Election Night, Thread 3: Some Thoughts on What We’re Seeing Tonight

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When I first started touring with the George Duke Band in the early 70s, we played a lot of festivals and gigs in the deep South. At that time, there were still places where you could see “Whites Only” signs on water fountains and restrooms, and I witnessed some shockingly open racism against the black members of the band.

As a kid who grew up in Hawaii, this was a real consciousness-raising experience that had a huge influence on me.

So am I learning something new by seeing the support for Trump’s message of hatred and bigotry? No. But I guess I was hoping that as a country, we’d put some distance from those days.

I’m not so naïve that I thought those days were gone for good, but I did think we at least had enough decent people in this country that we’d renounce a fucking sociopathic presidential candidate who wants to bring those days back to horrible life.

Even if Hillary Clinton pulls it out and wins, I’ve learned that in 2016, the racist history of this country is still influencing our politics in a major way. And it breaks my heart.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:54:48pm

If it’s any consolation, from what we know of Trump’s M.O. he probably isn’t going to follow through on any of his campaign promises. I mean, does the guy EVER do what he says?

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:54:52pm

Oh boy….

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:55:08pm

Reposted from downstairs….

Liberty Dies

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darthstar  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:55:30pm

In the immortal words of Frank Zappa, “Ain’t this boogie a mess?”

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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:56:21pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:56:45pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

Doesn’t matter. There’s nothing standing between the Republicans and mob rule

And I’m incredibly disappointed in Stephen Colbert tonight

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:57:05pm

How many countries will really want those of us who want to leave?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:57:26pm

I wonder if Trump wins how it will impact his court dates, indictments and such.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:57:27pm
Even if Hillary Clinton pulls it out and wins, I’ve learned that in 2016, the racist history of this country is still influencing our politics in a major way.

Said it in the previous thread, but I’ll say it again…it’s not even history at this point. It’s the everliving present. And it’s the present that most of this country wants and adores apparently.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:57:30pm
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retired cynic  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:57:47pm

I am so heart sick I can barely swallow.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:57:51pm
Wisconsin was +6.5 Clinton RCP average.
Trump +4.0 now.

This is fucking unbelievable.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:58:07pm

I love you guys but I need a break. I’m just devastated.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:58:16pm

I wonder if Keith Olbermann is going to go into hiding.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:58:24pm

re: #12 Scottishdragon

This is fucking unbelievable.

I just don’t get it. He CONSTANTLY under-performed his polls in the GOP primaries.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:58:27pm

I’ve learned that as a Latina, I don’t have a place in this country and probably never did.

I won’t leave, but whatever faith I had in America is gone. It’s heartbreaking.

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Wozza Matter?  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:58:27pm

The poorest will be worse off.
Women will be worse off.
The Middle class will be worse off.
He openly talked about defaulting on the debt.
Supreme court gone for a generation.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:59:12pm

So to look at the polls now compared to where they were a day ago, the only conclusion I can come to is there are millions of my fellow Americans who are “Good Germans,” who saw the vile and noxious nature of Trump and said “I don’t want people I know to associate me with that” BUT STILL VOTED FOR HIM!

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:59:21pm

re: #14 Kilroy was here

I wonder if Keith Olbermann is going to go into hiding.

No. He is going to say a lot….and we will see if Trump is going to start using the government to come after people who say a lot.

His past actions and words suggest he will.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:59:23pm

AND of course, they started chanting lock her up at the Trump party. Fuck these fascists.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:59:25pm

re: #16 Lidane

I had been feeling the same way for a while. Now, I know it.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:59:25pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Trump wins how it will impact his court dates, indictments and such.

The court cases will go on hold now that he will be President. I forget the name of the doctrine, but you just can’t bring a case against the President unless it’s something he did in office, or if you’re a Republican.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:59:34pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:59:52pm

I hope countries recall their ambassadors en-masse if Trump wins to send a message.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 8:59:55pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

I just don’t get it. He CONSTANTLY under-performed his polls in the GOP primaries.

I don’t understand this either.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:00:15pm

This is a fucking candidate who has pledged to revise the libel laws because HE’S so sensitive to criticism.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:00:27pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

I just don’t get it. He CONSTANTLY under-performed his polls in the GOP primaries.

Stealth racists would be anti-D above all else, but might favor other Republicans that aren’t as blatant about it as Trump.

Still doesn’t explain the polls being off by 5-10%.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:00:28pm

Well, Bernie Bros, looks like there’s a good chance we’ll get to test out your “a Donald Trump” presidency will bring on the glorious progressive revolution” theory.

Oy, gevalt…

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:00:34pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes….but American angry idiots are the ones who went into the voting booths.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:00:38pm

re: #25 Scottishdragon

I don’t understand this either.

I’m close to being drunk right now and I have to work tomorrow.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:01:06pm

re: #17 Wozza Matter?

The poorest will be worse off.
Women will be worse off.
The Middle class will be worse off.
He openly talked about defaulting on the debt.
Supreme court gone for a generation.

…and they’ll still blame the Democrats, and the Democrats will have some long winded well thought out explanation that nobody will listen to.

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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:01:12pm

Did people think Hillary had such a lock on it that they didn’t bother to vote? Could that make up for it?

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kirkspencer  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:01:13pm

re: #22 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The court cases will go on hold now that he will be President. I forget the name of the doctrine, but you just can’t bring a case against the President unless it’s something he did in office, or if you’re a Republican.

That was revoked under the first Clinton. If it involves crimes or civil suits prior to the service it is open to continuation.

Of course, it may once more be IOKIYAR

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Wozza Matter?  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:01:19pm

He can’t handle a fucking twitter account

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Stephen T.  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:01:29pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

Stealth racists would be anti-D above all else, but might favor other Republicans that aren’t as blatant about it as Trump.

Still doesn’t explain the polls being off by 5-10%.

The pollsters didn’t ask the people who voted, they stuck with their “likely voter” rolls, and ignored the “haven’t voted since Reagan in ‘84” rolls.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:01:30pm

re: #24 Eric The Fruit Bat

I hope countries recall their ambassadors em-masse if Trump wins to send a message.

I heard the JSOS have said they will resign.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:02:02pm

We are possibly 30 mins from having a president elect who never served a second in public service. Embarrassing.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:02:03pm

re: #32 Shazam

Did people think Hillary had such a lock on it that they didn’t bother to vote? Could that make up for it?

I hate to say it, but that could well be it. Complacency.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:02:12pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

So to look at the polls now compared to where they were a day ago, the only conclusion I can come to is there are millions of my fellow Americans who are “Good Germans,” who saw the vile and noxious nature of Trump and said “I don’t want people I know to associate me with that” BUT STILL VOTED FOR HIM!

In other words, less honest versions of DF.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:02:48pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

re: #25 Scottishdragon

You also have to look at it in the light of Hillary Clinton, who also underperformed in all of her campaigns. When was the last time she won a primary be a surprisingly high margin?

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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:03:01pm

Typical Dem voter = complacent.
Typical Rep voter = rabid.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:03:05pm

re: #22 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The court cases will go on hold now that he will be President. I forget the name of the doctrine, but you just can’t bring a case against the President unless it’s something he did in office, or if you’re a Republican.

Not true, civil suits can proceed.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:03:22pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I’m close to being drunk right now and I have to work tomorrow.

When I get home tomorrow, I will probably guarantee myself a hangover at work tomorrow night.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:03:23pm

Can I talk about how big an asshole James Comey is now?

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:03:41pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I’m close to being drunk right now and I have to work tomorrow.

Excusable in this case… Fuck I live an ocean away, it’s 6AM here now and I’m too fucking terrified to go to bed even for a bit…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:03:51pm
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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:03:57pm

re: #32 Shazam

Did people think Hillary had such a lock on it that they didn’t bother to vote? Could that make up for it?

Hillary significantly underperforming with African Americans and young voters.

Oh fuck…Pennsylvania in play….and big chunk of uncounted votes will come from bright red county.

Hillary badly underperforming Obama.

Obama voters DID NOT SHOW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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scottslemmons  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:04:02pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

If it’s any consolation, from what we know of Trump’s M.O. he probably isn’t going to follow through on any of his campaign promises. I mean, does the guy EVER do what he says?

Part of the problem is going to be what we saw after the Brexit vote. Trump’s fans will take a win as permission to go out and shoot all the black people, Hispanics, Muslims, and LGBT people they want. They won’t care what Trump does to the economy — all they care about is killing brown people.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:04:13pm

re: #28 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Well, Bernie Bros, looks like there’s a good chance we’ll get to tezst out your “a Donald Trump” presidency will bring on the glorious progressive revolution” theory.

Oy, gevalt…

It probably will in about 30 years. Because even if Trump is one term, he’ll replace Scalia and at least one other I bet.

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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:04:21pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

I hate to say it, but that could well be it. Complacency.

That seemed like a pre-Comey risk, but when the polls started tightening and then EV turnout seemed record-breaking, I figured it wouldn’t be an issue. Unless, of course, it contributed to the 3rd-party idiots feeling safe…

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:04:29pm

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

Can I talk about how big an asshole James Comey is now?

Worst part of that, exec+senate+house being red means he’s going to suffer exactly 0 consequences for that…

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:04:44pm

Looking at the Iowa county-by-county results, some long time Democratic, or at least moderate-to-liberal counties, were taken by Drumpfskind.

This is important, because it shows how weak Hillary was as a choice. (Note: I’m not saying Bernie would have been better - I’m not a Bernie-Bro.)

Deeply held beliefs, even if totally wrong, are still too deeply held to be unfastened by casual arguments.

In the rural parts of this country there is a great deal of dismay at their growing relative poverty, compared to the richer cities.

And in places like Iowa, in Jasper county where there used to be factories that years ago made your Maytag washers and dryers, there is now a weak economy and empty buildings.

Drumpfskind carried Jasper County, one of the traditionally moderate counties in the state.

Places like Iowa and Wisconsin are not part of the old Confederacy (and indeed they were rabidly pro-Union and anti-Slavery.)

The DNC, sitting in their homes in California or in upscale apartments in NYC, do not relate to the countryside. In their myopia they have pushed a (often wrongly accused) Hillary because she was one of them.

But Hillary is not part of rural America.

And that is what we are seeing tonight.

I voted for Hillary not because she inspires me (and in California there was no threat of a Drumpfskind victory), but I dedicated that vote to my great grandmother, who was among the first women in her region to complete 12 years of schooling, and voted the first time it became available to her. And yes, she lived in that Jasper County about which I wrote above, long ago.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:04:48pm

Angry at the political establishment? Vote for the guy who wants to make a Reagan DOJ official, his AG and a former Speaker of the House, his SOS. I am sorry but I am tired of the naked hypocrisy by white working class voters. Oh and your pal Trump has profited heavily from trade deals. And I’m sorry but Bernie wouldn’t have been any better. You don’t think the GOP wouldn’t have pounced on a guy who called himself a democratic socialist when the country has large amounts of people who think any sort of socialist= Stalin and a guy who has no understanding at all for minority issues.

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iossarian  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:05:13pm

On the plus side we have 10-20 years of fantastic pop music coming up.

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[deleted]  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:05:28pm
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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:05:53pm

re: #40 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

You also have to look at it in the light of Hillary Clinton, who also underperformed in all of her campaigns. When was the last time she won a primary be a surprisingly high margin?

I will say it again:

I am proud to have voted for her.

She still was not our strongest candidate we could have put forward.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:06:04pm

re: #14 Kilroy was here

I wonder if Keith Olbermann is going to go into hiding.

The beauty of his GQ podcast is that he can tape it anywhere at anytime.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:06:06pm

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

Can I talk about how big an asshole James Comey is now?

Comey didn’t help with his fun and games, and neither did Roberts with his gutting of the VRA. May they both spend eternity hip deep in molten lead.

However, the problems are much deeper than that. A large majority of whites in this country want to undo at least 50 years of civil rights progress, and have no other political goals. It really is that simple and scary.

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Alyosha  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:06:09pm

Seems kinda fucked up that Glenn Beck would want to try for the mainstream just days before gold futures explode.

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Tyrion  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:06:09pm

Better yet, the cherry on the top is going to be that Hillary will end up winning the popular vote and losing the electoral college. Words escape me right now. I can’t say this was impossible cause anything can happen, but I am totally disgusted, mad and quite frankly, in shock at this.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:06:17pm
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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:06:19pm

re: #55 eatadicklgf

Go play in the freeway. You won’t be missed.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:07:00pm

The next 4 years:
Stock market crash
Top Democrats leaders imprisoned
N.A.T.O. disbanded
Russia moves into Baltic States and Eastern Europe
11 million hispanics ethnically cleansed from U.S.
Muslim-Americans in detention camps
Wall between church and state breaks down
Abortion outlawed
U.S.economy nose dives

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:07:09pm

re: #4 darthstar

In the immortal words of Frank Zappa, “Ain’t this boogie a mess?”

“The poodle bites
The poodle chews it”

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:07:13pm
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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:07:39pm

I don’t even.

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UnderTheRadar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:08:42pm

re: #40 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

You also have to look at it in the light of Hillary Clinton, who also underperformed in all of her campaigns. When was the last time she won a primary be a surprisingly high margin?

Seriously, this is not about Hillary. This is about what a frighteningly large part of America has now embraced proudly and publicly - racist, sexist, angry, bitter, vengeful. Previously, it was behind closed doors, now it is out in the open.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:08:46pm

Wisconsin slipping away.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:08:50pm

Known Knowns are now Unknown

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:08:50pm

I am hiding until 2020

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:08:51pm

From the last thread,

re: #464 Big Beautiful Door

Don’t worry; you’re white.

Slav. To the Aryans, we’re not white.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:09:01pm

re: #63 DodgerFan1988

The next 4 years:
Stock market crash
N.A.T.O. disbanded
Russia moves into Baltic States and Eastern Europe
11 million hispanics ethnically cleansed from U.S.
Muslim-Americans in detention camps
Wall between church and state breaks down
Abortion outlawed

Trump may want to be a dictator, but he isn’t. He’s only got four years.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:09:39pm

re: #19 Scottishdragon

No. He is going to say a lot….and we will see if Trump is going to start using the government to come after people who say a lot.

His past actions and words suggest he will.

Trump’s big disadvantage as an ethnic cleanser and dictator is that he does not, and cannot, have the same control over the security apparatus that Hitler or Milosovic had. Some of the pros will walk away, others will stay on and engage in sabotage and passive resistance at every opportunity. He will have to rely on mobs and loosely organized gangs put together from militias, tea party groups, fundy churches, etc. Goofballs like this are vicious but they don’t have a clue about vetting or opsec, with will present endless and amusing opportunities for infiltration and subversion.

Far from giving up, I intend to go die-hard on their asses.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:09:54pm

re: #56 Scottishdragon

Yes she was. The only other candidate who gave her a run wasn’t even a Democrat.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:10:02pm

Pennsylvania just flipped to Trump - however most of the outstanding votes are from urban (Clinton-leaning) areas.

Remaining Michigan votes are almost all in Detroit metro area, and Wisconsin are out of Milwaukee. Clinton is going to need a hail-mary to win.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:10:13pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Trump is going to prove incompetent to fix the economy. All his promises that “the jobs are coming back” and “coal is coming back” will be proven bullshit. And the people that get hurt will include his poor, ignorant, resentful supporters in rural America.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:10:30pm

I’m impressed. The American People proved far more stupid than I thought.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:10:38pm

A fellow Buckeye brother (he’s even from my hometown of Avon) is actually IN Canada on a business trip.

Send him some love if you can.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:11:05pm

re: #76 jaunte

Trump is going to prove incompetent to fix the economy. All his promises that “the jobs are coming back” and “coal is coming back” will be proven bullshit. And the people that get hurt will include his poor, ignorant, resentful supporters in rural America.

The thing is when he inevitably fails to deliver on his promises, those people are going to be even more resentful and angry, and they’re going to once again blame the wrong people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:11:20pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:11:23pm

re: #60 Tyrion

Better yet, the cherry on the top is going to be that Hillary will end up winning the popular vote and losing the electoral college. Words escape me right now. I can’t say this was impossible cause anything can happen, but I am totally disgusted, mad and quite frankly, in shock at this.

It’s 2000 all over again, the election thrown by voters either not showing up, voting third party in “protest,” or voting third party because “I don’t like either candidate.” All those thin-skulled little shits who will go out tomorrow seeing the world didn’t end overnight and figure “Hey, it can’t be all that bad.”

Had a acquaintance months ago point me to an article about how many Trump supporters and Bernie supporters were people with an authoritarian streak, they wanted somebody to step into the White House and “take charge.” After 8 years of Obama, I didn’t want to believe it, wanted to believe that those people were a minority or would wake up to the dangers presented. How the fuck did it come to this?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:11:27pm

Trump is up 10,000 in PA

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nickzi  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:11:33pm

re: #76 jaunte

Trump is going to prove incompetent to fix the economy. All his promises that “the jobs are coming back” and “coal is coming back” will be proven bullshit. And the people that get hurt will include his poor, ignorant, resentful supporters in rural America.

There’s a lot of mileage in resentment coupled with “explanations” that the Democrats fucked America over so badly that it will take years to fix.

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scottslemmons  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:11:40pm

re: #76 jaunte

Trump is going to prove incompetent to fix the economy. All his promises that “the jobs are coming back” and “coal is coming back” will be proven bullshit. And the people that get hurt will include his poor, ignorant, resentful supporters in rural America.

But again, they don’t care about the economy. A lot of his supporters are fairly well-off. What they care about is hating people who aren’t white. And Trump is going to give them all of that they want.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:11:54pm

re: #76 jaunte

Trump is going to prove incompetent to fix the economy. All his promises that “the jobs are coming back” and “coal is coming back” will be proven bullshit. And the people that get hurt will include his poor, ignorant, resentful supporters in rural America.

Yup. And the problem with the folks who voted for him in the first place is they’ll eat up any half-decent excuse blaming everything left of Genghis Khan* for that and vote for him with renewed fervor…

*yes I know, silly term to apply to anything that far back in time. sorry, still in total shock here.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:12:06pm
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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:12:22pm

Hillary will likely win popular vote(California will do that) but lose EC by a significant margin now.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:12:26pm

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” - H. L. Mencken

You asked for it, America. Now you’re going to get it.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:12:42pm

re: #76 jaunte

Trump is going to prove incompetent to fix the economy. All his promises that “the jobs are coming back” and “coal is coming back” will be proven bullshit. And the people that get hurt will include his poor, ignorant, resentful supporters in rural America.

But they will be fed bullshit in order to deflect their anger towards minorities, foreign countries, and whatever “other” is picked as a good target. The class war will be continue to be disguised as a race war or foreign war as necessary.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:12:45pm

i aint a movin’ nowheres

in three years the dumb bastard will be a danglin’ in the wind

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:13:12pm

My wife cried tonight after we voted. Her first time voting. Tears of hope. I consoled her and boasted of us playing our Woman Card with a sly grin.

I’m crying now and she’s consoling me.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:13:24pm

re: #86 Dr. Matt

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Can’t wait to see them mandate the watering of plants with Gatorade.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:13:32pm

I can’t wait for Trump’s first SOTU address.

//

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:13:43pm

re: #89 Feline Fearless Leader

But they will be fed bullshit in order to deflect their anger towards minorities, foreign countries, and whatever “other” is picked as a good target. The class war will be continue to be disguised as a race war or foreign war as necessary.

They want bullshit. They voted for bullshit.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:13:44pm

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel

Trump’s big disadvantage as an ethnic cleanser and dictator is that he does not, and cannot, have the same control over the security apparatus that Hitler or Milosovic had. Some of the pros will walk away, others will stay on and engage in sabotage and passive resistance at every opportunity. He will have to rely on mobs and loosely organized gangs put together from militias, tea party groups, fundy churches, etc. Goofballs like this are vicious but they don’t have a clue about vetting or opsec, with will present endless and amusing opportunities for infiltration and subversion.

Far from giving up, I intend to go die-hard on their asses.

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re: #73 Shiplord Kirel

Trump’s big disadvantage as an ethnic cleanser and dictator is that he does not, and cannot, have the same control over the security apparatus that Hitler or Milosovic had. Some of the pros will walk away, others will stay on and engage in sabotage and passive resistance at every opportunity. He will have to rely on mobs and loosely organized gangs put together from militias, tea party groups, fundy churches, etc. Goofballs like this are vicious but they don’t have a clue about vetting or opsec, with will present endless and amusing opportunities for infiltration and subversion.

Far from giving up, I intend to go die-hard on their asses.

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Remember the Danish example.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:13:53pm

re: #92 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Can’t wait to see them mandate the watering of plants with Gatorade.

/

After all, it’s got what plants crave!

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scottslemmons  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:14:07pm

re: #90 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i aint a movin’ nowheres

in three years the dumb bastard will be a danglin’ in the wind

He might be. But then Pence will be running things. Not really an improvement. :/

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:14:14pm

Well, it’s been, ummm, interesting. A minor issue compared to that of many, but I need to prepare myself to live with a depressed spouse for the next 4 years. Seriously.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:14:15pm

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel

Trump’s big disadvantage as an ethnic cleanser and dictator is that he does not, and cannot, have the same control over the security apparatus that Hitler or Milosovic had. Some of the pros will walk away, others will stay on and engage in sabotage and passive resistance at every opportunity. He will have to rely on mobs and loosely organized gangs put together from militias, tea party groups, fundy churches, etc. Goofballs like this are vicious but they don’t have a clue about vetting or opsec, with will present endless and amusing opportunities for infiltration and subversion.

Far from giving up, I intend to go die-hard on their asses.

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Trump will have the DOJ and some 20 odd intelligence agencies.

He can do a fucking amazing amount of damage…and Trump never ever lets enemies go unpunished. It is his defining character trait.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:14:18pm

I simply do not understand. Never will. Wouldn’t want to.

Fuck it, more coffee!

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:14:50pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

The thing is when he inevitably fails to deliver on his promises, those people are going to be even more resentful and angry, and they’re going to once again blame the wrong people.

Kansas.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:15:29pm

re: #91 BigPapa

This might be my last election. I don’t know that I want to vote in a country that just legitimized white nationalism in 2016.

Trump will be a disaster.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:15:30pm

re: #93 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I can’t wait for Trump’s first SOTU address.

//

Trump probably got his dick caught in a Russian honeytrap some time ago. A SOTU that is incoherent word salad will be the least of our troubles.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:15:52pm

re: #93 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I can’t wait for Trump’s first SOTU address.

//

From “Malice towards none and charity for all” to “Everyone who opposed me is going down.”. Sigh. I am sorry, I really am, and maybe it’s the six beers in me but I have never felt so cynical about our country. Sure, I didn’t like Bush and I went all the way to Pennsylvania to campaign against his re-election but at least he understood government and I don’t think would ever be like that to people who opposed him especially the press.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:15:57pm

re: #97 scottslemmons

He might be. But then Pence will be running things. Not really an improvement. :/

Highly probable that Evil Cotton Hill becomes the de-facto president. Ugh.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:16:00pm

re: #77 Varek Raith

I’m impressed. The American People proved far more stupid than I thought.

Hate, bigotry, and resentment may have just given the country its biggest setback in decades.

The GOP has been playing the long game and we all are going to take it in the pants for a long, long time after Trump has shuffled his mortal coil.

That said, the resistance starts now, beginning with prepping for 2018 and 2020 and mitigating what damage we can in the interim, if we can.

107
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:16:26pm

Remember all those top Pentagon guys who said they would quit if Trump got elected? I wonder if that will come to pass.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:16:39pm

My consolation tonight is that Car Thief is currently behind in his bid to get back into Congress.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:16:42pm
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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:16:44pm

re: #106 TedStriker

Hate, bigotry, and resentment may have just given the country its biggest setback in decades.

The GOP has been playing the long game and we all are going to take it in the pants for a long, long time after Trump has shuffled his mortal coil.

That said, the resistance starts now, beginning with prepping for 2018 and 2020 and mitigating what damage we can in the interim, if we can.

Indeed.

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nickzi  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:16:54pm

China must be looking on in amazement as we hand them the keys to sole superpower status.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:01pm

Well so much for that job offer I was hoping for…

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:08pm

The Atlantic

This city has had quite a day. The staffers here said early reports suggested low turnout in the strongly Democratic, heavily minority precincts in Philly, while the more Republican areas to the northeast saw big numbers of voters. Poll volunteers said they had lines out the door at the start of the day on Tuesday; at the heavily Puerto Rican precinct in North Philly that I visited this morning, hardly anyone was there at the start of the day.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:08pm

I don’t know what to say. I feel sick.

The guy is a vulgar, ignorant fascist **** with a two-minute attention span, half a personality, and a pair of tiny balls firmly in the warm hands of Vladimir Fucking Putin… And apparently half the country has just made him policy director.

So many “What the fuck happens now?” questions in my head.

If anybody tries to put my brown and trans and gay friends & family on a train, they’ll have to come through me first.

We may come out of this with the first Presidential recall in history, because the guy can’t even fucking form a complete sentence, he will NOT know how to run anything. At all. NOT A SINGLE THING.

We’re heading towards an imperium with Dump as figurehead and a horde of slimy fucksticks around him making the “decisions”.

I wonder if we’ll see top-level military resignations. That might be a help. If the top brass quits, that might be enough to send a message.

This guy would be a thug’s president. Nobody with a brain supports him. My small shred of hope is that the apparatus of government in all its forms looks at this guy and just says “No, we won’t do it.”

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:09pm

re: #108 freetoken

My consolation tonight is that Car Thief is currently behind in his bid to get back into Congress.

Yeah?
Haha!

