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Le Lapin Tueur  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:16:22am

Wow.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:16:27am

Wow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:17:08am

nailed it

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Fineday  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:18:08am

This made me cry! There is so much at stake.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:19:00am

But what about the heroin in New Hampshire!

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:19:14am
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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:22:55am

The quality of the Clinton ads and commercials (online and tv) as compared to Trump is night and day. It helps when Clinton has A listers helping with spots like Joss Whedon, versus D listers like Scotty Baio and James Woods.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:24:28am

re: #7 lawhawk

The quality of the Clinton ads and commercials (online and tv) as compared to Trump is night and day. It helps when Clinton has A listers helping with spots like Joss Whedon, versus D listers like Scotty Baio and James Woods.

Biao has to look up to see the D list.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:26:56am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:27:30am

re: #7 lawhawk

The quality of the Clinton ads and commercials (online and tv) as compared to Trump is night and day. It helps when Clinton has A listers helping with spots like Joss Whedon, versus D listers like Scotty Baio and James Woods.

Woods actually has/had some acting chops, he’s a three-time Emmy award winner.

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:29:21am

re: #7 lawhawk

The quality of the Clinton ads and commercials (online and tv) as compared to Trump is night and day. It helps when Clinton has A listers helping with spots like Joss Whedon, versus D listers like Scotty Baio and James Woods.

Very true. The national-media Trump ads I’ve seen have been fairly-well produced, but devoid of much emotion, or, for that matter, much content of any kind. The contrast between the vague and anodyne TV ads and The Donald’s real-life ranting and raving extremism is pretty pronounced.

And, if his Twitter output is anything to go by, would they really WANT James Woods to have a more public role in the Trump campaign?

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:35:10am

re: #7 lawhawk

The quality of the Clinton ads and commercials (online and tv) as compared to Trump is night and day. It helps when Clinton has A listers helping with spots like Joss Whedon, versus D listers like Scotty Baio and James Woods.

As derpy as guys like Woods and Voight are, they can definitely act. I’m with you on Baio though…has he even done anything since Charles in Charge?

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:40:12am

And I get that Woods has some acting chops and has won awards/accolades in the past. But Woods isn’t producing ads or appearing in media produced by the Trump campaign.

He’s not engaged in the same way other A listers have thrown their support to Clinton.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:41:52am
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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:41:55am

OT: Trae Crowder’s closing statement. (NSFW language)

Liberal Redneck - An Appeal to Sanity

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:43:01am

OMG! Instant tears.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:43:10am

re: #12 danarchy

Bob Loblaw - English

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:43:38am
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:44:20am
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mmmirele  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:44:52am

Just when you think all of your college friends and acquaintances are sliding off into sedate middle age, one comes along to take a pickaxe to Donald Trump’s Hollywood Walk of Fame star.

I lived with Jamie in an off campus co-op called The Ark in the early 80s. This was in Austin, Texas.

deadline.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:45:24am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:46:02am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

BIAS! RIGGED ELECTION!!!

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:48:44am

Has anyone else gotten the two ad blocks here at LGF that are constantly loading and never actually complete the process? All you see is the rotating circle.

One is in the sidebar just below the donation block and the other is at the bottom of the main post and just above the Jump to Bottom button?

It has been going on for a few days. It’s not causing any issues just looks weird. I’m using Chrome mostly and I wonder if they are ads dependent on Flash that I have disabled.

When the mouse is over them no address shows but if clicked on, which I did by accident, the bottom one went to a YouTube page.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:49:42am

The beginning of the ad reminds me of the beginning of this video. People like these are why you will be able to stay, mija.

MUJER SOY - Las Cafeteras (Yukicito Remix)

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:50:00am

Polls and more polls - it appears Drumpfskind isn’t doing as bad some say… or not… who knows?

New polls show Clinton flagging in New Hampshire, Texas, Florida

Hillary Clinton lost ground against Donald Trump in a number of new polls released Wednesday. A new Monmouth University poll shows Clinton’s lead in New Hampshire narrowing to 4 points in the four-way race among likely voters, though RealClearPolitics shows Clinton ahead by an average of about 7 points in the Granite State. Clinton had also pursued a long-shot push into Texas in recent weeks, even airing a TV ad there, but a new poll by Crosswind/American-Statesman Texas Pulse shows Trump with a comfortable 7-point lead. Perhaps most encouraging for Trump supporters, a new Bloomberg Politics poll shows Trump beating Clinton by 2 points in must-win Florida, though the RealClearPolitics average has Clinton up 3.1 points in the state. Nationally, the RealClearPolitics average shows Clinton up by 4.7 points in the four-way race.

I will be very surprised if Clinton wins TX. I think some people have become a bit giddy with the implosion of the Drumpfskind campaign and presumed that states will fall for Clinton which previously were “safe” for Republicans.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:50:45am

Well, that sure got me in the feels.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:51:15am

re: #19 Kragar

There is a “hidden Trump vote,” that isn’t being captured by pollsters: floridapolitics.com #flapol
— Florida GOP

So say all losing candidates going back to the campaign of 1872.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:51:29am
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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:52:04am

re: #10 Timothy Watson

Woods actually has/had some acting chops, he’s a three-time Emmy award winner.

Yeah, he is talented. So sad to see he is such a dick about politics. I still think his doing Citizen Cohn caused his body to be invaded by the evil spirit of Roy Cohn and turned Woods into a complete nutjob asshole.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:52:52am

Regarding that latest Texas poll:

Statesman poll shows Trump with small but safe lead over Clinton

[…]

In perhaps the most surprising result, Trump had a larger lead with Texas women than with Texas men. Trump led 43 percent to 39 percent with men, and 46 percent to 38 percent with women.

[…]

Clinton is leading Trump among black voters, 77 percent to 17 percent, and leading among Hispanic voters, 56 percent to 24 percent.

[…]

It all sounds a bit… odd.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:53:14am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

I asked Cruz if there should be votes on Clinton court nominees if GOP holds Senate. He said there’s plenty of precedent for <9 justices.
— Dave Weigel

GOP 2005: Give every nominee (of ours) an up or down vote! Up or down vote!!!

GOP 2016: Meh. SCOTUS can have 6 or even 5 justices. Whatevs.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:53:44am

re: #28 Kragar

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:53:58am

re: #25 freetoken

Wonder why that one FL poll is getting so much attention. Several others in FL show her still ahead.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:54:23am

re: #33 Sir John Barron

We need a horserace.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:54:29am

re: #25 freetoken

I will be very surprised if Clinton wins TX. I think some people have become a bit giddy

It’s Texas. They’ve become a bit giddyap. They’re going to the polls in record numbers. I won’t be surprised either way by Texas.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:54:31am

re: #12 danarchy

According to IMDB he has.

Never heard of any of them though.

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jeffreyw  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:55:07am

Lunch? Biscuits make it better!

Imgur

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Stanley Sea  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:55:10am

re: #15 makeitstop

OT: Trae Crowder’s closing statement. (NSFW language)

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Video

Love that he brought up Tennessee football. YUP.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:56:13am

re: #33 Sir John Barron

Wonder why that one FL poll is getting so much attention. Several others in FL show her still ahead.

You just answered your own question.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:57:23am

re: #37 jeffreyw

Lunch? Biscuits make it better!

[Embedded content]

Dropped or rolled? Those look rolled, then dropped.

