Sean Hannity Tweets Link to White Supremacist Troll Chuck C. Johnson, Then Deletes It

Now you see Hannity’s link to a racist site, now you don’t
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So yesterday, this happened. Fox News ranter Sean Hannity has been getting more open lately about his attraction to the alt-right, and on his radio show he crossed a big red line by offering to pay for President Obama to go to Kenya.

Telling the first black president of the US to go back to Africa didn’t exactly go over well with a lot of people, because let’s face it, it’s racist as hell. And Hannity was promptly faced with a whole lot of people outraged by his statement.

So Sean decided he would defend himself by tweeting a link to the website of white supremacist troll Chuck C. Johnson (who is NOT ME). If it seems a bit weird to defend yourself against charges of racism by citing a blatantly racist website, well, yeah. It is.

The link went to Johnson’s post about his absurd scam wherein he bilked gullible right wingers into sending him money for a video documentary of Barack Obama’s 1990 trip to Kenya. Apparently this was supposed to make it OK for Hannity to say he’d send Obama to Kenya, because Obama once went there of his own volition.

I know; it’s a senseless and creepy rationalization, but that’s pretty standard right wing “thinking.”

However, someone must have had a word with Sean about Chuck’s history of support for racism and white supremacism, or maybe it was someone who just doesn’t like Chuck for personal reasons because there are plenty of conservatives who also despise our old pal Chuck.

Whatever the reason, Sean Hannity then went back to that tweet and deleted it. What you see above is a screenshot I took at the time, because I’ve learned that people like Hannity often do this when they realize they’ve screwed up.

Meanwhile, in other Chuck C. Johnson news, you may recall that Chuck and his crony in hatred Pax Dickinson had purportedly raised $5000 from gullible right wingers in order to post a crudely drawn billboard featuring racist memes, encouraging people to shoot undocumented immigrants.

But their plan has run into a snag; they can’t find a billboard company that will let them post this ugly message. So, according to the terms of service of their Wesearchr scam, this means the gullible fools who gave them money are out of luck — because they explicitly state that donations for their so-called “bounties” will never be refunded. Too bad, Wesearchr fans!

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224 comments

1
I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:35:25pm

Sean and Chuck, a match made in hell.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:37:56pm

Chucky is also a pal of the neo-Nazis behind “Fash the Nation”.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:38:22pm

Hannity was on a bender last night. This one is deleted now too.

Google cached version here.

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Jenner7  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:38:50pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:39:03pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

My response at the time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:39:20pm

re: #4 Jenner7

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Just imagine if Clinton said this….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:40:28pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Hannity was on a bender last night. This one is deleted now too.

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Google cached version here.

I wish Sean would leave. But otoh, I’d feel bad for the country that would have to take him. They don’t deserve him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:41:16pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:42:00pm
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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:42:22pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

The ICP and Juggalo Nation are going to demand an apology for being associated with that jackass.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:42:50pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Donald, just because not a single living president supports you doesn’t mean you get to whine because an elected president supports Hillary.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:43:58pm
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MsJ  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:44:44pm

Time to drive. See ya all in several hours.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:44:52pm

So I have compared how various translators handle my construct.

freetranslation.com
Best list not achieving waste of time feeling disappointment

translation.babylon-software.com
Best list not achieving waste of time feeling disappointment

Google, first try:
Showtimes & Tickets

Google, second try:
Leaderboard non-achievement of time feeling disappointment

Google sucks /

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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:45:10pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Drunk tweets are the worst.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:45:24pm

Did my civic duty this afternoon. This is the first year for in-person absentee voting in MN and it went very smoothly.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:46:24pm

re: #16 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Did my civic duty this afternoon. This is the first year for in-person absentee voting in MN and it went very smoothly.

“in-person, absentee voting”. How is that different from regular in person voting?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:46:36pm

re: #15 Sir John Barron

Drunk tweets are the worst.

Especially from Lumpy.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:47:32pm

re: #17 Sir John Barron

“in-person, absentee voting”. How is that different from regular in person voting?

You can send your footman with your signet to mark your ballot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:47:39pm

re: #17 Sir John Barron

“in-person, absentee voting”. How is that different from regular in person voting?

It’s the same way in Kentucky.
You can absentee vote in person at the county clerk’s office, but there is a limited list of accepted reasons that are allowed.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:50:09pm

re: #17 Sir John Barron

“in-person, absentee voting”. How is that different from regular in person voting?

You used to need an excuse (of which there were limited valid excuses) to cast an absentee ballot, but they opened that up to all this year, essentially giving us “early voting” without explicitly calling it that.

I filled out an absentee ballot at the polling place, and instead of having to mail it in, I gave it to the clerk and it gets stored with all of the rest of the absentee ballots (mailed or otherwise) until election day.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:50:47pm

An interesting comment at that wesearcher page:

Sam Hyde • 21 days ago
I’m the anon who made that pic in MS Paint and posted it in a political wallpaper thread on /wg/. I don’t care if you believe me. I have two things to say:

>I’m honored that my work will serve the Trumpenkrieg.
>You should probably take moonman out of it

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:51:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:51:32pm
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Nyet  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:52:03pm

*eyeroll*
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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:52:05pm

re: #21 A wild WITHAK appeared!

You used to need an excuse (of which there were limited valid excuses) to cast an absentee ballot, but they opened that up to all this year, essentially giving us “early voting” without explicitly calling it that.

I filled out an absentee ballot at the polling place, and instead of having to mail it in, I gave it to the clerk and it gets stored with all of the rest of the absentee ballots (mailed or otherwise) until election day.

