Today’s Right Wing Derp Hurricane: Hillary Is a Satanist!

And Sean Hannity goes for it
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Meathead: Mike Cernovich

Just when you thought the right wing had hit absolute rock bottom, they break through the other side of the Earth into an entirely new dimension of derp, accusing Hillary Clinton and John Podesta of Satanism. Yes, I said SATANISM. Booga booga!

What century is this, again?

This reeking garbage truck of political madness is all over the right wing blogs, but the most whacked out post I’ve seen comes from “men’s rights advocate” and rape apologist Mike Cernovich: Podesta Emails Reveal Clinton’s Inner Circle as Sex Cult with Connections to Human Trafficking.

(This goes to an archived version of his deranged post, because I won’t send any traffic to his ugly website.)

The Stupidest Man on the Internet Jim Hoft also jumped all over this story, of course: Wikileaks: Podesta Involved in “Spirit Cooking” Dinners and Cult Activity.

And so did Wikileaks, the source of the email that led to this frenzy of foolishness:

And then, the Stupidest Man on Fox News threw his derp hat in the ring:

If you really want to peek through the window of right wing derangement, check out this Twitter hashtag for the real bad crazy: #SpiritCooking.

This fake story is so ridiculous and idiotic we shouldn’t even have to debunk it, but here’s a good post by Richard Bartholomew if you want the straight dope on what it’s actually about:

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263 comments

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:51:02pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:52:28pm

Sean Hannity takes part in a cannibalistic blood-drinking, flesh-eating ritual EVERY WEEK! Sometimes TWICE a week!
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weave  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:57:40pm

So Drudge and now the Derp crowd are making a big deal about stocks going down for the past few weeks. They seem to think it’s because of Clinton. They can’t seem to understand that the market hates volatility and Trump is about as volatile as you can get — so the more it looks like he may win, the more the stock market is going to get nervous.

Imagine (horrors) if Trump did win what the stock market will do. I wonder how they’ll spin that crash.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:58:09pm

Democrats: “We’re going to spend the next few days portraying the Republicans as unstable, untrustworthy, and crazy.”

Republicans: “WE HAVE AGENTS IN THE FBI LEAKING US INFO! HILLARY IS A SATANIST LESBIAN INVOLVED IN A GLOBAL CONSPIRACY!”

Advantage: Democrats

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:58:26pm

Good WaPo debunking:

washingtonpost.com

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:58:31pm

re: #3 weave

Blame it on Obama, what else?

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bratwurst  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:58:58pm

I have fucking had it with this election.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 5:59:50pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:01:28pm

So, apparently the Daily Kos model should be taken seriously. A guy who did better than Silver in 2012, and 2014 is behind it. Name is Drew Linzer.

Right now, Daily Kos has a 91% Chance of Clinton winning, with the margin being 323-215.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:01:33pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:01:51pm

These people. This is what three decades of the Right Wing Entertainment Complex has wrought.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:01:54pm

re: #7 bratwurst

Clueless douchebags like this planning-to-be-faithless (D) elector for WA need to be first up against the wall if the Trumpreich comes.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:01:56pm

re: #3 weave

They can’t seem to understand that the market hates volatility

And they’ve been eager to brag about Trump being “unpredictable.”

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:02:00pm

If the Church of Satan has preachers like Mike Huckabee and Pat Robertson, I ain’t joining.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:02:44pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

Nothing pepper spray can’t fix

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:03:35pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

These people. This is what three decades of the Right WIng Entertainment Complex has wrought.

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This fool is mostly harmless. The RWNJ infestation we have in the FBI is much less harmless.

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:04:39pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

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You can be an armed occupier of federal property and get away with it but the American public will not stand for their McDonald’s drive thrus being blocked.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:06:00pm

re: #7 bratwurst

Electoral College: swell idea for the ages! Not.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:06:27pm

Keep in mind that in evangelical circles, the Satanic abuse panic never went away.

Also…this is another thing that they’re going to make true, not that they believe.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:06:50pm

Trump indignant that Obama is out campaigning for a Democratic successor:

[Petulantly] “He shouldn’t be with her!!!”

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:06:51pm

re: #7 bratwurst

This faithless elector in Washington state has been brought up before, I believe, in some articles.

Regardless, it brings up the whole idea of the electoral college being completely outdated by now. Even if the US never goes to a true popular vote, we don’t need physical bodies in the electoral “college”. It can all be done electronically, with the SoS for each state simply pushing a button.

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Archangelus  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:06:55pm

re: #7 bratwurst

I have fucking had it with this election.

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This is nothing short of infuriating.

He doesn’t wanna do the job? he should quit it and be replaced.
He wants to hold the constitutional votes of millions hostage? Then he should rot away in a cell until he or someone else does the job, or face the mother of all lawsuits.

1000$ fine? Not. F*cking. Good. Enough.

/rant

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:07:46pm

re: #13 jaunte

And they’ve been eager to brag about Trump being “unpredictable.”

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Andrew Malcolm. There’s a name from the past. He used to email me constantly with links to his right wing columns for the LA Times, before they kicked his sorry ass to the curb.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:08:11pm

re: #12 EPR-radar

Clueless douchebags like this planning-to-be-faithless (D) elector for WA need to be first up against the wall if the Trumpreich comes.

Apparently, this is the Sanders supporter that charged the press tent on Clinton’s nomination. It would seem trivial to send Sanders team to talk to one guy about this.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:08:28pm

In some respects the Founding Fathers were very dumb.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:09:03pm

re: #24 Anymouse

Apparently, this is the Sanders supporter that charged the press tent on Clinton’s nomination. It would seem trivial to send Sanders team to talk to one guy about this.

Which would help how?

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:09:06pm

re: #8 Frankie Five Angels

There are a lot of insane replies to that tweet. Trump supporters have literally lost their minds.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:09:35pm

re: #18 Nyet

Electoral College: swell idea for the ages! Not.

I would like to see the National Popular Vote Compact come into force. nationalpopularvote.com

It’s most unlikely, because some red states will need to joint for it to reach threshold, and none have done so thus far.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:11:10pm

re: #28 EPR-radar

I would like to see the National Popular Vote Compact come into force. nationalpopularvote.com

It’s most unlikely, because some red states will need to joint for it to reach threshold, and none have done so thus far.

Of course they won’t join. After all the proposal makes sense.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:11:40pm

re: #25 Nyet

In some respects the Founding Fathers were very dumb.

Not really dumb. Just deeply distrustful of democracy and universal suffrage.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:13:17pm

re: #29 Nyet

Of course they won’t join. After all the proposal makes sense.

More to the point, it nullifies the structural advantage the GOP has in the electoral college by its overrepresentation of small-population states (which tend to be rural and GOP).

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:13:33pm

re: #28 EPR-radar

It’s hard to convince the least populated 25 states that giving up their EC bias is a good idea.

And I can’t blame them, really. It’s a hard pill to swallow.

The role of government has changed tremendously since the Civil War, and our antebellum institutions are really showing their age.

But change is hard.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:14:04pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

Not really dumb. Just deeply distrustful of democracy and universal suffrage.

Should have stayed King’s subjects.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:14:44pm

re: #21 freetoken

This faithless elector in Washington state has been brought up before, I believe, in some articles.

Regardless, it brings up the whole idea of the electoral college being completely outdated by now. Even if the US never goes to a true popular vote, we don’t need physical bodies in the electoral “college”. It can all be done electronically, with the SoS for each state simply pushing a button.