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:19pm
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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:22pm

re: #87 Scottishdragon

Hillary will likely win popular vote(California will do that) but lose EC by a significant margin now.

re: #102 Lidane

This might be my last election. I don’t know that I want to vote in a country that just legitimized white nationalism in 2016.

Trump will be a disaster.

Please don’t go there. If someone here in some piddling mid-sized EU country does that, big deal. In the US? that’s another tiny step for total global chaos.
IOW, please do vote again :)

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:46pm

re: #111 nickzi

China must be looking on in amazement as we hand them the keys to sole superpower status.

And Vladimir Putin is likely laughing in stunned disbelief.

“I don’t believe it!”

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:48pm

re: #99 Scottishdragon

Trump will have the DOJ and some 20 odd intelligence agencies.

He can do a fucking amazing amount of damage…and Trump never ever lets enemies go unpunished. It is his defining character trait.

Nixon on steroids.

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whitebeach  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:54pm

The primary fault in all this is in ourselves, or at least in those of far too many of our compatriots—the obvious fault of racism and hatred of all kinds.

But the worst enablers, I think, were the media. Once upon a time, the press would have smacked Trump down from the first, would have made it clear that this was simply not acceptable in America under our own professed principles. But that was then. Now, the press is its own crappy reality show, living simply and only for ratings and bucks.

Also, a special tip of the hat to the FBI for the criminal knife in the back.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:57pm

re: #90 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i aint a movin’ nowheres

in three years the dumb bastard will be a danglin’ in the wind

This isn’t the end of America. Trump will be a one term president.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:17:59pm

re: #88 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” - H. L. Mencken

You asked for it, America. Now you’re going to get it.

And a lot of people that didn’t ask for it are going to get hurt or worse.

What a pile of fucking shit…

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RinaX  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:18:03pm

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

Remember all those top Pentagon guys who said they would quit if Trump got elected? I wonder if that will come to pass.

Nope.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:18:08pm

La lucha continua.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:18:10pm

re: #55 eatadicklgf

Stinky Beaumont is on your tracks.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:18:15pm

re: #109 Kragar

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:18:19pm

What do you think President Obama is thinking right now?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:18:26pm

and to think all the campaigning, the great convention, winning the debates, republicans split and fighting amongst themselves, all the polling that all looked so good

all useless. just self deception

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:18:29pm

re: #114 Pawn of the Oppressor

Populist Strong-Man is a well worn way to the top. Happens all the time around the world.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:18:38pm

Dow futures down almost 900 points now.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:19:14pm

Folks, there’s going to be a very long night counting all the ballots in PA and WI and MI.

Hopefully NV will be over soon.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:19:14pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

What do you think President Obama is thinking right now?

Probably wondering if this is what it was like to be a member of the Weimar gov’t as Hitler rose to power.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:19:33pm

re: #121 Big Beautiful Door

This isn’t the end of America. Trump will be a one term president.

He will do more than four years worth of damage though. The psychological damage has already started.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:19:39pm

So the alt-right may get the keys to the WH. Steve Bannon Press Secretary? When do the roundups start?

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:19:47pm

re: #114 Pawn of the Oppressor

No such thing as a recall mechanism for the presidency, alas.
(and in any case his fact-averse voter base would be more than up for blocking any such thing).

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:20:20pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:20:35pm

re: #135 ThomasLite

No such thing as a recall mechanism for the presidency, alas.

And an impeachment is probably out of the question.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:20:41pm

re: #130 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Dow futures down almost 900 points now.

The worst part of it all? The wingnuts will blame it on Obama.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:20:43pm
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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:20:44pm

re: #121 Big Beautiful Door

This isn’t the end of America. Trump will be a one term president.

His term may go for an indeterminate length. Proto Fascists are strange that way.

Pennsylvania looking real bad. Trump now ahead.

The failure of polling is fucking staggering.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:20:49pm

I think it is a mistake to blame the media. All that “free coverage” exposed Trump for the bankrupt lying fraud that he is. Millions of Americans simply didn’t care.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:20:53pm

re: #121 Big Beautiful Door

This isn’t the end of America. Trump will be a one term president.

But how many years will that one term be? And will we have to find out how good the Canadian Leopards are vs Abrams to help end that one term? I don’t trust them to ever willingly let go of power.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:20:54pm

And Holy fuck, the Supreme Court…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:02pm

re: #114 Pawn of the Oppressor

I don’t know what to say. I feel sick.

The guy is a vulgar, ignorant fascist **** with a two-minute attention span, half a personality, and a pair of tiny balls firmly in the warm hands of Vladimir Fucking Putin… And apparently half the country has just made him policy director.

So many “What the fuck happens now?” questions in my head.

If anybody tries to put my brown and trans and gay friends & family on a train, they’ll have to come through me first.

We may come out of this with the first Presidential recall in history, because the guy can’t even fucking form a complete sentence, he will NOT know how to run anything. At all. NOT A SINGLE THING.

We’re heading towards an imperium with Dump as figurehead and a horde of slimy fucksticks around him making the “decisions”.

I wonder if we’ll see top-level military resignations. That might be a help. If the top brass quits, that might be enough to send a message.

This guy would be a thug’s president. Nobody with a brain supports him. My small shred of hope is that the apparatus of government in all its forms looks at this guy and just says “No, we won’t do it.”

We don’t do coups. If we get our shit together, we can produce another Obama in 20-30 years.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:08pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

Probably wondering if this is what it was like to be a member of the Weimar gov’t as Hitler rose to power.

The Weimar government was unstable in the run-up to the Nazi seizure of power. They went through three Chancellors (IIRC) in no time at all. Then Hitler was given the Chancellorship through a back-room political deal.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:17pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

The worst part of it all? The wingnuts will blame it on Obama.

Guaran-damn-tee it.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:27pm

Doug Applegate
(Party Preference: DEM) 34,000
52.6%
* Darrell Issa
(Party Preference: REP) 30,583
47.4%

That’s with a quarter of the district counted.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:32pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

GOP controlled House and Senate?

Trump isn’t getting impeached

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:32pm

…and any semblance of trust in news organizations… or any thoughts of people holding any form of decency and decorum.

But Les Moonves proved that 18 months ago when he valued CBS’s bottom line over honesty.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:36pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

What do you think President Obama is thinking right now?

********

My guess?

I did what I could. and it is in God’s hands now.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:43pm

re: #117 ThomasLite

Why? Trump spent the last 18 months making scapegoats of Latinos and American voters just legitimized it. My own country just said that hating me is okay. What possible reason do I have to vote again?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:48pm

It’s really 244-209 CNN hasn’t called Utah yet

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:21:52pm

re: #6 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Doesn’t matter. There’s nothing standing between the Republicans and mob rule

And I’m incredibly disappointed in Stephen Colbert tonight

What did Colbert do?

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:22:03pm

re: #149 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Well, Nate Silver did model a close election.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:22:10pm

re: #141 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I think it is a mistake to blame the media. All that “free coverage” exposed Trump for the bankrupt lying fraud that he is. Millions of Americans simply didn’t care.

No, I don’t blame the media. In fact, I think the media actually did a good job.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:22:32pm

I’m glad that you peeps can keep up the talk… right now I’m just about stunned speechless. I know I’ll have plenty to say later on but for right now all I can say is that I underestimated the number of knuckle-dragging, proudly ignorant white assholes there are in our nation.

Wow…

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:22:57pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

And an impeachment is probably out of the question.

The GOP will NEVER impeach their own POTUS.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:23:25pm

re: #133 Feline Fearless Leader

He will do more than four years worth of damage though. The psychological damage has already started.

This is the nature of history. Sometimes terrible things happen. Then we have to pick ourselves up and rebuild. The GOP will get to enact its agenda, and we will relearn the lesson of 2008, and rebuild again.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:23:36pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

And an impeachment is probably out of the question.

I don’t know. Honestly, just a simple outsider perspective here but the whole R-led impeachment to get their dream president Pence in power doesn’t sound entirely impossible to me.
Lord knows he’ll give more than enough at least semi-plausible grounds for it and I’m reasonably sure (and hopeful) most D’s will happily go along with it. Pence is not a happy scenario by a long shot but it’s at least a functioning executive branch, if a distasteful one.
…At least the chances of Pence starting a nuclear war are pretty negligible…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:23:52pm

re: #154 freetoken

Well, Nate Silver did model a close election.

He did. It was the other outfits that blew it.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:23:59pm

re: #158 Big Beautiful Door

This is the nature of history. Sometimes terrible things happen. Then we have to pick ourselves up and rebuild. The GOP will get to enact its agenda, and we will relearn the lesson of 2008, and rebuild again.

The good guys don’t always win.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:24:14pm

re: #151 Lidane

Why? Trump spent the last 18 months making scapegoats of Latinos and American voters just legitimized it. My own country just said that hating me is okay. What possible reason do I have to vote again?

Like I said, the country’s white majority pretty much just screamed “GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY” in a far more unified and terrifying voice as we could have ever imagined.

It’s them reminding us that we’re not really Americans, we’re not allowed to be Americans, and will never be truly at home here, because this is their country, never ours, never shared. They own us.

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:24:29pm
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Belafon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:24:38pm

My nephew was going to join the Air Force. Unless she pulls off the last few states, he won’t be following in his parents’ footsteps.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:24:47pm

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

The good guys don’t always win.

As a Cleveland sports fan, I know this all too well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:24:59pm

Fox calls NV for Clinton.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:25:11pm

re: #142 William Lewis

But how many years will that one term be? And will we have to find out how good the Canadian Leopards are vs Abrams to help end that one term? I don’t trust them to ever willingly let go of power.

I believe Trump is too incompetent to be an effective dictator. Americans won’t accept a dictatorship.

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weave  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:25:21pm

Please remember that Trump is loyal to no one but himself. His ego will be all about his popularity rating. If the Republicans bring him a bill that polls unpopular, he’ll veto it even if it’s a normal GOP position. He’ll screw them over if it fits his own agenda.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:25:59pm

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

And Holy fuck, the Supreme Court…

Hopefully RBG can live another four years.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:26:16pm

I do blame the media, I blame the media for “both sider-ism,” for the idea that Trump was a “normal” candidate whose platform wasn’t an appeal to the worst in Americans, that he was “just as bad” as Hillary. Months spent obsessing about every fucking “scandal” under the sun, about her health, about her emails, about Benghazi, about the way she took her coffee. The media did the shittiest job possible because when they weren’t talking down Trump’s negatives, they were boosting hers. They made a man who hasn’t the first fucking clue about politics into a legitimate candidate for the presidency.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:26:24pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

I think that Colbert didn’t see this coming. But as the show unfolded, and the reality became all to clear, he didn’t seem to understand what a Trump victory would mean to his audience. The jokes had to be told, the prepared bits had to be played, and when he closed, he seemed to say that everything will be ok. I admittedly listened half-heartedly to the second half of the show, but I think he came up small.

172
HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:26:25pm

Clinton takes the lead in NH but I doubt that’s enough.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:26:25pm

re: #159 ThomasLite

Drumpf has a trial here in San Diego (which Hillary is carrying, btw) on Nov. 28th.

He has a good chance of perjuring himself if he takes the stand.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:26:37pm
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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:26:39pm

Wife’s ex- (my boss) just called from Tennessee to say that his vote wouldn’t have mattered anyway so he wrote in Vermin Supreme.

After I put him on blast (Tennessee had a lot closer chance than NE-3), I gave the phone to my wife because I couldn’t listen to his “both siderism” bullshit.

I asked him how long as a Wiccan he expects to have freedom of religion then passed the phone.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:26:45pm

The MSNBC folks look rattled.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:27:08pm

re: #160 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Wasn’t just the other outfits. Nobody wanted to believe it.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:27:25pm

re: #174 jaunte

As I proposed earlier, LA county will be enough to give Hillary the popular vote.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:27:27pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:27:28pm
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:27:56pm

re: #177 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Wasn’t just the other outfits. Nobody wanted to believe it.

Yeah; I admit, I didn’t either. Even if Hillary pulls this off, it’s a sobering moment.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:28:05pm

re: #180 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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It’s gonna be tough.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:28:10pm

re: #162 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Like I said, the country’s white majority pretty much just screamed “GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY” in a far more unified and terrifying voice as we could have ever imagined.

It’s them reminding us that we’re not really Americans, we’re not allowed to be Americans, and will never be truly at home here, because this is their country, never ours, never shared. They own us.

What kills me is that I can directly trace my family lines back to the 1700s to what is now Texas. The border jumped me. But American voters just told me that I’m not American enough and that hating me is okay.

This is heartbreaking.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:28:11pm

Some markets are crashing. Nasdaq futures halted trading when emergency brakes applied.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:28:25pm

re: #176 Scottishdragon

The MSNBC folks look rattled.

It’s the primaries all over again. The media spent months being his publicists, figuring he hadn’t a chance at winning the nomination. Then he won the nomination and they shrugged and said he couldn’t win the presidency, he was just too toxic for most of America.

Now he’s president…and they have no more excuses.

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whitebeach  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:28:29pm

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

I believe Trump is too incompetent to be an effective dictator. Americans won’t accept a dictatorship.

Really? You think that the average American is somehow smarter and better educated and just generally nicer than the average German was back in the day?

187
Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:29:00pm

We know from the campaign that Trump planned on delegating all foreign and domestic policy to his VP, so I guess congratulations are in order for President Pence?

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wheat-dogg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:29:01pm

re: #168 weave

Please remember that Trump is loyal to no one but himself. His ego will be all about his popularity rating. If the Republicans bring him a bill that polls unpopular, he’ll veto it even if it’s a normal GOP position. He’ll screw them over if it fits his own agenda.

That’s my assumption, too. I still believe Trump started this race just to make the GOP leadership eat shit. He’s been largely uncooperative in helping the downticket races, too. He ran as a Republican, but his personal ideology is “who the fuck knows?” The bigger problem is how pliable he is. If his advisors and Cabinet talk to him in just the right way, he’ll agree to most anything if he thinks he’s the one who came up with the idea.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:29:07pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:29:14pm

Drudge: TRUMP WINS IN HISTORIC UPRISING

Fuck you, Matt. You will go down in history as one of the leading instigators of a national calamity.

On the bright side, Joe Arpaio has been sent packing.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:29:15pm

re: #173 freetoken

Drumpf has a trial here in San Diego (which Hillary is carrying, btw) on Nov. 28th.

He has a good chance of perjuring himself if he takes the stand.

Fuck this, by now I’m rooting for president Pence. Just… gah.

(and this from someone who was AOK with W and preferred McCain until Obama really got into it once in office… this overton window shift is just beyond belief…)

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:29:52pm

re: #179 Kragar

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Won’t work.

The filibuster will be gone in January when McConnell gavels the Senate back into session. They have two years to do anything they like with no obstruction at all.

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S'latch  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:30:01pm

I’m not the same person I was just five or six hours ago. I will say nothing negative again. I need nothing special any longer. Only air, water, simple food, clothing, and shelter. I don’t need much sleep. The world I knew is gone and I think it was an illusion anyway. I appreciate all of you here. I especially appreciate you, Charles, for being a steady and reliable source of wisdom and direction. Good night.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:30:07pm

re: #189 Kragar

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Come January, the filibuster goes bye-bye. After that, the most the DNC can do is hold up bills in committee, at least until the GOP looks for a way to get around them. The only time a bill will get held up in the House…is when the “Freedom Caucus” says its not crazy enough to get their votes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:30:15pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Clinton takes the lead in NH but I doubt that’s enough.

Needs to pull out Pa, Mi, all of Maine and Nb’s 2d congressional district.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:30:32pm

re: #189 Kragar

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How?
D minorities in both House and Senate, most state legislatures in R hands - is there a bunch of procedural tricks I’m missing? Filibuster will be gonski ASAP so that’s not going to be it…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:30:40pm

re: #190 Shiplord Kirel

Drudge: TRUMP WINS IN HISTORIC UPRISING

Fuck you, Matt. You will go down in history as one of the leading instigators of a national calamity.

On the bright side, Joe Arpaio has been sent packing.

As has Mark Kirk.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:30:40pm

The guy is an idiot. We can’t be operated by an idiot. The car is just not going to run without any gas. These systems and bureaucracies and chains of decisions we have simply don’t operate when the top of the pyramid is a needy ignoramus who can’t string a compound sentence together.

There are men and women out in the hills in the dark tonight sleeping next to their guns who need competent leadership at the top. This isn’t a fucking game. Something’s gotta give.

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nickzi  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:30:44pm

Louis Jacobson ‏@loujacobson 5m5 minutes ago
Interesting: In NC, apparently late early vote ballots from Durham has put Cooper (D) back in lead for Gov and Stein (D) for AG

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iossarian  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:30:56pm

re: #186 whitebeach

Really? You think that the average American is somehow smarter and better educated and just generally nicer than the average German was back in the day?

Very much this. People are all like “it couldn’t happen here”. Well, get used to it happening. Human nature is human nature.

Greatest country on earth my backside.

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OhNoZombies!  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:31:09pm

Fear is the mind-killer, and we live in a country full of chicken-shits.
I’ve never used a Nazi reference, but the GOP has done a masterful job.
Goebbels would be proud.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:31:09pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

I wanted Trump to win the nomination. I felt Clinton had a better shot against him than a mainstream Republican. I was never really all that confident in Clinton’s abilities as a campaigner and figured that in a 47-47 dead heat she would come up short. For all we know Ted Cruz could have won in a landslide.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:31:15pm

re: #199 nickzi

Well that’s good I guess at least.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:31:20pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

If it’s any consolation, from what we know of Trump’s M.O. he probably isn’t going to follow through on any of his campaign promises. I mean, does the guy EVER do what he says?

But he will have a House and a Senate and soon a Supreme Court just champing at the bit to do EXACTLY what he has been promising.

I’m kind of shocked at some of the cavalier attitudes here (not you Ace-o-aces) that think everybody will come through four years of Trump and an all GOP government just fine. There are a lot of people in this country who are going to be in real danger and it makes me sick to even think about it.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:31:29pm

Democrats and Liberals that threw their votes by sitting out or voting third party can go fuck themselves.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:31:40pm

re: #190 Shiplord Kirel

Only after inflicting incredible damage over 20 years and facing jail time.

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RinaX  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:31:41pm

re: #175 Anymouse

Wife’s ex- (my boss) just called from Tennessee to say that his vote wouldn’t have mattered anyway so he wrote in Vermin Supreme.

After I put him on blast (Tennessee had a lot closer chance than NE-3), I gave the phone to my wife because I couldn’t listen to his “both siderism” bullshit.

I asked him how long as a Wiccan he expects to have freedom of religion then passed the phone.

You work for your wife’s ex? That’s probably the wrong thing to focus on here, but what?

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:32:12pm

Remember, in 2012 Obama got just 51.1% of the popular vote.

Hillary will come close to that, if California turn-out is as expected.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:32:17pm

re: #205 Dr. Matt

Democrats and Liberals that threw their votes by sitting out or voting third party can go fuck themselves.

As I said earlier, I do NOT want to hear it from the purer than thou who will be insisting that we would have won this only Bernie was nominated.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:32:21pm

re: #186 whitebeach

Really? You think that the average American is somehow smarter and better educated and just generally nicer than the average German was back in the day?

Germany had no significant history of democracy. We have had self-rule for centuries.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:32:30pm

re: #205 Dr. Matt

Democrats and Liberals that threw their votes by sitting out or voting third party can go fuck themselves.

Can I get an “Amen”?!

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:32:34pm

So this basically kills any effort to fight global warming g that involves the US, right? Somebody should call Vanuatu and say, sorry, a bunch of white people got scared, so now they’re gonna have to grow gills.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:32:40pm

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

I believe Trump is too incompetent to be an effective dictator. Americans won’t accept a dictatorship.

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

I believe Trump is too incompetent to be an effective dictator. Americans won’t accept a dictatorship.

Americans would LOVE a dictatorship. Somebody to take charge and chase away all their fears? sign them up

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:06pm

re: #202 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I wanted Trump to win the nomination. I felt Clinton had a better shot against him than a mainstream Republican. I was never really all that confident in Clinton’s abilities as a campaigner and figured that in a 47-47 dead heat she would come up short. For all we know Ted Cruz could have won in a landslide.

And Cruz as president would have been 10000 times less terrifying than Trump. All the theocratic apocalyptic bat-shit insane rhetoric besides, he’s got some baseline of competence and self-reflection (even if it doesn’t end up pointing the way we’d all prefer).

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:06pm

re: #204 BeachDem

Yeah.

One Muslim Lady here. Told me to buck up, and stand and not back down. Hopefully, eventually things will be ok.

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:15pm
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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:16pm

re: #199 nickzi

I wonder if the vote for POTUS has been affected????

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:19pm

re: #210 Big Beautiful Door

Germany had no significant history of democracy. We have had self-rule for centuries.

It’s “democracy” was only 1918-1933. A little over a decade before the Nazis came to power.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:21pm

re: #198 Pawn of the Oppressor

The guy is an idiot. We can’t be operated by an idiot. The car is just not going to run without any gas. These systems and bureaucracies and chains of decisions we have simply don’t operate when the top of the pyramid is a needy ignoramus who can’t string a compound sentence together.

There are men and women out in the hills in the dark tonight sleeping next to their guns who need competent leadership at the top. This isn’t a fucking game. Something’s gotta give.

We’ve been operated by an idiot twice in the past 30 years: the 80s and 00s. Both times, the moron on top just delegated everything to his cabal of henchmen who were the real centers of power. That way, when one of them did something that roiled the body politic, the moron at top could just shrug and say “I had no idea this was going on!”

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:22pm

re: #204 BeachDem

But he will have a House and a Senate and soon a Supreme Court just champing at the bit to do EXACTLY what he has been promising.

I’m kind of shocked at some of the cavalier attitudes here (not you Ace-o-aces) that think everybody will come through four years of Trump and an all GOP government just fine. There are a lot of people in this country who are going to be in real danger and it makes me sick to even think about it.

They’ll have total absolute control, owning all three branches and an absolute floor of at least half of the states under full GOP control. Constitutional Amendments aren’t out of the question at all with this.

We’re fucked for a generation.

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RinaX  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:50pm

re: #180 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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A good sentiment, and hopefully I’ll come around in a day or two.

But right now this Onion article sums up my feelings:

Link

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:33:59pm

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

Settle for “no shit”?

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:34:10pm

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

I believe Trump is too incompetent to be an effective dictator. Americans won’t accept a dictatorship.

A whole lot of voters are saying very loudly that they do. And Mussolini wasn’t especially competent either. But a shit load of Black Shirts makes up for that.

Just like a lot of Germans did in 1933. He did not ever get a majority but the rest were happy to aid and abet their crimes.

Like SK said, the resistance must start now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:34:18pm

re: #194 Targetpractice

Come January, the filibuster goes bye-bye. After that, the most the DNC can do is hold up bills in committee, at least until the GOP looks for a way to get around them. The only time a bill will get held up in the House…is when the “Freedom Caucus” says its not crazy enough to get their votes.

Its possible Obamacare won’t be repealed because the Freedom Caucus won’t agree to any replacement.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:34:20pm

In 2012, Obama got 1.62 million votes in WI.

Hillary is seriously underperforming him there.

That is the difference.

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b.d.  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:34:31pm

At least we won’t have Trump TV on our airwaves and the new boogeyman who is to blame for everything will be Chuck Schumer.

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Stephen T.  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:34:55pm

re: #225 freetoken

In 2012, Obama got 1.62 million votes in WI.

Hillary is seriously underperforming him there.

That is the difference.

This does mean that some of the people who voted for Obama in 2012 voted for Trump in 2016

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:35:29pm

re: #201 OhNoZombies!

Fear is the mind-killer, and we live in a country full of chicken-shits.
I’ve never used a Nazi reference, but the GOP has done a masterful job.
Goebbels would be proud.

The seeds were planted when the Fairness Doctrine was allowed to relapse in 1987.

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Alyosha  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:35:35pm

WTF happens with the treaty with Iran? Jesus.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:35:35pm

re: #221 RinaX

A good sentiment, and hopefully I’ll come around in a day or two.

But right now this Onion article sums up my feelings:

Link

I was an optimist going in today. I really really really thought that the American people would see through this asshole. Yes, Clinton has her problems but goddamn it people, really? Then again, we did go from JAems Buchanan to Abe Lincoln too.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:35:50pm

re: #227 Stephen T.

Wisconsin turnout appears to be below 2012.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:35:57pm

Number 2: “Exactly, that’s what’s worrying me. Very bad for morale. Some of these good people don’t seem to appreciate the value of free elections. They think it’s a game.”

Prisoner: “Everyone votes for a dictator.”

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:36:02pm

Looks like Jill Stein is screwing Hillary in New Hampshire, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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Skip Intro  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:36:05pm

re: #213 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Americans would LOVE a dictatorship. Somebody to take charge and chase away all their fears? sign them up

They certainly would, and lucky them, they’re about to get one.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:36:11pm

re: #229 Alyosha

WTF happens with the treaty with Iran? Jesus.

That’ll be torn up and bombing will commence shortly thereafter.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:36:33pm

re: #213 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Americans would LOVE a dictatorship. Somebody to take charge and chase away all their fears? sign them up

I refuse to believe that.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:36:36pm

re: #221 RinaX

A good sentiment, and hopefully I’ll come around in a day or two.

But right now this Onion article sums up my feelings:

Link

Oh I totally agree with that.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:36:47pm

re: #233 Single-handed sailor

In PA, Gary Johnson took 2.4%.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:37:01pm

It’s not looking good but it’s still not over. HRC just won Nevada

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bmoak  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:37:14pm

re: #229 Alyosha

WTF happens with the treaty with Iran? Jesus.

