Breitbart “News” Threatening to Sue “Major Media Company” for (Accurately) Labeling Them “White Nationalist”

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The most popular openly racist website on the Internet, the site that champions “free speech” (read: racism) and being “politically incorrect,” the site that attacks liberals and Muslims and women and anyone else they don’t like with incredibly vicious and demeaning slurs, is now threatening to sue a “major media company” for defamation.

Breitbart’s statement says they were defamed by being accurately described. (Not in so many words, of course.)

“Breitbart News Network, a pro-America, conservative website, is preparing a multi-million dollar lawsuit against a major media company for its baseless and defamatory claim that Breitbart News is a ‘white nationalist website,’” the statement reads.

“Breitbart News cannot allow such vicious racial lies to go unchallenged, especially by cynical, politically-motivated competitors seeking to diminish its 42 million monthly readers and its number one in the world political Facebook page. Breitbart News rejects racism in all its varied and ugly forms. Always has, always will,” the statement continues.

At Little Green Footballs, we’ve been chronicling and keeping track of the virulent racism and hate speech that dominates Breitbart “News” for many years. Here’s an LGF search for “Breitbart” with almost 600 results, and if you browse through some of these articles you’ll see some of the absolute worst this poisonous website has to offer.

The discovery phase of this lawsuit, assuming they actually carry out this threat, should be very interesting indeed.

But I admit, I don’t really understand why they see this as defamatory. They’re going to find it difficult to show that their reputation is actually damaged by being described as “white nationalist,” because the knuckle-draggers who frequent Breitbart “News” comment sections see this as an attraction, not a detriment.

Which “major media company” are they threatening, you ask? Well, after this confrontation between Don Lemon and Breitbart hack Joel Pollak yesterday, I think it’s quite possible the target will be CNN.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:19:01pm

Can dish it out when pandering to their readers but can’t take it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:23:45pm

latest new political term and point of contention dividing democrats and progressives:

“normalizing”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:24:57pm

re: #2 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

latest new political term and point of contention dividing democrats and progressives:

“normalizing”

?

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wrenchwench  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:25:53pm

AP wants in:

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:27:36pm

“…Breitbart News rejects racism in all its varied and ugly forms. Always has, always will…”
Now it makes sense.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:28:45pm

They are boldened by the Trump win, now they think he’ll help him go after all the MSM.

Trump could do a lot of damage to the First Amendment.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:29:49pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

?

when democrats are accusing other democrats of giving trump the benefit of the doubt and treating him as merely a politician that they disagree with rather than a unique and signal danger to democracy and the future of the earth: “don’t normalize trump!”

im not completely committed to either point of view

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:30:10pm

Ever notice how the biggest racists are also the folks who state loudest that they are against racism?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:30:38pm
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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:30:53pm

I died laughing at the “pro-America” part.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:31:21pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:32:29pm

I am quite concerned that Peter Thiel could be backing them up on the lawsuit threat. Then again, Breitbart has Rebekah Mercer propping them up financially…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:32:44pm

re: #7 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

when democrats are accusing other democrats of giving trump the benefit of the doubt and treating him as merely a politician that they disagree with rather than a unique and signal danger to democracy and the future of the earth: “don’t normalize trump!”

im not completely committed to either point of view

I am committed to making sure the minorities that trump outright threatened in his campaign know that I stand with them and don’t regard that as acceptable, whether or not he meant it only as campaign rhetoric.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:33:30pm

I bet a bunch of lawsuits against the DNC are coming.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:37:48pm

re: #10 electrotek

I died laughing at the “pro-America” part.

Glad you managed to resurrect!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:40:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:40:41pm

It’s so sad when you bend over backwards and reject journalistic standards to normalize an unqualified bigot but then you still get sued by his campaign manager.

I weep for CNN!!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:41:39pm
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:42:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:42:41pm

CNN is flailing now…reporting that Tom Cotton is being considered for Secretary of Defense because Pence likes him.

O_o

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:45:35pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Trump’s inauguration may get ugly. I predict thousands of anti-Trump protesters and pro-Trump attendees clashing. I don’t know if he’s going to do anything to try to bring this country together after he ran such a divisive campaign.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:45:37pm

Bruce Bartlett has given up.

Facebook Post

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:47:15pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:47:43pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

Bruce Bartlett has given up.

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Recovery is for quitters!

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theliel  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:48:13pm

re: #7 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Because in the past various regimes have used it as a ‘test’ -

See electionado.com and sarahkendzior.com

Both people that cover authoritarian regimes and other scum of the universe.

You have to stop them now because they’ll just keep pushing and the further along they get the harder they are to stop.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:49:02pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

Too bad they’re all in California.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:50:01pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Can dish it out when pandering to their readers but can’t take it.

And incapable of grasping why such lawsuits should fail given our Constitution. I suppose Bannon must think that just the threat of a lawsuit should keep CNN and other media outlets from criticizing Trump and his supporters.

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Cheechako  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:50:33pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

Trump’s inauguration may get ugly. I predict thousands of anti-Trump protesters and pro-Trump attendees clashing. I don’t know if he’s going to do anything to try to bring this country together after he ran such a divisive campaign.

I’ll bet that the parade is cancelled.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:53:09pm

Language at the site may be slightly NSFW.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:53:18pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

Must be fun to be so privileged that you can try to pretend that there isn’t about to be a mad man in the White House who is going to mess up the lives of millions of people at home and abroad. Wish I could do the same but unfortunately, Trump’s incompetence and racism is likely to impact me and many people I know directly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:54:00pm

re: #26 Skip Intro

Too bad they’re all in California.

And as we know, we just don’t count here. Too busy being coastal-ly elite and driving the economy.

///

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:54:10pm

re: #9 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:55:38pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:56:15pm

re: #29 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Language at the site may be slightly NSFW.

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Too busy with stress headaches causing my head to asplode. Can I just blow something up and be done with it?

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wrenchwench  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:56:41pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:57:33pm

re: #34 thedopefishlives

An update from my favorite weather station:

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:57:58pm

re: #27 Patricia Kayden

And incapable of grasping why such lawsuits should fail given our Constitution. I suppose Bannon must think that just the threat of a lawsuit should keep CNN and other media outlets from criticizing Trump and his supporters.

First, there is no such thing as CNN. There is Time Warner which owns CNN. That’s who Bannon is really threatening (if CNN is the target). Nice little cable business you have there. Too bad if something happened to it.

There is also no such thing as NBC. There is Comcast which owns NBC.

Same goes for ABC (Disney) and CBS (Viacom).

Only Fox isn’t owned by someone else. Depressing, isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 3:59:25pm

Okay, that short amount of respect for Rand Paul is gone. HE’s defending Bannon.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:00:19pm

re: #16 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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So Franken, Reid. Any other prominent Dems speak out on Bannon yet?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:00:31pm

re: #36 klys (maker of Silmarils)

An update from my favorite weather station:

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That shit’s funny, right there.

OH, I meant to say. Mrs. Fish had posted a humorous comment to the FB timeline of makeup company Cover Girl, talking about how it was so important to her to recover her makeup that she returned to the crash site to dig around for it (accompanied by a photo of her standing in front of the mangled remains of my vehicular transportation). I received a mystery package on my front step this morning… From the Cover Girl company, filled with makeup, and a letter explaining that they appreciate a customer who finds their product valuable enough to risk going back for it. I was completely blown away; that, to me, is a company with a great social media manager. Props to Cover Girl.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:01:00pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Okay, that short amount of respect for Rand Paul is gone. HE’s defending Bannon.

Does Lew Rockwell write Little Paul’s newsletter too?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:01:05pm

Oh hey.

There’s something about this map that feels familiar.

I mean, aside from the complete lie that it is. Something about the coasts? Hmmm. Maybe it’ll come to me. Eventually.

re: #39 HappyWarrior

So Franken, Reid. Any other prominent Dems speak out on Bannon yet?

I saw a tweet go by that Booker had put out a statement but I didn’t click through to read it.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:01:15pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

No big surprise, since Rand had no problem with saying business owners should be free to not serve black customers.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:01:30pm

WE’RE GONNA BRING BACK COAL, BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:02:17pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

So Franken, Reid. Any other prominent Dems speak out on Bannon yet?

What difference does it make? Do you think the media is going to pay any attention to anything they say? They’re biased so they can’t be taken seriously.

Or did I just dream all that over the last 15 months?

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:03:13pm

re: #42 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Oh hey.

There’s something about this map that feels familiar.

I mean, aside from the complete lie that it is. Something about the coasts? Hmmm. Maybe it’ll come to me. Eventually.

I saw a tweet go by that Booker had put out a statement but I didn’t click through to read it.

Translation: Republicans again win majority of the districts where farm animals outnumber the humans.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:04:18pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

First, there is no such thing as CNN. There is Time Warner which owns CNN. That’s who Bannon is threatening (if CNN is the target).

There is also no such thing as NBC. There is Comcast which owns NBC.

Same goes for ABC (Disney) and CBS (Viacom).

Only Fox isn’t owned by someone else. Depressing, isn’t it?

Remember that AT&T also wants to buy TimeWarner**, a merger Trump allegedly wants to derail. This cannot be a mere coincidence.

** TimeWarner spun off Time and their magazine division as the “new” Time, Inc. Also Time Warner Cable is merely a brand name slowly being phased out by Charter Cable.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:04:28pm

re: #40 thedopefishlives

That shit’s funny, right there.

OH, I meant to say. Mrs. Fish had posted a humorous comment to the FB timeline of makeup company Cover Girl, talking about how it was so important to her to recover her makeup that she returned to the crash site to dig around for it (accompanied by a photo of her standing in front of the mangled remains of my vehicular transportation). I received a mystery package on my front step this morning… From the Cover Girl company, filled with makeup, and a letter explaining that they appreciate a customer who finds their product valuable enough to risk going back for it. I was completely blown away; that, to me, is a company with a great social media manager. Props to Cover Girl.

