Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:
Tennis Ball Machine: Back from Vacation; The Trump tennis ball machine keeps firing; Gaming out various Trump disasters; Trump vs Hamilton; Trump keeps whining; Trump demands equal time from SNL; Eff the Trump voters; Outreach to racists; The creeping Trump autocracy; Repealing Obamacare; Privatizing Medicare; Russia rigged the election; and more.
Just now on C-SPAN #ElevatorCam from Trump Tower lobby: @newtgingrich & @CallyGingrich pic.twitter.com/f2tkaUInOf
— Howard Mortman (@HowardMortman) November 21, 2016
Elevator Cam? Is it 1997? Is jennicam coming back?
re: #1 Charles Johnson
@HowardMortman @newtgingrich @CallyGingrich Newt The Forever Disgraced Former Speaker Of The House and page 53 in the Plastic Surgeons chart
— nines09 (@Mescalero09) November 21, 2016
So again revisiting thread upstairs: Has this ever happened between a President (elect) and the media before? Is there any sense in which this can be considered “normal” in any loose interpretation of the word?
re: #1 Charles Johnson
shouldn’t he be busy with his plans to steal Christmas… oh, wait, wrong guy
Full bore atavism:
Falwell meets with Trump to talk education
“I met with the president-elect and several of his top advisers to discuss what role I might be able to play with regard to education,” Falwell said Monday. “It was a very good discussion.” Falwell said he could not elaborate.
Epicentre of the Japanese earthquake https://t.co/KmAisaYCst pic.twitter.com/hh3VKfjIBN
— ForexLive (@ForexLive) November 21, 2016
USGS reporting M7.3
67km northeast of Iwaki (on Honshu)
More:
Earthquake hit at 6:01 a.m. local time
Depth reported at 10km
“Evacuate immediately from coastal regions and riverside areas to a safer place such as high ground or an evacuation building” JMA
More:
Tsunami to stroke within minutes says NHK
Height up to 3 metres on coast of Fukushima - NHK
news.forexlive.com
re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To
Elevator Cam? Is it 1997? Is jennicam coming back?
She was far more interesting …
re: #7 darthstar
re: #9 darthstar
It’s one of the more active places on the surface:
Japan is in constant danger of these events. I think it has played into the overall fatalism that is part of the society.
I’m feeling pretty beat down today.
Story after story of corruption emanating from the highest office in the country, while the people who are supposed to be reporting on this stuff gather for a nice little sitdown with this son of a bitch.
How the hell do we fight this? I’m at a loss here.
re: #6 freetoken
Full bore atavism:
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!
No, please, don’t answer that. I don’t really need to know.
re: #6 freetoken
Full bore atavism:
Falwell said he could not elaborate.
Words. Do they have something to do with education?
re: #6 freetoken
Full bore atavism:
Like I said downstairs, Bob Heinlein was only 4 years off. America was a great experiment.
re: #17 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Yellow on the map is tsunami advisory (between 0.2 and 1m). Red is tsunami warning (between 1 and 3m). Arrival is predicted at 30 past the hour.
When the Holocaust Museum has to issue a statement condemning Trump supporters pic.twitter.com/2KcLrMEgCM
— Ishaan Tharoor (@ishaantharoor) November 21, 2016
Fukushima about to get fucked again.
LIVE COVERAGE on NHKWORLD TSUNAMI WARNING IN PLACE https://t.co/XjLt2pXqpl
— Robert Speta (@robertspeta) November 21, 2016
re: #22 darthstar
Worth noting, for perspective, that their tsunami warning scale has another level that hasn’t been invoked. (Major tsunami warning.)
They’re taking this seriously, as they should, but this is not on the scale of 3/11. The world is not going to end. For most places, the forecasted arrival time has been gone by.
re: #23 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Per mr. klys, who has both channels (NHK and TBS) streaming: “standard Japanese emergency broadcasts. Repeat “get away” over and over while giving the predictions.”
re: #23 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Worth noting, for perspective, that their tsunami warning scale has another level that hasn’t been invoked. (Major tsunami warning.)
They’re taking this seriously, as they should, but this is not on the scale of 3/11. The world is not going to end. For most places, the forecasted arrival time has been gone by.
Well, it will, but not from this particular tsunami.
re: #22 darthstar
Tsunamis are hard to predict with much accuracy. Note that this quake is a one down on the scale from the big one that destroyed so much a couple of years ago.
Literal Nazi: “I am a literal Nazi.”
