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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2016 • 11:54:06am

33 seconds in and loving the video

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 11:56:54am
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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 11:58:47am

This is a really interesting video, Mr. Johnson. Where do you find these?

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Stanley Sea  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:00:10pm
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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:08:02pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

How long before someone uses the excuse in a so-called stand your ground case of “he didn’t look like he was here legally?”

Makes me want go out and buy skin bleach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:09:35pm

the more you know….

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:10:58pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

I know there’s some truth when you can’t afford to lose the money, but if you make the money, that’s different. And what about American companies that need access to Chinese workers?

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Timothy Watson  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:11:52pm

re: #7 Belafon

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I know there’s some truth when you can’t afford to lose the money, but if you make the money, that’s different. And what about American companies that need access to Chinese workers?

So the GOP is back to proposing that we default on government bonds?

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:12:18pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

There have been kooks like that since before Trump. The great thing about Trump is we can use his name to label the phenomenon.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:13:35pm
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sagehen  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:13:48pm

re: #7 Belafon

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I know there’s some truth when you can’t afford to lose the money, but if you make the money, that’s different. And what about American companies that need access to Chinese workers?

We don’t manufacture as much as we used to, but the stuff we still make… we buy the parts overseas. And inventory systems are mostly a delicately balanced “just in time” set-up. If China were to halt all exports to the US for a couple of weeks, all our factories would close.

Or as someone suggested in a previous thread… sabotage i-phones and TV’s. They just have to flip a switch and they all suddenly explode. Or just stop working.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:14:53pm

re: #11 sagehen

We don’t manufacture as much as we used to, but the stuff we still make… we buy the parts overseas. And inventory systems are mostly a delicately balanced “just in time” set-up. If China were to halt all exports to the US for a couple of weeks, all our factories would close.

Or as someone suggested in a previous thread… sabotage i-phones and TV’s. They just have to flip a switch and they all suddenly explode. Or just stop working.

Even cars that are manufactured in the United States, an amazing amount of the parts come from non-domestic sources.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:16:04pm
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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:27:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:29:26pm

How to be annoyingly obtuse and pedantic on Twitter.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:32:09pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

How to be annoyingly obtuse and pedantic on Twitter.

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Because shooting future American refugees going into Mexico is any better?

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:34:40pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

How to be annoyingly obtuse and pedantic on Twitter.

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Yeah, the Trumpist may only want to be ready if we are invaded by a horde of genetically altered killer llamas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:40:48pm

the scam is revealed and McConnell is left failing in trying to cover his ass:

LOUISVILLE, Ky.

The next Congress will begin work immediately next year toward repealing President Barack Obama’s health care law but delay the changes as Republicans try to come up with an alternative, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Saturday.

The Kentucky Republican insisted that some 20 million Americans who have health care through the six-year-old law will not lose coverage, though the likely upheaval in the insurance industry suggests many could.

Asked about the Senate’s timetable to scrap the law, McConnell said: “We’re going to move to it after we go back in the first week in January.”

But during a speech in his hometown of Louisville, the senator cautioned patience from the law’s critics as Republicans create an alternative.

“You can’t just snap your fingers and go from where we are today to where we’re headed,” McConnell told a crowd at the Kentucky Farm Bureau’s annual meeting. “This has to be done carefully. It has to be done in a phased-in way over a period of time.”

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:43:17pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

How to be annoyingly obtuse and pedantic on Twitter.

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Yeah, and if you look at his timeline, he fantasizes about not only killing possible undocumenteds, but also Muslims, African-Americans, and liberals in general. There are several directed threats of violence by him. That one got a fast block and report.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:46:04pm

At this point, with Mr. Trump calling everyone and telling them contradictory things, those nations would almost be remiss in their own duties to not test either our military or diplomatic resolve (or competence).

Argentina: Mr. Trump, you want those hotel permits in Buenos Aires? Just ignore what we plan to do the next couple weeks in the Falkland Islands and South Georgia. (One reason why you don’t put a businessman in government.)

Russia: When my wife and I were in Poland last year, Russia put in all sorts of troops in the Kalningrad Exclave, missiles, aircraft, &c. We were thirty miles from the border and were quite concerned (as were everyone who lived in NE Poland while we were there). We spent a lot of time watching the local news trying to figure out what Russia was up to. The US response then was to sail a couple US Navy warships into the area to flag-wave and remind the Polish government the USA had their backs. Would a Trump Administration do the same?

Moreover, Russia has been eyeing the Baltic States for some time. Poland and the Baltics are all part of NATO and Mr. Trump has signalled he might ignore or abandon the Atlantic Alliance. Diplomatic or military probes against all those nations would test his commitment to NATO.

China: Well, after that disaster of a phone call to President Tsai yesterday, China is rightly pissed. While Taiwan has an excellent military, it is no match for China, a world power. Increased military traffic in the Taiwan Strait or perhaps the East and South China Seas would not be unreasonable probes. Would the USA come to Taiwan’s defence under military pressure? Sail an aircraft carrier in the Strait perhaps? Who knows?

And the India-Pakistan debacle: Mr. Trump, you want those permits for your hotel in India? Ignore what we’re going to do in Kashmir for the next few weeks (if he can even find Kashmir on a map).

Gaaaaa.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 12:54:31pm

They’re doing the diplomatic equivalent of “I don’t see why she’s offended. Those are some massive hooters.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:01:16pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:01:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:02:06pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:03:06pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I was just out for a bit on my lunch break, and a woman asked me to take a photo of her and her friend. She had to show me how to do it because I was about to take a selfie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:04:53pm

I never liked the Enquirer but since they’ve gone all in for Trump they’re even more horrid:

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:06:05pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Before Bannon embraced Trump, the Breitbart provocateur had his eye on another gifted populist

They misspelled ‘grifting.’

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:06:18pm

re: #20 Anymouse

“Kashmir? Oh Kashmir is wonderful. Great place, great people. And they make the best sweaters, the best!”

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Timothy Watson  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:08:56pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

“Kashmir? Oh Kashmir is wonderful. Great place, great people. And they make the best sweaters, the best!”

“Great song, my favorite Zeppelin song bigly!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:09:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:18:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:19:22pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Twitter fighting in Haikus now?

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:19:42pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

I never liked the Enquirer but since they’ve gone all in for Trump they even more horrid:

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The last one I saw was

Trump MUST build the wall! CHAOS at the border!!!