Edited to add: I clicked your nic and through to the recipe. Thanks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:58:49am
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:59:07am

What a misshapen mutant.

Image: proxy.jpg

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 11:59:21am

re: #19 Kragar

There are “hidden Trump voters,” that aren’t being captured by pollsters, because they’re dug in to coral caves on far-flung Pacific atolls, and have no idea the war is over.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:00:11pm

re: #25 freetoken

Polls and more polls - it appears Drumpfskind isn’t doing as bad some say… or not… who knows?

New polls show Clinton flagging in New Hampshire, Texas, Florida

I will be very surprised if Clinton wins TX. I think some people have become a bit giddy with the implosion of the Drumpfskind campaign and presumed that states will fall for Clinton which previously were “safe” for Republicans.

As a Texan, I’m not expecting Clinton to win the state. But anything that scares Republicans is a plus right now, especially if it forces them to spend money here.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:01:42pm

From that Statesman article:

According to the survey of 800 likely Texas voters conducted by Crosswind Media & Public Relations and Pulse Opinion Research, Trump has 45 percent support to 38 percent for Clinton with 7 percent for Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson and 10 percent not sure.

I thought Pulse sounded familiar. Here is a story from 2010/2011:

What Do Rasmussen And Pulse Opinion Research Have In Common?

The answer (as reported earlier today by Political Wire) is that Pulse is a “field service” spun off of of Rasmussen Reports that conducts their well known automated, recorded-voice surveys. It also conducts polls for other clients including, as of today, Fox News. While the questions asked on specific surveys may differ, the underlying methodology used by Fox/Pulse and Rasmussen are essentially identical.

Also, the other actor, Crosswind Media & Public Relations, is a PR firm. Why can’t the Statesman just hire Pulse directly? Why is there a PR firm in the mix?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:02:23pm

re: #20 mmmirele

Just when you think all of your college friends and acquaintances are sliding off into sedate middle age, one comes along to take a pickaxe to Donald Trump’s Hollywood Walk of Fame star.

I lived with Jamie in an off campus co-op called The Ark in the early 80s. This was in Austin, Texas.

deadline.com

Here he is talking to TMZ

tmz.com

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:03:00pm

re: #43 jaunte

Physics threw out the hidden variable explanation along time ago, e.g. John Bell.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:03:31pm

re: #20 mmmirele

Just when you think all of your college friends and acquaintances are sliding off into sedate middle age, one comes along to take a pickaxe to Donald Trump’s Hollywood Walk of Fame star.

I lived with Jamie in an off campus co-op called The Ark in the early 80s. This was in Austin, Texas.

deadline.com

That’s crazy!

Also - I didn’t know they took video. It kinda gives the lie to his claim that he was trying to ‘remove’ it, though.

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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:05:10pm

Question for anyone who’s experienced this one way or the other - do GOTV text messages generally work, or do they backfire because they’re perceived as spam? I ask because I’m curious if this is worth a shot:

Avaaz is partnering with progressive group NextGen Climate who have created a unique and effective way for anyone in the world to help turn out young voters in the U.S., by simply text-messaging them with just a computer and internet connection (no phone is necessary).

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piratedan  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:06:06pm

re: #43 jaunte

I was just going to suggest that they are the people that never bothered to register to vote but who end up bitching and staying pissed all of the time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:08:52pm
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jeffreyw  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:10:44pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

Dropped or rolled? Those look rolled, then dropped.

Kneaded, then cut and shaped by hand. Brushed with milk and baked at 425. [Recipe for biscuits.]

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:11:55pm
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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:12:53pm

Orbán and Hungary still generating headlines:

Hungarian science spat, Kuwait’s DNA law and a transparency milestone

Hungary premier splits science academy Five foreign members of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences (HAS) have resigned in protest at what they consider to be antidemocratic actions by the populist government of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán (pictured) — and the academy’s failure to confront them. The protest was prompted by the closure this month of the country’s largest quality newspaper, Népszabadság, which had been critical of the government. On 19 October, the five, including Nobel-prizewinning neuroscientist Torsten Wiesel, published an open letter inviting other external members to resign and calling on the academy to “raise its voice in defence of freedom and justice in Hungary”. More than 150 academicians and HAS scientists published an open letter to academy president László Lovász on 14 October asking him to launch scholarly debates on the issues. He responded that the academy is not a political organization.

Eastern Europe, from my rather distant perspective, appears to be still going through withdrawal from the Soviet empire.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:13:17pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:13:55pm

re: #52 jeffreyw

Kneaded, then cut and shaped by hand. Brushed with milk and baked at 425. [Recipe for biscuits.]

I just edited the post you replied to with thanks for the recipe. I’m slow, but grateful.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:15:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:18:51pm
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:18:58pm

re: #57 Kragar

He took his sweet time.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:20:30pm

Facebook is filled with this stuff, which is leaching into my wall:

Facebook Post

Facebook Post

And so on.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:21:35pm
I guess I better do some exposes on the Jewish mafia

Please, please do. Preferably before the election day.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:21:50pm

re: #60 freetoken

Facebook is filled with this stuff, which is leaching into my wall:

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And so on.

I can’t do the book of faces at work. What is it?

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:22:16pm

re: #62 Belafon

I can’t do the book of faces at work. What is it?

Just the typical misogyny, aimed at Kelly.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:22:52pm

re: #61 Nyet

Bugsy Siegel couldn’t be reached for comment. /

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Mike Lamb  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:24:01pm

re: #19 Kragar

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I actually think the opposite might happen…Republicans being pressured/forced to say they support Trump, but then vote Clinton once they reach the safe anonymity of the voting booth.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:24:21pm

re: #60 freetoken

Fresh from my junk conservative email: “how to think about the Gingrich interview.”

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:24:28pm

Then again, he’s already sympathetically interviewed David Duke.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:25:43pm

re: #66 jaunte

Thing is, on those Facebook posts there are women who are cheering on the ugly. Not many, but some.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:26:26pm

re: #68 freetoken

Yes, they won’t all be changing their minds.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:27:34pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

There is a precedent for <9 because the Senate refuses to vote on nominees? Was that the Garland Precedent of ‘16?

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weave  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:27:34pm

re: #25 freetoken

Polls and more polls - it appears Drumpfskind isn’t doing as bad some say… or not… who knows?

I’m nervous. And I have some Bernie-bot friends who are still gun-ho on Stein who I can’t convince to come around — one of them is in Colorado, which could be a swing state.

Then other typical young voters who are the typical “I’m not going to vote because the system is rigged” bullshitters.

Drives me up the fucking wall.

Meanwhile the Trump voters are HIGHLY motivated and WILL be out there voting.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:27:38pm
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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:28:16pm

re: #60 freetoken

Facebook is filled with this stuff, which is leaching into my wall:

And so on.

Kelly cleaned his fat ol’ clock if you ask me.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:28:49pm

re: #68 freetoken

My business partner was just telling me about his wife’s sisters being divided on the subject of Trump/Clinton; reminded me of some of the stories of brother vs. brother in the run up to the civil war.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:29:18pm

re: #65 Mike Lamb

I actually think the opposite might happen…Republicans being pressured/forced to say they support Trump, but then vote Clinton once they reach the safe anonymity of the voting booth.

Lots of Trump supporting men don’t know their wives are voting for Hillary.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:29:23pm

That add made me tear up, seriously.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:30:49pm

re: #71 weave

I’m nervous. And I have some Bernie-bot friends who are still gun-ho on Stein who I can’t convince to come around — one of them is in Colorado, which could be a swing state.

