Woo Hoo! Little Green Footballs Makes Alex Jones’s “Ultimate Fake News List!”

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I’m pleased to announce that Little Green Footballs has made it onto a very prestigious list of news outlets: The Ultimate “Fake News” List by none other than deranged conspiracy-monger Alex Jones!

The whack jobs who run Infowars are clearly stung by the absolutely accurate charge that they peddle fake news to gullible right wingers, so they’re doing what these snake oil salesmen always do: “I know you are but what am I?”

FULL LIST OF FAKE NEWS OUTLETS

– The New York Times
– The Washington Post
– CNN
– NBC News
– MSNBC
– CBS News
– ABC News
– Salon​.com
– The Huffington Post
– Rolling Stone
– BBC News
– Sky News
– Financial Times
– Politico
– New York Daily News
– L.A. Times
– USA Today
– US News & World Report
– CBC
– Gawker
– Newsweek
– Time
– Business Insider
– Daily Beast
– VICE
– Yahoo News
– Daily Kos
– Young Turks
– Slate
– NPR
– PBS
– Raw Story
– New Yorker
– Buzzfeed
– MoveOn
– Think Progress
– Media Matters
– Wonkette
– Center for American Progress
Little Green Footballs
– The Economist

Unfortunately we’re almost in last place, but I don’t think it’s ordered by importance since The Economist, whose budget I’m pretty sure is much bigger than ours, is below LGF. Nonetheless, we pledge to work even harder so the next time Jones and his addle-brained crony Paul Joseph Watson publish one of these lists we’re at Number One!

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409 comments

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electrotek  Dec 7, 2016 • 5:57:03pm

Well, that’s one list I will be extra reliant on for “fake” news.

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 5:58:10pm

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 7, 2016 • 5:58:30pm

The New York Times is fake? Oy Vey this one is nuts.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 5:59:20pm

LOL

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:00:10pm

Isn’t that pretty much every media outlet in existence? Who ISN’T on there?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:00:22pm

re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor

Isn’t that pretty much every media outlet in existence? Who ISN’T on there?

Teen Vogue.

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:00:35pm

IRRELLLEVANNTTT!!!!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:01:05pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

lol

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lawhawk  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:02:07pm

re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor

Isn’t that pretty much every media outlet in existence? Who ISN’T on there?

Breitbart, Infowars, and Prison Planet. National Enquirer too. IOW, all the conspiracy sites are legit - and legit news sites are fake.

Up is down. Right is wrong. Facts are lies. And Fake is True.

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Cheechako  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:02:38pm

re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor

Isn’t that pretty much every media outlet in existence? Who ISN’T on there?

FOX

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:03:13pm

Fake journalist with artificial soul and zero empathy says what?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:04:45pm

I wonder if this Twitter rando stole the list from Alex Jones or vice versa?

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:04:57pm
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b.d.  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:05:51pm

Congratulations Charles, has your prize for making the list arrived yet?

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Dave In Austin  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:06:02pm

Winner Winner….

Chicken Dinner!
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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:06:21pm

re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor

Isn’t that pretty much every media outlet in existence? Who ISN’T on there?

CNBC

Wall Street Journal

Must be interested in all that big wall street stuff.

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electrotek  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:06:24pm

Remember those times a decade ago when citing a link from InfoWars, PrisonPlanet, or any other conspiracy site would have got you laughed and mocked at brutally within Republican circles?

My, my…how 10 years changes everything.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:06:50pm

Oh right. So, outlets with at least a tenuous connection to objective reality (and admittedly, in some cases ONLY a tenuous connection) = banned. Propaganda, outright lies, and unmedicated insanity = A-OK. Sure.

This is the year a nuclear-armed superpower completely lost its fucking mind. Historians are going to be picking apart America’s 2016 for the next fifty years, if we’re lucky.

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TedStriker  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:07:07pm

re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor

Isn’t that pretty much every media outlet in existence? Who ISN’T on there?

Infowars, Prison Planet, Breitbart, and SMOTI’s joint.

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TedStriker  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:07:37pm

re: #10 lawhawk

Breitbart, Infowars, and Prison Planet. National Enquirer too. IOW, all the conspiracy sites are legit - and legit news sites are fake.

Up is down. Right is wrong. Facts are lies. And Fake is True.

Ignorance is strength…

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:08:22pm

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:11:09pm

NOOOOOOOOO!!! IT’S NOT FAIR IT’S NOT FAIR WAAAAAHHHH

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TedStriker  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:11:36pm

re: #18 electrotek

Remember those times a decade ago when citing a link from InfoWars, PrisonPlanet, or any other conspiracy site would have got you laughed and mocked at brutally within Republican circles?

My, my…how 10 years changes everything.

Funny how their never-ending quest for power and a black man in the White House for eight years completely fucking warped the GOP’s disposition.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:18:18pm
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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:20:44pm

My local newspaper is not on that list. I shall have to send them a stern note.

/

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Bubblehead II  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:21:18pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:24:59pm

I’m truly afraid to see what Jones lists as “real” news sites.

Whirled Nuts Daily?
Freeperland?
Daily Stormer?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:25:59pm

I haven’t given a fuck about TIME Magazine’s “Person of the Year” for a long time and I’m not about to start now.

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lawhawk  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:26:21pm

re: #15 b.d.

Congratulations Charles, has your prize for making the list arrived yet?

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That’s rather fragile. It’s Italian after all…

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:26:35pm

re: #28 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I’m truly afraid to see what Jones lists as “real” news sites.

Whirled Nuts Daily?
Freeperland?
Daily Stormer?

Whichever ones are agreeing with his currently selected narrative and “facts”.

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Scout  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:30:12pm

There was a time when Time’s Man of the Year was the person the editors judged as being the most newsworthy.

“… that features and profiles a person, a group, an idea, or an object that “for better or for worse…has done the most to influence the events of the year”

Unfortunately, it seems most people have come to consider it an award or something.

Not sure how that happened or when, or whether it was intentional by the magazine.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:30:29pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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Merry Christmas

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:31:23pm

I had replied to someone wondering who Richard Spencer was, and I got this from someone else as a reply:

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:32:13pm

re: #15 b.d.

Congratulations Charles, has your prize for making the list arrived yet?

Ahh, the soft glow of electric sex beaming all throughout Cleveland Street.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:32:30pm

re: #32 Scout

There was a time when Time’s Man of the Year was the person the editors judged as being the most newsworthy.

“… that features and profiles a person, a group, an idea, or an object that “for better or for worse…has done the most to influence the events of the year”

Unfortunately, it seems most people have come to consider it an award or something.

Not sure how that happened or when, or whether it was intentional by the magazine.

It’s a misunderstanding. Most people think being given “Man of the Year” is an award, similar to “World’s greatest Dad.” Most aren’t going to think through what it actually means.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:33:36pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:35:46pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I haven’t given a fuck about TIME Magazine’s “Person of the Year” for a long time and I’m not about to start now.