Media: “This alt-right reactionary is stirring up nationalist fervor.”— Kevin Roose (@kevinroose) November 21, 2016
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re: #13 makeitstop
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I am starting to think we don’t. If everyone is in on the con where can you possibly turn?
you know shit is bad when millennials start making PHONE CALLS
— may wilkerson (@shutupmay) November 19, 2016
Am millennial. Can attest that I absolutely abhor making phone calls. >.>
re: #29 klys (maker of Silmarils)
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Am millennial. Can attest that I absolutely abhor making phone calls. >.>
Does that make me a millennial? Shit.
re: #30 thedopefishlives
Does that make me a millennial? Shit.
I think we’re both stuck lumped in with that group. Unfortunately.
re: #31 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I think we’re both stuck lumped in with that group. Unfortunately.
I never really got a clear definition of the term, but I know they’re sort of intentionally vague.
Damn….
Magnitude 7.3 earthquake off coast of Fukushima in Japan. Evacuation warnings for tsunami.
— Motoko Rich (@motokorich) November 21, 2016
Tsunami warnings have been posted, and this is likely to strike near the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. Currently, there are 100s of storage tanks holding radioactive water that has been used to cool the damaged reactors, and it’s too soon to know if any of those tanks were damaged by this quake.
Also, I understand that the breakwater has been expanded, but not sure the extent to which it was done. The original breakwater was insufficiently high to protect against tsunami risk.
re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg
I am starting to think we don’t. If everyone is in on the con where can you possibly turn?
Cons need marks. Protect the marks.
re: #13 makeitstop
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We organize, we let others know, and get them to act. It isn’t going to be easy, but there are some tools. Democrats in Congress, organizations like the ACLU. And then we make it to the midterms.
re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg
I am starting to think we don’t. If everyone is in on the con where can you possibly turn?
That’s what I’m saying.
Are we even going to recognize this country in two years? I’m starting to fear we won’t.
re: #33 lawhawk
Damn….
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Tsunami warnings have been posted, and this is likely to strike near the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. Currently, there are 100s of storage tanks holding radioactive water that has been used to cool the damaged reactors, and it’s too soon to know if any of those tanks were damaged by this quake.
Also, I understand that the breakwater has been expanded, but not sure the extent to which it was done. The original breakwater was insufficiently high to protect against tsunami risk.
A 3 meter wave is nothing to take lightly. That’s a 10 foot wall of water - enough to dislodge buildings from their foundations.
re: #39 darthstar
A 3 meter wave is nothing to take lightly. That’s a 10 foot wall of water - enough to dislodge buildings from their foundations.
Yup. 3 meter wave is enough to redistribute the contents of a shoreline community thoroughly. Hopefully many living near the coast in Japan have learned the lessons from the last Fukushima quake and head for higher ground.
re: #31 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I think we’re both stuck lumped in with that group. Unfortunately.
Ain’t nothing wrong with the millennials. They’re generally some of the smartest and most rational people I know. Their primary sins seem to be that they’re young (Frankenstein: “GRRARR! YOUNG!”) and don’t have much money. (Frankenstein: “GRRRARR! POOR!”)
Oh, I meant to mention. One of my wingnut friends was flying his MAGA flag on Facebook earlier. Someone called him out, asking him when America was not great. His answer was telling: “America was last great in the late 40’s and early 50’s…” That’s the wingnut mindset in a nutshell, folks: The bastion of conservative Christianity, when white men ruled.
re: #30 thedopefishlives
Does that make me a millennial? Shit.
I’m a (late) Gen-Xer and despise making/taking phone calls. Prefer texting for causal conversations, and for work (lawyerly instinct) want email so that it’s in writing.
re: #40 lawhawk
Yup. 3 meter wave is enough to redistribute the contents of a shoreline community thoroughly. Hopefully many living near the coast in Japan have learned the lessons from the last Fukushima quake and head for higher ground.
They started calling for evacuations almost immediately…even before getting any readings from buoys.
re: #42 thedopefishlives
Funny how that era was also the pinnacle of power of labor unions, as well as Federal Income Tax exceeding 90% marginal rates for the richest.
Funny how important realities of the 40’s and 50’s cause instant freak out amongst the wingnuts.
re: #41 scottslemmons
Ain’t nothing wrong with the millennials. They’re generally some of the smartest and most rational people I know. Their primary sins seem to be that they’re young (Frankenstein: “GRRARR! YOUNG!”) and don’t have much money. (Frankenstein: “GRRRARR! POOR!”)
Millennials supported Clinton over Trump by the largest amount. No telling how they turned out to vote. I’ve got a millennial kid and he’s a good kid.
