Wednesday Night Jam: Blue Man Group Takes Over NPR

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September 26, 2016 by BOB BOILEN • They came, they measured, and they returned to perform a show like no other. It was the great NPR Tiny Desk Takeover by Blue Man Group.

If you’ve not seen this performance ensemble and their production in New York, Las Vegas, Orlando, Boston, Chicago or Berlin, then you’ve missed a night of magical fun. These Blue Men may never say a word, but the performances make for poignant looks at who we are as humans. They also make unusual music on instruments of their own design.

Josh Rogosin, our engineer for the Tiny Desk, first saw them in their early days, some 25 years ago at New York’s Astor Place Theatre. He told me how the Blue Men would retrofit some of their theatrical magic — including their custom-made instruments, confetti cannons and streamers — to fit this small desk space.

Every band that plays the Tiny Desk must work within the restrictions of the space. So instead of installing their entire signature PVC instrument, what ended up behind the desk was about a third of it. On the right side of the desk, their Shred Mill makes its internet debut: It’s a drum machine triggered by magnets that changes rhythm depending where they are placed on the home-made variable-speed conveyor belt. They also invented something called a Spinulum, whose rhythmic tempo is controlled by rotating a wheel that plucks steel guitar strings. (You can read a full description on the instruments below.)

In the end the Blue Men and their dressed-down accompanists performed a Tiny Desk concert like no other. I’ve been familiar with their music since my days as director of All Things Considered in the 1990s, when I would play their tunes between news stories. Seeing all this come to life (and I know this is true for Josh, as well) was simply unforgettable. From the unique sounds of the PVC to the strumming sounds of the Spinulum to their “Meditation For Winners” mantras, you’ll get a taste of why this troupe’s art is so universal and so much fun.

THE INSTRUMENTS

(as told to us by the Blue Man Group)

Chapman Stick: A combination of a guitar, a bass guitar, and a washboard, the Chapman Stick is 10 strings and all neck. While it can be played with fingers, we often bow the Stick with a bass string. This method, pioneered by Blue Man Group, is called the Mandelbrot Stick Technique.

Cimbalom: An old hammered chromatic string instrument from Hungary that we gave a plywood update to. It’s normally played gently with soft mallets, but Blue Man Group hits it aggressively with drumsticks.

Shredmill: Making its internet debut, this new Blue Man Group creation is a treadmill-shaped, electro-mechanical sequencer that a Blue Man (or anyone else) can use to create rhythmic patterns. Placing and/or moving the Shred Mill’s tiny little magnets in order to change the sequence (“shredding”) is dangerously addictive. If you are ever presented with the opportunity to shred, proceed at your own risk.

Spinulum: Have you ever watched Wheel of Fortune and thought to yourself, “I wonder what would happen if I took that wheel, shrunk it down to about a foot in diameter, mounted it to a stand, and replaced that little white flipper with steel guitar strings?” Us too! The Spinulum is a brand new Blue Man Group instrument that is part slide guitar, part bicycle wheel, and 100 percent dynamite!

PVC: Blue Man Group’s signature instrument is comprised of several lengths of polyvinyl chloride pipe that make an almost synthesizer-like sound when struck with a closed-cell foam rubber paddle. This performance only includes the center, high-octave section of the PVC. This is not because we have a problem with the other sections of the PVC. We actually really like them. There just wasn’t enough space. It’s a tiny desk.

MIDI PVC: The signature Blue Man Group PVC instrument shrunk down and electrified.

SET LIST:
“Vortex”
“The Forge”
“Meditation For Winners”

Blue Man Group’s Three is available now:
iTunes: itunes.apple.com
Amazon: amazon.com

CREDITS:
Producers: Bob Boilen, Josh Rogosin, Niki Walker; Blue Man Group Producer: Anita Shah; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Colin Marshall, Nick Michael, Kara Frame, Claire Hannah Collins; Blue Man Group Music & Creative Director: Jeff Turlik; Blue Man Group Director: David Bray; Production Assistant: CJ Riculan; Special Thanks: Blue Man Group Crew; Photo: Claire Harbage/NPR.

For more Tiny Desk concerts, subscribe to our podcast: npr.org

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ipsos  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:03:56pm

Better the Blue Man Group than the Orange Homunculus Assemblage.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:05:51pm

Finally News from Haiti.

Not good.

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Jenner7  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:07:03pm

Drying out now. What a long day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:09:03pm

Read the whole ‘toon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:09:37pm

We are in End Times.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:10:03pm
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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:11:41pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Muhahahahahahahahahah, oh, my that is too funny. Thanks!

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Scout  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:13:14pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Read the whole ‘toon.

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Forgive me, but I don’t get the final frame….

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:15:00pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

We are in End Times.

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I remember the first time Denny’s closed for Christmas—about half the stores had no door locks, so they had to be installed posthaste.

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:15:00pm

Delightful! The last number is especially fun!

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scottslemmons  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:15:24pm

re: #8 Scout

Forgive me, but I don’t get the final frame….

The bear is Pedobear, another more-or-less innocent cartoon that got turned (more humorously) into something else.

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Scout  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:17:12pm

re: #11 scottslemmons

The bear is Pedobear, another more-or-less innocent cartoon that got turned (more humorously) into something else.

Thank you!

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:17:49pm

Stop all this anti clown bigotry! #NotAllClowns

Pedestrian At Best - Courtney Barnett

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:18:52pm

re: #8 Scout

Forgive me, but I don’t get the final frame….

Pedo Bear is comforting Pepe.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:19:14pm
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ipsos  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:20:08pm

re: #13 gocart mozart

Clown of the Year!

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:21:10pm

On TCM just watched “A Face in the Crowd”

Summary

GUEST PROGRAMMERS: JONAH GOLDBERG & LEON WIESELTIER - 10/5
This month TCM welcomes two Guest Programmers—writer/editors Jonah Goldberg and Leon Wieseltier—who choose their films with an eye toward “Ideology in Movies.” Goldberg is a syndicated columnist who writes about politics and culture for National Review, where he is also a senior editor. Wieseltier is a scholar, critic and contributing editor to The Atlantic, and former literary editor of The New Republic.

In alternating segments with host Ben Mankiewicz, the pair presents four movies. Wieseltier, a staunch liberal, chooses Elia Kazan’s America America (1963), because it leads to a discussion of today’s “widespread vilification of immigrants.” His second pick is Fritz Lang’s Fury (1936), which Wieseltier links to the current “ascendancy of demagoguery in our politics.” Goldberg picks Kazan’s A Face in the Crowd (1957), noting that he comes “from a branch of conservatism that is nervous about excessive political enthusiasm”; and Frank Capra’s Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) in part because he considers its crusading hero to be “the first Tea-Partier.”

America America is starting now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:21:45pm

re: #13 gocart mozart

Stop all this anti clown bigotry! #NotAllClowns

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Everybody here seemed to find J. P. Patches creepy. That’s my childhood they’re talking about, but whatever….

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electrotek  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:22:42pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:23:33pm

re: #3 Jenner7

So sorry Jenner.

Hope the new flooring is fun!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:24:55pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

On TCM just watched “A Face in the Crowd”

Summary

America America is starting now.

Wow. The Doughy Pantload really is the Wrongway Corrigan of political commentary, isn’t he?

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:28:21pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:29:48pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:30:37pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Well, with the European banking system being kept alive by God knows what voodoo, the potential of a Trump Presidency, and the MOA announcing they’ll be closed on Turkey Day, all we need to round this out is for the Cubs to win the World Series.

THEN we know the Apocalypse is upon us. Anybody know where Steve Bartman is at these days? Asking for a friend.

/

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Scout  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:31:01pm

re: #22 gocart mozart

That is truly beautiful.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:32:07pm

re: #19 electrotek

Will Europe Stand Against Muslim Invasion?

Putrid fascists. In the last two days Italy, with problems of its own, sent naval forces to the Libyan coast to rescue 10,000 refugees. They’ve brought in more than 100,000 in all.

Fuck our nativist brethern.

thinkprogress.org

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:32:28pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:33:12pm

re: #2 Ziggy_TARDIS

The tweet it is attached to said that only 1% of houses remain standing.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:33:14pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:35:47pm

re: #28 Ziggy_TARDIS

The tweet it is attached to said that only 1% of houses remain standing.

Damn…

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Lidane  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:36:53pm

“Principled Libertarian” friend who went from supporting Gary Johnson to voting Trump is bleating about how patriotic it is to not overpay taxes and how what Trump did in avoiding almost a billion in taxes is right.

She is utterly incapable of understanding the difference between business taxes and personal income taxes, among other things, since she seems to think that whatever taxes Trump’s businesses pay come out of his pocket personally. ROFL.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:41:42pm

I am honestly surprised Donald Trump did not blame Bill Clinton for the “real estate recession” that forced him to declare -$916 million income to not pay taxes on.

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Lidane  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:42:24pm
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:42:43pm

re: #31 Lidane

I have a feeling that Trump is so driven by the need NOT to spend any of his personal money, that every part of his gilded private apartment interior was paid for out of the operating budgets of his resorts.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:42:48pm

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

I am honestly surprised Donald Trump did not blame Bill Clinton for the “real estate recession” that forced him to declare -$916 million income to not pay taxes on.

Make that private! Kellyanne is scouring the blogs for ideas.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:43:30pm

Can I call this guy deplorable?

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Lidane  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:43:34pm

re: #34 jaunte

I have a feeling that Trump is so driven by the need NOT to spend any of his personal money, that every part of his gilded private apartment interior was paid for out of the operating budgets of his resorts.

He’s such a con man it wouldn’t surprise me.

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electrotek  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:43:44pm

re: #31 Lidane

“Principled Libertarian” friend who went from supporting Gary Johnson to voting Trump is bleating about how patriotic it is to not overpay taxes and how what Trump did in avoiding almost a billion in taxes is right.

She is utterly incapable of understanding the difference between business taxes and personal income taxes, among other things, since she seems to think that whatever taxes Trump’s businesses pay come out of his pocket personally. ROFL.

Ask her how would we have won WW2 if we didn’t “overpay” our taxes?

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:44:32pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:44:41pm

Ick.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:45:09pm

re: #34 jaunte

I have a feeling that Trump is so driven by the need NOT to spend any of his personal money, that every part of his gilded private apartment interior was paid for out of the operating budgets of his resorts.

You’re assuming he has any personal money to begin with.

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freetoken  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:49:13pm

Latest satellite IR of Matthew:

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:50:45pm

re: #42 freetoken

Latest satellite IR of Matthew:

Image: GOES02302016280XOPWBX.jpg

Badass

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:51:10pm

re: #42 freetoken

It is recovering from it’s encounter with Cuba’s Mountains last night.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:51:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:53:18pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:54:19pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

I see he’s one of those Jefferson Staters from the Cali-Oregon border zone.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:54:37pm

re: #46 gocart mozart

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:54:55pm

Awww, looks like another alt-right baby is all sad because they won’t let him play on Twitter any more. Anybody know what Ricky did?
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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:55:18pm

re: #48 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I see he’s one of those Jefferson Staters from the Cali-Oregon border zone.

Yup, but random guy agreed.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2016 • 7:56:48pm

Please vote or the ice will break.

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stpaulbear  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:02:49pm

I got sidetracked this evening while looking around on YouTube. I found a get-together of a Marxist group (with Socialist Workers Party posters all over the walls) having a presentation and discussion about Dusty Springfield. It was actually fun to watch, but I’m also a big fan of Springfield. She was actually quite a ground-breaker in the 60’s.

Dusty Springfield, sex, art & the Sixties - Alan Gibbons

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:02:59pm

re: #13 gocart mozart

Great tune!!
The clown reminds me of John Wayne Gacy, the original clown murderer.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:03:50pm

Apparently, a friend or family Member of a commentor on Weather Underground has decided to stay in their residence in the Treasure Coast region.

How stupid could someone be to do that?

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whitebeach  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:04:57pm

re: #48 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I see he’s one of those Jefferson Staters from the Cali-Oregon border zone.

Beautiful country. OTOH:

The sun on the meadow is summery warm
The stag in the forest runs free
But gather together to greet the storm
Tomorrow belongs to me

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:05:13pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

We REALLY need to start moving away from using the word hysteria.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:07:41pm
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Lidane  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:08:44pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:09:24pm

Yes, cellular’s foul-mouthed CEO went there.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:09:27pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:11:41pm

re: #56 Ziggy_TARDIS

Apparently, a friend or family Member of a commentor on Weather Underground has decided to stay in their residence in the Treasure Coast region.

How stupid could someone be to do that?

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My parents, Palm Beach Gardens, Orlando (Orlando is OK except for wind & power loss) Myrtle Beach are not moving. Yet.

(Beach Dem, talked to my Dad, they didn’t even put up the storm shutters, hope you guys are not relaxing too much)

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:12:15pm

re: #58 Eric The Fruit Bat

We REALLY need to start moving away from using the word hysteria.

If anyone can, Stephen King can.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:13:06pm

re: #59 gocart mozart

Kayfabe.

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:14:39pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

On TCM just watched “A Face in the Crowd”

Summary

America America is starting now.

I didn’t turn it on till the middle (of the 11teenth time I’ve seen it) so when the doughy pantload came on the screen at the end, I nearly puked. Then when he started yapping about honor and integrity, I laughed out loud.

Still a great movie, and even scarier now than all the other times I’ve seen it. (Remember the “who said it” game at our Xmas party? Many Lonesome Rhodes/Trump questions.)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:15:23pm

Oopsie daisy.

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Lidane  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:15:33pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:15:59pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:16:25pm

Right wingers are jumping on the latest Hillary scandal bus: the girl asking a question at a campaign event is a child actress.

As usual, they’ve taken a teacup of evidence and turned into a reservoir of hate. Brennan Leach, 15, is what would be more truthfully termed an “aspiring actress.” She’s not listed in imdb.com, since she’s not had any movie or TV roles (yet), and her page at casting networks shows mostly local and small-scale production gigs.

cni.castingnetworks.com

So, yeah, you could call her an actress, but she’s also a 15-year-old high school student, and the comments she made about body shaming are still true, even if a film star had made them.

Now that Brennan has been outed as an actress, I predict her bankability just went up 200%. Time for her to make some casting calls in NYC and LA.

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Great White Snark  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:18:25pm

re: #69 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Really hope that works out. Nature can be a bitch.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:19:07pm

re: #66 BeachDem

I didn’t turn it on till the middle (of the 11teenth time I’ve seen it) so when the doughy pantload came on the screen at the end, I nearly puked. Then when he started yapping about honor and integrity, I laughed out loud.

Still a great movie, and even scarier now then all the other times I’ve seen it. (Remember the “who said it” game at our Xmas party? Many Lonesome Rhodes/Trump questions.)

YUP. I didn’t tune in till the middle either. Perfect timing.

The other guy though, put Doughy’s comments to shame. I’m having a hard time multi tasking with America America. It needs full on attention.

See my later comments about my Dad & MB

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:21:17pm

re: #69 Ziggy_TARDIS

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SteelPH  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:21:47pm

re: #70 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And yet these people go about bragging when Z-list celebrities endorse their nonsense.

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:22:01pm

re: #33 Lidane

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I don’t know about anyone else, but THIS Dem sure as hell doesn’t want us to be the party of Reagan.

