R.I.P. Leonard Cohen
Maybe he just couldn’t abide by the election results…
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2016 officially sucks now.
Moving this here from the main thread.
More digging indicates she was still alive a year or two ago, near the Pacific.
re: #4 Nyet
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heh
They probably see how you fight Holocaust deniers with a lot of grit.
This is a straight news headline in Trump’s America:
White supremacists urge trolling Clinton supporters to suicidehttps://t.co/Fh9sqxQOJl— Adam Jentleson (@AJentleson) November 12, 2016
Been writing about the convergence of US and European far right parties for years. Here it is, out in the open. @kylegriffin1
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 12, 2016
I answer yes to the invitation of Stephen Bannon, CEO of @realDonaldTrump presidential campaign, to work together. https://t.co/tPSoY5A2vS
— Marion Le Pen (@Marion_M_Le_Pen) November 12, 2016
Marion Le Pen, leader of France’s far-right movement, says she’s accepted the invitation of Steve Bannon to work with the Trump admin. https://t.co/YxBNWcaK6N
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 12, 2016
re: #8 HappyWarrior
Fat chance assholes.
If what I’ve been through hasn’t killed me, a bunch of stupid fat fucks hiding behind their computer screens sure as hell won’t.
President-elect @realDonaldTrump transition team. pic.twitter.com/dJZzA4qw2r
— Fox News (@FoxNews) November 12, 2016
Oboy.
“the second letter, she said, awakened Donald Trump’s voters.”
https://t.co/X4WitUCDzI— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) November 12, 2016
re: #10 Charles Johnson
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I have to say as much as I disliked Bush, he never courted the Eurofascists. Indeed, they even saw him as their enemy and Bush’s biggest European ally was Tony Blair. We’re seeing the birth of a new fascism in the world. J just hope other countries do NOT follow our example but Brexit was a troubling sign.
@kylegriffin1 1) France’s Front National started as an openly Nazi-sympathizing, Holocaust-denying hate group. Marine Le Pen has cleaned up the image …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 12, 2016
@kylegriffin1 2) somewhat, but the hatred and xenophobia remain the same.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 12, 2016
re: #16 austin_blue
Portraits in Derp.
Honestly, the incompetence we’re about to see could be of biblical proportions.
re: #14 HappyWarrior
I have to say as much as I disliked Bush, he never courted the Eurofascists. Indeed, they even saw him as their enemy and Bush’s biggest European ally was Tony Blair. We’re seeing the birth of a new fascism in the world. J just hope other countries do NOT follow our example but Brexit was a troubling sign.
Bush was right of center, but not stupid right.
re: #13 JasonA
Oboy.
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I don’t doubt it. Comey was fucking with the election and the asshole knows it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump rewards him handsomely.
@kylegriffin1 3) This is incredibly bad news not just for the US, but the whole world. Eurofascism and the Trump administration joining forces.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 12, 2016
Saw this last night. It should be on full blast.
TRUMP WANTS TO CONTINUE HOLDING LARGE RALLIES https://t.co/6nhnwjYLnU
— slone (@slone) November 12, 2016
re: #22 Charles Johnson
Globalized White Supremacism.
re: #23 JasonA
Saw this last night. It should be on full blast.
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I hear Nuremberg isn’t too crowded this time of year.
re: #25 HappyWarrior
I hear Nuremberg isn’t too crowded this time of year.
I mean, isn’t this in the playbook?
re: #25 HappyWarrior
I hear Nuremberg isn’t too crowded this time of year.
Too bad Leni isn’t around anymore to get the “Alt-Reich” optics.
re: #6 HappyWarrior
They’ve already tweeted a link to our blog:
@altrighteous There you go: https://t.co/w1pUDthGA8 @JohnRiversToo
— Auschwitz Memorial (@AuschwitzMuseum) October 24, 2016
re: #27 austin_blue
Too bad Leni isn’t around anymore to get the “Alt-Reich” optics.
Trump has Roger Ailes. So actually he does have his Leni, unfortunately.
As if ‘16 didn’t suck enough as it is…
Climate change may be escalating so fast it could be ‘game over’, scientists warn | The Independent
re: #25 HappyWarrior
I hear Nuremberg isn’t too crowded this time of year.
Dinesh D’Souza can make a film about it.
re: #18 JasonA
Honestly, the incompetence we’re about to see could be of biblical proportions.
Gosh, even though all these Pulpit Pimps laid their hands on God’s Anointed Leader?
re: #30 Teukka
Forget it, Jake, it’s Chinatown. We’re fucked on that front, with or without Trump.
re: #31 Timothy Watson
Dinesh D’Souza can make a film about it.
I’m ready for my close up, Mr. D’Souza!
Democrats now control only 13 state legislatures (26%). If they lose 1 more they fall below the % needed to stop constitutional amendments. pic.twitter.com/6tVxNSoO2q
— Marc Porter Magee (@marcportermagee) November 12, 2016
This is misleading & the NYT map is inaccurate. Dems run 13 legislatures, 5 are split, & Rs run 32. Still concerning, but Rs would need 38 https://t.co/VEz7cwy8zE
— Stephen Wolf (@PoliticsWolf) November 12, 2016
Still, these offices need to be taken more seriously.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
I’m ready for my close up, Mr. D’Souza!
He will be too busy demonizing Keith Ellison and making movies about how the Democratic Party now wants to implement Sharia Law…
re: #36 Joe Bacon
He will be too busy demonizing Keith Ellison and making movies about how the Democratic Party now wants to implement Sharia Law…
I hate taht pathetic piece of shit.
I’m gonna need to get a cat to help me through the coming years.
re: #37 HappyWarrior
I hate taht pathetic piece of shit.
Please don’t insult shit. Dimwit D’Stupid is lower than that
Kris Kobach, architect of the law allowing police to ask all brown people for papers, joins Trump transition team: https://t.co/xfrTJSkB0h pic.twitter.com/wzBxXTjnfj
THURSDAY: trump the president will be different than trump the candidate we have to give him a chance
TODAY: https://t.co/Pqlh75ENZH— Shea Serrano (@SheaSerrano) November 12, 2016
Fear me lol
@S_ergeyR_omanov @TqueCri @NathanAngelus @MLKstudios @Ms_Revisionista
What a Liar
You are complicit in the Genocidehttps://t.co/JfcWjBKFfp— zappa (@zappamel) November 12, 2016
“Why are Clinton supporters being such sore losers” pic.twitter.com/SaTOMq1haR
— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) November 12, 2016
re: #41 JasonA
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No surprise there and hey Mitt you had him too so no complaining from you.
re: #30 Teukka
As if ‘16 didn’t suck enough as it is…
Climate change may be escalating so fast it could be ‘game over’, scientists warn | The Independent
The research referenced in that article is here:
Two points:
1) As an example, the paper uses RCP8.5 as the estimate for human activity (emissions) but that is far too aggressive a growth for carbon emissions. So the end estimate for temperature in the year 2100 likewise is at the extreme end of what is possible. But I believe strongly that economics due to resource constraints cannot allow for that scenario. Rather, we are on an RCP6 pathway.
2) Still, the point of the paper is that paleo-climate measurements indicate warming more than what dynamical models of the earth system currently estimate. This was pointed out by Jim Hansen and others years back.
Using RCP6 as an emissions pathway, the temperature at the end of the century is more likely to be 3C above preindustrial times, rather than 7C.
re: #43 Nyet
Fear me lol
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It’s beyond depressing to see Israeli lawmakers talk like that. It’s depressing for anyone to talk that way of course.
re: #44 JasonA
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That’s exactly why I support anyone who is protesting the election of this asshole and I had zero problem with Hillary calling his bigoted supporters deplorables.
re: #48 HappyWarrior
That’s exactly why I support anyone who is protesting the election of this asshole and I had zero problem with Hillary calling his bigoted supporters deplorables.
Probably the same people who were going around saying “All Lives Matter!”
re: #47 HappyWarrior
It’s beyond depressing to see Israeli lawmakers talk like that. It’s depressing for anyone to talk that way of course.
Emmm…..
re: #48 HappyWarrior
That’s exactly why I support anyone who is protesting the election of this asshole and I had zero problem with Hillary calling his bigoted supporters deplorables.
Unfortunately I’m already seeing assholes immediate jumping to calling all the protests ‘riots’ and delegitimizing them right out of the gate. The bastards are nothing if constantly on-point.
I actually truly envy their ability to craft narratives out of wholecloth.
re: #27 austin_blue
Too bad Leni isn’t around anymore to get the “Alt-Reich” optics.
Fox “News” will be an adequate replacement for her.
re: #52 Kryptik in Mourning
Unfortunately I’m already seeing assholes immediate jumping to calling all the protests ‘riots’ and delegitimizing them right out of the gate. The bastards are nothing if constantly on-point.
I actually truly envy their ability to craft narratives out of wholecloth.
Yes, my right-wing friends here in MN are already demonizing the folks who shut down I-94, demanding that they all be arrested (and some calls for deportation… surprise, surprise). Now, I do have to agree that this whole “closing major thoroughfares” thing kinda rubs me the wrong way a little bit, but… it sure is having a hell of an effect when it comes to drawing attention.
Up through 1945, an awful lot of Germans still thought they were making Germany great.
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) November 12, 2016
re: #55 JasonA
I saw one cry about that, in my German language class.
re: #51 Nyet
Emmm…..
I guess I missed something. An Israeli official didn’t call for genocide? Sorry Sergey. Just on edge since we’ve seen so much ugliness since Trump won.
re: #52 Kryptik in Mourning
Unfortunately I’m already seeing assholes immediate jumping to calling all the protests ‘riots’ and delegitimizing them right out of the gate. The bastards are nothing if constantly on-point.
I actually truly envy their ability to craft narratives out of wholecloth.
Yep, seeing that out of one of my own friends who’s being a pompous douche about it.
re: #58 HappyWarrior
Yep, seeing that out of one of my own friends who’s being a pompous douche about it.
At this rate, I’m not sure we’re ever going to pierce the Red Curtain at this rate. Everything we say gets swallowed up and regurgitated into exactly what they want to hear from us so we can be turned into the eternal Anti-American menace to squash. There’s no piercing the veil, there’s no messaging war we can win, there’s nothing. There’s fucking nothing.
re: #12 JasonA
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That is one of the most frightening collection of mugshots I’ve ever seen.
