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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:

Spinbot: One week to go; The FBI Email Story; The race is definitely tightening; Trump could win all the tossups and still lose; The brilliant New York Magazine profile of the Trump campaign; 17 months versus four years; The Ironic Kellyanne Conway Tweet of the Day; Hacking the vote; The Evan McMullin Robocall; and more.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:55:39pm

Daily Kos comment has my exact thoughts on the poll from Florida:

I’m guessing big crossover from Cuban voters and Republican women. If that’s true, the Cuban effect would be limited to Florida, but significant crossover from Republican women would likely have a similar, if smaller, impact in other states. Will be interested to see the unaffiliated voter crosstabs when they come out.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:57:53pm

Why in the world does the American suddenly love the Kremlin?

RUSSIAN THEATRE CANCELS JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR AFTER ‘BLASPHEMY’ ACCUSATIONS

A Siberian theatre triggered a storm today by cancelling a staging of Andrew Lloyd Webber’s musical Jesus Christ Superstar after a pro-Kremlin nationalist group condemned it as blasphemy.

The touring production by Saint Petersburg’s Rock Opera theatre was due to open November 1 in the Musical Theatre of the city of Omsk, but the organisers cancelled it this week following protests by conservative activists.

In a report from Omsk, Regnum news agency wrote today that the scandal “has prompted a major public reaction”.

It quoted art critic Vadim Klimov as saying: “Today you cannot say that Russia is a secular state.”

An obscure group called Family, Love, Fatherland had appealed to regional authorities to stop the staging and applied to hold a demonstration, accusing the long-running musical of “non-stop blasphemy” and “mockery of faith”.

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(alpuz)  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:59:24pm

So uh, just got back from the Trump rally here(down the street) in Wisconsin. Pretty surreal across the board. The whole WisGop gang was there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:59:32pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel

Why in the world does the American suddenly love the Kremlin?

RUSSIAN THEATRE CANCELS JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR AFTER ‘BLASPHEMY’ ACCUSATIONS

If a lot of the religious right want to move to Russia, I won’t stop them. They won’t be missed.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:00:44pm

Kellyanne has sold her soul. That photo.

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unproven innocence  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:01:09pm

That lifetime non-disparagement agreement that Trump requires of all his employees, aides, political volunteers, etc —it seemed so crazy to me, until…

A Totally Real, 100% Valid Theory | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:01:32pm

re: #5 Stanley Sea

Kellyanne has sold her soul. That photo.

To be honest, I wonder if she really had one in the first place. I’ve read about some of her past remarks about gay people. She seems to be a pretty hateful person.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:01:40pm

re: #3 (alpuz)

So uh, just got back from the Trump rally here(down the street) in Wisconsin. Pretty surreal across the board. The whole WisGop gang was there.

More details pls

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thedopefishlives  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:02:13pm

re: #3 (alpuz)

So uh, just got back from the Trump rally here(down the street) in Wisconsin. Pretty surreal across the board. The whole WisGop gang was there.

God bless you, why would you subject yourself to that?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:03:22pm

re: #3 (alpuz)

So uh, just got back from the Trump rally here(down the street) in Wisconsin. Pretty surreal across the board. The whole WisGop gang was there.

Objective question but who’s the worst of Wisconsin’s three wingnut stooges in your opinion: Ayn Ryan, Johnson, or Wanker.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:03:59pm

Well folks, we can pack it in, the Florida poll of Trump defections doesn’t matter. I’ve been informed by a “serious” conservative that the Miami chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans has chosen to endorse Trump.

And I was so sure we’d win…/////

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:04:39pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Well folks, we can pack it in, the Florida poll of Trump defections doesn’t matter. I’ve been informed by a “serious” conservative that the Miami chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans has chosen to endorse Trump.

And I was so sure we’d win…/////

We’re doomed now. //

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:04:53pm
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whitebeach  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:05:41pm

re: #3 (alpuz)

So uh, just got back from the Trump rally here(down the street) in Wisconsin. Pretty surreal across the board. The whole WisGop gang was there.

Did you happen to spot Paul Ryan?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:06:14pm

Weld essentially endorsed her.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:09:37pm

re: #3 (alpuz)

So uh, just got back from the Trump rally here(down the street) in Wisconsin. Pretty surreal across the board. The whole WisGop gang was there.

Did they do the “two minutes hate” schtick to the press?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:10:02pm

re: #15 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Weld essentially endorsed her.

I always thought Weld by far the more sensible of him and Johnson. In fact, I was surprised Weld became Johnson’s running mate. I think he wanted to give street cred to the LP by having two governors on the ticket and if Johnson had a different running mate, he would have gone with one of the more kooky elements of the LP. The inner dynamics of the LP are actually pretty interesting to me.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:10:18pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Objective question but who’s the worst of Wisconsin’s three wingnut stooges in your opinion: Ayn Ryan, Johnson, or Wanker.

Walker. He’s stupid enough to actually believe the tripe he spews and he hates education on top of it.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:11:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:11:34pm

re: #18 William Lewis

Walker. He’s stupid enough to actually believe the tripe he spews and he hates education on top of it.

Yeah that would be my pick based on what I know about them.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:16:40pm

Someone noticed something from Cillizza.

Then, I noticed something else. Is Cillizza also a liar?

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(alpuz)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:17:55pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

More details pls

Ok, showed up on the campus around 4:45… the doors opened at 4:30. I live pretty close to the campus so things were a bit chaotic, but honestly, it was a really long line of angry white people.

There were barricades set up separating the angry white folks from pretty much everyone else. Priebus talked, I’m pretty sure Walker talked next, then thee Donald came on. I have video. I’ll go through it tomorrow, but it’s pretty much exactly how’d you expect a Trump rally to go down. A bunch of confusion, a lot of older white people, and a pretty big sound system.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:17:57pm

re: #21 Ziggy_TARDIS

Oops, whole thread.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:18:35pm

re: #22 (alpuz)

Ok, showed up on the campus around 4:45… the doors opened at 4:30. I live pretty close to the campus so things were a bit chaotic, but honestly, it was a really long line of angry white people.

There were barricades set up separating the angry white folks from pretty much everyone else. Priebus talked, I’m pretty sure Walker talked next, then thee Donald came on. I have video. I’ll go through it tomorrow, but it’s pretty much exactly how’d you expect a Trump rally to go down. A bunch of confusion, a lot of older white people, and a pretty big sound system.

Priebus actually showed up to a Trump rally? Oh me oh my.

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(alpuz)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:19:18pm

re: #18 William Lewis

The rally was on your old stomping grounds, William.You would have cringed.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:19:34pm

re: #22 (alpuz)

Page it please…. easy access for all.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:19:41pm

Chris Cillizza being full of shit? Surely you jest!

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Stanley Sea  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:20:54pm

re: #22 (alpuz)

Ok, showed up on the campus around 4:45… the doors opened at 4:30. I live pretty close to the campus so things were a bit chaotic, but honestly, it was a really long line of angry white people.

There were barricades set up separating the angry white folks from pretty much everyone else. Priebus talked, I’m pretty sure Walker talked next, then thee Donald came on. I have video. I’ll go through it tomorrow, but it’s pretty much exactly how’d you expect a Trump rally to go down. A bunch of confusion, a lot of older white people, and a pretty big sound system.

Props.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:20:59pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

This goes a bit beyond that.

The graph shows “enthusiasm” dipping to 43%.

However, the data from that poll shows it unchanged at 48%.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:23:34pm

Well, I think that out of all of this we’ve discovered Ziggy the statistics phenom.

Congrats. (is it your field of work? maybe re-think)

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:23:53pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:24:00pm

re: #29 Ziggy_TARDIS

So, either the graph was badly made, and he is an idiot.

Or, he deliberately put wrong data into the graph.

Not only that, but the total enthusiasm is actually equal, plus or minus a point or 2, between Clinton and Trump.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:24:52pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

It’s not even that.

The crosstab information, which is public, is not the same as the graph. Two hilariously public numbers do not agree.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:25:31pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

It’s basic “I’m Not Blind” work.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:25:43pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:25:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:26:48pm

re: #31 Kragar

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Kayleigh may be the stupidest pundit I’ve ever seen and that’s saying a lot. As nice as it was to see that Clinton won the Scholastic mock election in Texas, it doesn’t mean much for her chances especially nationally.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:27:13pm

re: #36 teleskiguy

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Glad I’m not the only one seeing what Nate’s up to. He does this every election, but is especially bad this year because he needs a nail-biter next Tuesday if he wants to still have a job Nov 9th.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:28:29pm

re: #31 Kragar

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Yeah, the MN student mock election has already been posted to my FB feed thanks to my wingnut friend. I had to restrain myself from replying, “Notice how he polled extremely well among the least educated in our society”…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:28:58pm

election.scholastic.com
By the way, Kayleigh is not only stupid, she’s also wrong. Clinton won the Scholastic mock election in Minnesota 54-33.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:29:26pm

The Graph

Crosstabs
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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:29:32pm

So the Indians have 3 outs to score 8 runs if they want to win tonight. Is there a greater than zero chance they could do it? Sure. Let’s all give ourselves an ulcer now worrying that they’ll do it.

////

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:30:05pm

re: #24 thedopefishlives

Priebus actually showed up to a Trump rally? Oh me oh my.

Talk about star power!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:30:41pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

So the Indians have 3 outs to score 8 runs if they want to win tonight. Is there a greater than zero chance they could do it? Sure. Let’s all give ourselves an ulcer now worrying that they’ll do it.

////

That’s the thing. Most things, there’s always a chance it could happen but it doesn’t mean we have to act like all possibilities are created equal.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:31:32pm

Anyhow looks like the Series is going seven games. Good. Lester-Kluber will be a good match up and with left handed Lester on the mound, that means my old opponent Brandon Guyer will probably start since he hits lefties well.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:32:51pm
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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:33:00pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Anyhow looks like the Series is going seven games. Good. Lester-Kluber will be a good match up and with left handed Lester on the mound, that means my old opponent Brandon Guyer will probably start since he hits lefties well.

Whichever way game 7 goes both clubs have made their respective cities proud.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:33:05pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

Well, I think that out of all of this we’ve discovered Ziggy the statistics phenom.

Congrats. (is it your field of work? maybe re-think)

I’m not sure “being able to read a number correctly” is the definition of “phenom”. But apparently it makes you overqualified for ” journalist”.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:33:22pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:33:42pm

re: #48 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Yeah! My point.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:33:55pm

re: #46 Kragar

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Be nice if some of our journalists read up about our history more.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:34:05pm

re: #34 Ziggy_TARDIS

It’s basic “I’m Not Blind” work.

Yeah, but I never ever look. meh

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:35:04pm

Wolf Street: Is Merger-Mania October the Classic Paroxysm before it All Comes Unglued?

October was merger-mania month with a pre-election surge during the waning days: five of the largest 11 US-focused Mergers & Acquisitions in 2016 were announced in the last 10 days of October, including two that broke all-time industry records.

The mania was topped off by two big announcements on Monday:

GE’s $25-billion acquisition of Baker Hughes. Since 2008, the M&A-meister, financial engineering specialist, and industrial powerhouse has gobbled up 51 companies of $1 billion or more in value.
CenturyLink’s $24-billion acquisition of Level 3 Communications.
In the prior days, three big deals made investment bankers salivate:

AT&T’s $85.7-billion deal to acquire Time Warner, announced on October 22, the hugest deal in the history of media, even huger than the prior hugest media deal ever, the AOL Time Warner deal that ended as a spectacular success along with the rest of the mania at the time. But Wall Street instantly refuted what everyone had been thinking from the very first moment, that this was most decidedly and in fact, doubtlessly, not the next AOL Time Warner.
Qualcomm’s $39.2-billion acquisition of NXP Semiconductors, announced October 27, the biggest deal in the history of the semiconductor industry.
British American Tobacco’s $46.9-billion acquisition of Reynolds American - the 57.8% it didn’t already own - announced on October 21.
This pushed US deal volume in October to $330.3 billion, the second highest month on record, after July’s $332.3 billion! And this comes after the all-time record year 2015.

And then there’s the lag time between the record-breaking mega merger data that blows a hole into the ship, and the sinking of the ship. The lag could be a year or longer.

For example, last time: Private equity firms KKR, TPG Capital, and Goldman Sachs Capital Partners announced in February 2007 that they would acquire the Texas utility TXU; the deal became final in October 2007. It was the biggest, most leveraged, craziest buyout ever, and it would ultimately collapse into bankruptcy. With hindsight, it was the final deal-making paroxysm. The stock market turned south the moment the deal became final, at first in a very casual manner. It took another 11 months before Lehman imploded and all heck broke lose.

Ya might want to read the whole thing.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:35:57pm

re: #46 Kragar

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But remember, CNN’s standard are so high that Donna Brazile had to leave for handing off a “no shit” question to the Clinton campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:36:01pm

re: #47 MsJ

Whichever way game 7 goes both clubs have made their respective cities proud.

I hope it’s a classic pitchers duel for the ages.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:37:20pm

re: #53 Eric The Fruit Bat

Wolf Street: Is Merger-Mania October the Classic Paroxysm before it All Comes Unglued?

Ya might want to read the whole thing.

Because I don’t have enough agita as it is?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:39:04pm

re: #56 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Well, there’s a hell of a lot of pushback on AT&T-Time Warner, so there’s that. Qualcomm-NXP is probably a sure bet, as for the others I have no idea right now.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:40:25pm

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:40:27pm

A very sweet Halloween poster from my town:

Salem, Mass.: Of Course You Don’t See Anything Unusual…
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:42:14pm

re: #59 Sherlock Hound

A very sweet Halloween poster from my town:

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I’d love to visit Salem one day. Lots of neat history. Always have wanted to explore NE more. I went to Boston once 11 years ago and I had a layover two summers ago but other than that I really haven’t explored the region.

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No Depression  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:42:57pm

So, uh, PBS is currently airing a debate between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein tonight. Who knew?

Oh, and here’s Jill’s answer to a question on climate change:

“By moving to zero fossil fuels, we save so much money that it’s actually enough to pay the costs of the green energy transformation. So when you balance out the savings in our healthcare and the savings in the military where we no longer need these wars for oil that consume half of our discretionary budget and almost half of your income taxes, we save so much money through those two offsets, also by moving our subsidies tens of billions into green energy subsidies that we can ensure that this is a win especially for poor people because they are the first in line for these jobs which are good wage, living wage, jobs.”

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:43:02pm

re: #41 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Those percentages are meaningless by themselves. If there are 100 Clinton supporters and 10 Trump supporters, I’ll take 36 over 5. But how you mark the oval isn’t affected by whether you’re very or somewhat excited.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:43:51pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:44:47pm

re: #61 No Depression

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:45:21pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I hope it’s a classic pitchers duel for the ages.

I hope it goes just like it did tonight. ;)

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:45:28pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

… He does this every election, but is especially bad this year because he needs a nail-biter next Tuesday if he wants to still have a job Nov 9th.

Nah. After the World Series the big money in sports gambling will be on football. 538 is ESPN’s way of serving its gambling constituency.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:47:06pm

re: #65 GlutenFreeJesus

I hope it goes just like it did tonight. ;)

Cubs certainly have momentum on their side. They’re hitting with authority. Russell’s grand slam was a no doubter.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:47:47pm

re: #61 No Depression

So, uh, PBS is currently airing a debate between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein tonight. Who knew?

Oh, and here’s Jill’s answer to a question on climate change:

Oh our two “real choices”.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:49:05pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

That is an impressive world salad from Stein. Palin-quality.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:49:44pm

re: #61 No Depression

So, uh, PBS is currently airing a debate between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein tonight. Who knew?

Susan Sarandon?

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:49:47pm

re: #61 No Depression

So, uh, PBS is currently airing a debate between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein tonight. Who knew?

Oh, and here’s Jill’s answer to a question on climate change:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:50:15pm

re: #69 Ziggy_TARDIS

That is an impressive world salad from Stein. Palin-quality.

There’s a reason why she’s never been elected and never will.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:50:19pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

My thoughts exactly.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:50:23pm

re: #69 Ziggy_TARDIS

That is an impressive world salad from Stein. Palin-quality.

I’ve seen her dubbed “Tofu Palin” in recent weeks.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:51:32pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

It’s apt.

I called her that once, I think.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:51:34pm

If that element of the left wants to be taken seriously, stop nominating people like Stein.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:51:37pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Cubs certainly have momentum on their side. They’re hitting with authority. Russell’s grand slam was a no doubter.

