Video: Samantha Bee Is Feelin’ Alt-Right

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Readers of Little Green Footballs are very familiar with the so-called “alt-right” — an innocuous sounding term for some of the worst people in the country. We’ve been covering the rise of this movement of white supremacists, antisemites and racists for years, and now the hate machine has gone into overdrive with the candidacy of Donald Trump.

Samantha Bee is the woman we need to take a close look at these freaks, and subject them to the mockery and derision they so richly deserve.

(The video above is a two-part playlist, with the full segment from her show.)

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1
I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:09:44am

I need a drink. This election season is going to kill my liver.

2
Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:12:30am

Meanwhile, the FBI just released documents from an investigation into Bill Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich that was closed in 2005.

What the fuck is going on.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:12:54am

Reposting from downstairs….

Yes, the “Green” Party has Endorsed Trump Over Clinton

The Green Party’s presidential candidate, Jill Stein, posted today on Facebook a link to an “Open Letter from the Social Media Director of the Stein/Baraka Campaign,” by someone whose name was given only as “Jillian.” The message reads:

…A Clinton presidency is D A N G E R O U S … If a Trump presidency would mean that we have to fight ignorants in the streets—I’m ready for that. “

Assholes. Nothing else can be said at this point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:16:19am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the FBI just released documents from an investigation into Bill Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich that was closed in 2005.

What the fuck is going on.

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Reposting a couple observations from downstairs:

@FBIRecordsVault account has 131 tweets since joining twitter in November 2011.
In addition to today’s tweet, 20 of those 131 tweets were made on Sunday.
Last tweet before that was October 8, 2015.

Weirdly eclectic tweet dump on Sunday.
All sorts of policy guidelines (including ethics and integrity policy guide) and then files about 2015 protests in Baltimore, Petraeus investigation, Hillary R. Clinton as SoS, Nikola Tesla (!), and Fred C. Trump.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:16:34am
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Joe Bacon  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:16:46am

GREEN = Getting Republicans Elected Every November.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:17:46am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I am at the Hillary campaign in Dallas. I could easily go to the Dallas Field Office and complain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:18:59am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:19:36am

re: #7 Ziggy_TARDIS

I am at the Hillary campaign in Dallas. I could easily go to the Dallas Field Office and complain.

Don’t do that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:20:58am

re: #3 Dr. Matt

Reposting from downstairs….

Yes, the “Green” Party has Endorsed Trump Over Clinton

Assholes. Nothing else can be said at this point.

Well, yeah, because Jill & her shills won’t be the ones who do any of the actual fighting in the streets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:21:39am
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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:23:28am

re: #3 Dr. Matt

Reposting from downstairs….

Yes, the “Green” Party has Endorsed Trump Over Clinton

Assholes. Nothing else can be said at this point.

Sorry, moonbats, this crocodile will eat you first.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:23:59am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:24:00am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fed agencies do not answer FOIA requests by tweet.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:24:55am

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

Well, yeah, because Jill & her shills won’t be the ones who do any of the actual fighting in the streets.

They’d need to be wearing brown pants to hide what they’d really do if confronted by the consequences of their ignorance.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:25:26am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

FBI seems be trying to subvert the election.

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wrenchwench  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:25:48am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

[riverwalker35]

That’s right up there with those reporting on racism being ‘the real racists’.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:29:01am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

What the fuck is going on.

Every American should be asking this question. This is truly unprecedented at this point. A major Law Enforcement agency is trying to influence the a presidential election.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:29:04am

I’m well aware that LGF had a reputation as a right wing site in the past, but I’m never going to agree that there was anything “alt-right” about it. I banned anyone who spouted racism or white supremacism or antisemitism on the spot. Always.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:30:42am

CNN on the obamacare ‘price hike’

most Obamacare participants won’t feel the full price hike or anything near it

enrollees can also use their subsidies to buy lower-priced bronze or silver plans. That will allow more than three-fourths of current enrollees to pick a plan for $100 or less a month on the federal healthcare.gov exchange

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b.d.  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:31:09am

re: #16 Ziggy_TARDIS

FBI seems be trying to subvert the election.

HRC should clean out the FBI bigly on her 1st day. The GOP is going to whine about everything anyways, they’ve been crying wolf for so long that normal people can’t even hear them anymore.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:31:09am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

And I recall that you instituted registration so as to make banning permanent and thwarting socks from trying to re-register to pollute the threads. You wanted nothing to do with the extremists and even recruited a couple of monitors to help weed out the extremists.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:31:55am

re: #20 dangerman

CNN on the obamacare ‘price hike’

If it weren’t for half-truths, the Republicans would have no truth at all.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:32:39am

re: #16 Ziggy_TARDIS

FBI seems be trying to subvert the election.

Trump is correct for once: It’s time to *investigate* the investigators.

Where the hell is the checks and balances? Where is the DOJ, Inspector General, etc?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:33:10am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

NBC News: The release of WJC FBI files was sent by the FOIA office under normal guidelines. A proper requested was made -Pete Williams rpts.
— Tom Winter

And the release couldn’t have been delayed until November 9? It had to be released today?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:33:27am

one of the tweets dumped on Sunday:

Small suggestion: maybe the FBI should actually read it.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:34:06am

re: #20 dangerman

Let’s go with the car equivalent. The new 2017 model is now $500 more than the old version MSRP, but with dealer incentives and rebates (the ACA subsidies), you’ll likely pay about what you did this year or slightly more (and you have health care coverage!).

It’s the insurance companies that get a whole lot more money in the end, since they requested (and got) higher premiums to cover the marketplace policies.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:34:50am

re: #23 Decatur Deb

If it weren’t for half-truths, the Republicans would have no truth at all.

+1 for the Albert king

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:35:41am

I’m tempted to post about this FBI document dump, but I’m putting it on hold to see if some kind of valid reason for it emerges.

It looks dirty as shit, though.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:35:52am

“….President Obama should fire James Comey. He should do so not because of the political consequences of Comey’s actions — although those consequences could be quite severe — but because Comey’s actions show an unacceptable disregard for the safeguards that exist to protect innocents from the awesome power of a federal police force.”

……

“…As Gorelick and Thompson explain, DOJ policy exists to “avoid misuse of prosecutorial power by creating unfair innuendo to which an accused party cannot properly respond.” The New Yorker’s Jane Meyer quotes an unnamed former senior Justice Department official making a similar point. A disclosure like the one Comey made on Friday “impugns the integrity and reputation of the candidate, even though there’s no finding by a court, or in this instance even an indictment.”

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:36:29am

re: #24 Dr. Matt

Trump is correct for once: It’s time to investigator the investigators.

Where the hell is the checks and balances? Where is the DOJ, Inspector General, etc?

The problem is as with most actions is someone can do something ..say commit a crime…way faster than it can be stopped or investigated

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:37:20am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:38:41am

re: #22 lawhawk

And I recall that you instituted registration so as to make banning permanent and thwarting socks from trying to re-register to pollute the threads. You wanted nothing to do with the extremists and even recruited a couple of monitors to help weed out the extremists.

Exactly. One of the main reasons for creating the registration system was to stop this kind of abusive person from getting around the inadequate IP blocks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:38:55am

THIS FUCKING IDIOT==>

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:39:04am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the FBI just released documents from an investigation into Bill Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich that was closed in 2005.

What the fuck is going on.

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No kiddin posted that downstairs, so I was already working up a Page rather critical of the FBI, suff from deliberately before the election. Excerpts from eight Pages I pulled thanks to the dashboard. Now pretty much irrelevant.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:39:30am

re: #27 lawhawk

Let’s go with the car equivalent. The new 2017 model is now $500 more than the old version MSRP, but with dealer incentives and rebates (the ACA subsidies), you’ll likely pay about what you did this year or slightly more (and you have health care coverage!).

It’s the insurance companies that get a whole lot more money in the end, since they requested (and got) higher premiums to cover the marketplace policies.

Yup. Spot on.
What’s the ” out of my pocket” difference.
But that doesn’t make a good story

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:40:31am

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

*posts Baghdad Bob saying NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM meme*

//you know that’s next

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:40:33am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I’ve seen some tweets suggesting that this was a FOIA request, which could make sense. The timing, to say the least, is hinky.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:40:36am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:40:54am

re: #37 Pawn of the Oppressor

*posts Baghdad Bob saying NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM meme*

//you know that’s next

I blocked that moron.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:41:08am

After watching the Rusty Russkie, Admiral Kuznetzov, belch its way around the ocean, I thought this might be a nice change of pace:

Color footage of HMS Hood and other Royal Navy ships in 1939.

HMS Hood and other ships in color!

Note the relatively modest smoke output from Hood’s 1916-designed engines, as well as the paddle-wheel tugs, and the aircraft carrier Argus in the distance at one point.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:41:56am

re: #38 lawhawk

I’ve seen some tweets suggesting that this was a FOIA request, which could make sense. The timing, to say the least, is hinky.

FOIA could be complied with after the election as far as I know. At least not within the 60 days before the election.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:43:37am

On a side note, I just noticed that my MS Outlook Calendar says today is Election Day. Expect Microsoft to send a 4 GB update this evening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:43:47am

re: #38 lawhawk

I’ve seen some tweets suggesting that this was a FOIA request, which could make sense. The timing, to say the least, is hinky.

but as has been mentioned, since when does the FBI tweet FOIA requests? And if the FOIA excuse is valid, why weren’t there any since October 2015 then all of a sudden 20 weird ones dumped on Sunday before this one today?

It all stinks.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:44:33am

Definitely is worrying about what’s going on. Agree that Comey needs to go.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:45:52am
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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:47:05am

re: #38 lawhawk

I’ve seen some tweets suggesting that this was a FOIA request, which could make sense. The timing, to say the least, is hinky.

They release FOIA materials via Twitter? Seems weird.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:47:31am
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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:47:50am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the FBI just released documents from an investigation into Bill Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich that was closed in 2005.

What the fuck is going on.

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It would appear that there is no love lost between the Clintons and the FBI. I wonder if someone there resents the scorched earth response to the Comey letter. Seems plausible. I thought on Friday, and from what I heard from spokes people on Friday, was that this was just something they’d let blow over by Monday and not try to stoke the flames with overreaction.

Now it appears shit-stirring is the way to go. Hillary-Twitter has been calling for Comey’s head since Saturday, downthread I noted someone who used to sound rational implying the FBI is in cahoots with the Russians…I mean what the fuck kind of response is that supposed to elicit?

I think it would be a good idea to take a deep breath, talk about jobs, the economy, the environment, soft fucking puppies - ANYTHING - and not spend the last week before an election feeding red meat to the Right.

But what do I know? I’ve seen a few more FBI tweets about cold shit, so my guess is someone’s getting fired before the end of the day over there. And each of those deserves a full frontal response.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:48:29am

re: #30 jaunte

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……

He didn’t even have a fucking warrant when he sent the letter…

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:49:48am

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

I blocked that moron.

So you didn’t see the Canadian call him an idiot?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:49:58am
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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:50:04am

re: #49 darthstar

I wonder if someone there resents the scorched earth response to the Comey letter.

No Comey letter, no scorched earth. Simple.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:50:34am

re: #50 Mike Lamb

He didn’t even have a fucking warrant when he sent the letter…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:51:43am

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Definitely is worrying about what’s going on. Agree that Comey needs to go.

at the very least he has no control over his agency

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:52:13am

re: #55 Sir John Barron

at the very least he has no control over his agency

Right.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:52:32am

Comey will be unemployed by this time next Wednesday.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:52:39am

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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and our media loves talking about bad optics. maybe they can talk about these bad optics.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:53:21am
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:53:38am

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel

The Hood ultimately was sunk during the battle with the Bismarck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:53:43am

re: #57 GlutenFreeJesus

Comey will be unemployed by this time next Wednesday.

And will have a book deal in the wings.

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piratedan  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:54:04am

Apparently we’re reaching the stage where no matter what the profession, the GOP will always place Party over Country.

Patriots indeed, it’s just that their allegiance isn’t to a country.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:55:00am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:55:03am

re: #51 b_sharp

So you didn’t see the Canadian call him an idiot?

You weren’t the only Canadian to call him an idiot.

BTW there are MOAR IDIOTS who are insisting that Trudeau was dressed up as a Muslim. I am just blocking them now.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:55:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:55:20am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:55:37am

re: #60 lawhawk

The Hood ultimately was sunk during the battle with the Bismarck.