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freetoken  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:23:31pm

re: #75 BeachDem

Here I will point out that in fact the Democratic Party was the party of Reagan, at one time.

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electrotek  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:23:35pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:24:19pm

FYI, Beach Dem threw the best political/Christmas party. (to be clear, the Lonesome Rhodes comment Y or N were excellent and on point, almost a year ago)

Didn’t give you the credit you deserve in my last reply.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:25:18pm

Someone’s feeling a bit left out…..

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:27:04pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:27:05pm

Well crap!
Oh well, Let’s Go Cubs…

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:27:12pm

Sniffle…….

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whitebeach  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:28:12pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

I don’t tweet, but if I did I’d like to post this photo along with something like, “Hey, I recognize this guy, he used to come into the club where I was bartending, right outside of Quantico. Him and a bunch of the other feebie cadets.”

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Timothy Watson  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:28:28pm

re: #82 Dave In Austin

Sniffle…….

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Email newsletter? ROFL, dude, where’s your AOL page at?

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Timothy Watson  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:30:07pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

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And, of course, he wants to secede from California or Oregon.

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:31:03pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

My parents, Palm Beach Gardens, Orlando (Orlando is OK except for wind & power loss) Myrtle Beach are not moving. Yet.

(Beach Dem, talked to my Dad, they didn’t even put up the storm shutters, hope you guys are not relaxing too much)

I don’t have storm shutters, so there’s that. They pulled the evac notice back a little—only zone A, which is beach to Bus. 17 (about 1/4 mile) at noon tomorrow. I’m in zone B, so no evac notice (I’m a little over 1/2 mile from the beach.) Latest I saw, if it touches down in SC, it’s going to be around Charleston and then veer east out to sea.

I hope we’re not too relaxed, but I think we’re about right and Nikki jumped early and has been backtracking ever since. Did you see the school closings—started today—pretty damn far inland.

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:31:05pm

So this happened….

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:31:56pm

re: #80 Ziggy_TARDIS

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:31:56pm

So painfull.

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Jay C  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:32:34pm

re: #85 Timothy Watson

And, of course, he wants to secede from California or Oregon.

Wasn’t “Jefferson” also the name of some other proposed State - by the usual gaggle of wingnuts - in Colorado or someplace?

It’s hard to tell your secessionist nuts without a program…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:32:43pm

re: #74 SteelPH

And yet these people go about bragging when Z-list celebrities endorse their nonsense.

If you google “clinton rally child actor,” all the hits point to RW websites, parroting the same BS from each other. One search summary had her name, and from there I could legitimate news sources reporting her question to Hillary.

The RWNJ slant is the girl is a “plant,” a child actor hired to ask a question to Hillary about Trump’s body shaming. The concept that the girl might sincerely have concerns or that Trump’s remarks about Alicia Machado might be troubling totally eludes them. It’s their usual “attack the messenger, ignore the message” BS.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:33:49pm

re: #82 Dave In Austin

We can only hope. They have their new platform to use, so they can stop whining.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:34:21pm

re: #86 BeachDem

I don’t have storm shutters, so there’s that. They pulled the evac notice back a little—only zone A, which is beach to Bus. 17 (about 1/4 mile) at noon tomorrow. I’m in zone B, so no evac notice (I’m a little over 1/2 mile from the beach.) Latest I saw, if it touches down in SC, it’s going to be around Charleston and then veer east out to sea.

I hope we’re not too relaxed, but I think we’re about right and Nikki jumped early and has been backtracking ever since. Did you see the school closings—started today—pretty damn far inland.

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Kids be happy, parents not so much.

Can you give me the link to the zones? I may follow up more than my Dad. Especially if he starts seeing Hillary commercials on the Weather Channel. (lol, sad)

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:34:56pm

re: #87 MsJ

So this happened….

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Fake imo

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:35:07pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

So painfull.

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Trump sucks at stand up comedy.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:35:47pm

re: #90 Jay C

Southwestern Oregon and northern California:
en.wikipedia.org

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:36:09pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

So painfull.

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The rubes cheered the scam man in front of their face.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:36:23pm

re: #90 Jay C

Wasn’t “Jefferson” also the name of some other proposed State - by the usual gaggle of wingnuts - in Colorado or someplace?

It’s hard to tell your secessionist nuts without a program…

California.

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SteelPH  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:36:32pm

re: #91 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Point taken.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:36:47pm

re: #82 Dave In Austin

Unless @Cernovich posts something truly vile, he’ll probably never face the wrath of the Twitter Gulag. But he’s just the kind of douchecanoe who would deliberately tweet something so vile that they would be forced to drop the banhammer.

C’est la vie. Earth to @Cernovich-Twitter isn’t a utility, you didn’t pay for it, you agreed to their TOS, and they bounce you that’s it. It’s called business.

(At least he’s not important enough to rate a Wikipedia entry-he’s got that going for him.).

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freetoken  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:37:46pm

No one ever wants to name their secessionist state “Arnold”.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:37:59pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:38:56pm

re: #102 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:40:40pm

re: #102 Ziggy_TARDIS

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And….when my Step Dad lost the patio during Charlie…one of the aluminum posts was inpaled into his tree.

Scary as fuck.

He was more pissed about replacing all the carpet.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:42:21pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:42:32pm

re: #90 Jay C

re: #96 jaunte

re: #98 Stanley Sea

Proposed Jefferson Territory & State from the Nebraska, Utah, Kansas & New Mexico Territories

And, a proposed division of eastern Texas

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prairiefire  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:42:56pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Drenched carpet sucks!

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:43:56pm

re: #70 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Right wingers are jumping on the latest Hillary scandal bus: the girl asking a question at a campaign event is a child actress.

As usual, they’ve taken a teacup of evidence and turned into a reservoir of hate. Brennan Leach, 15, is what would be more truthfully termed an “aspiring actress.” She’s not listed in imdb.com, since she’s not had any movie or TV roles (yet), and her page at casting networks shows mostly local and small-scale production gigs.

cni.castingnetworks.com

So, yeah, you could call her an actress, but she’s also a 15-year-old high school student, and the comments she made about body shaming are still true, even if a film star had made them.

Now that Brennan has been outed as an actress, I predict her bankability just went up 200%. Time for her to make some casting calls in NYC and LA.

So what does her being an actress have to do with anything? Isn’t she allowed to speak out about something that matters to her?
(Asking these questions of right wing assholes, not you.)

Tell her to call Madison Kimrey—she’ll help her kick some ass.
Madison’s been an activist since she was 12—has a wiki page, and has received lots of national attention. Now she’s 14, still speaking out, and will go toe to toe with any right wing asshole (and has, with McCrory and others.)

‘I Am Not A Prop, Neither Is My Vagina’ - Madison Kimrey Speaks Out

samuel-warde.com

(Not sure if this is directly applicable, but I love posting Madison stuff!)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:44:04pm

re: #103 Stanley Sea

re: #104 Stanley Sea

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:45:45pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

‘Jefferson Territory’ looks a lot like Colorado.

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electrotek  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:47:08pm

We won’t see the usual suspects express outrage over this:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:47:46pm

re: #105 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know my food photography isn’t up to the new level. Gonna have to step up my game to hang around here now.

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allegro  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:49:44pm

re: #112 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know my food photography isn’t up to the new level. Gonna have to step up my game to hang around here now.

My grumbling tummy and drooling do not agree.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:50:16pm
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MsJ  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:50:50pm

re: #112 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know my food photography isn’t up to the new level. Gonna have to step up my game to hang around here now.

Looks pretty darned good to me! I was going to ask how you made the chicken.

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:50:52pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

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Charlie is the only one that’s been of much notice since I’ve lived here—remember my niece was visiting and we lost power, so we sat on the kitchen floor (in the middle of the condo—not near windows) drank beer and played scrabble by candlelight.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:51:30pm
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Great White Snark  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:52:40pm

re: #112 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know my food photography isn’t up to the new level. Gonna have to step up my game to hang around here now.

Looks like you got it just fine.

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prairiefire  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:53:29pm

re: #107 prairiefire

Drenched carpet sucks!

I’ll drown carrying my volumes above my head, eventually.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:53:58pm

re: #115 MsJ

Looks pretty darned good to me! I was going to ask how you made the chicken.

I started with this recipe but did chopped gouda (one slice) and black forest ham (one slice) with a tablespoon+ of whole grain dijon. Two large chicken breasts (over a pound for the pair) and tossed a little bit of Old Bay garlic and herb in to the breadcrumbs (panko style). Also did a whole egg as I couldn’t be bothered to separate the yolk.

I cooked for probably more like 30 minutes (because of the bigger breasts) and maybe should have done a touch under, but they came out great anyway. (As an aside, does anyone have any idea where I could get chicken breasts that are NOT half a pound each?)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:55:45pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

It was another example of Trump’s stream of consciousness style of speaking, and his fans’ adoration of anything he says. He could have said Nevada is pronounced “luxury yacht,” and they still would have cheered.

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prairiefire  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:56:59pm

I used to speak about the dystopian future as a basic lesson, not the present, by any means. What a surprise!

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:57:22pm

Creepy clown rumors hit Milwaukee-area schools

On Tuesday, Shana Sykes kept her son home from school at Universal Academy for the College Bound in Milwaukee — not because he was sick, but because Sykes had heard too many rumors about people in clown masks prowling around outside the school and scaring children.

In West Bend, a call to police from the father of a Badger Middle School student, alarmed about a message the student received from a self-identified clown, led to a 12-year-old girl being taken into custody.

Fueled by social media, rumors and prank calls, reports of people dressed as creepy clowns with supposedly malevolent intentions have caused some Milwaukee-area police and school districts to respond to parents and citizens this week. So far, police say no reports from the Milwaukee area have been substantiated.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:58:01pm

re: #107 prairiefire

Drenched carpet sucks!

He HATED to spend the $ required for replacement. His son made him. “Dad, we’re not coming back down to that gross shit”

Old guys & $

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:58:17pm

re: #107 prairiefire

Drenched carpet sucks!

And hey Prairie!!!!!!!!!!

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:58:34pm

re: #93 Stanley Sea

Kids be happy, parents not so much.

Can you give me the link to the zones? I may follow up more than my Dad. Especially if he starts seeing Hillary commercials on the Weather Channel. (lol, sad)

This link has everything the city sent out in their email—the hurricane guide shows the maps, the evac routes etc. The Know Your Zone link wouldn’t work right for me, but the map in the guide is pretty clear.

scemd.org

And this station has the best weatherman, Ed Piotrowski

wpde.com

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prairiefire  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:59:05pm

re: #124 Stanley Sea

Black mold can kill you in 4 months, easy.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:59:07pm

re: #109 Ziggy_TARDIS

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YUP

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RinaX  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:59:23pm

Well, they put Jacksonville under a hurricane warning. We’re so used to these things zooming past us without much incident that I think most of us are just plain unable to comprehend what is happening. Lots of black humor and shrugging.

I did go and get a bunch of supplies today when it was still just a watch, and now have to contemplate putting up plywood and whatnot. Tonight, though, I continue with Luke Cage.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 5, 2016 • 8:59:27pm

Milwaukee man exonerated by DNA after 24 years in prison

A 48-year-old Milwaukee man exonerated by DNA evidence in a sexual assault case was released from prison on Wednesday after serving 24 years for a crime he did not commit.

Daryl Dwayne Holloway left Green Bay Correctional Institution one day after Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Jeffrey Wagner signed the order over turning the conviction and freeing him. Wagner had presided over the wrongful conviction in 1993.

The decision came after prosecutors in the Milwaukee County district attorney’s office agreed that DNA results showed Holloway’s conviction in the 1992 case should be reversed, according to a news release from the Wisconsin Innocence Project.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:00:00pm

re: #120 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also I was gonna be all like LOOK I MADE SOMETHING BEACHDEM CAN EAT and then I remembered the garlic and herb Old Bay.

And the pesto probably has garlic too but I just used some from a jar because I was lazy.

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prairiefire  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:00:13pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

Are you with her?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:00:27pm

re: #116 BeachDem

Charlie is the only one that’s been of much notice since I’ve lived here—remember my niece was visiting and we lost power, so we sat on the kitchen floor (in the middle of the condo—not near windows) drank beer and played scrabble by candlelight.

There are definitely good stories about hurricane parties.

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electrotek  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:01:07pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:01:46pm

re: #121 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It was another example of Trump’s stream of consciousness style of speaking, and his fans’ adoration of anything he says. He could have said Nevada is pronounced “luxury yacht,” and they still would have cheered.

You can hear a bunch of people in the crowd yelling “NO,” but he’s just so oblivious. I’d almost feel bad for them if they weren’t Trump supporters, he gave them the “your name is REEK now” treatment and they eventually acquiesced.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:01:53pm

re: #133 Stanley Sea

Fun fact, Hurricanes will often cause local baby booms. Sandy’s was unusually large.

Katrina was the only Hurricane, along with possibly Andrew, to have not produced a baby boom.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:02:33pm

re: #126 BeachDem

Thank you!

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:04:22pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:06:14pm

re: #132 prairiefire

Baby Doll, are you with her?

I have a Kermit icon on the Twitter.

Been donating weekly, just purchased the magnet I’m With Her.

I’m going to fuck up the freak GOP world here when I put it on my car.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:06:54pm

Widening race? National Republicans, Democrats cancel U.S. Senate ads in Wisconsin

U.S. Senate Republican and Democratic campaign groups said Monday they’re axing hundreds of thousands of dollars in planned advertising in Wisconsin — a sign the race between GOP Sen. Ron Johnson and Democrat Russ Feingold may be slipping down the national list of Senate contests viewed as competitive.

The political arm of U.S. Senate Republicans said it’s canceling upcoming TV ad reservations that would have helped Johnson, R-Oshkosh.

And the group’s Democratic counterpart said it would cancel a second week of TV ads in Wisconsin that would have aided Feingold, D-Middleton, during mid-October. That comes after the committee announced last week that it would cancel the first week of its Badger State ad blitz — which it billed as a show of confidence in Feingold’s standing.

Be nice to see Ron Johnson gone.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:08:22pm

re: #136 Ziggy_TARDIS

Fun fact, Hurricanes will often cause local baby booms. Sandy’s was unusually large.

Katrina was the only Hurricane, along with possibly Andrew, to have not produced a baby boom.

Because they were scared as shit. Correctly.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:09:13pm

*Shudder*
Charlie Sykes: ‘Absolutely no truth’ to suggestion he’d challenge Tammy Baldwin for U.S. Senate

When Wisconsin conservative radio host Charlie Sykes made the surprise announcement this week that he would depart his radio show at year’s end, theories sprung up on why and what’s next for him.

Sykes batted away one of them Wednesday: that he’s mulling a challenge to Democratic U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin in 2018.

This week Robert Kraig — in a post to the website of the liberal group he directs, Citizen Action of Wisconsin — floated the prospect of a Sykes Senate run as “the hot rumor in Republican political circles.” Kraig is not the only person to share that suggestion with Wisconsin political reporters in recent weeks.

Baldwin’s first U.S. Senate term is up in two years, and there likely will be plenty of Republicans vying to challenge her.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:09:30pm

Burroughs warned us…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:12:32pm

re: #127 prairiefire

Black mold can kill you in 4 months, easy.

