJ is like a classical tragic hero, great, but with a fatal flaw which spelled his doom. If he had stayed out of Vietnam he would’ve ranked close to FDR among the greatest presidents of the 20th century.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:42:40pm

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

Watch “Path to War”, great HBO film about how LBJ got sucked into Vietnam.

Path to War (2002) - Michael Gambon - Nail Him Down!

Michael Gambon as Lyndon B. Johnson
Donald Sutherland as Clark M. Clifford
Alec Baldwin as Robert McNamara
Directed by John Frankenheimer

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:43:38pm

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, yeah.

But it would certainly come across far less as Sour Grapes, and wouldn’t be as easy to ridicule. He’s practically a stereotype of the MRA who can’t get laid, so he concocts a philosophy in which he’s being denied his birthright by those nasty feminists.

I know, but the ridicule mostly serves to confirm to him that he’s right. And to those who might agree on some points, because it serves as the same evidence of a double standard - that feminists, who supposedly care about making women feel bad about their bodies (among other things) are actively involved in body shaming.

And yes, I know that not all feminists care about that and not all people ridiculing him are feminist, nor do all of them claim to be, but for me personally, I’m not going to go down that road.

I’d go after the article with a lot of [citation needed]s instead, except I have more productive things to do with my time like clean out cabinets.

I did appreciate that Wonkette mostly managed to skirt the line of not going after him for how he looked but instead the stupidity of his arguments.

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wrenchwench  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:44:14pm

re: #254 freetoken

Alan Jacobs and Albert Mohler Hypocritically Lament Lack of Christian Intellectuals

Thanks for the note up front on how you divided it. Part 3 is great, I’m ‘saving’ Part 2 for tomorrow. Updinging (with a whiff of stale, old Catholic guilt) tonight.

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:44:54pm

re: #208 Tigger2

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Are the Trump-spawn going to kill them?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:45:19pm

Taking a break before I dive into the horror that is the master bathroom medicine cabinet.

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TedStriker  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:45:22pm

re: #130 Blind Frog Belly White

This one?

Ezekiel 25:17 (the ending)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:45:41pm

re: #257 EPR-radar

The temptation to ridicule the looks of such easy targets should be resisted. That line of not-really-thinking is consistent with bad shit like people who do look good getting a pass for such behavior or worse.

Because personal appearance plays no role in dating success.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:45:58pm

re: #260 blueraven

WE GOT A TRUTHER!!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:46:00pm

re: #257 EPR-radar

The temptation to ridicule the looks of such easy targets should be resisted. That line of not-really-thinking is consistent with bad shit like people who do look good getting a pass for such behavior or worse.

Its really hard when the asshole fits the stereotype so perfectly; a complete dork who would have a hard time getting laid if he was the only man in sight with a fistful of cash standing in the middle of a bordello.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:46:25pm

re: #266 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Orbital strike will fix it!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:47:11pm

re: #258 Barefoot Grin

OT, but when the clickbait sites do the “40 hot athletes who became actors—you won’t believe #21” why would I want to know #21? Why not #1?

So you’ll keep clicking through all of the ads, of course!

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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:47:20pm

re: #260 blueraven

Quelle surprise…

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So, does she think it was the Juice or Bush?

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mmmirele  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:49:39pm

re: #245 majii

The two Christian ladies who run the Wartburg Watch (thewartburgwatch.com) are all over these guys. They get regularly harassed by the devout (mostly men). But they make a point of exposing bad acts like child abuse covered up by church hierarchies.

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Tigger2  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:49:49pm

Awesome.

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majii  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:50:02pm

re: #270 Big Beautiful Door

“Its really hard when the asshole fits the stereotype so perfectly;”

What turns me off to having any sympathy for him are the many assumptions he makes about feminists. I’m a feminist, but I like men, a lot. My feminism doesn’t have a d*mn thing to do with hating men and everything to do with being able to earn the same pay for the same job, the same constitutional rights as men, and to express myself freely and not have to kowtow to a man simply because he’s a man and happens to have an aversion to facts and the truth.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:50:43pm

re: #270 Big Beautiful Door

Its really hard when the asshole fits the stereotype so perfectly; a complete dork who would have a hard time getting laid if he was the only man in sight with a fistful of cash standing in the middle of a bordello.