Even though I knew he would win, it is still hard to believe.
re: #61 Kryptik in Mourning
At this rate, I’m not sure we’re ever going to pierce the Red Curtain at this rate. Everything we say gets swallowed up and regurgitated into exactly what they want to hear from us so we can be turned into the eternal Anti-American menace to squash. There’s no piercing the veil, there’s no messaging war we can win, there’s nothing. There’s fucking nothing.
IT feels like the Spanish Civil War.
re: #58 HappyWarrior
Yep, seeing that out of one of my own friends who’s being a pompous douche about it.
“Oh, I’m sorry they make you uncomfortable. But you know what’s going to be even more uncomfortable: When what they’re protesting against comes to pass.”
re: #42 Joe Bacon
Jeffrey now you got me hungry for this!
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Love pastrami! Is that mustard on there?
re: #27 austin_blue
Too bad Leni isn’t around anymore to get the “Alt-Reich” optics.
Well, they have James O’Keefe and D’nesh defelon…
re: #64 HappyWarrior
IT feels like the Spanish Civil War.
More like the run-up to the Spanish Civil War. A deeply polarized society.
re: #65 Belafon
“Oh, I’m sorry they make you uncomfortable. But you know what’s going to be even more uncomfortable: When what they’re protesting against comes to pass.”
What pisses me off about him is he was apolitical all these years and he starts reading wingnut tripe and he thinks he knows fucking everything and he thinks he can look down on people who feel helpless. It’s hard for me to find the heart to really go after him about it since he’s a great friend. Maybe I will some day. If I do it, I’m doing it in person not on Facebook though.
re: #68 Dr Lizardo
More like the run-up to the Spanish Civil War. A deeply polarized society.
Yes, that’s what I mean.
re: #61 Kryptik in Mourning
At this rate, I’m not sure we’re ever going to pierce the Red Curtain at this rate. Everything we say gets swallowed up and regurgitated into exactly what they want to hear from us so we can be turned into the eternal Anti-American menace to squash. There’s no piercing the veil, there’s no messaging war we can win, there’s nothing. There’s fucking nothing.
I’ve been wondering lately if they’d actually considered the consequences of the one-party system they seem to wish we had.
re: #66 jeffreyw
Love pastrami! Is that mustard on there?
Jeffrey I love to shmear the stone ground mustard on the pastrami!
re: #70 HappyWarrior
What pisses me off about him is he was apolitical all these years and he starts reading wingnut tripe and he thinks he knows fucking everything and he thinks he can look down on people who feel helpless. It’s hard for me to find the heart to really go after him about it since he’s a great friend. Maybe I will some day. If I do it, I’m doing it in person not on Facebook though.
I do not, and likely will not ever, understand just how fucking easy it is for someone to fall forever toward wingnut land without ever dragging them back. You can pound them with facts and empathy forever and anon, and they can get converted to the hard right with a handful of tweets and become unreachable forever.
I don’t get it. I don’t fucking get it. I really just don’t fucking get it.
re: #74 Kryptik in Mourning
I do not, and likely will not ever, understand just how fucking easy it is for someone to fall forever toward wingnut land without ever dragging them back. You can pound them with facts and empathy forever and anon, and they can get converted to the hard right with a handful of tweets and become unreachable forever.
I don’t get it. I don’t fucking get it. I really just don’t fucking get it.
Just wait until it’s the administration constantly lying to us worse than any has before.
re: #76 JasonA
We won’t even know. Our whole media is gaslighting us.
re: #74 Kryptik in Mourning
I do not, and likely will not ever, understand just how fucking easy it is for someone to fall forever toward wingnut land without ever dragging them back. You can pound them with facts and empathy forever and anon, and they can get converted to the hard right with a handful of tweets and become unreachable forever.
I don’t get it. I don’t fucking get it. I really just don’t fucking get it.
It’s a paradox dude. My bud will be generous to me. I’ve been low on cash when he’s visited and he’s bought me lunch but then I see him look down on people far less off than me. Hates on immigrants even though my brother who’s also is friend is married to one and has used some of the same “entitlement” programs he loathes.
re: #74 Kryptik in Mourning
I do not, and likely will not ever, understand just how fucking easy it is for someone to fall forever toward wingnut land without ever dragging them back. You can pound them with facts and empathy forever and anon, and they can get converted to the hard right with a handful of tweets and become unreachable forever.
I don’t get it. I don’t fucking get it. I really just don’t fucking get it.
It’s akin to a mass collective psychosis.
re: #76 JasonA
Just wait until it’s the administration constantly lying to us worse than any has before.
And people will eat it up because it’s not coming from a dirty fucking lib, or a corrupt Dem, or an evil bitch, or a dirty filthy invading insert-minority-slur here. Nope, it comes from a real, hard working, blue-collar American like DONALD TRUMP. Because surely he knows the truth and struggle of the common American.
God, fucking help me.
re: #74 Kryptik in Mourning
I do not, and likely will not ever, understand just how fucking easy it is for someone to fall forever toward wingnut land without ever dragging them back. You can pound them with facts and empathy forever and anon, and they can get converted to the hard right with a handful of tweets and become unreachable forever.
I don’t get it. I don’t fucking get it. I really just don’t fucking get it.
I’m going to say it again. When the Republics declared Rush Limbaugh the Head of the Republic party back in the 90’s, I said if they ran someone like Rush, he would win. and the the idiot who runs VDARE agreed with me!
Strange Bedfellows indeed…
“Let’s have a fresh start…”
By @davidfrum
by https://t.co/tGw9I2d1bc— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) November 12, 2016
re: #64 HappyWarrior
IT feels like the Spanish Civil War.
That’s what they want.
We can’t win a “War”. We can resist. We can take all those Star Wars & WWII movie tropes and make people understand that we can be the underground and we can win in the long run.
It won’t be easy. It won’t be pretty. But it can be done if we’re willing to do what must be done.
re: #82 JasonA
“It would be horrible if X were true, so X cannot be true” is a very common but very dangerous tendency of human thought]
And yet this is the exact impetus behind every single fucking ‘Give Donald Trump A Chance’ screed I keep seeing. ‘He can’t possibly be that bad, so those promises he made on the trail can’t possibly be what he really wants to do’.
Repeating the same quote that keeps making the rounds: “When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.”
re: #83 William Lewis
That’s what they want.
We can’t win a “War”. We can resist. We can take all those Star Wars & WWII movie tropes and make people understand that we can be the underground and we can win in the long run.
It won’t be easy. It won’t be pretty. But it can be done if we’re willing to do what must be done.
That’s true too. I am just so disillusioned. Really thought we had this one.
It’s not that we lost though. It’s about what the loss means. So many hard fought gains that were fought for over generations are now in jeopardy.
re: #83 William Lewis
That’s what they want.
We can’t win a “War”. We can resist. We can take all those Star Wars & WWII movie tropes and make people understand that we can be the underground and we can win in the long run.
It won’t be easy. It won’t be pretty. But it can be done if we’re willing to do what must be done.
This is going to require people that are willing to listen. If this election showed anything, it’s that the number willing to listen is at a stark premium.
re: #87 HappyWarrior
It’s not that we lost though. It’s about what the loss means. So many hard fought gains that were fought for over generations are now in jeopardy.
Obama’s legacy is going to be literally erased in the first 100 days. Every bit of good he’s done is gone.
And then the Supreme Court picks come in. And we lose the country for 30 years.
re: #68 Dr Lizardo
More like the run-up to the Spanish Civil War. A deeply polarized society.
Except we let them in the front door rather than make them commit a crime in the form of a Coup d’état which complicates our resistance somewhat. Given that everything the Orange Talking Yam ever said was a lie, it is not insurmountable but still…
re: #82 JasonA
Strange Bedfellows indeed…
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I guess, at long last, Frum has met some actual Republicans rather than the ones he has fantasized about for years.
(Credit where due—I totally agree that the whole “let’s give him a chance—he might not be so bad after all” crap is exactly that.)
No honeymoon—directly from marriage to restraining order to annulment/divorce.
These stupid news pundits (and Michael Moore) can say it was about economics all they want. It wasn’t. I’m from the Midwest. They are racists and misogynists but will deny it passionately.
re: #86 HappyWarrior
That’s true too. I am just so disillusioned. Really thought we had this one.
The thing to do is move on from the fact that Trump won, and figure out what to do next. One thing to do is not let bigotry run off. Another thing to do is find ways to help Democrats run, even if you can’t yourself. The third thing to do is find any Democrats who do not normally participate in midterm elections, and tell them how vital it is to vote in 2018.
re: #89 Kryptik in Mourning
Obama’s legacy is going to be literally erased in the first 100 days. Every bit of good he’s done is gone.
And then the Supreme Court picks come in. And we lose the country for 30 years.
I know. I really thought this election was going to be a chance to usher in a new progressive era. Instead, we’re going to have to fight for that all over again. Poor Obama. The guy did so much good and it’s going to be eradicated.
@fMRI_guy Comparing the Berlin wall to Trump’s planned wall is the most retarded thing ever
— Hans (@bentalebfan123) November 12, 2016
Boy, what an interesting opinion you have.
Hey quick, tell me: which Twitter function rhymes with “mocked?” https://t.co/FF47B9XEXr— Jens Foell PhD (@fMRI_guy) November 12, 2016
re: #92 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
These stupid news pundits (and Michael Moore) can say it was about economics all they want. It wasn’t. I’m from the Midwest. They are racists and misogynists but will deny it passionately.
As many have said, “They weren’t yelling ‘Give us jobs!’ at Trump’s rallies, they were yelling ‘Build a wall!’”
re: #89 Kryptik in Mourning
Obama’s legacy is going to be literally erased in the first 100 days. Every bit of good he’s done is gone.
And then the Supreme Court picks come in. And we lose the country for 30 years.
And that is why I am finding it impossible to see any light at the end of the tunnel right now.
“A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma” stuffed in a xenophobe within a misogynist in a racist. Fixed, @CNN https://t.co/nc1Rqc00we
— Brian Switek (@Laelaps) November 12, 2016
re: #96 Timothy Watson
As many have said, “They weren’t yelling ‘Give us jobs!’ at Trump’s rallies, they were yelling ‘Build a wall!’”
And I kept saying that. These people were not chanting “We want Jobs”
% of Americans “proud” about election outcome, per Gallup
2008: 67%
2012: 48%
2016: 32%— Will Jordan (@williamjordann) November 12, 2016
Standard disclaimer about polls, of course…
re: #88 Kryptik in Mourning
This is going to require people that are willing to listen. If this election showed anything, it’s that the number willing to listen is at a stark premium.
