An Amazing Performance on 18-String Double-Neck Acoustic Guitar: Ian Ethan Case, "Aftershocks"

An Amazing Performance on 18-String Double-Neck Acoustic Guitar: Ian Ethan Case, “Aftershocks”

Acoustic mastery in 6/8 time

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goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 7:46:31pm

The person responsible for providing @MarkKirk with basic, Wikipedia available facts about the opponent he’s had for months has been sacked.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Lidane Oct 27, 2016 • 7:48:00pm

Mark Kirk is a deplorable piece of shit:

Sen Kirk in debate w Duckworth: “I forgot your parents came all the way from Thalland to serve George Washington” pic.twitter.com/AEEGTj40Cq

— HawaiiDelilah (@HawaiiDelilah) October 28, 2016

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Tammy Duckworth has more testicular fortitude than that hack. I hope she wipes the floor with him.

Mike Lamb Oct 27, 2016 • 7:49:49pm

Still dumbfounded by the verdict. Apparently, the workers could have strolled in and done their jobs, despite armed men sitting at their desks and using their computers.

Charles Johnson Oct 27, 2016 • 7:50:59pm

@MarkKirk is a horrible human being, but he’s not unusual in the GOP. This is why their presidential candidate is Donald Trump.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 28, 2016

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Lidane Oct 27, 2016 • 7:52:32pm

re: #3 Mike Lamb

Still dumbfounded by the verdict. Apparently, the workers could have strolled in and done their jobs, despite armed men sitting at their desks and using their computers.

It’s the ultimate proof of white privilege. If the Oregon standoff had been done by Muslims, the building would’ve been droned within a day. If the occupiers had been black, it might have taken up to 48 hours before the bullets started flying. But these guys get off?

Yeah, right.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 7:53:22pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Yep and again speaks to what needs to be repeated. The GOP had problems long before Trump.

Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 7:53:34pm

Wow, that guitarist is superb.

“This jury has just given militias the green light to go after federal facilities with rifles.” @KieranSuckling https://t.co/m5m4dPEVoF

— Rev. Fred Small (@revfredsmall) October 28, 2016

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He’s not wrong https://t.co/GLmFCG9hOT

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 28, 2016

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HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 7:54:20pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

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In otherwords, some intern who was using this to boost his resume. Kirk meanwhile will either act like his words were misinterpreted or some bs apology.

No Depression Oct 27, 2016 • 7:55:35pm

If Mark Kirk wasn’t a modern-day Republican, I’d probably say he’s regretting his remark right about now. But that requires things like shame or self-awareness.

teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 7:55:36pm

@seanhannity Yet, if your master whistled, you would go running, tail wagging and all.

— Doug Spiker (@TaxSnafu) October 27, 2016

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God is my only master jackass. “The Truth Shall Set You Free” https://t.co/q2eNi6suYn

— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) October 27, 2016

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God: “I’m gonna flood the earth.”
Noah: “Uuugh seriously? You’re such a master jackass.” https://t.co/6oZzQOs5xn

— cracked.com (@cracked) October 28, 2016

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ObserverArt Oct 27, 2016 • 7:56:07pm

Since this a music thread and since I posted in the previous thread, just want to toss this repeat comment in:

Watching Jools Holland, and on right now is Joanne Shaw Taylor and her band with Jools sitting in on upright piano. They just did a knockout version of “Summertime.” Joanne is a slick guitar player. Never heard of her, but will look further.

And Chrissie and The Pretenders are on with a new album. Dan Auerbach (The Black Keys) produced it and is on the Jools Holland show as a member of The Pretenders. They still kick ass, and Auerbach adds to it all.

Good stuff. That is all.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 7:56:44pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

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Nah, Sean, I think it’s pretty obvious to all us watching you these past 18 months that if Trump told you to eat a turd, you would.

weave Oct 27, 2016 • 7:59:55pm

WHY WHY WHY is this turning around?

Is Trump doing some massive ad buys in these states? Even if so, why would that be effective? Do people have that short of a memory? What sort of scandal is it going to take before it will change people’s minds and make it stick?

Is this trend going to continue? :-(

(source: fivethirtyeight.com if not obvious)

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:00:00pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Also, I have no clue what God he is referring to, but it certainly is not the God of Abraham.

No Depression Oct 27, 2016 • 8:00:53pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

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Maybe Trump is Hannity’s god. I’m sure Trump could find a lot in common with the God of the Old Testament.

Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:01:20pm

Glad to hear @mike_pence, his staff, Secret Service, and the crew are all safe. -H

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 28, 2016

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Class. https://t.co/NxKdFjBvCZ

— PoliticalGroove (@PoliticalGroove) October 28, 2016

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:02:21pm

re: #13 weave

Take a look at the polls. You’ll notice that most of the most recent ones have issues, or come from disreputable organizations (Rasmussen, Remington, Pulse, and UPI) , or places with questionable methods (SurveyMonkey and Google).

We had a huge amount of noise introduced this week.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:02:37pm

re: #13 weave

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WHY WHY WHY is this turning around?

Is Trump doing some massive ad buys in these states? Even if so, why would that be effective? Do people have that short of a memory? What sort of scandal is it going to take before it will change people’s minds and make it stick?

Is this trend going to continue? :-(

(source: fivethirtyeight.com if not obvious)

I don’t know. Fortunately I just don’t see Trump winning. Good thing we have early votign though.

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:02:45pm

re: #13 weave

Though, yes, I am concerned.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:03:16pm

re: #17 Ziggy_TARDIS

Take a look at the polls. You’ll notice that most of the most recent ones have issues, or come from disreputable organizations (Rasmussen, Remington, Pulse, and UPI) , or places with questionable methods (SurveyMonkey and Google).

We had a huge amount of noise introduced this week.

I have seen a lot of the state polls on 538 this week are ones that Nate has given B’s and C’s.

Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:03:27pm

re: #13 weave

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WHY WHY WHY is this turning around?

Is Trump doing some massive ad buys in these states? Even if so, why would that be effective? Do people have that short of a memory? What sort of scandal is it going to take before it will change people’s minds and make it stick?

Is this trend going to continue? :-(

(source: fivethirtyeight.com if not obvious)

Also from FiveThirtyEight:

Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton

328.3

Donald Trump

208.5

Evan McMullin

1.1

Gary Johnson

0.1

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:03:46pm

I’m optimistic but I know we’re not out of this until Clinton gets 270.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:04:36pm

re: #21 Anymouse

Also from FiveThirtyEight:

Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton

328.3

Donald Trump

208.5

Evan McMullin

1.1

Gary Johnson

0.1

It still makes me ill that Trump is going to get more EVs than McGovern, Mondale, Landon, and yes even Goldwater.

No Depression Oct 27, 2016 • 8:06:38pm

re: #13 weave

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WHY WHY WHY is this turning around?

Is Trump doing some massive ad buys in these states? Even if so, why would that be effective? Do people have that short of a memory? What sort of scandal is it going to take before it will change people’s minds and make it stick?

Is this trend going to continue? :-(

(source: fivethirtyeight.com if not obvious)

I think some tightening of the polls should be expected. The Hillary hate on the right is very real. That alone is enough to drive marginal Trump voters to the polls, despite any disgust they might have with him.

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:08:53pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Yeah, that is what I have seen too.

Rasmussen is Rasmussen, and Pulse Opinion Strategies is a spin off of them.

Remington is was started by this guy, who was Campaign Manager for Ted Cruz.

And UPI is Moonie-owned, and CVoter has had issues in India with allegations of the data being adjusted to fit the needs of the one who commissioned the poll.

And Gravis is Breitbart’s go-to Poll Place.

Then you have internet polls like Google Customer Surveys, SurveyMonkey, and Reuters/Ipsos.

Reality Based Steve Oct 27, 2016 • 8:08:57pm

Well I’m off to bed.

Have a good evening, enjoy the snacks and last one out make sure the porch light is on.

Catch you later.

RBS

Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:09:16pm

And for the leftier-than-thou types:

A chart showing where Clinton, Johnson and Trump stand on the issues. Stein not included, you gonna cry about it? h/t @riotwomennn pic.twitter.com/nDzi7agsLR

— I, Hoebot. (@eclecticbrotha) October 1, 2016

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Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:09:22pm

re: #13 weave

Undecideds deciding?

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:10:30pm

re: #28 Nyet

That too. Nate outright said that was occurring, and moreso for Trump than for Hillary.

weave Oct 27, 2016 • 8:10:49pm

re: #28 Nyet

Undecideds deciding?

That would not be good if they are deciding on Trump :(

goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 8:12:07pm

Hey @MarkKirk, is “A person’s place of birth does not determine the totality of their heritage” on that list of facts? Asking for a friend.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:12:09pm

re: #25 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah, that is what I have seen too.

Rasmussen is Rasmussen, and Pulse Opinion Strategies is a spin off of them.

Remington is was started by this guy, who was Campaign Manager for Ted Cruz.

And UPI is Moonie-owned, and CVoter has had issues in India with allegations of the data being adjusted to fit the needs of the one who commissioned the poll.

And Gravis is Breitbart’s go-to Poll Place.

Then you have internet polls like Google Customer Surveys, SurveyMonkey, and Reuters/Ipsos.

I’m pretty optimistic since she’s doing better than Obama was against Romney and has a good ground game bit I’ll feel better when I know Trump is beat.

Tigger2 Oct 27, 2016 • 8:12:33pm

re: #28 Nyet

Undecideds deciding?

Hell most aren’t really undecideds they just like to think they are more important than anyone else, they like being talked about.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:13:25pm

re: #33 Tigger2

Hell most aren’t really undecideds they just like to think they are more important than anyone else.

I think a lot of independents are like that too honestly.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:14:13pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

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Oh I see you guys are gonna have going after him. Good. He deserves it.

goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 8:14:24pm

re: #13 weave

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WHY WHY WHY is this turning around?

Is Trump doing some massive ad buys in these states? Even if so, why would that be effective? Do people have that short of a memory? What sort of scandal is it going to take before it will change people’s minds and make it stick?

Is this trend going to continue? :-(

(source: fivethirtyeight.com if not obvious)

It’s not turning around. 538’s model is just insanely reactive and desperately wants to revert to a horserace whenever possible.

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:14:50pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Yeah.

I think what we have here is a huge data dump from the disreputables today, and this week.

Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:15:08pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

I think a lot of independents are like that too honestly.

I’ve heard it said for many years that so-called independents are “temporarily embarrassed Republicans.”

I read somewhere an article recently about so-called independents, that they pretty much vote for one party or the other just as if they were in those parties.

No Depression Oct 27, 2016 • 8:15:53pm

re: #30 weave

That would not be good if they are deciding on Trump :(

Honestly, I wouldn’t panic over that. I get the feeling that most “undecideds” are just conservatives that are too embarrassed to openly admit it. You pretty much have to contort yourself into knots to be an undecided, and that’s what conservatives excel at.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:16:42pm

re: #38 Anymouse

I’ve heard it said for many years that so-called independents are “temporarily embarrassed Republicans.”

I read somewhere an article recently about so-called independents, that they pretty much vote for one party or the other just as if they were in those parties.

I think a lot of people who register Indy do so for a couple reasons- one to act above party politics and the other to be able to vote in either primary should said primary be open.

weave Oct 27, 2016 • 8:17:09pm

re: #28 Nyet

Undecideds deciding?

There’s another thing though. Not all of the states are showing this positive Trump trend. Just some of the battleground ones. Virginia is pretty flat, for example.

goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 8:17:51pm

Mike Kirk is not apologizing for his comments about Duckworth’s family. Stmt via @frankthorp #ILSen pic.twitter.com/mSWLYdy7Ge

— Alexandra Jaffe (@ajjaffe) October 28, 2016

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:17:57pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

It’s not turning around. 538’s model is just insanely reactive and desperately wants to revert to a horserace whenever possible.

Sam Wang, keeping his eye on the election is quite different than Nate Silver:

election.princeton.edu

The turning of one or two state polls does not an election make. I am not interested in poll unskewing, I’ll leave that to Karl Rove. Professor Wang doesn’t unskew polls either.

Then there is Prof. Wang’s daily histogram:

election.princeton.edu

Which shows no path for Mr. Trump. None, not one.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:19:00pm

re: #39 No Depression

Honestly, I wouldn’t panic over that. I get the feeling that most “undecideds” are just conservatives that are too embarrassed to openly admit it. You pretty much have to contort yourself into knots to be an undecided, and that’s what conservatives excel at.

Didn’t the unskewed dude make a big deal of Romney beating Obama among indies ignorithat a lot of indies are just Republicans in denial. Hannity hell denied being a Republican even though he’s a blatant GOP hack through and would be doing the same water carrying for Kasich that he is Trump.

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:20:00pm

I’m using Ohio as the example. They have had the most data come out this week.

I can’t even easily find the voter data for SurveyMonkey.

I looked at Remington, and they have the Democrats Outnumbering Republicans by 9%, and 19% of African Americans, and 36% of Hispanics going to Trump. The only part correct is the Female-Male ratio.

Can’t find Demographics for Pulse Opinion either.

Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 8:20:25pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

It’s not turning around. 538’s model is just insanely reactive and desperately wants to revert to a horserace whenever possible.

IIRC, Nate pretty much copped to this last week in one of his articles, saying that his model assumes that the race will end up tightening towards the end and is weighted towards Trump making up ground.

No Depression Oct 27, 2016 • 8:20:28pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Didn’t the unskewed dude make a big deal of Romney beating Obama among indies ignorithat a lot of indies are just Republicans in denial. Hannity hell denied being a Republican even though he’s a blatant GOP hack through and would be doing the same water carrying for Kasich that he is Trump.

Bill O’Reilly is also “independent” IIRC.

Joe Bacon Oct 27, 2016 • 8:20:38pm

@seanhannity We know that the God you worship is Ayn Rand!

— josephebacon (@josephebacon) October 28, 2016

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:20:46pm

@seanhannity Yet, if your master whistled, you would go running, tail wagging and all.

— Doug Spiker (@TaxSnafu) October 27, 2016

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God is my only master jackass. “The Truth Shall Set You Free” https://t.co/q2eNi6suYn

— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) October 27, 2016

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And then a voice from Heaven could be heard, saying “I am The Lord, Thy God: who the f**k are you calling a master jackass?” https://t.co/tXbDTogKRt

— I, Hoebot. (@eclecticbrotha) October 28, 2016

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And The Lord God did fade him. And the shade was exceeding great. https://t.co/KDO9lhwYXm

— I, Hoebot. (@eclecticbrotha) October 28, 2016

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HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:20:46pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

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In other words she started it so it’s okay for me to be a bigot. You’re no different than Joe Walsh and Donald Trump, Mark no matter how much you lie to yourself.

Stanley Sea Oct 27, 2016 • 8:21:35pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:21:36pm

re: #43 Anymouse

I don’t try to unskew, but if the data from a poll seems to fly in the face of literally everything else, then I disregard it.

That Remington poll also only has 9% of the Ohio Electorate being under 29.

No Depression Oct 27, 2016 • 8:22:12pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

IIRC, Nate pretty much copped to this last week in one of his articles, saying that his model assumes that the race will end up tightening towards the end and is weighted towards Trump making up ground.

I don’t think that’s a faulty assumption at all, to be honest. Which is why we can’t be complacent. I’m not gonna believe in a blowout for Hillary until I see it with my own eyes.

A wild WITHAK appeared! Oct 27, 2016 • 8:22:49pm

re: #52 Ziggy_TARDIS

I don’t try to unskew, but if the data from a poll seems to fly in the face of literally everything else, then I disregard it.

That Remington poll also only has 9% of the Ohio Electorate being under 29.

Disregarding data because it doesn’t fit your preconceived notions of “correct” is unskewing.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:22:58pm

re: #47 No Depression

Bill O’Reilly is also “independent” IIRC.

Yeah I think there were documents that showed that to be a lie and man I can’t tell you how many “libertarians” I’ve encountered are actually conservatives who just aren’t total dicks about weed.

Stanley Sea Oct 27, 2016 • 8:23:43pm

re: #24 No Depression

I think some tightening of the polls should be expected. The Hillary hate on the right is very real. That alone is enough to drive marginal Trump voters to the polls, despite any disgust they might have with him.

I rape, you vote.

Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:23:44pm

re: #53 No Depression

I don’t think that’s a faulty assumption at all, to be honest. Which is why we can’t be complacent. I’m not gonna believe in a blowout for Hillary until I see it with my own eyes.

Considering the number of people in my village and the township (the township is the our only precinct though voters outside town cannot vote in village elections), I would be less-than-surprised if Hillary Clinton takes my precinct.

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:24:48pm

re: #53 No Depression

I won’t believe we will win period until wen get enough votes to combine with the Blue Wall that is the West Coast to get to 270.

Blue Wall is CA, WA, OR, and HI. That is 78 Electoral Votes.

So, I will not relax until we have 192 in the Bank.

Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 8:26:45pm

Armed gangs can now invade and occupy Area 51, an Alex Jones twofer.

Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:26:49pm

An asshole vet: dailykos.com

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:29:18pm

re: #54 A wild WITHAK appeared!

However, most other polls nationally and in other states show massively different results for those Demographics.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:29:19pm

Lre: #60 Nyet

An asshole vet: dailykos.com

Unfortunately there are a few vets who are assholes like this. One of the few Trumpers my age I know is one.

Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:30:31pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

They apparently think them being vets is an excuse or a shield.

Bass Reeves Oct 27, 2016 • 8:31:52pm

re: #54 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Well…maybe? I mean, some polls are literally just bad, or designed to achieve a predetermined conclusion. Do those not tend to fly in the face of all of the other polling? Is that the same thing as ‘unskewing’?

Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 8:32:31pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

re: #63 Nyet

“Wade” could also be lying.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:32:52pm

re: #63 Nyet

They apparently think them being vets is an excuse or a shield.

Most definitely. I respect our vets but being a vet doesn’t excuse bigotry or what happened to this lady. And I’m glad to say my grandfather never had any bigotry towards Koreans after his experience in that war.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:33:29pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

“Wade” could also be lying.

Certainly could be. I don’t discount that either.

Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:33:39pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

“Wade” could also be lying.

Maybe, but there’s no evidence of that.

Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:34:45pm

re: #60 Nyet

An asshole vet: dailykos.com

Y’all will have to cover for us, because this state is pretty much in the tank for Donald Trump (though polling is very thin):

electionprojection.com

In the meantime, you’re right, the guy was an ass. That said, #notallvets (/s)

Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 8:35:06pm

I’ve always thought that guards at sensitive federal facilities should try to keep things peaceful and let the legal system deal with trespassing protesters. Not anymore: If they are armed and you have something like nukes or drone control on site, shoot to kill.

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:35:12pm

re: #64 Bass Reeves

That’s my thinking. That Remington poll looks weird.

And I cannot even find Data for the SurveyMonkey or Pulse Opinion Strategies.

KGxvi Oct 27, 2016 • 8:35:30pm

Holloween decorations in my neighborhood:

Instagram

Meanwhile, the award for creepiest #holloween decorations goes to these guy #zombies #walkingdead #creepy #nope

Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:37:09pm

re: #70 Shiplord Kirel

At least they killed that …cum guy.

Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:37:10pm

re: #68 Nyet

Maybe, but there’s no evidence of that.

And there is no evidence he is not, either.

Though stolen valour is not a crime (the law was struck down as unconstitutional), there are plenty of people who claim service they did not do (Sen. Mark Kirk for example).

Since no one was apparently present for said jerk’s note, all we can say about the person is he (or she?) is a jerk, nothing more.

Kragar Oct 27, 2016 • 8:37:39pm

Breitbart readers are convinced Hillary sabotaged Mike Pence’s plane. Because sure, why not? https://t.co/NmpRproR7G

— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) October 28, 2016

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 8:38:10pm

re: #75 Kragar

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 8:38:37pm

re: #68 Nyet

Maybe, but there’s no evidence of that.

There is not any that he is telling the truth either and we know there are a lot of fake vets among the RWNJ population.

(edited for grammar, and I am not drunk)

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:38:46pm

re: #73 Nyet

LaVoy Finicum

Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:39:13pm

re: #74 Anymouse

And there is no evidence he is not, either.

Yes, but there is no reason to assume he is lying.

Since no one was apparently present for said jerk’s note, all we can say about the person is he (or she?) is a jerk, nothing more.

We can say that he’s a vet jerk.

No Depression Oct 27, 2016 • 8:39:22pm

re: #75 Kragar

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I saw a video of Crooked Hillary cutting the brake lines herself. Believe me!

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:39:40pm

You know though, it always amazes me that the decals and bumper stickers on a stranger’s car could infuriate someone that much. I can remember seeing anti choice stickers when I was a kid and although I thought em tacky, never crossed my mind to mess with them or the car. People disagree. Maybe it’s in part because I don’t do confrontation but I usually keep my politics to myself unless it’s here or I feel I really have to speak up especially if it’s someone I expect better of being ignorant.

Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 8:39:58pm

re: #73 Nyet

At least they killed that …cum guy.

Saint LaVoy of the Blue Tarp.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:40:17pm

re: #75 Kragar

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That was earlier than I thought.

Lidane Oct 27, 2016 • 8:42:15pm

Urban #Texas counties break #Day4 records, as has come to be expected. There’s not gonna be any voters left, @JulianCastro. #Election2016 pic.twitter.com/7eO6TNYaCT

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Kragar Oct 27, 2016 • 8:42:39pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel

“And the martyr did spake “Shit, they came and took it.”
and lo, did he then snuff it.”
-The Book of Lavoy

makeitstop Oct 27, 2016 • 8:43:26pm

Whoa. That was ridiculously good.

CandyRat sure seems to find some really talented players.

They’re reinventing how the instrument is played.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:43:59pm

Remember though the attacks on Kerry’s service were from veterans. Wade could be full of bs but I’m not gonna be shocked either way since unfortunately our vets can be just as ugly politically as non vets just as some of our vets like Congresswoman Duckworth can be extraordinary.

Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:44:28pm

re: #77 Shiplord Kirel

There is not any he is telling the truth either and we know there are a lot of fake vets among the RWNJ population.

Being a vet is not an extraordinary claim, I don’t go around doubting everyone who claims to be a vet (including folks here, whose names I don’t even know) so I don’t see why his claim in this context would be in reasonable doubt. Is it absolutely “waterproof”? No. Is it more probably true than not? Yes.

HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:47:35pm

Sergei, one last thing before I go to bed but what are your thoughts on Masha Gessen, I saw her interviewed on Nat Geo show about Putin.

Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 8:47:39pm

re: #68 Nyet

Maybe, but there’s no evidence of that.

There’s also no evidence he’s Wade or a veteran. And we know of people who have lied about their service. I’d say either is equally likely.

Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:50:15pm

re: #90 Belafon

There’s also no evidence he’s Wade or a veteran. And we know of people who have lied about their service. I’d say either is equally likely.

OK, you win. Also, there are people who have lied about their whereabouts and political views, so it’s as equally likely that you’re not a Texan liberal as that you are./

goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 8:51:18pm

Philippine leader Duterte, who once called pope “son of a bitch,” vows to curse no more after hearing a voice. https://t.co/Htvu4XAZdt

— The Associated Press (@AP) October 28, 2016

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Thank the Dog that this clownshoes wearing Bugbear doesn’t have access to nuclear weapons. https://t.co/M2u8cmfRk9

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 8:51:19pm

re: #84 Lidane

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We were talking about it at work, not who people were going to vote for (though a couple said they were going to pick at random) because the most outspoken conservative and the most outspoken liberal (me) were in the same room, and I’m pretty sure I am in a minority even in my small group. Most of the group will vote early, but there are those of us who like to do it on election day. This year, I am going to take my youngest with me.

Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 8:51:23pm

I like the Canadian Laws, where Election stuff is done in a restricted window.

Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 8:52:10pm

re: #91 Nyet

OK, you win. Also, there are people who have lied about their whereabouts and political views, so it’s as equally likely that you’re not a Texan liberal as that you are./

I’m not even sure I’m real, but I still plan on voting on the 8th.

Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 8:52:40pm

re: #91 Nyet

OK, you win. Also, there are people who have lied about their whereabouts and political views, so it’s as equally likely that you’re not a Texan liberal as that you are./

I do like it when you lash out, though.

Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:53:00pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Sergei, one last thing before I go to bed but what are your thoughts on Masha Gessen, I saw her interviewed on Nat Geo show about Putin.

TBH I’ve never been interested in her, but I suppose if you want an informed critique of Putin, you can try her.

She’s a bit of a loose cannon sometimes.

Lesbian Speaks Openly About Eradicating Marriage

retired cynic Oct 27, 2016 • 8:53:01pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

Talk of someone who needs to be on meds, and preferably in a padded cell.

Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 8:53:22pm

re: #88 Nyet

Being a vet is not an extraordinary claim, I don’t go around doubting everyone who claims to be a vet (including folks here, whose names I don’t even know) so I don’t see why his claim in this context would be in reasonable doubt. Is it absolutely “waterproof”? No. Is it more probably true than not? Yes.

We just don’t know, and can’t know unless “Wade” is somehow identified. This grabs my attention because ammosexual nutcakes like the oathkeepers are so fond of invoking veteran status when they make their barely veiled threats of insurrection and terrorism. The authenticity of these claims then becomes significant. Some of the worst, including most of the leaders, are undoubtedly veterans since their names and purported records are public. Quite a few others are definitely not though.

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Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 8:54:46pm

re: #96 Belafon

I do like it when you lash out, though.

If you need to call poking holes in your logic that.

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HappyWarrior Oct 27, 2016 • 8:55:04pm

Lre: #97 Nyet

TBH I’ve never been interested in her, but I suppose if you want an informed critique of Putin, you can try her.

She’s a bit of a loose cannon sometimes.

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Gotcha thanks. She just seemed interesting since she’s a lesbian who has spent considerable time in both the US and Russia.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 8:56:49pm

re: #79 Nyet

Yes, but there is no reason to assume he is lying.

So what’s the reason to assume he is telling the truth then? Because he wrote a poorly-worded note on a napkin? The military has a basic reading and writing requirement.

If I wanted to prove I am a Navy vet, I can do it a number of ways rather than simply claiming I am a vet (show my retired ID card, show my DD-214, even show pictures of myself in uniform):

IrICXuuplgOjzIKqLt4oogEZgA35eGZEc0Alf0w8DL8yCfQV1vJpapdEjAB4uoh+2oELH83KRmJfgcMdlHROyg5l/Zbh0iwQ4qmQ8YwcBG/57gTqJ0TA7DC4cPXHsB0QniTapnPTQ/3cRqTe3RcPwOPIJCBdFrnde82o/RpX0rUtBaC1QNrQ/qj8mxgh5+LEVnHMlVUO0awaqjdjgzZYTRIbprguccX5nP7MJUiF8oosz6SDSAKyJFhYgJShoqN54gNtz5A4aAT5yqHrwHyaHw9HxZiV1tZbk52rsSgmuKILIjDAaWsmHhU8lSiXiGolLTFSgvJOXWqvvriv8sbHbq2See7DlRuiVcasJjrHoUoA0HkjdXWaHENfVCmTDunvIlVPN6E3Sf79epGIdsBL50b/hkNDxwfq5cF1y1StxmpaKRNpbRCKvUiPZJUo9oQTUmsNXwCSZTk=

We can say that he’s a vet jerk.

Nope, no evidence he is anything but a jerk.

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Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 8:57:35pm

The person could be a vet. But people use veteran status in the same way they use God, as an argument from authority. If someone told me I had to choose vet or not vet, and they didn’t like me saying “either”, then I would probably choose vet. But there’s plenty of experience to leave open the possibility that it’s not a vet, especially if you narrow it down to people who use their veteran status to harass others.

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 8:58:16pm

re: #28 Nyet

Undecideds deciding?

Somewhere, right now, an undecided voter is very late to work, struggling with the choice between raisin bran and rat poison for breakfast.

— Pumpkin🎃King (@MMonides) October 27, 2016

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Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 8:58:36pm

re: #100 Nyet

If you need to call poking holes in your logic that.

My logic was to say it could be either choice.

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Sherlock Hound Oct 27, 2016 • 8:59:11pm

re: #74 Anymouse

What’s the form that describes one’s military service? DD-214? I’d like to make that into a macro for the 101st Fighting Keyboarders out there. There are some shitbirds who were better at gaming their promotions than they were doing the job in their MOS. I decline to suck up to such people.

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allegro Oct 27, 2016 • 8:59:18pm

re: #103 Belafon

The person could be a vet. But people use veteran status in the same way they use God, as an argument from authority. If someone told me I had to choose vet or not vet, and they didn’t like me saying “either”, then I would probably choose vet. But there’s plenty of experience to leave open the possibility that it’s not a vet, especially if you narrow it down to people who use their veteran status to harass others.

I think it’s just as likely to be a 15 year old kid. The scrawl and verbiage support it.

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Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 8:59:20pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

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That’s the name of my wifi.

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 9:00:41pm

re: #91 Nyet

OK, you win. Also, there are people who have lied about their whereabouts and political views, so it’s as equally likely that you’re not a Texan liberal as that you are./

It’s true, I’m actually a free republic spy from Florida. What is my motive? Free republic and Florida should explain everything.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 9:01:01pm

re: #107 allegro

We know the person who wrote exists. That is all we can say for certain. They could be lying about their name and former status.

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Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 9:01:02pm

re: #102 Anymouse

You know, if one wants to go the full doubter route, those are still just pictures on the internet, that one can fake etc.

The point is, I did not practically doubt that you’re a vet before. Sure, people can lie about such things. But this is not some sort of an extraordinary claim that one has to rejected before being proven with the documentary evidence.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 9:01:13pm

re: #106 Sherlock Hound

What’s the form that describes one’s military service? DD-214? I’d like to make that into a macro for the 101st Fighting Keyboarders out there. There are some shitbirds who were better at gaming their promotions than they were doing the job in their MOS. I decline to suck up to such people.

Yup. DD-214 is one’s discharge papers, with a description of service, awards, commendations, &c.

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Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 9:02:10pm

re: #112 Anymouse

Yup. DD-214 is one’s discharge papers, with a description of service, awards, commendations, &c.

And, most importantly, whether you were discharged honorably or not.

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Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 9:02:13pm

re: #105 Belafon

My logic was to say it could be either choice.

Your logic was to say that the probability is equally likely.
Of course, being an anonymous person on the internet that puts you in a sort of an ironic position.

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 9:04:29pm

I’ve never skied in my life. You read it on the internet so it’s true.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 9:06:37pm

re: #111 Nyet

You know, if one wants to go the full doubter route, those are still just pictures on the internet, that one can fake etc.

The point is, I did not practically doubt that you’re a vet before. Sure, people can lie about such things. But this is not some sort of an extraordinary claim that one has to reject before being proven with the documentary evidence.

That’s true. My photograph (or the photograph I claim is me) could be entirely fake, as the Internet is proof of nothing.

I might not even look like that at all.

I could if I met someone who doubted present my credentials.

That said, even if the note-writer is a USMC vet, he is still a jerk.

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Belafon Oct 27, 2016 • 9:07:05pm

re: #114 Nyet

Your logic was to say that the probability is equally likely.
Of course, being an anonymous person on the internet that puts you in a sort of an ironic position.

OK…..Since we’re playing logic here, tell me how that my position any less valid. For all I know, I could be an advanced AI sitting in a virtual room with two displays (one of which is showing ANTLR generated code, and the other this page) pretending to be human to do these statements. I might not have been in the military, but I personally wouldn’t know that because my programmers had put all that history in my “brain.”

Though I will say, the environment they’ve programmed me in sucks right now, and they need to improve my enjoyment at work, or I’m going to start looking for Morpheus.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 9:08:34pm

re: #117 Belafon

OK…..Since we’re playing logic here, tell me how that my position any less valid. For all I know, I could be an advanced AI sitting in a virtual room with two displays (one of which is showing ANTLR generated code, and the other this page) pretending to be human to do these statements. I might not have been in the military, but I personally wouldn’t know that because my programmers had put all that history in my “brain.”

Though I will say, the environment they’ve programmed me in sucks right now, and they need to improve my enjoyment at work, or I’m going to start looking for Morpheus.

You could even be Microsoft’s Tay Twitter bot. (If that’s the case, I feel sorry for you.)

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 9:08:40pm

William Jennings Bryan, 1915 pic.twitter.com/6Lvjy0jRHE

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Ran for president (and lost) three times. A real religious whack-a-loon.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 9:09:37pm

re: #119 teleskiguy

Good to see my state hasn’t changed much in a hundred years. /s

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 9:11:32pm

re: #111 Nyet

You know, if one wants to go the full doubter route, those are still just pictures on the internet, that one can fake etc.

The point is, I did not practically doubt that you’re a vet before. Sure, people can lie about such things. But this is not some sort of an extraordinary claim that one has to reject before being proven with the documentary evidence.

Wade’s claim doesn’t rise to the level of the extraordinary, but it is a component of a threat. That makes it more significant than a similar claim made in the ordinary course of posting on a message board.

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retired cynic Oct 27, 2016 • 9:11:52pm

re: #119 teleskiguy

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Ran for president (and lost) three times. A real religious whack-a-loon.

He needs a different hat.

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Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 9:12:29pm

re: #117 Belafon

OK…..Since we’re playing logic here, tell me how that my position any less valid. For all I know, I could be an advanced AI sitting in a virtual room with two displays (one of which is showing ANTLR generated code, and the other this page) pretending to be human to do these statements. I might not have been in the military, but I personally wouldn’t know that because my programmers had put all that history in my “brain.”

Though I will say, the environment they’ve programmed me in sucks right now, and they need to improve my enjoyment at work, or I’m going to start looking for Morpheus.

We’re not talking the Matrix scenario. We’re talking someone knowingly pretending to be someone else scenario. Which is so extremely usual on the interwebs, even more so than in real life, that one could as well go full nihilist and say, hey, unless you see this otherwise anonymous person’s ID (or something), you can’t assume they are what they say.

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No Depression Oct 27, 2016 • 9:12:36pm

re: #119 teleskiguy

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Ran for president (and lost) three times. A real religious whack-a-loon.

How do we know if he even existed though? We can’t know for sure.

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allegro Oct 27, 2016 • 9:14:14pm

Whoa! Hillary ad on during Colbert here in Houston. She’s going for it!

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Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 9:18:00pm

re: #121 Shiplord Kirel

Well, yes, when a vet status is mentioned somewhere, there’s usually a reason for its mention. This time it was intimidation, other times it’s to make some other point (“as a vet, I …”).

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freetoken Oct 27, 2016 • 9:19:40pm

I’m so not looking forward to the next 4 years of House committees’ endless investigations and subpoenas…

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 9:21:28pm

re: #124 No Depression

How do we know if he even existed though? We can’t know for sure.

I think he’s in the Bible somewhere.
Here it is in Judges 15, KJV, an obvious prophetic reference to Bryan’s oratorical skills and his future status as a mighty tool of God:

15 And he found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith.

16 And Samson said, With the jawbone of an ass, heaps upon heaps, with the jaw of an ass have I slain a thousand men.

17 And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking, that he cast away the jawbone out of his hand, and called that place Ramathlehi.

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 9:24:59pm

re: #126 Nyet

Well, yes, when a vet status is mentioned somewhere, there’s usually a reason for its mention. This time it was intimidation, other times it’s to make some other point (“as a vet, I …”).

Quite true, and its use in intimidation is more significant than in, say, grousing about chickenhawks (which is my most common reason for mentioning it).

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 9:26:49pm

I’m mulling over if I am brave/dumb enough to try to learn the attack Beta from Midgar Zolom in Final Fantasy VII.

At Level 17.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 9:34:18pm

.@MarkKirk pic.twitter.com/VMFsNoog2O

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 9:39:37pm

An FBI agent testified that 16,636 live rounds and nearly 1,700 spent casings were found at Malheur. https://t.co/xRqvhF8ThG

— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) October 27, 2016

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Apparently that’s a lot of freedom https://t.co/5APXoReatr

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 28, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 9:41:31pm

I’m sure D_F’s take on this Kirk fiasco will be completely room temperature and reasonable.

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 9:42:19pm

#NowPlaying Eels > Shootenanny! > Love Of The Loveless https://t.co/xG93Irp2ud

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) July 31, 2016

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 9:42:33pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

I’m sure D_F’s take on this Kirk fiasco will be completely room temperature and reasonable.

“Good politics.”

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goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 9:43:14pm

This is like the National Geographic special where the watering hole keeps getting smaller until everyone eats each other. pic.twitter.com/hk8ZORMbEa

— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) October 28, 2016

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 9:43:43pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

“Well, he’s right, in a way …”

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 9:45:25pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

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The GOP Donner Party continues to eat its own.

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Kragar Oct 27, 2016 • 9:45:55pm

re: #132 Anymouse

An FBI agent testified that 16,636 live rounds and nearly 1,700 spent casings were found at Malheur. https://t.co/xRqvhF8ThG

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But remember, the Bundy’s weren’t planning anything, they just showed up with all that ammo for no reason whatsoever…

OFFS https://t.co/PH2KBPmwTx

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 28, 2016

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 9:46:48pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

I’m sure D_F’s take on this Kirk fiasco will be completely room temperature and reasonable.

In a way, I am sorry that Dark Falcon is not posting here any more.

I only came across him just before he left. There were things discussed here we agreed on, but more we did not. At least with me he was civil.

I have no objection whatsoever to someone arguing passionately for their political position or favoured candidates. Such discussions are what advance understanding in politics.

My understanding is (correct me if I am wrong) that Mr. Falcon left apparently because he felt he was not being treated fairly here, is that right?

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 9:50:25pm

James O’Keefe hyping a literal revolution if Donald Trump loses.

rawstory.com

Score that with the Mahleur decision in Oregon today …

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William Lewis Oct 27, 2016 • 9:51:00pm

re: #140 Anymouse

I think he’ll be back after the election. I got the impression that he just wanted to avoid having to defend Kirk and Trump.

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 9:51:13pm

re: #140 Anymouse

My understanding is (correct me if I am wrong) that Mr. Falcon left apparently because he felt he was not being treated fairly here, is that right?

He doesn’t comment here anymore because he got tired of being called out for stupid backwards asinine points of view, because that’s all he’s been spouting for a long time. He’s a Republican shill through and through, and don’t believe him when he says on Twitter that he’s not voting for The Donald™. He’s a company man all the way.

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 9:53:33pm

DF’s issue was that he seems to have recognized awhile back that his party had become a disorganized mosh pit of hatred, bigotry, and rank stupidity…but because of familial relations, he would not break away from them. I felt for him at the beginning, because I know that my own father is one of those conservative retirees who thinks the whole country went to hell under Carter and has voted a straight Republican ticket ever since. But as time has worn on, my patience with him wore thin. He’s one of those I think of as “Good Republicans,” insistent that he’s not really part of the cannibal cult that his party’s base has become, but will not stop making excuses for his support of them.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 9:56:35pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

He doesn’t comment here anymore because he got tired of being called out for stupid backwards asinine points of view, because that’s all he’s been spouting for a long time. He’s a Republican shill through and through, and don’t believe him when he says on Twitter that he’s not voting for The Donald™. He’s a company man all the way.

Well, I haven’t read anything he wrote on Twitter.

I’m a company man too, which is why I both convinced my wife to abandon the Libertarian Party and voted for Hillary Clinton. (She did too.) So, two votes for Hillary in my precinct. She might get as many as four or five.

I was interested in what Dark Falcon had to say, even if I didn’t agree with much of it. If nothing else, one cannot win elections if one does not try to understand the grievances of other party supporters, even if the grievances are not grounded in reality or are flawed in some way.

I would encourage him to come back here if I had a way to do so, though I am about as liberal as he is conservative (my wife describes me as slightly to the right of Trotsky).

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Nyet Oct 27, 2016 • 10:01:35pm

re: #145 Anymouse

I would encourage him to come back here if I had a way to do so, though I am about as liberal as he is conservative (my wife describes me as slightly to the right of Trotsky).

I understand the point of the joking comparison, but it’s still strange to read it, considering Trotsky wasn’t a liberal in any shape or form…

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 10:02:43pm

re: #146 Nyet

I understand the point of the joking comparison, but it’s still strange to read it, considering Trotsky wasn’t a liberal in any shape or form…

Well you have to go with the Trotsky you had, not the Trotsky you wish you had. /s

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Romantic Heretic Oct 27, 2016 • 10:15:46pm

re: #15 No Depression

Maybe Trump is Hannity’s god. I’m sure Trump could find a lot in common with the God of the Old Testament.

I figure Trump is more like Zeus. Zeus couldn’t keep it in his pants either.

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William Lewis Oct 27, 2016 • 10:22:30pm

re: #146 Nyet

I understand the point of the joking comparison, but it’s still strange to read it, considering Trotsky wasn’t a liberal in any shape or form…

You’ve never lived until you have watched a three way far left cat fight between Trotskites, Maoists and Stalinists. Made me glad to be in the liberal left of the prounion DSA of Mike Harrington. Insane fuckers.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 10:24:26pm

To be a Republican right now is to be either A.) overtly racist B.) willing to condone racism, or C.) unable to recognize flagrant racism.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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If a Republican like @MarkKirk can be as overtly racist & disgusting as he demonstrated today it means the rot runs through party’s marrow.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 10:26:18pm

re: #149 William Lewis

You’ve never lived until you have watched a three way far left cat fight between Trotskites, Maoists and Stalinists. Made me glad to be in the liberal left of the prounion DSA of Mike Harrington. Insane fuckers.

Mike Harrington the founder of the gaming company?

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William Lewis Oct 27, 2016 • 10:26:29pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

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GOP delenda est.

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TedStriker Oct 27, 2016 • 10:30:24pm

re: #151 Anymouse

Mike Harrington the founder of the gaming company?

Not Mike Harrington, who founded Valve with Gabe Newell; it’s a different Michael Harrington.

/just looked it all up on Wiki for shits and giggles

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William Lewis Oct 27, 2016 • 10:31:35pm

re: #151 Anymouse

Mike Harrington the founder of the gaming company?

Ah no. Irish Catholic turned Atheist socialist. After the implosion of the left at the end of the 60’s he founded the Democratic Socialists of America - Marxist, pro union, pro democracy and generally working with the Democrats to pull them to the left.

Good wiki article on him but I can’t get the link right on this phone.

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TedStriker Oct 27, 2016 • 10:33:06pm

re: #154 William Lewis

Ah no. Irish Catholic turned Atheist socialist. After the implosion of the left at the end of the 60’s he founded the Democratic Socialists of America - Marxist, pro union, pro democracy and generally working with the Democrats to pull them to the left.

Good wiki article on him but I can’t get the link right on this phone.

Michael Harrington (founder of the Democratic Socialists of America): en.wikipedia.org

Mike Harrington (co-founder of Valve): en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 10:43:25pm

re: #155 TedStriker

Michael Harrington (founder of the Democratic Socialists of America): en.wikipedia.org

Mike Harrington (co-founder of Valve): en.wikipedia.org

Atheist, socialist member of the DSA myself, how come I missed Mr. Harrington? He’s never called or sent chocolates… .

Ah, my inflated sense of self-worth …

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 10:54:19pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

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This is why it’s so foolhardy to believe that even a major loss this year would change the GOP. Those who are #NeverTrump are every bit as horrid as he is, they’re just generally better about keeping it under their hats. When he loses in two weeks, the party will excommunicate him and all who fell with him, wipe their name from the records, and then insist from that day forward that the party is “cleansed” and they can move forward.

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EPR-radar Oct 27, 2016 • 11:02:26pm

re: #130 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m mulling over if I am brave/dumb enough to try to learn the attack Beta from Midgar Zolom in Final Fantasy VII.

At Level 17.

That’s a pain in the ass at low levels, and usually requires you to get the fire ring in Costa del Sol and then backtrack.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 27, 2016 • 11:03:27pm

re: #158 EPR-radar

I think that is what I will do.

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EPR-radar Oct 27, 2016 • 11:07:53pm

re: #159 Ziggy_TARDIS

I think that is what I will do.

Once you’ve reached North Corel you can go south to the edge of the desert and learn aqualung from the harpy. That’s just as strong as beta, doesn’t need any backtracking, and is a less dangerous fight because the harpy is weak.

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EPR-radar Oct 27, 2016 • 11:09:15pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

This is why it’s so foolhardy to believe that even a major loss this year would change the GOP. Those who are #NeverTrump are every bit as horrid as he is, they’re just generally better about keeping it under their hats. When he loses in two weeks, the party will excommunicate him and all who fell with him, wipe their name from the records, and then insist from that day forward that the party is “cleansed” and they can move forward.

In other words, there is no believable path by which a party like the GOP, which is shit from top to bottom and from side to side, gets less shitty.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 11:11:01pm

#TrueDetectiveSeason3 pic.twitter.com/FhYQokoKb7

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 11:11:30pm

re: #161 EPR-radar

In other words, there is no believable path by which a party like the GOP, which is shit from top to bottom and from side to side, gets less shitty.

There is no such thing as peak wingnut.

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EPR-radar Oct 27, 2016 • 11:14:30pm

re: #163 Anymouse

There is no such thing as peak wingnut.

W Bush -> McCain -> Romney -> Trump -> ???

is terrifying.

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 11:16:38pm

re: #161 EPR-radar

In other words, there is no believable path by which a party like the GOP, which is shit from top to bottom and from side to side, gets less shitty.

None. Or, at least none that doesn’t involve a Road to Damascus moment. So long as the party continues to bury their mistakes in unmarked graves, covered in quicklime and concrete, they will never change in any significant fashion. They’ll just keep making the same mistakes, looking for new and more inventive ways to retain power. They’ll just keep finding new ways to fuck that chicken until the courts permanently smack them down or they find an argument that a SCOTUS bench will agree with.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 11:17:34pm

re: #164 EPR-radar

W Bush -> McCain -> Romney -> Trump -> ???

is terrifying.

Bachmann?
Palin?
Gohmert?
Sessions?
Scalise?
Santorum?

There are just so many wingnuts to choose from in the GOP, it’s hard to settle on just one. They make Senator Lindsey Graham sound like the soul of reason.

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Teukka Oct 27, 2016 • 11:19:38pm

re: #166 Anymouse

Bachmann?
Palin?
Gohmert?
Sessions?
Scalise?
Santorum?

There are just so many wingnuts to choose from in the GOP, it’s hard to settle on just one. They make Senator Lindsey Graham sound like the soul of reason.