Wasn’t the HMS Hood the ship pretty much literally blown to pieces by the Bismarck?

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Thanos  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:55:43am

re: #49 darthstar

It would appear that there is no love lost between the Clintons and the FBI. I wonder if someone there resents the scorched earth response to the Comey letter. Seems plausible. I thought on Friday, and from what I heard from spokes people on Friday, was that this was just something they’d let blow over by Monday and not try to stoke the flames with overreaction.

Now it appears shit-stirring is the way to go. Hillary-Twitter has been calling for Comey’s head since Saturday, downthread I noted someone who used to sound rational implying the FBI is in cahoots with the Russians…I mean what the fuck kind of response is that supposed to elicit?

I think it would be a good idea to take a deep breath, talk about jobs, the economy, the environment, soft fucking puppies - ANYTHING - and not spend the last week before an election feeding red meat to the Right.

But what do I know? I’ve seen a few more FBI tweets about cold shit, so my guess is someone’s getting fired before the end of the day over there. And each of those deserves a full frontal response.

I don’t think the FBI is doing Russia’s bidding however there are both clean cut old school Mormon types, and old school white power guys in the FBI.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:56:57am

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

HMS Hood exploding.

A huge jet of flame burst out of Hood from the vicinity of the mainmast,[Note 1] followed by a devastating magazine explosion that destroyed the aft part of the ship. This explosion broke the back of Hood, and the last sight of the ship, which sank in only three minutes, was her bow, nearly vertical in the water.[66] A note on a survivor’s sketch in the British RN Historical Branch Archives gives 63°20′N 31°50′W as the position of the sinking.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:57:00am

re: #65 gocart mozart

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Somehow I don’t think shariah devoutees are big Halloween fans either but I’m not a right wing moron either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:58:15am
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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:58:27am

re: #49 darthstar

Again…no one came close to implying that the FBI was “in cahoots” with Russia.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:58:34am

re: #65 gocart mozart

Is he actually that dumb, or just trolling?

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:59:02am

re: #60 lawhawk

The Hood ultimately was sunk during the battle with the Bismarck.

Split in half.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:59:03am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:00:01pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Santorum is down with anyone who hates choice and gays like he does.

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:00:39pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

You weren’t the only Canadian to call him an idiot.

BTW there are MOAR IDIOTS who are insisting that Trudeau was dressed up as a Muslim. I am just blocking them now.

They can’t tell the difference between a fantasy concept of Arabic dress and reality. No wonder they’re always confused.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:01:47pm
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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:01:55pm

re: #69 Kilroy was here

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Video

Hit right between the stacks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:03:19pm

LOL!

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Thanos  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:05:23pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL!

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Of course he wants Inquisitor Issa back in place.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:06:50pm

re: #53 makeitstop

No Comey letter, no scorched earth. Simple.

They drew first blood, not me!

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:06:53pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

A very good man who was a car thief in his earlier days? Yeah, this is totally in line with Trump’s notion of “good people” he surrounds himself with.

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Thanos  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:07:27pm

re: #78 gocart mozart

That’s quite evil. Now I”m picturing Eddie Murphy with earphones on…

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lockjawcanbefun  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:09:05pm

So going to hell for this:

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:09:17pm

re: #82 darthstar

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I think the Clinton campaign is way past the point of letting themselves get buffaloed, whether it be by Trump or Comey.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:09:18pm

AAAAIIIIIEEEE!!!! TEH SHARIA LAW!!!11!! WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!!!!!

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:09:34pm

But for the lies and smears, it was a great speech. It was also wholly without any basis in reality, but he gave great delivery.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:10:01pm

FBI Data Dump: Donald J. Trump, Billionaire, owns a mansion and yacht. Very great man. Bigly.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:10:51pm

re: #72 Mike Lamb

Again…no one came close to implying that the FBI was “in cahoots” with Russia.

I disagree. Granted, this guy’s not an official member of the Clinton campaign, but this kind of rhetoric is all over the place right now. It’s embarrassing to watch.

@armandodkos
Seriously tho, the FBI is so filled with Hillary Derangement they’ll protect Putin. Enemy of my enemy stuff.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:11:18pm

Fox news helpfully instructing their viewers that the problem is NOT the head of a federal law enforcement bureau interfering with an election.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:12:30pm

re: #91 jaunte

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Fox news helpfully instructing their viewers that the problem is NOT the head of a federal law enforcement bureau interfering with an election.

Gee maybe because Comey fucked up Fox, something even many Republicans agree with but nice try.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:13:38pm

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

This year’s Starbucks holiday cups are green, not red, and meant to be a “symbol of unity” during a “divisive time” money.cnn.com pic.twitter.com
— CNN (@CNN) November 1, 2016

Conservative pOutrage FLASHBACK:

Today in Pointless Conservative Christian Self-Martyrdom, Joshua Feuerstein & Starbucks Cups

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:14:14pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Always funny to see Fox news (constantly advertising in ADWEEK that they have the HUGEST audience ever) pretending that everyone else is the “mainstream media.”

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:14:20pm

re: #90 darthstar

I disagree. Granted, this guy’s not an official member of the Clinton campaign, but this kind of rhetoric is all over the place right now. It’s embarrassing to watch.

I’ll repeat myself from the previous thread on this tweet:

Think the point is that Comey isn’t explicitly helping Putin or being on his payroll, but rather being a useful idiot that’s inadvertently doing Putin’s work in dogging on the Hillary email hunt to the point his FBI is giving ‘real time updates’ on the case.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:16:15pm

re: #88 lawhawk

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But for the lies and smears, it was a great speech. It was also wholly without any basis in reality, but he gave great delivery.

Cillizza has always leaned right, but he’s just a complete clown at this point. “A very, VERY good speech?” $&@*$#

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:16:36pm

re: #94 jaunte

Always funny to see Fox news (constantly advertising in ADWEEK that they have the HUGEST audience ever) pretending that everyone else is the “mainstream media.”

Yeah they love to brag about their big audience but insist they’re not part of the msm.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:16:36pm

re: #94 jaunte

Always funny to see Fox news (constantly advertising in ADWEEK that they have the HUGEST audience ever) pretending that everyone else is the “mainstream media.”

Also, too: that there haven’t been some Republicans and conservatives who have also found Comey’s actions highly questionable.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:17:11pm

re: #98 Sir John Barron

Also, too: that there haven’t been some Republicans and conservatives who have also found Comey’s actions highly questionable.

A lot including Republicans who have served in the DOJ.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:17:30pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Cillizza has always leaned right, but he’s just a complete clown at this point. “A very, VERY good speech?” $&@*$#

Think he’s doing tryouts for Fox News at this rate.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:17:33pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Cillizza has always leaned right, but he’s just a complete clown at this point. “A very, VERY good speech?” $&@*$#

If Drumpf doesn’t vomit all over himself The Fix thinks he’s given a great speech.

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:18:28pm

re: #49 darthstar

It would appear that there is no love lost between the Clintons and the FBI. I wonder if someone there resents the scorched earth response to the Comey letter. Seems plausible. I thought on Friday, and from what I heard from spokes people on Friday, was that this was just something they’d let blow over by Monday and not try to stoke the flames with overreaction.

Now it appears shit-stirring is the way to go. Hillary-Twitter has been calling for Comey’s head since Saturday, downthread I noted someone who used to sound rational implying the FBI is in cahoots with the Russians…I mean what the fuck kind of response is that supposed to elicit?

I think it would be a good idea to take a deep breath, talk about jobs, the economy, the environment, soft fucking puppies - ANYTHING - and not spend the last week before an election feeding red meat to the Right.

But what do I know? I’ve seen a few more FBI tweets about cold shit, so my guess is someone’s getting fired before the end of the day over there. And each of those deserves a full frontal response.

How about the FBI stay the fuck out of politics? Hillary has a right to fight back, but I guess some people want her to STFU and STFD like a good girl.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:18:47pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:19:11pm
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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:19:59pm

re: #86 makeitstop

I think the Clinton campaign is way past the point of letting themselves get buffaloed, whether it be by Trump or Comey.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:20:33pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Cillizza has always leaned right, but he’s just a complete clown at this point. “A very, VERY good speech?” $&@*$#

Every Trump speech, ever:

1. Repeats himself 2 or 3 times.
2. Can’t complete a sentence.
3. OK, OK, OK?
4. Incredible!
5. Tremendous!
6. A disaster!
7. I gotta tell ya.
8. Take it from me.
9. Trust me.
10. BELIEVE ME.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:22:31pm

re: #95 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Fair enough (didn’t see that downthread). I don’t think her most ardent Twitter supporters are that subtle right now. Another one, whom I like and agree with on a regular basis, wrote a tweet about Weiner being the ‘kind of creep’ who would secretly copy Huma’s email onto his computer. We’re talking Republican level conspiracy shit right now. And as I said, it’s embarrasssing to watch.

Democrats used to have the cooler heads.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:23:44pm

I’ve seen a couple of Trump fans say “hey! one of those files is Fred C. Trump, so the FBI is being fair!”

Fred C. Trump (1905-1999) was a real estate developer and philanthropist. This release consists of references dated from 1966 and 1991 to Mr. Trump from FBI files.

The 1966 reference is actually a newspaper article in reference to Donald and Fred’s donations to NYC politicians, resulting in a call for campaign finance reform.
The rest is a list of Fred’s property interests between 1963 and 1988.
The page dated April 24, 1991 is pretty much redacted.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:24:43pm

re: #102 blueraven

How about the FBI stay the fuck out of politics? Hillary has a right to fight back, but I guess some people want her to STFU and STFD like a good girl.

Right. We covered this ground right after the convention, IIRC.

Ignore the attacks and be positive. And smile!
/

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:25:00pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve seen a couple of Trump fans say “hey! one of those files is Fred C. Trump, so the FBI is being fair!”

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The 1966 reference is actually a newspaper article in reference to Donald and Fred’s donations to NYC politicians, resulting in a call for campaign finance reform.
The rest is a list of Fred’s property interests between 1963 and 1988.
The page dated April 24, 1991 is pretty much redacted.

Yeah, that’s a token.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:27:27pm

re: #105 darthstar

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I just don’t see much value in turning the other cheek at this point in the campaign.

It was the response that drove the ultimate framing of the Comey story IMO. Where would the Clinton campaign be right now if they’d just shrugged off the story and let the media run amok with speculation?

Maybe that ABC poll wouldn’t be an outlier today.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:27:59pm

and as a palate cleanser, also from TBogg:

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John Carter  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:28:41pm

re: #111 makeitstop

I just don’t see much value in turning the other cheek at this point in the campaign.

It was the response that drove the ultimate framing of the Comey story IMO. Where would the Clinton campaign be right now if they’d just shrugged off the story and let the media run amok with speculation?

Maybe that ABC poll wouldn’t be an outlier today.

John Kerry turned the other cheek.

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Thanos  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:29:43pm

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

You bet this will make an O’Reilly segment before Christmas.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:31:18pm

If Trump and Pence get their hands on the Executive, George W. Bush’s era will be the Good Old Days. Scorch all these mofos and their earth.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:33:03pm
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Thanos  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:33:13pm
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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:33:16pm

The fucking Trumper in my fucking office

I’m taking a few days off next week.

“Well, make sure you coordinate a back up.”

“I am. There are only three of us in the office, and I was under the impression that we’re all there to back each other off. I know I’ve covered for you more than a few times.”

“Well, I’m not going to be your designated backup! I’ve got things to do!”

“We all have things to do, which is why we’re all supposed to be backing each other up.”

“I don’t see why you’re so upset about this.”

I walked away at that point.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:33:58pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:35:04pm

Kentucky has such archaic voter laws, I wish it would just institute early voting. I went to the clerk’s office yesterday because I’m having surgery Friday, and I’m supposed to stay home recuperating for a week. There are voting machines right there to use, but only if you will be out of the county on Tuesday. Since I will be home, they are mailing me a ballot instead of letting me use the voting machines sitting right there!

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:35:24pm

So, today’s big Trump news is that he’s going to repeal Obamacare and he’ll do it in a special session of Congress.

This is the same thing that Ryan and the rest of the GOP have been trying for the past 7 years. This isn’t anything new, let alone anything coherent. It’s GOP doctrine that Obamacare must be repealed and replaced, even though the GOP has no alternative in place. Ryan’s had years to craft a replacement. He doesn’t have one.