Also, Hillary bad. Very, very bad Hillary.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:20:48pm

re: #7 Belafon

Oh look, now that we have a Republican PEOTUS, debt suddenly isn’t a problem. What an unexpected development!

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:21:01pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

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Hey, I inherited my great-grandmother’s device. (The device is a violet wand.) Here I thought she was using it as a sex toy. Maybe that’s why my brainpower hasn’t improved. /s

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:21:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:22:39pm

meanwhile, in North Carolina today:


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Timothy Watson  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:26:39pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just so everyone knows, @NCSHP troopers blocked traffic for the KKK so they could have their parade without any problems.

No love for the Klan here and not to nitpick, but that is supposed to be the police’s job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:27:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:28:07pm

re: #38 Timothy Watson

No love for the Klan here and not to nitpick, but that is supposed to be the police’s job.

Reportedly, the Klan had no parade permits for this.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:28:35pm

re: #38 Timothy Watson

No love for the Klan here and not to nitpick, but that is supposed to be the police’s job.

As long as the Klan had the same permits or whatever else Roxboro requires, then they should get the same protections as any other applicant for a parade permit.

Treating the Klan differently would result in a massive crap-storm of I Amendment complaints from them; even though their message is odious they have the right to express it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:32:15pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gee, you think they would have blocked it off for BLM?

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Timothy Watson  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:32:27pm

re: #41 Anymouse

As long as the Klan had the same permits or whatever else Roxboro requires, then they should get the same protections as any other applicant for a parade permit.

Treating the Klan differently would result in a massive crap-storm of I Amendment complaints from them; even though their message is odious they have the right to express it.

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Did someone just teach him the word “vicious”? Second time he’s used it in a day.

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Interesting Times  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:32:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:33:37pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile, in North Carolina today:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:35:17pm

re: #20 Anymouse

He will be too busy looking for cashmere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:36:04pm

re: #46 GlutenFreeJesus

He will be too busy looking for cashmere.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:37:38pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL.

Since this is a music thread:

Kashmir-Led Zeppelin

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:41:38pm

re: #33 makeitstop

Also, Hillary bad. Very, very bad Hillary.

Well, if she and Bill are in to that, it’s ok.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:43:20pm

re: #43 Timothy Watson

Did someone just teach him the word “vicious”? Second time he’s used it in a day.

Lou Reed ”vicious”

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:44:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:45:08pm
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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:45:11pm

I think that the Trump-Taiwan phone call was a good sign for Mitt Romney.

Hopefully Trump has realized that he is going to need a SoS who has to be an expert and shameless ass-kisser to smooth over all of Trump’s mistakes, Rudy or Petraeus ain’t got that in them.

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blueraven  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:48:44pm

ummmm…no and no

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:49:35pm

re: #53 b.d.

I think that the Trump-Taiwan phone call was a good sign for Mitt Romney.

Hopefully Trump has realized that he is going to need a SoS who has to be an expert and shameless ass-kisser to smooth over all of Trump’s mistakes, Rudy or Petraeus ain’t got that in them.

I’m not holding my breath. His supporters hate establishment politicians, and his advisers are on record saying they want to destroy the government (especially Mr. Bannon).

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SteveMcG RN  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:50:47pm

If this is President-elect Trump, can you imagine lame duck Trump?

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wrenchwench  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:52:05pm
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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:52:28pm

re: #54 blueraven

ummmm…no and no

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Hey Brit Hume, no we don’t have a defence treaty with Taiwan. Geez, I’m way out here in the middle of nowhere and can find Wikipedia on the Internet, I would presume someone as well-educated as you could find it.

en.wikipedia.org

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SteveMcG RN  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:53:46pm

re: #58 Anymouse

How can you have a treaty with a country you don’t even recognize?

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:56:04pm

re: #55 Anymouse

I’m not holding my breath. His supporters hate establishment politicians, and his advisers are on record saying they want to destroy the government (especially Mr. Bannon).

If China threatens to close the Trump manufacturing plants he’ll roll over. Trump doesn’t care about what he promised the dumb rubes, he is in this for himself and his family legacy.

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Interesting Times  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:58:28pm

At this rate, I’m beginning to think she should handle foreign policy as well o_O

Is it just me, or is it impossible to look at that picture without automatically seeing the word “SOON”?

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blueraven  Dec 3, 2016 • 1:59:35pm

This is reassuring. ///

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:00:07pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:01:19pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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“narricism”

sounds gnarly…

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electrotek  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:02:34pm

I have been crying over what happened in Oakland last night. It hits me so hard because not only did I grow up going to raves at abandoned warehouses like this, but I still attend these close-knit events as a refuge from mainstream society where everyone is welcome, where the ethos that helped Chicago establish itself as the birthplace of house music continues to reign supreme. Where women can dance the night away without being surrounded by perverted creeps.

I just don’t know how else to express my horror and sadness over what unfolded there. It could have clearly happened here and I can’t fathom the fiery deaths the patrons had to endure because of dodgy promoters who always put safety third instead of it being the first and foremost importance of element there.

Fuck me, up to 40 dead. Should never have happened. RIP to all of the victims whose only crime was to dance the night away before being engulfed in flames. Fucking terrible.

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wrenchwench  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:02:49pm
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jeffreyw  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:02:52pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

“narricism”

sounds gnarly…

It’s like narrative, only moar meta.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:05:27pm

re: #62 blueraven

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:05:58pm
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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:06:09pm

re: #58 Anymouse

Hey Brit Hume, no we don’t have a defence treaty with Taiwan. Geez, I’m way out here in the middle of nowhere and can find Wikipedia on the Internet, I would presume someone as well-educated as you could find it.

en.wikipedia.org

Since the inconvenient obstacles once known as “facts” are no more, why would he bother to look that up? It felt true when he wrote it, and that’s all that matters

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:08:45pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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Low bar, among right wing conservatives.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:09:46pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

I don’t think that fellow knows what the word narcissism means. President Obama is to narcissism as Pop Tart is to Pluto.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:11:11pm
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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:11:17pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Back in the 80s, the KKK attempted to have a march through Abilene, TX, where I grew up. As the newspaper noted in the report, there was nothing the city could do to stop them. Well, while Abilene wasn’t the beacon of freedom, the people in the town did not want it, and a protest was announced. The KKK withdrew their march. We, as a people, are going to have to relearn protesting against these groups.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:12:06pm
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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:12:21pm

Wingnuts gotta wing:

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:14:53pm

re: #76 Anymouse

Wingnuts gotta wing:

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Politics, a word these people throw around without knowing what it means. Not that that’s new.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:15:12pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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Looks like Django met Wee Pig in littlegreenfootballs.com

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electrotek  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:15:56pm

re: #74 Belafon

I’m sure 2017 Abilene will welcome it now.

