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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:18:35pm
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freetoken  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:18:56pm

Eek:

Yahoo hit in worst hack ever, 500 million accounts swiped

Hackers swiped personal information associated with at least a half billion Yahoo accounts, the internet giant said Thursday, marking the biggest data breach in history.

The hack, which took place in 2014, revealed names, email addresses, phone numbers, birth dates and, in some cases, security questions and answers, Yahoo said in a press release. Encrypted passwords, which are jumbled so only a person with the right passcode can read them, were also taken.

The internet pioneer, which is in the process of selling itself to Verizon, said it’s “working closely” with law enforcement. It called the hackers a “state-sponsored actor,” though it didn’t identify a country behind the breach.

[…]

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:20:00pm

From my favorite liberterian crank, Hungary’s Prime Minister’s calls for a round-up of migrants in the EU:(paywalled)

“Those who came illegally must be rounded up and shipped out,” Mr Orban said in an interview released on Thursday by news website origo.hu. He suggested an estimated 1.5m refugees and migrants who arrived on the continent last year should be sent to “an island or somewhere in north Africa” where European forces would enforce order. “That will solve all the problems,” he said.

“It’s the only solution that will work for everyone; for those of us who are not yet in trouble, because we protected ourselves. And also for countries like Germany, who are already in trouble,” he said. “The answer is to take [migrants] out of the union.”

Hungary sealed its border with Serbia last September, choking off the main route of migration into the EU via the western Balkans and diverting the flow westwards through Slovenia and Croatia. Other EU countries have since followed suit, although a German-sponsored EU deal with Turkey to reduce the influx of migrants has led to a drop in arrivals.

Mr Orban also took aim at Angela Merkel’s mea culpa this week, in which the German chancellor expressed regret that she could not “turn back the clock” to improve the country’s preparedness before she in effect welcomed in hundreds of thousands of migrants last year.

While her comments have been welcomed by some critics in Germany, the Hungarian premier suggested there was little substance behind them.

“What can I say about the German politicians and their policies?” he said. “I also would like to turn back the clock — what a great idea. But the problem is that it’s not possible.”

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freetoken  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:22:03pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I wonder if the institutional Republicans who are remaining quiet about Drumpfskind are scheming in the closets that once Drumpfskind is elected they can bring all these probably illegal Drumpfskind activities to light, and then force Drumpfskind to resign, so they can have Pence as President?

Isn’t that one of the working conjectures?

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Kragar  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:24:47pm
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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:25:57pm

re: #2 freetoken

I got an email from yahoo saying this happens in 2014 and they suggest I change my password. Now. In 2016.

Thanks, guys!

I’ve changed my password 15x since 2014, but I sincerely appreciate the notice! /dripping

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:26:36pm

re: #4 freetoken

I wonder if the institutional Republicans who are remaining quiet about Drumpfskind are scheming in the closets that once Drumpfskind is elected they can bring all these probably illegal Drumpfskind activities to light, and then force Drumpfskind to resign, so they can have Pence as President?

Isn’t that one of the working conjectures?

That’s my working theory.

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Weaselone  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:28:03pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Isn’t it standard practice that the SS pays for it’s own airfare? Normally that payment would be going to a charter company or airline, but in this case it’s Trump as it’s his jet. The question is whether their is something excessive about the compensation he is receiving, although this does play into the narrative that he’s running a huge grift regardless.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:33:31pm

re: #8 Weaselone

The Donald™ got Secret Service protection when he effectively wrapped up the nomination in Indiana on 3 May. So the SS have been traveling with the man for roughly 140 days, or $7800 a day.

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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:37:36pm

Bleah. Felt like crud all week but got some birthday money in the mail and splurged. Since it’s been talked about lately, I thought I’d give the old Grouse a try.

Here’s a wee dram to you all!

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:40:11pm

“It is really clear: Donald Trump would 100 percent go along with the Republican donor class position of cutting Social Security. He openly says he will lie to the people about it because he knows that the people are against it. In his eyes the ‘moral’ thing to do is to steal people’s hard-earned benefits and not talk about it.”
m.dailykos.com

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:49:01pm

re: #11 William Lewis

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Bleah. Felt like crud all week but got some birthday money in the mail and splurged. Since it’s been talked about lately, I thought I’d give the old Grouse a try.

Here’s a wee dram to you all!

Did I miss your birthday? Happy one to you William.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:52:07pm
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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:52:48pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea

Did I miss your birthday? Happy one to you William.

Not till next Friday (30th) but my original plan was to go to a concert this weekend so I’d asked for cash gifts, early. Pneumonia put an end to the concert idea but the cash still arrived today so I got a bottle instead of a ticket.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:55:29pm

Good interview. Yes, it’s meaty and a little wonky, but very informative.

Olbermann is doing some of his best work right now.

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thecommodore  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:56:07pm

This is a good piece from TPM, talking about why Hillary isn’t running away with this thing. Basically - her case for election is Trump is horrible and she isn’t Trump. She isn’t making the case why people should vote for her.

I would add that the perceptions that she isn’t genuine or trustworthy are hampering her as well.

She should do very well in the debates as she is very good at that, and maybe if Trump gets off leash and does something Trumpish, like make a sexist remark to her face, then the margin should widen. That is, if she doesn’t take the bait and takes the high road. She should take several pages from Bill, and especially Obama on this count.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:57:12pm

re: #17 thecommodore

This is a good piece from TPM, talking about why Hillary isn’t running away with this thing. Basically - her case for election is Trump is horrible and she isn’t Trump. She isn’t making the case why people should vote for her.

I would add that the perceptions that she isn’t genuine or trustworthy are hampering her as well.

She should do very well in the debates as she is very good at that, and maybe if Trump gets off leash and does something Trumpish, like make a sexist remark to her face, then the margin should widen. That is, if she doesn’t take the bait and takes the high road. She should take several pages from Bill, and especially Obama on this count.

Tell us how well that worked for John Kerry.

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Jenner7  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:58:33pm

Two Tornadoes in Utah today. One North, one South. Some serious damage and little injuries. They were 0 on the Fujita scale. Lots of flooding, power outages, and we’ve got heavy rain here in Lehi. Crazy.

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thecommodore  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:58:46pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

Good interview. Yes, it’s meaty and a little wonky, but very informative.

Olbermann is doing some of his best work right now.

Yes he is. Hopefully it’s reaching undecideds and indies.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:58:51pm

That time when Glenn Reynolds attacked me for “seeing neo-Nazis behind every bush.”

Guess what? They were really there.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:59:32pm

re: #7 MsJ

That’s my working theory.

My working theory is that the whole lot are a bunch of empathy free, selfish, amoral dickbags who would sell their grandmother to the kibble factory for an expired Arby’s coupon and the change in your couch cushions.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:02:21pm

Oh, this happened to me this morning.

She’s in Chile training.

What can I say? I’m smitten.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:03:15pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:05:22pm

re: #19 Jenner7

Two Tornadoes in Utah today. One North, one South. Some serious damage and little injuries. They were 0 on the Fujita scale. Lots of flooding, power outages, and we’ve got heavy rain here in Lehi. Crazy.

Glad you’re ok.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:07:33pm

re: #19 Jenner7

Two Tornadoes in Utah today. One North, one South. Some serious damage and little injuries. They were 0 on the Fujita scale. Lots of flooding, power outages, and we’ve got heavy rain here in Lehi. Crazy.

That shit’s on its way my way. Been quite sometime since I’ve seen a squall like this.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:12:34pm

Basically Boca! (Fahrenthold is looking for a program to an event!)

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ninja cat  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:18:38pm

Another freedom of speech martyr gofundme coming soon I bet. Cocksure enough to use his work email, serves him right.

Link

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:24:50pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Nothing but a scam. I’ve never heard before of a Presidential Candidate making money from running for president. This is bizarre. By the time this is all over, Trump may actually be a billionaire.

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Great White Snark  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:25:44pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

That shit’s on its way my way. Been quite sometime since I’ve seen a squall like this.

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South end of that looks fierce

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:30:00pm

re: #30 Great White Snark

South end of that looks fierce

Flash flooding will be an issue in that area of the world tonight. Right around there is the scene of a devastating flash flood that killed 15 people last year.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:33:46pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:34:05pm

Kitty box done. The bane of my existence.

But Chica is cute.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:36:11pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:36:37pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:42:30pm

I was thinking the same thing.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:47:26pm

LOL who was the one that called it??????

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:48:12pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

LOL who was the one that called it??????

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This is going to be glorious

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:53:12pm

Mark Cuban is the fucking man. Definitely one of the most likable rich guys around.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:54:42pm

GLORIOUS

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Alyosha  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:55:09pm

Ahahahahaha!

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Alyosha  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:57:02pm

Sorry about that imagery, folks, just a rotten tweet drive-by for lunch ;)

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:58:28pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

His grandstanding troll game is on point. I used to loathe the guy, just reeked of smarminess. I have a great deal more respect for him today.