He has nothing to score or to reveal to the public mostly because his own GOP caucus can’t agree on what to do beyond repealing Obamacare.

They can’t agree on whether to keep the elimination of preexisting conditions clauses, enabling cross-state purchases, or anything else that the GOP has bandied about for years.

But this also reveals that Trump doesn’t get what Congress does, and his mention of a special session to handle this shows he doesn’t know or care - or that he thinks special session sounds better or classier to his rubes/marks.

Any way you cut it, the GOP is gunning to eliminate health care insurance coverage to millions of Americans because they can’t abide by keeping Obamacare. They aren’t interested in fixing notable issues with it, and instead are keen on destroying it and replacing with vaporware. Everyone should be wary of this.

This speech wasn’t great. This was the same recycled and rehashed nonsense Trump’s spewed (and the GOP has followed) for years.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:37:31pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rapist endorses Arsonist

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:37:41pm

80° right now in Columbus Ohio on November 1st. Unbelievable.

But not as unbelievable as the suddenly acting out FBI.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:40:02pm

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Kentucky has such archaic voter laws, I wish it would just institute early voting. I went to the clerk’s office yesterday because I’m having surgery Friday, and I’m supposed to stay home recuperating for a week. There are voting machines right there to use, but only if you will be out of the county on Tuesday. Since I will be home, they are mailing me a ballot instead of letting me use the voting machines sitting right there!

My county let me use the absentee voting machine at the county clerk’s office when my arm was broken last year, even though I’d still be in-county on Election Day. But, as I said the other day, my county clerk isn’t all anal about stuff like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:41:46pm

re: #123 ObserverArt

80° right now in Columbus Ohio on November 1st. Unbelievable.

But not as unbelievable as the suddenly acting out FBI.

Cincinnati already hit 81F (a new record for this date) and still climbing.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:41:48pm

re: #60 lawhawk

The Hood ultimately was sunk during the battle with the Bismarck.

Since I could identify the Argus on sight and knew that the Hood’s engines were designed in 1916, it might be apparent that I knew that as well.

The Hood was a victim of its own reputation and status in many ways. Within the fleet, the Hood had always been under suspicion as a “tinclad” that sacrificed armor for speed. It was the largest warship in the world when commissioned in 1920, but it took a hell of a big and heavy power-plant to generate 144,000 horsepower in those days. Scheduled, and badly needed, modernization had been repeatedly delayed and had still not been carried out by the time of the Denmark Strait battle. Before the war, this was mainly because of the expense, and the demand for the Hood as a flag-showing prestige vessel.
A major rebuild was scheduled to correct the various defects, but operational requirements dictated more delays after the war broke out.
The Bismark was only slightly larger and had about the same speed and similar main armament but benefited from later technology throughout. In particular, its much lighter but more powerful machinery allowed it to be much more heavily armored.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:42:36pm

re: #111 makeitstop

I just don’t see much value in turning the other cheek at this point in the campaign.

It was the response that drove the ultimate framing of the Comey story IMO. Where would the Clinton campaign be right now if they’d just shrugged off the story and let the media run amok with speculation?

Maybe that ABC poll wouldn’t be an outlier today.

I’m making a WWOD? bracelet and sending it to President Clinton when she’s in office.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:43:04pm

I haz a sad. LOL no I don’t. Sux 2B Steve.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:43:33pm

So, the latest ABC poll has Drumpfskind up by 1 point.

Big change from 2 weeks ago.

I wonder how effective the FBI has been?

Silver will point out that polls often narrow closer to election day.

Doesn’t give me great comfort.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:46:30pm

Someone needs to tell The New Yorker that Halloween was yesterday:

Instagram

Donald Trump attacking reporters during a town hall interview hosted by MSNBC in Charleston, South Carolina in February 2016. Trump can make more faces in a minute than most people make in a lifetime. Photo by @markpetersonpixs #politicaltheatre #donaldtrump #phiotography #politics #reduxpictures

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:47:25pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel

Since I could identify the Argus on sight and knew that the Hood’s engines were designed in 1916, it might be apparent that I knew that as well.

The Hood was a victim of its own reputation and status in many ways. Within the fleet, the Hood had always been under suspicion as a “tinclad” that sacrificed armor for speed. It was the largest warship in the world when commissioned in 1920, but it took a hell of a big and heavy power-plant to generate 144,000 horsepower in those days. Scheduled, and badly needed, modernization had been repeatedly delayed and had still not been carried out by the time of the Denmark Strait battle. Before the war, this was mainly because of the expense, and the demand for the Hood as a flag-showing prestige vessel.
A major rebuild was scheduled to correct the various defects, but operational requirements dictated more delays after the war broke out.
The Bismark was only slightly larger and had about the same speed and similar main armament but benefited from later technology throughout. In particular, its much lighter but more powerful machinery allowed it to be much more heavily armored.

Battle Cruisers were just a piss-poor idea from the get-go. Such large, expensive capital ships couldn’t be left out of the line of battle, where their superior speed was no use, and their lighter armor was fatal.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:47:35pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:49:21pm

We need organ music for headlines like this:

Comfort turns to suspense for Clinton

TheHill is a Republican-sympathetic organ, thus paragraphs like this:

Aside from fierce surrogate attacks on Comey, there’s little sign the Clinton campaign is changing its strategy since the FBI’s shocking news that it is looking at new emails related to its investigation of whether the former secretary of State improperly handled classified material.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:50:09pm

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

I can hear the screams of horror as Rightwingers fall on their Confederate-flagged fainting couches and clutch their fake pearls.

Christian Persecution!!
Fall of Western Civilization!!
Benghazi!!

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:51:45pm
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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:53:07pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:53:41pm

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:54:42pm

A few of my Muslim FB friends are panicking over polls from Google Customer Surveys showing Trump in the lead in FLA, NC, PA, and one other state. They are convinced that Trump will be the next President, and that the Donna Brazile and FBI leaks have done too much damage. Any rebuttals to that. I know they are there, but the sympathetic reaction is getting be stressed.

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:55:07pm

Now I have a headache.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:56:43pm

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

I haz a sad. LOL no I don’t. Sux 2B Steve.

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Private company Steve. Stop fucking crying and grow the fuck up.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:58:18pm
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Joe Bacon  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:58:34pm

re: #135 Kragar

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Did he stick an aspirin between his legs when he said that?

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:58:39pm

re: #131 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Battle Cruisers were just a piss-poor idea from the get-go. Such large, expensive capital ships couldn’t be left out of the line of battle, where their superior speed was no use, and their lighter armor was fatal.

The US Navy was fortunate to miss out on the battlecruiser fad. They got around to designing the Lexington class for construction in the 1920s, but the Washington Naval Treaty intervened in time to keep them from being completed as designed. The two that were furthest along, Lexington and Saratoga, were completed as aircraft carriers instead. This too was a lucky break since such large and powerful ships would not normally have been built as carriers in that period. Their availability at an early phase of naval aviation was a huge boost to the development of carrier operations and capability.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:59:04pm

re: #137 Frankie Five Angels

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Semper Fi  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:59:24pm

re: #139 b_sharp

Now I have a headache.

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There may be a parking lot camera that recorded the incident. False reports can be followed by consequences that are not good for anyone.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:59:24pm

re: #63 lawhawk

I did my part…$100 last night. Fuck this shit. If it can happen to someone as powerful as Hillary Clinton, the average Joe has absolutely no recourse against the Fucking Bureau of Intelligencia.

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Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:59:32pm

re: #139 b_sharp

You fucked up, IMO. Now her problem is yours.

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Alephnaught  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:59:34pm

re: #117 Thanos

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This story is more better known in the UK for the 1959 movie version of the West end musical version of the book, as it’s the one Cliff Richard and The Shadows movie that obtained an X-certificate at the time of release. (ie was halfway decent.)

Expresso Bongo (1959 - extract) | BFI DVD

By a strange coincidence, BBC4’s current run of old Top of the Pops episodes has come to summer 1982, whereupon Cliff appears with his latest” hit, ‘The Only Way Out”. “The only way is the only way in, and it’s you….” he sings, whist pointing upwards, hmmm….

Cliff Richard – The Only Way Out (Studio, TOTP)

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leftynyc  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:00:05pm

re: #138 Ziggy_TARDIS

A few of my Muslim FB friends are panicking over polls from Google Customer Surveys showing Trump in the lead in FLA, NC, PA, and one other state. They are convinced that Trump will be the next President, and that the Donna Brazile and FBI leaks have done too much damage. Any rebuttals to that. I know they are there, but the sympathetic reaction is getting be stressed.

Don the Con ahead in PA? They’re lying or being fed bad information.

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Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:01:30pm

re: #146 MsJ

You live in Canada, right?

I really envy you right now. It looks like the Putin connection goes to more people than just Trump.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:02:03pm
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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:02:11pm

re: #145 Semper Fi

There may be a parking lot camera that recorded the incident. False reports can be followed by consequences that are not good for anyone.

Indeed.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:04:12pm

re: #137 Frankie Five Angels

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bratwurst  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:05:24pm
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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:05:27pm

So Drumpfskind gives a speech yet again bashing the ACA without offering any real substitute.

Here is the biggest problem with the ACA - the “insurance” model of life is flawed.

Insurance as a concept works well when high-impact events are relatively rare on a per person basis.

But everyone needs healthcare sooner or later. And more often it is later in life, and the costs then are huge for life-threatening problems.

We’ve been over this many times. It is why I believe a socialized system of spreading around healthcare costs is the only real method, if one’s goals is to ensure that every American has access to necessary healthcare.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:07:20pm

re: #63 lawhawk

Monica Alba ✔ @albamonica
Clinton camp says it raised a “record-breaking” $11.3 million online in the last 72 hours (basically since the FBI story broke)
2:40 PM - 1 Nov 2016
117 117 Retweets 171 171 likes

I was one of those that kicked in a little. I thought I was done, but the FBI thing pissed me off…so I donated a little bit yesterday. Every little bit…helps I hope.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:08:10pm

re: #154 bratwurst

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People are freaking out over Starbucks cups again?!?!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:08:58pm

re: #154 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

Last year red was bad because…well, I can’t remember why. This year green is bad because…Islam, maybe? I can’t keep up. Aren’t Starbucks’ cups usually green?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:09:11pm

re: #138 Ziggy_TARDIS

A few of my Muslim FB friends are panicking over polls from Google Customer Surveys showing Trump in the lead in FLA, NC, PA, and one other state. They are convinced that Trump will be the next President, and that the Donna Brazile and FBI leaks have done too much damage. Any rebuttals to that. I know they are there, but the sympathetic reaction is getting be stressed.

Google Customer Surveys?

Tell them not to pay attention to such things.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:09:21pm

re: #153 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:09:37pm

re: #159 Sir John Barron

Google Customer Surveys?

Tell them not to pay attention to such things.

fivethirtyeight.com
This is also welcoming news.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:10:11pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Santorum is down with anyone who hates choice and gays like he does.

And blahs!

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:10:21pm

re: #159 Sir John Barron

I wrote up a short comment about the Google Customer survey poll, a few days ago.

Basically, I concluded the same as you.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:11:09pm

re: #155 freetoken

So Drumpfskind gives a speech yet again bashing the ACA without offering any real substitute.

Here is the biggest problem with the ACA - the “insurance” model of life is flawed.

Insurance as a concept works well when high-impact events are relatively rare on a per person basis.

But everyone needs healthcare sooner or later. And more often it is later in life, and the costs then are huge for life-threatening problems.

We’ve been over this many times. It is why I believe a socialized system of spreading around healthcare costs is the only real method, if one’s goals is to ensure that every American has access to necessary healthcare.

Yes, and not single-payer like Canada or Medicare, either. I believe single-provider like The UK or the VA is the only ethical system.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:11:40pm

re: #150 Skip Intro

You live in Canada, right?

I really envy you right now. It looks like the Putin connection goes to more people than just Trump.

Still an American through and through. This shit is killing me. Watching what the country I love is becoming, the hate, lies, deceit…it’s the saddest goddamned thing in the world.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:12:21pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Didn’t get a chance to read through the whole thread, but at least that tweet alerts people that the right wingers are thinking of a November surprise.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:12:46pm

I am actually surprised there haven’t been many Trump revelations in the past few days.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:12:51pm

re: #163 freetoken

I wrote this summary for them. Was it good?

