At Site Run by Trump’s Campaign CEO, Commenters Call for Mass Deportation and Murder

The site run by Trump’s campaign chief
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Trump campaign CEO/Breitbart “News” owner Stephen Bannon

At Breitbart “News,” the website run by Donald Trump’s campaign CEO Stephen Bannon, commenters instantly launched an orgy of hate speech and genocidal rhetoric targeting all Muslims following the arrest of Ahmad Khan Rahami.

Here’s a small selection of the huge number of hateful comments posted here. It’s hidden by default, because let’s face it — this is seriously nasty stuff.

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Just like ghetto thugs, who were “going to college” before they went bad and started killing, Muslims always change after a trip somewhere. IT’S NEVER JUST THE WAY THEY ARE, IT’S SOMEBODY OR SOMETHING ELSE’S FAULT. I say, “Bulldookie!” unless they admit it’s ISLAM’S FAULT.

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Sameo! Sameo! He was an example of peace and loving before he traveled over seas. He came back different. How many times have you heard this. Bullcrap they are violent animals to start with and must be stopped with any and all measures.

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Rahami was a good little moose limb terrorist. He didn’t let any feelings of gratitude for the U.S. taking him in, making him a citizen, and allowing him to be free and prosperous to dissuade him from attacking the “Great Satan.”

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Would you eat at a rag restaurant?

Thats about as bright as complaining about your meal then sending back to the same cook.

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If you’re under 50 years old and buying a pressure cooker, you should have a police tail put on you. If you’re a Muslim that should be an even bigger red flag. The criminal nature of this government irresponsibility is staggering.

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these rags are one group of one heII of an ugly species.

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Somebody has to clean out all the domestic trash

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Christians return from their Holy sites with love and forgiveness of mankind.

Muslims return from their Holy sites with detailed training on how to build IEDs

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I want to see true americans rise up exercise their 2 amendment right and purge this country all muslims.

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In World War II they just would have hung people like this and make it a public event and videotape it. With some free chicken.

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We should do the same: burned alive in melted bacon. I know, extreme, cruel, but after a couple of these, they will think twice.

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Islam is a cancer. It’s time to perform chemotherapy on it before it metastasises any further.

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Lets just send the guy to Gitmo, no trial, no additional press, just send them all to Gitmo, they are enemy combatants. period.

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See how easily they can fool people into thinking they are nice people. They are like ticking bombs just waiting to go off. You just don’t know when and where.

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But that’s just the point. “Moderate” muslims are just a few pages of the koran away from being a terrorist. They become “more religious” and they want to maim, rape and behead other human beings.

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obama administration is in on this criminal act

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No, he did not change after his Afghanistan trip. The idea that Muslim’s are somehow magically radicalized is a myth and a trick. Their leader Mohamed was a murderer, pedophile, liar, and follower of Satan. He was probably demon possessed.

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ALL Muslims are just a heart beat away from being “radicalized”. Their Koran provides the command for them to KILL all infidels.

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Every last Muslim needs to be sent back. I don’t care what their legal status is. If we want to save Western Civilization, there is no other option.

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This is why ALL Muslims should be deported, they are ALL ticking time bombs!

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‘Peaceful and friendly Muslims’ are always one step away from becoming killers.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:44:42am

No shock there, Breitbart is Stormfront basically and dipshit Bannon us a large part of why.

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Teukka  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:44:56am

My surprised face, let me show you it/////

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:45:12am

Reposting from downstairs:

They demonize and threaten and harass Muslims and then they get furious, absolutely furious when an angry Muslim commits an act against them.

It would be like me calling someone an ugly, worthless, small dicked asshole and then complaining about the slap to my face that follows.

Ahmed and his family left the country because they FEARED FOR THEIR LIVES.

I do not advocate violence but I also don’t blame American Muslims for being pissed off right now.

And if, god forbid, Trump does win it’s going to get a hundred times worse.

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:45:14am

My God, even “Fox News” is better than Breitbart by far.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:46:24am

re: #4 CriticalDragon1177

My God, even “Fox News” is better than Breitbart by far.

If Trump wins FOX will go full breitbart, guarantee it.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:46:41am
Christians return from their Holy sites with love and forgiveness of mankind.

Oh, so you should go see some Christian Holy sites then.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:48:04am

How soon before Trump suggests “some people say” Muslims should be rounded up like Imperial-Japanese-sympathizers during World War 2.

And even at the height of WW2 nobody ever suggested rounding up the German American Bund.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:48:34am
Somebody has to clean out all the domestic trash

Starting with alt-right/Trump supporters.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:49:17am

re: #6 Sir John Barron

Oh, so you should go see some Christian Holy sites then.

I went to the Vatican (as an atheist). Ran into a bunch of Southern Baptists on an organised tour there, talking about how much they hated Catholics (but they were still touring St. Peter’s).

My guess is they went back with the same love they went in with.

Meanwhile, loving Christian Scott Lively is still going to face genocide charges.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:49:18am

For my thoughts on Trump’s basket of deplorables, I cede the floor to the late Dennis Green:

Dennis Green “They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:49:52am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

How soon before Trump suggests “some people say” Muslims should be rounded up like Imperial-Japanese-sympathizers during World War 2.

And even at the height of WW2 nobody ever suggested rounding up the German American Bund.

My Germwn born great grandfather was part of the war rationing board. But he was white and not Muslim so he didn’t have his loyalty questioned.

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KingKenrod  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:50:52am

Hopefully Clinton will have time at the debates to run through all of Trump’s shitty/disastrous campaign hires. You can pretty much expect the same “quality” hires in a Trump admin.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:50:54am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

How soon before Trump suggests “some people say” Muslims should be rounded up like Imperial-Japanese-sympathizers during World War 2.

And even at the height of WW2 nobody ever suggested rounding up the German American Bund.

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They didn’t distinguish between sympathizers and nonsympathizers when they rounded up the Japanese.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:51:15am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Reposting from downstairs:

They demonize and threaten and harass Muslims and then they get furious, absolutely furious when an angry Muslim commits an act against them.

It would be like me calling someone an ugly, worthless, small dicked asshole and then complaining about the slap to my face that follows.

Ahmed and his family left the country because they FEARED FOR THEIR LIVES.

I do not advocate violence but I also don’t blame American Muslims for being pissed off right now.

And if, god forbid, Trump does win it’s going to get a hundred times worse.

Europeans have being learning that the hard way in recent years, with all the anti-immigrant sentiment leading to a generation of young men who feel no love for their adopted countries, a lot of anger over the hate directed at them, and the perception that they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by promoting an ideology that says people like them are the ones who their chosen deity smiles upon. Groups like ISIS find plenty of willing converts in such environments.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:51:49am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

How soon before Trump suggests “some people say” Muslims should be rounded up like Imperial-Japanese-sympathizers during World War 2.

And even at the height of WW2 nobody ever suggested rounding up the German American Bund.

Actually…

Shortly after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, some 1,260 German nationals were detained, as the government had been watching them. Of the 254 persons evicted from coastal areas, the majority were ethnic German. During WWII, German nationals and German Americans in the US were detained and/or evicted from coastal areas on an individual basis. Although the War Department (Department of Defense) considered mass expulsion of ethnic Germans and ethnic Italians from the East or West coast areas for reasons of military security, it did not follow through with this. The numbers of people involved would have been overwhelming to manage.

A total of 11,507 people of German ancestry were interned during the war. They comprised 36.1% of the total internments under the US Justice Department’s Enemy Alien Control Program. Of the 254 enemy aliens evicted from coastal areas (excluding Japanese Americans), the majority were German

(Yes, I know, it’s wikipedia, but when working quickly…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:53:19am
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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:54:04am

re: #15 KGxvi

Actually…

(Yes, I know, it’s wikipedia, but when working quickly…

Nothing wrong with Wikipedia. It is a second source, but sources all of its material. Generally anything there unsourced is challenged and either supported or deleted.

If one wants further information, one can follow up on the sources Wikipedia provides.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:54:26am

re: #15 KGxvi

I should add, it was obviously not nearly on the scale as that of Japanese and Japanese-Americans. But there were German and German-American citizens interned during WWII, there were also some interned during WWI.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:54:42am

re: #14 Targetpractice

Europeans have being learning that the hard way in recent years, with all the anti-immigrant sentiment leading to a generation of young men who feel no love for their adopted countries, a lot of anger over the hate directed at them, and the perception that they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by promoting an ideology that says people like them are the ones who their chosen deity smiles upon. Groups like ISIS find plenty of willing converts in such environments.

That’s why I have some pride in how many of our communities read more liberal ones assimilate immigrants. Those are the “New York values” Ted Cruz was shitting on to get atta boys from the religious right.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:55:05am

re: #18 KGxvi

I should add, it was obviously not nearly on the scale as that of Japanese and Japanese-Americans. But there were German and German-American citizens interned during WWII, there were also some interned during WWI.

You are correct.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:55:30am

This is a meme now

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:55:47am

re: #16 Stanley Sea

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Still doesn’t know that the Internet is forever.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:57:17am

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

Vicente Fox has found a second career.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 11:58:00am

re: #13 Timothy Watson

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They didn’t distinguish between sympathizers and nonsympathizers when they rounded up the Japanese.

That is true. But they didn’t even round up the Nazi-SYMPATHIZERS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:00:08pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

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The notoriously tweet-happy GOP nominee’s reasons for deleting the tweet after posting it Sunday night were unclear.

I read something not too long ago this afternoon that the suspect came here when he was two years old and Bush was president at the time.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:01:25pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

Trump deletes tweet knocking Obama, Clinton’s “failed” policies after weekend attacks talkingpointsmemo.com pic.twitter.com
— Talking Points Memo

One of his handlers took back Trump’s Twitter-phone?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:01:57pm

re: #18 KGxvi

I should add, it was obviously not nearly on the scale as that of Japanese and Japanese-Americans. But there were German and German-American citizens interned during WWII, there were also some interned during WWI.

German refugees were also rounded up and interned in the UK. MANY OF THEM WERE GERMAN JEWS.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:02:47pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

German refugees were also rounded up and interned in the UK. MANY OF THEM WERE GERMAN JEWS.

Was their last name Shapiro?

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Edit: Bad grammar.

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gwangung  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:02:48pm

re: #18 KGxvi

I should add, it was obviously not nearly on the scale as that of Japanese and Japanese-Americans. But there were German and German-American citizens interned during WWII, there were also some interned during WWI.

50% of Trump voters in Iowa thought Japanese American internment was justified.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:03:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:03:46pm

re: #29 gwangung

50% of Trump voters in Iowa thought Japanese American internment was justified.

I’ll be honest. I’m surprised it’s not higher.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:05:25pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

from the link:

I read something not too long ago this afternoon that the suspect came here when he was two years old and Bush was president at the time.

If true, then you can be sure that the Trump campaign is shitting bricks right now. How to exploit this without basically reminding folks of the last fuck-up in office?

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:05:46pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

from the link:

I read something not too long ago this afternoon that the suspect came here when he was two years old and Bush was president at the time.

According to the NYT:

Mr. Rahami was born on Jan. 23, 1988, in Afghanistan. He was described as a naturalized citizen who had been living with his family in Elizabeth, not far from where he was arrested. Associates said that several years ago Mr. Rahami traveled to his homeland and when he returned, he showed signs of radicalization. The significance of the visit was not immediately clear. It was not known whether he had any links to an overseas terror organization, or whether he had been inspired by such organizations and their propaganda efforts, as others have been.

I’ve yet to see anything on when he was naturalized or when he came to the US. We’ve seen a lot of these cases of “he went there and became radicalized” and it makes me wonder what happens on those trips.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:05:56pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

German refugees were also rounded up and interned in the UK. MANY OF THEM WERE GERMAN JEWS.

