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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:48:33pm

Hey Charles,

This is the 2nd time this has happened.

In the last thread, the page errors out and reloads numerous times until you see the following (screenshot). It didn’t happen until last time I opened the page and I had been commenting throughout.

M2EsXUcstPCRnvm4MgiAMv5a0W9E2drR5/qK42DFNXGDQ3cmnQNb4oQAXDtApJAJ2KSitacdvXWEI6kiMxG52ltLSwrZtmvONdCeT44+HyrovKxGEH3RJaoVifbVxUbGy5jAWGzaaSZ78QRhPTVwdKjYA60tjHyi883i4z0wGtXfChSfpycM1nB7IVpZbHbCxw3JL1nXaa7vduv2pKluxW50OrPFHAQ4O8PcVYRsztMl3rNoslbrwq0aW42qJj9uls3j7CHT3q86Yn5SIqe4g1mTooG0tbiJLnOGn+Or727CFkBO/PIgI3zqrmejRoNhMu1uC+sAuYJMMHuQ1vbua2FmsSyhWwiUOiOS7VuBA+kmTfmqJ9WrM7ZO+vLNgy7vRpD5RmRt+EKlWtksnbxW2XQ0TYsZ9Q7om8nVL12heF4HMHeRFCtJ0VPevGUOLo3IsKV/g1yn9EY9zSjCeYm+aCz1A/qBQGMLvRKhm8PbRJ68WihJYafLXSa1p0W+FNzC0TZ5zFDQM8sSQYb+UnCzZbVQZz6imTgoqiWWgfUNyy0=

That’s a pic from the prior time this happened on.

I’m not sure if it’s the number of comments or an ad (even though I’m a paid subscriber) that’s causing the issue.

I’m on an iPhone 6s, latest iOS, tons of storage, and thought I’d mention it. I meant to do it before and spaced it.

FYI.

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Ubiq  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:51:59pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:54:26pm
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Kragar  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:55:43pm
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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:56:28pm

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Who on earth is driving there? Good god. I hope they’re ok.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:57:12pm

re: #5 MsJ

Who on earth is driving there? Good god. I hope they’re ok.

I reckon those were parked cars. Now known as leaky boats with wheels.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:58:27pm

re: #4 Kragar

Every time I read a HuffPo article, this cracks me up.

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 8:59:41pm

re: #6 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I reckon those were parked cars. Now known as leaky boats with wheels.

They were moving before the first surge. There was a third car that got away, at least out of the frame. I don’t think they were parked.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:01:10pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:01:27pm

re: #8 MsJ

They were moving before the first surge. There was a third car that got away, at least out of the frame. I don’t think they were parked.

I missed that. :-(

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:01:50pm

re: #7 MsJ

Every time I read a HuffPo article, this cracks me up.

Every article. Love it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:03:47pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

HuffPo has been doing that for months.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:05:21pm

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Storm surge

[Embedded content]

The folks in those cars are going to die. Holy shit.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:06:17pm

re: #13 Big Beautiful Door

The folks in those cars are going to die. Holy shit.

That was my exact same thought.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:06:46pm

re: #1 MsJ

Hey Charles,

This is the 2nd time this has happened.

In the last thread, the page errors out and reloads numerous times until you see the following (screenshot). It didn’t happen until last time I opened the page and I had been commenting throughout.

[Embedded content]

That’s a pic from the prior time this happened on.

I’m not sure if it’s the number of comments or an ad (even though I’m a paid subscriber) that’s causing the issue.

I’m on an iPhone 6s, latest iOS, tons of storage, and thought I’d mention it. I meant to do it before and spaced it.

FYI.

It’s almost certainly the fact that you’re on an iPhone and there are hundreds of comments in that thread. Even a fully loaded iPhone doesn’t deal with large web pages very well.

I recommend using the Spy mode on an iPhone instead - it uses much less memory and you can still follow and post comments.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:07:31pm

Games over, time for bed.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:07:46pm

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Doesn’t appear to be the US, though.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:07:51pm

I think NHC is being DDOSed.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:09:08pm

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Storm surge

[Embedded content]

Where is that from?

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:09:26pm

re: #18 Ziggy_TARDIS

I think NHC is being DDOSed.

I can reach the site fine.

Latest update at 00:00 EDT:

nhc.noaa.gov

HURRICANE MATTHEW TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142016
1200 AM EDT FRI OCT 07 2016

…12 AM EDT POSITION UPDATE…
…MATTHEW CONTINUES TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS

During the past hour, a wind gust of 55 mph (89 km/h) was reported
at Stuart, Florida, and a gust of 54 mph (87 km/h) has occurred at
Vero Beach, Florida.

SUMMARY OF 1200 AM EDT…0400 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————-
LOCATION…27.3N 79.4W
ABOUT 60 MI…100 KM ESE OF FT. PIERCE FLORIDA
ABOUT 105 MI…170 KM SE OF CAPE CANAVERAL FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…130 MPH…210 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NW OR 325 DEGREES AT 13 MPH…20 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…939 MB…27.73 INCHES

$$
Forecaster Stewart

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:09:52pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

It’s almost certainly the fact that you’re on an iPhone and there are hundreds of comments in that thread. Even a fully loaded iPhone doesn’t deal with large web pages very well.

I recommend using the Spy mode on an iPhone instead - it uses much less memory and you can still follow and post comments.

I’ve never been able to reply to anyone in Spy mode on my phone. Maybe I just don’t know how to do it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:09:52pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

Where is that from?

Unclear. Found it on Twitter with no location provided

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:11:40pm

re: #20 Anymouse

I’ve been trying and unable to.

Of course, if it is a DDOS, I think we all know who is responsible.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:11:56pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

Where is that from?

Did a little sleuthing. The video is from South Korea during Typhoon Chaba, not the east coast of Florida.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:13:15pm

re: #21 MsJ

I’ve never been able to reply to anyone in Spy mode on my phone. Maybe I just don’t know how to do it.

To get into Spy mode for a comment thread, click the magnifying glass icon either from the front page, or from an article page. When you do this you’ll see only the comments for that thread, and there will be a comment posting form at the top of the page. I use Spy mode all the time on my iPhone to post and read comments.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:14:08pm

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I want to say Cuba.

Because, it appears they are driving on our side of the road, but it is different in road markings.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:14:17pm

re: #23 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ve been trying and unable to.

Of course, if it is a DDOS, I think we all know who is responsible.

Well, I don’t know about a DDOS per se as I am having no trouble reaching the National Hurricane Center.

Around the world though people are interested in what is going on right now in the Bahamas and Florida; if there were an overload of traffic to the NHC I would more likely ascribe it to tens of millions of people around the world trying to get information at the same time.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:15:10pm

re: #26 Ziggy_TARDIS

Actually, I am hilariously Wrong.

Busan, South Korea, in the aftermath of Typhoon Chaba.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:16:18pm

re: #27 Anymouse

I have a low enough opinion of Russia that I could imagine them DDOSing the site in order to impede the dissemination of information and getting people killed.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:17:56pm

re: #29 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’d imagine it’ll be kind of hard to get information on the internet with no power. You’re being paranoid.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:18:20pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

Not much black volcanic rock in Florida.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:18:20pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Did a little sleuthing. The video is from South Korea during Typhoon Chaba, not the east coast of Florida.

Well THANK DOG it wasn’t Mar A Lago.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:18:25pm

re: #29 Ziggy_TARDIS

I have a low enough opinion of Russia that I could imagine them DDOSing the site in order to impede the dissemination of information and getting people killed.

Well, there are other ways of disseminating information anyway (television, radio, Twitter, Facebook, &c).

It’s still working fine for me:

000
WTNT44 KNHC 070257
TCDAT4

HURRICANE MATTHEW DISCUSSION NUMBER 36
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142016
1100 PM EDT THU OCT 06 2016

The satellite appearance of Matthew has improved during the past
several hours, with an eye embedded within a more circular central
dense overcast and an increase in the outer banding. Reports from
a NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft and coastal radar data show the
presence of centric eyewalls with diameters of about 8 and 60 n mi
respectively. The NOAA aircraft earlier reported a minimum pressure
of 937 mb, and an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter just reported
estimated surface winds of 109 kt from the SFMR and a pressure of
939 mb. Based on these data, the initial intensity is 115 kt.

The initial motion is 325/11 kt. For the next 24-48 hours, Matthew
should move around the western end of the subtropical ridge, with
the motion gradually turning northward and then northeastward.
During this time, the center of the guidance envelope and the
various consensus models have shifted a little to the east. However,
the ECMWF, GFS, and UKMET continue to suggest the possibility of the
hurricane making landfall in Florida and then moving near the coasts
of Georgia and South Carolina. This part of the forecast is nudged
a little to the east and lies between the model consensus and the
previous forecast. After 48 hours, a mid- to upper-level ridge is
forecast to build north and west of Matthew, and the track guidance
forecasts a southeasterly to southerly motion in response. While
there is still a large spread, the GFS, ECMWF, and UKMET are in
better agreement that Matthew should move south between the ridge
and Hurricane Nicole to the east. This part of the forecast follows
this guidance and lies between the GFS and ECMWF.

During the next 12-24 hours, Matthew will likely weaken a little as
it undergoes an eyewall replacement cycle. After that time, it is
expected to encounter strong southwesterly vertical shear, and later
in the forecast period dry air is likely to entrain into the
cyclone. This combination should cause steady weakening, and
Matthew is forecast to drop below hurricane strength by 72 hours.
The new intensity forecast is in best agreement with the SHIPS
model.

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Teukka  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:18:41pm

re: #29 Ziggy_TARDIS

I have a low enough opinion of Russia that I could imagine them DDOSing the site in order to impede the dissemination of information and getting people killed.

And I have a low enough opinion of conservatives that I could imagine them DDOSing the site because they don’t believe in GloBULL Warming and don’t want to hear about events such as this S.o.a.B. Matthew becoming a much more frequent event as a result of their denial…

[Edited grammar error due to hypocaffeinism]

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:19:55pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Did a little sleuthing. The video is from South Korea during Typhoon Chaba, not the east coast of Florida.

OK. Chaba is the storm that just hit the Korean peninsula this week.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:20:23pm

re: #34 Teukka

And I have a low enough opinion of conservatives that I could imagine them DDOSing the site because they don’t believe in GloBULL Warming and don’t want to hear about events such as this S.o.a.B. Matthew becoming a much more frequent event being results of their denial…

See Matt Drudge’s previous posts on that.

[rest redacted]

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:21:39pm

re: #36 Anymouse

Wingnuts. Can’t shoot ‘em.

No, you can’t. Don’t ever insinuate that again.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:22:48pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

No, you can’t. Don’t ever insinuate that again.

Agreed. Consider that an inappropriate remark, which I will remove. [Your quotation of my inappropriate remark remains though, so there is still a record of my poor statement.]

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:24:13pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

To get into Spy mode for a comment thread, click the magnifying glass icon either from the front page, or from an article page. When you do this you’ll see only the comments for that thread, and there will be a comment posting form at the top of the page. I use Spy mode all the time on my iPhone to post and read comments.

Oh yeah! I was in Spy for the site. I see it all now. Thanks!

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Lidane  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:24:51pm

Young Turks hipster douche writes hilariously naive rant, film at 11:

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:25:30pm
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Teukka  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:26:07pm

re: #36 Anymouse

See Matt Drudge’s previous posts on that.

Wingnuts. Can’t shoot ‘em. Can’t educate them.

Yeah. Only way they will learn is to have the results of their denial stare them unblinkingly in the face.
Only problem is that when the fecal matter has impacted the rotary air distribution apparatus sufficiently for that rare event to occur it will already have racked up a significant human cost.
It will take a Herculean effort from me not to go “Toldyaso.” or “You shat in your own bed. Fucking sleep in it!”

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:28:11pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:28:48pm

re: #40 Lidane

Young Turks hipster douche writes hilariously naive rant, film at 11:

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[Embedded content]

Yeeeeeah, won’t happen. Trump’s ego is so massive it has its own gravitational pull. There’s no way in Hell he will humble himself on Sunday and apologize for a damned thing. Why? Because his supporters would scream “CUCK!!!” in a red-hot minute and that would be the end of his campaign.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:29:36pm

My son just called, told me to look at Jacksonville radar. It looks like the first major slamdunk of a spiral band is about to sweep across Duval County in an hour or so:

weather.gov

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Kragar  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:31:15pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:31:56pm

re: #40 Lidane

I think he will shock America, but not in a way to help his chances recover.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:33:12pm

NHS still trying to warn NE Florida of the dangers of Hurricane Matthew:

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:42:21pm

The BBC is covering Hurricane Matthew with live updates.

bbc.com

Summary

At least 283 people have been killed in Haiti and four in the Dominican Republic
Matthew, a Category Four hurricane, could make landfall in Florida within hours
Florida Governor Rick Scott warned it’s a “monster” that could be deadly
Flooding could be severe in coastal areas of Florida, Georgia and South Carolina
North Carolina could also be affected as the storm moves north in days ahead

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retired cynic  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:43:58pm

Poor Haiti, poor people!

