Monday Night Acoustic Jam: Spencer Elliott - Torque

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From the CD - Unspoken. Downloads and Guitar Tablature available at https://www.candyrat.com/artists/spencerelliott/

Audio Production - Antoine Dufour
Video Production - Kid In The Background
Director - Jason Lockart

Find Spencer Elliott:

Webpage: http://www.spencerelliott.net/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Spencer-Elliott-1677589862455079/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/SpencerDElliott

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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6iCE6UZ8ksUuPto1L317uU
Apple Music: https://itun.es/us/uruL5

Jumbo Fan Fret Guitar by Jedidiah Wiebe http://jedidiah.ca/

Tuning CGCGA#C

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434 comments
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:08:20pm

Rant time: why can’t I donate the unused crutches that we have lying around the house so some low-income family doesn’t have to pay for crutches when someone has to walk out of the ER with a broken leg?

#$&*(%#&&%

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Great White Snark  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:10:57pm

All these videos are so well shot and edited. Well done on top of the music and sound production.

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:12:34pm

Well, this is seriously OT, but I just got an e-mail from the sub-basement of the Denver Airport that tells me I need to need to go to sleep because tomorrow shit is going to blow up. I will follow the directions of my Reptile Overlord and say goodnight.

In addition, my Feline Overlord needs scritches.

When did Humans lose control?

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:15:09pm

re: #3 austin_blue

Well, this is seriously OT, but I just got an e-mail from the sub-basement of the Denver Airport that tells me I need to need to go to sleep because tomorrow shit is going to blow up. I will follow the directions of my Reptile Overlord and say goodnight.

In addition, my Feline Overlord needs scritches.

When did Humans lose control?

Are you kidding? We never had control. Dogs, Cats, Lizards,God - it doesn’t matter, we have never wanted the boss’s job.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:24:05pm

re: #3 austin_blue

When did Humans lose control?

When we discovered fire. IMHO

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:30:28pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:34:41pm

re: #1 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Rant time: why can’t I donate the unused crutches that we have lying around the house so some low-income family doesn’t have to pay for crutches when someone has to walk out of the ER with a broken leg?

#$&*(%#&&%

Because it’s an FDA regulated product class for which they track incident reports. I’m also guessing that a hospital’s liability insurance isn’t going to cover an accident involving the failure of a donated used crutch.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:41:25pm

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

Because it’s an FDA regulated product class for which they track incident reports. I’m also guessing that a hospital’s liability insurance isn’t going to cover an accident involving the failure of a donated used crutch.

And the part where they are easy $$$ has nothing to do with it, I’m sure.

I have found a place that’ll take them. Extra gas and effort on my part, but I’d really rather not throw them away given that each were used for approximately 6 hours at most.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2016 • 9:59:55pm

HMS Terror has been found—totally coincidentally, in Terror Bay.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 12, 2016 • 10:09:23pm

re: #8 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And the part where they are easy $$$ has nothing to do with it, I’m sure.

I have found a place that’ll take them. Extra gas and effort on my part, but I’d really rather not throw them away given that each were used for approximately 6 hours at most.

You should see the racket that is magnetic bone growth stimulators such as CMF’s Spinalogic. It’s relatively simple technology, just a couple of electromagnetic coils chirping out a signal whose flux through bone induces growth. The tech in the devices is legitimately worth $300 or so tops factoring everything in, but they bill insurance companies something like $4K for each device. On top of that they hardwire both a maximum number of uses into NVRAM and a battery powered clock that disables the device after something like nine months just to kill any potential resale market.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 12, 2016 • 10:11:51pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Between this, this past week’s news cycle, and mr. klys’s current despair with the state of our democracy, I’m just ready for the damn meteors already.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Sep 12, 2016 • 10:12:12pm

After hearing some crazy stuff from the mouths of otherwise sane-appearing co-workers today, I have a weird little What-If hope that H wins by The Mother of All Landslides, and we have 4-8 years of things getting a lot better. Imagine… *dream wave* wages rise to match the cost of living, bank executive thieves go to jail, ISIS is crushed out of existence, gun violence is finally studied and effective laws are passed, U.S. manufacturing exists again, people have enough money for savings, investment, and home-buying all at the same time, outrageous credit card and student loan debts are dealt with, social media trolls fade away, women are recognized as real people with full control of their own reproductive systems, being a violent anti-social asshole becomes a testable & diagnosable condition, the religious right dies off, successful & efficient single-payer health care is emplaced, STEM and space investment takes off, the U.S. lands astronauts somewhere cool, infrastructure gets investment, 150-mile-range electric motorcycles are subsidized and distributed to everybody, national high-speed rail is installed, the nation’s power grid is hardened and fed by nuclear/solar, everybody gets nationalized broadband for $5 a month, the Air Force is rolled back into the Army and the Marines get the A-10, the Brits bring back the Concorde, multilingualism becomes an educational goal, the entire current GOP voluntarily emigrates to the badlands of frontier Pakistan and is never heard from again, DST is eliminated and a 35-hour work week with mandatory Weekly Ethnic Food Truck Lunch is passed, and racism and sexism are gradually exorcised from our national soul…

And then I woke up…

But imagine if H runs the show for a while and nothing bad happens… What’s the right going to do? They want their bloody mess so bad, they’ll have to make it themselves.

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retired cynic  Sep 12, 2016 • 10:14:42pm

re: #13 Pawn of the Oppressor

… What’s the right going to do? They want their bloody mess so bad, they’ll have to make it themselves.

That’s what I’m afraid of.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 12, 2016 • 10:31:06pm

Sharing my mental health break.

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Sep 12, 2016 • 11:03:55pm

re: #13 Pawn of the Oppressor

But imagine if H runs the show for a while and nothing bad happens… What’s the right going to do? They want their bloody mess so bad, they’ll have to make it themselves.

Damn. That list of stuff to accomplish is pretty much what a country with a functioning government would do; a gov’t that wasn’t totally under the thumb of deranged right-wing “christian” nutballs who want to roll everything back to the 14th century, because that’s when religion last had unilateral life/death authority over everything.

I’d take any *two* of the items on that list (although the electric motorcycles would work here in L.A., they might be a bit … chilly … on a winter’s night in the Great Lakes region).

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 12, 2016 • 11:10:35pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:03:54am

re: #10 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Terror Bay sounds like a 80s B monster movie.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 13, 2016 • 1:58:25am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Terror Bay sounds like a 80s B monster movie.

Pirate-themed aftershave lotion.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:31:07am

Epic response to a concern troll on another blog I read:

No, PJ, MBunge is right.

The Democrats should have found someone in the peak of health. Perhaps, they could have picked someone young and hale, with a beautiful spouse and a couple of photogenic kids. It would have been better to pick someone with less on the record, so there’d be no past votes or positions that could be used to embarrass them. A humble background would be good as well, so maybe someone with a history of community service so as to avoid all talk of possible corruption.

Man, if the Democrats had only done that, the Republicans would have had nothing but nice things to say about them during the election and then, once in office, that kind of person would have had a clear path to enacting the kind of liberal agenda the left has all been waiting for.

outsidethebeltway.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:43:09am

re: #13 Pawn of the Oppressor

And then I woke up…

But imagine if H runs the show for a while and nothing bad happens… What’s the right going to do? They want their bloody mess so bad, they’ll have to make it themselves.

Expect cries of fraud and manipulation, no matter what the margin of victory. Expect impeachment proceedings to commence within weeks of her taking office. Expect nothing but obfustication, more budget battles and perhaps even another sequestration. Expect the Supreme Court seat to remain unfilled for a record length of time.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:45:42am

re: #20 Timothy Watson

Epic response to a concern troll on another blog I read:

outsidethebeltway.com

God save us from the concern trolls. I’m absolutely convinced that 95% of them are those Bernie fans whose first remarks after it became obvious she was the nominee was “How is she going to win my vote?,” as if she had some obligation to them once Bernie bowed out.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:49:29am

HRC has lost 14 points in CNN’s Political Prediction Market. There’s only one issue with that—CNN is not running a political prediction market. It lacks the one thing that makes such a market work, the actual risk of real money. CNN is running a thinly-disguised online poll. They are inches away from outright fraud.

Political Prediction Market: Clinton odds for White House drop 14 points
cnn.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:51:33am

re: #23 Decatur Deb

HRC has lost 14 points in CNN’s Political Prediction Market. There’s only one issue with that—CNN is not running a political prediction market. It lacks the one thing that makes such a market work, the actual risk of real money. CNN is running a thinly-disguised online poll. They are inches away from outright fraud.

Political Prediction Market: Clinton odds for White House drop 14 points
cnn.com

CNN knows that we want instant miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and election results weeks or months in advance. They have nothing to lose from doing this.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:54:32am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

CNN knows that we want instant miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and election results weeks or months in advance. They have nothing to lose from doing this.

Except their Corporate Soul.

(Sometimes I crack myself up.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:57:08am

re: #25 Decatur Deb

Except their Corporate Soul.

(Sometimes I crack myself up.)

Long since sold down the river

I still recall last summer when DT boasted on CNN about how exciting his rallies were in comparison to Jeb Bush, where people were falling asleep.

Within a half an hour, CNN was broadcasting an interview with a woman who said she fell asleep at a Jeb! rally.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:58:16am
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What Bevin is doing here is just grotesquely irresponsible. Combine it with LePage’s open call last week for a race war saying blacks and hispanics are “the enemy” and we’re seeing a ratcheting up of violent rhetoric by elected GOP officials that must be addressed head on.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 13, 2016 • 3:01:24am

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

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What Bevin is doing here is just grotesquely irresponsible. Combine it with LePage’s open call last week for a race war saying blacks and hispanics are “the enemy” and we’re seeing a ratcheting up of violent rhetoric by elected GOP officials that must be addressed head on.

Blood and Soil.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 3:08:21am

My opinion about concern trolls is thus: If your biggest worry about this story is that you feel “lied” to and not that the media is promoting conspiracy theories as legitimate stories, then you’re not taking this election seriously. If you feel that she has somehow abused your “trust” because she didn’t keep you constantly aware of her health, then you’re focused on exactly the wrong issues. And if you’re seriously suggesting that your vote may depend on whether or not she convinces you she’s healthy enough to serve, that you’d entertain the idea of toughing out 4-8 years of Trump because she got sick, then you need to seriously reevaluate your priorities.

In short, even if she announced tomorrow that she was dying of consumption and might not see next Christmas, I’d still vote for over Trump. What’s the worst that happens: Tim Kaine becomes president?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 3:10:31am

re: #29 Targetpractice

My opinion about concern trolls is thus: If your biggest worry about this story is that you feel “lied” to and not that the media is promoting conspiracy theories as legitimate stories, then you’re not taking this election seriously.

We have too many people who see participation in the electoral process as a form of public temper tantrum.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 3:11:35am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have too many people who see participation in the electoral process as a form of public temper tantrum.

“What about my feelings?! I can’t vote against my conscience!”

Cry me a fucking river.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 13, 2016 • 3:15:32am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have too many people who see participation in the electoral process as a form of public temper tantrum.

Most of those around here tend to express their tantrum by refusing to vote at all. That’s theoretically deplorable, so I suggest third party to them. There is a delayed risk in that approach, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 3:28:51am

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Most of those around here tend to express their tantrum by refusing to vote at all. That’s theoretically deplorable, so I suggest third party to them. There is a delayed risk in that approach, too.

In order to effectively vote Third Party, you really need to work on developing a party to be a force at a national level. That is too much work for people who just wanna whine.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 3:34:15am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In order to effectively vote Third Party, you really need to work on developing a party to be a force at a national level. That is too much work for people who just wanna whine.

It’s why the Libertarian and Green parties are generally treated as jokes, because in election years the bulk of their votes are “protest” votes of people who wanna feel as though they’re striking a blow against the “duopoly.” The young punks and old hippies who proclaim they’re not “voting for the lesser evil.”

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:29:26am

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

Because it’s an FDA regulated product class for which they track incident reports. I’m also guessing that a hospital’s liability insurance isn’t going to cover an accident involving the failure of a donated used crutch.

But we can’t track gun violence. Priorities.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:39:55am

Welp, last night I got a call to my land line. I ignored it, like I do to all landline calls from an unfamiliar number, but they kept calling back and calling back so I figured I’ll pick up, and if it’s a junk call I’ll just hang up.

Well it was an election survey.
“We are calling for your opinion in this November election. If you would like to participate in this survey press 1”
*1*
Are you a registered voter? Press 1 for yes, 2 for no.
*1*
How likely are you to vote this November? Press 1 for Very Likely, 2 for Possible, 3 for Not Voting
*1*
Did you vote in the Michigan Primary in March of 2016? Press 1 for yes, 2 for no.
*1*
Did you vote in the Republican or the Democratic Primary? Press 1 for Republican, 2 for Democratic
*2*
*BLOOP*
*dial tone*

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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:40:49am
Two gymnasts, including a member of the 2000 U.S. women’s Olympic team, say they were sexually abused by a former longtime doctor for USA Gymnastics, court documents and interviews show.

Dr. Larry Nassar, 53, who worked for decades for the gymnastics organization until his dismissal last year, sexually groped and fondled the teenage Olympian under the guise of physical therapy during her elite career, according to a lawsuit filed last week in California.

