Friday Night Jam: Joe Bonamassa, “Distant Lonesome Train”

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Jam packed with filthy licks and driven by a mean, iron riff, Joe Bonamassa’s latest music video from his Blues of Desperation album is infused with the spirit of blues rock. Haunting, almost mystical imagery contrasts with the earthier, starkly realistic vision of the distant lonesome train. “Her spirit calls me / from the barren ground / On that distant lonesome train”. All aboard.

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280 comments

1
I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 23, 2016 • 9:11:11pm

Hello from Brooklyn

Awesome song for a Fri night.

2
Jenner7  Sep 23, 2016 • 9:23:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 23, 2016 • 9:26:33pm

How hard is it to read the last two days of someone’s timeline to see if they deserve the shitty fucking allegation you’re leveling at them?

4
VegasGolfer  Sep 23, 2016 • 9:42:03pm

Link
Mike DiKKKa sharing some deep thoughts.

“Anybody who disrespects this country and the flag, if they don’t like our flag then get the hell out,”

South Park - If you don’t like….get out! (season 7, episode 4 )

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Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2016 • 9:42:37pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

I encountered this same person a while back and she pulled the same crap on me. She (if it really is a woman) ended up blocking me after a tirade that was just as wrong-headed as the one she directed at you.

No point trying to engage with people like this. They’re either playing some kind of weird duplicitous game or they’re not right in the head, and it’s not worth the effort to figure out which.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 23, 2016 • 9:49:37pm

Like clockwork. Past criminal record unearthed in an effort to give the cops a pass for the execution of Crutcher.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 23, 2016 • 9:51:39pm
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Jenner7  Sep 23, 2016 • 9:55:21pm

CNN is now covering it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:03:27pm

re: #6 GlutenFreeJesus

Like clockwork. Past criminal record unearthed in an effort to give the cops a pass for the execution of Crutcher.

And Keith Scott had a criminal past, so the cops shooting him apparently is totally justified.

“He was no angel…” is not justification for killing a man.

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:09:00pm

O_o

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retired cynic  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:10:43pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

O_o

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At least there’s an open mind. <G>

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:20:54pm

attn: ggt

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:25:53pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

And Keith Scott had a criminal past, so the cops shooting him apparently is totally justified.

“He was no angel…” is not justification for killing a man.

And I hate being reminded every fucking day that I’m forced to associate with people who feel that way.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:36:43pm

Non-Hispanic White incarceration 450 per 100,000
Black incarceration 2,306 per 100,000

en.wikipedia.org
bravenewfilms.org
usatoday.com

Something for the DoJ to fix, assuming there is a functioning DoJ next year.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:38:35pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

“They should just stop breaking the law.”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:40:31pm

re: #15 GlutenFreeJesus

“They should just stop breaking the law.”

Differences in enforcement start in pre-school.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:45:07pm
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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:48:42pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

Differences in enforcement start in pre-school.

Yep. Though in Madison, WI it gets worse when you hit middle school. See they have this nice big relatively new Juvie facility and they hate to see empty beds there < spit >. So what might have been an in house suspension in 5th grade is an automatic arrest in 6th grade. Only time that upset people was when a pretty white blond girl was arrested instead of a minority. But that just got her sprung; the process remains the same from what I have heard.

But that was why we moved north to Hayward when we did. Better psych care (yep, up here in the boonies) and much saner school systems. He’s actually getting the cares he needs unlike what would have happened if we’d been typical parents and stayed in Madison.

And yet my priest still lays awake at night worrying for his 2 sons - brothers now 13 adopted from Sierra Leon - even here.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:57:16pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

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Decatur Deb  Sep 23, 2016 • 10:58:11pm

re: #18 William Lewis

Yep. Though in Madison, WI it gets worse when you hit middle school. See they have this nice big relatively new Juvie facility and they hate to see empty beds there < spit >. So what might have been an in house suspension in 5th grade is an automatic arrest in 6th grade. Only time that upset people was when a pretty white blond girl was arrested instead of a minority. But that just got her sprung; the process remains the same from what I have heard.

But that was why we moved north to Hayward when we did. Better psych care (yep, up here in the boonies) and much saner school systems. He’s actually getting the cares he needs unlike what would have happened if we’d been typical parents and stayed in Madison.

And yet my priest still lays awake at night worrying for his 2 sons - brothers now 13 adopted from Sierra Leon - even here.

At least it doesn’t sound like Juvie is privatized/for-profit. We’ve had some success (mostly SPLC) getting multi-million dollar sharks out of Alabama’s probation industry.

It’s 0100, so I’m not going to research it, but I’ve seen a plausible claim that more black men are held in slavery today than in 1863. Check the XIII Amendment wording.

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majii  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:01:57pm

re: #15 GlutenFreeJesus

“They should just stop breaking the law.”

As I’ve mentioned here before, there are certain neighborhoods in my Middle GA city that I can enter and someone living there would immediately dial 911. I’m a retired high school teacher who has never been arrested for any reason, but I’m black and to some, my appearance in an area where they don’t think I “belong” is reason enough to call the cops on me. I’m sure there are some Americans who don’t believe this still happens, but it does. I clearly recall two instances over the past few years in which someone called the police on famous former athletes because they’re black. What never seems to enter these persons’ minds is that some blacks are just as terrified of them as some of them are of us. In some cases, it’s a two-way street. I think that those who claim to be afraid of blahs don’t really see us, but the color of our skin, as an automatic threat to them. SMDH at such nonsense.

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:02:03pm

Yeah, it is that late. Good night all.

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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:03:55pm

Well, that explains why the CMPD are dragging their feet on releasing the video. Gov. Pat “ZOMG, THE TOBACCO’S FLOODED!” McCrory signed a law earlier this year that takes effect Oct 1, requiring a court order for the release of any police camera footage. So the CMPD’s trying to run out the clock, forcing the Scott family to go to court just to get the footage released.

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:08:15pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:08:35pm

re: #21 majii

“They should just stop breaking the law.”

As I’ve mentioned here before, there are certain neighborhoods in my Middle GA city that I can enter and someone living there would immediately dial 911. I’m a retired high school teacher who has never been arrested for any reason, but I’m black and to some, my appearance in an area where they don’t think I “belong” is reason enough to call the cops on me. I’m sure there are some Americans who don’t believe this still happens, but it does. I clearly recall two instances over the past few years in which someone called the police on famous former athletes because they’re black. What never seems to enter these persons’ minds is that some blacks are just as terrified of them as some of them are of us. In some cases, it’s a two-way street. I think that those who claim to be afraid of blahs don’t really see us, but the color of our skin, as an automatic threat to them. SMDH at such nonsense.

There was a momentarily-famous episode in the ’60s/’70s when a group of African UN diplomats were refused service in a confederate states restaurant. (Might have been Lester Maddox before he became governor.) The chicken-slinging proprietor explained it concisely: “I thought they were ordinary n******s.”

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Mich-again  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:08:53pm

Joe Bonamassa or Stevie Ray Vaughn?

Dang that’s a tough one. As amazing a guitar player that Stevie Ray was, I think Joe B might be even a little bit better.

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majii  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:11:38pm

re: #18 William Lewis

“And yet my priest still lays awake at night worrying for his 2 sons - brothers now 13 adopted from Sierra Leon - even here.”

I think he has reason to worry because he’s probably read about how young men of color aren’t considered to be kids, even if they’re only 9 and 10 years of age. That’s the double standard many in law enforcement use when it comes to “policing” kids. How anyone can consider a black or Hispanic/Latino kid under the age of 15 to be an adult is beyond my ability to understand, and I guess it’s because my students were ages 13/14 to 18. No way did I ever think of any of them as adults, but our society has created and promoted the belief that kids of color are very dangerous when the majority of them are not. I have a daughter who lives with her white fiance in Alabama, and I worry about her everyday because I know how some in the South look at interracial relationships. He wanted her to move there, but before she did, I made it clear to him that I expect him to defend her if some nut decides to harass her because she’s black and is in a relationship with a white male. I’m not a violent person, but if someone harms my kid, I’m going looking for that person, and I’m going to do whatever I have to do to insure s/he is prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows for the crime committed against her because she doesn’t bother anybody, and I taught her to mind her own business all of the time.

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:13:07pm

re: #21 majii

I’m glad I know you. {{{majii}}}

My father is still teaching (he’s 67). It’s expensive to keep a house 30 miles away from *world class skiing* but my pops perseveres. And he loves his job. He teaches American History.

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No Depression  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:14:29pm

re: #21 majii

“They should just stop breaking the law.”

As I’ve mentioned here before, there are certain neighborhoods in my Middle GA city that I can enter and someone living there would immediately dial 911. I’m a retired high school teacher who has never been arrested for any reason, but I’m black and to some, my appearance in an area where they don’t think I “belong” is reason enough to call the cops on me. I’m sure there are some Americans who don’t believe this still happens, but it does. I clearly recall two instances over the past few years in which someone called the police on famous former athletes because they’re black. What never seems to enter these persons’ minds is that some blacks are just as terrified of them as some of them are of us. In some cases, it’s a two-way street. I think that those who claim to be afraid of blahs don’t really see us, but the color of our skin, as an automatic threat to them. SMDH at such nonsense.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 23, 2016 • 11:15:50pm

re: #27 majii

“And yet my priest still lays awake at night worrying for his 2 sons - brothers now 13 adopted from Sierra Leon - even here.”

I think he has reason to worry because he’s probably read about how young men of color aren’t considered to be kids, even if they’re only 9 and 10 years of age. That’s the double standard many in law enforcement use when it comes to “policing” kids. How anyone can consider a black or Hispanic/Latino kid under the age of 15 to be an adult is beyond my ability to understand, ….