And depending on the early voting rules in the state, I imagine it would allow you more flexibility on when and how to vote.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:52:36pm

re: #25 Nyet

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*eyeroll*

Oh, he’s still alive, HAHA Goodman?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:52:38pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:53:34pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

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So they have Twitter down in Hell, or Limbo, for Bon Scott? Right on.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:54:12pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

“We should just cancel the election and just give it to Trump.” -Trump

And that cow-palace full of buffoons cheered for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:54:33pm

In Kentucky, we have to sign an affidavit detailing the reason we can’t vote on Election Day.
MrBWS has the same excuse every year since he works out-of-state all week.
Last November I got to vote early with MrBWS because my right arm was broken and my truck has a manual transmission, so there was no way I could drive myself to the polling place on Election Day.
To lie on that affidavit is akin to voter fraud in Kentucky. I know that my county clerk would give me a pass if I asked, but I wouldn’t do that to her.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:54:45pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

And that cow-palace full of buffoons cheered for it.

because the Trumpkins love Freedom and Democracy and the Constitution.

/

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:55:17pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:56:02pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:56:03pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

In Kentucky, we have to sign an affidavit detailing the reason we can’t vote on Election Day.
MrBWS has the same excuse every year since he works out-of-state all week.
Last November I got to vote early with MrBWS because my right arm was broken and my truck has a manual transmission, so there was no way I could drive myself to the polling place on Election Day.
To lie on that affidavit is akin to voter fraud in Kentucky. I know that my county clerk would give me a pass if I asked, but I wouldn’t do that to her.

In Alabama, planning to be out of state is adequate—hee, hee, hee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:56:08pm

re: #22 Nyet

An interesting comment at that wesearcher page:

The infamous “Sam Hyde” always shows up in the usual swampy places.
:)

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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:56:17pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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But they hate, hate, voter fraud, which is rampant, and which even one instance of such cancels out all of their Constitutional votes.

///

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:58:16pm

re: #25 Nyet

Goodman is a few clowns short of a circus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 2:58:29pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

In Alabama, planning to be out of state is adequate—hee, hee, hee.

yep, same here.
And damnit…plans changed…again.

:D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:00:16pm

L. O. L. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:00:25pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep, same here.
And damnit…plans changed…again.

:D

Nope, I plan to be in FL, if there is much carpetbagging to be done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:00:54pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

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L. O. L. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He said that with a straight face to an arena full of white people.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:01:53pm

Speaking of early voting, Los Angeles County, which is just over 4,000 square miles and has about 10 million people living in it, has a total of exactly one (1) early voting location. Apparently, they are also doing five additional pop up early voting locations this weekend and next weekend, but for a county that size, you’d think they’d have more early voting options.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:02:08pm

donald’s speech lasted only 36 minutes.
He’s running out of stamina fast.

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:02:59pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

donald’s speech lasted only 36 minutes.
He’s running out of stamina fast.

Not enough Peruvian Marching Powder. SAD!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:03:25pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:03:31pm

re: #43 KGxvi

Speaking of early voting, Los Angeles County, which is just over 4,000 square miles and has about 10 million people living in it, has a total of exactly one (1) early voting location. Apparently, they are also doing five additional pop up early voting locations this weekend and next weekend, but for a county that size, you’d think they’d have more early voting options.

If it was in the South, I’d assume the GOP did that on purpose to prevent early voting by Democrats.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:05:15pm

re: #43 KGxvi

New York doesn’t have any at all. No clue why.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:05:53pm

donald is supposed to be in Geneva, Ohio, at 7 pm.
That’s two and half driving hours away, probably not any quicker by plane given travel time between venues and airports.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:07:34pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:08:03pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump speaking about how the African-American vote is taken for granted every four years.

L. O. L. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:08:06pm

re: #47 Big Beautiful Door

If it was in the South, I’d assume the GOP did that on purpose to prevent early voting by Democrats.

re: #48 The Mountain That Blogs

New York doesn’t have any at all. No clue why.

My guess is that we have pretty lax absentee voting rules, so people that want to vote early just do it that way. But it is strange that a county the size of Connecticut with the population of North Carolina only has one early voting location. Could have something to do with early voting locations having to be at county seat/offices, maybe.

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nickzi  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:11:17pm

A fascinating look at how Trump is trying to run things - and how he’s hollowed out the RNC as the controlling factor in the GOP:

bloomberg.com

Beginning last November, then ramping up in earnest when Trump became the Republican nominee, Kushner quietly built a sprawling digital fundraising database and social media campaign that’s become the locus of his father-in-law’s presidential bid. Trump’s top advisers won’t concede the possibility of defeat, but they’re candid about the value of what they’ve built even after the returns come in—and about Trump’s desire for influence regardless of outcome. “Trump is a builder,” says Bannon, in a rare interview. “And what he’s built is the underlying apparatus for a political movement that’s going to propel us to victory on Nov. 8 and dominate Republican politics after that.”
If Trump wants to strengthen his hold on his base, then his apocalyptic rhetoric on the stump begins to make more sense. Lately he’s sounded less like a candidate seeking to persuade moderates and swing voters and more like the far-right populist leaders who’ve risen throughout Europe. Most Republican Party officials ardently hope he’ll go away quietly if he loses. But given all that his campaign—and Kushner’s group especially—has been doing behind the scenes, it looks likelier that Trump and his lieutenants will stick around. They may emerge as a new media enterprise, an outsider political movement, or perhaps some combination of the two: an American UK Independence Party (UKIP) that will wage war on the Republican Party—or, rather, intensify the war that Trump and Bannon have already begun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:12:00pm
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Nyet  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:12:34pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

Considering his supporters, did he mean Jewish ghettos?////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:14:31pm

re: #55 Nyet

Considering his supporters, did he mean Jewish ghettos?////

All of the ghettoes!
They’ll be the BEST ghettoes when he’s finished with them!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:15:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:15:14pm

Coming to an inner city near you: TRUMP GHETTO!
It will be the best!

