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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:24:26pm

Nate Silver coming up next on Colbert

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:29:35pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:29:35pm

Bloomberg: Ocean’s Election: How to rig a Presidential election Las Vegas Style

bloom.bg

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Lidane  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:29:51pm

Please proceed:

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Dragonomics  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:31:35pm

If Trump does create a TV news network, then Democratic politicians must shun it absolutely. No status of legitimacy should be conferred upon such an outlet. It should be allowed to become the festering cesspit of misogyny, racism and crybaby resentment it’s destined to be without interference. Republicans should be allowed, even encouraged, to appear on it endlessly. All the better to smear them in its filth come election season. Trump’s vile campaign for the presidency is only his first gift to the Democratic Party.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:31:51pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:34:03pm
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:34:34pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

SNIFF

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:34:43pm
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Joe Bacon  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:35:10pm

Stick a fork in Trump.

He’s done like one of his third rate steaks!

The Price is Right losing horn

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:36:01pm

Night all, its been fun

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:36:02pm

re: #4 Lidane

Please proceed:

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Grand idea, Lumpy. Your party’s sinking, so why not toss it an anchor? Brilliant!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:36:31pm

Trump is an overdone tuna casserole at this point. We’re going to see his poll numbers really drop after this debate.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:36:40pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

Grand idea, Lumpy. Your party’s sinking, so why not toss it an anchor? Brilliant!

Love watching the GOP eat its own entrails.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:36:47pm

NO, YOU’RE THE PUPPET

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Lidane  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:37:08pm

South Park takes on Trump’s “IT’S ALL RIGGED!” talk:

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:39:19pm
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:39:27pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:40:31pm

re: #14 Big Beautiful Door

Love watching the GOP eat its own entrails.

In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
Who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.

I said, “Is it good, friend?”
“It is bitter - bitter,” he answered;
“But I like it
Because it is bitter,
And because it is my heart.”

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:43:19pm

From Vox:

And it’s not just the presidential race. Betting markets now predict Democrats will win the Senate. Polls have started showing Democrats in striking distance of the House. The GOP has collapsed into a mid-election civil war, with the party’s presidential nominee openly battling the speaker of the House.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:43:36pm

You have to wonder what Breitbart, who has pimped Trump up so much, thinks about him potentially going into competition with them.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:44:29pm

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

You have to wonder what Breitbart, who has pimped Trump up so much, thinks about him potentially going into competition with them.

I doubt it would be competition. Breitbart peeps would have a starring role.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:45:48pm

Repost from the last thread. I think it’s important.

Does Hillary go negative for the next week, mentioning the ongoing civil litigation of the forcible rape trial against Trump of a 13-year old girl?

I think she should, especially in potential swing states with iffy down-ballot races. Trump was established to be in the home of a convicted pedophile at the time of the assaults.

She can go all positive in the last two weeks, but that civil case would be the Death of Trump in how it plays in Plano.

Suburban Republican women can justify a lot, but child rape is right out of their wheelhouse. If they buy the story (and every indication says they should) he is dead meat.

“If you are a star, you can get away with anything.”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:46:56pm

Trolling trolling trolling…… Keep those wingnuts scrolling…..

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:47:04pm

re: #15 jaunte

NO, YOU’RE THE PUPPET

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:49:16pm

Jesus.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:51:38pm

re: #26 MsJ

That’s to be expected from that contemptible freak.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:51:42pm

re: #26 MsJ

Jesus.

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Did you watch it. Was it stroke worthy?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:52:25pm

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:52:45pm

—-Mosul falls before the election.
——Great throngs greet the liberators in the streets
——A similar throng of ISIS fighters are led off to a doubtful future in captivity.
—GOP/Kremlin conspiracy media claim that it didn’t happen and all the pictures were cobbled together from CGI and stock footage.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:53:36pm

re: #26 MsJ

Jesus.

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Well, he does that. He’s bug shit crazy.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:53:53pm

re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

91% for The Donald™ out of over 2,000 votes. I need my fainting couch.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:55:10pm

re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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2319 votes already??? LOLWUT??

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:55:51pm
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:57:57pm
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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:58:10pm

re: #28 Dave In Austin

Did you watch it. Was it stroke worthy?

That was insane. I always thought his was a schtick. But that dude is fukkin nuts.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:01:05pm
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Lidane  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:01:20pm

re: #36 MsJ

That was insane. I always thought his was a schtick. But that dude is fukkin nuts.

Alex Jones was bugfuck crazy when he had a local cable access show here in Austin in the 90s. He’s just got a larger platform now.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:02:02pm

This hashtag! LOL!!

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whitebeach  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:02:28pm

“Such a nasty woman.”

IMHO, this is really the final straw, or the last nail, or however you want to put it.

Not because of the line itself, which is bad enough, but because of how and when it was delivered.

You could tell that the creep had been storing it up, savoring it, probably for hours, thinking it would be a killer (and how stupid a thought is that?). And that he felt time running out, so he had to get it in then or never. And of course it didn’t come while she was attacking him, which might at least have made some kind of dramatic sense, but while she was in the middle of talking about fairly technical issues regarding Medicare.

It was a tone deaf and incompetent trumpet player blatting out the wrong cracked note at the wrong time, and then thinking that because he made noise it was all good.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:04:29pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel

The Offensive is going very well right now, and is also on schedule in regards to capturing towns and villages.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:05:19pm

WeSearchr be having some technical issues with Bitcoin payments, so user helpfully posts this in Twitter.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:05:20pm

re: #38 Lidane

Alex Jones was bugfuck crazy when he had a local cable access show here in Austin in the 90s. He’s just got a larger platform now.

Alex Jones was a vocal supporter of “sovereign citizen” John Joe Gray back in 2000. He spoke to ABC’s 20/20 way back when.

The Gray Standoff on ABC 20/20 Part 2 of 2

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:07:25pm
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Lidane  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:09:38pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:09:52pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel

Every one of Daesh’s bingo halls emptied. (Old joke.)

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:10:52pm
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Dr. Lexus  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:13:10pm
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Lidane  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:14:12pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:15:09pm

Joy Reid is tearing Hugh Hewitt a new asshole.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:15:18pm

re: #45 Lidane

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As Hillary noted tonight, it’s part of a pattern, that Trump doesn’t think he ever loses fairly, it’s always rigged against him. He really does fit the saying “born on third base and thinks he hit a triple” to a T.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:15:27pm

Hugh Hewitt still pimping the O’Keefe video.

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BeachDem  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:15:51pm

re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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Why would you want to waste your time when it could be put to better use cleaning out your sock drawer? (All the votes so far are probably just Furby and friend freeping their own poll)

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:16:21pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

As Hillary noted tonight, it’s part of a pattern, that Trump doesn’t think he ever loses fairly, it’s always rigged against him. He really does fit the saying “born on third base and thinks he hit a triple” to a T.

Her dig on his tv show not winning the Emmy and that being rigged was masterful.

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gwangung  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:18:25pm

re: #54 MsJ

Her dig on his tv show not winning the Emmy and that being rigged was masterful.

God, that was a good dig…and that he actually responded to it was a mark of a pro (her team probably didn’t KNOW he’d rise to the bait, but it woulda been a killer line even if he didn’t…_

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whitebeach  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:19:11pm

re: #45 Lidane

I always enjoy seeing Krauthammer. Madame Tussaud’s skin work is amazing, and the Disney World robotics are hard to beat.

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:20:28pm

re: #56 whitebeach

I always enjoy seeing Krauthammer. Madame Tussaud’s skin work is amazing, and the Disney World robotics are hard to beat.

I have never liked him at all, but I think he has some degenerative disease, doesn’t he? MS? ALS?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:21:40pm

I am REALLY going to enjoy the wingnut meltdowns on Nov 9

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whitebeach  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:24:28pm

re: #57 retired cynic

I have never liked him at all, but I think he has some degenerative disease, doesn’t he? MS? ALS?

Not that I know of, although it may have developed lately. He’s been in a wheelchair for many years, since he dived into an empty swimming pool back around his college days. He’s a smart dude and once upon a time had some fairly insightful things to say, but he sold his brains to the devil sometime around the Reagan era.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:24:45pm

re: #57 retired cynic

Paralyzed and wheelchair-bound since a car accident in the Early 1970’s.

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:25:45pm

re: #59 whitebeach

re: #60 Ziggy_TARDIS

Thank you! I sit corrected!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:31:39pm

Stopped clock, blind squirrel……

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VegasGolfer  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:32:22pm

re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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I’ll skew the one on November 8th.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:33:00pm

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

I am REALLY going to enjoy the wingnut meltdowns on Nov 9

me too, still debating whether I should gloat on facebook or just sit back and smile.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:37:46pm

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

I am REALLY going to enjoy the wingnut meltdowns on Nov 9

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:39:10pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

Oh, it’s sparkling!! Oooh!

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:41:10pm
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majii  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:42:57pm

re: #64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

“me too, still debating whether I should gloat on facebook or just sit back and smile.”

I take what I call the “sneaky” approach. I post articles dissing Trump without comment and imagine how pissed off some of my so-called conservative former co-workers get. I don’t express a personal opinion, I let the MSM do the talking for me. I don’t think they’ll ever stop and examine why Trump lost on November 8th, but they’ll invest a lot of time into talking about what the polls they saw indicated about the election—-which is that Trump was winning! I think this will be followed by talking about how Trump was right all along, the election was rigged!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:43:03pm
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Tigger2  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:48:27pm

re: #64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

me too, still debating whether I should gloat on facebook or just sit back and smile.

On facebook I’m going to sit back and smile but on twitter I’m going to gloat like hell on wheels.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:52:04pm

Vox tries to analyze Trump’s argle bargle about Aleppo.

vox.com

Here is what Trump said:

Well, Aleppo is a disaster. It’s a humanitarian nightmare. But it has fallen from any standpoint. I mean, what do you need, a signed document? Take a look at Aleppo. It is so sad when you see what’s happened. And a lot of this is because of Hillary Clinton. Because what has happened is by fighting Assad, who turned out to be a lot tougher than she thought, and now she is going to say, “Oh, he loves Assad.” He’s just much tougher and much smarter than her and Obama. And everyone thought he was gone two years ago, three years ago. He aligned with Russia. He now also aligned with Iran, who we made very powerful. We gave them $150 billion back. We give them $1.7 billion in cash. I mean cash, bundles of cash as big as this stage. We gave them $1.7 billion.

Now they have aligned, he has aligned with Russia and with Iran. They don’t want ISIS. But they have other things because we’re backing, we’re backing rebels. We don’t know who the rebels are. We’re giving them lots of money, lots of everything. We don’t know who the rebels are. And when and if, and it’s not going to happen because you have Russia and you have Iran now. But if they ever did overthrow Assad, you might end up as bad as Assad is, and he is a bad guy.

But you may very well end up with worse than Assad. If she did nothing, we’d be in much better shape. And this is what has caused the great migration where she has taken in tens of thousands of Syrian refugees who probably in many cases, not probably, who are definitely in many cases ISIS-aligned. And we now have them in our country and wait until you see this is going to be the great Trojan horse.

And wait until you see what happens in the coming years. Lots of luck, Hillary. Thanks a lot for doing a great job.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:54:24pm

re: #71 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Vox tries to analyze Trump’s argle bargle about Aleppo.

vox.com

Seriously, read that word salad and explain it to me. How can anyone (Hugh Fuckin Hewitt) say that made any sense at all?

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Tigger2  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:56:53pm

From his Page

DEPLORABLE_Ray Hill ‏@EarnforTrumpNC 14h14 hours ago
@EarnforTrumpNC I need my fellow @realDonaldTrump supporters to vote. The lier liberals are rigging my pole!
0 replies 88 retweets 77 likes

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:57:26pm

This tweet ended up in my TL as a “Promoted Tweet.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:00:31pm
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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:00:33pm
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TedStriker  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:02:32pm

re: #76 MsJ

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Those as (Three) Amigos, not Hombres!

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:02:40pm

Yo yo yo …

Happy Birthday C!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:06:48pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

Yo yo yo …

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Happy Birthday C!

My fellow Dogg.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:07:00pm

College buddy of mine made some Halloween pumpkins. Winner winner chicken dinner.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:07:26pm

re: #79 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is it your birthday wheatdogg?

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whitebeach  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:11:17pm

re: #80 teleskiguy

College buddy of mine made some Halloween pumpkins. Winner winner chicken dinner.

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I’ll have what he’s smokin.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:11:40pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Wow! They pretty much slammed Trump.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:12:13pm
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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:13:01pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:14:31pm

re: #73 Tigger2

Voted his poll then auto-block kicked in

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:16:20pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:16:49pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

Yo yo yo …

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Happy Birthday C!

Spliffin’ right out of the chute….

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:19:30pm

I’ve seen Snoop Dogg live in concert twice, and I have to say the dude can put on a show! And he can work the audience like a motherfucker!

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:20:13pm
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majii  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:22:52pm

re: #90 MsJ

“When things don’t go as planned. #LMAO

To use a southern phrase, “Poor soul.”

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BeachDem  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:27:10pm

re: #90 MsJ

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And my final contribution on Trump after tonight:

Never Gonna Be President Now

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Tigger2  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:28:29pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:34:19pm

re: #82 whitebeach

I’ll have what he’s smokin.

He lives in southwest Colorado, nearest “big town” is Durango, CO, which is the town I was born in.

As far as what he’s smokin’, cannabis has been more or less legal in Colorado for 16 years. It’s *REALLY* legal these days after the passage of Amendment 64 in 2012. Long story short, I used to send my friend who carved those awesome pumpkins on weed runs at the dispensary. In those days only “carded” people could buy cannabis.

So yeah, people are smoking pot in Colorado.

…hee hee hee…

:)

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:39:19pm

re: #93 Tigger2

Honey, ain’t nobody touching your pole let alone riggin’ it!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:40:09pm

re: #91 majii

“When things don’t go as planned. #LMAO

To use a southern phrase, “Poor soul.”

Bless his heart.

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Tigger2  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:48:11pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:56:42pm

paranoid late nite

i fear trump will get us all wound up defending the integrity of american elections, only to have putin steal the election for him

and then if we question it, he’ll be all “hey you guys were the ones who were so indignant about anybody daring to not accept the people’s will!”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:57:59pm

re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I am concerned about Putin attempting to steal the election for Trump too.

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ozharas  Oct 19, 2016 • 11:59:44pm

Thanks for the music share BTW - I really only knew Mahalia as Jimmy’s daughter - amazing singer.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:03:29am
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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:04:40am

re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

paranoid late nite

i fear trump will get us all wound up defending the integrity of american elections, only to have putin steal the election for him

and then if we question it, he’ll be all “hey you guys were the ones who were so indignant about anybody daring to not accept the people’s will!”

I’ve had those issues exact thoughts. We have voting machines without paper trails and technology can be hacked.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:04:52am

re: #99 Ziggy_TARDIS

I am concerned about Putin attempting to steal the election for Trump too.

well i console myself that it would be difficult to target enuf of the hundreds of precincts and besides the old pros used to say ‘you cant steal a landslide’ but still who knows

can you get in your tardis and check out the headlines on nov 9th for us?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:07:03am

re: #102 MsJ

I’ve had those issues exact thoughts. We have voting machines without paper trails and technology can be hacked.

as a pgmr i think we should demand that the voting machine code be open source and subject to independant testing in place before voting

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:08:23am

re: #104 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as a pgmr i think we should demand that the voting machine code be open source and subject to independant testing in place before voting

They won’t. It’s proprietary software.

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:14:17am

So nice to wake up to the smell of victory.

Seems like I haven’t missed anything again.

Look at his face when he says “no puppet, no puppet”. Somebody should make a Vine or something.

Presidential Debate Hillary gets under Donald’s skin

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:22:41am

re: #106 Nyet

True,. but we still have to worry about Putin’s Russia tampering with the election via hacking and data manipulation.

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:23:05am
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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:23:38am

re: #107 Ziggy_TARDIS

I didn’t think the voting machines are connected to the internet?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:25:14am

Ok, a bit more relaxed after finding this statement by the DHS.

Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.

