Chuck C. Johnson’s Latest Scam Is Another Massive Fail: “Never Before Seen Obama Video”

Chuck C. Johnson hyped this as “a damning video” — it’s a big nothing-burger
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For months cyberstalker Chuck C. Johnson and his racist pal Pax Dickinson have been hyping and promising and conning right wing rubes into sending them money for a “never before seen video” of Barack Obama visiting Kenya in 1990.

Johnson and Dickinson have been telling the rubes the “damning video” will show how Obama “really feels about white people” and “black nationalism.” At Chuck’s whacked out blog, he said it showed Obama “railing against white people.”

Well, they say they finally reached their $10,000 goal for the scam, and now they’ve convinced fellow con artist and Infowars hack Paul Joseph Watson to post it in his YouTube account, with the title: “Never Before Seen Video: Obama Whines About White Privilege.”

I’m not going to embed the video, but you can watch it by clicking here.

The video’s interesting as a look at a young Barack Obama, I suppose, but there’s absolutely nothing newsworthy, inflammatory, or “damning” in it. And Obama doesn’t “whine” or “rail,” of course. At one point he says:

“I’m deeply saddened by a sense that whites are still superior in this country, in some sense, that if you sit at a restaurant, they’re served before a Kenyan is served. If you go through customs, a white person is going to have an easier time going through customs.”

That’s it. That’s the entire sum of Obama’s statements about “white privilege” in this film, and it’s clearly true that in 1990 Kenya this was the case. He says nothing about “black nationalism” at all. His tone throughout the video is thoughtful and respectful, exactly as you might expect.

Rarely have I seen such a blatant scam. If Johnson and Dickinson really did raise $10,000 (and we have only their word for this) from gullible wingnuts hoping to see something that would take down Obama once and for all, they’re going to be greatly disappointed, because this is one of the most tasteless nothing-burgers ever served up by right wing con men.

I’ll make a bold prediction, though; it may not have anything to do with this video, but there’s absolutely no doubt Barack Obama will not be elected president this year.

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201 comments
1
Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:06:46pm

OT, but any news from Haiti?

2
allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:08:09pm

Yabbut, I bet Obama won’t be elected again in November.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:09:56pm

re: #1 Ziggy_TARDIS

OT, but any news from Haiti?

Very little, but I haven’t heard anything horrific yet. I have a few contacts down there, but it’s been pretty quiet.

4
Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:11:46pm

Arumph!! Well, I certainly won’t be voting for Obama again, that’s for dang sure!!

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451_Montag  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:12:10pm

re: #2 allegro

Yabbut, I bet Obama won’t be elected again in November.

Write in?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:12:51pm

re: #1 Ziggy_TARDIS

OT, but any news from Haiti?

Unfortunately, Matthew is hitting Haiti hard.

cnn.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:13:20pm

re: #5 451_Montag

Write in?

Sure.

It’s spelled “Hillary R. Clinton”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:13:34pm

I wonder how badly Obama would beat Trump if they could run against each other?

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:14:26pm

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

Unfortunately, Matthew is hitting Haiti hard.

cnn.com

I found another post from one of my contacts. Said the south of Haiti is getting obliterated. Ugh.

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:15:17pm

So someone who is smart enough to have $10,000 lying around uncommitted is stupid enough to blow it on something this dumb?

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:17:17pm

re: #10 allegro

Or a thousand dumb people who decided they’d rather have a “never seen video” of Obama than a six pack.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:17:44pm

re: #9 thedopefishlives

I found another post from one of my contacts. Said the south of Haiti is getting obliterated. Ugh.

Then wrecking the commo will keep even the Haitians from knowing how bad they’re hit.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:17:47pm

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

I was aware of that. Dr. Masters said it is the strongest storm to strike Haiti in 52 years.

I am wondering how bad the aftermath will be.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:18:35pm

re: #9 thedopefishlives

Damnit. This is going to ended up being 5 figures in death toll, isn’t it?

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:18:45pm

Future Attorney General in the Trump administration says:

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:19:18pm

He just can’t stand it when someone else is in the spotlight.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:20:25pm

re: #14 Ziggy_TARDIS

Damnit. This is going to ended up being 5 figures in death toll, isn’t it?

Find a Muslim charity like Red Crescent that’s going to launch a team, and sign up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:20:50pm

re: #16 jaunte

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He just can’t stand it when someone else is in the spotlight.

Can’t you just imagine a network cutting to Trump interview and showing the debate in a small corner of the screen?

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:21:09pm

Am I going to need alcohol for tonight?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:21:30pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

I have set up my Amazon Smile Account to donate to Islamic Relief USA. They are good people.

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:21:43pm

Somebody should write a book about Obama travelling to Kenya in 1990. They should call it “Dreams of my Father”and I would be willing to bet it would be a best seller.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:22:23pm

Well, probably good thing that I filled up today, and picked up some water for me and the beasts.
There will be a lot of panic buying tomorrow and Thursday
For the uninitiated, Palm Coast basically halfway between Daytona Beach and St. Augustine on I95. That whole area is a magnet for for storms. And, it’s been a while since the area got hit hard, so they’re due

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:23:06pm

re: #20 Ziggy_TARDIS

I have set up my Amazon Smile Account to donate to Islamic Relief USA. They are good people.