Iran will be nuclear within 5-10 years. Some other countries possible as well.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:37:29pm

re: #233 Single-handed sailor

Looks like Jill Stein is screwing Hillary in New Hampshire, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

I think the number of BoBers was way higher than expected.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:37:34pm

re: #239 Charles Johnson

It’s not looking good but it’s still not over. HRC just won Nevada

This may come down to the wire.

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Alyosha  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:37:41pm

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

That’ll be torn up and bombing will commence shortly thereafter.

And the Paris Accord? Jesus…

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:37:42pm

re: #229 Alyosha

WTF happens with the treaty with Iran? Jesus.

Whither NATO?
Is he really going to pursue prosecuting Clinton?
Environmental issues?

Even if he only does half of what he’s promised, he’s gonna fuck shit up.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:37:43pm

re: #233 Single-handed sailor

Looks like Jill Stein is screwing Hillary in New Hampshire, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

JILL Stein replaces Ralph Nader as the biggest asshole in politics of the last hundred years.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:38:13pm

re: #243 Alyosha

And the Paris Accord? Jesus…

That’s gone under a President Trump.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:38:27pm
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nickzi  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:38:35pm

re: #244 makeitstop

Whither NATO?
Is he really going to pursue prosecuting Clinton?
Environmental issues?

Even if he only does half of what he’s promised, he’s gonna fuck shit up.

Half? We’ll be lucky if he stops at 27%!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:38:41pm

re: #214 ThomasLite

I disagree about Cruz being less destructive than Trump. Cruz is gung ho about pushing the GOP agenda, which is not all that far from Trump’s. Cruz is smarter than Trump, and could probably get more of his shit done. Trump will let the GOP do whatever t wants to our rights, he doesn’t care.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:38:53pm

re: #244 makeitstop

Whither NATO?
Is he really going to pursue prosecuting Clinton?
Environmental issues?

Even if he only does half of what he’s promised, he’s gonna fuck shit up.

NATO? Gone. It’s every man for himself now.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:39:19pm

re: #207 RinaX

You work for your wife’s ex? That’s probably the wrong thing to focus on here, but what?

I applied for my editing job not knowing who he was.

He did not know I was married to her.

Only after I got the job did his name come across to her, and she was like “oh, wow.”

The Death Penalty has been re-instated in Nebraska by a 2-1 margin. Governor Ricketts bought his way around the override of his veto in the Unicameral.

Congratulations, Nebraska?

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:39:29pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

The worst part of it all? The wingnuts will blame it on Obama.

A lot of Democrats will blame it on Obama.

I wonder how he is feeling about now?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:40:09pm

re: #229 Alyosha

WTF happens with the treaty with Iran? Jesus.

OR the Americans who have pre-existing conditions who will lose their health insurance because the GOP can’t accept that ACA was passed. Damn it all. We elected Obama eight years ago and I really thought it was going to be the start of a new beginning. Sure, our problems weren’t going to disappear over night but I looked toward to a President that I know wouldn’t authorize torture, would work towards the EQUALITY of ALL Americans, that cared about how the world saw us, and then just eight years later we replace him with a bigoted seixst piece of shit who cynically uses the frustration people have with trade deals signed by Republicans no less and exploited by him for his own wealth to gain power. I really hope those “angry” blue collar types are happy. You fucked over people because you would rather live in a past that never was told to you by the most unqualified person who ever sought this office simply because you would rather hear Anti-Washington rhetoric.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:40:13pm

re: #198 Pawn of the Oppressor

The guy is an idiot. We can’t be operated by an idiot. The car is just not going to run without any gas. These systems and bureaucracies and chains of decisions we have simply don’t operate when the top of the pyramid is a needy ignoramus who can’t string a compound sentence together.

There are men and women out in the hills in the dark tonight sleeping next to their guns who need competent leadership at the top. This isn’t a fucking game. Something’s gotta give.

we’ll be stuck in the back seat while he crashes it into things

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:40:17pm

re: #236 Big Beautiful Door

I refuse to believe that.

They just voted for it.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:40:31pm

re: #249 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I disagree about Cruz being less destructive than Trump. Cruz is gung ho about pushing the GOP agenda, which is not all that far from Trump’s. Cruz is smarter than Trump, and could probably get more of his shit done. Trump will let the GOP do whatever t wants to our rights, he doesn’t care.

Trump will be too busy as the star of his brand new reality show, “1600 Pennsylvania Avenue”.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:40:37pm

My heart hurts. I may need to take a break for a few days just to process and come to terms with and figure out what this means on the practical side of things, as this has some serious repercussions here (like in many households). I don’t know. We’ll see.

The temptation for another drink is strong but doesn’t solve anything and I’m sick enough to my stomach without it.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:40:39pm

Here we go.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:40:50pm

re: #224 Big Beautiful Door

Its possible Obamacare won’t be repealed because the Freedom Caucus won’t agree to any replacement.

They don’t want a replacement. That is why the GOP never came up with one. They’ll agree to repealing the ACA all right, along with privatising Medicare and the VA.

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weave  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:40:52pm

Why hasn’t Salt Lake City had any results? Is it still possible for Mcmullin to take that state and keep Trump from 270 if Michigan holds? Could I hope the House would do the right thing and elect him over Trump?

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:41:14pm
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nickzi  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:41:18pm

re: #252 ObserverArt

A lot of Democrats will blame it on Obama.

I wonder how he is feeling about now?

Devastated. But, it must be said, he and the Democratic party did not do remotely enough to organize at the local level, find good candidates and make the Democrats the party that they should have been. Complacency has cost us dearly - and I hope it hasn’t wrecked the Republic.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:41:21pm

re: #205 Dr. Matt

Democrats and Liberals that threw their votes by sitting out or voting third party can go fuck themselves.

Structural issue right there. Say what you will of the political right, they’re better at keeping the whole crowd together and working towards whatever objective they share than the political left (certainly the further-left elements).
It’s not just the I-want-my-pony-NOW mentality on the further fringes but the total bloody apathy in large blocs of the voting public.

Same with the whole awful Brexit mess.

You know what, though - I can see a lot of advantages to two-party systems, especially with keeping things comprehensible to less active participants but feth this. this is what happens with binary votes.
For all the gak our (NL) parliamentary system creates at least the sensible elements on the right (hi) can band together with the sensible center-left bloc(s) and get a 76 (out of 150) majority together. We marginalise both the Wilders bunch and the complete fairytale-budget socialist party (at a good 20+ seats each, so not minor elements!) and, more or less, get things done responsibly (mostly).
It’s just that any such thing in the US would result in about eleventy-nine different left wing groups with no political power whatsoever and an even stronger conservative (in the bad sense) hegemony…

Blegh.
Sorry for the rant, just pretty seriously upset now this is sinking in…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:41:38pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:41:39pm

re: #255 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

They just voted for it.

No, they didn’t. They voted for a president, not a dictator.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:42:23pm

re: #261 teleskiguy

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Yeah and Andrew Jackson freely practiced genocide on millions of people.

Fuck you, Giuliani.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:42:39pm

re: #259 Anymouse

They don’t want a replacement. That is why the GOP never came up with one. They’ll agree to repealing the ACA all right, along with privatising Medicare and the VA.

No, too many Republican voters rely on Medicare.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:42:40pm

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

Can I talk about how big an asshole James Comey is now?

FBI Director James Comey on July 7, 2016, before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in Washington, D.C.
J. Scott Applewhite — AP
This chart points to a tilt in Trump’s favor.
Since last Friday, when FBI director James Comey publicized his revival of a criminal investigation relating to Hillary Clinton’s emails, races in six battleground states—representing 85 electoral votes—have swung sharply in Donald Trump’s favor, according to at least one measure.

Between October 28, the day Comey wrote his letter to Congress—publicized in a tweet at 12:57 pm by Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee—and November 3, Clinton’s chances of winning Florida and North Carolina fell from 66% and 65% respectively, to a coin-toss, about 50%, in each state, according to Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight blog. Much the same happened in Nevada, though she clung to a 52% chance there.

Meanwhile, nearly even races in Arizona, Iowa, and Ohio, where the site rated her chances at 49% 51%, and 50% last Friday, now seem to be long shots for her, with Trump given 71%, 72% and 67% chances of victory.

fortune.com

So yeah, fuck Comey, and fuck the media for not calling it for the bullshit it was.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:42:41pm

re: #219 Targetpractice

W and Raygun are Rhodes scholars compared to Trump. They could hold thoughts in their heads and consider situations from multiple angles (the wrong angles, sure, but they could do it). They also had basic senses of interpersonal decency.

We’ve had incompetent Presidents before, during tough times even, but I don’t think a one of them was this broken as a person. I’m honestly not sure. The pre-Civil War Presidents were failures, but we didn’t have nuclear weapons then.

Out of altitude, out of airspeed, out of ideas. Shrug.

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Stephen T.  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:42:45pm

re: #265 Big Beautiful Door

No, they didn’t. They voted for a president, not a dictator.

He’s not a dictator…

yet.

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Alyosha  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:42:51pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

OR the Americans who have pre-existing conditions who will lose their health insurance because the GOP can’t accept that ACA was passed. Damn it all. We elected Obama eight years ago and I really thought it was going to be the start of a new beginning. Sure, our problems weren’t going to disappear over night but I looked toward to a President that I know wouldn’t authorize torture, would work towards the EQUALITY of ALL Americans, that cared about how the world saw us, and then just eight years later we replace him with a bigoted seixst piece of shit who cynically uses the frustration people have with trade deals signed by Republicans no less and exploited by him for his own wealth to gain power. I really hope those “angry” blue collar types are happy. You fucked over people because you would rather live in a past that never was told to you by the most unqualified person who ever sought this office simply because you would rather hear Anti-Washington rhetoric.

I know. I shed a tear for Obama’s legacy. I’m only now realising the global ramifications.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:43:00pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

OR the Americans who have pre-existing conditions who will lose their health insurance because the GOP can’t accept that ACA was passed. Damn it all. We elected Obama eight years ago and I really thought it was going to be the start of a new beginning. Sure, our problems weren’t going to disappear over night but I looked toward to a President that I know wouldn’t authorize torture, would work towards the EQUALITY of ALL Americans, that cared about how the world saw us, and then just eight years later we replace him with a bigoted seixst piece of shit who cynically uses the frustration people have with trade deals signed by Republicans no less and exploited by him for his own wealth to gain power. I really hope those “angry” blue collar types are happy. You fucked over people because you would rather live in a past that never was told to you by the most unqualified person who ever sought this office simply because you would rather hear Anti-Washington rhetoric.

It will be generations before anybody has the nerve to try to pass a health care bill again.

It’s done for the rest of my life.

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RinaX  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:43:03pm

re: #251 Anymouse

Ah, ok. But wow.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:43:28pm

re: #258 Dr. Matt

Here we go.

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It’s the fucking UK all over again when Brexit passed and all the UK nativists shouting “Go home” to all the immigrants. This is my home. I ain’t going anywhere but I have never ever been more cynical about our country after tonight. Even if Clinton somehow pulls this out, we have a large amount of people in this country ready and willing to embrace right wing fascism in a time of economic prosperity. I shutter to think what we’d do if we were in another economic downturn like we were eight years ago. And to President Obama, as a white American male, I’m sorry, I really am, you deserved better from us. You were the first man I ever voted for President and I’ll always be proud of that. Thank you for being a great President.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:43:47pm

re: #261 teleskiguy

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Jesus.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:43:48pm
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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:43:50pm

re: #267 Big Beautiful Door

No, too many Republican voters rely on Medicare.

When did that ever stop them??

Block grant to the states.

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Weaselone  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:44:09pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

I hope not. They resign, and Trump’s men take control by default. It’s better if he has to take the effort to ferret them out.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:44:20pm

CNN still has a few out, but it would be a nail-biter for sure:

NE-2, ME, NH, MI, PA, WI, UT, AZ, AK

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:44:21pm

re: #256 Dr Lizardo

1600 Penn was actually a funny show… I liked it. I’d rather have Josh Gad in there with his family.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:44:45pm

re: #272 Scottishdragon

It will be generations before anybody has the nerve to try to pass a health care bill again.

It’s done for the rest of my life.

I’ll be a senior the next time someone tries probably if at all. Sigh. I’m lucky. I was able to qualify for SSDI so I still have my insurance but a lot of other people? Nope.

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scottslemmons  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:44:52pm

re: #240 bmoak

Iran will be nuclear within 5-10 years. Some other countries possible as well.

The problem is that going nuclear won’t help them now. Bush and Co. didn’t want to pick fights with nuclear-armed countries because they wanted easy marks in the win column. Trump and his ego don’t care — he knows he has a nice safe bunker and will survive any nuclear exchange, and Pence is a religious nut and probably wants Armageddon.

The smart countries, including our allies, should be putting their money in quieter methods of keeping things peaceful.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:44:59pm

re: #267 Big Beautiful Door

We will see. Everything will be in place for an attack on SSI.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:45:09pm

re: #277 Scottishdragon

When did that ever stop them??

Block grant to the states.

Then GOP voters will have gotten what they deserve. But I don’t think block granting Medicare can get through Congress; I really don’t.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:45:14pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

I’ll be a senior the next time someone tries probably if at all. Sigh. I’m lucky. I was able to qualify for SSDI so I still have my insurance but a lot of other people? Nope.

I don’t know where my sister falls. She may lose hers.

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VaughnIAM  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:45:36pm

Bringing this comment over from the dead thread………
Well it sure looks like our Democrats in the Senate are going to be busy filibustering just about everything that comes to the floor for a vote for the next 4 years.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:45:45pm

re: #263 ThomasLite

As my Dutch mother would say: Godverdomme…..

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Stephen T.  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:46:02pm

re: #286 VaughnIAM

Bringing this comment over from the dead thread………
Well it sure looks like our Democrats in the Senate are going to be busy filibustering just about everything that comes to the floor for a vote for the next 4 years.

The fillibuster will be gone on day one in January.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:46:02pm

re: #251 Anymouse

The Death Penalty has been re-instated in Nebraska by a 2-1 margin. Governor Ricketts bought his way around the override of his veto in the Unicameral.

Congratulations, Nebraska?

Now where is Nebraska going to procure the drugs necessary for their preferred method of execution, lethal injection?

If states are going to implement the death penalty they should employ a firing squad or guillotine. Don’t fuckin’ pussyfoot Governor Ricketts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:46:02pm

re: #271 Alyosha

I know. I shed a tear for Obama’s legacy. I’m only now realising the global ramifications.

It’s depressing as hell. I really wanted my niece to live in a world where she could see a woman in the Oval Office and think “Me too!” instead she’ll be coming of age watching a man who has had multiple women accuse him of sexual assault and shows no respect at all to women as her President.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:46:11pm

re: #286 VaughnIAM

Bringing this comment over from the dead thread………
Well it sure looks like our Democrats in the Senate are going to be busy filibustering just about everything that comes to the floor for a vote for the next 4 years.

Nah, McConnell will nuke the filibuster come January 2017.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:46:13pm

re: #265 Big Beautiful Door

No, they didn’t. They voted for a president, not a dictator.

I disagree.

They voted for a strongman who would punish the people they don’t like. He explicitly promised that he would go after people who did not look like white rural Americans. They approved.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:46:14pm

re: #265 Big Beautiful Door

They voted for a man who promised he would personally solve their problems. They voted for a Congress that will let him. They voted for a Senate that will create a Supreme Court that won’t stand in the way.

Notable dictatorships in the past had a king (or Emperor) who could have stopped him. They had a Parliament (or Diet, or whatever) that could have refused to pass his laws. Yet the “President” ruled unchecked.

TheyWe voted for a dictatorship.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:46:45pm

re: #265 Big Beautiful Door

No, they didn’t. They voted for a president, not a dictator.

They voted for a dictator, and they knew it.

Sue the press.
Round up people.
“Why can’t we use our nukes.”
“Grab ‘em by the pussy.”

They voted open-eyed for that. Yes, they voted for a dictator and they did it willingly. Even Hitler had to build a coalition first.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:47:00pm

re: #284 Big Beautiful Door

Then GOP voters will have gotten what they deserve. But I don’t think block granting Medicare can get through Congress; I really don’t.

Oh? It is what Ryan has been salivating over.

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bmoak  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:47:10pm

re: #284 Big Beautiful Door

Then GOP voters will have gotten what they deserve. But I don’t think block granting Medicare can get through Congress; I really don’t.

It’ll pass easily. All Ryan/McConnell have to do is that Medicare will stay as it is for those 55+, but they have to “fix” it for future generations.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:47:31pm

Fox saying Trump won both college educated and non college educated white males.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:47:40pm

re: #285 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know where my sister falls. She may lose hers.

It’s so awful. The only reason why the gutless fucking Republicans opposed ACA was the man who proposed it. It literally was their response to Bill Clinton’s health care plan in the 90’s and their last nominee’s plan that he passed as governor of MA and that he even bragged that should be a model for the US.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:47:46pm

re: #286 VaughnIAM

Bringing this comment over from the dead thread………
Well it sure looks like our Democrats in the Senate are going to be busy filibustering just about everything that comes to the floor for a vote for the next 4 years.

Filibuster will be gone 5 minutes after Turtle head starts the next Senate session.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:47:51pm
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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:47:52pm

re: #249 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I disagree about Cruz being less destructive than Trump. Cruz is gung ho about pushing the GOP agenda, which is not all that far from Trump’s. Cruz is smarter than Trump, and could probably get more of his shit done. Trump will let the GOP do whatever t wants to our rights, he doesn’t care.

I see your point, and I’ll apologise: I’m an ocean away and I’m really more concerned with the US being more or less the same (or at least similar) as a stabilising factor on the international stage. I understand your point when it comes to domestic policy. Again, sorry.

re: #264 Charles Johnson

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I understand those with a functioning conscience couldn’t possibly work for that admin but hell, the ones who would are the ones I’d fervently hope would stay, if only as a tempering force.
The last thing you want is the whole top of the military hierarchy taken over by tea-party nuts.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:48:05pm

The Californian SoS vote counting, or at least reporting, seems to be stuck.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:48:22pm

re: #284 Big Beautiful Door

Then GOP voters will have gotten what they deserve. But I don’t think block granting Medicare can get through Congress; I really don’t.

It’s in the bloody GOP platform. They will have a majority in both houses. Why not?

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:48:40pm

re: #295 Scottishdragon

Oh? It is what Ryan has been salivating over.

And privatizing social security.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:48:42pm

re: #300 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is what I’m going to hold onto tonight and I will take his advice.

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retired cynic  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:48:49pm

I can’t do anymore. I’m just sick. Quitting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:05pm

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox saying Trump won both college educated and non college educated white males.

This college educated white male hates the way his demographic votes.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:07pm

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

I believe Trump is too incompetent to be an effective dictator. Americans won’t accept a dictatorship.

Yet we thought Americans wouldn’t accept someone like Trump as President… look what happened.

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kirkspencer  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:08pm

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox saying Trump won both college educated and non college educated white males.

It’s the misogyny.

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Stephen T.  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:22pm

re: #309 kirkspencer

It’s the misogyny.

And race

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:29pm

re: #287 Eric The Fruit Bat

As my mother would say: Godverdomme…..

It’s gotten a bit more colourful here by now, but that’s a good start :)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:42pm
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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:46pm

re: #304 MsJ

And privatizing social security.

And privatising the VA. There goes my medical care.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:50pm

re: #295 Scottishdragon

Oh? It is what Ryan has been salivating over.

Paul Ryan isn’t the Congress. There are lots of Congressman who will face the wrath of millions of Republicans when a bill to voucherize their medicare comes up. Remember how privatizing social security totally flopped?

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:49:57pm

re: #224 Big Beautiful Door

Its possible Obamacare won’t be repealed because the Freedom Caucus won’t agree to any replacement.

You mean you believed the GOP talking point of “repeal and replace”? Ridiculous. The ACA will be repealed in Jan of 2017 and replaced with nothing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:50:12pm

re: #300 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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I guess I shouldn’t get too hyperbolic, people like Mr. Takei literally experienced internment because of their ethnicity. I guess why I feel sad and this is a reoccuring theme in our history, it just feels like whenever we make progress, we take step backs. To quote, Peter, Paul, and Mary, when will they ever learn?

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:50:36pm

re: #300 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Well, George, now we know how Star Trek’s WWIII got started…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:50:51pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

I guess I shouldn’t get too hyperbolic, people like Mr. Takei literally experienced internment because of their ethnicity. I guess why I feel sad and this is a reoccuring theme in our history, it just feels like whenever we make progress, we take step backs. To quote, Peter, Paul, and Mary, when will they ever learn?

One step forward, two steps back.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:51:23pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

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We saw what happened with the FBI and Trump-supporting agents two weeks ago.

If anything they need to be resolute and defiant.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:51:35pm

re: #315 EPR-radar

You men you believed the GOP talking point of “repeal and replace”? Ridiculous. The ACA will be repealed in Jan of 2017 and replaced with nothing.

Oh no! The Republicans are going to take away the state lines so you can buy junk policies that won’t cover doodley-squat. And let’s not forget Joni Ernst who says that the churches will take care of the truly needy…

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:51:40pm

re: #308 GlutenFreeJesus

Yet we thought Americans wouldn’t accept someone like Trump as President… look what happened.

Big difference between a president and a dictator.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:51:45pm

re: #318 Dr Lizardo

One step forward, two steps back.

It’s like how we went from going from the promise of the Great Society and LBJ being the best president we ever had on Civil Rights to that point after Lincoln to Nixon who had happily embraced Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:51:46pm

From LGM

Carte Blanche for the GOP. Here’s what to expect in the first 100 days.

1) Repeal of ACA. No replacement
2) End of Medicare - replaced by vouchers for those under 55
3) Approval of all pipelines, fracking, offshore drilling, and drilling in public lands
4) Reversal of EPA anti-global warming provisions
5) End of all voting rights act enforcement (don’t like it? sue! No way the new SCOTUS intervenes)
6) Approval of a far right SCOTUS judge
7) Massive tax cuts for the rich, increased taxes on poor

That means I would lose my medicare, and Ryan et al have been wanting to go after social security disability as well…

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:51:46pm
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kirkspencer  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:51:54pm

re: #310 Stephen T.

And race

No. Obama showed it wasn’t race.

I got to listen to two males of my acquaintance yesterday tell me they were voting for Trump because they didn’t think a woman should be - could be - president of a nation this large. Both had campaigned for Obama.

It’s the misogyny.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:52:14pm

re: #321 Big Beautiful Door

Not so with Donald and his voters.

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FlowerPower  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:52:16pm

I’m seriously stunned. I work for a federal agency, I don’t know how I can go to work everyday and see his picture on the wall for four years. I’m going to get an ulcer. America, I am disappoint.

At least the Trump supporters can use their real slogan in public: “Make America great for white men again.”

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:52:25pm

re: #289 teleskiguy

Now where is Nebraska going to procure the drugs necessary for their preferred method of execution, lethal injection?

If states are going to implement the death penalty they should employ a firing squad or guillotine. Don’t fuckin’ pussyfoot Governor Ricketts.

I suspect the electric chair will return. Hanging has been used here in the past too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:52:25pm

Would Trump be the oldest person ever elected President?

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:52:34pm

Pro skier from Pittsburgh tweeting a list of border crossings along the U.S./Canada border:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:52:37pm

So where do we go from here? The GOP doesn’t have big majorities in Congress. The Democrats were able to gain majorities in 2006, so maybe they can get their stuff together in two years. The Dems will inevitably bring up young blood Like Casto and Booker, and maybe Duckworth for 2020.

Well, I can dream anyway.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:53:08pm
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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:53:23pm

re: #327 FlowerPower

I’m seriously stunned. I work for a federal agency, I don’t know how I can go to work everyday and see his picture on the wall for four years. I’m going to get an ulcer. America, I am disappoint.

At least the Trump supporters can use their real slogan in public: “Make America great for white men again.”

You’re not the only one. I’m honestly considering putting in my retirement papers but I’m fearful that Trump will screw me out of my Civil Service pension.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:53:30pm

re: #320 Joe Bacon

Oh no! The Republicans are going to take away the state lines so you can buy junk policies that won’t cover doodley-squat. And let’s not forget Joni Ernst who says that the churches will take care of the truly needy…

I have to thank God that mine actually does. But for all their efforts, it won’t be enough for the surgery I need, for example.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:53:31pm
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Alyosha  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:53:52pm

My sister in law is terrified we’ll be going to war again. I’m trying to say that it won’t happen, but I’ve been reassuring her for the last year and a half that Trump would never have the White House.
My words seem so empty now.
She’s a teacher. I could only ask her to teach her students critical thinking.
I fucked up.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:54:00pm

re: #331 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

So where do we go from here? The GOP doesn’t have big majorities in Congress. The Democrats were able to gain majorities in 2006, so maybe they can get their stuff together in two years. The Dems will inevitably bring up young blood Like Casto and Booker, and maybe Duckworth for 2020.

Well, I can dream anyway.

I’m trying to find a glass half full (hard as hell after tonight) but my hope is in 2020, people will see the damage electing someone with no understanding of governmetn at all did and vote a mass Democratic wave in 2020 but I’m worried about what will happen in the interim. So much at stake.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:54:01pm

re: #331 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

So where do we go from here? The GOP doesn’t have big majorities in Congress. The Democrats were able to gain majorities in 2006, so maybe they can get their stuff together in two years. The Dems will inevitably bring up young blood Like Casto and Booker, and maybe Duckworth for 2020.