It always has been.
There were far more members of the French Resistance in May 1945 than there were in June 1944 for a very real reason.
There will be very few people willing to Resist here and now (and many more willing to take credit afterwards!) but does that mean we do not resist? No, it simply means it will be harder than it should be.
One of the few things the far right freaks have right was that it was not a majority of the people living in the colonies that fought the American Revolutionary War (ARW). Most wanted peace and really didn’t care how it happened. They were the majority. Roughly the same minority as fought were loyalists. That’s about where we are at today.
They have mobilized.
Now it’s our turn.
On an up note. Yeah I know, there is nothing positive here. England, the country of Brexist, has signs outside their restaurants that say “Americans must be accompanied by an adult”
re: #96 Timothy Watson
As many have said, “They weren’t yelling ‘Give us jobs!’ at Trump’s rallies, they were yelling ‘Build a wall!’”
Exactly. I don’t want to hear it from Moore or Sanders that we’ll get to tehse people by giving them false hope on getting their jobs back. The industrial revolution is done. We’re in a post industrial period. I feel bad for people who lost their jobs due to jobs either moving other seas or automation but it happens. The coal mines were declining when my grandfather was a young man. That’s part of why he came down to Va because he saw the future was in all the construction projects that were happening.
re: #99 darthstar
The popular vote numbers in that image are the ones from election night 2016. They continue to go up and will do so until all the mail order and provisional ballots are counted.
As I pointed out earlier, we’re still counting here. Friday was a holiday so today is the last day that new ballots can come in via mail to the registrar’s office.
There are hundreds of thousands of ballots yet to count just here in San Diego alone.
re: #102 JasonA
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Do I sound like a condescending wingnut if I adopt the “If you don’t vote, you can’t complain” talking point?
the Royal Ontario Museum has such amazing lizard displays! 10/10 pic.twitter.com/CPUlixWVKV
— We Rate Lizards (@WeRateLizards) November 12, 2016
re: #99 darthstar
Dems getting dumber/more sociopathic? /
OK, y’all. Gettin’ close to the time to stop freaking. I’ve found a wonderful distraction from Trumpification—just started throwing a kidney stone. Got enough old drugs to get me to Monday doctor’s hours, so I’ll be distracted either way.
re: #102 JasonA
Standard disclaimer about polls, of course…
And there’s something we can take from that. Our job is to minimize damage for two years, and work on getting one of the chambers of Congress back. Then we concentrate on getting the presidency in 2020.
re: #110 Decatur Deb
OK, y’all. Gettin’ close to the time to stop freaking. I’ve found a wonderful distraction from Trumpification—just started throwing a kidney stone. Got enough old drugs to get me to Monday doctor’s hours, so I’ll be distracted either way.
Get better DD. Sorry to hear of your troubles.
re: #109 Nyet
Dems getting dumber/more sociopathic? /
More apathetic, maybe. You do know what sociopath means, right?
re: #110 Decatur Deb
OK, y’all. Gettin’ close to the time to stop freaking. I’ve found a wonderful distraction from Trumpification—just started throwing a kidney stone. Got enough old drugs to get me to Monday doctor’s hours, so I’ll be distracted either way.
I’m pitching in. I spent a dollar at the local Habitat ReStore.
/48” fluorescent tube
/now I gotta get the ladder
/is that why things seemed so dim?!?!
/{{{Deb}}}
re: #114 darthstar
More apathetic, maybe. You do know what sociopath means, right?
Yes we all know what it means. we have been watching Trump for over a year.
re: #111 Timothy Watson
Ouch, feel better.
Leonard Cohen dies, country in brainlock, and I’m gulping Fukitol. Couldn’t be better.
re: #62 BeachDem
That is one of the most frightening collection of mugshots I’ve ever seen.
That’s a nasty looking gang. I’m sure glad the law has caught up with them and…..
WHAT?
OH SHIT!
re: #117 Decatur Deb
Leonard Cohen dies, country in brainlock, and I’m gulping Fukitol. Couldn’t be better.
And me? I’m sticking car parts in an oven to see if I can detect a malfunction.
The problem is the Dem base just doesn’t seem to value the local elections as much as the Republican one. The Republican base will vote for a Republican for the smallest local office. So many of the people bellyaching about Hillary or before then Obama disappointing them ignored that they had local elections and issues that impact them just as much if not more than president.
re: #119 thedopefishlives
And me? I’m sticking car parts in an oven to see if I can detect a malfunction.
Zenith carb?
re: #119 thedopefishlives
And me? I’m sticking car parts in an oven to see if I can detect a malfunction.
A malfunction in the oven?
re: #114 darthstar
a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
Ayep. Fits.
re: #121 Decatur Deb
Zenith carb?
Ignition coil. Having an ignition misfire when the engine is hot that I was trying to chase down. So I pulled the coil out, baked it at 200 for 20 minutes, ran a resistance test on it and discovered it was testing out of spec. Problem component identified.
re: #124 thedopefishlives
Ignition coil. Having an ignition misfire when the engine is hot that I was trying to chase down. So I pulled the coil out, baked it at 200 for 20 minutes, ran a resistance test on it and discovered it was testing out of spec. Problem component identified.
How did it taste?
I am a fashion buyer and have to listen again to Cuban Americans talk shit about Mexican Americans. And white people tell me this is the dawning of a golden age!
re: #124 thedopefishlives
Ignition coil. Having an ignition misfire when the engine is hot that I was trying to chase down. So I pulled the coil out, baked it at 200 for 20 minutes, ran a resistance test on it and discovered it was testing out of spec. Problem component identified.
Should be good with a remoulade sauce.
Dear @Jack and @support your platform is garbage pic.twitter.com/uS3zkeBaay
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 12, 2016
re: #110 Decatur Deb
OK, y’all. Gettin’ close to the time to stop freaking. I’ve found a wonderful distraction from Trumpification—just started throwing a kidney stone. Got enough old drugs to get me to Monday doctor’s hours, so I’ll be distracted either way.
Augh. I really hope things get better there. Get well soon as possible.
re: #127 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
I am a fashion buyer and have to listen again to Cuban Americans talk shit about Mexican Americans. And white people tell me this is the dawning of a golden age!
Promise of a Golden Age, Reality of a Gilded Age.
Jesus, David.
IF YOU STOKE RACIST FEARS YOU ARE A RACIST
Here’s @davidaxelrod arguing that @realDonaldTrump is NOT a racist. Claims Trump just used racism. @johnlegend had to shut him down. pic.twitter.com/Vp8aFKkPXn
— Alan Kestrel (@AlanKestrel750) November 12, 2016
re: #109 Nyet
Dems getting dumber/more sociopathic? /
No.
I said over two years ago that I hoped Hillary would retire and not run. That there was just too much hate out here in the midwest (and elsewhere) for her to be able to win. That gut feeling was right however much I suppressed it after she declared. I voted for Bernie in the primary more out of a fantasy than anything and I shifted over to doing everything I could for her after that.
But I saw several Democrats I know vote for Trump because they really believe he is “less evil” than Hillary. It’s guns, it’s abortion, it’s the lies about corruption, but I hear them say “She just scares me. We can’t let her be president.” And that’s what matters to too many in the end.
Which is why we have to also educate.
Show why caring for our LGBT neighbor outweighs that fear.
Show how badly people will be hurt by wall street stealing the money from Medicare & Social Security.
And, yeah, playing the Anne Frank card on these motherfuckers.
re: #131 Kryptik in Mourning
Promise of a Golden Age, Reality of a Gilded Age.
But I need my job. But do I need it that badly?
sorry…nope…
This will prove to be a great time in the lives of ALL Americans. We will unite and we will win, win, win!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2016
Trump properties on the official .gov website https://t.co/EuYRHqcMHy pic.twitter.com/FTyOeozFXP
— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) November 11, 2016
re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth
sorry…nope…
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Here’s the thing: I want it to be true. I want Donald Trump to turn out to be a good President and to do good things for our country. But based on his words, I have little hope that this will be the case.
re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth
Saw a FB meme that said that not only will Trump’s rejecting the Presidential salary save us $400k a year, but because he owns so many golf courses, he’ll also save us at least that much in greens fees with how much Obama goes golfing. I wanted to slap a bitch for that one.
re: #106 freetoken
Well, if Hillary manages to squeeze out another six million votes that could mean something.
//
Seriously, though. Let’s say there’s another 200,000 votes in San Diego county - that’s a semi-red area. She’ll be lucky to net another 15,000 from that…and she won California by 20 points so it won’t make a difference electorally.
Six million is a lot. That’s 10% down from 2012. Six million isn’t caused by emailgate or Wikileaks. It isn’t caused by Joe Scarborough fellating Trump every morning for months on TV. Or Chuck Todd making snide Chuck Todd comments on his barely viewed daytime TV show. Six million is 1 in 10 Obama voters saying, “Fuck it, can’t be bothered”
Since climate change came up earlier, a post at yesterday’s Physics Today is relevant to what we’re experiencing:
Climate science’s long history matters—and so does the history of news reporting about it
The author delves into one of Revkin’s pieces at the NYT about the early history of global warming warnings in the literature. And the PT article adds to it.
[…]
By citing a blog posting from historian Cameron Muir of Canberra, Australia, Revkin introduced another reason climate-news-reporting history matters: because people connect with news articles. What Revkin called Muir’s “fascinating … sift for early news on greenhouse-driven global warming” begins this way:
I Tweeted a few snippets of digitised newspaper articles on the subject of fossil fuels, the atmosphere, and climate change. The earliest was from 1912, titled “Coal consumption affecting climate”. I collected them in preparation for a BBQ at which I knew there would be some older, country conservatives (not particularly partisan conservative, but fairly fixed views, and mistrustful of expertise on such matters). I knew there was a good chance of climate change coming up in conversation….
Telling the country conservatives about climate change, rattling off facts and figures, speaking about the long history of the development of climate science, or appealing to the authority of NASA, the Bureau of Meteorology, the CSIRO [Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation], and more, wasn’t going to help. Their experience and opinions trump those authorities, and they’re certainly not going to listen to me. In their view these are natural changes, or the science is too new, and variations of those.
