Watch Live: Trump Rants in Manheim, Pennsylvania

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(As I write this, Trump is more than 90 minutes late for his appearance in Manheim, Pennsylvania.)

A tweet I posted today went viral, and was even retweeted by the Clinton campaign’s @TheBriefing2016 account. Read this transcript of what Hillary said in the leaked audio last February; this is what the media want you to freak out about, and you can expect Trump to go into an extended rant about it in this Pennsylvania speech. This is a phony issue, caused by a deliberate mischaracterization of what Clinton said.

CLINTON: Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement. They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future. I met with a group of young black millennials today and you know one of the young women said, “You know, none of us feel that we have the job that we should have gotten out of college. And we don’t believe the job market is going to give us much of a chance.” So that is a mindset that is really affecting their politics.

And so if you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing. So I think we should all be really understanding of that and should try to do the best we can not to be, you know, a wet blanket on idealism. We want people to be idealistic. We want them to set big goals. But to take what we can achieve now and try to present them as bigger goals.

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1
Birth Control Works  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:48:11pm

Whiner!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:48:36pm

I misread the video descriptor as LIVE Scream.

I guess that’s how my Trump filter works.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:49:55pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:50:12pm

Trump must have gotten directions from Jill Stein.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:50:21pm
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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:50:36pm

There is someone on stage that looks and sounds like Trump, it might be one of his doubles though.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:51:08pm

Apparently all drugs in Trump’s America fantasy come from outside the country.

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Skip Intro  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:51:52pm

re: #7 jaunte

Apparently all drugs in Trump’s America fantasy come from outside the country.

Speaking from personal experience, probably.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:51:56pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:53:02pm

Trump’s speeches are like a broken record.

Giphy

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Targetpractice  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:53:24pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Trump made his latest “reach out” to Bernie supporters at the same time that the paper his son-in-law owns happens to get its hand on a recording that its spinning as “trashing” Bernie.

I suppose they consider this their “October Surprise” since Assange totally whiffed on that.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:53:35pm
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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:54:17pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Oh, Assange. His time is coming ;)

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:54:26pm

“Pundints.”

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:55:24pm

“Some call it the greatest phenomenon they’ve seen politically in their lives.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:56:31pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Can you imagine if he was 90 minutes late for an address to the Nation or a meeting with a foreign leader?

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Targetpractice  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:56:43pm

re: #15 jaunte

“Some call it the greatest phenomenon they’ve seen politically in their lives.”

I think we have differing opinions on the definition of “greatest.”

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:58:10pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

I think we have differing opinions on the definition of “greatest.”

It’s the greatest all right; the greatest Dumpster fire… .

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:58:11pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

Putin: “I meant flamboyant, not smart-brilliant.”

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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:58:24pm

Wait no prompter?

wheee mosquito time!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:58:41pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:58:48pm

Trump dissing the Constitution now.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:59:27pm

Night Lizards. See you in the A.M.

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 5:59:28pm

re: #22 jaunte

Trump dissing the Constitution now.

I’m not streaming. What did he say?

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:00:12pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Trump is a yuge waste of quarks.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:00:23pm

re: #24 Anymouse

He’s scoffing about laws that prevent voter intimidation.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:00:46pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Trump is making a mint off of this run thanks to his rube donors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:00:49pm

re: #22 jaunte

Trump dissing the Constitution now.

And no flag pin….TREASON!

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:01:15pm

“They gave me a bum mic! How many people think that was done on purpose?”

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:01:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:02:20pm
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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:02:27pm

Three Florida students suspended for wearing Ku Klux Klan outfits to school. For homecoming week, students were to wear costumes in the category of “characters.”

tampabay.com

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:02:27pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clutching pearls and looking in vain for a failing couch. ///…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:02:48pm
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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:03:23pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

And no flag pin….TREASON!

He couldn’t figure out which one to put on.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:03:46pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Feel sorry for me because I am losing in those slanted polls.// OMG

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:04:17pm

Here’s the “LOCK HER UP” chants. Gross.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:04:21pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

He’s now telling people to “watch the polling booths.” Um that’s illegal. lgf.bz

If he gets a bunch of his nitwits arrested, that will be a civics teaching moment.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:04:32pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:04:43pm

Candy cane tie

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:05:30pm

The Prison Planet Candidate.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:05:36pm

WOW. Unhinged.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:06:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:06:09pm

Has he done any sniffling yet?

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:06:26pm

“She could actually be crazy.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:07:03pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:07:11pm

The big unions are NOT with you liar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:07:34pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:08:02pm

“She wouldn’t know where to begin” rebuilding infrastructure.
Sounds like a wonk challenge Trump is guaranteed to fail.

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:08:52pm

re: #49 jaunte

“She wouldn’t know where to begin” rebuilding infrastructure.
Sounds like a wonk challenge Trump is guaranteed to fail.

By asking experts.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:09:01pm

“We need precious bodily fluids!”

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:09:07pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

First of all we need brains. Something he lacks.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:09:58pm

“She should be in prison.”

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CuriousLurker  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:09:59pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Charles, I hadn’t seen your tweet when I RT the one below, I just wanted to point out that I included the SoundCloud audio file as proof of what she said, in case you want to add it to your post. That’s all—I’m outta here till tomorrow.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:10:18pm

Unleashed Trump

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:10:21pm

He finally made it? I bet he was lost back stage with Spinal Tap.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:10:33pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:10:50pm

Acid washed emails.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:10:54pm

He’s ranting like a fuckin’ loon.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:11:10pm

re: #58 jaunte

Acid washed emails.

Then he called it a tweet.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:11:11pm

“We are becoming a third world country.”

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:11:59pm

The nativism is bleeding through now.

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:12:17pm

Germany’s economy ministry believes a Donald Trump presidency would severely damage the U.S. economy, according to an internal memorandum reported by Der Spiegel magazine on Saturday.

The ministry expects “shrinking gross domestic product, fewer jobs and higher unemployment,” in the United States if the Republican candidate were to implement his campaign pledges, the magazine cited the memo as saying.

Trump, a billionaire businessman seeking his first public office, has proposed tax cuts worth $4.4 trillion and wants to curb government regulation and take a tougher stance on negotiating trade deals.

He says his economic plan would produce annual economic growth of 3.5 percent and create 25 million jobs over a decade. But some economists have questioned the assumptions underpinning the plan.

Trump’s pledges are “not feasible”, Spiegel cited the memorandum as saying. Moreover, the plans would violate international or U.S. law and could be “no basis for a realistic economic policy.”

A spokeswoman for the German Economy Ministry declined to comment on the Spiegel report.

Last month, economic research firm Oxford Economics projected the U.S. economy could be $1 trillion smaller than otherwise expected in 2021 if Trump becomes president.

