Donald Trump Tweets Another Falsehood, Causes Boeing’s Stock to Plunge

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Shortly after a story appeared this morning in the Chicago Tribune about the CEO of Boeing expressing misgivings about Donald Trump’s trade policy, Donald Trump fired up his Android phone while atop his solid gold toilet throne in his gold- and marble-encrusted penthouse and called to cancel Boeing’s contract to build the new Air Force One planes:

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Since this is Donald Trump we’re talking about, the president-elect of the United States, Boeing’s stock price immediately plunged, costing the company as much as $1 billion.

And of course, no Donald Trump tweet is complete without a blatant, in-your-face lie, and it turns out that the projected cost of the new Air Force One planes (there are two of them) is not “more than $4 billion.”

The Air Force said previously that it had earmarked $1.65 billion for two new presidential aircraft, which will be four-engine Boeing 747-8s.

That’s actually about $825 million per aircraft. And remember, these aren’t ordinary planes — they’re intended to protect the president on his trips, remain as secure and impervious to hacking as possible, and continue functioning even in the case of nuclear war.

But we can’t expect Donald Trump to think about things like that when his ego is wounded.

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:07:50am

This is our future, where our president can possibly kill companies with a tweet.

What the fuck.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:10:38am

For the next 4 years, we’re going to be left wondering if every action by Trump is drive by:

A) Stupidity
B) Profit motive
C) Ego
D) All of the above

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:10:42am

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Kragar  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:11:30am

Meanwhile…

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Jenner7  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:11:46am
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We are stupid.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:11:47am
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Dangerous, thin-skinned grifter.

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Jack Burton  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:13:47am

re: #5 Jenner7

The media, not doing it’s job yet again… Until way after the fact, as a footnote, when no one is listening or cares anymore.

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:14:31am

re: #4 Kragar

Meanwhile…

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:14:46am

re: #5 Jenner7

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We are stupid.

It’s why I said the day it was announced that it was purely about optics. The media didn’t lead with “This deal is rancid shit on a shingle,” but instead “Trump just saved thousands of jobs with a single deal! And he’s not even president yet!” It’s what got him elected, bullshitting millions of our fellow Americans into buying the initial story and then scaring the media into mumbling the details later. By the time Carrier gets around to firing that remaining 800 jobs, the country will have moved on and nobody will give a shit that Trump didn’t save anything but his stock portfolio.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:15:27am

Crony capitalism thrives on this. Kleptocracies thrive on this.

“This” being elected leaders putting their personal profit/gain ahead of the nation. It’s about picking winners/losers based on a whim, or in the case of today’s Boeing tweets, because Trump apparently read something in the Chicago Tribune about Boeing, foreign trade, and that rankled Trump:

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Trump’s response is to attack Boeing in a way that causes its stock to gyrate. Given that we know very little about Trump family holdings (still no blind trust, and the family still has holdings we know nothing of), Trump can manipulate markets with a few words (or 140 characters).

This is extremely dangerous, and it’s the kind of thing some of us have been warning about for months. It’s one of the reasons we demanded to see tax returns (because we’d get some insight into Trump’s holdings).

Trump ignored all that - and his supporters don’t seem to care about any of this either. GOPers are likewise shrugging their shoulders and assenting to Trump’s conduct.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:16:07am

re: #4 Kragar

Meanwhile…

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There was a time when profiting off a public trust (as in public office) was frowned upon and if one were to do it, they made sure it was subtly done. But Trump doesn’t do subtle, so the word of the next four years is Klepotcracy

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:16:27am

re: #9 Targetpractice

It’s why I said the day it was announced that it was purely about optics. The media didn’t lead with “This deal is rancid shit on a shingle,” but instead “Trump just saved thousands of jobs with a single deal! And he’s not even president yet!” It’s what got him elected, bullshitting millions of our fellow Americans into buying the initial story and then scaring the media into mumbling the details later. By the time Carrier gets around to firing that remaining 800 jobs, the country will have moved on and nobody will give a shit that Trump didn’t save anything but his stock portfolio.

The media has been cowed into giving him all benefit of the doubt no matter what and never challenging him ever. How else do you get the NYT Public Editor claiming that the paper was too hard on Trump after spending months upon years hitting Clinton with hitjob after hitjob?

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while(1) worries++;  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:17:18am

re: #2 Targetpractice

For the next 4 years, we’re going to be left wondering if every action by Trump is drive by:

A) Stupidity
B) Profit motive
C) Ego
D) All of the above

Yes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:17:41am
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Jenner7  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:18:05am
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And it will go directly in his pockets. I mean, it’s fucking obvious.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:18:15am

re: #11 KGxvi

There was a time when profiting off a public trust (as in public office) was frowned upon and if one were to do it, they made sure it was subtly done. But Trump doesn’t do subtle, so the word of the next four years is Klepotcracy

Kleptocracy and Kakistocracy. It’s a very dangerous combination, and Trump’s going to mine it for all it’s worth.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:18:21am

In regards to Air Force One, Slate claims that Trump, amazingly, is not wrong, and the Pentagon has budgeted nearly $4bn through 2021 for two new planes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:19:24am

re: #5 Jenner7

Trump’s Carrier deal is wildly popular. Even 32% of Clinton voters see him more favorably now

We are stupid.

Yes, that’s what they were counting on. Trump promised to “play hardball” to keep jobs in the USA, and this deal makes him look like he is keeping that promise.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:20:23am

re: #17 Big Beautiful Door

In regards to Air Force One, Slate claims that Trump, amazingly, is not wrong, and the Pentagon has budgeted nearly $4bn through 2021 for two new planes.

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I suspect his tweet was still in retaliation for the OpEd. Like a Republican cares about this spending otherwise.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:20:37am

Trump wants to be That One Guy Who Owns Everything

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:21:58am

I’m honest to god ready to give up. All our institutions have kowtowed to Lord Trump at staggering record rates, after acting like Obama was the goddamn walking Anti-Christ of all ages for 8 years. All criticisms are like screaming into the ether. Nothing seems to puncture through at all, ever.