Nevertheless, DHS continues to urge state and local election officials to be vigilant and seek cybersecurity assistance from DHS. A number of states have already done so. DHS is providing several services to state and local election officials to assist in their cybersecurity. These services include cyber “hygiene” scans of Internet-facing systems, risk and vulnerability assessments, information sharing about cyber incidents, and best practices for securing voter registration databases and addressing potential cyber threats. DHS has convened an Election Infrastructure Cybersecurity Working Group with experts across all levels of government to raise awareness of cybersecurity risks potentially affecting election infrastructure and the elections process. Secretary Johnson and DHS officials are working directly with the National Association of Secretaries of State to offer assistance, share information, and provide additional resources to state and local officials.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:26:41am

re: #109 Nyet

You are right. I just found a DHS statement. In regards to what can be done after the election to Russia, couldn’t the US ban any food being produced in the US getting exported to Russia?

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:28:59am

re: #111 Ziggy_TARDIS

You are right. I just found a DHS statement. In regards to what can be done after the election to Russia, couldn’t the US ban any food being produced in the US getting exported to Russia?

Em, you’re late by a couple of years.
bloomberg.com

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Kragar  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:30:05am
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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:30:31am

Also, aren’t the two talking points

- voter fraud is not happening/election is not rigged
- someone can steal the election by electronic means

contradictory?

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:32:07am

re: #113 Kragar

He can have the Drudge victory, nobody else needs it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:49:17am

re: #45 Lidane

Krauthammer on Trump’s Refusal to Accept Election Results: ‘This is Political Suicide’

Just sitting down here in Central Europe…

So my thoughts are that whatever the outcome, DT will contest the results. Even if the GOP loses, he will seek to demonstrate that Hillary did not win fair and square, ergo, her election is at best tainted or at worst invalid.

This is what happens when the GOP nominates someone who finds himself exempt from the norms and rules that govern politics and human interaction.

Trumpian exceptionalism, so to speak.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:53:36am

re: #109 Nyet

I didn’t think the voting machines are connected to the internet?

How do they exchange information with each other and the central polling register?

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:54:39am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How do they exchange information with each other and the central polling register?

You tell me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:57:09am

re: #119 Nyet

You tell me.

smoke signals, I guess

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 12:58:10am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

smoke signals, I guess

Are you saying you agree with Trump that it’s not hard to rig your elections?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 1:00:06am

re: #121 Nyet

Are you saying you agree with Trump that it’s not hard to rig your elections?

No, I am just saying that I cannot describe the means or mechanism by which votes are tallied.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 1:20:15am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How do they exchange information with each other and the central polling register?

Data is manually entered into a database by the person counting votes based on what the machines report.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2016 • 1:28:55am
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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 1:32:35am

re: #123 Timothy Watson

And it can be checked and re-checked.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2016 • 1:32:57am
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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 1:33:57am

Russian opposition to Jill: we’re getting threatened, beaten, arrested, killed.

Jill: I know, right! I’m totes with you guys. It’s the same here in the US. For example, they didn’t even let me debate!

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 1:38:31am

Holy crap, I am glad I read the summary of the debate here.

My wife spent about an hour this afternoon at our ex-mayor’s house (the unofficial never Trump Republican). He is quite disillusioned about his party and strongly considering voting for no one in this election.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 1:57:46am

The walkback starts, but it’s already a conservative meme:

After initially warning of potential widespread voting fraud, Indiana’s secretary of state acknowledged that many of the thousands of altered registration records she flagged might just be residents rushing to correct their names or birth dates ahead of the election.

Republican Secretary of State Connie Lawson told The Associated Press she wanted Indiana State Police to investigate to ensure there was no widespread fraud after her office found a heavier than usual number of changes to voter registration records this election cycle.

“It’s very possible that because of heightened activity this year that many of those changes are changes that the individual made,” Lawson told the AP on Wednesday. “… That should give Indiana voters the comfort that we are vigilant and we are protecting their rights and the elections here are not rigged.”

wtop.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:17:50am

re: #128 Anymouse

Holy crap, I am glad I read the summary of the debate here.

My wife spent about an hour this afternoon at our ex-mayor’s house (the unofficial never Trump Republican). He is quite disillusioned about his party and strongly considering voting for no one in this election.

I am hoping that will be representative of a lot of semi-sane Republicans.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:23:16am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am hoping that will be representative of a lot of semi-sane Republicans.

My brother was being coy yesterday, but he essentially admitted voting for Clinton and the Democratic candidate for Congress via absentee yesterday.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:28:03am
For the eighth straight October, the National Football League has gone pink. Players wear pink gloves, cleats, hats and towels. Referees blow pink whistles. The league drops a pink ribbon beneath its shield on game-used footballs. All of these displays are part of the league’s partnership with the American Cancer Society to raise money and consciousness during breast cancer awareness month.

On many high school athletic fields, players also are going pink, incorporating the colored gear into uniforms and sideline gear and apparel. Retailers have responded by pushing the pink gear front and center on store floor space and websites.

But don’t judge the purchase by its color: Aside from specifically licensed merchandise bearing the NFL pink ribbon shield logo, pink gear sales usually do not benefit any breast cancer-affiliated causes. That means much of what is worn at the youth level is a fashion statement more than a philanthropic effort — whether athletes and their parents know it or not.

washingtonpost.com

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:30:07am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am hoping that will be representative of a lot of semi-sane Republicans.

Well, as a village trustee, I do not feel it is appropriate for me to encourage people not to vote, even in this R+omygod district.

My wife on the other hand, is not me. If she wants to go out and encourage others to vote for Clinton, McMullin or Johnson (which she suggested to him), or Stein (which he laughed at), I am not going to get in her way.

In the meantime, our ballots arrived in the mail this afternoon. We will spend tomorrow researching all the Republicans on the ballot (no Democrats here other than Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Kaine), and decide which ones we won’t vote for.

Also, there should be a few referenda on the ballot as well. (The reinstate the death penalty referendum gets an automatic no from me, though I will check the wording first to ensure no doesn’t mean yes.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:37:28am

re: #133 Anymouse

Well, as a village trustee, I do not feel it is appropriate for me to encourage people not to vote, even in this R+omygod district.

Let them go and vote, just leave the presidential choice blank rather than vote for DT…

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:40:51am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Let them go and vote, just leave the presidential choice blank rather than vote for DT…

Well, like Oregon, we have mail only balloting. (The state argues in our vast empty rural areas, mail balloting is more cost efficient than running polling stations, though in our village they used to run a polling station with local village residents as judges and poll watchers in the fire hall.)

On mail balloting, it is almost as if the GOP is only concerned about non-existent in-person voter fraud in places where elections might be close. In places like my state with its overwhelming Republican base, the state makes it as easy as possible to vote.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:42:06am

re: #40 whitebeach

Can you imagine Trump calling Angela Merkel a nasty woman during an international gathering? He is an embarrassment of epic proportions. I’m not even Republican but feel ashamed that that Party has fallen so low.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:43:34am

re: #135 Anymouse

On mail balloting, it is almost as if the GOP is only concerned about non-existent in-person voter fraud in places where elections might be close. In places like my state with its overwhelming Republican base, the state makes it as easy as possible to vote.

Yes, their concern with “election fraud” is rather selective.

And if increased voter participation and registration is an overall net-loss proposition for the GOP, what does that say about their party, their message and their constituency?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:44:04am

‘Morning, all. Watched the shitshow here, but don’t listen and type well at the same time. I claim the Lizard Prescience Award for this cheap’n easy prediction of yesterday afternoon:

It’s always possible that Trump will slam into the wall and go cartwheeling in flames while his tires spin into the helpless spectators.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:45:48am
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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:48:29am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, their concern with “election fraud” is rather selective.

And if increased voter participation and registration is an overall net-loss proposition for the GOP, what does that say about their party, their message and their constituency?

I occasionally have the tax argument with my wife as well (she hasn’t quite given up all her Libertarian Party positions), most notably a flat tax.

She pointed out to our ex-mayor this afternoon if you wanted to hear a real debate between a liberal and a libertarian, just come round our house in the evening and stand round the windows. LOL

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:50:37am

Yesterday I called out the serious discrepancy that has evolved in the IEM and PredictIt electronic betting results. After the debate, it got only worse. IEM is selling Trump at 9 cents, he’s 18 cents on PredictIt. That market is either self-hypnotized by its partisan commenters or it’s being manipulated. The split makes no profit-scoring sense.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:52:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:53:34am

re: #140 Anymouse

There are many reasons for taxes beyond the basic one of raising revenues to operate a government.

There is the one about restricting or limiting undesirable behavior, like a cigarette or alcohol tax, and there is the process of subsidizing desirable behavior, such as tax exemptions for mortgage interest or renewable energies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:55:30am

re: #142 Dave In Austin

Trump’s foreign policy answers sound like a book report from a teenager who hasn’t read the book. “Oh, the grapes! They had so much wrath!”

He has made it clear that he is just going to surround himself with experts, the best experts, who will handle piddling details like relations with Ubeki-bekistan while he concentrates on the big picture, namely Making America Great again.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 2:59:38am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are many reasons for taxes beyond the basic one of raising revenues to operate a government.

There is the one about restricting or limiting undesirable behavior, like a cigarette or alcohol tax, and there is the process of subsidizing desirable behavior, such as tax exemptions for mortgage interest or renewable energies.

Excessive government overreach! Where is all that in the II Amendment?

Fact checking Mr. Trump’s claims on abortion:

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:02:19am

Some brave researchers published a paper on an analysis of II Amendment rights as discussed on Twitter a year after Sandy Hook (a bit long):

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:02:51am

re: #145 Anymouse

Abortions all involve pulling screaming babies out of their mothers, chopping them up and selling the parts to pay for a new sports car.

End of discussion.

/

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:05:53am

Something like Sarah Palin pardoning a turkey whilst turkey slaughter continues in the background?

Gov. Palin pardons turkey at turkey slaughter

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:11:08am

For those feeling twitchy because of possible external influences on the voting and counting process: the Carter Center has issued a statement about the integrity of the American electoral system. While it is aimed at Trump, the integrity wouldn’t be possible if the system is not protected against hacking, so this means that the CC experts are also pretty sure about that aspect too.

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:12:16am

re: #148 Anymouse

God willing, next year Trump will be applying for a pardon.
😉

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:12:17am

re: #81 teleskiguy

Is it your birthday wheatdogg?

Not until January

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:13:53am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:16:24am

re: #142 Dave In Austin

Thus began the hashtag #TrumpBookReports.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:18:57am
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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:21:26am

There are six states — Ohio, Arizona, Iowa, Florida, North Carolina and Nevada — that appear on at least 80 percent of Trump’s victory maps. It’s very, very difficult to imagine a win for Trump if he doesn’t win all of these: A Trump win without Ohio occurs less than 1 percent of the time in the model simulations, and a win without Nevada only about 2 percent of the time. There are six more states that appear on around half or more of the victory maps, and these are a bit interesting: Minnesota appears more often than Pennsylvania, but in fairness Pennsylvania is rather definitively far out of Trump’s reach, whereas there is more uncertainty in Minnesota given slightly scanter polling.

More at 538, with what the map might have to look like to cough up a Trump victory:

fivethirtyeight.com

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:23:26am

Another wingnut: I don’t wear a flag pin either, I wear a Gold Star Family pin:

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:26:17am
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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:30:06am

Anthony Zurcher at the BBC eviscerates Mr. Trump’s performance:

bbc.com

He had to position himself as the change candidate - just days after a Fox poll showed that Hillary Clinton, whose party has held the presidency for eight years, was beating him on the question of who would “change the country for the better”.

Instead, after roughly half an hour of something resembling an actual policy debate about the Supreme Court, gun rights, abortion and even immigration, the old Donald Trump - the one who constantly interrupted his opponent, sparred with the moderator and lashed out at enemies real and perceived - emerged.

He called Mrs Clinton a liar and a “nasty woman”.

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:32:11am

I’ve already written this once but it bears repeating. It’s sad (SAD!) that it has come to this kind of an election, the lowest of the low, but there is silver lining: people taking sides. The mainstream American left being strongly anti-Putin is just great. So is seeing the likes of Greenwald, Snowden and Ass. either totally discredited or at least severely diminished in their eyes. The choices are clearer than never before.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:40:09am

re: #159 Nyet

I’ve already written this once but it bears repeating. It’s sad (SAD!) that it has come to this kind of an election, the lowest of the low, but there is silver lining: people taking sides. The mainstream American left being strongly anti-Putin is just great. So is seeing the likes of Greenwald, Snowden and Ass. either totally discredited or at least severely diminished in their eyes. The choices are clearer than never before.

Well, presuming a Clinton victory on Election Day, the GOP will be faced with a choice in their post-election report:

a) Take up the 2008 and 2012 reports that both said they need to broaden their appeal to minorities, youth, &c, or
b) Move further right into irrelevance.

Ex-Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana said the GOP needed to stop being the stupid party. Do they have it in ‘em?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:44:55am

re: #159 Nyet

I’ve already written this once but it bears repeating. It’s sad (SAD!) that it has come to this kind of an election, the lowest of the low, but there is silver lining: people taking sides.

I noticed that a lot of people finally started to pay attention to how the US party primary system (if you can call it that) works (or fails to).

It came as a surprise when a lot of people who had registered independent showed up to vote for Bernie (who was an independent before he ran as a Democrat) showed up to vote in a closed primary and were not allowed.

There was no rigging or manipulation involved, the rules had long been in place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:45:25am

re: #160 Anymouse

Ex-Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana said the GOP needed to stop being the stupid party. Do they have it in ‘em?

No. They have demonstrated that repeatedly.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:49:53am

I can’t wait for new updates to Sam Wang’s polling maps:

270towin.com

(Okay, so I am a numbers geek.)

Right now, Prof. Wang has Hillary Clinton at 273 safe electoral votes, 29 leaning, 32 barely.

In the barely column for Trump he has GA, SC, TX, IA, and AK; and Ohio as a toss-up.

Taking TX and GA away from the GOP would be a wonderful dream come true and an utter repudiation of them putting up a fascist for a nominee.

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:52:00am

re: #159 Nyet

*ever, but it’s next to impossible to edit something at LGF with my mobile phone, I get redirected to the main page when clicking on ding buttons, edit button etc.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:52:45am

re: #164 Nyet

*ever, but it’s next to impossible to edit something at LGF with my mobile phone, I get redirected to the main page when clicking on ding buttons, edit button etc.

You need to do what we do here: Use a dial phone. /s

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:53:23am

re: #160 Anymouse

Bobby said that and then tried to make it even stupider.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:56:22am

More from that BBC article:

Even the immigration discussion started reasonably civilly, until Clinton pivoted to turn a question about WikiLeaks into an attack on Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia and Vladimir Putin.

At that point, interrupting Trump returned. He called Hillary Clinton a liar and after she called him a Russian puppet, he said that was in fact her. By the time the topic turned to “fitness to be president,” the stage was set for a total meltdown. He said the women who has accused him of sexual harassment were in it for the fame and Clinton campaign stooges.

Perhaps most remarkable, however, was when moderator Chris Wallace asked Mr Trump to support the election results, no matter how they came out. He refused to do so. He accused the media of poisoning people’s minds. He said Mrs Clinton shouldn’t have been allowed to run for president. It was Mr Trump in a bunker, settling scores and lashing out at enemies real and perceived.

Brits don’t vote in our elections!!11!1uno2!!!eleventy!!2!1

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 3:56:28am

re: #164 Nyet

*ever, but it’s next to impossible to edit something at LGF with my mobile phone, I get redirected to the main page when clicking on ding buttons, edit button etc.

I have the same problem.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:01:10am

Ohio may drop into the Democratic column:

A federal district court ruled Wednesday night that Ohio must allow […] anyone purged since 2011 as well as anyone who has moved within the same county will be able vote.

…Ohio’s Republican Secretary of State John Husted violated the National Voter Registration Act by purging nearly 2 million voters from its rolls over the past five years.

thinkprogress.org

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:08:50am

an observation two commenters made:

- “I dont know which headline is worse, grabbing women at will or refusing to accept the democratic will of the people.”

