Trump Attacks Black Female Pastor Who Asked Him Not to Make a Political Speech in Flint

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When Donald Trump spoke at a church in Flint, Michigan, yesterday as part of his “African American outreach” effort, he began ranting about Hillary Clinton as usual. But the pastor of the church, Rev. Faith Green Timmons, had the courage to interrupt him and say, “Mr. Trump, I invited you here to thank us, not make a political speech.”

Trump actually backed down. At the time. But there’s no way a malignant narcissist like Donald Trump is going to accept such a slight, especially from a black woman, and today he — of course! — attacked Rev. Timmons personally on Fox News, saying, “She was so nervous, she was like a nervous mess,” and hinting that she had a political agenda — even though she was asking him not to make a political speech.

Just some more high quality “African American outreach” for you.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2016 • 12:56:52pm

I have a question for a polling group, like PPP, to ask voters: If you are voting for Trump, are you hoping he loses anyway?

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S'latch  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:00:26pm

Donald Trump is such a sicko that just watching and listening to him makes me feel physically ill. And, it occurred to me that the feeling of loathing and nausea that he causes in me might actually be one of the secrets of his personal success. If he can make his competition feel this way while he remains unmoved, he might be able to weaken their resolve, and might increase his chance of succeeding over them. This is like a wrestler who has such bad body odor that he makes a superior opponent gag and knuckle under.

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TedStriker  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:02:10pm
Trump actually backed down. At the time. But there’s no way a malignant narcissist like Donald Trump is going to accept such a slight, especially from a black woman, and today he — of course! — attacked Rev. Timmons personally on Fox News, saying, “She was so nervous, she was like a nervous mess,” and hinting that she had a political agenda — even though she was asking him not to make a political speech.

Of course Trump did, he’s just can’t help himself; he always has to be the one with the last word.

IOW, the sky is blue, water is wet, and Trump acts like the asshole that he is.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:09:27pm

re: #1 Belafon

I have a question for a polling group, like PPP, to ask voters: If you are voting for Trump, are you hoping he loses anyway?

Not understanding where you are going? Why would they be voting for him and not want him to win? I’d like to know how many are voting for him but know dang well that he cannot fulfill the promises he has made on the campaign trail (i.e., building a trillion dollar wall on the Mexican border).

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:10:14pm
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Kragar  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:11:20pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:13:00pm

The issue here is that they dared ask the Trump to do or say something other than what he felt like doing at the moment…that is not allowed.

That is why he does not want moderators at the debates, so he can behave as he sees and feels fit at the moment.

And that is how he plans to Make America Great: by just having it do whatever he thinks is the right thing at the moment.

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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:13:39pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Oh yes. My only joy if Trump gets elected will be to watch his enablers in the main stream media be first up against the wall.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:15:44pm

Once again, Trump claims to know the feels of those around them based on some “body language” or other tells, even though it’s clear that Trump doesn’t have a clue. Bluster is his stock in trade.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:17:08pm

re: #8 EPR-radar

Oh yes. My only joy if Trump gets elected will be to watch his enablers in the main stream media be first up against the wall.

They will be too busy making accusations of fraud and manipulation and “foul play” that will have to be investigated because “many questions are unsanswered” and they will be styled as heroes and defenders of democracy.

Once Hillary is elected, the media are really going to turn on her, there will be no attempt at any kind of “balance”

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Weaselone  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:18:15pm

She later tried to defend him from hecklers in the congregation. I suspect that stung his ego as much as her taking him to task.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:19:22pm

re: #11 Weaselone

She later tried to defend him from hecklers in te congregation. I suspect that stung his ego as much as her tsking him to task.

What did they have to lose for heckling him?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:20:56pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:22:17pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

What a fucking moron.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:23:18pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Think you need a random Jr. tweeter the way you made one for Sr. Both are loons.

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gocart mozart  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:23:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:23:41pm
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Weaselone  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:23:54pm

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They didn’t have anything to lose. The reverend was just trying to keep the crowd from being impolite.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:24:32pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

Not understanding where you are going? Why would they be voting for him and not want him to win? I’d like to know how many are voting for him but know dang well that he cannot fulfill the promises he has made on the campaign trail (i.e., building a trillion dollar wall on the Mexican border).

We’ve talked about people who won’t vote for Trump but won’t vote for Clinton either, such as D_F. But I am pretty sure that there are people who are voting for Trump because of family or other peer pressure, but just don’t want him to win. Some of them might be in the anti-Clinton group, but not all of them.

Edit: The idea behind the question is that there are some people who want to keep their hands clean - I voted for the Republican - but don’t want him to actually be able to mess with anything.

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Kragar  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:25:13pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:25:34pm

re: #19 Belafon

We’ve talked about people who won’t vote for Trump but won’t vote for Clinton either, such as D_F. But I am pretty sure that there are people who are voting for Trump because of family or other peer pressure, but just don’t want him to win. Some of them might be in the anti-Clinton group, but not all of them.

The beauty of the voting booth is that it is private. No one can see who you voted for, you could vote for Clinton and lie your ass off to everyone else if you are dealing with “peer pressure”.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:25:58pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Like “joking” about the Holocaust. Because murdering millions of people is just oh so funny.

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allegro  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:27:09pm

Trump is such a cowardly little boy. Just like all his tough talk about Mexico and how they are going to knuckle under his greatness, when there face-to-face he’s all “I love you guys!” so he won’t get punched in the face. When he gets far enough away he’s all tough guy again. Now, this pastor. While there in front of a congregation he’s “Yes, ma’am!” and now talking trash about them.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:27:25pm
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Belafon  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:27:32pm

re: #21 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The beauty of the voting booth is that it is private. No one can see who you voted for, you could vote for Clinton and lie your ass off to everyone else if you are dealing with “peer pressure”.

You could. But I don’t think some people will do it anyway. Some have to answer to the Republican God.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:28:10pm

re: #19 Belafon

“But I am pretty sure that there are people who are voting for Trump because of family or other peer pressure”

Perhaps. I’d hope that they would lie to their family about who they’re going to vote for but actually do the right thing and vote for Secretary Clinton. Wishful thinking on my part but that may happen quite a lot this time around.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:28:42pm
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That also enables the FAA to issue warning to not bring the devices on places in US airspace and on US carriers as well.

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BeachDem  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:28:49pm

re: #19 Belafon

We’ve talked about people who won’t vote for Trump but won’t vote for Clinton either, such as D_F. But I am pretty sure that there are people who are voting for Trump because of family or other peer pressure, but just don’t want him to win. Some of them might be in the anti-Clinton group, but not all of them.

There’s also the Brexit phenom—where people really didn’t want to Brexit, but figured it would never pass and looked at their votes as protest votes against whatever they thought they were protesting.

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Kragar  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:29:09pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:29:38pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

Not understanding where you are going? Why would they be voting for him and not want him to win?