So I thought I’d show them. Most people love history. A lot of people read popular histories. There are also a lot of people who don’t read much. For them, history is on TV, or in family photo albums, or at the local library. This was my audience at the BBQ. I figured the newspaper clippings would work well. They’re similar documents, or objects, and the way they look—with the extra small print and noisy reproduction—creates a stereotypical ‘historic’ aesthetic. They also appear more neutral than a government website, or a book by an academic. These are the publications of the people, the ordinary folk.
I could just show them on the iPad—have a look at this, isn’t this interesting, and so on. This avoided an argument. It seemed to open up possibilities for a conversation. These articles weren’t from left-wing, elitist, science conspirators, like the “bloody hopeless UN”, but respectable, late nineteenth and early twentieth century “Men of Science” theorising and experimenting on the relationship between atmospheric carbon and the earth’s temperature—a “greenhouse” or “blanket” effect.
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Well, good luck with that. Cameron Muir is in Australia and his “conservatives” may be more open to the “respectable, late nineteenth and early twentieth century “Men of Science” “.
But what brought Trump into power - no, I doubt they care much about those old “Men of Science”.
Yup.
Week before election: “bombshell FBI letter upends presidential race!”
Clinton loses: “campaign crazy to think FBI letter upended race!”— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) November 12, 2016
I wonder what the FBI will have to say about Trump’s 2020 opponent.
re: #138 thedopefishlives
Saw a FB meme that said that not only will Trump’s rejecting the Presidential salary save us $400k a year, but because he owns so many golf courses, he’ll also save us at least that much in greens fees with how much Obama goes golfing. I wanted to slap a bitch for that one.
ANd him spending so much time at Trump Tower instead of the White House will save us untold thousands in staffing wages!!!!!!
re: #139 darthstar
Well, if Hillary manages to squeeze out another six million votes that could mean something.
//Seriously, though. Let’s say there’s another 200,000 votes in San Diego county - that’s a semi-red area. She’ll be lucky to net another 15,000 from that…and she won California by 20 points so it won’t make a difference electorally.
Six million is a lot. That’s 10% down from 2012. Six million isn’t caused by emailgate or Wikileaks. It isn’t caused by Joe Scarborough fellating Trump every morning for months on TV. Or Chuck Todd making snide Chuck Todd comments on his barely viewed daytime TV show. Six million is 1 in 10 Obama voters saying, “Fuck it, can’t be bothered”
Six million votes is more like, “Eww, Hillary? I’d rather they both rot in Hell than cast a vote for either one.”
re: #105 HappyWarrior
Exactly. I don’t want to hear it from Moore or Sanders that we’ll get to tehse people by giving them false hope on getting their jobs back. The industrial revolution is done. We’re in a post industrial period. I feel bad for people who lost their jobs due to jobs either moving other seas or automation but it happens. The coal mines were declining when my grandfather was a young man. That’s part of why he came down to Va because he saw the future was in all the construction projects that were happening.
Since we’re in a music/arts thread, just a few references:
“The Day They Closed the Factory Down” was released in 1979.
“Allentown” was released in 1982
“Roger and Me” was released in 1989.
It’s like they’re waiting for Godot.
re: #133 William Lewis
I think what you’ve described supports my point. Any Dem supporting T over C is not right in the head.
re: #139 darthstar
Clinton’s carrying San Diego county by a healthy margin.
As of Friday there were over 4 million ballots in California yet to be tallied.
Still, yes, Clinton won’t reach Obama’s 2012 figure (though she will surpass Romney’s.) I’ve been pointing that out since Wednesday, and lamenting the suppressed turnout nationwide.
re: #137 thedopefishlives
Here’s the thing: I want it to be true. I want Donald Trump to turn out to be a good President and to do good things for our country. But based on his words, I have little hope that this will be the case.
Trump will do wonderful things for our electorate. When he is done millions of people will have a far clearer idea of the importance of civic involvement. Those that don’t die of treatable conditions, anyway.
re: #145 darthstar
You can continue to believe in the illusion that Trump voters have a conscience.
re: #139 darthstar
Well, if Hillary manages to squeeze out another six million votes that could mean something.
//Seriously, though. Let’s say there’s another 200,000 votes in San Diego county - that’s a semi-red area. She’ll be lucky to net another 15,000 from that…and she won California by 20 points so it won’t make a difference electorally.
Six million is a lot. That’s 10% down from 2012. Six million isn’t caused by emailgate or Wikileaks. It isn’t caused by Joe Scarborough fellating Trump every morning for months on TV. Or Chuck Todd making snide Chuck Todd comments on his barely viewed daytime TV show. Six million is 1 in 10 Obama voters saying, “Fuck it, can’t be bothered”
It’s not just those two liars. It’s all the liars who masquerade as journalists who repeat every lie that Frank Luntz ran by his focus groups.
re: #148 Decatur Deb
Trump will do wonderful things for our electorate. When he is done millions of people will have a far clearer idea of the importance of civic involvement. Those that don’t die of treatable conditions, anyway.
Considering I have a number of chronically ill friends and one of my brothers-in-law married a lovely black woman, this hits only slightly too close to home.
re: #149 Nyet
You can continue to believe in the illusion that Trump voters have a conscience.
Marry me.
re: #144 BeachDem
Since we’re in a music/arts thread, just a few references:
“The Day They Closed the Factory Down” was released in 1979.
“Allentown” was released in 1982
“Roger and Me” was released in 1989.It’s like they’re waiting for Godot.
Born In the USA (lp) 1984
“These jobs are going boy’s and they ain’t coming back to your hometown.
re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Again, *Trump* said this. He said it publicly. pic.twitter.com/BpDEGABxET
— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) November 12, 2016
re: #149 Nyet
You can continue to believe in the illusion that Trump voters have a conscience.
They do but they need Jiminy Cricket jumping on it like me on a Knucklehead’s kickstarter.
Nigel Farage, Trump’s biggest British supporter, jokingly warns him not to grope the U.K.’s female Prime Minister https://t.co/TpGGkOPilr pic.twitter.com/8eml1JtrOi
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) November 12, 2016
“Nah, she’s only a 4.” https://t.co/tbYsOUqNeg
— laura olin (@lauraolin) November 12, 2016
“Jokingly.”
re: #153 William Lewis
Born In the USA (lp) 1984
“These jobs are going boy’s and they ain’t coming back to your hometown.
In those days the Allentowns were losing jobs that had moved to depressed labor markets with native employees who had rudimentary workplace protections. Later they turned right around and moved away from Westpoint, Alabama. Just kept moving.
Just so people are aware… “Mexicans” were here before anyone! And Americans of Mexican descent, are going to save this country.
Sums up my mood.
everything is shit
— Filibuster Fanboy (@Johngcole) November 12, 2016
re: #159 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Just so people are aware… “Mexicans” were here before anyone! And Americans of Mexican descent, are going to save this country.
Not if they get deported first. And before you say ‘but they have actual citizenship’, how much of that is going to matter to the folks hardup on getting all ‘them immigrants the hell outta OUR country!!’?
re: #159 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Just so people are aware… “Mexicans” were here before anyone!
Tell it to the Apaches. And the Navajo. And so on. History is long.
re: #160 JasonA
Tiny bunny, enjoying a carrot. pic.twitter.com/EHc1ANN4
— Emergency Cute Stuff (@EmergencyPuppy) November 12, 2012
— Emergency Puppies (@EmergePuppies) August 15, 2014
If I read one more story about how “Mexicans must go” I’m going to get pissed. remember. their are a lot of democrats who own guns.
re: #163 Nyet
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re: #163 Nyet
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Okay, I feel like you’re telling me to step away from the keyboard and maybe go out and get some fresh air.
Message received.
I need to go grocery shopping anyway. Maybe I can have some real food today!
re: #158 Decatur Deb
In those days the Allentowns were losing jobs that had moved to depressed labor markets with native employees who had rudimentary workplace protections. Later they turned right around and moved away from Westpoint, Alabama.
I watched what happened when Uniroyal closed the tire factory and Armor’s was bought out and the union was busted in my hometown. 10 years after the latter I was a temp working for minimum wage as had been there long enough to be offered a permanent job at almost twice that pay (yes, post union. My grandfather made much more 30 years before) on the coming Monday. That Friday they closed the plant. Lockout.
By some stupid bit of luck the paper mills are still going and that kept the town from turning into dust and blowing away.
I know the pain these people feel. Been there, done that, sold the fucking t-shirt for a few pennies of food money. I wonder what will happen if they realized just how badly they’ve been fucked yet again.
re: #162 wrenchwench
Tell it to the Apaches. And the Navajo. And so on. History is long.
I know. But as long as I’m around, and for my nieces, All people who try to deport my nieces. Or any one else of Mexican decent will be introduced to my “Lucille”
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re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #162 wrenchwench
Tell it to the Apaches. And the Navajo. And so on. History is long.
Up here, tell the Ojibwa & the Lakota. They’ve been fighting over these forests since before there were any white folks here.
re: #143 thedopefishlives
Six million votes is more like, “Eww, Hillary? I’d rather they both rot in Hell than cast a vote for either one.”
That’s the point exactly.
And yet nobody challenged her in the primary except O’Malley who was ignored (because it was her turn) and Sanders who most people resent for doing as well as he did without a big blue D next to his name…fucking socialist democrat… Everyone was afraid of going up against the Clinton Machine. And now nobody wants to face the fact that that that might have been a major malfunction on the part of the party? It’s not like she can lose the race again.
Maybe the problem wasn’t Hillary at all and the Democrats just had a shitty GOTV effort. I read a few anecdotes from people who said GOTV events were poorly attended by those who bothered to sign up and that those who did weren’t exactly fired up or ready to go.
Maybe it’s wrong of me to wonder what the fuck went wrong at all since I didn’t support her in the primary so I’m just a fucking DINO. But I’d like someone to figure it out and be honest about it because if we let the GOP rub our noses in shit for the next two years they have a chance at getting to 60 in the Senate and won’t we be fucked then…
re: #168 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
I know. But as long as I’m around, and for my nieces, All people who try to deport my nieces. Or any one else of Mexican decent will be introduced to my “Lucille”
Good.
Whats going to happen to my nieces???
re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #168 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
I know. But as long as I’m around, and for my nieces, All people who try to deport my nieces. Or any one else of Mexican decent will be introduced to my “Lucille”
Don’t forget about those folks who aren’t of Mexican descent but will get mistaken for it anyway. Or the Muslims and those who will be mistaken for ‘Muslim’, the gays and those mistaken for gay, etc., etc.