Then other typical young voters who are the typical “I’m not going to vote because the system is rigged” bullshitters.

Drives me up the fucking wall.

Meanwhile the Trump voters are HIGHLY motivated and WILL be out there voting.

The young voters, as a whole are OK. They support Clinton over any other candidate by a larger amount than any other age group.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:30:52pm

Marybeth Glenn:

I fought on behalf of my principles while other women told me I hated my own sex. Not only charges of sexism, but I defended@marcorubio during Go8, I fought in my state to stop the@ScottWalker recall, etc… Now some Trojan horse nationalist sexual predator invades the @GOP, eating it alive, and you cowards sit this one out? He treats women like dogs, and you go against everything I - and other female conservatives - said you were & back down like cowards.

Get this straight: We don’t need you to stand up for us, YOU needed to stand up for us for YOU. For YOUR dignity. For YOUR reputation. Jeff Sessions says that he wouldn’t “characterize” Trump’s unauthorized groping of women as “assault.”

Are you kidding me?!
theatlantic.com;

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:31:14pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:32:01pm

re: #71 weave

I’m nervous. And I have some Bernie-bot friends who are still gun-ho on Stein who I can’t convince to come around — one of them is in Colorado, which could be a swing state.

Then other typical young voters who are the typical “I’m not going to vote because the system is rigged” bullshitters.

Drives me up the fucking wall.

Meanwhile the Trump voters are HIGHLY motivated and WILL be out there voting.

A friend of mine had a great idea. Start a #Trumpboycott and tweet it to @realDonaldTrump to boycott the election because its rigged. See if we can get something started.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:32:51pm

Got a live one… Wheeee

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:34:42pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:35:57pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:36:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:38:12pm

re: #84 lawhawk

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:38:58pm
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Mike Lamb  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:39:10pm

re: #82 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Got a live one… Wheeee

And here I thought that strict constructionists/”constitutionalists” believed that if a given power was not expressly authorized in the Constitution, then it didn’t exist/was a right reserved to the states…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:40:51pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:41:25pm

re: #66 jaunte

Fresh from my junk conservative email: “how to think about the Gingrich interview.”

[Embedded content]

Hurr, hurr libtard media Fox OWNED!!!!

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:41:31pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Not the chandelier!

When we were kids, we’d always look at the one in the dining room. ‘Did I just feel something?’ ‘Oh, yeah. Look at it go!’

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:43:21pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

snopes.com

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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:45:41pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:47:46pm

Another great has passed during this craptacular year.

Robert A. “Bob” Hoover has died at age 94

Hoover, who began flying in 1937 at Berry Field in Nashville, Tennessee, almost came to an early end. While serving in the Army’s 52nd Fighter Group in Sicily during World War II, he flew more than 50 missions before being shot down. He survived the crash and spent months in a prisoner-of-war camp before he escaped, stole a German fighter plane and flew to safety in The Netherlands.

Perhaps overshadowed by Chuck Yeager, Bob Hoover was arguably the better pilot. The world was better for his being here.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:48:27pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart

And nobody will notice that it doesn’t have the blue check mark, indicating that it’s really from Trump. People are stupid.

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electrotek  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:49:39pm

re: #94 William Lewis

Another great has passed during this craptacular year.

Robert A. “Bob” Hoover has died at age 94

Perhaps overshadowed by Chuck Yeager, Bob Hoover was arguably the better pilot. The world was better for his being here.

Blue skies ahead, soldier. Welcome home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:50:12pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:54:36pm

re: #60 freetoken

Facebook is filled with this stuff, which is leaching into my wall:

[Embedded content]

And so on.

Megyn Kelly seems to be getting the full treatment of the butthurt right wing nutjobs. Good.

Add in the revelations about ex-boss Roger Ailes and I wonder if Ms. Kelly is beginning to wonder about what working at FOX News is doing to her career and her soul.

Anyway, it has been quite the year at FOX News…I hope it continues and the Murdoch sons are forced to make a change up in their thinking. and who they want as viewers. It would do this country a lot of good to get them out of feeding the crazy.

Besides they may have some competition for the same asshole viewers. Very soon I hear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:54:41pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:54:47pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

That does not look good.

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2016 • 12:59:13pm

re: #95 Sionainn

And nobody will notice that it doesn’t have the blue check mark, indicating that it’s really from Trump. People are stupid.

It’s typical of trump. That’s why so many people believe it.

That’s not stupid, it’s regression analysis. /half

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:00:51pm

re: #29 ObserverArt

Yeah, he is talented. So sad to see he is such a dick about politics. I still think his doing Citizen Cohn caused his body to be invaded by the evil spirit of Roy Cohn and turned Woods into a complete nutjob asshole.

And I thought it was because he played Hades in Hercules.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:03:54pm
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:07:44pm

Anyone want to crush a Trumper’s hopes and dreams?

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:10:54pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:10:57pm

re: #82 lawhawk

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Got a live one… Wheeee

His twit bio is certified RWNJ.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:12:11pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:15:15pm

re: #104 Kragar

Okay people lets get a real poll out there to show the main stream media they are lying! “So vote and RE-TWEET” who are you voting for?
— wear RED on Nov 8th

Science. How does it work?

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:16:39pm

But still, my sister-in-law in Colombia got her PhD last week. Her thesis was about frogs.

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ipsos  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:16:53pm

The ratfcking continues in earnest. A friend in NC found this FB page, purporting to be the “Craven County Board of Elections,” complete with a photo of a Trump sign as the header pic.

The pic has changed, but the fake page is still up…for now.

facebook.com

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:17:59pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

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Damn, SC gets an elk and all we get up here in MA is freakin rattlesnakes…

mass.gov

My opinion, our ancestors worked damn hard to clear those rattlesnakes from MA, we should respect their effort.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:18:27pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:19:14pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

Megyn Kelly seems to be getting the full treatment of the butthurt right wing nutjobs. Good.

Add in the revelations about ex-boss Roger Ailes and I wonder if Ms. Kelly is beginning to wonder about what working at FOX News is doing to her career and her soul.

Anyway, it has been quite the year at FOX News…I hope it continues and the Murdoch sons are forced to make a change up in their thinking. and who they want as viewers. It would do this country a lot of good to get them out of feeding the crazy.

Besides they may have some competition for the same asshole viewers. Very soon I hear.

I’ve heard that she wants to move to a mainstream network. Fox won’t quit feeding the crazy because that’s what generates their profits.

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electrotek  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:21:34pm

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

I’ve heard that she wants to move to a mainstream network. Fox won’t quit feeding the crazy because that’s what generates their profits.

Even if she moves to a “mainstream” network, I would still be skeptical of her. She’s not exactly so keen on blacks and Muslims either.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:23:09pm

re: #108 Sir John Barron

The guy deleted the poll. LOL.

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:24:15pm

re: #105 Kragar

He blocked me AND deleted the poll.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:24:15pm

“Ahead of schedule and under budget” usually equates to “shoddy work and substandard materials”.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:24:28pm

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

And I thought it was because he played Hades in Hercules.

After doing that comment about Cohn in #29 I decided to take a look at his wiki page.