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VegasGolfer  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:58:54pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

I didn’t like him when I first became aware of him. But when I learned about him and listened to what he had to say and what he has done charity wise, I earned great respect for him. And when, as a republican, he goes against party and goes for the greater interests of the country, respect only gets greater.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 8:59:09pm

re: #42 Alyosha

Might be [ hide] [/ hide] worthy.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:03:24pm

re: #44 VegasGolfer

I didn’t like him when I first became aware of him. But when I learned about him and listened to what he had to say and what he has done charity wise, I earned great respect for him. And when, as a republican, he goes against party and goes for the greater interests of the country, respect only gets greater.

I respect a LOT of Republicans these days. I hold out my hand to the never Trumps. We can work with them, I believe it.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:07:40pm

re: #46 Stanley Sea

I respect a LOT of Republicans these days.

I don’t. Those same Republicans would vote for Ted Cruz if he were the nominee. They’re all whack.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:11:02pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

I don’t. Those same Republicans would vote for Ted Cruz if he were the nominee. They’re all whack.

We must have 2 parties to maintain this democracy as written. Otherwise we are going to uncharted waters. I don’t wan’t to do that.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:11:56pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

I don’t. Those same Republicans would vote for Ted Cruz if he were the nominee. They’re all whack.

Now, if there are some that speak out against Trump, without being religiously fundamentalist, I could deal with those. I know some, and I do.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:12:41pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

We must have 2 parties to maintain this democracy as written. Otherwise we are going to uncharted waters. I don’t wan’t to do that.

It sucks, it really does. But I’m certain Trump-ism is here to stay, even after the election. It’ll be a generation before The Donald’s™ damage is undone.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:14:45pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:15:27pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

It sucks, it really does. But I’m certain Trump-ism is here to stay, even after the election. It’ll be a generation before The Donald’s™ damage is undone.

Yes, they have a challenge.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:15:52pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

We must have 2 parties to maintain this democracy as written. Otherwise we are going to uncharted waters. I don’t wan’t to do that.

If the entire Republican party ends up as so much dust on the ash heap of history, a new party will form. Nature abhors a vacuum, and lord knows that without the external threat of the Republican party the Dems ain’t got the disciplain to stay unified.

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austin_blue  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:21:04pm

re: #11 William Lewis

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Bleah. Felt like crud all week but got some birthday money in the mail and splurged. Since it’s been talked about lately, I thought I’d give the old Grouse a try.

Here’s a wee dram to you all!

I want a review.

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austin_blue  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:25:47pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Oh, this happened to me this morning.

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She’s in Chile training.

What can I say? I’m smitten.

And she’s available. Dream, man, dream!

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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:26:01pm

re: #54 austin_blue

I want a review.

A tiny bit of smoke like Islay but yet pure Speyside. Not overly complex but much better than I could have hoped for the money. Not a $100 liter by any means. But for $25? Money well spent.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:26:54pm

Law?

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:27:29pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:28:52pm

re: #54 austin_blue

I want a review.

I also got some Famous Grouse earlier this week, and have enjoyed it greatly. For such a low-priced bottle, it’s smooth with a good flavor. I can pick up notes of vanilla, but my taster skills are crap, so I can’t give you any further description of notes and bouquet and what not. It smells good, tastes good. Try some today!

There is also a 12-year Grouse for about $40. I may give that a try later on.

EDIT: What William said.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:31:10pm

Sigh.

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austin_blue  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:35:10pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

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She keeps a dead ancestor’s scrotum on which to rub semi-precious gemstones and inhale the ancient ball whiff? Oh, my dog.

This whole New Age thing has jumped the fucking shark.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:37:26pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

P.S. I racked up approximately 220 new followers pretty much off that one CNN tweet alone. The internet so random.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:37:48pm
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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:39:25pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

Put the solid gold hairclip in them?

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:39:49pm

First of all, why isn’t Brian Ross’s report on Trump and the Russian oligarchs making any waves?
abcnews.go.com

Second of all—look at this bullshit from the spawn:
Trump’s children said that if their father becomes president, they would abide by the “blind trust” and not talk business with him.

“And we’ll act incredibly responsibly and my father already said that he would put the company into a blind trust and it would be run by us,” Ivanka Trump told ABC News last week.

Donald Trump Jr. said his father would not be told about their deals: “We’re not going to discuss those things. We’re just, it doesn’t matter. Trust me.”

Yeah, I’ll certainly put all of my trust in the Trump spawn. But that crap aside, as Jonathan Chait pointed out:

Amazingly, Trump has managed to blur the distinction between a blind trust and the opposite of a blind trust so thoroughly that the media is now repeating his own terms. “The Republican nominee has previously indicated,” reports Politico, “that he would place the businesses in a blind trust run by his children and executives.” Again, a “blind trust run by his children and executives” is not a thing.

nymag.com

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:41:02pm

re: #61 austin_blue

She keeps a dead ancestor’s scrotum on which to rub semi-precious gemstones and inhale the ancient ball whiff? Oh, my dog.

This whole New Age thing has jumped the fucking shark.

Tell me about it. Ron is fuckin’ out there.

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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:41:54pm

Attention any guitar players here: If you haven’t already (and I feel I must be the last to know of this) you really really really want to watch the docu “It Might Get Loud”. Jimmy Page, The Edge & Jack White talking about and playing, rockingly, electric guitar. Good lord that was amazing. I’m going to need to see it again (and again) and when I digest it, I may be a different player than I was before. Or I may be the same - but more certain of it. Time will tell…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:44:22pm

re: #65 BeachDem

First of all, why isn’t Brian Ross’s report on Trump and the Russian oligarchs making any waves?
abcnews.go.com

Second of all—look at this bullshit from the spawn:
Trump’s children said that if their father becomes president, they would abide by the “blind trust” and not talk business with him.

And we’ll act incredibly responsibly and my father already said that he would put the company into a blind trust and it would be run by us,” Ivanka Trump told ABC News last week.

Donald Trump Jr. said his father would not be told about their deals: “We’re not going to discuss those things. We’re just, it doesn’t matter. Trust me.”

Yeah, I’ll certainly put all of my trust in the Trump spawn. But that crap aside, as Jonathan Chait pointed out:

Amazingly, Trump has managed to blur the distinction between a blind trust and the opposite of a blind trust so thoroughly that the media is now repeating his own terms. “The Republican nominee has previously indicated,” reports Politico, “that he would place the businesses in a blind trust run by his children and executives.” Again, a “blind trust run by his children and executives” is not a thing.

nymag.com

I can hear Ivanka say those words, just like she says all words. So calm and sociopathic like.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:44:28pm

Y’all saw the new Between Two Ferns, right? Well, if not, be sure not to have any liquids in your mouth when watching this. The liquid may end up in your nose.

Between Two Ferns With Zach Galifianakis: Hillary Clinton

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:45:39pm

re: #65 BeachDem

a “blind trust run by his children and executives” is not a thing.

That would be as ridiculous as a charity that’s really a personal slush fund.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:46:09pm

re: #65 BeachDem

First of all, why isn’t Brian Ross’s report on Trump and the Russian oligarchs making any waves?
abcnews.go.com

Second of all—look at this bullshit from the spawn:
Trump’s children said that if their father becomes president, they would abide by the “blind trust” and not talk business with him.

“And we’ll act incredibly responsibly and my father already said that he would put the company into a blind trust and it would be run by us,” Ivanka Trump told ABC News last week.

Donald Trump Jr. said his father would not be told about their deals: “We’re not going to discuss those things. We’re just, it doesn’t matter. Trust me.”

Yeah, I’ll certainly put all of my trust in the Trump spawn. But that crap aside, as Jonathan Chait pointed out:

Amazingly, Trump has managed to blur the distinction between a blind trust and the opposite of a blind trust so thoroughly that the media is now repeating his own terms. “The Republican nominee has previously indicated,” reports Politico, “that he would place the businesses in a blind trust run by his children and executives.” Again, a “blind trust run by his children and executives” is not a thing.

nymag.com

Oh, it’s a thing, it’s just that the thing isn’t “blind trust”, the thing is “oligarchy”

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majii  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:46:45pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea
RE: Shelby

There is definitely something wrong with our justice system when someone like Dylann Roof is taken to Burger King after killing nine innocent persons at a church, and Shelby can leave town and return when she wants to and turn herself in at that time after gunning down an unarmed man in the street. Anyone who says there aren’t different justice systems in America that are based on social status, wealth, race, etc., is refusing to face reality. I read that some GOPers are very upset that Shelby’s being arrested, but I think she should be because the guy she killed wasn’t close enough to her to make her “fear for her life.” The “I feared for my life” defense by cops who kill innocent and unarmed people in the streets of America every d*mn day is now widely acceptable because of the proliferation of SYG laws throughout America. SYG has ruined this country because it has made it legal for some of us to kill our fellow citizens, utter four words, “I feared for my life,” and walk away scot-free. So much for the pro-life right-wing claim. If they refuse to value the life of an innocent, unarmed American killed by a cop, they aren’t pro-life, they’re pro-police.

