Trump Chief Strategist Stephen Bannon Is a Fan of Satan. Yes, Really.

And other evil villains

There’s a lot to be appalled and disgusted about in this interview with Donald Trump’s chief strategist, the infamous white supremacist who turned Breitbart “News” into “the platform for the alt-right.”

But you have to wonder how the religious right bigwigs who lined up to support Trump feel when they read something like this:

“Darkness is good,” says Bannon, who amid the suits surrounding him at Trump Tower, looks like a graduate student in his T-shirt, open button-down and tatty blue blazer - albeit a 62-year-old graduate student. “Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s power.”

Bannon is also apparently committed to the utter destruction of the Republican Party, along with the economy of the United States. So he has that in common with his idol Satan too.

“Like [Andrew] Jackson’s populism, we’re going to build an entirely new political movement,” he says. “It’s everything related to jobs. The conservatives are going to go crazy. I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution - conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.”

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373 comments

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:02:35pm

Cthulhu is not amused.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:04:02pm

Is Satan Trump’s code name? Or safe word?

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:04:29pm

re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To

No, it’s Goldfinger.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:05:45pm

Note that, in all of his examples, populism means exactly the same thing as racism.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:05:52pm

Good luck getting that trillion dollar infrastructure plan through Congress, Steve. Trump will soon learn that being President is not the slightest bit like running your own company.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:06:53pm

Because the 1930s were just fucking AWESOME…

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Dr. Matt  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:07:03pm

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darthstar  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:08:16pm

Think about it. If Trump hadn’t won the election, we wouldn’t even be talking about Satan.

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:08:56pm

re: #8 darthstar

Think about it. If Trump hadn’t won the election, we wouldn’t even be talking about Satan.

There goes the belief that Trump’s Keyser Soze. /

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:12:16pm

Is he still a Republican?

Facebook Post

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:12:30pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:14:11pm

$5 says Trump cancels White House tours and puts a heavily armed military guard unit there.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:14:23pm
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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:15:27pm

Yocca’s case offers a terrifying glimpse of what a country without adequate abortion protection and access could look like. As women prepare for the inevitable assault on reproductive rights that President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence have promised to wage, those who oppose abortion rights should consider the life-and-death consequences abortion restrictions impose on women. Purvi Patel, the woman who allegedly self-induced an abortion and was charged with “feticide” in Pence’s Indiana, is another recent example of how women in desperate circumstances will risk personal injury and imprisonment to exercise their right to control of their bodies. If an appeals court hadn’t reversed Patel’s conviction earlier this year, she’d be spending the next two decades in prison.

Cases like these expose the hypocrisy of Republicans who gave full-throated disavowals of Trump’s suggestion that women be punished for getting abortions: Punishing women is the means and the end of restrictive abortion laws. Women are already penalized and shamed for seeking abortions in America. They’re blocked from abortion access by paternalistic state-mandated waiting periods, parental consent laws, limits on when a pregnancy can be terminated, rules that require doctors to lie about the risks of abortion, and pointless regulations that cause clinics to close. The Hyde amendment blocks women on Medicaid from abortion coverage in states that don’t use their own funds, turning poor women into political bargaining chips and imposing a punitive financial barrier on their rights to reproductive freedom.
We don’t know the precise circumstances or personal constraints that led to Yocca’s horrifying ordeal. But it’s no secret that Tennessee makes it particularly difficult to obtain abortion care. Per the Tennessean, there are just seven abortion clinics in the state, none of which perform abortions after 16 weeks of gestation. The Guttmacher Institute reports that, in 2011, 96 percent of Tennessee counties—home to 63 percent of the state’s women—had no abortion clinic, meaning some women would have to travel more than 100 miles to find one. Patients in Tennessee must get state-ordered in-person counseling from the abortion provider, wait 48 hours, then come back for the procedure. Using telemedicine for medication abortion, a vital resource for poor and rural women who can’t swing two trips to a clinic two days apart, is illegal in Tennessee, making it harder for women to access an increasingly popular option for an early abortion.

This is a glimpse into the future of reproductive health nationally thanks to a GOP intent on destroying a woman’s right to control their own bodies, and the criminalization of abortion. They’ve made it increasingly difficult to obtain abortions, which means by the time you’re able to location where/how to get an abortion, it’s often past the time when a woman can get one safely.

This increases the burdens on these women, and the GOP couldn’t give a shit about any of it - and they certainly don’t care what happens to the women or the children once they’ve forced women to carry to term.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:15:56pm

as exciting as the 1930s, … conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.

What could possibly go wrong?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:16:15pm

WTF is this shit? I’ve been #FollowFriday tagged alongside neo-nazi Neil Turner.

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:16:19pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:17:11pm
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S'latch  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:18:19pm

How long before the Christian Conservatives take their first opportunity to go along with the impeachment of Donald Trump so they can get their President Pence?

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austin_blue  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:19:00pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

WTF is this shit? I’ve been #FollowFriday tagged alongside neo-nazi Neil Turner.

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That’ll confuse ‘em!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:21:25pm

re: #14 lawhawk

“Yocca was originally charged with attempted murder; that charge was reduced to aggravated assault in February. Now, prosecutors have succeeded in raising the stakes to three felony charges: aggravated assault with a weapon, attempted procurement of a miscarriage, and attempted criminal abortion. She will stand trial on Nov. 28.”

Fucking hell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:21:31pm

re: #19 S’latch

How long before the Christian Conservatives take their first opportunity to go along with the impeachment of Donald Trump so they can get their President Pence?

I don’t impeachment as their strategy, but President Pence is their End Game.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:23:20pm
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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:23:41pm

Could Schumer’s statement about Sessions be any more mealy-mouthed?

“I know Senator Sessions and we work out in the gym, but the fact that he is a senator does not absolve him from answering tough questions in the confirmation process,” Schumer said in a statement.
“Given some of his past statements and his staunch opposition to immigration reform, I am very concerned about what he would do with the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice and want to hear what he has to say,” Schumer said.

Good to know Chuck and Jeff work out together and that HChuck is “concerned” and wants to hear what Sessions has to say. Has he not been listening to Sessions for the past umpteen years? Sigh.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:24:16pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:25:26pm

Since it’s a GOP controlled senate they can confirm whoever they want to right?

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bratwurst  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:26:36pm
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MsJ  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:29:21pm

Charles, that’s so quaint. The RR didn’t care that trump is a serial adulterer. The RR was cool with sexual assault. The RR is good with a multitude of rip offs, gambling and… you get my point.

They certainly won’t give a shit about this.

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austin_blue  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:29:27pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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The “Vigilant Patriots”.

They sound nice.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:29:36pm
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Archangelus  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:30:18pm

Good grief….

TheHill: Trump to Appoint Huckabee Ambassador to Israel

President-elect Donald Trump plans on selecting former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-Ark.) as the next U.S. ambassador to Israel, according to a new report.

Trump met with Huckabee, his former GOP presidential primary rival, at 2 p.m. Friday at Trump Tower in New York City, The Daily Mail said.

The Daily Mail said it confirmed Huckabee’s diplomatic post with an official from Trump’s transition team.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:30:23pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:31:08pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

WTF is this shit? I’ve been #FollowFriday tagged alongside neo-nazi Neil Turner.

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Random picks by some spammy malware “social media dashboard”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:31:15pm

And that idiot Woods would bark about Free Speech on his way out.

THERE IS NO FREE SPEECH ON TWITTER, DUMBASS!

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:31:42pm

I bet the religious right nut jobs are very confused about Bannon- weren’t they supposed to be having a Rapture and Apocolypse any day now? Now Trump’s henchmen are talking about simply re-creating an era of fascist despots?

They should feel short-changed by now.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:32:04pm

I have an interesting thought: Freeing the slaves WAS a populist movement, ending the theft of wages for millions of Americans.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:32:31pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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Expect a denial to be issued. This is just more ratfucking of the media.

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austin_blue  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:32:34pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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Payment to come from the Trump Foundation, no doubt.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:34:14pm

Lap dog media: it means nothing that David Duke approves of Donald Trump.

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bratwurst  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:35:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:36:17pm

And now it’s just a “possible” settlement.

Donald Trump Nearing Settlement Over Trump University Lawsuits

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MsJ  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:36:49pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:37:40pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

And now it’s just a “possible” settlement.

Donald Trump Nearing Settlement Over Trump University Lawsuits

You can be sure that part of the settlement’s terms will be Trump getting to say he “didn’t admit fault,” even though settling the case is a tacit admission that he knows he’s fucked if it ever goes to trial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:38:38pm

got my flu shot this afternoon so I’m good to go for another season.

now, if there was only a trump vaccine…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:39:20pm
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Timothy Watson  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:39:45pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

got my flu shot this afternoon so I’m good to go for another season.

now, if there was only a trump vaccine…

Or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, which I think it responsible for modern conservatism.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:39:49pm

re: #40 bratwurst

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Executed for treason and heresy. How … appropriate…

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:40:30pm

re: #24 BeachDem

Schumer’s still giving Trump’s possible nominations comity, which the GOP threw out when they refused to act on Garland. There’s absolutely no reason any Democrat should give any of Trump’s nominations the time of day. The GOP has brought this on themselves, and Democrats are still not wanting to play by the same rules.

There are some rules of decorum when it comes to nominations - that the Senate typically treats their own better when they’re up for nomination than they would from outside the Senate (private sector, or non politician), but Trump and the GOP have torched both in the current year. Schumer’s holding to the old rules, and the GOP has ignored them to their political advantage.

It’s time for the Democrats to come up with their new rules to deal with the fact that they’re in the minority and have little recourse here.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:43:00pm

re: #47 William Lewis

Executed for treason and heresy. How … appropriate…

It’s all part of the Breitbart Martyr Complex that every single one of them possess.

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:44:21pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

And now it’s just a “possible” settlement.

Donald Trump Nearing Settlement Over Trump University Lawsuits

All the reports were suggesting as much. But any settlement, regardless of the amount, would likely include the “no admission of wrongdoing” nonsense, and Trump would crow that he didn’t do anything wrong, when the fact that he paid out millions shows he did.

