Real Bad News Gets Worse: An Antisemitic White Nationalist Will Be President Trump’s “Chief Strategist”

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The haunted house ride of this election just got even scarier. Donald Trump has appointed an unapologetic antisemite and white nationalist as his “chief strategist and senior counselor.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:02:06pm

Basically Bannon is going to be Trump’s media guy. More low key than being chief of staff but still in a position to have his bigoted bullshit poison a lot.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:04:29pm

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:05:21pm

Omg. when I said “Kill me” I had Bannons face in my cross hairs.

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:05:31pm

Okay, reposted video from downstairs:

M.A.M.O.N. - Latinos VS. Donald Trump

Now back to regular discussion…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:06:29pm
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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:08:13pm

People posting this bullshit:

Facebook Post

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:08:20pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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“A Kinder Gentler Shade of White Nationalism”

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:08:41pm

I just heard an interview with “race realist” (racist) Richard Spencer and his thoughts that the Trump election is a paradigm shift for his movement. Wonder what gave him that idea? The program is “Reveal”; I’m sure you can listen if you feel like vomiting. The interviewer asked him how his movement (he’s the one getting funding from William Regnery to build a “think tank” in DC) was different ultimately from the goals of the KKK and he was stumped for a moment to find any difference.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:08:53pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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David Duke without the baggage just as Steve Scalise promised to be. The GOP is no different than the BNP, UKIP, FN, Jobbik, and so many other Eurofascist parties I’m missing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:09:27pm

re: #6 electrotek

People posting this bullshit:

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I’m sick of patronizing bullshit like this.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:09:36pm

But but but Charles, I just saw this Facebook meme!

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:09:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:10:39pm

re: #8 Barefoot Grin

I just heard an interview with “race realist” (racist) Richard Spencer and his thoughts that the Trump election is a paradigm shift for his movement. Wonder what gave him that idea? The program is “Reveal”; I’m sure you can listen if you feel like vomiting. The interviewer asked him how his movement (he’s the one getting funding from William Regnery to build a “think tank” in DC) was different ultimately from the goals of the KKK and he was stumped for a moment to find any difference.

WE’re bassically seeing what would have happened if Wallace had won in 68.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:10:51pm

re: #8 Barefoot Grin

I just heard an interview with “race realist” (racist) Richard Spencer and his thoughts that the Trump election is a paradigm shift for his movement. Wonder what gave him that idea? The program is “Reveal”; I’m sure you can listen if you feel like vomiting. The interviewer asked him how his movement (he’s the one getting funding from William Regnery to build a “think tank” in DC) was different ultimately from the goals of the KKK and he was stumped for a moment to find any difference.

Am I the only one who remembers folks trying to hang Hugo Chavez around Obama’s neck like an albatross, constantly and repeatedly to leave the impression that they were comrades in arms and ideology?

Does anyone expect the media to actually latch on to the open admiration Trump has had for Le Pen, Wilders, Jobbik, etc?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:10:59pm

re: #11 thedopefishlives

I have 6 friends who have posted that in the past 48 hours.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:11:59pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

I have friends who have posted that in the pas 48 hours.

I hope they’ve ceased to be considered friends at that point.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:12:29pm

I predict six months or less with Reince as chief of staff. I think it’s just to give his gang some sort of establishment credibility with the congress critters. They’ll have a falling out by April and Reince will be gone by June, replaced by a barking dog like Lewandowski or (dog forbid) Manafort) or perhaps one of the spawn.

Unless we all luck out and the meteor comes first.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:12:54pm

re: #6 electrotek

If he normalizes hatred, allows the KKK to crawl out from under their rocks and kill, that’s OK, because it’s not on your hands, right?

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:13:20pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

I have friends who have posted that in the pas 48 hours.

Sign their names to a few anti-Trump petitions.

Let ‘em enjoy a little attention from the brownshirts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:13:36pm

re: #11 thedopefishlives

But but but Charles, I just saw this Facebook meme!

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Funny, when Obama appointed male white straight Christian males, he got accused of being racist against white male Christians. Who’s the gay guy?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:14:47pm

re: #14 Kryptik in Mourning

Am I the only one who remembers folks trying to hang Hugo Chavez around Obama’s neck like an albatross, constantly and repeatedly to leave the impression that they were comrades in arms and ideology?

Does anyone expect the media to actually latch on to the open admiration Trump has had for Le Pen, Wilders, Jobbik, etc?

Yep. And wasn’t Van Jones forced out of the Obama administration because he called Republicans “assholes” or something? There is no amount of shaming now that could bring leverage to bear on the GOP.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:15:02pm

re: #14 Kryptik in Mourning

Am I the only one who remembers folks trying to hang Hugo Chavez around Obama’s neck like an albatross, constantly and repeatedly to leave the impression that they were comrades in arms and ideology?

Does anyone expect the media to actually latch on to the open admiration Trump has had for Le Pen, Wilders, Jobbik, etc?

How many months did the Rev. Wright bullshit go on? Did it ever really stop?

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Timothy Watson  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:15:22pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Funny, when Obama appointed male white straight Christian males, he got accused of being racist against white male Christians. Who’s the gay guy?

Thiel.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:15:23pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Funny, when Obama appointed male white straight Christian males, he got accused of being racist against white male Christians. Who’s the gay guy?

I believe that’s super-authoriarian Peter Thiel.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:15:51pm

re: #24 Kryptik in Mourning

I believe that’s super-authoriarian Peter Thiel.

Oops yeah. What position is that asshole getting?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:15:58pm

re: #23 Timothy Watson

Thiel.

D’oh yeah.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:16:58pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

I have friends who have posted that in the pas 48 hours.

Apparently, “I have a black friend” logic is still alive and well in our country. What racism?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:18:40pm

Trump threw a black supporter out of his rally for crying out loud. As for homophobic, look at his VP. As for sexist, listen to teh man fucking talk.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:19:05pm

re: #27 thedopefishlives

Apparently, “I have a black friend” logic is still alive and well in our country. What racism?

Trump is Stephen Colbert’s ‘Colbert Report’ character, played straight and without the underlying well-meaningness. He doesn’t see color, because all he cares about is green and gold.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:19:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:20:22pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

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What it indicates to me is that Ryan told him that Reince would be better and he could still keep Bannon if he liked.

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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:20:36pm

I just don’t get what drives people to hate others for their heritage. Sigh…

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:21:41pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

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Axlerod’s approval of this move is a strong signal that he’s as easily duped as Trump’s voters.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:22:12pm

CNN is talking about this now. Charles Blow and Brian Seltser aren’t holding back too much. I wish they would just show the Renegade Jew cover.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:22:37pm

re: #33 Kryptik in Mourning

Axlerod’s approval of this move is a strong signal that he’s as easily duped as Trump’s voters.

Is it really approval honestly or more observation?

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:22:48pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

WTF is a “more conventional conservative path” in this situation? The fires and ovens starting years from now vs. months from now?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:22:51pm
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Lancelot Link  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:23:03pm

re: #6 electrotek

Yeah, I’m sure we can depend on people from fucking 4chan to help defend against misogyny, racism and homophobia.

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:23:45pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Oops yeah. What position is that asshole getting?

God knows. One possibility is SCOTUS justice.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:23:59pm

re: #38 Lancelot Link

Yeah, I’m sure we can depend on people from fucking 4chan to help defend against misogyny, racism and homophobia.

That sounds like a GREAT idea. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:25:41pm

re: #39 EPR-radar

God knows. One possibility is SCOTUS justice.

Shiver.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:25:49pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Is it really approval honestly or more observation?

The language seems like clear glowing approval of it.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:26:10pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

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Being I am not a tweeter…go get ‘em for me Skiguy! Give ‘em hell. Axelrod has lost the plot.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:26:14pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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What’s tough and difficult is this isn’t a confirmed position but it is once again speaking volumes about who Trump surrounds himself with.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:26:58pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:28:42pm

I think the word “all” has a new meaning.

At least it does when Trump said he wants to be president of ALL Americans.

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lockjawcanbefun  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:28:43pm
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baileylamb  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:29:26pm

re: #11 thedopefishlives

How dumb is Dr. Carson. Like how stupid? Does he not have access to a computer. What about his wife and kids?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:29:29pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

I think the word “all” has a new meaning.

At least it does when Trump said he wants to be president of ALL Americans.

If he were actually sincere about that, he never would have hired Bannon or ran the campaign eh did.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:30:28pm

Associate Justice Ted Cruz.

Surgeon General Ben Carson.

Head of Department of Education Ken Ham.

Homeland Security Director Joe Arpaio.

Head of Department of Commerce Donald Trump Jr.

Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement Tom Tancredo.

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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:30:46pm

re: #45 JasonA

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I don’t think Hayes realizes that that’s sarcasm.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:30:56pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

Associate Justice Ted Cruz.

Surgeon General Ben Carson.

Head of Department of Education Ken Ham.

Homeland Security Director Joe Arpaio.

Head of Department of Commerce Donald Trump Jr.

Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement Tom Tancredo.

….
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We’re fucked.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:31:12pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

I think the word “all” has a new meaning.

At least it does when Trump said he wants to be president of ALL Americans.

That’s easily reconciled.

Those who Trump isn’t president of aren’t real Americans. You’re not a real American. I’m not a real American. Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, Women,etc., aren’t real Americans.

The White Working Class? THEY’RE real Americans. In fact, they’re the only Americans. We’re just the infestation they bought the human can of Raid for.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:31:35pm

re: #51 No Depression

I don’t think Hayes realizes that that’s sarcasm.

I think Hayes was talking about Axelrod.

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:31:42pm

Trump and the Republicans are quite literally following the white supremacist goal of putting the ‘White’ back into the White House.

As long as Trump continues with his divisive, evil, scapegoating bullshit, the man will never be my president. He has declared himself to be my mortal enemy, and I will act accordingly.

And to the upper-midwest voters that voted for Obama but sat this one out, voted third party, or voted for Trump: Fuck you all, massively and repeatedly, with rusty farm implements. This disaster is on you, and I can only hope that you’ll be the first to feel its effects.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:31:56pm

re: #51 No Depression

I don’t think Hayes realizes that that’s sarcasm.

I took it more as him agreeing with him.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:31:57pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

Associate Justice Ted Cruz.

Surgeon General Ben Carson.

Head of Department of Education Ken Ham.

Homeland Security Director Joe Arpaio.

Head of Department of Commerce Donald Trump Jr.

Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement Tom Tancredo.

I think Clarke will get DHS. Don’t think Ham is being considred. Still though, all are awful.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:32:23pm
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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:32:26pm

re: #54 Belafon

I think Hayes was talking about Axelrod.

Yeah, you’re probably right.

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:32:47pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

I think the word “all” has a new meaning.

At least it does when Trump said he wants to be president of ALL Americans.

This is simple. “all” here means everyone who is left after a final solution or two.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:33:27pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

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Yeah that’s why Bannon is on his staff. Fuck off Newt. Anyhow, I think what Turmp is doing is appeasing the conservative establishment with Reince but also the alt-right with Bannon. Both are awful.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:33:27pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I think Clarke will get DHS. Don’t think Ham is being considred. Still though, all are awful.

Just spitballing. How about White House Youth Outreach Director Milo Yiannopoulos?

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:33:54pm

Would’ve been nice if a big deal had been made of this when Trump picked him as campaign manager.

Just sayin’.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:34:15pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

Just spitballing. How about White House Youth Outreach Director Milo Yiannopoulos?

Blagh! I don’t know. Is that an official position? I can definitely see Milo getting a job though.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:34:36pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:34:39pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

Just spitballing. How about White House Youth Outreach Director Milo Yiannopoulos?

Would be funny if they still refused to give him his Twitter account back.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:34:40pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

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Yes, because hiring the head of the self-proclaimed face of the alt-right, first as Campaign Manager, and now as Chief Counselor, is fabricating a connection.

Fuck you, Newt. My feeling is that you’re a fucking shitbag, and remember, you said feelings are just as good, if not better, than actual fact.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:34:41pm

I haven’t posted to my blog for a year, and before that I was mostly posting pie recipes and articles from other sources.

I have been thinking of breaking my blog silence with an article addressed to other Jews in my community but I can’t seem to get any further than YOU FUCKING FUCKS WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:35:16pm

re: #63 JasonA

Would’ve been nice if a big deal had been made of this when Trump picked him as campaign manager.

Just sayin’.

For Kellyanne too. She has as much history of Bannon as saying and believing hateufl shit.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:35:36pm

Jack Kingston: “He’s a media guy! He’s a business guy!”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:36:07pm

re: #70 JasonA

Jack Kingston: “He’s a media guy! He’s a business guy!”

And he’s also a racist guy but who cares. //

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:37:22pm

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

I haven’t posted to my blog for a year, and before that I was mostly posting pie recipes and articles from other sources.

I have been thinking of breaking my blog silence with an article addressed to other Jews in my community but I can’t seem to get any further than YOU FUCKING FUCKS WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING

Jews for Trump is seriously getting into Jews for Hitler territory.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:37:24pm
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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:39:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:39:19pm

As I’ve said, he’s normalized racism. In 10-20 years, we have openly racist think tanks in Washington that will make Heritage look like a bunch of liberals.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:39:42pm

re: #72 EPR-radar

Jews for Trump is seriously getting into Jews for Hitler territory.

They’re all like “…but Ivanka!” and I’m like YOU FUCKING FUCKS IVANKA DOESN’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU SHE JUST WANTS TO SELL HER SHMATTAS

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:40:35pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

As I’ve said, he’s normalized racism. In 10-20 years, we have openly racist think tanks in Washington that will make Heritage look like a bunch of liberals.

Our goal is to stop that before it gets going, and to end it as quickly as we can if that fails.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:41:04pm

re: #77 Belafon

Our goal is to stop that before it gets going, and to end it as quickly as we can if that fails.

Yes.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:41:15pm

Environmental Protection Agency director Rex Tillerson.

Secretary of Interior Sarah Palin.

White House Communications Director Roger Ailes.

White House Press Secretary Mark Levin.

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Archangelus  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:41:24pm

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

I haven’t posted to my blog for a year, and before that I was mostly posting pie recipes and articles from other sources.

I have been thinking of breaking my blog silence with an article addressed to other Jews in my community but I can’t seem to get any further than YOU FUCKING FUCKS WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING

Seems good to me. What are you waiting for?
לכי על זה! :)

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:41:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:42:19pm

I think Rudy gets DOJ. The whole “America’s mayor” crap and the fact that Christie has a lot of baggaeg might make him a otugh sell.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:43:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:43:51pm

Sid “She’s a c-word” Miller might get AG.

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:43:58pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

I think Rudy gets DOJ. The whole “America’s mayor” crap and the fact that Christie has a lot of baggaeg might make him a otugh sell.

That’s plausible. Rudy is just the asshole to continue the Clinton witch hunts using all the power of the Federal law enforcement agencies.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:44:10pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:44:12pm

re: #83 JasonA

It’s old.

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Lancelot Link  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:45:01pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

I think Axelrod is more likely pointing out that Trumpy’s unlikely to be vetoing anything coming from conservatives in Congress (ACA repeal, SS privatization)

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:45:22pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:46:59pm

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

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With a little contrition, Ben could still cop an appointed position or SES slot.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:47:11pm

re: #89 JasonA

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I was wondering who on the left he was talking about, and then I saw what was in his Twitter timeline.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:47:40pm
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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:48:04pm

re: #91 Belafon

I was wondering who on the left he was talking about, and then I saw what was in his Twitter timeline.

But remember, the leftists are the REAL anti-semites because they hate Israel and want them all to die!!!

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:48:51pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:48:52pm

We might very well need these people. Like every single person who is mad at this administration whether they fell for this con or not. I’m open to rebuttles, but this is code red.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:49:16pm

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

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You used to work for him Ben. YEah it is bad news but you used to literally work for this guy taking his money to spread hate against those you hated.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:49:17pm

Jews, Latinos, blacks, women, and gays are going to all be threatened by this presidency. I wonder what it will take to keep those people from voting for him later?

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:49:46pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

From where I sit, I’m seeing no difference between mainstream conservatism and alt-right white supremacist shit.

The US conservative movement has supersaturated itself with racist dog whistles etc. to such an extent that the instant someone wins by being explicitly racist (as Trump has done), the entire movement becomes alt-right overnight.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:50:08pm

re: #95 JasonA

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We might very well need these people. Like every single person who is mad at this administration whether they fell for this con or not. I’m open to rebuttles, but this is code red.

We tried telling them that this stuff wouldn’t work, but nooooo, nobody would listen to us “stupid libruls”. Now we’re still right and they’re regretting it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:50:09pm

re: #94 Nyet

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Good. Feel betrayed.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:51:52pm

re: #95 JasonA

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We might very well need these people. Like every single person who is mad at this administration whether they fell for this con or not. I’m open to rebuttles, but this is code red.

I’ve got to figure out a polite way to call them idiots, and a good way to get them to admit they were wrong so that it doesn’t bruise their egos.

I’m generally pretty good at empathizing with people, but this may be tough.

The thing is, though, how would you keep them from just looking for the crazier guy who says the same stuff?

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:51:58pm

shit

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:52:31pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Good. Feel betrayed.

I can only hope that surviving the upcoming shit storm will convince a lot of these people that it is a class war going on, not a race war, and that the GOP is not on their side of the conflict.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:53:39pm

re: #99 thedopefishlives

We tried telling them that this stuff wouldn’t work, but nooooo, nobody would listen to us “stupid libruls”. Now we’re still right and they’re regretting it.

Regretting will come when Trump signs the cuts to Medicare and Social Security. Right now it’s just going to be “We’ve been fooled. On to the next guy who will deport the Mexicans.”