— “Both involve disregarding the will of people and violating their rights”

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boredtechindenver  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:09:20am

Watching Bill Kristol calling out Morning Joe for all the early tongue jacking of the Troompa-loompa, and Morning Joe trying to defend himself, while Mika sits there…I love the taste of their tears.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:11:13am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:18:28am

i saw a couple of pundit reviews that say trump won, somehow.

they were so disconnected they read like they were written before the debate actually happened.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:19:28am

re: #173 dangerman

i saw a couple of pundit reviews that say trump won, somehow.

they were so disconnected they read like they were written before the debate actually happened.

easily done since that outcome was clear from the very outset…

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:21:16am

Today is international sloth day!
Meet baby Flash.
I hope she lives up to his name…

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:22:55am

re: #160 Anymouse

Well, presuming a Clinton victory on Election Day, the GOP will be faced with a choice in their post-election report:

a) Take up the 2008 and 2012 reports that both said they need to broaden their appeal to minorities, youth, &c, or
b) Move further right into irrelevance.

Ex-Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana said the GOP needed to stop being the stupid party. Do they have it in ‘em?

they’ll commission a new autopsy. it will read “see previous report.”

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:23:04am
Here’s your America Kinda Sucks But Kinda Not Entirely story for the day: An awful bigot in Minnesota has pleaded guilty to attacking a Somali woman with a beer mug last year, severely cutting her face, because the Somali woman had committed the unpardonable offense of speaking Swahili in the US Patriot lady’s presence. That’s the America Sucks Sometimes part. The Not Entirely part is that people who were as horrified as you and we are by the attack contributed over $10,000 to help the victim, Asma Mohamed Jama, and even the assailant’s own sister is disgusted by the crime: she came to court to support not her sister, but Ms. Jama.

More at Wonkette on the Somali immigrant hit in the face.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:27:13am

Apparently Madonna is pro Hillary!

Madonna is pledging to perform oral sex on voters who cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton.

The pop queen, known for her shocking antics, made the remark Tuesday while opening for comedian Amy Schumer in New York.

I hope she takes her teeth out

//

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:27:17am

re: #172 Anymouse

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still it must be said

shes projected at somewhere between 85-95% to win
trump has not once led electorally, not even one day

and somehow her “smile” is going to turn all that over?

delete your newspaper indeed

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:35:39am

re: #178 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Apparently Madonna is pro Hillary!

I hope she takes her teeth out

//

Katy Perry on Funny or Die said she would use her naked body as click bait to get people to go out and vote:

FunnyOrDie Video

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:44:24am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:46:38am

re: #181 Anymouse

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He clearly said it and his cult loves him for it.

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Anymouse  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:48:41am

Well, I am off to bed. Something about sleep or something. Elbow hurts. Sun coming up. Cat demanding I get in bed so he can keep warm under the covers, that sort of thing.

G’night y’all (or is that good morning?)

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Lancelot Link  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:50:05am

re: #44 Dave In Austin

“Bad hombres” + “Nasty Women” = “An especially good time at the tavern tonight”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:50:21am

re: #181 Anymouse

Joe NBC as Trump surrogate, apologist, “He never said he won’t accept result. Media is making a leap!”

This is DT’s great strength: he does not speak in sentences, he speaks in Rorschach blobs that people can view however they want.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:50:48am

re: #181 Anymouse

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@JoeNBC as #Trump surrogate, apologist, “He never said he won’t accept result. #Media is making a leap!” @MSNBC

NYT, washington post, wall st journal, cnn, msnbc, reuters

i guess they all got it wrong and that only took 30 seconds

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boredtechindenver  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:51:27am

Kellyanne has aged 10 years in her time with the Trump campaign.

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 4:53:02am

Great news! Leave for the election week was approved in spite of the fact that it’s a stocktake all-hands-on-deck week! Woot!
2/3rds through the debate and I’m feckin’ stoked :D

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Dr. Matt  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:03:46am

re: #186 dangerman

NYT, washington post, wall st journal, cnn, msnbc, reuters

i guess they all got it wrong and that only took 30 seconds

Dead Intern Joe is lashing out at the “elite media” while pretending he’s not part of this said elite media. He’s such a pathetic Trump cabana boy. He’s spent the entire week “outraged” how the media has treated orange hitler and his deplorable followers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:03:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:05:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:08:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:12:07am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:12:36am

re: #184 Lancelot Link

“Bad hombres” + “Nasty Women” = “An especially good time at the tavern tonight”

2/3rds of a Marty Robbins song.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:15:38am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Didn’t know this. RNC is bound by consent to desist from “poll watching” activities, particularly in minority dists

For clarity: It’s only blocked from bogus “poll watching”. Real poll watching, with limited watchers certified by each party, is still the norm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:24:58am

re: #194 Decatur Deb

2/3rds of a Marty Robbins song.

add a gunfight and you have it wrapped up

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:26:47am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

For clarity: It’s only blocked from bogus “poll watching”. Real poll watching, with limited watchers certified by each party, is still the norm.

They mean “voter intimidation”, not “poll watching”.

And a few punch-ups in or near polling places will lead to big media f*ckfest and give them a great starting point for endless claims of irregularities, fraud and manipulation.

Which I expect to continue for weeks/months.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:33:43am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They mean “voter intimidation”, not “poll watching”.

And a few punch-ups in or near polling places will lead to big media f*ckfest and give them a great starting point for endless claims of irregularities, fraud and manipulation.

Which I expect to continue for weeks/months.

Yeah, but I didn’t want the (reporter’s?) use of the term to be widespread. If they pull any significant physical crap it will likely produce a lot of revulsion among the sane electorate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:37:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:38:32am
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Dr. Lexus  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:40:18am

Fuck, I get back to work today and find out my boss retired. I don’t think I can take another churn. Calgon take me away!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:41:04am

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Yeah, but I didn’t want the (reporter’s?) use of the term to be widespread. If they pull any significant physical crap it will likely produce a lot of revulsion among the sane electorate.

DT has already done a lot to rile up violent sentiment at his rallies, would not be surprised to see that some of his more “passionate” supporters turned to “extreme measures” to defend the rights they feel are being threatened.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:43:47am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DT has already done a lot to rile up violent sentiment at his rallies, would not be surprised to see that some of his more “passionate” supporters turned to “extreme measures” to defend the rights they feel are being threatened.

Better now than later.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:43:57am

I can only think that HRC is holding the rape case of that 13yr old in her back pocket for the last week of the race if she needs it. I don’t think she will because I think this thing is all over except for the fat lady singing.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:44:51am

Unreal. Pathetic douche bags. Fuck this family.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:45:31am
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:49:05am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:54:26am

re: #207 Belafon

Game.Set.Match

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:56:17am

I knew there was something………

And this was it.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:56:45am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Tiffany looks like she’s having a blast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 5:58:40am
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BadgerB  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:01:16am

The blew my mind and but nobody else seemed to think it a big deal moment of the night:From the Vox Transcript:

Trump: … Douglas MacArthur, George Patton spinning in their graves when they see the stupidity of our country. So we’re now fighting for mosul that we had. All she had to do is stay there. Now we’re going in to get it. But you know who is big winner in mosul is going to be after we eventually get it? And the only reason they did it is because she is running for the office of president, and they want to look tough. They want to look good.

He violated the red line in the sand. And he made so many mistakes. Made all mistakes. That’s why we have the great migration. But she wanted to look good for the election. So they’re going in.

Later on she calls him on it -

Clinton: … I’m just amazed that he seems to think that the Iraqi government and our allies and everybody else launched the attack on mosul to help me in this election. But that’s how Donald thinks, you know.

So the Republican candidate for President just charged that the timing of the attack on Mosul, the largest offensive action against ISIS to date, was scheduled to interfere with his Presidential campaign, and it wasn’t even note worthy moments enough to get a call out from the press?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:03:26am

re: #212 BadgerB

The blew my mind and but nobody else seemed to think it a big deal moment of the night:From the Vox Transcript:

Later on she calls him on it -

So the Republican candidate for President just charged that the timing of the attack on Mosul, the largest offensive action against ISIS to date, was scheduled to interfere with his Presidential campaign, and it wasn’t even note worthy moments enough to get a call out from the press?

He thinks Wag the Dog was a documentary.

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b.d.  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:05:06am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

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Unreal. Pathetic douche bags. Fuck this family.

I am starting to think that this entire campaign is one big attempt to make Mitt Romney’s kids look better in hindsight, it’s working.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:05:52am

Another moment in the debate last night that stood out for me was when Wallace asked the question about Aleppo and donald’s immediate response was to yell at Wallace: “Have you seen Aleppo? Have you SEEN Aleppo? HAVE YOU SEEN ALEPPO????”

To me that indicated that trump had heard the word “Aleppo” (perhaps as part of his “debate prep”) but had no clue as to what it meant. And he only called it a humanitarian crisis after Wallace said those words. From that point on, it was nothing but argle bargle.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:08:44am

re: #212 BadgerB

The blew my mind and but nobody else seemed to think it a big deal moment of the night:From the Vox Transcript:

Later on she calls him on it -

So the Republican candidate for President just charged that the timing of the attack on Mosul, the largest offensive action against ISIS to date, was scheduled to interfere with his Presidential campaign, and it wasn’t even note worthy moments enough to get a call out from the press?

Says we’re not doing enough to combat ISIS, but when we do, it’s for the benefit of the D candidate for president, and not part of any overall strategy for the area. Right. Oh, and we should do a sneak attack! But we are too stupid to do it! All the generals say so!

This would be the #1 talker if not for #IllKeepYouInSuspense.

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:09:37am

Having to navigate the various expectations placed before her, Clinton was controlled, prepared, forceful and spontaneous in just the right places. I was leaping out of my seat at nearly every falsehood Trump spouted whereas Clinton remained calm. I think the only behavioural coaching she’s needed was nodding whilst listening, which against Trump might be construed as assent. In this totally superficial sense she displayed control. Her responses, even while alluding to points made several questions before and therefore seemed to stray from the topic at hand, were focussed and ended up relevant.
I can’t critique her. I could actually see her, in her responses, debating a far abler opponent.
So when Trump opened his mouth, the distinction couldn’t have been more stark.

There were times when I could see the rudiments of a coaching effort in Trump’s responses but his ego wrecked any consistency and the point of one riposte would be dulled by his inability to remove himself from the equation.

It was a master-class of baiting and counter-striking that I often felt off-balance suddenly such was the sudden strength of even a little interjection, namely when Trump began to spruik one of his hotels offhandedly, as his wont, and Clinton needled him with his use of cheap Chinese steel.

Full marks. Clinton didn’t even dull her blade.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:09:41am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cue The Addams Family theme…snap, snap…

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:11:57am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another moment in the debate last night that stood out for me was when Wallace asked the question about Aleppo and donald’s immediate response was to yell at Wallace: “Have you seen Aleppo? Have you SEEN Aleppo? HAVE YOU SEEN ALEPPO????”

To me that indicated that trump had heard the word “Aleppo” (perhaps as part of his “debate prep”) but had no clue as to what it meant. And he only called it a humanitarian crisis after Wallace said those words. From that point on, it was nothing but argle bargle.

He was clearly trying to be seen to avoid the Johnson pitfall of ignorance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:12:16am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

The Presidency would be a “step down” for DT in that he would no longer be the sole decision maker and unquestioned head of the entire operation of governing the USA.

He would have to negotiate and work within an establish system to accomplish things and would not have the option of just declaring bankruptcy and walking away from it all if it fails.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:14:27am

a commenter at redstate (my mouse slipped)

on trump:

“Even when he’s sedated to the point that his behavior isn’t acutely embarrassing he is painfully inept.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:14:44am

re: #212 BadgerB

So the Republican candidate for President just charged that the timing of the attack on Mosul, the largest offensive action against ISIS to date, was scheduled to interfere with his Presidential campaign, and it wasn’t even note worthy moments enough to get a call out from the press?

The press itself would have to figure out what was happening there and then have the onerous task of explaining it to their audience. Forget it, let’s talk about Hillary’s panstuit.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:15:48am

re: #213 Decatur Deb

He thinks Wag the Dog was a documentary.

has anybody seen dustin hoffman lately?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:17:18am

THIS IS FINE

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:17:32am

HRC had a ton of great moments. Trumps utterly best moment? “Not a puppet not a puppet” was actually his best line. Sad.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:18:25am

Could it be that Trump has lost the New York Post?
Man, now that’s a poor debate performance…

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:18:33am

So Hilz did OK last night, huh?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:18:38am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

He’s become a local hero in Hong Kong, even though there were other customers there too.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:19:19am

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

When you lose the NYPost…..

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:19:45am

re: #225 Great White Snark

HRC had a ton of great moments. Trumps utterly best moment? “Not a puppet not a puppet” was actually his best line. Sad.

That was amazing. Projection distilled to a sweet sweet syrup. And totally ineffective.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:20:17am

re: #225 Great White Snark

HRC had a ton of great moments. Trumps utterly best moment? “Not a puppet not a puppet” was actually his best line. Sad.

Right after he argued with Clinton *and* Wallace about Russian involvement in the elections. lol

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jeffreyw  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:22:07am

Imgur


Good morning!

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:22:28am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Looks like Trump fans are still doing their best to deny reality that Clinton engaged in what’s effectively a flawless victory against Trump last night.

Mortal Kombat X: Fastest win ever online - Flawless Victory! (Sonya Blade Demolition)

Only slightly less gory than that video, but it should decidedly end all claims that Trump had any chance of a comeback with a strong 3d debate performance.

Trump continued lying about everything. Fact checkers are still catching up with the tsunami of Trump turd droppings.

And that doesn’t even get into the biggest issues of the night - Trump saying Hillary is a nasty woman under his breath as Clinton was talking, or that Trump wouldn’t abide by 240 years of history and accept the results (leave us all in suspense?).

Trump again shows why he’s spectacularly unqualified to be president, but that’s the same reason that his supporters love him. They love someone just as ignorant and bigoted as they are. They think that Trump will help them (mostly angry white guys who aren’t millionaires who inherited their fortunes) reverse the gains made by minorities to have equal rights at long last.

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:22:34am

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

I LOLed in real life as he seemed to resign himself in slow motion to playing the buffoon in responding to that.
It was like, ‘this whole shitshow will have been worth it if I set the record straight on that.’
Whilst playing into his opponent’s hands!

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Joe Bacon  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:22:58am

ROTFLMAO! Somebody hijacked a Dilbert strip from Trumpette Scott Adams!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:23:00am

re: #232 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Not fair making me crave fish and chips at 8 in the morning!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:23:47am

re: #212 BadgerB

This is pretty amazing.

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:25:19am

re: #234 Alyosha

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:26:07am

one more from redstate - it’s scathing:

mareeder • 8 hours ago
I don’t care if you lower the bar to China; I don’t see any way in Hell Donald Trump “won” any portion of this debate. Even on those occasions when he was actually right on the issues, such as the court, the second amendment and abortion, he was so inarticulate, incoherent and woefully uniformed that he lost the argument. That irks me even more; by his mere association with these conservative principles he degrades and discredits them.
The rest of the time, particularly on any question remotely touching on foreign policy, he was as wacky as a loon and couldn’t even form complete sentences. He got his ample butt handed to him on hiring foreign workers, using Chinese steel and failing to pay income taxes, and he continued to play Mortimer Snerd to Putin’s Edgar Bergen.
Stylistically there were times when my wife and I thought we were actually watching Alec Baldwin rather than the real Donald Trump. You could tell that from about 30 minutes in she had succeeded in getting under his skin to the point that he was seething and could not control himself; from the shouted interruptions, to the leaning into the microphone and saying “wrong” (usually when she had quoted him accurately), and that last, “such a nasty woman” business; the latter objection provoked by her second reference to his failure to pay income taxes, a point he had already conceded.
Then he tops it all off by refusing to say he will accept the results of the election (or more precisely teasing whether he will; probably to get one big final audience for his new Trump TV launch). Never mind the fact that he is also going to get killed by fact checkers tomorrow. He didn’t just lose this debate — he got run over by a diesel truck.

maybe i shoulda bolded the whole thing?

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:26:07am

Mini-Drumpf never stops:

Duterte says U.S. has lost, aligns Philippines with China

[…]

“America has lost now,” Duterte told Chinese and Philippine business people at a forum in the Great Hall of the People, attended by Chinese Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli.

“I’ve realigned myself in your ideological flow and maybe I will also go to Russia to talk to (President Vladimir) Putin and tell him that there are three of us against the world - China, Philippines and Russia. It’s the only way,” he added.