He couldn’t make it go away during the campaign, but now that things have gotten real, he’s had no choice but to settle. And it’s likely he’s going to pay a premium for it too. While some of the reports suggest he’d have to pay $20 million, that’s a huge chunk to someone who is as cash poor as Trump. So watch for a structured settlement at that (which makes things even more complicated when it comes to all those conflicts of interests with him, his business dealings, and assuming the presidency.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:45:10pm

re: #48 lawhawk

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Schumer’s still giving Trump’s possible nominations comity, which the GOP threw out when they refused to act on Garland. There’s absolutely no reason any Democrat should give any of Trump’s nominations the time of day. The GOP has brought this on themselves, and Democrats are still not wanting to play by the same rules.

There are some rules of decorum when it comes to nominations - that the Senate typically treats their own better when they’re up for nomination than they would from outside the Senate (private sector, or non politician), but Trump and the GOP have torched both in the current year. Schumer’s holding to the old rules, and the GOP has ignored them to their political advantage.

It’s time for the Democrats to come up with their new rules to deal with the fact that they’re in the minority and have little recourse here.

Chuck is following the same script that Harry did before he chose to retire, continuing to try to act civilized and serve under the old rules of decorum when the GOP long ago torched those. It brings to mind those analysis of WWI where the “gentlemen’s war” ideal died a slow and brutal death in the trenches. The DNC keeps losing ground because they refuse to abandon the rules and fight on equal terms with the GOP, expecting voters to realize they’re the “good guys” and reward them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:46:23pm
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m0nkeyb0y  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:47:34pm

re: #17 gocart mozart

Probably true, as Trump appears to feed on audiences.
But sooner or later I expect he will chafe at being told to do, or not do, something. The Ego will then assert itself and, combined with the lack of transparency and nepotism, we could have our own version of Saddam Hussein.

Imagine that, the Republican PE is making overt moves of such character right out of the gate, when they accused Barack Hussein Obama of scheming for years to do so.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:49:27pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Again, let us remember that the GOP and their wingnut base have spent years flipping the fuck out over every single dollar expended by the Obamas to do anything but sit within the confines of the White House 24/7/365. It’s going to be another four years of “So what if he decides to retreat to his own little Fortress of Solitude? He owns it, taxpayers aren’t spending any money on it!”

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:50:49pm

re: #40 bratwurst

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My history of that time is not strong, but I’ve heard that Bannon identifies as Irish working-class, etc. I was aware that the Irish liked Cromwell much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:51:05pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

“So what if he decides to retreat to his own little Fortress of Solitude? He owns it, taxpayers aren’t spending any money on it!”

Only if Trump ponies up for the security services and traffic disruptions

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:54:55pm

Yawn. Like whoever gets the job will be any better? There’s no reason to believe that Trump will pick anyone with experience or knowledge for these positions. Ideologues. That’s what he wants.

Or, he’ll float Ivanka for the job.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:55:56pm

re: #57 lawhawk

They really do play the media like a fucking fiddle don’t they?

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scottslemmons  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:58:30pm

Could someone explain to me why it’s suddenly terribad to reference geek interests in connection to current events? I’d asked on Twitter, and a friend sent me this article. I kinda get, but I also kinda don’t get it.

I know it’s not good to cocoon yourself in comfy geekery and never confront what’s up, but the rage I see about this in some quarters seems all out of proportion.

I suspect a lot of it boils down to “You’re not doing what I think is important, so you SUCK” but I do want to see if there’s actually something else pushing this whole thing…

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MsJ  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:58:58pm

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

They really do play the media like a fucking fiddle don’t they?

Yup. Make me look stupid as often as possible to discredit them early and often.

The media was chumps before and during the election and are running down the road now. Dumbasses. Faces, noses, spite and all that.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 18, 2016 • 12:59:35pm

re: #57 lawhawk

REAKING: Trump team official tells @TheIJR reports on Mike Huckabee being named ambassador to Israel are not true ijr.com

— Jason Howerton (@jason_howerton) November 18, 2016

Huckster is going to be Trump’s cabana boy for the next 4 years.

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makeitstop  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:03:48pm

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

They really do play the media like a fucking fiddle don’t they?

Alouette had them pegged early on. They’re making the media dance.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:04:18pm

re: #61 Dr. Matt

Huckster is going to be Trump’s cabana boy for the next 4 years.

Santorum is going to be so disappointed. He really wanted that job.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:04:38pm

Hmm. I have a problem with a document I’m working on. I created it in Openoffice/LibreOffice and exported it as PDF. Now when I attempt to send a link to people the preveiw - say if I linked it into this post - shows up as the data of the pdf rather than a WYSIWYG view. Here at my computer, the PDF views, prints, etc just fine.

Any ideas what might be wrong?

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Franklin  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:05:09pm
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nines09  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:05:10pm

re: #63 Romantic Heretic

Santorum can polish Trump’s mini balls.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:06:50pm

re: #57 lawhawk

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Yawn. Like whoever gets the job will be any better? There’s no reason to believe that Trump will pick anyone with experience or knowledge for these positions. Ideologues. That’s what he wants.

Or, he’ll float Ivanka for the job.

Jared.

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austin_blue  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:08:14pm

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Jared.

I was thinking the same thing.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:08:35pm

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Jared.

Babushka, will you be my Mom?

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:09:57pm

re: #57 lawhawk

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Yawn. Like whoever gets the job will be any better? There’s no reason to believe that Trump will pick anyone with experience or knowledge for these positions. Ideologues. That’s what he wants.

Or, he’ll float Ivanka for the job.

Trump’s filter for appointments is not ideology. He’s looking for the most craven yes-men in the entire lickspittle GOP and white nationalist establishments.

Anyone who can’t suck a golf ball through 100’ of garden hose in 3 minutes or less shouldn’t even bother applying.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:11:05pm

re: #59 scottslemmons

Could someone explain to me why it’s suddenly terribad to reference geek interests in connection to current events? I’d asked on Twitter, and a friend sent me this article. I kinda get, but I also kinda don’t get it.

I know it’s not good to cocoon yourself in comfy geekery and never confront what’s up, but the rage I see about this in some quarters seems all out of proportion.

I suspect a lot of it boils down to “You’re not doing what I think is important, so you SUCK” but I do want to see if there’s actually something else pushing this whole thing…

To me, it looks like more, ‘We have to relate to those unemployed of the white working class!’ crying.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:11:27pm

re: #70 EPR-radar

I expect an increase of well endowed blonde interns at the White House.

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:12:54pm

re: #59 scottslemmons

Could someone explain to me why it’s suddenly terribad to reference geek interests in connection to current events? I’d asked on Twitter, and a friend sent me this article. I kinda get, but I also kinda don’t get it.

I know it’s not good to cocoon yourself in comfy geekery and never confront what’s up, but the rage I see about this in some quarters seems all out of proportion.

I suspect a lot of it boils down to “You’re not doing what I think is important, so you SUCK” but I do want to see if there’s actually something else pushing this whole thing…

I don’t know if I would get into a flame war about it, but retreating into a fantasy world is a piss-poor way of dealing with politics, no matter who is doing it.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:13:00pm

re: #59 scottslemmons

The author quotes Freddie DeBoer, so that’s a hint. He was run off of Balloon Juice for being an obnoxious Bro.

A lady I follow on Twitter, Ana Mardoll, has a spirited thread in defense of fandom as a coping strategy for this election.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:13:43pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

To me, it looks like more, ‘We have to relate to those unemployed of the white working class!’ crying.

I have always loved your humor.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:15:01pm

re: #69 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Babushka, will you be my Mom?

You just want pie.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:15:48pm

re: #75 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

I have always loved your humor.

I am a bisexual woman living in Trumps world.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:16:49pm

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

You just want pie.

Don’t we all? I was hooked on the peanut butter cream pie down the street, but their pumpkin cream pie will cure that.

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MsJ  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:17:29pm

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

You just want pie.

Don’t we all? 😁

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scottslemmons  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:19:11pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

To me, it looks like more, ‘We have to relate to those unemployed of the white working class!’ crying.

That’s kinda how I see it. A lot of the people who get angry about others posting geek stuff have also been die-hard Berniebros.

re: #73 EPR-radar

I don’t know if I would get into a flame war about it, but retreating into a fantasy world is a piss-poor way of dealing with politics, no matter who is doing it.

I’d agree with that to some degree. I first became aware of this when I saw some people griping about an author, in the immediate aftermath of the election, posting Harry Potter memes, which I saw as part coping mechanism and part trying to encourage disheartened Clinton supporters to keep their chins up. But a lot of the people posting geeky stuff have also been posting links to organizations trying to help.

re: #74 Sherlock Hound

A lady I follow on Twitter, Ana Mardoll, has a spirited thread in defense of fandom as a coping strategy for this election.

I think that’s something I’d like to see, if it’s possible to get a link. :)

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MsJ  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:19:49pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

Don’t we all? I was hooked on the peanut butter cream pie down the street, but their pumpkin cream pie will cure that.

Ima gonna make a triple coconut cream pie. Maybe this weekend or maybe for thanksgiving.

I’m also thinking of passing on the turkey and going prime rib roast with horseradish cream sauce.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:21:38pm

re: #81 MsJ

Ima gonna make a triple coconut cream pie. Maybe this weekend or maybe for thanksgiving.

I’m also thinking of passing on the turkey and going prime rib roast with horseradish cream sauce.

I make a great pumpkin pie, but I have to try a pumpkin cream pie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:21:57pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

“There’s room at the top they’re telling you still,
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill.
A working class hero is something to be.”

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baileylamb  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:23:15pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

As classy as his ill fitting jacket. Seriously, that button looks as strained as our republic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:25:32pm

OK looks like they did settle. Trump does not have to admit guilt. #CrimingWhileWhite

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:25:37pm

Hi chair. I like you chair. You don’t move, and you hold me up, and it just makes everything better.

(Ten miles in 2:05:15, for an average pace of 12:32.)

In local news:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:26:39pm

re: #86 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For a moment there I thought that was snow!

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:27:33pm

re: #86 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hi chair. I like you chair. You don’t move, and you hold me up, and it just makes everything better.

(Ten miles in 2:05:15, for an average pace of 12:32.)

In local news:

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:28:20pm

Driftglass really does have a way with words. Commenting on the Sessions AG nomination: “A rising fascism lifts all jackboots…”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:28:41pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

It’s apparently flame retardant.

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baileylamb  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:29:07pm

re: #86 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hi chair. I like you chair. You don’t move, and you hold me up, and it just makes everything better.