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:49:37pm

A South Carolina town is distributing the form below, asking those who refuse to evacuate to list their next-of-kin:

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:57:19pm

Fall pron!

Instagram

Wow. @aspensnowmass was beautiful this morning. Great photo of the Hunter Creek Valley from my pal @triplegs.

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retired cynic  Oct 6, 2016 • 9:57:55pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Bee-yoo-ti-full!

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:01:16pm

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Mother Nature is a child abuser.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:01:46pm

More fall pron!

Instagram

I love to get up to the mountains to see the first snow. It holds so much promise and excitement for the winter ahead. Who else feels me? #bigmtndreams

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:02:00pm

Well, g’night folks. My sliced-and-diced elbow from surgery needs a rest, and the drugs are making typing difficult. Time to shuffle off to bed.

Hopefully my son is in a good enough place to ride out Hurricane Matthew in Jacksonville - I suspect my worry will interfere with my sleep.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:04:09pm

There it is. I wanted to share with the Lizards Lindsey Vonn’s ensemble last night on Colbert.

Instagram

Had so much fun on the @colbertlateshow last night. Thanks for making me laugh as always Stephen! …And thanks for actually knowing the disciplines in my sport 🙌🏻#strongisthenewbeautiful

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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:08:44pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

Courtesy of Fark:

“Is this the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline? Yeah, it’s Ted again. I… Wait, aren’t you guys supposed to be trying to talk me out of it?”

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:10:05pm

Aright, here’s the ad. Sorry if the quality sucks but I had to record it off the TV with my Nikon and I don’t normally fuck with video.

HRC Daisy Spot

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:11:18pm

The Pound fell again today. It’s almost at par with the Euro.

£1.00 = $1.24 USD.

£1.00 = €1.11.

OUCH.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:13:01pm

C’mon America, pull this off without getting hurt!

Instagram

The bud @lorengriswold dropping in. FTW. He’s down in South America in search of big descents right now. Best of luck homes. #FreeheelLife #SpreadTelemark

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:13:54pm

re: #60 MsJ

As a reference point, when I was in London some years back, it was £1.00 = $1.64 USD.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:14:06pm

Someone is not happy with me.

I don’t know if you all can see the tweet that began this exchange. I can’t now, because she blocked me.

She was complaining that Royal Caribbean intended to set sail for the Bahamas, despite the storm, and wondered why Waffle House had closed their shops despite the storm.

She blocked me. I haz a sad.

She’s apparently out several thousand dollars for her cruise. That was her last tweet to me before the block.

Jeez. Some people got no sense of humor.

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:15:04pm

False beliefs about probability and the universe abound:

A Trump loss would ‘upset the verdict of history’: Allan Lichtman

[…]

However, I also noted that Donald Trump is such a dangerously precedent-breaking candidate that he could upset the verdict of history and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[…]

It takes a lot of hubris for Lichtman to state that his “13 keys” are the “verdict of history.”

Drumpfskind’s loss will illustrate that Lichtman’s 13 keys are just another example of correlation not being causation.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:17:47pm

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She’s very angry right now, her vacation on a huge floating hotel was ruined.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:18:48pm

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thought I’d chime in, too.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:18:51pm
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retired cynic  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:19:52pm

re: #67 Anymouse

Hah!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:20:27pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Did a little sleuthing. The video is from South Korea during Typhoon Chaba, not the east coast of Florida.

God—fuck the internet sometimes!

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:21:53pm

re: #69 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

God—fuck the internet sometimes!

Vigilance is key. Something I’ve learned reading LGF for over a decade.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:24:26pm

re: #66 MsJ

re: #65 teleskiguy

I’m sympathetic to her plight, but jeez lady it’s a major weather disaster. Royal Caribbean are not gods of the sea, for pete’s sake. They need to protect their ships.

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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:26:47pm

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Someone is not happy with me.

I don’t know if you all can see the tweet that began this exchange. I can’t now, because she blocked me.

She was complaining that Royal Caribbean intended to set sail for the Bahamas, despite the storm, and wondered why Waffle House had closed their shops despite the storm.

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

She’s apparently out several thousand dollars for her cruise. That was her last tweet to me before the block.

Jeez. Some people got no sense of humor.

Perhaps she’s never heard of the Waffle House Index.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:28:48pm

Honestly, I gotta wonder about people who get their panties all in a knot when a natural disaster forces a business to cancel or delay their plans. It’s all about meeeee!

What do you mean an earthquake/typhoon/hurricane destroyed your hotel? I had plans for that week! I demand my money back now!!

Your ship ran aground in Miami? So fucking what? Move that damn ship back to the water so I can take my cruise as planned — now!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:29:41pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

Perhaps she’s never heard of the Waffle House Index.

Funny thing is, I think she jumped into a thread about it, doing the same thing she bitched at me for doing.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:29:54pm
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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:30:36pm

re: #71 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m sympathetic to her plight, but jeez lady it’s a major weather disaster. Royal Caribbean are not gods of the sea, for pete’s sake. They need to protect their ships.

She could have gotten insurance that would have covered the whole kit and kaboodle of costs.

I get her pain and anger but ignorance doesn’t help (or garner much sympathy from me).

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:32:12pm

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Honestly, I gotta wonder about people who get their panties all in a knot when a natural disaster forces a business to cancel or delay their plans. It’s all about meeeee!

What do you mean an earthquake/typhoon/hurricane destroyed your hotel? I had plans for that week! I demand my money back now!!

Your ship ran aground in Miami? So fucking what? Move that damn ship back to the water so I can take my cruise as planned — now!

Seriously, let’s say she’s there un FL now. Does one really want to be in a ship at sea in a hurricane?

I’m putting up a huge NOPE.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:35:40pm

re: #77 MsJ

Especially in today’s top heavy, unstable cruise ships.

No way in hell. I wouldn’t go on an ocean cruise ship under any circumstance.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:38:29pm

re: #76 MsJ

She could have gotten insurance that would have covered the whole kit and kaboodle of costs.

I get her pain and anger but ignorance doesn’t help (or garner much sympathy from me).

Seriously. If I were dropping several grand on a cruise + airfare + hotel, I’d buy trip insurance. Shit happens.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:38:36pm

re: #77 MsJ

Seriously, let’s say she’s there un FL now. Does one really want to be in a ship at sea in a hurricane?

I’m putting up a huge NOPE.

Did that on the USS America. Even on a thousand foot long sihp riding in the centre of a hurricane, not fun.

While I can walk on bulkheads whilst eating a sandwich, a large portion of the crew spent much of the time hurling into whatever they could find.

That was unfun.

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:40:07pm

Looking at the questions at the Open Debates site, for this weekend’s show, it looks like guns ‘n social security are going to be the major topics.

We must be a very insecure people if our major cries are “don’t take away our guns” and “don’t take away our social security checks.”

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:40:13pm

re: #77 MsJ

If this woman is in Florida, she’s in Miami, which will experience some rather unpleasant blustery weather tomorrow, not near as bad as what the space coast will see. And she doesn’t see that. At. All. It’s all ME ME ME.

Instant gratification. Maybe that’ll be how technology destroys us.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:42:24pm

re: #80 Anymouse

Did that on the USS America. Even on a thousand foot long sihp riding in the centre of a hurricane, not fun.

While I can walk on bulkheads whilst eating a sandwich, a large portion of the crew spent much of the time hurling into whatever they could find.

That was unfun.

I’m not prone to motion sickness, but I’ve never been in a boat or ship in rough waters. Not sure if I should add that to my bucket list.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:42:52pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

If this woman is in Florida, she’s in Miami, which will experience some rather unpleasant blustery weather tomorrow, not near as bad as what the space coast will see. And she doesn’t see that. At. All. It’s all ME ME ME.

Instant gratification. Maybe that’ll be how technology destroys us.

I don’t think she’s in FL. That’s the problem, she can’t get to FL and the cruise is going on come hell or high water (no pun intended). Which is why she’s out the cruise costs…she can’t get there for the “fun”.

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:43:45pm
The town meeting participants will be uncommitted voters selected by the Gallup Organization.

For anyone to be “uncommitted” at this stage they have to be low-information voters or just wheeled out of a coma-room at the local hospital.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:44:15pm

re: #84 MsJ

Meh.

Moving Right Along…
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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:44:17pm

re: #83 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not prone to motion sickness, but I’ve never been in a boat or ship in rough waters. Not sure if I should add that to my bucket list.

My ex was on the USS JFK aircraft carrier and I went on a family cruise from VA to FL in calm seas and spent the time puking my guts up.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:44:42pm

re: #85 freetoken

For anyone to be “uncommitted” at this stage they have to be low-information voters or just wheeled out of a coma-room at the local hospital.

Or liars.

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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:44:44pm

re: #85 freetoken

For anyone to be “uncommitted” at this stage they have to be low-information voters or just wheeled out of a coma-room at the local hospital.

There’s a third possibility: They’re full of shit and have already made up their minds.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:45:24pm

re: #83 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not prone to motion sickness, but I’ve never been in a boat or ship in rough waters. Not sure if I should add that to my bucket list.

The better your sense of balance is the more likely you’ll get seasick. Those of us with hardly any vestibular balance, who depend on visual cues and feedback from our ankle muscles to stay upright are golden. No conflict with what our inner ear is telling us, which is basically nothing.

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:45:35pm

Let me quote the whole paragraph:

The second presidential debate will take the form of a town meeting, in which half of the questions will be posed directly by citizen participants and the other half will be posed by the moderator based on topics of broad public interest as reflected in social media and other sources. The candidates will have two minutes to respond and there will be an additional minute for the moderator to facilitate further discussion. The town meeting participants will be uncommitted voters selected by the Gallup Organization.

So the organizers don’t claim that the questions will come from that Open Debates site.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:45:47pm

Alrighty then. Headline at Shoebat. com

Behold The Wrath Of God: Mega Hurricane Matthew And Mega Famine To Follow Soon To Devastate The United States
By Walid Shoebat

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:45:58pm

re: #83 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not prone to motion sickness, but I’ve never been in a boat or ship in rough waters. Not sure if I should add that to my bucket list.

Oh, it is not to be missed. An aircraft carrier in heavy weather takes several seconds to roll from one side to the other. Add to that you are inside and cannot see the moving horizon, and your stomach goes all sideways because gravity pulls you one way then the other over several seconds or even a minute, but the bulkheads and overhead and deck all look like they are not moving.

On a small boat like a rowboat, you can see the horizon and the water and your brain can connect with what is happening.

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freetoken  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:47:11pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

Yes, dishonesty is the other option.

They might not even telling themselves the truth, much less to Gallup.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:47:31pm

re: #87 MsJ

My ex was on the USS JFK aircraft carrier and I went on a family cruise from VA to FL in calm seas and spent the time puking my guts up.

Hey! I was on the JFK too. Moreover, when it was decommissioned, my son was part of the ship breaking crew.

Most of my cruises were done on the JFK.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:48:23pm

re: #92 Dr. Lexus

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:48:54pm

re: #79 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Seriously. If I were dropping several grand on a cruise + airfare + hotel, I’d buy trip insurance. Shit happens.

That’s what we do.

It’s on my to do list to get taken care of for February’s trip this week. It’s maybe $150 for $3000 worth of coverage - well worth it for the peace of mind. Also covers emergency medical evacuation if necessary, depending on the policy and the country.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:49:36pm

re: #90 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The better your sense of balance is the more likely you’ll get seasick. Those of us with hardly any vestibular balance, who depend on visual cues and feedback from our ankle muscles to stay upright are golden. No conflict with what our inner ear is telling us, which is basically nothing.

My sense of balance is decent, but still I usually don’t get motion sickness, even in turbulent air or rocking stuffy trains. My boating experience has been limited to ferry rides and canoes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:50:53pm

re: #98 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My sense of balance is decent, but still I usually don’t get motion sickness, even in turbulent air or rocking stuffy trains. My boating experience has been limited to ferry rides and canoes.

I discovered on our last cruise that I do, in fact, get seasick.

Better to know, so I can prepare for the future. (Mostly felt it when crossing the Gulf Stream. Fresh air, laying down, and the chewable meds all helped.)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:51:07pm

re: #93 Anymouse

Oh, it is not to be missed. An aircraft carrier in heavy weather takes several seconds to roll from one side to the other. Add to that you are inside and cannot see the moving horizon, and your stomach goes all sideways because gravity pulls you one way then the other over several seconds or even a minute, but the bulkheads and overhead and deck all look like they are not moving.

On a small boat like a rowboat, you can see the horizon and the water and your brain can connect with what is happening.

OK. Yeah, I’ll pass on that.

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Anymouse  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:51:21pm

Well, I said I was off to bed. This time I really mean it. G’night y’all. If you’re in the Southeast, stay safe from the storm. Otherwise, just stay safe.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:52:55pm

re: #84 MsJ

I don’t think she’s in FL. That’s the problem, she can’t get to FL and the cruise is going on come hell or high water (no pun intended). Which is why she’s out the cruise costs…she can’t get there for the “fun”.