Trump faces Democrat Hillary Clinton in the Nov. 8 election.

reuters.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:12:21pm
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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:12:27pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Someone should be in prison alright.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:12:49pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

So, it was bad coke?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:13:25pm

Fuck this fascist.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:13:27pm

“Follow the money.”

Yeah, sure, jackass. Where’s you’re goddamn tax returns you orange taint lick?

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:13:52pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

That would be the Libertarians, not the Democrats. He should be levelling that charge at Governor Johnson.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:14:32pm

re: #66 Nyet

That was too expensive. He is on airplane glue. ///…

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:15:27pm

Dramatic Squirrel

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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:15:34pm

“Blood Suckers”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:15:35pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

That was too expensive. He is on airplane glue. ///…

But the very best vintage airplane glue—before they took the toluene out.

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:16:16pm

How would the New York Times legally get Mr. Trump’s tax returns?

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:16:30pm

“I used to be an insider…”

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:17:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:17:14pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:18:51pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:19:59pm

Brave Trump ordered the helicopter to LAND!

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Targetpractice  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:20:36pm

Fuck me, I haven’t seen a public speaker this hammy since I rewatched Mad Max: Fury Road the other day. Scratch that, Immortan Joe at least had a point.

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Skip Intro  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:20:48pm

re: #79 jaunte

Brave Trump ordered the helicopter to LAND!

Isn’t that what they’re supposed to do?

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:21:24pm

I heard that Melania is the one who leaked those old tax forms.

//

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:21:38pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:22:04pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

Isn’t that what they’re supposed to do?

He was DEFYING the elements.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:23:01pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

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oh ffs, he SAID that?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:23:13pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:23:30pm

re: #75 jaunte

“I used to be an insider…”

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I’d say the wheels were coming off, but they started doing that months ago. This is just that moment when the press suddenly starts paying attention to the trainwreck they’ve been supporting.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:23:37pm

re: #78 jaunte

OK, not the best analogy. On a plane which serves feces with glass shards I wouldn’t eat anything.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:24:13pm

re: #88 Nyet

Very popular dish on reality TV.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:24:14pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

With Huma, obviously.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:26:18pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:27:37pm
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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:28:33pm

Donald! Who is Hillary having an affair with:

1.) Soros?
2.) The former Ms. Universe?
3.) Lester Holt?
4.) Every Illegal Alien?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:29:26pm

re: #93 b.d.

He is bluffing. He has absolutely no clue.

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Tigger2  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:31:08pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:31:13pm

Loser!

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:32:24pm
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BigPapa  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:32:26pm

re: #90 Nyet

With Huma, obviously.

First thing I thought too. This rabbit hole continues to keep going deeper.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:34:52pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:35:15pm

ROFL:

“Mr. Trump is a highly-skilled businessman who has a fiduciary responsibility to his business, his family and his employees to pay no more tax than legally required,” the statement said. “That being said, Mr. Trump has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in property taxes, sales and excise taxes, real estate taxes, city taxes, state taxes, employee taxes and federal taxes.”

The statement continued: “Mr. Trump knows the tax code far better than anyone who has ever run for President and he is the only one that knows how to fix it.”

Yeah-just the kind of guy we need tweaking the IRS code-NOT!

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:36:02pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Coal: Energy you can clutch.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:36:47pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

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Don’t dare call Trump supporters deplorable

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:36:53pm

re: #100 Eric The Fruit Bat

“Mr. Trump is a highly-skilled businessman”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:37:29pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

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What a piece of shit. Dude needs to be shot into the sun.

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:38:31pm

Atlanta lawyer’s gun fires inside his car and strikes his wife. She died several hours later; he blamed the Black Lives Matter movement, claiming they were about to be carjacked.

addictinginfo.org

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:39:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:40:04pm

re: #103 jaunte

“Mr. Trump is a highly-skilled businessman”

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Bullshit his & hers wages were 6k

OPM to live their glam life.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:40:42pm

Not that it encapsulates all the fucked-up-ness in this speech, but I say this in summary:

This is the “base” completely unvarnished. Seeking any ugly thing to throw. There’s no policy, just hate of everybody not like them. There’s no truth, no facts—everything bends.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:43:24pm

Trump mocks Clinton for collapsing into her car at 9/11 Memorial (while she had pneumonia). He screams GIVE ME A BREAK! GIVE ME A BREAK!

For someone with “no stamina” she had no problem kicking his ass for 90 minutes last Monday night.

Donald Trump Mocks Hillary Clinton; She Can’t Even Make it 15 Ft. to Her Car!

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:43:28pm

3:00 am is going to be crazy.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:43:48pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

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I’m rather skeptical of these documents because there are so few, and the unknowns surrounding their source. What’s funny is that no one thinks they’re fake because he lost $915,729,293.

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William Lewis  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:45:06pm

re: #105 Anymouse

Atlanta lawyer’s gun fires inside his car and strikes his wife. She died several hours later; he blamed the Black Lives Matter movement, claiming they were about to be carjacked.

addictinginfo.org

I thought he was claiming the gun “just went off” while sitting on his lap?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:45:59pm

Questions?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:46:25pm

Time for another Trump campaign leadership shake-up.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:47:33pm

BRACKENRIDGE, Pa. — For two years, Chris Cummings, a maintenance mechanic, worked 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. six days a week to help prepare for the opening of a gigantic $1.2 billion steel rolling mill that was supposed to bring hundreds of secure, well-paying jobs to the Allegheny River Valley.

But then Mr. Cummings’s employer, Allegheny Technologies, locked him and his co-workers out after their union, the United Steelworkers, balked at accepting the far-reaching concessions that the company said were essential to help compete against domestic rivals and Chinese imports.
nytimes.com

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:47:58pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:48:02pm

Trump campaign responds to the NY Times, with a bunch of bullshit & DARVO

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:48:03pm

m.indyweek.com

*more at the link

Wake County, NC sheriff compares trans kids to head lice, threatens to pull school resource officers out of schools.

In his response, Harrison said the same thing he told us Monday, that his decision has “nothing to do with HB 2 or any other bill.” But he later goes on to imply that the policy regarding infectious diseases, such as head lice, should be used with regards to transgender students.

“The concern I have is the parents of ‘ALL’ the students and SRO’s should know the policies of the school and school board,” Harrison writes. “Then the parent has a say whether they want their child in the dress out room or not with a transgender student. … The school sends out messages if a child has head lice so parents can make their own decisions as to what to do with the child, so why not allow them to make the decision on whether their child should be in the dress out room or [sic] as well.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:48:45pm

The 3:00AM Tweetstorm will be all about the “failing” NY Times that “nobody reads anymore”

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:49:18pm

re: #112 William Lewis

I thought he was claiming the gun “just went off” while sitting on his lap?

This is what the article says:

McIver says he and his wife were being driven home by Diane’s best friend when their Ford Explorer was approached by several individuals during a week in which there were many Black Lives Matter protests in the area, according to Bill Crane, a McIver family friend, who spoke to the The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Friday.