(Ten miles in 2:05:15, for an average pace of 12:32.)

In local news:

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That can’t be real! O_o

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:29:20pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:30:34pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

Always paying his way out of shit. Man. This guy.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:30:58pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

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An NDA wouldn’t surprise me; it’s fairly typical in settlements, especially high-profile ones.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:31:06pm

This one has the foam in his head.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:31:14pm

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

For a moment there I thought that was snow!

Also I can really only wish. Like you have no idea.

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darthstar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:32:06pm

Shit like this makes me cringe when I see it.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:39:03pm

re: #19 S’latch

How long before the Christian Conservatives take their first opportunity to go along with the impeachment of Donald Trump so they can get their President Pence?

I have been saying that for a while. The religious right are just behind tRump as an end around, pretty much knowing he will probably fuck up and then it will be their man Pence.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:40:10pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

“There’s room at the top they’re telling you still,
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill.
A working class hero is something to be.”

A good cover…

Green Day - Working Class Hero (Live American Idol) (Restored to Blu-Ray Quality)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:43:02pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:43:16pm

re: #97 darthstar

The good news is that we won’t hear anything like that from the Trump administration.

The bad news is that IT security breaches will happen all the time with the Trump Circus, but will be pre-empted in the news by greater catastrophes.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:44:42pm

+h49cEP+3hHw1qqjEeVSH8bYzSXsUDqgEBLytmi3Dc1ZGNw0R7jsyrsSR2JXB4aY5EpjfRVZjkXLP94OIL7uniQHImyslgBs6we0aMJAEGsIPtuto5Twcp/qKgQAyFfiAWdP1rYPGMG8ub9N4Onb2NAhXdpKH0fP1olPeT+MCcK5FuXaKyloGOgoKrMd9UtF6YEaRRrlW12kgAWswN5uZCT2UnxxHOlkIV+HxivRnAS+Spo7yzz9ZmrT6sKCyt4qUKq6anQhtqajzAXB7u0HQEkoYJSoKJolofT89ys4MARieQzBw1LMiC9e9lYcFVKwWFCvgyFM2DI=

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:45:24pm

re: #98 Eventual Carrion

I have been saying that for a while. The religious right are just behind tRump as an end around, pretty much knowing he will probably fuck up and then it will be their man Pence.

If I were advising on strategy for congressional Democrats, I think my advice would be no D votes for impeaching Trump unless Pence not being the new POTUS is part of the deal.

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:46:32pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

These are also seen as wonderful qualities by nearly every Republican. The rot runs deep.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:47:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:48:34pm

re: #103 EPR-radar

If I were advising on strategy for congressional Democrats, I think my advice would be no D votes for impeaching Trump unless Pence not being the new POTUS is part of the deal.

That’s why I was always apprehensive about impeaching Bush, that Cheney guy.

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:49:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:49:26pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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And yet they’ll still insist government is the problem while being it themselves.

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:50:37pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

That’s why I was always apprehensive about impeaching Bush, that Cheney guy.

This is why a proper impeachment exercise starts with getting rid of the VP first.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:52:02pm

re: #109 EPR-radar

This is why a proper impeachment exercise starts with getting rid of the VP first.

See Agnew, Spiro…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:52:10pm

re: #109 EPR-radar

This is why a proper impeachment exercise starts with getting rid of the VP first.

See Nixon, Richard and Agnew, Spiro. Ford wasn’t great by any means but he was better than Agnew would have been.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:52:29pm

re: #110 William Lewis

See Agnew, Spiro…

8 seconds!

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MsJ  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:52:58pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:53:48pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

Guy just rode his bike through the foam. Now police are blocking it off to prevent copycats.

especially after his skin peels off…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:54:05pm

re: #113 MsJ

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Surely w coincidence right? //

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:54:43pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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And then, like now, the administration in office decided that major banks should be allowed to fail and that the economy would right itself because the free market could be trusted to fix its own problems.

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stpaulbear  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:56:43pm

re: #90 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s apparently flame retardant.

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Too bad Steve McQueen isn’t still around.

Trailer - The Blob (1958)

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darthstar  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:56:48pm

Oh, look…a known carcinogen has flooded the streets surrounding the airport! What fun!

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:56:53pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

8 seconds!

Plus Ford was an honorable man who was interested in serving America rather than himself. If only we had any republicans like that anymore.

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Lancelot Link  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:57:36pm

re: #74 Sherlock Hound

The author quotes Freddie DeBoer, so that’s a hint. He was run off of Balloon Juice for being an obnoxious Bro.

The same Freddie DeBoer who wrote articles for Jared Kushner’s NY Observer slamming Clinton from the left. Yeah, HE has real credibility.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:58:24pm

re: #119 William Lewis

Plus Ford was an honorable man who was interested in serving America rather than himself. If only we had any republicans like that anymore.

Yeah Ford was a good guy. Really the last of his kind in many a way.

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Lidane  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:58:35pm

Flori-DUH Man —

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:59:25pm

re: #122 Lidane

Flori-DUH Man —

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Good luck with that one whiny douche.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 1:59:53pm

re: #122 Lidane

Starbucks won’t serve white people? Since when?

//

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:01:32pm

re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg

Starbucks won’t serve white people? Since when?

//

My coworker was literally there today too except he’s not a whiny right wing prick who expect everything handed to him.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:02:00pm

re: #57 lawhawk

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Yawn. Like whoever gets the job will be any better? There’s no reason to believe that Trump will pick anyone with experience or knowledge for these positions. Ideologues. That’s what he wants.

Or, he’ll float Ivanka for the job.

Why not David Duke? Not that that would say anything at all about Trump.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:02:54pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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In fairness, that’s amazing.

(Except for the chemicals known to cause cancer in the state of California.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:03:33pm

re: #127 Skip Intro

Why not David Duke? Not that that would say anything at all about Trump.

Maybe Trump is saving him for Germany?//

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:03:45pm

re: #122 Lidane

Flori-DUH Man —

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It’s hilarious, all these white guys who thought Trump being elected meant they could finally drop the masks and be total assholes in public without consequence are now whining that they’re gonna resort to legal action when their assholishness is not met with acceptance.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:05:19pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Dishwashing Liquid =/= Dishwashing Detergent

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stpaulbear  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:05:55pm

re: #122 Lidane

Flori-DUH Man —

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It would appear that he doesn’t embarrass easily…

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:06:22pm

Dumbassery is contagious. Ben Shapiro ruminates in it:

Trump’s infrastructure plan is a farce, and it’s fleecing of the public good in favor of pushing wealth to the rich.

That’s not what FDR’s infrastructure plans were.

Let’s see what FDR plans built:

WPA - everything from things like Jones Beach, National Park System infrastructure, bridges and tunnels from the Triborough Bridge, to the parkways.

CCC - National Park infrastructure, etc.

REA - national electrification project.

TVA - supplies water and power to much of the Southeast (and provided power to Oak Ridge, which enabled construction of Manhattan Project and post-war nuclear research/manufacturing facilities

Etc.

GOP solution at the time was…. crickets.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:07:18pm

re: #133 lawhawk

Dumbassery is contagious. Ben Shapiro ruminates in it:

[Embedded content]

Trump’s infrastructure plan is a farce, and it’s fleecing of the public good in favor of pushing wealth to the rich.

That’s not what FDR’s infrastructure plans were.

Let’s see what FDR plans built:

WPA - everything from things like Jones Beach, National Park System infrastructure, bridges and tunnels from the Triborough Bridge, to the parkways.

CCC - National Park infrastructure, etc.

REA - national electrification project.

TVA - supplies water and power to much of the Southeast (and provided power to Oak Ridge, which enabled construction of Manhattan Project and post-war nuclear research/manufacturing facilities

Etc.

GOP solution at the time was…. crickets.

Worse than crickets - “Let it burn”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:07:24pm

Aren’t these the same kinds of people who think businesses should be able to deny someone because they’re gay? Not that I really think political beliefs should get someone denied coffee or believe that he was denied because he voted for Trump. If you read the article, he’s got a history.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:09:00pm

re: #133 lawhawk

Dumbassery is contagious. Ben Shapiro ruminates in it:

[Embedded content]

Trump’s infrastructure plan is a farce, and it’s fleecing of the public good in favor of pushing wealth to the rich.

That’s not what FDR’s infrastructure plans were.

Let’s see what FDR plans built:

WPA - everything from things like Jones Beach, National Park System infrastructure, bridges and tunnels from the Triborough Bridge, to the parkways.

CCC - National Park infrastructure, etc.

REA - national electrification project.

TVA - supplies water and power to much of the Southeast (and provided power to Oak Ridge, which enabled construction of Manhattan Project and post-war nuclear research/manufacturing facilities

Etc.

GOP solution at the time was…. crickets.

GOP solution at the time was pretty much the same as it was during the Great Recession: Sit back and wait for the “free market” to provide. Getting people working, getting them paychecks that could feed back into the economy, was “socialism” and an abandonment of American ideals. No, the Galtian hordes felt that the only way America could remain “great” was if the businessmen benevolently created millions of jobs instead of amassing more wealth.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:09:07pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Aren’t these the same kinds of people who think businesses should be able to deny someone because they’re gay? Not that I really think political beliefs should get someone denied coffee or believe that he was denied because he voted for Trump. If you read the article, he’s got a history.

“We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone.”

I’m not sure, if I were he, that I’d drink anything. Never fuck with the people who handle your food.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:09:28pm

re: #133 lawhawk

Dumbassery is contagious. Ben Shapiro ruminates in it:

[Embedded content]

Trump’s infrastructure plan is a farce, and it’s fleecing of the public good in favor of pushing wealth to the rich.

That’s not what FDR’s infrastructure plans were.

Let’s see what FDR plans built:

WPA - everything from things like Jones Beach, National Park System infrastructure, bridges and tunnels from the Triborough Bridge, to the parkways.

CCC - National Park infrastructure, etc.

REA - national electrification project.

TVA - supplies water and power to much of the Southeast (and provided power to Oak Ridge, which enabled construction of Manhattan Project and post-war nuclear research/manufacturing facilities

Etc.

GOP solution at the time was…. crickets.