Going down in an airplane crash would be a lot less fun, IMO.

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fern01  Oct 6, 2016 • 10:54:33pm

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Someone is not happy with me.

I don’t know if you all can see the tweet that began this exchange. I can’t now, because she blocked me.

She was complaining that Royal Caribbean intended to set sail for the Bahamas, despite the storm, and wondered why Waffle House had closed their shops despite the storm.

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She’s apparently out several thousand dollars for her cruise. That was her last tweet to me before the block.

Jeez. Some people got no sense of humor.

Some people also probably got no travel insurance

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:01:05pm

re: #98 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My sense of balance is decent, but still I usually don’t get motion sickness, even in turbulent air or rocking stuffy trains. My boating experience has been limited to ferry rides and canoes.

I ralph just thinking about it. 😳

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:05:39pm

re: #102 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Going down in an airplane crash would be a lot less fun, IMO.

Yeah, the whole damned concept from bouncing in an airplane 30k feet in the air to bouncing in 20’ waves at sea…NOPE.

I was on a flight that was so bad I thought for sure we were going to crash. From Detroit to Chicago we diverted to Kalamazoo for 6 hours for the storm to pass. I’ve never been so terrified in my life. The plane sounded like it was going to break into pieces.

I wouldn’t think of flying in that again. NOPE. keep my money. I’ll hang onto my life.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:09:23pm

I’ve ridden fishing boats, canoes, rafts, tubes, speedboats, jetskis, and ferries. I’m also an expert telemark skier. Motion sickness is a total non-factor with me. I have a highly trained cerebellum.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:14:55pm

re: #105 MsJ

Yeah, the whole damned concept from bouncing in an airplane 30k feet in the air to bouncing in 20’ waves at sea…NOPE.

I was on a flight that was so bad I thought for sure we were going to crash. From Detroit to Chicago we diverted to Kalamazoo for 6 hours for the storm to pass. I’ve never been so terrified in my life. The plane sounded like it was going to break into pieces.

I wouldn’t think of flying in that again. NOPE. keep my money. I’ll hang onto my life.

In all my flying experiences, I’ve had only two really bad turbulence incidents. One was years ago somewhere in the USA. The other was on a flight from China to the States with a friend who had never flown ever. I stayed calm, the crew stayed calm, so she stayed calm, too. Happened right during meal service time, so the crew couldn’t even strap into their jumpseats. They had to stay with the carts by crouching down and hanging on.

Planes are designed to cope with turbulence, and flight crews are trained for it. I don’t worry about it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:17:44pm

Trumpistas are worried that the RNC is sabotaging their hero’s chances of winning, so they’ve started a GOTV campaign hashtagged #MAGA3X — register three voters for Trump.

A bit late for that, I thinks.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:40:23pm

re: #108 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trumpistas are worried that the RNC is sabotaging their hero’s chances of winning, so they’ve started a GOTV campaign hashtagged #MAGA3X — register three voters for Trump.

A bit late for that, I thinks.

From your keyboard to gods ears!

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Kragar  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:44:22pm
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:46:11pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

I’ve ridden fishing boats, canoes, rafts, tubes, speedboats, jetskis, and ferries. I’m also an expert telemark skier. Motion sickness is a total non-factor with me. I have a highly trained cerebellum.

I can stand the motion at sea, but after a few weeks of that it’s the return to land that gets me sick. I swear the ground moves all over the place. I bounce off the walls in a shower stall and come very close to puking when I first get back on land.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:47:07pm

Still alive in Northern Florida.
Cheap camera and lights from across the river @ the container & fuel port are preventing me from getting any usable pics of current St. Johns river levels, which is similar to what was seen in the afternoon.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:47:28pm

re: #110 Kragar

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:50:37pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

It’s a cunning plan.

Our chief weapon is surprise … surprise and fear. Our two chief weapons are surprise, fear and …

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Kragar  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:54:03pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:54:18pm

It’s impossible to survey, but I would like to know—through telepathy, maybe—out of the crowds at a Clinton rally and a Trump rally, what percentage of each are registered. Or know how to register. Or know you have to register…Trump’s own fucking kids didn’t know!

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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2016 • 11:57:27pm

I strongly suspect that, once the dust settles, we’re gonna find out that just like Sanders, Trump’s total lack of focus on registration and GOTV because he thought his rallies were enough leads to hilariously lop-sided turnout.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 12:03:14am

re: #117 Targetpractice

I strongly suspect that, once the dust settles, we’re gonna find out that just like Sanders, Trump’s total lack of focus on registration and GOTV because he thought his rallies were enough leads to hilariously lop-sided turnout.

And he’ll blame in on a rigged election, voter fraud, etc.

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Jayleia  Oct 7, 2016 • 12:05:33am

re: #117 Targetpractice

I strongly suspect that, once the dust settles, we’re gonna find out that just like Sanders, Trump’s total lack of focus on registration and GOTV because he thought his rallies were enough leads to hilariously lop-sided turnout.

WE will find that out, THEY will find out that buses full of zombie illegal immigrants used hacked voting machines to vote multiple times at dozens of different precincts (did I get all the conspiracies in one? I think I missed some…)

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 12:06:30am

re: #117 Targetpractice

I strongly suspect that, once the dust settles, we’re gonna find out that just like Sanders, Trump’s total lack of focus on registration and GOTV because he thought his rallies were enough leads to hilariously lop-sided turnout.

I think it’ll be worse, because of the difference in the proportional delegate count of the Dem primary system vs the all-or-nothing (except for NE & ME) nature of the Electoral College. Sanders ended up with a much greater percentage of delegates than his share of the popular vote would entitle him to, superdelegates notwithstanding. The EC percentage gap between Hillary and Trump OTOH will probably be around twice the popular vote difference.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 12:34:42am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 1:02:39am

HAHAHAHAHA!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 1:33:51am

re: #122 goddamnedfrank

HAHAHAHAHA!

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Makes me wish someone could rig up a wind machine to fool with his hairdo. He’d lose his cool in no time.

The man is vain.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 1:36:07am

When you’ve lost Max Lucado …

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Alyosha  Oct 7, 2016 • 1:48:09am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 1:51:38am

Old news, but Mark Cuban just tweeted this link about FinCen’s rebuke of TrumpTaj Mahal and the $10M penalty the feds levied on it for failing to observe Anti Money Laundering (AML) regulations.

fincen.gov

Makes me wonder if Trump’s associations with Russian businessmen might have some connection here. There’s also his long acquaintances with mobsters in NY and NJ.

Just askin’ questions, y’know.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 7, 2016 • 2:06:29am

re: #125 Alyosha

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 2:11:56am

Some commercial flying nostalgia: Cathay Pacific flies its last Boeing 747 route. Along with many other airlines worldwide, Cathay is replacing its 747s with more fuel efficient and quieter models.

scmp.com

I think I flew in my last 747 last year, flying United from Shanghai to Chicago. It had been 30 years since I had last been in one.

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Alyosha  Oct 7, 2016 • 2:45:55am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 3:42:53am

I’m so tired of the New York Times’ weaksauce bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 3:54:45am

107mph wind gusts at Cape Canaveral right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 3:57:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:00:47am

Part of the group MrBWS is with, heading out this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:02:26am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Part of the group MrBWS is with, heading out this morning.

more:

@DukeEnergy crews are heading out soon to help out in FL. #hurricanematthew

MrBWS isn’t a Duke employee, but works for a Duke contractor.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:15:47am

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

Imma use this again:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:19:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:20:13am

My sister in Ormond Beach is still has power but says the wind is fierce.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:21:53am

Off they go! @DukeEnergy on their way to help out with outages from #HurricaneMatthew @Local12

Now *I* start to worry.
;)

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:28:39am

re: #80 Anymouse

During WWII, the USN’s TF 38 sailed into a typhoon - bad data and Bull Halsey’s bad decision.

Several ships capsized. Multiple light carriers were damaged, their open bow design with gun tubs for AA protection meant that waves were able to damage the bow deck. After that experience, future US carriers were redesigned or upgraded to enclosed - hurricane - bows.

Halsey had a second encounter with a different typhoon with similar results - damage to multiple ships and loss of planes on several carriers. He was able to ultimately retire as a fleet admiral after the war. Nimitz intervened on his behalf.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:31:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:38:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:43:09am

Sister’s power is out now.
Transformer outside the house just exploded.

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Ming5000  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:44:15am

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is it macabre to wonder where Juno Beach is when I look at these maps?

(those idiots)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:47:49am

re: #143 Ming5000

Is it macabre to wonder where Juno Beach is when I look at these maps?

(those idiots)

Palm Beach County.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:48:14am
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Ming5000  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:53:02am

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, it looks like Palm Beach County lucked out. Relatively.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:58:21am

re: #146 Ming5000

Oh, it looks like Palm Beach County lucked out. Relatively.

That was his last tweet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 4:59:04am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:00:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:01:15am

sigh

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:08:43am

re: #124 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

When you’ve lost Max Lucado …

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:09:29am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The weather here is fine, but it’s the opposite over in Florida, where Matthew has been churning along the coast for hours, and it’s going to continue pounding the coast throughout the day.

A lot of people who chose to stay in their homes during the storm will be having second thoughts as they watch the storm surge and winds batter their homes and neighborhoods. There’s a reason that local, county, and state officials warned for people to evacuate to higher ground inland. It’s no joke, and the more people remain, the more it stresses local emergency responders who have to go and rescue these folks when the situation becomes dire (if they can even get to these folks in time).

As a bunch of reporters note, after Hurricane Andrew, Florida instituted new stronger building codes. But that doesn’t mean all structures are hurricane-ready. Buildings and structures built before the revised building codes were instituted are far more vulnerable. They lack tie-downs/hurricane straps that are meant to keep the roof in place when threatened by hurricane force winds. They lack the kind of structural protections unless they’ve been retrofitted.

Andrew hit south of Miami; this storm is hitting well to the north and up into Georgia and South Carolina.

Storm surge remains the big threat, with wind and flooding rains become the secondary and tertiary threats. Any of them can result in deadly conditions.

Meanwhile, the death toll in Haiti continues climbing. It’s over 300 at this point.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:10:04am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That was his last tweet.

We may get lucky and find out that Vanilla Ice meets Vanilla Christ…

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:10:56am

Trump twits can’t even get their slurs straight.

Mind you, I found her performance as a debate moderator wanting. She quickly lost control of the debate, and couldn’t get either Pence or Kaine to address the questions posed. Kaine interrrupted her more, but Pence ignored all attempts by anyone to answer any direct questions - questions that go to his relationship with Trump, reality, or facts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:13:30am

Sis has the generator up and running now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:14:46am
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MsJ  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:20:16am

Ron White used to say (about hurricanes):

It’s not that the wind blows, it’s what the wind blows.

Too many people forget that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:21:07am

Looks like the seagulls are still in the eye:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:21:49am

re: #152 lawhawk

As a bunch of reporters note, after Hurricane Andrew, Florida instituted new stronger building codes. But that doesn’t mean all structures are hurricane-ready. Buildings and structures built before the revised building codes were instituted are far more vulnerable. They lack tie-downs/hurricane straps that are meant to keep the roof in place when threatened by hurricane force winds. They lack the kind of structural protections unless they’ve been retrofitted.

I remember This Old House years ago when they renovated an older house in Hawaii. The roof was kind of a reverse-mansard design—shallower pitch on the bottom and steeper on top, like a Pizza Hut. Apparently this is to kill lift. The outside walls were just plywood, nailed to the outside of the floor plate. “How does that even hold the roof up?” “Holding the roof up isn’t the prime consideration around here—it’s holding it down.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:35:40am

Dim Jim never quits being dim.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:36:45am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Dim Jim never quits being dim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:36:52am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Dim Jim never quits being dim.

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And infowars is breathlessly warning about BLM preparing a massive looting operation.

these people… *spit*

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:37:40am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Dim Jim never quits being dim.

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And what did the Department of Commerce do to piss him off?

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:38:36am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Dim Jim never quits being dim.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:38:39am

re: #163 Timothy Watson

And what did the Department of Commerce do to piss him off?

Its job.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:39:41am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

And infowars is breathlessly warning about BLM preparing a massive looting operation.

these people… *spit*

Well, sure. Why else would the feds advise people to evacuate their homes? //

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:41:59am

There are even more blue/bluish states than before!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:45:12am

Merritt Island:

Just watched hurricane Matthew blow up my power line

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:47:34am

The NOAA and NHC are warning about the worst case scenarios, where if the storm wobbles just slightly to the west, the coast gets the brunt of the strongest winds (which are in the NE quadrant of hurricanes. This is basic stuff really.

As much as the models predict the storm course and help predict storm intensity, the storm is a natural system that can wobble and move in micro terms (out to sea by a few miles) - even as the model does well in the trend (the coast-hugging).

Emergency prep has to take the worst case scenario into consideration. It’s what they do. Preserving and protecting lives and all that.

