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1
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:10:31pm

Trumpty Dumpty promised a wall,
Trumpty Dumpty had a great fall,
All Breitbarts horses
And all Reinces men,
Couldn’t put Trumpty together again.

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:15:15pm

Bless her heart!

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KGxvi  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:18:09pm

Don’t know if anyone mentioned it already, but they posted a chat at 538 where one of them mentioned that “the racist vote” has always been a voting block that favored one party or the other. But that the Republicans’ problem may be that the white nationalist voting block might be the largest plurality in their coalition. Which obviously, is going to be a problem for them long yerm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:22:44pm

Part 2 of the video (which shows up as a click option once you finish playing the video) is also not to be missed as it includes the Ana Navarro rant on CNN.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:35:50pm

I was reading about the Taj Mahal casino closing today, I I got to wondering, “does Trump know he named his casino after a Muslim shrine?”

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Stanley Sea  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:35:53pm

re: #4 Eric The Fruit Bat

Part 2 of the video (which shows up as a click option once you finish playing the video) is also not to be missed as it includes the Ana Navarro rant on CNN.

The pure never Trump people are good. They have morals. I will respect them.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:36:02pm

That was …epic.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:37:22pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:38:47pm

Phillip Bump at WaPo throwing shade at Kurt Eichenwald at Newsweek:

At about 5 p.m. Eastern on Monday, Sputnik ran its article on an email from the Podesta dump that appears to have come from longtime Clinton ally Sidney Blumenthal. (The timing can be determined by the timestamp on the article, which is seven hours ahead of Eastern time in the United States.)

“The attack was almost certainly preventable,” Sputnik reports Blumenthal writing to Podesta about the terrorist attacks in Benghazi in 2012. “Clinton was in charge of the State Department, and it failed to protect U.S. personnel at an American consulate in Libya.”
But Sputnik either misread or misrepresented the contents of the email. The original makes clear that Blumenthal was passing along a news article — from Newsweek, by Eichenwald — and not sharing his own thoughts. (In fact, the original email suggests that Blumenthal was passing along the article because it mentions himself, if for no other reason.) This isn’t a “falsification” of the email, as Eichenwald puts it, since the email is there in the batch. In the most charitable interpretation, it’s a sloppy misreading of it.

Perhaps realizing that, Sputnik pulled the article at some point.

At about 6 p.m. Eastern, Trump was scheduled to take the stage at a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. During his speech, he pulled a piece of paper out of his pocket and said, “This just came out a little while ago.” The “this” appears to have been the alleged confession by Blumenthal that was misreported by Sputnik. The crowd, as Eichenwald notes, began to boo Hillary Clinton.

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bratwurst  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:40:49pm

From the “Better Late Than Never” file:

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:41:11pm

Some followup…

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LastYearsMan  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:41:30pm

re: #9 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yeah, because a presidential nominee repeating a batshit and blatantly false report that doesn’t have Kremlin ties is just fine…

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Lidane  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:41:54pm

I’m not nearly as optimistic as the person tweeting this, but still. Abbott wouldn’t be sending this out if Trump was winning:

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:44:58pm

re: #13 Lidane

Sounds like Abbott is afraid that he’ll have to pay back his bribe from Trump.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:45:24pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart

Disciplined appropriately: High five dudes! Now take a week off. With pay.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:46:25pm

re: #13 Lidane

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If Hillary can turn Texas blue, then a 400 EV point rout is entirely plausible.

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:46:30pm

re: #15 GlutenFreeJesus

Disciplined appropriately: High five dudes! Now take a week off. With pay.

Right, and be sure to post all of your selfies on the county web site. MAGA!

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:47:55pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

If Hillary can turn Texas blue, then a 400 EV point rout is entirely plausible.

Abbott seems terrified that there’s an election coming up and the Dems are competing in it. It’s the Alamo all over again!

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whitebeach  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:48:56pm

OK, night before last I took a fall. Four in the morning, I’m going to take a leak. I have fairly severe peripheral neuropathy in my feet, which makes staying vertically stable a problem sometimes. Anyway, suddenly I’m going backward, my head hits a door and then hits the floor really hard. Pretty sure I had at least a mild concussion, and the effects lingered through yesterday and most of today. So tonight I’m talking to my brother in Dallas, a guy who up until this election has had a very measured and impartial approach to politics, and I tell him about my accident and how hard I hit my head. He immediately says, “Do it a few more times and you’ll be a Trump supporter.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:49:05pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:49:24pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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Grifters gonna grift.

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:50:55pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Odds on his getting stiffed on salary?

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:52:01pm

re: #13 Lidane

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Can a human being actually die of schadenfreude? We might find out election night, if Texas does go for Hillary. My daughter will fill you in if I do happen to expire from sheer joy.

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:53:33pm

re: #19 whitebeach

OMG! I hope you’re ok! You went to the hospital, right? Concussions are nothing to play with!

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:53:41pm

re: #13 Lidane

That’s about the most breathless announcement ever written of an office opening in Houston.

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:54:23pm

re: #25 jaunte

That’s about the most breathless announcement ever written of an office opening in Houston.

Send money!

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:54:42pm

re: #13 Lidane

I’m not nearly as optimistic as the person tweeting this, but still. Abbott wouldn’t be sending this out if Trump was winning:

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Governor Abbott,
Thanks for the reminder. As well as making a contribution to the Clinton campaign, I will be making a donation to the Texas Democratic Party as well.

Additionally, hopefully, within the next few months when the investigation into Donald Trump’s bribery of state officials over Trump University comes up, you’ll be seeing a felony indictment as well as your good pal State Attorney General Ken Paxton, who is looking at a stint in Club Fed over federal corruption charges. The only bad part of all of this is that we might be having to deal with that lunatic Lt. Governor Dan Patrick for awhile.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:54:44pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

He’s probably running the Pepe t-shirt booth.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:55:09pm

The crowds!

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:57:15pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:57:30pm

Wow…Cubs fight back to take the lead 6-5 in the 9th after being down 5-2. Good game. Now San Fran fans look bummed.They still have an at-bat in the bottom half of the ninth.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:58:03pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:58:36pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

Wow…Cubs fight back to take the lead 6-5 in the 9th after being down 5-2. Good game. Now San Fran fans look bummed.They still have an at-bat in the bottom half of the ninth.

HOLD ON CHICAGO! HOLD ON!

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whitebeach  Oct 11, 2016 • 8:59:27pm

re: #24 MsJ

OMG! I hope you’re ok! You went to the hospital, right? Concussions are nothing to play with!

OK, I think. Not my first rodeo. But we don’t go to doctors much. My mom, who’s in her nineties, hasn’t been to one in six years or so. My bro went a few years back and told them he was an ongoing patient of the doctor’s. They couldn’t find a file and asked him when he last came in. He thought about it and said, “I guess it must have been about fourteen years back.”

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:00:39pm

re: #34 whitebeach

Doesn’t mean you can’t dent your noggin!

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Joe Bacon  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:01:31pm

re: #10 bratwurst

From the “Better Late Than Never” file:

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That was from last July and Dimwit D’Stupid was able to weasel out of it…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:05:28pm

Not sure Caruso’s post is accurate. Chuck is such a blowhard egotist that if he were really hired by the Trump campaign he would have announced it on his Facebook page and at his shitty blog, and there’s nothing at either place about this.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:06:47pm

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:06:53pm

Trump is trashing his big asset.

The [Vancouver, Canada] Trump Tower installed massive chrome lettering spelling ‘Trump’ earlier in the summer, but covered it in blue tarps a short time later. A spokesperson at the time shrugged off questions about why the signage was covered, saying the tarps protected it from scratches from construction debris.
globalnews.ca

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:11:56pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

I think everyone is rooting for them, even the other teams, albeit secretly.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:12:53pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Not sure Caruso’s post is accurate. Chuck is such a blowhard egotist that if he were really hired by the Trump campaign he would have announced it on his Facebook page and at his shitty blog, and there’s nothing at either place about this.

It depends on what his role would be: chair arranger, manservant to Trump, envelope opener.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:12:56pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Not sure Caruso’s post is accurate. Chuck is such a blowhard egotist that if he were really hired by the Trump campaign he would have announced it on his Facebook page and at his shitty blog, and there’s nothing at either place about this.

NDA

//

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:13:00pm

re: #39 jaunte

Trump is trashing his big asset.

Heh.

But that all depends on what manner Trump handles himself in the coming months. If more insensitive comments keep hitting the news, he said he wouldn’t be surprised if the project was delayed further.

“Hopefully Donny says nothing more about Canadian health care or Canadian women for that matter, god knows what… I’m so glad I’m not a consultant on this job.”

Trump spent a good bit of tonight’s rally falsely trashing the Canadian health system.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:13:57pm

re: #41 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It depends on what his role would be: chair arranger, manservant to Trump, envelope opener.

Fluffer.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:14:43pm

re: #17 Skip Intro

You were asking about Mike Cernovich downstairs. Did you get that snip from this webpage? simpleguyskills.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:16:05pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

Fluffer.

The guy responsible for setting out the lines of coke and rolling up a Benjamin for The Donald to use.

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:16:31pm

re: #45 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I got it from The Fogbow. It was just a jpeg so I have no idea where it came from. It sounded right to me though.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:16:44pm

re: #41 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Maybe he will just run back and forth to In-N-Out wearing his Pepe shirt and MAGA cap!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:17:44pm

re: #47 Skip Intro

I got it from The Fogbow. It was just a jpeg so I have no idea where it came from. It sounded right to me though.

Read the link I posted. Cernovich is a head case.

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:18:30pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

It’s possible Trump is looking for another drug supplier and heard that CCJ has a HAW who works at a pharmacy.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:18:49pm

re: #46 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

48,000 karma. You’re welcome. :)

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:19:15pm

re: #50 Skip Intro

It’s possible Trump is looking for another drug supplier and heard that CCJ has a HAW who works at a pharmacy.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

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whitebeach  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:20:23pm

re: #41 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It depends on what his role would be: chair arranger, manservant to Trump, envelope opener.

Probably safe to say it won’t be floor polisher.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:20:41pm

re: #48 Joe Bacon

Maybe he will just run back and forth to In-N-Out wearing his Pepe shirt and MAGA cap!

I am reminded of the Die Hard with a Vengeance scene where John McClaine is standing in Harlem with a sandwich board saying “I hate n****rs.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:21:24pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

48,000 karma. You’re welcome. :)

Dayum! Thanks.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:28:17pm

#ConfessYourUnpopularOpinion

The third Die Hard is the best Die Hard.

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:29:32pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

I’ve heard it from many people, the top people, everybody’s talking about it. It’s disgusting. I don’t want to talk about it, it’s so disgusting.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:30:04pm
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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:31:10pm

re: #13 Lidane

I’m not nearly as optimistic as the person tweeting this, but still. Abbott wouldn’t be sending this out if Trump was winning:

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That’s a letter to energize the base when it’s released to the gaspers. C’mon! It’s Texas in 2016! Talk to me in six years.

Would that it were different.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:32:44pm

re: #58 Kragar

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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:40:04pm

This is the funniest line I’ve read tonight, from the NYT:
Billy Bush, one of NBC’s most important on-air personalities

If that’s the case, NBC must not be long for this world. Watching John Oliver’s montage of creepy Billy Bush interviews was really, well, creepy.

Oh, also in the NYT article, one of the other excuses for NBC getting scooped by the WaPo was because of the Jewish Holidays. I truly believe that if Fahrenthold hadn’t gotten that tape, NBC would have buried it completely.

nytimes.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:40:48pm

Hey BeachDem, did you catch this last week’s SNL yet? Lin Manuel Miranda hosted.

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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:43:18pm

re: #62 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hey BeachDem, did you catch this last week’s SNL yet? Lin Manuel Miranda hosted.

No—thanks for reminding me (you KNOW I love that man.) Just got power back today and watched John Oliver tonight, while trying to catch up on emails and work. Will definitely watch it tomorrow.

While spending most of my weekend sitting in my car to charge various devices, I probably listed the Hamilton about 5 times all the way through—not that I’m complaining…

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:45:33pm

Carly Simon allows the use of ‘You’re So Vain’ in an anti-Trump video—with one tiny tweak

The original “You’re So Vain” lyrics stay the same with one exception. Instead of, “Your scarf, it was apricot” the lyric is now, “Your face, it was apricot.”

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Stanley Sea  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:47:50pm

Ire: #45 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You were asking about Mike Cernovich downstairs. Did you get that snip from this webpage? simpleguyskills.com

This is just one example of all the shit I’m reading.

It’s about Power.

So lost in the pussy language was the power that somehow allowed assault.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:48:42pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:51:50pm

re: #48 Joe Bacon

Maybe he will just run back and forth to In-N-Out wearing his Pepe shirt and MAGA cap!


Remember, in all likelihood, Chuck got dressed like this, looked in the mirror and went, “Oh yeah, looking good. Total alpha male!”
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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:52:21pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

Carly Simon allows the use of ‘You’re So Vain’ in an anti-Trump video—with one tiny tweak

Love the escalator descent to “You walked into the party, like you were walking onto a yacht.” (wish they’d included a little of how he had to sell his yacht, which he was afraid to go out to sea on, to a Saudi prince.)

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:53:51pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

#ConfessYourUnpopularOpinion

The third Die Hard is the best Die Hard.

Yeah, I can see how that would be an unpopular opinion.

Sheesh. Phew.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:54:41pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:55:17pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:56:46pm

re: #67 Ace-o-aces

Remember, in all likelihood, Chuck got dressed like this, looked in the mirror and went, “Oh yeah, looking good. Total alpha male!”

Looks like he’s the Pillsbury D’oh Boy.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:57:14pm

re: #68 BeachDem

Love the escalator descent to “You walked into the party, like you were walking onto a yacht.” (wish they’d included a little of how he had to sell his yacht, which he was afraid to go out to sea on, to a Saudi prince.)

I read that on its first voyage with Trump aboard there was rough seas, and the yacht was rocking pretty hard. Trump allegedly was afraid the ship was sinking, demanded they return to port, and after that never took the yacht out on the water again.

What a waste. I hope Prince whatshisname of the Sauds has gotten better use out of it.

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:57:25pm

re: #67 Ace-o-aces

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Remember, in all likelihood, Chuck got dressed like this, looked in the mirror and went, “Oh yeah, looking good. Total alpha male!”

Who’s taking his picture? His HAW? A fellow traveller? He looks like a poorly dressed ewok.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 9:59:43pm

re: #74 austin_blue

Who’s taking his picture? His HAW? A fellow traveller? He looks like a poorly dressed ewok.

My guess is the photog was his pal, Peter Duke, or maybe Pax Dickinsox Dickinson, his WeSearchr co-conspirator.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:01:01pm

re: #72 Jebediah, RBG

Looks like he’s the Pillsbury D’oh Boy.

Looks like “Do you even lift, Bro?” was coined just for him.

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:01:11pm

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I read that on its first voyage with Trump aboard there was rough seas, and the yacht was rocking pretty hard. Trump allegedly was afraid the ship was sinking, demanded they return to port, and after that never took the yacht out on the water again.

What a waste. I hope Prince whatshisname of the Sauds has gotten better use out of it.

Golly, it almost sounds like The Donald is an external genitalia.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:03:55pm
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whitebeach  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:06:02pm

re: #68 BeachDem

Love the escalator descent to “You walked into the party, like you were walking onto a yacht.” (wish they’d included a little of how he had to sell his yacht, which he was afraid to go out to sea on, to a Saudi prince.)

Sold it for about 30 million less than he bought it for. Businessman.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:07:14pm

re: #77 austin_blue

Golly, it almost sounds like The Donald is an external genitalia.

Armchair psychiatrists could have a field day analyzing Trump. The man has some serious issues.

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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:07:35pm

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I read that on its first voyage with Trump aboard there was rough seas, and the yacht was rocking pretty hard. Trump allegedly was afraid the ship was sinking, demanded they return to port, and after that never took the yacht out on the water again.

What a waste. I hope Prince whatshisname of the Sauds has gotten better use out of it.

Yep—we must have read the same article—can’t remember where it was.

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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:08:36pm

re: #74 austin_blue

Who’s taking his picture? His HAW? A fellow traveller? He looks like a poorly dressed ewok.

And I’m sorry, but those jeans look like they haven’t seen a washer in forever—disgusting.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:09:06pm

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I read that on its first voyage with Trump aboard there was rough seas, and the yacht was rocking pretty hard. Trump allegedly was afraid the ship was sinking, demanded they return to port, and after that never took the yacht out on the water again.

What a waste. I hope Prince whatshisname of the Sauds has gotten better use out of it.

Bottom line, and forgotten, Trump is a fucking weirdo.

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Tigger2  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:09:51pm

No fucks to give Obama tells a heckler to go start his own rally.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:15:26pm

re: #79 whitebeach

Sold it for about 30 million less than he bought it for. Businessman.

Liquidation sale. It was part of his bankruptcy plan after his Atlantic City casinos and Plaza Hotel ventures went sour.

This is what gets me about Trump marketing himself as a financial genius. He isn’t. His reckless real estate investments and acquisitions between 1988 and 1990 violated every rule of sensible business practice. He paid way too much for the Plaza Hotel, because of his emotional need to buy it. He bought not one, but three casinos in Atlantic City, so he was competing not only against other operators but his own companies. His renovations and designs of the three properties were way over the top, meaning he spent too much money at once before ensuring the casinos would even turn a profit. Meanwhile, he bought the yacht and started an airline, which included a helo service from NYC to Atlantic City for his casino guests. But he never used the helo service, because it was costing too much money. So his guests had to drive or take a bus to the casinos.

Everything he did, he did wrong. It’s no surprise that the NYC banks refused to lend him money at below prime rates. His was a disaster just waiting to happen.

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majii  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:17:46pm

re: #83 Stanley Sea

“Bottom line, and forgotten, Trump is a fucking weirdo.”

I agree, and what bothers me a lot is why millions of others can’t see how weird he is. The guy’s behavior is what I’d call “out of the norm.” I remember reading an article a few months ago that mentioned that one of the main reasons some would vote for him is because he “would shake things up in D.C.” What a sh*tty reason for voting for someone who would be recognized as the leader of the free world. These same persons have spent the last seven plus years depicting President Obama as un-American. Trump’s picture should be placed beside the word un-American wherever it appears in print. The guy thinks he’s running for dictator, not POTUS, and he showed it in the debate Sunday night by indicating that if he’s elected, he’d use his office to send HRC to federal prison. He has no idea that that is not the way our justice system works, and neither do his supporters.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:19:25pm

re: #82 BeachDem

And I’m sorry, but those jeans look like they haven’t seen a washer in forever—disgusting.

Every photo I’ve seen of Rage Furby leaves me the same impression: shlub. He looks like a single guy who never learned how to wash and hang his clothes, much less match shirt to pants and jacket, and just grabs whatever rumpled clothes are on the floor to go out. Yet, he claims he is married. Maybe the HAW has given up trying to civilize him.

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:22:58pm

re: #86 majii

“Bottom line, and forgotten, Trump is a fucking weirdo.”