Hotel Impossible has had several episodes where the interior design crew has uncovered black mold, and had to call in specialists to treat and seal the affected areas. Wet carpet not only stinks forever, but practically yells, “Hey black mold, over here!!”

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:14:29pm

New video from Umphrey’s McGee, from their Red Rocks shows this summer (I’m in the audience somewhere):

Umphrey’s McGee: “Make It Right” 07/03/16

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:14:57pm

re: #120 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I started with this recipe but did chopped gouda (one slice) and black forest ham (one slice) with a tablespoon+ of whole grain dijon. Two large chicken breasts (over a pound for the pair) and tossed a little bit of Old Bay garlic and herb in to the breadcrumbs (panko style). Also did a whole egg as I couldn’t be bothered to separate the yolk.

I cooked for probably more like 30 minutes (because of the bigger breasts) and maybe should have done a touch under, but they came out great anyway. (As an aside, does anyone have any idea where I could get chicken breasts that are NOT half a pound each?)

Yum! I just happen to have all that stuff in the house! Guess what I’m making tomorrow night? Thanks!

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:15:06pm

My Episcopalian diocese has been running a program in Haiti for some time now in a small place called Jeanette. We are just receiving word that they have been hit hard by hurricane Matthew. At least 50 houses were destroyed with the families now sheltering in the church. Apparently all of the gardens have been destroyed as well leaving then without that food.

If you are looking for a a way to help desperate people rebuild their lives, these are people who deserve your consideration.

More information can be found at the project website. haitiproject.org

Thank you for reading this.

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:15:51pm

re: #96 jaunte

Southwestern Oregon and northern California:
en.wikipedia.org

I have many clients in that part of CA—sparsely populated (lots of Reservation land), terrible transit (some routes only run 2-3 times a week.) Some nice people and a lot of loonies. Good luck to them surviving on their own without services and assistance from the rest of the state.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:16:08pm

re: #146 MsJ

Yum! I just happen to have all that stuff in the house! Guess what I’m making tomorrow night? Thanks!

It met the mr klys seal of approval, complete with the endorsement that he would eat it again as is.

Rare for the first iteration of a recipe.

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whitebeach  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:16:28pm

re: #133 Stanley Sea

There are definitely good stories about hurricane parties.

And some extremely bad ones, too.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:18:41pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

Katrina showed the absolute limit that the US can deal with in terms of a disaster.

By the end of September 2005, 46 out of the 50 states were under a state of emergency after Katrina as a result of the evacuees and refugees overloading social & emergency services.

Only Hawaii, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming did not fall into a State of Emergency. The closest the US has ever come to nationwide state of emergency was Hurricane Katrina. To be fair, most other countries would have been broken by a Katrina-scale event.

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whitebeach  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:18:58pm

re: #136 Ziggy_TARDIS

Fun fact, Hurricanes will often cause local baby booms. Sandy’s was unusually large.

Katrina was the only Hurricane, along with possibly Andrew, to have not produced a baby boom.

Try Camille. Also Audrey.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:23:03pm

Over & out!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:23:53pm

Oh, this should prove to be fun reading: three of Trump’s bankruptcy filings are now online.

buzzfeed.com

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:24:19pm

re: #151 Ziggy_TARDIS

It should be noted that thousands of IDPs would become refugees, and be transported to Canada.

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:30:05pm

re: #131 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also I was gonna be all like LOOK I MADE SOMETHING BEACHDEM CAN EAT and then I remembered the garlic and herb Old Bay.

And the pesto probably has garlic too but I just used some from a jar because I was lazy.

That is so funny—I got about 3/4 of the way through the description thinking hmm, no gar—oops, there it is.

Which is all moot anyway, because I don’t eat chicken.

But I still think we could be friends, honest!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:30:17pm

re: #144 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:32:50pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Don’t forget, your girl Lindsey is supposed to be on Colbert tonight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:34:00pm

re: #155 Ziggy_TARDIS

I am guessing the DP means displaced persons but what about the I?

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Ubiq  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:36:38pm
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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:37:30pm

re: #139 Stanley Sea

I have a Kermit icon on the Twitter.

Been donating weekly, just purchased the magnet I’m With Her.

I’m going to fuck up the freak GOP world here when I put it on my car.

I’m kinda glad my Trump-loving, Alex Jones-loving, bodybuilding loudmouth neighbor who, although in “perfect physical shape—just ask him” would leave his bags of trash out in front of his condo for days on end because it was such a long walk to the dumpster, has moved out.

He hooked up with the soon-to-be-ex wife of another neighbor and they rode off into the sunset. Now I don’t have to duck inside when I see him in the parking lot to avoid listening to him rant that “there’s a video you should watch that will make it all clear” directing me to Prison Planet. Sigh.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:39:09pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

Internally Displaced Persons.

The US, for a period in 2005, became one of the top 5 nations in terms of number of Internally Displaced persons, with well over 1 million displaced.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:45:56pm

re: #105 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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That looks so delicious!

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:46:29pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:47:42pm

Shit.

Matthew’s Pressure has fallen from 959mb to 952 mb in the space of about 2 hours.

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:50:12pm

re: #166 Ziggy_TARDIS

Hurricane Wilma in 2005 got down to 882 mb, the lowest atmospheric pressure ever recorded in the scientific age.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:52:26pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:56:42pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

I remember that.

Patricia bumped her off to become the strongest storm ever recorded in the Western Hemisphere, but Wilma still holds the Atlantic record.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:57:25pm
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prairiefire  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:57:33pm

re: #53 gocart mozart

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IT’S A HOAX!

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:58:39pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Go, Hermione!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 5, 2016 • 9:59:38pm

re: #172 retired cynic

Yeah, that story just makes me like her more.

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allegro  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:03:19pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Trump version: Hillary has always had bad judgment who doesn’t know how to hire good people. Who puts a young boy in charge of bunnies? Boys can’t be trusted, let me tell you. I KNOW! I’m the only one who can keep your bunnies safe! Buhlieve me!

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:04:04pm

re: #168 FormerDirtDart

You all good with Matt?

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:06:09pm

re: #169 Ziggy_TARDIS

I remember Patricia as well. She went from fuckin’ ferocious to just some closed low in just a couple of days. And Mexico’s residents and government prepared well, the mortality rate during that storm was very low.

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:07:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:09:30pm

re: #162 Ziggy_TARDIS

Internally Displaced Persons.

The US, for a period in 2005, became one of the top 5 nations in terms of number of Internally Displaced persons, with well over 1 million displaced.

Oh you don’t need to remind me, I ended up marrying one. :P

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:11:17pm

He has a plan!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:11:51pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

You all good with Matt?

Yeah, just planning on riding it out for now. Frankly, I’m really curious about how high the St. Johns will rise outside my window

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:13:00pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:15:13pm

re: #180 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, just planning on riding it out for now. Frankly, I’m really curious about how high the St. Johns will rise outside my window

I’m reading possible big storm surge (as high as a big man).

Take care, dude. Get back to us.

:)

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:15:29pm
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whitebeach  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:17:03pm

re: #151 Ziggy_TARDIS

Katrina showed the absolute limit that the US can deal with in terms of a disaster.

By the end of September 2005, 46 out of the 50 states were under a state of emergency after Katrina as a result of the evacuees and refugees overloading social & emergency services.

Only Hawaii, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming did not fall into a State of Emergency. The closest the US has ever come to nationwide state of emergency was Hurricane Katrina. To be fair, most other countries would have been broken by a Katrina-scale event.

Stop with the hyperbole. While there may have been widespread declarations of “states of emergency,” the fact is that outside of south Louisiana and the Mississippi coast, life went on in the rest of the states pretty much as before. I was in the city most affected by the refugee stream, Baton Rouge, which grew in population by more than 50 percent overnight, and many of those refugees were there for months. We made it just fine, even though we had another hurricane to deal with five weeks later, and we probably could have handled even more.

The US has managed to get through other city-destroying events, for example the San Francisco earthquake of 1906 and the Galveston hurricane of 1900, not to mention the far greater catastrophe of the Civil War. As for the “most other countries” that would have been “broken by a Katrina-scale event,” there have been far more deadly and damaging natural disasters in many parts of the world, such as the Indian Ocean tsunami, floods in China, earthquakes in Iran and many other places, cyclones all across the Pacific and in Bangladesh, and those countries survive.

Natural and manmade disasters are bad enough without this strange need to magnify them to something on the edge of apocalypse.

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:17:24pm

OK, be back in a bit, watching Lindsey Vonn on the teevee. She just put out a book.

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:17:50pm

re: #179 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:23:09pm
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Cheechako  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:29:13pm

re: #187 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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I thought he was known as Sean “Lumpy” Hannity.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:29:34pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

Because they were scared as shit. Correctly.

Something about being in your attic, in the dark, whaling away with an axe, desperately watching the water rise up over your waist, really kills libido.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:29:51pm

I’m perusing some of the bankruptcy documents BuzzFeed has shared online. Reading the financials for the Trump Plaza hotel/casino in Atlantic City, it looks like for 1991 income was about $379M while expenses were about $300M, but interest payments on loans were putting the operation into the red. As the same time, Trump had two other casino hotels operating in AC, so they were essentially competing against each other, a pretty hair-brained move in my book.

I am not a casino operator or a hotelier, but a casino making only $79M over its expenses is pretty much already a failure.

[Disregard those figures. I found a financial summary that may be more accurate. See later comment below.]

Keep in mind that Atlantic City was nowhere near as famous as Vegas for gambling, and had few other attractions to pull people in. For one operator to put up three casinos in one small city was so insane that I wonder who on the casino commission had to be bribed to approve all those licenses.

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:29:51pm

Oh Linds …

Last thing she said during her sit-down with Colbert:

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:30:27pm
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Kragar  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:37:15pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:38:48pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

Thanks BeachDem for reminding me about Lindsey Vonn on the teevee. She looked absolutely stunning in her black pumps, standing taller than the host.

And they talked about skiing! And she says she’s gone 90 m.p.h. on a race course. This is true, but she’s only at that speed for a second or two before they slow down on a downhill course. On average, a downhill racer goes 65 to 70 m.p.h., depending on the course. A lot of times it’s slower, in the sub-60 m.p.h. range on average.

Still though, Lindsey ain’t lyin’ when she says she’s gone 90 m.p.h. on skis.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:56:13pm

re: #190 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I found a summary of the Plaza financials that may be more accurate than the numbers I found earlier, from this set of docs

In 1991 there were 12 casinos operating in Atlantic City, and three were Trump’s. So, the Plaza had a lot of competition. Perhaps a wiser businessman would have opened just one casino and developed others over time, but Trump seems to favor grandiose projects built with other people’s money.

Here’s a snip of the summary for 1990 and 1991.

The Plaza lost almost $11M in 1990 and was more than $8M in the hole at the end of the third quarter 1991.

Looking over some of the supporting documents, Trump Plaza also owed a hell of a lot of contractors, suppliers, staff and people who had filed liability claims. One ad agency was owed more than $150K.

And this is just one of the three casinos in bankruptcy proceedings. o_0

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 5, 2016 • 10:59:22pm

SEE…Trump is a GENIUS…he hires The Best People™…

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 11:00:07pm

re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I AM A BRILLIANT BUSINESSMAN WHO CAN MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2016 • 11:02:48pm

I’m sure many of us here can share my sentiments about this election, FUCKING UNREAL. Stupefying.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 11:06:31pm

re: #197 teleskiguy

I AM A BRILLIANT BUSINESSMAN WHO CAN MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

My seat-of-the-pants, non-expert hunch is Trump half expected the casinos to fail, and had an exit strategy already in place even before the groundbreaking. He was going to set it up so other people would pay the price of business failure, while he skated away virtually scot free.

Imagine that model applied to administering an entire nation.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 11:30:32pm

More social media fail from the Trumpistas:

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 11:40:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2016 • 11:42:11pm

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

More social media fail from the Trumpistas:

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What’s weird is how the Trump supporters who are doing this think it substitutes for actual outreach and non-bigoted policies.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 5, 2016 • 11:50:21pm

Silicon Valley venture capitalist says Trump doesn’t have as much money as he says he has. “We know the money he did get he didn’t get through any means you would be proud to tell your kids and your grandkids you made your money,” Chris Sacca told CNBC’s Jim Cramer.

Iframe

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:30:48am
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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:37:41am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:50:03am
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:55:17am

The Port Nassau Webcam is starting to get interesting. Turn your speakers down in case it starts with sound. The wind in the microphone is loud.

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bratwurst  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:57:13am

Some good news to report this morning from Madrid’s sprawling airport: I should be able to get home to Chicagoland on Thursday night despite my original connection through Miami being cancelled. The price to pay is sitting in a coach middle seat from Dallas to Chicago despite this being a business class itinerary (booked with points, of course). If I am able to get home close to the originally scheduled time after having gotten the shocking “your flight is cancelled and we can’t rebook you” message from American Airlines last night, I will be a very happy guy.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 6, 2016 • 1:01:56am

Makes a nice radar signature now.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 6, 2016 • 1:17:13am

20 miles from the eyewall the winds are 102 MPH with gusts to 124, judging by Wunderground stations in the islands.

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Donkey With No Name  Oct 6, 2016 • 2:19:13am

re: #208 bratwurst

Ah, so your flight is probably the reason business class on the Philadelphia flight suddenly went full overnight…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 2:50:15am

Young conservative pleads with other conservatives to vote for Hillary Clinton. We here know the arguments already, but his essay puts them all in one neat package for others to read.

extranewsfeed.com

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Scout  Oct 6, 2016 • 2:57:55am

I don’t know, maybe this Hannity twitter spat with Megyn Kelly is on the level, but I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if they cooked it up just to get some attention.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2016 • 3:31:34am

re: #213 Scout

I don’t know, maybe this Hannity twitter spat with Megyn Kelly is on the level, but I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if they cooked it up just to get some attention.

Just Hannity being a whiny diaper baby…..
gq.com

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Dr. Matt  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:06:54am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:24:28am

MoveOn video from Robert Reich, the guy I would appoint President if I were appointing presidents. (It does include a MoveOn begging .txt graphic.)

“Here’s a message for everyone who cares about this nation and its people: Complacency is not an option…We have a sacred responsibility to do everything we can to make sure Donald Trump loses on Election Day—and loses big.”

Complacency is Not an Option

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:29:10am

You realize that even if Trump loses big, the argument will be “It could’t have really been that big a margin!!! Fraud!!! Intimidation!!! Tampering!!!!”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:38:28am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You realize that even if Trump loses big, the argument will be “It could’t have really been that big a margin!!! Fraud!!! Intimidation!!! Tampering!!!!”

That’s why we need to crush him, see him driven before us, and hear the lamentations of his women.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:39:26am

So, that ICE endorsement donald is bragging about is actually the union, not the agency itself.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:40:58am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, that ICE endorsement donald is bragging about is actually the union, not the agency itself.

Hatch Act makes actual agency interference a go-to-jail violation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:41:24am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, that ICE endorsement donald is bragging about is actually the union, not the agency itself.

So Trump is a union-backed man?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:41:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:43:03am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Hatch Act makes actual agency interference a go-to-jail violation.

indeed, but donald chooses to mislead about that detail.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:43:28am
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Alyosha  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:43:31am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So Trump is a union-backed man?