Yet another reason not to love the Churchill mythology.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:07:12pm

re: #32 Targetpractice

If true, then you can be sure that the Trump campaign is shitting bricks right now. How to exploit this without basically reminding folks of the last fuck-up in office?

The Bush would be HW Bush not W.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:09:13pm

New York Congressman Lee Zeldin (R) beclowns himself on Twitter; gets pilloried there with responses to this tweet:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:10:34pm

re: #36 Anymouse

New York Congressman Lee Zeldin (R) beclowns himself on Twitter; gets pilloried there with responses to this tweet:

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Because getting suspects in custody is so awful especially in a bombing plot. Go home, Lee, you’re drunk.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:11:30pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

The Bush would be HW Bush not W.

True, but to most of the people he’s going to have to convince to vote for him, “Bush” is that guy who crashed the economy and got us into a foreign quagmire.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:11:53pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

True, but to most of the people he’s going to have to convince to vote for him, “Bush” is that guy who crashed the economy and got us into a foreign quagmire.

True.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:14:22pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Because getting suspects in custody is so awful especially in a bombing plot. Go home, Lee, you’re drunk.

And constitutionally protected protest against police brutality is precisely the same as planting bombs. Don’t conservatives think? (Don’t answer that.)

This response was cute.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:14:29pm

re: #36 Anymouse

Suspect in custody. You are welcome Colin Kaepernick.
— Lee Zeldin

Delete your account

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:15:45pm

re: #33 KGxvi

Whenever I hear someone using the word “radicalize” I start grinding my teeth a bit…

Regardless of cult, belief, religion, movement, whatever… it is young people who are most caught up.

This is known, and one doesn’t have to be particularly bright to notice it.

People can be convinced to do terrible things. Younger people more than older people. Not that older people can’t be convinced to do terrible things, but if one looks across the landscape of violence the phenomenon is that younger people can be more coerced.

I’m not claiming older people are inherently wiser - wish that were the case. It’s just that we become less pliable as we age. If one hasn’t been convinced by age 50 to go out and do some horrible act of violence, it’s going to be hard to convince them at age 52 that person will suddenly go out and cause mass destruction. That’s why training camps of terrorist organizations recruit the youngest people possible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:15:49pm
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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:17:41pm

Wow, this guy is a real winner. Fortunately, I don’t have to invoke an automatic blocking function because I am not on Twitter.

twitter.com

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Timothy Watson  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:18:23pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

National Cathedral (Washington, D.C.)

“The Force is strong with this one.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:18:30pm

re: #40 Anymouse

And constitutionally protected protest against police brutality is precisely the same as planting bombs. Don’t conservatives think? (Don’t answer that.)

This response was cute.

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Good points.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:19:03pm

re: #45 Timothy Watson

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“The Force is strong with this one.”

Well he is LORD Vader right?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:19:52pm

re: #24 The Vicious Babushka

That is true. But they didn’t even round up the Nazi-SYMPATHIZERS.

Busy making cars in Dearborn.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:20:06pm

Biological impossibility aside, if Donald Trump and Ralph Nader were to mate, the result would be something strikingly similar to Jill Stein.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:20:31pm

I had the same hairstyle for decades. That would disqualify me from one of these:

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:21:23pm
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piratedan  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:21:39pm

you see, it’s all part of the vast leftist conspiracy to confiscate your guns because of escalating police brutality of minorities which weakens us because of the protests against fracking that allows ISIS to introduce Sharia Law… it’s all there right in front of you, but you refuse to see it….and needless to say, Trump is the ONLY one who can fix it and restore our freedoms… /////////////

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:22:54pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Heh not quite as funny as Trump Jr tweeting an image of a Mavericks game and Mark Cuban schooling him.

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gwangung  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:23:38pm

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Knew right off. Had people of color in them.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:24:04pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:24:50pm

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:26:39pm

re: #49 Dr. Matt

Biological impossibility aside, if Donald Trump and Ralph Nader were to mate, the result would be something strikingly similar to Jill Stein.

Ah… not anymore. We could take the DNA from one of Drumpfskind’s gametes and combine it with similar from one of Nader’s, and put into an ovum from which its own nuclear DNA was removed…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:28:29pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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They are deplorable, I’m glad they realize it. Can’t wait for them to be even more miserable than they already are when Trump implodes.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:28:31pm

re: #58 freetoken

Ah… not anymore. We could take the DNA from one of Drumpfskind’s gametes and combine it with similar from one of Nader’s, and put into an ovum from which its own nuclear DNA was removed…

And thus, the Antichrist was born.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:29:55pm

re: #58 freetoken

Ah… not anymore. We could take the DNA from one of Drumpfskind’s gametes and combine it with similar from one of Nader’s, and put into an ovum from which its own nuclear DNA was removed…

I did say “…if Donald Trump and Ralph Nader were to mate… “

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:32:52pm

re: #57 Dr. Matt

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Ugh.

I like the photo of the lemming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:34:22pm

heh

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Dragonomics  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:36:19pm

The call for police to tail anyone under fifty who buys a pressure cooker would entail what? Monitoring online activity, phone calls, permanent police presence in Walmart, Target, Sears and maybe just dropping a tactical nuke on PRESTO?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:39:11pm
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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:45:30pm

re: #64 ramex

The call for police to tail anyone under fifty who buys a pressure cooker would entail what? Monitoring online activity, phone calls, permanent police presence in Walmart, Target, Sears and maybe just dropping a tactical nuke on PRESTO?

I bought a pressure cooker (well a pressure canner) in my mid thirties.

I used it for canning. I still do.

What next, outlaw pressure cookers and canners? Haul in Hamilton Beach and Oster for questioning?

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:46:40pm

Ted Nugent Disgusted by Wimpy Stabbing Victims (goes to Wonkette)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:47:25pm

re: #67 Anymouse

Ted Nugent Disgusted by Wimpy Stabbing Victims (goes to Wonkette)

I wish someone would smack that sorry pos.

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nines09  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:47:50pm

Completely OT and do I ever need to stay away from the shit storm. Check this out.Prisma

You can get effects like this..

That’s my mutt Cookie. Waiting for me to throw his ball.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:49:34pm

re: #52 piratedan

you see, it’s all part of the vast leftist conspiracy to confiscate your guns because of escalating police brutality of minorities which weakens us because of the protests against fracking that allows ISIS to introduce Sharia Law… it’s all there right in front of you, but you refuse to see it….and needless to say, Trump is the ONLY one who can fix it and restore our freedoms… /////////////

Clinton needs a bumper sticker: Liberals don’t want your guns, we have our own, thanks.

(The Liberal Gun Club has such a sticker, for a while I had one on my car - really confused people in my county who know me. I would get frequent questions like “liberals really own guns?” while asking a known liberal gun owner that question.)

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:51:47pm
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At the link, there is a fabulous zoomy-map-thing to look at some of the difficulties of creating a barrier at the border.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:51:53pm

re: #69 nines09

Kewl photo of your dog.

Too bad Prisma doesn’t have a version of their program for a computer. Oh well, I guess I’ll have to pass.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:52:06pm

re: #70 Anymouse

Clinton needs a bumper sticker: Liberals don’t want your guns, we have our own, thanks.

(The Liberal Gun Club has such a sticker, for a while I had one on my car - really confused people in my county who know me. I would get frequent questions like “liberals really own guns?” while asking a known liberal gun owner that question.)

They always act shocked when they encounter liberal vets too even though a lot of their heroes like Trump, Limbaugh, and others never saw a day of basic let alone combat.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:53:18pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

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At the link, there is a fabulous zoomy-map-thing to look at some of the difficulties of creating a barrier at the border.

I am sure that Trump would respect an international tribunal’s decision on the matter.

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nines09  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:53:21pm

Mantis after summer shower on black eyed susan

Via Prisma. Tre chill. Have a great day.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:53:25pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

They always act shocked when they encounter liberal vets too even though a lot of their heroes like Trump, Limbaugh, and others never saw a day of basic let alone combat.

Well, the people here aren’t shocked I am a vet. (Perhaps when my wife and I rolled into town the first time to look at the house we wound up buying with a “Fly Navy” sticker and a “I heart Obamacare” sticker on it.)

Next step: Put a Clinton yard sign up (no one in town has yard signs; the only other person who had one, for Trump, took it down when he went after Megyn Kelly).

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:55:48pm
In World War II they just would have hung people like this and make it a public event and videotape it. With some free chicken.

Only in Nazi Germany, but without the chicken.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:58:06pm

re: #74 Timothy Watson

(Really, do I need to put a bunch of “/”?)

Will they help hold up a wall?

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Tigger2  Sep 19, 2016 • 12:59:17pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:00:07pm

Not at all deplorable…

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Timothy Watson  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:00:58pm

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I would love to see the same data for Mormon voters.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:01:02pm

re: #74 Timothy Watson

I am sure that Trump would respect an international tribunal’s decision on the matter.

(Really, do I need to put a bunch of “/”?)

re: #78 wrenchwench

Will they help hold up a wall?

They would buttress a very, very tiny one. Buttresses suited to be put up with very tiny hands.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:03:03pm

The ice… it’s melting:

Herbert Glacier Retreat, Alaska 1984-2016

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:03:48pm

re: #79 Tigger2

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It’s almost like Jewish American voters don’t fit the right wing fantasy of what they want Jewish voters to be.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:04:36pm
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Why, it’s almost as if economic uncertainty and crime have little or nothing to do with Trump’s popularity!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:04:42pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:05:10pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

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Why, it’s almost as if economic uncertainty and crime have little or nothing to do with Trump’s popularity!

Everything is awful, only Trump will fix.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:05:46pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

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Yeah but Black president for eight years, so….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:06:31pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

It’s almost like Jewish American voters don’t fit the right wing fantasy of what they want Jewish voters to be.

They think American Jews are ‘All Israel, All The Time’ and that they all buy into the RW bullshit that Obama’s been totally anti-Israel.

Once again, they really don’t understand Identity Politics.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:09:36pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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that is a Bushtec trailer.
I’ve been pulling one (sans dog) since 1992

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:10:16pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

They think American Jews are ‘All Israel, All The Time’ and that they all buy into the RW bullshit that Obama’s been totally anti-Israel.

Once again, they really don’t understand Identity Politics.

That, and I presume many Jewish voters understand the RNWJ fantasy of all the Jews going to Israel is the prelude for Christianity’s Armageddon. I’m guessing a large percentage of Jews do not want that.

As for their idea of identity politics, more projection.

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:10:27pm
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This is more than enough for the Trump supporters to say that he’s got a policy. A closer inspection finds it wanting for actual substance. Extreme vetting isn’t a thing, but apparently Newt and the other nitwits think that we need to vet immigrants more, even though once again the terrorist involved was a US citizen.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:11:30pm

mine

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:12:05pm

re: #92 lawhawk

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This is more than enough for the Trump supporters to say that he’s got a policy. A closer inspection finds it wanting for actual substance. Extreme vetting isn’t a thing, but apparently Newt and the other nitwits think that we need to vet immigrants more, even though once again the terrorist involved was a US citizen.

Extreme Vetting? Oh, then maybe we could see your tax returns.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:12:25pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

They think American Jews are ‘All Israel, All The Time’ and that they all buy into the RW bullshit that Obama’s been totally anti-Israel.

Once again, they really don’t understand Identity Politics.

