USA Today Columnist/Blogger Glenn Reynolds Suspended by Twitter for Advocating Murder of Protesters

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Sometimes it still amazes me how extreme and hateful the right wing blogosphere has become. Today’s example: Glenn Reynolds, who has been blogging as “Instapundit” for years, suspended from Twitter for an ugly tweet advocating that motorists should run over protesters.

Reynolds is a tenured law professor at the University of Tennessee and a columnist for USA Today, and we can now expect him to start yelling that he’s being censored by Twitter for being a conservative.

UPDATE at 9/22/16 7:58:33 am by Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 2:24:12am
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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2016 • 2:40:51am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Fry is Shocked!

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 22, 2016 • 2:41:39am

Isn’t Reynolds one of their heroes? His concise (and worthless) blog posts make RWNJ’s special bits all tingly. Never understood his appeal on any level, law prof. or not, he’s a minimalist idiot.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2016 • 2:45:31am

According to at least one wingnut I’ve heard since yesterday, this shooting and the response by the black community means Hillary has totally lost NC and possibly other states. He’s not said it out loud, but I assume his reasoning by this point is that white folks are going to see angry black men on TV, freak out at fear of a black planet, and rush to the polls to support the white guy calling for even more clamping down on black folks.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2016 • 2:55:53am

re: #4 Targetpractice

According to at least one wingnut I’ve heard since yesterday, this shooting and the response by the black community means Hillary has totally lost NC and possibly other states. He’s not said it out loud, but I assume his reasoning by this point is that white folks are going to see angry black men on TV, freak out at fear of a black planet, and rush to the polls to support the white guy calling for even more clamping down on black folks.

Sitting here, trying to see how it’s going to help.

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Anymouse  Sep 22, 2016 • 3:19:04am

twitter.com

Well, he hasn’t been allowed back yet.

In response to Donald Trump saying he takes care of our vets and Gold Star Families (Gold Star Mothers and Families Day is Sunday, September 25):

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2016 • 3:34:42am

re: #5 Decatur Deb

Sitting here, trying to see how it’s going to help.

Well, the only non-racist argument I can assume is that people are going to see these “thugs” out there on the streets and rush to support the “law and order” candidate.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2016 • 3:39:14am

re: #7 Targetpractice

Well, the only non-racist argument I can assume is that people are going to see these “thugs” out there on the streets and rush to support the “law and order” candidate.

Locals are going to have no trouble imagining themselves as the drivers in those cars.

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S'latch  Sep 22, 2016 • 3:55:56am

As a graduate of UT Law, I know Glenn Reynolds as I took a few of his classes. I have no idea why he is such a conservative celebrity. In my opinion, he is a bore. His views are standard conservative egoistic rationalizations. I guess he’s just quicker to spout off and louder about it than the average right-winger. I’m sure he thinks he is hilarious when he suggests running over protesters with motor vehicles. I heard similar stuff in “Torts 101” with Professor Reynolds, from him and UT Law students.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:04:25am

A lot of carping about how a British man caught a record fish, and received death threats for his efforts.

An angler who caught a 70lb 4oz carp which set a new British record has received death threats to him and his family.

Tom Doherty, 33, landed the whopper known as ‘Big Rig’ at RH Fisheries in Shifnal near Telford, Shropshire, on Monday.

But his catch sparked a fierce debate in the angling community, with some saying it is not deserving of the record.

The row centres on claims the fish was “farmed” overseas until it reached its enormous size before being dropped in the British lake.

Traditionalists say the record should be held by a “wild” carp which has spent years growing to its full weight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:08:13am

re: #10 Emptor scriptor Remorse

A lot of carping about how a British man caught a record fish, and received death threats for his efforts.

Don’t fuck with fishermen…they are dead, dead serious about their pastime.

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Anymouse  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:15:02am

democracynow.org

Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! interviewed a Holocaust survivor on Donald Trump, Jr.’s Skittles tweet. Needless to say, he was not impressed by it.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:28:43am

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t fuck with fishermen…they are dead, dead serious about their pastime.

I thought that the story was going to go down the animal rights path.

——- How dare they kill a fish that big and old

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:30:58am

re: #13 Le Lapin Tueur

I thought that the story was going to go down the animal rights path.

——- How dare they kill a fish that big and old

I did too, but the only people in Britain more serious about size than anglers are gardeners…

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BadExampleMan  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:33:25am

My schaden is maximally freuded.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:34:29am

Instaputz will probably get a promotion now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:38:55am

Could not help but note yesterday that the AP Network News as carried by Armed Forces Network here in Europe reported that the shooting victim was armed and made no reference to any conflicting reports on that account.

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Donkey With No Name  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:55:26am

re: #10 Emptor scriptor Remorse

This sounds like the plot of an episode of Midsomer Murders.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:11:00am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:19:29am

I have to say, I would never have thought a presidential campaign would have ever involved discussions of Skittles, much less poisoned ones.

Life is stranger than fiction.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:23:41am

re: #3 Le Lapin Tueur

Isn’t Reynolds one of their heroes? His concise (and worthless) blog posts make RWNJ’s special bits all tingly. Never understood his appeal on any level, law prof. or not, he’s a minimalist idiot.

Way back in the day, getting linked by him led to a massive traffic surge. I was among those who would link to him/get linked by him occasionally when I was more actively blogging.

But when he and the rest of the right wing went off the rails, you began to realize that he got lucky to be picked as a “taste-maker” as it were. All he did online was link to others - conciseness was his thing, which makes his format perfect for twitter.

Of course, the content of those statements he made comes into question, and his employer - the University of Tennessee Law School, should take a far closer look at his online comments and want to see whether they want to be associated with a law professor who advocates engaging in violence and criminal acts against protesters.

It shows the moral and ethical rot inherent in the right wing.

It also shows how institutional racism is perpetuated. You have to protest in very specific and approved fashions, and nothing too upsetting, distracting, or otherwise taxing on the system, because ultimately the system must persist, even if it means that minorities lives are in danger in every single police encounter.

We’ve seen in the past week alone how cops have killed an unarmed motorist whose car broke down and lied about it (they claimed the driver didn’t have hands up and wasn’t following police instructions when the video clearly shows he did). That’s only the most recent example as the past several years have seen a never-ending litany of people killed by cops under suspicious circumstances and the cops invariably aren’t held accountable for their actions, while the victims are dragged through the mud and can’t defend themselves.

Many of these people criticizing the protesters (including those protesting under the BLM movement) are the same people who demand the unfettered right to bear arms and to take up arms against tyrannical government. Yet, black people who are carrying guns are even more likely to be shot and killed (see Tamir Rice playing with a toy gun in an open carry state, or John Crawford who also carried a bb gun in a store in an open carry state). Black drivers pulled over for minor traffic infractions are more likely to be shot or killed (or otherwise harassed by cops and fined for traffic infractions )because racial profiling means that they’re disproportionately pulled over. Jurisdictions fund their govt services out of these fines, which means that they’ve got an institutional bias to continue operating as they currently do - treating minorities as a piggy bank. This, in turn, continues the cycle of poverty as minorities can’t get out of their situation because they’re constantly harassed for paying fines, dealing with the courts, and getting jailed when they can’t pay in a timely fashion (and because they’re losing work time fighting tickets).

While the situation in the Greater STL area is where this cycle of institutional racism is more well known, it continues and persists across the nation.

It has to stop.

And Reynolds and other right wingers are fighting to preserve the system as it is.

In effect, Reynolds and the right wing are actively fighting against the equal rights and protections for minorities. It’s his white privilege in action.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:27:46am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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I hope Univ of Tennessee is being called on to suspend Reynolds for this blatant advocacy of violence against protesters.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:31:20am

If a liberal made such a remark as instaputz, the MSM and GOP would be demanding his termination of employment. It would be a drudge headline with sirens and then become part of the national narrative.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:32:33am

re: #20 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I have to say, I would never have thought a presidential campaign would have ever involved discussions of Skittles, much less poisoned ones.

Life is stranger than fiction.

Because all the time we spend squabbling over a candy-based metaphor distracts us from discussing how and why Donald Trump is not in the least qualified for the office of Chief Executive.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:33:41am

re: #23 Dr. Matt

I just emailed U of Tennessee to ask what it plans to do to Reynolds for advocating violence. Dying for a response.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:33:55am

re: #23 Dr. Matt

If a liberal made such a remark as instaputz, the MSM and GOP would be demanding his termination of employment. It would be a drudge headline with sirens and then become part of the national narrative.

Naw, the right wingers are calling out twitter for double standards that supposedly BLM and liberals are getting away with calls to violence and aren’t being suspended from Twitter the way Reynolds was.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:35:23am

re: #21 lawhawk

Reynolds undoubtedly lives in a hermetically sealed bubble of white-ness, with perhaps a few middle class AA people on the periphery. Consciously or not, he’s walled himself off from the reality of the less fortunate economically and educationally, especially from the reality of living as a POC in mostly white America. Like a lot of other Republicans, he figures since his life is pretty good, everybody’s life is pretty good, and if it isn’t, it’s their fault, as sinners or failures or deadbeats — whatever.

I’m a white-haired white man. I don’t need to worry about being shot by a police officer for a routine traffic stop, or being denied something because of my skin color. But I acutely understand how tough it would be if I had been born with a different skin tone.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:37:33am

re: #25 Patricia Kayden

I just emailed U of Tennessee to ask what it plans to do to Reynolds for advocating violence. Dying for a response.

It’s Tennessee.

“Stand your accelerator.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:38:25am

re: #27 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m a white-haired white man. I don’t need to worry about being shot by a police officer for a routine traffic stop, or being denied something because of my skin color. But I acutely understand how tough it would be if I had been born with a different skin tone.

There are lots of them out there who would insist that they do not discriminate based on skin color or ethnicity, but fail to appreciate the history of discrimination in this country and how it is still institutionally established.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:40:36am

re: #27 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What you have is called…. empathy.

It’s something that the GOP lacks. We see it with Trump. We see it with their so called intellectuals.

I’m a white guy, but I see the injustices and speak out about them. I also see what happens when you demonize a community for the acts of a handful - the way that the GOP wants to go after Muslims. It’s the same exact way people with this mindset did before WWII - dooming Jews attempting to flee the Nazis.

The language and rhetoric is the same (all you have to do is substitute Jew for Muslim in all those statements, and you see why Holocaust survivors are worried about what a Trump presidency would lead to).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:40:41am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because all the time we spend squabbling over a candy-based metaphor distracts us from discussing how and why Donald Trump is not in the least qualified for the office of Chief Executive.

Smoke and mirrors, as Charles said the other day. Trump has absolutely nothing substantive to run on. He’s created a big straw man (a failing, not great America) and a bunch of assertions that he’ll make everything better is about an hour of taking office. Then, layer on top of that shit his racism, sexism, shady business deals, contempt for his partners, lenders and workers, tax evasion, draft dodging, — need I go on? In any sane world, his candidacy would have been laughed off the stage before he ever made to the convention.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:41:57am

Off to the Land of Low Connectivity for a few days.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:42:22am

Baby Whiplash is all butthurt about Instapundit’s Twitter banishment. HURR HURR IT TEH LEFTIST COMMUNISM COMING TA GETCHA!!!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:42:37am

re: #26 lawhawk

Twitter is a private business. It has a right to decide who it wants to use its platform. I thought Rightwingers respected the rights of businesses to serve who they want.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:43:59am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

They should do that. Then they could be as racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic as their heart desires. They don’t have a right to push that crap on someone else’s platform.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:45:14am

re: #30 lawhawk

What you have is called…. empathy.