Ask Jimmy Hoffa! He’ll tell you!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:45:23am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember once sarcastically proposing that we build the wall out of nuclear waste so that we need only use a Geiger counter to detect illegals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:47:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:49:37am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:49:58am

The President’s approval rating is at 55%. Highest of his second term.
I suspect a major factor is that Faux Noise isn’t broadcasting negative pieces about him 24-7…

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:52:04am

you really want to go with “the only reason all those republican leaning newspapers are endorsing clinton is because we nominated someone so horribly unfit”?

just musing while waiting for the rain. any minute now

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:52:45am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

Complete argle-bargle. Trump doesn’t know, doesn’t care, and will forget what he said within 10 minutes of leaving that interview.

Sopan Deb has another part of the interview where Trump says the Chinese expansion into the South China Sea will help tourism in Nevada.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:56:17am

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My seat-of-the-pants, non-expert hunch is Trump half expected the casinos to fail, and had an exit strategy already in place even before the groundbreaking. He was going to set it up so other people would pay the price of business failure, while he skated away virtually scot free.

Imagine that model applied to administering an entire nation.

after he milked out all the cash in “administration fees”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:58:37am

“Trust me to repeal all the tax legislation that I have profited from!”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 4:58:47am

re: #232 dangerman

after he milked out all the cash in “administration fees”

Trump is predatory, putting it simply.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:00:18am

re: #234 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump is predatory, putting it simply.

but legally predatory…that makes him a “shrewd businessman” fulfilling his “fiduciary duty”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:01:46am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but legally predatory…that makes him a “shrewd businessman” fulfilling his “fiduciary duty”

He would have invented sub-prime lending if someone hadn’t beaten him to it.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:02:36am

electoral-vote.com

compare the graph

Electoral College 2016 Including States Where the Candidates are Statistically Tied

and then 2 graphs down the 2012

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:03:32am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember once sarcastically proposing that we build the wall out of nuclear waste so that we need only use a Geiger counter to detect illegals.

There is precedent:

orau.org

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:04:30am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Rail service is still fubar in and out of Hoboken due to that train crash last week. Dont’ think it’ll have service restored for another week at least. There’s no reports indicating even a timeline for restoration of service, which is troubling to say the least.

They haven’t removed the locomotive yet and they’ve managed to erect a wood screen around the affected track area, but the station is still closed. That means all those who relied on that train are having to find alternative means to get to work - and extra travel delays. We’re talking 50k people using the station daily.

Anyhow, it still looks like Pence and Trump can’t tell the truth, or reality.

That should help describe the phenomenon.

Trump’s response on Yucca Mt. was not only atrocious, but emblematic of every Trump pronouncement. Blustering BS that says nothing. He doesn’t care. Only thing he cares about is his taxes - and cutting them as much as possible. Details like where and how to store the nation’s nuclear waste, which was supposed to be at Yucca Mt. simply don’t enter the conversation.

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Alyosha  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:08:36am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

Holy shit!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:09:16am

re: #240 Alyosha

Holy shit!

It was discovered only by the dumbest of luck.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:09:45am

how utterly odd - also from electoral-vote.com

Across these 13 commentators, the tally ends up like this:

Pence: 12 wins, 0 losses
Biden: 1 win, 0 losses
Trump: 0 wins, 4 losses
Quijano: 0 wins, 5 losses
Kaine: 0 wins, 10 losses

It’s a clear win for Pence, though most commentators took care to note that his victory was “by a nose” or “on style points.” There also a near-universal consensus that, beyond righting the S.S. Trump in the short term, the debate will have no meaningful impact on the 2016 race.

while next noting

There was extensive coverage on Wednesday of his willingness to treat the truth like a pretzel. Slate put together a montage of debate clips entitled “Watch Mike Pence Lie to You.” HuffPo, WaPo, TPM, and Politico all put together lists of the things that Donald Trump has said that Pence insisted Trump never said. The fact checkers, including CNN, ABC News, NPR, the New York Times, Politifact, FactCheck, and USA Today were all very critical. They hit him particularly hard for his misrepresentations about the Clinton Foundation, Obamacare, and America’s military readiness

because “style and demeanor” are way more important than truth

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:11:35am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

There is precedent:

orau.org

I remember that…we were making “Andalé, a rebar!” jokes for weeks…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:17:52am

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Complete argle-bargle. Trump doesn’t know, doesn’t care, and will forget what he said within 10 minutes of leaving that interview.

Sopan Deb has another part of the interview where Trump says the Chinese expansion into the South China Sea will help tourism in Nevada.

this one?

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:19:24am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

So much for Made in America steel.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:36:11am

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

Hillary was a beautiful child. Love that photo. Looking forward to November 8th!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:36:47am

re: #84 Timothy Watson

Email newsletter? ROFL, dude, where’s your AOL page at?

I like your ideas, where do I subscribe to your newsletter?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:37:27am

re: #245 Emptor scriptor Remorse

So much for Made in America steel.

And that was in the 80s. Pittsburgh was already transitioning to the new economy.

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Alyosha  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:37:49am

Bound to be promoted by the boss, but here’s an early peek at Olbermann’s latest.
It’s a thing of beauty. The way he frames his outrage in the last couple of minutes is especially exquisite.

We have had enough.

Trump Voters Are Angry? Here’s What’s Worthy of Anger | The Closer with Keith Olbermann | GQ

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:48:30am

Bigots-in-suits acting more like their blue-collar brethren:

UKIP’s Steven Woolfe in hospital ‘after altercation’

UKIP leadership hopeful Steven Woolfe was taken to hospital following an altercation at a meeting of party MEPs, interim leader Nigel Farage has said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:48:40am
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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:49:14am

Attn Florida, SC, and GA lizards. If you’re near the coast, prep your homes and head inland. Matthew is no joke, and it looks like it’s going to skim the coast all the way from around Fort Lauderdale all the way up to the Carolinas before heading out to sea. That means millions of people and several hundred miles of coast are going to get hit with the strongest winds they’ve seen in years (decades).

The storm has caused widespread devastation in Haiti, and is roaring through the Caribbean on its way to intensifying once again before hitting Florida and the Eastern Seaboard.

Stay safe. Be smart - and get to higher ground inland before the storm hits. You can always rebuild and fix stuff. You can’t be replaced.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:54:04am

re: #252 lawhawk

As far as we are from the E Coast, our paper says local hotels are filling with evacuees. If any Lizards can’t find quarters within 6 hours drive of JAX, give me a private message. We have capacity for a family of 4 if they don’t mind piling in.

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Jayleia  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:54:37am
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jeffreyw  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:55:45am

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Good morning!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:57:26am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

this one?

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That’s the one. Just as incoherent as the Yucca Mountain segment.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 5:59:55am

I saw an orange ball in the sky, and I took some photos of it.

Instagram

I zoomed into the sun and found two sunspot clusters. I marked with the same labels as solarham.net has. Same camera settings as before. It was a hazy afternoon, so the image is not especially sharp.

Technical details: Nikon D3300 Tamron 70-300mm zoom f/11 1/160th sec ISO400

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:00:35am

Do not under any circumstances go to Chuck E. Cheese’s:

Massive fight at Florida Chuck E. Cheese’s caught on video

[…]

Krystel Jimenez, a 16-year-old who filmed the 10-minute melee at the Kendall Village Center franchise, told the Miami Herald that the fight started “because one person was looking at them and instigating a problem then they went up to them and their families got involved.”

Her 28-second video clip shows a violent throng of screaming parents throwing punches and pulling hair as small children scramble for safety.

[…]

The Miami brawl was preceded by a massive fight at a Chuck E. Cheese’s just outside Pittsburgh in March that began with an argument between the parents of a 1-year-old and grew to include as many as 50 people, according to CBS affiliate KDKA.

A month earlier in Manchester, Conn., another fight broke out that spoiled five children’s birthday parties and resulted in a 1-year-old being knocked down, a 4-year-old being bruised and a senior citizen experiencing a panic attack, police told the New York Daily News.

[…]

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Poligeek  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:01:35am

Well, I’m in Port Saint Lucie, and the GFS Hurricane model essentially puts the eye right around / just to the North of us, so today ——> through the weekend should be all sorts of fun. Gotta love being a Floridian :-/

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:01:54am
Kaine vs. Pence: When Midwestern Nice meets Midwestern Lies

Americans are not used to a calm liar. We are used to lies being screamed, chanted, or told as a “joke” - lies wrapped in the bravado and bluster of Mr. Trump. We are not accustomed to lies uttered calmly by a purported man of faith, who appeared to reconcile his role in the vicious Trump campaign by pretending it never happened. Mr. Pence spoke favourably of a Mr. Trump that does not resemble Mr. Trump - a fantasy candidate who never said what Mr. Trump said, or did what Mr. Trump did.

In the end, when pressed on Mr. Trump’s proclaimed desire to punish women who have had abortions, Mr. Pence finally cracked, admitting that Mr.Trump had said this but chalking it up to him being “unpolished.” Mr. Pence is a pro-life extremist who once tried to get a law passed forcing women who miscarried to have funerals for fetuses. (The law was blocked by a federal judge.)

Mr. Pence likely had no objection to the content of Mr. Trump’s statement, but he knows how to cloak brutal policies in Midwestern Nice - a skill his running mate lacks. In that brief moment, Mr. Pence seemed resigned to Mr. Trump’s crudeness and cruelty.

It is hard to say who “won” the debate. Mr. Kaine stammered and interrupted, but remained essentially honest. Mr. Pence lied calmly and well.

I wonder if Mike Pence would like some fava beans and a nice chianti.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:02:13am

Here’s another shot with more landscape. Very little processing. Having a filter handy would have helped this shot a lot, I think.

Instagram

A hazy sun sets behind the hills near Jishou University, Hunan, China. Taken with Nikon D3300 Tamron 70-300mm lens f/11 1/160 sec ISO400

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Le Lapin Tueur  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:05:07am

re: #258 freetoken

Do not under any circumstances go to Chuck E. Cheese’s Florida

….
half / ?

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:09:12am

re: #262 Le Lapin Tueur

Well… maybe… but the story included reports from other states too.

Chuck E. Cheese’s is just not a place humans ought to visit.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:11:00am

I didn’t read the entire story, just saw it was Miami and watched the brawl…

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Great White Snark  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:18:07am

re: #240 Alyosha

Holy shit!

Around ‘81… There was radioactive gold that got into the jewelry making stream. Refiners were buying or borrowing detectors for years. The gold could be refined to four or even six nines pure. And still be radioactive.

news.google.com

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:27:25am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I would shoot them down,” says @LindseyGrahamSC of Russian warplanes bombing Syrian groups supported by the US.

Remember folks, he’s a “moderate”.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:27:46am

re: #259 Poligeek

Well, I’m in Port Saint Lucie, and the GFS Hurricane model essentially puts the eye right around / just to the North of us, so today ——> through the weekend should be all sorts of fun. Gotta love being a Floridian :-/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:28:45am

re: #265 Great White Snark

Around ‘81… There was radioactive gold that got into the jewelry making stream. Refiners were buying or borrowing detectors for years. The gold could be refined to four or even six nines pure. And still be radioactive.

news.google.com

Interesting. I discovered that gold has only one naturally occurring isotope, which is not radioactive. So whatever other metals were mixed in with it must have been the radioactive source.

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darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:30:22am
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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:32:54am

re: #263 freetoken

Well… maybe… but the story included reports from other states too.

Chuck E. Cheese’s is just not a place humans ought to visit.

I have been to Chuck E. Cheese once, and that was more than enough. Some friends had a party there for their 4 year old twin boys. Swarms of screaming children and loud mouthed adults, and an over-amplified animatronic animal band with a cymbal clashing monkey added up to a din seldom heard this side of hell. The food resembled my daughter’s first effort at a grilled cheese (when she was 6). There were mounds of trash on the floor, and more than a little flying around the room. If I had been a child I would have been terrified.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:34:59am

Morning!

I’m still going through one of my ebooks doing some editing and checking type, etc.

I need some advice on something that is stumping me. I hope the good Lizards that are capable editors can help.

The text: Freshen up your day, anyway you need too!

I am questioning the word “too” as I am thinking it should be “to” and not “too.”

I checked it through Word and online grammar checkers and they seem to accept both.

It is a stand alone statement used as a tip in a motivational book. It is on the page as a guide quote in italics and not part of the general text.

Anyone?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:36:57am

re: #271 ObserverArt

You can just drop the “too” and the sentence will make sense.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:37:17am

re: #271 ObserverArt

In that case, I think “to” is correct. As “too” would mean also. ?

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:39:35am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

You can just drop the “too” and the sentence will make sense.

I can’t make that change, it is the author’s writing. I am just cleaning up the book layout and making it an ebook. It has already been published in print version once. I don’t think I should change her voice.

So “to?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:40:23am

re: #274 ObserverArt

I can’t make that change, it is the author’s writing. I am just cleaning up the book layout and making it an ebook. It has already been published in print version once. I don’t think I should change her voice.

So “to?”

yes, “to”.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:40:29am

re: #273 GlutenFreeJesus

In that case, I think “to” is correct. As “too” would mean also. ?

That is my thinking…too! : )

I was surprised Word and online checkers passed both uses.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:40:39am

re: #274 ObserverArt

I can’t make that change, it is the author’s writing. I am just cleaning up the book layout and making it an ebook. It has already been published in print version once. I don’t think I should change her voice.

So “to?”

to

Believe me!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:41:37am

re: #179 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, his Twitter profile says he’s a lawyer-now if/when Twitter drops the banhammer, let’s see how far he’s willing to take it, unlike the Rage Furby. Then again, he may just be like the Rage Furby-all hat, no cattle.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:41:41am

Thanks all! Imma go with to!

This has been a tasking task. Believe me!

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darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:46:42am

re: #271 ObserverArt

Anyway means ‘regardless’ - We’re going to do it anyway.
Any way is way modified by any. Is there any way Trump can win? (No.)

So in essence that sentence is basically saying to freshen up your day because you need it to happen. So as an aging linguist and grammar nerd, I’d say ‘to’ is correct and ‘too’ might be acceptable if it was followed by “, also” a la Sarah Palin.

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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:49:18am
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darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 6:53:41am

re: #281 Tigger2

If things continue to go as projected, as soon as the clock strikes 8pm on election night MSNBC will call the it for Clinton and switch over to a Lockup Raw marathon to try and hold viewers.

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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:00:58am

re: #282 darthstar

If things continue to go as projected, as soon as the clock strikes 8pm on election night MSNBC will call the it for Clinton and switch over to a Lockup Raw marathon to try and hold viewers.

That would be funny as hell, it would take years to clean up all the wingnuts brain matter from their heads exploding.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:04:40am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:06:00am

WOOT! I just got THIS BOOK! The Pie-atus is coming to an end.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:07:11am

re: #284 Dr. Matt

It’s going to be Cruz/Pence 2020. But they will lose too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:07:28am
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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:08:33am

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

WOOT! I just got THIS BOOK! The Pie-atus is coming to an end.

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There’s pie?????

(yes, i will keep doing this whenever pie comes up)

also a pretty good scene in “Michael” with travolta, about pie

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:11:41am

re: #179 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He has a plan!

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Oh, and I bet he endorses tort reform.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:13:02am

re: #179 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He has a plan!