Well, I can dream anyway.

I’ll try to dig up the 538 piece on that from earlier tonight - it wasn’t exactly positive. There’s a lot of ‘red turf’, as they put it, which went blue in 2014 which is up for grabs so it might be going from bad to worse.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:54:04pm

re: #329 Eclectic Cyborg

Would Trump be the oldest person ever elected President?

Yes, for his first term. Reagan was older when reelected.

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:54:28pm

re: #329 Eclectic Cyborg

Would Trump be the oldest person ever elected President?

Yes. Reagan was the oldest at 69.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:54:30pm

Wow, I thought Reagan was older…

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:54:46pm

re: #331 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

So where do we go from here? The GOP doesn’t have big majorities in Congress. The Democrats were able to gain majorities in 2006, so maybe they can get their stuff together in two years. The Dems will inevitably bring up young blood Like Casto and Booker, and maybe Duckworth for 2020.

Well, I can dream anyway.

Not looking good. In 2018 there are 25 Democratic and only 8 Republican Senate seats up for election. The Kochs will once again pour a billion dollars into Republican coffers to buy more Republican ribber stamps.

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bratwurst  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:55:11pm
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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:55:21pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:55:34pm

Just grabbing onto glimmers of hope here:

Arizona - Trump at +59k votes
Michigan - Trump at +35k votes - 75% precincts reporting (majority in Detroit metro)
Wisconsin- Trump at +86k votes - 85% precincts (Milwaukee/Madison outstanding)
Pennsylvania - Trump at +2k - 95% precincts
New Hampshire - Trump +15 votes - 81% precincts
Minnesota - Clinton +90k - 82% precincts
Maine - Clinton +15k - 78%

Arizona is a given for Trump. Minnesota for Clinton.
Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania can very much flip to Hillary because of the urban vote.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:55:34pm

re: #286 VaughnIAM

Bringing this comment over from the dead thread………
Well it sure looks like our Democrats in the Senate are going to be busy filibustering just about everything that comes to the floor for a vote for the next 4 years.

What filibuster?

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:55:46pm

re: #331 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

got it.

fivethirtyeight.com

sorry, actually just a short update in the heat of live reporting, it seems. Still not something to brighten anyone’s day here, I’m afraid.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:56:18pm

re: #336 Alyosha

My sister in law is terrified we’ll be going to war again. I’m trying to say that it won’t happen, but I’ve been reassuring her for the last year and a half that Trump would never have the White House.
My words seem so empty now.
She’s a teacher. I could only ask her to teach her students critical thinking.
I fucked up.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:56:33pm

re: #345 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Just grabbing onto glimmers of hope here:

Arizona - Trump at +59k votes
Michigan - Trump at +35k votes - 75% precincts reporting (majority in Detroit metro)
Wisconsin- Trump at +86k votes - 85% precincts (Milwaukee/Madison outstanding)
Pennsylvania - Trump at +2k - 95% precincts
New Hampshire - Trump +15 votes - 81% precincts
Minnesota - Clinton +90k - 82% precincts
Maine - Clinton +15k - 78%

Arizona is a given for Trump. Minnesota for Clinton.
Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania can very much flip to Hillary because of the urban vote.

I hope like hell you are right.

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scottslemmons  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:56:37pm

re: #342 Joe Bacon

Not looking good. In 2018 there are 25 Democratic and only 8 Republican Senate seats up for election. The Kochs will once again pour a billion dollars into Republican coffers to buy more Republican ribber stamps.

And every Republican-leaning state will restrict voting as hard as they can.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:56:49pm

The only thing positive that came out of this night is local to me here in IL Cook County. Duckworth and Schneider both won. And Munger as Comptroller is out.

And yeah. I can’t fucking sleep.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:56:50pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
We’re about to see the entire US government tested in a way it’s never been before, with a narcissistic sociopath elected president.
12:32 AM - 9 Nov 2016
44 44 Retweets 70 70 likes

You know that page I put up last evening about America being the Titanic and Trump the iceberg and would we decide to take our government through the icy water like nothing can go wrong?

Yeah that.

Iceberg ahead! Warnings ignored…

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:56:51pm

re: #331 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

So where do we go from here? The GOP doesn’t have big majorities in Congress. The Democrats were able to gain majorities in 2006, so maybe they can get their stuff together in two years. The Dems will inevitably bring up young blood Like Casto and Booker, and maybe Duckworth for 2020.

Well, I can dream anyway.

Like I said, this isn’t the end of the world, despite all the doom and gloom. Trump isn’t Hitler; he’s a conman. There will be elections in 2018 and 2020.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:56:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:57:26pm

Fox News talking about record Evangelical turnout this year.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:57:28pm

re: #346 EPR-radar

What filibuster?

McConell will kill the filibuster. Watch them push a bill to expand the Supreme Court so Trump can pack it with right wing thugs that will screw us for decades to come.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:58:05pm

Well, here we are. Brexit x50.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:58:06pm

re: #345 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

It didn’t happen in Florida. Unfortunately it won’t happen in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania. smfh

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:59:25pm

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News talking about record Evangelical turnout this year.

If my Facebook wall is any indication, Hillary’s hard stance on abortion, even though championed by feminists, really fired up the religious right voters.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:59:25pm

re: #325 kirkspencer

No. Obama showed it wasn’t race.

I got to listen to two males of my acquaintance yesterday tell me they were voting for Trump because they didn’t think a woman should be - could be - president of a nation this large. Both had campaigned for Obama.

It’s the misogyny.

Well, you don’t live where I do, where I have to listen to every Jim Crow slur against President Obama ever since I moved here.

Obama supporting Clinton? “I ain’t voting for anyone supported by that Ni-CLANG”

Voter turnout in Nebraska counties ranged from the high sixties to near ninety percent. There’s your racism.

NE-2 is still not counted and may still go for Hillary Clinton (Omaha and suburbs). It abuts Rep. Steve King’s (R-IA) district. King is a male version of Ann Coulter.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 9:59:37pm

re: #352 ObserverArt

You know that page I put up last evening about America being the Titanic and Trump the iceberg and would we decide to take our government through the icy water like nothing can go wrong?

Yeah that.

Iceberg ahead! Warnings ignored…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:00:03pm

re: #336 Alyosha

My sister in law is terrified we’ll be going to war again. I’m trying to say that it won’t happen, but I’ve been reassuring her for the last year and a half that Trump would never have the White House.
My words seem so empty now.
She’s a teacher. I could only ask her to teach her students critical thinking.
I fucked up.

This has been a colossal failure of basic civic duty. I feel for her and for you.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:00:19pm

re: #325 kirkspencer

No. Obama showed it wasn’t race.

I got to listen to two males of my acquaintance yesterday tell me they were voting for Trump because they didn’t think a woman should be - could be - president of a nation this large. Both had campaigned for Obama.

It’s the misogyny.

I agree. He appeals to their Tony from the Sopranos tough, macho guy admiration.
There were even women saying a female shouldn’t be President and Trump was “their man”. But then again, we all know that there are a lot of women who have very bad taste in men.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:00:23pm

re: #331 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

So where do we go from here? The GOP doesn’t have big majorities in Congress. The Democrats were able to gain majorities in 2006, so maybe they can get their stuff together in two years. The Dems will inevitably bring up young blood Like Casto and Booker, and maybe Duckworth for 2020.

Well, I can dream anyway.

The 2018 Senate map is truly ugly for the Democrats. IIRC, the GOP is only defending 8 seats, while the Democrats have 25 seats to defend.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:00:34pm

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News talking about record Evangelical turnout this year.

Oh fuck those hypocrites. Love to damn us for supporting our gay friends, not scorning our women friends and family who choose, being tolerant of people of our other religions or no religions, and they fucking embrace the guy who doesn’t no the New Testament from his fat ass because they like being told a bill of goods about about the Supreme Court by a guy who probably knows less about hte Supreme Court than Sarah Palin. I’ve had it with Evangelicals. Your religion is the same as your politics. May as well just join the two.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:00:44pm

I’m seeing this start to pop up at a lot of rightwing sites. They literally are chomping at the bit to start purges.

No fascism here, no sir.
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b.d.  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:00:48pm

re: #357 makeitstop

Well, here we are. Brexit x50.

Brexit guys: “Man, y’all f*cked up”

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:00:57pm

NH has flipped to Clinton.

Drumpfskind really needs PA, assuming he wins AK and AZ. He has a tiny lead in PA. If that holds up when all the votes are counted, then he wins.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:01:46pm

re: #364 EPR-radar

The 2018 Senate map is truly ugly for the Democrats. IIRC, the GOP is only defending 8 seats, while the Democrats have 25 seats to defend.

The best we can hope for is by 2020, the American people will see the GOP controls most state legislatures, Congress, and the Presidency and realize that these assholes don’t know a thing about government but I really thought they’d see through Trump too so what the hell do I know?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:01:55pm

big talker made a shitload of big promises

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:02:27pm

G-D IT TO $#%£@^*

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:02:41pm

re: #360 Anymouse

Well, you don’t live where I do, where I have to listen to every Jim Crow slur against President Obama ever since I moved here.

Obama supporting Clinton? “I ain’t voting for anyone supported by that Ni-CLANG”

Voter turnout in Nebraska counties ranged from the high sixties to near ninety percent. There’s your racism.

NE-2 is still not counted and may still go for Hillary Clinton (Omaha and suburbs). It abuts Rep. Steve King’s (R-IA) district. King is a male version of Ann Coulter.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:02:47pm

re: #354 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:02:47pm

re: #366 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I’m seeing this start to pop up at a lot of rightwing sites. They literally are chomping at the bit to start purges.

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If that’s the case, maybe I should learn how to shoot (and I hate guns), okay maybe I’ve had too much to drink tonight but if those right wing assholes want me, they’re going to have to go through me and I’m not going to let a bunch of fascist assholes take me down.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:02:57pm

re: #369 HappyWarrior

They already know the GOP doesn’t know jackshit about government.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:02:57pm

Hubby wants me to wait until the markets calm down to list my houses.

What if it only gets worse? The prices finally came back.

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:03:05pm
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Alyosha  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:03:08pm

re: #362 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Thanks. Hey, stick around. We need all the friends we can get right now :)

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:03:15pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

I do blame the media, I blame the media for “both sider-ism,” for the idea that Trump was a “normal” candidate whose platform wasn’t an appeal to the worst in Americans, that he was “just as bad” as Hillary. Months spent obsessing about every fucking “scandal” under the sun, about her health, about her emails, about Benghazi, about the way she took her coffee. The media did the shittiest job possible because when they weren’t talking down Trump’s negatives, they were boosting hers. They made a man who hasn’t the first fucking clue about politics into a legitimate candidate for the presidency.

I agree 100%. And they, particularly Zucker and Moonves flat out admitted it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:03:34pm

Trump up by 1% with 97% counted in PA.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:03:35pm

big talker made a shitload of big promises

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:03:42pm

re: #375 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

They already know the GOP doesn’t know jackshit about government.

That’s why I said the best we could hope for.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:03:42pm

Well, I’ve been following the returns prior to teaching classes this afternoon, and my usual good mood is a bit glum. I’m hoping teaching my students will cheer me up a little bit, or at least take my mind off how half of America has sailed away from me, perhaps never to return.

BBL

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nickzi  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:04:03pm

re: #375 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

They already know the GOP doesn’t know jackshit about government.

It’s something they like about them.

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b.d.  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:04:07pm

I guess the good news is that we get along with Russia now.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:04:21pm

Response to this tweet from 538

A New Narrative About White Voters

Is this right? If so, what does it mean?

Well, time for my mantra of the evening: We don’t know everything, and it’s not over yet. But this seems like a plausible way to think about this election. What it means seems fairly simple: Some subset of white voters is now conscious of a racial identity, and that consciousness is informing their vote. This doesn’t mean economic anxiety isn’t part of the picture; a sense of threat or scarce resources is often part of forming a group identity and acting on it politically.

Cohn’s idea also answers a question that someone (I think Rachel Maddow) posed on TV about half an hour ago: If the justification for Trump’s candidacy was that people are sick of Washington and want change, why aren’t more incumbents losing?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:04:43pm

re: #306 retired cynic

I’m probably going to cut down the amount I am here.

I will be going into my faith more. Tonight, I did feel my faith again

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:04:55pm

re: #378 Alyosha

Thanks. Hey, stick around. We need all the friends we can get right now :)

Thanks. I’ve been a lurker on LGF for awhile. We need each other Now More Than Ever.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:05:12pm
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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:05:39pm

re: #348 Joe Bacon

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My condolences, Mr. Bacon.

Nixon and Kissenger did the same with my father in Cambodia.

I never thought that wearing a Gold Star Family button was an act of protest, until Mr. Trump went after John McCain and Ghazala Khan.

All those flag waving, “thank you for your service” conservatives? Screw ‘em, they’re hypocrites for elevating the fascist talking yam.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:05:54pm

We still have a Constitution. Unlike Dump, a lot of us have read it. That’s an advantage.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:06:03pm

re: #335 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Easy for him to say. Cuban is rich and white. He’ll be fine.

Those of us who aren’t? We’re fucked.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:06:35pm

re: #386 Scottishdragon

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Response to this tweet from 538

ople are sick of Washington and want change, why aren’t more incumbents losing?

That’s what i don’t get. You claim you’re sick of Washington. Fine, prove it by voting out your GOP Congressman who’s been part of the majority in Congress from 1994-2016 exempting 2010-16. I am sorry but i don’t buy that these people are sick of Washington. I buy that they would rather be told bullshit than actually hear someone who actually is blunt with them. They’re going to be pissed when their jobs don’t come back. Got news for them, don’t fucking blame me, I never supported a candidate who told you that we were going back to the economy of my grandparents.

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nickzi  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:06:43pm

re: #390 Anymouse

My condolences, Mr. Bacon.

Nixon and Kissenger did the same with my father in Cambodia.

I never thought that wearing a Gold Star Family button was an act of protest, until Mr. Trump went after John McCain and Ghazala Khan.

All those flag waving, “thank you for your service” conservatives? Screw ‘em, they’re hypocrites for elevating the fascist talking yam.

And John McCain turned tail and ran, like the groveling, corrupt toady he has always been.

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:06:50pm

re: #376 MsJ

Hubby wants me to wait until the markets calm down to list my houses.

What if it only gets worse? The prices finally came back.

Around here in Tennessee and Virginia where I lived houses are selling fast. Most are selling in less than a week. Now is the time to sell while the getting is good. I doubt this election is going to keep anyone from buying a house if they are looking.

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Alyosha  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:07:01pm

I hope SteelPH is okay.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:08:09pm

re: #392 Lidane

Easy for him to say. Cuban is rich and white. He’ll be fine.

Those of us who aren’t? We’re fucked.

The wrong (actual) billionaire ran for President. G-D it.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:08:09pm

re: #391 Pawn of the Oppressor

We still have a Constitution. Unlike Dump, a lot of us have read it. That’s an advantage.

With a Republican congress and likely Republican Supreme Court rubberstamping Trump’s neo-fascism, that Constitutional check isn’t nearly as powerful as I would like it to be.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:08:12pm

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:08:34pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:08:44pm

re: #387 Ziggy_TARDIS

That’s good. Faith grounds us.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:09:13pm

David Duke won tonight. That’s all you need to know. David Duke’s candidate of choice won tonight. And i’ll note, David Duke never liked Bush, McCain, or Romney. but he loves him some Trump and why not? Trump fucking speaks is language.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:09:39pm

NC Governors Race
Cooper 48.9% 2,278,224
McCrory 48.9% 2,274,666
incumbent

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:09:53pm

re: #401 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s good. Faith grounds us.

It can, unless it is the depraved ‘faith’ of the wingnuts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:10:26pm

re: #403 FormerDirtDart

NC Governors Race
Cooper 48.9% 2,278,224
McCrory 48.9% 2,274,666
incumbent

I don’t get NC voters. They say they disapproved of McCrory’s pathetic pander to bother transpeople yet they want to give him another shot? You know what,, if they’re going to be that stupid.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:10:29pm

re: #373 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

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things will look very different in a few years

i meant this in a positive way

trump is like the dumb old dog who finally caught the car

now he has to eat it

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:10:34pm

re: #391 Pawn of the Oppressor

We still have a Constitution. Unlike Dump, a lot of us have read it. That’s an advantage.

That the majority of the legislative branch and half of the judicial branch couldn’t give two s—ts about the Constitution doesn’t help.

Of course they want to call themselves “Constitutionalists.”

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:10:48pm

re: #387 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m probably going to cut down the amount I am here.

I will be going into my faith more. Tonight, I did feel my faith again

Faith is what drove so many people to vote for Mr. Trump.

Faith is the answer you give when you have no answer.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:10:57pm

re: #390 Anymouse

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:12:04pm

re: #402 HappyWarrior

David Duke won tonight. That’s all you need to know. David Duke’s candidate of choice won tonight. And i’ll note, David Duke never liked Bush, McCain, or Romney. but he loves him some Trump and why not? Trump fucking speaks is language.

Lets not forget the other big winners. Putin and Julien Assange!

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:12:07pm
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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:12:32pm

Man that next South Park ep when Mr. Garrison wins…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:12:45pm

Probably is going to happen quite a bit IRL. (I’m not, FWIW.)

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:13:02pm

Trump’s election night results have clearly sent the markets down, some so far that automatic trade stops have engaged.

How will the GOP spin this to align with their (idiotic) notion that the GOP is good for business?

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:13:11pm

re: #393 HappyWarrior

That’s what i don’t get. You claim you’re sick of Washington. Fine, prove it by voting out your GOP Congressman who’s been part of the majority in Congress from 1994-2016 exempting 2010-16. I am sorry but i don’t buy that these people are sick of Washington. I buy that they would rather be told bullshit than actually hear someone who actually is blunt with them. They’re going to be pissed when their jobs don’t come back. Got news for them, don’t fucking blame me, I never supported a candidate who told you that we were going back to the economy of my grandparents.

My congressman ran unopposed, thanks to the Democratic Party’s fifty state strategy. (Oh wait, we didn’t have one.)

In the village board election,. a write in candidate who is a Teanut won by four votes. I suspect in 2018, I will be off the board (I supported Clinton over Trump, and am the only Democrat elected in entire Nebraska Panhandle).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:13:27pm

Sorry guys. I’ve had a bit to drink and I just feel that so much of what I believed about this country is in question. There’s a lot great about this country. There really is but there’s a lot that I wonder, I really wonder if a large amount of us have learned anything from the past. The KKK has made a comeback in recent years. People condone brutality against unarmed people. I mean we’re a great country, I still believe that but we still have a long ways to go and Trump was a terrible choice for a country that’s still on a long journey. Electing Trump tonight is the equivalent of electing George Wallace in 1968 and our parents and grandparents did elect Richard Nixon but I’ll say this much about Richard Nixon, he was competent and his policies werent’ all bad.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:14:15pm

This might account for the polling problems:

From BJ

As for what happened, it’s pretty simple. After the last election, there were two groups that weren’t electorally up for grabs, according to the Pew analysis:
Hard-Pressed Skeptics, about 12% of the population. They were very financially stressed, distrustful of government, thought that immigrants were a burden and taking their jobs, thought we should tend to things at home instead of abroad, that the country’s best years were behind us, and that hard work was no longer a path to success. They also tended to not vote very much. Trump ticked off every single hot button with this group.

The other group up for grabs were the Bystanders, about 10% of the population, who were completely disengaged from politics. Their most salient aspects were that they were very interested in celebrity gossip and liked the outdoors. Don’t know if Trump actually pulled any of this group to vote, but he is a celebrity.

If the Republicans/Trump actually swung those groups into the Republican camp, they would win. You don’t have to invoke a white supremacist/nazi surge to explain Trump’s win.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:14:20pm

re: #409 Joe Bacon

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I know you don’t know me and stuff, but maybe put that in a drawer some place for a while first. That sounds like something you might really regret later…
And sorry for barging in on what must undoubtedly be a fairly painful matter.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:14:33pm

Hey Donald. Do you still think the vote is rigged? Asshole.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:14:44pm

re: #414 EPR-radar

Trump’s election night results have clearly sent the markets down, some so far that automatic trade stops have engaged.

How will the GOP spin this to align with their (idiotic) notion that the GOP is good for business?

Now that Hillary lost, the White House has stopped artificially propping up the market and is letting it tank to spite Trump. That he was right all along, it wasn’t doing as well as advertised, and now that the government isn’t holding it up the long-awaited “correction” has begun.

It’s not true by any stretch of the imagination, but that’s going to be the mantra starting tomorrow.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:14:46pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

Nixon would be considered a flaming liberal by today’s reactionary GOP standards.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:15:07pm
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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:15:13pm

Do you think England will let me move there if I apologize for the Revolution? Is there a time or generation limit on their allowing loyal citizens to move back? #Brentrance.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:15:34pm

Trump just grabbed America by the pussy.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:15:34pm

re: #403 FormerDirtDart

NC Governors Race
Cooper 48.9% 2,278,224
McCrory 48.9% 2,274,666
incumbent

That will go into a recount.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:15:37pm

re: #419 GlutenFreeJesus

Hey Donald. Do you still think the vote is rigged? Asshole.

No, now he thinks he’s got a “mandate.”

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:15:52pm

re: #220 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

They’ll have total absolute control, owning all three branches and an absolute floor of at least half of the states under full GOP control. Constitutional Amendments aren’t out of the question at all with this.

We’re fucked for a generation.

That’s why this cavalier “oh, it’s only 4 years” talk is so shocking to me. The threats to Medicare, Social Security, welfare, education, women’s health, everyone’s healthcare, global warming, the EPA and on and on are staggering.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:15:54pm

re: #415 Anymouse

My congressman ran unopposed, thanks to the Democratic Party’s fifty state strategy. (Oh wait, we didn’t have one.)

In the village board election,. a write in candidate who is a Teanut won by four votes. I suspect in 2018, I will be off the board (I supported Clinton over Trump, and am the only Democrat elected in entire Nebraska Panhandle).

They really sadly couldn’t take the lessons they learned in 2008 and do it again. To an extent, the electorate pisses me off too because when Obama didn’t deliever sunshine and rainbows in 2010, a lot of them including so many my age stayed home and allowed the Republicans to regain the House which started the mess we’re in now. Obama will go down as a very good president but his promise was unfulfilled because of assholes on both left and right.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:16:34pm

re: #415 Anymouse

Sending you a hug, fella.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:17:17pm

Rep. Adrian Smith (R-NE3) wins reëlection with 100% of the vote, running unopposed. (198,914)

Thanks to the fifty state strategy, our Tea nut representative is returned to Congress with no opposing votes.

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scottslemmons  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:17:38pm

re: #427 BeachDem

That’s why this cavalier “oh, it’s only 4 years” talk is so shocking to me. The threats to Medicare, Social Security, welfare, education, women’s health, everyone’s healthcare, global warming, the EPA and on and on are staggering.

Plus the GOP will be restricting the right to vote more than ever, just to make it easier to put Trump in office for a full eight years.

And it’s not like fascists are well known for giving up power…

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:17:52pm

re: #418 ThomasLite

No.

It’s been a long time coming.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:18:10pm

re: #431 scottslemmons

Plus the GOP will be restricting the right to vote more than ever, just to make it easier to put Trump in office for a full eight years.

And it’s not like fascists are well known for giving up power…

And the Supreme Court thanks to asshole Roberts has shown that they don’t care about that.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:18:23pm

538

College-educated white women voted for Clinton 51 percent to 45 percent, but non-college-educated white women voted for Trump 62 percent to 34 percent. That difference is nothing but stark and something we saw inklings of in October, when I wrote about how many Republican women were willing to overlook Trump’s history of sexual harassment allegations and derogatory comments about women. Partisanship is a hell of a drug.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:18:27pm

re: #241 Varek Raith

I think the number of BoBers was way higher than expected.

And fuck them from the bottom of my heart.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:18:42pm

re: #392 Lidane

Easy for him to say. Cuban is rich and white. He’ll be fine.

Those of us who aren’t? We’re fucked.

If he means it, he better be willing to take Sen Organa as his role model.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:18:46pm

re: #409 Joe Bacon

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Joe. I know you’re angry now. We all are. But please reconsider what you did to the pin. Please keep it.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:18:48pm

re: #423 Shazam

Do you think England will let me move there if I apologize for the Revolution? Is there a time or generation limit on their allowing loyal citizens to move back? #Brentrance.

Well, in a fairly typically shockingly arrogant fashion they still treat citizens of the Irish republic pretty much as if they were still subjects (they get to vote and everything).
(Not a very popular position with my staunchly Catholic family there, to put it extremely mildly.)
But hey, show up at the embassy and try. Maybe get a couple verses of Jerusalem or God save the Queen right by heart or somesuch.
…And please bring a camera. I’d love to see what polite way of saying no they come up with :)

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:18:51pm

Later folks…I’m tired and depressed. Time to crash and think about the future a bit.

I hope I awake to a miracle but miracles are not something I have ever believed in. Maybe I can believe in one sometime.

Sigh.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:19:09pm

Johnson defeats Feingold in Senate race
Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson pulled off one of Wisconsin’s great political upsets.

Down in the polls nearly every step of the way, Johnson surged in the final weeks and defeated Democrat Russ Feingold in their rematch race Tuesday.

Feingold called Johnson to concede a little after 10 p.m.

The 61-year-old Oshkosh manufacturer who has now beaten Feingold twice in six years, returns to the Senate for what he has said will be his second and final term. And his victory was a major boost for Republicans trying to keep party control in the Senate.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:19:58pm

re: #432 Joe Bacon

No.

It’s been a long time coming.