Just one entry in Cohn’s book of questionable lawyering that still hangs with us this very election:

Wikipedia - Roy Cohn

Later career[edit]

Cohn aided Roger Stone in Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign in 1979-80. Cohn helped Stone arrange for John B. Anderson to get the nomination of the Liberal Party of New York, a move that would help split the opposition to Reagan in the state. Stone said Cohn gave him a suitcase that Stone avoided opening and, as instructed by Cohn, dropped it off at the office of a lawyer influential in Liberal Party circles. Reagan carried the state with 46 percent of the vote. Speaking after the statute of limitations for bribery had expired, Stone later said, “I paid his law firm. Legal fees. I don’t know what he did for the money, but whatever it was, the Liberal party reached its right conclusion out of a matter of principle.”[26]

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:24:31pm

re: #115 Kragar

When I checked, immediately after your first post, Hillary’s lead grew quickly. Heck, even I voted.

Nutso probably is trying to figure out how to game his next poll.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:25:08pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:25:23pm

re: #111 danarchy

Damn, SC gets an elk and all we get up here in MA is freakin rattlesnakes…

mass.gov

My opinion, our ancestors worked damn hard to clear those rattlesnakes from MA, we should respect their effort.

If we make the wilderness totally safe for people, we have no more wilderness. At least rattlesnakes give fair warning.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:25:28pm

re: #116 MsJ

He blocked me AND deleted the poll.

Flawless Victory.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:26:50pm

re: #120 Kragar

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:27:12pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

So he went 20% over the projected word budget.

What are you, some kind of communist scaredy woman?

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:29:33pm

Heh.

That plane banner is … at least half true. Trump did offer to buy the Indians, but it’s not clear that he would have moved the team.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:29:58pm

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

re: #114 electrotek

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:30:23pm

re: #120 Kragar

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Yeah Joe grab a 18th century weapon against the government. I’m sure they’re just petrified of your sorry ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:32:19pm

re: #115 Kragar

The guy deleted the poll. LOL.

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Walter is sad because other people voted…

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:32:31pm

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

I’ve heard that she wants to move to a mainstream network. Fox won’t quit feeding the crazy because that’s what generates their profits.

Right now yes. But they do feed a generation that may be fading fast and if the Breitbart/Trump thing is real they could take the next generation of viewers from FOX. FOX will be blamed for Trump failure and Megyn Kelly will be one of the reasons. SO part of being profitable is catering to an audience. I think the audience is changing.

And there have been some rumblings the Murdoch sons may be wanting a change too. Maybe they are seeing a market move.

If it comes to it, the newer nut jobs will Watch Breitbart Trump TV and bathe in the slime!

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A wild (((wolfy))) has appeared  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:32:32pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Yeah Joe grab a 18th century weapon against the government. I’m sure they’re just petrified of your sorry ass.

And he’ll ride a horse to the battle.

No, wait, that was bayonets and horses.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:33:14pm

re: #120 Kragar

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His mentions are full of laughter.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:34:32pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

Walter is sad because other people voted…

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Congressman Joe Walsh and this poll-loser. Put them together and you get an avalanche of derp.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:34:33pm

Dallas Cow-ploys
Although rumors of “vote switching” in Texas are rampant, we found only one case in which a report was investigated, and it was found to be unsubstantiated.

http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:35:12pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:36:00pm

re: #120 Kragar

I prefer Joe Walshes who live in hotels and tear out the walls.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:36:37pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:37:32pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:38:00pm

re: #133 Rightwingconspirator

Dallas Cow-ploys
Although rumors of “vote switching” in Texas are rampant, we found only one case in which a report was investigated, and it was found to be unsubstantiated.

http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/

Somebody tweeted this “story” the other day and I asked him how voter ID laws would fix this. No answer. I disappoint.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:39:19pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:40:36pm

re: #120 Kragar

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How’d did this moran’s threat to “take on the feds” in NC work out?

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:41:37pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

“Ahead of schedule and under budget” usually equates to “shoddy work and substandard materials”.

Not to mention “dubious compliance with safety standards and employment regulations”

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:42:39pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

Currently Fox News has some of the most watched daily programs on cable TV in the US. They are not going to want to lose that. The trio of OReilly, Kelly, and Hannity average about 2.5 million people per hour, on the most watched nights (Monday, Tuesday) even higher at times of the year.

Murdoch is old and can hang on for but a few more years. Whoever runs the corporation after him has bigger fish to fry. Fox News is his ideological baby, but corporate wise it is just a fraction of their business.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:43:04pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:43:45pm

re: #143 Kragar

Libtards ruin and corrupt everything.

/

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:44:17pm

The reason Fox’s The Simpsons can make fun of Fox News is because The Simpsons and the regular Fox programming are so much more important and profitable to the corporation.

Fox News blows CNN and MSNBC away as far as ratings, but the viewership is elderly, and thus of not much value to advertisers.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:46:18pm
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:46:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:47:26pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:47:43pm

re: #120 Kragar

On November 9th, if Trump loses, I’m grabbing my musket./blockquote>

I think that’s what lonely RWNJs are calling it now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:47:52pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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I’m preparing to ask out Emmy Rossum too and get a yes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:48:12pm

re: #149 Decatur Deb

This is my musket, this is my gun, and this is for having fun!

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:48:52pm

Of the taking of polls there is no end:

Clinton holds 9-point lead over Trump in new national poll

Hillary Clinton has a nearly double-digit lead over Donald Trump nationally, according to a Suffolk University/USA Today poll released Wednesday afternoon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:49:22pm

yep, same guy involved in the Chinese donation to Trump sting.

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:49:50pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

I’m preparing to ask out Emmy Rossum too and get a yes.

I had to look her up to see who that was…does that mean I am getting old.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:49:58pm

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:51:08pm

re: #139 Kragar

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Yep: today’s RW in a nutshell: “This poll/news report/article doesn’t tell me what I want to hear, so it can’t be real!”

Funny as Twitter trolling, not so hilarious IRL…..

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:52:46pm

I gotta see those pygmy ants. With magnification.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:53:08pm

re: #154 danarchy

I had to look her up to see who that was…does that mean I am getting old.

Nah, not everyone watches Shameless.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:55:29pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yep, same guy involved in the Chinese donation to Trump sting.

From there:

“I am actually quite boring and not much worthy of your ink,” Benton wrote Tuesday in a response to questions about his PAC work. “I am not currently involved with any campaign, but would gladly help any honorable conservative seeking to make a positive change.”

Built in contradiction: if they hire him, they are not honorable.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:56:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:56:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:57:08pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Duh everyone paying attention to you jackasses knew that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 1:59:56pm

Clinton had a longish ad with a woman who was discriminated against by Trump and his father. Tim Kaine does a good job explaining what happened since he was a Civil Rights attorney before he got into elected politics. I think Kaine being a Civil Rights attorney is a huge plus for what he will bring to the table as VP.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:00:28pm
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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:01:15pm

Regarding that latest USA Today poll, question 39:

What TV news or commentary source do you trust the most? {RANDOMIZE 35.1 - 35.9}

(N=1,000) n %

CNN ————————————————————————————————154 15.40

MSNBC ——————————————————————————————- 66 6.60

FOX NEWS———————————————————————————-270 27.00

ABC————————————————————————————————— 69 6.90

NBC ————————————————————————————————- 65 6.50

CBS————————————————————————————————— 77 7.70

C-SPAN —————————————————————————————— 29 2.90

COMEDY CENTRAL—————————————————————— 23 2.30

PBS————————————————————————————————— 61 6.10

UNDECIDED ——————————————————————————-186 18.60

Fox News is the most watched cable new channel, yet as I noted above they are watched by 2 to 3 million people per hour during primetime. Assuming several turnovers per day of watchers, that is still much smaller audience than the major broadcast networks. Yet 27% of poll respondents say their most trusted source is Fox News.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:02:21pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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There’s obviously more to it than DJ is suggesting but even if so, YouTube isn’t the US government. IF he wants to push his proven bs story, he’s got plenty of outlets like DJ and his friends.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:03:02pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

There’s obviously more to it than DJ is suggesting but even if so, YouTube isn’t the US government. IF he wants to push his proven bs story, he’s got plenty of outlets like DJ and his friends.