In regards to these polls, you need to look at how other polls are behaving. And the fact of the matter is, these polls are outliers. They exist in any amount of statistics. It should also be noted that it is an online poll, which means there is a lot of self-selection, which can make the sample unrepresentative of the population.

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Thanos  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:13:38pm

re: #148 Alephnaught

It’s funny some friends and I were just listening and commenting on this video the other night: The Shadows - Apache (1960)

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:14:02pm

re: #160 Frankie Five Angels

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:14:05pm

re: #165 MsJ

Still an American through and through. This shit is killing me. Watching what the country I love is becoming, the hate, lies, deceit…it’s the saddest goddamned thing in the world.

I feel the same. I am Canadian but America is my home now and I hate to see it like this.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:14:49pm

re: #168 Ziggy_TARDIS

IIRC, Google Surveys has very uneven demographic responses state to state.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:15:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:15:41pm

re: #168 Ziggy_TARDIS

I wrote this summary for them. Was it good?

Yes. The key thing to look for polls is not outliers but trends. What gives me comfort about Clinton winning my state is she’s consistently not only led the state but within the margin of errior. As happy was I was to see that poll giving Clinton a double digit lead, I wasn’t sold on it since it was an outlier and then it proved itself by showing a big jump to Trump just this week. The truth is neither poll was probably accurate. Another thing you should tell your friends is Trump consistently did not overachieve in his poll standing in the primaries. Clinton meanwhile often did.

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KingKenrod  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:17:05pm

re: #151 Ziggy_TARDIS

Referred to this poll.

17% Undecided? Neither candidate gets over 40%? But these are likely voters?

Something not right.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:17:28pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

fivethirtyeight.com
This is also welcoming news.

The Early Vote In Nevada Suggests Clinton Might Beat Her Polls There

The Democratic candidate beats the national polls by used to be 2, last time it was >3 points—this is just an empirical fact that pollsters categorically refuse to correct for.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:18:18pm

re: #102 blueraven

How about the FBI stay the fuck out of politics? Hillary has a right to fight back, but I guess some people want her to STFU and STFD like a good girl.

None of this would have happened if Bernie was the Democrat candidate!

///

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:18:46pm

re: #176 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Democratic candidate beats the national polls by used to be 2, last time it was >3 points—this is just an empirical fact that pollsters categorically refuse to correct for.

And I have little doubt that Hillary will continue that trend. I understand why Nate and 538 want to consider every possibility I’m not particularly worried.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:19:08pm

ALL of those @FBIRecordsVault tweets on Sunday were dumped at 3 am Eastern.

curiouser and curiouser…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:19:40pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

ALL of those @FBIRecordsVault tweets on Sunday were dumped at 3 am Eastern.

curiouser and curiouser…

That is just so weird.

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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:19:51pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

fivethirtyeight.com
This is also welcoming news.

Also might suggest good things about AZ. Many polls have been quite close, so if the same issues exist in polling Latinos, it could be enough for Clinton to win the state.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:20:14pm

TV viewership numbers out for Monday cable.

Bill O’ is up to 4.2 million viewers.

He’s surging. Drumpfskind’s surging.

The apoplexy of America.

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leftynyc  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:20:18pm

re: #151 Ziggy_TARDIS

Referred to this poll.

I don’t see don the con ahead. Do you? I don’t even see where that refers to PA.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:20:18pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the FBI just released documents from an investigation into Bill Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich that was closed in 2005.

What the fuck is going on.

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Why should I not be viewing this action by the FBI as a backdoor coup-de-tat?

‘Cause that’s exactly what it fucking looks like: law enforcement, people with fucking badges and weapons, tapping the American electorate on the shoulder and saying “You sure you want to vote for Clinton?”

Fuck James Comey and anyone saying this isn’t an outright attempt to control the election by law enforcement.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:20:49pm

re: #181 Weaselone

Also might suggest good things about AZ. Many polls have been quite close, so if the same issues exist in polling Latinos, it could be enough for Clinton to win the state.

I was thinking the same thing about Florida as well.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:21:10pm

re: #183 leftynyc

It showed ahead on 538.

What the hell?

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:21:17pm

re: #107 darthstar

Fair enough (didn’t see that downthread). I don’t think her most ardent Twitter supporters are that subtle right now. Another one, whom I like and agree with on a regular basis, wrote a tweet about Weiner being the ‘kind of creep’ who would secretly copy Huma’s email onto his computer. We’re talking Republican level conspiracy shit right now. And as I said, it’s embarrasssing to watch.

Democrats used to have the cooler heads.

And those Democrats never faced the same kind of crap they are facing today…like the FBI putting a thumb on the damn election scale.

Time to get out of fantasy land.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:22:16pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:22:41pm

re: #139 b_sharp

Let her pay the full repair cost and keep the insurance (and thus the fake hit and run) out of it.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:23:04pm

re: #186 Ziggy_TARDIS

Wrong one.

Wait a minute, it has almost never shown her ahead in Florida.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:24:20pm

re: #190 Ziggy_TARDIS

Looking at all the battlegrounds, that seems to be the case.

Google seems to either have a hard Republican Lean, or is completely bonkers.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:24:49pm

re: #175 KingKenrod

17% Undecided? Neither candidate gets over 40%? But these are likely voters?

Something not right.

The Google Surveys for some reason have had really high undecided numbers. My guess is that it has something to do with methodology. As I understand it, most pollsters will try and push respondents to answer something other than undecided but won’t necessarily break those numbers out as “leaning”. It’s possible that Google isn’t doing that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:25:16pm

re: #186 Ziggy_TARDIS

It showed ahead on 538.

What the hell?

Just stop looking at polls for a few days.
And don’t go out of your way to look for new ones.

Take the advice given in #66 and forget about polls.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:25:25pm

re: #189 Jebediah, RBG

To b_sharp, too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:25:39pm

re: #129 freetoken

So, the latest ABC poll has Drumpfskind up by 1 point.

Big change from 2 weeks ago.

I wonder how effective the FBI has been?

Silver will point out that polls often narrow closer to election day.

Doesn’t give me great comfort.

I found this article stating that early voting indicates Clinton will probably win Nevada comforting. That is 6 electoral votes Trump will have a hard time replacing.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:26:47pm

re: #175 KingKenrod

17% Undecided? Neither candidate gets over 40%? But these are likely voters?

Something not right.

Maybe not. I’ve got a FB acquaintance wringing her hands as of Friday over who to vote for.

Listed some of Trump’s more repellent flaws, and then literally said this about Clinton: “I just don’t where we’ll go with her.”

Fuck these people.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:26:51pm

re: #192 KGxvi

Question 2:

Suppose the Presidential Election were held today. Who would you be more likely to vote for? If unsure, who are you leaning towards?

Options are:

Hillary Clinton

Donald Trump

Gary Johnson

Undecided

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:27:25pm

re: #195 Big Beautiful Door

I found this article stating that early voting indicates Clinton will probably win Nevada comforting. That is 6 electoral votes Trump will have a hard time replacing.

That gives me hope nationally and especially in states like Florida that has heavy Hispanic populations.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:27:51pm

re: #196 Mattand

Explain to her the threat Muslims and Hispanics face with him. If he wins, I don’t have a home.

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leftynyc  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:28:07pm

re: #190 Ziggy_TARDIS

Wrong one.

Wait a minute, it has almost never shown her ahead in Florida.

What you linked shows neither a lead for don the con nationally or in PA. Tell your friends to relax.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:28:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:28:30pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just stop looking at polls for a few days.
And don’t go out of your way to look for new ones.

Take the advice given in #66 and forget about polls.

I’d also suggest finding something else to do. As I said, treat yourself to a nice meal somewhere or a fun night on the town this weekend. It’s very easy to get caught up in something and have your anxiety go through the roof. Believe me, I know what anxiety is like.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:28:54pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:29:05pm

This is the Trump National Gold Club Family Of The Year
You’ll be so surprised!

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petesh  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:29:20pm

re: #169 Thanos

It’s funny some friends and I were just listening and commenting on this video the other night: [Embedded content]

Video

The Shadows ruled!

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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:29:23pm

re: #196 Mattand

Maybe not. I’ve got a FB acquaintance wringing her hands as of Friday over who to vote for.

Listed some of Trump’s more repellent flaws, and then literally said this about Clinton: “I just don’t where we’ll go with her.”

Fuck these people.

Seriously, this is not hard to conceive of. 4 more years of Obama. That’s what it will almost certainly look like.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:29:31pm

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

This is the Trump National Golf Club Family Of The Year
You’ll be so surprised!

[Embedded content]

Or not, since Kragar already posted it. :(

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leftynyc  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:29:36pm

re: #195 Big Beautiful Door

I found this article stating that early voting indicates Clinton will probably win Nevada comforting. That is 6 electoral votes Trump will have a hard time replacing.

I think if I were a Democrat in UT, I would vote for McMillan(sp?). He’s polling high enough that he could prevent donnie from getting those electoral votes.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:29:49pm

This is the kind of headline that if Drumpfskind was actually a skilled politician would propel him to victory:

Where Obamacare prices are rising dramatically

Of course if Drumpfskind was a skilled politician he wouldn’t be the hateful idiot that he is - he’s made far too many voters hate him.

Still, people vote their wallets, and if there was a Republican running who was less creepy, more honorable, and made their #1 priority to talk about healthcare, that Republican would likely win next week.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:29:51pm

re: #196 Mattand

Maybe not. I’ve got a FB acquaintance wringing her hands as of Friday over who to vote for.

Listed some of Trump’s more repellent flaws, and then literally said this about Clinton: “I just don’t where we’ll go with her.”

Fuck these people.

People like that frustrate me more than definite Trumpers.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:31:04pm

re: #203 Ziggy_TARDIS

Not sure about this poll.

Please. Just stop. You’re driving everyone here - as well as yourself - insane.

You are not helping anyone anywhere. Stop. Just stop.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:31:05pm

re: #137 Frankie Five Angels

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What I don’t get is how the Republicans are always saying they want to help small businesses. That is what some parts of the ACA helped, like no preexisting conditions, help with costs, which freed up people to work for themselves, etc.

They really only want to help big businesses which is why they want to revert to the old system.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:31:21pm

re: #196 Mattand

Actually, can I talk to her? Every vote counts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:31:48pm

re: #203 Ziggy_TARDIS

Not sure about this poll.

See my 202.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:31:54pm

re: #203 Ziggy_TARDIS

Not sure about this poll.

STOP LOOKING AT THEM!

(sorry for yelling, but really…stop looking at them)

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:31:57pm

re: #194 MsJ

Exactly. If not fucking up her license is important enough, she will find a way to pay the repair bill. Totally not worth it for b_sharp to get tangled up in any fraudulence.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:32:01pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

I’d also suggest finding something else to do. As I said, treat yourself to a nice meal somewhere or a fun night on the town this weekend. It’s very easy to get caught up in something and have your anxiety go through the roof. Believe me, I know what anxiety is like.

Yeah, this is good advice. As my last couple of posts indicate, I’m getting pretty wound up myself.

It’s not easy. The desire to keep on top of the situation will wear you down to a nub. I mentioned before, I’m in the same mindset as I was right after 9/11: endlessly clicking around the web, looking for any sort of good news.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:33:32pm

re: #139 b_sharp

Now I have a headache.

[Embedded content]

Can she help pay for it…you are helping her out. She needs to be responsible. Welcome to the adult world.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:34:06pm

re: #217 Mattand

Yeah, this is good advice. As my last couple of posts indicate, I’m getting pretty wound up myself.

It’s not easy. The desire to keep on top of the situation will wear you down to a nub. I mentioned before, I’m in the same mindset as I was right after 9/11: endlessly clicking around the web, looking for any sort of good news.

Anxiety has always been my worst enemy. It’s gotten a lot better the last month since I started on Lexapro but I still have those moments where I worry about something being out of place but being medicated has helped. It’s given me perspective that I didn’t have before. This is a stressful election no doubt about it but I have confidence that our fellow Americans will do the right thing next week.

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:34:16pm

re: #194 MsJ

To b_sharp, too.

[Embedded content]

Yup.

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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:34:55pm

re: #208 leftynyc

I think if I were a Democrat in UT, I would vote for McMillan(sp?). He’s polling high enough that he could prevent donnie from getting those electoral votes.

Nope. Clinton needs to hit 270. Denying Trump 270 so it’s a split decision isn’t going to help her.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:35:41pm

re: #213 Ziggy_TARDIS

Actually, can I talk to her? Every vote counts.