Meanwhile Subaru has ignored every comment I have made online about the lack of communication regarding the airbag recall. mr. klys and I are trying to figure out what we’re doing over Thanksgiving, because the plan of taking his car into Saline Valley sort of relied on me being able to sit in the passenger seat so we could use all the space in the back for things like “a full size spare tire” and “bad road gear.”

We got that recall notice back in July. The dealership is saying maybe early December for the repair but they can’t guarantee that they’ll have the parts. As far as they knew they were supposed to have gotten them in September.

Props to Cover Girl though.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:04:38pm

re: #42 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Oh hey.

There’s something about this map that feels familiar.

I mean, aside from the complete lie that it is. Something about the coasts? Hmmm. Maybe it’ll come to me. Eventually.

I saw a tweet go by that Booker had put out a statement but I didn’t click through to read it.

And even if it was true, people on the coast’s votes mean just as much as people do i n the heartland. As I’ve said, I’m sick of the snobbery that goes at people who live on the coasts but so many people in the heartland act like it’s just the coasts that act snobby. It’s not and it’s never been exclusive. When the coasts were getting immigrants, the “heartland” people called the coasts not really America.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:05:17pm

re: #43 Jebediah, RBG

No big surprise, since Rand had no problem with saying business owners should be free to not serve black customers.

Of course not. He’s also someone who employed a Confederate Avenger which I promise oyu isn’t as fun as the other Avengers.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:05:39pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Okay, that short amount of respect for Rand Paul is gone. HE’s defending Bannon.

Always apply the Charles Pierce 5-minute rule when it comes to the Pauls.

To recap: the Five Minute Rule states that any member of the Paul family will make sense on any political issue for exactly five minutes. Precisely at the 5:00:01 mark, however, he will say something so far off the rails that you will find yourself looking at him as though he has sprouted a reptilian head out of his sternum.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:06:23pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Okay, that short amount of respect for Rand Paul is gone. HE’s defending Bannon.

Rand Paul wrote several op-eds for Breitbart awhile back.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:06:31pm

re: #47 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Once Big Fucking Corporation buys everything we won’t have this problem delineating businesses any more.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:06:39pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

And even if it was true, people on the coast’s votes mean just as much as people do i n the heartland. As I’ve said, I’m sick of the snobbery that goes at people who live on the coasts but so many people in the heartland act like it’s just the coasts that act snobby. It’s not and it’s never been exclusive. When the coasts were getting immigrants, the “heartland” people called the coasts not really America.

Eh, in the modern era that writing’s been on the wall since Palin started off with the whole “real America” bit.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:06:44pm

i have to imagine that trump will get busy with some showy bombing campaign right after getting in to give his voters a thrill

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:06:49pm

SPLC is not a Bannon fan:

“Stephen Bannon, a man who led a media empire into becoming what a former Breitbart editor called a ‘a cesspool for white supremacist mememakers,’ simply has no business in the White House.

SPLC leader’s message ends with a petition block.

splcenter.org

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:06:49pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

So Franken, Reid. Any other prominent Dems speak out on Bannon yet?

Nancy Pelosi
democraticleader.gov

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:06:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:07:03pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

WE’RE GONNA BRING BACK COAL, BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL.

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It was a difficult life. Still is. As I said earlier, my great grandfathers weren’t miners because they loved coal, it was one of the few lines of work they could do with their educational level and limited grasp of English. They both sacrificed a lot and both died younger than they otherwise would have as a result. They did to give their descendants better futures.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:07:44pm

re: #51 BeachDem

Always apply the Charles Pierce 5-minute rule when it comes to the Pauls.

That’s right, I forgot about Pierce’s Paul 5 Minute Rule.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:07:55pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

No disrespect to coal miners but I can’t imagine what it must be like to work for hours in a dark, sweaty, dirty mine way down deep in the earth. Just the thought of doing that kind of work makes my heart skip a beat. I respect the fact that that is the only job some people can get though.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:08:21pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Meanwhile Subaru has ignored every comment I have made online about the lack of communication regarding the airbag recall. mr. klys and I are trying to figure out what we’re doing over Thanksgiving, because the plan of taking his car into Saline Valley sort of relied on me being able to sit in the passenger seat so we could use all the space in the back for things like “a full size spare tire” and “bad road gear.”

We got that recall notice back in July. The dealership is saying maybe early December for the repair but they can’t guarantee that they’ll have the parts. As far as they knew they were supposed to have gotten them in September.

Props to Cover Girl though.

Can’t the front seat airbag simply be unplugged? You would lose its protection, but mitigate the hazard.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:08:30pm

re: #57 BeachDem

Nancy Pelosi
democraticleader.gov

Okay, that’s great. Those are the two most powerful Dems in both Houses. Hopefully Schumer says something soon too since he’s the incoming Dem Senate leader.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:08:40pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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These, these will never get old!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:09:30pm

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

No disrespect to coal miners but I can’t imagine what it must be like to work for hours in a dark, sweaty, dirty mine way down deep in the earth. Just the thought of doing that kind of work makes my heart skip a beat. I respect the fact that that is the only job some people can get though.

You’re not disrespecting at all believe me. My grandmother still doesn’t know how her dad did it for over 40 years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:10:42pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

So Franken, Reid. Any other prominent Dems speak out on Bannon yet?

Pelosi, Boxer

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:11:11pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Once Big Fucking Corporation buys everything we won’t have this problem delineating businesses any more.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:11:12pm

re: #62 Decatur Deb

Can’t the front seat airbag simply be unplugged? You would lose it’s protection, but mitigate the hazard.

I don’t know. I would think if it could, they would have offered it as an alternative? But maybe not, because of the legal shit.

I should do some looking into that. If it’s simple enough maybe I could pull it myself; otherwise maybe there is a local shop that we trust that could do it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:11:42pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pelosi, Boxer

Boxer and Reid really make me happy since both are on their way out. Good for all that have.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:13:33pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

HAHAHAHAHA! THAT’S VENEZUELA! CHECKMATE, LIBTARD!

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:13:41pm
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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:14:03pm

re: #67 BeachDem

But it’s got electrolytes!

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thedopefishlives  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:14:40pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Meanwhile Subaru has ignored every comment I have made online about the lack of communication regarding the airbag recall. mr. klys and I are trying to figure out what we’re doing over Thanksgiving, because the plan of taking his car into Saline Valley sort of relied on me being able to sit in the passenger seat so we could use all the space in the back for things like “a full size spare tire” and “bad road gear.”

We got that recall notice back in July. The dealership is saying maybe early December for the repair but they can’t guarantee that they’ll have the parts. As far as they knew they were supposed to have gotten them in September.

Props to Cover Girl though.

Recalls are the suck. At least when my Chevy was recalled, they happened to have parts in stock.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:15:48pm

re: #68 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know. I would think if it could, they would have offered it as an alternative? But maybe not, because of the legal shit.

I should do some looking into that. If it’s simple enough maybe I could pull it myself; otherwise maybe there is a local shop that we trust that could do it.

You can probably pull a fuse to disarm the system. It’s not illegal for you to do it, if I recall correctly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:16:18pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:17:21pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Once Big Fucking Corporation buys everything we won’t have this problem delineating businesses any more.

Can’t wait until Big Fucking Corporation changes its name to Network 23.

“20 minutes into the future.”
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:17:34pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Biden and Obama themselves need to take part in a real life Obama-Biden meme before they leave. Please guys and then we’ll let you enjoy retirement and only sob once a day about how we miss you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:18:46pm

re: #74 thedopefishlives

You can probably pull a fuse to disarm the system. It’s not illegal for you to do it, if I recall correctly.

my elderly 98 Ford Ranger has a place on the dash where I can disable it as needed (such as when there is a child or smaller person in the passenger seat).

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thedopefishlives  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:19:17pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

my elderly 98 Ford Ranger has a place on the dash where I can disable it as needed (such as when there is a child or smaller person in the passenger seat).

For a passenger one, yes, most of them have a disable option. Some of them use the ignition key to disarm the passenger air bag, I think.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:19:29pm

re: #74 thedopefishlives

You can probably pull a fuse to disarm the system. It’s not illegal for you to do it, if I recall correctly.

Yeah, this is just a ton of frustration. Grrr.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:19:52pm

re: #80 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, this is just a ton of frustration. Grrr.

No doubt.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:20:40pm

re: #76 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Can’t wait until Big Fucking Corporation changes its name to Network 23.

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HEY!

The Evil Company in that series was Zik Zak. They made that “blipvert” ad for their Bisonburgers that made their viewers “explode”, as it were.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:22:55pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:23:02pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

my elderly 98 Ford Ranger has a place on the dash where I can disable it as needed (such as when there is a child or smaller person in the passenger seat).

Mr. w wants to replace our elderly 94 Ford Ranger so we can have airbags.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:23:35pm

re: #79 thedopefishlives

For a passenger one, yes, most of them have a disable option. Some of them use the ignition key to disarm the passenger air bag, I think.

yep, ignition key does it for my Ranger.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:24:20pm

re: #72 lawhawk

But it’s got electrolytes!

Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator had come to replace water…
virtually everywhere.
Water, the basic component of all life…
had been deemed a threat to Brawndo’s profit margin.

The solution came during the budget crisis of 2330…
when the Brawndo Corporation simply bought the F.D. A and the F.C. C. Enabling them to say, do and sell anything they wanted.

(Are we there yet? Afraid to look)

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:25:26pm

re: #82 Sherlock Hound

HEY!

The Evil Company in that series was Zik Zak. They made that “blipvert” ad for their Bisonburgers that made their viewers “explode”, as it were.

One of the truly underrated shows of all time. I confess I haven’t seen the series in AGES. 😞

And if you think about it, what’s really different from that show’s oligarchy of network news operations over what we currently have?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:27:39pm

if we abolished the electoral college, there would be none of this “my vote wont count becuz the state i live in…”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:28:54pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

my elderly 98 Ford Ranger has a place on the dash where I can disable it as needed (such as when there is a child or smaller person in the passenger seat).