Brexit ‘Regretters’ Say They ‘Weren’t Really Voting To Get Out Of The EU’

More and more people are now admitting that they regret voting to leave the European Union in last week’s referendum, with many claiming that they never intended to leave but simply wanted to “protest”.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:29:48pm

re: #24 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Can’t let the housewives watching see who he really is.

Utter crap.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:30:05pm

Front Pager at Red State realizes people only hated Obamacare/Obama because Obama was black.

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scottslemmons  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:30:49pm

I run a writing “quest” every Halloween at a website I’m a member of, and I always post an announcement about it in mid-September to give people a chance to start writing. I always include an essay about Halloween or horror, or a short fiction tidbit in the announcement — and I figured there was no way I could avoid including terrifying political fiction this year…

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:31:19pm

This is a very fucked up election. I have found myself agreeing with people that I absolutely have no sympathy for and that for me has been, interesting to say the least. It’s too easy to get bogged down in the minutia of purity. Our focus, all of our focus has to be on the defeat of Trump. Also, democrats have a real shot of taking the Senate back. Let’s not fuck this up. Sally Forth!!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:31:58pm

re: #30 Interesting Times

LOL! So they’re voting for something but don’t actually want it? Okay. That isn’t logical at all, but okay.

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BeachDem  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:32:00pm

re: #24 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:32:06pm

re: #14 Jebediah, RBG

What a fucking moron.

All that legacy money, wasted on his training.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:32:48pm

re: #35 Patricia Kayden

LOL! So they’re voting for something but don’t actually want it? Okay. That isn’t logical at all, but okay.

I wish logical had anything to do with this election. If it did, we’d be having people protesting that only George Washington should get all the votes.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:32:54pm

re: #27 lawhawk

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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:33:01pm

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will be too busy making accusations of fraud and manipulation and “foul play” that will have to be investigated because “many questions are unsanswered” and they will be styled as heroes and defenders of democracy.

Once Hillary is elected, the media are really going to turn on her, there will be no attempt at any kind of “balance”

I think you are describing what the media will do if Clinton wins.

If Trump wins, it will be very different. The first piece in the MSM that fails to adequately fluff POTUS Trump will be grounds for the worst attack on freedom of the press since the Alien and Sedition acts in the late 1700s.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:34:51pm

re: #24 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Geez…he really is a fat bastard. I have avoided watching him, so I hadn’t really noticed.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:35:13pm

re: #32 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Front Pager at Red State realizes people only hated Obamacare/Obama because Obama was black.

And he’s just figuring that out now that President Obama is about to leave office?

I scoff when some people predict that in a few years, Republicans will be praising Obama to the skies and claiming him as one of their own but those people may have a point. He currently has an approval rating of 58% and I’m sure that some Republicans are among those approving his performance.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:36:37pm

re: #19 Belafon

DF will vote for trump.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:37:50pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Spotted a day or two ago… the iPhone v. Galaxy note debate as nutshell for election:

One will infuriate you b/c it got rid of the headphone jack, and the other will work right until it destroys everything around it in a ball of malignant hellfire.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:38:45pm

re: #43 GlutenFreeJesus

DF will vote for trump.

We’ll crush Trump in IL, so that’s just a character flaw, rather than a threat to us all.

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scottslemmons  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:39:53pm

re: #40 EPR-radar

I think you are describing what the media will do if Clinton wins.

If Trump wins, it will be very different. The first piece in the MSM that fails to adequately fluff POTUS Trump will be grounds for the worst attack on freedom of the press since the Alien and Sedition acts in the late 1700s.

Media: “We love you, Donald! We love you forever!”
Trump: (puts all Hispanics in death camps)
Media: “We love you! You’re a genius!”
Trump: (sells Statue of Liberty to Putin)
Media: “You’re the greatest! Your hands are colossal!”
Trump: (shoots Melania, marries Ivanka)
Media: “You’re awesome! We’re totally jealous! Of Ivanka!”
Trump: (drops nuke on Ohio)
Media: “We looooove you! But ya know, our grandma lived in Parma…”
Trump: (puts media in death camps)

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:41:14pm

For those of you who might have thought Ivanka Stepford Trump was the “sane” “rational” “intelligent” Trump, she lost it bigly==>

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:43:09pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

For those of you who might have thought Ivanka Stepford Trump was the “sane” “rational” “intelligent” Trump, she lost it bigly==>

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:43:46pm

re: #27 lawhawk

On the other hand, it enables the US military to reskin these phone, have DAESH find them, then win the war with no more shots being fired.

// I wish.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:43:56pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:44:56pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

These are people who live in a bubble and the slightest bit of pushback is startling.

Ivanka has been sheltered from this, but because she’s taking a more prominent role (and pretty much cribbed her RNC speech by looking at Clinton child care and maternity leave plans and then dumbing them down by 50%) she’s getting scrutiny - and Cosmo was the ones who did it.

Trump’s plan is a hot mess, and the reporter pretty much let her know as much.

Ivanka, who has an opportunity to effectuate policy in the workplace at Trump businesses, made no effort to do so. Whatever FMLA is offered is the federal minimum, which was enacted, in part, courtesy of … Bill Clinton.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:45:50pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

Yeah, in any sane universe, the silly sex mag would not have given a serious journalistic challenge to her.

But we are not in that universe, are we?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:48:04pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

I’m no fan of Ivanka Trump or her family, obviously, but “white hot emotional meltdown” is a ridiculous exaggeration of her tweets. This is why I don’t really enjoy Raw Story; that headline is false.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:48:35pm

re: #51 lawhawk

These are people who live in a bubble and the slightest bit of pushback is startling.

Ivanka has been sheltered from this, but because she’s taking a more prominent role (and pretty much cribbed her RNC speech by looking at Clinton child care and maternity leave plans and then dumbing them down by 50%) she’s getting scrutiny - and Cosmo was the ones who did it.

Trump’s plan is a hot mess, and the reporter pretty much let her know as much.

Ivanka, who has an opportunity to effectuate policy in the workplace at Trump businesses, made no effort to do so. Whatever FMLA is offered is the federal minimum, which was enacted, in part, courtesy of … Bill Clinton.

The Trump children are what inbreeding looks like without sex.

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allegro  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:49:35pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

For those of you who might have thought Ivanka Stepford Trump was the “sane” “rational” “intelligent” Trump, she lost it bigly==>

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Wait… that’s it? Those 3 tweets are what Raw Story is calling a white-hot emotional meltdown?

Can we not with the fucking hyperbole? FFS

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:50:41pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I’m no fan of Ivanka Trump or her family, obviously, but “white hot emotional meltdown” is a ridiculous exaggeration of her tweets. This is why I don’t really enjoy Raw Story; that headline is false.

Here is the Cosmo article. I agree the Tweets were not as horrible as Daddy’s but she didn’t like to be asked hard questions, just like Daddy.