Just like the Cylons, and we all know how that turned out.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:13:31am

re: #289 Eventual Carrion

Oh, and I bet he endorses tort reform.

And respects the independence of corporations from excessive government interference.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:14:32am

re: #289 Eventual Carrion

Please make it raspberry…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:15:22am

re: #290 Timothy Watson

Just like the Cylons, and we all know how that turned out.

He’s nowhere as attractive as Number Six or Boomer, though.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:24:39am

re: #290 Timothy Watson

Just like the Cylons, and we all know how that turned out.

So say we all!

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:25:55am
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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:26:46am

re: #212 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Young conservative pleads with other conservatives to vote for Hillary Clinton. We here know the arguments already, but his essay puts them all in one neat package for others to read.

extranewsfeed.com

some really thorough and well thought out responses

and others, exactly as closed-minded as you’d expect (ie - “You think HRC will be better than Trump. Only a liberal could think this.”)

and i still say if trump is as bad as just laid out in all those words and examples, then third party or no vote is a cowardly hedge. you do *everything* you can to see hes not elected.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:28:52am

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

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But tRump, as a child, punching a teacher shows his strength of character and conviction? Really?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:30:18am

re: #295 lawhawk

How would a President Trump respond to such a catastrophe? I shudder to think of it.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:30:26am
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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:30:56am

re: #298 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

How would a President Trump respond to such a catastrophe? I shudder to think of it.

The same way that the mobsters in Goodfellas deal with the restaurant business.

Fuck you. Pay me.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:33:14am

Very interesting:

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:33:17am

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:36:46am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You realize that even if Trump loses big, the argument will be “It could’t have really been that big a margin!!! Fraud!!! Intimidation!!! Tampering!!!!”

If Trump loses at all, the memes will be the same. Small loss, large loss, blockbuster epic loss…doesn’t matter.

Only the lyrics will very.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:40:00am

re: #301 lawhawk

Very interesting:

What “two historically unpopular” meme hides: HRC is only unpopular w/ whites.

So, what you’re saying is; Hillary Clinton will in fact be the USA’s first black President…
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Weaselone  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:42:22am

re: #212 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Young conservative pleads with other conservatives to vote for Hillary Clinton. We here know the arguments already, but his essay puts them all in one neat package for others to read.

extranewsfeed.com

Writer still seems to be somewhat in his denial about the state of conservatives in the US when he writes his (despite what some Democrats say) points. He might believe that’s what conservatives stand for, but a sizable plurality believe otherwise and the current support for Trump suggests that a good portion of conservatives hold other values as far more important.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:42:40am

re: #299 lawhawk

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I’m sure everyone has had a mistake where they wished they could wake up and it not have occurred. It never happens, and most of us have to pay for our mistakes. Only the lucky few get to con other people into donating to their foundation to pay for them.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:44:53am

re: #237 dangerman

electoral-vote.com

compare the graph

Electoral College 2016 Including States Where the Candidates are Statistically Tied

and then 2 graphs down the 2012

That this freaking guy could get any EC votes, let alone 200+, boggles my freaking mind.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:46:30am

Reminder:

Trump and Pence both don’t believe global warming is real. This has real world consequences given that much of the Gulf Coast and East Coast get hit by hurricanes on a periodic basis. Stronger hurricanes means more widespread damage, higher insurance claims, higher flooding costs, more coastal erosion and land loss.

Burying your head in the sand wont matter when the beach you’d chosen to bury your head in is washed out to sea.

The anti-science party is in fact-denial about everything. Science. Politics. Everything.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:46:33am

re: #305 Weaselone

Writer still seems to be somewhat in his denial about the state of conservatives in the US when he writes his (despite what some Democrats say) points. He might believe that’s what conservatives stand for, but a sizable plurality believe otherwise and the current support for Trump suggests that a good portion of conservatives hold other values as far more important.

I grant you that. He’s obviously not well aware of the atavistic tendencies of Republicans outside his college edumucated circles.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:46:56am

re: #305 Weaselone

Writer still seems to be somewhat in his denial about the state of conservatives in the US when he writes his (despite what some Democrats say) points. He might believe that’s what conservatives stand for, but a sizable plurality believe otherwise and the current support for Trump suggests that a good portion of conservatives hold other values as far more important.

I was thinking the same thing. He sets up some marvelous strawmen.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:48:32am

re: #308 lawhawk

South Korea got hit by a typhoon recently, too. Lots of flooding, lost homes, etc.

theguardian.com

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:50:58am

That’s significantly less than I expected…
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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:52:05am

re: #311 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

South Korea got hit by a typhoon recently, too. Lots of flooding, lost homes, etc.

theguardian.com

Trump would demand a protection payment before the United States military would do anything to help.

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Interesting Times  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:52:28am
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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:53:29am

re: #311 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rapid intensification is a real issue - warmer ocean levels means that there’s more energy for the storms to tap. The further north that warm water goes, the longer those storms can tap that energy, putting even more of the coast at risk of stronger storms.

That goes for the East Coast/Gulf Coast as well as Pacific and Indian Ocean basins as well.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:53:53am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

That’s significantly less than I expected…
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So, some woman and her kid have to evacuate?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:55:00am

re: #307 MsJ

That this freaking guy could get any EC votes, let alone 200+, boggles my freaking mind.

Yeah, the appropriate EV for Trump is 0. That he would any state is cause for concern.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:56:04am

re: #242 dangerman

We need a pundit purge.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:56:44am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:58:27am

re: #282 darthstar

If things continue to go as projected, as soon as the clock strikes 8pm on election night MSNBC will call the it for Clinton and switch over to a Lockup Raw marathon to try and hold viewers.

Internet win for you.

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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:58:43am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 6, 2016 • 7:58:48am

re: #307 MsJ

That this freaking guy could get any EC votes, let alone 200+, boggles my freaking mind.

The election could be turning into the landslide we were hoping for. According to Nate Silver’s polls only model, Clinton has opened up a five point lead nationally, and could win all the states Obama won in 2012, plus North Carolina and Arizona, where she and Trump are virtually tied. Another terrible debate performance by Trump on Sunday, which is a virtual certainty, should only hasten his collapse.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:00:23am

re: #301 lawhawk

Very interesting:

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I’d love to see that broken down by age groups.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:00:29am

538’s Now-cast back up to 85%.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:00:33am

re: #321 Tigger2

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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with the 18% undecided?

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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:01:47am

re: #325 Timothy Watson

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with the 18% undecided?

The high as hell voting block //

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:02:00am

re: #325 Timothy Watson

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with the 18% undecided?

Anyone truly still undecided at this point probably won’t vote.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:02:20am

Trump gave to O’Keefe?
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:03:51am

re: #321 Tigger2

Johnson was in the 20s sometime in the last 2 weeks aong our age group.

It looks like people realized what a fuckwit Johnson is.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:03:57am

re: #325 Timothy Watson

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with the 18% undecided?

Family Guy - Undecided Voters

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:04:37am

re: #330 GlutenFreeJesus

Most of those 15% were former Johnson supporters.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:05:04am

re: #329 Ziggy_TARDIS

Johnson was in the 20s sometime in the last 2 weeks aong our age group.

It looks like people realized what a fuckwit Johnson is.

About time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:07:40am

Matthew is back up to a Cat4

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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:09:55am

Must say I’m still really shocked that Pence whipped out the “You whipped out that Mexican thing again”. Pence actually said that. in a debate. on national TV. during a general election campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:11:01am

re: #326 Tigger2

The high as hell voting block //

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:11:11am

Some old dudes made a new album, I hear.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:11:16am

re: #330 GlutenFreeJesus

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I’m not going to watch the video at work, but I am imagining the guy saying the Hulu quote at the bottom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:12:51am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:13:55am

re: #336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some old dudes made a new album, I hear.

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And Mick’s going to be a father again.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:14:40am

re: #334 Sir John Barron

Must say I’m still really shocked that Pence whipped out the “You whipped out that Mexican thing again”. Pence actually said that. in a debate. on national TV. during a general election campaign.

Pence, like the running mate he denies having, doesn’t consider Hispanics worth his time to cultivate as voters. This will be their undoing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:14:55am
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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:15:02am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:15:46am

re: #339 Stanley Sea

And Mick’s going to be a father again.

More power to him, but I rather doubt he’ll get to see the kid graduate university.

Now, watch, the fucker will live to be 120.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:17:11am

re: #343 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

More power to him, but I rather doubt he’ll get to see the kid graduate university.

Now, watch, the fucker will live to be 120.

My money is on Keith for that.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:17:54am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

My money is on Keith for that.

Keith will be around to watch the heat death of the universe.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:18:06am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

My money is on Keith for that.

Yeah, and on surviving to 120.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:18:11am

what can go wrong?

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:19:16am

re: #342 lawhawk

After listening to that one guy’s video where he was speaking to one of these Indian “IRS agents” I can only weep for the ignorance of our population. Seriously, they were worse than the “Your computer is infected, go to my website so we can fix it” guys.

I’m sorry but you have to be a class A ignoramus to fall for “buy a Target card” to pay for your taxes.

SMFH.

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Great White Snark  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:19:57am

Glad I’m not superstitious.

PALLADIUM 10/06/2016 11:08am $666.00 -13.00%

$666? No biggie. But then down 13%? 😱

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:19:58am

Baby Whiplash thinks Mitt Romney won the 2012 election with 316 electoral votes. I guess they don’t teach math at Harvard Law. Or actual facts, like, Mitt Romney is not the POTUS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:20:12am
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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:20:15am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

My money is on Keith for that.

Because he is better pickled? :-)

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:20:46am

re: #239 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Rail service is still fubar in and out of Hoboken due to that train crash last week. Dont’ think it’ll have service restored for another week at least. There’s no reports indicating even a timeline for restoration of service, which is troubling to say the least.

They haven’t removed the locomotive yet and they’ve managed to erect a wood screen around the affected track area, but the station is still closed. That means all those who relied on that train are having to find alternative means to get to work - and extra travel delays. We’re talking 50k people using the station daily.

Anyhow, it still looks like Pence and Trump can’t tell the truth, or reality.

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That should help describe the phenomenon.

Trump’s response on Yucca Mt. was not only atrocious, but emblematic of every Trump pronouncement. Blustering BS that says nothing. He doesn’t care. Only thing he cares about is his taxes - and cutting them as much as possible. Details like where and how to store the nation’s nuclear waste, which was supposed to be at Yucca Mt. simply don’t enter the conversation.

Trump’s response on Yucca Mountain was Bullshit Mountain.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:21:16am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash thinks Mitt Romney won the 2012 election with 316 electoral votes. I guess they don’t teach math at Harvard Law. Or actual facts, like, Mitt Romney is not the POTUS.

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He’s an idiot.

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Ubiq  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:23:16am

re: #314 Interesting Times

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I don’t know if you noticed, but I watched this video twice and didn’t hear Ted Cruz say the word ‘Trump’.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:23:53am

HEH! Love this guy.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:24:22am

“The Time Is Now…Rise for #1FairWage” (Featuring Thandie Newton & Chantal Georges)

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Birth Control Works  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:26:25am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:27:38am

re: #356 Ubiq

I don’t know if you noticed, but I watched this video twice and didn’t hear Ted Cruz say the word ‘Trump’.

I did notice. Assumed I had missed it.

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calochortus  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:28:29am

re: #349 MsJ

After listening to that one guy’s video where he was speaking to one of these Indian “IRS agents” I can only weep for the ignorance of our population. Seriously, they were worse than the “Your computer is infected, go to my website so we can fix it” guys.

I’m sorry but you have to be a class A ignoramus to fall for “buy a Target card” to pay for your taxes.

SMFH.

They tend to get money from newer immigrants, people with something to hide, and the elderly. People who don’t understand the system, are afraid of the authorities or are easily confused/losing some mental faculties. There are enough of those to make good money off of.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:30:03am

WE ARE NOT GOING BACK

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:30:40am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

Think he simply meant that the 310 EVs for Obama in 2012 against Romney versus the anticipated 316 EVs for Clinton against Trump.

Reality is that GOP majorities in some states are so great that it’s tough to get them to turn blue, even when the nominee is a raging shitmonger like Trump. In fact, he’s their kind of candidate - anti-factual, anti-rational, and bigoted like they are. Trump’s let their inner bigot come out to play. While most establishment GOPers coddle and encourage bigotry and misogyny, they do so in a more circumspect manner. It’s couched in pretty terms or code - see how NRO has operated for years.

Trump’s pushing all this in the open and his style is more direct. GOP establishment opposition is on style, not substance. We’ve seen the substance being virtually identical from the primaries on. Trump’s tax policy mirrors the GOP plan Ryan proposed. Trump’s Obamacare replacement is GOP vaporware - repeal and pray for a quick death.

Doubt we’d see the kind of thrashing that the GOP truly deserves.

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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:32:20am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:33:31am
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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:33:52am

re: #317 Sir John Barron

Yeah, the appropriate EV for Trump is 0. That he would any state is cause for concern.

its this:

“You think HRC will be better than Trump. Only a liberal could think this.”)

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:34:09am

Damn. Doesn’t make it any easier when you know this was likely:

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:36:04am

re: #339 Stanley Sea

And Mick’s going to be a father again.

competing with tony randall?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:49:41am

re: #364 Tigger2

We are within 6 in Texas, in a demographically flawed poll which might mean it is closer.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:49:53am

re: #367 lawhawk

No miracle.

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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:49:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:50:07am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

HURRICANE MATTHEW: Gov. Scott: More than 1.5 Floridians under evacuation order

Florida Man Undecided on Whether to Flee or Not

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:51:17am

ICYMI, a feel-good police stop story.

washingtonpost.com

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:54:39am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Florida Man Undecided on Whether to Flee or Not

some say stay
some say go

opinions vary on this

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:00:06am

re: #374 dangerman

some say stay
some say go

opinions vary on this

Exactly.

The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go

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Great White Snark  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:00:11am

From what I’m reading here and there this hurricane could set our space programs back. Strongest storm to hit Kennedy space center since it was built if forecasts hold up.

gizmodo.com

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:02:21am

re: #349 MsJ

Some of these IRS scams are insidious and sophisticated though. They can spoof the actual IRS or state tax agency phone numbers, have some easily available public information about the marks, and make demands that someone who might not be sophisticated or understand their tax obligations feel like they’re talking to an official IRS or state tax official.

They need only get SSN, tax ID, birth date and address info, bank accounts, and they can wreak havoc.

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danarchy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:02:29am

re: #258 freetoken

Do not under any circumstances go to Chuck E. Cheese’s:

Massive fight at Florida Chuck E. Cheese’s caught on video

With all of the “Florida man” stories out there I wonder if Do not under any circumstances go to Florida might be better advice.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:08:59am

re: #377 lawhawk

Some of these IRS scams are insidious and sophisticated though. They can spoof the actual IRS or state tax agency phone numbers, have some easily available public information about the marks, and make demands that someone who might not be sophisticated or understand their tax obligations feel like they’re talking to an official IRS or state tax official.

They need only get SSN, tax ID, birth date and address info, bank accounts, and they can wreak havoc.

its amazing how many people dont get that the irs doesnt call you on the phone

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:09:52am
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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:11:15am

re: #282 darthstar

If things continue to go as projected, as soon as the clock strikes 8pm on election night MSNBC will call the it for Clinton and switch over to a Lockup Raw marathon to try and hold viewers.

