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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:39:23pm
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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:39:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:41:41pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:42:44pm

Missed this

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nines09  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:43:52pm

This thread will never go dry for at least 3 years. Trump will fuck up. How large and how many bodies or how many fortunes lost is yet to be seen. But he will fuck up. Where the bones end up is besides the point. The dead do not bleed.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:45:50pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Mom, what do you do?

Pose.

OK

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:46:17pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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There really is something creepy about this family.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:47:05pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

There really is something creepy about this family.

They are extremely superficial. Led by a narcissist. What else can they be?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:48:04pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

They are extremely superficial. Led by a narcissist. What else can they be?

Lots of narcissistic superficial families out there. Not a lot that have the stepmom posing that way with her step son.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:48:21pm

So did you guys want to provoke a war over the fucking Spratley Islands in the South China Sea?

Guess we get to find out!!!!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:50:27pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Lots of narcissistic superficial families out there. Not a lot that have the stepmom posing that way with her step son.

That’s her son.

That’s all she does.

The maid cooks. The driver picks up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:51:44pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

There really is something creepy about this family.

Jared is such a cuck.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:53:32pm

The first two pictures are posed. THAT’S RIGHT THEY ARE POSED FOR A PHOTOGRAPHER.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:54:09pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

That’s her son.

That’s all she does.

The maid cooks. The driver picks up.

Wait that’s Barron? Man I’m off tonight. Even more creepy AF.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:54:45pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

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Jared is such a cuck.

Agh now I’m going to have to delay bed time.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:55:38pm

re: #10 Scottishdragon

So did you guys want to provoke a war over the fucking Spratley Islands in the South China Sea?

Guess we get to find out!!!!

CNN had Chris Coons on and Blitzer was trying to bait him by saying what Trump did wasn’t that different from Obama contacting Iran or Cuba.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:57:31pm

re: #10 Scottishdragon

So did you guys want to provoke a war over the fucking Spratley Islands in the South China Sea?

Guess we get to find out!!!!

Oh what fun! Remember the Falklands? I ‘member.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:57:45pm

‘Member Granada? I ‘member!

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:58:11pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

CNN had Chris Coons on and Blitzer was trying to bait him by saying what Trump did wasn’t that different from Obama contacting Iran or Cuba.

Except for the fact that both of them are independent countries, and neither picked up a phone to talk to Obama directly. About the only thing they have in common is that they have people.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 6:59:38pm

re: #19 Belafon

Except for the fact that both of them are independent countries, and neither picked up a phone to talk to Obama directly. About the only thing they have in common is that they have people.

Exactly and he wasn’t trying to talk to them to do a deal for a business.

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Weaselone  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:01:34pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

CNN had Chris Coons on and Blitzer was trying to bait him by saying what Trump did wasn’t that different from Obama contacting Iran or Cuba.

I wasn’t under the impression that China considered Iran and Cuba provinces.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:02:38pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Oedipus Trump

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:02:38pm

re: #21 Weaselone

I wasn’t under the impression that China considered Iran and Cuba provinces.

Coons basically made the point that stirring up shit with China is the last thing we want when we have so many other problems going on. But yeah it’s a stupid analogy.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:03:50pm
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jhncsy  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:04:52pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

I thought Dole was one of the few Republicans with a brain, if not a heart.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:05:11pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

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I thought Dole was smarter than that. Guess not.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:05:28pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

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Maybe Taiwan accepted Trump’s call to stop Bob Dole from talking in third person.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:05:46pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Dementia setting in?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:06:27pm

re: #25 jhncsy

I thought Dole was one of the few Republicans with a brain, if not a heart.

Dole endorsed Trump early on in the campaign.

(Must resist making a Viagra joke…)

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:07:38pm

re: #25 jhncsy

I thought Dole was one of the few Republicans with a brain, if not a heart.

He’s gotta earn the paycheck.

$ is what it all boils down to. We know this. We’ve known this.

It’s just going to be in our face 4 the next 4.

#4thenext4, a rather good hashtag I think.

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jhncsy  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:07:46pm

re: #29 Myron Falwell (no relation)

And every time I think the Republicans can’t disappoint me, they surprise me.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:07:56pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

Dementia setting in?

Paycheck

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:10:03pm

re: #29 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Dole endorsed Trump early on in the campaign.

(Must resist making a Viagra joke…)

He really hated Cruz as I recall.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:12:05pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

He really hated Cruz as I recall.

Yup. The NYT’s Maggie Haberman wrote about it back on January 20.

Bob Dole Warns of ‘Cataclysmic’ Losses With Ted Cruz, and Says Donald Trump Would Do Better

Bob Dole, the former Kansas senator and 1996 Republican presidential nominee, has never been fond of Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. But in an interview Wednesday, Mr. Dole said that the party would suffer “cataclysmic” and “wholesale losses” if Mr. Cruz were the nominee, and that Donald J. Trump would fare better.

“I question his allegiance to the party,” Mr. Dole said of Mr. Cruz. “I don’t know how often you’ve heard him say the word ‘Republican’ — not very often.” Instead, Mr. Cruz uses the word “conservative,” Mr. Dole said, before offering up a different word for Mr. Cruz: “extremist.”

“I don’t know how he’s going to deal with Congress,” he said. “Nobody likes him.”

But Mr. Dole, 92, said he thought Mr. Trump could “probably work with Congress, because he’s, you know, he’s got the right personality and he’s kind of a deal-maker.”

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:12:23pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Paycheck

Hundred thousand dollar plus per annum pension ain’t enough, eh?

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:12:30pm

Lawrence O’Donnell now talking about the fact-free incoming administration with Adam Schiff.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:14:50pm

re: #34 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Yup. The NYT’s Maggie Haberman wrote about it back on January 20.

Bob Dole Warns of ‘Cataclysmic’ Losses With Ted Cruz, and Says Donald Trump Would Do Better

He’s not wrong about Cruz honestly but seeing Trump as an alternative makes me wonder.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:15:29pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:17:07pm

I haven’t read all the threads today, so pardon if this has already been posted.

I hope people that were so damn impressed with the Trump Carrier deal read this story and/or watch this video to get a feel for what United Technology actually thinks about the American job market, Free Trade and Feeding the Stock Market and where the average American worker fits in.

(Note: Real Conversation about jobs starts about 5:00 in. Prior to that it is about jet engines)

CNBC Mad Money - Exclusive: CEO who just went toe-to-toe with Donald Trump says there was ‘no quid pro quo’ about Carrier

United Technologies CEO Greg Hayes told Jim Cramer in an exclusive interview on Monday about his conversation with Donald Trump last week, and says there was no “quid pro quo” with the president-elect.

“I think we came up with a relatively good solution for everybody … We still got to do the preponderance of the restructuring, which we were going to do anyways. So it’s — I would say no ‘deal,’ but at the end of the day a good deal for UTC,” Hayes told the “Mad Money” host.

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Hayes stated that he received a phone call from Trump a week before Thanksgiving, with a request from the president-elect to reexamine the decision to close the Indianapolis Carrier factory.

“He said, ‘We are going to do a lot of things in this country that are going to make it a lot more conducive to manufacturing. We are going to take the tax rate down; we are going to reduce all of this burdensome regulation. When all that happens you are going to be printing money, but I need you to relook at your decision to close the factory in Indiana,’” Hayes said.

Hayes confirmed that there is approximately 1 million manufacturing square feet in Mexico already, thus he considered it to be a natural evolution to close facilities in Indiana and move them to Mexico,

“Nor was there any, I would say, deal,” Hayes said about his conversation with Trump, “There was no quid pro quo for him to say ‘look, I am not going to tax you, if you don’t do this.’ He simply said ‘take a look at this.’”

And while Hayes did agree to keep employees in Indiana, he said he still considers free trade to be essential for the growth of the U.S.

“This country was founded on two principles, right - immigration and free trade. And that is what made America great over time because we had to develop and innovate in the U.S. and take those products and sell them around the world,” Hayes said.

Carrier will still close its Huntington, Indiana facility and move 700 jobs to Mexico.

Iframe

Edit…not sure why so much trouble getting the video to embed.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:18:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:18:44pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

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Flynn Jr is the unhinged one.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:20:25pm
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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:20:44pm

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

‘Member Granada? I ‘member!

I remember how Grenada was a wag the dog moment to make people forget about 241 dead Marines that Reagan was cutting and running over.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:21:23pm

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

‘Member Granada? I ‘member!

Member Chewbacca Again?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:21:31pm

Bob Dole has been a big supporter of Trump almost from the beginning.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:21:37pm

So, been reading this book. “The Gift Of Fear” Big bestseller by this guy that evaluates the potential for violence from individuals. One of the concepts is trusting your intuition. All that evolution gives us humans a keen sense of threat, aka intuition. He puts some hard reality to it via a variety of ideas. One of those is the rule of opposites. How many times does a guy show an opposite from the expected normal reaction in the presence of women? amazon.com

Trump flunks the test.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:23:04pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Too many Republicans care more about Team GOP than anything else.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:23:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:23:28pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:24:21pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

He’s been by in the past day or two.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:24:32pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

Look at those tiny hands.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:26:28pm

littlegreenfootballs.com

Warning about plot to blow up Universal City station prompts heightened security across L.A.

Not good but I’m not changing my routine.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:27:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:27:23pm

re: #50 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He’s been by in the past day or two.

Yeah saw him yesterday after wondering about him on Friday.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:28:09pm

So much shit.
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:28:12pm

re: #53 jaunte

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It’s how you get and keep a captive audience.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:31:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:31:38pm

I find the MAGA hats cultish too.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:33:11pm
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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:33:12pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

I find the MAGA hats cultish too.

And a pathetic, kneejerk clutching at the small change of his supporters.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:33:24pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

I find the MAGA hats cultish too.

It’s all SEC Go Team!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:34:20pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:34:52pm

re: #43 William Lewis

I remember how Grenada was a wag the dog moment to make people forget about 241 dead Marines that Reagan was cutting and running over.

Acting!!!

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:35:06pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

Jury still out on Gen. Mike Flynn.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:35:50pm

re: #52 Unshaken Defiance

littlegreenfootballs.com

Not good but I’m not changing my routine.

With Trump’s refusal to attend intelligence briefings, coupled with his supporters harassing Muslims for no reason, his staffers openly expressing white supremacism AND Trump’s business holdings and name licensing agreements plastered on products and buildings worldwide…

We are truly sitting ducks for a cataclysmic event.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:36:18pm

re: #64 jaunte

Jury still out on Gen. Mike Flynn.

Def Sec goes up before committee, correct?

They just need to quote passages from his book.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:36:21pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:38:16pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

The electors are not going to do anything but vote as planned.

The bottom line in this disaster of trump is everyone wants to keep the peace.

See: Al Gore etc.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:38:32pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

It’s all SEC Go Team!

Trump really does represent the sports teamification of politics more than anyone else I’ve seen.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:39:45pm

Speaking of SEC, has Deb been around?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:40:00pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Trump really does represent the sports teamification of politics more than anyone else I’ve seen.

Fitting that Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:43:39pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

Speaking of SEC, has Deb been around?

I’ve seen DD off and on. I believe his vision is still recovering from eye surgery and he has to limit his screen time as a result.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:43:52pm

Because there’s still some sofa change from suckers to be had.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:45:47pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

The electors are not going to do anything but vote as planned.

The bottom line in this disaster of trump is everyone wants to keep the peace.

See: Al Gore etc.

There are going to be faithless electors. I don’t think that it will be enough to stop this, though.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:46:12pm

re: #73 jaunte

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Because there’s still some sofa change from suckers to be had.

PUKE.

OK, enough for me

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:46:33pm

Too many people just don’t realize how incredibly dangerous a Trump presidency is going to be. The time for academic arguments about moral equivalence is fucking past.

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allegro  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:46:45pm

re: #73 jaunte

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Because there’s still some sofa change from suckers to be had.

And where are the profits of this “official” US presidential hat going?

///As if

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:47:05pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Too many people just don’t realize how incredibly dangerous a Trump presidency is going to be. The time for academic arguments about moral equivalence is fucking past.

But no one has the courage.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:48:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:50:09pm

I gave this guy some time because he didn’t seem completely nuts, but JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH PEOPLE LIKE THIS.

This is no time to posture about “moral standing.” We’re in serious, serious trouble.

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nines09  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:50:43pm

Trump camp spends nation into default over Tweets undoing decades of treaties and safeguards. Gets into spitting war with fake accounts. Trolled by pros, Trump strikes back with threat to fuck his own people. Doubles down. Fucks own people. Not family. Or GOP bag men. “Mericans. Fuck us.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:52:17pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Too many people just don’t realize how incredibly dangerous a Trump presidency is going to be. The time for academic arguments about moral equivalence is fucking past.

The majority of voters will have to become dissidents of a sort. The EC can’t stop that. This is going to get thick. We can stand to for our rights. Our neighbors rights.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:52:49pm

re: #73 jaunte

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Because there’s still some sofa change from suckers to be had.

Sheesh.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:53:45pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

And for all his purported marketing genius, he failed to set the price at $45.

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ObserverArt  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:54:30pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Too many people just don’t realize how incredibly dangerous a Trump presidency is going to be. The time for academic arguments about moral equivalence is fucking past.

I swear they think because the hated black guy got the job and didn’t tank the country, then anyone can do it.

Now they get the big business man so they think this in the bag. They are willing to let him do whatever he wants to do.