Seriously. I’m pretty sure that a LOT of people who wouldn’t normally mock someone’s appearance checked to see if that post was real because, honestly, it looks like a parody.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:51:17pm

re: #272 Big Beautiful Door

So you’ll keep clicking through all of the ads, of course!

So if I know that #1 is the killer shot, I won’t bother, but if it’s kind of in the middle then, what the heck….. Makes sense.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:52:17pm

re: #272 Big Beautiful Door

So you’ll keep clicking through all of the ads, of course!

I fell for one of those: “25 (?) Child Stars Who Committed Suicide”, and the thumbnail was Danica McKellar. I went: “What? No!” and was forced to click through the whole thing. Fortunately she wasn’t one of them.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:52:41pm
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Timothy Watson  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:53:16pm

re: #279 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I fell for one of those: “25 (?) Child Stars Who Committed Suicide”, and the thumbnail was Danica McKellar. I went: “What? No!” and was forced to click through the whole thing. Fortunately she wasn’t one of them.

I like it when it says “you won’t believe 17!” and the slideshow only goes to 15.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:53:21pm

re: #279 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I fell for one of those: “25 (?) Child Stars Who Committed Suicide”, and the thumbnail was Danica McKellar. I went: “What? No!” and was forced to click through the whole thing. Fortunately she wasn’t one of them.

And who the fuck is Chumley and why do I care about his/her weight loss?

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:54:07pm

re: #277 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously. I’m pretty sure that a LOT of people who wouldn’t normally mock someone’s appearance checked to see if that post was real because, honestly, it looks like a parody.

And the thing is that even that guy, if he learned a few social skills, upgraded his wardrobe a bit and got a better haircut could meet someone nice just by treating people with a modicum of respect and quit wallowing in self pity.

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:54:26pm

Gag alert.

NBC News chief Andy Lack praises Matt Lauer’s presidential forum performance

Matt did a tremendous job - driving one of the most serious discussions to date on these topics. Nearly 15 million people watched the event, and over 26 million tuned in at some point during the hour.”

latimes.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:56:06pm

re: #284 Skip Intro

Gag alert.

NBC News chief Andy Lack praises Matt Lauer’s presidential forum performance

latimes.com

IOW, no matter how much blowback they get, nothing will change.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:56:10pm

re: #276 majii

“Its really hard when the asshole fits the stereotype so perfectly;”

What turns me off to having any sympathy for him are the many assumptions he makes about feminists. I’m a feminist, but I like men, a lot. My feminism doesn’t have a d*mn thing to do with hating men and everything to do with being able to earn the same pay for the same job, the same constitutional rights as men, and to express myself freely and not have to kowtow to a man simply because he’s a man and happens to have an aversion to facts and the truth.

It has always bothered me, the idea that being a feminist means you don’t like men, or viewed another way, that a woman who’s a feminist would not make a good girlfriend/lover/wife. To think that, you’d almost have to believe that no women, if given an actual choice, would choose to be with a man. Thus you have to deprive them of that choice.

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majii  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:56:13pm

re: #274 mmmirele

“They get regularly harassed by the devout (mostly men).”

One would think that Christians, male or female, wouldn’t approve of bad acts like child abuse and pedophilia, but the sad thing is that many of them say they don’t approve of them, but they make it their business to protect those who do even going to the point of harassing anyone who speaks out against the perpetrators. I got a good look at Christians who are CINOs when Josh Duggar’s misdeeds were exposed last year. Mike Huckabee and others who claim to be devout Christians couldn’t wait to try to justify his aberrant behavior with silly excuses and made up BS. I’ve been a Christian for over 50 years, and my faith leads me to know that some things are right and some are wrong, and there’s no way to justify the wrong.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:56:20pm

re: #284 Skip Intro

Gag alert.