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:53:57pm

re: #101 Belafon

I’ve got to figure out a polite way to call them idiots, and a good way to get them to admit they were wrong so that it doesn’t bruise their egos.

I’m generally pretty good at empathizing with people, but this may be tough.

The thing is, though, how would you keep them from just looking for the crazier guy who says the same stuff?

Listen, if a Trumper ever expresses regret to me I won’t be friendly with him. But we can’t afford to spit in their faces either. I don’t see how this nation survives otherwise.

EDITED TO CHANGE “WILL BE FRIENDLY TO WON’T”

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Archangelus  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:54:00pm

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

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Tempted to tweet to him that i hope he has an Israeli passport, and that if not he should get one ASAP… sadly, for once, my reply to him would not be cynical but dead serious for a change…

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:54:28pm

re: #95 JasonA

I realize it may be a political necessity to be nice to Trump voters who realize they were conned, but as a non-politician I can be more direct. Fuck that noise.

Nobody could honestly believe the horseshit the Trump campaign put out. 1) The promises were impossible and 2) the man is a compulsive and habitual liar.

So to offset the grave sin of voting for Trump, the apologist can offer precisely nothing.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:54:54pm

re: #105 JasonA

Listen, if a Trumper ever expresses regret to me I will be friendly with him. But we can’t afford to spit in their faces either. I don’t see how this nation survives otherwise.

I agree. I just don’t see much space to move forward until they finally go “we fucked up.”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:55:11pm
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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:55:59pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

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The Tea Party perfected that.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:56:04pm

re: #101 Belafon

The party should in no way offend them.

Me? I’m just a guy on the internet. I’ll call them as I see them: fucking sociopathic scum.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:56:25pm

Love to know at exactly what millisecond @potus becomes his. Don’t want to unfollow Pres Obama for even one instant, nor follow Trump for even one instant.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:57:29pm

re: #105 JasonA

Listen, if a Trumper ever expresses regret to me I won’t be friendly with him. But we can’t afford to spit in their faces either. I don’t see how this nation survives otherwise.

EDITED TO CHANGE “WILL BE FRIENDLY TO WON’T”

Just want to make sure everyone knows what I meant. Consternation. Disappointment.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:58:05pm

re: #108 Belafon

I agree. I just don’t see much space to move forward until they finally go “we fucked up.”

That’s fine! I would expect that too!!

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:58:15pm

re: #112 Unshaken Defiance

Love to know at exactly what millisecond @potus becomes his. Don’t want to unfollow Pres Obama for even one instant, nor follow Trump for even one instant.

Charles, a suggestion. Instead of all of us following Trump as POTUS, could you have the website listen for Trump tweets and post them here?

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:58:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:58:55pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2016 • 2:59:01pm

We are about to hear a lot of proposals and ideas from Trump. Here ya go we are all gonne need this. #NO

Just No
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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:00:27pm

re: #118 Unshaken Defiance

We are about to hear a lot of proposals and ideas from Trump. Here ya go we are all gonne need this. #NO

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See? I’m beginning to understand “The Party of No” already.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:01:00pm

My dad was hearing from a bunch of people at his church. Their given reason for voting against Clinton: abortion. Shocker, I know.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:01:18pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:01:50pm

re: #119 Decatur Deb

See? I’m beginning to understand “The Party of No” already.

Thanks for the laugh!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:02:12pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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Obama having a white mother didn’t stop these assholes from claiming and still claiming that Obama ahtes whites. Even fucking Hitler had one Jewish person that he was okay with.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:02:59pm

re: #121 JasonA

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:04:11pm

re: #121 JasonA

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:04:52pm

re: #120 Belafon

My dad was hearing from a bunch of people at his church. Their given reason for voting against Clinton: abortion. Shocker, I know.

They do not care who sits in that office as long as they will appoint right-wing justices.

But we knew that already.

Trump said so himself.

And quite frankly it weighs on our opinions here on the left too. I see it as a distinct flaw in our Constitution now. At least at it pertains to the modern age. The two branches are too intertwined.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:04:56pm

re: #120 Belafon

My dad was hearing from a bunch of people at his church. Their given reason for voting against Clinton: abortion. Shocker, I know.

ali G and abortion

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:05:38pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I do disagree with that but it doesn’t change that Bannon being on the WH staff is a big deal.

I dunno, man. It seems like whoever last spoke to Trump holds a lot of influence over him.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:07:36pm

On a more pleasant topic

Arrival.

Science Fiction more down to earth than todays news. Even with aliens landing. Watching Amy Adams and Forest Whitaker work together is pretty amazing. Smart and sharp rather than battle gory and scary. Well worth seeing, has re set the bar much higher for first contact SciFi.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:08:53pm

re: #128 JasonA

I dunno, man. It seems like whoever last spoke to Trump holds a lot of influence over him.

True, I’m thinking over this too conventionally. Anyhow, just heard the local news is saying Bannon’s title is going to include chief strategist. FML. And that asshole Newt has the nerve to claim that Trump’s connections to the alt-right are over played. Maybe him and Bannon will meet when Turmp inevitably gives Newt a job. I think Newt’s going to get SOS. I dont’ see it being Bolton since Newt was a bigger advocate.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:09:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:10:55pm

re: #131 JasonA

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So the normalizing of Bannon has begun. Clinton tried to warn the American people that Trump’s campaign was full of people like him and people ignored her. We’re not going to get rid of Bannon like we would one of his cabinet posts since Bannon is a non-confirmed adviser too. Fuck man.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:11:18pm

Can the city not let the President come to town?

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:11:30pm

Here’s something to lighten the mood a bit. Hunter at Dailykos explaining the finer points of US libel law as it relates to POTUS: dailykos.com

Donald Trump’s minions seem to be confused about this, so let’s fill them in on something they’re going to need to know going forward: The President of the United States has the least legal protection against criticism or libel of anyone in the country. As the ultimate public figure, courts are obliged to grant public citizens wide leeway. This is why, for example, elected public officials, private citizens, and the Fox News channel have been repeatedly able to peddle 100% false information about Barack Obama for a decade with absolutely no repercussions.

To demonstrate how this works, I could, for example, say something like “President Donald Trump is a small-penised sex-obsessed pervert who stands accused of raping a 13 year old girl and who, given his temperament, has in all likelihood sexually abused at least one of his own children. He is mentally unstable and among the dumbest individuals ever to hold any public office anywhere, is quite probably colluding with Russia to undermine American interests, and spends his evenings aggressively masturbating to National Geographic footage of burrowing meerkats. His sole aim in acquiring the presidency is to convert the Lincoln Bedroom into a Rape Room, and he will sell an American nuclear weapon to ISIS for fifteen dollars and change if he thinks he’d make two dollars worth of profit on it.”

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:15:07pm

If I spot a guy wearing a MAGA cap, is it okay for me to walk behind him ringing a bell and saying
“Shame.”

“Shame.”

“Shame.”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:16:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:17:00pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:17:31pm
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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:17:54pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

His interview with Newt Gingrich and Pat Buchanan was pure hilarity.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:19:08pm

If this were anyone else I would ask if they were Trolling Trump.

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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:20:57pm

re: #140 JasonA

If this were anyone else I would ask if they were Trolling Trump.

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Man, he even looks like a total nutjob.

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bratwurst  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:21:12pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:22:45pm

re: #141 No Depression

Man, he even looks like a total nutjob.

Or more likely he’s trying redefine blind trust.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:23:37pm
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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:28:20pm

Kelly now says Trump was trying to buy people. Fuck you Kelly. at least Kelly Ann Conway was honest about be a lying bitch.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:29:00pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:29:46pm

re: #144 JasonA

Newt’s position seems clear enough to me — Newt is as alt-right as Bannon is, so he naturally sees no problem with Bannon.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:29:49pm

re: #145 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Kelly now says Trump was trying to buy people. Fuck you Kelly. at least Kelly Ann Conway was honest about be a lying bitch.

I thought that came out a couple of days ago. Then again my sense of time is completely fucked over right now.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:30:01pm

re: #148 JasonA

I thought that came out a couple of days ago. Then again my sense of time is completely fucked over right now.

It has not been a week.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:30:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:32:01pm

The past few days on Twitter have been a reminder that although the left is definitely correct on most issues, there’s a segment of the far left that’s just as fucked up and hateful as the far right.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:32:30pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

The past few days on Twitter have been a reminder that although the left is definitely correct on most issues, there’s a segment of the far left that’s just as fucked up and hateful as the far right.

And they’ll get the attention.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:32:39pm

re: #148 JasonA

I thought that came out a couple of days ago. Then again my sense of time is completely fucked over right now.

My sense of time is so bad, I don’t know why people are making fun of Rick Astley.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:32:49pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

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And my wingnut friends’ reply is: Something something something absentee ballots something

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:35:25pm
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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:35:39pm

Part of me really wishes Hillary had all the machinery in place that they claim she had, and cause Florida and North Carolina to flip to her in a final tally. But actually, I’m kind of thinking we’re going to need this fight and the havoc Republicans are going to wreak on entitlements. I wish the courts were left out of it.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:36:04pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:37:52pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:40:09pm

Sooo…ummm is Trump still President?

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:40:17pm

re: #157 JasonA

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Cleek’s Law is literally the operative policy of the United States now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:41:30pm

re: #155 JasonA

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Now imagine if Obama brought on a guy who praised Lenin…Yeah

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:41:46pm

re: #159 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Sooo…ummm is Trump still President?

I am giving permission to lie to me.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:42:07pm

re: #157 JasonA

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Fucking conservative idiots.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:42:57pm

re: #133 JasonA

Can the city not let the President come to town?

Maybe DC will not let him come. That would be a happy day. Not living near his auric stench would make me happy.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:43:57pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:45:10pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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What really, really fills me with white-hot rage is that Jared Kushner is every anti-Semitic Jewish stereotype that you can think of.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:45:58pm

re: #165 JasonA

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you can only hope its just a confederate flag.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:46:24pm

re: #165 JasonA

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Ha!

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:46:56pm

Durango, CO.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:47:10pm

re: #167 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

you can only hope its just a confederate flag.

I only need to say this once BANNON.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:47:30pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

Durango, CO.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:48:30pm

Stewart/Colbert 2020.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:49:22pm

re: #172 GlutenFreeJesus

Stewart/Colbert 2020.

Why not? Jon is just as qualified as Trump is and a lot smarter.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:49:40pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:49:50pm

re: #172 GlutenFreeJesus

Stewart/Colbert 2020.

They could not do worse.

fuck, I honestly believe that I could not do worse….

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:49:54pm

re: #157 JasonA

His smile looks like an alien slug.

Image: GF4AOowc.jpg

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:49:54pm

re: #170 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

I only need to say this once BANNON.

I could care less about Trump. It’s Bannon that scares the shit out of me.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:50:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:50:05pm

I don’t know what to eat for dinner. For breakfast I had a boureka and for lunch I had 1/2 c. of leftover mac & cheese.

Ice cream and pie again?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:50:54pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

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Government hands off my Medicare eh?

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:51:03pm

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know what to eat for dinner. For breakfast I had a boureka and for lunch I had 1/2 c. of leftover mac & cheese.

Ice cream and pie again?

I’ve got some chicken breasts I marinated overnight in the slow cooker. Won’t be ready for a few more hours. I’m hungry!

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:52:08pm

re: #181 teleskiguy

I’ve got some chicken breasts I marinated overnight in the slow cooker. Won’t be ready for a few more hours. I’m hungry!

I had a really busy day today, and of course Mrs. Fish is in a back brace, so I planned ahead today and did a beef roast in the crock pot with apples, soy sauce, and worcestershire. YUM.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:52:16pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

Do any Trump voters really want this though?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:53:36pm

re: #183 JasonA

Do any Trump voters really want this though?

Ryan does.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:55:42pm

This made me feel good.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:56:07pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Ryan does.

Don’t remind me that Ryan won..

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:56:58pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Ryan does.

That was not the question, but I accept the answer,

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:57:45pm

re: #183 JasonA

Do any Trump voters really want this though?

We can ask them again in a couple years.

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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:59:48pm

re: #166 The Vicious Babushka

What really, really fills me with white-hot rage is that Jared Kushner is every anti-Semitic Jewish stereotype that you can think of.

Is it too strong to call Kushner a fucking kapo?

Just asking for some friends…

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 3:59:54pm

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austin_blue  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:01:04pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

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Hang in there, my man. Deep breaths…

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:02:58pm
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b_sharp  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:04:27pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:04:29pm

Jesus Christ I see dumbass liberals are already starting to warm up to Trump by claiming he was just faking it.

Facebook Post

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:05:06pm

re: #183 JasonA

Do any Trump voters really want this though?

Doesn’t matter — the Republican Party has been trying to do this for a very long time, and now they see a way to make it happen.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:05:18pm

re: #194 electrotek

Jesus Christ I see dumbass liberals are already starting to warm up to Trump by claiming he was just faking it.

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Sigh.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:05:27pm

Does anyone believe a single word that comes out of the mouth of Newt Gingrich? If they do, they need therapy.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:05:49pm

re: #194 electrotek

Jesus Christ I see dumbass liberals are already starting to warm up to Trump by claiming he was just faking it.

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It’s part of the denial phase - refusing to admit the hole we are falling into is as deep or dangerous as many think.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:06:10pm

Well the Dems will run on restoring Medicare.
If they don’t win then, well, I don’t know.

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darthstar  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:07:16pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

Ski season is almost upon us. Be well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:07:29pm

re: #194 electrotek

Jesus Christ I see dumbass liberals are already starting to warm up to Trump by claiming he was just faking it.

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He is going to make a lot of moves to make himself popular with a lot of people…

It will be some time before we become aware of the true extent of damage…

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Timothy Watson  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:07:49pm

re: #194 electrotek

Jesus Christ I see dumbass liberals are already starting to warm up to Trump by claiming he was just faking it.

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For something he said in October? For a plan that caps payments at 12.5% of income when there are plans that already cap payments at 10% of income?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:08:31pm

It’s very possible that Trump might turn out to be a center-right President in the mold of George W. Bush. The thing that conservatives fail to understand is, unlike the aforementioned Bush, it’s just as possible that Trump might turn out to be a far-right nutjob in the mold of Adolf Hitler.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:08:31pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:08:47pm

re: #191 austin_blue

Hang in there, my man. Deep breaths…

I’m alright.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:10:18pm

re: #200 darthstar

Ski season is almost upon us. Be well.

THERE’S NO SNOW!!! IT’S TOO WARM!!!

AAAAARGH!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:11:28pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:12:29pm

re: #97 Belafon

Jews, Latinos, blacks, women, and gays are going to all be threatened by this presidency. I wonder what it will take to keep those people from voting for him later?

Your list is incomplete.

Another big group that will need to worry are journalists.

Others to consider: artists, comedians, scientists that push global warming and other stuff considered “junk science” by the wingnuts and anyone that says anything against the regime. Basically everyone in this country could end up toeing the line.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:12:34pm

re: #206 teleskiguy

I can remember mountain biking on Thanksgiving a few times in my life. I went skiing on Christmas Day in Steamboat one year and it was raining.

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:13:13pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

But please let’s hear some more about why we should understand these poor souls.//

I understand these poor souls just fine. They are the scum of the earth, and have voted one of their own into the Presidency.

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darthstar  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:13:47pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:16:03pm

re: #211 darthstar

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:16:10pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

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Had the horrific Nice attack been committed by a LePen supporter against climate change protestors in Paris, we would have seen mass jubilation by many.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:16:45pm

re: #197 ObserverArt

Does anyone believe a single word that comes out of the mouth of Newt Gingrich? If they do, they need therapy.

I believed him back in the 1990s when he said he wanted to let Medicare wither on the vine.

He told the the truth and his protege Paul Ryan is going to make it happen.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:16:53pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

Good comeback. NOT

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:17:35pm

re: #215 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Meh.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:17:58pm

This has brightened my mood!

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darthstar  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:18:45pm

re: #212 teleskiguy

Cool. Really looking forward to this season. I’m one of the two patrol instructors training new candidates. I get to do all the sled work with them. We take those suckers off cornices, down the mankiest crap we can find…people on our mountain know how to run sleds.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:20:18pm

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:21:08pm

re: #218 darthstar

The guys doing rope rescues in Crested Butte and Jackson Hole, those ski patrol outfits are most impressive. Not doggin’ on your crew, it’s all honorable grunt work.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:23:04pm

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:23:32pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

Update: Durango, CO tonight.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:24:26pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

Update: Durango, CO tonight.

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Assholes need to stopped and fought.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:26:24pm

Anybody have the article or info about the electoral college that say a state like Wyoming, Montana North Dakota, which have 3, and California has 55? It works out to one vote in California is equal to one vote is worth 65 in those other states. Something like that.

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darthstar  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:27:23pm

re: #220 teleskiguy

The guys doing rope rescues in Crested Butte and Jackson Hole, those ski patrol outfits are most impressive. Not doggin’ on your crew, it’s all honorable grunt work.

The pros do the rope rescues on our mountain. We have a few places where we regularly have to do that. I don’t even want to be part of that. When someone gets rocked out on a cliff, I call the pros.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:27:34pm

In Durango, CO, the town I was born in. Not even a part of the Union or the Confederacy during the Civil War. Southern pride my asshole.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:28:20pm
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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:29:42pm
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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:29:48pm

Well, alright, here’s my tweetstorm on the good, the bad, and the oh-fuck-we’re-done-for.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:30:47pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

Update: Durango, CO tonight.

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HAHA retrofitting your F-150 diesel to “roll coal” voids the warranty.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:32:53pm

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know what to eat for dinner. For breakfast I had a boureka and for lunch I had 1/2 c. of leftover mac & cheese.

Ice cream and pie again?

Whatever comfort food you have on hand.

