Donald Trump’s Fascinating Friday Freakout

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Here’s another thread to discuss this fascinating Friday freakout, as we wait to see if the Trump campaign will actually release the apology video they’ve been promising, and that the GOP establishment is demanding. I’m very doubtful that he’ll be able to bring himself to issue a real apology, and I’ll be very surprised if he withdraws from the presidential campaign as some people are speculating.

This is one of the most amazing October surprises I’ve ever seen in all my years following politics. A meltdown par excellence.

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895 comments

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:56:47pm

this is un-freaking-believable. I mean, it’s just plain crazy. Earlier MSNBC had the hurricane in the corner and this news all night and all I could think is that yeah, they are related.

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Skip Intro  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:56:57pm

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:57:23pm

Jason Chaffetz withdrew his announcement. Hallie Jackson is now calling for Trump to step down.

This is getting very interesting.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:57:28pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:58:07pm

I was going to do a page on an interesting convo I had earlier at the dentist with an elderly lady who was there with her Husband. Long story short, the tax stuff matters too. She was livid about what he got away with and said the tax code needs to be fixed and not so it benefits people like Trump.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:58:10pm
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Jay C  Oct 7, 2016 • 8:59:36pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

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Why should she? The stuff released so far has been damaging enough!

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Lidane  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:00:59pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

It’s too late for Trump to step down. Ballots have already been printed and some states are already allowing early voting.

It’s amazing that after 18 goddamn months of Trump being a bigoted asshole, this is what finally pushes the GOP over the edge. What the fuck.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:01:17pm

I do wonder how much of this Trump garbage is just the normal process of journalists probing and digging up a candidate’s past. And how much the Hillary campaign and the Democrats had months ago and are now releasing in a controlled and strategic fashion.

The end result is happily the same, so I suppose it doesn’t matter that much. But it would be fascinating if the Dems knew most of this months ago and were just waiting.

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Skip Intro  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:04:02pm

The thing about this is it’s not anything out of the ordinary for Trump. He’s like this every single day of his life. No wonder it caught him off guard.

I’m sure his first words today were “so what”? “What’s the big deal”?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:04:41pm

So, what else has Access Hollywood been sitting on? As a matter of fact, how much shit has the producers of The Apprentice been sitting on with Trump that they’ve kept hiddden all these years?

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:05:12pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:05:43pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:05:59pm

What’s this #PodestaEmails BS the Trumpers on Twitter are pushing? Looks like a big load of nothingbuger to me. Ohhhh look, Hillary made a bunch of speeches where she said stuff! She want’s free trade and green energy!!!! Ohhhh the humanity!

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:07:18pm

Wikileaks and Politico desperately trying:

The most revealing Clinton campaign emails in WikiLeaks release

WikiLeaks released a trove of emails apparently hacked from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman email account, unleashing thousands of messages that reveal for the first time excerpts of Clinton’s paid speeches — including those delivered before Wall Street — that were flagged as problematic or potentially damaging.

The late-Friday release came almost immediately after a devastating tape emerged of Donald Trump in 2005 talking about how being “a star” entitled him to make aggressive sexual advances on women, fueling speculation that WikiLeaks is trying to tip the balance of the election.

[…]

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:07:28pm

re: #11 Eric The Fruit Bat

So, what else has Access Hollywood been sitting on? As a matter of fact, how much shit has the producers of The Apprentice been sitting on with Trump that they’ve kept hiddden all these years?

I thought the October Surprise thing was always a bit overblown..but damn.

This is freaking insane. I never imagined something this damaging was sitting in plain sight.

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:07:31pm

Here we go!

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:07:31pm
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Jenner7  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:07:43pm

re: #14 Ace-o-aces

It’s nothing. One of her speech transcripts was faked and Megyn Kelly fell for it.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:07:57pm

Video on.

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ipsos  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:05pm

OMG. Hostage video.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:08pm

All I want is for someone to read “The Snake” to all these motherfuckers who are suddenly shocked that the gross orange assmeat dumpling is a actually a gross orange assmeat dumpling.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:20pm

OMG this is bad.

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:26pm

Your “apology” is denied, asshole.

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Jenner7  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:39pm

Nope.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:39pm

This is an attack video. Jesus.

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ipsos  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:47pm

This is so not helping.

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:57pm

BILL CLINTON!!!

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Varek Raith  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:57pm

Color me not shocked in the least.

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Jenner7  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:08:59pm

Wow.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:09:21pm
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ipsos  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:09:28pm

I have seen bar mitzvah speeches delivered with more sincerity than whatever THAT was.

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Jay in Oregon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:09:35pm

re: #11 Eric The Fruit Bat

Considering that Trump makes everyone who works for him sign NDAs when they leave, I can’t even imagine what might be out there.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:09:49pm
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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:10:00pm

He just committed seppuku on the news. Christ.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:10:13pm

Yep…. He went there.

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:10:59pm

re: #35 Scottishdragon

He’s just reifying what his followers have already been doing the past couple of hours on social media.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:11:00pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:11:19pm

Non apology apology. And he is saying everyone is bad and does it too, especially the Clinton’s.

He’s toast. This shows he has no guts and is just a snake-like excuse maker.

Couldn’t happen at a better time. And as I had posted earlier, there is probably more coming. It’s pile on time.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:11:38pm

Holy CENSORED!

Trump has turned the entire GOP into a giant Alka Seltzer tablet and it’s plop plopping and fizz fizzing into oblivion!

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LastYearsMan  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:12:01pm

That was the least Trump sounding statement ever. It looked and sounded like Max Headroom.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:12:03pm
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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:12:18pm

re: #39 ObserverArt

Nah, it’s what his believers want to hear.

Drumpfskind will just go back to his rallies, and his people will love him all the more.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:12:19pm

He said his comments were a decade old yet criticized Bill Clinton’s behavior from over 18 years ago.

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ipsos  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:12:32pm

Watch his eyes dance as he follows someone else’s words on the prompter.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:12:42pm

Every now and then one of the deplorables gets past my preemptive block wall. It’s always this pathetic.

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Lidane  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:13:08pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:13:30pm

If the GOP don’t replace him they are done for.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:13:55pm

re: #32 ipsos

I have seen bar mitzvah speeches delivered with more sincerity than whatever THAT was.

or this (at 3m 5s)

Ryan Leaf story

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:14:00pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:14:17pm

re: #48 Eric The Fruit Bat

If the GOP don’t replace him they are done for.

The GOP is too late to replace him. That ship has sailed.

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MsJ  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:14:17pm

He apparently needed a few lines before making the video. SNIFF SNIFF

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LastYearsMan  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:14:26pm

Wow, poor Billy Bush’s Facebook page. He’s getting hammered.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:15:06pm
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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:15:17pm

And Batshit Crazy Bachman still supports Trump!

msnbc.com

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:15:17pm

Chaffetz, “I hope he is sincere.”

When has he ever been sincere?

Republican are scrambling.Good luck boys. It’s really stinking now.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:15:35pm

I called in downstairs-it was going to be an attack.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:15:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:16:13pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:16:54pm
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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:17:20pm

re: #48 Eric The Fruit Bat

If the GOP don’t replace him they are done for.

They can’t replace him at this point.

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Lidane  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:17:20pm

re: #48 Eric The Fruit Bat

If the GOP don’t replace him they are done for.

They CAN’T replace him. The ballots are already printed. States are already voting.

The GOP were warned months ago. They’re going to have to carry this nomination to term.

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bratwurst  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:17:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:17:41pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:18:40pm
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ipsos  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:19:42pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

I pity the poor campaign interns who’ll be up all night scrubbing the comments on that video.

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Varek Raith  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:20:05pm

It’s not like people weren’t warning the GOP for a year+ about Trump.
Nope.
No sirree!

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:20:21pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

Chaffetz, “I hope he is sincere.”

When has he ever been sincere?

Republican are scrambling.Good luck boys. It’s really stinking now.

I’m dreaming of a BLUE UTAH!

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Jenner7  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:21:19pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon

Oh my god, that would be ahhmazing.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:21:38pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

It’s not like people weren’t warning the GOP for a year+ about Trump.
Nope.
No sirree!

“Why did you turn our newstand into a scat fetish emporium with an F OSHA rating?”

“Because it is my nature.”

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Great White Snark  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:21:42pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:21:44pm

re: #61 Scottishdragon

They can’t replace him at this point.

Think of all the states that started Early voting!

If they dump Trump now, those ballots marked for Trump aren’t going to be counted for another GOP candidate!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:22:15pm

re: #41 LastYearsMan

That was the least Trump sounding statement ever. It looked and sounded like Max Headroom Hardcore.

FTFY

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bratwurst  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:22:16pm

This is literally what he will be going with at the debate.

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:22:50pm

teleskiguy,

Off-topic but something you might be interested in.

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:22:54pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

The Drumpfskind marks commenting on that video pretty much tells us what we already knew.

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Interesting Times  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:23:02pm

re: #61 Scottishdragon

They can’t replace him at this point.

Okay, crazy thought time: what if they declare outright that they’ll pull some trick to install Pence as president after the election, so vote trump anyway to ensure that happens?

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blueraven  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:23:03pm
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Anymouse  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:23:41pm

From the end of the last thread (these things are moving too fast for me to catch up):

re: #370 thedopefishlives

My worst private moment? Yeah, it’s pretty bad, and if I were running for President, I’d expect it to come out. In fact, I’d anticipate it by being up-front about it and having my wife beside me to support me. Bomb defused, motherfuckers.

My worst private moment is pretty banal: the fact I am an erotic Romance editor in my spare time. That was already known by my whole town when I ran for my village board.

In the event I was running for a major office, the very first thing I would do is hire oppo research on myself, in case I either missed something, or something could be spun in a way that would hurt.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:23:42pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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He had nothing to sell.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:24:17pm
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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:24:46pm

re: #80 Belafon

He had nothing to sell.

He could have relaunched his steak products.

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MsJ  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:25:41pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:03pm

re: #77 Interesting Times

Okay, crazy thought time: what if they declare outright that they’ll pull some trick to install Pence as president after the election, so vote trump anyway to ensure that happens?

Millions of Republican Trumpists would be outraged; it would be a total shitshow.

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Skip Intro  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:11pm

Has he started tweeting again? Should be epic.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:13pm

I would like to retract my earlier comments, as after this video, I am thoroughly convinced that Trump will be there on Sunday. And that he will commit a live and televised act of political seppuku.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:17pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:18pm
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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:26pm

I’m just waiting to see these hats at the next Trump Rally!

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:36pm

Haven’t read any of the comments, but watching that pile o’shit is about to make my head explode. Why did any of the fucking networks run his little infomercial (10 seconds of “oops, sorry” and the rest touting himself and slamming Hillary) instead of making him say it live in front of the press and taking questions?

I’m madder now than when I watched the original video. They let him get away with a canned, prepared statement and basically a stump speech?

BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT.

OK==going back to read. Guess it’s good that I won’t be able to sleep as I wait for the wind and the rain (and perhaps the meteor…)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:26:38pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon

I’m dreaming of a BLUE UTAH!

The Mormons aren’t going to like this. Probably won’t flip Utah, but in combination with Johnson voters, I think Trump’s lost Arizona for sure.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:27:35pm

re: #85 Skip Intro

Has he started tweeting again? Should be epic.

Just the pathetic new video.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:28:11pm
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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:28:13pm

re: #77 Interesting Times

Okay, crazy thought time: what if they declare outright that they’ll pull some trick to install Pence as president after the election, so vote trump anyway to ensure that happens?

As others pointed out, and I went and read the 12th amendment to research, the electors could vote for anyone they want. So, yeah, all the electors from states that are won by Republicans could get together and vote for anyone for president, and then vote for anyone for vice president.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:28:20pm

“Governor, how can you ignore this?”
“Thank you!”

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:28:24pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

Just the pathetic new video.

If Trump had any brains left he’d switch from Tweeting to SYLVESTERING!

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:28:44pm

The front page at Huffpo has to be seen to be believed.

Trust me.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:29:05pm

This election is over, the question now is how high does Hillary run up the score.

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Skip Intro  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:29:18pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

You know he’s steaming about being forced to make it. I think another 3am tweet storm is coming.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:29:39pm

re: #89 Joe Bacon

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But it was always great!!!

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Lidane  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:30:03pm

Trump brought up the Central Park Five this morning and ended the day with a hostage video where he blames Bill Clinton for his problems.

Hillary’s going to be shimmying during the entire next debate. She couldn’t have asked for a better campaign day.

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Alyosha  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:30:16pm

Also too.
Why Biblical figures don’t always offer the best character references by way of comparison:

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:30:17pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:31:08pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:31:20pm

Meanwhile, Fox News’ front page is a story about…a Fox News poll that only shows Hillary up by 2. Oh, and now a “breaking news” bulletin about Trump’s “apology” video.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:32:25pm

re: #19 Jenner7

It’s nothing. One of her speech transcripts was faked and Megyn Kelly fell for it.

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Hey—it was on a site called REAL TRUE NEWS. Who wouldn’t fall for it?
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Anymouse  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:32:26pm

re: #94 Belafon

As others pointed out, and I went and read the 12th amendment to research, the electors could vote for anyone they want. So, yeah, all the electors from states that are won by Republicans could get together and vote for anyone for president, and then vote for anyone for vice president.

Many states have laws in place that require the electors to vote for the candidate they were selected for.

So while the XII Amendment in theory allows an elector to vote for whomever he wants, the reality is that “faithless electors” can only occur in a couple states, and have only occurred a handful of times in history.

If electors tried to dump Mr. Trump, the complaints Mr. Trump made of “the election might be stolen” would be all too real for Trump’s supporters.

Unless Trump dies or withdraws, the GOP is stuck with Trump. In the event he won, they could try impeaching him, but why would they?

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:33:32pm

re: #97 Scottishdragon

The front page at Huffpo has to be seen to be believed.

Trust me.

He’s getting pummeled. He is going to have a bad weekend. All this and calls for him to step down are going to dominate ALL the media.

There isn’t a firehose big enough.

Oh, and Bully Bush, his career may be over too. I can see his new gig at the later Today Show slot being cut at the least.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:33:38pm

FFS, the media’s actually buying that this was an “apology” and not a serial abuser’s pathetic excuse-making.

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Lidane  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:34:45pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:34:51pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

FFS, the media’s actually buying that this was an “apology” and not a serial abuser’s pathetic excuse-making.

BOTH SIDES! BALANCE!

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:35:03pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

I suspect this revelation and non-apology by Drumpfskind to have no net effect on the number of votes he will get.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:35:17pm

The Rage Furby-Pax Dickinsox account strikes again!

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:35:19pm
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Lidane  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:35:25pm

re: #107 Anymouse

It’s too late for Trump to withdraw. Ballots were printed a long time ago and early voting is already happening in some states.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:35:44pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

FFS, the media’s actually buying that this was an “apology” and not a serial abuser’s pathetic excuse-making.

They need to be taken to task for this kind of fecklessness-after all, they are also complicit in creating this monster to begin with.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:36:34pm

re: #107 Anymouse

Many states have laws in place that require the electors to vote for the candidate they were selected for.

So while the XII Amendment in theory allows an elector to vote for whomever he wants, the reality is that “faithless electors” can only occur in a couple states, and have only occurred a handful of times in history.

If electors tried to dump Mr. Trump, the complaints Mr. Trump made of “the election might be stolen” would be all too real for Trump’s supporters.

Unless Trump dies or withdraws, the GOP is stuck with Trump. In the event he won, they could try impeaching him, but why would they?

And I suspect some interesting challenges could be made around states trying to enforce those laws. It would be hilarious watching Republicans argue that the 12th amendment overrides the states.

In a lot of cases, the reason an elector doesn’t go against party wishes is it pretty much ends that persons political career. In this case, though, what if the party wanted it? And what if the Republicans in charge of those states didn’t enforce the law because they wanted someone other than Trump?

Pure speculation on my part anyway. Trump isn’t going to win.

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fern01  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:36:38pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

In Trumps real world men abuse women - and still there are a few who will vote for him

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ozharas  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:37:23pm

re: #97 Scottishdragon

Amazing.

It initially took me to our local Australian version, where the lead headline states :

DISASTROUS: Kim Beazley believes a Trump Presidency could “trash” Australia’s security alliances and create a trade war that could ruin our economy.

Beazley is a former Defence Minister, former deputy Prime Minister and former Ambassador to the US.

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Lidane  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:37:26pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:37:35pm

re: #113 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That whole Twitter feed is absolutely disgusting right now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:37:57pm

re: #112 freetoken

I suspect this revelation and non-apology by Drumpfskind to have no net effect on the number of votes he will get.

Hillary’s lead has been rapidly expanding all week, and tonight his odds of winning have already dropped down to about 18%. With this revelation, his odds of winning are going to rapidly drop to nearly zero.

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:38:26pm

Oh gawd,,,freaking Chris Matthews is buying the “I am now changed by being on the trail” bullshit. I swear he can excuse anything as a good political move.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:39:41pm
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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:40:00pm

re: #123 ObserverArt

Oh gawd,,,freaking Chris Matthews is buying the “I am now changed by being on the trail” bullshit. I swear he can excuse anything as a good political move.

The tweet Charles has at #103 needs to be force fed to Tweety.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:41:03pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

That whole Twitter feed is absolutely disgusting right now.

Yup.

As well as delusional

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:41:20pm

Listening to Trumpists desperately trying to pivot to the Clintons in the nineties on CNN.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:42:27pm

Harry Reid:

This is a moment of truth for Republicans. It is time for every Republican elected official in this county to revoke their endorsements of Donald Trump and state that they will not vote for their party’s nominee, who has been caught on tape bragging about routinely sexually assaulting women. There is no way to defend the indefensible. In the name of decency, Republicans should admit that this deviant - this sociopath - cannot be president.

Let’s review.

My counterparts, Senator McConnell and Speaker Ryan, have endorsed a man who brags about sexually assaulting women. Many of my Republican colleagues have said they believe this man should be president. One even called him a role model.

What will it take for Republicans to walk away from Trump?

Bragging about sexually assaulting women is just his latest atrocity. He has called Mexican immigrants rapists. He has insulted our veterans and ridiculed the parents of a fallen soldier. He has called for discriminating against people based on their religion. He has cozied up to dictators like Putin and invited Russia to launch a cyberattack against America. He has encouraged violence at his rallies, especially against African Americans. He is clearly a racist. He questioned the judgment of a respected judge based purely on his Mexican heritage. He elevates those who traffic in White Nationalist rhetoric, and even hired a man with White Nationalist sympathies to run his campaign. He uses his charity to enrich himself and lies about his wealth. He is the first nominee in decades to refuse to release his tax returns, because he knows they will expose him as a fraud and reveal that he is not as rich as he says he is. He has a long history of discriminating against African Americans and still believes the Central Park Five are guilty even though another man confessed and was proven to be guilty by DNA evidence. He has repeatedly promoted anti-Semitic sentiment on social media.

What are Republicans waiting for?

What is it going to take for Republicans to discover even the barest modicum of decency and respect?

For the good of the country, I hope that my Republican colleagues do not try to circle the wagons around a man who brags about sexually assaulting women. Never in history has a party nominated someone more unfit to be president. There is still time for Republicans to acknowledge their mistake and salvage their dignity. They can do so by finally deciding to put the good of our country first.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:42:36pm
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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:42:53pm

Facebook is telling me that a million people are interested in the Wikileaks dump, a whole lot more than those interested in Paul Ryan of the latest Drumpfskind video.

This is our world.

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EPR-radar  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:43:00pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

I would like to retract my earlier comments, as after this video, I am thoroughly convinced that Trump will be there on Sunday. And that he will commit a live and televised act of political seppuku.

My prediction (and I’ll be very happy if I’m wrong) is that Trump will drop his pants then to deal with the pressing ‘small hands’ issue once and for all.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:43:17pm

re: #123 ObserverArt

That isn’t what I heard Matthews say. Matthews looks and sounds real skeptical.

