Election Night Open Thread 2
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No matter who wins, we’re learning something truly disturbing about our country tonight.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
491 comments
re: #663 Charles Johnson
I still think it comes down to the massive built-in negatives for Hillary.
Once a voter believes something long enough, they are unlikely to change later in life.
Plus, the real problem for the Dems may come down to the lack of turnout of young people. While supposedly overwhelmingly favoring Clinton, I wonder how many could be bothered to vote?
To reiterate from the last thread:
Looking at the electoral map, far too many states let hate, fear, and bigotry win. Yeah, Trump voters, that’s what you wrought & support.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 9, 2016
From last thread:
So, if the Detroit Free-Press is calling MI for Clinton, why isn’t anyone else?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
— endless screaming (@infinite_scream) November 9, 2016
Gotta be honest, I’m really starting to hate this country now.
Yup. We’ve learned there are a lot of white people in this country who will not see the forest for the trees and feel “left behind” or they’re just proud racists.
This election shouldn’t be this close. A plurality of Americans have hate in their heart or are too dumb to realize how dangerous Trump is.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) November 9, 2016
Gutted. Speechless. Shattered.
I feared the worst a couple of weeks back.
Iowa’s back in Hillary’s column, according to the NY Times. One down, two to go (the two being PA and MI).
I think I am going to get a ballot initiative started for California to build a big beautiful wall around the state.
re: #1 freetoken
I still think it comes down to the massive built-in negatives for Hillary.
Once a voter believes something long enough, they are unlikely to change later in life.
Plus, the real problem for the Dems may come down to the lack of turnout of young people. While supposedly overwhelmingly favoring Clinton, I wonder how many could be bothered to vote?
Yeah, what about all those “massive early-voting turnout” stories the news was full of in the last week? All those Latinos and women?
Not “massive” enough, I guess..
I wonder how Romney would have fared four years ago if he was up against Clinton instead of Obama?
re: #10 Brian J.
Iowa’s back in Hillary’s column, according to the NY Times. One down, two to go (the two being PA and MI).
If Iowa goes blue I will plan a vacation there.
The financial markets are freaking out right now as Trump pulls ever closer https://t.co/q8nBmkOKYV
— Vox (@voxdotcom) November 9, 2016
re: #12 Jay C
Yeah, what about all those “massive early-voting turnout” stories the news was full of in the last week? All those Latinos and women?
Not “massive” enough, I guess..
People assumed the early voting was all going to Hillary.
Corgi Chariot is my everything right now
re: #3 boredtechindenver
I’m leaning Trump on Michigan.
Lot’s seems to be happening - could be an hour(ish) before anyone is in a position to make an educated guess
Welp if Trump wins, I hope the liberal utopia of Maryland will mostly be insulated from his Reign of Derp.
re: #11 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I think I am going to get a ballot initiative started for California to build a big beautiful wall around the state.
We’ve got the Cascades—just a few passes to block up. Eastern Washington can join Idaho.
I think people got their hopes up too high based on early voting.
Early voting did not mean more Democrats were voting as much as just time-shifting.
re: #22 freetoken
I think people got their hopes up too high based on early voting.
Early voting did not mean more Democrats were voting as much as just time-shifting.
You’re right.
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— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) November 9, 2016
re: #17 MsJ
Anything on GA?
Still waiting on Cobb, DeKalb, and most of Gwinnett. Hillary’s actually winning Gwinnett by seven points, but they’re just not going to be enough, apparently.
re: #10 Brian J.
Iowa’s back in Hillary’s column, according to the NY Times. One down, two to go (the two being PA and MI).
Oh God… **crossing fingers**
re: #20 No Depression
No one in the world is going to be immune.
The scary thing is even if Clinton wins, Trump has created something here.
Brit Hume saying some NYT thing projecting 91% chance of Trump win.
re: #1 freetoken
Probably true, but I honestly think Bernie’s supporters would have seen a victory by him as justification to expropriate my parents’ home from us.
So we needed Biden in the primary, or all our options were going to be bad, from August 2015.
But I will admit Hillary was the least-bad.
And that Bernie would have been much more electable in the general.
Dow Jones futures down 700 points.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
re: #3 boredtechindenver
From last thread:
So, if the Detroit Free-Press is calling MI for Clinton, why isn’t anyone else?
Being closer to the situation than the national media, the Free Press probably has more confidence that the returns from Wayne County will be massively pro-Hillary.
I wonder how Biden would be faring against Trump right now?
re: #24 Scottishdragon
The GOP will keep the senate.
A possibility. Pre-election polling indicated a 50-50 split, still the most likely outcome.
Hillary would have to have very long coattails to make a big difference in the Senate, and she may have ended up with no coat tails at all.
re: #16 GlutenFreeJesus
People assumed the early voting was all going to Hillary.
No news on Nevada that i’ve seen which is where *a lot* of early voting happened.
She can win Nevada.
There was strong early voting in NC but that doesn’t seem to have done much - or it was outweighed by on the day turn out
re: #16 GlutenFreeJesus
People assumed the early voting was all going to Hillary.
that was my fear. Early vote was huge but that didn’t mean it was going for Hilllary.
Hate and nativism are beating competence, hope and diversity.
This is Brexit taken two orders of magnitude up.
Think about this: Republicans are wreaking havoc on Kansas, and theyou get reelected.
Long time lurker here. I did my part, and voted early in Nevada. On one hand, it’s nice to see that my vote really, really matters this time. But good grief, this is rather closer than I’d like. The hell with Xanax, it’s time for Seroquel!
re: #11 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I think I am going to get a ballot initiative started for California to build a big beautiful wall around the state.
And Trumpico will pay for it!
“I feel embarrassed.” - my 11 year old
— Andy Richter (@AndyRichter) November 9, 2016
And Iowa just slipped back into the Trump column, by quite a bit. Now the three states we need are 1-3 points down.
re: #37 freetoken
A possibility. Pre-election polling indicated a 50-50 split, still the most likely outcome.
Hillary would have to have very long coattails to make a big difference in the Senate, and she may have ended up with no coat tails at all.
Models now giving GOP control north of 80%
re: #1 freetoken
I think this community (and a lot of similar left leaning ones) discounted the hatred for Clinton and also forgot that she could pull defeat from the jaws of victory like no one else. I didn’t matter whether the hatred was fair or not. It was there all along, and whenever Democrats count on turnout to save their asses, they always get burnt.
Even if Clinton manages to pull this out, it feels like one thing has been made eminently clear:
This country is still a mess of racism, misogyny, and xenophobia, and the comfort far too many have in tolerating said phenomenon, if not being gleefully entrenched in them.
re: #33 Chrysicat
The problem, IMO, and it may still remain even though DWS is gone, is that the DNC is out of touch with too many people.
The DNC is not the total evil that the Bernie-Bros make them out to be, but on the other hand they clearly did not encourage a new Dem candidate (without the Clinton baggage) to step up to the plate.
re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg
Brit Hume saying some NYT thing projecting 91% chance of Trump win.
“Based in votes reported so far”
re: #42 alloutofcrazyhere
Welcome. I wish it was under more comfortable circumstances.
re: #45 Brian J.
And Iowa just slipped back into the Trump column, by quite a bit. Now the three states we need are 1-3 points down.
[expletive]
UGGGGGHHHHHH…
re: #35 Shiplord Kirel
Being closer to the situation than the national media, the Free Press probably has more confidence that the returns from Wayne County will be massively pro-Hillary.
You always trust the people closest to the ground. Old style election vote counting at the end of the night had you driving from precinct to precinct to look at the vote totals posted by the election judges.
Modern polling machines and mail-in voting make that harder, so you should trust the people closest on the ground.
re: #47 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
How many times has she lost?
How are people that voted for Trump going to feel if they wake up in a day and find a large portion of the stock market falling and maybe taking some of their money with them?
Hello! Smell the coffee.
You can be a scared white person in America, but there is a whole world out there and right now they are not real impression with your fee fees!
And so, not only will you lose money, those jobs you were fearful that were leaving may pick up pace and never be replace by the international companies that are coming here for the time being. And trade? Trump isn’t going to be getting that back if the world thinks we are withdrawing.
re: #40 Scottishdragon
Hate and nativism are beating competence, hope and diversity.
This is Brexit taken two orders of magnitude up.
Yup.
White people want to close the borders and get rid of minorities.
re: #48 Kryptik: Just Done With It.
Even if Clinton manages to pull this out, it feels like one thing has been made eminently clear:
This country is still a mess of racism, misogyny, and xenophobia, and the comfort far too many have in tolerating said phenomenon, if not being gleefully entrenched in them.
We also have to accept that the Democratic party is a complacent, cowardly, mediocre disaster zone. They’ve coasted for too long rather than learning how to fight hard and smart.
re: #34 Charles Johnson
The Dow will be back to normal within a week. It flopped after Brexit and rebounded. As far as the Dow in one year, well…
re: #60 nickzi
We also have to accept that the Democratic party is a complacent, cowardly, mediocre disaster zone. They’ve coasted for too long rather than learning how to fight hard and smart.
agreed.
FLORIDA
Trump’s current lead: 116,000
Johnson/Stein votes: 248,000
NORTH CAROLINA
Clinton’s current lead: 32,000
Johnson votes: 79,000— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) November 9, 2016
Your protest votes at work. https://t.co/50mnqHKeRK
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) November 9, 2016
Votes have consequences. And voting for the 3d party protest votes has real consequences, and could give the election win to a bigoted creep.
re: #42 alloutofcrazyhere
Long time lurker here. I did my part, and voted early in Nevada. On one hand, it’s nice to see that my vote really, really matter this time. But good grief, this is rather closer than I’d like. The hell with Xanax, it’s time for Seroquel!
Welcome from a fellow Nevadan.
re: #63 lawhawk
“But at least my conscience is clear.”
re: #48 Kryptik: Just Done With It.
Even if Clinton manages to pull this out, it feels like one thing has been made eminently clear:
This country is still a mess of racism, misogyny, and xenophobia, and the comfort far too many have in tolerating said phenomenon, if not being gleefully entrenched in them.
Yep. If Hillary does pull it out we will face a massive terrorism and subversion problem from the right, with the eager helping hand of the Kremlin egging them on.
re: #42 alloutofcrazyhere
Long time lurker here. I did my part, and voted early in Nevada. On one hand, it’s nice to see that my vote really, really matter this time. But good grief, this is rather closer than I’d like. The hell with Xanax, it’s time for Seroquel!