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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:33:19pm

re: #177 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

I could care less about Trump. It’s Bannon that scares the shit out of me.

That’s what i’ve been trying to impress upon people that I’ve been speaking with IRL about the fallout of President Play-Doh’s election: Trump may be walking back a bunch of his campaign promises, but he’s still a Republican, bringing in a bunch of GOP retreads and new alt-righters to the Executive Branch. This, combined with a Republican Congress and a soon-to-be-resurgent conservative SCOTUS, should be the ultimate takeaway from all of this, but it’s not like many of us didn’t try to warn people.

Basically, enough of the American people, in just the right spots, decided to say, “just lie to me and say that you love me while you’re fucking me and everyone else with no lube.”

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b_sharp  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:33:34pm

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

HAHA retrofitting your F-150 diesel to “roll coal” voids the warranty.

None of those idiots who roll coal were alive during the ’60s and ’70s when people had to stay inside or wear masks during smog days. Ignorant asses don’t look to history.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:34:04pm

re: #67 Citizen K

Yes, because hiring the head of the self-proclaimed face of the alt-right, first as Campaign Manager, and now as Chief Counselor, is fabricating a connection.

Fuck you, Newt. My feeling is that you’re a fucking shitbag, and remember, you said feelings are just as good, if not better, than actual fact.

And yet, your feeling is, in fact, based on actual fact.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:34:52pm

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

I haven’t posted to my blog for a year, and before that I was mostly posting pie recipes and articles from other sources.

I have been thinking of breaking my blog silence with an article addressed to other Jews in my community but I can’t seem to get any further than YOU FUCKING FUCKS WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING

A strong lead is very important! I think you’ve got it.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:37:01pm

re: #177 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

I could care less about Trump. It’s Bannon that scares the shit out of me.

That would require you to forget that Trump is the one that hired him in the first place and is considering him now.

Eye on the ball. We all need to play defense.

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austin_blue  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:38:37pm

Wow. ‘Boys score w/ 9 seconds left.

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ninja cat  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:39:01pm

re: #219 Unshaken Defiance

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I’ve got this playing right now. Also a lot of Brian Eno, Moby & classical since Tuesday. I just don’t want to hear words right now. (Exception will be made for Walkng Dead).

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darthstar  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:39:26pm

re: #236 ObserverArt

That would require you to forget that Trump is the one that hired him in the first place and is considering him now.

Eye on the ball. We all need to play defense.

I”m just afraid Trump will let Pence call the shots since he’ll have better things to do travelling around making America great again. Pence is a true threat to our constitution.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:39:37pm

re: #182 thedopefishlives

I had a really busy day today, and of course Mrs. Fish is in a back brace, so I planned ahead today and did a beef roast in the crock pot with apples, soy sauce, and worcestershire. YUM.

I was going to ask yesterday when I saw you were on. How is she doing? Hopefully there is little pain or that it is under control.

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nines09  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:40:47pm

I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed a 60 minute blow job, but Leslie seems like she’s going to pull it off.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:41:49pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:41:52pm

Here’s a terrifying thought.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:42:52pm

re: #237 austin_blue

Wow. ‘Boys score w/ 9 seconds left.

Been that kind of week

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baileylamb  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:43:36pm

re: #120 Belafon

Didn’t Hitler ban abortion? Haven’t they heard the road to hell is paved by good intentions?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:43:46pm

FAKE

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:44:33pm

re: #243 teleskiguy

Something tells me it will be Dr Oz.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:44:34pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

As I’ve said, he’s normalized racism. In 10-20 years, we have openly racist think tanks in Washington that will make Heritage look like a bunch of liberals.

I could have sworn I read somewhere today about Regnery starting a new “think tank.” Can’t remember where I saw it, but you can bet your bottom dollar it will be racist, anti-semitic or both.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:44:54pm

re: #243 teleskiguy

Here’s a terrifying thought.

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He might be all for the rescheduling of weed tho’.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:45:23pm

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

Fake of course.

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SirMixALot  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:46:00pm

re: #6 electrotek

People posting this bullshit:

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Is Anonymous really Russia?

en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:46:05pm

re: #243 teleskiguy

re: #249 Eventual Carrion

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:46:24pm

Christmas car ad just shown on TV. WTF

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CuriousLurker  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:46:29pm

re: #213 electrotek

I see you’re back to bashing Sunnis—not extremists, not terrorists, just Sunnis—which constitutes hundreds of millions of your fellow Muslims. You’re as much of an asshole bigot as you claim they are. I should’ve know the change was too good to last.

#Blocked and on permanent gaze from now on. I’m not in the mood for this crap.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:46:53pm

re: #250 Nyet

Fake of course.

I realized that in about 2 seconds.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:48:27pm

Fucking fake news sites.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:49:16pm
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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:49:32pm

I just bought ‘Being There’ on Blu-Ray a few weeks ago. It would have been fun to watch again if Hillary had won, as she should have. Now, I can’t take off the wrapper.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:49:53pm

re: #239 darthstar

I”m just afraid Trump will let Pence call the shots since he’ll have better things to do travelling around making America great again. Pence is a true threat to our constitution.

Both-erism.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:50:14pm

Re: the electoral college.
theodysseyonline.com

“Your vote is not as equal as others.
In a true democracy, every citizen’s vote should count equally; however, this is not the case with the electoral college. The electoral college is made up of 538 “votes” that are theoretically distributed proportionally per the population of the state. Each state gets a minimum of 3 electoral votes, and then obtain more based on their population. States then, by theory, should receive 1 electoral vote for approximately every 565,000 people. This does not occur, however, due to the 3 vote minimum per state. Let’s take California and Wyoming for example; the highest and lowest populated states, respectively. In 2008, California had an estimated population of 36,756,666 compared to Wyoming’s 532,668. If solely distributed by population, California should have received 65 electoral votes, but was instead only granted 55. On the contrary, Wyoming was given their minimum 3 votes while they only should have had 1. This means that every vote cast in the 2008 election by a citizen of Wyoming had a relative value of 318% compared to California’s meager 85%. Likewise, in 2008, 36 of the 50 states + DC had their vote count for more than that of the other 15 states (fairvote.org).”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:50:33pm

re: #237 austin_blue

Wow. ‘Boys score w/ 9 seconds left.

Ruined my day. Congrats Cowboys fans though. That truly was a great one. Too bad the Steelers lost but I do respect that bunch of Cowboys.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:50:59pm

re: #247 Nyet

Something tells me it will be Dr Oz.

Damn good guess. TV stars need to stick ‘em together.

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Weaselone  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:51:04pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

The past few days on Twitter have been a reminder that although the left is definitely correct on most issues, there’s a segment of the far left that’s just as fucked up and hateful as the far right.

Of course, but that’s never really been the issue. That section of the left has essentially no power. They aren’t being elected dog catcher in most places, let alone President.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:52:55pm

OK, I tinkered around with various formats, being “new” to twitter (really) and all, and this wide version with two columns seems to be most readable upon clicking. One narrow long column is not readily readable, the wide version with one column was OK but the text lines too long for comfort. Will prolly make future memes on this basis.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:53:17pm

re: #98 EPR-radar

From where I sit, I’m seeing no difference between mainstream conservatism and alt-right white supremacist shit.

The US conservative movement has supersaturated itself with racist dog whistles etc. to such an extent that the instant someone wins by being explicitly racist (as Trump has done), the entire movement becomes alt-right overnight.

I’ve been saying for months that it is a distinction without a difference (and if I could use the search function, I could blind you with my brilliance.)

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:53:42pm

re: #263 Weaselone

Of course, but that’s never really been the issue. That section of the left has essentially no power. They aren’t being elected dog catcher in most places, let alone President.

Except when they throw a temper tantrum and stay home during the election.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:53:51pm

re: #253 Eventual Carrion

Christmas car ad just shown on TV. WTF

You’re late, I’ve been seeing Christmas car ads for two or three weeks now.

But, yeah, it sucks. I think all that just robs the Holiday of anything special. I guess as long as you say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays or Season’s Greeting…it’s all good with the Evangelicals.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:54:43pm

re: #265 BeachDem

I’ve been saying for months that it is a distinction without a difference (and if I could use the search function, I could blind you with my brilliance.)

Did any of you ever see the Great Escape? When we talk about mainstream conservatives and the alt-right, it brings to mind Richard Attenborough as Big X talking with Group Commander Ramsey about how he views the Luftwaffe and SS as the same thing when Ramsey tries to assure Big X that they’re under the jurisdiction of the Luftwaffe and not the SS.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:54:59pm

re: #254 CuriousLurker

I see you’re back to bashing Sunnis—not extremists, not terrorists, just Sunnis—which constitutes hundreds of millions of your fellow Muslims. You’re as much of an asshole bigot as they are. I should’ve know the change was too good to last.

#Blocked and on permanent gaze from now on. I’m not in the mood for this crap.

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I come from a Sunni family, I speak on experience when it comes to people who talk about unity and pretend to show no concern for minorities being persecuted in their own country. Plus that 140 character limit prevented from mentioning extremists either.

That being said, I don’t have any issue with calling out the hypocrisy other Muslim groups either.

I’m sorry you feel that way, but I can’t go around and pretend that Sunni privilege is as real as white privilege in many Muslim countries. When you have a friend that is an Ahmadi and very few Sunni Muslims acknowledge the reality he had to go through in his own country, then you’ll understand. Maybe you can see the 100k+ Muslims who came out to protest a Christian governor in Jakarta and resorted to calling for his execution over a heavily doctored video, you know the same way that Tea Party protestors did the same with Obama?

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mmmirele  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:55:20pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:55:24pm

re: #266 Nyet

Except when they throw a temper tantrum and stay home during the election.

That may their biggest power of all. Honestly, I’m sick of them. I really don’t like theri arrogance.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:55:59pm

re: #107 EPR-radar

I realize it may be a political necessity to be nice to Trump voters who realize they were conned, but as a non-politician I can be more direct. Fuck that noise.

Nobody could honestly believe the horseshit the Trump campaign put out. 1) The promises were impossible and 2) the man is a compulsive and habitual liar.

So to offset the grave sin of voting for Trump, the apologist can offer precisely nothing.

I’m with you—if they’re that stupid and/or hateful, who wants them?

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:56:51pm

re: #267 ObserverArt

But, yeah, it sucks. I think all that just robs the Holiday of anything special. I guess as long as you say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays or Season’s Greeting…it’s all good with the Evangelicals.

Didn’t Trump say he’s gonna ban people from saying Happy Holidays?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:56:59pm

re: #264 Nyet

OK, I tinkered around with various formats, being “new” to twitter (really) and all, and this wide version with two columns seems to be most readable upon clicking. One narrow long column is not readily readable, the wide version with one column was OK but the text lines too long for comfort. Will prolly make future memes on this basis.

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You can include up to four images in a tweet, so that’s another way to go.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:57:22pm

*FACE PALM*

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:57:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:58:26pm

re: #273 scottslemmons

Didn’t Trump say he’s gonna ban people from saying Happy Holidays?

Something like that which was funny because people found “Happy Holidays” on Trump Org stationary. I’d love to see them try to enforce that shit.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:58:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:59:26pm

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

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Have you ever talked to your own husband, Melania? The man who literally just last month told people to watch a porn video that didn’t exist with a woman who criticized him. Seriously, do you even know who you’re married ot?

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:59:31pm

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Something like that which was funny because people found “Happy Holidays” on Trump Org stationary. I’d love to see them try to enforce that shit.

I’m sure the All New, All Trump Supreme Court will give it a tiny thumbs up.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:59:44pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

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Jesus.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 4:59:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:00:08pm

re: #280 scottslemmons

I’m sure the All New, All Trump Supreme Court will give it a tiny thumbs up.

I’m sure they will.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:00:16pm

I’m actually very disappointed, upset even, that CuriousLurker would accuse me of being a bigot.

Honest question: can you be a bigot against white people if you point out the reality of white privilege?

That’s where I was alluding to with the tweet about Sunni Muslims, especially when you live as a majority in any Muslim country with a Sunni-majority.

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darthstar  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:01:22pm

I imagine when Melania was told she’d have to do something regarding children as first lady her first thought was I have to go visit boarding schools?

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:01:55pm

re: #134 EPR-radar

Here’s something to lighten the mood a bit. Hunter at Dailykos explaining the finer points of US libel law as it relates to POTUS: dailykos.com

But Omarosa has lists!!

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darthstar  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:02:32pm
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darthstar  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:02:57pm

That one caused me to do a double-take as well.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:04:16pm

re: #249 Eventual Carrion

He might be all for the rescheduling of weed tho’.

ludes

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:04:17pm

re: #287 darthstar

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LOL, wut? And yeah I don’t believe a word of that with Pence as VP at all. Even if they don’t touch gay marriage, there are a lot of other protections for LGBT people that Pence wants to and will be overturn that the Obama administration has done.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:04:19pm

Sounds like it may be time for us to start taking pro-active measures and establish a presence on the dark web just in case we become targets….

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Weaselone  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:04:43pm

re: #266 Nyet

Except when they throw a temper tantrum and stay home during the election.

Is that really what happened this election? One would have expected that behavior to manifest itself most strongly in safe liberal states like MA and CA, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. The states of PA, MI and WI appear to have been more impacted by Republican voter suppression measures and the FBI assuming that the favorable margin in late deciders for Trump was impacted by Comey’s November surprise.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:05:26pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

I’ve met so many fucked up ppl since returning to twitter. I don’t complain, I mean I troll Nazis and all. But e.g. finding a nest of Dutch (or Flemish?) neo-Nazi believers in flat Earth (and of course in all other manners of conspiracies) was somewhat of a surprise. This flat Earth thing has really taken off.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:05:43pm

thehill.com
Too little, too late, and honestly a lot of excuses still “I think it’s very little.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:07:03pm

re: #294 Nyet

I’ve met so many fucked up ppl since returning to twitter. I don’t complain, I mean I troll Nazis and all. But e.g. finding a nest of Dutch (or Flemish?) neo-Nazi believers in flat Earth (and of course in all other manners of conspiracies) was somewhat of a surprise. This flat Earth thing has really taken off.

It honestly disturbs me how many Neo-Nazis there are out there. What I am wondering now is if they were always there and the rise in mass communication i.e. Twitter and Facebook has brought them out more or their numbers have gone up in recent years.

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:07:11pm

re: #249 Eventual Carrion

He might be all for the rescheduling of weed tho’.

Weeee! Pot & Circuses!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:07:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:09:22pm

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

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As much as I support SSM, it would actually make more sense for him to say he wouldn’t touch Roe but would SSM since Roe has been settled law for over 40 years and SSM has for only a couple. That said, as I said, there are other protections for LGBT people that he can and I think certainly will eliminate since Pence has already said that’s in the plans.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:10:35pm

It’s also theoretically possible while he won’t touch gay marriage himself, his Supreme Court pick will certainly. Remember it was a 5-4 decision.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:11:24pm

re: #194 electrotek

Jesus Christ I see dumbass liberals are already starting to warm up to Trump by claiming he was just faking it.

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I’m guessing his plan is for everyone to just default. It’s his way.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:12:33pm
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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:12:39pm

re: #199 Nyet

Well the Dems will run on restoring Medicare.
If they don’t win then, well, I don’t know.

And how many olds will get sick, lose everything and die without insurance in the meantime?

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Weaselone  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:13:05pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

It’s also theoretically possible while he won’t touch gay marriage himself, his Supreme Court pick will certainly. Remember it was a 5-4 decision.

Either one of the justices that supported it would have to retire, or the Republicans would need to court pack for that to work. Replacing Scalia with another equally noxious specimen would not be sufficient. Hopefully, Ginsburg can hold on another 4 years.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:13:13pm

White Race Bannon?

Hmmmmmmmm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:14:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:14:08pm

re: #304 Weaselone

Either one of the justices that supported it would have to retire, or the Republicans would need to court pack for that to work. Replacing Scalia with another equally noxious specimen would not be sufficient. Hopefully, Ginsburg can hold on another 4 years.

Let’s hope so. Bad enough that he gets to pick Scalia’s after the shit show the GOP pulled on that.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:14:34pm

re: #303 BeachDem

And how many olds will get sick, lose everything and die without insurance in the meantime?

I’m sure Trump’s admin will record all stats.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:14:39pm

re: #306 Charles Johnson

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Yeah Falwell won’t like hearing that.

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Weaselone  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:15:23pm

re: #303 BeachDem

And how many olds will get sick, lose everything and die without insurance in the meantime?

Probably not many, as the convservatives probably won’t change medicare for those over 55.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:15:49pm

re: #306 Charles Johnson

It’s not up to him either… And an RvW-overturning judge would prolly also overturn Obergefell.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:16:03pm

Low of cat pictures, how about a duck?

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:16:16pm

Twitter, FB, LGF

Just wait ‘till we start showing up on the no fly list.
/

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:16:56pm

re: #284 electrotek

Oh who the fuck am I kidding…she is right.

This is going to be one long struggle for me. I got some self-hate I need to address for a long time.

Not even age helps. I really need to open up and address this to my family, friends, and relatives.

This fucking election has brought out the worst in everybody, including me. I make a point about Trump supporters in a bid to equate white privilege with other forms of privilege but in effect I end up looking like a bigot, no matter how much I rationalize it.

Fuck, I really need to take a good look at myself.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:17:11pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:17:23pm

re: #305 Joe Bacon

White Race Bannon?

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Need to add the goatee since if true Pence is the alternate universe evil version.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:19:07pm

“Stop it.” Yeah, that’s some leadership right there.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:19:25pm

re: #305 Joe Bacon

White Race Bannon?

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Please don’t tarnish my good memories of Race Bannon with that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:19:39pm

re: #316 Feline Fearless Leader

Need to add the goatee since if true Pence is the alternate universe evil version.

