Pathetic: Fox News Anchor Bret Baier Apologizes for Three False Stories About Hillary Clinton

No, Hillary Clinton isn’t about to be indicted, and no, her email server was not “hacked”
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You know that HUGE BREAKING STORY that was all over right wing media — and a lot of more mainstream media as well — that it was 99% certain Hillary Clinton’s email server was hacked by at least FIVE foreign sources, and the investigations into this and the Clinton Foundation were leading to an indictment?

Nope. Fake.

And now even Bret Baier, who “broke” these stories, is abandoning the fakery and apologizing for his “mistake.”

Well, sort of.

I explained a couple of times yesterday the phrasing of one of my answers to Brit Hume on Wednesday night, saying it was inartful, the way I answered the last question about whether the investigations would continue after the election. And I answered that, yes, our sources said it would. They would continue to likely to an indictment. Well, that just wasn’t inartful, it was a mistake, and for that I’m sorry. I should have said, they will continue to build their case. Indictment obviously is a very loaded word, Jon, especially in this atmosphere and no one knows if there would or would not be an indictment no matter how strong investigators feel their evidence is. It is obviously a prosecutor who has to agree to take the case and make that case to a grand jury. We stand by the sourcing, on the ongoing active Clinton Foundation investigation and are working to get sources with knowledge of the details on the record, and on camera. Hopefully today.

As usual, getting the fake story out there is the prime goal of right wing media and punditry, because they know that even if they have to walk it back and apologize later, the damage will already be done. This has always been a dishonest conservative tactic, but it’s absolutely rampant this year.

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645 comments
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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:09:53am

“A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”—Mark Twain.

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Elian Gonzalez  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:12:26am

“I should have said, they will continue to build their case.”

So, “sorry, not sorry.” Clear as mud.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:15:49am

re: #2 Elian Gonzalez

“I should have said, they will continue to build their case.”

So, “sorry, not sorry.” Clear as mud.

“Ooops, our bad. But remember, folks, we’re still Fair & Balanced, and everyone else is not.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:15:55am

Here’s a video made in 1967 about what 1999 would be like, made by Philco-Ford for their 75th anniversary, featuring a young (and noted Trump supporter) Wink Martindale.

1999 A.D. (1967)

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Mattand  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:16:00am

re: #2 Elian Gonzalez

“I should have said, they will continue to build their case.”

So, “sorry, not sorry.” Clear as mud.

Roger Ailes taught them well.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:16:43am
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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:17:47am

re: #2 Elian Gonzalez

Welcome, hatchling.

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plansbandc  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:18:34am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:19:41am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:23:02am

The Hill: Clinton Grows her lead nationally
Reuters: Poll shows consistent lead for Clinton
Nate Silver: Polls not looking good for Clinton.

Fuck this.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:23:34am

“…Apparently Baier came by his information by way of Brit Hume, who apparently picked up a hot tip from Rudy Giuliani, who apparently picked up a hot tip from the New York FBI office. Talk about a game of telephone.”
crooksandliars.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:23:53am

The Clintons threatened him! Blargh!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:24:40am

Election commissioner in Pine Bluff accused of voter intimidation

“Mr. Soffer stood in the doorway of the early-voting location and told voters to shut up and go home,” Burks said. “This is deeply troubling to the voters of Jefferson County and also to the election administrators whose job it is to administer the elections free of fear and intimidation.”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:24:43am

re: #4 Eric The Fruit Bat

Here’s a video made in 1967 about what 1999 would be like, made by Philco-Ford for their 75th anniversary, featuring a young (and noted Trump supporter) Wink Martindale.

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Video

I’d swear that’s the same beach used in Planet of the Apes

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:25:20am

How many people will have this misinformation in their heads Tuesday?
What a pisser.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:27:52am
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Tigger2005  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:28:13am

re: #15 Rightwingconspirator

How many people will have this misinformation in their heads Tuesday?
What a pisser.

I’m not concerned at all. This didn’t have nearly the legs of the Comey letter story, and that had negligible impact. It mainly reached people who had no intention of voting for Hillary anyway. No worries.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:28:48am

re: #16 jaunte

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Media newspapers rigged!

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:29:56am

re: #18 Sir John Barron

It’s only readers!!!

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lawhawk  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:30:03am

re: #17 Tigger2005

It’s had some effect, at least according to RCP.

The endless lies and smears takes its toll. That Baier walked back one batch doesn’t diminish the fact that his actions could have swung the election on the basis of vaporware (the GOP’s chosen method of data).

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:30:31am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:31:00am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:31:45am

re: #4 Eric The Fruit Bat

They got a lot of predictions right, others were off by 10 or 20 years. I did lol at “You Flunk”. Apparently they failed to predict political correctness.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:33:57am

Public service posting:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:34:35am

re: #20 lawhawk

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It’s had some effect, at least according to RCP.

The endless lies and smears takes its toll. That Baier walked back one batch doesn’t diminish the fact that his actions could have swung the election on the basis of vaporware (the GOP’s chosen method of data).

RCP 2012: Obama leads by .7%. Actual win: 3.9%. Clinton has already won Nevada in the early voting. She may not win Arizona, but that was always just a hope. Fox will believe anything.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:36:08am

re: #20 lawhawk

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It’s had some effect, at least according to RCP.

The endless lies and smears takes its toll. That Baier walked back one batch doesn’t diminish the fact that his actions could have swung the election on the basis of vaporware (the GOP’s chosen method of data).

I’m having difficulty believing that there were actual 1 to 4 point swings in a week. That doesn’t happen this late.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:36:09am

This is why I am surprised the Clinton campaign hasn’t released anything damaging on Trump. They seem more than content to let the Comey thing go without much of a response.

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:36:24am

re: #4 Eric The Fruit Bat

Here’s a video made in 1967 about what 1999 would be like, made by Philco-Ford for their 75th anniversary, featuring a young (and noted Trump supporter) Wink Martindale.

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Video

Geez, 1999 was boring.

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Tigger2005  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:36:40am

re: #20 lawhawk

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It’s had some effect, at least according to RCP.

The endless lies and smears takes its toll. That Baier walked back one batch doesn’t diminish the fact that his actions could have swung the election on the basis of vaporware (the GOP’s chosen method of data).

I don’t think the Comey letter has had as much effect as people believe. Anyway, I wasn’t denying the letter did have some impact. My point was that this latest story had far less. When the Comey letter story broke it was all over my news feed instantly, and all major media outlets were obsessing over it. This latest story sent the wingnut blogosphere into a frenzy, but Baier’s apology has been the bigger story overall in the msm. So I don’t think this changed many minds, if at all. It mainly reached those who hate Hillary anyway.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:36:54am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:36:56am

re: #26 Mike Lamb

I tend to agree but then again, this is not your typical election.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:36:59am

re: #20 lawhawk

my go to: electoral-vote.com
has clinton 47
trump 45
johnson 3

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Belafon  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:37:35am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

This is why I am surprised the Clinton campaign hasn’t released anything damaging on Trump. They seem more than content to let the Comey thing go without much of a response.

Maybe she’s leaving Comey hanging out alone for a reason.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:38:02am
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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:38:25am
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Tigger2005  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:38:54am

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

I tend to agree but then again, this is not your typical election.

Bill Palmer of DailyNewsBin makes a good case that polling organizations are still struggling with how to adjust the data to account for increased early voting.

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Teukka  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:39:27am

Continued from downstairs:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:40:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:40:20am

re: #32 dangerman

my go to: electoral-vote.com
has clinton 47
trump 45
johnson 3

Is this national or a certain state because if Trump is within two nationally what the fuck?

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:41:17am

re: #17 Tigger2005

I’m not concerned at all. This didn’t have nearly the legs of the Comey letter story, and that had negligible impact. It mainly reached people who had no intention of voting for Hillary anyway. No worries.

I’m not worried about it having that much of an effect. But that assumes it’s not close, thinking downticket Indy voters. That and the brazen nature of it.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:41:24am

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Is this national or a certain state because if Trump is within two nationally what the fuck?

oops sorry - that was re Florida only

i misread the chart in #20

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:42:02am

I wonder what made Baier make this “correction”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:42:24am
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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:42:34am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:43:15am

re: #41 dangerman

oops sorry - that was re Florida only

i misread the chart in #20

Ok that makes more sense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:43:39am

It still scares me: chaos and misinformation favor DT and they are so easy to spread and generate in the current fever swamp of political reporting and discourse.

We are not choosing our next President based on anybody’s records or policy proposals or economic plans: we are choosing him/her based on who comes up with the juiciest, most lurid scandals at the latest possible date.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:44:04am

re: #13 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Election commissioner in Pine Bluff accused of voter intimidation

“And that’s when you stuffed Mr. Soffer in a garbage can.”

“Yes, Your Honour.”

“Case dismissed.”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:44:16am

re: #41 dangerman

oops sorry - that was re Florida only

i misread the chart in #20

has EV at 317 for HRC although that seems a little optimistic.

Interesting, Alaska. Dem % has been trending up in recent elections. W Bush pounded Gore/Kerry there, and McCain won big (with Palin VP). But Obama in 2012 narrowed it somewhat.

Still doubt Dem wins there this time, but favorable trends.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:44:16am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I’m gonna build a new base and I’ll make Turkey pay for it!”

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piratedan  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:44:24am

re: #44 Kragar

wouldn’t surprise me if Roger Stone is paid by the “hot take” either.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:44:53am

re: #11 jaunte

“…Apparently Baier came by his information by way of Brit Hume, who apparently picked up a hot tip from Rudy Giuliani, who apparently picked up a hot tip from the New York FBI office. Talk about a game of telephone.”

modern journalistic standards in a nutshell

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:45:14am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:45:29am

re: #44 Kragar

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It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

Didn’t Howard Dean get in trouble for saying this about Trump?

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:45:29am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:45:40am

Hopefully Trump says enough stupid shit at his rallies tomorrow to knock the Comey thing from the headlines.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:46:28am

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Ok that makes more sense.

yeah - electoral-vote.com tracks state polls only. no generic national stuff

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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:46:32am

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

Hopefully Trump says enough stupid shit at his rallies tomorrow to knock the Comey thing from the headlines.

The Comey-thing is all he’s talking about now. He’s got nothing else. It was a lifeline to Trump and the GOP.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:47:24am
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Tigger2005  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:47:43am

re: #57 Sir John Barron

The Comey-thing is all he’s talking about now. He’s got nothing else. It was a lifeline to Trump and the GOP.

More like a llife- dental floss.

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:48:41am

re: #44 Kragar

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WTF is Deagle Network’s NutriMedical Report? Sounds like something Roger created out of whole cloth in his fevered brain-like appendage.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:49:16am

re: #54 MsJ

Ugh, you really don’t want to read the comments on that.

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Jayleia  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:50:44am

re: #61 Eclectic Cyborg

God so loved the world…until he read the comment section.

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:50:50am

Repeating cuz dead thread (Hi, CL!)

Finally accomplished my civic duty and did the voting thing after several false starts. First thing I noticed when arriving at the voting location was that one would never know this was a national presidential election. Of all the hundreds of signs for various downticket candidates there was only one sign I saw for either presidential candidate, a little “Latinos for Trump” sign buried amongst the rest. Very weird.

Today is the last day of early voting and there was a very long line. Took me a bit over an hour to get to the voting area. For comparison in past elections, this is the first time I have ever had to stand in line really at all, never more than 5-6 people ahead of me. Being Houston and a heavy minority area in general, the voters were a wide ethnic mix. Everyone was mellow and friendly and we got the sillies as we finally made it to the room to vote after winding around room to room and down the long hall, making a pact to scream in unison on the count of 3 if we were funneled into yet another room of winding line.

Didn’t get my reward margs for the effort but I feel terrific having voted a straight Dem ticket. (And I did stop and pick up a big Smirnoff Ice cuz hey, I deserve it.)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:51:06am

re: #62 Jayleia

God so loved the world…until he read the comment section.

Mmmm, might have to steal that.

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Belafon  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:52:26am

re: #58 jaunte

Lot’s of people are going to have to learn this election to vote even if those around them are losing their shit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:53:12am

re: #4 Eric The Fruit Bat

Here’s a video made in 1967 about what 1999 would be like, made by Philco-Ford for their 75th anniversary, featuring a young (and noted Trump supporter) Wink Martindale.

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Video

Uccch I watched that thing for 10 minutes. I don’t know what was worse, the “music” or the stringent gender roles.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:54:26am

re: #65 Belafon

The Trump Rally behavior is starting to spill out onto the street.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:55:01am

re: #65 Belafon

Lot’s of people are going to have to learn this election to vote even if those around them are losing their shit.

I’m still quite confident of a Clinton victory, and I’m pretty confident that the Democrats will take back the Senate.

The Trumpers are gonna lose their shit like we’ve never seen when their “God-Emperor” (LOLOLOL) crashes and burns.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:56:36am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:56:43am

re: #62 Jayleia

God so loved the world…until he read the comment section.

you should Twitter that

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:57:02am

re: #58 jaunte

That’ll just make more people vote against him.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:57:43am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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“appears”

We’re just asking questions here!

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:58:18am

re: #61 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, you really don’t want to read the comments on that.

I read some of them.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 11:58:19am

re: #71 GlutenFreeJesus

That’ll just make more people vote against him.

Yeah, doesn’t seem like a great measure for winning hearts and minds.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:01:41pm

re: #74 Sir John Barron

Yeah, doesn’t seem like a great measure for winning hearts and minds.

They don’t want to do that—intimidation is all they understand.

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Jayleia  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:02:27pm

re: #70 Sir John Barron

I *could* Twitter it, but I’m strictly bush-league on Twitter. If others want to use that without attribution, I’m cool with that.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:02:30pm
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:04:03pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whoa

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:04:05pm

Glad I skipped lunch, because this description of Tucker Carlson and his pathetic rag would have made me lose it. From that bastion of left-wing, Democratic supporting news, the New York Times:

As Fox faces competition from scrappier rivals like Breitbart News, Mr. Carlson, 47, is in some ways a throwback to a more genteel era of conservatism. Preppy and jovial, Mr. Carlson founded The Daily Caller, a provocative, if relatively moderate, right-leaning website, and he has often evinced a mischievous streak; in 2006, he agreed to be a contestant on “Dancing With the Stars,” although he was eliminated in the first round.

Preppy, jovial, mischievous, genteel, moderate—why Tucker sounds downright delightful. Barf.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:04:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:04:10pm

One piece of good news to report - it looks like Gateway Pundit has been removed from the Google News listings.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:04:37pm

re: #71 GlutenFreeJesus

That’ll just make more people vote against him.

That was my first thought, too.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:05:42pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

One piece of good news to report - it looks like Gateway Pundit has been removed from the Google News listings.

Now if they would just do that to Fox News.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:05:46pm
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:05:49pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

One piece of good news to report - it looks like Gateway Pundit has been removed from the Google News listings.

Oh, SMOTI ain’t gonna like that.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:05:52pm

Trump supporters are losing their damn minds.

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Belafon  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:06:01pm

re: #80 MsJ

Trump rallies just keep getting bigger and bigger.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:06:08pm
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:06:14pm

re: #83 Kilroy was here

Now if they would just do that to Fox News.