Here is what it triggered as soon as I saw it. (Putting up new Photoshop for a second time today for the amusement of the night shift lizards)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:37:00pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:37:51pm

re: #28 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I’m truly afraid to see what Jones lists as “real” news sites.

Whirled Nuts Daily?
Freeperland?
Daily Stormer?

I’m not afraid. Any sites named by them as “real” need to be automatically seen by us as “fake.” That would include Breitbart and Fox.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:38:33pm

How long before Best Leader Dump tells us that everybody knows Democracy doesn’t work, so it’s time for a change? He gets to decide, because MAGA!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:39:21pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I haven’t given a fuck about TIME Magazine’s “Person of the Year” for a long time and I’m not about to start now.

After dealing with it today (dry heaving) my observations:

Horns via the M of Time

Ratted chair - def not from Trump Tower. How did he approve?

His fucking hair has several canals in it. How did he approve?

“President of the Divided States of America” How did he approve?

WWE president, all pub is good pub.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:39:43pm
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darthstar  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:40:15pm

Wow…I didn’t know Detroit’s musical roots went all they back to the ancient age of techno…Reason #427 not to use Twitter as a primary source…

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Stanley Sea  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:40:17pm

re: #32 Scout

There was a time when Time’s Man of the Year was the person the editors judged as being the most newsworthy.

“… that features and profiles a person, a group, an idea, or an object that “for better or for worse…has done the most to influence the events of the year”

Unfortunately, it seems most people have come to consider it an award or something.

Not sure how that happened or when, or whether it was intentional by the magazine.

Not an award, but trump will see it as so.

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Cheechako  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:41:43pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

And trump is going to be very disappointed if he isn’t given the Nobel Peace Prize on his inauguration.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:41:57pm
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Belafon  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:41:58pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is why we all will have to stand together and against Trump.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:42:19pm

re: #41 Pawn of the Oppressor

How long before Best Leader Dump tells us that everybody knows Democracy doesn’t work, so it’s time for a change? He gets to decide, because MAGA!

He’ll get Kent Brockman to do the honors.

Simpsons Democracy doesn’t work Kent Brockman

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:46:05pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

I’ll frame the issue as a twin with the Hitler cover. Wish I had the code skill to put these side by side

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Stanley Sea  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:47:43pm

The canals in his hair.

Killing him tonight.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:48:27pm

re: #46 Cheechako

And trump is going to be very disappointed if when he isn’t given the Nobel Peace Prize on his inauguration.

Fixed.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:48:56pm
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Cheechako  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:49:36pm

re: #50 Unshaken Defiance

I’ll frame the issue as a twin with the Hitler cover. Wish I had the code skill to put these side by side

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Need to swap the trump picture out with the photo of the triple chin.

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:50:43pm

re: #53 Dave In Austin

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Nah, that’s only for fancy dinners. Most nights she makes Kraft Mac & Cheese dinner instead.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:51:15pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Unions have been hated by rich old, angry male WASPs since the beginning. Trump threatening the USW president isn’t really that different from Carnegie or Frick using absolute tactics to crush unions, fire with impunity and use force as suppression, even to the point of outright murder.

Trump is playing with fire thinking that he won’t get burned… that the United Steel Workers wouldn’t strike in protest against him, or that all other trade unions opposed to him won’t do the same in solidarity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:51:42pm

good grief, he is dangerous.

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TedStriker  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:52:00pm

re: #55 William Lewis

Nah, that’s only for fancy dinners. Most nights she makes Kraft Mac & Cheese dinner instead.

Hey, for mac and cheese from a box, Kraft’s is pretty damn tasty.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:52:50pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:53:14pm
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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:53:16pm

Now I want Kraft mac and cheese. Which I haven’t eaten in decades.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:53:59pm

Wingnuts hate being told you think they are 14 yrs old.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:54:06pm
- The New York Times
- The Washington Post
- CNN
- NBC News
- MSNBC
- CBS News
- ABC News
- Salon​.com
- The Huffington Post
- Rolling Stone
- BBC News
- Sky News
- Financial Times
- Politico
- New York Daily News
- L.A. Times
- USA Today
- US News & World Report
- CBC
- Gawker
- Newsweek
- Time
- Business Insider
- Daily Beast
- VICE
- Yahoo News
- Daily Kos
- Young Turks
- Slate
- NPR
- PBS
- Raw Story
- New Yorker
- Buzzfeed
- MoveOn
- Think Progress
- Media Matters
- Wonkette
- Center for American Progress
- Little Green Footballs
- The Economist

Alex Jones and his brain trust picking a fight with all of these organizations (that value verifiable facts over crazed ranting) is of a piece with Breitbart’s pathetic attempt to win a fight with breakfast cereal.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:54:26pm
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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:55:01pm

re: #58 TedStriker

Hey, for mac and cheese from a box, Kraft’s is pretty damn tasty.

I like it too but it is about as simple a thing as is imaginable.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:55:05pm

So, Charles, was your proof of the fake document Dan Rather had faked? I can’t keep it all in order.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:55:30pm

re: #38 ObserverArt

Mind if I tweet that?

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:55:54pm

re: #59 Belafon

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Whiny man-child who has never worked a day in his life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:57:20pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:58:25pm

re: #67 jaunte

Mind if I tweet that?

Feel free.

But if Trump comes after me, I’ll need help with lawyers!

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:58:25pm

re: #62 Dave In Austin

Wingnuts hate being told you think they are 14 yrs old.

That’s always a good one. The other way to yank their chain is “Stupid Nazi” jokes.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2016 • 6:59:26pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

I suspect this guy’s had death threats before today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:03:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:05:28pm

ahhh…the good old days….

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:05:50pm

After reading the Driftglass article from littlegreenfootballs.com, I have to ask: How are we going to battle the media?

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:06:29pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:06:47pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ahhh…the good old days….

Who is gonna run the EPA? *gag* We are so screwed unless a lot of us stand up.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:09:00pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ahhh…the good old days….

Soft coal.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:09:56pm

re: #65 William Lewis

I like it too but it is about as simple a thing as is imaginable.

Add tuna & hot sauce.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:11:13pm

re: #79 Stanley Sea

Add tuna & hot sauce.

Ewww, tuna requires white sauce or jack cheese. And potato chips.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:11:33pm

re: #75 Belafon

After reading the Driftglass article from littlegreenfootballs.com, I have to ask: How are we going to battle the media?

Punk rock!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:11:46pm

re: #80 We’re Way Beyond Snark

Ewww, tuna requires white sauce or jack cheese. And pitato chips.

Try it first.

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:13:14pm

re: #79 Stanley Sea

Add tuna & hot sauce.