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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:51:17pm

re: #55 allegro

Wait… that’s it? Those 3 tweets are what Raw Story is calling a white-hot emotional meltdown?

Can we not with the fucking hyperbole? FFS

I read that ‘story’ and “where’s the beef?” is my response.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:51:26pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka Trump has white hot emotional online meltdown following disastrous Cosmo interview rawstory.com pic.twitter.com
— Raw Story (@RawStory) September 15, 2016

I don’t see see the “white hot emotional online meltdown”. Looks like RS clickbait.

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KGxvi  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:53:11pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Spotted a day or two ago… the iPhone v. Galaxy note debate as nutshell for election:

One will infuriate you b/c it got rid of the headphone jack, and the other will work right until it destroys everything around it in a ball of malignant hellfire.

I haven’t watched the full episode yet, but this clip from last night’s new South Park sums up my feelings pretty well:

southpark.cc.com

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ObserverArt  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:54:11pm

Shoot. And there I was trying to be reasonable in the last thread and take a hose to it to cool off some of the rhetoric. And Charles puts up a new thread.

Hmmmm. Maybe there is a reason for a new thread.

Chillin’!

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:55:26pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

But Goldman Sachs executives use iPhones, plus they are made by a corporation. Sometimes it’s better to blow everything up and start anew, to shake things up. I think I’ll go with the splodey phone to make a protest statement.

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(alpuz)  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:55:58pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I’m no fan of Ivanka Trump or her family, obviously, but “white hot emotional meltdown” is a ridiculous exaggeration of her tweets. This is why I don’t really enjoy Raw Story; that headline is false.

Yeah, it’s gotten really bad lately. Click. Bait.

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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:57:34pm

re: #61 Nyet

But Goldman Sachs executives use iPhones, plus they are made by a corporation. Sometimes it’s better to blow everything up and start anew, to shake things up. I think I’ll go with the splodey phone to make a protest statement.

This analogy can be tweaked a bit.

Sometimes it’s better to blow everything up and start anew, to shake things up. I think I’ll loudly advocate that other people go with the splodey phone to make a protest statement, while I quietly use the non-splodey phone.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:58:05pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 1:59:13pm

re: #21 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The beauty of the voting booth is that it is private. No one can see who you voted for, you could vote for Clinton and lie your ass off to everyone else if you are dealing with “peer pressure”.

i have a feeling there will be a lot of this

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danarchy  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:00:51pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I’m no fan of Ivanka Trump or her family, obviously, but “white hot emotional meltdown” is a ridiculous exaggeration of her tweets. This is why I don’t really enjoy Raw Story; that headline is false.

Yep, I pretty much skip Raw Story links these days. All of their headlines are clickbait. Either outright false or seriously misleading.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:01:50pm

re: #66 danarchy

Yep, I pretty much skip Raw Story links these days. All of their headlines are clickbait. Either outright false or seriously misleading.

At least they quit feeling the Bern.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:02:05pm

re: #64 dangerman

So, if pressed, he could certainly name some liberals who reacted to his wordpuke by calling for the abolishment of free speech, right?
I’m just going to sit here and hold my breath til he names them…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:03:09pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:08:52pm

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

This is the most stupid primitive aspect of her child care plan:

The policy is fleshed out online, so you can go see all the elements of it. But the original intention of the plan is to help mothers in recovery in the immediate aftermath of childbirth.

Recovery? Recovery after childbirth I would believe is one tiny part of child care. Caring for the child WHILE YOU GO TO WORK is the main thing.

She uses recovery as a way to exclude men from getting any benefit.

Primitive vapor.

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:11:55pm

re: #63 EPR-radar

It’s not that we’re for explosions. We’re against explosions that explode your ass. But how do we know an iPhone won’t explode your ass? In fact, of course it will. Even worse than that other phone (which we don’t like very much, but do choose). Also, it’s ugly and badly designed. We must do everything to stop it. Even if anyone’s ass gets exploded. I mean, YOLO, and we’ll all die in the end. So hold your nose and choose the splodey phone!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:13:40pm

What the media thinks is a good question:

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We have had very sick presidents, would did very well.

FDR aside from the Polio:

Roosevelt, who was a chain-smoker,[267][268] had been in declining health since at least 1940, and by 1944 he was noticeably fatigued. In March 1944, shortly after his 62nd birthday, he underwent testing at Bethesda Hospital and was found to have high blood pressure, atherosclerosis, coronary artery disease causing angina pectoris, and congestive heart failure.[269][270][271] Hospital physicians and two outside specialists ordered Roosevelt to rest. His personal physician, Admiral Ross McIntire, created a daily schedule that banned business guests for lunch and incorporated two hours of rest each day.

and JFK:

In 2002 Robert Dallek wrote an extensive history of Kennedy’s health. Dallek was able to consult a collection of Kennedy-associated papers from the years 1955-1963 including x-rays and prescription records from the files of White House physician Dr. Janet Travell. According to Travell’s records, during his Presidential years Kennedy suffered from: high fevers, stomach, colon, and prostate issues, abscesses, high cholesterol, and adrenal problems. Travell kept a “Medicine Administration Record,” cataloguing Kennedy’s medications: “injected and ingested corticosteroids for his adrenal insufficiency; procaine shots and ultrasound treatments and hot packs for his back; Lomotil, Metamucil, paregoric, phenobarbital, testosterone, and trasentine to control his diarrhea, abdominal discomfort, and weight loss; penicillin and other antibiotics for his urinary-tract infections and an abscess; and Tuinal to help him sleep.”[11]

Years after Kennedy’s death, it was revealed that in September 1947, while Kennedy was 30 and in his first term in Congress, he was diagnosed by Sir Daniel Davis at The London Clinic with Addison’s disease, a rare endocrine disorder. In 1966 Dr. Travell revealed that Kennedy also had hypothyroidism. The presence of two endocrine diseases raises the possibility that Kennedy had autoimmune polyendocrine syndrome type 2 (APS 2).[304]

Kennedy also suffered from chronic and severe back pain, for which he had surgery and was written up in the American Medical Association’s Archives of Surgery. Kennedy’s condition may have had diplomatic repercussions, as he appears to have been taking a combination of drugs to treat severe back pain during the 1961 Vienna Summit with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev. The combination included hormones, animal organ cells, steroids, vitamins, enzymes, and amphetamines, and possible potential side effects included hyperactivity, hypertension, impaired judgment, nervousness, and mood swings.[305] Kennedy at one time was regularly seen by no fewer than three doctors, one of whom, Max Jacobson, was unknown to the other two, as his mode of treatment was controversial[306] and used for the most severe bouts of back pain.[307]

There were disagreements among his doctors, into late 1961, over the proper balance of medication and exercise, with the president preferring the former as he was short on time and desired immediate relief.[198] During that time frame, the president’s physician, George Burkley, did set up some gym equipment in the White House basement where Kennedy did stretching exercises for his back three times a week.[308] Details of these and other medical problems were not publicly disclosed during Kennedy’s lifetime.[309] The President’s primary White House physician, George Burkley, realized that treatments by Jacobson and Travell, including the excessive use of steroids and amphetamines, were medically inappropriate, and took effective action to remove the president from their care.[310] It was later observed that President Kennedy’s leadership, (e.g. the 1962 Cuban Missile crisis and other events during 1963), improved greatly once the treatments of Jacobson had been discontinued and been replaced by a medically-appropriate regimen under Burkley. Dr. Ghaemi, who studied Kennedy’s medical records, concluded there was a “correlation; it is not causation; but it may not be coincidence either”.