Breitbart first.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:06:14pm

re: #76 Jayleia

I *could* Twitter it, but I’m strictly bush-league on Twitter. If others want to use that without attribution, I’m cool with that.

I got cha.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:06:39pm

re: #86 jaunte

That happened a long, long time ago.

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Belafon  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:07:09pm

re: #86 jaunte

Trump supporters are losing their damn minds.

That will cement my middle son voting for her in 2020.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:07:49pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart

Ballot typo my ass.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:08:22pm
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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:08:48pm

Drudge Report via Infowars via Wikileaks

Hahahaha

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Stanley Sea  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:09:51pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart

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Typo my ass.

Our system is fucked.

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piratedan  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:10:45pm

man… what is next… I guess they’re going to accuse Hillary of sleeping with known horn-dog Bill Clinton… //////////////////////

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SteelPH  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:10:46pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:11:05pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart

Oh yeah I’m sure that was just an innocent typo…

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:11:45pm
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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:12:13pm

musing on impeaching clinton

the r’s (purported) arguments
the flaws
and a real cool clinton option

like everything else this year - it’ll never happen, then here we are omg guess what just happened….

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:13:13pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:13:31pm

WE ARE ALL MUCH BETTER OFF YOU ROTTING APRICOT TOPPED WITH URINE-COLORED COTTON CANDY

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:13:45pm

Oh you just know the GOP would love to get “Clinton Impeachment” in the headlines again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:14:27pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh you just know the GOP would love to get “Clinton Impeachment” in the headlines again.

It will be, within minutes of her taking office…if they wait that long.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:16:02pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

Typo my ass.

Our system is fucked.

that was typeset, reviewed and approved - likely by three or more different people

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:16:49pm

Shoot me now.

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calochortus  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:17:36pm

re: #98 SteelPH

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I hope you’re getting some professional help? I’m pretty sure dealing with the anxiety will be key to getting on with your life.
I wish you the best.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:17:49pm

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

WE ARE ALL MUCH BETTER OFF YOU ROTTING APRICOT TOPPED WITH URINE-COLORED COTTON CANDY

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If Obama worked as hard on straightening out our country as he has trying to protect and elect Hillary, we would all be much better off!

…that pesky branch of govt called “congress”

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:17:57pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

Welcome, hatchling.

Hatchling with a historic username.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:18:21pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:19:08pm

re: #108 MsJ

Shoot me now.

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And yet you’d think the devil worshippers would stay away from email.

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lawhawk  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:19:08pm

re: #107 Kragar

Meow.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:19:30pm

re: #108 MsJ

Well, the RWNJ’s have not only jumped the shark and nuked the fridge, they’ve actually jumped over the shark that’s in the nuked fridge floating around somewhere in the neighborhood of Aldebaran.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:19:40pm

re: #86 jaunte

Today I have an English slang insult dictionary open on my browser to assist me in my commenting duties. Can you tell?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:19:46pm

re: #94 Kragar

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Next thing you know, Hillary will be The Butcher of Snipes.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:20:41pm

re: #117 GlutenFreeJesus

Next thing you know, Hillary will be The Butcher of Snipes.

Those poor snipes!

///

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:20:50pm

re: #98 SteelPH

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{{{SteelPH}}}

Depression is a dastardly and crippling illness. Please do get the help that is there for you. There is a light at the end of that blackness. Promise, not platitude.

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garzooma  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:20:54pm

re: #83 Kilroy was here

Now if they would just do that to Fox News.

I always wondered why Google didn’t cut off Fox after Murdoch claimed they were “stealing” Fox content. Google is supposed to not link to sites if they request it. Having the head of Fox accuse you of stealing sounded like a request to not link to Fox sites — to me, anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:21:02pm

re: #113 Sir John Barron

And yet you’d think the devil worshippers would stay away from email.

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Real devil worshippers don’t need no stinking email…

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:21:48pm

re: #113 Sir John Barron

And yet you’d think the devil worshippers would stay away from email.

///

Yes, I thought they communicated through etheric vibrations.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:21:49pm
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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:21:55pm

re: #114 lawhawk

Meow.

Sorry, did you just meow?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:22:03pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Real devil worshippers don’t need no stinking email…

Real Satanists use homing pigeons, FTW!!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:22:45pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

Today I have an English slang insult dictionary open on my browser to assist me in my commenting duties. Can you tell?

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I see that “LifeZette” site all over FB now from Christian conservative types. The site itself hides very well that it’s a front for Laura Ingraham, but she appears to have no problem pimping it on Twitter.

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Weaselone  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:23:16pm

No way am I clicking on any of those links. WFT are they talking about?

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:23:33pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:24:03pm

re: #128 Kragar

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That’s some company.

Not good company. But some company.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:24:37pm

re: #111 ObserverArt

Hatchling with a historic username.

I noticed that. One eyebrow up….

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:25:40pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:25:53pm

re: #129 Sir John Barron

That’s some company.

Not a good company. But some company.

Bad Company - Bad Company (Lyrics)

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lawhawk  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:26:18pm

re: #128 Kragar

It’s the Axis of AssHate™.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:26:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:27:18pm

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

Real Satanists use homing pigeons bats, FTW!!

FTFY

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:28:37pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:28:48pm

re: #44 Kragar

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Roger Stone is scum that needs to be disinfected and wiped clean out of politics. The only reason this idiot is even on the scene is because he was buds with Roy Cohn who was a scummy Trump family lawyer.

This is another example of the people that Trump associates with.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:29:02pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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Brian Williams melts Halperin’s face. This is excruciating.

Well, at least I’ve now realized that Mark Halperin and Hugh Hewitt are two different people. This guy’s not an albino.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:30:47pm

Obligatory plug for my kid’s fundraiser. Last day is next Thursday

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garzooma  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:30:50pm

Does Bret Baier falling for a fake story just before an election remind anyone else of the Dan Rather fiasco that Little Green Footballs had a hand in breaking?

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:31:20pm

re: #127 Weaselone

No way am I clicking on any of those links. WFT are they talking about?

The email is here:

wikileaks.org

John Podesta’s brother Tony apparently asked if he was coming to some sort of dinner (“Spirit Cooking”) with someone named Marina Abramovic, some sort of weirdo performance artist. I haven’t looked at any of it myself, but some of it is admittedly weird and occult-y.

Conspiracy nuts got out their Jump-to-Conclusions mats and decided that a) merely being asked if you are coming to an event means that you were absolutely in attendance and b) this means John Podesta is an occult blood-drinking devil-worshiper.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:31:52pm

They are literally calling Clinton a witch now.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:32:29pm

re: #136 MsJ

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I wonder how that compares to prior elections, the early vote margins that is.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:33:24pm

re: #142 gocart mozart

They are literally calling Clinton a witch now.

They were bound to get there eventually.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:34:01pm

re: #144 jaunte

They were bound to get there eventually.

It’s only one letter away from the usual.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:34:56pm

re: #140 garzooma

Does Bret Baier falling for a fake story just before an election remind anyone else of the Dan Rather fiasco that Little Green Footballs had a hand in breaking?

No, because Bret Baier never had any credibility.

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Ming5000  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:35:03pm

re: #98 SteelPH

We missed your updings!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:35:18pm
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Weaselone  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:35:28pm

re: #141 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Ah. Thanks.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:35:43pm

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:36:03pm

re: #140 garzooma

Does Bret Baier falling for a fake story just before an election remind anyone else of the Dan Rather fiasco that Little Green Footballs had a hand in breaking?

Except nothing will happen to Baier.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:37:39pm

re: #140 garzooma

Does Bret Baier falling for a fake story just before an election remind anyone else of the Dan Rather fiasco that Little Green Footballs had a hand in breaking?

Well this one doesn’t involve a sitting President but yes, there are paralells.

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Franklin  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:37:50pm

LOOOOL

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Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:38:18pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Brian Williams melts Halperin’s face. This is excruciating. pic.twitter.com
— Steve King (@steveking_) November 4, 2016

A Mark Halperin is what happens when you spay a Sean Hannity.

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:39:09pm

re: #98 SteelPH

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As someone who has been there, I’m pulling for you. Getting help will definitely give you perspective that you need.

Keep moving forward.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:39:22pm

re: #153 Franklin

I wonder if they had to pay the driver extra to be seen in public with that thing?

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:40:26pm

re: #134 Kragar

they want to be told what to think
they are
and then they do

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:42:21pm

re: #141 A wild WITHAK appeared!

The email is here:

wikileaks.org

John Podesta’s brother Tony apparently asked if he was coming to some sort of dinner (“Spirit Cooking”) with someone named Marina Abramovic, some sort of weirdo performance artist. I haven’t looked at any of it myself, but some of it is admittedly weird and occult-y.

Conspiracy nuts got out their Jump-to-Conclusions mats and decided that a) merely being asked if you are coming to an event means that you were absolutely in attendance and b) this means John Podesta is an occult blood-drinking devil-worshiper.

I once had coffee with Anton LaVey.

BOOGA-BOOGA!!!

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:42:52pm

re: #86 jaunte

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Trump supporters are losing their damn minds.

They all seem to be a pack of wild dogs rolling around in cow dung.

(Please excuse me dogs…I love dogs)

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:42:53pm

re: #141 A wild WITHAK appeared!

The email is here:

wikileaks.org

John Podesta’s brother Tony apparently asked if he was coming to some sort of dinner (“Spirit Cooking”) with someone named Marina Abramovic, some sort of weirdo performance artist. I haven’t looked at any of it myself, but some of it is admittedly weird and occult-y.

Conspiracy nuts got out their Jump-to-Conclusions mats and decided that a) merely being asked if you are coming to an event means that you were absolutely in attendance and b) this means John Podesta is an occult blood-drinking devil-worshiper.

so john podesta isnt an occult blood-drinking devil-worshiper?
(asking for a friend)

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:44:00pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:44:49pm

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

I once had coffee with Anton LaVey.

BOOGA-BOOGA!!!

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:45:05pm
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Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:45:52pm

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William Lewis  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:45:56pm

re: #62 Jayleia

God so loved the world…until he read the comment section.

That explains Noah…

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:45:59pm

re: #155 makeitstop

As someone who has been there, I’m pulling for you. Getting help will definitely give you perspective that you need.

Keep moving forward.

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:46:07pm

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

I once had coffee with Anton LaVey.

BOOGA-BOOGA!!!

For realz? That’s pretty cool!

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:46:34pm

re: #161 MsJ

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David Frum is even more pathetic when he tries to be cute and clever than he is when he tries to be earnest and reflective (and I still don’t believe he has actually ever met a Republican.)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:46:49pm

LOL!

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:47:19pm

Fuck me.
I cannot get fucking private comment to work.
Checked how to do it five fucking times.

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stpaulbear  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:47:43pm

re: #106 dangerman

that was typeset, reviewed and approved - likely by three or more different people

Next step for the election officials is to throw out all of her votes because of the irregularity on the ballot. You know someone will want to do that…

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Belafon  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:47:56pm

re: #170 Jebediah, RBG

you missed the slash at the end of your comment.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:48:06pm

re: #161 MsJ

Isn’t the real message that bureaucrats who cross future CoS Podesta stand in serious risk of being transformed into frogs?

And people were scared when Emmanuel was sending dead fish around.

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plansbandc  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:48:20pm

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:48:34pm
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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:49:36pm

re: #164 Dr. Matt

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#HesWithHim

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:51:12pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

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Jenner7  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:51:35pm

Is there anything worse they can say about Hillary? Seems they’ve peaked at devil worship.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:51:38pm

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

I know LaVey didn’t believe in Satan - he was an atheist, though he was fascinated by esoteric or unusual religions, ideas and philosophies.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:51:39pm

re: #171 stpaulbear

Next step for the election officials is to throw out all of her votes because of the irregularity on the ballot. You know someone will want to do that…

miami-dade traffic ticket instructions

if i did this right, the above form starts with “Failure to not satisfy your citation…”

so i asked, what if someone took that literally. what could a judge do?

yeah - probably lose….

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:52:19pm

re: #171 stpaulbear

Next step for the election officials is to throw out all of her votes because of the irregularity on the ballot. You know someone will want to do that…

That was my first thought. Invalid ballot! Reject all Clinton votes!

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Interesting Times  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:52:32pm

While I’m not exactly Jake Tapper’s biggest fan, credit where credit’s due:

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:52:52pm

re: #167 makeitstop

For realz? That’s pretty cool!

Yep. I found him to be an interesting fellow, actually. Eccentric, but there’s nothing wrong with that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:53:08pm

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

I know LaVey didn’t believe in Satan - he was an atheist, though he was fascinated by esoteric or unusual religions, ideas and philosophies.

I think he was basically an Ayn Randian, with some rituals that he made up.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:53:10pm

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

I’m still quite confident of a Clinton victory, and I’m pretty confident that the Democrats will take back the Senate.

The Trumpers are gonna lose their shit like we’ve never seen when their “God-Emperor” (LOLOLOL) crashes and burns.

I don’t have much doubt Clinton will win the election easily. I hope you’re right about the Senate tho.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:53:12pm

re: #178 Jenner7

Is there anything worse they can say about Hillary? Seems they’ve peaked at devil worship.

do not start this…

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Dr. Matt  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:53:54pm

The latest fad: #MannequinChallenge (On IG: instagram.com)

The upside: it’s nearly impossible to get injured. Though, Darwin awaits.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:53:57pm
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Interesting Times  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:54:10pm

re: #185 Nyet

You posted a few tweets from this guy yesterday. Think he’s just messing with people at this point?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:54:28pm

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

I think he was basically an Ayn Randian, with some rituals that he made up.

Precisely. The Church of Satan was basically the Church of Ayn Rand with some woowoo thrown in.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:54:45pm

re: #86 jaunte

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Trump supporters are losing their damn minds.

Wonder if he was doing Christine O’Donnell on the alter?

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gwangung  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:55:15pm

re: #177 gocart mozart

Gullible might be a better term.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:56:16pm

WitchiLeaks

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:56:52pm

re: #178 Jenner7

Is there anything worse they can say about Hillary? Seems they’ve peaked at devil worship.

She has all the Captain and Tennille albums, or so I’ve heard.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:57:33pm

re: #194 Decatur Deb

She has all the Captain and Tennille albums, or so I’ve heard.

Many, many people are saying.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:57:47pm

Satanism was supposed to be the OCTOBER surprise.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:57:50pm

TRO granted

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:57:59pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:58:24pm

re: #172 Belafon

I made sure it was there the four times I re-tried, still wouldn’t hide the fucking comment.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 4, 2016 • 12:59:31pm

The more insane the wingnuts get, the more comfortable I feel about the election. I was a little down due some of the recent polls, but the levity from these nuts is helping.

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:00:25pm

re: #194 Decatur Deb

She has all the Captain and Tennille albums, or so I’ve heard.

Oh good gawd, she’s into muskrats too?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:01:00pm

If Hillary were a witch, Weiner’s wiener would be a turnip.

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:01:38pm

re: #202 Decatur Deb

If Hillary were a witch, Weiner’s wiener would be a turnip.

More like a gherkin.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:01:52pm

re: #200 Timothy Watson

The more insane the wingnuts get, the more comfortable I feel about the election. I was a little down due some of the recent polls, but the levity from these nuts is helping.