I want to say that no matter how well I think election night goes for Clinton, my vote will be among those for her. I won’t miss getting to the polls. This is too important and I hope all Lizards feel the same.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:13:00am

re: #381 Semper Fi

I want to say that no matter how well I think election night goes for Clinton, my vote will be among those for her. I won’t miss getting to the polls. This is too important and I hope all Lizards feel the same.

It was clear to me from the shots of the people lines waiting to vote that Obama was gonna win in 2008, but I stayed up (until 4am CET) just to hear the folks at Fox whine and gnash their teeth.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:14:40am

re: #381 Semper Fi

I want to say that no matter how well I think election night goes for Clinton, my vote will be among those for her. I won’t miss getting to the polls. This is too important and I hope all Lizards feel the same.

It’s not those of us here that are a problem. How many people do you know that will vote for Clinton? Do you have a plan in place to make sure they are going to vote? I’ve told everyone I know that is going to vote for Clinton that I will be contacting them to make sure they vote. It’s not quite campaign level GOTV, but it’ll help.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:14:41am

re: #380 Stanley Sea

Cool! @rantingowl is one of my former students from KY, and the author of two young adult SF novels to date. She and her husband just moved to FL from Chicago a few months ago.

Nice catch. I like.

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danarchy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:18:35am

re: #336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some old dudes made a new album, I hear.

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holy crap they all look like death warmed over.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:24:07am

re: #385 danarchy

holy crap they all look like death warmed over.

Live hard, die hard

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:25:08am

re: #384 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Cool! @rantingowl is one of my former students from KY, and the author of two young adult SF novels to date. She and her husband just moved to FL from Chicago a few months ago.

Nice catch. I like.

Very cool!

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makeitstop  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:25:47am

re: #385 danarchy

holy crap they all look like death warmed over.

Very well-dressed death warmed over, though.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:25:58am

re: #385 danarchy

holy crap they all look like death warmed over.

Preserved/embalmed for eternity is more like it.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:27:10am
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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:30:58am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was clear to me from the shots of the people lines waiting to vote that Obama was gonna win in 2008, but I stayed up (until 4am CET) just to hear the folks at Fox whine and gnash their teeth.

I was pulling for McCain on that one. I’ve come a long way since then.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:33:52am

re: #391 Semper Fi

I was pulling for McCain on that one. I’ve come a long way since then.

I voted for McC in the 2000 GOP primaries and might well have supported him in the general…way back then.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:34:49am

This fucker needs to go.

If Donald Trump is elected president and Republicans hold onto Congress, House Speaker Paul Ryan is bluntly promising to ram a partisan agenda through Capitol Hill next year, with Obamacare repeal and trillion-dollar tax cuts likely at the top of the list. And Democrats would be utterly defenseless to stop them.

Typically, party leaders offer at least the pretense of seeking bipartisanship when discussing their policy plans. But Ryan is saying frankly that Republicans would use budget reconciliation — a powerful procedural tool — to bypass Democrats entirely. It’s the same tool Republicans slammed Democrats for using to pass the 2010 health care law over their objections.

Ryan peeled back the curtain on his strategy at a news conference after a reporter suggested he would struggle to implement his ambitious agenda next year. After all, it was noted, Republicans are certain to lack the 60 votes needed in the Senate to break Democratic filibusters on legislation. So Ryan gave a minitutorial on congressional rules and the bazooka in his pocket for the assembled reporters.

“This is our plan for 2017,” Ryan said, waving a copy of his “Better Way” policy agenda. “Much of this you can do through budget reconciliation.” He explained that key pieces are “fiscal in nature,” meaning they can be moved quickly through a budget maneuver that requires a simple majority in the Senate and House. “This is our game plan for 2017,” Ryan said again to the seemingly unconvinced press.

Here’s how the process works: If the House and Senate pass identical budgets, they can include broad instructions for Congress to pass reconciliation legislation that has privileged status and cannot be filibustered in the Senate. The bill is intended to change current law to comply with the budget’s directives and must abide by certain parliamentary rules, such as having some effect on spending or tax levels. But ultimately a broad swath of policy changes can be made. “There’s an enormous amount you can do under reconciliation,” Stein said.

Anti-tax activist Grover Norquist agreed. “I think you can do everything that’s in the Paul Ryan budget plan in reconciliation,” he said. “That’s the model. It’s not some secret, it’s the obvious thing to do.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:35:31am

The more DT is down in the polls, the more we can come to expect all sorts of shitflaps and even physical dust-ups at the polling places in November…they have to create and perpetuate the notion that there were widespread irregularities that allowed HRC to win by such a large margin…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:35:55am

re: #393 MsJ

The Republican Party needs to be destroyed.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:36:46am

re: #393 MsJ

This fucker needs to go.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:37:19am
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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:39:13am

re: #396 dangerman

i’m not too worried

If Donald Trump is elected president and Republicans hold onto Congress,

From the article.

Other pieces of Ryan’s “Better Way” policy agenda that could find their way into a reconciliation measure are controversial proposals to bring down the costs of Medicare and Medicaid or overhaul the food stamp program and housing assistance for low-income renters. Every line of the bill would face scrutiny from Democrats, but a skilled procedural tactician could overcome most parliamentary challenges.

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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:39:22am

re: #383 Belafon

It’s not those of us here that are a problem. How many people do you know that will vote for Clinton? Do you have a plan in place to make sure they are going to vote? I’ve told everyone I know that is going to vote for Clinton that I will be contacting them to make sure they vote. It’s not quite campaign level GOTV, but it’ll help.

To be honest, most that I know will vote for Clinton. My Trump friends, with few exceptions, seem to be voting for DT because R-e-p-u-b-l-i-c-a-n. I can only hope voters see the importance of this election as I do and get themselves to the polls.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:41:17am

re: #399 Semper Fi

I’ve gotten viciously ruthless with Trumpers and Third Partiers. I will admit that I don’t quite treat Trumpers as human anymore.

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darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:43:20am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:44:13am

JFC, stop sending me e-mails Hillary! I am volunteering almost every evening, I’ve donated money, and I still get three or four e-mails a day.

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darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:44:55am

re: #401 darthstar

Cape Canaveral is gonna be under water.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:45:57am

re: #402 Timothy Watson

JFC, stop sending me e-mails Hillary! I am volunteering almost every evening, I’ve donated money, and I still get three or four e-mails a day.

I know. Me too. But, whatever. Deleting emails is easier than anything Trump.

My favorites are the ones asking for money when I just gave them $100 the day before. I will give them as much as I can afford.

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Ubiq  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:47:46am

Somebody in my Facebook friends list is doing his damnedest to convince my friends list that Gary Johnson isn’t an idiot. I’m currently toying with him the way my cat toys with insects that wander into my living room.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:47:47am

re: #379 dangerman

its amazing how many people dont get that the irs doesnt call you on the phone

We’ve got a couple of robbo calls claiming to be from the IRS wanting us to call them back. The first clue that it was it was a scam was of course, the IRS doesn’t call you. The second clue was the area code was for Elko county (775) and I’m a Idaho resident so the area code should have been 208 so we ignored it. A couple of days later the same number called back threatening legal action if we didn’t call. Still waiting for a third call. I passed the number on to the State Attorneys office, but as they said, there really isn’t much they can do about it and asked that I let friends and family know about the scam.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:49:09am

re: #399 Semper Fi

To be honest, most that I know will vote for Clinton. My Trump friends, with few exceptions, seem to be voting for DT because R-e-p-u-b-l-i-c-a-n. I can only hope voters see the importance of this election as I do and get themselves to the polls.

i can already see 2020 rolling around: “vote R, at least he’s not trump”

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:49:36am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:49:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:50:36am
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darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:50:48am

re: #402 Timothy Watson

JFC, stop sending me e-mails Hillary! I am volunteering almost every evening, I’ve donated money, and I still get three or four e-mails a day.

But [valued_constituent_name], Donald Trump is an imminent threat to [your_demographic_here]’s way of life. Surely that’s worth a token donation of [$25] [$50] [$100] [$enter_amount] or whatever you can afford!

My favorite form letters are the ones that ask for donations in small district races in Wisconsin or Ohio or Arkansas…

Crap. Meeting time. Don’t forget to donate, and smile when you do. You’re a part of history.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:51:15am

re: #405 Ubiq

Somebody in my Facebook friends list is doing his damnedest to convince my friends list that Gary Johnson isn’t an idiot. I’m currently toying with him the way my cat toys with insects that wander into my living room.

whether he is or isnt really misses it (for them not you)

he cant win so a vote for him is pointless (and makes no effective statement)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:52:25am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:53:21am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

Very moving. Didn’t know about the connection between slavery and tipped workers. It’s a shame that any worker has to depend on the kindness of customers instead of dependable wages.

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BeachDem  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:54:01am

re: #271 ObserverArt

I see others have made suggestion about “to”—haven’t read the whole thread so sorry if this is a repeat, but it shoud be

any way
not anyway.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:56:06am

re: #414 Patricia Kayden

Very moving. Didn’t know about the connection between slavery and tipped workers. It’s a shame that any worker has to depend on the kindness of customers instead of dependable wages.

Europe has tipping, but it is a matter of rounding up the bill if one is pleased with the service, a 15% service charge is already built in.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:56:20am

re: #411 darthstar

But [valued_constituent_name], Donald Trump is an imminent threat to [your_demographic_here]’s way of life. Surely that’s worth a token donation of [$25] [$50] [$100] [$enter_amount] or whatever you can afford!

My favorite form letters are the ones that ask for donations in small district races in Wisconsin or Ohio or Arkansas…

Crap. Meeting time. Don’t forget to donate, and smile when you do. You’re a part of history.

I got an e-mail from Hillary wanting 14 more supporters in my zip code before the first debate about two hours before the debate.

According to the Census Burea, there are 238 people in the entire zip code.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:57:06am

A note about Free Republic. When posting there, it is still necessary to enter HTML symbols individually for paragraphing, fonts, and (especially) links. You can’t just highlight something and hit a button. It won’t even keep your paragraph breaks unless you enter the < p> and </p> symbols. This is the only website I know of that is still like this.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:57:39am

re: #402 Timothy Watson

JFC, stop sending me e-mails Hillary! I am volunteering almost every evening, I’ve donated money, and I still get three or four e-mails a day.

Can you shift them to your junk file? That’s what I do with my hotmail account for unwanted emails.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:58:20am

re: #416 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Europe has tipping, but it is a matter of rounding up the bill if one is pleased with the service, a 15% service charge is already built in.

Europe has tipping only? Didn’t know that.

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danarchy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:59:08am

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Actually those state polls listed are accurate unfortunately according to

reuters.com

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:01:51am

re: #421 danarchy

Those polls were from 2-3 weeks ago.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:02:29am

re: #421 danarchy

Actually those state polls listed are accurate unfortunately according to

reuters.com

Those are fairly hardcore red states, so it doesn’t really surprise me. It still won’t do Trump a damn bit of good, though. I figure that Hillary will the states that Obama won in 2012 plus one or two more.

And that’s that. President Obama proved you no longer need the Deep South in order to win the Presidency, which effectively nullifies the Southern Strategy.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:03:07am

I can’t re-find the post above this link to a Salon article came from, I may just be going right past it, but read it if you get a chance. It is a fascinating study in polling and residual thinking from Clinton days past and how it all builds the Clinton “baggage” that gets hung around her neck.

So here is the link again. It’s a long one packed with facts. Just read it while munching on a Turkey sub.

salon.com - Why the “two historically unpopular candidates” meme is a sham — one that boosts Donald Trump

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:03:08am

re: #418 Shiplord Kirel

A note about Free Republic. When posting there, it is still necessary to enter HTML symbols individually for paragraphing, fonts, and (especially) links. You can’t just highlight something and hit a button. It won’t even keep your paragraph breaks unless you enter the < p> and </p> symbols. This is the only website I know of that is still like this.

Hehe, is he still begging for hundreds of thousands of dollars every year for his sever costs?

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:03:19am

re: #421 danarchy

Actually those state polls listed are accurate unfortunately according to

reuters.com

I went to your link. This is below the map:

Clinton’s chance of winning is about 88%, by a margin of about 60 electoral votes.

I’ll take it.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:03:42am

So Trump who says he never wants to project his secret plans, is going to do a town hall tonight. Perfect study material for the Clinton campaign.

D’oh!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:03:47am

re: #423 Dr Lizardo

More to the point, the deep south is fracturing.

Virginia is gone, North Carolina is following, and it looks like Georgia is about to do the same.

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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:04:23am

re: #400 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ve gotten viciously ruthless with Trumpers and Third Partiers. I will admit that I don’t quite treat Trumpers as human anymore.

I must admit, that early on, when I listened to Trump, I thought, “Hey, he says things I’ve been thinking for a long time now.” In that sense, I was a bit taken in…but not for long. Now, I too find myself a bit ruthless like during the debate when HRC was talking the camera showed Trump’s face with stiff lips and slit eyes. I love that look on him and feel he’s just about to lose it hoping that HRC can say something else to make him really show himself.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:05:16am

re: #421 danarchy

And Reuters still gives Clinton 88% chance of victory.

Clinton leads in EVs based on the states polling thus far. It hasn’t even been close structurally. Trump needs every one of the battleground states to flip to him, and then some. Don’t think it happens.

But watch for Trump to go off on the hurricane response - as if Obama is going to politicize it to favor Clinton.

Just ignore that the GOP will demand immediate aid, ignore all fiscal constraints, etc., while they made NY and NJ jump thru hoops after Sandy for months.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:05:47am

re: #420 Patricia Kayden

Europe has tipping only? Didn’t know that.

No, just the opposite, the employees get a fixed wage with benefits and holidays, “tipping” consist of rounding up the bill to the nearest even amount if one is pleased, or even adding a bit, but in general, the 15% service charge is built in to the bill

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:06:14am

re: #428 Ziggy_TARDIS

More to the point, the deep south is fracturing.

Virginia is gone, North Carolina is following, and it looks like Georgia is about to do the same.

Owing to the nation’s changing demographics, Texas will eventually go blue, and when that happens, the Southern Strategy will be truly dead and buried.

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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:06:37am

re: #429 Semper Fi

I must admit, that early on, when I listened to Trump, I thought, “Hey, he says things I’ve been thinking for a long time now.” In that sense, I was a bit taken in…but not for long. Now, I too find myself a bit ruthless like during the debate when HRC was talking the camera showed Trump’s face with stiff lips and slit eyes. I love that look on him and feel he’s just about to lose it hoping that HRC can say something else to make him really show himself.

She wont have a problem doing that Trump can’t stand to be talked back to by a woman or to be shown by a woman he is wrong on an issue.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:07:27am

re: #380 Stanley Sea

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More for the rest of us, then….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:08:35am

re: #430 lawhawk

Trump fans on twitter are already outraged that Hillary is running ads on The Weather Channel during the hurricane coverage.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:10:08am

re: #430 lawhawk

And Reuters still gives Clinton 88% chance of victory.

Clinton leads in EVs based on the states polling thus far. It hasn’t even been close structurally. Trump needs every one of the battleground states to flip to him, and then some. Don’t think it happens.