That brings up the idea that Constitutional Amendments are darn near impossible to pass now.

It also brings up again the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement being ushered into law in several states. (Interstate compacts are constitutional). The law as written and proposed to various states says that when 270 electoral votes worth of states enter the compact, they will all instruct their electors to vote the same way (for the person who wins the popular vote).

This makes small states (such as Wyoming or Nebraska) just as important as large states (such as California or New York) if the compact comes into force. All votes then become equal, and the states that are marginalised are the ones which are not in the compact. (Becoming an incentive to join it.)

Campaigning would then be across all states rather than just a few swing states. It would also render the Electoral College moot, since compact members would vote as a bloc for the popular vote winner.

Small and large states, Republican and Democratic controlled have joined the Compact, with more states considering the legislation.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:15:08pm

re: #27 No Country For Old Haters

There are a lot of insane replies to that tweet. Trump supporters have literally lost their minds.

Did they ever have their minds to begin with?

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meteor  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:16:12pm

I cannot wait for this to be over.

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William Lewis  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:16:14pm

re: #33 Nyet

Should have stayed King’s subjects.

But TAXES!

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:16:43pm

re: #37 William Lewis

But TAXES!

Nearly a quarter of a century later, and that word is still enough to send people into apoplectic fits.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:17:03pm

re: #36 meteor

I cannot wait for this to be over.

Are you by chance the Sweet Meteor of Death?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:17:15pm

“I’m not angry at China, I’m angry at our leaders for so many countries to let them rip us off.”

So he hates capitalism. Please proceed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:17:30pm

It’s going to be a long ass next few days in America folks.

Saddle up.

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meteor  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:17:48pm

re: #39 Nyet

At your service.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:18:21pm

re: #42 meteor

At your service.

You could end it all right now, you know ;)

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meteor  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:18:46pm

re: #43 Nyet

As you wish.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:20:00pm
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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:20:31pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t mind.

If only Americans also cared enough about issues the other 1460 days between Presidential elections to get involved in local governance.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:21:04pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:21:30pm

re: #45 Nyet

Interesting that most YT clips of this scene have “yet” in the title. Some people probably take it as a confirmation of the Mandela effect.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:21:34pm

Someone is in trouble:

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:23:20pm

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:23:29pm

re: #49 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:24:21pm

re: #51 Frankie Five Angels

A pilot must be psychologically fit. This one isn’t. Should be fired ASAP.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:24:33pm

re: #34 Anymouse

That brings up the idea that Constitutional Amendments are darn near impossible to pass now.

It also brings up again the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement being ushered into law in several states. (Interstate compacts are constitutional). The law as written and proposed to various states says that when 270 electoral votes worth of states enter the compact, they will all instruct their electors to vote the same way (for the person who wins the popular vote).

This makes small states (such as Wyoming or Nebraska) just as important as large states (such as California or New York) if the compact comes into force. All votes then become equal, and the states that are marginalised are the ones which are not in the compact. (Becoming an incentive to join it.)

Campaigning would then be across all states rather than just a few swing states. It would also render the Electoral College moot, since compact members would vote as a bloc for the popular vote winner.

Small and large states, Republican and Democratic controlled have joined the Compact, with more states considering the legislation.

Some minor points:

1) The states that have passed this compact all appear to be blue states, some large and some small.

2) If the compact comes into effect, there would be no marginalization of the non-compact states.

3) Since the electoral college would remain as an institution, the faithless elector issue would remain, although it would become negligible in practice with a sufficiently large block of states in the compact. E.g., if the block were exactly 270 votes, a single faithless elector in the block could make a decisive difference, and that temptation would be acted on. If the block is 300+ EV, no problem.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:25:42pm

re: #46 freetoken

I don’t mind.

If only Americans also cared enough about issues the other 1460 days between Presidential elections to get involved in local governance.

One of my goals when I become a citizen is to run for local office.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:26:39pm

Benghazi woman for Trump commercial on MSNBC. Look, lady, the Iraq war is 1,106 Benghazis.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:27:21pm

re: #49 Ziggy_TARDIS

Though I salute BeeKay60, did she have to add “Glad I only fly @Delta”? That’s just plumb crazy.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:27:25pm

re: #46 freetoken

I don’t mind.

If only Americans also cared enough about issues the other 1460 days between Presidential elections to get involved in local governance.

Sign me up. /s

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:28:23pm

re: #55 Frankie Five Angels

Benghazi woman for Trump commercial on MSNBC. Look, lady, the Iraq war is 1,106 Benghazis.

And many times that if the US drops the deplorable practice of counting only its war dead, especially in the war that Bush lied the US into.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:29:21pm

re: #58 EPR-radar

And many times that if the US drops the deplorable practice of counting only its war dead, especially in the war that Bush lied the US into.

Wish I could doubleding this.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:29:30pm

I’m gonna miss you when you’re gone, President Obama.
wnct.com

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:30:02pm

re: #54 Eclectic Cyborg

One of my goals when I become a citizen is to run for local office.

Want a seat on a village board in the Nebraska Panhandle? I’ll vote for you. I’ll even knock on doors for you (I already know everyone in town).

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:30:39pm

re: #58 EPR-radar

They only count the ones killed in combat? Not ones that die later from injuries?

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Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:30:54pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:31:32pm

re: #62 Frankie Five Angels

They only count the ones killed in combat? Not ones that die later from injuries?

No, we only count our own soldiers (regardless of the cause of death). Civilian casualties are ignored because they’re not Americans.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:32:30pm

Apparently I missed the blood orgy this Halloween. How was it?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:32:40pm
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:33:53pm

re: #65 Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!

Apparently I missed the blood orgy this Halloween. How was it?

Meh. They’re always better during a GOP administration.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:34:10pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

Dealing with just one point:

Some minor points:

2) If the compact comes into effect, there would be no marginalization of the non-compact states.

Assume for the sake of argument the swing state of Ohio does not join the compact, but enough states have that there are 270 or more electoral votes in those states voting for the popular vote winner.

Do you campaign in the non-compact state of Ohio, or in the states that will decide the election? The Compact states become the swing states. Any state not part of the Compact is in fact marginalised, as you can lose every one of them and still win the election. The two largest states are already part of the Compact, and other large states are considering it.

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scottslemmons  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:34:32pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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Honestly, I hope they keep going on about this crazy occult conspiracy theories. I think “Republicans are all gibbering maniacs” is certainly a winning message to voters.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:34:41pm

re: #65 Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!

Apparently I missed the blood orgy this Halloween. How was it?

Gah, the blood wasn’t even fresh.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:35:01pm

re: #70 Nyet

Gah, the blood wasn’t even fresh.

Thanks Obama.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:37:12pm

re: #51 Frankie Five Angels

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:37:19pm

re: #60 Frankie Five Angels

I’m gonna miss you when you’re gone, President Obama.
wnct.com

Paged that sentiment… Class act.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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TedStriker  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:37:20pm

re: #70 Nyet

Gah, the blood wasn’t even fresh.

A little gamey, was it?

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:39:45pm

President Obama is on Bill Maher’s show tonight. Considering that Maher can be the world’s biggest douche, I’m not sure if I am looking forward to this or not?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:40:21pm

re: #75 b.d.

President Obama is on Bill Maher’s show tonight. Considering that Maher can be the world’s biggest douche, I’m not sure if I am looking forward to this or not?

Obama is pretty deep into his all-out-of-fucks-to-give right now. I’d imagine the host doesn’t really matter at all; he’ll be awesome.