The Olympian is identified as “Jane Doe” in the lawsuit against Nassar and the USA Gymnastics organization. Her attorneys on Monday identified her only as a medal-winning member of the team that competed in the 2000 Sydney Olympics.

wtop.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:44:45am

re: #35 Eventual Carrion

But we can’t track gun violence. Priorities.

The Constitution does not guarantee a Right to Bear Crutches…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:51:14am

re: #1 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Rant time: why can’t I donate the unused crutches that we have lying around the house so some low-income family doesn’t have to pay for crutches when someone has to walk out of the ER with a broken leg?

#$&*(%#&&%

Erm, you know that people come in assorted heights? And physical appliances like crutches and walkers have to be adjusted for the patient? For example a very short person can’t just take a pair of crutches that was used by a basketball player. And if a crutch is not fitted to the body it’s supporting, it’s basically worthless.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:51:34am
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And the NC GOP’s response (NOT from The Onion):

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:54:01am

re: #40 Dr. Matt

Gays are all about predatory rape, and the sooner we wake up, the safer our athletes’ and soldiers’ anuses will be!!!

/

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:56:38am

First they made us share bathrooms with the coloreds, and I remained silent….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:57:27am

re: #42 Barefoot Grin

First they made us share bathrooms with the coloreds, and I remained silent….

deserves more updings than I am allowed to give at this time!

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 4:57:53am

re: #1 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ve seen similar issues with everything from hospital beds for a home to commodes that are no longer needed. The stuff is still in good condition, but it’s nearly impossible to donate to charities (usually because it’s big/bulky stuff).

Try thedmelist.com

Also, do a search for donating durable medical equipment. That might give you some leads.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:14:16am
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What’s effectively a press release for a hobgoblin of hate is touted as news on Drudge.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:15:09am

Univision Executives Vote to Delete Six Gawker Media Posts

And one of them is about Rage Furby:

4. Wait, Did Clowntroll Blogger Chuck Johnson Shit On The Floor One Time? (Deadspin)

In a vote carried out on Friday night, Univision executives voted to remove six posts published by former Gawker Media properties that are involved in ongoing litigation. The vote took place just hours before the close of Univision’s purchase of Gawker Media’s assets, and was carried out under a provision in Gawker’s existing collective bargaining agreement.

[…]

John Cook, the executive editor of Gawker Media, voted to preserve all six posts. As he explained in a memo to staff, however, the other two executives—Felipe Holguin and Jay Grant, both of Univision’s Fusion Media Group—still voted to remove the six posts over his strenuous objections

[…]

“I communicated to Felipe and Jay in the strongest terms that deleting these posts is a mistake,” Cook wrote in the memo, “and that disappearing true posts about public figures simply because they have been targeted by a lawyer who conspired with a vindictive billionaire to destroy this company is an affront to the very editorial ethos that has made us successful enough to be worth acquiring.”

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:17:00am

re: #42 Barefoot Grin

First they made us share bathrooms with the coloreds, and I remained silent screamed my goddamn head off….

Edited for accuracy.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:19:32am

Fonzie Jumps the Shark on Happy Days (Episode 5.3) 1977

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:24:41am
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:24:48am

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, last night I got a call to my land line. I ignored it, like I do to all landline calls from an unfamiliar number, but they kept calling back and calling back so I figured I’ll pick up, and if it’s a junk call I’ll just hang up.

Well it was an election survey.
“We are calling for your opinion in this November election. If you would like to participate in this survey press 1”
*1*
Are you a registered voter? Press 1 for yes, 2 for no.
*1*
How likely are you to vote this November? Press 1 for Very Likely, 2 for Possible, 3 for Not Voting
*1*
Did you vote in the Michigan Primary in March of 2016? Press 1 for yes, 2 for no.
*1*
Did you vote in the Republican or the Democratic Primary? Press 1 for Republican, 2 for Democratic
*2*
*BLOOP*
*dial tone*

Your opinion MIGHT matter to us, answer these questions first.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:26:00am

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Constitution does not guarantee a Right to Bear Crutches…

Fifth amendment rights

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:29:34am

re: #50 Eventual Carrion

Your opinion MIGHT matter to us, answer these questions first.

That survey failed to take into consideration that MI is an open primary state and ripe for ratfucking. Someone who voted in the Democratic primary would not necessarily be a Democrat.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:34:03am

larry kudlow (R-douche) just claimed today JFK would be a supply-side hawkish republican. SMH.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:35:57am

re: #53 Dr. Matt

larry kudlow (R-douche) just claimed today JFK would be a supply-side hawkish republican. SMH.

It’s pretty hilarious considering that Reagan would be a RINO with the GOP as it is currently constituted. Heck, GHWB and GWB would be RINOs. And Nixon. And Ike. And Lincoln. And Teddy Roosevelt.

All RINOs - or just flat out Democrats (or called communists) or worse.

The GOP is so far to the right these days that it’d be impossible for any prior GOP president to be nominated with this current bunch of extremists.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:37:53am

re: #54 lawhawk

In 30 years, the kudlow’s of the world will be claiming Obama would be a republican today (2046).

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jeffreyw  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:40:52am

Good morning!

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Take ur good morning and fvck off.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:45:02am

re: #56 jeffreyw

What’s the matter? Cat got your breakfast first? /

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:48:12am

re: #46 Dr. Matt

Rage Furby will be gloating for the next year about how he took down Gawker and made them submit to his iron will.

Nice move, Univision. Now he’ll never shut up.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:49:02am
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Joe Bacon  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:49:16am

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, last night I got a call to my land line. I ignored it, like I do to all landline calls from an unfamiliar number, but they kept calling back and calling back so I figured I’ll pick up, and if it’s a junk call I’ll just hang up.

Well it was an election survey.
“We are calling for your opinion in this November election. If you would like to participate in this survey press 1”
*1*
Are you a registered voter? Press 1 for yes, 2 for no.
*1*
How likely are you to vote this November? Press 1 for Very Likely, 2 for Possible, 3 for Not Voting
*1*
Did you vote in the Michigan Primary in March of 2016? Press 1 for yes, 2 for no.
*1*
Did you vote in the Republican or the Democratic Primary? Press 1 for Republican, 2 for Democratic
*2*
*BLOOP*
*dial tone*

I can’t help myself. I keep lying to them!

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Jayleia  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:49:32am

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

To be fair, its not like he was ever going to shut up to begin with…

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:51:54am

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rage Furby will be gloating for the next year about how he took down Gawker and made them submit to his iron will.

Nice move, Univision. Now he’ll never shut up.

Essentially, Univision got a threat from the lawyer Peter Thiel hired for Hulk Hogan’s case against Gawker Media.

Presumably, Univision decided that rather then slug it out with Thiel’s hired guns, it was easier to comply. (It was about the money; they don’t want to spend it.)

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:57:27am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:58:39am

Baby Whiplash was about to board the Trump Train, he would even ride in the cattle car, but then this happened==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 5:59:31am

If there is anything Baby Whiplash hates with the fire of a million suns, it’s paid family leave & equal pay.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:01:14am

re: #65 The Vicious Babushka

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:02:06am

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:04:06am

XKCD takes on climate change:

xkcd.com

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:04:29am

re: #48 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Because the phrase “jump the shark” is part of our lexicon, I have explained to my kids where the phrase came from. I have not shown them the scene, though.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:04:48am

re: #62 Anymouse

Essentially, Univision got a threat from the lawyer Peter Thiel hired for Hulk Hogan’s case against Gawker Media.

Presumably, Univision decided that rather then slug it out with Thiel’s hired guns, it was easier to comply. (It was about the money; they don’t want to spend it.)

Thiel reminds me of a dystopian SF villain, who uses his vast wealth to fuck with anyone he doesn’t like.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:04:49am

Seeing that Hillary lost ground in the Ipsos polls. This is beyond nerve-wracking.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:05:45am

re: #70 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That fucker needs to get into trouble. At this point, he is doing SLAPP suits.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:06:07am

re: #71 Ziggy_TARDIS

Seeing that Hillary lost ground in the Ipsos polls. This is beyond nerve-wracking.

Don’t worry, young padawan. Polls are nothing compared to the Force — of voting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:07:29am

re: #69 Belafon

Because the phrase “jump the shark” is part of our lexicon, I have explained to my kids where the phrase came from. I have not shown them the scene, though.

‘24’ “jumped the shark” when terrorists nuked LA.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:07:46am

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

New: Donald Trump to propose guaranteeing six weeks of paid maternity leave

But only if you can pay for it.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:08:01am

How did I miss this six months ago?

Don’t say Trump has fat, grandmotherly arms, he hates that

Donald Trump, who has been relentlessly mocked by some of his opponents for his abnormally small hands, is also sensitive to unflattering comments about another part of his body: his arms.

In 1992, radio host Don Imus said on his program that Trump had “fat, grandmotherly arms.” Trump got so upset, he pulled radio ads for his casinos from WFAN, which carried Imus’s signature Imus in the Morning show.

The two Don’s then traded insults through the press.

“You were funnier when you were on drugs and alcohol,” Trump said to Imus in a letter the host read on the air about pulling the ads.

Trump was in the midst of financial woes, heavily in debt after his empire crashed in the early 1990s. Imus took a parting shot at Trump on his finances.

“We only want advertisers who can pay their bills,” Imus told the New York Daily News.

#fatgrandmotherlyarms

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:10:17am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

Other equivalent terms:

Nuke the Fridge - from Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull.
Doing the Trump - GOP nominating Trump as their presidential candidate in 2016.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:10:55am

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I would be more relaxed, but the media is so in the bag for Trump, that I wonder if she can overcome it. Yes, I am still being pessimistic.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:10:56am

The New York Times and Washington Post (or some other group with a large public presence) should announce together that they will accept the medical records of Clinton and Trump and will only release them when both campaigns have supplied them. This is to get around what is about to happen: Clinton will release hers, Trump won’t, and the media will fixate on her records rather than going after Trump for not releasing his.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:12:24am

re: #78 Ziggy_TARDIS

I would be more relaxed, but the media is so in the bag for Trump, that I wonder if she can overcome it. Yes, I am still being pessimistic.

Remember 2012? The Democrats have had to overcome a lot of stuff to get people elected, including racism in 2012.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:13:13am

re: #69 Belafon

I have never seen it until today, laughing my arse off at the sheer campiness.

Aaayyyyyyyy.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:13:36am

re: #80 Belafon

After this election, provided the Democrats win, I have some very ugly and nasty thoughts on what should happen to Trump supporters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:15:19am

re: #82 Ziggy_TARDIS

After this election, provided the Democrats win, I have some very ugly and nasty thoughts on what should happen to Trump supporters.

Nothing.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:16:05am

re: #79 Belafon

The New York Times and Washington Post (or some other group with a large public presence) should announce together that they will accept the medical records of Clinton and Trump and will only release them when both campaigns have supplied them. This is to get around what is about to happen: Clinton will release hers, Trump won’t, and the media will fixate on her records rather than going after Trump for not releasing his.

I think she should follow McCain’s example: Invite a select group of reporters to see her records for a short period in a sealed room. No pictures, no notes, no video, they have to surrender all recording devices at the door. They’re free to read through the records, commit whatever they can to memory, but they can’t keep any record of what they viewed beyond that.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:18:00am

re: #76 makeitstop

How did I miss this six months ago?

Don’t say Trump has fat, grandmotherly arms, he hates that

#fatgrandmotherlyarms

Actually I’m in favor of Hillary just running ads that go something like:

“Here’s Donald Trump on the Issues:”

We’re gonna have the biggest and best issues, replace Obamacare with something fabulous….

contrasted with Hillary’s policy proposals….

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:18:43am

re: #82 Ziggy_TARDIS

After this election, provided the Democrats win, I have some very ugly and nasty thoughts on what should happen to Trump supporters.

I’m thinking improved funding for schools, jobs from infrastructure spending, and improving healthcare. Here’s the deal, dude, you can’t do anything to them that wouldn’t cause problems for others. It’s the reason most religions tell you to turn the other cheek. Yeah, they may not realize they’re benefiting from it, but that’s not my problem. My problem is making sure my kids have a future.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:18:55am

re: #84 Targetpractice

I think she should follow McCain’s example: Invite a select group of reporters to see her records for a short period in a sealed room. No pictures, no notes, no video, they have to surrender all recording devices at the door. They’re free to read through the records, commit whatever they can to memory, but they can’t keep any record of what they viewed beyond that.

Is that what McCain did? The Breitbart Drudges would howl if Hillary only did that.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:20:28am

re: #84 Targetpractice

I think she should follow McCain’s example: Invite a select group of reporters to see her records for a short period in a sealed room. No pictures, no notes, no video, they have to surrender all recording devices at the door. They’re free to read through the records, commit whatever they can to memory, but they can’t keep any record of what they viewed beyond that.

They should announce they’re pulling the McCain maneuver, and then smile when people start asking if she’s going to be crashing airplanes.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:20:34am

re: #76 makeitstop

The early 1990s was when Trump had to shed the Plaza Hotel, which he had bought for way too much money in 1988.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:21:52am

re: #85 Sir John Barron

Actually I’m in favor of Hillary just running ads that go something like:

“Here’s Donald Trump on the Issues:”

We’re gonna have the biggest and best issues, replace Obamacare with something fabulous….

contrasted with Hillary’s policy proposals….

Yeah, I know. I just thought it was kinda funny to have fat, grandmotherly arms to go with his stumpy little hands.