The Subaru, sadly, does not.

I did find instructions on how to do it if we decide to go that route. I could probably manage it on my own. We just have to decide if that’s what we want to do.

I mostly just want to throw a lot of things right now, which isn’t terribly helpful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:29:29pm

NBC’s @mitchellreports: Trump team asked that Kushner be designated to attend Presidential Daily Briefings once he gets top secret clearance

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:32:12pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:32:53pm

Lindsey Graham Vows To Oppose Any Effort To Blow Up The Filibuster

Good luck with that. I imagine Steve Bannon will be having a little show and tell with Lindsey soon.
huffingtonpost.com

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Timothy Watson  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:33:08pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because every son of a convicted felon whose wife is the daughter of a naturalized citizen always have such an easy time getting top secret security clearance.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:34:03pm

re: #9 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And we’ll be reading about what was in those briefings by this time tomorrow.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:34:11pm

re: #89 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The Subaru, sadly, does not.

I did find instructions on how to do it if we decide to go that route. I could probably manage it on my own. We just have to decide if that’s what we want to do.

I mostly just want to throw a lot of things right now, which isn’t terribly helpful.

In the meantime, I may have a lead on a new car for me. It’s within walking distance of my house. I don’t want to jump the gun, because I can afford to wait for a while and get The Right Car, but if it’s as good a deal as advertised, I may have to come home with her this weekend.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:35:16pm
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Stephen T.  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:36:36pm

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

No disrespect to coal miners but I can’t imagine what it must be like to work for hours in a dark, sweaty, dirty mine way down deep in the earth. Just the thought of doing that kind of work makes my heart skip a beat. I respect the fact that that is the only job some people can get though.

While I’m sure that there are miners who still go down into dark and dirty holes in the ground. Most coal is mined by removing the entire mountain and throwing away the toxic sludge they don’t need into river valleys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:38:20pm
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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:38:44pm

re: #92 Skip Intro

Lindsey Graham Vows To Oppose Any Effort To Blow Up The Filibuster

Good luck with that. I imagine Steve Bannon will be having a little show and tell with Lindsey soon.
huffingtonpost.com

I’m sure Trump is just quaking in his boots:

Sen. Graham Promises To Be A Check On Trump On Russia, Immigration

talkingpointsmemo.com

Will that be before or after Trump names Ted Cruz to the Supreme Court, per Lindsey’s suggestion?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:40:47pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:41:01pm

re: #99 BeachDem

Even if Lindsey votes with the Dems on some things it’s just as likely that Bernie will go over and vote with the GOP, because that’s the kind of total asshole he is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:43:54pm

Also too: son of a convicted felon

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:44:25pm

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

Recommended movie on the subject: Margaret’s Museum.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:45:44pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:46:18pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Okay, that short amount of respect for Rand Paul is gone. HE’s defending Bannon.

Must of had time to check which way the wind was blowing.

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EPR-radar  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:47:29pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s just disgusting. At least we know what gets Lindsey Graham Tweety going (yuck!) — Nazi porn.

Edited to fix brain fart.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:48:34pm

re: #99 BeachDem

I’m sure Trump is just quaking in his boots:

Sen. Graham Promises To Be A Check On Trump On Russia, Immigration

talkingpointsmemo.com

Will that be before or after Trump names Ted Cruz to the Supreme Court, per Lindsey’s suggestion?

Dude, Trump read your phone number out loud on TV.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:49:13pm

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

Also too: son of a convicted felon

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The guy who hired a prostitute to trap his own brother?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:49:24pm

laura ingraham as press secretary would really be courting disaster

her preadolescent cracks would end up being the news

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EPR-radar  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:49:25pm

re: #101 Skip Intro

Even if Lindsey votes with the Dems on some things it’s just as likely that Bernie will go over and vote with the GOP, because that’s the kind of total asshole he is.

I don’t see Sanders as a vote to end the filibuster, even though he is being an asshole. The filibuster empowers Senators that are in the minority, and Sanders will be in the minority the rest of his days in the Senate.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:50:48pm

re: #109 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

laura ingraham as press secretary would really be courting disaster

her preadolescent cracks would end up being the news

So she’d be perfect. Plus one less RWNJ polluting the airwaves.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:51:39pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Meanwhile Subaru has ignored every comment I have made online about the lack of communication regarding the airbag recall. mr. klys and I are trying to figure out what we’re doing over Thanksgiving, because the plan of taking his car into Saline Valley sort of relied on me being able to sit in the passenger seat so we could use all the space in the back for things like “a full size spare tire” and “bad road gear.”

We got that recall notice back in July. The dealership is saying maybe early December for the repair but they can’t guarantee that they’ll have the parts. As far as they knew they were supposed to have gotten them in September.

Props to Cover Girl though.

Demand a loaner car. With a full tank of gas. I sure as hell would. And make sure it is something decent. Maybe drop a hint you are considering talking to some lawyers.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:51:39pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

Not if he flips.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:52:48pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

The long sobs of autumn’s violins wound my heart with a monotonous languor. I repeat. The long sobs of autumn’s violins wound my heart with a monotonous languor.

Jaques has a long moustache. I repeat. Jaques has a long moustache.

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EPR-radar  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:53:35pm

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

I’ve read reports of Trumpists getting shouty at their meetings with officials for the transition.

Let’s hope some of that is from the intelligence community people making it very clear that TS clearances aren’t going to get handed out like party favors, and that espionage can be a capital Federal crime.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:53:37pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:54:33pm

re: #109 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

laura ingraham as press secretary would really be courting disaster

her preadolescent cracks would end up being the news

DON’T COME IN MY EAR, Laura Ingraham - Harry Shearer: Found Objects

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EPR-radar  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:54:44pm

re: #113 Skip Intro

Not if he flips.

Wouldn’t that be a hoot. Makes no real difference to me, but the tears of the worst of the Sanders dead-enders would be delicious.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:55:01pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

Demand a loaner car. With a full tank of gas. I sure as hell would. And make sure it is something decent. Maybe drop a hint you are considering talking to some lawyers.

For what we want to do, a loaner car doesn’t really work. Unfortunately.

Hell, even my car would need some work before we’d feel comfortable taking it on the roads we were planning on driving. His car has hybrid on-road/off-road tires and a skid plate for exactly this reason. Unless we can somehow convince them to spring for a off-road jeep rental at $200 a day, the trip probably won’t happen over Thanksgiving.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:55:58pm

cnn: “professor predicted trump win, now says he will be impeached”

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Lancelot Link  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:56:17pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

Wouldn’t that be a hoot. Makes no real difference to me, but the tears of the worst of the Sanders dead-enders would be delicious.

No ,they’d still rationalize some way to defend Him.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:57:58pm

re: #117 Myron Falwell (no relation)

She has a really annoying voice. Another reason she gets a thumbs up from me for press secretary.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:59:09pm

re: #120 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

cnn: “professor predicted trump win, now says he will be impeached”

Heh. Could the white nationalist wing of the republicans be using Trump as their own puppet, in unison with Russia?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 4:59:27pm

re: #108 Barefoot Grin

The guy who hired a prostitute to trap his own brother?

How sick and demented is that?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:01:20pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

I’ve read reports of Trumpists getting shouty at their meetings with officials for the transition.

Let’s hope some of that is from the intelligence community people making it very clear that TS clearances aren’t going to get handed out like party favors, and that espionage can be a capital Federal crime.

Jared Kushner fits every anti-Semitic stereotype. It’s creepy as fuck.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:05:52pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:06:22pm

re: #117 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I was at a function earlier this year and one of the people I spoke to managed her a few years ago. Let’s just say that the video above is a nicer version of her.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:06:42pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

I’ve read reports of Trumpists getting shouty at their meetings with officials for the transition.

Let’s hope some of that is from the intelligence community people making it very clear that TS clearances aren’t going to get handed out like party favors, and that espionage can be a capital Federal crime.

I really want some false Intel to make its way into a Trump briefing just to see what foreign power gets wind of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:09:14pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

I’ve read reports of Trumpists getting shouty at their meetings with officials for the transition.

Let’s hope some of that is from the intelligence community people making it very clear that TS clearances aren’t going to get handed out like party favors, and that espionage can be a capital Federal crime.

no, it’s the Trump insiders shouting at the intelligence community people.

srsly, it is.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:09:58pm
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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:11:19pm

My favorite Lib writer, Joe Bageant, died when he lost hope. Cancer consumed him. He wrote “Deer Hunting For Jesus” which is one of the best examinations of why poor white voters vote Republican.

I’m feeling very hopeless right now.

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Cheechako  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:11:36pm

We do have an important decision to make…do we call the new plan “TrumpCare” or “TrumpNoCare”?

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scottslemmons  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:13:56pm

re: #131 plansbandc

My favorite Lib writer, Joe Bageant, died when he lost hope. Cancer consumed him. He wrote “Deer Hunting For Jesus” which is one of the best examinations of why poor white voters vote Republican.

I’m feeling very hopeless right now.

I tried reading that a couple of times. I had to quit when it got too depressing. :(

Which isn’t to say it wasn’t excellent and funny and insightful. But god, every page got more and more grim…

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:13:56pm

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

Also too: son of a convicted felon

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So he wants his kids to have clearances even though he can’t legally hire them to his staff and so will have them run his businesses “in trust.” And he wants a clearance for his son-in-law who runs a newspaper.

And the media which spent months obsessing about bullshit stories like Hillary having her maid print out “CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!!!!” meets this news with silence.

Gee, I can’t imagine why Americans would have a trust of the media that ranks lower than Congress…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:15:10pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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But what we REALLY need is a BUSINESSMAN in charge! Everything will be run smoothly and efficiently!
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:17:28pm

re: #132 Cheechako

We do have an important decision to make…do we call the new plan “TrumpCare” or “TrumpNoCare”?