Once more, I’m too tired to dig for it, but there are hard social psych studies that show that white cops, (or perhaps Whites in general) add about 3 years to the estimated age of photos of Black kids.

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austin_blue  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:03:52am

re: #2 Jenner7

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Good Dog it’s Mark Cuban!

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teleskiguy  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:12:46am

This gal is a friend of mine, met her at Red Rocks during an Umphrey’s McGee show four years ago.

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freetoken  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:21:45am

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:24:12am

re: #32 teleskiguy

This gal is a friend of mine, met her at Red Rocks during an Umphrey’s McGee show four years ago.

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So is this setting up the argument: “So what if Trump’s a paid agent of the Kremlin? He’s President either way. Facts don’t matter at this point.”?

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teleskiguy  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:25:28am

re: #34 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So is this setting up the argument: “So what if Trump’s a paid agent of the Kremlin? He’s President either way. Facts don’t matter at this point.”?

Yeah, something like that.

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teleskiguy  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:26:24am
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:31:08am

How do you respond to this much stupid?
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freetoken  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:32:20am

A week or so ago I posted a video of a young Mario Bauza. Here he is with his band (and guests) later in life:

Mario Bauza & His Afro-Cuban Jazz Orchestra - Leverkusener Jazztage 1992

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freetoken  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:33:21am

re: #37 Ace-o-aces

I.e., geomancy…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:36:56am

re: #37 Ace-o-aces

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How do you respond to this much stupid?

Burlington is “in Seattle” now? Who knew?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:38:49am

re: #39 freetoken

I.e., geomancy…

Aren’t we supposed to call Geomancy “Feng Shui” now? I thought maybe Geomancy became insulting, like “Oriental”.

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freetoken  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:41:26am

re: #41 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It is intended to be a pun, given the word has a couple of denotations, both of which fit Drumpfskind and his movement.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:51:09am

So anyway, we always stop at one of the many fast food joints around the Cascade Mall for a bathroom break on the way up to Bellingham—and to get a drink to get started on the next one. Spooky.

I always called that Mount Vernon, but I guess it must be across the river in Burlington. That’s the river the oversize truck knocked the I-5 bridge into a few years ago….

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Anymouse  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:01:28am

Internet service was out all afternoon, recently restored (sort of).

I cannot get to any .net or .org sites, only whitehouse.gov and navy.gov, and littlegreenfootballs.com (no other .gov or .com sites work; at least LGF works… .)

Foreign sites such as dw.de and bbc.co.uk are not working at all.

All the Websites that don’t work send me to CenturyLink’s “setup page” where the setup stays stuck on page one.

Called my telephone company, which insisted I needed to reset my modem. After wrestling with the call centre in India reading from a script and losing, I reset the modem (which takes about five minutes). No change.

“We’ll look into it, sir.”

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:06:23am

re: #37 Ace-o-aces

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How do you respond to this much stupid?

Who the fuck did Alton Brown shoot and why don’t I know about this?

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Anymouse  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:09:20am

re: #45 Single-handed sailor

Who the fuck did Alton Brown shoot and why don’t I know about this?

dailydot.com

Way back in July, there was a rumour that Alton Brown was shot. Daily Dot debunked it.

He was apparently confused with Alton Sterling, who was shot.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:12:41am

re: #44 Anymouse

Internet service was out all afternoon, recently restored (sort of).

I cannot get to any .net or .org sites, only whitehouse.gov and navy.gov, and littlegreenfootballs.com (no other .gov or .com sites work; at least LGF works… .)

Foreign sites such as dw.de and bbc.co.uk are not working at all.

All the Websites that don’t work send me to CenturyLink’s “setup page” where the setup stays stuck on page one.

Called my telephone company, which insisted I needed to reset my modem. After wrestling with the call centre in India reading from a script and losing, I reset the modem (which takes about five minutes). No change.

“We’ll look into it, sir.”

you could try using a different DNS, Google public DNS works OK

IPv4
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

IPv6

2001:4860:4860::8888
2001:4860:4860::8844

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:16:15am

I’m pretty sure my weed doesn’t smell this bad, there must be a skunk outside.

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Anymouse  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:18:55am

re: #47 Single-handed sailor

you could try using a different DNS, Google public DNS works OK

IPv4
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

IPv6

2001:4860:4860::8888
2001:4860:4860::8844

I tried using a couple public DNS services. (Google, Microsoft, Comodo). Well, that’s three, actually. No difference.

Perhaps Little Green Footballs has conquered the entire .com top level domain here in my village; all others have knelt in homage and signed off. (I just checked: wonkette.com works too.)

Liberal Bloggers Are Taking All the Conservative Truth Tellers OFF LINEEEEEEEEE!!!!!ONE!!!22111¬!!uno!!11eleventy!! It’s a conspiracy! Investigate Hillary Clinton’s E-mail satellite death-ray server!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:23:35am
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Anymouse  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:38:30am

Man who shouts at women at the University of Arizona claiming they deserve to be raped has been arrested for kicking a woman in the chest on campus.

He has been banned from the campus for one year and is being held on $641 bond.

(Oddly specific amount, and seems to me quite low for battery.)

wonkette.com

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austin_blue  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:39:07am

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

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They look like a nice, happy fambly. I think the attached bayonet on the pistol-gripped AK knock-off is a Don’t Tread On Me bonus statement (and the rifle is so accurate in a fire fight!). The missus looks like an early adopter of crystal meth. And is that a velour jersey that Daddy Jheri Curl is wearing and does it have a velcro closing chest pocket? Classy!

I wonder how much food they’ve got down in the bunker? I hope it includes just a shit-pot of sunflower seeds, or Paulie the Parrot is going to get grumpy (or eaten).

These photos of late 70’s/early 80’s RWNJs are delightful! It gives you a real feel for the roots of the movement.

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Anymouse  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:14:47am

dailydot.com

Nearly three million voters’ private information were leaked on-line by the State of Louisiana, which blamed the leak on a misconfigured database.

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austin_blue  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:28:00am

re: #53 Anymouse

dailydot.com

Nearly three million voters’ private information were leaked on-line by the State of Louisiana, which blamed the leak on a misconfigured database.

Misconfigured? This must be Doublespeak for “completely inadequate firewall”.

And I’m off for the rack. Night all.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 24, 2016 • 3:23:58am

re: #54 austin_blue

Misconfigured? This must be Doublespeak for “completely inadequate firewall”.

And I’m off for the rack. Night all.

Database password was “password”, probably. Or whatever the default was.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2016 • 3:40:30am

re: #55 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Database password was “password”, probably. Or whatever the default was.

Nah, the password was “Guest.”

Archer - Mole Hunt - Hacking scene

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 24, 2016 • 4:19:18am

re: #56 Targetpractice

Nah, the password was “Guest.”

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The IT people at my uni have a habit of creating WiFi passwords like “abcd123456” or “jishou123456”. There’s an app for Android that will crack most public WiFi passwords in a few minutes, because people rarely create anything really secure. Plus, they seldom change the username from “admin” to something else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2016 • 4:51:03am

re: #56 Targetpractice

Nah, the password was “Guest.”

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“19virgins”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2016 • 5:16:53am

re: #57 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The IT people at my uni have a habit of creating WiFi passwords like “abcd123456” or “jishou123456”. There’s an app for Android that will crack most public WiFi passwords in a few minutes, because people rarely create anything really secure. Plus, they seldom change the username from “admin” to something else.

even something simple as alternating birth date and name and throwing in a random symbol makes it easy to remember but much harder to crack: 1D9A8V6E#, for example

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 5:44:29am
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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 5:50:50am

When you ask yourself why Hillary isn’t > x% ahead of Trump:

If you’re a major-party presidential nominee in this day and age in American politics, you’ve frankly got to work pretty hard to get less than 40 or even 45 percent of the vote. Because we’re just that partisan.

A presidential race has been decided by double digits only once since 1972. And since that Richard Nixon-reelecting landslide in ‘72, neither party has taken less than 40 percent of the vote in a two-candidate race. In fact, neither side has taken less than 45 percent in a two-candidate race since Ronald Reagan. (This excludes two of the past seven races, of course — both Bill Clinton victories featuring Ross Perot as an independent candidate. But it likely would have held up in Perot’s absence.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2016 • 5:54:50am

re: #61 Belafon

If you’re a major-party presidential nominee in this day and age in American politics, you’ve frankly got to work pretty hard to get less than 40 or even 45 percent of the vote. Because we’re just that partisan.

And our media are set up to present a contrast between candidates who are usually comparably qualified, with established legislative or administrative records to refer to.

Nothing prepared them for trying to cover a race that includes a candidate who has no record of public service and no other apparent qualifications for office.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:00:09am

Here’s a really good Huffington Post article about Hillary’s policy proposals including, for those of us wanting her “to put more of her ideas out” about how they aren’t getting covered, such as her August 10th proposal to help families pay for college tuition that virtually no one paid attention to. I like this paragraph:

One of Jake Sullivan’s favorite stories about Clinton comes from August 2011, when she was still at the State Department. The recession was over but employment was sluggish, and Obama had asked his Cabinet secretaries to pass along ideas they might have for boosting job creation. Most sent short notes. Clinton submitted a 12-page single-spaced memo, complete with references. (“Classic Hillary,” was one reaction from within the White House.)

It’s also a very good article if you’re wondering if Clinton is going to pursue her husband’s third-way agenda. Short answer: She’s not, because the US and the world is different than it was 20 years ago, and she was never as centrist as her husband, though she is pragmatic on getting stuff passed.

Edit: Helps to put the link in.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:10:31am

I’ve been thinking about Clinton inviting Mark Cuban to the first debate. That’s an LBJ level action right there. I wonder how long her list is on existing Congresspeople? I wonder if any horse heads are going to turn up in beds when major votes come up.

