A Humiliated Trump Brags About Meaningless Internet Polls to Boost His Damaged Ego

The Ron Paul of 2016
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One of the laws of the Internet is that online polls — the kind that let anyone vote by clicking a “submit” button — are completely unscientific, meaningless, and easy to spam. They’re intended to be fun, and nothing more.

These types of polls usually have some very weak methods that try to prevent people from voting more than once, but anyone with the Tor browser (for one example) can easily get around these restrictions and vote as many times as they can click the buttons. People with a modicum of technical knowhow can even write a script — or use a pre-written one — to automate this process and simulate clicks by the thousands.

The more obsessive the followers, the more clicks on the buttons. It’s impossible to prevent this kind of spamming, and that’s why no serious person relies on Internet polls.

And that’s why I had a good laugh this morning when I saw Donald Trump tweet this YOOOGE list of meaningless Internet polls to boast that he “won” last night’s debate with Hillary Clinton.

“Such a great honor!”

I mean, we knew the guy was ignorant about the Internet and technology in general, but this breaks new ground in pathetic. It’s reminiscent of when Ron Paul’s followers used to spam every Internet poll on the web, then proclaim he won all the polls and therefore was sure to win the election! (We know how that prediction turned out.)

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton didn’t mess around with these dumb Internet polls; she posted a list of editorial pages from US newspapers.

No serious person relies on Internet polls to tell them anything real, and no serious political commentator believes Donald Trump “won” this debate. In fact, Hillary Clinton beat the pants off the tiny-fingered fascist, and he knows it. He’s trumpeting these Internet polls in a desperate effort to shore up his damaged ego.

And by the way, that CNN/ORC poll Trump didn’t include in his list? It was the only real scientific poll among them, and here are the results:

And another piece of very bad news for Trump out of this debate: among people who actually put money on the line to predict elections, his chances of winning took a nose dive after the debate.

I watched Monday evening’s debate in split-screen, tracking movements in political prediction markets as the two candidates went back and forth. During the 90 minutes of the debate, nearly $1 million was traded on the prediction market at BetFair.com. Bettors liked what they saw from Mrs. Clinton. The first major shift in the odds occurred within the first half-hour, and the odds of a Clinton presidency continued to rise as the debate went on. At no point did the markets move in Donald J. Trump’s favor.

When he boasted of his temperament, the audience laughed, and the market tilted further against him.

All told, Mrs. Clinton’s odds of winning the election rose from around 63 percent in the minutes before the debate started to 69 percent by the end. Likewise, Mr. Trump’s chances of winning the White House declined by five percentage points. Other prediction markets, such as PredictIt, showed an even larger move against Mr. Trump.

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371 comments
1
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:31:16am

“We whupped you Yankees at Manassass, and at Fredericksburg and at Chancellorsville and at Winchester…”

“Then how come you lost the war?”

“We musta got worn out whuppin’ you all the time!”

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:32:38am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:33:36am

Just a reminder that Baby Whiplash considers “Equal Pay For Women” an INSANE LEFTIST PROPOSAL TO TAKE AWAY ARE FREEDUMS!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:36:24am

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Just a reminder that Baby Whiplash considers “Equal Pay For Women” an INSANE LEFTIST PROPOSAL TO TAKE AWAY ARE FREEDUMS!!!!!!

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She came off pretty normal to me but then again I’m not a transphobic little weasel who cries that Trump is a leftist because I helped enable the movement he’s running.

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Big Steve  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:37:26am

After last night’s debate, Hillary can just go ahead and start measuring the drapes in the White House. Its over.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:37:39am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:37:46am

ITZ A CONSPEERASEE!

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Timothy Watson  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:37:57am

Woah, Trump didn’t just complain about his microphone, he suggested that it was purposely set up that way.

(Just heard the actual soundbite on the radio so I may be behind everyone else.)

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Tigger2  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:37:59am

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:38:20am

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:39:08am

We’re gonna need a bigger basket.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:39:54am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

ITZ A CONSPEERASEE!

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They must have used smaller pixels for Hillary.

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Skip Intro  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:40:32am
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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:40:54am

from bugsy63 at politicalwire.com:

Wile E. Coyote vs Donald Trump

1. Wile e always has an actual plan.
2. He is more articulate. (Though he rarely speaks).
3. He accepts defeat with grace and dignity
(He never sued acme)
4. He pays his bills. (Again, note very good relationship with acme)
5. he respects women and minorities(it’s just roadrunners he can’t stand and frankly, to be honest wich you, they deserve it).
6. He was created by a lifelong dedicated leftist democrat.
7. He is admirable in his committment to achieving his dream.

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:41:01am

re: #6 Big Steve

After last night’s debate, Hillary can just go ahead and start measuring pull the measurements out of her files for the drapes in the White House. Its over.

She’s way ahead of you.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:41:23am

re: #12 jaunte

Does anyone on the Right even care that the GOP ticket has completely abandoned “family values?” Just how full of shit are these people?
— Jordan Ashby

Very full.

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Franklin  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:41:25am

re: #13 Dr. Matt

They must have used smaller pixels for Hillary.

Different sized pixels ….never not funny.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:41:35am

Now, I’ve got twits claiming Trump won on a visceral level. Someone was eviscerated, but it wasn’t Clinton.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:41:57am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

ITZ A CONSPEERASEE!

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Also, too, Hillary panicked and over-prepared.

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Jenner7  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:42:50am

Fox News is covering her rally. Damn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:43:16am
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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:43:46am

he’s blaming the mic and the moderator

he knows he lost

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:43:51am

re: #21 Jenner7

Fox News is covering her rally. Damn.

“Sell outs. What about Trump?!”

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:44:04am

I’m willing to bet that these deplorables often forget how to breathe.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:44:43am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Yeah, it’s no fair! How come they only used the camera that makes you look like an ignorant, boorish, entitled blowhard on Trump?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:45:06am

re: #25 Dr. Matt

.@gatewaypundit Clinton’s mic was louder and her head/shoulders bigger in terms of scale vs Trump in the video frame.
— 3DOTNEWS

Sarcasm, right? Right?

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lockjawcanbefun  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:46:32am
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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:46:34am

Now that he’s gotten his ass whupped in the first debate, he’ll naturally assume that he wasn’t ‘tough enough’ on Hillary and adjust accordingly.

The next debate is going to be the ‘campaign speech’ Trump, guaranteed. And once those 100 million viewers get a load of that asshole, it’ll truly be a wrap.

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Big Steve  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:46:35am

re: #26 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

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Yeah, it’s no fair! How come they only used the camera that makes you look like an ignorant, boorish, entitled blowhard on Trump?

Yeah….and the moderators made him guzzle water too!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:46:47am

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Franklin  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:47:50am
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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:48:01am

re: #26 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

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Yeah, it’s no fair! How come they only used the camera that makes you look like an ignorant, boorish, entitled blowhard on Trump?

But look how big his shoulders appear? Mike Pence will be in his bunker.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:48:17am
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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:48:21am

re: #6 Big Steve

After last night’s debate, Hillary can just go ahead and start measuring the drapes in the White House. Its over.

isnt that the first, er, dude’s job?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:48:39am

Who are “they”? Oh yeah the Basket of DeplorablesTM

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:49:09am

re: #2 lawhawk

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[Embedded content]#TrumpWon is trending. Because there’s concepts known as irony and satire. You got beat last night like rented mule @realDonaldTrump

trump should have a word with sheldon cooper re: irony and snark

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Big Steve  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:50:38am

re: #35 dangerman

He should man-cave it.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:50:41am

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Who are “they”? Oh yeah the Basket of DeplorablesTM

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Trump seems particularly fixated on himself and his “winning”.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:50:45am

re: #19 lawhawk

Now, I’ve got twits claiming Trump won on a visceral level. Someone was eviscerated, but it wasn’t Clinton.

Clinton supporters reacted to the debate by reliving the best moments and just basking in the afterglow.

Trump supporters reacted by furiously voting in as many online polls as many times as they could.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:51:00am

re: #12 jaunte

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We’re gonna need a bigger basket.

family values, a bunch of the commandments, application of consistent ethics,

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:51:30am

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Well, now they’re saying that I not only won the NBC Presidential Forum, but last night the big debate. Nice!
— Donald J. Trump

Citation needed, please.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:51:32am

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Who are “they”? Oh yeah the Basket of DeplorablesTM

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As long as he can claim he won, he doesn’t have to change or do any studying for the next debate. Preserving his id = Winning!

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:52:37am

re: #21 Jenner7

Fox News is covering her rally. Damn.

instantly the new kid in town

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Franklin  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:53:49am

re: #42 Sir John Barron

Citation needed, please.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:53:59am

re: #25 Dr. Matt

I’m willing to bet that these deplorables often forget how to breathe.

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check the kerning!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:54:06am
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:54:19am

Julia Ioffe:

“…Russia’s new, well-funded and Kremlin-loyal Christian TV station boomed that “Trump calmly and surely beat Clinton.” “This has never happened in American history, for there to be complete uncertainty about who won the first round of that national American sport of presidential debates,” said a hot take published by RIA News, a state-owned wire. “Moreover, it raises the question: what is victory anyway?”

Well, as much as the Kremlin and Trump would like to muddy the waters and talk about a rigged system, eventually — say, on or around November 9 — we will know who won. And though Americans haven’t yet decided on who should lead them for the next four years, the Russian government clearly has: the ranting bull who would smash up the American china shop for them.”
foreignpolicy.com

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:54:22am

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Who are “they”? Oh yeah the Basket of DeplorablesTM

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Dear Donald:

“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
― Søren Kierkegaard

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:55:14am

re: #47 Stanley Sea

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Look, that just shows how dumb these voters are, OK? And how smart I am. I’m always winning.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:56:18am

re: #46 dangerman

check the kerning!

All 7 networks use the Earlybird filter for Hillary and the Walden filter for Trump! #Rigged!!!!!!