The terrific, fabulous replacement for Obamacare and Medicare is Trumpcare: everyone on this incredible new program will receive, for only $99, a framed portrait of Dear Leader with the caption, in beautiful gold leaf calligraphy PRESIDENT TRUMP CARES.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:18:26pm

re: #136 Blind Frog Belly White

But what we REALLY need is a BUSINESSMAN in charge! Everything will be run smoothly and efficiently!
/////

I hear there are problems with Ivanka’s new Spring line, so the entire Trump braintrust has been dedicated to finding a solution.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:18:31pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:19:45pm

re: #128 GlutenFreeJesus

I really want some false Intel to make its way into a Trump briefing just to see what foreign power gets wind of it.

If the CIA is not already doing that, they are being grossly incompetent.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:23:51pm
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bratwurst  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:28:35pm

Fucking hell.

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A Cranky One  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:30:40pm

Given the changes to Trump’s speech patterns and vocabulary in the last decade, his refusal to delve into the details of the job he’s about to undertake and the inability to keep even trivial lies consistent, I suspect that Trump’s mental facilities are failing. This may be the reason for his desire to have his kids and kid-in-law included in the highest level briefings. I can picture them coaching him about what happened or guiding him toward decisions because he can’t keep any details straight. And he can’t trust anyone to keep the secret other than family.

Damn. That’s even more depressing. Bad Cranky One, Bad!

Hey, maybe as more information comes out about Trump/Putin ties, the Republicans will use their super duper plan devised for Hillary: impeach Trump before he takes office.

Nah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:31:17pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:31:25pm

Apparently America: The Series has reached the home stretch before the season finale where shit goes sideways because the script writers need to create a shitload of tension before the big reveal that Trump was really Frank Underwood all along.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:31:59pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:32:06pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:35:10pm

re: #143 A Cranky One

Given the changes to Trump’s speech patterns and vocabulary in the last decade, his refusal to delve into the details of the job he’s about to undertake and the inability to keep even trivial lies consistent, I suspect that Trump’s mental facilities are failing. This may be the reason for his desire to have his kids and kid-in-law included in the highest level briefings. I can picture them coaching him about what happened or guiding him toward decisions because he can’t keep any details straight. And he can’t trust anyone to keep the secret other than family.

Damn. That’s even more depressing. Bad Cranky One, Bad!

Hey, maybe as more information comes out about Trump/Putin ties, the Republicans will use their super duper plan devised for Hillary: impeach Trump before he takes office.

Nah.

Considering how many times during the past year that we’ve learned that Trump was accusing Hillary of things he was actually guilty of, would it really surprise anybody to find out that Trump’s mental faculties are going and the next four years will basically be a replay of the Reagan admin where his appointed cabal of underlings ran wild with the power he gave them?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:37:49pm

re: #143 A Cranky One

Given the changes to Trump’s speech patterns and vocabulary in the last decade, his refusal to delve into the details of the job he’s about to undertake and the inability to keep even trivial lies consistent, I suspect that Trump’s mental facilities are failing. This may be the reason for his desire to have his kids and kid-in-law included in the highest level briefings. I can picture them coaching him about what happened or guiding him toward decisions because he can’t keep any details straight. And he can’t trust anyone to keep the secret other than family.

Damn. That’s even more depressing. Bad Cranky One, Bad!

Hey, maybe as more information comes out about Trump/Putin ties, the Republicans will use their super duper plan devised for Hillary: impeach Trump before he takes office.

Nah.

But… but… but Dr. Oz showed us all a paper that said that he was the utmost picture of health!

//

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worldknot  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:39:44pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:40:24pm

re: #148 Targetpractice

Considering how many times during the past year that we’ve learned that Trump was accusing Hillary of things he was actually guilty of, would it really surprise anybody to find out that Trump’s mental faculties are going and the next four years will basically be a replay of the Reagan admin where his appointed cabal of underlings ran wild with the power he gave them?

Don’t make no never-mind. If Trump shears off his human skin and reveals he’s an armadillo, he’s President in January. Our processes need some fine-tuning.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:41:57pm

re: #143 A Cranky One

Given the changes to Trump’s speech patterns and vocabulary in the last decade, his refusal to delve into the details of the job he’s about to undertake and the inability to keep even trivial lies consistent, I suspect that Trump’s mental facilities are failing. This may be the reason for his desire to have his kids and kid-in-law included in the highest level briefings. I can picture them coaching him about what happened or guiding him toward decisions because he can’t keep any details straight. And he can’t trust anyone to keep the secret other than family.

I think when Obama met with him he saw this.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:43:38pm

re: #146 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Jeez. And somewhere I saw that Michelle fucking Rhee is a consideration for dept of ed.

Just. Shoot. Me.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:44:04pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

Don’t make no never-mind. If Trump shears off his human skin and reveals he’s an armadillo, he’s President in January. Our processes need some fine-tuning.

We tinker around the edges, but the inherent flaws in the system remain. Trump’s not the first guy sent to the White House who shouldn’t have really been there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:44:52pm

Kayleigh says Trump won’t listen to concerns of Dems in Congress: “Donald Trump got here by not listening to the other side of the aisle.”

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:46:11pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Remember when the GOP and wingnuts across the nation lost their shit over “I won”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:46:24pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:46:47pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah, honesty. So refreshing.

/ half

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:47:03pm

re: #40 thedopefishlives

That shit’s funny, right there.

OH, I meant to say. Mrs. Fish had posted a humorous comment to the FB timeline of makeup company Cover Girl, talking about how it was so important to her to recover her makeup that she returned to the crash site to dig around for it (accompanied by a photo of her standing in front of the mangled remains of my vehicular transportation). I received a mystery package on my front step this morning… From the Cover Girl company, filled with makeup, and a letter explaining that they appreciate a customer who finds their product valuable enough to risk going back for it. I was completely blown away; that, to me, is a company with a great social media manager. Props to Cover Girl.

Cover Girl recently used a model in hijab in their adverts, a Muslima who blogs about fashion and stuff, and an androgynous-looking “Cover Boy,” who I think has some YouTube channel about men using cosmetics. Their social media staff knows what they’re doing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:47:44pm
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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:51:39pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Once Big Fucking Corporation buys everything we won’t have this problem delineating businesses any more.

Buy-N-Large

The History of Buy n Large (BnL Shorts)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:51:42pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:53:38pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Translation: Assad hopes America will become his new sugar daddy.

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A Cranky One  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:53:46pm

re: #148 Targetpractice

Considering how many times during the past year that we’ve learned that Trump was accusing Hillary of things he was actually guilty of, would it really surprise anybody to find out that Trump’s mental faculties are going and the next four years will basically be a replay of the Reagan admin where his appointed cabal of underlings ran wild with the power he gave them?

Might explain why a lot of Republicans supported him. Without realizing that it doesn’t necessarily make Trump easier to control and in fact dangerous to them as well.

If there is any truth to the conjecture, I wonder how quickly it will become common knowledge. Is a full, very comprehensive physical required early in the job, by a military physician? Not to mention that Trump can’t do the transition while hiding much of the time, there are simply too many demands that can’t be avoided.

Back to your point, I sure don’t see any of his insiders feeling ethically compelled to say anything. That would violate the first rule: Profit!

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:54:53pm

I can’t wait for a Native American politician to propose a bill that says that if your ancestors were not in America before 1492, you have to go back to your country of origin and reapply for citizenship pending a rigorous vetting.

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A Cranky One  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:54:54pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

I think when Obama met with him he saw this.

Hadn’t thought of that. But Obama would have noticed.

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meteor  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:55:35pm

re: #34 thedopefishlives

Those toy rockets you can get at the science museum would be cool.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:55:37pm

Signed up to donate to the SPLC, after donating to the ACLU, and signed up for a Washington Post digital subscription. Two headlines over there:

John McCain: A Trump administration thaw with Russia is ‘unacceptable’

“The price of another ‘reset’ would be complicity in Putin and Assad’s butchery of the Syrian people,” said the GOP senator, who is chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

and

Sanders: Trump is breaking promise to ‘drain the swamp’

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:56:39pm

re: #142 bratwurst

Fucking hell.

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How rich of them. Bannon is an actual Antisemite while Ellison has just been critical of Israel. You’re not helping AIPAC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:56:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:56:57pm

re: #146 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Fuck this.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:57:23pm

re: #168 Belafon

Signed up to donate to the SPLC, after donating to the ACLU, and signed up for a Washington Post digital subscription. Two headlines over there:

John McCain: A Trump administration thaw with Russia is ‘unacceptable’

and

Sanders: Trump is breaking promise to ‘drain the swamp’

In other news, water determined to be wet and the Pope confirmed to be Catholic.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:57:29pm

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:58:07pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah I’m sure Kayleigh would be just fine if Obama said that and Obama actually won a plurality of the vote but you know what, he’s not an asshole.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:59:36pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Donald Trump got here by not listening to the other side of the aisle.”

There’s a nugget in there. We have to somehow get Trump to blow off Republicans enough that they turn on him.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 5:59:51pm

re: #168 Belafon

Signed up to donate to the SPLC, after donating to the ACLU, and signed up for a Washington Post digital subscription. Two headlines over there:

John McCain: A Trump administration thaw with Russia is ‘unacceptable’

and

Sanders: Trump is breaking promise to ‘drain the swamp’

Has Sanders specifically commented on Bannon or is he just rambling that these are just establishment guys Trump is bringing in? Yeah that part is hypocritical but it’s really the least of Trump’s problems. To be honest, some of the establishment names i.e. Rogers would be better for Defense than Flynn who might just get it now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:00:16pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

In other news, water determined to be wet and the Pope confirmed to be Catholic.