I knew he was going to win yet I’m so scared For family members
but I’m so confused
re: #177 Kryptik in Mourning
Don’t forget about those folks who aren’t of Mexican descent but will get mistaken for it anyway. Or the Muslims and those who will be mistaken for ‘Muslim’, the gays and those mistaken for gay, etc., etc.
It doesn’t matter who they are—we’re only talking about priority on a list. And there will be lists. They promise.
Now radio is saying there is a major demonstration going on at MacArthur Park. So that makes 5 days here in Los Angeles…
re: #177 Kryptik in Mourning
Don’t forget about those folks who aren’t of Mexican descent but will get mistaken for it anyway. Or the Muslims and those who will be mistaken for ‘Muslim’, the gays and those mistaken for gay, etc., etc.
Trust me, I know. I have Gay, African American, Jewish, lots of women who gave birth to you boys, Mexican American in my family (who have been here longer than everyone else) I can’t go on…..but you know what I mean.
re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #173 darthstar
There was no “malfunction”. Hillary won fair and square. Get over it.
“Where’s my veto? I don’t want the Cheeto!” is a common chant. pic.twitter.com/eczeCsIFd2
— Eric Grant (@ericgrant) November 12, 2016
I saw someone from the 5th floor, where the Trump campaign office is, flipping off the thousands below. pic.twitter.com/uJyTLHtTzJ
— Eric Grant (@ericgrant) November 12, 2016
re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #149 Nyet
You can continue to believe in the illusion that Trump voters have a conscience.
Funny, Hillary said something similar about them and how did that work out for her?
And I’m not even talking about Trump voters(or defending them). Trump voters weren’t the problem. There were fewer of them than there were Hillary voters. And there were fewer of them than there were Romney voters. His numbers were the lowest in three cycles too.
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re: #178 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
I knew he was going to win yet I’m so scared For family members
but I’m so confused
Apparently one of our soon-to-be family members, who is an Asian-American and the daughter of refugees, touched off a major bout of family drama when she posted about why she’s afraid to go out in public post-election.
The moment @slate writer Seth Stephenson figured out Trump’s press game: pic.twitter.com/4dOiZEueNs
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) November 12, 2016
And the real question is why this wasn’t obvious to him from the start. It sure was to me. @JoyAnnReid https://t.co/MbF00z5JwK
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 12, 2016
re: #184 Nyet
There was no “malfunction”. Hillary won fair and square. Get over it.
Butbutbut PURITY PONIES!!!
re: #184 Nyet
There was no “malfunction”. Hillary won fair and square. Get over it.
I didn’t say her win wasn’t fair and square. I’m saying she was a shitty choice to get behind. But I’ve said that since December of last year when she scored her first 90 super delegates a month and a half before Iowa.
re: #192 darthstar
I didn’t say her win wasn’t fair and square. I’m saying she was a shitty choice to get behind. But I’ve said that since December of last year when she scored her first 90 super delegates a month and a half before Iowa.
Hill won the popular vote. And there was no way Bernie was going to win.
re: #176 William Lewis
I do not remember if your family is religious. Do you want prayer?
MrBWS and I are not, but we never discourage prayer.
So, thank you.
re: #187 darthstar
Funny, Hillary said something similar about them and how did that work out for her?
Thank God I’m not running for any office and can tell unvarnished truth.
And I’m not even talking about Trump voters(or defending them). Trump voters weren’t the problem. There were fewer of them than there were Hillary voters. And there were fewer of them than there were Romney voters. His numbers were the lowest in three cycles too.
The Dems who stayed at home because “Hillary” have no conscience too, I hope you understand it.
As to the private part: look who’s talking.
re: #193 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Hill won the popular vote. And there was no way Bernie was going to win.
They painted Hillary as a baby-eating satanist. What could the ratfuckers have made of a real Jewish Marxist?
re: #193 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Hill won the popular vote. And there was no way Bernie was going to win.
That’s why I wanted Biden to get into the race. Except he just lost his son and didn’t want to grieve and deal with Hillary at the same time.
Anyway, it’s all water under the bridge now. I think I’ll take a few days off and focus on work related things…was up at 3am today running load tests because I wanted to have an environment to myself - forgot it was Saturday.
See you all later.
re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
You and your family are in my prayers.
re: #192 darthstar
I didn’t say her win wasn’t fair and square. I’m saying she was a shitty choice to get behind. But I’ve said that since December of last year when she scored her first 90 super delegates a month and a half before Iowa.
That “shitty choice” still defeated your rainbow-defecating pseudosocialist coot tho. You’re free to call that a “malfunction”.
re: #197 Decatur Deb
They painted Hillary as a baby-eating satanist. What could the ratfuckers have made of a real Jewish Marxist?
Exactly. I loved Bernie, But once the Trump right wing got him in his crosshairs, it was all over. None of the boys and “Loyal” women of the right would ever vote for a SOCIALIST!
re: #169 KKR/7QD4NzkFkalJNNq2KFWBHp9NlaK/lrSQ+kFdRip6n91F7PwwtyimePEX7I3S Backwoods_Sleuth
re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #201 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Exactly. I loved Bernie, But once the Trump right wing got him in his crosshairs, it was all over. None of the boys and “Loyal” women of the right would ever vote for a SOCIALIST!
The idea that Bernie polled better against Trump ergo eh should have been nominated is insulting. Teh Democratic Party’s voters chose Hillary. Now, one is free to have preferred Bernie to Clinton but I draw the line where a lot of his supporters are going we should have nominated him because of the polls. And honestly I still think Bernie does not get a lot of stuff about our country’s electorate and I still believe that Clinton would have made a better president not just nomiene than him.
re: #204 HappyWarrior
The idea that Bernie polled better against Trump ergo eh should have been nominated is insulting. Teh Democratic Party’s voters chose Hillary. Now, one is free to have preferred Bernie to Clinton but I draw the line where a lot of his supporters are going we should have nominated him because of the polls. And honestly I still think Bernie does not get a lot of stuff about our country’s electorate and I still believe that Clinton would have made a better president not just nomiene than him.
Yes, you and I get this. Sadly, not enough of other people do.
re: #182 BeachDem
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re: #197 Decatur Deb
They painted Hillary as a baby-eating satanist. What could the ratfuckers have made of a real Jewish Marxist?
That’s the thing none of the BernieBro’s I know seem willing to get. She was _HATED_. But put up a Jewish Socialist who’s only got white rich college kids and old white hippies behind him? I’m sure that FOX is still sad he didn’t win the primary.
To be honest, and I know DS disagrees but if Bernie wanted to have become the nominee thus voice of the Democratic Party, he should have joined the party years ago rather than just caucusing with them and relying on them for re-election funds when he needed it. I am glad Bernie campaigned hard for Hillary this fall. I don’t begrudge him that but I did and I think a lot of Democrats had a hard time with wanting to make him the nominee after he had a history of doing so little to get other Democrats elected. You’re running for the president of the entire country, yes, but you’re also running to be your party’s voice and unofficial official leader and Bernie had never shown much of a desire to help the Democratic Party in the past. I saw Hillary campaign for Kerry, Obama, and many other Democrats over the years. Never saw Bernie doing that. And as I said, I still think he’s foolish about a lot of things. He believes that white blue collar voters will switch back to the Democrats as soon as we tell them what they want to hear, I don’t believe that. I think Bernie underestimates the resentments those peopel have to social liberalism.
Yes, I have been told my whole life “Just be pretty” “win a beauty pageant”
This is my answer: “Go fuck yourself”
Please let me know you will say this about Trump
re: #207 William Lewis
That’s the thing none of the BernieBro’s I know seem willing to get. She was _HATED_. But put up a Jewish Socialist who’s only got white rich college kids and old white hippies behind him? I’m sure that FOX is still sad he didn’t win the primary.
I can tell you this much, my wingnut friend doesn’t shut up about Bernie when he lost the primary, it would have been non stop red baiting on his timeline had Bernie won. Bernie is the candidate the GOP has been wanting to run against for years. He wouldn’t have won the popular vote or the EC vote either. Doesn’t make him a bad person but it does mean he would have been a poor nominee. Just because someone’s right on the issues doesn’t mean they’ll make a ogod President and I never saw much except “BERNIE WAS RIGHT” for arguments about why Bernie would make a good president which isn’t a logical argument.
For the issues alone, it’s why while I like Elizabeth Warren, I wasn’t 100% sold on her making a run or VP either. See, of course I want someone to be correct on the issues, that’s why I’ll vote for them for Congress but being executive is a different game. It”s more than just being right. There are easily about 25-50 Dems in Congress whose voting records are all something I’d consider ideal, maybe even more but are all 25-50 those people I think should be President or VP? No, not necessarily.
ok. I need to go work out.
You’re never cute. It’s why I make a great living being entertaining while you eat Ramen noodles 10/$1.00. @Green_Footballs @KurtSchlichter
— Yes, Nick $earcy! (@yesnicksearcy) November 12, 2016
.@yesnicksearcy @KurtSchlichter pic.twitter.com/SRJdErPmu1
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 12, 2016
re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg
The reality of the 2016 Election in one image:
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Look at Trumps numbers. How often have we talked about that reliably hard core conservative bloc that’s always around 27%??
Well there you have it. That’s all they needed to take control of America.
Those types will vote for a Republican if he literally pooped on them and said “That poop on you is Hillary Clinton’s fault.”
re: #215 Charles Johnson
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But I thought conservatives were BLACKLISTED in Hollywood. Nick needs to get over his creepy obsession with you. It’s really pathetic.
re: #208 HappyWarrior
To be honest, and I know DS disagrees but if Bernie wanted to have become the nominee thus voice of the Democratic Party, he should have joined the party years ago rather than just caucusing with them and relying on them for re-election funds when he needed it. I am glad Bernie campaigned hard for Hillary this fall. I don’t begrudge him that but I did and I think a lot of Democrats had a hard time with wanting to make him the nominee after he had a history of doing so little to get other Democrats elected. You’re running for the president of the entire country, yes, but you’re also running to be your party’s voice and unofficial official leader and Bernie had never shown much of a desire to help the Democratic Party in the past. I saw Hillary campaign for Kerry, Obama, and many other Democrats over the years. Never saw Bernie doing that. And as I said, I still think he’s foolish about a lot of things. He believes that white blue collar voters will switch back to the Democrats as soon as we tell them what they want to hear, I don’t believe that. I think Bernie underestimates the resentments those peopel have to social liberalism.