I might need horse tranquilizer in a bit…
re: #63 lawhawk
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Votes have consequences. And voting for the 3d party protest votes has real consequences, and could give the election win to a bigoted creep.
These dipshits just never learn, do they?
I accidentally refreshed my 270towin page and now it’s borked.
re: #67 Myron Falwell (no relation)
I might need horse tranquilizer in a bit…
You and me both, my friend.
25 percent of the votes counted, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio is losing his race for re-election by 10 points. #fox10phoenix pic.twitter.com/Rtlu1FU38M
— Troy Hayden (@troyhaydenfox10) November 9, 2016
538
Harry Enten 10:38 PM
Looking at the map of Wisconsin, Clinton is in big trouble. Much of the vote from Milwaukee is in, and Clinton is still down by nearly 3 percentage points statewide. If Trump wins here, Clinton is in big trouble nationally.
Congrats @amazon: This is the night THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE becomes a sitcom. #ElectionNight
— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) November 9, 2016
re: #57 Belafon
In the 2008 campaign her numbers went down whenever there was an interval between primaries. In PA, conspicuously, she had 4 weeks with no major primaries. She started with a 20 point lead and only won by 8. And in fact, she ultimately lost the 2008 primary campaign when she should have won easily.
re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth
Well at least there is some good news tonight.
CO and VA are two of the 6 needed. Come on PA, WI, MI and NV!!! #mitchfacts
— Mitch Stewart (@Mitch_Stewart) November 9, 2016
Well if Trump wins this, let’s hope the Democrats return the favor of the past 8 years and work tirelessly to obstruct everything Republicans try to accomplish.
Unless Hillary loses Michigan or Wisconsin, I won’t be joining this panic party. Still a LOT of votes to be counted in both.
re: #80 weave
Well if Trump wins this, let’s hope the Democrats return the favor of the past 8 years and work tirelessly to obstruct everything Republicans try to accomplish.
Gonna be hard with GOP majorities in House and Senate.
Time to change my nick.
Never thought that the deciding states would end up being Michigan and Wisconsin.
re: #80 weave
Well if Trump wins this, let’s hope the Democrats return the favor of the past 8 years and work tirelessly to obstruct everything Republicans try to accomplish.
With what? Republicans will control the Senate, House and Presidency? You think the Republican Senate is going to keep the filibuster?
re: #68 No Depression
In their ‘defense’, most of the third-party voters this time around were probably too young to drive, let alone vote, when Nader stole two elections for Dubya.
The problem is, that means that if we don’t have a Chinese-modeled constitution forced on us after losing WWIII, those of us young enough to be around for 2032 will see a third party win for the candidate least in agreement to the third party’s values then, too.
re: #80 weave
Well if Trump wins this, let’s hope the Democrats return the favor of the past 8 years and work tirelessly to obstruct everything Republicans try to accomplish.
If Trump wins this, then with a Republican Congress, the first thing that goes away on Day One is the filibuster. McConnell won’t waste time calling a vote to dismantle it, because the GOP will know that the clock starts counting to the midterms.
re: #80 weave
Well if Trump wins this, let’s hope the Democrats return the favor of the past 8 years and work tirelessly to obstruct everything Republicans try to accomplish.
Zero confidence the Republic would leave the Senate rules intact.
re: #80 weave
Since when have the Democrats showed real backbone? There’s too few with any real guts.
Breaking: Donald Trump wins battleground state of Florida.
Live results: https://t.co/dXVW5YjQlm pic.twitter.com/DWw0qhhGLW— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 9, 2016
FUCK
I may need to upgrade from horse tranquilizers to being slapped upside the head with a ballpeen hammer.
re: #25 gocart mozart
The 1600 guys don’t seem nervous and they would know. It’s calming me down.
We’ll be live here and there throughout the night! Use this link: https://t.co/PmX0MI6Do2
— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) November 9, 2016
Voting 3rd party is a good way to let marginalized groups know that your abstract principles are more important than their very real lives.
— Molly Manglewood (@Manglewood) November 6, 2016
re: #81 bratwurst
Unless Hillary loses Michigan or Wisconsin, I won’t be joining this panic party. Still a LOT of votes to be counted in both.
Don’t count on Michigan.
She needs Pensylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota & Nevada.
Pennsylvania and Michigan are both likely to flip based on tonights trend.
Florida is bsacially gone.
re: #80 weave
Well if Trump wins this, let’s hope the Democrats return the favor of the past 8 years and work tirelessly to obstruct everything Republicans try to accomplish.
The GOP will get rid of filibuster rules in January and then they will run the table to get their program into place for a generation.
No more medicare. No medicaid. The Dept of Education gets slashed. Same with FEMA and a dozen other agencies. Social security becomes a block grant. Vote suppression gets a nationwide boost. Taxes for the rich get slashed to nil.
Muslims get ethnically cleansed…and don’t think for one minute that the congress will try to impeach Trump when he tells federal courts to “Go fuck themselves” .
My new concern is — whoever wins — how we move the country forward.
Trump has done too well, and that means there are a lot more deplorables in this country than I expected. I’m sure the first thing needs to be keeping people safe somehow. The militias will be spending the next few weeks shooting a goddamn lot of people who aren’t straight white Christian males, and I’m damned if I’ve got any clue what can be done to keep them safe.
After that: Then what? I don’t have a job and not much money for charity, but it’s a damn sure thing that whenever I can contribute again, I’m not giving a dime to anyone unless they’re supporting progressive causes. But beyond that, I have not a clue.
What do y’all think is the way forward?
re: #97 Wozza Matter?
From what I am watching, the only one in decent shape is Pennsylvania. (AP on Google)
It’s looking like Florida and North Carolina for Trump. Michigan is everything.
— Jared Yates Sexton (@JYSexton) November 9, 2016
Oh boy, Stephen Colbert’s gonna be a party tonight. The Daily Show has it right “America: The Series Finale”
I was just reminiscing about 11:00 pm eight years ago, the moment the CA polls closed and it was all over.
I may need to upgrade from horse tranquilizers to being slapped upside the head with a ballpeen hammer.
Oh trust me, Seroquel is strong enough for that.
re: #80 weave
Well if Trump wins this, let’s hope the Democrats return the favor of the past 8 years and work tirelessly to obstruct everything Republicans try to accomplish.
That’s going to be really difficult if the assholes keep the House and the Senate and have ugh—I can’t even say his name, in the White House.
I am truly sickened at what this country has become. And, though I often say it jokingly, I now am kind of glad that I’m old and don’t have kids.
Unbelievable. We’re about to elect a fascist demagogue with ZERO political experience to the most powerful office in the world. What. The. FUCK.
I won’t leave this country, but I definitely won’t have faith in it either.
Anyone still think Silver was way off and Wang had the election nailed?
Florida polled as a toss-up in the last polls, and so Ohio leaning Republican.
These losses are not surprising.
As noted by many pollsters, it was going to be a close race, but Hillary would eek out a EC win as well as an easy popular win.
It’s still possible for Clinton to end up with over 300 EVs. It may come down to more like 280, but I think 300 is still possible.
re: #98 Scottishdragon
The GOP will get rid of filibuster rules in January and then they will run the table to get their program into place for a generation.
No more medicare. No medicaid. The Dept of Education gets slashed. Same with FEMA and a dozen other agencies. Social security becomes a block grant. Vote suppression gets a nationwide boost. Taxes for the rich get slashed to nil.
Muslims get ethnically cleansed…and don’t think for one minute that the congress will try to impeach Trump when he tells federal courts to “Go fuck themselves” .
Look at the bright side. Guns will be readily available, so implementing the GOP retirement plan of blowing one’s brains out will always be an option.
re: #107 Big Beautiful Door
Anyone still think Silver was way off and Wang had the election nailed?
Guess not. Sigh. I really underestimated how hateful people can be.
MI: Not a single vote from Detroit is reporting yet. https://t.co/pjgjWB1E8E
— Tom Bonier (@tbonier) November 9, 2016
re: #100 retired cynic
Don’t look at the NYTimes feed on Penn
Current Senate seat count: Republicans 45, Democrats 41. https://t.co/H9n7JKbYS7 #ElectionNight #CBSElection pic.twitter.com/4lArHHHan7
— CBS News (@CBSNews) November 9, 2016
Can you imagine what Trump will do to the Supreme Court???
re: #111 Kragar
There are issues in Michigan
re: #112 Wozza Matter?
Yeah, it just slipped some.
The Canada Citizenship and Immigration site has crashed. pic.twitter.com/FOit6ZsMDZ
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) November 9, 2016
Shit that was the last one
Heading back on: https://t.co/W78wSs7SZK
— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) November 9, 2016
re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg
Can you imagine what Trump will do to the Supreme Court???
Say hello to forced birth, corporatism, and curtailed rights for minorities. Sigh…
The question is how long will it take the Trumpsters to turn on him when he can’t deliver and turns the economy into a shit show
Keep your courage and your sense of humor. There were people in Germany who found the fortitude to resist even when Adolf fucking Hitler was in charge.
If most of the government falls into reactionary hands, places like LGF will become centers of enlightenment and resistance.
re: #107 Big Beautiful Door
Anyone still think Silver was way off and Wang had the election nailed?
Wang’s simulations at the end showed Clinton most likely to win about 320 EVs, then the next peak was around 300 EVs.
This latter result is still quite open.
I don’t know why you folk are writing off MI. The Detroit Free Press know what they are doing, I propose.
We always knew that Drumpfskind would win big in the Confederacy, the Rust Belt, and very rural plains states.
The only big get for Drumpfskind so far is FL, which a few months ago looked very Democratic.
Y’all can yell at me if you want, but Trump is going to win this.
Part of me is absolutely numb at what’s happening, and the other part is like “What did you expect from a country full of racists.”
Fuck this country.
MSNBC still has florida too close to call but not holding my breath.
Looks like 600K votes still pending in Oakland County, Michigan. That will be the game changer
*typo: should be Wayne County.