NBC News chief Andy Lack praises Matt Lauer’s presidential forum performance

latimes.com

To be fair, so did Josh Marshall.

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:57:51pm

re: #285 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I obviously missed the “serious” part. Was that where Lauer gave Trump two chances to point to his left foot?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 4:57:58pm

re: #280 Charles Johnson

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Nolte stood up and noticed a stool.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:00:09pm

re: #288 Barefoot Grin

To be fair, so did Josh Marshall.

Marshall felt Lauer did better by allowing Trump to make a fool of himself in several major ways that might not have worked if he were more confrontational.

Myself, I think he did a better job than he’s credited with, with Trump, and totally screwed the pooch with Clinton.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:01:11pm

re: #290 Barefoot Grin

Nolte stood up and noticed a stool.

His avatar still bothers me. Even Al Bundy and his NO MA’AM buddies would be horrified at what’s going on now.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:01:23pm

re: #291 Blind Frog Belly White

Marshall felt Lauer did better by allowing Trump to make a fool of himself in several major ways that might not have worked if he were more confrontational.

Myself, I think he did a better job than he’s credited with, with Trump, and totally screwed the pooch with Clinton.

Yep, and inadvertently Lauer’s harsh questioning of HRC allowed her to show presidential mettle.

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:02:46pm

re: #292 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

His avatar still bothers me. Even Al Bundy and his NO MA’AM buddies would be horrified at what’s going on now.

Yeah, Bundy was a likeable loser. Nolte is just an angry little shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:04:53pm

re: #294 Skip Intro

Yeah, Bundy was a likeable loser. Nolte is just an angry little shit.

You at least felt sorry for Al.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:08:30pm

re: #293 Barefoot Grin

Yep, and inadvertently Lauer’s harsh questioning of HRC allowed her to show presidential mettle.

So then yesterday she holds an actual Press Conference, and nobody asks about the emails. About fucking time.

I think someone in her campaign pointed out that if she did more gaggles and pressers, they’d run out of stupid questions eventually and start asking serious ones.

It could happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:08:41pm

trump in Pensacola tonight:

time to clean the catboxes…

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:09:00pm

re: #295 Blind Frog Belly White

You at least felt sorry for Al.

Pre-internet porn, Al was taking his latest copy of “Juggs” into the toilet rather than have sex with Peg.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:11:26pm

Oh boy, Rudy has lost it….

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:12:26pm

BBL, a rabid Nishikori fan is telling me it’s my fault for not watching that he’s not winning the semis in US Open…..

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Charles Johnson  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:12:32pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:12:36pm

re: #195 DodgerFan1988

The conservative website Townhall defends Vladimir Putin as a champion of free market capitalism. Seriously. Remember what they use to call Russian apologists “useful idiots.”
m.townhall.com

They’re still idiots, but probably a lot more useful. In commie times, the Kremlin never came close to putting their man in the White House.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:13:38pm

Oh my god. Rudy says we need to have 350 ships and we can stop China. Then China will look at us and they’ll be afraid.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:14:50pm

Douche face is up….

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:15:44pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:16:12pm

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

Because personal appearance plays no role in dating success.

Of course it does. But the failure and offensiveness of this clown’s MRA views have nothing to do with his appearance.

Just mocking his appearance translates roughly to “you’re a loser and wrong because you’re an omega” in MRA-speak. I prefer not to provide any validation, even incidental, for MRA-speak.

This idiot’s appearance is relevant for me if/when the question of me dating him comes up. As that question has not come up, there is nothing to say on that point.

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Tigger2  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:16:33pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:18:53pm

re: #303 Jenner7

Oh my god. Rudy says we need to have 350 ships and we can stop China. Then China will look at us and the’ll be afraid.