Then again, sorry for barging in, and my sincere condolences.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:20:35pm

So, now it appears we are on the verge of electing to the most powerful position in the free world with the following qualities: (1) A man who has never served in public office, (2) A man who has never served in the military, (3) A man whose knowledge of diplomacy is non-existant and whose political skills were mainly used to clear the way to get his business ventures off the ground, (4) A man who has a horrible track record of stiffing contractors, (5) A man whose leadership has bankrupted at least six businesses and cost investors millions, while he walks away virtually unscathed, (6) A truly horrible misogynist, who pleaded the fifth over 50 times during his first divorce trial, (7) A man who casually and freely insults anyone and everyone who he doesn’t like, and holds grudges for ages.

Now it looks like just over half the country has decided to elect the above person with access to the nuclear launch sequence with the above traits simply because he believes that he can “Make America Great Again.”

How the holy hell did we get here?

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:20:56pm

re: #437 GlutenFreeJesus

I know you mean well, but all that did to me was hurt me over and over again. Tonight was the last straw.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:21:13pm

re: #434 Scottishdragon

538

Don’t any of these women have daughters? What if it had been them or their daughters that Trump made the comments about? I swear, so many white voters in this country have their heads up their ass and would rather support a party that panders to their resentments than a party that actually talks to them like adults about the issues.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:21:32pm

re: #409 Joe Bacon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:21:33pm

Minorities in America be like: What the fuck white people???

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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:21:51pm

re: #438 ThomasLite

But I already know what a lorry is, and I’ve been practising my top bants!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:22:12pm

re: #435 BeachDem

And fuck them from the bottom of my heart.

Oh man they’er going to be so annoying as hell. Can’t wait to hear Bernie was going to save us from Trump and because you can’t prove a negative, they’ll harp on it non-stop for the next four years.

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Alyosha  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:22:15pm

Bringing down some Jules for ye:

Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children.

Don’t forget Obama’s entreaty to be our brother’s keeper. He meant it in feast years and in the wilderness.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:22:48pm

re: #440 Amory Blaine

Johnson defeats Feingold in Senate race
Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson pulled off one of Wisconsin’s great political upsets.

That one really bums me out. I really really thought you guys were going to bring Russ back.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:23:03pm

re: #446 Eclectic Cyborg

Minorities in America be like: What the fuck white people???

Hell, as an American white guy overseas, I’m all like WTF white people?

Trump is a two-bit shyster conman. That people are apparently willing to elect him as POTUS tells me that something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:23:09pm

re: #440 Amory Blaine

Johnson defeats Feingold in Senate race
Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson pulled off one of Wisconsin’s great political upsets.

So the Bros didn’t just murder progress in the White House, they murdered it in Congress too. Russ Feingold was one of the biggest critics of the “status quo,” one of the leading voices for reform to the system…and they left his ass dangling in the wind because they could not find it in themselves to vote or vote Democrat. All those assholes who have listed “overturning Citizens United” as one of their rallying cries failed to reelect the guy whose law that case was meant to gut.

Congrats, asshole, you showed you’re petty fucks. How does that make you feel? Good? You’re not going to feel so good when Congress passes laws that make CU pale by comparison. They’re not going to make the same mistakes twice, they’re going to take steps to cement their power base for another generation.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:23:19pm

re: #443 Joe Bacon

Understood my friend.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:23:57pm

re: #443 Joe Bacon

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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:24:18pm

Insult to injury: I bet a coworker five bucks she was going to win. I mean, four years from now I won’t even remember it, but man it stings.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:24:19pm

re: #434 Scottishdragon

Christ. These voters need to wake up when the GOP starts enacting The Handmaid’s Tale.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:24:29pm

re: #427 BeachDem

That’s why this cavalier “oh, it’s only 4 years” talk is so shocking to me. The threats to Medicare, Social Security, welfare, education, women’s health, everyone’s healthcare, global warming, the EPA and on and on are staggering.

I think y’all might be overestimating how ideologically coherent the GOP will be when it actually has to govern instead of obstruct. Senators and Congressman have to answer to constituents, which means Paul Ryan doesn’t get everyone of his ideological fantasies automatically enacted into law.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:24:50pm

Well, despite living in a deep-blue state, I’m pretty much screwed. I’m on SS and my girlfriend is on SSDI. Our rent is subsidized by a program that will be going away now I’m sure. She’s totally dependent on Medicare for her meds (insulin in particular). We’re ruined. I can’t believe the polls were so far off. I thought they were off, but the other way. I’m in shock.

And fuck the Electoral College, BTW.

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b.d.  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:24:53pm

I always wondered what they meant about how all of the people laughed at Hitler and then all of a sudden he somehow came to power.

Drastic analogy but now I have a sense of what they meant.

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:25:21pm

In 2012 turnout was about 127m voters. In 2008, turnout was 130m. This year it looks like it might not reach 120m (CNN’s vote tracker currently has it at about 110m).

I said months ago that if it turned out to be a low turnout election that all bets were off. Well, it looks like it was a low turnout election. Can’t say I’m particularly shocked given both nominees had historically bad favorability numbers.

I don’t know what this says about the country, the parties, or the nominees. But I can’t imagine this result say anything good about any of them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:25:28pm

I’m also sad because I really wanted my grandmother to be able to see a woman become president too. She turns 90 next year and she along with my other grandmother (now deceased) played a big role in shaping my ideology.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:25:37pm

re: #456 EPR-radar

Christ. These voters need to wake up when the GOP starts enacting The Handmaid’s Tale.

Yep………for me, The Handmaid’s Tale is one of the great works of dystopian fiction.

For a whole lotta Americans, it’s apparently a how-to guide.

*smdh*

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:25:48pm

re: #457 Big Beautiful Door

I think y’all might be overestimating how ideologically coherent the GOP will be when it actually has to govern instead of obstruct. Senators and Congressman have to answer to constituents, which means Paul Ryan doesn’t get everyone of his ideological fantasies automatically enacted into law.

Except that the constituents that Republicans will answer to are The Koch Brothers, Adelson, Foster Fries, Peter Thiel…

And when it comes to Peter Thiel, I wonder what he will do when the Jesusbots come for him…

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:26:59pm

re: #447 Shazam

But I already know what a lorry is, and I’ve been practicing my top bants!

…You know, normally I’d point out driving on the left is a fething pain but hey, in this context it might be therapeutic ;)

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:27:02pm

re: #457 Big Beautiful Door

I think y’all might be overestimating how ideologically coherent the GOP will be when it actually has to govern instead of obstruct. Senators and Congressman have to answer to constituents, which means Paul Ryan doesn’t get everyone of his ideological fantasies automatically enacted into law.

No, they won’t make it all happen, but they will do enough damage along the way that the difference will be semantics. They’re going to dismantle the ACA without the first clue how they will replace it, probably watch the replacement bill die in committee due to squabbling by the “Freedom Caucus” over how they can’t pass tax credits because that’s spending they won’t support. Ryan’s gonna get Medicare reduced to a voucher program, then find himself dealing with “debt hawks” who will insist that the vouchers can’t cover diddly or squat because there’s no money in the budget for it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:27:03pm

This means the Southern Strategy still works. It also has a new bend to it, the Southern Strategy and also vote for us even though we were the staunchest supporters of the trade deals you hate.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:27:26pm

re: #460 KGxvi

There are at least 8 million more votes here in California to be counted.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:27:46pm

re: #459 b.d.

I always wondered what they meant about how all of the people laughed at Hitler and then all of a sudden he somehow came to power.

Drastic analogy but now I have a sense of what they meant.

After the Beer Hall Putsch - a comic opera affair is there ever was one, a ham-fisted attempt to recreate the March on Rome - everyone figured Hitler and his little mustache were finished….he was the butt of jokes.

A lot of people were still chuckling up their sleeve when was appointed as Reichkanzler.

No one was laughing a few months later.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:28:07pm

re: #457 Big Beautiful Door

I think y’all might be overestimating how ideologically coherent the GOP will be when it actually has to govern instead of obstruct. Senators and Congressman have to answer to constituents, which means Paul Ryan doesn’t get everyone of his ideological fantasies automatically enacted into law.

They did answer to their constituents. They ran on that platform and were reëlected (my representative with 100% of the vote).

They want those things (or at least what they believe those things will give).

The best example of socialised medicine working in the USA, the Veterans Administration, is now a goner.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:28:12pm

Roy Blount wins in MO.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:28:18pm

Pounding rain in Avon and Bay Village right about now.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:28:20pm

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:28:37pm

Before I turned CNN off, they seemed downright amused about what happened tonight. Have these guys heard what Trump wants to the freedom of the press? I mean damn.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:28:48pm

re: #463 Joe Bacon

Except that the constituents that Republicans will answer to are The Koch Brothers, Adelson, Foster Fries, Peter Thiel…

And when it comes to Peter Thiel, I wonder what he will do when the Jesusbots come for him…

Thiel’s money will protect him from the Jesusbots.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:29:16pm

Good night all; tomorrow is another day.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:29:32pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

There’s a Catholicism angle to that I think.

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:29:50pm

re: #467 freetoken

There are at least 8 million more votes here in California to be counted.

that makes it a bit more depressing.

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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:29:52pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

It’s like the universe is contorting to make Trump right about everything. Is he God?

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:30:05pm

re: #473 HappyWarrior

Before I turned CNN off, they seemed downright amused about what happened tonight. Have these guys heard what Trump wants to the freedom of the press? I mean damn.

The media didn’t think much of Hitler at the time either, he was just this little pissant Austrian that nobody thought would amount to much.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:30:05pm

re: #470 Eclectic Cyborg

Roy Blount wins in MO.

Damn, really thought Kander could pull that out. That again shows the hypocrisy of the anti-Washington voters. Blunt’s been there since Kander was a kid. I mean if you’re honest to God, anti-Washington stop letting the Republicans keep the Congress.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:30:15pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

Religious voters. Fuck them over and deport them all you like, as long as Roe goes down.
Or that’s their pastors’ reasoning, anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:30:25pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

How the hell did that happen?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:30:45pm

re: #459 b.d.

I always wondered what they meant about how all of the people laughed at Hitler and then all of a sudden he somehow came to power.

Drastic analogy but now I have a sense of what they meant.

His kids scare me far far more. They are younger and can push out true hate (as Charles Johnson has documented voluminously) in a sleeker, shiner package.

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:30:50pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

I just saw that on MSNBC. That’s something, huh?

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:30:58pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

I couldn’t believe how many Hispanic wingnuts there were when I lived in Texas.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:31:00pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

That’s a genuine shocker.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:31:07pm

re: #468 Dr Lizardo

After the Beer Hall Putsch - a comic opera affair is there ever was one, a ham-fisted attempt to recreate the March on Rome - everyone figured Hitler and his little mustache were finished….he was the butt of jokes.

A lot of people were still chuckling up their sleeve when was appointed as Reichkanzler.

No one was laughing a few months later.

Hitler et al. got a slap on the wrist for their Beer Hall Putsch from a sympathetic right-wing court. It’s always useful to have fellow travelers in high places.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:31:09pm

re: #476 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s a Catholicism angle to that I think.

Honestly, I don’t know. I mean yes Catholics are against abortion and gay marriage but Latino Catholics especially are staunchly pro-labor and pro-immigration.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:31:23pm

re: #483 Myron Falwell (no relation)

His kids scare me far far more. They are younger and can push out true hate (as Charles Johnson has documented voluminously) in a sleeker, shiner package.

And don’t think for a moment they won’t want to be President too someday. Just like their daddy.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:31:31pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

Abortion.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:31:49pm

re: #486 Dr Lizardo

That’s a genuine shocker.

Abortion.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:31:54pm

re: #487 EPR-radar

Hitler et al. got a slap on the wrist for their Beer Hall Putsch from a sympathetic right-wing court. It’s always useful to have fellow travelers in high places.

Yeah, he only served a few months of his prison sentence and it was pretty cushy by the standards of the era.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:31:57pm

I guess we’ll have to send the Taco Trucks back…

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:32:43pm

Chris Matthews bending over backwards to avoid calling white Trump voters racist

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:32:45pm

re: #472 Scottishdragon

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Hillary underperformed with Latinos by 8 points and Trump did better than Romney??!

If this is true, I just don’t know what to think. If people can’t even be bothered to vote against a fascist out of self-preservation, there really is no hope.

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b.d.  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:32:49pm

Render therefore to Caesars the things that are Caesar’s because the Trump Taj Mahal is in bankruptcy…

or something….

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:33:10pm

Michigan is at almost 700,000 fewer votes than 2012

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:33:32pm

re: #495 EPR-radar

I’ve come across many a religious Mexican immigrant here in San Diego. Sure, they are all for most Democratic ideas, but the abortion thing is a big deal.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:33:34pm

re: #493 Eclectic Cyborg

I guess we’ll have to send the Taco Trucks back…

Well, one humorous thing in what appears to be a disaster tonight.

Damn, I wanted my taco trucks.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:34:07pm

re: #496 b.d.

Render therefore to Caesars the things that are Caesar’s because the Trump Taj Mahal is in bankruptcy…

or something….

If there’s anything that may do a Trump administration in, it will be the rampant corruption that will spring up.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:34:12pm

re: #497 FormerDirtDart

What is holding up the Michigan voting? Same thing with PA.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:34:33pm

Shit, if Trump really wins this, the USA is gonna be a pariah for the next four years.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:34:34pm

re: #497 FormerDirtDart

Sound like total voter turnout is lower than 2012 levels as well.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:35:28pm

re: #498 freetoken

I’ve come across many a religious Mexican immigrant here in San Diego. Sure, they are all for most Democratic ideas, but the abortion thing is a big deal.

It’s not hard now, in retrospect, to wonder if Wallace’s question about “partial-birth abortion” was intended to inflame such sentiment.

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b.d.  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:35:34pm

re: #500 Targetpractice

If there’s anything that may do a Trump administration in, it will be the rampant corruption that will spring up.

I can’t even imagine….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:35:44pm

185 000 votes for Johnson and Stein in PA. Clinton trailing by around 50 000 at the moment.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:36:01pm

NE-2 Representative Brad Ashford (D) lost his seat to Don Bacon (R).

The Libertarian candidate (Steven Laird) took enough votes to unseat Ashford.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:36:13pm

I am so not looking forward to that man being my President these next four years. I mean goddamn. I admit it. I didn’t like Bush but at least he spoke beautifully after 9/11 about all Americans regardless of our backgrounds being united in horror at those events, Trump? If another 9/11 happened, he’d encourage his fascist goonsquad to go after all his undesierables.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:36:15pm

re: #502 Dr Lizardo

Like I said earlier upthread-if Trump wins, all ambassadors should be recalled by their countries en-masse to send a signal to Hair Furor.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:36:43pm

re: #498 freetoken

I’ve come across many a religious Mexican immigrant here in San Diego. Sure, they are all for most Democratic ideas, but the abortion thing is a big deal.

So be it. Roe v. Wade is almost certainly doomed. Once that happens, 2/3 of the states will immediately enact total abortion bans, and the usual horror stories will follow in due course.

Does everything have to be learned the hardest possible way?

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:36:52pm

One other thing:

This is the utter end of the Clinton wing of the Democratic party and the comfort with Goldman Sachs and Wall Street.

Center left moderates are not going to get it done in this environment.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:37:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:37:09pm

re: #506 Eclectic Cyborg

185 000 votes for Johnson and Stein in PA. Clinton trailing by around 50 000 at the moment.

Third party purist assholes strike again it seems. Man, I need to go to bed. I have to work tomorrow but I have such a nasty taste in my mouth that’s not going away for another four years.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:37:25pm

re: #500 Targetpractice

If there’s anything that may do a Trump administration in, it will be the rampant corruption that will spring up.

So basically the Warren Harding administration on steroids and HGH supplements.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:38:02pm

re: #505 b.d.

I can’t even imagine….

He’s said he’ll put his business interests in a “blind trust”…that involves just putting his kids in charge. Without his tax returns, we haven’t the first fucking clue just how many different banks and interests he owes a shitload of money to. And the idea that he’s not going to use his office to pass policies and regulations that will benefit his portfolio is laughable.

Plus, consider the people he’s gonna be surrounding himself with, people who each no doubt have some financial interest in seeing him in office. Or legal interest, as I’m sure Big Chicken would love President Trump to write him a pardon for Bridgegate.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:38:17pm

re: #512 goddamnedfrank

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And knowing them Frank, they’re probably doing their smug “told ya so” tonight rather than realizing they had the most liberal platform in the Democratic Party’s history and they threw it all away because they couldn’t accept that Clinton was the candidate.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:38:19pm

it’s ded jim

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:38:47pm

Odd as it may be, one place where Clinton is outperforming Obama’s 2012 results, at least in %, is… in Utah.

Yeah Mormons, I guess.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:38:59pm

re: #500 Targetpractice

If there’s anything that may do a Trump administration in, it will be the rampant corruption that will spring up.

And the suppression of the newspapers that report on it…

Trump is going to retaliate against the Washington Post. Kurt Eichenwald is on the list as well, I imagine.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:39:11pm

re: #335 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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I’m an American citizen First. Last. Always.

WTF does that even mean? Again, the cavalier attitude of white, male (billionaire) Americans.

Cuban was good during the election, but I continue to be shocked at the dismissiveness of what a Trump presidency will really mean to a whole lot of people.

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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:39:59pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:40:05pm

Pennsylvania has just been called for Trump by the Washington Post.

It’s officially over now since he’s going to win both Alaska and Arizona.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:40:14pm

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:40:28pm

re: #519 Scottishdragon

And the suppression of the newspapers that report on it…

Trump is going to retaliate against the Washington Post. Kurt Eichenwald is on the list as well, I imagine.

The press pool is gonna shrink from all the media outlets whose press credentials are about to be revoked. But not to worry, we can be sure that guys like Chucky and Jones will be granted front-row seats, if not administration positions.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:40:54pm

CNN has Clinton down 69K in PA, I don’t see how that gap closes much

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:40:55pm

55 000 000 Americans voted for Donald Trump over Hilary Clinton.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:41:05pm

Bummer… Car Thief has pulled ahead…

But the portion of the vote counted still is small.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:41:13pm

re: #520 BeachDem

WTF does that even mean? Again, the cavalier attitude of white, male (billionaire) Americans.

Cuban was good during the election, but I continue to be shocked at the dismissiveness of what a Trump presidency will really mean to a whole lot of people.

Indeed, it’s easy for him to say that. Yes, I remain an American and I don’t plan to leave but you know what? I’m also a white male. My right to choose isn’t being threatened. My citizenship isn’t questioned by Trump’s asshole supporters by people looking at me. And as a straight male, my right to marry isn’t going to be threatened by right wing judicial activist dicks. And hell they probably assume looking at me, I’m one of them but I will never be one of those right wign assholes that elected this monster.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:41:28pm

Did The Donald™ really win this election?

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:41:36pm

re: #476 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s a Catholicism angle to that I think.

You know, I’m Catholic myself. In a fairly… loose, progressive way, I suppose (not exactly all that active anymore either, TBH). But honestly, I was raised in a very conservative Catholic family, and I still have a bunch of friends who are a fair bit more conservative about it than I am, and I still regularly talk to several priests - great guys, absolutely: sincerely caring, absolutely willing to go the distance for their parishoners, no qualms there.
But honestly, that rhetoric is forced so far down each and every one’s throat come sunday (or saturday evening as the case may be), right up to my grandmother’s funeral sermon (to be fair, she was really active in that stuff and would have greatly appreciated it) and frankly it’s easy for me to see how even here in this Godless land of Liberal Depravity ( ;) ) someone can get caught up in that real badly.

And that’s without the extensive corrupting influence (IMO, sorry if I’m offending any devout Calvinists here ;) ) the Evangelical community in the US seems to have had on the Catholic Church there. I mean, when I see some of the stuff they publish it’s mostly the rituals that still look mostly Catholic, but when even salvation through works is abandoned in favour of preaching stuff that smells suspiciously much like predestination as far as I’m concerned that’s not really the Catholicism as preached from Rome any more (and that asshole Cardinal can go read up on what few things we still bloody well do consider to be straight-up heresy in that particular case).

Soooo, sorry for another rant there but yeah, I’m fairly sure that Catholicism angle had more than a bit to do with it. Every time someone mentioned favouring Hillary b/c of support of pro-choice positions within earshot of an undecided devoutly Catholic Latino, another likely Trump voter was likely created.
And, ashamed as I am to say this, her being a woman certainly helped that sentiment along more than a bit.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:41:39pm

The Nebraska Secretary of State has called NE-2 for Donald Trump by less than six thousand votes.

Dr. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson took over ten thousand votes there.

electionresults.sos.ne.gov

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:41:42pm

I can’t sleep. Ever. Here’s Al Giordano 45 minutes ago:

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:41:45pm

re: #520 BeachDem

WTF does that even mean? Again, the cavalier attitude of white, male (billionaire) Americans.

Cuban was good during the election, but I continue to be shocked at the dismissiveness of what a Trump presidency will really mean to a whole lot of people.

No pundits will die as a result of Trump’s presidency (assuming Trump doesn’t start World War III). Most of their ‘analysis’ begins and ends with this point.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:41:52pm

re: #525 FormerDirtDart

CNN has Clinton down 69K in PA, I don’t see how that gap closes much

make that 76K
It’s over folks

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:42:24pm

re: #527 freetoken

Bummer… Car Thief has pulled ahead…

But the portion of the vote counted still is small.

What difference does it really mean if Trump’s going to be in the WH? Sorry, sorry I know that was really emo but Issa with Trump in the WH is probably just another Republican. That said, I’m glad he may be gone.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:42:31pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:43:36pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:43:47pm

re: #524 Targetpractice

The press pool is gonna shrink from all the media outlets whose press credentials are about to be revoked. But not to worry, we can be sure that guys like Chucky and Jones will be granted front-row seats, if not administration positions.

Great, because we need a floor-shitter and a WWE reject who loves to take his shirt off while acting like a deranged psychopath.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:43:48pm

re: #536 Kragar

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Go back to the fucking UK then you fucking limey piece of shit if that’s how you feel and don’t ever cry crocodile tears when someone calls you deplorable because you fucking are.

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:44:09pm

AP called Pa too

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:44:29pm

re: #526 Eclectic Cyborg

55 000 000 Americans voted for Donald Trump over Hilary Clinton.

Almost 61 million voted for Romney.

The turnout this year may have fooled everyone.

I think the early voting is skewing things. There is a fraction of Americans that are excited to vote and go for it early. That apparently has masked a general apathy that exists in the rest of the population.

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Weaselone  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:45:05pm

re: #541 freetoken

Almost 61 million voted for Romney.

The turnout this year may have fooled everyone.

I think the early voting is skewing things. There is a fraction of Americans that are excited to vote and go for it early. That apparently has masked a general apathy that exists in the rest of the population.

Wonder if they’ll be apathetic in 4 years.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:45:28pm

This is stunning.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:45:53pm

I guess my sister’s marriage is about to be dissolved.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:46:16pm

re: #543 Amory Blaine

This is stunning.

No shit. Americans have elected a proto-fascist as POTUS.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:47:37pm

re: #542 Weaselone

Wonder if they’ll be apathetic in 4 years.

It’s hard to predict.

Pollsters showed over and over how historically unpopular the two candidates were.

That is/was the story.

We should have listened.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:47:54pm

re: #545 Dr Lizardo

No shit. Americans have elected a proto-fascist as POTUS.

May God help us all…

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:48:02pm

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:48:06pm

re: #536 Kragar

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I want to send a message to him, and all of his little Nazi piece of shit friends, that if they think they get to do what they want, they’re in for a fucking surprise. Nobody is putting my friends on a train.

I’m here, I’m not right-wing, I’m armed, and I’m not going to take any neo-Sturmabteilung shit from anybody.

If we’re going to get all anti-immigrant, maybe we can start with his sorry little ass.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:48:31pm

Trump 264
Clintion 215

MI 10% outstanding
NH 12% outstanding

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:49:00pm

re: #550 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump 264
Clintion 215

MI 10% outstanding
NH 12% outstanding

This is actually happening.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:49:04pm

re: #550 Eric The Fruit Bat

But AK and AZ are very likely Drumpfskind’s.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:49:17pm

How the hell do you go from Obama to Trump, America?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:49:33pm

re: #552 freetoken

But AK and AZ are very likely Drumpfskind’s.

Certainly.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:50:17pm

Remember, the year 2000 was only 16 years ago.

We had election trauma then, too.

California will put Clinton over the top in the popular vote, if note in electoral vote.

So this will be yet another year in which we get to demonstrate that the popular vote isn’t enough.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:50:32pm

re: #553 HappyWarrior

How the hell do you go from Obama to Trump, America?

Eight years of an African-American President has driven a substantial number of white Americans violently insane?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:50:57pm

Uhhh… sorry to break it to you, Evan… but conservatism has finally unmasked itself. This is what they believe. This is who they are.

They are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:08pm

I had to walk out of an election watch party twice earlier because I was about to cry.

I am at home now and I don’t think I am going to be able to maintain control at this point.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:18pm

re: #556 Dr Lizardo

Eight years of an African-American President has driven a substantial number of white Americans violently insane?

Sad but true statement of the night right there.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:32pm

The first black president, the first president in ages to win twice by better than 50% of the popular vote, a man who enjoyed better popularity than Reagan, went to the American people. He implored them not to let the progress of the last eight years be turned back, to fight to support that progress and to build upon it. To dream of a better future.

Tonight, millions of Bros said “Fuck that, I’m still salty that Bernie wasn’t nominated!”

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:32pm

re: #551 HappyWarrior

This is actually happening.