[…]

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:27:13am
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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:27:29am

re: #232 jeffreyw

What sort of fish is that? Suddenly dying of hunger.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:28:04am

re: #239 dangerman

Pretty awesome, even as telltale signs of “Conservatism has never failed, it has only been failed” begin to creep in.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:28:26am

re: #240 freetoken

Mini-Drumpf never stops:

Duterte says U.S. has lost, aligns Philippines with China

When is Obama announcing the suspension of the $120,000,000 in military aid a year?

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:28:52am

re: #240 freetoken

Have fun with your South China Sea territorial arbitration lolol

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:29:36am

The Now-Cast and the Polls-Only Cast at 538 are now identical—86.2%.

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:30:30am

Okay, I’m over-excited :) see y’all tomorrow

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:30:34am

re: #240 freetoken

Mini-Drumpf never stops:

Duterte says U.S. has lost, aligns Philippines with China

Mark my words, Duterte and the Philippines people will regret any alliance with China. They will end up as a satellite state.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:31:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:32:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:32:23am

re: #235 Joe Bacon

ROTFLMAO! Somebody hijacked a Dilbert strip from Trumpette Scott Adams!

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Scott Adams started to go MRA in his strip but backed off. I am glad, I generally enjoy it. As long as he keeps the storylines and situations in his strip well removed from his asinine political views, I hope to continue to find it funny and entertaining.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:33:26am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:34:20am

re: #115 Ziggy_TARDIS

Bad day for space exploration:

The ESA lost contact with the Martian Lander Schiaparelli, which may have crashed. Also, the JUNO probe around Jupiter had an unknown issue, and went into Safe Mode.

ET’s are tired of the invasion of their space and are fighting back?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:35:36am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rage Furby/WeSearchr tweeted something to the effect that Clinton had been preparing 30 years to be president and Trump only 1. His point was unclear, however.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:35:38am
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darthstar  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:36:31am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:36:54am

re: #253 Eventual Carrion

ET’s are tired of the invasion of their space and are fighting back?

Maybe it’s not just Europa that’s off limits now. Probably gonna build a wall around us to protect the rest of the galaxy.

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darthstar  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:37:18am

I’m just glad I don’t have to see them debate again…

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:37:23am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Have any of the Obama presidency books covered his relationship with Hillary Clinton? I’ve been curious for awhile if there’s a genuine friendship there or not…

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:38:19am

re: #239 dangerman

From the Redstater you quote:

I don’t care if you lower the bar to China; I don’t see any way in Hell Donald Trump “won” any portion of this debate. Even on those occasions when he was actually right on the issues, such as the court, the second amendment and abortion, he was so inarticulate, incoherent and woefully uniformed that he lost the argument. That irks me even more; by his mere association with these conservative principles he degrades and discredits them.

How could he be right if he was woefully uninformed, inarticulate, and incoherent that his argument made no sense. Oh, I guess if you’re anti-abortion, and your position is abortion is wrong, how you get there or justify it doesn’t actually matter. Gotcha.

But the reality is that the abortion issue and the 2A question reveal that Trump has zero understanding of the Supreme Court, how the law works, and how policy is done in the US. Saying that stuff gets left to the states if Roe is overturned ignores how that actually plays out - and that there’s a whole lot of court decisions that would end up with the matter right back at the Court (because under the law you can’t have split of authority among the circuits).

It also ignores that Trump’s line about how you can get an abortion up to a few days before the baby could be born. This ignores how biology actually works, and if the mother is in that situation, it’s called childbirth.

Late term abortion is a nonissue, mostly because so few are actually done - and when they are done, it’s to protect the life of the mother (a life in being). The GOP would rather see the mother die, to not put too fine a point on things. Forced birth at the expense of the mother.

And it’s not like Trump is an outlier on abortion in respect to the GOP. This is core doctrine. He’s just more explicit about things.

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darthstar  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:39:10am

re: #115 Ziggy_TARDIS

Bad day for space exploration:

The ESA lost contact with the Martian Lander Schiaparelli, which may have crashed. Also, the JUNO probe around Jupiter had an unknown issue, and went into Safe Mode.

Safe mode? Great…now someone has to fly out there with a shitload of floppy disks and reset the BIOS.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:39:37am

re: #248 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Mark my words, Duterte and the Philippines people will regret any alliance with China. They will end up as a satellite state.

So, you’re saying he ought to go with Putin instead!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:41:12am

re: #262 freetoken

So, you’re saying he ought to go with Putin instead!

Oh, mos def! //

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:41:28am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How do they exchange information with each other and the central polling register?

In my area of PA the votes are collected on storage devices (looks like an 8-track cartridge) on the polling machine and also on a SIM chip on each individual machine. At the end of the night the machines are closed down and the votes are collected on the cartridges. The cartridges and other pertinent paperwork are sealed (by the judge of elections, of which I served as for 4 years). The sealed package is then delivered to a municipal building where sheriff’s transport them to the county courthouse to the election officials. They are then tabulated there on another machine. I don’t worry so much about the actual poll machines as I am about the central tabulation machine. Only one machine to get to rather than hundreds of poll machines.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:42:03am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:45:58am

re: #142 Dave In Austin

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“That Gatsby, he was great.”

h/t to the late, great Rodney Dangerfield

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darthstar  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:47:00am

re: #265 The Vicious Babushka

Trump & Clinton mic drops with animation? OMG That’s so awesome! —said no one, ever.

I’ll be glad when 2017 comes around and ‘mic drop’ takes it’s proper place on the junk pile of forgotten expressions.

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darthstar  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:49:50am

One of my favorite parts of the debate last night was Hillary accusing Trump of espionage - talk about a not too subtle payback for the ‘you’ll be in jail’ comment from the last debate. She doesn’t let any slight go unanswered. Remember that.

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darthstar  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:52:19am

re: #268 darthstar

One of my favorite parts of the debate last night was Hillary accusing Trump of espionage - talk about a not too subtle payback for the ‘you’ll be in jail’ comment from the last debate. She doesn’t let any slight go unanswered. Remember that.

Here’s the quote, just in case anyone assumed I was full of shit:

Clinton: Well, that’s because he would rather have a puppet as president of the United States.
Trump: No puppet. You’re the puppet.
Clinton: It is pretty clear you won’t admit that the Russians have engaged in cyber attacks against the United States of America. That you encouraged espionage against our people. That you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do. And that you continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race. So I think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We’ve never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election. We have 17, 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin. And they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.

Read more: politico.com
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

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darthstar  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:54:14am

Fuck…gotta leave early for work today. BBL. Maybe…fucking busy with four projects on my shoulders right now and everyone wants their shit yesterday.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:54:25am

re: #269 darthstar

Here’s the quote, just in case anyone assumed I was full of shit:

Oh yeah, I saw her do that to him. The fucking asshole thinks he knows more than the intelligence agencies.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:54:33am

re: #269 darthstar

She wasn’t accusing him of engaging in espionage. She was accusing him of being a traitor. Heh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:55:22am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah, I saw her do that to him. The fucking asshole thinks he knows more than the intelligence agencies.

He also said that the intelligence agencies didn’t know anything.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:56:33am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

He also said that the intelligence agencies didn’t know anything.

Of course but he’s happy to constantly throw out the 200 generals and admirals that support him whenever his knowledge of military matters is questioned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:56:33am
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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2016 • 6:58:36am

Steve McPherson ‏@steventurous
“We’re gonna catch so much rye, you won’t believe it. We’re bringing those rye catching jobs to America.” #TrumpBookReport @AntonioFrench

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:00:14am

re: #276 Skip Intro

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:00:58am

Alice is hot. Maybe in ten years I will be dating her. Just grab her by the Cheshire Cat. Make Wonderland Great Again! #TrumpBookReport

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:02:09am

re: #260 lawhawk

How could he be right if he was woefully uninformed, inarticulate, and incoherent that his argument made no sense.

By accident.

I once won a “guess how many jelly beans in the jar” contest. My winning strategy was… not something that would be in any way useful to next year’s contestants.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:03:38am

Say it aint so Sheriff Joe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:03:41am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:04:48am

I’ve watched Trump at three debates now. It’s always the same sad crap. I’m great. Our coutnry sucks. Hillary sucks because she hasn’t been able to accomplish everything she’s wanted to in her career. I am to be trusted on military matters because 200 generals/admirals endorsed me and so did some CMOH winners. Generals MacArthur and Patton are spinning in their graves. Our leaders are stupid. Really. This guy is a fucking joke and in a sane world would lose every single state in this country but nope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:04:50am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:05:01am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:05:59am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:06:03am

re: #280 lawhawk

Say it aint so Sheriff Joe

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I think this is finally going to be the end of Sheriff Joe. I’m less optimistic about McCain joining him though which sucks because I had some optimism about that in the summer but at this moment, I’d be shocked if McCain lost.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:06:28am

re: #256 darthstar

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the biggest loser?

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:08:07am

Very frequently through this campaign we’ve said “Wow, these campaign ads just write themselves.” Well, that quite literally happened last night. These are almost verbatim responses.

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jeffreyw  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:08:19am

re: #242 Alyosha

What sort of fish is that? Suddenly dying of hunger.

That’s cod, I was going for as authentic as I knew how. Alas, my understanding of the dish comes from cooking shows and movies rather than personal experience.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:09:03am

good grief

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:09:38am

The refuge of the Trump nuts trying to defend Trump’s statement on refusing to accept the outcome of the election is Bush/Gore 2000.

Let’s revisit that one shall we? Which candidate won the popular vote? Which one needed the Supreme Court to decide how a state could run its recount process because they completely botched things? Who ultimately respected the outcome of both the Supreme Court case and the electoral college vote?

Trump ignores all of that and goes straight to the election being rigged against him and then leaving people wondering if he’d ever concede.

That’s an apples to unicorns comparison. And media types trying to make the analogy should have their credentials revoked for simply getting the facts and circumstances wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:10:39am

re: #288 Franklin

Very frequently through this campaign we’ve said “Wow, these campaign ads just write themselves.” Well, that quite literally happened last night. These are almost verbatim responses.

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Great ads. I’m impressed with how quick they are. She’s got a great team around her.

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:10:48am

re: #257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Maybe it’s not just Europa that’s off limits now. Probably gonna build a wall around us to protect the rest of the galaxy.

A big wall! A beautiful wall! And they’ll make sure WE pay for it!!!

Another point (assuming there ever was one) that I noticed has gotten lost in the backwash from last night’s shitshow was: what was the purpose of Trump’s inviting Pat Smith, Malik Obama, et. al. to the debate. Other than generating some Internet buzz, which seems to have had the usual effect (i.e. squat). I know he mentioned the “Angel Moms” once, but otherwise nothing. The Donald didn’t even bother to exploit the poor chumps in a presser (unless I missed it).

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:11:24am

re: #260 lawhawk

your analysis is spot on, of course.

they dont think this critically. they sift for buzz words, dog whistles, or other telegraphs or tells, and then just check off that box as done.

trump says “no” and “abortion” in same sentence. close enough for me

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:11:29am

re: #291 lawhawk

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The refuge of the Trump nuts trying to defend Trump’s statement on refusing to accept the outcome of the election is Bush/Gore 2000.

Let’s revisit that one shall we? Which candidate won the popular vote? Which one needed the Supreme Court to decide how a state could run its recount process because they completely botched things? Who ultimately respected the outcome of both the Supreme Court case and the electoral college vote?

Trump ignores all of that and goes straight to the election being rigged against him and then leaving people wondering if he’d ever concede.

That’s an apples to unicorns comparison. And media types trying to make the analogy should have their credentials revoked for simply getting the facts and circumstances wrong.

Such bullshit and Turdblossom knows it.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:12:08am

re: #261 darthstar

Safe mode? Great…now someone has to fly out there with a shitload of floppy disks and reset the BIOS.

when was it launched? do they need 5”, 8” or will 3.5” work?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:12:18am

re: #291 lawhawk

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:12:31am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:15:01am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

I’ve watched Trump at three debates now. It’s always the same sad crap. I’m great. Our coutnry sucks. Hillary sucks because she hasn’t been able to accomplish everything she’s wanted to in her career. I am to be trusted on military matters because 200 generals/admirals endorsed me and so did some CMOH winners. Generals MacArthur and Patton are spinning in their graves. Our leaders are stupid. Really. This guy is a fucking joke and in a sane world would lose every single state in this country but nope.

you hold back too much

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:16:13am

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

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#TrumpBookReport That MacDuff, he was a late term abortion, ripped from the womb

the crime dog?
(no dont correct me)

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Joe Bacon  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:17:29am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:17:36am

The claims that voter fraud is real because dead people are still on the polls is absolute crap too. I’ve worked for a Congressional office before. We still had dead constituents on our mailing list. It’s something that needs to be worked on obviously but it’s not proof that the dead are voting as Rudy Giuliani, Kayleigh, and Trump’s other surrogates desperately want to convince Trump’s delusional base.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:18:00am

There was War, so much war. Like I will bring. And Peace, so great. #TrumpBookReport

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:18:42am

re: #300 dangerman

the crime dog?
(no dont correct me)

Hehe, there’s a road in my county, McDuff Road, and I always misread it as McGruff.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:19:36am

Roger is too STONED to think in a rational matter…

mediamatters.org

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:21:15am

re: #291 lawhawk

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The refuge of the Trump nuts trying to defend Trump’s statement on refusing to accept the outcome of the election is Bush/Gore 2000.

Let’s revisit that one shall we? Which candidate won the popular vote? Which one needed the Supreme Court to decide how a state could run its recount process because they completely botched things? Who ultimately respected the outcome of both the Supreme Court case and the electoral college vote?

Trump ignores all of that and goes straight to the election being rigged against him and then leaving people wondering if he’d ever concede.

That’s an apples to unicorns comparison. And media types trying to make the analogy should have their credentials revoked for simply getting the facts and circumstances wrong.

further - neither candidate, nor anyone else really that i recall, claimed that election was “rigged”. and certainly not while the process was unfolding

poorly supervised, designed, counted, recounted, yeah.
rigged? i dont remember that

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:25:31am

re: #301 Joe Bacon

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@RogerJStoneJr Coming from an ass who believes that the moon landings were faked in a New Jersey studio…

look, everyone knows that’s bullshit.

the studio was in the desert

Capricorn One—the first manned mission to Mars—is on the launch pad. The bewildered crew of Brubaker (James Brolin), Willis (Sam Waterston), and Walker (O. J. Simpson) are removed from Capricorn One and flown to an abandoned desert base

oh, stone is going on about the moon
sorry, yeah he’s just an ass then

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Dr. Matt  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:26:41am

re: #305 Joe Bacon

Roger is too STONED to think in a rational matter…

mediamatters.org

He’s stoned from the government chemtrails!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:29:16am

re: #260 lawhawk

Late term abortion is a nonissue, mostly because so few are actually done - and when they are done, it’s to protect the life of the mother (a life in being). The GOP would rather see the mother die, to not put too fine a point on things. Forced birth at the expense of the mother.

The RWNJ tenets of faith on abortion:

1) abortions are for lascivious sluts seeking to escape the just consequences (i.e.punishment) for their sluttish behavior

2) all abortions are about ripping screaming babies from their mother, cutting them up and selling the pieces for a profit to pay for new sports cars

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:31:20am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:35:00am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:35:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:38:00am

re: #291 lawhawk

Trump ignores all of that and goes straight to the election being rigged against him and then leaving people wondering if he’d ever concede.

Their tactic is simple: they will insist and offer spurious and easily refuted “proof” that Hillary, despite her margin of victory, did not win fair and square and therefore her presidency is invalid.

They are just softening things up by uttering “rigged” over and over again so as to provide the necessary bias for confirmation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:40:44am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

wow…just wow.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:40:55am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart

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Uh huh, that’s why your Daddy keeps on crying rigged and fraud. By the way, Donald Jr, DiBlasio is going to beat you by even more than Hillary beats your Daddy.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:41:20am

re: #109 Nyet

I didn’t think the voting machines are connected to the internet?

The machines are not connected to the internet but they are card driven. And the last election showed that it was easy to slip a card into the machines. There were multiple reports on the news about machine manipulation in 2012.

This doesn’t have to happen across the country, but in key battleground places.