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Lidane  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:23:16am

Compassionate conservatism:

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:24:09am

re: #90 makeitstop

Yeah, I know. I just thought it was kinda funny to have fat, grandmotherly arms to go with his stumpy little hands.

yeah that would work, too.

also Trump is broke a lot. trades in his wives frequently.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:25:03am

re: #91 Lidane

Compassionate conservatism:

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I wonder what share of deplorable Trump voters get or have gotten unemployment insurance? More than 50 I’d say.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:26:06am

re: #93 Sir John Barron

I wonder what share of deplorable Trump voters get or have gotten unemployment insurance? More than 50 I’d say.

Or his campaign workers, FTM.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:26:12am

Good God, I can’t believe how lame the lamestream media is. I was listening to WTOP (a 24/7 news-talk station out of Washington, D.C.) and I had to turn it off when they had John King of CNN on there.

It started with the standard “why won’t Hillary tell the press these important things?!?!?!”. King then proceeded to mock Clinton’s claim that she has been more forthright and transparent than Trump. “Maybe she should hold herself to a higher standard.”

HOW ABOUT YOU HOLD DONALD TRUMP TO ANY FUCKING STANDARD?!

The the WTOP talking head asked some stupid fucking questions like, “Clinton has been sticking to fundraisers, does her getting sick now, with the debates coming up and heavy campaign coming, hurt her more?”

Really, do you asshats bother to research your questions before asking them? Have you been missing her dozens of campaign stops, full of people, every week?

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:26:24am

re: #91 Lidane

Compassionate conservatism:

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It’s crap like this that caused my wife to first abandon the Republican Party in favour of the Libertarian Party after President Reagan’s term, and now abandon the Libertarian Party in favour of the Democratic Party in this election cycle.

Yup, there’s a lot she doesn’t like about the Democratic Party and some of its candidates. But she is of the opinion she doesn’t have to like a candidate to support the candidate’s positions.

After she mailed off her registration card back in January changing her party, I just told her “welcome home.” (Swat.)

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:27:58am

re: #87 Sir John Barron

Is that what McCain did? The Breitbart Drudges would howl if Hillary only did that.

Basically the same thing. Put a handpicked group of reporters in a room with 8 years (1,170+ pages) of medical records with a 3 hour time limit, no cellphones or internet access. And the pages were not allowed to leave the room, so no running down the hallway to make photocopies of particular ones. Whatever notes they could make in 3 hours was all that could leave the room.

If the Clinton campaign proposed such a thing today, you can be sure that the press would lose their minds.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:28:27am

re: #45 lawhawk

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What’s effectively a press release for a hobgoblin of hate is touted as news on Drudge.

upding for ‘hobgoblin of hate’.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:29:20am

re: #86 Belafon

True, and I know the future is what needs to be worried about.

I am upset that they have threatened, injured, and even killed people. And made me worry about the safety of loved ones.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:29:47am

re: #92 Sir John Barron

yeah that would work, too.

also Trump is broke a lot. trades in his wives frequently.

Mind you, I’m not saying that Trump has fat, grandmotherly arms. I would not say that.

But many people are saying that he’s got fat, grandmotherly arms. Many, many people, believe me.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:29:51am

OFFS.

Reply

Trump’s going to have his medical records released to Dr. Oz? The same guy who’s promoted all kinds of quack and nonsensical medical advice on his show?

But if Clinton did that, there’d be such a hue and cry that she didn’t get the Head of Surgery and every leading doctor from every specialty under the sun to give her a clean bill of health. Or they’ll attack her doctor’s credentials, even though Trump’s the one whose doctor has the bogus credentials and wrote perhaps the most ridiculous letter on health of all time.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:30:12am

re: #95 Timothy Watson

Good God, I can’t believe how lame the lamestream media is. I was listening to WTOP (a 24/7 news-talk station out of Washington, D.C.) and I had to turn it off when they had John King of CNN on there.

It started with the standard “why won’t Hillary tell the press these important things?!?!?!”. King then proceeded to mock Clinton’s claim that she has been more forthright and transparent than Trump. “Maybe she should hold herself to a higher standard.”

HOW ABOUT YOU HOLD DONALD TRUMP TO ANY FUCKING STANDARD?!

The the WTOP talking head asked some stupid fucking questions like, “Clinton has been sticking to fundraisers, does her getting sick now, with the debates coming up and heavy campaign coming, hurt her more?”

Really, do you asshats bother to research your questions before asking them? Have you been missing her dozens of campaign stops, full of people, every week?

WTOP is the worst…

Well, maybe not the worst, but like Politico without the occasional insightfulness.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:30:20am

re: #95 Timothy Watson

This is the reason I am so worried. The media wants Trump to win.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:31:20am

re: #101 lawhawk

OFFS.

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Trump’s going to have his medical records released to Dr. Oz? The same guy who’s promoted all kinds of quack and nonsensical medical advice on his show?

But if Clinton did that, there’d be such a hue and cry that she didn’t get the Head of Surgery and every leading doctor from every specialty under the sun to give her a clean bill of health. Or they’ll attack her doctor’s credentials, even though Trump’s the one whose doctor has the bogus credentials and wrote perhaps the most ridiculous letter on health of all time.

So they went from Dr. Feelgood to Dr. Fraud. Yegods. As if we needed more evidence that this election has become a damned SNL skit.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:31:43am

re: #100 makeitstop

Mind you, I’m not saying that Trump has fat, grandmotherly arms. I would not say that.

But many people are saying that he’s got fat, grandmotherly arms. Many, many people, believe me.

He always wears suits. Must be he’s embarrassed of his fat, grandmotherly arms. I’m not saying that’s why he wears suit jackets all the time. But many, many people are saying he always wears suit jackets to hide his fat, grandmotherly arms.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:33:50am

re: #45 lawhawk

Lesbian Hate Crime Hoaxes’

Possible band names for $300, Alex

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:36:26am

Hillary is being held to a standard even above what past male candidates would be expected, while Trump’s being held to absolutely no standard because “he’s not a politician.”

But “Both Sides,” dontchaknow.

BRING ON THE METEORS!

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:36:43am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:38:54am

re: #102 Sir John Barron

WTOP is the worst…

Well, maybe not the worst, but like Politico without the occasional insightfulness.

They, on occasion, do ask a decent question of a politician. And some of their correspondents (national security guy, can’t think of name) are interesting.

I do rank them higher than the local D.C. news anchors at least. But that’s not saying much.

Speaking of local D.C. news, a week before the New York Democratic Primary, one of the local D.C. news anchors went off the teleprompter (you can usually tell because they stammer and stutter like an idiot) and made some really stupid comment about how the Democratic nomination race was “going to tighten in the coming weeks.” Right, with Clinton up 20+ points in New York, it’s really going to tighten.

And I am sitting watching the broadcast thinking if I got a Communications degree from Syracuse (and didn’t have the face for radio) I could be on TV, making more than $100,000, giving the most idiotic political commentary in the world.

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:39:09am

re: #101 lawhawk

OFFS.

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Trump’s going to have his medical records released to Dr. Oz? The same guy who’s promoted all kinds of quack and nonsensical medical advice on his show?

But if Clinton did that, there’d be such a hue and cry that she didn’t get the Head of Surgery and every leading doctor from every specialty under the sun to give her a clean bill of health. Or they’ll attack her doctor’s credentials, even though Trump’s the one whose doctor has the bogus credentials and wrote perhaps the most ridiculous letter on health of all time.

Dr. Dre turned him down.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:39:54am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

‘24’ “jumped the shark” when terrorists nuked LA.

For people in LA, much sooner than that. In season 1, when Jack Bauer made it from Eagle Rock to San Pedro (by car) in 35 minutes? HA HA HA HA HA!!!

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:40:19am

re: #108 darthstar

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Just curious, why would someone use a mangled link that is longer than the original link?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:44:06am

re: #109 Timothy Watson

Yeah I don’t think I’ve heard them not echo whatever the latest conventional wisdom is on anything. Don’t listen to much anymore beyond the weather and traffic reports.

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:44:07am

re: #112 Belafon

Just curious, why would someone use a mangled link that is longer than the original link?

That’s twitter’s efficient link management feature.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:45:10am

I really want to scream at a reporter right now.

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:45:11am

re: #112 Belafon

Just curious, why would someone use a mangled link that is longer than the original link?

Usually, that garbled t.co link would be shorter. Good catch though. Wasted bytes.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:46:15am

re: #101 lawhawk

OFFS.

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Trump’s going to have his medical records released to Dr. Oz? The same guy who’s promoted all kinds of quack and nonsensical medical advice on his show?

But if Clinton did that, there’d be such a hue and cry that she didn’t get the Head of Surgery and every leading doctor from every specialty under the sun to give her a clean bill of health. Or they’ll attack her doctor’s credentials, even though Trump’s the one whose doctor has the bogus credentials and wrote perhaps the most ridiculous letter on health of all time.

This shitshow just gets worse every single day. We are a laughingstock to the rest of the world.

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:46:31am

re: #115 Ziggy_TARDIS

I really want to scream at a reporter right now.

Good luck finding one. Mostly stenographers left anymore.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:47:33am

re: #118 darthstar

They will do too.

I have done that on Twitter, but most are puffed up and arrogant.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:47:37am

re: #112 Belafon

Just curious, why would someone use a mangled link that is longer than the original link?

IIRC, t.co isn’t just a link shortener — it also is a “first line” of defense against predatory sites/malware.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:49:08am

re: #99 Ziggy_TARDIS

True, and I know the future is what needs to be worried about.

I am upset that they have threatened, injured, and even killed people. And made me worry about the safety of loved ones.

That is nothing new in the realm of American politics: Youth for Wallace became the neo-Nazi National Alliance.

As the most lefty person in my county, a regular writer to my local newspaper on political issues, and very open about it (and dayum there are more Trump signs than cattle here), I am not particularly concerned.

Not too long after I moved here, one of my neighbours (the gun shop owner) ranted on about “liberals wanting to take everyone’s guns.” I pointed out liberals don’t need your guns we have our own, thanks.

My wife (then still a Libertarian) noted if Democrats were really “redistribuionist Marxists” (as he also claimed), then they would take all the guns from people who have a bunch of them and give them to people who don’t.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:51:22am

So here comes the next company to do a Pharma Bro.

Horizon Pharma will spend about $800 million to buy Novato’s
Raptor Pharmaceutical and expand its portfolio of rare disease treatments, a growing area of focus for drugmakers. The Ireland drug developer said Monday that the deal will strengthen its business in the United States. Raptor’s portfolio includes Procysbi, which treats a rare metabolic disorder, and Quinsair, approved for managing a chronic pulmonary infection in adult patients with cystic fibrosis. Horizon expects to close the deal this year.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:51:32am

re: #110 darthstar

Dr. Demento couldn’t be reached for comment.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:52:28am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:52:51am

Worth the watch….

Facebook Video

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:55:28am
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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:57:15am

re: #120 A wild WITHAK appeared!

IIRC, t.co isn’t just a link shortener — it also is a “first line” of defense against predatory sites/malware.

Yep…it’s twitter’s way of sandboxing. I’m in the middle of a couple of security POCs at my present job…encrypting data, trapping traffic. It’s all kind of fun.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:57:27am

re: #126 darthstar

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 13, 2016 • 6:57:35am

re: #126 darthstar

Urine sample please…

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:02:55am

Senator Ted Cruz (R-Derp) threatening to shut down the government again just before the elections, over the long-standing arrangement to transfer the DNS system to ICANN.

cnet.com

He claims the transfer would permit foreign actors to upset “our” Internet.

Please proceed Senator. Shutting down the government weeks before the election would look very good for the Republican Party.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:03:23am

re: #108 darthstar

I like that he pinpointed when North American Pokémon went extinct, at approximately 9000 BC.

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:04:07am

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

Urine sample please…

Sorry…I just went.

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:05:16am
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darthstar  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:06:52am

A grown woman, walking…something must be wrong.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:10:03am

A different C|Net article caught my eye:

Eyeo, the company that makes AdBlock Plus, is to start selling advertising for distribution on AdBlock Plus.

cnet.com

The ads will be visible by users who have elected to “allow non-intrusive ads to support their favorite websites”, the company said in a press release.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:10:58am

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

It’s an interesting story. Seems that giving local people a say in their local governance encourages them to question provincial and national leadership, which for the Chinese Communist Party is tantamount to insurrection. There was some scandal about illegal land grabs by officials in Wukan. As part of the process to restore faith in the government, the Party allowed the villagers to elect their village chief. Then I guess the village got a little too independent minded. After arresting Wukan’s elected chief, the authorities charged with (presumably) trumped up charges and coerced a confession out of him. The townspeople mounted public protests in support of the mayor. Then, the authorities sent in the police to terrorize and arrest anyone suspected of participating in the protests. Now, the villagers are trying to expel the police.

Give them an inch, and they’ll take a mile. //

Despite government attempts to suppress information about the Wukan protests, news is still getting out on social media (and just as swiftly deleted by censors). The BBC has been following the story, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:12:14am

re: #78 Ziggy_TARDIS

I would be more relaxed, but the media is so in the bag for Trump, that I wonder if she can overcome it. Yes, I am still being pessimistic.