It’s arrogant ignorance and gives no credit at all to how hard the job of president is and how good at it Obama was in the midst of all the obstruction.

So damn unfair, but when you get idiots backing idiots nothing makes any real sense.

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:55:56pm

re: #46 Unshaken Defiance

So, been reading this book. “The Gift Of Fear” Big bestseller by this guy that evaluates the potential for violence from individuals. One of the concepts is trusting your intuition. All that evolution gives us humans a keen sense of threat, aka intuition. He puts some hard reality to it via a variety of ideas. One of those is the rule of opposites. How many times does a guy show an opposite from the expected normal reaction in the presence of women? amazon.com

Trump flunks the test.

Outstanding book! I found it an important and valuable read.

And another point that de Becker (the author) makes, is how much effort predators make to try and convince you to ignore your intuition.

Just listen to the apologists and propagandists for Trump who are doing exactly that gaslighting.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:56:26pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:56:58pm

re: #86 ckkatz

CuriousLurker put me on to it. *waves”

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:57:47pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:59:38pm

Such diversity.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 7:59:48pm

re: #84 jaunte

And for all his purported marketing genius, he failed to set the price at $45.

Tweeted this.

Still, I’m puking that he will hold that # & have that portrait.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:00:28pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

On black velvet.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:00:34pm
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whitebeach  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:01:08pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

It’s all SEC Go Team!

Except that even the SEC gave up on all-white and token black teams forty years ago.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:02:23pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

Such diversity.

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All old angry white males profiled on a show viewed by old angry white males hosted by an old angry white male.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:08:15pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:13:20pm

I think Keith is taking the right path with his righteous outrage with the orange President-elect. He could never cuss on TV like he does in a YouTube video provided by GQ. I hope he keeps doing this, it’s really good.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:16:01pm

That tweet I saw here somewhere tonight is sticking to me.

Paraphrasing:

He won. Get over it!

No. He didn’t win. We’ve all lost.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:16:18pm

re: #71 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Fitting that Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame.

The Kayfabe Administration

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whitebeach  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:20:20pm

re: #98 GlutenFreeJesus

That tweet I saw here somewhere tonight is sticking to me.

Paraphrasing:

He won. Get over it!

No. He didn’t win. We’ve all lost.

Give the asshole credit for one thing: He was right when he said the election was rigged. I mean, in most places, when a candidate loses by two million votes, he loses. Here he’s the president-elect.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:22:38pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:23:38pm

re: #73 jaunte

Because there’s still some sofa change from suckers to be had.

Such a lousy businessman. Should be priced at $45
//

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:23:40pm

No one voted for Ivanka Trump.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:23:53pm

re: #101 whitebeach

It’s rigged, but he doesn’t want a recount!

Proves to me he didn’t expect to win.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:24:50pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart

If you’re gonna grift, don’t settle for grif.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:25:24pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Too many people just don’t realize how incredibly dangerous a Trump presidency is going to be. The time for academic arguments about moral equivalence is fucking past.

I’m looking forward to his administration opening up deep core fracking in the Yellowstone Caldera.

I intend to take my folding chair and a cooler with some Sam Adams to the South Rim and watch the massive phreatic explosion and pyroclastic flows wipe out the western third of the continent. Of course, I will have about 15 seconds to actually observe all of this before I effectively become part of the atmosphere myself…but I won’t have to be around to see the last of this sorry shit.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:25:51pm

Core incompetence.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:28:04pm

An example of why Twitter isn’t a bad thing.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:28:22pm

Old ignorant angry white male doing old ignorant angry white male things to an audience of old ignorant angry white males.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:29:41pm

re: #111 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Old ignorant angry white male doing old ignorant angry white male things to an audience of old ignorant angry white males.

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Hannity bringing back his show “Enemies of the State”.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:32:16pm
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jaunte  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:33:59pm
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whitebeach  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:35:56pm

re: #108 Scottishdragon

I’m looking forward to his administration opening up deep core fracking in the Yellowstone Caldera.

Fracking is for cucks. Unleash the free market and American know-how. Want energy independence? Let Exxon and BP go for oil using atomics.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:36:10pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

I think it’s a very cool thing that Kelly Carlin and Moon Zappa and Chris Davenport and … ok, I’ll stop … follow me on Twitter. Kelly and I have chatted about UFOs, drugs, what is fun, and other topics - on Twitter. Let’s hope over the next four years Twitter becomes something more positive than it is with the hate and abuse it’s known for today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:36:33pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart

Such a lousy businessman. Should be priced at $45
//

No, no, no!

…. $44.99.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:38:03pm

re: #108 Scottishdragon

I’m looking forward to his administration opening up deep core fracking in the Yellowstone Caldera.

I intend to take my folding chair and a cooler with some Sam Adams to the South Rim and watch the massive phreatic explosion and pyroclastic flows wipe out the western third of the continent. Of course, I will have about 15 seconds to actually observe all of this before I effectively become part of the atmosphere myself…but I won’t have to be around to see the last of this sorry shit.

Cool! We should be able to see the proceedings on Periscope before your camera vaporizes! /s

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Scottishdragon  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:39:00pm

re: #115 whitebeach

Fracking is for cucks. Unleash the free market and American know-how. Want energy independence? Let Exxon and BP go for oil using atomics.

Operation Plowshareback for the bucks and radiated groundwater for the cucks!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:39:03pm

The electors going against Trump would be an extremely calculated risk. You KNOW the RWNJs would completely lose their shit were that to happen and violence may not be far behind.

It’s a question of which outcome is the LEAST damaging?

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:41:31pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

I’m seriously questioning my grammar on this comment. Eh. It’s a fucking internet comment.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:44:11pm

Goodnight, lizards.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:45:24pm

re: #114 jaunte

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I’ll say it - I believe a shit ton of incest has gone on in that house.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:45:25pm

re: #108 Scottishdragon

I’m looking forward to his administration opening up deep core fracking in the Yellowstone Caldera.

I would laugh, but these fuckers would be criminally stupid enough to issue a permit for that.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:46:46pm

re: #118 Sherlock Hound

Cool! We should be able to see the proceedings on Periscope before your camera vaporizes! /s

This was what Vine (RIP) was created for.

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BeachDem  Dec 5, 2016 • 8:58:45pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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I wish I could believe there will be enough faithless electors to stop this nightmare from happening.

But do you really want it to be Dem electors who defect and choose Kasich? (I’ve also heard Mitt and Huntsman’s names suggested, but Kasich is the frontrunner in this scheme.) This “Hamilton Electors” thing just makes me nauseous—so the Dems should abandon our party and vote for someone besides Trump. Of course, the Trump electors will do no such thing, so they’ll raise holy hell against the Dems (and, I have to say, it would pretty much make me throw in the towel as well.)

Of course, it’s beyond comprehension that enough Republican electors would cross over, do the right thing and vote for Hillary, but the faithless Dem electors are expected to break away and vote for fucking Kasich. Ugh. The whole thing makes me sick.

I hate and fear Trump as much or more than anyone else, but I think this Hamilton Electors thing is the worst possible solution.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:04:20pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I am bad person, because when I saw the objects on the couch next to Melania I was reminded of condom wrappers.

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:08:09pm

What a marathon village board meeting (just got back, three hours long). Much of the village was there about the boil water order (let’s say they are upset).

Thanks to PepsiCo for donating sixty cases of water to the village.

Board reorganisation: The Chairwoman pro-tempore’s term expired. She did not run for reëlection, leaving two seats open on the board. Before the reorganisation, she nominated a rancher who lives in town to fill the empty seat instead of my wife. Rancher was accepted.

Cherokee woman who ran on a write-in campaign was sworn in.

I was made chairman pro-tempore, the other trustee who was elected in 2014 was made chairwoman.

That makes me vice-mayor, in charge of hookers and blow.

I was also appointed to be public health committee chair (state law says that must be the chair or chair pro-tempore). I retained my position as sewer superintendent, so things are still looking down, and flag committee chair.

I am somewhat surprised the Democratic Socialist of America member was appointed vice-mayor in an uber-conservative Nebraska Panhandle village, the dude who wears fedoras and has hair below his shoulder blades. (I think the real reason is I am now the longest-serving board member.)

It might also be because the job doesn’t pay anything.

On holiday bonuses, it is traditional the village pays its employees a holiday bonus. I advanced a motion to raise the amount paid by 50%, it was passed after discussion. I then advanced a motion to raise the village clerk’s wages by 25%. She waived her right to go into Executive session, so the discussion was before the assembled members of the village over her pay.

After much heated discussion about the amount of work she has to do for such a small town, the board passed the wage increase.

Set next month’s agenda, broke for holiday party.

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ObserverArt  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:10:04pm

Heh, While checking on sportsball scores I saw this about the Cleveland Cavs and some other NBA teams not staying in Trump Hotel(s) when in New York city for games.

ESPN - Sources: LeBron James among Cavs not staying at Donald Trump-branded hotel in New York

A group of Cleveland Cavaliers players have been excused from staying at the team’s planned accommodations, the Trump SoHo hotel in lower Manhattan, when the defending champions visit New York City this week to play the New York Knicks, multiple team sources told espn.com.

Other members of the team’s traveling party will stay at the 46-story luxury building opened in 2010 and branded through a licensing agreement with President-elect Donald Trump, as the Cavs have a contract with the establishment.

LeBron James is included in the faction of players who will not be staying at the Trump SoHo, according to multiple sources. James publicly endorsed Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton about a month before Clinton lost the election.

espn.com previously reported that at least three other teams will cease their business relationships with Trump-branded hotels this season.

Since Trump’s win Nov. 8, several Cavs players have expressed their disappointment in the results. Reserve forward Richard Jefferson suggested on his Snapchat account that the Cavs’ trip to the nation’s capital to celebrate their championship with President Barack Obama would make them the “last team to visit the White House.” Jefferson later elaborated, “I just look across this league. There’s been other players with ‘scheduling conflicts’ as they like to call it — not necessarily a political stance. But I could see other scheduling conflicts coming up.”

Reserve guard Iman Shumpert echoed Jefferson’s take, telling Complex, “I’m not going to the White House,” should the Cavs win a second consecutive championship.

“I understand people’s stance on Trump,” Shumpert said. “I can’t get caught up in the racial, sexist bulls—- he’s got going on. That’s his personal thing, ya dig? But I just don’t think he can make anything shake like that. He not finna start no civil war out here. I do think he’s crazy — straight-up. I think he did that stuff to get people to think he’s willing to shake it up. But did I vote for him? No. The other stuff that comes with him, I can’t get with. But now that he’s here, I’m not finna drag my feet. I gotta work here, at least until the offseason, if I wanna go get a crib in the islands.”

Cavs shooting guard J.R. Smith also posted on Instagram his dismay with the election through the prism of his daughter.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:11:24pm

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

‘Member Granada? I ‘member!

Trey and Matt have introduced an insidious little thing in their show, methinks. They’re good.

You ‘member Nirvana and Kurt Cobain? YAA! I ‘member! Entertain Us! YAA! I ‘member!

Oy …

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:14:08pm

Hey, is there a link to our fraudulent news source list?

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:15:25pm

re: #104 jaunte

No one voted for Ivanka Trump.

But actually, in their fevered dreams they did.

They are going to be rewarded.

Trump played the ‘mericans.

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joe90  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:17:03pm

re: #131 teleskiguy

Here ya go.

propornot.com

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Bass Reeves  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:17:20pm

re: #128 Anymouse

HOW ABOUT THAT FOR A CHANGE IN FORTUNES!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:21:36pm

i see where our president elect is initiating his new foreign policy by pissing on china

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:22:23pm

re: #133 joe90

Thanks.

I’m pretty sure LGF has our own list of such sites. They’re prohibited from being posted here ‘cause Charles is a wizard.

So, heh! I’ll re-word that. Is there a link to a list of prohibited sites at LGF?

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:28:46pm

re: #134 Bass Reeves

HOW ABOUT THAT FOR A CHANGE IN FORTUNES!

Surprised the crap out of me.

The outgoing chairwoman pro-tempore consulted the village attorney on reorganisation of the village board. His suggestion was I either be placed as chairman or chairman pro-tempore because of my length of service on the village board and she agreed.

Amazingly, so did everyone else.

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joe90  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:28:57pm

re: #136 teleskiguy

Yeah, sorry about that, a second read and the penny dropped.

And yes, apparently there is a list but I’ve no idea where to find it.

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BlueGrl21  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:29:58pm

re: #93 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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It’s sweet that Paul Ryan has discovered 1 in 5 Americans has a mental illness and 60% got no treatment last year. And that he thinks he is going to somehow provide help with….what?

A mental illness can be chemical, a personality disorder, ADHD, PTSD and abuse recovery, wrapped up in substance addiction and recovery, anxiety disorders, so many things. And medications can be different for EVERYONE.

It’s freaking complicated in a way Paul Ryan cannot IMAGINE. Government interference in treating mental health issues by any means other than providing funding to patients and research organizations scares the SHIT out of me.

I am bipolar with an anxiety disorder, both genetic gifts from my father. My brain is very finely wired. My medications have been calibrated over 15 years with my psychiatrist. I have a psychologist when needed to get me back on line with the world. I have a tremendous support system in my family and friends and coworkers. I am ridiculously compliant with my meds. And I function “normally.” I have to tell people or they don’t know about any of it.

If even one thing in the paragraph above is missing, there is no more “normal.”

That’s what it takes. Not, “help is on the way.”