But these asshats think that this is politicized. If the NHC got the track wrong and it slammed ashore and pulled a Shep Smith track - we’d be talking about catastrophic damage up and down the Florida coast, they’d be the first demanding heads that they got the track wrong and seeking Obama’s impeachment.

Reality is that the NHC does a difficult job of tracking storms well. It takes the data available to it and provides good guidance for govt officials to make their preparations and informing the public about the nature of the threat.

If people stayed in their homes all along the coast, and this storm’s track wobbled west just a bit, we’d be talking mass casualties. Thankfully thus far, we’re not hearing that is the case.

But the storm still has another day of slamming the FL, GA, and SC coast before turning out to sea.

Politicizing natural disasters? Think these guys have Obama mixed up with GWB, whose politicized decisions in choosing an unqualified person to head FEMA had dire consequences. That’s even as the NHC warned of catastrophic damage likelihood.

Then again, we’re talking about a GOP that thinks that Obama was in charge during Katrina too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:48:13am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Merritt Island:

Damn, that looks like in The Money Pit, where they apparently thought wires are like primacord inside the wall. Once the circuit’s broken, how does it keep sparking like that?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:53:11am

re: #170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Damn, that looks like in The Money Pit, where they apparently thought wires are like primacord inside the wall. Once the circuit’s broken, how does it keep sparking like that?

Circuit wasn’t broken yet. Sometimes it goes on for a while. That’s why the rule is to assume that all downed power lines are still live.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:54:37am

re: #170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Damn, that looks like in The Money Pit, where they apparently thought wires are like primacord inside the wall. Once the circuit’s broken, how does it keep sparking like that?

I’m guessing the two adjacent power lines are hitting each other, making those sparks. One is hot and the other neutral, so we’re seeing short circuits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:55:19am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

Circuit wasn’t broken yet. Sometimes it goes on for a while. That’s why the rule is to assume that all downed power lines are still live.

Also, maybe it’s just me, but if I see that happening outside my house I’m running to switch off the main breaker in my house.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:55:46am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

Circuit wasn’t broken yet. Sometimes it goes on for a while. That’s why the rule is to assume that all downed power lines are still live.

Yup. And power lines often carry more voltage than the wires in your house.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:55:59am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 5:56:40am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, maybe it’s just me, but if I see that happening outside my house I’m running to switch off the main breaker in my house.

Always a wise move in a storm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:02:13am

re: #176 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Always a wise move in a storm.

A tornado hit about 5 miles away a few years ago. I didn’t get to the breaker in time and the power surge traveled down the line and set my electric stove on fire.
Lessons learned.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:06:26am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

A tornado hit about 5 miles away a few years ago. I didn’t get to the breaker in time and the power surge traveled down the line and set my electric stove on fire.
Lessons learned.

Years ago, a storm sent a power surge into my house, and made the magic smoke leave my TV set.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:09:24am

3D views of Hurricane #Matthew show the storm as it weakened to Category 3 status last night.

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jeffreyw  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:10:25am

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Good morning!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:14:06am

re: #167 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There are even more blue/bluish states than before!

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If Hillary wins every state in any shade of blue on that map, plus that one EV in Nebraska, that’s 359-179. FWIW, that’s my prediction, barring some disaster.

It’s not impossible Johnson might pull enough votes to deny Trump a small state or two—I’ve got my eye on Montana or South Dakota….

Of course, this 538 map is based on a 6.2% lead for Clinton. If that turns out to be over 3% pessimistic—like last time—all bets are off.

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Teukka  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:15:47am

So… This mornings challenge to you lizardim… Which huffpost arkle did this gem appear in?
Image: 2016-07-17-1468794651-6651165-cmrubinworld_OlliMikaelRundgren_5500.jpg

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:16:03am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Years ago, a storm sent a power surge into my house, and made the magic smoke leave my TV set.

I had to replace a hard drive a couple years ago after the power flashed on and off about 20 times in a 15 seconds.

Thankfully, it was still under warranty through Western Digital and they shipped one to me prior to me sending the one that was failing SMART checks to them (made shipping it to them easier since I had the anti-static bag and box from the new one).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:16:04am

Sis says at least four trees just fell in her yard and most likely took her car with them…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:23:06am

Cuteness!

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Semper Fi  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:23:53am

re: #180 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Jeffrey, you put frosting on your meatloaf??

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:27:45am

re: #186 Semper Fi

Jeffrey, you put frosting on your meatloaf??

The mashed potatoes look kind of runny. Frosted meat loaf.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:27:57am

and…Gary Richrath solo! Since I’m from downstate east central Illinois, my friends are apt to FB post REO’s “Riding the Storm Out” whenever there’s a cataclysmic meteorological event. We all kinda made fun of REO in later years, forgetting how great they could be.

ETA: the core of REO was from the Champaign-Urbana area, that’s why the FB friends post REO.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:33:31am

re: #181 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If Hillary wins every state in any shade of blue on that map, plus that one EV in Nebraska, that’s 359-179. FWIW, that’s my prediction, barring some disaster.

It’s not impossible Johnson might pull enough votes to deny Trump a small state or two—I’ve got my eye on Montana or South Dakota….

Of course, this 538 map is based on a 6.2% lead for Clinton. If that turns out to be over 3% pessimistic—like last time—all bets are off.

And a debate coming up. Is Sunday’s debate a 90-minute one? That might be a bit much for low-energy Trump, who has tiny hands, and has problems with mics.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:34:15am

So, FL Gov Scott’s presser is underway:

Key takeaway thus far - 600k without power.

Oh, and news reports suggesting that price gouging is being spotted in Florida at some gas stations and hotels/motels.

Meanwhile, video from Cuba shows widespread damage and devastation on par with the damage seen thus far from Haiti.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:36:20am

re: #189 Sir John Barron

And a debate coming up. Is Sunday’s debate a 90-minute one? That might be a bit much for low-energy Trump, who has tiny hands, and has problems with mics.

One-on-one interaction with a live audience is going to be a disaster for him, whereas that’s absolutely Hillary’s best thing. I expect a total meltdown.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:41:48am
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sagehen  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:42:34am

re: #57 teleskiguy

There it is. I wanted to share with the Lizards Lindsey Vonn’s ensemble last night on Colbert.

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And the shirt was sparkly!! Nice light effects when she moved.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:46:35am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

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Never used Ford’s system, but I love how Chevrolet’s won’t work with an Android phone over USB.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:50:34am

sigh…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:52:13am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh…

I really thought the Brits were better than this. Jesus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:52:21am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:53:08am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:57:30am

re: #191 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One-on-one interaction with a live audience is going to be a disaster for him, whereas that’s absolutely Hillary’s best thing. I expect a total meltdown.

Half expecting he’ll just walk off the stage half way through. He and his bots will complain the questions were mean, the moderator unfair, the mics screwed up, etc.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:58:10am

Still alive in Jacksonville.
Pleasantly full from a hearty breakfast of cheesy eggs, bacon, biscuits & fries (last meal? LOL)
Caught a break this AM, rain wasn’t to bad for the beast’s walk.
Positive is that after walking the dogs in the rain for the past two days is that their fur is now quite clean from all the toweling down.
Water on the St. John is about a foot lower than yesterday afternoon ( littlegreenfootballs.com ) , but getting some up-river wave action.
View is SW, L-upriver, R- ~15 miles to Atlantic

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 6:58:20am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

NEW: Trump this morning says US govt is allowing illegal immigrants into country “so they can go and vote.”

citation needed, please, Mr. Trump.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:00:49am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

I have a 2013 Fiesta. It’s old enough the screen is two color and is just an advanced radio with phone interaction and voice commands. I’d give it a B, but I haven’t attempted to use every feature. I do like being able to call via voice commands.

That’s what Ford gets for going first. //

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Franklin  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:04:30am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My evergreen gif:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:05:39am

re: #199 Sir John Barron

Half expecting he’ll just walk off the stage half way through. He and his bots will complain the questions were mean, the moderator unfair, the mics screwed up, etc.

Plus, for all the crap about “Sick Hillary”, can he stand up without leaning against a podium for any length of time? If so, I’ve never seen it. Getting off the stage with the proles is not going to go well for him.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:05:42am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

I really thought the Brits were better than this. Jesus.

I’m sure most are. But a young English person I met recently (whose grandparents fled the Nazis from Poland) said things are uncomfortable and that even some of her friends are casually calling refugees “rape-u-gees.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:05:45am

re: #202 Belafon

I have a 2013 Fiesta. It’s old enough the screen is two color and is just an advanced radio with phone interaction and voice commands. I’d give it a B, but I haven’t attempted to use every feature. I do like being able to call via voice commands.

That’s what Ford gets for going first. //

That’s not a MyTouch, that’s just the standard SYNC screen for pairing your phone and playback devices.

I’m pretty happy with the MyTouch in my vehicle, my only complaint is that the USB port sometimes drops the MP3 player.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:06:20am

re: #191 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One-on-one interaction with a live audience is going to be a disaster for him, whereas that’s absolutely Hillary’s best thing. I expect a total meltdown.

Mmmmm… maybe. Is it Anderson Cooper choosing the questions? Or Cory Lewandowski?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:07:40am

For all of you this Friday Morning:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:08:26am

re: #207 sagehen

Mmmmm… maybe. Is it Anderson Cooper choosing the questions? Or Cory Lewandowski?

The audience is supposedly “undecided voters”, you know—morons. Half of the questions are supposed to be spontaneous.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:08:31am

re: #190 lawhawk

Scott came across as very mechanical, as usual. (Maybe they can fix that on the next model) Didn’t watch the previous presser from NC, but listened while I cooked breakfast. NC Gov was much better, made you want to listen. Scott droned on, had to fight myself from tuning him out.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:08:36am

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure most are. But a young English person I met recently (whose grandparents fled the Nazis from Poland) said things are uncomfortable and that even some of her friends are casually calling refugees “rape-u-gees.”

Yeah my cousin lives over there. Fucking Farrage as well as the BNP fanning the flames of hate.

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MsJ  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:08:39am

re: #208 Birth Control Works

For all of you this Friday Morning:

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Yum! I want. I want bad! Mmmmmm!!

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:12:00am

Heh:

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:12:39am

In case you haven’t seen it - the Daily Show sends a reporter to Chinatown in response to that idiotic Fox News piece O’Reilly did.

It’s deservedly brutal.

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stpaulbear  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:13:09am

re: #93 Anymouse

Oh, it is not to be missed. An aircraft carrier in heavy weather takes several seconds to roll from one side to the other. Add to that you are inside and cannot see the moving horizon, and your stomach goes all sideways because gravity pulls you one way then the other over several seconds or even a minute, but the bulkheads and overhead and deck all look like they are not moving.

On a small boat like a rowboat, you can see the horizon and the water and your brain can connect with what is happening.

I can barely stand flying unless I can sit next to a window and see the ground. I’d be toast on a cruize ship.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:13:11am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Yeah my cousin lives over there. Fucking Farrage as well as the BNP fanning the flames of hate.

Yep. Makes me think of an interview this morning on NPR. Steve Inskeep went to a church in an impoverished area of Cincinnati to talk about the political landscape. The African American minister said that he couldn’t countenance a Trump victory, but regardless of who wins “an evil is being born in this country.” I think he summed up a broader trend that extends across Europe.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:13:17am

re: #209 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The audience is supposedly “undecided voters”, you know—morons. Half of the questions are supposed to be spontaneous.

They’re not “spontaneous”. There’s a handout at each seat for people to write what their question would be, and somebody associated with the debate producers picks through them and tells the moderators who to call on.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:14:16am

re: #217 sagehen

They’re not “spontaneous”. There’s a handout at each seat for people to write what their question would be, and somebody associated with the debate producers picks through them and tells the moderators who to call on.

Now, if they would then combust….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:15:10am

re: #216 Barefoot Grin

Yep. Makes me think of an interview this morning on NPR. Steve Inskeep went to a church in an impoverished area of Cincinnati to talk about the political landscape. The African American minister said that he couldn’t countenance a Trump victory, but regardless of who wins “an evil is being born in this country.” I think he summed up a broader trend that extends across Europe.

What’s really scary to me as a millenial is how much this stuff is rising among people in my generation. We unfortunately have just as many hateful assholes as our parents and grandparents generation.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:16:13am

re: #216 Barefoot Grin

Yep. Makes me think of an interview this morning on NPR. Steve Inskeep went to a church in an impoverished area of Cincinnati to talk about the political landscape. The African American minister said that he couldn’t countenance a Trump victory, but regardless of who wins “an evil is being born in this country.” I think he summed up a broader trend that extends across Europe.

It’s the return of ethnocentric nationalism, which was pretty much discredited as an ideology after World War Two. Like any ideology, it never really went away, it just went underground. Sooner or later, such intellectual sewage inevitably bubbles up to the surface.

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MsJ  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:16:18am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Yeah my cousin lives over there. Fucking Farrage as well as the BNP fanning the flames of hate.

Oy.