But Chris Cillizza says Cub’s fan enthusiasm is rapidly waning.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:52:22pm

re: #77 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

But Chris Cillizza says Cub’s fan enthusiasm is rapidly waning.

If the Cubs win, that’s the story through Election Day.

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danarchy  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:53:02pm

re: #29 Ziggy_TARDIS

This goes a bit beyond that.

The graph shows “enthusiasm” dipping to 43%.

However, the data from that poll shows it unchanged at 48%.

Looks like he may be referencing the same thing this article does:

washingtonpost.com

The tracking poll looks like it goes from 10/24-10/30, and they are referencing the last 2 days which came after the Friday Comey thing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:53:22pm

The two real choices snark refers to how Jill and Gary insist who the American people really want.

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No Depression  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:53:31pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

If that element of the left wants to be taken seriously, stop nominating people like Stein.

I don’t think they do. Being taken seriously means actually doing shit.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:54:01pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

If that element of the left wants to be taken seriously, stop nominating people like Stein.

A big “if”.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:54:26pm

re: #81 No Depression

I don’t think they do. Being taken seriously means actually doing shit.

I think that actually nails it here. Libertarians mostly want to be seen as doing something, whilst not doing any actual work to achieve it.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:56:02pm

re: #69 Ziggy_TARDIS

That is an impressive world salad from Stein. Palin-quality.

Tofu Palin in a nutshell.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:56:37pm

re: #18 William Lewis

Right now, the Republican Pollster Remington shows Clinton up by 4.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:56:38pm

re: #81 No Depression

I don’t think they do. Being taken seriously means actually doing shit.

In my observations of the far left in my FB timeline, they’d rather wallow in self pity than actually try to improve things. I hate that. Sorry, we’re not becoming Scandinavia overnight and honestly we should see what works best for our country anyhow since our country is different than those nations. Doesn’t mean we should dismiss them but it doesn’t mean we rush either.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:57:58pm

re: #83 thedopefishlives

I think that actually nails it here. Libertarians mostly want to be seen as doing something, whilst not doing any actual work to achieve it.

The far left too. Both are obnoxious when it comes to thumbing their noses at center left and center right people because we dare to consider the world around us.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:58:05pm

re: #81 No Depression

I don’t think they do. Being taken seriously means actually doing shit.

Which is what some of us on the left want and that’s why the DSA has always worked with the Democrats to try to get shit done.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:58:10pm

For anyone that missed this during the game…

JBL Waterproof Speakers: Water Dance

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:00:08pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

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Nah, that’s Gary Johnson. I recognize the squint.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:03:00pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart

The W flag flies once again in the Nebraska Panhandle!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:04:25pm

Stupid stat request: how does the winning league in the Wolrd Series match up against the Presidential election? In 1968 The Tigers won and Nixon was elected.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:04:41pm

I knew my Indians +190 Series bet would be a sweat.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:04:54pm

re: #90 retired cynic

Nah, that’s Gary Johnson. I recognize the squint.

That’s not a squint. It’s heavy eyelids.
Caused by the additional weight of THC in the blood stream

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:06:26pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:06:26pm
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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:06:50pm

re: #83 thedopefishlives

I think that actually nails it here. Libertarians mostly want to be seen as doing something, whilst not doing any actual work to achieve it.

Like trump.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:07:42pm

re: #92 Eric The Fruit Bat

Stupid stat request: how does the winning leage match up against the Presidential election?

americanhistory.about.com

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:10:11pm

Psychopathy: A personality disorder characterized by a lack of empathy and remorse, shallow affect, glibness, manipulation and callousness.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:11:15pm

re: #95 Frankie Five Angels

theatlantic.com

I dunno. Sports and politics mixed always confuses me. I remember thinking the Red Sox winning in 2004 would be positive mojo for Kerry but that was wrong.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:11:36pm

re: #95 Frankie Five Angels

theatlantic.com

Oy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:13:44pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

Psychopathy: A personality disorder characterized by a lack of empathy and remorse, shallow affect, glibness, manipulation and callousness.

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The right loves to whine about Soros but Thiel actually has open contempt for democratic government while Soros helped bring down communist rule in Eastern Europe.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:14:36pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

Psychopathy: A personality disorder characterized by a lack of empathy and remorse, shallow affect, glibness, manipulation and callousness.

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A businessman being an amoral asshole who believes the suffering of the majority is justifiable if the minority are making a fortune? Why I never heard of such a thing!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:15:04pm

re: #101 MsJ

Oy.

Just root for your teams. Sports are our distraction from this stuff anyhow. That said I did get a little chuckle with his remarks about Duke.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:20:35pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:22:12pm

The only real worry now is if all the voting restrictions might hurt in Wisconsin and Michigan.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:24:41pm

re: #106 Ziggy_TARDIS

Don’t get wound up again. Let that tension unravel. The news has been good tonight.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:26:15pm

re: #107 retired cynic

Don’t get wound up again. Let that tension unravel. The news has been good tonight.

Agreed and didn’t they have those same restrictions four years ago? Just not seeing how Trump wins either state.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:29:50pm

And, with this, I bid you all a good night…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:30:33pm

Anyhow sleep time for me.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:33:19pm

Did anyone notice? I just took off my cloths and ran through this post.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:34:49pm

Texas state Agricultural Commissioner Sid Miller went there, calling Hillary Clinton the “C” word on Twitter. (With screen shot because he took it down).

alternet.org

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:34:57pm

re: #111 Eventual Carrion

Did anyone notice? I just took off my cloths and ran through this post.

Here, drink this, it prevents streaking.

/

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:36:59pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

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Here, drink this, it prevents streaking.

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I was just listening to Ray Stevens “The Streak”. Love that song.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:39:49pm

re: #114 Eventual Carrion

I was just listening to Ray Stevens “The Streak”. Love that song.

We have an ‘opry’ here (we actually used to host it) and there is a guy who has toured all over the country doing ‘mimes’ to that and others. It is just hysterical, and the crowd always loves it, no matter how many times they’ve seen him do it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:40:05pm

Simon Johnson: The Consequences of a Trump Shock

WASHINGTON, DC - With the United States’ presidential election on November 8, and a series of elections and other political decisions fast approaching in Europe, now is a good time to ask whether the global economy is in good enough shape to withstand another major negative shock. The answer, unfortunately, is that growth and employment around the world look fragile. A big adverse surprise - like the election of Donald Trump in the US - would likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession.

Trump promises to boost US growth immediately to 4-5%, but this is pure fantasy. It is far more likely that his anti-trade policies would cause a sharp slowdown, much like the British are experiencing.
In fact, the impact of a Trump victory on the US could well be worse. Whereas British Prime Minister Theresa May’s government wants to close the UK’s borders to immigrants from the EU, it does want trade with the world. Trump, on the other hand, is determined to curtail imports through a variety of policies, all of which are well within the power of a president. He would not need congressional approval to slam the brakes on the US economy.

Even in the best of times, US policymakers often do not think enough about the impact of their actions on the rest of the world. Trump’s trade-led recession would tip Europe back into full-blown recession, which would likely precipitate a serious banking crisis. If this risk were not contained - and the probability of a European banking debacle is already disconcertingly high - there would be a further negative spiral. Either way, the effects on emerging markets and all lower-income countries would be dramatic.
Investors in the stock market currently regard a Trump presidency as a relatively low-probability development. But, while the precise consequences of bad policies are always hard to predict, if investors are wrong and Trump wins, we should expect a big markdown in expected future earnings for a wide range of stocks - and a likely crash in the broader market.

Simon Johnson, a former chief economist of the IMF, is a professor at MIT Sloan, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, and co-founder of a leading economics blog, The Baseline Scenario. He is the co-author, with James Kwak, of White House Burning: The Founding Fathers, Our National Debt, and Why It Matters to You.

(ok, I loathe that he’s involved in the Peterson Institute, but outside of that….)

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:41:21pm

A survey in Government Executive notes a large number of people would leave government service if Mr. Trump won the election.

govexec.com

In addition, …

As reported exclusively by Government Executive.

Hillary Clinton has cemented her lead over Donald Trump among federal government employees, according to an independent Government Business Council / govexec.com poll released on October 28, 2016. Clinton receives 53% of the vote, compared with 34% for Trump; in addition, Clinton holds a net favorability score 37 points higher than Trump’s.

Respondents voting for Clinton because they fully support her as a candidate (59%) outnumber those voting for her because she represents the most viable alternative to Trump (42%). The opposite is true for Trump voters: a majority support him because they see him as the most viable alternative to Clinton (62%), versus the 38% who fully support him as a candidate.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:51:05pm
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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:52:32pm

re: #118 Anymouse

I so agree with him. I’ve watched her on c-span in committee.

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No Depression  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:52:57pm
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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:54:28pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:57:23pm

Kook-o-Rama at Free Republic! They’re always nuts, of course, but this one sets a new standard.

They are past advocating a coup and are now claiming that one has already occurred:

SR 1309 - Silent Counter-Coup by 17 Intel Agencies To Stop Crooked Clintons

Good evening, I’m still reporting on an ongoing counter-coup being run by patriotic members of 17 U.S. intelligence agencies to stop the Clinton Crime syndicate from proceeding with the rigging of the coming election. According to a 4 minute video, done by Dr. Steve Pieczenik, a Harvard and MIT-educated psychiatrist who has written 26 New York Times Best Sellers, the Clinton coup has been put down by an intelligence community counter-coup, effective at noon today. Dr. Pieczenik has great contacts in the American intelligence community.

Note that in marked contrast to the usual RWNJ tin foilery, the claimants actually support this conspiracy.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:58:57pm

KellyAnne, Imho, took this job knowing she was leaving the profession. She doesn’t need a future, she already has it. I imagined Trump dumped a load of cash for her. Whatever, she’s going to get her book deals, interviews, speeches.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:59:37pm

re: #123 Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!

You’re assuming Trump actually ends up paying her

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:01:19pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

Kook-o-Rama at Free Republic! They’re always nuts, of course, but this one sets a new standard.

They are past advocating a coup and are now claiming that one has already occurred:

SR 1309 - Silent Counter-Coup by 17 Intel Agencies To Stop Crooked Clintons

Note that, in marked contrast to the usual RWNJ tin foilery, the claimants actually support this conspiracy.

The fellow they cite is a certifiable wingnut:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:02:33pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

Steve Pieczenik

Wikipedia:

In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush[clarification needed] was “clinically depressed”. As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA.[4]

He calls himself a “maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences.”[4]

The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy.[citation needed]

On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad.[31]

On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, “There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes.” He also criticised President Barack Obama, calling him an “obsessional pathological liar”.[32][33]

On September 16, 2012, during an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik stated that Israel planned to initiate war with Iran during Yom Kippur 2012 unless ex-Mossad and ex-Shin Bet agents assassinated Benjamin Netanyahu.[34]

On March 27, 2013, Pieczenik claimed that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a hoax and a false flag event.[35]

On 9 May 2013, Pieczenik claimed that the 2012 Benghazi attack was the result of a turf war between the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the military intelligence. He suggested that the CIA wished to get rid of General David Petraeus, and wanted to get John O. Brennan, through his illegal SOCOM unit, to arm Syria.[36]

Need I say more?

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:03:05pm
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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:12:45pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:13:01pm

re: #123 Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!

I imagined Trump dumped a load of cash for her.

HAH! Whatever. The Donald™ is going to stiff her because that’s how he rolls, he stiffs contractors that don’t do a good job for him.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:13:19pm

On the Iraqi army and its allies entering Mosul:

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:13:53pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

HAH! Whatever. The Donald™ is going to stiff her because that’s how he rolls, he stiff contractors that don’t do a good job for him.

Or just if he thinks he can get away with it.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:14:47pm

Speaking of The Donald™ screwing over the little guy …

Iframe

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whitebeach  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:15:48pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

Kook-o-Rama at Free Republic! They’re always nuts, of course, but this one sets a new standard.

They are past advocating a coup and are now claiming that one has already occurred:

SR 1309 - Silent Counter-Coup by 17 Intel Agencies To Stop Crooked Clintons

Note that, in marked contrast to the usual RWNJ tin foilery, the claimants actually support this conspiracy.

Steve Pieczenik, who is supposedly the source of this crap, is a Sandy Hook “truther,” a claimant that Osama bin Laden died of natural causes in 2001, an asshole buddy of Alex Jones, and generally and specifically loony.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:15:49pm

Whoa!

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EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:15:59pm

re: #130 Anymouse

It’s unusual to catch Jim Wright in an error, no matter how small.

Surely Trump’s self-bestowed military title is Greatest Field Commander of All TIme.

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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:20:01pm

Out of wine. Drinking a dram of Laphroiag Ten.

This cycle has left me just exhausted. We’ve done transport and phone banked for early voting. We’ve already voted for Hillary, sent another $500 to her campaign, and grabbed enough Hillary signs for the whole block, which pretty much everyone has stuck in their front yards.

And this in Texas, where our chances are nil to naught this year.

I’m pretty much in a fetal position and done. Call me when it’s over.

Forty percent of this country is filled with racists, Alt-Reich assholes, and useful idiots.

Fuck my life.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:22:22pm

re: #136 austin_blue

You’re a good couple, and we salute you!

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:22:38pm
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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:23:37pm

re: #136 austin_blue

Out of wine. Drinking a dram of Laphroiag Ten.

This cycle has left me just exhausted. We’ve done transport and phone banked for early voting. We’ve already voted for Hillary, sent another $500 to her campaign, and grabbed enough Hillary signs for the whole block, which pretty much everyone has stuck in their front yards.

And this in Texas, where our chances are nil to naught this year.

I’m pretty much in a fetal position and done. Call me when it’s over.

Forty percent of this country is filled with racists, Alt-Reich assholes, and useful idiots.

Fuck my life.

You could live in NE-3, where I can count the Hillary voters on one hand and I am afraid of putting a Clinton/Kaine sticker on my car for fear of it being rolled over.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:25:54pm

re: #139 Anymouse

I’m in a red pocket in a blue state, and while I think I would be safe putting up a sign, I notice nobody else is doing one hereabouts. Everybody is keeping their head below their shoulders and waiting for this to be over.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:28:48pm

re: #140 retired cynic

I’m in a red pocket in a blue state, and while I think I would be safe putting up a sign, I notice nobody else is doing one hereabouts. Everybody is keeping their head below their shoulders and waiting for this to be over.

I’m in the reddest pocket of a red state. The reddest pocket of the nation, at least according to 538’s polling models.

I got to turn in a mostly blank ballot because the only Democrats on the ballot were Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Kaine. The choices for all the Republicans running for every other office were a choice between crazy, wingnut, and loon.

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prairiefire  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:31:10pm

re: #140 retired cynic

Yes, in my pink state, the H/C voters have their signs close to their front door. The Trump supporters have 8 to 10 signs in the yard. Actually 8 to 10. I think there was a surplus.

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prairiefire  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:32:13pm

Shudder, 6 more days to go.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:33:13pm
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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:33:19pm

re: #142 prairiefire

Around here, the only signs are local, and they don’t say the party. There are good folks of both parties, but everyone is keeping their head down! There is one stretch of highway in a neighboring county where there are Trump signs, but that’s all. No bumper stickers, either. Everyone is just ready for this to be over!

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:35:32pm

re: #145 retired cynic

Around here, the only signs are local, and they don’t say the party. There are good folks of both parties, but everyone is keeping their head down! There is one stretch of highway in a neighboring county where there are Trump signs, but that’s all. No bumper stickers, either. Everyone is just ready for this to be over!

Over in Wyoming, every Republican candidate for any office has the GOP logo, while the few Democratic candidates do not.

Here in the Nebr. Panhandle, some GOP candidates are using blue signs.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:37:46pm
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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:40:35pm

re: #147 Anymouse

Sometimes it seems like that is so true. I hope it is not, but watching the basket of deplorables, it seems to be true.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:45:14pm

re: #148 retired cynic

Sometimes it seems like that is so true. I hope it is not, but watching the basket of deplorables, it seems to be true.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Was a homeless vet myself and witnessed basically the same thing from 1996 until 2007, when my current wife did her part for ending vet homelessness by marrying me (::

VoteVets in a new ad buy:

WASHINGTON, DC - VoteVets PAC and Priorities USA are releasing a new television ad today titled “Michelle,” featuring Michelle DeFord, who lost her son, SGT. David Johnson, to a roadside bomb, in Iraq. SGT. Johnson joined the National Guard after 9/11.