Shapiro is so full of shit. Can’t ever admit right wing shit is right wing shit.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:10:05pm

re: #133 lawhawk

Dumbassery is contagious. Ben Shapiro ruminates in it:

[Embedded content]

Trump’s infrastructure plan is a farce, and it’s fleecing of the public good in favor of pushing wealth to the rich.

That’s not what FDR’s infrastructure plans were.

Let’s see what FDR plans built:

WPA - everything from things like Jones Beach, National Park System infrastructure, bridges and tunnels from the Triborough Bridge, to the parkways.

CCC - National Park infrastructure, etc.

REA - national electrification project.

TVA - supplies water and power to much of the Southeast (and provided power to Oak Ridge, which enabled construction of Manhattan Project and post-war nuclear research/manufacturing facilities

Etc.

GOP solution at the time was…. crickets.

I was wondering what happened to him. Still as stupid as a box of rocks, I see.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:10:29pm

re: #80 scottslemmons

I can’t find the thread but the person is @AnaMardoll. This thread was several days ago when there was a kerfuffle about someone comparing the election to Hogwarts’ Houses.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:10:29pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Yeah, I am expecting an economic crash shortly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:10:56pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

GOP solution at the time was pretty much the same as it was during the Great Recession: Sit back and wait for the “free market” to provide. Getting people working, getting them paychecks that could feed back into the economy, was “socialism” and an abandonment of American ideals. No, the Galtian hordes felt that the only way America could remain “great” was if the businessmen benevolently created millions of jobs instead of amassing more wealth.

Their biggest problem was that their economic theory said that what happened was impossible. There was a brief ‘teachable moment’ till someone found an absolutely absurd way to blame it on Jimmy Carter and black people.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:11:02pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Aren’t these the same kinds of people who think businesses should be able to deny someone because they’re gay? Not that I really think political beliefs should get someone denied coffee or believe that he was denied because he voted for Trump. If you read the article, he’s got a history.

Ayep, the kind of white guy who thinks a business has a “right” to deny service to anyone, that it’s not discrimination if a business owner feels that serving a customer would mean violating his personals beliefs/ideals. At least until he gets denied service, then he feels he has a “right” to service and any business that refuses to serve him is violating said “right.”

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:13:04pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Aren’t these the same kinds of people who think businesses should be able to deny someone because they’re gay? Not that I really think political beliefs should get someone denied coffee or believe that he was denied because he voted for Trump. If you read the article, he’s got a history.

Dammit Happy! I don’t want to have to tell you this again.

Everything’s ok when they do it, because they’re all patriots with pure hearts. When they discriminate, lie, steal, and cheat it’s because they love the country so much.

Evil Dems are just looking out for themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:14:37pm

re: #145 Skip Intro

Dammit Happy! I don’t want to have to tell you this again.

Everything’s ok when they do it, because they’re all patriots with pure hearts. When they discriminate, lie, steal, and cheat it’s because they love the country so much.

Evil Dems are just looking out for themselves.

I know.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:15:29pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Their biggest problem was that their economic theory said that what happened was impossible. There was a brief ‘teachable moment’ till someone found an absolutely absurd way to blame it on Jimmy Carter and black people.

They always work under a binary system: If a Republican is in power then an economic boom can never go anywhere but higher, while under a Democrat any economic boom is a “bubble” that is set to burst “any moment.”

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:19:37pm

re: #133 lawhawk

Dumbassery is contagious. Ben Shapiro ruminates in it:

[Embedded content]

Trump’s infrastructure plan is a farce, and it’s fleecing of the public good in favor of pushing wealth to the rich.

That’s not what FDR’s infrastructure plans were.

Let’s see what FDR plans built:

WPA - everything from things like Jones Beach, National Park System infrastructure, bridges and tunnels from the Triborough Bridge, to the parkways.

CCC - National Park infrastructure, etc.

REA - national electrification project.

TVA - supplies water and power to much of the Southeast (and provided power to Oak Ridge, which enabled construction of Manhattan Project and post-war nuclear research/manufacturing facilities

Etc.

GOP solution at the time was…. crickets.

FDR also implemented his plan when unemployment was at an all time high, not historic lows like today. This plan made a lot more sense when Obama asked for it in 2008, but the Republicans blocked it then because they wanted to fuck over the first black President more than they wanted to rebuild the country. Now? If they want to work on actually decaying infrastructure like roads and bridges fine, but they’re buying against an already thriving commodity and labor market, low interest rates notwithstanding. On top of that I have little faith that these clowns could properly prioritize their way through Sunday brunch let alone a public works project of this magnitude. The capacity for grift is enormous and that I think is the real motivator here.

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scottslemmons  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:21:41pm

re: #141 Sherlock Hound

I can’t find the thread but the person is @AnaMardoll. This thread was several days ago when there was a kerfuffle about someone comparing the election to Hogwarts’ Houses.

I actually went hunting for it, and eventually found it. (Twitter needs a better way to search posts.) (Twitter needs a lot of things, really.) I remember the case she was talking about, too — it was an author I’ve been reading more of lately…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:23:58pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:25:57pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:28:28pm

Good thread.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:29:54pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

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You’re so punishing them so hard by giving them your money.//

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Lidane  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:30:06pm

Bruce Springsteen & Jimmy Cliff “Harder They Come” at Austin City Limits (SxSW 2012)

True story: I was at this gig. My hands are actually visible on screen after the 3:07 mark. Best show of my life, hands down.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:32:53pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

FDR also implemented his plan when unemployment was at an all time high, not historic lows like today. This plan made a lot more sense when Obama asked for it in 2008, but the Republicans blocked it then because they wanted to fuck over the first black President more than they wanted to rebuild the country. Now? If they want to work on actually decaying infrastructure like roads and bridges fine, but they’re buying against an already thriving commodity and labor market, low interest rates notwithstanding. On top of that I have little faith that these clowns could properly prioritize their way through Sunday brunch let alone a public works project of this magnitude. The capacity for grift is enormous and that I think is the real motivator here.

Unless Trump’s plan includes billions in money to retrain the people it will take to make his infrastructure program work, then it’s gonna quickly run counter to his whole “Deport’em All” plans. Skilled workers don’t grow on trees, and as we saw during the housing boom contractors are quicker to hire skilled “illegals” than spend money training “Real ‘Merikans” who might go and unionize in pursuit of higher wages and benefits. Oh wait, I forgot that he wants to basically gut labor and worker safety laws.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:34:33pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

Unless Trump’s plan includes billions in money to retrain the people it will take to make his infrastructure program work, then it’s gonna quickly run counter to his whole “Deport’em All” plans. Skilled workers don’t grow on trees, and as we saw during the housing boom contractors are quicker to hire skilled “illegals” than spend money training “Real ‘Merikans” who might go and unionize in pursuit of higher wages and benefits. Oh wait, I forgot that he wants to basically gut labor and worker safety laws.

Hey, if there aren’t at least 3 workers entombed in the concrete foundations of a bridge, you’re being too careful!
/////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:36:39pm
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Lidane  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:37:20pm

One more SXSW clip because all the Springsteen has me nostalgic now:

Bruce Springsteen w/ Tom Morello - The Ghost Of Tom Joad [HD] LIVE SXSW 3/15/12

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:38:05pm

re: #158 gocart mozart

“I’m Afraid Of Americans”

Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny’s in America
No tricks at the wheel
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Nobody needs anyone
They don’t even just pretend
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny’s in America

[CHORUS]
I’m afraid of Americans
I’m afraid of the world
I’m afraid I can’t help it
I’m afraid I can’t
I’m afraid of Americans
Johnny’s in America
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

Johnny wants a plane
Johnny wants to suck on a Coke
Johnny wants a woman
Johnny wants to think of a joke
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny’s in America
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

[CHORUS]
I’m afraid of Americans
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

Johnny’s in America
Johnny looks up at the stars
Johnny combs his hair
And Johnny wants pussy in cars
Johnny’s in America, uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
I’m afraid of Americans

God is an American
God is an American

[CHORUS]
Yeah, I’m afraid of Americans
I’m afraid of the words
I’m afraid I can’t help it
I’m afraid I can’t
I’m afraid of Americans

Johnny’s an American
Johnny’s an American
Johnny’s an American, uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:38:34pm

But to get back to the whole question of economic stimulus and timing, drastically cutting taxes and then borrowing a shit-ton of money when we’re at or near full employment and wages are FINALLY starting to creep up is a recipe for inflation.

It’s like, if you were trying to get your charcoal grill ready to cook on, and you’d dumped a bunch of lighterfluid on and lit them, and now the coals have all got a thin coating of ash on them and the grill is just ready for the burgers.

Then you dump a gallon of gasoline on it.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:43:43pm

A really good, really scary article by Sarah Kendzior.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:45:49pm

Okay I just saw some idiot on FB ranting about the “Alt left”.

What the hell is the “alt left”???

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:47:44pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay I just saw some idiot on FB ranting about the “Alt left”.

What the hell is the “alt left”???

A non-existent scapegoat that will be used to excuse away all the failings of the Trumpenfuhrer would be my bet.

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:48:10pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

Worse than crickets - “Let it burn”

There are large parts of the US that would still have no electricity etc. if it weren’t for the New Deal rural electrification projects. Some fucking gratitude from a majority of the people living there would be appreciated.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:52:57pm

Random observation. I think Games Workshop fucked up the Gorkanaut / Morkanaut models by making the stock pose look like a beer bellied gut-pile trying to take a dump. I mean, even by Ork standards these are some ugly models but that really clinches it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:53:36pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:54:59pm

re: #102 William Lewis

B9/6uTxX8ArVsqskJO9gL7s0W6+W2HxpYrdCrdy8lLBGbzPRf00Pm9b0YHc/5PrU2cgnkRBGvQg=

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:56:11pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay I just saw some idiot on FB ranting about the “Alt left”.

What the hell is the “alt left”???

My interpretation is the hardcore purity progressive unicorn-hunting idiots in favor of burning everything down because it will bring about their glorious revolution, who think racism is a secondary issue at best and fail to recognize that they’re happily supporting it. Kind of like Susan Sarandon or however you spell her name.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2016 • 2:59:03pm

re: #172 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My interpretation is the hardcore purity progressive unicorn-hunting idiots in favor of burning everything down because it will bring about their glorious revolution, who think racism is a secondary issue at best and fail to recognize that they’re happily supporting it. Kind of like Susan Sarandon or however you spell her name.