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:43:20pm

re: #114 jaunte

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Whoa, David Corn goes after Cruz for Trump. Damn, the long knives are out. I don’t think I’ve seen political bloodletting like this in a presidential race in my 62 years.

The party may be forced to start taking sides in all this or they all face issues. There will be stabbing going on before this is all over in the party too. There will be fall guys. I hope Ryan and McConnell get nicked by it all.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:43:39pm

re: #130 freetoken

Facebook is telling me that a million people are interested in the Wikileaks dump, a whole lot more than those interested in Paul Ryan of the latest Drumpfskind video.

This is our world.

Which is why it’s all over the media. //

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bratwurst  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:44:14pm

So confusing when two people I dislike greatly are fighting each other:

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:44:23pm

re: #133 ObserverArt

Whoa, David Corn goes after Cruz for Trump. Damn, the long knives are out. I don’t think I’ve seen political bloodletting like this in a presidential race in my 62 years.

The party may be forced to start taking sides in all this or they all face issues. There will be stabbing going on before this is all over in the party too. There will be fall guys. I hope Ryan and McConnell get nicked by it all.

Blood for the Blood God.

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:44:37pm

re: #134 Belafon

Facebook’s “trending” figures are very weird.

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blueraven  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:44:45pm

Ana Navarro saying the word pussy over and over live on CNN. Scottie Hughes asked her to stop because offensive. Cant make this shit up

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:46:09pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:46:44pm

HIgh-T bros feeling a little testy.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:47:38pm

re: #127 Big Beautiful Door

Listening to Trumpists desperately trying to pivot to the Clintons in the nineties.

The difference is that I’m pretty sure Hillary keeps Bill’s dick in a jar and she allows him to have it only on the night’s they’re together.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:47:51pm

re: #128 Belafon

Harry Reid:

Give ‘em hell, Harry. Oh, I see you did!

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:48:11pm

re: #97 Scottishdragon

The front page at Huffpo has to be seen to be believed.

Trust me.

In their story about how the tape turned up, they out the woman Trump was talking about.

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:48:47pm

re: #140 jaunte

HIgh-T bros feeling a little testy.

I see what you did there.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:48:48pm

Trump is Jonathan WInters and the gas station is The Republican Party!

Jonathon Winters’ Finest Hour

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:49:05pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:49:45pm

Ha:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:50:02pm

re: #135 bratwurst

Oh, SNAP!

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:50:33pm

You know, when I made a prediction last year that the winner of the GOP primaries could not win the general election because they would be so vile that people would turn away from them, I didn’t expect the universe to look down and declare “Challenge Accepted!”

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EPR-radar  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:50:48pm

re: #133 ObserverArt

Whoa, David Corn goes after Cruz for Trump. Damn, the long knives are out. I don’t think I’ve seen political bloodletting like this in a presidential race in my 62 years.

The party may be forced to start taking sides in all this or they all face issues. There will be stabbing going on before this is all over in the party too. There will be fall guys. I hope Ryan and McConnell get nicked by it all.

I’m hoping Ryan and McConnell get more than nicked by this. The near-instantaneous transformation of the GOP from a national party to a regional party would be a good start.

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KingKenrod  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:51:22pm

David Fahrenthold on MSNBC now. Didn’t know he was the one who broke this story.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:51:31pm

re: #138 blueraven

Ana Navarro saying the word pussy over and over live on CNN. Scottie Hughs asked her to stop because offensive. Cant make this shit up

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:53:36pm

re: #132 Scottishdragon

That isn’t what I heard Matthews say. Matthews looks and sounds real skeptical.

Initially he stated that the presidential trail can change people and make you a different person. That is buying the excuse as a political move, not necessarily as a moral move. He then went on to say that he thought it won’t work and is probably in trouble. But he still acknowledged the video and that line about being changed as good politics.

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Jenner7  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:54:26pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:54:41pm

re: #135 bratwurst

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Alyosha  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:55:22pm

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whitebeach  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:57:03pm

re: #155 teleskiguy

A whole lot of why sitcoms suck these days can be traced back to Seinfeld.

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:57:37pm

re: #138 blueraven

Ana Navarro saying the word pussy over and over live on CNN. Scottie Hughes asked her to stop because offensive. Cant make this shit up

Ana has been great. She is not buying any Trump at all. She could really hurt the Republican women’s vote, what is left of it.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:57:57pm

re: #154 Jenner7

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And let me guess—Andre “don’t feed strays or poor people because they’ll just breed” Bauer lending his tremendous insight to the conversation. Why the fuck CNN keeps having this misanthrope on is just beyond me.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:58:30pm

re: #151 KingKenrod

David Fahrenthold on MSNBC now. Didn’t know he was the one who broke this story.

He wants that Pulitzer.

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He fucking deserves it.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 9:59:35pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:00:14pm

re: #91 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It might not flip Utah now, but there are elements in Mormonism that could make trying to flip Mormons in the long term worth trying.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:00:35pm
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blueraven  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:01:00pm

OMG Hilarity!

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:01:38pm

Trump keeps ruining my ability to study. He’s like a train that crashed, and then you find out the train was powered by a nuclear engine, and come to find out the engine was running on an isotope of element 666 that creates miniature black holes, which then combine together to open all seven seals of the apocalypse. And you just have to watch.

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:01:47pm

re: #152 jaunte

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Ana Navarro is fire. She’s gonna help bring Trump down.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:04:44pm

re: #165 Belafon

Trump keeps ruining my ability to study. He’s like a train that crashed, and then you find out the train was powered by a nuclear engine, and come to find out the engine was running on an isotope of element 666 that creates miniature black holes, which then combine together to open all seven seals of the apocalypse. And you just have to watch.

You should tweet that, awesome!

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Joe Bacon  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:05:25pm

OH THE HUMANITIES!

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:05:37pm

Now Facebook is telling me that Wikileaks is “live”, whatever that is supposed to mean.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:08:16pm

re: #165 Belafon

Trump keeps ruining my ability to study. He’s like a train that crashed, and then you find out the train was powered by a nuclear engine, and come to find out the engine was running on an isotope of element 666 that creates miniature black holes, which then combine together to open all seven seals of the apocalypse. And you just have to watch.

You forgot the bit where he also unleashes Cthulhu and the Eldar Gods who dance to accursed insane piping while simultaneously targeting himself with this fucking thing….

This crazy bastard had so many ways to kill you, it was like a death buffet: should I die in the nuclear blasts of the bombs themselves, or just let the shockwave of the overpassing missile kill me? Maybe I’ll just wait for the radiation sickness as this thing circles endlessly overhead, like a colossal demonic robot vulture. It’s so hard to choose!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:11:28pm
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Belafon  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:11:43pm
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whitebeach  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:12:39pm

Got a cousin in rural east Texas who was elected judge for several terms up to his retirement. He’s also a serious Southern Baptist. This is to say that he is a rock-ribbed right-wing Republican who probably wouldn’t vote for Hillary if she were the last candidate in the nation. But from my talks with him and knowledge of him I feel fairly sure that this latest thing will mean that he can’t vote for Trump. So it’s a small win, a half-vote win, and I think there are a lot of other people like him in Texas. Nothing would please me more than to see that place go blue, even if by only a single half-vote.

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TedStriker  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:15:04pm

re: #89 Joe Bacon

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Well, pussy (or dick, for those so disposed) never stopped being great, IMNSHO…

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:15:36pm

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large crowds.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:21:12pm
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Sir_Checkmate  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:21:41pm

re: #135 bratwurst

I never thought I’d be saying that Erick Erickson is making a lot of sense now. This election is messed up.

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:21:57pm

re: #128 Belafon

Harry Reid:

And BOOM! goes the dynamite.

And the R who is running for his seat is shitting bricks right now, knowing that the top of the Party is going to shoot him in the head.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:22:19pm

Time to resurrect a nickname that hasn’t been used since Ah-nold’s political career cratered: Der Gropenführer.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:23:13pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:25:50pm

re: #72 Joe Bacon

Think of all the states that started Early voting!

If they dump Trump now, those ballots marked for Trump aren’t going to be counted for another GOP candidate!

Keep in mind that the ballots are NOT for Donald Trump, they are for electors to vote in the Electoral College. Changing the ballots after early voting has started will cost the new candidate a percentage point or two, but if the electors don’t change then they can probably vote for whoever the Republican nominee is.

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nickzi  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:25:59pm

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:26:35pm

re: #182 nickzi

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It’s like I said Tuesday night, in six months Pence will go “Donald Trump? I don’t know anybody by that name.”

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:32:41pm

They just don’t get it: (thanks to Joan McCarter at kos for gathering them in one place)

Rob Portman: “The comments were offensive and wrong and he was right to apologize.”

Kelly Ayotte: “His comments are totally inappropriate and offensive.”

Richard Burr: “The comments are inappropriate and completely unacceptable.”

Pat Toomey: “Donald Trump’s comments were outrageous and unacceptable.”

Joe Heck: “I condemn in the strongest possible terms Donald Trump’s comments. The language he used was disgraceful and there are no circumstances where such behavior is acceptable.”

Roy Blunt: “Donald Trump’s statements were disrespectful and inappropriate, and he was right to apologize.”

Ron Johnson: “Donald Trump’s recent comments are completely indefensible and I refuse to even attempt to try and do so.”

No, you jackals—it’s not that his words or his language or his statements were inappropriate or disrespectful or outrageous—it’s that THE ASSHOLE IS A SEXUAL PREDATOR WHO IS TALKING ABOUT ASSAULTING WOMEN AND HE IS YOUR FUCKING CANDIDATE.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:32:54pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:33:01pm

Check out this disjointed broken-up jumbled-as-fuck tweet!

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:35:00pm

re: #184 BeachDem

Yup, the hard spin is that it is only “words” by Drumpfskind. That was one of the first Facebook meme reactions to this tape.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:35:45pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

Check out this disjointed broken-up jumbled-as-fuck tweet!

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It’s Hai Hew (like haiku, but stupid and disjointed and incoherent.)

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whitebeach  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:37:10pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

Check out this disjointed broken-up jumbled-as-fuck tweet!

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Seems like they’re pouring the drinks with a heavy hand on first class to Bakersfield.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:37:29pm
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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:37:58pm

So it looks like the counter-headlines that are being engineered for tomorrow is that Clinton and her bankers cabal are planning to let more illegals in and to ship jobs out.

This revelation courtesy of brave Wikileaks.

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blueraven  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:38:04pm

Hewitt seems to be saying this is tip of the iceberg.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:40:56pm

re: #190 sagehen

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Cuban was on Maher tonight and was merciless—I can’t remember if it was him or Maher who came up with the Bernie Madoff comparison. Carville was also on.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:42:45pm

re: #193 BeachDem

Cuban was on Maher tonight and was merciless—I can’t remember if it was him or Maher who came up with the Bernie Madoff comparison. Carville was also on.

Carville, Cuban AND Franken on Maher? Can’t wait for the YouTube Vids to drop.

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nickzi  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:50:33pm
Trip Gabriel ‏@tripgabriel 8h8 hours ago
Just 4 days ago AP interviewed 20 people — 20! — from “Apprentice” who described similar lewd & sexist behavior

bigstory.ap.org

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:53:00pm

re: #195 nickzi

bigstory.ap.org

And I do believe the response from the media and others was “Meh.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:53:50pm

Chuck and Pax letting their misogyny fly.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:54:55pm

When will it be ‘for real?’ When conservatives in the United States really hit a wall and realize the error of their ways, will that happen?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:54:59pm

re: #195 nickzi

bigstory.ap.org

Remember, folks, this is the first big reveal, with 32 more days to go. I know we’ve all been impatient, but shooting your wad too early is always a bad idea.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:56:22pm

re: #199 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

…dead hookers…

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:57:37pm

re: #199 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, but wait until the truth is revealed about Vince Foster!!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 10:57:58pm

Think Trump can pull this off at the debate should this line of attack come up? (A comment over at Naked Capitalism:)

Trump: How can anyone trust somebody so crooked she boasts about having one position in public and another in private.

Clinton: You mean like pretending to respect women in public and then talking in the most disgusting manner imaginable about them in private.

Trump: Listen, I call ‘em like I see ‘em, in private and in public. If I think a woman’s a pig, I call her a pig. Or a crook. Out loud. But by all means, if you want to start broadcasting our private sexual affairs, start by explaining to us all how you could demean yourself by continuing to live with a sexual predator, and even promise to make him your economics czar. What was that again he did with the cigar and the young White House intern’s vagina? In the White House. Don’t you dare pretend I’m too crude for your taste, baby.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:00:51pm

I know I’m going straight into the gutter with my ‘dead hookers’ comments.

I’m saying that it isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Rich people love to get away with horrible shit.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:01:46pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

And I do believe the response from the media and others was “Meh.”

And NBC asked Mark Burnett if he might pretty please release some footage, and he won’t return their calls, so they’re all, “Oh, okay Marky Mark, we totally understand. Sorry to have bothered you and Roma.”

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:03:30pm

re: #199 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Remember, folks, this is the first big reveal, with 32 more days to go. I know we’ve all been impatient, but shooting your wad too early is always a bad idea.

I just gotta say, if this is all a carefully orchestrated campaign laid out by the Clinton campaign over the course of months, then that woman truly is evil incarnate…which is exactly why I want her in the White House.

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nickzi  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:03:55pm

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whitebeach  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:05:57pm

re: #204 teleskiguy

I know I’m going straight into the gutter with my ‘dead hookers’ comments.

I’m saying that it isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Rich people love to get away with horrible shit.

This whole thing has been in the sewer under the freakin gutter for a long time. I go with the great quote from Edwin Edwards, that he couldn’t lose the election unless they caught him in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. It seems to me that either or even both of those possibilities could surface with Trump in the coming few weeks.

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Kragar  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:05:58pm
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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:09:06pm

re: #204 teleskiguy

I know I’m going straight into the gutter with my ‘dead hookers’ comments.

I’m saying that it isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Rich people love to get away with horrible shit.

I’m anxious to read the upcoming installments that this kos writer has about the underage models at his modeling agency. She claims to have talked to a bunch of them, and it sounds like it is just awful. Will the broader media pay attention? Who knows—people at kos are sending it to Vanity Fair and Rolling Stone and Olbermann and others to try to stir some interest.

dailykos.com

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:09:12pm

re: #209 Kragar

Why didn’t Donald think of that?

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piratedan  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:09:20pm

what will be interesting is watching how the Clinton campaign will tie the entire GOP to this.. and while they’ll rebuke his statements, they won’t disavow him…

so I expect to see the entire laundry list of GOP “foibles” trotted out as reminders to women, just how the GOP has treated them…

Todd Akin, David Vitter, Hastert, the whole kit and caboodle of sexist, misogynist shit that has only floated to the surface occasionally… I can see it all being brought up and packaged. I wouldn’t be surprised to watch Hillary taint all of those GOP women for turning a blind eye on their “sisters” and painting them as enablers allowing these “men” to continue on this path thinking that its all “acceptable” behavior.

Then watch her bring up all of his bullshit business acumen and really indicate how DT has used the rules to stiff people he owes as he’s climbed that ladder, garnering his wealth through crooked business deals and litigation to wear down anyone lesser than himself.

There may not be enough popcorn and for some reason, I really think Hillary could make this happen by speaking directly to the people and circumventing the media spin.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:10:01pm

re: #208 whitebeach

Yikes! That’s, uh, kind of discouraging.

Rah… It’s all good. I’m truly hoping for a Goldwater/McGovern result.

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nickzi  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:10:06pm

re: #209 Kragar

I look forward to her explanation of the other 5,000 episodes from the life of Humpolini.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:11:00pm

re: #209 Kragar

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Susan Hutchison. Fuck almighty! Let’s talk about what your lord and savior Ronnie Raygun did when he was a Democrat, shall we?

Was she this big a nutjob when she was on the KING TV News?

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Varek Raith  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:11:36pm

Huh, I can see a large mushroom cloud in the sky.
No, wait, that’s just the Trump campaign.
Carry on.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:12:06pm

The thing is, Hillary gave the GOP the opportunity weeks ago to disavow support of Trump with her “alt-right” speech, then again with the “deplorables” remark. In both cases, she made certain to leave enough wiggle room that Republicans could argue that they didn’t fall into that group of people who approved of Trump’s remarks and actions.

But that opportunity has come and gone. At this point, you have no excuse. “I supported the nominee” is not a defense, it’s an indictment.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:13:05pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

And I do believe the response from the media and others was “Meh.”

As BlackLivesMatter has shown us, a videotape is worth a thousand verbal descriptions.

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whitebeach  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:13:49pm

re: #209 Kragar

Which of course explains why Trump is heading up the Democratic ticket.

These freakin people.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:14:54pm

re: #219 whitebeach

It goes on and on and on. It’s fucking maddening.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:17:22pm

re: #212 piratedan

what will be interesting is watching how the Clinton campaign will tie the entire GOP to this.. and while they’ll rebuke his statements, they won’t disavow him…

so I expect to see the entire laundry list of GOP “foibles” trotted out as reminders to women, just how the GOP has treated them…

Todd Akin, David Vitter, Hastert, the whole kit and caboodle of sexist, misogynist shit that has only floated to the surface occasionally… I can see it all being brought up and packaged. I wouldn’t be surprised to watch Hillary taint all of those GOP women for turning a blind eye on their “sisters” and painting them as enablers allowing these “men” to continue on this path thinking that its all “acceptable” behavior.

Then watch her bring up all of his bullshit business acumen and really indicate how DT has used the rules to stiff people he owes as he’s climbed that ladder, garnering his wealth through crooked business deals and litigation to wear down anyone lesser than himself.

There may not be enough popcorn and for some reason, I really think Hillary could make this happen by speaking directly to the people and circumventing the media spin.

A good link to keep handy:

The Republican Rape Advisory Chart
Tracking the Republican Party’s Disturbing Obsession with All Things Rape-Related

9 volumes plus a 2016 candidate edition

goprapeadvisorychart.com

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:17:23pm

Well, Matthew keeps churning up the coast , fucking up people’s lives, and it’s a non sequitur as far as this discussion is concerned. Understandable, given the degree of the Drumpf seppuku, but really, there’s other stuff going on, and it deserves our attention.

I’m off for the night, looking forward to mea culpas after this disaster for the R’s, and also looking forward to some concern and ways to to help the people devastated by this storm. They don’t need clothes and toys, they need money.

Here:

redcross.org

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:20:40pm

I too am heading to bed. It is raining, but nothing like what they predicted (yet) and no noticeable winds. Hope I can say the same tomorrow—oops, I guess I mean later this morning.

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Varek Raith  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:21:07pm

re: #221 BeachDem

A good link to keep handy:

The Republican Rape Advisory Chart
Tracking the Republican Party’s Disturbing Obsession with All Things Rape-Related

9 volumes plus a 2016 candidate edition

goprapeadvisorychart.com

That’s depressing.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:23:01pm

re: #223 BeachDem

How far are you from the shore?

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:25:37pm

Sunday is gonna be a horror show for Republicans. Best case scenario is we get “Low Energy Trump,” who manages to get through by just avoiding any major blow-ups. Worst case (and the most likely) scenario is Trump keeping rising to the bait, getting angry and defensive in a town hall setting, and ends up saying something that further hammers his already flagging poll numbers.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:29:56pm
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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:35:16pm

re: #226 Targetpractice

I expect the whole townhall thing to go something like this:

A question is asked about SS - Drumpfskind answers that lifelong politicians like Clinton have been raiding SS for years and only he can stop it.

A question will be asked about guns - Drumpfskind will go on and on about his good-guy-with-a-gun scenarios. The NRA will eat it up.

A question will be asked about college debt - Drumpfskind will go on and on about how teacher unions are destroying America and propose vouchers - the religious right will eat it up.

A question will be asked about taxes - Drumpfskind will repeat that he is very smart about taxes. The tea partiers will eat it up.