I have resigned myself to the Coming of the Idiocracy. We might stave it off for one or two more elections, but we have seen that there are positions that once would have sunk any candidate but have only propelled DT to the lead in the GOP.

And even if he loses, he will found a media empire whose goal it will be to bring a like-minded candidate forth for the next election.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:13:24am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is no place in the world for me if Trump wins. :’(

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:14:26am

re: #134 darthstar

A grown woman, walking…something must be wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:14:40am

re: #103 Ziggy_TARDIS

This is the reason I am so worried. The media wants Trump to win.

They don’t necessarily want him to win, they just want a neck-and-neck race, and the only way to maintain that is to run down Hillary while pumping up Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:15:34am

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks for the background

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:16:35am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is why I go to a counselor. Because that makes me viciously angry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:18:01am

re: #142 Ziggy_TARDIS

This is why I go to a counselor. Because that makes me viciously angry.

It is some seriously sick shit. Mostly the way that extremism has come to be mainstreamed and viewpoints are being discussed as if they had any merit at all, and in a matter-of-fact way.

They have laid the groundwork for The Idiocracy. It will be upon us soon.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:19:32am

re: #91 Lidane

Compassionate conservatism:

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:19:42am

re: #133 darthstar

Did he mean this?

re: #134 darthstar

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:21:08am

re: #141 FormerDirtDart

Thanks for the background

Pleasure. China is a long, long way from having a democratic government of any kind. The Party, despite Xi Jinping’s show of eliminating corruption, will not cede control willingly, because being a Party official means money and power. It’s the worldwide phenomenon of politicians and business people working hand in hand to amass great wealth while fucking over the common people. As long as the common people are reasonably happy with their lives, they will put up with government corruption and suppression. But if the Chinese economy goes sour, and people lose jobs and ready access to a middle class life, watch out. The Party will be in deep trouble.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:21:46am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is some seriously sick shit. Mostly the way that extremism has come to be mainstreamed and viewpoints are being discussed as if they had any merit at all, and in a matter-of-fact way.

They have laid the groundwork for The Idiocracy. It will be upon us soon.

Or they are laying the groundwork for its demise.

Like North Carolina and its ridiculous “bathroom papers please” bill. More and more companies are looking at North Carolina and saying “Nope.” The NBA and the NCAA also said “Nope.” The GOP there is screaming about “political correctness” from these organisations and companies, but what it really is, is capitalism.

While my state is very conservative (Nebraska), our conservatives are constrained in what they do, since we sit on top of a first-class tyre fire (Kansas).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:21:48am

re: #144 Tigger2

per Trump campaign briefing, proposed 6-week paid maternity leave benefit would be financed through cuts in unemployment insurance

smart son of a bitch…turn conflicting interest groups on each other…in the spirit of “immigrants are taking our jobs!”

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:23:50am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

smart son of a bitch…turn conflicting interest groups on each other…in the spirit of “immigrants are taking our jobs!”

I am sure women taking maternity leave would love to have their unemployment insurance cut. Looks like another line of attack on Mr. Trump by Mrs. Clinton.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:24:37am

re: #147 Anymouse

Or they are laying the groundwork for its demise.

I fear that Teh Stoopid has reached a certain critical mass from which it will be hard to recover. And the media have also been racing each other to the bottom to keep up with Teh Stoopid and are compounding the momentum.

And even with the NCAA pulling out, the conservatives in NC will just dig in their heels and squeal and insist that they are persecuted martyrs trying to save America’s athletic anuses from predatory Gay Rape.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:25:10am

re: #147 Anymouse

I’m pessimistic, because of the media.

We have fallen into the Bond Film Tomorrow Never Dies.

And the entire media is acting like this. Damn the consequences, which will be many people dead, and brutalized minorities, they want those eyeballs to screens, and advertising dollars.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:30:09am

Oh Kellyanne.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:35:44am

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Oh Kellyanne.

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We all know badgering only happens to Trump.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:39:53am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I fear that Teh Stoopid has reached a certain critical mass from which it will be hard to recover. And the media have also been racing each other to the bottom to keep up with Teh Stoopid and are compounding the momentum.

And even with the NCAA pulling out, the conservatives in NC will just dig in their heels and squeal and insist that they are persecuted martyrs trying to save America’s athletic anuses from predatory Gay Rape.

My wife was looking to buy cutting boards from a seller on Etsy.

She found what she liked, then asked the seller where she was. Turned out that was North Carolina. Brief E-mail conversation showed the woman supported the HB-2 law.

She told her she liked the product, but she would search elsewhere. She did not want her money supporting bigotry. She found what she was looking for from a California seller instead.

They can complain all they want about damn PC, and if they want to drive themselves into poverty I suppose that is their right. (It’s also our right to spend our money where we want.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:40:13am

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Oh Kellyanne.

Is it “generosity” to hire contractors, then declare bankruptcy and pay them off at pennies on the dollar?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:41:06am

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Oh Kellyanne.

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LEAVE DONALD TRUMP ALOOOOOOOOOOOONEE

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:41:25am

re: #154 Anymouse

My wife was looking to buy cutting boards from a seller on Etsy.

She found what she liked, then asked the seller where she was. Turned out that was North Carolina.

She told her she liked the product, but she would search elsewhere. She did not want her money supporting bigotry. She found what she was looking for from a California seller instead.

They can complain all they want about damn PC, and if they want to drive themselves into poverty I suppose that is their right. (It’s also our right to spend our money where we want.)

Was there any evidence that this particular vendor supported the anti-gay legislation?

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:42:11am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I edited the post above to note my wife specifically asked her about that. Sorry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:42:38am

re: #158 Anymouse

Yes, I edited the post above to note my wife specifically asked her about that. Sorry.

aha. that is important

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:43:01am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is it generosity to hire companies, including law firms to do contracted for work, and then argue that they should be paid less, even though Trump says that the work met specifications?

Is it generosity to talk about jobs in America, while Trump went and made his clothing line overseas instead of having US workers making his clothes?

No, it’s greed and avarice. It’s the Trump guiding principle.

He could have had his clothes made here - he was claiming it was a premium line, so he could charge a premium for it. Instead, he went overseas to get them made for less, and then still charged a premium. He pocketed the difference.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:43:37am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

aha. that is important

Yeah, that was kind of the point (that I left out originally).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:45:41am

re: #160 lawhawk

He could have had his clothes made here - he was claiming it was a premium line, so he could charge a premium for it. Instead, he went overseas to get them made for less, and then still charged a premium. He pocketed the difference.

Capitalism is about pocketing the difference. Also the difference between the price of manufacturing an item and the costs related to disposing of the item or the environmental and health costs relating to its manufacture.

Privatize the profit, socialize the cost. The best of both worlds when you let the foxes run the hen house in the name of “deregulated markets”

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:46:10am

re: #125 Dave In Austin

Worth the watch….

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That was great!!

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:47:16am

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Oh Kellyanne.

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I gotta say she’s a perfect match for that campaign. Just bitter and nasty.

I guess being on the losing end of just about every campaign you’ve ever run will do that to you.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:52:10am

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Oh Kellyanne.

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DONALD TRUMP IS SO KIND AND GENEROUS SHUT UP YOU MEAN MEDIA!!!!!

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scottslemmons  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:54:12am

re: #165 Sir John Barron

DONALD TRUMP IS SO KIND AND GENEROUS SHUT UP YOU MEAN MEDIA!!!!!

Yes, but…

MEDIA: “Oh god, we’re sorry, Kellyanne, we won’t let it happen ever again. We don’t want to anger President Trump…”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:54:55am

re: #165 Sir John Barron

DONALD TRUMP IS SO KIND AND GENEROUS SHUT UP YOU MEAN MEDIA!!!!!

Trump would stiff his supporters in a heartbeat if it meant any kind of profit for him personally.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:55:14am

New Clinton ad - ‘Low Opinion.’

Low Opinion | Hillary Clinton

Pretty good ad, as usual.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:56:16am

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Bevin needs to be charged with sedition and encouraging insurrection.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:57:26am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

Bevin needs to be charged with sedition and encouraging insurrection.

Bevin needs to be put in a timeout.

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Interesting Times  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:58:09am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

Bevin needs to be charged with sedition and encouraging insurrection.

On the contrary, he’s now the GOP frontrunner for 2020 (along with LePage of Maine)

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:58:40am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

Bevin needs to be charged with sedition and encouraging insurrection.

Hillary could run a whole series of ads based on that basket of horribles called the Values Voters Conference.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:58:44am

re: #168 makeitstop

New Clinton ad - ‘Low Opinion.’

Pretty good ad, as usual.

I questioned the tactics of HRC coming out against Trump supporters, but I see what the long game is now…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:00:09am

re: #166 scottslemmons

That is what is likely to happen.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:00:19am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

Bevin needs to be charged with sedition and encouraging insurrection.

In that speech Bevin also managed to be homophobic and denigrated Native American religious beliefs, so he hit a lot of low notes. What I find ironic is that Bevin doesn’t understand that in a civil war between white nationalists and the rest of us, his side would view Bevin’s adopted children who are immigrants from Africa as the enemy.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:00:27am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I questioned the tactics of HRC coming out against Trump supporters, but I see what the long game is now…

Yeah I would have preferred not to, as his supporters can easily twist it to mean Hillary’s criticizing such “good and patriotic and hard-working Americans.” But we are where we are, and some of his supporters are pretty eager to show how awful they are.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:01:54am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that wasn’t actually what she was doing in that speech at the fundraiser, she was actually drawing attention to the economic circumstances many people face, people who feel they’ve been left behind. But that part of the speech has gotten short thrift, and I can kind of understand why, but pundits should at least acknowledge it.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:02:24am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I questioned the tactics of HRC coming out against Trump supporters, but I see what the long game is now…

Right. They get to spend the rest of the campaign explaining that they’re not racist scum.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:03:58am

CNN just now reporting: BREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For the first time since 2007, median incomes go up.

Thanks Obama.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:03:59am

re: #178 makeitstop

Right. They get to spend the rest of the campaign explaining that they’re not racist scum.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing.

When it should be obvious to people and to the media that they are truly deplorable, anything but patriotic, and at best just pathetic.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:04:01am

re: #178 makeitstop

Right. They get to spend the rest of the campaign explaining that they’re not racist scum.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing.

And she needs to be on the offensive in some way, but the focus should be as far as possible on who Trump has hired to run his campaign and the shitty things Trump himself has said and done, which is plenty.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:04:08am

re: #178 makeitstop

Right. They get to spend the rest of the campaign explaining that they’re not racist scum.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing.

Which, oddly, they aren’t doing.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:04:28am

re: #179 GlutenFreeJesus

CNN just now reporting: BREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For the first time since 2007, median incomes go up.

Thanks Obama.

Only Trump alone can fix.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:04:51am

re: #66 lawhawk

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What the hell is wrong with mandatory maternity leave? They already have it in other developed countries like Canada (one full year). Rightwingers should love the baby as much as they claim to love the fetus.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:06:03am

re: #181 Sir John Barron

And she needs to be on the offensive in some way, but the focus should be as far as possible on who Trump has hired to run his campaign and the shitty things Trump himself has said and done, which is plenty.

But conservatives have often complained at various times about the danger posed by The Mob, envious ingrates who hate the rich, etc, so Hillary can use this opportunity to make that case re: Trump’s own mob mentality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:06:15am

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

What the hell is wrong with mandatory maternity leave? They already have it in other developed countries like Canada (one full year). Rightwingers should love the baby as much as they claim to love the fetus.

Women should be at home as full-time mothers. Of course, that involves having a husband who earns enough at his job to support a family.

But if we keep giving more tax breaks to Job Creators, they will certainly see clear to that, right?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:06:15am

re: #178 makeitstop

Pence: Oh, that David Duke guy? Oh. Well. I don’t do the name calling thing. Next question please.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:09:30am

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

What the hell is wrong with mandatory maternity leave? They already have it in other developed countries like Canada (one full year). Rightwingers should love the baby as much as they claim to love the fetus.

Once its born, its just another taker, unless its parents are at least multi-millionaires, then its a potential donor to be cherished.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:09:31am

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

Or laws about vacation time? Most of the developede world has them, and Taft 100 years ago thought the optimum amount of vacation time per year was 3 months.

I’m not sure his thoughts are correct (The Scandinaivans are the most generous, with 2 months), but we should come up to standards here.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:11:05am

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

What the hell is wrong with mandatory maternity leave? They already have it in other developed countries like Canada (one full year). Rightwingers should love the baby as much as they claim to love the fetus.

My daughter got 6 weeks leave from her company, so baby began child care at 4 months of age. They are not in the financial position now for my daughter to be a stay-at-home mom, and she’s slowly been working her way up the ranks at her workplace, so she’d like to stay there a while.

Chinese moms get a full year of leave, in comparison.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:11:35am

Very interesting tweetstorm from Justin Wolfers:

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:11:46am

re: #82 Ziggy_TARDIS

After this election, provided the Democrats win, I have some very ugly and nasty thoughts on what should happen to Trump supporters.

Them having to deal with a huge loss will be punishment enough for them. Believe me!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:12:38am

re: #189 Ziggy_TARDIS

Or laws about vacation time? Most of the developede world has them, and Taft 100 years ago thought the optimum amount of vacation time per year was 3 months.

I’m not sure his thoughts are correct (The Scandinaivans are the most generous, with 2 months), but we should come up to standards here.