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:47:10pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

I can hear Ivanka say those words, just like she says all words. So calm and sociopathic like.

I know—I read it in her snotty little voice as well. And duh Jr. getting pissed at being questioned and snarling in his best big duh voice, “We’re just, it doesn’t matter. Trust me.”

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:48:02pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Y’all saw the new Between Two Ferns, right? Well, if not, be sure not to have any liquids in your mouth when watching this. The liquid may end up in your nose.

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I’m seeing Republicans on my Facebook feed being shocked that she did this and how Trump would have wiped the floor with him… I didn’t have it in me to point out that it’s comedy, that she was in on the joke, and that she could actually laugh at herself

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:51:56pm

re: #74 KGxvi

I’m seeing Republicans on my Facebook feed being shocked that she did this and how Trump would have wiped the floor with him… I didn’t have it in me to point out that it’s comedy, that she was in on the joke, and that she could actually laugh at herself

Point it out.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:54:48pm

re: #72 majii

I was thinking about the ole fear for your life bs claim.

Fire fighters have to run to the fire. Cops should be required to do the same. If you want the job, you have to handle it.

They’d figure out ways to encounter people without the gun drawn & ready to fire.

The system is fascist in that they are allowed to be judge jury & executioner without any other option prioritized.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 9:58:45pm

re: #74 KGxvi

I’m seeing Republicans on my Facebook feed being shocked that she did this and how Trump would have wiped the floor with him… I didn’t have it in me to point out that it’s comedy, that she was in on the joke, and that she could actually laugh at herself

Trump would never be a part of something like Between Two Ferns. He learned his lesson with Ali G.

Da Ali G Show - Ali G interviews Donald Trump

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austin_blue  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:01:52pm

re: #56 William Lewis

A tiny bit of smoke like Islay but yet pure Speyside. Not overly complex but much better than I could have hoped for the money. Not a $100 liter by any means. But for $25? Money well spent.

Yes! That’s exactly what it is! Half Macallan and half Highland Park. There’s a reason why it is the most popular blend in Scotland by a wide margin.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:02:12pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

I was thinking about the ole fear for your life bs claim.

Fire fighters have to run to the fire. Cops should be required to do the same. If you want the job, you have to handle it.

They’d figure out ways to encounter people without the gun drawn & ready to fire.

The system is fascist in that they are allowed to be judge jury & executioner without any other option prioritized.

I think it was here, but someone pointed out that soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan had several layers of rules of engagement before they could fire on someone, even when they believed they were facing a car bomb.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:03:38pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:04:29pm

re: #79 KGxvi

I think it was here, but someone pointed out that soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan had several layers of rules of engagement before they could fire on someone, even when they believed they were facing a car bomb.

Our cops have no rules. Great point. Let’s get them the military training they want so badly.

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:05:20pm

Back to blind trusts—apparently Democrats actually do them: Ted Kennedy (when he did it, Romney called it an age old ruse—more on Romney later) LBJ, Obama—although Obama didn’t think even a blind trust was enough and sold all his stocks and put his money in treasury bonds and diversified funds.

Republicans? Not so much. Romney, 2012—in Romney’s case, apparently not quite blinkered enough to keep his trustee—who is also his personal lawyer and longtime friend Bradford Malt—from investing more than $10 million of Romney’s money in an investment fund managed by Romney’s son Tagg.
vanityfair.com

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:06:19pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:07:08pm

re: #83 Stanley Sea

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Which is good.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:08:35pm
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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:09:52pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

Trump would never be a part of something like Between Two Ferns. He learned his lesson with Ali G.

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Obama was pretty amazing on Betwen Two Ferns as well.

Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis: President Barack Obama

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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:10:17pm

re: #79 KGxvi

Exactly. If they fail to follow them, they will go to prison for war crimes.

Police need to have the same thing happen to them. Period.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:13:21pm

re: #79 KGxvi

I think it was here, but someone pointed out that soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan had several layers of rules of engagement before they could fire on someone, even when they believed they were facing a car bomb.

See Captian Kahn.

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:17:49pm

Question about Ali G. Is he a “guy” thing? I have never met a woman who liked that show nor a man who didn’t. I remember being over a friend’s house and her husband convinced me watch several episodes—I found it excruciating, but he was laughing so hard I feared he’d pee his pant

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:18:34pm

re: #89 BeachDem

Question about Ali G. Is he a “guy” thing? I have never met a woman who liked that show nor a man who didn’t. I remember being over a friend’s house and her husband convinced me watch several episodes—I found it excruciating, but he was laughing so hard I feared he’d pee his pant

Yup. Like the Three Stooges.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:22:17pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:23:41pm

re: #89 BeachDem

I thought the whole charade was brilliant. Sacha Baron Cohen got a lot of folks to reveal themselves, and he manipulated his marks all the way to the end. Hell, the coolest person on earth sat down with Ali G. And he was a good sport.

Ali G - Buzz Aldrin

As far as the male/female thing, you might have a point there. I can’t think of a single gal who loves the comedy of Sacha Baron Cohen.

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:24:20pm

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:27:39pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

I thought the whole charade was brilliant. Sacha Baron Cohen got a lot of folks to reveal themselves, and he manipulated his marks all the way to the end. Hell, the coolest person on earth sat down with Ali G. And he was a good sport.

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As far as the male/female thing, you might have a point there. I can’t think of a single gal who loves the comedy of Sacha Baron Cohen.

Yeah—not a fan. I suffered through “Borat” but Ali G. just stupefied me—and I thought he was just terrible in Les Mis—but then, I thought just about everyone and everything in the whole movie was terrible.

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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:28:44pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

Not sure it’s that cut and dried. I don’t find anything funny about any of the three. Just stupid being stupid.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:30:18pm

Eh. To each their own.

How about some Monty Python?

Mony Python - Buying A Bed

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austin_blue  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:43:42pm

re: #87 William Lewis

Exactly. If they fail to follow them, they will go to prison for war crimes.

Police need to have the same thing happen to them. Period.

Do I feel bad about five Dallas police officers being shot? About Baton Rouge police officers being shot?

Of course I do. People being shot in any uniform just because they are wearing a uniform is always tragic.

It happens during war. It happens in America. A couple of incidents in the last two years involved fire fighters being shot responding to alarms by nut jobs.

Why is it happening to police officers recently?

Maybe it’s because the relationship between Police Departments and the communities that pay their taxes to pay for their salaries and their retirement benefits have undergone a fundamental change.

Cops used to be on Our Side.

It doesn’t seem like that any more. It seems that they are now totally on Their Side, and they don’t give a fuck about us.

It’s is a sad and pitiful situation.

They used to be our neighbors, now they are judge and jury.

Bang! You’re dead, and I have a 1% chance of being indicted. So fuck you.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:45:24pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

“You just noticed that?” Twitter is almost as annoying as “That surprises you?” Twitter. Even more annoying: the people who ask you to explain something you just explained in the past seven tweets.

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austin_blue  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:13:03pm

Night all, sweet monitor Lizard dreams.

Time to pull up our big boy/girl pants and get cracking.

It’s just so damn important this year. Our nation is at stake.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:36:02pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 22, 2016 • 11:43:46pm

Drained a bit now, so I am going to bed. We will see if anything shifts tomorrow.

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2016 • 12:10:31am

re: #72 majii

In Colorado we have a “castle law.” In that you can use deadly force if you feel “threatened” or you “fear for your life” in your own home and be spared from the law.

Read this story. The deceased was a friend of mine in high school.

No witnesses, police not showing up for hours (Burns is fuckin’ boonies) and this guy that murdered my friend is a free man.

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Anymouse  Sep 23, 2016 • 12:11:47am

re: #48 Stanley Sea

We must have 2 parties to maintain this democracy as written. Otherwise we are going to uncharted waters. I don’t wan’t to do that.

Political parties have collapsed before in the USA’s history. Generally within a few election cycles another rises either from the ashes of the old, or an existing third party takes the lead.

The Republican Party itself arose from the collapse of the two-party system when the Whig Party divided and collapsed on the issue of slavery.

If the Republicans collapse over this election, it will hardly be the end of the Republic. Perhaps the Libertarians will become the opposing party (since they are already in all fifty states), perhaps another will arise. But the republic would not suffer.

As for the democracy as it is written, political parties do not appear in the Constitution.

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Alyosha  Sep 23, 2016 • 12:48:50am

Nope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 12:53:18am

re: #3 Eric The Fruit Bat

“What can I say about the German politicians and their policies?” he said. “I also would like to turn back the clock — what a great idea. But the problem is that it’s not possible.”)

Sounds like he wants to turn back the clock to 1933…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 12:54:50am

re: #4 freetoken

I wonder if the institutional Republicans who are remaining quiet about Drumpfskind are scheming in the closets that once Drumpfskind is elected they can bring all these probably illegal Drumpfskind activities to light, and then force Drumpfskind to resign, so they can have Pence as President?