In other words the loudest whiners on the left edge of the political scale who, unlike their alt-right counterparts, have little support among a major political party. And note I say “political party,” because the Green Party is not a political party so much as it is a drum circle that pops up every 4 years and then disappears back into obscurity the day after the election.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:00:42pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay I just saw some idiot on FB ranting about the “Alt left”.

What the hell is the “alt left”???

Alt left cares only about economic class, doesn’t give a shit about racism. Assumes, at best, that racism is just an artifact of the class struggle and will go away with proper economic reforms / revolution.

In other words they’re naive as fuck.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:01:11pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:01:13pm

re: #173 Targetpractice

In other words the loudest whiners on the left edge of the political scale who, unlike their alt-right counterparts, have little support among a major political party. And note I say “political party,” because the Green Party is not a political party so much as it is a drum circle that pops up every 4 years and then disappears back into obscurity the day after the election.

Well, I mean, when you look at how shit the Democratic voters are as a whole at organizing and being consistent (hi midterms!), is it any wonder that the alt-left is a pale, incompetent version of the alt-right?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:02:21pm

Hadn’t seen this mentioned here yet.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:03:26pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, I was never going to fly again anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:03:54pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Hadn’t seen this mentioned here yet.

Jeez

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:03:57pm
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b.d.  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:07:32pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay I just saw some idiot on FB ranting about the “Alt left”.

What the hell is the “alt left”???

Greenwald
Sirota
Cenk
etc.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:08:06pm

re: #171 Unshaken Defiance

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scottslemmons  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:09:43pm

Makes me damn nervous when nihilists are controlling the political discourse and about to control the levers of power.

Depressing that we went from a period of hopefulness under Obama to being controlled by people who want to burn everything down and dance among the ashes and bones.

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jeffreyw  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:09:48pm
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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:10:42pm

Stonekettle retweeted:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:13:10pm
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austin_blue  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:13:37pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Hadn’t seen this mentioned here yet.

Yeah, because you really want the people keeping airliners from colliding being poorly trained and the low bidder.

“Privatize the profit! Socialize the cost!”

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:14:03pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Because he can. And because he enjoys it. Think of the people saying his name!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:16:49pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:17:07pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Didn’t Reagan start some shit when he tried that in the 80s?

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austin_blue  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:18:30pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t Reagan start some shit when he tried that in the 80s?

He broke the Union, not the government control of air traffic.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:18:40pm

re: #189 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Start calling people.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:19:23pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t Reagan start some shit when he tried that in the 80s?

No, he just used them as a union busting excuse. en.wikipedia.org

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:19:53pm

Just got a message from the Japanese consulate telling Japanese residents in America to avoid Thanksgiving parades, Black Friday Malls, or any other place where large crowds are gathering going in to December. Likely targets of mass terror.

I’m guessing that pretty much every government is sending out this kind of warning to their citizens in the US.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:19:58pm

re: #189 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Not surprised unfortunately.

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freetoken  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:20:43pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Hadn’t seen this mentioned here yet.

Trump is angry that the government air traffic controllers make his plane wait and not give him extra special preference.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:20:54pm

re: #193 William Lewis

No, he just used them as a union busting excuse. en.wikipedia.org

After they had supported him too. Ronnie sure knew how to thanks.//

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darthstar  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:21:54pm

Guess who’s coming to dinner…that’s right…you! And one of your squiggly friends…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:22:06pm

re: #196 freetoken

Trump is angry that the government air traffic controllers make his plane wait and not give him extra special preference.

and that aircraft noise problem he has at Mar-A-Lago.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:22:30pm

re: #194 Barefoot Grin

Just got a message from the Japanese consulate telling Japanese residents in America to avoid Thanksgiving parades, Black Friday Malls, or any other place where large crowds are gathering going in to December. Likely targets of mass terror.

I’m guessing that pretty much every government is sending out this kind of warning to their citizens in the US.

Probably ok this year - a competent non-evil government is still in charge of security. Next year though, bet on a major attack that will be used ala the Reichstag against American Muslims.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:24:07pm

re: #200 William Lewis

Not if you’re including the politicized FBI in your assumption.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:26:45pm

re: #201 Skip Intro

Not if you’re including the politicized FBI in your assumption.

The individual agents have not been shown to be corrupted only the Ringwraith in charge.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:26:46pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Hadn’t seen this mentioned here yet.

Tear it all down, indeed.

Not noted in the fluff-up about Boeing selling to Iran, is that Iran probably needs new airliners for safety reasons. I don’t know details of their airline system, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re struggling to maintain decades-old planes.

Then again, why would I think Republicans give a shit about people dying unnecessarily anyway?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:27:31pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:29:26pm

Just don’t blame it on drought because Donald Trump says it doesn’t exist.

102 million dead California trees ‘unprecedented in our modern history,’ officials say

The number of dead trees in California’s drought-stricken forests has risen dramatically to more than 102 million in what officials described as an unparalleled ecological event that heightens the danger of massive wildfires and damaging erosion.

Officials said they were alarmed by the increase in dead trees, which they estimated to have risen by 36 million since the government’s last survey in May. The U.S. Forest Service, which performs aerial surveys of forest land, said in a study released Friday that 62 million tree died this year alone.

“The scale of die-off in California is unprecedented in our modern history,” said Randy Moore, the forester for the region of the U.S. Forest Service that includes California. Trees are dying “at a rate much quicker than we thought.”

latimes.com

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:31:54pm

re: #182 William Lewis

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:32:27pm

Evening Lizardim. *collapse*

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freetoken  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:32:46pm

re: #205 Skip Intro

We are so dry here. The loquat trees are really suffering. The little bit of rain a month ago got the fruit going, but now the leaves are dropping.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:33:21pm

re: #62 makeitstop

Alouette had them pegged early on. They’re making the media dance.

Not just the media. He’s making his former adversaries jump too. He’s got all of Washington dancing and he loves not only the attention but the manipulation. This guy is going to trash a lot of American institutions while he is allowed.

It’s Nero fiddling his song while Rome burns. All from the top of Trump Tower.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:34:24pm

re: #207 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. *collapse*

Happy Friday.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:35:11pm

re: #210 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Happy Friday.

Only happy now that it’s over.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:35:15pm
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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:35:30pm

re: #206 Unshaken Defiance

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:36:24pm

re: #211 thedopefishlives

Only happy now that it’s over.

Kind of how I feel about today’s run.

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:37:11pm

Read the whole thing.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:38:26pm

meh. Everything is meh.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:38:37pm

Trump Appoints Julius Streicher As Commissioner Of Minorities

cnn commentators note that pick has been controversial in past but has remarkable communication skills and valuable experience in government and journalism

Hannity Praises Him As Fair Minded, Says Will Bring Much Needed Realism To Race Problems

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Scottishdragon  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:39:32pm

Stephen Bannon’s feast day….

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scottslemmons  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:39:54pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

A really good, really scary article by Sarah Kendzior.

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You know, I’ll go a few days and start to feel okay. I watch Trump’s goons and start feeling like their such stupid people, such egomaniacal, overconfident whackaloons, and I know I can trust them to fall over their own feet, to backstab each other, to lose control of themselves while chasing their obsessions. I know you could toss a handful of nickels off a cliff, and they’d try to chase them all the way down. And then an article like this shows up, and I can tell I’m doomed. They don’t even hate me, and I know I’m doomed.

So I’m gonna go write up my mini-biography, and I don’t expect it to do me any good. :/

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:40:15pm

re: #216 Scottishdragon

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:40:50pm

Oops…I was going to ask Lewis about his PDF file, but was late to the party and had him quoted here and forgot to clear it.

re: #97 darthstar

Shit like this makes me cringe when I see it.

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Have you a source for that? Or did I miss it somehow? I would be interested in reading more.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:41:51pm

re: #219 scottslemmons

You know, I’ll go a few days and start to feel okay. I watch Trump’s goons and start feeling like their such stupid people, such egomaniacal, overconfident whackaloons, and I know I can trust them to fall over their own feet, to backstab each other, to lose control of themselves while chasing their obsessions. I know you could toss a handful of nickels off a cliff, and they’d try to chase them all the way down. And then an article like this shows up, and I can tell I’m doomed. They don’t even hate me, and I know I’m doomed.

So I’m gonna go write up my mini-biography, and I don’t expect it to do me any good. :/

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Scottishdragon  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:43:35pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

Random observation. I think Games Workshop fucked up the Gorkanaut / Morkanaut models by making the stock pose look like a beer bellied gut-pile trying to take a dump. I mean, even by Ork standards these are some ugly models but that really clinches it.

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There would have to be wheels under the back end for the thing to actually be able to move.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:43:45pm

re: #176 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, I mean, when you look at how shit the Democratic voters are as a whole at organizing and being consistent (hi midterms!), is it any wonder that the alt-left is a pale, incompetent version of the alt-right?

The only problem (well, one of many) with MBFing alt-right with alt-left, is that alt-right is a cover for white “nationalists” and other hateful orgs, where “alt-left” are not so much racists as burn it down/class struggle/oligarchy screamers. Not saying that ‘alt-left’ give a crap about the struggles of people of color—just don’t think they’re on their radar.

I could be wrong—it’s happened (once) before./

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:43:58pm

re: #222 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hell is empty and the Devils will all end up in the Trump White House is one of those things that just has no upside. At all.

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:44:18pm
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Scottishdragon  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:44:27pm

re: #220 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

im afraid you’re confusing thomas cromwell with oliver cromwell

Yeah that would be correct. Drat.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:44:38pm

re: #216 Scottishdragon

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Wrong Cromwell. Thomas was the ancestor of the one you’re thinking of.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:44:39pm
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scottslemmons  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:45:09pm

re: #222 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Doom porn has always been my thing, unfortunately. I read one chapter of “The Hot Zone” and spent years expecting to die vomiting my stomach into the street. I read an article about electromagnetic pulses once and was convinced for over a week that the EMPs were about to drop and society would fall to pieces.

I don’t know if I’m just envisioning the worst again or if I’m finally the clear-sighted one. :(

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:45:26pm

re: #214 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Kind of how I feel about today’s run.