We are so goddamn fucked it’s nowhere near funny.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:23:18am

re: #15 Jenner7

This is the background. Softbank is considering a new $100 billion fund worldwide. Some of that might end up being invested in the US, but the meeting’s true aim was likely to get Trump to approve of a merger between Sprint and T-Mobile?

Son has no specific agenda for the meeting but wants to meet Trump as an investor in the U.S., including in wireless operator Sprint Corp., said the person, who asked not to be identified because the matter is private. The Japanese billionaire is in the process of raising a $100 billion investment fund and is interested in putting some of the money into the U.S., the person said.

Son, 59, made his fortune from investments in Japan and China, but has had a mixed record in the U.S. SoftBank bought control of Sprint in 2013 only to see it lose ground to rivals including T-Mobile US Inc. Son’s attempt to engineer a merger between the No. 3 and No. 4 wireless players was rebuffed by the Obama administration, but a new government may have a different take on communications policy.

The Trump transition team in New York didn’t respond to requests for comment Monday on whether a meeting had been scheduled. SoftBank wasn’t immediately able to comment.

Son said last week during a trip to India that he is close to tying up the $100 billion for a technology fund that SoftBank announced with the government of Saudi Arabia. SoftBank and Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund unveiled the new venture in October with the Japanese company saying it will invest $25 billion, while Saudi Arabia committed $45 billion. The two have been talking to other investors for the remaining $30 billion. When plans for the fund were first announced, Son said that he planned on being the biggest investor in technology over the next decade.

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Kragar  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:24:04am

re: #15 Jenner7

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:24:46am

re: #15 Jenner7

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And it will go directly in his pockets. I mean, it’s fucking obvious.

Probably means invested in Toyota, Subaru, Honda and secondary and tertiary parts suppliers. Nothing wrong with that—it does secure jobs—but I doubt it has anything to do with Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:25:11am

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

Trump wants to be That One Guy Who Owns Everything

I recall a similar satirical barb in a Rolling Stone ca 1989: “Donald Trump says if we loan him all our money, he will use it to buy all our stuff and then lease it back to us”.

Sounds like that plan is about to become reality.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:25:19am

re: #22 lawhawk

This is the background. Softbank is considering a new $100 billion fund worldwide. Some of that might end up being invested in the US, but the meeting’s true aim was likely to get Trump to approve of a merger between Sprint and T-Mobile?

Thanks. I stand corrected.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:26:08am

Think about this: We’re almost upon the 65th anniversary of the infamous “Checkers speech,” which I doubt most Americans younger than 50 even know about. 65 years since Nixon (who wasn’t even VP let alone in office for Watergate) had to drop a campaign tour to rush to LA and film a live speech where he denied allegations that he’d received funds from private parties to cover campaign expenses and never accepted any gifts from lobbyists. It was a serious enough issue that his place on the Republican ticket was actually viewed as in-doubt before the speech. And what motivated this was public memory of the Harding admin and the rampant corruption and flagrant cronyism that had handicapped that presidency.

65 years later, this nation basically just elected a man whose entire modus operandi is “Anything that makes me richer is legal,” who is set to use the White House to fatten his wallet and those of every single person in his inner circle. The nation saw a man who is more crooked than Nixon could hope to get away with being and said “Yeah, we want him in the White House.”

Jesus wept.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:27:28am

re: #27 Targetpractice

65 years later, this nation basically just elected a man whose entire modus operandi is “Anything that makes me richer is legal,” who is set to use the White House to fatten his wallet and those of every single person in his inner circle. The nation saw a man who is more crooked than Nixon could hope to get away with being and said “Yeah, we want him in the White House.”

Jesus wept.

Nixon was judged against the standard of fellow human beings.

Trump is judged against the standards of a media entity and reality show star.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:27:53am

re: #27 Targetpractice

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Jenner7  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:28:01am
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Sigh…

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:28:09am

re: #19 Belafon

I suspect his tweet was still in retaliation for the OpEd. Like a Republican cares about this spending otherwise.

Without a doubt Trump was retaliating; its what he does.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:28:45am

re: #22 lawhawk

but the meeting’s true aim was likely to get Trump to approve of a merger between Sprint and T-Mobile? to let Donald tweet something about creating more jobs.

Fxed

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:28:53am
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scottslemmons  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:29:10am

re: #27 Targetpractice

65 years later, this nation basically just elected a man whose entire modus operandi is “Anything that makes me richer is legal,” who is set to use the White House to fatten his wallet and those of every single person in his inner circle. The nation saw a man who is more crooked than Nixon could hope to get away with being and said “Yeah, we want him in the White House.”

Nihilism’s a hell of a drug.

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:29:12am

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

Without a doubt Trump was retaliating; its what he does.

Trump wears his vindictiveness on his sleeve like a fucking medal. And the country fucking absolutely adores him more and more because of it. Because we deify assholes and beg for their approval.

Seriously, fuck this country at this rate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:29:30am

re: #30 Jenner7

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Sigh…

If these are tech jobs, there won’t be enough Americans with the skills to fill them, so they’ll have to bring in H1Bs from Asia.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:29:59am

re: #30 Jenner7

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Sigh…

This is the next 4 years:

Media: “Trump just created more jobs!”

Dems: “Actually, he didn’t create a damned thing.”

Media: “Democrats question our Dear Leader’s success! How can any good and decent American support their dishonest campaign against him?”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:30:30am

Because a low level tech job requires more hard skills than POTUS.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:31:15am

re: #30 Jenner7

Sigh…

So $1M per job created. It would probably be better for the economy if he just gave the money to 50K people.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:31:27am

Huffpo, topical.

The 7 Surprising Early Signs Of Alzheimer’s Disease

#1: Stealing or Other Law-Breaking Activity
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unproven innocence  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:31:59am

re: #4 Kragar

Meanwhile…

“Trump Tower is advertising Secret Service protection as a hot new amenity”

X-rays and cavity searches are things my dentist usually charges extra for. /

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:32:06am

For years, my dad told me “Nixon’s only crime was he got caught.” And I used to think of it as a joke about how all politicians are crooked fucks and the only ones who get held accountable are the ones who do it where the public can see.