Not only that it looks like the Electoral College screwed America over again, there’s so many uncounted Clinton votes in blue state urban centers like Los Angeles that she’s quite likely to end up winning the popular vote.

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ThomasLite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:33pm

re: #531 Anymouse

The Nebraska Secretary of State has called NE-2 for Donald Trump by less than six thousand votes.

Dr. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson took over ten thousand votes there.

electionresults.sos.ne.gov

Again, most of those are L votes. The great majority of those are from folks who would normally vote R.

Yeah, they didn’t swing far enough left. But this is equally as good as staying home (same effect) and I’d be fairly reluctant to lay this at the feet of those who did. I mean, with turnouts as they have been that puts 30-40% of the country to blame just as much.

The real thing IMO is the BoB’ers who either voted Green - or stayed home. and depending on how big that last group is, that unicorn crowd might have actually cost a crucial state or two? That’s the real problem. Passionate enough for months on end, but can’t be arsed to vote against the fucking proto-fascist.

I take issue with them far more than with the guys who couldn’t bring themselves to vote D but at least refused to tick the box for Evil Incarnate.
Hell, those might be some of the folks that can actually be won over over the next decade…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:35pm

re: #555 freetoken

Remember, the year 2000 was only 16 years ago.

We had election trauma then, too.

California will put Clinton over the top in the popular vote, if note in electoral vote.

So this will be yet another year in which we get to demonstrate that the popular vote isn’t enough.

Another split between popular vote/Electoral College vote - and only 16 years apart.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:43pm

re: #548 Joe Bacon

I suspect it will not be too long before “investigations” into Hillary Clinton begin.

Not too long before things like Lawrence v Texas and Griswold v Connecticut are reversed.

Good-bye Roe v Wade.

My wife is watching a feed on NBC where they are now claiming “maybe they should have not given this guy such a pass.” Ya think?

Several people tweeting into NBC saying “see, should have been Bernie Sanders.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:48pm

re: #556 Dr Lizardo

Eight years of an African-American President has driven a substantial number of white Americans violently insane?

I guess I really naively thought we had moved passed that.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:51:58pm

re: #550 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump 264
Clintion 215

MI 10% outstanding
NH 12% outstanding

Barring a miracle the likes we’ve never seen in American politics, stick a fork in Hillary, because she’s done.

Now, the best we can hope for is to limit the damage Trump and the now-completely GOP-held Congress can do and prep like hell for 2018 and 2020.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:52:26pm

re: #553 HappyWarrior

How the hell do you go from Obama to Trump, America?

They got the black guy out of the White House, and the woman he endorsed.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:52:35pm

re: #556 Dr Lizardo

Eight years of an African-American President has driven a substantial number of white Americans violently insane?

Rush Limbaugh and his way of thinking was around Republicans and white people way before Obama came along.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:53:08pm

re: #566 TedStriker

Barring a miracle the likes we’ve never seen in American politics, stick a fork in Hillary, because she’s done.

Now, the best we can hope for is to limit the damage Trump and the now-completely GOP-held Congress can do and prep like hell for 2018 and 2020.

Good luck. Filibuster gone on day one in the Senate, House in the majority of the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:53:09pm

re: #557 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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Uhhh… sorry to break it to you, Evan… but conservatism has finally unmasked itself. This is what they believe. This is who they are.

They are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook.

You’re mistaken Evan, conservatives are why Trump won. You’re probably a decent guy but conservatism in this country is a bigoted sham and Trump just showed it tonight. Good luck with whatever you do but people on the right aren’t going to listen to you because they’re thrilled to have the WH back.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:53:11pm

re: #568 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Rush Limbaugh and his way of thinking was around Republicans and white people way before Obama came along.

True that.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:53:13pm

re: #557 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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Uhhh… sorry to break it to you, Evan… but conservatism has finally unmasked itself. This is what they believe. This is who they are.

They are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook.

Tomorrow begins the Great Walk-back, when all those Republicans who said they couldn’t support Trump anymore, couldn’t be associated with him, now try to get onboard with the incoming Trump administration. In six months, instead of saying they never supported him, every one of them will insist that they never wavered in their support of him and they always felt he was destined to “Take America Back” and “Make It Great Again.”

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Chrysicat  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:53:14pm

re: #158 Big Beautiful Door

Yes! And in 75 years we may have the 3/4 of each house and 2/3 of the Statehouses that we’ll need to pass the Civil Rights amendment, and reinstate Brown v Board as the law of the land rather than Plessy!

Of course, that’s going to be too late for the entire uppity-n-word and LGBT populations who grew up as equals and then were made third-class citizens overnight…

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:53:14pm

I can’t help feel for all those LBGT members of the armed forces.
You know that current policies will be repealed
All those serving openly are screwed

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:53:15pm

Roy Cooper declared victory for governor in NC.

That will be the one and only bright spot I take from this.

Loosing tens of millions of dollars from basketball and other sports playoffs fleeing the state is what killed McCrory.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:53:44pm

I got Bernie Bros crowing that Bernie polled higher than Hillary beating Trump.

I pointed out Hillary polled higher and appears to lose, so how does Bernie’s number hold?

Derp is the response.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:54:01pm

re: #556 Dr Lizardo

Eight years of an African-American President has driven a substantial number of white Americans violently insane?

In part, but there are also two big things that I am expecting the post mortem to show:

1) lots of older people not ready for a female president;
2) young people not bothering to show up on election day.

I suspect also that

3) abortion affected the Latino share for Clinton.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:54:08pm

This hit hard then. It hits harder now.

Verdict

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:55:07pm

re: #572 Targetpractice

Tomorrow begins the Great Walk-back, when all those Republicans who said they couldn’t support Trump anymore, couldn’t be associated with him, now try to get onboard with the incoming Trump administration. In six months, instead of saying they never supported him, every one of them will insist that they never wavered in their support of him and they always felt he was destined to “Take America Back” and “Make It Great Again.”

Let’s see what my senator Ben Sasse does. He rejected Mr. Trump first (in February).

Betcha he’s right back in the saddle.

NBC saying “Mr. Trump bypassed the media (it’s not our fault)”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:55:26pm

re: #560 Targetpractice

The first black president, the first president in ages to win twice by better than 50% of the popular vote, a man who enjoyed better popularity than Reagan, went to the American people. He implored them not to let the progress of the last eight years be turned back, to fight to support that progress and to build upon it. To dream of a better future.

Tonight, millions of Bros said “Fuck that, I’m still salty that Bernie wasn’t nominated!”

Yep, I’ve seen that sentiment on my FB feed and it just pisses me off. I am as mad at the BBs (not all Bernie supporters) who because they didn’t get their Bernie and they did everything they could by constantly MBFing or talking about voting or actually voting for Stein or Johnson to undermine Clinton and Obama. You all want progress? Learn that it doesn’t come over fucking night.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:55:46pm

No, NBC, you don’t get to weasel your way out of this.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:56:07pm

My youngest wants to join the military some day.

I won’t let her under Trump

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:56:16pm

And 4 years from now they won’t have laid a single brick down on that wall.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:56:16pm

Clinton should end he concession speech with: “….and in four years, when everything has gone to shit and Trump has abandoned you, you will come begging to me to fix it. And I’ll say, ‘fuck you assholes, you had your chance’”

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:56:26pm

re: #518 freetoken

Odd as it may be, one place where Clinton is outperforming Obama’s 2012 results, at least in %, is… in Utah.

Yeah Mormons, I guess.

Unlike the “Evangelical” right wing the Mormons are more likely to take their conservative religious teachings seriously. Hence a liquor selling, casino owning pervert is unacceptable to them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:56:45pm

re: #575 Scottishdragon

Roy Cooper declared victory for governor in NC.

That will be the one and only bright spot I take from this.

Loosing tens of millions of dollars from basketball and other sports playoffs fleeing the state is what killed McCrory.

I’m cynical enough to think if your state didn’t have so much in college hoops that McCrory would have been okay. I mean I love basketball, I’ve even coached it but that’s not why people should have voted him out, they should have voted him out because he chose to scapegoat transpeople for votes.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:56:54pm

If we had chosen HRC, that would have been difficult path to a distant, humane future.
We will still get there, not as soon, and not until all of us have passed through the fire.
This is a thousand year war.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:56:56pm

re: #579 Anymouse

Let’s see what my senator Ben Sasse does. He rejected Mr. Trump first (in February).

Betcha he’s right back in the saddle.

NBC saying “Mr. Trump bypassed the media (it’s not our fault)”

Yeah, just like how the media was totally in the dark about the intelligence failures of Iraq, they were never out there shaking them pom-pons for war because they always knew something was fishy.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:57:03pm

re: #585 William Lewis

Drumpfskind still won there. McMullin took about a third of the Romney votes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:57:12pm

re: #576 BigPapa

I got Bernie Bros crowing that Bernie polled higher than Hillary beating Trump.

I pointed out Hillary polled higher and appears to lose, so how does Bernie’s number hold?

Derp is the response.

Bernie never had to deal with Republican attacks. It’s very easy for them to goddamn say that.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:57:22pm

If there is any bright side, it could well ends up that Clinton wins the popular vote but Trump wins the EC vote. That’ll hopefully dampen any claims the GOP may have about a mandate for Trump.

But then again, this is the GOP we’re talking about, so……..probably not.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:57:29pm

I’m going to bed. I can’t wait to get up and watch my investments be destroyed tomorrow

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:57:40pm

re: #556 Dr Lizardo

Eight years of an African-American President has driven a substantial number of white Americans violently insane?

They were driven insane well before President Obama was inaugurated. I know because I was one of those nuts at the time. And I regret it deeply.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:57:51pm

re: #582 Kragar

My youngest wants to join the military some day.

I won’t let her under Trump

I don’t blame you.

Thoughts on when Trump decides to use tactical nukes in Syria?

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:57:52pm

re: #556 Dr Lizardo

Eight years of an African-American President has driven a substantial number of white Americans violently insane?

You’ve been here a long time, you’ve seen the evidence…that is exactly what happened, in conjunction with the GOP (particularly the RR) crawling over broken glass and flaming coals to pull the lever for their candidates and ratfuckery by the BoBs and third-party Purity Uber Alles folks.

Plus, the GOP’s 30-year campaign against the Clintons have bore the ultimate fruit among the more ignorant of the American polity, regardless of the actual realities about Bill and Hillary.

The long game, indeed…and Trump and the GOP just fucking schooled us in it.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:57:57pm

re: #581 Varek Raith

No, NBC, you don’t get to weasel your way out of this.

Of course they do. NBC doesn’t care.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:58:03pm

President Donald Trump.

Yeah, that’s going to take some time to digest.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:58:11pm

First time in the history of the Cold War and Post Cold War Era, an asset for Russian Intellegence (FSB) has taken control of the U.S. Presidency. Russia won.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:58:16pm

re: #591 Dr Lizardo

Yeah right. Anyone denying a broad mandate for Trump will be labeled a traitor.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:58:19pm

re: #575 Scottishdragon

Roy Cooper declared victory for governor in NC.

But isn’t this another indictment of the Clinton campaign?

If North Carolinians were willing to vote Dem for governor, but not for Clinton, what does that tell us?

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:58:27pm

re: #591 Dr Lizardo

If there is any bright side, it could well ends up that Clinton wins the popular vote but Trump wins the EC vote. That’ll hopefully dampen any claims the GOP may have about a mandate for Trump.

But then again, this is the GOP we’re talking about, so……..probably not.

Bush lost the popular vote in 2000 and was barely over 50% in 2004. Never stopped him from insisting he had a “mandate” and thus could effectively rule by fiat.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:58:50pm

one last tweet share

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:58:52pm

re: #591 Dr Lizardo

If there is any bright side, it could well ends up that Clinton wins the popular vote but Trump wins the EC vote. That’ll hopefully dampen any claims the GOP may have about a mandate for Trump.

But then again, this is the GOP we’re talking about, so……..probably not.

Nah, that never stopped them in 2000 with Bush-Gore and Trump is going to have won by a bigger EV margin and without the shannigans in FL that Bush did. They’re going to use this to push the shit they’ve always wanted to.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:59:03pm

re: #600 freetoken

But isn’t this another indictment of the Clinton campaign?

If North Carolinians were willing to vote Dem for governor, but not for Clinton, what does that tell us?

They’re morons.
Full. Stop.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:59:26pm

re: #582 Kragar

My youngest wants to join the military some day.

I won’t let her under Trump

Republicans want women out of the military anyway (it’s in their party platform)

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:59:55pm

re: #582 Kragar

My youngest wants to join the military some day.

I won’t let her under Trump

The Foreign Legion would be better than that… O_O

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 10:59:57pm

re: #600 freetoken

But isn’t this another indictment of the Clinton campaign?

If North Carolinians were willing to vote Dem for governor, but not for Clinton, what does that tell us?

NC really loves basketball and McCrory was really unpopular…especially after basketball fled from the state because of HB2

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NJDhockeyfan  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:00:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:00:23pm

re: #602 FormerDirtDart

one last tweet share

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Also the first time they didn’t have a Bush or Nixon on the ticket.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:00:48pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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blueraven  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:00:48pm

Well folks. Not what we wanted. Being an optimist, I will try to not get too despondent. We must fight like hell if he tries to do any kind of Muslim ban, overturn Roe v Wade, start deporting dreamers and their families…

But it does us no good to start the blame game. We have to find friends and form coalitions, and they may come in strange places.

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prairiefire  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:00:59pm

re: #587 Decatur Deb

If we had chosen HRC, that would have been difficult path to a distant, humane future.
We will still get there, not as soon, and not until all of us have passed through the fire.
This is a thousand year war.

Love you, papa Decatur

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:01:53pm

re: #589 freetoken

Drumpfskind still won there. McMullin took about a third of the Romney votes.

Yes. Still some were better than trumpenfuhrer voters.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:01:55pm

Wingnut uproars now over Hilary “refusing to concede.”

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Timothy Watson  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:02:07pm

re: #587 Decatur Deb

If we had chosen HRC, that would have been difficult path to a distant, humane future.
We will still get there, not as soon, and not until all of us have passed through the fire.
This is a thousand year war.

I know you worked your ass off, interstate no less.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:02:34pm

It’s too early to tell on most of the propositions here in California. But early results tell me that the death penalty is still popular here. But I expect that to change once more of the vote share comes in.

What surprises me is Prop 61, which was an attempt to put into effect bargaining for medicine bought by the state, to not pay more than what the VA pays for the same drugs.

BigPharma poured lots of money into the state to defeat it, and that may have worked.

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:02:48pm

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:02:53pm

One dead in California polling station shooting by heavily-armed suspect, shooter still on the run.

yahoo.com

One person has been killed and at least three others injured in a shooting near a polling station in Azusa, California. Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Captain Jeff Scroggin said police were responding to the active shooting, which involved at least one heavily armed suspect.

Few details have been released about the attack in a residential neighbourhood with officer Jerry Willison of the Azusa Police Department telling the Associated Press that the situation was volatile and critical.

The Los Angeles Times reported that at least one of the victims was heading to the polling station to vote. When officers arrived, they found a man armed with a rifle who immediately opened fire. Officers were forced to take cover as they exchanged gunfire with the suspect.

The suspect barricaded himself inside a nearby house. No officers were injured during the shootout.

Witness Roberto Chavez, 67, said he saw the gunman fire at least 10 rounds at a group of people. The suspect, wearing a white shirt and black pants, reportedly ran into a home three doors down from Chavez. The man and his wife were told to shelter in place. “It’s a very dangerous situation,” Chavez said.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:03:05pm

re: #614 Eclectic Cyborg

Wingnut uproars now over Hilary “refusing to concede@.

Considering they supported the guy that insisted the election was rigged and won anyhow, I don’t want to hear it from them.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:03:18pm

re: #617 Archangelus

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Hey, Virginia was blue. Barely.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:03:38pm

Oh, and the weed lovers will be happy…

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:03:48pm

re: #611 blueraven

Well folks. Not what we wanted. Being an optimist, I will try to not get too despondent. We must fight like hell if he tries to do any kind of Muslim ban, overturn Roe v Wade, start deporting dreamers and their families…

But it does us no good to start the blame game. We have to find friends and form coalitions, and they may come in strange places.

Good luck. Majority House, Senate, and all those empty judge seats the GOP didn’t fill? They will now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:03:50pm

re: #617 Archangelus

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Hey we in Virginia actually did the right thing. Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin did not.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:03:55pm

Soon I will be 61. I was looking forward to maybe putting another 4 years in at Social Security until I got my Medicare card.

Now that’s looking like it’s going to be taken away from me along with my Civil Service pension.

It’s going to be a tough 8 years. I’m not limiting Trump to 4 years because this country was stupid enough to elect Nixon, Reagan and Dumbya to two terms…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:04:15pm

re: #621 freetoken

Oh, and the weed lovers will be happy…

They’re gonna need it.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:04:17pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:04:18pm

SNL better sign Baldwin to a 4 year deal.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:04:23pm

re: #591 Dr Lizardo

If there is any bright side, it could well ends up that Clinton wins the popular vote but Trump wins the EC vote. That’ll hopefully dampen any claims the GOP may have about a mandate for Trump.

But then again, this is the GOP we’re talking about, so……..probably not.

This is, after all, a Party dedicated to the principle that 50% +1 is all the mandate they need. As long as that 1 is GOP…..

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Chrysicat  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:04:31pm

re: #617 Archangelus

You needed to re-shoop it from Y2K! Colorado and NM are part of the blue now–though not enough to have put ColoradoCare into practice!

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:04:35pm

John Podesta: Too many states too close to call, we will have more to say tomorrow.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:05:28pm

re: #630 Anymouse

John Podesta: Too many states too close to call, we will have more to say tomorrow.

I hope that’s right but it’s not going to be pretty even if she does pull it out.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:06:13pm

Clinton not conceding. Not sure if it’s stubbornness or if they know something.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:06:15pm

re: #627 Eclectic Cyborg

Will Baldwin be allowed to perform from jail?
/

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OhNoZombies!  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:06:22pm

re: #446 Eclectic Cyborg

Minorities in America be like: What the fuck white people???

Heh…
Well, maybe those new to America…
Those of us who’ve been here since forever just sigh and shake our heads. Just gotta keep on keepin’ on. The battle might be lost, but not the war.

Personally, I hope, if nothing else, a Trump win will passify those fragile aching egos, and folks will calm the fuck down.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:06:48pm

re: #624 Joe Bacon

Soon I will be 61. I was looking forward to maybe putting another 4 years in at Social Security until I got my Medicare card.

Now that’s looking like it’s going to be taken away from me along with my Civil Service pension.

I’ve seen no indication of that, nor of changing SS.

Note how absent retirement programs were from the election.

I suspect that the GOP in Congress are more than happy to not open that can of worms.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:06:51pm

re: #415 Anymouse

My congressman ran unopposed, thanks to the Democratic Party’s fifty state strategy. (Oh wait, we didn’t have one.)

In the village board election,. a write in candidate who is a Teanut won by four votes. I suspect in 2018, I will be off the board (I supported Clinton over Trump, and am the only Democrat elected in entire Nebraska Panhandle).

We had hardly any Dems on any ballots here in SC—and in my county, other than a few long-term State level Dems running unopposed, every fucking one of them lost. One, an incumbent on county council who has been out in his community doing great stuff lost 58-42.

Our board of education is, I believe, now 100% Republican, so you just know what that means.

It’s not that I didn’t expect it, but total defeat, coupled with the likelihood (I’m still hoping with all my heart) that we will have a vulgar asshole as president and a cadre of ugly, hating assholes cheering him on is almost more than I can stand.

Every fucking Democrat

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:07:05pm

Yeah, gonna get more coffee.
Good thing I have the day off.
;)

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:07:16pm

Do you think he might try to sell Trump steaks outta’ the White House?
What will this do to his tie manufacturing in China?
Is Melania really going to make Cyber bullying her platform as first lady without any hint of irony?
So many questions. So much International embarrassment.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:07:27pm

re: #632 Ace-o-aces

Clinton not conceding. Not sure if it’s stubbornness or if they know something.

I honestly don’t know.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:07:27pm

re: #632 Ace-o-aces

Clinton not conceding. Not sure if it’s stubbornness or if they know something.

Would love to know where they have 500,000 votes hidden.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:08:01pm
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:08:15pm

re: #637 Varek Raith

Yeah, gonna get more coffee.
Good thing I have the day off.
;)

LOL same here. My Czech friends and students are just waking up to the news and they’re all like WTF?!!!

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:08:25pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:08:46pm

President Donald Trump.

Yikes.

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prairiefire  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:09:02pm

re: #634 OhNoZombies!

((ONZ))

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:09:08pm

re: #626 Kragar

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I support women’s rights, but I voted for a guy who thinks women are sex objects and slaves.

I love all gays, but I voted for a guy whose VP thinks gays should be ostracized from society and a pres who thinks gay marriage is a “states rights” issue.

I love Jesus, but I voted for a guy who thinks that America needs to involve itself in a religious war and torture enemy combatants.

I’m a Christian, which is why I support a guy who has broken at least half of the commandments.

So of course I voted for Trump, because I’m a massive fucking hypocrite and I like the guy who isn’t abashed about being one.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:09:24pm

re: #641 Ace-o-aces

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I forget Gary. How many states did you even get 10% of the vote in? But yeah such a great movement you got going.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:09:49pm

re: #641 Ace-o-aces

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Must be the laxative.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:10:24pm

I’m out.

See you in the morning. Maybe.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:10:26pm

re: #644 teleskiguy

President Donald Trump.

Yikes.

It’s like something out of a bad dream.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:10:42pm

re: #635 freetoken

I’ve seen no indication of that, nor of changing SS.

Note how absent retirement programs were from the election.

I suspect that the GOP in Congress are more than happy to not open that can of worms.

They have all three branches. Privatization is a given the only question is if they let those already on it to keep it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:10:42pm

re: #641 Ace-o-aces

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Sure, it’s a movement…a bowel movement. A big, stinking pile of shit that was plopped right in the center of the body politic.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:11:13pm

In case some of you don’t know, I deal with bullshit like this with humor and light heartedness.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:11:43pm

re: #651 William Lewis

They have all three branches. Privatization is a given the only question is if they let those already on it to keep it.

Paul Ryan’s jizzed in his pants already tonight, I’m sure.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:11:54pm

re: #641 Ace-o-aces

As silly as he is, Johnson probably took many more votes from Drumpfskind than he did from Hillary.

Hillary lost because people just didn’t turn out to vote for her.

And a consequence of that is poor performance for some down ballot races in various states.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:12:14pm

re: #653 Varek Raith

In case some of you don’t know, I deal with bullshit like this with humor and light heartedness.

I’m slowly pushing through the initial flash of anger and moving into biting sarcasm.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:12:14pm

re: #654 TedStriker

Paul Ryan’s jizzed in his pants already tonight, I’m sure.

Several pairs, presumably.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:12:17pm

Your wages are too high America.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:12:18pm

In the event of a Donald Trump presidency I can only hope that it’ll be so grossly incompetent as to render articles of impeachment in the first few months.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:12:33pm

re: #653 Varek Raith

In case some of you don’t know, I deal with bullshit like this with humor and light heartedness.

Sometimes, you gotta laugh because, otherwise, there’s nothing else you can do but cry.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:13:04pm

re: #618 Anymouse

One dead in California polling station shooting by heavily-armed suspect, shooter still on the run.

yahoo.com

I think that’s old. They found the shooter and he’s dead. That was the last I saw.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:13:42pm

I don’t know what pisses me off more- the fact that Trump won or the fact as soon as Trump won, we get “should have nominated Bernie”, hey here’s an original thought, maybe if you wanted Bernie to be nominated, he should have ran a better fucking campaign. I’ve come to like Bernie more but please do not insist we should have ignored the will of our party’s voters by nominating someone who wasn’t even in our party until last year and was far from a perfect candidate. You got the most progressive DNC platform of your lifetime and just because a seventy plus year old from a lily white state wasn’t the nominee doesn’t mean you get to bitch.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:14:10pm

Obama declaring martial law and making himself President-for-Life is starting to sound pretty damn good.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:14:15pm

re: #434 Scottishdragon

538

I can’t imagine why college-educated women weren’t closer to 75% (actually, 100% wouldn’t have been unreasonable.) Very disappointed in my sisters.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:14:26pm

Republicans are on the verge of dominating all levels of government

Republicans have had a surprisingly fantastic election night.

They have held onto their majority in the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. They are set to break records for governors’ mansions, to keep their historically high number of state legislative chambers — and maybe even win the presidency.

Donald Trump is putting up a surprisingly strong fight in key battleground states. He just won Florida, Ohio and North Carolina, broadening his path to victory.

Further down the ballot, Republicans managed to hold off Democratic attacks on numerous fronts to keep their tenuous Senate majority. Republicans defended their vulnerable candidates in seven Senate races — Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Missouri and Indiana — that were critical to helping them keep the Senate majority.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:14:39pm

re: #663 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Obama declaring martial law and making himself President-for-Life is starting to sound pretty damn good.

Let’s not go there.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:14:47pm

re: #633 Kragar

Will Baldwin be allowed to perform from jail?
/

NBC is calling it as “she saw what Gore did.” Cut to Katy Tur at Trump’s campaign headquarters, crowd yelling at the press “call it, call it.”

Alaska called for Trump. NBC says they have no idea what a GOP Congress with a larger share than under Geo. W. Bush would do (they’re still playing that “magic balance fairy they might do anything crap”)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:15:10pm

re: #665 Amory Blaine

Republicans are on the verge of dominating all levels of government

And yet they’ll continue to run for election and re-election insisting government doesn’t work while we pay their salaries.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:15:16pm

re: #659 teleskiguy

In the event of a Donald Trump presidency I can only hope that it’ll be so grossly incompetent as to render articles of impeachment in the first few months.