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joe90  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:33:17pm

Neil Finn takes a punt on why our Prime Minister resigned yesterday.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:33:25pm

re: #139 BlueGrl21

He’s talking about LGBT people…

(Wish I was kidding)

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TedStriker  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:33:47pm

re: #137 Anymouse

Surprised the crap out of me.

The outgoing chairwoman pro-tempore consulted the village attorney on reorganisation of the village board. His suggestion was I either be placed as chairman or chairman pro-tempore because of my length of service on the village board and she agreed.

Amazingly, so did everyone else.

I think that you have more people in your town (in positions that matter) that have your back than you realized.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:34:05pm

re: #138 joe90

I know of no such link to *our* list. I do know that a list is maintained and anytime you try and post any links from that list it is blocked here.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:35:11pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:35:55pm

Please ReLoad my #143, I kind of fucked up …

:P

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joe90  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:37:18pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

I guess that’ll be why I can’t find the list.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:38:25pm

re: #135 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i see where our president elect is initiating his new foreign policy by pissing on china

Others more expert than I have already weighed in on Trump’s anti-China tweetstorm, but I can tell you he’s playing with fire. Xi Jinping is hard-nosed and much better informed and educated than Donald Trump. China has a wide assortment of tactics it can apply to make Trump’s term in office a fucking nightmare for Trump.

Here’s my guess as to how this all played out, given my familiarity with the Trump playbook. He has this phone conversation with Taiwan’s president Tsai (who is pro-independence and anti-reunification with the mainland), and naturally tweets about it in his self-serving “Hey, guys, guess who I just talked to — another world leader!” way. Then, Trump is stupefied when everyone says he did a completely stupid thing. The White House is mad. Beijing is mad. State is mad. So, he tweets in his usual kneejerk fashion, “Well, she called ME!” (A lie) Then, he goes on a tweet rampage against China, as he does with SNL, The NY Times and anyone else who crosses him, which only makes things worse. And he doesn’t understand he’s made it worse.

Meanwhile, his numbskull supporters *praise* him for standing up to the Commies and all-but-recognizing Taiwan as a separate sovereign nation, which would have been just peachy if it were still 1966 and we hadn’t signed all these treaties and international agreements with China and Taiwan since then. In their “Red Dawn” version of world politics, there can be no grave consequences to flipping off China in favor of Taiwan, because Wolverines!

I think I need to invest in a T-shirt and ballcap, each with the phrase “I didn’t vote for Trump” in Chinese characters, if I plan to stay here any longer.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:48:51pm

The stupid is out in full force. Seeing posts on relatives Facebook pages calling for boycotting Panda Express…Chun King and La Choy products, too.

At least I’m not seeing them do the Freedom Fries shtick and call for renaming a dish “General MacArthur’s Chicken” but something’s telling me that’s coming down the pike…

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:50:40pm

re: #148 Joe Bacon

The stupid is out in full force. Seeing posts on relatives Facebook pages calling for boycotting Panda Express…Chun King and La Choy products, too.

At least I’m not seeing them do the Freedom Fries shtick and call for renaming a dish “General MacArthur’s Chicken” but something’s telling me that’s coming down the pike…

The stupid, it burns.

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austin_blue  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:56:11pm

re: #147 wheat-dogg

Others more expert than I have already weighed in on Trump’s anti-China tweetstorm, but I can tell you he’s playing with fire. Xi Jinping is hard-nosed and much better informed and educated than Donald Trump. China has a wide assortment of tactics it can apply to make Trump’s term in office a fucking nightmare for Trump.

Here’s my guess as to how this all played out, given my familiarity with the Trump playbook. He has this phone conversation with Taiwan’s president Tsai (who is pro-independence and anti-reunification with the mainland), and naturally tweets about it in his self-serving “Hey, guys, guess who I just talked to — another world leader!” way. Then, Trump is stupefied when everyone says he did a completely stupid thing. The White House is mad. Beijing is mad. State is mad. So, he tweets in his usual kneejerk fashion, “Well, she called ME!” (A lie) Then, he goes on a tweet rampage against China, as he does with SNL, The NY Times and anyone else who crosses him, which only makes things worse. And he doesn’t understand he’s made it worse.

Meanwhile, his numbskull supporters *praise* him for standing up to the Commies and all-but-recognizing Taiwan as a separate sovereign nation, which would have been just peachy if it were still 1966 and we hadn’t signed all these treaties and international agreements with China and Taiwan since then. In their “Red Dawn” version of world politics, there can be no grave consequences to flipping off China in favor of Taiwan, because Wolverines!

I think I need to invest in a T-shirt and ballcap, each with the phrase “I didn’t vote for Trump” in Chinese characters, if I plan to stay here any longer.

I think that’s about right. Clueless was a humorous movie about adolescents in the Valley, but it makes for a disastrous Presidency.

I think I’ll paraphrase a line from Max von Sydow from Hannah and Her Sisters:

If George C. Marshall came back and saw the state of the new American foreign policy, he’d never stop throwing up.

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2016 • 9:59:44pm

re: #150 austin_blue

I think that’s about right. Clueless was a humorous movie about adolescents in the Valley, but it makes for a disastrous Presidency.

I think I’ll paraphrase a line from Max von Sydow from Hannah and Her Sisters:

If George C. Marshall came back and saw the state of the new American foreign policy, he’d never stop throwing up.

Needs a tweet.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:00:24pm

re: #146 joe90

Hey, i ching.

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:02:15pm

re: #142 TedStriker

I think that you have more people in your town (in positions that matter) that have your back than you realized.

Apparently so. As many people as were at the village board meeting tonight (it was a packed house), not a peep or grumble when my name was advanced for Chairman Pro-Tempore.

Perhaps I was a bit too pessimistic about how the townspeople actually felt about me. Had there been a significant objection, my name would have been withdrawn immediately.

I am familiar with the job, I just have not done it before. I will get with the outgoing chairwoman pro-tempore to make sure I understand all the duties I am to fulfil.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:03:05pm

re: #148 Joe Bacon

The stupid is out in full force. Seeing posts on relatives Facebook pages calling for boycotting Panda Express…Chun King and La Choy products, too.

At least I’m not seeing them do the Freedom Fries shtick and call for renaming a dish “General MacArthur’s Chicken” but something’s telling me that’s coming down the pike…

La Choy — founded by a South Korean immigrant and his American-born partner in Michigan in 1922. Currently, it is part of the ConAgra Foods comglomerate, headquartered in the Chinese metropolis of Chicago, Illinois.

Chun King — founded by an Italian-American in the 1940s, it eventually became part of ConAgra Foods, which has phased out the product line. It was briefly owned by a Singapore company.

Panda Express — owned by the Panda Restaurant Group and headquartered in Rosemead, California, it was founded in America by a Chinese-American family in the 1970s.

So boycotting these three (or two, since Chun King is gone now) would in fact harm American businesses, not Chinese businesses. How dumb is that!

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whitebeach  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:04:38pm

re: #148 Joe Bacon

The stupid is out in full force. Seeing posts on relatives Facebook pages calling for boycotting Panda Express…Chun King and La Choy products, too.

At least I’m not seeing them do the Freedom Fries shtick and call for renaming a dish “General MacArthur’s Chicken” but something’s telling me that’s coming down the pike…

Fuck all that Oriental drama. I figure I can make enough for an eighty-foot retirement yacht and a private island in the Bahamas by scoring a contract to build walls around all the Taco Bells.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:07:53pm

re: #154 wheat-dogg

Dumb doesn’t begin to describe it, Wheat-Dogg.

I would not be surprised to see China now grab the reins of the TPP and dictate the deal on their terms and also lock out the US in the process.

Trump will then start a trade war with disastrous global ramifications. But it won’t matter to him. Nero Trump will fiddle while Bannon pours the gasoline on the fire to burn the US economy to a crisp.

I’m just waiting for Caligula Trump to appoint his horse to the Supreme Court…

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:09:22pm

re: #155 whitebeach

Fuck all that Oriental drama. I figure I can make enough for an eighty-foot retirement yacht and a private island in the Bahamas by scoring a contract to build walls around all the Taco Bells.

I’m just waiting for the wackos to demand that the name be changed to “Liberty Bells”…

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whitebeach  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:12:03pm

re: #157 Joe Bacon

I’m just waiting for the wackos to demand that the name be changed to “Liberty Bells”…

Or, to honor the season, Jingo Bells.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:13:15pm

re: #155 whitebeach

Fuck all that Oriental drama. I figure I can make enough for an eighty-foot retirement yacht and a private island in the Bahamas by scoring a contract to build walls around all the Taco Bells.

It might even work, since most Trumpistas probably don’t know Taco Bell is a subsidiary of Yum! Foods, based in Louisville, KY, which also owns KFC, Pizza Hut and WingStreet.

If RWNJs really want to boycott Chinese products, they’d really be boycotting most American companies who outsource from Chinese suppliers. If they wanted to boycott Mexican products, they’d need to give up using products made in Mexico which they probably don’t use now, like tequila, hot sauce and Univision. And if they checked their clothing labels, they’d find a fair amount of “western wear” like belts and blue jeans are made in Mexico.

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:14:42pm

re: #153 Anymouse

re: #153 Anymouse

You are doing much to show them that the people in their midst who do not agree with them politically are good human beans.

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BeachDem  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:15:00pm

re: #159 wheat-dogg

It might even work, since most Trumpistas probably don’t know Taco Bell is a subsidiary of Yum! Foods, based in Louisville, KY, which also owns KFC, Pizza Hut and WingStreet.

If RWNJs really want to boycott Chinese products, they’d really be boycotting most American companies who outsource from Chinese suppliers. If they wanted to boycott Mexican products, they’d need to give up using products made in Mexico which they probably don’t use now, like tequila, hot sauce and Univision. And if they checked their clothing labels, they’d find a fair amount of “western wear” like belts and blue jeans are made in Mexico.

And they’d have to give up Trump products (father and daughter)

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:18:22pm

re: #156 Joe Bacon

Dumb doesn’t begin to describe it, Wheat-Dogg.

I would not be surprised to see China now grab the reins of the TPP and dictate the deal on their terms and also lock out the US in the process.

Trump will then start a trade war with disastrous global ramifications. But it won’t matter to him. Nero Trump will fiddle while Bannon pours the gasoline on the fire to burn the US economy to a crisp.

I’m just waiting for Caligula Trump to appoint his horse to the Supreme Court…

The IMF recently decided to make the Chinese yuan a reserve currency, like the euro, the pound and the US dollar. If Trump starts a trade war, the ultimate loser will be the USA. If he tanks the economy, the dollar will be weaker and more international investors will trade those dollars for yuan.

Note that Trump has no properties on the mainland, AFAIK. But his buddy Sheldon Adelson has a few in Macau.

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whitebeach  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:18:24pm

re: #159 wheat-dogg

It might even work, since most Trumpistas probably don’t know Taco Bell is a subsidiary of Yum! Foods, based in Louisville, KY, which also owns KFC, Pizza Hut and WingStreet.

If RWNJs really want to boycott Chinese products, they’d really be boycotting most American companies who outsource from Chinese suppliers. If they wanted to boycott Mexican products, they’d need to give up using products made in Mexico which they probably don’t use now, like tequila, hot sauce and Univision. And if they checked their clothing labels, they’d find a fair amount of “western wear” like belts and blue jeans are made in Mexico.

Remember all the grief when Obama ordered a hot dog with “maybe some Grey Poupon”? What an elitist cheese-eating frog surrender monkey he was for wanting a mustard made in Illinois by a subsidiary of Kraft foods.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:22:48pm

re: #163 whitebeach

Remember all the grief when Obama ordered a hot dog with “maybe some Grey Poupon”? What an elitist cheese-eating frog surrender monkey he was for wanting a mustard made in Illinois by a subsidiary of Kraft foods.

They really don’t understand that most of the food products they buy with exotic names are in fact American-made. Haagen-Dazs is not Dutch. Grey Poupon is not French. La Choy is not Chinese. T Bell is not Mexican. Outback Steakhouse is not Australian. And on and on.

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austin_blue  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:23:05pm

re: #151 retired cynic

Needs a tweet.

I’m not on Twitter. Get off of my lawn!

If anyone else thinks it should be posted up, please feel free.

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Cheechako  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:23:20pm

If, as Paul Ryan states, 1 in 5 adult Americans have a mental illness, think about Congress. If that statement is true, then out of 535 members, 107 must have some sort of mental illness.

OH, wait….he said “adult” Americans. Disregard.

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austin_blue  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:26:50pm

re: #158 whitebeach

Or, to honor the season, Jingo Bells.

It’s the new War on Christmas if it doesn’t happen.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:30:43pm

re: #150 austin_blue

I think that’s about right. Clueless was a humorous movie about adolescents in the Valley, but it makes for a disastrous Presidency.

I think I’ll paraphrase a line from Max von Sydow from Hannah and Her Sisters:

If George C. Marshall came back and saw the state of the new American foreign policy, he’d never stop throwing up.

Trump in a real sense never grew out of adolescence. His behavior pattern is entirely predictable. He does everything impulsively, for immediate gratification — buying the Plaza Hotel, starting two casinos in Atlantic City, speaking with world leaders — with no consideration of what happens next. He has no long-range strategy for much of anything. Then, when things inevitably go sour, he either lies about what he did or tries to deflect blame onto someone else, or both, while attacking the people who point out it was his fault things went sour.