*cringes*

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 11:20:40pm

Here’s the thing to bear in mind: Between now and 2020, the GOP will convince themselves that Trump didn’t lose because of what he ran on, he lost because of who he was. In 4 years, they’ll find somebody who will be out there blowing the same dog whistles, saying the same shit, but smart enough not to say things like “Grab’em by the pussy” where a hot mic is to be found.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 11:27:55pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing to bear in mind: Between now and 2020, the GOP will convince themselves that Trump didn’t lose because of what he ran on, he lost because of who he was. In 4 years, they’ll find somebody who will be out there blowing the same dog whistles, saying the same shit, but smart enough not to say things like “Grab’em by the pussy” where a hot mic is to be found.

Yeah, about that:

usatoday.com

A 51% majority of likely voters express at least some concern about the possibility of violence on Election Day; one in five are “very concerned.” Three of four say they have confidence that the United States will have the peaceful transfer of power that has marked American democracy for more than 200 years, but just 40% say they are “very confident” about that.

More than four in 10 of Trump supporters say they won’t recognize the legitimacy of Clinton as president, if she prevails, because they say she wouldn’t have won fair and square.

Of course, this could all be whining. We’ll have to see. The rest of the USA Today article goes into interviews with both Trump and Clinton’s supporters on what they think will follow on Nov. 8.

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 27, 2016 • 11:29:20pm

re: #164 EPR-radar

W Bush -> McCain -> Romney -> Trump -> ???

is terrifying.

Alex Jones

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 11:31:53pm

re: #170 Shiplord Kirel

Alex Jones

Rush Limbaugh. Sean Hannity. Bill O’Reilly.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 27, 2016 • 11:32:38pm

Trump is courting the Indian-American cohort now.

Trump speaks Hindi in Indian American campaign ad https://t.co/bKqKRCapLu

— The Guardian (@guardian) October 28, 2016

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 11:32:57pm

re: #164 EPR-radar

W Bush -> McCain -> Romney -> Trump -> ???

is terrifying.

President David Duke.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 11:34:17pm

re: #172 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You beat me to it. I was just about to go with that.

huffingtonpost.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 27, 2016 • 11:36:06pm

Derplorable hijacks hashtags for political BS.

How To Catch A Hillary Voter:

Step 1: Put out Trump signs
Step 2: Set the nail trap
Step 3: Wait #OregonStandoff #RIPvine #NoDAPL #Trump pic.twitter.com/oFL9NSdvGb

— Deplorable Scott (@ScottPresler) October 28, 2016

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 11:36:25pm

re: #173 teleskiguy

President David Duke.

Thanks for the next week of nightmares.

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 11:37:44pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Thanks for the next week of nightmares.

//

What are friends for?

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goddamnedfrank Oct 27, 2016 • 11:41:36pm

While I disagree with Obama on nearly everything, I don’t question his fitness to be President. I do with @HillaryClinton. She’s unfit. pic.twitter.com/qeIvX1EgVg

— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) October 27, 2016

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This is your periodic and utterly unasked for reminder that Scott Walker is the way he is because his grandma fucked a flatfish. Google it. https://t.co/7RHltD46Ap

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Actually, on second thought you probably shouldn’t google it.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 11:42:27pm

re: #178 goddamnedfrank

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Scott Walker, the guy people a year ago thought might actually manage to go somewhere in that pack of losers, half-wits, and asshats.

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teleskiguy Oct 27, 2016 • 11:47:30pm

Newt Gingrich, film critic on par with Roger Ebert:

#JackReacherMovie is really good and in some ways more inventive and engaging than the original.tom cruise may have found a role that fits

— Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) October 28, 2016

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 11:56:22pm

re: #175 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Funny, her “nail trap” seems to have caught no Hillary supporters.’

About as big a failure as her candidate, I guess.

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Anymouse Oct 27, 2016 • 11:57:40pm

re: #173 teleskiguy

President David Duke.

President Don Black.

He did try to overthrow the government of Dominica.

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Targetpractice Oct 27, 2016 • 11:58:21pm

There really is a whole new level of chutzpah for the GOP candidates who didn’t even manage a podium finish sitting on Twitter and passing judgment on Hillary’s fitness for the presidency. That’s like the Browns talkin’ shit about the Seahawks.

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Cheechako Oct 27, 2016 • 11:59:53pm

re: #180 teleskiguy

Newt Gingrich, film critic on par with Roger Ebert:

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Cruise needs to grow a foot and add 60 pounds to be Jack Reacher.

Take a close look at Cruise when he pretends to be Reacher, half the shots on him are taken at an angle looking up trying to make him look taller.

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 28, 2016 • 12:02:03am

re: #164 EPR-radar

W Bush -> McCain -> Romney -> Trump -> ???

is terrifying.

So far, we have:

Bachmann
Palin
Gohmert
Sessions
Scalise
Santorum
Alex Jones
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Bill O’Reilly
David Duke

Truly the DUMPSTER OF THE DAMNED.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 12:04:03am

re: #185 Shiplord Kirel

So far, we have:

Bachmann
Palin
Gohmert
Sessions
Scalise
Santorum
Alex Jones
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Bill O’Reilly
David Duke

Truly the DUMPSTER OF THE DAMNED.

LOL! Add Franklin Graham (why not, since the GOP voters seem to think no government experience is better than long-time service, just like when the Army sends in its lowest-ranked private to run a combat campaign).

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Cheechako Oct 28, 2016 • 12:08:42am

re: #185 Shiplord Kirel

So far, we have:

Bachmann
Palin
Gohmert
Sessions
Scalise
Santorum
Alex Jones
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Bill O’Reilly
David Duke

Truly the DUMPSTER OF THE DAMNED.

I wonder if we could get all of them on the same plane and go out to search for the Mystery of the Bermuda Triangle”?

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 12:08:55am

re: #180 teleskiguy

I somehow wound up being gifted one of the wrist watches they gave out as swag to the crew of the first Jack Reacher movie. It’s probably cheap as fuck but like it because except for having Jack Reacher etched onto the back side it just looks like a normal watch with no brand id. If actually I wore wrist watches I’d wear it.

My Jack Reacher SWAG watch

This has been a terrible anecdote.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 12:11:49am

Politico claims that it has “a source close to the Clinton campaign” eyeing on a short list Vice-President Joe Biden for Secretary-of-State.

(Why does my spell check hit “Biden?” Come on, Microsoft, get with the programme, he has only been Vice-President for seven years now.)

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 12:12:35am

Oops. Forgot the link:

politico.com

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 12:14:05am

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

I somehow wound up being gifted one of the wrist watches they gave out as swag to the crew of the first Jack Reacher movie.

Wound up, get it? Totally unintentional hilarity free of charge.

Today should’ve come with alcohol is all I’m sayin’.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 12:18:13am

It’s gotten cool enough here (nighttime lows of 45°F) that I’ve pulled out my sweaters and thermal underwear from storage. Sweaters smell OK, because I stored them in an old suitcase that must breath pretty well, but the thermals I stored in one of those big zipper bags smelled funky. So, I will spend part of my day off washing clothes.

Another exciting day in expat land.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 12:20:42am

re: #185 Shiplord Kirel

So far, we have:

Bachmann
Palin
Gohmert
Sessions
Scalise
Santorum
Alex Jones
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Bill O’Reilly
David Duke

Truly the DUMPSTER OF THE DAMNED.

Add Tom Cotton (Tehran Tom)

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 12:22:20am

re: #192 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s gotten cool enough here (nighttime lows of 45°F) that I’ve pulled out my sweaters and thermal underwear from storage. Sweaters smell OK, because I stored them in an old suitcase that must breath pretty well, but the thermals I stored in one of those big zipper bags smelled funky. So, I will spend part of my day off washing clothes.

Another exciting day in expat land.

Well, China is a bit far for me to be an ex-pat, but Saskatchewan is within driving distance if I need to go (we still have our leftover Canadian money from our summer trip, saved against a Trumpenstein win).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 12:30:44am

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

I somehow wound up being gifted one of the wrist watches they gave out as swag to the crew of the first Jack Reacher movie. It’s probably cheap as fuck but like it because except for having Jack Reacher etched onto the back side it just looks like a normal watch with no brand id. If actually I wore wrist watches I’d wear it.

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This has been a terrible anecdote.

You have been given one of these puppies.
worthpoint.com

I doubt it appears on camera. Probably, you’d have to pop the back off to find out the manufacturer.

EDIT: It’s made (or distributed) by Selco.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Oct 28, 2016 • 12:33:47am

re: #152 William Lewis

GOP delenda est.

Joseph Mallord William Turner - The Decline of the Carthaginian Empire

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 12:34:29am

re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You have been given one of these puppies.
worthpoint.com

I doubt it appears on camera. Probably, you’d have to pop the back off to find out the manufacturer.

Finally I can retire and give up this life of crime.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 12:38:31am

With Marco Rubio running for the US Senate again (the job he said he hated), perhaps we can add him to the list of second-stringer? (That might be a long list.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Oct 28, 2016 • 12:40:00am

re: #197 goddamnedfrank

Finally I can retire and give up this life of crime.

Lido be runnin’,
Havin’ great big fun ‘til he got the note
Sayin’ “toe the line or blow it”
And that was all she wrote

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 1:16:57am

House GOP’s campaign arm runs ad praising Rep. Bob Dold for saying that Trump has “disqualified” himself https://t.co/vwwYit0Izl pic.twitter.com/ZoEPzZdvjW

— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) October 28, 2016

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Oh wow, this should go over well. House @GOP leadership just straight up giving @realDonaldTrump the finger with this move. https://t.co/Ttk143N1Pr

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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freetoken Oct 28, 2016 • 1:17:18am

Mostly those on my Facebook who are Drumpfskind fans appear to have de-friended me, or gone silent. I know some are still there, just not posting.

Anyway, I’m not really surprised at how easily Drumpfskind found his marks. This is the same phenomenon we see over and over. Like all those people who go to hear creationist lecturers ramble on about creationism - it doesn’t really matter what modern science has discovered, as that’s not what is important.

My feeling is that many people in this country are angry because they feel left out. Perhaps they are. But I don’t know who they would have to blame but themselves. While we can readily see how the hate-talkers on AM radio, or several of the Fox News shows, or any of a million websites, can easily feed into this feeling of being a victim of some conspiracy by “elites”, the choice nevertheless to whom to listen. or to read, or to watch, lay with the individual.

I am sticking with my assertion that what lay beneath so much of what we see in the contemporary American public discourse is an existential crisis resulting from two centuries of very rapid change. Change that has swept away the religious foundations of our society - and our society was definitely influence early on by intense religiosity.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 1:24:16am

re: #201 freetoken

I am sticking with my assertion that what lay beneath so much of what we see in the contemporary American public discourse is an existential crisis resulting from two centuries of very rapid change. Change that has swept away the religious foundations of our society - and our society was definitely influence early on by intense religiosity.

As you say, they feel left out, or maybe left behind (hahaha!). Religion is becoming less necessary for an increasing number of people, and the population is becoming more diverse day by day. IOW, the ratio of super-devout white Christians to the overall population is dwindling, and they feel threatened. Plus, the supply of jobs people without college educations could find and live on is also dwindling, or has moved away from where those people live.

They are unhappy and frustrated — just the kind of people who would follow the siren call of someone who says “Only I can fix! Buh-lieve me!”

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 1:28:05am

re: #201 freetoken

Mostly those on my Facebook who are Drumpfskind fans appear to have de-friended me, or gone silent. I know some are still there, just not posting.

Anyway, I’m not really surprised at how easily Drumpfskind found his marks. This is the same phenomenon we see over and over. Like all those people who go to hear creationist lecturers ramble on about creationism - it doesn’t really matter what modern science has discovered, as that’s not what is important.

My feeling is that many people in this country are angry because they feel left out. Perhaps they are. But I don’t know who they would have to blame but themselves. While we can readily see how the hate-talkers on AM radio, or several of the Fox News shows, or any of a million websites, can easily feed into this feeling of being a victim of some conspiracy by “elites”, the choice nevertheless to whom to listen. or to read, or to watch, lay with the individual.

I am sticking with my assertion that what lay beneath so much of what we see in the contemporary American public discourse is an existential crisis resulting from two centuries of very rapid change. Change that has swept away the religious foundations of our society - and our society was definitely influence early on by intense religiosity.

Intense religiousity? All those deists that signed the Declaration of Independence? Or the Muslims who fought in the Revolution (yes, there were Muslims in the Continental Army)?

Jefferson’s prototype for the I Amendment in the Province of Virginia guaranteeing freedom of religion and banning public support for churches?

Evangelicals throughout the history of the USA felt that politics was not an appropriate sphere, until such hucksters as Jerry Falwell and Ralph Reed came along and wedded themselves in an unholy alliance with Ronald Reagan.

I am old enough to remember in most political discourse that religion was a verboten topic in debates.

Though I am not old enough to remember President Kennedy, he was specifically questioned over being Catholic as there was concern his loyalty would be to the Church and not the nation.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 1:30:12am

re: #203 Anymouse

Intense religiousity? All those deists that signed the Declaration of Independence? Or the Muslims who fought in the Revolution (yes, there were Muslims in the Continental Army)?

Jefferson’s prototype for the I Amendment in the Province of Virginia guaranteeing freedom of religion and banning public support for churches?

Evangelicals throughout the history of the USA felt that politics was not an appropriate sphere, until such hucksters as Jerry Falwell and Ralph Reed came along and wedded themselves in an unholy alliance with Ronald Reagan.

I am old enough to remember in most political discourse that religion was a verboten topic in debates.

Though I am not old enough to remember President Kennedy, he was specifically questioned over being Catholic as there was concern his loyalty would be to the Church and not the nation.

Al Smith, as well. Perhaps someday in the near future there will be a dinner named after some Muslim politician who ran for president, but lost.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 1:32:12am

re: #204 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Al Smith, as well. Perhaps someday in the near future there will be a dinner named after some Muslim politician who ran for president, but lost.

Well, with the rise of radical Christianity since the Eighties, I doubt we’ll see either a Muslim or atheist get anywhere close to the Presidency any time soon.

They could name a dinner after that Jewish guy who ran recently …

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 1:38:39am

TYT interviewed people at a Trump rally asking if they had anything nice to say about Hillary Clinton for her birthday. The messages weren’t so nice:

Trump Supporter: Jesus Wants Trump, No Female Leaders!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 1:45:55am

re: #168 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing to bear in mind: Between now and 2020, the GOP will convince themselves that Trump didn’t lose because of what he ran on, he lost because of who he was. In 4 years, they’ll find somebody who will be out there blowing the same dog whistles, saying the same shit, but smart enough not to say things like “Grab’em by the pussy” where a hot mic is to be found.

and it would help if this person had some sort of record of public service and not just one of self-service

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 1:58:27am

A South Korean man flown to the U.S. 37 years ago and adopted by an American couple at age 3 has been ordered deported back to a country that is completely alien to him.
“It is heartbreaking news,” said Dae Joong (DJ) Yoon, executive director of the National Korean American Service & Education Consortium, who had been in contact with Adam Crapser.

Crapser remains confined in an immigration detention center in Tacoma, Washington, pending his deportation.

Crapser waived an appeal during the hearing Monday because he is desperate to get out of detention, his Seattle attorney, Lori Walls, told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

“I’m sure he doesn’t have any idea what he can do in Korea,” Yoon said in a phone interview from his group’s offices in Annandale, Va.

Crapser’s plight mirrors those of thousands of others. Yoon’s group says an estimated 35,000 intercountry adoptees lack U. S. citizenship. It is backing legislation in Congress to address that.

wtop.com

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Targetpractice Oct 28, 2016 • 2:08:34am

re: #208 Timothy Watson

wtop.com

Crapser’s plight mirrors those of thousands of others. Yoon’s group says an estimated 35,000 intercountry adoptees lack U. S. citizenship. It is backing legislation in Congress to address that.

Yeah, good luck with that.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 2:11:09am

Photo shows FAA-mandated “arrestor bed” at LaGuardia Airport that stopped Mike Pence’s plane when it skid off runway https://t.co/tYkfZ7h8dw pic.twitter.com/4prUGTOrOA

— ABC News (@ABC) October 28, 2016

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Regulations save lives. https://t.co/Ja2Pk2XHLZ

— Matt Ortega (@MattOrtega) October 28, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 2:11:45am

I dun put mah thinkin’ cap on.

A lot of people have speculated that Trump just owes Russians money and that’s why he’s so reluctant to condemn Putin, that’s not it.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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But the real reason I think it’s horrible dirt and not debt is that Trump actually acts as if he’s terrified of Putin. It’s unnatural.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Think about it, this is a guy who’s not afraid to go to war with his own political party, but acts like angering Putin carries REAL risk.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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And that fact alone should absolutely terrify the US strategic intelligence community.

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 2:19:24am

I’m really hating Glenda right now…

Woman wins $1M jackpot after buying scratch-off ticket to try to teach her husband lesson about gambling too much. https://t.co/MLwCyfsG2h pic.twitter.com/uvayv9yVeL

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Targetpractice Oct 28, 2016 • 2:20:18am

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

I dun put mah thinkin’ cap on.

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Would it really surprise me that Putin has Trump’s nuts in a vice? Nah, not really.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 2:23:43am

re: #212 FormerDirtDart

I won $51 last week …

The proprietor of the General Store here says he’s never seen anyone in town win as much in the state Lotto as I have. (I am actually ahead on winnings, though I am sure the grinding certainty of statistics will eventually reverse that. Last year I won several thousand dollars in the state lottery.)

While my wife does not encourage me to buy lottery tickets, she is not discouraging me either, as long as the win/loss ratio stays in the plus column.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 2:25:06am

re: #214 Anymouse

I won $51 last week …

The proprietor of the General Store here says he’s never seen anyone in town win as much in the state Lotto as I have. (I am actually ahead on winnings, though I am sure the grinding certainty of statistics will eventually reverse that. Last year I won several thousand dollars in the state lottery.)

While my wife does not encourage me to buy lottery tickets, she is not discouraging me either, as long as the win/loss ratio stays in the plus column.

I am now envious of both you and Glenda.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 2:26:27am

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

I dun put mah thinkin’ cap on.

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Meanwhile, Trump is perfectly willing to demand payment from Mexico for a wall that will never be built, and from our allies for the protection we provide under a unilateral treaty.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 2:28:07am

re: #214 Anymouse

I’m spending less on lottery tickets weekly than I did on cigarettes when I smoked.
And, that doesn’t include the massive increase in prices since I quit smoking 11 and a half years ago.
So, in that way I’m way ahead…
LOL

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 2:31:54am

re: #215 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I am now envious of both you and Glenda.

You can stand next to me here in my village general store and bask in my good luck. /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 2:35:37am

re: #212 FormerDirtDart

I’m really hating Glenda right now…

She needs to put that money somewhere where husband cannot gamble it all away…

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 2:40:02am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

She needs to put that money somewhere where husband cannot gamble it all away…

Mother-in-law in the fourth. /s

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 2:54:48am

The day Doctor Who changed face – and transformed TV for ever https://t.co/Xur96qD5ZR

— The Guardian (@guardian) October 28, 2016

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“Fifty years ago tomorrow, at 6:13pm, a unique moment in television history took place. A camera closed in on the face of an actor lying motionless on the floor. The image blurred, faded to white, then came back into focus, revealing that for the very first time, Doctor Who had changed his face…”

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 2:57:31am

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

I dun put mah thinkin’ cap on.

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I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Putin has some serious dirt on Trump, and by “serious dirt”, I mean of the video variety.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 3:01:15am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Putin has some serious dirt on Trump, and by “serious dirt”, I mean of the video variety.

not a puppet…not a puppet…

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 3:02:57am

So, a new video dropped from Alice Francis. In a spoiler tag because the editing is sorta freaky and might be seizure-inducing to those susceptible to it.

Click to Reveal

Alice Francis - Dear Love (official Video)

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 3:04:44am

re: #224 Dr Lizardo

So, a new video dropped from Alice Francis.

[Embedded content]

Video

Wow. Had to scroll the video up, the jerky motion in the video triggered an aura. If I suddenly drop silent here, well, I’ve survived seizures before… .

On the other hand, I do like the song.

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 3:07:16am

re: #225 Anymouse

Wow. Had to scroll the video up, the jerky motion in the video triggered an aura. If I suddenly drop silent here, well, I’ve survived seizures before… .

On the other hand, I do like the song.

I put it in a spoiler tag with a warning that the editing is sorta freaky.

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 3:08:43am

So, for your Friday, here’s a gloriously bad film - one of three that pretty much ended Irwin Allen’s career. The Swarm.

(Michael Caine in The Swarm 1978 = Full Movie Horror Thriller Insect Bee Attack Moviei)

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Jayleia Oct 28, 2016 • 3:18:47am

re: #213 Targetpractice

I would be shocked if he did NOT have dirt on DT, and just thinking about what I think it probably is is enough to make me queasy.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 3:21:11am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

I put it in a spoiler tag with a warning that the editing is sorta freaky.

How do you do spoiler tags here (click to reveal VS private)?

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 3:22:30am

re: #229 Anymouse

How do you do spoiler tags here (click to reveal VS private)?

Like this:

Click to Reveal

content

except no spaces between the brackets and the content.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 3:22:43am

re: #228 Jayleia

I would be shocked if he did NOT have dirt on DT, and just thinking about what I think it probably is is enough to make me queasy.

Lots of people have dirt on DT, but Putin is in a position that he does not have to fear DT’s legal retribution or harrassment

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freetoken Oct 28, 2016 • 3:23:37am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

No slash before the opening “spoiler”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 3:23:46am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

Like this:

[/spoiler] content [/spoiler]

except no spaces between the brackets and the content.

and no slash before the first spoiler

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 3:24:18am

Yeah, what freetoken said

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 3:24:39am

re: #232 freetoken

No slash before the opening “spoiler”.

Yes, that’s right. No slash before the first “spoiler” in the brackets.

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Jayleia Oct 28, 2016 • 3:26:09am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But so far he’s been pretty much “eh, whatevah, Wahl gets ten feet highah” to whatever he’s been accused of, whatever that Putin has on Trump is something that actually DOES get Trump’s attention.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 3:27:54am

re: #236 Jayleia

But so far he’s been pretty much “eh, whatevah, Wahl gets ten feet highah” to whatever he’s been accused of, whatever that Putin has on Trump is something that actually DOES get Trump’s attention.

Because he knows he can get his lawyers to lean heavily on anyone who tries to call him out for his transgressions…except Putin.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 3:31:47am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

Like this:

[Embedded content]

except no spaces between the brackets and the content.

Nothing showed up except the word “content.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 3:32:51am

re: #238 Anymouse

Nothing showed up except the word “content.”

[ spoiler ] stuff goes here [ /spoiler ]

no spaces inside the [ ]

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 3:34:22am

re: #239 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

[ spoiler ] stuff goes here [ /spoiler ]

A bunch of people weighed in to educate me on that.

Click to Reveal

Thanks, folks!

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 3:35:07am

re: #238 Anymouse

Nothing showed up except the word “content.”

LOL I’m not very good at giving computer instructions. Sorry about that :p

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 3:37:20am

Can’t make it up: Trump’s son in law publishes article by Kremlin mouthpiece suggesting Moscow may want Alaska back https://t.co/YERkFB2jmf

— Andrew S. Weiss (@andrewsweiss) October 26, 2016

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Trump will make a deal. It’ll be a great deal. The best ever. Later generations will call it “Trump’s Folly” and laugh non-ironically https://t.co/M7KM1rHkbL

— wheat-dogg (@liguy743) October 28, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 3:38:42am

re: #242 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Can’t make it up: Trump’s son in law publishes article by Kremlin mouthpiece suggesting Moscow may want Alaska back

Wow, then Sarah will be able to see Russia just by looking at her living room!!!