It’s something that the GOP lacks. We see it with Trump. We see it with their so called intellectuals.

I’m a white guy, but I see the injustices and speak out about them. I also see what happens when you demonize a community for the acts of a handful - the way that the GOP wants to go after Muslims. It’s the same exact way people with this mindset did before WWII - dooming Jews attempting to flee the Nazis.

The language and rhetoric is the same (all you have to do is substitute Jew for Muslim in all those statements, and you see why Holocaust survivors are worried about what a Trump presidency would lead to).

My parents taught me empathy, I guess. It wasn’t from going to church, since we never did. My mom lived in foster homes till she was 16. Both her parents were immigrants. My dad’s mom was an immigrant. So, I get really pissed when people suggest we should tell immigrants to stay out, because reasons.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:45:21am

Trump now claims he meant applying stop and frisk to Chicago - not nationwide.

That’s a load of BS. His prior statement contained no caveats or limitations.

And beyond that, we know that stop and frisk is not effective at reducing crime. NYC, where stop and frisk was used and claimed to be a major force in reducing crime rates was ended after a court order. Crime rates continued dropping after the policy ended.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:46:08am

Pie in the face? Get a beat down

Multiple sources have confirmed that Sacramento Mayor, former NBA star, and UC Berkeley standout Kevin Johnson was hit in the face with a pie tonight at a farm-to-table dinner event — then he tackled and assaulted the protester in a “bloody” brawl.

After this, the protester reportedly said something to Johnson. This prompted the mayor to allegedly tackle the protester and punch him in the face “repeatedly,” more than half a dozen times, landing “five to 10” blows.

One witness described it as a “bloody pulp.” Other witnesses say that the pie-thrower was hit multiple times in the face and will definitely need stitches, and that there was visible blood.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:47:12am

re: #31 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In any sane world, his candidacy would have been laughed off the stage before he ever made to the convention.

Our media are set up to present a race between two candidates of comparable merit but differing viewpoints and policies.

That is not the case here, and if the media tried to be objective in comparing the two candidates, there would be no race to report on, just a ten-point blowout.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:48:44am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash is all butthurt about Instapundit’s Twitter banishment. HURR HURR IT TEH LEFTIST COMMUNISM COMING TA GETCHA!!!!!

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And again with the ‘conservatives will start their own social media’ bit.

They’ve tried at least a couple of time and failed. You can’t build social media if you have no clue about how to be social.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:49:17am

re: #37 lawhawk

Typical Trump. I said this but meant that. Can be an effective tactic.

Context is not his friend, and journalists who use it are his enemies.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:51:09am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:56:38am

re: #10 Emptor scriptor Remorse

A lot of carping about how a British man caught a record fish, and received death threats for his efforts.

See, the Brits show some discretion when issuing death threats. Our alt-boys here only do it with black protesters and athletes who won’t stand for the national anthem.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:57:53am
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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:59:50am

re: #44 Dr. Matt

If only the uppity black man didn’t become president, we wouldn’t be exposed as racist asshats we’ve always been. /what she meant to say (I speak Jive).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:00:30am

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Obama also caused 9/11, or at the very least was not in the Oval Office on that fateful when he should have been. I learned that today from a Trump supporter.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:02:21am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:02:36am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:05:34am

re: #45 lawhawk

If only the uppity black man didn’t become president, we wouldn’t be exposed as racist asshats we’ve always been. /what she meant to say (I speak Jive).

Obama’s election would have been an excellent opportunity for conservatives like Kathy Miller to stress that anyone who works hard and applies themselves can make it to the top, regardless of race.

But that would have meant acknowledging Obama’s accomplishments, even begrudgingly. Instead they continued to insist that he was Kenyan, Muslim, an affirmative-action free-rider, and had stolen the election through voter fraud or bought it with promises of Free Government Stuff.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:05:36am

re: #47 lawhawk

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“against peaceful protestors “

He equivocates.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:07:36am

re: #40 makeitstop

And again with the ‘conservatives will start their own social media’ bit.

They’ve tried at least a couple of time and failed. You can’t build social media if you have no clue about how to be social.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:09:18am

re: #40 makeitstop

And again with the ‘conservatives will start their own social media’ bit.

They’ve tried at least a couple of time and failed. You can’t build social media if you have no clue about how to be social.

Remember their attempts at “conservative” satirical news shows?

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:09:29am

re: #47 lawhawk

Even though the protesters are trespassing, you should never freaking ever advocate violence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:10:19am

re: #53 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Even though the protesters are trespassing, you should never freaking ever advocate violence.

Hey, trespassing is a capital offence where I come from!

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:14:41am

Poor whiney, deplorable wingnuts

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:14:54am

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Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:15:16am

So here is Trump’s Magical Plan To Stop Crime. Are the “2nd Amendment” Folks down with this? Of course they are, because he’s only taking guns away from Black People!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:17:56am

re: #57 The Vicious Babushka

So here is Trump’s Magical Plan To Stop Crime. Are the “2nd Amendment” Folks down with this? Of course they are, because he’s only taking guns away from Black People!

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A distillation of that needs to get onto the Threeper/nutcase blogs.

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:18:09am

Hillary wants to take away your guns!

Which is a lie but…..

Trump is proposing a policy of literally stopping people at random and taking away their guns and they are fine with that.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:22:25am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember their attempts at “conservative” satirical news shows?

Or the conservative Facebook - Reaganbook? LOL.

The domain name is for sale, BTW. For only $3895!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:22:48am

re: #59 b.d.

Hillary wants to take away your guns!

Which is a lie but…..

Trump is proposing a policy of literally stopping people at random and taking away their guns and they are fine with that.

Because only white people are citizens. //

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Great White Snark  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:25:07am

re: #10 Emptor scriptor Remorse

A lot of carping about how a British man caught a record fish, and received death threats for his efforts.

Whole thing seems way out of scale.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:25:23am

re: #59 b.d.

Trump’s policing strategy is basically establishing a police state - one that deports illegal aliens and also takes away the guns of minorities (because stop and frisk is disproportionately targeting minorities as a matter of policy and tactics). It’s one that directs the police state at those who are minorities.

The very underpinnings of his policy view is racist.

It’s not a surprise that white supremacists and neo Nazis love what Trump says. They’d be getting what they want.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:25:46am

GAH!!! That picture. Almost had a hemorrhage.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:26:00am

Seems to me that many conservatives like Reynolds have a big problem with other people expressing their free speech. I’ve seem many conservatives suggest that people should be able to remove protesters. There’s that conservative love of freedom.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:26:33am

DO IT. LEAVE NOW.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:26:43am

Only a month and a half more of this.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:27:16am

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

DO IT. LEAVE NOW.

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What’s stopping you Kristin? Fucking drama queen right wing loser.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:27:46am

re: #10 Emptor scriptor Remorse

A lot of carping about how a British man caught a record fish, and received death threats for his efforts.

I see what you did there.

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scottslemmons  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:28:17am

Not sure about the logistics of firing a tenured professor. On one hand, he’s been obliquely encouraging violence against non-whites for years, and Tennessee should be embarrassed they ever let that slip by them before they awarded him tenure. On the other hand, are you even allowed to fire a tenured professor for anything aside from being accused/convicted of a crime? (I really don’t know the answer to that.)

Of course, he doesn’t have tenure at USA Today, and he should definitely lose his job there. Not sure he will, because USA Today strikes me as an outfit that is really happy with having a racist asshat like Reynolds on staff…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:28:24am

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

If @instapundit is banned from Twitter we’re gone too. Enough from this piece of crap platform.
— Progressives Today

Bwwwwwwawaaaaaaaahahahhahahaha

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:28:28am

re: #62 Great White Snark

Whole thing seems way out of scale.

Yeah, the grounds for the threats seem pretty fin.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:29:13am

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

Drama Llamas gotta drama.

They can’t leave twitter because they know their views would go into the toilet where it rightfully belongs.

They just want the unfettered right to say anything that comes to their bigoted brains and want a consequence free zone.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:30:24am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Seems to me that many conservatives like Reynolds have a big problem with other people expressing their free speech. I’ve seem many conservatives suggest that people should be able to remove protesters. There’s that conservative love of freedom.

And then I said, I said, ‘Why don’t the Blackies and the Leftists protest peacefully?’, I said, and then, but then Kaepernick kneeled in protest and I slammed my fist on the table and said ‘I will not stand for this uppitiness!’

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:33:10am

re: #72 makeitstop

Yeah, the grounds for the threats seem pretty fin.

Those idiots can just blow it out their bass.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:33:12am

re: #74 Sir John Barron

And then I said, I said, ‘Why don’t the Blackies and the Leftists protest peacefully?’, I said, and then, but then Kaepernick kneeled in protest and I slammed my fist on the table and said ‘I will not stand for this uppitiness!’

Pretty much. African-Americans can’t win with these fuckers. They show anger and it’s “proof” that the BLM movement is racist. Kneel for the national anthem and they get accused of disrespecting the military. I’m just so sick of it and it’s even more frustrating seeing a good friend parrot that bullshit. He doesn’t even frigging watch football.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:35:30am

“Creepy clowns” everywhere but not a shred of hard evidence in an age where everyone has a camera phone:
Reports of creepy clowns spread in Southwest Va.

The other day, the Annapolis, Maryland Police Department admitted that a bunch of kids had made up their story about a creepy clown.

As I said the other day, obvious moral panic is obvious.

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:35:57am

Interesting social statement made in rioting in Charlotte NC last night. Just a bit symbolic, wouldn’t you say? As a race fan and also having a bit of dealings with both NASCAR (Familiar with their Diversity Program) and the NASCAR Hall of Fame (Did some graphics) I find this a very interesting statement.

Jalopnik - NASCAR Hall Of Fame Trashed As Charlotte Protests Turn Violent

Protests in downtown Charlotte, North Carolina over the death of Keith Lamont Scott at the hands of police turned violent this evening, with several businesses including the NASCAR Hall of Fame reportedly being looted in the process. Scott was a father of seven who was shot and killed in a confrontation with officers on Tuesday.

Charlotte Observer reporter Katie Peralta took this shot of the NASCAR Hall of Fame with a signpost thrown through one window after tweeting that it, the Westin and a Buffalo Wild Wings had been looted.

NASCAR Plaza, which houses both the Hall of Fame as well as the Charlotte Observer’s offices, remains in lockdown until further notice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:36:48am

re: #57 The Vicious Babushka

Trump: “They will stop, they will frisk, and they will take the gun away and they won’t have anything to shoot with.”

Shout it from the mountaintops:

TRUMP ADVOCATES GUN CONFISCATION!!!

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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:37:35am

My favorite quote so far this morning from Anne Laurie at BJ:

Okay, it’s nut-picking. But one begins to suspect there’s some pattern as to why potential Trump voters haven’t been susceptible to arguments from logic…

I mean, I know the scientific reason why my little dogs want to eat turds, but there’s no way I can look at the cat box and think to myself, now there is a tempting snack display. When I look at Donald Trump, I cannot imagine what it feels like to think yeah, this is a guy who belongs in the Oval Office.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:37:52am

re: #62 Great White Snark

Whole thing seems way out of scale.