How I feel about this whole miserable year. And that’s just the stuff that’s happened within the walls of the fishbowl.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:45:47pm

re: #224 BeachDem

Yeah, I was looking solely at effectiveness with that comparison. Generalizing, which never ends well.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:46:07pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Why the fuck is he driving to New Jersey? Oh wait, that’s where his other “alternative White House” is. Has the man set foot in DC since his meeting with President Obama? Yo—Donnie—the job you took is in Washington.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:46:36pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Laser ablation is a promising method, if we can fire a strong enough laser with a steady enough aim and not set the atmosphere on fire in the process.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:50:23pm

re: #228 William Lewis

Wrong Cromwell. Thomas was the ancestor of the one you’re thinking of.

They both were beheaded(one after death, actually). gets hard to keep up.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:50:48pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

Random observation. I think Games Workshop fucked up the Gorkanaut / Morkanaut models by making the stock pose look like a beer bellied gut-pile trying to take a dump. I mean, even by Ork standards these are some ugly models but that really clinches it.

I have no idea what those are, but, for some reason, they made me think of Dewey, Louie and Huey from Silent Running

Dewey, Louie and Huey
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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:52:09pm
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Scottishdragon  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:52:16pm

Now that I remember, Thomas Cromwell was played by Sam Neil (I think)in the Tudors and got whacked after the disaster with Anne of Cleves.

I sometimes mix the name with Thomas Wentworth, which is what happened here.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:53:34pm

re: #234 thedopefishlives

I think this is the only legitimate use of a Nuclear Weapon.

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:53:37pm
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Cheechako  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:53:47pm

re: #226 gocart mozart

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Small potatoes for the trump Foundation.

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:54:13pm

re: #230 scottslemmons

Doom porn has always been my thing, unfortunately. I read one chapter of “The Hot Zone” and spent years expecting to die vomiting my stomach into the street. I read an article about electromagnetic pulses once and was convinced for over a week that the EMPs were about to drop and society would fall to pieces.

I don’t know if I’m just envisioning the worst again or if I’m finally the clear-sighted one. :(

The Hot Zone was extremely memorable. A while back I was at a party and was asked if I had a perfect memory because I remembered that book very well for having read it about 15 years ago.

How this for an effective intro? A ghastly blow by blow description of someone dying on an airplane flight from a Marburg infection, followed by the one liner ‘Marburg is ebola’s gentle sister’

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:54:31pm

re: #27 bratwurst

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:54:49pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:55:35pm

re: #230 scottslemmons

Doom porn has always been my thing, unfortunately. I read one chapter of “The Hot Zone” and spent years expecting to die vomiting my stomach into the street. I read an article about electromagnetic pulses once and was convinced for over a week that the EMPs were about to drop and society would fall to pieces.

I don’t know if I’m just envisioning the worst again or if I’m finally the clear-sighted one. :(

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:58:32pm

re: #131 Blind Frog Belly White

Dishwashing Liquid =/= Dishwashing Detergent

One of the companies I worked for in auto racing used to sell AFFF (aqueous film-forming foam) on-board fire suppression systems for installation in race cars. Some we’re multi-celled and big enough to fire into the engine compartment, the drivers compartment and in the rear if there is a fuel cell. I think it is a 3M patented chemical.

Just like a film of soap bubbles to trap oxygen and to also coat a surface as it knocks down the fire!

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 18, 2016 • 3:59:52pm

re: #122 Lidane

Flori-DUH Man —

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John Denver said what? Confused.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:00:30pm

re: #239 Ziggy_TARDIS

I think this is the only legitimate use of a Nuclear Weapon.

Yeah, but a nuke set off in space would bombard the upper atmosphere with a serious dose of ionizing radiation. While less destructive than fallout, I’m uncertain if the consequences of nuking outer space have been fully explored.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:00:58pm

re: #245 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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ive told some friends of mine not to assume that trump will get everything he wants, destroy everything, and subvert democracy and rule forever

despair is not my idea of resistance

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:01:30pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:01:35pm

I would have to say that Trump’s “Trump U” settlement’s including payment of an additional $1 Million in penalties for violating New York State educations laws should signify a concession of guilt.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:02:48pm

re: #248 thedopefishlives

I’m meaning at MUCH greater distances. Way outside of the atmosphere.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:03:09pm

re: #252 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m meaning at MUCH greater distances. Way outside of the atmosphere.

Yes, but the radiation would still propagate through space.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:03:55pm

re: #252 Ziggy_TARDIS

See this.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:04:17pm

re: #252 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m meaning at MUCH greater distances. Way outside of the atmosphere.

You still get EMP effects…depending on size of the weapon and distance (like, within the orbit of the moon)

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:05:48pm

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Scottishdragon  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:06:14pm

BBL

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:08:21pm

re: #226 gocart mozart

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Weaselone  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:09:14pm

Are we under the impression that the earth’s atmosphere is not being continuously bombarded by radiation and ionized particles?

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darthstar  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:09:53pm

re: #249 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

ive told some friends of mine not to assume that trump will get everything he wants, destroy everything, and subvert democracy and rule forever

despair is not my idea of resistance

Those who have been wondering when Trump would pivot will finally get to see it. He’ll back down on almost every one of his campaign promises. Sure, he’ll still be an embarrassment for four years and make a fool of the US both at home and abroad, but Bush did it for eight so we’re kind of used to it. And yes, he’s hiring people with a pretty solid track record of bigotry and general assholishness in their chosen professions, so we’ll get to scream bloody murder about that on a regular basis (though can we dial back the “new Kristallnacht” rhetoric for every appointment just a little? I swear, Twitter has become a goddamn Godwin goldmine…I can’t even stand to go there right now.)

Pick good fights and fight them well, but don’t expect to be able to fight all of them.

And be creative. It’s hard to find someone worse than the imaginary Satan to equate Trump with, so maybe try something a little more subtle, like comparing him to Megatron in a china shop…or Professor Moriarity at a church bake sale.

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freetoken  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:10:18pm

re: #259 Weaselone

Are we under the impression that the earth’s atmosphere is not being continuously bombarded by radiation and ionized particles?

The ions are a lie.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:10:49pm

re: #259 Weaselone

Are we under the impression that the earth’s atmosphere is not being continuously bombarded by radiation and ionized particles?

Nope. However, adding an additional, man-made burst of such is an unknown.

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Archangelus  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:12:48pm

OK, so President Electoral tRump settled this case - how many others are there against him that are still pending?
Excluding any suits filed by any of the women who have come out against him in the past few months…

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:13:04pm

re: #258 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

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According to Mika and most idiot Democrats, it’s about the economy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:13:07pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:14:14pm

re: #249 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

ive told some friends of mine not to assume that trump will get everything he wants, destroy everything, and subvert democracy and rule forever

despair is not my idea of resistance

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:14:22pm

re: #259 Weaselone

I think what they are worried about is this.

But I would think that we would be intercepting something at much greater distances than even the moon.

Any EMP/Radiation effects from it would be negligible at that distance, even with Edward Teller’s 1 Gigaton Nuke plan for very large Near-Earth Asteroids and Comets.

Following the 1994 Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet impacts with Jupiter, Edward Teller proposed to a collective of U.S. and Russian ex-Cold War weapons designers in a 1995 planetary defense workshop meeting at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL), that they collaborate to design a 1 gigaton nuclear explosive device, which would be equivalent to the kinetic energy of a 1 km diameter asteroid.[68][69][70] The theoretical 1 Gt device would weigh about 25-30 tons, light enough to be lifted on the Energia rocket and it could be used to instantaneously vaporize a 1 km asteroid, divert the paths of extinction event class asteroids (greater than 10 km in diameter) within a few months of short notice, while with 1-year notice, at an interception location no closer than Jupiter, it would also be capable of dealing with the even rarer short period comets which can come out of the Kuiper belt and transit past Earth orbit within 2 years. For comets of this class, with a maximum estimated 100 km diameter, Charon served as the hypothetical threat.

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:14:29pm

re: #262 thedopefishlives

Nope. However, adding an additional, man-made burst of such is an unknown.

Off the top of my head, I don’t see that as being worse than natural solar flare events (which admittedly aren’t jokes, but aren’t civilization enders either).

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Weaselone  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:15:00pm

re: #262 thedopefishlives

Please see Coronal Mass Ejections and Solar Flares. A nuke detonated in space is the equivalent of a fire cracker in comparison. That the source of the electromagnetic radiation and charged particles are man made isn’t particularly relevant to the impact as long as the detonation isn’t done within our atmosphere.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:15:03pm

Poor Octi.
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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:16:05pm

re: #268 EPR-radar

re: #269 Weaselone

Fair enough, I suppose. You can tell I don’t think on cosmic scales very often. It’s a limitation of the fact that my brain is hard-wired in gigabits.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:16:55pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not sure I am going to necessarily believe what a Ph.D. student in history has to say about ballistic missiles…

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:17:32pm

re: #183 scottslemmons

Don’t forget feasting on the entrails of their victims.

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:18:55pm

Charles Johnson,

Does Bannon somehow not understand that Satan and Darth Vader’s side are suppose to lose in the end?

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scottslemmons  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:19:45pm

re: #273 Romantic Heretic

Don’t forget feasting on the entrails of their victims.

I’ve always assumed when society collapses I’ll be the very first person to die facedown in a gutter. So at least I know I’ll provide important sustenance to some nihilistic Young Republican.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:20:04pm

re: #272 Timothy Watson

Especially when his only source is The Daily Mirror.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:21:07pm

re: #274 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

Does Bannon somehow not understand that Satan and Darth Vader’s side are suppose to lose in the end?

Only because they’re fictional characters. Things rarely go that well in real life. Cheney is still a free and privileged man.

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Archangelus  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:21:51pm

re: #272 Timothy Watson

Not sure I am going to necessarily believe what a Ph.D. student in history has to say about ballistic missiles…

Nor should you. There are so many things that are inaccurate or downright wrong in that “article” that I barely know where to begin…

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:23:24pm

re: #226 gocart mozart

But EMAILS!!! BENGHAZI!! THE CLINTON FOUNDATION!!!!!

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freetoken  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:24:13pm

Trump winning can be understood as a Japanese light-bulb deathmatch:

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:24:31pm

Our new AG:

SESSIONS: This was very improper language, and he’s acknowledged that.

TWS: But beyond the language, would you characterize the behavior described in that [video] as sexual assault if that behavior actually took place?