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 3:43:25am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wow, then Sarah will be able to see Russia just by looking at her living room!!!

And yet still duck across the border to Yukon for socialised medicine (as she admitted she did on FOX News Channel back in 2012).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 3:44:36am

re: #244 Anymouse

And yet still duck across the border to Yukon for socialised medicine (as she admitted she did on FOX News Channel back in 2012).

“In Russia, medicine socialize you!”

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 3:49:28am

@daveweigel of course, he is saying she was lying bc he thought her family was in Thailand. what is racist about that?

— Jake Stimpy (@jake_stimpy) October 28, 2016

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This is literally the best argument conservatives can come up with, that Kirk honestly though Tammy was flagrantly lying about her family’s history because of where she was born and how she looks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 3:49:51am

LOL

Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen: viral hit sets record in US pop charts https://t.co/hlMHReHu8h

— Guardian World (@guardianworld) October 28, 2016

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This silly song has inspired a host of parodies and jokes here in the Asian world. For example,

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 3:52:44am

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

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This is literally the best argument conservatives can come up with, that Kirk honestly though Tammy was flagrantly lying about her family’s history because of where she was born and how she looks.

It never occurs to these blockheads that a white American might marry a non-white person from another country, despite plenty of evidence that has happened, as in “war brides.”

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 3:54:41am

re: #247 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

LOL

[Embedded content]

This silly song has inspired a host of parodies and jokes here in the Asian world. For example,

[Embedded content]

Perhaps it is on the charts in the UK. Billboard does not have it on the Hot 100 in the USA.

billboard.com

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 3:58:36am

Nope. Not on the Billboard Chart in the UK either.

The UK’s Top 100 biggest songs of the week is compiled by the Official Charts Company, based on sales of downloads, CDs, vinyl and audio streams.

YouTube does not fit that definition.

officialcharts.com

Maybe Billboard in Japan?

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 4:00:11am

You know, having lived here for 15 years, I do like the Czech people. However, they really do seem to be enchanted by some forms of woowoo, particularly, homeopathy woowoo.

*sigh*

The number of homeopathics sold in the Czech Republic rose by over 50 percent during the past 15 years, which shows that the number of Czechs ready to fight flu with other drugs than Paracetamol or Ibuprofen is steeply rising, daily Mlada fronta Dnes (MfD) writes yesterday.
“The patients most frequently use homeopathics against the problems associated with common viral diseases,” the paper quotes Ales Krebs, deputy chairman of the Czech Pharmacy Chamber, as saying.
Both doctors and chemists frown upon the news since the science has never proven any curative effect of homeopathic preparations.
According to the patient information leaflets enclosed in the homeopathics treating flu such as the well-known Oscillococcinum, these preparations contain sugar and extremely low quantity of duck entrails.

Stepan Svacina, chairman of the Czech Medical Society, says: “The doctor can use a placebo in a psychological therapy. It does not matter whether this may be a homeopathic preparation or jumping on one leg.”
“Advocates of homeopathy often argue with doctors’ conspiracy with pharmaceutical makers, but they themselves certainly do not offer their methods for free as a sort of philanthropy,” a doctor is quoted as saying.
The cost of entry check-ups in homeopathic centres mostly ranges between 100 to 3,000 crowns. The patient pays another 800-1,000 crowns for each next examination, MfD writes.

1 USD is about 25 Kč.

praguemonitor.com

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Barefoot Grin Oct 28, 2016 • 4:04:25am

re: #160 EPR-radar

Once you’ve reached North Corel you can go south to the edge of the desert and learn aqualung from the harpy. That’s just as strong as beta, doesn’t need any backtracking, and is a less dangerous fight because the harpy is weak.

The crow flies at midnight.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 4:09:07am

Someone over at Huffington Post commented on an article about Donald Trump, asking (as an atheist because he didn’t know about these sorts of things) if Mr. Trump would qualify as the Antichrist.

Another person who said she was a Christian said, “Nope. He’s losing.”

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Barefoot Grin Oct 28, 2016 • 4:17:58am

When I lived in Virginia a few people talked about how lucky I was to be in a place where I could buy Yuengling beer. I found it weak and tasteless. Turns out I was right.

huffingtonpost.com

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 4:29:39am

Dear Tina, I hope you enjoy your visit from the @SecretService. pic.twitter.com/M3JMkALooG

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 4:31:54am

Um, no, it isn’t.

@tinajoci @ItsTonyNow she said “no offense”. that means she can’t get in trouble. it’s fucked up, but that is the law.

— he’ll yeah (@bennnnnewsome) October 28, 2016

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 4:36:53am

Dunno if mentioned above. Fred Hiatt has a good piece in WaPo convincingly arguing that Clinton would have probably won against any R this season.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 4:38:25am

re: #256 goddamnedfrank

Without checking context this seems like sarcasm, though I don’t doubt that there are stupid wingnuts who would write something like this.

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Tigger2 Oct 28, 2016 • 4:41:49am

re: #258 Nyet

Without checking context this seems like sarcasm, though I don’t doubt that there are stupid wingnuts who would write something like this.

I think it was sarcasm I looked at his page I don’t think he’s a wingnut.

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BigPapa Oct 28, 2016 • 4:43:48am

Clinton is a strong candidate that could beat any of them. Hiatt’s article is pretty reasonable. One has to wonder how much of Clinton’s negatives are driven by the massive campaign of GOP propaganda spanning decades.

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 4:48:46am

Can’t wait to see what the first tweet out of Team @MarkKirk will be today. What an asshole.

Hey @MarkKirk - There is no place for people like you in the US Government. You should be ashamed of yourself.

— Nasty Hombre (@franklinftw) October 28, 2016

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Tigger2 Oct 28, 2016 • 5:03:56am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 5:09:16am

re: #256 goddamnedfrank

No offense, but somebody needs to assassinate Hillary Clinton and Obama. They’re cheaters have jeopardized our country w/ refugees(ISIS)!

That is right up there with “I’m not racist/sexist/crazy, but…”

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 5:16:46am

Chelsea Clinton emerges as alarmed about “Clinton Inc” but naive about how much it subsidized her lifestyle: https://t.co/UUsCqO3S1K

— Michael Barbaro (@mikiebarb) October 28, 2016

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“Her comments about her father’s aides were revealed in the thousands of emails obtained by hackers and released by WikiLeaks”

Obtained 🤔 https://t.co/jsOeZ1tzMN

— Nasty Hombre (@franklinftw) October 28, 2016

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 5:27:41am

Impossible to separate Trump, Deplorables, & Establishment. Symbiotic/parasitic/enabling relationship respectively @jmproffitt @Stonekettle

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 28, 2016

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Weaselone Oct 28, 2016 • 5:28:13am

Quick question.

I have always thought that seizing control of a US military base and joy riding around it in an M1A1 would be interesting. Naturally, I never tried to do so as I assumed it would be illegal and I’m not a grade A anti-american nutcase. Now that I know it is totally not illegal to seize control of a federal facility and trash it while riding around in stolen government vehicles, I’m curious as to how one goes about making this happen.

Is it sufficient just to present my white self to the first soldier I see, identify as patriotic sovereign citizen and demand they vacate the base after getting the tank ready for me, or do I need to do the whole co-splay thing and dress up in camo, carry around an AK47 knockoff, and wear a grubby cap with a 2nd amendment meme on it?

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Jayleia Oct 28, 2016 • 5:34:30am

re: #266 Weaselone

Pretty sure the cosplay is required. Also, make sure you are very pale, to avoid any confusion, wait until just after winter when you haven’t been outside for months, but the weather is nice enough you can show enough skin so they know you’re white…but not so much skin that they think its weird.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 5:35:22am

The U.S. economy grew at a 2.9% rate in the third quarter, the fastest in two years. https://t.co/A9OlUXl3FI

— CNNMoney (@CNNMoney) October 28, 2016

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This is terrible news for Trump. Nate’s Polls Plus model will swing heavily towards Clinton today.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 5:35:38am

The U.S. economy grew at a 2.9% rate in the third quarter, the fastest in two years. https://t.co/A9OlUXl3FI

— CNNMoney (@CNNMoney) October 28, 2016

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Good news for America, is bad news for Trump and the GOP. https://t.co/yYMs1NLDdX

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) October 28, 2016

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 5:36:12am

re: #268 goddamnedfrank

Bastard!!!!

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 5:40:15am

re: #268 goddamnedfrank

The U.S. economy grew at a 2.9% rate in the third quarter, the fastest in two years. https://t.co/A9OlUXl3FI

— CNNMoney (@CNNMoney) October 28, 2016

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OBAMA’S FAULT!!!

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 5:40:19am

I’m guessing Martha Vineyards likes her wine.

@goddamnedfrank U have no idea what actually happened. Its dummies like U low informed that endangers ALL Americans Freedoms! pic.twitter.com/a0awvJfXxV

— Martha Vineyards (@MarthaVineyard4) October 28, 2016

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 5:44:11am

re: #272 goddamnedfrank

I’m guessing Martha Vineyards likes her wine.

[Embedded content]

Bureau of Land Management was founded in 1946. Prior to that, it was the Grazing Service and the General Land Office.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 5:46:32am

Anyone know how the economy did in the third quarter?

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Barefoot Grin Oct 28, 2016 • 5:46:53am

re: #274 Dr. Matt

Anyone know how the economy did in the third quarter?

Tanked upwards.

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Targetpractice Oct 28, 2016 • 5:47:44am

re: #264 Franklin

[Embedded content]

“Obtained” in the same way that my smashing in your window and making off with your private files would mean I “obtained” them.

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 5:47:50am

re: #275 Barefoot Grin

Tanked upwards.

Led by the ammo, pemmican, and heirloom seed markets.

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Weaselone Oct 28, 2016 • 5:48:45am

re: #273 Timothy Watson

Not to mention that having grazing rights, doesn’t give you the right to burn everythingin order to cover up poaching.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 5:50:28am

re: #274 Dr. Matt

Anyone know how the economy did in the third quarter?

Trump: Worst economy ever. Worse than even during the Depression. Cities aflame and inner cities are rioting over the deplorable conditions and lack of jobs approaching 50%.
Natl Review: It could have been better if only we slashed taxes for the top tax bracket by 20% to unleash the economic powerhouse of the untapped wealth being sapped by high taxes.
Speaker Ryan: The news would have been even better had tax rates dropped per our contract on America rehash.

Progressives/Liberals: The economy would have done better had government been allowed to spend more money on infrastructure to improve efficiencies and reduce costs on transit/traffic/congestion/reduced commuter times, etc.

My take: Damned good in spite of ongoing GOP obstructionism.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 5:52:19am

re: #277 Decatur Deb

Led by the ammo, pemmican, and heirloom seed markets.

AND GOLD!!! IT’S YOOOOGE! BIG LEAGUE!

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 5:52:29am

Department of Defense paid $57 million for Epi-Pens, up from $9 million in 2008. The increase is primarily due to Mylan Pharmaceutical’s 600% increase. Half that spending was at retail pharmacies (where people using CHAMPUS/Tricare military insurance would normally fill a prescription). That is three times higher than the discount rate.

The DOD gave the most comprehensive information about the cost of Epi-Pens. For most government agencies, the prices paid for drugs are considered classified information.

Reuters estimated there was a $54 million difference between the price at civilian pharmacies and military sickbays and clinics.

Mylan is offering a “discount” on Epi-Pens which is only 300% higher than the price last year, but half of what the retail price is now.

The drugmaker also agreed to pay $465 million to settle questions over whether the Medicaid program for the poor overpaid because EpiPens were classified as a generic treatment, a category that allows manufacturers to give smaller rebates to government agencies.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 5:52:58am

Upper Level Of George Washington Bridge Shut Down Due To Person On NJ Tower https://t.co/XMKelWFwVg

— 1010 WINS (@1010WINS) October 28, 2016

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Day after protesters shut down traffic with sitin on the upper deck, someone managed to climb up NJ Tower of GWB: https://t.co/2h6JMd6W24

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 28, 2016

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That indicates a failure of the security at the bridge; there’s supposed to be guards at both towers to prevent such a thing. That’s on the PAPD and the Port Authority.

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 5:53:20am

re: #279 lawhawk

Trump: Worst economy ever. Worse than even during the Depression. Cities aflame and inner cities are rioting over the deplorable conditions and lack of jobs approaching 50%.
Natl Review: It could have been better if only we slashed taxes for the top tax bracket by 20% to unleash the economic powerhouse of the untapped wealth being sapped by high taxes.
Speaker Ryan: The news would have been even better had tax rates dropped per our contract on America rehash.

Progressives/Liberals: The economy would have done better had government been allowed to spend more money on infrastructure to improve efficiencies and reduce costs on transit/traffic/congestion/reduced commuter times, etc.

My take: Damned good in spite of ongoing GOP obstructionism.

Young Black Male: “Does for-profit prison labor count as employment?”

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 5:53:59am

re: #279 lawhawk

My take: Damned good in spite of ongoing GOP obstructionism.

My take: If Mitt Romney was POTUS, wingnuts would be carving his face on Mount Rushmore.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 5:54:26am

Epi-Pen article (which I failed to provide a link for above):
huffingtonpost.com

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 5:55:09am

re: #282 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

That indicates a failure of the security at the bridge; there’s supposed to be guards at both towers to prevent such a thing. That’s on the PAPD and the Port Authority.

If it’s Gov Christie, he just told the guards to stand down.

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 5:55:10am

re: #284 Dr. Matt

My take: If Mitt Romney was POTUS, wingnuts would be carving his face on Mount Rushmore.

You know, I really would like to see President Obama on Mt. Rushmore. Can you imagine the headsplosions?

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Targetpractice Oct 28, 2016 • 5:55:59am

re: #282 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

That indicates a failure of the security at the bridge; there’s supposed to be guards at both towers to prevent such a thing. That’s on the PAPD and the Port Authority.

Perhaps it’s Gov. Christie out to put down a few road cones…

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 5:57:50am

While EpiPen spending represents a fraction of a percent of the Defense Department’s $49 billion annual healthcare budget, the data illustrates the premium it was paying for EpiPens at retail outlets.

“Lawmakers would not be terribly happy to hear that DoD is paying more at retail,” said Brian Bruen, a drug economics researcher at George Washington University’s Milken Institute School of Public Health.

The Defense Department and Department of Veterans Affairs, typically pay among the lowest drug prices in the country because of discounts mandated by law, as well as rebates negotiated with drugmakers, Bruen said.

Indeed, the Pentagon has paid $173 for an EpiPen two-pack filled through mail order and $169 at military facilities in fiscal year 2016.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 5:58:16am

re: #272 goddamnedfrank

I’m guessing Martha Vineyards likes her wine.

Twitter memes are not a means to discuss topics that require a great deal of background information.

For example, that the fires the Hammonds set endangered federal officials or that the Terrorism Act under which their sentence was extended was passed under Bush. Law and Order is Law and Order, even when it is employed against white ranchers and not urban thugs.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 5:58:24am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

You know, I really would like to see President Obama on Mt. Rushmore. Can you imagine the headsplosions?

If was I was independently filthy rich, I would flip the bill.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 5:59:15am

re: #273 Timothy Watson

Bureau of Land Management was founded in 1946. Prior to that, it was the Grazing Service and the General Land Office.

Also the Hammonds were convicted on two counts of arson each, then signed a plea deal to avoid other charges, waiving their rights to appeal. They knew that prosecutors were going to request five year sentences when they signed that deal. A judge violated the law giving them an illegally short sentence, which the government appealed and won.

Also, the fires they set were dangerous as fuck, one set to cover up evidence of their illegal poaching and the other endangered federal firefighters.

The 2001 Hardie-Hammond fire began, according to Probation Officer Robb, when hunters in the area witnessed the Hammonds illegally slaughter a herd of deer.[19] Less than two hours later, a fire erupted and forced the hunters to leave the area, allegedly also to conceal evidence of the illegal killing of the deer.[20] Later, Steven’s nephew Dusty Hammond testified that his uncle told him to start lighting matches and “light the whole countryside on fire.” Dusty also testified that he was “almost burned up in the fire” and had to flee for his life.[16][21] The Hammonds have claimed they started the fire to stop invasive plants from growing onto their grazing fields.[22]

The 2006 Krumbo Butte fire started out as a wildfire, but several illegal backburns were set by the Hammonds with the intent to protect their winter feed. The backfires were set under the cover of night without warning the firefighting camp that was known to be on the slopes above.[20][23] According to the indictment, the fires threatened to trap four BLM firefighters, one of whom later confronted Dwight Hammond at the fire scene after he had moved his crews to avoid the threat.[20][21] Two days later, according to federal prosecutors, Steven Hammond threatened to frame a BLM employee with arson if he didn’t stop the investigation.[22]

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 5:59:27am

re: #291 Dr. Matt

If was I was independently filthy rich, I would flip the bill.

Same here.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 5:59:35am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Twitter memes are not a means to discuss topics that require a great deal of background information.

For example, that the fires the Hammonds set endangered federal officials or that the Terrorism Act under which their sentence was extended was passed under Bush. Law and Order is Law and Order, even when it is employed against white ranchers and not urban thugs.

What’s the difference between “urban thugs” and “white ranchers?” (Never mind, I can figure that out.)

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 6:00:31am

re: #294 Anymouse

What’s the difference between “urban thugs” and “white ranchers?” (Never mind, I can figure that out.)

Dress code.

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Barefoot Grin Oct 28, 2016 • 6:01:05am

re: #291 Dr. Matt

If was I was independently filthy rich, I would flip the bill.

Or blast the current residents off the face of Stone Mountain, GA and replace with Pres. Obama.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 6:01:46am

re: #295 Decatur Deb

Dress code.

and which tattoos they sport

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 6:01:56am

re: #296 Barefoot Grin

Or blast the current residents off the face of Stone Mountain, GA and replace with Pres. Obama.

Imagine the supporters of the Dixie Swastika flipping out over that… .

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 6:02:39am

Google Chrome users, have all your saved passwords to website logins been deleted? On both of my machines, I’ve had to re-enter and re—save all my login passwords.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 6:03:12am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and which tattoos they sport

or type of hat.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 6:04:01am

See, kids, a peaceful black protestor is called a thug and the collective noun for a group of violent armed white men is called a militia.

— OhNoSheTwitnt (@OhNoSheTwitnt) October 28, 2016

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Indeed.

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b.d. Oct 28, 2016 • 6:04:41am

re: #268 goddamnedfrank

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This is terrible news for Trump. Nate’s Polls Plus model will swing heavily towards Clinton today.

FAKE NUMBERS!!!

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 6:05:13am

re: #299 Dr. Matt

Possible due to an update? A bug? Not sure. I haven’t had that issue before. I also use 1Password to manage my passwords (and to create/remember strong passwords across the board).

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 6:06:31am

Photo of person on top of the George Washington Bridge tower, he’s now in custody. pic.twitter.com/kDDSg6P59P

— New York City Alerts (@NYCityAlerts) October 28, 2016

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Sheesh. Glad they got the guy in custody. I’m wondering how he bypassed whatever security is supposed to be in place, including fencing, security guards, and sensors.

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Anymouse Oct 28, 2016 • 6:08:16am

Teenager in Surprise, Arizona arrested for a prank which clogged Emergency 911 line there.

huffingtonpost.com

He has many followers on Twitter. He created a link which forced (if a person clicked on it) followers’ phones to call 911. The programme also did not allow the phone to hang up. The Surprise 911 line was immediately clogged.

He claims the prank was harmless.

huffingtonpost.com

Betcha the libertarian dudebros at Twitter don’t ban him.

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 6:15:52am

Wow! If that persons intent was to jump, I hope he gets the help he needs. And someone needs to buy the guys/gals that helped talk him off the ledge a drink of their choice. This could have ended up a lot different very easily.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 6:17:06am

pandering -d(ə-)riŋ\
verb
: to act as a pander; especially : to provide gratification for others’ desires pic.twitter.com/VtUx5xT9t6

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) October 28, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 6:17:46am

re: #305 Anymouse

huffingtonpost.com

Betcha the libertarian dudebros at Twitter don’t ban him.

Betcha Putin offers him a job…

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 6:19:10am

Sheesh…in my own damn state?

Hearing of signs at polling locations in MA asking for photo ID. If you see one, call Secretary of State’s Office at[no phone numbers allowed] #mapoli

— Nasty Hombre (@franklinftw) October 28, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 6:25:20am

Cool story, Steve.

@mollywollydoodl @joanwalsh @Deadspin I was actually considering voting Duckworth until this. So sick of the race card.

— Steve Flesher (@SflesherC4P) October 28, 2016

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 6:27:01am

re: #268 goddamnedfrank

THANKS, OBAMA!
OH WAIT…

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 6:27:15am

re: #302 b.d.

FAKE NUMBERS!!!

538 has Hillary’s percentages down slightly, and Arizona, Iowa and Ohio back in Drumpf’s column. But she’s still at about 80%.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 6:29:21am

re: #310 goddamnedfrank

Cool story, Steve.

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The deplorable with a twitter photo of Trump and Palin “was actually considering voting Duckworth” FFS.

@mollywollydoodl @joanwalsh @Deadspin I was actually considering voting Duckworth until this. So sick of the race card.

— Steve Flesher (@SflesherC4P) October 28, 2016

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This is what a low-information voter looks like. If you see him in public, make sure you have a firm grasp on your children and belongings. https://t.co/xqTG4aF1Pb

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) October 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 6:31:05am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

The deplorable with a twitter photo of Trump and Palin “was actually considering voting Duckworth” FFS.

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Gosh, how’d we ever lose this guy?

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 6:31:32am

re: #310 goddamnedfrank

Cool story, Steve.

“I’m so sick of the race card, I’m going to vote for the guy who played it.”

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 6:31:41am

From September:

Kirk site falsely calls senator ‘veteran’ of Iraq war @CNNPolitics https://t.co/ULymY6vNYC

— Timothy Watson (@timothy_watson) October 28, 2016

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 6:33:10am

re: #316 Timothy Watson

From September:

But remember, no one ever uses “vet” without meaning it.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 6:33:53am

“…The ubiquitous social network not only allows advertisers to target users by their interests or background, it also gives advertisers the ability to exclude specific groups it calls “Ethnic Affinities.” Ads that exclude people based on race, gender and other sensitive factors are prohibited by federal law in housing and employment…”

Facebook’s ad targeting system allows buyers to exclude people from seeing ads by race, which could be illegal. https://t.co/EuIsKVh1Id pic.twitter.com/kCfSOENHBO

— ProPublica (@ProPublica) October 28, 2016

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“…The ad we purchased was targeted to Facebook members who were house hunting and excluded anyone with an “affinity” for African-American, Asian-American or Hispanic people. (Here’s the ad itself.)…”

”..When we showed Facebook’s racial exclusion options to a prominent civil rights lawyer John Relman, he gasped and said, “This is horrifying. This is massively illegal. This is about as blatant a violation of the federal Fair Housing Act as one can find.”