From a brief visit to kos (which has again become unreadable) I saw that Bernie has a NYT op-ed today or tomorrow about how the Democratic Party should go about re-organizing, restructuring. Thanks but no thanks, Bernie.
Can’t remember—is Bernie currently a Dem or and Ind?
re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg
The reality of the 2016 Election in one image:
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Look at Trumps numbers. How often have we talked about that reliably hard core conservative bloc that’s always around 27%??
Well there you have it. That’s all they needed to take control of America.
Its very easy to take control of America. Just cuss a lot, grab pussy, lie about everything flail your arms in public to make fun of other Americans. WIN!
re: #220 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Its very easy to take control of America. Just cuss a lot, grab pussy, lie about everything flail your arms in public to make fun of other Americans. WIN!
Shorter: Be an Asshole, Win America. America Deifies Assholes.
From Nate Silver’s tweets you can tell he’s feeling very defensive about getting his projections so terribly wrong.
re: #219 BeachDem
From a brief visit to kos (which has again become unreadable) I saw that Bernie has a NYT op-ed today or tomorrow about how the Democratic Party should go about re-organizing, restructuring. Thanks but no thanks, Bernie.
Can’t remember—is Bernie currently a Dem or and Ind?
That you have to ask is why it’s a problem. I think he is a Dem as of now but I had heard rumblings that he was thinking about going back to being an Indy. If he is doing that, then I honestly could care less about what he says about what direction our party should take. And honestly I am tired of his excuses for racism being voted as “people frustrated.” He did it after Brexit and he did it the day after Trump won here. Being in lily white Vermont has isolated him I’d argue much more than the Dem Party elites he and his base crap on.
Well I have been zipping around on the internet with my new (at least it is new to me) FiOS service. I am surprised how fast it is. I just downloaded a movie in less than five minutes.
re: #222 Charles Johnson
From Nate Silver’s tweets you can tell he’s feeling very defensive about getting his projections so terribly wrong.
He wasn’t the only one who got it horribly wrong. That’s why I hate overreliance on polls.
re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth
Great—deleted the comment—better safe than sorry.
re: #189 Charles Johnson
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This leaves me wondering how they’re going to handle the media from here on out.
Is he going to continue confining them? After all, now it’s SOP for him now.
re: #224 PhillyPretzel
Well I have been zipping around on the internet with my new (at least it is new to me) FiOS service. I am surprised how fast it is. I just downloaded a movie in less than five minutes.
I am tres happy for you (yes I’m bilingual) But that movie ends with “Fin” and Donald Trump being your President.
re: #220 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Its very easy to take control of America. Just cuss a lot, grab pussy, lie about everything flail your arms in public to make fun of other Americans. WIN!
I hated having to upding this, because it’s just so fucking sad but true.
This 3rd grade teacher taught her students a valuable lesson after the election pic.twitter.com/Takh8YwlL5
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) November 12, 2016
re: #229 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
What movie do you think I just downloaded?
“People are frustrated.” Yes, a lot of people who voted for Hillary were too. We’re frustrated that we or our friends and family have bigots attack us for not being white, we’re tired of being called “cucked betas” by sexist dickheads, we’re tired of seeing our Hispanic and Muslim friends told they need to go back, and we’re tired of our LGBT friends being scapegoated by people like VP Elect Pence. Oh and some of us have hard times finding work too. And hell when we suggest we need better wages, we’re mocked and told that we shouldn’t get that much for flipping burgers.
re: #228 makeitstop
This leaves me wondering how they’re going to handle the media from here on out.
Is he going to continue confining them? After all, now it’s SOP for him now.
Go to @kfile feed - he’s covering that now
Take what Trump’s lawyer said to the @thedailybeast when they wrote a story based on divorce records. This person now advises the president. pic.twitter.com/tXW8ZIGuxp
— andrew kaczynski (@KFILE) November 12, 2016
re: #222 Charles Johnson
From Nate Silver’s tweets you can tell he’s feeling very defensive about getting his projections so terribly wrong.
In what way was he terribly wrong? In fact, he was the best of all poll analysts.
re: #233 HappyWarrior
“People are frustrated.” Yes, a lot of people who voted for Hillary were too. We’re frustrated that we or our friends and family have bigots attack us for not being white, we’re tired of being called “cucked betas” by sexist dickheads, we’re tired of seeing our Hispanic and Muslim friends told they need to go back, and we’re tired of our LGBT friends being scapegoated by people like VP Elect Pence. Oh and some of us have hard times finding work too. And hell when we suggest we need better wages, we’re mocked and told that we shouldn’t get that much for flipping burgers.
But we’re not the ‘White Working Class’ therefore our concerns aren’t ‘real’ concerns, our wages aren’t ‘real’ wages, our outrages aren’t ‘real’ outrages, and we’re not ‘real’ Americans. That’s exactly what the lesson they keep trying to sell us is.
All of this stuff about how Hillary was a lousy candidate, and whether Bernie would have been able to win, makes me think, “Gosh, if only the Democrats had chosen someone other than Al Gore in 2000. Just think how different the world would be now!”
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Counterfactuals are stupid, because under different circumstances, different things happen.
Bernie always looked better than Hillary against Trump, because Hillary never had to unleash his oppo file. Think the GOP didn’t have a similar file on Bernie? We don’t know what’s in it, and we don’t know how people would respond to it. Therefore we have no idea what the result would be.
Counterfactuals are basically jerking off, but without the release at the end. On the plus side, you don’t have to clean up after.
re: #223 HappyWarrior
That you have to ask is why it’s a problem. I think he is a Dem as of now but I had heard rumblings that he was thinking about going back to being an Indy. If he is doing that, then I honestly could care less about what he says about what direction our party should take. And honestly I am tired of his excuses for racism being voted as “people frustrated.” He did it after Brexit and he did it the day after Trump won here. Being in lily white Vermont has isolated him I’d argue much more than the Dem Party elites he and his base crap on.
If he stays with the Democrats, I can respect him somewhat. If he bolts, fuck him with a republican spear.
He is a classic example of the proverbial “if all you have is a hammer” as he talks about economics. What he says is true & even important BUT IT”S NOT THE ONLY FUCKING THING. And that’s what he’s never understood.
I am a member of the DSA. I am harder left in my economics than 99% of the people here on LGF. Bernie is often too conservative. BUT…
I like him as a person. I agree with him quite often. I voted for him in the Wisconsin primary even though I’d already begun working for Hillary. But in the end? I’ve said this over and over - white college kids & old white idiot hippies will not win the presidency.
I don’t give a fuck about purity. I want progress, even if a millimeter at a time. Keep moving forward so my great grand children have the life I wanted for my son.
re: #232 PhillyPretzel
What movie do you think I just downloaded?
I don’t know. I hope its good. I will bring buffalo wings and watch it with you. If I said something wrong, it doesn’t surprise me.
re: #223 HappyWarrior
That you have to ask is why it’s a problem. I think he is a Dem as of now but I had heard rumblings that he was thinking about going back to being an Indy. If he is doing that, then I honestly could care less about what he says about what direction our party should take. And honestly I am tired of his excuses for racism being voted as “people frustrated.” He did it after Brexit and he did it the day after Trump won here. Being in lily white Vermont has isolated him I’d argue much more than the Dem Party elites he and his base crap on.
Every comment I’ve seen from Bernie since the election has included some form of “Trump is right about” something, followed by a very serious admonition that we must not tolerate any racist or discriminatory acts.
Nope—I’m in total “false in one, false in all” state—I won’t credit Trump with anything positive, because he’s a total liar and because he is a 100% shitshow asshole.
Where you had nitwits like Wang giving Trump 1%, Silver gave him ~30%, as followed from the (pretty flawed) polls. And note that the end result does not affect the prior probability. It doesn’t become 100% upon win.
re: #239 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Sense and Sensibility - Emma Thompson version.
I guess this video is a big thing on Facebook. It from a British political satirist named Jonathan Pie. He takes the left apart for the Trump win. Some good points, some seem after the fact, some also could go both ways.
Comments?
Contains a lot of f-bombs and such, keep the sound down if around the kids, at work, etc.
Marry me, Philly Pretzel
re: #238 William Lewis
If he stays with the Democrats, I can respect him somewhat. If he bolts, fuck him with a republican spear.
He is a classic example of the proverbial “if all you have is a hammer” as he talks about economics. What he says is true & even important BUT IT”S NOT THE ONLY FUCKING THING. And that’s what he’s never understood.
I am a member of the DSA. I am harder left in my economics than 99% of the people here on LGF. Bernie is often too conservative. BUT…
I like him as a person. I agree with him quite often. I voted for him in the Wisconsin primary even though I’d already begun working for Hillary. But in the end? I’ve said this over and over - white college kids & old white idiot hippies will not win the presidency.
I don’t give a fuck about purity. I want progress, even if a millimeter at a time. Keep moving forward so my great grand children have the life I wanted for my son.
More people need your maturity and wisdom. One can be hard left but also pragmatic too. I’m probably more far left than most of the country but I’m also a pragmatist too.
Yeah, I’m just asking all decent men to marry moi.
re: #241 Nyet
Where you had nitwits like Wang giving Trump 1%, Silver gave him ~30%, as followed from the (pretty flawed) polls. And note that the end result does not affect the prior probability. It doesn’t become 100% upon win.
A number of forecasters, but especially Silver, pointed out that an error in the polling changed the EV map. There was an error. It changed the map.
re: #242 PhillyPretzel
Sense and Sensibility - Emma Thompson version.
Nope, that’s not it. I’m going to say “Young Frankenstein.”
re: #246 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite
Excuse me but I am a female. I will be friendly but I still think that men are okay once they are house broken.
re: #240 BeachDem
Every comment I’ve seen from Bernie since the election has included some form of “Trump is right about” something, followed by a very serious admonition that we must not tolerate any racist or discriminatory acts.
Nope—I’m in total “false in one, false in all” state—I won’t credit Trump with anything positive, because he’s a total liar and because he is a 100% shitshow asshole.
If Bernie had been the nominee and lost, and Hillary started praising Trump the way he has, they’d be pissed. Bernie gets a pass when he acts like a politician from them. When Hillary did, it was OMG ESTABLIOSHMETN SELL OUT!
re: #251 PhillyPretzel
Excuse me but I am a female. I will be friendly but I still think that men are okay once they are house broken.
And even then, we have in innate drive to pee on the bushes.