In the ad, DeFord painfully describes the “sound of the boots” walking up the stairs, when she received a next-of-kin notification of her son’s death. She says when she watched Donald Trump’s interview, in which he questioned Ghazala Khan not speaking at the Democratic National Convention, she felt “such a sense of outrage.”

She goes on to say, “I would like to tell Donald Trump what it feels like; the sense of emptiness, that only losing a child can bring. Those people should be honored and treated with kindness for the rest of their life. And I don’t think Donald Trump will ever understand that.”

“Michelle”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:46:01pm

More fallout from Brexit:

Britain’s service sector will see its exports drop up to 60 per cent after leaving the European single market, even with a free-trade agreement with the EU in place, according to research from a leading think-tank.

A new study from the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, to be published on Wednesday, says that signing a free-trade agreement with the EU will not recoup any loss in services exports, but would reduce the long-term fall in goods exports from between 58-65 per cent to between 35-44 per cent.

…In theory, the falls in exports could be reduced if Britain managed to sign a deep bilateral agreement with the EU, including good coverage of the services sector. But Monique Ebell, the author of the report, said: “The average FTA for services at the moment is not very comprehensive and tends not to do very much.”

In 2014, 40 per cent of Britain’s services trade, and 56 per cent of its goods trade, was with other European Economic Area members, meaning that the overall fall in British exports would be 24 per cent for services and 20-25 per cent for goods.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:49:10pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:50:45pm

Go check out today’s Non Sequitur….

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:54:28pm

The attacks against Donald Trump on the various Gold Star Family hashtags over at Twitter keep coming any time a Trumpette posts on them. We haven’t forgotten.

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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:55:43pm

re: #150 Eric The Fruit Bat

More fallout from Brexit:

A fine time to visit the UK! Fish and chips, outstanding beers, and cheap B&Bs will be available at dead cheap prices. We toddle over every year, and this trip will be one of our most economical this Easter.

The real ales at the Cloisters pub in Edinburgh will taste the sweeter.

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whitebeach  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:55:52pm

re: #136 austin_blue

Out of wine. Drinking a dram of Laphroiag Ten.

Shoulda started with and stayed with the Laphroiag. Scotch is for heroes, wine is for winos.

This cycle has left me just exhausted. We’ve done transport and phone banked for early voting. We’ve already voted for Hillary, sent another $500 to her campaign, and grabbed enough Hillary signs for the whole block, which pretty much everyone has stuck in their front yards.

Thank you, and I think I say this for almost everybody here.

And this in Texas, where our chances are nil to naught this year.

I don’t want to engage in crude generalizations, but WTF is with Texas? I have a brother and four cousins scattered around that state, and only my brother hates Trump and supports Clinton. The cousins started out as three intelligent young men and one very intelligent young woman but morphed over the years into crazed Baptists terminally addicted to the worst foolishness that the hard right wing has to offer. No offense intended, but if it were up to me I’d give the place back to Mexico in a New York instant.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:56:59pm

Well, here we are.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:58:08pm

re: #155 whitebeach

Shoulda started with and stayed with the Laphroiag. Scotch is for heroes, wine is for winos.

And rum is for sailors.

Thank you, and I think I say this for almost everybody here.

I don’t want to engage in crude generalizations, but WTF is with Texas? I have a brother and four cousins scattered around that state, and only my brother hates Trump and supports Clinton. The cousins started out as three intelligent young men and one very intelligent young woman but morphed over the years into crazed Baptists terminally addicted to the worst foolishness that the hard right wing has to offer. No offense intended, but if it were up to me I’d give the place back to Mexico in a New York instant.

Mexico would consider that an act of war.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:58:27pm
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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:01:00pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:03:41pm

If there’s one last oppo shoe to drop, here’s hoping it comes Friday.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:05:28pm

My wife and I were scheduled to go to a dine-out in Cheyenne tomorrow. She wants me to cancel so we can stay home and listen to the Cubs and Indians game on WSCR tomorrow.

As a long-suffering Cubs fan, she doesn’t want to miss what might be the only time in her life hearing the Cubs win the World Series.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:11:03pm

re: #147 Anymouse

Forgive me for having no compassion for McCain. How do I have a modicum of respect for him when he has none for himself. He never defended himself from trumps disgusting words; worse, he supported trump.

Sorry McCain. No sympathy from me.

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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:11:53pm

re: #155 whitebeach

Shoulda started with and stayed with the Laphroiag. Scotch is for heroes, wine is for winos.

Thank you, and I think I say this for almost everybody here.

I don’t want to engage in crude generalizations, but WTF is with Texas? I have a brother and four cousins scattered around that state, and only my brother hates Trump and supports Clinton. The cousins started out as three intelligent young men and one very intelligent young woman but morphed over the years into crazed Baptists terminally addicted to the worst foolishness that the hard right wing has to offer. No offense intended, but if it were up to me I’d give the place back to Mexico in a New York instant.

It’s a puzzlement, isn’t it? My gerrymandered district runs from San Antonio through portions of South Austin and into downtown. Lamar Smith (Incumbent-Mars) only flies on planes with two right wings. Anti-science whackadoodle.

The AG is going to trial, the Lt. Gov. (the most powerful man in the State) is a RWNJ with an expanding mine field of crazy, and our Governor is a travesty.

The stupid burns here bigly, and it’s going to take a while to turn it around. The Alt-Reich is very well entrenched here. That’s a big part of the problem.

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whitebeach  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:13:01pm

re: #161 Anymouse

My wife and I were scheduled to go to a dine-out in Cheyenne tomorrow. She wants me to cancel so we can stay home and listen to the Cubs and Indians game on WSCR tomorrow.

As a long-suffering Cubs fan, she doesn’t want to miss what might be the only time in her life hearing the Cubs win the World Series.

Look, with the parameters you’ve stated here, staying home and listening to the game is a win-win, even if the Cubbies lose. But tell me: Isn’t there a sports bar somewhere in Cheyenne that has decent food and where you can actually watch the game while you have dinner and a drink or two?

Signed, Ann Landers

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:14:58pm
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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:24:47pm

Trump is placing a long-shot bet to win a handful of states. It could overturn the electoral map

With one week before election day, Donald Trump spent the bulk of Tuesday campaigning in Wisconsin, a state that has not backed a Republican for president since 1984.

His unorthodox visit came on the heels of trips to Michigan and Pennsylvania, states that also haven’t gone red since the 1980s.

For the final stretch of the presidential race, the GOP nominee has embarked on a strategy of long-shot bids, holding rallies and airing ads in states that have been reliably Democratic in recent elections. Trump’s gambit sacrifices face time in battleground states, but if successful would upend the political map and likely hand him the White House.

“The Trump campaign is on the offensive and expanding our presence in battleground states into blue states,” David Bossie, Trump’s deputy campaign manager, told reporters Tuesday.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:32:26pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:35:18pm

re: #167 Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!

Eh? The chorus to this song is

Fight Fire With Fire
The ending is near
Fight Fire With Fire
Bursting with fear

We all shall die!

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:40:00pm
Do unto others as they’ve done to you
But what the hell is this world coming to?

Blow the universe into nothingness
Nuclear warfare shall lay us to rest

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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:41:39pm

Night all. Sweet scaly dreams.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:43:17pm

re: #166 Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!

That’s scary if he flips Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:44:12pm

re: #164 whitebeach

Look, with the parameters you’ve stated here, staying home and listening to the game is a win-win, even if the Cubbies lose. But tell me: Isn’t there a sports bar somewhere in Cheyenne that has decent food and where you can actually watch the game while you have dinner and a drink or two?

Signed, Ann Landers

The place the dine out is scheduled is at a truck stop six miles east of Cheyenne. They don’t have any televisions I am aware of (as we’ve been there before).

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 12:15:07am

huffingtonpost.com

Hugh Hewitt thinks James Comey shouldn’t clear up E-mail case if it clears Clinton. Nope, not a hack.

He also things Democrats should vote for Tofu Palin.

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freetoken  Nov 2, 2016 • 12:18:29am

In other news:

Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Princess Mette Marit visit eastern Oslo

His Royal Highness Crown Prince Haakon and Her Royal Highness Crown Princess Mette Marit of Norway were on an official visit today to the district «Gamle Oslo” in Norway’s capital, Oslo.

[…]

The visit to “Gamle Oslo” was concluded in Oslo prison. Here the Crown Prince and the Crown Princess met several of the inmates and learned more about the opportunities adult inmates have to educate themselves while they are serving their time. Just before they left the prison, the two were served food and coffee made by inmates attending the prison’s barista course.

“Gamle Oslo” (English: Old Oslo) is a part of Oslo with a bad reputation. Crime rates are high compared to the rest of Oslo and many parts of the district are marked by cultures of ethnic minorities from the Middle East and Asia. This area in Oslo has a lot of medieval buildings. It has therefore been natural to highlight this and present Oslo’s history as a medieval town for locals and tourists.

How very modern of them.

Anyway, the “ethnic minorities” are relatively few in Norway, as unlike next door Sweden, they don’t let in many immigrants.

Haakon himself carries the name of great men of old, but his claim to the throne is not based on the old Viking kings and he’s no more descended from them than I. Rather, the current Norwegian royal family is from the Dano-German House of Glücksburg which is from cadet lines (ducal) from the same stock the have sprouted so much of the current European royal families. The Norwegian royal family recently have only existed by marrying in Swedish and Welch women.

Anyway, I guess one can’t have a kingdom without a king, so long live the king, I guess.

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Cheechako  Nov 2, 2016 • 12:36:17am

re: #172 Anymouse

The place the dine out is scheduled is at a truck stop six miles east of Cheyenne. They don’t have any televisions I am aware of (as we’ve been there before).

Most truck stops I’ve visited have TVs in a lounge area and many have them in the dining area. Call ahead and check.

Good luck!

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freetoken  Nov 2, 2016 • 1:21:07am

So I go to pay my internet bill… and discover that Cox has raised prices again. I don’t remember them emailing me of the changes, if they did.

Here’s what it says on the bill this month:

To support these ongoing product and technology investments and increases in business costs, we are making changes to our Internet rates effective October 6, 2016. These changes will be reflected on this bill statement. If you are a Price Lock Guarantee customer or
currently have an active Service Agreement, the rates for services covered under the terms of your Price Lock Guarantee or Service Agreement will not change for the duration of your agreement. Your covered services are indicated in the Monthly Services section of your bill. We appreciate your business and look forward to continuing to serve you.

Price changes for Cox High Speed Internet are as follows: Starter changes from $37.99 to $39.99. Essential changes from $56.99 to $59.99. Preferred changes from $69.99 to $74.99. Premier changes from $82.99 to $84.99.

I can’t see where I’ve benefited from any improvement.

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freetoken  Nov 2, 2016 • 1:22:46am

The bottom line for Cox is that slowly customers are not going for the pay TV services and streaming online. So they are raising prices for internet connection to make up for it.

This is why the term “cord cutting” when it comes to people dropping TV subscriptions is usually a misnomer. You still have a “cord”, but now the charges are just called “internet”.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 1:44:02am

wonkette.com

Idiot: Liberals Using Witchcraft to Make People Think Rape and Racism Are Wrong

That would be Lance Wallnau on the Jim Bakker Show.

Of course, never did I think anyone on the other side would find out about these nefarious activities — but alas, Lance Wallnau is ONTO US. In an appearance on The Jim Bakker Show, Wallnau (who calls himself a “catalytic thought leader,” which does not seem like a real thing), told everyone all about our secret plans to release spirits into the world for the purpose of confusing conservatives.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 1:45:08am

re: #177 freetoken

The bottom line for Cox is that slowly customers are not going for the pay TV services and streaming online. So they are raising prices for internet connection to make up for it.

This is why the term “cord cutting” when it comes to people dropping TV subscriptions is usually a misnomer. You still have a “cord”, but now the charges are just called “internet”.

I have a cord. It is attached to my dial telephone and my ADSL modem. No cable cord, because we have no cable here.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 1:55:37am
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Alyosha  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:06:02am

Senator from Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Party.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:14:15am

I’m so fucking past Megan McCain’s look-at-me-I’m-smart-because-I-think-both-sides-are-bad spoiled brat bullshit.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:15:00am

Wingnuts arrested in Georgia plotting to go to Alaska to blow up the HAARP research facility to “release souls”:

adn.com

Now if we just named it Radical Christian Terrorism it would all go away, right Conservatives? Maybe prohibit Christians from entering the country until we can do some extreme vetting?

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Nyet  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:15:41am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:21:33am

re: #184 Nyet

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Yeah, it’s good to note that. However, Trump’s RICO trial starts on November 27th. That’s the real deal.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:23:00am
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:30:30am

We cut the cord and AT&T Uverse instituted caps. The cap was 600 GB a month for ‘Internet Only’ plans. We were using 1400 GB a month, so now we are paying an extra $30 for unlimited.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:36:14am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:37:57am
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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:41:25am

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Anymouse, this should be up your alley:

‘Boob Island?’: Stephen Colbert ridicules Trump-penned BDSM novel written at a ‘4th grade level’

Sadly, it’s out of print….

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SMH. No the stuff I edit is written by adults. BDSM, sure, that is one of the themes of my company’s Romance novels, but not the tripe Cobert read.

Is that for real?

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Nyet  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:45:18am

Can you imagine Trump writing a short story, much less a novel?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:47:23am

re: #191 Nyet

Can you imagine Trump writing a short story, much less a novel?

No, but I can imagine him saying he’d pay someone to ghostwrite it under his name.

And then stiffing them.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:51:01am

Gag: It is for real. Trump is also hawking copies of it, though it is out of print.

esquire.com

According to the Huffington Post, Trump Tower is hawking copies of Trump Tower, the “sexiest novel of the decade,” as of this month. The 2012 novel, which hinges on erotica before spiraling into murder mystery, is apparently wildly sexist: Women are hypersexualized and critiqued; nonconsensual sex (ie. sexual assault) is glorified. Trump Tower also contains such winning lines as “precisely what every guy needs … a little pussy,” and this gem:

Although she’d lately added blonde mesh highlights to her dark hair, her big, hazel eyes were the same as when they helped to make her famous, and her high cheekbones were the same, and her legs were the same but, as Belasco had already discovered—being two or three pounds heavier than she’d been as a teenager—she now had absolutely gorgeous breasts.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 2:53:17am
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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:00:38am

I edit stuff like this:

BL/XmeGVOtkfe44OEN3J31y9/DQ6UHNWLHA3UauNMwGtGQvFiMAh9IU4/E69g7zg/e3ePot2LubyCUa3uRRNc3K2kA4N/yHK+omHb9RtJquy3nr2nPXSyysFBl9g3iOi

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:05:45am
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Nyet  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:06:49am

re: #195 Anymouse

No offense, but Trump’s pitch is better :P

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:07:12am

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

Much respect to Olivia Nuzzi, but she definitely needs to brush up on her knowledge of planetary movement

Yes, it is the Sun which revolves around the Earth!!!

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:11:33am

re: #197 Nyet

No offense, but Trump’s pitch is better :P

The write-up over at Alibris doesn’t do the book justice.

It includes a great deal of speculation about the state of computer science in the near future, as well as Jewish legend and history, as well as a corporate murder mystery subplot.

A much better review of the book can be found here:

science-fiction-review.com

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Nyet  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:17:20am
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Teukka  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:20:52am

re: #200 Nyet

Alt-right radio.

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I object. It is an insult to amplitude modulation and analogue radio.

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Nyet  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:22:08am

re: #200 Nyet

So as not to sow confusion, the number is just a coincidence which I found amusing.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:24:39am

re: #202 Nyet

So as not to sow confusion, the number is just a coincidence which I found amusing.

Ah.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:30:07am

Just opened my print copy of VFW Magazine, where they contrast the platforms of Republicans and Democrats for veteran affairs and such.

One thing jumps out of the Republican platform: promote faith-based programmes for opioid addiction and PTSD.

Another thing: Privatise everything they can lay their hands on.

A third thing: change veteran appointments to political appointments to VA positions.

Democratic platform: Strengthen the VA system, strengthen the Post 9/11 GI bill, &c.

The VFW gave its Congressional Award last year to Senator Bernie Sanders for his tireless work pushing veterans issues in the Senate. Much of Sanders veterans platform is adopted into the Democratic Platform now.