Money’s good, but send your ass. That’s where you are going to meet a cool, strong, useful Muslim girl.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:23:51pm

re: #19 allegro

Am I going to need alcohol for tonight?

Why would you ever be without?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:23:55pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Taking classes, but once the storm passes, I shall see. I might see if there is a way to swing both.

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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:24:14pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how badly Obama would beat Trump if they could run against each other?

53% to 47%! /

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:24:22pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Money’s good, but send your ass. That’s where you are going to meet a cool, strong, useful Muslim girl.

Not to mention, a girl who volunteers would be impressed by a man who volunteers. Ask me how I know.

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:25:35pm

re: #24 thedopefishlives

Why would you ever be without?

Well… there’s… hell, good point. BBIAB

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:27:37pm

re: #28 allegro

Well… there’s… hell, good point. BBIAB

What’s ironic about that is that I am intentionally abstaining (well, at least from the hard stuff) for a couple of weeks.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:28:53pm

Who says “mining” is a dying trade in America?
“Tweet-mining” has never been more lucrative…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:29:34pm

It looks like Matthew is only going to just barely clip Cuba.

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BeachDem  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:30:55pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart

Well, probably good thing that I filled up today, and picked up some water for me and the beasts.
There will be a lot of panic buying tomorrow and Thursday
For the uninitiated, Palm Coast basically halfway between Daytona Beach and St. Augustine on I95. That whole area is a magnet for for storms. And, it’s been a while since the area got hit hard, so they’re due

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I filled up last week when there were panic reports of gas shortages and price gouging because of a broken pipeline in Georgia. (I don’t drive much, so the tank is still full.)

Playing wait and see for at least the next 24 hours here—not that I don’t trust Nikki Haley’s judgment…

Stay safe.

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:38:29pm

The video is interesting. There is nothing in it that a sane person could find remotely controversial. it’s a home movie filmed by his half sister which shows the 28 year old Obama talking with his various family members. Smart young man, might make something of himself.

Never Before Seen Video: Obama Whines About White Privilege

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:39:41pm

Something is changing, at least where I’m at, all of my FB friends that were posting Trump stuff everyday have now not posted any Trump stuff in about a week.

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:40:41pm

re: #20 Ziggy_TARDIS

I have set up my Amazon Smile Account to donate to Islamic Relief USA. They are good people.

That’s a good one. I use our local food pantry for my Smile account.

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nickzi  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:41:09pm

This is clearly another win for Obama. With magnificent cunning he announced ‘Don’t do stupid shit” as a principle - and conservatives promptly rejected it. Unsurprisingly, the Little Johnson That Can’t took the lead, although Dinesh D’Snoozer will surely play catch up in the near future.

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nickzi  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:42:15pm

re: #34 Tigger2

It’s almost like someone built a wall between them and the Cuckwork Orange.

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bratwurst  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:43:11pm

Tenth night in Spain here. Leaving amazing Andalucía tomorrow for Madrid where I fly out of on Thursday. Glad to report I have had a fantastic time and my health has been almost uniformly good this whole time…even standing up to the 92 degree heat in Sevilla today.

I will try to write a bit about Spain after I get home, really have fallen in love with the place…before this trip I had only ever been to Barcelona, which is not REALLY Spain. I am sorry I spent so many years living in Europe without getting down here sooner.

As my announcement that I was going to bed before the debate last week resulted in a good outcome, I shall do the same tonight. Buenas noches de Sevilla!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:43:16pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:46:35pm

re: #35 William Lewis

They usually help out outside the US, but they have been increasingly helping at home.

First one was Katrina. Since then, they have gotten to the point where they are responding as often as the Mennonites and Red Cross.

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:47:08pm

re: #34 Tigger2

Something is changing, at least where I’m at, none of my FB friends that were posting Trump stuff everyday, they now have posted no Trump stuff in about a week.

It’s what I’ve been saying for weeks, in six months every conservative you talk to will insist that they never supported Trump. They supported the GOP, they supported “the nominee,” but they never supported Trump. Even the most diehard falls will suddenly act as though he just waltzed in one day, snatched the nomination, and then took the party for a ride that ended in failure for him and him alone.

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Skip Intro  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:48:00pm

The right wing is blessed with one thing: an almost unlimited population of really stupid people with money to burn.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:48:14pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

It’s what I’ve been saying for weeks, in six months every conservative you talk to will insist that they never supported Trump. They supported the GOP, they supported “the nominee,” but they never supported Trump. Even the most diehard falls will suddenly act as though he just waltzed in one day, snatched the nomination, and then took the party for a ride that ended in failure for him and him alone.

DNC needs to make sure that albatross necktie stays firmly knotted.