Basically, we will have the world’s oldest Problem Child in the Oval Office — assuming he ever shows up for work.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:32:09pm

re: #166 Cheechako

If, as Paul Ryan states, 1 in 5 adult Americans have a mental illness, think about Congress. If that statement is true, then out of 535 members, 107 must have some sort of mental illness.

OH, wait….he said “adult” Americans. Disregard.

If I have the figures right, 1 in 5 voters picked Donald Trump on Nov. 8.

I rest my case.

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:34:22pm

re: #169 wheat-dogg

If I have the figures right, 1 in 5 voters picked Donald Trump on Nov. 8.

I rest my case.

Ah, tweet that!!

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whitebeach  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:35:53pm

re: #155 whitebeach

Seriously, dog philosopher, you downdinged this? Why?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:36:49pm

This is the real America.

Instagram

“I come from Ghana. I’m always smiling. People ask me: ‘Isaac, why are you always smiling?’ I tell them: ‘What else can I do?’ I am so blessed to be in this country. I work in customer service at the CVS on 57th Street and I love it. CVS is the best place that I love so much. I help people with their needs and it makes me so happy. I help them with their coupons. I help them with their medication. People bring me their challenges and I solve their problems. You can say that I am their champion. I am not a citizen. But when I help people with their problems, that makes me part of the community. So I do feel like an American.”

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austin_blue  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:37:43pm

re: #168 wheat-dogg

Trump in a real sense never grew out of adolescence. His behavior pattern is entirely predictable. He does everything impulsively, for immediate gratification — buying the Plaza Hotel, starting two casinos in Atlantic City, speaking with world leaders — with no consideration of what happens next. He has no long-range strategy for much of anything. Then, when things inevitably go sour, he either lies about what he did or tries to deflect blame onto someone else, or both, while attacking the people who point out it was his fault things went sour.

Basically, we will have the world’s oldest Problem Child in the Oval Office — assuming he ever shows up for work.

I like it when people get my metaphors. Thanks!

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:39:18pm

re: #170 retired cynic

Ah, tweet that!!

Done

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:42:07pm

re: #160 retired cynic

You are doing much to show them that the people in their midst who do not agree with them politically are good human beans.

Well, I’m trying.

In a bit of levity, a resident asked during the village board meeting what someone could do about the boil water order if they didn’t want to take the time to actually boil water.

(Unofficially, our reverse-osmosis units in every home, mandated by the EPA, will actually take care of the coliform problem. Officially, we can’t say that.)

I suggested substituting rum, which got a bunch of laughs.

A retest of our water went to Scottsbluff’s lab a couple days ago; we’re waiting for the results. If it comes back negative, we can rescind the boil order. If it comes back positive again, we have to chlorinate our water supply. (Our water supply is untreated; pumped right out of the ground and into the water tower.)

The iron company we had come inspect the water tower after the first positive test came back noting that birds had built a set of nests in the water tower vents; that might have been the source of the contamination. They cleaned out the bird nests and fixed the screens; the tower was flushed (that’s a lot of water).

The village water pipes were also flushed out by the Fire Department through the hydrants; hopefully this test will pass.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:43:05pm

It is Alicia Machado’s birthday. That is all.

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austin_blue  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:43:57pm

re: #176 wheat-dogg

It is Alicia Machado’s birthday. That is all.

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She seems nice.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:45:01pm

Currently awaiting a polar vortex at my twenty. These big huge tall mountains to the east is keeping it at bay, for now.

Highs in the single digits by mid-week.

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:45:39pm

re: #178 teleskiguy

snow?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:47:31pm

re: #177 austin_blue

She seems nice.

She’s the former Miss Universe contestant whom Trump fat-shamed and later attacked during the campaign for making his remarks public. Naturally, he double-downed on his body-shaming remarks, as every potential world leader does when shown to be an ass.

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:47:54pm

re: #178 teleskiguy

Currently awaiting a polar vortex at my twenty. These big huge tall mountains to the east is keeping it at bay, for now.

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Highs in the single digits by mid-week.

It’s colder here, 17 degrees. Expecting snow Wednesday, we start our car trip to Sacramento Thursday.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:48:14pm

About some of those family photos of the Trumps…

(Context, for those who don’t know, is that Anne escaped an abusive ex-husband with her two boys before meeting Wil Wheaton and eventually marrying him.)

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:48:31pm

re: #179 retired cynic

snow?

Quite possibly maybe. Definitely in the higher mountains.

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austin_blue  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:49:00pm

re: #178 teleskiguy

Currently awaiting a polar vortex at my twenty. These big huge tall mountains to the east is keeping it at bay, for now.

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Highs in the single digits by mid-week.

Strap in, boyo, we are getting a soft freeze in Austin on Friday morning. Only 29, no reason to run the taps, but that’s pretty early for us in the city.

And good night, dear friends. Sweet dreams and a lovely tomorrow.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:51:31pm

re: #184 austin_blue

Strap in, boyo, we are getting a soft freeze in Austin on Friday morning. Only 29, no reason to run the taps, but that’s pretty early for us in the city.

And good night, dear friends. Sweet dreams and a lovely tomorrow.

I only run the taps when it’s well below zero. That only happens a handful of times during a winter, if at all.

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:54:07pm

This may impact our trip Thursday. Snow expected on I-80 from Sidney, NE to Laramie, WY. Wind chills in our area -25F. Yikes.

I will need to go in the cyclone cellar and turn on the 300W incandescent light which is next to my kitchen pipes (that’s what keeps them from freezing, along with keeping the cupboard under the sink open).

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wheat-dogg  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:56:45pm

You guys are talking about snow and stuff. Here it’s sunny and 60 degrees. And I have a head cold. Life is unfair.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:57:14pm

re: #176 wheat-dogg

Yah, on the Trump scale she’s maybe a six or a seven.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:57:25pm

re: #187 wheat-dogg

You guys are talking about snow and stuff. Here it’s sunny and 60 degrees. And I have a head cold. Life is unfair.

Don’t worry, here our low tomorrow is expected to be the un-CA-like temperature of 38.

What snow?

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Cheechako  Dec 5, 2016 • 10:58:41pm

I guess getting a bailout is not enough to increase profits:

The manufacturer that Trump convinced to keep 1,000 jobs in the US is now raising prices

Less than a week ago, Carrier was persuaded by President-elect Donald Trump to keep about 1,000 jobs in Indiana. Now, the air conditioner and furnace manufacturer is raising its prices.

United Technologies Corp., Carrier’s parent company, is raising prices for its heating, ventilation, and air conditioning equipment by up to 5%, starting January 1. The decision to raise prices was first announced on November 23, the week before the Trump deal was finalized.

Until last week, the manufacturer had planned to move 2,100 jobs to Mexico to cut costs. The move would have saved United Technologies an estimated $65 million a year.

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 11:02:20pm

re: #187 wheat-dogg

You guys are talking about snow and stuff. Here it’s sunny and 60 degrees. And I have a head cold. Life is unfair.

Yeek. I just looked at Laramie, Wyoming’s upcoming weather (since we have to drive through Laramie), -25F temperatures (not wind chills). Thirty mph winds on top of that.

I am going to wrap the Smart car in five or six blankets. Might consider going into town to buy tire chains if it snows too much. (Somehow the image of tire chains on a Smart seems a bit silly.)

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whitebeach  Dec 5, 2016 • 11:11:45pm

re: #191 Anymouse

Yeek. I just looked at Laramie, Wyoming’s upcoming weather (since we have to drive through Laramie), -25F temperatures (not wind chills). Thirty mph winds on top of that.

I am going to wrap the Smart car in five or six blankets. Might consider going into town to buy tire chains if it snows too much. (Somehow the image of tire chains on a Smart seems a bit silly.)

Please contemplate the fact that people sometimes postpone trips, and that there is often a good reason for this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2016 • 11:13:02pm

re: #190 Cheechako

I guess getting a bailout is not enough to increase profits:

The manufacturer that Trump convinced to keep 1,000 jobs in the US is now raising prices

ask them how much the CEO earns

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Cheechako  Dec 5, 2016 • 11:15:17pm

re: #191 Anymouse

Yeek. I just looked at Laramie, Wyoming’s upcoming weather (since we have to drive through Laramie), -25F temperatures (not wind chills). Thirty mph winds on top of that.

I am going to wrap the Smart car in five or six blankets. Might consider going into town to buy tire chains if it snows too much. (Somehow the image of tire chains on a Smart seems a bit silly.)

I lived in Laramie for 21 years. Be very careful on the stretch of I-80 between Laramie and Cheyenne. Don’t overdrive the conditions and watch out for the other drivers. If there’s not much snow you can take the Happy Jack Road between Cheyenne and the Summit. Much less traffic to worry about. Much less wind on this route.

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 11:48:55pm

re: #160 retired cynic

You are doing much to show them that the people in their midst who do not agree with them politically are good human beans.

Well, I still have to deal with “you’re not one of those liberals.”

The hardest part of that is trying to convince everyone that while all liberals are not like me (and that’s a good thing), we really aren’t out to take their guns, kick their dogs, or seize all their businesses in a socialistic orgy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2016 • 11:49:23pm

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He made $10.8 Million last year.

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Anymouse  Dec 5, 2016 • 11:53:15pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

He made $10.8 Million last year.

Socialism for the rich, bootstraps for everyone else; the conservative way. Thanks, Obama.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:08:38am
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VegasGolfer  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:44:07am

latimes.com

A story about a woman shouting bible verses on an airline flight ends up getting herself
restrained in plastic cuffs
A white male rabid trump supporter disrupts a flight and nothing happens until outrage at Delta from concerned (terrorized?) fellow passengers and public.
White privilege? Sure appears so.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:44:28am

Now here’s something to be proud of. //

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s future policy stance poses “the single largest risk to the global economy,” according to a client survey by forecasting firm Oxford Economics Ltd.

More than half of respondents said that the probability of a sharp slowdown has increased over the past three months, according to the firm’s Nov. 14-21 survey on global risk perceptions conducted among about 180 clients and contacts.

Twenty-seven percent said a potential trade war triggered by Trump was the top risk to the global economy over the next two years, followed by 23 percent who said a more severe downturn in the Chinese economy was the top risk. Trump also was seen as the most likely source of faster global growth, with 38 percent citing the potential for the U.S. economy to surge on new fiscal stimulus he has proposed.

bloomberg.com

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teleskiguy  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:56:09am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:57:12am

Nice, upstanding member of the community who decided to shoot up Comet Pizza actually had three guns on him:
wtop.com

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unproven innocence  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:14:48am

re: #46 Unshaken Defiance

So, been reading this book. “The Gift Of Fear” Big bestseller by this guy that evaluates the potential for violence from individuals. One of the concepts is trusting your intuition. All that evolution gives us humans a keen sense of threat, aka intuition. He puts some hard reality to it via a variety of ideas. One of those is the rule of opposites. How many times does a guy show an opposite from the expected normal reaction in the presence of women? amazon.com

Trump flunks the test.

Bought and read that book several years ago when my daughters were teens, on the recommendation of another lizard, somethingManners. Interesting book.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:41:11am

re: #191 Anymouse

(Somehow the image of tire chains on a Smart seems a bit silly.)

Less silly than your cantankerous ass upside down in a ditch. Get the chains.

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freetoken  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:56:23am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:58:33am

re: #150 austin_blue

I think that’s about right. Clueless was a humorous movie about adolescents in the Valley, but it makes for a disastrous Presidency.

Not that Clueless alum Stacey Dash would bother to care.

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freetoken  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:01:14am

Youtube version if the mp3 doesn’t stream:

Giuseppe Torelli “Concerto op. 8 No. 6” Christmas concerto”

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:02:43am

Greetings from Austria! Hope everyone is well.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:04:10am

Rage Furby continues his protracted fight to extract money from Gawker Media. IANAL, but this latest filing seems to be sour grapes about Gawker proposing a settlement with two other litigants — and not Chuck C. Johnson and Got Nooz LLC — and the new bankruptcy plan preventing further litigation against Gawker employees. The latter stipulation would mean Rage Furby would be obliged to abandon his vendetta lawsuit against two Gawker writers.

cases.primeclerk.com

It was filed yesterday.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:09:45am

re: #204 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Less silly than your cantankerous ass upside down in a ditch. Get the chains.

Well, we hit a deer with it at sixty miles per hour a couple years ago. Totalled the deer, no damage to the car or us.

Smart cars are pretty tough; that said, I don’t want to have to unbuckle myself and my wife whilst hanging upside-down in the car. Banging my head on the ceiling and fighting with fourteen airbags to get out might be tough too.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:11:03am

re: #206 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Not that Clueless alum Stacey Dash would bother to care.

Looks better that way.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:11:08am

Trump once again proves he’s a shitty deal-maker.

For sure, every CEO in America and abroad will look at the Carrier deal and figure out some way to get a similar sweetheart arrangement.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:16:00am

re: #211 Anymouse

Looks better that way.

I almost wrote “star” but that would have been a grotesque misuse of the word “star.”

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:43:55am

re: #212 wheat-dogg

In response to reading that article from Mr. Willis, I sent the following to my Trump-supporting acquaintances (I don’t think I can call a Trump supporter “friend” any more):

(Link included in original E-mail)

Well, after Donald Trump got Governor Mike Pence of Indiana to pay a corporate bribe with taxmoney to Carrier (the heating and air conditioning firm Mr. Trump alleges he saved jobs at for a mere $7million in tax abatements): The CEO of its parent company, United Technologies, notes on video that he essentially swindled Trump and Pence. (Moreover, Pence has been governor of Indiana for four years, and until now, “saving jobs” at Carrier has not concerned him.)