“…The Fair Housing Act of 1968 makes it illegal “to make, print, or publish, or cause to be made, printed, or published any notice, statement, or advertisement, with respect to the sale or rental of a dwelling that indicates any preference, limitation, or discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin.” Violators can face tens of thousands of dollars in fines…”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 6:37:20am

re: #318 FormerDirtDart

“…The ubiquitous social network not only allows advertisers to target users by their interests or background, it also gives advertisers the ability to exclude specific groups it calls “Ethnic Affinities.” Ads that exclude people based on race, gender and other sensitive factors are prohibited by federal law in housing and employment…”

View image on Twitter

This is quite the gray area here, so to speak, one wants to target one’s advertising. But this is different than distributing flyers (which can be highly selective as to who receives them) or purchasing ads on broadcast media (which are not selective in regards to who hears them)

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GlutenFreeJesus Oct 28, 2016 • 6:40:31am

Anyone else being bombarded on FB with the Jay Wells “Obamacare victim” article by none other than Todd Starnes?

foxnews.com

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 6:41:09am

re: #318 FormerDirtDart

I have colleagues that use facebook advertising to target minority populations for their research studies that focus on minorities and health disparities. So, yes, they exclude Whites and non-Hispanics.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 6:41:19am

Steve Flesher is trying to justify his idiocy.

@liguy743 @mollywollydoodl @joanwalsh @Deadspin He didn’t play it. Saying ones parents are from Thailand was a half mistake. That’s all.

— Steve Flesher (@SflesherC4P) October 28, 2016

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HappyWarrior Oct 28, 2016 • 6:41:23am

re: #315 Belafon

“I’m so sick of the race card, I’m going to vote for the guy who played it.”

Yeah makes total sense. //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 6:42:18am

re: #320 GlutenFreeJesus

Anyone else bring being bombarded on FB with the Jay Wells “Obamacare victim” article by none other than Todd Starnes?

foxnews.com

If we just abolish ACA, rates will automatically return to pre-ACA levels, right?

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HappyWarrior Oct 28, 2016 • 6:42:59am

re: #322 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Steve Flesher is trying to justify his idiocy.

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It’s common knowledge that her father’s family go back to the Revolution. The most pathetic thing of all though? Rep Duckworth was actually making a great point about how she understands what sacrifices our military make since she’s a vet herself, a daughter of one, and descended from people who have been fighting for this country since its founding and why we shouldn’t rush to war.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 6:44:12am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we just abolish ACA, rates will automatically return to pre-ACA levels, right?

It will reset the timeline, and Romney will be president, who will ask Congress to pass Romneycare, which would be so much totally better!

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 6:46:10am

Assumes facts not in evidence, namely that @realdonaldtrump has liquid assets to make available to spend on campaign @Phil_Mattingly

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 28, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Oct 28, 2016 • 6:46:13am

re: #322 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Steve Flesher is trying to justify his idiocy.

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“half mistake”
Which half?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 6:48:07am

re: #328 Barefoot Grin

“half mistake”
Which half?

It’s like being half pregnant.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 6:48:45am

re: #321 Dr. Matt

I have colleagues that use facebook advertising to target minority populations for their research studies that focus on minorities and health disparities. So, yes, they exclude White and non-Hispanics.

Well, I would be surprised if medical research studies were covered by the Fair Housing Act

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jeffreyw Oct 28, 2016 • 6:50:42am

Imgur

Good morning!

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 6:53:10am

re: #330 FormerDirtDart

Well, I would be surprised if medical research studies were covered by the Fair Housing Act

Exactly. I understand people wanting to limit their marketing audience for legit reasons.

But there is no difference between excluding minorities in real estate advertising on Facebook and printing advertisements and only handing them out to white suburbanites outside a Whole Foods.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 6:53:58am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we just abolish ACA, rates will automatically return to pre-ACA levels, right?

Return to the pre-ACA levels of uninsureds (meaning about 20 million more people would be uninsured). Premium hikes would continue as fast or faster than before because ACA imposed the beginnings of transparency on health care costs.

So yeah, magical thinking.

Yesterday, the Daily News ran an op-ed by Dr. Marc Siegel who complained about the ACA and insurance coverage under the ACA. Problem was his complaint was mostly about insurance generally - that it’s cumbersome, added millions of people to insurance coverage without having enough doctors and health care practictioners available to handle the influx of people seeking care, etc.

The crux of the argument is that insuring more people was somehow bad, or that people were trying to play catch-up on their personal health because they’d gone years without seeing doctors.

If anything, it’s another strike against having insurance companies providing health care insurance.

Another strike on top of that? Aetna topped quarterly profits and estimates. They made $600 million in the quarter, complaining about their ACA line of business, and are reducing their exposure to ACA because their profits are taking a hit from the ACA line of business. It shows that health care insurance should be a nonprofit enterprise - because the money should be going into providing coverage, not profits, IMO.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 6:54:42am

OK, Steve Flesher may be missing the point, but at least he’s not a rabid knuckle-dragging GOP-bot. I’m a-gonna leave him alone.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 6:55:03am

Lies, LIES, LIES, LIES…

U.S. economy grew at 2.9% rate in third quarter, fastest growth in two years @CNNMoney

— Ivan Watson (@IvanCNN) October 28, 2016

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 6:55:07am

re: #332 Franklin

Exactly. I understand people wanting to limit their marketing audience for legit reasons.

But there is no difference between excluding minorities in real estate advertising on Facebook and printing advertisements and only handing them out to white suburbanites outside a Whole Foods.

~~There’s no difference between excluding minorities in real estate advertising on Facebook and paying Whole Foods to give out advertisements to only the white customers.~~

On second thought, that’s a stupid distinction. Let’s just say that housing has been used as a form of segregation and requires extra scrutiny.

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 6:58:36am

Ha!

.@Drake & @TaylorSwift13 are rumored to be dating 😳:https://t.co/FAaNHYh59b pic.twitter.com/2oHxzDTs2b

— Highsnobiety (@highsnobiety) October 28, 2016

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Pros: Angry White people
Cons: Two shitty albums about breakups https://t.co/GlKoegYIMC

— 🎃👻Jason Voorhees👻 (@jteeDC) October 28, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:00:26am

Another bright light of the Right Wing. Dim Hoft naturally retweeted him.

Hillary is a democrat on social media running for President failing to break 1k RT’s 11 days before an election

Her campaign is imploding pic.twitter.com/RrnYANIdLa

— Jared Wyand 🇺🇸 (@JaredWyand) October 28, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 7:00:38am

Meanwhile the highly conservative IBD/TIPP poll that had Trump ahead +2 on the 23rd has moved one point towards Clinton each day since, putting her up 3 now.

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 7:03:47am

re: #337 Franklin

Looks like Taylor Swift will have a new album coming out shortly.

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b_sharp Oct 28, 2016 • 7:05:26am

re: #43 Anymouse

Sam Wang, keeping his eye on the election is quite different than Nate Silver:

election.princeton.edu

The turning of one or two state polls does not an election make. I am not interested in poll unskewing, I’ll leave that to Karl Rove. Professor Wang doesn’t unskew polls either.

Then there is Prof. Wang’s daily histogram:

election.princeton.edu

Which shows no path for Mr. Trump. None, not one.

I think that’s because Nate is a frequentist and Wang is a Bayesian.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 7:07:50am

“Shark Tank” star Barbara Corcoran says Donald Trump once made a comment about the size of her breasts https://t.co/KzRgQ7HQxJ pic.twitter.com/JEW1x5hf3B

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) October 28, 2016

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I’m shocked. Shocked that Trump would say such a thing.

She’s a self-made businesswoman who turned a $1,000 loan in to a multimillion dollar real estate business that she later sold for $66 million.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:09:08am

re: #342 lawhawk

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I’m shocked. Shocked that Trump would say such a thing.

She’s a self-made businesswoman who turned a $1,000 loan in to a multimillion dollar real estate business that she later sold for $66 million.

IOW, she’s done better at business than Trump.

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b_sharp Oct 28, 2016 • 7:13:27am

re: #339 goddamnedfrank

Meanwhile the highly conservative IBD/TIPP poll that had Trump ahead +2 on the 23rd has moved one point towards Clinton each day since, putting her up 3 now.

People give polls entirely too much attention and frankly, power over their emotions, than they should.

Letting a poll determine your emotions is giving in to external manipulation. Just look at how mushy the brains of Trumpites are.

BTW, no self respecting Zombie would even consider eating those Trump MixMaster made mush for brains morons.

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Patricia Kayden Oct 28, 2016 • 7:14:53am

re: #49 Anymouse

LOL! I’d watch that movie.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 7:16:11am

Instagram

Follow @9gag for more funny videos!
App📲👉 @9gagmobile 👈
#9gag #meancat #furbabies #evilcat #instacat

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 7:16:33am

That could be problematic for Yuengling. I really don’t see Trump supporters switching over from Bud/Miller/Old Milwaukee

Some Yuengling fans said they would no longer drink the beer after its owner said he backed Donald Trump https://t.co/OrgLC3VTO2 pic.twitter.com/h0l2kRcDUn

— The New York Times (@nytimes) October 28, 2016

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Oct 28, 2016 • 7:18:29am

re: #347 FormerDirtDart

That could be problematic for Yuengling. I really don’t see Trump supporters switching over from Bud/Miller/Old Milwaukee

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Yuengling is terrible anyway.

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 7:19:03am

re: #347 FormerDirtDart

That could be problematic for Yuengling. I really don’t see Trump supporters switching over from Bud/Miller/Old Milwaukee

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I quit Yeunglings, whose Black and Tan was good, several months ago after a lizard pointed out their anti-union BS. Guinness American Blonde is quite good.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 7:19:36am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

Had the arrestor system not been in place, the plane would have gone into Flushing Bay, and the outcome would have been far more serious for those on board. The Port Authority was among the agencies involved in creating the EMAS system, particularly after several planes have crashed after overrunning the runways at PA airports (JFK and LGA).

faa.gov

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b_sharp Oct 28, 2016 • 7:19:57am

re: #346 Dr. Matt

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Then the cat pretends it did nothing.

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b_sharp Oct 28, 2016 • 7:22:36am

Don’t you just love it when FireFox is running at or above 40% CPU utilization?

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 7:25:29am

Trump Is Ahead In Zero National Polls While The Media Continues ‘Close Race’ Narrative https://t.co/Rp9d818dYP

— shondi99 (@shondi99) October 28, 2016

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WROOOONG!! He’s winning yoooge in the Drudge poll! BIG LEAGUE! https://t.co/dei8l0592i

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) October 28, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:25:35am

re: #352 b_sharp

Don’t you just love it when FireFox is running at or above 40% CPU utilization?

And that’s why I hardly ever use it now. I switched to Opera (aka Chromium) and only run Firefox for some Chinese banking stuff. Their systems don’t recognize the current version of Opera for some reason.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 7:26:00am

Yuenglings is still a family business: I heard that one of the brothers has opened a brew pub in which he serves his specialty: bay leaf-flavored craft beer.

Which has a weird effect, some combination of the laurel oils, hops and alcohol totally numbs the tongue, making it hard to talk.

So to keep people entertained, he has employed clowns, jugglers and acrobats to entertain the guests who otherwise cannot entertain each other by conversing.

And he calls it the

…wait for it…

Yuengling Brother’s Bar Numb on Bay Leaves Circus!!!

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 7:26:13am

re: #351 b_sharp

Then the cat pretends it did nothing.

Cats are dicks.

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b.d. Oct 28, 2016 • 7:27:14am

re: #355 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yuenglings is still a family business: I heard that one of the brothers has opened a brew pub in which he serves his specialty: bay leaf-flavored craft beer.

Which has a weird effect, some combination of the laurel oils, hops and alcohol totally numbs the tongue, making it hard to talk.

So to keep people entertained, he has employed clowns, jugglers and acrobats to entertain the guests who otherwise cannot entertain each other by conversing.
And the call it the

…wait for it…

Yuengling Brother’s Bar Numb on Bay Leaves Circus!!!

Damn…..it’s awfully early in the day to start downdinging people………

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Oct 28, 2016 • 7:27:55am

re: #357 b.d.

Damn…..it’s awfully early in the day to start downdinging people………

That’s funny, I was just lamenting the lack of a mega-upding.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Oct 28, 2016 • 7:28:35am

re: #350 lawhawk

Had the arrestor system not been in place, the plane would have gone into Flushing Bay, and the outcome would have been far more serious for those on board. The Port Authority was among the agencies involved in creating the EMAS system, particularly after several planes have crashed after overrunning the runways at PA airports (JFK and LGA).

faa.gov

Doesn’t matter—the accident happened because LaGuardia is falling apart. Did you see how the runway crumbled? ONLY TRUMP CAN FIX!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 7:29:09am

re: #358 A wild WITHAK appeared!

That’s funny, I was just lamenting the lack of a mega-upding.

I had suggested that one should be able to give one big multi-upding per week or so…Charles, you listening?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:29:23am

re: #355 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sounds like a joke my uncle would have told. Wait, maybe he did. … He loved puns.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 7:30:04am

re: #347 FormerDirtDart

Yuengling: The “craft beer” for wingnuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 7:30:25am

re: #361 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sounds like a joke my uncle would have told. Wait, maybe he did. … He loved puns.

My own proud creation, I sat up all night working on that one.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 7:30:32am

re: #350 lawhawk

Had the arrestor system not been in place, the plane would have gone into Flushing Bay, and the outcome would have been far more serious for those on board. The Port Authority was among the agencies involved in creating the EMAS system, particularly after several planes have crashed after overrunning the runways at PA airports (JFK and LGA).

faa.gov

Images I’ve seen lead me to believe they were landing on runway 22, which means they were stopped from running into the Grand Central Parkway.

I believe this was shot from the west side of the airport, near the old Marine Air Terminal access road

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 28, 2016 • 7:31:40am

Didn’t take Shaun King long to get on the Malheur case:

Facebook Post

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 7:31:51am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Yuengling: The “craft beer” for wingnuts.

Union Busting Ended My Love Affair with a Beer

huffingtonpost.com

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b_sharp Oct 28, 2016 • 7:32:25am

re: #356 Dr. Matt

Cats are dicks.

But not all dicks are cats

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:34:15am

Have you seen the latest RWNJ nonsense? Clinton said she approved of registering both men and women if the USA had to re-instituting conscription, so the nutters have made the (il)logical conclusions.

While Hillary is fighting for US in Washington, we’ll be fighting for HER in Russia! #DraftOurDaughters #DealMeIn via @RobbyMook pic.twitter.com/cFtL9nPcJR

— MicroSpookyLeaks™ (@WDFx2EU7) October 28, 2016

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 7:35:00am

re: #359 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It would take a totally different approach to rebuilding the airport to improve runway length/orientation. Don’t expect that to happen. Ever

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 28, 2016

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The Port Authority and Gov. Cuomo have pushed to start a $4 billion renovation of the airport, including new terminals, jetways, and parking. The Governor has also included an AirTrain to the 7 train. None of that addresses the fundamental issues with the short and crossing runway setup. It would take a far more expensive and comprehensive rethink of the airport to address that.

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 7:36:22am

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel

Didn’t take Shaun King long to get on the Malheur case:

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Would King be happier if the FBI had assaulted the Reserve? There is nothing wrong with Fed LE going for a low body count, no matter who is inside.. The fuckup was in the inept use of the legal system.

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 7:36:51am

Richmond Public Square: Police shootings caused by poverty or acts of prejudice? #RVA https://t.co/6qi7JuEr8r pic.twitter.com/85j7zmywz8

— Times-Dispatch (@RTDNEWS) October 28, 2016

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Let’s ask a roomful of old white people! https://t.co/4cZRn4xmeJ

— David S. Bernstein (@dbernstein) October 28, 2016

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Weaselone Oct 28, 2016 • 7:38:30am

re: #371 Franklin

Do poor people have some sort of bullet attracting property that I am not aware of?

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 28, 2016 • 7:39:42am

SMOTI is citing artificial intelligence:

AI (Artificial Intelligence System) Predicts Trump Landslide - More Popular Than Obama in 2008
(freeper re-post)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 7:40:01am

re: #372 Weaselone

Do poor people have some sort of bullet attracting property that I am not aware of?

dark matter

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 7:40:02am

re: #372 Weaselone

Do poor people have some sort of bullet attracting property that I am not aware of?

No, but rich people are far more bulletproof.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:40:30am

re: #369 lawhawk

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The Port Authority and Gov. Cuomo have pushed to start a $4 billion renovation of the airport, including new terminals, jetways, and parking. The Governor has also included an AirTrain to the 7 train. None of that addresses the fundamental issues with the short and crossing runway setup. It would take a far more expensive and comprehensive rethink of the airport to address that.

LGA is too small and too cramped for a modern airport, and it’s got no expansion room without screwing up a lot of neighborhoods.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:41:28am

re: #372 Weaselone

Do poor people have some sort of bullet attracting property that I am not aware of?

It’s like Westworld. Hosts can “die,” guests cannot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 7:41:40am

re: #376 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

LGA is too small and too cramped for a modern airport, and it’s got no expansion room without screwing up a lot of neighborhoods.

Frankfurt Airport could be a lot bigger, but has to shut down flights between 11pm and 5am because of noise concerns

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 7:42:08am

re: #364 FormerDirtDart

Images I’ve seen lead me to believe they were landing on runway 22, which means they were stopped from running into the Grand Central Parkway.

I believe this was shot from the west side of the airport, near the old Marine Air Terminal access road

Well look at that, newest entry under “Accident and incidents” on Wikipedia’s LaGuardia Airport page

“…On October 27, 2016, a Boeing 737-700 operated by the new Eastern Air Lines carrying Republican Vice Presidential nominee and Indiana Governor Mike Pence skidded off Runway 22 after landing. The aircraft was ultimately stopped by the EMAS bed just before the Grand Central Parkway. No one was injured in the incident…”

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 7:47:37am

Ha!

We didn’t need @wikileaks to tell us Bill Clinton made millions from speaking and using contacts for his charity. It’s in his tax filings

— Boycott Trump SCION (@puppymnkey) October 27, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:47:38am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart

Well look at that, newest entry under “Accident and incidents” on Wikipedia’s LaGuardia Airport page

Sharp eyed, you are.

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makeitstop Oct 28, 2016 • 7:48:09am

re: #355 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yuenglings is still a family business: I heard that one of the brothers has opened a brew pub in which he serves his specialty: bay leaf-flavored craft beer.

Which has a weird effect, some combination of the laurel oils, hops and alcohol totally numbs the tongue, making it hard to talk.

So to keep people entertained, he has employed clowns, jugglers and acrobats to entertain the guests who otherwise cannot entertain each other by conversing.

And he calls it the

…wait for it…

Yuengling Brother’s Bar Numb on Bay Leaves Circus!!!

Well, that was a damned long walk. :)

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 7:48:33am

re: #376 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It would be possible to expand LGA, but it would involve either filling in the bay between the airport and Rikers Island (relocating the city jail in the process), or moving the land-side portion of the airport - terminals, parking, etc. to a new structure built over the Grand Central Parkway. I don’t see either happening.

So, the airport will remain a regional airport as far as most trips are concerned since it can’t handle the bigger planes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 7:48:37am

re: #382 makeitstop

Well, that was a damned long walk. :)

I stayed up all night working it out.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 7:49:00am

re: #341 b_sharp

I think that’s because Nate is a frequentist and Wang is a Bayesian.

It’s because Silver uses t-distribution instead of normal. Basically his model is never going to be all that sure the electorate is being polled at all.

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makeitstop Oct 28, 2016 • 7:49:40am

re: #364 FormerDirtDart

Images I’ve seen lead me to believe they were landing on runway 22, which means they were stopped from running into the Grand Central Parkway.

I believe this was shot from the west side of the airport, near the old Marine Air Terminal access road

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Correct. They were at the other end of the airport from the bay.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 7:49:55am

re: #376 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

LGA is too small and too cramped for a modern airport, and it’s got no expansion room without screwing up a lot of neighborhoods.

Runway 4/22 could be lengthened northward out into the bay with no real effect to anyone. Runway 13/31 though really has no where to go. Westward causes clearance problems over the Rikers Island bridge, and eastward with the derricks at the North Shore Marine Transfer terminal

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 7:51:40am

re: #383 lawhawk

It would be possible to expand LGA, but it would involve either filling in the bay between the airport and Rikers Island (relocating the city jail in the process), or moving the land-side portion of the airport - terminals, parking, etc. to a new structure built over the Grand Central Parkway. I don’t see either happening.

So, the airport will remain a regional airport as far as most trips are concerned since it can’t handle the bigger planes.

My son travels for work a lot. I recommended he avoid LGA and either fly to JFK or EWR if he has to go to NYC. Way back when, I preferred LaGuardia when I was flying to and from NY/LI, because it was marginally closer to my parent’s home, but only for domestic flights.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 7:52:13am

re: #385 goddamnedfrank

It’s because Silver uses t-distribution instead of normal. Basically his model is never going to be all that sure the electorate is being polled at all.

It’s also because Silver’s model tunes into the noise via the trend line adjustment, by assuming that variations between iterations of the same poll are highly meaningful.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 7:54:36am

re: #389 goddamnedfrank

It’s also because Silver’s model tunes into the noise via the trend line adjustment, by assuming that variations between iterations of the same poll are highly meaningful.

This is really kind of nuts if you think about it, the more any particular poll goes out of control the more his model reacts to that. It basically undermines the entire idea of averaging polls in the first place.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 7:56:33am

re: #388 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve recently flown out of LGA a couple of times. I wont fly out of there until they finally get the parking situation resolved, and even then I’ll probably consider off-airport parking. Last time I did long term parking there, it ended up costing me more for parking than it did to fly out and back. And there’s next to no parking spaces available while they’re renovating. There was also issues a while back about how the road in/out of the airport backed up for hours due to traffic/congestion. That’s reason enough to avoid.

The terminal for Delta has been upgraded, and is fairly comfortable, albeit smaller than comparable ones at JFK. Since my primary carriers are Delta and jetBlue, I typically fly out of JFK (and love the airtrain for convenience purposes). I don’t particularly care for flying out of EWR though, even though it’s closer to home.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 7:58:23am

All that time y’all were talking shit, we’ve been working. Per fucking usual. #ExpectUs

— Propane Jane™ (@docrocktex26) October 28, 2016

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calochortus Oct 28, 2016 • 7:59:32am

re: #368 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Have you seen the latest RWNJ nonsense? Clinton said she approved of registering both men and women if the USA had to re-instituting conscription, so the nutters have made the (il)logical conclusions.

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Didn’t the wingnuts already try to use “OMG, they’ll draft our daughters!!!!!” only to be met by a majority response of “It’s only fair?”

I think that ship already sailed.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:02:05am

re: #393 calochortus

Didn’t the wingnuts already try to use “OMG, they’ll draft our daughters!!!!!” only to be met by a majority response of “It’s only fair?”

I think that ship already sailed.

They’re playing on the latest RWNJ malarkey that Clinton will start a nuclear war with Russia, which Trump has repeated at least a few times publicly. It makes no damned sense, but it’s RWNJ-town, Jake.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 8:03:03am

re: #394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They’re playing on the latest RWNJ malarkey that Clinton will start a nuclear war with Russia, which Trump has repeated at least a few times publicly. It makes no damned sense, but it’s RWNJ-town, Jake.

Wait, RWNJ don’t want war now?

Especially nuke war. That can bring on the Apocalypse and all like that.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:04:54am

re: #395 Sir John Barron

Wait, RWNJ don’t want war now?

Especially nuke war. That can bring on the Apocalypse and all like that.