But watch for Trump to go off on the hurricane response - as if Obama is going to politicize it to favor Clinton.

Just ignore that the GOP will demand immediate aid, ignore all fiscal constraints, etc., while they made NY and NJ jump thru hoops after Sandy for months.

electoral-vote.com

compare the graphs

Electoral College 2016 Including States Where the Candidates are Statistically Tied

and then 2 graphs down the equivalent from 2012

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:10:23am

re: #425 Timothy Watson

Hehe, is he still begging for hundreds of thousands of dollars every year for his sever costs?

Of course. His quarterly grift-a-thon is pretty much a permanent fixture.

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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:10:50am

re: #407 dangerman

i can already see 2020 rolling around: “vote R, at least he’s not trump”

In 2020, hopefully, there will still be an “R”. I think this election could play a role in that.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:11:19am

re: #402 Timothy Watson

JFC, stop sending me e-mails Hillary! I am volunteering almost every evening, I’ve donated money, and I still get three or four e-mails a day.

re: #404 MsJ

I know. Me too. But, whatever. Deleting emails is easier than anything Trump.

My favorites are the ones asking for money when I just gave them $100 the day before. I will give them as much as I can afford.

I get them too. I do not have that much to give, but I gave what I could. I read the headline/subject maybe read a bit and then hit delete.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:11:21am

re: #429 Semper Fi

I must admit, that early on, when I listened to Trump, I thought, “Hey, he says things I’ve been thinking for a long time now.” In that sense, I was a bit taken in…but not for long. Now, I too find myself a bit ruthless like during the debate when HRC was talking the camera showed Trump’s face with stiff lips and slit eyes. I love that look on him and feel he’s just about to lose it hoping that HRC can say something else to make him really show himself.

I always hated Trump, for years, because he is a bloviating asshat who is in love with himself, his money and nothing more. He’s a sham and a fraud and I never liked him at all.

Like both of you, I find myself having zero patience with his supporters and my inner raging bitch comes out in a huge way at times.

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:12:45am

Rush Limbaugh Thinks Hurricanes Are Part Of A Left-Wing Conspiracy

By all means, stay home in Palm Beach then. You show them libturds who’s boss!

huffingtonpost.com;

I’m sure big talker Limbaugh has already left Florida while convincing his idiot Florida listeners not to.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:12:56am

re: #438 Semper Fi

In 2020, hopefully, there will still be an “R”. I think this election could play a role in that.

There could well be a serious fracture between the various factions of the GOP base, which would be amplified if Trump is dealt an electoral drubbing.

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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:13:53am

re: #433 Tigger2

She wont have a problem doing that Trump can’t stand to be talked back to by a woman or to be shown by a woman he is wrong on an issue.

I totally agree. Isn’t that something? I can’t fathom being that thin skinned. He must be a terrible poker player.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:14:20am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump fans on twitter are already outraged that Hillary is running ads on The Weather Channel during the hurricane coverage.

trump fans on twitter are outraged that hillary is smarter than their guy who is the “smartest”

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BeachDem  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:15:18am

re: #386 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Live hard, die hard

I thought it was live fast, die young, leave a good looking corpse. (Willard Motley—Knock on Any Door—a long-time ago favorite book)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:16:33am

re: #440 MsJ

I always hated Trump, for years, because he is a bloviating asshat who is in love with himself, his money and nothing more. He’s a sham and a fraud and I never liked him at all.

Like both of you, I find myself having zero patience with his supporters and my inner raging bitch comes out in a huge way at times.

My late dad called it years ago, in the 1980s, when Trump was on some interview show or another and my dad started laughing and said to no one in particular, “What a shyster….talks like he’s so damn smart but he probably wouldn’t know shit from shinola unless someone told him.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:17:29am

re: #415 BeachDem

I see others have made suggestion about “to”—haven’t read the whole thread so sorry if this is a repeat, but it shoud be

any way
not anyway.

Good catch!

I’ve been through the book so many times my eyes have glazed over. I have an old axiom…the person producing the book that has read it so many times needs a fresh eye to catch the little things.

You just gave me the fresh eye. Thanks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:19:18am

re: #446 Dr Lizardo

My late dad called it years ago, in the 1980s, when Trump was on some interview show or another and my dad started laughing and said to no one in particular, “What a shyster….talks like he’s so damn smart but he probably wouldn’t know shit from shinola unless someone told him.”

I remember that Spy magazine had a real feud going with him in the 80’s, and recall a Rolling Stone parody headline from around then: “Donald Trump says that if we all lend him all our money, he will use it to buy everything we own and lease it back to us”

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:19:35am

re: #441 Skip Intro

We’re pretty devious in our false flag operations: We’ve set up every massacre and every hurricane.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:21:01am

re: #428 Ziggy_TARDIS

More to the point, the deep south is fracturing.

Virginia is gone, North Carolina is following, and it looks like Georgia is about to do the same.

All states that have become more mainstream America with banking, industry, government and people from the north moving in. It is a good thing.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:21:42am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:21:50am

re: #441 Skip Intro

Rush Limbaugh Thinks Hurricanes Are Part Of A Left-Wing Conspiracy

By all means, stay home in Palm Beach then. You show them libturds who’s boss!

huffingtonpost.com;

I’m sure big talker Limbaugh has already left Florida while convincing his idiot Florida listeners not to.

The greatest trick Obama-devil ever played was convincing people the liberal hurricane-tornado creation machine doesn’t exist.

/

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:22:20am

re: #430 lawhawk

And Reuters still gives Clinton 88% chance of victory.

Clinton leads in EVs based on the states polling thus far. It hasn’t even been close structurally. Trump needs every one of the battleground states to flip to him, and then some. Don’t think it happens.

But watch for Trump to go off on the hurricane response - as if Obama is going to politicize it to favor Clinton.

Just ignore that the GOP will demand immediate aid, ignore all fiscal constraints, etc., while they made NY and NJ jump thru hoops after Sandy for months.

Go off on the response, he will blame the damn storm on Obama. /

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:22:56am

re: #451 Charles Johnson

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Hillary: Mike who? Didn’t Kaine debate him the other night?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:23:00am

re: #451 Charles Johnson

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:24:37am

re: #443 Semper Fi

I totally agree. Isn’t that something? I can’t fathom being that thin skinned. He must be a terrible poker player.

We already know he is a crappy gambler!

(heh)

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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:25:10am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump fans on twitter are already outraged that Hillary is running ads on The Weather Channel during the hurricane coverage.

Hillaries exploiting people diying in a storm!!!!111

Trump travels to Louisiana after storm to dispense trinkets.

Trump is so brave and caring about real Americans!!!!11 Where’s Hillary/Obama?!?!?!??!?!?

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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:25:25am

re: #440 MsJ

I always hated Trump, for years, because he is a bloviating asshat who is in love with himself, his money and nothing more. He’s a sham and a fraud and I never liked him at all.

Like both of you, I find myself having zero patience with his supporters and my inner raging bitch comes out in a huge way at times.

It’s quite possible this election will allow DT to get a handle on how others view him. He’s not hidden behind the gilding after all. One can only hope.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:25:46am

re: #451 Charles Johnson

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MIKE HAS INSIDERS THERE!!!!!!!!11

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:26:35am

re: #445 BeachDem

I thought it was live fast, die young, leave a good looking corpse. (Willard Motley—Knock on Any Door—a long-time ago favorite book)

Shoot, I thought it was sex and drugs and rock’n’roll. (Ian Dury and the Blockheads)

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:27:27am

SMOTI is being challenged for the title.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:27:36am
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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:28:36am

re: #451 Charles Johnson

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There is a Hillary under every bed. Be very scared Mike Cernovich!

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:33:42am

re: #461 lawhawk

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SMOTI is being challenged for the title.

I’ve heard people say that heavy cocaine use enhances the immune system.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:33:53am

these people…

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:36:15am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:36:50am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

these people…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:37:00am
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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:38:32am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

these people…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:38:39am

What the hell is wrong with these people.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:42:17am
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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:42:23am
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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:44:42am

re: #472 lawhawk

HE’S MAKING KILLARY LOOK GOOD! HE SHOULDN’T BE SAVING PEOPLE!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:45:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:46:03am

Nicole is now a Category 1 hurricane

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:46:45am

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, she started looking good yesterday evening.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:47:19am

re: #446 Dr Lizardo

My late dad called it years ago, in the 1980s, when Trump was on some interview show or another and my dad started laughing and said to no on in particular, “What a shyster….talks like he’s so damn smart but he probably wouldn’t know shit from shinola unless someone told him.”

saw this published in the *newspaper* years ago. the oblique reference was brilliant

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:47:42am

re: #472 lawhawk

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OBAMA HAS TURNED FEMA LOOSE ON FLORIDA!!1

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:48:34am
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Great White Snark  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:49:19am

re: #406 Bubblehead II

We’ve got a couple of robbo calls claiming to be from the IRS wanting us to call them back. The first clue that it was it was a scam was of course, the IRS doesn’t call you. The second clue was the area code was for Elko county (775) and I’m a Idaho resident so the area code should have been 208 so we ignored it. A couple of days later the same number called back threatening legal action if we didn’t call. Still waiting for a third call. I passed the number on to the State Attorneys office, but as they said, there really isn’t much they can do about it and asked that I let friends and family know about the scam.

I keep getting the “this is microsoft technical dept and your computer has a virus”. I ask them to call me back on a different number. I give out the LAPD non emergency number or the FBI Los Angeles office.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:49:30am

re: #458 Semper Fi

It’s quite possible this election will allow DT to get a handle on how others view him. He’s not hidden behind the gilding after all. One can only hope.

that made me wonder why he did it at all - no armor, no shield, no protection, no excuses (well so i thought)

he must have really felt he could steamroll the whole thing

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:50:02am

re: #460 ObserverArt

Shoot, I thought it was sex and drugs and rock’n’roll. (Ian Dury and the Blockheads)

+1 for the stiffs

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:52:48am

re: #472 lawhawk

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JUST IN: President Obama declares emergency in Florida ahead of Hurricane Matthew, orders federal aid response

“ahead”?

who does that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:52:59am

re: #449 Belafon

We’re pretty devious in our false flag operations: We’ve set up every massacre and every hurricane.

Well, he claims that they are just exaggerating things. As soon as Al Gore tried to declare himself an Elder Statesman With a Cause and distance himself from his political past, that had the unfortunate effect of turning AGW into a highly partisan affair.

It was not his intent, but it has really derailed the discussion of what needs to be done.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:55:38am

re: #483 dangerman

“ahead”?

who does that?

Figure that’s sarcasm, but if it isn’t, then it’s actually pretty common for hurricanes, blizzards, and other forecasted natural events. This helps preposition assets for speeding aid and gets coordinated response going.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:56:01am

re: #484 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well, he claims that they are just exaggerating things. As soon as Al Gore tried to declare himself an Elder Statesman With a Cause and distance himself from his political past, that had the unfortunate effect of turning AGW into a highly partisan affair.

It was not his intent, but it has really derailed the discussion of what needs to be done.

Given the financial interests of people who are opposed to any type of environmental reform, it was inevitable either way.

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Weaselone  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:56:34am

re: #484 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bull. Global warming was already well on it’s way to becoming a partisan issue.

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Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:56:54am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

That’s significantly less than I expected…
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How is it less if it gives the lower limit? It could be 1 billion Floridians…

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:59:06am

re: #488 Nyet

How is it less if it gives the lower limit? It could be 1 billion Floridians…

You would think they would have issued an order affecting 1.5 million Floridians, not 1.5.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:00:55am

re: #487 Weaselone

Bull. Global warming was already well on it’s way to becoming a partisan issue.

There was a time when even Newt Gingrich was able to sit down with Nancy Pelosi and embrace it as a bipartisan cause. I am not saying that AG is responsible for the extreme divide, I just think it was rather silly of him to think that he could put his political career behind him and be “above” politics.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:01:11am

re: #477 dangerman

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saw this published in the *newspaper* years ago. the oblique reference was brilliant

LOL that is indeed a brilliant oblique reference. I honestly don’t know if that phrase, “….wouldn’t know shit from shinola” is even used any more.

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b.d.  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:01:36am

MATTHEW IS OBAMA’S KATRINA*!!!

* According to the wingnuts this is about Obama’s 30th Katrina and I’ll buy a coke if you can tell me what any of the other ones were.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:02:16am

re: #492 b.d.

MATTHEW IS OBAMA’S KATRINA*!!!

* According to the wingnuts this is about Obama’s 30th Katrina and I’ll buy a coke if you can tell me what any of the other ones were.

Katrina.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:04:39am

re: #485 lawhawk

Figure that’s sarcasm, but if it isn’t, then it’s actually pretty common for hurricanes, blizzards, and other forecasted natural events. This helps preposition assets for speeding aid and gets coordinated response going.

total /s
i figure everyone here can see inside my head and know what i mean
must get better with the tagging thing

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:04:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:05:21am

re: #492 b.d.

MATTHEW IS OBAMA’S KATRINA*!!!

* According to the wingnuts this is about Obama’s 30th Katrina and I’ll buy a coke if you can tell me what any of the other ones were.

There has not been a Katrina, in the sense of a natural disaster exacerbated by poor management, that the President and his appointees could not handle.

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Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:05:23am

re: #489 Belafon

You would think they would have issued an order affecting 1.5 million Floridians, not 1.5.

1.5 million is more than 1.5. What’s the problem? ;)

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:06:35am

Before I could come up with pretty much the same joke.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:07:35am

WTF ???? NSFW

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:07:52am

re: #491 Dr Lizardo

LOL that is indeed a brilliant oblique reference. I honestly don’t know if that phrase, “….wouldn’t know shit from shinola” is even used any more.

id guess not so much because

this

and as the polish company died in 1960, today i’d guess more people know what “shit” is than what shinola “was”

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Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:08:38am

re: #499 Bubblehead II

WTF ???? NSFW

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I am sure that’s not real.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:08:59am

re: #499 Bubblehead II

WTF ???? NSFW

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease continue!!!

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Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:09:19am

re: #499 Bubblehead II

Nice photoshop! (?)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:10:02am

re: #500 dangerman

id guess not so much because

this

and as the polish company died in 1960, today i’d guess more people know what “shit” is than what shinola “was”

And as my dad was of the WW2 generation, that’s where I got it from, because he’d use that particular phrase every now and then.

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Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:10:03am

Um, not the brightest fellow.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:10:27am

re: #492 b.d.

MATTHEW IS OBAMA’S KATRINA*!!!

* According to the wingnuts this is about Obama’s 30th Katrina and I’ll buy a coke if you can tell me what any of the other ones were.

washingtonpost.com

newrepublic.com

slate.com

washingtontimes.com

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:11:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:12:03am

re: #499 Bubblehead II

That can’t be real. Honestly, if I saw that in real life, I’d probably laugh myself to death.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:14:21am

re: #504 Dr Lizardo

And as my dad was of the WW2 generation, that’s where I got it from, because he’d use that particular phrase every now and then.

me as well - thats why when i saw it in the paper, first i was “wow” they did that, then i was “hey, i know what that means so i get the joke. i am so cool”

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Bubblehead II  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:17:24am

re: #501 Timothy Watson

I am sure that’s not real.

I’m sure it’s a shop, but as much as I despise cruze and tRump that is a pretty low blow in my book.