Isn’t that one of the working conjectures?

They don’t even have to force him to resign, he will quickly grow frustrated with the nuts-and-bolts realities of actually governing and go off on AF1 jaunts to visit his dictatorial buddies, leaving Pence to run the whole show for him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 1:00:20am

re: #50 teleskiguy

It sucks, it really does. But I’m certain Trump-ism is here to stay, even after the election. It’ll be a generation before The Donald’s™ damage is undone.

We will probably stave off the Dawn of the Idiocracy for this election cycle, but I do not see how things will improve over the long run: the system will bring forth other idiocratic populists who will prove harder to ridicule and defeat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 1:02:31am

re: #67 William Lewis

Attention any guitar players here: If you haven’t already (and I feel I must be the last to know of this) you really really really want to watch the docu “It Might Get Loud”. Jimmy Page, The Edge & Jack White talking about and playing, rockingly, electric guitar. Good lord that was amazing. I’m going to need to see it again (and again) and when I digest it, I may be a different player than I was before. Or I may be the same - but more certain of it. Time will tell…

I enjoyed lots of it, but The Edge is a really, really boring guy when he is not playing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 1:03:40am

re: #72 majii

SYG has ruined this country because it has made it legal for some of us to kill our fellow citizens, utter four words, “I feared for my life,” and walk away scot-free. So much for the pro-life right-wing claim. If they refuse to value the life of an innocent, unarmed American killed by a cop, they aren’t pro-life, they’re pro-police.

Stand Your Ground simply encourages you not to leave any living witnesses who might challenge your version of events.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 1:12:08am

re: #97 austin_blue

Maybe it’s because the relationship between Police Departments and the communities that pay their taxes to pay for their salaries and their retirement benefits have undergone a fundamental change.

Cops used to be on Our Side.

It doesn’t seem like that any more. It seems that they are now totally on Their Side, and they don’t give a fuck about us.

It’s is a sad and pitiful situation.

There is a structural conflict as well: DA offices work with police forces to obtain indictments convictions, something that breaks down when they are forced to pursue a case against a police officer.

I have been waiting for an opening to present this article (I am too lazy to page it) but this sums up the situation: we send our police officers into a heavily armed environment where they have to assume that people are potential threats to their lives.

US cops killed 100 times more than German police in 2015

And this in a country that is currently housing over 1,000,000 (yes, that many) Middle Eastern refugees…

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 23, 2016 • 1:27:59am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I enjoyed lots of it, but The Edge is a really, really boring guy when he is not playing.

Bill Bailey - U2 Failure - Part Troll

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 2:47:40am

re: #111 Grunthos the Flatulent

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Edge killed the thread

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Alyosha  Sep 23, 2016 • 3:22:46am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 3:30:11am

So Gin Rummy (Rumsfeld) has no problem supporting the guy who claims to have consistently opposed the Iraq War?
talkingpointsmemo.com

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Alyosha  Sep 23, 2016 • 3:35:14am

re: #114 Timothy Watson

So Gin Rummy (Rumsfeld) has no problem supporting the guy who claims to have consistently opposed the Iraq War?
talkingpointsmemo.com

You go to the polls with the candidate you have, not the one you wish to have.

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Jayleia  Sep 23, 2016 • 3:36:05am

re: #114 Timothy Watson

Well, if you needed any further proof that Trump is a disastrous choice, Rumsfeld’s endorsement is it.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 3:36:09am

re: #115 Alyosha

You go to the polls with the candidate you have, not the one you wish to have.

Regret, but one upding, etc.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 23, 2016 • 4:09:25am

Up early watching Morning Joe. Scarborough’s son is in serious condition at Bellevue Hospital with a head injury after a fall down a flight of stairs. It doesn’t sound good, according to what Mika said right after they went on air.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 4:22:43am

yahoo news

“bad behavior” by a family member of a mere senate candidate
there’s already been statements of “disappointment”, other statements of apology and counseling

trump and his family? not even the crickets are chirping

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 4:28:46am

cudos to whoever here yesterday first suggested this

Mark Cuban’s got a Front Row Seat at Debate

political-wire.com

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Jayleia  Sep 23, 2016 • 4:42:00am

re: #120 dangerman

Upon hearing that, I began making preparations for the debate.

Need MOAR!
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 23, 2016 • 4:48:38am

re: #120 dangerman

cudos to whoever here yesterday first suggested this

Mark Cuban’s got a Front Row Seat at Debate

political-wire.com

I’m hoping Cuban makes faces at Trump when the camera is not pointing at Cuban.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 4:54:18am

re: #121 Jayleia

Upon hearing that, I began making preparations for the debate.

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buying popcorn futures or for personal consumption?
i predict a lot of ER visits the night of the debate - “he od’d on popcorn, melt some butter and get the crash cart!”

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 4:56:04am

re: #122 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m hoping Cuban makes faces at Trump when the camera is not pointing at Cuban.

front effing row
and leaking it today to sweat the weekend
that is some multidimensional chess right there

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:09:49am

re: #48 Stanley Sea

We must have 2 parties to maintain this democracy as written. Otherwise we are going to uncharted waters. I don’t wan’t to do that.

Thread Catch Up Reply:

Yep. Our government was created specifically to have a Majority and a Minority party. Even other countries that are democracies/republics that do not have a two party systems, eventually must govern as if they are a two party system. Coalition governments are just multiparty systems turning into a Majority and Minority to govern. We just form the coalitions into our main parties prior to election, instead of post election.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:15:05am
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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:16:58am

re: #125 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Thread Catch Up Reply:

Yep. Our government was created specifically to have a Majority and a Minority party. Even other countries that are democracies/republics that do not have a two party systems, eventually must govern as if they are a two party system. Coalition governments are just multiparty systems turning into a Majority and Minority to govern. We just form the coalitions into our main parties prior to election, instead of post election.

….and therefore if you want to effect change, affect the party
(unless its the other way ‘round)

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sagehen  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:19:58am

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Dr. Matt  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:21:11am

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jeffreyw  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:41:23am

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Good morning!

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Dr. Matt  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:44:32am

re: #130 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Yes, good morning…..

Instagram

@lovvemegs Someone finally understands that you should top your pancakes off with a handful of bacon. #feedyoursoull

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:46:55am

re: #37 Stanley Sea

LOL who was the one that called it??????

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That would be me. That is hilarious.

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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:47:06am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

That time when Glenn Reynolds attacked me for “seeing neo-Nazis behind every bush.”

Guess what? They were really there.

They’ve been there all along. They had been lurking in the shadows, but Trump’s decided that the one group in the nation that’s been lacking a true voice at the highest levels of government and politics are the angry white nativist/nationalist/supremacists, which also includes neo-Nazis.

These are Trump’s most vociferous supporters. They’re the ones who see nothing wrong with Trump’s blatant racism. It’s racism that tinges every policy statement he utters, whether it’s on immigration, or inner city crime.

After all, Trump managed to claim that he’s willing to abrogate the 2A when it comes to inner cities - stripping people of their guns, and the NRA and the GOP didn’t even blink.

Trump explicitly stated he’s coming to take people’s guns away, and the NRA didn’t comment. The GOP and 2A supporters didn’t say a word.

Why?

Because the “right kind” of people would still have their guns. Trump knows his supporters better than the pundits covering him do. He knows that he can take overtly and inherently racist positions without any consequences to his positions.

Take guns away from minorities? No problem. They aren’t viewed in the same light as the white guy stockpiling guns in his basement against government tyranny anyways. You know the ones - like the Bundy militia welfare queens who want to take what belongs to all taxpayers (federal lands) and have it for their own purposes (the Malheur occupation, grazing on federal land without paying basic grazing fees, which are less than what would be paid to private land owners).

Same thing with the 1A; they don’t want to hear about your grievances and outrage over being shot and killed by cops on a regular basis. They want you to protest in a certain way - with respect and dignity without blocking traffic, but don’t you dare try doing it during the national anthem.

All the while, you’ve got the patriots going and aiming their rifles at federal officials (again, Bundy milita) and talking tyranny of government with a straight face.’

These double standards aren’t lost on minorities, nor on most Americans who are repulsed by Trump and his bigot brigade.

Turns out that the deplorables comments turned out to resonate with voters. They can see what Trump has unleashed - it’s always been there, but it’s now out in the open.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:51:09am

re: #133 lawhawk

he’s also targeted the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th, but i’m just piling on

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 5:59:44am

re: #134 dangerman

he’s also targeted the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th, but i’m just piling on

He has targeted the entire concept of Checks and Balances and Separation of Powers.

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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:03:34am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has targeted the entire concept of Checks and Balances and Separation of Powers.

At his core, Trump would gut government. He’s presiding over a party that wants to go all Mola Ram on the role of government.

Temple of Doom’s heart removal scene

He wants to be the one to rip the heart out of govenrment - if you get enough of it failing (particularly by starving it of revenues through massive tax cuts to the wealthy), you can turn around and claim the only fix is massive service cuts.