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allegro  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:13:45pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

This is the most stupid primitive aspect of her child care plan:

Recovery? Recovery after childbirth I would believe is one tiny part of child care. Caring for the child WHILE YOU GO TO WORK is the main thing.

She uses recovery as a way to exclude men from getting any benefit.

Primitive vapor.

She’s also speaking as a mom with a fulltime nanny… the cost of which daddy’s big plan will allow her to deduct.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:13:50pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

This is the most stupid primitive aspect of her child care plan:

Recovery? Recovery after childbirth I would believe is one tiny part of child care. Caring for the child WHILE YOU GO TO WORK is the main thing.

She uses recovery as a way to exclude men from getting any benefit.

Primitive vapor.

its worse than that
by hooking onto recovery, she uses it as a way to “keep women in their place” by limiting their roles and possibilities

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:14:57pm
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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:16:37pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

Ben Garrison’s anger translator in action again! Heh. I almost feel bad for Ben. Almost. Nah. I don’t.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:16:53pm

re: #72 Ziggy_TARDIS

What the media thinks is a good question:

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We have had very sick presidents, would did very well.

FDR aside from the Polio:

and JFK:

i think were gonna see in a short time a lot of this doesnt matter

pneumonia is transient, nonchronic, treatable and a lot of people walk around with it

millions(?) have had pneumonia or something similar. some probably still went to work. they have perspective.

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ObserverArt  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:16:55pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
Like his father, Junior seems to have no idea what the Constitution actually says. @JoyAnnReid @DonaldJTrumpJr
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This politics stuff is all new to them. It is a shiny toy they think they can buy and play with. I wonder if any of them ever voted before except by bribe?

By the way…that Trump! He sure knows how to go after his Blacks.

I would have loved to have had a mic in his vehicle after he left that gig yesterday in Flint. I bet that was ripe,

Black vote now down in numbers. We are in the negatives now. How can there be negative votes? He’s at the point where crap like this will start to affect others sympathetic to the Reverend at the church, Blacks in general…and asking more to switch because he is a complete human asshole.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:17:47pm

re: #77 dangerman

That guy is a bad journalist.

In fact, I am going to tell him that. Hang on.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:18:57pm

Just stumbled up this and wanted to drop it off as I know there are a number of guitar aficionados here at LGF:

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From the article:

One evening in 1979, Ed Stilley, a preacher and homesteader in Hogscald Hollow, Arkansas, found himself feeling he had “no way out” after a deeply troubled period in his life. He fell asleep with a gun in his lap. He claims God then spoke to him in a dream, promising to “take care of the matter” as long as Stilley obeyed a strange command: make guitars and give them away to children for free.

When he awoke, Stilley put the gun away. Despite having none of the training or supplies needed for instrument-building, he began what would become a 30-year practice of hand-making guitars, ukuleles, violins, and dulcimers from scrap wood and found objects. He carved most of them with the words “True Faith True Light Have Faith in God” and, as he was instructed, gave them away free of charge. His spiritual despair — the exact cause of which he’s never made public — subsided. […]

hyperallergic.com

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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:20:10pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

I have seen something new today — a fractally offensive cartoon. New vistas of obnoxiousness open up as each detail is considered.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:20:30pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

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Garrison is possibly the most vile and racially incendiary American ‘cartoonist’ since Reconstruction.

His stuff would generally fit into periodicals from the 1870’s without much trouble at all.

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:20:48pm

re: #77 dangerman

As someone who once had to spend a few weeks in a Russian hospital with pneumonia (with IVs and all that stuff), I can say that Clinton’s “mild pneumonia” is almost nothing.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:21:59pm

re: #83 Nyet

She made exactly one mistake here, and it is probably the most common medical mistake in the world.

She should have gone to her Doctor before her allergies evolved into Pneumonia. If you are having a chronic health issue, GO TO THE DOCTOR!!!

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:22:14pm

re: #83 Nyet

As someone who once had to spend a few weeks in a Russian hospital with pneumonia (with IVs and all that stuff), I can say that Clinton’s “mild pneumonia” is almost nothing.

yup - it’s merely what they got right now

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:22:30pm

re: #81 EPR-radar

I have seen something new today — a fractally offensive cartoon. New vistas of obnoxiousness open up as each detail is considered.

There is a whole altright industry of “enhancing” Ben Garrison’s cartoons with antisemitism, more blatant racism and so on. This is not even the worst of them.

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ObserverArt  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:22:32pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

For those of you who might have thought Ivanka Stepford Trump was the “sane” “rational” “intelligent” Trump, she lost it bigly==>

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Why of course. She is daddy’s girl and proving to act like it now too.

Should they lose this election there is going to be a tidal wave of Trump butthurt.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:23:19pm
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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:24:07pm

But Garrison’s original cartoons seem to me to have been inspired by “A. Wyatt Mann“‘s cartoons in style and at least sometimes in substance.

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blueraven  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:24:10pm

re: #73 allegro

She’s also speaking as a mom with a fulltime nanny… the cost of which daddy’s big plan will allow her to deduct.

Probably not. Only deductible up to 500, 000 income level (for couples). I am sure they make much more than that.

But it doesn’t really help low income families.

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:25:29pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

Ever notice that if you get a bunch of Trumps together…

(continue the sentence)

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Scottishdragon  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:25:59pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

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I wonder when the press will actually start seriously vetting Trump as a serious contender for the POTUS and looking at the shit his kids say as surrogates…

I kid! Of course they won’t! Trump will keep saying right up to election day he will release his taxes eventually…and the press will keep nodding along.

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allegro  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:27:11pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:27:12pm

re: #91 Nyet

Ever notice that if you get a bunch of Trumps together…

(continue the sentence)

An angel loses its wings

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:28:24pm

re: #66 danarchy

Yep, I pretty much skip Raw Story links these days. All of their headlines are clickbait. Either outright false or seriously misleading.

I go there for TBogg—in fact that’s my bookmark: rawstory.com

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Dave In Austin  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:29:37pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:29:59pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

[Ever notice that if u get a herd of mothers together they arent physically capable of talking about anything but birth pregnancy & diapers?]

He’s an idiot. They are passionately involved in the most important work done by anyone, anywhere.