Most Europeans get a month of vacation, which may explain why so many tour China for extended periods of time.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:13:37am

re: #193 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m always amazed by the number of Asians and Europeans who visit the national parks. And the lack of American kids. The NPS has noticed this too.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:15:18am

re: #190 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My daughter got 6 weeks leave from her company, so baby began child care at 4 months of age. They are not in the financial position now for my daughter to be a stay-at-home mom, and she’s slowly been working her way up the ranks at her workplace, so she’d like to stay there a while.

Chinese moms get a full year of leave, in comparison.

Italy has a rational scheme—6 months full pay, declining pay each month until 13 mos.
(Valid when we left in 1991.)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:16:38am

re: #193 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s why I am a bit skeptical about Taft’s idea about 3 months of vacation time. At some point, one would get bored/ run out of things to do. You could not keep travelling the whole time, that would do terrible things to the bank account.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:18:39am

re: #194 lawhawk

I’m always amazed by the number of Asians and Europeans who visit the national parks. And the lack of American kids. The NPS has noticed this too.

I have friends here who have told me they don’t care about LA or NYC, because they’re city people. They want to see the great outdoors, and the low cost of our national parks are a big draw. Who can blame them?

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:18:52am

re: #191 lawhawk

Very interesting tweetstorm from Justin Wolfers:

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allegro  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:19:30am

Yesterday morning I slipped in a mud puddle and fell. This morning in my still-not-quite-awake-stupor I bobbled the coffee grinder. That’s when it hit me: I can never be President of the US. Took me all these decades to become aware of the really important qualities it takes to be POTUS.

Dr. Oz will be the arbiter of health? Calling Jerry Springer to host the debates. Shouldn’t there be a dance off on DWS too? How ‘bout chair throwing with Geraldo? Can either candidate Beat Bobby Flay?

I can’t even call this snark or hyperbole at this point so no /.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:19:39am

re: #191 lawhawk

Very interesting tweetstorm from Justin Wolfers:

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The last reply is gold.

Don’t trust the government report!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:20:57am

re: #191 lawhawk

Very interesting tweetstorm from Justin Wolfers:

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Skewed!!!!!!!

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:22:12am

re: #197 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Mrs. and I are City folk, and we are always hunting for the next national park to visit. Looks like we might head to the New Mexico region next.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:27:57am

re: #202 lawhawk

The Mrs. and I are City folk, and we are always hunting for the next national park to visit. Looks like we might head to the New Mexico region next.

After reading about Mesa Verde, I really want to go there. And I still have not seen the Grand Canyon, which is embarrassing when my Chinese friends show me photos of their visits there.

In fact, the entire Southwest is virgin territory for me. I need to correct this fault ASAP.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:29:01am

re: #202 lawhawk

The Mrs. and I are City folk, and we are always hunting for the next national park to visit. Looks like we might head to the New Mexico region next.

The wife and I are on vacation starting tomorrow! We enjoy hiking and visiting parks in our spare time, but we’re big into metropolitan areas for vacation.

We’re hopping the Orient Point Ferry and breaking north for a few days in Boston. Then three days after we’re back, I’m flying solo to LA for a few days to hang with a dear old friend.

My camera is about to get the workout of its life. :)

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scottslemmons  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:30:37am

re: #202 lawhawk

The Mrs. and I are City folk, and we are always hunting for the next national park to visit. Looks like we might head to the New Mexico region next.

I love New Mexico so dadgum much, and I hardly ever get to go there anymore. We used to spend almost every summer vacation in the Sacramento Mountains in the southern region of the state, and I’ve never gotten over how beautiful that part of the world was…

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:31:25am

Fahrenthold On The Last Word talking about Trumps Charity donations.

msnbc.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:32:19am

re: #192 Patricia Kayden

Them having to deal with a huge loss will be punishment enough for them. Believe me!

No, they will have a great time blaming it on the Democrats for manipulating the outcome.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:34:42am

re: #205 scottslemmons

I love New Mexico so dadgum much, and I hardly ever get to go there anymore. We used to spend almost every summer vacation in the Sacramento Mountains in the southern region of the state, and I’ve never gotten over how beautiful that part of the world was…

And the Chiracauha Mountains on the Arizona-Mexico-New Mexico border. God’s own country, no doubt…

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Snarknado!  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:43:25am

re: #202 lawhawk

The Mrs. and I are City folk, and we are always hunting for the next national park to visit. Looks like we might head to the New Mexico region next.

I’ve been traveling much farther afield, since there are things I want to do while still ambulatory, but I hope to visit Death Valley and Nevada attractions around Las Vegas in December. (I’ve been to Grand Canyon and Zion National Park — also Hoover Dam — but that’s about all in the southwest.)

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:50:02am

re: #178 makeitstop

Right. They get to spend the rest of the campaign explaining that they’re not racist scum.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing.

And so far, like Gov. Pence, they are explaining they are racists… .

Sec’y Clinton and her campaign staff are not dummies. She handed Mr. Trump’s floundering campaign an anchor, and they took it.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:51:53am

re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

After reading about Mesa Verde, I really want to go there. And I still have not seen the Grand Canyon, which is embarrassing when my Chinese friends show me photos of their visits there.

In fact, the entire Southwest is virgin territory for me. I need to correct this fault ASAP.

I haven’t been to Arizona, the rest of the Southwest at least a little bit.

My wife and I are correcting our lack of travel to the Northwest (British Columbia, Alberta, Yukon).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:52:04am

re: #210 Anymouse

And so far, like Gov. Pence, they are explaining they are racists… .

Sec’y Clinton and her campaign staff are not dummies. She handed Mr. Trump’s floundering campaign an anchor, and they took it.

They are digging in and explaining that they are “racial realists” and defending their “heritage”.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:52:17am

re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

After reading about Mesa Verde, I really want to go there. And I still have not seen the Grand Canyon, which is embarrassing when my Chinese friends show me photos of their visits there.

In fact, the entire Southwest is virgin territory for me. I need to correct this fault ASAP.

My dream trip is closer to your locale — the panda sanctuary at Oolong.

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allegro  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:54:53am

re: #213 sagehen

My dream trip is closer to your locale — the panda sanctuary at Oolong.

Mine is to swim with the porpoises in Australia.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:54:56am

While the minimum area (defined in various ways) of the Arctic sea ice may have hit its low, the melting continues. A significant portion of the thick ice on the north side of the Canadian archipelago has melted before or after being pushed down through the channels southward:

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:55:37am

re: #202 lawhawk

The Mrs. and I are City folk, and we are always hunting for the next national park to visit. Looks like we might head to the New Mexico region next.

If you come by here, stop in and say hi.

We have a couple national monuments (Chimney Rock and Scott’s Bluff).

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:55:41am

re: #210 Anymouse

And so far, like Gov. Pence, they are explaining they are racists… .

Sec’y Clinton and her campaign staff are not dummies. She handed Mr. Trump’s floundering campaign an anchor, and they took it.

Sure did. And they’re so conditioned to take the ‘anti-Hillary’ stance in any circumstance, it was only natural that they’d end up defending what Clinton was pointing out.

It was like she built a roaring bonfire and then told them not to jump in. And naturally, they all lined up to jump head first just to ‘show her.’

It’s almost too easy to bait them nowadays. Just lay out that bait and watch them fight to see who swallows the hook first.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:55:49am

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

What the hell is wrong with mandatory maternity leave? They already have it in other developed countries like Canada (one full year). Rightwingers should love the baby as much as they claim to love the fetus.

Once it’s hatched, it’s irrelevant in their mind until they can death penalty it.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:56:10am

re: #210 Anymouse

I still think the media will run cover for them. I will believe that this will work when I see it.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:58:41am

re: #219 Ziggy_TARDIS

I still think the media will run cover for them. I will believe that this will work when I see it.

We’ll have to see … while Mr. Trump’s rise has been good for ratings, with all the things coming out from questionable donations for AG candidates to attacks on a Gold Star Family to violence at rallies continuing … tearing down a candidate would be good for the 24/7 news cycle as well.

Cash in on both ends.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 13, 2016 • 8:58:42am

re: #196 Ziggy_TARDIS

That’s why I am a bit skeptical about Taft’s idea about 3 months of vacation time. At some point, one would get bored/ run out of things to do. You could not keep travelling the whole time, that would do terrible things to the bank account.

Speak for yourself. I have plenty of other things to keep me quite occupied.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:03:10am

re: #221 Le Lapin Tueur

Speak for yourself. I have plenty of other things to keep me quite occupied.

two months in the summer (July and august, one for home repairs and maintenance, one for travelling), two weeks at Easter and Two weeks at Christmas (for family)

solved.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:03:22am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, they will have a great time blaming it on the Democrats for manipulating the outcome.

Doesn’t matter. They will have still lost. That’s all that matters. My only worry is that Secretary Clinton will win the White House but the Republicans will retain the Senate. That would mean that essentially nothing gets done since Republican Senators will sit on their hands and obstruct.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:05:23am

This year’s extent (as defined by greater than 15% ice coverage) is not quite as low as the record in 2012, but that is because in 2012 winds had blown a lot of ice from the western Arctic sea up against the archipelago.

2012 on this calendar date:

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Last year on this date:

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Today:

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:06:44am

DJIA

-240

Get ready for some good deals tomorrow.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:07:04am

re: #222 Anymouse

I have yet to watch her show, but every time I see a clip, it looks great. Glad she’s found success on her own news show.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:08:04am

re: #225 freetoken

This year’s extent (as defined by greater than 15% ice coverage) is not quite as low as the record in 2012, but that is because in 2012 winds had blown a lot of ice from the western Arctic sea up against the archipelago.

Don’t forget that the ice shield is also losing thickness

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:10:54am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget that the ice shield is also losing thickness

Which has fundamentally greater implications.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:12:21am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget that the ice shield is also losing thickness

That is why it is being broken up so quickly by the wind and waves.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:13:14am

Part two tears apart both the news media’s magic balance fairy argument and Donald Trump.

Ms. Bee notes that calling a liar a liar is not an opinion if you have the facts that he is.

She spares none of the cable networks, she pretty much went after all of them:

DIY Election Coverage (Act 2, Part 2) | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:15:31am

re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

After reading about Mesa Verde, I really want to go there. And I still have not seen the Grand Canyon, which is embarrassing when my Chinese friends show me photos of their visits there.

In fact, the entire Southwest is virgin territory for me. I need to correct this fault ASAP.

I have a friend who is teaching in China. You’re obviously not him because he was born and raised here and has ridden his bike all over it.

/bikes not allowed in the Grand Canyon, or he’d have done that too.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:17:21am

re: #218 Le Lapin Tueur

Once it’s hatched, it’s irrelevant in their mind until they can death penalty it.

Don’t be silly. Where would they get cannon fodder if they’re death penalty-ing it before they can use it to kill foreigners who are too brown, or worship the wrong god, or have more oil than foreign wrong-god-worshipping brown people should be allowed to have?

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:27:38am

re: #233 sagehen

Don’t be silly. Where would they get cannon fodder if they’re death penalty-ing it before they can use it to kill foreigners who are too brown, or worship the wrong god, or have more oil than foreign wrong-god-worshipping brown people should be allowed to have?

Depends if it a Federal politician or a state one; our governor paid out of his own pocket to put reinstating the death penalty on the state ballot this year after the Unicameral repealed it and overrode his veto.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:27:44am

re: #233 sagehen

Don’t be silly. Where would they get cannon fodder if they’re death penalty-ing it before they can use it to kill foreigners who are too brown, or worship the wrong god, or have more oil than foreign wrong-god-worshipping brown people should be allowed to have?

And how are they keep convincing people to take lower and lower wages if the population doesn’t grow?

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retired cynic  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:31:25am

Boy, Rude has a good one this morning: A Child’s Guide to Understanding the Basket of Deplorables!

rudepundit.blogspot.com

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:35:53am
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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:36:10am

Tony Perkins on Stewart Varney’s show, (the guy who loved Uganda’s kill the gays bill) complaining liberals are narrow minded (over Hillary Clinton’s basket of deplorables remark). Wonkette on the job:

wonkette.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:36:41am

Watch as wingnuts lose their shit over this==>

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(Don’t worry, they always find their shit & lose it all over again)

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:38:00am

I know some people don’t like Keith Olbermann but this is an awesome summation on Trump.

thescene.com

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:38:35am
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No, no misogyny there. Nope. Move along. What the heck are the female reporters thinking when they hear this crap?

We need a man?
We need a man who’s absolutely incoherent and can’t even keep his own position on an issue for more than a few minutes before forgetting what he just said.
We need a man who’s never held elected office and doesn’t know the first thing about the powers of the presidency?
We need a man who’s idea of profit is to sue and litigate to increase his own profits by shorting those who contracted with him?
We need a man who constantly does outreach to white supremacists and dog whistles on a regular basis (and whose surrogates are even more extreme)?

We need a man?

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:38:47am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

Watch as wingnuts lose their shit over this==>

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(Don’t worry, they always find their shit & lose it all over again)

See! I told you she was born in Kenya! And she’s such a secret Muslim she doesn’t even wear the hijoobie thing!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:42:02am

re: #213 sagehen

My dream trip is closer to your locale — the panda sanctuary at Oolong.

The one in Chengdu, Sichuan, is also good, but don’t go in the summer. The pandas stay inside air conditioned pens, though the red pandas are out in the trees and grounds.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:44:39am
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Hypocrisy. Sheer fucking hypocrisy.