Fearing they were about to be carjacked, McIver pulled out his gun from the center console as a precaution. McIver was falling asleep with the gun in his lap and has no recollection of pulling the trigger, Crane told the newspaper.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:50:54pm

Some of the commentariat over at Ballon Juice call bullshit on the NYT piece. Any resident CPA/Tax lizards care to chime in?

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:51:22pm
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Kragar  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:51:37pm
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William Lewis  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:51:44pm

re: #120 Anymouse

He fell asleep while being so scared of an impending carjacking that he pulled his gun out? Yeah right. Give him a nice solitary accommodation for the rest of his life.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:53:25pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:53:43pm
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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:54:07pm

If you were going to steal tax returns you wouldn’t steal just one year of them.

Drip……drip…….drip.

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Jenner7  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:54:17pm

I think Melania sent those. She’s had enough of this. lol

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:54:20pm

re: #122 Nyet

They’re already warming up the gas chamber.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:54:23pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Feh…Trump is just a middling branding operation only. He’s blown up at least six business he’s tried to run himself. A successful businessman? GMAFB.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:55:01pm

re: #104 Pawn of the Oppressor

Get Elon Musk on it.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:55:16pm
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KingKenrod  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:56:09pm

re: #121 Eric The Fruit Bat

Some of the commentariat over at Ballon Juice call bullshit on the NYT piece. Any resident CPA/Tax lizards care to cime in?

Not a pro, but any loss like that would have been with borrowed money, and any debt later dismissed in bankruptcy court would decrease Trump’s carryover losses. It’s unlikely he dodged a staggering amount of taxes because he never loses his own money.

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Jenner7  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:56:25pm

Sooo, in one night Trump implies Hillary is unfaithful to Bill, makes fun of her health, says she’s crazy.

KellyAnne, you better keep his phone.

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:56:58pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:57:27pm

re: #115 jaunte

Company executives say that they need lower labor costs and that no one will gain if the new plant can’t thrive in the global economy.

But many steelworkers say Allegheny is seeking to enhance its own prosperity at their expense. They contend the company is undermining the middle class in the nation’s industrial heartland by demanding a two-tier contract with lesser benefits for future hires, insisting upon a four-year wage freeze and requiring many employees to pay at least $2,000 more a year for health coverage.
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A four year pay freeze. Oh yeah that’s totally fair to employees.

*spit*

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:57:40pm

re: #129 Nyet

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:59:14pm
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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 6:59:57pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:00:34pm

re: #127 b.d.

If you were going to steal tax returns you wouldn’t steal just one year of them.

Drip……drip…….drip.

Maybe it was Barron the “hacker genius”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:00:38pm

There have to be some Hillary supporters at Trump tower right? :p

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:00:57pm

re: #137 Nyet

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:01:29pm

re: #140 The Vicious Babushka

Maybe it was Barron the “hacker genius”

LOL, that kid!

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:01:46pm

re: #110 jaunte

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3:00 am is going to be crazy.

Wonder if he’ll watch SNL tonight—I hear it’s going to be YUUUGE.

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stpaulbear  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:01:47pm

Gun Group Raffles Off Assault Rifle With Photo Of Hillary Clinton For Target Practice

A North Carolina guns right group is raffling off an AR-15 rifle, 1,000 rounds of ammunition and a portrait of Democrat Hillary Clinton to raise money for its federal political action committee.

“Of course, we won’t tell you what to do with the photo, but when we ran a picture of Hillary on the front of our newsletter, we heard it was very popular at the range,” says the raffle announcement on Grass Roots North Carolina’s website.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:02:09pm
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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:02:20pm

re: #140 The Vicious Babushka

Maybe it was Barron the “hacker genius”

Maybe it was Russia. Perhaps they’ve decided to cut their losses.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:02:32pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

There have to be some Hillary supporters at Trump tower right? :p

I’d like to see Trump send out orders to clear the building.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:02:39pm

Has anyone scoured Trump Tower for a 400 lb man on a bed?

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:03:08pm

re: #149 b.d.

Maybe it was “Miss Housekeeping.”

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:03:26pm

re: #143 b.d.

LOL, that kid!

I hope that doesn’t become a ‘thing’. He should not be in the public eye, and he could be put in danger, if Trump actually believed something like that.

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William Lewis  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:03:34pm

re: #147 Anymouse

More likely USAF cyber warriors protecting the nation. It’s one thing the zoomies do right.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:04:05pm

I’m skeptical of these tax documents. Here’s why:

There’s no doubt Trump has been up to no good with his finances. He can’t keep it hidden forever. I think these were “leaked” in an effort to distract and discredit his real returns.

Just a hunch.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:04:31pm

re: #153 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m skeptical of these tax documents. Here’s why:

There’s no doubt Trump has been up to no good with his finances. He can’t keep it hidden forever. I think these were “leaked” in an effort to distract and discredit his real returns.

Just a hunch.

His tax guy confirmed the docs.

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:04:46pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Trump campaign responds to the NY Times, with a bunch of bullshit & DARVO

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How do they know the docs were illegally obtained? They must know who sent them…

Or, the first line is as much pure bullshit as the rest.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:06:34pm
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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:06:58pm

re: #153 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m skeptical of these tax documents. Here’s why:

There’s no doubt Trump has been up to no good with his finances. He can’t keep it hidden forever. I think these were “leaked” in an effort to distract and discredit his real returns.

Just a hunch.

His real ones are worse?

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:07:16pm

bbc.com

UK Prime Minister Theresa May says she will introduce a bill at the next Queen’s Speech, a “great repeal bill” to remove the United Kingdom from the European Union.

Mrs. May previously said she would not begin the process of removing the UK from the EU until next year.

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:07:48pm

re: #120 Anymouse

This is what the article says:

Wait—he was on such HIGH ALERT he pulled his gun out, but then he fell asleep? Uh—Okay…

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:09:23pm

I can’t be sure, but this leak of Trump’s taxes feels like it’s genuine.

One point in favor of it being real is that taking a 900M loss and applying that to taxes in later years would seem to guarantee a perpetual audit of all returns.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:09:35pm

The alt-right/white supremacist crowd is turning on Milo because:

1) He’s gay, and that makes them sick.

2) These are very paranoid people and they’re highly attuned to being infiltrated by fakers and undercover agents. They can tell that Milo is just trying to use them to advance his sick right wing career.

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Jenner7  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:09:59pm

This makes more sense.

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:10:02pm

re: #128 Jenner7

I think Melania sent those. She’s had enough of this. lol

Or maybe Marla did—she would have had access to them.

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ObserverArt  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:10:29pm

re: #114 Decatur Deb

Time for another Trump campaign leadership shake-up.

Are they all going to resign and leave him to his own craziness?