Wouldn’t be a day ending in day without John McCain talking to his friends the press.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:01:21pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Guess Tweety has a side job.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:01:29pm

Honestly if McCain were that concerned about Trump’s views on Russia, he should have done everything possible to stop his presidency.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:02:52pm

I’m shocked, SHOCKED to find out that Trump is a two-faced liar who is going back on everything he campaigned on.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:03:00pm
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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:03:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:04:31pm

re: #182 Belafon

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George Lincoln Rockwell was a naval officer and a WWII combat veteran. Don’t fucking play the he’s a veteran ergo he can’t be racist. I don’t care if Bannon was a Congressional Medal of Honor winner, it doesn’t take away from the fact that the man is a racist, sexist, and antisemitic sob.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:04:35pm

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

The terrific, fabulous replacement for Obamacare and Medicare is Trumpcare: everyone on this incredible new program will receive, for only $99, a framed portrait of Dear Leader with the caption, in beautiful gold leaf calligraphy PRESIDENT TRUMP CARES.

The portrait must be kept immaculately clean and placed in a prominent place in the home or office. Inspectors will pay unannounced visits to ensure compliance.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:06:32pm

re: #123 GlutenFreeJesus

Heh. Could the white nationalist wing of the republicans be using Trump as their own puppet, in unison with Russia?

I think the religious right will be the ones to drive a stake through the heart of Vlad Trump. They want Pence in and , IMO, will be looking for anything to fry tRump and get him out of the way.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:07:05pm

re: #184 wheat-dogg

The portrait must be kept immaculately clean and placed in a prominent place in the home or office. Inspectors will pay unannounced visits to ensure compliance.

“In other news, today the Department of Defense has announced that ‘patriotic officers’ will be assigned to all military infantry units and naval vessels, to ensure that our Armed Forces are showing the proper loyalty to the elected government.”

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:09:08pm

So, the only thing I have left to do is contact various Democratic groups. Ours in Rockwall is pretty tiny.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:09:10pm

re: #153 BeachDem

Jeez. And somewhere I saw that Michelle fucking Rhee is a consideration for dept of ed.

Just. Shoot. Me.

Well, she’s qualified — she has at least one major scandal in her past. She’ll fit right in!

Seriously, she’s as bad a choice as Ben Carson. He wants to use the Dept. of Ed to monitor universities’ politics. Rhee would just do away with public education funding.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:09:44pm

re: #185 Eventual Carrion

I think the religious right will be the ones to drive a stake through the heart of Vlad Trump. They want Pence in and , IMO, will be looking for anything to fry tRump and get him out of the way.

They’re probably not too happy that Trump declared he’s not going to touch Obergefell.

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EPR-radar  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:09:55pm

re: #186 Targetpractice

“In other news, today the Department of Defense has announced that ‘patriotic officers’ will be assigned to all military infantry units and naval vessels, to ensure that our Armed Forces are showing the proper loyalty to the elected government.”

Trump is either going to get rid of the Department of Education entirely or set it up to run the Trumpjugend.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:10:09pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:10:20pm

re: #16 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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SO GLAD to see that my senator is on fucking top of it. Yaaaayyyy Al!!

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Kragar  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:10:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:10:50pm

re: #188 wheat-dogg

Well, she’s qualified — she has at least one major scandal in her past. She’ll fit right in!

Seriously, she’s as bad a choice as Ben Carson. He wants to use the Dept. of Ed to monitor universities’ politics. Rhee would just do away with public education funding.

And Rhee is technically a Democrat isn’t she so they’d sell as “bipartisan” right? I remember SFZ talking a lot about Rhee and how she was bad news.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:12:00pm
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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:12:28pm

re: #188 wheat-dogg

Well, she’s qualified — she has at least one major scandal in her past. She’ll fit right in!

Seriously, she’s as bad a choice as Ben Carson. He wants to use the Dept. of Ed to monitor universities’ politics. Rhee would just do away with public education funding.

Which would be actually interesting here in Texas. Our constitution requires that all children be given a “free and efficient” education. Now, the state has tried to see just how efficient they can be, but not getting any money from the Federal government would probably be a problem. Then again, Texas is the only red state in the top ten states that pay more in taxes than they receive. But that difference would just be returned as a property tax.

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EPR-radar  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:12:38pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

They’re probably not too happy that Trump declared he’s not going to touch Obergefell.

That won’t make RWNJs happy, but that decision is not up to Trump. Any RWNJ Trump puts on the court that would take out Roe would also take out Obergefell. The only exception to this that I can think of would be if Trump were to try to put Peter Thiel on the Supreme Court.

I think even the worthless GOP congress would choke on that nomination.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:12:58pm

re: #188 wheat-dogg

Well, she’s qualified — she has at least one major scandal in her past. She’ll fit right in!

Seriously, she’s as bad a choice as Ben Carson. He wants to use the Dept. of Ed to monitor universities’ politics. Rhee would just do away with public education funding.

It’s like that age old choice between cyanide and a firing squad.

Rhee wouldn’t do away with funding—she’d just transfer it all to private companies running bogus “charter” schools.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:13:26pm

re: #192 stpaulbear

SO GLAD to see that my senator is on fucking top of it. Yaaaayyyy Al!!

I’ve told you and the other Minnesota lizards this before but when Al first said he was running for office, I did a double take. I mean I didn’t like what I knew about Norm Coleman (I had a couple friends from Minnesota at the time) but it was like huh Al Franken, well okay. Well he won on Obama’s coattails as you know and as you also know he’s been a great Senator. I never doubted Al’s intelligence (knew he was a Harvard man) but his dedication to his craft is one of the best I’ve ever seen for someone without a career in politics. Minnesotans are lucky to have him. He’s also of course a wonderful guy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:14:14pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:15:25pm

re: #198 BeachDem

It’s like that age old choice between cyanide and a firing squad.

Rhee wouldn’t do away with funding—she’d just transfer it all to private companies running bogus “charter” schools.

Charter schools are a significant item in Trump’s AA ‘outreach”.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:15:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:15:31pm

re: #197 EPR-radar

That won’t make RWNJs happy, but that decision is not up to Trump. Any RWNJ Trump puts on the court that would take out Roe would also take out Obergefell. The only exception to this that I can think of would be if Trump were to try to put Peter Thiel on the Supreme Court.

I think even the worthless GOP congress would choke on that nomination.

Yeah that’s certainly true. A judge hostile to Roe is likely to be hostile to Obergefell unless the pick is Thiel and Thiel I think would make Harriett Miers’ nomination look like Earl Warren.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:16:57pm

re: #202 teleskiguy

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Radley’s a Libertarian but he’s one I like. He’s been very hard on the Libertarians who are giving the left a hard time for being upset at the results and those trying ot find silver linings in Trump and he’s been one of the best writers I’ve read on police misconduct. So I salute Radley, one of the good guys in that movement.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:17:10pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s certainly true. A judge hostile to Roe is likely to be hostile to Obergefell unless the pick is Thiel and Thiel I think would make Harriett Miers’ nomination look like Earl Warren.

“So, it says here you hate democracy.”

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:17:45pm

re: #201 Decatur Deb

Charter schools are a significant item in Trump’s AA ‘outreach”.

As, I believe are “vouchers.”

That’s it—I’m going to go watch some House of Lies—need me some Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell.

Later.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:19:15pm

re: #205 Belafon

“So, it says here you hate democracy.”

“What’s this about you bathing in blood?” Yeah I mean I know the RR enabled Trump big time y’all but they’d freak about this guy. We saw what they did with Reagan when he nominated Sandra Day O’Connor, who actually was qualified for the job and whose only sin was not being anti-choice.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:20:13pm

The fact that the Raving Freakazoid Nut Sandwich is now one of the loudest critics of the Trump team (and his observation on Bannon being a white nationalist, misogynist bigot is spot on) should be a really telling sign.

WATCH: Even Glenn Beck says you should worry about Donald Trump adviser Steve Bannon, a “terrifying man”

As the alt-right celebrates Donald Trump’s selection of Steve Bannon, conservative radio host Glenn Beck has denounced is sounding the alarm about the president-elect’s pick for chief strategist, whom he’s calling a “terrifying man.”

“He’s a nightmare and he’s the chief adviser to the president of the United States now,” Beck told his audience about the Breitbart leader during a Monday night broadcast.

“You know, if people really want to in the press would like to call Donald Trump a racist, you might want to stop on that one and spend a little time on [Steve] Bannon,” Beck added.

Beck closed by ominously noting, “He is a frightening man — no no no, a terrifying man. And it speaks volumes.”

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EPR-radar  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:20:33pm

re: #205 Belafon

“So, it says here you hate democracy.”

GOP Senators: “So do we, but you’re not supposed to talk about it”.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:21:14pm
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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:21:23pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

And Rhee is technically a Democrat isn’t she so they’d sell as “bipartisan” right? I remember SFZ talking a lot about Rhee and how she was bad news.

Plus, she’s of Asian background, so she’d serve as a token non-white male.

Diane Ravitch is no fan of Ms Rhee. She’s devoted several posts on her blog exposing Rhee’s incompetence and dishonesty. dianeravitch.net

Needless to say, the right wing and lovers of corporate education adore Rhee.

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Kragar  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:21:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:22:45pm

re: #211 wheat-dogg

Plus, she’s of Asian background, so she’d serve as a token non-white male.

Diane Ravitch is no fan of Ms Rhee. She’s devoted several posts on her blog exposing Rhee’s incompetence and dishonesty. Image: banners-under-new-management.jpeg

Needless to say, the right wing and lovers of corporate education adore Rhee.

I need to read more about her but if our educators like yourself and SFZ don’t like her, that’s not a good sign to me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:23:29pm

READ THIS TWEET STORM

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:24:20pm

re: #201 Decatur Deb

Charter schools are a significant item in Trump’s AA ‘outreach”.

Charter schools in most cases are a sneaky way to re-establish school segregation, and/or include religious instruction.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:25:09pm
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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:26:40pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

I need to read more about her but if our educators like yourself and SFZ don’t like her, that’s not a good sign to me.