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jeffreyw  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:33:36am

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Good morning!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:42:13am

re: #52 austin_blue

They look like a nice, happy fambly. I think the attached bayonet on the pistol-gripped AK knock-off is a Don’t Tread On Me bonus statement (and the rifle is so accurate in a fire fight!). The missus looks like an early adopter of crystal meth. And is that a velour jersey that Daddy Jheri Curl is wearing and does it have a velcro closing chest pocket? Classy!

I wonder how much food they’ve got down in the bunker? I hope it includes just a shit-pot of sunflower seeds, or Paulie the Parrot is going to get grumpy (or eaten).

These photos of late 70’s/early 80’s RWNJs are delightful! It gives you a real feel for the roots of the movement.

And remember that *the* threat at that time was the bunch of old men in the Kremlin! Now they love them some Putin.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:50:32am

The unfortunate new normal.

Police searched Saturday for a gunman authorities said opened fire in the makeup department of a Macy’s store at a mall north of Seattle, killing four females and one man, before fleeing toward an interstate on foot.

People fled, customers hid in dressing rooms and employees locked the doors of nearby stores after gunshots rang out just after 7 p.m. Friday at the Cascade Mall. A helicopter, search teams and K-9 units scoured the area for a rifle-carrying man.

“We are still actively looking for the shooter,” Washington State Patrol spokesman Sgt. Mark Francis said at a news conference. “Stay indoors, stay secure.”

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:53:18am

It is Saturday so I am at Wegmans. They have their large TV on CNN and Don King has just said he is supporting that Trump Person. And his mouth was going until the host Michael Smerconish cut to a commercial.

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Skip Intro  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:55:23am

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:07:20am

“We need more guns!”
“Why?”
“Because people who get ahold of guns might shoot us!”
“But don’t more guns make it easier for them to get them?”

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:15:40am

So, the other day I found an HP F2280 DeskJet printer out by the dumpster when I was taking out my trash. Took it upstairs, and got a message that the ink cartridges needed replacement. Today, went to Makro (sorta like Costco) and bought the necessary color and black ink cartridges…….and it works.

Not 100% free - I had to buy the cartridges and that came to about $38 in a two-pack, but cheaper than buying a printer. The cheapest printers here retail for about $75.

Good times.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:20:26am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

That is a good deal.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:22:04am

re: #72 PhillyPretzel

That is a good deal.

Yeah, I thought so. It’s a pretty decent machine; scanner/copier/printer and for my work, it’s good to have if I need to print something up for a lesson in a hurry before I go.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:29:32am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I thought so. It’s a pretty decent machine; scanner/copier/printer and for my work, it’s good to have if I need to print something up for a lesson in a hurry before I go.

I’ve been thinking about buying an inexpensive laser printer for just that occasion. Sometimes the office printer isn’t available when I need it, and anyway the office is nowhere near my classrooms or my flat. But the copy shop is on the way to class.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:31:42am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:36:39am

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve been thinking about buying an inexpensive laser printer for just that occasion. Sometimes the office printer isn’t available when I need it, and anyway the office is nowhere near my classrooms or my flat. But the copy shop is on the way to class.

It’s never a bad idea to have one.

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makeitstop  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:43:11am

Good morning from sunny Encino, CA! I spent yesterday hanging out, smoking cigarettes and playing guitars with an old friend. Dunno what in the world we’re up to today, but it’s really nice to be here. It’s a gorgeous day out.

And yeah, I’m still on NY time. Why else would I be up at 7AM on a damn Saturday?

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(alpuz)  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:44:18am

re: #65 jeffreyw

Ok. Spill the beans. What’s that?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:46:22am

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

It’s never a bad idea to have one.

Finding a place for it is the real trick.

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Tigger2  Sep 24, 2016 • 7:55:13am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:01:45am

re: #79 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Finding a place for it is the real trick.

I live in a studio apartment; not a lot of room, so I put it under the table, LOL. Works fine.

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dangerman  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:08:00am

re: #75 Ace-o-aces

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[Embedded content]It’s amazing how many people can tell a man’s religion based on a single blurry photo.

its amazing how many people think they can tell anyone’s religion by how they look

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thedopefishlives  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:12:35am

Morning Lizardim.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:15:39am

re: #82 dangerman

its amazing how many people think they can tell anyone’s religion by how they look

As we all know, no Christians ever lived in the Middle East.

//

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:19:14am

re: #84 Belafon

rofl.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:20:30am

re: #84 Belafon

As we all know, no Christians ever lived in the Middle East.

//

I heard some guy say something once about how Jesus was brown, but that’s obviously a lie. We all know Jesus was a White American Man.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:21:47am

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What’s mainland China’s power standard?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:23:37am

re: #86 thedopefishlives

I heard some guy say something once about how Jesus was brown, but that’s obviously a lie. We all know Jesus was a White American Man.

Most agree he looked like Michael Bolton circa “Time, Love, and Tenderness.”

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stpaulbear  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:23:37am

re: #86 thedopefishlives

I heard some guy say something once about how Jesus was brown, but that’s obviously a lie. We all know Jesus was a White American Man.

Jesus wasn’t even a Christian!

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thedopefishlives  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:24:55am

re: #89 stpaulbear

Jesus wasn’t even a Christian!

Yeah, that’s just what them Jews want you to think.///

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:26:00am

That’s why Jesus insisted on greeting people with “Happy Holidays.”

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LastYearsMan  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:27:02am

I’m pretty sure Jesus was Korean…

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Tigger2  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:34:40am
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jeffreyw  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:35:44am

re: #78 (alpuz)

Ok. Spill the beans. What’s that?

That’s chili, I have a sort of recipe here.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:35:50am

re: #93 Tigger2

But it would lower taxes for the job creators, and that’s what’s important, am I right?

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BeachDem  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:44:36am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And our media are set up to present a contrast between candidates who are usually comparably qualified, with established legislative or administrative records to refer to.

Nothing prepared them for trying to cover a race that includes a candidate who has no record of public service and no other apparent qualifications for office.

Oh, the delightful Andrea Mitchell has that covered (at least for the debates):

I think he could come out and be an acceptable new norm, and that’s what the Clinton campaign is concerned about. He could go 90 minutes, misstating facts let’s say, but looking smooth, being the performer, and she is the studious schoolmarm constantly saying you’re wrong about that, that’s a lie. It’s not an appealing persona.

Ugh. Go home, Andrea—PLEASE.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:46:00am
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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:47:38am

re: #63 Belafon

Here’s a really good Huffington Post article about Hillary’s policy proposals including, for those of us wanting her “to put more of her ideas out” about how they aren’t getting covered, such as her August 10th proposal to help families pay for college tuition that virtually no one paid attention to. I like this paragraph:

It’s also a very good article if you’re wondering if Clinton is going to pursue her husband’s third-way agenda. Short answer: She’s not, because the US and the world is different than it was 20 years ago, and she was never as centrist as her husband, though she is pragmatic on getting stuff passed.

Edit: Helps to put the link in.

Thanks for that link too! As you know, I’ve been on the lookout for policy info to use against those that argue she is a Republican in hiding and has no policy in her campaign, etc.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:58:31am

re: #95 thedopefishlives

But it would lower taxes for the job creators, and that’s what’s important, am I right?

True. It especially helps those that have jobs building big houses, expensive cars, elaborate yachts and serve luxury hotels in rich vacation spots! /

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 8:59:52am

re: #96 BeachDem

Oh, the delightful Andrea Mitchell has that covered (at least for the debates):

I think he could come out and be an acceptable new norm, and that’s what the Clinton campaign is concerned about. He could go 90 minutes, misstating facts let’s say, but looking smooth, being the performer, and she is the studious schoolmarm constantly saying you’re wrong about that, that’s a lie. It’s not an appealing persona.

Ugh. Go home, Andrea—PLEASE.

Andrea is not a pleasing persona.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:04:08am

re: #96 BeachDem

Oh, the delightful Andrea Mitchell has that covered (at least for the debates):

I think he could come out and be an acceptable new norm, and that’s what the Clinton campaign is concerned about. He could go 90 minutes, misstating facts let’s say, but looking smooth, being the performer, and she is the studious schoolmarm constantly saying you’re wrong about that, that’s a lie. It’s not an appealing persona.

Ugh. Go home, Andrea—PLEASE.

It’s just constant and everywhere. NPR interviewed some “expert” a couple of mornings ago who said the conventional wisdom: Trump just has to look presidential while Clinton has to seem trustworthy; then he added “the former being much easier than the latter.” WTF?

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:10:01am

re: #96 BeachDem

Oh, the delightful Andrea Mitchell has that covered (at least for the debates):

I think he could come out and be an acceptable new norm, and that’s what the Clinton campaign is concerned about. He could go 90 minutes, misstating facts let’s say, but looking smooth, being the performer, and she is the studious schoolmarm constantly saying you’re wrong about that, that’s a lie. It’s not an appealing persona.

Ugh. Go home, Andrea—PLEASE.

The jocks never liked Hermione except when they needed help on a project or homework or to study for a test.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:10:23am
Howard County Executive Allan Kittleman and three of his predecessors are calling on the sheriff to resign after the release of a report claiming that the sheriff discriminated against and harassed his employees, including deputies.

Kittleman wrote a letter to Sheriff James Fitzgerald saying in part, “I hope that you will move quickly to ensure that we maintain the public’s trust in all law enforcement personnel and resign from your position,” The Baltimore Sun reports.