Precisely. They just don’t realize or even want to attempt to understand why their ideology isn’t appealing to a large majority of American Jews or conversely why Democrats and liberalism DO.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:13:59pm

re: #92 lawhawk

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This is more than enough for the Trump supporters to say that he’s got a policy. A closer inspection finds it wanting for actual substance. Extreme vetting isn’t a thing, but apparently Newt and the other nitwits think that we need to vet immigrants more, even though once again the terrorist involved was a US citizen.

i realize this individual was an immigrant when he was 2 years old however many years back

and he may have gone abroad and come back as citizens are allowed to do

and refugees are not immigrants and are not treated the same way

and just for fun, how are you going to “vet” an overstayed visa?

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:14:05pm

Time to bring this in again:

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petesh  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:14:33pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

That’s a good ad. I’d like to force-feed it to anyone who thinks she hypocritically changed her mind because of Bernie’s campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:14:54pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:15:30pm
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A crew of marine life scientists gathered all the equipment they needed to conduct a whale version of an autopsy on a 38-foot-long humpback on a Oregon beach Monday — but arrived to find it had disappeared.

“Last night’s high tide must have pulled the big girl back out to sea,” Tiffany Booth, part of the necropsy team from the Seaside Aquarium, said Monday. “The only thing we found was a kidney.”

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Had been dead a while, was basically barnacle habitat.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:16:41pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:16:48pm

re: #98 petesh

That’s a good ad. I’d like to force-feed it to anyone who thinks she hypocritically changed her mind because of Bernie’s campaign.

Exactly. Changed hair does not equal changed mind. Consistent inside, where it counts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:17:05pm
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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:17:13pm

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Had been dead a while, was basically barnacle habitat.

Day Old Whale

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:17:26pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whaddya mean Trump hasn’t done one? He phones in to Faux all the time.
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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:17:32pm

How much more obvious can Assange’s real affiliation and agenda get?
BOOM! Wikileaks Confirms Hillary Sold Weapons To ISIS

Needless to say, the actual documents say no such thing. Redstate and the rest of the Trump-Putin-Assange media axis are betting, probably correctly, that their audience will not bother to read them.

Will RWNJs call for a Russian peace-keeping force when American soldiers tell President Trump to fuck off, then resign or desert en masse? I am halfway tempted to think that shitholes like Bastrop County (where Jade Helm drunkard-protesters called US Army officer “the Gestapo”) deserve it.

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Teukka  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:18:58pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel

How much more obvious can Assange’s real affiliation and agenda get?
BOOM! Wikileaks Confirms Hillary Sold Weapons To ISIS

Will RWNJs call for a Russian peace-keeping force when American soldiers tell President Trump to fuck off, then resign or desert en masse? I am halfway tempted to think that shitholes like Bastrop County (where Jade Helm drunkard-protesters called US Army officer “the Gestapo”) deserve it.

Jésùs Hello Kitty Christ on rocket-powered Toboggan, are they frikkin’ serious!?

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:19:39pm

Picture of the day:

Image: steenstrup.jpeg

From IceBridge.

It’s Steenstrup glacier looking east in the morning.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:20:11pm

Comment on the Nugent article over at Wonkette:

Gayer Than Thou

When only outlaws have pressure cookers, only outlaws will have easy, no-fuss pulled pork in under an hour and a half.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:20:16pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel

How much more obvious can Assange’s real affiliation and agenda get?
BOOM! Wikileaks Confirms Hillary Sold Weapons To ISIS

Will RWNJs call for a Russian peace-keeping force when American soldiers tell President Trump to fuck off, then resign or desert en masse? I am halfway tempted to think that shitholes like Bastrop County (where Jade Helm drunkard-protesters called US Army officer “the Gestapo”) deserve it.

WOW!!! Confirmed. FACT.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:20:59pm

re: #104 Anymouse

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:21:03pm

Strange weather here today… it was warm last night and today is cloudy… just had a wind gust from the SW that was warm… maybe some sort of hurricane remnant.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:21:06pm

re: #105 Sir John Barron

Whaddya mean Trump hasn’t done one? He phones in to Faux all the time.
//

if thats the case then hillary talks to the press almost every day

// right back at em

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Archangelus  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:22:16pm

Small question folks, how reliable are Princeton’s electoral vote histograms?

election.princeton.edu

Seen this referenced before, and wanna be hopeful…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:23:21pm

re: #114 Archangelus

Small question folks, how reliable are Princeton’s electoral vote histograms?

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Seen this referenced before, and wanna be hopeful…

IIRC, Sam Wang has an even better track record than Silver.

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Tigger2  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:23:26pm
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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:24:42pm

Hurricane Paine sending up some tropical moisture:

nhc.noaa.gov

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Jenner7  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:25:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:26:23pm

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:27:12pm

re: #118 Jenner7

So they can blame it on Bill then.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:27:26pm

re: #114 Archangelus

Small question folks, how reliable are Princeton’s electoral vote histograms?

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Seen this referenced before, and wanna be hopeful…

Well, here’s the thing - we only have Presidential elections every 4 years, so the N is very small to try and determine accuracy.

Sam Wang and Nate Silver try to do the same thing, each with their own particular take on probability and percent uncertainty, and come up with similar expected outcomes with very different percent probabilities. In 2012, they both pretty much hit the nail on the head. But with an N of 1 every 4 years, it is not really possible to know whose probabilities are more accurate.

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Jenner7  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:27:50pm
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FUCKING MORON

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:28:32pm

re: #120 Anymouse

So they can blame it on Bill then.

He shoulda looked that 7-year-old future terrorist in they eye, and KNOWN he was gonna turn bad.
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:29:40pm

re: #123 Blind Frog Belly White

He shoulda looked that 7-year-old future terrorist in they eye, and KNOWN he was gonna turn bad.
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Should have sent him back to Afghanistan without cookies.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:32:49pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel

How much more obvious can Assange’s real affiliation and agenda get?
BOOM! Wikileaks Confirms Hillary Sold Weapons To ISIS

Will RWNJs call for a Russian peace-keeping force when American soldiers tell President Trump to fuck off, then resign or desert en masse? I am halfway tempted to think that shitholes like Bastrop County (where Jade Helm drunkard-protesters called US Army officer “the Gestapo”) deserve it.

She actually sold them to Isis. When a goddess asks, you don’t question her.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:34:26pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:35:06pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:35:56pm

re: #93 dangerman

Cool!
Be a bit cooler if it had a goggled dog…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:36:11pm
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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:36:12pm

re: #117 freetoken

Hurricane Paine sending up some tropical moisture:

nhc.noaa.gov

I got nothing here.

forecast.weather.gov

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:37:57pm

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And the media will give him a pass on it. Really fuck him. He was fucking his trophy wife while Clinton consoled people who lost their loved ones in 9-11.

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Interesting Times  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:39:12pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:39:32pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:39:33pm

re: #130 Anymouse

It’s a long way from Baja to the NE panhandle…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:40:09pm

jeebus

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:40:48pm

Minnesota police chief swats down Steve Doocy on FOX. Mr. Doocy was looking for confirmation from the police chief on the evils of immigrants in regard to the stabbing there.

Video

STEVE DOOCY (CO-HOST): So, Chief, as you listen to Donald Trump talking about — of course, he would like extreme vetting going forward. I know there are close to 6,000 Somalis who live in the St. Cloud area. Do you share his concern about who is coming into the country?

POLICE CHIEF WILLIAM BLAIR ANDERSON: Well, first of all, my job is public safety. It’s not immigration policy. I can tell you that the vast majority of all of our citizens, no matter their ethnicity, are fine, hard-working people, and now is not the time for us to be divisive. We already have a very cohesive community, and I expect that this will draw us even closer together. But at the end of the day, our job is public safety, period.

The interview only went on a few more seconds, because they weren’t getting the answer they wanted out of him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:41:05pm

re: #132 Interesting Times

How Donald Trump ushered a hateful fringe movement into the mainstream

He did not do it on his own: he had the full support of the news media, who insisted that these positions must have some merit because they are being presented by the candidate of a major party that nominated him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:41:49pm

re: #136 Anymouse

Minnesota police chief swats down Steve Doocy on FOX. Mr. Doocy was looking for confirmation from the police chief on the evils of immigrants in regard to the stabbing there.

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The interview only went on a few more seconds, because they weren’t getting the answer they wanted out of him.

Doocy is such a pathetic bigoted shit.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:42:45pm

re: #134 freetoken

It’s a long way from Baja to the NE panhandle…

Well, that’s true I guess.

We don’t get much in the way of tropical weather here, except when really powerful storms manage to power their way inland (like Hurricane Ike, which caused my wife to divert returning home from Chicago).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:42:49pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Doocy is such a pathetic bigoted shit.

He is just doing his job: namely promoting the narrative that immigrant Muslims (naturalized or not) pose an immediate threat to our national security.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:43:05pm

re: #97 Anymouse

In that case, maybe we should also give this fellow another look:

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:43:06pm

re: #132 Interesting Times

That author claims Bannon is the former boss of Breitbart. I thought Bannon was still at Breitbart?

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:43:28pm

re: #125 Belafon

She actually sold them to Isis. When a goddess asks, you don’t question her.

No telling what else she would do then. “Hillary gave White House condiments to Cthulhu! Confirmed! Fact!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:43:37pm
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Apparently, people in the 19th Century already knew about Rudy and Newt…

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Jenner7  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:44:26pm
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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:45:21pm

Securing America? Are we going to sell stocks?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:45:55pm

re: #145 Jenner7

Seriously is the Debate Commission for real with this bullshit?

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— Armando

Can’t access at work…can anybody enlighten?

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Jenner7  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:46:27pm

=re: #146 Anymouse

It sounds like they came directly from the Trump campaign.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:47:32pm

re: #136 Anymouse

Minnesota police chief swats down Steve Doocy on FOX. Mr. Doocy was looking for confirmation from the police chief on the evils of immigrants in regard to the stabbing there.

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The interview only went on a few more seconds, because they weren’t getting the answer they wanted out of him.

6000 SOMALIS!!!!!!!!!!

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Jenner7  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:48:12pm

re: #147 Sir John Barron

1. America’s Direction

2. Achieving Prosperity

3. Securing America

These are the topics for the debate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:48:13pm

re: #147 Sir John Barron

Can’t access at work…can anybody enlighten?

America’s Direction (or why we are going to Hell in a Handbasket)

Achieving Prosperity (or how Obama has ruined the economy and only DT can fix it)

and

Securing America (or why we can’t turn around without another Muslim immigrant setting off a bomb)

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:48:17pm

re: #147 Sir John Barron

There is no pretense of reflection, self-examination, or whatever one could call a value-centric view of life.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:48:33pm

re: #145 Jenner7

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:48:48pm

re: #136 Anymouse

Minnesota police chief swats down Steve Doocy on FOX. Mr. Doocy was looking for confirmation from the police chief on the evils of immigrants in regard to the stabbing there.

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The interview only went on a few more seconds, because they weren’t getting the answer they wanted out of him.

Oh shut up, you loser Sheriff, Clinton stooge, President Trump will have you exiled.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:49:09pm

Those three things are all about fear:

Fear of being lost.
Fear of being poor.
Fear of the other.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:49:35pm

re: #155 freetoken

Those three things are all about fear:

Fear of being lost.
Fear of being poor.
Fear of the other.

Too true.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:49:48pm

re: #150 Jenner7

1. America’s Direction

2. Achieving Prosperity

3. Securing America

These are the topics for the debate.

I can’t wait for Trump’s plan to achieve 5% unemployment and a 18000 DOW.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:50:03pm

re: #148 Jenner7

=

It sounds like they came directly from the Trump campaign.

I’m not sure you could pick topics that everyone would agree are “neutral” topics. For example, if the topics were instead:

Women’s reproductive rights
Making college accessible
Health Care

I suspect the right wing would claim the media is in the tank for Mrs. Clinton.

