Astonishing Video From NASA/JPL: Four Days at Saturn

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NASA’s Cassini spacecraft stared at Saturn for nearly 44 hours in April 2016 to obtain this movie showing four Saturn days.

Cassini will begin a series of dives between the planet and its rings in April 2017, building toward a dramatic end of mission — a final plunge into the planet, six months later.

For more information about the Cassini-Huygens mission visit saturn.jpl.nasa.gov and nasa.gov.

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:36:03pm
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SteelPH  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:38:45pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

I’ve seen previews of it on FXX. What a load of shit.

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KGxvi  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:41:19pm

Megan Rapoine knelt for the national anthem tonight in the USNWT game against Thailand. US Soccer released a statement that is simply mind blowing in its tone deafness…

In front of national and often global audiences, the playing of our national anthem is an opportunity for our Men’s and Women’s National Team players and coaches to reflect upon the liberties and freedom we all appreciate in this country. As part of the privilege to represent your country, we have an expectation that our players and coaches will stand and honor our flag while the national anthem is played.

Contemplate your liberties and freedom, just don’t express them… I really got nothing

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:42:23pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:42:33pm

re: #2 SteelPH

I’ve seen previews of it on FXX. What a load of shit.

We went to see Kubo and the Two Strings and had something of a teaser for it there and I was irate.

This looked a lot better.

STORKS - Official Trailer 3

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:42:34pm

The Cassini spacecraft launched in 1997 and the mission is still not done. NASA scientists and engineers working on this sonofabitch are fucking amazing people.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:50:31pm

Meds should be kicking in soon, to allow me to sleep.

I hope tomorrow will have good news. I need it.

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:51:46pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

The Cassini spacecraft launched in 1997 and the mission is still not done. NASA scientists and engineers working on this sonofabitch are fucking amazing people.

Yup. Just an extraordinary bit of human genius.

And with tech that old! Imagine what we could do with today’s tech.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:51:51pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

The Cassini spacecraft launched in 1997 and the mission is still not done. NASA scientists and engineers working on this sonofabitch are fucking amazing people.

Cassini launched when those constant gyro failures were still a mystery. They finally figured out that spinning them up with compressed air during testing to spare the motors was oxidizing the copper printed circuit traces that powered them. Switching to nitrogen solved the problem. That discovery came while Cassini was on its way, and had had two gyros fail before even reaching Jupiter, so I was really sweating the whole thing out. Who would have thought the last three—the minimum complement—would last for 20 years?

I still think the Huygens probe landing on Titan will be the pinnacle for space exploration in my lifetime.

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:52:36pm

re: #7 Ziggy_TARDIS

Meds should be kicking in soon, to allow me to sleep.

I hope tomorrow will have good news. I need it.

Please sleep well.

And do know that there’s good news everywhere all the time. You just have to seek it out. Media hates good news, bad copy. But if you put your heart into it, the internet is chock full of good news everyday all the time.

Take care.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:53:08pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

I know. I meant for the election.

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:54:18pm

re: #9 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I still think the Huygens probe landing on Titan will be the pinnacle for space exploration in my lifetime.

Will that happen?!? I don’t pay enough attention to these things.

Still, what about Rosetta and the comet?!?

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:55:51pm

re: #11 Ziggy_TARDIS

Hillary Clinton will be the first woman president in the history of our country. You can take that to the bank. Trust me.

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:56:12pm

re: #3 KGxvi

Good for her bad for the idiots that keep football from becoming as big here as it is everywhere else.

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Jenner7  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:56:47pm

Whoa. I see the video follows me. Is this new??

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:57:06pm

re: #15 Jenner7

Whoa. I see the video follows me. Is this new??

Last night’s feature addition.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:57:08pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

Will that happen?!? I don’t pay enough attention to these things.

Still, what about Rosetta and the comet?!?

Huygens landed in January 2005. Rosetta was great. It’s just that Titan is such a fascinating moon—and we had Voyager 1 go right by it without seeing anything, then waited 24 years for another try.

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:58:34pm

re: #3 KGxvi

Megan Rapoine knelt for the national anthem tonight in the USNWT game against Thailand. US Soccer released a statement that is simply mind blowing in its tone deafness…

Contemplate your liberties and freedom, just don’t express them… I really got nothing

Pinoe is an inspiration for girls and young women across the country. Stand up to power! Break through barriers and make your own path!

Men don’t run this country anymore. It’s run by Americans, and they can see the good as well as the warts, and respond appropriately. This statement by US Soccer is just stupid PR bullshit. Fuck ‘em.

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Jenner7  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:58:52pm

Wow. Thank you, Charles. This is a great feature.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:59:05pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 9:59:26pm

re: #15 Jenner7

Whoa. I see the video follows me. Is this new??

Yes it is! It will prove handy and efficient during political speeches and debates. Just click on the X to get rid of it.

Charles is the best, ain’t he?!?

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:00:10pm

Shit, I’m coming across as a

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:00:37pm

re: #17 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Huygens landed in January 2005. Rosetta was great. It’s just that Titan is such a fascinating moon—and we had Voyager 1 go right by it without seeing anything, then waited 24 years for another try.

Titan has oceans of methane, with a weather cycle based on that liquid. There’s a remote possibility of life there, as well.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:00:56pm

re: #9 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Cassini launched when those constant gyro failures were still a mystery. They finally figured out that spinning them up with compressed air during testing to spare the motors was oxidizing the copper printed circuit traces that powered them. Switching to nitrogen solved the problem. That discovery came while Cassini was on its way, and had had two gyros fail before even reaching Jupiter, so I was really sweating the whole thing out. Who would have thought the last three—the minimum complement—would last for 20 years?

I still think the Huygens probe landing on Titan will be the pinnacle for space exploration in my lifetime.

I hope to live long enough to see man step foot on Mars for the first time. Whether we want to admit it or not, we can’t stay on this rock forever.

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:02:17pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

Shit, I’m coming across as a

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Yes, yes you are.

Repent!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:03:30pm

re: #25 austin_blue

Yes, yes you are.

Repent!

Completely unrelated: so have you done the Islay area in Scotland? Any recommendations? The mr. and I definitely want to hit it at some point, and there’s a family wedding in the UK next July…

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petesh  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:07:31pm

Gee, that awesome video takes me back to days of wonder when I was seven years old and encountered Dan Dare, and of course The Mekon, in Eagle magazine, to which I subscribed. Granny would read The Times (with the classifieds on the front page) in bed, and I would read the Eagle. I’ve still got the clock that chimed as we did this. This is what being a grown-up was supposed to be like.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:12:31pm

DAMNIT…edited

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:13:13pm

I had to ski down from this point. It was crazy, and so much fun! A line I won’t soon forget.

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Top of Third Bowl, Crested Butte. Difficult skiing, no doubt about it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:14:25pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

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Heh, good point. He insisted for years that the birth certificate released in 2011 wasn’t the real one, so he didn’t have to meet the obligation he set for himself. Well, if he’s now saying that it’s authentic, then he’s obligated to release his tax returns.

Watch for him to say that was never “serious” or that he will full the obligation…after the election.

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:14:51pm

Shit, if I’m sharing my own Instagram pictures … here’s another.

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28 Beaver Creek

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:15:03pm

#28 has been edited….posted wrong link

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:15:32pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

That’s beautiful!

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:15:42pm

I’ve been hoping for the video feature for years, it’ll be great for speeches and debates. Thanks Charles!

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:16:30pm

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Completely unrelated: so have you done the Islay area in Scotland? Any recommendations? The mr. and I definitely want to hit it at some point, and there’s a family wedding in the UK next July…

We have not. We’ve done a week on Skye (which for a geologist is just a wet dream). She Who Must Be Obeyed was taking a course there and I hitchhiked and bussed all over the island, banging on rocks, walking faults, and climbing intrusive plutons, which are not nearly as dirty as they sound. It was glorious.

Islay is small, reached by ferry, and can be completely covered in two or three days. Iain Banks wrote a travelogue published in 2003 where he was paid (!!) to visit every active distillery in Scotland (Raw Spirit). Check it out at the library and give it a read. It’s a lovely book by a wonderful author who was taken from us far too quickly by, of all things, cancer of the gall bladder (who knew?).

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:19:33pm

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:20:09pm

re: #36 baski deploribus derpum

We’ve come a long way, baby!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:23:55pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:25:21pm

I can remember Sputnik in 1957. There have been many wonders since, and I hope to see many more.

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:26:21pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

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Outlaw X-Men.

WHA…

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:27:14pm

I had new tires put on at the auto center yesterday, and while I was waiting I walked over to a local 2nd hand instruments store. I’ve been wanting a 12 string for a while now and I found this 12 string that is an exact match for a guitar I’ve had for about 25 years, so I had to buy it ($150).

Side by side
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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:27:41pm

re: #3 KGxvi

Megan Rapoine knelt for the national anthem tonight in the USNWT game against Thailand. US Soccer released a statement that is simply mind blowing in its tone deafness…

Contemplate your liberties and freedom, just don’t express them… I really got nothing

The Clash - Know Your Rights

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:29:12pm

Here’s a fisheye view stitched together from Huygen’s descent images. The landing site would be about in the middle.

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:30:03pm

re: #43 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here’s a fisheye view stitched together from Huygen’s descent images. The landing site would be about in the middle.

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Sauron!!

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:30:30pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

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Because if there were X-men he would be introducing legislation to outlaw them.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:32:21pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Hillary Clinton will be the first woman president in the history of our country. You can take that to the bank. Trust me.