And yet, a bunch of veterans are going to vote for the GOP all the way down. I don’t get it.

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Nyet  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:47:55am

For PLL and others concerned about the AA turnout.
m.dailykos.com

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:49:52am

re: #204 Anymouse

Just opened my print copy of VFW Magazine, where they contrast the platforms of Republicans and Democrats for veteran affairs and such.

One thing jumps out of the Republican platform: promote faith-based programmes for opioid addiction and PTSD.

Another thing: Privatise everything they can lay their hands on.

A third thing: change veteran appointments to political appointments to VA positions.

Democratic platform: Strengthen the VA system, strengthen the Post 9/11 GI bill, &c.

The VFW gave its Congressional Award last year to Senator Bernie Sanders for his tireless work pushing veterans issues in the Senate. Much of Sanders veterans platform is adopted into the Democratic Platform now.

And yet, a bunch of veterans are going to vote for the GOP all the way down. I don’t get it.

There are levels of motivation deeper than economics and even racism. The career military is going to attract a lot of people with an authoritarian bent. Good thing when you’re trying to seize an objective, bad thing when you’re trying to adapt to a changing
reality.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:52:05am

Christ… A friend of mine (Army Veteran, was part of Allied Force) just shared this on FB. I think everyone posting in the comments ought to be sterilized for their own good… There are actual Nazis and every kind of lunatic you can imagine posting in there.

The Hillary Clinton Takeover of the United States

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:54:34am

re: #205 Nyet

For PLL and others concerned about the AA turnout.
m.dailykos.com

When canvassing FL, we hit a persistent low level of resistance to vote-by-mail. Governor Valdemort and his nutcase FL SoS have given people a reasonable fear of ‘remote’ voting methods.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:55:05am

re: #207 Pawn of the Oppressor

Nope. Not clicking on it. You can’t make me.

Meanwhile, Maureen Dowd trying to ingratiate herself with long suffering Cubs fans for some unknown reason:

Image: 7d4fe85d01e640b4f1b08193b488ffb81f4e3fd71342ae6cdeb15dae444804b6.png

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 3:59:26am

re: #207 Pawn of the Oppressor

Christ… A friend of mine (Army Veteran, was part of Allied Force) just shared this on FB. I think everyone posting in the comments ought to be sterilized for their own good… There are actual Nazis and every kind of lunatic you can imagine posting in there.

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I find it depressingly fascinating that people who have authoritarian inclinations assume that every candidate for president — especially the opposition candidate — will become a dictator once in office, but at the same time welcome promises by their own candidate to do things only a dictator could do.

Hillary can not take over the USA any more than Trump can build a wall across the southern border.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:04:27am

re: #210 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I find it depressingly fascinating that people who have authoritarian inclinations assume that every candidate for president — especially the opposition candidate — will become a dictator once in office, but at the same time welcome promises by their own candidate to do things only a dictator could do.

Hillary can not take over the USA any more than Trump can build a wall across the southern border.

The general Trump cites in his rallies is Patton, not Eisenhower.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:06:11am

re: #210 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I find it depressingly fascinating that people who have authoritarian inclinations assume that every candidate for president — especially the opposition candidate — will become a dictator once in office, but at the same time welcome promises by their own candidate to do things only a dictator could do.

Hillary can not take over the USA any more than Trump can build a wall across the southern border.

And if your only mode of operation is authoritarianism, you won’t last long in the military anyway.

While when an order is given and expected to be followed, most of the military is not about giving orders, and several leadership styles have to be employed (a coach, a democrat, an authoritarian, a coercer, &c) depending on the situation. If you are stuck on one leadership style you will not be a leader very long; not even in the middle enlisted ranks.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:13:59am

Here are my questions that I never see properly answered by BLEIVARS:

1. If the architects of mega-conspiracies have such godlike power to manipulate international events at a whim, what makes you think they give a shit about your feelings in the first place? Are you special?

2. If some person or group is so powerful that they can do these things, why do they need to? Surely these mega-rich puppetmasters have everything they need or want at their disposal. Are they just bored?

I don’t see why a Rothschild Lizard Alien Jew Banker Elite would take time off from cruising on his yacht on the Croatian coast to bother manipulating U.S. elections. If the system is already created and maintained by this mysterious Cabal, then aren’t conspiracies just maintenance actions? Wouldn’t the International Lizard Jew Alien just have his lackeys keep the system running for him?

And isn’t the “revolution” the puppetmasters allegedly fear, actually kind of… You know… Communist in nature? People rising up and taking back the power? Or is that just a false idea planted by Lizard Jew Sony Corp through Rage Against The Machine Lyrics, to keep us distracted and feeling hope when there is none?

I’M SO CONFUSED

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Nyet  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:14:13am

“Would you leave YOUR daughter with Donald Trump?”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:16:54am

re: #211 Decatur Deb

The general Trump cites in his rallies is Patton, not Eisenhower.

Patton was an ass, from what I gather. Eisenhower got the job done without being an ass.

re: #212 Anymouse

And if your only mode of operation is authoritarianism, you won’t last long in the military anyway.

While when an order is given and expected to be followed, most of the military is not about giving orders, and several leadership styles have to be employed (a coach, a democrat, an authoritarian, a coercer, &c) depending on the situation. If you are stuck on one leadership style you will not be a leader very long; not even in the middle enlisted ranks.

Interesting to hear that. I never served, so I have a poor idea of how things really work along the chain of command. But what you say makes perfect sense. If every officer/NCO were a by-the-book dictator or yes-man, most recruits would bail out before their time was up, and no one would feel free to offer advice.

From my experience in education and else, the same holds true. The kind of authoritarian figure you describe doesn’t stay in his job very long.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:17:23am

“I want to stop the globalist conspiracy, so I’m going to vote for the guy who’s in bed with the Kremlin”

Yup, makes a ton of sense. Jeezus.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:20:41am

re: #213 Pawn of the Oppressor

Here are my questions that I never see properly answered by BLEIVARS:

1. If the architects of mega-conspiracies have such godlike power to manipulate international events at a whim, what makes you think they give a shit about your feelings in the first place?

2. If some person or group is so powerful that they can do these things, why do they need to? Surely these mega-rich puppetmasters have everything they need or want at their disposal. Are they just bored?

I don’t see why a Rothschild Lizard Alien Jew Banker Elite would take time off from cruising on his yacht on the Croatian coast to bother manipulating U.S. elections. If the system is already created and maintained by this mysterious Cabal, then aren’t conspiracies just maintenance actions? Wouldn’t the International Lizard Jew Alien just have his lackeys keep the system running for him?

And isn’t the “revolution” the puppetmasters allegedly fear, actually kind of… You know… Communist in nature? People rising up and taking back the power? Or is that just a false idea planted by Lizard Jew Sony Corp through Rage Against The Machine Lyrics, to keep us distracted and feeling hope when there is none?

I’M SO CONFUSED

You see, it’s working! That’s part of their plan, to leave us so confused that we won’t notice they have taken over everything until it’s too late. Wake up sheeples!!

If you play Rage Against the Machine lyrics backwards, they say “buy more Sony stuff, and go see Sony Pictures productions NOW!”

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:21:09am

re: #202 Nyet

So as not to sow confusion, the number is just a coincidence which I found amusing.

Well, 538 is really 5+3=8 and 8….

JK

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:21:52am

re: #215 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Interesting to hear that. I never served, so I have a poor idea of how things really work along the chain of command. But what you say makes perfect sense. If every officer/NCO were a by-the-book dictator or yes-man, most recruits would bail out before their time was up, and no one would feel free to offer advice.

From my experience in education and else, the same holds true. The kind of authoritarian figure you describe doesn’t stay in his job very long.

Officers are not compelled to solicit or take advice from their subordinates, but only a very poor officer does not do so.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:23:03am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Officers are not compelled to solicit or take advice from their subordinates, but only a very poor officer does not do so.

Like Trump, you mean

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:24:16am

re: #217 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

If her first two executive orders AREN’T global disarmament, and turning control of the government over to Space Jew Lizard Aliens, I’m going to be very, very disappointed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:25:33am

re: #221 Pawn of the Oppressor

If her first two executive orders AREN’T global disarmament, and turning control of the government over to Space Jew Lizard Aliens, I’m going to be very, very disappointed.

I want mandatory Lesbian Farming!!!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:28:13am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I saw that movie! But it was very confusing, because there wasn’t a lot of farming in it.

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Teukka  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:28:57am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:30:28am

re: #223 Pawn of the Oppressor

I saw that movie! But it was very confusing, because there wasn’t a lot of farming in it.

That was the one with the female travelling salesman and the farmer’s daughter, right? No farming, but there was some cultivation, as I recall. //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:31:33am

re: #223 Pawn of the Oppressor

I saw that movie! But it was very confusing, because there wasn’t a lot of farming in it.

Spinal Tap also addressed that topic.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:32:47am

re: #215 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Interesting to hear that. I never served, so I have a poor idea of how things really work along the chain of command. But what you say makes perfect sense. If every officer/NCO were a by-the-book dictator or yes-man, most recruits would bail out before their time was up, and no one would feel free to offer advice.

From my experience in education and else, the same holds true. The kind of authoritarian figure you describe doesn’t stay in his job very long.

Well, an example might be like this:

During the Persian Gulf War, I was stationed in Spain, running the Com/Nav avionics repair shop. When I first took over the shop, it was in miserable shape (giant backlog, only one qualified inspector, morale dismal as it had gone through five supervisors in one year; the division officer actually gave me a choice not to take charge of that shop when I checked in).

Naval Reservists started augmenting our shop in the run-up to the war; every plane on the way to Saudi Arabia stopped in at Rota and every single item in the planes if they didn’t work perfectly came through to be repaired.

Getting that backlog worked off without POing the rest of the shop involved using all of those leadership skills.

The folks in charge were authoritarian: Get your backlog worked off. (Of note, don’t care how you do it as long as it’s legal.)

When I took over the shop, the shop was divided into two twelve-hour shifts, working seven days a week. Not a real morale booster.

I settled into my job of running a shop and brought the whole workcrew together at shift change to brainstorm ideas for reducing our backlog and getting a break of the awful hours (democratic leadership style).

Batted down one reservist (privately) who was whining about how he was an engineer in Connecticut making twenty times his enlisted pay taking orders from a high school educated shop supervisor (me, who outranked him) - I don’t care what you do in Connecticut, you signed the contract, you’re here now, you’ll do the work or you go see the Captain (authoritarian and coersion).

Encouraged as many people as I could to take the Quality Assurance examinations to become avionics collateral duty inspectors, to relieve the workload on our one guy who was on call twenty-four hours a day (coach).

Within a couple months, the shop’s backlog was down to manageable levels, morale was way up, we were on eight-hour five day shifts (two).

A military supervisor is really not that much different than a civilian one, though you do have a) the benefit of rules and regulations you can enforce and b) you do not have the “FU” I quit option.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:33:35am

cnn.com

Federal judge blasts Florida secretary of state in voting case

“A federal judge blasted Florida officials Sunday night, calling a provision of state law that rejects some vote-by-mail ballots “obscene” disenfranchisement and directing officials to take steps to fix how some of those ballots are processed in the battleground state. “

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William Lewis  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:37:03am

re: #200 Nyet

Alt-right radio.

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As an aside, that’s a beautiful old AM only transistor radio circuit board. 4 AA batteries, the Sony name and a really low serial number implies the TR55 of August 1955. Neat!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:38:17am

re: #227 Anymouse

A military supervisor is really not that much different than a civilian one, though you do have a) the benefit of rules and regulations you can enforce and b) you do not have the “FU” I quit option.

This is how schools ideally should work, but rarely don’t. Teachers are often in the unfortunate circumstance of being a supervisor with no support from the administration or department head. So, if there’s a kid giving you trouble, there may be no one in the office willing to back up the teacher’s interpretation of the rules.

Teacher morale is much better when they know the administration trusts them and has their back when dealing with troublesome students, and need I say it? troublesome parents.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:41:14am

re: #229 William Lewis

As an aside, that’s a beautiful old AM only transistor radio circuit board. 4 AA batteries, the Sony name and a really low serial number implies the TR55 of August 1955. Neat!

I still fondly remember a little Toshiba transistor radio I got as a kid, maybe when I was 6 or 7. Pocket sized (if you had a big pocket) and a truly ugly shade of yellow. Ran off two AAs. It was the 1960s version of the iPod.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:43:41am

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I still fondly remember a little Toshiba transistor radio I got as a kid, maybe when I was 6 or 7. Pocket sized (if you had a big pocket) and a truly ugly shade shade of yellow. Ran off two AAs. It was the 1960s version of the iPod.

They say that a lot of bands like Credence Clearwater Revival, owe part of their popularity for the fact that they sounded good coming out of a transistor radio.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:46:44am

re: #230 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This is how schools ideally should work, but rarely don’t. Teachers are often in the unfortunate circumstance of being a supervisor with no support from the administration or department head. So, if there’s a kid giving you trouble, there may be no one in the office willing to back up the teacher’s interpretation of the rules.

Teacher morale is much better when they know the administration trusts them and has their back when dealing with troublesome students, and need I say it? troublesome parents.

Growing up with my grandmother (who was a schoolteacher at the time), she noted the same sorts of problems. Teachers catch crap from their students, from administrators, and from parents. (Not all of them, but enough to make a teacher’s job tougher than it needs to be.)

“Go easy on Johnny, he’s the mayor’s son.”
“My Freddie can’t get an F on his exam, he’ll get kicked off the football team.” (Coach: You better not give Freddie an F.)

Yup. Takes a strong and sensitive person to be a teacher. I don’t think I could do it. I respected the teachers my son had growing up; I always thought their job was tougher than mine in the Navy.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2016 • 4:56:56am

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I still fondly remember a little Toshiba transistor radio I got as a kid, maybe when I was 6 or 7. Pocket sized (if you had a big pocket) and a truly ugly shade of yellow. Ran off two AAs. It was the 1960s version of the iPod.

I loved my old Sears transistor radio, from back when they would tell you how many transistors they had* (for comparison purposes: 7.) Its best feature though, was that it took one of the old 9-volt mercury batteries—absolutely full output until they suddenly died over about 10 minutes. No gradually turning the volume up and distortion increasing as the voltage continually sagged. I’m sure mercury batteries have been banned now.

*Some of them wired up transistors as diodes to run up the count, but I don’t think Sears was guilty of that.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:01:04am

re: #233 Anymouse

Growing up with my grandmother (who was a schoolteacher at the time), she noted the same sorts of problems. Teachers catch crap from their students, from administrators, and from parents. (Not all of them, but enough to make a teacher’s job tougher than it needs to be.)

“Go easy on Johnny, he’s the mayor’s son.”
“My Freddie can’t get an F on his exam, he’ll get kicked off the football team.” (Coach: You better not give Freddie an F.)

Yup. Takes a strong and sensitive person to be a teacher. I don’t think I could do it. I respected the teachers my son had growing up; I always thought their job was tougher than mine in the Navy.

It’s worse here in China, because the unwritten rule at universities is no one fails. If a student fails a final exam, he or she can take it again at the beginning of the next term. I quickly got the message that failing them again was not worth it, as the mark would be changed before being submitted to the university computer system. I’m not a hard grader by any means, but my Chinese students get away with a lot more lackadaisical attitude toward study than I would ever allow in an American classroom.

Another uni made headlines this year by kicking out several students who were skipping classes and failing exams, which universities here apparently rarely do. The students were allowed to return on probation and had to make up the credits they missed.

Private high schools in the USA have a similar problem, as there are few parents willing to accept the idea that their pampered golden child is a total fuck up in school and should be allowed to fail if he/she deserves it. I had a few parent-teacher conferences where I had to carefully explain to the parents, showing them the kid’s grades, why Johnny or Susie got such a low mark. Teaching the parents is more exhausting than teaching the kids, let me tell you.

An anecdote, to demonstrate what I mean. Every year, we’d have open house and invite parents to go through an abbreviated version of their child’s schedule. Two moms were talking in the back of the room before “class” began. After I started the “class” they were still talking, for a good 2-3 minutes! After they introduced themselves, I understood completely why their kids were such Chatty Cathies in class. Apples. Trees.

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steve_davis  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:10:26am

re: #140 retired cynic

I’m in a red pocket in a blue state, and while I think I would be safe putting up a sign, I notice nobody else is doing one hereabouts. Everybody is keeping their head below their shoulders and waiting for this to be over.