Fuck it. I can’t deal with the negativity. Win, lose, or draw, I think the thing that defines this election most is the extreme level of rhetoric. If we want to stop people like Trump in the future, we have to start toning the shit down. Unfortunately, that has to cut both ways, and I have little hope that the Republicans will be willing to engage in civil discourse, but we have to start somewhere.
re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth
If you’re thinking of coming, here’s some advice you won’t find in a tourism guide:
re: #128 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
MSNBC still has florida too close to call but not holding my breath.
WaPo called it earlier. I see no reason to doubt them.
re: #129 Dr. Matt
Looks like 600K votes still pending in Oakland County, Michigan. That will be the game changer
Meaning?
re: #127 Mattand
Y’all can yell at me if you want, but Trump is going to win this.
Part of me is absolutely numb at what’s happening, and the other part is like “What did you expect from a country full of racists.”
Fuck this country.
England says welcome to the club
Sorry Lizards. We tried. We really tried.
But Trump tapped into a part of our national psyche that we’ve long thought was a thing of the past.
We assumed, this being 2016, that most of the country was past the old feelings of resentment to social progress. It appears we’ve gone backwards at least 50 years. And it’s going to take twice that amount of time to undo this.
Let’s face it. The best the GOP could come up with is Trump. And the best the Dems could come up with is Hillary. In spite of all her experience and life’s work helping others, she still has a ton of baggage. Unwarranted or not.
I hope when I wake up in the morning, this post was warrantless, but I’m going to bed assuming Trump will be the talk of the town tomorrow. It really sucks. But this also proves that us Democrats/Liberals are the ones now out of touch. Honestly. I don’t know where the party goes from here.
We will survive 4 years of Trump. But the damage will take a long, long time to undo. I’m not leaving. I’m staying to fight. Midterms, here we come.
re: #124 Schroedinger’s Dog
The question is how long will it take the Trumpsters to turn on him when he can’t deliver and turns the economy into a shit show
The Republican dogs never turn on the Master.
And Trump and the GOP will make sure non-white people have it so much worse than white people, so the Trumpers will be ecstatic, no matter how bad things get. :/
WTF??? New Hampshire still not in. Are they holding off for drama, either the state’s reporting people or the media? I don’t get it.
re: #137 ObserverArt
WTF??? New Hampshire still not in. Are they holding off for drama, either the state’s reporting people or the media? I don’t get it.
I think they still count ballots by hand in NH
re: #126 freetoken
Wang’s simulations at the end showed Clinton most likely to win about 320 EVs, then the next peak was around 300 EVs.
This latter result is still quite open.
I don’t know why you folk are writing off MI. The Detroit Free Press know what they are doing, I propose.
We always knew that Drumpfskind would win big in the Confederacy, the Rust Belt, and very rural plains states.
The only big get for Drumpfskind so far is FL, which a few months ago looked very Democratic.
I’m not writing off Mi, I expect to win Mi. But if she loses Ws, then she has to win Ia or Az.
Screw it, I’m leaving for Costa Rica next week.
No really, that was already scheduled. Guess I could extend my stay if the kitty-sitters are up to it.
Bummed and trying to stay optimistic. After the dentist pulled my molar today he warned me not to smoke for the next 3 days. I told him he had to be joking on this of all days?
I’m going to bed. I guess I’ll either wake up to a nightmare or not.
re: #125 Shiplord Kirel
Keep your courage and your sense of humor. There were people in Germany who found the fortitude to resist even when Adolf fucking Hitler was in charge.
If most of the government falls into reactionary hands, places like LGF will become centers of enlightenment and resistance.
And if it comes down to it I don’t think a lot of other countries would let America fail.
I’m either checking out moving to Canada or one of the states with legal weed
re: #143 Tigger2
And if it comes down to it I don’t think a lot of other countries would let America fail.
They might be tempted to, but fortunately, not many of them are as stupid as we are.
/half
If I have to hear Trump’s nasally whine for 4 years…Gah!
Let’s wait and see before panicking and giving Trump a win that he may well not have won. We don’t know where Michigan and Wisconsin are headed, much less NH. For all we know, AZ might even flip. The night is young, even if we all feel older than expected.
BREAKING: Trump wins Idaho. @AP race call at 11:00 p.m. EST. #Election2016 #APracecall pic.twitter.com/BVFf3iOMoO
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 9, 2016
If Trump wins I’m not changing countries, I’m changing species.
I’m as drunk as a skunk right now. I hope to God Clinton pulls it out, but if not, the first call tomorrow morning will be to the shrink. The second, I don’t know. At least I don’t have to go to work tomorrow and deal with the stock market cratering.
re: #143 Tigger2
And if it comes down to it I don’t think a lot of other countries would let America fail.
How on earth could other nations stop America from failing under Trump? Even if their intentions are good, magic remains impossible.
re: #127 Mattand
Y’all can yell at me if you want, but Trump is going to win this.
Part of me is absolutely numb at what’s happening, and the other part is like “What did you expect from a country full of racists.”
Fuck this country.
Yup.
I’m not quite mentally ready to go there yet, but yeah.
Now they are calling North Carolina for Trump.
The tears of wingnut rage will be all the sweeter if Hillary pulls it out after all this.
I have never felt so cynical about our country.
BREAKING: Clinton wins California. @AP race call at 11:00 p.m. EST. #Election2016 #APracecall pic.twitter.com/TgKHAr89bP
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 9, 2016
NC called by MSNBC. McCory winning governor again.
Dammit all to hell.
re: #151 De Kolta Chair
If Trump wins I’m not changing countries, I’m changing species.
Seconded. Vulcan all the way baby.
re: #160 Scottishdragon
NC called by MSNBC. McCory winning governor again.
Dammit all to hell.
Oh damn it.
re: #146 thedopefishlives
They might be tempted to, but fortunately, not many of them are as stupid as we are.
/half
I don’t think they would let a super power fail it would leave to many countries at the mercy of Russia and China.
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SYDNEY: DOWN 3.45%
DOW FUTURES: DOWN 3.88%
S&P 500 FUTURES: DOWN 4.35%— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) November 9, 2016
re: #166 Dr. Matt
What happened to Rubio?
I believe it was called for him, but I don’t have a source
re: #124 Schroedinger’s Dog
The question is how long will it take the Trumpsters to turn on him when he can’t deliver and turns the economy into a shit show
As long as he perpetuates the two-minute hate on a daily basis, they’ll be in his corner. That’s why most of them love him in the first place—he punches down, just like they do.
The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one’s will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp.
BREAKING: Clinton wins Oregon. @AP race call at 11:06 p.m. EST. #Election2016 #APracecall pic.twitter.com/fthA0AEHVO
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 9, 2016
Stepped aside for a few minutes. How much worse is it for Hillary? :/
Shit
We’re back on in a few: https://t.co/4m2f3zVGjU
— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) November 9, 2016
just saw projections that Heck is winning in NV on msnbc….
Where we stand right now: DOW futures are down 750. The dollar is plummeting. And Canada’s immigration website just crashed.
— Nick Bilton (@nickbilton) November 9, 2016
re: #147 No Depression
If I have to hear Trump’s nasally whine for 4 years…Gah!
I won’t. I stopped watching the TV news networks during this election. If he wins, I’ll keep going with that. I have no interest in listening to anything he has to say. Ever.
The Canada Citizenship and Immigration site has crashed. pic.twitter.com/FOit6ZsMDZ
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) November 9, 2016
re: #144 Schroedinger’s Dog
Someone here mentioned Canada to me earlier, as helping me.
I want that help.
re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth
This Oregon household delivered four votes to Hillary so we’re all glad to see that!
BREAKING: McCain re-elected to U.S. Senate in Arizona. @AP race call at 10:46 p.m. EST. #Election2016 #APracecall pic.twitter.com/qZZ5zFNuW3
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 9, 2016
re: #174 Myron Falwell (no relation)
Stepped aside for a few minutes. How much worse is it for Hillary? :/
Florida fell off into the ocean, but Michigan is looking good for Hillary. West coast states weighing in as expected.
Only a 30k vote difference in Michigan. Detroit alone can make up about 130k difference. pic.twitter.com/2qUq9jR65i
— Benchmark Politics (@benchmarkpol) November 9, 2016
re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth
Not surprising, either. Not only was he leading in the polls, once a Senator becomes an institution they are hard to remove.
re: #170 NJDhockeyfan
wow, hey stranger.
“Secretary of State Newt Gingrich”
— Shoq (@Shoq) November 9, 2016
Silver linings and all that
#BREAKING: AP projects Paul Penzone to be next Maricopa Co. Sheriff, unseating longtime incumbent Joe Arpaio. pic.twitter.com/UseKOALyEy
— FOX 10 Phoenix (@FOX10Phoenix) November 9, 2016
re: #184 Shiplord Kirel
Florida fell off into the ocean, but Michigan is looking good for Hillary. West coast states weighing in as expected.
I shouldn’t be surprised that FloriDuh let us down.
Is it likely that Michigan ultimately decides this for Hillary? (Remember, I’m refusing to watch TV or radio coverage…)
re: #130 thedopefishlives
Fuck it. I can’t deal with the negativity. Win, lose, or draw, I think the thing that defines this election most is the extreme level of rhetoric. If we want to stop people like Trump in the future, we have to start toning the shit down. Unfortunately, that has to cut both ways, and I have little hope that the Republicans will be willing to engage in civil discourse, but we have to start somewhere.
Tone down what?
Trump is fucking proto fascist. Not rhetoric…he actually fits definable profiles!!
Prosecute your political foes…shut down the free press…cult of personality….betrayed national greatness myth….political violence….use of incompatible left and right wing economics…disregard the democratic and legal norms…
He is an immediate threat to the very fabric of our democracy, and he is not going to be constrained by “checks and balances”. Do you really think a GOP congress will impeach him when he violates the constitution and ignores the courts?
Those days will be gone. He will be the strongman with an actual army and millions followers who want to see people like me punished.
This is the scene right now at the Clinton HQ. pic.twitter.com/9SjgtEZjDY
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) November 9, 2016
The tiny fingered racist is looking like he’ll be the next POTUS, and all of the conservatives start crawling out of the woodwork.
re: #194 Myron Falwell (no relation)
I shouldn’t be surprised that FloriDuh let us down.
Is it likely that Michigan ultimately decides this for Hillary? (Remember, I’m refusing to watch TV or radio coverage…)
Very well could.
PHOENIX (AP) — Sheriff Joe Arpaio loses bid for seventh term after facing criminal charge 2 weeks before Election Day .