Tuna and peas if I’m adding to it. Must admit I prefer it straight though.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:14:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:14:30pm

tweet is from March, but particularly awkward tonight…

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:17:40pm
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Dragonomics  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:20:02pm

So much fake news and so little time. Ah, fuck it! I like it here. Think I’ll hang around and bask in the insanity of truth.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:25:39pm
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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:28:00pm
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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:29:09pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:29:16pm

Scary thought: In just over a month Trump gets control of @POTUS Twitter account.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:29:29pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

Sopan Deb has been distinguishing himself quite a bit as of late.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:30:05pm
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unproven innocence  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:30:29pm

re: #89 Kragar

Apparently it’s a strategy to divert attention from how much he has endangered Taiwan.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:32:36pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:35:33pm

re: #94 unproven innocence

Apparently it’s a strategy to divert attention from how much he has endangered Taiwan.

He’s going to have to come up with a diversion from this diversion, seeing as he just put all trade and industry unions on red alert.

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bratwurst  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:36:24pm
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jaunte  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:40:15pm

“…Using precise psychological terms, he said scandal-mongering media risked falling prey to coprophilia, or arousal from excrement, and consumers of these media risked coprophagia, or eating excrement.

The Argentine-born pontiff excused himself for using such terms in order to get his point across while answering a question about the correct use of the media.

“I think the media have to be very clear, very transparent, and not fall into - no offence intended - the sickness of coprophilia, that is, always wanting to cover scandals, covering nasty things, even if they are true,” he said.

“And since people have a tendency towards the sickness of coprophagia, a lot of damage can be done.”

Alex Jones: high on his own supply.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:40:29pm

Over & out. This is just too much.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:41:42pm
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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:43:46pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:44:34pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

Over & out. This is just too much.

Wheeeeee!

We are on some kind of a bizarre roller coaster heading to dips and dives unknown.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:46:01pm
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makeitstop  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:46:39pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

Over & out. This is just too much.

And I think this is the point. Trump and everyone working for him are throwing as much shit as they can come up with with the hope of wearing out opposition.

They want us to say ‘fuck it’ and just check out. We cannot do that.

(Not attacking or blaming you at all, Stanley. Just pointing out that this is their strategy - to overwhelm us and tire us out. Gonna be a long four years.)

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unproven innocence  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:47:39pm

re: #96 Myron Falwell (no relation)

He’s going to have to come up with a diversion from this diversion, seeing as he just put all trade and industry unions on red alert.

From things I’ve read recently about Trump’s evolving inner circle of billionaires, crippling teachers unions (and others) is their grand strategy, in order to 1) directly help the super-rich, 2) undermine major funding sources for dems, locally and nationally, and 3) pave the way for destruction of all public education, so that only home-schooling and “private” education would remain viable —with both funded by taxpayers, nonetheless.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:47:42pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wait, isn’t “corporate socialism” fascism?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:49:03pm

The president of the American Federation of Teachers weighs in.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:50:50pm
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wheat-dogg  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:50:55pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

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That’s quite alarming, not remarkable. Gorbachev and Putin are nothing alike. Plus, he’s denying Russia has a human rights problem, as does China.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:51:54pm
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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:52:50pm

Life as a small-town official:

Five minutes after my wife and I got back from town, I got a call from the mayor emeritus.

He complained that the water tower alarm was making automated calls to his house.

I have not yet been trained in the water system, but I was the only board member he could get hold of.

I called all the other board members, no joy. Called the just-left chairwoman pro-tempore asking what the heck am I supposed to do. She had also been called by the alarm system (apparently the phone number list in the alarm system hasn’t been updated in several years). She’d already called the gun shop owner (who knows the system) to take a look at it.

He found that one of the two wells was off-line, causing the water tower alarm to go haywire (it was complaining it is too cold apparently). He reset the system and the problem ceased.

I spent a couple hours on the phone trying to get hold of anyone that could help me figure out what was going on before the former chairwoman pro-tempore called me back.

Bigger concern behind the tag:

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wheat-dogg  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:53:19pm

re: #98 jaunte

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Alex Jones: high on his own supply.

Ah, the Pope is a fake news source. Pay no attention to him!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2016 • 7:58:33pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:00:39pm

re: #105 unproven innocence

From things I’ve read recently about Trump’s evolving inner circle of billionaires, crippling teachers unions (and others) is their grand strategy, in order to 1) directly help the super-rich, 2) undermine major funding sources for dems, locally and nationally, and 3) pave the way for destruction of all public education, so that only home-schooling and “private” education would remain viable —with both funded by taxpayers, nonetheless.

Only they aren’t disciplined enough to carry that plan out. They will overreach bigly, and suffer the inevitable consequences (of which Trump is not bothering to think about).

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retired cynic  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:02:12pm

re: #105 unproven innocence

From things I’ve read recently about Trump’s evolving inner circle of billionaires, crippling teachers unions (and others) is their grand strategy, in order to 1) directly help the super-rich, 2) undermine major funding sources for dems, locally and nationally, and 3) pave the way for destruction of all public education, so that only home-schooling and “private” education would remain viable —with both funded by taxpayers, nonetheless.

Can we say his “devolving” inner circle? I can’t see them getting better.

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unproven innocence  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:04:06pm

re: #115 retired cynic

Sure.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:05:15pm

re: #115 retired cynic

Can we say his “devolving” inner circle? I can’t see them getting better.

They all seem to be egotistical, single-issue nominees. I can’t see Mike Flynn working with anyone, for ex.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:06:16pm

re: #115 retired cynic

Can we say his “devolving” inner circle? I can’t see them getting better.

They all are reminiscent of Booji Boy.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:08:53pm

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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:11:36pm

re: #118 Myron Falwell (no relation)

They all are reminiscent of Booji Boy.

Are we not men???

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mmmirele  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:11:44pm

re: #111 Anymouse

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:12:39pm

re: #119 Scottishdragon

Needs moar ümläts

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:14:52pm

re: #122 Anymouse

Needs moar ümläts

Hard to insert into memes without better software (or manipulation skills!) than what I have.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:15:54pm

re: #121 mmmirele

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ckkatz  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:20:30pm

re: #124 Anymouse

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:20:33pm

re: #123 Scottishdragon

Here’s a qüick shop.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:20:55pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

Are we not men???

WE ARE D—E—V—O!

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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:23:31pm

re: #118 Myron Falwell (no relation)

They all are reminiscent of Booji Boy.

re: #120 ObserverArt

Are we not men???

A way for me to close out the day’s activities at Little Green Footballs. Some Devo that fits the topics.

Devo Corporate Anthem

Devo - Freedom Of Choice

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:25:18pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:25:34pm

re: #105 unproven innocence

From things I’ve read recently about Trump’s evolving inner circle of billionaires, crippling teachers unions (and others) is their grand strategy, in order to 1) directly help the super-rich, 2) undermine major funding sources for dems, locally and nationally, and 3) pave the way for destruction of all public education, so that only home-schooling and “private” education would remain viable —with both funded by taxpayers, nonetheless.