Alternate universe Pence is a nice guy who wonders why on earth anyone would have a problem with Mulan or think something as stupid that cigarettes don’t cause cancer. Just had to throw that out there since a lot of Republicans acted like Pence was “normal” when justifying their excuse that tehy’d write him in instead of Trump.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:19:50pm

The other thing I expect is to see over the next year is a lot of Republican states further tightening their voting restriction laws, and adding a few other tricks. They will be preparing for a possible 2018 wave.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:20:11pm

re: #317 teleskiguy

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“Stop it.” Yeah, that’s some leadership right there.

I’m sure the people spraying exhaust gas will take his message to heart. //

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:20:24pm

Because the traitorous GOP didn’t let Obama appoint his judge, that’s one for Trump, but that will be a replacement of Scalia, so no change.

IF RBG lives 2 more years and IF the Dems take the Senate in 2018, there’s hope.
Problem is, the math is not on the D side in 2018…

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Joe Bacon  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:20:25pm

re: #308 Nyet

I’m sure Trump’s admin will record all stats.

Criswell Bacon predicts that HHS will do the Brownback thing and not publish stats on how many people die because of ACA repeal…and the press won’t say a word about it…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:20:51pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:20:51pm

re: #320 Belafon

The other thing I expect is to see over the next year is a lot of Republican states further tightening their voting restriction laws, and adding a few other tricks. They will be preparing for a possible 2018 wave.

Or will MI, WI, and PA start with the electoral vote split up idea a’la NE?

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CuriousLurker  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:21:06pm

re: #312 Feline Fearless Leader

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It’s gorgeous, but it’s sporting a Trump ‘do. *grimace*

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:21:30pm

What a nightmare. What an awful twist of fate.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:21:40pm

re: #323 Joe Bacon

I was being semi-sarcastic.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:21:54pm

re: #326 CuriousLurker

It’s gorgeous, but it’s sporting a Trump ‘do. *grimace*

Given the other colors and such it’s more of a “fabulous” look than a Trump comb-over.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:22:17pm

re: #322 Nyet

Because the traitorous GOP didn’t let Obama appoint his judge, that’s one for Trump, but that will be a replacement of Scalia, so no change.

IF RBG lives 2 more years and IF the Dems take the Senate in 2018, there’s hope.
Problem is, the math is not on the D side in 2018…

Yeah 2018 is going to be tough. Typically midterms do favor the out of power party but the problem the Dems have is so many are up for re-election so the math doesn’t favor us and combine that with our known weak turnout in midterms and it’s very possible that the GOP could be looking at more Senate seats in 2018.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:22:54pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

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Fucking vile.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:23:59pm

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Have you ever talked to your own husband, Melania? The man who literally just last month told people to watch a porn video that didn’t exist with a woman who criticized him. Seriously, do you even know who you’re married ot?

Oh, I believe she does.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:24:43pm

re: #322 Nyet

Nyet, off topic but I do have a confession as well. It’s not just Sunnis I have made stupid generalizations about, but you’ve put me to task for the generalizations I’ve made about the French and you rightly called me out for it in the past.

I got some work to do on my end and I need to face it. I can’t condemn other people too much for having the worst come out of them post-election if I’m guilty of it myself.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:24:52pm

G’night folks. Going to read and then turn in early. Keep up the good fight, and enjoy the little things in order to keep morale up!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:24:59pm

I do have to concede this which I know is silly since 2020 is so long away but I had a fear that if Clinton had won, the GOP would be using the fact the Dems had 12 consecutive years in the WH and knowing how idiotic our electorate can be, it might have worked and that’s going to be a census year. That doesn’t make me feel any better though about Trump winning because well we’re seeing exactly what he intends to do.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:25:01pm

re: #332 BeachDem

Oh, I believe she does.

That’s why I don’t intend to give her slack.
Michelle Obama she is not. Not off limits.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:26:22pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:27:00pm

re: #303 BeachDem

And how many olds will get sick, lose everything and die without insurance in the meantime?

My girlfriend for sure.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:27:36pm

re: #337 Charles Johnson

As a symbolic gesture?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:27:36pm

re: #337 Charles Johnson

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Recess appointment right? Make it a liberal equivalent of Scalia who will mock their views of the Constitution the way Fat Tony did ours.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:27:59pm

re: #338 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My girlfriend for sure.

But at least there won’t be death panels….////

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:28:00pm

re: #304 Weaselone

Either one of the justices that supported it would have to retire, or the Republicans would need to court pack for that to work. Replacing Scalia with another equally noxious specimen would not be sufficient. Hopefully, Ginsburg can hold on another 4 years.

They’re planning to pack the court to 15 and appoint seven right-wing lunatics.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:28:40pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Recess appointment right? Make it a liberal equivalent of Scalia who will mock their views of the Constitution the way Fat Tony did ours.

I don’t think they will recess. The GOP won’t allow it to happen.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:29:08pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately there won’t be any recesses now until his term ends. Imagine that.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:29:09pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Recess appointment right? Make it a liberal equivalent of Scalia who will mock their views of the Constitution the way Fat Tony did ours.

Yes, a recess appointment. Assuming there’s a recess he can still do it in - I haven’t checked.

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ckkatz  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:29:11pm

There is a progression of red flags as predators ramp up. Rachel Maddow’s recent interview of Richard Engel went through a possible progression. While this one may not be fully accurate, it a good start:

“How to spot signs of authoritarianism’s creep”
msnbc.com

My apologies if this has already been posted.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:29:42pm

re: #344 GlutenFreeJesus

Unfortunately there won’t be any recesses now until his term ends. Imagine that.

Damn.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:29:59pm

re: #311 Nyet

It’s not up to him either… And an RvW-overturning judge would prolly also overturn Obergefell.

And Griswold and Eisenstadt and Loving and Lawrence—and probably Brown v. Board of Education, too.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:30:00pm

I’m just so full of fucking anger at everything post-election that I am losing my train of thought and being completely irrational.

At least I have an appointment with my psychiatrist to look forward to in a couple of weeks.

Fuck, 2016 has shaped up to be a horrible year and the next 4 years will shape up on how bad this decade will end.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:30:06pm

re: #315 VegasGolfer

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Damn, he is so fucking stupid. But we knew that all along.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:30:26pm

re: #343 Barefoot Grin

I don’t think they will recess. The GOP won’t allow it to happen.

Especially since the SCOTUS has already ruled that recess means both chambers have to say “Yeah, we’re going on recess, and we’re not planning on coming back so that the President can make appointments.”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:30:33pm

re: #344 GlutenFreeJesus

Unfortunately there won’t be any recesses now until his term ends. Imagine that.

Then we’re fucked.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:30:37pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

Yes, a recess appointment. Assuming there’s a recess he can still do it in - I haven’t checked.

Apparently there’s not a recess between now and January. I was beyond furious when they did what they did and tore into a certain Lizard we all know when he defended it as good for his party. It fucking worked much to my disappointment.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:30:54pm

re: #335 HappyWarrior

I do have to concede this which I know is silly since 2020 is so long away but I had a fear that if Clinton had won, the GOP would be using the fact the Dems had 12 consecutive years in the WH and knowing how idiotic our electorate can be, it might have worked and that’s going to be a census year. That doesn’t make me feel any better though about Trump winning because well we’re seeing exactly what he intends to do.

Dude, now it seems like we were fucked either way.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:31:13pm
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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:32:02pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Recess appointment right? Make it a liberal equivalent of Scalia who will mock their views of the Constitution the way Fat Tony did ours.

scotusblog.com

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:32:25pm

re: #315 VegasGolfer

Trump: If women can’t get abortions because Roe v. Wade is overturned, “they’ll have to go to another state.”

Little late to be contemplating how utterly stupid any Trump statement can be at any given moment. We are in the post-truth, post-smart, post-decency era. Welcome to The Age of Bandwidth.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:32:46pm

re: #354 electrotek

Dude, now it seems like we were fucked either way.

That’s just an opinion. A lot could have changed between now and 2020. I’m having a tough night. One thing I was hoping would prove a nice distraction from politics ended backfiring when the Cowboys came back and won in the last second. But that’s that. I’m going to return to reading more and my genealogical research. If conservatives get to set their policy based on the past, I at least want to learn about my ancestors woh lived in teh past.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:32:51pm

re: #352 Charles Johnson

Doesn’t the Senate term end on a specific day? He may still have a chance if that’s the case.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:32:55pm

re: #348 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s unlikely.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:33:10pm

re: #356 Nyet

scotusblog.com

Thanks.

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steve_davis  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:33:37pm

Listening to Goats Head Soup with Apple Music. Can someone explain to me how this album is considered lesser to Exiles on Main Street?

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:34:01pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

That’s just an opinion. A lot could have changed between now and 2020. I’m having a tough night. One thing I was hoping would prove a nice distraction from politics ended backfiring when the Cowboys came back and won in the last second. But that’s that. I’m going to return to reading more and my genealogical research. If conservatives get to set their policy based on the past, I at least want to learn about my ancestors woh lived in teh past.

Well, there’s the 90 minute Walking Dead episode to look forward to.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:34:06pm

re: #355 Charles Johnson

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Duke wants a Night of Long Knives against the media. This fucker is vile. I’d love for someone to kick his white supremacist ass.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:34:27pm

re: #352 Charles Johnson

Then we’re fucked.

Even if a recess appointment was probable (it is not), it would be for a limited time. So it’s “fucked” in any case.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:34:36pm

re: #363 electrotek

Well, there’s the 90 minute Walking Dead episode to look forward to.

Haven’t watched TWD actually. NEed to catch up on Shameless of else the Gallaghers are going to shame me :).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:35:56pm

You gotta love Graham floating around Cruz’s name for the vacancy when the GOP said Kagan was unqualified because she had never been a federal judge before. Granted Graham himself did vote for Kagan but many of his colleagues did NOT.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:36:00pm
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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:38:06pm

re: #368 teleskiguy

It was lovely tonight.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:38:28pm
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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:39:39pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

That’s just an opinion. A lot could have changed between now and 2020. I’m having a tough night. One thing I was hoping would prove a nice distraction from politics ended backfiring when the Cowboys came back and won in the last second. But that’s that. I’m going to return to reading more and my genealogical research. If conservatives get to set their policy based on the past, I at least want to learn about my ancestors woh lived in teh past.

I’m sorry the Steelers disappointed you. I’m a Cowboys fan and I would’ve been fine with them losing if it gave you a lift in your spirit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:40:59pm

re: #370 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:41:38pm

re: #371 No Depression

I’m sorry the Steelers disappointed you. I’m a Cowboys fan and I would’ve been fine with them losing if it gave you a lift in your spirit.

It’s okay man. Your guys did great. No hate for them. Have fun with Elliott and Prescott in the coming years, they’re going ot be a fun duo.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:42:10pm

re: #352 Charles Johnson

Then we’re fucked.

At least I think this is the case. If so. Yes. Royally fucked.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:42:57pm
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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:43:17pm

re: #373 HappyWarrior

It’s okay man. Your guys did great. No hate for them. Have fun with Elliott and Prescott in the coming years, they’re going ot be a fun duo.

Honestly, it’s gonna be hard to enjoy it with Trump in office. Blech.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:43:35pm

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Maybe we can dress up Biden like Trump and tell the real one that he’s been invited to judge a beauty paegant and then lock him in the White House basement. //

Hand him a phone, and tell him he’ll be running the country from his twitter account. Have the phone point to a fake twitter entirely made up of bots.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:44:46pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:46:37pm

Newt, in trying to clear someone of being anti-Semitic, said something anti-Semitic.

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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:46:45pm

re: #337 Charles Johnson

A nom that will never be taken up by Congress, just basically treating it as a protest.

I’m not feeling it.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:46:59pm

Instagram

Five years ago today Jamie Pierre lost his life in an avalanche. Here he is at Alta doing a front flip and a toxic grab. Apparently he broke his ski and landed it clean. Shred in peace Jamie. Thanks for sharing the picture @brentbensonphotography. #skiing #ski #legend #shredinpeace #freeski #alta

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:47:30pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:48:37pm

Thinking happy thoughts.

Instagram

Our friends @worstcrew finding the fresh in #Switzerland — something to keep Sunday moving.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:48:46pm

re: #374 GlutenFreeJesus

At least I think this is the case. If so. Yes. Royally fucked.

Only realistic hope is RBG lives at least 4 more years.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:49:08pm

re: #381 teleskiguy

I’m not sure if you posted it or if I may have saw it on my FB feed, but there are some ski resorts that have delayed opening resorts due to lack of sufficient snowfall.

And that is going to get worse as we get climate change denying idiots at the top of the White House.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:49:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:49:28pm

re: #376 No Depression

Honestly, it’s gonna be hard to enjoy it with Trump in office. Blech.

Yeah I know but sports are our distraction. I think that’s the real reason why I was so disappointed. I mean it would just be a week of temporary satisfaction but I really wanted that. It really was one of the better games though.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:50:19pm

re: #379 JasonA

Newt, in trying to clear someone of being anti-Semitic, said something anti-Semitic.

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Kind of like how Limbaugh called Obama Anti-Semitic for wanting Wall Street reform. Seriously, Newtie, just shut the fuck up.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:50:21pm

re: #384 Nyet

Only realistic hope is RBG lives at least 4 more years.

But I don’t believe she will. Because when it rains, it pours…

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:50:27pm

re: #385 electrotek

I’m not sure if you posted it or if I may have saw it on my FB feed, but there are some ski resorts that have delayed opening resorts due to lack of sufficient snowfall.

And that is going to get worse as we get climate change denying idiots at the top of the White House.

Oh I’m well aware. It’s already negatively affecting my job this winter.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:50:53pm

re: #382 JasonA

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Say something and never give one dime to the Republican Party again. Do something. Bannon bothers you. Fucking say something.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:52:02pm

Kasich’s campaign advisor:

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:53:17pm

So a friend and I watch an episode of Black Mirror every Sunday, then I watch the Walking Dead. Not happening tonight. I have no need for imagined dystopias for the foreseeable future. I am curious to see if they’re ratings are affected because of others who might feel the same.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:53:35pm

re: #392 Belafon

Kasich’s campaign advisor:

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Okay Weaver gets a smiley face mark from me since he’s not okaying Trump like so many Republicans are because he won. Kasich has to be bothered like hell since he did nothing for Trump and Trump won his state by a big margin. He should feel glad he’s leaving or else he’d probably have to legitimately worry about a WH sponsored primary challenger.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:54:48pm

re: #384 Nyet

Only realistic hope is RBG lives at least 4 more years.

Hopefully we can gain back a majority in the house or senate in 2 to head Trump off. But I’m not very hopeful of that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:54:50pm

I’m good now. Disappointment with the football game is out of my system. At the end of it all, it’s just a game and I have a lot of other good things going. Finally got my Lexapro refilled too so that should help. Maybe I’ve been a little on edge because I was out for a coupel days.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:54:54pm

re: #390 teleskiguy

Oh I’m well aware. It’s already negatively affecting my job this winter.

Yikes man, that seriously blows.

Tourists who flock to ski resorts during the winter, if they can’t acknowledge the reality of climate change, then not sure what else can be done.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:55:30pm

re: #395 GlutenFreeJesus

Hopefully we can gain back a majority in the house or senate in 2 to head Trump off. But I’m not very hopeful of that.

Math is against that.

If Trump fucks up big league enough… but don’t get your hopes up :(

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:56:14pm

At least the Steelers-Cowboys games was a sad for only half of us. That’s an improvement over the way a lot of the year has gone.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:57:54pm

re: #362 steve_davis

Listening to Goats Head Soup with Apple Music. Can someone explain to me how this album is considered lesser to Exiles on Main Street?

I’d have to go back. I just don’t remember it except for the main hits (and the Stones were about all I listened to in the late ’70s it seemed).

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CuriousLurker  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:58:16pm

I’m gonna call it a night.

If anyone experiences intimidation or harassment please let the SPLC know (after notifying local authorities, of course). Pass it on:

Later, lizards.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:58:18pm

re: #399 Belafon

At least the Steelers-Cowboys games was a sad for only half of us. That’s an improvement over the way a lot of the year has gone.

Yep. I actually don’t hate the Cowboys as much as some people do. Maybe it’s because the Steelers have beaten them in 2/3 SBs granted all before my birth but there are other teams in sports I dislike a lot more than Dallas including the local Redskins which if I ever said that to my cousins would probably get my ass kicked even if they agree with me politically, tehy love their Skins heh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:58:49pm

re: #401 CuriousLurker

I’m gonna call it a night.

If anyone experiences intimidation or harassment please let the SPLC know (after notifying local authorities, of course). Pass it on:

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Later, lizards.

Thanks CL. I’m glad we have groups like the SPLC out there. Great people. We’re going to need them.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:59:06pm

Did they think they just appear out of nowhere?
Did they think they were serfs who stay with the house?

THEY DID NOT THINK THEY WOULD WIN!
THIS IS THE PRODUCERS WITH A NUCLEAR ARSENAL!

I am so so sorry for the caps I won’t do it again please forgive me\

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 5:59:30pm

re: #351 Belafon

Especially since the SCOTUS has already ruled that recess means both chambers have to say “Yeah, we’re going on recess, and we’re not planning on coming back so that the President can make appointments.”

re: #380 TedStriker

A nom that will never be taken up by Congress, just basically treating it as a protest.

I’m not feeling it.