It’s an unconscious reflection of their utter desperation.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:02:07pm

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

LaVey strikes me as a brainy guy who liked to have fun and provoke. Of course today his act looks tame.

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lawhawk  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:02:25pm

re: #202 Decatur Deb

If Hillary were a witch, Weiner’s wiener would be a turnip.

Weiner would be in a lot more trouble than just having his weiner turned into a turnip.

Turned into an amoeba in a jar of pond scum is just the start.

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:02:35pm

*snort*

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:02:47pm

re: #201 allegro

Oh good gawd, she’s into muskrats too?

SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO?!!

Muskrat Love - Captain & Tennille

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:03:16pm

re: #203 allegro

More like a gherkin.

Nah, that’s a little Nepalese soldier.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:03:23pm
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plansbandc  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:04:09pm

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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gwangung  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:04:24pm

re: #200 Timothy Watson

The more insane the wingnuts get, the more comfortable I feel about the election. I was a little down due some of the recent polls, but the levity from these nuts is helping.

Damn true….

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:04:57pm

re: #212 plansbandc

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Here……have the antidote.

Ghost - Square Hammer

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:05:39pm

I don’t get where this Satanism stuff comes from. Abramovic is not a Satanist.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:06:01pm

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

+1 for Ghost.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:06:12pm

re: #206 gocart mozart

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Yeah and you understand the issues perfectly Curt.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:07:24pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:07:25pm

POTUS defends the free speech rights of a Trump supporter and SMOTI says he “loses it” LOL

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:07:34pm

re: #218 Dr. Matt

Multiple people stabbed at Rutgers University in New Jersey

Cue wingnut bullshit about knives and guns.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:07:47pm

Fuck it. I fucking give up.
SteelPH, I had a long reply that I cannot fucking make private.
Condensed version - I have been part of where you’re at. Don’t blow off getting professional help - when you find a therapist/doctor/treatment regimen that works for you , you will be amazed at how much better you will feel.
Good luck!

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:08:03pm

re: #215 Nyet

Anything not specifically Evangelical Protestant Christianity is, by default, Satanic.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:08:03pm

re: #200 Timothy Watson

The more insane the wingnuts get, the more comfortable I feel about the election. I was a little down due some of the recent polls, but the levity from these nuts is helping.

paraphrasing olbermann “if we cant beat morons, stupid morons….”

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:08:27pm

re: #98 SteelPH

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If I read it right, I see you say you are an artist. As an artist I can certainly understand a bit of where you are coming from, I sometimes think artists all share similar traits and one of the biggest is we can be so hard on ourselves because we are searching to find life’s answers and feel emotions so much in that search. That is why we communicate through art, because it is often times hard to do it in other ways. Art we can control, we can create and make our worlds.

I hope you do not stop producing your art, because that is a big part who you are. I hope your art along with the help you are seeking is the therapy you need. Everyone here knows you as the updinger king…you give a little happiness to each and every one of us almost daily.

I don’t know what else to say other than I hope the best for you, I hope you get all the help you need and find that you have a lot to give to this world.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:08:53pm

re: #223 Kragar

Anything not specifically Evangelical Protestant Christianity is, by default, Satanic.

Any unauthorized, out-of-channnels source of power (even if fictional) must be opposed.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:09:16pm

re: #216 Nyet

+1 for Ghost.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if “Square Hammer” got nominated for ‘Video of the Year’ somewhere. It’s actually quite good - the students I’ve shown it to all loved it, even those who really don’t like metal/hard rock. It’s in heavy rotation here on a Czech music video network.

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:09:22pm

This is what I was singing coming out of the voting place today. Can’t even bring me down now…

James Brown - I feel good Live (1966)

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:10:53pm

re: #222 Jebediah, RBG

POOZndmHke2LFfvbXoQyiixQM5e+JxgrXp6K6Z/C/6C+AUS2TXw1gBy/OQIBMWDoHbACOv/+Qp8VgHBZZ8scd8OI+L7q5IhDhfwpS+DXbJyozyBA/4lmlg==

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:12:08pm

re: #206 gocart mozart

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Curt Schilling putting ‘celebrities’ in quotes and talking about people not understanding things. Alrighty then.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:12:43pm

Yeah…I have no idea what this means.

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plansbandc  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:14:02pm

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

Now I must listen to more Ghost.

<3

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:15:33pm

re: #215 Nyet

I don’t get where this Satanism stuff comes from. Abramovic is not a Satanist.

That’s OK, Hannity isn’t much of a journalist.

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petesh  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:16:22pm

re: #145 A wild WITHAK appeared!

It’s only one letter away from the usual.

Nonsense, it’s 18.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:16:58pm
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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:17:16pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

If I read it right, I see you say you are an artist. As an artist I can certainly understand a bit of where you are coming from, I sometimes think artists all share similar traits and one of the biggest is we can be so hard on ourselves because we are searching to find life’s answers and feel emotions so much in that search. That is why we communicate through art, because it is often times hard to do it in other ways. Art we can control, we can create and make our worlds.

I saw this the other day.

Research finds musicians three times more likely to suffer depression

In what is being described as the largest survey of its kind in the world, Help Musicians UK has found alarming rates of depression and other mental health problems among musicians.

The organisation surveyed over 2,200 musicians in the study. 65 percent admitted to having struggled with depression, while 71 percent said they had experienced anxiety or panic attacks at one time. These levels suggest musicians are around three times more likely to suffer from depression than the population at large.

Art does not come without a price.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:17:48pm

re: #202 Decatur Deb

If Hillary were a witch, Weiner’s wiener would be a turnip.

In the Harry Potter universe, I’m convinced that the scariest place there has nothing to do with Goldsmith. The scariest place is actually the Clinic For Social Maladies, if you think about it. :O

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:17:48pm

re: #231 MsJ

Yeah…I have no idea what this means.

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Wingnuts saw Democrats collecting a lot of ballots and delivering them in bulk, and assumed they could get away with screaming ‘FRAUD! Ballot stuffing!’ They didn’t get away with it.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:18:24pm

re: #232 plansbandc

Now I must listen to more Ghost.

<3

Here’s a vid of them performing “Square Hammer” live. They’re very good. Song starts at 1:25.

Ghost - Square Hammer “Live” Multicam (Awesome).(HD)

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:19:58pm

re: #98 SteelPH

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Belafon  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:20:27pm

re: #222 Jebediah, RBG

You might have found a sequence of text that breaks Charles’ parser. If you were in the debugging spirit, you could divide the private message into chunks and see where it breaks. Since I don’t know his parser, and I’m not going to read your comment, I don’t know for sure.

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plansbandc  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:20:50pm

re: #239 Dr Lizardo

They remind me a bit of Blue Oyster Cult.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:21:49pm

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

AAARGH

Thank you!

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:22:14pm

re: #232 plansbandc

Now you are one of Us! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ghost B.C. - Year Zero (Censored)

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:23:27pm

re: #244 Nyet

(The uncensored version is at Vimeo ;)

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:24:25pm

Heh, an idea: send this link to the wingnuts outraged about “Satanism”.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:25:43pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

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Wingnuts saw Democrats collecting a lot of ballots and delivering them in bulk, and assumed they could get away with screaming ‘FRAUD! Ballot stuffing!’ They didn’t get away with it.

Thank you so much! I couldn’t make heads nor tails out of what that guy tweeted.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:27:18pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:28:54pm

re: #248 MsJ

Open mouth, the leak is coming.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:29:33pm

re: #248 MsJ

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“America’s mayor”

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:30:23pm

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

Did you show them Cirice which won a Grammy?

Ghost - Cirice (Official Music Video)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:30:42pm

Trump even outsources his data collecting.

Meanwhile. Hillary hires someone in-house.

nbcnews.com

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:31:18pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:31:40pm

re: #247 MsJ

Thank you so much! I couldn’t make heads nor tails out of what that guy tweeted.

There’s another tweet with another link…to that photo. No article. I think there’s confusion all the way around, just the way some people like it.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:31:50pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:32:29pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:33:12pm

re: #241 Belafon

Maybe, but I think VB spotted the problem - it maybe wasn’t the missing slash at the end tag - which I fixed - but that I added his username to the end tag which is incorrect.
It is no biggie - I realized there’s nothing in there that would bother me if people read it - but I did make it private just because it was a little longish. I don’t want to strain anyone’s scrolling finger!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:34:18pm

BOOM

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:34:58pm

re: #251 Nyet

Did you show them Cirice which won a Grammy?

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Yes, I did. They enjoyed that too, but they seemed to like “Square Hammer” more, perhaps because it sounds more radio friendly. The general consensus is that their theatricality is greatly appreciated; genuine entertainers.

Seeing as “Square Hammer” was the one original song on the Popestar EP, I’m wondering if it’s a hint of the musical direction they’ll be taking with their next album, which is due out next year.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:35:10pm
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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:36:14pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:36:21pm

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

BOOM

[Rudy Giuliani confirms the FBI leaked information to the Trump campaign]

Bringing America together—-now everybody wants him to shut up.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:37:25pm

re: #260 Kragar

Of course. RWNJs reject all aspects of the enlightenment, so their belief in witchcraft, young earth creationism, Noah’s Ark, literal Biblical inerrancy etc. is a package deal.

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Belafon  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:39:21pm

I’m going to start calling John Podesta Peppermint Butler, one of the most frightening people in Ooo.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:40:17pm

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

They worked with a producer who worked with Britney Spears and Madonna. I like the “poppy” direction though. They’re sort of “dark ABBA” :D

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:41:43pm

re: #256 gocart mozart

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Ann Coulter, Jr drunk again.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:44:14pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:44:16pm

re: #264 Belafon

Yeah, that guy is pretty fucking scary… “Tell Death I said hey!”

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:46:12pm

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

Trump admits this rigging of the election on his behalf every time he whines about the election being rigged against him and the media being unfair to him.

As always, Trump is projecting.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:47:15pm
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scottslemmons  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:48:24pm

So can I make up my own Podesta (or Trump or Pence or Laura Ingraham) emails? I’ve got a shitload of fonts on my computer — how hard could it be to make up crazy shit about wingnuts?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:49:11pm

re: #270 gocart mozart

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“I also let the Charles and David Koch stick their hand up my ass.@

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:49:24pm

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

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Whoa!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:49:54pm

re: #265 Nyet

They worked with a producer who worked with Britney Spears and Madonna. I like the “poppy” direction though. They’re sort of “dark ABBA” :D

If “Square Hammer” is a hint of what’s to come, I think they’ll enjoy even more success than they already have.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:51:44pm

...

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:52:19pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:52:27pm
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austin_blue  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:52:49pm

Dammit.

The NYPD officer shot earlier today in the Bronx has died. Shooter also killed.

Link: nbcnewyork.com

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:53:29pm

well screw that…

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:54:22pm

Nice tweet.

She’s wiping her tear with big bills.

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Jenner7  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:55:39pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:55:44pm

Report this recidivist==> @ReturnofRV

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:55:58pm

re: #200 Timothy Watson

The more insane the wingnuts get, the more comfortable I feel about the election. I was a little down due some of the recent polls, but the levity from these nuts is helping.

If anything, they sure are making the divide between crazy wingnut and sane America wider and much more easy to recognize.

I sure hope that recognition is becoming more and more aware quickly to those that have not voted.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:56:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:56:37pm

re: #281 Jenner7

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:57:12pm
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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:57:51pm

interesting in this fake letter that U.S. Senator Tom Carper did not originate or send……

new coverage keeps quoting the actual message in the fake letter!

do they not get the utter insanity of that?

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:58:10pm

re: #286 gocart mozart

Who watches the watchers?

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:59:15pm

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

What should I report him as?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 1:59:30pm

re: #284 gocart mozart

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Reagan’s admin was terribly corrupt.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:00:04pm

re: #280 wrenchwench

Nice tweet.

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She’s wiping her tear with big bills.

proof that money is not fungible, can be segregated and earmarked easily /s

(see hyde amendment, planned parenthood, etc.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:00:42pm

re: #289 Nyet

What should I report him as?

That is another account of the neo-nazi Ricky Vaughn

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:00:59pm

re: #215 Nyet

I don’t get where this Satanism stuff comes from. Abramovic is not a Satanist.

It doesn’t have to come from anywhere. All they need is a hint.

It’s almost like the wingnutters have all been put in a hypnotic trance by Fox news and the crazy web media like Jones and Breitbart. Once in the trance they receive messages they have been told are always true and then they just act on it. Facts, connections? No need.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:01:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:01:03pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:01:41pm

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

That is another account of the neo-nazi Ricky Vaughn

I knew it. I’m none the wiser.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:02:54pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:02:55pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:03:46pm
I’m not interested in this account
They are posting spam
Their account may be hacked
They’re being abusive or harmful

I don’t see the option “report an account of Ricky Vaughn” ;)

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:04:21pm

re: #299 Nyet

I don’t see the option “report an account of Ricky Vaughn” ;)

“Abusive or harmful”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:04:44pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:04:51pm

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

POTUS defends the free speech rights of a Trump supporter and SMOTI says he “loses it” LOL

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Well, as much crazy is being unleashed today it sure seems all the little wingnut soldiers got their marching orders to concoct and push as much of this crap as they can as coordinated as they can.

Gonna be a long tough weekend.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:05:52pm

re: #281 Jenner7

It was probably the FBI that planted the damn bugs.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:06:06pm

re: #300 The Vicious Babushka

Well, I guess that’s the closest thing. I’ll try.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:06:16pm

re: #301 FormerDirtDart

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Ooooh!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:06:33pm

not a word about Christie, though…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:06:56pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

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not a word about Christie, though…

Lol sure.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:07:13pm

re: #304 Nyet

Nah, doesn’t work, next they ask “How is @ReturnofRV being abusive or harmful?”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:07:35pm

re: #301 FormerDirtDart

I would love see numbers for Texas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:07:39pm

nothing but white people there (Wilmington, Ohio)

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:08:16pm

re: #230 BeachDem

Curt Schilling putting ‘celebrities’ in quotes and talking about people not understanding things. Alrighty then.

Curt is getting more and more nuts by the day. Dude is going to go off the deep end, you can almost see it coming.

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Belafon  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:08:21pm

re: #308 Nyet

Is it a choice, or can you put in text? If the latter, tell them it’s an account of someone banned.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:09:21pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:09:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:10:11pm

re: #313 FormerDirtDart

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Awesome.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:10:41pm

re: #312 Belafon

I thought I’d get a text option. Didn’t find one. Don’t want to do a thing that might backfire on me.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:11:29pm

re: #98 SteelPH

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:11:53pm

re: #312 Belafon

Is it a choice, or can you put in text? If the latter, tell them it’s an account of someone banned.

You can choose up to 5 examples of abusive Tweets. There is at least one of @returnofRV gloating that he has returned after being banned (if it hasn’t already been deleted)

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:12:42pm

re: #316 Nyet

I thought I’d get a text option. Didn’t find one. Don’t want to do a thing that might backfire on me.

I reported him for ‘targeted harassment’ of ‘someone else’. I included the gloating one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:13:18pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Awesome.

Not necessarily. The DOJ might be worse than FBI.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:13:28pm

re: #319 wrenchwench

OK I’ll try again.