BTW, reload my 211. I borked the link to Ravitch’s blog.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:26:52pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:28:07pm

re: #215 wheat-dogg

Charter schools in most cases are a sneaky way to re-establish school segregation, and/or include religious instruction.

It’s actually “poor man’s re-segregation”, for those who can’t bite the bullet and pay for upscale private segregation academies.

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nines09  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:28:52pm

Truth. Besides the fact Johnny Weeds is 65…… What the hell…. going on 7 Dale Pale left…..

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:30:26pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

I need to read more about her but if our educators like yourself and SFZ don’t like her, that’s not a good sign to me.

Rhee is all about self-promotion as an “experienced education reform expert,” but her actual track record belies that claim. After she left as chancellor of the DC school system, there was a huge scandal about teachers falsifying students’ standardized test answers, to raise the schools’ overall scores. The tests were established by Rhee, and she had bragged that the higher scores verified her educational policies worked.

She and Trump are birds of a feather.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:30:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:31:22pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:31:45pm

“School choice” is about as Orwellian a phrase as you can get. You get cut a check, you don’t actually get a choice where your child goes. Why? Because those private schools you want your darlin’ in will just raise their tuition rates to keep’em out, the charter schools will remain diploma mills, and that check ain’t gonna be able to allow you to move to neighborhoods where the “good” schools are. The purpose of “school choice” is simply re-segregation, returning things back to the days when minority schools were poorly funded rat-traps while white schools were the best because they got plenty of funding.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:32:15pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Jesus, someone that was cited as an inspiration in Breivik’s manifesto is now in the White House.

Twilight zone, WTF

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mmmirele  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:32:33pm

re: #212 Kragar

I read It Can’t Happen Here two weeks ago. It’s eerie.

I’m on vacation until next Monday, so I went out to that “church” I picket on Sundays because they’re having a “Pastors School.” I arrived later than I should have, but I did get a couple of attendees giving me pop-eyed looks. I was also surprised that the church hired an off-duty Scottsdale cop to patrol, presumably looking for me. I had a good conversation with a neighborhood guy who identified himself as a Christian but wanted to know if Driscoll was a bad guy. I think I satisfied that itch when I told him Driscoll made $650K in 2014.

I got curious after I got back from Scottsdale, wondering how much it costs to have a rent-a-cop. Well, it’s $42.13/hour. I did some number crunching, and at minimum, Mark Driscoll has spent $2,864.84 on off-duty police. This doesn’t include the several volunteers he’s got deployed as “security.” All for a fat, middle-aged woman with intermittent sciatica.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:33:14pm

re: #217 wheat-dogg

BTW, reload my 211. I borked the link to Ravitch’s blog.

Thanks.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:33:52pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

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Really, the funniest thing here is that Ben Carson has decided he won’t take a job with this administration. I guess even he sees what a train wreck this is turning out to be and wants no part of it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:35:15pm

For those who have been following, I’m writing a short story set in the Spanish Civil War but using a lot of the modern parellels.
Miguel Juan Lopez had been captured by the Nationalist forces. He and his squadron of Republicans had started out the Civil War as just defenders of the Republic but two long years of Civil War had radicalized them. The Nationalists that caught them reviewed them as they prepared to execute them. A familiar face approached Lopez. Where did he know this face from? He figured he would soon breathe his last so he felt no harm in yelling out “Pedro, Pedro Iglesias, is that really you?” A vaguely familiar face turned and starred. The fascist’s face, undistinguishable before became friendly.
“Miguel, what are you doing among this socialist swine?”, asked Pedro
“I could ask the same of why you fight for fascists who want to take away the rights of the people.”, Miguel replied.
The two men had known each other as boys. Both their fathers were part of Spain’s pre-Republican elite but Pedro’s father’s job had taken him to far away from where they grew up and they had lost touch. Miguel had embraced Marxism in college. He wanted to be a lawyer, a fighter for the people. Pedro had presumably joined the army as his father before him and joined the officers’ rebellion against the Republic two years ago. Scenes like this had happened across Spain the past two years where old friends found themselves new enemies.
As he starred into his old friends’ eyes, Juan Miguel tried to remember how he got this point. He remembered Pedro well. They had been very good friends as boys. He remembered the nervousness both felt as they made their first confessions to Father Marin. They would play children’s games in the Spanish countryside together in the summer as day turned into night. The boys’ fathers weren’t friends but everyone who knew Pedro and Juan Miguel knew their friendship was strong. Neither of them could imagine an event overtaking them. Pedro’s family moved the year before the Republican was declared, his father transferred to a town on the other side of the country. It was said that Juan Miguel cried for weeks and didn’t speak to anyone for days after his friend had left. He recovered eventually and made new friends but it was tough getting over the loss of a dear friend. And then in 1931, five years before the rebellion, the Republic was declared. Juan Miguel’s father, though an officer always had a fierce independent streak and embraced the news. He would gladly serve the new Republic just as eagerly he did the king.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:35:20pm

From Balloon Juice, because I think the advice is important:

The last week has been hard on everyone. I have two ideas that help with that. The first is to get involved in resisting this bullshit. I already put some ideas up, some of which people might have misunderstood. I don’t want you to go hug a Trump voter. Join whatever group you want. Join something. Look for a chance to link up with likeminded groups to defend American values in solidarity. If you are going to those protests, try to make some contacts to build a network. Strengthen your existing networks. The only thing I would add to this general good life advice is to apply some strategic message discipline. Having Steve fucking Bannon work in the White House should horrify my conservative neighbor down the street just as much as my own family. At the same time my neighbor’s reaction will different if I tell him you are horrible and stupid because you voted for this, versus this is NOT you and I know you did NOT vote for this, and I hope you will agree with me that this guy and the behavior he represents is not acceptable in the America we both believe in. Don’t go looking for Trump supporters, but if you can’t avoid it or you meet a reporter or something consider a little message discipline. A little media/communications savvy makes the difference between shouting and tangible progress. This is activism 101, and it basically describes our policy for dealing with restive muslim populations as well (don’t make your problem bigger than it needs to be).

But there’s something even more important - get some sleep. Trump is a chronic problem that we won’t be able to fight without rest. Like a lot of you I had a rough couple of nights last week, until I figured out something that I decided I might as well share. Stress tends to go to my stomach. I already take antacids/antigas once in a while, but this time they were not cutting it. So I tried something that sounds really dumb. I closed my eyes and counted all the things in my bedroom. Then I counted the stuff downstairs. Then I started lumping things into categories. Gradually the panicked thoughts about the end of western civilization gave way to the more important job of naming all the books on my bedstand. After a while my stomach quit turning and I have had decent sleep since. Now a couple times a day I stop and count the random stuff around me. It seems to help me keep a level head. If you think you might need something like this, try it and let me know if it helps.

In the first paragraph, he says what I’ve been trying to formulate. In the second paragraph, he talks about something I’ve been trying to deal with. I’m not sleeping very well, and I’ve lost about 4 pounds since the election. I am eating at every meal, and sometimes even snacking in between, but I’m just not eating a whole lot all at once. My stomach still can’t take the tension and a whole lot of food. At some level, it’s good for me, as I’m about 35 pounds overweight. But if something wakes me up at night, it’s nearly impossible for me to get back to sleep; my brain starts thinking about what needs to be done about Trump.

I think that part of what’s eating me is that there is so much normal going on right now. My fight or flight mechanism has nothing to fight or flee against. In part, because of my social standing, skills, and skin color, I may never be directly affected by anything going on. I’m not sure I can say the same thing about my children, especially since my oldest is gay. But I still feel something for all the people that I know are about to be affected. At the same time, being here in Rockwall, it’s hard to feel that there’s a whole lot I can do. There’s zero chance of running against any of the Republicans, since I don’t have that kind of money.

So, I’ve donated to two groups, and gotten a WaPo subscription. I’ll see what I can do next.

Yes, I’ve added a lot of ramble.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:36:03pm

re: #221 wheat-dogg

Rhee is all about self-promotion as an “experienced education reform expert,” but her actual track record belies that claim. After she left as chancellor of the DC school system, there was a huge scandal about teachers falsifying students’ standardized test answers, to raise the schools’ overall scores. The tests were established by Rhee, and she had bragged that the higher scores verified her educational policies worked.

She and Trump are birds of a feather.

I do remember hearing about that and she was the one heavily featured in Waiting for Superman right or whatever that one education documentary was right?

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:37:30pm

re: #228 Targetpractice

Really, the funniest thing here is that Ben Carson has decided he won’t take a job with this administration. I guess even he sees what a train wreck this is turning out to be and wants no part of it.

My estimation of Carson went up by one-half a notch. It seems Trump’s biggest problem now is going to be finding enough people to work in his administration. Not only did he have no ground game during the campaign, but his team apparently never considered lining up potential replacements for the Obama crew in the event Trump won.

Maybe they’re as surprised as the rest of us were.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:37:50pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

“School choice” is about as Orwellian a phrase as you can get. You get cut a check, you don’t actually get a choice where your child goes. Why? Because those private schools you want your darlin’ in will just raise their tuition rates to keep’em out, the charter schools will remain diploma mills, and that check ain’t gonna be able to allow you to move to neighborhoods where the “good” schools are. The purpose of “school choice” is simply re-segregation, returning things back to the days when minority schools were poorly funded rat-traps while white schools were the best because they got plenty of funding.

It’s something I really need to learn more about but I always had a problem with vouchers for the simple reason that they take money out of our public schools and put them into private schools which I think unconstitutional especially if those are religious ones.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:38:12pm

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

No disrespect to coal miners but I can’t imagine what it must be like to work for hours in a dark, sweaty, dirty mine way down deep in the earth. Just the thought of doing that kind of work makes my heart skip a beat. I respect the fact that that is the only job some people can get though.