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Big Steve  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:56:51am

As far as I care the only analysis that means anything is the FiveThirtyEight model (projects.fivethirtyeight.com) that uses all reputable state and national polls and runs 10,000 simulations each time. They give odds from their results. Trump had been creeping back into it over the last month. After big events like the conventions, debates, “bad weekends”…their simulations seem to take two days to have any statistically meaningful change. So start watching there by Thursday morning and that will tell you who “won” the debate.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:59:18am

re: #21 Jenner7

Fox News is covering her rally. Damn.

You can’t catch her collapsing on stage if you don’t watch.

//

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 10:59:25am

THIS is the expression after you just won.

Instagram

When you have a really, really good night. #SheWon

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:00:31am

re: #52 Big Steve

As far as I care the only analysis that means anything is the FiveThirtyEight model (projects.fivethirtyeight.com) that uses all reputable state and national polls and runs 10,000 simulations each time. They give odds from their results. Trump had been creeping back into it over the last month. After big events like the conventions, debates, “bad weekends”…their simulations seem to take two days to have any statistically meaningful change. So start watching there by Thursday morning and that will tell you who “won” the debate.

Did you skip reading here yesterday?

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Big Steve  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:01:58am

re: #55 wrenchwench

I “skipped” reading here for like the last four years.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:02:15am

re: #54 Dr. Matt

THIS is the expression after you just won.

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yup. no need to go out and spin anything

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:02:57am

re: #52 Big Steve

538 is more volatile than some of the other aggregator/analyst pollsters. Princeton Election Consortium PEC (Sam Wang) has been more consistent, but still shows Clinton likely with a significant win.

NYT and Reuters likewise show Trump losing consistently.

Only in these online polls do you see Trump ahead.

As Wang noted yesterday there’s less volatility than 538’s Silver says is occurring. Clinton has had a consistent lead, which is likely to get even larger after the polls this week come in (those that were taken on or after the debate ended).

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nines09  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:03:19am

Of course all the Trump supporters will say he won. Right now they would call a handful of shit diamonds in the rough. The real winners are the folks who were not really tuned in as of yet, and thanks to the media ignoring the facts about Trump, didn’t really have a handle on it. They saw a bit of the real Donald last night. Blowhard. Liar. Uptight. Smirking. Losing. Unprepared and undignified. My friends who hate Hillary and support Trump only saw what the rest of his dolts did. Just what they wanted to. I feel a bit better today but am still disheartened by the blindness of some. Kremlin? Putin? Taxes? Bankruptcies? Stiffing hard working people? Graft? Ignore all that. Hillary bad.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:03:50am

re: #57 dangerman

yup. no need to go out and spin anything

I’m not spinning anything, I just win all the time. Here, look at this online poll at this website that’s really nice to me all time.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:04:43am
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Skip Intro  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:05:06am

Donald Trump Just Kept Getting Worse

I felt like I was watching the political Titanic hit the iceberg, back up, and hit it again. Just for fun.

nationalreview.com

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:06:18am

Rush Limbaugh: Clinton Came Off As “A Witch With A Capital B” During Debate

I’m actually surprised it look THIS long for the deplorables to start dropping the B-references.

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:07:21am

re: #56 Big Steve

I “skipped” reading here for like the last four years.

You’ve been in and out the last couple of weeks, but apparently missed yesterday’s discussion of 538.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:07:26am

re: #63 Dr. Matt

Rush Limbaugh: Clinton Came Off As “A Witch With A Capital B” During Debate

I’m actually surprised it look THIS long for the deplorables to start dropping the B-references.

I’ve already seen a Twitter Deplorable label Clinton with the “C” word. So it’s not surprising that Limbo would go there.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:08:23am

It’s a culture war - not a debate.

Trump doesn’t care about facts. Trump supporters don’t care about facts or logic. Only that women and minorities are kept in their proper places. That’s what this is about. That’s why Trump says what he does - and minorities and women are exposing all the misogyny and bigotry for all to see.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:08:40am

re: #62 Skip Intro

And still they skip over his abysmal ignorance about NATO countries participating in the war in Afghanistan, and his suggestion that the Iraq war would have been improved if we committed war crimes.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:08:55am

as long as were piling on

fineman

starting with:

Republican nominee Donald Trump turned in the worst ― and I mean worst ― debate performance in modern times. It was so bad that in a normal year, it would disqualify him from getting anywhere near the White House.

though ending with a reference to bentsen and quayle:

“I knew Jack Kennedy,” Bentsen said, “and you are no Jack Kennedy.”

The debate was over that instant.

The effect on Monday was cumulative. If words matter and the rational reigns in American politics, then this would be a heavy blow to Trump’s chances.

We’ll see if it is. In the meantime, let’s not forget that Quayle ended up being vice president.

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Frankie Five Angels  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:09:01am

Limbaugh quoted all of these Internet polls showing Cheeto Jesus winning by 60 points ten minutes ago.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:10:15am

re: #69 Frankie Five Angels

Limbaugh quoted all of these Internet polls showing Cheeto Jesus winning by 60 points ten minutes ago.

Election day is going to be hard for them.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:10:28am

re: #69 Frankie Five Angels

Limbaugh quoted all of these Internet polls showing Cheeto Jesus winning by 60 points ten minutes ago.

The Deplorables truly live within their own reality.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:10:37am

re: #63 Dr. Matt

Rush Limbaugh: Clinton Came Off As “A Witch With A Capital B” During Debate

I’m actually surprised it look THIS long for the deplorables to start dropping the B-references.

unless you’ve called a previous presidential party nominee a dick, this is misogynistic bullshit

the mans a pig

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Big Steve  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:10:54am

re: #64 wrenchwench

Yes because I was working yesterday…..I am trying to earn enough to reach Trump status and not have to pay taxes.

And yes 538 is more volatile that other models but it becomes less so the closer to elections because its weighting increases toward high grade poll results as the election nears.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:11:10am

re: #70 Sir John Barron

Election day is going to be hard for them.

I, on the other hand, will enjoy it immensely.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:11:25am

re: #62 Skip Intro

Donald Trump Just Kept Getting Worse

nationalreview.com

I so want to read it, but I really don’t want to read it.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:12:19am

re: #70 Sir John Barron

Election day is going to be hard for them.

the 8 years after not so good either

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:13:15am

re: #75 Belafon

I so want to read it, but I really don’t want to read it.

It’s not long.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:13:24am

re: #73 Big Steve

Yes because I was working yesterday…..I am trying to earn enough to reach Trump status and not have to pay taxes.

And yes 538 is more volatile that other models but it becomes less so the closer to elections because its weighting increases toward high grade poll results as the election nears.

So, it’s become the Rasmussen of polling aggregates.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:15:34am

Comment on Charles Pierce’s Esquire Facebook thread about the debate cracked me up:

Peter Piper: “Cruz recent embrace of the Trumpster may be remembered as the first recorded account of a rat jumping onto a sinking ship.”

The commenters there are giddy, and the usual trolls have not shown up.

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:15:42am

re: #73 Big Steve

Yes because I was working yesterday…..I am trying to earn enough to reach Trump status and not have to pay taxes.

I’m ‘working’ every day when I’m here. Yesterday I mailed off my taxes for the last two years (on my lunch break). The filled-out forms, anyway. They’ll send me a tiny bill.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:15:50am

So I’ve been busy (still am) plus a bit nervous because of the shitty polls, so I’m on an intermittent leave.

Anyway, cool that my fear about Trump’s demagoguery winning the debates has not been realized so far. Hopefully it will be the same during the other two debates.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:16:54am

re: #79 retired cynic

Also a lot of people noting the appearance of a cocaine issue, with the crash after about an hour.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:17:58am

heh

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:18:40am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“We whupped you Yankees at Manassass, and at Fredericksburg and at Chancellorsville and at Winchester…”

“Then how come you lost the war?”

“We musta got worn out whuppin’ you all the time!”

That’s like the, probably apocryphal, story of an American officer and NVA officer meeting after the Vietnam War.

American: You know, you never beat us in the field.

NVA: That is true. It is also irrelevant.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:18:50am

He’s a dummy.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:19:56am

Spent some time on the road this morning and flipped between MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN on the satellite radio. Couple of things surprised me:

1. All the commentators seem to think that Trump won early on trade. While it may have been his high point, sea level is a high point compared to Death Valley. I thought even then he came off as an ass who offered nothing.

2. Nobody has mentioned that the crowd reactions were not positive reactions for Trump. Mostly it seemed to be that the audience was laughing at him not with him.

Things that didn’t surprise me: Fox News was critical of Holt for not asking questions about the email server, and Benghazi, and the basket of deplorables.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:20:21am

re: #85 jaunte

Trump doesn’t understand NATO treaty, issues on first use, war crimes in seizing Iraq oil, and even basics like ISIS has no oil in Libya.

Neither do his supporters, so they’re a perfect match.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:20:38am

the bar set for trump was disturbingly low

he tripped on it and fell over it face down

apparently thats what a lot of people are calling a win

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:20:41am

re: #85 jaunte

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He’s a dummy.

I bet donald doesn’t even know the actual words for the acronym NATO.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:20:51am
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:21:15am

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet donald doesn’t even know the actual words for the acronym NATO.

Gotcha question!

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:21:30am

re: #79 retired cynic

Comment on Charles Pierce’s Esquire Facebook thread about the debate cracked me up:

Peter Piper: “Cruz recent embrace of the Trumpster may be remembered as the first recorded account of a rat jumping onto a sinking ship.”

The commenters there are giddy, and the usual trolls have not shown up.

scared my cats for like the third time today

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:21:32am

re: #23 dangerman

he’s blaming the mic and the moderator

he knows he lost

I commented last night, right after the debate was finished he would complain that mic was too hot and it made him sound bad.