Why? He was clearly gill-tea!

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:38:08am

FYI……

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:38:14am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Shout it from the mountaintops:

TRUMP ADVOCATES GUN CONFISCATION!!!

Yeah but it’s not their guns that will be taken away during stop and frisk. Kind of like how gun nuts love Reagan even though Reagan’s record on guns was actually much more restrictive than Obama’s but Reagan made them feel better about being bigots and Obama actually calls them out on it.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:38:26am

re: #75 Eventual Carrion

Those idiots can just blow it out their bass.

Waiting for the inevitable ‘halibut’ pun…

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:39:54am

I am not familiar with the latest buzzwords, what exactly is meant by a “teachable moment”? Is it code for “we’re not going to do anything”?

Middle school students on a Montgomery County school bus loudly engaged in a chant that used a racial slur, and the video that captured that moment was widely shared on social media.

Now the principal of Robert Frost Middle School in Rockville, Maryland, has sent a letter home to parents saying the episode will be a “teachable moment” for the school community.

According to the letter from Joey Jones, the school’s principal, the incident took place Tuesday afternoon and an unknown number of students broke into a chant that, as Jones put it, “included the N-word.” In the video, students can be heard chanting, “One, two, three, four, how many n- are in my store?”

wtop.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:41:48am

re: #85 Timothy Watson

I am not familiar with the latest buzzwords, what exactly is meant by a “teachable moment”? Is it code for “we’re not going to do anything”?

wtop.com

Surprising to see that from Montgomery County.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:42:18am

re: #80 stpaulbear

My favorite quote so far this morning from Anne Laurie at BJ:

…When I look at Donald Trump, I cannot imagine what it feels like to think yeah, this is a guy who belongs in the Oval Office.

There are people who despise politics as usual and politicians. They hate the GOP nearly as much as they hate the Democrats and are voting DT to spite them both.

The only DT supporters I can begin to understand are the ones who insist that our entire system is going to collapse anyways, why not expedite the process by electing Trump so we can hit bottom faster and commence the process of recovery.

I do not agree with them, but at least that viewpoint is based on a realistic assessment of his capabilities.

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:42:28am

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

I hope Univ of Tennessee is being called on to suspend Reynolds for this blatant advocacy of violence against protesters.

Now if he would have said he would want to run over some football fans for being in the street rioting after defeating Alabama…

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:43:07am

While there’s quite a bit of attention on Gov. Christie and Bridgegate trial proceedings, his buddy across the Hudson has a major scandal of his own.

Several of his top officials have been indicted, as has the head of one of the SUNY Schools (formerly part of my alma mater):

Longtime confidante to Gov. Andrew Cuomo Joseph Percoco, SUNY Polytechnic Institute Founding President and CEO Alain Kaloyeros and prominent Buffalo developer Louis Ciminelli are among eight people named in a 12-count criminal complaint leveled by U.S. Attorney for the Southern District Preet Bharara’s office Thursday morning.

The 80-page complaint is below. Bharara is to hold a press conference on the charges at noon.

Percoco and others are alleged to have engaged in two overlapping schemes involving bribery, corruption and fraud in the award of hundreds of millions of dollars in state contracts and other state benefits, according to the complaint.

The complaint alleges that Percoco used his official position as executive deputy secretary to the governor from January 2012 until 2014 and then again in 2015 to seek bribes from executives at companies with business before the state. Those bribes at times came through a third party intermediary and bank accounts and a shell company set up by Todd Howe, a longtime lobbyist who first met both Percoco and Cuomo while working for Cuomo’s father, Mario, during his time as governor in the 1980s. The complaint alleges that Howe arranged for more than $315,000 in bribe payments to go to Percoco and his wife, Lisa Toscano-Percoco, who is not named in the complaint.

Some of these charges relate to Cuomo’s “Buffalo Billion” plan, to expand job opportunities in the region and affects high tech companies doing business with the state by and through SUNY Polytech, which was previously part of SUNY Albany. Alain Kaloyeros created his own fiefdom in establishing the nanotech center there, and he’s been able to throw his weight around. Now we can see how he managed that trick.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:44:34am

BTW, Lawhawk and Darthstar (via Twitter) both made a Jim Wright Facebook post yesterday. You guys are now famous!

Facebook Post

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:45:00am

re: #84 makeitstop

Waiting for the inevitable ‘halibut’ pun…

See, now you’re just doing it on porpoise.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:45:33am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why? He was clearly gill-tea!

They want to put him on a pike. That’s just crappie.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:45:41am

re: #90 makeitstop

Nice. Not god damned frank level awareness, but still nice :)

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:47:11am

re: #92 Eventual Carrion

They want to put him on a pike. That’s just crappie.

This is an honest-to-God headline from several years ago in my local newspaper, The Caroline Progress:

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:47:45am

re: #85 Timothy Watson

I am not familiar with the latest buzzwords, what exactly is meant by a “teachable moment”? Is it code for “we’re not going to do anything”?

wtop.com

‘Teachable moment’ normally means that:
1. The kids directly involved will not be punished, but
2. There will be one or more presentations at the school, either by individual teachers, or having all students together, where they talk about the issue.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:54:24am

re: #96 lawhawk

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Exactly. Reynolds isn’t being arrested or fined. Twitter, a private entity is just telling him that he’s not welcome on their platform anymore. Tough shit. I’d think someone with his legal background would get the difference. But nooooo he’s yet another conservative asshole who thinks he can be a hateful little shit with no consequences at all.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:54:42am

re: #89 lawhawk

There has been rumblings about Cuomo’s taste of New York and the shenanigans going on with hiding the true cost. They are converting an old rest area up here on I-90 near Albany and the job was shut down because someone decided that the building was too far away from the road, so they doubled the size of the building.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:56:14am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Reynolds isn’t being arrested or fined. Twitter, a private entity is just telling him that he’s not welcome on their platform anymore. Tough shit. I’d think someone with his legal background would get the difference. But nooooo he’s yet another conservative asshole who thinks he can be a hateful little shit with no consequences at all.

But we have to let blacks buy guns and get gay all over our cake business!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:57:13am

re: #99 Belafon

But we have to let blacks buy guns and get gay all over our cake business!

We also have to let Muslims be able to worship!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:59:10am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

We also have to let Muslims be able to worship!

and pay for sluts to get contraceptives!

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:59:55am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash is all butthurt about Instapundit’s Twitter banishment. HURR HURR IT TEH LEFTIST COMMUNISM COMING TA GETCHA!!!!!

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Go on ahead Benny…create a pure conservative Twitter alternative…that is how business works in America.

I bet it won’t be anywhere near as successful. Why, because it would have no fun factor? Zero. It would be a huge echo chamber of grumbling assholes. No fun in that after about a year. But do it! Twitter would love it, because you assholes would also stay on Twitter so you can be outraged and have something to bitch about in your echo chamber.

Hmm. Wouldn’t that be like the alternative site with ex-Lizards? I went there once after I learned there was one. Yep…no fun.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:00:24am

Missed this bit from yesterday’s Don King appearances at Trump events:

Know who Trump isn’t fooling? Jews.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:02:18am

re: #103 lawhawk

Missed this bit from yesterday’s Don King appearances at Trump events:

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Know who Trump isn’t fooling? Jews.

I’m not Jewish but the way Republicans and right wingers talk down and insult the Jewish-American community really pisses me off. They think they can just use Israel and have Jewish-American ignore the fact that Trump has tied himself to some very very hateful pricks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:02:41am

re: #103 lawhawk

Missed this bit from yesterday’s Don King appearances at Trump events:

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Know who Trump isn’t fooling? Jews.

He is fooling some. I personally know some idiot Juice who are voting for Trump because HURR HURR IVANKA & JARED

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austin_blue  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:03:15am

re: #10 Emptor scriptor Remorse

A lot of carping about how a British man caught a record fish, and received death threats for his efforts.

So, basically, he caught a giant goldfish? Koi, is he in trouble!

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:07:04am

re: #27 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Reynolds undoubtedly lives in a hermetically sealed bubble of white-ness, with perhaps a few middle class AA people on the periphery. Consciously or not, he’s walled himself off from the reality of the less fortunate economically and educationally, especially from the reality of living as a POC in mostly white America. Like a lot of other Republicans, he figures since his life is pretty good, everybody’s life is pretty good, and if it isn’t, it’s their fault, as sinners or failures or deadbeats — whatever.

I’m a white-haired white man. I don’t need to worry about being shot by a police officer for a routine traffic stop, or being denied something because of my skin color. But I acutely understand how tough it would be if I had been born with a different skin tone.

This is exactly true. I read Instapundit for years In the early 2000’s, and he was often Not Nice. After Katrina, this was especially pronounced.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:07:59am
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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:08:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:09:23am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

I’m not Jewish but the way Republicans and right wingers talk down and insult the Jewish-American community really pisses me off. They think they can just use Israel and have Jewish-American ignore the fact that Trump has tied himself to some very very hateful pricks.

Remember, a lot of the Far Right has no love for Jews, they just need a resurgent Israel (with Jerusalem as its capital) in order to fulfill their End Times prophecies.

Some sick, sick shit when you consider it closely.

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:10:09am

re: #73 lawhawk

Drama Llamas gotta drama.

They can’t leave twitter because they know their views would go into the toilet where it rightfully belongs.

They just want the unfettered right to say anything that comes to their bigoted brains and want a consequence free zone.

And, with not a hint of irony, announce their intention to abandon Twitter on Twitter.

(Maybe they should buy some paid Twitter advertising to announce that they’re leaving Twitter. That’ll show those leftists something, something.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:10:47am

re: #109 lawhawk

Strange Twitter circumstance: Twitter is telling @Instapundit that he can have his acct restored if he deletes “run them down” tweet.

Don’t back down IP, show them you’re better than fascist Twitter!

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:12:23am

Trump’s Ohio campaign chair said this (Daily Kos link):

“If you’re black and you haven’t been successful in the last 50 years, it’s your own fault. You’ve had every opportunity, it was given to you,” she said.

“You’ve had the same schools everybody else went to. You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn’t have. You had all the advantages and didn’t take advantage of it. It’s not our fault, certainly.”

Every “non-racist” racist Republican I know right there.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:16:07am

Trump demands more from volunteers than he’s willing to provide about his tax returns.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:16:11am

re: #113 Belafon

There is so much wrong there, it would need an essay.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:17:02am

Instapundit was my introduction to political blogging/news on the Internet, way back in early 2001. It was a great source of information during and after the 9/11 attacks, when other sites were not able to keep up with the traffic.

I stuck around for years, and I’m sure my worldview was greatly influenced by the kinds of opinion and discussion held there. I used to respect Glenn, and even though I didn’t agree with him on some topics (specifically 2A stuff and abortion), he always came across as sincere, thoughtful, and not batshit crazy.

That changed a few years later, and he became completely unreadable. I would imagine that his decline into RWNJ territory coincides with Charles’s break from the right, but I wasn’t paying much attention to the “blogosphere” or political news at the time, so I can’t be sure.