Now I realize the joke was that Nixon only got impeached because Republicans could no longer deny the truth about what he was doing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:33:25am

re: #42 Targetpractice

For years, my dad told me “Nixon’s only crime was he got caught.” And I used to think of it as a joke about how all politicians are crooked fucks and the only ones who get held accountable are the ones who do it where the public can see.

Now I realize the joke was that Nixon only got impeached because Republicans could no longer deny the truth about what he was doing.

Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:34:06am

re: #30 Jenner7

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Sigh…

Stenography back in full swing.

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BlueGrl21  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:34:14am

Let Trump try to take on Exxon, BP, Chevron, Schlumberger, Halliburton. Goldman-Sachs, Citigroup, BOA, JP Morgan, AIG. Let him go after Google and Amazon and Apple. He has no leverage over any of them. Boeing, he has leverage because of government contracts, same as Carrier. But the REALLY massive companies? He’s like a toadie.

He will eventually slip up and go after one of them…his ego will get the best of him. He’ll go after one of the big guns and i will enjoy Donald learning the limit of his actual power.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:34:26am

What happened during the last campaign was exactly like Watergate, if the burglars who broke into the DNC at the Watergate were Russian agents.

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:34:28am

re: #27 Targetpractice

Think about this: We’re almost upon the 65th anniversary of the infamous “Checkers speech,” which I doubt most Americans younger than 50 even know about. 65 years since Nixon (who wasn’t even VP let alone in office for Watergate) had to drop a campaign tour to rush to LA and film a live speech where he denied allegations that he’d received funds from private parties to cover campaign expenses and never accepted any gifts from lobbyists. It was a serious enough issue that his place on the Republican ticket was actually viewed as in-doubt before the speech. And what motivated this was public memory of the Harding admin and the rampant corruption and flagrant cronyism that had handicapped that presidency.

65 years later, this nation basically just elected a man whose entire modus operandi is “Anything that makes me richer is legal,” who is set to use the White House to fatten his wallet and those of every single person in his inner circle. The nation saw a man who is more crooked than Nixon could hope to get away with being and said “Yeah, we want him in the White House.”

Jesus wept.

‘Republican cloth coat’. Words from history.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:35:02am

re: #30 Jenner7

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Four years of this crap.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:35:16am

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.

True, but impeachment was a foregone conclusion, hence his resignation. Had he tried to fight the charges, he would have been impeached and likely would have been convicted unless his party actually took the step of voting in lockstep to refuse to convict him. If that happened, he would have taken the entire GOP down with him. It’s why Ford rushed to pardon his old boss, because he knew within 4 years most people would have forgotten why they were so pissed in the first place.

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:35:59am

Tommy Robinson fanboys really get upset if you refer to them by their correct term:

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If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck? Chances are, it’s a duck.

Deal with it you fascist prick.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:37:23am
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*cough* bullshit *cough*

Companies would still find ways to invest in the US because it’s a safe proposition. But those investments require skilled workforce, and that includes some of the very people that Trump attacks - immigrants, particularly those who aren’t coming from Europe (and aren’t white).

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:39:30am

re: #51 lawhawk

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*cough* bullshit *cough*

Companies would still find ways to invest in the US because it’s a safe proposition. But those investments require skilled workforce, and that includes some of the very people that Trump attacks - immigrants, particularly those who aren’t coming from Europe (and aren’t white).

Serinity now insanity later

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Kragar  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:40:50am

re: #51 lawhawk

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:42:09am

re: #45 BlueGrl21

Let Trump try to take on Exxon, BP, Chevron, Schlumberger, Halliburton. Goldman-Sachs, Citigroup, BOA, JP Morgan, AIG. Let him go after Google and Amazon and Apple. He has no leverage over any of them. Boeing, he has leverage because of government contracts, same as Carrier. But the REALLY massive companies? He’s like a toadie.

He will eventually slip up and go after one of them…his ego will get the best of him. He’ll go after one of the big guns and i will enjoy Donald learning the limit of his actual power.

Hell, even one of the companies that have government contracts will eventually show him the limits of his power. Remember, the DOD tried to contract with Airbus for something (possibly AF1), and were promptly dragged to Congress by Boeing to explain why they were refusing to buy American.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:42:54am

re: #51 lawhawk

*cough* bullshit *cough*

Companies would still find ways to invest in the US because it’s a safe proposition. But those investments require skilled workforce, and that includes some of the very people that Trump attacks - immigrants, particularly those who aren’t coming from Europe (and aren’t white).

This is in the same thinking that says that businesses don’t hire people because their taxes are high.

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Kragar  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:44:29am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:45:33am

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This is exactly who we have running our country for the next four years: a spoiled brat with way too much power over our lives. Twilight Zone as prophecy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:50:22am
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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:50:49am

re: #57 Patricia Kayden

This is exactly who we have running our country for the next four years: a spoiled brat with way too much power over our lives. Twilight Zone as prophecy.

We’re gonna need another update to The Monsters are Due on Maple Street soon, aren’t we?

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bratwurst  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:54:02am

Fuck this guy.

Fuck this idea.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:54:24am

re: #56 Kragar

He bought a used plane. And not a vintage one, just a used plane. (I’d cut him some slack if he’d bought a Grumman Goose or something cool like that). But this paragraph just made my head hurt:

Aviation experts say Trump’s plane is more luxurious, but Air Force One is a technology marvel, with an anti-missile system, scramblers, massive communications systems and back-up systems. So the two aircraft are not really comparable. But based on the Trump-gold standard for private jets, it’s no wonder he’s demanding a cost cut from Boeing.

Trump’s got a nice TV and some leather seats, so obviously he knows what he’s talking about…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:57:37am

re: #61 KGxvi

He bought a used plane. And not a vintage one, just a used plane. (I’d cut him some slack if he’d bought a Grumman Goose or something cool like that). But this paragraph just made my head hurt:

Trump’s got a nice TV and some leather seats, so obviously he knows what he’s talking about…

His flying gold-painted turd probably doesn’t even have wi-fi.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:58:05am

re: #61 KGxvi

He bought a used plane. And not a vintage one, just a used plane. (I’d cut him some slack if he’d bought a Grumman Goose or something cool like that). But this paragraph just made my head hurt:

Trump’s got a nice TV and some leather seats, so obviously he knows what he’s talking about…

We are entering unfathomable levels of derp over the next four years.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:58:43am

re: #61 KGxvi

He bought a used plane. And not a vintage one, just a used plane. (I’d cut him some slack if he’d bought a Grumman Goose or something cool like that). But this paragraph just made my head hurt:

Trump’s got a nice TV and some leather seats, so obviously he knows what he’s talking about…

So, obviously, Trump will appoint himself to head the NTSB.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:59:03am

re: #60 bratwurst

Fuck this guy.