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:15:20pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or they will all be turned into golf courses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:15:58pm

re: #59 Jebediah, RBG

Or they will all be turned into golf courses.

oooh…I do not want to think about the hazards on those courses…

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:16:24pm

re: #47 Big Beautiful Door

If it was in the South, I’d assume the GOP did that on purpose to prevent early voting by Democrats.

I worked for a while trying to ride herd on LA County. My impression was that it was a creaking, archaic government that nobody paid attention to … that handled a budget larger than all but 11 states. Most of my gig was basically doing their jobs for them, trying to clean up their messes, holding their hands as they had hissy fits, etc. etc.

And that was the legal department. Sheesh.

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calochortus  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:17:28pm

I’m just sort of jumping in here so this may already have been posted, but a woman is alleging that Clarence Thomas groped her in the late ’90s.
Evidently she told housemates about it at the time, and didn’t seek out the media (she had put something on her Facebook page and someone reported that to a reporter.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:17:45pm
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bratwurst  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:17:54pm

Can you imagine the shit storm if Hillary made a “joke” about cancelling the election? Or if Obama did?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:18:53pm

re: #64 bratwurst

Can you imagine the shit storm if Hillary made a “joke” about cancelling the election? Or Obama?

No kidding.

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:19:09pm

re: #64 bratwurst

Can you imagine the shit storm if Hillary made a “joke” about cancelling the election? Or Obama?

If they do, buy stock in CCI, Remington, Speer, Nosler & all other ammunition stores, because the freaked-out fraidycat rednecks will immediately buy every goddam bullet in the U.S., to prep for the coming “Great Liquidation.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:20:18pm

O_o

Today on “The Jim Bakker Show,” Religious Right activist Lance Wallnau described how Donald Trump reached his decision to run for president.

Wallnau hailed Trump as “another Cyrus,” a reference to the Persian king who liberated the Jews from captivity in Babylon, and “a committed man and husband, a dedicated father,” and said he personally asked Trump what motivated him to run:

He said, “Well, I wanted to be president.” He said, “I really did, but my wife told me I was too brash and too bright, that America wouldn’t put up with me.” He said, “You know what, I listened to her.” And then she was watching the burning down of Baltimore, she was watching the riots on television and she got a word—sometimes God speaks to you and you don’t have to be a Christian for God to talk to you; God spoke to Pilate’s wife and said, “Be careful what you do with this man”—and she said, “Donald, if you run now, you’ll become president.”

And he was eating dinner and he said, “What? Wait a second.” He put the thing on mute. He said, “What did you just say?” She said, “Now.” Because he was debating on signing on for “The Apprentice” for another season. And she said, “If you run now, you will be president.” He said, “Why? What’s changed? You said I’m too brash.” She said, “No, no, no. They’ve changed. America’s changed. They’re ready for you now. They’ll push past the packaging. They’ll get your heart. They’ll hear you.” That was the moment he said to call Michael Cohen. He said, “Cancel ‘The Apprentice,’ I’m filing for presidency.” And he decided to run. It was his wife—his wife that pushed him over the edge.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:21:50pm

Somebody will die.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:23:50pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Uh huh sure Lance.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:24:53pm

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

Somebody will die.

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Karma is a butch eh Vladdy.

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:25:54pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Uh huh sure Lance.

I’ve noticed that God for each wingnut always tells that wingnut to do what the wingnut wants to do. How convenient.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:26:09pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

New language from Trump on the problem of the inner cities today in Toledo:

I’m sorry, I refuse to accept that the highlighted portion of that word cloud constitutes language. Unless by “new language” he actually means a previously unrecorded language.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:27:52pm

re: #71 EPR-radar

I’ve noticed that God for each wingnut always tells that wingnut to do what the wingnut wants to do. How convenient.

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:28:55pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Uh huh sure Lance.

I particularly liked this part:

“…she was watching the riots on television and she got a word—sometimes God speaks to you and you don’t have to be a Christian for God to talk to you…”

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gocart mozart  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:30:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:31:21pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

I particularly liked this part:

Yeah. Just nutty shit.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:31:37pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why does Trump repeat himself so often when he talks? Strange.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:31:43pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

And then she was watching the burning down of Baltimore

Or maybe she was watching reruns of The Wire?

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plansbandc  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:31:59pm

re: #43 KGxvi

Wow. Albuquerque has locations all over the city. WTF?

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retired cynic  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:32:30pm

Listening to Trump now and listening to him from some years ago, it sounds like his brain has really gone into the dumpster. He has really slipped in his language and logic. Even for him.

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TedStriker  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:34:03pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

My response at the time.

“When only the most fucked-up shit will do…ask for it by name!”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:34:38pm

re: #80 retired cynic

But the media is right back on the Clinton Bashing Bandwagon, so this will be needlessly close and stressful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:35:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:35:46pm

re: #80 retired cynic

Listening to Trump now and listening to him from some years ago, it sounds like his brain has really gone into the dumpster. He has really slipped in his language and logic. Even for him.

He was always an ass but in the past coherent at least.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:36:19pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

“And he decided to run. It was his wife—his wife that pushed him over the edge.”

And she certainly has pushed Trump over the edge — way over the edge. This unsuccessful run for Presidency has already damaged his brand and reputation. His name is mud now that his bigotry has been fully revealed during his campaign.

Wrong move, Melania. Wrong move.