The political commentator Oliver Willis has notes about the deal, and the video of CEO Greg Hayes noting he stiffed Trump, Pence, and the Indiana taxpayers. The article includes a clip from the conservative-leaning business television channel CNBC with an interview of United Technologies’s CEO essentially gloating over how he swindled Trump voters. (Actually, all voters. Moreover, since Carrier pulled this off, other corporations will expect the same. Why not hold the government hostage if the President’s team will cave so readily and shovel taxmoney out the door?)

From that clip, the reveal that Trump, Pence, and Carrier have swindled the Indiana taxpayers (somehow a billionaire claiming to be an outsider when he admits to buying politicians in the past is about as ludicrous as a unicorn in Manhattan):

Hayes told host Jim Cramer how despite Trump’s campaign pledge to keep Carrier jobs from moving to Mexico, “We still got to do the preponderance of the restructuring, which we were going to do anyways. So it’s — I would say no ‘deal,’ but at the end of the day a good deal for UTC.”

Despite Trump’s announcement and public relations stunt, Carrier will still be exporting over 1,000 jobs to their facility in Mexico. While at the same time the company is receiving $7 million in tax breaks to keep less than 900 jobs in Indiana.

The negotiations also excluded the union, so it is possible the workers staying behind may have their salaries cut in order to give Trump a public relations talking point.

This is called socialism for corporations and the rich, and bootstraps for everyone else. Aside from the fascism, overt bigotry, Nazi and Mussolini quotes, and threats to the Constitution’s free speech and freedom of religion clauses, now Trump and his team are setting up the government to serve corporations your tax money. Like Mitt Romney said in 2012, Corporations are People, my friend.

(Donald Trump owns stock in United Technologies. The ball-bearing plant right next door to the Carrier plant is also moving, and Mr. Trump and Gov. Pence did nothing about those jobs. It’s almost as if Mr. Trump intends to run the government like a piggy bank for the Trump Organisation.)

On the other hand, it would appear that Mr. Trump’s Nazi tendencies are what his supporters voted for, not economics (as the economy always improves under Democrats and always falters under Republicans - ever since the turn of the XX Century, without exception). They certainly didn’t care about freedom of speech, press, or religion.

(signed)

“When they come, they come, to build a wall between us, we know that they won’t win.” — Neil Finn (from the song “Don’t Dream It’s Over” by Crowded House, 1986). Neil Finn performs in Auckland on acoustic guitar backed by strings in a mesmerising performance in 2015 (4:44) - very apropos for the upcoming administration.

The Berlin Wall was built to “keep people out” too. Conservative Saint Ronald Reagan (Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall) must be rolling in his grave over Republicans selling out our country to Russia and Nazis. In one fell swoop, conservatives repudiated my entire military career, and my family fleeing the Nazis from Poland. Thanks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 4:15:13am

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Too many people just don’t realize how incredibly dangerous a Trump presidency is going to be. The time for academic arguments about moral equivalence is fucking past.

During the next 4 years, Donald Trump will bring the world to the brink of annihilation over and over again, then brag about his “ratings” on Twitter. I believe he would be happy to let millions die for the goddamn ratings.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 4:32:48am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

During the next 4 years, Donald Trump will bring the world to the brink of annihilation over and over again, then brag about his “ratings” on Twitter. I believe he would be happy to let millions die for the goddamn ratings.

I just watched that Keith Olbermann clip. That called for a heavy dose of rum and cranberry juice.

My wife discussed the idea of going to Canada from Sacramento. I pointed out that Canada is not far enough and we don’t have enough money to go to Mars. We need to stay and fight this nonsense.

As much as I despise Governor Pence’s political positions, Gov. Pence is not an idiot when it comes to governance. We could survive a Pence Administration (albeit with likely setbacks to progressive gains since the Gilded Age). I’m not so sure about a Trump Administration.

I intend to contact my Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE) and exhort him to continue to resist Mr. Trump’s agenda. (My other senator, Deb Fischer, is an early supporter of Trump and a hopeless case.) If nothing else, I hope to appeal to Senator Sasse’s understanding of history (he is a history professor by education) to hold the line, with the Democrats if necessary. (I realise a GOP senator throwing in with Democrats is something like Superman shoving kryptonite down his red shorts, but we have to deal with the senators we have, not the ones we wish we had.)

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wheat-dogg  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:01:16am

re: #214 Anymouse

Well said. Corporate Republicans will no doubt see the Trump administration as a cash cow, but the Tea Party types who supported him will not see a dime. Probably, they will lose dimes. We need to remind them constantly that Trump was, is and will never be a friend of the common people. Also, he lies like a rug, which I remind his supporters on FB repeatedly.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:07:24am

This evening and early morning congratulations are pouring in from family and friends for my appointment as the Chairman Pro-Tempore of my village board of trustees.

I pointed out to each that called or E-mailed that I really didn’t do much to deserve the post. It was mostly because I am willing to stick out an unpaid elected position and am willing to fight for villagers’ issues (small as those might be on the national scale of things).

Still, I can’t help but indulge in a bit of self-satisfaction at the idea the most liberal person in town is now in the village government’s second-most important position.

On that note, I feel somewhat ashamed that I should be self-satisfied in that achievement. I have neither done much to deserve a pat on the back nor advance a progressive cause in an insignificant village in the middle of nowhere amongst cattle and corn.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:08:19am

re: #217 wheat-dogg

“We need to remind them constantly that Trump was, is and will never be a friend of the common people.”

Do you think that Tea Baggers care about this? I doubt it. I’ve even noticed that in my blue state of MD, the racists have come out and shown who they are after Trump’s win. They don’t care about the “common people” unless those people are White, straight Christian Republicans. I don’t see anything much that Trump will do to piss them off except not go hard against Brown, Black and gay people.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:08:56am

re: #218 Anymouse

Good for you!! Doing some good in this world, I see.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:17:59am

re: #220 Patricia Kayden

Good for you!! Doing some good in this world, I see.

Well, I am trying anyway. The village has a resident and city government official that stands in direct opposition to the idea that liberals do not care about them, or atheists are immoral and evil.
The particular item that got the attention of my village was a couple years ago. Our village clerk who served the village for starvation wages (good thing she was a millionaire rancher) for over two decades passed away from cancer. She was much-loved by the village.

I pressed the state government for two days, until then-Governor Heinemann declared the day of her funeral a state-wide holiday in a statewide proclamation published in every newspaper in the state.

There were an awful lot of people in the village that appreciated that particular notice from the state governor.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:29:42am

The text of the proclamation, which I wrote and the state governor accepted unchanged in his proclamation:

WHEREAS, Brandi Livingston née Lally, was a native of Bridgeport and Broadwater, Nebraska, and graduate of Bridgeport, Nebraska High School; and

WHEREAS, Brandi Livingston served as the Village Clerk of Broadwater, Nebraska for 26 years; and

WHEREAS, Brandi Livingston was named Nebraska Outstanding Water Operator in 2010; and

WHEREAS, Brandi Livingston was named the League of Nebraska Municipalities Municipal Clerk of the Year in 2013; and

WHEREAS, Brandi Livingston served on the Scottsbluff/Morrill County Extension Board; and

WHEREAS, Brandi Livingston was very active in the community, serving on the board of Prairie Winds Community Center in Bridgeport, and taught Sunday School, youth groups, and Vacation Bible School at Messiah Lutheran Church in Broadwater; and

WHEREAS, Brandi Livingston faithfully and honorably discharged her duties as Village Clerk of Broadwater, and worked tirelessly to serve the citizens of Broadwater in fulfilling the mission of the Village Board of Trustees, which is to protect and maintain the public confidence through the fair, efficient and experienced supervision of the state-regulated financial interests of Broadwater and the State of Nebraska; and

WHEREAS, Brandi Livingston passed away on July 19, 2014; her funeral will be held July 26, 2014.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Dave Heineman, Governor of the State of Nebraska, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM the 26 of July, 2014 as

BRANDI LIVINGSTON DAY

in Nebraska, and I do hereby acknowledge the contributions Brandi Livingston has made to the citizens of the Village of Broadwater and the State of Nebraska during her successful tenure as Village Clerk of Broadwater.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand, and cause the Great Seal of the State of Nebraska to be affixed this twenty-sixth day of July, in the year of our Lord Two Thousand Fourteen.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:31:44am

re: #222 Anymouse

Damn. Reading that proclamation even now brings tears to my eyes. Forgive me whist I regain my composure and clean up the tears from my face.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:31:56am

re: #222 Anymouse

The text of the proclamation, which I wrote and the state governor accepted unchanged in his proclamation:

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:35:09am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

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Where I live is public information anyway, through my political position and my Amateur Radio and Radiotelephone licenses.

Anyone who would want to cause me harm already knows where I live.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:36:14am

re: #221 Anymouse

Very good bit of work, there. That’s the kind of thing you can keep doing no matter what. Carry on, our wayward Fedora ;)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:38:18am

Betsy DeVos will work hard to guarantee that we will continue to import all our engineers, scientists and programmers from Asia and Russia.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:38:37am

re: #175 Anymouse

Municipal, un-chlorinated water supply? I have never heard of such a thing. Time to get a chlorinating and fluoridating!

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:40:01am

re: #226 William Lewis

Very good bit of work, there. That’s the kind of thing you can keep doing no matter what. Carry on, our wayward Fedora ;)

Thanks. Someone’s gotta do it. I’m trying to hold a progressive and liberal line in the most conservative part of the nation (according to Nate Silver). I will not allow the light of liberal thought go out as long as I can draw a breath here. This is my home, I will fight for it (even if I am not electable beyond my village board).

Someone’s gotta do it.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:41:45am

re: #93 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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Help is on the way by cutting the ACA? How does that work?

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:43:47am

re: #228 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Municipal, un-chlorinated water supply? I have never heard of such a thing. Time to get a chlorinating and fluoridating!

We have never needed to chlorinate our water supply.

The EPA requires reverse osmosis filters in every home because we have unacceptable levels of arsenic and uranium, but our water is very, very clean. It is so clean that multiple state and Federal tests every year reveal our water does not need treatment of any sort. (That saves us money as well.) The Feds and the state closely monitor us, including inspectors when we take water samples for testing, because they cannot accept our water is so clean.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:50:59am

re: #230 Eventual Carrion

Help is on the way by cutting the ACA? How does that work?

Magic, just like how flag burning bans and sagging pants bills would fix every problem in the country.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:55:09am

Damn, you’ll have to excuse me a few minutes; reading the proclamation is too emotional; I miss our former village clerk. She was an irreplaceable member of our village.

Too many tears, years after her death.

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Jayleia  Dec 6, 2016 • 5:59:59am

re: #195 Anymouse

Well, I still have to deal with “you’re not one of those liberals.”

The hardest part of that is trying to convince everyone that while all liberals are not like me (and that’s a good thing), we really aren’t out to take their guns, kick their dogs, or seize all their businesses in a socialistic orgy.

Convince them that you are WAY WAY crazy more liberal than most of the others (which, as I understand it, has the benefit of being true). That might help them re-calibrate their perceptions of what liberals are like.

Besides, we would never kick their dogs, because liberals are nice to animals.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:10:07am
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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:10:48am

re: #234 Jayleia

Convince them that you are WAY WAY crazy more liberal than most of the others (which, as I understand it, has the benefit of being true). That might help them re-calibrate their perceptions of what liberals are like.

Besides, we would never kick their dogs, because liberals are nice to animals.

LOL! If I could convince my county I am the craziest (my mother is a psychologist, “crazy” is a technical term for use by professionals only, according to her) moonbat amongst either the Democratic Party or the Democratic Socialists of America (as I belong to both), i could single-handedly flip Nebraska blue.

Forgive me, I am still tearing up about that statewide proclamation I wrote. Perhaps I am too emotional to be a politician.

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:18:49am

I can’t upload the formal proclamation document issued by the state governor, because the size exceeds LGF’s permissions (500kBytes).

The image is of the formal document issued by the state governor, with the formal state seal and governor’s signature.

Damn, who invited all the onion ninjas into my home to surround me. Damn, It has been two years and I still can’t hold back my emotional response (crying).

I suppose that makes it a good thing I am not President… , ,

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:30:19am

Thread needs moar kittehs!

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:31:05am

re: #232 Timothy Watson

Magic, just like how flag burning bans and sagging pants bills would fix every problem in the country.

If someone were to enact a flag-burning ban, how would that square with the Flag Code (which specifies burning a flag which is no longer suitable for display)?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:33:39am

Greetings from your nation’s capital. I’m going on a White House tour this morning, along with some of the other office folk. I’ve been on the grounds before, but hoping this tour lets us see more of the People’s House.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:35:37am

re: #239 Anymouse

If someone were to enact a flag-burning ban, how would that square with the Flag Code (which specifies burning a flag which is no longer suitable for display)?

Arrest military personnel and boy scouts for violating the law!

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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:35:45am

Well, the sun is up, meaning it is past my bedtime.

G’night y’all.

Thanks for having me tonight.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:36:36am

I asked the one guy I’m going to do some micro-political talk with about Pizzagate. He’d heard a little about it and had heard that Flynn had been tweeting about it. That’s a good sign. He doesn’t want to spend too much time on the politics, so we broke into a discussion of conspiracy theories and how people fall for them. He did mention that he reads some British newspapers to get a different perspective.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:37:08am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:38:54am

They have charter schools & homeschooling in the UK too?