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Brian J.  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:13:30pm

re: #301 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:13:41pm

@HillaryClinton
“I sorta get away with things like that.” —Donald Trump, on bursting into Miss Universe pageant dressing rooms

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nines09  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:14:53pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump would step on his fingers as Christie tried to climb out of that sewer.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:15:10pm

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

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Double secret classified!

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Brian J.  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:15:16pm

re: #270 gocart mozart

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Given the number of people he’s thrown onto unemployment lines in his career, do you blame him?

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:15:22pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:16:36pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:17:20pm
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Brian J.  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:17:47pm

Even Nate Yttrium’s employees have had enough of his clickbaitery:

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:18:27pm

re: #236 makeitstop

I saw this the other day.

Research finds musicians three times more likely to suffer depression

Art does not come without a price.

I know the study mentions musicians. Hopefully this study or others also recognize this is most likely the case with ALL artists. Music, dance, fine artists like painters illustrators, print makers, etc., writers. ALL. It comes from sensitivity that may be just a little too intense, a little too observant, a little too introspective, a little too questioning.

I have lived almost my entire life surrounded by artists of all kinds. I’ve seen a lot of depression. It does not help that too many times our society sees artists as weird and useless. Artists actually keep the normal sane! Also as we often times see through a Jules Verne or a George Orwell the artists many times predict the future or something that is going to happen. Society needs artists. Republicans/Conservatives a;ways want to shut artists up for that very reason.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:19:10pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:19:50pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:20:42pm

re: #249 Nyet

Open mouth, the leak is coming.

Someone needs to plug that hole…in his fucking head. Getting real sick of Gooey Rudy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:21:38pm

pathetic

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Teukka  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:21:51pm

re: #332 FormerDirtDart

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What the everloving fuck!?

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:21:59pm

re: #332 FormerDirtDart

There’s just no bottom with any of this shit. Trump is an abomination. His campaign surrogates are all horrible. Trump voters are deplorable barbarians.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:23:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:23:20pm
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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:24:25pm

Mental health break! Even armadillos have their favorite toys:

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:25:24pm

Well, goodnight, Lizards. Only a few more days of this madness known as Election 2016 left.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:25:43pm

For wrenchwench:

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:26:43pm

re: #340 CuriousLurker

Mental health break! Even armadillos have their favorite toys:

Is it a pig or a bear?

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Thanos  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:28:10pm

We laugh, we cry, we are outraged by the latest satanic nonsense, but the reality is that the “Satanic Hillary” meme will run for all 8 years of both her terms.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:30:00pm

re: #343 FormerDirtDart

Is it a pig or a bear?

It’s Al Gore.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:30:51pm

re: #343 FormerDirtDart

Is it a pig or a bear?

I’m not sure, but I think it’s a bear. My favorite part was at the very end when the armadillo sorta sneaks up behind it on tip-toes (tip-claws?) and *pounces* LOL.

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:34:22pm

re: #332 FormerDirtDart

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Kellyanne seems to be helping Donald lose the female vote. Pretty strange thinking from someone that is supposed to help the campaign.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:34:34pm

re: #346 CuriousLurker

I’m not sure, but I think it’s a bear. My favorite part was at the very end when the armadillo sorta sneaks up behind it on tip-toes (tip-claws?) and *pounces* LOL.

I’ve never seen a live one before…only those on the side of the road.

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:34:43pm

re: #311 ObserverArt

Curt is getting more and more nuts by the day. Dude is going to go off the deep end, you can almost see it coming.

I think that ship has already sailed.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:36:52pm

re: #348 MsJ

I’ve never seen a live one before…only those on the side of the road.

They’re pretty fearsome looking, but fairly shy (you wanna steer clear of their claws though). We used to see them all the time in TX—they showed up in our backyard more than once when I was a kid. Raccoons & skunks too.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:37:46pm
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scottslemmons  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:39:41pm

re: #351 FormerDirtDart

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Well, someone learned the lessons of the Bush Terror Alerts…

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plansbandc  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:39:56pm

re: #350 CuriousLurker

My dude says they are super fast. He and his buddies tried to catch one once. No way.

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:40:45pm

re: #346 CuriousLurker

I’m not sure, but I think it’s a bear. My favorite part was at the very end when the armadillo sorta sneaks up behind it on tip-toes (tip-claws?) and *pounces* LOL.

I like how it runs around in circular movements and then grabs the toy and balls up.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:41:22pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:42:30pm

re: #349 BeachDem

I think that ship has already sailed.

I don’t think Shilling has stopped probing the depths he is capable of. I’m thinking we may be reading about Curt in the news. Not in a good way.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:42:48pm

re: #344 Thanos

We laugh, we cry, we are outraged by the latest satanic nonsense, but the reality is that the “Satanic Hillary” meme will run for all 8 years of both her terms.

That works for me. Republicans baying at the moon in frustration vs. POTUS Hillary Clinton is infinitely better than any Republican (especially Trump) in the White House.

The GOP has been totally useless on policy issue for years now, and is compounding its errors by running the willfully delusional as candidates for office.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:43:28pm

re: #332 FormerDirtDart

Wow, what an asshole.

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:44:40pm

re: #351 FormerDirtDart

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Anyone think this Texas Terror is bullshit or am I getting too cynical? Abbott seems capable of scaring people and making them think they need someone tough on terrorism like Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:46:04pm

re: #360 ObserverArt

Maybe its a ploy to scare Dems away from voting?

Half /

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stpaulbear  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:46:12pm

re: #360 ObserverArt

Anyone think this Texas Terror is bullshit or am I getting too cynical? Abbott seems capable of scaring people and making them think they need someone tough on terrorism like Trump.

I’d say that the chances of right wing terrorism are pretty high for the next week or so…

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BadgerB  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:46:43pm

re: #236 makeitstop

Art does not come without a price.

I really wanted to let this go but it cut a little too close to home. I’m not an artist, I’m a computer programmer, but I’ve had to learn to manage at least low level recurring depression since high-school.

I really don’t think its healthy to accept the idea that “Art does not come without a price” because a price is something you must pay. I’d much rather hear people say “Art does not come without a warning label.” Depression is something to be aware of, not surrender to.

I KNOW things can get hard, and lonely, and so very very dark when your own mind is the thing dragging you down, but there are things we can do to help each other and the first challenge is always to get the person to seek the help out. Accepting it as something unavoidable or a ‘part of the package’ undermines that.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:46:48pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:48:10pm

Reuters - U.S. authorities warn of al Qaeda threat to election

Federal officials have warned authorities in New York City, Texas and Virginia about an unspecific threat of attacks by al Qaeda militants around Election Day, putting local law enforcement on alert days before the vote, officials said on Friday.

A U.S. government source in Washington said some federal agencies sent bulletins to local and state officials flagging the information but that the threat was relatively low level.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:49:03pm

If the FBI is the one putting out the alerts I am not sure I trust this.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:51:36pm

re: #353 plansbandc

My dude says they are super fast. He and his buddies tried to catch one once. No way.

Heh, yeah, they don’t look like they’re built for speed, but they can move like greased lightning when they feel the need. Here’s one running—dad tries to sneak up on it and it starts running around 1:20, hides in bushes, then bolts again around 2:50 and son tries to catch it. Neither one of them even came close once it started running.

Youtube Video

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:52:22pm

re: #236 makeitstop

I saw this the other day.

Research finds musicians three times more likely to suffer depression

Art does not come without a price.

I can’t really call myself a musician, but I need to play the guitar almost daily. I put it away when I got married because I thought it was a little childish to be strumming chords and riffing on my electric guitar when I should be doing the manly stuff of pretending to get things done. But I let pressures overwhelm me and yes I slipped into depression. I got out of the lowest points through a combination of medicine and group therapy. I haven’t returned there, but I know it can happen. So I don’t apologize to the people who never cared anyway (my wife and children) that I make a little time to play music and a little time to take a walk or go for a run. I understand that I’m lucky, that my personal therapies are not enough for some people, but I do believe that I got better through (oh no, I’m quoting a Bill Murray movie that made fun of the whole idea) “baby steps.”

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:52:43pm

re: #365 FormerDirtDart

Reuters - U.S. authorities warn of al Qaeda threat to election

How active is al Qaeda these days???

Or, is this a signal that it is a scare tactic because the name resonates.

Tuesday cannot come fast enough.

Back later after Friday night jam session. I have a feeling there is going to be a ton to catch up on late tonight.

Yeesh…it’s getting deep.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:54:36pm

re: #361 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe its a ploy to scare Dems away from voting?

Half /

Except republicans are the far bigger pussies.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:55:13pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:55:45pm

re: #98 SteelPH

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:56:51pm

re: #368 Barefoot Grin

I can’t really call myself a musician, but I need to play the guitar almost daily.

That’s me, except in my case change it to “play” - but I am (SLOWLY!!) getting a little better at it.

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TedStriker  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:57:37pm

re: #329 gocart mozart

Hey, even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometime.

Welcome aboard, Tim…

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 2:57:55pm

re: #360 ObserverArt

Anyone think this Texas Terror is bullshit or am I getting too cynical? Abbott seems capable of scaring people and making them think they need someone tough on terrorism like Trump.

The first reply on that one really pissed off the wingnuts, heh:

TBH, I can’t think of any high-value targets in TX that they’d be interested in hitting, except maybe military bases—lots of those there.

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gocart mozart  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:00:00pm
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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:00:14pm

re: #367 CuriousLurker

Oh, I guess it would be helpful if I actually included the link to the video, huh?

It’s been added now, please refresh the comment.

It’s been a long, long week. *sigh*

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:00:21pm

re: #374 TedStriker

Hey, even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometime.

Welcome aboard, Tim…

Not exactly a difficult thing nowadays. /

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:00:34pm

re: #366 Eclectic Cyborg

If the FBI is the one putting out the alerts I am not sure I trust this.

It makes sense to distrust the FBI. On the other hand, I’m sure AlQaida would prefer Trump over Clinton, since Trump’s incompetence would seem likely to save AlQaida lives and advance their goals if he were President.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:04:10pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:05:02pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

pathetic

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“name it after me” is stale. He said that when I saw him in summer of ‘15.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:10:19pm

re: #375 CuriousLurker

The first reply on that one really pissed off the wingnuts, heh:

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TBH, I can’t think of any high-value targets in TX that they’d be interested in hitting, except maybe military bases—lots of those there.

Remember the Alamo.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:11:35pm

re: #364 gocart mozart

And every comment is completely batshit insane.

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whitebeach  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:12:26pm

re: #350 CuriousLurker

They’re pretty fearsome looking, but fairly shy (you wanna steer clear of their claws though). We used to see them all the time in TX—they showed up in our backyard more than once when I was a kid. Raccoons & skunks too.

They look like small-scale models from the Jurassic, but they’re harmless, except for digging in flower beds to get their grub. Really odd fact: They’re the only known creatures besides humans who can contract leprosy, and have therefore been used in research on that disease.

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whitebeach  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:15:10pm

re: #360 ObserverArt

Anyone think this Texas Terror is bullshit or am I getting too cynical?

I think it’s armadillo shit.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:16:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:17:26pm

A couple of weeks ago I noticed that both Gateway Pundit and Chuck C. Johnson’s horrible racist blog were listed in Google News.

They’ve both been removed now. So someone at Google must have actually looked at the reeking garbage they publish and noticed that it’s about as far from “news” as it’s possible to get.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:18:38pm

in Wilmington, Ohio:

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:19:11pm
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Jay C  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:19:27pm

re: #382 Decatur Deb

Remember the Alamo.

Yeah, but that “Handful of guys vs. thousands of trained soldiers” thing really only works when the former are defending, not attacking. And even then (as military history shows), usually not very well.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:20:03pm
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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:20:07pm

re: #360 ObserverArt

Anyone think this Texas Terror is bullshit or am I getting too cynical? Abbott seems capable of scaring people and making them think they need someone tough on terrorism like Trump.

CBS News has learned about a potential terror threat for the day before the election. Sources told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton that U.S. intelligence has alerted joint terrorism task forces that al Qaeda could be planning attacks in three states for Monday. It is believed New York, Texas and Virginia are all possible targets, though no specific locations are mentioned.</

cbsnews.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:20:12pm

The city of Biloxi MS sets a new record high today of 87. Previous record was 83. Normal temp for this area this time of year is 72.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:20:57pm

assholes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:21:45pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

“How dare you not let us bully people!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:22:06pm

re: #376 gocart mozart

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How’d the Sears Tower get to Philadelphia?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:23:19pm

re: #390 Jay C

Yeah, but that “Handful of guys vs. thousands of trained soldiers” thing really only works when the former are defending, not attacking. And even then (as military history shows), usually not very well.

Rode a carriage all around the Alamo while attending a Texas A&M radiological protection class. The guy driving the horse knew more about physics than I did.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:23:39pm

re: #362 stpaulbear

I’d say that the chances of right wing terrorism are pretty high for the next week or soeight years or so…

FTFY.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:25:11pm

Religion - how does it work?

San Diego Catholic church says devil works through Hillary Clinton

A Roman Catholic church in San Diego told its parishioners the devil works through politicians like Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and warned that voting for Democrats is a “mortal sin,” according to local media and the church’s website.

The Immaculate Conception Catholic Church in the neighborhood of Old Town made the statements in a weekly leaflet given to churchgoers, a copy of which remains on the church’s website. The letter rails against abortion and constraints on tax-exempt organizations from certain political activity, and blames elected officials for allowing U.S. society to be “enslaved” to sin.

“Satan has deceived many Christians to convert to worldly values from Christian ones,” the Oct. 30 bulletin reads. “The devil does this through the tactics outlined by Saul Alinsky with the outcome as Hillary Clinton has stated, ‘And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed,’ to draw us away from God’s teachings.” (ic-sandiego.org)

[…]

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:25:12pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:25:15pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:25:32pm

Evening Lizardim. Ugh, what a week. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:27:00pm

re: #402 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. Ugh, what a week. How go things among the lizardfolk?

We’re busy devouring matzos dishes with blood. Well, at least according to the Trumpkins.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:27:54pm

re: #382 Decatur Deb

Remember the Alamo.

Yeah, that didn’t turn out so good for the Texans, as I’m sure you know (prolly why you said it like that, heh).

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:28:24pm

Baked-in: opinions of peoples:

Majority of voters think Clinton acted illegally, new poll finds

A majority of voters believe Hillary Clinton has done something illegal, according to a new McClatchy-Marist Poll days before the presidential election.

A total of 83 percent of likely voters believe that Clinton did something wrong - 51 percent saying she did something illegal and 32 percent saying she something unethical but not illegal. Just 14 percent said she’s done nothing wrong.

By comparison, 79 percent think Donald Trump did something wrong, though not nearly as many think he did something illegal. Just 26 percent think he’s done something illegal, while 53 percent think he’s dome something unethical but not illegal. Just 17 percent think he’s done nothing wrong.

[…]

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:28:29pm

re: #401 Nyet

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Don’t tell Sean what’s in Black Pudding.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:29:22pm

re: #403 Nyet

We’re busy devouring matzos dishes with blood. Well, at least according to the Trumpkins.

Whoopsy. Guess I need to start under-cooking my steak.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:29:30pm

re: #405 freetoken

Baked-in: opinions of peoples:

Majority of voters think Clinton acted illegally, new poll finds

“Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that.”