I’m fairly confident of that.

What I’m less confident of is getting her a legislature more amenable to cooperation than a cage of shit-flinging howler monkeys who’ve been on a meth and Red Bull diet for six weeks.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:34:29pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

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He actually does look somewhat like William Stryker from the X-Men comicbooks.

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:36:12pm

re: #36 baski deploribus derpum

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Heh. My first hard drive was 10 mb Seagate full height drive. Ran Minix on it.

Later I remember scrounging a 20 mb Quantum SC SITE drive for my Amiga 500. Now that was a sweet computer.

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:37:36pm

re: #41 baski deploribus derpum

I had new tires put on at the auto center yesterday, and while I was waiting I walked over to a local 2nd hand instruments store. I’ve been wanting a 12 string for a while now and I found this 12 string that is an exact match for a guitar I’ve had for about 25 years, so I had to buy it ($150).

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Not a bad price for an Epiphone 12-string, if I’m reading that right.

Keep in mind you will spend 50% of your time tuning the damn thing and 50% playing out of tune. Kind of like a mandolin or charango. Sensitive beasts.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:42:02pm

Update on the Saturday attack on Muslim woman in Midtown Manhattan.
My reading has the count at five separate attacks/attempts committed over a relatively short period of time.
Muslim woman was the third event, and the only one wearing Muslim attire.

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:44:30pm

re: #49 austin_blue

This model, the PR-350 series has a little bit of cool trivia. (Not mentioned in video is it was one of first models produced in Gibson’s new Korean location).

Epiphone 1980s PR 350S Acoustic Guitar Made in Korea

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:51:46pm

re: #35 austin_blue

We have not. We’ve done a week on Skye (which for a geologist is just a wet dream). She Who Must Be Obeyed was taking a course there and I hitchhiked and bussed all over the island, banging on rocks, walking faults, and climbing intrusive plutons, which are not nearly as dirty as they sound. It was glorious.

Islay is small, reached by ferry, and can be completely covered in two or three days. Iain Banks wrote a travelogue published in 2003 where he was paid (!!) to visit every active distillery in Scotland (Raw Spirit). Check it out at the library and give it a read. It’s a lovely book by a wonderful author who was taken from us far too quickly by, of all things, cancer of the gall bladder (who knew?).

Yeah, but remember, I’m a fake geologist by way of chemistry.

I did promise the real-est geologist on my committee, after they granted that I had finished my defense, that I would never misrepresent myself so he could rest easy. Bless him, he was definitely the climb-all-over-rocks type.

I will definitely check out the book though.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 15, 2016 • 10:52:11pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Not a bad price for an Epiphone 12-string, if I’m reading that right.

Keep in mind you will spend 50% of your time tuning the damn thing and 50% playing out of tune. Kind of like a mandolin or charango. Sensitive beasts.

….so a better ratio than a harp, you’re saying?

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:11:18pm

It’s true. She’s drop dead gorgeous, whip smart, world traveler, I’m her age, and her dogged journalism in re: The Donald™ is impeccable. Rrraaawww!

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:12:13pm

Just another one of those times when you’re stunned by the tone-deaf stupidity of some people…

“…Here’s how the university says it’s spending Morin’s millions:

- $2.5 million toward an expanded career center for students and alumni;
- $1 million toward a video scoreboard for the new football stadium;
- $100,000 to Dimond Library, to provide “scholarships for work-study students, support staff members who continue their studies in library science and fund the renovation of one of the library’s multimedia rooms.”

…”

According to school officials, the only “dedicated gift” in the bequest was the $100,000 going to the library. (which means they are free to use the rest of the funds as their little shriveled hearts desire)
Background provided, the football stadium recently had a $25,000,000 renovation…

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:13:57pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

Just another one of those times when you’re stunned by the tone-deaf stupidity of some people…

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According to school officials, the only “dedicated gift” in the bequest was the $100,000 going to the library. (which means they are free to use the rest of the funds as their little shriveled hearts desire)
Background provided, the football stadium recently had a $25,000,000 renovation…

So long as sports remain a revenue stream for schools, they’ll keep bypassing spending on studies and putting it towards sports which fill the coffers but not student’s minds.

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gwangung  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:16:06pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

Just another one of those times when you’re stunned by the tone-deaf stupidity of some people…

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According to school officials, the only “dedicated gift” in the bequest was the $100,000 going to the library. (which means they are free to use the rest of the funds as their little shriveled hearts desire)
Background provided, the football stadium recently had a $25,000,000 renovation…

Do folks know that Mr. Morin was just fine with this division of his estate?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:18:18pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

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It’s true. She’s drop dead gorgeous, whip smart, world traveler, I’m her age, and her dogged journalism in re: The Donald™ is impeccable. Rrraaawww!

You want me to set you up??

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:18:47pm

re: #53 klys (maker of Silmarils)

….so a better ratio than a harp, you’re saying?

Actually, if the temperature in the room or the space is stable, the harp is pretty stable (She Who Must Be Obeyed played an outdoor gig last Friday at the Green Mesquite and only had to do some touch-ups between songs).

Next Friday she is playing with Oliver Rajamani’s Indian/Flamenco/Gypsy fusion band at the Carver Center (with dancers!). That space (about 250 tiered seats) sucks for temperature control, and there will be a fair amount of fiddling with the strings. Some go sharp, some go flat. A human being is basically a 100-watt light bulb and 25,000 watts of heat in a confined space is hard to overcome without a kick-ass air conditioning system. You would think that a temperature rise would affect all strings the same way, but gut, steel, and nylon react differently.

SWMBO prefers an outdoor venue, unless it rains, of course.

Oh, I’ll be stage managing the gig next Friday! I’m really good at that.

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:23:27pm

re: #58 Dave In Austin

You want me to set you up??

Does she know how to ski??

Shit, that doesn’t matter, I can teach her no problem.

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:24:09pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

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It’s true. She’s drop dead gorgeous, whip smart, world traveler, I’m her age, and her dogged journalism in re: The Donald™ is impeccable. Rrraaawww!

Well, dammit, Charlie hie thee hence to New York and grovel before the Goddess!

You’ve got a 50/50….

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:29:04pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

Just another one of those times when you’re stunned by the tone-deaf stupidity of some people…

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According to school officials, the only “dedicated gift” in the bequest was the $100,000 going to the library. (which means they are free to use the rest of the funds as their little shriveled hearts desire)
Background provided, the football stadium recently had a $25,000,000 renovation…

Note to self: If I become a rich guy, make my bequests very, very specific.

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austin_blue  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:29:06pm

re: #58 Dave In Austin

You want me to set you up??

Quit baiting our favorite ski bum!

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:30:11pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:38:40pm

re: #64 Ace-o-aces

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But yet she’s the one branded as “dishonest” because she won’t jump through the constantly moving hoops of the media.

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Anymouse  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:51:15pm

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2016 • 11:58:51pm

re: #66 Anymouse

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Anymouse  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:05:57am

re: #67 William Lewis

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:12:01am

re: #66 Anymouse

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:14:45am

re: #68 Anymouse

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:18:46am

re: #68 Anymouse

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:18:51am

re: #66 Anymouse

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:22:33am

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danhenry1  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:31:43am

re: #8 austin_blue

what we ARE doing…with proper funding, and education.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:42:29am

re: #68 Anymouse

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austin_blue  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:51:39am

Welp, my feline overlord just jumped on my lap and demanded scritches. It appears that my night on this board is done. Thanks, all, and remember that it ain’t over ‘til it’s over. Hillary is going to win. It’s just a matter of how big the margin is.

Everyone needs to take deep breaths. The American people cannot be that stupid,

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 12:57:33am

re: #76 austin_blue

Welp, my feline overlord just jumped on my lap and demanded scritches. It appears that my night on this board is done. Thanks, all, and remember that it ain’t over ‘til it’s over. Hillary is going to win. It’s just a matter of how big the margin is.

Everyone needs to take deep breaths. The American people cannot be that stupid,

I am guardedly optimistic that she will win, barring some major disaster or calamitous event.

The thing that scares me is that all it would take are any sort of otherwise minor and trivial revelations for the media to blow up into a major “disaster” for Hillary. Them medias just love them some dramatic game-changing turnarounds and they are willing to sink to whatever level necessary to turn one up.

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Alyosha  Sep 16, 2016 • 2:29:05am

Clinton takes a few days off and everyone loses it.
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Alyosha  Sep 16, 2016 • 2:34:16am
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Alyosha  Sep 16, 2016 • 2:52:22am

To play the polemic game once more; from the Völkischer Beobachter(/):

Late Thursday, in an effort at damage control, a Trump spokesman issued a statement saying that “Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States.”

But the statement, by Jason Miller, a senior communications adviser, goes on to falsely blame Hillary Clinton for starting rumors about Mr. Obama’s birth in the 2008 campaign, and it then called her “weak” for not getting the question answered.

SNIP

The Clinton campaign is unlikely to let Mr. Trump off the hook at a time when he clearly wants to change the subject.

Hillary Clinton was quick to respond in a blistering speech, asking an audience in Washington on Thursday night, “When will he stop this ugliness, this bigotry?”

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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 3:25:27am

re: #78 Alyosha

Clinton takes a few days off and everyone loses it.
/

Can we all just get along?

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2016 • 3:38:20am

re: #80 Alyosha

To play the polemic game once more; from the Völkischer Beobachter(/):

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Wait, the Gray Lady actually admitted that something Trump said was false?

Did I fall through a dimensional rip last night?