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:16:40pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder what Donald will be dressing up as tonight? Himself? Will that make him a hero or a villain? I can’t imagine he’ll be the only one dressed as Trump there?

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:17:57pm

Today is International Day of Persons with Disabilities.

I’m sure Mr. Trump will get right on that on Twitter (perhaps by mocking someone with epilepsy).

whitehouse.gov

Presidential Proclamation for today linked above.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:18:34pm

Evening Lizardim. So, what has Drumpf done today to bring about the Derpocalypse?

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JasonA  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:18:58pm

re: #76 Anymouse

Wait, Gold Star families matter again?

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:19:08pm

re: #79 electrotek

I’m sure 2017 Abilene will welcome it now.

With three universities and Dyess Air Force Base, I’m not sure it would be all that welcome, though there are definitely people there that would support it. But that’s true of almost everywhere.

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:20:55pm

re: #82 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. So, what has Drumpf done today to bring about the Derpocalypse?

He pissed off an insignificant, unknown, pissant country somewhere in Asia

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:21:48pm

re: #79 electrotek

I’m sure 2017 Abilene will welcome it now.

Nah, people in Abilene don’t like anything.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:21:59pm

re: #85 b.d.

He pissed off an insignificant, unknown, pissant country somewhere in Asia

I was pretty sure we were discussing China last night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:22:47pm

In addition to the Deadpool video he bought for himself, MrBWS brought home for me a box of Godiva truffles.

I’m sitting here trying not to gobble down the entire box (while at the same time feeling a psychic connection with a certain other Lizard enjoying the same Godivas….)

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thedopefishlives  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:24:25pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

In addition to the Deadpool video he bought for himself, MrBWS brought home for me a box of Godiva truffles.

I’m sitting here trying not to gobble down the entire box (while at the same time feeling a psychic connection with a certain other Lizard enjoying the same Godivas….)

Mrs. Fish ordered Chinese for the family while I drove out and picked it up. I am well-fed now.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:24:27pm

re: #83 JasonA

Wait, Gold Star families matter again?

Of course we don’t. Mr. Trump nor anyone on his team has yet to apologise to Ghazala Khan. His supporters are still attacking Khzir Khan claiming as an immigration lawyer he is fighting to get “terrorists” in the country, and Mr. Trump’s New York campaign manager is still silent on accusing us all of supporting terrorism.

I never thought my Gold Star Family Pin would be a mark of protest. My mother feels the same. (Whereas neither of us wore them except certain special occasions, we now wear them everywhere.)

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:25:11pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

In addition to the Deadpool video he bought for himself, MrBWS brought home for me a box of Godiva truffles.

I’m sitting here trying not to gobble down the entire box (while at the same time feeling a psychic connection with a certain other Lizard enjoying the same Godivas….)

Mail some to me, that way you won’t gobble them all down. /s

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:25:44pm

re: #87 thedopefishlives

I was pretty sure we were discussing China last night.

1,000 apologies, I turned away from the news yesterday before the sun went down and assumed it happened this morning.

In that case then, looks like this day may turn out to be the most successful day of Trump’s PE era so far……

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:26:07pm

re: #91 Anymouse

Mail some to me, that way you won’t gobble them all down. /s

Nope, nope, nope.

;)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:27:14pm

re: #76 Anymouse

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:27:45pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:29:37pm

re: #92 b.d.

1,000 apologies, I turned away from the news yesterday before the sun went down and assumed it happened this morning.

In that case then, looks like this day may turn out to be the most successful day of Trump’s PE era so far……

//

No, no, that’s OK, I had to check and see if you meant some other Asian country, because at the rate Drumpf is going, we aren’t going to have any allies by the time he leaves office. Plus the fact that I got unbelievably inebriated last night and had to refresh my own memory on the events that unfolded.

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JasonA  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:30:14pm

re: #90 Anymouse

Of course we don’t. Mr. Trump nor anyone on his team has yet to apologise to Ghazala Khan. His supporters are still attacking Khzir Khan claiming as an immigration lawyer he is fighting to get “terrorists” in the country, and Mr. Trump’s New York campaign manager is still silent on accusing us all of supporting terrorism.

I never thought my Gold Star Family Pin would be a mark of protest. My mother feels the same. (Whereas neither of us wore them except certain special occasions, we now wear them everywhere.)

I’m sorry to hear that you have one. Didn’t know that.

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JasonA  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:30:59pm

re: #92 b.d.

1,000 apologies, I turned away from the news yesterday before the sun went down and assumed it happened this morning.

In that case then, looks like this day may turn out to be the most successful day of Trump’s PE era so far……

//

It’s only 5:30 EST.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:34:40pm

re: #97 JasonA

I’m sorry to hear that you have one. Didn’t know that.

I’ve mentioned it before here (my father was killed in Vietnam when I was seven). Hence my avatar.

See also:

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:35:09pm

Cereal shouldn’t be political.

So, therefore it is probably best Kelloggs not advertise on such a political site as Brietbart.

But since they have come to that position said site’s supporters are going to try to put Kelloggs out of business…which is very political.

Yeah, just like so much wingnut drama…it doesn’t make a lot of sense.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:38:21pm

My wife is sewing her fourth polka dot dress this month right now. She is getting on my case to go wash the dishes. BRB

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:38:59pm

re: #87 thedopefishlives

I was pretty sure we were discussing China last night.

It’s a pretty big country, so it might take a couple days. /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:40:39pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:40:46pm

re: #100 ObserverArt

Cereal shouldn’t be political.

So, therefore it is probably best Kelloggs not advertise on such a political site as Brietbart.

But since they have come to that position said site’s supporters are going to try to put Kelloggs out of business…which is very political.

Yeah, just like so much wingnut drama…it doesn’t make a lot of sense.

“Political” is what wingnuts call it when a product or company calls attention to their craziness. It’s the same mindset that causes them to respond to sportsball players expressing opinions they disgree with by screaming “SHUT UP AND PLAY!”