Fuck this idea.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:59:18am

Jared is a little fascist. Who knew?

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:59:19am

re: #54 KGxvi

Hell, even one of the companies that have government contracts will eventually show him the limits of his power. Remember, the DOD tried to contract with Airbus for something (possibly AF1), and were promptly dragged to Congress by Boeing to explain why they were refusing to buy American.

Ah yes, the KC-X program. The AF needed new tankers to replace the aging KC-135 fleet, so Boeing convinced them to lease new 767-based tankers. Congress got wind that the new aircraft would be leased and (rightly) complained that it made no sense to lease vital aircraft, so the AF decided to buy 80 aircraft outright and lease another 20. Only to cancel the whole thing when they got wind that Boeing had bought off one of their procurement officers involved in the program in order to jack up the bill.

The AF is still in need of a tanker, so they open the KC-X program and accept bids from Boeing and EADS. Boeing just offers the “KC-767” design they were wanting to lease to the AF, while EADS offers the “KC-45” that’s based on the A330. The Airbus design is found to be better (carried more fuel/cargo), cheaper (could afford more for same price), and would create jobs in the US (Northrop Grumman as subcontractor). The AF ran the numbers and decided that the EADS design was the winner and moved to start procurement.

Boeing immediately filed in federal court against the DoD and lobbied Congress to get the program “reopened” on the grounds that the AF should “buy American” rather than taint the Armed Forces with a “foreign” aircraft. Boeing’s contest of the results was upheld, the program was “reopened,” and (wait for it) they “won” the contract with a slightly better design than their initial offering.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:59:29am

re: #37 Targetpractice

This is the next 4 years:

Media: “Trump just created more jobs!”

Dems: “Actually, he didn’t create a damned thing.”

Media: “Democrats question our Dear Leader’s success! How can any good and decent American support their dishonest campaign against him?”

Because enough of us are stupid enough to allow such bullshit to perpetuate.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:59:29am

re: #56 Kragar

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2016 • 11:59:45am

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:02:29pm

re: #56 Kragar

As Trump pushes back on Boeing, consider this: His private jet cost a fraction of Air Force One

what the effing effity ef? consider that my uncle’s pickup with a gun rack and shotgun costs a fraction of an Abrahms tank!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:02:54pm

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

Jared is a little fascist. Who knew?

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Free Speech-Protests-First Amendment. How do they work?

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b.d.  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:04:04pm

re: #56 Kragar

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As Trump pushes back on Boeing, consider this: His private jet cost a fraction of Air Force One

Consider this, Breitbart News costs a fraction to run than NBC News.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:04:25pm

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

Education survey finds that students in Singapore, Japan, Estonia, Taiwan and Finland are world’s top performers

And while we’re at it, let’s wish Finland a happy Independence Day. Next year, they will (hopefully) be able to celebrate 100 years of independence from Russia.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:05:23pm

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

Jared is a little fascist. Who knew?

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Hey Jared, I’ve a word for you: COINTELPRO.

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unproven innocence  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:06:13pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

Why u helping him?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:08:23pm

re: #73 b.d.

Consider this, Breitbart News costs a fraction to run than NBC News.

And a degree from Trump University cost only a fraction of a degree from Harvard: $250K vs a mere $39K for the “Gold Elite Option”.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:16:46pm

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And a degree from Trump University cost only a fraction of a degree from Harvard: $250K vs a mere $39K for the “Gold Elite Option”.

After Trump won and decided no experience was necessary for HUD, if anyone ever demands someone needs experience for a job… /half sarc

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Jenner7  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:21:51pm

What world am I living in? McCain downplays AF1 security calling it “bells and whistles” and CNBC compares AF1 to Trump’s 747.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:22:47pm

re: #79 Jenner7

What world am I living in? McCain downplays AF1 security calling it “bells and whistles” and CNBC compares AF1 to Trump’s 747.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

The same one that existed on Nov 7th.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:27:08pm

re: #79 Jenner7

What world am I living in? McCain downplays AF1 security calling it “bells and whistles” and CNBC compares AF1 to Trump’s 747.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

Remember that meme that wingnuts spammed for 8 years “AF1 flies over Texas”? I ‘member.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:27:30pm

re: #79 Jenner7

What world am I living in? McCain downplays AF1 security calling it “bells and whistles” and CNBC compares AF1 to Trump’s 747.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

Anti-missile systems and air-refueling capability are “bells and whistles.” Get rid of that junk to make room for the gold leaf and marble!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:29:26pm

re: #80 Belafon

What world am I living in? McCain downplays AF1 security calling it “bells and whistles” and CNBC compares AF1 to Trump’s 747.

The same one that existed on Nov 7th.

I disagree…we are in the Alternate Media Reality and the Dawn of the Great American Idiocracy.

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:29:31pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

Anti-missile systems and air-refueling capability are “bells and whistles.” Get rid of that junk to make room for the gold leaf and marble!

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It takes 800 pounds of paint to cover a 747. Imagine what that would be in gold leaf.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:32:15pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Remember that meme that wingnuts spammed for 8 years “AF1 flies over Texas”? I ‘member.

What meme was that?

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:32:24pm

re: #79 Jenner7

What world am I living in? McCain downplays AF1 security calling it “bells and whistles” and CNBC compares AF1 to Trump’s 747.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

Trump doesn’t operate a 747. It’s a 757.

That means that it lacks the range (non mid-air refueled) of a 747-400. In fact, it has roughly half the range, a fraction of the carrying capacity, and that doesn’t get into the special outfitting done for AF1.

This is apples to oranges. And Trump’s got people buying his baffling BS again.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:32:41pm

The guy who said he was gonna spend all this money to rebuild the Armed Forces, gonna make America “win again,” is now bitching that the military is spending too much money on the aircraft that it uses to protect the most important man in the country.