It’s not something that keeps me up at night, but it does worry me.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:42:01am

re: #110 Ziggy_TARDIS

And I would feel better if there was a paper trail on all electronic voting machines.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:42:39am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart

Running for president is a “step down” from Donald Trump’s business career, his son says

True, because a President has to negotiate and compromise, he can issue executive orders but must nonetheless work with an existing system of checks and balances. That is not DT’s style at all, nor would he easily adapt to it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:43:41am

I would go as far to say the Supreme Court was stacked for Bush in 2000 but I don’t think the election itself was rigged.

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Lancelot Link  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:44:56am

re: #301 Joe Bacon

@ RogerJStoneJr Coming from an ass who believes that the moon landings were faked in a New Jersey studio…

Could someone please introduce him to Buzz Aldrin?

Buzz Aldrin Punch

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:45:29am

re: #319 Eclectic Cyborg

I would go as far to say the Supreme Court was stacked for Bush in 2000 but I don’t think the election itself was rigged.

Rigged would imply that the outcome was decided long before the election. I don’t like what happened in 2000 but rigged it wasn’t. To be honest, while I’ve come to respect Gore as an elder statesman, I’m still disappointed with how he campaigned in 2000. That said, there was a lot of bullshit about how Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet and stupid shit like that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:45:34am

The stupid thing is if Trump wins handily he will claim the election is not rigged even though that’s a pretty damn clear sign it was.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:46:11am

re: #320 Lancelot Link

Could someone please introduce him to Buzz Aldrin?

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And still heavyweight champion of the moon………….Buzz Ald-rin!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:46:50am

I want be as badass as him when I’m that age.

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:47:43am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

I want be as badass as him when I’m that age.

I want to be as badass as him at MY age :)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:48:30am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

I want be as badass as him when I’m that age.

He’s such a cool dude. My elementary school was named after Neil but a nearby one was named after Buzz and he visited the school a couple times. He’s also appeared on the Simpsons. He just has fun with his celebrity. He really is one of our country’s finest living legends.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:48:49am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

wow…just wow.

Yeah, that’s definitely not an “I kicked her ass” expression…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:49:10am

re: #325 Franklin

I want to be as badass as him at MY age :)

Me too. The man’s old enough to be my grandpa but so much cooler than I am. Of course, anyone who’s been an astronaut is but Buzz is really really.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:49:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:49:16am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

I’m still disappointed with how he campaigned in 2000. That said, there was a lot of bullshit about how Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet and stupid shit like that.

Gore and Kerry were just not likable people, and that was visible in the way that negative statements stuck to them. The GOP tried the same approach with Obama, but he is to most people (except the most irascible bigots) a genuinely affable and admirable person, and the mud just slid right off him…

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:49:44am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

What’s in the picture?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:49:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:49:50am

re: #327 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, that’s definitely not an “I kicked her ass” expression…

That piece of paper in his hands…yowser!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:50:34am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gore and Kerry were just not likable people, and that was visible in the way that negative statements stuck to them. The GOP tried the same approach with Obama, but he is to most people (except the most irascible bigots) a genuinely affable and admirable person, and the mud just slid right off him…

Oh I know. It’s too bad really because I think both guys would have made good Presidents. Not nearly as charismatic as Obama but intelligent and capable guys. There’s a reason why Obama made Kerry his SoS.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:51:52am

Wingnuts are touting the latest Rasmussen tracking poll which shows Drumpfskind pulling ahead of Clinton by 3 points:

rasmussenreports.com

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:52:01am

Happy to see consensus in the media on last night’s debate. Outside of shills like Morning Joke, everybody clearly sees that Trump got his ass handed to him yet again. I can’t wait to see the next round of polls.

And in local news here on LI - Nassau County executive Ed Mangano and his wife were arrested this morning on bribery charges.

It ain’t even noon yet, and it’s already a pretty good day.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:52:23am

re: #331 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

it’s gif of Trump basically cringing as he tears his notes from a pad at the end of the debate. As Clinton walked over to shake Chis Wallace’s hand.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:52:42am

re: #332 FormerDirtDart

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i think harry reid said last night any retraction or correction has to come from trump himself, out loud. not from a surrogate and not on paper

painted him into a corner

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Kilroy was here  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:53:04am

After last night a little reminder from friends

Tell America It’s Great

My wife calls my Canadian citizenship a safety net. After last night I don’t think we’ll need it.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:53:18am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gore and Kerry were just not likable people, and that was visible in the way that negative statements stuck to them. The GOP tried the same approach with Obama, but he is to most people (except the most irascible bigots) a genuinely affable and admirable person, and the mud just slid right off him…

Don’t forget that Gore ran from Clinton. That sealed the deal. A monumentally stupid move.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:53:32am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

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What is it?

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:54:06am

re: #316 MsJ

The machines are not connected to the internet but they are card driven. And the last election showed that it was easy to slip a card into the machines. There were multiple reports on the news about machine manipulation in 2012.

This doesn’t have to happen across the country, but in key battleground places.

It’s not something that keeps me up at night, but it does worry me.

Traditional Republican “election-rigging” is all about who gets to vote in the first place. Purging the rolls, misallocation of machines, weird ID laws.

I’m also a fan of the show “Scandal”. They were able to rig that election by rigging machines, but it was only workable because it was so super-close that everything came down to one county in Ohio. This year isn’t going to be anywhere near close enough to be stealable.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:54:56am

re: #336 makeitstop

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:55:10am

Drumpfskind has been doing pretty well with his base. We shouldn’t overlook that. Why the Rasmussen poll has for a week now been drifting in Drumpfskind’s favor is a bit of an outlier, but not something to ignore.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:55:12am

re: #336 makeitstop

Happy to see consensus in the media on last night’s debate. Outside of shills like Morning Joke, everybody clearly sees that Trump got his ass handed to him yet again. I can’t wait to see the next round of polls.

And in local news here on LI - Nassau County executive Ed Mangano and his wife were arrested this morning on bribery charges.

It ain’t even noon yet, and it’s already a pretty good day.

Puzzled by Morning Joke, who at some point appeared to be getting critical of Trump (maybe that was in the primaries when there were other Republicans he preferred), but in the past few months has retreated back into a Trump surrogate.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:55:17am

re: #341 Sir John Barron

What is it?

See #337

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:55:56am

re: #346 FormerDirtDart

See #337

Yup, thanks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:56:28am

re: #343 dangerman

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Ah, the South Shaw

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:57:32am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

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It’s really weird.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:57:37am

re: #342 sagehen

Traditional Republican “election-rigging” is all about who gets to vote in the first place. Purging the rolls, misallocation of machines, weird ID laws.

I’m also a fan of the show “Scandal”. They were able to rig that election by rigging machines, but it was only workable because it was so super-close that everything came down to one county in Ohio. This year isn’t going to be anywhere near close enough to be stealable.

for sane people.

for anyone else, her large lead everywhere is proof of manipulation

see: re: #335 freetoken

Wingnuts are touting the latest Rasmussen tracking poll which shows Drumpfskind pulling ahead of Clinton by 3 points:

rasmussenreports.com

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:58:20am

The whole wikileaks thing may be damaging Clinton.

Not that people really understand what is going on. I’m snobby enough to write that I suspect many Americans really don’t know what is going with wikileaks. The real story is entangled in intrigue that takes a lot of work to follow.

But the contents of the stolen email messages, while I find them pretty mundane, can be spun real easily, to make Clinton look bad. If a competent Republican was running I suspect Clinton would be the one whose campaign we would speak of as over.

But Drumpfskind is not a competent politician, he’s a reality TV star who only knows how to work his marks.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:59:18am

re: #335 freetoken

Wingnuts are touting the latest Rasmussen tracking poll which shows Drumpfskind pulling ahead of Clinton by 3 points:

rasmussenreports.com

Yeah, that’s pretty strange, even though Rasmussen has been biased R in the past.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:59:20am

re: #348 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ah, the South Shaw

i still got an accent?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 7:59:35am

re: #340 makeitstop

Don’t forget that Gore ran from Clinton. That sealed the deal. A monumentally stupid move.

He still got more votes than Bush, but the blowup over deporting young Elian Gonzales really cost him in Florida.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:00:34am

re: #351 freetoken

Still looking for that angle, aren’t you?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:00:49am

re: #340 makeitstop

Don’t forget that Gore ran from Clinton. That sealed the deal. A monumentally stupid move.

Yeah that’s what I mean. I also think Lieberman was a bad VP pick too. The Dems have gotten better with that though since Obama chose Biden and now Hillary chose Kaine. Edwards seemed like a good idea in 2004 but he proved to be a bad pick IMO even without the scandal that brought him down later.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:01:10am

re: #352 Sir John Barron

Well, the wingnuts are also touting that IBD poll which now has Drumpfskind up by 1, as it has for some time:

investors.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:01:24am

LOLOLOLOL!
It’s an op-ed by RWNJ Ed Rogers.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:01:28am

Another angle of #312
with music added…

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:02:10am

re: #357 freetoken

Well, the wingnuts are also touting that IBD poll which now has Drumpfskind up by 1, as it has for some time:

investors.com

Trump has never been ahead electorally. Not for one day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:02:23am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s what I mean. I also think Lieberman was a bad VP pick too. The Dems have gotten better with that though since Obama chose Biden and now Hillary chose Kaine. Edwards seemed like a good idea in 2004 but he proved to be a bad pick IMO even without the scandal that brought him down later.

I did not like Gore, but I really disliked Lieberman. Nothing to do with his religion, I just found him a sanctimonious little prick.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:03:50am

re: #360 dangerman

Trump has never been ahead electorally. Not for one day.

So, you’re saying that Clinton is going to steal the election from Drumpfskind because the Democratically controlled electoral college is doing Soros’ bidding, aren’t you?

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:04:47am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOLOLOLOL!
It’s an op-ed by RWNJ Ed Rogers.

Sure. For 20 minutes
he wasn’t totallyt abhorrent for 20 minutes
What stamina. What endurance poise self control. Gah

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:05:43am

re: #345 Sir John Barron

Puzzled by Morning Joke, who at some point appeared to be getting critical of Trump (maybe that was in the primaries when there were other Republicans he preferred), but in the past few months has retreated back into a Trump surrogate.

Yeah, I’m scratching my head over that, too.

I take it as some convoluted consideration of viewers and ratings. Scarborough must have seen some kind of ratings glitch after regaining his senses and lost them again as a business move. That’s the best explanation I can figure.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:05:54am

re: #362 freetoken

So, you’re saying that Clinton is going to steal the election from Drumpfskind because the Democratically controlled electoral college is doing Soros’ bidding, aren’t you?

I must’ve spelled it all wrong

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:06:15am

re: #351 freetoken

The whole wikileaks thing may be damaging Clinton.

Not that people really understand what is going on. I’m snobby enough to write that I suspect many Americans really don’t know what is going with wikileaks. The real story is entangled in intrigue that takes a lot of work to follow.

But the contents of the stolen email messages, while I find them pretty mundane, can be spun real easily, to make Clinton look bad. If a competent Republican was running I suspect Clinton would be the one whose campaign we would speak of as over.

But Drumpfskind is not a competent politician, he’s a reality TV star who only knows how to work his marks.

The right wing has pinned Clinton with missing emails, Benghazi, the Clinton Foundation, Vince Foster, Bill’s affairs, dead Haitians. None of them have any credibility or even factual basis, but it’s enough for ill-informed voters to conclude there’s something up, and they don’t trust her. At least one member of my family is convinced that Hillary will shatter the nation and begin a war with Russia, and he hates her with the heat of a thousand stars.

Add to that the Wikileaks BS, which is just a massive data dump with no real scandal contained within, and you’ve got more than enough to short out the brain circuits of the average, apolitical voter.

Yet, they practically worship a guy who has so many credible, factually based skeletons in his closet that he needs a warehouse to store them all. Why? Because he says what they want to hear, and because he’s not Hillary Clinton.

The GOP could have run an actual orangutan, and it would have still gained support from all the Hillary Haters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:06:24am

The jokes…they just write themselves:

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:06:31am

re: #364 makeitstop

Yeah, I’m scratching my head over that, too.

I take it as some convoluted consideration of viewers and ratings. Scarborough must have seen some kind of ratings glitch after regaining his senses and lost them again as a business move. That’s the best explanation I can figure.

A job at Trump TV?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:08:36am

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I did not like Gore, but I really disliked Lieberman. Nothing to do with his religion, I just found him a sanctimonious little prick.

Yeah it was a bad pick.

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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:08:55am

If these wikileaks came out in the primary, she still would have won. There is nothing to these emails other than the Russians are trying to mess in our elections. This won’t hurt her one bit.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:09:01am

re: #284 FormerDirtDart

That looks really cool.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:09:30am

re: #353 dangerman

i still got an accent?

Jeez, I could like heah it from heah, even!

When I was in HS and working on the school newspaper, our printer was in Freeport. We came down from the Nort’ Shaw for the paste-up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:09:55am

hahahahahahaaaaa

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:10:00am

re: #351 freetoken

The whole wikileaks thing may be damaging Clinton.

Not that people really understand what is going on. I’m snobby enough to write that I suspect many Americans really don’t know what is going with wikileaks. The real story is entangled in intrigue that takes a lot of work to follow.

But the contents of the stolen email messages, while I find them pretty mundane, can be spun real easily, to make Clinton look bad. If a competent Republican was running I suspect Clinton would be the one whose campaign we would speak of as over.

But Drumpfskind is not a competent politician, he’s a reality TV star who only knows how to work his marks.

Any damage is negligible at best, and confined to Bernie dead-enders and Trump cultists who desperately want something evil to be true.

When one of the featured emails is John Podesta’s tips on making fluffy risotto, it’s safe to assume that the hackers have gone to the well once too often.

Besides - Trump slit his own throat last night with the refusal to concede if he loses. Those lame emails are not even being mentioned today.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:10:57am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahaaaaa

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So Wallace was in on it?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:11:48am

Drumpf is now whining, yet again, that Hillary got the debate questions ahead of time last night.

I think he has said this after each of the three debates.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:11:58am

re: #375 dangerman

So Wallace was in on it?

RIGGED!!!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:11:58am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahaaaaa

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He is such a fuckin’ loser. She knew the answers because she studied for the test, Donny.

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:12:06am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

The jokes…they just write themselves:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:13:07am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahaaaaa

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Stop fucking whining already.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:13:09am

He’s going nuts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:13:10am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:13:30am

re: #378 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He is such a fuckin’ loser. She knew the answers because she studied for the test, Donny.

Obviously that’s cheating. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:13:56am

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

He’s going nuts.

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He sure whines a lot for somebody who claims he won.

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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:13:56am

If Hillary did get the questions in advance, why on fucking earth would she announce it??

I mean, he’s just so fucking stupid.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:14:06am

It’s a toss up between who complains more. Him or his idiot cult.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:14:15am

re: #372 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Jeez, I could like heah it from heah, even!

When I was in HS and working on the school newspaper, our printer was in Freeport. We came down from the Nort’ Shaw for the paste-up.

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I meant “southern” accent

The Lon guyland thing never goes away
I still ask for wauduh when I’m thirsty. (so I’m told)

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:15:05am

re: #376 Sir John Barron

Drumpf is now whining, yet again, that Hillary got the debate questions ahead of time last night.

I think he has said this after each of the three debates.

How possibly else could she sound so smart?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:15:44am

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

He sure whines a lot for somebody who claims he won.

Because he knows he didn’t win and no amount of online polling will change that. He’s such a toddler. Alpha male? Yeah if your idea of a tough guy is a pampered brat who doesn’t think he needs to prepare for debates and cries like a baby whenever someone does better than him. Real tough guy you got there Trump supporters.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:15:45am

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

He’s going nuts.

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Does Drumpf mean that Hillary got the debate topics ahead of time? Like when Fox announced publicly what the debate topics would be?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:16:33am

But Trump had many great guests at the debate. The best guests. Believe me.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:16:37am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

Because he knows he didn’t win and no amount of online polling will change that. He’s such a toddler. Alpha male? Yeah if your idea of a tough guy is a pampered brat who doesn’t think he needs to prepare for debates and cries like a baby whenever someone does better than him. Real tough guy you got there Trump supporters.

While also mocking the person who does study for the test.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:16:41am

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

He’s going nuts.