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electrotek  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:41:13pm

Up to 40 dead in Oakland, FUCK

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:41:40pm

re: #99 Anymouse

I’ve mentioned it before here (my father was killed in Vietnam when I was seven). Hence my avatar.

See also:

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why I am glad you are back. We need people to remind us of the real cost of war.

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compound_Idaho  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:42:19pm

re: #58 Anymouse

Hey Brit Hume, no we don’t have a defence treaty with Taiwan. Geez, I’m way out here in the middle of nowhere and can find Wikipedia on the Internet, I would presume someone as well-educated as you could find it.

en.wikipedia.org

No treaty, but the Taiwan Relations Act is the law of the land.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:50:00pm

re: #76 Anymouse

Wingnuts gotta wing:

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:51:42pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

“Political” is what wingnuts call it when a product or company calls attention to their craziness. It’s the same mindset that causes them to respond to sportsball players expressing opinions they disgree with by screaming “SHUT UP AND PLAY!”

Yeah, they sure do not like being identified as crazy.

Which is why you see so many of them wearing Deplorable T-shirts and giving themselves nicknames on Twitter with Deplorable in it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:56:20pm

fascinating that cereal shouldn’t be political, but wedding cakes are fair game.

*spit*

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2016 • 2:59:37pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

fascinating that cereal shouldn’t be political, but wedding cakes are fair game.

*spit*

That’s different. That would be covered under religion.

Oh, wait…

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:02:30pm

re: #96 thedopefishlives

No, no, that’s OK, I had to check and see if you meant some other Asian country, because at the rate Drumpf is going, we aren’t going to have any allies by the time he leaves office. Plus the fact that I got unbelievably inebriated last night and had to refresh my own memory on the events that unfolded.

Hope all is well, that you’re not feeling too bad and that their were no other surprises

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:03:29pm

re: #106 I Would Prefer Not To

why I am glad you are back. We need people to remind us of the real cost of war.

The idea that Mr. Trump would even briefly consider Sarah Palin for VA Director galls me.

The VA is always run by a veteran for good reason. Of course, if your goal is to privatise the VA, what better way to do it than appointing a clueless person to run it, watch it collapse, then claim private industry can do it better.

I am under no illusions that warfare is glorious or wonderful. As Issac Asimov put it in “Foundation,” violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. Warfare is the ultimate failure of politics and diplomacy, which is why we need able and competent politicians and diplomats.

The insane crew Mr. Trump is putting together (and my money is on his advisers making the picks, not him) scares the crap out of me.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:04:46pm

re: #113 b.d.

Hope all is well, that you’re not feeling too bad and that their were no other surprises

I didn’t have much of a hangover this morning, so I think I’m doing pretty good. The only surprise was a silly drunk text to my wife, which, well, that’s a hell of a lot better than it could have been because I don’t usually get THAT drunk unless I’m suffering from an episode of depression.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:05:04pm

re: #107 compound_Idaho

No treaty, but the Taiwan Relations Act is the law of the land.

I’d like to have my own private Idaho. /s

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:09:12pm
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compound_Idaho  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:11:48pm

re: #114 Anymouse

I think Romney should run the VA not Sec. of State.

…. and you can still have your own private Idaho. Land and homes are still affordable if you stay away from Ada and Blaine counties.

… ps Sarah Palin is from ID and a U of I graduate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:13:23pm

re: #118 compound_Idaho

I think Romney should run the VA not Sec. of State.

LOLOLOLOL!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:17:26pm

re: #117 Anymouse

Please tell me that one of her with the gun is a photoshop…

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:17:47pm

re: #118 compound_Idaho

I think Romney should run the VA not Sec. of State.

…. and you can still have your own private Idaho. Land and homes are still affordable if you stay away from Ada and Blaine counties.

… ps Sarah Palin is from ID and a U of I graduate.

Romney would privatise the VA in a second.

Land and homes are pretty affordable here (plus we have Cabela’s flagship store here), as long as you don’t mind living near Nazi ranchers.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:18:34pm

re: #100 ObserverArt

Kinda like the same guys screaming voter fraud objecting loudest to a recount anywhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:19:10pm

a draft dodger heading up the VA is such an improvement over Palin….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:19:44pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

Please tell me that one of her with the gun is a photoshop…

it is

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:19:47pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

Please tell me that one of her with the gun is a photoshop…

It is a Photoshopped picture.

snopes.com

The Snopes article shows the original woman on who’s body Sarah Palin’s head was grafted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:19:52pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well we have another draft dodging POTUS so why the hell not?

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:20:07pm

re: #63 Belafon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:21:54pm

re: #125 Anymouse

Well that’s a bit of a relief. Thanks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:22:31pm

re: #127 Grunthos the Flatulent

“What the hell is an ep-ee-tome???”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:22:56pm

re: #127 Grunthos the Flatulent

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“It’s pronounced Gov. William J. Lepetomane”.

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:23:13pm

re: #129 Eclectic Cyborg

“What the hell is an ep-ee-tome???”

I think it is a really big book.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:23:52pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:27:41pm

re: #105 electrotek

Up to 40 dead in Oakland, FUCK

Breitbarters are already celebrating.

Sebastian Klay • a few seconds ago
Everyday I wake up and there are more dead liberals and Muslims, I know it’s gonna be a great day

Dean Wormer • 15 minutes ago
It’s Oakland… who cares?

Ron • 13 minutes ago
Not surprised this happened in libtard Oakland. Someone probably lit their foodstamps on fire.

Ryker2009 • 5 minutes ago
For some odd reason I really don’t care that San Francisco liberals are dead

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:29:31pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmmm, nothing about that on Survey Monkey’s Website, or in any news sites currently available to me (that doesn’t mean anything of course, but the only place I can find that is on Twitter).

It’s not even on Breitbart (dot) com, and I suspect the whinge from them would be epic if that were the case.

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compound_Idaho  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:30:38pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

Well we have another draft dodging POTUS so why the hell not?

Romney did a pretty good job with the Olympics. Although he appears to be in pretty good shape, he is not an Olympic athlete. We do not need symbolism over substance.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:32:02pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Sarah Palin, “gifted populist.”

First read that as “grifted populace.”

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:33:28pm

snopes.com

The Satanic Temple is claiming religious exemption to Texas’s regulation requiring funerals for foetuses, and says it will challenge the regulation in court.