This is his kind of question-set - no real complicated questions about foreign policy or legislations.

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KGxvi  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:37:07pm

I wonder if the RNC would pull something like telling Republican electors to vote for someone else?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:37:18pm

4chan is not taking Trump’s apology very well….

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:50:49pm

“This was a private conversation and the public has no right to listen to what was spoken of in confidence…now let’s talk about the Podesta emails and how bad they look for Hillary!”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:52:54pm

re: #15 freetoken

Wikileaks and Politico desperately trying:

The most revealing Clinton campaign emails in WikiLeaks release

If that doesn’t make it obvious what side rickileaks is on…

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:58:52pm
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freetoken  Oct 7, 2016 • 11:59:10pm

re: #232 GlutenFreeJesus

Still, political hay will be made, or attempted to be made:

Hillary Clinton, In Paid Speeches To Wall Street, Promoted Commission That Pushed Social Security Cuts

During the Democratic presidential primary, Hillary Clinton was criticized for refusing to release the transcripts of paid speeches she gave after she ended her term as Secretary of State. Now, just a month before the election, a transparency group has published what it says are excerpts of those speeches — and the remarks show Clinton appearing to reassure Wall Street with rhetoric that differed from the kind she voiced in more public forums.

Sirota trying really hard.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:00:53am

re: #234 freetoken

Still, political hay will be made, or attempted to be made:

Hillary Clinton, In Paid Speeches To Wall Street, Promoted Commission That Pushed Social Security Cuts

Sirota trying really hard.

We’re going to get that for at least another day or so, the media trying so hard to turn the “Podesta Emails” into something as big as “Grab ‘em by the pussy.”

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:09:41am

re: #235 Targetpractice

Sirota, and his paymasters, are in the click-bait business. Even if at times we may enjoy his tackling some pecadillos of those we consider idiots, in the end Sirota and his associates will try to make a headline out of anything.

Notice this paragraph:

Clinton promised on the campaign trail that she would oppose the 12-nation Trans Pacific Partnership, and that she “will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages.” But in the email released by Wikileaks, she is shown telling a Brazilian bank that, “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders.” She also is quoted saying: “We have to resist protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access and to trade and I would like to see this get much more attention and be not just a policy for a year under president X or president Y but a consistent one.”

Why is what Clinton said to the Brazilian bank a bad thing, unless one is one of those Alex-Jones One-World-Order conspiracy types?

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teleskiguy  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:11:52am

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:13:31am

Not going to happen:

Sen. Mike Lee urges Trump to quit, as Utah Republicans abandon their party’s nominee

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), one of very few Republican senators who never endorsed Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, called tonight for the nominee to “step aside” and asked conservatives to find a new candidate. Echoing many Republicans who see Trump handing the presidency to Hillary Clinton, Lee said that the candidate’s insults of women were distracting from election-winning principles.

[…]

Those folk are just out to lunch. They are in denial of what is going on around them.

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nickzi  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:13:47am

re: #236 freetoken

Isn’t that paragraph part of some pretty obvious fakes that are being trotted out to bash Clinton? Sirota should know better.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:15:00am

re: #236 freetoken

Sirota, and his paymasters, are in the click-bait business. Even if at times we may enjoy his tackling some pecadillos of those we consider idiots, in the end Sirota and his associates will try to make a headline out of anything.

Notice this paragraph:

Why is what Clinton said to the Brazilian bank a bad thing, unless one is one of those Alex-Jones One-World-Order conspiracy types?

From the looks of the stories so far, by the time you get done cutting out the obvious fakes, you’re gonna find yourself with a pile of mush.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:17:49am

re: #239 nickzi

Anyone who references Wikileaks as “a transparency group” without really detailing the whole business about wikileaks, is not someone really interested in the whole story.

It’s click-bait for the knuckle-dragging Drumpfskindanhangers.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:20:33am

re: #238 freetoken

Not going to happen:

Sen. Mike Lee urges Trump to quit, as Utah Republicans abandon their party’s nominee

Those folk are just out to lunch. They are in denial of what is going on around them.

It is far too late for that now. The GOP is stuck with Trump. The only thing they can do now is hope and pray that he doesn’t take the Senate with him as his candidacy goes down in flames. IIRC, the GOP has acknowledged that they may well lose the Senate this election cycle, and I’m sure that for Reince and the rest of the RNC, their worst nightmare is starting to look like it’s about to become reality.

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas, as the old saw goes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:23:28am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

It is far too late for that now. The GOP is stuck with Trump. The only thing they can do now is hope and pray that he doesn’t take the Senate with him as his candidacy goes down in flames. IIRC, the GOP has acknowledged that they may well lose the Senate this election cycle, and I’m sure that for Reince and the rest of the RNC, their worst nightmare is starting to look like it’s about to become reality.

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas, as the old saw goes.

Not just the Senate, if Clinton’s margin of victory gets large enough, possibly the House as well. Imagine millions of GOP voters so disgusted they just don’t bother to turn out to vote.

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teleskiguy  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:23:31am
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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:24:21am

If you want a look at what the White House press releases would look like under a Trump administration, check out Breitbart right now. Soviet-era Pravda was less blatant about their bullshit.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:25:57am

re: #243 Big Beautiful Door

Not just the Senate, if Clinton’s margin of victory gets large enough, possibly the House as well. Imagine millions of GOP voters so disgusted they just don’t bother to turn out to vote.

That would be nice and I’d love to see it, but owing to extensive gerrymandering, I’d be genuinely surprised if the GOP lost the House as well. That being said, I think their majority will certainly be reduced.

I admit, if the GOP did lose the House, I’d certainly do a happy dance.

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sagehen  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:26:46am
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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:27:57am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

That would be nice and I’d love to see it, but owing to extensive gerrymandering, I’d be genuinely surprised if the GOP lost the House as well. That being said, I think their majority will certainly be reduced.

I admit, if the GOP did lose the House, I’d certainly do a happy dance.

I doubt they’ll lose the House, but you’re right that their margin will be greatly reduced. And those who likely pay the price will be Republicans in purple districts, the people the party leadership can least afford to lose because that means they’ll be stuck relying more heavily on the “Freedom Caucus” nutters to get shit done. Especially if Ryan wants to keep enforcing the “Hastert Rule.”

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:31:21am

re: #248 Targetpractice

Locally, Car Thief may be in danger. Removing him would be a big step forward to cleaning out Congress.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:32:23am

re: #249 freetoken

Locally, Car Thief may be in danger. Removing him would be a big step forward to cleaning out Congress.

Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:34:22am

re: #241 freetoken

Anyone who references Wikileaks as “a transparency group” without really detailing the whole business about wikileaks, is not someone really interested in the whole story.

It’s click-bait for the knuckle-dragging Drumpfskindanhangers.

We’ve got BernieBros quoting Breitbart and Prison Planet, we’ve got RWNJs quoting WikiLeaks—the circle of derp is now complete. Trouble is, it’s around our throats and being pulled tighter….

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:35:09am

re: #249 freetoken

Locally, Car Thief may be in danger. Removing him would be a big step forward to cleaning out Congress.

I saw that the other day - Issa may actually lose. Apparently, he’s got a strong opponent and Issa might get booted from the House.

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:39:41am

re: #227 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Almost perfect. “Sentient gamergate hashtag” should be “Gamergate hashtag”.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:41:40am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:41:56am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

That would be nice and I’d love to see it, but owing to extensive gerrymandering, I’d be genuinely surprised if the GOP lost the House as well. That being said, I think their majority will certainly be reduced.

I admit, if the GOP did lose the House, I’d certainly do a happy dance.

The thing that gives me hope is that I’m certain that Clinton has a line of people that Trump has victimized over the decades ready to tell their stories, and this latest revelation is hardly the last. The GOP nominated this monster for President, and how could they not, since he is the very embodiment of what the party stands for in the 21st Century.

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:42:58am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

That would be nice and I’d love to see it, but owing to extensive gerrymandering, I’d be genuinely surprised if the GOP lost the House as well. That being said, I think their majority will certainly be reduced.

I admit, if the GOP did lose the House, I’d certainly do a happy dance.

Remember, the fact that the GOP has gerrymandered the House makes them more vulnerable to catastrophic losses in this election than if they had made honest districts.

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teleskiguy  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:42:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:44:35am

re: #256 EPR-radar

Remember, the fact that the GOP has gerrymandered the House makes them more vulnerable to catastrophic losses in this election than if they had made honest districts.

How so? I admit, I’d never really considered that possibility.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:48:00am

re: #256 EPR-radar

Remember, the fact that the GOP has gerrymandered the House makes them more vulnerable to catastrophic losses in this election than if they had made honest districts.

And the closer to the bone they cut, the more fragile their gerrymander is. It varies state by state, but in a lot of them if even a small fraction of voters in their safe districts stay home, the whole thing blows up.

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:48:46am

re: #258 Dr Lizardo

How so? I admit, I’d never really considered that possibility.

In a GOP gerrymander, they will make a large number of districts that are just safe enough for R candidates, while concentrating Democrats into a small number of ultra-safe districts.

That just the kind of situation that can blow up in the GOP’s face with a walking smegma dispenser like Trump as the nominee.

Those R+5 districts might not be so safe any more.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:50:21am

re: #260 EPR-radar

In a GOP gerrymander, they will make a large number of districts that are just safe enough for R candidates, while concentrating Democrats into a small number of ultra-safe districts.

That just the kind of situation that can blow up in the GOP’s face with a walking smegma dispenser like Trump as the nominee.

Those R+5 districts might not be so safe any more.

You’d think 2006 would have taught them a lesson, but I guess not.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:50:50am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:51:26am

re: #260 EPR-radar

In a GOP gerrymander, they will make a large number of districts that are just safe enough for R candidates, while concentrating Democrats into a small number of ultra-safe districts.

That just the kind of situation that can blow up in the GOP’s face with a walking smegma dispenser like Trump as the nominee.

Those R+5 districts might not be so safe any more.

So if I understand correctly, if GOP voters are disgusted enough to stay home and Democratic voters are motivated enough to turn out en masse, then the gerrymander simply blows up.

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teleskiguy  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:52:10am

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

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Anymouse  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:53:40am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

That would be nice and I’d love to see it, but owing to extensive gerrymandering, I’d be genuinely surprised if the GOP lost the House as well. That being said, I think their majority will certainly be reduced.

I admit, if the GOP did lose the House, I’d certainly do a happy dance.

Gerrymandering can be overcome, when a candidate at the top of the ticket tanks horribly.

The essence of gerrymandering is you concentrate your opponents voters into as few districts as possible, to give your own party a narrow margin of victory in those that are left.

That narrow margin can be overcome in each gerrymandered district if the opposition (Dems in this case) are motivated to vote and the friendlies (Republicans) are not, or vote for the opposite party.

Consider my own gerrymandered state (Nebraska). [yes, you can gerrymander three districts]. Omaha and inner suburbs are walled off as a single concentrated Democratic-Republican even district. (That’s why we got a Democratic representative from there in the last election, and an electoral vote went to President Obama in 2012.)

Lincoln’s district (second-largest city) includes much of the rural area, and the remaining rural area is one district. (A district map of Nebraska looks like concentric circles spreading west from Omaha.)

Omaha has a good chance of going Democratic again this year. Lincoln, reliably Republican due to the large rural area attached to it, is in trouble if large numbers of Republicans stay home. (That would yield two Democratic representatives.)

The remaining district (NE3) will go for Trump. If Clinton took significantly more votes in Lincoln and Omaha, that would overcome NE-3’s majority of voters (NE-3 has more voters than the other two districts each). Four electoral votes to Clinton, one to Trump.

In states that do not split electoral votes, they would all go to Clinton if significant numbers of Republicans stayed home or did not vote for President.

That said, there is always the fear-factor in conservative voting (guns, abortion, &c). Those might be enough to overcome the downsides of Mr. Trump.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:54:42am

re: #258 Dr Lizardo

How so? I admit, I’d never really considered that possibility.

They create lots of districts with small GOP majorities to maximize the number of districts they win.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:56:43am

re: #261 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You’d think 2006 would have taught them a lesson, but I guess not.

Well it has worked for them because they have retained control of the House even when most people voted (D) in House elections. But if millions of GOP voters stay home, then those seats can be flipped.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 12:57:54am

re: #265 Anymouse

Gerrymandering can be overcome, when a candidate at the top of the ticket tanks horribly.

The essence of gerrymandering is you concentrate your opponents voters into as few districts as possible, to give your own party a narrow margin of victory in those that are left.

That narrow margin can be overcome in each gerrymandered district if the opposition (Dems in this case) are motivated to vote and the friendlies (Republicans) are not, or vote for the opposite party.

Consider my own gerrymandered state (Nebraska). [yes, you can gerrymander three districts]. Omaha and inner suburbs are walled off as a single concentrated Democratic-Republican even district. (That’s why we got a Democratic representative from there in the last election, and an electoral vote went to President Obama in 2012.)

Lincoln’s district (second-largest city) includes much of the rural area, and the remaining rural area is one district. (A district map of Nebraska looks like concentric circles spreading west from Omaha.)

Omaha has a good chance of going Democratic again this year. Lincoln, reliably Republican due to the large rural area attached to it, is in trouble if large numbers of Republicans stay home. (That would yield two Democratic representatives.)

The remaining district (NE3) will go for Trump. If Clinton took significantly more votes in Lincoln and Omaha, that would overcome NE-3’s majority of voters (NE-3 has more voters than the other two districts each). Four electoral votes to Clinton, one to Trump.

In states that do not split electoral votes, they would all go to Clinton if significant numbers of Republicans stayed home or did not vote for President.

That said, there is always the fear-factor in conservative voting (guns, abortion, &c). Those might be enough to overcome the downsides of Mr. Trump.

An excellent explanation. Then there is a chance that because Trump is so utterly repellent, he exerts a serious demotivating factor on GOP voters and if the Democrats have a solid GOTV effort and ground game, then the GOP could indeed lose the House as well as the Senate (provided the GOP doesn’t rapidly counter to focus on the down ticket races in order to save their position).

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:01:24am
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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:03:39am

re: #269 goddamnedfrank

Damn that’s funny. Let’s reword it a bit: “When it comes to Trump’s celebrating and promoting women, ‘grab them by the pussy’ is just the beginning.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:04:44am

re: #268 Dr Lizardo

An excellent explanation. Then there is a chance that because Trump is so utterly repellent, he exerts a serious demotivating factor on GOP voters and if the Democrats have a solid GOTV effort and ground game, then the GOP could indeed lose the House as well as the Senate (provided the GOP doesn’t rapidly counter to focus on the down ticket races in order to save their position).

If I’m reading Sam Wang’s chart correctly, the Democrats have to win by 6 points overall to get an evenly-divided house. So 53/47 to get 50/50. In 2014, Dems won 51.2/48.8 but the seats went ~54/46 the other way. It looks like the generic Congressional poll is within a point of that 6-point lead right now….

Edited to subtract: Something stupid.

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:06:24am

re: #271 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The VP breaks ties in the Senate. I don’t know how ties in the House are dealt with.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:08:50am

re: #272 EPR-radar

The VP breaks ties in the Senate. I don’t know how ties in the House are death with.

Refresh my comment. I was looking at both the House and Senate and had a senior moment.

Sam gives the Dems a 73% chance of taking the senate, by the way.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:10:10am

re: #271 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If I’m reading Sam Wang’s chart correctly, the Democrats have to win by 6 points overall to get an evenly-divided house (Hopefully the Democratic VP would be the deciding vote.) So 53/47 to get 50/50. In 2014, Dems won 51.2/48.8 but the seats went ~54/46 the other way. It looks like the generic Congressional poll is within a point of that 6-point lead right now….

Hillary’s lead is up to 5.7 points in 538’s polls only model, and that is only going to increase after this story and Trump’s upcoming awful debate performance. By the end of next week she could be up by 8-9 points, making a House victory possible.

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piratedan  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:10:46am

and that’s the thing, with a candidate like Trump in place, there’s a fair to partly cloudy chance that he seriously depresses the vote amongst the GOP and even converts a few people away from the GOP brand altogether with the train of thought of thinking that if that guy is the best that the GOP has to offer, perhaps my own values need to be re-examined. Not saying that would be widespread, but I have to think that some folks over on the GOP side are forced to re-examine their own politics.

DF excepted, naturally.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:12:53am

re: #274 Big Beautiful Door

Hillary’s lead is up to 5.7 points in 538’s polls only model, and that is only going to increase after this story and Trump’s upcoming awful debate performance. By the end of next week she could be up by 8-9 points, making a House victory possible.

I don’t want to be accused of skewing the polls, but I can’t help but remember that in 2012, the average was over 3 points pessimistic for Obama, so if you add that to what we’re seeing now…. Not a prediction, but a possibility.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:25:06am

re: #273 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Refresh my comment. I was looking at both the House and Senate and had a senior moment.

Sam gives the Dems a 73% chance of taking the senate, by the way.

Its almost dead even according to Silver, but I bet the odds change in the Democrats failure a lot next week. Ayotte’s endorsement of Trump as a role model looks even worse now.

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SteelPH  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:26:42am

re: #275 piratedan

and that’s the thing, with a candidate like Trump in place, there’s a fair to partly cloudy chance that he seriously depresses the vote amongst the GOP and even converts a few people away from the GOP brand altogether with the train of thought of thinking that if that guy is the best that the GOP has to offer, perhaps my own values need to be re-examined. Not saying that would be widespread, but I have to think that some folks over on the GOP side are forced to re-examine their own politics.

DF excepted, naturally.

I’m blocked from his Twitter feed. Has he said anything lately?

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teleskiguy  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:27:41am

@FatMike_of_NOFX is telling all his punker peers to vote against Trump right now on Twitter. It’s pretty cool.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:36:17am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:39:31am

re: #280 goddamnedfrank

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I can’t imagine why any deep-pocketed donor would give another dime to Trump’s campaign.

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piratedan  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:44:18am

re: #281 Big Beautiful Door

neither can I, he’s got a corpse of a campaign and I hope it cripples GOP fundraising over all as all of these bible thumping, slut shaming, starving the poor prosperity pulpit types have their sexist, racist, know-nothing asses sent home.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:51:00am

Off topic: Anybody else watching Westworld? I’m pretty much hooked. It feels like what LOST could’ve become if the writers had anything resembling a real plan. Love the way they’re exploring the nature of ethics, sentience, reality, free will and self identity.

Also, I really want a reproduction LeMat revolver now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:52:17am

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

Off topic: Anybody else watching Westworld? I’m pretty much hooked. It feels like what LOST could’ve become if the writers had anything resembling a real plan. Love the way they’re exploring the nature of ethics, sentience, reality, free will and self identity.

Also, I really want a reproduction LeMat revolver now.

Yes, the first episode was pretty awesome.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:55:27am

re: #284 Big Beautiful Door

Yes, the first episode was pretty awesome.

They released the second one early.

P.S. Jeffrey Wright follows me on Twitter.

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Jayleia  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:57:14am

re: #278 SteelPH

I’m blocked from his Twitter feed. Has he said anything lately?

Nothing re: the recent Dumpster Fire.

But he’s still being his usual self…I’ll never understand him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 1:58:46am

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

They released the second one early.

P.S. Jeffrey Wright follows me on Twitter.

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Thanks, and here I was waiting until Sunday. Name dropper.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:00:56am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:05:35am

Apparently, Trump won’t be attending an upcoming political event in WI with Speaker Ryan:

House Speaker Paul Ryan asked Donald Trump not to attend a campaign event with him Saturday in his home state of Wisconsin, according to two people familiar with the discussions, following the disclosure Friday of a 2005 video where the Republican presidential candidate makes lewd comments about women.

Ryan and Trump did not speak personally on Friday, one of them said.

Ryan said in statement late Friday that Trump “is no longer attending” the event - a festival in Ryan’s Wisconsin congressional district.