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blueraven  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:30:07pm

re: #91 Nyet

Ever notice that if you get a bunch of Trumps together…

(continue the sentence)

The sky turns a dark, ominous, purplish grey and the air, hot and fetid…

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:31:37pm

re: #80 CuriousLurker

Here’s a song using his instruments.

Take Me to the Other Side

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:33:32pm

re: #29 Kragar

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CuriousLurker  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:33:36pm

re: #99 baski deploribus derpum

Here’s a song using his instruments.

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Cool, thanks.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:34:26pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:35:45pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

He’s an idiot. They are passionately involved in the most important work done by anyone, anywhere.

I’m still stuck on the “herd” part… like a herd of cows or something? They’re human females, not farm animals. His mom must be SO proud. //

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:36:39pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:36:48pm

re: #99 baski deploribus derpum

Here’s a song using his instruments.

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They look ugly. They sound great. Instruments are all about the sound.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:37:27pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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for his info, “antisemetic” is literally not a word

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:39:03pm

re: #104 Nyet

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has putin had much experience with a recalcitrant congress?

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:39:13pm

Dunno if bull but so funny.

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And this is not so funny.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:39:34pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

Good to know that sexism has gone from the Father to the Son. How nice. I hope the media writes something about these tweets and finds some more along the same vein.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:39:38pm

re: #106 dangerman

re: #106 dangerman

for his info, “antisemetic” is literally not a word

But if you are going to read its tweet, an antiemetic is recommended.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:40:33pm

re: #110 BlueSpotinAL

But if you are going to read its tweet, an antiemetic is recommended.

the first time i glanced, that’s what i thought i saw

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:41:10pm

lol

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:41:28pm

re: #91 Nyet

Ever notice that if you get a bunch of Trumps together…

(continue the sentence)

a circle jerk begins?

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Lidane  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:41:33pm

*cough*

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CuriousLurker  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:42:07pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

They look ugly. They sound great. Instruments are all about the sound.

Like some people—maybe ugly on the outside, but if you listen to them for minute…

I would add this would be the exact opposite of the Orange Vulgarian & his offspring who, no matter how physically attractive, spew the ugliness of their rotten insides.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:42:21pm
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:43:14pm

re: #93 allegro

Not true. I’ve actually heard them discuss what assholes misogynist men can be, too.

Kinda what I wrote to him:

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:43:44pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

But but but Secretary Clinton was so mean to Trump supporters! She should apologize for hurting their fee fees.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:44:23pm

re: #107 dangerman

has putin had much experience with a recalcitrant congress?

Boris Yeltsin did. I think this is more like what Trump has in mind:

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:44:35pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:45:12pm

re: #115 CuriousLurker

Like some people—maybe ugly on the outside, but if you listen to them for minute…

I would add this would be the exact opposite of the Orange Vulgarian & his offspring who, no matter how physically attractive, spew the ugliness of their rotten insides.

At least his male offspring look like actors from a bad B movie playing an inbred hick family.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:46:41pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Someone should forward these lovely tweets to Ben Shapiro since he seems confused about who hates him.

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blueraven  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:46:59pm

re: #112 Nyet

lol

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wut?

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:48:14pm

re: #123 blueraven

The anti-media hysteria is as alive on the right as it is on the left.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:49:01pm

re: #51 lawhawk

These are people who live in a bubble and the slightest bit of pushback is startling.

Ivanka has been sheltered from this, but because she’s taking a more prominent role (and pretty much cribbed her RNC speech by looking at Clinton child care and maternity leave plans and then dumbing them down by 50%) she’s getting scrutiny - and Cosmo was the ones who did it.

Trump’s plan is a hot mess, and the reporter pretty much let her know as much.

Ivanka, who has an opportunity to effectuate policy in the workplace at Trump businesses, made no effort to do so. Whatever FMLA is offered is the federal minimum, which was enacted, in part, courtesy of … Bill Clinton.

Ivanka doesn’t even implement anything resembling support for working women in her OWN DAMNED COMPANY.

feckin’ biatch…

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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:49:28pm

re: #91 Nyet

Ever notice that if you get a bunch of Trumps together…

(continue the sentence)

A gate to the 9th circle of Hell starts to open, accented by a bloody rain and sulfurous fumes from great cracks in the earth.

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KGxvi  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:50:25pm

re: #114 Lidane

*cough*

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“Legacy”… is that the euphemism we’re using now? Also, fruit flies have longer legacies than Trump.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:50:27pm

Forget The Face on Mars™. The Curiosity rover has found a Trump statue on Mars:

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:50:29pm

re: #117 Eventual Carrion

Kinda what I wrote to him:

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OMG! You’re an orange egg! (That I’m following.)

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:51:11pm

Putting it under spoiler, a graphic image, but that’s what a huge part of altright boils down to.

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allegro  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:55:25pm

re: #103 CuriousLurker

I’m still stuck on the “herd” part… like a herd of cows or something? They’re human females, not farm animals. His mom must be SO proud. //

Bet his wife and mother of his children has some warm fuzzies as well.

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KGxvi  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:56:14pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ivanka doesn’t even implement anything resembling support for working women in her OWN DAMNED COMPANY.

feckin’ biatch…

YOU CAN’T XPECT A BUZINES TO OFFER BENNFITS TO EMPLOYEES THAT OTHER BUZINESSSES DON’T, THAT’S HOW THEY LOSE MONEY AND FAIL! AND tRUMP IS NOT A FAILURE! HE’S THE BEST, HE SAYS SO ALL THE TIME!! BUT YOU ALSO CAN’T LET THE GOVERNMENT IMPOSE THEIR TYRRANY ON BUSINESSES BY REQUIRING THESE THINGS!! IF EMPLOYEES REALLY WANTED THEM, THEY’D NEGOTIATE FOR THEM, THAT’S HOW THREE MARKED WROKS!!1! READ A EKNONICS BOOK SOMETIME, YOU DUMB LIEBRAL!!12!

Or something…

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blueraven  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:56:43pm

re: #124 Nyet

The anti-media hysteria is as alive on the right as it is on the left.

My beef with the media is their claims of, and effort towards, “balance”.

For example, CNN can NOT cover any story without having a seated panel consisting of at least:
1 Trump surrogate
1 Clinton surrogate
1 anti Trump Republican
1 centrist Democrat
2 “objective” analysts

It is ridiculous and false. I can’t watch CNN when they do this.

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:57:00pm

re: #112 Nyet

Is that real?

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 2:59:20pm

re: #134 baski deploribus derpum

Is that real?

Sort of, wasn’t CNN proper, rather its spin-off.

thehill.com

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:00:32pm

re: #133 blueraven

I have no problem with pointed criticism. I’ve been a MediaMatters reader since 2004 and there’s nothing new one can tell me about media failures. But the rhetoric I’ve been reading lately is just dumb.

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makeitstop  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:03:53pm

Greetz from the theater district of lovely Boston, right on the very edge of Chinatown!