Trump’s letter was a POS concocted by a Dr. Okun standin (and I’m not sure Brent Spiner didn’t write the letter given it’s fact-free flight of fancy into Trump-ian language use). But Clinton’s health has to be vetted with fine tooth comb, because reasons.

Once again, the double standard rears its ugly head. The media will let that slide by, even though Clinton’s letter was far more specific and detailed (and in the appropriate medical jargon) than Trump’s nonsensical letter.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:45:16am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:48:01am

re: #244 lawhawk

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Hypocrisy. Sheer fucking hypocrisy.

Trump’s letter was a POS concocted by a Dr. Okun standin (and I’m not sure Brent Spiner didn’t write the letter given it’s fact-free flight of fancy into Trump-ian language use). But Clinton’s health has to be vetted with fine tooth comb, because reasons.

Once again, the double standard rears its ugly head. The media will let that slide by, even though Clinton’s letter was far more specific and detailed (and in the appropriate medical jargon) than Trump’s nonsensical letter.

Right to privacy for everyone except Hillary.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:49:18am

Just got my Clinton/Kaine bumper sticker. I’d ordered one from the campaign but it still hasn’t arrived so I stopped by the local Democratic office here in town and got one. It’s nice, compacted.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:50:14am

re: #241 lawhawk

“We don’t want a wuss. We want a man. And that’s what Donald Trump is.”

But he has tiny hands and fat, flabby, grandmother arms.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:51:51am

lol

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:52:02am

re: #247 Sir John Barron

Just got my Clinton/Kaine bumper sticker. I’d ordered one from the campaign but it still hasn’t arrived so I stopped by the local Democratic office here in town and got one. It’s nice, compacted.

It would probably not be a wise idea for me to put one on my car. According to Nate Silver I live in the district most likely to vote for Mr. Trump (and I can verify that with all the Trump signs around here). My car would get rolled over.

There is an empty billboard at the corner of two paved roads here in the county (we have three paved roads). I thought about offering the rancher who owns the billboard some money to rent it - then contacting the Clinton campaign for a billboard poster.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:52:45am

re: #237 Stanley Sea

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also not deplorable, Pence says he doesn’t call anyone names.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:54:00am

re: #224 Patricia Kayden

Doesn’t matter. They will have still lost. That’s all that matters. My only worry is that Secretary Clinton will win the White House but the Republicans will retain the Senate. That would mean that essentially nothing gets done since Republican Senators will sit on their hands and obstruct.

As hard as it would be to believe, I think there is a real possibility they would leave Scalia’s vacancy empty rather than allow a Clinton appointee on the Court.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:54:04am

re: #250 Anymouse

It would probably not be a wise idea for me to put one on my car. According to Nate Silver I live in the district most likely to vote for Mr. Trump (and I can verify that with all the Trump signs around here). My car would get rolled over.

There is an empty billboard at the corner of two paved roads here in the county (we have three paved roads). I thought about offering the rancher who owns the billboard some money to rent it - then contacting the Clinton campaign for a billboard poster.

Yeah, even I debated it with myself for a while, even though I’m in relatively safe Maryland. Still some deplorables here, too. But today’s Trumpoids have provoked me.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:56:01am

re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Mesa Verde is impressive. I’ve been to Montezuma’s Castle in AZ (north of Phoenix), which is impressive in its own right but that’s a fraction of the size of the Mesa Verde cliff dwellings.

Definitely go in the spring or fall - summer can get quite hot. And if you’re already in that part of CO, it’s not a far drive over to Canyonlands and Arches (stay in Moab to hit all 3).

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:57:35am

Lizard! But I hid it because it looks like a snake.

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Those are some lively hashtags there!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:59:23am

re: #255 wrenchwench

He looks happy.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 9:59:40am

re: #240 Tigger2

I know some people don’t like Keith Olbermann but this is an awesome summation on Trump.

thescene.com

Fuckin’ epic.

Olbermann is going to be one of the hardest hitters against Trump going forward.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:01:33am

So this is supposed to answer everyone’s questions about Trump’s health.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:02:23am

The Drumpfskind supporters on my Facebook wall don’t seem to be budging. They’re not going to change. Drumpfskind was right - he could shoot someone in broad daylight on a NYC street and his followers will still vote for him.

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retired cynic  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:02:59am

re: #240 Tigger2

I know some people don’t like Keith Olbermann but this is an awesome summation on Trump.

thescene.com

How did he ever get through that without one stumble on the words??? What a talent! What an awesome compilation!

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blueraven  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:03:22am

Just watched the idiotic EMERGENCY HEARING chaired by Chaffetz on the Hillary emails. The THIRD EMERGENCY HEARING since congress resumed over these 4 working days.

This was nothing more than a political stunt. I know I am preaching to the choir but my gawd, this was awful.

Anyway, to make up for my wasted morning, I have decided to take mr blue’s new (to him) car for a spin in the hill country with the convertible top down and the music blaring.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:04:28am

re: #261 blueraven

Just watched the idiotic EMERGENCY HEARING chaired by Chaffetz on the Hillary emails. The THIRD EMERGENCY HEARING since congress resumed over these 4 working days.

This was nothing more than a political stunt. I know I am preaching to the choir but my gawd, this was awful.

Anyway, to make up for my wasted morning, I have decided to take mr blue’s new (to him) car for a spin in the hill country with the convertible top down and the music blaring.

If you see any cops, make sure you’re playing Beastie Boys.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:05:21am

Big news today I see. A questionable TV show doctor is going to be asking a scamming reality TV star about his health records…but only those the TV reality star wants answered.

Think of the ratings!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:05:32am

re: #252 Big Beautiful Door

As hard as it would be to believe, I think there is a real possibility they would leave Scalia’s vacancy empty rather than allow a Clinton appointee on the Court.

If Republicans retain the Senate, we’re going to see all kinds of craziness for at least President Hillary Clinton’s first term. There is no way they’re going to do anything to advance her policies or judicial nominees.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:07:53am

re: #261 blueraven

No one is pushing them to pass a ZIKA law without silly Confederate flags and anti-Planned Parenthood add-ons. It’s funny what Republicans can get away with with zero pushback. In fact, they may even be rewarded for all their obstructionism should Trump win.

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:08:25am

So Luxembourg is calling for Hungary to be kicked out of the EU over its treatment of migrants and disregard of press freedoms.

Which is best to ask: why do the usual suspects whine and rant about Turkey’s assault on press freedoms and use it as an excuse to prevent them from entering the EU but give a free pass to Hungary for doing the same fucking thing?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:10:00am

re: #240 Tigger2

I know some people don’t like Keith Olbermann but this is an awesome summation on Trump.

thescene.com

That was great! I hope it convinces some people not to vote for the Oompa Loompa.

Trump will be tweeting something in return soon, I’m sure.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:10:10am

re: #264 Patricia Kayden

If Republicans retain the Senate, we’re going to see all kinds of craziness for at least President Hillary Clinton’s first term. There is no way they’re going to do anything to advance her policies or judicial nominees.

The judiciary is the goal now.

They have gummed up the legislature and are obstructing the executive.

The GOP pretty much explicitly runs on breaking the government (hence Ted Cruz’s threat yesterday to shut down the government just before the elections over ICANN).

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:15:13am

re: #266 electrotek

Just a side note: I love traveling around Europe, and I would *love* to visit Budapest, but I’m sort of boycotting Hungary until they clear up their act.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:17:48am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

Basically there are two Americas. Hillary represents the one that I love. Trump represents the one that should just die.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:19:07am

re: #266 electrotek

So Luxembourg is calling for Hungary to be kicked out of the EU over its treatment of migrants and disregard of press freedoms.

Which is best to ask: why do the usual suspects whine and rant about Turkey’s assault on press freedoms and use it as an excuse to prevent them from entering the EU but give a free pass to Hungary for doing the same fucking thing?

Turkey is mostly on that OTHER continent. That seems to make a difference.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:19:45am

re: #242 Belafon

See! I told you she was born in Kenya! And she’s such a secret Muslim she doesn’t even wear the hijoobie thing!

And she wants to send aid to Mubarak even though he was deposed years ago!!!

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:21:01am

re: #269 Nyet

Just a side note: I love traveling around Europe, and I would *love* to visit Budapest, but I’m sort of boycotting Hungary until they clear up their act.

Ideally I would love to boycott both Serbia and Turkey for their genocide denials, but that’s of course easier said than done.

And if I boycott those two, shouldn’t I also boycott Japan for their refusal to acknowledge WW2-era atrocities? Last I checked they have a defense minister that is literally the female version of Dick Cheney, I shit you not.

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:21:25am

re: #271 wrenchwench

Turkey is mostly on that OTHER continent. That seems to make a difference.

Didn’t stop Cyprus (at least the Greek part) from becoming a member of the EU haha

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:22:12am

re: #274 electrotek

Didn’t stop Cyprus (at least the Greek part) from becoming a member of the EU haha

Turkey has shut itself out of any serious consideration for the EU for some time to come.

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:23:30am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Turkey has shut itself out of any serious consideration for the EU for some time to come.

I agree. Don’t get me wrong, this is not in any defense of Turkey in any way.

Just pointing out the obvious double standards being displayed here. Hell, Serbia has proved to be a more deserving member of the EU than Hungary ever would be. They’re not treating migrants like cattle, for starters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:25:40am

re: #276 electrotek

I agree. Don’t get me wrong, this is not in any defense of Turkey in any way.

Just pointing out the obvious double standards being displayed here. Hell, Serbia has proved to be a more deserving member of the EU than Hungary ever would be. They’re not treating migrants like cattle, for starters.

Serbia got a lot of bad publicity for the atrocities in the Balkan wars, and has still not done enough to put that reputation behind them.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:27:02am

re: #274 electrotek

Didn’t stop Cyprus (at least the Greek part) from becoming a member of the EU haha

When Greece’s beaches get too crowded and Turkey’s are discovered, here comes the EU membership!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:27:31am

re: #266 electrotek

So Luxembourg is calling for Hungary to be kicked out of the EU over its treatment of migrants and disregard of press freedoms.

Which is best to ask: why do the usual suspects whine and rant about Turkey’s assault on press freedoms and use it as an excuse to prevent them from entering the EU but give a free pass to Hungary for doing the same fucking thing?

Well you know, muslims.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:27:52am

re: #278 wrenchwench

When Greece’s beaches get too crowded and Turkey’s are discovered, here comes the EU membership!

They will have to do a lot to get over the recent crackdown under Erdogan.

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:28:04am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Serbia got a lot of bad publicity for the atrocities in the Balkan wars, and has still not done enough to put that reputation behind them.

Too bad Greece didn’t get kicked out of NATO for sheltering Karadzic and Milosevic while secretly providing NATO intelligence secrets to Serbian militias during the war. Why did they do it? Bullshit Orthodox Christian solidarity. Nothing more.

Religious solidarity is nothing but groupthink and can be toxic at times, and this is a perfect example of it.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:28:37am

More entertainment from the Louisiana Senate Campaign

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:29:06am
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I got to meet Peres once, way back in 1993. Very interesting man. He just turned 93.

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Anymouse  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:29:12am

re: #266 electrotek

So Luxembourg is calling for Hungary to be kicked out of the EU over its treatment of migrants and disregard of press freedoms.

Which is best to ask: why do the usual suspects whine and rant about Turkey’s assault on press freedoms and use it as an excuse to prevent them from entering the EU but give a free pass to Hungary for doing the same fucking thing?

I read an explanation at the BBC that there is no mechanism in the EU to kick a member out (sort of like the USA cannot kick out a state).

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:30:34am

re: #266 electrotek

So Luxembourg is calling for Hungary to be kicked out of the EU over its treatment of migrants and disregard of press freedoms.

Which is best to ask: why do the usual suspects whine and rant about Turkey’s assault on press freedoms and use it as an excuse to prevent them from entering the EU but give a free pass to Hungary for doing the same fucking thing?

Because Hungary’s part of the EU and they are probably considered “European”. They probably wouldn’t be considered for admission if they were to apply now.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:33:09am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:33:09am

re: #285 Belafon

Because Hungary’s part of the EU and they are probably considered “European”. They probably wouldn’t be considered for admission if they were to apply now.

I still believe that the EU expanded too rapidly in that part of Europe, and for the wrong reasons.

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Mattand  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:33:48am

re: #284 Anymouse

I read an explanation at the BBC that there is no mechanism in the EU to kick a member out (sort of like the USA cannot kick out a state).

I have a list as long as my arm on that one.

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TedStriker  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:33:54am

re: #205 scottslemmons

I love New Mexico so dadgum much, and I hardly ever get to go there anymore. We used to spend almost every summer vacation in the Sacramento Mountains in the southern region of the state, and I’ve never gotten over how beautiful that part of the world was…

re: #202 lawhawk

The Mrs. and I are City folk, and we are always hunting for the next national park to visit. Looks like we might head to the New Mexico region next.

If you’ve never been to the Sangre de Cristo range of the Rockies out in NM, you don’t know what you’re missing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:35:46am

re: #284 Anymouse

I read an explanation at the BBC that there is no mechanism in the EU to kick a member out (sort of like the USA cannot kick out a state).