I agree, and what bothers me a lot is why millions of others can’t see how weird he is. The guy’s behavior is what I’d call “out of the norm.” I remember reading an article a few months ago that mentioned that one of the main reasons some would vote for him is because he “would shake things up in D.C.” What a sh*tty reason for voting for someone who would be recognized as the leader of the free world. These same persons have spent the last seven plus years depicting President Obama as un-American. Trump’s picture should be placed beside the word un-American wherever it appears in print. The guy thinks he’s running for dictator, not POTUS, and he showed it in the debate Sunday night by indicating that if he’s elected, he’d use his office to send HRC to federal prison. He has no idea that that is not the way our justice system works, and neither does his supporters.

Simply put, he feeds their paranoia. He is their id personified. He justifies their crazy.

Is this the majority of his supporters? Probably not, but it *is* a plurality.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:31:19pm

Obama’s first post POTUS interview is going to be epic.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:32:54pm

re: #88 austin_blue

Simply put, he feeds their paranoia. He is their id personified. He justifies their crazy.

Is this the majority of his supporters? Probably not, but it *is* a plurality.

An oldie but a goody:

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:34:23pm
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TedStriker  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:36:52pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

#ConfessYourUnpopularOpinion

The third Die Hard is the best Die Hard.

Die Hard 1-3 are all pretty good action flicks, all for different reasons.

Die Hard: Willis vs. Rickman, hell yeah! Plus, solid performances from the supporting cast, especially Reginald VelJohnson (post-Crocodile Dundee, but before Family Matters) and the always smarmy, arrogant, easy-to-hate William Atherton.

Die Hard 2: Interesting plot, but lacks the really strong big bad of the 1st and 3rd movies (well, it is definitely hard to follow up Alan Rickman, but Jeremy Irons was able to do so in DHwaV); however, the supporting cast was good (Atherton’s smarmy, arrogant asshole reporter and VelJohnson’s Sgt. Al Powell returns and are supplemented by, among others, Dennis Franz and the late Fred Thompson), with some surprises (John Amos and John Leguizamo, who almost always plays good guys, are part of the bad guy team here).

Die Hard with a Vengeance: Willis, Irons, and Jackson…definitely as good, if not better in some ways, as the original. As I opined above, Irons definitely brought his A-game as the big bad, a worthy successor to Rickman’s Hans Gruber.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:42:04pm

re: #92 TedStriker

Die Hard 1-3 are all pretty good action flicks, all for different reasons.

Die Hard: Willis vs. Rickman, hell yeah! Plus, solid performances from the supporting cast, especially Reginald VelJohnson (post-Crocodile Dundee, but before Family Matters) and the always smarmy, arrogant, easy-to-hate William Atherton.

Die Hard 2: Interesting plot, but lacks the really strong big bad of the 1st and 3rd movies (well, it is definitely hard to follow up Alan Rickman, but Jeremy Irons was able to do so in DHwaV); however, the supporting cast was good (Atherton’s smarmy, arrogant asshole reporter returns and has more screen time than in the original, Reginald VelJohnson also returns, and are supplemented by, among others, Dennis Franz and the late Fred Thompson), with some surprises (John Amos and John Leguizamo, who almost always plays good guys, are part of the bad guy team here).

Die Hard with a Vengeance: Willis, Irons, and Jackson…definitely as good, if not better in some ways, as the original. As I opined above, Irons definitely brought his A-game as the big bad, a worthy successor to Rickman’s Hans Gruber.

Plus, they make for great family entertainment around Christmastime!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:45:26pm

re: #93 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Plus, they make for great family entertainment around Christmastime!

Yippie-ki-yay, motherfucker Mr. Falcon!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:46:50pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 10:57:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:00:41pm

DF is still out there trying to convince himself his party’s base isn’t racist.

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:00:53pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

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Where it is warheaded?

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freetoken  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:02:20pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

Cognitive dissonance is manifesting all over the place. The inability of some Republicans to accept that Drumpfskind is just carrying on the work of people like Ailes is telling in itself.

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freetoken  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:02:34pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

C.f. …

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:04:43pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

DF is still out there trying to convince himself his party’s base isn’t racist.

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The Civil War was all about tariffs and states’ rights.

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Tigger2  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:09:51pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

DF is still out there trying to convince himself his party’s base isn’t racist.

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I take it he’s not voting for Hillary /. :)

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gwangung  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:10:58pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

You know….it would help if Republicans didn’t engage in racist and sexist stereotypes…welfare queens, Philadelphia, MS, Willie Horton, binders of women, etc.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:19:21pm

So, if trends continue, I figure by Halloween (October 31st), give or take a few days, it should be glaringly obvious to everyone - except the most wilfully ignorant - that Trump is not going to win the presidency. That’s not even taking into account any fresh Trump scandals that may blow up between now and the end of the month.

I’m thinking that’s when the freakout really begins.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:19:22pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:20:17pm

re: #98 austin_blue

Where it is warheaded?

Yellowstone Caldera. Rumor is when the election is all over Owen’s going to find a graphic artist to publish the whole series.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:20:45pm

A federal judge has ordered a status conference hearing after a woman filed a lawsuit claiming Donald Trump raped her when she was 13-years-old in 1994.

In the lawsuit a witness, identified by the pseudonym Tiffany Doe, alleges she saw Mr Trump and billionaire-paedophile Jeffrey Epstein repeatedly rape the plaintiff, identified as Jane Doe.

The complaint claims Epstein hired an unidentified woman to pick up teenage girls to bring to his parties.

google.com

how far do you want to push the clinton rape allegations, donald?

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:24:29pm

Night all. The R’s are chewing their legs off like skunks in a steel trap.

Let’s see what tomorrow brings. More entertainment, doubtless.

There’s not enough popcorn on the planet to fill our needs for the next month.

Our political world is sweet elysium.

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:30:48pm

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

So, if trends continue, I figure by Halloween (October 31st), give or take a few days, it should be glaringly obvious to everyone - except the most wilfully ignorant - that Trump is not going to win the presidency. That’s not even taking into account any fresh Trump scandals that may blow up between now and the end of the month.

I’m thinking that’s when the freakout really begins.

A huge outbreak of Killer Clowns demanding Treats or Votes for Trump?

(Here’s your Reese’s Cup, dude. Really, get the fuck off my lawn.)

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majii  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:30:59pm

re: #103 gwangung

“You know….it would help if Republicans didn’t engage in racist and sexist stereotypes…welfare queens, Philadelphia, MS, Willie Horton, binders of women, etc.”

It has occurred to me that when these things are brought up, they either—A. Claim they never happened, or B. Claim that these things aren’t related/linked to racism. What they never seem to try to do is put themselves in the place of those who are the targets of this type of sh*t. I could tell them more about what life was like as a black person living under Jim Crow in the South, but they’d have to be willing to listen and try seeing it from my perspective, but they can’t or won’t. It’s not that I’m blaming them for what happened, but it appears to me that that’s the only way they are capable of seeing it. This is what makes it so difficult to discuss racism with them, even the racist experiences of someone like myself who has actually lived as a target of racism They cannot grasp the fact that I was targeted for no other reason than, according to these persons’ ancestors, I had too much melanin in my skin.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:33:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:34:04pm

re: #105 goddamnedfrank

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RWNJs have never been noted for self-awareness. A few years I had one on the phone while I was hosting a local radio show. He spouted some RWNJ drivel and got his ears pinned back. Having lost the battle of wits, he sneeringly pointed out that my nickname, “Jimmy,” is an occasional euphemism for the male genitalia.

The caller’s name?

“Dick.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:35:55pm

re: #109 austin_blue

A huge outbreak of Killer Clowns demanding Treats or Votes for Trump?

Heh. More likely an explosion of anger as they realize they’re going down.

From what I’m seeing on some of the various fever swamps, Trump’s supporters are viewing 2016 as their “last chance” and if instead, by some political miracle, the Democrats can take the Senate and the House (a hat trick) then I really have no idea how they’re going to react to such an epic electoral defeat.

I’d like to think that maybe they’ll wake up and realize that their ideas have no appeal outside their own little bubbleverse. But that’s probably not gonna happen. They’ll quadruple-down on their insanity instead.

At this rate, they’ll likely to run David Duke and Jared Taylor in 2020. IT’LL WORK THIS TIME GUYS!!!

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:47:09pm

The poll shows Clinton and Trump tied at 26 percent, McMullin with 22 percent and Libertarian Gary Johnson getting 14 percent if the election were held today. Y2 Analytics surveyed 500 likely Utah voters over landlines and cellphones Oct. 10-11 The poll has a plus or minus 4.4 percent margin of error.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:50:42pm
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LastYearsMan  Oct 11, 2016 • 11:58:39pm

re: #113 Dr Lizardo

I’d like to think that maybe they’ll wake up and realize that their ideas have no appeal outside their own little bubbleverse. But that’s probably not gonna happen. They’ll quadruple-down on their insanity instead.

The complete inability and unwillingness to learn is what really drives me nuts (not only Republicans, but so much worse for them these days). You’d think after eight years of cataclysmic predictions that utterly failed to come to pass, there would be some reassessing. But no.

This is philosophy 101 stuff. For any belief system, you need to have ways it can be disproven, otherwise it’s useless shite. But so few people are interested in remotely considering such things. Argh.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 12, 2016 • 12:20:38am

Trump’s first day at 7-11

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2016 • 12:24:37am
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 12:29:40am

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

DF is still out there trying to convince himself his party’s base isn’t racist.

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Two of the greatest reforms in US history were the civil war and the civil rights era. Given this history, it is to be expected that US conservatism would become racist in the process of opposing these reforms, unless special efforts were made to avoid that.

It’s fair to say that no such effort was made. Conservative Democrats in the south after the civil war won the peace and instituted Jim Crow. Decades later, the conservatives changed from Democrat to Republican once it became clear that they could no longer control the Democratic party to prevent it from pushing for racial equality.

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piratedan  Oct 12, 2016 • 12:44:42am

I look at the GOP problems and they are daunting…

1) racism - sure, they have Ben Carson and before him Hermain Cain… but how close are they to the levers of power. Do they have anyone like John Lewis? Barrack Obama?

Read any comment section, look at who is showing up to their rallies. Even more telling, look at what legislation they are passing or attempting to pass. Voter ID laws and voting restrictions primarily aimed at minority voters. Lobbying to fly Confederate Flags at national cemeteries.

2) Cleek’s Law - you cannot run a national platform as being the Anti party. Against abortion, against gun control, against government interference in business, against rights for women, minorities, non heterosexual sexual orientation. All of the tried and true patter and jive that they’ve been selling has been proven not to work, their economic, business and social positions are all outdated and deemed offensive.

3) How can you be the party of strong foreign policy and have your candidate be under the sway of our main ideological opponent in the world? Plus, you don’t even seem to give a shit that he’s been compromised. You can’t simply bomb every fucking body that disagrees with you nor can you simply invade them and take their stuff.

4) lack of introspection - these guys have no way of doing anything about their faults. The GOP Establishment laid out what was wrong with their party in 2012. What did the establishment do to fix it. Apparently not a damn thing. In addition to not learning any lessons, they have also apparently lost control of their party.

5) In the short term, its been fun to watch those that have driven their bus off the cliff but I suspect that we all know that this kind of upheaval is going to have telling consequences.

a) how do we end up kicking these alt-right loons back under their rock, and how do we disarm them without getting the scooter brigade completely unhinged?
b) how do we recover from being a pseudo police state and start getting law enforcement to recognize that their job is to protect and serve not subdue and execute
c) watch the reformation of political parties because make no mistake, I suspect that with the GOP disintegration, we may well see the coalition that has been assembled to combat the GOP splinter itself as the GOP devolves into an alt-right fascist organization.

The only thing that comforts me, is thinking that Hillary probably has plans to meet with Nancy Smash and Schumer to get an agenda put together and to try and be effective in prioritizing and implementing what needs to be done. If nothing else, she has shown herself to be one very prepared lady.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:04:11am

Sure enough, the Trump U trial starts on 28. Nov.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:05:57am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:06:27am

re: #121 teleskiguy

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Sure enough, the Trump U trial starts on 28. Nov.

Nice catch. Yeah, an unconscious slip of the tongue on Trump’s part. He probably is worried about it, to be honest.

ETA: Yeah, I’m sure he is worried about it. Just saw this, from an older article, written this summer:

Clearly, of these two most recent rulings, the more significant is the fact that the case is now going to trial in November, along with two related cases. But the class-action RICO case is the greatest threat to Trump, and a loss that would be unbecoming a president-elect, should he win in November. For if he loses the RICO case not only will he have been found to have committed serious federal felonies, but he is subject to treble damages and attorney fees, which could result in a personal bankruptcy.

verdict.justia.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:20:45am

re: #16 Targetpractice

If Hillary can turn Texas blue, then a 400 EV point rout is entirely plausible.

I cannot image TX or AZ going blue this time around, but I would love to see them be embarrassingly close. No wonder the GOP sees increased voter registration and participation as a net- loss proposition.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:26:34am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There have been more Democrats than Republicans on the registration rolls in this country for many years (thanks to FDR.) Unfortunately what counts is not how many people are registered but how many people vote.

Many of our fellow Americans just don’t care. This is not new.

Our democracy is not sustained by the majority of the population but by the minority who care to tend to it.

This too is not unique. Everywhere in a human society you will find that some social good, some place or service, is maintained by just a few people, but the many benefit.

Think of the cemeteries which are kept up by a few volunteers, or your public library which is maintained by some patrons, or even your local sidewalk which might be swept by some little old lady to be kept clean because most of the neighbors just don’t care.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:27:56am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot image TX or AZ going blue this time around, but I would love to see them be embarrassingly close. No wonder the GOP sees increased voter registration and participation as a net- loss proposition.

I see AZ going before Texas, at least this year, because McCain is up for re-election and his turning on Trump could depress GOP turnout for both of them. No such state wide Senate race at play in Texas right now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:36:34am

re: #120 piratedan

I look at the GOP problems and they are daunting…

Latinos. Potentially a big bloc of support for the GOP, as they tend to be religious, socially conservative and family oriented. But those “family values” include strong families, strong communities, good schools and civic institutions.

GOP family values seem to be limited to banning abortion and discriminating against LGBTs.

And the majority of citizens in the Latino community are immigrants or descendants of immigrants, and want to see a comprehensive, rational and humane reform of immigration policy, not just a platform of “round ‘em all up and build a wall!”

And they are not tone-deaf to the message, implied or direct, that they are coming in and taking somebody else’s country away from them.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:41:07am
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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:48:33am

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

Jane Goodall called it:

nytlive.nytimes.com

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:51:55am

re: #129 freetoken

Jane Goodall called it:

nytlive.nytimes.com

LOL, that was almost going to be my tweet.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 1:53:13am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:25:08am

About two decades ago, I read “When Prophecy Fails”, one of the seminal works of modern social psychology. For those unfamiliar, it was a study of a small Chicago-based UFO religion which believed in an imminent apocalypse and when that prophesized apocalypse didn’t happen, it then took a look into the group’s coping mechanisms and how they dealt with their failed prediction.

I can’t help but wonder if we’ll see something similar with Trump’s supporters, except on a much larger and national scale? That right there would make a fascinating study in sociocultural mass psychology.

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Alyosha  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:30:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:36:08am

re: #132 Dr Lizardo

About two decades ago, I read “When Prophecy Fails”, one of the seminal works of modern social psychology. For those unfamiliar, it was a study of a small Chicago-based UFO religion which believed in an imminent apocalypse and when that prophesized apocalypse didn’t happen, it then took a look into the group’s coping mechanisms and how they dealt with their failed prediction.

I can’t help but wonder if we’ll see something similar with Trump’s supporters, except on a much larger and national scale? That right there would make a fascinating study in sociocultural mass psychology.

It will get ugly. They will contest the outcome and insist that it was the result of massive fraud, manipulation, intimidation and media bias on an unprecedented scale. Worst case scenario is an 1860-s like situation in which broad swaths of the nation refuse to recognize HRC as the legally elected President.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:38:21am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It will get ugly. They will contest the outcome and insist that it was the result of massive fraud, manipulation, intimidation and media bias on an unprecedented scale. Worst case scenario is an 1860-s like situation in which broad swaths of the nation refuse to recognize HRC as the legally elected President.

And if they get violent they will be met by force, which will only re-enforce the persecution complex.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:40:01am

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

And if they get violent they will be met by force, which will only re-enforce the persecution complex.

And confirm their notions that the Government is Out to Get You.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:43:47am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that right there would be a worst-case scenario*. Yeesh - that’s so ugly it’s difficult to contemplate.

*The absolute worst-case scenario would be a secession crisis

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:45:47am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

And that right there would be a worst-case scenario*. Yeesh - that’s so ugly it’s difficult to contemplate.

*The absolute worst-case scenario would be a secession crisis

Weird to think, but Trump is making these threats that seem to encourage such fantastical thinking (not that some people need much encouragement).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:46:36am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

And that right there would be a worst-case scenario*. Yeesh - that’s so ugly it’s difficult to contemplate.

*The absolute worst-case scenario would be a secession crisis

There will be calls for secession from idiots who have no idea what that really entails.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:51:54am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sad to say, but there’s a not-insignificant bunch of folks just itching for a rematch of the Civil War. And Trump is indeed encouraging them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:53:50am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

Sad to say, but there’s a not-insignificant bunch of folks just itching for a rematch of the Civil War. And Trump is indeed encouraging them.

That is the scary part. It is a matter of RWNJ faith that liberals cannot win an election fairly, they have to steal it through voter fraud and offering Free Government Stuff to lazy blahs.

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:08:30am

That Kita, who thinks himself a liberal, retweets Cernovich is bad enough. That he regurgitated this particular chunk of crap is doubly ironic though.


Fascism is palingenetic ultranationalism. Palingenesis means rebirth and refers to a phoenix rising from ashes:
libraryofsocialscience.com

The ideal type of fascism presented here boils down to the following thesis: what all permutations of fascism have in common (i.e. the ‘fascist minimum’) is that their ideology, policies and any organisations are informed by a distinctive permutation of the myth that the nation needs to be, or is about to be, resurrected Phoenix-like from the forces of decadence, which, without drastic intervention by the forces of healthy nationalism, threaten to extinguish it for ever. Thus, when in an overtly anti-liberal and anti-socialist spirit Fascists celebrated the creation of a Third Rome, Nazis believed they were founding a New (national and European) Order, Mosley promoted the idea of the Greater Britain or Codreanu looked forward to the appearance of the Rumanian New Man, all were being true to the core mobilising myth of fascism. In their own idiosyncratic way they all invoked elements of ‘traditional’ values, but did so not to create a modern form of ancien regime based on the traditional ruling élites and institutions, but to inaugurate a new era for the nation in which even the common man could form part of the élite charged with the mission to combat national decay.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Through all this there will be one great leader who battles the representatives of the old system with grassroots support.[1][2] They appear as one mass of people who have only one goal: to create their new future.[1][2] They have infinite faith in their mythical hero (it is improbable that this figure is female, because fascism is a largely male movement) as he stands for everything they believe in.[1][2] With him, the country will rise like a phoenix from the ashes of corruption and decadence.[1][2]

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:10:27am

re: #142 Nyet

Wasted almost two hours of my life with that weirdo yesterday. When will I learn?