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:30:18pm

re: #406 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t tell Sean what’s in Black Pudding the communion chalice.

Liturgicized that fer ya.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:30:23pm

re: #406 Blind Frog Belly White

When I was in Munich, I had to order Himmel un Ääd two times, so good it was.
Little did I know I was engaging in a Satanic ritual!

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:31:39pm

re: #383 MsJ

And every comment is completely batshit insane.

It’s basically blood libel, just turned against democrats in general instead of Jews. It’s the same shit they do with Muslims and that has worked out pretty well for them, so why not widen the scope?

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:32:06pm

Looks like Ohio and Iowa may be truly lost? Maybe even Florida?

Election Update: National Polls Show Clinton’s Lead Stabilizing — State Polls, Not So Much

We’re a couple of days removed from the point when almost every poll showed Hillary Clinton on a downward trajectory. Instead, polls over the past 24 hours have been more equivocal. National polls tend to suggest that Donald Trump’s momentum has halted, and that Clinton may even be regaining ground. But Trump is getting his share of good results in state polls, which both show competitive races in some of Clinton’s “firewall” states and favorable trend lines for Trump.

[…]

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mmmirele  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:32:51pm

Boyfriend just called from an early voting place in Tempe, Arizona. He says there’s a three hour wait to vote. I asked him what he was going to do. He said, “Do you think it’s going to be better on Tuesday? Of course I’m staying to vote.”

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:33:22pm

re: #384 whitebeach

They look like small-scale models from the Jurassic, but they’re harmless, except for digging in flower beds to get their grub. Really odd fact: They’re the only known creatures besides humans who can contract leprosy, and have therefore been used in research on that disease.

Oh gosh, yeah—I’d totally forgotten about the leprosy thing!

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:34:13pm

re: #413 mmmirele

Lots of Drumpfskind voters?

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:34:42pm

re: #409 Decatur Deb

Too good to pass up.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:35:28pm

re: #412 freetoken

Someone said in the past that the state polls are a lagging indicator.

But, I think Ohio and Iowa are lost. Florida seems to look good.

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danarchy  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:36:02pm

re: #413 mmmirele

Boyfriend just called from an early voting place in Tempe, Arizona. He says there’s a three hour wait to vote. I asked him what he was going to do. He said, “Do you think it’s going to be better on Tuesday? Of course I’m staying to vote.”

One of the nice things about living in a small town in the suburbs. I have never had to wait in line to vote.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:36:16pm

re: #412 freetoken

Looks like Ohio and Iowa may be truly lost? Maybe even Florida?

Election Update: National Polls Show Clinton’s Lead Stabilizing — State Polls, Not So Much

Starting to think Nate ought to be behind spoiler tags.

This is actually somewhat at odds with what everyone else has been saying - that there was a dip last weekend/early in the week, but that’s largely disappeared (response bias?), and things actually seem to be moving Clinton-ward.

AND Nate’s the one who repeatedly says states do the same thing as the national numbers, but more slowly. So after yesterdays run of scary pols in NH, PPP today has HRC+6.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:36:44pm

re: #389 Nyet

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Oh gawd. Can you imagine if the MSM was covering this as a serious topic. I just…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:37:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:38:05pm

re: #422 Charles Johnson

It’s a constant parade of raving right wing idiots on Twitter today, babbling about satanic rituals. What century is this, again?

You mean what ACTUAL century? Or which one do they think it is?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:38:24pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:38:42pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:40:03pm

re: #413 mmmirele

Mail-in balloting is da shizz! Oregon, Washington, and Colorado have all mail-in ballots. They also all have fully legal cannabis. Coincidence?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:40:21pm

re: #425 Nyet

not art.

They’re wrong. The Catholic liturgy has long been described as “The Drama of the Mass”.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:40:32pm

re: #420 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, the PEC histogram of simulation results is changing shape:

Image: EV_histogram_today.png

Today there is a tail into the Drumpfskind-wins territory. That wasn’t there a few days ago. And the right side, the Clinton-wins side, is getting all squished up, meaning less likelihood of a Clinton landslide.

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TedStriker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:41:06pm

re: #73 MsJ

I read some of them.

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No Depression  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:41:18pm

I’m the most afraid in the days before an election I’ve ever been. I’m still confident Hillary’s gonna win, but it’s deeply unsettling how close things are looking right now.

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:41:40pm

Trump must be really desperate. He’s bringing Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods out to stump for him this weekend…in Michigan.

Oh, and the creepiest of the the creepy Trump spawn has been there today—of course, one stop at a gun range.

detroitnews.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:41:49pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:42:00pm

re: #430 No Depression

I’m the most afraid in the days before an election I’ve ever been. I’m still confident Hillary’s gonna win, but it’s deeply unsettling how close things are looking right now.

The polls have improved today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:42:03pm

Not gonna lie, I will be pretty pissed if Trump wins Florida.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:42:13pm

Meanwhile, I think the stress of the election is giving me ocular migraines. You know how ice forms on the inside of your windows in the winter? Kinda jaggy lines and like that? Okay, imagine a patch of that in your field of vision, but also kinda flashing.

First time I got one, it scared the shit outta me. I thought I must be having a stroke, so I contrived a reason to go talk to one of my minions, figuring if I were speaking in gibberish, she’d let me know.

Then I looked up ‘optical disturbance’ and there it was, perfectly described, right down to how it expands, moves around a bit, and ends within 30 minutes of starting.

And not to worry about it.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:42:31pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg i just can’t

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:43:36pm

re: #396 Blind Frog Belly White

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How’d the Sears Tower get to Philadelphia?

And why are they all wearing Chicago Cubs colors & insignias?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:43:39pm

re: #431 BeachDem

Trump must be really desperate. He’s bringing Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods out to stump for him this weekend…in Michigan.

Oh, and the creepiest of the the creepy Trump spawn has been there today—of course, one stop at a gun range.

detroitnews.com

When you said that, I actually wondered if he had called upon the arcane powers of Michele Bachmann (R-Mars). I had to look at the link to see it was Palin.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:43:57pm

re: #98 SteelPH

*hugs*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:44:34pm

re: #437 CuriousLurker

And why are they all wearing Chicago Cubs colors & insignias?

See?!? Trump’s gonna win ILLINOIS!!!

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:44:39pm

re: #433 Nyet

The polls have improved today.

I think the FBI kerfluffle was perfectly timed as a way to freak us all out and keep the horse race narrative alive until Tuesday.

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TedStriker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:46:03pm

re: #117 GlutenFreeJesus

Next thing you know, Hillary will be The Butcher of Snipes.

Hey, Wesley may have been a tax cheat, but he’s a decent actor and doesn’t deserve to die…

///

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:46:44pm

re: #411 CuriousLurker

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451_Montag  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:46:44pm

re: #433 Nyet

The polls have improved today.

And I think they will continue to. Now is about the time they start to get clearer as the pollsters vie for the most accurate title. Was it 2008 when Rasmussen was the ‘most’ accurate, due to their final poll being spot on? Completely ignoring their eleventy million bs ones before.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:47:44pm

re: #426 teleskiguy

Mail-in balloting is da shizz! Oregon, Washington, and Colorado have all mail-in ballots. They also all have fully legal cannabis. Coincidence?

sorry,. what was the question?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:48:02pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:48:10pm

re: #88 Kragar

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At this point the Trump campaign and their loyal footsoldiers are throwing just about every insane story imaginable out there to see if FoxNews and other rightwing media sources will pick it up, no matter how easily disproved.

What I’ve seen in the last 24 hours alone:

Hillary Clinton due to be subject of indictment and FBI raids conducted on campaign offices as well as Clinton Foundation offices.
John Podesta ran a child prostitution ring while acting as White House counselor
Hillary Clinton actively engaged in Satanic rituals while Secretary of State

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:48:24pm

re: #441 thedopefishlives

I think the FBI kerfluffle was perfectly timed as a way to freak us all out and keep the horse race narrative alive until Tuesday.

I’m still waiting for Rick Wilson’s promised bombshell. WAY worse than the Access Hollywood tape. Claims he doesn’t have it, but the media have been given the leads.

Personally, I think it smells like the Whitey Tape.

WRT the FBI thing, apparently Giuliani is ferociously backpedaling on his morning admission that active FBI agents were leaking info to the Trump campaign.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:49:29pm

re: #445 dangerman

sorry,. what was the question?

You ever seen the back of a 20 dollar bill, ON WEED?!?
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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:49:52pm

I’m going to say this once and be done with it: Everyone, CALM THE FUCK DOWN. We got this. No, I’m not saying we should just assume victory is in the bag, but we shouldn’t be worrying or stressing about “what if”. What if Trump wins? We’ll deal with that if it happens, that’s what. Will it be a disaster? Probably. Will we survive it? Almost certainly. Will it be pleasant? Not likely, but we’ll come back the stronger for it, and the record books will show that Trump was the worst President ever and all of his actions were completely undone by the time he left office. In the meantime, I hold my head high and sleep well at night (well, for the sleep I get, anyway), confident that America just won’t fuck this up just yet.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:50:23pm

re: #448 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, the smell is not good.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:51:38pm

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Small wonder she kept her cool so well. That’s pretty much exactly what we said she should do for debate prep.

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gwangung  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:51:39pm

re: #448 Blind Frog Belly White

WRT the FBI thing, apparently Giuliani is ferociously backpedaling on his morning admission that active FBI agents were leaking info to the Trump campaign.

Apparently it took that long until he figured out that he could get into some REAL hot water on this…

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No Depression  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:51:55pm

re: #433 Nyet

The polls have improved today.

That’s good. To be honest, I am a bit anxiety-prone, so catastrophic visions of a Trump victory have been running through my head over the last few days as the election draws near.Just gotta keep telling myself that the people disgusted by Trump outnumber his supporters.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:52:05pm

re: #453 gwangung

Apparently it took that long until he figured out that he could get into some REAL hot water on this…

Not the sharpest tool in the shed, that one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:52:58pm

re: #453 gwangung

Apparently it took that long until he figured out that he could get into some REAL hot water on this…

He’s really not very smart, that guy. And corrupt as all get out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:53:25pm

re: #455 thedopefishlives

re: #456 Blind Frog Belly White

Funny how close our phrasing is.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:54:15pm

re: #454 No Depression

That’s good. To be honest, I am a bit anxiety-prone, so catastrophic visions of a Trump victory have been running through my head over the last few days as the election draws near.Just gotta keep telling myself that the people disgusted by Trump outnumber his supporters.

I’m pretty calm about the victory. What galls me is how many garbage humans are out there.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:54:28pm

re: #443 Nyet

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Learn something new every day—I didn’t know that.

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:54:46pm

re: #363 BadgerB

I really wanted to let this go but it cut a little too close to home. I’m not an artist, I’m a computer programmer, but I’ve had to learn to manage at least low level recurring depression since high-school.

I really don’t think its healthy to accept the idea that “Art does not come without a price” because a price is something you must pay. I’d much rather hear people say “Art does not come without a warning label.” Depression is something to be aware of, not surrender to.

I KNOW things can get hard, and lonely, and so very very dark when your own mind is the thing dragging you down, but there are things we can do to help each other and the first challenge is always to get the person to seek the help out. Accepting it as something unavoidable or a ‘part of the package’ undermines that.

Good points, all.

I said what I said because I am a musician, and I too fight depression. Someone once told me that you write your best songs when you feel the worst, and that’s a fair assessment as far as my experience goes.

I didn’t mean in any way to minimize the problem, and I encourage everyone who is fighting depression to get help. I did and it has helped immensely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:55:00pm
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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:55:44pm
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:55:49pm

re: #396 Blind Frog Belly White

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How’d the Sears Tower get to Philadelphia?

Satanic witchcraft?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:56:09pm

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So little stamina.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:56:24pm

re: #450 thedopefishlives

I’m going to say this once and be done with it: Everyone, CALM THE FUCK DOWN. We got this. No, I’m not saying we should just assume victory is in the bag, but we shouldn’t be worrying or stressing about “what if”. What if Trump wins? We’ll deal with that if it happens, that’s what. Will it be a disaster? Probably. Will we survive it? Almost certainly. Will it be pleasant? Not likely, but we’ll come back the stronger for it, and the record books will show that Trump was the worst President ever and all of his actions were completely undone by the time he left office. In the meantime, I hold my head high and sleep well at night (well, for the sleep I get, anyway), confident that America just won’t fuck this up just yet.

Agree.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:57:55pm
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Interesting Times  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:58:07pm

Fun with multicolored squiggly lines:

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piratedan  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:58:53pm

re: #463 Eventual Carrion

yeah, the cat is finally out of the bag, we paint the sign of the beast on every door with a Trump sign in the front yard and Yog-Sluggoth’s minions will appear and drag them screaming into the pits, where they’ll be forced to watch Good Times, The Jeffersons and Dharma and Greg for eternity…. /////

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:59:19pm

I have to agree with Dave on this one.

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:59:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 3:59:48pm

re: #469 teleskiguy

I have to agree with Dave on this one.

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Might just work. I can see Hoft RTing it.

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No Depression  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:00:07pm

re: #466 CuriousLurker

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I’m thinking troll.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:00:25pm

re: #469 teleskiguy

I think the problem here is that there are people who are legitimately stupid enough to take this seriously. Poe’s Law, etc.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:00:58pm

re: #472 No Depression

I’m thinking troll.

Could be. Either way it needs to be called out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:02:23pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:02:24pm

re: #469 teleskiguy

I have to agree with Dave on this one.

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Looking at that sky and the crowd, and knowing why, makes you think this might be the best day in Chicago since 1945.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:02:33pm

I think Rudy is full of shit about his FBI “sources.”

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:02:37pm

re: #459 CuriousLurker

E.g. Justin Martyr in his 2nd Apology:

For I myself, too, when I was delighting in the doctrines of Plato, and heard the Christians slandered, and saw them fearless of death, and of all other things which are counted fearful, perceived that it was impossible that they could be living in wickedness and pleasure. For what sensual or intemperate man, or who that counts it good to feast on human flesh,[4] could welcome death that he might be deprived of his enjoyments, and would not rather continue always the present life, and attempt to escape the observation of the rulers; and much less would he denounce himself when the consequence would be death? This also the wicked demons have now caused to be done by evil men. For having put some to death on account of the accusations falsely brought against us, they also dragged to the torture our domestics, either children or weak women, and by dreadful torments forced them to admit those fabulous actions which they themselves openly perpetrate; about which we are the less concerned, because none of these actions are really ours, and we have the unbegotten and ineffable God as witness both of our thoughts and deeds. For why did we not even publicly profess that these were the things which we esteemed good, and prove that these are the divine philosophy, saying that the mysteries of Saturn are performed when we slay a man, and’ that when we drink our fill of blood, as it is said we do, we are doing what you do before that idol you honour, and on which you sprinkle the blood not only of irrational animals, but also of men, making a libation of the blood of the slain by the hand of the most illustrious and noble man among you? And imitating Jupiter and the other gods in sodomy and shameless intercourse with woman, might we not bring as our apology the writings of Epicurus and the poets? But because we persuade men to avoid such instruction, and all who practise them and imitate such examples, as now in this discourse we have striven to persuade you, we are assailed in every kind of way. But we are not concerned, since we know that God is a just observer of all. But would that even now some one would mount a lofty rostrum, and shout with a loud voice, “Be ashamed, be ashamed, ye who charge the guiltless with those deeds which yourselves openly commit, and ascribe things which apply to yourselves and to your gods to those who have not even the slightest sympathy with them. Be ye converted; become wise.”