The wife and I already went out for a walkabout earlier, and we’re back at the hotel hanging around until dinner. Nice place you got here, Bostoners.

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:05:25pm

re: #131 allegro

Bet his wife and mother of his children has some warm fuzzies as well.

He’s probably talking about his wife and his mother. They’re the ones who’ve been around him.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:06:49pm

re: #137 makeitstop

Hey, sorry about your kitty.

Have a lobster roll for me.

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:07:15pm

re: #137 makeitstop

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:09:16pm
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jaunte  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:14:13pm
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“…Part of Bondi’s claim has been ignorance — that she didn’t even know her office had been asked to probe Trump.

If so, she was just about the only one in her office who didn’t know what was going on.

I found emails from Aug. 30, 2013 — more than two weeks before Bondi’s campaign took the money from Trump — copied to Bondi’s chief of staff, deputy attorney general, assistant attorney general and spokeswoman that mention the New York Attorney General pursuing a case against Trump University and noting that Florida complaints were involved.”
orlandosentinel.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:16:40pm

Trumps African American outreach basically amounts to an outstretched arm with a protruding middle finger.

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allegro  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:17:21pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

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That’s one of my favorites to pounce on with the Libertarian types when they get all “no more regulations!” I look at them funny and say “Huh, I like being able to go to the grocery store and not worry so much about dying from what I buy there. Kinda pleased I can take a shower in water that isn’t toxic or flammable too and go outside without a gas mask. Don’t you?”

Thus far it has been a very successful method of accomplishing STFU.

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blueraven  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:21:34pm

This is great!

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:22:01pm

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

Trumps African American outreach basically amounts to an outstretched arm with a tiny protruding middle finger.

Tiny addition.

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Nyet  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:22:46pm

re: #145 blueraven

wow!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:26:12pm

re: #145 blueraven

This is great!

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blueraven  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:30:50pm

re: #147 Nyet

wow!

Kander to Roy Blunt - come at me bro

Really great to see a Democrat fight back on guns without adopting NRA talking points. Most of us are fine with the 2A, but believe in sensible regulation.

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freetoken  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:31:37pm

The small-time precursor to Drumpfskind?

Philippine hitman says he heard Duterte order killings

“He ordered us to kill Muslims,” Matobato said.

Duterte’s allies of course are trying to discredit the Matobato. And maybe he doesn’t have any credibility. Yet it seems a lot of people a have been killed around Duterte over the years.

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scottslemmons  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:32:14pm

re: #145 blueraven

This is great!

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Roy Blunt is currently wondering why everyone he knows keeps bringing him aloe vera lotion.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:33:55pm

re: #151 scottslemmons

Roy Blunt is currently wondering why everyone he knows keeps bringing him aloe vera lotion.

Blunt will still win with 70% of the vote.

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freetoken  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:45:54pm

Sarkozy seems to be inching towards the Drumpfskindepoche:

Sarkozy comes out of the closet as a climate skeptic

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“Climate has been changing for four billion years,” the former president said according to AFP. “Sahara has become a desert, it isn’t because of industry. You need to be as arrogant as men are to believe we changed the climate.”

[…]

Sarkozy was also angry at the amount of global media coverage given to the COP21 climate change conference in Paris last year, that was hailed a success not just for the future of the earth but for the Socialist government who helped force through an historic deal.

Sarkozy believes the media should have been concentrating on the Paris terror attacks, that occurred just weeks before on November 13th.

The comments of course are full of derp.

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Frankie Five Angels  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:48:24pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

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A herd of mothers?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:49:28pm

Totally O/T but in re: Joe Hill’s The Fireman:

YES, WE ARE TAKING THE FUCKING CAT WITH US, STFU, END OF DISCUSSION!

oh, and yes…that was Democracy in action…

SPOILER: sorry not sorry…

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Timothy Watson  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:49:41pm

re: #154 Frankie Five Angels

A herd of mothers?

Worse than a murder of crows.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:50:29pm

re: #153 freetoken

Sarkozy seems to be inching towards the Drumpfskindepoche:

Sarkozy comes out of the closet as a climate skeptic

The comments of course are full of derp.

Great. This could be one of those eras that future generations look back on and ask, “What the fuck were they thinking? The signs were all there, but they ignored them.”

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:51:10pm
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The group started sending fliers to Phoenix-area voters two weeks ago, and a mailing last week accuses Arpaio of separating a mother from her child because of an unpaid traffic ticket, botching hundreds of sex crimes investigations and scaring immigrants so much that that they don’t report crime.

Arpaio denies the claims and is easily capable of striking back with a formidable $2.9 million still available for campaign spending ahead of the Nov. 8 vote, dwarfing the total $326,000 raised by his challenger, Democrat Paul Penzone, a former Phoenix police sergeant who lost to Arpaio by 6 percentage points in 2012.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:51:25pm
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Timothy Watson  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:51:30pm

re: #153 freetoken

Sarkozy seems to be inching towards the Drumpfskindepoche:

Sarkozy comes out of the closet as a climate skeptic

The comments of course are full of derp.

Sounds like someone has some serious sour grapes over losing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:53:39pm

re: #84 Ziggy_TARDIS

She made exactly one mistake here, and it is probably the most common medical mistake in the world.

She should have gone to her Doctor before her allergies evolved into Pneumonia. If you are having a chronic health issue, GO TO THE DOCTOR!!!

good freaking grief…SHE DID!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:54:20pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

OMG! You’re an orange egg! (That I’m following.)

People always goof about the egg thing, so I left it. I only use twitter to poke those idiots anyway. I never read anything tweeted back or mentioned. I just don’t care.

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petesh  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:57:30pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…SHE DID!!!

But she did NOT do it exactly when, where and how I would have done it, so it doesn’t count.

Like you (I suspect), I am getting very tired of this shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 15, 2016 • 3:59:07pm

re: #163 petesh

But she did NOT do it exactly when, where and how I would have done it, so it doesn’t count.

Like you (I suspect), I am getting very tired of this shit.

This! This! A thousand times THIS!!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:04:32pm

re: #154 Frankie Five Angels

A herd of mothers?

“Chattel” was too hard to pronounce.

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plansbandc  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:07:00pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

Welp, that wins the most racist thing I’ve seen online since the cartoon of Obama hanging by a noose.