SESSIONS: I don’t characterize that as sexual assault. I think that’s a stretch. I don’t know what he meant—

TWS: So if you grab a woman by the genitals, that’s not sexual assault?

SESSIONS: I don’t know. It’s not clear that he—how that would occur.
motherjones.com

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:24:55pm
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bratwurst  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:25:04pm

Good news:

Bad news:

There is still plenty of time to pick someone even worse.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:25:18pm

re: #278 Archangelus

Nor should you. There are so many things that are inaccurate or downright wrong in that “article” that I barely know where to begin…

I don’t know much about ballistic missiles, but yeah, some of the stuff was just absurd to me but I didn’t have the technical expertise to call bullshit confidently.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:26:13pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:27:07pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

I like cats.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:27:35pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

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Looks kind of like my feline overlord.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:27:53pm

re: #286 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I like cats.

I’m headed home to skritch two.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:28:40pm

re: #288 wrenchwench

I’m headed home to skritch two.

My lap got ambushed earlier but now I am bereft. It is naptime, a very strenuous and serious undertaking.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:29:05pm

re: #241 Cheechako

Small potatoes for the trump Foundation.

The bribes gifts Trump will receive at his coronation will pay for that many times over.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:29:23pm

re: #281 jaunte

Our new AG:

He’s just awful in so many ways. Really the person I feared Trump would choose most for AG.

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fern01  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:30:03pm

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

$5 says Trump cancels White House tours and puts a heavily armed military guard unit there.

Masses of Trump supporters aren’t something you’d like to be around each and every day. No-one sane wants to visit the Trump White House.

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Lancelot Link  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:30:34pm

re: #260 darthstar

…I swear, Twitter has become a goddamn Godwin goldmine…I can’t even stand to go there right now.)

On twitter, even Mike Godwin is referencing Hitler.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:30:41pm

re: #289 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My lap got ambushed earlier but now I am bereft. It is naptime, a very strenuous and serious undertaking.

My cat has discovered that he can ambush me in my basement chair by jumping up on my lap going under the armrest. One time he startled me so badly I jumped, he bolted and left a nice claw mark in my thigh in the process.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:36:58pm

re: #226 gocart mozart

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Does this shut down any potential criminal case from going forward? Last time I heard, interstate fraud was a felony federal offense subject to RICO statutes.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:37:17pm

re: #283 bratwurst

Good news:

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Bad news:

There is still plenty of time to pick someone even worse.

Considering how Netanyahu came over here as a GOP toady I can’t say I give a shit who we send over to him.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:39:45pm

Just saw this come across my Hulu feed:

It’s only a TV series. Honest.
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:40:31pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:43:08pm

re: #205 Skip Intro

Just don’t blame it on drought because Donald Trump says it doesn’t exist.

102 million dead California trees ‘unprecedented in our modern history,’ officials say

latimes.com

Can they hook up to the Colorado river and create a sprinkler system?

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:43:19pm

re: #298 jaunte

The racists gave Trump the election, so he’s doing something to pay them back and keep them happy. First Bannon, now Sessions, and he won’t be the last.

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:49:17pm

re: #300 Skip Intro

The racists gave Trump the election, so he’s doing something to pay them back and keep them happy. First Bannon, now Sessions, and he won’t be the last.

The ‘economic hardship and distress’ argument always was wafer-thin, and current events are making that fact more and more obvious.

David Fucking Brooks is going to have to get his ass in gear to paper this over with bullshit both-siderist platitudes from his perch at the NYT Op-Ed pages.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:51:27pm

Trump’s Inaugural Balls (insert joke here): will Kid Rock and Ted Nugent play at separate venues or the same?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:53:38pm

This feels a little relevant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:54:29pm

re: #299 Barefoot Grin

Not sure how serious you are but I think a lot of the trees in question lie well north of any accessible river flow.

Not to mention the Colorado is strained as it is and it’s highly regulated. You’d have to get through a shitload of red tape to do something like that.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:58:55pm

re: #304 Eclectic Cyborg

Not sure how serious you are but I think a lot of the trees in question lie well north of any accessible river flow.

Not to mention the Colorado is strained as it is and it’s highly regulated. You’d have to get through a shitload of red tape to do something like that.

I was semi-serious. Meant to point out our long misuse of water resources, esp. the Colorado, to support bad residential, agricultural, and recreational practices.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:58:59pm

re: #304 Eclectic Cyborg

Interior Secretary Palin could just drain Lake Tahoe, but only after Trump Logging, Inc. is given a no bid contract to clear cut the trees of the Sierra Nevada range.

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Frankie Five Angels  Nov 18, 2016 • 4:59:25pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That worked out so well back in the 80s.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:01:39pm
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prairiefire  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:03:38pm

Bannon is so disapated he might keel over like Brietbart.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:04:24pm

Is the ADL starting to waver on Bannon?

Note: The link in the excerpt below leads directly to a Breitbart article by Joel Pollak.

Last paragraph of Stephen Bannon: Five Things to Know

We are not aware of any anti-Semitic statements from Bannon.

While there is a long fact pattern of evidence that Breitbart served as a platform for a wide range of bigotry and there is some controversy related to statements from Mr. Bannon’s divorce proceedings in 2007, we are not aware of any anti-Semitic statements made by Bannon himself. In fact, Jewish employees of Breitbart have challenged the characterization of him and defended him from charges of anti-Semitism. Some have pointed out that Breitbart Jerusalem was launched during his tenure.

Nevertheless, Bannon essentially has established himself as the chief curator for the alt right. Under his stewardship, Breitbart has emerged as the leading source for the extreme views of a vocal minority who peddle bigotry and promote hate.

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fern01  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:07:05pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Trump is driving to New Jersey and Lincoln Tunnel is shut down for his motorcade at 5 p.m. on a Friday.

White guy - no problems - only black Presidents have to worry about such things.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:07:55pm

re: #306 Skip Intro

Interior Secretary Palin could just drain Lake Tahoe, but only after Trump Logging, Inc. is given a no bid contract to clear cut the trees of the Sierra Nevada range.

Maybe our new President could take the remains of the forest and sell them as Trump Stumps.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:08:34pm

re: #310 CuriousLurker

Is the ADL starting to waver on Bannon?

Note: The link in the except below leads directly to a Breitbart article by Joel Pollak.

Last paragraph of Stephen Bannon: Five Things to Know

Hope the fuck not. Saw this today

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CuriousLurker  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:11:13pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Trump is driving to New Jersey and Lincoln Tunnel is shut down for his motorcade at 5 p.m. on a Friday.

E gad. I don’t think people who’ve never attempted to get out of NYC on a Friday can truly appreciate the hell that will cause. It’s what, 8:10 pm? How much you wanna bet people are still tied up in the mess he created?

Selfish prick. (Yeah, we already knew that.)

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:11:29pm

Benefit of this shitshow FEOTUS (that’s how I read PEOTUS every single time, know it’s a mispelling, but yeah)

I’m getting so much work done. HGTV is a better background sound than CNN for productivity.

I better win that craftsman in Ann Arbor.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:12:17pm

re: #315 Stanley Sea

Benefit of this shitshow FEOTUS (that’s how I read PEOTUS every single time, know it’s a mispelling, but yeah)

I’m getting so much work done. HGTV is a better background sound than CNN for productivity.

I better win that craftsman in Ann Arbor.

I like craftsman style.

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JasonA  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:13:41pm

Is it too much to hope that Trump staying in his fortified tower will be a turn-off to a lot of his voters over the next few years?

Or is that what they see for themselves in their fever dreams?

Asking for a friend.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:14:47pm

re: #316 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I like craftsman style.

It is stunning. One of the shows today did the whole reno. Looks nothing like it did before.

Stunning. Insanely beautiful tile work. I’d fucking move to snow for that.

Dreaming!

hgtv.com

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:15:18pm

re: #317 JasonA

Is it too much to hope that Trump staying in his fortified tower will be a turn-off to a lot of his voters over the next few years?

Or is that what they see for themselves in their fever dreams?

Asking for a friend.

Yes to both.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:16:10pm

Trump just tweeted:

I didn’t settle! Thought I was buying company that makes Settlers games! Jeff Sessions looking into this tonight after happy hour.

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makeitstop  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:16:32pm

re: #317 JasonA

Is it too much to hope that Trump staying in his fortified tower will be a turn-off to a lot of his voters over the next few years?

Or is that what they see for themselves in their fever dreams?

Asking for a friend.

I pity everyone who lives within 5 blocks of Trump Tower. They’re in for a miserable four years - no doubt we’ll see the famed Trump overkill and he’ll turn the building into an armed fortress.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:18:45pm

re: #272 Timothy Watson

re: #278 Archangelus

thus Naveed’s most obvious snarky response.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:21:23pm

re: #318 Stanley Sea

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:24:19pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:25:55pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:26:13pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

For the record, I do.

LGF and the community around it are actually one of my main news sources, because of that attitude. It applies to the pages but also to the stuff that shows up in the comments, which means I can trust that people are verifying what they’re bringing in - or at least will let me know if they fucked up.

I’m encouraging mr. klys to consider getting an account too for that reason.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:28:20pm

re: #323 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:29:18pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

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YES, we give a flying fuck.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:29:22pm

(Actually one of like 6 different calendars, but.)

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:29:48pm

I have just published a page with a link to a zip file containing a pdf of a pamphlet I have written to encourage resistance to the coming administration. It’s zipped up because for some reason the inline preview fails spectacularly with the pdf. I can email it to anyone who wishes, my link is blue.

If anyone would care to share it on social media, please do so.

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:34:07pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

The truth matters because it has to matter. If we give up on that, the fascists win everything — for all time.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:35:37pm

Wonkette headline:

Donald Trump Wins Trump University Lawsuits, Has To Pay Out $25 Million For Some Reason

wonkette.com

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:35:42pm
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CuriousLurker  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:35:56pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

re: #326 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For the record, I do.

LGF and the community around it are actually one of my main news sources, because of that attitude. It applies to the pages but also to the stuff that shows up in the comments, which means I can trust that people are verifying what they’re bringing in - or at least will let me know if they fucked up.

I’m encouraging mr. klys to consider getting an account too for that reason.

re: #328 Stanley Sea

YES, we give a flying fuck.

re: #331 EPR-radar

The truth matters because it has to matter. If we give up on that, the fascists win everything — for all time.