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stpaulbear  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:36:22pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

Why does Trump repeat himself so often when he talks? Strange.

Because he can’t stand to listen to himself not talking?

To drown out the voices in his head?

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TedStriker  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:37:41pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

I wish Sean would leave. But otoh, I’d feel bad for the country that would have to take him. They don’t deserve him.

Fuck, we can’t even get rid of Limbaugh and he explicitly said that he was moving to Costa Rica if Obama won…eight years ago.

No, our best hope is for us to have Hannity, Limbaugh, Nugent, and all of the other RWNJ winners in one spot and for the SMoD to take them all out in one fell swoop.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:37:51pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But but Trump’s 200 generals, admirals, and cmoh winners who he has conversations with!//

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TedStriker  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:39:15pm

re: #59 Jebediah, RBG

Or they will all be turned into golf courses.

With the former residents serving as “the help”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:39:30pm

re: #87 TedStriker

Fuck, we can’t even get rid of Limbaugh and he explicitly said that he was moving to Costa Rica if Obama won…eight years ago.

No, our best hope is for us to have Hannity, Limbaugh, Nugent, and all of the other RWNJ winners in one spot and for the SMoD to take them all out in one fell swoop.

Rush’s “promise” was over ACA I believe. I just wish these drama queens would just shut up and go away. There’s not a damn positive thing they contribute to political dialogue.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:41:05pm

I look forward to reading the Russian emails of Surkov’s staff on wikileaks. Any day now.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:41:52pm

Maajid Nawaz is upset that he and Ayaan Hirsi Ali are on the SPLC list of Anti-Muslim Bigots.

Personally, he seems like the British version of Zudhi Jasser. He decided to align himself with Anti-Muslim bigots like Sam Harris (who has stated that, in some circumstances, he is ok with torture).

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a liar of Trump-level calibre who has used her false defector story in order to make money from Islam-haters. I can’t really disagree with this list from the SPLC.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:42:00pm

re: #79 plansbandc

Wow. Albuquerque has locations all over the city. WTF?

Apparently having only one early voting location per county is not uncommon in California. According to the Secretary of State’s website, most counties only have one location. I’m actually surprised that Orange, Riverside, and San Bernardino counties have multiple locations.

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majii  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:43:46pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Donald Trump speaking about how the African-American vote is taken for granted every four years.”

This is a very strange comment for him to make since he really doesn’t know many blacks. I’ve never felt my vote was ever “taken for granted” by Democratic politicians. I vote for them and not for Republican politicians because their vision of the country is more aligned with mine. I don’t vote for Republican politicians because I refuse to be one of their useful idiots who votes against my own interests. On the one hand, they disparage PoC, and on the other, they say, “Vote for me.” Uh, uh, not gonna happen in my case. You don’t get to curse me out and say all kinds of ugly things about me and earn my vote. If you think you will, you’re underestimating my ability to discern what those yuuuge dog whistles you love to use against me mean. I’m not that stupid, and neither are many other PoC.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:47:12pm

re: #80 retired cynic

Listening to Trump now and listening to him from some years ago, it sounds like his brain has really gone into the dumpster. He has really slipped in his language and logic. Even for him.

Amphetamines will do that.

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KingKenrod  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:48:33pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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That is the biggest pile of horseshit I’ve ever seen.

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calochortus  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:49:49pm

re: #94 majii

I saw a piece on The PBS NewsHour a few weeks ago about the Hispanic population near the border with Mexico. A Republican woman was going on about going door to door in a neighborhood and how impressed everyone was that the GOP was reaching out to them because no Republican ever had before. Then she talked about how the Dems take the Hispanic voters for granted-only there for the elections and fiestas and holidays.

Really? The locals have never seen a Republican come around before, ever, and she is dissing the Dems because they aren’t there 24/7? Way to polish that turd.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:54:40pm

re: #97 calochortus

“Really? The locals have never seen a Republican come around before, ever, and she is dissing the Dems because they aren’t there 24/7? Way to polish that turd.”

Cognitive dissonance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:56:09pm

Have tissues handy for this one:

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Tigger2  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:57:37pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:57:52pm

re: #94 majii

Amen. Those are my exact sentiments. Republicans should never expect my vote. They can keep mining that White Supremacy/alt right vein for gold.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 3:59:39pm

re: #97 calochortus

I saw a piece on The PBS NewsHour a few weeks ago about the Hispanic population near the border with Mexico. A Republican woman was going on about going door to door in a neighborhood and how impressed everyone was that the GOP was reaching out to them because no Republican ever had before. Then she talked about how the Dems take the Hispanic voters for granted-only there for the elections and fiestas and holidays.

Really? The locals have never seen a Republican come around before, ever, and she is dissing the Dems because they aren’t there 24/7? Way to polish that turd.

I’ve seen Republican candidates not just voters freak out about Spanish being spoken. Meanwhile, I’ve seen the Democrats not just their candidates but rank and file Democrats really listen to Hispanic voters. The GOP has been shitting on HIspanic voters with the exception of GWB and he was a minority in his own party even before the GOP went completely bonkers after Obama got elected.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:01:13pm

That interview with Trump and Melania that was just on the evening news. Did anyone else catch Melania when she said “Bannon, my son…. (then looked at Donny and said) our son…”

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:01:21pm

re: #94 majii

“Donald Trump speaking about how the African-American vote is taken for granted every four years.”