Texas brings the number of states requiring that to four (the others are IN, GA, and AR).

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:34:04pm

re: #133 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Breitbarters are already celebrating.

This is what separates us from them. I take no joy when reading about a natural disaster or shooting in a conservative part of the country. These pathetic pig fuckers meanwhlie……….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:34:25pm

re: #134 Anymouse

Hmmm, nothing about that on Survey Monkey’s Website, or in any news sites currently available to me (that doesn’t mean anything of course, but the only place I can find that is on Twitter).

It’s not even on Breitbart (dot) com, and I suspect the whinge from them would be epic if that were the case.

Sleeping Giants (a legit source) is keeping track of these.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:35:06pm

re: #137 Anymouse

snopes.com

The Satanic Temple is claiming religious exemption to Texas’s regulation requiring funerals for foetuses, and says it will challenge the regulation in court.

Texas brings the number of states requiring that to four (the others are IN, GA, and AR).

The funerals for fetuses is just anothing ghoulish thing being done by the anti-choice movement. BTW AM, good to have you back. I know we’ve had some disagreements but it’s not personal.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:36:12pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sleeping Giants (a legit source) is keeping track of these.

I remember when McDonnell got elected here, they were going to try the transvaginal ultrasounds. I was in college then and had more free time on my hand. I joined with some students to protest teh governor when he was on campus. I’ll always remember how smug he was to me and the other people protesting.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:37:31pm

I really hope Breitbart can go bankrupt without their sponsors. They want a hate website fine? Let them do it with their own damn dime and not sponsors of products that every American uses.

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wrenchwench  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:39:23pm

re: #135 compound_Idaho

Romney did a pretty good job with the Olympics. Although he appears to be in pretty good shape, he is not an Olympic athlete. We do not need symbolism over substance.

Is this part of your endorsement of Romney for VA head? Is his non-Olympic athlete-hood the equivalent of his no-military-service-hood?

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wrenchwench  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:43:45pm
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jaunte  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:49:31pm
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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:54:11pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

The funerals for fetuses is just anothing ghoulish thing being done by the anti-choice movement. BTW AM, good to have you back. I know we’ve had some disagreements but it’s not personal.

I don’t know about me being back being good, after all I still ain’t paying rent around here to Mr. Johnson. (:: More like “squatter.” (Mr. Johnson did say when he got a postal address for Little Green Footballs he would make it available, at which time I will forward a cheque or money order to help keep the lights on here.)

Andy Borowitz at The New Yorker: Chris Christie Arrested for Keying Trump’s Limo
newyorker.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:54:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:57:13pm

re: #146 Anymouse

I don’t know about me being back being good, after all I still ain’t paying rent around here to Mr. Johnson. (:: More like “squatter.” (Mr. Johnson did say when he got a postal address for Little Green Footballs he would make it available, at which time I will forward a cheque or money order to help keep the lights on here.)

Andy Borowitz at The New Yorker: Chris Christie Arrested for Keying Trump’s Limo
newyorker.com

Ha. I do enjoy Borowitz as well. Glad they’re not having Christie anywhere near the admin even if it’s because of Jared’ grudge.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:58:24pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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With all respect to Stone, a lot of people who will think that never had a way in the first place. That said, it’s a powerful image and awesome to see veterans supporting this.

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jaunte  Dec 3, 2016 • 3:59:45pm

Republicans busy making the country worse.

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calochortus  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:00:09pm

re: #146 Anymouse

I don’t know about me being back being good, after all I still ain’t paying rent around here to Mr. Johnson. (:: More like “squatter.” (Mr. Johnson did say when he got a postal address for Little Green Footballs he would make it available, at which time I will forward a cheque or money order to help keep the lights on here.)

Andy Borowitz at The New Yorker: Chris Christie Arrested for Keying Trump’s Limo
newyorker.com

Yes, you being back here is good.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:00:54pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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And you have to aim lower if they are kids I guess.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:01:02pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

With all respect to Stone, a lot of people who will think that never had a way in the first place. That said, it’s a powerful image and awesome to see veterans supporting this.

And all the Sioux really want is a proper environmental impact statement done on the proposed new pipeline route (under a lake and across the Missouri River).

Can’t let pesky regulations get in the way of making money.

As veterans pour into the area, it presents a problem for Gov. Dalrymple: Using the National Guard or police against veterans creating a human shield for the protesters would look mighty bad for a Republican that supposedly “supports veterans.”

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:01:06pm

re: #150 jaunte

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Republicans busy making the country worse.

“Compassionate conservatism.”

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Alyosha  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:01:53pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

One solution is to get some cattle, set them on some public land and refuse to pay grazing fees.
If history is any guide, the cops will back away.
Oh, they need white faces? Disregard.

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calochortus  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:03:12pm

re: #153 Anymouse

Shouldn’t be a problem-those must not be “real” vets.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:04:39pm

Quick everybody, look surprised…

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:11:06pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

About that, Pennsylvania kept raising the bond required to be paid.

pittsburgh.cbslocal.com

The decision came Saturday, two days before a court hearing in the case. Lawyers for the Green Party-backed voters who filed the case say they can’t afford the $1 million bond ordered by the court by Monday at 5 p.m. However, Green Party-backed efforts to analyze election software in scattered precincts are continuing.

The Penna. GOP of course draws a different conclusion from what dropping a case actually means:

A statement from the Pennsylvania GOP sent Saturday night read, in part:

“The filing of a discontinuance of the Election Contest by Jill Stein’s petitioners tonight is a recognition that their Election Contest was completely without merit, and meant solely for purposes to delay the Electoral College vote in Pennsylvania for President-Elect Trump…Candidate Jill Stein’s allegations created the false allusion that some unidentified foreign government hacked our state’s voting systems when absolutely no such proof existed. We believe that she always knew that she had no such proof.”

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BeachDem  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:22:28pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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CONFIRMED: @SurveyMonkey has blacklisted Breitbart. There really is no other way to do a survey. Do it with them.

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BeachDem  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:26:55pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And, although I’m not a fan, Tulsi Gabbard is supposed to be one of them, so I give her credit there.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:28:54pm

Snopes debunks a Breitbart claim that Donald Trump won an overwhelming majority of counties in the election.

snopes.com

Breitbart claims Mr. Trump won 3.084 of the nation’s 3.141 counties. That statement is patently false, and Breitbart is using the claim to peddle the idea that Mr. Trump took a majority of the popular vote.