LOL, no offense, but I wouldn’t give Charles contact info for someone on my FB wall, let alone anyone else.

Look, Ms J. and HW are right: take a break. I’m getting ready to do that myself, and toss around the ball with the dog.

I and everyone else gets you’re worried, maybe more so because of your religion and the target it presents to conservatives. No one is insensitive to that.

But for your own well being, just finish what you’re doing and focus on something other then politics for a day or two.

EDIT: clarified religion comment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:35:44pm

re: #212 ObserverArt

What I don’t get is how the Republicans are always saying they want to help small businesses. That is what some parts of the ACA helped, like no preexisting conditions, help with costs, which freed up people to work for themselves, etc.

They really only want to help big businesses which is why they want to revert to the old system.

Exactly! There have been so many new small business startups since ACA was implemented because people could afford to quit their shitty jobs that they only kept so they could have (usually crappy) employer-provided health insurance (where employee portion of premiums kept climbing every year and employees had no say in who the insurance provider could be).

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:35:51pm
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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:36:04pm

re: #131 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Battle Cruisers were just a piss-poor idea from the get-go. Such large, expensive capital ships couldn’t be left out of the line of battle, where their superior speed was no use, and their lighter armor was fatal.

One the most amusing outcomes of The Washington Naval Treaties was that the US was forced to stop wasting money on BC’s and that the hulks became two aircraft carriers - Lexington and Saratoga - that taught the US Navy what they would need to know to win the next war in spite of the BB admirals.

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:36:51pm

re: #221 Weaselone

Nope. Clinton needs to hit 270. Denying Trump 270 so it’s a split decision isn’t going to help her.

Trump must be opposed. Voting third party instead of voting for Clinton is half-assing the job.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:37:22pm

re: #197 Ziggy_TARDIS

Question 2:

Suppose the Presidential Election were held today. Who would you be more likely to vote for? If unsure, who are you leaning towards?

Options are:

Hillary Clinton

Donald Trump

Gary Johnson

Undecided

Not so much the question as the procedure for asking it. Usually it’s “If the election were held today, who would you vote for?” And then if they say “undecided” there’s a follow up of “who are you leaning towards?”*

Either way, almost every Google poll I’ve seen has shown very high undecideds, which I find very strange.

*It’s been a very, very long time since I’ve studied polling methodology, so I may be misremembering.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:37:49pm

re: #222 Mattand

I’ll need to know I will have a home. :’(

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:38:35pm

PSA: I edited 222 because it was worded improperly.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:38:50pm

Speaking of health, this is scary:

6-year-old dies of mysterious polio-like illness

A 6-year-old boy from Bellingham, Washington, has died after falling ill from a mysterious polio-like illness that has affected seven other children in the state and dozens more across the country.

[…]

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:39:09pm
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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:40:02pm

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ll need to know I will have a home. :’(

I know. We’re worried, too. Trump is America’s Mussolini or Hitler. That’s obvious at this point.

Just take a break. For good or bad, both the election and the internet will be here when you get back.

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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:40:20pm

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ll need to know I will have a home. :’(

Polls won’t tell you that.

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wrenchwench  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:40:33pm

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ll need to know I will have a home. :’(

The Susan B. Anthony dollar in my watch pocket is working for me. Not as a home, of course, but as something to keep me from worrying about such things.

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:41:05pm

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ll need to know I will have a home. :’(

1) You won’t know this until election day.

2) No amount of your stressing out about the election will affect when the election is or its results.

So do yourself a big favor and stop obsessing over the polls and political news.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:41:06pm

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

This footage claims to show Democrats stuffing ballot boxes, but actually comes from Russian elections. pic.twitter.com
— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) November 1, 2016

[deplorable] The rigged media is lying! [/deplorable]

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:41:18pm

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

FFS Trump is not going to win.
Not.
Not.
Not.

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leftynyc  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:42:17pm

re: #221 Weaselone

Nope. Clinton needs to hit 270. Denying Trump 270 so it’s a split decision isn’t going to help her.

Disagree - Hillary will not win UT. But McMullan can take it away from donnie. His path is so narrow to 270, taking away those 4 (I think) EV helps.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:42:26pm

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ll need to know I will have a home. :’(

What you are doing has no bearing. The only thing you are doing is driving yourself and everyone else nuts.

Stop it.

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:42:42pm

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ll need to know I will have a home. :’(

You’re feeding your own anxiety.

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Interesting Times  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:42:57pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

Trump must be opposed. Voting third party instead of voting for Clinton is half-assing the job.

Indeed. I’ve been at my most depressed about this shitshow of an election today, mainly because I learned of a friend who did just that (she was always Never Trump, but also hates HRC. It looks like a lot of other Mormons feel the same way, though before McMullin became a factor, trump was still beating HRC in UT polls)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:43:25pm

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

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Again speaks to what I’ve been saying about how people just want to believe their idiotic confirmation biases. Wish people would just take a fucking clue already.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:44:22pm

re: #235 EPR-radar

So do yourself a big favor and stop obsessing over the polls and political news.

As noted earlier today, since last week I stopped watching cable news and quit checking 538, RealClearPolitics, Drudge, etc. My mood has drastically improved. I highly recommend everyone trying it.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:45:05pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

Trump must be opposed. Voting third party instead of voting for Clinton is half-assing the job.

Granted, it won’t happen because he’s a major party nominee, but Trump finishing third in the general election would be a fairly demoralizing defeat for the Deplorables.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:45:23pm

re: #237 Jebediah, RBG

FFS Trump is not going to win.
Not.
Not.
Not.

You don’t know that. Seriously, the odds are not in his favor, but this election is not a given and it is not over.

FFS, the fucking head of the goddamn FBI is essentially trying to sway this election by releasing quasi-negative statements about Clinton.

I’m not saying run around like it’s the apocalypse, but to say that Trump doesn’t have a chance is foolish.

I didn’t think America would be stupid enough to elect Bush in 2000. America proved me wrong. Twice.

There are far, far too many motivated racists in America right now to say that Trump won’t win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:46:02pm

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ll need to know I will have a home. :’(

Stop that, too.
It’s not gonna happen and you having continuous angst about it, is you just stressing yourself out over it. You keep doing that and guess what? Trump has already won, as far as you are concerned. And you are letting him do it.

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scottslemmons  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:46:13pm

It feels so weird right now. I’m far and away the most pessimistic person I know, and I’m not even a bit worried about this election. For months, the polls have shown Clinton with a gigantic advantage over Trump. I mean, the only people excited about him are neo-nazis, and the people who hate him are everyone else.

I’m worried about how the wingnuts will react after Trump loses, I’m worried about how hard the media is going to go to bat for him, I’m worried about how much crazier Congress is going to get. But I’m not worried about Clinton, ‘cause I’m pretty sure she’s going to win.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:46:18pm

re: #139 b_sharp

XGOHQYO1ArpgvdvesILtFqNtF0QeZ7UCtbHTtRMw73PVnPuH3q1jDHCGk0hxDo3DLx0k5uoNjmMT4vcmhC1opvWYyPwKlbbRtfOzeD6klhvI6dLX2vJk9yQsBZJ0t2VPJuksfOcfKmdL69kDS0BVpdvggS3Ogb+ayOltYIOjdRM9e/24W7Yjo7ucUp35zQhd

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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:46:47pm

re: #238 leftynyc

Disagree - Hillary will not win UT. But McMullan can take it away from donnie. His path is so narrow to 270, taking away those 4 (I think) EV helps.

We don’t need to deny the Frito Fuhrer 270. If Hillary doesn’t get 270, the Presidential election gets tossed to the House. Who do you think they are going to choose?

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:46:52pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

I’m well aware that LGF had a reputation as a right wing site in the past, but I’m never going to agree that there was anything “alt-right” about it. I banned anyone who spouted racism or white supremacism or antisemitism on the spot. Always.

It was neoconservative, more or less, and paleocons (which is the old word for alt-right) hate neoconservatism.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:47:41pm

I don’t know how to respond to this. Anyone have a suggestion?\

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:48:01pm
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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:49:22pm
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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:49:26pm

re: #245 Mattand

Even the PEC version of 270toWin:

270towin.com

… shows that Drumpfskind could win if he picked up the swing state of Iowa and flipped NC and FL.

That’s an unlikely event. But not impossible.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:50:20pm

re: #253 MsJ

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Assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:51:25pm

this sucks large (and some of the responses to the tweet are horrible).

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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:51:50pm

re: #254 freetoken

Even the PEC version of 270toWin:

270towin.com

… shows that Drumpfskind could win if he picked up the swing state of Iowa and flipped NC and FL.

That’s an unlikely event. But not impossible.

???? Even that’s not enough. Hillary can lose all three of those.???

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:52:04pm

re: #251 gocart mozart

I don’t know how to respond to this. Anyone have a suggestion?\

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Laugh.

Drink.

Get high.

Accept it might be a troll.

Post that “bang my head on the keyboard until explodes” GIF.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:53:39pm

re: #251 gocart mozart

I don’t know how to respond to this. Anyone have a suggestion?\

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Block it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:53:40pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

this sucks large (and some of the responses to the tweet are horrible).

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Typical NRA scare mongreling bullshit.

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leftynyc  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:54:10pm

re: #249 Weaselone

We don’t need to deny the Frito Fuhrer 270. If Hillary doesn’t get 270, the Presidential election gets tossed to the House. Who do you think they are going to choose?

Yes - we do need to deny him 270. The house would be under tremendous pressure to give the nod to the popular vote winner - which I suspect will be Hillary by a fairly large margin.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:54:13pm

re: #251 gocart mozart

I don’t know how to respond to this. Anyone have a suggestion?\

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You can’t engage in a battle of wits with someone who’s unarmed!

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:54:27pm

re: #257 Weaselone

???? Even that’s not enough. Hillary can lose all three of those.???

It would come down to Nevada then. Or if WI was flipped to the Republicans.

If, as some polls indicate, FL goes to Drumpfskind, NC becomes critical. Sure, scenarios play out that HIllary could still get 270 if she keeps all the Obama states, but she does need all the Obama states then. There is no room to lose one more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:54:30pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

this sucks large (and some of the responses to the tweet are horrible).

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Jim Gray, born and raised in Kentucky.
Rand Paul, a loon from Texas.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:55:48pm

Things that make you go hmmmm

22/40 Lisa Bonet was written off of The Cosby Show for ‘creative differences’, but in reality it was because she was in Angel Heartand had done a topless spread in a magazine. It didn’t fit with Cosby’s vision so she was fired.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:55:49pm

re: #251 gocart mozart

I don’t know how to respond to this. Anyone have a suggestion?\

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Ask him if it’s his version of “Is the dress white and gold or blue and black?” meme.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:56:50pm

Jesus, could some of you take a goddamn breath?

The Rolling Stones - Doom And Gloom

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:57:21pm

re: #261 leftynyc

Yes - we do need to deny him 270. The house would be under tremendous pressure to give the nod to the popular vote winner - which I suspect will be Hillary by a fairly large margin.

That’s ludicrous. If this election goes to the House, the House would make Trump president.

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scottslemmons  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:57:51pm

re: #251 gocart mozart

I don’t know how to respond to this. Anyone have a suggestion?\

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Send him some utterly ridiculous, nonsensical video. Send him several. Then block him.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:58:21pm

Ohio has many EVs and Obama winning it was a nice touch to make sure he had way more than 270 EV in 2012.

But currently OH is swinging against the Dems. And that is bad.

Traditionally OH was a Republican state, and it has on occasion voted Democratic.

When I look at these EC maps I have to wonder what it will take for the Democratic party to find a way to connect to the 21st century. Since the trend is for “independents” and not party affiliation, I think the need for a magnetic personality (which Obama has, and Hillary does not) is crucial.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:58:27pm

re: #250 Nyet

This I agree with.

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leftynyc  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:00:33pm

re: #268 EPR-radar

That’s ludicrous. If this election goes to the House, the House would make Trump president.

You can call it ludicrous all you wish, keeping donnie from 270 is every bit as important as making sure Hillary gets over 270.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:01:54pm

re: #245 Mattand

no, it isn’t officially over, but unless polls are wrong in ways they haven’t been before, he has no path to victory.
The FBI’s bullshit just has people pissed at the FBI.
He is getting his ass kicked in early voting.
HRC’s campaign has a fearsome ground game, he has virtually none.
He and the GOP keep providing ammunition to HRC’s campaign - e.g. violating the “no voter intimidation” consent decree.