They should. They have nothing to gain from this loser. They probably won’t even get paid.

By the way…following along with Charles’ and others comments of his rambling tonight and it sounds like he is just losing it. I have a feeling he is breaking down. By the next debate he will be mumbling and in a straight jacket.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:10:33pm

Regarding Trump’s “trouble with his microphone”:

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:11:11pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

The alt-right/white supremacist crowd is turning on Milo because:

1) He’s gay, and that makes them sick.

2) These are very paranoid people and they’re highly attuned to being infiltrated by fakers and undercover agents. They can tell that Milo is just trying to use them to advance his sick right wing career.

Echoes of Julius Streicher’s career with the Nazis.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:11:25pm
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Belafon  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:11:33pm

re: #162 Jenner7

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This makes more sense.

re: #163 BeachDem

Or maybe Marla did—she would have had access to them.

Is Marla living in Trump tower?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:11:34pm
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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:11:37pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

The alt-right/white supremacist crowd is turning on Milo because:

1) He’s gay, and that makes them sick.

2) These are very paranoid people and they’re highly attuned to being infiltrated by fakers and undercover agents. They can tell that Milo is just trying to use them to advance his sick right wing career.

It’s even simpler: he’s of Jewish ancestry and they don’t like Jews.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:12:01pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:12:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:12:21pm

re: #168 Belafon

Is Marla living in Trump tower?

There is a post box in the public lobby of Trump Tower that can be used by anyone.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:13:04pm

I see a Lie Detector Monday for the folks at Trump Tower

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:13:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:13:35pm

re: #170 Nyet

It’s even simpler: he’s of Jewish ancestry and they don’t like Jews.

That too, probably most of all. But they do accept Jews into their midst sometimes if they’re debased enough.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:13:49pm

Trump actually is the Biggest Loser ever to run for president.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:14:38pm

re: #166 EPR-radar

Echoes of Julius Streicher’s career with the Nazis.

While the Nazis didn’t like Streicher for being too vulgar, his purge was quite soft, all things considered. Plus he wasn’t gay. Ernst Röhm would probably be a more fitting analogy.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:14:52pm

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

There is a post box in the public lobby of Trump Tower that can be used by anyone.

[trump] I WANT THOSE SECURITY CAMERA TAPES!! [/trump]

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Anymouse  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:15:34pm

Off to bed … night, y’all.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:15:49pm

re: #179 b.d.

[trump] I WANT THOSE SECURITY CAMERA TAPES!! [/trump]

“Alicia Machado released my tax document!”

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:16:01pm

….lost nearly one billion in casinos

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:16:15pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:16:40pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:16:54pm

re: #178 Nyet

While the Nazis didn’t like Streicher for being too vulgar, his purge was quite soft, all things considered. Plus he wasn’t gay. Ernst Röhm would probably be a more fitting analogy.

Right you are. I mistakenly thought Streicher was murdered in the night of the long knives, but that was Rohm and the SA.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:17:22pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

That too, probably most of all. But they do accept Jews into their midst sometimes if they’re debased enough.

Gays too, see Greg Johnson.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:17:30pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:17:36pm

re: #182 dangerman

….lost nearly one billion in casinos

Bad run of luck.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:18:02pm

Trump must have known this story was coming out and that was why he was late and he tried to bury the news by stating that Hillary was having an affair.

That’s what I’m going with for now.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:18:41pm
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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:18:43pm

re: #188 Decatur Deb

Bad run of luck.

I know you know but he was the effin house!

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:18:47pm

re: #168 Belafon

Is Marla living in Trump tower?

You can write anything as a return address. And even if she wasn’t in NY, she probably has some friends there who would mail it for her.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:19:32pm

Two labels that should stick to Trump:

1. Loser.
2. Appeaser.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:19:45pm

re: #191 dangerman

I know you know but he was the effin house!

Particularly bad run of luck.

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TedStriker  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:19:57pm

re: #32 Anymouse

Three Florida students suspended for wearing Ku Klux Klan outfits to school. For homecoming week, students were to wear costumes in the category of “characters.”

tampabay.com

Where’d they think they were at, Angel Beach?

/Porky’s 2: The Next Day

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ObserverArt  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:20:43pm

re: #193 Nyet

Two labels that should stick to Trump:

1. Loser.
2. Appeaser.

Three!

3. Gigantic Asshole. (Big League)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:21:00pm

re: #186 Nyet

Gays too, see Greg Johnson.

I think Milo’s obvious greed and narcissism is what prevents him from being fully accepted by the white supremacist cavemen. They can tell he isn’t really one of them, he’s just trying to use them.

Milo is a con man. Other con men can tell.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:21:01pm

Hmmmmmmmm:

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Tigger2  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:21:34pm

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes is trending

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:21:37pm

re: #192 BeachDem

You can write anything as a return address. And even if she wasn’t in NY, she probably has some friends there who would mail it for her.

I’m going with Mexican wastebasket emptier. ‘Cause that’s how it should be.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:21:54pm

re: #198 b.d.

Ivana and Marla probably should be somewhere else now.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:22:26pm

re: #196 ObserverArt

Three!

3. Gigantic Asshole. (Big League)

Not a prime-time word.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:23:55pm

re: #196 ObserverArt

Three!

3. Gigantic Asshole. (Big League)

Plus don’t forget that being an asshole is easily rationalized as “having guts”, “stamina”, etc. - the right *want* him to be an asshole.

“Loser” and “appeaser” though strike right at the core of the right-wing psyche.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:24:10pm
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philosophus invidius  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:24:13pm

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:24:30pm

re: #198 b.d.

Hmmmmmmmm:

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Also, imagine if said housewife noticed how easy it is to wind Trump up after Machado was brought up.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:25:14pm

re: #203 Nyet

Asshole dominates. Loser/appeaser is being dominated.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:26:45pm

re: #205 philosophus invidius

credit where credit is due:

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:27:45pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

I’m going with Mexican wastebasket emptier. ‘Cause that’s how it should be.

It just says it was postmarked NY with a Trump Tower return address, right? So it wasn’t necessarily mailed from Trump Tower.

Marla is the logical guess in my book:
1. He’s treated her daughter like an alien appendage
2. His obnoxious comments about her, wives whose husbands cheat, and women in general have been brought to the forefront, creating grief she probably didn’t really relish
3. She seems like a pretty kind and philanthropic person
4. I’d bet Donald makes her skin crawl these days

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:27:46pm

John Miller leaked the tax returns.

Find him.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:27:46pm

Waiting for Hair Furor to hit Twitter saying what a great rally he had in 5…4…3….

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:27:51pm

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BigPapa  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:29:23pm

re: #129 Nyet

Very sick people Milo has chosen to associate with.

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ObserverArt  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:29:53pm

re: #202 Nyet

Not a prime-time word.