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whitebeach  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:41:41pm

Dunno why … I rarely drink ‘em at night, but something in this thread and the last one has me wanting a couple of stiff bloody marys. Dang! Outta tomato juice! What to do?

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Weaselone  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:41:59pm

re: #68 Anymouse

They’d still have to campaign in all states. I believe the compact is based on total popular vote, so major states like Ohio would still need to be campaigned in.

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:42:22pm

re: #77 whitebeach

Dunno why … I rarely drink ‘em at night, but something in this thread and the last one has me wanting a couple of stiff bloody marys. Dang! Outta tomato juice! What to do?

You coulda had a V8.

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Ian G.  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:43:50pm

Good evening, Lizards. Haven’t posted in a while but have been lurking. Looking forward to (hopefully) celebrating 4 more years of this country not turning into a right-wing dictatorship on Tuesday evening.

Anyway, the Roger Stone lunacy about Hillary being a cocaine addict in the previous thread caught my eye. Beach Dem asked what the hell the “Deagle Network NutriMedical Report” was. Well, the name Bill Deagle is a familiar one to me. He’s basically the most insane conspiracy theorist on the planet. I’m completely serious. Just check out the link at the Encyclopedia of American Loons. The dude makes Alex Jones look like Baruch Spinoza.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Trump consigliere Roger Stone was on the show of a guy who claims the Jesuits reptilians invented cell phones in order to secretly unravel our DNA.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:44:18pm

re: #76 thedopefishlives

Obama is pretty deep into his all-out-of-fucks-to-give right now. I’d imagine the host doesn’t really matter at all; he’ll be awesome.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:44:26pm

re: #77 whitebeach

Dunno why … I rarely drink ‘em at night, but something in this thread and the last one has me wanting a couple of stiff bloody marys. Dang! Outta tomato juice! What to do?

What, you don’t have a couple of bottles of infant blood in the fridge?

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:44:40pm

re: #68 Anymouse

Dealing with just one point:

Assume for the sake of argument the swing state of Ohio does not join the compact, but enough states have that there are 270 or more electoral votes in those states voting for the popular vote winner.

Do you campaign in the non-compact state of Ohio, or in the states that will decide the election? The Compact states become the swing states. Any state not part of the Compact is in fact marginalised, as you can lose every one of them and still win the election. The two largest states are already part of the Compact, and other large states are considering it.

Not so. The compact relates to the national popular vote, not to the total vote in all the compacting states.

In your example, 1 vote in the non-compact state of Ohio is just as valuable as 1 vote in any state that has accepted the compact.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:45:45pm

re: #78 Weaselone

They’d still have to campaign in all states. I believe the compact is based on total popular vote, so major states like Ohio would still need to be campaigned in.

There are arguments on both sides of the issue (both sides do it!)

In the Wikipedia article on it (Microsoft’s spellcheck neither likes the words “Wikipedia” nor “Firefox”) Republicans on both sides of the issue are cited: One notes it’s an “urban power grab” by liberals, another cited says it’s important for small marginalised rural states to have a voice in the election.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:46:58pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

The compact relates to the national popular vote, not to the total vote of all the compacting states.

As opposed to the sedan states, which…

I’ll just see myself out.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:47:45pm

re: #85 De Kolta Chair

As opposed to the sedan states, which…

I’ll just see myself out.

Or coupe states.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:48:28pm

re: #61 Anymouse

Want a seat on a village board in the Nebraska Panhandle? I’ll vote for you. I’ll even knock on doors for you (I already know everyone in town).

Interestingly enough I have a lot of extended family in Nebraska, so who knows!

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whitebeach  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:49:08pm

re: #82 Nyet

What, you don’t have a couple of bottles of infant blood in the fridge?

What, you think I’m some kinda crazy survivalist? Wait a second, may have a solution … Here, kitty kitty.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:49:57pm

Milo Yiannopolis rallies LGBT to Donald Trump’s cause by burning a rainbow flag.

That oughta work… .

wonkette.com

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Weaselone  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:50:27pm

re: #84 Anymouse

It’s probably a bit of both, but the low population states still get to have a 1 US Senator for every 5 to 6 people so they still have a disproportionate say in Washington

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:52:36pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:52:47pm

re: #89 Anymouse

Milo Yiannopolis rallies LGBT to Donald Trump’s cause by burning a rainbow flag.

That oughta work… .

wonkette.com

Can we deport him? Please?

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:52:58pm

re: #89 Anymouse

Oh, Milo’s out and about? They do incredible things with psychotropics nowadays don’t they?

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:53:27pm

re: #89 Anymouse

Milo Yiannopolis rallies LGBT to Donald Trump’s cause by burning a rainbow flag.

That oughta work… .

wonkette.com

My guess is that Trump TV will give a late night Saturday show to Milo

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:53:32pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Evidence so irrefutable it can’t be corroborated!

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:54:20pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:55:09pm

I have a special request for all the Religious / Spiritual Lizards. One of our divers was found unconscious today on the street. He’s in a coma, pupils non-reactive and minimal brain activity. I know that his GF and family would appreciate anything done for them in terms of prayers or energies. The guy has a lot of inner demons from multiple deployments and injuries suffered. I’m hoping for the best, but I’m pretty sure the best isn’t good at all.

Thanks

Steve

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Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:55:18pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:55:19pm

re: #93 De Kolta Chair

Or: pig blood does miracles.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:55:27pm

re: #89 Anymouse

Milo Yiannopolis rallies LGBT to Donald Trump’s cause by burning a rainbow flag.

That oughta work… .

wonkette.com

My main wingnut friend keeps re-posting Milo’s drivel, so I’m constantly exposed to it. I keep blocking it.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:55:27pm

re: #89 Anymouse

Milo Yiannopolis rallies LGBT to Donald Trump’s cause by burning a rainbow flag.

That oughta work… .

wonkette.com

+1 for any link to a Wonkette article that starts with “Fatuous sparkleturd and Breitbart scribe Milo Yiannopoulos”

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:55:54pm

re: #97 Reality Based Steve

Prayers headed your way.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:56:03pm

I’ve met the guy in this video being spread by righties and never say die Bernies. He’s certifiable, and no doubt has been.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:56:26pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:56:45pm

Ohio!?!?! That is encouraging.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:57:10pm

re: #97 Reality Based Steve

You got it friend!

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:57:55pm

re: #97 Reality Based Steve

Horrible news, prayer sent.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:58:23pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:58:32pm

Here’s the thing - we shouldn’t even need to debunk idiotic garbage like #SpiritCooking. The kind of people who believe this far right religious nonsense won’t be convinced by logical arguments. They’re not thinking logically.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:58:44pm

re: #105 b.d.

As a reminder, every World Series game LeBron James attended in the World Series, the Cleveland Indians lost.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:59:17pm

re: #108 Ziggy_TARDIS

Deport her. //

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Ian G.  Nov 4, 2016 • 6:59:50pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest they weren’t people who changed their minds about voting for Hillary over this, either.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:00:14pm

re: #103 De Kolta Chair

“EXIT POLLS!”

And we’re done here.

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:00:33pm

re: #110 Anymouse

As a reminder, every World Series game LeBron James attended in the World Series, the Cleveland Indians lost.

I wonder if Hillary will take him to Miami for a rally too?

//

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:01:22pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:02:11pm

Good lord, 20/20 doing a story tonight on Chandra Levy.

I remember that being all over the headlines before 9/11.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:02:18pm

re: #110 Anymouse

As a reminder, ever game LeBron James attended in the World Series, the Cleveland Indians lost.