All they can do is to slap it with enough sanctions to make it want to leave on its own.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:36:27am
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Remember when Trump said he’d punish women who have abortions? Yeah, well, that seems to be right up the alley of anti-abortion extremist Troy Newman who just endorsed Trump.

The bigot brigade continues to stick together.

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Mattand  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:37:00am

re: #286 Dr. Matt

I’ve mentioned it before, but in some ways, I worry more about Trump’s kids than I do him. More Ivannka than the two frat boys, but if they’re smart enough to learn from their dad’s mistakes; and have his straight-up psychopathic lack of empathy for anyone making less than $5 million a year?

*shudder*

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retired cynic  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:37:18am

re: #289 TedStriker

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If you’ve never been to the Sangre de Cristo range of the Rockies out in NM, you don’t know what you’re missing.

Oh, I know that, and love it so much! Shangri La!

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:39:16am

FACT!

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Kragar  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:39:27am
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Nyet  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:40:15am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will have to do a lot to get over the recent crackdown under Erdogan.

Turkey has long been a good example of a moderate, secular Islam. Then they decided that electing Islamists is fun. Oh well, they should learn a lesson or two.

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:41:22am

re: #296 Nyet

Turkey has long been a good example of a moderate, secular Islam. Then they decided that electing Islamists is fun. Oh well, they should learn a lesson or two.

Not all Islamists are bad (i.e. Ennouhida Party in Tunisia).

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:41:57am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will have to do a lot to get over the recent crackdown under Erdogan.

Indeed. A good election, at the least.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:42:31am

re: #292 Mattand

Hopefully after their father loses, they follow in the footsteps of Romney’s kids and just disappear from the public spotlight. I have a feeling though that the two frat douches will probably follow in the footsteps of Palin’s kids.

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Varek Raith  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:42:36am

re: #295 Kragar

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I’d rather see their financials.
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electrotek  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:43:07am

re: #296 Nyet

Turkey has long been a good example of a moderate, secular Islam. Then they decided that electing Islamists is fun. Oh well, they should learn a lesson or two.

Erdogan just wants to be like Putin, no wonder why they have reconciled so quickly. Birds of a feather, often flock together.

Quite odd that Viktor Orban once cited Erdogan as his model for “illiberal democracy” a few years back.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:43:14am

re: #295 Kragar

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“Look at me, daddy!”

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:43:32am

re: #244 lawhawk

and this was a twit in response, brilliant:

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:43:35am

re: #297 electrotek

If Islamist is defined as someone who wants Islamic laws to be state laws, they can only be greater or lesser evil. Like Christian fundies.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:43:36am

re: #289 TedStriker

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If you’ve never been to the Sangre de Cristo range of the Rockies out in NM, you don’t know what you’re missing.

On a bicycle.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:44:42am

Food Pron

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French fries, sunny egg, Munster cheese all on a burger at @fritabatidos in #annarbor #munchdetroit

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:44:54am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Trolling level: God-like.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:46:03am

re: #286 Dr. Matt

Naw, that’s a Bigot of Trumps.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:46:19am

re: #258 Skip Intro

Dr. Oz says he won’t ask Trump medical “questions he doesn’t want to have answered”: politico.com pic.twitter.com
— Kyle Griffin

This is fine.

But Hillary better release every document, every page from the Clinton Foundation, and every document, every record of any medical visit, ever.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:46:48am

re: #291 lawhawk

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Remember when Trump said he’d punish women who have abortions? Yeah, well, that seems to be right up the alley of anti-abortion extremist Troy Newman who just endorsed Trump.

The bigot brigade continues to stick together.

Git in the basket!

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:46:53am

re: #304 Nyet

If Islamist is defined as someone who wants Islamic laws to be state laws, they can only be greater or lesser evil. Like Christian fundies.

True, I can understand that. It’s just that not all Islamists are obviously the same and neither are all ‘Christianists’. The Tunisian party I mentioned shows that they are able to be pragmatic and open to change in the name of democratic progress.

It’s the same when people go rant about how all Zionists are “evil”, and I hate that broad generalization that’s commonly made with many segments of the pro-Palestine crowd. And as someone who supports a Palestinian state, it’s a troubling trend that I wish would go away. I’m proud to be anti-Likudnik, but I have met many wonderful people who describe themselves as Zionists that do not fit into the demonizing entity that the pro-Palestine crowd has created.

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allegro  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:47:07am

re: #292 Mattand

I’ve mentioned it before, but in some ways, I worry more about Trump’s kids than I do him. More Ivannka than the two frat boys, but if they’re smart enough to learn from their dad’s mistakes; and have his straight-up psychopathic lack of empathy for anyone making less than $5 million a year?

*shudder*

Once Daddy Trump is crushed in November (as he will be) when suddenly all of his abusive business practices, his robbing his own foundation and political donors, etc. is taken seriously by his current followers (they are a proven fickle bunch) and he becomes a LOSER in their eyes, the Trump brand will be toxic. Not at all worried about his spawn.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:47:16am

re: #306 Dr. Matt

Food Pron

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Cholesterol City, Something for me to stay away from.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:47:58am

re: #258 Skip Intro

Because, ya know, MDs don’t like asking those difficult questions we don’t want to answer.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:48:23am

re: #313 Tigger2

Cholesterol City, Something for me to stay away from.

Nothing a little Lipitor can’t handle. :)

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:48:26am

Thanks Obama! LOL

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retired cynic  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:49:10am

credit to: juanitajean.com

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:49:43am

re: #313 Tigger2

Cholesterol City, Something for me to stay away from.

Cholesterol has been demonized by the sugar industry!

/I’ll eat again when they get it all sorted out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:51:17am

re: #312 allegro

Once Daddy Trump is crushed in November (as he will be) when suddenly all of his abusive business practices, his robbing his own foundation and political donors, etc. is taken seriously by his current followers (they are a proven fickle bunch) and he becomes a LOSER in their eyes, the Trump brand will be toxic. Not at all worried about his spawn.

None of that will ruin his appeal to those who admire him. And once he is no longer a political figure, the public will go back to their previous love/hate/fascination relationship with him.

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TedStriker  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:53:33am

re: #305 wrenchwench

On a bicycle.

Well, where I’ve been out there, it was a bit hard to ride a bike for most of it, especially with a 50-60 pound pack on my back for a week-and-a-half each time (and I’ve been out there four times in the past 20+ years) ;-P

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:54:25am

re: #311 electrotek

Well I support the existence of a Palestinian state (if one supports the existence of a(n ethnic) Jewish state but not of a Palestinian one, one is a hypocrite). Thing is, supporting a state can be neutral, whereas supporting religious law as state law is inherently bad (AFAIC; values are subjective). Some Islamists can be temporary allies, like some creationists, anti-abortionists, communists, but in the end Islamism is incompatible with liberal democracy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:55:25am

Kellyanne is even more of a deplorable basketcase than Katrina, if that is even humanly possible.

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Kragar  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:55:57am
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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:56:36am

re: #318 wrenchwench

Cholesterol has been demonized by the sugar industry!

/I’ll eat again when they get it all sorted out.

My body just doesn’t handle cholesterol well, my quad bypass and 3 heart attacks are proof of that.

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Varek Raith  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:58:08am

re: #324 Tigger2

My body just doesn’t handle cholesterol well, my quad bypass and 3 heart attacks are proof of that.

Yikes, sorry to hear that.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:58:33am

re: #320 TedStriker

Well, where I’ve been out there, it was a bit hard to ride a bike for most of it, especially with a 50-60 pound pack on my back for a week-and-a-half each time (and I’ve been out there four times in the past 20+ years) ;-P

I was carrying 45 lbs. For 3 months. But using wheels on pavement, so I was taking the easy way.

Respect.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 10:59:52am

re: #325 Varek Raith

Yikes, sorry to hear that.

Thanks, it’s been a while ago but it’s something I need to stay on top of.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:00:38am

re: #324 Tigger2

My body just doesn’t handle cholesterol well, my quad bypass and 3 heart attacks are proof of that.

A person’s got to know their limits. It’s tough getting that closely acquainted with them, though. I hope you’re well.

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allegro  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:00:40am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

None of that will ruin his appeal to those who admire him. And once he is no longer a political figure, the public will go back to their previous love/hate/fascination relationship with him.

I dunno. See Bush, George W. and by extension JEB! Once their knuckle-dragging fanbois attach the LOSER label, they no longer ever liked or supported them.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:00:45am

So, Trump was supposed to rant in Iowa about an hour ago.

No one’s saying anything. Should I assume he didn’t say anything stupid?

How can that BE???

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:00:51am

re: #323 Kragar

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:03:16am

re: #323 Kragar

And, amusingly, he tries to defend his moronicity by saying that he meant that 3 months is 2x6 weeks, how could you read it any differently. Mah brain, it hurts, now.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:04:26am

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

Kellyanne is even more of a deplorable basketcase than Katrina, if that is even humanly possible.

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Does Conway mean all the bellyaching Trump is doing over Deplorables?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:05:04am

re: #323 Kragar

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What liberal said this was the same thing?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:06:36am

re: #333 Le Lapin Tueur

And, amusingly, he tries to defend his moronicity by saying that he meant that 3 months is 2x6 weeks, how could you read it any differently. Mah brain, it hurts, now.

Hurr hurr 6 > 3! Owned!!!!

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:06:45am

re: #335 Sir John Barron

What liberal said this was the same thing?

The one who totally flunked math, I’m guessing.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:07:36am

Love Obama.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:08:04am

re: #328 wrenchwench

A person’s got to know their limits. It’s tough getting that closely acquainted with them, though. I hope you’re well.

Yeah i’m not doing to bad, just have to watch what I eat. Before all of this I used to live on fast food, not good to do.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:08:18am

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

Kellyanne is even more of a deplorable basketcase than Katrina, if that is even humanly possible.

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So she complains about Hillary always turning the topic to
Donald, by turning the topic away from Donald and talking about Hillary.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:08:52am
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allegro  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:09:26am

re: #335 Sir John Barron

What liberal said this was the same thing?

Just taking a wild guess, I suspect a liberal was saying that Trump is now proposing the same thing Hillary is, i.e. maternity leave. A Trump spox is going “Nuh uh! He’s proposing twice as long, stupid!”

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:13:30am

re: #336 Sir John Barron

Hurr hurr 6 > 3! Owned!!!!

6 = 3!

Gotcha.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:14:04am

Shouldn’t people who are pro life be in favor of of a generous maternity leave time?

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:14:25am

re: #284 Anymouse

(sort of like the USA cannot kick out a state).

Don’t think there aren’t days this saddens me.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:15:19am

re: #343 Belafon

6 = 3!

Gotcha.

6 is heavier than 3. Everybody knows that.

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retired cynic  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:15:19am

re: #345 sagehen

Don’t think there aren’t days this saddens me.

At least but them on probation and issue fines for stupidity and malice!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:15:57am

re: #345 sagehen

Don’t think there aren’t days this saddens me.

Texas…you’re FIRED!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:16:07am

LOLWHUT

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:16:51am
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With facts.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:17:01am

re: #349 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT

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Not going to his site, but if he’s the first I’ve heard of it, it’s not being pushed by any liberal media I know of.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:18:10am

I have a shirt that says “factorial!” Could it be shortened to “!!”?

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:18:24am
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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:19:24am

re: #349 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT

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I would think someone who was recently saved by doctors would have more respect for them, but this is SMOTI, so I was expecting too much.

They hate the doctor who ‘attacked’ football.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:20:23am
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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:21:36am

I tried watching the NBC feed of Obama’s speech. The sound quality was so horrible I turned it right off. I couldn’t understand 90% of what he was saying.

EDIT: Jaunte’s link is much better. Thank you!

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:22:43am

re: #355 Dave In Austin

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:23:18am
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freetoken  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:25:50am

This is getting a bit of coverage but I think that the US media is so obsessed with the horse-race that most Americans will not give second thought to this:

NASA Analysis Finds August 2016 Another Record Month

August 2016 was the warmest August in 136 years of modern record-keeping, according to a monthly analysis of global temperatures by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:26:16am

re: #359 lawhawk

He just won’t leave that bullshit talking point alone will he?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:27:18am

re: #349 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT

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WOW! SMOTI is spiraling. SAD!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:28:13am

re: #350 jaunte

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With facts.

Just wait until George W. Bush and Mitt Romney go on the campaign trail to…oh wait.
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:28:35am

re: #349 The Vicious Babushka

He’s referring to a Washinton Post story about Bennet Omalu apparently saying Hilary may have been poisoned.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:28:50am

re: #353 jaunte

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Varek Raith  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:29:31am

re: #364 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s referring to a Washinton Post story about Bennet Omalu apparently saying Hilary may have been poisoned.

washingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:29:46am

re: #329 allegro

I dunno. See Bush, George W. and by extension JEB! Once their knuckle-dragging fanbois attach the LOSER label, they no longer ever liked or supported them.

Trump supporters are a much different breed. And besides, he LOST because Hillary rigged/stole the election and because the tricksy press turned on him and did not give him fair coverage.

We all make the same mistake of applying the same metrics to DT that we have to every other politician out there. He is a breed apart.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:30:49am

re: #339 Tigger2

Yeah i’m not doing to bad, just have to watch what I eat. Before all of this I used to live on fast food, not good to do.

Supersized to with in inch of your life?