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:18:16am

re: #96 lawhawk

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Probably time to fire up the TGDN again (is that still a thing now that Todd Kincannon has fallen off the radar?)
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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:19:42am

Super.

This is the train line the Mrs. and I take daily.

Service suspended until further notice.

A suspicious package was seen under a bench at the station. Bomb squad called out to investigate.

UPDATE:
Service has been restored, with 60 minute delays:

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:20:39am

Instapundit has been reinstated.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:20:39am

re: #114 lawhawk

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Trump demands more from volunteers than he’s willing to provide about his tax returns.

Geez, I just tweeted with the regional coordinator and showed up at the local office to volunteer with the Hillary Clinton campaign.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:20:58am

Speaking of Twitter, it’s the defendant in a class action lawsuit.

The complaint alleges that during the Class Period, the Company made materially false and/or misleading statements and/or failed to disclose: (1) that by early 2015, Twitter’s daily active users (DAUs) had switched the timeline views metric as the main user engagement metric which is tracked internally by Twitter management; (2) that the trend in user engagement growth was lessening; (3) that new product initiatives were not having a significant impact on monthly active users (MAUs) or user engagement; (4) that Twitter stated “acceleration” was the result of low-quality monthly active user growth; (5) and that Twitter lacked a basis for its previously disclosed estimates of about 20% MAU growth and 550 million MAU in the immediate term.

Basically, some investors are sore that they lost money when they bought $TWTR high and its share price went low.
finance.yahoo.com

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:21:27am

re: #120 Timothy Watson

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:21:40am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Instapundit has been reinstated.

Leftist weenies.
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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:22:16am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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apparently this reynolds guy was not advocating running down protesters. no. he was in fact giving sage advice on how to protect yourself if you and your car are surrounded

you may have forgotten what happens to people, particularly white people, who get their car stopped in the middle of what has become a race riot.

he was performing a public service

yeah

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Lidane  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:22:30am
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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:23:30am

re: #125 Lidane

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which part is huge if true?

that there was no racism
or that an R campaign chair said such a thing

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:24:02am

re: #125 Lidane

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“if true”? Isn’t it on video what she said?

And, honestly, how is this “huge”? It’s the standard rhetoric from Trump and his supporters.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:24:07am

re: #125 Lidane

LOL!! That was classic.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:24:14am

re: #126 dangerman

which part is huge if true?

that there was no racism
or that an R campaign chair said such a thing

Neither. Obamadidit — that’s yooge!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:24:57am

re: #127 Timothy Watson

“if true”? Isn’t it on video what she said?

And, honestly, how is this “huge”? It’s the standard rhetoric from Trump and his supporters.

It’s intended to be sarcastic. “Huge, if true” is a bit of a meme, indicating a “no shit, Sherlock” kind of deal.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:25:06am

re: #126 dangerman

re: #127 Timothy Watson

That was classic Pinelo sarcasm.

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Lidane  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:26:06am

re: #126 dangerman

which part is huge if true?

that there was no racism
or that an R campaign chair said such a thing

Add sarc tags to his post. He’s mocking the Trump chair for declaring that racism didn’t exist before Obama.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:26:13am

re: #125 Lidane

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I have no words for this.

I rarely share political stuff on Facebook, but I might have to with this one. It’s just so mind-numbingly delusional.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:26:20am

re: #125 Lidane

I referenced a Daily Kos diary about it at #113. The quote I included is a blast, and it’s only a small taste.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:26:33am

re: #130 A wild WITHAK appeared!

It’s intended to be sarcastic. “Huge, if true” is a bit of a meme, indicating a “no shit, Sherlock” kind of deal.

Ah, it was a link to the The Guardian so I assumed the worse.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:26:46am

Things we’ve learned this election cycle about Trump voters/supporters:

Obama was behind 9/11 - that’s why he wasn’t in the White House on 9/11.
Obama was the reason people are so damned racist.
Obama was behind the government’s poor Katrina response.
Obama is still a super secret Muslim from Kenya, even if Trump no longer overtly claims he isn’t a US citizen.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:27:45am

re: #130 A wild WITHAK appeared!

It’s intended to be sarcastic. “Huge, if true” is a bit of a meme, indicating a “no shit, Sherlock” kind of deal.

today i learned a thing

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:28:14am

re: #136 lawhawk

Things we’ve learned this election cycle about Trump voters/supporters:

Obama was behind 9/11 - that’s why he wasn’t in the White House on 9/11.
Obama was the reason people are so damned racist.
Obama was behind the government’s poor Katrina response.
Obama is still a super secret Muslim from Kenya, even if Trump no longer overtly claims he isn’t a US citizen.

Implicit in all these accusations is Obama has perfected time travel, and he’s holding out on us.

Or he’s a Time Lord. I’m going with that one.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:28:15am

re: #114 lawhawk

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Trump demands more from volunteers than he’s willing to provide about his tax returns.

Can you imagine if the Clinton campaign required these? Especially the NDA? The media would have a field day.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:29:40am

re: #138 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Implicit in all these accusations is Obama has perfected time travel, and he’s holding out on us.

Or he’s a Time Lord. I’m going with that one.

it could all be a Dallas - level dream

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:29:56am

re: #114 lawhawk

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Trump demands more from volunteers than he’s willing to provide about his tax returns.

The only comforting thing about this is that probably means they have no volunteers.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton’s camp is calling people asking them to just show up somewhere and make calls or knock on doors for a couple hours.

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:30:30am

re: #125 Lidane

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Mahoning County (Ohio). Now you know why Trump has stopped in Youngstown for one of his earlier campaign stops. Actually I think he has been there twice.

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Lidane  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:30:47am

So this happened:

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:30:58am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:31:00am

re: #139 Targetpractice

Can you imagine if the Clinton campaign required these? Especially the NDA? The media would have a field day.

Is a NDA really enforceable, given that elections are inherently a public process required by the Constitution? IOW, if some Trumpista was sued for breaking the NDA, could his or her lawyer argue that an NDA is illegal for an electoral process?

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:31:27am

re: #139 Targetpractice

Can you imagine if the Clinton campaign required these? Especially the NDA? The media would have a field day.

by design, happenstance or whatever, trump has managed to be so outrageous, over the top far and away outside any sense of ‘normal’ that now virtually nothing he says or does matters - or even registers.

certainly not something as mundane as an nda policy

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:33:15am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:33:15am

re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is a NDA really enforceable, given that elections are inherently a public process required by the Constitution? IOW, if some Trumpista was sued for breaking the NDA, could his or her lawyer argue that an NDA is illegal for an electoral process?

Plus the fact that it’s not a contract since there’s no consideration since volunteers aren’t being paid.

(That’s why you often times see a token sum, say $1, in contracts so that they’re at least enforceable.)

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:33:31am

re: #146 dangerman

by design, happenstance or whatever, trump has managed to be so outrageous, over the top far and away outside any sense of ‘normal’ that now virtually nothing he says or does matters - or even registers.

certainly not something as mundane as an nda policy

If we, meaning Democrats, were doing this correctly, we’d be outraged day after day of the idiotic stuff Trump does. But we can’t sustain anger that long because we haven’t spent the last 20 years training.

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:33:38am

re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is a NDA really enforceable, given that elections are inherently a public process required by the Constitution? IOW, if some Trumpista was sued for breaking the NDA, could his or her lawyer argue that an NDA is illegal for an electoral process?

It seems it is both a bullying tactic and a way to confirm a true believer. Anyone that signs that can be counted on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:33:49am

re: #141 Timothy Watson

The only comforting thing about this is that probably means they have no volunteers.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton’s camp is calling people asking them to just show up somewhere and make calls or knock on doors for a couple hours.

They know that if they disclose anything scandalous, they will just disappear and never be heard from again…

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:33:50am

re: #143 Lidane

So this happened:

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and she said she “REALLY REGRETS” doing it
hillary has regrets film at 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:34:51am

re: #148 Timothy Watson

Plus the fact that it’s not a contract since there’s no consideration since volunteers aren’t being paid.

(That’s why you often times see a token sum, say $1, in contracts so that they’re at least enforceable.)

Except that Trump will reneg and only offer then 30 cents.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:35:03am

re: #152 dangerman

and she said she “REALLY REGRETS” doing it
hillary has regrets film at 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

SMOTI: Hillary to drop out of race soon!

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:36:00am

re: #147 lawhawk

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re: #124 dangerman

“he didnt mean it that way”

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:38:02am

re: #149 Belafon

If we, meaning Democrats, were doing this correctly, we’d be outraged day after day of the idiotic stuff Trump does. But we can’t sustain anger that long because we haven’t spent the last 20 years training.

youre right on the endurance aspect and then couple it with the fact that hes just worn everybody down to a state of no-longer-incredulous numb

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:38:30am

re: #147 lawhawk

Twitter restores Instapundit account after he deletes “run them down” tweet talkingpointsmemo.com pic.twitter.com
— Talking Points Memo

Of course….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:39:36am

re: #147 lawhawk

Twitter restores Instapundit account after he deletes “run them down” tweet

I hope that True Conservatives abandon him for caving into Liberal Fascist pressure…

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:40:23am

re: #147 lawhawk

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So I guess that the herd of wingnuts deleted their accounts for no reason then?

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:40:46am

re: #156 dangerman

youre right on the endurance aspect and then couple it with the fact that hes just worn everybody down to a state of no-longer-incredulous numb

I wonder if it also helps/hurts that we don’t have some central authority telling us we should be angry and what we should be angry at.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:40:55am

re: #150 ObserverArt

It seems it is both a bullying tactic and a way to confirm a true believer. Anyone that signs that can be counted on.

theres lots of contracts that arent really enforceable. its a tactic used against little people by big people to scare them.

many poorly written liability releases like before scuba diving, hang gliding, etc, are like that - easily pierced if you had the inclination. but most people figure if they signed it, then its game over.

theres a big business in invalidating the assumed-ironclad prenup

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:41:18am

re: #113 Belafon

Trump’s Ohio campaign chair said this (Daily Kos link):

Every “non-racist” racist Republican I know right there.

I’m shocked out of my mind that this person is….not Black.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:41:23am

re: #114 lawhawk

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I also get a kick out of that super secret password that he’s e-mailing out to everyone.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:41:46am

re: #139 Targetpractice

Can you imagine if the Clinton campaign required these? Especially the NDA? The media would have a field day.

What is she hiding?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:41:50am

re: #159 b.d.

So I guess that the herd of wingnuts deleted their accounts for no reason then?

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What a terrible loss to the culture/community.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:42:40am

re: #143 Lidane

So this happened:

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It’s all over now! WOW!

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:42:58am

re: #164 Eventual Carrion

What is she hiding?

They’ve asked essentially that because campaign staff won’t comment anonymously on stories because they’re worried they might be fired.

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Jayleia  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:43:02am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No…because they were the most forgettable things ever

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:43:20am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Instapundit has been reinstated.

A 12 hour suspension. Wow. How repressive.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:43:56am

re: #157 Sir John Barron

Of course….