There is no plausible cause for the Cleveland Indians to do better with LeBron James in attendance than not.

However, once can reasonably expect it to be useful for LeBron James to participate in an HRC campaign event in Cleveland.

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:02:55pm
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:04:11pm

re: #115 Kragar

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Well it’s obvious that he meant that he saw it on TV. Checkmate Libtard!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:04:44pm
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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:05:00pm
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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:06:03pm

Maher’s on fire tonight.

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EPR-radar  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:06:34pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

I’m getting older, and my memory isn’t what it used to be. Instead of remembering all of Trump’s lies, I will remember the occasions where Trump told the truth.

Since Trump has never once told the truth about anything, ever, this is very easy.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:06:35pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:07:28pm

So, another block trigger…

The Bluehand movement was an online (specifically Twitter based) protest group formed in January 2014 by an anonymous user using the pseudonym James Bond. The purpose of the group was to protest against what they perceived as excessive political correctness and the islamification of the western world. They identified themselves by the use of Avatars featuring the Bluehand logo and tweets using the #Bluehand and #BluehandFamily hashtags.
Expansion
As the group grew and added members the posts and viewpoints became focused more specifically on their protests against Muslims.
This, along with anti-semitic material and threatening messages, led to several high profile members being suspended from Twitter for breaking Terms of Service.
Takeover
This change to a targeted attack on minority groups attracted the attention of Antifascist organisations, as well as the Anti-Islamophobia charity Tell Mama UK.
In July 2016 members of these groups decided to silence the Bluehand group, by hijacking the use of the #Bluehand tag to promote peace, love and equality. Calling themselves NewBluehand this group post messages of support and tolerance. They have been publicly endorsed by Tell Mama UK for the work they do in promoting equality and opposing discrimination.

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Thanos  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:08:50pm

It’s funny watching everyone second guess campaign stops in these final days as people try to handicap the presidential race, but most of Hillary’s stops the past week have really been about securing the Senate,

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Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:09:17pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:10:12pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:11:13pm

re: #128 No Country For Old Haters

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Witch Village - Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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Nyet  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:12:11pm

Behold a person who doesn’t know what voter fraud is.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:12:13pm

re: #117 EPR-radar

There is no plausible cause for the Cleveland Indians to do better with LeBron James in attendance than not.

However, once can reasonably expect it to be useful for LeBron James to participate in an HRC campaign event in Cleveland.

Just noting one of the useless statistics that WSCR pointed out at the end of Game Seven … LeBron James attended four World Series Games, Cleveland lost all four.

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bratwurst  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:13:19pm

It’s pearl clutching time!

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:13:36pm

I hear Hillary turned Gingrich into a newt, but he didn’t get better.

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:14:49pm

ICYMI, a bunch of #NeverTrump types released a documentary about Trump’s rise in the GOP:

The Sociopath

The denial on display is hilarious, because they treat his rise as an aberration that came after the Tea Party. They utterly fail to acknowledge that Trump is the end result of 40+ years of openly pandering to the stupid, the inbred, the bigots, and the religious nutcases to win elections.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:15:05pm

re: #132 bratwurst

Yeah because no one has ever said anything vulgar or obscene at a Trump rally…

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:15:05pm

re: #133 Single-handed sailor

I hear Hillary turned Gingrich into a newt, but he didn’t get better.

One is a slimy creature that eats worms and crawls on all fours. The other is a pretty cute amphibian.

RBS
I had to double check to make sure they were Amphibians and not Reptiles

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:17:18pm

re: #115 Kragar

Just goes to show Trump has excellent eyesight and foresight!!11!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:17:21pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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KGxvi  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:18:01pm

re: #34 Anymouse

That brings up the idea that Constitutional Amendments are darn near impossible to pass now.

It also brings up again the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement being ushered into law in several states. (Interstate compacts are constitutional). The law as written and proposed to various states says that when 270 electoral votes worth of states enter the compact, they will all instruct their electors to vote the same way (for the person who wins the popular vote).

This makes small states (such as Wyoming or Nebraska) just as important as large states (such as California or New York) if the compact comes into force. All votes then become equal, and the states that are marginalised are the ones which are not in the compact. (Becoming an incentive to join it.)

Campaigning would then be across all states rather than just a few swing states. It would also render the Electoral College moot, since compact members would vote as a bloc for the popular vote winner.

Small and large states, Republican and Democratic controlled have joined the Compact, with more states considering the legislation.

Not sure it really benefits small states. Los Angeles county has 10 million people, that’s basically North Carolina. A purely popular vote would see the vast majority of resources committed to major population centers because not only are more people there, but the marginal cost of individual votes would be lower.

I’m rather indifferent about the electoral college as it exists. It’s a less than ideal system, but like most the rest of our constitution it is the result of a compromise. I’m not sure we’d get a better result today if we started over.

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Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:18:16pm

re: #132 bratwurst

It’s pearl clutching time!

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:20:58pm
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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:22:14pm
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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:23:04pm
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:23:32pm

Roz Chast

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:23:39pm

Taped interview on Real Time
Bill is being a good boy, so far.
Good interview by the President, in my view
Supposed to be an extended interview on Real Times youtube channel

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:24:07pm

Whoa.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:24:20pm

Thing about this Spirit Cooking kerfuffle: All the superstitious fundies who buy into this are already in the Trump basket. Everyone else is likely to see it as definitive proof that the Republicans are either batshit crazy or utterly depraved.

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:24:45pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

Taped interview on Real Time
Bill is being a good boy, so far.
Good interview by the President, in my view
Supposed to be an extended interview on Real Times youtube channel

I am going to miss President Obama.

“If I watched FoxNews I wouldn’t have voted for me either.”

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:25:07pm

re: #139 KGxvi

Not sure it really benefits small states. Los Angeles county has 10 million people, that’s basically North Carolina. A purely popular vote would see the vast majority of resources committed to major population centers because not only are more people there, but the marginal cost of individual votes would be lower.

I’m rather indifferent about the electoral college as it exists. It’s a less than ideal system, but like most the rest of our constitution it is the result of a compromise. I’m not sure we’d get a better result today if we started over.

I suppose you could make all sorts of arguments in favour or opposed; I don’t know it would be better or worse, just an interesting idea.

I would also note for the cost of a TV ad in Los Angeles, you can advertise here in ND, SD, NE, and WY, getting about the same population for less money.

As for the Constitution itself, it changes nothing about the Constitution: electoral votes are determined by state legislatures (that would not change). Interstate compacts are already protected by the Constitution.

A conservative alternative to how the Electoral College works is to repeal the amendment that puts senators in the hands of popular votes. (That ain’t going nowhere, but they float the idea occasionally.)

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:25:12pm

re: #147 Shiplord Kirel

Everyone else is likely to see it as definitive proof that the Republicans are either batshit crazy or utterly depraved.

Why choose? I think it makes them both. :)

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:26:23pm

re: #142 Lidane

Georgia Security Force? Is this a legally-constituted state militia? You know, one of those outlined in the Constitution? /s

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KGxvi  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:26:27pm

re: #146 Lidane

I’m starting to get this feeling like we are going to be very surprised by the results Tuesday night

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:26:30pm

re: #146 Lidane

Whoa.

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mmmirele  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:26:58pm

re: #108 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Not a surprise to me, but I do like that Julia Ioffe posted it to her Twitter. Melania threatened to sue Ioffe for something or another. Good to see Ioffe isn’t scared.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:28:02pm

re: #153 De Kolta Chair

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Clinton throwing gang signs. /s

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:28:20pm

re: #148 b.d.