The unsaid portion about Donald Trump’s “draining the swamp” is the fact that he’s refilling that space with his own personal septic tank.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:26:57pm

re: #125 ckkatz

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:26:59pm

My prediction tonight (since I just got done watching Tora! Tora! Tora! and was thinking about all of what happened after that…):

Trump will make good on his promise to “bomb the hell outta ISIS!” by using nuclear weapons and then bragging about it from the East Wing. His popularity in the US will go over 50%.

TV will show horrific pictures of flash blinded kids, massive keloid burns on the dead and dying, and maps will show the radiation plumes spreading into Turkey, Kurdistan and Iran.

The Middle East will consider this a declaration of war against Islam, and our allies will know we cannot be trusted for anything or with anything and begin to arrange world affairs without us. We will be international pariahs. Our diplomats will be ignored and our promises will be unheeded.

The Age of America will end. This will now be the century of Chinese ascendancy…and half of America will be applauding as China makes the red Trump hats they wear.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:30:12pm
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jaunte  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:30:35pm
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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:31:29pm

re: #132 Scottishdragon

My prediction tonight (since I just got done watching Tora! Tora! Tora! and was thinking about all of what happened after that…):

Trump will make good on his promise to “bomb the hell outta ISIS!” by using nuclear weapons and then bragging about it from the East Wing. His popularity in the US will go over 50%.

TV will show horrific pictures of flash blinded kids, massive keloid burns on the dead and dying, and maps will show the radiation plumes spreading into Turkey, Kurdistan and Iran.

The Middle East will consider this a declaration of war against Islam, and our allies will know we cannot be trusted for anything or with anything and begin to arrange world affairs without us. We will be international pariahs. Our diplomats will be ignored and our promises will be unheeded.

The Age of America will end. This will now be the century of Chinese ascendancy…and half of America will be applauding as China makes the red Trump hats they wear.

Let’s hope someone can drill it through Mr. Trump’s rather thick skull you can’t just go round the world dropping nuclear weapons on people you don’t like.

As Gov. Pence is an end-times Evangelical, I am not hopeful it would be him making that attempt. Hopefully someone in the Department of Defense or the Central Intelligence Agency can sit him down for a talk about that.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:33:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:33:27pm
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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:34:55pm

My wife suggested today we take our passports with us to Sacramento. (Just in case a sudden detour to Canada or Mexico becomes necessary.)

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BeachDem  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:37:53pm

Because of course they will:

The Republican National Committee will host its Christmas Party this year at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., the newest property of its newfound leader.

huffingtonpost.com

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:40:10pm

The Truman National Security Project has a fantastic series of Choose Your Own Trumpventure! scenarios.

Click here for the specific one where you get to be the CJCS and POTUS Trump wants to play with nuclear fire!

Can you keep your job and keep the civilian deaths to a minimum?

Find out now! The next nuclear arms race is just a few hundred thousand casualties away!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:40:50pm

re: #124 Anymouse

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ckkatz  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:41:06pm

re: #131 Anymouse

re: #131 Anymouse

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:42:40pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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Scout  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:45:17pm

I’ve got no doubt whatsoever that Trump will launch a war of choice before 2017 is over.

My bet is it will be against Iran, but there’s a whole world of choices for him.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:46:09pm

re: #141 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

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BeachDem  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:47:31pm

re: #134 jaunte

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Interestingly, the bill also blocks local authorities from regulatingthe sale of puppies from unlicensed breeders at pet stores.

Think it’s an odd piece of legislation about minimum wage and comp time?

The bill was originally written when lobbyists for Petland sought to block ordinances adopted in Grove City and Toledo that would crack down on the sale of puppies at pet stores…More recently, the business community jumped in with a wish list of its own…

innovationohio.org

Ohio Republicans are slime.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:48:43pm

re: #144 Scout

I’ve got no doubt whatsoever that Trump will launch a war of choice before 2017 is over.

My bet is it will be against Iran, but there’s a whole world of choices for him.

I think the US military is aware of how insane a war against Iran would be. Let’s hope they can talk him down. (He has a cabinet full of generals, after all.)

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:49:47pm

Going to have to hit the sack here.

I am going to admit that I am even more terrified now than I was 3 weeks ago.

Every time I think he couldn’t make things worse…he does.

We are going back to the days of COINTELPRO, investigations and persecution of civil rights movements, a full on attack on freedom of speech, and as I already said above, I believe we will use thermonuclear weapons in the Middle East and very likely break up NATO.

And Trump will be applauded as he provides the circus to entertain his audience.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:50:37pm

re: #142 ckkatz

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:50:51pm

re: #144 Scout

I’ve got no doubt whatsoever that Trump will launch a war of choice before 2017 is over.

My bet is it will be against Iran, but there’s a whole world of choices for him.

North Korea will do something really stupid and it will be the Balkans circa summer 1914 all over again.

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:52:04pm

re: #144 Scout

I’ve got no doubt whatsoever that Trump will launch a war of choice before 2017 is over.

My bet is it will be against Iran, but there’s a whole world of choices for him.

That is what President Putin wants to drive up the cost of his oil and natural gas.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:54:03pm

re: #151 William Lewis

That is what President Putin wants to drive up the cost of his oil and natural gas.

Wait until Russian spec ops Russian speaking Latvian protestors are setting fires and demanding reintegration into Mother Russia…

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:55:08pm

Man kills ex-girlfriend’s children and critically wounds her, before apparently committing suicide.

The Albuquerque police say he broke into her home after she refused Christmas presents for her children from him, and attacked them when they came home from an outing in an ambush. The police also say the mother attempted to save one of her children, though the article does not specify how.

The eldest child was nine.

huffingtonpost.com

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:56:46pm

re: #153 Anymouse

Man kills ex-girlfriend’s children and critically wounds her, before apparently committing suicide.

The Albuquerque police say he broke into her home after she refused Christmas presents for her children from him, and attacked them when they came home from an outing in an ambush. The police also say the mother attempted to save one of her children, though the article does not specify how.

The eldest child was nine.

huffingtonpost.com

My God. I can’t even.

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retired cynic  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:56:50pm

re: #153 Anymouse

I didn’t feel like celebrating Christmas anyway. That sure put another nail in the tire.

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ckkatz  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:57:17pm

re: #149 Anymouse

re: #149 Anymouse

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Scottishdragon  Dec 7, 2016 • 8:59:26pm

Good night all. I have to teach tomorrow so bed time is past due.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:00:16pm

re: #156 ckkatz

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:01:04pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:06:49pm

re: #111 Anymouse

Hat tip for diligence.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:10:42pm

re: #144 Scout

I’ve got no doubt whatsoever that Trump will launch a war of choice before 2017 is over.

My bet is it will be against Iran, but there’s a whole world of choices for him.

Yeah, I’m in the process of moving $30k in under-performing mutual funds into defense industry funds.

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:10:51pm

My inner redneck loves this.

Shotgun Guitar played and SHOT by Rev. Peyton

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:11:46pm

re: #132 Scottishdragon

My prediction tonight (since I just got done watching Tora! Tora! Tora! and was thinking about all of what happened after that…):

Trump will make good on his promise to “bomb the hell outta ISIS!” by using nuclear weapons and then bragging about it from the East Wing. His popularity in the US will go over 50%.