I’m in a red pocket of a red state. If the Low Country was all that voted, we’d be reliably blue, but the Upstate Jonesers keep us in bondage. If the Iraq army could roll through at some point and rid us of Bob Isis University, that would be a good thing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:13:38am

From Reuters and Yahoo Finance:

Investors take fright at rising chances of Trump U.S. election win

By Jamie McGeever

LONDON (Reuters) - World stocks, the dollar and oil fell on Wednesday, while safe-haven assets such as gold and the Swiss franc rose as investors were rattled by signs the U.S. presidential race was tightening just days before the vote.

Investors were beginning to rethink their long-held bets of a Nov. 8 victory for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton amid signs her Republican rival Donald Trump could be closing the gap, deepening the recent decline across major stock markets.

Asian stocks hit a seven-week low on Wednesday, while European bourses followed Wall Street’s lead overnight and slid to a four-month low.

Bonds rose alongside gold, the Swiss franc and Japanese yen, with the yield on 10-year U.S. Treasuries falling for the third day in a row. British gilts, which have recently been slammed by uncertainty surrounding the post-Brexit UK outlook, surged too.

finance.yahoo.com

I follow the Bitcoin news, too, and Bitcoin prices have also been higher these past two weeks, approaching $800. Analysts say the spike is the result of increased Chinese activity, as Chinese try to move their renminbi off-shore.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:19:36am
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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:19:59am

wonkette.com

“Dear FBI Are You F*cking Kidding Me?”

On Monday, the FBI records vault released heavily redacted files about the “William J. Clinton Foundation,” specifically about the former president and future First Clenis’s pardon of financier Marc Rich, at the end of his second term in office. It’s an old case in which investigators found no wrongdoing, and the newly released files themselves are … ??? … which makes them approximately as vague as the love note James Comey sent to members of Congress about how he has a secret stash of Hillary Clinton ‘n’ Huma Abedin emails in his office that he is (allegedly) whackin’ it to right now.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:26:25am

The FBI Vault account has been silent for a year …

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:28:20am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Be nice if some of our journalists read up about our history more.

Unfortunately their job is now to uphold and spread mythology.

History is dull and does not prove anything. Mythology makes everyone feel good so they go out and buy stuff.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:28:33am

And this is the one that got Wonkette fired up. It is on the investigation of Bill Clinton into a pardon he gave on his last day in office.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:31:07am
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Joe Bacon  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:33:58am

re: #155 whitebeach

Shoulda started with and stayed with the Laphroiag. Scotch is for heroes, wine is for winos.

Thank you, and I think I say this for almost everybody here.

I don’t want to engage in crude generalizations, but WTF is with Texas? I have a brother and four cousins scattered around that state, and only my brother hates Trump and supports Clinton. The cousins started out as three intelligent young men and one very intelligent young woman but morphed over the years into crazed Baptists terminally addicted to the worst foolishness that the hard right wing has to offer. No offense intended, but if it were up to me I’d give the place back to Mexico in a New York instant.

I’m reminded of what Grandma Bacon said repeatedly, “Until 1980, folks said that the USA was tilted and all the loose nuts and bolts rolled into California. Then Ronald Reagan was elected and he shifted the tilt to Texas…”

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:35:24am

re: #103 Targetpractice

A businessman being an amoral asshole who believes the suffering of the majority is justifiable if the minority are making a fortune? Why I never heard of such a thing!

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Once again I ask; why do those who hate Marx the most work so hard to prove he was right?

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:39:52am

Cocktober continues into Blovember:

rawstory.com

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Joe Bacon  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:41:42am

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

I’m so fucking past Megan McCain’s look-at-me-I’m-smart-because-I-think-both-sides-are-bad spoiled brat bullshit.

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She can’t tell the difference between Hitler and Mary Poppins…

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darthstar  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:45:32am

From last night…because they don’t come down until the Xmas lights go up.

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darthstar  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:46:40am

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

I’m so fucking past Megan McCain’s look-at-me-I’m-smart-because-I-think-both-sides-are-bad spoiled brat bullshit.

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She’s just angling for a gig at CNN after the bottom falls out at Fox.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:50:38am

Two more cops ambushed and killed. This time near Des Moines, IA. Two separate incidences, and they are loooking for a suspect. Scott Michael Greene, 46, of Urbandale, Iowa.

cnn.com

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Joe Bacon  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:50:50am

re: #249 darthstar

She’s just angling for a gig at CNN after the bottom falls out at Fox.

If that fails, there’s always a seat at BSRNC’s Morning Joke with her name on it!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:53:12am
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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Nov 2, 2016 • 5:59:41am

Stung by a Tarantula Hawk, yeah, not for the squeamish.

STUNG by a TARANTULA HAWK!

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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:00:16am

re: #250 GlutenFreeJesus

Two more cops ambushed and killed. This time near Des Moines, IA. Two separate incidences, and they are loooking for a suspect. Scott Michael Greene, 46, of Urbandale, Iowa.

cnn.com

A suspect in the murder of two metro police officers early Wednesday morning has been identified. The shootings are being called “ambush-style” attacks and police say there is a “clear and present danger to police officers right now.”

Police are seeking 46-year-old Scott Michael Greene of Urbandale. He is a white male, 5’11”, 180 pounds, with brown hair, and green eyes. Police believe he is driving a blue 2011 Ford F-150 with Iowa license plate 780 YFR. The truck has a silver colored topper with a ladder rack.

Greene is considered armed and dangerous. If you see him do not approach, instead call 911.

whotv.com

Definitely a BLM activist.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:01:01am

Mitt Romney dressed on Hallowe’en as himself:

talkingpointsmemo.com

Mr. Romney was wearing a mass-produced Mitt Romney mask.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:02:37am

re: #254 Timothy Watson

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whotv.com

Definitely a BLM activist.

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Or an ISIS operative.

Dim Jim will claim he’s something worse: a Democrat!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:05:24am

idiot

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:05:42am

A bit more about the suspect from heavy.com

A man named Scott Greene, who matches the description of the suspect, recorded himself being kicked out of a football game in Urbandale, Iowa, on October 14, 2016. He titled the video, which you can watch below, “Police Abuse, Civil Rights Violation at Urbandale High School.”

“This is an assault on a person exercising his constitution rights on free speech!,” he wrote in the description.

In the comments section of the video, Greene wrote, “I was offended by the blacks sitting through our anthem. Thousands more whites fought and died for their freedom. However this is not about the Armed forces, they are cop haters.”

AND NONE OF THEM ARE COP KILLERS, UNLIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:05:45am
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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:08:18am

re: #258 Jayleia

A bit more about the suspect from heavy.com

AND NONE OF THEM ARE COP KILLERS, UNLIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE!

Asshole with a Confederate flag living in a state that had more men serve in the Union army, per capita, than any other state.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:08:59am

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Or an ISIS operative.

well, he does have a beard…
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:10:18am

There is no way around this: To spout false equivalencies between the two or to support the petulant, symbolic candidacies of third-party ideologues because your sense of purity has been offended is to make her defeat more likely.

The best analogy I’ve heard for this election is that a terrible storm is bearing down upon us. You can either join in raising the alarms and aiding in getting the people to safety, or you can stand by and criticize the fine points of evacuation plans, cast doubt on the strength of the storm and disparage the reputations of the emergency managers.

One other thing I know: Not only will history be unkind to Donald Trump, win or lose, it will also be unkind to those who enabled him.

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darthstar  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:10:22am

re: #251 Joe Bacon

If that fails, there’s always a seat at BSRNC’s Morning Joke with her name on it!

I just want to see the fight when Mika catches her banging Joe.

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jeffreyw  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:11:05am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:11:16am

Perhaps this is why Donald Trump is so upset he never won an Emmy:

variety.com

Variety has endorsed Hillary Clinton for President.

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darthstar  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:13:32am

re: #255 Anymouse

Mitt Romney dressed on Hallowe’en as himself:

talkingpointsmemo.com

Mr. Romney was wearing a mass-produced Mitt Romney mask.

There’s a psych major’s thesis in there.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:15:17am

re: #265 Anymouse

Perhaps this is why Donald Trump is so upset he never won an Emmy:

variety.com

Variety has endorsed Hillary Clinton for President.

And we’re going to hear Fox News start the “liberal Hollywood” bullshit again.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:16:29am

re: #264 jeffreyw

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I don’t think that’s Good Eats… /

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:17:45am

re: #268 lawhawk

I don’t think that’s Good Eats… /

Maybe it’s an ortolan?

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:22:59am

re: #267 Joe Bacon

And we’re going to hear Fox News start the “liberal Hollywood” bullshit again.

This is the first time Variety has endorsed anyone in its over one hundred year existence. They consider it that important.

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John Carter  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:25:14am

re: #129 teleskiguy

HAH! Whatever. The Donald™ is going to stiff her because that’s how he rolls, he stiffs contractors that don’t do a good job for him.

she is not being paid by trump. She is being paid by some hedge fund manager. To lazy to google his name.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:36:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:37:25am
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Franklin  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:38:00am

Chills….

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:41:42am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve been wondering how many of these “narrowing” polls are of people who haven’t voted yet, after early voters (systematically more Democratic) are filtered out….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:42:04am

re: #254 Timothy Watson

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:42:11am

re: #272 Anymouse

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Can’t possibly happen—they spent 175 million on super-secret microtargeting.

(See BWS #259.)

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darthstar  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:42:20am

Scott Walker tries again.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:44:14am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s also wearing some kind of digital camouflage, looks like an ACU shirt jacket.

(edited)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:45:15am

re: #278 darthstar

Scott Walker:
If you liked past 8 years, you might be a liberal elite living off of the federal government in & around Washington

If you liked the past eight years, you might be someone who found a job, got out of debt and got health insurance since 2008.

You might be a woman who had access to gynecological services from PP or you might be a gay who was able to get married.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:45:39am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:46:29am

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

I am completely apathetic towards who wins next week. They are 2 megalomaniac, compulsive liars, well beneath what we should expect as Prez.
— Meghan McCain

This is the kind of clear-headed, principled analysis we need more of on TV and in print.
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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:47:23am

re: #282 Sir John Barron

This is the kind of clear-headed, principled analysis we need more of on TV and in print.
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Do you want to subscribe to her newsletter?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:48:21am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Haven’t heard of TargetSmart before. But William and Mary sounds reputable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:48:54am

re: #282 Sir John Barron

I am completely apathetic towards who wins next week. They are 2 megalomaniac, compulsive liars, well beneath what we should expect as Prez.
— Meghan McCain

Translated: “I hate that Donald Trump prick for what he said about my dad, but I cannot bring myself to support Hillary, either.”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:49:07am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a good ad from Trumphttps://t.co
— Chris Cillizza

Is Chris Cillizza actually Mark Halperin? Has anyone seen them in the same place at the same time?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:49:44am

re: #284 Sir John Barron

Haven’t heard of TargetSmart before. But William and Mary sounds reputable.

This is the poll that Lawrence O’Donnell talked about on his show last night.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:50:39am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

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YouTube acct owned by Iowa suspect has a video of man who appears to be him holding a Confederate Flag at football game in Oct of this year

Next time I hear from that Nigerian prince friend of mine, Imma ask him what they think of people waving Biafran flags around….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:51:45am

GREENVILLE, MS (Mississippi News Now) -

Tuesday night sometime after 11 p.m. authorities responded to a call about a church burning.

Local Black church Hopewell M.B. Church was not only burned but also vandalized with the words “Vote Trump” spray painted on the side of the building.

Mayor Errick D. Simmons, Greenville Fire Chief, Washington County Sheriff and other local state and federal law enforcement agencies are holding a press conference Wednesday at 10:30 a.m.

The press conference will be held at the Greenville Fire Department Headquarters.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:52:24am

Turned off the Twitterphone last night, needed to unplug.

Amazing how much better I felt.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:53:34am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

Turned off the Twitterphone last night, needed to unplug.

Amazing how much better I felt.

Of course, “unplug” probably isn’t the most accurate term anymore. “Disconnect” maybe. Anyway, the rest of my night went well.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:54:21am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder if the sheriff will say something to the effect that this is obviously not a terror attack, since it was aimed at blacks, or will he be smarter than the last guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:56:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:57:59am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The U.S. Senate and two of its key Republican leaders, relying on an array of constitutional claims, has told a federal judge that the courts must stay out of the political feud over the current vacancy on the Supreme Court. In a brief filed Monday in a federal District Court in Washington, D.C., the legislative body said the Senate has no duty to take any action on President Obama’s nomination of Circuit Judge Merrick B. Garland be approved as a Justice.

“All methods of withholding the consent necessary to confirm a nominee are legislative acts, whether characterized as ‘a refusal to act’ or whether performed by ‘the Senate’ (as opposed to its individual members),” the brief contended. And, as legislative action, the decision to simply sit on a nomination is insulated from challenge under the Constitution’s Speech or Debate Clause, the filing argued.

The two “leaders” are McConnell and Grassley.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 6:58:07am

re: #292 Belafon

I wonder if the sheriff will say something to the effect that this is obviously not a terror attack, since it was aimed at blacks, or will he be smarter than the last guy.

It’s the Confederacy, Jack. Only the slogan changes, the ashes remain the same.

time.com

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:00:46am

FBI is at it again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:02:20am

re: #296 Ziggy_TARDIS

You like crosstabs, see my #273 for last night’s Florida poll.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:02:55am

My Facebook wingnuts are chirping about another Wikileaks dump tomorrow. Anyone else hear this?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:03:15am

re: #296 Ziggy_TARDIS

FBI is at it again.

This is why the Hatch Act was passed. It seems the FBI feels the law is merely a recommendation.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:04:19am

re: #298 makeitstop

My Facebook wingnuts are chirping about another Wikileaks dump tomorrow. Anyone else hear this?

Assange promised a dump each week before the election, so one should be forthcoming. I bet it has nothing in it about Trump shenanigans.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:04:20am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:08:28am

If H-Rod is one tenth the vindictive, evil bitch her detractors insist, there is going to be a lot of ugly, scorched-earth housecleaning come January. Hitlery’s Kill Squad will surely be coming for Assange and the FBI both. //

In seriousness, she won’t lack any ass to kick. Comey might as well put out feelers for a Fox News job right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:09:33am
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Le Lapin Tueur  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:09:38am

re: #207 Pawn of the Oppressor

Got 53 seconds into it before my brain started short-circuiting and I turned it off.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:09:41am

re: #301 Ziggy_TARDIS

KKK, neo-Nazis and militias plan to monitor urban polling places and suppress the black vote politico.com | AP Photo pic.twitter.com
— POLITICO

I suspect there’s more ‘bark’ than ‘bite’ in these stories. These goons are petrified of urban areas.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:10:39am
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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:10:42am

re: #305 Sir John Barron

I suspect there’s more ‘bark’ than ‘bite’ in these stories. These goons are petrified of urban areas.

Yeah, I think if they tried that, it would be a short day for them.

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:10:54am

re: #305 Sir John Barron

I suspect there’s more ‘bark’ than ‘bite’ in these stories. These goons are petrified of urban areas.

Shorter, and just as true.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:11:03am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

MN Gov. Dayton says robocallers intentionally tied up state healthcare exchange phone lines on 1st day of enrollment startribune.com
— Reid Wilson

Wingnuts and Kochs really hate healthcare for people.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:11:52am

re: #305 Sir John Barron

I suspect there’s more ‘bark’ than ‘bite’ in these stories. These goons are petrified of urban areas.

They think they only need to broadcast their intent to have an effect. We’ll see if the children of the Selma marchers aren’t as brave as their parents.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:12:54am

re: #307 Timothy Watson

Yeah, I think if they tried that, it would be a short day for them.

The would be poll-watchers also have to vote for themselves someplace. They also have to get out of bed and put on their pants, which might be challenging enough.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:13:48am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart

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“libs worst nightmare” news sources are: Breitbart, Infowars, & WorldNetDaily

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:14:03am

re: #310 Decatur Deb

They think they only need to broadcast their intent to have an effect. We’ll see if the children of the Selma marchers are as brave as their parents.

Right. I doubt most, if any, have intent to go poll-watching in an urban area.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:14:56am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

“libs worst nightmare” news sources are: Breitbart, Infowars, & WorldNetDaily

Needs more SMOTI.

/

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:15:52am

re: #314 Sir John Barron

Needs more SMOTI.