This is a very strange comment for him to make since he really doesn’t know many blacks. I’ve never felt my vote was ever “taken for granted” by Democratic politicians. I vote for them and not for Republican politicians because their vision of the country is more aligned with mine. I don’t vote for Republican politicians because I refuse to be one of their useful idiots who votes against my own interests. On the one hand, they disparage PoC, and on the other, they say, “Vote for me.” Uh, uh, not gonna happen in my case. You don’t get to curse me out and say all kinds of ugly things about me and earn my vote. If you think you will, you’re underestimating my ability to discern what those yuuuge dog whistles you love to use against me mean. I’m not that stupid, and neither are many other PoC.

Republicans are so used to getting easy votes from resentful bigots that they have completely forgotten how to appeal for votes from non-bigots.

Via a miraculous feat of projection, they think

Democrats : blacks (or any other minority group) :: Republicans : resentful bigots

is a valid analogy.

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stpaulbear  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:01:40pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

Why does Trump repeat himself so often when he talks? Strange.

Trump: I don’t repeat myself! I don’t repeat myself!

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TedStriker  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:01:47pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Rush’s “promise” was over ACA I believe. I just wish these drama queens would just shut up and go away. There’s not a damn positive thing they contribute to political dialogue.

Damn, that’s right.

Still, what is he on now, six years or more since then?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:01:49pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:02:20pm

re: #96 KingKenrod

That is the biggest pile of horseshit I’ve ever seen.

Give the Trump campaign another day, and this will no longer be true.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:02:52pm

While there are a lot of junk or weird polls coming out, at the same time, I am getting worried about the margin begin to narrow again.

I have Generalized Anxiety Disorder as a result of stuff in the past, so worrying is an unconscious reflex.

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Anymouse  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:02:58pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Have tissues handy for this one:

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That is one powerful story.

“Did Hillary make it?” she asked once more, her words trailing, her voice almost inaudible. Looking at the fading light in her eyes, as her boney hand stretched out from her hospice bed, I considered how to respond. Do I tell her the truth? Hillary’s poll numbers are looking positive, but the election is not in the bag.

“Yes, Mama,” I told her. “Hillary made it.”

It was what Marie Urbanski Whittaker had been waiting for her entire life. Within minutes, she was gone.

Rest in Peace, Ms. Whittaker.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:03:02pm

Republicans think they’re not insulting people by saying they vote Democratic because they want free stuff but they are and they do it a lot. I don’t vote Democratic because I want free stuff. I vote Democratic because that party represents my beliefs and it does a much better job running the country than the Republican one does. It also doesn’t rely on pandering to resentments like the GOP does. The GOP goes after the votes of people who are still upset that the South lost the war in 1865. I have no desire to support a party like that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:03:36pm

re: #106 TedStriker

Damn, that’s right.

Still, what is he on now, six years or more since then?

Yeah close to it. For the Costa Ricans sake, I am glad he didn’t go there but I wish he would leave the rest of us alone here in the U.S.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:05:25pm

re: #110 Anymouse

That is one powerful story.

Rest in Pease, Ms. Whittaker.

Incredible lady. Thoughts to her family. She sounds like she was an amazing woman in so many ways.

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:06:11pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

Yeah close to it. For the Costa Ricans sake, I am glad he didn’t go there but I wish he would leave the rest of us alone here in the U.S.

I would very much like to see Rush Limbaugh made unable to talk via an apparent act of God. This man has been a cancer on society for his entire career.

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calochortus  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:06:25pm

re: #103 GlutenFreeJesus

That interview with Trump and Melania that was just on the evening news. Did anyone else catch Melania when she said “Bannon, my son…. (then looked at Donny and said) our son…”

Eh, I sometimes talk about “my children” even though Mr. C. was directly involved in both their creation and upbringing.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:06:55pm

re: #97 calochortus

I saw a piece on The PBS NewsHour a few weeks ago about the Hispanic population near the border with Mexico. A Republican woman was going on about going door to door in a neighborhood and how impressed everyone was that the GOP was reaching out to them because no Republican ever had before. Then she talked about how the Dems take the Hispanic voters for granted-only there for the elections and fiestas and holidays.

Really? The locals have never seen a Republican come around before, ever, and she is dissing the Dems because they aren’t there 24/7? Way to polish that turd.

I would be more impressed with a party that is there for community celebrations and elections, rather than one which only knocks on the door asking for a vote. Maybe it is just me.

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Jenner7  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:07:29pm

O
H
I
O…..please don’t be stupid and give Trump your state.

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:08:06pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Rush’s “promise” was over ACA I believe. I just wish these drama queens would just shut up and go away. There’s not a damn positive thing they contribute to political dialogue.

The real problem is that what RWNJs like Limbaugh ‘contribute’ to political dialogue is malignantly stupid, willfully evil and immensely destructive.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:08:11pm

re: #114 EPR-radar

I would very much like to see Rush Limbaugh made unable to talk via an apparent act of God. This man has been a cancer on society for his entire career.

I am going to hate it when he dies because the media is going to downplay how much he really contributed to poisoning a lot of our society when it came to political discussion. I won’t pretend it was roses and sunshine before Rush but the guy has been so terrible to so many people and the GOP was happy to make him an influential part of their bodypolitic.

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:09:10pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

I am going to hate it when he dies because the media is going to downplay how much he really contributed to poisoning a lot of our society when it came to political discussion. I won’t pretend it was roses and sunshine before Rush but the guy has been so terrible to so many people and the GOP was happy to make him an influential part of their bodypolitic.

I don’t care what the media does on that happy day.

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calochortus  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:09:13pm

re: #116 BlueSpotinAL

I would be more impressed with a party that is there for community celebrations and elections, rather than one which only knocks on the door asking for a vote. Maybe it is just me.