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Skip Intro  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:50:29pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t you just imagine a network cutting to Trump interview and showing the debate in a small corner of the screen?

He’ll be on Hannity doing a play by play.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:50:57pm

re: #31 Ziggy_TARDIS

It looks like Matthew is only going to just barely clip Cuba.

Northern eyewall is onshore.

radar.weather.gov

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:51:58pm

Evening dogwalk. Back for the funfest.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:52:36pm

re: #45 austin_blue

Yep. Hit at one of the narrowest points. It will be out into the waters of the Bahamas in a few hours.

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KGxvi  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:54:10pm

re: #2 allegro

Yabbut, I bet Obama won’t be elected again in November.

Interestingly, since ratification of the 22nd Amendment, the only three presidents that had the youth/health to run for a third term were the last three.

I think Bill Clinton would have wiped the floor with Bush in 2000. But hell only knows what would have happened if 9/11 still goes down… Either way, we probably get a Republican in 2004. And depending on who it was, maybe never have gotten Obama

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:54:27pm

Someone at Dr. Master’s blog at the Weather Underground who is in the Caymans just showed a picture. Apparently, the US Military has deployed helicopters to be used for aid at the soonest possible moment.

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KGxvi  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:55:31pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

He’ll be on Hannity doing a play by play.

Wait… For real? Because I saw a tweet someone posted here earlier that said he’d be live tweeting the debate

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CuriousLurker  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:56:17pm

Kentucky House candidate is unapologetic over racist Obama posts

He claims the posts with the monkey images were “satire.” Uh, no, they weren’t, you filthy pig—learn what “satire” means.

He also defended his posts that included the Confederate flag: “That flag was for state rights. The reason it is under attack now is we’re being attacked as state rights and constitutionalists. We are being attacked.”

Yeah, states’ rights because the white people felt it was their God-given right to own “inferior” black people as chattel and the federal government disagreed.

What’s more, he defended several anti-Muslim posts, saying, “My thing for Islam, if you want to be in America, be an American. The thing about all religions in America, they don’t oppose America or want to destroy America, or some way or another get us to take on another law, like Sharia law. I hate that.”

WTF—why is it that very damned thing that falls out of these idiots’ mouths is either a lie or a bigoted, racist insult?

I’m so sick of this shit. November 8 can’t get here fast enough for me.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:56:56pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

He’ll be on Hannity doing a play by play.

Reminds me … Did reporters call Hannity like Trump asked?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:57:38pm
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dangerman  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:58:00pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

It’s what I’ve been saying for weeks, in six months every conservative you talk to will insist that they never supported Trump. They supported the GOP, they supported “the nominee,” but they never supported Trump. Even the most diehard falls will suddenly act as though he just waltzed in one day, snatched the nomination, and then took the party for a ride that ended in failure for him and him alone.

that would be more convincing if he ends up under 40%

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 3:58:10pm

re: #52 philosophus invidius

Reminds me … Did reporters call Hannity like Trump asked?

Call him what, an asshole? I do that every time I hear his name.

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dangerman  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:00:07pm

re: #43 Decatur Deb

DNC needs to make sure that albatross necktie stays firmly knotted.

they’re already working on it

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:01:31pm

re: #39 Ziggy_TARDIS

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:03:16pm
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CuriousLurker  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:03:23pm

LOL, I see we have a new vocabulary word thanks to butthurt wingnuts: ‘I stayed up all night for this?!’: Trump fans seethe after WikiLeaks’ #OctoberSurprise is a bust

Why, yes, you’ve been #wikirolled.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:05:13pm

re: #59 CuriousLurker

LOL, I see we have a new vocabulary word thanks to butthurt wingnuts: ‘I stayed up all night for this?!’: Trump fans seethe after WikiLeaks’ #OctoberSurprise is a bust

Why yes, you’ve been #wikirolled.

That shit’s funny, I don’t care who y’are.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:06:36pm

Read & weep.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:08:02pm

re: #59 CuriousLurker

I wonder if anyone on the Right has said “He’s REALLY gonna reveal it another time. This was just to psych out the Lib’ruls!”

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:10:12pm

re: #62 Blind Frog Belly White

I wonder if anyone on the Right has said “He’s REALLY gonna reveal it another time. This was just to psych out the Lib’ruls!”

Yes, there was at least one Freeper who was on it this morning.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:10:46pm

re: #63 calochortus

Yes, there was at least one Freeper who was on it this morning.

Hope springs eternal…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:11:07pm

re: #52 philosophus invidius

Reminds me … Did reporters call Hannity like Trump asked?

Some sports guys did, got him & he hung up. Can remember who they were.

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:11:12pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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nickzi  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:12:40pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

It’s what I’ve been saying for weeks, in six months every conservative you talk to will insist that they never supported Trump. They supported the GOP, they supported “the nominee,” but they never supported Trump. Even the most diehard falls will suddenly act as though he just waltzed in one day, snatched the nomination, and then took the party for a ride that ended in failure for him and him alone.