//

They only want war when a Republican is in the White House. War is bad when a Democrat is in the White House. So, if Trump were elected, and declared war on Russia, it would totally OK! And he could even draft the girls, because only he can fix!

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 28, 2016 • 8:04:55am

I think we should draft militia members and their families since, by their own admission, they are already prepared for war.

Oh.

Never mind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 8:06:04am

Upon dissolution of the USSR, the Ukraine was left with the world’s fifth-largest nuclear arsenal on its territory. They agreed to disarm in exchange for guarantees from the West that we would help defend their territorial integrity.

Since we have welshed on our end of the deal, is it not only fair that we give them back their nukes?

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calochortus Oct 28, 2016 • 8:06:13am

re: #394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They’re playing on the latest RWNJ malarkey that Clinton will start a nuclear war with Russia, which Trump has repeated at least a few times publicly. It makes no damned sense, but it’s RWNJ-town, Jake.

If there’s a nuclear war, we won’t have to register for the draft to be dead.

There does seem to be a lot of preaching to the choir going on.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:06:20am

re: #397 Shiplord Kirel

I think we should draft militia members and their families since, by their own admission, they are already prepared for war.

Oh.

Never mind.

It would be cheaper, since they’ve already got their firearms, body armor and training, right? Just round them up, and drop them into a war zone. Problem solved!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 8:07:47am

re: #396 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They only want war when a Republican is in the White House. War is bad when a Democrat is in the White House. So, if Trump were elected, and declared war on Russia, it would totally OK! And he could even draft the girls, because only he can fix!

Patton’s motto: “Grab ‘em by the nose and kick ‘em in the ass!”

Trump’s motto: no, I won’t go there…

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William Lewis Oct 28, 2016 • 8:10:50am

re: #355 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

BRAVO! Excellent! Send it to one of the late night shows :D

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 8:11:13am

The massive @realDonaldTrump project was to be situated at the intersection of routes 4 and 17. https://t.co/3m5JS86aVL pic.twitter.com/tY0tgmtK1u

— North Jersey News (@NorthJerseybrk) October 28, 2016

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This is a story about a land deal pretty much in my backyard - the intersection of Rt. 4 and 17 in Paramus. Seems Trump wanted to build a massive project there, including hotels, towers, and mall to compete with the Garden State Plaza across from it.

How did Trump get involved in this location? Seems he was a part owner of the Alexander’s Department Store chain (27% made him largest shareholder). Alexander’s was trying to figure out how to redevelop the site, and Trump tried to get it done.

He failed.

The site was ultimately turned into an Ikea, Bed Bath and Beyond and Christmas Tree shops, while the Garden State Plaza has turned into one of the largest malls in the nation and recently built a significant expansion w/new luxury stores.

Oh, and why did I mention Alexander’s and Trump’s part ownership?

Because that department store ultimately went bankrupt as well.

The bankruptcy was timed with Trump’s departure from the board.

The filing seems linked to the departure of Donald Trump from Alexander’s board. Trump left the board April 16 after turning over his Alexander’s shares to Citibank in partial payment of a $70 million debt. Trump, remember, abhors the word “bankruptcy.” Alexander’s went broke May 15, saying it was in “the best interests” of the company.

But the more I crunch the numbers, the more it looks as if a major reason — maybe the major reason — for Alexander’s bankruptcy is public relations. Alexander’s cash and the proceeds of its going-out-of-business sale were enough to pay its suppliers in full and close its stores without resorting to Chapter 11.

So why file? That way, no one can blame Alexander’s board of directors for closing the stores and putting 5,000 employees on the street. No blame attaches to Alexander’s dominant shareholder, a low-profile real estate developer named Steven Roth. And as Citibank pointed out in a news release, the three Citibankers on Alexander’s board abstained on the bankruptcy vote.

Listen closely, and you hear the chant: “It’s not my fault.”

Roth’s name has barely been mentioned, which is the way he likes it. The man, a believer in the “It’s the whale that comes to the surface that gets harpooned” school of public relations, has gone to the trouble of hiring the expensive spinmeisters at Kekst & Co. to say that he has nothing to say.

The financial reason for the Alexander’s bankruptcy, to the extent there is one, seems to involve another batch of low-profile rich people, the Gruss family. The Grusses — it rhymes with “mooses” — own 18 percent of the partnership that owns the Alexander’s store at Lexington Avenue and 59th Street, prime Manhattan real estate. The Grusses have the right to sell their holding to Alexander’s for $35 million through August 1993, and Alexander’s doesn’t have the cash to pay them.

I can’t tell you what the players in this game have to say, because no one would talk on the record. So I’m basing this article mostly on public information, and my interpretation of it.

What we have here is a classic example of how easy it is to assume that the famous players — Donald Trump, Citibank, Alexander’s founding Farkas family — are the real powers, and to ignore the low-profile types such as Steve Roth and the Grusses. In this case, it’s the low-profile folks who have the clout.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 8:12:29am

Trump is telling people he’s matching their donations. He donated almost nothing last month https://t.co/TEtoxML3Dy

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) October 28, 2016

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Act NOW before it’s too late and we’ll DOUBLE your order! Just pay extra fuck you & handling. https://t.co/rfScoKl1RT

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 8:15:12am

re: #404 goddamnedfrank

Trump is fleecing the rubes for all it’s worth and what’s laughable is that none of the marks can see that they’re being hustled by a city-slicker shyster, a bullshit artiste.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 8:15:49am

re: #404 goddamnedfrank

Trump is telling people he’s matching their donations. He donated almost nothing last month secure.donaldjtrump.com
— Maggie Haberman

Lies! I never said that. Media is biased against me. Rigged election! Revolution! Why does media hate me? I’ve donated all my money. I’ve matched everyone’s money. I never said I would match. Lies!

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 28, 2016 • 8:16:42am

The internet’s most broken clock, Glenn Beck, nails it again. Thing is, do I really want Glenn on my side? After all, he’s liable to start seeing Putin iconography in the decor at Rockefeller Center or something.

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 8:16:42am

re: #368 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Have you seen the latest RWNJ nonsense? Clinton said she approved of registering both men and women if the USA had to re-instituting conscription, so the nutters have made the (il)logical conclusions.

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Wasn’t one of the proto-MRA arguments that women, if they truly wanted to be equal, should have to register for conscription like any man?

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 8:18:01am

Florida (@ppppolls)

PRES
Clinton 48
Trump 44

SEN
Rubio 46
Murphy 46https://t.co/Q3aH4z1FHq

— Luke Brinker (@LukeBrinker) October 28, 2016

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If this is anywhere close to true, Dems need to put some damn money down NOW to beat Rubio. https://t.co/LFExssg98d

— Ben Yelin (@byelin) October 28, 2016

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Romantic Heretic Oct 28, 2016 • 8:18:03am

re: #373 Shiplord Kirel

SMOTI is citing artificial intelligence:

AI (Artificial Intelligence System) Predicts Trump Landslide - More Popular Than Obama in 2008
(freeper re-post)

Whose intelligence is the AI copying? SMOTI himself?

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 8:19:17am

re: #404 goddamnedfrank

Trump is telling people he’s matching their donations. He donated almost nothing last month

Interview tonight w/ @realdonaldtrump at Trump Tower. He tells me he’s planning to write his… https://t.co/QriGZgQ8wG

— Bret Baier (@BretBaier) October 28, 2016

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Trump tells Bret Baier he’s planning to write his campaign a $10MIL check today. https://t.co/Urd4KQG4Eb

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 28, 2016

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 8:19:21am

re: #371 Franklin

OT, but this is fucking rich:

It was the most rancorous part of a conversation that had the potential to become explosive but remained civil. One person was escorted out for violating the rules by live-streaming the discussion.

A newspaper kicks out someone for livestreaming a public event? Imagine if someone did that to one of their reporters.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:19:26am

re: #403 lawhawk

So, are you saying Trump was outmaneuvered by some “small-time” operators?

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 28, 2016 • 8:19:31am

re: #368 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Have you seen the latest RWNJ nonsense? Clinton said she approved of registering both men and women if the USA had to re-instituting conscription, so the nutters have made the (il)logical conclusions.

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This Deplorable @WDFx2EU7 has been tweeting out a shit ton of blithering idiocy which SMOTI happily retweets like it is PYOOR TROOF.

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 8:19:58am

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel

The internet’s most broken clock, Glenn Beck, nails it again. Thing is, do I really want Glenn on my side? After all, he’s liable to start seeing Putin iconography in the decor at Rockefeller Center or something.

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Actually, Glenn may well be on to something there. Not long ago, the so-called “Donestk Republic” opened a consulate here in Ostrava. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Putin was funding things like a militia that’s recently sprung up here in the Czech Republic, a far-right group that’s exceedingly pro-Russian.

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b.d. Oct 28, 2016 • 8:20:53am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart

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If Rubio loses Florida does that mean that he will immediately start running for the 2020 GOP nomination rather than waiting a year or so if he wins his re-election?

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 8:21:00am

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

Y’know, that watch photo actually ain’t half horrible for cranking it out in about a minute.

I still got skillz & will toot them.

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Romantic Heretic Oct 28, 2016 • 8:21:12am

re: #376 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

LGA is too small and too cramped for a modern airport, and it’s got no expansion room without screwing up a lot of neighborhoods.

How poor are the neighborhoods? If poor there won’t be any problem with expansion. If middle-class or higher it won’t happen.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:22:31am

re: #408 Timothy Watson

Wasn’t one of the proto-MRA arguments that women, if they truly wanted to be equal, should have register for conscription like any man?

TBH, I have no idea. The MRA guys seem conflicted by the whole equality thing, because drafting women would mean more female NCOs and COs bossing around lower-ranked men, which is totally against the Law of Nature™.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:23:18am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

This Deplorable @WDFx2EU7 has been tweeting out a shit ton of blithering idiocy which SMOTI happily retweets like it is PYOOR TROOF.

Could they be the same person?

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b_sharp Oct 28, 2016 • 8:23:27am

re: #395 Sir John Barron

Wait, RWNJ don’t want war now?

Especially nuke war. That can bring on the Apocalypse and all like that.

//

I’d rather zombies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 8:23:43am

re: #419 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

TBH, I have no idea. The MRA guys seem conflicted by the whole equality thing, because drafting women would mean more female NCOs and COs bossing around lower-ranked men, which is totally against the Law of Nature™.

The only females they want to see in war are “comfort women”.

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Teukka Oct 28, 2016 • 8:23:45am

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel

The internet’s most broken clock, Glenn Beck, nails it again. Thing is, do I really want Glenn on my side? After all, he’s liable to start seeing Putin iconography in the decor at Rockefeller Center or something.

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Or could it be that he be finally coming to and smelling the coffee? semi-///

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Jay C Oct 28, 2016 • 8:24:24am

re: #408 Timothy Watson

Wasn’t one of the proto-MRA arguments that women, if they truly wanted to be equal, should have register for conscription like any man?

And also, isn’t the draft, in this day and age, mainly a bureaucratic formality? What, seriously, is the likelihood that the US is going to need large numbers of conscripts to fill a high-tech, specialized military’s man(woman-)power needs?

The only situation where I can realistically see the services running that short of volunteers is if the civilian economy revs up to the point where there are so many non-military job opportunities for the otherwise-enlistees that the competition creates shortages.

But on review of my comment, I see I said “realistically”…

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 8:24:34am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart

Trump tells Bret Baier he’s planning to write his campaign a $10MIL check today.

Interview tonight w/ @realdonaldtrump at Trump Tower. He tells me he’s planning to write his… https://t.co/QriGZgQ8wG

— Bret Baier (@BretBaier) October 28, 2016

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— Kyle Griffin

Damn media, especially New York Times. Failing paper. Losers. Nobody cares about my donations or promises. But I guess I have to cough up some money to shut everyone up. Damn it. Not big league at all. How long do I have to keep doing this Shiite?

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 8:25:43am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart

Trump was going to put the cookies back in the cookie jar! Why can’t media leave Trump alone? Biased! Rigged! What about Podesta emails? Wikileaks!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:25:45am

re: #418 Romantic Heretic

How poor are the neighborhoods? If poor there won’t be any problem with expansion. If middle-class or higher it won’t happen.

If Robert Moses were still alive and in power, he’d raze the whole area, double the airport’s size, and for good measure, throw in a couple more highways — or long parking lots, as the case may be.

Unless the neighborhoods were owned by rich folks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:27:16am

re: #425 Sir John Barron

Damn media, especially New York Times. Failing paper. Losers. Nobody cares about my donations or promises. But I guess I have to cough up some money to shut everyone up. Damn it. Not big league at all. How long do I have to keep doing this Shiite?

I betcha that check will bounce.

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b.d. Oct 28, 2016 • 8:27:19am

In case you were wondering what happened to the dinosaurs… (via @DrJohnsonMD) pic.twitter.com/v1Fnl7PIsc

— Strange Animals (@Strange_Animals) October 28, 2016

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b.d. Oct 28, 2016 • 8:28:39am

re: #428 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I betcha that check will bounce.

[trump] I put that check in the mail myself, I wonder why I haven’t received it yet? [/trump]

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 8:29:19am

Facebook allows advertisers to exclude users by race. Exclude. Users. By. Race. https://t.co/aZLejiqmBy

— Mike Monteiro (@monteiro) October 28, 2016

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Man, Facebook is turning into a real Trump Campaign. https://t.co/I2Sv0f0QUA

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 8:29:39am

re: #430 b.d.

[trump] I put that check in the mail myself, I wonder why I haven’t received it yet? [/trump]

“Do you mind if I post-date this to Nov 10?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 8:30:08am

re: #310 goddamnedfrank

Cool story, Steve.

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@ SFlesherC4P LOL, a proud of himself loser since 2008. And as a die-hard Palin fan, Steve never had any intention of voting for Tammy. Ever.

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Jay C Oct 28, 2016 • 8:30:25am

In case you were wondering what happened to the dinosaurs… (via @DrJohnsonMD) pic.twitter.com/v1Fnl7PIsc

— Strange Animals (@Strange_Animals) October 28, 2016

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Well, for one thing, they seem to have shrunk considerably.

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 8:31:14am

re: #429 b.d.

Last year, I was helping a young student review her science homework. There was a question about dinosaurs, so I asked her “When did the dinosaurs go extinct?” to which she answered, “About 65 million years ago. Well…..except for the birds. They’re basically the last surviving dinosaurs.”

I was quite proud of her - she’s only 11 years old and I’m glad to see that kids here in the Czech Republic are at least learning properly.

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b.d. Oct 28, 2016 • 8:32:11am

re: #434 Jay C

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Well, for one thing, they seem to have shrunk considerably.

[norma dinosaur] I Am Big, It’s the Pictures That Got Small [/norma dinosaur]

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 8:32:59am

re: #430 b.d.

“Yeah I said was matching but come on no one took me seriously. Those were just words.”

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 28, 2016 • 8:35:47am

re: #435 Dr Lizardo

Last year, I was helping a young student review her science homework. There was a question about dinosaurs, so I asked her “When did the dinosaurs go extinct?” to which she answered, “About 65 million years ago. Well…..except for the birds. They’re basically the last surviving dinosaurs.”

I was quite proud of her - she’s only 11 years old and I’m glad to see that kids here in the Czech Republic are at least learning properly.

Good for her. Here in Texas, such a student would be scolded and sent away to Jesus re-education camp if certain powerful RWNJ politicians had their way.

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Sherlock Hound Oct 28, 2016 • 8:35:52am

re: #286 Decatur Deb

If it’s Gov Christie, he just told the guards to stand down.

When Herr Christie says, “I’ll close this bridge, it’s great!”
We Heil! Heil! Right in Herr Christie’s face!

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 8:36:06am

BREAKING: Juror 4:Prosecutors in #Oregonstandoff case failed to prove defendants’ ‘intent’ to impede federal workers https://t.co/BjgbFdCKiO

— Maxine Bernstein (@maxoregonian) October 28, 2016

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Apparently, defendants admitting to a crime multiple times on camera wasn’t enough for 12 Oregon jurors. https://t.co/vOXowyCNwl

— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) October 28, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 8:37:01am

re: #431 goddamnedfrank

Facebook allows advertisers to exclude users by race. Exclude. Users. By. Race

that should not be an issue unless it applies to sensitive areas like housing, education or financial services.

it falls into the gray area between passing out flyers (which can be done selectively by neighborhood) and advertising in broadcast media(which can be heard or seen everywhere)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 8:37:23am

re: #434 Jay C

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Well, for one thing, they seem to have shrunk considerably.

lotsa dinosaurs were that small…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 8:37:44am

re: #334 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OK, Steve Flesher may be missing the point, but at least he’s not a rabid knuckle-dragging GOP-bot. I’m a-gonna leave him alone.

Steve is a Palin pantysniffer. Just as bad.
Ask him about that time Sarah was proven to be right when she said Paul Revere rode through town ringing that bell to warn the British we were coming to take their guns.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 8:38:05am

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

It was jury nullification IMO. There’s no other explanation. They didn’t prove a case when the defendants admit on video repeatedly to the very crimes charged?

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 8:38:14am

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

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Wish I could find the clip from The Shield of Dutch talking about how stupid jurors are.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 8:38:24am

Even the Russian and East German judges would give this Cillizza slam a “10”

Beating Rubio would be worthwhile for Dems for many reasons, but the psychic blow it’d deal to the GOP/conservatives is under appreciated.

— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) October 28, 2016

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Nov. 9th, The Fix: Winners: Rubio. “Rubio’s concession speech proves he has profound political gifts.” https://t.co/yTslnx1cwW

— Ben Yelin (@byelin) October 28, 2016

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 8:38:32am

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

What the juror meant was the government failed to prove that the defendants intended to impede the federal workers ability to turn all the land over to them and head back to DC.

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Mike Lamb Oct 28, 2016 • 8:39:09am

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

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Like I said above, apparently being armed, sitting at the workers’ desks, and using their computers was an open invitation to get work done…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 8:39:44am

re: #447 Belafon

What the juror meant was the government failed to prove that the defendants intended to impede the federal workers ability to turn all the land over to them and head back to DC.

Authorities treated these guys with kid gloves, handled it admirably IMHO, and this is what came of it. Next occupation might nor go off as harmlessly…

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 28, 2016 • 8:39:44am

re: #415 Dr Lizardo

Actually, Glenn may well be on to something there. Not long ago, the so-called “Donestk Republic” opened a consulate here in Ostrava. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Putin was funding things like a militia that’s recently sprung up here in the Czech Republic, a far-right group that’s exceedingly pro-Russian.

Oh, he’s definitely on to something. I have to wonder if he is actually struggling upward to the light of reality or if he just didn’t get the same ~~bag of cash~~ memo as other RWNJ media.

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 8:41:10am

re: #442 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

lotsa dinosaurs were that small…

It can take a long time for ideas to filter from the science world to the popular-science world. From the 1960s or so, I remember a published statement that the run-of-the-mill dinosaur was about the size of a chicken.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 8:41:14am

re: #446 FormerDirtDart

The Fix, November 9: Rubio’s loss demonstrates how much trouble president-elect Hillary is in.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 8:43:35am

re: #448 Mike Lamb

Like I said above, apparently being armed, sitting at the workers’ desks, and using their computers was an open invitation to get work done…

Nothing wrong with that. People, desk workers are such pansy losers these days. Man-up. Can’t do your work with guns waving in your face, why do you deserve to work there anyway?

///

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 8:44:46am

re: #449 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Authorities treated these guys with kid gloves, handled it admirably IMHO, and this is what came of it. Next occupation might nor go off as harmlessly…

Consequence might be that the BLM/NPS/etc find it impossible to safely staff small isolated facilities, and shut them down.

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Joe Bacon Oct 28, 2016 • 8:46:32am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

Oh this RAZZIES classic is carefully stored in my Holy of Holies Bad Movie Box in it’s uncut version!

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Dragonomics Oct 28, 2016 • 8:46:43am

How about charging the Malheur militia with mail theft? “Those dildos were for the birds, not you dildos!”

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 28, 2016 • 8:46:50am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

Consequence might be that the BLM/NPS/etc find it impossible to safely staff small isolated facilities, and shut them down.

I can imagine a kind of RWNJ land rush as caravans of pickups loaded with armed yahoos invade and essentially squat on federal facilities

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Oct 28, 2016 • 8:47:22am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

Steve is a Palin pantysniffer. Just as bad.
Ask him about that time Sarah was proven to be right when she said Paul Revere rode through town ringing that bell to warn the British we were coming to take their guns.

I’ll pass, thanks. Got better things to do than waste time debating with an idiot. He’s doesn’t seem to be nasty, but he’s not real bright.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 8:47:44am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

Consequence might be that the BLM/NPS/etc find it impossible to safely staff small isolated facilities, and shut them down.

None of the consequences seem positive to me…things are going to get ugly before they get worse. They tried to avoid another Ruby Ridge and got a massive clusterf*ck in the making instead.

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Teukka Oct 28, 2016 • 8:48:23am

For the computer lizardim:

Dirty Cow Exploit - Computerphile

If you run a linux machine and have not heard of DirtyCOW: dirtycow.ninja

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jeffreyw Oct 28, 2016 • 8:49:27am

re: #434 Jay C

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Well, for one thing, they seem to have shrunk considerably.

They do grow some more…

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 8:49:58am

Trump campaign spent $332,511 reimbursing Trump properties this month, including $13,431 to the new Trump DC hotel. https://t.co/lFvbq37DQq

— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) October 28, 2016

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😹 his campaign paid his hotel for that hotel PR stop no i am serious 😹 https://t.co/bK8rt66LOE

— darth™ 😹 11 days (@darth) October 28, 2016

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 8:53:03am

re: #455 Joe Bacon

Oh this RAZZIES classic is carefully stored in my Holy of Holies Bad Movie Box in it’s uncut version!

LOLOL. I like watching it every now and then. I grew up in the 70s, when eco-horror was all the rage. Movies like that, Kingdom Of The Spiders, etc.

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Stanley Sea Oct 28, 2016 • 8:54:50am

Take the time to read this one

A young sports journalist who stood up for herself, and others like her. Devastating what addiction can do https://t.co/zHmCigD0TL

— Drew Harwell (@drewharwell) October 28, 2016

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William Lewis Oct 28, 2016 • 8:55:42am

re: #460 Teukka

For the computer lizardim:

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Interesting how they use this as an excuse to pimp FreeBSD which has gone nowhere because it’s a pig to setup and use effectively. Do not get me started on the miserable excuse that is their ports system. And I say that as someone who _likes_ the various BSD’s over SysV type systems.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 8:57:48am

re: #458 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ll pass, thanks. Got better things to do than waste time debating with an idiot. He’s doesn’t seem to be nasty, but he’s not real bright.

Steve is one of the original Palin fanbois. He’s also the founder of gayconservatives dot org.
He is a very confused person.

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Mattand Oct 28, 2016 • 8:58:59am

re: #447 Belafon

What the juror meant was the government failed to prove that the defendants intended to impede the federal workers ability to turn all the land over to them and head back to DC.

This is what fucking gets me. That was the Bundys’ endgame. Right there.

Either the prosecutors were really bad at their jobs, or these people were basically Bundys without the guns and the inbreeding.

I’m leaning towards the latter. This fucking country, sometimes…

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KingKenrod Oct 28, 2016 • 9:00:15am

Personally I thought the “impeding federal employees” conspiracy was a pretty weak charge. Theft/Trespassing/Squatting and related conspiracy would make more sense. It’s not surprising that the one charge that didn’t get an acquittal was theft. But I’m mystified why the firearms charges didn’t stick.