A county by county count is meaningless anyway. New York County (Manhattan) has a population of 1.63 million people and a density of over 70,000 per square mile; Los Angeles County has over 9,800,000 people with a density of 2,100 per square mile.

By comparison, my county (Morrill County, NE) has 5,042 people, and a density of 3.5 per square mile. By size, Morrill County is one-quarter of Los Angeles County.

Breitbart is trying to equate counties such as mine to New York and Los Angeles Counties to claim that Mr. Trump got the majority of the popular vote.

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:34:45pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

Quick everybody, look surprised…

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I bet all of those “progressives” are happy that they gave money to Jill Stein and will be getting every single piece of Green Party related propaganda nonsense thrown at them for the rest of their lives.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:44:34pm

re: #162 Anymouse

Snopes debunks a Breitbart claim that Donald Trump won an overwhelming majority of counties in the election.

snopes.com

Breitbart claims Mr. Trump won 3.084 of the nation’s 3.141 counties. That statement is patently false, and Breitbart is using the claim to peddle the idea that Mr. Trump took a majority of the popular vote.

A county by county count is meaningless anyway. New York County (Manhattan) has a population of 1.63 million people and a density of over 70,000 per square mile; Los Angeles County has over 9,800,000 people with a density of 2,100 per square mile.

By comparison, my county (Morrill County, NE) has 5,042 people, and a density of 3.5 per square mile. By size, Morrill County is one-quarter of Los Angeles County.

Breitbart is trying to equate counties such as mine to New York and Los Angeles Counties to claim that Mr. Trump got the majority of the popular vote.

It’s part of the “Real ‘Murika” myth, the idea that “red” districts vastly outnumber “blue” ones, so even if the population in a particular district is outnumbered by the number of domesticated animals, they still insist that it is every bit as representative as NYC or LA. Hence the idea of a few “islands” of blue in a “sea” of red, when the real map of America would be various shades of purple with a few dots of red and blue interspersed.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:47:37pm

re: #164 Targetpractice

It’s part of the “Real ‘Murika” myth, the idea that “red” districts vastly outnumber “blue” ones, so even if the population in a particular district is outnumbered by the number of domesticated animals, they still insist that it is every bit as representative as NYC or LA. Hence the idea of a few “islands” of blue in a “sea” of red, when the real map of America would be various shades of purple with a few dots of red and blue interspersed.

If you look at the Snopes article, they have an image showing the county map with a color gradient between blue and red based on the percentage of the vote won. It’s rather eye-opening.

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jaunte  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:52:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:52:36pm

re: #162 Anymouse

Snopes debunks a Breitbart claim that Donald Trump won an overwhelming majority of counties in the election.

snopes.com

Breitbart claims Mr. Trump won 3.084 of the nation’s 3.141 counties. That statement is patently false, and Breitbart is using the claim to peddle the idea that Mr. Trump took a majority of the popular vote.

A county by county count is meaningless anyway. New York County (Manhattan) has a population of 1.63 million people and a density of over 70,000 per square mile; Los Angeles County has over 9,800,000 people with a density of 2,100 per square mile.

By comparison, my county (Morrill County, NE) has 5,042 people, and a density of 3.5 per square mile. By size, Morrill County is one-quarter of Los Angeles County.

Breitbart is trying to equate counties such as mine to New York and Los Angeles Counties to claim that Mr. Trump got the majority of the popular vote.

Why, it’s almost as if Breitbart are completely lacking in any kind of honesty! Or math skills.
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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:52:37pm

re: #164 Targetpractice

It’s part of the “Real ‘Murika” myth, the idea that “red” districts vastly outnumber “blue” ones, so even if the population in a particular district is outnumbered by the number of domesticated animals, they still insist that it is every bit as representative as NYC or LA. Hence the idea of a few “islands” of blue in a “sea” of red, when the real map of America would be various shades of purple with a few dots of red and blue interspersed.

The Snopes article includes cartograms which weight each county by population. (If you squint really closely you can see mine on the map.)

They also include a cartogram of the vote in each county by percentage of the votes for Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Trump, which shows that even in counties that went for Mr. Trump, significant percentages of their populaces voted for Mrs. Clinton. (Those are weighted with shades of purple, more blue leaning more toward Mrs. Clinton.)

One of the arguments I’ve heard is that cities like New York or Los Angeles should not have an “outsized say” over the whole country (which is bunk). As far as I’m concerned, the 9,800,000 people in Los Angeles County’s votes should be exactly equal to the 5,000 people in my county in weight.

That takes us though to the game we wish we had (popular vote) to the game we do have (electoral college). You have to play with the election rules you have, not the election rules you wish you had (unless you can get them changed). With the reality of a Constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral College a dead letter (no way small states are going to give up their two extra electoral votes each), we’re stuck with trying something like the National Popular Vote Compact (and that might not get through enough small state legislatures either).

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:53:36pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

Why, it’s almost as if Breitbart are completely lacking in any kind of honesty! Or math skills.
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Scottie Nell Hughes: Their is no such thing as facts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:54:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:54:40pm

My favorite bit is the ‘elite coastal counties’ where most Americans apparently live. How they figure a majority of Americans are elite, I’m not sure.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:55:17pm

re: #171 Blind Frog Belly White

My favorite bit is the ‘elite coastal counties’ where most Americans apparently live. How they figure a majority of Americans are elite, I’m not sure.

Paved roads? /s

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:57:28pm

re: #172 Anymouse

Paved roads? /s

Nah, indoor plumbing.

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Skip Intro  Dec 3, 2016 • 4:59:43pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Has Trump’s Surgeon General position been filled yet?

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:00:26pm

re: #173 Targetpractice

Nah, indoor plumbing.

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Hey, my house got indoor plumbing in the Seventies. It was wired for electricity in the Sixties.

(When the Public Health Service pushed for indoor plumbing in the Fifties to try and counteract problems with polio, a great number of homes here were simply abandoned, as they would be too expensive to retrofit.)

The 220-pound gate stolen from Dachau extermination camp has been found in Norway.

huffingtonpost.com

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BeachDem  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:02:43pm

Is there anyone on the planet who gives a shit about Betsy McCaughey’s views on racism (or anything else, for that matter)? I thought not. Great get, CNN.

rawstory.com

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b.d.  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:03:26pm

re: #174 Skip Intro

Has Trump’s Surgeon General position been filled yet?