I also suspect that regardless of the topic, provided the debate is moderated fairly, Mrs. Clinton could wipe the debate floor with the Velveeta Racoon’s raccoon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:50:06pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Hopefully these sink Trump.

Objectively, they will, but in the subjective view of the Press, we will be focused on Hillary’s mean expression, her shaking hands, sweating upper lip and failing hairdo…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:50:42pm

re: #147 Sir John Barron

Can’t access at work…can anybody enlighten?

Specifics? Should say “Generalities Released For First Debate”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:51:29pm

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Objectively, they will, but in the subjective view of the Press, we will be focused on Hillary’s mean expression, her shaking hands, sweating upper lip and failing hairdo…

Just as long as Roberts isn’t swearing his orange ass in January.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:51:59pm

re: #150 Jenner7

1. America’s Direction

2. Achieving Prosperity

3. Securing America

These are the topics for the debate.

1. America’s Direction. How come we don’t win anymore?
2. Achieving Prosperity. Why are some loser people still poor?
3. Securing America. How can we prevent crime by non-NRA types?

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:52:30pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:53:35pm

2. Achieving Prosperity. How come gasoline, at $2 a gallon, is so damn expensive?

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:54:16pm

re: #150 Jenner7

1. America’s Direction

2. Achieving Prosperity

3. Securing America

These are the topics for the debate.

America’s Direction: Greater investment in science, technology, and infrastructure.
Achieving prosperity: With a $16T GDP, add more with the first.
Securing America: Sensible gun regulation and monitoring of homegrown terrorist cells on the right.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:54:31pm

re: #150 Jenner7

1. America’s Direction

Trump: Twirling, twirling toward freedom.
Clinton: East.

2. Achieving Prosperity

Trump: I’ve got beach front property in Arizona and a bridge in New Mexico to sell you.
Clinton: Going to do more of what Obama’s doing, and infrastructure.

3. Securing America

Trump: We’re all gonna die!!!!
Clinton: Eventually, but for now, we’re going to balance security and freedom.

These are the topics for the debate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:54:38pm
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And yet the rubes still showed up at his rally…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:54:39pm

2. Achieving Prosperity. Inflation is about 0%. How do we prevent Zimbabwe hyper-inflation that everyone agrees is right around the corner?

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:55:01pm
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From his statement:

We also desperately need the active participation of American Muslims who see the jihadis for what they are: the enemies of all who celebrate freedom and tolerance.

Yeah, we just put on our special jihadi detecting glasses. 😎

Congress should act to prevent Americans who have travelled abroad for training from returning here, and to stop the flow of refugees from hotbeds of terrorism in the Middle East that President Obama is determined to bring to our country.

So American citizens should be expatriated without due process? How would one find out what they traveled abroad for? Where would they be sent upon return, Gitmo? Would there be secret military tribunals, or what? Yeah, you smarmy asshole, threatening to do this will really make us want to help. (I guess, presumably, we’re not ALREADY helping.)

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:55:24pm

My answer to those three “questions” (and why I could never be elected to office):

1) There is no thing that ought to be engineered as far as “direction” - it’s a meaningless idea. That this question is even asked is a holdover from religious-zealotry which asks variant of this question to entrap people into a belief system. The moderator might as well ask “Is America going to Heaven or Hell?” and then offer up a Chick tract.

2) What is “prosperity”? Is it money? Or is it happiness?

3) There is no external existential threat to the US.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:55:24pm

re: #157 Sir John Barron

I can’t wait for Trump’s plan to achieve 5% unemployment and a 18000 DOW.

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I think his plan is to get elected. Then, see, both of those are true because of him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:55:42pm

re: #48 Barefoot Grin

Busy making cars in Dearborn.

So nice that a Jewish boy runs the company now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:56:34pm

re: #169 CuriousLurker

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From his statement:

Yeah, we just put on our special jihadi detecting glasses. 😎

So American citizens should be expatriated without due process? How would one find out what they traveled abroad for? Where would they be sent upon return, Gitmo? Would there be secret military tribunals, or what? Yeah, you smarmy asshole, threatening to do this will really make us want to help. (I guess, presumably, we’re not ALREADY helping.)

I’m glad Ted is still out there to remind us that he’s just as awful as Trump. Really the nerve of this guy whose father benefited from a liberal refugee program bitching about it. Fuck Cruz.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:56:53pm

2. Achieving Prosperity. How do we get unemployment down from it’s high of 40%, which everyone agrees is the real unemployment rate, despite the BS government stats that we’ve all taken as granted for a century?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:57:21pm
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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:57:52pm

Cruz:

… and to stop the flow of refugees from hotbeds of terrorism in the Middle East that President Obama is determined to bring to our country.

People trying to escape from warfare and destruction, screw ‘em.

Another reason why I am neither a conservative nor a Christian.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:57:59pm

Securing America- Hiw do we scapegoat all Muslims while allowing right wing gun fuckers to buy guns with zero regulations?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:58:22pm

re: #64 ramex

The call for police to tail anyone under fifty who buys a pressure cooker would entail what? Monitoring online activity, phone calls, permanent police presence in Walmart, Target, Sears and maybe just dropping a tactical nuke on PRESTO?

I bought my pressure cooker on Amazon.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:58:28pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:58:42pm

re: #176 Anymouse

Cruz:

People trying to escape from warfare and destruction, screw ‘em.

Another reason why I am neither a conservative nor a Christian.

Certainly not in the current commonly accepted sense

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:59:01pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump: “We’re in medieval times. That’s what we are.”
— Daniel Dale

Well, we’re about to be if this shitclown wins.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 1:59:04pm

re: #178 The Vicious Babushka

I bought my pressure cooker on Amazon.

But can you make tacos in it?

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:00:05pm

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Certainly not in the current commonly accepted sense

My guess would be they’d send Jesus to Gitmo if he were escaping warfare from the Levant.

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Cheechako  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:00:35pm

OT - Another “accidental” shooting. This occurred just 6 homes down the street from my house. I didn’t know the victim but I’m sure I’ve see him walking by the house on the way to school.

THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT, just plain stupidity. Firearms should NEVER be loaded before getting to the firing line at the range or getting set up in the field for hunting.

Also anyone should not grab the business end of a firearm to handle it.

A great young man taken too early by stupidity.


TMHS student dies of accidental gunshot

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:00:43pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:01:38pm

2. Achieving Prosperity. When will we finally End the Fed?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:02:23pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:02:46pm

1. America’s Direction. Shouldn’t we just take over Canada?

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:02:58pm

This is a big problem: the national conversation is being steered for high drama rather than for solving real problems.

Not only does Drumpfskind play into the baser parts of human nature, but the entire election-industry, which includes what we used to call the media, strives for more drama (to drive ratings.)

And that is why the debate commission, which to do its job needs the broadcasters on board, frames the “debate” with very loaded verbs.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:03:22pm

I am over summer. OVER IT. Also this election season.

(Eight miles, and it was easily 93 by the time I finished. I felt about as awful as I probably would if you made me listen to a Trump speech, but with the benefit of knowing I was at least being productive.)

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:06:30pm

re: #191 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am over summer. OVER IT. Also this election season.

(Eight miles, and it was easily 93 by the time I finished. I felt about as awful as I probably would if you made me listen to a Trump speech, but with the benefit of knowing I was at least being productive.)

You ran 8 miles?!? And maybe 9 point 3? Or 93, or it felt like 93? Ohhhh, 93 degrees.

Good work!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:06:57pm
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piratedan  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:08:22pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

At this point, I’m not even sure if Trump could name all 50 states, much less their capitols.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:08:30pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

[SPECIFICS FOR THE FIRST DEBATE!

America’s Wonderfulness
Be Here Now
Don’t Talk With Your Mouth Full]

Sip that water!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:08:30pm

re: #150 Jenner7

1. America’s Direction

2. Achieving Prosperity

3. Securing America

These are the topics for the debate.

I don’t think you could come up with vaguer topics than these. BUT, in each case, there’s something HRC can nail him with, because his solutions on those issues are all backward-looking horseshit. His economic program is to make the rich much richer while exploding the deficit and igniting trade wars in hopes of somehow recreating the Rust Belt of the 1950s, even though most of those jobs were killed by technology not trade.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:09:40pm
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Jenner7  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:09:41pm
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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:10:06pm

re: #189 Sir John Barron

1. America’s Direction. Shouldn’t we just take over Canada?

/

That might very well be the flood of everyone the alt-right hates.

Canada might build a wall and pay for it themselves.

OT. Felix Randomkitty Diabetic the First is getting more energetic as he puts on weight … he just laid my hand open with about a hundred claws. Bandaged and such now; I guess he is getting back to normal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:10:59pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bombing suspect Ahmad Khan Rahami to face 5 charges of attempted murder, 2 gun charge

But no charges of Islamist Terrorism? What a PC farce!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:12:29pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:13:21pm

re: #192 wrenchwench

You ran 8 miles?!? And maybe 9 point 3? Or 93, or it felt like 93? Ohhhh, 93 degrees.

Good work!

I don’t run 9 miles (it’s supposed to be 9.5, we’ll see if it ends up that or rounded up to 10) until after the election.

When it should be cooler, CA. COOLER WEATHER. NICE THINGS. I’m not even asking for rain here, just not the 90s…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:13:22pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:13:29pm

re: #121 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, here’s the thing - we only have Presidential elections every 4 years, so the N is very small to try and determine accuracy.

Sam Wang and Nate Silver try to do the same thing, each with their own particular take on probability and percent uncertainty, and come up with similar expected outcomes with very different percent probabilities. In 2012, they both pretty much hit the nail on the head. But with an N of 1 every 4 years, it is not really possible to know whose probabilities are more accurate.

The main difference between Sam Wang and Nate Silver is Wang isn’t in it for the money. He’s an academic, a tenured professor who isn’t trying to sell ad views. This is his hobby. All he cares about is the statistical accuracy and scientific validity of his model.

Silver has massively commercialized his product, sold it repeatedly (most recently to ESPN,) hyped it and has a vested interest in making it as visually and emotionally engaging as possible. Silver’s bottom line depends on getting people to come back every day and check how things are doing, he profits from the very thing he used to criticize, the media horserace narrative. That, in my opinion, explains a great deal of the volatility in his model, especially this year.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:13:30pm

Mmpf. Twitter also made it so that quoted tweets no longer count toward the character limit, but this only works if you use the “Quote Tweet” option on their website or in TweetDeck. The only way to embed a quoted tweet with the Twitter API is to include the URL of the quoted tweet in your tweet - but if you do this with the API it still counts as a URL.

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:13:36pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

So Lindsey Graham wants to take Americans and put them in that category too?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:13:49pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s a US citizen Lindsay and you as a lawyer should know be better then that instead of pandering to the idiots who hate you anyhow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:13:50pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:14:01pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:14:09pm

re: #198 Jenner7

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:14:35pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

If true, then that is just one more illustration of why the GOP really did give birth to Drumpfskind, though some try to deny it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:14:38pm

re: #204 goddamnedfrank

The main difference between Sam Wang and Nate Silver is Wang isn’t in it for the money. He’s an academic, a tenured professor who isn’t trying to sell ad views. This is his hobby. All he cares about is the statistical accuracy and scientific validity of his model.

Silver has massively commercialized his product, sold it repeatedly (most recently to ESPN,) hyped it and has a massive vested interest in making it as visually and emotionally engaging as possible. Silver’s bottom line depends on getting people to come back every day and check how things are doing, he profits from the very thing he used to criticize, the media horserace narrative. That, in my opinion, explains a great deal of the volatility in his model, especially this year.