— Nick Riccardi (@NickRiccardi) November 9, 2016
re: #124 Schroedinger’s Dog
The question is how long will it take the Trumpsters to turn on him when he can’t deliver and turns the economy into a shit show
Reposted from downstsirs:
Trump’s election will trigger Republicans’ backup plan to take control of the White House.
After some Trump scandal involving perjury or obstruction of justice gets orchestrated traction in the media (what better click bait?); the House, having practiced on President Bill Clinton, would initiate impeachment discussions.
Trump is given a choice.
Resign with promise of pardon of all criminal activity, or face impeachment and possible conviction by the Senate.
VP Pence becomes the “Republican dream” president.
re: #193 HappyWarrior
Attorney General, Rudy Giuliani.
Secretary of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment, Alex Jones.
re: #189 BeachDem
Some of us will. Some of us won’t.
Or perhaps none of us will. Trump seems to think that nukes are toys that should be used. Even if that specific bullet is dodged, does anyone really think Trump can make it through 4 months in office (let alone 4 years) without nuking someone for pissing him off?
I just got home from work and expected it to be called for Clinton already. Holy fuck I hate the world right now.
Didn’t he say Scalia was a great man?
Why yes, yes he did.
This country’s dead to me. It deserves whatever shit happens to it if Trump wins.
re: #193 HappyWarrior
Attorney General, Rudy Giuliani.
Hillary and Bill will need to leave the country very quickly.
I said that last summer and the threat to them is real explicit now.
re: #202 BeenHereAwhile
Reposted from downstsirs:
Trump’s election will trigger Republicans’ backup plan to take control of the White House.
After some Trump scandal involving perjury or obstruction of justice gets orchestrated traction in the media (what better click bait?); the House, having practiced on President Bill Clinton, would initiate impeachment discussions.
Trump is given a choice.
Resign with promise of pardon of all criminal activity, or face impeachment and possible conviction by the Senate.
VP Pence becomes the “Republican dream” president.
That’s what I think, too.
Who would have thought Bill Mitchell had it fucking right along?
Holy hell.
So much for demographic shifts helping.
It feels like the white majority in this country just stood up and screamed ‘WE ARE AMERICA, YOU GET THE FUCK OUT’, in a far more unified voice than many of us could have ever imagined.
It looks like NC will have fewer votes cast than in 2012.
Michigan is still over 2 million votes below 2012 total
re: #209 Scottishdragon
Hillary and Bill will need to leave the country very quickly.
I said that last summer and the threat to them is real explicit now.
Where will they go? I could easily see Trump and his Stormfront buddies threatening war against a country that doesn’t hand them over.
re: #205 NJDhockeyfan
You showing up right now stinks of opportunism, a readiness to gloat, point and laugh at us.
the Mexican peso is down 10% with them having to pay for that wall
re: #205 NJDhockeyfan
Well if you are a person who thinks its ok if a guy grabs your daughters P***** without her permission, then it’s probably great. If you are somebody who was raised by men who were strong and yet kind gentlemen then you are probably not happy.
re: #210 ObserverArt
What timing?
I was watching the elections and thought about LGF so I decided to stop by and say hi
re: #216 FormerDirtDart
It looks like NC will have fewer votes cast than in 2012.
Michigan is still over 2 million votes below 2012 total
The GOP voter suppression, KKK leaving flyers scaring minorities. I expected to lose NC. I didn’t expect FL and OH.
re: #217 nickzi
Where will they go? I could easily see Trump and his Stormfront buddies threatening war against a country that doesn’t hand them over.
Germany or England. Nobody is going to hand them over.
re: #222 NJDhockeyfan
I was watching the elections and thought about LGF so I decided to stop by and say hi
I do hope you keep posting, because sooner or later you’re going to say something stupid and get yourself banned.
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re: #220 Myron Falwell (no relation)
How many states along with MI does she need to pull through for her then?
WI. NH *might* help. But MI alone isn’t enough. My husband is counting EC’s.
re: #220 Myron Falwell (no relation)
How many states along with MI does she need to pull through for her then?
She needs Ws, Ia or Az
re: #216 FormerDirtDart
It looks like NC will have fewer votes cast than in 2012.
Michigan is still over 2 million votes below 2012 total
That VRA being gutted sure made a difference.
CNN has Clinton 197 Trump 187 now. He has a slight lead in the popular vote.
Is it really possible that they don’t know what’s going on in the Colbert studio?
re: #223 MsJ
The GOP voter suppression, KKK leaving flyers scaring minorities. I expected to lose NC. I didn’t expect FL and OH.
Trump over performed the angry white vote, and the Obama coalition didn’t come together this time.
re: #227 MsJ
WI. NH *might* help. But MI alone isn’t enough. My husband is counting EC’s.
Yeah, I just tallied everything at MSNBC. Trump wins with 7 EV if I did the math right.
Well I came by to say hi and i’m immediately is getting trounced on. Sheesh
re: #224 Scottishdragon
Germany or England. Nobody is going to hand them over.
You think England under Theresa May would even admit them? As for Germany, Merkel has her own problems and might not even be Kanzlerin much longer. Bear in mind, there’s no power that compares to the US military in the world. No cavalry is coming over the hill to save the day.
Let me repeat myself:
So far the only big surprise is Florida. It was polled as leaning Dem, and ended up Drumpf.
NC was a pegged a real toss=up in many polls.
OH was leaning Drumpf before the election (so was Iowa, a state to watch.)
CO was a toss-up in some polls but leaned Dem in others and Clinton carried it.
People worrying about MI and WI need to wait until the big Dem precincts come in.
Clinton was polled from the beginning with historic negatives, only beaten in that category later by Drumpf.
Tonight may be disappointing, but it is not surprising to those who have been paying attention.
re: #234 NJDhockeyfan
Well I came by to say hi and i’m immediately is getting trounced on. Sheesh
Everyone who’s familiar with you knows why you’re here.
re: #232 Scottishdragon
Trump over performed the angry white vote, and the Obama coalition didn’t come together this time.
And the polling was off big time. If the Clinton campaign’s internal polls were also off in the same way, that would explain much.
Stopped drinking. Still smoking.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) November 9, 2016
The downding was for the bullshit MBF. Repubs have spent the last 8 years specifically trying to fuck us over to put themselves in position for something like this. That’s not goddamned rhetoric, that’s me without funding for 6 weeks every goddamn year because they can’t do their job. That’s a candidate promising he’s going to fucking order me to commit war crimes. What exactly is the counter to that from the D side?
re: #230 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
CNN has Clinton 197 Trump 187 now. He has a slight lead in the popular vote.
Yeah, but they haven’t called FL, and GA will go Trump any minute
re: #185 Kragar
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To every person who voted for Gary fucking Johnson or Jill fucking Stein, fuck you from the bottom of my heart.
re: #226 Rightwingconspirator
It can fall just as fast
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Bitcoin prices are likewise surging, from $700 to $730 or so in one day.
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
Yes, and I’m sure you’re exceedingly happy for that.
re: #234 NJDhockeyfan
Well I came by to say hi and i’m immediately is getting trounced on. Sheesh
The verb you are groping for is either trounced, which is not a phrasal verb, or pounced upon, in which case you can’t spell.
Democracy means people get what they want, and they deserve to get it good and hard.
1) When I first started touring with the George Duke Band in the early 70s, we played a lot of festivals and gigs in the deep South. At …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
2) that time, there were still places where you could see “Whites Only” signs on water fountains and restrooms, and I witnessed some …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
3) shockingly open racism against the black members of the band. As a kid who grew up in Hawaii, this was a real consciousness-raising …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
4) experience that had a huge influence on me. So am I learning something NEW by seeing the support for Trump’s message of hatred and …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
5) bigotry? No. But I guess I was hoping that as a country, we’d put some distance from those days. I’m not so naïve that I thought …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
6) those days were gone for good, but I did think we at least had enough decent people in this country that we’d renounce a fucking …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
7) presidential candidate who wants to bring those days back to horrible life. Even if Hillary Clinton pulls it out and wins, I’ve …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
8) learned that in 2016, the racist history of this country is still influencing our politics in a major way.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
re: #239 Mattand
Everyone who’s familiar with you knows why you’re here.
Oh, please explain. (cant wait to hear this one)
MSNBC: “If people want change in Washington, why are they voting to return so many incumbents to Congress?” #ElectionNight
— Billy Corben (@BillyCorben) November 9, 2016
Take a look at your fellow Americans. Chances are a good number would toss you on a cattle car without thinking twice about it.
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 9, 2016
re: #250 NJDhockeyfan
Just go. We don’t need your trolling tonight.
Big bunch of votes in MI. Hillary is catching up fast.
It really has become 2000 all over again, with millions either lodging “protest votes” or voting for the Republican because they decided we needed “change.”
I supposed the Great Recession and two disastrous foreign wars wasn’t enough for some people to be disabused of voting Republican ever again.
re: #243 FormerDirtDart
Yeah, but they haven’t called FL, and GA will go Trump any minute
Florida was called for Trump. Clinton for California.
re: #234 NJDhockeyfan
Well I came by to say hi and i’m immediately is getting trounced on. Sheesh
Use your head. Why wouldn’t everyone be suspicious?
Hillary’s back within 15,000 in MI w/ 60% reporting.
re: #216 FormerDirtDart
“Voter suppression? What voter suppression?”
re: #109 EPR-radar
Look at the bright side. Guns will be readily available, so implementing the GOP retirement plan of blowing one’s brains out will always be an option.
2nd Amendment gun owners don’t realize that their right to possess firearms will be less secure under a.right wing government.
Expect a near-panicked, post-Munich style military build-up in Europe if Trump wins. All the NATO countries, and the neutrals like Sweden and Switzerland, have the industrial and scientific capability to build their own nuclear weapons. Several of them will exercise that option, as will many, many other countries in other parts of the world.
In the end it may really come down to Iowa and Nevada, two caucus states that get a lot of primary attention, and now you know why.
re: #249 Charles Johnson
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At this point, Charles? It’s not even history. It’s present reality.
re: #255 Targetpractice
It really has become 2000 all over again, with millions either lodging “protest votes” or voting for the Republican because they decided we needed “change.”
I supposed the Great Recession and two disastrous foreign wars wasn’t enough for some people to be disabused of voting Republican ever again.