Only a failed Brexit can save Ukip now

Douglas Carswell and Mark Reckless had defected, with the former particularly believing Ukip had to head in a different direction and essentially rebrand to deliver Brexit success. Stymying the dogmatic rhetoric that characterised the party was regarded as key to neutralising the negativity of the leave campaign.

Meanwhile down in Thanet, Farage and his advisers had a contrasting approach. With a slightly more alt-right flavour, and no doubt with their own calculated reasons to do so, a very different type of messaging and relationship with the media was being pursued.

With the central uniting factor, the heart of the party, now ripped out, Ukip paradoxically has to rely on Brexit failing in order to maintain relevance. Its greatest risk now is that in trying to save itself, it actually has to feed off the idea that Brexit won’t be delivered, potentially hampering the progress of the very cause it was founded to deliver.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:16:52am

Trump’s brought out the white nationalists in force. They’re now bold enough to run ads on behalf of Trump.

Yeah, Trump is indeed deplorable. And bigoted. Just like his two sons.

And I still wonder if either Eric or Donny Jr is actually the one behind Donald’s bigoted twitter feed, since they share common writing habits - namely quote tweeting instead of using the actual RT feature.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:19:33am

re: #221 MsJ

Oy.

Only a failed Brexit can save Ukip now

I have to agree. Brexit was UKIP’s raison d’etre, and now that’s gone. They simply have nothing to campaign on, so they can either surreptitiously work to see that Brexit actually fails, or they’ll have to find another cause to glom on to for the party to continue to exist.

Victims of their own success, such as it were.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:20:10am

donald hasn’t tweeted anything since the VP debate.
All the tweets since then are via the iPhone, which is campaign staff. He is the tweets via android.

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Franklin  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:20:11am

re: #214 makeitstop

In case you haven’t seen it - the Daily Show sends a reporter to Chinatown in response to that idiotic Fox News piece O’Reilly did.

It’s deservedly brutal.

That was the best 5 minutes I’ve spent on the internet in a few months. Well worth the view.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:20:24am

re: #221 MsJ

Oy.

Only a failed Brexit can save Ukip now

Yeah yikes. My cousin already voted absentee for Clinton. She’s been telling us about Trump’s hijinks in Scotland for years where her in laws live.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:20:54am

Ok, how do I get rid of the freakin’ artboard in PS Creative Cloud and go back to the regular workspace. I’ve been thru the tutorial and google searches and can’t seem to find it.

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ozharas  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:21:10am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

26% of doctors in the UK are foreign nationals - that’s hardly going to improve health services, when they all start leaving.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:22:22am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:24:21am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:24:51am

re: #215 stpaulbear

I can barely stand flying unless I can sit next to a window and see the ground. I’d be toast on a cruize ship.

I’m the same way. If I’m in an aisle seat and someone closes the window shade, I’m practically hyperventilating until I get off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:25:10am

we kinda already figured this out, donald…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:25:48am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

we kinda already figured this out, donald…

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Yeah doesn’t take a genius to realize that’s what he does.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:26:59am

bbl

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:27:33am

not all evangelicals are for trump. electoral-vote.com

It’s a pretty effective reminder that it really isn’t the Christian religion that leads to the choice of Donald Trump. It’s pure politics, even when we’re led to believe otherwise

here’s the petition

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:27:33am

SMOTI retweeted the FoxNews “research” tweet:

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:27:41am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

What’s really scary to me as a millenial is how much this stuff is rising among people in my generation. We unfortunately have just as many hateful assholes as our parents and grandparents generation.

I worry, too. I’m in regular contact with millennials. Most of them seem very progressive on things like SSM, transgender issues, and even race. But I’m aware that out of ten, probably 3 or 4 are quietly seething about something like the men’s rights agenda (sic) or the small trickle of refugees arriving here, etc. Nearly all of them are stressed out over tuition, loans, and the perception that they are entitled to make over $60K upon graduation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:28:22am

heh

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MsJ  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:28:38am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

I have to agree. Brexit was UKIP’s raison d’etre, and now that’s gone. They simply have nothing to campaign on, so they can either surreptitiously work to see that Brexit actually fails, or they’ll have to find another cause to glom on to for the party to continue to exist.

Victims of their own success, such as it were.

And the pound is down another penny today.

This is what Trump touted in MS a few months ago…shooting ourselves in the face.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:29:02am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:29:08am

re: #237 Barefoot Grin

I worry, too. I’m in regular contact with millennials. Most of them seem very progressive on things like SSM, transgender issues, and even race. But I’m aware that out of ten, probably 3 or 4 are quietly seething about something like the men’s rights agenda (sic) or the small trickle of refugees arriving here, etc. Nearly all of them are stressed out over tuition, loans, and the perception that they are entitled to make over $60K upon graduation.

Yep.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:29:22am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

It’s the return of ethnocentric nationalism, which was pretty much discredited as an ideology after World War Two. Like any ideology, it never really went away, it just went underground. Sooner or later, such intellectual sewage inevitably bubbles up to the surface.

Yes, I was wondering. You and Wendell are uniquely able to witness this as it has been emerging over the last couple of decades and now beginning to blossom. But as you say, the Balkan wars should remind that it never goes away.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:29:45am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

we kinda already figured this out, donald…

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Behold the candidate preferred by most white people (for the record, I’m also white).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:29:55am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like Nicola and the SNP.

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stpaulbear  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:30:02am

re: #139 lawhawk

During WWII, the USN’s TF 38 sailed into a typhoon - bad data and Bull Halsey’s bad decision.

Several ships capsized. Multiple light carriers were damaged, their open bow design with gun tubs for AA protection meant that waves were able to damage the bow deck. After that experience, future US carriers were redesigned or upgraded to enclosed - hurricane - bows.

Halsey had a second encounter with a different typhoon with similar results - damage to multiple ships and loss of planes on several carriers. He was able to ultimately retire as a fleet admiral after the war. Nimitz intervened on his behalf.

My dad barely talked about his time in the Navy during WW2, but one of his stories was about the idiotic decision to sail through a Typhoon. His ship was knocked fully onto it’s side but somehow another wave caught the ship and set it upright again.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:30:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:32:51am
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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:34:02am

re: #245 stpaulbear

As the great fictional Marko Ramius once stated… Halsey acted stupidly.

His stupidity cost men their lives. Instead of seeking shelter at Ulithi Atoll, they steamed right into harm’s way - the heart of the storm.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:34:31am

OFFS!

Christian Times publishes falsified evidence of alleged electoral fraud plot

Seriously, as they say, read the whole thing. Via PZ’s place this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:38:11am

hurricane side effects:

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Teukka  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:38:42am

re: #249 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OFFS!

Christian Times publishes falsified evidence of alleged electoral fraud plot

Seriously, as they say, read the whole thing. Via PZ’s place this morning.

DAFUQ?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:41:08am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:42:49am

He seems to be losing it.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:43:59am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

He seems to be losing it.

Assumes facts not in evidence - that he ever “had it”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:45:22am

re: #254 lawhawk

Assumes facts not in evidence - that he ever “had it”.

Ha, true.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:45:58am

@eclecticbrotha was mixing it up with a Trumpista troll for 13 hours. I storified it. (My first ever!)

storify.com

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:49:01am

re: #254 lawhawk

Assumes facts not in evidence - that he ever “had it”.

still partly convinced he never wanted this, announced for prez on a lark, never imagined he get the nomination. Obviously not prepared for when he did.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:53:28am

re: #257 Sir John Barron

still partly convinced he never wanted this, announced for prez on a lark, never imagined he get the nomination. Obviously not prepared for when he did.

He may have done it to spite the RNC muckymucks who were willing to take his money, but not treat him with the necessary deference due The Donald. Little did he know he’d end up with people expecting him to do real work.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:54:06am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

He seems to be losing it.

Read Letterman’s interview in the NYT today.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:55:52am

re: #259 Stanley Sea

Read Letterman’s interview in the NYT today.

Good read, thanks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:56:13am

Keith’s #17 in a series

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:57:46am

re: #257 Sir John Barron

still partly convinced he never wanted this, announced for prez on a lark, never imagined he get the nomination. Obviously not prepared for when he did.

I believe that too. And I also believe he was so pissed off at the WH Correspondent’s dinner when he got totally “roasted”, so he decided to run and fuck everyone’s shit up as revenge.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 7:58:52am

Unsourced attribution, but figures given the way other GOPers don’t want anything to do with him:

They’re more concerned with preserving the GOP brand at this point and minimizing damage done by Trump’s blunt style that identifies everything the GOP stands for in stark terms. The damage control by the GOP is about trying to ignore the substance on which they agree and try to make people think the GOP doesn’t truly stand for the principles that Trump speaks about.

Reality is that Trump and the GOP are mirror images of each other (and their core voters). They believe this stuff. They want this stuff. Trump’s just a whole lot more explicit in what the GOP wants to do. That makes GOP efforts to win elections tougher.

The people around Trump are trying to preserve their job opportunities going forward with other campaigns in the future.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:01:02am

re: #263 lawhawk

And he could sue anyone that said anything attributable because they’ve all signed NDA.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:01:51am

re: #263 lawhawk

Unsourced attribution, but figures given the way other GOPers don’t want anything to do with him:

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They’re more concerned with preserving the GOP brand at this point and minimizing damage done by Trump’s blunt style that identifies everything the GOP stands for in stark terms. The damage control by the GOP is about trying to ignore the substance on which they agree and try to make people think the GOP doesn’t truly stand for the principles that Trump speaks about.

Reality is that Trump and the GOP are mirror images of each other (and their core voters). They believe this stuff. They want this stuff. Trump’s just a whole lot more explicit in what the GOP wants to do. That makes GOP efforts to win elections tougher.

The people around Trump are trying to preserve their job opportunities going forward with other campaigns in the future.

That’s exactly what a lot of it is. Trump has exposed the Trump for the ugly and bigoted party it really is and for years the GOP has had a a wink and nudge approach to this that Trump ruined by being out in the open about it and made it even worse by winning the primary. They’re going to attempt to run away from Trump as if he never was nominated after November, they can’t get away with that. If they’re going to keep on blabbing about Ronald Reagan nearly 30 years after he left office, they need to get stuck with the Trump taint too.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:05:15am

re: #262 GlutenFreeJesus

I believe that too. And I also believe he was so pissed off at the WH Correspondent’s dinner when he got totally “roasted”, so he decided to run and fuck everyone’s shit up as revenge.

I do wonder how close the race would be if Trump had never entered the race and Hillary was running against, say, Jeb Bush or Little Marco.

Would it be closer because they could appeal to a larger demographic or about the same because RWNJs would lamenting that they weren’t truuuuuue conservatives?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:06:49am

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh

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Same stuff happened here during Katrina. It’s easy to act all defiant and macho BEFORE the storm shows up…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:07:09am

re: #266 Timothy Watson

I do wonder how close the race would be if Trump had never entered the race and Hillary was running against, say, Jeb Bush or Little Marco.

Would it be closer because they could appeal to a larger demographic or about the same because RWNJs would lamenting that they weren’t truuuuuue conservatives?

That’s a good point. I honestly don’t know. However, I think Clinton would be able to hit them both on their records. It would be closer though no doubt.

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Tigger2  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:07:34am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:08:34am

re: #269 Tigger2

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:09:05am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

nevermind that clinton didnt get to the senate until 6 years after trump pulled whatever he pulled

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:13:00am

re: #271 dangerman

It’s that old theory that anything Trump did wrong should be Clinton’s fault even if she wasn’t even born/in office/etc. when the event occurred.

Trump should have been prevented from using the tax law then in existence by Clinton who wasn’t in office even though Trump sought even greater benefits by appearing before Congress in testimony that sought some of the tax benefit he claimed.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:14:06am

re: #271 dangerman

Trump is counting on his fans not to know that, or care. They think Obama was president when the WTC fell. They probably think Hillary’s been in government since she was 9.

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jeffreyw  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:14:40am

re: #186 Semper Fi

Jeffrey, you put frosting on your meatloaf??

Doesn’t everyone?

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:14:54am

re: #273 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump is counting on his fans not to know that, or care. They think Obama was president when the WTC fell. They probably think Hillary’s been in government since she was 9.

Was that before or after she attacked that poor kid for the bunnies?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:15:03am

11:00 AM Update:
Raining hard, river level essentially unchanged, Ody unconcerned

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:15:05am

re: #190 lawhawk

So, FL Gov Scott’s presser is underway:

Key takeaway thus far - 600k without power.

Oh, and news reports suggesting that price gouging robust free market mechanisms are being spotted in Florida at some gas stations and hotels/motels.

Meanwhile, video from Cuba shows widespread damage and devastation on par with the damage seen thus far from Haiti.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:15:38am

re: #268 HappyWarrior

That’s a good point. I honestly don’t know. However, I think Clinton would be able to hit them both on their records. It would be closer though no doubt.