Agreed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:15:27pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks like he’s had practice.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:15:44pm

“Enemy combatant,” another of those Orwellian non-sense words that we have Dubya to thank for entering into our lexicon.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:15:57pm

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:17:14pm

re: #204 goddamnedfrank

You probably could have saved some typing by just writing “Silver=ESPN”, the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:18:24pm

re: #202 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t run 9 miles (it’s supposed to be 9.5, we’ll see if it ends up that or rounded up to 10) until after the election.

When it should be cooler, CA. COOLER WEATHER. NICE THINGS. I’m not even asking for rain here, just not the 90s…

The high temps here went into the 70s last week. I broke out the long sleeved t-shirts.

/did somebody say ‘wuss’?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:18:27pm

re: #191 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am over summer. OVER IT. Also this election season.

(Eight miles, and it was easily 93 by the time I finished. I felt about as awful as I probably would if you made me listen to a Trump speech, but with the benefit of knowing I was at least being productive.)

I went for a ride yesterday afternoon. Rolled out at 11:30. It seemed a trifle warm. Got home 3 1/2 hours later and looked at Weather Underground, and discovered it was in the mid 90s all along my route. Sheesh!

BUT I learned my lesson after overheating and making The Call Of Shame a few years back - every so often, I’d pour water from my bottle over my back and onto my head and neck. Works great!

Oh, and I got to see these…

Thanksgiving is still 2 months off! Relax!
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:18:36pm

re: #216 freetoken

You probably could have saved some typing by just writing “Silver=ESPN”, the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network.

I do like Nate still but it’s clear to me he’s more about the entertainment factor this year than four years ago, and that’s okay but it’s also why I trust Sam more.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:20:08pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OFFS. Why?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:20:33pm

I just watched the helicopter over the police killing Terence Crutcher.

They said “taser that thing”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:20:47pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did he throw a Googly?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:21:40pm

re: #221 Stanley Sea

I just watched the helicopter over the police killing Terence Crutcher.

They said “taser that thing”

And they have the nerve to cry about Kaepernick’s practice socks.

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lockjawcanbefun  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:23:29pm

Your most Canadian news story of the day (and look what is across the street):

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:24:35pm

re: #184 Cheechako

OT - Another “accidental” shooting. This occurred just 6 homes down the street from my house. I didn’t know the victim but I’m sure I’ve see him walking by the house on the way to school.

THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT, just plain stupidity. Firearms should NEVER be loaded before getting to the firing line at the range or getting set up in the field for hunting.

Also anyone should not grab the business end of a firearm to handle it.

A great young man taken too early by stupidity.


TMHS student dies of accidental gunshot

agreed. there are no gun accidents. just demonstrated degrees of stupidity

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:24:39pm

re: #224 lockjawcanbefun

Your most Canadian news story of the day (and look what is across the street):

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Oh, Canada.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:25:09pm

re: #224 lockjawcanbefun

Your most Canadian news story of the day:

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…look at what’s just south of Tim Horton’s on that map….

**whistles**

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:26:09pm

I’m off to take a nap. I have a village board meeting to go to in an hour and a half.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:26:44pm
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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:27:03pm

re: #191 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am over summer. OVER IT. Also this election season.

(Eight miles, and it was easily 93 by the time I finished. I felt about as awful as I probably would if you made me listen to a Trump speech, but with the benefit of knowing I was at least being productive.)

(i ran 2.25 though it was only in the 80’s)

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:27:05pm

WTF

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Skip Intro  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:27:49pm

re: #157 Sir John Barron

I can’t wait for Trump’s plan to achieve 5% unemployment and a 18000 DOW.

/

He always has a plan. TRUST ME.

No need for the first debate now.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:29:32pm

re: #224 lockjawcanbefun

Your most Canadian news story of the day:

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“delays”. not “we’re closed”

that’s service

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:29:37pm

re: #232 Skip Intro

He always has a plan. TRUST ME.

No need for the first debate now.

“I promise you, as soon as I take office, unemployment will be around 5%, and the Dow will be over 18,000!”

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Anymouse  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:31:25pm

re: #233 dangerman

“delays”. not “we’re closed”

that’s service

Did the deer drink all the coffee and eat all the doughnuts, hence the delay?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:31:57pm

re: #164 Sir John Barron

2. Achieving Prosperity. How come gasoline, at $2 a gallon, is so damn expensive?

We used to get free dishes and glasses for getting a full tank!!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:32:06pm

re: #29 gwangung

50% of Trump voters in Iowa thought Japanese American internment was justified.

Deplorables. To say they’re not racist is a lie.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:32:07pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lindsey Graham can go screw himself. I have zero sympathy for Rahami & his ilk, but I’ll be damned if I’ll support GOP assholes trying to strip American Muslims of their civil rights & liberties. So what next, just send drones to suspects’ houses and have them & their families exterminated as Von ClownStick desires?

Loss of Citizenship and Nationality

A U.S. citizen by birth or naturalization INA 301 (8 U.S.C. 1401), INA 310 (8 U.S.C. 1421) or a U.S. noncitizen national INA 308 (8 U.S.C. 1408), INA 101(29) (8 U.S.C. 1101(29)) will lose U.S. nationality (“expatriate”) her or himself by committing a statutory act of expatriation as defined in INA 349 (8 U.S.C. 1481), or predecessor statute, but only if the act is performed (1) voluntarily and (2) with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship.  The U.S. Supreme Court has spoken (Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967) and Vance v. Terrazas, 444 U.S. 252 (1980)):  a person cannot lose U.S. nationality unless he or she voluntarily relinquishes that status.

travel.state.gov

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:32:30pm

re: #231 Stanley Sea

Has there ever been a major party candidate/nominee whose family was this involved in his/her campaign? Romney’s kids would give some speeches or interviews, but I don’t remember anyone getting a sit down with the Speaker of the House. This is just weird…

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Skip Intro  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:33:23pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

“I promise you, as soon as I take office, unemployment will be around 5%, and the Dow will be over 18,000!”

If he gets elected both of those statements will end up being lies.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:33:24pm

re: #230 dangerman

(i ran 2.25 though it was only in the 80’s)

As I reminded myself today, my time wasn’t the important part, the fact that I was doing it was.

Still ended up with a good pace (probably faster than I should have for the heat, honestly).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:33:36pm
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And yet…

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Trial by jury and the presumption of innocence are the bedrock of our justice system, what SEPARATES US from medieval times. Look for Trump to advocate Trial By Combat any day now.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:33:49pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

The high temps here went into the 70s last week. I broke out the long sleeved t-shirts.

/did somebody say ‘wuss’?

*raises hand…*

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:34:41pm

re: #224 lockjawcanbefun

Your most Canadian news story of the day (and look what is across the street):

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:35:11pm

re: #236 Barefoot Grin

We used to get free dishes and glasses for getting a full tank!!

OMG, I hadn’t thought of that in ages! Also S&H green stamps—my mom used to collect them. I wonder if they still even exist…

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:35:59pm

re: #224 lockjawcanbefun

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:36:08pm

Okay, how do I get rid of the double tweets?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:36:35pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did Lindsay say the same about that White shooter who killed those Black worshippers in South Carolina? If not, he needs to shut up and take several seats.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:37:49pm

re: #245 CuriousLurker

OMG, I hadn’t thought of that in ages! Also S&H green stamps—my mom used to collect them. I wonder if they still even exist…

Collecting S&H Green Stamps was a hobby I shared with my grandmother. I used gas station dish ware through grad school!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:37:51pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:39:34pm
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RTWT. It ends with this:

[…]

I realize that there is far more detail here about Poland than most non-Polish readers care to know. But I’m offering it for a reason. Trump, like Kaczynski, pushed a patently false conspiracy theory hard for many years, despite the utter lack of evidence. Last week, he found it expedient to discard that theory, but once he is president, he might find it expedient to adopt it again — or perhaps to push one of the many others he has championed. As president, he can then use the state — the Justice Department, the security bureaucracy, the FBI — to pursue them. A Trump administration could make birtherism the excuse for fake investigations, hearings and even trials that would do terrible and irreversible damage to U.S. politics and the rule of law.

It all sounds unthinkable, of course. But if you’d asked me five years ago, or even one year ago, I would have told you that the transformation of the Smolensk conspiracy theory into state ideology was unthinkable, too. And yet it has come to pass.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:42:48pm

re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White

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Trial by jury and the presumption of innocence are the bedrock of our justice system, what SEPARATES US from medieval times. Look for Trump to advocate Trial By Combat any day now.

I’ve joked before, but I’m fairly certain I’d be a better lawyer if we had trial by combat.

In all seriousness, though, this is what Bush’s war on terror brought us… the idea that we don’t need due process of law for terrorists because reasons. A society’s values aren’t tested in times of peace and prosperity, they are tested in times of crisis and panic, and we have a large percentage of people who are actively rooting against our values.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:42:55pm

re: #249 Barefoot Grin

Collecting S&H Green Stamps was a hobby I shared with my grandmother. I used gas station dish ware through grad school!

And free stuff used to come with laundry detergent & such too, remember?

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bratwurst  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:43:45pm

Here is a longish read from Politico on “Glenn Beck’s bad bet on Ted Cruz” playing a role in his business troubles. It is probably worth a few minutes of your day, but for me they buried the most fascinating detail at the end: the fact that Beck “rented” his email list to Trump for fundraising purposes.

Yes, the man who called Trump a “narcissistic psychopath” who will cause a civil war is now making money of his efforts to become president.

TL;DR: Beck is, as ever, a charlatan.

About to shut down and head to the airport. Will check in here and there, but serious distance from campaign developments is a big part of my trip.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:44:32pm

re: #252 KGxvi

I’ve joked before, but I’m fairly certain I’d be a better lawyer if we had trial by combat.

In all seriousness, though, this is what Bush’s war on terror brought us… the idea that we don’t need due process of law for terrorists because reasons. A society’s values aren’t tested in times of peace and prosperity, they are tested in times of crisis and panic, and we have a large percentage of people who are actively rooting against our values.

The same people who speak of rights coming from God, not government will tell you noncitizens have no rights.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:44:56pm

re: #252 KGxvi

I’ve joked before, but I’m fairly certain I’d be a better lawyer if we had trial by combat.

In all seriousness, though, this is what Bush’s war on terror brought us… the idea that we don’t need due process of law for terrorists because reasons. A society’s values aren’t tested in times of peace and prosperity, they are tested in times of crisis and panic, and we have a large percentage of people who are actively rooting against our values.

THIS.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:45:49pm

re: #254 bratwurst

Have a great trip!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:46:14pm

re: #254 bratwurst

Hope you have a fantastic time. :)

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:47:54pm

re: #250 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That reminds me of this (from the Oatmeal):

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:48:57pm

re: #259 KGxvi

mr. klys is enormously skeptical of any fusion restaurant. ANY.

But especially Asian ones.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:49:41pm

re: #247 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, how do I get rid of the double tweets?

This might help you more than it did me.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:50:15pm

re: #260 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys is enormously skeptical of any fusion restaurant. ANY.

But especially Asian ones.

Southern California has had a fairly recent break out of Korean Tacos… I don’t know what to make of them, and find it’s probably best if I keep my distance.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:52:16pm

re: #262 KGxvi

Southern California has had a fairly recent break out of Korean Tacos… I don’t know what to make of them, and find it’s probably best if I keep my distance.

I do find it funny because ramen is one of my favorite things to eat in Japan.

(Fantastic hangover food.)

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:52:35pm

re: #254 bratwurst

re: #257 wrenchwench

Have a great trip!

re: #258 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hope you have a fantastic time. :)

Seconded!