I have been way down a hard rock gold mine. Down in a Sierra Nevada granite mountain. I could never work in there. There was a spot where we had to lay back and watch that rock ceiling glide by just a foot or two over our faces. Not going back.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:39:03pm

An architect of anti-immigration efforts who says he is advising President-elect Donald Trump said the new administration could push ahead rapidly on construction of a U.S.-Mexico border wall without seeking immediate congressional approval.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who helped write tough immigration laws in Arizona and elsewhere, said in an interview that Trump’s policy advisers had also discussed drafting a proposal for his consideration to reinstate a registry for immigrants from Muslim countries.

Kobach, who media reports say is a key member of Trump’s transition team, said he had participated in regular conference calls with about a dozen Trump immigration advisers for the past two to three months.

Trump’s transition team did not respond to requests for confirmation of Kobach’s role. The president-elect has not committed to following any specific recommendations from advisory groups.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:39:04pm

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

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Just to play devil’s advocate here, on a few of these items, it really isn’t a zero-sum situation. Many of the “lost” votes for these groups weren’t going to vote for a Democrat, no matter who the candidate was.
We can concentrate on a few of them, however that DID have a direct impact:

Jill Stein Voters/Blank Presidential Ballot (how many of these were hardcore Berniebros who were intent on sabotaging Clinton’s vote count)
Voter ID
Voter Purges
Voter Suppression/Intimidation
Media false equivalences

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mmmirele  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:39:40pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

I do remember hearing about that and she was the one heavily featured in Waiting for Superman right or whatever that one education documentary was right?

Yes.

Here’s national treasure Charles P. Pierce on Rhee back in 2013. This should whet your appetite:

esquire.com

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:40:45pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

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Based on that alone, I want Rep. Keith Ellison to get the DNC chairmanship just to get under Mr. Gaffney’s ridiculously thin skin.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:42:16pm

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

READ THIS TWEET STORM

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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:43:12pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

All he wanted was to win. He didn’t want to have to govern. This is going to be a total shitshow before he even takes the oath of office. I bet he tries to back out.

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bratwurst  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:43:21pm

Seems like a good opportunity to link my recent page about the fact that the current Israeli ambassador to the US seems set to accept an award from Gaffney!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:44:24pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fuck me, that’s horrible.

You want ISIS to get stronger?

THIS IS HOW ISIS GETS STRONGER.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:44:35pm
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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:44:36pm

re: #236 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Just to play devil’s advocate here, on a few of these items, it really isn’t a zero-sum situation. Many of the “lost” votes for these groups weren’t going to vote for a Democrat, no matter who the candidate was.
We can concentrate on a few of them, however that DID have a direct impact:

Jill Stein Voters/Blank Presidential Ballot (how many of these were hardcore Berniebros who were intent on sabotaging Clinton’s vote count)
Voter ID
Voter Purges
Voter Suppression/Intimidation
Media false equivalences

I will always curse Jill Stein’s name til the day I die.

I can never forgive her for giving us Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:44:55pm

Trump cabinet selection criteria defined:

Willie Dixon Weak brain and a narrow mind

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:46:26pm

One other thing that eats at me is about 98% of the people I see around me either don’t care at all or are taking a wait and see attitude. It can be very hard to resist the idea that I’m the one that’s crazy for no reason. I know in a lot of cases we can fix something that goes wrong, but it just seems like we shouldn’t wait for this group to screw something up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:46:49pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:46:54pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

National registry fur guns? FUCK NO!

National registry for human beings? MAGA!!!!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:47:42pm

re: #248 GlutenFreeJesus

National registry fur guns? FUCK NO!

National registry for human beings? MAGA!!!!!!!

Obama coming to take your guns? OH NOES!!!!

Paul Ryan coming to take your Medicare? Meh.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:48:18pm

re: #248 GlutenFreeJesus

National registry fur guns? FUCK NO!

National registry for human beings? MAGA!!!!!!!

That would mean making it more like Canada if a national registry for guns was in.

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Kragar  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:48:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:48:36pm

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:50:08pm

So I had a discussion with a Trump supporter earlier this morning, the older woman who drops off the USA Today to our hotel during the week. We’d had short talks leading up to the election, but I’d had no indication before today that she was a Trump supporter. So you can imagine my surprise when the first thing she asks me this morning is who I voted for. Seeing as politics was something I was trying to avoid in my personal life, I pulled a childish “You first” and then gave a non-committal answer after she told me “Trump” that made her assume I’d also voted for him.

After that, the discussion (paraphrased) went:

Her: “So now we’ll be able to get rid of all those illegals.”

Me: “He probably won’t be able to do it.”

H: “Sure he will, he got elected.”

M: “Congress says they won’t give him the money to do it.”

H: “Well, there’s a new Congress come January.”

M: “Same leadership will be in place.”

H: “Yeah, well he can just veto anything that says otherwise, he’s the guy in charge. Because we really need them all gone, every one of them.”

M: “But what about the children born here?”

H: “Sure, they are here illegally.”

M: “So we should deport American citizens? Those kids were born here in the US, they’re citizens.”

H: “Yeah, but their parents are illegals, so they are illegals and they all need to go.”

M: “I knew people whose only crime was overstaying their visas. It happens.”

H: “Well yeah, they need to go too. Anybody who didn’t follow the rules should be gone. My grandfather took the citizenship test, he did things right. (This woman looks to be in her 60s or older, so granddaddy probably came over when becoming a citizen was “Can you read English and spell your own name?”).”

M: “There are states that say they won’t cooperate.”

H: “Well, he’ll just pull their funding. Look at Arizona, as soon as the governor there (Brewer) cracked down, they all left right away.”

M: “A lot of them left when the jobs disappeared during the Recession.”

H: “Yeah, well I’m from there and my brother still lives there, and he says there’s guys standing on corners all the time looking for jobs. Well, have a nice day.”

And no, that’s not an oversimplification of the conversation, that’s pretty much what was said in so many words. Anybody who tells you that these folks voted out of “economic anxiety” are actually overstating just how much of that “anxiety” comes from simple racism.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:50:43pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t even know what to expect anymore.

Jesus Christ what a fucking shitshow.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:52:11pm

re: #254 electrotek

I don’t even know what to expect anymore.

Jesus Christ what a fucking shitshow.

If you ever wondered what preparing for the worst meant, this is it.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:52:43pm

re: #232 wheat-dogg

My estimation of Carson went up by one-half a notch. It seems Trump’s biggest problem now is going to be finding enough people to work in his administration. Not only did he have no ground game during the campaign, but his team apparently never considered lining up potential replacements for the Obama crew in the event Trump won.

Maybe they’re as surprised as the rest of us were.

I think they were convinced a loss was going to happen. All that talk about a TrumpTV launch didn’t occur in a vacuum.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:54:03pm

re: #255 Belafon

If you ever wondered what preparing for the worst meant, this is it.

Does this mean buying guns? Because I should just set aside my opposition to guns temporarily for the sake of protection.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:54:11pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

I think it’s less about undocumented immigrants and more about resentment and the impulse to punish someone, anyone that seems to be driving Trump supporters. When they can’t find immigrants to punish, they’ll be looking for the next scapegoat.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:55:21pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

I do remember hearing about that and she was the one heavily featured in Waiting for Superman right or whatever that one education documentary was right?

I think so. She has fooled a lot of important people looking for quick and easy reform solutions into believing she has all the answers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:55:24pm

re: #254 electrotek

I don’t even know what to expect anymore.

Jesus Christ what a fucking shitshow.

I’m beginning to believe there’s really something to what’s been said about Trump’s attention span; that he’s swayed by whatever person he last spoke to.

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Mattand  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:56:42pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

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What you should have done was write an editorial declaring your total break from the American right.

Jesus Fucking Christ…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:57:25pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JFC.

Excuse me a minute.
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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:57:50pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m beginning to believe there’s really something to what’s been said about Trump’s attention span; that he’s swayed by whatever person he last spoke to.

Why hasn’t someone prescribed him on some Vyvanse or Adderall then? Jesus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:58:48pm

re: #262 Myron Falwell (no relation)

JFC.

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This is just nutz. These people just going through the Wingnut Yellow Pages and pulling out names at random now.

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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2016 • 6:59:01pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

I’ve told you and the other Minnesota lizards this before but when Al first said he was running for office, I did a double take. I mean I didn’t like what I knew about Norm Coleman (I had a couple friends from Minnesota at the time) but it was like huh Al Franken, well okay. Well he won on Obama’s coattails as you know and as you also know he’s been a great Senator. I never doubted Al’s intelligence (knew he was a Harvard man) but his dedication to his craft is one of the best I’ve ever seen for someone without a career in politics. Minnesotans are lucky to have him. He’s also of course a wonderful guy.

Franken was a big supporter of Paul Wellstone. I wasn’t sure about him when he first announced, but he proved pretty quickly that he knew his stuff and was serious about the job. I hope he wants to stay in the job for a good long time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:00:45pm

SHOOT ME NOW

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:01:22pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

It’s something I really need to learn more about but I always had a problem with vouchers for the simple reason that they take money out of our public schools and put them into private schools which I think unconstitutional especially if those are religious ones.

Ravitch used to be a proponent of school choice, vouchers and charter schools, but she’s too much of a scientist to ignore cold, hard facts. Now she sees the whole movement as an wide-scale attack on public education. Read her books on the subject.

The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education

Reign of Error: The Hoax of the Privatization Movement and the Danger to America’s Public Schools

Both available for Kindle.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:01:51pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:02:06pm

Only Trump can name someone that can possibly top John Ashcroft.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:02:15pm

ええ、じゃないか、ええ、じゃないか、ええ、じゃないか!

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:02:27pm

re: #258 jaunte

I think it’s less about undocumented immigrants and more about resentment and the impulse to punish someone, anyone that seems to be driving Trump supporters. When they can’t find immigrants to punish, they’ll be looking for the next scapegoat.