(Thugee cult reference is absolutely implied).

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Great White Snark  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:14:55am

re: #67 William Lewis

Attention any guitar players here: If you haven’t already (and I feel I must be the last to know of this) you really really really want to watch the docu “It Might Get Loud”. Jimmy Page, The Edge & Jack White talking about and playing, rockingly, electric guitar. Good lord that was amazing. I’m going to need to see it again (and again) and when I digest it, I may be a different player than I was before. Or I may be the same - but more certain of it. Time will tell…

I’m no musician, but that documentary changed how I film documentaries ever since. Great work. It’s one of the best, right up there with Ken Burns work albeit in an almost opposite style.

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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:16:00am
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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:16:32am

Huge, if true.

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sagehen  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:17:51am

re: #134 dangerman

he’s also targeted the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th, but i’m just piling on

They’re also pretty sure that the 10th is only for states that are more conservative than the president and congress, never for states that are more liberal.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:21:23am

re: #139 lawhawk

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Huge, if true.

I wonder if Google will clean up the mess that Twitter has created with the assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:27:26am

re: #140 sagehen

They’re also pretty sure that the 10th is only for states that are more conservative than the president and congress, never for states that are more liberal.

Yes, I seem to recall the Bush Justice Department interfering in Oregon’s physician aided suicide law.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:30:35am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Yes, I seem to recall the Bush Justice Department interfering in Oregon’s physician aided suicide law.

The tenth was probably written so that the government couldn’t prevent states from allowing slavery.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:30:57am

re: #141 Timothy Watson

I wonder if Google will clean up the mess that Twitter has created with the assholes.

As my mother always said, don’t hold your breath.

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:31:02am

re: #133 lawhawk

A conservative yelling “you lie” at the POTUS on the floor of Congress is a-ok, but don’t step off the sidewalk with your sign. Here’s the reality, none of these blm detractors have any respect for the protestors, their rights or their message. Nothing short of dropping dead would appease.
Systemically locking up, suppressing and neglecting entire blocks of the population is finally having consequences that will affect the rest that encouraged this oppression. People are shocked there are uprisings? I ask, what took so long?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:31:13am

re: #124 dangerman

Wish nobody would have known until debate night. Trump walking up on that stage and seeing Cuban there right in the front row would have elicited a great response I bet.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:31:55am

re: #143 Belafon

The tenth was probably written so that the government couldn’t prevent states from allowing slavery.

Probably. A lot of the compromises in the Constitution involved that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:33:51am

re: #145 baski deploribus derpum

A conservative yelling “you lie” at the POTUS on the floor of Congress is a-ok, but don’t step off the sidewalk with your sign. Here’s the reality, none of these blm detractors have any respect for the protestors, their rights or their message. Nothing short of dropping dead would appease.
Systemically locking up, suppressing and neglecting entire blocks of the population is finally having consequences that will affect the rest that encouraged this oppression. People are shocked there are uprisings? I ask, what took so long?

It’s just like they think Kaepernick kneeling during hte National Anthem is the worst thing ever but it’s okay for Trump to outright lie and insult our military. Honestly, I don’t blame people for being pissed. Everytime an unarmed black man gets killed, there’s an attempt by right wingers in politics, the media, and in social media to attempt to rationalize his death.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:35:49am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Everytime an unarmed black man gets killed, there’s an attempt by right wingers in politics, the media, and in social media to attempt to rationalize his death.

That’s only because they know they will get too much blowback if they openly celebrate it.

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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:38:31am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

You have to wonder what all those MoH winners who stood behind Trump during his infomercial at the Trump Hotel in DC were thinking when Trump called the military the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. Or that they were incompetent, especially since many of those MoH winners were standing there during a conflict we didn’t actually win (Vietnam).

In fact, the group included 11 Vietnam veterans, and a two Marines who earned their respective medals for actions in the Korean War (technically a draw) and World War II (win).

It’s just more cognitive dissonance from Trump, and his supporters who only want to hear what they want - and ignore the blatant BS that spews forth hourly from the Trump campaign.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:40:19am

re: #150 lawhawk

It’s just more cognitive dissonance from Trump, and his supporters who only want to hear what they want - and ignore the blatant BS that spews forth hourly from the Trump campaign.

Just like evangelical Christians embracing as one of their own a whoremonger and casino owner who has obviously not ever paid attention to the goings on at any church service he has ever attended (if he ever did outside for publicity purposes)

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:40:21am

I frequently get baited by assholes to talk about the violence in Chicago. I always let them ramble, then I say ” this is shocking to you? Chicago is a giant city with 10 million people with millions of guns and you’re surprised 500 people are killed in a year?” That usually kills the conversation because they don’t really want to talk about violence, they just want another reason to hate on black people.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:41:25am

re: #150 lawhawk

You have to wonder what all those MoH winners who stood behind Trump during his infomercial at the Trump Hotel in DC were thinking when Trump called the military the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. Or that they were incompetent, especially since many of those MoH winners were standing there during a conflict we didn’t actually win (Vietnam).

In fact, the group included 11 Vietnam veterans, and a two Marines who earned their respective medals for actions in the Korean War (technically a draw) and World War II (win).

It’s just more cognitive dissonance from Trump, and his supporters who only want to hear what they want - and ignore the blatant BS that spews forth hourly from the Trump campaign.

Right. It’s kind of like how they claim they support Trump because he’s a straight shooter or a great businessman yet find excuses for when Trump contradicting himself or his failures in business are pointed out. Honestly, so many are just supporting Trump because he speaks to their resentments and they hate Clinton/Obama/Democrats/Liberals because they don’t give them the scapegoat tehy want for their bitterness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:41:38am

re: #152 baski deploribus derpum

I frequently get baited by assholes to talk about the violence in Chicago. I always let them ramble, then I say ” this is shocking to you? Chicago is a giant city with 10 million people with millions of guns and you’re surprised 500 people are killed in a year?” That usually kills the conversation because they don’t really want to talk about violence, they just want another reason to hate on black people.

They like to point out that Chicago has highly restrictive gun laws but do not mention its direct proximity to Indiana with very lax gun laws.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:41:42am

re: #139 lawhawk

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Huge, if true.

$TWTR is up over $22 now. Wonder what Rage Furby did with all that money he (didn’t) make short selling when the price was around $14.

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Great White Snark  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:43:08am

re: #67 William Lewis

I’m no player. I think it’s one of the great documentaries ever. I aspire to get there. Inspiring to editors and film makers too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:44:04am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They like to point out that Chicago has highly restrictive gun laws but do not mention its direct proximity to Indiana with very lax gun laws.

Exactly, our states and cities don’t exist in vacuums.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:45:17am

Look at this Totally-Not-Racist Patriot==>

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:46:32am

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this Totally-Not-Racist Patriot==>

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Yeah Obama stoked racism not the right wing bigots who repeatedly questioned his loyalty and love of our country. Fucking dumbass bigots.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:46:40am

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this Totally-Not-Racist Patriot==>

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Gotta love the Jesus Fish on her avatar.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:47:30am

These people blame Obama and liberals for their own shortcomings when they should e either looking at themselves or the conservative politicians and ideology they blindly support.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:49:38am

I just love seeing “moderates” attempt to say Trump’s rise is Obama’s fault. Really? I didn’t vote for Trump. My party didn’t nominate him and isn’t threatening people who don’t support him strongly with punishment. Trump’s rise is due to the GOP who saw the genuine hatred for the first African-American first family and questioned everything from his American birthright to his love of our country and even accused him of sympathizing with the attackers on Benghazi. Trump’s rise is the GOP’s fault. Make no mistake about it and the attempts by conservative anti-Trumpers to deny their ideology’s role in his rise is almost as bad as Trump himself.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:50:02am

I know he’s a RT Shill now, but there’s something to be said about his analysis and why spend money when the polls seem to be show evaporating leads in key states: Why Hillary Clinton Is In Serious Danger Of Losing To Trump

Instead of mobilizing the Democratic base, it’s spent the past few months rehabilitating Bush-era neocons to try to talk other Republicans out of voting for Trump.

These people were completely discredited over a decade ago, but the Clinton campaign is now giving them new life with ads like this.

If the Clinton campaign thinks ads like that are going to put their candidate in the White House, then they deserve to lose.

That’s because this election, like the 2008 election before it, is a change election — it’s a contest between insiders and outsiders.

So when Clinton shows off the support she has from people like Max Boot, all she does is confirm what people already suspect about her, that she’s an insider who’s way too close with the people who are selling this country down the river.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:54:44am

re: #152 baski deploribus derpum

Many of the guns that are used in crimes come from red states with lax laws. Point that out too.