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Why didn’t Hillary Clinton announce that she was inappropriately given the debate questions - she secretly used them! Crooked Hillary.

yeah. cause when i cheat i always “announce” it

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:16:50am

I’m going to bed now, ‘cause morning classes, but I’ll leave this thought for y’all to kick around.

Has there ever been a candidate so widely mocked and ridiculed by so many people as Trump? I mean, people poked fun at W for being dumb and an “empty hat,” but IIRC it was not as widespread or as public as the shit Trump is getting.

When your standard bearer is a complete joke to everyone else, maybe it’s time to reflect on how to prevent that from happening again.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:16:50am

re: #387 dangerman

I meant “southern” accent

The Lon guyland thing never goes away
I still ask for wauduh when I’m thirsty. (so I’m told)

When I first moved here from Philly, Islanders wold make fun of my Philly accent - and when I went back to visit Philly my friends would make fun of my Noo Yawk accent. That was a weird time.

Having lived here for over 35 years now, I believe my accent has moved completely to the Noo Yawk side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:17:58am

DON’T LOOK INTO THE LIGHT!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:18:30am

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

DON’T LOOK INTO THE LIGHT!!!!

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Bill, please don’t play with scissors, you might hurt yourself.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:18:51am

re: #394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m going to bed now, ‘cause morning classes, but I’ll leave this thought for y’all to kick around.

Has there ever been a candidate so widely mocked and ridiculed by so many people as Trump? I mean, people poked fun at W for being dumb and an “empty hat,” but IIRC it was not as widespread or as public as the shit Trump is getting.

When your standard bearer is a complete joke to everyone else, maybe it’s time to reflect on how to prevent that from happening again.

…by your own party
and corrected constantly, by your own party

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:19:17am

re: #395 makeitstop

When I first moved here from Philly, Islanders wold make fun of my Philly accent - and when I went back to visit Philly my friends would make fun of my Noo Yawk accent. That was a weird time.

Having lived here for over 35 years now, I believe my accent has moved completely to the Noo Yawk side.

It’s funny how accents change. My cousin has been living in the UK about a decade now. She definitely has a slight British accent.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:20:23am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:21:05am

re: #387 dangerman

I meant “southern” accent

The Lon guyland thing never goes away
I still ask for wauduh when I’m thirsty. (so I’m told)

Despite years living away from d’Island, I still say “duawg” and “luaw” sometimes. I catch myself when I’m teaching English classes slipping in some NYawkisms, and point them out to my students as an example of regional variations.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:21:18am

Kristol must be mad at Drumpfskind because of the latter’s love for Putin:

Bill Kristol battles ‘Morning Joe’ on Trump coverage

Bill Kristol sparred with MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski Thursday, accusing the “Morning Joe” hosts of treating Donald Trump gently.

“This show was really tough on Trump in late 2015 and early 2016,” he said sarcastically on the pair’s broadcast that morning.

“We were,” Scarborough responded to Kristol, the founder and editor of The Weekly Standard.

“Oh fine,” retorted Kristol, a leading figure of the “Never Trump” movement. “If that’s your way of rewriting history.”

[…]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:21:29am

re: #394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m going to bed now, ‘cause morning classes, but I’ll leave this thought for y’all to kick around.

Has there ever been a candidate so widely mocked and ridiculed by so many people as Trump? I mean, people poked fun at W for being dumb and an “empty hat,” but IIRC it was not as widespread or as public as the shit Trump is getting.

When your standard bearer is a complete joke to everyone else, maybe it’s time to reflect on how to prevent that from happening again.

At least, for a lot of people, GWB was a guy you wouldn’t mind having a beer with.
Trump’s the kind of guy you’d assume would slip something into your drink.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:21:43am

Post debate hat

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:21:47am

Oh look, another woman corroborating what Donald Trump said about his behavior towards women.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:22:35am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least, for a lot of people, GWB was a guy you wouldn’t mind having a beer with.
Trump’s the kind of guy you’d assume would slip something into your drink.

GWB wasn’t a racist either. I think he exploited his base’s homophobia to win the 2004 election but I don’t think he was racially prejudiced.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:22:35am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least, for a lot of people, GWB was a guy you wouldn’t mind having a beer with.
Trump’s the kind of guy you’d assume would slip something into your drink.

And charge for it

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:22:38am

re: #402 freetoken

Kristol must be mad at Drumpfskind because of the latter’s love for Putin:

Bill Kristol battles ‘Morning Joe’ on Trump coverage

Morning Joke is almost as bad as Hannity at times.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:23:25am

re: #404 Kilroy01

Post debate hat

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Not bigly enough. He’s a bigly loser.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:23:55am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:24:04am

re: #401 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Despite years living away from d’Island, I still say “duawg” and “luaw” sometimes. I catch myself when I’m teaching English classes slipping in some NYawkisms, and point them out to my students as an example of regional variations.

The more relaxed I am, the more I slip into a country drawl. It wouldn’t be that bad if it was a Southern accent, but I sound like a hick.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:24:35am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

It’s funny how accents change. My cousin has been living in the UK about a decade now. She definitely has a slight British accent.

Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.

I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:25:18am
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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:26:10am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:26:28am

re: #409 lawhawk

Not bigly enough. He’s a bigly loser.

In the shape of an “L” on [his] forehead …

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:27:28am

re: #412 makeitstop

Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.

I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.

One of the commentators on WTOP was joking about that and Bernie Sanders’ accent. Something like, “Even if you’ve spent only a day in Brooklyn, you’ll come back talking like you’ve spent your whole life there.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:27:29am

re: #412 makeitstop

Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.

I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.

Yeah I definitely found myself slipping into patterns of Hiberno(Irish) English while I studied in Ireland as an undergrad. In fact, in some ways I still do I think, I don’t have a brogue or anything like that.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:27:30am

re: #412 makeitstop

Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.

I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.

NY accent is very different from what it was when I was growing up. Influx of new immigrant groups, particularly from Asia and Africa has changed the Noo Yawker accent.

It’s fascinating to say the least.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:27:57am

re: #414 Franklin

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Her team was sending her messages in Morse code?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:28:00am

re: #262 freetoken

We will just give the Military Aid to Vietnam then.

Though, I think Duterte’s popularity will start dwindling there relatively shortly. He has pissed off pretty much every state with a remotely democratic governance.

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Teukka  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:28:20am

re: #412 makeitstop

Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.

I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.

Been there, done that.

I used to live in Gothenburg, so had the Gothenburg dialect. Then I moved to Stockholm, and within a year spoke Stockholmian. I have found Gotlandian is contagious for me (I get a clear Gotlandian ring within hours), as is re-exposure to Gothenburgian.

As to English, once the rust is shaken off speaking, I have a slight US accent.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:28:39am

re: #415 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In the shape of an “L” on [his] forehead …

Thank you for making the Smash Mouth reference so I didn’t have to. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:28:45am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:30:10am

re: #418 lawhawk

NY accent is very different from what it was when I was growing up. Influx of new immigrant groups, particularly from Asia and Africa has changed the Noo Yawker accent.

It’s fascinating to say the least.

From what I remember reading, Daniel Day-Lewis prepared for his role of Bill the Butcher by listening to old phonographs of Walt Whitman. It’s interesting how non-native speakers of a language can effect an accent. Take Ireland for example, the Scots heavily influenced Northern Ireland’s accent.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:30:37am

re: #408 Sir John Barron

What’s worse is that Kristol is the voice of reason telling him to STFU.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:31:07am

re: #418 lawhawk

NY accent is very different from what it was when I was growing up. Influx of new immigrant groups, particularly from Asia and Africa has changed the Noo Yawker accent.

It’s fascinating to say the least.

i’ll be visiting NJ next week
well see if anyone understands me at all

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:31:20am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:33:09am

Of course, if you stay with people who speak your native accent, it doesn’t really go away. My grandfather spent more time in his life away from Western Pa but because he worked with so many Western Pa transplants, he never really lost it. My grandmother still has it but it wasn’t nearly as pronounced. I never detected any Western Pa in my other grandmother’s dialect. Perhaps because she lived all around the country.

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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:33:51am

Oh my, this is glorious.

Full Alex Jones debate night meltdown

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Tigger2  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:35:26am

re: #156 Anymouse

Another wingnut: I don’t wear a flag pin either, I wear a Gold Star Family pin:

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I will most likely get some hate in my mentions over this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:35:28am

re: #429 Jenner7

Oh my, this is glorious.

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Video

Jones and Trump both seem to think that Clinton was a dictator the past 30 years and she could get whatever she wanted accomplished by decree.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:36:09am

re: #430 Tigger2

I will most likely get some hate in my mentions over this.

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You will but you’re 100% correct. The flag pin stuff is so stupid and if these dumbasse want to play games, they should notice the colors of her outfits at the three debates.

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Mattand  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:36:09am

re: #412 makeitstop

Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.

I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.

The better half originally hails from New Orleans, and it’s amazing to hear her lapse into that accent after we’ve been there for half a day.

Conversely, I’ve been taking voiceover lessons. Overall, I’ve been told I have a fairly neutral accent, but besides the obvious Philly/South Jersey stuff (water/wuder; dog/daugh), I’ve been shocked at some of the stuff that the teachers have caught.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:36:44am

re: #430 Tigger2

What’s more patriotic? Wearing a flag pin or buying Chinese steel or having your clothing line made overseas and screwing US workers?

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:36:52am

re: #430 Tigger2

I will most likely get some hate in my mentions over this.

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there is no mention of flag pins in the constitution /strict construction

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:37:07am

Donald Trump singing Mahna Mahna song
Don’t know if you guys saw this or not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:37:25am
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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:37:53am

re: #432 HappyWarrior

Clinton has made no secret of the reason for her color choices during the debates and other public appearances on the campaign trail, especially during the DNC convention.

It was a nod to the suffrage movement. And she coordinated the color with Bill and Chelsea as well.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:37:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:38:45am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:39:04am

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe she’ll stop harassing me for money then!

(I gave an undisclosed sum, I ain’t giving anymore.)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:39:20am

re: #360 dangerman

Moreover, IBD is a wacky newspaper, most notable for the following.

In July 2009, an editorial in Investor’s Business Daily claimed that physicist Stephen Hawking “wouldn’t have a chance in the U.K., where the [British] National Health Service (NHS) would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.” Hawking has always lived in the U.K. and receives his medical care from the NHS, and IBD later removed the editorial’s reference to Hawking in its online version, and appended an “Editor’s Note,” which said, “This version corrects the original editorial which implied that physicist Stephen Hawking, a professor at the University of Cambridge, did not live in the UK.”[10][11] Hawking himself responded, “I wouldn’t be here today if it were not for the NHS. I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived.”

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:39:34am

re: #436 HappyWarrior

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Video
Don’t know if you guys saw this or not.

from one of my favorite episodes

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:39:55am

re: #439 Dr. Matt

Yeah, that he’s faithful.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:40:13am

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tough shit for them. He will become one of their defacto leaders because they stupidly nominated him in the first place. Maybe try voting for a candidate based oter than your hatred for Obama and Clinton next time Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:40:44am

re: #443 dangerman

from one of my favorite episodes

I’m hoping that Slater and Waldorf heckle him during his concession speech.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:40:57am

Expect the Trump nuts to fixate on this for the remainder of election season:

A lone outlier of a poll indicating a Trump lead.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:41:16am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Tough shit for them. He will become one of their defacto leaders because they stupidly nominated him in the first place. Maybe try voting for a candidate based oter than your hatred for Obama and Clinton next time Republicans.

“party of trump” will never go away

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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:41:50am

Early voting starts next week here in Utah. I can’t fucking wait to cast my vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:42:14am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:42:14am

baked praline french toast

no pictures

i’m just gloating

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:42:20am
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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:42:37am

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

A plurality, 27 percent, picked vice presidential nominee Mike Pence. Trump got 24 percent, ahead of Texas Senator Ted Cruz at 19 percent, House Speaker Paul Ryan at 15 percent, and Ohio Governor John Kasich at 10 percent.

Poor Ted, so many people hate him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:42:41am

re: #448 dangerman

“party of trump” will never go away

Yep. If they’re going to continue to use Reagan even though they have a lot of candidates who never even voted for the guy then they need to own Trump too. And quite frankly as much as I dislike Reagan, Trump is a far more accurate representation about where they are as a party in the 21st century than Ronald Reagan.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:43:50am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

Reagan would be a RINO with the current GOP crop. Closest to Reagan among the 17 clowns in the primary race was probably Rubio or Jeb, and both lost rather easily.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:44:02am

re: #453 freetoken

Poor Ted, so many people hate him.

That’s not good news for the establishment types. Only 25% want Kasich or Ryan.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:44:16am

re: #455 lawhawk

Reagan would be a RINO with the current GOP crop. Closest to Reagan among the 17 clowns in the primary race was probably Rubio or Jeb, and both lost rather easily.

Yep.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:45:39am

re: #410 lawhawk

Rigged!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:45:56am

Thing is though I think a lot of Hispanic-Americans and women too especially are going to remember that the GOP nominated this fuck. The GOP is going to try to wash their hands of Trump as if he never happened but he did happen and the thing is the GOP base, they still like Donald. The base that nominated Trump isn’t going to disappear in 2020. It will diminish some due to voters dying but the alt-right that has been Trump’s biggest champion isn’t exactly your grandparents watching Fox either.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:46:31am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

Yep. If they’re going to continue to use Reagan even though they have a lot of candidates who never even voted for the guy then they need to own Trump too. And quite frankly as much as I dislike Reagan, Trump is a far more accurate representation about where they are as a party in the 21st century than Ronald Reagan.

reagan left office in 1989. as you say, the last century

he’s not the face of the party
he’s an inaccurate, sepia reminiscence

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:47:03am
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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:48:53am

So, playing with backgrounds revealed partisans who claim the election is rigged in favor of Clinton. Meanwhile, you’ve got this too:

PROOF! (of something)

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:49:40am

re: #461 freetoken

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I dont tweet:

Trump: Here’s $10. write this book report for me.
Q: What book?
Trump: Any book
#TrumpBookReport

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:50:03am

re: #460 dangerman

reagan left office in 1989. as you say, the last century

he’s not the face of the party
he’s an inaccurate, sepia reminiscence

Left office before:
The first Simpsons episode
The fall of the Berlin Wall
The birth of any of my siblings
Grunge

Yes, he’s a relic of their past and I think one of the big reasons they like to talk about him is because he was by far the most successful electorally speaking GOPer of their lifetimes.

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:50:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:50:55am

re: #462 lawhawk

So, playing with backgrounds revealed partisans who claim the election is rigged in favor of Clinton. Meanwhile, you’ve got this too:

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PROOF! (of something)

this one, too:

hahahahaaaa

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:51:17am

I still remember Cruz being asked how he’d get crossover voters. He answered Reagan Democrats. The absolute youngest Reagan Democrat is 50 years old this election. The Republican Party has no new ideas. Just the same crap they’ve promised since Ronnie but in a more nasty package.

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gocart mozart  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:52:55am
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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:53:19am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:54:19am

re: #469 Franklin

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I wish I could look as cool as that in my sunglasses. :(

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:54:38am

re: #469 Franklin

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joe cool

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:55:47am

LOL

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:55:50am

Not for nothing, but these debates were good for one thing…Twitter has been on fire.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:57:07am

re: #472 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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Here is the text that goes with that Tweet==>

If elected POTUS - I will stop RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM in this country! In order to do this, we need to #DrainTheSwamp!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:57:16am

re: #472 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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That’s supposed to inspire people lol.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:57:52am

re: #473 Franklin

Not for nothing, but these debates were good for one thing…Twitter has been on fire.

and popcorn

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:58:49am

Can’t tell if this is real or not….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:58:49am

Honestly I don’t give a shit about the phrase. I care about doing something about terrorism and that’s what Obama and Clinton have done despite Trump and the GOP’s delusions.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:59:17am

re: #477 Franklin

Can’t tell if this is real or not….

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Nah, that makes too much sense for it to really be Sarah.

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jeffreyw  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:59:50am

re: #451 dangerman

baked praline french toast

no pictures

i’m just gloating

Picture, or it didn’t happen LOL

Imgur

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2016 • 8:59:59am

re: #460 dangerman

reagan left office in 1989. as you say, the last century

he’s not the face of the party
he’s an inaccurate, sepia reminiscence

The rose-tinted-memory-of-morning-in-America Reagan is still the image that defines the GOP for many of them

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:00:44am

re: #447 lawhawk

Expect the Trump nuts to fixate on this for the remainder of election season:

A lone outlier of a poll indicating a Trump lead.