As far was what else to charge them with, there’s setting up illegal checkpoints, which amounts to declaring an unauthorized legal structure. A private citizen with a weapon can’t just stop someone on public lands. That’s got to be illegal. Also vandalism and destruction/misuse of public lands.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 9:00:39am

If my people said the things about me that Podesta & Hillary’s people said about her, I would fire them out of self respect. “Bad instincts”

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 28, 2016

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If any trump staffer with a grievance against a fellow staffer wants to leak me an email, now is the time https://t.co/1RizpfUFku

— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) October 28, 2016

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 9:02:01am

re: #467 Mattand

This is what fucking get me. That was the Bundys’ endgame. Right there.

Either the prosecutors were really bad at their jobs, or these people were basically Bundys without the guns and the inbreeding.

I’m leaning towards the latter. This fucking country, sometimes…

As I described it yesterday, this area views itself a not under the authority of the federal government. The people remind me of the Pashtun region of Afghanistan.

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Skip Intro Oct 28, 2016 • 9:02:27am

re: #425 Sir John Barron

I’m planning to write a ten million dollar check for a house, just as soon as I get other people to give me the ten million.

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allegro Oct 28, 2016 • 9:04:42am

Friday with Dexter and Buddy:

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LastYearsMan Oct 28, 2016 • 9:08:37am

On how a fake conservative news website has been fueling much conservative derp for the last few months. Perhaps the least surprising news ever. But still really, really depressing.

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philosophus invidius Oct 28, 2016 • 9:14:48am

‘Miami-Dade busts 2 women for election fraud’https://t.co/hEU89Zt6JE

— Dan Scavino Jr. (@DanScavino) October 28, 2016

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@notinabluemoon @DanScavino @MiamiHerald Alleged fraud was to benefit Raquel Regalado, a REPUBLICAN candidate for mayor.

— Manny (@syntheticunity) October 28, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 9:15:15am

People have asked me to tweet something positive about Trump. Okay, so be it: I am POSITIVE that Trump is a national disgrace.

— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) October 28, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Oct 28, 2016 • 9:15:47am

If my people said the things about me that Podesta & Hillary’s people said about her, I would fire them out of self respect. “Bad instincts”

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 28, 2016

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You mean like when your campaign manager @KellyannePolls said you whine and called you unpresidential & vulgar? https://t.co/k3yY9t2hmj

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 28, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Oct 28, 2016 • 9:15:51am

re: #464 Stanley Sea

Take the time to read this one

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That’s so sad. It is a deep read about both alcoholism and the path Frey forged as a young female reporter fearlessly going into locker rooms to get her story.

Coincidentally, on the alcohol abuse thing, I’ve been listening to and am right now listening to The Replacements of the Bob Stinson era. I read a few articles last night about Bob and the band’s problems, but how Bob in particular couldn’t stop drinking even as lost everything.

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William Lewis Oct 28, 2016 • 9:21:07am

re: #477 Barefoot Grin

That’s so sad. It is a deep read about both alcoholism and the path Frey forged as a young female reporter fearlessly going into locker rooms to get her story.

Coincidentally, on the alcohol abuse thing, I’ve been listening to and am right now listening to The Replacements of the Bob Stinson era. I read a few articles last night about Bob and the band’s problems, but how Bob in particular couldn’t stop drinking even as lost everything.

One thing to remember is that the rest weren’t much better and didn’t clean up either until much later. Paul, bless him, got lucky that he was able to survive till he was able to clean up. Bob didn’t.

“Here Comes A Regular”

Well a person can work up a mean mean thirst
after a hard day of nothin’ much at all
Summer’s passed, it’s too late to cut the grass
There ain’t much to rake anyway in the fall

And sometimes I just ain’t in the mood
to take my place in back with the loudmouths
You’re like a picture on the fridge that’s never stocked with food
I used to live at home, now I stay at the house

And everybody wants to be special here
They call your name out loud and clear
Here comes a regular
Call out your name
Here comes a regular
Am I the only one here today?

Well a drinkin’ buddy that’s bound to another town
Once the police made you go away
And even if you’re in the arms of someone’s baby now
I’ll take a great big whiskey to ya anyway

Everybody wants to be someone’s here
Someone’s gonna show up, never fear
‘cause here comes a regular
Call out your name
Here comes a regular
Am I the only one who feels ashamed?

Kneeling alongside old Sad Eyes
He says opportunity knocks once then the door slams shut
All I know is I’m sick of everything that my money can buy
The fool who wastes his life, God rest his guts

First the lights, then the collar goes up, and the wind begins to blow
Turn your back on a pay-you-back, last call
First the glass, then the leaves that pass, then comes the snow
Ain’t much to rake anyway in the fall

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gocart mozart Oct 28, 2016 • 9:22:50am

Incredible 7D Hologram pic.twitter.com/YTJbDQiCpv

— banksy (@thereaIbanksy) October 28, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Oct 28, 2016 • 9:23:44am

re: #478 William Lewis

One thing to remember is that the rest weren’t much better and didn’t clean up either until much later. Paul, bless him, got lucky that he was able to survive till he was able to clean up. Bob didn’t.

Yep. One of my good friends worked with Tommy Keene who played guitar on one of Paul’s solo tours. Tommy told him that Paul had a zero-tolerance policy against alcohol for band and crew. I guess he was in fear of what a tour can do to sobriety.

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gocart mozart Oct 28, 2016 • 9:25:05am

Even his hair is abandoning him.

The Flannel Moth Caterpillar. pic.twitter.com/MdhmZMNwgy

— Strange Animals (@Strange_Animals) November 8, 2015

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— Strange Animals (@Strange_Animals) November 8, 2015

Wait, I thought I’d seen this caterpillar before… (Both these creatures are venomous) pic.twitter.com/UTTvXfceCp

— Strange Animals (@Strange_Animals) November 8, 2015

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 9:25:38am

Texas Quietly Prepares To Pass New Rules Requiring Doctors To Bury or Cremate Fetal Remains

That’s because the new rule, as the DMN writes, “would require all medical facilities, hospitals and clinics to cremate or bury fetal remains, no matter the period of gestation.” That potentially means medical providers have to figure out how to provide burials for things like molar and ectopic pregnancies and very early-term miscarriages. Texas also hasn’t specified if death certificates have to be issued for the burials to take place; if they do, they could compromise the privacy and anonymity of the patients, as the Texas Hospital Association points out, since death certificates become public record after one year.

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makeitstop Oct 28, 2016 • 9:34:58am

re: #478 William Lewis

One thing to remember is that the rest weren’t much better and didn’t clean up either until much later. Paul, bless him, got lucky that he was able to survive till he was able to clean up. Bob didn’t.

That’s the song that hooked me on the ‘Mats once and for all.

I saw Paul solo a few years ago, and he did that song. It seemed like there wasn’t a dry eye in the house, especially mine.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Oct 28, 2016 • 9:37:16am

I love the Internet.

I went to a concert last weekend, and heard an older song I’d never heard before, and of course I didn’t know the title of the song. I figured it out with setlist.fm and looked it up on Spotify, but was very underwhelmed — the live version was so much better! YouTube to the rescue:

M83 Sitting - Go! - Midnight City @ Terminal 5 New York City

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William Lewis Oct 28, 2016 • 9:40:55am

re: #483 makeitstop

That’s the song that hooked me on the ‘Mats once and for all.

I saw Paul solo a few years ago, and he did that song. It seemed like there wasn’t a dry eye in the house, especially mine.

So many great moments. Unsatisfied. Bastards of Young. Can’t Hardly Wait. Aching to Be. I’ll Be You. Androgynous. Pity he (they?) was so terrified of success that the SNL show that should have broke them to the masses was a nightmare instead.

The ‘mats, Husker Du, The Clash & The Who got me through high school alive.

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KingKenrod Oct 28, 2016 • 9:41:31am

re: #482 Dr. Matt

Texas Quietly Prepares To Pass New Rules Requiring Doctors To Bury or Cremate Fetal Remains

It’s a twofer for the anti-abortion zealots: drive up the cost of abortions and make them public record.

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wrenchwench Oct 28, 2016 • 9:42:09am

re: #482 Dr. Matt

Texas Quietly Prepares To Pass New Rules Requiring Doctors To Bury or Cremate Fetal Remains

Texas Women Quietly Respond By Send All Used Feminine Hygiene Items as Comments

a 30-day public comment period on the proposal will close on Monday.

That’s a heck of a period.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 9:42:44am

re: #486 KingKenrod

It’s a twofer for the anti-abortion zealots: drive up the cost of abortions and make them public record.

Solution: Every mother that has an abortion, which will require a death certificate, just needs to name the fetus “Greg Abbott”.

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 9:43:46am

re: #484 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I love the Internet.

I went to a concert last weekend, and heard an older song I’d never heard before, and of course I didn’t know the title of the song. I figured it out with setlist.fm and looked it up on Spotify, but was very underwhelmed — the live version was so much better! YouTube to the rescue:

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I love “Go!”, I really love the sax in the live versions I’ve seen on YouTube. Ditto for “Midnight City”.

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makeitstop Oct 28, 2016 • 9:45:07am

re: #484 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I love the Internet.

I went to a concert last weekend, and heard an older song I’d never heard before, and of course I didn’t know the title of the song. I figured it out with setlist.fm and looked it up on Spotify, but was very underwhelmed — the live version was so much better! YouTube to the rescue:

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Video

M83 was a really cool band - kind of a cross between Depeche and Tears For Fears.

I understand the two principals split up and one is still using the name.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 9:46:14am

re: #482 Dr. Matt

Further stigmatizing women who lose pregnancies due to miscarriage or are forced to abort due to medical complications.

This is the compassionate conservatism we know and loathe.

The GOP simply sees women as breeding stock, and what they feel or experience doesn’t matter.

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 9:47:34am

re: #489 Timothy Watson

I love “Go!”, I really love the sax in the live versions I’ve seen on YouTube. Ditto for “Midnight City”.

LOL, I didn’t realize the video also included “Midnight City” until I watched it. :)

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FormerDirtDart Oct 28, 2016 • 9:47:56am

@AP_Oddities @AP I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten a Cease & Desist letter from Trump and campaign’s lawyers yet…

— WB Young (@FormerDirtDart) October 28, 2016

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ObserverArt Oct 28, 2016 • 9:51:48am

After reading the posts from today all I can think of is what can be going through the mind of missing/former LGF member Dark Falcon. Not only has he got a completely dangerous ass in Trump for a presidential candidate, he also has to come to grips with the comments of Sen. Mark Kirk regarding a veteran and what that means for his vote for the Illinois senate.

Still probably not enough to get him to come to realization his only party of choice is an unAmerican mess.

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gocart mozart Oct 28, 2016 • 9:53:49am

RIP @vine. Here’s my favorite one, by @alispagnola — Comedic timing is FLAWLESS. Subtle camera tilt is perfect. https://t.co/tYRDVkHRv2

— BigSpoopy! (@BigAngryPlays) October 28, 2016

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gocart mozart Oct 28, 2016 • 9:56:02am

Best video you will see all year:

Guy dresses up as dogs favorite toy pic.twitter.com/lF9GHSoMbT

— Jeff Spiegel (@JSpiegel2) October 28, 2016

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ObserverArt Oct 28, 2016 • 9:58:49am

Since there is some talk about music ongoing, and I mentioned the new Pretenders album early in the thread…here is one of their new tunes.

New Pretenders album! ‘Alone’
Released 21 Oct 2016. Produced by Dan Auerbach of the Black Keys.

You can hear Dan Auerbach’s (Black Keys) influences. Still love Chrissie’s voice.

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 9:59:05am

You are still a deplorable asshole, Kirk.

Sincere apologies to an American hero, Tammy Duckworth, and gratitude for her family’s service. #ilsen

— Mark Kirk (@MarkKirk) October 28, 2016

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 9:59:56am

Ugh

A former Virginia resident has been charged with felony voter registration fraud after prosecutors say he fabricated voter registration forms by “inventing” false applicants, officials announced Friday.

Vafalay Massaquoi, 30, a former resident of Alexandria, is accused of fabricating records this spring while working for an unnamed voter registration advocacy group, according to Alexandria Commonwealth’s Attorney Bryan L. Porter. The applications were filed with the Alexandria registrar’s office, which forwarded the matter to prosecutors for review.

Massaquoi was arrested in early October in Philadelphia, extradited to Alexandria on Thursday and arraigned in court Friday. He faces two felony counts of forging a public record and two felony counts of voter registration fraud, each carrying a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison.

richmond.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:01:07am

JUST IN: Hillary Clinton to make campaign stop in Phoenix Nov. 2 >> https://t.co/iJiKsFADv5 pic.twitter.com/GIrRda8Yq9

— TucsonNewsNow (@TucsonNewsNow) October 28, 2016

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Eventual Carrion Oct 28, 2016 • 10:01:17am

re: #482 Dr. Matt

Texas Quietly Prepares To Pass New Rules Requiring Doctors To Bury or Cremate Fetal Remains

So when can we begin buying life insurance policies that pay out due to miscarriage and the like to pay for these “funerals”?

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 10:02:32am

No, there’s nothing political about this:

NBC News: FBI re-opening investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server

— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) October 28, 2016

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The FBI is essentially being forced to reopen the case, trying to find anything that might tip the scale in favor of Trump, or failing that, cripple Clinton’s presidency even before it begins.

GOP has tried to take Clinton and Obama down for years with nothing but smears. This wont go any better @jasoninthehouse

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 28, 2016

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Jenner7 Oct 28, 2016 • 10:03:03am

Are you fucking kidding me?!?!

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 10:05:46am

re: #499 Timothy Watson

Ugh

richmond.com

Sounds like he was ripping off his employing group. I really want to know who he was working for. Volunteer-driven Dems typically do not have to pay mercenary registration workers.

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 10:06:07am

re: #502 lawhawk

In a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Friday, FBI Director James Comey wrote that the agency is investigating additional emails that were discovered as part of a separate investigation.

“In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation … I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation,” he wrote.

nbcnews.com

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EPR-radar Oct 28, 2016 • 10:06:27am

This is why a (D) POTUS should not appoint Republicans to any important positions. They simply cannot be trusted to do their jobs.

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Stanley Sea Oct 28, 2016 • 10:06:42am

re: #477 Barefoot Grin

That’s so sad. It is a deep read about both alcoholism and the path Frey forged as a young female reporter fearlessly going into locker rooms to get her story.

Coincidentally, on the alcohol abuse thing, I’ve been listening to and am right now listening to The Replacements of the Bob Stinson era. I read a few articles last night about Bob and the band’s problems, but how Bob in particular couldn’t stop drinking even as lost everything.

Glad you read it. Heartbreaking. She was dealt the double whammy of bi-polar & alcoholism.

She was a badass when she was up.

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William Lewis Oct 28, 2016 • 10:06:43am

re: #497 ObserverArt

Since there is some talk about music ongoing, and I mentioned the new Pretenders album early in the thread…here is one of their new tunes.

New Pretenders album! ‘Alone’
Released 21 Oct 2016. Produced by Dan Auerbach of the Black Keys.

You can hear Dan Auerbach’s (Black Keys) influences. Still love Chrissie’s voice.

[Embedded content]

Video

Beautiful. Thank you for posting this.

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gocart mozart Oct 28, 2016 • 10:07:00am

Neolib sellout Noam Chomsky https://t.co/awNtWqGS0G pic.twitter.com/Z8kusNnkIz

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 10:07:31am

re: #502 lawhawk

No, there’s nothing political about this:

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What kind of bullshiite is this?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Oct 28, 2016 • 10:09:08am

re: #491 lawhawk

Further stigmatizing women who lose pregnancies due to miscarriage or are forced to abort due to medical complications.

Reminding women that they are just brood mares whose uteri belong to society.

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Decatur Deb Oct 28, 2016 • 10:10:16am

re: #510 Sir John Barron

What kind of bullshiite is this?

They got nothin’ else.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 10:14:16am

So Drumpf can run around the country for a week yelling that “You can’t elect as president someone who’s under investigation”, excepting the investigations of Trump U and all the rest.

Jeebus.

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Jenner7 Oct 28, 2016 • 10:15:06am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

Doesn’t matter.

It looks bad.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:15:07am

re: #509 gocart mozart

OK, that made me dislike Chomsky a little bit less.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:15:44am

re: #502 lawhawk

Seriously MSNBC? Going right to Rep. Steve King for his opinion on new FBI comment? He’s not biased at all, right?

— Laffy (@GottaLaff) October 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 10:15:56am

re: #513 Sir John Barron

So Drumpf can run around the country for a week yelling that “You can’t elect as president someone who’s under investigation”, excepting the investigations of Trump U and all the rest.

Jeebus.

Another fishing expedition. Completely irresponsible.

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ObserverArt Oct 28, 2016 • 10:16:19am

re: #502 lawhawk

No, there’s nothing political about this:

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The FBI is essentially being forced to reopen the case, trying to find anything that might tip the scale in favor of Trump, or failing that, cripple Clinton’s presidency even before it begins.

Well, fuck this shit. They will sell this as “you just can’t trust Clinton” while it opens a chance for a known danger to get back in the running.

Fucking Republicans are making a total mess of this country all for protecting their masters income and power.

And our “liberal” media helps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:18:03am

re: #505 Timothy Watson

nbcnews.com

the letter:

FBI Dir Comey letter to congressional committee chairs re discovery of “new emails…pertinent to the investigation” pic.twitter.com/y4gvHiILLn

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) October 28, 2016

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 10:18:38am

Oh no, more emails!! Whatever shall we do?!!!

I’m pretty sure most people will respond with “Did they run out of things to do?”

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William Lewis Oct 28, 2016 • 10:19:06am

re: #515 Nyet

OK, that made me dislike Chomsky a little bit less.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing after I read that. Hope it wasn’t just a busted clock moment, though that’s probably the case. Still, a nice moment of sanity.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 10:19:15am

re: #519 Backwoods_Sleuth

the letter:

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3 months later they can come back and say, eh, we didn’t find anything meaningful. Sorry we helped elect Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:21:21am

Josh on the latest FBI statement:

I need a fucking drink.

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) October 28, 2016

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:22:54am

re: #519 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know it could have consequences, but this doesn’t look too menacing and there’s no time left for anything major to happen, IMHO. No panic, no desperation.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 10:22:58am

Trump calls today’s economic report dismal.

The GDP grew 2.9%, and Trump calls that dismal. Well, considering that Trump needs several times that rate to make any of his dynamically scored attempts to redistribute wealth to the rich from everyone else, he needs all the growth we haven’t seen in decades.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:23:14am

NOTE: The actual letter from Comey says very little. (h/t @frankthorp) —> pic.twitter.com/oUWN9B4PVu

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) October 28, 2016

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Yeah y’all might need to chill a bit. “FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant” https://t.co/9W1UV0C7kH

— Christopher Ingraham (@_cingraham) October 28, 2016

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I have zero faith that anyone will handle this responsibly https://t.co/dEd9BRKPws

— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) October 28, 2016

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 10:23:44am

re: #519 Backwoods_Sleuth

the letter:

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Except that doesn’t say the investigation is reopened, they’re just reviewing e-mails of an unspecified number that may been found on some government system somewhere.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 10:24:03am

re: #526 Backwoods_Sleuth

Redacted

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:24:26am

A huge unanswered question: What is the “unrelated case” that the FBI is referring to, by which they have come across more Clinton emails?

— Matt Viser (@mviser) October 28, 2016

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I’m betting it’s Podesta’s risotto recipe…

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:24:57am

re: #527 Timothy Watson

Except that doesn’t say the investigation is reopened, they’re just reviewing e-mails of an unspecified number that may been found on some government system somewhere.

Exactly. *Even* if there’s there there, we’ll know after Clinton is President Elect.

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Stanley Sea Oct 28, 2016 • 10:25:07am

I have a former Bernie Bro friend who is completely losing his shit over Hillary (he’s already voted for her)

Can’t wait for the losing his mind text I’m about to receive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:25:18am

re: #527 Timothy Watson

Except that doesn’t say the investigation is reopened, they’re just reviewing e-mails of an unspecified number that may been found on some government system somewhere.

exactly

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 10:25:36am

re: #529 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m betting it’s Podesta’s risotto recipe…

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It’s his cookie recipe, which he stole from Martha Stewart, who in turn stole it from Tiffany’s.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 10:25:36am

What we have learned is that there is no good reason to appoint Republicans to any Executive or Judicial Positions in Government. Democrats needs to simply appoint Democrats now.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:25:58am

It may tighten the race somewhat, but I don’t see it being a losing factor.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:27:45am

re: #534 Ziggy_TARDIS

What we have learned is that there is no good reason to appoint Republicans to any Executive or Judicial Positions in Government. Democrats needs to simply appoint Democrats now.

We agree on this. But I suspect even Hillary will throw a bone or two to them, for the “bipartisanship’s” sake (making sure they’re not lit fuses).

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 10:28:08am

re: #536 Nyet

I don’t think any bones need to be thrown.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:28:46am

Plus people have promised that there are further October surprises in store for Trump.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:29:24am

re: #537 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yes, you said that in #534.

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EPR-radar Oct 28, 2016 • 10:29:27am

re: #534 Ziggy_TARDIS

What we have learned is that there is no good reason to appoint Republicans to any Executive or Judicial Positions in Government. Democrats needs to simply appoint Democrats now.

A Democrat appointing a Republican is like the frog giving the scorpion a ride across the river.

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wrenchwench Oct 28, 2016 • 10:29:39am

Just got honked at by a grown ass man driving down a busy multi lane street. Jeopardizing people’s safety to street harass isn’t sexy, bro.

— Katie Klabusich (@Katie_Speak) October 28, 2016

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The other day a cat-calling dude in a wheelchair yelled, “Damn girl, you gon’ make me walk TODAY!” I almost fell out. I can’t w/ these men. https://t.co/qbDLc98GNo

— Raquel Willis (@RaquelWillis_) October 28, 2016

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 10:29:46am

The thing is, a Democratic head would probably have done the same thing. About the only thing he or she would have done differently is not made that asinine press conference after the last investigation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:30:31am

Fun fact: No Democrat has ever served as Director of the FBI.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 28, 2016

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 10:31:15am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

And if the GOP retains control in the Senate, count on that streak remaining alive.

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EPR-radar Oct 28, 2016 • 10:31:28am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s something that needs to be changed.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 10:32:06am

During the 9/11 Commission, a number of the Commissioners thought that the FBI needed to be broken up into 2 organizations, one to handle Terrorism and similar, and another to deal with Interstate/Organized crime.

I think Clinton will need to look into this.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 10:33:44am

re: #526 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Right, but Trump and the “liberal media” will now not shutup for the next 11 days about her emails.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:33:57am

Dropping a letter full of portent but lacking any information 10 days before the election seems like a wild abuse of power, but ymmv.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 28, 2016

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It’s insane. He at least owes the country a press briefing - anything more than a vague letter. https://t.co/NyGhbcILOO

— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) October 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 10:34:30am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I thought Louie Freeh was a Dem. A conservative Dem, but a Dem nonetheless.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:34:39am

Comey needs to provide full info immediately. Otherwise he has clearly made a partisan intervention, betraying his office.

— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) October 28, 2016

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:34:49am

re: #547 Sir John Barron

Comey’s letter contains so little that they won’t be able to chew on this for so long.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:36:35am

those damned fire marshals are at it again:

The fire marshal here at the Manchester, NH Trump event shut the doors of the Radisson after 1,600 people came in. People are still outside. pic.twitter.com/eZ3RmHY291

— David Martosko (@dmartosko) October 28, 2016

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No Depression Oct 28, 2016 • 10:36:45am

Meh, we’ll shortly find out about some other horrible thing Trump’s done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:37:19am

A great day in our campaign just got even better. FBI reviewing new emails in Clinton probe @CNNPolitics https://t.co/WBltG2lAK6

— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) October 28, 2016

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First response from Trump camp. Trump to speak in NH momentarily. https://t.co/sCnY2mehcw

— Scott Detrow (@scottdetrow) October 28, 2016

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:38:07am

re: #553 No Depression

Meh, we’ll shortly find out about some other horrible thing Trump’s done.

I think so too.

The emails thing has the benefit of being boring.

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Jay C Oct 28, 2016 • 10:38:52am

re: #551 Nyet

Comey’s letter contains so little that they won’t be able to chew on this for so long.

Little or not, it still contains material for the main themes the Republicans and the media can run with:

HILLARY E-MAILS!
FBI!
INVESTIGATION!!!

With any real analysis left as an afterthought, if that….

PS: Why would Comey be “forced” to investigate this stuff - forced by who? And why publish the letter? My other question was “why now”?, but that’s obvious (IMO).

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:39:06am

@StephenBaldwin7 @andersoncooper
If our father were alive today… he’d smack you in the side of the head for supporting Donald Trump.

— Billy Baldwin (@BillyBaldwin) October 11, 2016

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Interesting Times Oct 28, 2016 • 10:39:36am

re: #551 Nyet

Comey’s letter contains so little that they won’t be able to chew on this for so long.

As if that will stop GOP enablers like Morning Joke. Plus, it leaves YUUUUUGE license for the usual suspects to make shit up, throw it to the wall, and see what sticks (of course, they do that anyway, but now they have renewed grain-of-truth ammunition)

As per the Krugman tweet above, I wonder if this is Comey’s last-ditch attempt to help GOPers salvage their Senate majority.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:40:20am

re: #556 Jay C

I know, wingnuts will be running with this for the rest of the season, but IMHO that will change little.

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blueraven Oct 28, 2016 • 10:40:55am

re: #551 Nyet

Comey’s letter contains so little that they won’t be able to chew on this for so long.

This is why the speculation will be insane. Can you imagine the CNN panels with half being Trump surrogates? I am tuning out.

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No Depression Oct 28, 2016 • 10:41:15am

This email shit is gonna be annoying as hell, but there’s only 11 days left. Thank God.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:42:52am

re: #560 blueraven

This is why the speculation will be insane. Can you imagine the CNN panels with half being Trump surrogates? I am tuning out.

In the first few days. This cow will probably be out of milk in one week… Unless Comey does make a more detailed statement that would insinuate that something is amiss even more strongly.

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Interesting Times Oct 28, 2016 • 10:42:54am

re: #561 No Depression

This email shit is gonna be annoying as hell, but there’s only 11 days left. Thank God.

Oh hai Clinton campaign, now would be a GREAT time to dump that explosive oppo research you’re allegedly keeping in reserve…

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Oct 28, 2016 • 10:43:01am

and here we go, Trump calling for Hillary’s head and saying everything but what the memo to congress actually said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:43:02am

Trump in NH: I need to open with a very critical breaking news announcement (cheers)

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) October 28, 2016

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Donald Trump now discussing re-opened #FBI probe of Hillary Clinton emails; crowd in Manchester, NH chanting “LOCK HER UP!”

— Celeste Katz (@CelesteKatzNYC) October 28, 2016

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I. AM. SHOCKED.

not…

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:43:10am

re: #561 No Depression

This email shit is gonna be annoying as hell, but there’s only 11 days left. Thank God.

Thankfully, also happened after the debates.

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blueraven Oct 28, 2016 • 10:43:31am

OMG Trump is talking about this now saying the FBI will correct previous decisions made. Crowd is delirious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:43:50am

Trump in NH: “They are reopening the case into her criminal and illegal conduct.”

— John McCormick (@McCormickJohn) October 28, 2016

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Oct 28, 2016 • 10:44:07am

re: #567 blueraven

OMG Trump is talking about this now Saying the FBI will correct previous decisions made. Crowd is delirious.

yeah.

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William Lewis Oct 28, 2016 • 10:44:08am

re: #561 No Depression

This email shit is gonna be annoying as hell, but there’s only 11 days left. Thank God.

Yeah right. You’ll get fund raising emails on Nov 9 for 2018 _&_ 2020.

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Jay C Oct 28, 2016 • 10:44:25am

re: #558 Interesting Times

As per the Krugman tweet above, I wonder if this is Comey’s last-ditch attempt to help GOPers salvage their Senate majority.

And as an add-on to my #556 : if it CAN be proven that this stuff was merely politically-motivated, Comey should start looking for alternative employment opportunities some time in late January. The Director of as important and agency as the FBI ought not to get involved in partisan political hackery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:44:32am

Steve Bannon with a big ole grin as Trump breaks news to the crowd in #NH about the FBI reopening email investigation. pic.twitter.com/UgfN4Xu6Gx

— Dalton Bennett (@DDaltonBennett) October 28, 2016

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plansbandc Oct 28, 2016 • 10:44:51am

The pearl-clutching on twitter is ridiculous. Gonna have to stay off it for awhile.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:45:01am

Trump parrots Chaffetz line that FBI is “reopening” Clinton email probe @ NH rally, claims investigation was “grave miscarriage of justice”

— Catherine Thompson (@KT_thomps) October 28, 2016

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Stanley Sea Oct 28, 2016 • 10:45:26am

re: #560 blueraven

This is why the speculation will be insane. Can you imagine the CNN panels with half being Trump surrogates? I am tuning out.

I switched to HGTV.

Fuck it

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:46:21am

re: #572 Backwoods_Sleuth

He can go all Schadenfreude he wants, that won’t help to win an election…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:46:41am

Trump in NH: “I have great respect that the FBI and the Dept. of Justice are now willing to have the courage to right the horrible mistake”

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) October 28, 2016

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 10:46:43am

re: #571 Jay C

FBI heads have a history of doing that.

Freeh was often making a show about opposing Clinton, and being a technophobe.

I think the FBI needs to be broken up.

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Jenner7 Oct 28, 2016 • 10:47:05am

Law enforcement sources tell @evanperez newly discovered emails not related to WikiLeaks or Clinton Fndtn. They wouldn’t describe content

— Noah Gray (@NoahGrayCNN) October 28, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Oct 28, 2016 • 10:47:20am

Concerning the release of Comey’s memo: TGIF.

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plansbandc Oct 28, 2016 • 10:47:27am

Huffington Post isn’t helping matters at all.

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ObserverArt Oct 28, 2016 • 10:47:52am

re: #551 Nyet

Comey’s letter contains so little that they won’t be able to chew on this for so long.

This is just the kind of hint that could cause an already close race in my home state of Ohio being closer than need be. I don’t want her to lose Ohio, we have helped get Obama in and I really do want to see us help get Clinton in as the first female president.

The FBI has felt pressured since the day they held their presser saying there would be no indictments. Then we had the congressional clown show and Jason Chaffetz eyes got real big when he said “”Do you need a referral from Congress” to continue down the investigative road, now looking for a perjury charge.

This could very well be Comey tossing a bone to Chaffetz and gang to get his own name back in their good graces. He may not be considering the timing, but it sure is questionable.

Where was this intense digging and investigation into the Iraq war and the Bush administration. Oh wait…that only costs thousands of lives and billions of dollars and kept this country in a mess for close to 15 years.

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No Depression Oct 28, 2016 • 10:47:57am

re: #572 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eh, I say let him and his fellow deplorables bask in this a little bit. It’ll make their tears on November 8 taste that much sweeter.

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Jenner7 Oct 28, 2016 • 10:49:38am

Trump: “The system might not be as rigged as I thought.”

— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) October 28, 2016

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Sweet Jesus, this country is fucked.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:49:42am

Basically the verdict for today: it sucks but the sky is not falling :)

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Interesting Times Oct 28, 2016 • 10:49:49am

re: #576 Nyet

He can go all Schadenfreude he wants, that won’t help to win an election…

Not to sound tinfoil-hattish, but is there a possibility the “newly discovered emails” could be some ratfucking fakes planted by Putin somehow?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:50:33am

Trump: “The system might not be as rigged as I thought.”

— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) October 28, 2016

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Evidence that Trump has been BSing everyone. The “system is rigged” only if it hurts his campaign. https://t.co/DvtC1S9QZj

— Laffy (@GottaLaff) October 28, 2016

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:51:04am

re: #586 Interesting Times

Not to sound tinfoil-hattish, but is there a possibility the “newly discovered emails” could be some ratfucking fakes planted by Putin somehow?

Everything is possible…

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No Depression Oct 28, 2016 • 10:51:14am

re: #586 Interesting Times

Not to sound tinfoil-hattish, but is there a possibility the “newly discovered emails” could be some ratfucking fakes planted by Putin somehow?

FBI says the new emails aren’t related to WikiLeaks, FWIW.

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 10:51:28am

re: #578 Ziggy_TARDIS

FBI heads have a history of doing that.

Freeh was often making a show about opposing Clinton, and being a technophobe.

I think the FBI needs to be broken up.

Both of which would 1) be departments under the president, and 2) would be in charge of investigating and law enforcement. It would not change anything happening right now.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Oct 28, 2016 • 10:52:04am

re: #529 Backwoods_Sleuthhe

So let me get this straight-an unrelated case is causing Comey to re-open the closed case against Hillary. This is to eerily like what happened to The Big Dog back in the 90s.

This smells like Comey is trying to throw the election to Trump as its most visceral level.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 10:52:37am

We saw this with the reports of who was behind the hacking and now with the FBI reopening HRC email investigation @realDonaldTrump

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 28, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:53:12am

In other news:

At tonight’s World Series game at Wrigley Field, Billy Williams is throwing first pitch & Bill Murray is singing Take Me Out to the Ballgame

— Joe Sonka (@joesonka) October 28, 2016

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Jenner7 Oct 28, 2016 • 10:53:16am

Why is FBI doing this just 11 days before the election?

— JohnCornyn (@JohnCornyn) October 28, 2016

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Republican senator: https://t.co/P82KBHO9Ov

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 28, 2016

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 28, 2016 • 10:53:20am

“I was going to vote for Clinton, but now that emails are back, I’m going to vote for the dumb, rapey sociopath” - no one right now.

— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) October 28, 2016

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 10:53:47am

re: #591 Eric The Fruit Bat

It looks like it too.

Comey needs to be forced to resign.

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No Depression Oct 28, 2016 • 10:53:51am

re: #591 Eric The Fruit Bat

he

So let me get this straight-an unrelated case is causing Comey to re-open the closed case against Hillary. This is to eerily like what happened to The Big Dog back in the 90s.

This smells like Comey is trying to throw the election to Trump as its most visceral level.

He can try, but it’s a little late now as people are already voting.

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gocart mozart Oct 28, 2016 • 10:53:58am

Carl Perkins w/ Eric Clapton, Ringo Starr - Matchbox - 9/9/1985 - Capitol Theatre (Official)

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 10:54:18am

If the FBI has not “assessed” the nature of the newly found emails, why send a letter to Congress saying anything about them?

Anyway, I was already feeling very anxious about this election, more anxious than I should be, and now this. Good grief.

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 10:54:20am

re: #591 Eric The Fruit Bat

he

So let me get this straight-an unrelated case is causing Comey to re-open the closed case against Hillary. This is to eerily like what happened to The Big Dog back in the 90s.

This smells like Comey is trying to throw the election to Trump as its most visceral level.

I’d suggest Hillary needs to find a new FBI Director after she’s sworn in.

The wingnuts will scream, of course. Let them - no one cares.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 10:54:26am

@rudepundit You vastly underestimate the idiocy of the American People.

— Richard Wierengo (@The_War_TARDIS) October 28, 2016

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 10:54:37am

So, now he has great respect for DOJ and FBI, when hours earlier he could have said that they were a joke not to be trusted @JenniferJJacobs

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 28, 2016

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 10:55:37am

re: #599 Sir John Barron

Hey, I feel the same way.

If Trump wins, how do I live, where do I go, as an European-American Convert to Islam with Autism.

That is why I am so stressed and vicious these days.

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 28, 2016 • 10:55:54am

FFS

Trump: “This is bigger than Watergate. This is bigger than Watergate, in my opinion.” https://t.co/J54RiABFFl pic.twitter.com/rDPpOKNdzs

— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 28, 2016

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Interesting Times Oct 28, 2016 • 10:56:03am

re: #591 Eric The Fruit Bat

So let me get this straight-an unrelated case is causing Comey to re-open the closed case against Hillary. This is to eerily like what happened to The Big Dog back in the 90s.

This smells like Comey is trying to throw the election to Trump as its most visceral level.

To me, it feels more like he’s trying to throw a bone to downballot GOPers in close races: durr hurr, vote for them and we PROMISE impeachment!!1!11

Which in turn is all the more reason for Dems to turn out and vote those obstructionist creeps the fuck out of office.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 10:56:12am

re: #595 The Vicious Babushka

Right on.

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 28, 2016 • 10:57:25am

re: #603 Ziggy_TARDIS

Hey, I feel the same way.

If Trump wins, how do I live, where do I go, as an European-American Convert to Islam with Autism.

That is why I am so stressed and vicious these days.

Calm the fuck down.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Oct 28, 2016 • 10:57:30am

This simply goes hand-in-hand with the promise by GOP Congressjerks that Clinton will be investigated beginning on Day 1, or possibly before.

Ugh. Because I needed more reason to worry about this fucking election. I think it’s time to start tuning stuff out.

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 10:57:40am

re: #601 Ziggy_TARDIS

You’re overestimating the impact “emails” is having on the public.

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blueraven Oct 28, 2016 • 10:58:08am

re: #591 Eric The Fruit Bat

he

So let me get this straight-an unrelated case is causing Comey to re-open the closed case against Hillary. This is to eerily like what happened to The Big Dog back in the 90s.

This smells like Comey is trying to throw the election to Trump as its most visceral level.

He didnt say he was going to re-open the case.

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 10:58:45am

re: #608 A wild WITHAK appeared!

This simply goes hand-in-hand with the promise by GOP Congressjerks that Clinton will be investigated beginning on Day 1, or possibly before.

Ugh. Because I needed more reason to worry about this fucking election. I think it’s time to start tuning stuff out.

Then you can be like the average voter.

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No Depression Oct 28, 2016 • 10:58:55am

re: #601 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Don’t panic. Vote.

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 10:59:13am

re: #609 Belafon

You’re overestimating the impact “emails” is having on the public.

And the fact that it was part of a Friday afternoon newsdump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 10:59:26am

re: #604 The Vicious Babushka

FFS

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“This is bigger than Watergate.” _ Trump in #Manchester #NH

— Lisa Mascaro (@LisaMascaro) October 28, 2016

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During Watergate, the president fired the people investigating him. So, no, this isn’t bigger than Watergate. https://t.co/x7ysiWjFSQ

— Jonathan Allen (@jonallendc) October 28, 2016

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Oct 28, 2016 • 10:59:38am

re: #613 Timothy Watson

And the fact that it was part of a Friday afternoon newsdump.

This is also quite telling.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 11:00:09am

re: #609 Belafon

H.L. Mencken

No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 11:00:10am

On the other hand, some news sources, such as CBS, are already walking back the “reopening investigation” talk, which Hillary can use to her advantage.

The whole thing is really just stupid.

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Dr. Matt Oct 28, 2016 • 11:00:20am

WATCH: Trump calls one of his own black supporters a ‘thug’ and tosses him out of rally

Iframe

Please proceed, Orange Führer.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 11:00:32am

re: #612 No Depression

Already did. On Monday.

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Jay C Oct 28, 2016 • 11:00:42am

re: #578 Ziggy_TARDIS

FBI heads have a history of doing that.

Freeh was often making a show about opposing Clinton, and being a technophobe.

I think the FBI needs to be broken up.

Yeah, kind of a notable flaw in The System: the FBI Director can indulge in any and all sorts of partisan-driven political nonsense; but always has the out to retreat into the (usually bogus) screen of “non-partisan justice” or whatever. And (since the charge of partisan bias might be confirmed by calling a Director out on their BS) little can be done about it.

Funny how these “investigations” seem to usually target Democrats?

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blueraven Oct 28, 2016 • 11:00:46am

re: #610 blueraven

He didnt say he was going to re-open the case.

Comey needs to make a statement clarifying exactly what is going on.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 11:00:57am

re: #614 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is likely to be yet another nothingburger from the email controversy. Wont stop the GOP from turning this into Watergate Part 2.

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 28, 2016

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That was a prediction with 100% chance of success.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 11:01:41am

re: #615 A wild WITHAK appeared!

If evidence can be found of collusion between Comey and the Republicans, could he be thrown in Prison?

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 11:02:07am

re: #616 Ziggy_TARDIS

Which is why Bernie is the Democratic nominee.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 11:02:13am

Just want to get through the next 10 days. I care not for any threats Chaffetz, Cruz et al may make about “investigations” and SCOTUS appointees and the like. If the Dems win the Senate, none of that will matter.

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Franklin Oct 28, 2016 • 11:02:40am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

You are still a deplorable asshole, Kirk.

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lawhawk Oct 28, 2016 • 11:02:43am

re: #624 Belafon

Which is why Bernie is the Democratic nominee.

HA Goodman couldn’t be reached for comment. He was too busy writing up articles of impeachment.

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 11:02:48am

re: #623 Ziggy_TARDIS

If evidence can be found of collusion between Comey and the Republicans, could he be thrown in Prison?

Didn’t Comey pretty much tell the Senate committee to screw-off while testifying?

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 11:02:49am

re: #617 Sir John Barron

On the other hand, some news sources, such as CBS, are already walking back the “reopening investigation” talk, which Hillary can use to her advantage.

The whole thing is really just stupid.

See, good if true. Will dissipate in a few days. (Except with Trump, but he’s preaching to the insane clown posse).

I hope Krugman et al.’s suggestion for a Comey presser is not taken seriously. They’re not thinking tactically. Presser = prolongation of the news cycle.

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No Depression Oct 28, 2016 • 11:02:55am

re: #619 Ziggy_TARDIS

Already did. On Monday.

Good. You’ve done your part.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Oct 28, 2016 • 11:02:56am

re: #623 Ziggy_TARDIS

I have no idea. Ask a law-talkin’ guy. Conveniently, we have a few here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 28, 2016 • 11:03:01am

Comey refused to even tell Congress if FBI was investigating Trump camp for Russia hack, but regular updates on Clinton are apparently A-ok.

— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) October 28, 2016

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ObserverArt Oct 28, 2016 • 11:03:06am

re: #606 Nyet

Right on.

“Said no one” is a stretch. In this country as ignorant as our voter base is, I would not be so naive to make that statement or accept it.

To be determined…

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Belafon Oct 28, 2016 • 11:03:08am

Is Charles going to have to institute a 24 hour no comment rule on this site?

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Kragar Oct 28, 2016 • 11:03:35am

Trump voters: “THE INVESTIGATION IS REOPEN!”
Clinton voters: “No, its not.”
Undecideds: “I know they’re bad, but lead paint chips are yummy”

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 28, 2016

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 11:03:59am

re: #620 Jay C

This is institutional history going all the way back to Hoover. And the FBI simply fucked up with 9/11.

I think the FBI needs to be disbanded and broken into three pieces. One that deals with normal interstate and organized crime, one that is an American analogue to MI5, and one that deals exclusively crimes that deal with the Native American Reservations.

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Dr Lizardo Oct 28, 2016 • 11:04:45am

re: #629 Nyet

See, good if true. Will dissipate in a few days. (Except with Trump, but he’s preaching to the insane clown posse).

I hope Krugman et al.’s suggestion for a Comey presser is not taken seriously. They’re not thinking tactically. Presser = prolongation of the news cycle.

Hey, now, no reason to insult Jugaloos like that.

*heh*

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ObserverArt Oct 28, 2016 • 11:04:46am

re: #608 A wild WITHAK appeared!

This simply goes hand-in-hand with the promise by GOP Congressjerks that Clinton will be investigated beginning on Day 1, or possibly before.

Ugh. Because I needed more reason to worry about this fucking election. I think it’s time to start tuning stuff out.

I have watched less “news” in the last three weeks than ever. It’s good though, I am catching up on more and more music…and sports.

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Timothy Watson Oct 28, 2016 • 11:04:48am

re: #632 Backwoods_Sleuth

Comey refused to even tell Congress if FBI was investigating Trump camp for Russia hack, but regular updates on Clinton are apparently A-ok.

He had testified under oath, it would be a really stupid to not notify Congress in writing if one of the facts that he testified to changed after the fact.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 11:05:13am

re: #618 Dr. Matt

That mob would be soooo shining if they had Dragonscale.

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Lidane Oct 28, 2016 • 11:06:19am

If Trump wins because of this stupidity, then the fallout is directly on Comey’s head.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Oct 28, 2016 • 11:06:43am

Jennifer Rubin is not buying the story apparently.

@WaPoSean @MaxBoot when Comey announces there is nothing new it will go back to being rigged

— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 28, 2016

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William Lewis Oct 28, 2016 • 11:06:54am

re: #619 Ziggy_TARDIS

Already did. On Monday.

Good. Now, the only thing you need to really do is simply encourage the people you know in daily life to do the same.

Relax. Deep breath. Hold it as long as you can. Let it go. Relax.

Then go and talk calmly to the people you know.

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Jenner7 Oct 28, 2016 • 11:07:24am

Never has a candidate been thoroughly been vetted, released an unprecedented amount of emails, health records, taxes, and foundation documents, hacked by Russians to reveal normal campaign workings….

and be seen as the most deceptive and secretive politician.

There are different rules for Hillary Clinton.

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Sir John Barron Oct 28, 2016 • 11:07:47am

re: #642 Ziggy_TARDIS

Jennifer Rubin is not buying the story apparently.

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Team Trump has already lost JRube.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 11:08:22am

re: #633 ObserverArt

People that dumb are voting Trump no matter what.

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gocart mozart Oct 28, 2016 • 11:12:41am

‘Shark Tank’ star: Trump inspected my breasts @CNNPolitics https://t.co/UULtLVdKK3

— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) October 28, 2016

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Tigger2 Oct 28, 2016 • 11:14:03am

re: #502 lawhawk

No, there’s nothing political about this:

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ObserverArt Oct 28, 2016 • 11:15:29am

re: #646 Nyet

People that dumb are voting Trump no matter what.

I am speaking of the fence riders of which there are some out there. Enough to to mess with Florida, Ohio and maybe some other states.

Call them dumb in general, not specifically dumb Trumpers.

It could prevent the complete Trump ass-whipping that is very much needed.

Also, if the election remains close it just gives the scum at the bottom of that conservative deplorable basket more idea they are close to getting a president by being conservative enough.

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Nyet Oct 28, 2016 • 11:16:59am

re: #649 ObserverArt

Gotcha, and I do want a landslide, but I think the winner of the election won’t be determined by that stinkbomb, only possibly the scale of the win.

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