I suspect Hillary would be trailing Jeb or Kasich or Rubio, although perhaps not by much. I don’t know about Cruz. But they would have been completely different campaigns. And as I’ve theorized before, Trump drags everyone down with him, so I don’t think Hillary would be being perceived or treated as badly by the press and opponents as we’re seeing if someone other than Trump was the GOP nominee.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:15:54am

Btw that whole “Trump said illegals are coming here to vote thing” was pretty much him laying groundwork to explain his defeat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:16:32am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:19:13am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:21:38am

Weather Channel live @ Daytona Beach, large chucks of facade and whatnot being ripped off of the hotel crew is observing from

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:22:35am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Weather Channel live @ Daytona Beach, large chucks of facade and whatnot being ripped off of the hotel crew is observing from

Is Drudge down there reporting on what a false flag the whole hurricane business is?

/

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:23:21am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

Is Drudge down there reporting on what a false flag the whole hurricane business is?

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Hopefully his condo gets taken out and he’s the only stupid enough to be in the building.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:23:28am

One thing I’ve noticed with Matthew evacuations, this time most of the shelters are pet-friendly, so people who otherwise would refuse to leave their cats/dogs behind were more likely to go. Saw a tweet from one emergency manager assuring someone that yes, they could bring their parrot to the shelter with them.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:23:36am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

Is Drudge down there reporting on what a false flag the whole hurricane business is?

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Doesn’t Drudge live in the Miami area? I thought he did.

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:23:50am

re: #191 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One-on-one interaction with a live audience is going to be a disaster for him, whereas that’s absolutely Hillary’s best thing. I expect a total meltdown.

If he melts down from anything the audience does that will be the complete knockout punch. America does not want to see a politician get angry or real smarmy with a regular person in a town hall setting.

Getting angry and smarmy with another politician is labeled as “politic.” His supporters will eat up anything he does with Clinton, but even they might not be too keen on him trashing someone from the audience asking a question.

But this is Trump…he has real poor feel for people and situations. Not good temperament!

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:24:27am

This is pretty cool - wind map.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:25:39am

re: #287 ObserverArt

If he melts down from anything the audience does that will be the complete knockout punch. America does not want to see a politician get angry or real smarmy with a regular person in a town hall setting.

Getting angry and smarmy with another politician is labeled as “politic.” His supporters will eat up anything he does with Clinton, but even they might not be too keen on him trashing someone from the audience asking a question.

But this is Trump…he has real poor feel for people and situations. Not good temperament!

his true supporters will rage on anyone who challenges their hero or makes him look bad. LIBERAL PLANT!!!!! HOW COME THERE WEREN’T ANY CONSERVATIVE QUESTIONERS?????

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:26:23am

speaking of pet friendly:

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:26:50am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

Doesn’t Drudge live in the Miami area? I thought he did.

He was in a condo in Miami, not sure if he still is.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:28:09am

re: #291 Timothy Watson

He was in a condo in Miami, not sure if he still is.

That’s what I thought; that was years ago, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:33:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:34:51am
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:35:21am

re: #248 lawhawk

As the great fictional Marko Ramius once stated… Halsey acted stupidly.

His stupidity cost men their lives. Instead of seeking shelter at Ulithi Atoll, they steamed right into harm’s way - the heart of the storm.

I think the reference was to Halsey’s decision to leave the Philipine landing beaches unguarded while he sailed north to attack the Japanese decoy force.

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Tigger2  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:37:01am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s amusing to me that they think it only affects Dem voters, The Dems have had a registration drive going for a while, It’s the Repubs that haven’t had much of a ground game going on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:38:01am

re: #296 Tigger2

It’s amusing to me that they think it only affects Dem voters, The Dems have had a registration drive going for a while, It’s the Repubs that haven’t had much of a ground game going on.

Somehow, Voter Registration and Participation is seen as a net-loss game by the GOP of late. What does that say about their party?

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:38:54am

re: #258 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He may have done it to spite the RNC muckymucks who were willing to take his money, but not treat him with the necessary deference due The Donald. Little did he know he’d end up with people expecting him to do real work.

Sort of like Arnold Schwarzenegger in California? Arnold had bankrolled the CA GOP for years, but kept getting the brushoff from the Party bigwigs when it came to running for office, because they saw him as way too “liberal” for them. Then, when that idiotic recall election gave him the chance, he jumped in and won - mainly on celebrity/name-recognition.

Though one has to wonder if the analogy goes farther: Schwarzenegger proved a surprisingly effective executive (mainly by not pushing the troglodytic RW bigoted social agenda most CA Republicans favored*), but it helped the Party very little: they stuck with a regressive and ideologically rigid platform - with the result that the CA GOP is now an near-impotent minority in State politics. For which Californians seem to be grateful.

I’m not sure the parallels can be extended to a national level, though, but it’s an interesting comparison anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:39:14am
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Tigger2  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:39:16am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Somehow, Voter Registration and Participation is seen as a net-loss game by the GOP of late. What does that say about their party?

They know they can’t win if a lot of people vote.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:39:33am

draw your own conclusions

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:42:03am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

One thing I’ve noticed with Matthew evacuations, this time most of the shelters are pet-friendly, so people who otherwise would refuse to leave their cats/dogs behind were more likely to go. Saw a tweet from one emergency manager assuring someone that yes, they could bring their parrot to the shelter with them.

they tend to learn from experience and adapt for the next time

realistically, if you’re trying to encourage people to move to safety, and that means a shelter, you have to do *some* things to accommodate them over and above coffee a blanket and a sandwich

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:44:23am

re: #245 stpaulbear

My dad barely talked about his time in the Navy during WW2, but one of his stories was about the idiotic decision to sail through a Typhoon. His ship was knocked fully onto it’s side but somehow another wave caught the ship and set it upright again.

If you are still logged in…what ship was that?

I had an uncle that was aboard the USS Alabama and ran into a typhoon and did some nasty rolls and took some damage form the storm. I think that was in late 1944.

I still remember, my father had a what I would call a yearbook that has pictures of the crew and stuff they were involved in and it had pictures of them in the storm.

I think the same storm caused the fleet to lose several destroyers.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:44:53am

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

@eclecticbrotha was mixing it up with a Trumpista troll for 13 hours. I storified it. (My first ever!)

storify.com

@eclecticbrotha is the first and perhaps only person I asked to follow me. (He was threatening to block people for some offense, and I said, ‘First you’d have to follow me.’)

Nice Storify.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:45:59am

11:30 AM Update:
National Hurricane Center forecasting a potential for storm surge of three feet. So, I got another ten feet or so to play with…

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:46:23am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s one of the phenomena the polling models are not properly representing.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:46:58am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“make them citizens”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:48:46am

re: #304 wrenchwench

@eclecticbrotha is the first and perhaps only person I asked to follow me. (He was threatening to block people for some offense, and I said, ‘First you’d have to follow me.’)

Nice Storify.

I follow him (obviously) and noted he and this so-called atheist freethinker clown were exchanging barb after barb. I had to go back to early morning to find the tweet that set the whole thing going.

Thanks!

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Jayleia  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:49:14am

re: #296 Tigger2

It’s amusing to me that they think it only affects Dem voters, The Dems have had a registration drive going for a while, It’s the Repubs that haven’t had much of a ANY ground game going on.

FTFY

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:49:21am

re: #307 dangerman

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I thought government unions were the evil. And a complete quack manages to be elected Vice President of one?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:49:57am

Sister reporting back again from Ormond Beach. She says it’s ugly there and a tree went through the cantina.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:51:01am

re: #309 Jayleia

FTFY

Only recently have the Trumpistas started a “register 3 people to vote for Trump” campaign, hashtagged #MAGA3X. Tuesday is the last day to register for this election, AFAIK.

Great ground game there.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:51:24am

re: #296 Tigger2

It’s amusing to me that they think it only affects Dem voters, The Dems have had a registration drive going for a while, It’s the Repubs that haven’t had much of a ground game going on.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:51:51am

re: #312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Only recently have the Trumpistas started a “register 3 people to vote for Trump” campaign, hashtagged #MAGA3X. Tuesday is the last day to register for this election, AFAIK.

Great ground game there.

Depends on state, Virginia’s deadline is October 17th.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:53:06am

re: #314 Timothy Watson

Depends on state, Virginia’s deadline is October 17th.

Kaine’s state.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:53:16am

Update from south by dog carolina.

Now under Hurricane Warning and Flash Flood warning—sirens going off about every 10 minutes, but none of the local tv stations have broken away from idiotic shows.

Muggy as crap outside, but thus far, no rain. Expecting 8-12” (yikes) and 25-50 mph winds—but they’re saying it won’t likely hit till late tonight/tomorrow.

Just hope I don’t lose power today, as I have a ton of work to do that requires phone and my landline is digital cable, so no power/no phone, and my cell phone has been losing charge pretty quickly (have a new phone, but haven’t set it up yet and don’t want to risk screwing it up.)

On the plus side, my two most sane neighbors are staying; we have plenty of food, alcohol and ice, so as long as the the roofs don’t blow off, I think we’re good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:53:28am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Weather Channel live @ Daytona Beach, large chucks of facade and whatnot being ripped off of the hotel crew is observing from

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:53:41am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

One thing I’ve noticed with Matthew evacuations, this time most of the shelters are pet-friendly, so people who otherwise would refuse to leave their cats/dogs behind were more likely to go. Saw a tweet from one emergency manager assuring someone that yes, they could bring their parrot to the shelter with them.

That’s been one of the reasons that so many people in prior storms refused to leave their homes despite being flood zones - they didn’t want to leave their pets to an uncertain future.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:54:35am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

One thing I’ve noticed with Matthew evacuations, this time most of the shelters are pet-friendly, so people who otherwise would refuse to leave their cats/dogs behind were more likely to go. Saw a tweet from one emergency manager assuring someone that yes, they could bring their parrot to the shelter with them.

There is a federal requirement for that which was passed after Katrina IIRC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:54:55am

re: #316 BeachDem

MrBWS might be headed your way. They left Cincinnati this morning and are spending the night in Greensboro NC; will find out in the morning where they’ll be sent.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:55:15am

Sunday’s town hall thing will catch me once again teaching, so I’ll only be able to catch glimpses of the festivities live. If Trump’s behavior at his New Hampshire town hall is any indication, Sunday’s event should be comedy gold.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:55:36am

re: #315 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Kaine’s state.

Working on making it Hillary’s too. ;)

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:57:05am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s it…

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:59:35am

re: #319 Timothy Watson

For anyone interested:

H.R. 3858 (109th): Pets Evacuation and Transportation Standards Act of 2006

To amend the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act to ensure that State and local emergency preparedness operational plans address the needs of individuals with household pets and service animals following a major disaster or emergency.

govtrack.us

(If nothing else, that Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness minor at least paid for itself in trivia knowledge.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:00:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:01:16am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

We are checking out a report of an “active clown situation” in Arlington. No lie.

Passive clowns are even more insidious…

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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:01:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:02:06am
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Tigger2  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:03:30am

re: #313 Timothy Watson

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:04:43am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

He seems to be losing it.

Pressure!

I posted earlier this week he was going to come unglued. He is taking tons of hits from his past, getting killed in the current polling from his last debate and the PRESSURE is on.

He is now dealing in a world that he is not accustomed. He got away with crazy crap in his businesses because he could control his image. Now, he is out of that kind of control.

He is totally in the public eye and everyone can take their shots. He has never faced this much scrutiny at one time and now he knows he absolutely needs to perform straight…and cut the bullshit.

I don’t think he can do it.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:04:55am

Pence likewise refused to commute/reduce/pardon sentence on guy who was exonerated of a crime he didn’t commit. Because reasons.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:05:43am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

What the hell is Trump doing in Arlington??

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:32am

While Americans debate who should stay and who should go, and whether we should stay in NATO, China is busy catching us with our pants down.

shanghaiist.com

Now, you can’t tell me that the USA can’t manage to build a railroad between two friendly countries.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:09:24am

re: #327 gocart mozart

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:11:17am

re: #330 ObserverArt

We’ll see on Sunday night if he can hold it together. If he loses control, Trump will be toast. It’s the seventh inning, Clinton’s ahead by 5, and Trump hasn’t even scored yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:11:30am

I just asked my sister if she still has a house. She said it’s still standing, so far. The storm is still pretty wicked there.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:12:07am

re: #334 dangerman

gee don is it the title that gets ya?, cause there were an awful lot of shows with all white casts representing all white kinds of lives

They could retcon Ozzie and Harriet and call it Whiteish.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:14:08am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:15:07am

Time to call it a night. See everyone later.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:15:46am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sister reporting back again from Ormond Beach. She says it’s ugly there and a tree went through the cantina.

Stepdad in Palm Beach Gardens says the wind is now about 30 mph, he had leaks at his fireplace & kitchen.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:15:49am

re: #333 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Only the filthy Liburls believe in trains. Besides, you have to wonder how many kickbacks/bribes went on with their Chinese partners to get this through.

Funny thing-throughout the Ayn Rand corpus, all of the travel was on trains. Go figure…..

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:16:10am

re: #337 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They could retcon Ozzie and Harriet and call it Whiteish.

i learned a new word!