If Bernie Sanders is so against Islamophobia, then why hasn’t he denounced Tulsi Gibbard??
re: #47 electrotek
If Bernie Sanders is so against Islamophobia, then why hasn’t he denounced Tulsi Gibbard??
Gabbard. Gibbards are what you make gravy from…oh, wait…that’s gizzards. Shit.
re: #32 thedopefishlives
I never really got a clear definition of the term, but I know they’re sort of intentionally vague.
Defining generations is always hard because you never really have a bright line. Most say Millennials are people born in the early-80s through the mid(ish)-90s, possibly even early aughts.
I was born in ‘78 and consider myself a Gen-Xer, but I probably have more in common with older Millennials than I do with older Gen-Xers.
I was chuckling yesterday, went to an antique swap meet and heard some old (white) woman saying something about how this generation all get trophies for showing up and how it’s bull. I’ve heard the same thing from my folks, a few times. I pointed out that when I was a kid, we got trophies even if we came in last place (my dad was always a coach and didn’t remember this). I also pointed out that there’s a sign at my niece’s softball fields reminding parents that “it’s just a game” and that “there’s no scholarship on the line” and mentioned that signs like that and “everyone gets a trophy” is because their generation had to be fucking crazy about their kids winning.
re: #43 KGxvi
I’m a (late) Gen-Xer and despise making/taking phone calls. Prefer texting for causal conversations, and for work (lawyerly instinct) want email so that it’s in writing.
I’m hearing-impaired. Draw your own conclusions.
Poking around at JMA, it appears that only one buoy has reported any observations on a potential tsunami.
re: #50 Sherlock Hound
I’m hearing-impaired. Draw your own conclusions.
Lots of time listen to Zepplinn and GnR very loudly?
re: #48 darthstar
Gabbard. Gibbards are what you make gravy from…oh, wait…that’s gizzards. Shit.
Oops, simple typo on my part.
He sure had a bunch of nuts following him, kind of like Ron Paul.
re: #42 thedopefishlives
Oh, I meant to mention. One of my wingnut friends was flying his MAGA flag on Facebook earlier. Someone called him out, asking him when America was not great. His answer was telling: “America was last great in the late 40’s and early 50’s…” That’s the wingnut mindset in a nutshell, folks: The bastion of conservative Christianity, when white men ruled.
When Europe and the far East lay in ruins.
he’s just taking it bc he wants it. that’s *literally your money that you earned and gave to the government* for schools and roads and stuff
— Lindy West (@thelindywest) November 21, 2016
As one commenter notes, the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree:
Newly unearthed letter shows how Trump’s grandfather begged to stay in Germany
re: #47 electrotek
If Bernie Sanders is so against Islamophobia, then why hasn’t he denounced Tulsi Gibbard??
I actually saw something the other day that she’s a potential POTUS candidate in 2020. Thought it was kind of weird given some of the stuff I’ve read, but, then again, I’ve seen some shit in politics the last 2016 years that we used to think was impossible.
re: #55 The Vicious Babushka
When Europe and the far East lay in ruins.
He’s been at Fort Benning for the last six months, if that tells you anything.
re: #58 KGxvi
I actually saw something the other day that she’s a potential POTUS candidate in 2020. Thought it was kind of weird given some of the stuff I’ve read, but, then again, I’ve seen some shit in politics the last 2016 years that we used to think was impossible.
Not if she becomes Trump’s UN Rep. It would be hard enough with her statements anyway.
re: #58 KGxvi
I actually saw something the other day that she’s a potential POTUS candidate in 2020. Thought it was kind of weird given some of the stuff I’ve read, but, then again, I’ve seen some shit in politics the last 2016 years that we used to think was impossible.
As they say, never say never.
re: #58 KGxvi
I actually saw something the other day that she’s a potential POTUS candidate in 2020. Thought it was kind of weird given some of the stuff I’ve read, but, then again, I’ve seen some shit in politics the last 2016 years that we used to think was impossible.
She was spamming the #UniteBlue hashtag announcing her candidacy for 2020, with pictures of her in uniform.
re: #51 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Poking around at JMA, it appears that only one buoy has reported any observations on a potential tsunami.
NHK finally has some inflow happening.