Anus!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:30:07pm

re: #211 Eric The Fruit Bat

Waiting for Hair Furor to hit Twitter saying what a great rally he had in 5…4…3….

He’s going to go on Twitter saying what a “failure” the NY Times is, and how nobody reads them any more.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:31:03pm

re: #203 Nyet

“Loser” is good. Appeaser has too many syllables.

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:31:17pm

So, what’s the public policy justification of allowing losses to be carried forward to offset income in future years?

On its face, it just looks like a way for rich losers (e.g., Trump) to avoid paying their taxes.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:31:51pm

re: #209 BeachDem

It just says it was postmarked NY with a Trump Tower return address, right? So it wasn’t necessarily mailed from Trump Tower.

Marla is the logical guess in my book:
1. He’s treated her daughter like an alien appendage
2. His obnoxious comments about her, wives whose husbands cheat, and women in general have been brought to the forefront, creating grief she probably didn’t really relish
3. She seems like a pretty kind and philanthropic person
4. I’d bet Donald makes her skin crawl these days

Pissed-off ex-wives are pedestrian. I want the high-karma scenario.

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Nyet  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:33:08pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

Borat at the Gay Parade

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:33:27pm

re: #218 Decatur Deb

Pissed-off ex-wives are pedestrian. I want the high-karma scenario.

Maybe she could do a few numbers from Will Rogers Follies.

Oh, you said high KARMA, NOT high kicking.

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:34:05pm

re: #218 Decatur Deb

Pissed-off ex-wives are pedestrian. I want the high-karma scenario.

It would be natural for Marla to have copies of these documents. So it’s pedestrian but credible, like most of life.

I’m just happy that we’re getting Trump tax information.

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:35:05pm

re: #217 EPR-radar

So, what’s the public policy justification of allowing losses to be carried forward to offset income in future years?

On its face, it just looks like a way for rich losers (e.g., Trump) to avoid paying their taxes.

It’s to smooth aberrant years more or less

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:35:49pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:36:23pm

re: #221 EPR-radar

It would be natural for Marla to have copies of these documents. So it’s pedestrian but credible, like most of life.

I’m just happy that we’re getting Trump tax information.

Still need to see the intervening 20 years worth of returns.

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:37:54pm

re: #222 dangerman

It’s to smooth aberrant years more or less

But as I understand it, the little guys don’t get to do that anymore. E.g., there used to be an income averaging that could be used if one year was very high (e.g., a lottery payout, sale of a small business, lump sum retirement distribution), but I believe that was removed from the tax code a long time ago.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:38:02pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:38:05pm

re: #174 b.d.

I see a Lie Detector Monday for the folks at Trump Tower

The Simpsons Clip: Moe Taking Lie Detector Test

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:41:52pm

re: #224 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Still need to see the intervening 20 years worth of returns.

Of course, but what has been released so far is enough to keep the story in the news. Not even the mostly useless US media will be able to resist the temptation of filling in the blanks since 1995.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:41:53pm

re: #209 BeachDem

The Times didn’t say where it was postmarked-so who knows where it entered the postal system?

The real question becomes-what kind of jeopardy does the source face? If it actually turns out to be Marla, that would be one hell of a payback as I believe she has the right to release it, ¿no?

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:42:17pm
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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:43:08pm

Heh—Aaron Sorkin, Sports Night from 2000

(Dan is going to attend a restaurant opening in New Jersey—and they’re talking about who’ll be there)
CATHERINE: Jay McInerney, Ivana Drumpf. Interestingly, the other girl who used to be married to Donald Drumpf. Whose name I can’t—
DAN: Right.
CATHERINE: She, I grant you, is not A-list.
DAN: Drumpf’s ex-wife?
CATHERINE: The one after Ivana whose name I can’t remember.
DAN: I like her. I can’t remember her name either, although I can tell you she was very good in “Will Rogers Follies.”
CATHERINE: What did she do?
DAN: She sang, she danced, I think she twirled a rope. All I know is I was finally happy to see her realize her dream of the stage.
CATHERINE: All I’m saying is that the heat’s died down on her a little since she’s not with Drumpf anymore.
DAN: Yeah, and I think that’s come as a surprise to all of us.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:43:46pm

LOL

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ObserverArt  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:44:56pm

re: #229 Eric The Fruit Bat

The Times didn’t say where it was postmarked-so who knows where it entered the postal system?

The real question becomes-what kind of jeopardy does the source face? If it’s actually turns out to be Marla, that would be one hell of a payback as I believe she has the right to release it, ¿no?

Maybe the US Justice department can extend the Whistleblower Protection Act.

Hey, it could save the entire federal government…

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sagehen  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:45:10pm

re: #133 KingKenrod

Not a pro, but any loss like that would have been with borrowed money, and any debt later dismissed in bankruptcy court would decrease Trump’s carryover losses. It’s unlikely he dodged a staggering amount of taxes because he never loses his own money.

So you’re saying this is like the TANG documents?

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:45:37pm

re: #225 EPR-radar

But as I understand it, the little guys don’t get to do that anymore. E.g., there used to be an income averaging that could be used if one year was very high (e.g., a lottery payout, sale of a small business, lump sum retirement distribution), but I believe that was removed from the tax code a long time ago.

That was the flip side.. a much better than average year

I’m not advocating. In general tx code tweaking sux. But often the unintended consequences can really hurt so something’s gotta be done…and they do it and things get more complicated….

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:45:51pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:45:56pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Can you imagine if he was 90 minutes late for an address to the Nation or a meeting with a foreign leader?

Bill was with Monica when he was alleged to have kept a foreign dignitary waiting while he “conducted business with her”. I don’t remember who the dignitary was but I’m sure it’s in the right-wing Clinton annals.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:45:57pm
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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:47:24pm

It is called carry-over losses. Farmers are familiar with the concept.

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:47:31pm

re: #236 jaunte

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Again conflating taxes with individual income taxes

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:47:39pm

A while ago I was poking around Wikipedia about famous NYC hotels, and landed on the entry for the Plaza Hotel. Until then I didn’t know Trump had bought it in 1988, then lost it four years later. (I was not living in New York then, in my defense.) What struck me was a quote from Trump saying in essence he had bought the Plaza because it was something he had always dreamed of doing, even if he had paid too much money for it.

These are not the words of a gifted businessman. He violated the cardinal rule of investing — letting your emotions cloud your reasoning.

If you follow the trail of failed Trump ventures, you can find the same pattern: impulsive purchases/investments combined with a yuuuge ego, followed by yuuuge failures.

His followers say Trump is a business genius. He’s not. He’s just really good at playing shell games with other people’s money.

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KingKenrod  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:49:02pm

re: #234 sagehen

So you’re saying this is like the TANG documents?

No, the documents look real, but I don’t think Trump would be able to avoid taxes on $1 billion of future taxable income. Of course we would have to have all of his returns to know.