And the motherfuckers had already said that even if Hillary won, they had no plans to ever approve any of her court picks.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:00:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:01:18pm

I made contact with another distant relative though. This lady’s second great grandmother was an older sister of my third great grandfather all the way in Slovenia. And I’m finding out that Slovenia has a ton of records available. Unfortunately, you do have to write to people in Slovenia to get em but they’re there. When I started out, I never dreamed I’d get as far back as I have or meet the people I have. I think the next goal will be to do some traveling and walk in my ancestors footsteps. I’ve already sort of done that when I was in Galway, Ireland in college.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:01:29pm

This takes the Republican lack of desire to actually govern to whole new level.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:01:41pm

re: #408 JasonA

This takes the Republican lack of desire to actually govern to whole new level.

I mean, they have outdone themselves.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:01:48pm

re: #404 JasonA

Only silver lining in this item is Obama gets to influence the Pussygrabber a bit more.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:02:21pm
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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:02:25pm

re: #408 JasonA

This takes the Republican lack of desire to actually govern to whole new level.

Based on the appointment of Bannon, we’re going to see “Destroy the Republic” taken to a whole new level.

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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:02:38pm

re: #402 HappyWarrior

Yep. I actually don’t hate the Cowboys as much as some people do. Maybe it’s because the Steelers have beaten them in 2/3 SBs granted all before my birth but there are other teams in sports I dislike a lot more than Dallas including the local Redskins which if I ever said that to my cousins would probably get my ass kicked even if they agree with me politically, tehy love their Skins heh.

TBH, I hate the Ravens more than I do the Steelers, even though Cowboys-Steelers is probably the biggest interconference rivalry in the NFL.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:02:41pm

re: #410 Nyet

Only silver lining in this item is Obama gets to influence the Pussygrabber a bit more.

I wonder if these staffers will have to sign NDAs.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:02:44pm

re: #404 JasonA

Did they think they just appear out of nowhere?
Dis they think they were serfs who stay with the house?

THEY DID NOT THINK THEY WOULD WIN!
THIS IS THE PRODUCERS WITH A NUCLEAR ARSENAL!

I am so so sorry for the caps I won’t do it again please forgive me\

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Oh man, poor Obama. If Clinton had won, he’d probably do some of the necessary steps but Hillary’s been there before and she’s smart so she knows what it’s all about.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:02:57pm

re: #387 HappyWarrior

Yeah I know but sports are our distraction. I think that’s the real reason why I was so disappointed. I mean it would just be a week of temporary satisfaction but I really wanted that. It really was one of the better games though.

Hey—I know you hated them all along, but Trump even ruined my Patriots for me—they’re on right now and I don’t give a shit. Sigh.

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BigBadDemocrat  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:03:21pm

It was not long ago when this could not have happened

What did happen?

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:03:50pm

re: #414 JasonA

I wonder if these staffers will have to sign NDAs.

And billion-year contracts…

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:03:52pm

re: #415 HappyWarrior

Oh man, poor Obama. If Clinton had won, he’d probably do some of the necessary steps but Hillary’s been there before and she’s smart so she knows what it’s all about.

Yeah, but emails. What can you do? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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VegasGolfer  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:03:57pm

The stupidity of trump his staff and the people who voted for him is astounding.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:04:09pm

re: #418 Nyet

And billion-year contracts…

Are they Scientologists now?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:04:42pm

re: #413 No Depression

TBH, I hate the Ravens more than I do the Steelers, even though Cowboys-Steelers is probably the biggest interconference rivalry in the NFL.

I told my friend who’s a diehard Cowboys fan, just beat the Ravens next week and we’re square heh. Yeah Steelers-Cowboys is huge because of the three SBs and the teams have so many Hall of Famers between them and a lot of Steelers who are from Texas and a lot of Cowboys who are from Pittsburgh area, they showed a photo of Sean Lee as a kid wearing Steelers garb and of course Tony Dorsett was a Pitt alumnus.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:04:51pm

re: #420 VegasGolfer

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The stupidity of trump his staff and the people who voted for him is astounding.

I will say, I am impressed by this amount of dumbfuckery.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:04:51pm

I really wished my boss would have approved my time off from the 11th of November to after Thanksgiving so I could have gone overseas to escape this post-election madness, especially since I had planned on going to Dubai to celebrate my 32nd birthday tomorrow.

And now I’m stuck in this country and becoming a complete caricature of myself, becoming someone I hate.

I’m really upset at my boss for not approving it. Sure I have tomorrow off but that’s of little consolation considering that I’m still stuck here.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:05:09pm

re: #386 Charles Johnson

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Isn’t there a deposition or testimony or something from his ex-wife about how Bannon didn’t want his kids to go to school with the jooos? Of course, who ya gonna believe, written testimony or “if you quote what I actually said, you’re lying” Gingrich?

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:05:32pm

re: #425 BeachDem

Isn’t there a deposition or testimony or something from his ex-wife about how Bannon didn’t want his kids to go to school with the jooos? Of course, who ya gonna believe, written testimony or “if you quote what I actually said, you’re lying” Gingrich?

Why yes, yes there is.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:05:32pm

re: #406 Charles Johnson

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Tell me that’s not the John Bossy.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:06:42pm

This is just to piss you all off:

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:07:12pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:07:13pm

Throughout the campaign I was imagining the Galactic Empire.

Now I am imagining Spaceballs.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:07:15pm

re: #416 BeachDem

Hey—I know you hated them all along, but Trump even ruined my Patriots for me—they’re on right now and I don’t give a shit. Sigh.

I’m sorry that happened honestly. Sports are supposed to be our distraction from that. Don’t hate me but I’ve always disliked Brady and when I heard that he liked Trump, it sort of validated my dislike of the man. I don’t get him. His wife is a frigging immigrant and his son is sort of Hispanic (It’s disputed whether Brazilians are Hispanics or not since some people think the term only applies to people residing in Spanish speaking countries, others think it’s in all New World countries settled by peoples form the Iberian peninsula.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:07:43pm

re: #429 Belafon

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He fucking said this on live tv?

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:08:08pm

re: #429 Belafon

OK OK Trump, you win, we’ll take the popular vote winner as President this time, OK?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:08:32pm

Trump’s probably going to ask Obama if it’s okay if him and Barron ever play catch with the Nuclear Football or if he can show it off to the Super Bowl winners.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:09:09pm

re: #429 Belafon

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Well then you can concede to the actual popular vote winner, Donald. I won’t stop you!

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:09:20pm

re: #433 Nyet

OK OK Trump, you win, we’ll take the popular vote winner as President this time, OK?

December 1st, Trump announces that his EVs should go to the popular vote winner. //

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:10:00pm

re: #433 Nyet

OK OK Trump, you win, we’ll take the popular vote winner as President this time, OK?

Do the right thing, Donnie. We will hail you as a hero.

We will let you have a victory tour.

I will personally go to one of your rallies.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:10:07pm

re: #428 Belafon

This is just to piss you all off:

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Oh it’s going to be huge money for the media. Huge. It’s the reality showification of the WH.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:10:21pm

re: #408 JasonA

This takes the Republican lack of desire to actually govern to whole new level.

QFT

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:10:49pm

re: #437 JasonA

Do the right thing, Donnie. We will hail you as a hero.

We will let you have a victory tour.

I will personally go to one of your rallies.

I will personally go buy a Trump Taco Salad at the tower, and I’ll pay to fly in your jet to get there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:10:49pm

re: #436 Belafon

December 1st, Trump announces that his EVs should go to the popular vote winner. //

Wouldn’t that be hilarious?

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:10:50pm

re: #428 Belafon

Yeah, that was months ago, though. I blew off that steam.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:11:34pm

re: #437 JasonA

He’ll be given a medal for saving America! (From himself.)

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:11:36pm

re: #442 JasonA

Yeah, that was months ago, though. I blew off that steam.

OK. I’d like to ask her about that now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:11:53pm

re: #433 Nyet

OK OK Trump, you win, we’ll take the popular vote winner as President this time, OK?

Man, what if he’s setting it up to tell his Electors to vote for the PV winner? Inconceivable, but…he’s done what he set out to do, win the Presidency, he’s stupefied by the scope of the job…did I accidentally do a cup or two of LSD last year sometime? Is this for real?

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:12:06pm

re: #442 JasonA

Yeah, that was months ago, though. I blew off that steam.

Not to say that I let them off the hook. It’s just part of the outrage right now.

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BigBadDemocrat  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:12:57pm

Back when I only read a few blogs well while still in high school

Use to read here and many of the posters back then would have been Trump voters!

They are all gone from here now.
They are sure to be cheering all this crazy!
Very strange and a bit scary.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:13:07pm

re: #445 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Man, what if he’s setting it up to tell his Electors to vote for the PV winner? Inconceivable, but…he’s done what he set out to do, win the Presidency, he’s stupefied by the scope of the job…did I accidentally do a cup or two of LSD last year sometime? Is this for real?

This could be the most amaze-balls year to ever happen in human history. Possibly ending in American Civil War part 2, but there you have it.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:13:49pm

re: #445 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Man, what if he’s setting it up to tell his Electors to vote for the PV winner? Inconceivable, but…he’s done what he set out to do, win the Presidency, he’s stupefied by the scope of the job…did I accidentally do a cup or two of LSD last year sometime? Is this for real?

Maybe South Park was right all along. (For those who don’t watch, Mr. Garrison, who basically plays Trump, does not want to win the election and does everything in order not to, including insulting Hispanics, women, etc.).

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:14:44pm

“Bannon is going to be keeper of the image of Trump as a fighter against the status quo, and Reince is going to utilize his personal connections with the speaker and others, to make the trains run on time,” said Ken Blackwell, a former Ohio state official and a member of the Trump transition team.

I can’t. I can’t. I can’t.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:15:09pm

I’m gonna watch Walking Dead for some escapism.

And tomorrow I’m probably gonna suffer a nervous breakdown on my birthday.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:15:23pm

re: #447 BigBadDemocrat

LGF has grown and evolved, and Charles has all kinds of nifty tools at his dispersal to keep the joint troll-free. Believe me, I know what you speak of about the early days of LGF. It is what it is and as it turns out some of our most valuable Lizards were around in those days and are still around today.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:15:39pm

re: #450 JasonA

“Bannon is going to be keeper of the image of Trump as a fighter against the status quo, and Reince is going to utilize his personal connections with the speaker and others, to make the trains run on time,” said Ken Blackwell, a former Ohio state official and a member of the Trump transition team.

I can’t. I can’t. I can’t.

Oh come on!

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:16:39pm

Deportation trains, he means./

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:16:48pm

re: #453 HappyWarrior

Oh come on!

If you don’t want to be compared to fascists, you could at least avoid their language. Now you’re just doing our job for us.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:17:04pm

re: #452 teleskiguy

LGF has grown and evolved, and Charles has all kinds of nifty tools at his dispersal to keep the joint troll-free. Believe me, I know what you speak of about the early days of LGF. It is what it is and as it turns out some of our most valuable Lizards were around in those days and are still around today.

I have so much respect for Lizards who were once right wing who reevaluated where they stood ideologically. It was easier for me being a lifelong liberal than for you all who switched. In fact, I must say, I may even have more respect for those of you like that than some of my fellow longtime liberals who some times lose perspective.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:17:31pm

re: #455 JasonA

If you don’t want to be compared to fascists, you could at least avoid their language. Now you’re just doing our job for us.

I know, right? No way Blackwell’s not familiar with that line. Jeebus.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:17:47pm

re: #451 electrotek

I’m gonna watch Walking Dead for some escapism.

And tomorrow I’m probably gonna suffer a nervous breakdown on my birthday.

Mine is on Saturday.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:18:12pm

The Dictionary trolling could be in my top ten for 2016.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:18:14pm

re: #457 HappyWarrior

I know, right? No way Blackwell’s not familiar with that line. Jeebus.

He was just talking about Atlas Shrugged. //

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:19:26pm

re: #395 GlutenFreeJesus

Hopefully we can gain back a majority in the house or senate in 2 to head Trump off. But I’m not very hopeful of that.

Strangely, the House seems more doable. The cohort math is pretty much unworkable for the Senate, unless there’s a total Trump SHTF, and that would wreck a majority of Americans.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:19:48pm

It does give me some small comfort that people are looking these words up now. Would’ve given me more a week ago, but whatever.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:19:54pm

re: #459 JasonA

The Dictionary trolling could be in my top ten for 2016.

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I’m hoping all of the conservatives that looked those up, after reacting to them because Democrats said them, stared in horror at the realization of what their new found knowledge means.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:20:37pm

re: #452 teleskiguy

LGF has grown and evolved, and Charles has all kinds of nifty tools at his dispersal to keep the joint troll-free. Believe me, I know what you speak of about the early days of LGF. It is what it is and as it turns out some of our most valuable Lizards were around in those days and are still around today.

I’m glad the older posts aren’t deleted. It’s always great to see how this place evolved from 2001 onward and to show that repentence is always possible,

I used to hate, and I mean HATE, this site during the 2000s so much. I know it’s hard to believe now, but I used to view Charles Johnson in the same vein as Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller in those days. And I actually got banned from a forum I used to post on when Obama won in 2008 by laughing and gloating about the responses on here when that happened.

Of course, after Obama’s win and Charles Johnson’s highly publicized parting of the Right that made me into a staunch supporter of the site and its goals.

Granted I do deal with the usual nutcase that keeps bringing up the past associations with Islamophobes, but they’re tolerable. In many ways, this site did change me, but I still have much to improve.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:20:43pm

re: #461 Decatur Deb

Strangely, the House seems more doable. The triennial math is pretty much unworkable for the Senate, unless there’s a total Trump SHTF, and that would wreck a majority of Americans.

A majority in the House is going to be so fucking hard with the gerrymandering he would have to really fuck things up to… oh, hey, where’d our Medicare go?

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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:20:45pm

re: #430 JasonA

Throughout the campaign I was imagining the Galactic Empire.

Now I am imagining Spaceballs.

OMFG, imagining Trump as President Skroob does take the edge off a bit, especially since the reason the Spaceballs went after Druidia’s air was because they wrecked their own atmosphere/air supply:

Hail Trump Skroob!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:23:58pm

re: #457 HappyWarrior

I know, right? No way Blackwell’s not familiar with that line. Jeebus.

They think they’re so clever and subtle—no stupid libtards could possibly pick up on their dogwhistles.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:24:02pm

re: #466 TedStriker

OMFG, imagining Trump as President Skroob does take the edge off a bit, especially since the reason the Spaceballs went after Druidia’s air was because they wrecked their own atmosphere/air supply:

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Hail Trump Skroob!

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:24:10pm

Those of you Lizards who know Gus better than I do might want to reach out to him if you can. His twitter timeline is starting to get a little concerning to me.

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BigBadDemocrat  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:26:17pm

re: #469 Citizen K

What is wrong I’m new here and not up to date, health problems?

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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:26:35pm

re: #445 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Man, what if he’s setting it up to tell his Electors to vote for the PV winner? Inconceivable, but…he’s done what he set out to do, win the Presidency, he’s stupefied by the scope of the job…did I accidentally do a cup or two of LSD last year sometime? Is this for real?

Pence and the rest of the GOP would never stand for it.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:26:54pm

re: #469 Citizen K

He’ll be alright. He’s just venting. He does that from time to time, though admittedly he’s really going off tonight.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:27:08pm
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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:27:17pm

re: #468 teleskiguy

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“Why didn’t somebody tell me that my ass was so big?”

Yeah, that works for Trump, too.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:27:41pm

re: #470 BigBadDemocrat

What is wrong I’m new here and not up to date, health problems?

No, not so much that. Just a line of stream of consciousness tweets that has me concerned for his well-being.

re: #472 teleskiguy

He’ll be alright. He’s just venting. He does that from time to time, though admittedly he’s really going off tonight.

I’ll cede to you, since you probably know better than I.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:27:49pm

re: #429 Belafon

Translation: Holy shit. Presidenting takes actual
Work. Fuck this!

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:28:16pm

re: #474 TedStriker

“Why didn’t somebody tell me that my ass was so big?”

“Yeah, I’ll try this beaming thing. What the hell, it works on Star Trek.”

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:28:25pm

re: #471 TedStriker

Pence and the rest of the GOP would never stand for it.

How would the country react to the bait-and-switch of a Trump inauguration and a resignation?

I mean, there would be some sighs of relief, but that is fucking unconscionable.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:28:35pm

re: #469 Citizen K

Those of you Lizards who know Gus better than I do might want to reach out to him if you can. His twitter timeline is starting to get a little concerning to me.

I don’t know him off forum well but he’ll be okay. Just vents sometimes. He’s one of the good guys.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:28:49pm

re: #473 Kragar

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Perfect.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:29:23pm

re: #469 Citizen K

My advice to you is to just ignore him when his tweets are six words or less.

:-D

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BigBadDemocrat  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:29:28pm

re: #475 Citizen K

Thanks

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:29:45pm

re: #471 TedStriker

Pence and the rest of the GOP would never stand for it.

For the record I personally don’t care what Pence would or wouldn’t stand for. He is very much a part of this.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:30:05pm

re: #382 JasonA

Maybe it’s time for them to stop being private about their concerns.

Just a thought.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:30:11pm

FUCK YOU FROTHY

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:30:34pm

re: #469 Citizen K

Ignore. It’s regular and has to do with good whiskey, I hope :)

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:30:47pm

re: #424 electrotek

Early happy birthday. Try to think of something nice to do for yourself tomorrow. I know, as bitter and miserable as I am, I’m probably the wrong person to be playing cheerleader, but here I am anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:30:53pm

re: #465 JasonA

A majority in the House is going to be so fucking hard with the gerrymandering he would have to really fuck things up to… oh, hey, where’d our Medicare go?

I’m going to be curious to see how they blame us when things inevitably go wrong. Maybe the electorate won’t fall for it this time. The ball’s in your court Republicans. You’re in control.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:30:58pm

re: #484 Skip Intro

Maybe it’s time for them to stop being private about their concerns.

Just a thought.