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:14:12am

Oh, and “maga” means a mark in the slang of the Nigerian scammers. Maga mindset, indeed.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:17:44am

re: #143 teleskiguy

TBQH I was bored and it had been many moons since I’ve gone on a guilt-free Twitter insult marathon. Plus I weeded out some pepe/anime avatars. Win win.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:18:20am

My beloved grandmother would have recommended metamucil for these guys. Might not get ‘em right in the head, but it’ll get ‘em right in the gut.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:21:35am

Hey, it’s economic anxiety. AMIRITE?!?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:31:57am

re: #147 teleskiguy

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Hey, it’s economic anxiety. AMIRITE?!?

They’re yelling for Zeke Hile to come out on stage and play a set. That’s all. ///

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:35:40am

re: #148 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They’re yelling for Zeke Hile to come out on stage and play a set. That’s all. ///

Lower right-hand corner: shaved head, thin suspenders over white shirt…any guesses as to footwear? Birkenstock, perhaps?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:39:01am

re: #149 Barefoot Grin

Lower right-hand corner: shaved head, thin suspenders over white shirt…any guesses as to footwear? Birkenstock, perhaps?

Doc Martens with steel toe caps. And white laces.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:41:04am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Doc Martens with steel toe caps. And white laces.

Doc Martens seem to be very popular with the skinhead set.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:42:18am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Doc Martens with steel toe caps. And white laces.

These guys are so 1978.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:42:40am

re: #151 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Doc Martens seem to be very popular with the skinhead set.

And the color of the laces is of significance…white for Fascist skins, red for leftist skins, yellow indicates you have killed someone.

They also created a brand with the logo LONSDAPLE across it, so that when you wear it with an unbuttoned shirt it reads NSDAP.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:44:37am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the color of the laces is of significance…white for Fascist skins, red for leftist skins, yellow indicates you have killed someone.

They also created a brand with the logo LONSDAPLE across it, so that when you wear it with an unbuttoned shirt it reads NSDAP.

Cheeky monkeys!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:51:52am

re: #154 Barefoot Grin

Cheeky monkeys!

Yes, they are fond of “88”…the eighth letter of the alphabet being H, for HH (Heil Hitler).

They are also fond of the Helly Hansen HH logo.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:53:50am

re: #142 Nyet

Thanks! I’ve been down the rabbit hole the last half hour plus looking up all of Griffins work I could find online. Tried to put it together in a way people could easily digest in one tweet.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 3:57:26am

Regardless of how you feel about David Brooks, in 2003 he wrote:

Why is politics no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently?

Why has it become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, brutal struggle for office in which each side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and only can be capable of behaving despicably?

At the time I read it, I wrote a note to myself:

Why is it “our” job and only our job to point out in a hyper-micro-analytical, out of context, deliberate, manipulative disingenuous spin, cheap shots and obvious falsehoods, ridicule fashion, no matter what they do, that their actions are in fact despicable. - whether by omission, commission, change of direction/heart, or simply a change in what you thought they would do. Why can they do absolutely no right unless they adopt positions that we hold? (even so far as if they do or say nothing about a particular issue or event (as if they have to know about everything that occurs in the world and have a “correct’ reaction))

A few years later I added:

it’s “ideological narcissism” - the belief that no decent, honest, and caring person could possibly come to a different conclusion on public policy issues than ME, who after all is a paragon of virtue, tolerance, caring, and wisdom.

today’s electoral-vote.com alludes to that time before 2003 with trump does what no one else could

There was a time, not terribly long ago, when the nation’s political leaders would vigorously represent their constituents’ interests during the day, and then would share a beer, or play softball or poker, or perform music together at night. Recently, the trend has been toward extreme territorialism and denigrating the other side. It’s probably too much to hope, but if somehow Donald Trump serves to remind partisans on both sides of their shared interests and their ability to come together when they want to, they maybe he will actually have done the country a great service. (Z)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:04:42am

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

Right here is why people need to study history, real history, not the pseudo-history peddled by the likes of David Barton. Trump’s entire campaign reeks of fascist overtones. His followers hear those overtones and they like what they hear. It’s just what they want to hear. Democracy and pluralism are not what they want — or so they think now. The Constitution is only useful for the 2nd A. The rest of it, not so much. In their peabrain minds, they picture an America with Trump as the Fearless Leader dictating who stays and who goes, which countries have to pay up and which ones get nuked, and which laws are passed and which are repealed. Congress and SCOTUS are apparently not in the equation, so I can only assume they believe a Trump presidency would eliminate or weaken the other arms of government to be irrelevant.

The scary thing is, if Trump were elected, that scenario is a distinct possibility.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:11:33am

I just noticed that the UPI/CVOTER poll, the very last to have him ahead on Huffpost Pollster, went from Trump +2 to Clinton +6 in a week.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:20:37am

re: #158 dangerman

wow, trump releases a video that is so aggressive that YouTube has flagged it as dangerous, and suggested that you don’t share it

the above link is to electoral-vote.com not directly to the video

The video is fear mongering, Hillary bashing, and ends with saying Trump is the “only one” who will protect us. OMFG. So he’s now inculcating a cult of personality: only Trump can pull America out of the horrible situation it is in. No one else can do. Grr!!

Reeks of the Kim Cult in North Korea, the Mao cult that has mostly been extinguished in China, and the Putin cult that is still developing in Russia.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:22:57am

Don’t know how things are in your neck of the woods, but here in the Wuling Range autumn has arrived almost overnight and I may need to turn on the heater. Might dip into the 50s tonight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:25:13am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Don’t know how things are in your neck of the woods, but here in the Wuling Range autumn has arrived almost overnight and I may need to turn on the heater. Might dip into the 50s tonight.

Autumn here on the Rhine, also down into the 40’s at night. Grape harvest underway, village is overrun with Romanians. Used to be Poles, but they have gotten too expensive of late.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:26:50am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Don’t know how things are in your neck of the woods, but here in the Wuling Range autumn has arrived almost overnight and I may need to turn on the heater. Might dip into the 50s tonight.

It’s been in the high 30s low 40s here such that the wife clings like a koala to eucalyptus at night. That might sound like a good thing, but she has claws, sharp teeth…and a handy tummy pouch….

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:30:02am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Autumn here on the Rhine, also down into the 40’s at night. Grape harvest underway, village is overrun with Romanians. Used to be Poles, but they have gotten too expensive of late.

So, there goes the proceeds from the Pole tax, eh?

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:31:06am

Of course the hypocrite fired someone from his show for Locker Room talk.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:31:27am

re: #165 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, there goes the proceeds from the Pole tax, eh?

The really high grapes, can’t touch em with a 10-foot Pole….

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:33:10am

Reading some recent reviews at IMDB for recent releases (both tv and large screen), I’m noticing more armchair warriors whining about “political correctness” and “SJW”.

This is more than just about a candidate, Drumpfskind, but about a reactionary movement in contemporary America. The past dies hard, and some of the most deeply rooted biases are being exposed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:33:33am

re: #167 Barefoot Grin

The really high grapes, can’t touch em with a 10-foot Pole….

That would apply more to the Bavarian hop harvest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:34:15am

re: #168 freetoken

Reading some recent comments at IMDB for recent releases (both tv and large screen), I’m noticing more armchair warriors whining about “political correctness” and “SJW”.

This is more than just about a candidate, Drumpfskind, but about a reactionary movement in contemporary America. The past dies hard, and some of the most deeply rooted biases are being exposed.

It bubbled to the surface with Obama’s election and DT recognized its market potential.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:36:01am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s really coming on strong this past year, though. Some recent shows’ user-reviews at IMDB seem quite infected with white-grievance, or alpha-male-grievance theatre.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:45:34am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That would apply more to the Bavarian hop harvest.

I can understand that. There’s a local microbrewer growing his own hops, so I’ve seen the high structures used.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:45:46am

re: #171 freetoken

It’s really coming on strong this past year, though. Some recent shows user-reviews at IMDB seem quite infected with white-grievance, or alpha-male-grievance theatre.

Because it has been so mainstreamed over the past years that what were once vices have now become habits.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:59:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:02:32am

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

GOP senator who unendorsed Trump 3 days ago jumps back on the train

Wow, this is turning into a full-on clusterf*ck worthy of any undertaking connected with the Trump brand.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:03:45am

Shrub had his uninvited neck rub and tRump has his pussy grab. What is it with rich white dudes and not respecting female personal space?

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:05:00am

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

Rural Nebraska (well, almost all of Nebraska is rural) is among the Drumpfiest of Drumpfksind supporters. She is just playing to her base base.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:12:14am

re: #176 Eventual Carrion

Shrub had his uninvited neck rub and tRump has his pussy grab. What is it with rich white dudes and not respecting female personal space?

At least a neck rub could be interpreted as a friendly gesture and did not constitute sexual assault. But we are dealing with privileged guys who are used to having their way and imposing themselves on others.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:25:11am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

Weird to think, but Trump is making these threats that seem to encourage such fantastical thinking (not that some people need much encouragement).

My police department can not be relied upon in such a scenario.

“I’d like to introduce you to John, our Chief of Police, here. And this is his son Nathan Bedford.”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:36:45am

The LA Times/USC tracking poll, The One True Poll, has HRC and Trump tied for the first time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:47:03am

re: #180 Decatur Deb

The LA Times/USC tracking poll, The One True Poll, has HRC and Trump tied for the first time.

where?

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jeffreyw  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:48:00am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:48:24am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

where?

National (tracking). It’s a weird poll, not inherently bad, but misused in the RCP aggregate.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:51:01am

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

Really, that’s the ideal mindset for Trump. You like me? I like you! I love you!

What, you said something critical? You don’t like me? I hate you!

Oh, something nice? I love you!

Squirrel!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:01:28am

538’s Now-cast has Trump’s chances down to 9.2% this morning….

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:02:36am

re: #185 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

538’s Now-cast has Trump’s chances down to 9.8% this morning….

Can he make it down to just the 3%’ers?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:04:07am

re: #185 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

538’s Now-cast has Trump’s chances down to 9.2% this morning….

Only one chance in ten of wrecking the country. That’s a relief.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:04:08am

re: #186 Eventual Carrion

Can he make it down to just the 3%’ers?

That was a brainfart—it’s 9.2%. I think in the real world he already is.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:06:14am

re: #187 Decatur Deb

Only one chance in ten of wrecking the country. That’s a relief.

Well, it’s better than 48% on Sept. 20….

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:07:21am

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, it’s better than 48% on Sept. 20….

Finish him.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:09:23am

re: #185 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

538’s Now-cast has Trump’s chances down to 9.2% this morning….

In the next debate I want her to rip his face off.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:10:14am

re: #191 Sir John Barron

In the next debate I want her to rip his face off.

It’s a Trump-friendly venue and format.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:10:16am

re: #191 Sir John Barron

In the next debate I want her to rip his face off.

Maybe he’ll rip his face off and release the swarm….

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:10:33am

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

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Behold such conservative “principle”.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:10:50am

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

It’s been in the high 30s low 40s here such that the wife clings like a koala to eucalyptus at night. That might sound like a good thing, but she has claws, sharp teeth…and a handy tummy pouch….

90 yesterday
75-80 at night
(sorry)

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:12:18am

re: #168 freetoken

Reading some recent reviews at IMDB for recent releases (both tv and large screen), I’m noticing more armchair warriors whining about “political correctness” and “SJW”.

This is more than just about a candidate, Drumpfskind, but about a reactionary movement in contemporary America. The past dies hard, and some of the most deeply rooted biases are being exposed.

Yes. He’s become a token for them. That’s why, among other reasons, he must be wiped out.

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Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:12:59am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

It’s a Trump-friendly venue and format.

That seems to be what Hillary has been facing for a long time now with the MSM, and she has done pretty well against it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:14:53am

re: #195 dangerman

90 yesterday
75-80 at night
(sorry)

Well, I intend to retire to a warm all-year-round place.

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Jayleia  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:15:00am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Having seen the results of both debates, there IS no Trump-friendly venue or format. I’ve come to the conclusion that the only reason that Hair Furor got through the nomination is because the other candidates sucked even more.

I mean, we have ragged on Cruz for apparently not even having an intern google Trump for oppo research. And he was the “big threat” to Trump. Trump isn’t facing a YouTube comment section anymore, and it shows.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:16:03am

re: #168 freetoken

Reading some recent comments at IMDB for recent releases (both tv and large screen), I’m noticing more armchair warriors whining about “political correctness” and “SJW”.

This is more than just about a candidate, Drumpfskind, but about a reactionary movement in contemporary America. The past dies hard, and some of the most deeply rooted biases are being exposed.

every time i see “SJW” i have to think it through
in the old days of newspaper personals, it meant “single jewish white….”

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:16:52am

re: #185 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

538’s Now-cast has Trump’s chances down to 9.2% this morning….

Big thing for me is she’s over 82% in the Polls-plus forecast and has retaken not only OH but IA. She’s retaken every state that Obama won in 2012 and is now working towards matching or beating his 2008 victory margin. It’s no wonder the GOP is in total meltdown.

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Great White Snark  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:17:43am

re: #11 FormerDirtDart

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:18:54am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

It’s a Trump-friendly venue and format.

The last debate, with the audience cheering “Lock her up” wasn’t a Trump-friendly venue?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:19:14am

re: #168 freetoken

Reading some recent reviews at IMDB for recent releases (both tv and large screen), I’m noticing more armchair warriors whining about “political correctness” and “SJW”.

This is more than just about a candidate, Drumpfskind, but about a reactionary movement in contemporary America. The past dies hard, and some of the most deeply rooted biases are being exposed.

In past campaigns there was at least a pretense that the reactionary movement was concerned about faith and morals. With Trump, that’s all gone in the Dumpster. It’s been “unshackled” as the GOP nominee would say.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:19:51am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it has been so mainstreamed over the past years that what were once vices have now become habits.

now i’ll be playing it today

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:21:51am

re: #161 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The video is fear mongering, Hillary bashing, and ends with saying Trump is the “only one” who will protect us. OMFG. So he’s now inculcating a cult of personality: only Trump can pull America out of the horrible situation it is in. No one else can do. Grr!!

Reeks of the Kim Cult in North Korea, the Mao cult that has mostly been extinguished in China, and the Putin cult that is still developing in Russia.

It’s almost like his campaign is being run by Breitbart.

/

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:22:17am

re: #184 LastYearsMan

Really, that’s the ideal mindset for Trump. You like me? I like you! I love you!

What, you said something critical? You don’t like me? I hate you!

Oh, something nice? I love you!

Squirrel!

schizo
(with appropriate apologies)

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:24:18am

re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, I intend to retire to a warm all-year-round place.

a plan i recommend and endorse

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:26:51am

re: #114 teleskiguy

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I’m surprised there are 22 people, let alone 22%, who know who McMullin is.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:28:00am

re: #201 Targetpractice

Big thing for me is she’s over 82% in the Polls-plus forecast and has retaken not only OH but IA. She’s retaken every state that Obama won in 2012 and is now working towards matching or beating his 2008 victory margin. It’s no wonder the GOP is in total meltdown.

first we get beaten by a __________ (we shoulda beat him easy)
now we’re being eviscerated by a __________ (how are we losing?)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:28:48am

re: #208 dangerman

a plan i recommend and endorse

Living in south-central China, where they do not have central heating or well insulated buildings has put me off cold weather. At the same time, I’ve grown accustomed to hot weather, and now I’d be pretty happy living where the temps never dip below 50 degrees.
Of course with global warming, that might be many places.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:31:26am

re: #209 Sir John Barron

I’m surprised there are 22 people, let alone 22%, who know who McMullin is.

this guy?

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Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:33:17am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:33:36am

re: #118 Kragar

OK, I’ve seen this meme now several times, and it’s good-can someone tell me where this is from so I can understand it in context?

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Great White Snark  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:34:32am

An LAPD “employee” said to perhaps be a Lieutenant ranked detective (anon sources at LAPD) has been shot to death in a home in Whittier. News sleuths have uncovered connections to some big cases making case related murder a very real possibility.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:39:09am

So, in non-Trump related news, with a Czech twist, there’s this:

Researchers at the Czech national film archives have found a film by early cinema pioneer Georges Méliès that was thought to have been lost forever.

The two-minute silent film Match de Prestidigitation (“conjuring contest”) from 1904 was found on a reel given to the archives by an anonymous donor, labelled as another film.

theguardian.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:39:24am

re: #213 Tigger2

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She gave them numerous opportunities for a clean break from Trump, between her “alt-Right” speech and her “deplorables” remark, and they attacked her for having the nerve to suggest that their party is not uniformly perfect in every way. If they wish to insist that Trump’s supporters are indicative of the entire party, then she’s happy to oblige.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:39:38am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

Weird to think, but Trump is making these threats that seem to encourage such fantastical thinking (not that some people need much encouragement).

Which plays into the idea that he’s in league with Putin in the goal of weakening this country.

Every day, I’m more convinced that Trump and his staff are in active collusion with the Kremlin. And I doubt that it will happen, but in a just world we’d see the lot of them put on trial for treason. They’re clearly putting their business interests ahead of the country’s best interests.

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Jayleia  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:43:43am

re: #218 makeitstop

Every day, I’m more convinced that Trump and his staff are in active collusion with the Kremlin. And I doubt that it will happen, but in a just world we’d see the lot of them put on trial for treason. They’re clearly putting their business interests ahead of the country’s best interests.

SOMEONE is in collusion with the Kremlin, however, I am quite certain that it’s not Trump.

He’s too stupid to not give the game away, unless he didn’t know he was part of the game. So it has to be someone who’s consistently been in his circle, and is capable of that level of manipulation.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:43:50am

re: #10 bratwurst

From the “Better Late Than Never” file:

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After two hours of interviews the psychologist writes: Untreatable. Keep away from firearms and sharp objects.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:44:10am

re: #102 Tigger2

I take it he’s not voting for Hillary /. :)

Pure GOP ticket, top to bottom, like always.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:44:52am

re: #219 Jayleia

SOMEONE is in collusion with the Kremlin, however, I am quite certain that it’s not Trump.

He’s too stupid to not give the game away, unless he didn’t know he was part of the game. So it has to be someone who’s consistently been in his circle, and is capable of that level of manipulation.

Yeah, if it was Trump, he’d be boasting about it at his campaign rallies.

Really. That’s how shockingly stupid he is.

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Jayleia  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:45:04am

re: #220 Romantic Heretic

After two hours of interviews the psychologist writes: Untreatable. Keep away from firearms and sharp objects.

And yarn, and play doh and…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:45:17am

re: #218 makeitstop

Which plays into the idea that he’s in league with Putin in the goal of weakening this country.

Every day, I’m more convinced that Trump and his staff are in active collusion with the Kremlin. And I doubt that it will happen, but in a just world we’d see the lot of them put on trial for treason. They’re clearly putting their business interests ahead of the country’s best interests.

The Iran-Contra affair was a clear case of treason by an actual President and Vice-President. How’d that turn out?

The treason law has been a dead letter almost from the get-go, anyway—if they couldn’t convict Aaron Fucking Burr….

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:46:06am

re: #203 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The last debate, with the audience cheering “Lock her up” wasn’t a Trump-friendly venue?