/

The Wire or whatever Baby Whiplash’s joke of a publication since he left Breitbart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:16:31am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

“libs worst nightmare” news sources are: Breitbart, Infowars, & WorldNetDaily

he’s also proud to still be a member of the “CruzCrew”…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:20:33am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s also proud to still be a member of the “CruzCrew”…

I thought Cruz and his RINO followers were destined to be purged?

/

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:22:37am

re: #317 Sir John Barron

He phone banked for their God-Emperor, so yes, he will be purged…but purged later.

No / because you know its true.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:22:59am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

This sucks, but doesn’t surprise me. I graduated high school in Greenville. Too many people like that there. Old south

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:23:42am

re: #314 Sir John Barron

Needs more SMOTI.

/

DailyCaller
Hotair

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:25:29am

re: #309 Sir John Barron

Wingnuts and Kochs really hate healthcare for people.

Koch’s and friends pine for a more “libertarian business environment” within all states. Company towns, serviced by Rick Scott style cash-only medical clinics.

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:29:51am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:32:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:34:10am

so, a certain someone is planning a twitter harassment campaign.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:36:38am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, a certain someone is planning a twitter harassment campaign.

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No one expects the Twitter Inquisition.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:37:48am

re: #61 No Depression

By moving to zero fossil fuels, we save so much money that it’s actually enough to pay the costs of the green energy transformation”
~Quack Jill Stein

I was going to type up a pithy reply, but this sums it up for me/us

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sagehen  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:37:51am

re: #284 Sir John Barron

Haven’t heard of TargetSmart before. But William and Mary sounds reputable.

They’re a University that’s older than the country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:39:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:39:57am
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Le Lapin Tueur  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:41:07am

re: #278 darthstar

Scott Walker:

If you liked past 8 years, you might be a liberal elite living off of the federal government in & around Washington.

Hmm. Liberal. Live inside the magical beltway that everyone seems to think has some meaning as a border. Work for the Feds. Part of that educated class the sets tRump into paroxysms of hate.

Yup. Liberal Elite, then, and proud of it. No apologies. And, I am ready for eight more years of the hell we’ve been living under.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:42:19am

re: #330 Le Lapin Tueur

If you liked past 8 years, you might be a liberal elite living off of the federal government in & around Washington.

Lame wingnut governor is lame.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:42:42am

re: #330 Le Lapin Tueur

Scott Walker:

Hmm. Liberal. Live inside the magical beltway that everyone seems to think has some meaning as a border. Work for the Feds. Part of that educated class the sets tRump into paroxysms of hate.

Yup. Liberal Elite, then, and proud of it. No apologies.

That class of “Liberal Elite” who have watched 8 years of GOP obstruction up close and personal.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:43:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:44:01am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:44:14am

Baby Whiplash is letting his angry white privilege economically anxious flag fly today==>

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:44:29am

Funny how that happened. Heavily armed white guy taken into custody…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:45:56am

O_o

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:50:17am

re: #336 lawhawk

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Funny how that happened. Heavily armed white guy taken into custody…

If there’s one thing Confederates know how to do, it’s surrender.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:50:40am

re: #299 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This is why the Hatch Act was passed. It seems the FBI feels the law is merely a recommendation.

Every year that there is an election of any kind (in my area), I get emails discussing the Hatch Act and how is will negatively impact my career should I decide to violated it. The Hatch Act shows up in our mandatory ethics training. It is a ubiquitous presence. This FBI shit is really annoying and violative. The FBI IG and Ombudsman need to get their shit together and get the twit account holder (which I am guessing is under the Office of Public Affairs in the FBI) under control.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:51:01am

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash is letting his angry white privilege economically anxious flag fly today==>

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for proper response, see #326…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:51:29am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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They just can’t help themselves.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:52:39am

SuveryMonkey dropped again, dropping Clinton 2 points in 538.

However, looking at the result, it shows South Carolina within 1, while showing Michigan tied.

I am baffled by why Nate Silver includes it in his polling data. It is rated C-, and the Cutoff is D.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:52:45am

re: #278 darthstar

Scott Walker tries again.

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You might even be a liberal elite living in the reddest house district in the nation. One who thanks the Democrats for standing up for veterans.

Who’d Walker stand up for? Oh, right the Koch Brothers and their empire of ash which is the Kansas economy. (Well, at least Kansas is creating jobs in Nebraska.)

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:54:07am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Man…that dude.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:54:39am

re: #342 Ziggy_TARDIS

SuveryMonkey dropped again, dropping Clinton 2 points in 538.

However, looking at the result, it shows South Carolina within 1, while showing Michigan tied.

I am baffled by why Nate Silver includes it in his polling data. It is rated C-, and the Cutoff is D.

STOP LOOKING AT THE FUCKING POLLS

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:54:55am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cillizza and some other politics reporter/talking heads like Chris Matthews are so into the political game moves they forget to look at what is won or lost when the game is over. They do not even discuss the results of the winners and losers it is too important to watch the game being played.

But you can be damn sure when the game is over they will then switch to bitching about those results. Should Trump win I can see them doing special like “How did America get fooled into voting for Trump.” SHould Clinton win they will do shows like “Should America Deserve More than Hillary Clinton and Why are Politics Not Giving Us Our Freshest Best?”

What a job. You get to be above it all, take no criticism, and act like you know all.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:54:58am

re: #344 Jayleia

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Man…that dude.

Is he, was he, a fellow Lizard?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:55:34am

re: #336 lawhawk

Funny how that happened. Heavily armed cop killing white guy taken into custody…

FTFY

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:55:58am

re: #333 lawhawk

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It was really warm here on Saturday. Are shorts not available in Woodsy Fat Loudmouth camo?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:56:37am

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

STOP LOOKING AT THE FUCKING POLLS

Polls are good at showing who has momentum. DT has momentum. That is all.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:56:37am

re: #346 ObserverArt

Problem.

To be those 2, and others like them, you have to practically give up your soul.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:57:26am

re: #278 darthstar

Scott Walker tries again.

If you liked past 8 years, you might be a liberal elite living off of the federal government in & around Washington

I have loved the last 8 years. Yes, I’m a liberal. But, I don’t live off the government and I don’t live in and around Washington. I go to work every day, I bust my ass every day improving the lives of patients with terrible diseases, I volunteer on weekends, I enjoy low gas prices, and I enjoy the generous personal prosperity over the last 8 years. My banker and bank account are equally pleased. Don’t blame the POTUS if you’re a fucking failure.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:58:34am

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

STOP LOOKING AT THE FUCKING POLLS

I like looking at some of the recent Nebraska polling. Trump started at +27, now down to +10 with NE-2 in play again.

Make the GOP spend time in the last few days trying to hold on to a state with five electoral votes that should be part of their firewall.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:58:47am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Polls are good at showing who has momentum. DT has momentum. That is all.

He might have Mittmentum.

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sagehen  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:59:17am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Polls are good at showing who has momentum. DT has momentum. That is all.

I like the theory posted above; that as people who’ve already voted (heavily Clinton) are dropped from the “likely voters” screen, the haven’t-voted-yet pool become increasingly Trumpish.

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:59:36am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

Yep, went off the rails hard and joined the GamerGaters…

EDIT Oh, yeah, he’s for Bernie’s economic policies, but it’ll piss off the “SJWs” so #MAGA…or something

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2016 • 7:59:51am

re: #342 Ziggy_TARDIS

SuveryMonkey dropped again, dropping Clinton 2 points in 538.

However, looking at the result, it shows South Carolina within 1, while showing Michigan tied.

I am baffled by why Nate Silver includes it in his polling data. It is rated C-, and the Cutoff is D.

Do I hafta write my daily :

tru.mp has never led electorally . Not for one day.

T hi s would be the biggest comeback / upsett ever. Yes literally ever in presidential politics.

Or,again literally, every ( legitimate) electoral poll up to now ha been wrong.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:00:45am

re: #342 Ziggy_TARDIS

SuveryMonkey dropped again, dropping Clinton 2 points in 538.

However, looking at the result, it shows South Carolina within 1, while showing Michigan tied.

I am baffled by why Nate Silver includes it in his polling data. It is rated C-, and the Cutoff is D.

That’s why he’s including it. It is just above his threshold, though it might not make the cut next year once he reviews this year’s data.

If you’re concerned about how 538 handles polls and its volatility, consider using PEC as your go to. Far less volatile on a day to day basis. Considering that the dynamics of the election have been fairly stable despite the polling noise, this makes sense.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:00:53am

re: #346 ObserverArt

Should Trump win I can see them doing special like “How did America get fooled into voting for Trump.”

More like, Trump wins, stock market goes in the tank, Drumpf makes insane cabinet choices, tries to have Hillary and the Bushes arrested, tries to have the Washington Post, MSNBC, Bloomberg, the NYT, etc, shutdown, leaving Chris Matthews, Chris Cazzila and Mark Halperin gasping about “Nobody Expected This!”

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Stanley Sea  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:01:21am

So cop killer had a falling out with cops at a high school game, harassing black people with a confederate flag?

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:01:26am
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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:03:18am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

“libs worst nightmare” news sources are: Breitbart, Infowars, & WorldNetDaily

I think that boob takes his news sources intravenously. He wants to make sure he doesn’t miss a single drop of the derp.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:03:37am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Polls are good at showing who has momentum. DT has momentum. That is all.

Looking at the polls is a health hazard for Ziggy, it’s like a diabetic eating too much sugar.

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Boom Furler  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:04:12am

“If you vote for Hillary you’re an adult, if you vote for Trump you’re a sucker, if you don’t vote you’re an ass”
Gotta love Louis CK

Louis C.K. Is All In For Hillary - CONAN on TBS

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:05:22am
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A wild (((wolfy))) has appeared  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:06:17am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

They need to work on the GOTV strategy…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:09:18am
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Bubblehead II  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:09:58am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

Is he, was he, a fellow Lizard?

Yep he was. Stinky hit him with the ban hammer because of tweets like that. I regret recommending LGF to him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:10:21am

re: #359 Sir John Barron

“Citizens upset at ruthless dictator for doing exactly what he said he would do.”

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:12:38am

re: #368 Bubblehead II

Oh, we have YOU to blame for him?

For that…you must eat pizza.

WITH PINEAPPLE.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:14:57am

re: #344 Jayleia

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Man…that dude…is a complete ass, and an embarrassment to all men.

I added a bit to your comment.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:16:55am

re: #351 Ziggy_TARDIS

Problem.

To be those 2, and others like them, you have to practically give up your soul.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:20:41am
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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:21:10am

re: #368 Bubblehead II

Yep he was. Stinky hit him with the ban hammer because of tweets like that. I regret recommending LGF to him.

If I remember correctly didn’t you work with him or something…then he got fired and cried about that, but it may have been his attitude that lost him the job?

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Bubblehead II  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:21:21am

re: #370 Jayleia

Oh, we have YOU to blame for him?

For that…you must eat pizza.

WITH PINEAPPLE.

Yep. I used to work with him. and he kept that shit well hidden. As for pineapple on a pizza, I can live with it,

Ducks

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Bubblehead II  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:24:05am

re: #374 ObserverArt

If I remember correctly didn’t you work with him or something…then he got fired and cried about that, but it may have been his attitude that lost him the job?

Good memory. As for the reason he got canned, can’t talk about it.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:26:31am
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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:29:31am

re: #376 Bubblehead II

Good memory. As for the reason he got canned, can’t talk about it.

I wouldn’t expect it! It is none of my business.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:43:06am

re: #360 Stanley Sea

So cop killer had a falling out with cops at a high school game, harassing black people with a confederate flag?

Ends up killing 2 cops, and is taken alive to boot…

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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:44:39am

re: #379 GlutenFreeJesus

Ends up killing 2 cops, and is taken alive to boot…

Ditto for the nutjob in Pennsylvania, who liked to dress up in Serbian Army military uniforms, that shot and killed two Pennsylvania State Troopers a couple years back.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:49:35am
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sagehen  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:54:04am

re: #370 Jayleia

Oh, we have YOU to blame for him?

For that…you must eat pizza.

WITH PINEAPPLE.

You’re going to reward him with pineapple pizza!?! No no no. For punishment, chocolate-covered brussel sprouts.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:55:31am

Police are looking for a cop killer who was previously removed him from a football stadium after he flew the confederate rag during the national anthem because “I was offended by the blacks sitting through our anthem. Thousands more whites fought and died for their freedom”.

This….of course…..only could make sense to a Trump deplorable.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:56:28am

re: #383 Dr. Matt

The guy doesn’t even realize that many blacks also died fighting for their own freedom.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:59:23am

re: #383 Dr. Matt

Police are looking for a cop killer who was previously removed him from a football stadium after he flew the confederate rag during the national anthem because “I was offended by the blacks sitting through our anthem. Thousands more whites fought and died for their freedom”.

This….of course…..only could make sense to a Trump deplorable.

So this dude flew the Confederate flag because of blacks sitting during the U.S. National Anthem.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:59:43am

re: #383 Dr. Matt

Throwing the flag of insurrection and the states that fought to preserve the institution of slavery at the faces of blacks, whose ancestors were among those who were enslaved? Yeah, that’s tremendous logic these deplorable asshates have.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 2, 2016 • 8:59:59am

Yuuge crowd!!

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:01:09am

re: #387 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yuuge crowd!!

Maybe they’ve figured out that you can wait an hour before Trump actually speaks.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:01:12am

11-Year-Old Brain Tumor Survivor Dies By Suicide After Relentless Bullying Over Her ‘Crooked’ Smile

And just last week Dead Intern Morning Jo[k]e was whining that too many kids are just being oversensitive to bullying and that they should toughen up like he was as a wee junior douche.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:01:42am

sigh

Man shouts at press for selling out “for a few shekels” at Trump rally in Miami

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:02:54am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:03:04am

Lunch time!

Instagram

Hump day vibes 👏🏼 photo credit: @fran_sudakin

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:05:41am

A Tale of Two Realities, in pictures:

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Bubblehead II  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:06:31am

LIVE at 11 a.m. - U.S. Capitol Tree to be cut down near McCall

Payette National Forest workers will fell the tree using a traditional crosscut saw, as a way of honoring the traditional logging skills and tools used in this region.

It is also a process that officials say has never been used before to cut down previous national trees.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:07:01am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

Look how secure and happy they are to be part of a crowd. Watch them wiggle with delight as they get to yell at people! When do we get the armbands? Is it stompin’ time yet?

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:07:46am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

A Tale of Two Realities, in pictures:

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Don’t these people have jobs?!?

//// but not really

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:09:46am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still a fair number of vacant seats at Trump rally in Miami’s Bayfront Park. @WLRN pic.twitter.com
— Kate Stein

Fire marshalls are commies keeping patriots away from Trump rally.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:10:47am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

ID Rep. Raul Labrador speaking for Trump in Miami, where 3 local GOP House members & Sen Rubio won’t stump w/candidate
— Marc Caputo

I bet the 3 local GOP House members, along with Marco Polo Rubio, “voted for their party’s nominee”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:10:49am

re: #385 Sir John Barron

So this dude flew the Confederate flag because of blacks sitting during the U.S. National Anthem.

It makes perfect sense in the WOD (World of Deplorables)

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:11:17am

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I think I’ve found Peak BernieorBust

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:11:46am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

ID Rep. Raul Labrador speaking for Trump in Miami, where 3 local GOP House members & Sen Rubio won’t stump w/candidate
— Marc Caputo

Long way for Rep. Labrador to go.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:12:31am

re: #387 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

A small crowd has gathered for Donald Trump’s rally in Miami, which is scheduled to start in about 30 min: pic.twitter.com
— Jenna Johnson

Is this the crowd with “thousands”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:13:41am

re: #402 Sir John Barron

Is this the crowd with “thousands”?

apparently

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:14:52am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

Labrador… they make good lapdogs.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:14:58am

re: #401 Sir John Barron

Long way for Rep. Labrador to go.

If we (Idaho) gets lucky, he’ll stay there.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:15:23am

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

So the story is that they wrote about some raw data that somehow never actually made it into the official raw data report. Mmm hmm.

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nines09  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:16:42am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

Updated photo from Trump camp.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:18:25am

re: #407 nines09

Updated photo from Trump camp.

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Donald should use more SPF50.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:20:34am

What we know about Iowa police shooting suspect Scott Michael Greene

Apparently he’s a kind of alt-right activist, since he offered the video to a local TV station and has engaged in this kind of instigation before:

The user posted another video, called “Civil Rights Violation at Urbandale High School 10/14/16,” which shows a man resembling Greene apparently holding a Confederate Flag at a sports game.