“High crimes and misdemeanors” is a high bar to clear; besides, in any case, Pence will be either the power behind the throne or on the throne itself.

The Religious Right has finally won.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:15:54pm

re: #659 teleskiguy

In the event of a Donald Trump presidency I can only hope that it’ll be so grossly incompetent as to render articles of impeachment in the first few months.

With the way the GOP has now locked up everything? What would he have to do???

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:15:56pm

re: #440 Amory Blaine

Johnson defeats Feingold in Senate race
Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson pulled off one of Wisconsin’s great political upsets.

That is like the nail in my coffin or a dagger through my heart. Spit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:16:13pm

Still no major network calling for Trump yet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:16:53pm

re: #672 Eclectic Cyborg

Still no major network calling for Trump yet.

They will come morning. Damn, I’m going to have this on my mind all day at work tomorrow.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:17:24pm
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blueraven  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:17:35pm

re: #632 Ace-o-aces

Clinton not conceding. Not sure if it’s stubbornness or if they know something.

All the votes haven’t been counted. The race has not been called. 270 has not yet been reached. It is not unusual to wait until these things happen before conceding.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:17:42pm

I guess I’m glad to say it but I’m glad I didn’t get into the state department. Having to take orders from Newt and Trump would sicken me because it would go agaisnt everything I believe in about building America’s reputation around the world.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:17:46pm

Well, assuming the US and the world doesn’t implode, the GOP will own the next four years. Like Canada, when they have a government, that party owns whatever happens.

If the world survives.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:18:04pm

re: #666 HappyWarrior

Let’s not go there.

The RWNJs brought it up—and of course it’ll never happen. But assuming there is an election in 2020, would Trump accept defeat?

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Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:18:25pm

It’s like The Purge, but it lasts four years.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:18:32pm

Suddenly getting a lot of call-hangups with no caller ID at just past midnight at my house. WTF

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:18:39pm

re: #678 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The RWNJs brought it up—and of course it’ll never happen. But assuming there is an election in 2020, would Trump accept defeat?

Man I don’t even want to think about that. I’m already in shock that the son of a bitch is our President Elect.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:19:06pm

Gold surged but now it looks like people are taking profits:

kitco.com

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:19:17pm

re: #677 MsJ

Well, assuming the US and the world doesn’t implode, the GOP will own the next four years. Like Canada, when they have a government, that party owns whatever happens.

If the world survives.

Of course the last time that happened was 1929.

Good f—-ing grief.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:19:46pm

re: #442 Eric The Fruit Bat

So, now it appears we are on the verge of electing to the most powerful position in the free world with the following qualities: (1) A man who has never served in public office, (2) A man who has never served in the military, (3) A man whose knowledge of diplomacy is non-existant and whose political skills were mainly used to clear the way to get his business ventures off the ground, (4) A man who has a horrible track record of stiffing contractors, (5) A man whose leadership has bankrupted at least six businesses and cost investors millions, while he walks away virtually unscathed, (6) A truly horrible misogynist, who pleaded the fifth over 50 times during his first divorce trial, (7) A man who casually and freely insults anyone and everyone who he doesn’t like, and holds grudges for ages.

Now it looks like just over half the country has decided to elect the above person with access to the nuclear launch sequence with the above traits simply because he believes that he can “Make America Great Again.”

How the holy hell did we get here?

And let’s not forget that he’s going to put all of his businesses and investments in a “blind trust” that is the opposite of a blind trust for his spawn to run, and it will be OK because the spawn said they won’t talk to dad about it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:20:24pm

Well, looks like Merrick Garland will never make the Supreme Court.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:21:02pm

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Yeah, seems right.

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OhNoZombies!  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:21:25pm

re: #672 Eclectic Cyborg

Still no major network calling for Trump yet.

Took Rove awhile to come around too. Hard to admit you’ve been dead wrong the whole time; even harder to admit that the inmates have taken over the asylum.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:22:13pm

re: #684 BeachDem

And let’s not forget that he’s going to put all of his businesses and investments in a “blind trust” that is the opposite of a blind trust for his spawn to run, and it will be OK because the spawn said they won’t talk to dad about it.

Lonesome Rhodes is now likely to be our next President.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:22:30pm

Drain the swamp, from people who are giving the guy who is bringing Newt Gingrich back to Washington, had Chris Christie as a top surrogate, has Rudy Giuliani too, really these goddamn Anti-Washington voters don’t know what the fuck they want. Be pissed at trade deals all you want, I won’t deny them that, but do NOT insult our intelligence by electing a man who actually profitted from those same trade deals and ahs a ton of Washington types helping him. And furthermore if you’re so Anti-Washington, why do you keep on re-electing your Republican Congresspeople? Oh right, you only hate “those” people from Washington.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:22:33pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:22:40pm

re: #670 Myron Falwell (no relation)

With the way the GOP has now locked up everything? What would he have to do???

I guess drop a huge bomb on Hollywood and the Bay Area. Oh, and Minneapolis will probably have to go.

Why am I typing this?

President Donald Trump.

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blueraven  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:23:06pm

re: #683 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Of course the last time that happened was 1929.

Good f—-ing grief.

2003 - 2007

George Bush. R Senate and House.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:23:14pm

re: #688 TedStriker

Lonesome Rhodes is now likely to be our next President.

The sequel to A Face In The Crowd.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:23:18pm

re: #685 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, looks like Merrick Garland will never make the Supreme Court.

That should never be forgotten. What the GOP did there made a mockery of the court and now we’re going to get another Scalia clone.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:23:26pm

trump victory speech imminent

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:24:03pm

re: #457 Big Beautiful Door

I think y’all might be overestimating how ideologically coherent the GOP will be when it actually has to govern instead of obstruct. Senators and Congressman have to answer to constituents, which means Paul Ryan doesn’t get everyone of his ideological fantasies automatically enacted into law.

Oh, but they have Jim DeMint and the Heritage Foundation (and lots and lots of money) to help them achieve their goals; and ALEC to write the legislation.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:24:34pm

re: #695 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trump victory speech imminent

Haha, no thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:24:49pm

re: #690 goddamnedfrank

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Hope the miners thought of that. I’m proud to be a miner’s great grandson but those miners who voted for Trump acted stupidly and selfishly.

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:25:02pm
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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:25:04pm

We’re going to be run by a President and cabinet that watches Alex Jones and reads Breitbart and The National Enquirer.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:25:11pm

re: #692 blueraven

2003 - 2007

George Bush. R Senate and House.

And it was such good times. //

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:25:18pm

re: #698 HappyWarrior

Hope the miners thought of that. I’m proud to be a miner’s great grandson but those miners who voted for Trump acted stupidly and selfishly.

Not that coal mines are coming back, mind you.

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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:25:32pm

Keep in mind provisional and absentee ballots still need to be counted.

May not matter, we will see though.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:25:46pm

re: #700 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Were going to be run by a President and cabinet that watches Alex Jones and reads Breitbart and The National Enquirer.

Hell, Alex Jones will probably be the Press Secretary.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:26:02pm

re: #700 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Were going to be run by a President and cabinet that watches Alex Jones and reads Breitbart and The National Enquirer.

Yeah that may be the scariest thing. I didn’t like Bush but he wasn’t getting his info from shit like those.

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EdDantes  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:26:10pm

Shouldn’t Hillary have come out and addressed her supporters instead of John Podesta?

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:26:11pm

re: #703 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

Which is why the major outlets will not call the race.

Though of course the Drumpfskindanhangers will not accept that as an answer.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:26:15pm

What’s the margin for automatic recounts? What states have them? Which states would automatically trigger them? Anyone know?

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:26:41pm

I’m a white male of German descent, I don’t have a lot to fear from a Donald Trump presidency. But those that don’t look like me are about to see some Nazi Germany shit.

I am vehemently angry at third party voters right now. Congratulations you fucks, instead of Jill Stein you get an orange fascist shit goblin.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:26:52pm

re: #702 Varek Raith

Not that coal mines are coming back, mind you.

That’s why I think they acted selfishly. They should haev been willing to listen to the promises of alternative energy. I get it, for many of them it’s all they’ve known and in parts of WV especially a generational thing passed down from father to son but damn it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:27:02pm

My thoughts turn away from the Bros and wingnuts now to the “serious” conservatives, the ones who supported Trump because they hated Hillary and figured he was the “lesser of two evils.” Particularly the thought in my head turns to the scene between Bane and Daggett in The Dark Knight Rises.

The Dark Knight Trilogy — Do You Feel In Charge? (Bane) — Own It Now

They think they have Trump under control, that he owes some measure of loyalty to them because he used their party, their money, their power to attain the White House. But now, he has the White House, he’s the president, he’s calling the shots as the head of the party. If Ryan and McConnell spend time carefully passing bills through but Trump doesn’t like them because it hurts his poll numbers, then where do they turn?

The DNC? Not a chance, they have every reason to see the GOP fail.

The public? The public just elected the man on the promise that he’d “drain the swamp,” guys, which means he was talking about you.

The media? They just got done putting the man in office, they have their fingerprints on far worse mistakes by pass administrations, you feel they’re gonna take your side?

Welcome to the reality of the next four years, my “serious” conservative friends. You sold your souls away and you didn’t even make sure to save the receipts.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:27:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:27:57pm

re: #696 BeachDem

Oh, but they have Jim DeMint and the Heritage Foundation (and lots and lots of money) to help them achieve their goals; and ALEC to write the legislation.

Also Trump is has no ideology beyond feeding his racist white hoards minority suffering and expulsion. If Ryan co-signs onto that Donald will be happy to help him gut Social Security and Medicare.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:28:17pm

Congratulations Trump voters. You just turned America into a Russian satellite state.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:28:20pm

I’m more hopeful than this poor sap:

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:29:07pm

Boss just fired me over the phone. Still on his purity pony Vermin Supreme vote “Democrats should have run a better candidate”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:29:13pm

re: #715 teleskiguy

I’m more hopeful that this poor sap:

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We have endured bad presidents before. I’m just really worried because we have made so much progress these past eight years and a lot of that is going to be wiped out.

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blueraven  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:29:17pm

re: #701 HappyWarrior

And it was such good times. //

Nope. But we did have undivided govt for a while since 1929. Also, very briefly the Ds had it with Obama. Hopefully, in 2018 we can take back at least one house of congress.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:29:19pm

Well, enough feeling sorry for myself.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:29:29pm

Son of a bitch. You really CAN win the White House by appealing to literally the worst in Americans. I sure hoped that wasn’t the case, but now?

Could somebody else have beaten Trump? Honestly, I don’t know. I don’t think Bernie would have pulled it off. I don’t think he’d have done any better attracting the people Trump did, because in the end, all he had was economics, not xenophobia, and that wasn’t what those people wanted.

What’s next? I don’t know if Trump even has any real plans. It’s not like he means anything he says.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:29:39pm

re: #716 Anymouse

Boss just fired me over the phone. Still on his purity pony Vermin Supreme vote “Democrats should have run a better candidate”

Damn, I’m sorry man.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:29:57pm

re: #715 teleskiguy

I’m more hopeful that this poor sap:

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I’m not.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:30:04pm

re: #706 EdDantes

Shouldn’t Hillary have come out and addressed her supporters instead of John Podesta?

Fuck off, Ed. Seriously.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:30:19pm

re: #720 Blind Frog Belly White

Son of a bitch. You really CAN win the White House by appealing to literally the worst in Americans. I sure hoped that wasn’t the case, but now?

Could somebody else have beaten Trump? Honestly, I don’t know. I don’t think Bernie would have pulled it off. I don’t think he’d have done any better attracting the people Trump did, because in the end, all he had was economics, not xenophobia, and that wasn’t what those people wanted.

What’s next? I don’t know if Trump even has any real plans. It’s not like he means anything he says.

Trump’s “plans” are whatever he feels like when he wakes up in the morning.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:30:19pm

re: #677 MsJ

There is a much more likely problem that world war: running the US as a giant pump and dump scheme, until failure. This is where Trump and the rest of the GOP overlap: they love predatory capitalism, both in the form of unregulated privatization but also in the form of government subsidization of industries that would otherwise be inefficient. The other place they overlap—mindless, expensive bellicosity paired with disaster capitalism.

America’s superpower status ultimately comes down to how we interact with the rest of the world’s economies: our production, our consumption, our military umbrella over international trade. Bleeding consumption power by devaluing labor diminishes us; allowing free flow of businesses offshore—or back onshore with no conditions—diminishes us; being anything other than the least offensive, yet most potent projector of force globally diminishes us.

We keep talking about fatal wounds to the nation, but need to start think about all the crippling blows that could fall.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:30:23pm
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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:30:24pm

re: #716 Anymouse

Boss just fired me over the phone. Still on his purity pony Vermin Supreme vote “Democrats should have run a better candidate”

Huh??

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:30:31pm

re: #721 HappyWarrior

Damn, I’m sorry man.

Well, on the flip side, I suspect erotic Romance novels will be highly restricted or illegal soon anyway.

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OhNoZombies!  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:30:44pm

Burn the witch!!! I seen her dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight, I did!
Oh wait, we haven’t started that yet?
I sometimes get ahead of myself.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:31:20pm

re: #503 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sound like total voter turnout is lower than 2012 levels as well.

How much was voter-suppression vs. apathy, I wonder.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:31:25pm

re: #729 OhNoZombies!

Burn the witch!!! I seen her dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight, I did!
Oh wait, we haven’t started that yet?
I sometimes get ahead of myself.

Geez, keep the torches hidden.
You’ll ruin it!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:31:27pm

re: #728 Anymouse

Well, on the flip side, I suspect erotic Romance novels will be highly restricted or illegal soon anyway.

Ha, still, always sucks to lose a job.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:31:52pm

re: #727 MsJ

Huh??

I was in an argument over the phone a couple hours ago over this. He called back to fire me. He is now talking to my wife.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:32:26pm

re: #733 Anymouse

I was in an argument over the phone a couple hours ago over this. He called back to fire me. He is now talking to my wife.

Boss for what job? Editing?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:32:37pm

Wapo calls it

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:32:44pm

re: #730 BeachDem

How much was voter-suppression vs. apathy, I wonder.

I don’t know but Roberts has a special place in hell for me the way he totally dismissed the VRA by crying crocodile tears about how the South was seen as racist. I’m a Southerner and I’ve seen my fair share of CSA flags down here over the years and people liberally use the n-word.

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OhNoZombies!  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:33:08pm

re: #731 Varek Raith

Geez, keep the torches hidden.
You’ll ruin it!

Oops! I thought I smelled sulfur…got giddy.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:33:38pm
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:33:44pm

re: #736 HappyWarrior

I don’t know but Roberts has a special place in hell for me the way he totally dismissed the VRA by crying crocodile tears about how the South was seen as racist. I’m a Southerner and I’ve seen my fair share of CSA flags down here over the years and people liberally use the n-word.

I hate to say it, but you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. These freaks are now gonna feel fully emboldened.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:33:48pm

re: #735 Eclectic Cyborg

Wapo calls it

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It’s done. Sigh. As much as I’d like some miracle to happen, I don’t know if we could go through another 2000 type situation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:34:18pm

re: #739 Dr Lizardo

I hate to say it, but you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. These freaks are now gonna feel fully emboldened.

Bizzaro Sinatra, The Worst Is Yet To Come.

742
BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:34:27pm

re: #519 Scottishdragon

And the suppression of the newspapers that report on it…

Trump is going to retaliate against the Washington Post. Kurt Eichenwald is on the list as well, I imagine.

And poor Katy Tur.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:34:51pm

re: #739 Dr Lizardo

I hate to say it, but you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. These freaks are now gonna feel fully emboldened.

Just like England.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:34:52pm

re: #740 HappyWarrior

It’s done. Sigh. As much as I’d like some miracle to happen, I don’t know if we could go through another 2000 type situation.

SUMMON THE METEORS

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:35:00pm

re: #742 BeachDem

And poor Katy Tur.

Trump is going to have an Enemies Wiki that will trival Nixon’s Enemies List.

746
freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:35:29pm

re: #735 Eclectic Cyborg

Very much, Wisconsin didn’t want Hillary.

I suspect there was a lot of non-voters this year in WI.

Don’t know what that really means in the long run, but the big takeaway from this year (like 2000) is that every state counts.

747
Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:35:30pm

AP just called it.


Allah, Buddha, Jesus, Ahura Mazda, FSM help us all.
748
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:35:35pm

donald be pretty damn pissed off that hillary won’t concede tonight

sure we’ll hear about this for years

749
teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:36:11pm

re: #742 BeachDem

And poor Katy Tur.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:36:15pm

re: #743 MsJ

Just like England.

Oh yeah, I feel awful for minority kids in Trump voting areas who are going to be told to “Go Home” and shit like that.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:36:21pm

re: #747 Dr Lizardo

AP just called it.

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Allah, Buddha, Jesus, Ahura Mazda, FSM help us all.

Yeah, I’m finding that almost impossible to say.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:37:23pm

I can’t believe it. I just can’t.

753
BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:37:38pm

re: #528 HappyWarrior

Indeed, it’s easy for him to say that. Yes, I remain an American and I don’t plan to leave but you know what? I’m also a white male. My right to choose isn’t being threatened. My citizenship isn’t questioned by Trump’s asshole supporters by people looking at me. And as a straight male, my right to marry isn’t going to be threatened by right wing judicial activist dicks. And hell they probably assume looking at me, I’m one of them but I will never be one of those right wign assholes that elected this monster.

That’s why you can stay on my lawn.

But the rest of them can go fuck themselves with chainsaws.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:37:42pm

This is just the beginning.

755
Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:37:53pm

re: #734 MsJ

Boss for what job? Editing?

He is the senior editor of my publisher.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:37:55pm

Regarding Wisconsin, Drumpfskind is about at what Romney got.

But Clinton will end up down at least 200 to 300 thousand votes from Obama in 2012.

757
HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:38:32pm

re: #753 BeachDem

That’s why you can stay on my lawn.

But the rest of them can go fuck themselves with chainsaws.

I said it already but I fucking hate how my demographic votes and they do it because of their own bigotries and resentments.

758
Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:38:56pm

Ok lets look at a possible positive here. He is 70, so maybe…….

Just kidding (no i’m not)

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:39:12pm

re: #746 freetoken

Very much, Wisconsin didn’t want Hillary.

I suspect there was a lot of non-voters this year in WI.

Don’t know what that really means in the long run, but the big takeaway from this year (like 2000) is that every state counts.

Yup. That’s why the Dems didn’t run a candidate in my House district, why there was no campaigning here, &c. Every state counts.

760
OhNoZombies!  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:39:36pm

{{Sigh}}
I’m going to bed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:39:41pm

re: #756 freetoken

Regarding Wisconsin, Drumpfskind is about at what Romney got.

But Clinton will end up down at least 200 to 300 thousand votes from Obama in 2012.

Turnout as you said. I’m going to bed guys. I’ll see you guys tomorrow morning before I go to work or after I get home. I’m stunned by this. I really am. This is a dark day. Tomorrow will be better but I’m legitimately sad for our country tonight.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:39:45pm

A perfect storm of clusterfucks.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:39:48pm

re: #716 Anymouse

Boss just fired me over the phone. Still on his purity pony Vermin Supreme vote “Democrats should have run a better candidate”

The reprisals have begun…and I expect it to get much more violent than being fired.

Damn, man, I’m sorry.

764
HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:40:11pm

re: #758 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Ok lets look at a possible positive here. He is 70, so maybe…….

Just kidding (no i’m not)

Even if that did happen, Pence is even worse in some ways.

765
MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:40:13pm

re: #755 Anymouse

He is the senior editor of my publisher.

And he fucking fired you over trump?

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:41:18pm

re: #763 TedStriker

The reprisals have begun…and I expect it to get much more violent than being fired.

Damn, man, I’m sorry.

Well, you can’t have everything I guess.

I sure ain’t lookin’ forward to my next village board meeting.

767
MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:41:24pm

re: #758 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Ok lets look at a possible positive here. He is 70, so maybe…….

Just kidding (no i’m not)

Then we get Pence which is a booby prize and no consolation at all. He’s a theocrat.

Fuck me.

768
Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:41:46pm

My students are messaging me; along the lines of “WTF?!!” or “How could this happen?!!”

769
Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:41:48pm

re: #765 MsJ

And he fucking fired you over trump?

No, over calling him out for his bothsiderism.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:41:54pm

re: #764 HappyWarrior

Even if that did happen, Pence is even worse in some ways.

A darling of the RR…either as the real power behind the throne or on it, it’s six of one, a half-dozen of the other.

FUBAR

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Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:42:11pm
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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:42:24pm

re: #769 Anymouse

No, over calling him out for his bothsiderism.

Same difference.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:42:42pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:42:48pm

re: #765 MsJ

And he fucking fired you over trump?

I got fired from my job back in July because the CEO was a blatant and arrogant Trump supporter who demanded that I vote for him.

775
Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:43:09pm

only 130k votes behind

776
EdDantes  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:43:29pm

The votes have spoken. Why hasn’t Hillary?

777
Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:44:11pm

re: #776 EdDantes

The votes have spoken. Why hasn’t Hillary?

DIAF, Ed.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:44:27pm

re: #776 EdDantes

The votes have spoken. Why hasn’t Hillary?

Whomever you are, fuck off.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:44:30pm

re: #768 Dr Lizardo

My students are messaging me; along the lines of “WTF?!!” or “How could this happen?!!”

Tell them that democracy is a fragile thing, and is rather foreign to the history of humanity and only really made head way in the 20th century.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:44:57pm

re: #779 freetoken

Tell them that democracy is a fragile thing, and is rather foreign to the history of humanity and only really made head way in the 20th century.

Quite true. Sad, but true.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:45:27pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:45:43pm
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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:45:52pm

re: #776 EdDantes

The votes have spoken. Why hasn’t Hillary?

It is being reported over the Internet she has telephoned to concede.

784
teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:46:08pm

Third party voters fucked this over. Worse than in 2000 (which I admittedly was a part of, I was 18 and didn’t know any better).

785
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:46:33pm

be of good cheer and gird up for the next fight

if we are angry and in despair we are weak and at the mercy of our enemies

sit back and wait for him to fuck himself

786
BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:46:49pm

re: #575 Scottishdragon

Roy Cooper declared victory for governor in NC.

That will be the one and only bright spot I take from this.

Loosing tens of millions of dollars from basketball and other sports playoffs fleeing the state is what killed McCrory.

Didn’t any of those “found” votes after they’d said McCrory won have Hillary’s name on the ballots?

787
Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:47:16pm

re: #764 HappyWarrior

Even if that did happen, Pence is even worse in some ways.

Yes, I know. But there is no way Pence could get elected a second term without Trump cussing out rivals, name calling, p***** grabbing, making fun of tortured war heroes, flapping his arms around to make fun of the physically challenged and threatening to throw out a group of non white people.

Trump was the magic here. Not Pence.

788
Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:47:44pm

Vice-President Elect Mike Pence now speaking = fascists chants in the background while Gov. Pence praises God.

So who do they round up first, the Muslims or we out atheists? Time to read Handmaid’s Tale again.

789
William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:47:46pm

re: #776 EdDantes

The votes have spoken. Why hasn’t Hillary?

Get buggered Troll

790
Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:48:26pm

I want all of Hillary’s marvelous anti-Trump ads to be played constantly for the next four years.

791
Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:48:28pm

trump just won?

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:48:32pm

re: #581 Varek Raith

No, NBC, you don’t get to weasel your way out of this.

They (and MSNBC) were some of the biggest offenders.

793
freetoken  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:48:52pm

re: #784 teleskiguy

Third party voters fucked this over. Worse than in 2000 (which I admittedly was a part of, I was 18 a didn’t know any better).

I don’t believe that.

People just didn’t get out and vote.

Note that Drumpskind isn’t caught up to Romney yet, and Clinton is way behind Obama in 2012.

Neither Johnson or Stein are responsible for that.

Americans just didn’t want to vote for the two top candidates. The participation rate for the top of the ticket could well be below 50%.

794
Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:49:00pm

Geez. Trump coming out on stage with symphonic music like a reality TV show …

795
William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:49:41pm

re: #788 Anymouse

Vice-President Elect Mike Pence now speaking = fascists chants in the background while Gov. Pence praises God.

So who do they round up first, the Muslims or we out atheists? Time to read Handmaid’s Tale again.

Mexicans and Muslims first. Then the theocrats will decide.

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Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:50:15pm

Well, we’re now a Soviet satellite state I guess.

797
goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:50:24pm
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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:51:17pm

re: #785 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

be of good cheer and gird up for the next fight

if we are angry and in despair we are weak and at the mercy of our enemies

sit back and wait for him to fuck himself

Sit back hell. Time to start the Resistance.

799
Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:51:46pm

Mr. Trump now announcing he received a call from Secretary Clinton, congratulating him on his victory and him congratulating her on a hard-fought campaign.

Says we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service. (Trump didn’t write this.)

800
Chrysicat  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:51:46pm

re: #183 Lidane

Hey, if Trump’s dumb enough to try his ultimatum to Mexico, I seem to recall that both Fox and the current guy would be in favor of abrogating the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, so the border would jump all the race-baiters in the Southwest instead :-P

Not sure what would be done with my home state, though; Denver is in the Louisiana Purchase, but half of Pueblo is in the Texas Annexation (which would be Mexican, obvs), and almost all the historical mining towns (including all the ski resorts) are well within the Mexican Cession.