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gocart mozart  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:08:40pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:09:24pm

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

I am “loving” the pundits and commentators trying to draw some kind of equivalency between “she didn’t instantly tell us she had pneumonia” and Trump’s “gonna show my medical records - ha ha PSYCH have this Dr Oz shitshow instead suckers!”
THAT fucker can’t even be honest about how much he weighs, even though we’ve all seen that pic of him golfing where his ass looks like a pair of over-sized Christmas hams and the muffintop could feed a family of four.
And, I swear to Dog, I almost never indulge in body criticizing… but I make an exception for the asshole who has called more women “fat pigs” than I can recall.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:10:51pm

re: #168 Jebediah, RBG

I am “loving” the pundits and commentators trying to draw some kind of equivalency between “she didn’t instantly tell us she had pneumonia” and Trump’s “gonna show my medical records - ha ha PSYCH have this Dr Oz shitshow instead suckers!”
THAT fucker can’t even be honest about how much he weighs, even though we’ve all seen that pic of him golfing where his ass looks like a pair of over-sized Christmas hams and the muffintop could feed a family of four.
And, I swear to Dog, I almost never indulge in body criticizing… but I make an exception for the asshole who has called more women “fat pigs” than I can recall.

There are days where he really, sorely tests my commitment to not participate in any of it.

I admit, today I am still very much on edge and in a “just burn down all humanity” mood so that’s probably not a good day to evaluate on.

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:13:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:17:20pm

re: #145 blueraven

This is great!

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In the comments at the tweet…oh, dear…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:17:45pm

re: #104 Nyet

I’m surprised he doesn’t have his own show on RT America yet.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:18:03pm

re: #169 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I admit, today I am still very much on edge and in a “just burn down all humanity” mood so that’s probably not a good day to evaluate on.

Well, the “good” news is, no matter how little or how long it takes to for that mood to pass, Trump will still be King UberAsshole.
And as much as I despise Trump (I’m a trump-hating hipster - I’ve hated him since the late 80’s, way before it was cool, man) I still do feel a little squidgy and uncomfortable with what I wrote there. There is an endless supply of substantial issues about which to criticize that lying, hateful skinbag.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:19:54pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

In the comments at the tweet…oh, dear…

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It’s corruption for political parties to ensure that their nominee gets through a convention without a massive embarrassment?

(Mission failed for the GOP of course.)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:22:39pm

Media hasn’t shifted on their narrative yet.

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MsJ  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:27:35pm

re: #6 Kragar

Podhoretz blocked me. What did he say?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:31:03pm

re: #178 MsJ

Ditto here.

I did take my meds, and they are helping, but at the same time, I still feel incredibly scared.

The media seems to be out to get Trump to win.

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MsJ  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:34:37pm

re: #19 Belafon

Edit: The idea behind the question is that there are some people who want to keep their hands clean - I voted for the Republican - but don’t want him to actually be able to mess with anything.

My specific reason for calling trump the American Brexit:

Sold by the media.

Ignoramuses voting Yes but having no clue what it means.

Didn’t really want it but were unhappy with circumstances. Shocked, SHOCKED! Yes won.

Regrets their vote.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:35:36pm

re: #180 MsJ

Problem is, if he gets elected, we have a 2 possible Genocides in the US.

That’s how I view it.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:36:27pm
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:37:38pm

Just ran across this in reference to tRumps weight.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:37:48pm

re: #181 Ziggy_TARDIS

It seems the media is ok with that though.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:37:55pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

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This is hilarious.

And he obvs didn’t get a colonoscopy that day.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:38:50pm

From the WTF Files…

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gocart mozart  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:40:25pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now.]

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MsJ  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:41:27pm

re: #32 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Front Pager at Red State realizes people only hated Obamacare/Obama because Obama was black.

Man, I can’t stand this election. I’m agreeing way too much with people I never, ever thought (or desired) to do so.

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gocart mozart  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:42:45pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:43:24pm

re: #188 MsJ

I just want to feel safe.

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gocart mozart  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:44:24pm
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jaunte  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:44:54pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:45:53pm

He’s emboldend. He’s dangerous to himself when he’s emboldend.

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Skip Intro  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:46:58pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

I wish I could agree with you.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:47:32pm

re: #194 Skip Intro

Yeah, media is going all out. They don’t care if people get killed.

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Skip Intro  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:51:39pm

re: #195 Ziggy_TARDIS

The only way Trump becomes dangerous to himself is if the media turns on him.

I don’t see that happening in general, and Fox/CNN never will.

Maybe the “debates” will change things, but seeing how Trump is allowed to run completely out of control, I’m beginning to doubt it. People seem to want a hard right dictator now, and Trump is their guy all the way.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:54:44pm

Sky still appears to be up there from my neck of the woods.

Election hasn’t been lost yet.

Just saying.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:54:54pm

re: #196 Skip Intro

I will go renew my passport. then.

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freetoken  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:55:06pm

The Birchers are once again citing dowsing proponent Nils-Axel Mörner to deny climate change.

Those folk refuse to change. Reality has no meaning to them.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:56:46pm

In 2 weeks, I went from being optimistic, to resigning myself to the need to become a refugee next year.

Thanks media. I hope you burn in hell.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:58:29pm

Thread needs cat pictures.

New cat takes snooze and stores kitten energy in her tail for later use
Your shipment of cuteness has arrived!
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Skip Intro  Sep 15, 2016 • 4:58:58pm

re: #198 Ziggy_TARDIS

I will go renew my passport. then.

That’s always a good idea, no matter what.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:00:00pm

re: #201 Feline Fearless Leader

Thread needs cat pictures.

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Meme generator throwback Thursday!
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scottslemmons  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:01:02pm

re: #195 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah, media is going all out. They don’t care if people get killed.

Heck, they’re looking forward to it. Can you imagine the ratings!?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:01:34pm

I just keep going back to the #PANIC after Obama fucked up that debate with Romney.

Keep calm, volunteer & vote.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:02:03pm

re: #205 Stanley Sea

Media will spin everything.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:02:45pm

I’m sticking around right now pretty much just for the cat pictures. The doom and gloom and sky falling is getting a little old.

Spock cat does not approve of the logic on display - or lack of.
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makeitstop  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:03:07pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

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Ours was a boy kitty. I hope the one by you is a good kitty like mine.

Pippen was a rescue - he was a gas station cat in town, feral but hung around the station for food scraps. He got hit by a car and they took him to the animal hospital. They put cast on his broken front right leg, but it got infected and he was left with a permanently bent leg.

My wife and I were the only humans he trusted. If anyone came into the house he’d run and hide. Our friends called him the invisible cat, because very few of them actually got to see him.

He was very close to our oldest cat, who we lost last December. I know that cats aren’t really supposed to be social animals, but Pippen got sick right after he lost his big brother. My wife thinks he depended on the big cat, and when he died, Pippen just gave up.

When we’re back home, we’re going to see about adopting brother and sister kittens. Hopefully they’ll be as cool as my little guy was. I miss him already.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:05:38pm

re: #204 scottslemmons

Wrong Is Right - real classic movie trailer

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:06:48pm

On the internet no one knows you’re a cat

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:07:19pm

re: #91 Nyet

Ever notice that if you get a bunch of Trumps together…

(continue the sentence)

“Bunch” does not seem like the right word to describe a group of Trumps

A Fart of Trumps
A Blow of Trumps
A Grump of Trumps
A Gambol of Trumps

Feel free to make up your own

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jaunte  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:08:18pm
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Worth reading this thread on the Trump Foundation.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:08:25pm

Sorry for the doom & gloom but this is honestly how I see a potential Trump Presidency playing out.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:09:19pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

That’s how I am reading it too, though I would add death camps to the scenario.