TV will show horrific pictures of flash blinded kids, massive keloid burns on the dead and dying, and maps will show the radiation plumes spreading into Turkey, Kurdistan and Iran.

The Middle East will consider this a declaration of war against Islam, and our allies will know we cannot be trusted for anything or with anything and begin to arrange world affairs without us. We will be international pariahs. Our diplomats will be ignored and our promises will be unheeded.

The Age of America will end. This will now be the century of Chinese ascendancy…and half of America will be applauding as China makes the red Trump hats they wear.

He tries that shit, and say goodbye to the US. His 46% minority will not unify the country despite orders to unify, and our majority will rebel, likely with heavy violence as a result.

Trump will lose control as every worker walks out of their jobs and refuses to work, grinding everything to a halt. He’ll try beating up and murdering people in order to comply, but it won’t work as those people will become martyrs of their own.

See, that’s Trump’s problem. He is incapable of seeing the consequences of his actions. The second he drops a thermonuclear weapon, ISIS will launch a coordinated assault on every single property that either he owns or bears his name. They will attack here, violently and with impunity.

Johan Galtung is being a bit optimistic in predicting the fall of the US as a world power, only because he isn’t taking a thermonuclear war into account.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:16:11pm

re: #144 Scout

I’ve got no doubt whatsoever that Trump will launch a war of choice before 2017 is over.

My bet is it will be against Iran, but there’s a whole world of choices for him.

His first war will be against us.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:18:54pm

re: #163 Myron Falwell (no relation)

He tries that shit, and say goodbye to the US. His 46% minority will not unify the country despite orders to unify, and our majority will rebel, likely with heavy violence as a result.

Trump will lose control as every worker walks out of their jobs and refuses to work, grinding everything to a halt. He’ll try beating up and murdering people in order to comply, but it won’t work as those people will become martyrs of their own.

See, that’s Trump’s problem. He is incapable of seeing the consequences of his actions. The second he drops a thermonuclear weapon, ISIS will launch a coordinated assault on every single property that either he owns or bears his name. They will attack here, violently and with impunity.

Johan Galtung is being a bit optimistic in predicting the fall of the US as a world power, only because he isn’t taking a thermonuclear war into account.

I am not so sure the military will cooperate with a nuclear launch order.

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:19:24pm
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retired cynic  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:20:39pm

re: #165 wheat-dogg

I’m hoping.

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:22:13pm

re: #165 wheat-dogg

I am not so sure the military will cooperate with a nuclear launch order.

It will be the first real test of the US principle of civilian control of the military since 1860. I’d rather not have to rely on mutiny for world survival.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:23:42pm

re: #160 Unshaken Defiance

Hat tip for diligence.

Well, someone’s gotta do it, and I think that’s one of the things I got elected for.

Either that or to eat cookies at the village hall. (::

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:25:27pm

re: #165 wheat-dogg

I am not so sure the military will cooperate with a nuclear launch order.

My thought too. And the President may be able to launch strategic weapons alone, but they’re ballistic missles aimed at the wrong targets. I have no idea how tactical nukes are kept/ deployed.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:26:48pm

re: #165 wheat-dogg

I am not so sure the military will cooperate with a nuclear launch order.

I’m pretty sure they would. And if some sort of general order went out, only one command would have to comply with it.

Nuclear personnel are trained, screened, and tested with the idea that when the order comes down, they won’t question it.

Some group sitting in a silo in Western Nebraska, or a crew on a submarine somewhere isn’t getting the world news in their command. If an order went out, I would be quite sure that many or most commands would carry it out.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:29:01pm

re: #168 William Lewis

It will be the first real test of the US principle of civilian control of the military since 1860. I’d rather not have to rely on mutiny for world survival.

I could see an argument made that the military (if it revolted) would be upholding its oath to defend the Constitution against domestic enemies.

But I would prefer not to have a need for such a revolt; likely it would only be part of the military and it would be quite bloody.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:29:36pm

re: #171 Anymouse

I’m pretty sure they would. And if some sort of general order went out, only one command would have to comply with it.

Nuclear personnel are trained, screened, and tested with the idea that when the order comes down, they won’t question it.

Some group sitting in a silo in Western Nebraska, or a crew on a submarine somewhere isn’t getting the world news in their command. If an order went out, I would be quite sure that many or most commands would carry it out.

That is a scary thought. I’m sure you’re probably right, but I hope Trump’s military advisers can talk him down from a launch. If anything, they could remind him that he’ll go down in history as the man who destroyed civilization as we know it.

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retired cynic  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:31:03pm

re: #173 wheat-dogg

That is a scary thought. I’m sure you’re probably right, but I hope Trump’s military advisers can talk him down from a launch. If anything, they could remind him that he’ll go down in history as the man who destroyed civilization as we know it.

There’s no money for him in that! Best argument.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:32:04pm

re: #173 wheat-dogg

He’s easy to distract.

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:33:22pm

re: #173 wheat-dogg

That is a scary thought. I’m sure you’re probably right, but I hope Trump’s military advisers can talk him down from a launch. If anything, they could remind him that he’ll go down in history as the man who destroyed civilization as we know it.

I wonder if in 10000 years, archeologists will look at this era the way we look at the end of the Bronze Age: an era of trade and progress that suddenly blew every nation but Egypt to hell (and Egypt just barely survived) for no apparent reason.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:34:00pm

re: #175 We’re Way Beyond Snark

He’s easy to distract.

Sadly true. If someone tweeted that only a numbskull would start a nuclear war. Trump would change course in a jiffy. And blame the critics for spreading lies.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:35:16pm

re: #173 wheat-dogg

That is a scary thought. I’m sure you’re probably right, but I hope Trump’s military advisers can talk him down from a launch. If anything, they could remind him that he’ll go down in history as the man who destroyed civilization as we know it.

Moreover, assume for the sake of argument a portion of the US military decided to roll the tanks down Constitution Ave., seizing the White House, Congress, the Supreme Court, Treasury, &c.

Not all of the military would be on-board with such a thing (by their nature, coups, even if you could justify it somehow, are secretive in nature until they are launched). Another portion of the military would be likely loyal to the government.

Even without nuclear weapons, we have an armada capable of destroying much of the world. If that were turned as internecine warfare against different factions of the military, the result would be disastrous destruction of the USA. There would be no real good guys here.

Watching polling numbers in Navy Times, I found it interesting that for quite a while, Gary Johnson was leading the pack in surveys of seamen. The only reason I can think that Gov. Johnson had such high polling numbers is because he is fundamentally committed to non-intervention with the military. It was only after his Aleppo moment that his numbers slipped in their polling.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:36:25pm

re: #176 William Lewis

I wonder if in 10000 years, archeologists will look at this era the way we look at the end of the Bronze Age: an era of trade and progress that suddenly blew every nation but Egypt to hell (and Egypt just barely survived) for no apparent reason.