The search committee is currently combing the jungles of Brazil.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:06:29pm

re: #177 b.d.

The search committee is currently combing the jungles of Brazil.

Hard to find an anti-vax chiropractor who’s willing to handle the serpents.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:06:42pm

Twitter trolls being trolls: A flood of body-shaming messages aimed at Amy Schumer for being cast in Sony’s upcoming live-action “Barbie” movie.

huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:08:55pm

re: #171 Blind Frog Belly White

My favorite bit is the ‘elite coastal counties’ where most Americans apparently live. How they figure a majority of Americans are elite, I’m not sure.

What I love is the people who create the crap about coastal elites are actual coastal elites themselves. All these conservative writers who love to talk about how the “Heartland” is real America don’t live anywhere near it. Honestly, i don’t care that Trump’s won more counties than Clinton. That’s like saying Alaska has a bigger GDP than say Illinois because of its land size. Land size is impressive but only in terms of geography, in terms of politics it’s frankly irrelevant. So yeah liberal/Democratic voters reside in more densely populated areas. That doesn’t change that 2.5 million more votes were given to Clinton than Trump.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:10:09pm

re: #176 BeachDem

Is there anyone on the planet who gives a shit about Betsy McCaughey’s views on racism (or anything else, for that matter)? I thought not. Great get, CNN.

rawstory.com

Another day, another Trump campaign staffer who whines about how mean people are being by calling them names after having run a campaign on a platform of “Fuck you if you can’t deal with what we think!”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:10:34pm

re: #179 Anymouse

Twitter trolls being trolls: A flood of body-shaming messages aimed at Amy Schumer for being cast in Sony’s upcoming live-action “Barbie” movie.

huffingtonpost.com

A lot of the people who do the biggest body shaming aren’t exactly speciemens of physical fitness themselves. I was having a conversation with my brother about this.it’s pretty damn funny to hear a morbidly obese guy tell a woman she should lose weight. Honestly, I think Amy’s in good shape. She’s not skinny but she’s not fat either. And honestly even if she were fat, who cares, it’s her body not theirs.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:11:20pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:11:41pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

What I love is the people who create the crap about coastal elites are actual coastal elites themselves. All these conservative writers who love to talk about how the “Heartland” is real America don’t live anywhere near it. Honestly, i don’t care that Trump’s won more counties than Clinton. That’s like saying Alaska has a bigger GDP than say Illinois because of its land size. Land size is impressive but only in terms of geography, in terms of politics it’s frankly irrelevant. So yeah liberal/Democratic voters reside in more densely populated areas. That doesn’t change that 2.5 million more votes were given to Clinton than Trump.

America still thinks of itself as a country composed of small towns and farms, even though in terms of where people live, it’s really a country of cities and suburbs.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:11:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:11:52pm

The counties Clinton and Obama have won resemble the population as a whole more than the counties McCain, Romney, and Trump have won though and I personally think that is more relevant. It’s the same thing with Congressional districts.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:13:00pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

A lot of the people who do the biggest body shaming aren’t exactly speciemens of physical fitness themselves. I was having a conversation with my brother about this.it’s pretty damn funny to hear a morbidly obese guy tell a woman she should lose weight. Honestly, I think Amy’s in good shape. She’s not skinny but she’s not fat either. And honestly even if she were fat, who cares, it’s her body not theirs.

I can think of better things to do than worry about someone else’s weight, and Amy Schumer is not overweight anyway.

(On the other hand, my wife frequently gets on me about my weight, but for the opposite reason; she thinks I am too thin.)

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:13:16pm

re: #184 Blind Frog Belly White

America still thinks of itself as a country composed of small towns and farms, even though in terms of where people live, it’s really a country of cities and suburbs.

We’ve honestly been the latter for a few generations now. I guess it goes back to Jefferson’s idealized vision of Agrarian America. I admire Jefferson’s political philosophy but we don’t live in Thomas Jefferson’s America, we live in Alexander Hamilton’s.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:14:14pm

re: #187 Anymouse

I can think of better things to do than worry about someone else’s weight, and Amy Schumer is not overweight anyway.

(On the other hand, my wife frequently gets on me about my weight, but for the opposite reason; she thinks I am too thin.)

It’s just so stupid and juvenile. I don’t think I’ve ever been told I’m too skinny. Damn husky genes.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:14:48pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Too bad they’re redistricted to the size of a peanut farm. ///

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:15:07pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Well, I read the link you provided to the Italian technical consulting firm, but I am unsure about how that relates to the conversation with your brother. /s

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:15:19pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

The counties Clinton and Obama have won resemble the population as a whole more than the counties McCain, Romney, and Trump have won though and I personally think that is more relevant. It’s the same thing with Congressional districts.

Drives me buggy. When they talk about ‘Real America’, and ‘Real Americans’, what they mean is white people. White people, and a limited smattering of Others, but only The Good Ones, you know the ones they tell you that agree with them about racial issues, and who tell them, “No, you’re not racist!”

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:16:01pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

It’s just so stupid and juvenile. I don’t think I’ve ever been told I’m too skinny. Damn husky genes.

If they were Husker genes, one might think you were from Nebraska. /s

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bratwurst  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:17:27pm
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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:18:55pm

re: #192 Blind Frog Belly White

Drives me buggy. When they talk about ‘Real America’, and ‘Real Americans’, what they mean is white people. White people, and a limited smattering of Others, but only The Good Ones, you know the ones they tell you that agree with them about racial issues, and who tell them, “No, you’re not racist!”

To me, “real America” is the ideals put forth in the Constitution’s Preamble and the Declaration of Independence, and how everyone no matter who they are or where they live are part of that. Your mileage may vary.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:20:23pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

It’s just so stupid and juvenile. I don’t think I’ve ever been told I’m too skinny. Damn husky genes.

So, you have those really pale eyes?

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:22:20pm

re: #194 bratwurst

I’m still in the middle of the 2009 computer game Black Mirror 2. I tell ya, this is the point and click adventure game that keeps on giving and doesn’t know how to, or doesn’t want to, end.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:25:56pm

Facebook comment seen on a Huffington Post article:

When students in my class are rude or misbehave, I’m going to tell them to stop acting presidential and get back to work.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:28:11pm

re: #150 jaunte

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Republicans busy making the country worse.