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b.d.  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:17:32am
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Bubblehead II  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:17:53am

re: #503 Nyet

Nice photoshop! (?)

Probably.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:18:06am

It seems Halloween has officially arrived here in the Czech Republic.

“No need to wait for Halloween for the first taste of hops”
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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:20:33am

re: #511 b.d.

very nice

well google gets most of the credit

in reflection i guess almost everything he did and didnt do would qualify and was likely written about by someone

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makeitstop  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:20:42am

re: #513 Dr Lizardo

It seems Halloween has officially arrived here in the Czech Republic.

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At least it’s not Pumpkin Spice, like everything is here now.

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Weaselone  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:21:34am

re: #490 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are many other issues where there was bipartisan effort at that time. Those have pretty much all disappeared and I doubt all of the change is related to Al Gore’s waste line. Global warming is only one of the areas of cooperation that were jettisoned as the Republican Party lurched off in the direction of ideological extremism. Given the pattern, it’s a little dubious to attribute the failure to Al Gore’s involvement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:21:39am
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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:22:19am

re: #515 makeitstop

At least it’s not Pumpkin Spice, like everything is here now.

was she in that girl group…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:22:35am

My son just posted photos of his kids playing on the beach.

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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:23:36am

re: #442 Dr Lizardo

There could well be a serious fracture between the various factions of the GOP base, which would be amplified if Trump is dealt an electoral drubbing.

That would be nice. Possibly leading to serious introspection on where are we and what are we really about.

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:23:45am

re: #516 Weaselone

There are many other issues where there was bipartisan effort at that time. Those have pretty much all disappeared and I doubt all of the change is related to Al Gore’s waste line. Global warming is only one of the areas of cooperation that were jettisoned as the Republican Party lurched off in the direction of ideological extremism. Given the pattern, it’s a little dubious to attribute the failure to Al Gore’s involvement.

they cant even agree on what the government *does* by completing a budget

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:25:04am

re: #515 makeitstop

At least it’s not Pumpkin Spice, like everything is here now.

More than a few of my students have a real difficult time grasping Halloween, but it’s typically the older ones. For my younger students, early to mid 20s, Halloween means dressing up and party time. I’ve never seen kids trick-or-treating here, though. It hasn’t gotten to that level yet, but in the stores, there are now Halloween decorations. I didn’t see that 15 years ago.

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Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:26:18am

re: #519 The Vicious Babushka

My son just posted photos of his kids playing on the beach.

In California, I hope.

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makeitstop  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:26:45am

re: #518 dangerman

was she in that girl group…

She left before they got famous - the Pete Best of the Spice Girls.

She’s having her revenge now, though.

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Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:29:15am

re: #522 Dr Lizardo

More than a few of my students have a real difficult time grasping Halloween, but it’s typically the older ones. For my younger students, early to mid 20s, Halloween means dressing up and party time. I’ve never seen kids trick-or-treating here, though. It hasn’t gotten to that level yet, but in the stores, there are now Halloween decorations. I didn’t see that 15 years ago.

Halloween has never been the same to me since they banned burning leaves where I live, The smell of leaves burning was Halloween.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:29:18am

re: #519 The Vicious Babushka

My son just posted photos of his kids playing on the beach.

GAH

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:30:04am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:30:10am

re: #519 The Vicious Babushka

My son just posted photos of his kids playing on the beach.

Herzliya Pituach, I hope.

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Franklin  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:32:13am

re: #495 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:32:43am

re: #527 The Vicious Babushka

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dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:32:46am

there comes a time in the life cycle of hurricane prep where i am now

all that packing, storing, moving, securing, protecting

and then the lull and waiting, the iffyness of are we or arent we

and one says to oneself (at least i do) we damn well better get hit now after all that work i did. (ok no we really dont, but sorta)

anyway to my eye it looks matthew has slowed a bit. though i could be way wrong. it feels like its toying with us just off the coast

what was supposed to hit us earlier this morning and be howling by now is still barely just beginning and the alerts have pushed peak wind around 6 hours later than they were last night. “almost” could have made it to the office and back today. but no day off. damn this telecommuting!

532
Franklin  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:32:58am

re: #498 Timothy Watson

Dammit, beat me by a mile!

533
Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:33:33am
534
Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:34:10am

re: #531 dangerman

there comes a time in the life cycle of hurricane prep where i am now

all that packing, storing, moving, securing, protecting

and then the lull and waiting, the iffyness of are we or arent we

and one says to oneself (at least i do) we damn well better get hit now after all that work i did. (ok no we really dont, but sorta)

anyway to my eye it looks matthew has slowed a bit. though i could be way wrong. it feels like its toying with us just off the coast

what was supposed to hit us earlier this morning and be howling by now is still barely just beginning and the alerts have pushed peak wind around 6 hours later than they were last night. “almost” could have made it to the office and back today. but no day off. damn this telecommuting!

You’re starting to sound danger-deprived.

535
Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:35:46am

re: #527 The Vicious Babushka

Something tells me if she published these pictures in Israel, the law there wouldn’t see them as free speech.

536
Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:37:27am

re: #534 Decatur Deb

What is actually happening is the Eyewall is replacing itself.

537
Semper Fi  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:38:30am

re: #456 ObserverArt

We already know he is a crappy gambler!

(heh)

You suppose he’s also gambling on this election? Maybe thinking nobody would want a woman President! Add that number, whatever it is, to the Republican vote plus all those who dislike the idea of a black President. Then, when he gets to the podium keep saying over and over how screwed up things are…it’s all bad…we need a change and HRC represents the present administration. He’s gonna lose again.

538
Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:38:47am

re: #533 Charles Johnson

It’s looking like someone needs to call the waaambulance for Mikey there.

or maybe someone can tweet him the butthurt report form:

539
Birth Control Works  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:39:15am

re: #505 Nyet

Um, not the brightest fellow.

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MD Phd and Esq?

a bit insecure?

540
dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:39:22am

re: #534 Decatur Deb

You’re starting to sound danger-deprived.

well i’m not one of those thats gotta go to the beach in the thick of it

and i know i kid about this too much because for many it is serious - but sometimes its like dont threaten us and then back down ya wimp..

.
.
.and in that span of time .. an official drownpouring band just arrived

541
Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:40:09am

re: #530 lawhawk

Abe Foxman thinks it’s still good:

archive.adl.org

Some say that Evangelicals are behind Israel for the wrong reasons: they see Israel’s existence as a necessary precursor for Armageddon and the second coming of Christ, visions which do not include a place for Jews. These religious beliefs, however, speak to an unknown future (indeed one that Jews do not envision). Meanwhile, the very real present is one in which Evangelical leaders are educating their publics about the importance of Israel’s existence, security and well-being, that no amount of public relations and advertising budgets could buy.

542
Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:42:02am

re: #527 The Vicious Babushka

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I asked when her enlistment date is, she hasn’t responded yet.

543
Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:42:16am

re: #539 Birth Control Works

Otto Rasch, the commander of the murderous Einsatzgruppe C, had two doctorates and thus was officially known as Dr. Dr. Rasch. (Yes, it’s a thing in Germany.)

544
dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:43:34am

re: #543 Nyet

Otto Rasch, the commander of the murderous Einsatzgruppe C, had two doctorates and thus was officially known as Dr. Dr. Rasch. (Yes, it’s a thing in Germany.)

here too

Spies LIke Us - Legendary “Doctor” scene

545
lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:43:40am

re: #541 Nyet

While I think it’s a bad deal; it’s realpolitik. The support means Israel gets continued foreign aid/assistance from US, even if the ultimate aim of these supporters is to see Israel go out in a blaze of glory. For Foxman, it’s something that’ll never happen (we hope) (Armageddon/End Times).

546
Birth Control Works  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:44:39am
A representative of the Texas State Teachers Association, which has sprung to Ms. McGee’s defense, calls it “the first ‘nudity-in-a-museum case’ we have seen.”

“Teachers get in trouble for a variety of reasons,” said the association’s general counsel, Kevin Lungwitz, “but I’ve never heard of a teacher getting in trouble for taking her kiddoes on an approved trip to an art museum.”

She’s been basically fired.

I guess we’ll have another round of desecration of major works of art as in the medieval ages.

547
Sir John Barron  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:45:36am

re: #533 Charles Johnson

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Wooooooaaaah, we got a real badass here.

/

548
dangerman  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:47:15am
549
Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:47:47am

Calling it a day. Have a good one Lizards.

550
Kragar  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:48:44am
551
Birth Control Works  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:48:49am

how is it so far?

552
Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:50:04am

re: #546 Birth Control Works

She’s been basically fired.

I guess we’ll have another round of desecration of major works of art as in the medieval ages.

I guess we won’t allow students to see Michelangelo’s David.

Wait, I think I just stepped on a plot of The Simpsons.

553
Franklin  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:50:27am

re: #550 Kragar

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I hate it when mommy and mommy wingnut fight.

554
sagehen  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:53:05am

re: #325 Timothy Watson

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with the 18% undecided?

They didn’t want a TV because they have Netflix, Amazon and Hulu. None of which have any news coverage.

555
Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:55:33am
556
darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:55:48am

Ted Cruz phone banking for the guy who insulted his wife and accused his father of conspiring to kill JFK.

557
darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:56:34am

re: #556 darthstar

Ted Cruz phone banking for the guy who insulted his wife and accused his father of conspiring to kill JFK.

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Ooh…I didn’t expect embedded tweets to show.

558
darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:58:39am

Double-tap.

559
Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:58:51am

re: #555 Tigger2

Evangelicals are not a monolith. Some even accept evolution ;)

560
darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:59:15am

re: #558 darthstar

Double-tap.

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561
Shiplord Kirel  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:00:16pm

Cute break!

This is Jack, guarding some dog toy things from Jo-Jo, a similar creature who is just out of view.

5MghDqzD4NZ7+Bci2Px2dU8c9hOpYRgX8duGuHEzFfAMopJoHdj1Q9P53K0QeT1C1XnRiRBOFKH1dZE+49J9hEyYRYihG1poBn8XcbGbRoENoKQpbIA7q6xmM0xb3c6eic4sha/z885r60YApcyxNIsyPQS6GNy4qXL5EF5zFGzCKmu6X8mvXQ==

562
Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:00:52pm

re: #559 Nyet

Evangelicals are not a monolith. Some even accept evolution ;)

I’m sure that’s true and I’m sure there are more than 80 leaders.

563
Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:01:30pm
564
Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:03:54pm

re: #563 Nyet

To remind everyone that the moonman on the picture is basically a genocidal anti-black (and anti- many other things) symbol.

565
Tigger2  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:06:26pm

re: #563 Nyet

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It looks like a paintball target to me.

566
Big Beautiful Door  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:06:28pm

re: #546 Birth Control Works

She’s been basically fired.

I guess we’ll have another round of desecration of major works of art as in the medieval ages.

567
Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:07:52pm

re: #556 darthstar

Ted Cruz phone banking for the guy who insulted his wife and accused his father of conspiring to kill JFK.

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“Can I have a moment of your time to talk about our Lord and Savior, Donald Trump? No? Alright, enjoy your day. *click*”

568
allegro  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:08:50pm

re: #552 Timothy Watson

I guess we won’t allow students to see Michelangelo’s David.

Wait, I think I just stepped on a plot of The Simpsons.

Or a whole lot of Jesus on crosses.

569
Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:09:03pm

re: #546 Birth Control Works

Some idiots’ prudishness knows no bounds. The parents should be fined for being a pair of dickheads.

570
Nyet  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:10:16pm

Between the calls Cruz enjoyed a sandwich with feces and glass shards.

571
gocart mozart  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:12:23pm
572
darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:12:56pm

re: #546 Birth Control Works

She’s been basically fired.

I guess we’ll have another round of desecration of major works of art as in the medieval ages.

I’m more offended by the Piet Mondrian neoplasticism behind her.

573
lawhawk  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:13:01pm

Meanwhile, video is starting to come out of Nassau:

Not good. Now imagine what it’s like in Haiti’s most affected region (Southwest area).

574
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:13:05pm

o_O

575
EPR-radar  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:13:52pm

re: #521 dangerman

they cant even agree on what the government *does* by completing a budget

It goes deeper than that. Democrats and Republicans no longer agree on even having a representative Federal government.

576
Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:15:08pm

re: #574 Backwoods_Sleuth

o_O

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BUT HILLARY HAS ADS ON THE WEATHER CHANNEL!1!!!

577
Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:15:25pm

re: #556 darthstar

Ted Cruz phone banking for the guy who insulted his wife and accused his father of conspiring to kill JFK.

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“Hi, my name is Ted Cruz and I’m looking for my dignity. It’s yellow, watery, and ran down my pants leg right around the time I endorsed Donald Trump.”

578
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:15:40pm
579
KerFuFFler  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:15:43pm

re: #555 Tigger2

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If democrats fought the way rightwingers do that picture would be circulated with the caption “Trump has heart attack and clutches chest while people around him keep him steady on his feet”.

580
Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:18:33pm

re: #563 Nyet

That will backfire massively.

581
Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:18:37pm

re: #571 gocart mozart

Thanks for posting that.

582
darthstar  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:19:15pm
583
Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:19:17pm

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is that for real for real?

584
austin_blue  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:19:32pm

re: #560 darthstar

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Nope nope nope.

That’s just terrifying.

585
makeitstop  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:22:41pm

re: #570 Nyet

Between the calls Cruz enjoyed a sandwich with feces and glass shards.

With a garnish of abject humiliation.

586
Timothy Watson  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:22:45pm

re: #583 Timothy Watson

Is that for real for real?

Apparently so:
gothamist.com

587
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:22:49pm

re: #583 Timothy Watson

Is that for real for real?

apparently.

588
Franklin  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:23:13pm

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

589
Shiplord Kirel  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:24:43pm

re: #546 Birth Control Works

She’s been basically fired.

I guess we’ll have another round of desecration of major works of art as in the medieval ages.

This kind of stuff drives me insane. It was ignorant and embarrassing 100 years ago. Today it is pathological.

590
makeitstop  Oct 6, 2016 • 12:25:04pm

re: #587 Backwoods_Sleuth

apparently.

Idiots - we got ‘em in NYC, too.

591
Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2016 • 1:18:44pm

re: #491 Dr Lizardo

LOL that is indeed a brilliant oblique reference. I honestly don’t know if that phrase, “….wouldn’t know shit from shinola” is even used any more.

I still hear it, but many people don’t know what it means. I tell them it refers to the fact that shinola goes on your shoes, shit doesn’t. Meaning some people aren’t even smart enough to walk around or over shit, but walk right through it.

592
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2016 • 1:40:48pm

re: #513 Dr Lizardo

It seems Halloween has officially arrived here in the Czech Republic.

Hallowe’en never left our part of Germany. It has been artificially re-introduced by the American GI’s and British/Irish pubs, but there are still a few isolated villages where the ancient Celtic tradition has endured as Klumpennacht, where kids dress up, carry (turnip) lanterns and go about the village collecting sweets calling out

Suesses, sonst gibts saures!

593
Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2016 • 1:48:58pm

re: #564 Nyet

To remind everyone that the moonman on the picture is basically a genocidal anti-black (and anti- many other things) symbol.

If they fly that in PA, it’s just going to screw Trump. Everyone will get a media explanation, and old Pittsburghers won’t like what they hear.


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