1st Amendment: use it or lose it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:31:44pm

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

FUCK YOU FROTHY

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We are talking about Frothy who lauded the late Andrew Breitbart as a strong fighter for conservative values so it’s not surprising that Frothy thinks Bannon is great too.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:32:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:32:30pm

re: #486 Nyet

Ignore. It’s regular and has to do with good whiskey, I hope :)

I hope he comes back to post sometime. I enjoyed talking the Dubliners with him. You bringing up whiskey made me think of that.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:32:32pm

Watch them take the bait.

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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:32:50pm

re: #478 JasonA

How would the country react to the bait-and-switch of a Trump inauguration and a resignation?

I mean, there would be some sighs of relief, but that is fucking unconscionable.

Especially since it still leaves the GOP in the White House for the next four years, just with Pence Greg Stillson in the Oval Office.

We think we’re fucked now, we be doubly fucked if that came to pass, possibly topped off with a “cleansing hellfire”.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:33:19pm

re: #493 JasonA

Watch them take the bait.

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Very interesting.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:33:46pm

re: #426 JasonA

Why yes, yes there is.

Yep—here it is:

“The biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend,” Piccard said in her statement signed on June 27, 2007.

“He said that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews,” Piccard wrote.

mediaite.com

But Newt! (And will the media follow up on it? BENGHAZI!)

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:34:11pm

re: #494 TedStriker

Especially since it still leaves the GOP in the White House for the next four years, just with Pence Greg Stillson in the Oval Office.

We think we’re fucked now, we be doubly fucked if that came to pass.

Being spared a Trump Presidency could be a come-to-Jesus moment for me so I might not mind tbh

///s

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:34:20pm

re: #494 TedStriker

Especially since it still leaves the GOP in the White House for the next four years, just with Pence Greg Stillson in the Oval Office.

We think we’re fucked now, we be doubly fucked if that came to pass.

Pence taking over scares me more than Cheney taking over for Bush would have. Whereas Trump may accidnetly find a nut. Pence has no intention of finding any nuts and being a good soldier for movement conservatism.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:34:28pm

re: #475 Citizen K

I’ll cede to you, since you probably know better than I.

Gus is a Twitter fiend. I’ve been following him for years, and yeah at first it was frustrating. But he’s still an unspoken master of the medium. When he goes all stream-of-consciousness you’re allowed to take some steps back and let him do his thing. Tonight he’s pissed and I don’t blame him.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:34:29pm

re: #493 JasonA

Chucky probably furiously writing a BREAKING expose of ADL.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:35:15pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:35:21pm

re: #500 Nyet

Chucky probably furiously writing a BREAKING expose of ADL.

I’m sure it’ll be a big hit with all of his fans.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:35:25pm

re: #493 JasonA

Watch them take the bait.

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How can they not even think that it doesn’t matter if Bannon’s “official.” Trump will still hear from him.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:35:30pm

re: #494 TedStriker

Especially since it still leaves the GOP in the White House for the next four years, just with Pence Greg Stillson in the Oval Office.

We think we’re fucked now, we be doubly fucked if that came to pass.

There is a chance Trump will be influenced by Obama.

Pence? Fuggetit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:36:42pm

re: #500 Nyet

Chucky probably furiously writing a BREAKING expose of ADL.

They hopefully won’t give him a job, will they? I’d be amused if they don’t give him a job and knowing how spiteful he is, he turns Anti-Trump. I sure as hell don’t want him anywhere near our side but it would be hilarious to see him turn against them and start weird rumors about Bannon and co the way Bannon has condoned that shit at Breitbart. In otherwords, I want Bannon to get a taste of his own money. I want CCJ to be Trump’s Charles Guttieau without the whole killing part obviously.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:37:24pm

re: #487 BeachDem

Early happy birthday. Try to think of something nice to do for yourself tomorrow. I know, as bitter and miserable as I am, I’m probably the wrong person to be playing cheerleader, but here I am anyway.

I’m treating myself to a 5:30AM kidney stone snatch. That ought to take my mind off Trump for a while.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:37:36pm

re: #505 HappyWarrior

He’s too loose of a cannon even for them.

Dim Hoft and Pamz tho…

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:37:57pm
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Timothy Watson  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:38:11pm

re: #478 JasonA

How would the country react to the bait-and-switch of a Trump inauguration and a resignation?

I mean, there would be some sighs of relief, but that is fucking unconscionable.

Not to be contrary, but I don’t worry about Pence starting a nuclear war the war I worry about Trump starting one.

And all the Trumpers would be so upset about Trump screwing them over that they might just never vote again.

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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:38:17pm

re: #506 Decatur Deb

I’m treating myself to a 5:30AM kidney stone snatch. That ought to take my mind of Trump for a while.

Oh, ugh. Sympathy!

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:38:22pm

re: #450 JasonA

“Bannon is going to be keeper of the image of Trump as a fighter against the status quo, and Reince is going to utilize his personal connections with the speaker and others, to make the trains run on time,” said Ken Blackwell, a former Ohio state official and a member of the Trump transition team.

I can’t. I can’t. I can’t.

Nor can I. If you want to talk about the king of voter suppression and shenanigans, scumbag Ken Blackwell (Trump’s domestic policy man on the transition team) is your 100% go to guy. Vomit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:38:25pm

re: #507 Nyet

He’s too loose of a cannon even for them.

Dim Hoft and Pamz tho…

Not to mention Pamz and Dimmy were with Trump from the start. Chucky was all about the Cruz Express.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:38:38pm

The NeverTrumper reactions are my faves.

In truth, they have earned some respect from me. No we do not have that much common ground, but they’re on the right side of history. I give them a polite nod for being here in this long national nightmare.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:39:28pm

re: #509 Timothy Watson

Not to be contrary, but I don’t worry about Pence starting a nuclear war the war I worry about Trump starting one.

And all the Trumpers would be so upset about Trump screwing them over that they might just never vote again.

I also don’t see Pence keeping Bannon around. But in all other ways, he would be a nightmare as well.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:39:53pm

re: #508 electrotek

Why were the Rebels trying to destroy the Death Star instead of taking it over?

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:40:02pm

re: #508 electrotek

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Because white French and white Brits and white Nederlanders are all different. This is reductive culture in action.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:40:06pm

re: #513 JasonA

The NeverTrumper reactions are my faves.

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In truth, they have earned some respect from me. No we do not have that much common ground, but they’re on the right side of history. I give them a polite nod for being here in this long national nightmare.

I’m okay with them, Weaver, and even Glenn Beck. Those like Erickson who are mocking the protesters OTOH. Or Ryan who refused to even say Trump’s name now embracing him as an old and dear friend can fucking fuck off with Ted Nugent’s gun.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:40:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:42:18pm

I am all for finding allies where we can find them against Trump though. I don’t like Libertarians on economics at all for example but we might be able forge an alliance especially if Trump makes Rudy AG and Rudy pursues a nation wide stop and frisky policy and general hostility towards people’s rights. We gotta make friends where we can make them. We won’t always agree on everything but we should agree that we work together towards common goals. If in some places in WWII, right wing nationalists (yes, there were some that opposed the Nazis) could make common ground with communists to fight the Nazis, we can do that against Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:42:42pm

re: #518 Kragar

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:43:40pm

re: #517 HappyWarrior

I’m okay with them, Weaver, and even Glenn Beck. Those like Erickson who are mocking the protesters OTOH. Or Ryan who refused to even say Trump’s name now embracing him as an old and dear friend can fucking fuck off with Ted Nugent’s gun.

Some of them have a valid criticism of the protesters.

Listen, we’re looking at this from a pov where we can see what is happening. Where this can lead. We’re woke af

They argue that large swaths just don’t see the same picture we do, and they judge the protests as simply protesting the results.

I’m not saying I’m on-board with that line of thought, but I get the argument.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:43:50pm

re: #506 Decatur Deb

I’m treating myself to a 5:30AM kidney stone snatch. That ought to take my mind of Trump for a while.

Damn it dude. Hope you make a full recovery. You worked your ass off on this election and 2012. Hopefully, you enjoy some time off with your fam. If anyone deserves it, it’s you.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:44:21pm

re: #518 Kragar

Damn it, Kragar! Get this Santorum off of me!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:44:53pm

re: #519 HappyWarrior

I am all for finding allies where we can find them against Trump though. I don’t like Libertarians on economics at all for example but we might be able forge an alliance especially if Trump makes Rudy AG and Rudy pursues a nation wide stop and frisky policy and general hostility towards people’s rights. We gotta make friends where we can make them. We won’t always agree on everything but we should agree that we work together towards common goals. If in some places in WWII, right wing nationalists (yes, there were some that opposed the Nazis) could make common ground with communists to fight the Nazis, we can do that against Trump.

Our allies are in the 50% of the electorate that didn’t vote. If Trump voters who get screwed out of their medical care want to join our parade, they’re welcome to bring brooms and follow the mounted units.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:45:27pm

re: #521 JasonA

Some of them have a valid criticism of the protesters.

Listen, we’re looking at this from a pov where we can see what is happening. Where this can lead. We’re woke af

They argue that large swaths just don’t see the same picture we do, and they judge the protests as simply protesting the results.

I’m not saying I’m on-board with that line of thought, but I get the argument.

Well I took issue when Erickson said “Seeing the protesters makes me sympathize with Trump” or something like that. I understand that not everyone sees the protests the same way we do and hell even I would say, it was a bad image for some of them to burn flags on Veterans Day. Something I feel they have the right to do legally but a terrible PR iamge.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:46:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:46:32pm

re: #524 Decatur Deb

Our allies are in the 50% of the electorate that didn’t vote. If Trump voters who get screwed out of their medical care want to join our parade, they’re welcome to bring brooms and follow the mounted units.

Yep. We’re going to need all the allies that we need adn as pissed off as I am at the people who voted for Trump, if they’re legitimately pissed off at him, I’ll welcome them but I do hope they’ll have learned osmething.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:47:42pm

re: #506 Decatur Deb

I’m treating myself to a 5:30AM kidney stone snatch. That ought to take my mind of Trump for a while.

Seems a bit extreme, but whatever works. (good luck and much relief afterward.)

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:47:42pm

re: #526 Kragar

Genius.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:47:45pm

My family is in the fight with me. Even our ‘lost’ grand-daughter, lost to divorce, put a beautiful diatribe on FB. Got to spend more attention on that kid.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:47:49pm

re: #525 HappyWarrior

Well I took issue when Erickson said “Seeing the protesters makes me sympathize with Trump” or something like that. I understand that not everyone sees the protests the same way we do and hell even I would say, it was a bad image for some of them to burn flags on Veterans Day. Something I feel they have the right to do legally but a terrible PR iamge.

You’re right, I remember that. Dick comment. But most of them have been criticizing them without shrugging their shoulders and walking back to Trumpland.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:48:24pm

In the end though, I’m done with purity as some on the left want. And I’m definitely done with arguing about who should have been the nominee. Clinton was legitimately nominated. You can be disappointed that your choice wasn’t but we should be fighting for the future not the past so I’m hoping that come 2020, votes before 2016 are not held against people and they’re used to accuse them of not being real enough.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:48:35pm

re: #530 Decatur Deb

Fight over what?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:48:48pm

re: #531 JasonA

You’re right, I remember that. Dick comment. But most of them have been criticizing them without shrugging their shoulders and walking back to Trumpland.

That’s fair then.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:50:19pm

We need to spend the next four years deciding what it means to be a liberal in 2020 and beyond America. We are not, I repeat not always going to agree but we should have a core set of principles and flexibility as well.

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:50:40pm

re: #533 Nyet

Fight over what?

The resistance.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:51:03pm

I must say I really like ADL’s Greenblatt.
Foxman gave off the wrong vibes on occasion. Greenblatt is a truly modern leader fit for these times.

This means though that the right-wing will be even more dismissive of ADL than before.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:51:16pm

There’s one thing that LGF got me to look at: looking at the Israeli/Palestinian conflict from a different lens.

It made me realize the nuances associated with either side.

I used to be one of those people in the pro-Palestine side who would equate Zionism with everything bad and believe all Zionists are similar to Nazis. You know, the whole Zionism = Nazism shtick that many in the pro-Palestine camp engage in.

But after the site’s break from the Right, I saw that there are many in the pro-Israel camp that are opposed to Islamophobia (after all it were Jews who stood up for Bosnian Muslims early in the conflict), while realizing that many who claim to be pro-Palestine are just as complicit in Islamophobia and veneration of criminals like Milosevic.

It wasn’t immediate, it was gradual and took 3-4 years to completely realize it.

When the Gaza crisis occurred in July 2014, that’s when I officially adopted the position that I am not anti-Zionist, but anti-Likudnik.

I adopted the position in part to show that it is not right to say all Zionists are the same when it is not the case. And I don’t want to alienate those who are critical of Netanyahu the ilk as well.

Why am I telling you guys this? To show that this site itself can change the perceptions of many people, even while working with other flaws at the same time. This is a great site that should be commended for staying true to its values and not straying from it.

And also, it is making me recover from the meltdown I’ve experienced on social media by highlighting the positives.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:51:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:52:01pm

re: #537 Nyet

I must say I really like ADL’s Greenblatt.
Foxman gave off the wrong vibes on occasion. Greenblatt is a truly modern leader fit for these times.

This means though that the right-wing will be even more dismissive of ADL than before.

When did he replace Foxman? I do like what I have seen from the ADL too. Disturbs me that the RJC- Republican Jewish Committee is threatening them because they criticized Trump.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:52:17pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:53:06pm

re: #539 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, it’s too bad no one told them that you can’t always get what you want….

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:53:07pm

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:53:45pm

re: #540 HappyWarrior

Last year.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:54:03pm

re: #543 Ziggy_TARDIS

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God I hope not.

I dont want to live under Greece circa 1967.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:54:29pm

re: #538 electrotek

There’s one thing that LGF got me to look at: looking at the Israeli/Palestinian conflict from a different lens.

It made me realize the nuances associated with either side.

I used to be one of those people in the pro-Palestine side who would equate Zionism with everything bad and believe all Zionists are similar to Nazis. You know, the whole Zionism = Nazism shtick that many in the pro-Palestine camp engage in.

But after the site’s break from the Right, I saw that there are many in the pro-Israel camp that are opposed to Islamophobia (after all it were Jews who stood up for Bosnian Muslims early in the conflict), while realizing that many who claim to be pro-Palestine are just as complicit in Islamophobia and veneration of criminals like Milosevic.

It wasn’t immediate, it was gradual and took 3-4 years to completely realize it.

When the Gaza crisis occurred in July 2014, that’s when I officially adopted the position that I am not anti-Zionist, but anti-Likudnik.

I adopted the position in part to show that it is not right to say all Zionists are the same when it is not the case. And I don’t want to alienate those who are critical of Netanyahu the ilk as well.

Why am I telling you guys this? To show that this site itself can change the perceptions of many people, even while working with other flaws at the same time. This is a great site that should be commended for staying true to its values and not straying from it.

And also, it is making me recover from the meltdown I’ve experienced on social media by highlighting the positives.

Respect. We all grow in some ways. By the way, I believe you and Ziggy have had a lot of legitimate concerns about the Serbian government too. Zig had in teh past though to his credit hasn’t generalized the Serbian people as much anymore. I just wanted to point that my late grandfather’s best friend, a Serbian-American happily voted against Trump and for Clinton. And I myself am an American of Yugoslavian descent. In America, we should be able to look past a lot of the old hatreds and learn to live and love together. I’m part Irish as well and two of my cousins have married Englishmen and my British cousins in law are two of the best guys I know.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:54:49pm

re: #543 Ziggy_TARDIS

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:54:58pm

re: #544 Nyet

Last year.

Thanks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:55:08pm
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Romantic Heretic  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:55:08pm

re: #508 electrotek

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That’s because all alt-right groups are intensely nationalistic. They ‘want their countries back’. They don’t want the EU in control even if it’s the crazy right controlling it.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:55:22pm

re: #533 Nyet

Fight over what?

The thousand-year fight against the darkness.

They go saying each: “I am one of many”;
Their hands empty save for history.
They die at bridges, bridge gates, and drawbridges.
Remember now there were others before;
The sepulchres are full at ford and bridgehead.
There will be children with flowers there,
And lambs and golden-eyed lions there,
And people remembering in the future.

—Rexroth
From the Paris Commune to the Kronstadt Rebellion

bopsecrets.org

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:55:41pm

re: #543 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Dunno. We’ve never seen anything like that here. This election really has thrown conventional wisdom on its head in the worst possible ways.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:55:42pm

re: #545 electrotek

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:55:57pm

re: #545 electrotek

God I hope not.

I dont want to live under Greece circa 1967.

Well, I would not want to live under Greece circa 2015.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:56:13pm

re: #549 The Vicious Babushka

I think it’s wrong. No need to help turning your country into a banana republic.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:57:21pm

re: #553 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Portugal you meant. I don’t know. The advantage there was the military had enough of the dictatorship. Trump isn’t a dictator. He’s a cretin but he’s not an autocrat.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:57:41pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:58:05pm

re: #556 HappyWarrior

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:58:16pm

re: #543 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Pray not. It would be as big a nightmare as the coup of 17 July 1936.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:58:27pm

re: #549 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah I think that’s going too far. If Obama did that, things could get really ugly and I doubt Obama wants to go down in history that way. We have to accept the legitimacy of the results while at the same time fighting what Trump wants to do if that makes any sense.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 6:59:05pm

re: #558 Ziggy_TARDIS

He’s headed there.

I don’t doubt it but Estado Nodo had been in charge over 40 years when the coup happened.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:00:11pm

re: #559 William Lewis

Pray not. It would be as big a nightmare as the coup of 17 July 1936.