Meanwhile, the F-35 program is years behind schedule and billions overbudget, with each aircraft now costing enough to build a fleet of AF1s at the quoted price.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:32:56pm

re: #85 Sir John Barron

What meme was that?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:33:59pm

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:34:03pm
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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:35:03pm

re: #86 lawhawk

Trump doesn’t operate a 747. It’s a 757.

That means that it lacks the range (non mid-air refueled) of a 747-400. In fact, it has roughly half the range, a fraction of the carrying capacity, and that doesn’t get into the special outfitting done for AF1.

This is apples to oranges. And Trump’s got people buying his baffling BS again.

What’s so baffling and depressing just how absolutely little effort he has to put into it to get people to swallow his BS, and how prohibitive the amount of effort necessary to rebut him is.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:39:05pm

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:39:20pm

Hey NBC, let’s say some terrorist decided to just park himself on “Trump Force 1“‘s flight path and then fire a Stinger at it as it passes overhead. What means does it possess to protect Trump’s fat ass?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:39:34pm

2016 continues to suck more than any other year.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:40:05pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

2016 continues to suck more than any other year.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:40:24pm

re: #60 bratwurst

Brock is a good guy. This also looks good:

And Brock said that Media Matters will need to retrain its focus from monitoring Fox News and conservative talk radio to combating a scourge of fake news and conspiracy theories that have percolated online.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:42:20pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:42:41pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Any detail on how he passed?

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Franklin  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:42:52pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

2016 continues to suck more than any other year.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:44:29pm

re: #103 Dave In Austin

Any detail on how he passed?

“Found dead in a park” I’m guessing not natural causes.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:44:46pm

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Franklin  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:45:13pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Too young.

Just found this nugget on Salaam I never knew about

Youngest player in NFL history to rush for 1000 yards - 21 years, 77 days old

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:46:31pm

re: #93 Kragar

Kragar @Kragar_LGF
As Trump continues, remember rednecks in pickup trucks cost a fraction of the DOD defense budget

I do hope you give me credit for that line…

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:47:59pm

re: #105 The Vicious Babushka

“Found dead in a park” I’m guessing not natural causes.

If it was suicide I would suspect CTE….

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 12:57:42pm

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Franklin  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:00:51pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Ha! Look at this guy:

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Jenner7  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:01:12pm

Obama is doing his last national security speech…

And I want to cry.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:03:20pm

re: #120 Franklin

Ha! Look at this guy:

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Not the Trumpkins best representative, this one.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:03:50pm

re: #120 Franklin

Ha! Look at this guy:

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Not doing the Trump voter stereotype any favors, this guy.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:06:08pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:07:38pm

re: #120 Franklin

Ha! Look at this guy:

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What’s visible in the night sky this month? Mars and Neptune above the crescent moon, plus a New Year’s Eve comet!

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:15:35pm

“You’re off the island without ever having been on it.”

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:16:30pm

re: #60 bratwurst

Fuck this guy.

Fuck this idea.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:16:50pm

Well except for that little attack that was carried out on 11/8/2016

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:18:17pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:21:02pm

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Well except for that little attack that was carried out on 11/8/2016

I like that he’s said this. It’s something for us to hang around Trump’s neck if an attack does occur. It’s time we define reality: Obama kept us safe (no, he didn’t do it alone, but he didn’t blow off information given to him). If an attack occurs under Trump, he must pay for it, not given support.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:22:31pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

Honda-Mrkos-Paduschakova sounds cool. Hard to spell, though

But it would make for one hell of a Scrabble score!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:22:31pm

re: #135 Belafon

I like that he’s said this. It’s something for us to hang around Trump’s neck if an attack does occur. It’s time we define reality: Obama kept us safe (no, he didn’t do it alone, but he didn’t blow off information given to him). If an attack occurs under Trump, he must pay for it, not given support.

Trump IS THE ATTACK.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:22:32pm

Finished 1st season of Utopia. Great story, stunning visuals. Violent as fuck though.

Utopia | Channel 4

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:23:30pm

This is a refreshing thread with a refreshing topic about a refreshing president elect that is just like a normal guy that likes to speak like the common people. How refreshing. Facts like actual costs are not important. A lot of times regular folk talk about stuff they do not know all the facts about, and that is refreshing!

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:23:34pm

We’re #50! We’re #50! Or you could say we lead the nation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:23:43pm

If a terrorist attack happens while Trump is President I guarantee you it will be blamed on the “security and policy failures of the previous administration” before the smoke clears.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:24:22pm

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Well except for that little attack that was carried out on 11/8/2016

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:25:26pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

If a terrorist attack happens while Trump is President I guarantee you it will be blamed on the “security and policy failures of the previous administration” before the smoke clears.

Of course it will. Just as 9/11 was blamed upon the Cole bombing and Clinton’s failure to immediately “declare war” upon Al-Q.

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Among the principles the GOP plans to follow are that states should have more control over health care issues and “there ought to be more patients and doctors who are in control.”

Other ideas: “There ought to be a patient-centered choice involved in this. In other words, more competition that gives people in this country more choices.”

Schumer scoffed at all this.

“We’re certainly not going to be part of this idea of repeal and put nothing in its place,” he said.

Some Republicans have said that once Obamacare is repealed, there could be a transition period to a new system. Repealing the current system, they argue, would pressure Democrats into finding alternatives.

Me to GOP: Fuck Off.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:29:51pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Me to GOP: Fuck Off.

So the GOP’s plan is basically to repeal the ACA without a plan, expecting the resulting chaos will force Dems to do the hard work of getting them out of the disaster they’ve wrought.

Or, for those keeping score at home, a typical Republican plan.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:30:09pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Me to GOP: Fuck Off.

Yeah, the Democrats have the obligation to find alternatives.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:30:21pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Me to GOP: Fuck Off.

Really fuck this. They’re the ones who can’t find an alternative.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:30:47pm

re: #70 Barefoot Grin

Fucking Canada, man. When did they get so smart?

I’ll take that downding (not much choice, right?). Sometimes sarcasm backfires.