Or he could always publish on Wikileaks. They’ve never retracted a story, everything they say must be true.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:04:48pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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I was about to ask how that great move, the best move, believe me, by Trump on the day of the last debate, was paying off.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:04:48pm
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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:05:21pm

Question 41 from that poll

How important is religion in your life - very important, somewhat important, not very important or

not at all important?

(N=1,000) n %

Very important —————————————————————————-612 61.20

Somewhat important —————————————————————-216 21.60

Not very important ———————————————————————- 76 7.60

Not at all important———————————————————————- 74 7.40

Undecided —————————————————————————————- 7 0.70

Refused——————————————————————————————- 15 1.50

Note that other surveys, larger and constructed for long term analysis, show that the “nones” are now around 20% of the US population.

I suspect this USA Today poll is over weighting towards religious/Fox viewers.

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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:05:50pm

re: #8 I Would Prefer Not To

Biao has to look up to see the D list.

To crib from Kathy Griffin, Baio’s on the F list.

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bratwurst  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:06:48pm

Our entitlement society!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:08:16pm

re: #172 bratwurst

Our entitlement society!

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They’d be pissed off too if they found out how much their taxes would go up for his wall. Trump supporters and let’s be honest conservatives in general want everything without having to pay for it.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:09:16pm
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Scottishdragon  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:09:47pm

Here is a rather different sort of campaign ad…in a good way.

Please Re-Elect Gerald

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:10:04pm

I just saw a guy who moved about 300 miles away a couple of years ago. I asked him whether he voted before he headed over here. He said, ‘No, I’ll be home by the end of the week. Don’t worry, Hillary’s getting a vote from me.’

I’ve become that person.

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:10:13pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

They’d be pissed off too if they found out how much their taxes would go up for his wall. Trump supporters and let’s be honest conservatives in general want everything without having to pay for it.

I think this is a trait common to all Americans…or maybe just all people

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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:10:13pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

They’d be pissed off too if they found out how much their taxes would go up for his wall. Trump supporters and let’s be honest conservatives in general want everything without having to pay for it.

Butbutbut MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:10:27pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

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Wish there was more distance in Nevada between the two of them but I like those NH numbers.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:11:05pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:11:26pm

re: #170 freetoken

I’ve noticed these guys recently in 538? Who are they?

Auto Alliance / ESA / Pulse Opinion Research

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:11:33pm

re: #177 danarchy

I think this is a trait common to all Americans…or maybe just all people

I agree with that but conservatives in my experiences are often the first to complain about the quality of our roads, schools, etc but then bitch about tax increases. It’s not unique to the right but it’s more prevalent on the right than left because I think the left understands the role taxes play in our society more.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:12:02pm

re: #178 thedopefishlives

Butbutbut MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT!!!!!

Yeah the poor rubes really think that. It’s SAD.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:12:50pm

re: #181 Ziggy_TARDIS

See my earlier post about Pulse. There was a Huffpo piece from 2010/2011 about them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:14:04pm

I think working at a polling firm would be interesting work on a related note. I’m weird though. I sort of like statistical analysis but I am not fond of math in general.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:14:11pm

So a few of my friends IRL have been posting “You know it’s going bad for Hillary if you’ve lost Michael Moore” on their FB walls. I can’t help but laugh at them when asking them to read past the first few lines to get to his point.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:15:33pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Yeah the poor rubes really think that. It’s SAD.

One of my wingnut friends had an actual plan for how Trump could “persuade” Mexico to pay for the wall. I don’t remember the actual approach, but I remember thinking that it would cause an international incident and effectively torpedo relations with our neighbors to the south.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:16:16pm

re: #186 GlutenFreeJesus

So a few of my friends IRL have been posting “You know it’s going bad for Hillary if you’ve lost Michael Moore” on their FB walls. I can’t help but laugh at them when asking them to read past the first few lines to get to his point.

Michael Moore was saying it was lost in the summer. I think often than not Moore’s heart is in the right place but he’s not a solid political analyst at all.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:16:49pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

Wish there was more distance in Nevada between the two of them but I like those NH numbers.

Yeah these state polls have been all over the place.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:17:09pm

re: #187 thedopefishlives

One of my wingnut friends had an actual plan for how Trump could “persuade” Mexico to pay for the wall. I don’t remember the actual approach, but I remember thinking that it would cause an international incident and effectively torpedo relations with our neighbors to the south.

I’m sure it would. Just glad we’re going to have an adult in charge of our FP. I shudder to think of Trump possibly having Flynn at DOD and Bolton at DOS.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:17:39pm

re: #189 Sir John Barron

Yeah these state polls have been all over the place.

We’ll find out for sure in 13 long days.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:17:49pm
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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:17:53pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

We’ll find out for sure in 13 long days.

The only poll that is 100% accurate.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:17:58pm

re: #165 freetoken

Regarding that latest USA Today poll, question 39:

Fox News is the most watched cable new channel, yet as I noted above they are watched by 2 to 3 million people per hour during primetime. Assuming several turnovers per day of watchers, that is still much smaller audience than the major broadcast networks. Yet 27% of poll respondents say their most trusted source is Fox News.

‘Friends’ reruns draw more viewers than Fox News.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:18:13pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

We’ll find out for sure in 13 long days.

I’m voting tomorrow. Does VA have early voting?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:20:38pm

Both my mother and I voted (Monday). And just got confirmation email that the county got my dad’s mail-in ballot. 3 votes for Hillary, Tammy, and Brad Schneider.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:20:50pm

re: #195 Sir John Barron

I’m voting tomorrow.

Me too!

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:20:52pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

We’ll find out for sure in 13 long days.

Haven’t you heard? We’ll never know for sure who won because Soros has rigged all the machines to lie.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:21:01pm

re: #195 Sir John Barron

I’m voting tomorrow. Does VA have early voting?

I’m not sure as I’ve never done it before. I don’t have a big precinct so I don’t mind voting in person.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:21:02pm

re: #192 Charles Johnson

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Our local Greensboro “conservative” weekly rag The Rhino Times and editor John Hammer have been drowning deep in the kool aid for Trump.

Reading Hammer today whining about the unfair media and the “skewed polls” brought a tear of happiness to my eyes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:21:49pm

re: #200 Scottishdragon

Our local Greensboro “conservative” weekly rag The Rhino Times and editor John Hammer have been drowning deep in the kool aid for Trump.

Reading Hammer today whining about the unfair media and the “skewed polls” brought a tear of happiness to my eyes.

I personally love it when people who are part of the media and have been so for a long time whine about the media i.e. anyone on FNC who whines about the media. It’s like uh don’t you guys always brag about how popular you are.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:21:57pm

re: #198 freetoken

Haven’t you heard? We’ll never know for sure who won because Soros has rigged all the machines to lie.