I’ve had this idea of writing a short story set in the Spanish Civil War about two friends who join the opposing sides. I haven’t really given ti too much though since I don’t know enough about the Spanish Civil War to write such a story.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:00:41pm

re: #562 HappyWarrior

I’ve had this idea of writing a short story set in the Spanish Civil War about two friends who join the opposing sides. I haven’t really given ti too much though since I don’t know enough about the Spanish Civil War to write such a story.

Make it the American Civil War.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:01:04pm

re: #549 The Vicious Babushka

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That would be bad. The problem is that everything is bad. Is that the worst option? Is it worse than a Trump Presidency? Probably. I just don’t know.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:01:17pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:01:42pm
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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:01:47pm

I’m reaching the point where I’m passed the “I’m scared of this happening.” I’ve reached the point where I’m going to try to figure out what I can do to keep X from happening.

I think one of the things I’m going to do is ask one of my coworkers who I’m sure voted for Trump, if he voted, what he thinks of Steve Bannon, and challenge him to find out who Bannon is.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:02:03pm

re: #563 The Vicious Babushka

Make it the American Civil War.

I really think the issues we’re dealing with as a country relate more to Spain 80 years ago than the US 160 to be honest.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:02:15pm
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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:02:26pm

re: #527 HappyWarrior

Yep. We’re going to need all the allies that we need adn as pissed off as I am at the people who voted for Trump, if they’re legitimately pissed off at him, I’ll welcome them but I do hope they’ll have learned osmething.

Nope—I’m not there. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. Especially when they’re going to be pissed off at him because he’s LESS draconian than they’d hoped.

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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:02:29pm

re: #556 HappyWarrior

Portugal you meant. I don’t know. The advantage there was the military had enough of the dictatorship. Trump isn’t a dictator. He’s a cretin but he’s not an autocrat.

Agreed. I honestly don’t think things are gonna get that bad. I think a Trump administration will be like a diet version of a Middle Eastern police state. There’ll be lots of corruption and repressive policing, but voting will remain free and fair, except for the voter suppression efforts we’re already seeing in red states.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:03:37pm

re: #570 BeachDem

Nope—I’m not there. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. Especially when they’re going to be pissed off at him because he’s LESS draconian than they’d hoped.

Not them but I know some people who I have vastly different economic views who are concerned about Trump’s criminal justice views.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:03:43pm

re: #568 HappyWarrior

I really think the issues we’re dealing with as a country relate more to Spain 80 years ago than the US 160 to be honest.

I think it’s a do-over for the butthurt losers of the Confederacy.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:04:26pm

re: #537 Nyet

I must say I really like ADL’s Greenblatt.
Foxman gave off the wrong vibes on occasion. Greenblatt is a truly modern leader fit for these times.

This means though that the right-wing will be even more dismissive of ADL than before.

Yeah, just wait till “blood libel” Palin gets her cabinet appointment. Shudder.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:04:54pm

re: #569 Nyet

washingtonpost.com

The question becomes: Should he try just to see if they would block him? Can you imagine what Republican voters would do if they let Garland in?

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:04:57pm

re: #562 HappyWarrior

I’ve had this idea of writing a short story set in the Spanish Civil War about two friends who join the opposing sides. I haven’t really given ti too much though since I don’t know enough about the Spanish Civil War to write such a story.

The Battle for Spain: The Spanish Civil War 1936-1939
by Antony Beevor
will teach you enough for short story work. That and Orwell’s Homage ot Catalonia are probably the best English language starting points.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:05:06pm

re: #543 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yellowstone Supervolcano.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:05:12pm

re: #565 Charles Johnson

Disagree. Obama is a better man than most of us, and he’s putting country before other considerations. That floundering would likely cause us even more suffering.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:06:14pm

re: #573 The Vicious Babushka

I think it’s a do-over for the butthurt losers of the Confederacy.

Bill can explain it better than I can but like Spain 80 years ago, it’s a battle against the forces of modernity and the forces of the old ways. Plus, how many short stories have there been about the U.S. Civil War versus Spanish Civil? Granted, that’s because we’re Americans and not Spanish but the Spanish Civil War has always got my imagination. And frankly a lot of the divide in the Civil War here was heavily regional. In Spain, I don’t think it was so much like that. But again, that’s why I need to read more. I have Beevor’s book and Orwell’s Homage ot Catalonia but I haven’t read anything else.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:06:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:07:09pm

re: #576 William Lewis

The Battle for Spain: The Spanish Civil War 1936-1939
by Antony Beevor
will teach you enough for short story work. That and Orwell’s Homage ot Catalonia are probably the best English language starting points.

I have read both of those but not in a while. Beevor’s book is excellent and so helpful since he has a list of all the various factions at the beginning. When reading about the war, it can be so easy to lose track of whom is whom.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:07:18pm

re: #579 HappyWarrior

At this point, if your are anti-fascist and of able mind, people should start buying guns.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:07:54pm

Fuck you, granny-killer.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:08:10pm

re: #580 Charles Johnson

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Yeah I can’t believe that. JEsus. Just wait until he gives Sessions a key job, Sessions is worse than Bannon since he’s got Bannon’s racist history but with experience.

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:08:14pm

Obama has already seemingly convinced the Sex Predator not to bury ACA as a whole.
I think the more time he spends with the easily manipulable Overgrown Orange Baby, the better. Maybe some of the more woeful decisions won’t be made or will be weakened.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:08:30pm
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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:09:07pm

re: #551 Decatur Deb

The thousand-year fight against the darkness.

The birds they sang
at the break of day
Start again
I heard them say
Don’t dwell on what
has passed away
or what is yet to be.
Ah the wars they will
be fought again
The holy dove
She will be caught again
bought and sold
and bought again
the dove is never free.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That’s how the light gets in.

I can’t run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they’ve summoned, they’ve summoned up
a thundercloud
and they’re going to hear from me.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That’s how the light gets in.

Leonard Cohen
Anthem

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:09:12pm

re: #583 JasonA

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Fuck you, granny-killer.

Dude, you couldn’t even say his name when you were voting for him and you want them to feel at ease. Go fuck off with Ayn Rand’s books in a ditch alone, Pauly.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:09:12pm

re: #578 We’re Way Beyond Snark

Disagree. Obama is a better man than most of us, and he’s putting country before other considerations. That floundering would likely cause us even more suffering.

I don’t think there’s any way to make this worse. If anything, having him flounder around trying to hire staff would at least delay the horrible shit he’s planning to implement.

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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:09:16pm

re: #562 HappyWarrior

I’ve had this idea of writing a short story set in the Spanish Civil War about two friends who join the opposing sides. I haven’t really given ti too much though since I don’t know enough about the Spanish Civil War to write such a story.

For Whom the Bells Toll by Ernest Hemingway might be good for inspiration. It follows an American fighting for the Republicans, but I don’t know how historically accurate it is, though.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:09:23pm

re: #583 JasonA

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Fuck you, granny-killer.

I kind of get the impression Ryan is saying “It’ll be easier if you just lie back and take it.”

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:09:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:10:33pm

re: #590 No Depression

For Whom the Bells Toll by Ernest Hemingway might be good for inspiration. It follows an American fighting for the Republicans, but I don’t know how historically accurate it is, though.

Yeah I’ve been to read that one. That sounds good. I’m not trying to be 100% historically accurate but I want to get basic things right of course. I found that when I took creative writing last spring, all my stories were set in the past.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:10:47pm
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Kragar  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:11:12pm
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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:11:36pm

re: #567 Belafon

I’m reaching the point where I’m passed the “I’m scared of this happening.” I’ve reached the point where I’m going to try to figure out what I can do to keep X from happening.

I think one of the things I’m going to do is ask one of my coworkers who I’m sure voted for Trump, if he voted, what he thinks of Steve Bannon, and challenge him to find out who Bannon is.

Yeah, I’m kind of looking forward to asking my Jewish wingnut brother what he thinks of Bannon—bro talks a good game, but doesn’t do his homework very often.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:11:41pm

re: #589 Charles Johnson

I don’t think there’s any way to make this worse. If anything, having him flounder around trying to hire staff would at least delay the horrible shit he’s planning to implement.

Well, he’ll still be floundering, but I hate to think of his (their) trying to do it without any idea of what needs to be done.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:12:06pm

re: #595 Kragar

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And yet you want to appoint a court that will overturn Roe v Wade…

These things…oh fuck it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:12:57pm

re: #594 JasonA

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Bannon’s a Nazi Confederate fuckwit.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:13:08pm

EMAILS BENGHAZI EMAILS BENGHAZI EMAILS BENGHAZI

White Natio-what now? Pfft.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:13:21pm

re: #569 Nyet

washingtonpost.com

All the crew-rest and flight hour restrictions on The Magical Balance Fairy have been suspended.

Today, the system seems to be broken. Both parties are at fault, seemingly locked in a death spiral to outdo the other in outrageous behavior.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:13:57pm

re: #582 Ziggy_TARDIS

At this point, if your are anti-fascist and of able mind, people should start buying guns.

You are getting way ahead of yourself and events.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:14:04pm

re: #591 Belafon

I kind of get the impression Ryan is saying “It’ll be easier if you just lie back and take it.”

And Santorum is saying: “No condoms!”

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:14:09pm

re: #601 Decatur Deb

All the crew-rest and flight hour restrictions on The Magical Balance Fairy have been suspended.

Today, the system seems to be broken. Both parties are at fault, seemingly locked in a death spiral to outdo the other in outrageous behavior.

Nah, that was from April.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:14:19pm

re: #601 Decatur Deb

All the crew-rest and flight hour restrictions on The Magical Balance Fairy have been suspended.

Today, the system seems to be broken. Both parties are at fault, seemingly locked in a death spiral to outdo the other in outrageous behavior.

May the MBF die a slow and painful death these next four years. It won’t though because there will always be dicks like Glenn Greenwald out there.

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:14:28pm

re: #581 HappyWarrior

I have read both of those but not in a while. Beevor’s book is excellent and so helpful since he has a list of all the various factions at the beginning. When reading about the war, it can be so easy to lose track of whom is whom.

It’s important to remember that some of the factions changed - the Falage at the beginning was quite different from the public face that Franco massaged it into later.

But yes, it was those who wanted to live in the 20th century vs those who wanted the 17th. The 17th won and Spain’s economy is still recovering in some ways and people are still digging up mass graves and plastering over the bullet holes in the cemetery walls where the political prisoners & people pulled out of their homes at midnight by the Guardia Civil were dragged for their murders.

Perhaps that’s the hook for your story - one of your two, at the end of the war, is in the GC and leading a death squad that arrests the other one. Then flashback time? Or something like An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge?

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Nyet  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:14:38pm

re: #601 Decatur Deb

The more interesting the advice, as it comes from a centrist.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:15:23pm

re: #597 We’re Way Beyond Snark

Well, he’ll still be floundering, but I hate to think of his (their) trying to do it without any idea of what needs to be done.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine all the other stuff that goes along with being president that he’s never even thought about, or prepared in any way to handle.

Not knowing how to hire White House staff is just the beginning.

Goddammit.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:15:29pm

re: #602 Unshaken Defiance

You are getting way ahead of yourself and events.

Agreed.

Prices should be coming down soon since there won’t be an imaginary gun-grabber in the White House to drive sales.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:15:32pm

re: #571 No Depression

Agreed. I honestly don’t think things are gonna get that bad. I think a Trump administration will be like a diet version of a Middle Eastern police state. There’ll be lots of corruption and repressive policing, but voting will remain free and fair, except for the voter suppression efforts we’re already seeing in red states.

You are 100% more optimistic than I am. I think it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions, with the social safety net decimated, environmental regulations gutted, Wall Street unfettered, women’s rights shitcanned, foreign policy creating more animosity toward the US than at any time in history—and then there’s the Supreme Court…

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:16:08pm

re: #590 No Depression

For Whom the Bells Toll by Ernest Hemingway might be good for inspiration. It follows an American fighting for the Republicans, but I don’t know how historically accurate it is, though.

Hollywood level accurate. Orwell is a much better source.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:16:38pm
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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:16:48pm

re: #608 Charles Johnson

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine all the other stuff that goes along with being president that he’s never even thought about, or prepared in any way to handle.

Not knowing how to hire White House staff is just the beginning.

Goddammit.

We are a laughingstock.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:17:35pm

re: #610 BeachDem

You are 100% more optimistic than I am. I think it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions, with the social safety net decimated, environmental regulations gutted, Wall Street unfettered, women’s rights shitcanned, foreign policy creating more animosity toward the US than at any time in history—and then there’s the Supreme Court…

I honestly am concerned about how far they might go with domestic spying, too.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:18:33pm

All of our worst-case scenarios depend on the abolition of the filibuster. I’m still not 100% sure they’re going to do that. They do have the memory of eight years in the wilderness, after all. There might be a few cooler heads to prevail — it wouldn’t take many, given the current makeup of the Senate. (Yes, I realize I’m being a hopeless optimist. Deal with it.)

The medicare and social security bills have to get through the House — which is up for reelection every two years. Will the Florida Republication delegation go along with it, for example? (And so on — if you assume all Democrats oppose it, there would need to be something like 25 Republicans voting against it. Not a huge number.)

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:18:42pm

oh fuck no

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:18:50pm

re: #609 JasonA

Agreed.

Prices should be coming down soon since there won’t be an imaginary gun-grabber in the White House to drive sales.

Already starting since the mfgs had built up for a big demand that isn’t there. Feb/March will be a good time to buy a new AR or AK type rifle.

I’ll stick to my lever action.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:18:53pm

re: #572 HappyWarrior

Not them but I know some people who I have vastly different economic views who are concerned about Trump’s criminal justice views.

But they voted for him anyway, so obviously they weren’t that concerned. Sorry (not sorry)—maybe I’ll have more compassion in my heart at a later date (doubtful), but it’s been less than a week; he’s not even in office yet, and I still think anyone who voted for him is an unforgivable fuckwit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:19:40pm

re: #606 William Lewis

It’s important to remember that some of the factions changed - the Falage at the beginning was quite different from the public face that Franco massaged it into later.

But yes, it was those who wanted to live in the 20th century vs those who wanted the 17th. The 17th won and Spain’s economy is still recovering in some ways and people are still digging up mass graves and plastering over the bullet holes in the cemetery walls where the political prisoners & people pulled out of their homes at midnight by the Guardia Civil were dragged for their murders.

Perhaps that’s the hook for your story - one of your two, at the end of the war, is in the GC and leading a death squad that arrests the other one. Then flashback time? Or something like An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge?

Yeah, that’s true. Man, that’s just crazy to think about it. I really enjoyed my time there a couple years back. Beautiful country. I remember seeing Catalan flags in Barcelona and Basque graffiti in Pamplona. Like the idea for the start of the story, I’ll have to think about that. IT does sort of feed what I’m thinking and VB, why it would be hard to set this in the American Civil War because the Union and Confederates were more considerate with some exceptions i.e. Andersonville and how black POWs were treated to each other’s prisoners and prisoners exchanged often.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:21:22pm

re: #618 BeachDem

But they voted for him anyway, so obviously they weren’t that concerned. Sorry (not sorry)—maybe I’ll have more compassion in my heart at a later date (doubtful), but it’s been less than a week; he’s not even in office yet, and I still think anyone who voted for him is an unforgivable fuckwit.

I’m not talking about people who voted for him when I talk about those types. The types that voted for him, I’m going to view with a lot of suspicion as soon as they come gring to us. I’m just saying we won’t be able to stop his agenda with just the people who voted for Hillary and some of the peopel who will help us may not have been been able to vote yet because of age or citizenship status.

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JasonA  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:21:35pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:21:38pm

re: #615 We’re Way Beyond Snark

I can think of 2 who might break. Sasse and Collins.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:22:01pm

re: #583 JasonA

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White, male granny-killer.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:22:40pm

re: #613 JasonA

We are a laughingstock.

Toddler with a grenade.

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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:22:51pm

re: #610 BeachDem

You are 100% more optimistic than I am. I think it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions, with the social safety net decimated, environmental regulations gutted, Wall Street unfettered, women’s rights shitcanned, foreign policy creating more animosity toward the US than at any time in history—and then there’s the Supreme Court…

I know all that’s going to happen; I wasn’t trying to minimize things at all. Things will be bad, no doubt.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:23:37pm
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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:24:33pm

re: #616 JasonA

Do you subscribe to any of them? Let them know what you think. Over and over again. (How long were you in shock after the election results were announced? Maybe we can kick them into wakefulness. Worth a try, anyway.)

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:25:50pm

re: #618 BeachDem

But they voted for him anyway, so obviously they weren’t that concerned. Sorry (not sorry)—maybe I’ll have more compassion in my heart at a later date (doubtful), but it’s been less than a week; he’s not even in office yet, and I still think anyone who voted for him is an unforgivable fuckwit.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:26:37pm

re: #601 Decatur Deb

All the crew-rest and flight hour restrictions on The Magical Balance Fairy have been suspended.

Today, the system seems to be broken. Both parties are at fault, seemingly locked in a death spiral to outdo the other in outrageous behavior.

What exactly did the Fairy say has been the Dems’ outrageous behavior? Or do I really not want to know.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:26:38pm

re: #622 Ziggy_TARDIS

I can think of 2 who might break. Sasse and Collins.

I do wonder about Collins. She’s sort of in a otugh spot since that one district went to Trump. I mean I think she’s got enough of a conscience to do the right in opposing Trump but at the same time, I do wonder if it could mean she’d get primaried by LaPage down the road. Granted, that could mean a possibility for a Dem pick up in the Senate. Sasse, I wonder about too. He’s been very consistent in his Anti-Trump message but he too is in a tough spot now that Trump’s won. He and Trump will both be up for re-election at the same tin four years.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:27:18pm

re: #506 Decatur Deb

I’m treating myself to a 5:30AM kidney stone snatch. That ought to take my mind off Trump for a while.