Just you, I’m sure ;)
I don’t expect the party of my choice (a.k.a. the Dems) to be there for every waking moment anyway. I would like them to be reachable if I need something, which fortunately I haven’t. But, yeah, someone showing up for a parade or holiday or something would indicate availability and interest to me.

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stpaulbear  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:09:38pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

Verdict reached on all but 1 charge in refuge occupation trial

That’s an interesting sign. I was guessing there was going to be one holdout that believed all the sovereign citizen stuff and refused to convict. Maybe we’ll still find out that everyone felt that way and they’ll be found innocent…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:10:23pm

re: #120 EPR-radar

I don’t care what the media does on that happy day.

I still like what Hitchens said when Falwell died. He got a lot of shit but you know what, it’s not like Falwell was so nice to people who weren’t Evangelical Christians so I didn’t care that Hitchens said it was a pity there was no hell for Falwell to go to.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:11:08pm

re: #117 Jenner7

Looking here, it looks like most of the polls we are getting from Ohio in the last week are low quality Junk Polls, or online polls.

Most of what I see on 538 from Ohio right now is SurveyMonkey, Auto Alliance / ESA / Pulse Opinion Research, and Google Consumer Surveys.

In short, who the hell knows what is going on in Ohio right now.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:11:18pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:11:44pm

re: #122 stpaulbear

If they are found to be innocent, we have a problem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:12:18pm

re: #122 stpaulbear

That’s an interesting sign. I was guessing there was going to be one holdout that believed all the sovereign citizen stuff and refused to convict. Maybe we’ll still find out that everyone felt that way and they’ll be found innocent…

No, it’s just one charge out of a whole very lengthy laundry list of charges.
The judge sounded like she’s going to let them go ahead on the rest of the charges.

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meteor  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:13:15pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

He’s high.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:14:04pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:14:10pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I still like what Hitchens said when Falwell died. He got a lot of shit but you know what, it’s not like Falwell was so nice to people who weren’t Evangelical Christians so I didn’t care that Hitchens said it was a pity there was no hell for Falwell to go to.

There is also this:

“If you gave Falwell an enema he could be buried in a matchbox” — Hitchens

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:14:29pm
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Bubblehead II  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:14:39pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:15:28pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

This country is in trouble. How the fuck does this happen?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:15:50pm

So, Sovereign Citizens now have a green light to do whatever the hell they want to.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:16:03pm
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TedStriker  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:16:09pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I still like what Hitchens said when Falwell died. He got a lot of shit but you know what, it’s not like Falwell was so nice to people who weren’t Evangelical Christians so I didn’t care that Hitchens said it was a pity there was no hell for Falwell to go to.

Very few people, as R. Dean Taylor sang, ”need(ed) dying”, but Limbaugh would be one that I would relish reading his obituary.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:16:11pm

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

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Are you fucking serious…not guilty across the board?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:16:55pm

How the hell.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:17:18pm

re: #125 FormerDirtDart

Well, it’s still not over for the Bundy’s, tho. Jury Nullification wins this one.

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gocart mozart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:17:42pm

In Connecticut we have

The “Chip Smith” Charge

“Everything old is new again.” We’ve all heard this phrase before, and this is certainly the case with the Chip Smith charge. The charge derives from State v. Smith, 49 Conn. 376 (1881). James “Chip” Smith was a 21-year-old who was drinking, firing off his gun and causing a general disturbance of the peace one afternoon in December of 1880. His behavior forced his father out into the street and to the home of Daniel J. Hayes, the chief of police for the borough of Ansonia. The elder Mr. Smith begged Mr. Hayes to come and arrest his son. Mr. Hayes went in search of Chip, found him in a downtown street and tried to arrest him. Scales of Justice A struggle ensued, and Chip shot Hayes in the abdomen. Hayes later died of his injuries. James “Chip” Smith was tried for and convicted of Hayes’ murder. In an opinion reviewing Smith’s conviction, the Connecticut Supreme Court set forth language concerning the duty of jurors when deliberating. This language became known as the Chip Smith charge, and trial courts repeatedly gave the charge to jurors when they reported that they were deadlocked.

jud.ct.gov
also SCOTUS Allen v. U.S. (1896) en.wikipedia.org

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:17:44pm

re: #137 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Are you fucking serious…not guilty across the board?

What a goddamn clusterfuck. My guess is one or more sovcit nutballs on the jury.

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calochortus  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:17:58pm

So next time I want to vacation somewhere I can just take over a federal facility????

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:18:00pm

re: #137 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Apparently their peers are wild west folk who don’t like gubmint’ intrusion.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:18:03pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:18:11pm

re: #139 Eric The Fruit Bat

I think the left in the country needs to become harsher.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:18:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:18:41pm
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freetoken  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:19:28pm

re: #145 Ziggy_TARDIS

I think the left in the country needs to become harsher.

nonsense… justice is slow, sometimes very slow, often tardy, but it comes around.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:20:04pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Un.fucking.believable!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:20:21pm

re: #148 freetoken

People will end up dead. That is unacceptable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:20:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:20:58pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:21:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:22:20pm

Mumford is Ammon Bundy’s defense lawyer.

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:22:27pm

re: #148 freetoken

nonsense… justice is slow, sometimes very slow, often tardy, but it comes around.

The only reasonable hope for justice in this case is for a mistrial, perhaps based on finding that juror(s) were sovereign citizen freaks.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:22:31pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:22:35pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, Sovereign Citizens now have a green light to do whatever the hell they want to.

White Sovereign Citizens. I wouldn’t try that as a Black woman.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:22:43pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

donald is supposed to be in Geneva, Ohio, at 7 pm.
That’s two and half driving hours away, probably not any quicker by plane given travel time between venues and airports.

Geneva???