I think they don’t really get the being feared by everyone is not necessarily a good thing. Ruling by fear is terribly, terribly expensive, and you can never, ever relax. How do you think China would respond to us overtly trying to frighten them into compliance?

The crazy thing is, wingnuts seem to think everyone else will respond in exactly the opposite way from how we, or pretty much everyone, everywhere, in every era has responded.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:21:33pm

re: #307 Tigger2

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I guess we’re Capitalist Imperialist Running Dogs And Their Craven Lackeys, and therefore The Enemy Of Freedom-Loving Peoples Everywhere.
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EPR-radar  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:21:41pm

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

I think they don’t really get the being feared by everyone is not necessarily a good thing. Ruling by fear is terribly, terribly expensive, and you can never, ever relax. How do you think China would respond to us overtly trying to frighten them into compliance?

The crazy thing is, wingnuts seem to think everyone else will respond in exactly the opposite way from how we, or pretty much everyone, everywhere, in every era has responded.

The Project for a New American Century manifesto had exactly this mindset — indefinite American global military hegemony, propped up by worldwide fear of the US and massive US military spending.

It was a proposal for a thousand-year Reich.

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Jenner7  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:21:54pm

“This will be taken away if you don’t vote….”

“Be vigilant on election day..”

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Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:22:34pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:22:42pm

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

Fits their general punitive approach:

“I’ll force you to act like I think a patriot should.”

“Love me or I’ll track you down and hurt you bad.”

“Act like it says (in parts of) this book or burn for all eternity.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:25:36pm

re: #219 gocart mozart

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General Arse Biscuites: Real or Fake?

The photo circulating online which allegedly shows a man named General Arse Biscuites is not real. It merely superimposed the fake name onto a screenshot of a French naval officer.


I still thought it was LOL funny. I’m getting weird at times.
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b.d.  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:28:40pm

Is Melissa Harris-Perry the only rational ex-MSNBC employee out there?

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bratwurst  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:28:50pm

Thank goodness he got the Greta time slot to ask important questions like this:

Fox’s Brit Hume: Is It Possible To Call A Woman Shrill In America Today Without Being Called Sexist?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:30:06pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:31:04pm

re: #316 bratwurst

Thank goodness he got the Greta time slot to ask important questions like this:

Fox’s Brit Hume: Is It Possible To Call A Woman Shrill In America Today Without Being Called Sexist?

Is it possible to call a black person uppity in America today without being called racist? Apparently. Never mind….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:31:06pm

re: #310 EPR-radar

The Project for a New American Century manifesto had exactly this mindset — indefinite American global military hegemony, propped up by worldwide fear of the US and massive US military spending.

It was a proposal for a thousand-year Reich.

Because the last one worked out so well?

I think there’s something….well, not quite racist, but similar to racism, in this line of thinking. They believe that the leaders and populations of other countries will respond to violence and threats in exactly the opposite way from how we ourselves would respond. They think that others can be cowed into compliance by exactly the same sort of things that have always led us to resist more strongly. Thus, they believe that we are different from everyone else, that others would meekly submit while we would fight.

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TedStriker  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:40:15pm

re: #310 EPR-radar

The Project for a New American Century manifesto had exactly this mindset — indefinite American global military hegemony, propped up by worldwide fear of the US and massive US military spending.

It was a proposal for a thousand-year Reich.

And we all know what happened the last time that was attempted.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:43:37pm

re: #320 TedStriker

And we all know what happened the last time that was attempted.

“It would have worked, if it weren’t for you meddlesome kids Americans and Brits, and your stupid dog Russia!”

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A Cranky One  Sep 9, 2016 • 5:43:41pm

re: #313 jaunte

Fits their general punitive approach:

The Republican approach to foreign policy and domestic governance resembles the thinking of a domestic abuser.

Classic example of domestic abuse: Repeal Obamacare or we’ll shut down the government. There, done. See what you made us do? It’s your fault!

The desire to rule by fear comes from the same mindset. Bullies, all.


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