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:16:35am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just asked my sister if she still has a house. She said it’s still standing, so far. The storm is still pretty wicked there.

keeping a good thought here

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:18:29am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

One thing I’ve noticed with Matthew evacuations, this time most of the shelters are pet-friendly, so people who otherwise would refuse to leave their cats/dogs behind were more likely to go. Saw a tweet from one emergency manager assuring someone that yes, they could bring their parrot to the shelter with them.

Son of a family friend lives down near Port Canaveral somewhere. Mom didn’t think he’d evacuated since he has 7 cats and 3 dogs.

…yeah.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:19:12am

I don’t know if this got mentioned: still waking up. Hat tip to Gus.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:20:58am

re: #340 Stanley Sea

Stepdad in Palm Beach Gardens says the wind is now about 30 mph, he had leaks at his fireplace & kitchen.

central broward is down to about 20mph

did a run this morning
everybody did shutter up
no trees down
virtually no branches down
got about an inch of rain, no standing water
two or three isolated generators - no generalized power out

coupla trump signs. either they didnt get blown away or they were the first thing replanted this am

we’ve had worse no-notice thunderstorms
i’m not complaining

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:21:55am

12:15 PM image
St. Johns River level appears to be up to height I caught yesterday afternoon

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:22:53am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:23:25am

re: #348 FormerDirtDart

12:15 PM image
St. Johns River level appears to be up to height I caught yesterday afternoon

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You have not been advised to evacuate?

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:23:29am

Sunrise on the east coast doesn’t look as gentle as it is here.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:23:53am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:24:16am

re: #345 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know if this got mentioned: still waking up. Hat tip to Gus.

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Well, hell, if the police say so who are we to argue?

“All suspects are guilty—period! Otherwise, they wouldn’t be suspects, would they?”

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:24:32am

re: #348 FormerDirtDart

12:15 PM image
St. Johns River level appears to be up to height I caught yesterday afternoon

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Not to mention the Imperial forces staged on the opposite bank.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:25:31am

re: #352 Stanley Sea

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We need a more secure basket.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:25:49am

re: #347 Teukka

Image: toggl-how-to-save-the-princess-in-8-programming-languages.jpg

fortran?
assembler?
algol-w?

first, requisition a box of 5000 punch cards….

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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:31am

re: #354 darthstar

I reference the Star Wars fan film “Troops” in one comment, and darthstar sees Imperial walkers in the next one 16 seconds later. :)

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Stanley Sea  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:29:01am

Weird photo

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:29:43am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

One thing I’ve noticed with Matthew evacuations, this time most of the shelters are pet-friendly, so people who otherwise would refuse to leave their cats/dogs behind were more likely to go. Saw a tweet from one emergency manager assuring someone that yes, they could bring their parrot to the shelter with them.

Because pets are a primary reason for evacuation refuseniks to refuse. They had to do it to get people moving.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:30:00am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS might be headed your way. They left Cincinnati this morning and are spending the night in Greensboro NC; will find out in the morning where they’ll be sent.

They’re working through Duke, right? I’m with Santee-Cooper. They’re usually pretty good—we shall see…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:31:07am

re: #350 Stanley Sea

You have not been advised to evacuate?

Oh yeah, my apartment is in one of the evacuation zones. But, if I walk out my door, climb the steps to the second floor landing and walk across the sidewalk to my car I’m out of any listed evacuation zone.
I estimate my back porch is about at least 15 feet above normal river levels.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:32:34am

re: #345 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know if this got mentioned: still waking up. Hat tip to Gus.

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Well, Trump as his “knowledge” and his “common sense” so he doesn’t need any other evidence.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:32:55am

re: #358 Stanley Sea

Weird photo

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freakishly long legs, even if she’s wearing like 6 inch heels

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:33:38am

re: #334 dangerman

gee don is it the title that gets ya?, cause there were an awful lot of shows with all white casts representing all white kinds of lives

And he probably would go (more) crazy if he knew about “Fresh off the Boat.”

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:33:54am

re: #335 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

We’ll see on Sunday night if he can hold it together. If he loses control, Trump will be toast. It’s the seventh inning, Clinton’s ahead by 5, and Trump hasn’t even scored yet.

sounds about right

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:34:49am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:36:10am

re: #321 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sunday’s town hall thing will catch me once again teaching, so I’ll only be able to catch glimpses of the festivities live. If Trump’s behavior at his New Hampshire town hall is any indication, Sunday’s event should be comedy gold.

It’s gonna be a rude surprise when Sean Hannity or Howie Carr aren’t his questioners.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:37:35am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I miss having the Weather Channel. Verizon dumped them for a more low budget operation called Accuweather. Yeah, TWC had a lot of bling and flair, but I kinda liked it.

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stpaulbear  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:37:58am

re: #303 ObserverArt

If you are still logged in…what ship was that?

I had an uncle that was aboard the USS Alabama and ran into a typhoon and did some nasty rolls and took some damage form the storm. I think that was in late 1944.

I still remember, my father had a what I would call a yearbook that has pictures of the crew and stuff they were involved in and it had pictures of them in the storm.

I think the same storm caused the fleet to lose several destroyers.

I’ll have to confess that I don’t know what ship my dad was on. I know he was the head chef on the ship he was on. I remember him talking about what happened when knives weren’t locked down properly, and I’ve seen a picture of him on shore leave. Those, and the ship almost going over, are really the only things I can remember my dad talking about. My dad and I had a pretty horrible speaking relationship. No fights, just small talk or silence. Now that he’s gone and I’m old I regret how it went.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:38:57am

This morning’s dog-assisted mental health break:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:38:59am

re: #356 dangerman

COBOL:
OPEN I-O FORTRESS, RESCUE.
MOVE “PRINCESS’ TO FORTRESS-KEY.
READ FORTRESS WITH LOCK.
MOVE FORTRESS-REC TO RESCUE-REC.
WRITE FORTRESS-REC.
DELETE FORTRESS.
CLOSE FORTRESS, RESCUE.
STOP RUN.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:41:00am

re: #360 BeachDem

They’re working through Duke, right? I’m with Santee-Cooper. They’re usually pretty good—we shall see…

One of my other sisters works in Greensboro, so she’s going to try to connect up with him for dinner when she gets off work.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:41:58am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Greg Abbott (Gov, TCOT), tweeted something about “crushing voter fraud”. Texas supposedly has some “major” voter fraud initiative, like they’re deploying the Texas Rangers against a drug cartel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:43:44am
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:43:46am

re: #373 Sir John Barron

They’re going to clear the skies of chemtrails for us at the same time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:45:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:45:53am
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:46:03am

Looks like Matthew decided at the last minute to spare much of Florida.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:47:02am

re: #303 ObserverArt

If you are still logged in…what ship was that?

I had an uncle that was aboard the USS Alabama and ran into a typhoon and did some nasty rolls and took some damage form the storm. I think that was in late 1944.

I still remember, my father had a what I would call a yearbook that has pictures of the crew and stuff they were involved in and it had pictures of them in the storm.

I think the same storm caused the fleet to lose several destroyers.

re: #245 stpaulbear

re: #139 lawhawk

During WWII, the USN’s TF 38 sailed into a typhoon - bad data and Bull Halsey’s bad decision.

Several ships capsized. Multiple light carriers were damaged, their open bow design with gun tubs for AA protection meant that waves were able to damage the bow deck. After that experience, future US carriers were redesigned or upgraded to enclosed - hurricane - bows.

Halsey had a second encounter with a different typhoon with similar results - damage to multiple ships and loss of planes on several carriers. He was able to ultimately retire as a fleet admiral after the war. Nimitz intervened on his behalf.

Typhoon Cobra 1944

3 destroyers, over 100 aircraft, and 790 men were lost.
Radar image of the eye structure:

As far as I can tell, this is one of the very first radar images of a large tropical storm.

A Court of Inquiry found that Admiral Halsey had committed “an error of judgement” in sailing the fleet directly into the storm, but did not recommend any sanctions. Later, in July 1945, Halsey ran the fleet into yet another typhoon, resulting in 6 fatalities and another 76 planes lost, but no ship losses. Another Court of Inquiry recommended that Halsey be relieved of command, but Admiral Nimitz rejected that recommendation.

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electrotek  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:47:53am

Let’s not forget that today is the 10th anniversary of the murder of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya for exposing the crimes of the Kremlin.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:47:57am

re: #378 Ziggy_TARDIS

Looks like Matthew decided at the last minute to spare much of Florida.

If by spare you mean still about 1 million without power at the peak of the storm.

The storm wobbled a bit further east, which spared the coast from the worst of the surge and wind so far.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:48:35am
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Anymouse  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:49:31am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just got this message from a close friend. UK in 2016. How long before I’m berated for being the grandson of a refugee who fled the Nazis? pic.twitter.com

— Edward Anderson (@edanderson101) October 7, 2016

sigh…

Of course, we get the same thing in the USA from Rep. Steve King (R-IA) who wants to deport the grandchildren of “illegal immigrants” (that would include all ethnic Polish families like mine that fled the Nazis since Slavs were prohibited from entering the USA at the time).

Haven’t heard from my son in Jacksonville this morning; Skype shows him off-line. Either he turned off Skype or he’s lost power. He does not have a landline so he cannot telephone me. I was on Skype ninety minutes with him last night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:50:05am

re: #381 lawhawk

If by spare you mean still about 1 million without power at the peak of the storm.

The storm wobbled a bit further east, which spared the coast from the worst of the surge and wind so far.

And it hasn’t left Florida yet

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:51:16am

re: #381 lawhawk

Considering what could of happened, this is still a much better result.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:51:44am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:52:34am

This happened at Havel International Airport in Prague a few days ago - a crosswind landing that almost went horribly wrong. The first attempt was aborted.

Crosswind landing results in almost crash / hard touchdown + go around

Pucker time.

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Teukka  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:52:37am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is it safe to assume that most of the deplorables have never seen a tonic-clonic seizure up close and personal?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:53:29am

re: #388 Teukka

Is it safe to assume that most of the deplorables have never seen a tonic-clonic seizure up close and personal?

They just don’t care.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:54:21am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

Domestic terrorism by email. What a time to be alive.

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Teukka  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:54:42am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

They just don’t care.

Which I would say is indicative of something seriously amiss in their psyches.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:55:03am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

They just don’t care.

To a degree previously unimaginable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:56:38am

re: #388 Teukka

Is it safe to assume that most of the deplorables have never seen a tonic-clonic seizure up close and personal?

I guess they just assume that a guy just flaps his arms around like Trump did in that video

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Teukka  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:56:49am

re: #392 wrenchwench

To a degree previously unimaginable.

Not when you know how some mental conditions and ideologies cause empathy to be totally absent.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:57:56am

re: #387 Dr Lizardo

This happened at Havel International Airport in Prague a few days ago - a crosswind landing that almost went horribly wrong. The first attempt was aborted.

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Video

Pucker time.

in that “pilot voice”…
ladies and gentlemen, please dont open the overhead bins, we’re going around…

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:58:39am

re: #394 Teukka

Not when you know how some mental conditions and ideologies cause empathy to be totally absent.

But so widespread in a population?

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Teukka  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:59:48am

re: #393 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I guess they just assume that a guy just flaps his arms around like Trump did in that video

It’s worse than that. You need to keep your check on the victims posture so (s)he doesn’t end up in a position which compromizes the airways, keep them from slamming their head and other limbs into a hard floor too hard, check that the airways remain clear, all the while keeping an eye on the clock so you know how long the seizure has lasted.
And in applicable cases be prepared to administer seizure-stopping medications and be prepared for well-meaning bystanders believing you are an insane criminal.

Strange idea of “fun” “flapping” these deplorabes have…

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Tigger2  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:01:01am

re: #395 dangerman

in that “pilot voice”…
ladies and gentlemen, please dont open the overhead bins, we’re going around…

In the “Pilots Voice’.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

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Teukka  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:01:15am

re: #387 Dr Lizardo

This happened at Havel International Airport in Prague a few days ago - a crosswind landing that almost went horribly wrong. The first attempt was aborted.

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Pucker time.

The kind of pucker which leaves the pilots seat in a state of needing to be reupholstered o.o

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stpaulbear  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:01:30am

re: #379 Shiplord Kirel

This morning I found a YouTube about the incident. The interviews with sailors are pretty riveting, but it’s a History Channel program called Wrath of God: Halsey’s Typhoons - Peril on the Sea, so the overall perspective of the program has a lot of bullshit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:01:36am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

He was assaulted? The fuck?

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Interesting Times  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:03:38am

re: #401 Eclectic Cyborg

He was assaulted? The fuck?

Read the whole article:

A couple of weeks later, after my article about how Trump’s business interests would create a conflict of unprecedented proportions, I received a tweet from someone with the twitter handle “Mike’s Deplorable AF.”

In his tweet, which has since been deleted, Mike made mention of my seizures and included a small video. It contained images of Pepe the Frog, a cartoon character that has been identified by the Anti-Defamation League as a hate symbol. I was carrying my iPad, looking at the still image on the video and, without thinking, touched the PLAY button.