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:53:44pm

re: #261 wrenchwench

This might help you more than it did me.

Ooh, thanks. I’d missed that.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:55:42pm

re: #265 CuriousLurker

Ooh, thanks. I’d missed that.

Let me know if it still works. Twitter’s always changing things (never Charles, oh, no) and I try to keep up….

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BeachDem  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:56:47pm

re: #145 Jenner7

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Those are debate topics? They sound more like right-wing SuperPac names.

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blueraven  Sep 19, 2016 • 2:59:43pm

re: #253 CuriousLurker

And free stuff used to come with laundry detergent & such too, remember?

Yes!

I used to get the S&H stamps at the Winn-Dixie every time I shopped for groceries.The more you spend…sometimes they offered double green stamps!

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:01:06pm

re: #266 wrenchwench

Let me know if it still works. Twitter’s always changing things (never Charles, oh, no) and I try to keep up….

Yep, still works. Kewl.

Without ?hide:

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:02:59pm

re: #269 CuriousLurker

Yep, still works. Kewl.

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Thanks!

Added to the file where I can never find it when I need it.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:03:32pm

re: #204 goddamnedfrank

The main difference between Sam Wang and Nate Silver is Wang isn’t in it for the money. He’s an academic, a tenured professor who isn’t trying to sell ad views. This is his hobby. All he cares about is the statistical accuracy and scientific validity of his model.

Silver has massively commercialized his product, sold it repeatedly (most recently to ESPN,) hyped it and has a vested interest in making it as visually and emotionally engaging as possible. Silver’s bottom line depends on getting people to come back every day and check how things are doing, he profits from the very thing he used to criticize, the media horserace narrative. That, in my opinion, explains a great deal of the volatility in his model, especially this year.

I believe Silver’s model includes results from online polls. I can’t see any way to make that valid.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:06:15pm
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calochortus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:06:31pm

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There’s a “Japanese Tapas” place I drive by from time to time. Can’t say I’ve ever stopped to try them.

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:07:40pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

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RTWT. It ends with this:

I seriously think the Democratic Party’s opposition research organization needs to broaden its focus to include things like the conspiracy industry, Sovereign citizens (especially “sovereign sheriffs”) and the Texas Independence Movement. The latter, you might recall, was a running joke until Russian wingnuts started to take an interest in it. Now it is officially enshrined in GOP county platforms all over Texas.

It is understandable that op-research has tended to ignore these phenomena. Op-research specialists are political professionals and these things have always been on the safely ignored fringe. The fringe dwellers have moved into the mainstream, however; perhaps more quickly than professional political operatives have been able to adjust. It seems possible that Republican operatives were able to adjust more quickly than Democrats because their 40 year romance with the religious right has accustomed them to hinterland hucksters and their methods and audience.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:08:10pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

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Was he reading off a teleprompter or something? Because 75% of that sounded nothing like him.

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:08:14pm

re: #273 calochortus

There’s a “Japanese Tapas” place I drive by from time to time. Can’t say I’ve ever stopped to try them.

I just Googled that-apparently Japanese Tapas are a thing. Who would have guessed?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:08:22pm

re: #273 calochortus

There’s a “Japanese Tapas” place I drive by from time to time. Can’t say I’ve ever stopped to try them.

Well, there is a thing in Japan (izakaya) that is most easily explained to non-Japanese folks as “Japanese tapas.” (I am guilty of having used this description myself.)

It’s more the concept of small dishes served to accompany drinking and has nothing to do with any kind of Spanish cooking whatsoever. Assuming that’s what the place actually is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:09:32pm

re: #259 KGxvi

That reminds me of this (from the Oatmeal):

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Mrs. FBW just saw that her Grandparents’ house, in the middle of nowhere in the Upper Lefthand Corner of PA is for sale. She’s fantasizing about buying it, renting it out to cover the mortgage until we retire, then moving there. I should remind her of this, especially after Saturday night, when neither of us felt like cooking, so we went out for Potstickers, Black Bean Sauce Chow Fun, and Eggplant with Garlic Sauce.

The town where that house is has one of those ‘Asian Cuisine’ places. We ate there once. It was horrible.

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:09:38pm

re: #277 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And that explains it.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:10:00pm

re: #241 klys (maker of Silmarils)

As I reminded myself today, my time wasn’t the important part, the fact that I was doing it was.

Still ended up with a good pace (probably faster than I should have for the heat, honestly).

i used to get up really early to beat the heat. its a tough time of year when its well over 80 degrees at 4 or 5 in the morning. eventually i looked back and realized i just embraced it. until the leg injury i was running 10k every day carrying no water. many days i’d do a second run in the +95 degree afternoon (max 2-3 miles)

your attitude is spot on
remember also that heat running is training just like running itself is training. it gets easier, you get better at it, and it gets more enjoyable. just like trail running, hills, whatever

i cant say the same for sub 32 degree running, though i have learned with the right clothing and attitude i can do it a few times a year because its temporary

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:10:58pm

re: #252 KGxvi

I’ve joked before, but I’m fairly certain I’d be a better lawyer if we had trial by combat.

In all seriousness, though, this is what Bush’s war on terror brought us… the idea that we don’t need due process of law for terrorists because reasons. A society’s values aren’t tested in times of peace and prosperity, they are tested in times of crisis and panic, and we have a large percentage of people who are actively rooting against our values.

same with one-on-one interpersonal relationships

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:11:44pm

re: #279 calochortus

And that explains it.

We have a really tasty one down here. Good and authentic and just yum.

Maybe we should go to dinner there this week.

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:12:11pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW just saw that her Grandparents’ house, in the middle of nowhere in the Upper Lefthand Corner of PA is for sale. She’s fantasizing about buying it, renting it out to cover the mortgage until we retire, then moving there. I should remind her of this, especially after Saturday night, when neither of us felt like cooking, so we went out for Potstickers, Black Bean Sauce Chow Fun, and Eggplant with Garlic Sauce.

The town where that house is has one of those ‘Asian Cuisine’ places. We ate there once. It was horrible.

You could further point out to her that being a landlord from 2000 miles away is less entertaining that it might appear at first.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:12:38pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

So now our healthcare is the best in the world??

Gee. Thanks Obama.

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:12:40pm

How about a pro-American wikileaks to reveal dirt on the conspiracy industry, GOP media, and Putin?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:13:28pm

re: #283 calochortus

You could further point out to her that being a landlord from 2000 miles away is less entertaining that it might appear at first.

Her cousins run a Property Management company, so Mrs. FBW refers to colorfully as “Slumlords”.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:13:46pm
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calochortus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:14:02pm

re: #286 Blind Frog Belly White

Her cousins run a Property Management company, so Mrs. FBW refers to colorfully as “Slumlords”.

What could possibly go wrong?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:15:08pm

re: #215 wrenchwench

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I’m REALLY hoping we didn’t fuck up it and do this…

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Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:15:29pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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2003 called. It wants it’s bullshit back…

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:16:01pm

re: #274 Shiplord Kirel

I seriously think the Democratic Party’s opposition research organization needs to broaden its focus to include things like the conspiracy industry, Sovereign citizens (especially “sovereign sheriffs”) and the Texas Independence Movement. The latter, you might recall, was a running joke until Russian wingnuts started to take an interest in it. Now it is officially enshrined in GOP county platforms all over Texas.

It is understandable that op-research has tended to ignore these phenomena. Op-research specialists are political professionals and these things have always been on the safely ignored fringe. The fringe dwellers have moved into the mainstream, however; perhaps more quickly than professional political operatives have been able to adjust. It seems possible that Republican operatives were able to adjust more quickly than Democrats because their 40 year romance with the religious right has accustomed them to hinterland hucksters and their methods and audience.

I think young earth creationism has also given Republicans and the conservative movement practice with lying as the standard approach for everything.

Young earth creationism by itself is not necessarily a lie, since one can imagine a true believer in it who consistently claims ‘goddidit’ by making an old-looking earth very recently.

It becomes a lie when creationists claim that empirical evidence supports creationism, and this claim that empirical evidence supports YEC is always made by the YEC advocates and apologists. Liars, all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:16:43pm

re: #280 dangerman

i used to get up really early to beat the heat. its a tough time of year when its well over 80 degrees at 4 or 5 in the morning. eventually i looked back and realized i just embraced it. until the leg injury i was running 10k every day carrying no water. many days i’d do a second run in the +95 degree afternoon (max 2-3 miles)

your attitude is spot on
remember also that heat running is training just like running itself is training. it gets easier, you get better at it, and it gets more enjoyable. just like trail running, hills, whatever

i cant say the same for sub 32 degree running, though i have learned with the right clothing and attitude i can do it a few times a year because its temporary

I would caution you, however, about running with no water. I speak as a kidney stone sufferer. My Doc says she thinks of weekends like this last one as ‘Kidney Stone Weather’, and indeed, the last time I had a bad attack, it was after a long ride on a hot day. That’s why I no longer do any ride >1h without water, and yesterday’s 3 1/2 hour ride involved drinking about 4 x 24oz bottles on the bike, and more after my return.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:17:24pm

re: #274 Shiplord Kirel

I seriously think the Democratic Party’s opposition research organization needs to broaden its focus to include things like the conspiracy industry, Sovereign citizens (especially “sovereign sheriffs”) and the Texas Independence Movement. The latter, you might recall, was a running joke until Russian wingnuts started to take an interest in it. Now it is officially enshrined in GOP county platforms all over Texas.

It is understandable that op-research has tended to ignore these phenomena. Op-research specialists are political professionals and these things have always been on the safely ignored fringe. The fringe dwellers have moved into the mainstream, however; perhaps more quickly than professional political operatives have been able to adjust. It seems possible that Republican operatives were able to adjust more quickly than Democrats because their 40 year romance with the religious right has accustomed them to hinterland hucksters and their methods and audience.

Perhaps Trump and the Bundys have awakened enough people to take all these things seriously. The baskets need lids.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:17:25pm

re: #275 CuriousLurker

Was he reading off a teleprompter or something? Because 75% of that sounded nothing like him.

Yup

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:19:04pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Goober Graham lost a lot of wingnut cred by opposing Trump. He is spouting some of their standard gibberish in a pathetic effort to win some of it back.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:19:34pm

re: #288 calochortus

What could possibly go wrong?

Yeah, we’d have to trust that THEY don’t want their Grandparents’ house damaged, either, and that they’d work to make sure there’s always a renter.

But really, it’s retiring to that area that bothers me most. Too cold in the winter, too much snow, too monocultural. At least the area where I grew up is close enough to DC that there’s more cultural diversity.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:19:47pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

I have a backpack that also conveniently holds my phone. And my timer so it’s up by my ear and I can hear the beep that tells me when to walk/run.

And it’s always full with water when I start. Was substantially less full when I got home today.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:20:04pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

I would caution you, however, about running with no water. I speak as a kidney stone sufferer. My Doc says she thinks of weekends like this last one as ‘Kidney Stone Weather’, and indeed, the last time I had a bad attack, it was after a long ride on a hot day. That’s why I no longer do any ride >1h without water, and yesterday’s 3 1/2 hour ride involved drinking about 4 x 24oz bottles on the bike, and more after my return.

It’s soooooooooo much easier to carry water on the bike than while running. And drink it, too.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:20:39pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

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The we must have a speedy trial and deliver harsh punishment is an amazing/terrifying read. It’s completely obvious that he just wants the barest resemblance of a trial so we can skip to the execution…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:21:33pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:22:03pm

re: #275 CuriousLurker

Right-they don’t want her-they want Donald Trump-WTF?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:22:51pm
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sagehen  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:23:30pm

re: #260 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys is enormously skeptical of any fusion restaurant. ANY.