There was also this:

The YouTube account also features a video posted just two days ago, showing high school cheerleaders dancing at a gymnasium event.

Hypothesis: He’s a perv and the alt-right/confederate rag stuff was a cover for him to be lurking around high school events with his perv-cam.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:20:49am

re: #385 Sir John Barron

So this dude flew the Confederate flag because of blacks sitting during the U.S. National Anthem.

Commonsense is not a strong trait for the deplorables.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:22:45am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel

Clearly a card-carrying liberal.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:24:07am

re: #411 Dr. Matt

Clearly a card-carrying liberal.

//

A case can be made that liberal politics forced him into that course of action…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:25:50am

At Hillary Campaign again today.

Hope Monmouth and Marquette have some good polling news.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:26:43am

re: #407 nines09

Updated photo from Trump camp.

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Obama campaigning for Trump now?

Dammit.

///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:27:57am

donald LOVES the gods2 black guys…

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stpaulbear  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:28:11am

re: #385 Sir John Barron

So this dude flew the Confederate flag because of blacks sitting during the U.S. National Anthem in the bleachers.

Who needs an even remotely nuanced excuse?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:28:12am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel

What we know about Iowa police shooting suspect Scott Michael Greene

Apparently he’s a kind of alt-right activist, since he offered the video to a local TV station and has engaged in this kind of instigation before:

There was also this:

Hypothesis: He’s a perv and the alt-right/confederate rag stuff was a cover for him to be lurking around high school events with his perv-cam.

In the deplorable basket ya go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:31:54am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:33:00am

re: #405 Bubblehead II

If we (Idaho) gets lucky, he’ll stay there.

Maybe they could chip in to send him to The Labrador.

(Yes, that’s right.)

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:33:02am

re: #342 Ziggy_TARDIS

SuveryMonkey dropped again, dropping Clinton 2 points in 538.

However, looking at the result, it shows South Carolina within 1, while showing Michigan tied.

I am baffled by why Nate Silver includes it in his polling data. It is rated C-, and the Cutoff is D.

If it shows south by dog carolina within 1, it is totally craptastic.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:33:17am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump in Miami: “Crooked Hillary Clinton. Boy, is she crooked. Crooked Hillary. Crooked, crooked, crooked.”
— Roger Simon

I have great speeches. Great. Just great. Really great. Great, great, great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:33:20am
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stpaulbear  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:33:57am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel

What we know about Iowa police shooting suspect Scott Michael Greene

Apparently he’s a kind of alt-right activist, since he offered the video to a local TV station and has engaged in this kind of instigation before:

There was also this:

Hypothesis: He’s a perv and the alt-right/confederate rag stuff was a cover for him to be lurking around high school events with his perv-cam.

So did he just shoot the cops to get attention? Is he another asshole who thinks he’s going to finally start the race war?

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:34:07am

re: #417 Sir John Barron

In the deplorable basket ya go.

A deplorable basket case if I’ve ever seen one…..

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:34:22am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

DONALD TRUMP kicks-off rally slamming John Kadzik for “feeding information” to John Podesta about Benghazi investigation.
— Kevin Cirilli

???

No, I don’t really want to know.

Blah, blah, blah, words, blah, BENGHAZI

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:34:38am

re: #423 stpaulbear

From what I gather, he was pissed that the cops kicked him out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:35:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:35:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:36:06am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:36:18am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump just now in Miami: she probably got the debate questions against me too, but we won so it doesn’t matter.
— Brad Mielke

Still super sensitive about the debate, this non-tax-paying wealthy dude with tiny hands.

Hillary should talk about Trump and his crying about the debates.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:36:37am

re: #423 stpaulbear

So did he just shoot the cops to get attention? Is he another asshole who thinks he’s going to finally start the race war?

I think he just lost it when the cops threw him out.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:37:07am

re: #426 GlutenFreeJesus

From what I gather, he was pissed that the cops kicked him out.

Well they shouldn’t have kicked him out. Didn’t they notice his skin color?

////

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:37:53am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump tells crowd in Miami he’s winning: We are up in Ohio. We are up in North Carolina. I think we are doing great in Pennsylvania.
— Yamiche Alcindor

“doing great” in a state does not = winning said state.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:38:59am

This is a baffling poll result.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:39:18am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump just now in Miami: she probably got the debate questions against me too, but we won so it doesn’t matter.
— Brad Mielke

The Fix thinks this is a good speech, a great speech, really among Trump’s best.

half /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:39:48am

re: #425 Sir John Barron

???

No, I don’t really want to know.

Blah, blah, blah, words, blah, BENGHAZI

Should be Peter Kadzik, but Trump isn’t all that good with names and neither is Cirilli.
Anyway, it’s all something something something from the Wikileaks Podesta emails.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:41:35am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

Should be Peter Kadzik, but Trump isn’t all that good with names and neither is Cirilli.
Anyway, it’s all something something something from the Wikileaks Podesta emails.

No idea who he is.

But I bet economically anxious working class white voters are pouring over Wikileaks email dumps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:42:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:43:16am

re: #437 Sir John Barron

No idea who he is.

But I bet economically anxious working class white voters are pouring over Wikileaks email dumps.

Kadzik is an Assistant Attorney General in the DoJ

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:43:30am

I’m betting a lot of them do.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:43:42am

Trump will never ever get to fly on it as President?

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mmmirele  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:44:04am

re: #184 Nyet

Thank you. I went on a rant about this case because it is so legally iffy at this point. The Cohen v. Trump case, scheduled to go to trial on Nov. 28 is much more of a sure thing. (This is the Trump U class action case.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:44:07am

LOLOLOLOL

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:45:26am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL

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Fox News for instance.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:46:26am

My boss’s 4 year old granddaughter got to shake Obama’s hand yesterday. Smile. (Hoping for pics.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:46:46am

he just mentioned thoughts and prayers for the officers in Iowa, but nothing about the shooter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:47:00am

!!!!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:48:53am

re: #434 Ziggy_TARDIS

Stop. Obsessing. About. Polls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:49:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:50:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:50:34am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:51:29am

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Something’s happening. Report it. Something’s happening. What’s happening? I don’t know, something’s happening. Something. See, bias!”

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:51:58am
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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:52:26am
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Belafon  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:52:46am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL

He can make those statements because he knows his followers can’t think any further back than when they walked up to the rally, and his evidence is that they’ll shout at the reporters.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:53:14am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have a bit of a crush on Katy.

Plus, she puts up with an awful lot of crap from Donald and his Deplorables.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:54:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:54:55am

good grief

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:56:32am

O’Keefe has another breaking broken scoop:

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:57:20am

re: #441 lawhawk

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Trump will never ever get to fly on it as President?

The guy in the doorway is scaled down quite a bit. It isn’t that big. The hump forward of the cockpit is widely assumed to be a satnav antenna or a voodoo ecm device or something similar, but is actually an air-to-air refueling receptacle.


The aircraft can stay airborne at least 72 hours if the tankers keep coming.
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:57:35am

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief

“As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton had the King of England killed.”

/

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Mattand  Nov 2, 2016 • 9:59:41am

re: #434 Ziggy_TARDIS

This is a baffling poll result.

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I’m guessing you’re ignoring everyone’s advice from yesterday to take a break.

You need to step away from this for a couple of days.

I get that you’re upset, and you have every right to be. However, you are literally hurting yourself at this point.

I’m not saying this to be mean or dismissive, but you sound like you are well on your way to a nervous breakdown.

You need to stop. Read a book; pray; take a walk. Do anything besides obsess over the election for a day or two.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:00:04am

Trump supporters arguing - with each other. Miami, Florida.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:00:06am

re: #459 Backwoods_Sleuth

WOW! BREAKING! WOW!

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Mattand  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:00:53am

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief

Just for my own clarification, in case I missed something: this is an utter fundamental misreading of the job of Secretary of State, right?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:01:07am

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief

Like who?

DANGEROUS ALIENS!!

Names?

DANGEROUS!!!!!

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jeffreyw  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:01:49am

Imgur


I miss my big assed home grown tomatoes.

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John Carter  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:02:36am

re: #462 Mattand

I’m guessing you’re ignoring everyone’s advice from yesterday to take a break.

You need to step away from this for a couple of days.

I get that you’re upset, and you have every right to be. However, you are literally hurting yourself at this point.

I’m not saying this to be mean or dismissive, but you sound like you are well on your way to a nervous breakdown.

You need to stop. Read a book; pray; take a walk. Do anything besides obsess over the election for a day or two.

He needs to go away for at least 24 hours.

Take a break and go away knowing that she is winning this, it is just a question about by how much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:02:39am

Katie Hopkins again shows that she is a horrible person.

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Weaselone  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:03:06am

The one thing I don’t get about this is that all of the Networks and major media players have reporters following the campaign and attending Trump’s rallies. All of these reporters get verbally abused and threatened by Trump’s crowds at rallies. Members of the press get harassed by his army of deplorables on Twitter and yet the actual coverage of the campaigns continues as it it were a normal campaign. The press continues to cover Hillary’s emails as if they were somehow important. I just don’t get the disconnect between the media coverage of the two campaigns and the reporters experiences covering them and the newspaper endorsements of Hillary.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:03:46am

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:03:52am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

Katie Hopkins again shows that she is a horrible person.
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Who is this troubled heart?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:04:30am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

Im surprised Doctor Who hasn’t done an episode with a thinny-disguised parody of her.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:04:50am

re: #465 Mattand

Just for my own clarification, in case I missed something: this is an utter fundamental misreading of the job of Secretary of State, right?

True. Since Area 51 and our less well known facility under the Denver airport are Department of Defense installations, it is the Secretary of Defense, through the classified Office of ET relations, who is in charge of all relations with our ET guests, including bailing them out when they run afoul of the law.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:04:58am

re: #465 Mattand

Just for my own clarification, in case I missed something: this is an utter fundamental misreading of the job of Secretary of State, right?

As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton controlled the entire U.S. government including Barack Obama.

/

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:05:23am

re: #472 Sir John Barron

An awful, ignorant, and belligerently racist English woman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:05:29am

re: #472 Sir John Barron

Who is this troubled heart?

columnist for the Daily Mail. She thinks most woman are fat and ugly and worthless.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:06:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:06:56am
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wrenchwench  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:07:39am

re: #474 Shiplord Kirel

True. Since Area 51 and our less well known facility under the Denver airport are Department of Defense installations, it is the Secretary of Defense, through the classified Office of ET relations, who is in charge of all relations with our ET guests, including bailing them out when they run afoul of the law.

Not the Dept. of Energy? I want Ernest Moniz to be my boss.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:07:45am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

he just mentioned thoughts and prayers for the officers in Iowa, but nothing about the shooter.

What? Is he not going to do a commercial about this?

Oh wait, this guy is not an illegal alien like all those that will be let in because of Hillary’s open borders policy.

Never mind. Just a regular ol’ America conservo-nutjob killing some cops. No political gain in that.

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Jayleia  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:08:59am
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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:09:49am

re: #474 Shiplord Kirel

True. Since Area 51 and our less well known facility under the Denver airport are Department of Defense installations, it is the Secretary of Defense, through the classified Office of ET relations, who is in charge of all relations with our ET guests, including bailing them out when they run afoul of the law.

While we’re at it, I’m glad we air-locked that fool Jar Jar Binks before he could audition for another movie. He nearly gave away the whole thing.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:10:53am

re: #470 Weaselone

The one thing I don’t get about this is that all of the Networks and major media players have reporters following the campaign and attending Trump’s rallies. All of these reporters get verbally abused and threatened by Trump’s crowds at rallies. Members of the press get harassed by his army of deplorables on Twitter and yet the actual coverage of the campaigns continues as it it were a normal campaign. The press continues to cover Hillary’s emails as if they were somehow important. I just don’t get the disconnect between the media coverage of the two campaigns and the reporters experiences covering them and the newspaper endorsements of Hillary.

The reporters are professionals who will go to get a scoop and their managers don’t care that they’re sending their staff into harms way to cover a dangerous lunatic who is steadily legitimizing violence against them. It’s all about horserace ratings $$$ kerching.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:12:37am

re: #483 Shiplord Kirel

While we’re at it, I’m glad we air-locked that fool Jar Jar Binks before he could audition for another movie. He nearly gave away the whole thing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:14:23am

re: #481 ObserverArt

What? Is he not going to do a commercial about this?

Oh wait, this guy is not an illegal alien like all those that will be let in because of Hillary’s open borders policy.

Never mind. Just a regular ol’ America conservo-nutjob killing some cops. No political gain in that.

They sure dropped the Cascade Mall shooter once he turned out to be a citizen and a Trump supporter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:16:45am
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sagehen  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:17:24am

re: #441 lawhawk

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Trump will never ever get to fly on it as President?

Don’t be silly, everybody knows that.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:18:03am

re: #471 lawhawk

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Is it Trump that doesn’t know or care about the duties of the Secretary of State…or his dimwitted followers that don’t know or care but are eager to blame everything on Clinton because Clinton?

He has done this the entire campaign. He knows one thing for sure…he can blame a Clinton for everything political and his followers eat it up no facts or truth needed.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:18:12am

re: #488 sagehen

Don’t be silly, everybody knows that.

He’ll just have to content himself with his private plane.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:19:51am

Ah the privilege of being white and heavily armed. The ongoing protests and law enforcement crackdown against the protesters against the oil pipeline in ND is a stark contrast to how the Bundy nuts were treated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:21:44am

Officials: Greenville church burning, vandalism being investigated as hate crime

GREENVILLE, MS (Mississippi News Now) -

Authorities are now investigating the burning and vandalism of a historic church in Greenville as a hate crime.

Tuesday night, after 11 p.m., authorities responded to the scene of the 111-year-old Hopewell M.B. Church. The church was not only burned, but also vandalized with the words “Vote Trump” spray painted on the side of the building.

Officials said during a press conference held on Wednesday that the incident is now being investigated as a hate crime and Greenville Police Chief Freddie Cannon called the incident a “a form of voting intimidation”.

We’re told that there is heavy fire, water and smoke damage in the sanctuary of the church. The pastor’s study and the kitchen also were damaged.

Officials say they are speaking with a person of interest but have not identified a suspect.

The FBI released a statement on the burning:

“The FBI Jackson Division is aware of the situation in Greenville, and we are working with our local, state and federal law enforcement partners to determine if any civil rights crimes were committed.”

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Stanley Sea  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:22:04am

re: #467 jeffreyw

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I miss my big assed home grown tomatoes.

OH that tomato.

Looks like what I would eat as a kid when visiting relatives in VA.

Breakfast, lunch & dinner - sliced fresh.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:22:32am

Florida Man

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:23:19am

re: #492 Backwoods_Sleuth

Officials: Greenville church burning, vandalism being investigated as hate crime

Let’s wait for the FBI’s tweet on this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:24:09am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:24:29am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not a cult of personality. Nope.

/

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Mike Lamb  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:24:51am

re: #495 Decatur Deb

Let’s wait for the FBI’s tweet on this.

Too close to the election to investigate or provide any updates.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:24:56am

re: #495 Decatur Deb

Let’s wait for the FBI’s tweet on this.

How much time do you have?

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:25:20am

Wonkette weighs in on the police officer shootings in Iowa, with quotations from the police department initially laying indirect blame on the Black Lives Matter movement. Immediately following that statement (reported there), a number of screen shots from Twitter blaming BLM as well:

wonkette.com

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:25:38am

“…Vance, 38, was wanted in connection with the shootings of two police officers in Wellston, northeast of Oklahoma City, and the deaths of his aunt and uncle, Robert and Kay Wilkson, on Oct. 23. He eluded authorities for a week — live-streaming his getaway on Facebook — before he was shot and killed Sunday night near Leedey, Oklahoma, more than 120 miles west…”

Michael Vance Pursuit

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nines09  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:30:45am

re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth

They seem nice. Imagine that drinking across from you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:30:46am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:31:39am

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But don’t call them Deplorables.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:31:43am

If you’re wondering what line is like to see Obama at UNC today, here’s a look:

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sagehen  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:32:13am

re: #456 Sir John Barron

I have a bit of a crush on Katy.

Plus, she puts up with an awful lot of crap from Donald and his Deplorables.

Katy trivia (not really trivia, it was in an article she wrote) —

In June 2015, she was the lowest-ranked staffer at the London bureau. She did human interest stories, puff pieces, arts reviews, and had a very pleasant life with her British live-in boyfriend. She thought it was heading towards marriage.