Las Vegas is his company town, it’s a less rigid format, and Chris Wallace for moderator.
Don’t expect a breakout.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:46:44am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

Las Vegas is his company town, it’s a less rigid format, and Chris Wallace for moderator.
Don’t expect a breakout.

what is the format? Same as 1st debate or something else?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:47:06am

re: #214 Eric The Fruit Bat

OK, I’ve seen this meme now several times, and it’s good-can someone tell me where this is from so I can understand it in context?

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Now Comes the Part Where We Throw Our Heads Back and Laugh!

EDIT: Forget to mention it’s from George of the Jungle.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:48:09am

re: #213 Tigger2

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yeah - a pretty good analysis

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:49:22am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

what is the format? Same as 1st debate or something else?

Pretty much the same. Don’t know about chairs (the sitting kind or the humping kind.)

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:50:08am

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

DF is still out there trying to convince himself his party’s base isn’t racist.

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This really is all that “serious” Republicans have left, at least those who haven’t abandoned ship by now. Lie to themselves that Trump’s candidacy is some disagreement in the party over principles and ideals, the leadership vs the base, rather than the reality that he’s the worst aspects of the party taken form. In other words, its an existential crisis, because the moment you acknowledge that your party’s base is built upon racism and hate, you come to the recognition that it’s days as a major political party are numbered.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:50:09am
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:51:12am

re: #176 Eventual Carrion

Shrub had his uninvited neck rub and tRump has his pussy grab. What is it with rich white dudes and not respecting female personal space?

Because they are raised from infancy to regard others as belonging in one of two categories: property and enemies.

Women tend to fall into the former category.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:52:09am

re: #232 Romantic Heretic

Because they are raised from infancy to regard others as belonging in one of two categories: property and enemies.

Women tend to fall into the former category.

Unless it’s Hillary…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:52:21am

re: #229 Decatur Deb

Pretty much the same. Don’t know about chairs (the sitting kind or the humping kind.)

Since Trump was upset that Hillary didn’t stay on “her side” of the stage, I recommend a wall be erected between them, with razor wire at the top to be on the safe side.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:52:45am

re: #213 Tigger2

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The problem for them is that just as they’ve decided they want as little to do with Trump as possible, Clinton and her allies have decided to pull up the ladder and leave them stranded.

The GOP has made its bed this year, has been making its bed for decades, as even some conservative radio hosts have realized. They’ve created and fed a monster.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:55:24am

re: #228 dangerman

yeah - a pretty good analysis

Hillary gave them a chance, for a while.

The unambiguous message is that Clinton’s offer not to treat Trump as a totem of the Republican Party has expired.

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Jayleia  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:55:26am

re: #228 dangerman

She kept throwing them lifelines…now…she’s out of fucks to give, and she’s taking Carville’s advice, and throwing one of these:

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:55:37am

re: #234 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Since Trump was upset that Hillary didn’t stay on “her side” of the stage, I recommend a wall be erected between them, with razor wire at the top to be on the safe side.

Trump will pay for it. He doesn’t know that yet, but he will.

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Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:55:49am

I just don’t have anything to add to this.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:59:05am

re: #239 Tigger2

I just don’t know what to say.

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The GOP Civil War is gonna get ugly after Nov 8th. The party leadership will blame the base for losing Congress, the base will blame the leadership for losing the White House, and Democrats will sit by watching and munching on popcorn. In the best case scenario where the GOP loses the House, you might actually see some “moderate” Republicans deciding its deciding its finally time to end the obstructionism.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:02:41am

re: #230 Targetpractice

This really is all that “serious” Republicans have left, at least those who haven’t abandoned ship by now. Lie to themselves that Trump’s candidacy is some disagreement in the party over principles and ideals, the leadership vs the base, rather than the reality that he’s the worst aspects of the party taken form. In other words, its an existential crisis, because the moment you acknowledge that your party’s base is built upon racism and hate, you come to the recognition that it’s days as a major political party are numbered.

any argument other than total repudiation is simply confirming that he is in fact a pig - theres not enough bold, italic, large, underline, color tags to make this any clearer

so that will no longer work, imo because you cant use a pig as the framer and bringer of that argument and until recently, that’s not really what trumps been doing anyway

there is no getting past this:
trump is an unequivocal pig
if you support a pig you are a pig

if you use *any* logic that excuses, acknowledges but dismisses, explains, argues, uses false equivalency, logic or “rational” analysis that “soberly” leads to support for him, you are just a pig explaining that there are lots of other pigs in the world

saying there are other pigs doesnt make him not a pig
nor does it make his being a pig ok

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:04:57am

re: #240 Targetpractice

It’s not just going to be a GOP civil war. Trump is becoming more unhinged by the day and will not be satisfied until the system that rejected him is a smoldering pile of ashes. His campaign CEO Bannon couldn’t agree more.

It’s been ugly so far, but the next three weeks of Trump are going to eclipse everything that has come before.

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Jayleia  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:05:40am

re: #240 Targetpractice

But WE’RE the ones who are supposed to do the quadrennial Circular Firing Squad Olympics!

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:05:49am

re: #240 Targetpractice

The GOP Civil War is gonna get ugly after Nov 8th. The party leadership will blame the base for losing Congress, the base will blame the leadership for losing the White House, and Democrats will sit by watching and munching on popcorn. In the best case scenario where the GOP loses the House, you might actually see some “moderate” Republicans deciding its deciding its finally time to end the obstructionism.

see my 157

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:05:49am

re: #239 Tigger2

I just don’t have anything to add to this.

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That’s nice, Kellyanne. The rubes will eat you next.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:06:28am

re: #242 Skip Intro

It’s not just going to be a GOP civil war. Trump is becoming more unhinged by the day and will not be satisfied until the system that rejected him is a smoldering pile of ashes. His campaign CEO Bannon couldn’t agree more.

It’s been ugly so far, but the next three weeks of Trump are going to eclipse everything that has come before.

Trump has become a political suicide bomber.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:11:06am

re: #242 Skip Intro

It’s not just going to be a GOP civil war. Trump is becoming more unhinged by the day and will not be satisfied until the system that rejected him is a smoldering pile of ashes. His campaign CEO Bannon couldn’t agree more.

It’s been ugly so far, but the next three weeks of Trump are going to eclipse everything that has come before.

Ayep, the Civil War is slowly metamorphosing into a general war over the state of American conservatism. A battle over how it will be defined for the next generation. Trump has managed to do what McCain and Romney completely failed to do: He’s managed to strip all the talk about “principles” and “ideals” away to show the dry rot of racism and bigotry at the core of modern American conservatism.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:12:23am

re: #187 Decatur Deb

Only one chance in ten of wrecking the country. That’s a relief.

Sportsball Analogy:

The Boston Red Sox were down 3 games to 0 in a best of 7 against the New York Yankees in the 2004 ALCS. In Game 3 they lost 19-8!

They came back to win in 7 games to advance to the World Series.

Those odds are longer than the possibility of a Trump victory.

I will not feel easy about this until She is President-Elect Clinton.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:15:18am

re: #240 Targetpractice

In the best case scenario where the GOP loses the House, you might actually see some “moderate” Republicans deciding its deciding its finally time to end the obstructionism.

Is the Hastert Rule still in effect?

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Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:16:33am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:17:27am

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks, Wheat!

FYI: ISTR that in one of the original George Of The Jungle animation series the Doctor was throwing darts at a dartboard that had the word “Medicare” on it. Maybe my mind is losing it, maybe it was some other subterfuge from somewhere…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:19:36am

After Hillary’s lopsided win, when the huge freakout about how WE WUZ ROBED!!11!! gets underway, I think it’s going to be a huge wakeup call for the general public. Hard as it is for us political junkies to believe, there are an enormous number of people who haven’t been paying close attention to the buildup. When the Trumporrhoids go off their chump after Nov. 8, there’s going to be a general reaction of “What the Fuck is this shit?”

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Nojay UK  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:23:03am

re: #240 Targetpractice

The GOP Civil War is gonna get ugly after Nov 8th.

Someone I know on a private email bounce is investigating the purchase and delivery options on lube for his post-election entertainment. Apparently he can get silicone-based industrial grade lube delivered on a four-barrel pallet free of charge but we warned him that it’s hell to get out of upholstery and he should go for the water-based stuff instead.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:23:33am

OK

I just made my first contribution to a D candidate for President in my life. Feels good.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:23:54am

Just remember people…

BREXIT

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:24:51am

re: #248 Franklin

Sportsball Analogy:

The Boston Red Sox were down 3 games to 0 in a best of 7 against the New York Yankees in the 2004 ALCS. In Game 3 they lost 19-8!

They came back to win in 7 games to advance to the World Series.

Those odds are longer than the possibility of a Trump victory.

I will not feel easy about this until She is President-Elect Clinton.

Heh. The defining sportsball moment in my life was the 1960 World Series. Mazeroski has ruined my perspective for ever.

The Greatest Homerun Ever: Bill Mazeroski 1960 Walkoff Homerun (2)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:25:06am

re: #255 Eric The Fruit Bat

Just remember people…

BREXIT

And regardless of what a mess DT’s campaign is in, he has the advantage that chaos and misinformation favor him, and those are two things that are all too easy to perpetuate and spread, especially regarding HRC.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:25:14am

re: #255 Eric The Fruit Bat

Just remember people…

BREXIT

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:26:10am

re: #255 Eric The Fruit Bat

Just remember people…

BREXIT

Why do people keep saying that? All the polls said “Leave” was going to win, it’s just that everybody chose not to believe them. This is the opposite of that.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:26:38am

re: my sportstball analogy above. If you want to watch a great ESPN production, check out Four Days in October which recaps the 2004 ALCS. It helps to be a Red Sox fan (definitely not a Yankees fan) to enjoy it. It’s hard for me to determine if it truly is a great story, or if my emotions of living through it take over.

Four Days in October 30 For 30

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:27:41am

re: #255 Eric The Fruit Bat

Just remember people…

BREXIT

I’m going to continue to argue, as I have for months, that confidence is not complacency. I don’t take this election as a done deal just yet, but I do think the odds are so stacked against Trump that it will take some form of miracle at this point to save his ass.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:28:26am

re: #260 Franklin

re: my sportstball analogy above. If you want to watch a great ESPN production, check out Four Days in October which recaps the 2004 ALCS. It helps to be a Red Sox fan (definitely not a Yankees fan) to enjoy it. It’s hard for me to determine if it truly is a great story, or if my emotions of living through it take over.

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It was funny when they had to change the ending of Fever Pitch at the last minute.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:29:16am

re: #261 Targetpractice

I’m going to continue to argue, as I have for months, that confidence is not complacency. I don’t take this election as a done deal just yet, but I do think the odds are so stacked against Trump that it will take some form of miracle at this point to save his ass.

He does not need miracles: real events, such as a major terrorist attack, especially if the perpetrator is an immigrant, especially an illegal one, and DT could bounce right back.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:30:32am

re: #243 Jayleia

But WE’RE the ones who are supposed to do the quadrennial Circular Firing Squad Olympics!

don’t worry, on Nov 9 Morning Joke and Andrea Mitchell and all the rest will tell us how difficult it will be for Hillary to govern and nobody likes her and Dems in disarray, etc.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:31:22am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not a miracle: real events, such as a major terrorist attack, especially if the perpetrator is an immigrant, especially an illegal one, and DT could bounce right back.

And we know they will try. OTOH, outside forces like weather and economic flash crashes are moving out of the window of effect.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:31:43am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

don’t worry, on Nov 9 Morning Joke and Andrea Mitchell and all the rest will tell us how difficult it will be for Hillary to govern and nobody likes her and Dems in disarray, etc.

and that impeachment proceedings will commence before she even takes office…

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:31:47am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He does not need miracles: real events, such as a major terrorist attack, especially if the perpetrator is an immigrant, especially an illegal one, and DT could bounce right back.

We’d need more than simply a major attack. At this point we’d need a 9/11 attack that could be conclusively traced back to a Syrian refugee who came over in the last few months to begin to budge the numbers. We’ve had three bad terrorist attacks in the US since last June and none of them have moved Trump 5-6% in the polls, which is what he needs now to have a chance.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:32:00am

re: #260 Franklin

re: my sportstball analogy above. If you want to watch a great ESPN production, check out Four Days in October which recaps the 2004 ALCS. It helps to be a Red Sox fan (definitely not a Yankees fan) to enjoy it. It’s hard for me to determine if it truly is a great story, or if my emotions of living through it take over.

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I had a college friend who was at Game 4. Crazy series that was. I’m far from a Red Sox fan (Orioles) but as a lifelong Yankee hater, I thoroughly enjoyed the 2004 ALCS.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:32:08am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:32:12am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not a miracle: real events, such as a major terrorist attack, especially if the perpetrator is an immigrant, especially an illegal one, and DT could bounce right back.

More likely he’ll incite his followers to force their way into an overcapacity venue, defying the Fire Marshal, and he and 10,000 of them will get burned up….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:32:58am

re: #267 Targetpractice

We’d need more than simply a major attack. At this point we’d need a 9/11 attack that could be conclusively traced back to a Syrian refugee who came over in the last few months to begin to budge the numbers. We’ve had three bad terrorist attacks in the US since last June and none of them have moved Trump 5-6% in the polls, which is what he needs now to have a chance.

Nonetheless, chaos and misinformation still favor his cause, and given the nature of the US media and the level of political discourse here, that is a bit disquieting.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:33:33am

re: #269 FormerDirtDart

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What a fucking creep.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:33:48am

re: #251 Eric The Fruit Bat

Thanks, Wheat!

FYI: ISTR that in one of the original George Of The Jungle animation series the Doctor was throwing darts at a dartboard that had the word “Medicare” on it. Maybe my mind is losing it, maybe it was some other subterfuge from somewhere…

Just before the laughing scene, the annoying British dude trips on a root and faceplants into a big pile of elephant dung. The middle guy says: “Bad guy falls in poop, classic element of physical comedy, now comes the part where we throw our heads back and laugh, ready?”

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:33:58am

re: #224 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Iran-Contra affair was a clear case of treason by an actual President and Vice-President. How’d that turn out?

The treason law has been a dead letter almost from the get-go, anyway—if they couldn’t convict Aaron Fucking Burr….

Yeah, I agree. Also, I think Hillary will take the same road as Obama took concerning taking any legal action against Bush-Cheney - just leaving it be in the interest of moving forward.

No doubt there will be those who will be angered by inaction on going after Trump. But that’s the difference between a sane party and an insane one - Clinton would shine it on to avoid tearing the country apart, while Trump would appoint a special prosecutor in the name of revenge.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:34:33am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that impeachment proceedings will commence before she even takes office…

and 400 ev’s isnt really all that

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:36:07am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nonetheless, chaos and misinformation still favor his cause, and given the nature of the US media and the level of political discourse here, that is a bit disquieting.

You’re taking my remarks that the election is stacked against Trump as me saying its a done deal, even though I prefaced said remark with saying that it wasn’t. Is there a possibility that something could happen in the next three weeks that saves Trump’s candidacy? Sure. But the closer we get, the greater the disturbance would have to be. An email “leak” last week didn’t budge the needle because there wasn’t much of anything to it. But a “leak” that showed definitive proof that Hillary’s server had been hacked and classified info viewed by foreign governments? That could be enough to send her numbers into free-fall.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:38:06am

re: #259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why do people keep saying that? All the polls said “Leave” was going to win, it’s just that everybody chose not to believe them. This is the opposite of that.

I was telling my students here that the leave side was going to win - not only was “Leave” ahead in the polls in the days before the vote, but momentum was on their side.

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danarchy  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:38:47am

re: #240 Targetpractice

The GOP Civil War is gonna get ugly after Nov 8th. The party leadership will blame the base for losing Congress, the base will blame the leadership for losing the White House, and Democrats will sit by watching and munching on popcorn. In the best case scenario where the GOP loses the House, you might actually see some “moderate” Republicans deciding its deciding its finally time to end the obstructionism.

Not sure there is a plausible scenario where the republicans lose the house. Even after everything that has happened this campaign cycle they are still even money to retain the senate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:39:25am

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

I was telling my students here that the leave side was going to win - not only was “Leave” ahead in the polls in the days before the vote, but momentum was on their side.

I think the perception that the polls were wrong about Brexit comes from the fact that stay had a lead for a time when the polls were coming in.

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Teukka  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:39:27am

re: #269 FormerDirtDart

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Sexually predatory behavior.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:40:02am

Trump Disinformation Operation…
His people are learning well from their Russian masters…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:40:56am

re: #277 Targetpractice

But a “leak” that showed definitive proof that Hillary’s server had been hacked and classified info viewed by foreign governments? That could be enough to send her numbers into free-fall.

I am just saying again that chaos and misinformation are on DT’s side, and that is scary…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:41:29am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

don’t worry, on Nov 9 Morning Joke and Andrea Mitchell and all the rest will tell us how difficult it will be for Hillary to govern and nobody likes her and Dems in disarray, etc.

Let’s all remember here that Trump’s RICO trial begins on November 28th in California (that explains his earlier slip telling his supporters that Election Day was 11/28); if, when all is said and done, he’s found guilty, Trump’s in deep shit. Not only possible personal bankruptcy, but also serious federal felonies.

And I can guarantee you his supporters are going to scream bloody murder if that happens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:42:52am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

Let’s all remember here that Trump’s RICO trial begins on November 28th in California (that explains his earlier slip telling his supporters that Election Day was 11/28); if, when all is said and done, he’s found guilty, Trump’s in deep shit. Not only possible personal bankruptcy, but also serious federal felonies.

And I can guarantee you his supporters are going to scream bloody murder if that happens.

They will insist that Hillary was the one who ordered him locked up for daring to threaten her…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:42:56am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Trump Disinformation Operation…
His people are learning well from their Russian masters…

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And of course his idiotic supporters will fall for it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:43:02am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Trump Disinformation Operation…
His people are learning well from their Russian masters…

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But Trump assured us he was going to win New York and California….

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:43:10am

re: #283 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am just saying again that chaos and misinformation are on DT’s side, and that is scary…

But is it enough to win an election? I seriously doubt it. To narrow the final lead and the EV count, sure. But there is not enough chaos and misinformation right now to overcome what’s already baked into the poll numbers. You’d need an event that radically altered the narrative, something so devastating to Hillary that Trump’s negatives were not enough to put voters off voting for him.

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danarchy  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:43:14am

re: #259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why do people keep saying that? All the polls said “Leave” was going to win, it’s just that everybody chose not to believe them. This is the opposite of that.

Ok I just went and looked 4 of the 6 polls on the eve of the referendum had remain ahead:

Remain % Leave % Undecided % Date Pollster Sample
55 45 0 Jun 22, 2016 Populus 4,700
48 42 11 Jun 22, 2016 ComRes 1,032
41 43 11 Jun 22, 2016 TNS 2,320
44 45 11 Jun 22, 2016 Opinium 3,000
51 49 0 Jun 22, 2016 YouGov 3,766
52 48 0 Jun 22, 2016 Ipsos MORI -

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:43:20am

Trumpster

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:43:20am

re: #287 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

But Trump assured us he was going to win New York and California….