[…]

Fitzgerald also is alleged to have used a racial slur about black people, made comments about women’s breasts, said, “African-American deputies are not too smart, but they get the job done,” and to have referred to former executive Ulman as “little Kenny Jew-boy.”

wtop.com

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BeachDem  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:15:19am

re: #101 Barefoot Grin

It’s just constant and everywhere. NPR interviewed some “expert” a couple of mornings ago who said the conventional wisdom: Trump just has to look presidential while Clinton has to seem trustworthy; then he added “the former being much easier than the latter.” WTF?

Media Matters has all of the media swill gathered in one place for convenience:

The Bar Gets Lower: Media Reinforce Double Standard For Trump Ahead Of First Debate

mediamatters.org

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:30:00am

re: #63 Belafon

Here’s a really good Huffington Post article about Hillary’s policy proposals including, for those of us wanting her “to put more of her ideas out” about how they aren’t getting covered, such as her August 10th proposal to help families pay for college tuition that virtually no one paid attention to. I like this paragraph:

It’s also a very good article if you’re wondering if Clinton is going to pursue her husband’s third-way agenda. Short answer: She’s not, because the US and the world is different than it was 20 years ago, and she was never as centrist as her husband, though she is pragmatic on getting stuff passed.

Edit: Helps to put the link in.

Quoting again because I just read most of that article (quick read)…it’s huge…and thorough.

Again thanks for the link. I was looking for a hammer. You found the 20 lb. sledge. Now, I’m going to go whacking at some foundations!

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:35:28am
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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:40:24am

re: #106 Dr. Matt

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:42:16am

I have a dream.

All of American that can, watches the debates on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, LGF, and other sites that will stream it as long as they are not part of the larger TV media and their sites.

Send a message to big TV. Hit ‘em hard where it hurts…ratings. Make them suffer with low numbers and low returns on advertising.

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mmmirele  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:45:25am

re: #51 Anymouse

Man who shouts at women at the University of Arizona claiming they deserve to be raped has been arrested for kicking a woman in the chest on campus.

He has been banned from the campus for one year and is being held on $641 bond.

(Oddly specific amount, and seems to me quite low for battery.)

wonkette.com

He’s out of jail (I checked). I fully expect to see Dean Saxton plying his “trade” up here at Arizona State University if they don’t ban him from campus first. He’s brought his show up here.

You can protest and not be an asshat about it (semi-pro picketer here). Of course, it helps if you tell the truth and, in my case, that the object of the protest happens to be a loose-lipped loudmouth preacher.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:55:19am

re: #96 BeachDem

Oh, the delightful Andrea Mitchell has that covered (at least for the debates):

I think he could come out and be an acceptable new norm, and that’s what the Clinton campaign is concerned about. He could go 90 minutes, misstating facts let’s say, but looking smooth, being the performer, and she is the studious schoolmarm constantly saying you’re wrong about that, that’s a lie. It’s not an appealing persona.

Ugh. Go home, Andrea—PLEASE.

We all know that Mrs. Greenspan will lie any lie about Hillary.

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Jenner7  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:56:14am

“No one can get in Donald Trump’s head.”

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Joe Bacon  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:56:21am

re: #106 Dr. Matt

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What else would you expect from Fred Hiatt and his fellow Hillary Haters?

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:56:42am

re: #108 ObserverArt

I have a dream.

All of American that can, watches the debates on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, LGF, and other sites that will stream it as long as they are not part of the larger TV media and their sites.

Send a message to big TV. Hit ‘em hard where it hurts…ratings. Make them suffer with low numbers and low returns on advertising.

No TV in our house since 2004 or so (I can’t remember).

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Joe Bacon  Sep 24, 2016 • 9:58:34am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:02:43am

re: #113 wrenchwench

No TV in our house since 2004 or so (I can’t remember).

German TV switched over from analog to digital in 2012 and I am not about to invest in a converter unit or a new digital TV, so since then it serves only as a DVD monitor

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:07:50am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

German TV switched over from analog to digital in 2012 and I am not about to invest in a converter unit or a new digital TV, so since then it serves only as a DVD monitor

When I lived in the broadcast reaches of LA, we got ALL the channels (like 12 or so, back then, counting VHF and UHF), here you can’t get anything without cable. When the stations went digital, we were no longer able to get one channel over the radio.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:08:05am

re: #108 ObserverArt

I have a dream.

All of American that can, watches the debates on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, LGF, and other sites that will stream it as long as they are not part of the larger TV media and their sites.

Send a message to big TV. Hit ‘em hard where it hurts…ratings. Make them suffer with low numbers and low returns on advertising.

I wonder though, if that doesn’t just cause them to pander more to those that do watch. It’s like voters. Not voting makes them focus on those that do reliably.
I think it would be different if low viewership could make a channel go away, but they’re not going to for a while.

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BeachDem  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:08:54am

re: #111 Jenner7

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“No one can get in Donald Trump’s head.”

And apparently, no one can teach him how to spell:

It’s Gennifer, Mr. Yam.
And I doubt it would have any effect on Hillary anyway. Other wingers have suggested Monica be there as well. They’re just sooooo clever.

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nines09  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:10:38am

re: #111 Jenner7

Big mouth pulled that tweet it seems.

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Jenner7  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:11:23am

re: #119 nines09

He just corrected the spelling….or KellyAnne did.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:12:11am

re: #118 BeachDem

And apparently, no one can teach him how to spell:

It’s Gennifer, Mr. Yam.
And I doubt it would have any effect on Hillary anyway. Other wingers have suggested Monica be there as well. They’re just sooooo clever.

Ugh. If she hasn’t come to terms with it by now, she wouldn’t be in the position she’s in. Assuming she ever had a problem with either of them to begin with.

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nines09  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:12:32am

re: #120 Jenner7

It’s missing on my end and others.

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BeachDem  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:12:37am

re: #120 Jenner7

He just corrected the spelling….or KellyAnne did.

It wasn’t me, I promise.

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nines09  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:22:30am

re: #120 Jenner7

Yes. Can’t even spell. Genius.

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Alephnaught  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:23:52am

re: #106 Dr. Matt

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There’s a fundamental flaw here: this is not a debate about two personalities, it’s a debate about being President of the USA. Differing standards for different candidates are bad enough, but it’s missing the point that the only bar should be the minimum standards to be President.

Given that the President is the head of state of the USA, lowering the bar of the President’s character also lowers the bar of the world’s expectation of US citizens. To give a UK based analogy, imagine a referendum where the UK decided to replace Queen Elizabeth II with Queen Katy Hopkins.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:28:01am

re: #117 Belafon

I wonder though, if that doesn’t just cause them to pander more to those that do watch. It’s like voters. Not voting makes them focus on those that do reliably.
I think it would be different if low viewership could make a channel go away, but they’re not going to for a while.

TV ratings are all about demographics. They need age and income brackets to show up in their databases.

Those that do watch may not be sufficient in those categories that bring in the higher end advertisers and thus the money they would like to charge for their ads.

Think of Rush Limbaugh and others. Do you think the radio stations are happy with some of the advertisers they lost as compared to the advertisers that remain?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:28:11am

re: #116 wrenchwench

When I lived in the broadcast reaches of LA, we got ALL the channels (like 12 or so, back then, counting VHF and UHF), here you can’t get anything without cable. When the stations went digital, we were no longer able to get one channel over the radio.

Yeah, you used to be able to get the audio for Channel 6 on one of the lower FM frequencies. I used to listen to the news from the Richmond, VA CBS affiliate that way sometimes.

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BeachDem  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:32:31am

MSNBC’s ads for the debate sound more like a WWE commercial or the old “Sunday, Raceway Park” ads I remember from my “yoot”:

TRUMP!! CLINTON!! FACE OFF!! ONE ON ONE!! BE THERE!! WHEN POLICIES AND PERSONALITIES COLLIDE!!

msnbc.com

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:33:27am

re: #127 Timothy Watson

Channel 6 in Providence, RI actually advertised their audio on a billboard. Channel 6 audio is close enough to the bottom of the FM band to work. No more, of course.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:34:31am

re: #127 Timothy Watson

Yeah, you used to be able to get the audio for Channel 6 on one of the lower FM frequencies. I used to listen to the news from the Richmond, VA CBS affiliate that way sometimes.

It was channel 6 here, too! LA didn’t even have a channel 6. They had 2,4,5,7,9,11,13, PBS on 28 and something in the 50s.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:34:45am

re: #128 BeachDem

MSNBC’s ads for the debate sound more like a WWE commercial or the old “Sunday, Raceway Park” ads I remember from my “yoot”:

TRUMP!! CLINTON!! FACE OFF!! ONE ON ONE!! BE THERE!! WHEN POLICIES AND PERSONALITIES COLLIDE!!

msnbc.com

I was going to mention that a day or so ago. Thanks for bringing it up. If that doesn’t tell you it is both a “race” and pure entertainment thinking, nothing will.

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allegro  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:36:21am

re: #128 BeachDem

MSNBC’s ads for the debate sound more like a WWE commercial or the old “Sunday, Raceway Park” ads I remember from my “yoot”:

TRUMP!! CLINTON!! FACE OFF!! ONE ON ONE!! BE THERE!! WHEN POLICIES AND PERSONALITIES COLLIDE!!

msnbc.com

Funny you mention that. Just yesterday I saw one of those promos and said “sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY!!!”

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:38:42am

re: #128 BeachDem

MSNBC’s ads for the debate sound more like a WWE commercial or the old “Sunday, Raceway Park” ads I remember from my “yoot”:

TRUMP!! CLINTON!! FACE OFF!! ONE ON ONE!! BE THERE!! WHEN POLICIES AND PERSONALITIES COLLIDE!!

msnbc.com

There can be only one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:43:28am

re: #125 Alephnaught

Given that the President is the head of state of the USA, lowering the bar of the President’s character also lowers the bar of the world’s expectation of US citizens.