The video was some sort of strobe light, with flashing circles and images of Pepe flying toward the screen. It’s what’s called epileptogenic—something that triggers seizures. Fortunately, since I was standing, I simply dropped my iPad to the ground the second I realized what Mike had done. It landed face down on the bathroom floor.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:03:50am

re: #395 dangerman

in that “pilot voice”…
ladies and gentlemen, please dont open the overhead bins, we’re going around…

Or as Denis Leary once said, “Ladies and gentlemen, this is your pilot speaking. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em, ‘cause we’re going down.”

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Anymouse  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:07:52am

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

@eclecticbrotha was mixing it up with a Trumpista troll for 13 hours. I storified it. (My first ever!)

storify.com

Not sure I understand what was happening here on this storify thing. I must be too old for Twitter.

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:08:13am

re: #391 Teukka

Which I would say is indicative of something seriously amiss in their psyches.

Over and above being “Trump supporters”??

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Teukka  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:09:45am

re: #405 Jay C

Over and above being “Trump supporters”??

Being a Trump supporter would be a symptom…

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:10:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:14:39am

re: #407 lawhawk

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A particularly dim-witted Colobus monkey could run a better campaign. If that is indeed the case, who in their right mind cancels political advertising in the last few weeks prior to a Presidential election? The only possibility I can see is that the Trump campaign figures it’s not worth spending the $$$ in states they’re likely to lose, and that tells me that there must be some kind of internal polling that shows this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:15:38am
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Tigger2  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:15:51am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:16:11am

re: #408 Dr Lizardo

A particularly dim-witted Colobus monkey could run a better campaign. If that is indeed the case, who in their right mind cancels political advertising in the last few weeks prior to a Presidential election? The only possibility I can see is that the Trump campaign figures it’s not worth spending the $$$ in states they’re likely to lose, and that tells me that there must be some kind of internal polling that shows this.

And Ohio is one of the closer races according to public polls.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:18:33am

re: #411 Timothy Watson

And Ohio is one of the closer races according to public polls.

Indeed it is. Is Trump figuring he’d rather not shell out the money and keep it instead? And if the Trump campaign indeed raised $18 million and then cancels major ad buys, does that mean that Trump just enriched himself to the tune of $18 million?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:19:28am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, the RNC has “concerns”.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:20:11am
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MsJ  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:24:47am

re: #345 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:26:02am
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Jay C  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:27:20am

re: #408 Dr Lizardo

A particularly dim-witted Colobus monkey could run a better campaign. If that is indeed the case, who in their right mind cancels political advertising in the last few weeks prior to a Presidential election? The only possibility I can see is that the Trump campaign figures it’s not worth spending the $$$ in states they’re likely to lose, and that tells me that there must be some kind of internal polling that shows this.

If the Trump campaign is indeed writing off Ohio, Florida and No. Carolina 30 days out from the election, isn’t this basically admitting that the whole thing is a lost cause? Especially as OH has been, AFAICT, pretty much, at best/worst a toss-up in polling (?). How many more/other “battleground” states are there for Trump to concentrate on? IN? MO? WI? This does indeed smell of scam - even though (IIRC - correction will be graciously accepted) unspent campaign funds are supposed to be refunded/applied to outstanding debts…

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:27:52am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

I flew to Charleston once. Nice airport - easy to get in/out. Commercial airport shares space with a USAF base, so they were flying C-17s in/out at the time. Pretty impressive watching those planes landing/taking off.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:29:57am

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We’re the only ones allowed to interfere in the US election.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:31:18am

re: #417 Jay C

If the Trump campaign is indeed writing off Ohio, Florida and No. Carolina 30 days out from the election, isn’t this basically admitting that the whole thing is a lost cause? Especially as OH has been, AFAICT, pretty much, at best/worst a toss-up in polling (?). How many more/other “battleground” states are there for Trump to concentrate on? IN? MO? WI? This does indeed smell of scam - even though (IIRC - correction will be graciously accepted) unspent campaign funds are supposed to be refunded/applied to outstanding debts…

Yes, pretty much. That leads to my speculation as to whether the Trump campaign has some kind of internal polling that points in the direction of a debacle.

And yes, it reeks of a typical Trumpian scam, though like you, I thought unspent campaign funds were to be refunded or used to pay off any outstanding debts.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:31:56am
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sagehen  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:34:10am

re: #420 Dr Lizardo

Yes, pretty much. That leads to my speculation as to whether the Trump campaign has some kind of internal polling that points in the direction of a debacle.

And yes, it reeks of a typical Trumpian scam, though like you, I thought unspent campaign funds were to be refunded or used to pay off any outstanding debts.

If the funds came from the RNC (or were anticipated to come from the RNC), Reince may feel it’s better spent shoring up Senate candidates in close races.

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Weaselone  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:34:18am

re: #411 Timothy Watson

They are all generally listed as close races by public polls and all are must wins for Trump. It makes little sense to pull adds regardless of what the internal polls are showing unless the goal is to focus you efforts on pulling one additional state from Hillary and hoping those come through for you.

That assumes you’re playing to win. If you are fairly certain you’re going to lose, and the main goal is grifting, it makes perfect sense to pull adds and divert those funds to activities that do more to line your own pockets.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:34:28am
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Tigger2  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:35:55am
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:37:30am

re: #419 Belafon

Russia needs to pay a painful price for this.

If you come for the King, you best not miss.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:37:51am
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Nyet  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:39:10am

re: #358 Stanley Sea

Weird photo

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It’s the pants.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:39:17am

LOL

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electrotek  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:39:18am

Delusions of grandeur in ‘Tehrangeles’:

Across the street the owner at the Tochal Market, Todd Khodadadi, is also concerned about the economy.

“Because I’m Republican, I am supporting Donald Trump. The major reason I’m supporting him is the economy. I believe if he became the president we can have better economic choices for all of us in the United States,” said Khodadadi.m

Source

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Weaselone  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:39:33am

re: #422 sagehen

If the funds came from the RNC (or were anticipated to come from the RNC), Reince may feel it’s better spent shoring up Senate candidates in close races.

Except Rubio is only up +5.5 in Florida and the race in NC is too close to call. Pulling presidential adds there risks negatively impacting down ticket races in those states.

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electrotek  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:41:01am

re: #430 electrotek

Delusions of grandeur in ‘Tehrangeles’:

Source

Also:

But Bijan Khalili, the publisher of the weekly newspaper Iran Shahr said Trump is attractive to some Iranian Americans.

“Some of the Iranians really like the way that he talks being harder against the Islamic Republic because of matters of human rights,” said Khalili.

Trump and human rights never go together, are some of these people on hashish?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:42:00am

re: #430 electrotek

A large number of Iranian Americans were/are supporters of the Shah.

Trump is not to different in behavior from the Pahlavi family, so I could see how many would support him.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:42:05am

re: #432 electrotek

Also:

Trump and human rights never go together, are some of these people on hashish?

Meth

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:42:13am

re: #422 sagehen

If the funds came from the RNC (or were anticipated to come from the RNC), Reince may feel it’s better spent shoring up Senate candidates in close races.

Good point.

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:42:49am

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

*Shiva facepalm*

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:42:59am

re: #434 I Would Prefer Not To

Former Shah supporters.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:43:36am

re: #431 Weaselone

Except Rubio is only up +5.5 in Florida and the race in NC is too close to call. Pulling presidential adds there risks negatively impacting down ticket races in those states.

The RNC may be more concerned about trying to save the Senate, but yes, there could well be a negative impact down ticket. Demotivation for GOP voters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:43:46am

re: #429 Ziggy_TARDIS

and flamingos:

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:43:56am

re: #431 Weaselone

Except Rubio is only up +5.5 in Florida and the race in NC is too close to call. Pulling presidential adds there risks negatively impacting down ticket races in those states.

Nah… pulling presidential ads there makes R senate campaigns a whole lot easier.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:44:06am

re: #426 Ziggy_TARDIS

Russia needs to pay a painful price for this.

If you come for the King, you best not miss.

Yeah, every country in the world needs to laugh at them.

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:44:08am

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

Russian officials lodge formal complaint with UN asking them to stop trashing Trump

They’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

If the DoJ doesn’t open a full investigation on this (once Trump get his ass whupped in the election), something’s wrong.

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Anymouse  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:44:36am

re: #388 Teukka

Is it safe to assume that most of the deplorables have never seen a tonic-clonic seizure up close and personal?

Fortunately such people don’t send me E-mail. (Or if they do it goes into my “destroy before opening” folder.)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:47:15am
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electrotek  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:47:17am

re: #433 Ziggy_TARDIS

A large number of Iranian Americans were/are supporters of the Shah.

Trump is not to different in behavior from the Pahlavi family, so I could see how many would support him.

Even then, not all of them are the same. Majority of Iranian-Americans are Democrats heh

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:48:38am

re: #380 electrotek

Let’s not forget that today is the 10th anniversary of the murder of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya for exposing the crimes of the Kremlin.

She was murdered and she exposed Kremlin’s crimes (and many non-Kremlin crimes). How these two facts relate to each other is still an open question.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:50:35am
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Anymouse  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:51:01am

re: #397 Teukka

It’s worse than that. You need to keep your check on the victims posture so (s)he doesn’t end up in a position which compromizes the airways, keep them from slamming their head and other limbs into a hard floor too hard, check that the airways remain clear, all the while keeping an eye on the clock so you know how long the seizure has lasted.
And in applicable cases be prepared to administer seizure-stopping medications and be prepared for well-meaning bystanders believing you are an insane criminal.

Strange idea of “fun” “flapping” these deplorabes have…

Or strangers calling an ambulance (which insurance will not pay for because a seizure by itself is not considered a valid medical condition, except in certain instances). Had that done for me.

All this wingnuttery about Hillary Clinton “suffering from epilepsy” has been addressed by the Epilepsy Foundation as giving the general public bad information on what a seizure is and what someone should do for it.

It would be nice if Chief Justice John Roberts publicly spoke about his epilepsy, but he prefers not to. (That would go quite a way to dispel the notion you cannot hold high office with epilepsy. President Madison, who also had epilepsy, is not here to speak with us now.)

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:52:46am

re: #432 electrotek

re: #433 Ziggy_TARDIS

Sounds like standard emigre politics -a la Miami Cubans. Those emigrants forced out of their countries for political reasons (whatever their economic status) often (usually?) form blocs who will support candidates based mainly on how hard said candidates bash the governments that threw them out.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:52:47am

re: #427 Dave In Austin

olbermann holds back too much

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:53:14am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Newsweek posted the story of the deplorables going after reporters. An hour later, hackers tried to take down the site. Whether these are related is still an open question.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:54:02am

re: #444 I Would Prefer Not To

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“a week” is not a fiscal period for a campaign
they easily manipulated the numbers

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electrotek  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:58:37am

re: #449 Jay C

Sounds like standard emigre politics -a la Miami Cubans. Those emigrants forced out of their countries for political reasons (whatever their economic status) often (usually?) form blocs who will support candidates based mainly on how hard said candidates bash the governments that threw them out.

That also explains why Greek-Americans were staunch supporters of the Greek army junta in the late 60’s.

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stpaulbear  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:03:11am

re: #417 Jay C

If the Trump campaign is indeed writing off Ohio, Florida and No. Carolina 30 days out from the election, isn’t this basically admitting that the whole thing is a lost cause? Especially as OH has been, AFAICT, pretty much, at best/worst a toss-up in polling (?). How many more/other “battleground” states are there for Trump to concentrate on? IN? MO? WI? This does indeed smell of scam - even though (IIRC - correction will be graciously accepted) unspent campaign funds are supposed to be refunded/applied to outstanding debts…

It’s been said before, but the reason Trump isn’t putting money into advertising is because the money isn’t going to a Trump-owned company. He only wants to spend his campaign money on things that benefit himself.

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:13:26am

re: #357 Timothy Watson

I reference the Star Wars fan film “Troops” in one comment, and darthstar sees Imperial walkers in the next one 16 seconds later. :)

Once I was told that those cranes were the inspiration for the Walkers, I could never not see them.

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:14:34am

re: #387 Dr Lizardo

This happened at Havel International Airport in Prague a few days ago - a crosswind landing that almost went horribly wrong. The first attempt was aborted.

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Pucker time.

Pucker? Hell, full release time.

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:24:41am

re: #418 lawhawk

I flew to Charleston once. Nice airport - easy to get in/out. Commercial airport shares space with a USAF base, so they were flying C-17s in/out at the time. Pretty impressive watching those planes landing/taking off.

They also build 787’s at a Boeing plant on the SE corner of the airfield.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 7, 2016 • 12:43:36pm

re: #327 gocart mozart

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Like maybe a show called “Great White Hope”?

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 7, 2016 • 12:47:55pm

re: #353 Timothy Watson

Well, hell, if the police say so who are we to argue?

“All suspects are guilty—period! Otherwise, they wouldn’t be suspects, would they?”

Unless suspected of raping a teenager, then innocent until proven guilty.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 7, 2016 • 1:23:35pm

re: #410 Tigger2

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Stop and frisk his ass


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