Of course. Millions of our fellow Americans are worried that their white privilege is losing value. Their kids and grandkids are taking up fewer and fewer seats in the classroom, those kids are finding themselves competing for college admissions and jobs, and the faces they see on the TV screen are increasingly something other than white. The country they grew up in and took for granted is slipping away and they realize it. The GOP has been tapping into that vein for years, playing to that fear but never outright stating it. Now comes Trump who just begin stripmining the vein, screaming that “those people” are threatening America’s inherent whiteness and if we chase “those people” out of America then it will be “Great Again.”

Right now it’s “illegals” and Muslims. But it’s going to expand as people who don’t see too many of either in their lives start looking for other scapegoats.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:04:06pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

SHOOT ME NOW

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Well, if we needed another sign that his mind is going, seeing his administration as a 4 year season of The Apprentice would be a strong one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:04:22pm
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:04:25pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:05:06pm
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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:06:06pm

Not even slightly close to ontopic but if you ever read your child Good Night Moon and have ever read Dune, check this out:

goodnightdune.com

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:07:43pm

Wow. A major move by Twitter today against the scumbags.

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Mattand  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:08:47pm

re: #272 Targetpractice

Well, if we needed another sign that his mind is going, seeing his administration as a 4 year season of The Apprentice would be a strong one.

I was about to Tweet “THIS IS NOT A FUCKING GAMESHOW, YOU FUCKING MORON!” at him, but realized that the Secret Service is going to be a lot more loose with who they decide to visit.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:08:50pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is just nutz. These people just going through the Wingnut Yellow Pages and pulling out names at random now.

No doubt looking at the pretty looking picture ads first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:08:56pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Wow. A major move by Twitter today against the scumbags.

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OTOH:

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:10:01pm

what in the utter fuck

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:10:02pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Wow. A major move by Twitter today against the scumbags.

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Too little too late, as always where twitter is concerned.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:10:44pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Wow. A major move by Twitter today against the scumbags.

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Yeah well, they’ve gone from Twitter to the White House.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:11:43pm

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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I strongly suspect that most of these recent picks are not Trump’s and are in fact Bannon’s.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:11:48pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Wow. A major move by Twitter today against the scumbags.

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About bloody time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:12:25pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

I strongly suspect that most of these recent picks are not Trump’s and are in fact Bannon’s.

Or Jared’s.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:15:01pm

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

Or Jared’s.

Or Patrick Bateman…er, I mean Eric Trump’s.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:15:36pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:16:15pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

I strongly suspect that most of these recent picks are not Trump’s and are in fact Bannon’s.

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

Or Jared’s.

Or even… both Bannon and Jared.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:16:23pm

Who needs Facebook News Feed when you have the Comments section here being more up to date and less likely to post bullshit partisan sources?

Respect to all of you for maintaining your integrity.

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Kragar  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:16:54pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:18:34pm

re: #132 Cheechako

We do have an important decision to make…do we call the new plan “TrumpCare” or “TrumpNoCare”?

TrumpCaresBigLeague

The TCBL. Best Medical Coverage Ever. You won’t believe how great this medical coverage is. You will get sick of how much care you get and how great it is. Great sickness. The Best.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:18:53pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Wow. A major move by Twitter today against the scumbags.

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I lost count how many times I reported “John Rivers Too…” easily one of the worst this side of floor-shitter Rage Furby to have ever inhabited Twitter.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:22:43pm

re: #257 electrotek

Does this mean buying guns? Because I should just set aside my opposition to guns temporarily for the sake of protection.

No. It is either too early or too late to think of guns. Let things calm down while more info is developing. Anything really threatening would take a good bit more time than the fools realize, and will have to ramp up visibly.

More important is your environment. Get into a trustworthy community relationship that includes organizations outside the Muslim circle. Form alliances and self-support groups. Get a realistic evaluation of the reliability of your police force. People are your protection.

Only if everything is clearly going to shit, think first of moving to safer areas. Guns are a last resort, and require determined training or they are worthless.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:23:00pm

I mean really, Bannon gets named to Chief Strategist one day, then the next Breitbart’s dream team of far-right nutters starts showing up in the transition team ranks. I’m sure it’s just a total coincidence.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:24:36pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Wow. A major move by Twitter today against the scumbags.

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A bit late, mate.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:24:46pm

re: #294 Decatur Deb

No. It is either too early or too late to think of guns. Let things calm down while more info is developing. Anything really threatening would take a good bit more time than the fools realize, and will have to ramp up visibly.

More important is your environment. Get into a trustworthy community relationship that includes organizations outside the Muslim circle. Form alliances and self-support groups. Get a realistic evaluation of the reliability of your police force. People are your protection.

Only if everything is clearly going to shit, think first of moving to safer areas. Guns are a last resort, and require determined training or they are worthless.

I’m still freaking out a bit, but not as much as I was the past few days where I was just completely out of control.

My only saving grace is the solidarity with my Latino, LGBT, Asian and black friends in times like this. We need unity, and hopefully this will spark even broader understanding and to watch our backs.

Thanks for injecting some much-needed reality to my fear-laden comment. It has never happened to me like this before, ever.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:29:43pm

So, Brietbart is claiming that the alt-right isn’t rooted in white supremacy?
Someone needs to tell the white supremacists that.

Racist fliers found on SMU campus

A controversial flier found on Southern Methodist University’s campus is causing some students to speak out about diversity and inclusion.

A flier with a headline reading “Why White Women Shouldn’t Date Black Men” was discovered in two residence halls’ stairwell on Sunday, according to a University spokesperson.

“To be honest, I think it’s quite offensive,” said Malachi Haines, an SMU law student.

The flier goes on to detail reason to avoid black men. It refers to them as abusers, likely to have STDs and produce children who are not smart.

The flyer itself (advertising a well-known neo-Nazi website) openly advocates the reader to “Take the Red Pill and meet the Alt-Right”

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VegasGolfer  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:33:03pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m beginning to believe there’s really something to what’s been said about Trump’s attention span; that he’s swayed by whatever person he last spoke to.

Damn. This really shouldnt be a surprise to anybody. The information is all out there. Books by David Cay Johnson and John O’Connell tell the whole story.
Hell, I was posting about these books over the summer, and by watching the events over the past few days about the incompetence of trump and his people appear to be surprising people, but not me.
The clown show is just beginning.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:33:20pm

re: #297 electrotek

I’m still freaking out a bit, but not as much as I was the past few days where I was just completely out of control.

My only saving grace is the solidarity with my Latino, LGBT, Asian and black friends in times like this. We need unity, and hopefully this will spark even broader understanding and to watch our backs.

Thanks for injecting some much-needed reality to my fear-laden comment. It has never happened to me like this before, ever.

Everybody is shocky, but we will learn to adapt. The community counts, and broader is better. By far most Americans, even most Republicans, don’t want the worst of the excesses their party has permitted to fester. Like most of the people in the world, we will have to do more planning for unpredictable, but unlikely, crises. We will learn as needed.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:39:54pm

re: #297 electrotek

You’re in good company.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:50:00pm

re: #301 Sherlock Hound

You’re in good company.

Cheers. I’ve made some dumb tweets in the past week so I’m also trying to limit that and avoid the toxic drivel that has made me go bonkers.

And I also have some deep seated issues I need to address.

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Chrysicat  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:58:36pm

re: #142 bratwurst

If Ellison’s truly anti-Jewish (for obvs reasons, he can’t be an antisemite!), that would be rather a dick move indeed and a reason for me to support the guy from Louisiana who announced on Maddow last night, instead.

Also makes me wonder why ol’ Birdie Sanders is pushing Keith.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:04:21pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

SHOOT ME NOW

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Idiocracy: The Reality Show

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:17:47pm

re: #120 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

cnn: “professor predicted trump win, now says he will be impeached”

Of course he will. President Pence was the goal all along. The GOP is nuts but not nuke the world nuts.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:22:47pm

re: #305 MsJ

Of course he will. President Pence was the goal all along. The GOP is nuts but not nuke the world nuts.

If they try it, the Dems better extract a price for cooperation.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:26:59pm

re: #303 Chrysicat

If Ellison’s truly anti-Jewish (for obvs reasons, he can’t be an antisemite!), that would be rather a dick move indeed and a reason for me to support the guy from Louisiana who announced on Maddow last night, instead.

Also makes me wonder why ol’ Birdie Sanders is pushing Keith.

If you’re talking about Jaime Harrison, he’s from SC not LA—he’s a good guy, but the lefties were howling because he lobbies for Podesta Group. I like him—he’s a hard-worker and has a great attitude, but what do I know.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:37:50pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

SHOOT ME NOW

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:40:29pm

re: #278 Mattand

I was about to Tweet “THIS IS NOT A FUCKING GAMESHOW, YOU FUCKING MORON!” at him, but realized that the Secret Service is going to be a lot more loose with who they decide to visit.

Come visit me, motherfuckers. I’m game.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:43:50pm

re: #306 Decatur Deb

If they try it, the Dems better extract a price for cooperation.

Trump will just outlaw democrats. Republicans would go along with that.

Muslims are the new communist threat. Trump, er al, are the new McCarthys.

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sagehen  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:25:46am

re: #303 Chrysicat

If Ellison’s truly anti-Jewish (for obvs reasons, he can’t be an antisemite!), that would be rather a dick move indeed and a reason for me to support the guy from Louisiana who announced on Maddow last night, instead.

Also makes me wonder why ol’ Birdie Sanders is pushing Keith.

I have no reason to believe Ellison is anti-Jewish… but he’s a crap choice for DNC chair anyway.

They need someone who it’ll be their full-time job. A sitting member of Congress doesn’t have enough hours in the day to also recruit candidates nationwide, develop local networks to assist those candidates, arrange media training and campaign rules/strategy tutorials for those candidates, coordinate with the DSCC and DCCC on fundraising, etc

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:21:05am

re: #259 wheat-dogg

I think so. She has fooled a lot of important people looking for quick and easy reform solutions into believing she has all the answers.

And then it turned out her answer was “cheat on the test.”


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