The Trump candidacy is about people who are sick of politics as usual and politicians, even if they are learned experts in their fields. They feel that anybody’s opinion is as good as anyone else’s, and want a candidate who reflects their level of stupidity and cluelessness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:44:24am

re: #128 BeachDem

MSNBC’s ads for the debate sound more like a WWE commercial or the old “Sunday, Raceway Park” ads I remember from my “yoot”:

TRUMP!! CLINTON!! FACE OFF!! ONE ON ONE!! BE THERE!! WHEN POLICIES AND PERSONALITIES COLLIDE!!

msnbc.com

Gotta appeal to all those WWF and NASCAR fans out there who otherwise do not pay much attention to politics.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:48:58am

re: #116 wrenchwench

We have a digital antenna on one of our TVs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:51:29am

re: #130 wrenchwench

It was channel 6 here, too! LA didn’t even have a channel 6. They had 2,4,5,7,9,11,13, PBS on 28 and something in the 50s.

Yeah, I had to go downstairs to the b/w to get UHF channels, our old color set was only VHF

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:52:48am

Something I had missed: The actor who played Cliff on Cheers endorsed Trump.

The jokes write themselves.

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allegro  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:57:44am

re: #136 Belafon

We have a digital antenna on one of our TVs.

It’s actually amazing the channels we get here on digital antenna. Some very cool stuff. I keep one TV on cable and the other on antenna cuz the hassle quotient of trying to make one TV do both is off the charts.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 24, 2016 • 10:59:16am
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jaunte  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:00:03am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gotta appeal to all those WWF and NASCAR fans out there who otherwise do not pay much attention to politics.

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danarchy  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:00:45am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gotta appeal to all those WWF and NASCAR fans out there who otherwise do not pay much attention to politics.

What does the World Wildlife Fund have to do with anything?

/

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:00:54am

re: #139 allegro

It’s actually amazing the channels we get here on digital antenna. Some very cool stuff. I keep one TV on cable and the other on antenna cuz the hassle quotient of trying to make one TV do both is off the charts.

One of my local channels had a sub-channel that has Suleimán - El Gran sultán, a Spanish-language dub of a Turkish show, Muhteşem Yüzyıl.

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MsJ  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:06:32am

re: #96 BeachDem

Oh, the delightful Andrea Mitchell has that covered (at least for the debates):

I think he could come out and be an acceptable new norm, and that’s what the Clinton campaign is concerned about. He could go 90 minutes, misstating facts let’s say, but looking smooth, being the performer, and she is the studious schoolmarm constantly saying you’re wrong about that, that’s a lie. It’s not an appealing persona.

Ugh. Go home, Andrea—PLEASE.

This is MY biggest fear. This is what I think is going to happen. I’m terrified.

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makeitstop  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:07:22am

re: #126 ObserverArt

Think of Rush Limbaugh and others. Do you think the radio stations are happy with some of the advertisers they lost as compared to the advertisers that remain?

Radio is a slightly different animal, due to how shows like Limbaugh’s are pitched to radio stations (I worked in radio syndication for a few years, so I’m familiar with how it works). Shows like Rush’s are offered to stations under what’s known as a ‘trade-barter’ arrangement - ie, they’re packaged with a certain number of ‘national’ ads per hour which pay to the syndicator and an equivalent number of blank ad minutes which the stations get to sell and make money on. In the case of the show I worked for, they were mostly paid ads for armed forces recruitment. In Limbaugh’s case it’s quack medicines and foot powder and the like, and they’ve always been the core of syndication revenues. Granted, in Limbaugh’s salad days he had a number of relatively prestigious accounts, but the boycott mounted against him have been pretty successful.

But there has always been a pretty high level of fuckery going on with how his syndication company massaged the numbers for that show - in particular running episodes during the week and again on weekends, then combining the ratings for multiple airings and counting the aggregate ratings for the first airing - which ended up inflating the amount that the syndicator could charge for their ‘national’ ads.

Just like the ideas put forth on the show, the ratings numbers were essentially pretty dishonest.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:09:04am

re: #143 Timothy Watson

One of my local channels had a sub-channel that has Suleimán - El Gran sultán, a Spanish-language dub of a Turkish show, Muhteşem Yüzyıl.

Spin-off brain link:

Wall of Voodoo - Mexican Radio (AB ‘83)

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:19:19am

Is Trump a 15 year-old girl?
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:20:55am

re: #8 Jenner7

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CNN is now covering it.

Judging by the photo and his choice of target, I’m wondering what his handle is on r/TheRedPill.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:28:02am

re: #147 Ace-o-aces

Trump’s the kid who read Atlas Shrugged and stopped growing up.

Edit: Or had it read to him.

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allegro  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:29:23am

re: #149 Belafon

Trump’s the kid who read Atlas Shrugged and stopped growing up.

I think Trump has never read a book. Not sure he has the skill. Maybe if it was in comic book form and his mommy read it to him…

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:30:04am

re: #145 makeitstop

Radio is a slightly different animal, due to how shows like Limbaugh’s are pitched to radio stations (I worked in radio syndication for a few years, so I’m familiar with how it works). Shows like Rush’s are offered to stations under what’s known as a ‘trade-barter’ arrangement - ie, they’re packaged with a certain number of ‘national’ ads per hour which pay to the syndicator and an equivalent number of blank ad minutes which the stations get to sell and make money on. In the case of the show I worked for, they were mostly paid ads for armed forces recruitment. In Limbaugh’s case it’s quack medicines and foot powder and the like, and they’ve always been the core of syndication revenues. Granted, in Limbaugh’s salad days he had a number of relatively prestigious accounts, but the boycott mounted against him have been pretty successful.

But there has always been a pretty high level of fuckery going on with how his syndication company massaged the numbers for that show - in particular running episodes during the week and again on weekends, then combining the ratings for multiple airings and counting the aggregate ratings for the first airing - which ended up inflating the amount that the syndicator could charge for their ‘national’ ads.

Just like the ideas put forth on the show, the ratings numbers were essentially pretty dishonest.

I agree. I was just using Limbaugh and the drop in quality advertising as a quick example of how losing quality advertising can hurt a media company. The part I highlighted in bold in your comment was really all I was after. I didn’t want to write a huge post.

Media demographics is all about who is watching, their ages, their spending and the like. Those stats are important to big TV to set advertising rates. If they lose some core groups like college educated, high-earning 18 to 35 year old viewers they lose some huge potential advertisers.

My whole point on hurting the big TV people is they would not like to see a lot of core groups starting watching online. It would kill them with ad rates and thus revenue.

Back to Belafon’s point…if MSNBC, Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN all start having to count on angry older crazyass wingnuts their advertising is going to suffer…big league! They no longer will be big league and big league advertisers will look for the outlets that let them get their core groups/

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CuriousLurker  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:30:20am

re: #128 BeachDem

MSNBC’s ads for the debate sound more like a WWE commercial or the old “Sunday, Raceway Park” ads I remember from my “yoot”:

TRUMP!! CLINTON!! FACE OFF!! ONE ON ONE!! BE THERE!! WHEN POLICIES AND PERSONALITIES COLLIDE!!

msnbc.com

Yeah, the media can color—or at least attempt to color—the way a story is perceived before people read even a single word of it. It was really obvious in a list of links I got via my Google Alerts in the past couple of days that were all about the same subject. I’ve highlighted the words that jumped out at me:

Geert Wilders’ lawyer to urge judges to drop discrimination case
DutchNews, Weekly News Bulletin, Indonesia News - Shafaqna

Wilders’ lawyer demands that hate-speech case be dropped
NL Times

Dutch lawmaker Wilders wants hate speech case dropped
The Big Story - Associated Press (also Fox News)

Anti-Islam lawmaker Geert Wilders asks for dismissal of hate speech case
ZeroCensorship

Anti-Islam lawmaker Wilders asks for dismissal of hate speech case
OOYUZ

Note hat in the first version, published by three different outlets, the court proceedings are described as a “discrimination” case whereas in all the others it was called “hate speech,” and only the last two made mention of his anti-Islam stance. In addition, wanting, asking, urging, and demanding leave quite different impressions, no?

I would assume that locals are well aware of who Wilders is and what he stands for, but others wouldn’t necessarily be. I wonder if the “Anti-Islam” part generates more clicks or less, and from whom? For the record, I didn’t actually read any of the articles, so I don’t know if their tone followed that of their headlines (which is the only part that really interested me). With a few—like Indonesia News - Shafaqna & ZeroCensorship—I think I can make a fairly accurate guess as to what their tone would be.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:32:16am

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:34:57am

re: #152 CuriousLurker

Legitimizing hate speech as something one can be ‘discriminated against’ for doing. As though there is a ‘freedom [to hate]’ that needs to be preserved.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:36:41am

re: #145 makeitstop

Radio is a slightly different animal, due to how shows like Limbaugh’s are pitched to radio stations (I worked in radio syndication for a few years, so I’m familiar with how it works). Shows like Rush’s are offered to stations under what’s known as a ‘trade-barter’ arrangement - ie, they’re packaged with a certain number of ‘national’ ads per hour which pay to the syndicator and an equivalent number of blank ad minutes which the stations get to sell and make money on. In the case of the show I worked for, they were mostly paid ads for armed forces recruitment. In Limbaugh’s case it’s quack medicines and foot powder and the like, and they’ve always been the core of syndication revenues. Granted, in Limbaugh’s salad days he had a number of relatively prestigious accounts, but the boycott mounted against him have been pretty successful.

When I listened to Limbaugh years ago (Lord, forgive me), I heard more WIC and other welfare advertisements than anything else.