Also accused of sexual immorality.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:02:50pm

re: #473 thedopefishlives

I think the problem here is that there are people who are legitimately stupid enough to take this seriously. Poe’s Law, etc.

My favorite was of Donald Jr or Eric posting a photo of a Mavericks game and citing it as their dad’s rally and Mark Cuban commented uh that’s one of our games.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:03:15pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

What the world needs is a picture of Putin on that horse, looking tiny.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:04:30pm

So now we know. Podesta used his black magic to convince Bernie to support Hlilary. It’s all making sense now.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:04:59pm

re: #473 thedopefishlives

“Eric” trolled *everybody* with this tweet, all along the political spectrum. Our own lawhawk got trolled by “Eric.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:05:10pm

re: #477 Frankie Five Angels

I think Rudy is full of shit about his FBI “sources.”

His sources are old white pissed off retired FBI agents who run the FBI employees union (Rudy’s law firm represents them).

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:05:41pm

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A popular sentiment.

But I’m not onboard with this idea that what we are experiencing ought, or can be, avoided.

Drumpfskind has outed a lot of closeted bigots. He’s also exposed many religious leaders as hypocrites.

The stupid I’m seeing on Facebook was always there. hiding under cover. Now their id can be free.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:06:14pm

It’s a sorry-ass lazy troll that can’t even find a photo of a crowd in Philly when making false claims about an event there. It’s not as if there’s a shortage of crowd photos.

Just sayin’…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:07:07pm

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

His sources are old white pissed off retired FBI agents who run the FBI employees union (Rudy’s law firm represents them).

Ah the shriveled up dick network.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:07:36pm

re: #485 CuriousLurker

I thought it was a pro-Cubs fan.

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William Lewis  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:07:44pm

re: #470 BeachDem

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I really love that song’s structure. It is so unlike the typical rock/pop song.

…most popular songs have a refrain that is repeated several times throughout the song, the true chorus to “Don’t Stop Believin’” (as well as first mention of its title) is not heard until the end of the song, with only 0:50 left…

Introduction (instrumental) (0:00-0:17)
Verse 1 (0:17-0:49)
Instrumental (0:49-1:05)
Verse 2 (half-length) (1:05-1:20)
Pre-chorus 1 (1:20-1:54)
Instrumental (1:54-2:01)
Verse 3 (2:01-2:33)
Pre-chorus 2 (2:33-3:05)
Instrumental (chorus) (3:05-3:21)
Chorus until fade (3:21-4:11)

en.wikipedia.org

I think the fact that it was so unusual plus being easy to sing along to is why it became so popular.

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piratedan  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:08:08pm

re: #477 Frankie Five Angels

I actually believe him. I’m coming to the firm belief, based on the behavior of the last week, that there are enough Clinton hating FBI folks that are willing to try and throw a spanner into her campaign (if they can stay safely anonymous, tyvm) by making shit up. After all, we just watched loyal public servants spend over 7m to publicly parade her in front of committee after committee in hops of finding malfeasance in Benghazi and seeing the dog and pony show that revolved around her e-mail usage, and charitable foundation. Considering Guilliani’s past history with the FBI and the players identified, I actually find it plausible that these guys feel like they have an “honor” to deny her the presidency.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:08:11pm

re: #478 Nyet

And plain cannibalism (Athenagoras, A Plea for Christians):

What man of sound mind, therefore, will affirm, while such is our character, that we are murderers? For we cannot eat human flesh till we have killed some one. The former charge, therefore, being false, if any one should ask them in regard to the second, whether they have seen what they assert, not one of them would be so barefaced as to say that he had. And yet we have slaves, some more and some fewer, by whom we could not help being seen; but even of these, not one has been found to invent even such things against us. For when they know that we cannot endure even to see a man put to death, though justly; who of them can accuse us of murder or cannibalism? Who does not reckon among the things of greatest interest the contests of gladiators and wild beasts, especially those which are given by you? But we, deeming that to see a man put to death is much the same as killing him, have abjured such spectacles. How, then, when we do not even look on, lest we should contract guilt and pollution, can we put people to death? And when we say that those women who use drugs to bring on abortion commit murder, and will have to give an account to God s for the abortion, on what principle should we commit murder? For it does not belong to the same person to regard the very foetus in the womb as a created being, and therefore an object of God’s care, and when it has passed into life, to kill it; and not to expose an infant, because those who expose them are chargeable with child-murder, and on the other hand, when it has been reared to destroy it. But we are in all things always alike and the same, submitting ourselves to reason, and not ruling over it.

Note the bit about abortion BTW. That’s one ancient rule.

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No Depression  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:09:27pm

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

His sources are old white pissed off retired FBI agents who run the FBI employees union (Rudy’s law firm represents them).

It always seems to be the biggest, most willfully stupid assholes in law enforcement that run the unions.

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:11:03pm

re: #472 No Depression

I’m thinking troll.

Joker. If you look at his tweet page he is all about the Cubs. He knows those are Cubs fans.

Oh, I hear the guitars calling…and my buddy is at the door!

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:11:29pm

In other news - new kitties at our house!!!

This is Bean….
.and this is Spock.

Scout is in total freakout mode, and Trixie was introduced and promptly took off for the basement. Gonna be a fun weekend around here.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:12:07pm

His book on progressive rock should be pretty good.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:12:26pm

re: #490 Nyet

Tertullian goes into more detail:

II. i. We are accused of infamous secret atrocities,— infanticide, a feast of blood, and incest, although no proof has ever been forthcoming, and only rumour is responsible for the charge.

WE are called the most infamous of men on the charge of an infanticidal religious rite and a banquet thereat, and incest after the feast;—incest which dogs that overturn the lights (our pimps forsooth) bring about through the shamelessness which is occasioned by the darkness and impious lusts. Yet we are ever but called so, nor are you at any pains to drag into light what we have been so long charged with. Either therefore elicit the facts if you believe them, or forego belief if you have not brought them to light. Your want of straightforwardness lays you open to the preliminary objection that what you do not dare to investigate has in fact no existence. A very different duty from investigation is that which you bid your executioner carry out against the Christians, namely, not to make them say what they do, but to make them deny what they are.

The origin of this religion dates, as I have already said, from the time of Tiberius. On its first appearance the Truth encountered hostility from the prejudice it always excites. She had as many enemies as there were strangers to her: the Jews indeed peculiarly so, from jealousy; the soldiers, from habits of |24 extortion; even those of our own households 20, from the force of circumstances. We are daily beset, daily betrayed, we are unexpectedly seized, and oftenest in our actual assemblies and meetings. Yet who even thus ever chanced on a squalling infant? Who ever kept us for the judge with our mouths bloody as he found them, like Cyclops and Sirens? Who ever detected in their wives any traces of un-chastity? Who ever first found out and then concealed such crimes, or sold his information with the culprits in his grasp? If we are always escaping detection, when was our guilt made known? nay, by whom could it be divulged? Certainly not by the criminals themselves, since the duty of secrecy is imperatively demanded in all mysteries. The Samothracian and Eleusinian mysteries are kept secret; how much more, then, such as, if disclosed, would at once provoke human punishment and for which Divine wrath would be reserved? If then they are not themselves their own betrayers, it follows that outsiders must have furnished the information. And whence have outsiders derived their acquaintance with the facts? when from religious initiations the profane are always excluded, and precautions are taken against witnesses,—unless indeed the impious know less of fear!

The nature of rumour is known to all. As your own poet says 21—

‘Rumour is an ill, and none more swift.’

Why is Rumour an ill? because swift? because a |25 talebearer? or because generally false? for not even when in the act of bringing true news is it free from the taint of falsehood,—detracting from, adding to, altering the truth. Why, such is its condition of being, that it would not steadily persist unless it spread falsehood, and it only flourishes so long as it offers no proofs; since, when it has brought proofs, it ceases to exist, and hands over the fact as if its duty of news-bearing were discharged; and thenceforward it is held as a fact, and is called a fact. Nor does any one say for instance: ‘They say this happened at Rome;’ or, ‘There is a rumour that he is appointed to the province;’ but, ‘He is appointed to the province;’ and, ‘This happened at Rome.’ Rumour, a name for uncertainty, has no place where certainty exists. For would any but a rash man believe Rumour? A wise man trusts not to the uncertain. Any one can judge this, no matter how wide the circuit of its diffusion, no matter how strengthened by emphatic assertion. A tale which has originated at some time or other with a single authority, from him is bound to insinuate itself into the propagating channels of tongues and ears. And a flaw in the insignificant source so obscures the rest of the report, that it never strikes any one whether the first lips did not originate a falsehood, as often happens either from a jealous imagination or whimsical suspicion, or the mere love of lying which in some persons is not an acquirement, but innate. Well is it, then, that according to your own proverbs and maxims, ‘time reveals all things,’ in the |26 order of Nature which has so arranged it that nothing be long hidden, even though rumour has not disseminated it.

Justly, therefore, has Rumour alone all this time been privy to the crimes of the Christians. This is the informer you produce against us,—one which has never yet been able up to the present time to prove the charge it in times past cast in our teeth, though in so long a period of time it has strengthened it into a general belief.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:12:30pm

re: #482 teleskiguy

“Eric” trolled *everybody* with this tweet, all along the political spectrum. Our own lawhawk got trolled by “Eric.”

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That pretty effing big if you can see it from 760 miles away, huh?

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:12:35pm

re: #489 piratedan

I actually believe him. I’m coming to the firm belief, based on the behavior of the last week, that there are enough Clinton hating FBI folks that are willing to try and throw a spanner into her campaign (if they can stay safely anonymous, tyvm) by making shit up. After all, we just watched loyal public servants spend over 7m to publicly parade her in front of committee after committee in hops of finding malfeasance in Benghazi and seeing the dog and pony show that revolved around her e-mail usage, and charitable foundation. Considering Guilliani’s past history with the FBI and the players identified, I actually find it plausible that these guys feel like they have an “honor” to deny her the presidency.

Thanks for not saying ‘wrench’.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:12:50pm

re: #493 makeitstop

FELINES OF DOOM!!!!

I got to meet a friend’s cat late last night. I had to rescue said friend when she got stranded at a department store without a ride home. Upon returning, I had to be introduced to the kitteh, who was mostly just grateful that I returned her human to her.

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Bass Reeves  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:13:01pm

re: #485 CuriousLurker

He’s making fun of the people who do that thing seriously, like the Cavs parade. His TL is pretty funny.

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:13:15pm

re: #488 William Lewis

I really love that song’s structure. It is so unlike the typical rock/pop song.

en.wikipedia.org

I think the fact that it was so unusual plus being easy to sing along to is why it became so popular.

The most downloaded song of the 20th century, right there.

I blame ‘Glee.’

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:14:27pm

re: #495 Nyet

But you may say that deceit and imposition are practised upon the ignorant neophytes. For they might be unaware of any such assertions about the Christians as ought at any rate to have been enquired into and investigated with all carefulness. And yet it occurs to me that it is customary for those who are desirous of being initiated to go first to the director of the sacred ritual and to take down the requisite preparations. He of course would say: ‘An infant is indispensable, one quite young, and |28 ignorant of the meaning of death, who will smile under your knife; bread likewise, in which to soak up the juicy blood; candlesticks, too, and lights, and some dogs and bits of offal to make them strain forward and overturn the lights; above all, you must bring your mother and sister with you.’ What if they will not come; or if you have none? What, in fine, are solitary candidates without relatives to do? He will not be a valid Christian, I suppose, who is not a brother or a son. Grant, if you like, that all these preliminaries have been prepared for neophytes without their knowledge; at least they learn them afterwards, and bear up under the shock, and condone it. They fear, you say, lest they should be punished; whereas if they were to proclaim the infamy they would deserve every protection, and they would prefer even voluntary death to life with such a consciousness of guilt. But granting that they are afraid; why do they still continue Christians? For it follows that you no longer wish to be that which you never would have become, had you known beforehand. |29

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:14:37pm

re: #496 CuriousLurker

Obvious troll is obvious. I thought it was funny.

:P

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Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:15:06pm

re: #497 wrenchwench

Thanks for not saying ‘wrench’.

Tragic victim of “Top Gear Syndrome”.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:15:38pm

re: #492 ObserverArt

Joker. If you look at his tweet page he is all about the Cubs. He knows those are Cubs fans.

Oh, I hear the guitars calling…and my buddy is at the door!

Have to disagree. Jokers can be funny, but trolls? Nope.

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TedStriker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:16:54pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Cue wingnut bullshit about knives and guns.

And “gun-free zones”; I guarantee LaPierre will be on it before the night is out.

Oy vey…

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William Lewis  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:17:54pm

re: #500 makeitstop

The most downloaded song of the 20th century, right there.

I blame ‘Glee.’

The Sopranos finale really boosted it too.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:18:24pm

This is nice:

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:18:29pm

re: #502 teleskiguy

Obvious troll is obvious. I thought it was funny.

:P

It might be funny if there weren’t people ready to believe it and if there wasn’t a contentious election surrounded by threats of violence happening in four days. YMMV

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:18:53pm

re: #501 Nyet

Minucius Felix goes straight to the point:

Chapter XXX.—Argument: The Story About Christians Drinking the Blood of an Infant that They Have Murdered, is a Barefaced Calumny. But the Gentiles, Both Cruelly Expose Their Children Newly Born, and Before They are Born Destroy Them by a Cruel Abortion. Christians are Neither Allowed to See Nor to Hear of Manslaughter.

“And now I should wish to meet him who says or believes that we are initiated by the slaughter and blood of an infant. Think you that it can be possible for so tender, so little a body to receive those fatal wounds; for any one to shed, pour forth, and drain that new blood of a youngling, and of a man scarcely come into existence? No one can believe this, except one who can dare to do it. And I see that you at one time expose your begotten children to wild beasts and to birds; at another, that you crush them when strangled with a miserable kind of death. There are some women who, by drinking medical preparations,[1] extinguish the source of the future man in their very bowels, and thus commit a parricide before they bring forth. And these things assuredly come down from the teaching of your gods. For Saturn did not expose his children, but devoured them. With reason were infants sacrificed to him by parents in some parts of Africa, caresses and kisses repressing their crying, that a weeping victim might not be sacrificed. Moreover, among the Tauri of Pontus, and to the Egyptian Busiris, it was a sacred rite to immolate their guests, and for the Galli to slaughter to Mercury human, or rather inhuman, sacrifices. The Roman sacrificers buried living a Greek man and a Greek woman, a Gallic man and a Gallic woman; and to this day, Jupiter Latiaris is worshipped by them with murder; and, what is worthy of the son of Saturn, he is gorged with the blood of an evil and criminal man. I believe that he himself taught Catiline to conspire under a compact of blood, and Bellona to steep her sacred rites with a draught of human gore, and taught men to heal epilepsy with the blood of a man, that is, with a worse disease. They also are not unlike to him who devour the wild beasts from the arena, besmeared and stained with blood, or fattened with the limbs or the entrails of men. To us it is not lawful either to see or to hear of homicide; and so much do we shrink from human blood, that we do not use the blood even of eatable animals in our food.