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gwangung  Sep 23, 2016 • 6:58:08am

re: #163 Eric The Fruit Bat

I know he’s a RT Shill now, but there’s something to be said about his analysis and why spend money when the polls seem to be show evaporating leads in key states: Why Hillary Clinton Is In Serious Danger Of Losing To Trump

I dunno. This emphasizes ads to convert voters. I don’t think that’s how elections work these days; it’s much more a matter of mobilizing your already convinced voters….and we know money is already going to GOTV. These ads and these approaches are not meant for the committed voters and will not turn off those voters.

This kind of analysis treats voters as maybe one or two segments when in reality they’re dozens of segments out there. (Not to mention that it relies on some shaky empirical evidence that is already shifting back to her).

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:03:54am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has targeted the entire concept of Checks and Balances and Separation of Powers.

well if youre gonna be picky….

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:04:27am
Virginia’s Attorney General Mark Herring and 35 other attorneys general are going after Chesterfield County-based Indivior for allegedly making intentional changes to Suboxone, a drug used to treat opioid addictions, in order to monopolize the market and prevent competition from a generic drug.

The antitrust lawsuit, filed today, accuses Indivior - formerly known as Reckitt Benckiser Pharmaceuticals - of “product hopping,” or intentionally changing the product to prevent generic versions from entering the market.

“This allowed Reckitt to maintain its monopoly over the product and get higher monopoly profits from its sales,” a news release from Herring’s office states.

Since 2009, annual sales of Suboxone topped $1 billion, the release continues.

The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern Division of Pennsylvania

richmond.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:05:16am

re: #167 Timothy Watson

richmond.com

I like AG Herring.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:06:45am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I like AG Herring.

I, honestly, wish he was running for Governor. Northam seems a little…weak.

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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:07:48am

It’s the Party of Trump now:

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:08:46am

re: #136 lawhawk

At his core, Trump would gut government. He’s presiding over a party that wants to go all Mola Ram on the role of government.

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He wants to be the one to rip the heart out of govenrment - if you get enough of it failing (particularly by starving it of revenues through massive tax cuts to the wealthy), you can turn around and claim the only fix is massive service cuts.

(Thugee cult reference is absolutely implied).

i sometimes wonder if hes that calculating or if hes just “biggest job in the world, i think i can actually get it so i want it” and then using it in any/every way possible for personal enrichment

iow - nothing more than a power hungry covetous thief

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Dr. Matt  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:09:45am

Deplorable Trump cultist wants an investigation as why Obama wasn’t in the Oval Office on 9/11.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:10:09am

re: #165 gwangung

I dunno. This emphasizes ads to convert voters. I don’t think that’s how elections work these days; it’s much more a matter of mobilizing your already convinced voters….and we know money is already going to GOTV. These ads and these approaches are not meant for the committed voters and will not turn off those voters.

This kind of analysis treats voters as maybe one or two segments when in reality they’re dozens of segments out there. (Not to mention that it relies on some shaky empirical evidence that is already shifting back to her).

If you mean to convert large numbers of people away from voting for Trump-like candidates, kindergarten is too late to start.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:10:12am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

It’s just like they think Kaepernick kneeling during hte National Anthem is the worst thing ever but it’s okay for Trump to outright lie and insult our military. Honestly, I don’t blame people for being pissed. Everytime an unarmed black man gets killed, there’s an attempt by right wingers in politics, the media, and in social media to attempt to rationalize his death.

what these people dont seem to get is trum is outright lying and insulting them. if they dont get that, well then theyll follow along with anything he says

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:11:09am

re: #172 Dr. Matt

Deplorable Trump cultist wants an investigation as why Obama wasn’t in the Oval Office on 9/11.

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A time traveling Obama in the Oval Office in 2001 would have created one hell of a Constitutional crisis.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:11:27am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:12:23am

I got my absentee ballot yesterday by email. :D

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:13:23am

re: #169 Timothy Watson

I, honestly, wish he was running for Governor. Northam seems a little…weak.

I like Northam but I agree.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:13:58am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They like to point out that Chicago has highly restrictive gun laws but do not mention its direct proximity to Indiana with very lax gun laws.

proximity? what does that matter? that doesnt mean anything unless you can also tie it to use of cars, trucks, roads, bridges, boats etc. you “literally” have to explain what it means and why, and even then….

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:15:05am

re: #156 Great White Snark

I’m no player. I think it’s one of the great documentaries ever. I aspire to get there. Inspiring to editors and film makers too.

i would love to be a maker of music. if only hands could do what i hear in my head…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:16:30am

re: #180 dangerman

i would love to be a maker of music. if only hands could do what i hear in my head…

I feel the same way about creative writing. Got so many thoughts but am not the best at articulating them.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:18:15am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

These people blame Obama and liberals for their own shortcomings when they should e either looking at themselves or the conservative politicians and ideology they blindly support.

21:16 in olbermanns interview video

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:20:03am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

I just love seeing “moderates” attempt to say Trump’s rise is Obama’s fault. Really? I didn’t vote for Trump. My party didn’t nominate him and isn’t threatening people who don’t support him strongly with punishment. Trump’s rise is due to the GOP who saw the genuine hatred for the first African-American first family and questioned everything from his American birthright to his love of our country and even accused him of sympathizing with the attackers on Benghazi. Trump’s rise is the GOP’s fault. Make no mistake about it and the attempts by conservative anti-Trumpers to deny their ideology’s role in his rise is almost as bad as Trump himself.

if only my mother had raised a presidential aspirant. trumps rise is all her fault

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:21:07am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

. Trump’s rise is due to the GOP who saw the genuine hatred for the first African-American first family and questioned everything from his American birthright to his love of our country and even accused him of sympathizing with the attackers on Benghazi. Trump’s rise is the GOP’s fault.

The GOP made no attempt to call out or at least distance themselves from rabid racists screaming “Obama is a Kenyan Muslim!” and “Obama is the Antichrist!”, so it is natural that these people would then turn to a candidate who openly embraced these sentiments.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:23:05am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP made no attempt to call out or at least distance themselves from rabid racists screaming “Obama is a Kenyan Muslim!” and “Obama is the Antichrist!”, so it is natural that these people would then turn to a candidate who openly embraced these sentiments.

Yep, that’s pretty much what Earnest was saying.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:24:38am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP made no attempt to call out or at least distance themselves from rabid racists screaming “Obama is a Kenyan Muslim!” and “Obama is the Antichrist!”, so it is natural that these people would then turn to a candidate who openly embraced these sentiments.

If you throw a bunch of pepper seeds on the ground, you should not be surprised to find your yard full of pepper plants a few months later.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:26:42am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

I like Northam but I agree.

I don’t know that much about him. He was running against E.W. Jackson, so I didn’t need much more reason to vote for him, so I didn’t learn as much about him as the other people on the Democratic ticket in 2013.

I also worry that the party might repeat the Creigh Deeds mistake of nominating someone with no name recognition in northern Virginia.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:28:13am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

I feel the same way about creative writing. Got so many thoughts but am not the best at articulating them.

yes writing as well
sometimes i reflect that writing is “only” pen and paper, or screen and keyboard. so why cant i make it come out ‘right’

didnt help that for some reason, when i was younger, i got saddled with the idea that everything great i read, prose, poetry, fiction, news, commentary came out that way the first time. nothing like editing, revisions, agonizing over changes (research!), etc. its a ludicrous standard.

it spilled over into writing software - debug? nah - it’s perfect the first time. when i started writing procedures manuals i latched onto an average of three revisions and then usually its done. some kinda growth on my part

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:28:27am

Honestly, the GOP power structure I find more deplorable than the base. The base for better lack of a word is really not informed. See that guy who actually wonders why Obama wasn’t in the Oval Office on 9-11 or Republicans polled that blame Obama for things that happened in the Bush years. The GOP power structure OTOH knows the truth but they know that their based is full of ignorant bigots so instead of leveling with them truthfully, they make things worse by continuing to lie about President Obama and liberalism as a whole. And then are their allies in the media like Limbaugh, Hannity, and others.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:29:14am

re: #187 Timothy Watson

I don’t know that much about him. He was running against E.W. Jackson, so I didn’t need much more reason to vote for him, so I didn’t learn as much about him as the other people on the Democratic ticket in 2013.

I also worry that the party might repeat the Creigh Deeds mistake of nominating someone with no name recognition in northern Virginia.

That’s a good point. Really don’t want Creigh Deeds 2.0. IT’s too bad. I liked Deeds. Seemed like a nice enough guy but he ran an awful campaign against McDonnell.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:30:57am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP made no attempt to call out or at least distance themselves from rabid racists screaming “Obama is a Kenyan Muslim!” and “Obama is the Antichrist!”, so it is natural that these people would then turn to a candidate who openly embraced these sentiments.