ACORN!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:43:57am

Winning is not enough. To validate ourselves as a functioning rational democracy we have to execute the “Crush—Drive—Lamentation of His Women” mode.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:44:15am

re: #281 Teukka

Sexually predatory behavior.

Yes it is.
I found it odd that no one in media had been saying much about Stern’s audio on Trump walking in on naked women. It’s practically been out as long as his sexual assault tape.
Now, with people bringing up Miss TEEN USA contestants being perved on, someone might start bringing it up nationally in prime time.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:44:53am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will insist that Hillary was the one who ordered him locked up for daring to threaten her…

Oh, I can close my eyes and hear that shit already.

TRUMP WAS ONLY JOKING WHEN HE SAID HE’D HAVE HILLARY LOCKED UP BUT SHE ACTUALLY DID IT TO HIM!!! WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:46:12am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

Oh, I can close my eyes and hear that shit already.

TRUMP WAS ONLY JOKING WHEN HE SAID HE’D HAVE HILLARY LOCKED UP BUT SHE ACTUALLY DID IT TO HIM!!! WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!

His lawyers are going to be making the argument for the next 4-8 years: “This case against my client is purely political, brought by a government intent on jailing him for daring to run against President Clinton.”

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electrotek  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:47:35am

So I met Richard (Ziggy_TARDIS ) last night and we hung out at a halal burger place for a bit. It was nice meeting you Richard and nice to put a face to someone off LGF. In fact, I think this is the first time I’ve met someone off here in person since signing up back in 2010.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:48:45am

How well would this strategy work for Sec. Clinton at the final debate:

Comment in the first few minutes of the debate that she will not be responding to Donald’s outlandish claims so that she can focus on the questions to give the American people answers to how she plans to govern.

Or does she have to go toe-to-toe with him?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:49:43am

re: #297 Franklin

How well would this strategy work for Sec. Clinton at the final debate:

Comment in the first few minutes of the debate that she will not be responding to Donald’s outlandish claims so that she can focus on the questions to give the American people answers to how she plans to govern.

Or does she have to go toe-to-toe with him?

Not sure. The last debate is the one Wallace of Fox is moderating. Now to Chris’s credit, he’s one of the better people on Fox but that’s not saying much.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:50:22am

re: #295 Targetpractice

His lawyers are going to be making the argument for the next 4-8 years: “This case against my client is purely political, brought by a government intent on jailing him for daring to run against President Clinton.”

It’s critical that Trump never go to jail, even if he truly deserves it. He must live out his life as comfortably as his rumored wealth allows. (Preferably in some distant luxury resort.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:50:58am

re: #297 Franklin

How well would this strategy work for Sec. Clinton at the final debate:

Comment in the first few minutes of the debate that she will not be responding to Donald’s outlandish claims so that she can focus on the questions to give the American people answers to how she plans to govern.

Or does she have to go toe-to-toe with him?

The questions will all be of the form: “Why does everybody hate you so much?” She needs to take a leaf from Trump’s book and talk about what she wants to talk about regardless.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:52:00am

re: #299 Decatur Deb

It’s critical that Trump never go to jail. Even if he truly deserves it, he must live out his life as comfortably as his rumored wealth allows. (Preferably in some distant luxury resort.)

Well if he’s actually committed crimes, I have no problem with that. That said, I don’t want but equally I don’t expect Clinton to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate him if she wins.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:52:00am

re: #295 Targetpractice

His lawyers are going to be making the argument for the next 4-8 years: “This case against my client is purely political, brought by a government intent on jailing him for daring to run against President Clinton.”

LOLOL if there’s any justice in this universe, Trump can watch Hillary Clinton’s inauguration from his prison cell.

Most likely, he’d go to a low/minimum security prison, I would imagine; something like Terminal Island in California.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:54:03am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL if there’s any justice in this universe, Trump can watch Hillary Clinton’s inauguration from his prison cell.

Most likely, he’d go to a low/minimum security prison, I would imagine; something like Terminal Island in California.

He’ll get sent to Club Fed while his kids take over the business.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:54:06am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

He will travel to a 3rd world country and announce a plan to build a big and beautiful resort that will bring in millions of dollars for the local population. ///

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:54:17am

Now honestly I think the best punishment for Trump will be losing to a woman and seeing his brand go to shit. My aunt actually works at a Trump hotel. It’s unfortunate for her since he actually doesn’t own it but his name is on it so people understandably assume he does. I think what he will do when he loses is try to become a Rupert Murdoch type and make Steve Bannon his Roger Ailes. He’s not going to fade away unfortunately.

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electrotek  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:54:54am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Now honestly I think the best punishment for Trump will be losing to a woman and seeing his brand go to shit. My aunt actually works at a Trump hotel. It’s unfortunate for her since he actually doesn’t own it but his name is on it so people understandably assume he does. I think what he will do when he loses is try to become a Rupert Murdoch type and make Steve Bannon his Roger Ailes. He’s not going to fade away unfortunately.

It sucks to have anything related to Trump on your resume nowadays.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:55:12am

re: #303 Targetpractice

He’ll get sent to Club Fed while his kids take over the business.

I forget is it Donald or Eric Jr that is seriously talking about running for mayor of New York?

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:55:13am

re: #279 danarchy

Not sure there is a plausible scenario where the republicans lose the house. Even after everything that has happened this campaign cycle they are still even money to retain the senate.

and they’ll proudly explain to us what it means

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:55:14am

re: #304 PhillyPretzel

He will travel to a 3rd world country and announce a plan to build a big and beautiful resort that will bring in millions of dollars for the local population. ///

LOLOL

I wouldn’t be surprised if he boogied off to Russia.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:56:10am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

I forget is it Donald or Eric Jr that is seriously talking about running for mayor of New York?

Don Jr, who says he “won’t rule it out,” the typical trial balloon.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:56:20am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL

I wouldn’t be surprised if he boogied off to Russia.

That’d be nice.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:56:34am

re: #306 electrotek

It sucks to have anything related to Trump on your resume nowadays.

Yeah good thing my Aunt is pretty much about to retire. It’s too bad honestly if the Trump name on her resume would stain her since she’s excellent at hospitality. Haven’t talked to her about Trump but my uncle (my dad’s brother) was visiting and he made it clear that neither of them can stand Trump.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:56:39am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL

I wouldn’t be surprised if he boogied off to Russia.

How well does Vlad tolerate losers who’ve made him look bad?

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No Depression  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:57:06am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Now honestly I think the best punishment for Trump will be losing to a woman and seeing his brand go to shit. My aunt actually works at a Trump hotel. It’s unfortunate for her since he actually doesn’t own it but his name is on it so people understandably assume he does. I think what he will do when he loses is try to become a Rupert Murdoch type and make Steve Bannon his Roger Ailes. He’s not going to fade away unfortunately.

I would absolutely love it if the destruction of his “brand” leaves him on the streets and penniless. Not gonna happen, as there’s plenty of stupid rich people out there to give him money.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:57:12am

re: #310 Targetpractice

Don Jr, who says he “won’t rule it out,” the typical trial balloon.

I hope he does. No way he’d win.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:57:34am

re: #313 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

How well does Vlad tolerate losers who’ve made him look bad?

Not well, I’d imagine.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:58:16am

re: #296 electrotek

So I met Richard (Ziggy_TARDIS ) last night and we hung out at a halal burger place for a bit. It was nice meeting you Richard and nice to put a face to someone off LGF. In fact, I think this is the first time I’ve met someone off here in person since signing up back in 2010.

wait - you people have other names?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:58:29am

Off to give the dog his Fall bath. This will take a while.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:58:39am

re: #314 No Depression

I would absolutely love it if the destruction of his “brand” leaves him on the streets and penniless. Not gonna happen, as there’s plenty of stupid rich people out there to give him money.

Yeah unfortunately he’s developed quite the following these past 18 months. Man we’re not even a month from the election and I am still stunned that this sob is a major party nominee. On that note, we can’t let the GOP and conservatives get away with spinning Trump off as an aberration of their party and movement.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:59:02am

re: #297 Franklin

How well would this strategy work for Sec. Clinton at the final debate:

Comment in the first few minutes of the debate that she will not be responding to Donald’s outlandish claims so that she can focus on the questions to give the American people answers to how she plans to govern.

Or does she have to go toe-to-toe with him?

ive been saying that all along (the first part)

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:59:38am

Just got a Youtube ad from “45Committee” for Trump, and…well…it was hard as hell to tell whether or not I was watching a real ad or an ad for another Purge sequel. It was that corny.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:00:08am

re: #179 Decatur Deb

My police department can not be relied upon in such a scenario.

“I’d like to introduce you to John, our Chief of Police, here. And this is his son Nathan Bedford.”

Oh boy, coincidence, I’m sure.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:00:41am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Yeah unfortunately he’s developed quite the following these past 18 months. Man we’re not even a month from the election and I am still stunned that this sob is a major party nominee. On that note, we can’t let the GOP and conservatives get away with spinning Trump off as an aberration of their party and movement.

One of my students said to me the fact the he’s got that RICO trial pending should’ve been enough for any serious political party to disavow him, his supporters be damned.

She’s absolutely right.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:01:24am

re: #300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The questions will all be of the form: “Why does everybody hate you so much?” She needs to take a leaf from Trump’s book and talk about what she wants to talk about regardless.

“different people have different opinions of people in the public eye, including you chris. lets talk about what the people in this country have told me are their concerns, needs and vision for the future”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:01:38am
3rd Party candidate has never won? Hmm…Abraham Lincoln?
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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:02:07am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

I hope he does. No way he’d win.

Yeah, Dems could run a potted plant against anyone with the name Trump, and the potted plant would win walking away.

That family is firmly convinced that they’re going to still have political juice after this debacle of a campaign, while they’ll be damned lucky if their brand doesn’t collapse altogether.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:02:08am

re: #301 HappyWarrior

Well if he’s actually committed crimes, I have no problem with that. That said, I don’t want but equally I don’t expect Clinton to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate him if she wins.

i’d like to see him treated exactly the same as anyone else.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:03:13am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

One of my students said to me the fact the he’s got that RICO trial pending should’ve been enough for any serious political party to disavow him, his supporters be damned.

She’s absolutely right.

Yeah there’s so much about him that the GOP totally has ignored. Obama had it right in NC last night, what took them so long. In that sense while I’m happy about the tape exposing him, I’m a little disappointed that people weren’t realizing that there are a lot of other fucked up things about this guy that did NOT cause the GOP establishment to run a way from him and these were things he was doing as a candidate.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:03:38am

Sharing this here, but because it will probably appeal to lizards. The authors are writers for several popular TV series and the proceeds benefit Lupus research.

Instagram

#dayofthegirl
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#dayofthegirl
Ps this book is brilliant and is available to buy if you wanna wanna (you shoulda shoulda).

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:04:31am

re: #316 Dr Lizardo

Not well, I’d imagine.

Trump could room up with Snowden. :)

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:06:13am

re: #293 FormerDirtDart

Yes it is.
I found it odd that no one in media had been saying much about Stern’s audio on Trump walking in on naked women. It’s practically been out as long as his sexual assault tape.
Now, with people bringing up Miss TEEN USA contestants being perved on, someone might start bringing it up nationally in prime time.

Yeah, by tonight Miss Teen USA is going to be plastered on some networks chyron during prime time…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:06:27am

re: #325 FormerDirtDart

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So Gary and Bill want to admit they’re likely to only get 15% of the vote and use Congress to get elected if there’s not a clear majority for either Trump or Clinton. Okay that’s actually very undemocratic of them. And yes Lincoln wasn’t a third party candidate. The Republicans were an offshoot of the Whigs. Lincoln wasn’t their first nominee, John C Fremont was. There were four parties running that year. I do wonder how the Libertarians who hate Abe are going to take that ad though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:09:08am

Honestly to many Johnson’s whole appeal is he’s not Trump or Clinton, and I guess if you’re naive, it’s easy to be attracted to that but when you look at how Gary Johnson really approaches the issues, you’ll see that he has a dangerous way of approaching things. It’s pretty sad to say that he’s probably the second most serious person running since I think he’s better than Trump and Stein but the gap between him and Clinton is far bigger than the gap between him, Trump, and Stein.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:10:18am

re: #318 Decatur Deb

Off to give the dog his Fall bath. This will take a while.

from Will Penny:

Mr. Penny… It’s time for a bath.
- Bath!
Yes, Mr. Penny
- A bath.
- What for? I took a bath.
When?
- Well, back there in Alfred at that hotel. It was real hot, too
That seems like a long time ago. It’s about time for another
-So soon?
Mr. Penny. How often do you bathe?
- What? What?
I said, how often do you bathe?
-Eight or nine times, it… depends.
On what?
- On the weather
Eight or nine times a month?
-Eight or nine times a month? A year!
A year?
- Well, sure….

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:10:18am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

So Gary and Bill want to admit they’re likely to only get 15% of the vote and use Congress to get elected if there’s not a clear majority for either Trump or Clinton. Okay that’s actually very undemocratic of them. And yes Lincoln wasn’t a third party candidate. The Republicans were an offshoot of the Whigs. Lincoln wasn’t their first nominee, John C Fremont was. There were four parties running that year. I do wonder how the Libertarians who hate Abe are going to take that ad though.

I forgot Millard Fillmore was the Know-Nothing candidate and carried Maryland.

Frémont would challenge you to a duel for leaving the accent off his name, though. What a poser he was!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:10:20am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

What will be truly embarrassing for the Libertarians and Greens will be if a very, very late race entry Independent actually wins a state, and they don’t

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:10:35am

I guess Katrina miscalculated by bitching about rap music lyrics.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:11:01am

re: #325 FormerDirtDart

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Wait, Gary Johnson is running with Walter Matthau? Odd couple indeed, given that Walter is dead.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:11:27am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

What will be truly embarrassing for the Libertarians and Greens will be if a very, very late race entry Independent actually wins a state, and they don’t

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Yeah it will be.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:11:37am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

One of my students said to me the fact the he’s got that RICO trial pending should’ve been enough for any serious political party to disavow him, his supporters be damned.

She’s absolutely right.

any one of a literal thousand things should have been enough
it is mind boggling that this is happening

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:13:04am

re: #335 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I forgot Millard Fillmore was the Know-Nothing candidate and carried Maryland.

Frémont would challenge you to a duel for leaving the accent off his name, though. What a poser he was!

I always thought it was odd that Fillmore carried Maryland as the Know-Nothing since at that time, after Louisiana, Maryland was probably the most Catholic state in the Union and the Know-Nothing’s appeal was to Anti-Catholicism. Granted Maryland’s Catholics were mostly English-American Catholics who had long been established in the US but I digress.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:13:27am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

What will be truly embarrassing for the Libertarians and Greens will be if a very, very late race entry Independent actually wins a state, and they don’t

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So it looks like nobody’s going to break 40—is it strict plurality, no matter how low?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:14:37am

Stein thankfully is showing hereslf to be a non factor as she should. I don’t like Johnson but at least he has a track record to run on.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:15:17am

re: #338 Barefoot Grin

Wait, Gary Johnson is running with Walter Matthau? Odd couple indeed, given that Walter is dead.

Seriously, if you knew nothing about it and saw that picture, would you pick the guy on the right as the head of the ticket?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:15:50am

BOOM…
Fuck You Scott

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:16:56am

re: #338 Barefoot Grin

Wait, Gary Johnson is running with Walter Matthau? Odd couple indeed, given that Walter is dead.

constitution qualifications for office do not specify “living”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:17:06am

re: #344 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Seriously, if you knew nothing about it and saw that picture, would you pick the guy on the right as the head of the ticket?

I know. He’s the one you see at the class reunion and think “wonder how he did with his dad’s flooring business?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:17:26am

re: #344 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Seriously, if you knew nothing about it and saw that picture, would you pick the guy on the right as the head of the ticket?

Yeah I got the impression that Weld was the top dog. Very weird ad all in all. As I said they’re admitting they’re likely to receive so little of the popular vote but want to use Congress to elect them which I think is unlikely anyhow. As for Lincoln’s win in 1860, he still got nearly 40% of the vote despite three other major candidates and being kept off the ballot in many Southern states.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:17:47am
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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:18:36am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Stein thankfully is showing hereslf to be a non factor as she should. I don’t like Johnson but at least he has a track record to run on.

Stein is a non-factor because the Green Party this year is even more pathetic in past elections. Instead of running a serious campaign, she’s campaigned as the high school mean girl who doesn’t understand why people aren’t flocking to her. Being a twitter troll is not a winning strategy.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:18:41am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:18:59am

re: #347 Barefoot Grin

I know. He’s the one you see at the class reunion and think “wonder how he did with his dad’s flooring business?”

“Oh, Gary, nice guy but a little weird and kept on trying to get me to read Atlas Shrugged when I just wanted to meet girls and play sports.”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:20:01am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

“Oh, Gary, nice guy but a little weird and kept on trying to get me to read Atlas Shrugged when I just wanted to meet girls and play sports.”

Ha! Perfect. (Though I fell under the sway of Atlas Shrugged for about two weeks between freshman and sophomore years)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:20:33am

re: #345 FormerDirtDart

BOOM…
Fuck You Scott

BREAKING: Voter registration extended 6 more days in battleground state of Florida because of Hurricane Matthew.

Republicans realize that increased voter registration (and participation) is a net loss for them. That is why they are fighting it tooth and name in the name of “preventing voter fraud”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:20:34am

re: #351 Franklin

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Must be fate because when I clicked shuffle, I got the year of my birth:
1987

Hillary is appointed chair of the American Bar Association’s Commission on Women in the Profession, which looks at gender bias in the law industry.

Trump publishes “The Art of the Deal” in which he is quoted: “I play to people’s fantasies…I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:21:41am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

I like this:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:23:32am

re: #356 Franklin

I like this:

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It’s a great little gadget especially since he’s been bitching at her “Well why didn’t you do this?” What my parents and I have been asking ourselves is if Donald thought things were so awful, why didn’t he ever run before?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:24:37am

1972
Hillary takes racial discrimination head-on. Working for Marian Wright Edelman, she goes undercover to investigate prejudice against black students at a private school in Alabama.Two government-sanctioned investigators go undercover as renters to determine whether or not Trump Management was discriminating against minorities.

Two government-sanctioned investigators go undercover as renters to determine whether or not Trump Management was discriminating against minorities.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:25:36am

So, it’s Wednesday.
So, this has a good chance of being discussed during the Sunday morning shows.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:27:53am

re: #351 Franklin

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about time

lifetime of public service vs _________?

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:27:58am

Bill Clintons introduction for Hillary at the DNC was the answer to Trumps inquiry to what she has done for the last 30 (45+ years really).

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:28:54am

re: #359 FormerDirtDart

So, it’s Wednesday.
So, this has a good chance of being discussed during the Sunday morning shows.

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For almost a year, the media spent many breathless hours and days talking about the possibility of Hillary being indicted and on trial for various felonies related to her emails during her her first year in office.