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Alyosha  Sep 16, 2016 • 3:47:04am

re: #82 Targetpractice

Wait, the Gray Lady actually admitted that something Trump said was false?

Did I fall through a dimensional rip last night?

Signs and wonders.

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Alyosha  Sep 16, 2016 • 3:57:18am

Meanwhile, area leftist sullenly polices Clinton’s tone.

How dare Republicans be told they’re better than Trump!
Wait, wut?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:10:11am

re: #41 baski deploribus derpum

I had new tires put on at the auto center yesterday, and while I was waiting I walked over to a local 2nd hand instruments store. I’ve been wanting a 12 string for a while now and I found this 12 string that is an exact match for a guitar I’ve had for about 25 years, so I had to buy it ($150).

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So you’re just waiting for genetic engineering and/or cybernetics to get up to snuff in order to get two extra arms and the brain add-on for enough additional manual dexterity in order to play two guitars at once?

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lockjawcanbefun  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:25:56am

And of course, the responses are full of idiocy.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:41:05am

re: #84 Alyosha

“Performative”? A word only a moonbat would use.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:41:32am

re: #86 lockjawcanbefun

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And of course, the responses are full of idiocy.

Coming up next—Jimmy Fallon does the Bedsheet Boogie with David Duke…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:42:49am

re: #54 teleskiguy

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It’s true. She’s drop dead gorgeous, whip smart, world traveler, I’m her age, and her dogged journalism in re: The Donald™ is impeccable. Rrraaawww!

When did you break up with Lindsay Vonn?

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Alyosha  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:47:37am

re: #87 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

“Performative”? A word only a moonbat would use.

If anyone embodies the spirit of performative utterances, it’s Adam Johnson.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:47:42am
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Jayleia  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:57:28am

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

Relationship Status: Its complicated. ;-)

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:57:49am

NY Times claims Trump gave up Birtherism. He did not.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 4:58:58am

re: #6 teleskiguy

We’re still learning stuff from the Voyager spacecraft too. While their main missions are long completed, they’re now in or heading towards intersellar space, so researchers are using the information they send back to learn about this region of space.

35 years on, and they’re still teaching us about the universe.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:05:36am

re: #56 Targetpractice

So long as sports remain a revenue stream for schools, they’ll keep bypassing spending on studies and putting it towards sports which fill the coffers but not student’s minds.

Assumes facts not in evidence. Sports are not a revenue stream. They are a drag on the central mission of the university. Unless you’re an elite team with regular appearances in championship tournaments, you’re losing money. Heck, even top tier teams don’t always break even.

Of course, athletics programs foster other, less-clearly defined but important benefits for their institutions. At liberal arts colleges like the one I attended, varsity sports drive enrollment. Should that count as profit? Any number of UGA students will tell you they came here because of the football team. What about goodwill generated among legislators and donors?

These are important considerations. Significant athletics investments may indeed be a good value proposition for building community, spirit, and support. However, no good measures exist for assessing these less-tangible achievements. Most studies find no link between winning teams and measures of institutional success like number and quality of applications, fundraising dollars, or state appropriations.

Justifying institutional spending on athletics is becoming a much more pressing issue for most programs, especially in Division I. Institutions with Football Bowl Subdivision programs have seen subsidies of athletics rise by 53 percent at the median from 2005-2009, according to the Knight Commission. Meanwhile, spending on education and related functions rose only 22 percent. There are similar gaps at other Division I institutions.

Here in NJ, Rutgers spends millions on their football program, and it’s lost millions as they build new stadium, infrastructure, and the team isn’t bringing in money b/c it hasn’t made it to championships where it can return funds to the school. It then moved into the Big 10, so there’s more money available to the team. The other sports pick up the scraps.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:05:58am
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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:07:07am

Trump is turning his birtherism into a media-infotainment spectacle….what he does best.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:08:14am

re: #97 Dr. Matt

Trump is turning his birtherism into a media-infotainment spectacle….what he does best.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:13:14am

re: #97 Dr. Matt

Free air time for Trump, works for him.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:17:35am

re: #99 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Free air time for Trump, works for him.

Yup. Morning Joke and his Blonde Puppet have spent the last 10 minutes rambling on it and of course, making it into Both Sides™

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:18:19am
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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:20:42am

re: #101 lawhawk

EVEN IF Clinton or her campaign first questioned Obama’s birthplace, Trump is the one that spent a better part of 2012 being the leading birther in the country. Moreover, EVEN IF Clinton or her campaign first questioned Obama’s birthplace, why would a republican (i.e., Trump) follow a Democrat’s lead? Obvious questions that the media can’t fathom.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:20:54am

New artwork in the Guggenheim museum

Starting Friday, an Italian artist with a sense of toilet humor will let visitors at the Guggenheim Museum relieve themselves in his new work — a solid 18-karat gold potty he has titled “America.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:25:39am

Remember we already went over this a year ago==>

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:40:28am

re: #97 Dr. Matt

Trump is turning his birtherism into a media-infotainment spectacle….what he does best.

Whatever else you can say about DT, he is a master at manipulating the media, at putting out strings of Tweets and sound bytes that a media-ADD public will snap up, devour and then forget as soon as the next outrageous thing comes out of his mouth.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:41:57am
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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:45:24am

And why is Trump back on the birther nonsense? Well, that kerfuffle diverts attention from a real scandal - and potential criminality: the donations to the Florida and Texas Attorney Generals who then dropped investigations into Trump’s scam school.

That’s real quid pro quo. That’s pay to play. That’s corruption.

For all the BS about the Clinton Foundation and no actual evidence of pay to play or wrongdoing, we have actual evidence that Trump paid off attorney generals in several states with “donations” to their campaigns that were followed by dropping investigations.

That’s even as NY was not only investigating Trump, but found that he broke NY law by claiming the use of the word “university” even though the entity was not legally able to use that term under state law. It was not an accredited institution, which is why Trump later changed the name. He had no choice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:45:32am

re: #106 lawhawk

I wonder where Donald Jr 1st heard the reference “warming up the gas chamber” bc I see it often in tweets to me from Trump supporters

We have never seen a presidential campaign use rhetoric like this so openly. And it is all being taken in stride as if were somehow normal and defensible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:49:32am

re: #101 lawhawk

But here’s the thing. Even if Democrats originated [birtherism], why did @realDonaldTrump become one of the biggest boosters to this nonsense?

Remember when Hillary sent that special task force to Hawaii to dig up the facts?

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Weaselone  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:51:43am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whatever else you can say about DT, he is a master at manipulating the media, at putting out strings of Tweets and sound bytes that a media-ADD public will snap up, devour and then forget as soon as the next outrageous thing comes out of his mouth.

I’m not certain how much actual mastery is involved here. Trump’s creating a circus people want to watch and the media plays along because it gets them eyeballs and add revenue. Hillary’s team has to figure out a way to turn this cycle back against him.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:52:55am

On a brighter note:

How a waterfall was shut down for environmental cleanup

I didn’t get to see this done in person, but the Great Falls were shut down so the Passaic River Sewerage Commission could do a river cleanup.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:54:29am

Ya think?

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:57:26am

So how crazy are the polls of this spastic multiple personality election?

I heard a poll that had Trump up by 1% point over Clinton…43 to 42.

Same poll had 61% saying they would not trust Trump to be president.

Yeah…that. Screw the polling.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:57:27am

re: #110 Weaselone

I’m not certain how much actual mastery is involved here. Trump’s creating a circus people want to watch and the media plays along because it gets them eyeballs and add revenue. Hillary’s team has to figure out a way to turn this cycle back against him.

It is one thing that he has learned to do well over the years.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:58:49am

Perhaps. No you bigoted asshat with modestly better hair than your dad. You’re just as bigoted as your darling father Donny. And you keep goading white supremacists and bigots with your purposeful choice of words. You know, you must really think your sister’s inlaws and your brother in law are idiots if they don’t see what you’re doing.

You’re not only insensitive to the fact that using Holocaust-related terms inappropriately is hurtful to Jews, but you’re spreading noxious white supremacist and neo Nazi propaganda at the same time (just like your dad did). You continue to do so, and there’s no evidence you’ll change tactics anytime soon.

The entire Trump campaign is one huge dog whistle to the bigot brigade, and you’re playing trumpet leading that charge, Junior.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 5:59:11am

re: #113 ObserverArt

So how crazy are the polls of this spastic multiple personality election?

I heard a poll that had Trump up by 1% point over Clinton…43 to 42.

Same poll had 61% saying they would not trust Trump to be president.

Yeah…that. Screw the polling.

I believe that a lot of people who are polling for Trump are going to have a long, hard think about it before casting their actual votes…

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:02:44am

This series of tweets from Al Giordano, highlighted at Balloon Juice, is exactly what people need to be thinking:

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:04:43am

re: #115 lawhawk

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Perhaps. No you bigoted asshat with modestly better hair than your dad. You’re just as bigoted as your darling father Donny. And you keep goading white supremacists and bigots with your purposeful choice of words. You know, you must really think your sister’s inlaws and your brother in law are idiots if they don’t see what you’re doing.

You’re not only insensitive to the fact that using Holocaust-related terms inappropriately is hurtful to Jews, but you’re spreading noxious white supremacist and neo Nazi propaganda at the same time (just like your dad did). You continue to do so, and there’s no evidence you’ll change tactics anytime soon.

The entire Trump campaign is one huge dog whistle to the bigot brigade, and you’re playing trumpet leading that charge, Junior.

I heard one of his early excuses for the gas chambers comment was he meant the death penalty. When was the last time a gas chamber was used in America as a death sentence punishment? And, how many people today even know that gas chambers were once an American thing?