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Jayleia  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:42:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:43:35am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:48:19am

TRUMP: “We want Boeing to make a lot of money, but not that much money”

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:48:35am

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

Wait for it, he will want his plane all fixed up for the job. Then keep it upon exit.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:48:53am

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

But Trump will be willing to supply the plane that will be the official president’s plane, as long as you keep the name Trump on the outside.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:49:38am

re: #250 Belafon

But Trump will be willing to supply the plane that will be the official president’s plane, as long as you keep the name Trump on the outside.

Just change the name of the country to Trumpland. Problem solved.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:50:21am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:51:23am

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:52:13am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

SAM 28000 and SAM 29000 - the Presidential wing 747s are highly modified 747-200s from 1990. They are kept in tip-top shape, and they are meticulously cared for. To keep the paint scheme looking perfect, they use talcum powder as anything else would scratch the paint job.

The USAF is set to replace the current 747s with a new 747-800s in the next few years (as early as next year in fact). The new plane will have upgraded avionics, engines, and other modifications that are unique to the presidential wing.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:52:39am

re: #252 darthstar

Next, he’ll claim that by complaining, he got the costs down to $825M each.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:53:38am

He wants to keep flying in his own gold-drenched 757.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:53:48am

re: #255 Belafon

Next, he’ll claim that by complaining, he got the costs down to $825M each.

I’ll hold you too that……

//

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:55:04am

Every day now starts with Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!!

Unfortunately it’s not literally…..

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:55:57am

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

He wants to keep flying in his own gold-drenched 757.

He can’t jack the fuel cost up on AF1, or charge for increased maintenance.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:57:08am

re: #259 Belafon

He can’t jack the fuel cost up on AF1, or charge for increased maintenance.

Or claim depreciation on his company’s taxes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:57:45am

re: #259 Belafon

He can’t jack the fuel cost up on AF1, or charge for increased maintenance.

He will charge rental fee for use of his private jet.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:58:26am

Part of the reason for the higher costs relates to the fact that Boeing is cutting production of the 747-800 as demand for the aircraft has dropped as other 2-engine widebody planes become preferred. Boeing only has the 747-800 as a 4-engine plane that meets the USAF requirements, and Airbus was not considered due to wanting to buy American.

The presidential wing requires special modifications to the flying White House from telcom to avionics and ECM suites that are typically found on USAF fighters and bombers - to protect the most important asset that the US has - the POTUS.

It’s no surprise that Trump is inflating the costs of the plane, because his supporters will idiotically and blindly repeat anything he says, and they don’t care that the costs aren’t anywhere near the actual cost (which could still be quite inflated since it’s the defense acquisition process, which is how you get multibillion dollar aircraft and ships and trillion dollar weapons systems that will take billions of dollars to get working according to design spec).

So, while the GOP demands slashing the safety net, they don’t want to touch the defense establishment gravy train because of jobs, even though the safety net spending has a multiplier effect that makes it far more effective in boosting the economy. Waste in defense spending programs is well documented, but little has been done because too much money changes hands and there are too few defense contractors to do the work because of consolidation.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2016 • 6:59:26am

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

He wants to keep flying in his own gold-drenched 757.

I’m sure if someone put some gold spinning rims on AF1 he’d be okay with it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:00:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:00:41am

re: #245 The Vicious Babushka

Britain’s teenagers still lagging behind other countries in maths, reading and science, international report finds

They have charter schools & homeschooling in the UK too?

They have “public schools”, which is a quaintly misleading British term for private schools. They get the moneyed elite, the rest are dumped in “government schools”, which have been allowed to languish.

Government schools in Scotland have a slightly better reputation, at least outside of the troubled neighborhoods.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:00:46am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:01:16am

I say let Trump fly around in a plane that is not as safe as the new Air Force Ones. If that’s what he wants.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:01:21am

2016 continues to suck:

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:02:14am
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Amory Blaine  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:02:15am

re: #208 Dr. Matt

How’s the driving going? Stay safe over there!

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:04:43am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

Someone needs to point out the actual cost to Harrison.

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Jayleia  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:06:21am

re: #263 darthstar

Fuck you for reminding me of the John Cena spinny belt era of WWE belt design.

Now we return you to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:06:55am

re: #235 Unshaken Defiance

Cannot believe that this is still an issue. Santa doesn’t exist and can therefore be any color/race/national origin. Sigh.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:07:38am

re: #253 Timothy Watson

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His cronies will buy them up and he’ll tweet about the deal being back on.

(missed darth’s tweet above.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:09:17am
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MsJ  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:11:43am

re: #176 wheat-dogg

It is Alicia Machado’s birthday. That is all.

[Embedded content]

Dear God,

Please let me be as fat as Alicia Machado.

Thank you.

Me

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:12:40am

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

A scheme where Trump/family short a stock, plan a tweet to crash it would be a sure-fire way to cash in. We’d never know if they’re doing it

The possibilities are endless…

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:15:20am

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

Scams, scams and more scams. This is going to a great four years for Trump and his offspring. Not so much for the rest of us.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:15:27am

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

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Stanley Sea  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:17:24am

Why do Carrier jobs count but Boeing ones don’t?

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:19:51am

re: #273 Patricia Kayden

Cannot believe that this is still an issue. Santa doesn’t exist and can therefore be any color/race/national origin. Sigh.

But Jesus is white. Megyn Kelly said so. And because Christmas, Jesus and Santa

REASONS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:20:09am

re: #280 Stanley Sea

Why do Carrier jobs count but Boeing ones don’t?

The only jobs that “count” are the ones that Trump can get a photo op, claim credit for & make himself look good.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:21:26am

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

Wall Street’s full of suckers as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:23:37am

re: #273 Patricia Kayden

Cannot believe that this is still an issue. Santa doesn’t exist and can therefore be any color/race/national origin. Sigh.

There was a comment that appeared here long ago: people who do not understand the true meaning of something are the ones who cling most steadfastly to the arbitrary symbols we attach to it: guns, flag pins, crucifixes, and a figure from a Coca-Cola Christmas advertising poster…

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:25:55am

Sigh.

Not long after the election a friend of mine on Facebook left a post that said one of her IRL friends, a trans-woman, had been victim of a hate crime. Said friend was severely beaten.

Just found out that the victim didn’t make it.

I didn’t know the victim, and I know what you resist you become, but right now I’m fantasizing about hunting down the people who did this and making them pay in pain and blood!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:29:32am

Aarrrgh. The guy who sits next to me is having a deskside meeting with another worker and they are WHISPERING. They think by whispering they won’t disturb people nearby but fucking whispering is just about the most annoying sound imaginable.

Putting on my headset. Gah.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:34:26am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

Offer them pie. That’ll shut em up.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:37:28am

re: #287 Amory Blaine

Offer them pie. That’ll shut em up.

Whispering Pie Holes. Great band name.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:41:56am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:42:19am

Man Who Shot ex-NFL’er Actually Arrested After Being Released Earlier

HARVEY, La. — The man who fatally shot ex-NFL player Joe McKnight has been arrested and jailed on a charge of manslaughter.

Ronald Gasser, 54, was arrested late Monday, after initially being released last week without charges pending further investigation, jail records show.

This is a good thing, but still the racial double standard remains. Why was he released? And if the shooter was black and the victim white, would this have happened?

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Stanley Sea  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:46:30am

re: #290 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Man Who Shot ex-NFL’er Actually Arrested After Being Released Earlier

HARVEY, La. — The man who fatally shot ex-NFL player Joe McKnight has been arrested and jailed on a charge of manslaughter.

Ronald Gasser, 54, was arrested late Monday, after initially being released last week without charges pending further investigation, jail records show.

This is a good thing, but still the racial double standard remains. Why was he released? And if the shooter was black and the victim white, would this have happened?

What if the victim wasn’t well known?

We’d never hear about it.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:48:20am

re: #290 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Man Who Shot ex-NFL’er Actually Arrested After Being Released Earlier

HARVEY, La. — The man who fatally shot ex-NFL player Joe McKnight has been arrested and jailed on a charge of manslaughter.

Ronald Gasser, 54, was arrested late Monday, after initially being released last week without charges pending further investigation, jail records show.

This is a good thing, but still the racial double standard remains. Why was he released? And if the shooter was black and the victim white, would this have happened?

The more one looks at this case, the more you realize that race definitely played a role in the way the police handled the case. The shooter apparently had a history of violent road rage incidents, and was involved in a 2006 incident at this very same intersection. With that as a background, there’s absolutely no reason that the shooter should have ever been released from custody since he was a threat to the public (history of road rage incidents). That he’s been arrested and taken into custody doesn’t diminish the problem that police didn’t think to keep him in custody in the first place.

The manslaughter charge is based on LA law, which fits the situation. Also, given how the police handled the arrest, one has to wonder if all the evidence has been preserved in a way that makes sure that a prosecution can be successful. There’ll be a whole lot of CYA going on now, and the defense lawyers will certainly look at this too (that’s their job after all).

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:48:49am

Supposed to be in the 20s around here tonight. Texas cold weather advice:
1. Bring in all brass monkeys.
2. Cease all well-digging operations.
4. Avoid contact with sleeping bears (probably a good idea regardless of weather).

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:54:46am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Donald Trump has long criticized Air Force One’s age. Day before the election, he mentioned “those big old engines that spew the stuff.”

Asshole’s about to go plane-shopping, isn’t he?

I’m sure everyone who bitched about Obama using taxpayer money on AF1 will be in full-throated cry over it.
////////

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:55:30am

re: #294 makeitstop

Asshole’s about to go plane-shopping, isn’t he?

I’m sure everyone who bitched about Obama using taxpayer money on AF1 will be in full-throated cry over it.
////////

Just another distraction from something else he would rather we not find out about.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:56:38am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just another distraction from something else he would rather we not find out about.

Short selling Boeing stock?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 7:57:05am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:00:24am

We just found out that one of the victims of the Ghost Ship fire was a girl we had known.

Her parents had been our friends back before we were married. Her Mom and Mrs. FBW were roommates in a house on Santiago in SF. We lost track of them probably at least 15 years ago, but at one time, their son was our Older Boy’s closest friend, and our families spent many days together. We were close enough that when the Younger Boy was born, they babysat Older Boy, and we babysat their son when Jenny was born.

She was a student at Berkeley. When Mrs. FBW told me this morning, I didn’t quite believe it. Then I saw her picture - she had her Mom’s nose, and mouth.

Hard to know how to feel, exactly.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:01:25am

‘Member when ‘What fresh hell awaits’ was just a phrase and not a daily reality?

I ‘member!

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Jayleia  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:05:10am

re: #299 makeitstop

I’m pretty sure we’re long out of Hells and are well into working on layers of The Abyss

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danarchy  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:05:15am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a comment that appeared here long ago: people who do not understand the true meaning of something are the ones who cling most steadfastly to the arbitrary symbols we attach to it: guns, flag pins, crucifixes, and a figure from a Coca-Cola Christmas advertising poster…

Not to diminish your point, but the “Coke created the modern image of Santa” thing is a myth. That version of Santa had been pretty standard for decades before that Ad campaign.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:08:40am

re: #301 danarchy

Not to diminish your point, but the “Coke created the modern image of Santa” thing is a myth. That version of Santa had been pretty standard for decades before that Ad campaign.

So in Europe, today is the Feast of St Nicholas, where it is often common for children to receive a boot full of sweets, oranges, nuts and other small presents. Funny to see how he came to be swept into the vortex of a bigger holiday.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:10:38am

Chills…….

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:11:52am

re: #301 danarchy

Not to diminish your point, but the “Coke created the modern image of Santa” thing is a myth. That version of Santa had been pretty standard for decades before that Ad campaign.

The modern version is a creation of Thomas Nast, the same guy who gave us the elephant as the representation of the Republican party.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:12:08am

re: #294 makeitstop

Asshole’s about to go plane-shopping, isn’t he?

I’m sure everyone who bitched about Obama using taxpayer money on AF1 will be in full-throated cry over it.
////////

He’ll make the Air Force take the Concorde out of the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center and retrofit it for his use.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:15:34am

Read this thread full of people telling the Doughy Pantload how full of shit he is==>

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:17:00am

Trump seems so concerned about the AF1 contract, which is actually reasonable under the circumstances ($1.65 billion for the replacement planes), but doesn’t seem to care that it costs $10+ billion for an aircraft carrier, or over $1 trillion for a plane purchase (F-35) that wont be able to do its mission requirements for years to come, or $4 billion for a single destroyer (Zumwalt) that’s already experienced issues after going to sea for the first time.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:23:00am

re: #307 lawhawk

Trump seems so concerned about the AF1 contract, which is actually reasonable under the circumstances ($1.65 billion for the replacement planes), but doesn’t seem to care that it costs $10+ billion for an aircraft carrier, or over $1 trillion for a plane purchase (F-35) that wont be able to do its mission requirements for years to come, or $4 billion for a single destroyer (Zumwalt) that’s already experienced issues after going to sea for the first time.

Which adds to the theory that this is a way to short the Boeing stock he owns.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:32:12am

Good question, Mr. Lusztig.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:35:40am

re: #309 makeitstop

Flying around to thank states that voted for him sends a hell of a message to the ones that didn’t. Will our voices matter at all?

To the victors go the spoils…now people will think twice before voting against him again.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:36:26am

OT, but the fine Governor of my state has had a brilliant idea. He created the Office of Transformation. The stated goals of said office are to reduce excessive bureaucracy and increase savings. People are rightfully calling bullshit.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:39:12am

A Facebook friend of mine has started using the hashtag #PresidentNeglect.