Before the Cuck crows they will disown him three times.

Except at private meetings of ‘constitutional conservatives’, of course.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:14:34pm

Astounding video of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport and its future flight to Mars. Elon Musk is a true visionary. This monster will have 4 times the thrust of the Saturn V. Note that the launch is from Pad 39A, the old Apollo 11 launch site. We are accustomed to great CGI of spaceflight but this one is from people who can, and I believe actually will, do it. I also believe that I will live to see it. (be sure to watch full screen)

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dangerman  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:15:00pm

October 4

electoral-vote.com

2016: clinton 323, trump 215
2012: obama 332, romney 206
2008: obama 338, mccain 185, ties 15

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ninja cat  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:17:55pm

re: #38 bratwurst

Tenth night in Spain here. Leaving amazing Andalucía tomorrow for Madrid where I fly out of on Thursday. Glad to report I have had a fantastic time and my health has been almost uniformly good this whole time…even standing up to the 92 degree heat in Sevilla today.

I will try to write a bit about Spain after I get home, really have fallen in love with the place…before this trip I had only ever been to Barcelona, which is not REALLY Spain. I am sorry I spent so many years living in Europe without getting down here sooner.

As my announcement that I was going to bed before the debate last week resulted in a good outcome, I shall do the same tonight. Buenas noches de Sevilla!

I will look forward to hearing about your trip. I am in the early planning stages of a Madrid/Sevilla/Lisbon trip for next May. Safe travels.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:21:52pm

re: #66 Tigger2

Flynnfowars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:22:32pm

CSPAN showing the Biden/Ryan 2012 VP debate.

Good times!

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:23:05pm

re: #68 Shiplord Kirel

Astounding video of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport and its future flight to Mars. Elon Musk is a true visionary. This monster will have 4 times the thrust of the Saturn V. Note that the launch is from Pad 39A, the old Apollo 11 launch site. We are accustomed to great CGI of spaceflight but this one is from people who can, and I believe actually will, do it. I also believe that I will live to see it. (be sure to watch full screen)

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That was fantastic. I was wondering if Buzz is a part of this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:24:49pm

MrBWS just called.
He’s heading to NC Friday morning if not sooner.

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:24:54pm
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nines09  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:25:10pm

The internet. Gateway to the future. A virtual library at your fingertips. Questions? Ask various seach engines, whose sole purpose is to steer you towards truth and fact. Yes The internet, where all…(at this point in time the internet hit a concrete bridge abutment at about 109 miles an hour)…AND WITH ONE SIMPLE TRICK…..WOMEN BEG FOR…..LOSE WEIGHT WHILE YOU SLEEP…..DIG UP DIRT ON YOUR NEIGHBORS AND MAKE MONEY…….TROUBLE POOPING?….YOU TOO CAN HAVE A FULL HEAD OF…..OBAMA IS A DEMON….CHRIST WAS A CIA AGENT…..BEN FRANKLIN CARRIED AN M-15……NEED MONEY? CHECK THIS VIDEO…..THEY NEVER KNEW THE CAMERA WAS ON!….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:26:23pm

re: #75 darthstar

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:27:38pm

re: #76 nines09

The internet. Gateway to the future. A virtual library at your fingertips. Questions? Ask various seach engines, whose sole purpose is to steer you towards truth and fact. Yes The internet, where all…(at this point in time the internet hit a concrete bridge abutment at about 109 miles an hour)…AND WITH ONE SIMPLE TRICK…..WOMEN BEG FOR…..LOSE WEIGHT WHILE YOU SLEEP…..DIG UP DIRT ON YOUR NEIGHBORS AND MAKE MONEY…….TROUBLE POOPING?….YOU TOO CAN HAVE A FULL HEAD OF…..OBAMA IS A DEMON….CHRIST WAS A CIA AGENT…..BEN FRANKLIN CARRIED AN M-15……NEED MONEY? CHECK THIS VIDEO…..THEY NEVER KNEW THE CAMERA WAS ON!….

And boobs. Don’t forget boobs.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:28:03pm
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nines09  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:28:22pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

And boobs. Don’t forget boobs.

If I went on I would still be typing…..BUT THEY NEVER KNEW THE CAMERA WAS ON..

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:29:35pm

Elon Musk is routinely vilified by the RWNJs, even though he is a near-fanatical patriot and American nationalist (a characteristic he shares with many other successful immigrants). Their attacks are based mostly on bullshit talking points that I believe are distributed by the increasingly desperate legacy contractors and their many media shills and pet politicians. The legacies, mostly Boeing and Lockheed-Martin, have seen their 60 year old gravy train derailed and their profiteering and influence peddling exposed by an upstart. If not for their political influence, that train would have been derailed, run off the bridge, and washed to sea several years ago.

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:29:40pm

This is their “Hillary was the loser of the VP debate article” - two sentences.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:30:57pm

re: #75 darthstar

now 404d

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:31:21pm

re: #82 darthstar

This is their “Hillary was the loser of the VP debate article” - two sentences.