Yet Trump is actually going to be involved in two trials involving felonies in the next two months…and the media couldn’t give a fuck less. A president-elect on trial for RICO violations and rape allegations before he even took the oath? Obviously not as big an issue as remarks Comey made back in June when he was announcing the FBI would not be recommending indictment.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:29:43am

From here wiki page:

Following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., Rodham organized a two-day student strike and worked with Wellesley’s black students to recruit more black students and faculty.[31] In her student government role, she played a role in keeping Wellesley from being embroiled in the student disruptions common to other colleges.[29][33] A number of her fellow students thought she might some day become the first female President of the United States.[29]

The bolded was thought by her peers in 1968(ish).

Fuck Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:29:54am

re: #361 Franklin

Bill Clintons introduction for Hillary at the DNC was the answer to Trumps inquiry to what she has done for the last 30 (45+ years really).

I actually learned a lot about her past through that. I really think if more people in my generation learned about what she’s done over the years, we’d see her in a better light and not merely as the establishment who beat Bernie. Note, that’s not how I saw her but that is how many millennials do including my own brothers.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:30:34am

re: #362 Targetpractice

For almost a year, the media spent many breathless hours and days talking about the possibility of Hillary being indicted and on trial for various felonies related to her emails during her her first year in office.

Yet Trump is actually going to be involved in two trials involving felonies in the next two months…and the media couldn’t give a fuck less. A president-elect on trial for RICO violations and rape allegations before he even took the oath? Obviously not as big an issue as remarks Comey made back in June when he was announcing the FBI would not be recommending indictment.

How else is Mike Pence going to become president?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:30:36am

re: #359 FormerDirtDart

So, it’s Wednesday.
So, this has a good chance of being discussed during the Sunday morning shows.

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I mentioned that one to my student as well as the RICO case - at first she didn’t believe me. She thought I was kidding. So I pulled up a story about it.

Wish I’d taken a photo. The expression on her face was one of utter incredulity.

Then I told her about that whole “grab ‘em by the pussy” thing and played her the audio. I’ve never seen anyone go from incredulous to enraged so fast.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:31:34am

re: #363 Franklin

From here wiki page:

The bolded was thought by her peers in 1968(ish).

Fuck Trump.

Interesting. Not only did she organize a strike, she made sure to keep it calm. Sometimes, we call that leadership.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:31:53am

re: #362 Targetpractice

For almost a year, the media spent many breathless hours and days talking about the possibility of Hillary being indicted and on trial for various felonies related to her emails during her her first year in office.

Yet Trump is actually going to be involved in two trials involving felonies in the next two months…and the media couldn’t give a fuck less. A president-elect on trial for RICO violations and rape allegations before he even took the oath? Obviously not as big an issue as remarks Comey made back in June when he was announcing the FBI would not be recommending indictment.

even “involved” is too light a word
he is accused is he not?
and the cases have enough merit that they will be heard

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:31:56am

re: #365 Belafon

How else is Mike Pence going to become president?

Holy shit, it just occurred to me maybe that’s exactly why Pence agreed to be his VP!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:32:39am

What I like about this gizmo is it really sort of dismantles this false narrative that Hillary is the lesser of two evils. No, far from it, she’s a good choice who has a solid record and leadership skills.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:33:24am

re: #369 Dr Lizardo

Holy shit, it just occurred to me maybe that’s exactly why Pence agreed to be his VP!!

Hopefully joke will be on Pence when Donald and him lose and his political career is pretty much done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:33:39am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

What I like about this gizmo is it really sort of dismantles this false narrative that Hillary is the lesser of two evils. No, far from it, she’s a good choice who has a solid record and leadership skills.

I don’t like her, but you don’t have to like a candidate, you just vote for the one who is the best qualified. In that there is no question.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:33:58am

Seriously. Fuck Trump.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:34:37am

re: #365 Belafon

How else is Mike Pence going to become president?

That has been a factor in a lot of the tepid support from the media and “serious” Republicans for Trump, the assumption that he won’t make it through his first year in office before being impeached and his VP taking the White House. They’re not voting for Trump, they’re voting for Pence.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:35:18am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t like her, but you don’t have to like a candidate, you just vote for the one who is the best qualified. In that there is no question.

Well honestly technically speaking McCain was more qualified than Obama. However, there wasn’t anywhere near the gap we have here. I’ve honestly come to like her quite a bit. I wasn’t a fan in 2008 but the more I’ve seen and learned about her the more I like her quite a bit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:36:04am

re: #374 Targetpractice

That has been a factor in a lot of the tepid support from the media and “serious” Republicans for Trump, the assumption that he won’t make it through his first year in office before being impeached and his VP taking the White House. They’re not voting for Trump, they’re voting for Pence.

Regardless, Trump would soon tire of the nuts and bolts of actually governing and compromising and simply head off on extended jaunts to visit his favorite tin-horn dictator buddies and leave Pence to run the show.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:36:10am

re: #374 Targetpractice

That has been a factor in a lot of the tepid support from the media and “serious” Republicans for Trump, the assumption that he won’t make it through his first year in office before being impeached and his VP taking the White House. They’re not voting for Trump, they’re voting for Pence.

And honestly in some ways Pence is worse than Trump as Cruz was in the primaries.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:37:32am

re: #375 HappyWarrior

Well honestly technically speaking McCain was more qualified than Obama. However, there wasn’t anywhere near the gap we have here. I’ve honestly come to like her quite a bit. I wasn’t a fan in 2008 but the more I’ve seen and learned about her the more I like her quite a bit.

I might add that one also votes for a candidate whose policies and record reflect what you want.

McCain had a running mate who was not qualified for the job at all.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:37:59am

re: #375 HappyWarrior

Well honestly technically speaking McCain was more qualified than Obama. However, there wasn’t anywhere near the gap we have here. I’ve honestly come to like her quite a bit. I wasn’t a fan in 2008 but the more I’ve seen and learned about her the more I like her quite a bit.

That’s only if you think the right qualifications are those listed on paper, such as time in office. There were plenty of other qualifications, such as poise and temperament, that are also important, that Obama has way more of than McCain. These are also traits that Clinton has that Trump does not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:38:29am

re: #377 HappyWarrior

And honestly in some ways Pence is worse than Trump as Cruz was in the primaries.

He has said that his role model is Dick Cheney, and he would set out to do to women’s and LGBT rights what DC did to Iraq.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:39:03am

re: #378 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I might add that one also votes for a candidate whose policies and record reflect what you want.

McCain had a running mate who was not qualified for the job at all.

Yeah and likewise Obama did have a running mate. Trump by far is the most inexperienced candidate ever to run on a major party ticket. Add his temperament and man.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:39:41am

re: #378 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I might add that one also votes for a candidate whose policies and record reflect what you want.

McCain had a running mate who was not qualified for the job at all.

And yet, McCain’s running mate was vastly more qualified than Trump

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:39:54am

re: #379 Belafon

That’s only if you think the right qualifications are those listed on paper, such as time in office. There were plenty of other qualifications, such as poise and temperament, that are also important, that Obama has way more of than McCain. These are also traits that Clinton has that Trump does not.

Yeah ideology aside which I definitely agreed more on Obama with, he definitely had the better temperament for the office. McCain has even admitted he’s a hothead.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:40:29am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has said that his role model is Dick Cheney, and he would set out to do to women’s and LGBT rights what DC did to Iraq.

Yeah that’s what I meant. Pence is one of the worst so-con nutjobs in the GOP. A true believer.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:41:12am

re: #382 FormerDirtDart

And yet, McCain’s running mate was vastly more qualified than Trump

Speaking of her, she’s been very quiet this election since her endorsement of Trump in the primaries. I’d be so amused if Clinton won or at least made Alaska close.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:41:39am

re: #376 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Regardless, likely in the first week, Trump would soon tire of the nuts and bolts of actually governing and compromising and simply head off on extended jaunts to visit his favorite tin-horn dictator buddies and leave Pence to run the show.

add that for ya

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Jayleia  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:41:40am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

If it was the plan, it wasn’t Pence’s. He’s an idiot, possibly as stupid as his boss.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:43:40am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

Speaking of her, she’s been very quiet this election since her endorsement of Trump in the primaries. I’d be so amused if Clinton won or at least made Alaska close.

trump has outclassed her schtick

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:45:14am

re: #388 dangerman

trump has outclassed her schtick

“I have word salad, the best, the most perfect word salad, believe me!!”
- Donald Trump

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:45:26am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

Speaking of her, she’s been very quiet this election since her endorsement of Trump in the primaries. I’d be so amused if Clinton won or at least made Alaska close.

She hasn’t been quiet, it’s just that Trump has totally overshadowed her. She issued a word salad the other day in defense of Trump’s “lock room talk,” but nobody took notice because it was one of the least insane things in his defense.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:46:24am

re: #390 Targetpractice

She hasn’t been quiet, it’s just that Trump has totally overshadowed her. She issued a word salad the other day in defense of Trump’s “lock room talk,” but nobody took notice because it was one of the least insane things in his defense.

Ah that makes sense then.

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Lidane  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:48:19am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:49:19am
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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:50:23am

I’m seeing all these videos of excitement and celebration in Ohio for first day of early voting.

YEEAAAASS! I can’t wait to vote in two weeks.

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:50:38am

re: #260 Franklin

re: my sportstball analogy above. If you want to watch a great ESPN production, check out Four Days in October which recaps the 2004 ALCS. It helps to be a Red Sox fan (definitely not a Yankees fan) to enjoy it. It’s hard for me to determine if it truly is a great story, or if my emotions of living through it take over.

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I can’t help with determining the greatness of the story, as I too am a Red Sox fan, and a long-suffering one at that. I tell people my parents (both born in 1919) lived and died without ever seeing the Bosox win a World Series.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:50:44am

re: #345 FormerDirtDart

BOOM…
Fuck You Scott

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Scott calls out National Guard to protect the voting rights of rich white people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:52:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:52:32am

re: #392 Lidane

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If Hillary really did pull off a victory in Texas, the GOP and the wingnuts are gonna be shitting multicolored psychedelic Twinkies for the next year and a half.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:52:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:52:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:53:31am
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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:53:38am

re: #374 Targetpractice

That has been a factor in a lot of the tepid support from the media and “serious” Republicans for Trump, the assumption that he won’t make it through his first year in office before being impeached and his VP taking the White House. They’re not voting for Trump, they’re voting for Pence.

Hey, I remember that one. Back in 2008 they weren’t voting for McCain (who was bound to die in office), they were voting for Palin.

Good times.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:54:17am

re: #398 Dr Lizardo

If Hillary really did pull off a victory in Texas, the GOP and the wingnuts are gonna be shitting multicolored psychedelic Twinkies for the next year and a half.

Ayep, if she manages to turn Texas blue, then it’s pretty much a herald of the end for the GOP as a national party. The final proof that white votes alone cannot carry them forward.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:54:33am

re: #400 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What a fucking spineless weasel and Thune is in their leadership too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:54:45am

diplomacy…

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:54:46am

re: #262 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It was funny when they had to change the ending of Fever Pitch at the last minute.

Not the original…

imdb.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:55:48am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

diplomacy…

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Yet your country bans “homosexual propaganda” aka the nerve to suggest that gay people aren’t perverts and should have equality and be treated like human beings.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:55:51am

re: #359 FormerDirtDart

So, it’s Wednesday.
So, this has a good chance of being discussed during the Sunday morning shows.

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Ha! That’s funny.

Naw, Trump will imply that Hillary is peeing blood, and the media will go all out to investigate.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:56:02am

re: #400 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Glorious conservative “principle”.

What a sorry sack.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:56:20am

re: #398 Dr Lizardo

If Hillary really did pull off a victory in Texas, the GOP and the wingnuts are gonna be shitting multicolored psychedelic Twinkies for the next year and a half.

first the skittles, then the tic-tacs
now we’ll need a denunciation from twinkies people

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:56:34am

re: #403 Targetpractice

Ayep, if she manages to turn Texas blue, then it’s pretty much a herald of the end for the GOP as a national party. The final proof that white votes alone cannot carry them forward.

And it also spells the definitive end of the Southern Strategy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:57:50am

Is it too early to start drinking?

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:58:49am

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is it too early to start drinking?

Five o’clock somewhere.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:58:57am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:59:09am

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is it too early to start drinking?

If he was Paul, your sorry ass would be rotting away in jail. Go fuck yourself you racist dictator wannabe.

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Lidane  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:59:12am

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:59:55am

good grief

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:00:14am

re: #414 Skip Intro

Do you think Trump respected her privacy?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:00:32am

re: #416 Lidane

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For people who profess President Obama is a tyrant, LePage and WND sure seem to have some authoritarian wet dreams of their own.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:01:10am
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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:01:24am

re: #416 Lidane

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Again, I’m reminded about the “joke” I heard for years from conservatives, that Nixon didn’t do anything wrong, he “just got caught.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:02:03am

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is it too early to start drinking?

It’s at least late afternoon somewhere on the planet, and we’re a “Global Society” now…
So, go for it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:03:13am

re: #403 Targetpractice

Ayep, if she manages to turn Texas blue, then it’s pretty much a herald of the end for the GOP as a national party. The final proof that white votes alone cannot carry them forward.

If it weren’t for voter suppression, Texas would go blue this time. There’s been a huge surge in Latino registrations, for one thing. It’s going to be close enogh that the Texas GOP will be scared to death—scared enough to do even more stupid shit than usual to suppress Democratic voters. Maybe enough they’ll finally get slapped down hard.

Seriously, US elections need UN observers for a few cycles.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:03:13am

re: #414 Skip Intro

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I think by this point the only ones in his family who still bother to cover for his ass are his sons, who have delusions of political grandeur. Ivanka has slowly blended into the background, Melania has (with the exception of the press statement the other day) gone silent, and the campaign has dropped Tiffany’s part in it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:03:22am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

Yet your country bans “homosexual propaganda” aka the nerve to suggest that gay people aren’t perverts and should have equality and be treated like human beings.

Because it is assumed that homosexuality is a crime against nature and that gays only propagate by corrupting youth.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:04:06am

re: #422 FormerDirtDart

It’s at least late afternoon somewhere on the planet, and we’re a “Global Society” now…
So, go for it.

Yeah, it 8:00 pm here. Drink up!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:04:29am

re: #406 BeachDem

Not the original…

imdb.com

Wow! Never even heard of that one.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:04:35am

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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2010, ancient history

/s

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:05:14am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

I always thought it was odd that Fillmore carried Maryland as the Know-Nothing since at that time, after Louisiana, Maryland was probably the most Catholic state in the Union and the Know-Nothing’s appeal was to Anti-Catholicism. Granted Maryland’s Catholics were mostly English-American Catholics who had long been established in the US but I digress.

Yeah I hadn’t thought of that connection before, but even though Maryland was founded by Catholics (Catholic proprietors anyway), and was very tolerant religiously at first, at a certain point that changed. Catholic Charles Carroll who went on to sign the Declaration of Independence was rich, but like other Catholics, basically disenfranchised. Catholics were discriminated against in Maryland for many years.

Then, too, the most racist part of states like Mississippi was the so-called “Black Belt”, where Blacks were a nominal majority of the population. Something like that might have worked in Maryland in regard to Catholics as well.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:06:33am

re: #429 Sir John Barron

Yeah I hadn’t thought of that connection before, but even though Maryland was founded by Catholics (Catholic proprietors anyway), and was very tolerant religiously at first, at a certain point that changed. Catholic Charles Carroll who went on to sign the Declaration of Independence was rich, but like other Catholics, basically disenfranchised. Catholics were discriminated against in Maryland for many years.

Then, too, the most racist part of states like Mississippi was the so-called “Black Belt”, where Blacks were a nominal majority of the population. Something like that might have worked in Maryland in regard to Catholics as well.

Yeah, that’s a good point. The history of Catholicism in this country is very interesting to say the least.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:06:33am

re: #418 Belafon

Do you think Trump respected her privacy?

I’m sure she was used to it by the time she was eight.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:06:58am

re: #415 HappyWarrior

If he was Paul, your sorry ass would be rotting away in jail. Go fuck yourself you racist dictator wannabe.

LePage needs to be held up as the kind of horror story third party candidates can inflict.

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No Depression  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:07:05am

Heh.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:08:11am

re: #424 Targetpractice

And Kellyanne appears to be on track to score her biggest failure yet.

Of all of them, the one I miss is the “Sez Who” lawyer. Whatever happened to him?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:11:47am

re: #434 Skip Intro

And Kellyanne appears to be on track to score her biggest failure yet.

Of all of them, the one I miss is the “Sez Who” lawyer. Whatever happened to him?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:13:02am
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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:13:31am

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:13:32am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OFFS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:14:58am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:14:58am

re: #414 Skip Intro

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I’m having a hard time believing this story. It’s just too over the top-even for Trump. It sounds like something that would have come to light and booted him from the pageant world a long time ago.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:15:01am

re: #438 Skip Intro

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:16:57am

re: #430 HappyWarrior

Yeah, that’s a good point. The history of Catholicism in this country is very interesting to say the least.

I learned quite a bit from this book. Most of it shameful and not surprising to someone raised RC.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:17:07am

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They had some of Trump’s Texas woman supporters in a segment last night on CNN. Lots of pathetic excuses for him made by people who probably flipped their shit when Biden said ACA passing was a big fucking deal.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:18:11am

re: #443 Birth Control Works

I learned quite a bit from this book. Most of it shameful and not surprising to someone raised RC.

I should read that. My great uncle was a RC priest at a predominately black parish in Louisiana for many years.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:18:32am

I’m no spring chicken, but I still wonder about the old guys (and it’s always old guys) who put on their socks, then their undershirt and dress shirt, and then underwear in the locker room. I mean, I understand which part of the elderly male anatomy takes the longest to get dry, but I guess I’m not at the don’t give a shit stage yet.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:18:55am

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

you’re agreeing, saying, and confirming that he’s a pig

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:19:51am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

I should read that. My great uncle was a RC priest at a predominately black parish in Louisiana for many years.

It is very much worth reading. It helps complete the history we weren’t taught.

Really, it adds to the Western Civ we didn’t learn in public high school. It would be a good read for any American —regardless of religious upbringing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:20:31am

re: #447 dangerman

you’re agreeing, saying, and confirming that he’s a pig

But yet these are the same people who said Bill Clinton corrupted America’s youth when he had a consensual affair with Monica. That’s what pisses me off the most about it. Trump brags about sexually harassing women and it’s no big deal ot them but they wanted to act like Bill was a morel denigrate for lying about a consensual affair.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:21:07am

re: #441 Birth Control Works

I’m having a hard time believing this story. It’s just too over the top-even for Trump. It sounds like something that would have come to light and booted him from the pageant world a long time ago.

Hard to boot the owner out.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:21:14am

re: #448 Birth Control Works

It is very much worth reading. It helps complete the history we weren’t taught.

As a former history major, there’s so much history we’re not taught. Some of it I understand because of time limitations but there’s a lot of history that should be taught that isn’t.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:22:10am

re: #450 Skip Intro

Hard to boot the owner out.

You’d think parents and others would spread the word and participants and supporting adults would just quit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:22:14am

re: #451 HappyWarrior

As a former history major, there’s so much history we’re not taught. Some of it I understand because of time limitations but there’s a lot of history that should be taught that isn’t.

Like the history of the American labor movement…

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:22:47am

re: #387 Jayleia

If it was the plan, it wasn’t Pence’s. He’s an idiot, possibly as stupid as his boss.