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:50:47pm

re: #229 Eric The Fruit Bat

The Times didn’t say where it was postmarked-so who knows where it entered the postal system?



with a postmark indicating they had been sent from New York City.
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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:51:01pm

Fall pron!

Instagram

Fall color in Colorado from soulful aspens. #Colorado #fallcolors #aspengrove #leafpeeping #fallfoliage

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:51:28pm

re: #242 KingKenrod

No, the documents look real, but I don’t think Trump would be able to avoid taxes on $1 billion of future taxable income. Of course we would have to have all of his returns to know.

I think it certain that Trump would try to use the 900M loss to offset future income, even if (or especially because) it was a loss of other people’s money.

Unraveling that mess would be a lifetime career for several IRS auditors.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:51:29pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:52:30pm

re: #244 BeachDem

Normally there would be a zipcode/station ID where it entered the system, IIRC.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:54:44pm

And the Trump trolls be trollin….

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:55:25pm

re: #249 Eric The Fruit Bat

4Chan, as usual, has no idea how the world works.

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:55:51pm

re: #249 Eric The Fruit Bat

And the Trump trolls be trollin….

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He lost opm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:56:22pm

re: #249 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump has made most of his money by slapping his name on buildings.

He certainly hasn’t had many successful ventures.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:56:35pm

re: #249 Eric The Fruit Bat

Maybe they’d like to invest in some Trump branded merchandise, and watch the brand value go up, up, up!

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allegro  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:57:17pm

re: #244 BeachDem

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with a postmark indicating they had been sent from New York City.

Marla’s daughter has been out and about there doing stuff with daddy and the half-siblings hasn’t she? Just askin.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:57:55pm

re: #249 Eric The Fruit Bat

And the Trump trolls be trollin….

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And missing a key fact: those hundreds of employees lost their jobs when Trump’s businesses went bankrupt.

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:58:01pm

I think this business of a $900M loss, by itself, is enough to explain why Trump has been adamant about not releasing his taxes.

It shows he’s a rotten businessman who most likely gets to use the results of his incompetence to avoid paying taxes for many years.

There’s just no way to spin that positively, even if you assume the audience consists of Trumphhroids with no remaining higher brain functions.

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:58:45pm

re: #256 EPR-radar

I think this business of a $900M loss, by itself, is enough to explain why Trump has been adamant about not releasing his taxes.

It shows he’s a rotten businessman who most likely gets to use the results of his incompetence to avoid paying taxes for many years.

There’s just no way to spin that positively, even if you assume the audience consists of Trumphhroids with no remaining higher brain functions.

Winner

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:58:55pm

re: #249 Eric The Fruit Bat

And there’s this:

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:59:03pm

re: #254 allegro

Marla’s daughter has been out and about there doing stuff with daddy and the half-siblings hasn’t she? Just askin.

I thought just the convention, but I could be wrong.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:59:30pm

And Trump was bitching about the US Govt. losing $500 million on Solyndrra?

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 7:59:54pm

re: #258 jaunte

And there’s this:

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Winner #2

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:00:04pm
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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:01:13pm

re: #260 b.d.

And Trump was bitching about the US Govt. losing $500 million on Solyndrra?

OK you in the Internet’s
Trump coulda bailed out Solyndrra but instead lost 2x in a casino

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:02:30pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:02:39pm

re: #254 allegro

Tiffany? No, she has not.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:03:10pm

re: #265 Ziggy_TARDIS

Tiffany? No, she has not.

She spoke at the convention and has been in a few commercials.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:04:15pm

Seems like our income tax system is designed to ease the burden of inheriting great wealth. Odd!

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:04:21pm

re: #263 dangerman

OK you in the Internet’s
Trump coulda bailed out Solyndrra but instead lost 2x in a casino

Trump’s taxes is the juiciest thing I’ve seen in a long time. I can’t wait to see what the real professionals (i.e., the Clinton campaign) do with this.

I think that if Clinton plays this hand well, she really could goad Trump into a spoiled toddler meltdown on live TV at the next debate.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:05:27pm
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Tigger2  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:05:36pm

re: #266 teleskiguy

She spoke at the convention and has been in a few commercials.

If she was smart she would stay away and she might come through this looking like the only Trump that’s not a complete unless asshole.

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majii  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:08:34pm

re: #111 Belafon

The NYT article mentions that its journalists contacted the guy who did Trump’s taxes in 1995, he now lives in FL, and he said they look like the ones he filed on Trump and Marla Maples’ behalf. The article also mentions that the return address on the envelope was Trump Tower.

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:08:49pm

re: #267 jaunte

Seems like our income tax system is designed to ease the burden of inheriting great wealth. Odd!

Of course. These tax code tweaks always start out as things that makes sense (e.g., carrying forward losses for a brief time for farming etc.) and then get exploited past all reason by rich SOBs.

I’m convinced that Romney’s 2 years of released returns were basically fakes showing that he paid something resembling a non-zero tax rate. IIRC, the returns he released were recent enough that amended returns could still be filed, so the released returns could hardly be taken at face value.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:09:40pm
274
Joe Bacon  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:10:14pm

Gosh I wonder what Chuck U Todd is going to say about this on Press the Meat tomorrow?

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freetoken  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:11:25pm

re: #273 jaunte

Clearly God is punishing Mexico for their anti-Drumpfskind sentiment.

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:11:42pm

re: #274 Joe Bacon

Gosh I wonder what Chuck U Todd is going to say about this on Press the Meat tomorrow?

[todd] The Trump tax return news is bad news for Hillary Clinton [/todd]

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:12:57pm

re: #275 freetoken

Mexico’s geology may be trying to drift southward to get away from Trump and his Deplorables.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:13:12pm

re: #274 Joe Bacon

“Was Donald Jr. right that this is just a confusing distraction?”

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Tigger2  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:15:41pm
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Joe Bacon  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:16:17pm

re: #278 philosophus invidius

“Was Donald Jr. right that this is just a confusing distraction?”

Gosh, if it is then Hillary’s Rapid Response Team is already on the case!

cnn.com

Another reason why I love Hillary! When Trump throws the kitchen sink at her, she catches it and beats him over the head with it!

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:17:21pm

re: #272 EPR-radar

Of course. These tax code tweaks always start out as things that makes sense (e.g., carrying forward losses for a brief time for farming etc.) and then get exploited past all reason by rich SOBs.

I’m convinced that Romney’s 2 years of released returns were basically fakes showing that he paid something resembling a non-zero tax rate. IIRC, the returns he released were recent enough that amended returns could still be filed, so the released returns could hardly be taken at face value.

Better than how I said it

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:17:24pm

re: #274 Joe Bacon

Gosh I wonder what Chuck U Todd is going to say about this on Press the Meat tomorrow?

Todd will take up half the show talking about the political skits on SNL.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:18:40pm

ZING!

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:18:47pm

re: #282 b.d.