No one ever accused Americans of having long memories where politics is concerned.
Alright, I’m out. Might be back later.
It blows my mind that a career reality show star can be president. What next, President Kim Kardashian?
re: #266 TedStriker
No one ever accused Americans of having long memories where politics is concerned.
Except when it comes to Hillary Clinton.
They’ve been hating her for 24 years.
Just got back from the Democratic Party poll watching party in town … all eight of us were at the restaurant.
Nebraska is obviously going for Trump, but the interest here is in the death penalty referendum (written so Retain: no death penalty, Repeal: Re-instate the death penalty).
Amazing how one rich guy (our state governor) can buy a referendum on the ballot. His veto on the death penalty bill overturned, he just buys a referendum.
Busting out the liquor.
It might sound like empty sloganeering, coming from an outlander, but whatever happens, your country needs you more than ever.
And if we’ve had the Green calculus foisted onto us, don’t let them be the ones to fill the breach.
I’m rooting for you. America can fail and still be good.
11:12pm: Using the projections of the NY Times, Donald Trump is outperforming his pre-election polling margins by a median of 4.0 +/- 2.6 percentage points (the 8 states in the Geek’s Guide). In Senate races, Republicans are outperforming by 6.0 +/- 3.7 percentage points. A five-percentage-point polling miss would be a tremendous error by modern polling standards. Undecided or minor-party voters coming home to Trump? Shy Trump voters? I don’t know.
Sam Wang at the Princeton site.
re: #202 BeenHereAwhile
Reposted from downstsirs:
Trump’s election will trigger Republicans’ backup plan to take control of the White House.
After some Trump scandal involving perjury or obstruction of justice gets orchestrated traction in the media (what better click bait?); the House, having practiced on President Bill Clinton, would initiate impeachment discussions.
Trump is given a choice.
Resign with promise of pardon of all criminal activity, or face impeachment and possible conviction by the Senate.
VP Pence becomes the “Republican dream” president.
And the media gleefully claps their hands in delight.
re: #244 BeachDem
To every person who voted for Gary fucking Johnson or Jill fucking Stein, fuck you from the bottom of my heart.
Yes this. I did Nader in 2000 and I have so regretted it since. (Granted, it was in Utah, but still….)
I managed to stagger downstairs for more rum and coke. I am going to drink myself into oblivion and hope I wake up in the morning. But seriously, folks…
Johnson has twice the vote difference between Clinton and Trump in Florida.
re: #258 ObserverArt
Use your head. Why wouldn’t everyone be suspicious?
I was a kind of expecting a “Hello, how have you been doing?” but I guess it isn’t as friendly here as it used to be.
re: #268 Shazam
It blows my mind that a career reality show star can be president. What next, President Kim Kardashian?
Why not. Kanye said he’s running in 2020.
Theresa May will be Donald Trumps best friend immediately because he’s said the UK will go to the top of the trade deal list and she needs a victory.
He will be legitimised.
re: #268 Shazam
It blows my mind that a career reality show star can be president. What next, President Kim Kardashian?
Better a nice ass than a nasty asshole…..
re: #268 Shazam
It blows my mind that a career reality show star can be president. What next, President Kim Kardashian?
Kanye West has publicly stated as such.
It’s a goddam real-life Idioacracy.
9) So when you tell me, “where have you been? It’s always been like this!” … you’re not telling me anything I didn’t already know.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 9, 2016
Prop 64 is projected to pass, Pot will be legal in CA.
re: #250 NJDhockeyfan
It seems pretty clear to me that you suddenly showed up tonight because you want to gloat.
re: #263 Shiplord Kirel
Expect a near-panicked, post-Munich style military build-up in Europe if Trump wins. All the NATO countries, and the neutrals like Sweden and Switzerland, have the industrial and scientific capability to build their own nuclear weapons. Several of them will exercise that option, as will many, many other countries in other parts of the world.
Also expect BlackLivesMatter declared a terrorist entity by a Giuliani dept of justice.
Trump has declared he wants protest orgs crushed.
re: #253 William Lewis
Just go. We don’t need your trolling tonight.
No! Let him stay. His ego needs it. He probably doesn’t have much else in his life that soothes all his failures.
re: #276 NJDhockeyfan
I was a kind of expecting a “Hello, how have you been doing?” but I guess it isn’t as friendly here as it used to be.
You could have EASILY had that any of the last 365 days.
You came tonight for a specific reason.
Everyone knows it.
We shall never again say that Republicans will never receive over 70% of the white vote.
re: #236 Myron Falwell (no relation)
GULP
I counted. She can get to 270 if she wins Mi, NH, all of Maine and Nb’s 2d congressional district.
re: #272 Scottishdragon
Sam Wang at the Princeton site.
Every single polling outfit basically looks like a bunch of fools now. We can’t really blame the Wangs or Silvers of the web because they were working with the polling numbers of assholes who apparently missed a 5%+ swing in Trump’s favor.
re: #264 freetoken
In the end it may really come down to Iowa and Nevada, two caucus states that get a lot of primary attention, and now you know why.
How does Iowa look? (John Ralston, NV political analyst, said Trump hasn’t got a chance in NV - between Reid’s machine and the huge increase in Hispanic vote, and I can’t remember the last time he was wrong on this scale.) Never expected NV to be such a critical state, with our 6 votes. Not feeling happy any more.
re: #276 NJDhockeyfan
I was a kind of expecting a “Hello, how have you been doing?” but I guess it isn’t as friendly here as it used to be.
You are not using your head.
If Hill loses MI, I’m closing up shop, and going to sit quietly wondering what the fuck has gone wrong with our country
re: #292 Ziggy_TARDIS
Yes.. but I live in a blue state.. today.
Just checked Zillow as a matter of fact.
re: #273 BeachDem
And the media gleefully claps their hands in delight.
No way in hell does Trump get impeached. The GOP has seen the deal with their base.
Spotted at the Trump election night party: Chuck Johnson
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) November 9, 2016
Spotted at the Trump election night party: Chuck Johnson
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) November 9, 2016
re: #290 Big Beautiful Door
I counted. She can get to 270 if she wins Mi, NH, all of Maine and Nb’s 2d congressional district.
Gotcha. I just want this to end (with her winning)
Down to 0.6% in Michigan, lots of precincts in Detroit, Flint, and Ann Arbor out. Likely to flip soon. pic.twitter.com/1omjfXdIRb
— Benchmark Politics (@benchmarkpol) November 9, 2016
Currently a 50k vote difference in Wisconsin. Madison is good to make up 100k, depending on other counties. https://t.co/3jB5hHTh6c pic.twitter.com/QQOg3DnFkw
— Benchmark Politics (@benchmarkpol) November 9, 2016
re: #290 Big Beautiful Door
I counted. She can get to 270 if she wins Mi, NH, all of Maine and Nb’s 2d congressional district.
Exactly 270 may not be enough for Clinton, if the 1-2 WA electors follow through on their intended faithless elector crap.
re: #281 Charles Johnson
So when you tell me, “where have you been? It’s always been like this!” … you’re not telling me anything I didn’t already know.]
It’s more the fact that it’s still like “this” that’s the galling part. We’ve apparently not just learned nothing from our history. We’ve learn the exact wrong lessons and decided that the backslide is just what we need to be “Great Again”.
re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth
That VRA being gutted sure made a difference.
And just think—Chief Justice Roberts will look like a fucking prince after Trump appoints his Heritage-picked, fascist SC judges.
I am really getting depressed.
re: #295 Kragar
If Hill loses MI, I’m closing up shop, and going to sit quietly wondering what the fuck has gone wrong with our country
The folks in MI seem to be under the delusion that Trump’s bringing those jobs back. He’s not, no more than he’s bringing back the coal jobs. Anybody who voted for him thinking that the trade wars he’s going to launch against China means manufacturing is coming back is not in touch with reality.
re: #284 Charles Johnson
It seems pretty clear to me that you suddenly showed up tonight because you want to gloat.
Seriously.
I mean, I haven’t seen a post from him in months and he just happens to pop in here right now? As the old saying goes, don’t piss on my leg and tell me that it’s raining.
re: #284 Charles Johnson
It seems pretty clear to me that you suddenly showed up tonight because you want to gloat.
That’s bullshit. For one thing I cant stand either one of them. Trump is an asshole and Hillary is a crook. It’s an embarrassment for out country that these two idiots are who we get to choose from. When logged in nobody was winning. Gloat? Not on your life. More like a nuclear facepalm.
re: #302 Myron Falwell (no relation)
Gotcha. I just want this to end (with her winning)
Aaaaand two electors in Washington have declared they will refuse to vote for Clinton.
It goes to the House if it is 270.
Now MSNBC is saying Florida has Trump as the “Apparent Winner”
Gag!
Aldous Huxley as a child pic.twitter.com/zcVeALVek8
— OnThisDay & Facts (@NotableHistory) November 9, 2016
GULP.
I don’t mean to freak people out, but there’s a chance that we get 269-269. Holy fuck. #mitchfacts
— Mitch Stewart (@Mitch_Stewart) November 9, 2016
re: #293 UnderTheRadar
Iowa’s last polls leaned towards Drumpf, but early voting indicated that the Dems had hoped.
It’s a purple state if there ever was one, but that had probably more to do with Nixon in 70’s and then Obama. Medium sized cities are Dem, the rural (and it is mostly rural) are religious right territory.
re: #290 Big Beautiful Door
I counted. She can get to 270 if she wins Mi, NH, all of Maine and Nb’s 2d congressional district.
So those, plus NV, would put her at 276, safe from the two faithless electors in WA?
re: #287 bratwurst
You could have EASILY had that any of the last 365 days.
You came tonight for a specific reason.
Everyone knows it.
I did. It was a while ago but I came by for a while. It was a nice visit. Much more friendly than tonight.
Scott Walker and now Trump. Is something in the water in WI?
re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg
Fox calls WI for Trump.
Then that is it. The firewall is down and Trump wins.
re: #307 BeachDem
And just think—Chief Justice Roberts will look like a fucking prince after Trump appoints his Heritage-picked, fascist SC judges.
I am really getting depressed.
The gutting of the VRA will go down as Roberts’ worst legacy.
re: #311 NJDhockeyfan
You’ll forgive me if I’ve had my fill of both-siders. Completely.
Prop 64 passed in CA, yay!! We’re gonna need it!!!