The Trumps know all they need to do is throw out the raw meat, and then a day later pull it back with an excuse. Damage done.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:05:05am
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jeffreyw  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:05:37am

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Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:07:13am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Ya think?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:08:42am

re: #121 Sir John Barron

Media’s fault for pointing it out.
//

Really. Nobody would have noticed or cared if the (((media))) had not made such a big “stink” about the gas chambers.

/

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:09:20am

I see we need cat pictures already today.

You realize I have napping and eating to do rather than posing for pictures all day?
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:10:24am

China launched its second space station, TianGong 2. Liftoff was 10 pm China time Thursday.

bbc.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:12:34am

Is NY Times coming to its senses or is this just an outlier?

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:15:04am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

Is NY Times coming to its senses or is this just an outlier?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:16:13am

WHUT Now Reuters says Clinton Foundation uproar is a Big Nothingburger

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:18:45am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT Now Reuters says Clinton Foundation uproar is a Big Nothingburger

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Now the press can spend a week talking about how the evidence of a scandal only indicates minor issues, and completely ignore Trump’s foundation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:19:00am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary Clinton’s foundation scandal may be is and has always been no big deal

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:19:14am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT Now Reuters says Clinton Foundation uproar is a Big Nothingburger

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Set an egg-timer for the next yoge faux outrage.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:20:03am

After Trump dissed his entire press pool by stranding them, they should show some backbone, walk out and boycott him for a week.

I’m dreaming of course.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:21:54am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:24:31am

re: #132 Dr. Matt

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:24:40am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT Now Reuters says Clinton Foundation uproar is a Big Nothingburger

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OK, I just read through the article. It actually does nothing about clearing the Clintons by actually pointing out they’ve been pretty good about staying clean. It just points out that, because of the SCOTUS ruling on McDonnell in VA, it’ll be harder to go after any public official for corruption. They’re basically saying “It doesn’t matter what the facts are, there’s nothing that the Clintons could get in trouble for anyway. Oh, and this means we don’t have to look at Trump’s stuff either.” It also means they don’t have to take back their previous accusations about the Clinton Foundation.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:25:56am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Would you start to cross the street if you knew you have 3 chances in 4 of making it to the other side?

Was my chance of making it across before only 50%?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:27:55am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:28:25am

re: #135 Belafon

Was my chance of making it across before only 50%?

It’s not been that bad since early in the primaries. I’d be working to improve the odds considerably. Better figure that the traffic lights are out.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:29:03am

re: #117 Belafon

This series of tweets from Al Giordano, highlighted at Balloon Juice, is exactly what people need to be thinking:

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Speaking of, I tweeted with my local regional coordinator and asked if he needed someone for data entry. He said sure and told me to drop by the office.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:29:40am

re: #139 Timothy Watson

Speaking of, I tweeted with my local regional coordinator and asked if he needed someone for data entry. He said sure and told me to drop by the office.

Cool.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:31:20am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT Now Reuters says Clinton Foundation uproar is a Big Nothingburger

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may be no big deal”? Geez, these people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:36:12am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:36:53am

Do you think the press pool is pissed off enough to ask really “mean” and “unfair” questions to Trump and not back off?

In my dreams, right?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:40:49am
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jeffreyw  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:41:05am

re: #123 Feline Fearless Leader

I see we need cat pictures already today.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:42:07am

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:44:00am

Which one to watch? What a painful choice.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:44:23am

Of course everyone will tune in to the Birther shitshow.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:44:28am

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

Do you think the press pool is pissed off enough to ask really “mean” and “unfair” questions to Trump and not back off?

In my dreams, right?

It’s not reasonable to expect signs of dignity and self-respect from the press. These are people who spend their career-formative years sticking cameras and notebooks in the faces of the mothers of dead children, grasping for a “reaction”.

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:44:54am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

That fucker is a pure trifecta of anti-americanism…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:45:55am

Baby Whiplash & Nutbag Nolte double down on TEH STUPIDS

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(alpuz)  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:46:22am

re: #150 William Lewis

Was it the “#TEXAS no porn” that sealed the deal?

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:49:02am

re: #150 William Lewis

That fucker is a pure trifecta of anti-americanism…

But he is a Godly man…didn’t you see the cross?

He is saved damn it…saved!

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Skip Intro  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:50:16am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

Of course everyone will tune in to the Birther shitshow.

After eight years this is what the media considers “big news”. Too bad they won’t be allowed to ask the orange shitgibbon any questions, not that they actually would.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:50:49am

re: #153 ObserverArt

But he is a Godly man…didn’t you see the cross?

He is saved damn it…saved!

And he #standswithIsrael. Wants a bleacher seat on Har Meggido.

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:52:09am

re: #152 (alpuz)

Was it the “#TEXAS no porn” that sealed the deal?

For me it’s the “God-Family-Country” crap straight from that mother***ker Franco and his falangists.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:53:34am

This is a Friday. Is Donny going to do a big Friday news dump about his birther BS and hope the media skips past it and he won’t disappoint the haters he has been feeding for years?

And…is Sheriff Joe from Airyzoner gonna be there too?

I shall not watch…I’m going with the Little Green Footballs News Network for the coverage.

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jeffreyw  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:55:05am

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 6:55:47am
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:02:31am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

Of course everyone will tune in to the Birther shitshow.

And then people will wonder why Clinton doesn’t say anything about her agenda.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:06:24am

re: #159 lawhawk

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Why does anyone work as a spokesman or campaign head, etc.?

Just think…all of Kellyann’s words are meaningless. Not that they weren’t already but to have him come right out and say it is all about him has got to sting.

I don’t think I feel sorry for any of them. Look how fast Manafort disappeared.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:10:54am

re: #161 ObserverArt

Why does anyone work as a spokesman or campaign head, etc.?

Just think…all of Kellyann’s words are meaningless. Not that they weren’t already but to have him come right out and say it is all about him has got to sting.

I don’t think I feel sorry for any of them. Look how fast Manafort disappeared.

Speaking of which, have Lewandowski and Pierson resurfaced?

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Interesting Times  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:12:29am

re: #161 ObserverArt

Just think…all of Kellyann’s words are meaningless. Not that they weren’t already but to have him come right out and say it is all about him has got to sting.

I don’t think I feel sorry for any of them. Look how fast Manafort disappeared.

One thing that bugs the hell out of me is that, since bringing aboard the trifecta of Conway/Bannon/Ailes, trump’s fortunes have been rising and his media coverage more flattering. They’re obviously far better at manipulation and propaganda than Manafort.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:24:27am

re: #41 baski deploribus derpum

I had new tires put on at the auto center yesterday, and while I was waiting I walked over to a local 2nd hand instruments store. I’ve been wanting a 12 string for a while now and I found this 12 string that is an exact match for a guitar I’ve had for about 25 years, so I had to buy it ($150).

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If I don’t miss my guess, that’s what’s known as a Texan 12. A friend of mine found one at a garage sale and gave it to me, but mine’s in nowhere near as good shape as yours. Big sound, though.

I’m hoping to find a pawn shop or something similar while we’re here in Boston, see if I can grab something on the cheap if I can.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:25:52am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Would you start to cross the street if you know you have 3 chances in 4 of making it to the other side?

If my life depended on it, yes…but only then

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Jenner7  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:27:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:28:11am

re: #159 lawhawk

Don’t believe the biased and phony media quoting people who work for my campaign. The only quote that matters is a quote from me!

He has only the Best People, right?

Image President Trump: “Don’t trust anything that anyone in my administration or cabinet says!”

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:32:11am

re: #57 gwangung

Do folks know that Mr. Morin was just fine with this division of his estate?

mr barnes wouldnt have been with what they did to his foundation

wiki

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:32:34am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has only the Best People, right?

Image President Trump: “Don’t trust anything that anyone in my administration or cabinet says!”

Secretary of State: We’ve negotiated a history treaty with North Korea to end their nuclear program and open their borders.
President Trump: DON’T TRUST HIM! I didn’t negotiate any treaty. We’re bombing them next week for not unconditionally surrendering!

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jeffreyw  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:33:34am

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Mike Lamb  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:34:45am

So if Trump goes back on his birther stance, would his supporters dare throw Robert Byrd in our faces as a comparison?

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Jenner7  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:35:43am

He’s going to blame birtherism on Hillary.

What will media do?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:37:28am

re: #172 Jenner7

What will media do?

Rhetorical question, right?

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:37:46am

re: #172 Jenner7

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:41:03am

re: #172 Jenner7

He’s going to blame birtherism on Hillary.

What will media do?

Surly they won’t report that was over 8 years ago and that Hillary went on to be part of the Obama administration. And that Obama is currently out doing some campaigning for her. All of which signals Obama and Clinton are long past all the birther stuff that occurred between the two of them. Nope. Can’t mention that.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:41:10am

re: #172 Jenner7

He’s going to blame birtherism on Hillary.

What will media do?

so hes gonna claim he was gullible stupid enough to get sucked into it merely because she brought it up?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:41:53am

re: #128 Belafon

Now the press can spend a week talking about how the evidence of a scandal only indicates minor issues, and completely ignore Trump’s foundation.

“Lack of scandal raises questions….”

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:43:29am

re: #177 Barefoot Grin

“Lack of scandal raises questions….”

“lack of proof is proof of coverup…..”