Todd will take up half the show talking about the political skits on SNL.

Speaking of which…
(can’t wait for the debate skit)

285
EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:20:46pm

So Trump is a Billion Dollar Loser + Whiny Baby.

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:22:37pm

Burn!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:23:59pm

Pax and Rage Furby have some words:

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b.d.  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:24:20pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:25:32pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

ZING!

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I…uh…I kinda liked Waterworld. Wasn’t the worst film I’ve ever watched.

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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:25:36pm

re: #287 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Pax and Rage Furby have some words:

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He didn’t keep it
He lost it

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:26:49pm

re: #289 Targetpractice

I…uh…I kinda liked Waterworld. Wasn’t the worst film I’ve ever watched.

I liked it too! Visually stunning, weird humor about it, Dennis Hopper!

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:28:06pm

re: #290 dangerman

He didn’t keep it
He lost it

Duh Jr. was apparently talking about Rage Furby when he said people wouldn’t be able to understand the taxes.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:28:29pm

re: #290 dangerman

He didn’t keep it
He lost it

Batfart Pax and Robert the Boy Floor Pooper are too stupid to figure that out.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:28:38pm

From 2012:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:30:09pm

re: #290 dangerman

He didn’t keep it
He lost it

Also, Trump doesn’t really build “beautiful skyscrapers.” He doesn’t build much of anything.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:30:56pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:31:17pm

The Sunday Morning Talking Head shows should be rather, um, interesting…..

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:32:28pm

Alec Baldwin is a perfect Trump

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:33:30pm

re: #298 BeachDem

Alec Baldwin is a perfect Trump

One more hour and I can watch. We’re on west coast time here in the Rocky Mountains.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:34:03pm
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Jenner7  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:34:22pm

re: #299 teleskiguy

Me too. Can’t wait.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:34:57pm

There’s probably a shit ton of people right now with an open tab in their browser of The Donald’s™ Twitter feed. I know I got one open!

So far, nothing. They took his phone away.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:35:37pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:36:57pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

There’s probably a shit ton of people right now with an open tab in their browser of The Donald’s™ Twitter feed. I know I got one open!

So far, nothing. They took his phone away.

It’s not 3 am yet.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:37:07pm

re: #303 jaunte

That reminds me:

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Varek Raith  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:37:26pm

re: #303 jaunte

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The Golden Age of the Internet.
/

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:37:59pm

re: #306 Varek Raith

boinnn-g-g-g-g-

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Tigger2  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:38:14pm
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majii  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:40:43pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

“So far, nothing. They took his phone away.”

I believe they’re strategizing behind the scenes on how to spin this new info int the NYT article. I can well imagine things are quite tense at Trump Tower right about now. Expect new talking points to be distributed within the next few hours. Bannon, Giuliani, and Conway are working on it, and they have new help—-Nigel Farage.

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:40:50pm

re: #299 teleskiguy

One more hour and I can watch. We’re on west coast time here in the Rocky Mountains.

The cold opening of the debate is everything. I will say no more.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:41:23pm

I think Chuck has control of the WeSearchr account now.

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Varek Raith  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:42:43pm

re: #311 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think Chuck has control of the WeSearchr account now.

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What does that tweet even mean?

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:43:42pm

re: #309 majii

“So far, nothing. They took his phone away.”

I believe they’re strategizing behind the scenes on how to spin this new info int the NYT article. I can well imagine things are quite tense at Trump Tower right about now. Expect new talking points to be distributed within the next few hours. Bannon, Giuliani, and Conway are working on it, and they have new help—-Nigel Farage.

I couldn’t help but think of a classic Monty Python sketch when you listed The Donald’s™ advisors.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:43:42pm
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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:43:43pm

re: #312 Varek Raith

What does that tweet even mean?

Really—could someone please translate Furby to some semblance of English.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:43:58pm

re: #311 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They’re developing their own private language.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:44:01pm
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meteor  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:45:42pm

It would be so good if Trump goes to jail. Please let there be charges. Please.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:46:00pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:46:39pm

“Fewer people,” Donnie.

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:46:49pm

re: #317 goddamnedfrank

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And the reaction of the spawn:

We know nahthing

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:47:08pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:47:12pm

HAH!

Google Translate says “Putin Was Still In The KGB!”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:47:24pm

TPM: Livin Large:

In case you’ve missed the news, The New York Times was leaked a small shred of Donald Trump’s 1995 tax returns. But even with that small shred, they were able to determine that when Trump’s highly leveraged Atlantic City casino empire imploded in the early 90s he was able to generate almost $1 billion dollars in business losses which have likely enabled him to avoid paying income taxes for the intervening 20 years.

The Times is a bit more circumspect, saying Trump “could have” used these losses to avoid paying federal taxes for “nearly two decades.” In his campaign’s response though, in addition to threatening legal action, Trump essentially conceded that he’s paid little or no income tax, listing all the other forms of state, city, excise, property taxes and more that he has paid. In other words, everything but income taxes.

Needless to say, this alone would likely explain Trump’s inflexible resistance to releasing his tax returns. It might well also explain and perhaps add credibility to Trump’s claim that he’s been permanently under audit for years. At least in theory there’s nothing illegal or improper about what Trump appears to have done. The Times doesn’t suggest Trump broke any laws. But the IRS would probably look very closely at a scale of declared losses which would allow a super rich person like Trump to avoid having any taxable income for decades.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:48:18pm
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dangerman  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:48:33pm

In a statement, the Trump campaign said the real estate magnate has a “fiduciary responsibility” to his business, family and employees “to pay no more tax than legally required.

Which is utter bullshit.

Individual income taxes…after business family and employees

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prairiefire  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:49:23pm

re: #325 jaunte

Hoping BBW and all are well!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:52:06pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:52:47pm

And herein lies the problem with our Tax Code-wealthy individuals get oodles of special perks that rank-and-file working-class folk can’t get. And they grow exponentially with the size of one’s wealth. That’s one of the reasons I hate that Social Security caps out the way it does-you fix that and a lot of the so-called issues with Social Security go away.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:52:56pm

re: #315 BeachDem

Really—could someone please translate Furby to some semblance of English.

I need to drink more Scotch first.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:53:32pm

re: #308 Tigger2

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes Dems were doing this, as they likely are again tonight. Man, how I love an October surprise.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:54:09pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:54:32pm

re: #331 philosophus invidius

Some things should remain the past.

That’s one of them.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:55:44pm

re: #317 goddamnedfrank

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philosophus invidius  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:56:20pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 8:57:28pm

re: #335 philosophus invidius

I like this one.

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freetoken  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:02:17pm

Local newspaper SDUT endorses Clinton:

sandiegouniontribune.com

… in its own backhanded way:

This paper has not endorsed a Democrat for president in its 148-year history. But we endorse Clinton. She’s the safe choice for the U.S. and for the world, for Democrats and Republicans alike.