What do I win? I hope my prize is Hillary wins bigly!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:22:15am

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet donald doesn’t even know the actual words for the acronym NATO.

Not A Trump Operation

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:22:20am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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MIOLLION!!!!

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:22:38am

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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yeah. winners do that

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Big Steve  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:22:43am

re: #84 Romantic Heretic

That’s like the, probably apocryphal, story of an American officer and NVA officer meeting after the Vietnam War.

American: You know, you never beat us in the field.

NVA: That is true. It is also irrelevant.

Well as one of those “in the field” in my youth, it was relevant to my health and well-being that the NVA never beat us in the field.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:22:54am

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

MIOLLION LABE!!!!

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:24:20am

re: #86 KGxvi


Things that didn’t surprise me: Fox News was critical of Holt for not asking questions about the email server, and Benghazi, and the basket of deplorables.

you know, non policy issues

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:24:44am
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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:24:56am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

The police stripe that is usually used to denote a disaster. How fitting.

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William Lewis  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:25:04am

Love early voting. My straight Democrat ballot is cast and I feel good about it.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:25:12am

re: #29 makeitstop

Now that he’s gotten his ass whupped in the first debate, he’ll naturally assume that he wasn’t ‘tough enough’ on Hillary and adjust accordingly.

The next debate is going to be the ‘campaign speech’ Trump, guaranteed. And once those 100 million viewers get a load of that asshole, it’ll truly be a wrap.

He’s either going to slink off and not debate again or go nuclear in the next. There is no middle grown with Trump.

I have the over night thread open, still trying to catch up…had a busy morning. I am amazed at how much sniffling (crying this time) the big tough Don is doing. For someone so big and tough he sure whines and makes a lot of excuses when he gets beat.

So not presidential.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:26:03am

re: #99 dangerman

you know, non policy issues

Don’t you know that those are the issues that voters are constantly worried about because the media spends every day constantly telling them how they’re worried about them?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:26:03am

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet donald doesn’t even know the actual words for the acronym NATO.

What are you, some kind of elitist Leftist?

/

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:26:11am

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet donald doesn’t even know the actual words for the acronym NATO.

probably never even heard of SEATO

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:26:31am

re: #72 dangerman

unless you’ve called a previous presidential party nominee a dick, this is misogynistic bullshit

the mans a pig

I’m fairly sure I’ve called previous presidential nominees worse than “dick”. But, here’s the thing, I’ve long been critical of Hillary Clinton - last night she legitimately impressed me. She kept her cool as Trump proceeded to be an asshole, she made him look a fool, she touched on plans and ideas but didn’t get over wonky, she looked human. I was particularly impressed by her “I made a mistake” answer on the email server. I genuinely do not understand how anyone could watch that debate and think that Clinton didn’t look competent, composed, and quite frankly… presidential.

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Franklin  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:26:34am

(saw on twitter last night, not my joke…)

Defective Mike is Donald Trumps coke dealer.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:26:42am

re: #106 dangerman

probably never even heard of SEATO

Debate moderator should definitely ask Trump to say what the acronyms mean.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:27:02am

re: #39 Sir John Barron

Trump seems particularly fixated on himself and his “winning”.

No!!!

I can’t believe that. /

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:27:12am

It looks like Donald Trump was not the only one snorting cocaine during the debate==>

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:27:39am

re: #93 ObserverArt

I commented last night, right after the debate was finished he would complain that mic was too hot and it made him sound bad.

What do I win? I hope my prize is Hillary wins bigly!

any prizes will be redirected to your foundation

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:27:48am

re: #106 dangerman

probably never even heard of SEATO

it’s a Mexican chair…

/////////////////////

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:28:25am

The whole “Trump looked good” argument at the beginning is not really a point in Trump’s favor. It’s like saying that a rocket launch looked beautiful for the first few seconds…before it exploded on the pad and killed everyone around it.

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Franklin  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:28:27am

re: #108 Franklin

(saw on twitter last night, not my joke…)

Defective Mike is Donald Trumps coke dealer.

Ahhh, here it is…it was from Imani:

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:29:27am

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

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if only cartoon physics would have kicked in with that window shade

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:30:40am

re: #63 Dr. Matt

Rush Limbaugh: Clinton Came Off As “A Witch With A Capital B” During Debate

I’m actually surprised it look THIS long for the deplorables to start dropping the B-references.

Hey Rush. “A” comes before “B”…Asshole.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:31:03am

Is a 4th grader doing Jill Stein’s campaign graphics?

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Big Steve  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:31:10am

re: #107 KGxvi

I’m fairly sure I’ve called previous presidential nominees worse than “dick”. But, here’s the thing, I’ve long been critical of Hillary Clinton - last night she legitimately impressed me. She kept her cool as Trump proceeded to be an asshole, she made him look a fool, she touched on plans and ideas but didn’t get over wonky, she looked human. I was particularly impressed by her “I made a mistake” answer on the email server. I genuinely do not understand how anyone could watch that debate and think that Clinton didn’t look competent, composed, and quite frankly… presidential.

I am very much with you. I really dislike Clinton’s approach to economic issues which is “tax the rich, and create government programs to give the money away.” Nonetheless, I too was impressed with her tone and leadership. How a president reacts to the unforeseen is really the most important thing we have to judge them on. I believe that Hillary will listen to advisers and also know when to ignore her advisers. I went into the debate seriously neutral. Clinton won hands down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:32:18am
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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:32:33am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

In the next picture (not shown here) Jill poops on the stage to show’em.

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TedStriker  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:32:34am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Is a 4th grader doing Jill Stein’s campaign graphics?

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:32:53am

re: #66 lawhawk

It’s a culture war - not a debate.

Trump doesn’t care about facts. Trump supporters don’t care about facts or logic. Only that women and minorities are kept in their proper places. That’s what this is about. That’s why Trump says what he does - and minorities and women are exposing all the misogyny and bigotry for all to see.

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That image is a good study of body language. Hillary has that one leg back showing how relaxed she is and the Orange Oaf is all hunched and tight bellowing as she calmly prepares to launch the next round.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:33:06am

re: #107 KGxvi

I’m fairly sure I’ve called previous presidential nominees worse than “dick”. But, here’s the thing, I’ve long been critical of Hillary Clinton - last night she legitimately impressed me. She kept her cool as Trump proceeded to be an asshole, she made him look a fool, she touched on plans and ideas but didn’t get over wonky, she looked human. I was particularly impressed by her “I made a mistake” answer on the email server. I genuinely do not understand how anyone could watch that debate and think that Clinton didn’t look competent, composed, and quite frankly… presidential.

i have too.
i was referring specifically to limbaugh

the answer to your last line/question is vehement visceral hate -

probably plus some rage losing to the first woman following the first AA

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:33:44am

re: #120 Big Steve

“tax the rich, and create government programs to give the money away.”

Personally, I’m fond of increasing spending on schools, health care, and infrastructure, and I think the wealthy have gotten away with not paying for what they’ve taken advantage of over the last 40 years.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:34:25am

re: #70 Sir John Barron

Election day is going to be hard for them.

Is Rush finally going to leave the country? Gee…I hope…and he can take Teddy Nugent and others with him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:35:28am

re: #126 Belafon

Personally, I’m fond of increasing spending on schools, health care, and infrastructure, and I think the wealthy have gotten away with not paying for what they’ve taken advantage of over the last 40 years.

Agreed, although I’m okay with cutting back on “giveaways” such as the defense industry.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:35:30am

re: #109 Sir John Barron

Debate moderator should definitely ask Trump to say what the acronyms mean.

you wanna be the leader of the free world and run foreign policy? you should be able to demonstrate *some* grasp of the current world situation *and* history. and the implications of what did happen, didnt, should have etc. foreign policy did not start on 9/11 (no disrespect)

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:36:37am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s a Mexican chair…

/////////////////////

you could almost see him saying that….

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:36:38am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:36:52am
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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:37:05am

Fox News is laying cover fire for Trump.

Read his whole tweet storm. It’s a thing of beauty showing how Fox is actively lying to their viewers regarding this one specific issue.

Now repeat that across the board, and that’s what Fox does on a daily basis.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:37:36am

re: #131 Kragar

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:38:19am

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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It has been very telling how quiet all the GOP current office holders have been the last three months.

I know they have been goofing off on vacation, etc., but in an election year to not hear them out stumping and on TV etc. seems very different.

I guess they all are making sure they don’t get any Trump on them. Even seen mentioning him may be political career killing.

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Dragonomics  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:39:28am

Trump and his supporters want to award the loser a trophy for showing up.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:41:10am

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Agreed, although I’m okay with cutting back on “giveaways” such as the defense industry.

Agree with that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:41:46am

When well-meaning legislation goes bad:

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:42:41am

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Agreed, although I’m okay with cutting back on “giveaways” such as the defense industry.

you and belafon are already at the second level of the discussion - which programs, how much do they get etc. (and im not disagreeing)

theres not even basic agreement that these are governments role

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:42:42am

re: #136 Dragonomics

Trump and his supporters want to award the loser a trophy for showing up.

Which Republicans scream all the time is ruining our children.

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allegro  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:43:20am

re: #120 Big Steve

I really dislike Clinton’s approach to economic issues which is “tax the rich, and create government programs to give the money away.”

Interesting. What I hear is “tax the rich and use the money to fund desperately needed infrastructure programs, clean energy innovations, childcare solutions, improved educational opportunities for all, and livable wage jobs that will help rebuild a strong middle class and sound economy.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:44:07am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:44:21am
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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:46:26am

re: #134 lawhawk

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you werent there because your polling sux because nobody wants your solutions

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Skip Intro  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:47:08am

re: #75 Belafon

I so want to read it, but I really don’t want to read it.

Don’t bother. I posted the good part.

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Varek Raith  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:48:18am

Good afternoon.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:49:18am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:51:12am

Someone needs to make another meme showing all of Donald Trump’s resorts and golf clubs in these countries.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:51:37am

re: #141 allegro

I really dislike Clinton’s approach to economic issues which is “tax the rich, and create government programs to give the money away.”