It will be interesting. Rasmussen has a normal tendency of moving towards the rest of the polls towards the end of the election. Will they do that this time?

As for this poll, it’ll be interesting to see its composition, but there’s always the 1 in 20 rule with statistics (assuming 95% accuracy).

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:02:13am
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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:03:23am

re: #472 The Vicious Babushka

Uhhh…..

They are so not good at this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:03:31am

re: #483 The Vicious Babushka

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Great Gatsby? I’m greater. I have greater parties than that lowborn loser.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:05:25am

re: #480 jeffreyw

Picture, or it didn’t happen LOL

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got a witness
might go public

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:06:15am
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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:06:22am
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sagehen  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:07:00am
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calochortus  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:07:02am

The Freepers are carrying on over Clinton revealing the 4 minute nuclear response time. Treason! Pentagon is furious! And so on!

Now aside from the fact I can’t imagine anyone likely to attack us thinks that it will take an hour and a half to launch missiles, or that their line of attack would differ if it took us 2 minutes or 6 minutes, if it were accurate and top secret would the Pentagon folks be stupid enough to confirm the number by having a hissy fit? I hope not.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:07:22am

re: #488 Jenner7

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He had the best notes! The best! They were bigly and he didn’t want anyone stealing them!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:08:15am

re: #490 calochortus

The Freepers are carrying on over Clinton revealing the 4 minute nuclear response time. Treason! Pentagon is furious! And so on!

Now aside from the fact I can’t imagine anyone likely to attack us thinks that it will take an hour and a half to launch missiles, or that there line of attack would differ if it took us 2 minutes or 6 minutes, if it were accurate and top secret would the Pentagon folks be stupid enough to confirm the number by having a hissy fit? I hope not.

And the flag pin. No flag pin. SAD!

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:09:42am

This would be great:

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:10:34am

re: #493 Franklin

This would be great:

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My tweet was just faved by @darth so maybe it’s in the offing?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:10:44am

Turkey helps out DAESH again.

Twenty-six airstrikes by Turkish jets hit Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) militia in three villages west of al-Bab and northeast of Aleppo, which the SDF had recently captured from ISIL. The Turkish General Staff says between 160 and 200 were killed, while the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reports 11 dead and dozens wounded.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:12:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:12:47am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:12:55am

re: #490 calochortus

The Freepers are carrying on over Clinton revealing the 4 minute nuclear response time. Treason! Pentagon is furious! And so on!

Now aside from the fact I can’t imagine anyone likely to attack us thinks that it will take an hour and a half to launch missiles, or that there line of attack would differ if it took us 2 minutes or 6 minutes, if it were accurate and top secret would the Pentagon folks be stupid enough to confirm the number by having a hissy fit? I hope not.

I think they’re probably also losing it because the GOP has forfeited any claims to be the better national security party. Obama got them good on that. and Clinton has continued it.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:13:06am

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL

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philosophus invidius  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:13:20am
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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:14:06am

re: #345 Sir John Barron

Puzzled by Morning Joke, who at some point appeared to be getting critical of Trump (maybe that was in the primaries when there were other Republicans he preferred), but in the past few months has retreated back into a Trump surrogate.

Clinton hate. Pure and simple.

Must be remembered he was in congress during Big Bill’s time in office. Probably a huge amount of butt hurt residue still lingers from that time. Just carry it over to Hillary.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:14:17am

re: #490 calochortus

Twitchy is pushing this line, which probably led to the Freeper choir joining in.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:14:19am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:14:19am

re: #496 The Vicious Babushka

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No trees or lions and tigers. What kind of stupid jungle is that?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:14:30am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:14:57am

re: #502 freetoken

Twitchy is pushing this line, which probably led to the Freeper choir joining in.

Sounds like a winner. Please proceed….

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Tigger2  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:15:01am
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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:15:54am

Trump surrogate: Hillary was petty for not shaking Donald’s hand.

Yeah, that’s what you got out of the debate. Okay.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:16:07am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

I can only think that HRC is holding the rape case of that 13yr old in her back pocket for the last week of the race if she needs it. I don’t think she will because I think this thing is all over except for the fat lady singing.

The last week is too late. People are already voting. I think this will not be used.

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:17:25am
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calochortus  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:18:20am

re: #502 freetoken

Twitchy is pushing this line, which probably led to the Freeper choir joining in.

Yeah, there are 3 or 4 threads in their “featured” stuff on the right hand margin. All shocked! Shocked I tell ya!
I’m also not seeing a lot Yay Trump! He totally won! To me that indicates that at some level they know there’s a problem, whether they acknowledge it or not.

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Tigger2  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:19:13am

re: #509 MsJ

The last week is too late. People are already voting. I think this will not be used.

Could it be they are not using because an investigation is going on.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:20:02am

re: #216 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Says we’re not doing enough to combat ISIS, but when we do, it’s for the benefit of the D candidate for president, and not part of any overall strategy for the area. Right. Oh, and we should do a sneak attack! But we are too stupid to do it! All the generals say so!

This would be the #1 talker if not for #IllKeepYouInSuspense.

This was exactly the same when Trump talked about immigration and how many, many people Obama is deporting - but Obama and Clinton don’t deport anyone. #Whiplash

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:20:02am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

RIGGED!!!!!

He’s casting asparagus at FOX News!

This is going to cause some major confusion. Did FOX News fuck over their favorite fool.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:20:20am

re: #511 calochortus

Yeah, there are 3 or 4 threads in their “featured” stuff on the right hand margin. All shocked! Shocked I tell ya!
I’m also not seeing a lot Yay Trump! He totally won! To me that indicates that at some level they know there’s a problem, whether they acknowledge it or not.

I think you’re going to see three camps emerge when Trump loses. One that admits that Trump lost because he’s completely unqualified, one that will insist that Trump got robbed and was “stabbed in the back”, and another that will even insist that wasn’t right wing enough, and one that will claim as some already have that Trump’s actually a lefty.

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calochortus  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:20:23am

re: #512 Tigger2

Could it be they are not using because an investigation is going on.

Or, we can hope they’re sticking with “We go high.”

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Mike Lamb  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:20:28am

Sauron is a strong leader and thinks Gandalf is weak. SAD! After I’m elected, I’m going to Mordor to meet with him. Hopefully, Sauron will like me and be my friend. #Trumpbookreports.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:22:11am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:22:47am

re: #466 Backwoods_Sleuth

When election comes along
You must rig it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:23:11am

re: #510 Franklin

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LOL…the top part “Loser with tiny hands…”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:23:27am

re: #518 Dr. Matt

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But she’s such a terrible liar too. // I’m going to vote for the guy who can’t name a leader he admires or the lady who flirts with anti-vaxxers despite being a doctor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:23:53am

re: #512 Tigger2

Could it be they are not using because an investigation is going on.

Could be because “when they go low, we go high”.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:23:59am

re: #510 Franklin

His right hand looks really small in that picture.

Just sayin…

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:24:03am

re: #378 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He is such a fuckin’ loser. She knew the answers because she studied for the test, Donny.

Hell, they announced what would be on the test quite a while ago.

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:24:30am

So Trumps new accuser says when he approached her with a group of his friends he said “Hey, look at this one. We haven’t seen her before.” How much you want to bet he took her for an escort?

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:25:08am

“So Big” is a stupid title.

ida used “So Yuuge”

#Trumpbookreports

oh, and
he was a rider
and was easy

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:25:17am

Ezra Klein summarizes things perfectly - Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruins

Clinton was able to make Trump’s treatment of women the issue in part because she and her campaign had prepared to make Trump’s treatment of women the issue, and in part because she is a woman and her assault on Trump flummoxed his usual mode of defense, which is to dominate and insult the other men on the stage. By the end of the final debate, Trump was reduce to spitting that Clinton was “such a nasty woman,” a line that spoke to both his horror at being challenged by a woman and his complete inability to control what came out of his mouth after 80 minutes on a stage with Clinton.

Two things have been true throughout the debates. One is that Trump has been, at every turn, underprepared, undisciplined, and operating completely without a strategy. In one of the third debate’s most unintentionally revealing moments, Trump said, “I sat in my apartment today … watching ad after false ad, all paid for by your friends on Wall Street,” an inadvertent admission that he was inhaling cable news when he should have been prepping for the debate.

But the other reality is that Clinton has been, at every turn, prepared, disciplined, and coldly strategic. She triggered Trump’s epic meltdown purposely, and kept Trump off balance over multiple weeks that probably represented his last chance to turn the election around. She was ready for every question, prepared for every attack, and managed to goad Trump into making mistakes that became the main story the day after every single debate.

Much, much more at the link.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:25:38am

re: #523 freetoken

His right hand looks really small in that picture.

Just sayin…

darth always works tiny hands into his creations.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:26:05am

re: #524 Eventual Carrion

Hell, they announced what would be on the test quite a while ago.

he was out that day

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:26:27am

re: #505 The Vicious Babushka

Well, for one, your question would be better directed to an OB/GYN doctor, rather than political committees.

Secondly, delivering a viable baby IS usually what doctors do - when it is feasible without killing the mother.

Third, “killing term babies” isn’t, AFAIK, anybody’s preferred practice - which is why is is done so rarely as to be a statistical fluke, and usually only in case #2 above.

I was going to close the comment with a rhetorical question about anti-abortion nuts being idiots, but the answer is just too obvious.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:26:28am

re: #507 Tigger2

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Yeah, except B&N is only too happy to carry and promote the latest anti-Obama Hillary “book” by the Fox News or talk radio host.

I don’t blame them, they have to make a buck. But let’s not regard our book chain establishments as some kind of depository of thoughtful material.

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Jayleia  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:26:54am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:29:15am

re: #527 makeitstop

Ezra Klein summarizes things perfectly - Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruins

But the other reality is that Clinton has been, at every turn, prepared, disciplined, and coldly strategic. She triggered Trump’s epic meltdown purposely, and kept Trump off balance over multiple weeks that probably represented his last chance to turn the election around. She was ready for every question, prepared for every attack, and managed to goad Trump into making mistakes that became the main story the day after every single debate.

Much, much more at the link.

spot on except for that

three weeks from election day in the hole hes in you dont “turn it around”

youd have to start by rewinding 6 months and build, then run a proper campaign

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:29:47am

re: #532 Jayleia

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Mike, please don’t do pop culture references. It makes you look like an even bigger idiot than you already are like when you compared Trump to Quint and Clinton to Jaws when Megyn frigging Kelly had to remind you of Quint’s fate.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:30:27am

re: #414 Franklin

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Yeah, Donald looks like he “finished”.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:30:48am

re: #530 Jay C

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Well, for one, your question would be better directed to an OB/GYN doctor, rather than political committees.

Secondly, delivering a viable baby IS usually what doctors do - when it is feasible without killing the mother.

Third, “killing term babies” isn’t, AFAIK, anybody’s preferred practice - which is why is is done so rarely as to be a statistical fluke, and usually only in case #2 above.

I was going to close the comment with a rhetorical question about anti-abortion nuts being idiots, but the answer is just too obvious.

there are no nine month abortions so the question is from ignorance

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:31:10am

re: #260 lawhawk

From the Redstater you quote:

How could he be right if he was woefully uninformed, inarticulate, and incoherent that his argument made no sense. Oh, I guess if you’re anti-abortion, and your position is abortion is wrong, how you get there or justify it doesn’t actually matter. Gotcha.

But the reality is that the abortion issue and the 2A question reveal that Trump has zero understanding of the Supreme Court, how the law works, and how policy is done in the US. Saying that stuff gets left to the states if Roe is overturned ignores how that actually plays out - and that there’s a whole lot of court decisions that would end up with the matter right back at the Court (because under the law you can’t have split of authority among the circuits).

It also ignores that Trump’s line about how you can get an abortion up to a few days before the baby could be born. This ignores how biology actually works, and if the mother is in that situation, it’s called childbirth.

Late term abortion is a nonissue, mostly because so few are actually done - and when they are done, it’s to protect the life of the mother (a life in being). The GOP would rather see the mother die, to not put too fine a point on things. Forced birth at the expense of the mother.

And it’s not like Trump is an outlier on abortion in respect to the GOP. This is core doctrine. He’s just more explicit about things.

What, to me, shows his ignorance the most is his repeated insistence that because Clinton has been around for 30 years, she alone is responsible for not getting shit done. He views public governance as a dictatorship where one person can and will make all decisions and those decisions are final, set in stone and no one else can or will have input or pushback.

He views the Executive and Legislative branches as one thing where one person can make all the decisions…and he views the Judicial branch as crooked and beneath him.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:31:41am

re: #532 Jayleia

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Guy who commuted the sentence of a future quadruple cop-killer says what?

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:32:42am
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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:32:54am

re: #533 dangerman

spot on except for that

three weeks from election day in the hole hes in you dont “turn it around”

youd have to start by rewinding 6 months and build, then run a proper campaign

True. But historically, the last debate is always seen as the ‘last chance’ to right a sinking ship. Had Trump managed to maintain his composure last night (I know, but go with me here), the post-mortem would have had a very different tone this morning.

But like I said on Facebook this morning - by not stating that he would honor the peaceful transfer of the office, he metaphorically slit his own throat and bled out on national TV.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:32:59am

re: #490 calochortus

The Freepers are carrying on over Clinton revealing the 4 minute nuclear response time. Treason! Pentagon is furious! And so on!

Now aside from the fact I can’t imagine anyone likely to attack us thinks that it will take an hour and a half to launch missiles, or that their line of attack would differ if it took us 2 minutes or 6 minutes, if it were accurate and top secret would the Pentagon folks be stupid enough to confirm the number by having a hissy fit? I hope not.

Not only that, but four minutes from a time the target wouldn’t know anyway. THIS MEME DOESN’T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE

Is there some new gadget that allows idiots to shit directly into the internet through their keyboard? That would explain so much.

I’m pretty sure the Russkies would know that number anyway, since secure hotline communications have been a thing since after the Cuban Missile Crisis. It’s not like the launch orders would be given by courier, FFS….

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gwangung  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:34:56am

Heh.

Nasty Woman T shirt available.

50% of proceeds go to Planned Parenthood.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:35:05am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:36:03am
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:36:45am

re: #527 makeitstop

Ezra Klein summarizes things perfectly - Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruins

Much, much more at the link.

No wonder Putin is doing everything he can to keep her out of office.

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b.d.  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:37:04am

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump just quit. He’d still get millions of votes and then say “hey, i quit 3 weeks before the election and still got x million votes”

he’s looking for an out, he can’t handle being a loser.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:37:28am

re: #289 jeffreyw

That’s cod, I was going for as authentic as I knew how. Alas, my understanding of the dish comes from cooking shows and movies rather than personal experience.

I can never make good fried fish. That looked delish.

I love fish tacos and always buy the fish from a local restaurant (they make great fish) then make the tacos at home using their fish.

I envy you, oh cooking master. I consider myself a quasi-gourmet chef but I have my limitations. I bow to thee.

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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:37:43am

“I will accept results if I win.” Trump just now

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:37:43am

He just doubled down:

I’ll accept the results of this election if I win. har har

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:38:57am

re: #545 Belafon

No wonder Putin is doing everything he can to keep her out of office.

Yep. Putin would have this moron barking like a seal on live TV, so long as he said nice things about Trump first.

Clinton did the country a favor by pointing out how easy it is to wind that watch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:39:37am

What kind of stupid answer is that? Accept them if he wins. He really is stupid. I feel bad that Clinton didn’t get a quality opponent because the right is definitely going to try to spi nthe only reason she’ll have won is because of Trump. Nevermind that their “rising stars” like Rubio, Christie, and the others couldn’t beat him in the primary.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:39:44am

re: #548 Jenner7

“I will accept results if I win.” Trump just now

FFS, I said that this morning to a family member as a satirical take on his comments last night.

Trump is a walking Poe’s Law.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:40:22am

re: #552 Timothy Watson

FFS, I said that this morning to a family member as a satirical take on his comments last night.

Trump is a walking Poe’s Law.