Twitter restores Instapundit account after he deletes “run them down” tweet talkingpointsmemo.com pic.twitter.com
— Talking Points Memo

re: #156 dangerman

youre right on the endurance aspect and then couple it with the fact that hes just worn everybody down to a state of no-longer-incredulous numb

in fact now im beginning to wonder if the instapundit wasnt just paraphrasing trumps strategy of wearing us all down

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:45:30am

re: #84 makeitstop

Waiting for the inevitable ‘halibut’ pun…

Wet Dream - Kip Addotta

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Lidane  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:45:50am

How does this hack still have a job?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:46:09am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

A 12 hour suspension. Wow. How repressive.

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You can’t even joke about running those people over anymore…
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Political Correctness run amock!!!!11

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:46:29am

re: #172 Lidane

How does this hack still have a job?

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Got to be “fair and balanced”.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:46:45am

Trump laughing all the way to the bank. His campaign is basically lining his pockets as his businesses profit from deals with the campaign.

Trump’s running a scam on so many levels, and his supporters don’t care.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:47:25am

I had a 24 hour twitter ban once because I friended too many accounts in too short of a time.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:47:28am

re: #170 dangerman

Twitter restores Instapundit account after he deletes “run them down” tweet talkingpointsmemo.com pic.twitter.com
— Talking Points Memo

in fact now im beginning to wonder if the instapundit wasnt just paraphrasing trumps strategy of wearing us all down

Political Correctness, Social Media Speech Police ruining nation!!!!

Kaepernick kneels at anthem.

Outrage! I will not spend my dollars on the NFL until something changes now!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:48:20am

re: #172 Lidane

How does this hack still have a job?

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So is Halperin admitting that the basket of deplorables has been paying attention to the birther lies?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:49:43am

re: #141 Timothy Watson

The only comforting thing about this is that probably means they have no volunteers.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton’s camp is calling people asking them to just show up somewhere and make calls or knock on doors for a couple hours.

Hillary just accepts anybody! Not organized! Sad!

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:51:13am

re: #179 Sir John Barron

Hillary just accepts anybody! Not organized! Sad!

Even self-identified “recovery Republicans”.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:51:39am

re: #175 lawhawk

Trump laughing all the way to the bank. His campaign is basically lining his pockets as his businesses profit from deals with the campaign.

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Trump’s running a scam on so many levels, and his supporters don’t care.

he and ben carson are going to write a book “how you can make a yuge profit while losing a presidentail campaign”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:55:25am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:57:46am

re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is a NDA really enforceable, given that elections are inherently a public process required by the Constitution? IOW, if some Trumpista was sued for breaking the NDA, could his or her lawyer argue that an NDA is illegal for an electoral process?

I would just misspell my name when signing it. ;)

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:57:48am

re: #175 lawhawk

Trump laughing all the way to the bank. His campaign is basically lining his pockets as his businesses profit from deals with the campaign.

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Trump’s running a scam on so many levels, and his supporters don’t care.

I think he summed it up quite nicely the other day and really came right out and told them the whole deal…couldn’t be clearer.

OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY

I grew very familiar with the term when involved in top level auto racing. The whole sport is run on other people’s money. I grew up loving auto racing as a spectator. Then when I got a chance to be on the other side of the fence I really learned a lot. The sport of auto racing is truly dealing with the last of the big industrialist and king makers and their attitudes. Learning a lot more about the likes of Roger Penske and John Menard was a fascinating experience.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:59:43am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Paid for by donations from other people to his “foundation”.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:59:57am

re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is a NDA really enforceable, given that elections are inherently a public process required by the Constitution? IOW, if some Trumpista was sued for breaking the NDA, could his or her lawyer argue that an NDA is illegal for an electoral process?

But an NDA for what? Not to work on another presidential campaign for 2 years?

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:01:59am

re: #186 Dr. Matt

But an NDA for what? Not to work on another presidential campaign for 2 years?

From what I’ve read, it goes a lot farther than that - it’s a lifetime NDA, and any business owners have to promise to keep any employees from working on another campaign.

You really gotta be a gullible dope to sign that thing.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:02:13am

On the Charlotte police shooting. These were back-to-back tweets in my feed:

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:02:25am

re: #182 Charles Johnson

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He’ll be careful about where he advocates anti-Black violence the next time around, I guess.

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Lidane  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:05:16am

re: #187 makeitstop

From what I’ve read, it goes a lot farther than that - it’s a lifetime NDA, and any business owners have to promise to keep any employees from working on another campaign.

You really gotta be a gullible dope to sign that thing.

I don’t see how a lifetime NDA is enforceable unless you have direct access to a trade secret. The people who know the Coca-Cola and Pepsi formulas, for example. Or Google’s source code. Things like that. I can see lifetime NDA’s being valid for them.

Preventing someone from working on any other presidential campaign for life? No wonder so many political agencies ran screaming from Trump. They’d have to go out of business, or otherwise never work in presidential politics again.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:05:46am

re: #188 lawhawk

I have a feeling that if the video upheld the police’s story, they’d release it immediately. I find it hard to believe that any sensible Black man would deliberately provoke police officers by brandishing a gun in their presence.

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LastYearsMan  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:05:56am

re: #143 Lidane

Not a great installment. But that exchange about what Trump might wear to the debate — his red power-tie or his white-power tie — was too funny.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:07:49am

re: #190 Lidane

No wonder so many political agencies ran screaming from Trump. They’d have to go out of business, or otherwise never work in presidential politics again.

They just looked at his record of fulfilling contractual obligations and declined.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:08:10am

re: #187 makeitstop

From what I’ve read, it goes a lot farther than that - it’s a lifetime NDA, and any business owners have to promise to keep any employees from working on another campaign.

You really gotta be a gullible dope to sign that thing.

It’s also a non-disclosure in addition to anti-compete. There was a copy of the agreement floating around awhile back.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:09:58am

re: #187 makeitstop

You really gotta be a gullible dope (i.e., a Trump supporter) to sign that thing.

Slight edit

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:10:49am
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:15:12am

re: #172 Lidane

How does this hack still have a job?

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Well, other than the fact that Charles has a Wikipedia page, I can’t prove any of you are real. And I often question my own existence.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:19:21am

re: #188 lawhawk

On the Charlotte police shooting. These were back-to-back tweets in my feed:

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So…Fox News saw the video that the police aren’t releasing?

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:19:37am

re: #191 Patricia Kayden

I have a feeling that if the video upheld the police’s story, they’d release it immediately. I find it hard to believe that any sensible Black man would deliberately provoke police officers by brandishing a gun in their presence.

I posted last week about a 13 year old kid that allegedly pull a very realistic BB gun out as he was running from the police here in Columbus. It was probably less than a half mile from where I live. Lots of questions about that incident too. The kid seemed to have a decent background, his football coach said he was a good kid, etc. I can’t believe the young man would have tried to pull the fake gun out to attempt to shoot the police. I can believe he may have tried to pull the gun out to toss into the weeds or a yard as he tried to run down the alley. 13. Dead.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:20:58am

re: #196 Charles Johnson

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Kinda curious what InstaPundit’s recommendation was for the Bundy wildlife refuge occupation?

Bomb them out? Probably not.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:21:42am

re: #190 Lidane

I don’t see how a lifetime NDA is enforceable unless you have direct access to a trade secret. The people who know the Coca-Cola and Pepsi formulas, for example. Or Google’s source code. Things like that. I can see lifetime NDA’s being valid for them.

Preventing someone from working on any other presidential campaign for life? No wonder so many political agencies ran screaming from Trump. They’d have to go out of business, or otherwise never work in presidential politics again.

I think Trump is relying on the implied threat of legal action. The fact that he threatens to sue anyone who crosses him raises the possibility that anyone who violates a ridiculous NDA will be sued as well.

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Great White Snark  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:24:04am

Look where we are-Oh and an election with an aspiring tyrant. What Could Possibly Go wrong etc. etc.

Drudge
THUGS OF CHARLOTTE
WHITE MAN DRAGGED, BEATEN BEGGING FOR MERCY

Huffpo
Cop Says He’ll ‘Kill This Motherf****r’ In Video Of Fatal 2011 Shooting
Jason Stockley, no longer on the St. Louis police force, faces a murder charge.

CNN
Tulsa police shooting: 5 discrepancies from Terence Crutcher’s death

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:27:11am

Don’t know if this has been posted yet:

This was on Good Morning America. Is this more evidence that the media is turning on Trump?

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SteelPH  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:27:55am

re: #136 lawhawk

Things we’ve learned this election cycle about Trump voters/supporters:

Obama was behind 9/11 - that’s why he wasn’t in the White House on 9/11.
Obama was the reason people are so damned racist.
Obama was behind the government’s poor Katrina response.
Obama is still a super secret Muslim from Kenya, even if Trump no longer overtly claims he isn’t a US citizen.

Which apparently means that Obama’s been president for 15 years.

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KingKenrod  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:30:46am

re: #190 Lidane

I don’t see how a lifetime NDA is enforceable unless you have direct access to a trade secret. The people who know the Coca-Cola and Pepsi formulas, for example. Or Google’s source code. Things like that. I can see lifetime NDA’s being valid for them.

Preventing someone from working on any other presidential campaign for life? No wonder so many political agencies ran screaming from Trump. They’d have to go out of business, or otherwise never work in presidential politics again.

It may vary by state, but I think contracts won’t be seen by a court as valid unless there’s an exchange of value. Trump couldn’t try to enforce an NDA unless he paid his volunteers, and if he paid them they would be employees, not volunteers.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:32:12am

re: #136 lawhawk

Who knew that Idiocracy was prophetic?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:32:27am

re: #204 SteelPH

Which apparently means that Obama’s been president for 15 years.

SEE WE TOLD YOU HE WAS A TYRANT!1!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:40:35am

re: #196 Charles Johnson

And now he says he’s going to walk away from Twitter.

That gesture notwithstanding, Reynolds is souring on the platform. He says he deleted the “Run them down” tweet “so that I can tweet my response to this affair. But once that’s over, I intend to shut it down. I don’t see why I should provide content to a platform that will shut me down without notice.”

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:42:01am

re: #208 Eric The Fruit Bat

And now he says he’s going to walk away from Twitter.

I’m sure Twitter will be absolutely crushed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:42:50am

re: #206 Patricia Kayden

Who knew that Idiocracy was prophetic?

It is all a matter of time: we will probably stave it off this election cycle, but at some point, there will be a candidate so idiotic and unqualified that nobody can stand up to him/her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:44:17am

re: #208 Eric The Fruit Bat

“… I don’t see why I should provide content to a platform that will shut me down without notice.”

They did give you notice in advance that offensive, racist or threatening comments will get you suspended.

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:45:31am

re: #206 Patricia Kayden

Who knew that Idiocracy was prophetic?

I think the creator may have had a sense that it could be. Creative ideas from artists do not come out of nowhere. They are borne out of seeing the current, mix with the history and then extrapolated into what could happen in the future.

How did 1984, Animal House, Brave New World, The Trial, Clockwork Orange and so many other great writings come about if not through vision of what man is capable of doing before it is done?

I happen to think artists have always been the truth and fortune tellers. Being an artist (and observer…they go hand in hand) has given me a great feel for all the arts.

And that is why I also think arts programs and liberal arts educations are the first to get cut and eliminated. Also why many times artists (writers, fine artists, musicians, etc.) are the first to be gathered up by dictators. They need to shut them up for reasons.