I am going to miss President Obama.

“If I watched FoxNews I wouldn’t have voted for me either.”

And again I note, there is no way in hell I believe that Trump possesses the competencies to conduct a similar interview, not even caring if I don’t agree with his beliefs and opinions

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:28:24pm
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KGxvi  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:31:22pm

re: #149 Anymouse

It is an interesting idea. And honestly I’m not sure what the results would be (I suspect there would be a lot more GOTV resources spent in high population areas). I’m also skeptical that it’ll ever actually happen - if 2000’s clusterfuck wasn’t enough to get enough states to buy in, I don’t know what will be

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:31:58pm
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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:32:22pm

Maher would have a great panel if weren’t for David fucking Frum.

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:33:19pm

re: #160 BeachDem

Maher would have a great panel if weren’t for David fucking Frum.

Frum is a tool, but he’s on record saying he voted for Hillary and he laid out a conservative case for voting Clinton.

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:34:42pm

re: #159 Kragar

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Funny how all of these people who say that they will revolt if HRC wins are now suddenly OK with Obama currently being POTUS, I am old enough to remember when that was the worst thing in the world.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:36:27pm

re: #160 BeachDem

Maher would have a great panel if weren’t for David fucking Frum.

He usually has on worse. Oy vey.

I liked Martin Short’s jibe to Maher, “It’s a comedy show!”

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:37:58pm

Bill Maher: “Hitler was elected…”

Really, Bill?

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:39:06pm

re: #161 Lidane

Frum is a tool, but he’s on record saying he voted for Hillary and he laid out a conservative case for voting Clinton.

He’s still an asshole, and is defending “sane” Republicans—which leads back to my theory that David Frum has never actually met a Republican in its natural habitat.

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:40:03pm

re: #163 De Kolta Chair

He usually has on worse. Oy vey.

I liked Martin Short’s jibe to Maher, “It’s a comedy show!”

I liked it that Maher admitted he’d been drinking before the show—and I believe him.

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:40:42pm

re: #165 BeachDem

He’s still an asshole, and is defending “sane” Republicans—which leads back to my theory that David Frum has never actually met a Republican in its natural habitat.

No argument there. I’m not a fan of his, but at least he had enough self-awareness to refuse to vote Trump.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:41:36pm
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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:41:58pm

I can only tolerate Frum because I LOVE Jennifer Granholm and Martin Short. Oh, Frum is now defending “Clinton Cash.” Shoot me now.

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dangerman  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:43:12pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

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They want to be told what to think
He tells them
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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:43:52pm

Kind of ironic that the whole panel was born in Canada.

BTW—where is everybody??

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Archangelus  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:44:04pm

Rawstory: Trump Child Rape Accuser Dismisses Lawsuit, Cites “Living in Fear”

A woman who accused Republican nominee Donald Trump of raping her when she was 13 years old has officially dismissed her own lawsuit, Jezebel reports.

The accuser, who has used the pseudonym’s “Jane Doe” and “Katie Johnson” claimed that Trump raped her in 1994. She first filed a lawsuit against the real estate mogul in California last year, and re-filed it in New York in June.

Doe was scheduled to come forward on November 2 at a press conference with attorney Lisa Bloom but cancelled the event abruptly, citing that “she’s too afraid to show her face,” and is “living in fear.”

You just know the deplorables will be doing a victory dance tonight…

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dell*nix  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:44:24pm

re: #97 Reality Based Steve

Got it.

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:44:44pm

A friend on FB posted this story from the WSJ: National Enquirer Shielded Donald Trump From Playboy Model’s Affair Allegation

The company that owns the National Enquirer, a backer of Donald Trump, agreed to pay $150,000 to a former Playboy centerfold model for her story of an affair a decade ago with the Republican presidential nominee, but then didn’t publish it, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal and people familiar with the matter.

The tabloid-newspaper publisher reached an agreement in early August with Karen McDougal, the 1998 Playmate of the Year. American Media Inc., which owns the Enquirer, hasn’t published anything about what she has told friends was a consensual romantic relationship she had with Mr. Trump in 2006. At the time, Mr. Trump was married to his current wife, Melania.

Quashing stories that way is known in the tabloid world as “catch and kill.”

Trump’s BFF at the Enquirer being, umm, helpful.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:45:14pm

As usual, David Frum thinks it’s all about him. Just turn off his mic or skip to the new rules, Bill.

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scottslemmons  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:46:06pm

re: #147 Shiplord Kirel

Thing about this Spirit Cooking kerfuffle: All the superstitious fundies who buy into this are already in the Trump basket. Everyone else is likely to see it as definitive proof that the Republicans are either batshit crazy or utterly depraved.

For that reason alone, I’ve got my fingers crossed that Rudy will be all over the Sunday shows blathering about Satanism and bondage spaghetti. I want as many people as possible saying, “Holy shit, all these people are completely insane. I better be damn sure I vote against them.”

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:46:56pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

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Trump voters *want* him to lie to them. They know he’s lying, and they love it. It’s a twisted masochistic relationship.

The fully expect him to leave the money on the dresser and to respect them in the morning.

RBS

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:47:22pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Just gonna stand there and watch me burn
But that’s alright, because I like the way it hurts
Just gonna stand there and hear me cry
But that’s alright, because I love the way you lie
I love the way you lie

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:47:42pm

I think Maher is either really drunk or he’s having a breakdown on the air.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:47:53pm

re: #176 scottslemmons

For that reason alone, I’ve got my fingers crossed that Rudy will be all over the Sunday shows blathering about Satanism and bondage spaghetti. I want as many people as possible saying, “Holy shit, all these people are completely insane. I better be damn sure I vote against them.”

One wonders how many people would hear that and say “dayum, that makes perfect sense, I need to get to the polls and vote for Mr. Trump.”

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:48:24pm

re: #179 BeachDem

I think Maher is either really drunk or he’s having a breakdown on the air.

Both.

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:49:11pm

Go Jennifer!!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:49:33pm

re: #146 Lidane

Whoa.

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Looking at what is trending to be a HUGE uptick on the number of voters in Texas participating in the 2016 election, as well as polling during the last month that has shown Hillary Clinton within single digits (including a few polls that actually had her within the margin of error), I’m wondering if her campaign had decided to actively campaign here (ie campaign rallies, local advertisments) if she could have conceivably flipped Texas to the blue column. There is every indication that the state was within reach, and honestly would have been a much bigger prize than that of Arizona, where there was a much more focused ground game.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:50:46pm

re: #171 BeachDem

BTW—where is everybody??

Fixin’ up dinner. Marinated chicken breast fried in a pan, rice pilaf, green beans.

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Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:52:29pm
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:53:18pm

Note to Bill Maher: would it have hurt to have invited someone under 50 on tonight’s show instead of asking David Frum and his dusty toupee on?

End of rant.

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KGxvi  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:54:41pm

re: #183 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Events and ads might have drawn too much attention. There’s something to be said for winning with ground game under the radar. Especially in a state where there are no big down ballot races, Arizona has a senate race that would be a really nice pick up and Sherrif Apario potentially getting kicked to the curb

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:55:22pm
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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:57:20pm

Now time for Tracey Ullman. She is truly amazing.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:59:11pm

Dan Savage zeros in on Trump’s misogyny: ‘If gay was a choice’ — Trump would choose sex with men (Goes to Raw Story)

More at the link above, but this stands out from Mr. Savage to me:

“I’ve never really said this out loud before, so forgive me if I say this in an inarticulate way, but I’ve encountered over my life straight guys who hated women so much that you could almost sense that if gay was a choice, they would make it,” Savage said.