We need to check if he’s not really Sacha Baron Cohen, Alec Baldwin, or Andy Kauffman.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:40:57am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:41:10am

re: #540 makeitstop

True. But historically, the last debate is always seen as the ‘last chance’ to right a sinking ship. Had Trump managed to maintain his composure last night (I know, but go with me here), the post-mortem would have had a very different tone this morning.

But like I said on Facebook this morning - by not stating that he would honor the peaceful transfer of the office, he metaphorically slit his own throat and bled out on national TV.

ok to be all metaphorical yes
he could have changed direction to some other direction
or sunk slower
or sunk less
or floated longer
or lost by less
or gone on a different tangent, not headed for “victory”
or anything

yes the final gun has not sounded. yes hes got somewhere between 0 and 10% chances (i think 4%).

short of a confluence of a number of perfect storms nothing was going to happen.

the fat lady has started her aria.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:42:11am
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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:43:07am

Jeebus, this guy…..

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:43:39am

re: #549 Stanley Sea

He just doubled down:

I’ll accept the results of this election if I win. har har

Hurr hurr just a joke libtards!

Trump loses

Trump better not concede…vote fraud confirmed FACT. 2nd amendment Revolution!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:43:53am

I wonder what would be a good Clinton popular win number. Consensus seems to be people are running about 55/45 for H right now, right? Optimistically 60/40. What number would it take to be decisive and shut up the whiners?

70/30 sounds good to me. Decisive majority without looking like a statistical outlier. “Seven out of ten people want Dump to fuck off.” That’s probably enough to put pause to the losers and cowards yawping about revolution and violence. Tiny-dicked gun-humpers would back off if they thought most of their neighbors wouldn’t support them.

I’ll e-mail* my contacts at the Muslim Brotherhood secret HQ to get all those “Mohammed Mohammeds” triple-registered in the inner city disaster zones. Whitey will never see it coming!

*On a secured server, of course, LOL! But maybe I’ll “accidentally” BCC Assange for funsies!

Edit: added thoughts :P

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Jenner7  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:45:12am

Trump finds it incredible he’s been asked to accept the results.

Because you’re going around saying it’s rigged! Fucking hell.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:46:34am

re: #550 makeitstop

Yep. Putin would have this moron barking like a seal on live TV, so long as he said nice things about Trump first.

Clinton did the country a favor by pointing out how easy it is to wind that watch.

Not only that, but Putin is a bully like Trump, and I bet losing to a girl would sit rather poorly with him as well.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:50:26am
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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:51:18am

re: #366 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The right wing has pinned Clinton with missing emails, Benghazi, the Clinton Foundation, Vince Foster, Bill’s affairs, dead Haitians. None of them have any credibility or even factual basis, but it’s enough for ill-informed voters to conclude there’s something up, and they don’t trust her. At least one member of my family is convinced that Hillary will shatter the nation and begin a war with Russia, and he hates her with the heat of a thousand stars.

Add to that the Wikileaks BS, which is just a massive data dump with no real scandal contained within, and you’ve got more than enough to short out the brain circuits of the average, apolitical voter.

What is really striking to me (and sad beyond belief) is how invasive the Hillary is a liar, dishonest, not trustworthy, etc., thing is across society. I was watching The Daily Show last night and there were black millennials saying this, Jimmy Kimmel had kids on his show (pre-taped) and they said that, and it just shows how the right wing has gotten this into the thoughts and minds of Americans…all Americans.

That is fucking SAD!

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Timothy Watson  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:51:50am

re: #559 Pawn of the Oppressor

I wonder what would be a good Clinton popular win number. Consensus seems to be people are running about 55/45 for H right now, right? Optimistically 60/40. What number would it take to be decisive and shut up the whiners?

70/30 sounds good to me. Decisive majority without looking like a statistical outlier. “Seven out of ten people want Dump to fuck off.”

I’ll e-mail my contacts at the Muslim Brotherhood secret HQ to get all those “Mohammed Mohammeds” triple-registered in the inner city disaster zones. Whitey will never see it coming!

I’ve been volunteering for the campaign, and it looks pretty certain that Clinton will win in Virginia.

But, fuck it, let’s run up the score.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:52:54am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

Word salad of the day.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:53:47am
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Tigger2  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:54:18am
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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:54:26am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:54:48am

BREAKING — Trump campaign staffers are already complaining that tonights Al Smith dinner is rigged against their candidate, citing today’s WikiLeaks release of dozens of Slovenian mother-in-law jokes found in Clinton campaign e-mails.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:55:54am

re: #567 Tigger2

The problem is that “getting control” might mean only 51 seats, which means the Republicans will be able to shut down anything Clinton wants to do.

And 72% is not all that comforting. It is barely more than even odds.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:56:35am

re: #568 MsJ

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RIGGED DEBAET!!!

She knew she’d be asked questions like “EXPLAIN YOUR POLICY!” and “HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT THING THAT WAS IN THE NEWS LAST WEEK!”

UNFAIIRSESS!!!

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Tigger2  Oct 20, 2016 • 9:59:28am

re: #570 freetoken

The problem is that “getting control” might mean only 51 seats, which means the Republicans will be able to shut down anything Clinton wants to do.

And 72% is not all that comforting. It is barely more than even odds.

Better than it was last week, it’s inching up.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:01:28am

Also, apparently Egypt’s inflation rate is now about 14%.

How long does everyone think Al-Sisi will last? Egypt seems to be the Middle Eastern analogue to France, so I kinda think we will have another revolution soon.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:02:31am

re: #490 calochortus

Re: the nuclear response time.

It’s total BS. And what Clinton stated isn’t exactly a state secret. In fact, it’s widely accepted as a response time for the President to deliberate on whether to inform the NMCC to respond with a nuclear reprisal.

Bottom line: It’s bullshit.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:02:39am

re: #542 gwangung

Heh.

Nasty Woman T shirt available.

50% of proceeds go to Planned Parenthood.

Too slow for us to wear while we’re working the Bill Clinton N. Florida rally on Saturday. Wife is at the craft shop, getting the materials for our “Nasty Woman” and “Bad Hombre” home-cooked shirts.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:06:31am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:06:50am

Sorry, not sorry!

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:07:37am

Once the order is given, 4 minutes sound about right per this video of a contemporary launch capsule:

ICBM video

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:08:16am

re: #578 Stanley Sea

Grab him by … the eyes!

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:08:19am

Here’s a fun twitter hashtag thread thing

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gocart mozart  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:09:02am
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Interesting Times  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:10:05am

Bwahaha:

Facebook Post

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:11:06am
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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:11:42am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh god…it’s back.

Shoot. Me. Now.

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:12:05am
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Tigger2  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:12:15am

re: #583 Interesting Times

Bwahaha:

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:12:38am

re: #510 Franklin

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Check out his hand in that image.

Hahahahaha…not so bigly!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:14:21am

re: #586 Nyet

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What is Bill Mitchell drunk-tweeting about here?

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:14:38am

re: #588 ObserverArt

Nice photoshop.

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:15:03am
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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:15:48am

re: #584 A wild WITHAK appeared!

No way. He did not say that…did he? No. That has to be hacked AP.

Right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:15:58am
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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:16:29am

re: #523 freetoken

His right hand looks really small in that picture.

Just sayin…

Ya think!

Damn that Photoshopping.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:16:55am

re: #592 MsJ

No way. He did not say that…did he? No. That has to be hacked AP.

Right?

I had the same reaction. Triple-checked for the blue checkmark.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:17:02am

re: #574 lawhawk

Re: the nuclear response time.

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It’s total BS. And what Clinton stated isn’t exactly a state secret. In fact, it’s widely accepted as a response time for the President to deliberate on whether to inform the NMCC to respond with a nuclear reprisal.

Bottom line: It’s bullshit.

Yeah but Twitchy….

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:17:09am

re: #591 Nyet

Almost 20k followers.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:17:57am

re: #577 De Kolta Chair

[Embedded content]”Trump saying he won’t accept election results is a threat to democracy, says media that gave him way more airtime than any other candidate all the other candidates combined.”

FIXT

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Jayleia  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:19:01am

re: #589 Sir John Barron

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:19:30am

On a webinar/conference call and the presenter keeps pronouncing gif as JIFF. I don’t care how the creator intended it, it’s a hard G.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:19:43am

re: #559 Pawn of the Oppressor

The whiners will never shut up.

Honestly I think 55% is probably Hilz’ high side. I think she gets 53-54%.

Half the country is still crazy.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:20:49am

re: #601 Sir John Barron

The whiners will never shut up.

Honestly I think 55% is probably Hilz’ high side. I think she gets 53-54%.

Half the country is still crazy.

Actually, given the presence of Johnson in the race, I would be happy if she cracks 50%.

603
Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:20:54am

re: #600 Franklin

On a webinar/conference call and the presenter keeps pronouncing gif as JIFF. I don’t care how the creator intended it, it’s a hard G.

I wonder how they pronounce tar.gz. //

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:22:18am

re: #570 freetoken

The problem is that “getting control” might mean only 51 seats, which means the Republicans will be able to shut down anything Clinton wants to do.

And 72% is not all that comforting. It is barely more than even odds.

At a minimum, getting control of the Senate means taking control of the committees.

605
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:22:51am
606
Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:23:25am

“I’ll have the wineiest, darkest sea. It’ll be so winey you’ll be sea-sick. And I’ll choose excellent killers of men—the very best.”

607
Kragar  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:23:49am

He knows that he’s done.

608
Nyet  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:23:56am

Question: during the three debates has there been a single question on one of the most pressing issues of our time, the climate change?

609
jaunte  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:25:13am

re: #607 Kragar

“Stupid notes!!! Loser debate coaches!!!”

610
sagehen  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:25:23am

John Scalzi has some thoughts about Hillary (and the debate)

whatever.scalzi.com

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:25:43am

re: #546 b.d.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump just quit. He’d still get millions of votes and then say “hey, i quit 3 weeks before the election and still got x million votes”

he’s looking for an out, he can’t handle being a loser.

Too late. He’s already labeled.

Donald J. Trump - BIG FAT ORANGE LOSER.

See.

612
Jay C  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:25:43am

re: #589 Sir John Barron

What is Bill Mitchell drunk-tweeting about here?

The same wingnut BS they got their panties in a twist about from the first debate: some nonsense about Hillary having some lights or equipment in her podium that Donald didn’t get: presumably due to some vast sinister conspiracy to make Trump look bad (Geez, guys; have some faith in your candidate! He can make himself look bad without help!!)

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gocart mozart  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:26:14am
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Jayleia  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:26:33am

re: #608 Nyet

I think your handle is the answer, or if there was, it got lost in the pile of Trump’s BS

615
jaunte  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:27:08am
616
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:28:15am

re: #589 Sir John Barron

What is Bill Mitchell drunk-tweeting about here?

It’s just a continuation of the conspiracy overload dump he did last night.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:28:34am

re: #608 Nyet

Question: during the three debates has there been a single question on one of the most pressing issues of our time, the climate change?

Not one. Comments where thrown in in a couple of responses, but no questions.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:28:48am

re: #616 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s just a continuation of the conspiracy overload dump he did last night.

But Drumpf is winning.

//

619
Bubblehead II  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:28:52am
620
lawhawk  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:28:58am

re: #608 Nyet

Question: during the three debates has there been a single question on one of the most pressing issues of our time, the climate change?

No.

Closest we got was obliquely mentioning energy policy.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:29:04am
622
Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:29:34am

re: #600 Franklin

On a webinar/conference call and the presenter keeps pronouncing gif as JIFF. I don’t care how the creator intended it, it’s a hard G.

Some heathens must be eliminated.

623
Belafon  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:29:53am

re: #600 Franklin

On a webinar/conference call and the presenter keeps pronouncing gif as JIFF. I don’t care how the creator intended it, it’s a hard G.

Then SCUBA is pronounced SCUBBA, because the U stands for underwater.

The term gif (pronounced with a j) has been around since 87.

624
Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:30:38am

re: #608 Nyet

Nope!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:31:29am

re: #620 lawhawk

No.

Closest we got was obliquely mentioning energy policy.

and that only because Chris Wallace took Hillary’s “open border” comment out of context. She had to tell him to finish reading the complete sentence showing that it was open borders in terms of energy policies.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:31:54am

re: #610 sagehen

John Scalzi has some thoughts about Hillary (and the debate)

whatever.scalzi.com

627
De Kolta Chair  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:32:12am

re: #586 Nyet

628
Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:32:38am

re: #627 De Kolta Chair

Busted!

629
makeitstop  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:33:55am

re: #607 Kragar

He knows that he’s done.

[Embedded content]

I sincerely hope this causes him severe agita every day for the rest of his miserable life.

I know, I’m a big mean meanie.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:34:42am

re: #625 Backwoods_Sleuth

and that only because Chris Wallace took Hillary’s “open border” comment out of context. She had to tell him to finish reading the complete sentence showing that it was open borders in terms of energy policies.

He should have been embarrassed by that one. “Finish reading the whole sentence, Chris.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:35:59am

re: #630 jaunte

He should have been embarrassed by that one. “Finish reading the whole sentence, Chris.”

when gotcha questions go horribly, horribly wrong….

632
ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:36:06am

re: #562 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Oh dang…I forgot he was going to be in Delaware Ohio today. It used to be a strictly farm community but over the last 20 or so years has grown into a rich bedroom community in the Columbus Metro Area. A little boom town.

Mitt Romney worked the area back in 2012 when he had a big rally in Powell, the new rich area of Delaware county which is where I worked in my last job. I know the area well.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:37:34am

re: #628 Sir John Barron

Busted!

Crooked Hillary and Lyin’ Ted’s dad have been in cahoots since long before the Bay of Pigs!!!11!!

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:39:44am

re: #627 De Kolta Chair

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:40:16am

re: #630 jaunte

He should have been embarrassed by that one. “Finish reading the whole sentence, Chris.”

It’s Fox. They have no shame.

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BeachDem  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:42:10am

re: #343 dangerman

oYwF2fzyJkJ8wnjYrJcU7veBHY+GDkWXnfZr8h7FZKuIUrszgpRECDr95BtzMPWBKLsPjDfzYLyWOIpQTT21gPyEf01iaGZNgT3xaO2B9fL44C4YEaQKyowGY0YWg8bm175YDkq/W2bZhXFd8RCHMNNZQI9OtGC6Mc5a64nJ7JYlqqaexvHaYA==

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:43:55am

re: #608 Nyet

Question: during the three debates has there been a single question on one of the most pressing issues of our time, the climate change?

No question that I can remember. But, Hillary tries to interject it into her debate responses as best she can.

Sadly it shows the amount of concern about it in the US.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:47:08am

re: #631 Backwoods_Sleuth

when gotcha questions go horribly, horribly wrong….

But it was sooooo FOX News!

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:48:52am

re: #623 Belafon

Then SCUBA is pronounced SCUBBA, because the U stands for underwater.

The term gif (pronounced with a j) has been around since 87.

I will start using scubba then :)

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:49:37am

re: #634 MsJ

Hey get me, I’m famous!! ;-)

641
dangerman  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:50:37am

re: #636 BeachDem

[Embedded content]

So we wuz neighbors once

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Tigger2  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:54:16am

re: #627 De Kolta Chair

[Embedded content]

I have just the wingnut I’m going to use that on, he keeps hitting my mentions with one BS theory after another as to whats on Hillary’s podium

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:58:04am

Scavenged from a PredictIt comment section:

Gopher it, GOP.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 20, 2016 • 10:58:09am

re: #642 Tigger2

The Isley Brothers - It’s Your Thing

;-) My brother-in-law went to Cornell with a couple of these guys!

645
BadgerB  Oct 20, 2016 • 11:12:47am

re: #584 A wild WITHAK appeared!

BREAKING: Donald Trump says he will `totally accept’ the results of the presidential election `if I win’

Not me. If I win this election, I’m demanding an investigation!

646
wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2016 • 11:23:31am

That’s the second time I’ve seen Joe Bonamassa make a little improvement on a John Hiatt song. Not a task for the weak. Good sourcing, Joe.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2016 • 11:42:11am

re: #643 Decatur Deb

Scavenged from a PredictIt comment section:

[Embedded content]

Gopher it, GOP.

I’d have cast a write-in vote for Jeff Flake or Ben Sasse. We need a functional conservative faction to keep liberals from wafting up into the clouds, but it needs to be somebody who repudiated Trump early on.


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