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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:19:57pm
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Thanos  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:20:46pm

re: #466 CuriousLurker

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That guy’s been having a gas all day trolling people with this, he’s in it for the lulz, not for serious.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:21:24pm

re: #509 Nyet

So basically the Christian accusations against Jews were darkly ironic.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:21:27pm

re: #495 Nyet

Justly, therefore, has Rumour alone all this time been privy to the crimes of Hillary Clinton the Christians. This is the informer you produce against us,—one which has never yet been able up to the present time to prove the charge it in times past cast in our teeth, though in so long a period of time it has strengthened it into a general belief.

It’s amazing how well this passage from Tertullian applies vs. the GOP with just one substitution. Fox News and Hate Radio are new innovations, but their essence is ancient.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:22:39pm

Local idiot Vopel has been getting very wide coverage with his know-nothingness. I think this is the 2nd mention the The Guardian:

California politician likes climate change because ‘our enemies’ live in hot places

Randy Voepel is a big fan of climate change because America’s “enemies are on the equator” and a warmer climate will make their lives worse.

Voepel, a Republican running unopposed to be a California assemblyman, told a reporter in 2007 that he likes global warming because of the harm it will bring to certain nations and because “warmer weather gives the region warm days in November”, the Voice of San Diego reported at the time.

[…]

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:23:54pm
When the Guardian asked for clarification, the mayor said: “I’m not at all against Muslims, but I reject sharia law. The Muslims that practice sharia law do not recognize the United States Constitution, and they do not recognize our laws or the European Union laws.”

Yeah, that’s Vopel.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:23:57pm

re: #514 freetoken

Local idiot Vopel has been getting very wide coverage with his know-nothingness. I think this is the 2nd mention the The Guardian:

California politician likes climate change because ‘our enemies’ live in hot places

He will burn in Hell. Or somewhere.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:24:49pm

re: #516 wrenchwench

Remember, that’s the part of the San Diego area from which the Institute for Creation Research sprang. It moved to Texas later.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:25:19pm

re: #511 Thanos

That guy’s been having a gas all day trolling people with this, he’s in it for the lulz, not for serious.

Yeah, I get that, I just don’t happen to think it’s funny or consider him a “joker.” He’s an immature little shit who fits the textbook definition of “troll.”

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, often for their own amusement.

IMO, someone who gets their amusement like that is seriously fucked up.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:25:27pm

re: #517 freetoken

Remember, that’s the part of the San Diego area from which the Institute for Creation Research sprang. It moved to Texas later.

He can burn in Texas.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:26:09pm

re: #515 freetoken

When the Guardian asked for clarification, the mayor said: “I’m not at all against Muslims Jews, but I reject sharia the halakhic law. The Muslims Jews that practice sharia the halakhic law do not recognize the United States Constitution, and they do not recognize our laws or the European Union laws.”

ftfy

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:26:54pm

re: #466 CuriousLurker

That’s a parody. Look at his responses. Pretty funny.

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danarchy  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:26:57pm

re: #508 CuriousLurker

It might be funny if there weren’t people ready to believe it and if there wasn’t a contentious election surrounded by threats of violence happening in four days. YMMV

Yeah, my mileage definitely varies. I thought it was funny.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:26:59pm

re: #515 freetoken

Yeah, that’s Vopel.

So does that go for Jews who follow Halakha also? Just asking for a friend. //

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:26:59pm

re: #519 wrenchwench

He can burn in Texas.

He’s running unopposed… which means he’ll be in Sacramento.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:27:56pm

Rudy G’s eyes are getting pretty buggy on Tweety’s show.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:28:45pm

re: #521 MsJ

That’s a parody. Look at his responses. Pretty funny.

re: #522 danarchy

Yeah, my mileage definitely varies. I thought it was funny.

Well, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, aren’t we? I’m simply expressing mine, just like everyone else here does. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:28:49pm

re: #524 freetoken

He’s running unopposed… which means he’ll be in Sacramento.

Well… we don’t want to set California on fire…at least until my customer the firefighter is on duty there in July or so.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:29:44pm

A Shire horse is a hobbit horse, right? // sry

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:32:09pm

“…According to data compiled by the state, nearly 6,700 challenged voters were removed from registration lists in eight counties over the past two years. Most were in Cumberland County, which includes Fayetteville.
A conservative group called the Voter Integrity Project used a variety of data mining techniques, looking for signs that voters had moved and should no longer be on the rolls. They then invoked the state challenge process, and county election officials sent notices to challenged voters, giving them a chance to respond. Those who did not were dropped.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:32:10pm

re: #526 CuriousLurker

Well, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, aren’t we? I’m simply expressing mine, just like everyone else here does. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Senses of humor are funny things.

At home we had to ban all political discussions until after the election. We agree on most things, and all of the important ones, but we were arguing over nuances. We sometimes make exceptions, ‘This won’t be current politics, it’s political science!’

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:32:40pm

re: #529 jaunte

Preferably manually.

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plansbandc  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:33:44pm

re: #514 freetoken

The California Republican as a general rule has a unique and impressive batshittery. I think it comes from being lonely.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:35:48pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

pathetic

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“Trump’s Folly

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:35:54pm

re: #532 plansbandc

The California Republican as a general rule has a unique and impressive batshittery. I think it comes from being lonely.

CA Republicans have not chosen well in response to losing most of their political power in the state.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:36:01pm

re: #529 jaunte

A conservative group. Color me surprised.

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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:37:04pm

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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:38:06pm

re: #534 EPR-radar

CA Republicans have not chosen well in response to losing most of their political power in the state.

They keep thinking the only reason they lose is that they don’t choose crazy enough candidates.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:38:39pm

re: #537 Skip Intro

They keep thinking the only reason they lose is that they don’t choose crazy enough candidates.

The idea that someone might be too crazy has apparently never crossed their mind.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:38:40pm

re: #530 wrenchwench

Senses of humor are funny things.

At home we had to ban all political discussions until after the election. We agree on most things, and all of the important ones, but we were arguing over nuances. We sometimes make exceptions, ‘This won’t be current politics, it’s political science!’

I’m seriously considering staying strictly in ding-only lurk mode until next Wednesday as I’ve just about had my fill of all the nastiness for the time being. There aren’t many things I find “funny” about this election anymore, so my sense of humor is pretty much non-existent right now.

I’m out for now. Later, lizards.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:39:12pm

re: #435 Blind Frog Belly White

Meanwhile, I think the stress of the election is giving me ocular migraines. You know how ice forms on the inside of your windows in the winter? Kinda jaggy lines and like that? Okay, imagine a patch of that in your field of vision, but also kinda flashing.

First time I got one, it scared the shit outta me. I thought I must be having a stroke, so I contrived a reason to go talk to one of my minions, figuring if I were speaking in gibberish, she’d let me know.

Then I looked up ‘optical disturbance’ and there it was, perfectly described, right down to how it expands, moves around a bit, and ends within 30 minutes of starting.

And not to worry about it.

You may be having “regular” migraines with aura. I have had both kinds of migraines: ocular migraines are simple flashing lights that intensify with sunlight or any bright light.

Auras are (for me) flashing jagged circles that form in the visual cortex, appear for an hour or so, then fade. A full migraine with pain may or may not follow.

A migraine phenomenon is when arteries constrict, spasm, relax and constrict again, over and over. The exact symptoms depend on where the artery is. If it is in your eye, you get flashing lights but no pain. If it’s in your brain or scalp, you have the pain. And sometimes the aura.

I’ve had all of these things, because I’ve had multiple eye surgeries. I also get nasal congestion without any apparent allergies because the migraines also screw up the blood vessels in the nose.

My migraines are not particularly tied to stress as such, but if I have bad sleep and neglect to take my meds, they will come up.

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wrenchwench  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:41:42pm

re: #539 CuriousLurker

I’m seriously considering staying strictly in ding-only lurk mode until next Wednesday as I’ve just about had my fill of all the nastiness for the time being. There aren’t many things I find “funny” about this election anymore, so my sense of humor is pretty much non-existent right now.

I’m out for now. Later, lizards.

{{{CL}}}

We’ll know how you’re doing by whether you are in ‘upding-only’ or ‘downding-only’ mode.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:42:27pm

re: #539 CuriousLurker

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:42:55pm

Today’s motivational picture:

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:43:43pm

So, apparently, the NY Branch the FBI is the one to have gone rogue?

That should make the situation easier to deal with. Sack Comey, and investigate who was leaking. Fire and prosecute those people.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:43:57pm

re: #496 CuriousLurker

That pretty effing big if you can see it from 760 miles away, huh?

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Pretty sure that light waves don’t have to take the Turnpike….
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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:44:30pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:44:44pm

re: #538 thedopefishlives

The idea that someone might be too crazy has apparently never crossed their mind.

It works perfectly when they run unopposed.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:45:11pm

An interesting thought at dkos:

azpenguin
Nov 05 * 12:39:19 AM

Not a national poll bit… but I was thinking — Hillary voters in Utah should vote for McMullin. Hillary is not going to win there. McMullin, however, has a shot. (As a Mormon friend in UT told me, they aren’t going to vote for Hillary but they despise Trump.) If he wins that state, that’s some EVs that Trump desperately needs that are taken off the table.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:47:07pm

re: #548 Nyet

That came up yesterday quite a bit.

I for one don’t think it’s a good argument. There’s no need to not vote for Hillary if one fears Drumpfskind. Drumpfy has almost no chance of getting to 270 EVs, but if he does win it will be because he carries PA and FL and OH, not because he carries UT.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:47:39pm
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garzooma  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:48:20pm

re: #510 Skip Intro

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Interesting take by David Graham in the Atlantic on the connection between BridgeGate and Trump. Short version: Christie, who hired the staffers who were just convicted, is, as head of the Trump transition team, in charge of hiring the staffers for a future Trump administration. I’ll add that Trump picked Christie while acknowledging that Christie “totally knew about it.”

If you liked the way the Christie administration approached such problems, you’re probably going to love a Trump administration. After all, the same guy’s in charge of the hiring process.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:48:52pm

re: #550 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Maybe they can find some Trump emails….
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Nah. He probably gets all his orders via dead drop.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:49:08pm

re: #426 teleskiguy

Mail-in balloting is da shizz! Oregon, Washington, and Colorado have all mail-in ballots. They also all have fully legal cannabis. Coincidence?

We have mail-in voting in Nebraska, too. Republicans don’t try to pass voter ID laws or voter suppression laws in places where they have an overwhelming majority; the GOP controlled Unicameral here makes it just as easy to vote as Oregon or Colorado.

They only do that in states where voting might be close.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:50:05pm

re: #550 Ziggy_TARDIS

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So, Felicity and her Dad (The Calculator) are on the case!
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:50:06pm

re: #550 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah, and “let’s advertise it so they can fix it in time”. Count me skeptical.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:51:12pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:51:18pm

re: #550 Ziggy_TARDIS

Nice that NBC told them.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:51:36pm

re: #555 Nyet

True.

I would funny if the US simply shut off the power for, say, Moscow for a few hours.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:52:38pm

re: #557 Skip Intro

Nice that NBC told them.

I think that’s part of the plan.

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KGxvi  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:52:44pm

re: #538 thedopefishlives

The idea that someone might be too crazy has apparently never crossed their mind.

Most of the sane people have left the CA GOP. If your wife crazy but you’re surrounded by other crazy people, you think you’re sane. That’s why this year in the primary the top four Republican candidates combined for 19.9% of the vote (which was only 1% better than Sanchez did finishing second)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:52:53pm

re: #557 Skip Intro

Nice that NBC told them.

The stupid Japanese are setting their depth charges too shallow—har-de-har-har!

—Chicago Tribune.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:54:01pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:54:57pm

re: #466 CuriousLurker

He’s trolling and I’m laughing. He know it would instantly be exposed as fake, making any Trump fans who buy it a joke.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:55:17pm

re: #559 jaunte

I think that’s part of the plan.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:55:47pm

re: #559 jaunte

Sounds more like braggadocio than a real plan to me…

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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:56:27pm

Trump’s America.

Man Pulls Gun On 6 Kids For Damaging Donald Trump Sign: Police

A Michigan man has been charged with seven felonies after he allegedly held six kids at gunpoint, believing they’d damaged a Donald Trump campaign sign in his yard, the Southgate News Herald reported.

Michael Robert Kubek, 56, reportedly called the police on Oct. 29 to report that a group of teens had hit his “Trump for President” lawn sign.

When officers arrived, Kubek wasn’t home, but they heard a lot of yelling on the corner and went to see what was causing the commotion, the Herald reported. They found Kubek yelling and cursing at a group of adolescents ages 12 to 14, who were sitting on some grass in front of a house, police said.

Kubek accused the youths of damaging his Trump sign, but admitted that he hadn’t seen any of them actually do it and didn’t have security cameras that could prove who destroyed the sign, according to officers.

Probably could have just shot them in Texas.

huffingtonpost.com

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:57:27pm

re: #473 thedopefishlives

I think the problem here is that there are people who are legitimately stupid enough to take this seriously. Poe’s Law, etc.

Absolutely, and people are understandably very sensitive about propaganda right now.

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William Lewis  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:57:47pm

re: #555 Nyet

Yeah, and “let’s advertise it so they can fix it in time”. Count me skeptical.

OTOH, Operation Mincemeat ?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:58:34pm
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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:58:42pm

re: #565 Nyet

It might not be true, but now someone has to check.

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KGxvi  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:58:59pm

re: #558 Ziggy_TARDIS

True.

I would funny if the US simply shut off the power for, say, Moscow for a few hours.

Wouldn’t that constitute an act of war?

Seems like there would be a better way to retaliate

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:59:02pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 4, 2016 • 4:59:16pm

re: #557 Skip Intro

Nice that NBC told them.

That may well be deliberate. Secret and deterrent are choices that can go either way to our benefit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:00:55pm

re: #573 Rightwingconspirator

That may well be deliberate. Secret and deterrent are choices that can go either way to our benefit.

So, maybe more like this.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:01:21pm

re: #564 Blind Frog Belly White

Wish I had a gif of that spinning slowly… Call me crazy I have some faith in our people.

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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:04:10pm

S&P 500 losing streak extends to ninth straight day

(Reuters) - The S&P 500 ended lower on Friday for a ninth straight day, the longest losing streak for the benchmark index in more than 35 years, as investors stayed on edge ahead of an uncertain U.S. election.

The tech-heavy Nasdaq also ended lower for a ninth-consecutive session, while the Dow industrials closed down for a seventh straight day.

Just a preview of what’s going to happen if Trump wins.

fidelity.com

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Franklin  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:04:14pm

Completely random question….

Do we have any barbers/stylists on board here? Or anyone familiar with Wahl and Oster clippers?

I have used Wahl for cutting my hair for years and it does an OK job. Size 1 on the sides tapered up to a 3. Then a 7 on top.

I want to buy some Oster 76 clippers. Will that be an improvement? I imagine so, my barbershop cuts are usually far superior and while most of it is due to the barber, I’m sure the equipment helps too!