Interesting. What I hear is “tax the rich and use the money to fund desperately needed infrastructure programs, clean energy innovations, childcare solutions, improved educational opportunities for all, and livable wage jobs that will help rebuild a strong middle class and sound economy.”

it is more than possible for some near the top to be under taxed while others in the middle and lower middle are over taxed

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:51:41am

ProTip to Trump: When you yell into a mic, it WILL crackle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:53:50am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:54:33am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

I wasn’t there, but I knocked Clinton + Trump off the #debates stage w/ my solutions! #OccupyTheDebates @MorSpicer pic.twitter.com
— Dr. Jill Stein

Hi, who are you again? Oh right, sorry, not interested in having my windows done or switching to Comcast. Have a good day.

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unproven innocence  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:54:47am

re: #138 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When well-meaning legislation goes bad:

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:55:15am

re: #133 lawhawk

This is, for lack of a better word, complete bullshit from Fox News.foxnews.com pic.twitter.com
— andrew kaczynski

Well that’s their whole business model.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:55:21am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

Someone needs to make another meme showing all of Donald Trump’s resorts and golf clubs in these countries.

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james, dude, you moving?
31 states (and the federal government) have a valid death penalty statute. i’d guess including the one you live in.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:56:34am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

image back to what we thought we knew and thought we would find when all these probe missions were launched

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:56:57am

Cuteness break:

Instagram

Friendship 😍 😍
#babyanimalhd

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:57:20am
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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:57:42am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

“Breakfast on the grass.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:57:53am

re: #120 Big Steve

I am very much with you. I really dislike Clinton’s approach to economic issues which is “tax the rich, and create government programs to give the money away.” Nonetheless, I too was impressed with her tone and leadership. How a president reacts to the unforeseen is really the most important thing we have to judge them on. I believe that Hillary will listen to advisers and also know when to ignore her advisers. I went into the debate seriously neutral. Clinton won hands down.

Big Steve, second time you posted that similar comment. I hope you realize the tax rate for top earners hasn’t been the same since the trickle down days.

You might just do a Googel search on Reagan budget guru and use terms like “David Stockman trickle down economics doesn’t work”

You’ll see all kinds of articles from when he came out in 2010 and told everyone it was dumb and we (The USA) will need to raise taxes to repair the damage done.

Here is a Daily KOS link, but in case you may think KOS is too-left leaning then follow some of the links in the article.

DailyKOS - David Stockman on Starving the Beast: “It doesn’t work. Game over.”

And a big quote from Stockman in that article…

You can keep cutting taxes until you reach the point where this year, the year just ended, we spent 3.6 trillion and we only collected 2.2. We are now so far out of kilter that it’s irrelevant. Taxes are going to have to be raised. The beast needs to be trimmed back, but it can’t be starved enough to even begin to cope with our fiscal problem. And this is where I think all the politicians are faking, in both parties but the Republicans especially. The Republicans think their mission in life is to cut taxes. Sorry, game over. We’re now in the tax raising business, and we’re going to be in the tax-raising business for the next decade.

I used bold in the quote the same as in the article.

It’s time to do what is right and what the tax structures have been in the past. That would be the glory days after WW2 that brought about the big boom years and paid off the war debt.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:58:19am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

Someone needs to make another meme showing all of Donald Trump’s resorts and golf clubs in these countries.

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Can’t see the pic. Is James having a sad? Anyone do a welfare check on Scott Adams Says to see what Scott Adams Says? Actually, never mind. I don’t care. Just being polite.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:59:34am

On National Voter Registration Day, a U.S. District Court in Illinois granted a motion blocking the state’s same-day voter registration program.

The program has been offered by counties with populations greater than 100,000. Shortly after a pilot version of the program proved to be a success during the 2014 election, a bill making it a permanent feature of the state’s election law was signed by outgoing Gov. Pat Quinn (D). More than 110,000 voters registered on election day last March.

But, as ThinkProgress has previously reported, members of the Illinois Republican Party sued a couple months ago to block the program. They argue it gives unfair advantage to Democratic candidates who generally do well in high-population counties.

In a ruling issued Tuesday, U.S. District Court Judge Samuel Der-Teghiayan granted the Republicans’ motion for a preliminary injunction shutting down the program for now.

“The application of this legislation favors the urban citizen and dilutes the vote of the rural citizen,” Der-Teghiayan writes. “The Supreme Court has made it clear that legislation cannot ‘restrict the political participation of some in order to enhance the relative influence of others.’”

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Scottishdragon  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:59:34am

re: #12 jaunte

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We’re gonna need a bigger basket.

Dreher was complaining about that last night…just before he put up a piece on how conservative Catholicism is NOT COMPATIBLE with democracy.

Not. Kidding.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 11:59:51am

TRUMP PROPERTIES
Saudi Arabia: THC Jeddah Hotel Advisor, Plaza Hotel, Trump Tower
Dubai: Trump International Golf Club, Trump Home Partnership
Kuwait: Trump Home Partnership
Qatar: Qatar Airways headquarters in Trump Tower
Azerbaijan: Trump Tower in Baku

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:00:14pm

re: #135 ObserverArt

It has been very telling how quiet all the GOP current office holders have been the last three months.

I know they have been goofing off on vacation, etc., but in an election year to not hear them out stumping and on TV etc. seems very different.

I guess they all are making sure they don’t get any Trump on them. Even seen mentioning him may be political career killing.

Disagree with your conclusion, if not with the gist of the statement: You’re right about the “regular” GOP and its reps (comparatively) fading into the background this election cycle - at least on the national level: but most polling I’ve seen so far depressingly gives the Democrats at beast a 50-50 chance to retake control of the Senate, and that the House (AFAICT) is still going to be firmly in Republican hands. Hands, I am sure, which will be spending at least the next two years flinging as many wrenches into the Clinton Administration’s gears as they possible can.
I think most state/local GOP officeholders are probably concentrating on their own races and hoping the stench at the top of the ticket won’t waft down. It’s probably a wise move: regardless of the Presidential results, “coattails” aren’t what they used to be;local politics aren’t likely to move much, and the Democrats are still going to be viewed as the Party Of Satan in way too much of this country.

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Tigger2  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:00:28pm
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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:01:24pm

Yesterday, at one point 538 had Hillary’s chance of winning down to 51%. Today, it has bounced up a bit to 55.8%

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:01:54pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The application of this legislation favors the urban citizen and dilutes the vote of the rural citizen,” Der-Teghiayan writes. “The Supreme Court has made it clear that legislation cannot ‘restrict the political participation of some in order to enhance the relative influence of others.’”

he quoted that with a straight face?

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:03:17pm

re: #138 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When well-meaning legislation goes bad:

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I’m fairly surprised there wasn’t an exception for books and artwork. I’ve dealt with plenty of movie and sports memorabilia over the years as a collector and occasional seller - and I get the need for a law like this. I wouldn’t be surprised if a solid 35% (or more) of autographed items are faked. My guess is that a patch for books and artwork will be coming fairly quickly.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:04:19pm

re: #163 Scottishdragon

Dreher was complaining about that last night…just before he put up a piece on how conservative Catholicism is NOT COMPATIBLE with democracy.

Not. Kidding.

Ah, well, Democracy, Republican government, the Constitution. Pluralism. Freedom of ideas, beliefs, association. These have all gotten rather tiring and don’t satisfy the deep ontological philiontoligy longings of the ancient orthodoxian spiritual quests for absolute authority.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:04:25pm

re: #168 dangerman

he quoted that with a straight face?

apparently so

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:04:25pm

KEVLAR JACKET YOU FREAKING DEPLORABLES

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:04:28pm

re: #150 Dr. Matt

ProTip to Trump: When you yell into a mic, it WILL crackle.

I think his mic “problem” is he thinks it was set to pick up all the sniffles.

You know, some wiz-bang sound man probably had a very intense many channeled equalizer on his mike that only had a certain range of sounds (middle high) that over emphasized the sniffles.

Or something.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:04:33pm

re: #168 dangerman

He seems to have a problem understanding the concept of “restricting participation.”

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Varek Raith  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:05:40pm

Coughing prevention machine?
Lulz.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:05:48pm

re: #164 The Vicious Babushka

TRUMP PROPERTIES
Saudi Arabia: THC Jeddah Hotel Advisor, Plaza Hotel, Trump Tower
Dubai: Trump International Golf Club, Trump Home Partnership
Kuwait: Trump Home Partnership
Qatar: Qatar Airways headquarters in Trump Tower
Azerbaijan: Trump Tower in Baku

And there’s other business dealings that aren’t immediately visible, because Trump’s anything but transparent in his dealings. See his dealings with Russian business interests, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:05:57pm

re: #173 ObserverArt

I think his mic “problem” is he thinks it was set to pick up all the sniffles.

You know, some wiz-bang sound man probably had a very intense many channeled equalizer on his mike that only had a certain range of sounds (middle high) that over emphasized the sniffles.

Or something.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:05:58pm

re: #167 Dr. Matt

Yesterday, at one point 538 had Hillary’s chance of winning down to 51%. Today, it has bounced up a bit to 55.8%

I wonder what recent polls shifted that or is it just the constant rerunning of the same numbers?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:06:24pm

re: #169 KGxvi

I’m fairly surprised there wasn’t an exception for books and artwork. I’ve dealt with plenty of movie and sports memorabilia over the years as a collector and occasional seller - and I get the need for a law like this. I wouldn’t be surprised if a solid 35% (or more) of autographed items are faked. My guess is that a patch for books and artwork will be coming fairly quickly.

Oh, I think the intentions were solid and a fix is not too complicated to do, but there definitely does need to be a fix.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:07:38pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:08:44pm
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calochortus  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:09:24pm

I, for one, would like to encourage Trump and his supporters to focus heavily on on-line polling results for the next 4 or 5 weeks. No need to get out the vote or anything when you’re winning that bigly on line!