NHK World is streaming NHK in Japan with an English translator. #fukushima #earthquake #Japan https://t.co/7pDwuJAVRf
— Matt Haze (@MattHaze) November 21, 2016
re: #49 KGxvi
I was chuckling yesterday, went to an antique swap meet and heard some old (white) woman saying something about how this generation all get trophies for showing up and how it’s bull. I’ve heard the same thing from my folks, a few times. I pointed out that when I was a kid, we got trophies even if we came in last place (my dad was always a coach and didn’t remember this). I also pointed out that there’s a sign at my niece’s softball fields reminding parents that “it’s just a game” and that “there’s no scholarship on the line” and mentioned that signs like that and “everyone gets a trophy” is because their generation had to be fucking crazy about their kids winning.
Ivanka Trump sat in on her father’s meeting today with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, per handout photo pic.twitter.com/tEbfYYeJFA
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) November 18, 2016
Ivanka T got on the call with Argentinian pres Macri, @ukigoni reports https://t.co/ZeUhh0rIBs which rings a bell https://t.co/CNUKCOCwIk
— Tom McCarthy (@TeeMcSee) November 21, 2016
re: #42 thedopefishlives
Oh, I meant to mention. One of my wingnut friends was flying his MAGA flag on Facebook earlier. Someone called him out, asking him when America was not great. His answer was telling: “America was last great in the late 40’s and early 50’s…” That’s the wingnut mindset in a nutshell, folks: The bastion of conservative Christianity, when white men ruled.
And Europe was blown to shit so we were the “only” functioning industrial base unaffected. Thus giving that generation the fuel to look at us now and exclaim, “I did just fine at your age, what is wrong with you?”. Living in the past that never was as they seem to thing it was.
re: #65 klys (maker of Silmarils)
NHK finally has some inflow happening.
First measurements are coming in. 60cm at Onahama Port, which is in the warning zone (1-3m).
re: #72 Eventual Carrion
And Europe was blown to shit so we were the “only” functioning industrial base unaffected. Thus giving that generation the fuel to look at us now and exclaim, “I did just fine at your age, what is wrong with you?”. Living in the past that never was as they seem to thing it was.
Back when black men had to wear turbans in order to seek any respect from white society, oddly enough.
re: #13 makeitstop
It certainly won’t be by the media asking idiotic questions of idiots rather than doing their own investigative digging.
I asked @KellyannePolls if Trump was breaking any laws by continuing to conduct business. She said I was being negative.
— Jeremy W. Peters (@jwpetersNYT) November 21, 2016
re: #75 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
They’re not going to get rid of it. They’re going to rebrand it as TrumpCare and it’ll be the most successful health care plan ever implemented because white asshole.
This just happened on @CNN: Are Jews People? pic.twitter.com/SZD4mr1Vqc
— Maia Efrem (@maiaefrem) November 21, 2016
re: #63 The Vicious Babushka
She was spamming the #UniteBlue hashtag announcing her candidacy for 2020, with pictures of her in uniform.
Already? Honestly I’m not impressed with her. I do gotta love though how Clinton gets shit for not always being pro SSM when Gabbard was not only hostile to gay marriage by LGBT rights for a long time. I mean I do give her credit since she seems to have done a 180 and sponsored and co-sponsored a lot of legislation. But she also attacked the Iranian deal. She’s probably low on my list on who I’d support in 2020. I really like Senators Duckworth and Booekr of the names I’ve seen floated. I like Warren too but not sure if she’s presidential material.
re: #76 BeachDem
Yeah, that one warranted a response. Fucking lazy media. I need to get this onto Twitter so I can yell FRIST!
re: #81 HappyWarrior
Already? Honestly I’m not impressed with her. I do gotta love though how Clinton gets shit for not always being pro SSM when Gabbard was not only hostile to gay marriage by LGBT rights for a long time. I mean I do give her credit since she seems to have done a 180 and sponsored and co-sponsored a lot of legislation. But she also attacked the Iranian deal. She’s probably low on my list on who I’d support in 2020. I really like Senators Duckworth and Booekr of the names I’ve seen floated. I like Warren too but not sure if she’s presidential material.
The Democratic Party shouldn’t pull a Trump by nominating Tulsi Gabbard.
re: #79 Jenner7
I’m sure they’re just asking questions…
re: #79 Jenner7
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Fuck off to the next dimension, CNN.
re: #77 darthstar
They’re not going to get rid of it. They’re going to rebrand it as TrumpCare and it’ll be the most successful health care plan ever implemented because white asshole.
now with 97% less black president!
re: #79 Jenner7
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OK. I don’t want to hear shit from anyone when I start making Hitler comparisons. This is just fucking insane.
re: #79 Jenner7
Jesus Christ! (That was probably in vane)
Boycott CNN and their advertisers? I’m in.