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:44:04am

Think that’s missing a couple of tweets from last year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:45:16am

re: #175 ObserverArt

Surly they won’t report that was over 8 years ago and that Hillary went on to be part of the Obama administration. And that Obama is currently out doing some campaigning for her. All of which signals Obama and Clinton are long past all the birther stuff that occurred between the two of them. Nope. Can’t mention that.

Remember how Hillary started a “cold case posse” to follow up on it?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:46:55am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember how Hillary started a “cold case posse” to follow up on it?

Or that Donald Trump has been palling around with corrupt Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his “investigation” into Obama’s birth certificate?

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scottslemmons  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:47:14am

re: #172 Jenner7

He’s going to blame birtherism on Hillary.

What will media do?

“Trump stretched the truth, but this raises more questions about Clinton…”

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Jenner7  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:48:40am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:50:09am

re: #183 Jenner7

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:51:33am
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Alyosha  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:56:10am

Seen this posted here a while back but I think its time has come again.

Up to episode three of Better Call Saul’s second season.
Pretty good.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:56:56am

My oldest son just posted this on FB a little bit ago.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 7:59:18am

Jeez, Fallon must have really fucked up last night in his “interview” with trump. It’s all over Twitter.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:00:16am

re: #188 MsJ

Jeez, Fallon must have really fucked up last night in his “interview” with trump. It’s all over Twitter.

@JYSexton was pretty incensed about it; good series of tweets on it in his TL.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:00:23am
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:01:12am

re: #186 Alyosha

Seen this posted here a while back but I think its time has come again.

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Up to episode three of Better Call Saul’s second season.
Pretty good.

“eleven angry men”

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Jenner7  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:07:23am

or…

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:07:27am

Shoot me in the feckin’ head.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:07:33am

I didn’t see Fallon last night, but they showed the video of his hair mussing on The Today show. It proved to me that it is all just entertainment with NBC and the media. A joke. No problem.

I guess Trump is just another part of the NBC family of shows.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:08:28am

re: #194 ObserverArt

I didn’t see Fallon last night, but they showed the video of his hair mussing on The Today show. It proved to me that it is all just entertainment with NBC and the media. A joke. No problem.

I guess Trump is just another part of the NBC family of shows.

Remember that The Apprentice used to air on NBC.

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RinaX  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:08:46am

re: #188 MsJ

Jeez, Fallon must have really fucked up last night in his “interview” with trump. It’s all over Twitter.

At first, I was like “What do you expect, it’s Jimmy Fallon.” But then I read a summary of how the interview actually went, and yuck. I don’t exactly expect Jimmy Fallon to become hard-hitting reporter all of a sudden, but just reading it (“You’re amazing to follow” !!!!) turned my stomach.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:08:55am

re: #192 Jenner7

Yup. The hotel is having a hard time getting conferences because trump is so “polarizing”. Even at pre-opening hugely discounted rates, groups are saying Nope.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:08:56am

re: #193 MsJ

Shoot me in the feckin’ head.

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“If it weren’t for me, people would just accept that he was born in the US.”

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:09:57am

Trump finally shows up hour late to own presser, which begins as a commercial for his new DC hotel (which is still not 100% open; it’s a soft launch)

This is the big news? That Trump’s touting his hotel on national tv? FTS.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:11:03am

re: #199 lawhawk

Trump finally shows up hour late to own presser, which begins as a commercial for his new DC hotel (which is still not 100% open; it’s a soft launch)

This is the big news? That Trump’s touting his hotel on national tv? FTS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:11:40am

re: #182 scottslemmons

“Trump stretched the truth, but this raises more questions about Clinton…”

all about balance

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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:11:52am

re: #197 MsJ

Yup. The hotel is having a hard time getting conferences because trump is so “polarizing”. Even at pre-opening hugely discounted rates, groups are saying Nope.

And they never managed to replace one of the restaurants that dropped out.

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Jenner7  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:12:22am

If media had any balls, they’d cut away from this bull shit.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:13:55am
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ipsos  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:14:55am

Yet again, the media get conned by the Grifter-in-Chief into airing an hour of an empty podium and a half-hour ad for a hotel and anti-Obama bluster before whatever Trump is going to say that will pass for “news.”

I weep.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:15:26am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:15:36am

re: #204 lawhawk

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Well, it is quite an accomplishment that he actually fulfilled his contractual obligations.

There are hundreds of small businesses that wished he did the same with them.

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ipsos  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:16:41am

They’re going to introduce EVERY FUCKING PERSON ON THE FUCKING PODIUM. Aren’t they?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:16:41am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:17:04am

re: #175 ObserverArt

Surly they won’t report that was over 8 years ago and that Hillary went on to be part of the Obama administration. And that Obama is currently out doing some campaigning for her. All of which signals Obama and Clinton are long past all the birther stuff that occurred between the two of them. Nope. Can’t mention that.

“That just proves how much of a corrupt snake Obama is!”

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:17:59am

re: #207 Timothy Watson

Well, there’s no word on whether he paid his contractors. That’s separate from whether he honored terms of deal with the Federal Govt to convert the space into a hotel.

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EmmaAnne  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:19:54am

re: #5 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:21:52am
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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:24:17am
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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:26:52am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:28:25am

Jake Tapper just called this a “political Rick Roll”

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:28:27am

I just turned on NPR at the news, and they had a thing about the birther release from Trump’s campaign, and they said about the statement ‘Obama secretly not born in the USA’, “This is false.” Then they added the comment from the Trump campaign that Hillary Clinton started the birther nonsense. “This is false.”

That’s the first time I have heard that on the news on the top of the hour!

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:28:34am
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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:29:35am

Bait and switch. Scam. Free advertising for DC hotel.

Anything but actual campaign event. SS/DD.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:30:35am

re: #219 lawhawk

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Bait and switch. Scam. Free advertising for DC hotel.

Anything but actual campaign event. SS/DD.

But they will not call him out on it, because it would involve admitting that they fell for it.

which sums up the secret behind DT’s success with the GOP and the media

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:32:28am

SMOTI retweeted:

Except they didn’t actually address veterans issues - it was a long ad for his new hotel and ballroom. That’s a scam for anyone with a functioning neuron. But since SMOTI doesn’t know/care what a functioning neuron is, he’s pushing this nonsense.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:32:29am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But they will not call him out on it, because it would involve admitting that they fell for it.

which sums up the secret behind DT’s success with the GOP and the media

I wish there were some media outlet with enough courage and money to shut off the cameras and walk out as soon as Trump appears.

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:34:12am

re: #204 lawhawk

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I wonder how much the hotel is charging the campaign for having the event there.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:34:54am

re: #195 Timothy Watson

Remember that The Apprentice used to air on NBC.

That is why I said “family of shows.”

This all makes me sick. Our country is sick.

If the media doesn’t pound him for this backtracking bullshit we will know for sure they are in the tank for Trump.

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:35:23am

Happiness beyond the bridge

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:36:03am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:39:51am

re: #226 lawhawk

I guess the investigation team he sent to Hawai’i, after a lot of hard work, finally discovered that Hawai’i was a state back in 1961.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:42:27am

President Trump: Welcome to the new Trump House at the top of Trump Tower. All presidential business will occur here. Please try our Taco Bowl at Trump Restaurant, washing it down with our Trump Soda.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:45:05am

re: #228 Belafon

President Trump: Welcome to the new Trump House at the top of Trump Tower. All presidential business will occur here. Please try our Taco Bowl at Trump Restaurant, washing it down with our Trump Soda.

But we’ve abolished food safety regulations, so you have to trust me when I say that this is the safest/best food you’ll ever have. /

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:46:28am

re: #228 Belafon

We have leased the White House to the highest bidder, with the proviso that it be renamed The Trump White House and that 80% of all revenues come to the Trump Organization, or we will rendition the highest bidder to a place to be named later. Much later.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:46:38am

Someone needs to create a picture with Trump saying “I proved Obama is an American” with Obama holding his birth certificate saying something like “I’m pretty sure I did.”

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Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:52:07am

So Trump said that Harry Reid should get back to exercising? Insinuating his accident where he lost his eyesight in one eye?

Horrible.

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:54:49am
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 8:59:54am

re: #232 Stanley Sea

So Trump said that Harry Reid should get back to exercising? Insinuating his accident where he lost his eyesight in one eye?

Horrible.

“Are you accusing me of being overweight? Well, that guy over there is fat, too, and out of shape.”

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(alpuz)  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:00:46am

Welp, I just googled bukkaki(sp?) because i had no idea. I’m guessing my suggested ads will be a bit messed up for a bit.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:03:32am

Listening to a few minutes of MSNBC (reluctantly) and they said this was supposed to be a press conference too and it wasn’t…he took no questions.

What a fucking scam. And the media bent over and took it.

Oh…and the stage props just fell over as Katy Tur speaks. Fitting.

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:04:56am

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

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So, does the Trump campaign pay the Trump hotel some ridiculous amount of coin for facility rent or does the Trump hotel pay the Trump campaign for the publicity?

Either way, I’m sure Trump pockets some money.

America.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:05:05am
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:06:29am

re: #236 ObserverArt

Listening to a few minutes of MSNBC (reluctantly) and they said this was supposed to be a press conference too and it wasn’t…he took no questions.

What a fucking scam. And the media bent over and took it.

Oh…and the stage props just fell over as Katy Tur speaks. Fitting.

It would be nice if rather than thinking “Maybe this time he’ll be better” they’d start thinking “He’s not going to do anything reasonable, so let’s treat it as such.”

I refuse to compare this to an abusive relationship because, in this case, IT IS the media’s fault they let Trump treat them that way.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:07:55am

re: #235 (alpuz)

Welp, I just googled bukkaki(sp?) because i had no idea. I’m guessing my suggested ads will be a bit messed up for a bit.