“I am sickened by what I heard today,” Ryan said. “Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. I hope Mr. Trump treats this situation with the seriousness it deserves and works to demonstrate to the country that he has greater respect for women than this clip suggests.”

In a short statement issued moments after Ryan’s, Trump said his running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, “will be representing me” at the Wisconsin event while he remained in New York to prepare for Sunday’s town hall debate.

Pence, was “beside himself” and his wife was furious, a person familiar with their thinking told the Associated Press. That person spoke on the condition of anonymity, because they were not authorized to share the private discussion.

chicagotribune.com

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:07:46am
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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:10:07am

Looks like the eye of Matthew has finally come ashore. Parts of SE SC have had many hours of rain by now.

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Anymouse  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:10:20am
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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:13:12am

So, I wonder what today’s October Surprise will be?

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:21:21am

re: #65 jaunte

Badly lit is an understatement. He looks like he hasn’t taken shower for quite a while, while cleaning smokestacks.

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Anymouse  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:21:59am
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Jayleia  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:22:52am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Probably a WikiLeaks doc drop that says that Hillary chose the bunny rabbit assignment a half-century ago over an assignment to watch puppies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:24:40am

re: #275 piratedan

and that’s the thing, with a candidate like Trump in place, there’s a fair to partly cloudy chance that he seriously depresses the vote amongst the GOP and even converts a few people away from the GOP brand altogether with the train of thought of thinking that if that guy is the best that the GOP has to offer, perhaps my own values need to be re-examined. Not saying that would be widespread, but I have to think that some folks over on the GOP side are forced to re-examine their own politics.

DF excepted, naturally.

I think the main effect will be to depress the GOP vote and most of all to motivate LOTS of Democratic voters, especially women and minorities, to get out there and make sure he gets trounced.

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Anymouse  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:25:16am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:27:09am

re: #102 Alyosha

Besides Hannity confused David with Solomon. And Solomon ended up betraying Yahweh *exactly* because of his wives and concubines.

Bible: sometimes it’s useful to actually read it.

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Anymouse  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:28:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:30:14am

re: #299 Nyet

Besides Hannity confused David with Solomon. And Solomon ended up betraying Yahweh *exactly* because of his wives and concubines.

Bible: sometimes it’s useful to actually read it.

Two out of three Corinthians agree!

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:31:00am

I don’t know what further surprises tomorrow may bring, but I’ma enjoy this moment for all it’s worth.

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Anymouse  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:33:13am

Donald Trump Still Needs to See Copy of Central Park Five’s Long Form DNA (goes to Wonkette)

He insists the Central Park Five are guilty, when they are clearly not. He insists that stop and frisk is effective and constitutional, when it is not. He is for the death penalty (for a non-capital crime, no less), which is clearly a stupid thing to have when false convictions — like the Central Park Five case — happen all the time.

It is, of course, totally possible that Trump is simply stuck in 1989 and has not yet heard about Reyes’ confession and all the DNA evidence. If so, he will certainly be saddened to find out that Cheers has since been canceled and that Pluto is no longer an official planet. Perhaps he has simply become unstuck in time and is unaware of many new developments in general. Like the fact that women and black people can vote now! That would certainly explain some of the things he felt comfortable saying out loud and in front of people.

Either that or he is just a deeply stupid person.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:35:12am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Solomon was sort of a Trump of his day. Built all the best, yuge things out of gold - the greatest. Strived to make Israel and Judah great again. Had many wives and concubines. And fell because he grabbed too much pussy.

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Anymouse  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:37:18am

re: #304 Nyet

Solomon was sort of a Trump of his day. Built all the best, yuge things out of gold - the greatest. He strived to make Israel and Judah great again. Had many wives and concubines. And fell because he grabbed too much pussy.

I am betting my local conservative newspaper (which sent out an E-mail a couple weeks ago asking if it was too liberal) will either bury the lede on this one, or simply not report it.

Of the huge number of Trump campaign signs around my county, I will be interested in seeing how many come down (if any) over the next few days.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:40:32am

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

It’s new bottoms all the way down, young man.

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Alyosha  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:41:14am

re: #304 Nyet

Solomon was sort of a Trump of his day. Built all the best, yuge things out of gold - the greatest. Strived to make Israel and Judah great again. Had many wives and concubines. And fell because he grabbed too much pussy.

Trump is a wise guy, too.

(In the mafioso sense)

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:42:57am

re: #234 freetoken

Anything Sirota can be safely ignored.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:45:20am

re: #307 Alyosha

Trump is a wise guy, too.

(In the mafioso sense)

Those stories about Solomon’s wisdom show him to be a fan of simplistic solutions.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:47:02am

re: #309 Nyet

Those stories about Solomon’s wisdom show him to be a fan of simplistic solutions.

Maybe they’ll throw Trump off the ticket and cut Mike Pence in half so he can fill both slots.

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Anymouse  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:48:27am

Samantha Bee on the Vice-Presidential debate:

Meet the Veeps

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:48:38am

re: #310 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maybe they’ll throw Trump off the ticket and cut Mike Pence in half so he can fill both slots.

Pence’s butt could pass for Trump.

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William Lewis  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:51:12am

re: #299 Nyet

Besides Hannity confused David with Solomon. And Solomon ended up betraying Yahweh *exactly* because of his wives and concubines.

Bible: sometimes it’s useful to actually read it.

Oh yes. It’s also good to remember that David “only” lost a son because he sincerely repented when rebuked by Nathan. Others who were less sincere came out worse off.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:54:20am

re: #135 bratwurst

So confusing when two people I dislike greatly are fighting each other:

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For me the difference is, I could probably grab a beer with today’s Erick (yes, I know all about his history, comments and views), but I would steer clear of Adams, who seems like a mix of a creepy pedo and a concentration camp doctor both in looks and demeanor.

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William Lewis  Oct 8, 2016 • 2:54:29am

re: #309 Nyet

Those stories about Solomon’s wisdom show him to be a fan of simplistic solutions.

Ding ding ding. Lots of folks don’t get that. I have taught that the whole bit of him being wise reads more like satire and hyperbole than truth.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:02:08am

I wonder if Trump’s (or his spawn”s) comments on Jews are forthcoming… You know they probably uttered some things.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:06:31am

Beyond those excerpts, the emails affirm the campaign’s reputation for extreme caution, with an eagerness to proactively influence news coverage.

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Jayleia  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:06:33am

re: #316 Nyet

We already know he likes short guys that wear yarmulkes to count his money.

I’m sure it gets worse…it ALWAYS gets worse with Trump.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:10:21am

re: #2 Skip Intro

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:13:10am

lolol

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:14:48am

re: #320 Nyet

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:18:28am

re: #320 Nyet

lolol

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Waiter, yes……I’ll have what Mr. Kristol is drinking. Thanks.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:19:30am

What is different from the locker room banter is that Trump explicitly explains how he misuses the power differential (his stardom) to sexually assault women.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:22:08am

re: #323 Nyet

What is different from the locker room banter is that Trump explicitly explains how he misuses the power differential (his stardom) to sexually assault women.

so now trump has almost completely lost women, latinos and blacks…he will REALLY have to fire up his base of racist, sexist white male assholes to make up the difference…

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:23:29am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The next debate’s gonna be a yuge dumpster fire.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:24:39am

re: #325 Nyet

The next debate’s gonna be a yuge dumpster fire.

He has already telegraphed his punches about bringing up Bill C’s affairs. He is going to go there…

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:25:26am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:26:44am

re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I hope Hillary lets him self-destroy. She should be mum about all of this and let him make the first attack.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:26:53am

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

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This much schadenfreude cannot be good for my health.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:29:12am

re: #329 Targetpractice

This much schadenfreude cannot be good for my health.

Hey, Doc, you know, I’ve been getting these funny little pains lately and shortness of breath and just feeling weird the last few weeks. Could you maybe check my schadenfreude level? I hear it’s not good if it’s too high.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:29:39am

re: #328 Nyet

I hope Hillary lets him self-destroy. She should be mum about all of this and let him make the first attack.

I can’t see how the moderators don’t bring it up right off the bat, instant shit-show.

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Danack  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:30:01am

re: #280 goddamnedfrank

Trump will remain the candidate tho’, unless he quits, which he probably won’t do because being called a quitter would gut him emotionally.

I still think he would love to find a way to withdraw, because although being called a quitter would be bad, being called a loser is unbearable for Trump.

Also, I think the townhall style ‘debate’ on Sunday could be ‘dramatic’. Not only has Trump not been practicing much, the chaos of this week is going to make him tired for Sunday, as you just know that he won’t have got much sleep last night.

I wonder if someone is going to release another thing that he needs to respond quickly to later today, to again make him have another night of bad sleep.

Having to think on his feet to respond to people’s questions is going to wear him out; in the only practice townhall he did, he left after 30 minutes…….staying and responding sensibly for 90 minutes is going to be a struggle.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:32:28am

re: #331 goddamnedfrank

Sux.

Optimal scenario: Trump can’t wait and attacks Bill out of the blue.
Hillary: yeah, about that…

If Hillary has to “defend” first, this is not so good, rhetorically.

Advantage: Bill is ancient history.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:32:48am

re: #237 teleskiguy

Please relay our heartfelt congratulations!

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:33:57am

And as always: as bad as Bill could have been, he’s not running.

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Jayleia  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:35:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:35:10am

re: #335 Nyet

And as always: as bad as Bill could have been, he’s not running.

This, which if I were Mrs. Clinton, would be my response. “Yes, and? Bill’s not running, you know, so what does that have to do with anything?” and then just laugh and do an eyeroll.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:37:56am

re: #336 Jayleia

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Fuckin’ A, is Kristol unaware of the simple fact that people have already started voting? That absentee ballots have already gone out, in the case of some of us earlybirds, have already been mailed back? I voted for Hillary of course, but what about those who voted for Trump? Is Kristol suggesting those votes just be ignored or given to Mitt Romney?

Seriously, Bill Kristol, isn’t it too early in the morning to be hitting the sauce?

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:38:16am

re: #337 Dr Lizardo

Keep focus on the garbage-man.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:39:17am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Kristol is always like this. Inner sauce.

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Jayleia  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:41:11am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

It’s Bill Kristol. Bill “Always Wrong” Kristol. Even when he’s right about the GOP needing to get as far away from Trump as possible, he’s Always Wrong.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:41:42am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Another one who slept through the civics class:

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Dave In Austin  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:42:39am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:43:09am

re: #342 Nyet

Another one who slept through the civics class:

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Yeah, there seems to be whole lot of folks who slept through High School Civics classes. Oddly enough, a large preponderance of them seem to be in the GOP……..

Funny, that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:44:15am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:45:20am

I wonder if the “well, at least he’s not a faggot” defense has already appeared.

I suspect I’ll find a lot of this on the Russian side of the web.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:47:08am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:50:04am

Adams:

12. I hereby change my endorsement from Trump to Gary Johnson, just to get out of the blast zone. Others will be “parking” their vote with Johnson the same way. The “shy Trump supporter” demographic just tripled.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:55:49am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:57:36am

re: #347 Nyet
I assume William’s ding is a typo ;)

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 3:57:49am

re: #335 Nyet

And as always: as bad as Bill could have been, he’s not running.

It always comes down to that, and the fact that whatever Trump tries to say about Bill at best just comes off now as a pathetic deflection. Hillary on the other hand can easily say that, then extend the discussion down a myriad of legitimate policy / platform detours having to do with reproductive freedom, equal pay and maternity / parental leave. All of which offer her a chance to present stark differences and occupy the moral high ground while not having it come off as a flagrant dodge. Also, whenever she wants it there’s the omnipresent issue of temperament, which has repeatedly proven to get under Donald’s skin.

She can also use yesterday’s “apology” as a pivot to question him about when he changed his mind about Obama’s legitimacy, what actually made him change his mind and doesn’t he owe Obama an apology too. She can pivot to the Central Park 5, how they were totally exonerated by DNA evidence and how this very week Trump refused to admit he was wrong about them.

Assuming he even shows up she’s going to lure him into the minefield, watch him blow himself up, and then spend the rest of her time circling while clinically describing his wounds to the audience.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:04:41am

re: #346 Nyet

I wonder if the “well, at least he’s not a faggot” defense has already appeared.

I suspect I’ll find a lot of this on the Russian side of the web.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:06:22am

re: #352 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

No surprises there. Expect this to make Trump even more popular among that demo.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:06:52am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:08:06am

re: #354 Nyet

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He’s right on that one - he’s having a broken clock moment.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:08:59am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

Like a broken clock, Kristol is right twice a day.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:10:44am

re: #353 Nyet

No surprises there. Expect this to make Trump even more popular among that demo.

The MRA guys here in the USA are already lapping it up.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:11:02am

re: #346 Nyet

I wonder if the “well, at least he’s not a faggot” defense has already appeared.

I suspect I’ll find a lot of this on the Russian side of the web.

Well, there you go - the first comment under that article:

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:11:14am

OK, Lizards, your opinions. I’m planning on acquiring a new timepiece. I’m trying to choose between an Invicta and a Hamilton.

The Invicta: timestore.cz

The Hamilton: timestore.cz

They’re both automatics. Pricewise, yes the Hamilton is twice as much, but it has a Swiss ETA movement, so that’s to be expected, whereas the Invicta uses a Citizen movement.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:17:46am

Pence has been predicted to be the GOP’s future just a few days ago.

Now, maybe not so much.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:21:59am

re: #360 Nyet

Pence has been predicted to be the GOP’s future just a few days ago.

Now, maybe not so much.

His name is going to end up badly tarnished by his association with Trump; by the time 2020 comes around, I’d say his chances are slim. He could, I suppose, drop out right now and say it’s the “morally right” thing to do, which would likely tear the Trump campaign apart and essentially ensure that Hillary gets elected next month - on the other hand, such a move by Pence would earn him the perpetual wrath of the Trump/Teahadi wing of the GOP, who would see him as the ‘traitor’ who got Hillary elected.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:27:39am
Her ticket faces a steep uphill battle for media attention, public recognition, and ultimately votes. Officially, the McMullin campaign’s strategy is to prevent both Clinton and Trump from reaching 270 electoral college votes, thereby throwing the election to the House of Representatives, which could then select McMullin.

tabletmag.com

Dr. Evil “Riiiiight”

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:27:53am

Trump supporters are LOL.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:31:46am

re: #363 goddamnedfrank

Trump supporters are LOL.

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Makes you wonder how many Trumpistas have police records.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:32:10am

re: #362 Nyet

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Well, the only time that happened, they did pick the third place finisher, so who knows?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:36:54am
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Teukka  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:39:54am

OT, but developing story out of Chemnitz, Sachsen, Germany:
The Independent Chemnitz bombing plot: German city on lockdown as armed police launch operation against planned terror attack

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:41:53am

re: #366 goddamnedfrank

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Future scholars will concentrate on determining obvious anagram Reince Priebus’ real name. I like “Crib Pees Urine”….

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Alyosha  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:45:08am

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:46:16am

Politico, in their finest form for a tag line, notes:

Is Trump’s campaign over?

The Republican nominee’s talk of sexually preying on women makes Romney’s ‘47 percent’ tape seem like a high-minded Great Courses lecture.

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William Lewis  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:48:14am

re: #350 Nyet

I assume William’s ding is a typo ;)

Yeah, phone UI bit me again. Fixed now.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 4:59:39am

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:01:03am

We need Teeth 2.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:01:30am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:07:16am

And don’t forget to vote for Trump!
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:12:19am

re: #368 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Future scholars will concentrate on determining obvious anagram Reince Priebus’ real name. I like “Crib Pees Urine”….

Maybe I should switch to an anagram of my real name. I kinda like “A Larval Drink King”. Thoughts?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:13:36am

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:17:11am

re: #377 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And with this you have inadvertently revealed your real name, Vaginal Lark Drink!

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Birth Control Works  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:25:55am

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Birth Control Works  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:27:06am

back to bed to finish my night’s sleep

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:28:08am

This video is amazing.

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jeffreyw  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:28:33am

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Good morning! Mommy says I’m fixed now, but she blushes and stammers when I ask her how I was broken.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:29:06am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:31:01am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:34:18am

re: #383 jeffreyw

Now you eat dogs for breakfast?//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:35:13am

My sister in Ormond Beach sent me photos of the damage at her house.
yowser…”it’s a mess” doesn’t even begin to describe the damage.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:36:49am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

But I was assured by the most reliable sources it’s all a govt hoax!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:38:24am

re: #388 Nyet

But I was assured by the most reliable sources it’s all a govt hoax!

Yes, she was so relieved to hear that…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:40:05am

re: #384 goddamnedfrank

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That’s my Congresswoman. She’s scared of being dragged down with Trump. Sorry Barbara but your party nominated this asshole. He’s yours. You have to deal with the consequences of nominating him and if it means you go down with him, that’s fine too. I for one am excited about the possibility of having a Democratic Congresswoman for once in my life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:40:38am

BTW, Donald himself has not tweeted anything since the VP debate.
All tweets since then have been his campaign staff tweeting via iPhone, including the “apology” video.

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:40:38am

re: #342 Nyet

Another one who slept through the civics class:

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Haha, that’s my district.
Her opponent, Bennett, recently released an ad tying Comstock to Trump.
Must’ve hit a nerve.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:42:19am

re: #392 Varek Raith

Haha, that’s my district.
Her opponent, Bennett, recently released an ad tying Comstock to Trump.
Must’ve hit a never.

Bennett’s running a hell of a campaign. This is probably the most competitive race I’ve ever seen in our district. I saw that ad too though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:43:05am

people like this have no fucking clue how disaster response works:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:43:34am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW, Donald himself has not tweeted anything since the VP debate.
All tweets since then have been his campaign staff tweeting via iPhone, including the “apology” video.

I’m surprised The Donald doesn’t have a spare phone, just for this kind of emergency.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:43:47am
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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:44:13am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

people like this have no fucking clue how disaster response works:

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It isn’t ‘Post Storm’ in that area.
Duh.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:44:38am

re: #396 Nyet

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And the GOP would still learn nothing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:44:41am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

people like this have no fucking clue how disaster response works:

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He and that angry lady who missed her cruise liner should get together and share their tales of woe.

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:45:32am

re: #399 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He and that angry lady who missed her cruise liner should get together and share their tales of woe.

Put them on that cruise and send the into the storm.
/

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:47:59am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:48:04am

1. Loser.

2. Appeaser.

3. Predator.

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:49:03am

95 in SC underwater.
Yeesh.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:52:48am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:53:34am

re: #400 Varek Raith

Put them on that cruise and send the into the storm.
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Ship of Fools

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:53:34am

re: #390 HappyWarrior

That’s my Congresswoman. She’s scared of being dragged down with Trump. Sorry Barbara but your party nominated this asshole. He’s yours. You have to deal with the consequences of nominating him and if it means you go down with him, that’s fine too. I for one am excited about the possibility of having a Democratic Congresswoman for once in my life.

Yep, and Comstock has been running a bunch of ads featuring her daughter talking about how important women issues are to her.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:56:58am

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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 5:58:17am

re: #218 sagehen

As BlackLivesMatter has shown us, a videotape is worth a thousand verbal descriptions.

Because, to republicans, black votes don’t matter but white women’s votes surely do.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:00:21am

re: #406 Timothy Watson

Yep, and Comstock has been running a bunch of ads featuring her daughter talking about how important women issues are to her.

Which is pretty funny since she’s anti-choice and anti-equal pay. I’m sure Comstock is a good mother but an advocate for women she’s never been.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:00:29am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:09:24am

Some liars are trying to make this crazy person spam into a “Podesta email”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:09:38am

re: #410 Dr. Matt

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Man they are delusional. Hey nice try though guys. Nah not really because you’re stupid and you’re going down on the S.S. Trump.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:14:39am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Man they are delusional. Hey nice try though guys. Nah not really because you’re stupid and you’re going down on the S.S. Trump.