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:10:00pm

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile, Roger Stone admits the reason that Trump doesn’t button his jacket - it’s because the kevlar protection is too uncomfortable and constricting.

Why doesn’t he wear his jacket with the button closed?

That’s the answer. Clinton has had years of experience wearing kevlar protection as part of the first family; and even though the technology has gotten better, it’s still bulky and uncomfortable.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:10:05pm

re: #180 Belafon

Legislation that enhances participation is not restricting participation.

Without reading the entire decision, I can at least see the basis for the reasoning. If you have a law that only allows certain parts of the state to benefit, then it becomes a problem. That said, the 100,000 cut off for population strikes me as fairly reasonable (unless it turns out that there are only a handful of counties that meet that criteria).

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:10:18pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Suspect is an Asian male, 20s, goatee, dark blue dress shirt with embroidery on the chest. If seen in the area of @StanfordShop, call 9-1-1.
— Palo Alto Police (@PaloAltoPolice) September 27, 2016

Found him!

I should have been a LEO.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:10:23pm

re: #182 calochortus

I, for one, would like to encourage Trump and his supporters to focus heavily on on-line polling results for the next 4 or 5 weeks. No need to get out the vote or anything when you’re winning that bigly on line!

You bet, we here are totes scared of Trump’s Very Hugely Bigly Winning in the Online Polls.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:11:02pm

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

KEVLAR JACKET YOU FREAKING DEPLORABLES

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Remember the exact same (type of) photo with Bush? People were also wondering back then :D

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:11:52pm

re: #180 Belafon

Legislation that enhances participation is not restricting participation.

if one side gets an advantage from it we cant have that rule
it would non-artificially rebalance things to more reflect the voting populace

or put simply, more people want to register D, and there may be more D’s overall so we cant allow that

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:11:57pm
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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:12:14pm

re: #187 Nyet

Remember the exact same (type of) photo with Bush? People were also wondering back then :D

salon.com

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gwangung  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:12:16pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:12:56pm

They’re not even bothering to hide.

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Kilroy01  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:13:13pm

re: #187 Nyet

Remember the exact same (type of) photo with Bush? People were also wondering back then :D

This one?

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:13:35pm

re: #165 Jay C

Disagree with your conclusion, if not with the gist of the statement: You’re right about the “regular” GOP and its reps (comparatively) fading into the background this election cycle - at least on the national level: but most polling I’ve seen so far depressingly gives the Democrats at beast a 50-50 chance to retake control of the Senate, and that the House (AFAICT) is still going to be firmly in Republican hands. Hands, I am sure, which will be spending at least the next two years flinging as many wrenches into the Clinton Administration’s gears as they possible can.
I think most state/local GOP officeholders are probably concentrating on their own races and hoping the stench at the top of the ticket won’t waft down. It’s probably a wise move: regardless of the Presidential results, “coattails” aren’t what they used to be;local politics aren’t likely to move much, and the Democrats are still going to be viewed as the Party Of Satan in way too much of this country.

I wasn’t making any assumption about actual election results and change of congress etc. I was simply stating the big GOP already elected and safe in their seats politicians are not out and about and how unusual that is.

To me that is telling. Not about their’s or other’s races…just that they are not out boasting about Trump. Sometime an observation can just be a simple view of a slice in time.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:14:35pm

re: #183 lawhawk

There could be another explanation:

A TRUMPIAN CANDIDATE ON TRUMP’S CORSET

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Varek Raith  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:14:39pm

re: #190 Nyet

salon.com

Clearly a charging adapter cable.
/Sheesh.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:15:11pm

re: #191 gwangung

Shaking my head.

Viewers judged Trump and Clinton equally honest during the debate.

probably the same four out of five dentists that recommend sugarless gum

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:15:22pm

re: #196 Varek Raith

Clearly a charging adapter cable.
/Sheesh.

They’re not Reptiloids, they’re all androids! Call Alex Jones!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:15:34pm

Here is an alt-right fantasy version of last night’s debate==>
(In spoilers because it’s Ben Garrison)

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:16:40pm

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

Trump depicted as Ivan Drago with a pompadour.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:17:01pm

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

So Ben is saying here that the moderator’s questions were fair and factual?

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:17:25pm

re: #155 dangerman

james, dude, you moving?
31 states (and the federal government) have a valid death penalty statute. i’d guess including the one you live in.

The chart is about penalties for homosexuality.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:17:37pm

re: #191 gwangung

Shaking my head.

Viewers judged Trump and Clinton equally honest during the debate.

And yet she still won. Most viewers aren’t as in tune as we are and don’t know the bullshit that Trump spews. That’s why it’s as important for Clinton to talk about Trump as it is for her to talk about her own plan.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:18:02pm

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

yeah but nobody asked him those questions

he was asked to explain things he previously said and did (or wont do)

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Scottishdragon  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:18:38pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump declared war on the former Miss Universe on Fox & friends this morning.

He went full metal Khan against a Latina beauty pageant winner from 20 years ago.

On Fox News.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:20:26pm

re: #192 jaunte

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They’re not even bothering to hide.

What’s the pic of?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:21:14pm

re: #207 Sir John Barron

What’s the pic of?

Map clustering around St. Petersburg, Russia.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:21:41pm

re: #207 Sir John Barron

IP addresses, St. Petersburg.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:23:08pm

Every Donald Trump Sniff from the Debate

Every Donald Trump Sniff from the Debate

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:23:15pm

re: #184 KGxvi

Without reading the entire decision, I can at least see the basis for the reasoning. If you have a law that only allows certain parts of the state to benefit, then it becomes a problem. That said, the 100,000 cut off for population strikes me as fairly reasonable (unless it turns out that there are only a handful of counties that meet that criteria).

I tend to agree if you are going to allow same day registration you have to offer it to everyone in the state, not just people in largish population centers.

Quick look up shows there are 102 counties in Illinois and only 20 of them have a population over 100,000

illinois-demographics.com

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:24:10pm

re: #209 jaunte

So basically Trump wins the Russian citizen vote. But we already knew that.

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freetoken  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:24:27pm

re: #191 gwangung

IJR is a right-wing prop site masquerading as a news outlet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:24:39pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:24:56pm

Salutin’ Putin: inside a Russian troll house

“…The nondescript building has been identified as the headquarters of Russia’s “troll army”, where hundreds of paid bloggers work round the clock to flood Russian internet forums, social networks and the comments sections of western publications with remarks praising the president, Vladimir Putin, and raging at the depravity and injustice of the west.”

$790 a month.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:24:58pm

re: #210 Dr. Matt

Every Donald Trump Sniff from the Debate

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Video

He should prove he doesn’t have nose cancer. It’s only fair.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:26:15pm

re: #216 Nyet

He should prove he doesn’t have nose cancer. It’s only fair.

And he should take a drug to prove he’s not using coke.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:26:18pm

re: #215 jaunte

BTW, how can one look up where a hashtag originated?

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:28:40pm

Scary when NR begins to make sense…

If you’re a geopolitical rival of the United States, Trump is a delight. He’s America’s leading Putin apologist, wasting several agonizing turns in the debate defending Russia from the charge of meddling in U.S. elections and bizarrely wondering if a “400-pound” man “sitting on their bed” hacked Democratic National Committee e-mails. He said he hasn’t “given lots of thought to NATO” and then went ahead and proved the truth of that statement by fundamentally misunderstanding the alliance. He treats it as a glorified protection racket whereby NATO countries allegedly pay us to defend Europe and they’re not paying what they owe. He even doubled down on his claim — an incredibly bizarre claim given Russia’s military resurgence — that NATO “could be obsolete.” This is of course music to Vladimir Putin’s ears, but it’s deeply threatening to American national security. America isn’t in the NATO alliance out of altruism.

Read more at: nationalreview.com

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:28:57pm

re: #206 Scottishdragon

Trump declared war on the former Miss Universe on Fox & friends this morning.

He went full metal Khan against a Latina beauty pageant winner from 20 years ago.

On Fox News.

But I though he was complaining about Hillary bringing up the past.

Oh, that’s right. Hillary doing it is the problem. Trump attacking her now…never mind.

Dig that hole Donny…dig it deep and wide.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:29:30pm

I hope no voting machines are in any way connected to the Internet.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:30:17pm

re: #218 Nyet

BTW, how can one look up where a hashtag originated?

I think there are some analytical tools that can be used to do it, but I don’t know how.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:31:02pm

“What would you like to track in real-time?”
keyhole.co

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:31:14pm

re: #211 danarchy

I tend to agree if you are going to allow same day registration you have to offer it to everyone in the state, not just people in largish population centers.

Quick look up shows there are 102 counties in Illinois and only 20 of them have a population over 100,000

illinois-demographics.com

It’s a pilot program started in 2014. Smaller counties offered same day registration at the main county office because, the rationale went, requiring it at all polling locations might have placed too much of a financial burden on smaller county budgets.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:32:06pm
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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:32:33pm

re: #225 Nyet

“This site can’t be reached”

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:32:53pm

re: #226 Nyet

oh ok

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:33:19pm

re: #226 Nyet

Misspelling?
trendsmap.com

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:34:45pm

Basic subscription, $90/year
trendsmap.com

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SpaceJesus  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:34:54pm
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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:35:29pm

re: #230 SpaceJesus

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:35:32pm

So, if money is any gauge of how well people think the candidates would be as president, I would like to present 2 items.
Yesterday, before the debates the stock market dropped. Today, with everyone except online polls saying Clinton won, it’s up.
Yesterday, before the debates, the betting odds for Clinton had been dropping for a couple days. Today, Clinton is up about 5 points from yesterday’s number.