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Yep, that’s pretty much what Earnest was saying.

that plus they dont have a positive, forward looking vision. they only stop, obstruct, and wrench up the good works of others

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:31:28am

Someone at The Federalist has a conniption about… Zach Galifianakis’s dereliction of journalistic duty:

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Alyosha  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:32:19am

Hey, HW, that Hitler bio you were reading a few months back; it was the Ian Kershaw volume, no?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:32:39am

re: #192 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Someone at The Federalist has a conniption about… Zach Galifianakis’s dereliction of journalistic duty:

Please tell me this is a parody account…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:33:02am

To me and I see it a lot since one of my good friends is right wing but it seems to me so much of what modern conservatism is about is resentments. It’s resentment towards people different. Whether they’re welfare recipients, immigrants, transgendered, or whatever. That seems to be what the unifying thought in right wing mindset. It doesn’t matter how old the right winger is. Right wing millenials are just as resentful as their boomer parents or their grandparents.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:33:20am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

That’s a good point. Really don’t want Creigh Deeds 2.0. IT’s too bad. I liked Deeds. Seemed like a nice enough guy but he ran an awful campaign against McDonnell.

Yep, Deeds is a smart guy and I’ve heard good things about him (a former local government person I know talked about how knowledgeable and helpful he was when the person was trying to get some state funding), but man his campaign that year.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:33:25am

re: #189 HappyWarrior

The GOP power structure OTOH knows the truth but they know that their based is full of ignorant bigots so instead of leveling with them truthfully, they make things worse by continuing to lie about President Obama and liberalism as a whole

its how they get those folks to keep voting for them

the truth would destroy their system

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:34:48am

re: #192 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Someone at The Federalist has a conniption about… Zach Galifianakis’s dereliction of journalistic duty:

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is that the onion doing the federalist doing the onion?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:34:55am

re: #192 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Someone at The Federalist has a conniption about… Zach Galifianakis’s dereliction of journalistic duty:

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Snicker. That’s funny right there.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:36:07am

re: #163 Eric The Fruit Bat

I know he’s a RT Shill now, but there’s something to be said about his analysis and why spend money when the polls seem to be show evaporating leads in key states: Why Hillary Clinton Is In Serious Danger Of Losing To Trump

I saw a great term for the last two weeks: The Great Tightening. It’s happened most recent elections, and then things widen out, as they are doing now. The race is close because Hillary’s the Clinton the Republicans have been going after for 25 years and she’s about to be the first woman elected president, on the heels of the first black president, which means the Democrats will have the presidency for at least 12 years straight. But, even after all that, Trump isn’t ahead.

Don’t panic, GOTV.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:37:22am

re: #196 Timothy Watson

Yep, Deeds is a smart guy and I’ve heard good things about him (a former local government person I know talked about how knowledgeable and helpful he was when the person was trying to get some state funding), but man his campaign that year.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:37:50am

re: #192 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Someone at The Federalist has a conniption about… Zach Galifianakis’s dereliction of journalistic duty:

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note also how they started with “felon” and then landed on mere “dishonest overtones”

scathingly specific charges those

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:39:18am

re: #192 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Someone at The Federalist has a conniption about… Zach Galifianakis’s dereliction of journalistic duty:

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The only “incompetent felon” running for office is Herr Trumpenfuhrer.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:39:36am

re: #202 dangerman

note also how they started with “felon” and then landed on mere “dishonest overtones”

scathingly specific charges those

Maybe I’m a mere guy with a paralegal certificate but one has to be convicted of a felony to be well a felon. But hey let’s act like the guy whose most famous character didn’t know that roothies knock you out has to be a tough journalist. Fun fact though about Zach, his uncle ran against Jesse Helms in the early 70’s for Senate.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:40:27am

You now the Federalist never complains when Sean Hannity dips his balls in Trump’s mouth and asks him how great he is.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:43:42am

re: #200 Belafon

governors, statesmen, senators, true conservatives, and their supporters —-

theyre all fuming because they cant accept how “humiliating” and “insulting” it is to first lose to obama and then lose to a woman (that woman)

its rage lashing out borne of publicly displayed impotence

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:44:31am

When you argue face to face with a wingnut its best not to feed them ammunition for their ditto points. If I bring up Indiana’s lax gun laws, it tees them up for the derpsplosion of “duh, yeah that’s why gun laws don’t work”.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:47:50am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Maybe I’m a mere guy with a paralegal certificate but one has to be convicted of a felony to be well a felon. But hey let’s act like the guy whose most famous character didn’t know that roothies knock you out has to be a tough journalist. Fun fact though about Zach, his uncle ran against Jesse Helms in the early 70’s for Senate.

i agree on “felon” vs “felon”
otoh - there’s only one candidate who is currently on trial for fraud
(has clinton ever been? actual trial for anything?)

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:47:57am

re: #167 Timothy Watson

Sooo, all of their I’ll gotten profits will be confiscated I’m sure?

/sarcasm

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:48:15am

re: #207 baski deploribus derpum

When you argue face to face with a wingnut its best not to feed them ammunition for their ditto points. If I bring up Indiana’s lax gun laws, it tees them up for the derpsplosion of “duh, yeah that’s why gun laws don’t work”.

Saw my friend use Brazil’s gun laws as proof that gun laws don’t work while ignoring hte UK.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:48:49am

re: #208 dangerman

i agree on “felon” vs “felon”
otoh - there’s only one candidate who is currently on trial for fraud
(has clinton ever been? actual trial for anything?)

That’s true as well. And no I don’t believe she has.

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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:48:51am

re: #207 baski deploribus derpum

Gun laws are only as good as the weakest state laws. So, if there’s a state that turns a blind eye to enforcing the laws on its books, and basically pays lip service to gun sales, that’s where people will go for straw sales and obtain guns there for resale elsewhere - illegally, or directly used in crimes.

NYC, which has strong gun laws, has far lower crime rates than other major cities - having states with strong gun laws in close proximity helps, but a major percentage of the guns recovered from crimes have been traced to out of state sellers - down the Iron Pipeline (PA, VA, Carolinas, GA, etc).

Chicago has a similar Iron Pipeline.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:49:12am

re: #207 baski deploribus derpum

When you argue face to face with a wingnut its best not to feed them ammunition for their ditto points. If I bring up Indiana’s lax gun laws, it tees them up for the derpsplosion of “duh, yeah that’s why gun laws don’t work”.

and why consistently applied uniform laws might

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:49:48am

re: #213 dangerman

States rights!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:50:11am

re: #213 dangerman

and why consistently applied uniform laws might

Which is my problem with the states rights argument. Our states aren’t vaccums. They are with the exception of Hawaii and Alaska all connected to another in some way in a geographic seven degrees of Kevin Bacon sort of way.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:51:19am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Which is my problem with the states rights argument. Our states aren’t vaccums. They are with the exception of Hawaii and Alaska all connected to another in some way in a geographic seven degrees of Kevin Bacon sort of way.

an op-ed
“What Kevin Bacon has to do with gun laws”

I’m on it

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:52:41am

re: #216 dangerman

an op-ed
“What Kevin Bacon has to do with gun laws”

I’m on it

Heh. Take that from being a Virginian. I think we border among the most states in the Union. I always thought it was absurd that people used D.C’s gun laws as proof that the laws don’t work while ignoring that you can literally walk to D.C from parts of Virginia pretty easily.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:53:33am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Which is my problem with the states rights argument. Our states aren’t vaccums. They are with the exception of Hawaii and Alaska all connected to another in some way in a geographic seven degrees of Kevin Bacon sort of way.

I remember when states had different drinking ages. So when we turned 18 in Northwest Indiana, we all drove 50 miles across the border to Michigan to drink. When we turned nineteen, it was only thirty miles across the border into Illinois.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:57:20am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember when states had different drinking ages. So when we turned 18 in Northwest Indiana, we all drove 50 miles across the border to Michigan to drink. When we turned nineteen, it was only thirty miles across the border into Illinois.

Yeah I think that was quite common back then. Wouldn’t be surprised if today people from Va/Md cross into DC to get marijuana.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:58:12am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Funny Virginia story from back in the day:

Though a car/bus trip across the Route 301 bridge was convenient, gambling operators quickly identified a way to attract customers to Maryland slot machines without requiring a trip completely across the Potomac River. Gambling barges and shacks were located at the end of piers which stretched from the Virginia shoreline into the river, barely reaching across the Maryland-Virginia border.

Piers in King George County at Fairview Beach, and in Prince William County at Leesylvania, were connected to gambling boats that technically were in Charles County, Maryland. There were three waterfront gambling opportunities in Westmoreland County at the Town of Colonial Beach, Muse’s Beach at the mouth of Pope’s Creek, and at Coles Point.

The Coles Point Tavern in Westmoreland County was licensed by St. Mary’s County. All other waterfront gambling operations with piers connected to the Virginia shoreline were licensed by Charles County officials. In addition to the entertainment of slot machines, the Maryland establishments offered liquor by the drink, which was also against the law in Virginia.3

Five casinos operated at Colonial Beach, the Little Reno, Jackpot, Monte Carlo, New Atlanta, and Little Steel Pier. Guy Lombardo once attracted crowds to the Reno, which had a large dance floor in addition to over 300 slot machines. Slot machines were delivered by boat, staying within Maryland rather than using Virginia roads, to avoid violating the Johnson Act.