They are a soulless, vile, and dangerous cult.

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jeffreyw  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:17:11am

re: #386 Nyet

Now you eat dogs for breakfast?//

Only curly dogs. Slaw is not optional.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:20:38am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:21:19am

re: #413 Dr. Matt

Nice token felon you have there, Sean.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:22:29am

re: #416 Nyet

Nice token felon you have there, Sean.

and he doubles as a big-screen projector

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:25:33am

re: #416 Nyet

Nice token felon you have there, Sean.

He’s one of the most flawed conservative talking heads and yet Lumpy goes to him for opinion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:26:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:27:05am
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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:29:47am

re: #299 Nyet

Besides Hannity confused David with Solomon. And Solomon ended up betraying Yahweh *exactly* because of his wives and concubines.

Bible: sometimes it’s useful to actually read it.

I stolded that!

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:29:49am

George Allen, still an asshole:

Former Virginia Gov. and U.S. Sen. George Allen said he helped coach Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence for his debate against Democrat Tim Kaine, who debated Allen four years ago.

In an interview this week with radio host Rita Cosby of New York’s WABC, Allen said he met with Pence last month to tell him what to expect from Kaine, who beat Allen in a U.S. Senate race four years ago.

Shortly before Kaine’s selection as Hillary Clinton’s running mate, Allen praised Kaine as a skilled politician with a rare inclination for bipartisanship. But Allen panned Kaine’s performance in Tuesday night’s debate, saying he came across as “snippy” and “an ankle biter.”

richmond.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:30:29am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

The @realDonaldTrump tape was appalling, but it wasn’t at all surprising. The “shocked” @GOP pols scrambling for cover now look ridiculous.

They must have been aware that although Hillary carries a steamer trunk full of potentially damaging baggage, the Trump transports his by the container lot and his people have made few attempts to secure it or make pre-emptive plans.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:31:36am

Really, forcing Trump to make his “apology” was a colossal waste of time, because there will eventually be another clip of him saying or doing something equally repulsive. What are his handlers going to do then? Force him to make another non-pology?

If they thought his fake apology was going to help this time, they were just plain stupid.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:32:00am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can’t help but wonder what the next shoe to drop is going to be? Trump is nothing less than Montezuma’s Treasure for opposition researchers - an unending, bottomless trove of fatuous and repellent statements and the facts of his shady business practices to use against him.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:35:59am

Deplorable @scottienhughes in typical fashion attacks Trump’s victims for not coming forward sooner. #trumptapes @smerconish

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:36:01am

re: #425 Dr Lizardo

I can’t help but wonder what the next shoe to drop is going to be? Trump is nothing less than Montezuma’s Treasure for opposition researchers - an unending, bottomless trove of fatuous and repellent statements and the facts of his shady business practices to use against him.

Trump’s name is going to end up in history books as a symbol for dishonesty and corruption, like Ponzi, Tammany Hall and Boss Tweed.

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dangerman  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:39:41am

he is a vile and despicable human being in how he thinks of and treats other human beings.

“deplorable” doesnt come close.

none of this apology, explanation, talk, rationalization, analysis, by anyone on any side matters any more. even my words right here are pointless.

with a tremendous amount of frightening support and encouragement he has taken american politics to a very dark place.

this is no longer absurd political theater. he is a sociopathic cruel, nasty pig.

so the only political thing i will say is it is still unclear how much of that “40%” remains

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:39:55am

re: #427 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump’s name is going to end up in history books as a symbol for dishonesty and corruption, like Ponzi, Tammany Hall and Boss Tweed.

I would add also as a symbol for a gasbag who’s out of his depth and wholly incompetent for the office he seeks.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:40:58am

re: #421 MsJ

I’m flattered :)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:41:34am

Security camera records storm surge hitting a man’s house in Florida.

Instagram

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:42:32am

You can’t use “deplorable” ironically when you really are.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:45:21am

re: #422 Timothy Watson

George Allen, still an asshole:

richmond.com

I’m so glad Kaine ended that bigot’s career for good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:48:22am

a couple of pics from my sister’s place in Ormond Beach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:49:00am
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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:51:21am

re: #399 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He and that angry lady who missed her cruise liner should get together and share their tales of woe.

She apparently had travel insurance that wouldn’t pay because the ship was sailing (off into a hurricane). She couldn’t get there because the flights were canceled. Something is off though because why have travel insurance if it won’t cover this? She never responded when I asked her about that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:52:42am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:53:15am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

Laura is a walking Downfall parody.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:53:47am
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dangerman  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:54:10am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

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that was his ultimate secret plan all along
to force the nyt into a corner and do his bidding

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:55:21am

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

They like him because probably they are like him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:55:39am

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

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dangerman  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:55:53am

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

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“i just would never let him near my wife or family so im not concerned”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:56:31am

re: #439 Nyet

Laura is a walking Downfall parody.

Competing for the “Miss Conciseness” sash.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 6:58:41am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:00:16am

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

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I have a monthly meetup just like that. Since the beginning of the campaign I have got one to vote third party, one has moved and emails us RWNJ tropes, one has died, and I go on volunteering for HRC.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:02:01am

Which surge is larger?
1) the sea water from Hurricane Matthew;
2) the vortex of derp from defenders of Drumpfskind’s groping?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:03:16am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yawn.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:03:43am

re: #437 MsJ

She apparently had travel insurance that wouldn’t pay because the ship was sailing (off into a hurricane). She couldn’t get there because the flights were canceled. Something is off though because why have travel insurance if it won’t cover this? She never responded when I asked her about that.

I reckon she booked the flight and the cruise separately, and only paid for insurance on the cruise. That’s one drawback to DIY travel planning. Had she booked it all through a travel agent, or as a package with the cruise line, the flight cancellation could have been included.

Then again, she might have done that and didn’t read the fine print. “Acts of God” are often excluded.

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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:04:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:04:33am

referencing a Mother Jones article from March:

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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:07:56am
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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:10:49am
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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:10:59am

re: #451 MsJ

Just can’t imagine Drumpfskind stepping down.

His only plan right now has to be to become as famous as possible, by whatever means. The more impact he has, even negative, the more lucrative his post-election career.

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dangerman  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:11:28am

his remaining support - these pretzel logic “explainers” are not just blindly voting for the “R”

this is *active*, voluntary defense of his behavior

trump is right. he could shoot someone and not lose any votes

because these people are too stupid and/or sychophantic to have any objective clue what he’d done

trump is a pig and there is an illness in anyone continuing to support him as a candidate and as a human

Reince must be proud

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:12:00am
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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:13:37am
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dangerman  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:13:39am

re: #454 MsJ

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:13:43am
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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:17:25am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:17:55am

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sagehen  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:22:02am

re: #413 Dr. Matt

They are a soulless, vile, and dangerous cult.

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Are they somehow forgetting that what Bill Clinton did was the subject of all-day every-day cable news for months on end, front page every day for months on end, endless blog posts, tens of millions of dollars of special prosecutor investigation with subpoena power, hearings…. it wasn’t brushed off. Not by a long shot.

If Donald Trump gets a few weeks attention for this, don’t try to call it “unprecedented” or “uneven” or “biased” coverage.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:22:19am

re: #454 MsJ

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I shared that with a student today; she’s a big De Niro fan, and she absolutely loved it. She loathes Trump, and when she heard Trump’s pussy-grabbing comment, she told me she was so furious she couldn’t see straight. Hopping mad and she certainly wishes she could vote in the US election.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:22:30am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:23:08am

re: #463 sagehen

Are they somehow forgetting that what Bill Clinton did was the subject of all-day every-day cable news for months on end, front page every day for months on end, endless blog posts, tens of millions of dollars of special prosecutor investigation with subpoena power, hearings…. it wasn’t brushed off. Not by a long shot.

If Donald Trump gets a few weeks attention for this, don’t try to call it “unprecedented” or “uneven” or “biased” coverage.

No kidding.

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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:23:27am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:23:40am

re: #465 jaunte

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:24:06am

re: #454 MsJ

All I have to say is, Fire at will Mr DeNiro.

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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:27:25am

OMG!

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:30:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:32:53am

I just checked, this is legit. She even posted it to her own FB page.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:33:27am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:34:09am

re: #471 darthstar

So I see the new version of “hiding in the office and avoiding the press” — not having “a media availability.”

In the old days, they’d say “the congressman has no comment at this time,” or “the congressman will issue a written statement available shortly.”

Leadership, that’s what the GOP is all about!

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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:34:14am

Why I despise religion and supposed religious people (who talk the talk and nothing more).

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:34:37am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:35:05am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just checked, this is legit. She even posted it to her own FB page.

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Monica and Gennifer had consensual affairs with Bill Clinton. That’s totally different than Trump talking about trying to sleep with a married woman and “grab her by the pussy.” As for Hillary harassing them, uh I believe that Monica is in fact supporting Hillary’s run for President. The people who act like Hillary was awful for acting her husband’s mistresses are just so painfully stupid.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:35:21am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

She has drunk of the Kool-aid.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:35:36am

Y’all can use the “retweet pic” feature liberally with this one.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:36:17am

re: #475 MsJ

Why I despise religion and supposed religious people (who talk the talk and nothing more).

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They’re all about forgiveness when that person agrees with their worldview. If Bill Clinton had been a conservative Republican who hated gays and the right to choose, they’d be all over him defending him just as they have Newt Gingrich and the numerous other GOP hypocrites.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:37:02am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are a lot of claims about Hillary harassing the women Bill Clinton was involved with. Is there any evidence of that, other than her private venting to friends?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:37:27am

re: #481 jaunte

There are a lot of claims about Hillary harassing the women Bill Clinton was involved with. Is there any evidence of that, other than her private venting to friends?

None that I know of.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:38:31am

re: #481 jaunte

There are a lot of claims about Hillary harassing the women Bill Clinton was involved with. Is there any evidence of that, other than her private venting to friends?

No idea.
Wasn’t any of my business back then, still isn’t any of my business now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:39:19am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

No idea.
Wasn’t any of my business back then, still isn’t any of my business now.

Yep, Hillary’s responses to her HUSBAND’s affairs isn’t our business. Trump talking about going after women sexually however.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:39:23am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

It’s the key defense line for Trump fans now. “Hillary did something bad to those other women.”

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Jayleia  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:39:53am

re: #481 jaunte

There are a lot of claims about Hillary harassing the women Bill Clinton was involved with. Is there any evidence of that, other than her private venting to friends?

The same evidence they always have…

SQUIRREL!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:40:01am

re: #485 jaunte

It’s the key defense line for Trump fans now. “Hillary did something bad to those other women.”

Which shows you that all their talk about personal responsibility is bullshit. All they can do is deflect.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:40:30am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Harassing” implies she’s calling them up etc., and I don’t believe that happened. But the NYTimes had an article a few days ago about her being on board with attempts to discredit Bill’s accusers.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:41:15am

re: #485 jaunte

Well, our old friend Wikipedia has this:

Three weeks after the alleged assault, Broaddrick participated in a small Clinton fundraiser at the home of a local dentist.[3] Broaddrick said she was “in denial,” and felt guilty, thinking that she had given Clinton the wrong idea by letting him into her room.[3] When she arrived at the event, she says, her friend who had picked the Clintons up from the airport told her that Hillary Clinton had asked if she would be at the event.[7] Broaddrick says Clinton did not speak to her at the event, but his wife Hillary approached her, took her hand, and said ‘I just want you to know how much Bill and I appreciate what you do for him.”[7] When Broaddrick moved her hand away, she says, Mrs. Clinton held on to her and said, “Do you understand? Everything that you do.”[7] Broaddrick says she felt nauseated and left the gathering. Broaddrick says she interpreted the incident as Mrs. Clinton thanking her for keeping quiet.[7]

And that eventually, through wingnut minds, ends up with Hillary killing former women of Bill’s.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:42:12am

Joy Reid is roasting a Trump supporter over an open flame. It smells delicious!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:44:07am
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:44:21am

re: #489 freetoken

Yeah, that’s pretty definitive vagueness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:44:57am
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philosophus invidius  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:46:04am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:46:38am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Basically she thought he was okay until he became too much of a disgrace to deny. The GOP owns Trump. They nominated him. They’ve promoted him as being better than Hillary. They ignored him and his past. And they should have to be known as the Party of Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:46:46am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think Rep. Roby doesn’t seem to understand that it’s far, far too late now.

And she’s right - Trump will basically end up handing Hillary Clinton the White House. And the GOP has no one - absolutely no one - to blame but themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:47:46am

re: #496 Dr Lizardo

I think Rep. Roby doesn’t seem to understand that it’s far, far too late now.

And she’s right - Trump will basically end up handing Hillary Clinton the White House. And the GOP has no one - absolutely no one - to blame but themselves.

Which they won’t do because the GOP is as good at soul searching and introspection as Trump himself is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:48:02am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:49:08am

Washington state GOP chair Susan Hutchison blames Bill Clinton for Trump’s behavior: Trump was a democrat then.

komonews.com

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:49:48am

re: #492 jaunte

Yup.

I have never seen anything to prove, or even really suggest, that Hillary did anything other but what many wives with wandering husbands do - try to keep the whole thing quiet so as to not embarrass the family.

This rather common stance of Hillary’s - which is repeated probably 10,000 times per day across this country of failed marriages - is then morphed into Hillary having people killed.

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Alyosha  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:50:42am

Before I depart for the night:

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Sionainn  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:50:46am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Penn State?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:51:54am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:51:55am

re: #499 Barefoot Grin

Washington state GOP chair Susan Hutchison blames Bill Clinton for Trump’s behavior: Trump was a democrat then.

komonews.com

OFFS. He’s your party’s fucking nominee and he’s talked about women since he’s been your party’s nominee. Stop blaming Democrats and actually own up for once you pathetic right wing hacks.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:52:43am

I know we’re still a couple of days away, but I don’t think I’ve ever been so excited to see Nate Silver update the 538 poll numbers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:52:56am

re: #503 goddamnedfrank

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:52:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:53:04am

this is donald tweeting right now:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:56:03am

re: #508 Backwoods_Sleuth

Beat you by 5 seconds!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:57:11am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:57:49am

What we have is a party in denial. Trump isn’t new to the GOP and how they view and treat women. We’re talking about a party who for years has had Rush Limbaugh as a key spokesman for its ideology and for years has considered that sexist and numerous others like him to be key proponents of their party and ideology. Here’s the thing GOP. You are Trump and Trump is you. You deserve each other and you deserve to be linked with each other for the foreseeable future.

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Alyosha  Oct 8, 2016 • 7:57:56am

One more.

Nighterz.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:00:06am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Left has pushed sex liberation & filthy Hollywood culture for decades. Now complaining about the language is causes

Yes, they have always been the champions of sexual harassment and rape.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:00:13am

re: #512 Alyosha

One more.

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Nighterz.

Agreed.

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JDRhoades  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:01:06am

re: #79 Anymouse

Thing is, anyone arrogant enough to run for President thinks they’ll never be caught.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:02:29am

I have three words for that Trump person. Male Chauvinist Pig.

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Sionainn  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:04:11am

re: #507 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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Unrepentant pig.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:05:09am

Repignant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:05:47am

film director and Katie Aselton’s husband.
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:05:50am

re: #516 PhillyPretzel

I have three words for that Trump person. Male Chauvinist Pig.

I remember a co-worker of mine once comparing Trump to Archie Bunker. She was mistaken; Archie Bunker, for all his bigotry, was capable of growth and understanding. His bigotry stemmed not from malice, but from ignorance.

Trump is nothing like that. Not in the slightest.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:06:10am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump’s behavior makes him unacceptable as a candidate for president, and I won’t vote for him.

Funny as hell. Mah esteemed GOPbot probably wants Senator Jefferson Beaugregard Sessions The Third to step in as candidate-designate.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:06:17am

When Trump has sex does he have to have someone cut him out of his suit so that he doesn’t muss his hair?

Brought to you by Unwelcome Thoughts!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:07:23am

re: #517 Sionainn

Unrepentant pig.

Yeah, he’s being pretty flip about the whole thing. It’s like he has no idea how much of a mess his campaign is in now. As someone memorably tweeted after the Machado incident, it’s like Trump rammed the Titanic into an iceberg deliberately, then backed up and did it again.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:08:05am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:08:54am

re: #521 Decatur Deb

Funny as hell. Mah esteemed GOPbot probably wants Senator Jefferson Beaugregard Sessions The Third to step in as candidate-designate.

Makes me wish Mel Blanc was still with us……that name needs the Foghorn Leghorn treatment.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:09:36am

re: #522 Barefoot Grin

When Trump has sex does he have to have someone cut him out of his suit so that he doesn’t muss his hair?

Brought to you by Unwelcome Thoughts!

Facts not in evidence, at least since little Barron was born.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:10:18am

re: #525 Dr Lizardo

Makes me wish Mel Blanc was still with us……that name needs the Foghorn Leghorn treatment.

That’s how I always say it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:10:45am

re: #525 Dr Lizardo

Makes me wish Mel Blanc was still with us……that name needs the Foghorn Leghorn treatment.

I’ve been saying it but Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third just sounds like an antebellum Senator. It puts John Caldwell Calhoun to shame.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:11:26am

re: #527 Decatur Deb

That’s how I always say it.

That’s how I always hear it. Man Blanc was a great voice actor. Caught an old interview of him talking to Dave Letterman. Cool stuff.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:11:35am

Checking in from the beach—nothing much where I am thus far—some rain—right now just drizzling and no wind. There is some heavy rain and flooding around the state (from watching the local news stations, worse inland). Supposed to be windier and rainier this afternoon, but so far, my location has dodged anything bad.

So—how many times have the “news” networks re-run Trump’s infomercial this morning? I’m still steaming that they let him get away with a pre-recorded bullshit statement—I’m surprised he didn’t give it while walking through his DC hotel, to get maximum bang for his (non) bucks.

Ugh—went to bed pissed off and I’m still pissed this morning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:11:46am

re: #522 Barefoot Grin

When Trump has sex does he have to have someone cut him out of his suit so that he doesn’t muss his hair?

Brought to you by Unwelcome Thoughts!

Does he have a pubic combover?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:13:32am

re: #528 HappyWarrior

I’ve been saying it but Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third just sounds like an antebellum Senator. It puts John Caldwell Calhoun to shame.

Oh definitely. Very mid-19th Century sounding name. I imagine it probably works quite well when spoken in a Southern accent, especially his middle name, Beauregard - a classic Southern name if there ever was one.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:13:59am

— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) October 6, 2016

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:14:11am

re: #529 HappyWarrior

That’s how I always hear it. Man Blanc was a great voice actor. Caught an old interview of him talking to Dave Letterman. Cool stuff.

Saw this among a bunch of epitaphs, perhaps here:

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Great White Snark  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:14:14am
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:15:09am

re: #531 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does he have a pubic combover?

Needs insecticide. wt;DC!
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:15:19am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:15:35am

re: #532 Dr Lizardo

Oh definitely. Very mid-19th Century sounding name. I imagine it probably works quite well when spoken in a Southern accent, especially his middle name, Beauregard - a classic Southern name is there ever was one.

And his surname Sessions sounds like secession. I think what makes it work so well is that his first name is Jefferson like Jefferson Davis, Beauregard like General PGT Beauregard, Sessions for the reason I already said, and the III just adds a certain aristocratic element to it. The interesting thing though is I believe Sessions has a modest background. But yeah it’s best said with a Southern accent. Wouldn’t work in a New York, Boston, or Philly accent.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:15:54am

re: #531 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does he have a pubic combover?