They’ll have a treasure trove in our garbage to sort through — discarded cellphones and computers, plastic food containers and water bottles, TVs of all sizes. They won’t need to wonder what killed us off. ‘Twas waste that killed the beast.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:39:03pm

re: #172 Anymouse

I could see an argument made that the military (if it revolted) would be upholding its oath to defend the Constitution against domestic enemies.

But I would prefer not to have a need for such a revolt; likely it would only be part of the military and it would be quite bloody.

If mutiny has to happen in order to ruin the GOP’s dreams of dominance (not to mention outright nuclear annihilation) then so be it.

Needless to say the US will no longer be a world power; heck, this country is bound for near disunion at our current trajectory.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:44:11pm

re: #180 Myron Falwell (no relation)

If mutiny has to happen in order to ruin the GOP’s dreams of dominance (not to mention outright nuclear annihilation) then so be it.

Needless to say the US will no longer be a world power; heck, this country is bound for near disunion at our current trajectory.

Are we talking, necessarily, about mutiny, or about the refusal of one order as illegal?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:50:01pm

re: #178 Anymouse

Moreover, assume for the sake of argument a portion of the US military decided to roll the tanks down Constitution Ave., seizing the White House, Congress, the Supreme Court, Treasury, &c.

Not all of the military would be on-board with such a thing (by their nature, coups, even if you could justify it somehow, are secretive in nature until they are launched). Another portion of the military would be likely loyal to the government.

Even without nuclear weapons, we have an armada capable of destroying much of the world. If that were turned as internecine warfare against different factions of the military, the result would be disastrous destruction of the USA. There would be no real good guys here.

Let us also not forget that this would not happen in a vacuum. Every single pledged enemy will launch a full-on assault on the US, especially if the government collapses.

If Trump is mentally ill enough to drop a thermonuclear weapon, there will be no celebration by the red-hat crowd as bombs will be flying our way, coupled with every single retaliatory attack possible by ISIS, to exact as much pain as possible.

Then again, I also stand by my assertion that Trump is not healthy enough to last a single year in office, let alone four.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 9:53:42pm

re: #181 We’re Way Beyond Snark

Are we talking, necessarily, about mutiny, or about the refusal of one order as illegal?

I was referring to outright mutiny, which would no doubt result from refusing that one order.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:00:34pm

Gotta go for the night. My 35th birthday is on Friday, and I really hope it won’t be my last because of the usual suspects.

Later, lizards. 💤💤💤

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:01:58pm

re: #58 TedStriker

Add fried ground beef and hard boiled egg to mine.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:05:27pm
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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:05:42pm

re: #184 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Gotta go for the night. My 35th birthday is on Friday, and I really hope it won’t be my last because of the usual suspects.

Later, lizards. 💤💤💤

Hey, congradumalashuns!

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:09:28pm

As thin skinned as I know Trump is, I don’t see him using nukes. For one thing, it would ruin his business opportunities. I actually don’t see him doing much about ISIS. I would argue that his crew, especially Bannon, wants an attack on US soil. All the better to go completely dictator.

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Jack Burton  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:15:41pm

Infowars having the gall to call anyone else fake news falls into that Wolfgang Pauli “Not even wrong” territory.

Remember… Alex Jones and that douchenozzle Mancow got together and claimed a Comic Con party some of my close friends used to throw every year had *actual* vampires at it.

I know he’d been to it in the past, but I don’t even think Don Henrie was attending the party that year lol.

Oh and Shapeshifters, apparently Mancow was accosted by a shapeshifter. They didn’t elaborate on if they were of alien or supernatural origin.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:18:51pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:28:20pm

re: #188 Belafon

As thin skinned as I know Trump is, I don’t see him using nukes. For one thing, it would ruin his business opportunities. I actually don’t see him doing much about ISIS. I would argue that his crew, especially Bannon, wants an attack on US soil. All the better to go completely dictator.

Exactly this.

Unless his properties overseas are attacked…

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:30:20pm

FBI investigating a Huffington Post journalist over a fake tweet, claiming it has to follow up on all complaints to the FBI (no they don’t):

huffingtonpost.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:30:31pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

Exactly this.

Unless his properties overseas are attacked…

More like when they are…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:31:23pm

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:32:13pm

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

Not something up for discussion here.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:44:16pm

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

[DELETED]

Gee, Electric Cyborg, I hope you weren’t deleted. (::

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Alyosha  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:46:31pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:47:19pm

re: #196 Anymouse

Gee, Electric Cyborg, I hope you weren’t deleted. (::

Nope, just thought the better of something after I posted it.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:50:13pm

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Nope, just thought the better of something after I posted it.

I’ve done that. There are a couple of my now deleted comments floating around here.

Since I didn’t see your comment until you wrote [deleted], I made the off-the-keyboard joke that I hoped you’d not deleted yourself.

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:53:20pm

It’s a tad nipply at my twenty.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 7, 2016 • 10:55:47pm

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:01:42pm

re: #200 teleskiguy

It’s a tad nipply at my twenty.

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We have you beat. I can’t make an NWS picture like you did, but I can copy the info:

Fair

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:04:28pm

re: #202 Anymouse

We have you beat. I can’t make an NWS picture like you did, but I can copy the info:

Fair

-3°F

-19°C
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Wind Speed NW 9 mph
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I don’t know what OS you run, but if it’s Windows 10 there’s a screenshot tool built in (called the “snipping tool”) which makes it really easy to take a screenshot of just a particular area of the screen.

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:08:08pm

re: #200 teleskiguy

A slight breeze outside would put wind chills around here in the negative teens. Fortunately I’m not in the panhandle of Nebraska.*

*not knockin’ you Anymouse, just the panhandle of Nebraska in the middle of winter

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:08:09pm

re: #203 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know what OS you run, but if it’s Windows 10 there’s a screenshot tool built in (called the “snipping tool”) which makes it really easy to take a screenshot of just a particular area of the screen.

Also in win 7.

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Anymouse  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:09:09pm

re: #203 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know what OS you run, but if it’s Windows 10 there’s a screenshot tool built in (called the “snipping tool”) which makes it really easy to take a screenshot of just a particular area of the screen.

I don’t know how to use it. I am not terribly computer-literate. I can figure out how to turn it off and back on again (IT Crowd reference), but that’s about it.

Anything more complicated I leave to my wife.

I am going to hit the rack. Long road trip tomorrow.

Couldn’t buy tire chains in town today: the NAPA dealer says he doesn’t stock them because he only sells about three or four sets a year; you have to special order them from him.

I suppose I can get them in a truck stop in Wyoming or something if the weather gets really bad.

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:13:33pm

re: #206 Anymouse

The tire chains in my trunk at present? I bought them at an O’Reilly’s about three miles from the base of Little Cottonwood Canyon in Utah. They had all kinds of choices.