These misogynist men hate the power female sexuality holds over them, Savage said.

“They’re condemned to sit with both their hatred and disgust with women and their fear of women’s bodies and their insecurity and their need for them, their desire for them, because they are who they are sexually attracted to, and the cognitive dissonance that can produce — you see those guys who are much more comfortable in the company of men, but they need this thing,” Savage said. “They need this woman, and they need her as an object, they can’t see her as a human being, or see them as human beings.”

Savage said he’s known gay men who remind him of woman-hating Trump.

“Is Trump gay? I don’t think Trump is gay, but Trump would be a messy, misogynistic gay man if he were a gay man,” Savage said. “He might be happier, because then he wouldn’t have to interact with women at all, ever.”

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b.d.  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:59:16pm

Bill Maher was drunk and pissed, which is fine for me as a viewer but not so great being the host of a comedy show.

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BeachDem  Nov 4, 2016 • 7:59:56pm

re: #188 FormerDirtDart

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SC doesn’t have early voting. (In person absentee with a reason but no actual early voting)

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:01:27pm
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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:03:48pm

re: #193 De Kolta Chair

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Donnie is just never going to be the popular guy. Never has been. It eats him alive, I imagine.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:04:21pm

Heh

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mmmirele  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:06:13pm

Update from boyfriend: it was 3 hours, 5 minutes in line to vote at the Tempe library.

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Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:07:22pm
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:08:16pm
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No Depression  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:11:40pm

Wow, Hillary really will be a third Obama term!

Obama: ‘Help Us Destroy Jesus And Start A New Age Of Liberal Darkness’

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Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:11:53pm
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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:12:29pm

All this glorious GOTV news is making my Ben & Jerry’s Cherry Garcia even more delicious. If that’s possible. Nom.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:13:53pm

Election result page now up for Nebraska (okay, so I am the only person here that cares about Nebraska, sue me):

sos.ne.gov

Polls are open 8 a.m. CDT (7 a.m. MDT) to 8 p.m. CDT (7 p.m. MDT)
The first results will be reported at 8 p.m. CDT and updated every five minutes.

Total voters in my county in 2014. There are no statistics for mail-in ballots posted until the polls close in Nebraska:

Morrill
9 Precincts
2099 Republican
623 Democratic
527 Nonpartisan
19 Libertarian
3268 Total

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:15:19pm

re: #202 Anymouse

The population of your county would be considerably higher if they counted the migrating birds…

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:16:14pm

re: #203 freetoken

The population of your county would be considerably higher if they counted the migrating birds…

We have far more illegal immigrant Canada geese than people. We have half a million head of cattle.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:17:00pm
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compound_Idaho  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:17:38pm

I was going to post this on Facebook, but decided to dump it here instead.

2017 ACA enrollment is now open. My premium is up 32% for next year. The local hospital (EIRMC) is no longer covered by private Blue Cross plans. The U of Utah Hospital system out of plan now too. (or 100K deductible)

Met with my health insurance agent yesterday. His opinion is that the whole system is now rapidly circling the drain. Those that pay for their own insurance already know. Hillary and those that have government jobs, government subsidized care, or employer provided care think we can work this out. I wish it were true.

The agent’s advise was to have a plan to get through the next couple of years. Premiums will double again. After that, the stuff will have hit the fan. It will no longer matter. His best advice is to reduce income to qualify for subsidies. Really? Is that all you have ….buy an King Ranch? I kind of like that idea. I have never owned a new vehicle.

This is where we are. Show a loss (AKA Trump) to qualify for ACA subsidies (AKA Hillary). I now pay $25K a year in premiums and deductible for free birth control or a sex change. Should I go for the King Ranch or the sex change? If I get the King Ranch, I definitely won’t need the sex change. Nah, I’m sticking with my 2007 F150 with 250K+ miles. I’m getting old, but I still kind of like the idea of being a guy. If the truck breaks down, I will run the rest of the way. If the junk breaks down ?????????????

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:19:06pm

That “nineteen Libertarian” is misleading. One of them was my wife. She left the Libertarian Party and joined the Democratic Party. It should now be “eighteen Libertarian” unless someone new moved in.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:19:10pm

re: #202 Anymouse

Nebraska… it’s a long drive across the state. One great grandparent was born there. Omaha way back in the day had a radio station that was widely listened (I remember picking it up on the radio), I forget it’s call name. I want to say WOW but that call has been passed around, I think.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:24:20pm

re: #206 compound_Idaho

We can work this out.

Insurance premiums have always risen; the ACA is not the cause of this.

The cause is insurance companies that provide no benefit in health care, but skim profit between the provider and the patient.

Insurance companies are the literal death panels Sarah “I get my healthcare in socialised Yukon” Palin was talking about.

The solution is if insurance companies can’t be satisfied with the profit they already make, then the government enters into competition with single-payer healthcare. Both Libertarians and Conservatives are always on about competition with government to improve service. You know what? Right up until the time the government calls their bluff and says “OK.”

My wife fell when we were on vacation in Michigan and Canada this summer. Had to go to the emergency room in Michigan. X-rays, two docs, pharmacy, total bill $32 (thanks to Tricare).

If insurance companies cannot survive on the obscene profits they already make, they deserve the invisible hand of the government to smack them out of the business of deciding who lives and who dies based on who is rich enough to pay them.

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:24:31pm

re: #206 compound_Idaho

WTF?

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:25:04pm
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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:26:09pm

re: #206 compound_Idaho

I now pay $25K a year in premiums and deductible for free birth control or a sex change.

Oh foo, you know that’s not even remotely possibly true.

Your insurance rates are going up because health care costs are going up and more people are being covered who need subsidies.

employer provided care think we can work this out.

The cost of health care has always been paid one way or another. You can pay more for widgets so that the maker of widgets get health care, or you can pay less for widgets and the makers of widgets either don’t get health care or use their incomes to buy healthcare instead of buying gadgets.

If they do the latter, the gadget makers go out of business and then the gadget makers can’t afford healthcare.

If only as a society we would accept that if our goal is to have members of our society all get the care that is required, our economy will non-trivially be committed to the project.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:26:40pm

re: #208 freetoken

Nebraska… it’s a long drive across the state. One great grandparent was born there. Omaha way back in the day had a radio station that was widely listened (I remember picking it up on the radio), I forget it’s call name. I want to say WOW but that call has been passed around, I think.

WOW has changed its call letters to KXSP, however it is the same station, still in Omaha.

Nebraska is seven hundred miles from the NW corner to the SE corner.

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William Lewis  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:27:38pm

re: #206 compound_Idaho

It’s a very simple fix. Single payer. Get greed and profit out of the medical system.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:27:45pm

re: #213 Anymouse

“WOW” must have been a call sign someone else wanted for a lot of money.

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ipsos  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:28:52pm

re: #215 freetoken

“WOW” must have been a call sign someone else wanted for a lot of money.

Amazingly, no. The owners simply gave it up.

(Three-letter callsigns can be moved from station to station by the same owner in a market, but they can’t be sold to anyone else, and the FCC isn’t granting new ones.)

There is still a WOWT in Omaha, which was WOW’s former sister TV station.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:29:24pm

re: #215 freetoken

“WOW” must have been a call sign someone else wanted for a lot of money.