Oh, and I forgot, I hope everything goes well (and quickly!).

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RandomMonster  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:27:24pm
You are 100% more optimistic than I am. I think it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions, with the social safety net decimated, environmental regulations gutted, Wall Street unfettered, women’s rights shitcanned, foreign policy creating more animosity toward the US than at any time in history—and then there’s the Supreme Court…

Don’t forget sucking up to nationalist crypto-fascists all over Europe, weakening the NATO alliance, and enabling Russia to do WhateverTF it wants, anywhere it wants to do it.

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Lidane  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:28:19pm

Oh, that’s helpful:

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:30:22pm

re: #622 Ziggy_TARDIS

I can think of 2 who might break. Sasse and Collins.

Living as I do in Democrat heaven (California), I don’t spend as much time studying the composition of the Senate, but I was thinking there might be some who are retiring soon and have something like a historical sense. Not all of them were elected last Wednesday, and it remains much harder to primary a Senator than a Congressman.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:31:08pm

re: #629 BeachDem

What exactly did the Fairy say has been the Dems’ outrageous behavior? Or do I really not want to know.

The Times writer introduced a discussion of the Merrick abuse with an MBF statement almost by rote, then discussed it without actually citing Dem “fault”.

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freetoken  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:32:44pm

re: #633 Lidane

“Apoplectic”??

They ought to be apocalyptic.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:33:36pm

re: #628 Decatur Deb

Cool—looking forward to it. Still haven’t heard from campaign kid and now my cell phone is borked.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:34:00pm

re: #631 We’re Way Beyond Snark

Oh, and I forgot, I hope everything goes well (and quickly!).

The Percocet has certainly smoothed out the last couple days of LGF. Even helps the typing.

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Lidane  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:35:01pm

re: #636 freetoken

“Apoplectic”??

They ought to be apocalyptic.

And they shouldn’t be hiding it behind closed doors. They need to be publicly outraged.

Hiring Bannon is the functional equivalent of hiring a more media savvy David Duke.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:35:07pm
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jaunte  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:35:30pm

Trump. What a lark.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:36:20pm

re: #639 Lidane

And they shouldn’t be hiding it behind closed doors. They need to be publicly outraged.

Hiring Bannon is the functional equivalent of hiring a more media savvy David Duke.

Duke without the baggage and with the media savvy. P-uke.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:36:48pm

re: #634 We’re Way Beyond Snark

Ones that could flip, based on retirement, or vulnerability.

Flake-Arizona
Heller-Nevada
Hatch-Utah
Collins-Maine
Sasse-Nebraska

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:37:13pm

re: #640 jaunte

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We need to find a way to counter this. The question is how. Trump winning was a huge defeat for those looking to stop the spread of the new fascism.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:38:53pm

re: #643 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ones that could flip, based on retirement, or vulnerability.

Flake-Arizona
Heller-Nevada
Hatch-Utah
Collins-Maine
Sasse-Nebraska

I don’t see Hatch’s seat being vulnerable. They may not vote for a Trumper to replace him but they will most certainly vote for a Republican. Flake is interesting though. Collins may have to worry about being primaried. Sasse too. Heller, I feel good about though I don’t know the who’s who in Nevada Dem politics but I think Nevada is on its way to becoming a solid Dem state.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:39:00pm
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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:39:39pm

re: #634 We’re Way Beyond Snark

Living as I do in Democrat heaven (California), I don’t spend as much time studying the composition of the Senate, but I was thinking there might be some who are retiring soon and have something like a historical sense. Not all of them were elected last Wednesday, and it remains much harder to primary a Senator than a Congressman.

Even Lindsey Graham (who is on Amorosa’s list!! for saying mean things about the yam) is sucking up to Trump now—praising his choice of Reince.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:40:02pm

re: #646 teleskiguy

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Sigh.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:40:21pm

re: #646 teleskiguy

Much more serious, still petulant about being less than 100% adored, still hasn’t read a book, doesn’t know he has to hire an entire White House staff.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:40:38pm

re: #647 BeachDem

Even Lindsey Graham (who is on Amorosa’s list!! for saying mean things about the yam) is sucking up to Trump now—praising his choice of Reince.

He’s also been pushing Cruz as a SC possibility. I don’t trust Graham at all.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:40:44pm

re: #645 HappyWarrior

I meant, Hatch is retiring. He might decide to, on the basis of legacy, decide to break ranks for the Filibuster.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:41:52pm

re: #651 Ziggy_TARDIS

I meant, Hatch is retiring. He might decide to, on the basis of legacy, decide to break ranks for the Filibuster.

Ohhhhh, may be. Hatch is hard to figure out honestly. I thought he was a decent person after I read about his relationship with Senator Kennedy but some of his actions the past eight years make me think he’s a genuine hack.

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Archangelus  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:41:58pm

re: #566 goddamnedfrank

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Haven’t had the time to start that yet, good show i take it?

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:42:00pm

re: #645 HappyWarrior

I don’t see Hatch’s seat being vulnerable. They may not vote for a Trumper to replace him but they will most certainly vote for a Republican. Flake is interesting though. Collins may have to worry about being primaried. Sasse too. Heller, I feel good about though I don’t know the who’s who in Nevada Dem politics but I think Nevada is on its way to becoming a solid Dem state.

One thing we in CA did accomplish with all that phone banking and canvassing in NV — we got a Democratic majority out of it.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:42:24pm

Apparently Trump isn’t the only non-reader up there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:43:10pm

re: #654 We’re Way Beyond Snark

One thing we in CA did accomplish with all that phone banking and canvassing in NV — we got a Democratic majority out of it.

Speaking of CA, I know she was just elected but Harris is someone that is going to be interesting to watch.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:43:31pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:43:41pm

re: #646 teleskiguy

“He was much more subdued, much more serious.”

“Subdued”—He didn’t grab my pussy.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:44:07pm

re: #658 Decatur Deb

“Subdued”—He didn’t grab my pussy.

She’s too old for him.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:44:22pm

re: #656 HappyWarrior

Speaking of CA, I know she was just elected but Harris is someone that is going to be interesting to watch.

I agree. We have great hopes for her.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:44:42pm

re: #646 teleskiguy

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Much more subdued = the drugs have kicked in
More serious = totally flummoxed that he actually might have to work

The bullshit is starting and will never stop.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:46:00pm

Ken Blackwell is an anti-gay fanatic from the Family “Research” Council.
rightwingwatch.org

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:46:03pm

re: #650 HappyWarrior

He’s also been pushing Cruz as a SC possibility. I don’t trust Graham at all.

And to make matters worse, Lindsey is on the Judiciary Committee.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:47:36pm

re: #660 We’re Way Beyond Snark

I agree. We have great hopes for her.

As you should.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:47:52pm

WHAT THE FUCK

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:47:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:48:11pm

re: #663 BeachDem

And to make matters worse, Lindsey is on the Judiciary Committee.

Is he the chair?

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:49:20pm

re: #662 jaunte

Ken Blackwell is an anti-gay fanatic from the Family “Research” Council.
rightwingwatch.org

And former ratfucking, vote suppressing, shenanigan coordinating Ohio Secretary of State. Yeah, he’s the slime at the bottom of the cesspool that the rest of the bottom-feeders scrape off their shoes because he’s so toxic.

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freetoken  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:49:37pm

re: #667 HappyWarrior

Is he the chair?

No. Grassley is.

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austin_blue  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:49:56pm

re: #647 BeachDem

Even Lindsey Graham (who is on Amorosa’s list!! for saying mean things about the yam) is sucking up to Trump now—praising his choice of Reince.

Graham would do anything to get Cruz out of the Senate.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:49:59pm

re: #660 We’re Way Beyond Snark

I used to like Loretta Sanchez years ago. She used to look out for our interests (air traffic controllers). Not sure what happened to her.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:50:18pm

It really seems to me that Trump is bringing al ot the worst establishment types with the worst types like Bannon to placate both sides. What all tehse people have in common though is they all loyally supported him throughout.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:50:31pm

re: #669 freetoken

No. Grassley is.

Agh ,thanks, he’s not much better.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:51:08pm

re: #671 VegasGolfer

I used to like Loretta Sanchez years ago. She used to look out for our interests (air traffic controllers). Not sure what happened to her.

You a former ATCer? I used to be an intern in the Dulles Airport tower when I was in high school. It was a very interesting job.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:51:40pm

re: #667 HappyWarrior

Is he the chair?

Even worse, Chuck Grassley

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:52:25pm

re: #675 BeachDem

Even worse, Chuck Grassley

Yeah, I see that. Damn.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:53:14pm

One name I’m seeing as a Supreme Court possibility I believe is William Pryor. One of my friends who is active in disability causes is worried about that one since Pryor has a hard on against the ADA- Biden’s baby too FWIW.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:53:20pm

re: #671 VegasGolfer

I used to like Loretta Sanchez years ago. She used to look out for our interests (air traffic controllers). Not sure what happened to her.

She can run for Feinstein’s seat, if she ever retires.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:54:46pm

re: #678 Skip Intro

She can run for Feinstein’s seat, if she ever retires.

I’m not in a position to say since I’m not a Californian but I really hope not, I don’t like what I know about Sanchez. It’s up to Californians though no me.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:55:40pm

re: #676 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I see that. Damn.

So sad—we have some of our best on that committee—Franken, Klobuchar, Blumenthal, Whitehouse etc—and they have, in addition to Grassley and Graham, Sessions, Cruz, Cornyn, Lee and more.

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ninja cat  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:55:40pm

Jim Wright has a post up on FB saying that awful sign at the demonstration may likely be photoshopped. I don’t know enough about it to say, though it struck me as weird it’s the only sign facing backwards. A posters comparison

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VegasGolfer  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:55:46pm

re: #674 HappyWarrior

Yeah. 26 years then retired in 2013. It was a great job. Got to live in great places like Monterey, Ca. Honolulu, San Deigo. Now live in Vegas.

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ninja cat  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:56:58pm

re: #666 teleskiguy

Scorpions, pseudo or otherwise, bother me more than just about anything.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:57:16pm

re: #680 BeachDem

So sad—we have some of our best on that committee—Franken, Klobuchar, Blumenthal, Whitehouse etc—and they have, in addition to Grassley and Graham, Sessions, Cruz, Cornyn, Lee and more.

Yeah I know, damn shame.

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No Depression  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:57:28pm

re: #677 HappyWarrior

One name I’m seeing as a Supreme Court possibility I believe is William Pryor. One of my friends who is active in disability causes is worried about that one since Pryor has a hard on against the ADA- Biden’s baby too FWIW.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:57:55pm

Promoted tweet.
The manufacturer’s lobby known as the NRA is worried that gun owners will stop panicking now that they’ve won.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:58:01pm

re: #682 VegasGolfer

Yeah. 26 years then retired in 2013. It was a great job. Got to live in great places like Monterey, Ca. Honolulu, San Deigo. Now live in Vegas.

Cool deal. It’s a job I really respect because I travel a lot and know I could never do it.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:58:15pm

re: #685 No Depression

Same here.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:58:35pm

re: #685 No Depression

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:59:04pm

re: #688 Ziggy_TARDIS

Same here.

Me too. Disability programs have really helped my employment search so much easier.

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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2016 • 7:59:38pm

re: #685 No Depression

Aren’t they going to want someone younger?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:00:07pm

re: #686 jaunte

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Promoted tweet.
The manufacturer’s lobby known as the NRA is worried that gun owners will stop panicking now that they’ve won.

All I can say is haw-haw. A lot harder to scare your idiotic membership now that they feel safe with a Republican in the WH. Face it NRA, you’re a bunch of frauds who care more about people being scared than protecting people’s rights.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:00:45pm

re: #692 HappyWarrior

Eternal Vigilance!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:01:24pm

re: #691 retired cynic

Aren’t they going to want someone younger?

54 isn’t that old for a Supreme Court pick.

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Lidane  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:04:20pm
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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:04:20pm

re: #694 HappyWarrior

54 isn’t that old for a Supreme Court pick.

Good heavens, I thought he was older than that. That’s a mere child. :<

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:04:34pm

re: #582 Ziggy_TARDIS

At this point, if your are anti-fascist and of able mind, people should start buying guns.

A lot of us already have guns for various reasons. You’re certainly free to join in but the political situation itself is not a reason for doing so, nowhere close in fact.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:05:13pm

re: #696 retired cynic

Good heavens, I thought he was older than that. That’s a mere child. :<

I think you probably imagined he was older since he was pretty young when he was Alabama’s AG.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:06:36pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:10:18pm

re: #694 HappyWarrior

54 isn’t that old for a Supreme Court pick.

Yes, but they could just as well go with some 25 year old dipshit straight out of Liberty U ‘law school’. Or some skeevy bottom dweller that served well in the voter suppression efforts in MI, WS or PA.

It’s not as if conservatives give a fuck about law as a profession, and the media will give them a free pass for anything.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:11:38pm

re: #700 EPR-radar

Yes, but they could just as well go with some 25 year old dipshit straight out of Liberty U ‘law school’. Or some skeevy bottom dweller that served well in the voter suppression efforts in MI, WS or PA.

It’s not as if conservatives give a fuck about law as a profession, and the media will give them a free pass for anything.

You’re not kidding. When I heard Thiel was seriously being considered, it showed any bets were on. I am just saying that he’s not as old as RC thinks.

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electrotek  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:15:22pm

re: #546 HappyWarrior

Respect. We all grow in some ways. By the way, I believe you and Ziggy have had a lot of legitimate concerns about the Serbian government too. Zig had in teh past though to his credit hasn’t generalized the Serbian people as much anymore. I just wanted to point that my late grandfather’s best friend, a Serbian-American happily voted against Trump and for Clinton. And I myself am an American of Yugoslavian descent. In America, we should be able to look past a lot of the old hatreds and learn to live and love together. I’m part Irish as well and two of my cousins have married Englishmen and my British cousins in law are two of the best guys I know.

Yeah to be fair, even though I don’t like to hold collective responsibility toward anybody, the way I deliver the message would run contradictory to my belief.

I don’t want to hold all of Serbia responsible for what happened, because I fully realize that there is a sizable minority who doesn’t deny the crimes committed. And if I meet a Serb or Greek or Assyrian or Chaldean or [insert any group that has victimized Muslims], I would still prefer to give them benefit of the doubt instead of just brushing them off.

It’s not like I would want all of Serbia bombed for even more punishment for its crimes. What’s done is done. I just wish they would acknowledge their crimes, but hopefully they eventually will, even if it takes another 100 years for it.

To add, it has also exposed an ugly side of me after the election. The side where I would love nothing more to see Middle Eastern Christians or Iranians who voted for Trump to suffer, and suffer at the hands of those whom they feel are their allies for their misguided vote. The video I posted yesterday of an Assyrian woman being degraded by someone for speaking the language was a powderkeg for me, as I went ballistic and started being “joyful” even at seeing poetic justice being enforced.

Even for many of us in the anti-Trump camp, this election has exposed us as well. The ugly side of human nature and the desire to settle scores and inflict harm on those that made illogical choices that affect us.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:19:07pm

re: #702 electrotek

Yeah to be fair, even though I don’t like to hold collective responsibility toward anybody, the way I deliver the message would run contradictory to my belief.

I don’t want to hold all of Serbia responsible for what happened, because I fully realize that there is a sizable minority who doesn’t deny the crimes committed. And if I meet a Serb or Greek or Assyrian or Chaldean or [insert any group that has victimized Muslims], I would still prefer to give them benefit of the doubt instead of just brushing them off.

It’s not like I would want all of Serbia bombed for even more punishment for its crimes. What’s done is done. I just wish they would acknowledge their crimes, but hopefully they eventually will, even if it takes another 100 years for it.

To add, it has also exposed an ugly side of me after the election. The side where I would love nothing more to see Middle Eastern Christians or Iranians who voted for Trump to suffer, and suffer at the hands of those whom they feel are their allies for their misguided vote. The video I posted yesterday of an Assyrian woman being degraded by someone for speaking the language was a powderkeg for me, as I went ballistic and started being “joyful” even at seeing poetic justice being enforced.

Even for many of us in the anti-Trump camp, this election has exposed us as well. The ugly side of human nature and the desire to settle scores and inflict harm on those that made illogical choices that affect us.

I look at this way, I probably have ancestors who were Christians, Jews, Muslims, Pagans, Hindus, etc. I don’t believe myself to be a pure anything. Am I proud to have ties to certain regions? Yes, sure but it’s because I admire their culture and I would never use being part whatever to trumpet myself as beng superior. In the end of the day, I’m a mutt descended from other mutts. In short, I’m a human being.

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:31:59pm

re: #600 JasonA

EMAILS BENGHAZI EMAILS BENGHAZI EMAILS BENGHAZI

White Natio-what now? Pfft.

They’re all doing this at the moment:

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wheat-dogg  Nov 13, 2016 • 8:36:38pm

re: #312 Feline Fearless Leader

[Embedded content]

Why a duck? Why-a no chicken?

Youtube Video

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2016 • 1:02:42am

re: #562 HappyWarrior

I’ve had this idea of writing a short story set in the Spanish Civil War about two friends who join the opposing sides. I haven’t really given ti too much though since I don’t know enough about the Spanish Civil War to write such a story.

A movie that sorta treads that territory:

imdb.com
en.wikipedia.org

True story of two best friends in Yugoslavia, both expert marksmen, who become snipers on opposing sides in the Bosnian War.

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SirMixALot  Nov 14, 2016 • 4:42:13am

re: #292 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sounds like it may be time for us to start taking pro-active measures and establish a presence on the dark web just in case we become targets….

Yep. Already exploring my options.


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