But especially Asian ones.

Mr Klys is making a big mistake, missing out on the Teriyaki Pastrami Burrito.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:23:50pm

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

Why stop at 16?

Don’t 15 year olds have a future?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:23:55pm

re: #298 wrenchwench

It’s soooooooooo much easier to carry water on the bike than while running. And drink it, too.

True. But it’s also possible to ride for a lot longer time than it is to run. I don’t even want to THINK about running for 3 1/2 hours!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:25:05pm

re: #303 sagehen

Mr Klys is making a big mistake, missing out on the Teriyaki Pastrami Burrito.

LOL

He’ll eat just about anything once (I am reminded of a story about bee larva in teriyaki sauce) but that would probably earn some serious side-eye.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:25:43pm

re: #305 Blind Frog Belly White

True. But it’s also possible to ride for a lot longer time than it is to run. I don’t even want to THINK about running for 3 1/2 hours!

I’m hoping to finish the half in under 3 hours. (My stretch goal is in under 2:45.)

Just saying. ;)

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:25:59pm

re: #296 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, we’d have to trust that THEY don’t want their Grandparents’ house damaged, either, and that they’d work to make sure there’s always a renter.

But really, it’s retiring to that area that bothers me most. Too cold in the winter, too much snow, too monocultural. At least the area where I grew up is close enough to DC that there’s more cultural diversity.

That too. I’m a Bay Area native and living in the Denver area, and then Lancaster, PA was a fine thing when I was younger, what with the snow and all. I’m quite happy to be back in the Bay Area for my older years. Slipping on the ice can be amusing when you are 25 (just like a cartoon-feet up in the air, landing on butt, some bruising, no permanent damage,) but nearly 4 decades later, I don’t think it would have the same charm. Nor would shoveling snow.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:26:08pm

I’ve had virtually no customers today, but a guy came in to tell me he had signed up for a ride I organized in 2005 and then he couldn’t make it and I sent him his t-shirt anyway so he came in to shake my hand and thank me.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:27:21pm

re: #104 Anymouse

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Finally, one of these obscure bands I’ve actually seen in person! I particularly remember:

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:29:17pm

re: #291 EPR-radar

I think young earth creationism has also given Republicans and the conservative movement practice with lying as the standard approach for everything.

Young earth creationism by itself is not necessarily a lie, since one can imagine a true believer in it who consistently claims ‘goddidit’ by making an old-looking earth very recently.

It becomes a lie when creationists claim that empirical evidence supports creationism, and this claim that empirical evidence supports YEC is always made by the YEC advocates and apologists. Liars, all.

re: #293 wrenchwench

Perhaps Trump and the Bundys have awakened enough people to take all these things seriously. The baskets need lids.

Good comments both. I think for a long time politics functioned at a pretty high level in this country. There was a lot of dirt flung, to be sure, but not a lot of brazen, crazy lies. It took fundamentalist charlatans to demonstrate to the high-hat politicos just what it was possible to get away with in the way of big lies, especially with a certain, unfortunately very large, segment of the electorate. I first saw this in 2003, when I supported the Bush invasion of Iraq. In spite of some inconsistencies, I believed the WMD claims because I thought Bush could not possibly get away with lying about it. As I actually said right here, “He knows that if our guys go into Iraq and fail to turn up the WMDs, he is finished. Impeachment would not be out of the question.” I figured he had to know something I didn’t. Looks like he did, but it had nothing to do with actual WMDs.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:33:13pm

re: #125 Belafon

She actually sold them to Isis. When a goddess asks, you don’t question her.

When someone asks if you’re a goddess, you say yes!

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TedStriker  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:36:50pm

re: #312 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When someone asks if you’re a goddess, you say yes!

Are you a God?

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jeffreyw  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:40:14pm

re: #69 nines09

Completely OT and do I ever need to stay away from the shit storm. Check this out.Prisma

You can get effects like this..

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That’s my mutt Cookie. Waiting for me to throw his ball.

Thanks for the tip!

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:42:58pm

re: #314 jeffreyw

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Thanks for the tip!

Just don’t use it on the food, pal.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:43:41pm

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:44:46pm

Must go do stuff. BBL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:49:18pm
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jeffreyw  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:49:36pm

re: #315 wrenchwench

Just don’t use it on the food, pal.

Dammit, I took that as a challenge but their servers are over capacity, so here’s another kitteh:

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:50:07pm

I seem to recall some terror attacks on Muslims in NY recently.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 3:58:33pm

What Islamophobia? No such thing!

In the period from 2000-2010 15% of DOJ RLUIPA investigations into land use or institutional religious discrimination involved mosques or Islamic schools. In the past six years the number has risen to 37%. Muslims make up about 1% of the population.

But remember, it’s just the parking/traffic/noise—never discrimination!

See pages 4-6:

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:00:21pm

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

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Have to agree; their minds haven’t been pickled by Fox News.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:00:40pm

re: #314 jeffreyw

OMG! I LOVE IT!!!!

Here’s Stella!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:01:52pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:02:09pm

re: #283 calochortus

You could further point out to her that being a landlord from 2000 miles away is less entertaining that it might appear at first.

And remind her that NW PA is absolutely beautiful during the several months of the year it’s not under snow.

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scottslemmons  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:03:51pm

Are people really considering banning pressure cookers?

How many people get killed with guns vs. people who get killed with pressure cookers?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:04:49pm
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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:06:06pm

AGU at odds with the GOP:

Geophysicists: Evolution ‘Must Be Central’ in Science Ed

The American Geophysical Union has reaffirmed its position on teaching Earth history and evolution. “Scientific theories of Earth history and biological evolution are fundamental to understanding the natural world, are supported by extensive evidence and are noncontroversial within the scientific community,” the union’s updated statement says. “These principles of scientific understanding must be central elements of science education.”

The union says that no “alternative explanations” for biological evolution have been found, and that explanations of natural phenomena that appeal “to the supernatural based on religious doctrine — and therefore cannot be tested through scientific inquiry — are not scientific, and have no place in the science classroom. … To deny students a full understanding of the theory of evolution in the context of Earth history is to deprive them of an important part of their intellectual heritage.”

[…]

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:06:45pm

re: #326 scottslemmons

Are people really considering banning pressure cookers?

How many people get killed with guns vs. people who get killed with pressure cookers?

Obviously unlike guns, pressure cookers should be registered and owners licensed./

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:10:27pm

re: #329 Big Beautiful Door

Obviously unlike guns, pressure cookers should be registered and owners licensed./

There is no National Pressure Cooker Association so it could happen……

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:12:44pm
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dangerman  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:12:51pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

I would caution you, however, about running with no water. I speak as a kidney stone sufferer. My Doc says she thinks of weekends like this last one as ‘Kidney Stone Weather’, and indeed, the last time I had a bad attack, it was after a long ride on a hot day. That’s why I no longer do any ride >1h without water, and yesterday’s 3 1/2 hour ride involved drinking about 4 x 24oz bottles on the bike, and more after my return.

oh i agree entirely - i was shortcutting my description

10k is (well was) under an hour and under 85 degrees. i drink when i get back.
either over 85 or over an hour, i always carry water.
over 1 1/2 hrs, and were into gatorade, nutrition, drinking on a schedule etc
i carry 20 oz. if i need more, i buy on the road

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:13:01pm

re: #330 Shiplord Kirel

There is no National Pressure Cooker Association so it could happen……

Clearly I should buy mine now.

/

Well, mostly sarcasm. I’ve debated one in the past and still might, but I think that’s still a ways off.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:14:31pm

re: #316 Belafon

One of the arguments against women’s suffrage, in the early days, at least, was that a married woman would vote the same as her husband, so there was no need for them to cast votes. Most states allowed unmarried (white, landowning) women to vote in the founding era, and New Jersey actually allowed all women to vote for about a decade or so. So, the idea that this new group of voters would end up voting like some other group in the same house doesn’t quite fit.

It is an interesting question as to what age one gets the right to vote. It used to be 21 because that was the age of majority. Then we lowered it to 18 because the age of majority was slowly lowered. At 18 you can be drafted, you can enter into contracts (most contracts involving a minor are voidable), you can vote, you can get married without anyone’s permission. But you can’t buy a beer, and in California (and I believe Hawaii), you can’t have a smoke either. To make matters even more complicated, we occasionally choose to try minors as adults. Many states also have the age of consent set below 18. Quite honestly, even though we tend to think of 18 as a line of demarcation between minor and adult, our laws don’t really reflect that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:14:36pm
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danarchy  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:18:49pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

He’s a US citizen Lindsay and you as a lawyer should know be better then that instead of pandering to the idiots who hate you anyhow.

Depending on when he was naturalized his citizenship could be revoked. I think someone said he was naturalized in 2011 so he may be on the cusp of the 5 years. I mean, he still shouldn’t be packed off to gitmo, but I would have no problem stripping him of his citizenship if this applies.

uscis.gov

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization.​ [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the ​United States​.​ [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.​

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:20:30pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:24:11pm

i just got a weird notice on my twitter page - I did not change my email.

When I go the the confirmation email they sent I get the twitter error page.

You still need to confirm your email change. A confirmation email was sent to (my email) Your email will not be changed until you complete this step!
Resend confirmation Cancel or update this email address

ugh!

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Weaselone  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:24:41pm

re: #330 Shiplord Kirel

There is no National Pressure Cooker Association so it could happen……

Just attach the pressure cooker to a firearm and you should have no problem.

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petesh  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:24:54pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

/did somebody say ‘wuss’?

Hey, jogging ain’t for sissies. I was in the woods on Saturday and encountered a passive-aggressive tree root. Result: 12 stitches in my face, various scrapes and contusions, and a new pair of glasses coming up. I’m fine, really, you just dont want to see my face for the next week or two. (Also, I am thankful that I am healthy enough to have these problems!)

BTW the two dogs with me (a Jack Russell & a Russell/Beagle mix) were great: stopped and waited quietly, and gently escorted me back down to the car. Urgent care was also excellent, coming in as I did before the Saturday night rush. The sky is blue, the sun is shining, and Hillary is winning.

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allegro  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:25:07pm

re: #329 Big Beautiful Door

Obviously unlike guns, pressure cookers should be registered and owners licensed./

I surmise that there have been a LOT more murders by cast iron skillets than pressure cookers.

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Skip Intro  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:25:17pm

re: #337 Charles Johnson

Trump wants this.

Something to Think About When It Comes to Trump and Internment Camps

With the right Congress and Supreme Court justices, he’ll get it too.

esquire.com

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:26:50pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:28:04pm

re: #341 allegro

I surmise that there have been a LOT more murders by cast iron skillets than pressure cookers.

Just in Eating Raoul alone.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:30:02pm

re: #338 Stanley Sea

i just got a weird notice on my twitter page - I did not change my email.

When I go the the confirmation email they sent I get the twitter error page.

ugh!

Phishing? Change your password.

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allegro  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:30:27pm

re: #344 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just in Eating Raoul alone.

Also the funny little guy in Boston Legal who became a frying pan serial killer.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:30:55pm

re: #33 KGxvi

According to the NYT:

I’ve yet to see anything on when he was naturalized or when he came to the US. We’ve seen a lot of these cases of “he went there and became radicalized” and it makes me wonder what happens on those trips.

Probably the same thing that happens when someone like Dylann Roof (Charleston S. Carolina killer of 8) goes online or bumps into white supremacists and listens to them. It seems to me they are lost people looking for identity and making themselves someone to be dealt with rather than the loser they may see themselves as prior to the change.