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“But the REAL winners were the American People….”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:31:56pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:32:09pm

re: #59 CuriousLurker

LOL, I see we have a new vocabulary word thanks to butthurt wingnuts: ‘I stayed up all night for this?!’: Trump fans seethe after WikiLeaks’ #OctoberSurprise is a bust

Why, yes, you’ve been #wikirolled.

LOL!! Should have went to bed. The only October Surprise is that Republicans are dumb enough to think that Trump could be President.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:32:58pm

Well, somebody posted a tweet beating me to my “Be sure to drink your Ovaltine” joke for the WikiLeaks “bombshell” and I’ve been sulking ever since…but now I’m ready for all you masochists to watch Tim Kaine take Pence to the woodshed so I don’t have to. Give him Hell, Tim!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:33:09pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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Think they’ll bother writing up a new blurb? Or just make the same page live again?

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:36:25pm
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MsJ  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:36:39pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

Think they’ll bother writing up a new blurb? Or just make the same page live again?

Since the GOP lacks originality, I’m going with the latter.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:37:24pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

Had the same thought!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:38:13pm

re: #90 MsJ

Since the GOP lacks originality, I’m going with the latter.

Maybe they’ll have Meredith McIver write a new one, which will be completely identical to the old one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:39:32pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Had the same thought!

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I’m thinking that if Kaine makes toast out of Pence, they won’t bother writing a new one.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:39:51pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe they’ll have Meredith McIver write a new one, which will be completely identical to the old one.

Except they’ll go back to the “T-screwing-P” logo.

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:40:19pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m thinking that if Kaine makes toast out of Pence, they won’t bother writing a new one.

If?

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nines09  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:40:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:41:12pm

re: #95 allegro

If?

Well, Pence isn’t Trump. It’s not likely he can be baited into incoherence.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:41:13pm

Russia is becoming a menace. Again.

The next U.S. administration will inherit the worst relationship with Russia since Ronald Reagan called the Soviet Union an evil empire. Judging from the list of grievances that President Vladimir Putin has laid out, even a relatively Putin-friendly Donald Trump will have a hard time satisfying him.

Putin delivered his message to the future U.S. president Monday, just as the U.S. State Department announced it was suspending negotiations with Russia on a ceasefire in Syria and Russia-backed Syrian troops moved to take more ground in Aleppo. In a bill submitted to parliament, Putin threatened to end a joint U.S.-Russian disarmament program — in which surplus weapons-grade plutonium is processed into fuel — unless the U.S. meets certain conditions:

Roll back North Atlantic Treaty Organization infrastructure and reduce NATO personnel to September 2000 levels;

Repeal the Magnitsky Act, which imposed sanctions on Russian officials involved in human rights violations;

Repeal all U.S. sanctions against Russian individuals and businesses;

Compensate Russians for damages incurred by U.S. sanctions and by Russia’s “forced countersanctions”;

Present a “clear plan of irreversible destruction” of U.S. surplus plutonium.

I invite Russia to eat dirt.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:41:34pm
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BeachDem  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:42:23pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

CSPAN showing the Biden/Ryan 2012 VP debate.

Good times!

MALARKEY!

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MsJ  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:43:30pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe they’ll have Meredith McIver write a new one, which will be completely identical to the old one.

BOOM!

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:44:07pm

re: #98 Ziggy_TARDIS

Russia is becoming a menace. Again.

I invite Russia to eat dirt.

State Dept response: “Nuts.”

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petesh  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:44:39pm

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, Pence isn’t Trump. It’s not likely he can be baited into incoherence.

Baiting not required … Pence was alt-right before it was a thing (which he likely still doesn’t get). I admit he may improve on the boss grammatically, but there is no way to untangle the thoughts rattling around his skull into coherent form.

Say I, ahead of time. Hope he doesn’t prove me wrong!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:44:54pm

re: #25 Ziggy_TARDIS

Taking classes, but once the storm passes, I shall see. I might see if there is a way to swing both.

You don’t have to actually go to Haiti. Find a local group organizing relief efforts and join them.

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:46:05pm

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, Pence isn’t Trump. It’s not likely he can be baited into incoherence.

Good point. I was thinking of the word “abhorrence”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:47:18pm

re: #31 Ziggy_TARDIS

It looks like Matthew is only going to just barely clip Cuba.

Not sure that “barely clipping” means the same thing as “…NORTHERN EYEWALL OF EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE MATTHEW ALREADY POUNDING THE EASTERN TIP OF CUBA…” as reported at 5 pm by NHC.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:48:34pm

Gen. Flynn deleted that retweet of the loony deplorable.

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:48:38pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not sure that “barely clipping” means the same thing as “…NORTHERN EYEWALL OF EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE MATTHEW ALREADY POUNDING THE EASTERN TIP OF CUBA…” as reported at 5 pm by NHC.