Hahahahahaha. Oh, god.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:16:03am

re: #534 Decatur Deb

Saw this among a bunch of epitaphs, perhaps here:

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Yeah I’ve heard about that epitaph. It’s a good one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:17:27am
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Great White Snark  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:18:00am
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:18:06am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:18:21am

Speaking of Sessions, I just think about the end of The Shining where we see Jack Torrence in the 1920’s but with Sessions I think of a mid 1800’s photograph of the U.S Congress and him still being there. His views would fit right in. Charles Sumner and Thaddeus Stevens would easily be Sessions left.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:18:52am

re: #542 Great White Snark

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Yeah he still insists they’re guilty and doesn’t apologize for what he said there.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:19:42am

re: #541 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am glad to hear Matthew is a Cat 1 hurricane but it is still very dangerous.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:19:59am

re: #545 HappyWarrior

Yeah he still insists they’re guilty and doesn’t apologize for what he said there.

Trump’s one of those types that sees admitting to being wrong as a sign of weakness.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:21:25am

re: #547 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s one of those types that sees admitting to being wrong as a sign of weakness.

Very common in his party.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:22:51am

re: #546 PhillyPretzel

Rainfall is still coming down at a couple of inches an hour in parts of the Carolinas.

The big question tomorrow is whether Matthew survives recurving to the south. It’s possible that he could hit Florida again in a few days as a tropical storm.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:23:19am

re: #548 HappyWarrior

Very common in his party.

I personally cannot fathom that kind of thinking. It makes no sense whatsoever.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:24:19am

re: #550 Dr Lizardo

I personally cannot fathom that kind of thinking. It makes no sense whatsoever.

I know. I can understand not liking when you’re wrong but I always try to understand my mistakes. When I’ve been corrected here and elsewhere, I always tell the person that I appreciate the correction rather than double down as Trump has in this case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:25:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:26:50am
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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:28:27am

Latest from Chemnitz, which would probably have been exploited by Drumpfskind if his campaign wasn’t falling apart:

German police detain two in Chemnitz manhunt, find explosives

German police said they detained two people on Saturday in connection with a hunt for a Syrian-born man suspected of planning a bomb attack, adding that they had found explosives in an apartment they raided earlier.

[…]

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:28:39am

re: #553 Backwoods_Sleuth

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:29:23am

re: #553 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #555 Dr Lizardo

Renice will want the GOP to stay the course.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:29:27am

SEE??!!??? HITLERY SAID PUSSY TOO!!!111!!

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Jayleia  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:30:45am

re: #555 Dr Lizardo

It begins.

KOSH - And So It Begins…

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:31:02am

re: #553 Backwoods_Sleuth

Senator Mike Crapo Verified account
@MikeCrapo

I can no longer endorse Donald Trump.

Bullshit. He is your party’s best and brightest. Your gruelling primary process showed that he is the mind most representative of the GOP.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:31:02am

re: #553 Backwoods_Sleuth

This sort of maneuver is so empty. Not only is there a likely unrecoverable mess if Drumpfskind says he’s quitting now, but since the nature of Drumpfskind has been known for quite some time, why is it now that Republicans like Crapo are making comments.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:31:08am

I just don’t see how they get out of this. People are already voting.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:31:20am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:31:40am

re: #559 Decatur Deb

Bullshit. He is your party’s best and brightest. Your gruelling primary process showed that he is the mind most representative of the GOP.

They had a great bench too. or so they told us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:31:59am

uh…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:32:51am

re: #560 freetoken

This sort of maneuver is so empty. Not only is there a likely unrecoverable mess if Drumpfskind says he’s quitting now, but since the nature of Drumpfskind has been known for quite some time, why is it now that Republicans like Crapo are making comments.

Indeed. It’s not like this is new. We know that Trump treats and views women like shit. This is just a party a month away from the election that is scared shitless.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:33:02am

re: #561 HappyWarrior

I just don’t see how they get out of this. People are already voting.

It’s CYA (cover your ass) time in the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:33:37am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:34:09am

re: #564 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh…

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James is just mad because no self respecting woman would ever want anything to with his pathetic ass.

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austin_blue  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:34:40am

re: #507 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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Good morning!

Anything happen yesterday?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:34:43am

re: #567 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. They nominated him and they should keep him.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:34:46am

re: #503 goddamnedfrank

“Who is this male we totally see for the first time?”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:37:20am

re: #564 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh…

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Yeah, I don’t quite get this. Is the deviant saying that he’ll turn his camera on republican hypocrites?

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:38:54am

re: #572 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I don’t quite get this. Is the deviant saying that he’ll turn his camera on republican hypocrites?

He’ll invite them to his boat filled with sex toys.
bigthink.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:39:11am

re: #351 goddamnedfrank

It always comes down to that, and the fact that whatever Trump tries to say about Bill at best just comes off now as a pathetic deflection. Hillary on the other hand can easily say that, then extend the discussion down a myriad of legitimate policy / platform detours having to do with reproductive freedom, equal pay and maternity / parental leave. All of which offer her a chance to present stark differences and occupy the moral high ground while not having it come off as a flagrant dodge. Also, whenever she wants it there’s the omnipresent issue of temperament, which has repeatedly proven to get under Donald’s skin.

She can also use yesterday’s “apology” as a pivot to question him about when he changed his mind about Obama’s legitimacy, what actually made him change his mind and doesn’t he owe Obama an apology too. She can pivot to the Central Park 5, how they were totally exonerated by DNA evidence and how this very week Trump refused to admit he was wrong about them.

Assuming he even shows up she’s going to lure him into the minefield, watch him blow himself up, and then spend the rest of her time circling while clinically describing his wounds to the audience.

Hillary has Trump checkmated, but he’s too stupid to know it. Only question now is how many Republican office holders he takes down with him.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:39:27am

re: #564 Backwoods_Sleuth

Whoever among the Rs is guiltless throw the first stone. Watched Porn? Said sexual deviant things in private? If yes, they should be filmed.

O’Keefe: “Everyone is just as bad as Trump, therefore, he should be elected president.”

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:39:57am

Notice the same reference to Tic Tacs. This man is a sexual predator.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:40:03am

Der Freeperfuhrer sends the troops back to the fray:

“For all of you who are leaving…
Posted on 10/8/2016, 10:02:11 AM by Jim Robinson
If you’re going to throw in the towel for some stupid remarks that Trump made in the past and let the thoroughly corrupt, God-hating, America-hating, Marxist/fascist totalitarian Hillary Clinton destroy our nation, then goodbye. Logoff, delete your cookies, post elsewhere.
Quit on America? Like hell!! We the unredeemable, despicable deplorables will fight on without you.
By the way, FU turncoat FOX News and all bedwetting GOPe NeverTrump RINOs.

That is all.”

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:40:47am
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:41:00am

So much for role model.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:41:03am

re: #538 HappyWarrior

Yeah, “da toid’ doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:41:55am

re: #577 Decatur Deb

Der Freeperfuhrer sends the troops back to the fray:

“For all of you who are leaving…
Posted on 10/8/2016, 10:02:11 AM by Jim Robinson
If you’re going to throw in the towel for some stupid remarks that Trump made in the past and let the thoroughly corrupt, God-hating, America-hating, Marxist/fascist totalitarian Hillary Clinton destroy our nation, then goodbye. Logoff, delete your cookies, post elsewhere.
Quit on America? Like hell!! We the unredeemable, despicable deplorables will fight on without you.
By the way, FU turncoat FOX News and all bedwetting GOPe NeverTrump RINOs.

That is all.”

See, that’s why I don’t think they’d be able to replace him. Their party’s rank and file already detest them. If they replaced Trump. It would ruin them. At this point, they’re just stuck with him. And hell some of the state chairs and Trump campaign chairs in the states have even defended him.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:42:00am

re: #573 Ace-o-aces

He’ll invite them to his boat filled with sex toys.
bigthink.com

“It’s hard out here for a pimp.”

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BigPapa  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:42:23am

re: #579 darthstar

‘I won’t vote for the raging misogynist but will vote for the guy who supports funerals for aborted fetuses.’

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:42:26am

re: #576 Jenner7

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Notice the same reference to Tic Tacs. This man is a sexual predator.

He just likes to

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austin_blue  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:42:28am

re: #577 Decatur Deb

Der Freeperfuhrer sends the troops back to the fray:

“For all of you who are leaving…
Posted on 10/8/2016, 10:02:11 AM by Jim Robinson
If you’re going to throw in the towel for some stupid remarks that Trump made in the past and let the thoroughly corrupt, God-hating, America-hating, Marxist/fascist totalitarian Hillary Clinton destroy our nation, then goodbye. Logoff, delete your cookies, post elsewhere.
Quit on America? Like hell!! We the unredeemable, despicable deplorables will fight on without you.
By the way, FU turncoat FOX News and all bedwetting GOPe NeverTrump RINOs.

That is all.”

I think we have found the very definition of Butthurt in one simple post.

Well done, Jim! Bravo!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:42:33am

re: #578 Jenner7

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But you said he was a great role model, Kelly. And Governor Pence is no prize either.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:42:55am

re: #578 Jenner7

13 seconds.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:42:57am

Trump promoter Hugh Hewitt is now trying to get loose.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:43:06am

re: #583 BigPapa

‘I won’t vote for the raging misogynist but will vote for the guy who supports funerals for aborted fetuses.’

And thinks Mulan was liberal propaganda for showing women serving bravely in the military.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:43:43am

re: #579 darthstar

So much for role model.

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Hopefully all those hundreds and hundreds of folks I see with Trump signs in their yards in southern New Hampshire will refuse to vote for Ayotte, thus handing victory to Hassan.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:43:58am

re: #588 jaunte

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Trump promoter Hugh Hewitt is now trying to get loose.

Sorry Hugh but your party nominated this guy. You don’t get to back out a month before the election because you suddenly discover that your candidate is a sexist asshole.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:44:42am

Funny that they still describe people discovering who Trump really is as “oppo.”

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:44:50am

re: #558 Jayleia

In Fire

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:45:41am
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:45:51am

re: #591 HappyWarrior

Hugh was fine with the racism, bigotry, xenophobia, and erratic behavior before.

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bratwurst  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:45:58am

Of course, he DID withdraw from Atlantic City…and two marriages.

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Jay C  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:46:34am

re: #585 austin_blue

I think we have found the very definition of Butthurt in one simple post.

Well done, Jim! Bravo!

If this sounds bad, I can’t wait* to see what he’s going to post on Nov. 9: few things set off wingnuts more than overwhelming public rejection of their extremist BS.

* actually, I can. Forever, if need be.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:46:40am

re: #595 jaunte

Hugh was fine with the racism, bigotry, xenophobia, and erratic behavior before.

As were the others.

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Donkey With No Name  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:47:14am

re: #576 Jenner7

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Notice the same reference to Tic Tacs. This man is a sexual predator.

This is like American Psycho with “do you like Huey Lewis and the News” replaced by “you should have a Tic Tac”.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:48:08am

Someday, when someone writes the book on how a major American political party made every wrong turn imaginable in the course of destroying itself, this is the campaign they will reference.

In 63 years on this planet and 50 years voting in presidentials, I’ve never seen amateurism like this. The 2016 GOP makes the Dukakis and Mondale campaigns look like the picture of efficient, organized campaigns.

And I’ve got a feeling that between now and Election Day, something even more insane than what came out yesterday is gonna fall on Prince Tiny Hands. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Clinton campaign has at least one of these revelations a week until then.

Like I said back during the conventions, Trump has no idea who he is up against, and exactly how far over his ugly head he is. He’s in the process of learning this.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:48:15am
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:48:28am

“…With this legislation, which was introduced last week by Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), Republicans propose that the rape exemption be limited to “forcible rape.” This would rule out federal assistance for abortions in many rape cases, including instances of statutory rape, many of which are non-forcible. For example: If a 13-year-old girl is impregnated by a 24-year-old adult, she would no longer qualify to have Medicaid pay for an abortion.”

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:48:29am

re: #588 jaunte

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Trump promoter Hugh Hewitt is now trying to get loose.

This race has been a farce from the start. If the Republicans didn’t want to punt this year they would have contested the convention, enjoyed three days of drama, and nominated someone like Romney or Jeb. At that point it would have been a battle of donors.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:49:14am

re: #601 Ace-o-aces

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As I said last night, Tony and Donald have a common friend named Dave who hates black people and Jews.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:49:57am

re: #602 jaunte

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Yep and this was before Trump was their nominee so GOP spare me the fake outrage.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:50:02am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:50:15am

re: #418 Dr. Matt

He’s one of the most flawed conservative talking heads and yet Lumpy goes to him for opinion.

Might have been the only one he could find to defend Trump right now.

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bratwurst  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:50:20am

BREAKING: TRUMP IS LOSING HIS CRAPO!

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:50:58am

Joy Reid reporting Trump might do a speech tonight in New York.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:51:53am

re: #606 darthstar

Exactly right. Everything we’re seeing now is post-election posturing.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:51:55am

re: #603 darthstar

This race has been a farce from the start. If the Republicans didn’t want to punt this year they would have contested the convention, enjoyed three days of drama, and nominated someone like Romney or Jeb. At that point it would have been a battle of donors.

Nah, neither could’ve possibly won without Trump’s base, and even if the base didn’t already hate them with a passion contesting the convention would’ve sealed that deal.

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:52:03am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:52:58am

re: #612 Lidane

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Exactly. It’s not a coincidence that Trump’s comments were about a big demographic that the GOP needs to win the election and they need to their elections.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:53:46am

re: #612 Lidane

GOP was silent while Trump made racist comments about blacks, Muslims, Mexicans. White women vote is threatened so they feign outrage.

They had already written off those other groups.

Just like the armed forces ignored or covered up rampant sexual assault in the military until it started affecting women’s recruitment numbers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:53:51am

“I’d never withdraw. I’ve never withdrawn in my life,” Trump told the Washington Post in a phone call from his home in Trump Tower in New York. “No, I’m not quitting this race. I have tremendous support.”

“People are calling and saying, ‘Don’t even think about doing anything else but running,” Trump said when asked about GOP defections. “You have to see what’s going on. The real story is that people have no idea the support. I don’t know how that’s going to boil down but people have no idea the support.

“Running against her,” Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, makes keeping the party behind him easier, Trump added.

“It’s because she’s so bad. She’s so flawed as a candidate. Running against her, I can’t say it’d be the same if I ran against someone else, but running against her makes it a lot easier, that’s for sure.”

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:54:00am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:54:04am

re: #601 Ace-o-aces

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Oh, damn. That got a big and bitter laugh from me.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:54:49am

re: #588 jaunte

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Trump promoter Hugh Hewitt is now trying to get loose.

That last sentence in his Tweet, “More and worse oppo is coming”. Very telling. Hewitt seems to realize that the shit’s really about to hit the fan.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:54:50am

re: #425 Dr Lizardo

I can’t help but wonder what the next shoe to drop is going to be? Trump is nothing less than Montezuma’s Treasure for opposition researchers - an unending, bottomless trove of fatuous and repellent statements and the facts of his shady business practices to use against him.

If they don’t drop another one today, I guarantee you Hillary will drop something during the debate. When I was getting worried a couple of weeks ago, I’m sure the Clinton’s inner circle was serene, because they know exactly what they are going to unleash on Trump.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:55:10am

re: #553 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wah. We want a do-over. We didn’t really mean it. The sun got in our eyes. Somebody made a face at me and distracted me. The dog ate my homework.

Shut the fuck up and OWN IT, Republicans. He is YOURS. He is YOU.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:55:12am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:56:21am

re: #615 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. And honestly he’s sort of right, he does have a strong following but fortunately for the world, it won’t be enough to propel him to victory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:57:06am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:57:24am

re: #554 freetoken

For those that wondered why Merkel’s party was doing so bad lately.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:58:04am

re: #624 Nyet

For those that wondered why Merkel’s party was doing so bad lately.

I’m going to be in Germany next year. Should be uh interesting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:58:32am

foot stamping time…

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:59:05am

Sportsball humor:

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:59:40am

re: #578 Jenner7
Go

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Fuck off, Kelly. You’re as full of shit as the rest of them.

(My lights are flickering, and I’m in no mood for “Where’s the Girl” Ayotte’s bullshit.)

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Great White Snark  Oct 8, 2016 • 8:59:51am
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:00:14am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:00:37am

re: #628 BeachDem

Go

Fuck off, Kelly. You’re as full of shit as the rest of them.

(My lights are flickering, and I’m in no mood for “Where’s the Girl” Ayotte’s bullshit.)

I hope Hassan pounces on her with her quip of calling Trump a great role model.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:00:38am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:00:42am

re: #626 Backwoods_Sleuth

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foot stamping time…

It’s entirely possible that Trump is delusional enough to think he’s still going to win. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. He probably looks at sites like Free Republic and thinks it’s representative of American public opinion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:01:40am

re: #625 HappyWarrior

I’m going to be in Germany next year. Should be uh interesting.

I have been here since reunification, and the former East Germans did not have any sort of immigration like the West experienced until after 1989, whereas the West have had Italian,Turkish, Yugoslavian and other European/African immigrants for decades and although relations are sometimes far from ideal, the people in the West are still generally civil and tolerant about it all.

And I am still astounded that they have taken on over a million refugees over the past year and a half without major social conflicts.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:02:03am

re: #633 Dr Lizardo

It’s entirely possible that Trump is delusional enough to think he’s still going to win. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. He probably looks at sites like Free Republic and thinks it’s representative of American public opinion.

Free Republic, Breitbart, etc.

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scottslemmons  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:02:13am
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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:02:20am

Morning Lizardim from the beautiful, cool wild north country. Fall is definitely in full swing here now, and it is glorious - just like waking up this morning, eager to find out the news about how badly Drumpf is imploding. It is such a wonderful feeling. How go things among the lizardfolk on this amazing fall day?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:02:39am

re: #633 Dr Lizardo

It’s entirely possible that Trump is delusional enough to think he’s still going to win. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. He probably looks at sites like Free Republic and thinks it’s representative of American public opinion.

He is realistic enough to know that he cannot back down now, regardless of his diminishing chances. And when he loses, he will blame it on media favoritism, voter fraud and manipulation.

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A wild (((wolfy))) has appeared  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:02:49am

re: #619 Big Beautiful Door

If they don’t drop another one today, I guarantee you Hillary will drop something during the debate. When I was getting worried a couple of weeks ago, I’m sure the Clinton’s inner circle was serene, because they know exactly what they are going to unleash on Trump.

He’s kinda like a building here that asbestos. The original timeframe was for about 6 months. The whole process took almost 3 years, because, every time they were finishing, someone hit another wall and found more asbestos.

I feel sorry for those doing oppo research on Trump. Just when they think they are finished for the day, something else creeps up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:03:01am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:03:23am

re: #635 HappyWarrior

Free Republic, Breitbart, etc.

Exactly. He basking in the glow of their adulation, but not realizing that those sites readership is a minority of the public, the extremist fringe.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:03:31am

re: #634 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have been here since reunification, and the former East Germans did not have any sort of immigration like the West experienced until after 1989, whereas the West have had Italian,Turkish, Yugoslavian and other European/African immigrants for decades and although relations are sometimes far from ideal, the people in the West are still generally civil and tolerant about it all.

And I am still astounded that they have taken on over a million refugees over the past year and a half without major social conflicts.

Yeah it’s going to be my second time. Nearly all my time was in the former West outside a side trip to Dresden. Should be very interesting since I’m going with my brother who speaks the language quite well.

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Great White Snark  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:03:32am

re: #633 Dr Lizardo

Hey he can’t bitch about a rigged deal unless he loses right?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:03:47am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:04:24am

re: #638 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is realistic enough to know that he cannot back down now, regardless of his diminishing chances. And when he loses, he will blame it on media favoritism, voter fraud and manipulation.

He’s been doing that for awhile. “The elections are rigged, the election will be stolen”, etc., etc.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:04:38am

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:05:25am

re: #559 Decatur Deb

All Republicans can, with tiny number if exceptions, burn in hell.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:05:46am

re: #634 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

AfD keeps getting stronger though.
It’s one thing when you help people in need, while carefully screening them. It’s another thing to do what Merkel did, basically inviting anyone (“Das Grundrecht auf Asyl gilt uneingeschränkt”) with little to no control.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:05:50am

I love how they think they can just replace Trump with Pence and all will be fine. There’s a lot out there on Pence too that the Clinton campaign would be happy to share with the world.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:05:58am

The gang is trying to play the Pence card today… but that is so blow-up-in-your-face stupid that I find it simultaneously hilarious and sad.