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:05:02pm

re: #576 Nyet

If it’s true, I bet it’s not a “typo”.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:05:29pm

re: #579 freetoken

If it’s true, I bet it’s not a “typo”.

Too convenient.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:05:38pm

re: #575 Rightwingconspirator

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Wish I had a gif of that spinning slowly… Call me crazy I have some faith in our people.

I’m glad you don’t. The ocular migraine was bad enough!

Yes, I believe this was a strategic leak. They have, or have not penetrated what they said they did. If they didn’t, the Russians will spend effort fruitlessly searching but not finding the intrusion, and won’t believe it when they don’t find it.

If they have, then the Russians wonder what they DIDN’T mention.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:06:39pm

So, can we start believing the ABC/WashPo tracker again?

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:07:11pm

Crazytimes

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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:07:47pm

re: #582 Blind Frog Belly White

A narrow four point lead against Trump. I can’t tell you how depressing that news is to me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:08:04pm

Wait. I thought that was Martin Luther who did that.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:08:56pm

re: #584 Skip Intro

It is…

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:09:25pm

re: #585 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait. I thought that was Martin Luther who did that.

I thought it was Trump with his attacks on the Pope…

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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:09:54pm

re: #583 jaunte

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Crazytimes

“Or would you all like a pony? Should we use that money to give everyone a pony? OK, you really like that idea, so screw the bridge and highway. Everybody gets a pony!”

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piratedan  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:10:02pm

re: #585 Blind Frog Belly White

next thing you know, she’ll be after the Stonecutters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:11:14pm

re: #584 Skip Intro

A narrow four point lead against Trump. I can’t tell you how depressing that news is to me.

As bad as that is, consider also that Republican Senators are ALREADY talking openly of not confirming ANY Democrat-appointed Supreme Court Justices, and Representatives are speaking of Impeachment.

It’s not just that they want a stereotypical Strong Man for President. They’re rebelling against the very roots of our democracy, because they don’t really believe in self-government.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:12:02pm

re: #583 jaunte

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Crazytimes

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:12:36pm

re: #589 piratedan

next thing you know, she’ll be after the Stonecutters.

Say it ain’t so!

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Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:13:06pm

re: #590 Blind Frog Belly White

As bad as that is, consider also that Republican Senators are ALREADY talking openly of not confirming ANY Democrat-appointed Supreme Court Justices, and Representatives are speaking of Impeachment.

It’s not just that they want a stereotypical Strong Man for President. They’re rebelling against the very roots of our democracy, because they don’t really believe in self-government.

Clinton will be the first president to ever face impeachment the same day she’s inaugurated.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:13:34pm

re: #351 FormerDirtDart

“Be on the lookout for anybody with brown skin who isn’t driving a car. Intelligence indicates terrorists may attack Kroger, 7/11, or Cheddars. Extra security has been placed at Krispy Kreme to ensure safety of the sugar supply.”

Why the fuck would anybody want to attack Texas, indeed

/just moved from there, never goin’ back

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:15:46pm

re: #583 jaunte

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Crazytimes

Wasn’t that a Brexit talking point? Millions being paid in and getting nothing back? Or was that health care payments, I can’t remember. Something something slogan on a bus.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:16:20pm

THE BEST MEMORY, TREMENDOUS!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:17:09pm

re: #593 Skip Intro

Clinton will be the first president to ever face impeachment the same day she’s inaugurated.

I do wonder how much of that is simple bluster. The last impeachment the GOP tried actually blew up in their faces, and they were at least able to point to a potential violation of the law. This one would be simply demanding a do-over for an election they lost.

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KingKenrod  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:19:35pm

re: #578 Franklin

Completely random question….

Do we have any barbers/stylists on board here? Or anyone familiar with Wahl and Oster clippers?

I have used Wahl for cutting my hair for years and it does an OK job. Size 1 on the sides tapered up to a 3. Then a 7 on top.

I want to buy some Oster 76 clippers. Will that be an improvement? I imagine so, my barbershop cuts are usually far superior and while most of it is due to the barber, I’m sure the equipment helps too!

Not a barber or stylist, but I can vouch for Oster’s quality - however they are expensive. I have Oster Juice clippers and they are great.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:23:41pm

huffingtonpost.com

A man in Louden County, Virginia was carrying a gun and wearing a Trump shirt directly outside the entrance of a drop off for absentee ballots. Authorities in Louden County say that’s fine.

Louden County is considered the wealthiest county in the USA.

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John Carter  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:24:40pm

re: #450 thedopefishlives

I’m going to say this once and be done with it: Everyone, CALM THE FUCK DOWN. We got this. No, I’m not saying we should just assume victory is in the bag, but we shouldn’t be worrying or stressing about “what if”. What if Trump wins? We’ll deal with that if it happens, that’s what. Will it be a disaster? Probably. Will we survive it? Almost certainly. Will it be pleasant? Not likely, but we’ll come back the stronger for it, and the record books will show that Trump was the worst President ever and all of his actions were completely undone by the time he left office. In the meantime, I hold my head high and sleep well at night (well, for the sleep I get, anyway), confident that America just won’t fuck this up just yet.

This ^^^^^^^
×100000000000

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:26:01pm

We needz organ music to accompany these headlines:

Clinton’s Detroit detour signals Dems’ worry

This state was supposed to be a lock until African-American turnout began to look weak.

602
Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:27:02pm

re: #597 Blind Frog Belly White

I do wonder how much of that is simple bluster. The last impeachment the GOP tried actually blew up in their faces, and they were at least able to point to a potential violation of the law. This one would be simply demanding a do-over for an election they lost.

The base is going to be really, really pissed off at the “RINOS” if they lose so the GOP will be looking for some red meat to keep them entertained. I have no problem at all seeing the GOP House do this because it’s full of crazy people.

603
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:28:40pm

re: #574 Blind Frog Belly White

Except we can bring far more power to bear on Russia than they can to us.

604
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:29:14pm

re: #582 Blind Frog Belly White

No, because it is overly spastic.

605
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:30:36pm

re: #601 freetoken

Ok, is there another source besides the Politico?

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:30:41pm

WaPo editorial board:

Can anyone control the FBI?

[…]

We can only guess at the motives of the FBI agents behind this politicization of law enforcement, but their behavior is sickening. The campaign has been hard enough with the ugly chants of “lock her up.” The last thing we need is to find the fingerprints of the nation’s premier law enforcement agency all over an 11th-hour smear of Ms. Clinton.

607
Franklin  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:30:54pm

re: #598 KingKenrod

Not a barber or stylist, but I can vouch for Oster’s quality - however they are expensive. I have Oster Juice clippers and they are great.

Thanks! I’ve gone through 3 sets of Wahl clippers over the years. I’m sure the Osters will be far more durable. BUT would also be more expensive to fix the motor :)

608
freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:31:21pm

re: #605 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, is there another source besides the Politico?

It’s supposed to be click-bait for Politico.

609
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:32:11pm

re: #608 freetoken

Actual polling shows a 4-8 point Clinton lead.

610
Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:34:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:34:11pm

No early voting in Michigan, like Pennsylvania, so late visits keep up enthusiasm for election day.

612
John Carter  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:34:29pm

re: #499 Bass Reeves

He’s making fun of the people who do that thing seriously, like the Cavs parade. His TL is pretty funny.

Yeah that is some clever shit

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:35:50pm

re: #610 Nyet

Woman who accused Trump of rape drops lawsuit

“…canceled [the press conference] after receiving threats.”

I believe that sums it up, folks. Fucking animals.

614
De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:35:58pm

re: #592 Blind Frog Belly White

Say it ain’t so!

Great movie. My fave parts: whenever Davids’ parents, played by the wonderful character actors Paul Dooley and Barbara Barrie appeared. Shite, everything about that movie is great.

615
Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:37:46pm

re: #613 thedopefishlives

“…canceled [the press conference] after receiving threats.”

I believe that sums it up, folks. Fucking animals.

Or it was bullshit from the start.

616
thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:38:30pm

re: #615 Skip Intro

Or it was bullshit from the start.

Which is equally plausible, and has probably been discussed here. However, bullshit or not, making threats against an alleged rape victim is not acceptable. Period.

617
Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:39:15pm

re: #615 Skip Intro

Or it was bullshit from the start.

And we are not likely to ever find out. Agnosticism is not just a theology.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:39:31pm

re: #590 Blind Frog Belly White

As bad as that is, consider also that Republican Senators are ALREADY talking openly of not confirming ANY Democrat-appointed Supreme Court Justices, and Representatives are speaking of Impeachment.

It’s not just that they want a stereotypical Strong Man for President. They’re rebelling against the very roots of our democracy, because they don’t really believe in self-government.

Trump is just exposing the Republican party for what it has become — a collection of cranks and bigots waiting for a fuhrer to follow because they’ve been programmed that way by GOP propaganda. Trumpism needs to be decisively defeated at the polls in order for the US to remain governable.

619
Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:39:57pm

Well, that makes it a non-story, because a court case was the only chance to examine the alleged victim and the alleged witnesses (if they even exist).

620
Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:41:03pm

re: #616 thedopefishlives

I’ll be curious to see if Trump mentions this tomorrow. If he does, I’ll assume it was all a stunt by him to show all his accusers are lying. If he says Hillary was behind the suit I’ll claim that my assumption was 100% correct.

621
Decatur Deb  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:41:09pm

re: #618 EPR-radar

Trump is just exposing the Republican party for what it has become — a collection of cranks and bigots waiting for a fuhrer to follow because they’ve been programmed that way by GOP propaganda. Trumpism needs to be decisively defeated at the polls in order for the US to remain governable.

That’s why a 2-point win is like kissing your sister.

622
Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:41:50pm

re: #614 De Kolta Chair

Great movie. My fave parts: whenever Davids’ parents, played by the wonderful character actors Paul Dooley and Barbara Barrie appeared. Shite, everything about that movie is great.

“Refund? Refund?! REFUND?!?!”

Refund? REFUND?!?
623
Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:42:02pm

re: #615 Skip Intro

Or it was bullshit from the start.

Bullshit that planted the idea in people’s minds that Trump raped a kid, then intimidated her as an adult.

There’s no way to know, and I have bad confirmation bias when it comes to Trump and women.

624
Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:42:42pm

re: #620 Skip Intro

I’ll be curious to see if Trump mentions this tomorrow. If he does, I’ll assume it was all a stunt by him to show all his accusers are lying. If he says Hillary was behind the suit I’ll claim that my assumption was 100% correct.

That would make it super-complicated - the people behind the suit seem to be Never Trump folks.

625
EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:43:01pm

re: #610 Nyet

Woman who accused Trump of rape drops lawsuit

So, the single most favorable thing about Trump in the news for the last year or so is that a lawsuit accusing Trump of child rape has been dropped.

Calling Mr. Plato. I have your Ideal of “setting a low bar” right here.

626
Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:43:05pm

re: #623 No Country For Old Haters

Bullshit that planted the idea in people’s minds that Trump raped a kid, then intimidated her as an adult.

There’s no way to know, and I have bad confirmation bias when it comes to Trump and women.

It got no coverage at all except at sites like this. I doubt that most people have ever heard of it.

627
weave  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:43:41pm
628
Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:44:32pm

re: #626 Skip Intro

It got no coverage at all except at sites like this. I doubt that most people have ever heard of it.

Most of the media didn’t cover it for fairly obvious reasons - inflammatory, lack of useful information, potentially bullshit.

629
Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:45:07pm

But I see how it could be this year’s equivalent of the TANG memos.

630
Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:45:20pm

re: #626 Skip Intro

It got no coverage at all except at sites like this. I doubt that most people have ever heard of it.

“Vote For Trump! He Probably Didn’t Rape A 13 year Old!”

631
thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:45:30pm

re: #629 Nyet

But I see how it could be this year’s equivalent of the TANG memos.

Fake but accurate, throbbing memo, ahhhh, delicious memories.

632
Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:45:50pm

re: #628 Blind Frog Belly White

Most of the media didn’t cover it for fairly obvious reasons - inflammatory, lack of useful information, potentially bullshit.

There was also that classy threatening letter from mob Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.

633
Skip Intro  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:46:20pm

re: #630 Blind Frog Belly White

“Vote For Trump! He Probably Didn’t Rape A 13 year Old!”

“But Bill Clinton did”.

634
Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:47:24pm

re: #633 Skip Intro

“But Bill Clinton did”.

“All women should be believed! Except THOSE women! They’re obviously in it for the fame hatemail and death threats!”

635
EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:48:01pm

re: #628 Blind Frog Belly White

Most of the media didn’t cover it for fairly obvious reasons - inflammatory, lack of useful information, potentially bullshit.

This was not a Clinton-zone case, where bullshit, rumor and innuendo are written up as real news.

However, a real legal case vs. Trump for child rape would have been newsworthy.

636
Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:49:16pm

re: #351 FormerDirtDart

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:50:08pm

re: #630 Blind Frog Belly White

“Vote For Trump! He Probably Didn’t Rape A 13 year Old!”

That is the literally the best thing that one can say about Trump at this time.

I can’t believe I just typed that out and can see no reason to soften it or add a sarc tag.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:50:23pm

Cillizza at WaPo: “The electoral map is definitely moving in Donald Trump’s direction”. Yesterday, but still. Such a hack.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:50:24pm

re: #635 EPR-radar

This was not a Clinton-zone case, where bullshit, rumor and innuendo are written up as real news.

However, a real legal case vs. Trump for child rape would have been newsworthy.

Presume you mean a criminal case? Yeah, that would have been.

640
freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:50:28pm

Maybe it’ll take him 108 years to overcome, too:

Rubio Returns as the Republicans’ Antidote to Trump

[…]

“The Democratic Party had money scheduled for Murphy,” says Dan Gelber, a Miami lawyer who served as Democratic minority leader in the Florida House of Representatives. But, he added, Florida has expensive media markets, “so it was either take a stand against Marco or go to two or three other places.” The Democrats decided in favor of the latter.

[…]

641
Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:51:06pm

re: #638 Nyet

OK, still today for many here.

642
Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:56:54pm

Of course one possible complicated scenario could have been:

- bait the media into discussing Epstein;
- switch to Bill;
- drop the suit;
- now it’s all about Bill and Epstein without any counterweight in the form of the lawsuit.

643
Unabogie  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:57:40pm
644
Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:57:58pm

I vaguely remember someone asking about early voting totals for Texas. Haven’t been able to find anything with statewide numbers, but for the Dallas-Fort Worth area, early voting totals have shattered previous records.

Early Voting Ends Friday After Shattering Records

County Early Voting Data Through Nov. 3, 2016
Dallas: 448,785 votes, up 24 percent from 2012 (Daily Detail)
Tarrant: 424,762 votes, up 27 percent from 2012 (Daily Detail)
Collin: 259,149 votes, up 42 percent from 2012 (Daily Detail)
Denton: 203,872 votes, up 44 percent from 2012 (Daily Detail)

In raw numbers, this is a total of roughly 1.35 million people who have already voted in four counties alone - to put this in perspective, in 2012 just under 8 million people voted in the entire state - and the numbers for the last two days (which are historically the busiest) of early voting are not included in these totals.

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:58:50pm

re: #636 Tigger2

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I guess the ISIS Army in Mexico is going to start their Rio Grande offensive soon?

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