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majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:35:55pm

re: #210 Dr. Matt

“Every Donald Trump Sniff from the Debate”

LOL. Those sniffs weren’t coming from Trump. They were coming from his mic, at least, according to him, or maybe HRC was projecting her sniffs into Trump’s mic because every right-winger who’s voting for Trump knows she has some kind of unidentified health issue.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:36:15pm

re: #232 calochortus

Market’s up, gold is down.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:37:23pm

Though tbh this should be verified (whether the guy used the tool correctly to pinpoint the origin). It’s not like such a generic tag would be hard to start in the US that it would require Russian help…

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:38:23pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:41:19pm

That’s $13Million going directly into Donald’s pocket. Thanks, dumb suckers!

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:42:07pm
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allegro  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:42:42pm

re: #236 gocart mozart

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Jebus, that’s revolting.

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unproven innocence  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:44:13pm

re: #221 Nyet

I hope no voting machines are in any way connected to the Internet.

My condolences.
America’s Electronic Voting Machines Are Scarily Easy Targets

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:45:29pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:45:34pm
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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:46:14pm

Deborah Lipstadt’s / Emory University’s Holocaust Denial on Trial website has recently been retooled and updated, possibly because of the Denial movie that is coming up.

Now it relies extensively on our 2011 anti-denier book (example), as well as on individual articles from our blog (example). It’s a nice feeling when you know that your work hasn’t been in vain.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:46:18pm

Former Miss Universe Alicia Machado is already having her granite coutertops looked at…

Hillary’s Nightmare: Beauty Queen In Clinton’s Trump Attack Linked To Attempted Murder Plot
Alicia Machado was accused of driving a gunman’s getaway car!

radaronline.com

Looks like the same sort of thing wingnuts used to try and attack the Khan family.

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Archangelus  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:49:45pm

Damn, just… damn….

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:50:07pm

re: #240 unproven innocence

My condolences.
America’s Electronic Voting Machines Are Scarily Easy Targets

I still don’t get if those machines are actually connected to the internet.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:50:20pm

re: #240 unproven innocence

“People weren’t thinking about voting system security “

Pardon me while I scream obscenities, Planet-of-the-apes-ending-style.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:51:13pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:51:27pm

re: #245 Archangelus

Damn, just… damn….

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ברוך דיין אמת

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:51:32pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:53:07pm

re: #247 Nyet

“People weren’t thinking about voting system security “

Pardon me while I scream obscenities, Planet-of-the-apes-ending-style.

Krieger - Damn you all to hell!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:53:19pm

Fahrenthold is still doing journalism

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:53:25pm

re: #245 Archangelus

To the family and those who loved him, I offer my condolences.

That kind of wait for news is hard. I hope peace and closure can come soon.

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:53:32pm

re: #246 Belafon

I still don’t get if those machines are actually connected to the internet.

As far as I know, no they are not. The hacking referred to requires actual physical time with the machines to make alterations.

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Archangelus  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:56:11pm

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

ברוך דיין אמת

Technically that’s still too soon, but אמן….

Had the pleasure and honor of meeting Peres on multiple occasions, such a pleasant, warm and brilliant man full of hope for the future… he will be sorely missed in this corner of the planet and around the world in general…

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allegro  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:56:30pm

re: #244 Scottishdragon

Former Miss Universe Alicia Machado is already having her granite coutertops looked at…

radaronline.com

Looks like the same sort of thing wingnuts used to try and attack the Khan family.

As if the racist, misogynist knuckle-draggers need any more of a reason for their disgust than “a Latina woman got fat!” They are so predictable.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:56:46pm

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Fahrenthold is still doing journalism

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oops!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:57:15pm

re: #256 allegro

As if the racist, misogynist knuckle-draggers need any more of a reason for their disgust than “a Latina woman got fat!” They are so predictable.

“fat”:

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:57:40pm

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Fahrenthold is still doing journalism

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Trump gets elected, immediately impeached for numerous violations of the IRS tax code, Pence becomes president.

Fuck me, as if I needed more nightmares right now.

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:58:32pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

He needs to check his eyes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 12:59:44pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:00:59pm
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Scottishdragon  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:01:20pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

“fat”:

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She looks to be at optimum physical shape.

Keep in mind that the camera “adds 10 pounds” so it is possible she could actually still have been below normal weight for her age and build.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:02:53pm

re: #244 Scottishdragon

Former Miss Universe Alicia Machado is already having her granite coutertops looked at…

radaronline.com

Looks like the same sort of thing wingnuts used to try and attack the Khan family.

ACCUSED!!!! THE SAME THING AS CHARGED, TRIED AND CONVICTED!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:03:45pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes but Trump has golf courses all over the world!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:04:30pm
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Archangelus  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:05:29pm

I’m not much of a drinker, but need to rectify that tonight…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:05:53pm

re: #243 Nyet

Now it relies extensively on our 2011 anti-denier book (example),

Your book? Cool.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:06:17pm

re: #264 Sir John Barron

ACCUSED!!!! THE SAME THING AS CHARGED, TRIED AND CONVICTED!!!!

TRUMP ACCUSED OF COCAINE HABIT!!!!!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:06:38pm

Join the fun, download your own blank chyron Spokesdog

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:06:56pm

re: #268 Sir John Barron

littlegreenfootballs.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:07:38pm

re: #267 Archangelus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:08:13pm

re: #267 Archangelus

I’m not much of a drinker, but need to rectify that tonight…

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:08:20pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

“fat”:

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Wait, wait, wait. Look at the man behind her to the right.

Is that Bannon? Sure as fuck looks just like him…

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philosophus invidius  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:08:37pm

Trump at the second debate:

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:08:38pm

re: #237 The Vicious Babushka

That’s $13Million going directly into Donald’s pocket. Thanks, dumb suckers!

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Of course, could just as easily be IN THE LAST 24 HOURS WE’VE RAISED $186 WHOLE DOLLARS IN ONLINE DONATIONS.

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majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:09:32pm

re: #263 Scottishdragon

“She looks to be at optimum physical shape.”

As a female, I think her weight is her business. I also think too much pressure is placed on females at a young age to conform to society’s image of how females should look. Being healthy should be where the main emphasis is placed rather than on optics. I’ve been on the thin side my entire life, and it’s probably due to genetics and my metabolism. I tend to not look at a person’s weight but at his/her intelligence because, for me, a person’s level of intelligence and critical thinking skills are more important than anything else. Trump doesn’t appear to me to be as healthy as he and his doctor are claiming he is. At the end of last night’s debate, Trump looked to me to be exhausted mentally and physically while HRC appeared to be full of energy and as if she were ready for Debate #2 right then and there.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:09:41pm

re: #271 Nyet

littlegreenfootballs.com

Awesome, looks like great work.

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Franklin  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:09:51pm

re: #276 Sir John Barron

Of course, could just as easily be IN THE LAST 24 HOURS WE’VE RAISED $186 WHOLE DOLLARS IN ONLINE DONATIONS CYBER.

Trumpified it for you.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:10:46pm

MSNBC just reported that Trump touted a CBS poll that declared him the winner, but CBS didn’t do a poll.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:11:45pm

re: #267 Archangelus

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:12:07pm

re: #278 Sir John Barron

Thanks!

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MOFO Beaner  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:14:00pm

re: #12 jaunte

Their “family values” were always code for hate and discrimination anyway their embrace of open racism and xenophobia is not a bit surprising

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Scottishdragon  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:14:04pm

re: #277 majii

“She looks to be at optimum physical shape.”

As a female, I think her weight is her business. I also think too much pressure is placed on females at a young age to conform to society’s image of how females should look. Being healthy should be where the main emphasis is placed rather than on optics. I’ve been on the thin side my entire life, and it’s probably due to genetics and my metabolism. I tend to not look at a person’s weight but at his/her intelligence because, for me, a person’s level of intelligence and critical thinking skills are more important than anything else. Trump doesn’t appear to me to be as healthy as he and his doctor are claiming he is. At the end of last night’s debate, Trump looked to me to be exhausted mentally and physically while HRC appeared to be full of energy and as if she was ready for Debate #2 right then and there.

Of course it is her business, although her contract with the Miss Universe Pageant certainly had a variety of clauses about her physical appearance (I have no use for pageants at all). What is obscene is that she was paraded as “a fat pig” that had to improve herself for the male gaze (especially Trump’s) when there was nothing wrong with her weight in the first place.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:14:33pm

re: #262 gocart mozart

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Probably not the best thing for Dean to have said, but then again, hey, as Trump has taught us, words don’t mean anything, nothing matters anyway.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:15:07pm

re: #267 Archangelus

Thinking of you!

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:15:19pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

“fat”:

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I would imagine there is continued pressure on Ivanka Trump to, uh…maintain a certain body image if she wants to be in the business and will.

And no, I am not kidding. He’s a control freak and she is in the family and the relationship seems to have been odd all along.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:16:41pm

re: #284 Scottishdragon

Of course it is her business, although her contract with the Miss Universe Pageant certainly had a variety of clauses about her physical appearance (I have no use for pageants at all). What is obscene is that she was paraded as “a fat pig” that had to improve herself for the male gaze (especially Trump’s) when there was nothing wrong with her weight in the first place.

People like Donald Trump are a huge part of why women end up with body image issues in the first place.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:16:47pm

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unproven innocence  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:17:14pm

re: #246 Belafon

I still don’t get if those machines are actually connected to the internet.

When a voting machine is connected to whatever via insecure WiFi, the issue of whether it has a connection to the internet diminishes in importance.

Virginia Finally Drops America’s ‘Worst Voting Machines’ Kim Zetter - Security Date of Publication: 08.17.15

Excerpt:

The Machines That Time Forgot

Although communication between the machines was encrypted, the wireless protocol they used was the notoriously insecure WEP. The FBI had demonstrated in 2005 that it could crack a 128-bit WEP key in about three minutes. But an attacker wouldn’t have needed even this much time to attack Virginia’s voting machines. By capturing and analyzing just two minutes of wireless traffic between two machines, investigators were able to crack the encryption key. The key turned out to be “abcde.”