Matt Yglesias called it in 2008:

And I can tell you this about Mike Pence: he has no idea what he’s talking about. The man is a fool, who deserves to be laughed at. He’s almost stupid enough to work in cable television.

thinkprogress.org

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:23:52am

re: #451 HappyWarrior

As a former history major, there’s so much history we’re not taught. Some of it I understand because of time limitations but there’s a lot of history that should be taught that isn’t.

Yeah, on the religious front anyway, I was in my 30’s before I understood that 3 of the worlds major religions had a common source.

Cyprion Davis also taught me that Christianity spread thru Afrika before it travelled to Europe. The Ethiopian Church pre-dates the Vatican.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:24:01am

re: #453 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like the history of the American labor movement…

Yeah,. A lot of Americans don’t understand how brutally the labor movement was suppressed in this country and how the companies used newer immigrants and African-Americans to strum up resentment between native born American workers/older immigrants and newer immigrants/racial minorities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:25:01am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

Yeah,. A lot of Americans don’t understand how brutally the labor movement was suppressed in this country and how the companies used newer immigrants and African-Americans to strum up resentment between native born American workers/older immigrants and newer immigrants/racial minorities.

Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of America” is a good place to catch up on a lot of that.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:25:15am

Or how difficult the Birth Control Movement was for the participants.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:25:16am

re: #455 Birth Control Works

Yeah, on the religious front anyway, I was in my 30’s before I understood that 3 of the worlds major religions had a common source.

Cyprion Davis also taught me that Christianity spread thru Afrika before it travelled to Europe. The Ethiopian Church pre-dates the Vatican.

A lot of people don’t know that the first Christian country was Armenia on that note. But yeah the three major monotheistic religions all being in Abrahmatic in origin is something that most people just don’t know especially Islam.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:26:02am

the butthurt continues.

from Donald on the Android:

campaign staff on the iPhone:

(BTW, donald has previously said that he dictates the iPhone tweets made by his staff)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:26:13am

re: #457 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of America” is a good place to catch up on a lot of that.

Yeah it is. That’s honestly part of my family’s story. My family for much of their time in this country has been working class for the most part with some exceptions.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:27:12am

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth

the butthurt continues.

from Donald on the Android:

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(BTW, donald has previously said that he dictates the iPhone tweets made by his staff)

He seems to think she was a dictator who could do things by decree. As Sam Bee said, the first lady of Arkansas is responsible for the natoin’s tax policies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:27:24am

re: #461 HappyWarrior

Yeah it is. That’s honestly part of my family’s story. My family for much of their time in this country has been working class for the most part with some exceptions.

My granddad fled Chicago during the Haymarket riots, started walking down the tracks, found himself the next morning in Gary, Indiana and settled down there.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:29:09am

Yesterday I went to go see Bill Clinton at rally in a local community center. Unforunately the place only held about 300 people and probably 2000+ showed up. Of course, the deplorables were on-hand. The dichotomy between the two groups couldn’t be more obvious. The deplorables were angry, vile, and, well….deplorable. There really wasn’t anything redeemable about them. Truly despicable assholes. By contrast, the Democratic supporters were cheerful, polite, and highly motivated and enthusiastic. I can’t wait for these assholes to lose again.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:30:30am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My granddad fled Chicago during the Haymarket riots, started walking down the tracks, found himself the next morning in Gary, Indiana and settled down there.

Apparently there was a lot of unrest in Cleveland and that’s probably why my grandmotehr’s grandfather ended up in Pittsburgh. So many Americans don’t understand how hard the working class had to fight to gain things we take for granted like a 40 hour work week, weekends, and 8 hour days. That’s why I’ll defend unions. They’re not perfect but they are why we live much better lives than our ancestors did.

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:30:53am

re: #427 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wow! Never even heard of that one.

The book was written by Nick Hornby, and he also wrote the screenplay for the 1997 version—plus, Colin Firth vs. Jimmy Fallon?

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Lidane  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:31:58am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:31:59am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My granddad fled Chicago during the Haymarket riots, started walking down the tracks, found himself the next morning in Gary, Indiana and settled down there.

Was he Robert Preston in The Music Man? I ask because Gary, Indiana was founded in 1906 and the Haymarket Riots were in 1886.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:32:41am

This should surprise no one.

Fewer than 1 in 10 conservative Republicans trusts climate scientists

arstechnica.com

But they trust Donald Trump. Crazy world.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:33:32am

re: #467 Lidane

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“The American people deserve to know the truth! No more lies!”

“Here’s election polls showing your candidate is less popular than syphilis.”

“THEY DON’T NEED TO KNOW THAT!”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:33:35am

re: #467 Lidane

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This guy is hilariously pathetic. Outlaw public polling. Sure Bill, sure, you who think online polling is the great barometer of how candidates are doing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:33:40am

re: #468 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Was he Robert Preston in The Music Man? I ask because Gary, Indiana was founded in 1906 and rge Haymarket Riots were in 1886.

Wrong riots: race riots in 1919

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:33:59am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:34:49am

re: #472 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wrong riots: race riots in 1919

Ah…sorry. Just thought of the Gary Conservatory of Music and couldn’t resist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:34:55am

New Jersey newspaper:

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:35:16am

re: #464 Dr. Matt

We’re seeing that contrast everywhere. Hillary Clinton’s election will be a monumental repudiation of racism, sexism, hate speech, superstition, and foreign meddling. I think she will be a good president, but her very presence in the office will be a significant step in human progress.

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Lidane  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:36:02am

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somewhere out there, The Outlaw Jersey Whale is thinking about how to close the roads to the Courier-Post offices.

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No Depression  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:36:36am

re: #452 Birth Control Works

You’d think parents and others would spread the word and participants and supporting adults would just quit.

You would think, but things change when promises of fame and fortune enter the equation. I don’t want to make generalizations, but I imagine that a lot of these parents are willing to tolerate a lot of shit if it means their daughter wins the pageant and goes on to have a successful career in modeling or something like that.

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:36:49am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rep. Yoho just said Trump made 2005 comments in a locker room. No he didn’t. He said it while mic’d up talking to someone he barely knew.

And with 5 other people present. This “locker room” bullshit is getting on my last nerve. And Billy Bush is really creepy as well—as John Oliver pointed out in two different segments on Sunday. Can’t believe the NYT called him “one of NBC’s most important on-air personalities.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:36:58am

re: #477 Lidane

Somewhere out there, The Outlaw Jersey Whale is thinking about how to close the roads to the Courier-Post offices.

I see what you did there. Took me a second to catch on. Heh.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:37:40am

re: #477 Lidane

Somewhere out there, The Outlaw Jersey Whale is thinking about how to close the roads to the Courier-Post offices.

I still find it hilarious that anybody thought Big Chicken was ever going to outrun Bridgegate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:38:42am

re: #479 BeachDem

And with 5 other people present. This “locker room” bullshit is getting on my last nerve. And Billy Bush is really creepy as well—as John Oliver pointed out in two different segments on Sunday. Can’t believe the NYT called him “one of NBC’s most important on-air personalities.”

It is again, still a net gain for DT: arguing about what he said at an interview and where is distracting us again from the fact that he is utterly unqualified for the position.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:39:26am

re: #481 Targetpractice

I still find it hilarious that anybody thought Big Chicken was ever going to outrun Bridgegate.

I thought it would die down without catching up to him, at least legally. The political fallout has already lamed him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:39:38am

re: #479 BeachDem

And with 5 other people present. This “locker room” bullshit is getting on my last nerve. And Billy Bush is really creepy as well—as John Oliver pointed out in two different segments on Sunday. Can’t believe the NYT called him “one of NBC’s most important on-air personalities.”

I did like how a lot of athletes said that was bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:42:35am

“could start”???
King obviously hasn’t been paying attention lately.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:42:43am
Bad Ad: There’s a Trump commercial in heavy rotation on what used to be called the major networks. It’s has an Eek-Muslims-roogie-roogie theme. It shows Hillary Rodham Clinton coughing and being helped into the SUV in New York when she was stricken with pneumonia. Watch it all the way through to the end because you are just going to love the punchline.

“Donald Trump will protect you. He is the only one who can.”

Remember the convention speech? “I, alone, can fix this.” Now, he’s the only person who can protect me. But, geez, fellas, what if he’s off somewhere grabbing someone’s pussy when the mecha-robots from Saturn arrive? Do I have to wait for Steven Seagal?

esquire.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:43:32am

re: #483 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought it would die down without catching up to him, at least legally. The political fallout has already lamed him.

I knew the moment it became a federal matter that one or more of them would sell his ass up the river. When it was within the confines of the state, they could have kept quiet or even taken the fall knowing he’d pardon them on the way out of the governor’s mansion. But the moment the Feds showed up, it was either turn evidence or take a trip to Club Fed.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:44:18am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

His support is slipping though. Now, with a few exceptions in a handful of states, his support is around 6-7%.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:44:20am

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

“could start”???
King obviously hasn’t been paying attention lately.

Obviously, the ones supporting a misogynistic, racists, fascist candidate over the good of the country aren’t contributing.

//

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:44:38am

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

“could start”???
King obviously hasn’t been paying attention lately.

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“The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:45:28am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:46:02am

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

“could start”???
King obviously hasn’t been paying attention lately.

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Godzilla (2014) Movie CLIP - “Let Them Fight”

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:48:42am

So it’s come to this.

Samsung ships flameproof boxes for Note 7 returns

Samsung sending out thermally insulated boxes and protective gloves.

arstechnica.com

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:51:02am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

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kos prediction has it at 96/4. Oh, and by the way, fuck Glenn Greenwald. Yes, I’d say Russia is bumbling—they like you, Glenn, so shows they have terrible taste.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:51:29am

re: #493 Skip Intro

So it’s come to this.

Samsung ships flameproof boxes for Note 7 returns

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arstechnica.com

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of goniffs. I’m sorry if anybody was really hurt, but nobody’s ever deserved a public relations disaster like that more.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:52:28am

re: #493 Skip Intro

So it’s come to this.

Samsung ships flameproof boxes for Note 7 returns

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arstechnica.com

So Apple’s iPhone is selling out even though technologically not worth writing home about, while Samsung’s latest attempt at an iPhone killer bursts into flames if you so much as glance at it.

That really is the story of this election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:52:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:53:47am

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:54:19am

re: #494 BeachDem

kos prediction has it at 96/4. Oh, and by the way, fuck Glenn Greenwald. Yes, I’d say Russia is bumbling—they like you, Glenn, so shows they have terrible taste.

Princeton Bayesian projection is at 97%. Maybe the BernieBros will found a colony in Brazil like the Confederates did and make Greenwald their king. I’m just tired of hearing from him.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:55:46am

re: #499 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Princeton Bayesian projection is at 97%. Maybe the BernieBros will found a colony in Brazil like the Confederates did and make Greenwald their king. I’m just tired of hearing from him.

If they take the Trumpanzees with them, hey…….I’m all for it.

Good luck, guys!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:56:26am

re: #499 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Unfortunately, Rationalwiki is following Greenwald like an exceptionally dumb puppy.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:57:15am

Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of assholes.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:57:28am

re: #500 Dr Lizardo

If they take the Trumpanzees with them, hey…….I’m all for it.

Good luck, guys!

I think they should be invited to a large BBQ at the Bundy place. Shouldn’t the tunnels to the empty Walmarts by done by Nov. 9?

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:58:07am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

Greenwald is such a pathetic tool.

505
Jebediah, RBG  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:59:41am

re: #296 electrotek

Cool!

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:00:05am

re: #502 Skip Intro

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Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of assholes.

The long knives have come out.

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Big Steve  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:00:59am

Regarding Russian ineptitude….I was a high school exchange student from the US to the Soviet Union in the mid 1970’s. We arrived at the University of Leningrad and I went to use the vanya (bathroom) and noticed that the toilet paper had visible wood chips in it. I took a roll home with me months later and when giving a talk about my experience I showed it to my classmates and proclaimed that this is why I am certain we will win the cold war.

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Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:01:46am

re: #502 Skip Intro

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Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of assholes.

Give all those seats to Dem’s I’m all for that.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:04:24am

Criminal Felon James Qweef has a new video at Teh Da1ly Qcaller. Set a 24 hr stopwatch for this to be debunked.

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Nojay UK  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:04:41am

re: #496 Targetpractice

So Apple’s iPhone is selling out even though technologically worth writing home about, while Samsung’s latest attempt at an iPhone killer bursts into flames if you so much as glance at it.

Apple is privately shitting bricks since the battery technology in the Samsung phones is pretty much the same as in the Apple phones — it’s even possible they’re getting their batteries from the same manufacturers. Their big problem is the small problem, every phone has got to be slimmer than the previous one because Steve Jobs said so and about the only space left they can eat into in the design is the battery casing around the electrode structure and electrolytes. The result is a more fragile battery containing the energy of a small hand grenade in a phone shell that can bend significantly when stressed or dropped.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:04:47am

re: #507 Big Steve

Regarding Russian ineptitude….I was a high school exchange student from the US to the Soviet Union in the mid 1970’s. We arrived at the University of Leningrad and I went to use the vanya (bathroom) and noticed that the toilet paper had visible wood chips in it. I took a roll home with me months later and when giving a talk about my experience I showed it to my classmates and proclaimed that this is why I am certain we will win the cold war.

Now it’s called “artisanal.”

Quilted Northern Rustic Weave | Artisanal Toilet Paper

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:04:59am

re: #509 Dr. Matt

Criminal Felon James Qweef has a new video at Teh Da1ly Qcaller. Set a 24 hr stopwatch for this to be debunked.

24 hours? Being rather generous, aren’t ya?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:05:51am

re: #510 Nojay UK

Shhhh. Facts are bad, you’re just supposed to bash Samsung and be done with it.

//

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:06:04am

re: #512 Targetpractice

24 hours? Being rather generous, aren’t ya?

The media is preoccupied trying to make this election into a horse race.

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No Depression  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:07:10am

Disingenuous fuck:

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:07:11am

re: #296 electrotek

That is great, I am glad you met. I always thought we should have a vast meeting of the vast lizard family in Vegas.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:07:31am

re: #511 Barefoot Grin

Now it’s called “artisanal.”

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LOLOL I showed that to a group of students and they were all like “WTF?!”

At first they didn’t get it was a joke.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:07:48am

re: #512 Targetpractice

24 hours? Being rather generous, aren’t ya?

Damn……I am really wrong: James O’Keefe Declares Intention To “Drop Atomic Bombs,” Immediately Steps On A Rake

That took all of 5 minutes to debunk the felon.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:08:49am

re: #513 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Shhhh. Facts are bad, you’re just supposed to bash Samsung and be done with it.

//

I should point out that I have nothing against Samsung, I’m still using a Galaxy S4 these days because I’m too lazy to go trade it in. But even when I do, I still intend to stay with Samsung. Even if I was tempted to get an iPhone, I’d wait a year because I can’t afford a new phone every 6-12 months.

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Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:09:11am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:09:34am

re: #518 Dr. Matt

Damn……I am really wrong: James O’Keefe Declares Intention To “Drop Atomic Bombs,” Immediately Steps On A Rake

That took all of 5 minutes to debunk the felon.

Probably too late to get a real job.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:10:25am

re: #519 Targetpractice

I should point out that I have nothing against Samsung, I’m still using a Galaxy S4 these days because I’m too lazy to go trade it in. But even when I do, I still intend to stay with Samsung. Even if I was tempted to get an iPhone, I’d wait a year because I can’t afford a new phone every 6-12 months.

I use a Galaxy S3 and it works great so far. I’ve had it about one year now. The reason I bought it was that it has a removable/changeable battery.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:10:39am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #515 No Depression

Greenwald is still having trouble accepting that he is a lowly stooge for the Russian Intelligence Services

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:10:56am

If you want to meet a lot of deeply stupid people, mention on Kevin Sorbo’s Facebook page that it’s full of nonsense propaganda.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:11:31am

re: #519 Targetpractice

Speaking of which, I need to go get an S6. my S4 is not doing well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:12:06am

re: #515 No Depression

Disingenuous fuck:

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It wasn’t a denial.
It was an apologist’s failed attempt to be snarky.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:13:12am

re: #522 Dr Lizardo

I use a Galaxy S3 and it works great so far. I’ve had it about one year now. The reason I bought it was that it has a removable/changeable battery.

I have an S6 Active, which has been doing great surviving many drops. You can’t remove the battery, but it has about 20% more life than the regular S6.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:13:25am

re: #521 Barefoot Grin

Probably too late to get a real job.

I was about to say that O’Keefe was the wingnut equiv of Michael Moore, but Moore at least includes a hint of truth in his films. O’Keefe finds that truth is too inconvenient to the narrative.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:14:11am

re: #506 Targetpractice

The long knives have come out.

Alabama’s Governor and 3 reps are on the list.

Oh Happy Day The Edwin Hawkins Singers

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Apocalypse  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:14:28am

re: #493 Skip Intro

The annoying thing is the Note7 was a nice phone, bar exploding batteries.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:14:54am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:15:27am
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danarchy  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:15:43am

re: #519 Targetpractice

I should point out that I have nothing against Samsung, I’m still using a Galaxy S4 these days because I’m too lazy to go trade it in. But even when I do, I still intend to stay with Samsung. Even if I was tempted to get an iPhone, I’d wait a year because I can’t afford a new phone every 6-12 months.

I decided to break away from the samsung/apple duopoly for may latest phone and got an LG G5. I haven’t been disappointed. I really like the throwback replaceable battery and when I got it at release they threw in a free spare battery and charging station, as well as their 360 degree camera which I haven’t really played with yet. Unlike motorola and samsung phones I’ve had in the past it isn’t bloated up with a bunch of manufacturer software and mods and is pretty close to stock Android and the second wide angle camera is kinda nice too.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:15:56am

re: #520 Tigger2

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I’m sure gonna miss that man.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:16:00am

re: #502 Skip Intro

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Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of assholes.

The economic anxiety here is just through the roof.

//

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retired cynic  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:16:20am

re: #459 HappyWarrior

A lot of people don’t know that the first Christian country was Armenia on that note. But yeah the three major monotheistic religions all being in Abrahmatic in origin is something that most people just don’t know especially Islam.

People of the Book.

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:16:43am

So the new wingnut flip out is Obama “showing off his erection” on a plane in 2008. Anyone here heard about this one?

538
Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:17:06am

Who will win the presidency?

Hillary Clinton 86.2%
Herr Trump 13.8%

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:18:52am

re: #537 Frankie Five Angels

So the new wingnut flip out is Obama “showing off his erection” on a plane in 2008. Anyone here heard about this one?

Nope, but they probably misheard election.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:20:03am

re: #533 danarchy

Will have to think about that one too.

Need recommendations here. I want to stay with Android.

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:20:42am

re: #502 Skip Intro

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Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of assholes.

While they have their microscope out, they might want to examine their list—quick perusal shows that of the 5 governors they list, only one is running this year; of 16 senators, only 6. (quick count—I might have missed some.)

So go ahead Trumpers, pour your efforts into stopping people who aren’t running—yeah that’ll work.

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retired cynic  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:21:57am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

They chose the wrong vessel. Perhaps the only one that was corrupt or stupid enough to take their support.