Dude goes to some out of the way places. But he sure has worked that northeast part of Ohio this campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:22:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:23:40pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:23:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:24:09pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:24:24pm

re: #161 FormerDirtDart

Second place is the first loser.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:24:57pm

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

White Sovereign Citizens. I wouldn’t try that as a Black woman.

If anyone needed proof of racial privilege in this country, look at how “sovereign citizens” are treated versus African-Americans protesting injustice.

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whitebeach  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:25:16pm

Imagine if these defendants had done the same thing but were black, Latino, Native American, or god forbid Muslim.

Of course in that case the authorities probably would have gone all SWAT from the get-go and few if any defendants would have ever made it to court to face a jury.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:25:57pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Or African Americans just living life in general. Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:26:20pm

re: #165 whitebeach

Imagine if these defendants had done the same thing but were black, Latino, Native American, or god forbid Muslim.

Of course in that case the authorities probably would have gone all SWAT from the get-go and few if any defendants would have ever made it to court to face a jury.

Yet my wingnut friend thinks the idea of racial privilege is liberal bs. Maybe if he got his information from someone not named Crowder of Shapiro, he’d see that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:26:34pm

re: #166 Patricia Kayden

Or African Americans just living life in general. Sigh.

Yeah no kidding.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:26:50pm

re: #155 EPR-radar

The only reasonable hope in this case is for a mistrial, perhaps based on finding that juror(s) were sovereign citizen freaks.

Wouldn’t happen, judges don’t overturn not guilty findings like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:27:03pm

meanwhile in Geneva OH:

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:28:38pm

re: #165 whitebeach

Imagine if these defendants had done the same thing but were black, Latino, Native American, or god forbid Muslim.

Of course in that case the authorities probably would have gone all SWAT from the get-go and few if any defendants would have ever made it to court to face a jury.

Another thought experiment to consider is this: What if the sovereign citizens had spouted communist ideology while perpetrating their illegal acts? Even their being white would not have saved them.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:28:48pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:29:13pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:29:17pm

Better 7 guilty white men go free than one innocent black man get out alive.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:29:38pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Geneva OH:

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Oh Stowe, Ohio. About as far away as Mexico as you can get and the closest you probably have to Mexico is probably a Taco Bell or a Chipolte. Not trying to shit on their town but point out that the people who freak out about Mexican immigrants the most are often people who aren’t impacted by it. Meanwhile those like us here in NOVA who have a large community of immigrants aren’t paranoid about it and don’t want Trump’s stupid wall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:29:42pm

re: #165 whitebeach

Imagine if these defendants had done the same thing but were black, Latino, Native American, or god forbid Muslim.

Of course in that case the authorities probably would have gone all SWAT from the get-go and few if any defendants would have ever made it to court to face a jury.

Look no further than what just happened today at Standing Rock.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:30:33pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mumford arrested or at least detained by about half a dozen Marshals.

I wonder what his sons have to say about that…
/

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:31:04pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:31:15pm

re: #165 whitebeach

Imagine if these defendants had done the same thing but were black, Latino, Native American, or god forbid Muslim.

Of course in that case the authorities probably would have gone all SWAT from the get-go and few if any defendants would have ever made it to court to face a jury.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:31:27pm

I wonder if sometimes defendants are so obviously guilty that the prosecution slacks off.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:31:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:31:41pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:32:32pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:32:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:33:40pm

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s such a dumbass. But then again what does one expect from the cumbucket who trashed Tim Kaine’s record as governor of New Jersey.

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:33:44pm

re: #169 Timothy Watson

Wouldn’t happen, judges don’t overturn not guilty findings like that.

Let’s hope the legal system can deal with upcoming cases of this type better. It would seem to be essential to change the venue for trial to some reasonably populated place in order to reduce the chance of sovereign citizen jurors nullifying all their crimes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:34:29pm

Really, this is insane.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:35:04pm

Verdicts often come down to the causes of action and the jury instructions that go along with those causes of action. Also, keep in mind that the jury likely didn’t get all the information that we had as outside viewers, or it was framed in a way that led them to the decision that they reached.

Don’t despair that our legal system is broken. Sometimes juries return weird verdicts, in spite of the evidence or because of how the evidence was presented. To paraphrase a wiser man, our legal system is the worst system ever devised, except for all the others.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:35:46pm

I really want to know the mindset of the jurors when they deliberated and made that call, because….holy fuck, what did the trial demonstrate that would un-damn them considering their own fucking statements and behavior? They literally didn’t hide what the hell they were doing and couched it in sovcit bullshit.

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plansbandc  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:35:52pm

re: #179 Kragar

There’s no question about it. Fuck

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:36:52pm

re: #190 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Rural America can go fuck themselves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:38:24pm

re: #192 Ziggy_TARDIS

STOP THAT!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:39:08pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

Retweeted by Malcom Nance!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:39:42pm

re: #192 Ziggy_TARDIS

Getting really tired of hearing that broad-brush blanket blaming shit from you.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:39:45pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

Can President Obama order ND police to stand down? I assume he could tell any Federal officers to stand down at the very least.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:39:51pm

re: #161 FormerDirtDart

Hopefully, this nice little outburst will cause him to be censured, if not outright barred from practicing in Oregon ever again.

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:40:00pm

re: #189 KGxvi

They can’t be tried on these charges again, of course. But given their sociopathic tendencies somewhere down the line they will try similar stunts, and eventually there will be a jury that will convict.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:40:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:41:08pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart

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That looks good. Probably well out of my price range I imagine.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:41:17pm

re: #145 Ziggy_TARDIS

I think the left in the country needs to become harsher.