Results like 45-55% (Silver on Florida) do not translate well into a binary “will win/lose”. One could criticize Silver for that, because he does assign states based on what is basically a coin toss. But when one looks at the underlying percentages, Silver’s uncertainties were spot on for the most part. When you only have 55% chance of winning a state, you shouldn’t get cocky…
re: #236 Kryptik in Mourning
But we’re not the ‘White Working Class’ therefore our concerns aren’t ‘real’ concerns, our wages aren’t ‘real’ wages, our outrages aren’t ‘real’ outrages, and we’re not ‘real’ Americans. That’s exactly what the lesson they keep trying to sell us is.
Exactly. I’m tired of the white working class being treated like they’re special snow flakes whose concerns mean more than the rest of us. As I said earlier, I really do sympathize with those who have lost their jobs due to outsourcing and automation but it does happen. I get when you’ve been a coal miner your whole life and you’re scared that you may have to learn a new job in the middle of your life. I get that. But I will not forgive or condone people who ignored Trump’s bigotry and ignored our concerns too.
re: #251 PhillyPretzel
Excuse me but I am a female. I will be friendly but I still think that men are okay once they are house broken.
Good luck with the housebroken thing. We are lucky that there are so many men in our country who believe in us. They make me happy.
re: #240 BeachDem
Every comment I’ve seen from Bernie since the election has included some form of “Trump is right about” something, followed by a very serious admonition that we must not tolerate any racist or discriminatory acts.
Nope—I’m in total “false in one, false in all” state—I won’t credit Trump with anything positive, because he’s a total liar and because he is a 100% shitshow asshole.
Here’s how I look at it - to the extent that the Democrats work with Trump on something like the infrastructure bill he’s proposing, they both help the country, and divide him from the GOP.
re: #235 Nyet
In what way was he terribly wrong? In fact, he was the best of all poll analysts.
They were all wrong, Silver slightly less wrong than others, but he was still showing Clinton with a 70%+ chance of winning right up until she lost.
But my point is that he’s not taking it very well.
I’m certainly not going to put much trust in this kind of poll analysis in the future, unless there are major changes in the way polls are compiled. I don’t know what changes are needed — I’m no statistician — but one of the big lessons from this election is how badly the pollsters fumbled.
re: #255 HappyWarrior
Exactly. I’m tired of the white working class being treated like they’re special snow flakes whose concerns mean more than the rest of us. As I said earlier, I really do sympathize with those who have lost their jobs due to outsourcing and automation but it does happen. I get when you’ve been a coal miner your whole life and you’re scared that you may have to learn a new job in the middle of your life. I get that. But I will not forgive or condone people who ignored Trump’s bigotry and ignored our concerns too.
It’s not even that they’re treated like special snow flakes. They’re treated like the only snowflakes. They’re treated and defied as the only America that matters. Constantly, utterly, repeatedly, and then the rest of us are chided and browbeaten for ignoring them and treating them like afterthoughts, when they suck up all the goddamn oxygen in the room. Having to share concerns with other parts of America is not fucking being an afterthought. To paraphrase Jon Stewart, they’re mistaken not being treated like the only thing that matters for tyranny.
re: #260 Kryptik in Mourning
It’s not even that they’re treated like special snow flakes. They’re treated like the only snowflakes. They’re treated and defied as the only America that matters. Constantly, utterly, repeatedly, and then the rest of us are chided and browbeaten for ignoring them and treating them like afterthoughts, when they suck up all the goddamn oxygen in the room. Having to share concerns with other parts of America is not fucking being an afterthought. To paraphrase Jon Stewart, they’re mistaken not being treated like the only thing that matters for tyranny.
Well said.
re: #259 Charles Johnson
They were all wrong, Silver slightly less wrong that others, but he was still showing Clinton with a 70%+ chance of winning right up until she lost.
But my point is that he’s not taking it very well.
I’m certainly not going to put much trust in this kind of poll analysis in the future, unless there are major changes in the way polls are compiled. I don’t know what changes are needed — I’m no statistician — but one of the big lessons from this election is how badly the pollsters fumbled.
Every ‘Never Fails!’ predictor works perfectly until it doesn’t.
re: #251 PhillyPretzel
Excuse me but I am a female. I will be friendly but I still think that men are okay once they are house broken.
I’ve never been quite sure we can be… O_o
Will some Trumper explain to me why, even in victory, so many of you remain nasty bullies? You won. What else do you want?
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) November 12, 2016
re: #258 Blind Frog Belly White
Here’s how I look at it - to the extent that the Democrats work with Trump on something like the infrastructure bill he’s proposing, they both help the country, and divide him from the GOP.
It all depends on HOW he’s going to work on infrastructure. If past is prologue, I do not have good feelings about who will benefit and how the integrity of the projects will be maintained.
I just don’t want the Dems to immediately reach out conciliatory hands as we always do, and then get them cut off at the wrists with a chainsaw.
re: #265 Charles Johnson
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Well Trump was the one talking about how he’d win NY………… And I don’t think you were saying NY was a turning point anyhow. Just that it was 29 more EVs for her. I noted Indiana and Kentucky going for Trump which were going to him regardless.
Will some Trumper explain to me why, even in victory, so many of you remain nasty bullies? You won. What else do you want?
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) November 12, 2016
@kurteichenwald This is who they are, and who they’ve always been. They’re not going to change. They CAN’T change. They’re horrible people by nature. https://t.co/HtoWaqshAv
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 12, 2016
I’m going to enjoy all these right wing assholes who have second guessed everything POTUS has done the past eight years have to squirm to defend Trump’s actions. That’s what I will enjoy. I’m going to find some perverse enjoyment in seeing Alex Jones actually have to defend the WHite House.
If Kellyanne is doing all these interviews, who is running the Dark Star?
re: #32 Joe Bacon
Gosh, even though all these Pulpit Pimps laid their hands on God’s Anointed Leader?
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Why didn’t Trump burst into flames if those people are representatives of God?
Or perhaps it’s that they all work for the Other Guy?
@kurteichenwald If you take Trump himself as an example, he gets even nastier when he wins. It’s not enough to win. He has to dominate and humiliate.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 12, 2016
re: #266 jaunte
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Ask the average NSDAP voter what else he wanted in 1933 if you really don’t know…
(would someone please tweet him that and my resist meme? I am not ready to use that enemy crap…)
Met several voters like this - who felt Trump was sincere about stances they liked, just campaigning about the rest. https://t.co/cWBHvjv7gE pic.twitter.com/4Up5JWCNZ1
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 12, 2016
“Trump wouldn’t hurt me or my family. Just the other people, you know the ones.”
re: #271 makeitstop
In other news…
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Oh, sweet lord please protect that real Hero Of The Soviet Union. No matter how evil they were, the people deserved better & this hero’s paint job points it out. Amen.
re: #259 Charles Johnson
They were all wrong, Silver slightly less wrong that others, but he was still showing Clinton with a 70%+ chance of winning right up until she lost.
And it cannot be shown that she did not have 70% chance of winning.
Note that her 70% chance (if it’s correctly calculated) is not erased by Trump’s win. 30% chance means Silver predicted that Trump could realistically win, and he did. A candidate doesn’t need over 50% to win.
The probability distributions in poll-based predictions mean only one thing: it’s a percentage of simulations in which the candidate wins. The variation/uncertainty in the simulations is based on the polls’ margin of error, or more specifically, on various permutations of the poll results with various margins of error. (There are of course several other factors.)
The margins of error of these polls were such, that Trump won somewhere between 1/3 to 1/4 simulations, meaning the polls did not predict a clear Hillary victory.
Both Trump’s and Hillary’s victories (and losses) are baked in in Silver’s results. Strictly speaking, the same is true for Wang et al. But there is a clear difference between their estimates of the polls’ uncertainty.
re: #276 jaunte
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“Trump wouldn’t hurt me or my family. Just the other people, you know the ones.”
Yes, he sure showed Washington when he brought Gingrich as part of his transition team. These people infuriate me. Oh, they claim to love Trump because they think he’s sincere but then when it’s something that they like, they hope he’s not serious. I’m out of damns to give to people like this. Maybe they don’t deserve to suffer but they’re the ones who need a good kick in the ass not Washingotn.
This will go down as an all-timer from the New Yorker pic.twitter.com/qRHEahzOIq
— James Gordon (@James_J_Gordon) November 9, 2016
re: #61 Kryptik in Mourning
It’s information disease on a massive scale.
re: #276 jaunte
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“Trump wouldn’t hurt me or my family. Just the other people, you know the ones.”
And how many of these twitwits took every single negative thing said about Hillary and her platform at face value and treated her like the living sin of all things? How many people said ‘oh, she’ll do these good things, and the bad things I hear about here, I’m sure they’re not true’? Why was Trump, a man who echoed the darkest sentiments of our society loud and proud, given the benefit of being an honest person underneath it all and not Hillary, who proclaimed ‘Stronger Together’?
Fuck this shit. Fuck all this shit, fuck you fucking naive fucking shitwits. I give up on you. I give up on fucking all of you,
re: #260 Kryptik in Mourning
It’s not even that they’re treated like special snow flakes. They’re treated like the only snowflakes. They’re treated and defied as the only America that matters. Constantly, utterly, repeatedly, and then the rest of us are chided and browbeaten for ignoring them and treating them like afterthoughts, when they suck up all the goddamn oxygen in the room. Having to share concerns with other parts of America is not fucking being an afterthought. To paraphrase Jon Stewart, they’re mistaken not being treated like the only thing that matters for tyranny.
The simple hard truth of the matter is that white working class support for a safety net and progressive economic policies nose-dived when it became clear that these policies would also benefit people of color.
So I have to say I really hope these Trump supporters get reamed good and hard by the Republican overlords they love so much. That seems to be the only way they’ll get some much-needed clues.
Say your chance of winning in a lottery is 1/1000000000 if you buy 1 ticket.
If you win it doesn’t mean you had a greater chance than anyone else.
re: #266 jaunte
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they want to be able to get away with exactly what they are doing without fear of backlash.
they are all in Shad Ladue mode now.
re: #282 Kryptik in Mourning
And how many of these twitwits took every single negative thing said about Hillary and her platform at face value and treated her like the living sin of all things? How many people said ‘oh, she’ll do these good things, and the bad things I hear about here, I’m sure they’re not true’? Why was Trump, a man who echoed the darkest sentiments of our society loud and proud, given the benefit of being an honest person underneath it all and not Hillary, who proclaimed ‘Stronger Together’?