She was assigned a quick trip to NYC for a short piece on the announcement of candidate 17, because there was just nobody else available. The politics reporters had gotten to choose, in order of seniority, which campaign they wanted to be assigned to. The campaign went on… and on… she got tons of airtime, she got a few good scoops… When other campaigns flamed out and other reporters came available and wanted her beat, her boyfriend urged her to take the out. It was an ultimatum — back to London and to him, or he’d break up with her. She waved bye-bye to the asshole who’d only be with her on condition she crippled her career for him.

Bottom line… she’s single now, absolutely available, if you’re a man who’d who’d be totally supportive of her ambition and would never in any way try to block her. Bonus points if you’re a good cook, and would consider being a full-time Mr Mom when the kids come.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:32:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:32:50am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:34:44am

re: #505 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wuzzat?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:36:28am

re: #509 Barefoot Grin

wuzzat?

line to see POTUS at UNC today

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:37:51am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

line to see POTUS at UNC today

Obama cancelled his campaign appearances on behalf of Hillary. Bill Mitchell told me so.

/

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:38:05am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:38:34am

re: #512 FormerDirtDart

To people who want him to Stay on Message: This is the message. Bullying someone who sees through him. — Dave Weigel

RINO

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:38:37am
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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:38:45am

re: #511 Sir John Barron

Obama cancelled his campaign appearances on behalf of Hillary. Bill Mitchell told me so.

/

And deleted all social media references to HRC, because he’s not supporting her.

Hannity said it, so it must be true!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:39:55am
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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:40:04am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:40:08am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

line to see POTUS at UNC today

Kids these days….

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:40:14am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

line to see POTUS at UNC today

Scott Walker says all these people are elite libtards from DC.

/

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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:40:39am

re: #506 sagehen

Does she have a problem dating someone a couple years younger than her?

/// (half)

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:41:41am
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sagehen  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:41:54am

re: #484 goddamnedfrank

The reporters are professionals who will go to get a scoop and their managers don’t care that they’re sending their staff into harms way to cover a dangerous lunatic who is steadily legitimizing violence against them. It’s all about horserace ratings $$$ kerching.

Their managers absolutely care. They’ve been given the extra training and hazard pay previously reserved for war zone reporters.

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wrenchwench  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:42:16am

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

[“We may never actually know be able to admit, even to ourselves what motivated this act.”]

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:42:46am

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Suspect is Black: Black Lives Matter and Colin Kaepernick are at fault and it is part of a major plot involving countless other accomplices. Crime is political, terrorism-linked.

Suspect is White: Who knows what his motivation was, and he’s no doubt a lone wolf with no friends or accomplices. Suffers from mental illness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:43:06am
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:43:52am

Please see correction below

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Franklin  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:44:32am
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:45:46am

Correction:

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Thanks Hillary!”
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Franklin  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:47:17am

re: #527 Franklin

Related:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:47:27am
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Kragar  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:49:07am
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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:49:47am

re: #525 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But, but, Clinton’s ground game sucks!!1! That’s what the Twitter pundits tell me!!1!

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wrenchwench  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:51:20am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Chapel Hill native James Taylor is joining President Obama at UNC today]

He’s singing in my shop right now! Recorded, of course.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:51:35am

re: #521 FormerDirtDart

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Wonder where that bogus text # goes to. If Hillary’s team is as good as I think they are, they’ll figure out a way to intercept and will immediately respond to those texts with the correct info and/or have someone call and explain.

But what a bunch of bogus crap from more deplorables. And Twitter is just pathetic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:52:32am
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Belafon  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:53:47am

re: #534 BeachDem

Wonder where that bogus text # goes to. If Hillary’s team is as good as I think they are, they’ll figure out a way to intercept and will immediately respond to those texts with the correct info and/or have someone call and explain.

But what a bunch of bogus crap from more deplorables. And Twitter is just pathetic.

Even as good as they are, it could be lost in the sea of information. Someone should find a way to get that to them just in case.

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Skip Intro  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:54:11am

re: #495 Decatur Deb

Let’s wait for the FBI’s tweet on this.

There won’t be one unless it helps Trump.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:54:28am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If I’d just stayed in Durham one more day…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:55:23am

re: #413 Ziggy_TARDIS

At Hillary Campaign again today.

Hope Monmouth and Marquette have some good polling news.

STOP FUCKING LOOKING AT POLLS. YOU NEED AN INTERVENTION.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:58:29am

re: #538 BeachDem

If I’d just stayed in Durham one more day…

Feeling better yet?

541
Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:58:40am

re: #539 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 10:59:29am

another livestream:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:00:33am
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:00:38am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:02:36am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

What is this election missing? Empathy for Trump voters.washingtonpost.com
— Washington Post

OFFS

How about empathy for Hillary voters? Geesh, “white working class Trump voters” are such precious flowers.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:02:52am

“…No other presidential candidate has had such an extensive and publicly known record of business deals with mob associates—and of making false and contradictory statements to keep these dirty connections from becoming a major campaign controversy.”

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:04:06am

re: #540 Stanley Sea

Feeling better yet?

Not really, but I’m hoping for the best. Right now remotely arranging two shifts for tomorrow, because this fucking project will never be over.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:04:08am

re: #544 FormerDirtDart

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What dis?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:04:39am

re: #546 jaunte

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Does it involve Hillary emails or the Clinton Foundation? No? Then no scandal.

//

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:05:25am

re: #544 FormerDirtDart

I can’t see what this is in reply to.

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sagehen  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:06:21am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Black Jeopardy with Tom Hanks - SNL

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:06:23am

re: #549 Sir John Barron

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:06:38am

re: #550 Belafon

I can’t see what this is in reply to.

New York Post tweet saying Huma Abadein being attacked for her heritage.

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:07:04am
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Bubblehead II  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:07:14am

re: #550 Belafon

I can’t see what this is in reply to.

New York Post ‏@nypost 10m10 minutes ago

Huma Abedin is being attacked for her heritage nyp.st

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Tigger2  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:07:48am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:08:28am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Hey, Bob, can we fire up another one of those Who Are The Trump Voters? articles again?”

/

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:08:51am
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wrenchwench  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:09:25am

re: #545 Sir John Barron

OFFS

How about empathy for Hillary voters? Geesh, “white working class Trump voters” are such precious flowers.

Here I come to a different conclusion than Ms. Hochschild:

Q: So the onus is on progressives? Is there a responsibility for conservatives to reach out too?

[A] It goes both ways but I think liberals bear the bigger responsibility, and the bigger interest, if they want to understand why the democratic party has lost so many blue collar white voters.

The onus is upon those on the left because the conservatives are morally set against it.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:09:26am

re: #556 Tigger2

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Can’t have empathy for the “other”.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:09:33am

re: #558 Kragar

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Yes, we should have greater empathy for the all white mobs yelling “LOCK HER UP” and calling a “C*NT”.

/

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:09:36am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I thought that was in 1918 … oh phenomena not pneumonia.

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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:09:52am

wonkette.com

Someone is intentionally sabotaging Minnesota’s health care exchange enrolment phone lines and Website.

Apparently robocallers are jamming their health insurance exchange lines.

Governor of Minnesota called it “deplorable.”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:10:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:10:37am

re: #557 Sir John Barron

“Hey, Bob, can we fire up another one of those Who Are The Trump Voters? articles again?”

/

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:10:48am

re: #559 wrenchwench

Here I come to a different conclusion than Ms. Hochschild:

The onus is upon those on the left because the conservatives are morally set against it.

Who is this troubled heart?

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sagehen  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:10:55am

re: #546 jaunte

“…No other presidential candidate has had such an extensive and publicly known record of business deals with mob associates—and of making false and contradictory statements to keep these dirty connections from becoming a major campaign controversy.”

I dunno… JFK could maybe compete on that metric.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:12:51am

re: #566 Sir John Barron

Who is this troubled heart?

Ah, yes, her.

Note, the picture accompanying this article has a white dude with a Hillary For Prison tee-shirt.

But, yes, let’s have empathy for this hateful as*hole.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:14:16am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

My suspicions were confirmed when I spoke to Ed Sherman, a sixty-seven-year-old retired teacher who has a thirty-seven-foot-tall sign outside his house that reads “Barack Obama Is A Demogorgon From Hell.” Though he believes that Obama is a secret member of ISIS who has recruited Hillary Clinton to smooth the group’s transition into witchcraft, he insists his support for Trump has nothing to do with race or gender.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:14:30am

re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Keerist on a wheat thin—these people hurt my brain. It reminds me of the NYT opinion piece by some academic in New Jersey who said we should all shed tears for the poor, mistreated young white males who have had to deal with the tragedy of losing their lock on white privilege.

Like Alexandra Pelosi’s “Right American Feeling Wronged” it never ends with these assholes.

Fuck them. And fuck privileged trust-fund baby, Meghan McCain, and don’t even get me started on Susan Sarandon.

I’m in a mood—can you tell?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:15:21am
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wrenchwench  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:17:14am

re: #566 Sir John Barron

Who is this troubled heart?

I used to read her (and/or her spouse, maybe) when I was a kid and the magazine Mother Jones had just come out. Wiki’s summation of her sociology:

Hochschildian sociology works to understand how the personal, private, and familial parts of a person’s life continues to be altered by institutions like the workplace, or by forces of commodification that operate globally.[

She needs to get out more, or did until recently.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:18:23am

I think everyone is due for a fix…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:18:34am

re: #572 wrenchwench

I used to read her (and/or her spouse, maybe) when I was a kid and the magazine Mother Jones had just come out. Wiki’s summation of her sociology:

She needs to get out more, or did until recently.

Yeah I read a book review of her new book in the NYT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:19:45am
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wrenchwench  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:20:00am

re: #574 Sir John Barron

Yeah I read a book review of her new book in the NYT.

That can be such a time-saving activity.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:20:08am

re: #568 Sir John Barron

Ah, yes, her.

Note, the picture accompanying this article has a white dude with a Hillary For Prison tee-shirt.

But, yes, let’s have empathy for this hateful as*hole.

Empathy is appropriate. If I knew how to cure them I would.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:21:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:22:26am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:25:36am

Hug your loved ones, folks. Breathe. If you’re feeling anxious about the election, take a break from the news cycle for awhile.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:26:34am

re: #559 wrenchwench

Q: What were your preconceived stereotypes or expectations before you first visited Louisiana for this book in 2011?

Hochschild: What I expected was a self-centered people, but I found people who were nothing like that, quite the opposite. They were openhearted, they were communal. They were very eager to be known. They’d say, ‘Thanks for coming. We’re the flyover state, people don’t care about us, they don’t know who we are. They think we’re racist and homophobic and sexist and fat.’ There was a gratitude toward me, and I would tell them exactly who I was: ‘I think I live in a political bubble, and I’m trying to get out of mine and into yours. Will you talk to me? In some of them you sensed loss and a sense of being invisible and unappreciated and insulted. That liberals just think they’re rednecks. Here were people, some who had worked very hard, half were college-educated, and they just felt put down, and they felt a drifting downward in their economic circumstance, but didn’t hear anyone listening to them about their distress. They felt like a minority group.

One is tempted to suggest they stop thinking of themselves as victims, and accept that this feeling of being unknown and unappreciated is common to most people in the world who just soldier on through it.

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wrenchwench  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:26:47am

Jamelle is communicating his reaction to Hochshild:

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:27:14am

re: #569 Sir John Barron

Idiot.

Demogorgon is Chaotic Evil, and thus dwells in the Abyss.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:27:42am

re: #521 FormerDirtDart

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Fuck twitter

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:27:56am

Trump’s neo-Nazi supporters aside, there are certainly economically disenfranchised blue-collar white working class voters who’ve been hit hard in recent decades, and in their desperation, they’ve embraced Trump.

No one ever told them that their world is gone, and it’s not coming back. The post-WWII environment for US blue collar workers was a unique experience, a historic anomaly. There is simply no way whatsoever that any future blue-collar workers will ever have it so good ever again; our economic competitors had been quite literally bombed into oblivion. It makes no difference who is POTUS. The problem lies in telling these folks - with brutal honesty - that the rules they grew up with no longer apply.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:28:05am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Was Bobo involved in this bird liner writeup?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:29:13am

re: #581 jaunte

Working class white voters who support Trump are allowed to be victims but no one else is.

///

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wrenchwench  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:29:46am

re: #581 jaunte

One is tempted to suggest they stop thinking of themselves as victims, and accept that this feeling of being unknown and unappreciated is common to most people in the world who just soldier on through it.

Yeah, I think they don’t need the empathy expressed about them and all over them, they need a big injection of it.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:30:39am

re: #581 jaunte

One is tempted to suggest they stop thinking of themselves as victims, and accept that this feeling of being unknown and unappreciated is common to most people in the world who just soldier on through it.

Meanwhile, voters in the “heartland” have been mocking us coastal dwellers for decades and I guess that’s OK, calling us “unAmericans” and worse.

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CleverToad  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:31:21am

re: #413 Ziggy_TARDIS

At Hillary Campaign again today.

Hope Monmouth and Marquette have some good polling news.

Very good to see you’re at the campaign.

Spend your spare time looking historical elections, Dr Who sites, religious instruction, whatever will keep you from sneaking back to take ‘just one more’ hit of the poll-crack. Get into a discussion with someone who needs to be convinced that Clara was a good companion. Not going to tell you not to be anxious, but perhaps shift the laser-focus in a different direction for awhile, for your health’s sake.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:32:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:32:17am

re: #586 Timothy Watson

Was Bobo involved in this bird liner writeup?

pretty sure it was sarcastic humor

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A wild (((wolfy))) has appeared  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:36:30am

re: #580 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:37:33am
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Anymouse  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:38:47am

re: #589 Sir John Barron

Meanwhile, voters in the “heartland” have been mocking us coastal dwellers for decades and I guess that’s OK, calling us “unAmericans” and worse.

Voters on the coasts have been mocking us in the heartland, calling us “flyover country,” “uneducated,” “hicks,” “rednecks,” &c.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2016 • 11:42:49am

re: #570 BeachDem

Keerist on a wheat thin—these people hurt my brain. It reminds me of the NYT opinion piece by some academic in New Jersey who said we should all shed tears for the poor, mistreated young white males who have had to deal with the tragedy of losing their lock on white privilege.

Like Alexandra Pelosi’s “Right American Feeling Wronged” it never ends with these assholes.

Fuck them. And fuck privileged trust-fund baby, Meghan McCain, and don’t even get me started on Susan Sarandon.

I’m in a mood—can you tell?

I can’t find that soft spot in my heart for Charlie Manson either, must be a shortcoming of mine.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2016 • 12:05:56pm

re: #585 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s neo-Nazi supporters aside, there are certainly economically disenfranchised blue-collar white working class voters who’ve been hit hard in recent decades, and in their desperation, they’ve embraced Trump.

No one ever told them that their world is gone, and it’s not coming back…

Billy Joel wrote “Allentown” in the late 70s and released it in 1982. That’s 35+ years of the message being out there. It’s not that I lack empathy, but there are many, many disenfranchised groups who do not seem to engender this outpouring of concern, when the facts have been in evidence for so long.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 2, 2016 • 12:13:50pm

re: #558 Kragar

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Ah, I see that the intrepid adventurer has fired up the Volvo and set out for the bush to observe the Trumperati in their native habitat.

I could have saved him the trouble.

I LIVE in their native habitat. They suck.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 2, 2016 • 12:29:52pm

re: #559 wrenchwench

How about “Fuck them, and fuck their racist, misogynist, homophobic, ignorant feelings?”
Cuz that’s about where I am at. I ain’t reaching out to any deplorables. Fuck them.

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Donkey With No Name  Nov 2, 2016 • 12:40:15pm

re: #585 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s neo-Nazi supporters aside, there are certainly economically disenfranchised blue-collar white working class voters who’ve been hit hard in recent decades, and in their desperation, they’ve embraced Trump.

No one ever told them that their world is gone, and it’s not coming back. The post-WWII environment for US blue collar workers was a unique experience, a historic anomaly. There is simply no way whatsoever that any future blue-collar workers will ever have it so good ever again; our economic competitors had been quite literally bombed into oblivion. It makes no difference who is POTUS. The problem lies in telling these folks - with brutal honesty - that the rules they grew up with no longer apply.

Or, following Piketty at least, not without the tax rates of the Eisenhower era.


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