What’s more, investigators found that even when they clicked a button to disable the wireless function in an attempt to close them off from remote attack, the device’s network card was still able to send and receive traffic. Once the encryption key was cracked, an attacker could have joined the wireless network to record voting data as it crossed the network, inject malicious data into the stream, or connect to voting machines to subvert them and an election. How so?

Investigators discovered that the machines were running on a 2002 version of Windows XP that had not been patched since 2005. A simple scan revealed that the machines were vulnerable to at least 18 known software vulnerabilities, any of which could have provided an opening for attackers to take over the machines. At least one vulnerability was a 10-year-old flaw that Microsoft had long ago fixed but had never been patched on the machines.

Time had marched on, but the technology in the WINVote machines had stayed put. “The WinVote machines were originally certified in 2003. Although this equipment has not changed, the myriad of technological advances in other areas after the original certification have resulted in machines which today, more than a decade later, are less secure than when the machines were originally certified,” investigators wrote in an early version of their report.

The machines also had an administrative account that was secured with the hardcoded password “admin”.

“Using this account and password, full administrative access to the WINVote operating system was available,” the investigators wrote in their report (.pdf).

The WinVote machines were decertified in April 2015 by Governor Terry McAuliffe, and taken out of service here and in some other states. Presumably, newer equipment is significantly more secure.

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majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:17:27pm

re: #284 Scottishdragon

I wasn’t considering the pageant rules in my comment but was speaking about all females in general.

292
Alephnaught  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:17:28pm
293
retired cynic  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:18:30pm

In the NSFW category of the morning after commentary:

rudepundit.blogspot.com

294
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:18:32pm
295
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:19:01pm

If you Google “Ivanka Trump Baby Weight Loss” you will find her starvation diet plan.

296
freetoken  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:19:03pm

Murdoch’s News Corp’s major Australian publication, The Australian, editor-at-large blames those nasty progressives for the vileness of Pauline Hanson:

Failing to manage Pauline Hanson has dire risks

The risk now is that the ideological conflict and partisan self-­interest that poisons our politics over the budget, welfare, indigenous constitutional recognition and same-sex marriage will spill into the situation of Muslims in Australia, with profound consequences.

[…]

The progressive elites are arrogant, inept and exploitative when it comes to Hanson’s return and her predictable call to end Muslim ­immigration. Every sign is their response — seen at the most superficial level with the Greens’ walkout on her maiden speech — will be self-interested and counter-productive. It is a mix of moral vanity fused with a determination to promote themselves by publicising Hanson’s prejudice, the worst possible combination.

[…]

This is typical Murdochian spiel, an attempt to put responsibility on others for his/their own culpability.

But the editor even does this:

Don’t think polarisation ­between both sides in this rigid ideological divide won’t deepen very quickly. The truth is we need to manage this. Hanson isn’t going anywhere. She will be in parliament for years. Muslim immigration to this country will continue. And the global struggle against Islamist terrorism will proceed unabated.

Note how the editor immediate super-imposes Muslim immigration with continued threat of terrorism. Then he goes on in the editorial at length about the dangers of Muslim terrorism.

To this stage both are flawed projects. The public is not so dumb it doesn’t see this. In most Western nations where Muslims congregate, an epic battle of ideas is taking place, the manifestations of which are seen daily. The test is how Western and Muslim heri­tages find an accommodation.

The core problem is the rise of a global extremist Islamist ideology seen in different degrees across different nations. […]

It’s pretty clear that Murdoch knows how to make money, because people around the world are the same, and manipulating people is not so hard to do, but it does take a bit of cleverness and the luck to be born in the right place at the right time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:20:09pm
298
Teukka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:20:41pm

Dunno if this got posted yet, but…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:20:49pm
300
Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:20:58pm

re: #298 Teukka

Twice…

;)

301
Lidane  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:21:09pm

Heh.

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majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:21:23pm

re: #285 Sir John Barron

“Probably not the best thing for Dean to have said, but then again, hey, as Trump has taught us, words don’t mean anything, nothing matters anyway.”

I think it has been well past the time, for decades now, that Democrats stop apologizing for the things they say when GOPers rarely do. When they do apologize, it’s always a non-apology apology. They don’t concern themselves with how their words negatively impact others. Gov. Dean’s comment specifically targeted Trump and no one else, unlike a lot of the things Trump has said about Democrats, Latinos/Hispanics, women, and others.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:21:42pm

re: #294 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

ONLINE POLLS I WIN!

WASHINGTON TIMES, FAMOUS NEWSPAPER, BROKE WATERGATE!!!!1

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:22:05pm

re: #285 Sir John Barron

Probably not the best thing for Dean to have said, but then again, hey, as Trump has taught us, words don’t mean anything, nothing matters anyway.

Maybe Howard is just paying back some conservatives for the Hillary health thing as a little jab from “the screamer.”

305
Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:22:50pm

re: #301 Lidane

Heh.

[Embedded content]

Then people should stop with the TrumpCoke jokes. And stop with all the Trump Has Small Hands jokes. And the Trump Has A Fat Fred Flintstone Gut.

/

306
wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:22:51pm

re: #300 Nyet

Twice…

;)

It’s always good to follow in the footsteps of SpaceJesus.

307
Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:24:47pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

It’s always good to follow in the footsteps of SpaceJesus.

Third time’s a charm.

Or, as Russians say, “God loves Trinity”.

308
nines09  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:25:30pm

Brain Bleach

Summer holding on….

309
Jenner7  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:26:00pm

re: #262 gocart mozart

Is he an official surrogate for Hillary? I sure hope not.

310
Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:26:53pm

Dilbert creator: Clinton ‘engineered’ 90 minutes of alertness

“Clinton looked, to my eyes, as if she was drugged, tired, sick, or generally unhealthy, even though she was mentally alert and spoke well,” Adams wrote. “But her eyes were telling a different story. She had the look of someone whose doctors had engineered 90 minutes of alertness for her just for the event.

He should stick to composing shitty cartoons.

311
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:27:37pm
312
ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:27:55pm

re: #294 The Vicious Babushka

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
‘CNBC, Time magazine online polls say Donald Trump won the first presidential debate’ via @WashTimes. #MAGAhttp://m.washingtontimes.com
4:06 PM - 27 Sep 2016

No Donny, Larry Kudlow staying up all night pushing the “Trump Won” button a million times at CNBC doesn’t count.

Hmmm. I wonder if Larry had the sniffles last night too?

313
Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:28:09pm

re: #310 Dr. Matt

even though she was mentally alert and spoke well,”

So, obviously something must be wrong with Hillary. Meanwhile, Trump was great. So great. Gave all the best answers.
/

314
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:29:18pm

McConnell also refused to include funding for flood relief.

315
Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:29:50pm

re: #310 Dr. Matt

Dilbert creator: Clinton ‘engineered’ 90 minutes of alertness

He should stick to composing shitty cartoons.

Back when Dilbert was popular enough that almost everyone was reading them, I had a friend who would only read the first two panels. She said the joke was in the first two, and the third one always ruined it.

316
Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:31:09pm

re: #315 Belafon

TBH I sort of liked the cartoons, but I find his writing style (on the blog) somehow creepy.

317
Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:31:46pm
318
Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:32:06pm

re: #310 Dr. Matt

Dilbert creator: Clinton ‘engineered’ 90 minutes of alertness

He should stick to composing shitty cartoons.

I wonder if Dilbert guy was asked to diagnose Terri Schiavo.

319
Scottishdragon  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:32:07pm

re: #310 Dr. Matt

Dilbert creator: Clinton ‘engineered’ 90 minutes of alertness

He should stick to composing shitty cartoons.

He can go weep on 4chan with his alt right allies.

320
majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:33:36pm

re: #310 Dr. Matt

“He should stick to composing shitty cartoons.”

I’ve seen more armchair MDs come out of the woodwork this year than I’ve ever seen before. These are the same persons who are also armchair educators, climate scientists, foreign policy experts, economists, physicists, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. who think they know more than those who have degrees in these fields of study. They seem to think they know more about these professions but have no training or experience in them.

321
mr.fusion  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:34:55pm
322
Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:34:57pm

My aunt just posted this on Facebook:

I am trying to make friends outside of Facebook while applying the same principles. Therefore, every day I walk down the street and tell passersby what I have eaten, how I feel at the moment, what I have done the night before, what I will do later, and with whom. I give them selfies and pictures of my family, my dog, and of me gardening, taking things apart in the garage, watering the lawn, standing in front of landmarks, driving around town, having lunch, and doing what anybody and everybody does every day. I also listen to their conversations, give them the “thumbs up” and tell them I like them. And it works just like Facebook. I already have four people following me: two police officers, a private investigator, and a Psychiatrist.

323
ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:35:28pm

re: #320 majii

“He should stick to composing shitty cartoons.”

I’ve seen more armchair MDs come out of the woodwork this year than I’ve ever seen before. These are the same persons who are also armchair educators, climate scientists, foreign policy experts, economists, physicists, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. who think they know more than those who have degrees in these fields of study. They seem to think they know more about these professions but have no training or experience in them.

Amazing what you can achieve with an honorary degree from Trump University.

324
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:36:35pm
325
Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:37:14pm

re: #316 Nyet

TBH I sort of liked the cartoons, but I find his writing style (on the blog) somehow creepy.

I did, too, as some of them were quite relevant to what happens in an office, especially since I’m an engineer.

326
FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:38:11pm

Saw this last night, and honestly not sure if I shared it here. And, after inhaling a turkey sub for lunch, way to lazy to check…

327
majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:38:31pm

re: #323 ObserverArt

“Amazing what you can achieve with an honorary degree from Trump University.”

This reminds me, what happened to Glenn Beck U? Have any idea? At one time, it appeared to be all the rage.