Actual text from the senior fish: “Voting early tomorrow because I don’t trust the machines. Paper ballots, no hanging chads for me.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:22:20pm

re: #192 Charles Johnson

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What I’m hoping for is HRC gets over 50% and Trump under 40%. That would be huuuuuuuuuuuge and a good harbinger for down ticket races.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:22:49pm

re: #172 bratwurst

Our entitlement society!

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Just like in his campaign, they probably think the rich guy with the big mouth can self-fund this TV gig. He’s got all the bucks and the connections…he’s the big business guy.

Trump has to realize, these Breitbart Trump TV people have no money. They’ve asked for the GOP trickling down economics on them and hucksters like Trump have ripped them off for so long they got no bucks to pay for anything.

They’ll gladly watch though.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:29:28pm

Regarding the NBC/WSJ Nevada poll:

But the new poll shows that the Latino vote has shifted in Mr. Trump’s direction over the past month. Mrs. Clinton still has a solid lead among Hispanics, 52%-36%, but last month her margin was almost twice as wide, 59%-28%.

Is Drumpfskind correct in his assertion that Latino’s love him?

Note that Nevada poll had only 707 respondents. The poll data is behind a paywall so I can’t see it, but I wonder how many of those 707 self label as “hispanic”? The moe on that subgroup is probably up around 10%.

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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:29:31pm

re: #94 William Lewis

Another great has passed during this craptacular year.

Robert A. “Bob” Hoover has died at age 94

Perhaps overshadowed by Chuck Yeager, Bob Hoover was arguably the better pilot. The world was better for his being here.

And a native Nashvillian who began his flying career here at Berry Field (the former name for Nashville International Airport [whose IATA airport code is still B(erry Field)NA(shville) because of it; the TN ANG still has a big presence there]).

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:30:51pm

re: #205 freetoken

Every other poll shows shows things differently for Nevada.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:30:51pm

Pretty much the news cycle now is bandwagon engineering, with all this emphasis on who is winning the “polls”.

But few people read the fine print.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:31:06pm

re: #115 Kragar

The guy deleted the poll. LOL.

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I reminded him. lol

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:31:23pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:31:53pm

Jim Wright on the Newt - Kelly battle royale…

Facebook Post

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:32:24pm

re: #197 wrenchwench

Me too!

I went to the post office to have mine mailed so that I made sure I had proper postage and that it was post marked right off. The Ohio/Columbus ballot this year was pretty weighty when it was all stuffed in the envelope.

1 for Hillary and Tim
1 for Ted Strickland for Senate
1 for Joyce Beatty for Congress

Etc.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:33:41pm

re: #125 lawhawk

Heh.

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That plane banner is … at least half true. Trump did offer to buy the Indians, but it’s not clear that he would have moved the team.

What is a sure thing. If he bought the Indians, they wouldn’t be around today.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:35:47pm

We’ve found out where the Putin troll farms are focusing their offensive:

Seriously, a couple of thousand trollskis could easily post millions of messages a day, considering that many of them would be repeats.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:37:32pm

re: #120 Kragar

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:37:37pm

re: #165 freetoken

Regarding that latest USA Today poll, question 39:

Fox News is the most watched cable new channel, yet as I noted above they are watched by 2 to 3 million people per hour during primetime. Assuming several turnovers per day of watchers, that is still much smaller audience than the major broadcast networks. Yet 27% of poll respondents say their most trusted source is Fox News.

There’s that 27% number again. Funny how that number is so prominent in right wing circles.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:39:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:41:56pm
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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:41:56pm

re: #214 Shiplord Kirel

We’ve found out where the Putin troll farms are focusing their offensive:

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I saw this on my wingnut friend’s timeline. I shook my head and laughed.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:42:45pm

Still reading The Fireman. Still interesting. Albeit I’m not a fan of the Lord of the Flies moments.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:43:10pm

Anyway, my takeaway from Facebook is that there are many people for whom posting fake news stories from fake news sites is somehow their “thing”. They just gravitate towards doing that.

Now, on my Facebook wall these people correlate 100% to supposedly very “religious” people.

It would be easy for me to surmise that if one is an easy mark for a religious leader than one will be an easy mark for peddlers of any nonsense. But maybe that is too easy?

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:44:13pm
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:44:37pm
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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:45:15pm

re: #120 Kragar

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How about “I’ll be in to defend the nation against scum like you.”?

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:45:32pm

re: #208 freetoken

In the data for NBC/WSJ Marist poll from September (latest posted) the break down of registered voters was 62% white, 8% black, 20% hispanic, 10% other.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:45:43pm

Oh look, another story about a poll:

More Republicans expect Clinton to win U.S. election than Trump: poll

More Republicans now think Democrat Hillary Clinton will win the presidency than Donald Trump, as their party’s candidate struggles with difficulties including allegations of sexual misconduct and his suggestion he may not honor the outcome of the election.

[…]

I’ve noticed Reuters tend to get many wire stories out of each poll.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:46:59pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Michael Moore was saying it was lost in the summer. I think often than not Moore’s heart is in the right place but he’s not a solid political analyst at all.

His skill is in persuasion and film-making, not political analysis. Even if he feels sure Clinton will win, telling people Trump might win gets people out to vote for Clinton.

I watched Michael Moore in Trumpland yesterday. I think it’ll persuade a lot of Conservative women to vote for Clinton if they see it.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:47:34pm

re: #225 Single-handed sailor

Thanks. But I’m wondering about this latest Nevada poll. The surge in pro-Drumpfskind identified-latinos strikes me as odd and suggests insufficient sampling.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:48:23pm

re: #228 freetoken

Thanks. But I’m wondering about this latest Nevada poll. The surge in pro-Drumpfskind identified-latinos strikes me as odd and suggests insufficient sampling.

They’re afraid of oversampling. //

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:49:01pm

I have just discovered that one of our rare wingnuts is a clinical idiot.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:49:24pm

re: #224 William Lewis

How about “I’ll be in to defend the nation against scum like you.”?

You want the Scottishdragon for that:

re: #180 Scottishdragon

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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:52:14pm

re: #120 Kragar

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:52:38pm

With so many states early voting, exit polling will be worth a lot less. They’ll have to hold off calling some states until much later in the evening, I would think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:52:56pm

re: #230 Nyet

I have just discovered that one of our rare wingnuts is a clinical idiot.

littlegreenfootballs.com

reading comprehension is really hard for him.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:53:16pm

re: #230 Nyet

I have just discovered that one of our rare wingnuts is a clinical idiot.

littlegreenfootballs.com

I think the clinic here is more specialized in diagnosing wingnuts than idiots.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:54:36pm

re: #229 Belafon

Well, the Sept Nevada poll data that Single-handed sailor linked showed 22% “latino” in the pool, 20% registered voters, 17% likely voters. That means a total of 185 “latinos”. That’s a pretty small pool from which to draw a conclusion. Note that Sept poll also split by gender the likely voters 49% male, 51% female. But especially this year we surely expect the female voters to be a larger share of the actual ballots cast.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:54:48pm

re: #230 Nyet

I have just discovered that one of our rare wingnuts is a clinical idiot.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Couldn’t see that the E-Mail was TO Podesta, not from. Caught a couple of Lizards as well.