And it’s the west side that’s “dirty”. Nasty storm.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:50:23pm

This is the funeral for the little student who was shot at school. :(

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:51:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:52:15pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:52:26pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:53:28pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:54:05pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

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Pence has a lock on winning the Participation trophy.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:56:46pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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He was the logical choice for Vice President because, had he stood for re-election in Indiana (one of the most conservative states in the country), he would have gotten his ass handed to him. And yet some buffoon was fool enough to pick him for a running mate.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:57:55pm

re: #113 FormerDirtDart

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Barron’s ready.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:58:11pm

Matthew now making landfall eastern tip of Cuba:
nhc.noaa.gov

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Kragar  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:59:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:59:47pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 4:59:51pm

I’m watching CNN, Anne Holton (Kaine’s wife) is great.

She ended the interview that better together is the theme of the campaign & a theme for their life.

So damn nice.

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:00:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:00:42pm

re: #47 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yep. Hit at one of the narrowest points. It will be out into the waters of the Bahamas in a few hours.

You do realize that the eyewall is just a very very tiny part of the entire hurricane effects?
The fact that the eyewall is at “one of the narrowest tips” doesn’t mean anything like a glancing blow to Cuba.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:01:41pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

I meaning in regards to how much Matthew will have his organization effected.

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:03:55pm
125
calochortus  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:04:40pm

Oh look, creepy clown threats have come to northern CA.
Just shoot me now. At least the police are telling people to relax and quit interacting with the idiots on Twitter.

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:05:21pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

You do realize that the eyewall is just a very very tiny part of the entire hurricane effects?
The fact that the eyewall is at “one of the narrowest tips” doesn’t mean anything like a glancing blow to Cuba.

ANd the eye itself is an entirely peaceful place. Actually a pretty cool experience standing dead in the eye of one. Clear and sunny until that wall hits on the opposite side of it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:05:26pm

By Zardoz, they did more than one page.

More than one.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:07:18pm

Epic, just epic…

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:08:45pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:09:24pm

I hope Kaine opens with this: Hey everyone. Glad to be here… even though my opponent was declared winner hours ago.

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Brian J.  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:11:40pm

Hello again! I’m watching the Canadian sportsball this evening. Should I keep watching that for the rest of the night, or switch to the debate at the top of the hour?

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:12:11pm

Right-wingers I tell ya, they have the best senses of humor!

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:13:01pm

re: #131 Brian J.

Hello again! I’m watching the Canadian sportsball this evening. Should I keep watching that for the rest of the night, or switch to the debate at the top of the hour?

Stick with the Bluebirds. You don’t want to watch the shit we’re dealing with here tonight.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:13:25pm

re: #131 Brian J.

Hello again! I’m watching the Canadian sportsball this evening. Should I keep watching that for the rest of the night, or switch to the debate at the top of the hour?

Sportsball is a no-brainer here.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:13:33pm

Love how the 404 page just demonstrates the scale of pettiness that accompanies so much presumption that you pre-write your debate responses.

Mind you, I still hold that everything they write—including these stupid pages—they do not believe to be true, but rather anticipate that they will make it true.

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Kragar  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:14:11pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:14:19pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

A train wreck calling something else a train wreck.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:14:28pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

Epic, just epic…

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Yup that’s my fellow South Austinite. Of course, he lives well south of me so he’s not cool like we are in the ‘04.
//

Trust fund baby Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen! Raving lunatic! Can you believe he’s only forty two?

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:14:40pm

re: #135 The Ghost of a Flea

Mind you, I still hold that everything they write—including these stupid pages—they do not believe to be true, but rather anticipate that they will make it true.

Imprecatory prayer.

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Brian J.  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:15:21pm

re: #133 Frankie Five Angels

Stick with the Bluebirds. You don’t want to watch the shit we’re dealing with here tonight.

Sounds good to me, but I’ll be with you guys taking another dose of medicine on Sunday. Best of luck.

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nickzi  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:15:45pm

re: #138 austin_blue

Yup that’s my fellow South Austinite. Of course, he lives well south of me so he’s not cool like we are in the ‘04.
//

Trust fund baby Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen! Raving lunatic! Can you believe he’s only forty two?

If the 42 applies to his IQ, yes, easily.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:15:57pm

re: #126 allegro

ANd the eye itself is an entirely peaceful place. Actually a pretty cool experience standing dead in the eye of one. Clear and sunny until that wall hits on the opposite side of it.

When I was a teenager David came through North Palm Beach Florida. My family still talks about our adventure of being Florida Man/Florida Family who got in car to escape the hell of no power to take a drive during the eye. We barely got back in time.

No power for 3 days, 4 teenagers & my parents. I think my Mom bought bologna & bread. It was hell.

en.wikipedia.org

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Brian J.  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:16:16pm

re: #136 Kragar

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“This is a MOVEMENT like nobody has ever seen before.”

I can think of one movement I’ve seen like that.

Jurassic Park One Big Pile Shit Stinger

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:16:44pm

Can’t help but be struck by how fucking Soviet this shit is.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:16:47pm

re: #139 jaunte

Imprecatory prayer.