When high waves generated by Hurricane Hazel threatened a pier at Colonial Beach in 1954, the valuable machines could not be brought onshore for fear of confiscation by Virginia authorities. Instead, the slot machines were lowered by rope and pulley to another casino nearby, though three of them broke loose and were lost. The pier collapsed just half an hour after the salvage operation was completed.4

virginiaplaces.org

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:58:24am

I like to target the heart of the wingnut rather than appeal to his “rationality”. He loves his guns. Fine. His love has consequences, and if he can be forced on record by appealing to his bigotry that’s how I go. Like I said proir, I don’t go looking to the wingnut, they usually just belch forth stupidity at me. In my youth I would talk til I was blue in the face trying to convince with facts, etc. Don’t work.

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:59:57am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I grew up in Milwaukee. I had a bar tab at 15, we all did. It was one of the reasons I got a job at 16. :D

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 7:59:59am

its interesting how state by state behavior works

drinking, pot, guns and the like - if you have the money or ability you can get what you want. if you dont, i guess what’s the real loss - you dont get to underage drink out of state…

abortion and no money to travel. out of luck

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:01:07am

re: #221 baski deploribus derpum

I like to target the heart of the wingnut rather than appeal to his “rationality”. He loves his guns. Fine. His love has consequences, and if he can be forced on record by appealing to his bigotry that’s how I go. Like I said proir, I don’t go looking to the wingnut, they usually just belch forth stupidity at me. In my youth I would talk til I was blue in the face trying to convince with facts, etc. Don’t work.

Yeah I don’t even engage with political discussion with my one friend. He’s made up his mind. To be honest, I could deal with it if he could just take a break from it once and a while.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:02:21am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t even engage with political discussion with my one friend. He’s made up his mind. To be honest, I could deal with it if he could just take a break from it once and a while.

I caught up with an old buddy from high school on FB, but after having one look at all the pro-gun, anti-Obama/Hillary postings on his timeline, just dropped it and did not bother friending him.

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:03:38am

re: #222 baski deploribus derpum

I grew up in Milwaukee. I had a bar tab at 15, we all did. It was one of the reasons I got a job at 16. :D

Heh. I grew up in Eau Claire. The night after my 18th birthday I went to the bar and the owner was sitting in his barber’s chair at the entrance checking everyone’s ID - the cop’s had apparently been pissy the night before. He checks the 70something dude ahead of me and I hand him my license. He looks at it, looks up at me, looks at the ID again and throws it back at me - You SOB! he yells, laughing. I’d only been a regular there for over 2 years…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:13:26am

re: #226 William Lewis

Heh. I grew up in Eau Claire. The night after my 18th birthday I went to the bar and the owner was sitting in his barber’s chair at the entrance checking everyone’s ID - the cop’s had apparently been pissy the night before. He checks the 70something dude ahead of me and I hand him my license. He looks at it, looks up at me, looks at the ID again and throws it back at me - You SOB! he yells, laughing. I’d only been a regular there for over 2 years…

Did you get a free drink, birthday boy?

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LastYearsMan  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:13:45am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Yeah, it’s pretty classic. I see it a lot on my FB.

GOP nutter: Maybe I’ll stick this fork into this electrical outlet.

Normal person: Don’t do that. You’ll get shocked. Might die.

GN: How do you know? I bet it’s fine.

NP: No, seriously, it’s dangerous and stupid.

GN: How dare you call me stupid! I’m going to stick two forks into two outlets!

<zap zap>

GN: Ow! That was your fault!

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:19:54am

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Did you get a free drink, birthday boy?

TOo many. My friends fed me rum & coke that night & that’s the first time I ever got sick drunk, oof. My dad got done working at midnight and gave me a ride home - I hung my head out the van’s window and ralphed the whole way home to his cackling laughter.

My parents were kind enough to call me in as “sick” to school the next morning and just let me sleep it off.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:19:57am

re: #228 LastYearsMan

Stick a fork in an electrical outlet. What have you got to lose?

Turn on the gas, wait a half hour. Light a match. What have you got to lose?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:20:06am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I enjoyed lots of it, but The Edge is a really, really boring guy when he is not playing.

There’s another video of The Edge asking about his guitar playing, of which I’ve been a fan, and he basically has to ask his guitar guy “how do I get that sound?” Then his guy runs around stomping on stuff. The Edge, to his credit, in the doc you guys are referencing basically says ‘if you strip away the effects I’m just playing an A-chord and a D-chord.’

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Timothy Watson  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:22:22am

re: #229 William Lewis

TOo many. My friends fed me rum & coke that night & that’s the first time I ever got sick drunk, oof. My dad got done working at midnight and gave me a ride home - I hung my head out the van’s window and ralphed the whole way home to his cackling laughter.

My parents were kind enough to call me in as “sick” to school the next morning and just let me sleep it off.

I remember cleaning up my older brother’s vomit the night/morning after he turned 18.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:22:26am

re: #231 Barefoot Grin

There’s another video of The Edge asking about his guitar playing, of which I’ve been a fan, and he basically has to ask his guitar guy “how do I get that sound?” Then his guy runs around stomping on stuff. The Edge, to his credit, in the doc you guys are referencing basically says ‘if you strip away the effects I’m just playing an A-chord and a D-chord.’

He also borrowed the sound heavily from Phil Manzanera…just listen to his guitar stuff on Brian Eno’s “Here Come The Warm Jets”.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:23:15am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember when states had different drinking ages. So when we turned 18 in Northwest Indiana, we all drove 50 miles across the border to Michigan to drink. When we turned nineteen, it was only thirty miles across the border into Illinois.

It was 18 in Urbana, Il and 19 in the twin city of Champaign.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:23:19am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:23:30am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He also borrowed the sound heavily from Phil Manzanera…just listen to his guitar stuff on Brian Eno’s “Here Come The Warm Jets”.

Oh yeah!

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:24:01am

re: #231 Barefoot Grin

There’s another video of The Edge asking about his guitar playing, of which I’ve been a fan, and he basically has to ask his guitar guy “how do I get that sound?” Then his guy runs around stomping on stuff. The Edge, to his credit, in the doc you guys are referencing basically says ‘if you strip away the effects I’m just playing an A-chord and a D-chord.’

Which was one of the revelations to me - I enjoyed seeing how each of the three went about getting their “signature” sound. I also really enjoyed hearing the origins of several of the songs they’re each famous for. For example, I didn’t realize that The Edge came up with the Sunday Bloody Sunday riff as I’d always thought it was a Bono song.

Going back to their school room in Belfast was a trip too.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:24:35am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:25:21am

re: #237 William Lewis

Which was one of the revelations to me - I enjoyed seeing how each of the three went about getting their “signature” sound. I also really enjoyed hearing the origins of several of the songs they’re each famous for. For example, I didn’t realize that The Edge came up with the Sunday Bloody Sunday riff as I’d always thought it was a Bono song.

Going back to their school room in Belfast was a trip too.

Agree. Now I want to see it again. It was fun going back with all three of them. I had no idea about Jack’s Detroit upbringing either.

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dangerman  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:27:47am

re: #230 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Stick a fork in an electrical outlet. What have you got to lose?

Turn on the gas, wait a half hour. Light a match. What have you got to lose?

“hold my beer and watch this”

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:27:58am

re: #239 Barefoot Grin

Agree. Now I want to see it again. It was fun going back with all three of them. I had no idea about Jack’s Detroit upbringing either.

Oh, yeah. Made his music make a whole lot more sense to me. I’d still not call myself a big fan but I have a whole lot more understanding and respect for him now. Reminded me of how much I enjoyed The Raconteurs though.

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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:28:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:37:53am

re: #241 William Lewis

Oh, yeah. Made [Jack White’s] music make a whole lot more sense to me. I’d still not call myself a big fan but I have a whole lot more understanding and respect for him now. Reminded me of how much I enjoyed The Raconteurs though.

I gained an appreciation for his aesthetic sense, which goes far beyond the music.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:40:12am

I missed this part: The Clinton campaign invited him to the debate (h/t Daily Kos):

Mark Cuban, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, was invited by the Clinton campaign to sit in the front row at Monday night’s debate.

“Just got a front row seat to watch @HillaryClinton overwhelm @realDonaldTrump at the “Humbling at Hofstra” on Monday,” Cuban tweeted. “It Is On!”

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BeachDem  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:46:23am

re: #171 dangerman

i sometimes wonder if hes that calculating or if hes just “biggest job in the world, i think i can actually get it so i want it” and then using it in any/every way possible for personal enrichment

iow - nothing more than a power hungry covetous thief

Like his buddy, Omarosa said:

“Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump. It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Donald, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.”

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BeachDem  Sep 23, 2016 • 8:51:20am

re: #192 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Someone at The Federalist has a conniption about… Zach Galifianakis’s dereliction of journalistic duty:

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Aside from the total lack of understanding of humor/satire/life in general, when did Clinton become a felon?


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