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BigPapa  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:06:21am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:06:45am

re: #650 freetoken

The gang is trying to play the Pence card today… but that is so blow-up-in-your-face stupid that I find it simultaneously hilarious and sad.

Save us from our sexist nominee guy who thought Mulan was liberal propaganda while the rest of us enjoyed the movie.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:06:47am

re: #649 HappyWarrior

I love how they think they can just replace Trump with Pence and all will be fine. There’s a lot out there on Pence too that the Clinton campaign would be happy to share with the world.

Let’s just start with the fact that his own home state was going to vote in a replacement in November if he hadn’t withdrawn to run with Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:06:47am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:07:34am

re: #653 thedopefishlives

Let’s just start with the fact that his own home state was going to vote in a replacement in November if he hadn’t withdrawn to run with Trump.

Yep.

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BigPapa  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:07:41am

Can’t wait for more oppo.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:07:54am
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Lidane  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:07:57am

This is brutal:

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:08:46am

re: #655 HappyWarrior

Yep.

It’s like watching a train wreck, but knowing there’s no people on the train. You don’t have to feel guilty about enjoying the utter destruction and carnage that ensues.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:09:05am

re: #648 Nyet

AfD keeps getting stronger though.
It’s one thing when you help people in need, while carefully screening them. It’s another thing to do what Merkel did, basically inviting anyone (“Das Grundrecht auf Asyl gilt uneingeschränkt”) with little to no control.

Merkel’s government bit of more than they could chew. I think they made a mistake in not putting an upper limit on refugees, especially in terms of an upper percentage share of refugees that the EU took in. Other countries just laughed and let Germany take the bulk of the burden, and their government’s good deeds are now being punished.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:09:49am

re: #659 thedopefishlives

It’s like watching a train wreck, but knowing there’s no people on the train. You don’t have to feel guilty about enjoying the utter destruction and carnage that ensues.

I don’t feel bad for the GOP at all. This all goes back to the Southern Strategy for me.

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Great White Snark  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:10:47am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:10:52am

re: #660 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exactly. Plus not enough of sorting out of purely economic refugees.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:11:42am

re: #646 darthstar

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You can fuck off too, Carly. Your “thoughts” are about as important as your pitiful career—both in the private sector and the public arena.

Go hunt some demon sheep, you repulsive person.

If they all love Pence so much, why the fuck didn’t they nominate him in the first place.

I hope (and anticipate) that Hillary’s team has done their research on the extremism of Pence—and that ads about his ugly views will be forthcoming.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:11:47am
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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:11:59am

Do you hear that sound Mr. Trump.
That is the sound of inevitability.
That is the sound of your doom.

Goodbye Mr. Trump.

Alternatively, that’s your career and fortune light flashing in the red.

Trump’s toast, and he’s the last to realize it. Some in the GOP know it, but they’re all tied to him. They enabled him. They peddled his worldview, just in a slightly more subtle manner. They didn’t bail over his racism.

They didn’t bail on the xenophobia.
They didn’t bail on the anti Semitism.

Those all affect only a small portion of the electorate.

Trump’s comments about sexually assaulting women? That hits 50% of the electorate.

That’s why they’re all in damage control mode. The rest of it was small potatoes. This threatens every last down ticket race.

As it should of course, but the entirety of Trump’s statements and utterances hang on the entire GOP. Anyone, from Pence to Cruz to Rubio, deserve to go down for this. Rudy, Newt, and all the other righteous extremists who claim GOP is the party of family values (yeah, Tony Perkins, you too) deserve this.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:13:38am

Please proceed, sexual predator.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:13:58am

re: #654 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:14:08am

re: #667 Jenner7

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Please proceed, sexual predator.

I think that means he likely will be at the debate tomorrow.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:14:38am

re: #455 freetoken

Just can’t imagine Drumpfskind stepping down.

His only plan right now has to be to become as famous as possible, by whatever means. The more impact he has, even negative, the more lucrative his post-election career.

If its possible to OD on schadenfreude, I should be in the ER by now. I once again have hope that Trump can wreck so much destruction on the GOP that the Democrats actually regain control of Congress, and actually get something accomplished for a change.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:15:35am

I’ve been saying this for weeks…now it’s a meme.

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BigPapa  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:16:00am
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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:16:15am

re: #661 HappyWarrior

I don’t feel bad for the GOP at all. This all goes back to the Southern Strategy for me.

No, that’s my point. There’s no reason to feel bad. None at all. We are completely free to indulge in all the schadenfreude in the world. Fuck these people and the horses they rode in on.

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A wild (((wolfy))) has appeared  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:16:15am

re: #664 BeachDem

You can fuck off too, Carly. Your “thoughts” are about as important as your pitiful career—both in the private sector and the public arena.

Go hunt some demon sheep, you repulsive person.

If they all love Pence so much, why the fuck didn’t they nominate him in the first place.

I hope (and anticipate) that Hillary’s team has done their research on the extremism of Pence—and that ads about his ugly views will be forthcoming.

My guess is that the Clinton campaign has had several binders with all that research months ago.

The Machado trap must have been prepared months in anticipation.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:16:28am

re: #669 HappyWarrior

I thought he wouldn’t show up, but he’s going all in I guess. I will be really amazing to watch. I told my Mom to pop all of the popcorn.

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Great White Snark  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:16:42am

re: #659 thedopefishlives

It’s like watching a train wreck, but knowing there’s no people on the train. You don’t have to feel guilty about enjoying the utter destruction and carnage that ensues.

I kinda got away from that feeling. The train is not quite empty. Now by that I mean I see this debacle has diminished the process, many of those involved and in some ways the whole country. At first we could say fringe. Then fringe got in charge. Won the primary bigly. Fugly. And got worse from there.

Over on HRC’s side, she can’t shake Bill any more than Obama could shake birthers out of the media. In both cases burdened with undeserved weight. More examples could follow.

Donald Trump turned our process into a despicable, nay deplorable shambles. For personal gain too. He is no misguided patriot apart from unto himself.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:16:50am

re: #656 BigPapa

Can’t wait for more oppo.

It’s not oppo…it’s all on tape and readily available. It’s barely even a google search.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:17:08am

re: #670 Big Beautiful Door

If we regain control of Congress, you could also start congressional investigations into collusion between the Republicans and Russia, as well as major corruption in investigations.

You could throw hundreds, maybe more, of Republican Office-holders and party officials in prison.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:17:42am

re: #677 darthstar

It’s not oppo…it’s all on tape and readily available. It’s barely even a google search.

The only oppo consists of deciding when and where to release it.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:19:15am

re: #678 Ziggy_TARDIS

If we regain control of Congress, you could also start congressional investigations into collusion between the Republicans and Russia, as well as major corruption in investigations.

You could throw hundreds, maybe more, of Republican Office-holders and party officials in prison.

I don’t know if you could throw hundreds of GOP office-holders and party leaders in the pokey, but I certainly agree that if the Democrats can regain control of Congress, there definitely needs to be a comprehensive investigation into Russian attempts to influence this election and whether or not there was any GOP collusion in such efforts.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:19:32am

re: #670 Big Beautiful Door

If its possible to OD on schadenfreude, I should be in the ER by now. I once again have hope that Trump can wreck so much destruction on the GOP that the Democrats actually regain control of Congress, and actually get something accomplished for a change.

Schadenfreudgasm. And amazingly enough, that term was coined two weeks ago, when Trump was hate-tweeting in the middle of the night about Alicia Machado.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:19:37am

And of course—people are out driving around in flooded areas of SC to see what’s going on (news peeps calling it joyriding) and getting stuck in high water and calling for rescue.

They’re idiots, and they’re South Carolinians—but I repeat myself.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:20:14am

re: #673 thedopefishlives

No, that’s my point. There’s no reason to feel bad. None at all. We are completely free to indulge in all the schadenfreude in the world. Fuck these people and the horses they rode in on.

Yeah I know. Definitely.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:20:29am

re: #678 Ziggy_TARDIS

If we regain control of Congress, you could also start congressional investigations into collusion between the Republicans and Russia, as well as major corruption in investigations.

You could throw hundreds, maybe more, of Republican Office-holders and party officials in prison.

I don’t know about prison, but reverse HUAC might be fun.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:21:08am

Time for an oldie but a goodie:

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:21:13am

re: #679 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only oppo consists of deciding when and where to release it.

Under each pumpkin is another damning story about Trump. You just need to pick which one to focus on on any given day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:21:23am

re: #681 Blind Frog Belly White

Schadenfreudgasm. And amazingly enough, that term was coined two weeks ago, when Trump was hate-tweeting in the middle of the night about Alicia Machado.

I had seen it before then, but Trump has redefined it at a new level.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:21:30am

re: #681 Blind Frog Belly White

Schadenfreudgasm. And amazingly enough, that term was coined two weeks ago, when Trump was hate-tweeting in the middle of the night about Alicia Machado.

If your schadenfreude lasts longer than four hours, please see a doctor as soon as possible; you may be suffering from a condition known as schadenfreudepriapism, which requires medical attention.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:21:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:22:10am
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:22:24am

Looking forward to Schadenfest Sunday

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:22:28am

re: #680 Dr Lizardo

I want the Republican Party destroyed in such a way that it won’t come back.

Not just investigations on collusion with Russia, but also links to the Koch Brothers (see if we can’t imprison them and seize their assets as well), and other various forms of corruption.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:23:05am

re: #684 Nyet

That does sound fun.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:23:20am
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Tigger2  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:23:59am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:24:09am

re: #676 Great White Snark

I kinda got away from that feeling. The train is not quite empty. Now by that I mean I see this debacle has diminished the process, many of those involved and in some ways the whole country. At first we could say fringe. Then fringe got in charge. Won the primary bigly. Fugly. And got worse from there.

Over on HRC’s side, she can’t shake Bill any more than Obama could shake birthers out of the media. In both cases burdened with undeserved weight. More examples could follow.

Donald Trump turned our process into a despicable, nay deplorable shambles. For personal gain too. He is no misguided patriot apart from unto himself.

It’s worth noting that to a very great extent, the GOP hobbled its own chances to get rid of Trump, back in 2012. They thought the long primary season, with 10 different flavors of Not Romney was damaging, so they came up with a delegate allocation scheme which would favor a frontrunner, allowing him to build up an insurmountable lead in delegates early on.

As has been pointed out, the proportional allotment of delegates that the Dems use, plus superdelegates, would have allowed the GOP to stop Trump, if they’d wanted to.

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Skip Intro  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:24:55am

So while classy DT was talking about grabbing pussy, classy FLOTUS-in-waiting was doing this.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:26:37am

re: #558 Jayleia

Too late for the pebbles to vote.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:28:23am
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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:28:37am

Lights flickering even more—probably close to losing power.

Still not that windy or rainy where I am, but they’re saying 50 mph winds at the beach 1/2 a mile away.

And high tide is 1/2 an hour away.

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Robert O.  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:29:42am

I am still trying to digest how this will play out. Part of me thinks (and hopes) this was the ‘October Surprise’ that would deal the knockout blow to Trump’s campaign the same manner that the 47% video permanently knocked out Mitt Romney’s campaign in 2012. On the other hand, I must acknowledge this is a very unusual election. Those who are appalled by Trump’s comments were never voting for him anyway, while for those who are true Trump worshippers, there is nothing he can do that would make them vote for anyone else (Trump is probably correct that he could shoot someone in downtown Manhattan and he won’t lose too many votes).

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Stanley Sea  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:29:57am

re: #668 BeachDem

That’s Ed—the most reliable weather source in the Grand Strand.

Cool, opened up his feed. Thanks.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:30:05am

re: #678 Ziggy_TARDIS

If we regain control of Congress, you could also start congressional investigations into collusion between the Republicans and Russia, as well as major corruption in investigations.

You could throw hundreds, maybe more, of Republican Office-holders and party officials in prison.

I doubt that even a 2-house Dem majority would do this - it would smack too heavily of the HUAC. I’d rather see them focus their new majority on correcting fucked-up policy than exacting retribution.

That said - Trump’s connections to the Kremlin and Russian Mob are absolutely fair game.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:30:37am

re: #694 darthstar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:31:09am
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:31:20am

re: #703 makeitstop

Couldn’t you do both?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:32:38am

re: #700 BeachDem

Lights flickering even more—probably close to losing power.

Still not that windy or rainy where I am, but they’re saying 50 mph winds at the beach 1/2 a mile away.

And high tide is 1/2 an hour away.

You might want to consider unplugging your computers/electronics/appliances for now.
That power flickering can damage them.

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sagehen  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:32:39am

re: #692 Ziggy_TARDIS

I want the Republican Party destroyed in such a way that it won’t come back.

Not just investigations on collusion with Russia, but also links to the Koch Brothers (see if we can’t imprison them and seize their assets as well), and other various forms of corruption.

The Koch Brothers are the only top-ranked R’s coming out of this smelling good; they went on record more than six months ago that this nominee is unsupportable and they’d sit out this year.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:33:16am

re: #704 thedopefishlives

No. Just, no.

The GOP is getting desperate. See, the sewer line, which they always knew was sort of in shaky condition, has exploded sooner - and with greater force - than they’d anticipated and the smell of raw sewage is now spreading everywhere, and it’s so foul that it can’t be ignored any more.

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austin_blue  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:33:20am

re: #615 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is one self-deluded con man. Have mercy, he’s just bug-shit crazy.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:33:43am

re: #705 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll believe the Republican politicians are reformed when they speak to those tea partiers who are booing and inform them that they need reality counselling.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:33:54am

Rift.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:33:56am

re: #705 Backwoods_Sleuth

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As I suspected. The base still loves Trump and isn’t going to accept the GOP leadership’s cynical little game to run away from Trump.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:33:58am

re: #708 sagehen

They had to have made a misstep somewhere in trying to hijack the US that could be used to throw them in prison.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:34:21am

re: #705 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dear Republicans

You can’t call for a do-over a month before the election.

You bought his bullshit for the past year. No buyer’s remorse after the warranty has expired.

Suck it, you assholes. He is YOURS. He is YOU.

Absolutely no love-in fact, utter disdain,

Democrats

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:34:38am

re: #708 sagehen

The Koch Brothers are the only top-ranked R’s coming out of this smelling good; they went on record more than six months ago that this nominee is unsupportable and they’d sit out this year.

The Koch Brothers are financially backing Gary Johnson.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:35:36am

re: #713 HappyWarrior

As I suspected. The base still loves Trump and isn’t going to accept the GOP leadership’s cynical little game to run away from Trump.

True, for many supporting Trump’s not a problem that a few tic tacs can’t solve.

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sagehen  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:35:42am

re: #714 Ziggy_TARDIS

They had to have made a misstep somewhere in trying to hijack the US that could be used to throw them in prison.

Their lobbyists have ensured that whatever they wanted to do couldn’t possibly be illegal.

But if they by chance did do anything illegal… the evidence and witnesses will never be found.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:36:00am

re: #713 HappyWarrior

As I suspected. The base still loves Trump and isn’t going to accept the GOP leadership’s cynical little game to run away from Trump.

I don’t think they love Trump. I think they love the idea of a Republican in power, doesn’t matter who. They hate Hillary and Democrats so much that even Trump, as odious as he is, is obviously better.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:36:11am

re: #707 Backwoods_Sleuth

You might want to consider unplugging your computers/electronics/appliances for now.
That power flickering can damage them.

I keep going back and forth—want to keep everything as charged up as possible, and want to keep the tv on while I have it…decisions, decisions. (But thanks for the advice.)

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calochortus  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:36:12am

re: #701 Robert O.

I am still trying to digest how this will play out. Part of me thinks (and hopes) this was the ‘October Surprise’ that would deal the knockout blow to Trump’s campaign the same manner that the 47% video permanently knocked out Mitt Romney’s campaign in 2012. On the other hand, I must acknowledge this is a very unusual election. Those who are appalled by Trump’s comments were never voting for him anyway, while for those who are true Trump worshippers, there is nothing he can do that would make them vote for anyone else (Trump is probably correct that he could shoot someone in downtown Manhattan and he won’t lose too many votes).

Among Trump supporters, women who could pretend that Trump was unfairly being labeled as a misogynist can no longer keep up that pretense.
Undecideds may find this ugliness makes up their minds.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:37:35am
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Tigger2  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:37:39am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:37:51am

re: #719 thedopefishlives

I don’t think they love Trump. I think they love the idea of a Republican in power, doesn’t matter who. They hate Hillary and Democrats so much that even Trump, as odious as he is, is obviously better.

That’s a big part of it, I think. Hell, if you told a lot of GOP voters that eating a genuine, bona-fide shit sandwich would assure Hillary Clinton’s defeat, I’d wager they’d tuck right in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:38:11am

re: #720 BeachDem

I keep going back and forth—want to keep everything as charged up as possible, and want to keep the tv on while I have it…decisions, decisions. (But thanks for the advice.)

I know this first hand because those power fluctuations took out my refrigerator, freezer and computer during the ice storm a few years back.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:38:28am

re: #486 Jayleia

The same evidence they always have…

SQUIRREL!

James carville has made it clear that it was the campaign that responded to the “bimbo eruptions”, not Hillary.

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Jayleia  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:38:51am

re: #716 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Koch Brothers are financially backing Gary Johnson.

They basically just tossed their money into a fireplace. Which they can afford to do.

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BlackPearl  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:39:03am

re: #712 goddamnedfrank

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Rift.

Ok, *that* made me clap my hands in delight.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:40:02am

re: #719 thedopefishlives

I don’t think they love Trump. I think they love the idea of a Republican in power, doesn’t matter who. They hate Hillary and Democrats so much that even Trump, as odious as he is, is obviously better.

Yeah I think you’re right about that.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:40:30am

re: #727 Jayleia

I thought that the Koch’s threw money at Gary Johnson so that the fantasy that the “Libertarian” party really is a thing can continue.

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electrotek  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:41:14am

re: #162 Ziggy_TARDIS

It might not flip Utah now, but there are elements in Mormonism that could make trying to flip Mormons in the long term worth trying.

OT but ArmeniaFest is going on tomorrow in Carrollton as well if you’re down?

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:41:20am

re: #729 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think you’re right about that.

One of Mrs. Fish’s friends, who is a wingnut and a gun-fucker (although as a family who is heavily into hunting, at least he has a legit reason to use guns), is supporting Trump through all this bullshit. It literally comes down to guns and abortion for these people, and in their worldview, the Democrats are irredeemably tainted in those areas.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:42:23am

Most recent polls in Alaska show it with in 3 points.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:42:27am

re: #732 thedopefishlives

One of Mrs. Fish’s friends, who is a wingnut and a gun-fucker (although as a family who is heavily into hunting, at least he has a legit reason to use guns), is supporting Trump through all this bullshit. It literally comes down to guns and abortion for these people, and in their worldview, the Democrats are irredeemably tainted in those areas.

Yeah doesn’t surprise me.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:42:39am

re: #719 thedopefishlives

I don’t think they love Trump. I think they love the idea of a Republican in power, doesn’t matter who. They hate Hillary and Democrats so much that even Trump, as odious as he is, is obviously better.

And it’s totally irrational.
These 5 charts prove that the economy does better under Democratic presidents

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:42:53am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:43:24am

re: #736 Backwoods_Sleuth

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scottslemmons  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:44:04am

re: #732 thedopefishlives

One of Mrs. Fish’s friends, who is a wingnut and a gun-fucker (although as a family who is heavily into hunting, at least he has a legit reason to use guns), is supporting Trump through all this bullshit. It literally comes down to guns and abortion for these people, and in their worldview, the Democrats are irredeemably tainted in those areas.