328
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:39:24pm

re: #315 Belafon

Back when Dilbert was popular enough that almost everyone was reading them, I had a friend who would only read the first two panels. She said the joke was in the first two, and the third one always ruined it.

I thought the Elbonian Mud Farmers and their “Coffee Wench” was supposed to be a spoof on sexism in the workplace, now I realize the Elbonian Mud Farmers are his ideal.

329
Jenner7  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:40:43pm

I hope the Clinton camp is giving Howard Dean a call. He’s being an asshole and taking heat off of Trump.

330
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:41:28pm

What’s happening in the Salton Sea? Are #TrumpWon hashtags coming from there too or is a supervillain building a nuclear lair?

331
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:43:14pm
332
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:43:22pm

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>

333
Varek Raith  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:43:37pm

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

What’s happening in the Salton Sea? Are #TrumpWon hashtags coming from there too or is a supervillain building a nuclear lair?

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

I ain’t done shit.
YOU CAN’T PROVE IT!

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freetoken  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:43:54pm

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

It’s part of the San Andreas fault system.

Unlike Drumpfskind, that part of the world is supposed to be grumbling.

335
Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:45:34pm

Interesting factoid: In each of the past 10 presidential elections, the candidate who led in the polls after the first debate remained ahead on Election Day.

336
Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:46:05pm

re: #332 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

Odd how someone without a uterus thinks those are equivalent.

//

337
freetoken  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:46:12pm

re: #335 Dr. Matt

I guess we better hope that the polls don’t flip this week?

338
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:46:32pm

LOLWHUT

339
Varek Raith  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:46:43pm

Can I call ‘undecideds’ idiots now?
/

340
gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:46:45pm
341
Kilroy01  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:46:49pm

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

What’s happening in the Salton Sea? Are #TrumpWon hashtags coming from there too or is a supervillain building a nuclear lair?

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:49:00pm

STUPIDEST TRUMPSUCKING MEME OF THE DAY==>
(This Twitter profile triggers the Automatic Blocking Function)

343
philosophus invidius  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:50:02pm

It’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that Trump is using cocaine, actually.

344
philosophus invidius  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:51:11pm

I mean, I’m sure his personal physician would have been able to sniff that out.

345
Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:51:37pm

re: #343 philosophus invidius

It’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that Trump is using cocaine, actually.

It would definitely complicate his course of treatment for penile leprosy.

346
Varek Raith  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:52:03pm

re: #343 philosophus invidius

It’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that Trump is using cocaine, actually.

Especially since it’s probably ebolazikablackdeath.
/

347
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:52:09pm
348
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:52:29pm

re: #343 philosophus invidius

It’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that Trump is using cocaine, actually.

How about suggesting that he takes Tenuate Dospan?

349
Varek Raith  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:53:11pm

Are we sure Trump is even going to show up for the remaining debates?
I can see him trying to weasel out of it.

350
freetoken  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:53:11pm

The FBI appears to be supporting the Drumpfskind???:

FBI’s Comey: Officials Worry About ‘Terrorist Diaspora’ from Syria, Iraq

Intelligence and law enforcement agencies worry that a surge of violent extremists will eventually move from ISIS-controlled areas in Syria and Iraq into Western nations with the aim of committing terrorist attacks, FBI Director James Comey told Congress on Tuesday.

“The caliphate will be crushed,” but hundreds of people will remain and become part of a “terrorist diaspora” in the next two to five years. “When ISIS is reduced to an insurgency, those people will try to come to Western Europe and here,” Comey said in testimony before the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee.

[…]

“terrorist diaspora”
“the caliphate”
“insurgency… to Western Europe and here”

Has Drumpfskind won?

351
SpaceJesus  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:54:21pm

Who is this gluten free jesus and wherein doth his power lay?

352
majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:54:36pm

re: #349 Varek Raith

If he follows Rudy Giuliani’s advice, he’ll cancel the next two debates.

353
blueraven  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:55:12pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

It’s always good to follow in the footsteps of SpaceJesus.

Love it!
I’m so old I remember when SpaceJesus was persona non grata around here. Always in the karma ratings black hole.

354
Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:55:51pm

re: #352 majii

If he follows Rudy Giuliani’s advice, he’ll cancel the next two debates.

If he follows my advice, he’ll end his days in prayer and penance atop a pillar in the desert.

355
wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2016 • 1:56:48pm

re: #353 blueraven

Love it!
I’m so old I remember when SpaceJesus was persona non grata around here. Always in the karma ratings black hole.

Looks like it’s time for a lizard Jesus challenge!

re: #351 SpaceJesus

Who is this gluten free jesus and wherein doth his power lay?

356
b.d.  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:00:06pm

re: #343 philosophus invidius

It’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that Trump is using cocaine, actually.

It’s not cocaine, it’s Angel Dust

//

357
Belafon  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:00:06pm

re: #349 Varek Raith

Are we sure Trump is even going to show up for the remaining debates?
I can see him trying to weasel out of it.

I think he’ll show up for the next one, thinking he can win by being a bigger bully. The third one is more in doubt, thought.

358
Dr. Matt  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:00:40pm

re: #343 philosophus invidius

It’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that Trump is using cocaine, actually.

Common side effects of cocaine abuse include:

* Irritation
* Anxiety
* Extremely talkative
* Psychosis
* Legal problems
* Erratic, bizarre behaviors
* Chronically runny nose
* Break from reality
* Unable to exert good judgment

359
ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:00:42pm

re: #329 Jenner7

I hope the Clinton camp is giving Howard Dean a call. He’s being an asshole and taking heat off of Trump.

He is not the only one that thought that cocaine may be the case. I don’t know if you’ve ever been around the drug, but it does have that effect on many people. That is why so many mentioned it. There were many comments here last night just the same. If you were around the party crowd in the early to mid 80s that was a common trait in users, even casual use could lead to it. And it could happen for days…not just with current use.

Maybe this will help…a Google search on “donald trump cocaine sniffles.”

Google Search

Lots of people talking about it.

And Dean is a doctor, he probably knows the traits.

360
Nyet  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:03:11pm

re: #355 wrenchwench

Deathmatch!

361
majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:04:08pm

re: #359 ObserverArt

“Lots of people talking about it.”

But, not Trump. He’s blaming the sniffling we heard on a “defective mic.”

362
philosophus invidius  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:04:37pm

re: #358 Dr. Matt

Is there any way to tell if Harold Borstein has a questionable prescription record?

363
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:07:42pm

re: #362 philosophus invidius

Is there any way to tell if Harold Borstein has a questionable prescription record?

FWIW Trump got his Tenuate Dospan from a different drug pusher.

364
makeitstop  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:07:50pm

re: #305 Sir John Barron

Then people should stop with the TrumpCoke jokes. And stop with all the Trump Has Small Hands jokes. And the Trump Has A Fat Fred Flintstone Gut.

/

Also, grandmotherly arms.

365
wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:08:13pm

re: #360 Nyet

Deathmatch!

To be followed by an Ascensionmatch?

366
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:13:51pm

re: #310 Dr. Matt

She had the look of someone whose doctors had engineered 90 minutes of alertness for her just for the event.

And then another hour or so immediately afterwards at a post-debate rally. And then another one this morning for the rally in NC.

Trump, meanwhile - Mr. Stamina - lost the ability to speak coherently after 30 minutes, then cancelled his post-debate rally appearance to go home and rest.

367
philosophus invidius  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:16:29pm

re: #366 Blind Frog Belly White

To be fair, it’s pretty exhausting to be humiliated for 90 minutes.

368
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:25:07pm

re: #320 majii

“He should stick to composing shitty cartoons.”

I’ve seen more armchair MDs come out of the woodwork this year than I’ve ever seen before. These are the same persons who are also armchair educators, climate scientists, foreign policy experts, economists, physicists, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. who think they know more than those who have degrees in these fields of study. They seem to think they know more about these professions but have no training or experience in them.

Well, you know, they always bring the common sense that those pointy-headed academics lack!
////

My favorite episode of this was back in 2010 when Climate Denier Anthony Watts had compiled his ‘audit’ of all the climate stations, and was going to PROVE once and for all that the whole rise in Surface Temp was because of bad station siting. So they divided them up into ‘Good’ and ‘Bad’ station sites. It turned out the Good sites had an EVEN MORE PRONOUNCED rising trend, that the ‘Bad’ stations had been slightly masking, because they had a slower rate of rise.

I think Watts said, “It doesn’t mean what you think it means”, then dropped the whole thing for the NEXT “This time for sure!” moment, when Physicist Richard Muller declared he was going to do HIS OWN analysis of the climate data, since he thought those Climate Scientists didn’t know how to analyse data. Watts declared that he’d go along with whatever Muller found.

Muller found that the Climate Scientists actually knew their shit. And Watts? He declared that Muller had been ‘gotten to’.

369
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:30:12pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

Newt(!) Gingrich tells @jamiegangel that Trump needs to go to next debate w/ “a few more facts, but not too many.”

Maybe even some that are, you know, FACTS.

370
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:31:22pm

Goddammit! You all left me here talking to myself!
//

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majii  Sep 27, 2016 • 2:40:32pm

re: #368 Blind Frog Belly White

“Muller found that the Climate Scientists actually knew their shit. And Watts? He declared that Muller had been ‘gotten to’.”

This reminds me of the way Ken Cuccinelli went after Michael Mann in 2011 when he was VA’s Atty General. The entire point of Cuccinelli’s investigation was to prove that Mann had used state tax money to produce flawed climate change studies when Mann was employed at the Univ.of VA. Cuccinelli ended up looking like the climate denialist he is because he couldn’t prove what he thought he could prove. His scheme was meant to discredit Dr. Mann. I think his little game-playing at taxpayers’ expense is partly what caused him to lose his re-election bid. I’ve never been as happy as I was when I learned he’d lost his bid for re-election and would no longer be able to use his position in government in VA to push his personal beliefs.


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