[Edited for idiotic writing.]

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:22:36am

re: #531 Ziggy_TARDIS

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So the last poll the wingnuts have been able to point to, the one that some have even said is the only genuinely valid poll…is one that was fucked up by the way it account for a single black young voter.

This election gets stranger with each passing day.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:22:51am

re: #470 Targetpractice

“The American people deserve to know the truth! No more lies!”

“Here’s election polls showing your candidate is less popular than syphilis.”

“THEY DON’T NEED TO KNOW THAT!”

Sadly, many don’t want to know.

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jeffreyw  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:24:04am

re: #519 Targetpractice

I should point out that I have nothing against Samsung, I’m still using a Galaxy S4 these days because I’m too lazy to go trade it in. But even when I do, I still intend to stay with Samsung. Even if I was tempted to get an iPhone, I’d wait a year because I can’t afford a new phone every 6-12 months.

I went from the S4 to an S6, wasn’t too happy that the S6 dropped the micro sd card so I went with the 128 GB in the new one. Probably was overkill - haven’t used half of that yet.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:25:41am

re: #543 Targetpractice

Yep!

LA Times needs to be raked over the coals for this dumb as shit methodology.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:25:56am

re: #520 Tigger2

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DONE.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:26:32am

re: #519 Targetpractice

I should point out that I have nothing against Samsung, I’m still using a Galaxy S4 these days because I’m too lazy to go trade it in. But even when I do, I still intend to stay with Samsung. Even if I was tempted to get an iPhone, I’d wait a year because I can’t afford a new phone every 6-12 months.

I’m fully Apple. I don’t trade my phone in every 6-12 months. I’ve had mine for 2 years. I keep them until it is just plain stupid not to upgrade. I just don’t want to learn a new phone that often.

Apple is easy — support staff are intelligent and actually help the first time.

YMMV

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:27:13am

re: #467 Lidane

I told Buzzfeed today, if it were up to me, public polls would be illegal. Campaigns would be allowed internal polling, no public release.
— Bill Mitchell

Why would public polls be illegal, Bill? Because your shitty candidate is losing?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:27:35am

It is a dark and stormy day by me.

Dogs feel it is a nap day.

I plan to join them.

bbl

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:27:46am

re: #532 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:28:15am

re: #548 Birth Control Works

I’m fully Apple. I don’t trade my phone in every 6-12 months. I’ve had mine for 2 years. I keep them until it is just plain stupid not to upgrade. I just don’t want to learn a new phone that often.

Apple is easy — support staff are intelligent and actually help the first time.

YMMV

The biggest reason I stick with Android is that I don’t have to talk to anyone.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:28:20am

Regularly I ask myself “Which current candidate do I see capable of this Presidential act?”
I have yet to find myself thinking “Trump could handle that”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:28:44am

re: #537 Frankie Five Angels

So the new wingnut flip out is Obama “showing off his erection” on a plane in 2008. Anyone here heard about this one?

yep. DailyWire, DailyCaller, YahooNews…all the usual “sources”. There’s a video but I’m not going to watch it.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:29:11am

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth

the butthurt continues.

from Donald on the Android:

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(BTW, donald has previously said that he dictates the iPhone tweets made by his staff)

Yes, Donald, she’s been president for 30 years.

What a loser.

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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:29:58am

Trumps head looks like it’s about to pop off.

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:30:48am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:30:49am

re: #554 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. DailyWire, DailyCaller, YahooNews…all the usual “sources”. There’s a video but I’m not going to watch it.

BOOM! Checkmate, libtards!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:31:40am
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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:32:12am

Putin’s propaganda lords are finding out that self-funded tools like Greenwald and Alex Jones are inherently unreliable and undisciplined, no matter how slavishly loyal they have been so far. They could well interfere with larger propaganda objectives, particularly when they come in conflict with more disciplined stooges like Wikileaks.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out, especially now that Greenwald’s protector, erstwhile Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff, was impeached and thrown out of office at the end of August. Her replacement, 76 year old lawyer Michel Temer, was personally targeted by Wikileaks and therefore seems a good deal less likely to play along with Kremlin intrigue of any kind.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:32:19am

re: #537 Frankie Five Angels

So the new wingnut flip out is Obama “showing off his erection” on a plane in 2008. Anyone here heard about this one?

OMG

no.

562
Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:32:52am

re: #554 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. DailyWire, DailyCaller, YahooNews…all the usual “sources”. There’s a video but I’m not going to watch it.

I defiantly think this will stop Obama from winning his 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th terms in office.

563
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:33:06am

re: #554 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. DailyWire, DailyCaller, YahooNews…all the usual “sources”. There’s a video but I’m not going to watch it.

Wonkette is on it.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:36:15am

re: #554 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. DailyWire, DailyCaller, YahooNews…all the usual “sources”. There’s a video but I’m not going to watch it.

These people are just deplorably sad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:36:18am

BWAHAHAHAHAAA

566
Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:36:56am

re: #518 Dr. Matt

Damn……I am really wrong: James O’Keefe Declares Intention To “Drop Atomic Bombs,” Immediately Steps On A Rake

That took all of 5 minutes to debunk the felon.

Time for this again.

The Simpsons- Sideshow Bob Steps On Rakes For 10 Minutes

567
Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:36:58am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:37:34am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

BWAHAHAHAHAAA

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Everybody likes me. The blacks. The uneducated. The young. Look at my polls. They’re the best. I’d be winning 90% if not for the media. Rigged!

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:38:23am

re: #567 Dave In Austin

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MY EYES!!!!

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:38:29am

re: #563 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wonkette is on it.

Anyway, we get it. It’s a DOUBLE STANDERT that people might actually want to see Barry speaking softly and having a big stick (you clicked on this post, remember), but would cry for the rest of their lives if they accidentally caught a glimpse of Little Trump. But oh well, that’s just how things are.

haha.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:38:51am

re: #467 Lidane

I told Buzzfeed today, if it were up to me, public polls would be illegal. Campaigns would be allowed internal polling, no public release.
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) October 12, 2016

Just as the forefathers would have wanted.

///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:41:27am
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:41:47am

re: #537 Frankie Five Angels

So the new wingnut flip out is Obama “showing off his erection” on a plane in 2008. Anyone here heard about this one?

These people are so damn insane.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:42:24am
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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:42:38am

re: #549 Sir John Barron

Why would public polls be illegal, Bill? Because your shitty candidate is losing?

Because then when Trump lies about his polls no one would be able to challange him.

Sort of like talk radio ratings, something Mitchell might know something about.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:44:18am

re: #574 Dave In Austin

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FFS, Nixon was a piker compared to the sort of dictator Trump wants to be. Say what you want about Tricky Dick, the biggest motivator for him was paranoia. Trump’s biggest motivator is an ego so large it is in danger of collapsing into a singularity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:44:28am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:45:04am

re: #537 Frankie Five Angels

So the new wingnut flip out is Obama “showing off his erection” on a plane in 2008. Anyone here heard about this one?

Let me guess…..Drudge. Sirens. Etc?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:45:04am

re: #573 jaunte

These people are so damn insane.

Rejitsered? Wazzat?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:47:09am

MSNBC: Trump campaign CEO Steve Bannon thinks Paul Ryan is part of a global elite, including George Soros. Gee, wonder what that’s code for.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:47:38am

re: #574 Dave In Austin

Trump just said “I want veto power”—over the *media.*
— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) October 12, 2016

Yesterday at the Bill Clinton rally, the unhinged vitriol by the Deplorables against the media was the most prevalent ranting. Herr Trump has his klan trained well to despise the media.

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:49:03am
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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:49:17am

re: #580 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Most campaigns, when they go into the sort of tailspin that Trump is in, try to limit the damage to protect their party. Trump’s campaign has decided to instead metamorphize into a fragmentation grenade that takes out as many victims as possible.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:49:39am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:50:12am

re: #581 Dr. Matt

Yesterday at the Bill Clinton rally, the unhinged vitriol by the Deplorables against the media was the most prevalent ranting. Herr Trump has his klan trained well to despise the media.

That’s rich—it was the fucking media’s hyperventilating over that nothingburger that made the Rethugs think they had an impeachable offense. They should love the media.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:51:25am

re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Grossly incompetent. He doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing”—Trump about President Obama, who has a 54-55% approval rating.
— Cathleen Decker

Somebody’s projecting again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:51:49am

David Duke has been on a binge:

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:51:54am

re: #520 Tigger2

Holy shit.

I’m going to put that on an iPad and carry it with me when I’m registering on MLK Avenue and 11th Street. ‘Cause we just got 8 more days.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:52:56am

A friend just messaged me on Facebook, saying that Trump is going batshit at his rally - screaming, yelling, telling bad jokes and doing bad impressions.

Anyone watching?

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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:53:36am

re: #589 makeitstop

I’m watching and yes, he is.

Face is bright red.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:53:53am

re: #589 makeitstop

A friend just messaged me on Facebook, saying that Trump is going batshit at his rally - screaming, yelling, telling bad jokes and doing bad impressions.

Anyone watching?

Just following various reporter on twitter.
it’s insane.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:54:07am

re: #584 Dr. Matt

BUSTED: Rudy Giuliani says he never saw Hillary Clinton in NYC on 9/11 — but pictures prove he’s lying

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Trump Cultist: THAT’S HER BODY DOUBLE!!11??!!? FACT!!!!!

Why is sick Hillary wearing a mask!??! She’s dying!!!1

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:54:38am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

Trump has become a political suicide bomber.

So, he’s a terrorist. I can buy that.

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Franklin  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:54:42am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:55:05am

re: #589 makeitstop

A friend just messaged me on Facebook, saying that Trump is going batshit at his rally - screaming, yelling, telling bad jokes and doing bad impressions.

Anyone watching?

That’s his usual repertoire, isn’t it, though?

/

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:56:18am

re: #584 Dr. Matt

Was that picture snapped on 9-11-01? Doubtful.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:56:41am

Dustbin of History time.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:57:26am

re: #595 Sir John Barron

That’s his usual repertoire, isn’t it, though?

/

My friend watches him all the time on Fox (he writes music for their programming and keeps an eye on when he gets played), and he says it’s off the scale, even by the usual standards.

Trump must have broken into the meth stash this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:57:49am

donald says Americans are stupid weak people.

and the eejits eat it up.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:58:19am

re: #587 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Duke has been on a binge:

That makes me laugh. White supremacists do not need to be preserved.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:58:26am

Oh dear please, great mighty Dog, I really hope Trump and the deplorables start trashing Barbara Bush…..that will be the final, final nail…..

Refresh the comment: I C&Ped the link incorrectly

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:58:52am

re: #598 makeitstop

My friend watches him all the time on Fox (he writes music for their programming and keeps an eye on when he gets played), and he says it’s off the scale, even by the usual standards.

Trump must have broken into the meth stash this morning.

Or come off his meds.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2016 • 10:59:36am

re: #598 makeitstop

My friend watches him all the time on Fox (he writes music for their programming and keeps an eye on when he gets played), and he says it’s off the scale, even by the usual standards.

Trump must have broken into the meth stash this morning.

He knows he’s going down. Arizona just went blue even on 538’s lethargic Polls-plus, and his EVs below 200.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:00:45am

re: #599 Backwoods_Sleuth

donald says Americans are stupid weak people.

and the eejits eat it up.

On Election Night, when Trump loses, to his followers:

“Look at you! Look at you fucks! What a bunch of worthless assholes you are! I was counting on you, and what did you do? You pissed it all away! I could’ve won if it wasn’t for you losers! Really. You all suck!!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:01:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:01:24am
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CuriousLurker  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:01:51am

Real quick, before a new thread goes up:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:01:56am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:02:09am

re: #606 Backwoods_Sleuth

He owes A LOT to Putin.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:02:27am

re: #606 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, he can look forward to the start of his RICO trial on November 28th.

So…..there’s that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:02:28am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:02:36am
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:02:38am

He can’t say the name.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:02:54am
615
No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:03:41am

re: #584 Dr. Matt

That was 9/12. The soonest she could get there with flights cancelled. Giuliani is trying to mislead the rubes, who will pretend they’re right because she didn’t teleport to NY.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:04:09am

re: #612 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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$99.99???
and o.m.g. There’s a “plus size” version of that?

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:04:14am

re: #603 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He knows he’s going down. Arizona just went blue even on 538’s lethargic Polls-plus, and his EVs below 200.

His campaign’s in free-fall. There’s only so much internal polling can do to massage bad numbers, so if the national polls are moving into double-digit loss range, it’s not hard to imagine that even the most optimistic internal polling shows him losing.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:04:33am

re: #613 jaunte

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He can’t say the name.

Gene Eric Republican.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:04:34am

I just had to make that into a Tweet. I know, I’m evil.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:05:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:05:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:06:52am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:06:53am

re: #615 No Country For Old Haters

That was 9/12. The soonest she could get there with flights cancelled. Giuliani is trying to mislead the rubes, who will pretend they’re right because she didn’t teleport to NY.

Just like she wouldn’t teleport herself and an armored division to Benghazi!1!!

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:07:19am

re: #587 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Duke has been on a binge:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:08:21am
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:09:31am
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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:09:31am

We’ve basically reached the “Downfall” stage of the campaign, where even Trump’s most ardent supporters can only be so honest with him for fear of becoming the target of his anger. He’s down now to his core group of sycophants who are feeding him lies because they’re afraid of what happens when reality finally sets in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:10:29am
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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:10:45am

re: #615 No Country For Old Haters

He wasn’t lying.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:11:31am

July: “Well, the convention’s over so Trump should be pivoting any day now…”
August: “Look, he’s begun to pivot…wait, no, false alarm.”
September: “Hillary had a health scare, so Trump might pivot now to capialize…nope, he didn’t, but there’s still hope.”
October: “Fuck it, he’s not pivoting.”

631
No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:11:49am

re: #627 Targetpractice

We’ve basically reached the “Downfall” stage of the campaign, where even Trump’s most ardent supporters can only be so honest with him for fear of becoming the target of his anger. He’s down now to his core group of sycophants who are feeding him lies because they’re afraid of what happens when reality finally sets in.

That’s exactly what his Presidency would have been like. His inner-circle is afraid of him, so he’d go the way of Hitler or Saddam Hussein.

632
No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:12:33am

re: #629 Emptor scriptor Remorse

He wasn’t lying.

He was intentionally misleading the rubes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:12:34am

Protestors playing 2005 P**** audio. Female Supporter: “Who hasn’t said that?” Me: Have you? Her: “No. Don’t be stupid.”

634
jaunte  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:13:18am
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:14:08am

re: #633 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Drink the koolaid?”

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Apocalypse  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:14:37am

re: #633 Backwoods_Sleuth

“who hasn’t said that?”

WHAT?

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:14:39am

re: #630 Targetpractice

July: “Well, the convention’s over so Trump should be pivoting any day now…”
August: “Look, he’s begun to pivot…wait, no, false alarm.”
September: “Hillary had a health scare, so Trump might pivot now to capialize…nope, he didn’t, but there’s still hope.”
October: “Fuck it, he’s not pivoting.”

Aviation accident reports have a technical term for this:

“controlled descent into terrain.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:14:55am

re: #634 jaunte

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Trump’s gone full Alex Jones. You never go full Alex Jones.

And with that, goodnight Lizards. Up early for work tomorrow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:15:34am

ummm…

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:15:54am

re: #638 Dr Lizardo

Someone should tell Trump that Alex Jones can get a LOT redder in the face than he can.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:16:03am

re: #639 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummm…

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Subtle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:16:13am

re: #507 Big Steve

Regarding Russian ineptitude….I was a high school exchange student from the US to the Soviet Union in the mid 1970’s. We arrived at the University of Leningrad and I went to use the vanya (bathroom) and noticed that the toilet paper had visible wood chips in it. I took a roll home with me months later and when giving a talk about my experience I showed it to my classmates and proclaimed that this is why I am certain we will win the cold war.

and now see what it has come to: quilted northern rustic artisanal TP

because all art is anal

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Teukka  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:16:56am

re: #639 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummm…

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Oh boy.
*smh*

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ericblair  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:20:57am

re: #560 Shiplord Kirel

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, especially now that Greenwald’s protector, erstwhile Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff, was impeached and thrown out of office at the end of August. Her replacement, 76 year old lawyer Michel Temer, was personally targeted by Wikileaks and therefore seems a good deal less likely to play along with Kremlin intrigue of any kind.

Putin’s not stupid, but he’s an impulsive and emotional authoritarian and I don’t think the top leadership really understands how Westerners react to things. I assume Russian leadership was convinced that there would be criminally compromising stuff in Hillary’s emails, because they know what’s in their own private correspondence. Then they figure that nobody actually believes in fairness or good government here because it’s all a sham over there. So they release the pile of emails without really looking at them, get surprised when there’s no there there, and get surprised again when people get pissed off about the dirty tricks themselves (which would be pretty mild for a Russian election). They also expect Americans to forget all this in a month, and might be surprised when we don’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:21:21am

re: #551 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah, but she had a mask on, how could he tell?

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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:24:44am

What did they say about Catholics?

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Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:27:30am
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:31:01am

re: #644 ericblair

Putin’s not stupid, but he’s an impulsive and emotional authoritarian and I don’t think the top leadership really understands how Westerners react to things. I assume Russian leadership was convinced that there would be criminally compromising stuff in Hillary’s emails, because they know what’s in their own private correspondence. Then they figure that nobody actually believes in fairness or good government here because it’s all a sham over there. So they release the pile of emails without really looking at them, get surprised when there’s no there there, and get surprised again when people get pissed off about the dirty tricks themselves (which would be pretty mild for a Russian election). They also expect Americans to forget all this in a month, and might be surprised when we don’t.

One thing that strikes me as strange in all this is why there isn’t something apparently damning in the Clinton emails. Perhaps, as suggested above, the Russians assumed there was no need to add anything to spice it up.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:31:43am

SQUEEEE—my new art supplies are here—every color of Dr. Ph. Martin’s India Ink you could ever want! Color, glorious color!

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:32:54am

re: #639 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s Zhirinovsky, the Russian analog to Trump (perhaps more extreme).

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Tigger2  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:33:21am

re: #649 CuriousLurker

SQUEEEE—my new art supplies are here—every color of Dr. Ph. Martin’s India Ink you could ever want! Color, glorious color!

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Oh lord I haven’t see Elaine dance in a long time. haha

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:42:35am

re: #608 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ooooooooh, is he not showing up for the final debate?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 11:54:30am

re: #650 Nyet

That’s Zhirinovsky, the Russian analog to Trump (perhaps more extreme).

Last night at the Trump rally they played (and replayed, and replayed) well-known classical pieces. At one point the sound guys opened 1812 Overture to the Czarist Anthem movement. Accident or nerd sabotage? You decide.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2016 • 12:06:13pm

re: #351 Franklin

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That 1987 photo of Hillary looks like Chelsea’s clone.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 12, 2016 • 2:42:24pm

re: #522 Dr Lizardo

I use a Galaxy S3 and it works great so far. I’ve had it about one year now. The reason I bought it was that it has a removable/changeable battery.

I absolutely REFUSE to buy a cellphone where I cannot remove/replace the battery.


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