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TedStriker  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:09:27pm

re: #198 Ziggy_TARDIS

I will go renew my passport. then.

OH FFS…

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gocart mozart  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:10:40pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:12:36pm

re: #215 TedStriker

Explain to me how things will get better?

The media won’t cover an negative Trump stories, and will constantly spin against Clinton. How does this get better?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:13:47pm

re: #217 Ziggy_TARDIS

Explain to me how things will get better?

The media won’t cover an negative Trump stories, and will constantly spin against Clinton. How does this get better?

So, did you call any of the volunteer offices today? Talk to anyone there about how you can help? Make a donation?

219
wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:14:05pm

re: #208 makeitstop

Littermates is the way to go. Mine are 8 years old now. They romp with each other every day. They are very social, with their peoples as well as each other. There were three more in the litter at the pound. Once in a while I wonder what it would be like if I had taken all of them.

My local Pippen doesn’t look anything like your late sweety. She has a brother at the home of her owner’s brother. She rolls around in the dust of the driveway for a scritch when I’m leaving for work. Or maybe she’s trying to trip me….

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:14:58pm

re: #219 wrenchwench

Littermates is the way to go. Mine are 8 years old now. They romp with each other every day. They are very social, with their peoples as well as each other. There were three more in the litter at the pound. Once in a while I wonder what it would be like if I had taken all of them.

My local Pippen doesn’t look anything like your late sweety. She has a brother at the home of her owner’s brother. She rolls around in the dust of the driveway for a scritch when I’m leaving for work. Or maybe she’s trying to trip me….

Although. If you get littermates. Don’t wait a year in between adopting them.

I think Esther would have preferred if we’d left William there, but he was still with the rescue group a year later and I love my fuzzy boy even if she doesn’t.

221
lawhawk  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:16:17pm

re: #183 Eventual Carrion

Baron Harkonnen needs a heart plug installed on Christie… he’s straying too much from the message. Rudy will do nicely.

///////

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:16:23pm

re: #217 Ziggy_TARDIS

Explain to me how things will get better?

The media won’t cover an negative Trump stories, and will constantly spin against Clinton. How does this get better?

We vote.

Are you registered?

223
Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:17:07pm

re: #218 klys (maker of Silmarils)

None, but I will go to the office in Dallas tomorrow.

I am just afraid nothing I do will help. The media wants Muslims dead.

224
Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:17:15pm

re: #222 wrenchwench

Yes.

225
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:17:46pm

re: #223 Ziggy_TARDIS

None, but I will go to the office in Dallas tomorrow.

I am just afraid nothing I do will help. The media wants Muslims dead.

Congratulations. Every day you walk around terrified, they’re winning.

226
Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:18:42pm

re: #225 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have a right to be terrified. I would be one of the ones put in the camps.Along with my second family.

227
Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:18:55pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

“Bunch” does not seem like the right word to describe a group of Trumps

A Fart of Trumps
A Blow of Trumps
A Grump of Trumps
A Gambol of Trumps

Feel free to make up your own

A Steaming Pile of Trumps

228
EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:19:34pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

A revoltation of Trumphhroids.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:19:59pm

re: #208 makeitstop

Ours was a boy kitty. I hope the one by you is a good kitty like mine.

Pippen was a rescue - he was a gas station cat in town, feral but hung around the station for food scraps. He got hit by a car and they took him to the animal hospital. They put cast on his broken front right leg, but it got infected and he was left with a permanently bent leg.

My wife and I were the only humans he trusted. If anyone came into the house he’d run and hide. Our friends called him the invisible cat, because very few of them actually got to see him.

He was very close to our oldest cat, who we lost last December. I know that cats aren’t really supposed to be social animals, but Pippen got sick right after he lost his big brother. My wife thinks he depended on the big cat, and when he died, Pippen just gave up.

When we’re back home, we’re going to see about adopting brother and sister kittens. Hopefully they’ll be as cool as my little guy was. I miss him already.

I know how that is. Since we lost Pumpkin Labor Day Sunday, our other little tabby, Killer, is just bereft. I hope he cheers up eventually, but he’s just very hungry for affection now. We try to give it to him….

I’m trying to get used to Pumpkin not being here, but just now Killer yawned at me and I thought how I’ll never again see Pumpkin yawn so big his whole head disappears, and I start feeling sad, too.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:20:26pm

re: #218 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So, did you call any of the volunteer offices today? Talk to anyone there about how you can help? Make a donation?

If he volunteers, he might get laid.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:20:40pm

re: #226 Ziggy_TARDIS

I have a right to be terrified. I would be one of the ones put in the camps.Along with my second family.

And yet the only thing you do with your fear is work yourself into an even more fearful state.

Also fuck your idea that you’re the only person who would suffer under a Trump presidency.

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:23:08pm

re: #224 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yes.

Good. Then you will help make it better.

Vote as soon as early voting starts.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:25:22pm

re: #231 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know I am not the only one. But at the same time, I am one of the 2 targeted groups that would end up having memorial.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:27:42pm

re: #233 Ziggy_TARDIS

I know I am not the only one. But at the same time, I am one of the 2 targeted groups that would end up having memorial.

The media isn’t the only one holding onto a narrative here.

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MsJ  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:32:37pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

Jesus. That’s terrifying. And they’re proud.

Shoot me now.

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MsJ  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:37:04pm

re: #190 Ziggy_TARDIS

I just want to feel safe.

I know you do but you’re worrying yourself sick for no reason. Nothing has happened. We are weeks away.

You should step away from politics for a while. This simply is not healthy for you at the moment.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:38:56pm

re: #236 MsJ

Politics is my safe place when I am lonely. :(

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:41:02pm

re: #210 Feline Fearless Leader

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Nice B-29 wallpaper. Is Kitty the Command or Co pilot?

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MsJ  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:46:29pm

re: #237 Ziggy_TARDIS

Politics is my safe place when I am lonely. :(

Find a new hobby. Seriously. You are not in a healthy space. You NEED to step away for your own mental health. Get a cat. Take up golf or bowling…something.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:48:23pm

re: #217 Ziggy_TARDIS

How?
It gets better when trump can’t even get to 200 electoral college votes.
He is going to get fucking shellacked in November.
Doesn’t anyone remember the media and Romney and Obama? Romney’s presidency didn’t turn out too bad, did it?

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:50:20pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

a disgust of trumps

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 15, 2016 • 5:53:24pm

re: #112 Nyet

TV producers routinely blur images that might be copyrighted or trademarked, to avoid paying potential royalty fees. There’s no political motive, but Molyneux probably doesn’t realize this.


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