I had to buy the chains ‘cause they weren’t letting vehicles up the canyon (to go skiing!) unless they had chains. I found out that day why traffic is always a horror show in that area of SLC when it snows.

Oh well, I chained up and continued onward, and skied my ass off at Snowbird!

So, that’s the story of my tire chains.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:15:57pm

re: #207 teleskiguy

We ordered ours, but that’s because we have the special low-profile bungee cord version that never actually gets used because by the time they go to R3 (4WD vehicles with snow tires must put on chains), they just close the road.

First time I helped someone put on chains was a trial run with my sister’s car last year.

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:24:46pm

re: #208 klys (maker of Silmarils)

All folks who might use chains who never have, definitely do a dry run before venturing out. It’s a process and it takes time and effort.

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Cheechako  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:24:56pm

For everyone. The big secret about tire chains is to put them on before you’re in the ditch!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:25:59pm

re: #209 teleskiguy

All folks who might use chains who never have, definitely do a dry run before venturing out. It’s a process and it takes time and effort.

It is definitely easier to figure out before you are standing in the freezing snow/cold/wind.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:27:21pm

re: #206 Anymouse

I don’t know how to use it. I am not terribly computer-literate. I can figure out how to turn it off and back on again (IT Crowd reference), but that’s about it.

.

(You probably won’t see this, but…) click on it to start. Click and drag the mouse to outline the bit you want to snip. When you release the mouse, a document will open with your snipping on it. Save the document.

I’m going to bed now too. Night, all.

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Cheechako  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:30:15pm

re: #212 We’re Way Beyond Snark

(You probably won’t see this, but…) click on it to start. Click and drag the mouse to outline the bit you want to snip. When you release the mouse, a document will open with your snipping on it. Save the document.

For a real novice with Win 10, where do I go to “click on it”?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:33:19pm

re: #213 Cheechako

For a real novice with Win 10, where do I go to “click on it”?

For Windows 10, you can open the Start menu and start typing in “Snipping Tool” in the search box. It’ll pull up the program and you can click on it there.

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Cheechako  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:42:49pm

Back to the tire chain issue. I spent many years in my job with the Forest Service working in the field in the winter. I’ve lost count on how many times I’ve been stuck. When you’re stuck it’s very embarrassing to have to radio the office for help. Our office had a policy that if you have to call for help to get unstuck you were required to provide donuts for everyone the next day. I’ve spent hours digging mud and snow to get my rig unstuck to avoid making that call.

One time I used a 20 ft tow chain, a set of tire chains and a handy-man jack to winch my truck just 40 ft. Had to winch 18 inches at a time with the handy-man and then readjust the chains for the next 18 inches. Took about 2 hours but I didn’t have to make that radio call

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:48:06pm

re: #215 Cheechako

Back to the tire chain issue. I spent many years in my job with the Forest Service working in the field in the winter. I’ve lost count on how many times I’ve been stuck. When you’re stuck it’s very embarrassing to have to radio the office for help. Our office had a policy that if you have to call for help to get unstuck you were required to provide donuts for everyone the next day. I’ve spent hours digging mud and snow to get my rig unstuck to avoid making that call.

One time I used a 20 ft tow chain, a set of tire chains and a handy-man jack to winch my truck just 40 ft. Had to winch 18 inches at a time with the handy-man and then readjust the chains for the next 18 inches. Took about 2 hours but I didn’t have to make that radio call

When we did our most recent drive through snow (on SR49 from Sierraville to Auburn), we came on a car that clearly hadn’t negotiated the turn well. The road was definitely slick - some earlier precipitation had clearly turned to ice and there wasn’t quite enough snow to provide some traction on top of it yet. Fortunately for the car, there were some trees along the side of the curve that caught it and kept it from sliding further down the hill.

Unfortunately they didn’t turn their lights off, so we did stop to verify that there wasn’t still someone in the car, hurt. (Part of the route where there is absolutely no cell service.) mr. klys did the honors, since I was wearing flip flops. (Don’t worry, I got to wade through some slush later.) He said it was dicey enough walking on the road at that point.

It was just after this that we passed the 18 wheeler going the other direction. Needless to say we both considered that a bad idea.

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:53:44pm

re: #215 Cheechako

Back when I owned a snowmobile (in my roaring 20s) I can remember digging and winching with a tow strap attached to a tree into the night to get my sled out of sticky situations, more than a few times. I’ve even dug out many strangers’ sleds while out and about because I’m really a nice guy. One time I dug out a guy’s sled and he *insisted* on an address to send “proper thanks” as he called it at the time. I acquiesced and sure enough, the next week, there showed up in my P.O. box but an envelope with five 20s in it (bad bad idea, by the way, don’t send cash through the post!).

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teleskiguy  Dec 7, 2016 • 11:59:56pm
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Cheechako  Dec 8, 2016 • 12:07:59am

re: #217 teleskiguy

I also used snow machines in my job. The worst is stopping in deep powder without making a couple of ovals to pack the snow down so you had a solid place to stop. It’s a bitch standing in waist deep snow trying to dig out a ramp so you could blast out of the hole to get moving again.

So many good stories, so little time to tell.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 8, 2016 • 12:28:01am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 8, 2016 • 1:32:39am

The EU just granted visa-free travel to 50 million people in Ukraine and Georgia.
independent.co.uk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 1:49:55am

Back to lead topic: I never saw LGF as a “News Site”: it is a political blog that posts news stories from other sources, and generally treats them critically.

People who rely on a Facebook news feed for information all but deserve to be deceived.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:02:36am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

tweet is from March, but particularly awkward tonight…

Appreciate the chance to meet w/ Chuck Jones & hardworking men of Local 1999 about our efforts to save Carrier jobs

That was March, this is now.

Remember, DT’s most recent tweet invalidates anything else that might be relevant to that matter

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:03:04am

Why hasn’t the media called Donald out for fraternizing with someone as deranged as Alex Jones? There is no way that a Democratic President could get away with such a loony leftwing association. Donald needs to be challenged about Jones’ outrageous claims such as Secretary Clinton being a serial killer and child rapist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:16:47am

re: #188 Belafon

As thin skinned as I know Trump is, I don’t see him using nukes. For one thing, it would ruin his business opportunities. I actually don’t see him doing much about ISIS. I would argue that his crew, especially Bannon, wants an attack on US soil. All the better to go completely dictator.

“There will be no nuclear war. There’s too much real estate involved.”

-Frank Zappa

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:21:00am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“There will be no nuclear war. There’s too much real estate involved.”

-Frank Zappa

The problem is that view presumes rational actors, an assumption I am excedingly unwilling to endorse at this point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:25:04am

re: #226 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

The problem is that view presumes rational actors, an assumption I am excedingly unwilling to endorse at this point.