Could be.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:29:33pm

Back in the old days of AM radio, I could follow the call signs westward:

WABC in NY
WLW in Chicago
WHO in Des Moines
WOW in Omaha

….

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philosophus invidius  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:30:46pm

Update from Nevada early voting.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:31:12pm
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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:32:32pm

re: #219 philosophus invidius

Must be all those Latinos who love Drumpfskdind….

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:33:16pm

re: #218 freetoken

Back in the old days of AM radio, I could follow the call signs westward:

WABC in NY
WLW in Chicago
WHO in Des Moines
WOW in Omaha

….

Don’t forget WSM in Nashville, the original home of the Grand Old Opry. “.

For most of its history, WSM was owned by the Nashville-based National Life and Accident Insurance Company, along with WSM-TV, and the Grand Ole Opry. The stations’ call letters derived from the company’s motto, “We Shield Millions”.

RBS

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bratwurst  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:33:21pm

re: #206 compound_Idaho

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:33:52pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:35:25pm

re: #219 philosophus invidius

Looks like Nevada has joined the Western Wall, to join Washington, Oregon, California, and Hawaii.

Which is now 81 EVs.

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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:36:23pm

re: #222 Reality Based Steve

I never really listen to WSM much. When the sun started to set, with a good radio I could pick up WABC in NY, then later on KABC in Los Angeles.

KMOX was another easy to pick up station at times.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:38:42pm

re: #222 Reality Based Steve

Don’t forget WSM in Nashville, the original home of the Grand Old Opry. “.

RBS

Or CKLW, the Detroit station in Windsor that you could pick up from Pittsburgh to St. Louis.

It is best known for having been one of the most influential Top 40 stations in the world in the 1960s and 1970s. During this era, CKLW used a very tight Top 40 format known as Boss Radio, devised by radio programmer Bill Drake. However, CKLW never actually used the handle “boss” on the air, just the style. Rather than a “Boss 30”, CKLW’s weekly music survey was known as a “Big 30”. And instead of calling itself “Boss Radio”, CKLW called itself “The Big 8”. During this period it was the top-rated radio station not only in Windsor, but across the river in Detroit, and even in cities as far away as Toledo and Cleveland in Ohio.

In its current incarnation, CKLW is a news/talk radio station primarily serving listeners in Windsor and Essex County in Ontario, Canada, with a mix of local and syndicated programs, including some programs from the United States.

en.wikipedia.org

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whitebeach  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:39:43pm

re: #219 philosophus invidius

Update from Nevada early voting.

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Wow, look at all those Trump caps. We’re doomed, doomed, I tell ya.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:40:26pm

re: #223 bratwurst

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I don’t feel like responding to the troll but my insurance agent told us on our company wide call that the rates went up because Obamacare required covering children’s dental. Several of our people called bullshit.

The insurance companies are continuing their march to bigger and bigger profits and blaming Obamacare when it’s their greed that’s raising prices.

Could this be fixed? Sure, if republicans ever decided to do their FUCKING jobs.

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:42:09pm
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:42:29pm

I remember when I did a lot of late driving in Missouri. I remember this station out of Lousianna, a religious station run by something like “The Four Peas in a Pod, Don’t Fiddle with the Bible Full Gospel Brotherhood” (I many be mis-remembering for dramatic effect). I learned that Catholics, Mormons, Jews, Pagan (which was pretty much everybody else) were all doomed to hell.

On a technical note, I’ve noticed that the AM radios in my recent vehicles don’t hold a candle to the ones back in the old days. Anybody have a good reason for that?

RBS

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:44:13pm

Good thing I increased my weed budget by 30% recently.re: #206 compound_Idaho

I was going to post this on Facebook, but decided to dump it here instead.

2017 ACA enrollment is now open. My premium is up 32% for next year. The local hospital (EIRMC) is no longer covered by private Blue Cross plans. The U of Utah Hospital system out of plan now too. (or 100K deductible)

Met with my health insurance agent yesterday. His opinion is that the whole system is now rapidly circling the drain. Those that pay for their own insurance already know. Hillary and those that have government jobs, government subsidized care, or employer provided care think we can work this out. I wish it were true.

The agent’s advise was to have a plan to get through the next couple of years. Premiums will double again. After that, the stuff will have hit the fan. It will no longer matter. His best advice is to reduce income to qualify for subsidies. Really? Is that all you have ….buy an King Ranch? I kind of like that idea. I have never owned a new vehicle.

This is where we are. Show a loss (AKA Trump) to qualify for ACA subsidies (AKA Hillary). I now pay $25K a year in premiums and deductible for free birth control or a sex change. Should I go for the King Ranch or the sex change? If I get the King Ranch, I definitely won’t need the sex change. Nah, I’m sticking with my 2007 F150 with 250K+ miles. I’m getting old, but I still kind of like the idea of being a guy. If the truck breaks down, I will run the rest of the way. If the junk breaks down ?????????????

Sucks to live in Idaho. I pay $400 a month for silver plan. My cost dropped $100 because my daughter’s UC Berkeley tuition.

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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:44:17pm
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electrotek  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:44:39pm
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freetoken  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:46:26pm

re: #231 Reality Based Steve

On a technical note, I’ve noticed that the AM radios in my recent vehicles don’t hold a candle to the ones back in the old days. Anybody have a good reason for that?

RBS

We had an early 60’s Galaxy 500 and the radio was quite impressive. I think back then the advantage of having a much quieter environment (RF wise) perhaps let us tune in stations with less noise.

I am not sure for what goals digital tuning today is designed. Radios rarely come with antennae designed for AM - old radios had large loops inside or polls outside.

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:46:27pm

re: #226 freetoken

I never really listen to WSM much. When the sun started to set, with a good radio I could pick up WABC in NY, then later on KABC in Los Angeles.

KMOX was another easy to pick up station at times.

When I was a kid in Philly, I used to listen to CKLW out of Canada. I cold only get it late at night.

237
Tigger2  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:46:30pm
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whitebeach  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:46:38pm

re: #206 compound_Idaho

I was going to post this on Facebook, but decided to dump it here instead.

Your choice of verbs is revealing. Next time just go with your first choice and put your shit on FB.

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MsJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:47:54pm

re: #237 Tigger2

HOT DIGGITY DOGGY!! 🐶

240
Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:48:07pm

re: #221 freetoken

Must be all those Latinos who love Drumpfskdind….

Must be all those Latinos former Ariz. Governor Jan Brewer said could never be bothered to vote.

241
Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:49:05pm

re: #227 Anymouse

I gre up listening to “The Big 8”. Got my first transistor radio and kistened to them and WKNR, “Keener 13”. Good days. Never forgot Byron MacGregor “20/20 News” and his great recording of Gordon Sinclair’s “The Americans”, which became a #4 hit on Billbaord in 1974.

Something the older Trumpkins have probably forgotten and need to be reminded about…..

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:49:16pm

re: #231 Reality Based Steve

On a technical note, I’ve noticed that the AM radios in my recent vehicles don’t hold a candle to the ones back in the old days. Anybody have a good reason for that?

RBS

Do your recent vehicles have a whip antenna or one embedded in the windshield? Reception is better with an old fashioned whip antenna, but designers have eliminated them for aesthetic and aerodynamic reasons. Plus, receiver manufacturers put all the tech on the FM/stereo side and probably give AM short-shrift, because cleaning up AM sound quality is almost pointless.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:50:29pm

re: #235 freetoken

We had an early 60’s Galaxy 500 and the radio was quite impressive. I think back then the advantage of having a much quieter environment (RF wise) perhaps let us tune in stations with less noise.