I’m willing to bet that the next bombshell waiting to be released is a list of women who Trump has pressured into getting abortions.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:45:21am

re: #738 scottslemmons

I’m willing to bet that the next bombshell waiting to be released is a list of women who Trump has pressured into getting abortions.

Ooooh I hadn’t thought about that. Well he wouldn’t be the first Republican to have done that.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:45:58am

Waiting for Pence to unendorse Trump.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:46:02am

re: #735 jaunte

And it’s totally irrational.
These 5 charts prove that the economy does better under Democratic presidents

Of course it’s irrational. We all know it. These people are just so narrowly focused on their hot-button issues that they literally don’t care about anything else. Fuck America - as long as I get my guns and you get your abortions taken away, I’m happy. That’s their mindset.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:46:23am

re: #736 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wearing hoodie, Christie just entered Trump Tower and didn’t answer question

Carrying Skittles, was he?
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:46:35am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:46:43am

re: #741 thedopefishlives

Of course it’s irrational. We all know it. These people are just so narrowly focused on their hot-button issues that they literally don’t care about anything else. Fuck America - as long as I get my guns and you get your abortions taken away, I’m happy. That’s their mindset.

That and their obsession was not letting gays have the same right as them.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:47:23am

I just checked the Trump for President website and I noticed that Pence’s schedule seems to have been removed. It now says “Please check back later for an updated schedule” when you look under the ‘Governor Mike Pence Events’ heading.

That’s odd. Isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:47:45am

re: #743 jaunte

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:47:49am

re: #744 HappyWarrior

That and their obsession was not letting gays have the same right as them.

Right. Although that obsession is relatively new, springing out of the creation of the gay rights movement. Abortion and guns are the two oldest causes of the modern wingnut right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:47:56am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:48:52am

re: #748 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:49:18am

re: #738 scottslemmons

I’m willing to bet that the next bombshell waiting to be released is a list of women who Trump has pressured into getting abortions.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:49:33am

re: #524 Ace-o-aces

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Will she demonstrate some integrity and resign? If she keeps shilling for Trump whatever shreds of dignity she has left are gone. No decent human being could continue to be associated with this nuclear reactor meltdown (dumpster fire is no longer fitting).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:50:18am

re: #750 Dr Lizardo

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Speaking of Goodfellas, Bobby D’s takedown of Trump was awesome,

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:50:19am

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:50:44am

re: #753 darthstar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:51:06am
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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:51:13am

re: #740 philosophus invidius

Waiting for Pence to unendorse Trump.

You think he would? I’m thinking the same train of thought would apply to Pence if he’s seriously considering running next time - don’t want to piss off the Trumpanzees. He’ll need their votes.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:51:16am

Rudy, Newt, Beauregard—quite the brain trust.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:51:18am

re: #701 Robert O.

I am still trying to digest how this will play out. Part of me thinks (and hopes) this was the ‘October Surprise’ that would deal the knockout blow to Trump’s campaign the same manner that the 47% video permanently knocked out Mitt Romney’s campaign in 2012. On the other hand, I must acknowledge this is a very unusual election. Those who are appalled by Trump’s comments were never voting for him anyway, while for those who are true Trump worshippers, there is nothing he can do that would make them vote for anyone else (Trump is probably correct that he could shoot someone in downtown Manhattan and he won’t lose too many votes).

The thing is, as is being played out last night and today, the GOP is made up of 3 camps, WRT Trump.

First there are those of whom it is literally true that he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and not lose their support. They either hate Hillary SO MUCH, or love Trump’s message of white nationalism SO MUCH that they wouldn’t abandon him, even if he went Full Caligula on live TV. These folks LOVED his attacks on Curiel, the Khans, and Machado, and are currently defending this outrage.

Then there are those who don’t really like Trump, but they fear Clinton so much that they endorsed/supported Trump once it was clear he was the nominee. They winced through the Curiel, Khan, and Machado meltdowns, toyed with the idea of dumping him each time HRC was up by 6 or more, but in the end stuck by him. They put themselves to sleep each night with a mantra of ‘Supreme Court, Supreme Court, Supreme Court’.

And finally, there are the NeverTrumps, who are the only ones with clear consciences this beautiful morning. Today many of the second category are joining the first.

This is damaging in a way that the 47% remark wasn’t. That was pretty much exactly what the GOP thinks. This is bragging about the ability to sexually assault women with impunity. Even for the Patriarchal GOP, that’s not part of their core beliefs. They can’t defend it. The most they can do is say, “He apologized, and let’s move on”.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:51:24am

re: #752 HappyWarrior

Speaking of Goodfellas, Bobby D’s takedown of Trump was awesome,

Yes, it was magnificent!

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:52:34am

re: #553 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:52:40am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:53:29am

re: #742 makeitstop

Carrying Skittles, was he?
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Tic tacs

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:53:42am

re: #556 PhillyPretzel

Renice will want the GOP to stay the course.

How long until Reince resigns in disgrace? Makes Michael Steele look like a genius.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:54:01am

re: #755 Backwoods_Sleuth

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philosophus invidius  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:54:38am

re: #756 makeitstop

I don’t know, but if the GOP thinks this is their chance to dump Trump, then they would do so by getting Pence to bolt, which would seem to force Trump’s hand.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:54:56am

Still not voting for her.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:55:43am
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:56:10am

Trump Breath Mints

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:56:15am

re: #751 Big Beautiful Door

No decent human being could continue to be associated with this nuclear reactor meltdown (dumpster fire is no longer fitting).

Like Frank said last night - from now on, dumpster fires and nuclear meltdowns will be referred to a ‘Trump campaigns.’ Hee Hee.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:56:40am

re: #767 darthstar

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Typical Marco, wants to have it both ways. I hope Murphy destroys him.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:56:43am

re: #740 philosophus invidius

Waiting for Pence to unendorse Trump.

He can’t, if he wants to ever run again he’ll need Trump’s diehard voters. He’s walking one hell of fine line right now, he’s probably genuinely angry and doesn’t want to be seen as defending Trump’s behavior but can’t afford to be seen as betraying him either.

I don’t envy the predicament he’s in but seriously fuck that guy, he’s a rancid shit-bubble in his own right who deserves every bit of this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:58:08am

re: #771 goddamnedfrank

He can’t, if he wants to ever run again he’ll need Trump’s diehard voters. He’s walking one hell of fine line right now, he’s probably genuinely angry and doesn’t want to be seen as defending Trump’s behavior but can’t afford to be seen as betraying him either.

I don’t envy the predicament he’s in but seriously fuck him, he’s a rancid shit-bubble in his own right who deserves every bit of this.

That’s how I feel about all of them. They all knew he was like this.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 9:58:13am

re: #748 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No one really knows how the game is played
The art of the trade
How the sausage gets made
We just assume that it happens
But no one else is in
The room where it happens.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:00:18am

re: #647 Ziggy_TARDIS

All Republicans can, with tiny number if exceptions, burn in hell.

There is no hell, there is only Pittsburgh:
dailymail.co.uk

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Danack  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:01:13am

re: #748 Backwoods_Sleuth

hear Trump huddled in meeting at Trump Tower w/ Rudy, Newt and Jeff Sessions. Source: Sessions arguing Trump should consider dropping out

The townhall debate is tomorrow.

Instead of spending the day doing final practice or just resting, Trump is having emergency meetings to stay in the race.

That townhall is going to be a shit-show for him.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:01:18am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:01:49am

re: #600 makeitstop

Someday, when someone writes the book on how a major American political party made every wrong turn imaginable in the course of destroying itself, this is the campaign they will reference.

In 63 years on this planet and 50 years voting in presidentials, I’ve never seen amateurism like this. The 2016 GOP makes the Dukakis and Mondale campaigns look like the picture of efficient, organized campaigns.

And I’ve got a feeling that between now and Election Day, something even more insane than what came out yesterday is gonna fall on Prince Tiny Hands. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Clinton campaign has at least one of these revelations a week until then.

Like I said back during the conventions, Trump has no idea who he is up against, and exactly how far over his ugly head he is. He’s in the process of learning this.

Its a bullfight. Hillary waves a red cape in his face, deftly sidesteps Trump’s charge, and plunges a knife in his back, over and over again.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:01:53am

re: #762 Barefoot Grin

Tic tacs

Touche!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:02:24am

re: #776 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:02:41am

re: #705 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:04:28am

re: #766 Jenner7

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Still not voting for her.

Yeah—fuck them all—way too little, way too late. If these “honorable” Republicans had any conscience or morals to begin with, they would have jumped off the train long ago. They’re all just trying to save their own asses now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:05:01am

re: #780 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They own this. They enabled this base for years with racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, and Trump is the natural byproduct of it. I might feel a little less bad for them if they would admit that we weren’t wrong about them and that their heroes like Reagan are responsible for why their party is such a bigoted cesspool.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:05:09am

re: #762 Barefoot Grin

Tic tacs

I imagine there are a lot of ways for Hillary to get under his skin tomorrow night. Like, offering him a TicTac when they greet each other. Using the word ‘grab’ any time she can. That sort of thing.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:05:28am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:06:13am

re: #781 BeachDem

Yeah—fuck them all—way too little, way too late. If these “honorable” Republicans had any conscience or morals to begin with, they would have jumped off the train long ago. They’re all just trying to save their own asses now.

Exactly. Just last week Kelly Ayotte said Trump was a role model. McCain called the criticism of his PTSD words media spin. Sorry guys. Trump is yours. You supported him. You need to own him and if you go down with him, that’s politics. You chose to put your party above everything and there are consequences for that.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:06:34am

re: #784 Stanley Sea

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:06:56am

re: #784 Stanley Sea

Too little, too late. Pence is on the ballot as Trump’s VP. Ballots are printed and people are already voting.

It’s over. Pence will be tied to Trump for the rest of his miserable life.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:07:02am

He’s all about “respecting the process.”

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:07:57am

Republicans seem to have lost touch with their primary voters.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:08:44am

We now go LIVE to the Trump campaign!

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:08:50am
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Great White Snark  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:09:06am

For all my friends that lean a little or a lot right, or left and are upset at how the media has ignored certain controversies with and near HRC, consider this.
The consensus now as we get close to the election itself is that if he wins Donald Trump is a clear and present danger to many kinds of American citizens. HRC, is a danger only in the customary political/policy sense. At worst.

(Gonna cross post this out and about)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:09:14am

Yeah replace Trump with Mike Pence who denied Trump said all the things that Kaine accurately quoted Trump as saying. the GOP just doesn’t get it.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:09:14am

re: #784 Stanley Sea

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:10:28am

re: #790 Eclectic Cyborg

Exclusive: Live Feed from inside Trump Tower!

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bratwurst  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:10:36am
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Tigger2  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:10:52am
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:11:44am

Seed of doubt planted. Doesn’t matter what Wikileaks releases. Plausible deniability is now firmly established.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:12:18am

re: #797 Tigger2

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If it was so important, your party’s voters never would have nominated a man with no elected experience and a history of making degrading comments about women and minorities. Your voters wanted Trump and now you have to share a a ballot with him. Stop trying to weasel out of it with Pence who is just as bad as Trump and yourselves.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:13:13am

For all their talk about personal responsibility, it all goes away when it’s their party that has shit egg on their faces.

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Danack  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:13:18am

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“This is what it’s like watching conservative Twitter right now.”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:14:19am

Too bad Irwin Allen died so long ago. He could have mad a helluva film about the Trump campaign.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:14:35am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:14:46am

re: #802 Barefoot Grin

Too bad Irwin Allen died so long ago. He could have mad a helluva film about the Trump campaign.

Yeah I can’t wait for the movie on this.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:14:58am

re: #798 darthstar

Meh. This won’t hurt her. It’s only put out there to anger Bernie holdouts who think she stole the primary.

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BeachDem  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:15:05am

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He’s all about “respecting the process.”

These brilliant Republicans are really shooting themselves in both feet. I don’t think Trump likes Pence at all, and the yam isn’t about to abdicate his position to someone he considers an inferior being and pretty much a pain in his ass.

Have these people ever met Trump?

All this call for him to step down and let Pence “carry the banner” will just make him more stubborn. (I don’t think they should be allowed to do it, just because they’re having “second thoughts”) Fuck them all.

(Sorry to be so foul-mouthed today, but between the shitstorm and the hurricane, I’m a little bit cranky.)

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Great White Snark  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:15:18am

re: #802 Barefoot Grin

Too bad Irwin Allen died so long ago. He could have mad a helluva film about the Trump campaign.

Hey no worries. We still have Michael Bay.
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LWC is so gonna bust my chops for that one.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:15:38am

Need a new thread….

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:16:40am

re: #801 Danack

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That’s a great video on so many levels.

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Tigger2  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:16:47am

re: #799 HappyWarrior

If it was so important, your party’s voters never would have nominated a man with no elected experience and a history of making degrading comments about women and minorities. Your voters wanted Trump and now you have to share a a ballot with him. Stop trying to weasel out of it with Pence who is just as bad as Trump and yourselves.

It’s funny how they think Trumps nomination is a fluke and not the results of FOX, Rightwing Radio and the GOPs constant lies and fear mongering year after year.

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austin_blue  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:16:58am

re: #676 Great White Snark

I kinda got away from that feeling. The train is not quite empty. Now by that I mean I see this debacle has diminished the process, many of those involved and in some ways the whole country. At first we could say fringe. Then fringe got in charge. Won the primary bigly. Fugly. And got worse from there.

Over on HRC’s side, she can’t shake Bill any more than Obama could shake birthers out of the media. In both cases burdened with undeserved weight. More examples could follow.

Donald Trump turned our process into a despicable, nay deplorable shambles. For personal gain too. He is no misguided patriot apart from unto himself.

Our kin in the UK like the term Omnishambles. Also, Trump supporting fuckwits.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:17:01am

re: #807 Great White Snark

Hey no worries. we still have Michael Bay.
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LWC is so gonna bust my chops for that one.

Michael Bay? Fuck that. A disaster this big can only be brought to the silver screen by Roland Emmerich.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:18:08am

Here’s the thing - EVEN IF Trump drops out, he won’t do it TODAY. Curiel, Khan, Machado? Those disasters each went on for a WHOLE WEEK or more before he FINALLY, and clearly reluctantly, gave up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:18:10am

re: #694 darthstar

Washington GOP official: Trump’s remarks were made when he was a Democrat

…and when he was baptized into the GOP, he was washed free of all his past sins and transgressions!

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:18:18am

re: #805 Jenner7

Meh. This won’t hurt her. It’s only put out there to anger Bernie holdouts who think she stole the primary.

Shit, she’s got more Republicans flocking to her right now than there are Bernie holdouts. Everyone’s voting for her no matter what. The Wikileaks stuff just reminds us that we’ll need to watch closely and not be surprised by certain decisions.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:18:54am

re: #701 Robert O.

I am still trying to digest how this will play out. Part of me thinks (and hopes) this was the ‘October Surprise’ that would deal the knockout blow to Trump’s campaign the same manner that the 47% video permanently knocked out Mitt Romney’s campaign in 2012. On the other hand, I must acknowledge this is a very unusual election. Those who are appalled by Trump’s comments were never voting for him anyway, while for those who are true Trump worshippers, there is nothing he can do that would make them vote for anyone else (Trump is probably correct that he could shoot someone in downtown Manhattan and he won’t lose too many votes).

Check 538.com’s election forecast, and be calm. Trump’s campaign was collapsing before the video was released. By the end of next week, his odds of victory will be close to zero.

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sagehen  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:19:26am

re: #746 HappyWarrior

You know what, I still think Garland should get the seat because he’s earned his nomination to the USSC through years of honorable service but the first choice Hillary gets, she should pick someone with a quite liberal record as a fuck you to McConnell.

McConnell is anticipating exactly this. Which is why on November 9, Garland’s hearing and vote will be IMMEDIATELY put on the schedule. They’ll have it done by Thanksgiving.

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:21:33am

re: #815 darthstar

Shit, she’s got more Republicans flocking to her right now than there are Bernie holdouts. Everyone’s voting for her no matter what. The Wikileaks stuff just reminds us that we’ll need to watch closely and not be surprised by certain decisions.

It’s hard to take the Wikileaks stuff seriously when what I’ve seen of it is so obviously fake. Real life does not sound like super-villains plotting in their lairs.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:22:29am

I don’t see why Trump would quit. For the good of the GOP? He doesn’t give a shit about the GOP. Trump is about Trump. And the GOP is stuck with him and should go down in flames with him.

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philosophus invidius  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:22:44am

re: #816 Big Beautiful Door

Now I’m worried that the tape makes things worse but getting Trump replaced.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:23:15am

re: #817 sagehen

McConnell is anticipating exactly this. Which is why on November 9, Garland’s hearing and vote will be IMMEDIATELY put on the schedule. They’ll have it done by Thanksgiving.

He’s precluding Hillary’s first opportunity to nominate Barack.

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JasonA  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:23:36am

re: #820 philosophus invidius

Now I’m worried that the tape makes things worse but getting Trump replaced.

Even that’s a disaster for them. His name is on the ballot. Stay calm.

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MsJ  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:23:54am

re: #818 EPR-radar

It’s hard to take the Wikileaks stuff seriously when what I’ve seen of it is so obviously fake. Real life does not sound like super-villains plotting in their lairs.

They lost credibility in their recent Rick Roll. They have released obvious fake stuff. Their star has dimmed to the point of being nonexistent.

Release away, Assange, you soviet stooge.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:24:09am

Man, this waiting for the other shoe to drop is seriously cutting into other stuff I should be doing.

OTOH, I guess this is why they invented multi-tab browsing. :)

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JasonA  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:24:35am

re: #824 makeitstop

Man, this waiting for the other shoe to drop is seriously cutting into other stuff I should be doing.

OTOH, I guess this is why they invented multi-tab browsing. :)

You need to rock two monitors.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:24:44am

re: #818 EPR-radar

I have yet to see any fake stuff but the stuff from the speeches is nothing.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:25:24am

re: #745 Dr Lizardo

I just checked the Trump for President website and I noticed that Pence’s schedule seems to have been removed. It now says “Please check back later for an updated schedule” when you look under the ‘Governor Mike Pence Events’ heading.

That’s odd. Isn’t it?

If Pence is part of a coup to remove Trump from the ticket, and the GOP thinks this will solve their problems, they are kidding themselves. The base will go nuts, and the fallout will be devastating. Of course, keeping Trump at the top of the ticket is just as bad, so they are screwed either way.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:26:35am

re: #825 JasonA

You need to rock two monitors.

I’ve got three! Currently reading here, teasing Trumpers on Facebook and trying to learn a Stones song for a wedding on Monday.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:27:19am

re: #827 Big Beautiful Door

If Pence is part of a coup to remove Trump from the ticket, and the GOP thinks this will solve their problems, they are kidding themselves. The base will go nuts, and the fallout will be devastating. Of course, keeping Trump at the top of the ticket is just as bad, so they are screwed either way.

How would they even remove him? There’s literally no legal recourse at this point but to hold steady and pray fervently that this Chernobyl doesn’t wind up torpedoing their hopes for control of one or both houses of Congress.

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sagehen  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:27:31am

re: #792 Great White Snark

For all my friends that lean a little or a lot right, or left and are upset at how the media has ignored certain controversies with and near HRC, consider this.
The consensus now as we get close to the election itself is that if he wins Donald Trump is a clear and present danger to many kinds of American citizens. HRC, is a danger only in the customary political/policy sense. At worst.

(Gonna cross post this out and about)

From P.J. O’Roarke’s endorsement of Hillary:

“Sure, she’s wrong about everything. But she’s wrong within normal parameters.”

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JasonA  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:27:46am

re: #828 makeitstop

I’ve got three! Currently reading here, teasing Trumpers on Facebook and trying to learn a Stones song for a wedding on Monday.

Okay. You’re doing it right.

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austin_blue  Oct 8, 2016 • 10:27:52am

re: #745 Dr Lizardo

I just checked the Trump