You want to control people…make them do what you want…shut up the artists. And there are many ways that can happen and does. I think we do it in America. The Republicans seem to have an inclination to do it.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:46:30am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They did give you notice in advance that offensive, racist or threatening comments will get you suspended.

Yeah, there’s a TOS, and Twitter rules make clear that by signing up with their service, they have the right to shutter accounts that engage in threats, harassment, etc.

His tweet was a violation of the TOS. Twitter was fully within their rights under their TOS to shut his account down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:46:48am

re: #212 ObserverArt

You want to control people…make them do what you want…shut up the artists. And there are many ways that can happen and does. I think we do it in America. The Republicans seem to have an inclination to do it.

We don’t round them up or shut them down, we just let them starve to death and die in obscurity.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:47:23am

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t fuck with fishermen…they are dead, dead serious about their pastime.

Like too many WoW players, but with fishing poles.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:51:01am

re: #208 Eric The Fruit Bat

And now he says he’s going to walk away from Twitter.

Shut me down without notice!!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:51:58am

re: #216 Sir John Barron

Shut me down without notice!!!!!

Look, it’s perfectly fine to tell people to run over protesters, OK? But to shut. me. down. without. notice. I will not stand for!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:53:22am

re: #202 Great White Snark

Drudge
THUGS OF CHARLOTTE
WHITE MAN DRAGGED, BEATEN BEGGING FOR MERCY

Why is Drudge race-baiting?

Oh, wait, sorry, only The Left does racebaiting, according to Baby Whiplash.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:53:27am

re: #10 Emptor scriptor Remorse

A lot of carping about how a British man caught a record fish, and received death threats for his efforts.

Ok, as someone who has fished lakes with stocked (aka farm raised) trout and fished wild I kinda find myself in the camp of “the record should be for wild”. The reason I say so is some of the stocked (out here we call them pay lakes) stock trout in the 20+ lb range. They are literally mutants IMO (for example 5 lb brook trout). They’d rarely if ever be seen in the wild so if you are paying to fish a lake with the potential to catch a “record” fish then it kinda takes the shine off the record part. But death threats? That’s ridiculous.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:54:29am

re: #136 lawhawk

Obama was behind 9/11 - that’s why he wasn’t in the White House on 9/11.

Well, why wasn’t he? Huh? If Obama is so great, how come he wasn’t in the WH during our most critical hour?

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:56:19am

re: #206 Patricia Kayden

Who knew that Idiocracy was prophetic?

They explain it pretty well in the opening scene:

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

Idiocracy

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:59:36am

re: #196 Charles Johnson

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Typical conservative. Always the victim but happy to bitch about other people who are victims of policies he supports. He knows better.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:00:15am

re: #215 Romantic Heretic

Like too many WoW players, but with fishing poles.

What about the WoW players who are fishing? They matter, too.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:00:37am

And, so how this image comes to mind…
I bet he’s (and all his associates) are voting for Trump

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:03:18am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

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No right to engage in violent disruption? Says the guy who said the second amendment people needed to do something about Clinton and stands with a stupid smile everytime his band of cultists talk about “Trumping that bitch” or “hang that bitch.” Go fuck yourself Donald, your base are violent disruptions to the very idea of progress in this coutnry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:03:52am

re: #221 BeachDem

A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

Yes, people who attend college and build careers tend to defer childbearing until it is too late to have a large family. Those who start when still in high school , however, just keep on breeding until their oldest kids can babysit the youngest ones…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:03:54am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

Trump addresses unrest in Charlotte: “There is no right to engage in violent disruption.”


— MSNBC

Also no right to march, conduct sit-ins, kneel when the national anthem is played, vote….

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:04:23am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

No right to engage in violent disruption? Says the guy who said the second amendment people needed to do something about Clinton and stands with a stupid smile everytime his band of cultists talk about “Trumping that bitch” or “hang that bitch.” Go fuck yourself Donald, your base are violent disruptions to the very idea of progress in this coutnry.

That’s completely different.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:05:05am

re: #227 Sir John Barron

Trump addresses unrest in Charlotte: “There is no right for minorities to engage in violent disruption.”

just added the subtext there…

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:07:26am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

Trump addresses unrest in Charlotte: “There is no right to engage in violent disruption.”

You can either be violent or disruptive, but you can’t be both.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:09:14am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

No right to engage in violent disruption? Says the guy who said the second amendment people needed to do something about Clinton and stands with a stupid smile everytime his band of cultists talk about “Trumping that bitch” or “hang that bitch.” Go fuck yourself Donald, your base are violent disruptions to the very idea of progress in this coutnry.

Someone should ask Trump what his opinion on the Boston “Massacre” is.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:10:18am

re: #228 Sir John Barron

That’s completely different.

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Because it is not violent protest, overthrowing the democratically elected government is in the constitution, why else would we have a 2nd amendment? That’s why the founders put it in there. Really, ask anyone who agrees with me…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:10:35am

re: #231 Timothy Watson

Someone should ask Trump what his opinion on the Boston “Massacre” is.

What was that? My followers were just a little zealous that night.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:11:58am

re: #232 Le Lapin Tueur

Because it is not violent protest, overthrowing the democratically elected government is in the constitution, why else would we have a 2nd amendment? That’s why the founders put it in there. Really, ask anyone who agrees with me…

We’re not violent. Believe me. But if Hillary is elected that is direct proof for why a Constitutional revolt with our 2nd Amendment guns is needed.

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Jenner7  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:12:10am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:14:15am

re: #235 Jenner7

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BlackPearl  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:21:43am

re: #235 Jenner7

That was speedy. And not drawn out into a multi-day even more offensive semi-defense. Almost like a real campaign. I think that worries me.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:23:09am

re: #235 Jenner7

That’s an actual apology, not one of those “I apologize to those who were offended”, non apology apologies. Interesting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:23:41am

re: #237 BlackPearl

That was speedy. And not drawn out into a multi-day even more offensive semi-defense. Almost like a real campaign. I think that worries me.

Or there is a lot more embarrassing dirt on her that would come to light unless she gets outta Dodge before sunset.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:24:06am

re: #235 Jenner7

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Tracey Winbush is a former Never Trumper and Kasich supporter who criticized Trump early on, but has since fallen in line.

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Jayleia  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:28:10am

re: #215 Romantic Heretic

HEY! I resemble that remark!

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Loving the Demon Hunter class

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:28:59am

Man drives into crowd of peaceful protestors. Gun drawn and brandished. Allowed to drive away.

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:30:34am

re: #238 lawhawk

That’s an actual apology, not one of those “I apologize to those who were offended”, non apology apologies. Interesting.

To me it sounded more like “I’m sorry I said those things out loud.”

My PERSONAL comments were INAPPROPRIATE.

Nope—they were flat out stupid, wrong and racist. YMMV

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:32:26am

re: #242 jaunte

Man drives into crowd of peaceful protestors. Gun drawn and brandished. Allowed to drive away.

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did anybody get the license plate number? person needs to be arrested for threatened assault with a deadly weapon.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:33:31am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t know, but there had to be a lot of people with phones in the crowd around his car.

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:35:21am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

No right to engage in violent disruption? Says the guy who said the second amendment people needed to do something about Clinton and stands with a stupid smile everytime his band of cultists talk about “Trumping that bitch” or “hang that bitch.” Go fuck yourself Donald, your base are violent disruptions to the very idea of progress in this coutnry.

Happy…it just comes down to who is allowed to engage in violent disruption.

The King and his men have to keep the serfs in line after all. Same as it ever was.

Now…kiss the ring. Off with their heads!

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:36:52am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, people who attend college and build careers tend to defer childbearing until it is too late to have a large family. Those who start when still in high school , however, just keep on breeding until their oldest kids can babysit the youngest ones…

…and carry that to one of the popular conservative beliefs. Welfare allows it. Especially with the ‘thems.’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:40:55am

re: #247 ObserverArt

…and carry that to one of the popular conservative beliefs. Welfare allows it. Especially with the ‘thems.’

There are plenty of non-“thems” who fit that mold. And as long as the level of education in this country declines, we are initiating a self-reinfocing downward spiral.

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:42:33am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are plenty of non-“thems” who fit that mold. And as long as the level of education in this country declines, we are initiating a self-reinfocing downward spiral.

I agree. But have noticed the color of the thems seems important in how conservatives approach the subject. Can’t piss off your voter base!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:42:44am

re: #246 ObserverArt

Happy…it just comes down to who is allowed to engage in violent disruption.

The King and his men have to keep the serfs in line after all. Same as it ever was.

Now…kiss the ring. Off with their heads!

Oh I know.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:43:19am

re: #249 ObserverArt

I agree. But have noticed the color of the thems seems important in how conservatives approach the subject. Can’t piss off your voter base!

thems are not allowed to do a lot of things that non-thems are encouraged to do, like arm themselves against law enforcement.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:48:39am

Li’l Whiplash just retweeted this, because Twitter is allowed to have a TOS but Christian bakers aren’t. UNFAIR!

I am pretty sure no bakery would be prosecuted for refusing to decorate a cake that said RUN THEM DOWN.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:51:56am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Li’l Whiplash just retweeted this, because Twitter is allowed to have a TOS but Christian bakers aren’t. UNFAIR!

I am pretty sure no bakery would be prosecuted for refusing to decorate a cake that said RUN THEM DOWN.

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When is Whiplash going to demand a refund from Harvard?

Pretty bad that someone with a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice has a better understanding of freedom of speech than a Harvard educated lawyer.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:54:29am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Li’l Whiplash just retweeted this, because Twitter is allowed to have a TOS but Christian bakers aren’t. UNFAIR!

I am pretty sure no bakery would be prosecuted for refusing to decorate a cake that said RUN THEM DOWN.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:55:59am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

So he’s now admitting to using drugs? That’s the only way what he is seeing in Charlotte with protesters involves any drugs.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:58:49am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Li’l Whiplash just retweeted this, because Twitter is allowed to have a TOS but Christian bakers aren’t. UNFAIR!

I am pretty sure no bakery would be prosecuted for refusing to decorate a cake that said RUN THEM DOWN.

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The thing is the “Christian bakers” are picking and choosing. If you’re denying gay couples based on your belief that homosexuality is a sin, then you should be denying divorcees but they’re not denying divorcees. Hell many of these bakers are divorcees themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:59:13am

re: #253 Timothy Watson

When is Whiplash going to demand a refund from Harvard?

Pretty bad that someone with a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice has a better understanding of freedom of speech than a Harvard educated lawyer.

No kidding.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:59:19am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:59:45am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

The thing is the “Christian bakers” are picking and choosing. If you’re denying gay couples based on your belief that homosexuality is a sin, then you should be denying divorcees but they’re not denying divorcees. Hell many of these bakers are divorcees themselves.

Forget it, can’t reason with these people.

I’ll just say they have a very warped sense of morality and ethics.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:59:46am

re: #254 Sir John Barron

The far-right is pretty disturbed.

Plus there’s a big difference between not wanting threats on your website and providing a service for something that is LEGAL in this country.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:59:59am

re: #9 S’latch

As a graduate of UT Law, I know Glenn Reynolds as I took a few of his classes. I have no idea why he is such a conservative celebrity. In my opinion, he is a bore. His views are standard conservative egoistic rationalizations. I guess he’s just quicker to spout off and louder about it than the average right-winger. I’m sure he thinks he is hilarious when he suggests running over protesters with motor vehicles. I heard similar stuff in “Torts 101” with Professor Reynolds, from him and UT Law students.