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Tigger2  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:37:19am

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:38:36am

As a sci-fi fan, LOL:

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:41:04am

re: #152 CuriousLurker

- - CUT - -

I would assume that locals are well aware of who Wilders is & what he stands for, but others wouldn’t necessarily be. I wonder if the “Anti-Islam” part generates more clicks or less, and from whom? For the record, I didn’t actually read any of the articles, so I don’t know if their tone followed that of their headlines (which is the only part that really interested me). With a few—like Indonesia News - Shafaqna & ZeroCensorship—I think I can make a fairly accurate guess as to what their tone would be.

And as researchers have found many people that read online only read the headline and maybe the first paragraph of any story and draw their conclusions from there.

So, that is where the red meat is placed in it’s sizzling and great smelling state…and the real facts are in the last part of the story to cover the facts and the butts of the writer and their site.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:42:24am

re: #158 ObserverArt

And as researchers have found many people that read online only read the headline and maybe the first paragraph of any story and draw their conclusions from there.

So, that is where the red meat is placed in it’s sizzling and great smelling state…and the real facts are in the last part of the story to cover the facts and the butts of the writer and their site.

QFT

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:44:07am

re: #157 Timothy Watson

I like her twitter profile:

I play make-believe for a living. Stay in school Disclaimer: expect me to be just like a character from one of your favourite shows at your own risk.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:45:37am

Speaking of articles, I went over to DutchNews and saw and interesting one (especially for the expat lizards). It’s worth reading if you have a few minutes to spare. The author is Australian and the actual article is in the Sydney Morning Herald: The hardest part of moving overseas is the reverse culture shock of coming home

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:50:29am

By the way, the video at the top is fantastic, and I enjoyed the little screen that moved down with the scrolling more than once this thread. Here it comes again!

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Tigger2  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:55:02am

I love the I love dogs page on FB.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2016 • 11:55:10am

re: #161 CuriousLurker

Speaking of articles, I went over to DutchNews and saw and interesting one (especially for the expat lizards). It’s worth reading if you have a few minutes to spare. The author is Australian and the actual article is in the Sydney Morning Herald: The hardest part of moving overseas is the reverse culture shock of coming home

I’ve actually thought about that. I’ve been here in the Czech Republic for 15 years. I arrived here before the 9/11 attacks. While I’ve been home stateside three times in that decade and a half, I’ve little doubt I’d experience some pretty serious culture shock if I moved back there for good.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:09:16pm

Hoping against hope this first debate won’t be a total shitshow, but this news doesn’t set my mind at ease.

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:12:56pm

Riddle me this:

How can anyone be so quick to denounce the shah of Iran while defending Syrian President Bashar al-Assad? Last I checked, Bashar’s brutality far exceeds that of the shah, not to mention the body count, so how can one defend him while denouncing the other?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:16:38pm

re: #166 electrotek

Riddle me this:

How can anyone be so quick to denounce the shah of Iran while defending Syrian President Bashar al-Assad? Last I checked, Bashar’s brutality far exceeds that of the shah, not to mention the body count, so how can one defend him while denouncing the other?

Or the fact that al-Assad is a Shiite allied with Iran?

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:16:54pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Hoping against hope this first debate won’t be a total shitshow, but this news doesn’t set my mind at ease.

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It’s like I’ve been saying for weeks, so long as Trump doesn’t shit himself on live TV, he’ll be declared the “winner.” Meanwhile, if Hillary so much as coughs the next day’s headline will be “Clinton Appears To Be Ill, When Will She Resign From The Race?!”

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:18:26pm

re: #167 Timothy Watson

Or the fact that al-Assad is a Shiite allied with Iran?

Ditto.

I noticed this with a lot of Shi’as unfortunately. This reminds me of the 1990s when so many Eastern Orthodox Christians would blindly side with Slobodan Milosevic, Ratko Mladic, and Radovan Karadzic, simply because of shared Orthodox solidarity.

If religious solidarity makes one blind and immune to the crimes of their own, then I want no part of it.

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:19:06pm

People just think American imperialism is the only form of imperialism in existence while ignoring the other forms of it.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:19:24pm

re: #169 electrotek

Ditto.

I noticed this with a lot of Shi’as unfortunately. This reminds me of the 1990s when so many Eastern Orthodox Christians would blindly side with Slobodan Milosevic, Ratko Mladic, and Radovan Karadzic, simply because of shared Orthodox solidarity.

If religious solidarity makes one blind and immune to the crimes of their own, then I want no part of it.

THIS.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:19:49pm

Well, the State Patrol is still calling the Cascade Mall shooter an “Hispanic male”. He looks kinda swarthy, so I guess it’s an article of wingnut faith that he’s ISIS, right? Has anybody checked on Glenn Beck? Remember Mount Vernon is his home town. He must be in a fine froth this morning….

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:22:10pm

re: #171 CuriousLurker

THIS.

Can we safely say that this is an element on how fucked up human nature is?

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Tigger2  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:22:11pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Hoping against hope this first debate won’t be a total shitshow, but this news doesn’t set my mind at ease.

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:23:09pm

It just blows my mind on the hypocrisy, because those who criticize the shah for being secular and brutal, but defend another secular and brutal leader simply because he is backed by a government that dethroned the shah.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:23:31pm

Jeebus
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freetoken  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:24:56pm

re: #176 Stanley Sea

“different generals” - bigger, better… the bestest generals.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:27:52pm

re: #169 electrotek

If religious solidarity makes one blind and immune to the crimes of their own, then I want no part of it.

Same for secular solidarity. There are some incredibly bad atheists.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:31:35pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:31:47pm

re: #172 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, the State Patrol is still calling the Cascade Mall shooter an “Hispanic male”. He looks kinda swarthy, so I guess it’s an article of wingnut faith that he’s ISIS, right? Has anybody checked on Glenn Beck? Remember Mount Vernon is his home town. He must be in a fine froth this morning….

The other day I saw a story about some large bovine animal that had been beheaded for no apparent reason (I think it was some sort of buffalo that was well-known because it was especially large). I don’t remember where I saw it or what country it happened in, nor can I find it in my browser history, but IIRC it was a Western country. Anyway, this might sound weird, but my first thought was the Islamophobes screaming in unison: “It’s ISIS—Shariah—the Caliphate is heeere!!11!.

It actually made me giggle for a few seconds.

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:32:44pm

Anyone remember that beheading that happened in the back of a Greyhound bus in Canada back in 2008? Holy shit

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CuriousLurker  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:35:09pm

re: #181 electrotek

Anyone remember that beheading that happened in the back of a Greyhound bus in Canada back in 2008? Holy shit

Yep, that was an Asian guy, right? That was freaky.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:36:44pm
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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:37:12pm

re: #182 CuriousLurker

Yep, that was an Asian guy, right? That was freaky.

The shocking thing was that NO ONE fucking stepped in to stop it. How the fuck could anyone just sit there and do NOTHING? I mean, it’s one fucking guy vs a bus full of people that could have easily overpowered that guy.

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:37:23pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:39:36pm

re: #185 baski deploribus derpum

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Yeah, I’m sure that would intimidate Mark Cuban to the point of paralysis, thus neutralizing him. Good plan, Donald!

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:39:53pm

re: #184 electrotek

The shocking thing was that NO ONE fucking stepped in to stop it. How the fuck could anyone just sit there and do NOTHING? I mean, it’s one fucking guy vs a bus full of people that could have easily overpowered that guy.

Not being familiar with the incident, I looked at Wikipedia. The article says the driver and a couple passenger attempted to stop the guy but were unable to because he slashed at them with the knife.

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Tigger2  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:40:19pm

This is so awesome.

Facebook

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:43:49pm

But, but the GOP cares about national security.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:45:26pm

re: #184 electrotek

The shocking thing was that NO ONE fucking stepped in to stop it. How the fuck could anyone just sit there and do NOTHING? I mean, it’s one fucking guy vs a bus full of people that could have easily overpowered that guy.

I had the same thought at the time. I mean surely someone had a backpack or small suitcase they could’ve used for protection to approach him… Still, I wasn’t there, so I can’t really say for sure. Sudden, unexpected violence can cause people to freeze momentarily while they try to process the surreal scenario they’re witnessing, so maybe they were frozen in stunned disbelief and by the time anyone could recover their wits it was already over. I dunno.

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:46:58pm

re: #190 CuriousLurker

I had the same thought at the time. I mean surely someone had a backpack or small suitcase they could’ve used for protection to approach him… Still, I wasn’t there, so I can’t really say for sure. Sudden, unexpected violence can cause people to freeze momentarily while they try to process the surreal scenario they’re witnessing, so maybe they were frozen in stunned disbelief and by the time anyone could recover their wits it was already over. I dunno.

Yeah, I don’t mean any disrespect on that to those who witnessed the grotesque slaughter. It just boggles the mind to see so many allowing that to occur.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:47:45pm

re: #174 Tigger2

Damn it!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:48:17pm
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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:49:26pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:51:14pm

re: #188 Tigger2

This is so awesome.

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Well, now you’ve gone and done it—I’m blubbering all over my keyboard.

I’ve got some web site stuff to work on today, so I’m gonna go grab some Kleenex then get busy. TTYL, lizards.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:51:27pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Now we’ll hear about the affair Hillary had with Gennifer.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:53:36pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:57:01pm

re: #197 wrenchwench

He makes up for that by knowing the other daughter really well.

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allegro  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:57:18pm

re: #197 wrenchwench

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The Mark Cuban strategy works for Hillary because Trump is a unguided missile ready to go off at any moment. The Gennifer Flowers strategy won’t work for Trump because Hillary isn’t.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:58:19pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:59:21pm

re: #200 goddamnedfrank

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When many of my students see photos like that, they think such people are paranoid and insane.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 12:59:31pm

re: #199 allegro

The Mark Cuban strategy works for Hillary because Trump is a unguided missile ready to go off at any moment. The Gennifer Flowers strategy won’t work for Trump because Hillary isn’t.