Then it wouldn’t be the left anymore now would it?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:41:19pm

re: #196 Patricia Kayden

These aren’t Feds-they’re from states all over the map. There was a big protest in Hennepin County because Hennepin County deputies are partaking in this.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:42:38pm

re: #192 Ziggy_TARDIS

Rural America can go fuck themselves.

I’ve had it with you.

If you can’t moderate your language, stop fucking posting here.

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:42:58pm

re: #192 Ziggy_TARDIS

Rural America can go fuck themselves.

My parents lived in rural America for many years. Thank you ever so much for wanting them to ‘fuck off’.

You aren’t 3 years old anymore, SO STOP ACTING LIKE YOU ARE!!

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gocart mozart  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:45:50pm

.

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nickzi  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:49:13pm

re: #137 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Are you fucking serious…not guilty across the board?

Jesus H Motherfucking Christ on a pogo stick with dynamite strapped to his ass, that is absolutely goddamned ridiculous. What’s the point of having laws if those treasonous thugs can just walk free?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:51:04pm

re: #203 A wild WITHAK appeared!

re: #204 EPR-radar

Ok, yes, it was harsh, but this toxic form of Anti-Federal activity seems to be coming from Rural areas. So, how in the world do we deal with it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:53:27pm

re: #207 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, yes, it was harsh, but this toxic form of Anti-Federal activity seems to be coming from Rural areas. So, how in the world do we deal with it?

A lot of those defendants came from urban areas.
Quit saying it’s all rural.

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:53:43pm

re: #192 Ziggy_TARDIS

Fuck you.

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nickzi  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:53:53pm

re: #207 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, yes, it was harsh, but this toxic form of Anti-Federal activity seems to be coming from Rural areas. So, how in the world do we deal with it?

Um.. build more cities? Personally, I am still feeling let down by the Obama-Alinsky FEMA death camps.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:54:47pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

A lot of those defendants came from urban areas.
Quit saying it’s all rural.

The worst demagogue in this country right now is an quintessential New Yorker yet I still felt disgust and said something when Cruz attacked “New York values.” I’ve lived in suburbia and rural areas and I’ve worked and gone to school in cities. You get people who are good, bad, and all that in all areas.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:56:27pm

re: #207 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, yes, it was harsh, but this toxic form of Anti-Federal activity seems to be coming from Rural areas. So, how in the world do we deal with it?

I don’t think you’re getting it. I don’t care if it was “harsh.” It was incredibly stupid and insulting. You’re painting with your broad brush again, and you don’t appear to understand why and how that’s bad.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:57:07pm

re: #207 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, yes, it was harsh, but this toxic form of Anti-Federal activity seems to be coming from Rural areas. So, how in the world do we deal with it?

Dude just stop broadbrushing. You can say these guys are fucking assholes without attacking everyone who lives in a rural area. As people have told you before, just replace the word of the people you’re about to broadbrush with Muslim and imagine how you’d feel.

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EPR-radar  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:57:32pm

re: #207 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, yes, it was harsh, but this toxic form of Anti-Federal activity seems to be coming from Rural areas. So, how in the world do we deal with it?

I can’t believe I actually have to type this out, but whatever:

The first thing to do is to know the enemy, which in this case is sovereign citizen ideology.

Note that “sovereign citizen ideology” is not spelled r-u-r-a-l A-m-e-r-i-c-a.

This is a clue that these two things are not the same.

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Anymouse  Oct 27, 2016 • 4:59:25pm

re: #192 Ziggy_TARDIS

Rural America can go fuck themselves.

Thanks, but no I won’t.

By the way, wanna eat? We grow your food.

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nickzi  Oct 27, 2016 • 5:01:07pm

re: #215 Anymouse

Thanks, but no I won’t.

By the way, wanna eat? We grow your food.

My urban hydroponics mega-corporation begs to differ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 5:02:39pm

re: #215 Anymouse

Thanks, but no I won’t.

By the way, wanna eat? We grow your food.

I’m extremely rural.
I’m a farmer.
I quite literally grow food for other people.

ZiggyTardis can just go eat worms for all I care now.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 5:07:39pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want someone punished for this.

But you are right, I am painting with too broad a brush.

I need to step back and do something else, but I am too anxious about the election to do that now.

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Anymouse  Oct 27, 2016 • 5:08:14pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m extremely rural.
I’m a farmer.
I quite literally grow food for other people.

ZiggyTardis can just go eat worms for all I care now.

I’m not a farmer or rancher, but just about everyone else here is.

Our county has 3,000 people and half a million cattle. That doesn’t count all the crops grown here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2016 • 5:09:25pm

re: #218 Ziggy_TARDIS

I want someone punished for this.

But you are right, I am painting with too broad a brush.

I need to step back and do something else, but I am too anxious about the election to do that now.

Then stop insulting fellow lizards whenever you get pissed off about something.
You do that much too often and I, for one, am sick and tired of it.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 27, 2016 • 5:15:24pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

And you have a right to be.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 27, 2016 • 5:31:57pm

Night Lizards.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 27, 2016 • 6:12:02pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

An all white jury just legitimized the armed takeover of government property by militia nutjobs. #oregonstandoff

Glad to see that language. When I saw this disgusting news, the first thing I thought of was the all-white juries that repeatedly acquitted murderers and terrorists back in the civil rights protest era.

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mustardflower  Oct 28, 2016 • 9:57:28am

I googled what that moon with sunglasses in the upper left means, and oh dear….

I’ve never seen such a display of blatant incitement of racist violence. Just look up “moonman” on youtube. Lots of it is so vile, even youtube felt obligated to delete it.

Chuck has really gone off the deep end to reference this


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