Here is the segment. That chryon. These times. pic.twitter.com/5vXn5GM7ll
— Colin Jones (@colinjones) November 21, 2016
re: #84 electrotek
The Democratic Party shouldn’t pull a Trump by nominating Tulsi Gabbard.
They won’t.
re: #79 Jenner7
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re: #91 darthstar
Boycott CNN and their advertisers? I’m in.
Hell, I’d cut the cord altogether and make sure that none of those networks get any reverse compensation through our cable fees.
re: #81 HappyWarrior
Already? Honestly I’m not impressed with her. I do gotta love though how Clinton gets shit for not always being pro SSM when Gabbard was not only hostile to gay marriage by LGBT rights for a long time. I mean I do give her credit since she seems to have done a 180 and sponsored and co-sponsored a lot of legislation. But she also attacked the Iranian deal. She’s probably low on my list on who I’d support in 2020. I really like Senators Duckworth and Booekr of the names I’ve seen floated. I like Warren too but not sure if she’s presidential material.
She spoke at our state convention a few years ago, and there was something about her that sparked my spidy sense. Really creeped me out, but I can’t remember exactly why. (Tim Scott and one other local politician give me the same creepy feeling when I’m in the same room with them.)
Remember, there were a bunch of Berners who wanted her to be Bernie’s VP pick. Doubt it ever would have happened, but many of them lurved them some Tulsi a few months ago.
re: #91 darthstar
Boycott CNN and their advertisers? I’m in.
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Annnnnd there’s the proof. Thanks.
re: #94 Myron Falwell (no relation)
Hell, I’d cut the cord altogether and make sure that none of those networks get any reverse compensation through our cable fees.
I’m getting there.
Max observed tsunami so far is 90cm. My translator is in a meeting so I can’t tell you where that was.
re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Max observed tsunami so far is 90cm. My translator is in a meeting so I can’t tell you where that was.
It’d be nice if the tsunami wasn’t a big one.
re: #91 darthstar
Boycott CNN and their advertisers? I’m in.
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Richard Spencer is an anti-Semitic dickhead, but when I look up that quote all of the other sources say he was referring to political pundits with that quote. Although I wouldn’t put it past him to question the humanness of Jews.
In split decision, federal judges rule WI redistricting law an unconstitutional gerrymander https://t.co/CmgqKwqytJ via @katelynferral
— Jessie Opoien (@jessieopie) November 21, 2016
“…The order was handed down by District Judge Barbara Crabb, appointed by Jimmy Carter, and Circuit Judge Kenneth Ripple, appointed by Ronald Reagan, who wrote the decision. District Judge William Griesbach, appointed by George W. Bush, dissented.
The three judges found that Act 43, which carved out new districts for the state Assembly, was written to hurt Democrats.
“It is clear that the drafters got what they intended to get. There is no question that Act 43 was designed to make it more difficult for Democrats, compared with Republicans, to translate their votes into seats,” Ripple wrote…”
re: #101 danarchy
Richard Spencer is an anti-Semitic dickhead, but when I look up that quote all of the other sources say he was referring to political pundits with that quote. Although I wouldn’t put it past him to question the humanness of Jews.
I don’t give a crap who said it or what they were referencing - they shouldn’t be getting air time anyway - I’m more pissed at CNN for letting the question sit there on hundreds of thousands of screens the way they did.
re: #91 darthstar
Boycott CNN and their advertisers? I’m in.
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I haven’t watched any of them in better than ten years. Where’s that leave me?
re: #104 makeitstop
I haven’t watched any of them in better than ten years. Where’s that leave me?
Better off.
re: #97 William Lewis
That looks like some Jay Ryan(from Chicago) artwork in the background.
re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Max observed tsunami so far is 90cm. My translator is in a meeting so I can’t tell you where that was.
Soma Port. (Meeting over.)
re: #95 BeachDem
She spoke at our state convention a few years ago, and there was something about her that sparked my spidy sense. Really creeped me out, but I can’t remember exactly why. (Tim Scott and one other local politician give me the same creepy feeling when I’m in the same room with them.)
Remember, there were a bunch of Berners who wanted her to be Bernie’s VP pick. Doubt it ever would have happened, but many of them lurved them some Tulsi a few months ago.
I am just not impressed and the only reason why the Berners like her is because she endorsed Bernie. That’s not a reason to like someone. Point of reference, I really like Keith Ellison and really hope that they’re not supporting him simply because of htat. He brings more to the table than just that.
re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Max observed tsunami so far is 90cm. My translator is in a meeting so I can’t tell you where that was.
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