It just makes Trump look more hypocritical & anti woman.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:03:50pm

Hopes for the first debate have dimmed after Chuck Todd was announced to be helping with questions.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:05:09pm

Here’s what I expect for the debate:

- I expect Trump to play to form and absolutely refuse to answer the questions. I expect to give long, rambling non-answers that segue into open insults against Hillary.

- I expect Trump to bully the shit out of Holt to get his way, whether it be in going over his allotted time, demanding a chance to “rebut” Hillary’s answers, refuse to address questions he doesn’t like, and generally shit all over Holt knowing that nobody in the media will dare stand up for their colleague.

- I expect that no matter how poorly he does, Trump will be graded with top marks due to three simple words: “he exceeded expectations.” How will he manage that? By showing up to the stage with a pulse. That’s how low the bar has been lowered for him, from the already automatically low level of being a white man running against the first woman presidential candidate.

- I expect everything Hillary does to be the subject of hours if not days of breathless speculation and criticism. She coughs, it’ll be a sign that she’s ill. She smiles, they’ll say she’s wrong for smiling when discussing (insert “sensitive” subject). She frowns or keeps a straight face, she’ll be criticizing for “not smiling enough.” When he yells, it’ll be “forceful” and “bold.” When she raises her voice, it’ll be “screechy” and “bitchy.” And on and on.

- And lastly, I fully expect that no matter how well she does, it will be seen as a “loss” for her because the bar is set so ridiculously high that she could never expect to meet it.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:07:17pm

Oh dear….

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:12:09pm

re: #104 BeachDem

Media Matters has all of the media swill gathered in one place for convenience:

The Bar Gets Lower: Media Reinforce Double Standard For Trump Ahead Of First Debate

mediamatters.org

Thanks. I just got back online and saw your post. I’ll check it out.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:15:51pm
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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:15:56pm

re: #200 goddamnedfrank

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With half of them pointing the guns at other kids.

FFS, I wasn’t allowed to touch a gun until I was 9 or so and that was only with my dad directly behind me with his hands on my shoulders.

And if anyone else was outside with us they were positioned behind my dad.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:19:04pm

I think I’ll plant a tree cactus.

SAVE THE FROGS LIZARDS!

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:19:46pm

re: #200 goddamnedfrank

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Also, at least 5 of the rifles have magazines in them. Seriously, what the fucking fuck is wrong these people?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:19:47pm

re: #172 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, the State Patrol is still calling the Cascade Mall shooter an “Hispanic male”. He looks kinda swarthy, so I guess it’s an article of wingnut faith that he’s ISIS, right? Has anybody checked on Glenn Beck? Remember Mount Vernon is his home town. He must be in a fine froth this morning….

I’ve actually seen this comment made a few times: “there are Hispanic Muslims, you know!”

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:22:00pm

re: #211 Barefoot Grin

I’ve actually seen this comment made a few times: “there are Hispanic Muslims, you know!”

But they still get mistaken as Arabs. Recall the Chilean pianist that was assaulted by Polish fascists for looking like an Arab early this year.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:22:53pm

re: #211 Barefoot Grin

I’ve actually seen this comment made a few times: “there are Hispanic Muslims, you know!”

The Tsarnayev brothers were literally Caucasian….

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freetoken  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:22:55pm

re: #208 Timothy Watson

That image has circulated the internet for a while. I remember seeing it somewhere else, but not sure where. At first I thought it was from a parody site.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:24:14pm

re: #214 freetoken

That image has circulated the internet for a while. I remember seeing it somewhere else, but not sure where. At first I thought it was from a parody site.

Ah, but I’ve seen several others like that. Female nutjob state legislature/Bundy Rancher supporter in Nevada had a similar image a couple years ago.

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allegro  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:24:23pm

I think a friend and I may have finally gotten through to another, friend, a Fox-news-default-hates-the-Clintons-with-the-heat-of-1000-suns Republican. In her favor, she thinks Trump is dangerous and disgusting (likewise Cruz and his TPers). She’s been getting more on the Libertarian bandwagon to avoid voting for either Trump or Clinton. Talking the other night my Independent friend, who is definitely voting for Hillary (and has greater influence than I on this issue since I’m a total leftie), gently berated her for throwing away her vote and saying that a vote for any other but Hillary was a vote for Trump. It had a clear impact. She was shuddering at the thought of voting for Clinton but taking that argument very seriously. I added that though Hillary’s policies were unlikable to her, the country will still remain in one piece during her administration and she is the only thing standing between us and Trump. My friend acknowledged that as fact.

I think that by voting day, she may not be with her, but will be voting for Hillary. We gotta keep talking! and talking and talking…

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:25:17pm

BTW, I get mistaken as a Hispanic guy a lot, and I’ve been called a “beaner” a few times on top of it.

Whoever thinks that being mistaken as a Hispanic will somehow prevent you from being harmed when shit gets real, I got a bridge to sell you.

As a brown-skinned guy, I’m fucked either way.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:31:28pm

re: #157 Timothy Watson

As a sci-fi fan, LOL:

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I love Jewel Staite. No, that’s it—that’s my profound observation….

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:34:36pm

re: #205 Ziggy_TARDIS

Sopan is the reason I think only comedians should cover the presidential election.

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Archangelus  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:37:00pm

Oh good freakin’ grief…
Rawstory: Gennifer Flowers Accepts Trump Debate Invitation

Gennifer Flowers — a woman with whom former Pres. Bill Clinton had an extramarital affair — has announced that she is accepting Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s invitation to sit in the front row of Monday night’s presidential debate.

BuzzFeed News reported Saturday that Trump posted on Twitter that he would like to see Ms. Flowers in the audience on Monday.

Within hours, Flowers announced that she would be happy to be there.

There’s low and then there’s LOW.
Kinda hoping she shows up wearing an “I’m with her” sign/shirt….

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:38:04pm

re: #211 Barefoot Grin

I’ve actually seen this comment made a few times: “there are Hispanic Muslims, you know!”

Meanwhile, the Cascade Mall is less than 50 miles from a Native American reservation.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:38:35pm

I just got back on to LGF and see the concern about Chucky Todd helping Lester Holt on questions for the debate. I see it as a legit concern, however, I have noticed a slight change in Todd over the last week or so. Well, as far as can be seen in his blank face and even more blank reporting.

He seems to have gotten a bit more harsh on Trump with the birther announcement bullshit and the Trump dance when asked about his foundation.

Chuck has admitted he doesn’t ask the tough questions on his show because guests will get pissed off and not come back on.

Well, the debate is it’s own “show” and Chucky is not directly involved. Maybe, just maybe, Chuck can load up some hot ones for Trump to deal with in order to do what he admits he is too tame to do. It won’t be him asking and he can lean on Lester Holt.

Also, it has been mentioned Lester Holt is a Republican, so maybe Holt is asking Todd to help make sure he is being honest on his party’s own candidate.

I can dream…but I hope Todd is thinking of how much an ass Trump has been to the media and at least finds his “nerve” in this case.

Also…if concerned, email, Facebook contact or Tweet NBC, Holt and Todd and let them know of your concerns. Be sure to let them know it may have some bearing on your viewership in the future. Just make sure you are not nasty to them. Nice works best.

As I said up thread…we viewers have some power if we use it. Use it!

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:38:39pm

re: #221 wrenchwench

Meanwhile, the Cascade mall is less than 50 miles from a Native American reservation.

AMERICAN INDIAN MOVEMENT!!1!!

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allegro  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:39:05pm

re: #217 electrotek

BTW, I get mistaken as a Hispanic guy a lot, and I’ve been called a “beaner” a few times on top of it.

Whoever thinks that being mistaken as a Hispanic will somehow prevent you from being harmed when shit gets real, I got a bridge to sell you.

As a brown-skinned guy, I’m fucked either way.

At least you don’t blister after a few minutes in the sun like us transparent redheads. That’s something.

//

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jaunte  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:39:17pm

re: #220 Archangelus

The conservative Christian candidate’s secret weapon.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:39:29pm

re: #220 Archangelus

There’s low and then there’s LOW.
Kinda hoping she shows up wearing an “I’m with her” sign/shirt….

Then there’s LOL.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:40:03pm

re: #220 Archangelus

Oh good freakin’ grief…
Rawstory: Gennifer Flowers Accepts Trump Debate Invitation

There’s low and then there’s LOW.
Kinda hoping she shows up wearing an “I’m with her” sign/shirt….

If Monica were there, she would…which is why she won’t be there, I suppose.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:41:51pm

re: #220 Archangelus

Oh good freakin’ grief…
Rawstory: Gennifer Flowers Accepts Trump Debate Invitation

There’s low and then there’s LOW.
Kinda hoping she shows up wearing an “I’m with her” sign/shirt….

I wonder, did anyone in the Trump campaign invite the sword swallower, the dogs that do the tricks and the plate spinners? And be sure to check out the rigging on the stage, I would hate to see the high-wire act suffer any injuries.

We need a clean circus for a U.S. Presidential debate.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:43:04pm

re: #221 wrenchwench

Meanwhile, the Cascade mall is less than 50 miles from a Native American reservation.

If you mean Tulalip, more like 20. Swinomish, more like 5.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:43:50pm

re: #229 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If you mean Tulalip, more like 20. Swinomish, more like 5.

At one time, it was ALL theirs….