Seconding everything above.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:36:39pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh my god, that’s so much horseshit. Fake news bro! Where do I start with that youtube comment written by a Russian teen, posing as an article?

- 4,000 mph is not fast for something going into space.
- There is no such thing as a “super nuke”.
- There is no such thing as a ballistic missile that is “invisible to US detection systems” an can “evade radar”. If it shoots fire out the back, it’s detectable. End of physics lesson.
- “Make Hiroshima look like popguns” (paraphrasing)…. Uhm yeah, that’s been the state of nuclear weapons since the late 1940s.

I have secondhand knowledge of detection methods we had in operation fifty years ago that no amount of Putin weenie-waving could suppress or evade. And by “secondhand”, I mean I had family members running the hardware…

Edit: Not attacking you personally Backwoods_Sleuth, just amazes me that these things show up on a supposedly legitimate website without editing. Or is Salon definitely a joke now? I thought I heard it was.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:37:07pm
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scottslemmons  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:38:01pm

re: #333 FormerDirtDart

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God, the ’30s were awful almost everywhere. The Depression had the whole world in its grip, and the only people doing well were robber barons and Hitler. Bannon should just start wearing capes with high collars if he’s going to try so hard to be a supervillain.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:40:08pm

re: #337 scottslemmons

I read the tweet, but where’s the quote from?

Since the web is now a sewer of bogus information we’ve got to check everything multiple times before passing it on.

I speak from personal experience.

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baileylamb  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:40:57pm

re: #155 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I would say it depends on what region of OOklahoma he lIves in, in some places, it’s a little bit more complicated than that.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:41:31pm

re: #333 FormerDirtDart

” Many economic analysts have shown that negative interest rates can actually be a negative for the economy. Additionally, the US currently does not have negative interest rates. And the overall effectiveness of fiscal stimulus is not guaranteed according to economists.

Bannon also said that the movement created by Trump will be similar to previous periods in American history.

“It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution — conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement,” concluded Bannon.

Both eras cited by Bannon included large increases in the national debt, which Trump campaigned against. “
businessinsider.com

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:41:51pm

re: #155 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think this is good enough to show twice. It brings up a very good point of the kind of problem we need to figure out, which is how to change the expectation of the American dream to be that we’re all going to take care of each other rather than some will get rich at the expense of others. I still think we’re not going to truly solve it until we deal with racism. But the cultural issue of “temporarily embarrassed millionaire” is going to be a challenge.

I think it can be worked through, though. What do we all ultimately want? Food, a roof, time to be with friends and family, and the same things for our children when they grow up. I think we generally also want to leave the world a little better off for us having been here. We’ll have to figure out how to build on that.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:42:34pm

re: #266 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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the friend i had most in mind thinks there will be no more elections and very likely trump will start dropping nukes so we’re fucked that’s it

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CuriousLurker  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:43:25pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

P.S. Don’t even THINK about bailing on us now. You know these assholes better than anyone else on the internet, which is why rhey hate you so much. If you quit, they win.

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baileylamb  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:44:21pm

re: #341 Belafon

I disagree that many Oklahomans see themselves as “temporary embarrassed millionaires”

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:48:25pm

re: #335 Pawn of the Oppressor

Oh my god, that’s so much horseshit. Fake news bro! Where do I start with that youtube comment written by a Russian teen, posing as an article?

- 4,000 mph is not fast for something going into space.
- There is no such thing as a “super nuke”.
- There is no such thing as a ballistic missile that is “invisible to US detection systems” an can “evade radar”. If it shoots fire out the back, it’s detectable. End of physics lesson.
- “Make Hiroshima look like popguns” (paraphrasing)…. Uhm yeah, that’s been the state of nuclear weapons since the late 1940s.

I read the comments. About half were badly needed fact-based criticism of the article. The rest were herpity-derpity.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:48:26pm

re: #344 baileylamb

I disagree that many Oklahomans see themselves as “temporary embarrassed millionaires”

You don’t think they see themselves as “one quick trick” away from being rich? I grew up in Abilene, TX, and saw similar attitudes in the poor part of town I grew up in. On the other hand, the wealthier whites looked down on us. Because my family was relatively poor, uncles and cousins were very prone to chasing one scheme after another trying to make it big. And it was generally someone else’s fault when it failed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:49:06pm
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Belafon  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:50:52pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

The other day, she basically admitted that they hadn’t bothered governing the past eight years, and instead just ran against the black Democrat in the White House. Now they have to govern, or they’ll get run over.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:52:52pm

No words

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baileylamb  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:57:42pm

re: #346 Belafon

I think there are various different threads, almost all of them are toxic.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:58:56pm

so bannon sez he’s not a white nationalist, he’s an “economic nationalist”

COULD YOU POSSIBLY CLUE THE REST OF US IN ON WHAT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN??

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 5:59:38pm

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:00:50pm

re: #337 scottslemmons

God, the ’30s were awful almost everywhere. The Depression had the whole world in its grip, and the only people doing well were robber barons and Hitler. Bannon should just start wearing capes with high collars if he’s going to try so hard to be a supervillain.

“A low, dishonest decade:”

September 1, 1939

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:00:57pm

re: #352 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:01:46pm

re: #354 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:02:27pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:03:06pm

re: #355 Stanley Sea

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:03:36pm

re: #346 Belafon

You don’t think they see themselves as “one quick trick” away from being rich? I grew up in Abilene, TX, and saw similar attitudes in the poor part of town I grew up in. On the other hand, the wealthier whites looked down on us. Because my family was relatively poor, uncles and cousins were very prone to chasing one scheme after another trying to make it big. And it was generally someone else’s fault when it failed.

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Varek Raith  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:04:43pm

re: #335 Pawn of the Oppressor

Oh my god, that’s so much horseshit. Fake news bro! Where do I start with that youtube comment written by a Russian teen, posing as an article?

- 4,000 mph is not fast for something going into space.
- There is no such thing as a “super nuke”.
- There is no such thing as a ballistic missile that is “invisible to US detection systems” an can “evade radar”. If it shoots fire out the back, it’s detectable. End of physics lesson.
- “Make Hiroshima look like popguns” (paraphrasing)…. Uhm yeah, that’s been the state of nuclear weapons since the late 1940s.

I have secondhand knowledge of detection methods we had in operation fifty years ago that no amount of Putin weenie-waving could suppress or evade. And by “secondhand”, I mean I had family members running the hardware…

Edit: Not attacking you personally Backwoods_Sleuth, just amazes me that these things show up on a supposedly legitimate website without editing. Or is Salon definitely a joke now? I thought I heard it was.

1.21 GIGAWATTS!

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:04:53pm

re: #316 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I like craftsman style.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:05:58pm

Just had a thought about how American taxpayers will be subsidizing the entire Trump family for the time being.
* Secret Service and the rest of the administration’s traveling bureaucracy will have to pay rent for space needed in Trump Tower.
* Upgrades to security measures in Trump Tower infrastructure.
* Any time the family flies in the family jets, SS will have to tag along and pay their own way (make out the government checks to the various Trump companies).

I’m sure there are more examples, but I’ve already got a headache….

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:07:13pm

re: #360 BeachDem

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:07:30pm

re: #318 Stanley Sea

It is stunning. One of the shows today did the whole reno. Looks nothing like it did before.

Stunning. Insanely beautiful tile work. I’d fucking move to snow for that.

Dreaming!

hgtv.com

Have they ever given the actual address? Would love to see where it is in Ann Arbor. (I love Ann Arbor in all seasons except winter.)

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EPR-radar  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:10:29pm

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just had a thought about how American taxpayers will be subsidizing the entire Trump family for the time being.
* Secret Service and the rest of the administration’s traveling bureaucracy will have to pay rent for space needed in Trump Tower.
* Upgrades to security measures in Trump Tower infrastructure.
* Any time the family flies in the family jets, SS will have to tag along and pay their own way (make out the government checks to the various Trump companies).

I’m sure there are more examples, but I’ve already got a headache….

This is irritating, but it is also ridiculously far down on the list of things that are wrong with the upcoming Trump administration.

Trump is a mentally unstable fascist with real power who is presently surrounding himself with the scum of the earth who will also have real power. Meanwhile, the Republican party as a whole is transitioning from proto-fascist to fascist hour by hour, and most in the media pretend that this is normal.

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ckkatz  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:11:43pm

re: #335 Pawn of the Oppressor

I am thinking that the article was a pre-amble to an DoD budget increase request.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:21:58pm

re: #362 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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MsJ  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:24:04pm

re: #343 CuriousLurker

P.S. Don’t even THINK about bailing on us now. You know these assholes better than anyone else on the internet, which is why rhey hate you so much. If you quit, they win.

And we all lose. Someone needs to keep on keeping on. There are people who want truth. We need LGF!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:31:10pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Right out of the CATO playbook.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:43:30pm

re: #363 BeachDem

Have they ever given the actual address? Would love to see where it is in Ann Arbor. (I love Ann Arbor in all seasons except winter.)

Nope.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:43:47pm

re: #363 BeachDem

Have they ever given the actual address? Would love to see where it is in Ann Arbor. (I love Ann Arbor in all seasons except winter.)

I’ll let you know when it’s mine.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:47:39pm

re: #370 Stanley Sea

I’ll let you know when it’s mine.

I’ll be on your doorstep!

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wheat-dogg  Nov 18, 2016 • 6:49:40pm

re: #204 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Women in hijabi = ninjas. It’s coming.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 18, 2016 • 7:04:16pm

re: #248 thedopefishlives

Yeah, but a nuke set off in space would bombard the upper atmosphere with a serious dose of ionizing radiation. While less destructive than fallout, I’m uncertain if the consequences of nuking outer space have been fully explored.

It would depend on the distance. Nuking something out around the orbit of Mars would not affect us much, because of the inverse square law. Waiting till the asteroid got closer would be dangerous, but not because of the radiation. You’d just break one big, high velocity object into many smaller, high-velocity objects with approximately the same trajectories as the original object. I think one of those disaster movies proposed that scenario, but underestimated the damage a large piece of rock impacting the Earth would do the environment.

A stationary object left to its own devices would fall to Earth and hit it going about 25,000 mph. Add in relative velocities of Earth and asteroid, and that number could be much greater. Energy of impact increases with the square of the velocity, so the best solution is to prevent impacts, or reduce the colliding object to dust and pebbles.


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