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Interesting Times  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:31:01pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:31:38pm

re: #135 Belafon

I like that he’s said this. It’s something for us to hang around Trump’s neck if an attack does occur. It’s time we define reality: Obama kept us safe (no, he didn’t do it alone, but he didn’t blow off information given to him). If an attack occurs under Trump, he must pay for it, not given support.

Trump, the GOP and the 46% minority who voted for them are all playing a game of Russian roulette. It’s not if someone is going to strike us, but when, and to what degree.

And honestly, there will be no unity, nor should there be. Blood will be on the hands of every single Republican. When they insist otherwise, shout them down.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:31:41pm

And if the Dem alternative failed, the Dems will get blamed unlike ivdunno the jackass partyvthst repealed without a plan.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:32:37pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

So the GOP’s plan is basically to repeal the ACA without a plan, expecting the resulting chaos will force Dems to do the hard work of getting them out of the disaster they’ve wrought.

Or, for those keeping score at home, a typical Republican plan.

Oh, I forgot that the GOP will make a lot of noise about how the bill is “bipartisan” so when it actually makes things even worse, they can say “Well, Democrats supported it too!” and use that to blackmail the DNC into helping them “fix” it.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:33:14pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll read the article, but Shumer and the others need to say “We’re going to protect the American people as much as we can, but screwing things up is all on you, Republicans.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:34:25pm

re: #153 Belafon

I’ll read the article, but Shumer and the others need to say “We’re going to protect the American people as much as we can, but screwing things up is all on you, Republicans.”

Democrats had a quick response: “Bring it on,” said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who will become the Senate Democratic leader next year. Republicans have not been able to agree on exactly how to replace the current system.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:35:47pm

They’ve had like six years to think of an alternative. Fact is Republicans don’t care about people going uninsured.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:35:51pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s good. When even Schumer’s doing the opposition thing…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:36:30pm

re: #153 Belafon

I’ll read the article, but Shumer and the others need to say “We’re going to protect the American people as much as we can, but screwing things up is all on you, Republicans.”

And make it a mission to enact single-payer as due punishment when this blows up. Because fuck the GOP.

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:36:55pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

If a terrorist attack happens while Trump is President I guarantee you it will be blamed on the “security and policy failures of the previous administration” before the smoke clears.

Unless it’s a terrorist attack modeled along the lines of Anders Breivik or Timothy McVeigh. Trump and his minions can’t get themselves out of that one if a terrorist attack happens by one of their fellow travelers.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:38:02pm

re: #159 electrotek

Unless it’s a terrorist attack modeled along the lines of Anders Breivik or Timothy McVeigh. Trump and his minions can’t get themselves out of that one if a terrorist attack happens by one of their fellow travelers.

Sure they can.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:38:40pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

They’ve had like six years to think of an alternative. Fact is Republicans don’t care about people going uninsured.

Hence why “some Republicans” are seriously trying to suggest that when they repeal the ACA, Dems will “feel pressured” to think up alternatives. They had no good ideas, they know their ideas are utterly craptastic, but so they’re now forced to rely upon the DNC to get them out of their own suicide pact.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:40:05pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:43:15pm

2010: “REPEAL AND REPLACE!”

2011: “REPEAL and replace!”

2012: “REPEAL and we’ll think up a replacement after.”

2013-2016: “REPEAL!”

2017: “REPEAL and the DNC will figure out what we’re going to replace it with.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:43:22pm

OT: Yeah. Not a puppy.

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:47:37pm

re: #160 Timothy Watson

You’re right, they’ll just say it’s a false-flag or done by liberal plants to make them look bad. Frank Gaffney did use the similar logic when questioned why Breivik cited him in his manifesto a few years back.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:49:01pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

Hence why “some Republicans” are seriously trying to suggest that when they repeal the ACA, Dems will “feel pressured” to think up alternatives. They had no good ideas, they know their ideas are utterly craptastic, but so they’re now forced to rely upon the DNC to get them out of their own suicide pact.

“Heads we win, tails you lose”

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Skip Intro  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:50:18pm

Architects Want To Hide Trump Tower Logo With A Bunch Of Flying Gold Pigs

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:51:25pm

re: #162 lawhawk

Me: This is the vaporware/malware I’ve been writing about for years. The GOP never had a plan beyond repeal. This is yet more proof.

I would laugh at the sight of a repeal bill collapsing because they can’t unify beyond the “repeal” portion… and the Democrats won’t throw them a life preserver by bailing them out with the “replace” (hell, the Democrats should unanimously push single-payer just for trolling purposes).

The reaction would be predictable… blame the Democrats while continuing to effectively do nothing. The GOP would be more comfortable doing that than anything of consequence.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:51:37pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:52:42pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

2010: “REPEAL AND REPLACE!”

2011: “REPEAL and replace!”

2012: “REPEAL and we’ll think up a replacement after.”

2013-2016: “REPEAL!”

2017: “REPEAL and the DNC will figure out what we’re going to replace it with.”

Ryan:
All the people suffering from Obamacare!!!!

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:55:39pm

re: #168 Myron Falwell (no relation)

the Democrats should unanimously push single-payer

Forget trolling. Straight up suggest it.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:56:43pm
On Tuesday morning, Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand gave a press conference that was supposed to be about last Thursday afternoon’s killing of former NFL player Joe McKnight after a reported road-rage incident, and the subsequent arrest of Ronald Gasser on manslaughter charges Monday night.

But things quickly veered off course when Normand opened his address to the media with a lengthy, profanity-filled, condemnation of anyone who questioned his department’s initial decision to release Gasser from custody last Friday, despite the fact that Gasser had already admitted to shooting and killing McKnight.

Normand was particularly incensed that people were saying the decision was racially motivated due to the fact that Gasser is white and McKnight is black.

[…]

A reporter later asked Normand was asked whether he could sympathize with African Americans who were scared about being murdered in cold blood in broad daylight like McKnight was, and frustrated by the lack of justice often doled out in such cases.

“Do you understand where that fear comes from?” the reporter asked.

Normand answered by citing black-on-black murder statistics. “Your fear, what you’re trying to articulate right now, is misdirected,” he said. (“But what about black-on-black crime?” is a common refrain from people who deny the existence of institutional racism, particularly in discussions over police brutality.)