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lawhawk  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:49:44pm

This is the GOP’s nominee.. A real family values candidate who spreads his values around here and there. And everywhere. Treats anyone and everyone around him as chattel.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:53:18pm

I haven’t filed taxes in two years. I tried to a year ago, and was unable. About a month ago, I found I had a sudden need to have done so. (I’ve done my own all my life, including 17 years self-employed. Being self employed is pretty much why I had to do them, because my word was good on ‘income’, but needed to have some authoritative credibility when it came to expenses, such as swearing it’s true to the government.)

I finished about a half an hour ago. Now to make copies and prep envelopes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:54:48pm

re: #231 lawhawk

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This is the GOP’s nominee.. A real family values candidate who spreads his values around here and there. And everywhere. Treats anyone and everyone around him as chattel.

It’s the stupidity of the thing that gets me. The only hope for any kind of effect, however momentary, would be absolute secrecy up to the moment Hillary came out and saw her. Of course, expecting that to put her off her game is laughable, but still.

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lawhawk  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:57:30pm

re: #233 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As if having any of these people in the audience would rattle Clinton? Seriously. She’s been dealing with this kind of crap for 30 years. Trump’s an amateur, for all his attempts at trolling.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:58:47pm

I fully expect Trump to complain to the moderator constantly.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 1:59:36pm

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

I fully expect Trump to complain to the moderator constantly.

I hope he does, let him come off as the big baby he is.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:00:50pm
UPDATE: Charlotte police chief says he’s decided to release video footage of police shooting of Keith Scott.

wtop.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:01:57pm

re: #237 Timothy Watson

And all it took was a few nights of riots…

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William Lewis  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:04:40pm

Anyone here read the Vorkosigan series? These attempts at trolling Clinton by Trump remind me of how towards the end of “The Vor Game” Gregor laughs at the femme-fatale’s attempts to manipulate him saying he’d been at the center of palace intrigues since he was 5 years old.

Better folks than Trump haven’t rattled her. The only real problem is the media, alas, in their desperation for a “horse race”.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:05:01pm

re: #238 Eclectic Cyborg

And all it took was a few nights of riots…

And the wife releasing her footage.

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Archangelus  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:05:21pm

re: #232 wrenchwench

Aren’t there consequences to not filing annually, especially if you’re self-employed?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:08:46pm

Lying liar really can’t keep his lies straight:

[Breaking news update at 4:53 p.m.]
Charlotte’s police chief said the video recorded by Keith Scott’s widow that was released publicly Friday didn’t factor into his decision to release police-recorded video of the fatal shooting. “Our practice and our protocol is to release as soon as we can to inform,” Putney said.

[Breaking news update at 4:46 p.m.]
Authorities will release the video of the fatal shooting of Keith Scott online, Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Chief Kerr Putney told reporters. He said the link should be available Saturday evening, but didn’t specify what website it would be on.

[Breaking news update at 4:45 p.m.]
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Chief Kerr Putney said he was waiting to release the video of the shooting of Keith Scott until the State Bureau of Investigation assured him it would not adversely impact the state’s investigation.

cnn.com

Liar said the other day state law didn’t permit him to release the videos, which the ACLU quickly called bullshit on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:09:27pm

re: #241 Archangelus

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:10:55pm

re: #242 Timothy Watson

Lying liar really can’t keep his lie straight:

cnn.com

Liar said the other day state law didn’t permit him to release the videos, which the ACLU quickly called bullshit on.

Police Protection Mode On: Duck and Cover!

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William Lewis  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:11:54pm

re: #240 Belafon

And the wife releasing her footage.

Had _much_ more to do with it.

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gocart mozart  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:14:35pm
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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:15:44pm

Has anyone else had a problem with LGF since Chrome updated? All the normal text looks bolded for some reason but it’s only happening on one computer.

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gocart mozart  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:18:32pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:20:54pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

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She and all his wives will be in the “VIP Purdah” section.

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Jenner7  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:21:09pm

Oh my god, she can’t even remember her password, how can she be President????!?!?!

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:21:24pm

re: #245 William Lewis

Had _much_ more to do with it.

I can’t imagine having to stand there and watch how that went down, especially since she more or less already knew there was a good chance it would go the way it went. Why else would she have been pleading “don’t shoot him” how many times.

If that isn’t a huge statement to America on how the African American community feels about the police I don’t know what is.

And the cops were so heated up they paid her zero attention. I half expected her to run between them and her husband and throw herself in the way to try to stop it.

That probably would have led to both of them being murdered.

Seeing that yesterday got my blood boiling. I hope more and more of white America is growing sick of this crap and the damn FOPs and Police Departments start to get serious heat about their tactics.

Protect (their own butts) and Serve (their own interests)

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:22:07pm

re: #251 Jenner7

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Oh my god, she can’t even remember her password, how can she be President????!?!?!

[media]GAME CHANGER[/media]

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:24:25pm

re: #247 Timothy Watson

Has anyone else had a problem with LGF since Chrome updated? All the normal text looks bolded for some reason but it’s only happening on one computer.

I have that going on too. One has what looks like light weight type and one normal. None of mine I would call bold.

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Tigger2  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:24:41pm

It is a game changer , how can she be guilty of all this Email stuff if she couldn’t even get into her Email. ///

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retired cynic  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:26:39pm

re: #255 Tigger2

It is a game changer , how can she be guilty of all this Email stuff if she couldn’t even get into her Email. ///

I use 1Password, thanks to Charles!, and all my passwords are long gobbledegook. I doubt they were using something “12345” for her to get into her email!

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freetoken  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:27:11pm

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:27:12pm

re: #241 Archangelus

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:28:16pm

re: #257 freetoken

Keep him away from the Philadelphia Flower Show. He would kill all of the plants. /half

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:28:57pm

re: #251 Jenner7

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Oh my god, she can’t even remember her password, how can she be President????!?!?!

It was probably eRsloW0943wsoptuw39200-@wiOK

Yeah.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:29:23pm

re: #254 ObserverArt

I have that going on too. One has what looks like light weight type and one normal. None of mine I would call bold.

Here’s what my comment upthread looks like:

“‘Our practice and our protocol is to release as soon as we can to inform,’ Putney said.” is bolded but hell if it looks like.

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danarchy  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:30:29pm

re: #169 electrotek

Ditto.

I noticed this with a lot of Shi’as unfortunately. This reminds me of the 1990s when so many Eastern Orthodox Christians would blindly side with Slobodan Milosevic, Ratko Mladic, and Radovan Karadzic, simply because of shared Orthodox solidarity.

If religious solidarity makes one blind and immune to the crimes of their own, then I want no part of it.

If it wasn’t religious, it would be racial, or ethnic, or nativist, or political, or philosophical, or those freaks over there who put milk in their tea.

Religion is often a convenient excuse but if it didn’t exist there would just be another excuse.

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gocart mozart  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:30:42pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:33:19pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:33:29pm

re: #261 Timothy Watson

Here’s what my comment upthread looks like:

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“‘Our practice and our protocol is to release as soon as we can to inform,’ Putney said.” is bolded but hell if it looks like.

I haven’t tried it yet, but I wonder if going into advanced settings and resetting the type under the advanced settings area would reset them to what you want.

Chrome seems to have some real issues holding onto info. I still love hearing an audio clip just start playing a fraction of the audio after I left a site that it was playing on at one time.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:35:48pm

re: #241 Archangelus

Aren’t there consequences to not filing annually, especially if you’re self-employed?

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I did file for extensions, but those expire the October after the due date.

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Tigger2  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:42:54pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:45:13pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:47:18pm

re: #268 wrenchwench

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Yeesh, probably NRA members all following safe and secure storage practices too.

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wrenchwench  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:50:03pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Yeesh, probably NRA members all following safe and secure storage practices too.

The frickin’ cops are supposed to set a good example, not a bad one.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:52:20pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

I haven’t tried it yet, but I wonder if going into advanced settings and resetting the type under the advanced settings area would reset them to what you want.

Chrome seems to have some real issues holding onto info. I still love hearing an audio clip just start playing a fraction of the audio after I left a site that it was playing on at one time.

I just uninstalled and reinstalled Chrome and reset everything as well and no difference.

I just checked with IE and the site appears the same as Chrome, but I don’t have the problem in Firefox.

So, don’t know if it has something to do with Windows or maybe the layout engines those browsers are using versus Firefox.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:57:42pm
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William Lewis  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:59:38pm

re: #252 ObserverArt

Protect (their own butts) and Serve (their own interests)

People raised on Adam-12 and Dragnet hate to believe it but the reality is that the police have always existed to protect the 1% first and foremost. Only if their needs coincide with ours do ours rate.

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allegro  Sep 24, 2016 • 2:59:42pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

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Reminds me of Warehouse 13. The best artifact was Sylvia Plath’s typewriter - you get close and it sucks out your will to live.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 24, 2016 • 3:06:57pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2016 • 3:07:13pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

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Haven’t been to DC since I was a kid. But the NMAAAC is one I really want to experience.
I’ve been to the Simon Wiesenthal in LA many many times (used to be a member, alas not now.) want to go to the Holocaust Memorial/Museum in DC.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 24, 2016 • 3:07:51pm
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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2016 • 3:13:32pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Boss man, any idea what’s up with LGF on my computer?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2016 • 3:14:08pm

re: #276 Stanley Sea

Haven’t been to DC since I was a kid. But the NMAAAC is one I really want to experience.
I’ve been to the Simon Wiesenthal in LA many many times (used to be a member, alas not now.) want to go to the Holocaust Memorial/Museum in DC.

One of our DoD workers in Israel loved doing our party skits and routines. She retired and came back to the states. A couple years later, after we returned, I saw her on a PBS special about an Underground Railroad safehouse museum. She retired to become the docent that plays Harriet Tubman.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:27:08pm

re: #87 Eric The Fruit Bat

What’s mainland China’s power standard?

The Party is always right.

Oh, wait. The other kind of power. 220VAC 50Hz


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