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:31:22am

Lot of red on this map:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:31:23am

re: #346 Barefoot Grin

6 is heavier than 3. Everybody knows that.

but is it heavier than a duck?

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:32:02am

re: #350 jaunte

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With facts.

@SMShow @CNNPolitics Remember that time Obama was ripping Trump a new asshole while killing Osama at the same time?

— Tracy Burridge (@Mr_T_M_Burridge) September 13, 2016
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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:32:47am

re: #350 jaunte

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With facts.

Media: It was divisive, etc.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:33:12am
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The Trump administration’s Secretary of State, ladies and gentlemen.

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Interesting Times  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:33:31am

re: #369 freetoken

Lot of red on this map:

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…exacerbated by a lot of red on these maps :(

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:34:01am

re: #373 Targetpractice

Fuck John Bolton. And Fuck his ugly ass mustache too.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:35:08am

re: #369 freetoken

Lot of red on this map:

Image: amaps.png

Temps are considerably above average for this time of year here where I am. It’s usually about 68 F; today - and for the last several days - we’ve been in the mid-80’s. I’d say about 15 F above normal, and it looks set to continue for another week or so.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:35:30am

re: #373 Targetpractice

Fox News contributor calls for “overthrow” of the Iranian government “if we had a real president”.

then we take their oil, right?

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Teukka  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:35:41am

re: #376 Dr Lizardo

Temps are considerably above average for this time of year here where I am. It’s usually about 68 F; today - and for the last several days - we’ve been in the mid-80’s. I’d say about 15 F above normal, and it looks set to continue for another week or so.

Same hear. Seasons are a month or so late :(

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TedStriker  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:36:00am

re: #326 wrenchwench

I was carrying 45 lbs. For 3 months. But using wheels on pavement, so I was taking the easy way.

Respect.

I may have misphrased things; I didn’t bike my Philmont treks, I was on foot all four trips. I guess I was trying to say that it would have been very difficult to have biked many of the trails I hiked, even with a badass mountain bike; plus, bikes aren’t really even allowed on Philmont trails, outside maybe the area around Base Camp, the Philmont Training Center, and the Villa Philmonte.

On the trail at Philmont, you’re either on your feet (which is the vast majority of trekkers) or you’re on horseback (some staff and the Cavalcade trekkers).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:36:16am

Because overthrowing a government worked so well for us in Iraq.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:36:17am

re: #373 Targetpractice

Fox News contributor calls for “overthrow” of the Iranian government “if we had a real president”
— Media Matters (@mmfa) September 13, 2016.

Yeah, because overthrowing Iraq was seamless and yoge success.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:37:01am

re: #380 Eclectic Cyborg

Because overthrowing a government worked so well for us in Iraq.

re: #381 Dr. Matt

Yeah, because overthrowing Iraq was seamless and yoge success.

You beat me by 1 second!

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:37:03am

Here we’ve had some rather cool nights a few weeks ago… and now the poor loquat trees, which have had almost no rain for several years and have dropped many of their leaves, are trying to bloom, a bit early.

And the racemes are very small.

Another bad year for loquats ahead.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:37:10am

re: #373 Targetpractice

Fox News contributor calls for “overthrow” of the Iranian government “if we had a real president” Video
— Media Matters

Oh really? Which army would he have perform this ‘overthrow’?

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Varek Raith  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:37:12am

re: #380 Eclectic Cyborg

Because overthrowing a government worked so well for us in Iraq.

re: #381 Dr. Matt

Yeah, because overthrowing Iraq was seamless and yoge success.

Uranium Cake Walk.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:38:09am

re: #377 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

then we take their oil, right?

the invasion will pay for itself….we’ll be greeted as liberat…..

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Varek Raith  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:38:14am

Uranium Fever: Elton Britt, 1955

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:39:04am

re: #382 Dr. Matt

You beat me by 1 second!

It acually would have been longer if my comment had posted right the first time lol, but kudos on the great minds!

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:39:42am

re: #376 Dr Lizardo

Temps are considerably above average for this time of year here where I am. It’s usually about 68 F; today - and for the last several days - we’ve been in the mid-80’s. I’d say about 15 F above normal, and it looks set to continue for another week or so.

We’re slightly above average right now in the DFW area, but still about 12F cooler than 2000.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:40:13am

Trump really expects he can bully every other country in the world and get away with it.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:40:19am

re: #373 Targetpractice

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The Trump administration’s Secretary of State, ladies and gentlemen.

Invade Iran so American soldiers can be killed by the weapons that Ronny Raygun sold to them.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:41:06am

re: #391 Timothy Watson

Invade Iran so American soldiers can be killed by the weapons that Ronny Raygun sold to them.

We gotta test them on somebody.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:44:02am

I would have said that we did overthrow the Iranian gov’t…in 1953. And the Iranian people have never forgiven us for doing so.

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Kragar  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:44:43am

re: #387 Varek Raith

That turned out well for everyone.

I’m kidding. It turned out badly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:45:20am

re: #393 Targetpractice

I would have said that we did overthrow the Iranian gov’t…in 1953. And the Iranian people have never forgiven us for doing so.

No, they just hate us because of our Freedoms.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:47:38am

re: #379 TedStriker

I may have misphrased things; I didn’t bike my Philmont treks, I was on foot all four trips. I guess I was trying to say that it would have been very difficult to have biked many of the trails I hiked, even with a badass mountain bike; plus, bikes aren’t really even allowed on Philmont trails, outside maybe the area around Base Camp, the Philmont Training Center, and the Villa Philmonte.

On the trail at Philmont, you’re either on your feet (which is the vast majority of trekkers) or you’re on horseback (some staff and the Cavalcade trekkers).

I knew you were hiking. That’s the hard way. And I’m all for keeping bikes off of most trails. Horses too, if it’s wet. They make deep holes in the trail.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:47:43am

re: #393 Targetpractice

History is hard.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:51:37am

re: #380 Eclectic Cyborg

Because overthrowing a government worked so well for us in Iraq.

Wait, but didn’t Trump say he was against regime change? Or is that only when he’s not the one changing the regime?

I haz a confuzzle.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:51:44am

re: #389 Belafon

We’re slightly above average right now in the DFW area, but still about 12F cooler than 2000.

The last three years have also seen winters milder than normal; the winter resort operators around here (and it’s a big business) have been tearing their hair out. The last really strong winter I can recall in this neck of the woods was the winter of 2009-2010; that was pretty brutal. 2011-2012 was a normal winter, but after that it’s been pretty mild. Only a few days total of snow. We did get a pretty serious freezing rain storm last winter, which is rather untypical, but that was the only big event that garnered a lot of attention.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:52:48am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:56:02am

re: #358 wrenchwench

Isn’t that more of a ‘Dave In Madison’ thing?

crooksandliars.com

Kellyanne is whining.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2016 • 11:57:12am

re: #393 Targetpractice

I would have said that we did overthrow the Iranian gov’t…in 1953. And the Iranian people have never forgiven us for doing so.

“Americans think 100 years is a long time. Europeans think 100 miles is far away.”

(no, I don’t remember where I stole that from)

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:00:33pm

re: #402 sagehen

“Americans think 100 years is a long time. Europeans think 100 miles is far away.”

(no, I don’t remember where I stole that from)

And not untrue; many years ago, a student of mine was looking for work. At the time, she resided in a smallish town (or a big village, YMMV) about 14 miles from Prague. Being as she had access to a car, I suggested she try to find employment in Prague; after all, it’s the political, cultural and economic capital of the Czech Republic and its unemployment rate is laughably low.

You’d think I’d just told her to drive her car to another planet from the look she gave me, LOL.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:00:59pm

A tisket. A tasket. No one wants the Longaberger basket (building).

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:02:54pm

re: #401 Dave In Austin

crooksandliars.com

Kellyanne is whining.

Oh, OK. Looked like some sort of Wisconsonian come-on. By Mr. Rogers.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:04:00pm

re: #399 Dr Lizardo

Last winter, for the first time since I’ve lived in the DFW area (18 years), we didn’t get snow.

I completely agree that humans are causing major changes in the climate. Other places are getting the heat that probably should have been here.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:04:32pm

re: #371 Tigger2

That was amazing. Obama is a stone cold m-fer.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:04:36pm

re: #404 lawhawk

A tisket. A tasket. No one wants the Longaberger basket (building).

You could fit quite a few deplorables in there. Then sell it to Trump. He’ll paint it gold.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:04:52pm

re: #404 lawhawk

A tisket. A tasket. No one wants the Longaberger basket (building).

Maybe it could be the new Trump campaign HQ?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:06:19pm

re: #381 Dr. Matt

We need to stay far, far away from Iran until the Ayatollah dies, then watch carefully. I think there is a good chance of Civil War.

If the mainline of the Iranian Military asks for help against the Revolutionary Guard and Basij, then do something. But hands off until then.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:08:26pm

re: #399 Dr Lizardo

The last three years have also seen winters milder than normal; the winter resort operators around here (and it’s a big business) have been tearing their hair out. The last really strong winter I can recall in this neck of the woods was the winter of 2009-2010; that was pretty brutal. 2011-2012 was a normal winter, but after that it’s been pretty mild. Only a few days total of snow. We did get a pretty serious freezing rain storm last winter, which is rather untypical, but that was the only big event that garnered a lot of attention.

I think what really convinced me about climate change was when ski resorts in the Alps began investing in snow-making equipment… (was that about 10 years ago?)

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:09:19pm

What “Basket of Deplorables”?

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Kragar  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:10:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:10:27pm

re: #412 The Vicious Babushka

But Hillary was way out of line to criticize these people…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:11:40pm

HAV MOAR DEPLOARIBLES

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:12:59pm

re: #411 sagehen

I think what really convinced me about climate change was when ski resorts in the Alps began investing in snow-making equipment… (was that about 10 years ago?)

That I don’t know. I know some of my friends - and students - have complained that winter sports ain’t what they used to be in this part of Central Europe.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:14:01pm

re: #413 Kragar

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If that is true the guy should be ran out of the corp so fast his clothes would fly off from the friction.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:14:04pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:14:11pm

re: #383 freetoken

Here we’ve had some rather cool nights a few weeks ago… and now the poor loquat trees, which have had almost no rain for several years and have dropped many of their leaves, are trying to bloom, a bit early.

And the racemes are very small.

Another bad year for loquats ahead.

The figs though!

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:14:32pm

We see your pathetic car chases and raise you a tractor trailer:

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:15:24pm

Average Trump supporters everyone!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:16:07pm

re: #420 lawhawk

That is going to be hard to stop. Just have to wait for the clown to run out of fuel.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:17:22pm

re: #421 Ziggy_TARDIS

Average Trump supporters everyone!

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Short-bed of deplorables.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:18:59pm

re: #420 lawhawk

We see your pathetic car chases and raise you a tractor trailer:

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That was so January 2016 and 2006 here in North Texas.

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Tigger2  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:22:06pm

re: #421 Ziggy_TARDIS

Average Trump supporters everyone!

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The video is fucking disgusting if real, I would just like to know if the CB audio that runs with the video is real.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:23:28pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:30:43pm

re: #369 freetoken

Lot of red on this map:

Image: amaps.png

There is one big red blob that covers part of Michigan, all of Ohio and runs down to about North Carolina and then from there covers the whole northeast of America.

Sure has felt like it has been hotter than usual with very high humidity this summer here in Columbus. That map sure proves it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:33:20pm

re: #425 Tigger2

The video is fucking disgusting.

They’re just passionate…economically insecure…something, something….

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:44:44pm

re: #404 lawhawk

A tisket. A tasket. No one wants the Longaberger basket (building).

Heh. The article says one of it’s issues is the location.

Yeah, a couple miles east of Newark (Locals pronounce it Ne’rk) is really nowhere land.

When they were riding high on the hog their manufacturing plant was in that area and they drew workers from Newark, Dresden, Coshocton and little villages in the area. All areas sort of hard pressed for work. Now that the jobs are gone, the area is back to being hard pressed.

And, it is too far away to enjoy being another bedroom community to Columbus. Although I am sure many drive from the area to jobs in Columbus.

Good luck selling that cartoon building. They should have built a normal building and had a cartoon basket sign out front. A business lesson for sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:46:34pm

re: #429 ObserverArt

Heh. The article says one of it’s issues is the location.

Yeah, a couple miles east of Newark (Locals pronounce it Ne’rk) is really nowhere land.

When they were riding high on the hog their manufacturing plant was in that area and they drew workers from Newark, Dresden, Coshocton and little villages in the area. All areas sort of hard pressed for work. Now that the jobs are gone, the area is back to being hard pressed.

And, it is too far away to enjoy being another bedroom community to Columbus. Although I am sure many drive from the area to jobs in Columbus.

Good luck selling that cartoon building. They should have built a normal building and had a cartoon basket sign out front. A business lesson for sure.

The Realtor should think outside of the box for marketing.
I’m thinking something church-related like “hell in a handbasket”…

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:48:20pm

re: #409 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe it could be the new Trump campaign HQ?

Noooooo!!!

No Trump in Ohio…especially that close to Columbus.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 13, 2016 • 12:52:57pm

re: #343 Belafon

6 = 3!

Gotcha.

Six does equal three factorial, just like your equation says. ////

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2016 • 2:44:05pm

Truckloads of Horribles “Black people are great, I think everyone should own one.”

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2016 • 7:13:59pm

re: #82 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah, keep them to yourself.


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