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:58:44pm

re: #120 Franklin

He lost his egg…. Beard, cowboy hat, Texas.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:58:49pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

FROG Tips @FrogTips

IF FROG BEGINS TO EMIT A 2600 HZ TONE, DEPOSIT FROG IN NEAREST AT&T PHONE BOOTH.
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Oh no… I have a tone emitting frog and can’t find a phone booth!

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:58:50pm

re: #172 Timothy Watson

thinkprogress.org

By this logic, no white person should every be worried about minorities. What about white-on-white crime?

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 1:58:50pm

re: #171 Belafon

Forget trolling. Straight up suggest it.

First, insist that they will filibuster any repeal bill that does not include the proposed replacement on the grounds that Americans cannot afford to sit and wait for Congress to make up its mind.

Second, turn the debate over replacement into a choice between whatever Republicans (and the few Blue Dogs) propose and single-payer. No half-assed measures, no “bipartisan” agreements, just single-payer or further fleecing of Americans by health insurers.

Third, watch as Republicans are reduced to sneaky tactics like reconciliation to push through a repeal measure then put the entire blame upon them.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:00:28pm

re: #164 GlutenFreeJesus

Here Kitty kitty…..

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:02:51pm

re: #172 Timothy Watson

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Sounds great.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:03:11pm

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April 2013. Foggy morning.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:03:57pm

re: #178 Sir John Barron

Sounds great.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:04:03pm

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Zhongshuge Bookstore in Shanghai is one of the stunning bookstores we are featuring at nytimes.com as destinations in their own right. What would yours be? Photo by Zhongshuge Bookstore. Online tomorrow at nytimes.com. #bookstores #shanghai #zhongshuge #china #travel

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:06:04pm

Oh, and Congressional Democrats should not forget to point out that the GOP has had since 2011 to put a “repeal and replace” bill on the table, has had since 2014 to put up such a bill to a full vote of Congress, and has repeatedly refused to do so. That they have done nothing since 2011 but make excuses about why they can’t write such a bill, as well as pointedly refused to submit any proposed bill to the CBO for review.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:08:57pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:10:10pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Timothy Watson  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:10:50pm

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:14:53pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Second, turn the debate over replacement into a choice between whatever Republicans (and the few Blue Dogs) propose and single-payer. No half-assed measures, no “bipartisan” agreements, just single-payer or further fleecing of Americans by health insurers.

I’ll call my shot… the Republicans ultimately will offer no proposals for replacement whatsoever, thereby dooming the whole thing.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:18:38pm

re: #188 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I’ll call my shot… the Republicans ultimately will offer no proposals for replacement whatsoever.

Of course they won’t, primarily because they don’t want to be the ones held responsible for what they know is going to be an utter disaster. They want to do what they do best: Create an utter mess, then dragoon the Democrats into “helping” them clean it up so they can ultimately claim credit.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:24:27pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

First, insist that they will filibuster any repeal bill that does not include the proposed replacement on the grounds that Americans cannot afford to sit and wait for Congress to make up its mind.

Second, turn the debate over replacement into a choice between whatever Republicans (and the few Blue Dogs) propose and single-payer. No half-assed measures, no “bipartisan” agreements, just single-payer or further fleecing of Americans by health insurers.

Third, watch as Republicans are reduced to sneaky tactics like reconciliation to push through a repeal measure then put the entire blame upon them.

One other thought: They could suggest renaming the Affordable Care Act the Ronald Reagan Memorial Health Care Act. That would be trolling.

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:28:19pm

Beyond disgusted:

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:29:01pm

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And while we’re at it, let’s wish Finland a happy Independence Day. Next year, they will (hopefully) be able to celebrate 100 years of independence from Russia.

After what happened last time Russia might not be eager to try again.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:29:09pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

Of course they won’t, primarily because they don’t want to be the ones held responsible for what they know is going to be an utter disaster. They want to do what they do best: Create an utter mess, then dragoon the Democrats into “helping” them clean it up so they can ultimately claim credit.

And when the Democrats refuse to play ball (ideally with a unified push on single-payer), it will all blow up in front of their faces.

That’s why it almost feels like they WANT the repeal bill to fail right out of the gate.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:29:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:31:37pm

re: #192 electrotek

Beyond disgusted:

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:32:24pm

re: #102 Kragar

Nice of them to bunch up like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:32:56pm
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electrotek  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:34:46pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Pamela Geller should be out to express her outrage in 3…2…1…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:36:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:37:31pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:37:34pm
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I have no idea, but it got a follow out of me.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:38:43pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL what a goddam goat rodeo.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:40:51pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have to agree with him. He’s already created enough of a mess in Ohio (see last thread about Ohio revenue issues due to tax cuts). He needs not to create more for the entire country. Even if he might be slightly better as president than Trump, I think it best for America to have to deal with Trump. Call it aversion therapy. I’m hoping people are getting a message about Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:45:12pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

You get much rain today?
Gauge here is .79 inch. Around 3 pm it was 47F and there was sleet mixed with the rain.
Forecast for Thursday morning isn’t very promising.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:46:59pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

I have to agree with him. He’s already created enough of a mess in Ohio (see last thread about Ohio revenue issues due to tax cuts). He needs not to create more for the entire country. Even if he might be slightly better as president than Trump, I think it best for America to have to deal with Trump. Call it aversion therapy. I’m hoping people are getting a message about Republicans.

“It will show them how bad that party really is,” was a reason given for supporting Hitler as Chancellor. How’d that work out?

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:48:14pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

I have to agree with him. He’s already created enough of a mess in Ohio (see last thread about Ohio revenue issues due to tax cuts). He needs not to create more for the entire country. Even if he might be slightly better as president than Trump, I think it best for America to have to deal with Trump. Call it aversion therapy. I’m hoping people are getting a message about Republicans.

If it was only about your little country…

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:49:16pm

re: #202 wrenchwench

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I have no idea, but it got a follow out of me.

Would make an awesome tattoo….

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:50:28pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

You get much rain today?
Gauge here is .79 inch. Around 3 pm it was 47F and there was sleet mixed with the rain.
Forecast for Thursday morning isn’t very promising.