From Urban Dictionary - a tag line: The example is to use your imagination in a bukkaki

Me: I imagine a bunch of men use their imaginations in making up that ridiculous definition.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:10:40am

What a surprise

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:11:55am

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

Trump introduced by a birther at event where he walked back birtherism

He was just stretching the truth back into shape…

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:12:55am

Gotta get back to work…but I can only imagine the comments that President Obama is going to come up with over this birther BS.

I hope he rips him unlike anyone has been ripped in public before. He needs to step on the Orange Oaf hard. And he doesn’t need a Washington Press Diner to do it. Gloves off. Take him down.

I have a feeling he is more than capable.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:14:08am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:15:15am

re: #235 (alpuz)

Welp, I just googled bukkaki(sp?) because i had no idea. I’m guessing my suggested ads will be a bit messed up for a bit.

You can confuse the algorithms if you google “tentacle porn.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:17:02am

Heh. Andrea Mitchell and Kristen Welker are talking about how Hillary is trying to get away from dumping on Trump and start talking about all her positives and future visions, etc.

Exactly what I was saying last evening. I think it is time to really contrast.

Orange Glop versus an actual caring Clinton human.

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:17:25am

re: #216 Stanley Sea

Jake Tapper just called this a “political Rick Roll”

And yet…(how much free air time did CNN give him? I couldn’t stand to watch)

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:18:45am

re: #246 ObserverArt

Heh. Andrea Mitchell and Kristen Welker are talking about how Hillary is trying to get away from dumping on Trump and start talking about all her positives and future visions, etc.

Exactly what I was saying last evening. I think it is time to really contrast.

Orange Glop versus an actual caring Clinton human.

Just think, it’s now true because a media person has said so, not because Clinton has been talking about her stuff for a while.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:18:57am

re: #247 BeachDem

And yet…(how much free air time did CNN give him? I couldn’t stand to watch)

I heard someone yesterday say that it can be proven that Trump has gotten north of $200,000,000.00 free TV time from our lovely media. Gah. What fools.

Later!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:22:57am

re: #249 ObserverArt

I heard someone yesterday say that it can be proven that Trump has gotten north of $200,000,000.00 free TV time from our lovely media. Gah. What fools.

Later!

A long time ago, somebody pointed out that if DT had simply taken his inheritance and invested it in a stock market fund, he would be worth a lot more than he is now. But then he would have had to finance his campaign on his own…

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:24:22am

re: #248 Belafon

Just think, it’s now true because a media person has said so, not because Clinton has been talking about her stuff for a while.

I think it’s a backhanded statement, myself.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:27:51am
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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:28:53am

HuffPo Main:
BIRTHER BULLS**T: FOLDS AFTER 5 RACIST YEARS

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:29:00am

re: #246 ObserverArt

Heh. Andrea Mitchell and Kristen Welker are talking about how Hillary is trying to get away from dumping on Trump and start talking about all her positives and future visions, etc.

Exactly what I was saying last evening. I think it is time to really contrast.

Orange Glop versus an actual caring Clinton human.

We hear next to nothing from HRC except when she is dumping on Trump. This from a media that would rather show an empty podium waiting for DT than Hillary giving a speech before a handicapped organization.

So naturally it is assumed that all she does between revitalizing herself by injecting stem cells taken from live kidnapped six-year-olds is to denounce Trump and his loyal, hard-working, god-fearing American followers as deploratable scum

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:30:30am

re: #252 Dave In Austin

It’s the second true thing he has said, after “I am Donald Trump.” Awaiting the third now.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:32:30am
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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:33:11am
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Jenner7  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:35:48am

This. A thousand time. Every Clinton surrogate needs to repeat this on TV and rallies.

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blueraven  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:36:23am

Well, the media got played. Again. Bigly.

The Vets got played. Again.

This is your America on Trump.

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Jenner7  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:36:27am

And she keeps going. More please.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:36:56am

This is why everything Trump related is vaporware. Nothing passes the smell test, including Trump’s vaunted tax plan. You’d think this would be the most developed part of his policy platform (especially since it’s cribbed from the House GOP framework re: rates after dropping his 3 bracket 25% top tax rate earlier this year). It isn’t. He’s clueless about the tax policy, and yet still claims he could be revenue neutral.

That strains credulity. It also is the most charitable way of saying that Trump has no actual tax plan.

You can’t even begin to score a plan like this without basics like knowing how passthroughs would be taxed and at what rates (passthroughs being partnerships, LPs, LLC, LLPs, etc.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:38:25am

Morning Lizards.

Hoping for a better day for all of us. Or at least some slightly better news.

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:41:22am

Some people say Keith Olbermann is long-winded. I think this was pretty succinct.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:41:23am

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:43:21am

re: #252 Dave In Austin

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:47:03am

Just caught the Fox News CHYRON
COSMO LOBS SOFTBALL QUESTIONS TO CHELSEA, TAKES OFF GLOVES FOR IVANKA

Gah and now they have Trump saying that Cosmo “viciously attacked” Ivanka by asking her questions.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:47:46am
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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:49:26am

Surprise, surprise:

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:50:57am

Just saw that only photographers/camerapersons were taken on tour of Trump hotel; journalists voted to not use any footage, some destroyed footage in protest of treatment at so-called “press conference” where no questions were taken.

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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:52:34am
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blueraven  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:53:12am

Weren’t some of those Vets at the Trump event also Swift-Boaters from 2004 ?

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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:53:12am
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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:53:39am
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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:55:23am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:55:57am

re: #276 lawhawk

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Andy’s so damn funny.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:55:58am

re: #275 gocart mozart

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:56:56am

So how much is the Trump campaign paying the Trump hotel for hosting this event?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:58:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:58:49am

re: #275 gocart mozart

I actually think this might have been the final straw for many in the media - they’re tired of being played for fools by Trump.

I hope they come to understand that they have nothing to gain by fawning over him or playing along and can guarantee just as much viewership by trashing him and pinning him on his lies and boasts.

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:59:21am

I feel that way about baskets lately, but the kitty looks innocent…

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 9:59:32am
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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:00:19am
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:00:46am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Asinine ought to really have two s’s, and not just because it would look more like how it sounds.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:00:47am

CNN seems pissed.

I’ve said this a few times before, but what if this is finally the turning point for media coverage of Trump?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:02:00am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:02:24am

Oh Smack!!

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:02:32am

re: #275 gocart mozart

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A few great Olbermann tweets on the subject:

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:03:00am

re: #286 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Let’s see if we start hearing about the stuff from the Newsweek article. If they start bringing that up, then we’ll know for sure.

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Jenner7  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:03:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:04:08am
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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:06:25am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

So how much is the Trump campaign paying the Trump hotel for hosting this event?

You mean Trump campaign contributors, since Trump isn’t self-financing his campaign. His donors just paid for this event, with free media exposure.

This is just another example of Trump getting others to pay for his business advertising, and for the self-dealing that comprises a vast portion of Trump enterprises.

But remember, he charges a charitable groups $200-350k to host a charitable events at Mar a Lago.

One of the charities most loyal to Trump’s club, the Palm Beach Police Foundation, which supports the local police department, has spent an average of $261,777 each year on its annual ball, held at Trump’s club every year since the charity was founded in 2006. Where the organization’s tax records show fees for the price of the facility, those range from $125,000 in 2007 to $235,362 in 2012 to $276,463 in 2013.
Asked whether he agrees with the Republican nominee’s suggestion that hosting charity events at Mar-a-Lago is part of how he gives back, John Scarpa, the foundation’s president, said in an interview with BuzzFeed News that the resort has granted his organizations what he estimates is a 10 to 12% discount on food. He says the club also provides some free amenities, such as heaters for the pre-dinner poolside cocktails (the Policeman’s Ball is in January). Trump, Scarpa said, donates a private helicopter trip to his Doral Golf Course to be sold at the event’s auction, an item that he called a “really good money-maker for us.”

During at least three years, the Palm Beach Police Foundation has lost money at Mar-a-Lago, losing more than $278,000 between its dinners in 2006, 2007, and 2010. Roger Craver, a charity expert who spoke with BuzzFeed News, said that losing money as a new charity was not uncommon. Scarpa, who said he considered the events a success, did not respond to a follow-up request for comment on the lost money.

Trump is frequently involved with events hosted at his club, donating his time and celebrity by acting as event chairman or serving as a charity’s sponsoring member (charity events must have a member sponsor them in order to be held at the private club).

He has also sometimes pledged money, like when he pledged $50,000 during a live auction at one 2012 American Heart Association event. Trump’s foundation tax record from that year shows a donation to the American Heart Association of $65,000.

Once again, Trump finds ways to profit on charity, and doesn’t personally give (that’s up to his stingy foundation to do).

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:06:50am
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Skip Intro  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:08:34am

re: #286 A wild WITHAK appeared!

CNN seems pissed.

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I’ve said this a few times before, but what if this is finally the turning point for media coverage of Trump?

It won’t last. Word will come down from the top to go back to sucking Trump’s dick because RATINGS!!!!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:08:51am

re: #286 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Too late.

I make longer, harsher statement after work, but American media has lost me. I listen to the BBC and France24.

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:10:19am

re: #286 A wild WITHAK appeared!

CNN seems pissed.

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I’ve said this a few times before, but what if this is finally the turning point for media coverage of Trump?

Watching CNN now. They are tearing Trump a new one. Weird that THIS is what has finally motivated the press.