Fuck this shit. Fuck all this shit, fuck you fucking naive fucking shitwits. I give up on you. I give up on fucking all of you,
Yes.
I hate saying it but it disillusions me about the whole democratic process if people are going to be that stupid.
Haha, this is very apt.
A—There’s a 30% chance of an earthquake
B—LOL ur crazy no way it’s that high
{{earthquake}}
B—Idiot! You said a 70% chance of no earthquake— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 12, 2016
re: #285 Nyet
Say your chance of winning in a lottery is 1/1000000000 if you buy 1 ticket.
If you win it doesn’t mean you had a greater chance than anyone else.
Yep.
I buy a ticket every 3 or 4 months, just because. I don’t fool myself about the odds and that’s why I only ever buy one at a time. If I hit the magic moment and win? I’m probably more fucked than I ever was before anyway so “cheers!”.
re: #283 William Lewis
Fuck the bullshit.
I NEED this.
(Crank this. It needs to be as loud as you speakers can handle. Make your neighbors call the cops. It needs to be to real to feel… )
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It’s in vogue to hate on it now I feel like, but I still love the Unplugged performance by 10,000 Maniacs, if only for the instrumentation.
re: #291 Kryptik in Mourning
It’s in vogue to hate on it now I feel like, but I still love the Unplugged performance by 10,000 Maniacs, if only for the instrumentation.
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I always liked that song and version.
re: #276 jaunte
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“Trump wouldn’t hurt me or my family. Just the other people, you know the ones.”
She’s gonna get a shock when her little snowflake loses coverage!
re: #288 HappyWarrior
I hate saying it but it disillusions me about the whole democratic process if people are going to be that stupid.
I think there’s a non-trivial chance that this is exactly how US democracy fails. If enough of the electorate disengages from reality and just believes what they want to believe, that’s it.
re: #291 Kryptik in Mourning
It’s in vogue to hate on it now I feel like, but I still love the Unplugged performance by 10,000 Maniacs, if only for the instrumentation.
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Until the one I posted came out, that was my favorite version. My ex and I had that as an instrumental as the recessional at our wedding. There is a part of me that if I have the chance might just ask my priest for the same at my funeral ;)
re: #285 Nyet
Say your chance of winning in a lottery is 1/1000000000 if you buy 1 ticket.
If you win it doesn’t mean you had a greater chance than anyone else.
I had to explain to my Mother-in-law several times that playing the same numbers in lotto does not incrementally increase their likelihood of winning each time they lose.
People don’t really get probability.
welp…
As John the Baptist did with Herod, we must oft remind Prez @realDonaldTrump, @MELANIATRUMP is not your lawful wife. pic.twitter.com/NBOKhub1kP
— Westboro Baptist (@WBCSaysRepent) November 12, 2016
re: #289 Nyet
Garbage in, garbage out. That’s not Nate’s fault. Though he is being a bit of a prick about it, in my opinion.
re: #139 darthstar
Well, if Hillary manages to squeeze out another six million votes that could mean something.
//Seriously, though. Let’s say there’s another 200,000 votes in San Diego county - that’s a semi-red area. She’ll be lucky to net another 15,000 from that…and she won California by 20 points so it won’t make a difference electorally.
Six million is a lot. That’s 10% down from 2012. Six million isn’t caused by emailgate or Wikileaks. It isn’t caused by Joe Scarborough fellating Trump every morning for months on TV. Or Chuck Todd making snide Chuck Todd comments on his barely viewed daytime TV show. Six million is 1 in 10 Obama voters saying, “Fuck it, can’t be bothered”
There are over 4 million votes still waiting to be counted in California.
re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth
welp…
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Heh. There is a certain level of honor in their consistency. Not much mind you, but some. Me? I’d rather teach them the good news but it’s hardest to teach unrepentant heretics than anyone else.
re: #276 jaunte
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“Trump wouldn’t hurt me or my family. Just the other people, you know the ones.”
The common clay of the new west, you know…
It’s weird having the entire national media work almost hand in hand with the Russian FSB, Wikileaks, James Comey and the FBI to undermine our democracy and seeing glib shit-witted Bernie Bros dismiss it all as immaterial because Clinton didn’t excite them. All while Clinton’s popular vote lead continues to grow and grow.
re: #298 philosophus invidius
Had he been not attacked on a partisan basis before the election and by people who don’t understand what his numbers mean after the election, I would have agreed.
If someone accuses, say, a climate scientist of dishonesty because they don’t like what is being said, I’d say the scientist would also have a right to be angry. Etc. This “Silver unskewed the polls” thing was somewhat analogous to the ClimateGate accusations.
re: #276 jaunte
“Trump wouldn’t hurt me or my family. Just the other people, you know the ones.”
“You know, those people.”
re: #303 goddamnedfrank
It’s weird having the entire national media work almost hand in hand with the Russian FSB, Wikileaks, James Comey and the FBI to undermine our democracy and seeing glib shit-witted Bernie Bros dismiss it all as immaterial because Clinton didn’t excite them. All while Clinton’s popular vote lead continues to grow and grow.
The EV really is a joke. One man, one vote. I’m seeing the argument being made that the EV exists because of the fact that Democrats are more concentrated in few counties while the Republicans have more votes in smaller but more counties overall. Uh no. My vote and your vote should count exactly the same as someone in a small remote part of Idaho. There’s a reason why other countries don’t have the EC.
re: #307 HappyWarrior
The EV really is a joke. One man, one vote. I’m seeing the argument being made that the EV exists because of the fact that Democrats are more concentrated in few counties while the Republicans have more votes in smaller but more counties overall. Uh no. My vote and your vote should count exactly the same as someone in a small remote part of Idaho. There’s a reason why other countries don’t have the EC.
Spoken like a true coastal elite.
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Say there are 10000 lottery tickets and you buy 7000 of them.
You have a 70% chance of winning the lottery. Pretty good! The rest of the tickets have 30%.
And if the rest of the tickets are bought individually, each person still has a 1/10000, i.e. 0.01% chance. 70% v. 0.01%. Wow. It is certainly rational to bet on you rather than any other individual player.
There, I have just made a “prediction” of sorts, though it is really not - it’s simply calculating the probabilities as they are.
Now say you with your 70% don’t win, but rather some Joe Schmoe with his 0.01% does. Which, if you think about it, is not that surprising, because the rest of the tickets had 30% winning chance and that’s not a bad chance.
Does that mean that I was wrong in my calculations? Nope.
re: #244 ObserverArt
I guess this video is a big thing on Facebook. It from a British political satirist named Jonathan Pie. He takes the left apart for the Trump win. Some good points, some seem after the fact, some also could go both ways.
“Jonathan Pie” is a fictional character. The man portraying him is a Russia Today employee.
re: #308 BeachDem
Spoken like a true coastal elite.
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I like AM but I swear he’s been acting like he’s the only guy in a red area of a red state. You are too as Klys pointed out last night. I keep on telling him. The way Democrats are going to be successful in your region isn’t through the DNC. It will be through people like him who convince his Republican neighbors that we’re not all elites out to get them. It was about as far as elitist as you could be but as I told Klys, alas we tried.
Charming:
According the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Mairah Teli, 24, a language arts teacher at Dacula High in Gwinnett County, discovered the note in her classroom on Friday.
Opening it up it she found it contained two crudely drawn American flags and the message: “Your headscarf isn’t allowed anymore. Why don’t you tie it around your neck and hang yourself with it off of your neck instead of your head.”
The note was signed, “America!”
re: #184 Nyet
There was no “malfunction”. Hillary won fair and square. Get over it.
In some minds that is going to be a truth no matter how much it is not.
Also, I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but I certainly didn’t resent Bernie not being a Democrat. That is too harsh a word.
Are we not allowed to be concerned that not being a Democrat signals that he isn’t a team player? Is that our fault or a fault of Bernie?
And if there was concern that the GOTV campaign wasn’t strong enough, how strong would it have been should Bernie have been the candidate? Are people in the party going to be real happy to support someone that isn’t really one of them (as in being a party member)? Sort of makes everyone a suspicious of the guy.
How are all the other politicians in the party supposed to feel about a guy that is stubborn and places himself as an independent in politics? Maybe it is just me, but that seems arrogant. He was saying “I want Democrats to buy in, support me…but I never bought it, and my support was selective because I could be.”
Sorry, people can like Bernie all they want, but that doesn’t mean you can gloss over something as basic as a guy wanting to represent a party when he needs it instead of being there all the time. when he may have been needed.
re: #312 BeachDem
Charming:
According the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Mairah Teli, 24, a language arts teacher at Dacula High in Gwinnett County, discovered the note in her classroom on Friday.
Opening it up it she found it contained two crudely drawn American flags and the message: “Your headscarf isn’t allowed anymore. Why don’t you tie it around your neck and hang yourself with it off of your neck instead of your head.”
The note was signed, “America!”
Yeah but I should be furious about people protesting the election shouldn’t I? My goddamn wingnut friend is busy whining about people exercising their first amendment rights and no word about the supporters of a candidate he claims he hates intimidating people.
re: #303 goddamnedfrank
It’s weird having the entire national media work almost hand in hand with the Russian FSB, Wikileaks, James Comey and the FBI to undermine our democracy and seeing glib shit-witted Bernie Bros dismiss it all as immaterial because Clinton didn’t excite them. All while Clinton’s popular vote lead continues to grow and grow.
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Council.
re: #312 BeachDem
Charming:
According the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Mairah Teli, 24, a language arts teacher at Dacula High in Gwinnett County, discovered the note in her classroom on Friday.
Opening it up it she found it contained two crudely drawn American flags and the message: “Your headscarf isn’t allowed anymore. Why don’t you tie it around your neck and hang yourself with it off of your neck instead of your head.”
The note was signed, “America!”
That’s particularly cruel when aimed at a Language Arts teacher.
re: #310 Lancelot Link
“Jonathan Pie” is a fictional character. The man portraying him is a Russia Today employee.
Well, thanks for that! I never had heard of him until I stumbled upon the video and it carried some info about him.
Got any more info or links on him. I’m going to do some searching…I find stuff like this interesting, especially in light of this election.
re: #266 jaunte
What do they want, Kurt? They want to hear us scream as we are crushed under their horse’s hooves.
Barbarians are like that.
re: #301 William Lewis
Actually I like learning. I regard it as one of the characteristics that makes me a heretic.
True Believers rarely change their minds.
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