From:orca100@upcmail.nl

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:56:09pm

re: #232 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Nah, the FBI won’t matter. He forgot to pack his brown pants…

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Scottishdragon  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:56:42pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

You want the Scottishdragon for that:

;)

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Bubblehead II  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:57:34pm

Lizards, calling it a day. As usual, May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2016 • 2:58:40pm

re: #233 Belafon

With so many states early voting, exit polling will be worth a lot less. They’ll have to hold off calling some states until much later in the evening, I would think.

Not sure about that, early voting and votes mailed in up to a few days in advance will be reported either before or right as the polls close. So the exit polls should be adjusted for that to make their predictions even more accurate, not less.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:00:12pm

re: #233 Belafon

With so many states early voting, exit polling will be worth a lot less. They’ll have to hold off calling some states until much later in the evening, I would think.

Maybe they can use the early vote totals added to the exit polls they do get and be even better at predicting the outcomes. They can take those early votes and start using them as soon as polling places close and get a good head start.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:01:00pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:01:25pm

re: #228 freetoken

You would think you would see similar behavior, at least regionally.

However, there is not a lick of evidence to support this from nearby states where this could be a factor, namely Arizona and Colorado. And California.

Something seems fuck-y.

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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:01:45pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:02:24pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:02:52pm

Walsh seems to have a thing for muskets.

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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:03:13pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:03:38pm

re: #245 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

This commercial has been running in central Ohio/Columbus a lot lately.

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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:03:41pm

re: #230 Nyet

I have just discovered that one of our rare wingnuts is a clinical idiot.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:04:51pm

re: #230 Nyet

I have just discovered that one of our rare wingnuts is a clinical idiot.

littlegreenfootballs.com

You go to election evening with the wingnuts you have, not the wingnuts you might want.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:07:38pm

re: #247 Blind Frog Belly White

What good is a musket going to do him without balls?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:12:40pm

An important reminder for the chronically panicked Democrat….

Because what’s a day without a poll-based panic attack?

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:13:48pm

Welp… ask and you shall receive… Marist just posted the data for the October Nevada poll:

Still 17% of the “likely voters” identified as “latino”.

It looks like their method is to try and keep the demographics as close as possible to previous polls. Unless they just copy and pasted the October text from the September text.

But this is important:

There are 707 likely voters defined by a probability turnout model which determines the likelihood respondents will participate in the 2016 Presidential Election based upon their chance of vote, interest in the election, and past election participation.

So if the 17% of 707 (= 120) is what are the number of likely voters who are identified as “latino”, I’d be very cautious about coming to any conclusion about what the changes are within that demographic, as far as showing a surge towards Drumpfskind.

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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:14:24pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:14:50pm

re: #230 Nyet

I have just discovered that one of our rare wingnuts is a clinical idiot.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Or willfully stupid. In politics I’ve stopped bothering with the distinction between ‘clinical idiot’ and ‘willfully stupid”. There’s really no difference there.

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EPR-radar  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:17:16pm

re: #255 gocart mozart

Why would anyone waste their time watching video ‘analysis’ of leaked and likely doctored documents by a notorious loon?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:17:37pm

re: #254 freetoken

Welp… ask and you shall receive… Marist just posted the data for the October Nevada poll:

[Embedded content]

…snip

So if the 17% of 707 (= 120) is what are the number of likely voters who are identified as “latino”, I’d be very cautious about coming to any conclusion about what the changes are within that demographic, as far as showing a surge towards Drumpfskind.

If he can choke down one more Trump taco salad, he’s got the state.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:17:58pm

re: #255 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Hey, HA Goodman found something to do with his time after Hillary didn’t get indicted. I imagine Wikileaks had to send someone over to his apartment and get him to get out of bed, shower and shave for the first time in who knows how long, and put on something other than a T-shirt and sweatpants, and stop playing “All By Myself” on repeat on his iPod.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:19:41pm

re: #255 gocart mozart

“Former State Department official,” my left butt cheek. Goodman worked for the Foreign Service Institute very briefly. It’s basically a training school for support personnel.

Calling him a “former official” because of this is utterly ridiculous.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:19:54pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

“Under budget & Ahead of Schedule”

How does he achieve that?

1. Not paying workers
2. Not following regulations
3. Profit!

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:20:26pm

“American” didn’t make the list.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:20:46pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

“Former State Department official,” my left butt cheek. Goodman worked for the Foreign Service Institute very briefly. It’s basically a training school for support personnel.

Calling him a “former official” because of this is utterly ridiculous.

But it is of a piece with calling emails hacked by the FSB ‘leaks’ and Julian Assange a ‘hero’.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:20:47pm

Previous I remarked on religious marks… and one of the biggest workers in the field is Franklin Graham, who posted this afternoon:

Facebook Post

Work them marks.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:22:05pm

re: #254 freetoken

Again, I would go with the fact that we have seen no movement like that in the region around Nevada either.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:22:06pm

re: #264 freetoken

Previous I remarked on religious marks… and one of the biggest workers in the field is Franklin Graham, who posted this afternoon:

[Embedded content]

Work them marks.

Be nice if someday he’d actually come to Jesus and be born again. Right now he’s just another anti-christian ass.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:23:04pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:23:38pm

re: #266 William Lewis

Be nice if someday he’d actually come to Jesus and be born again. Right now he’s just another anti-christian ass.

Selling everything? Giving to the poor?

You better stay out of the communion wine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:26:08pm

re: #268 Decatur Deb

Selling everything? Giving to the poor?

You better stay out of the communion wine.

Every part of the Bible is the literal word of God, unless it says we have to be nice to people we don’t like! Those are obscure and hard to interpret. They don’t REALLY mean what they appear to mean.

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darthstar  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:26:58pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:27:00pm

Good news:
U.S. Defense Secretary orders Pentagon to stop asking veterans to repay reenlistment bonuses

The U.S. Defense Secretary has demanded the Pentagon to stop forcing California soldiers to pay back reenlistment bonuses they earned a decade ago.

Ash Carter said the Pentagon’s plan to collect improperly granted bonuses from about 10,000 California National Guard soldiers and veterans — some of whom served multiple tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan after they were paid $15,000 or more — must stop “as soon as is practical,” according to a Wednesday statement.

Carter said he has ordered the department to set up a streamlined process by Jan. 1, 2017, which will help the troops get relief from the repayment obligation.

Hold their feet to a hot enough fire long enough and bureaucrats will come around. The heat from this was awesome.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:28:35pm

So to summarize, here is what the WSJ is reporting:

Winning Nevada would be a big accomplishment for Mr. Trump in a once-reliable red state that went Democratic in 2008 and 2012. Democrats have high hopes for winning Nevada because of its large Latino population.

But the new poll shows that the Latino vote has shifted in Mr. Trump’s direction over the past month. Mrs. Clinton still has a solid lead among Hispanics, 52%-36%, but last month her margin was almost twice as wide, 59%-28%.

But if there is only .17*707 = 120 latino likely voters in the pool, same for each month, then:

Sep
Hillary: 70 respondents who are latino likely voters
Drumpf: 33 respondents who are latino likely voters
other: 17 respondents who are latino likely voters

Oct
Hillary: 62 respondents who are latino likely voters
Drumpf: 43 respondents who are latino likely voters
other: 15 respondents who are latino likely voters

Now, I’m not going to play a statistician on the internet, but to me those are pretty small pools of “events” (as we’d call them in physics) from which to make any assertion about a “shift”.