Hi lizards, long time lurker first time poster. From Ohio :(.
I’M going to finish my drink and go to bed. I think no matter what the outcome I’m going to look at my options. This is not a fun night to be a black woman in America :(.
But I will say I’m most disappointed in our security agencies. I can’t believe they let a man seemingly backed by a hostile foreign power, this close to the presidency. I don’t know what type f a me hey think they are playing.
re: #291 Targetpractice
Every single polling outfit basically looks like a bunch of fools now. We can’t really blame the Wangs or Silvers of the web because they were working with the polling numbers of assholes who apparently missed a 5%+ swing in Trump’s favor.
One thing we can say is that Silver’s assumption that such an unexpected swing in one state would correlate with similar swings in other states seems to have been rather more correct than a lot of pundits seemed to think.
MSNBC just called Iowa for trump as well.
Fox News calls Wisconsin for Trump. That’s it
— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) November 9, 2016
I think I may just go to bed
re: #324 Sherlock Hound
You’ll forgive me if I’ve had my fill of both-siders. Completely.
I’m a neither-sider. lol
re: #308 Targetpractice
The folks in MI seem to be under the delusion that Trump’s bringing those jobs back. He’s not, no more than he’s bringing back the coal jobs. Anybody who voted for him thinking that the trade wars he’s going to launch against China means manufacturing is coming back is not in touch with reality.
They are going to learn it the hard way. The only way this country seems to learn anything if we learn anything at all.
re: #334 Kragar
Fox is doing this for WI and IA, but not the others.
re: #329 baileylamb
From a fellow long-time lurker, first-time poster, and a fellow Buckeye… I’m embarrassed at all this.
re: #305 EPR-radar
Exactly 270 may not be enough for Clinton, if the 1-2 WA electors follow through on their intended faithless elector crap.
We have to hope intense pressure will bring them in line.
re: #340 freetoken
Fox is doing this for WI and IA, but not the others.
NBC has called Iowa for Trump
Donald Trump did what Romney and McCain wouldn’t do. He all but cried “n*****.” And it worked.
— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) November 9, 2016
Ok. Time to think of plan B.
I will finish my certificate during the next summer, which is for GIS. After that, I need to find a new place.
And it would need to be mildly tolerant to a relatively moderate European Muslim.
What a thing to wake up to. Trump may well have defied the odds and pulled this off.
Yeesh. WTF?
I wonder what the requirements are for political refugee status in Canada are? My Vietnamese son will not be safe in a Fascist America.
BREAKING: Trump wins Georgia. @AP race call at 11:33 p.m. EST. #Election2016 #APracecall pic.twitter.com/7AVu7hVXGz
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 9, 2016
re: #345 Ziggy_TARDIS
You asked upthread if there were any Canadians here - I am. What was your question?
Went to bed in 2016 VA, woke up in 1933 Berlin. FFS.
Welp. Guess we’d better get ready to enjoy the next 30-odd years under a Trump supreme court.
re: #285 Scottishdragon
Ok so his is my thing, what are black folk supposed to do it a Trump win. I don’t want to sound like Ziggy but I’m nervous.
Many moons ago my ancestors left the country for 4 years (during the Civil War), they traveled around Europe and did the “Grand Tour”. I don’t have it like that.
re: #317 UnderTheRadar
So those, plus NV, would put her at 276, safe from the two faithless electors in WA?
No, 270 including Nv
re: #282 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Prop 64 is projected to pass, Pot will be legal in CA.
Legal along the west coast from Mexico to Canada.
Really wish Hillary had a brother who was governor of Florida.
— Gladstone (@WGladstone) November 9, 2016
re: #345 Ziggy_TARDIS
Ok. Time to think of plan B.
I will finish my certificate during the next summer, which is for GIS. After that, I need to find a new place.
And it would need to be mildly tolerant to a relatively moderate European Muslim.
The US may not be friendly for a lot of people…me included. I don’t blame you if you head out for greener pastures. Best wishes. :(
See I don’t think it was all the racist, populist stuff that brought Trump this close, it was deep seated hatred for the Clintons and women than most of us never even knew was there.
So the bottom line appears to be that about 5% of the electorate in several states was quietly waiting to vote for a bigoted piece of trash because they think he’ll keep the ‘others’ down.
Fuck this shit.
Starting to see why Elon Musk is so obsessed with going to Mars.
— SarcasticRover (@SarcasticRover) November 9, 2016
It’s looking as if we’ve swept the board in Nevada, so there’s that. Now let’s see whether we can pull Michigan and Wisconsin into the light. Michigan I feel fairly positive about, not so sure about Wisconsin.
re: #350 Interesting Times
So, I have a Four Year Degree, and am now going towards getting a certificate for GIS. I think I might want to go to Canada, but may need help.
Would Canada accept me?
The DOW is now lower than it was on 9/11.
Let that sink in.#ElectionNight— Eric Wolfson (@EricWolfson) November 9, 2016
re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth
Well I kind of expected that but shit.
I hate to tell a lot of the idiots that voted for Trump, but they are going to get fucked over by him.
re: #337 NJDhockeyfan
I’m a neither-sider. lol
IOW you want the fruits of Fascism but want to pretend you’re not a Good German? Fuck off you are just as sick as Trump.
re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg
See I don’t think it was all the racist, populist stuff that brought Trump this close, it was deep seated hatred for the Clintons and women than most of us never even knew was there.
Eh, I think it was the Brexit factor after all. A bunch of people who’ve been screwed by neo-conservatism and neo-liberalism alike, and who got a walking talking opportunity to say “fuck you” to the system.
Nihilism, for sure, and not pretty, but understandable.
re: #353 baileylamb
Ok so his is my thing, what are black folk supposed to do it a Trump win. I don’t want to sound like Ziggy but I’m nervous.
Many moons ago my ancestors left the country for 4 years (during the Civil War), they traveled around Europe and did the “Grand Tour”. I don’t have it like that.
I have no idea. Getting shot by the police seems to be the preferred solution for you by 51% of your fellow citiizens.
Lizards…I am verging on tears right now because I am horrified.
Hillary is underperforming in the popular vote, compared to Obama in 2012.
So far.
By tomorrow she will be ahead of Obama in 2012, but I doubt she will top the 2008 vote.
And therein lay the problem.
re: #275 Belafon
Johnson has twice the vote difference between Clinton and Trump in Florida.
Hence my 244.
I’m not staying just driving by to say if Trump wins, then I hope the GOP also maintains control of Congress so that they totally OWN whatever fuck-ups happen in the next 2-4 years. Da’esh will be deliriously happy.
Later, lizards.
re: #361 nickzi
It’s looking as if we’ve swept the board in Nevada, so there’s that. Now let’s see whether we can pull Michigan and Wisconsin into the light. Michigan I feel fairly positive about, not so sure about Wisconsin.
Fox called Wisconsin earlier.
Well time for bed. Gotta be up for the gym, life does go on and the fight continues.
So I was wondering, how long can RBG hang on?
re: #359 EPR-radar
So the bottom line appears to be that about 5% of the electorate in several states was quietly waiting to vote for a bigoted piece of trash because they think he’ll keep the ‘others’ down.
Fuck this shit.
Yeah. The Brexit thing was actually right…polls did not account for “unlikely” voters who suddenly turned out in huge numbers.
NOW: Just heard from Darryl Glenn campaign. They are NOT conceding to @SenBennetCO #copolitics
— Peter Marcus (@MediaMarcus) November 9, 2016
Glenn is down by nearly 100,000 votes. We shall see.
re: #329 baileylamb
Hi lizards, long time lurker first time poster. From Ohio :(.
I’M going to finish my drink and go to bed. I think no matter what the outcome I’m going to look at my options. This is not a fun night to be a black woman in America :(.But I will say I’m most disappointed in our security agencies. I can’t believe they let a man seemingly backed by a hostile foreign power, this close to the presidency. I don’t know what type f a me hey think they are playing.
re: #341 Myron Falwell (no relation)
From a fellow long-time lurker, first-time poster, and a fellow Buckeye… I’m embarrassed at all this.
Hey fellow Buckeyes. Wish it were better times to meet.
Sigh.
re: #353 baileylamb
Ok so his is my thing, what are black folk supposed to do it a Trump win. I don’t want to sound like Ziggy but I’m nervous.
Many moons ago my ancestors left the country for 4 years (during the Civil War), they traveled around Europe and did the “Grand Tour”. I don’t have it like that.
If Trump wins, I hope to see a landslide Democratic victory in 2020 after the GOP wrecks the economy again.
re: #311 NJDhockeyfan
That’s bullshit.
Sure doesn’t look like bullshit to me. But I do smell some bullshit, from some other source.
Get your responses ready for people who complain about losing their insurance when Obamacare goes down in flames.
re: #379 Big Beautiful Door
If Trump wins, I hope to see a landslide Democratic victory in 2020 after the GOP wrecks the economy again.
GWB proved otherwise.
Can’t say I’m that surprised. Never doubt the stupidity and depravity of the American People.
re: #373 NJDhockeyfan
Fox called Wisconsin earlier.
Son, if I want play-by-play commentary from a moron, be assured I will turn to you. Until then, find something orange and fascist-shaped to shove down your own throat until you choke on it.
I don’t think Colbert’s audience is in the mood for this crap.
re: #371 BeachDem
Hence my 244.
The Johnson voters don’t bother me, since they would mostly be Trump voters if they weren’t entertaining themselves with 3rd party nonsense.
It’s the Stein voters that need to fuck themselves sideways with rusty farm implements.
re: #337 NJDhockeyfan
If you really are here for non gloating reasons, I know there were a lot of people in your same boat. They couldn’t stand either T or H.
re: #363 Kragar
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Well, I can forget getting a job anywhere for the foreseeable future. :/
re: #379 Big Beautiful Door
If Trump wins, I hope to see a landslide Democratic victory in 2020 after the GOP wrecks the economy again.
The problem is as evidenced by the Trump supporters interviewed by NBC tonight though. Those voters don’t actually connect the dots at all. They just go: “Trump says words, and he… he… it’s on his hat.”
re: #275 Belafon
Johnson has twice the vote difference between Clinton and Trump in Florida.
Realistically though, aren’t the majority of Johnson voters normally reliably republican voters? I’m just saying, the orange terror might have had a larger margin had Johnson not been in the race rather than a smaller.