When I was actively blogging in law school, Reynolds was a regular read. Like Drudge, he’s mostly a clearing house of random stories that you’d might not see other places. I can’t remember if I found his blog because of Sullivan’s or because of an appearance on Hardball (which is how I found Sullivan in the first place, lo those many years ago).

I haven’t actually read his blog in probably 8 or 9 years now. But once I stopped blogging, I cut way down on what I was reading (at one point I probably checked 2 dozen blogs multiple times a day and another 20-30 at least once a day).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:00:31am

re: #259 Sir John Barron

Forget it, can’t reason with these people.

I’ll just say they have a very warped sense of morality and ethics.

I always wonder what kind of moronic businessperson openly admits they’re going to deny people a service. Yeah you’re such victims. NOT.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:02:56am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Perhaps Shapiro and ilk need an education on state discrimination laws versus private companies determining what speech they allow on their platforms. I assume that in states where LGBTs are not included in anti-discrimination laws, bakers can refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings (as well as fire or refuse to rent a house to gays).

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:03:03am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

I always wonder what kind of moronic businessperson openly admits they’re going to deny people a service. Yeah you’re such victims. NOT.

And openly advocating violence is quite a different thing from not wanting to serve someone. But that’s how a particular sort—I won’t call them deplorables—apparently sees things.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:04:11am

re: #209 makeitstop

I’m sure Twitter will be absolutely crushed.

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This will be the second time it goes bankrupt in months!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:04:50am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

And openly advocating violence is quite a different thing from not wanting to serve someone. But that’s how a particular sort—I won’t call them deplorables—apparently sees things.

Yep.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:05:49am

re: #261 KGxvi

I haven’t actually read his blog in probably 8 or 9 years now. But once I stopped blogging, I cut way down on what I was reading (at one point I probably checked 2 dozen blogs multiple times a day and another 20-30 at least once a day).

I remember those days. I think I frequented so many because none of them really had a good, or at least ongoing, comment section. Either the threads didn’t stay active or there ceased being anything substantive on them. So I felt like I had to keep moving on to some other blog looking for more content.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:08:23am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

The thing is the “Christian bakers” are picking and choosing. If you’re denying gay couples based on your belief that homosexuality is a sin, then you should be denying divorcees but they’re not denying divorcees. Hell many of these bakers are divorcees themselves.

Interfaith marriages, second marriages, atheist marriages, marriages of couples that cohabitated, interracial marriage, marriages not performed in a church or by a clergy of acceptable adherence to your beliefs…

I was thinking about this last night, for some strange reason, and what jumps out at me is that those of us opposed to these “Christian bakers” have been framing this the wrong way. Rather than saying they’re discriminating based on sexual orientation, we should be pointing out that they are discriminating based on religion - there are plenty of religions/denominations that accept and conduct same sex marriages. I think it’d be a hell of a lot harder for some social conservatives to make the argument that it’s okay if we framed it as religious discrimination rather than sexual orientation discrimination. At the very least, both arguments should be made.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:09:40am

re: #268 KGxvi

Interfaith marriages, second marriages, atheist marriages, marriages of couples that cohabitated, interracial marriage, marriages not performed in a church or by a clergy of acceptable adherence to your beliefs…

I was thinking about this last night, for some strange reason, and what jumps out at me is that those of us opposed to these “Christian bakers” have been framing this the wrong way. Rather than saying they’re discriminating based on sexual orientation, we should be pointing out that they are discriminating based on religion - there are plenty of religions/denominations that accept and conduct same sex marriages. I think it’d be a hell of a lot harder for some social conservatives to make the argument that it’s okay if we framed it as religious discrimination rather than sexual orientation discrimination. At the very least, both arguments should be made.

That’s a good point. There are plenty of denominations that perform same sex marriages. I remember wanting to frame the same sex marriage debate in a similar manner because of exactly that.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:15:04am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Predicted that: #99. He’s just lame at this point.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:15:41am

re: #267 Sir John Barron

I remember those days. I think I frequented so many because none of them really had a good, or at least ongoing, comment section. Either the threads didn’t stay active or there ceased being anything substantive on them. So I felt like I had to keep moving on to some other blog looking for more content.

I had my own blog(s) at the time, so I was looking for commentary and things to write about - I also think I checked 4-5 newspapers online daily as well. I was in law school and had more time on my hands. Every once in a while I check some of those blogs I used to read and I’m not sure if I changed, they changed, or both, but they are a different world than what I remember,

As for comments, I never cared much for comments until after I stopped blogging. (Except to the extent they served as a function of monitoring traffic).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:16:22am

re: #270 Belafon

Predicted that: #99. He’s just lame at this point.

I wonder if he’s this angry and bitter in his early 30’s. How’s he going to be when he’s older? He just seems to have a lot of resentments for someone who should have little.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:20:47am

On the original point of the thread.

If I used Twitter I tweet back at instapundit, “Does that mean the next time I see a bunch of people marching around with Confederate and swastika flags it’s ‘pedal to the metal’?”

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:25:10am

re: #241 Jayleia

HEY! I resemble that remark!

//

Loving the Demon Hunter class

I’m loving it too. But currently I’m concentrating on my Blood Elf Fire Mage. Her artifact weapon is sweet.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:26:29am

re: #273 Romantic Heretic

On the original point of the thread.

If I used Twitter I tweet back at instapundit, “Does that mean the next time I see a bunch of people marching around with Confederate and swastika flags it’s ‘pedal to the metal’?”

Only if they’re Black people marching around.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:26:44am

Again, there is a difference between personal sexual orientation and political views.

Many see it as a lifestyle choice, but the law has been clear on LGBT rights.

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:27:39am

re: #258 Charles Johnson

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:28:52am

re: #274 Romantic Heretic

I’m loving it too. But currently I’m concentrating on my Blood Elf Fire Mage. Her artifact weapon is sweet.

To each their own nerditude. I am doing two kits’ worth of Austrian hussars.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:29:47am

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:32:48am

re: #258 Charles Johnson

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this guy may have a business model here

write the headline figuring most of his readers wont bother to read the details or watch the videos he posts. or if they do, not be able to analyze them in any sort of objective way

the headline wins, gets remembered and is added to “evidence”.

or else he’s just an idiot

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:34:54am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

I always wonder what kind of moronic businessperson openly admits they’re going to deny people a service. Yeah you’re such victims. NOT.

i had an idea when the bakery thing was going on
get like 100 “gay” couples to go there, line up and try and order

see how strong the conviction is and whether the exclusionary business model still holds up

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:35:58am

re: #277 b.d.

Just you wait until that Whitey tape shows up!!!

It was mentioned just the other day when the whole “Hillary started the birthers—Blumenthal was intrigued about the Whitey tape—FACT! PROOF!” was making the rounds.

(Or, if the NYT chose to cover it—“A cloud and a shadow over the Clinton campaign—does the Whitey tape exist? Nobody has put the suggestion to rest. When will Hillary address this important issue?”)///

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:37:11am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nice.

Unfortunately I haven’t the money or room for that type of thing any more. Sigh.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:38:11am

Pastor lady on CNN is awesome.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:42:30am

re: #282 BeachDem

i read somewhere this morning, cant remember - someone actually wrote

“because she waited one day before announcing she had pneumonia”

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Kragar  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:42:41am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:45:33am
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Kragar  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:46:35am

re: #287 Charles Johnson

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:47:28am

re: #288 Kragar

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Nihilists, dude.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:48:35am

re: #287 Charles Johnson

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You know, I am starting to rethink this whole legalization of marijuana thing.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:51:51am

re: #280 dangerman

or else he’s just an idiot

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

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Kragar  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:56:45am

TRUMP IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS!

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:57:14am
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gocart mozart  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:01:24am
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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:01:27am

re: #291 Le Lapin Tueur

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

Send the prize winnings to my foundation

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:02:39am

re: #294 Kragar

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The redstate guy?

(edited for typo)

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Kragar  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:05:15am

re: #297 dangerman

Yup

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Scottishdragon  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:05:32am

Class coming soon. See you all later.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:06:09am
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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:08:13am

re: #294 Kragar

Fact checking, my ass.

They used to cite that they’d fact check the ass off of the media or anyone else.

Turns out, they’ve decided facts are irrelevant. Their feelings and delusions are more trusty than facts or logic.

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:09:42am

re: #221 BeachDem

The difficulty I have with the Idiocracy model is that the important stupidity in the US is not biological or generically inherited. Instead it is willful, culturally transmitted and inherited by indoctrination.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:10:40am

re: #298 Kragar

Yup

i wonder whether their traffic plummeted because son of erick left or because it really was full of ignoramuses

inquiring minds and all that

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:10:44am

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TedStriker  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:11:54am

re: #304 Shiplord Kirel

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:12:26am

re: #304 Shiplord Kirel

Thanksgiving must be fun

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:13:08am

re: #287 Charles Johnson

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There’s a lot wrong with Gary Johnson and honestly Libertarianism as whole that gets ignored because of abstract talk about liberty. Fact is Johnson’s perception of how civil rights and liberties should be protected is horribly outdated and his views on economics are from a time that we had no true middle class.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:13:49am

re: #292 Kragar

TRUMP IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS!

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And of course the gun humpers supporting Trump don’t care about this because they know their guns won’t be taken away in this.

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:13:49am

re: #302 EPR-radar

The difficulty I have with the Idiocracy model is that the important stupidity in the US is not biological or generically inherited. Instead it is willful, culturally transmitted and inherited by indoctrination.

That’s why I said that recent events actually refute the movie’s premise, since the Idiocracy is already here, without 500 years of unnatural selection.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:15:06am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

They hope. Police would actually like for a lot of people to have fewer guns.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:15:10am

re: #304 Shiplord Kirel

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Must be interesting family reunions. I come from a large farming family with regular reunions. When I was a kid, with the exception of a couple of in-laws, almost everyone was a New Deal democrat (my parents and that generation came of age in the Great Depression).

At the last reunion last summer I got into “conversations” with cousins who hold that states should set laws so as to attract those whose beliefs most accord with each state. And these are doctors and mergers/aquisition guys. Ain’t no accountin’.

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:15:37am

re: #296 dangerman

Send the prize winnings to my foundation

Speaking of foundations, I hadn’t seem this little ditty before:
Donald Trump bid on a dinner with Salma Hayek and a tour of the famed Chataeu Latour vineyard at a charity gala — but never went on the trip, according to an aide. Tax records show the donation was made by his foundation, not himself…

buzzfeed.com

Yada, yada—didn’t take the trip, nobody knows what happened to it…and the media yawns and why won’t Hillary smile more.

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:16:21am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

There’s a lot wrong with Gary Johnson and honestly Libertarianism as whole that gets ignored because of abstract talk about liberty. Fact is Johnson’s perception of how civil rights and liberties should be protected is horribly outdated and his views on economics are from a time that we had no true middle class.

The point of all that abstract talk about liberty is to distract from all those pesky details about how civil rights (there wouldn’t be any) and economics (i.e., neo-feudalism) would work in Libertopia.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:17:06am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

There’s a lot wrong with Gary Johnson and honestly Libertarianism as whole that gets ignored because of abstract talk about liberty. Fact is Johnson’s perception of how civil rights and liberties should be protected is horribly outdated and his views on economics are from a time that we had no true middle class.