273
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:28:49pm

YAY!

274
KGxvi  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:34:06pm

re: #272 freetoken

So to summarize, here is what the WSJ is reporting:

But if there is only .17*707 = 120 latino likely voters in the pool, same for each month, then:

Sep
Hillary: 70 respondents who are latino likely voters
Drumpf: 33 respondents who are latino likely voters
other: 17 respondents who are latino likely voters

Oct
Hillary: 62 respondents who are latino likely voters
Drumpf: 43 respondents who are latino likely voters
other: 15 respondents who are latino likely voters

Now, I’m not going to play a statistician on the internet, but to me those are pretty small pools of “events” (as we’d call them in physics) from which to make any assertion about a “shift”.

My guess, without digging into the raw numbers to figure it out, is that the margin of error for Latino voters in these polls was probably in the 7-8% range. So the shifts could simply the loudest bit of noise possible, as they both shifted about 7 points. More likely, there was a legitimate shift of a point or two and then the margin of error playing a factor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:34:20pm
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MsJ  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:35:24pm

re: #271 Shiplord Kirel

Good news:
U.S. Defense Secretary orders Pentagon to stop asking veterans to repay reenlistment bonuses

Hold their feet to a hot enough fire long enough and bureaucrats will come around. The heat from this was awesome.

What about the people who took out mortgages to repay this? Those people are getting doubly fucked.

Man, this is infuriating.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:35:25pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember reading A Wrinkle in Time as a kid. Don’t really remember much about it anymore. Though I vaguely recall it being a favorite.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:35:46pm

According to Wikipedia, in Nevada:

As in 2008, Obama owed his victory largely to the state’s Hispanic voters breaking heavily for him. According to exit polls, Hispanics made up 19 percent of the electorate and voted for Obama by almost three-to-one.

So yes, I think the Nevada sampling by Marist is a bit off.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:38:34pm

Somehow we’re to believe that Drumpfskind is significantly more popular to latinos in Nevada than was Romney, whose own father was born in Mexico and who at one time was thought of as one of the less Mexican-bashing of Republicans.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:39:36pm

re: #268 Decatur Deb

Selling everything? Giving to the poor?

You better stay out of the communion wine.

I made the mistake of taking Matthew 25:31-46 seriously.

281
Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:40:55pm

In today’s No Fucks to Give news:

President Obama will be on “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee” on Monday, Oct. 31.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:41:50pm

re: #281 Decatur Deb

In today’s No Fucks to Give news:

President Obama will be on “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee” on Monday, Oct. 31.

That could, quite possibly, turn out to be the most epic comedy episode ever aired.

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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:42:02pm
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MsJ  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:43:09pm

re: #276 MsJ

What about the people who took out mortgages to repay this? Those people are getting doubly fucked.

Man, this is infuriating.

Oh, good. They are reviewing those who already paid, too. It was in NBC Nightly News just now.

285
gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:43:23pm

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s not all.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:43:51pm

As noted by the NYT headlines, weird:

The Least Useful Place for a Republican Nominee to Go?

But what caught my eye is the picture that goes with the story:

Image: 26rollerWeb-master768.jpg

Reifying the Drumpfskind-reality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:44:34pm
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Anymouse  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:45:04pm

Well, I don’t remember who it was yesterday who gave me the WSCR streaming link for the World Series, but thanks. It just went live now, so we get to hear the Series this afternoon.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:45:54pm

re: #288 Anymouse

Well, I don’t remember who it was yesterday who gave me the WSCR streaming link for the World Series, but thanks. It just went live now, so we get to hear the Series this afternoon.

Marvelous! I’m going to go to the basement soon and turn on the game and jump into World of Warcraft.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:47:59pm

re: #286 freetoken

But what caught my eye is the picture that goes with the story

With a black man and a (presumably) Latina woman holding the ribbon.

How…inclusive.
/

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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:51:06pm

re: #252 jaunte

What good is a musket going to do him without balls?

Deadbeat Dad has no balls, indeed.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:51:16pm

re: #282 thedopefishlives

That could, quite possibly, turn out to be the most epic comedy episode ever aired.

They do say that this clip caused the longest episode of audience laughter on live television:

Ed Ames Teaches Johnny Carson to Throw a Tomahawk

Not sure there’s much the president could do to beat that.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:52:52pm

re: #242 ObserverArt

Maybe they can use the early vote totals added to the exit polls they do get and be even better at predicting the outcomes. They can take those early votes and start using them as soon as polling places close and get a good head start.

Would the networks have access to that?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:55:34pm

re: #291 TedStriker

Deadbeat Dad has no balls, indeed.

Tammy Duckworth took ‘em.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2016 • 3:55:55pm

re: #292 KGxvi

They do say that this clip caused the longest episode of audience laughter on live television:

[Embedded content]

Video

Not sure there’s much the president could do to beat that.

OMG the punch line straight out of Mel Brooks.

Dying here.

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EPR-radar  Oct 26, 2016 • 4:02:45pm

re: #266 William Lewis

Be nice if someday he’d actually come to Jesus and be born again. Right now he’s just another anti-christian ass.

Redeeming the deplorables is a significant challenge, even for an omnipotent deity.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 26, 2016 • 4:03:01pm

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

OMG the punch line straight out of Mel Brooks.

Dying here.

You just can’t say that sort of stuff on live TV anymore.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2016 • 4:06:47pm

re: #207 Ziggy_TARDIS

Every other poll shows shows things differently for Nevada.

Just ignore individual polls. 538.com shows Clinton with a 3.5 pt lead in Nevada in its polls only number.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2016 • 4:11:10pm

re: #293 Belafon

Would the networks have access to that?

Well, they get totals as soon as returns come in, that is how they show numbers of percentage in and amount for each candidate as the news shows broadcast and speculate. So, I guess they are getting those from county boards of elections as they get them tabulated. I think they could count the early votes as soon as polls close as to not influence the voters still to vote.

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majii  Oct 26, 2016 • 4:18:34pm

I just finished watching the video. I am in tears, and my heart hurts. No child should have to live in a state of constant anxiety about the possibility that politicians, if given the chance, would deport them and their parents from the only nation they’ve ever lived in and known. This is some serious sh*t. And, it hurts me even though it doesn’t affect me. I am also ashamed and embarrassed knowing that many who call themselves Christians support politicians who would definitely deport millions of persons solely because they have been sold a load of BS about them and would deny refuge to those fleeing wars and persecution simply because again, they’ve been sold a load of BS about them. This is not what American Exceptionalism, which they love to scream, is about. These individuals don’t give a sh*t about those American values and principles they claim to hold “dear.” They took a major dump on the Constitution long ago. They’ve replaced the Constitution and American values, principles, real Americans Exceptionalism with hate, racism, Islamophobia, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny, sexism, and fearmongering. If they think this sh*t will “Make America Great Again,” they’re lying to themselves and have been conned by one of the, if not the, biggest liars and scam artists on the planet.

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A Cranky One  Oct 26, 2016 • 4:54:57pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

Lots of Trump supporting men don’t know their wives are voting for Hillary.

But there are some who certainly do know.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 26, 2016 • 5:21:51pm

re: #288 Anymouse

They actually played in the afternoon? Now that’s impressive! Last time there was an afternoon game was back in the 1969 series between the Mets and the Orioles.


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