Look at you, you Jesuit trained smartypants!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:16:55pm

re: #136 Kragar

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Is it just me, or does that Arizona flag look like it should belong to some People’s Democratic Republic somewhere?

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:18:04pm

re: #133 Frankie Five Angels

Stick with the Bluebirds. You don’t want to watch the shit we’re dealing with here tonight.

I think this has been a funshit show campaign season that I’ve learned to enjoy. But you really need a good umbrella and the best waders. And don’t look too closely at those odd-colored, ill-smelling puddles you must wade through.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:18:10pm

re: #138 austin_blue

Trust fund baby Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen! Raving lunatic! Can you believe he’s only forty two?

Get outta town!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:18:13pm

re: #136 Kragar

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Brian J.  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:19:35pm

re: #147 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Is it just me, or does that Arizona flag look like it should belong to some People’s Democratic Republic somewhere?

And look how hard he’s working to hold a state that the Democrats have won once since my father was born (1950).

And as a bonus for the Democrats to work extra hard, they may be able to send Joe Arpaio packing as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:21:05pm

re: #136 Kragar

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My friend in PV who attended the rally to protest managed to get home unscathed.

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:21:40pm

Has anyone else here noticed that Donald’s “likes” on his tweets have gone down significantly?

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:22:07pm

re: #149 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Get outta town!

Yup. Born in late ‘74. Just before the black helicopters were designed.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:23:21pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

When I was a teenager David came through North Palm Beach Florida. My family still talks about our adventure of being Florida Man/Florida Family who got in car to escape the hell of no power to take a drive during the eye. We barely got back in time.

No power for 3 days, 4 teenagers & my parents. I think my Mom bought bologna & bread. It was hell.

en.wikipedia.org

Just reading the wiki.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:24:51pm

re: #138 austin_blue

Whenever I’m visiting my fam in Austin, he has this uncanny ability to also dine at Uchi the same night I do.

Next time, I’ll send a bottle of cheap wine his way, compliments of Julian A.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:24:58pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:26:59pm

re: #139 jaunte

Imprecatory prayer.

My first thought is actual of the doomed attempt by the Munich Post to land a final blow—before being ransacked, the staff transported to concentration camps, and the address struck from the map—against Nazism by debunking its ur-conspiracy theory, the Dolchstoßlegende.

“Post-truth” stuff should scare the shit out of everyone. It means that the guiding ideology isn’t actually whole or coherent, just a way of prioritizing targets.

159
Frankie Five Angels  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:27:31pm

Put a camera in front of a fan and it’s instant douche.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:27:50pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea

That is why I am keeping an eye on Hurricane Matthew. When a hurricane is mentioned on the front page of the local branch of the National Weather Service it is important.
weather.gov

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:28:07pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

IGMFY is their overarching philosophy innit.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:29:06pm

“The RNC also helpfully summed up Pence’s “top moments,” including exchanges on the economy and “Hillary’s scandals” ― none of which had happened.”
huffingtonpost.com?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:30:26pm

I see Reince in the house.
He looks a bit constipated…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:31:58pm

Kellyanne whispering in Reince’s ear…ewwwww…uber creepy.

165
Frankie Five Angels  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:35:17pm

Moonshot, Joey Bats. 1-0, Jays.

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:36:29pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see Reince in the house.
He looks a bit constipated…

That’s his natural state of being, constantly full of shit.

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Kragar  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:37:05pm
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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:37:15pm

re: #165 Frankie Five Angels

Moonshot, Joey Bats. 1-0, Jays.

That one just about didn’t make it.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:37:33pm

re: #167 Kragar

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He doesn’t need the help to sound bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:40:07pm

my friend’s account from Prescott Valley today:

We are so tired. I got there about 7:30, A****** around 9:30. A line had already formed, maybe 200 people. Elvis was there got a pic of him, all resplendent in white. There was 1 lady there in the protest area, A****** and I made 3, made us a little nervous but we held up our signs proudly. The protest area was huge and right across from one of the entrances.
I’ve never seen so much law enforcement in one place. We stayed until Trump coptered in, which was around 2:00. We couldn’t stay any longer, 6.5 hours on our feet took it’s toll. Sheriff dept made sure we had water, handing us water when we asked. There must be hundreds of pics out there of us both. As the hot, sunny morn wore on we were joined by more protesters and by the time we left, I’d say maybe 150, would be a good final count.
You could tell when you were going to be confronted on the issues, the anger was there on their faces before they reached the protest area. Plastic fencing was all there was between us and them. I was spat at and challenged to come from behind the fencing, I guess to be pummeled. A******’s arm was grabbed by a angry vet, I saw it and rushed to her and berated the guy in no uncertain terms. Law enforcement witnessed the altercation and ordered another fence to be placed between us and them, about a 6ft barrier. It was really an experience we will never forget. After were both dead and gone, we will live on as long as there is you tube. there were a lot of young kids who surprised us with their political knowledge, we found that to be encouraging.
There were they say about 7500 inside and I would give a generous guess as to about 4000 outside. I took pics, I just have to figure out how to get them off my phone, I’ve never done that before
I met a fellow protester from my home town (Ann Arbor, Mi) He graduated 3 years after me. I’ll write more later if I can remember something I forget. Trump did copter in from Phx.