Considering we just voted blue, maybe we could arrange for the entire state to be taken back instead of following watersheds?

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piratedan  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:52:56pm

re: #377 NJDhockeyfan

yeah… welcome to the new world order, look to yourselves, the world’s global policeman is no longer on the beat…. welcome to world diplomacy pay to play

802
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:53:50pm

re: #794 Anymouse

Geez. Trump coming out on stage with symphonic music like a reality TV show …

its the theme from the movie Air Force One

803
Kragar  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:53:51pm

My wife just told be she’s scared to stay here in the US. She says she wants to go back to Japan.

804
Chrysicat  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:53:58pm

re: #800 Chrysicat

…of course, that would only be workable if Mexico were willing to have a large Anglophone contingent, as it’s almost impossible to teach enough Spanish to function, to a multilingual English-speaker :P

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Cheechako  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:54:17pm

There’s no way in hell that Trump wrote this speech.

806
DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:54:21pm

re: #796 Anymouse

Comrade Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:55:09pm

re: #801 piratedan

yeah… welcome to the new world order, look to yourselves, the world’s global policeman is no longer on the beat…. welcome too world diplomacy pay to play

Ten to one there’s much brick-shitting going on right now in many world capitals.

808
Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:55:29pm
809
TedStriker  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:55:35pm

I’d thought I’d never say this, because I have respect for the office rather than the holder of it (I’d rather respect both, as with President Obama), but Donald Trump is not my fucking President.

Not now, not ever.

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Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:56:33pm

re: #809 TedStriker

I’d thought I’d never say this, because I have respect for the office rather than the holder of it, but Donald Trump is not my fucking President.

Not now, not ever.

I’m afraid I’m in agreement.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:56:38pm
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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:56:38pm

re: #793 freetoken

I don’t believe that.

People just didn’t get out and vote.

Note that Drumpskind isn’t caught up to Romney yet, and Clinton is way behind Obama in 2012.

Neither Johnson or Stein are responsible for that.

Americans just didn’t want to vote for the two top candidates. The participation rate for the top of the ticket could well be below 50%.

That reminds me of something I read not to long ago. The Politician said something like “I want 3 million rabid, motivated supporters over 6 million lukewarm ones” .

813
Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:56:39pm

re: #809 TedStriker

I’d thought I’d never say this, because I have respect for the office rather than the holder of it, but Donald Trump is not my fucking President.

Not now, not ever.

814
Varek Raith  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:58:20pm

Think I’m going to do some farming for a bit.
store.steampowered.com

815
dlnathan  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:58:20pm

re: #803 Kragar

Could she teach me Japanese?
I would tag along if I could.

Could somebody help me look for job in Canada?
With global warming, the cold will be less of a problem.

816
Shazam  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:58:22pm

re: #809 TedStriker

Same. I’m going to pretend the next four years don’t exist, while they’re happening. He is not deserving. No matter how much you may have disliked a previous incumbent, the office still meant something. No longer. It means nothing. The presidency is a joke. I hope the other governments of the world refuse to entertain him. I would like the US media to simply ignore him and pretend the White House is empty. Attention is all he wants, and as president he will get ALL OF THE attention.

817
Anymouse  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:58:28pm

Gold up $37.70 as investment assets flee to safe haven investment.

Mexican Peso up 8.82%
Canadian Dollar up 0.59%

US Dollar is basically collapsing on all markets.

In the meantime, evangelicals have a nude model for First Lady. I have nothing against nude models, I do have a lot over hypocrites.

818
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2016 • 11:59:40pm

We laughed when Jesse Ventura got elected.
We were surprised when Arnold Schwarzenegger got elected.
We are now stunned that Donald Trump got elected.

What will the next surprise be?

819
Shazam  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:00:15am

re: #817 Anymouse

First foreign-born first lady? Is that ironic? I’m not sure anymore. Words seem to have no meaning.

820
Varek Raith  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:00:21am

re: #818 Eclectic Cyborg

We laughed when Jesse Ventura got elected.
We were surprised when Arnold Schwarzenegger got elected.
We are now stunned that Donald Trump got elected.

What will the next surprise be?

Aerith dies.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:00:29am

re: #803 Kragar

My wife just told be she’s scared to stay here in the US. She says she wants to go back to Japan.

My brother told me earlier that my sister in law wants to take the kids back to her Homeland of Guam. She wants away from the mainland.

822
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:01:02am

He’s doing the wingnut roll call
Now.

823
Single-handed sailor  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:01:03am

His cabinet being announced here?

824
Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:01:06am

The only thing I can hope for now is that Trump was trolling the entire alt-right and evangelicals and moves back to some of his more moderate views.

I know it’s very unlikely, but it’s all I have left to hang on to now.

825
lockjawcanbefun  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:01:20am

re: #818 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s see, all have pro-wrestling ties. In 2028:

President Stone Cold.

826
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:01:28am

re: #798 William Lewis

Sit back hell. Time to start the Resistance.

a good fighter lets the other guy punch himself out and reveal his weaknesses before taking a punch

rope a dope

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:01:29am

re: #809 TedStriker

I’d thought I’d never say this, because I have respect for the office rather than the holder of it (i’d rather respect both, as with President Obama), but Donald Trump is not my fucking President.

Not now, not ever.

Neither fucking Nixon, nor fucking Reagan, nor either fucking Bush was ever my President. I consoled myself with the hope that they would eventually be voted out. Now I don’t know if there’ll ever be another Presidential election. This is starting to look like armed insurrection time. I personally have nothing to lose.

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:01:33am

Trump thanking General Flynn, Gov. Chris Christie, and is bringing Dr. Ben Carson on stage.

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TedStriker  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:01:42am

re: #817 Anymouse

Gold up $37.70 as investment assets flee to safe haven investment.

Mexican Peso up 8.82%
Canadian Dollar up 0.59%

US Dollar is basically collapsing on all markets.

In the meantime, evangelicals have a nude model for First Lady. I have nothing against nude models, I do have a lot over hypocrites.

The American populace (and, indirectly, billions the world over) are fixing to be reminded that actions (or inactions) have consequences.

It’s going to be very painful, indeed.

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Kragar  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:02:34am
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Alyosha  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:02:50am

It will be a golden age of comedy.
Let us not laugh ourselves to death.

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Archangelus  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:02:54am

Quite a few of my friends on FB, from both parties, are fans of EVE Online, where events take place in the distant future after human settlers travel through a wormhole, known as the EVE Gate, to a distant corner of the universe and then get cut off from the Milky Way when the Eve Gate collapses.

Literally every single one of those FB friends has posted in the past hour how the EVE Gate needs to be a thing right now, and I’m in complete agreement…

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:03:10am

re: #823 Single-handed sailor

His cabinet being announced here?

Pretty much. He announced all these guys earlier as potential candidates for offices.

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TedStriker  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:03:27am

re: #827 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Neither fucking Nixon, nor fucking Reagan, nor either fucking Bush was ever my President. I consoled myself with the hope that they would eventually be voted out. Now I don’t know if there’ll ever be another Presidential election. This is starting to look like armed insurrection time. I personally have nothing to lose.

No, we aren’t going to be like them in that way, that’s just crazy talk.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:03:28am

re: #818 Eclectic Cyborg

We laughed when Jesse Ventura got elected.
We were surprised when Arnold Schwarzenegger got elected.
We are now stunned that Donald Trump got elected.

What will the next surprise be?

In 2020, they will nominate an assault Rifle and thus complete their circle of life.

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Cheechako  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:03:35am

re: #809 TedStriker

I’d thought I’d never say this, because I have respect for the office rather than the holder of it, but Donald Trump is not my fucking President.

Not now, not ever.

For a short time after he was elected, President Obama was called “President Obama” by all the news media. It wasn’t long before the RWNJ and Fox started calling him “Obama”. No sign of respect at all. I’m not going to wait…I’ll just call him trump. He hasn’t earned my respect to be called President.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:03:37am

Can we get a new thread please? This one is grinding my phone to a halt.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:03:37am

please just dont be serious about making newt fucking gingrich secretary of state ferkrissakes

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:03:41am

I keep starting posts and erasing them.

For the last 8 years, we had a calm, sensible, rational person doing everything he could to use data and reason to steer the country, while the GOP House and Senate did everything they could to stop it.

Now, we have the same GOP Congress, but with a guy who doesn’t believe in empirical reasoning as the way to determine truth as President.

I wish I believed in God, so he could help us.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:03:53am

LOLOL my students are messaging me with things like “OMG Idiocracy was a documentary!”

I’ve turned on dozens of my students to that flick over the years.

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teleskiguy  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:04:15am

re: #818 Eclectic Cyborg

We laughed when Jesse Ventura got elected.
We were surprised when Arnold Schwarzenegger got elected.
We are now stunned that Donald Trump got elected.

What will the next surprise be?

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freetoken  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:04:32am

re: #824 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Drumpfskind was merely using the religious right, as they indeed have used him to now stack the USSC.

Still, his incompetence and hubris will cause chaos. At least Nixon was competent.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:04:42am

re: #769 Anymouse

No, over calling him out for his bothsiderism.

What a pussy. Sorry man.

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Shazam  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:05:23am

re: #837 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think Charles is ready to post a “Well, Trump fucking won” post.

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freetoken  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:05:31am

re: #837 Eclectic Cyborg

Can we get a new thread please? This one is grinding my phone to a halt.

I use Spy mode.

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BeachDem  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:05:47am

re: #662 HappyWarrior

I don’t know what pisses me off more- the fact that Trump won or the fact as soon as Trump won, we get “should have nominated Bernie”, hey here’s an original thought, maybe if you wanted Bernie to be nominated, he should have ran a better fucking campaign. I’ve come to like Bernie more but please do not insist we should have ignored the will of our party’s voters by nominating someone who wasn’t even in our party until last year and was far from a perfect candidate. You got the most progressive DNC platform of your lifetime and just because a seventy plus year old from a lily white state wasn’t the nominee doesn’t mean you get to bitch.

It’s already begun—a friend just forwarded this facebook post from one of our more obnoxious local bros—makes me want to barf—or clock the asshole.

None of the smug establi-Dems wanted to hear about enthusiasm gaps or wooing millennial voters … instead of trying to win over the Sanders bloc they were “preaching down” to us and scolding us to “get in line.”

This. Is on. Y O U … and I was saying it all along. You hitched OUR wagon to a deeply flawed candidate we ALL knew rarely polled north of 49%.

I’ll be accepting apologies and acknowledgements from y’all in this thread or in person or personal message if you prefer to do so in shame and under cloak of privacy.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:05:49am

re: #841 teleskiguy

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I wish!

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freetoken  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:06:05am

And set Spy to only show 25 items. Keeps Chrome in control.

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:06:11am

re: #843 goddamnedfrank

What a pussy. Sorry man.

Well, I didn’t need the editing job; I just did it mostly for fun.

I will still get my royalty cheques, though at the rate the dollar is collapsing, they might not be worth much.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:06:31am

re: #844 Shazam

I don’t think Charles is ready to post a “Well, Trump fucking won” post.

I get that. It’s close to my bedtime anyway.

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Kragar  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:07:16am
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TedStriker  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:07:27am

re: #849 Anymouse

Well, I didn’t need the editing job; I just did it mostly for fun.

I will still get my royalty cheques, though at the rate the dollar is collapsing, they might not be worth much.

I hope you gave them some good parting shots before they hung up on you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:08:21am

Other things that didn’t matter - honesty. Competence. Experience. Emotional stability. Pulling people together. Hope.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:08:33am

President Donald Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho Trump

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:08:38am

re: #846 BeachDem

It’s already begun—a friend just forwarded this facebook post from one of our more obnoxious local bros—makes me want to barf—or clock the asshole.

None of the smug establi-Dems wanted to hear about enthusiasm gaps or wooing millennial voters … instead of trying to win over the Sanders bloc they were “preaching down” to us and scolding us to “get in line.”

This. Is on. Y O U … and I was saying it all along. You hitched OUR wagon to a deeply flawed candidate we ALL knew rarely polled north of 49%.

I’ll be accepting apologies and acknowledgements from y’all in this thread or in person or personal message if you prefer to do so in shame and under cloak of privacy.

Nope, the Bernie or busters are part of the problem with this (one of them just fired me).

I supported Senator Sanders. I phoned for him. I mailed letters for him. And when my party, which I have been a member of since I voted for President Carter against Ronald Reagan, I went with my party’s candidate.

I got fired for that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:09:22am

re: #834 TedStriker

No, we aren’t going to be like them in that way, that’s just crazy talk.

I think at least Washington, Oregon, California, Hawaii, and maybe Nevada need to be considering our options….

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freetoken  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:10:12am

The vote counting out here in California is going so slowly… you folk on the east coast will be waking up before some of our races are determined.

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:11:41am

Wife changed E-mail tagline:

Due to recent market conditions, rising gas and oil prices, and the collapse of the dollar, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

Trump campaign headquarters playing “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.” And boy his supporters are about to find that out.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:12:53am

re: #858 Anymouse

Wife changed E-mail tagline:

Due to recent market conditions, rising gas and oil prices, and the collapse of the dollar, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

Trump campaign headquarters playing “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.” And boy his supporters are about to find that out
.

Maybe he’s sending a subtle message to his supporters with that song selection.

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Targetpractice  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:13:00am

re: #858 Anymouse

Wife changed E-mail tagline:

Due to recent market conditions, rising gas and oil prices, and the collapse of the dollar, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

Trump campaign headquarters playing “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.” And boy his supporters are about to find that out.

Tomorrow will be the morning after the Brexit vote, when people woke up wondering when the fuck it all went so wrong.

In three months, we get the immediate weeks after Brexit, when the cabal of nutters and lying shits who pushed it began admitting they hadn’t the first fucking clue how to make it reality and none of the promises they made were actually coming true.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:13:20am

re: #857 freetoken

The vote counting out here in California is going so slowly… you folk on the east coast will be waking up before some of our races are determined.

At least we have weed and Kamala Harris to console ourselves.

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BeachDem  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:14:27am

re: #688 TedStriker

Lonesome Rhodes is now likely to be our next President.

Those morons out there? Shucks, I could take chicken fertilizer and sell it to them as caviar. I could make them eat dog food and think it was steak. Sure, I got ‘em like this… You know what the public’s like? A cage of Guinea Pigs. Good Night you stupid idiots. Good Night, you miserable slobs. They’re a lot of trained seals. I toss them a dead fish and they’ll flap their flippers.

I’ve quoted this a lot during the campaign, but now it truly curdle my blood. (It was Rhodes’ undoing, but it is just the beginning with Trump. We are well and truly fucked)

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:14:48am

re: #860 Targetpractice

Tomorrow will be the morning after the Brexit vote, when people woke up wondering when the fuck it all went so wrong.

In three months, we get the immediate weeks after Brexit, when the cabal of nutters and lying shits who pushed it began admitting they hadn’t the first fucking clue how to make it reality and none of the promises they made were actually coming true.

Is Boris Johnson still running that bus around London on how many pounds sterling would be saved for the NHS?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:15:32am

...

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freetoken  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:16:04am

CNN gives AZ to Drumpfskind.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:16:28am

So I drown my sorrows on cheap Bacardi.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:16:39am

re: #861 Single-handed sailor

At least we have weed and Kamala Harris to console ourselves.

Marijuana is still Schedule 1. A tRump administration could still spend resources on shutting down legal sale. They probablywon’t, but

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TedStriker  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:17:39am

re: #867 Le Lapin Tueur

Marijuana is still Schedule 1. A tRump administration could still spend resources on shutting down legal sale. They probablywon’t, but

With Rudy as his AG and Pence, I guarantee they will.

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:18:05am

re: #867 Le Lapin Tueur

Marijuana is still Schedule 1. A tRump administration could still spend resources on shutting down legal sale. They probablywon’t, but

Well, Colorado, just down the road from me, will probably lose it as well. (Federal law trumps state law, all it will take is a majority GOP government to pass a law outlawing weed and all those state initiatives are gone.)

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:19:56am

All those court seats the GOP has been stonewalling? Watch how fast they get filled now.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:19:57am

Sorry guys, but you’ll have to excuse me if I’m not on board with the “Hey, chin up! It’ll be a lot of lulz,” outlook. Gen. Mike Flynn, the guy in Kragar’s #830? He joined the board of ACT for America earlier this year, which most of you probably know is a virulently anti-Muslim organization with offices all over the country. At one of their gatherings he said Islam is a “cancer” & a “political ideology’” that “hides behind being a religion.”

These people are are dead serious in their hatred and are chomping at the bit to strip me of my First Amendment protections, so I’m having a little trouble with the optimism thing.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:22:02am

re: #867 Le Lapin Tueur

Marijuana is still Schedule 1. A tRump administration could still spend resources on shutting down legal sale. They probablywon’t, but

The grow 6 plants rule will nullify much they can do. Even I can grow weed and I have a brown thumb.

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:22:32am

Good job, Nebraska.

Wheat, corn, and soybeans are down more than 1% on the election results.

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freetoken  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:22:47am

re: #871 CuriousLurker

It it’s any consolation, and maybe it’s not, this election was all about Americans not wanting to vote for those two.

Bigotry is alive and well in America, true.

But I suspect many Republicans will look at this vote and be a bit shocked too.

Not the religious right, for sure, but the rest of them will wonder what is happening.

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:24:16am

re: #871 CuriousLurker

Sorry guys, but you’ll have to excuse me if I’m not on board with the “Hey, chin up! It’ll be a lot of lulz,” outlook. Gen. Mike Flynn, the guy in Kragar’s #830? He joined the board of ACT for America earlier this year, which most of you probably know is a virulently anti-Muslim organization with offices all over the country. At one of their gatherings he said Islam is a “cancer” & a “political ideology’” that “hides behind being a religion.”

These people are are dead serious in their hatred and are chomping at the bit to strip me of my First Amendment protections, so I’m having a little trouble with the optimism thing.

And even if Islam was a political ideology, it is still (supposedly) protected by the I Amendment.

Waiting for the theocrats to tell me which colour triangle I need to pick out as a atheist.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:25:40am

re: #874 freetoken

It it’s any consolation, and maybe it’s not, this election was all about Americans not wanting to vote for those two.

Bigotry is alive and well in America, true.

But I suspect many Republicans will look at this vote and be a bit shocked too.

Not the religious right, for sure, but the rest of them will wonder what is happening.

Never underestimate the power of stupid, angry people to make things immeasurably worse.

Holy fuck, we elected the comments section. Hate on Bush all you will, he put experience people in the Cabinet and listened to them.

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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:26:06am

re: #874 freetoken

It it’s any consolation, and maybe it’s not, this election was all about Americans not wanting to vote for those two.

Bigotry is alive and well in America, true.

But I suspect many Republicans will look at this vote and be a bit shocked too.

Not the religious right, for sure, but the rest of them will wonder what is happening.

And we cannot allow that. They know precisely what happened. They invited, they encouraged these bigots and racists and nationalists into their party with Nixon’s Southern Strategy. There was a reason Ronald Reagan kicked off his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi.

Nope, they don’t get a pass. They are what the Democrats were during Jim Crow, and they don’t get a “gee we don’t know what happened” pass for this.

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Kragar  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:27:11am
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Alyosha  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:28:31am

re: #871 CuriousLurker

I hope you don’t take my #831 as a call for the expression of mirth.
When a joke comes to life in this way, there’s nothing funny about it.
These are terrible people. And I mourn for America.

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teleskiguy  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:29:19am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:29:34am
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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:30:20am

Well, my senator Ben Sasse’s career in the Republican Party is over.

He banked with his rejection of Donald Trump in February that there were sane conservatives.

He was wrong.

On the other hand, uber-wingnut Senator Deb Fischer (who unendorsed Mr. Trump after his pussy grabbing tape, then re-endorsed him a week later), is probably safe.

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William Lewis  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:31:47am

re: #879 Alyosha

And I mourn for America.

227 years was a a good run for a Republic. Hope the next one does better.

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Archangelus  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:33:12am

re: #883 William Lewis

227 years was a a good run for a Republic. Hope the next one does better.

The Independent Nation of California can’t happen soon enough insofar as I’m concerned… /onlyslightly

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:33:58am
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Anymouse  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:34:52am

Wonkette is not real happy about this:

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NSFW

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:35:56am

I was really K.O.ed by 2004. I didn’t follow anything political until about August 2008, when it began to look like Obama might actually win. I was crazy enough to think things might get better. It turns out I was right in 2000—that really was the end. An election blatantly stolen and everybody just acquiesced in it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:37:11am

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scottslemmons  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:38:33am

A question that I don’t think has been considered: Do the Clintons and Obamas need to flee the country? I don’t necessarily think Trump will merely put them in jail. I think there’s a not-insignificant chance he’ll just kill ‘em. :(

Trump has sworn to get revenge on a lot of prominent people. If you’re working for a major newspaper, you’ve got to ask if your employer will still be in business. What happens to journalists who’ve reported on Trump? What happens to Katy Tur? What happens to Mark Cuban? What happens to Jeff Bezos? What happens to entertainers and comedians who Trump has decided to dislike?

There aren’t many places you can flee to. The UK is almost as insane as we are. The Australians are closing in fast. The French are already incredibly racist and won’t need much of a push to jump into fascism. Canada and the Nordic countries seem pretty sane, but I doubt they can handle everyone who needs to get out.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:38:43am

re: #874 freetoken

Yeah, well upthread someone posted this, so I’m guessing there’s a significant portion that are simply bigots:

BTW, if that was caught on film—and I’m pretty sure it would have been—it’ll be showing up in Da’esh recruiting materials soon. Now that a plurality of American voters have in no uncertain terms told young American Muslims they’re not wanted here and aren’t a Real Americans™, Da’esh will no doubt find plenty of new volunteers.

I know it’s hard to understand the feeling of being a minority target if you’ve never been one yourself, whether it’s due to race, religion (or lack of), sexual preference, etc. but I can assure you it’s highly unpleasant. I guess I’m just saying don’t be surprised if those of us who are minorities get a bit testy at times.

Anyway, lizards, I’m in a piss poor mood right now so I’m gonna try (again) to get some sleep. Try to resist feeding the trolls when they inevitably come by to provoke & gloat—it gives them the satisfaction they want.

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BeachDem  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:39:13am

re: #846 BeachDem

It’s already begun—a friend just forwarded this facebook post from one of our more obnoxious local bros—makes me want to barf—or clock the asshole.

None of the smug establi-Dems wanted to hear about enthusiasm gaps or wooing millennial voters … instead of trying to win over the Sanders bloc they were “preaching down” to us and scolding us to “get in line.”

This. Is on. Y O U … and I was saying it all along. You hitched OUR wagon to a deeply flawed candidate we ALL knew rarely polled north of 49%.

I’ll be accepting apologies and acknowledgements from y’all in this thread or in person or personal message if you prefer to do so in shame and under cloak of privacy.

Just to be clear, all three paragraphs were from the bro—the last two, which did not format correctly in italics were his words NOT mine.

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freetoken  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:39:19am

re: #890 CuriousLurker

We here discounted that tweet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:40:30am

re: #888 Eclectic Cyborg

That story was from two and half weeks ago, before the Comey releases.

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Targetpractice  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:41:49am

re: #891 BeachDem

Just to be clear, all three paragraphs were from the bro—the last two, which did not format correctly in italics were his words NOT mine.

Yeah, I’m seeing the same sentiment elsewhere. “You should have listened to us,” “This is on you,” “Bernie would have won.”

Fuck that and fuck them. The lot of them are petulant children whose egos have now set this nation up for another 4 years of Hell at the very worst time for doing so. If they think we’re gonna come around and see they were right, the whole lot of them can go fuck themselves.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:42:43am

re: #888 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know why you’re posting that, but it’s prolly not wise right now. Whatever though.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:43:48am

re: #879 Alyosha

I hope you don’t take my #831 as a call for the expression of mirth.
When a joke comes to life in this way, there’s nothing funny about it.
These are terrible people. And I mourn for America.

I know. I’m just feeling really twitchy tonight, which is why I’m getting ready to bounce.

Later, lizards.

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Targetpractice  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:45:12am

The UK has been getting savaged for months for Brexit and people have commented that that was possibly the worst thing that a modern nation could do to itself.

55 million Americans took that as a challenge.

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gocart mozart  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:46:19am
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BeachDem  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:51:54am

re: #886 Anymouse

Wonkette is not real happy about this:

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Yes, Rebecca:

I deny that a woman like Hillary Clinton lost to that monstrous Horror Klown for any reason besides THIS COUNTRY IS HORRIBLE. Fuck your bullshit emails, fuck your bullshit FBI, fuck your bullshit “she ran a bad campaign; she was a dud and he was exciting.” The man is a rambling, boring toddler. If they “loved him,” it wasn’t for his charisma, it was for his flat-out fascism, BECAUSE THEY ARE LIZARD-BRAINED PEOPLE WHO LOVE TORTURING OTHERS.

wonkette.com

NSFW

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BeachDem  Nov 9, 2016 • 12:58:25am

re: #898 gocart mozart

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Since we’ve never seen his tax returns (the media were busy reading emails) we don’t really have clue fucking one what his business enterprises are, who he’s indebted to, or who he’s in bed with business-wise.

But hey, no problem. The kids said they won’t talk to daddy about any of it.

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Chrysicat  Nov 9, 2016 • 1:23:26am

re: #804 Chrysicat

Monolingual even!

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unproven innocence  Nov 9, 2016 • 2:54:47am

re: #387 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m probably going to cut down the amount I am here.

I will be going into my faith more. Tonight, I did feel my faith again

Don’t go there. I’ve read your book.


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