My only real concern is that the margin won’t be enough to satisfy me - but I don’t see ANY signs of complacency on the part of the campaign or voters. Just look at how many people right here on this board are continuing to work their asses off on GOTV.

Sure, a Trump win maybe wouldn’t violate the laws of physics, but it ain’t going to happen. Obviously, you don’t agree, but you won’t convince me.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:02:27pm

re: #265 MsJ

Things that make you go hmmmm

She didn’t fit with Crosby’s fake image so she had to go so he could maintain the facade.

And Angel Heart was a great film! I still to this day refer to Louis Cyphre, the De Niro character.

I love the feeling of “heat” with everyone sweating and the fan blades, etc. It was great art.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:02:37pm

re: #272 leftynyc

You can call it ludicrous all you wish, keeping donnie from 270 is every bit as important as making sure Hillary gets over 270.

EPR has a point. Between cowards like Paul Ryan and psychos like Louie GHOMERT!, any election that goes to the House is basically “Hello, American Weimar Republic.”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:03:07pm

re: #273 Jebediah, RBG

I do have concern about African American Turnout.

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:03:13pm

re: #249 Weaselone

We don’t need to deny the Frito Fuhrer 270. If Hillary doesn’t get 270, the Presidential election gets tossed to the House. Who do you think they are going to choose?

Jeez! She never was going to win Utah. That is not in her path to 270.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:03:17pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:04:50pm

re: #254 freetoken

Even the PEC version of 270toWin:

270towin.com

… shows that Drumpfskind could win if he picked up the swing state of Iowa and flipped NC and FL.

That’s an unlikely event. But not impossible.

What other states would Trump have to win in this scenario? Trump carrying Iowa, FL and NC will not get him to 270 if HRC carries PA, NH, WI, CO, NM and NV.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:05:46pm

re: #273 Jebediah, RBG

no, it isn’t officially over, but unless polls are wrong in ways they haven’t been before, he has no path to victory.
The FBI’s bullshit just has people pissed at the FBI.
He is getting his ass kicked in early voting.
HRC’s campaign has a fearsome ground game, he has virtually none.
He and the GOP keep providing ammunition to HRC’s campaign - e.g. violating the “no voter intimidation” consent decree.

My only real concern is that the margin won’t be enough to satisfy me - but I don’t see ANY signs of complacency on the part of the campaign or voters. Just look at how many people right here on this board are continuing to work their asses of on GOTV.

Sure, a Trump win maybe wouldn’t violate the laws of physics, but it ain’t going to happen. Obviously, you don’t agree, but you won’t convince me.

Again, you bring up great points, but as I mentioned earlier, there’s still a ton of Undecideds, aka fucking idiots, out there.

Shit, I’ve still have some butthurt Bernie or Busters who are sitting next Tuesday on my FB feed. This is far from a done deal.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:06:06pm

re: #138 Ziggy_TARDIS

I know this election has you scared. And your friends too. I’ve said this repeatedly and I will say it again. The only poll that matters is the one on November 8. If your friends are able to do so, they need to vote. Incessant whining (no offense) online or to each other will do nothing.

Organize a GOTV in your community. Make sure everyone is registered to vote. If they need help getting to the polls, arrange rides for them.

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:06:45pm

re: #272 leftynyc

You can call it ludicrous all you wish, keeping donnie from 270 is every bit as important as making sure Hillary gets over 270.

If Clinton gets 270+, she becomes POTUS.

If both Clinton and Trump get less than 270 electoral votes, it goes to the House, which is virtually certain to make Trump POTUS.

In any situation where there is a meaningful difference between Clinton getting 270+ and Trump getting < 270, Trump getting < 270 is a loss and Clinton getting 270+ is a win.

So the claim that keeping Trump from 270 is as important as Clinton getting 270+ really is ludicrous.

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piratedan  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:06:49pm

re: #276 Ziggy_TARDIS

u want to go take a walk… maybe head to the Mosque, help them do some daily duties. Restore your faith, go do good deeds. If you want to feel that you’ve done all that you can… head down to Democratic headquarters, grab a phone, a clipboard or offer to help out. Regardless of how it turns out, you will have attempted to make a difference.

All you’re doing here is

1) winding yourself up over things you have minimal to zero control over
2) letting those things control your life

your choice, you can either choose to live your life or let your life live you.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:06:51pm

re: #269 scottslemmons

Send him some utterly ridiculous, nonsensical video. Send him several. Then block him.

Like this?

Kinko The Kid Loving Clown by Ogden Edsel On the Dr. Demento Show


or this?

The Fish Head Song

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:06:56pm

re: #279 Sir John Barron

What other states would Trump have to win in this scenario? Trump carrying Iowa, FL and NC will not get him to 270 if HRC carries PA, NH, WI, CO, NM and NV.

As I mentioned, WI or NV would be the most likely possibilities.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:07:51pm

re: #279 Sir John Barron

What other states would Trump have to win in this scenario? Trump carrying Iowa, FL and NC will not get him to 270 if HRC carries PA, NH, WI, CO, NM and NV.

The Kerry map plus VA and NM is 264. NV, CO, IA, OH, NC, or FL any one puts her over. NV seems to be already a done deal. People need to relax—myself included.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:08:48pm

re: #284 piratedan

I will.

Noticed something with SurveyUSA poll.

Respondents reachable on a home telephone (71% of likely voters) were
interviewed on their home telephones in the recorded voice of a professional announcer. Respondents not reachable on a home telephone (29% of likely voters) were shown a questionnaire on
the display of their smartphone, tablet or other electronic device.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:08:53pm

re: #270 freetoken

Ohio has many EVs and Obama winning it was a nice touch to make sure he had way more than 270 EV in 2012.

But currently OH is swinging against the Dems. And that is bad.

Traditionally OH was a Republican state, and it has on occasion voted Democratic.

When I look at these EC maps I have to wonder what it will take for the Democratic party to find a way to connect to the 21st century. Since the trend is for “independents” and not party affiliation, I think the need for a magnetic personality (which Obama has, and Hillary does not) is crucial.

Do you judge Hillary’s personality on what you see yourself/your own impressions or on all the stuff you obviously read.

I get the feeling you base everything on what others think rather than what you think. I get that impression by your posts. I hope you understand my point.

And if that is the case, then she has no chance to ever get on your good impression list because there is a 30 year wall of print/video/audio sludge she may never overcome.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:09:46pm

re: #287 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Kerry map plus VA and NM is 264. NV, CO, IA, OH, NC, or FL any one puts her over. NV seems to be already a done deal. People need to relax—myself included.

Right. I understand the anxiety. Hell I’m anxious too and I know it’s going to distract me at work a little but there’s a lot he has to flip to win. And as said, he had a habit of not exceeding his totals going into primaries and he’s dealing with someone who’s got a better ground game than his GOP opponents did too.

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ipsos  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:09:58pm

re: #268 EPR-radar

That’s ludicrous. If this election goes to the House, the House would make Trump president.

1. It’s not going to the House. It never goes to the House, no matter how many times Nate’s House of Electoral Fear Porn tries to lay out a map for that.

2. If it DOES go to the House, I think it’s far from a foregone conclusion that it all falls smoothly along party lines. There will be massive public outcry for following the popular vote, especially in the Utah scenario where Hillary gets both a popular vote plurality and an EV plurality. How many non-batshit GOP reps want the ugliness of a Trump vote tied to them in 2018? The ads and the challenges write themselves. It’s the ultimate no-win scenario for any part of the GOP that’s looking beyond 2016.

3. Blah blah faithless electors blah blah (as long as we’re off in fantasy land)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:11:32pm

re: #287 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Kerry map plus VA and NM is 264. NV, CO, IA, OH, NC, or FL any one puts her over. NV seems to be already a done deal. People need to relax—myself included.

I don’t remember Kerry’s map precisely. But HRC’s EV looks pretty safe for now. She wins the Pacific states, Mid-Atlantic states, New England, VA, PA, Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota, CO and NM, she’s in.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:11:47pm

re: #281 GlutenFreeJesus

I know this election has you scared. And your friends too. I’ve said this repeatedly and I will say it again. The only poll that matters is the one on November 8. If your friends are able to do so, they need to vote. Incessant whining (no offense) online or to each other will do nothing.

Organize a GOTV in your community. Make sure everyone is registered to vote. If they need help getting to the polls, arrange rides for them.

If anything, some of the people that are so freaked out may be frozen to their beds/couches by their fears on the 8th to ever make it to the polls.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:12:04pm

re: #291 ipsos

1. It’s not going to the House. It never goes to the House, no matter how many times Nate’s House of Electoral Fear Porn tries to lay out a map for that.

Upding for this. Got a IRL LOL out of me with that one.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:12:14pm

Neck and neck in the polls now? Wow. America really is exceptional.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:13:13pm

re: #291 ipsos

1. It’s not going to the House. It never goes to the House, no matter how many times Nate’s House of Electoral Fear Porn tries to lay out a map for that.

2. If it DOES go to the House, I think it’s far from a foregone conclusion that it all falls smoothly along party lines. There will be massive public outcry for following the popular vote, especially in the Utah scenario where Hillary gets both a popular vote plurality and an EV plurality. How many non-batshit GOP reps want the ugliness of a Trump vote tied to them in 2018? The ads and the challenges write themselves. It’s the ultimate no-win scenario for any part of the GOP that’s looking beyond 2016.

3. Blah blah faithless electors blah blah (as long as we’re off in fantasy land)

And the House votes as states so it’s even harder to predict.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:13:31pm

re: #288 Ziggy_TARDIS

Dude…you are the Platonic version of a concern troll right now. Find something else to do for a bit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:14:08pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:14:15pm
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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:14:52pm

re: #282 Ziggy_TARDIS

What do the more Math oriented among you think of this poll?

It is a good poll. So what?

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:15:04pm

re: #291 ipsos

1. It’s not going to the House. It never goes to the House, no matter how many times Nate’s House of Electoral Fear Porn tries to lay out a map for that.

2. If it DOES go to the House, I think it’s far from a foregone conclusion that it all falls smoothly along party lines. There will be massive public outcry for following the popular vote, especially in the Utah scenario where Hillary gets both a popular vote plurality and an EV plurality. How many non-batshit GOP reps want the ugliness of a Trump vote tied to them in 2018? The ads and the challenges write themselves. It’s the ultimate no-win scenario for any part of the GOP that’s looking beyond 2016.

3. Blah blah faithless electors blah blah (as long as we’re off in fantasy land)

I agree it’s not going to the House. McMullin has to win in UT, and those votes have to matter, both of which are unlikely.

With respect to point #2, a presidential election in the House is one vote per state delegation, instead of a normal House vote by each representative. Since Republicans control more state delegations, they would win on a party line vote, which is absolutely what I think would happen in this unlikely scenario.

The Republicans are embracing a neo-Nazi because he’s their candidate this cycle. There is no sanity in the GOP that would cause the House to not vote party line in that case.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:15:55pm

re: #292 Sir John Barron

I don’t remember Kerry’s map precisely. But HRC’s EV looks pretty safe for now. She wins the Pacific states, Mid-Atlantic states, New England, VA, PA, Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota, CO and NM, she’s in.

Kerry won: New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont, New York, California, Oregon, Washington, Maryland, D.C. Connecticut, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Hawaii. I think that’s all. I personally don’t see Clinton losing either of those. In addition, I see her winning Virginia and New Mexico with some certainty which I think leaves her at 264.

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wrenchwench  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:16:01pm

I watched my local Tea Party chapter die. It’s been 11 months since they went down. Maybe that’s where my serenity comes from.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:16:03pm

re: #289 ObserverArt

I get the feeling you base everything on what others think rather than what you think. I get that impression by your posts. I hope you understand my point.

Sure enough, I write about what I assess others are doing/thinking.

My own feelings about Hillary is that she is intelligent but not winsom, hard working but not visionary.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:16:44pm

re: #292 Sir John Barron

I don’t remember Kerry’s map precisely. But HRC’s EV looks pretty safe for now. She wins the Pacific states, Mid-Atlantic states, New England, VA, PA, Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota, CO and NM, she’s in.

I’d characterize Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan as the Upper Mid-West. These are semi-swing states. HRC should win them.

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:17:14pm

re: #304 freetoken

Sure enough, I write about what I assess other’s are doing/thinking.