My friend and his wife are retired and up in years and not in the greatest of health, but I’m so proud of them that age and circumstances did not stop them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:40:45pm

Ground rules now being announced at the VP debate

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:40:57pm

re: #156 GlutenFreeJesus

Whenever I’m visiting my fam in Austin, he has this uncanny ability to also dine at Uchi the same night I do.

Next time, I’ll send a bottle of cheap wine his way, compliments of Julian A.

Never seen him at Uchi, which is She Who Must be Obeyed’s and my Thursday date night (we go early and sit at the Sushi bar, a great value at an extraordinary restaurant). Thanks for the tip. I’ll remind the server’s (who are our good friends) to put Visine in his food. Tasteless, odorless, and explosive diarrhea inducing. Handy stuff.

173
thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:42:30pm

Tomorrow feels like it should be Thursday. The last week and a half, or so, has been utterly dragging by.

174
teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:43:48pm

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:44:53pm

re: #174 teleskiguy

Photos that make me feel “chiseled.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:44:59pm
177
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:47:13pm

Eric Trump in the audience.

178
HappyWarrior  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:47:36pm

Gonna be checking what you guys say about the debate since I’m watching baseball.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:48:26pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Gonna be checking what you guys say about the debate since I’m watching baseball.

Three cheers for the sportsball club!

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:49:01pm

I loved this show growing up because I liked to make fun of Archie, But I never thought I would be on it.

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Brian J.  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:50:08pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Gonna be checking what you guys say about the debate since I’m watching baseball.

Remarkable political imbalance in the playoffs this year- seven deep blue-state teams (Boston, Mets, Baltimore, Washington, Cubs, LA, SF), one Canadian team (Toronto), one swing-state team (Cleveland) and the Texas Rangers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:50:59pm

re: #181 Brian J.

Remarkable political imbalance in the playoffs this year- seven deep blue-state teams (Boston, Mets, Baltimore, Washington, Cubs, LA, SF), one Canadian team (Toronto), one swing-state team (Cleveland) and the Texas Rangers.

Heh never thought about it like that. Go O’s tho.

183
PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:51:31pm

re: #180 Tigger2

Carroll O’Connor had far more class than that Trump person will ever have.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:51:36pm

looks like it’s gonna be 10 minutes of looking at an empty stage…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:52:20pm

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

Carroll O’Connor had far more class than that Trump person will ever have.

and Edith Bunker was much more likeable.

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:53:18pm

Mike and Gloria would have been Bernie supporters.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:53:22pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes. She was.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:53:34pm

This guy, right here.

189
Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:54:04pm

Look like Weld may be tired of Johnson’s idiocy.

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EPR-radar  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:54:41pm

re: #158 The Ghost of a Flea

My first thought is actual of the doomed attempt by the Munich Post to land a final blow—before being ransacked, the staff transported to concentration camps, and the address struck from the map—against Nazism by debunking its ur-conspiracy theory, the Dolchstoßlegende.

“Post-truth” stuff should scare the shit out of everyone. It means that the guiding ideology isn’t actually whole or coherent, just a way of prioritizing targets.

Exactly. “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities” is taken to be an instruction manual by the US Right.

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BeachDem  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:54:43pm

I’m going to try and watch the debate. Not sure how long I can stand looking at Pence (who I still say is Roger Stone’s twin brother from different mothers.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:54:57pm

families just walked in. Anne Holton is all smiles and hugs for the Pence family. Pence family are politely forced smiles and stiff hugs (except for Mike Pence’s mom who was warm in responding to Anne’s hug)..

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:55:03pm

re: #188 jaunte

OMG. That is the last thing any parent needs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:55:34pm

re: #186 Tigger2

Mike and Gloria would have been Bernie supporters.

Gloria would have been for Hillz. No doubt about it.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:55:44pm

re: #193 PhillyPretzel

OMG. That is the last thing any parent needs.

Primitive man think.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:56:08pm

re: #193 PhillyPretzel

Outlawing nature.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:57:37pm

re: #188 jaunte

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This guy, right here.

Not just aborted fetuses, but also miscarriages.

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BeachDem  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:59:00pm

Nicolle Wallace is full of shit.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2016 • 5:59:38pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not just aborted fetuses, but also miscarriages.

F———ing lady parts, how do they work?!

*flips desk, lights on fire*

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allegro  Oct 4, 2016 • 6:00:43pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gloria would have been for Hillz. No doubt about it.

Meathead woulda come around.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2016 • 6:02:08pm

re: #200 allegro

Meathead woulda come around.

well yeah…if he knew what was good for him…


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