I like it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:39:31am

re: #311 Arkansawyer

OT, but the fine Governor of my state has had a brilliant idea. He created the Office of Transformation. The stated goals of said office are to reduce excessive bureaucracy and increase savings. People are rightfully calling bullshit.

Department of Redundancy Department

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:39:51am
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Skip Intro  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:42:37am

re: #266 lawhawk

And the media will report whatever Trump says. He is the PEOTUS after all.

Once he becomes POTUS, all of Kellyanne’s wall of bullshit will also be reported as news.

Even in his darkest nightmares, George Orwell never envisioned a situation like this.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:42:56am

re: #311 Arkansawyer

OT, but the fine Governor of my state has had a brilliant idea. He created the Office of Transformation. The stated goals of said office are to reduce excessive bureaucracy and increase savings. People are rightfully calling bullshit.

That’s taking the Blue Ribbon Commission bullshit to a whole other level, right there. I’m sure the Office will come up with some great recommendations and the response will be “well, shucks, I mean, we don’t really want to cut this program or close this office, but the Office of Transformation has made this recommendation and there’s just really nothing we can do…”

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:43:22am

re: #308 Belafon

Which adds to the theory that this is a way to short the Boeing stock he owns.

Problem is that, like most such schemes, it’s only going to cause more headaches down the line. This isn’t the old days when he could have used the possibility of other companies snapping up the contract scare Boeing. The only other companies that are around anymore due to consolidation are Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, and they don’t build anything nearly the same size as the 747. There is also Airbus, but the last time the military tried to procure one of their jets, Boeing drug the Air Force before Congress and got their paid Congresscritters to screech about buying “foreign” jets until the AF quietly bought Boeing’s design instead.

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Skip Intro  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:43:50am

re: #289 lawhawk

It will work perfectly for Trump. Who’s going to call him on it? The GOP? The media?

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Skip Intro  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:44:44am

re: #290 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Man Who Shot ex-NFL’er Actually Arrested After Being Released Earlier

HARVEY, La. — The man who fatally shot ex-NFL player Joe McKnight has been arrested and jailed on a charge of manslaughter.

Ronald Gasser, 54, was arrested late Monday, after initially being released last week without charges pending further investigation, jail records show.

This is a good thing, but still the racial double standard remains. Why was he released? And if the shooter was black and the victim white, would this have happened?

Rhetorical question?

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:45:04am

re: #316 KGxvi

That’s taking the Blue Ribbon Commission bullshit to a whole other level, right there. I’m sure the Office will come up with some great recommendations and the response will be “well, shucks, I mean, we don’t really want to cut this program or close this office, but the Office of Transformation has made this recommendation and there’s just really nothing we can do…”

As the “Office” is likely to be stocked with his hand-picked lackies, of course it will be little more than a way of making the cuts and changes he wants seem like recommendations of “experts.” “I didn’t want to do it, but they said it’s the only way!”

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Arkansawyer  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:54:01am

re: #320 Targetpractice

As the “Office” is likely to be stocked with his hand-picked lackies, of course it will be little more than a way of making the cuts and changes he wants seem like recommendations of “experts.” “I didn’t want to do it, but they said it’s the only way!”

The woman tapped to head the office was an associate for Hutchinson Group, LLC. Officers listed for the company include Gov. Hutchinson. So, I think you hit the nail on the head.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:55:19am
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Lupin  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:56:59am

re: #315 Skip Intro

And the media will report whatever Trump says. He is the PEOTUS after all.

Once he becomes POTUS, all of Kellyanne’s wall of bullshit will also be reported as news.

Even in his darkest nightmares, George Orwell never envisioned a situation like this.

If there was such a thing as a “guardianship” for countries, the way there is for people suffering from dementia, the US would be eligible for such a thing, at this stage. We are becoming a danger to others as well as ourselves.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:57:59am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

To the victors go the spoils…now people will think twice before voting against him again.

Which only breeds resentment, anger and the drafting of someone else under a platform that ostensibly punishes the Branch Trumpidians in retribution.

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Lupin  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:58:38am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

To the victors go the spoils…now people will think twice before voting against him again.

I don’t think it makes any difference. the only voices he listens to are the ones in his head.

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:59:06am

re: #317 Targetpractice

Problem is that, like most such schemes, it’s only going to cause more headaches down the line. This isn’t the old days when he could have used the possibility of other companies snapping up the contract scare Boeing. The only other companies that are around anymore due to consolidation are Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, and they don’t build anything nearly the same size as the 747. There is also Airbus, but the last time the military tried to procure one of their jets, Boeing drug the Air Force before Congress and got their paid Congresscritters to screech about buying “foreign” jets until the AF quietly bought Boeing’s design instead.

Doesn’t matter. At least on person on FR thinks that Donald has saved us $4 B by canceling the contract already. No one called him on it so it must be true.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:59:07am
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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 8:59:46am

re: #324 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Which only breeds resentment, anger and the drafting of someone else under a platform that ostensibly punishes the Branch Trumpidians in retribution.

And being Democrats, we’ll punish them by passing Medicare for All and increasing the minimum wage and linking it to inflation.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:00:29am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

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If Trump really wants to save money he should just hop on Amtrak!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:05:02am
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Donkey With No Name  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:06:36am

re: #280 Stanley Sea

Why do Carrier jobs count but Boeing ones don’t?

Because Indiana is Real America, Seattle isn’t? //

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:08:12am

re: #331 Donkey With No Name

Because Indiana is Real America, Seattle isn’t? //

Because he could use a photo op with Carrier to make himself look good. He tried to do that with Ford but they told him to go fuck himself (actually using nicer words).

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:08:38am

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Hot conservatalker-on-conservatalker action

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Jenner7  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:10:10am

If he can plunge a stock with an irresponsible tweet, just think of the wars he can start.

Awesome.

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:10:22am

BREAKING NEWS

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:12:02am

re: #333 Myron Falwell (no relation)

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Hot conservatalker-on-conservatalker action

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As I said yesterday, it’s all about rooting for Team R, nothing more, nothing less.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:14:59am

re: #334 Jenner7

If he can plunge a stock with an irresponsible tweet, just think of the wars he can start.

Awesome.

I just found myself wondering if Twitter will survive the next four years. Trump is not going to stop tweeting, short of an act of Congress, and he utterly refuses to admit when he’s wrong. He simply deletes the evidence of his actions when they become inconvenient to him. So eventually he’s going to send out a tweet that’s going to cause a massive row, try to delete it permanently, and then we’ll watch as Twitter gets drugs into court either to produce the deleted tweets or explain why it’s shielding Comrade Combover.

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Franklin  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:15:40am

re: #280 Stanley Sea

Why do Carrier jobs count but Boeing ones don’t?

Because his VP is Governor of Indiana, not Washington state. And he has access to the IN state purse strings.

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Franklin  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:17:42am

re: #335 gocart mozart

BREAKING NEWS

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:17:43am

Here a story Trump may have been trying to hide with his Boeing tweet

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:20:06am

re: #337 Targetpractice

I just found myself wondering if Twitter will survive the next four years. Trump is not going to stop tweeting, short of an act of Congress, and he utterly refuses to admit when he’s wrong. He simply deletes the evidence of his actions when they become inconvenient to him. So eventually he’s going to send out a tweet that’s going to cause a massive row, try to delete it permanently, and then we’ll watch as Twitter gets drugs into court either to produce the deleted tweets or explain why it’s shielding Comrade Combover.

I assume that people are making immediate screenshots of everything he tweets…after all, once he becomes POTUS, they will fall under the Public Records and Freedom of Information Acts.

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Jenner7  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:20:24am
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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:20:50am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

Which is why who Trump picks for the Interior Department and Bureau of Indian Affairs may decide what happens and who profits (no doubt Native Americans will get screwed again).

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:21:43am

re: #342 Jenner7

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So either he’s shorting stock, he’s monumentally stupid, or he’s so petty that he’s prepared to risk getting his future administration drug into court by a major corporation.

Or all three, knowing him.

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:23:05am

Good point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:26:39am

re: #345 gocart mozart

how do we know if ivanka, uday or qusay didnt short boeing today? “thanks dad”

Sounds more like a short-sighted fit of pique rather than a contrived plan…but we will never know.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:27:07am

re: #345 gocart mozart

Good point.

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I call them Uday, Qusay and Evita.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:30:14am

re: #336 KGxvi

As I said yesterday, it’s all about rooting for Team R, nothing more, nothing less.

Remember too that Sykes is retiring from radio and TV at the end of the month. It’s very apparent that he’s setting himself up to be a “voice of reason.”

Excuse me a minute.
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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:32:03am

Russian fingers are in lots of places.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:32:21am

Some brain bleach from all the toxic Derp

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(alpuz)  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:32:32am

re: #348 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Remember too that Sykes is retiring from radio and TV at the end of the month. It’s very apparent that he’s setting himself up to be a “voice of reason.”

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Yeah, and he’s done his share of damage here in Wisconsin. Sykes is a snake.

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Varek Raith  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:36:23am

The Chesapeake Bay Bridge can go to hell.
/Stupid swaying ass bridge.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:36:58am

President Trump Said To Be Still Issuing Orders And Statements From Confinement In The Oval Office

ivanka says father still allowed to have twitter account because it distracts his fanbase and “keeps him from getting overexcited”

Pence, Ryan, and Mcconnell Assure National Priorities Of Outsourcing Labor And Destroying Medicare And Social Security Will Go On Despite President Being Ruled Mentally Incapable Of Performing His Duties

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:38:57am

re: #343 lawhawk

Which is why who Trump picks for the Interior Department and Bureau of Indian Affairs may decide what happens and who profits (no doubt Native Americans will get screwed again).

The First Nations have had hundreds of years experience in getting screwed over. I would be shocked if they weren’t preparing themselves for that scenario.

It could get really ugly. Only the old angry white male will approve.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:39:34am

It just gets harder and harder to even. Nobody can even.

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:40:00am

So this is what happened.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:41:48am

re: #356 The Vicious Babushka

It just gets harder and harder to even. Nobody can even.

I really have given up commenting, I just observe and remind myself that things will have to get a shitload of a lot worse before they can even begin to start getting any better.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:41:59am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:43:22am

re: #356 The Vicious Babushka

It just gets harder and harder to even. Nobody can even.

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The Aminityville Horror.

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Jayleia  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:44:12am

re: #356 The Vicious Babushka

I found a book for you, for just this sort of thing…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:44:19am

President Elect Trump Given Copy Of Defense Budget To Play With

said to have kept him busy for almost five minutes

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:48:21am

Heh.


It’s the Isiah Whitlock, Jr. Talking Money Head. Sheeeeeeeee-it!

Isiah Whitlock, Jr. Talking Money Head

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:49:29am

re: #363 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

President Elect Trump Given Copy Of Defense Budget To Play With

said to have kept him busy for almost five minutes

He tried making paper airplanes but his fingers were just too short and stumpy.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:50:11am

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really have given up commenting, I just observe and remind myself that things will have to get a shitload of a lot worse before they can even begin to start getting any better.

I don’t know how it can get any better without punishing the GOP rank-and-file. They will never learn otherwise.

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:52:42am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:53:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:55:27am

re: #366 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I don’t know how it can get any better without punishing the GOP rank-and-file. They will never learn otherwise.

Whatever winds up happening, it will be ugly and difficult to watch without wincing.

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:57:20am

Do people really expect the Japanese PM to apologize, thereby angering his conservative base that he relies on for support in Tokyo?

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:58:04am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 9:59:30am

re: #370 electrotek

Do people really expect the Japanese PM to apologize, thereby angering his conservative base that he relies on for support in Tokyo?

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Are these the same people who complain about Obama supposedly apologizing all the time?

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:01:41am

re: #372 Sir John Barron

Which people? I don’t believe Japanese conservatives complain about Obama “apologizing” all the time. *shrug

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:01:58am

re: #372 Sir John Barron

Are these the same people who complain about Obama supposedly apologizing all the time?

The ones who think he apologized at Hiroshima.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:02:31am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks told The Post last month that Trump had in June also sold his shares in Energy Transfer Partners, the majority stakeholder in the $3.7 billion Dakota Access pipeline project that has drawn protests from environmentalists and Native Americans.

The Department of the Army said Sunday it would not allow the oil pipeline to be drilled further near a Standing Rock Sioux reservation, but Trump has said he supported completing the pipeline. The company’s chief executive was a major campaign donor to Trump, but its stock had declined in value in the face of protests.

So Trump cashed out on ETP before the stock declined (and presumably will continue to decline). What a swell guy. //

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:05:03am

re: #373 electrotek

Which people? I don’t believe Japanese conservatives complain about Obama “apologizing” all the time. *shrug

I meant conservatives who complain that Obama apologizes for America.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:05:22am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

Here a story Trump may have been trying to hide with his Boeing tweet

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Shorter Trump.

What? Those savages still have land? We’ll steal that too.

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:05:26am

re: #377 Sir John Barron

Gotcha, just making sure lol

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:07:15am

Fuck the soulless husk that is Paul Ryan.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:09:14am

I’m sorry…I’m a bit bleary eyed at the moment, but did I just see Frank Fucking Luntz fact check Trump?

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Kragar  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:10:45am
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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:10:48am

re: #381 Mike Lamb

Yes.