I know a handful of Republicans who can’t stand Trump, but who also won’t vote for Hillary, that have glommed onto Johnson. I generally hold my tongue when he comes up in conversation, for fear that I might convince them that he’s an idiot and swing their votes for Trump.

Not that it really matters in Minnesota, but it’s the best I can do.

The number of people I know that seem to think that voting third party is meaningful in some way is a bit depressing.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:17:13am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

There’s a lot wrong with Gary Johnson and honestly Libertarianism as whole that gets ignored because of abstract talk about liberty. Fact is Johnson’s perception of how civil rights and liberties should be protected is horribly outdated and his views on economics are from a time that we had no true middle class.

I had hope for Johnson, since he was actually a governor of an actual state… But he seems to have trekked into glibertarian land.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:17:56am

re: #313 EPR-radar

The point of all that abstract talk about liberty is to distract from all those pesky details about how civil rights (there wouldn’t be any) and economics (i.e., neo-feudalism) would work in Libertopia.

Absolutely. It’s very easy for Gary Johnson and any libertarian for that matter to go on about liberty when you don’t press him on how his views are actually quite reactionary. It’s honestly sad seeing how many young people embrace this mindset.

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:19:03am

re: #309 Shiplord Kirel

That’s why I said that recent events actually refute the movie’s premise, since the Idiocracy is already here, without 500 years of unnatural selection.

There’s also the inconvenient business about Idiocracy’s model for intelligence being completely consistent with The Bell Curve. Once I saw that pointed out, I soured on that aspect of the movie

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:19:11am

re: #312 BeachDem

Speaking of foundations, I hadn’t seem this little ditty before:
Donald Trump bid on a dinner with Salma Hayek and a tour of the famed Chataeu Latour vineyard at a charity gala — but never went on the trip, according to an aide. Tax records show the donation was made by his foundation, not himself…

buzzfeed.com

Yada, yada—didn’t take the trip, nobody knows what happened to it…and the media yawns and why won’t Hillary smile more.

I’d bet because Salma Hayek made it clear that she didn’t want to hang with him.

She’s a smart woman.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:19:42am

re: #315 KGxvi

I had hope for Johnson, since he was actually a governor of an actual state… But he seems to have trekked into glibertarian land.

Yeah I still think he’s the second most sane candidate running but that’s more less a reflection of how bad Trump and Stein are IMO but he’s got a lot of problems that shouldn’t be ignored.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:20:39am

re: #315 KGxvi

I had hope for Johnson, since he was actually a governor of an actual state… But he seems to have trekked into glibertarian land.

How can we be sure?

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:21:12am

re: #311 Barefoot Grin

Must be interesting family reunions. I come from a large farming family with regular reunions. When I was a kid, with the exception of a couple of in-laws, almost everyone was a New Deal democrat (my parents and that generation came of age in the Great Depression).

At the last reunion last summer I got into “conversations” with cousins who hold that states should set laws so as to attract those whose beliefs most accord with each state. And these are doctors and mergers/aquisition guys. Ain’t no accountin’.

The old “laboratories of democracy” argument. Unfortunately, we’ve seen too many states turn into meth labs of democracy.

The counter argument to that is fairly simple: that’s mostly what we do. But we have a baseline of what is and isn’t allowed - it’s called the constitution, and some of the stuff, like due process and equal protection is so important we put it in there twice.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:22:15am

re: #320 wrenchwench

How can we be sure?

There’s a New Mexico?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:22:33am

I personally think Libertarians have a lot in common with dogmatic Marxists. They’re convinced their worldview is the only right one and they don’t give a lot of credence to things like real world data and observations.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:25:54am

re: #313 EPR-radar

The point of all that abstract talk about liberty is to distract from all those pesky details about how civil rights (there wouldn’t be any) and economics (i.e., neo-feudalism) would work in Libertopia.

You say neo-feudalism like it’s a bad thing. If you don’t like the way you are being repressed in New Alabama, more to a more enlightened stated, such as New Ohio, where the laws favor you over someone different…

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Black d20  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:27:08am

re: #274 Romantic Heretic

Man, don’t get me started on MMO addictions. On a whim, I got my sorry ass back into Guild Wars 2 and there’s stuff to do now! Not that there wasn’t before, but I guess I needed a break from hunting for GW2’s equivalent of transmog skins and achievements.

… which just means I have even MORE cheevos to tackle now. Ugh. The treadmill continues!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:28:05am

re: #321 KGxvi

The old “laboratories of democracy” argument. Unfortunately, we’ve seen too many states turn into meth labs of democracy.

The counter argument to that is fairly simple: that’s mostly what we do. But we have a baseline of what is and isn’t allowed - it’s called the constitution, and some of the stuff, like due process and equal protection is so important we put it in there twice.

That’s somewhat where I came down, but the M/A guy is also fundamentalist Christian—anti-gay marriage. I simply said that it makes no sense to have a variety of marriage laws to shop among because many people will move throughout their lives—what if you’re transferred to state that doesn’t allow SSM? In many cases his approach could not guarantee fundamental rights across all states. But, unlike you (and Glenn Reynolds!) I’m not a law-talking guy…(meant to be funny, not snarky/fail, I know)

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:29:12am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:31:11am

New RW meme that is making the rounds:


Suits me, if it takes a load of RWNJs in the other direction.
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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:31:12am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

I personally think Libertarians have a lot in common with dogmatic Marxists. They’re convinced their worldview is the only right one and they don’t give a lot of credence to things like real world data and observations.

Within the “movement” there is definitely a lot of dogmatic thinking with regular dismissals of how things actually work. There’s usually a few different camps that form. One is those who believe things went off the rails in the early 20th century and that we should basically go back to having a pre-industrial or proto-industrial society. The level of stupid there is fairly obvious. Then there’s the camp that tend to think they’re smarter than everyone else and if the world was more like they want they’d become rich and powerful, and stupid people would get what they deserve. The problem with that camp is they ignore the fact that you’ll never live in a world where everyone has perfect information and the ability to analyze it, meaning they’ll get fucked over at some point. Then there are those who are really more anarchist than anything. They are the type who just want to watch the world burn.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:33:07am

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel

If they’re so desperate they’re willing to hang onto the outside of a train for hours to get in the US, I’ll take them over the lazy ass Americans who think they deserve this place by birthright.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:34:00am

re: #330 KGxvi

Within the “movement” there is definitely a lot of dogmatic thinking with regular dismissals of how things actually work. There’s usually a few different camps that form. One is those who believe things went off the rails in the early 20th century and that we should basically go back to having a pre-industrial or proto-industrial society. The level of stupid there is fairly obvious. Then there’s the camp that tend to think they’re smarter than everyone else and if the world was more like they want they’d become rich and powerful, and stupid people would get what they deserve. The problem with that camp is they ignore the fact that you’ll never live in a world where everyone has perfect information and the ability to analyze it, meaning they’ll get fucked over at some point. Then there are those who are really more anarchist than anything. They are the type who just want to watch the world burn.

But like dogmatic Marxists, they’re all united under one belief: If Libertarianism doesn’t work, that’s because it’s not been properly implemented and the “right people” put in charge.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:34:11am

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel

Someone’s recycling!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:36:18am

re: #317 EPR-radar

There’s also the inconvenient business about Idiocracy’s model for intelligence being completely consistent with The Bell Curve. Once I saw that pointed out, I soured on that aspect of the movie

Basically they claim that if the “smart people” practiced a form of eugenics, Idiocracy would not arise.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:36:48am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. It’s very easy for Gary Johnson and any libertarian for that matter to go on about liberty when you don’t press him on how his views are actually quite reactionary. It’s honestly sad seeing how many young people embrace this mindset.

lets just riff that for a moment

It’s very easy for trump to go on about any topic when you don’t press him on how his views are actually implemented

its honestly sad seeing how many people embrace this mindset whether !team! or !not hillary!

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:37:36am

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel

New RW meme that is making the rounds:

[Embedded content]

Suits me, if it takes a load of RWNJs in the other direction.

Thinking about how a train from Dhaka is going to arrive here.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:38:11am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

I personally think Libertarians have a lot in common with dogmatic Marxists. They’re convinced their worldview is the only right one and they don’t give a lot of credence to things like real world data and observations.

like a lotta republicans and conservatives

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:39:58am

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:40:15am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

There’s a lot wrong with Gary Johnson and honestly Libertarianism as whole that gets ignored because of abstract talk about liberty. Fact is Johnson’s perception of how civil rights and liberties should be protected is horribly outdated and his views on economics are from a time that we had no true middle class.

I just call ‘em ‘anarchists’ because that’s what they are.

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:40:50am

Here’s an excellent description of Trump supporters gq.com

E.g.,

Trump is human waste. He is the worst of America stuffed into a nacho cheese casing, and he is emblematic of the kind of arrogant, flag-waving, trashy, racist moron that the rest of us have to DRAG kicking and screaming into the 21st century: Cliven Bundy, Sean Hannity, Kim Davis, and on and on and on. Trump voters are the people who have spent the past decade or so voting insipid obstructionists into office, sending death threats to anyone who even mentions the idea of gun control, demanding 100% tax cuts on millions of dollars they can only daydream about making, and getting suckered in by any Oil Party candidate waving a NO GAYS flag. Fuck them. These are needy hillbilly loons who are just as starved for attention as Trump himself. And voting for Trump is their way of emulating him, of saying FUCK YOU to everyone else as a mission statement, with no regard for the fallout.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:44:26am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

A writer at The American Conservative, of all things, came to the same conclusion a decade ago.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:51:41am

re: #341 Romantic Heretic

A writer at The American Conservative, of all things, came to the same conclusion a decade ago.

did you see the comments? who posts comments to an article 5, 10 or more years later?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2016 • 12:10:19pm

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel

New RW meme that is making the rounds:

[Embedded content]

Suits me, if it takes a load of RWNJs in the other direction.

At least it’s still on the rails, unlike the tRump train.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2016 • 12:11:34pm

re: #336 jaunte

Thinking about how a train from Dhaka is going to arrive here.

Wet

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 12:54:58pm

re: #268 KGxvi

Interfaith marriages, second marriages, atheist marriages, marriages of couples that cohabitated, interracial marriage, marriages not performed in a church or by a clergy of acceptable adherence to your beliefs…

I was thinking about this last night, for some strange reason, and what jumps out at me is that those of us opposed to these “Christian bakers” have been framing this the wrong way. Rather than saying they’re discriminating based on sexual orientation, we should be pointing out that they are discriminating based on religion - there are plenty of religions/denominations that accept and conduct same sex marriages. I think it’d be a hell of a lot harder for some social conservatives to make the argument that it’s okay if we framed it as religious discrimination rather than sexual orientation discrimination. At the very least, both arguments should be made.

Easy. They would just say any religion denomination that allows same sex marriage is not a true Christian religion…and is of the devil. Reason…because it is clear in their bible and in their teachings.

How else did Christianity go from St. Peter being told by Jesus the Catholic Church was “the one true church built upon his rock” into how many churches now? Because man can be led by other men and they can be told to follow just about anything.


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