Can’t afford therapy for disabled kids; there are billionaires in need of tax cuts./

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:29:06pm

re: #195 Anymouse

To me, “real America” is the ideals put forth in the Constitution’s Preamble and the Declaration of Independence, and how everyone no matter who they are or where they live are part of that. Your mileage may vary.

I largely agree.

The way I think of it is that America IS who Americans ARE. That’s the whole essence of self-governance, that we Americans of each era define what America is. 220 years ago, it was an agrarian republic designed primarily to benefit white male landowners. Now, it’s a diverse, largely metropolitan nation that increasingly benefits all, but still does tend to benefit wealthy white males most.

This is one reason why I am left unimpressed by appeals to ‘What The Founders Wanted’, because I kind of figure they wanted us to figure it out for ourselves, rather than taking their second draft of a founding document as Gospel. The other reason is that a whole lot of them thought it was perfectly just that they should own other people, buy and sell them like cattle, steal their labor, rape, beat, and even kill them at will, limited mostly by the prospect of monetary loss. That alone means for me, they can never be the almost godlike figures that others seem to see them as.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:30:51pm

A report about the KKK rally: m.dailykos.com. It seems that there was a protest in the town they were going to drive through, so they went to a different town.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:35:03pm

re: #200 Blind Frog Belly White

Hear hear. The striving for “a more perfect Union” is the part the framers of the Constitution (at least in my not-well educated opinion) is the single most important line in the whole Constitution.

Slavery was undoubtedly bad, and we got rid of it to the benefit of all (not just the slaves). Women gaining the right to vote empowered half the populace that was largely ignored by government, &c &c.

Each of those advances were what the founders of the nation envisioned, though they could not envision the specific acts at the time, carried forward the vision of the founders:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:39:23pm

I’m not sure how to take buzzfeed, but this sure sounds correct.

buzzfeed.com

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:40:10pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

We’ve honestly been the latter for a few generations now. I guess it goes back to Jefferson’s idealized vision of Agrarian America. I admire Jefferson’s political philosophy but we don’t live in Thomas Jefferson’s America, we live in Alexander Hamilton’s.

And we’re getting a president who thinks Jackson wasn’t radical enough in destroying Hamilton’s and Jefferson’s visions of America.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:40:18pm

re: #191 Anymouse

Well, I read the link you provided to the Italian technical consulting firm, but I am unsure about how that relates to the conversation with your brother. /s

Heh I hate it when the internet does that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:41:32pm

re: #192 Blind Frog Belly White

Drives me buggy. When they talk about ‘Real America’, and ‘Real Americans’, what they mean is white people. White people, and a limited smattering of Others, but only The Good Ones, you know the ones they tell you that agree with them about racial issues, and who tell them, “No, you’re not racist!”

It’s all real America. I was ready to be fair to Palin in 2008 and then she went to a Republican part of Virginia talking about how glad she was to be in the “Real Virginia.” Really pissed me off. I’m just as much as a Virginian as the people downstate and in more rural areas. Likewise though, it impressed me when Biden did the total opposite of that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:42:19pm

re: #193 Anymouse

If they were Husker genes, one might think you were from Nebraska. /s

Nah pure Keystone.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:42:45pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

So, you have those really pale eyes?

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More sky blue.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:43:27pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

It’s all real America. I was ready to be fair to Palin in 2008 and then she went to a Republican part of Virginia talking about how glad she was to be in the “Real Virginia.” Really pissed me off. I’m just as much as a Virginian as the people downstate and in more rural areas. Likewise though, it impressed me when Biden did the total opposite of that.

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plansbandc  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:44:38pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Gifted and Palin in the same sentence? Our transfer to bizarro world is complete.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:44:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:47:01pm

re: #209 Timothy Watson

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:47:40pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

It’s all real America. I was ready to be fair to Palin in 2008 and then she went to a Republican part of Virginia talking about how glad she was to be in the “Real Virginia.” Really pissed me off. I’m just as much as a Virginian as the people downstate and in more rural areas. Likewise though, it impressed me when Biden did the total opposite of that.

Yup, that statement POed me as well. Virginia Beach, Norfolk, and Fairfax are just as much “real Virginia” as the Blue Ridge Mountains.

I am a real American living in the rural part of the country (until Steve King gets his Nuremberg Laws), just as much as an actor living in Hollywood or a financier in Manhattan.

The nation recognises my rights as equal to those of the President. They are the same as the CEO of Bank of America, as the governor of my state, or the rancher down the street from me.

I hope that doesn’t change.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:51:13pm

re: #213 Anymouse

Yup, that statement POed me as well. Virginia Beach, Norfolk, and Fairfax are just as much “real Virginia” as the Blue Ridge Mountains.

I am a real American living in the rural part of the country (until Steve King gets his Nuremberg Laws), just as much as an actor living in Hollywood or a financier in Manhattan.

The nation recognises my rights as equal to those of the President. They are the same as the CEO of Bank of America, as the governor of my state, or the rancher down the street from me.

I hope that doesn’t change.

I was born in Fairfax. Live in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. For this woman, who I imagine had probably never even to my state before to talk about how glad she was to be in “Real Virginia”, man it just pissed me off. That’s what I mean when I say I think some small towners and rural residents have a certain snobbery towards urbanites and I’m a small town resident myself but most of my education and employment has been in the suburbs and urban areas. These people want to call Obama and Democrats divisive? No, they’re the divisive ones. They’re the ones that literally tell theri supporters they’re the only representatives of real America.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:52:17pm

Of course, Sarah Palin has become one of the elites she professes to hate since she quit on her state to become a right wing folk hero. Her buddies are people like Hannity and Greta not the regular schmos of Wasalia.

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Anymouse  Dec 3, 2016 • 5:54:32pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Of course, Sarah Palin has become one of the elites she professes to hate since she quit on her state to become a right wing folk hero. Her buddies are people like Hannity and Greta not the regular schmos of Wasalia.

Not that I would care to, but I haven’t seen too much of Sarah Palin hobnobbing with people like me.

She sure likes hanging around the wings of power though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2016 • 6:24:09pm

re: #174 Skip Intro

Has Trump’s Surgeon General position been filled yet?

No but I hear Dr. Pepper and Dr. Feelgood are in the running…


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