Of course if more R voters had switched to D that would have been good for Clinton, but that’s not a particularly meaningful statement in re. third party voters ;)
Breaking: Voters in Massachusetts approve legalizing recreational marijuana, a 1st for the eastern US - AP
— Jon Passantino (@passantino) November 9, 2016
re: #381 Eclectic Cyborg
Get your responses ready for people who complain about losing their insurance when Obamacare goes down in flames.
So Obamacare will be repealed in 3 months.
— Nick Spencer (@nickspencer) November 9, 2016
re: #379 Big Beautiful Door
If Trump wins, I hope to see a landslide Democratic victory in 2020 after the GOP wrecks the economy again.
Very possible…but a generation worth of damage will have been done.
Damn! This means I will probably have to call off my trip to France next year.
re: #131 lockjawcanbefun
Haven’t seen Ed The Sock in years. Nice to see he still hasn’t lost his edge.
Yeap.
Put yourself in the shoes of immigrants and Muslims and imagine what they are feeling right now
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) November 9, 2016
re: #389 scottslemmons
Well, I can forget getting a job anywhere for the foreseeable future. :/
“Like UBER, but for an entire economy.”
re: #385 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I don’t think Colbert’s audience is in the mood for this crap.
We’ve been noticing that too, and neither are we.
re: #390 iossarian
The problem is as evidenced by the Trump supporters interviewed by NBC tonight though. Those voters don’t actually connect the dots at all. They just go: “Trump says words, and he… he… it’s on his hat.”
That sums it up.
Then there are those who know he was lying to them but were ok with it. Watching that shit made me scratch my head.
re: #382 Varek Raith
GWB proved otherwise.
He didn’t wreck the economy until 2008, and then the Dems did have a smashing victory.
re: #362 Ziggy_TARDIS
So, I have a Four Year Degree, and am now going towards getting a certificate for GIS. I think I might want to go to Canada, but may need help.
Would Canada accept me?
I can’t say offhand how long the process would take, but I think you should have a chance, at the very least. Maybe see if you can transfer to a school here, perhaps, to start with?
(by the way, I’m seeing reports on FB and Twitter that the Canadian Immigration website has crashed o_O )
re: #379 Big Beautiful Door
If Trump wins, I hope to see a landslide Democratic victory in 2020 after the GOP wrecks the economy again.
It took the Democrats eight years to mount a challenge to the most incompetent President in memory.
This will go down as an all-timer from the New Yorker pic.twitter.com/qRHEahzOIq
— James Gordon (@James_J_Gordon) November 9, 2016
re: #379 Big Beautiful Door
If Trump wins, I hope to see a landslide Democratic victory in 2020 after the GOP wrecks the economy again.
That’s best case. It’s not impossible to imagine that this was the last contested Election.
re: #394 Scottishdragon
There may not be another election we can win.
They will put up voting restrictions to hurt minority turnout even more. I don’t think we will be in a position to win elections again.
re: #369 Scottishdragon
I have no idea. Getting shot by the police seems to be the preferred solution for you by 51% of your fellow citiizens.
Lizards…I am verging on tears right now because I am horrified.
But, I really don’t want to be shot by the police….. I’ve never had a traffic ticket, and I hate blood.
So, if anyone in Canada or New Zealand or even South Africa has a spare room, I and my kids would be greatfull. I cook :p
Seriously? We’re going to have people showing up at LGF tonight to rub it in?
re: #388 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
If you really are here for non gloating reasons, I know there were a lot of people in your same boat. They couldn’t stand either T or H.
Thanks. I understand there are some upset people here but I am not here to gloat or dance. Trump was not my guy. I didn’t vote this time. First time in my life I sat one out.
re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth
Not caring
Brian Williams sighs like he’s realizing it’s no longer fun and games. Spoiler: For a lot of Americans it never has been.
— Jason Karsh (@jkarsh) November 9, 2016
re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg
See I don’t think it was all the racist, populist stuff that brought Trump this close, it was deep seated hatred for the Clintons and women than most of us never even knew was there.
Yep. Nice, mild mannered guy at work this morning told me he was voting for Trump, and couldn’t (wouldn’t) explain why. Could have knocked me over with a feather. And this was in NV. Unsurprisingly, I now have zero interest in helping him do the work he can’t figure out how to do, when he wants me to “help” get him promoted. And he’s not the only one… sucks to be a women in a male-dominated field.
re: #400 MsJ
That sums it up.
Then there are those who know he was lying to them but were ok with it. Watching that shit made me scratch my head.
I think there are a lot of people who sort of understand how the system works against them, and they deliberately shut down thinking about it because it’s too depressing.
Sort-of-paradoxical but it also makes sense.
re: #395 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Damn! This means I will probably have to call off my trip to France next year.
Tell me. I just bought a car I have to pay for.
re: #381 Eclectic Cyborg
Get your responses ready for people who complain about losing their insurance when Obamacare goes down in flames.
I’m a bit bummed about that, too. I’ve got some savings, but that’ll vanish fast if I have to spend a thousand bucks a month on insurance. :/
My 2016 to-do list
- Brexit
- Sanctions off
- President Trump
- LOL— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) May 4, 2016
Hi! I don’t know if any of you know me but I am Dem living in deep red Oklahoma.
I am just as disgusted as you. My husband is from Iran admittedly here for 35 years with a daughter that dates a nice black guy, and a son who is a Navy pilot.
Neither one of them face any discrimination, in fact my husband has many friends of the most red neck guys you ever met ..they just have to get to know you
We own a restaurant opened 24 hours a day and our customer base is made up of the most red neck Americans I have ever met..but if someone mouths off to my husband in a prejudiced way, the rest of our customers come flying out of their seats.
But the choices they make well..even going to vote is a wasted exercise in futility. I still do it, lose every time…but don’t give up..I don’t.
re: #402 Interesting Times
I am currently in the middle of a program at Collin College.
re: #406 Ziggy_TARDIS
There may not be another election we can win.
They will put up voting restrictions to hurt minority turnout even more. I don’t think we will be in a position to win elections again.
That will be their plan.
re: #408 Charles Johnson
Seriously? We’re going to have people showing up at LGF tonight to rub it in?
You had to know that would happen if this happened.
re: #378 ObserverArt
Same here, although I’ve read the site or 6 years.
re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth
Brian Williams sighs like he’s realizing it’s no longer fun and games. Spoiler: For a lot of Americans it never has been.
Treating politics like ‘fun and games’ is one of the fucking things that lead to this.
re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg
See I don’t think it was all the racist, populist stuff that brought Trump this close, it was deep seated hatred for the Clintons and women than most of us never even knew was there.
^^^
I agree with this for the most part. It may not even be as much misogyny as it is a visceral hatred for the Clintons.
Frankly, I still resent her/their behavior from 2008 towards President Obama, and don’t get me started on mass incarceration.
She got my vote due to pragmatism, period.
re: #408 Charles Johnson
Seriously? We’re going to have people showing up at LGF tonight to rub it in?
You knew it was going to happen.
re: #409 NJDhockeyfan
Thanks. I understand there are some upset people here but I am not here to gloat or dance. Trump was not my guy. I didn’t vote this time. First time in my life I sat one out.
If you did not vote against him, you are for him. Now fuck yourself the way you fuck ed your fellow human beings.
re: #397 Myron Falwell (no relation)
Yeap.
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Tomorrow, they wake up to find themselves in Nazi Germany in the 30s. How will they know which of their neighbors, their coworkers, their “friends” voted for the short-fingered vulgarian. Some will assure them that it has nothing to do with hate towards them, but that’s bullshit. They may not hate, but they have become an accessory to hate.
re: #408 Charles Johnson
I said my piece long ago about Clinton. I voted for her. Tonight isn’t the night for it.
re: #381 Eclectic Cyborg
Get your responses ready for people who complain about losing their insurance when Obamacare goes down in flames.
And that is something that has me concerned since I am getting something treated right now that I suspect would heavily affect getting insurance if I change jobs or try to do some sort of early semi-retirement.
re: #409 NJDhockeyfan
Thanks. I understand there are some upset people here but I am not here to gloat or dance. Trump was not my guy. I didn’t vote this time. First time in my life I sat one out.
Congrats, I hope you re happy. Want to chip in for me and my family to leave? I’VE said some not so nice things about Great Leader Putin.
re: #372 CuriousLurker
I’m not staying just driving by to say if Trump wins, then I hope the GOP also maintains control of Congress so that they totally OWN whatever fuck-ups happen in the next 2-4 years. Da’esh will be deliriously happy.
Later, lizards.
I was just going to post that ISIS/Da’esh is rel happy tonight. Trump is really their poster boy now.
re: #417 justaminute
It’s good to hear from you. :)
Fortunately, President Obama has that secret plan the righties keep warning us about to take over the government.
re: #406 Ziggy_TARDIS
There may not be another election we can win.
They will put up voting restrictions to hurt minority turnout even more. I don’t think we will be in a position to win elections again.
Supreme court may be lost for a generation.
Voting Rights Act was already gone, Roe/Wade will probably go.
re: #402 Interesting Times
I can’t say offhand how long the process would take, but I think you should have a chance, at the very least. Maybe see if you can transfer to a school here, perhaps, to start with?
(by the way, I’m seeing reports on FB and Twitter that the Canadian Immigration website has crashed o_O )
It took me six months from when I applied. But I married a Canadian. I’d think a year so apply sooner rather than later. You can try Political Asylum due to religious issues. You can also try to find an employer to sponsor you.
OK, the election is not over yet. Clinton can still get to 270
Los Angeles county alone will put Clinton into the easy win category for popular vote nationwide.
But if I may, we here in California are not the problem.
The Americans who are voting in all those rural states are packed with resentment.
At least the older ones.
And the younger ones may just not care enough to vote.
This is why our national politics is messed up.
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Stock market crashing
NATO going on alert
Russia getting more aggressive.
Civil rights attacked at all levels
That is our next 4 years— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 9, 2016
re: #418 Ziggy_TARDIS
I am currently in the middle of a program at Collin College.
Here’s a better idea. Enroll in a Canadian college. Then once you’ve been there for a bit, apply for citizenship.