SDUT is not what is used to be, way back when it was run by old-fashioned Republicans. It was bought by a wingnut real estate flipper a few years back. Yet even that is not enough to bring about a Drumpfskind endorsement.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:04:08pm

And like clockwork, WaPo piles on:

What we know about Donald Trump’s income tax history, by year

1995: No taxes paid. This is the year that Times story begins, detailing a $915 million loss. That net operating loss could potentially last for the next 15 years, with any income in each of those years being subtracted from the carried-over loss.

1996: Possibly no taxes paid. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

1997: Possibly no taxes paid. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

1998: Possibly no taxes paid. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

1999: Possibly no taxes paid. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2000: Possibly no taxes paid. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2001: Possibly no taxes paid. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2002: Possibly no taxes paid, not under audit. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year. This is the year that Trump’s current accountants began representing him, according to a letter they released in March. That letter was meant to demonstrate that a number of recent filings from Trump were still under audit by the IRS — the rationale that Trump has used to explain why he refuses to release them. Even if you accept that he can’t release returns that are under audit, these returns don’t qualify. (For what it’s worth, Richard Nixon released returns that were under audit during his presidency.)

2003: Possibly no taxes paid, not under audit. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2004: Possibly no taxes paid, not under audit. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2005: Possibly no taxes paid, not under audit. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2006: Possibly no taxes paid, not under audit. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2007: Possibly no taxes paid, not under audit. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2008: Possibly no taxes paid, not under audit. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2009: Possibly no taxes paid, under audit as of March. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year. The March letter from Trump’s accountants explained that returns prior to 2009 were no longer under audit. In the intervening seven months since that letter was released, the Trump campaign has neither released proof from the IRS that the audits are underway nor updated the status of any returns from the years 2009 to 2015. As far as we know, they are all still under audit.

2010: Possibly no taxes paid, under audit as of March. If the net operating loss from 1995 is still larger than income gained through this year.

2011: Under audit as of March.

2012: Under audit as of March.

2013: Under audit as of March.

2014: Under audit as of March.

2015: Under audit as of March. This is the most recent year for which Trump has filed taxes. They remain unseen, in a break with 40 years of tradition from presidential candidates.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:06:04pm

Is there the slightest possibility that the following accurate?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:06:04pm
341
sagehen  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:10:16pm

re: #284 BeachDem

Speaking of which…
(can’t wait for the debate skit)

It’s pretty good, but…

the Family Feud sketch is truly awesome.

342
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:10:18pm

Dan Riehl is going full bore on Twitter trying to discredit Alec Baldwin.

343
goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:11:36pm
344
freetoken  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:13:06pm

re: #339 Ziggy_TARDIS

Unlikely.

345
Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:14:41pm

re: #339 Ziggy_TARDIS

Kleinfelter’s Syndrome usually results in infertility.

346
Snarknado!  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:16:14pm

re: #345 Eric The Fruit Bat

Kleinfelter’s Syndrome usually results in infertility.

You beat me to it. Anyway, it shouldn’t be a disqualification, in and of itself.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:17:11pm

re: #345 Eric The Fruit Bat

Kleinfelter’s Syndrome usually results in infertility.

Never mind that—do they have to have their own special bathroom in North Carolina?

348
Dave In Austin  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:17:27pm
349
BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:18:26pm

re: #341 sagehen

It’s pretty good, but…

the Family Feud sketch is truly awesome.

Yes, yes it is.

350
GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:19:31pm

re: #154 Nyet

His tax guy confirmed the docs.

Ohh. Missed that. So his doctor moonlights as his tax guy? ;)

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freetoken  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:21:29pm

But the true believers, who perhaps like Drumpfskind are suffering from various stages of dementia, refuse to look at reality.

In case you missed it, last week conspiracy loon John Voight claimed that Google is conspiring against Drumpfskind:

Google Conspiracy is Legit … TRUMP’S GETTING SABOTAGED!!

The marks jump right in:

Facebook Post

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:22:01pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:22:34pm

Yup. Rage Furby is definitely tweeting now.

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freetoken  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:22:57pm
Serene Silverman May God bless Trump through all this and lies after lies from media and Google biased support illegally and unconstitutionally be EXPOSED HERE and truth will set our country free of corruption once and for all and all those arrogant cocky money grubbing politicans will be exposed and brought low and stopped in their tracks from years and years of lying being supported by Hillarys $$$$$ in Jesus holy name
Like * Reply * 15 hrs

…. sigh….

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:24:44pm

re: #352 FormerDirtDart

I thought David Duke Western Civilization was supposed to have blue eyes.

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austin_blue  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:25:08pm

re: #354 freetoken

…. sigh….

Good thing his fans aren’t all in for the crazy train.

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freetoken  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:25:41pm

re: #355 jaunte

Maybe Duke is trying to avoid stereotypes???

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:26:20pm
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freetoken  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:26:28pm

For David Duke, dyed-blonde hair and brown eyes means he’s not a bigot.

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Ubiq  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:26:32pm

re: #351 freetoken

But the true believers, who perhaps like Drumpfskind are suffering from various stages of dementia, refuse to look at reality.

In case you missed it, last week conspiracy loon John Voight claimed that Google is conspiring against Drumpfskind:

Google Conspiracy is Legit … TRUMP’S GETTING SABOTAGED!!

The marks jump right in:

[Embedded content]

When I think investigative reporting, I think Jon Voigt.

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scottslemmons  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:28:04pm

re: #315 BeachDem

Really—could someone please translate Furby to some semblance of English.

Translation:

Goats Yelling Like Humans - Super Cut Compilation

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Targetpractice  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:29:40pm

So “smart” is not paying income taxes because you lost nearly $1 billion 20 years ago and have manipulated your taxes since so you’re not making more than your losses cover?

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:30:53pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:30:58pm

re: #362 Targetpractice

He has almost certainly suffered losses since then to assist with not paying taxes.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:31:05pm
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Ubiq  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:32:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:33:44pm

re: #353 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yup. Rage Furby is definitely tweeting now.

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[Embedded content]

Yes, that does have his reek on it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:35:03pm

re: #365 goddamnedfrank

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[Embedded content]

In other words while everyone else was making money hand over fist, Donald Trump somehow managed to piss away nearly a billion dollars.

Running a business it’s impossible to lose money in.

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:38:07pm

re: #361 scottslemmons

Translation:

[Embedded content]

Video

Be careful playing that where your dogs can hear it. Causes hysteria. LOL

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2016 • 9:38:49pm

re: #342 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Dan Riehl is going full bore on Twitter trying to discredit Alec Baldwin.

He has nothing better to do with his time? (Rhetorical question)

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philosophus invidius  Oct 1, 2016 • 10:43:12pm

Trump may have lost $916 million in 1995, but that’s $1.4 billion in today’s dollars.
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