I am not sure for what goals digital tuning today is designed. Radios rarely come with antennae designed for AM - old radios had large loops inside or polls outside.

My folks had one of those, had totally forgotten about it until you just mentioned it. Candy Apple Red Galaxy 500 Convertible

Not their ACTUAL car, but that’s what it was like
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jaunte  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:51:36pm
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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:51:51pm

re: #236 makeitstop

When I was a kid in Philly, I used to listen to CKLW out of Canada. I cold only get it late at night.

When I was a kid in Michigan, I used to listen to CHYR from Leamington, Ontario (top 40 with some other stuff thrown in, I would tune out when they went to the Ukranian language programming). Also listened to the local radio station in Alma, WFYC, with the power of a night light. They were (still are) a mostly-agricultural station with a whole lot of different music styles thrown in.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:52:48pm

re: #242 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

AM receiver design hasn’t changed in quite a while-if you’re lucky your car might have HD Audio support for AM/FM, but that’s about as good as you’re going to get for OTA reception these days-these days it’s all about SiriusXM/Bluetooth/wireless connectivity.

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:53:41pm

re: #244 jaunte

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Whoa! At least we were all inside the building when I was there to vote this morning.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:55:24pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:58:55pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

Trump’s continual attacks on Hispanic people has had the desired effect. /s

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Interesting Times  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:59:01pm

re: #247 allegro

Whoa! At least we were all inside the building when I was there to vote this morning.

That’s your precinct? Any idea of the approx. D vs R registration? (i.e trying to figure out if the long line is good for us, or tangerine tyrant)

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Lidane  Nov 4, 2016 • 8:59:48pm

re: #237 Tigger2

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:00:09pm

re: #246 Eric The Fruit Bat

AM receiver design hasn’t changed in quite a while-if you’re lucky your car might have HD Audio support for AM/FM, but that’s about as good as you’re going to get for OTA reception these days-these days it’s all about SiriusXM/Bluetooth/wireless connectivity.

My car actually has a very good AM receiver (must be German engineering or something). The owner’s manual for my Smart car specifically notes they have a separate AM loop antenna built in to the bloody dashboard in addition to the whip antenna for the FM radio.

That means in the daytime I can pick up AM stations in Denver (two hundred miles away).

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CarolJ  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:00:10pm

Looks like Trump has lost Nevada. If the same thing happens with Arizona, the entire West Coast and nearby states are lost. What does that mean? Only the empty states in the West will Trump carry. And in Alaska, it looks pretty close, with Hillary ahead. Now it’s too small a state and too far away for Hillary to deal with, but it looks like it’s on the same trend as the lower Western states, more migrants, possibly more immigrants.

What do you do if you are a party that in the Presidential race can only carry states with low population? Sure, you hold Senate seats and Gubernatorial races, but it’s hard to attract ambitious types if there isn’t a real way to go higher than Senate from time to time.

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Brian J.  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:00:32pm

Nate Hydrogen and one of his flunkies:

“What are they doing here?”
“… They’re selling, Mortimer!”
“Why, that’s ridiculous! Unless that crop report…”
“GOD HELP US!” (H/T Trading Places)

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austin_blue  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:03:05pm

I know everyone is going apeshit at this point.

Here’s a couple of musical interludes, two of the most beautiful pieces of art that I know of.

This is for Ziggy and SteelPH.

Just breathe, please, and take a moment.

First, Adonai, from Bernstein’s Chichester Psalms:

Chichester Psalms - Leonard Bernstein

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allegro  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:09:32pm

re: #250 Interesting Times

That’s your precinct? Any idea of the approx. D vs R registration? (i.e trying to figure out if the long line is good for us, or tangerine tyrant)

Yes. I don’t know the D v R registrations but I can say that this is a heavily minority area. Also very Jewish being in the Meyerland area. Just a rough guesstimate of what I saw standing in line just over an hour today was maybe 10 - 15% white. I would say that this is VERY good for us.

I still say that Hillary can take Texas.

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Anymouse  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:10:40pm

re: #256 allegro

Yes. I don’t know the D v R registrations but I can say that this is a heavily minority area. Also very Jewish being in the Meyerland area. Just a rough guesstimate of what I saw standing in line just over an hour today was maybe 10 - 15% white. I would say that this is VERY good for us.

I still say that Hillary can take Texas.

Well, I talked my brother-in-law out of the “both sides are equally evil” nonsense, and he went out and cast a vote for Hillary Clinton in Texas.

That’s one.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:13:17pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

From Steve Schale, it looks like the Puerto Ricans in particular are hurting Trump in Florida.

Also, apparently the people turning out now are the low-propensity voters! It looks like we may be much closer to the RV models than the LV models.

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makeitstop  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:25:19pm

re: #245 Anymouse

When I was a kid in Michigan, I used to listen to CHYR from Leamington, Ontario (top 40 with some other stuff thrown in, I would tune out when they went to the Ukranian language programming). Also listened to the local radio station in Alma, WFYC, with the power of a night light. They were (still are) a mostly-agricultural station with a whole lot of different music styles thrown in.

Now that I think of it, we used to be able to get WLS out of Chicago at night, too.

260
Joe Bacon  Nov 4, 2016 • 9:37:26pm

re: #206 compound_Idaho

I was going to post this on Facebook, but decided to dump it here instead.

2017 ACA enrollment is now open. My premium is up 32% for next year. The local hospital (EIRMC) is no longer covered by private Blue Cross plans. The U of Utah Hospital system out of plan now too. (or 100K deductible)

Met with my health insurance agent yesterday. His opinion is that the whole system is now rapidly circling the drain. Those that pay for their own insurance already know. Hillary and those that have government jobs, government subsidized care, or employer provided care think we can work this out. I wish it were true.

The agent’s advise was to have a plan to get through the next couple of years. Premiums will double again. After that, the stuff will have hit the fan. It will no longer matter. His best advice is to reduce income to qualify for subsidies. Really? Is that all you have ….buy an King Ranch? I kind of like that idea. I have never owned a new vehicle.

This is where we are. Show a loss (AKA Trump) to qualify for ACA subsidies (AKA Hillary). I now pay $25K a year in premiums and deductible for free birth control or a sex change. Should I go for the King Ranch or the sex change? If I get the King Ranch, I definitely won’t need the sex change. Nah, I’m sticking with my 2007 F150 with 250K+ miles. I’m getting old, but I still kind of like the idea of being a guy. If the truck breaks down, I will run the rest of the way. If the junk breaks down ?????????????

The next step to fix the ACA—Open Medicare to everyone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2016 • 7:07:09am

re: #206 compound_Idaho

I was going to post this on Facebook, but decided to dump it here instead.

2017 ACA enrollment is now open. My premium is up 32% for next year. The local hospital (EIRMC) is no longer covered by private Blue Cross plans. The U of Utah Hospital system out of plan now too. (or 100K deductible)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

262
Citizen Bob  Nov 5, 2016 • 12:47:30pm

So we need a stronger term than “dumpster fire” for this campaign. I’m going with “volcano of radioactive bat shit”.

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cat-tikvah  Nov 5, 2016 • 5:43:47pm

re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White

Took me a minute but I saw what you did there!

Here’s Eddie Izzard on the topic (note: sacrilegious): (1:40)

Eddie Izzard - The Holy Communion


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