Yeah…it has been fairly steady all day. Seems to be over now. I didn’t see it, but some folks said we had a little snow flake activity early this morning. I hope it dries out before the temps go down over night.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:52:04pm

re: #208 Nyet

If it was only about your little country…

Exactly. This is bigger than US politics at this point.

I’m not seeing too many avenues to thwart him, though. Unless someone is quietly doing some work.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:52:35pm
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Nyet  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:53:04pm

re: #211 makeitstop

There will be no deus ex machina in this movie.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:53:26pm

re: #207 We’re Way Beyond Snark

“It will show them how bad that party really is,” was a reason given for supporting Hitler as Chancellor. How’d that work out?

I never supported Trump. I wasn’t one of those that said Trump would teach everyone a lesson if elected. What I mean is now that people went for him, they will be the ones that will have to live with their reasons. Big difference .

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:57:30pm

re: #213 Nyet

There will be no deus ex machina in this movie.

Yeah, guess not. It’s just a pleasant little thought I allow myself to have every now and again. Gotta take ‘em where you can get ‘em nowadays.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:58:35pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

I never supported Trump. I wasn’t one of those that said Trump would teach everyone a lesson if elected. What I mean is now that people went for him, they will be the ones that will have to live with their reasons. Big difference .

You, I and BWS have had to endure Kasich. That he’s being promoted as a “compromise candidate” in the first place is incomprehensible.

Maybe the Branch Trumpidians get a goddam clue as they are being screwed over, but I’m not convinced.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 6, 2016 • 2:59:57pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

I never supported Trump. I wasn’t one of those that said Trump would teach everyone a lesson if elected. What I mean is now that people went for him, they will be the ones that will have to live with their reasons. Big difference .

I agree… but if ANY alternative is offered, grab it. Just saying.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:02:13pm

re: #207 We’re Way Beyond Snark

“It will show them how bad that party really is,” was a reason given for supporting Hitler as Chancellor. How’d that work out?

That one I haven’t heard. Citation?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:05:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:06:40pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another profile in courage by Mr. “Maverick.” FFS Senator McCain, he’s the President elect and you don’t want to talk about him? McCain should have just done us all a favor and resigned his Senate seat after Obama whipped his bitter ass.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:07:47pm

I don’t like Kasich either but if it were possible to use him to stop Trump, I’m all for that.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:07:48pm

re: #218 Belafon

That one I haven’t heard. Citation?

I’ll see if I can find it. Not this minute, I’m afraid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:08:01pm
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Anymouse  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:08:08pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

I never supported Trump. I wasn’t one of those that said Trump would teach everyone a lesson if elected. What I mean is now that people went for him, they will be the ones that will have to live with their reasons. Big difference .

Unfortunately, the rest of us have to live with him, and his supporters reasons will not be shaken.

Trump turns on a dime, and so do his supporters.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:14:27pm

re: #224 Anymouse

Unfortunately, the rest of us have to live with him, and his supporters reasons will not be shaken.

Trump turns on a dime, and so do his supporters.

They have to be soundly defeated and overrun. Simple as that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:16:23pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BeachDem  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:17:10pm

re: #216 Myron Falwell (no relation)

You, I and BWS have had to endure Kasich. That he’s being promoted as a “compromise candidate” in the first place is incomprehensible.

Maybe the Branch Trumpidians get a goddam clue as they are being screwed over, but I’m not convinced.

As a long-time Ohioan who has known Johnny K for a long time (friends went to school with him. Parents of friends promoted his first Congressional run etc.) I crack up to hear him described as a moderate and not so bad. I’ll give him that he’s smart and knows how government works, but he’s a nasty, vindictive piece of work, and the last person I would ever call moderate.

There’s a bunch over at kos who are singing his praises and pushing for the “Hamilton Electors” to push him through to save the day. Barf.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:20:55pm

re: #227 BeachDem

oh, lookie who’s promoting Hamilton Electors!

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:22:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:22:30pm

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:25:15pm

re: #227 BeachDem

As a long-time Ohioan who has known Johnny K for a long time (friends went to school with him. Parents of friends promoted his first Congressional run etc.) I crack up to hear him described as a moderate and not so bad. I’ll give him that he’s smart and knows how government works, but he’s a nasty, vindictive piece of work, and the last person I would ever call moderate.

There’s a bunch over at kos who are singing his praises and pushing for the “Hamilton Electors” to push him through to save the day. Barf.

Kasich tried to outdo Scott Walker with Senate Bill 5 —- an assault on public union employees that was so unbelievably bad, BILL FUCKING CUNNINGHAM CAMPAIGNED FOR IT’S REPEAL.

Conservative Commentator Bill Cunningham Urges You To Vote NO On Issue 2

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:29:04pm

re: #231 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Kasich tried to outdo Scott Walker with Senate Bill 5 —- an assault on public union employees that was so unbelievably bad, BILL FUCKING CUNNINGHAM CAMPAIGNED FOR IT’S REPEAL.

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I saw a good point made about Kasich, Cruz, and Trump in the primaries. Trump wants to do bad shit. Cruz has voted for it to be put into law and Kasich has signed it.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:31:43pm

re: #218 Belafon

Google “Nazi party protest vote”.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:32:58pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

I saw a good point made about Kasich, Cruz, and Trump in the primaries. Trump wants to do bad shit. Cruz has voted for it to be put into law and Kasich has signed it.

They’re just like the Three Stooges… if the Three Stooges were Joe Besser, Curly Joe DeRita and Joe “Fake Shemp” Palma.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:40:34pm

re: #233 Nyet

Google “Nazi party protest vote”.

Thanks. I found it in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. (Fascism, the last stage of capitalism. Ugh.)

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BeachDem  Dec 6, 2016 • 3:44:07pm

re: #234 Myron Falwell (no relation)

They’re just like the Three Stooges… if the Three Stooges were Joe Besser, Curly Joe DeRita and Joe “Fake Shemp” Palma.

plunderbund.com has kept a good running tally of Kasich’s bullshit (also a pretty good bead on DeWine—double ugh). When I hear people singing Kasich’s praises, I have to go read there for awhile to get a dose of sanity.


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