I think it is a mistake to think it takes some magic or special place or people to make the change. They are seeking change and they will find it wherever they can. Sometimes in the deep dark pockets of their own minds as in mental illness.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:33:21pm

When you use our LGF Connect popup dialog to post tweets, or when you post an LGF Page and a tweet is automatically sent out, images in your tweet no longer count toward the 140-character limit. Effectively this means you now have at least 24 more characters for text. Since you can include up to four images in a tweet it could give you up to 96 extra characters to work with.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:33:43pm

re: #340 petesh

Hey, jogging ain’t for sissies. I was in the woods on Saturday and encountered a passive-aggressive tree root. Result: 12 stitches in my face, various scrapes and contusions, and a new pair of glasses coming up. I’m fine, really, you just dont want to see my face for the next week or two. (Also, I am thankful that I am healthy enough to have these problems!)

BTW the two dogs with me (a Jack Russell & a Russell/Beagle mix) were great: stopped and waited quietly, and gently escorted me back down to the car. Urgent care was also excellent, coming in as I did before the Saturday night rush. The sky is blue, the sun is shining, and Hillary is winning.

That’s part of why I do my running on a track, but the track I use has the passive-aggressive tree root problem. But, as you said, ‘The sky is blue, the sun is shining, and Hillary is winning’, so no problem today.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:34:07pm

re: #345 MsJ

Phishing? Change your password.

It won’t let me.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:38:01pm

Courtesy Gus.

Reply

Twitter news, apply appropriate cautions.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:39:48pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:39:57pm

re: #338 Stanley Sea

i just got a weird notice on my twitter page - I did not change my email.

When I go the the confirmation email they sent I get the twitter error page.

ugh!

Are you 100% sure the confirmation email was legit, i.e. actually from Twitter? I’m a bit suspicious of the error message because, as MsJ said, it could be a phishing attempt. I suppose it’s possible that someone got access your twitter account, changed the password, and tried to change the email addy, so they’re notifying you.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:40:16pm

re: #321 CuriousLurker

What Islamophobia? No such thing!

In the period from 2000-2010 15% of DOJ RLUIPA investigations into land use or institutional religious discrimination involved mosques or Islamic schools. In the past six years the number has risen to 37%. Muslims make up about 1% of the population.

But remember, it’s just the parking/traffic/noise—never discrimination!

See pages 4-6:

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It may be that they are concentrating on the growth of Wahabbi Madras schools and Mosques, which even the NYT has criticized. I’d like to disagree with that, but I really can’t. Our Friends The Saudis don’t love us.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:41:22pm

re: #338 Stanley Sea

i just got a weird notice on my twitter page - I did not change my email.

When I go the the confirmation email they sent I get the twitter error page.

ugh!

Could be a phishing expedition?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:42:39pm

re: #350 Stanley Sea

It won’t let me.

That was fucking creepy. Now the warning banner is gone.

I only got the twitter error page when I tried to verify my email.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:42:46pm

Trump wants to protect the processed food companies from this happening to them==>

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:46:41pm

re: #356 Stanley Sea

That was fucking creepy. Now the warning banner is gone.

I only got the twitter error page when I tried to verify my email.

Ya’ll tell me if you start getting weight loss tweets.

Changed my bank password AGAIN.

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Schweppes7  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:51:27pm

Really depressing story out of Oklahoma of video coming out from yet another unarmed black man killed by police. It will probably not get too much coverage with the craziness of the election and the bombing stuff. Trump of course plans to make sure the police are “less timid” and more prone to profiling and fear….

Link

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:55:54pm

re: #350 Stanley Sea

It won’t let me.

Can you login?

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:56:22pm

re: #359 Schweppes7

Really depressing story out of Oklahoma of video coming out from yet another unarmed black man killed by police. It will probably not get too much coverage with the craziness of the election and the bombing stuff. Trump of course plans to make sure the police are “less timid” and more prone to profiling and fear….

Link

Man, the Tulsa PD is serious about vehicle maintenance!

//

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:56:38pm

re: #359 Schweppes7

It’s getting some coverage on the news aggregators.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:56:48pm

re: #176 Anymouse

Cruz:

People trying to escape from warfare and destruction, screw ‘em.

Another reason why I am neither a conservative nor a Christian.

Well…so far I am only up to 176 in this thread and reading fast to catch up. One good thing so far is I am reading about Cruz…but have not seen an image of his sad sack face.

It has been nice seeing less of his visage since he got Trump-stomped. Hopefully what lies ahead in this thread in not one of those images.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:58:54pm

re: #359 Schweppes7

Really depressing story out of Oklahoma of video coming out from yet another unarmed black man killed by police. It will probably not get too much coverage with the craziness of the election and the bombing stuff. Trump of course plans to make sure the police are “less timid” and more prone to profiling and fear….

Link

I saw that in the news earlier. Fucking horrible.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 4:59:36pm

re: #360 MsJ

Can you login?

yup. all appears normal.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:01:10pm

re: #365 Stanley Sea

yup. all appears normal.

Probably phishing and they fecked up the URL to steal your login.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:02:28pm

re: #354 austin_blue

It may be that they are concentrating on the growth of Wahabbi Madras schools and Mosques, which even the NYT has criticized. I’d like to disagree with that, but I really can’t. Our Friends The Saudis don’t love us.

Who, the DOJ? They’re not investigating the mosques, they’re investigating cities & counties that are discriminating against them.

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danarchy  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:03:50pm

re: #359 Schweppes7

Really depressing story out of Oklahoma of video coming out from yet another unarmed black man killed by police. It will probably not get too much coverage with the craziness of the election and the bombing stuff. Trump of course plans to make sure the police are “less timid” and more prone to profiling and fear….

Link

Yeah the video has already been released, this wapo article has it. No excuse.

washingtonpost.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:04:07pm
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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:06:32pm

re: #367 CuriousLurker

Who, the DOJ? They’re not investigating the mosques, they’re investigating cities & counties that are discriminating against them.

My point. Communities are more likely to oppose a school or mosque with Saudi money. The DOJ does not make the distinction.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:07:05pm

re: #369 The Vicious Babushka

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What do you want to bet that absolutely no-one will be held accountable for this heinous, senseless crime?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:11:02pm
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freetoken  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:12:19pm

re: #372 FormerDirtDart

And a lot of people fall for it.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:12:59pm

re: #370 austin_blue

My point. Communities are more likely to oppose a school or mosque with Saudi money. The DOJ does not make the distinction.

Sorry, I don’t buy that. Most of them don’t have the slightest idea how the mosques are being funded, they only know what they heard from the hate bloggers.

As for “the growth of Wahabbi Madras schools and Mosques” can you please provide a link for that from a credible source? Preferably something recent, like within the last 5 years or so. I’ll be waiting.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:14:52pm

re: #370 austin_blue

My point. Communities are more likely to oppose a school or mosque with Saudi money. The DOJ does not make the distinction.

I fixed it for you.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:16:32pm

re: #370 austin_blue

Most of these people are too ignorant to figure out the difference. They are protesting at every proposed mosque in the US.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:17:01pm

re: #372 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:19:12pm

The GREATEST trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing people he was a Christian.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:20:46pm

re: #357 The Vicious Babushka

Trump wants to protect the processed food companies from this happening to them==>

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This won’t be a concern once the FDA is abolished.

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:21:13pm

re: #9 Anymouse

Meanwhile, loving Christian Scott Lively is still going to face genocide charges.

He’s one of those that make me sympathize with atheists. OTOH, I give great thanks to the God I believe in that he will face human justice as well.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:21:53pm

re: #370 austin_blue

I would add that the uptick started in 2010, which is when Geller started the whole Ground-Zero-Mega-Mosque-of-Terror bullshit and her pal David Yerushalmi started the Sharia scare-mongering.

I’ve done my homework on all this for years. I’m not talking out of my ass.

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:24:43pm

October surprise?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:26:51pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW just saw that her Grandparents’ house, in the middle of nowhere in the Upper Lefthand Corner of PA is for sale. She’s fantasizing about buying it, renting it out to cover the mortgage until we retire, then moving there. I should remind her of this, especially after Saturday night, when neither of us felt like cooking, so we went out for Potstickers, Black Bean Sauce Chow Fun, and Eggplant with Garlic Sauce.

The town where that house is has one of those ‘Asian Cuisine’ places. We ate there once. It was horrible.

Hey, that’s where I live.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:26:51pm

re: #382 Shiplord Kirel

There are enough lefties that still support him that it would make them angry if he were arrested. Is he willing to sacrifice himself for Trump?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:29:33pm

re: #372 FormerDirtDart

We don’t have a Syrian Refugee problem.

We have a Donald trump and his family problem, playing into people’s most basest irrational fears and vile toxic hatred with a carny act that we all know is a fraud, trying to run for the most power position in the free world, so your family can become a ruling Dynasty.

Fuck off, Junior.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:30:28pm

re: #372 FormerDirtDart

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Wow. Wastrel son.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:31:26pm

re: #381 CuriousLurker

I would add that the uptick started in 2010, which is when Geller started the whole Ground-Zero-Mega-Mosque-of-Terror bullshit and her pal David Yerushalmi started the Sharia scare-mongering.

I’ve done my homework on all this for years. I’m not talking out of my ass.

I listened to the Bauer and Rose Show for a few seconds this weekend on the Sirius Patriot Channel. They were pushing Muslim hatred hard, basically calling all Muslims terrorists. it was sickening, and its the message getting pounded into the ears of rightwing media consumers.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:32:02pm

re: #373 freetoken

And a lot of people fall for it.

They know nothing about history and hate.

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scottslemmons  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:32:53pm

re: #372 FormerDirtDart

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If Donald Trump, Jr. had a bowl of Skittles and told you that three of them were going to kill you, then hired all of them to work at his dad’s hotels while you weren’t looking…

Also, I wonder what Skittles thinks about some rich kid with deep, sue-worthy pockets implying that their candy is poison…

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CuriousLurker  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:37:14pm

re: #354 austin_blue

It may be that they are concentrating on the growth of Wahabbi Madras schools and Mosques, which even the NYT has criticized. I’d like to disagree with that, but I really can’t. Our Friends The Saudis don’t love us.

A couple of last little nit-picks, just to annoy you: 1.) It’s Wahhabi with a double “h,” and 2.) madrasa is the Arabic word for “school”—saying “madrasa schools” is redundant. It comes from the root word درس, which has to do with lessons, learning, etc.

Oh, and Madras is a city in India that’s now known as Chennai.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:38:35pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

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Hey, look! The morons are duking it out!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2016 • 5:50:48pm

Nevermind

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petesh  Sep 19, 2016 • 6:23:20pm

re: #349 wrenchwench

That’s part of why I do my running on a track, but the track I use has the passive-aggressive tree root problem. But, as you said, ‘The sky is blue, the sun is shining, and Hillary is winning’, so no problem today.

Went back just now (walking) with the dogs, and they found the spot: damn root was covered with leaves! But a lovely day.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2016 • 9:17:54pm

re: #374 CuriousLurker

Sorry, I don’t buy that. Most of them don’t have the slightest idea how the mosques are being funded, they only know what they heard from the hate bloggers.

As for “the growth of Wahabbi Madras schools and Mosques” can you please provide a link for that from a credible source? Preferably something recent, like within the last 5 years or so. I’ll be waiting.

I have spent the last four hours trying to justify my #370 and I am completely unable to do so. You are absolutely correct. There is no evidence I can find that American bigotry makes any differentiation between any any flavor of Islam.

I will pull my forelock and admit my ignorance to the Dogs above. I was hoping for some balance in my fellow citizens, and it does not exist.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 20, 2016 • 9:21:26am

re: #394 austin_blue

Responded to upstairs. ;-)


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