Congrats Ralph Nader, Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are about replace you as the all-time piece of shit spoiler.#ElectionDay
— Erik Bransteen (@erikbransteen) November 9, 2016
re: #435 MsJ
It took me six months from when I applied. But I married a Canadian. I’d think a year so apply sooner rather than later. You can try Political Asylum due to religious issues. You can also try to find an employer to sponsor you.
What’s a good website to find Canadians. I hunk my plan B is a dissolve my marriage (it only takes one month in Ohio) and marry a Canadian :). Did I mention I’m a great baker :).
From Balloon Juice:
enplaned says:
November 8, 2016 at 11:24 pmCassandra was the daughter of Priam, King of Troy. It was her curse to be able to tell the future, but to not be believed when she did so.
I can’t tell the future, but right from the beginning, right from 2013/2014, I knew Hillary would be a bad candidate. I don’t hate her — I don’t think she’s worse than any other politician in terms of morals, ethics, etc. She’s a smart lady, works hard. But that doesn’t matter — the country doesn’t like her. And a lot of what she did played into the narrative already laid out for her — emails, whatever.
I can’t tell the future, and god, I hope she somehow pulls this out tonight. But I have a pretty damn good idea of what it’s like to be Cassandra — and it’s like a waking fucking nightmare. And it’s been like that for most of this cycle and it’s goddamn awful tonight. I haven’t slept properly for weeks, months worrying about this goddamn election. And every fucking nightmare is coming true.
If you think I take one ounce of satisfaction from this, you’re fucking wrong. I have never been so unhappy to be right. But win or lose, Democrats better start seeing reality for what it is if they want to make progress. And they can start with the reality that the Democratic powers that be are completely fucking incompetent to have greased the skids for Hillary and putting her forward as our champion.
We need to stare reality in the face if we’re to get by this. No flinching.
re: #436 Big Beautiful Door
OK, the election is not over yet. Clinton can still get to 270
It’s over. Georgia called for Trump.
Lizards, keep your chin up! Take heed of Shiplord Kirel’s advice.
A lot of doom and gloom in my Facebook. Hey people, we survived a catastrophic civil war. The country is fine, ain’t going anywhere.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) November 8, 2016
re: #439 No Depression
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BREAKING: @RoyCooperNC spokesperson says they are hearing votes missing in Durham. There should be 135K, but they only have 55K @wcnc
— Tanya Mendis (@tanyamendis) November 9, 2016
re: #353 baileylamb
Ok so his is my thing, what are black folk supposed to do it a Trump win. I don’t want to sound like Ziggy but I’m nervous.
Many moons ago my ancestors left the country for 4 years (during the Civil War), they traveled around Europe and did the “Grand Tour”. I don’t have it like that.
My family fled Poland right before the Nazis rolled in. What the hell am I supposed to do? Mr. Trump has a whole bunch of people in his camp that think the grandchildren of undocumented immigrants should be deported (re: Rep. Steve King).
I am pretty sure three generations of military service in my family would count for squat. Better brush up on my Polish.
The only solace my wife and I can take in this right now is that Trump is a PT Barnum. He’s been selling an act the entire year and, as the talking heads have said, nobody knows what he’ll do if he takes office. The wall, muslims, Obamacare - none of what he said about that is meaningful if he wins. Will he surround himself with Pences and Ryans? Maybe. Or he could go middle of the road and try to be successful as president.
Goodbye Poland
Goodbye Lithuania
Goodbye Latvia
Goodbye Estonia
That’s it. California is succeeding from the union. We are DONE with you dumb fuckers!
re: #381 Eclectic Cyborg
Get your responses ready for people who complain about losing their insurance when Obamacare goes down in flames.
If you are a Republican and voted for Trump “TO FUCKING BAD I DON”T CARE’
re: #452 Ace-o-aces
That’s it. California is succeeding from the union. We are DONE with you dumb fuckers!
Oregon and Washington may well join up; the Pacific Federation.
re: #445 GlutenFreeJesus
It’s over. Georgia called for Trump.
Ga was always going for Trump. She needs Mi, Nv, NH, all of Maine and Nb’s 2d congressional district for 270. Its still doable.
re: #452 Ace-o-aces
República de la California y Baja.
re: #452 Ace-o-aces
That’s it. California is succeeding from the union. We are DONE with you dumb fuckers!
If it comes down to that, mind accepting a refugee? Namely me?
I can’t believe people are surprised that the country that has allowed cops to ruthlessly murder young black folks would be ok with Trump.
— Athena Hollow (@athenahollow) November 9, 2016
jesus christ
For a lot of people in this country, President Trump is revenge for 8 years of Obama.
— Meghan McCain (@MeghanMcCain) November 9, 2016
re: #449 Anymouse
My family fled Poland right before the Nazis rolled in. What the hell am I supposed to do? Mr. Trump has a whole bunch of people in his camp that think the grandchildren of undocumented immigrants should be deported (re: Rep. Steve King).
I am pretty sure three generations of military service in my family would count for squat. Better brush up on my Polish.
Don’t worry; you’re white.
re: #450 darthstar
The only solace my wife and I can take in this right now is that Trump is a PT Barnum. He’s been selling an act the entire year and, as the talking heads have said, nobody knows what he’ll do if he takes office. The wall, muslims, Obamacare - none of what he said about that is meaningful if he wins. Will he surround himself with Pences and Ryans? Maybe. Or he could go middle of the road and try to be successful as president.
I would go with the worst possible scenario. He’s not only an ideologe… he’s an ill-tempered ideologe that wants to exact revenge.
Michael Steele looks as stunned as James Carville does. Neither of them wanted this to happen. But they’re carnival barkers just like Trump. This is how they make their living.
I was hoping for women, latinos, and AA to save the rest of us.
But it’s not their fault.
re: #461 ObserverArt
Where’s Dark? /
At least that piece of shit Mark Kirk lost in IL. That and Arpaio getting the boot may end up being most of the few crumbs of good news tonight.
re: #446 teleskiguy
A shitload of people didn’t survive the Civil War
re: #414 MsJ
Tell me. I just bought a car I have to pay for.
And it’s not just financial. I made the mistake of being in Europe when Bush 2.0 was in office at peak world hatred. It was constant confrontations from people asking how did America become so powerful with so many stupid, ignorant people? And how could we have voted an old Actor like Reagan into office Blah blah blah
It was a nightmare! I can’t imagine what it will be like now!
I’m so embarrassed.
re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth
jesus christ
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She’s actually right. I’ve always figured that a big part of the Brexit “Leave” vote was the idea of sticking it to former PM David Cameron, who was not exactly ‘Mr. Popularity’.
re: #452 Ace-o-aces
That’s it. California is succeeding from the union. We are DONE with you dumb fuckers!
We’re not seceding. We’ve got legal weed coming. Thankfully.
re: #444 Scottishdragon
From Balloon Juice:
I really am not in the mood right now for this “Oh, I feel your pain, but I was always right…” BS from Bros and wannabe Bros. Fuck’em, this is on them just as I’ve been telling them for months. Every single fucking one of them that said “Oh, my conscience won’t let me vote for her,” the next 4 years is on their heads. They had the most progressive Dem platform in ages and they pissed it away because they wanted Bernie. Their “burn down the village to save it” mentality has just set us back a generation.
re: #452 Ace-o-aces
That’s it. California is succeeding from the union. We are DONE with you dumb fuckers!
Y’all, the West Coast is probably near the top of Trump’s “Places I Want to Nuke” list. :/
re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth
I am only surprised that it took Princess Smegma so long to crawl out from under her rock.
A quick funny on an unfunny night.
“Michigan. Sponsored by Audi.”
(H/t Mrs. Colorman)#Irony pic.twitter.com/tXPaL7KVTj— Monte the Color Man (@Monte_Colorman) November 9, 2016
re: #469 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I’m talking about the country, dude. You don’t need to tell me the human cost of the Civil War. What do you think, I’m dumb?
re: #456 Big Beautiful Door
Ga was always going for Trump. She needs Mi, Nv, NH, all of Maine and Nb’s 2d congressional district for 270. Its still doable.
Nebr. District 2 will not go for Mrs. Clinton.
re: #189 BeachDem
Some of us will. Some of us won’t.
One of them is my wife. She’s disabled, lives in federal housing and is dependant on Medicaid and SSI to stay alive.
So, if the Mussolini clone wins she’ll soon be homeless, sick and disabled.
We’ve got plans that we can’t mention here.
re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg
See I don’t think it was all the racist, populist stuff that brought Trump this close, it was deep seated hatred for the Clintons and women than most of us never even knew was there.
I disagree. Even hatred of the Clintons could not have made rational, non-hating people vote for someone as disgusting as Trump.
I am just totally at a loss. I truly didn’t believe this country has this many fucking racist, hateful, ignorant people in it, but I guess I was wrong.
re: #473 Targetpractice
I really am not in the mood right now for this “Oh, I feel your pain, but I was always right…” BS from Bros and wannabe Bros. Fuck’em, this is on them just as I’ve been telling them for months. Every single fucking one of them that said “Oh, my conscience won’t let me vote for her,” the next 4 years is on their heads. They had the most progressive Dem platform in ages and they pissed it away because they wanted Bernie. Their “burn down the village to save it” mentality has just set us back a generation.
Funny. I’m seeing Bros blaming all this on the Clinton voters. We should have gone for Bernie.
re: #386 EPR-radar
The Johnson voters don’t bother me, since they would mostly be Trump voters if they weren’t entertaining themselves with 3rd party nonsense.
It’s the Stein voters that need to fuck themselves sideways with rusty farm implements.
The Stein voters for sure, but I think Johnson picked up some lefties as well—the former LuapNor hipster gang.
re: #394 Scottishdragon
Very possible…but a generation worth of damage will have been done.
And there are many who won’t survive four years of Trump.
re: #480 teleskiguy
If that’s the way you want it, then yes.
re: #488 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
What’s the “way I want it”? Enlighten me.
Well it sure looks like our Democrats in the Senate are going to be busy filibustering just about everything that comes to the floor for a vote for the next 4 years.
re: #426 Targetpractice
Tomorrow, they wake up to find themselves in Nazi Germany in the 30s. How will they know which of their neighbors, their coworkers, their “friends” voted for the short-fingered vulgarian. Some will assure them that it has nothing to do with hate towards them, but that’s bullshit. They may not hate, but they have become an accessory to hate.
I think it’s unfair to compare today’s United States to Nazi Germany in the 30s.
Hitler lost the election.
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