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RinaX  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:10:45am

re: #286 A wild WITHAK appeared!

CNN seems pissed.

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I’ve said this a few times before, but what if this is finally the turning point for media coverage of Trump?

I just don’t think it is. They got their egos bruised today, but I have no faith that, come the night of the first debate, they won’t fall all over themselves to declare Trump the “winner” and celebrate his “surging” against Hillary.

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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:12:45am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:13:05am

re: #297 Ziggy_TARDIS

Too late.

I make longer, harsher statement after work, but American media has lost me. I listen to the BBC and France24.

Dude, it’s September.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:14:02am

re: #298 allegro

Watching CNN now. They are tearing Trump a new one. Weird that THIS is what has finally motivated the press.

It’s purely ego-driven. They’re finally realizing they are getting played by Trump, and it’s been happening for a long time.

How long this lasts, who knows. I am forever an optimist, because the alternative is too bleak.

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:15:27am

They’re pissed now, but their bottom line will rear its ugly head and they’ll come around to saying that Hillary’s “as bad” for calling Trump mean names over the lies he’s spewed today.

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blueraven  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:15:45am

Worth reading the entire rant.

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:16:17am

re: #291 The Vicious Babushka

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From that same interview—just about the only honest thing Trump has ever said:

And I’ll be honest with you, NBC wants to renew anything I want to do. They’ll do anything for me. Anything.</em>

blogs.abcnews.com

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:16:19am

re: #301 A wild WITHAK appeared!

For me to trust them again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:16:26am

Hillary has unleashed an astounding Tweet storm. Begin here==>

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:16:53am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

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Hillary seems unleashed today. Or at least her Twitter account handlers.

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Great White Snark  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:16:53am

This is my Irony Meter
I need a new one.

Here is why.

This week Volkswagen Truck & Bus announced a $256 million spend for 16.6 percent of the United States’ heavy-truck outfit Navistar, which make International Trucks and IC Bus. The plan is ostensibly for VW to help Navistar comply with diesel emissions regulations. No, really!

As we reported yesterday, Volkswagen T&B already owns parts of European big-truck companies Scania, MAN and of course Volkswagen Caminhões e Ônibus. But the incursion into Navistar will give them a position in the U.S. truck market.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:18:43am

re: #256 lawhawk

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Mike Lamb  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:19:43am

re: #298 allegro

Watching CNN now. They are tearing Trump a new one. Weird that THIS is what has finally motivated the press.

We’ll see how long it lasts, but I think for the short term, he finally told a lie that was just too big to swallow.

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:20:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:20:27am

re: #311 Mike Lamb

We’ll see how long it lasts, but I think for the short term, he finally told a lie that was just too big to swallow.

and did so in the midst of a self-produced TV commercial for his hotel…

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:20:49am

re: #311 Mike Lamb

We’ll see how long it lasts, but I think for the short term, he finally told a lie that was just too big to swallow.

I think it’s more that he stiffed the help press. He didn’t take any reporters with him through the hotel, just camera people.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:24:29am

That’s Trump friend and ally Alex Jones.

That’s before today’s hotel commercial, where he was introduced by another birther.

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:24:58am

FFS a Trump spox is now blaming the birther crap on the press. It’s their fault! All he wants to talk about is JOBS! Wolf ain’t having it. Am I witnessing journalism?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:25:02am

BOOM!
Deplorables lose their shit.

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:25:47am
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:26:56am

I’m curious how many birthers following Trump will say “OK, Obama was born in America”, how many will get angry at Trump, and how many will say that he just said it to get elected.

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RinaX  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:27:22am

It’s hilarious how, since Hilary referred to them as deplorables, the Republicans, from their fearless leader Trump on down, have done everything possible to reinforce her statement.

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bratwurst  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:27:43am

re: #298 allegro

Watching CNN now. They are tearing Trump a new one. Weird that THIS is what has finally motivated the press.

I know I should no longer trust my instinct that tells me “Trump has made a mistake!” when it has been wrong SO many times…BUT he really does seem to have enraged the media with today’s stunt.

BTW: thanks to those who weighed in on where my modest campaign contributions should go a few days ago. ALL of my political money for this cycle went to women: Hassan in New Hampshire, McGinty in Pennsylvania, Duckworth here in Illinois…in addition to Secretary Clinton.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:28:14am

So, this happened. After Trump gave his hotel a press plug (and lied about being a birther and that Hillary was originator), the stage collapsed.

Of course, SMOTI turns around and retweets this:

These right wing loons are dangerously out of control. And apparently off any meds.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:28:20am
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Mike Lamb  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:30:45am

re: #314 Belafon

I think it’s more that he stiffed the help press. He didn’t take any reporters with him through the hotel, just camera people.

I’m sure that’s part of it as well. It’s the combination of the two—“Oh, you’re going to treat us like we’re stupid AND not even let us ride at the back of the bus? This shall not stand!”

I mean, he’s been jerking the press around for more than a year now. He just didn’t do it in combination with something so patently ridiculous as “I rescued the nation from Birtherism!”

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:31:15am

re: #312 Kragar

“Just look how luxurious my new hotel is! BTW, Obama was born in the US. Now lets talk some more about how great my hotel is!”

This is a good prediction how Trump would conduct foreign policy in light of the Kurt Eichenwald reporting on TrumpCo foreign entanglements.

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Interesting Times  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:31:56am

re: #322 lawhawk

So, this happened. After Trump gave his hotel a press plug (and lied about being a birther and that Hillary was originator), the stage collapsed.

Please, please, PLEASE let this be a metaphor for what’s left of his campaign.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:35:42am

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:37:31am

re: #327 lawhawk

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

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So, electing a moron is OK.

Good to know.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:37:35am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:38:47am

re: #327 lawhawk

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

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Endorsing the guy who regularly attacks fire marshals (who are sworn law-enforcement officers in a lot of states).

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:40:13am

re: #327 lawhawk

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

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Well if Trump creates a police state their jobs are secure.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:40:20am

re: #327 lawhawk

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

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They’re tired of getting criticized for killing people.

I really wanted to snark that. I really did.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:40:25am

re: #327 lawhawk

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

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Given the crap that is posted on some of the police forums by alleged LEOs, I’m not sure why this would be surprising.

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:40:54am

re: #327 lawhawk

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

They’re showing themselves for who they are. Anyone who didn’t already know can see now, if they’re looking.

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ipsos  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:41:00am

re: #327 lawhawk

The exclamation points really make the endorsement. Classy. Yuuuge.

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:43:09am

Already had two Trumptards watch the clip who were convinced that it showed reporters tearing down the stage

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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:43:45am
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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:44:32am

Thanks for all the birtherism, Obama!

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:46:15am

“Donald Trump is a disgusting fraud!” - Rep. Butterfield, Chairman of Congressional Black Caucus

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gwangung  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:47:12am

re: #327 lawhawk

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

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Reform the police.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:48:14am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:49:18am

re: #338 jaunte

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Thanks for all the birtherism, Obama!

My memory is that Byron York is an obnoxious toolbag.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:49:19am

re: #338 jaunte

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Thanks for all the birtherism, Obama!

I see Byron York doesn’t get the concept of satire.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:50:20am

re: #339 allegro

“Donald Trump is a disgusting fraud!” - Rep. Butterfield, Chairman of Congressional Black Caucus

This is awesome

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:50:32am
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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:51:10am

re: #327 lawhawk

The National Fraternal Order of Police has now blocked me on Twitter.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:52:18am

re: #327 lawhawk

This is pretty fucking incredible. The National Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump.

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Makes sense; you can be sure that Trump’s Justice Department will launch no investigations of police for civil rights violations.

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plansbandc  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:53:03am

Not the least bit surprised the police endorsed the fascist.

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:53:03am

HuffPo not letting up with their headers.

New main:
TRUMP SPREADS NEW BIRTHER LIE
Subs:
WHOPPER: Says Clinton Started Birtherism In 2008… Clinton Slams Trump With Facts… Trump Never Stopped Stoking Birtherism

I’m not a big HuffPo fan, but they have been all over Trump’s bullshit like a cheap (Trump) suit.

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:54:37am

re: #346 jaunte

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:56:22am

“Trump is no more than a two-bit racial arsonist.” - Rep. Hakeem Jeffries

“We will not elect a cheap bigot as President of the United States.” - Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee

Trump’s spox earlier on Wolf kept saying how Trump was appealing to the AA community.

Yer doin it wrong.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2016 • 10:58:35am

re: #348 plansbandc

Not the least bit surprised the police endorsed the fascist.

Makes a compelling argument for most police to be disarmed most of the time. Along with the thousands of people they have killed, including at least two children playing with toys in a state where adults can supposedly openly carry real guns (as long as they are white).

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:01:56am
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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:03:41am

re: #320 RinaX

It’s hilarious how, since Hilary referred to them as deplorables, the Republicans, from their fearless leader Trump on down, have done everything possible to reinforce her statement.

T tweeted that. Awesome!

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:06:07am

[Can’t find this tweet right now.]

has debased himself…”

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:06:41am

“He has debased himself…”

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blueraven  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:07:38am

The Congressional Black Caucus is flaying the skin off Trump and stomping on his bones right now.

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:08:13am
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:08:30am

A group, American Bridge, got to tour Trump’s hotel, and found a whole lot of things that came from China.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:08:53am

re: #327 lawhawk

The @GLFOP has made an endorsement for President of the United States. pic.twitter.com
— National FOP

Delete your account

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:09:54am

re: #357 blueraven

The Congressional Black Caucus is flaying the skin off Trump and stomping on his bones right now.