My own feelings about Hillary is that she is intelligent but not winsom, hard working but not visionary.

I like intelligent and hard-working. Not enough of that anywhere, especially in DC.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:18:07pm

re: #291 ipsos

All the updings for ‘Nate’s House of Electoral Fear.’

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:18:46pm

re: #304 freetoken

Sure enough, I write about what I assess others are doing/thinking.

My own feelings about Hillary is that she is intelligent but not winsom, hard working but not visionary.

Wow. Not winsom. No vision???

I’ll stop there.

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:19:25pm

Well…

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:19:28pm

re: #293 ObserverArt

If anything, some of the people that are so freaked out may be frozen to their beds/couches by their fears on the 8th to ever make it to the polls.

They sure seem to be frozen to their polling aggregator of choice these days.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:19:47pm

re: #292 Sir John Barron

I don’t remember Kerry’s map precisely. But HRC’s EV looks pretty safe for now. She wins the Pacific states, Mid-Atlantic states, New England, VA, PA, Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota, CO and NM, she’s in.

The Kerry map plus Virginia and New Mexico:

Trump has to win all the states I have marked as tossups. Clinton only has to win one of them.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:19:50pm

re: #300 blueraven

It scares me.

What’s the use of being happy now if everything will be miserable after?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:20:31pm

re: #309 blueraven

Well…

[Embedded content]

Note to Sid, deleting something doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, the internet is forever you pig faced son of a bitch.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:21:06pm

re: #276 Ziggy_TARDIS

Just in FL, or everywhere?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:21:30pm

re: #311 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Kerry map plus Virginia and New Mexico:

[Embedded content]

Trump has to win all the states I have marked as tossups. Clinton only has to win one of them.

And I honestly feel good about all those except Ohio and Iowa and even those could end up closer than expected.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:21:49pm

re: #308 ObserverArt

Wow. Not winsom. No vision???

I’ll stop there.

Compare to FDR, or Kennedy.

That is the job for which she is applying.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:22:09pm

re: #312 Ziggy_TARDIS

It scares me.

What’s the use of being happy now if everything will be miserable after?

It’s one poll.

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:22:42pm

re: #282 Ziggy_TARDIS

What do the more Math oriented among you think of this poll?

It’s an NC only poll which has 15 of 538 electoral votes.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:22:54pm

re: #311 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Kerry didn’t win VA or NM? Those states seem so safe now I forget when they weren’t.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:22:55pm

re: #314 Jebediah, RBG

Everywhere. It is showing up in VA, and NC.

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:23:33pm

re: #312 Ziggy_TARDIS

It scares me.

What’s the use of being happy now if everything will be miserable after?

And here I thought I was an Eeyore.

To run with your unlikely premise, if everything after the election will be miserable, then what good does it do to preemptively assume the worst and also make this last week before the election miserable?

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:23:38pm

re: #312 Ziggy_TARDIS

It scares me.

What’s the use of being happy now if everything will be miserable after?

Stop wallowing in misery. Just fucking stop.

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unproven innocence  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:23:51pm

re: #288 Ziggy_TARDIS

I will.

Noticed something with SurveyUSA poll.

Noticed that too. The calling and tabulation of responses is fullly automated. It has occurred to me that nothing seems to prevent survey *responses* from being fully automated also.

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:24:41pm

re: #312 Ziggy_TARDIS

It scares me.

What’s the use of being happy now if everything will be miserable after?

a. one poll
b. she doesn’t need NC to win.

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scottslemmons  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:25:19pm

re: #285 gocart mozart

Like this?

[Embedded content]

More like this:

late for meeting

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wrenchwench  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:25:55pm

re: #312 Ziggy_TARDIS

It scares me.

What’s the use of being happy now if everything will be miserable after?

Do not spoil the present with fears for the future.

Seriously, you have to take responsibility for how you feel, the same way you take responsibility for what you think. You may not be able to control what happens, but you control what you think about it, which causes you to feel a way about it.

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:26:01pm

re: #312 Ziggy_TARDIS

It scares me.

What’s the use of being happy now if everything will be miserable after?

You are your own worst enemy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:26:02pm

re: #319 Sir John Barron

Kerry didn’t win VA or NM? Those states seem so safe now I forget when they weren’t.

Oh, no, he lost VA by a lot. Back then before I understood polling (I still won’t profess to know it that well) but I thought there was a chance that VA might flip that year. I remember my 12th government teacher telling me I was nuts. NM was more of a surprise though since it had been a Gore state. Kerry won New Hampshire, a state that Gore had lost. So I guess this is why I’m pretty confident. Gore and Kerry I feel ran subpar campaigns compared to Clinton and I feel Bush ran above average campaigns compared to Trump. Even with all that, he won the 2000 and 2004 elections by one state. I just don’t see Trump being able to pick up all those states.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:26:22pm

re: #280 Mattand

but as I mentioned earlier, there’s still a ton of Undecideds, aka fucking idiots, out there.

I agree that anyone undecided at this point is a fucking idiot. I just don’t think there are enough of them to counteract the blazing (and motivating!) hatred many minorities have for trump. E.g. the very high number of new Hispanic voter registrations in TX.
Yes, it isn’t yet a done deal, but it, and he, will be done.
If I am wrong, I will accept whatever pillorying and abuse is deemed appropriate, but I amn’t going to panic.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:27:22pm

re: #329 Jebediah, RBG

I agree that anyone undecided at this point is a fucking idiot. I just don’t think there are enough of them to counteract the blazing (and motivating!) hatred many minorities have for trump. E.g. the very high number of new Hispanic voter registrations in TX.
Yes, it isn’t yet a done deal, but it, and he, will be done.
If I am wrong, I will accept whatever pillorying and abuse is deemed appropriate, but I amn’t going to panic.

Agree with this. The news out of Nevada today was welcoming too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:28:13pm

re: #319 Sir John Barron

Kerry didn’t win VA or NM? Those states seem so safe now I forget when they weren’t.

Ohio and New York have both lost two votes since then. Ohio alone would have put him over, but shenanigans ensued….

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:28:42pm

re: #323 unproven innocence

Noticed that too. The calling and tabulation of responses is fullly automated. It has occurred to me that nothing seems to prevent survey *responses* from being fully automated also.

Stop feeding him. Survey is a good poll. Doesn’t mean it isn’t an outlier. But Trump can win NC and still lose. Calm down.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:29:43pm

re: #323 unproven innocence

Wait, fully automated?

The second I get an Automated Call, I instantly hang-up. In fact, I would imagine most would.

That could easily boff-up the data-collection.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:30:17pm

re: #331 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ohio and New York have both lost two votes since then. Ohio alone would have put him over, but shenanigans ensued….

I still loathe Rove and the now conveniently openly gay Mehlman for using fear of same sex marriage on the ballots in those states to get out the GOP vote in that election. Not saying it was illegal but it was yet another example of how the GOP has used fear of the other to drive up its vote. Atwater was probably smiling from metaphorical hell when they did that shit.

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:30:26pm

re: #329 Jebediah, RBG

I agree that anyone undecided at this point is a fucking idiot. I just don’t think there are enough of them to counteract the blazing (and motivating!) hatred many minorities have for trump. E.g. the very high number of new Hispanic voter registrations in TX.
Yes, it isn’t yet a done deal, but it, and he, will be done.
If I am wrong, I will accept whatever pillorying and abuse is deemed appropriate, but I amn’t going to panic.

My thinking on undecideds is that they are mostly Republicans deciding between their hatreds of Clinton and Trump. Undecideds of this type aren’t a threat to Clinton, because they never would have voted for Clinton in any normal election cycle.

LWNJs undecided (e.g., Bernie dead-enders) are a threat, since they can subtract from normal democratic turn out. But I just don’t see these people as being as numerous as the Republicans suffering a Trump heartburn.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:30:56pm

re: #332 blueraven

Stop feeding him. Survey is a good poll. Doesn’t mean it isn’t an outlier. But Trump can win NC and still lose. Calm down.

i wasn’t saying that the poll wasn’t legit. I’m saying he shouldn’t freak out over one poll.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:32:08pm

re: #303 wrenchwench

I watched my local Tea Party chapter die. It’s been 11 months since they went down. Maybe that’s where my serenity comes from.

If you have a county Trump headquarters, they just re-branded.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:33:05pm

Because “The Intercept” says so.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:33:24pm

re: #327 b_sharp

You are your own worst enemy.

Patient: It hurts when I do this (makes a strange motion with arm)

Doctor: Then don’t do that.

Patient: I think I need to find another doctor

Another Doctor: Don’t do that.

Patient: I think I need to find another doctor.

Patient then runs out of doctors…goes to witch doctor.

Witch Doctor: Don’t do that.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Eventually patient dies having never enjoyed a full life as it was spent searching for doctors.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:33:26pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

If you have a county Trump headquarters, they just re-branded.

Hey we’re trying for serenity here! Okay, I feel pretty good considering my state rejected Ken Cuccinelli for governor who we actually elected to statewide office.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:33:38pm

re: #311 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I thought I just saw a claim that with so many early voters in NV, she may have already clinched that state. So…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:34:46pm

re: #341 Jebediah, RBG

I thought I just saw a claim that with so many early voters in NV, she may have already clinched that state. So…

You read the same thing I did that suggests she’s off to a good start in Nevada. Don’t think she’s clinched but I think it’s reasonable to conclude she’s in good position there.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:35:29pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Oh, no, he lost VA by a lot. Back then before I understood polling (I still won’t profess to know it that well) but I thought there was a chance that VA might flip that year. I remember my 12th government teacher telling me I was nuts. NM was more of a surprise though since it had been a Gore state. Kerry won New Hampshire, a state that Gore had lost. So I guess this is why I’m pretty confident. Gore and Kerry I feel ran subpar campaigns compared to Clinton and I feel Bush ran above average campaigns compared to Trump. Even with all that, he won the 2000 and 2004 elections by one state. I just don’t see Trump being able to pick up all those states.

Florida got all the attention in 2000 because it decided the election either way, but New Mexico had a recount too. It has steadily moved Democratic since.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:36:08pm

re: #341 Jebediah, RBG

I thought I just saw a claim that with so many early voters in NV, she may have already clinched that state. So…

Exactly. With this number of votes, if it were Election Night, they would already have called Nevada.

Plus, Trump’s not going to win Colorado, either.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:36:28pm

re: #343 KGxvi

Florida got all the attention in 2000 because it decided the election either way, but New Mexico had a recount too. It has steadily moved Democratic since.

Yeah I think NM’s going to go for Clinton too. Florida too actually.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:37:20pm

re: #344 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Exactly. With this number of votes, if it were Election Night, they would already have called Nevada.

Plus, Trump’s not going to win Colorado, either.

Yeah I just don’t see Trump winning a state that legalized pot and rejected the Republican wave in 2010. Now I know they did elect Gardner to the Senate just a couple years ago.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:37:55pm

re: #325 scottslemmons

Done.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:38:19pm

As I said, the only two Obama states I’m truly worried about are Ohio and Iowa and I’m not totally worried either since I feel HRC may exceed her polling on election day.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:38:54pm

Just got a robo call from Faith in Freedom Coalition with Reverend Falwell telling me to vote for Donald Trump.

I hung up and then called the number right back. I left a terse message “How about you keep Religion out of Politics like the US Constitution calls for…and then piss off!”

I am such a meanie. I couldn’t help myself…I think the Republicans are causing it.

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wrenchwench  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:39:01pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

If you have a county Trump headquarters, they just re-branded.

Nope. Only a Republican running for county commissioner who told me he’s embarrassed to admit his party. Not enough to switch, yet…

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:39:21pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

i wasn’t saying that the poll wasn’t legit. I’m saying he shouldn’t freak out over one poll.

That’s fine, but I wasn’t responding to you. :)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:40:10pm

re: #349 ObserverArt

Just got a robo call from Faith in Freedom Coalition with Reverend Falwell telling me to vote for Donald Trump.

I hung up and then called the number right back. I left a terse message “How about you keep Religion out of Politics like the US Constitution calls for…and then piss off!”

I am such a meanie. I couldn’t help myself…I think the Republicans are causing it.