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Varek Raith  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:10:51am

I’d rather have a full stomach since, you know, souls aren’t real.
/Flame suit

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:11:22am

re: #380 Citizen K

Fuck the soulless husk that is Paul Ryan.

Paul Ryan Says Free School Lunches Give Kids ‘An Empty Soul’

I remember that argument. In an ideal GOP world, kids go home at lunch to the stay-at-home mom, or eat the lunch that she lovingly packs every morning before sending them off…

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:11:30am

re: #384 Varek Raith

I’d rather have a full stomach since, you know, souls aren’t real.
/Flame suit

And if you’re peculiar, you have two. /

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:13:29am

re: #380 Citizen K

Fuck the soulless husk that is Paul Ryan.

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That “brown bag” story is bogus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:14:46am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:15:07am

re: #378 Romantic Heretic

Shorter Trump.

What? Those savages still have land? We’ll steal that too.

And they will be totally unprepared for the violence and bloodshed that will follow. Greedy plutocrats are like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:15:44am

re: #382 Kragar

Trump is priv citizen. $4 bill, Air Force One falsehood cratered Boeing stock. He “sold” shares in June. Shareholders can sue him 4 fraud.

People wanted a “businessman not a politician”. This is what we got…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:17:05am

trump in 2013:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:19:55am
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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:20:34am

Hey all! Damn it is depressing reading through threads these days.

Did anyone happen to see any of The Today Show this morning (NBC)?

Matt Lauer and Tamron Hall interviewed Derick Ion Almena the Oakland warehouse manager. It was very uncomfortable.

What got me was Matt Lauer really dogging the guy about his responsibility.

I wish Lauer and Company could have been as tough on one Republican presidential candidate and his talking heads. And when they veered off and not answer cut them off too.

Note: I am not condoning the landlord’s actions. Just the reporting imbalance in something that NBC reporters should have treated with the same amount of importance. In ways Trump is starting all kinds of fires too.

I’m Not Going to Answer: Oakland Warehouse Landlord Gets in Incredibly Tense Must-See Interview

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:21:26am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

This is modern day colonialism where powerful people (usually White) go around taking over the land/property of those less powerful (usually non-White) where only one side benefits. Disgusting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:23:54am

re: #380 Citizen K

Fuck the soulless husk that is Paul Ryan.

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Because demoralized hungry children are so damn eager to learn!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:24:45am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:26:40am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

That “brown bag” story is bogus

He told Eloise he didn’t want a free lunch. He wanted his own lunch, one in a brown-paper bag just like the other kids. He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid with a brown-paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand.”

“The left does not understand” that kids want to eat, whether it’s from a brown-paper bag or on a plate?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:28:19am

re: #393 ObserverArt

What got me was Matt Lauer really dogging the guy about his responsibility.

I wish Lauer and Company could have been as tough on one Republican presidential candidate and his talking heads. And when they veered off and not answer cut them off too.

That’s crazy talk. If Lauer and the media aren’t nice to Trump, Trump will just tweet more.

///

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:29:29am

re: #218 Anymouse

This evening and early morning congratulations are pouring in from family and friends for my appointment as the Chairman Pro-Tempore of my village board of trustees.

I pointed out to each that called or E-mailed that I really didn’t do much to deserve the post. It was mostly because I am willing to stick out an unpaid elected position and am willing to fight for villagers’ issues (small as those might be on the national scale of things).

Still, I can’t help but indulge in a bit of self-satisfaction at the idea the most liberal person in town is now in the village government’s second-most important position.

On that note, I feel somewhat ashamed that I should be self-satisfied in that achievement. I have neither done much to deserve a pat on the back nor advance a progressive cause in an insignificant village in the middle of nowhere amongst cattle and corn.

Someone important (or eccentric) will show up soon asking you to trek across the continent in order to throw an insignificant looking object into a volcano in order to save civilization.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:30:10am
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BeachDem  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:30:46am

Evan Hurst’s apt description of Kellyanne Conway and the upcoming propaganda arm of the Trump administration:

So hooray, Kellyanne Conway might get to do what her guidance counselor never imagined for her, by directing an online Twitter lynch mob. To be honest, it sounds like a perfect fit for her, because she really is a professional asshole.
wonkette.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:30:49am

re: #398 Sir John Barron

That’s crazy talk. If Lauer and the media aren’t nice to Trump, Trump will just tweet more.

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Exactly: that landlord is not a media entity with a rabid following.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:31:06am

re: #369 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whatever winds up happening, it will be ugly and difficult to watch without wincing.

Everything around us seems to be a powder keg… something is going to blow up disastrously. It’s only a matter of what will happen.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:31:16am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

That “brown bag” story is bogus

So we asked Anderson when she met this boy and heard his story. Joe Scialfa, communications director for the department provided us with this answer:

In the course of giving live testimony, Secretary Anderson misspoke. What she had intended to say was the following:

“Once I heard someone say, ‘what was important to him as a boy was that he didn’t want school lunch, he wanted a brown bag because the brown bag that he brought with his lunch in it meant that his mom cared about him.’”

Secretary Anderson was referring to a television interview which she had seen with Maurice Mazyck.

JFC

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:32:21am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exactly: that landlord is not a media entity with a rabid following.

That landlord is also not someone with his own show on Lauer’s network that’s a cash cow which helps pay Lauer his multimillion dollar salary.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:35:13am

re: #404 Sir John Barron

“Once I heard someone say, ‘what was important to him as a boy was that he didn’t want school lunch, he wanted a brown bag because the brown bag that he brought with his lunch in it meant that his mom cared about him.’”

The person who made up this story thinks poor mothers “don’t care” about their children because they have to be at work (they don’t get flexible hours) instead of at home lovingly packing brown bag lunches.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:35:31am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

That “brown bag” story is bogus

But the story doesn’t end there. Wonkette, a satiric blog, wondered if Anderson’s story was actually derived from a 2011 book titled “The Invisible Thread,” by Laura Schroff, which is about a busy executive and her relationship with an 11-year-old homeless panhandler named Maurice Mazyck. His mother was a drug addict, in jail, who had stolen things and cashed in food stamps to pay for drugs. At one point, Schroff offers to bring Mazyck lunch every day so he won’t go hungry. The exchange goes like this:

So Wonkette busted Ryan’s BS story?

Figures.

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BeachDem  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:36:23am

But he’s concerned that Palin’s recent erratic behavior might be the result of some type of serious health issues, reported Right Wing Watch.

“Sincerely, has she had a brain aneurysm?” Beck said Monday night during his weekly “Think Tank” television program. “Because I don’t know what has happened to her.”
rawstory.com
The only things more bizarre than Beck wondering about anyone else’s mental state is that his show is called “Think Tank.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:36:26am

re: #406 The Vicious Babushka

The person who made up this story thinks poor mothers “don’t care” about their children because they have to be at work (they don’t get flexible hours) instead of at home lovingly packing brown bag lunches.

Women should be stay-at-home moms. That is the core of GOP “family values”.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:37:17am

re: #393 ObserverArt

Great White night club fire
Great White’s Band Manager:

On May 10, 2006, State Prosecutor Randall White asked that Biechele be sentenced to ten years in prison, the maximum allowed under the plea bargain, citing the massive loss of life in the fire and the need to send a message.

Night Club Owners:

Following Biechele’s trial, the Station’s owners, Michael and Jeffrey Derderian, were scheduled to receive separate trials. However, on September 21, 2006, Superior Court Judge Francis J. Darigan announced that the brothers had changed their pleas from “not guilty” to “no contest,” thereby avoiding a trial.[28] Michael Derderian received 15 years in prison, with four to serve and 11 years suspended, plus three years’ probation—the same sentence as Biechele. Jeffrey Derderian received a 10-year suspended sentence, three years’ probation, and 500 hours of community service.

That would be a good start for Derick Ion Almena

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:39:29am

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:46:14am

re: #406 The Vicious Babushka

The person who made up this story thinks poor mothers “don’t care” about their children because they have to be at work (they don’t get flexible hours) instead of at home lovingly packing brown bag lunches.

My mom was a stay at home mom and we still had to make our own lunches, dinners, do the laundry, water the yard and clean the house because she was usually too zonked out on heavy psychotropic medications to do it herself. Yeah, I would have liked one of these mythical SAHMs. Instead I got a paranoid schizophrenic. These people annoy me.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:49:28am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:51:02am

OT, but just got done seeing Shin Godzilla (Godzilla Resurgence over there in the USA) and it was great! Nice to see Godzilla back in fine form in the latest release from Toho.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:51:18am

Ryan said there will be an early repeal vote next year, but after that, “clearly there will be a transition and a bridge so that no one is left out in the cold, so that no one is worse off. The purpose here is to bring relief to people who are suffering from Obamacare so that they can get something better.”

OH G-D 20 MILLION PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING FROM HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:53:15am
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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:53:21am

re: #413 jaunte

Some details on that number: The $173M is for planning. They’re talking about the planes costing near $3B in the NYT article mentioned here: #353. That article also mentions that Obama cancelled Marine One because of the high cost.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:53:39am

re: #389 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Unfortunately it’s unlikely any of that blood will be the plutocrats.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:54:30am

re: #416 jaunte

He’s hoping Trump’s wars with China and Iran will kill off most of the poor and middle class.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:55:00am

re: #396 Charles Johnson

Well, racists need to express their feelings about the Blacks and Browns and gays and Muslims without any pushback. They’re so oppressed here in this country, doncha know?!!

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:55:47am

re: #415 The Vicious Babushka

OH G-D 20 MILLION PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING FROM HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

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Rep. Ryan was misquoted, he actually said “no one who matters to us will be worse off.”

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allegro  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:56:23am

re: #419 Belafon

He’s hoping Trump’s wars with China and Iran will kill off most of the poor and middle class.

Then who is going to take out their trash and clean their toilets?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:57:19am

re: #421 Targetpractice

Rep. Ryan was misquoted, he actually said “no one who matters to us will be worse off.”

Who actually is “suffering” from Obamacare?

There may be some self employed people who have high premiums because the asshole governors of the states they live in did not approve the Medicaid expansion. But that is not because of the ACA.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:59:30am

Fucking Walnuts. Come on man, stand for something.

If you don’t start ‘talking about Trump,’ I’ll take that as tacit approval of everything he does.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 10:59:37am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

Insurance companies who can’t gouge insureds for policies that aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on?

Religious groups who can’t impose their religious beliefs on their employees when it comes to kinds of care they seek (and for which the employee pays for through their premiums and payroll deductions)?

You know - the only ones that count in the GOP universe /sarc not sarc.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:00:03am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

Well, there’s that poster from Idaho who appears to be hallucinating about his high insurance costs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:01:53am
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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:02:45am

re: #426 jaunte

Well, there’s that poster from Idaho who appears to be hallucinating about his high insurance costs.

There was a bar in Fort Worth that closed the other day blaming Obamacare. I call bullshit on, but Texas didn’t help in any way.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:03:09am

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s in the picture?

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:03:29am

Ohio on verge of recession. Guess GOP tax cuts didn’t have the intended effect, and have left the state in a precarious position.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:04:46am

re: #418 Romantic Heretic

Unfortunately it’s unlikely any of that blood will be the plutocrats.

Considering all the resentment and anger out there, I’m regrettably not sure on that. It could get really ugly in a way we can’t conceive.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:05:06am
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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:05:07am

re: #425 lawhawk

Insurance companies who can’t gouge insureds for policies that aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on?

Religious groups who can’t impose their religious beliefs on their employees when it comes to kinds of care they seek (and for which the employee pays for through their premiums and payroll deductions)?

You know - the only ones that count in the GOP universe /sarc not sarc.

Yeah, the people who can’t buy mini-meds or “catastrophic insurance” policies and then find out that that broken leg isn’t “catastrophic” enough to be covered. Or the ones who bought “cheap” plans thinking they had all the coverage they needed until they suffered a coronary and found out that things as simple (and expensive) as the bill for the guy who stood at the back of the operating theater to pad his wallet won’t be covered. Or the ones who thought they had awesome insurance because they hadn’t yet filed a claim that was bounced due to a “preexisting condition.” And don’t forget the “young invincibles” who are angry that they have to buy insurance when they’ve never had a cough or sneeze that they couldn’t cure with a bottle of Dayquil.

Those are the people that the GOP are fighting to help.

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Franklin  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:05:56am

re: #429 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

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Kragar  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:07:11am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:08:47am

re: #416 jaunte

Correction from @SpeakerRyan’s office: comments re “no one worse off” just apply to transition period, not eventual replacement plan.
— Sarah Kliff

This actually makes less sense.

In the transition, after the repeal, you’re obviously leaving some people, many millions in fact, without health insurance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:09:02am

re: #430 lawhawk

Ohio on verge of recession. Guess GOP tax cuts didn’t have the intended effect, and have left the state in a precarious position.

No, Obamacare and government safety and environmental regulations wrecked the economy.

Just ask Steve Sladki…

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:09:28am

That does challenge the notion that Clinton wasn’t popular. Still doesn’t overcome fact that she didn’t get enough votes in enough states to get to 270+.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:10:14am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

Who actually is “suffering” from Obamacare?

There may be some self employed people who have high premiums because the asshole governors of the states they live in did not approve the Medicaid expansion. But that is not because of the ACA.

Ryan is suffering because other people now have health insurance.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:43:56am

re: #431 Myron Falwell (no relation)

We have seen it before, In France.

Tale Of Two Cities: Mini Guillotine Lady!

And Russia.

Odessa Steps (Battleship Potemkin)


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