It’s a beautiful thing. I can’t imagine why but I’m kinda amazed CNN hasn’t cut away even to run commercials.

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:10:15am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:10:21am

re: #361 allegro

It’s a beautiful thing. I can’t imagine why but I’m kinda amazed CNN hasn’t cut away even to run commercials.

CNN’s showing this? What’s gotten into them?

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:10:23am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:16:27am

re: #361 allegro

It’s a beautiful thing. I can’t imagine why but I’m kinda amazed CNN hasn’t cut away even to run commercials.

Has CNN had Lord or Lewandowski on yet to praise Trump for his statesmanship in putting an end to Hillary’s birther conspiracy theory?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:18:14am

re: #363 Sir John Barron

CNN’s showing this? What’s gotten into them?

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Thing of beauty

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:19:03am

re: #363 Sir John Barron

CNN’s showing this? What’s gotten into them?

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Inorite?!

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blueraven  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:19:36am

re: #361 allegro

It’s a beautiful thing. I can’t imagine why but I’m kinda amazed CNN hasn’t cut away even to run commercials.

Maybe, because CNN an all the media are finally as disgusted with this stunt as all decent people have been for a long time.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:19:51am

Let’s see if CNN and others keep it up through Monday.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:21:34am

I wonder what a George W. Bush endorsement of Hillary would do for her, for media treatment of the race?

I seriously wonder what he thinks of all of this.

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:22:25am

re: #365 Big Beautiful Door

Has CNN had Lord or Lewandowski on yet to praise Trump for his statesmanship in putting an end to Hillary’s birther conspiracy theory?

There was one guy (don’t remember his name, but a senior Trump guy) who kept trying to blame the media for the birther thing being an issue, then tried to blame Hillary, kept trying to divert the convo to Trump’s support for the AA community and how he just wants to talk about jobs. Wolf Blitzer (yeah really!) wouldn’t even let him finish a sentence, just kept pounding on the birther issue and Trump’s lies. AMAZEBALLS!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:22:46am

re: #368 blueraven

Maybe, because CNN an all the media are finally as disgusted with this stunt as all decent people have been for a long time.

See @gideonresnick ‘s pinned tweet

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:24:11am

re: #370 Sir John Barron

I wonder what a George W. Bush endorsement of Hillary would do for her, for media treatment of the race?

I seriously wonder what he thinks of all of this.

Or Romney. Either could back Johnson, but both have to know that to do so is to risk giving the election to Trumpoid. And that’s gotta give them pause, especially I would think, W, who has sat in the presidential chair and can’t be enthused at the prospect of Trumpshit in the oval office.

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blueraven  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:24:18am

re: #364 jaunte

What if I told you @BreitbartNews had a picture of a gorilla as the image on their birther presser?breitbart.com …]

OMG. They really do.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:24:41am

re: #374 blueraven

OMG. They really do.

Not surprised at all. Here’s my surprised face just so you can see.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:26:00am
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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:26:46am

For those who aren’t going to Breitbart to see this:

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:28:02am

Better headline than “Trump walks back birtherism”

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:28:32am

re: #333 Mike Lamb

Given the crap that is posted on some of the police forums by alleged LEOs, I’m not sure why this would be surprising.

Only surprise is this wasn’t done on day 1 of his candidacy. Trump lives anyone who puts them darkies in their place. He took out a full page ad against those kids from Central Park. And continued to rail against them after it was determined they were innocent.

Trump and his ilk are a cancer in our society.

Unfortunately, so are too many cops.

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:29:05am

Hmm—to paraphrase SMOTI—Does IT BEGIN??

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:31:44am

Reporter surprised that a cab driver has Trump figured out.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:32:14am

Kevin Drum at Mother Jones muses about how the press got played:

So far, the reaction of the press corps has been scathing. It was a bait-and-switch. They got played. When will we ever learn? They are pissed.

So is this a turning point? It’s one thing to acknowledge that Trump is a master of TV, but it’s another for him to be so blatant about manipulating the press. After all, there’s a point at which reporters stop being amused by the Trump campaign and start resenting it. Maybe we got there today.

And, to wit:

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blueraven  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:32:56am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:33:10am

So…I have friend who previously held a local elected office. He wrote and posted a very long article opposing Trump.

Let’s just say that the miscreants are upset at him insulting their God-Emperor.

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RinaX  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:34:16am

re: #354 MsJ

T tweeted that. Awesome!

Woo-hoo! Delurking pays off!

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:34:24am

re: #369 Belafon

Let’s see if CNN and others keep it up through Monday.

I, for one, ain’t holding my breath. Blue isn’t a good look on me (face).

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:35:14am

re: #370 Sir John Barron

I wonder what a George W. Bush endorsement of Hillary would do for her, for media treatment of the race?

I seriously wonder what he thinks of all of this.

I think Dubya thinks as little as possible.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:38:15am

Anyone remember when the GOP mocked Obama supporters by saying they were worshiping their “Messiah”?

The GOP really is the personification of projection.

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Teukka  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:38:52am

Bad pun o’ the day:

1: “OMG, the crew was in a serious crash on the I-xxx!” 2: “What shape are they in?” 1: “Wrecktangles.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:39:08am

re: #382 Eric The Fruit Bat

Kevin Drum at Mother Jones muses about how the press got played:

And, to wit:

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I’m not sure how anyone could’ve been surprised that Trump would act like this.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:40:49am

Mark Cuban is trolling Trump hard.

There’s $10 million offer on the table - a straight up payment, for a 4 hour interview of Trump by Cuban. No one else in the room. No mentions of Clinton or anyone else - just Trump and his policies.

There’s no way Trump takes that offer, even if it’s equivalent to getting paid $2.5 million an hour.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:41:51am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

Just caught the Fox News CHYRON
COSMO LOBS SOFTBALL QUESTIONS TO CHELSEA, TAKES OFF GLOVES FOR IVANKA

Gah and now they have Trump saying that Cosmo “viciously attacked” Ivanka by asking her questions.

All of them Katie!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:42:18am

re: #391 lawhawk

Mark Cuban is trolling Trump hard.

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There’s $10 million offer on the table - a straight up payment, for a 4 hour interview of Trump by Cuban. No one else in the room. No mentions of Clinton or anyone else - just Trump and his policies.

There’s no way Trump takes that offer, even if it’s equivalent to getting paid $2.5 million an hour.

Of course not; it doesn’t go right into Trump’s pocket. To get it, he would have to launder it through the Trump Foundation.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:42:34am

re: #391 lawhawk

Mark Cuban is trolling Trump hard.

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There’s $10 million offer on the table - a straight up payment, for a 4 hour interview of Trump by Cuban. No one else in the room. No mentions of Clinton or anyone else - just Trump and his policies.

There’s no way Trump takes that offer, even if it’s equivalent to getting paid $2.5 million an hour.

Cuban doing his country a service this election cycle.

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allegro  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:43:36am

If I wasn’t having such a great time seeing the press (CNN at least) actually calling out Trump’s lies and, shockingly, calling them LIES, I’d be annoyed that after years of this shit they are now saying the birther thing is nonsense, it was always ridiculous and a racist fringe belief, etc. Only now? Really?

But hey, we takes what we can gets.

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freetoken  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:43:40am

re: #394 Sir John Barron

Cuban doing his country a service this election cycle.

But this is the same Cuban who early on was encouraging Drumpfskind. Remember one of the early Drumpfskind rallies in Texas?

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Great White Snark  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:44:48am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:45:50am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:45:54am

re: #391 lawhawk

Mark Cuban is trolling Trump hard.

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There’s $10 million offer on the table - a straight up payment, for a 4 hour interview of Trump by Cuban. No one else in the room. No mentions of Clinton or anyone else - just Trump and his policies.

There’s no way Trump takes that offer, even if it’s equivalent to getting paid $2.5 million an hour.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:46:16am

“Who’s a good little cult of personality, then?”

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:47:48am

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

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Wow direct appeal to Trump’s greed. I could almost see Trump go for it.

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:47:56am

re: #395 allegro

If I wasn’t having such a great time seeing the press (CNN at least) actually calling out Trump’s lies and, shockingly, calling them LIES, I’d be annoyed that after years of this shit they are now saying the birther thing is nonsense, it was always ridiculous and a racist fringe belief, etc. O”nly now? Really?
But hey, we takes what we can gets.

Charles P. Pierce’s take:

“And here’s where the test comes in. The Trump campaign believes that the elite political media is as much of a dumb beast as the Trump campaign believes the voters are. There is no longer any reason to cover this campaign as anything but a truthless danger to the American republic.

It is a freak show, a carny act the pyrotechnics of which threaten to burn everything down around them. Are we all as dumb as they think we are? Are we a nation of easy marks? Those answers are still unclear.”
esquire.com

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Timothy Watson  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:48:36am

re: #400 jaunte

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“Who’s a good little cult of personality, then?”

LOL Someone’s business cards still have that awful logo.

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:50:43am
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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:51:02am

re: #388 Timothy Watson

Anyone remember when the GOP mocked Obama supporters by saying they were worshiping their “Messiah”?

The GOP really is the personification of projection.

In literal terms. They literally call him their GOD EMPEROR. I think it’s a Neo-nazi/alt-right thing. But it is definitely A Thing.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:55:27am

re: #391 lawhawk

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Stanley Sea  Sep 16, 2016 • 11:59:17am

I hope HW is at the Michelle Obama rally.

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Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom  Sep 17, 2016 • 11:06:52pm

Thank you Charles. That was truly glorious.


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