Considering his old man went along with that prick Robertson saying we deserved 9-11 because of legalized abortion and not treating gays like they do in Russia, I’m sure they’ll live. Now the better question is how the fuck did they get your digits?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:41:03pm

re: #351 blueraven

That’s fine, but I wasn’t responding to you. :)

True enough. My bad. I can understand why Ziggy gets anxious. I suffer from anxiety too and know how it can be but we gotta just be patient and let this play out. I’m confident for the reasons why I’ve described already.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:41:26pm

I will really, really try to relax on the polls, especially the NC poll. Especially since the results look more than a little strange compared to the other polls out there.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:41:51pm

The misogynist dipshittery is only beginning.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:42:05pm

re: #354 Ziggy_TARDIS

I will really, really try to relax on the polls, especially the NC poll. Especially since the results look more than a little strange compared to the other polls out there.

Please do. It’ll do wonders for your health.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:42:13pm

re: #353 HappyWarrior

It’s more that my anxiety levels were already at 70-80%, so it takes very little to go into hysteria.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:42:54pm

re: #354 Ziggy_TARDIS

I will really, really try to relax on the polls, especially the NC poll. Especially since the results look more than a little strange compared to the other polls out there.

Turn off the internet. Go read a book. STOP READING POLLS. Unplug. Completely.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:42:56pm

re: #357 Ziggy_TARDIS

It’s more that my anxiety levels were already at 70-80%, so it takes very little to go into hysteria.

Gotcha. I know how that can be too.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:43:53pm

re: #352 HappyWarrior

Considering his old man went along with that prick Robertson saying we deserved 9-11 because of legalized abortion and not treating gays like they do in Russia, I’m sure they’ll live. Now the better question is how the fuck did they get your digits?

I’m thinking it was a robo call…or the State of Ohio is releasing voter info…but that should have me as a Democrat.

Actually who the hell knows…this is a very screwed up election. Nothing surprises me any more.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:44:27pm
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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:44:31pm

re: #357 Ziggy_TARDIS

It’s more that my anxiety levels were already at 70-80%, so it takes very little to go into hysteria.

Marijuana on the ballot in 9 states including Nevada, think about that.

You think that will bring out more Trump or Clinton voters?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:44:41pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:44:59pm

Well, fellow lib-socialist takers, I just bought another Rolls-Royce, pretty fancy one too.
It is not one of the larger types though.
Rolls Royce Phantom II — Plastic Model Car Kit — 1/24 Scale

I do plan to paint it to match the box:

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:45:00pm

re: #362 blueraven

Clinton, I would imagine.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:45:09pm

re: #357 Ziggy_TARDIS

It’s more that my anxiety levels were already at 70-80%, so it takes very little to go into hysteria.

Actually doing something in the real world is a fucking amazing stress reliever.

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Lidane  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:45:30pm

That moment when you’ve spent the afternoon waiting around for management approval of something that’s scheduled to run today. And then it still has to go to the client. ARGH.

Love my job. Love my coworkers. Hate sitting on my ass waiting for two people to say yes to something before I can do my job.

368
gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:45:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:46:04pm

re: #360 ObserverArt

I’m thinking it was a robo call…or the State of Ohio is releasing voter info…but that should have me as a Democrat.

Actually who the hell knows…this is a very screwed up election. Nothing surprises me any more.

I still remember getting called by the Cuccinneli campaign a few years back. That was odd. I hardly ever get calls from Republicans though. We don’t have official party registration here. The Dems know where we stand since they called us to remind us to vote for Obama. Hoping we get a call for them regarding Clinton even though we dont’ need the reminder.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:46:06pm

re: #355 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The misogynist dipshittery is only beginning.

I still have hope that the women of America put a stop to that kind of crap. These big-mouth Republicans seem to forget that they need votes and women are the majority.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:46:33pm

re: #362 blueraven

Marijuana on the ballot in 9 states including Nevada, think about that.

You think that will bring out more Trump or Clinton voters?

I didn’t know about that! What nine states.

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unproven innocence  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:46:45pm

re: #333 Ziggy_TARDIS

Wait, fully automated?

The second I get an Automated Call, I instantly hang-up. In fact, I would imagine most would.

That could easily boff-up the data-collection.

SurveyUSA Excerpt:

The difference between SurveyUSA and other telephone polling firms is twofold. First, SurveyUSA does not use live call center employees, but an automated system. Taped questions are asked of the respondent by a professional announcer (usually a local news anchor), and the respondent is invited to press a button on their touch tone telephone or record a message at a prompt designating their selection. Secondly, SurveyUSA uses more concise language, especially for ballot propositions, than competitors. This can lead to diverging results, [snip]

I was suggesting that outfitting some modest number of phones (among those to be called) with “customized” answering machines to fudge the survery results is entirely feasable, technologically, altho not ethically. No humans at either end of such calls, and no voice recordings either.

373
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:46:57pm

re: #366 Decatur Deb

I did. I helped the Clinton Campaign today.

374
Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:47:25pm

re: #366 Decatur Deb

Actually doing something in the real world is a fucking amazing stress reliever.

You’ll be too tired to be stressed out.

Need to get back to calls before I start getting nasty looks. :)

375
gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:47:26pm
376
jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:47:35pm

re: #370 ObserverArt

So, immediately after that came out, they tried to pretend Sid Miller’s account had been hacked. Then quickly abandoned that defense, and blamed a staffer.

377
Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:47:43pm

re: #373 Ziggy_TARDIS

I did. I helped the Clinton Campaign today.

Now, doesn’t that feel better?

378
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:47:50pm

re: #372 unproven innocence

I think it would be that many people would just hang up on an automated call.

379
jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:47:59pm
380
jaunte  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:48:23pm
381
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:48:30pm

re: #377 Decatur Deb

A little. But isolation stuff is still creeping in.

382
MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:48:41pm

Kurt is very unhappy. Check out his timeline. Wow. Scathing.

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:49:43pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know about that! What nine states.

krdo.com

Five states, highlighted in green on the map above, will vote whether to legalize recreational marijuana. Those states include Arizona, California, Maine, Massachusetts and Nevada.

Florida, Arkansas and North Dakota, which are shaded in blue, are voting to allow the use of medical marijuana.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:50:05pm

Got sick of the FBI news, went out & early voted. SMASH FASCISM, FUCK THE GOP. “And that’s all I have to say about that.”

If GA goes to H-Rod by one vote, I’m taking credit. ^^

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:50:17pm

re: #375 gocart mozart

I saw that on RedState yesterday. Glad someone more official picked it up.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:50:23pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know about that! What nine states.

California, Arizona, Maine, Massachusetts, and Nevada have full legalization on the ballot. Arkansas, Florida, Montana, and North Dakota have medical marijuana on the ballot.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:50:26pm

re: #383 blueraven

krdo.com

Cool, I’ll be watching for the outcomes on those as well.

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scottslemmons  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:50:42pm

re: #347 gocart mozart

Done.

[Embedded content]

Eeeexcellent. :)

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:53:58pm
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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:55:58pm

re: #354 Ziggy_TARDIS

I will really, really try to relax on the polls, especially the NC poll. Especially since the results look more than a little strange compared to the other polls out there.

Look, I know how difficult it can be to give in to your worst instincts.

I suffer from depression. I know how easy it is, how seductive it is, how perversely comforting it is to just sit and disappear into your own head and confirm to yourself that things are horrible and every bad thing you’ve ever feared is absolutely real.

I have to fight the temptation to do that every single day. Some days I win, some I don’t.

But those who are telling you to maybe step back and do something else are giving you good advice. If you feel like you’re getting overwhelmed, just step back for a minute. Worrying about the future does nothing but mess up the present.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:01:42pm

re: #390 makeitstop

+IB48ukbyvn/kXtYZj+v7KkDadlbO3T8PFddDOYaQVY62D6x8YPi0M3o1TG6IrDQu+9VT6DoXAKfPfCZfRCO7uqrfNbNCaaz9rwM/wKDn61jt1dK/G/zetoUt7wxTZHRNRQ/KJFyvqONYNPr4P8dxg==

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Varek Raith  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:06:36pm

freetoken and PLL be dooming and the glooming.

:P

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:07:57pm

re: #391 Ziggy_TARDIS

[Embedded content]

Both run in my family. I was fortunate enough to only be visited by one.

All any of us can do is keep moving forward and not let it win, as best we can.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:32:09pm

re: #312 Ziggy_TARDIS

It scares me.

What’s the use of being happy now if everything will be miserable after?

You are already making yourself miserable.
But you know that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:37:43pm

re: #320 Ziggy_TARDIS

Everywhere. It is showing up in VA, and NC.

No it isn’t. Stop it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:46:47pm

re: #363 Ziggy_TARDIS

[Embedded content]

“Military Times” which described Steve Bannon as “a man of solid character”.
OK…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:54:53pm

re: #382 MsJ

Kurt is very unhappy. Check out his timeline. Wow. Scathing.

[Embedded content]

the “philanthropist” part must have been that page that was mostly redacted….

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Semper Fi  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:43:57pm

...

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CleverToad  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:18:04pm

re: #304 freetoken

Sure enough, I write about what I assess others are doing/thinking.

My own feelings about Hillary is that she is intelligent but not winsom, hard working but not visionary.

re: #316 freetoken

Compare to FDR, or Kennedy.

That is the job for which she is applying.

“winsome”?
Ummm, I can’t remember hearing that adjective applied to a male of any age, or a female over the age of about 22. Would you have even thought of applying it to FDR or JFK?

Yeah, I know, dead thread now. But “winsome”, for the love of mud???

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:22:51am

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Eat This, Not That Other Stuffblog.timesunion.com By Rob Hoffman on May 24, 2018 at 5:29 AM2MoreA few years ago, a book came out that became very popular amongst those who spend a lot of their time dieting. The book was called Eat This, Not That. ...
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This Is the Kit - Full Performance (Live on KEXP) kexp.org presents This Is The Kit performing live in the KEXP studio. Recorded November 28, 2017. Songs:Empty No TeethBullet ProofMoonshine FreezeSolid Grease Host: Troy NelsonAudio Engineer: Kevin SuggsCameras: Jim Beckmann, Scott Holpainen & Justin WilmoreEditor: Justin Wilmore kexp.orgthisisthekit.co.uk ...
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Starry Starry Night -Lianne La Havas Provided to YouTube by Warner Music Group Starry Starry Night · Lianne La Havas Loving Vincent (Original Soundtrack) ℗ 2017 Un Pundeas De Monetas, Inc. Under exclusive license to Éditions Milan Music Featured Vocals: Lianne La HavasComposer: Don McLean ...
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Masterpiece Theater-Little WomenTonight Masterpiece Theater presents Little Women. This latest production promises to be a good one with some well known actors and actresses. The March girls are played by relative unknowns. Please check your local PBS stations for the times in ...
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Ry Cooder - the Prodigal Son (Live in Studio) "The Prodigal Son", Ry' Cooder's first new solo release in six years, is set for release May 11, 2018! Pre-order / stream "The Prodigal Son" here: found.ee Directed by Jeff Coffman Follow Ry:Official Website: rycooder.comFacebook: facebook.comInstagram: instagram.com LYRICSnow, the ...
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Charlie Puth - ‘How Long’ [Official Video] Download and Stream "How Long": atlantic.lnk.to Pre-Order Voicenotes: atlantic.lnk.to Exclusive VoiceNotes Merchandise Bundles Available Here: smarturl.it Follow Charlie:charlieputh.comtwitter.comfacebook.cominstagram.com THE VOICENOTES TOURwith Charlie Puth and Hailee SteinfeldTickets & VIP: charlieputh.com #VoicenotesTour Dates:07/11 – Toronto, ON – Budweiser Stage07/13 – Boston, ...
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Welles - Rock N Roll [Audio Only] PreOrder Welles Album "Red Trees and White Trashes" featuring "Seventeen" and "Rock N Roll"ffm.to Listen to Rock N Roll: ffm.toListen to Seventeen: ffm.to CONNECT: wellesmusic.comfacebook.cominstagram.com@wellesmusic--ROCK N ROLLdoesn't eatdoesn't sleepdoes drugsjus shrugs & says leave me beROCK N ROLLis a ...
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WALK the MOON - Kamikaze (Official Video) Get WALK THE MOON's new album 'What If Nothing' featuring "Kamikaze" and "One Foot":iTunes - wtmband.comSpotify - wtmband.comApple Music - wtmband.comAmazon - wtmband.comGoogle Play - wtmband.comMerch Store - wtmband.com Catch WTM On Tour - wtmband.com Follow WALK THE MOON:walkthemoonband.comfacebook.com@WALKTHEMOONbandinstagram.com ...
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