There is only one thing about DT that is consistent, namely that he puts his personal and business interests first.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:35:01am

As the sun rises over Manhattan, I wonder what new surprises the president-elect will offer up on Twitter today.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:35:48am

re: #228 wheat-dogg

As the sun rises over Manhattan, I wonder what new surprises the president-elect will offer up on Twitter today.

and this is one of the reasons the media helped elect him: people would not be half as fascinated about Hillary’s next utterances…

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Timothy Watson  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:37:37am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:37:59am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and this is one of the reasons the media helped elect him: people would not be half as fascinated about Hillary’s next utterances…

Well, Hillz would not be up at the crack of dawn attacking all the people attacking her, or bragging about which world leader she just spoke to on the phone. Lady’s got more class than that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 2:46:48am

re: #231 wheat-dogg

Well, Hillz would not be up at the crack of dawn attacking all the people attacking her, or bragging about which world leader she just spoke to on the phone. Lady’s got more class than that.

These were the same media who preferred to broadcast an hour of empty podium waiting for DT to appear rather than cover Hillary giving a speech on improving work opportunities for the handicapped.

Yep, it is a matter of class and taste.

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BlackPearl  Dec 8, 2016 • 3:18:20am

As always, Klys, lovely beading.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2016 • 3:25:32am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is only one thing about DT that is consistent, namely that he puts his personal and business interests first.

In today’s “news that is not news”: local reporter interviewed Bob Woodward the other day; Woodward told him that he sent a tape of an interview he had done with DT to a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist responded: “deep and disturbing case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.”

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 8, 2016 • 3:58:34am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is only one thing about DT that is consistent, namely that he puts his personal and business interests first.

Yes, but I have no confidence in his ability to accurately gauge what those interests actually are. His business career is a litany of instances where Trump failed to understand what was the smart thing to do.

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otoc  Dec 8, 2016 • 4:06:47am

Welcome to Orwell’s vision and congrats to LGF!

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wheat-dogg  Dec 8, 2016 • 4:28:53am

re: #234 Barefoot Grin

In today’s “news that is not news”: local reporter interviewed Bob Woodward the other day; Woodward told him that he sent a tape of an interview he had done with DT to a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist responded: “deep and disturbing case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.”

I’m not a shrink, and I could have diagnosed that. Trump is a mental case, and he has surrounded himself with sycophants who would not ever dare to contradict his directives. Maybe they can manipulate him, as KellyAnne seems to be able to do, but he’s been able to run things his way for most of his adult life. I doubt this modern-day Caligula can be controlled.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 4:40:35am

re: #144 Scout

I’ve got no doubt whatsoever that Trump will launch a war of choice before 2017 is over.

My bet is it will be against Iran, but there’s a whole world of choices for him.

Scotland.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2016 • 4:41:42am

Morning Lizardos…….
Cold and windy in The Austin area.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 8, 2016 • 4:43:47am

Then this possibility, too. Signs of dementia.

Imagine if you can someone with dementia and NPD. My ex-wife’s grandma had dementia, and judging from her son’s description of her as his mother, she was probably narcissistic, too. When my ex and I “babysat” grandma one weekend, she got into her head that there were intruders outside the house who were going to come in and do terrible things to her. When I resisted, and told her there was no one outside — we were on a very quiet street — she went after me with a broom handle. No damage done to me or grandma, but it was … interesting … to say the least.

Now imagine that kind of person as leader of the USA, commander-in-chief of the armed forces, with access to the nuclear football, the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, etc.

We’ve said it here before. If you compare Trump’s current disjointed, rambling speech patterns to when he was younger and better spoken, there is a marked difference.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 4:59:38am

re: #240 wheat-dogg

Then this possibility, too. Signs of dementia.

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Imagine if you can someone with dementia and NPD. My ex-wife’s grandma had dementia, and judging from her son’s description of her as his mother, she was probably narcissistic, too. When my ex and I “babysat” grandma one weekend, she got into her head that there were intruders outside the house who were going to come in and do terrible things to her. When I resisted, and told her there was no one outside — we were on a very quiet street — she went after me with a broom handle. No damage done to me or grandma, but it was … interesting … to say the least.

Now imagine that kind of person as leader of the USA, commander-in-chief of the armed forces, with access to the nuclear football, the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, etc.

We’ve said it here before. If you compare Trump’s current disjointed, rambling speech patterns to when he was younger and better spoken, there is a marked difference.

Propane Jane is a mental health professional. She knows the symptoms and the warning signs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:00:35am

Cat or Ice Cream Soda?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:03:37am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:05:31am

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

Propane Jane is a mental health professional. She knows the symptoms and the warning signs.

I know. Aside from his obvious disdain for the press, Trump (or his kids) may fear putting him in front of a noisy press corps for a press conference would overwhelm him and reveal to everyone his fragile mental state. He could either go catatonic or spew a profanity-laced tirade. Either would be really bad optics, ever for his supporters. Trump’s only meetings with the press so far have been on his turf, following his rules. I doubt this pattern will change. He’s not coachable like Reagan or W was.

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jeffreyw  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:23:19am

Imgur


Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:41:35am
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Joe Bacon  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:42:24am

Dinner last night—Mongolian Beef

No rice on the side, so gooooood!

from the Twin Dragon in Los Angeles…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:45:33am
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darthstar  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:45:44am

re: #247 Joe Bacon

Dinner last night—Mongolian Beef

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from the Twin Dragon in Los Angeles…

Eartha ate kibble.

Oh, and I pan roasted a couple of pork chops with baked delicato sqash and arugula, fennel and avocado salad.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:46:19am

re: #28 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Every time I see your name (and, I know you mean the alien) I can’t help thinking of this song. I don’t play WoW anymore, but as retired Horde, I still love it.

World of Warcraft - The Great Kodo

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:46:53am

re: #247 Joe Bacon

But that is a good lookin’ dish of Mongo beef.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:57:37am

re: #249 darthstar

Eartha ate kibble.

Oh, and I pan roasted a couple of pork chops with baked delicato sqash and arugula, fennel and avocado salad.

Nice Laguoile stake knife.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 5:58:14am

Welp, there goes freedom

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:04:03am

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, there goes freedom

That’s why I’m donating to the ACLU.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:07:52am

re: #254 Belafon

That’s why I’m donating to the ACLU.

I am not a Constitutional lawyer but that seems to be a direct violation of the 1A Right of the People to Assemble

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:11:15am

Because the stupid, it burns.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:13:53am

re: #255 The Vicious Babushka

I am not a Constitutional lawyer but that seems to be a direct violation of the 1A Right of the People to Assemble

It is, and hopefully it fails to make it all the way through, but when they are passed, someone will have to challenge them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:17:23am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:18:53am

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, there goes freedom

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Do they know they just criminalize abortion clinic protesters?

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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:20:26am

re: #259 Timothy Watson

Separate justice systems…one for the Jesus-impaired, and one for the Jesusers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:21:22am

re: #259 Timothy Watson

Do they know they just criminalize abortion clinic protesters?

There will be no need to protest once all the abortion clinics are shut down.//

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:22:24am
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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:24:58am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The weather here is about to turn wintry - with temperatures that actually are appropriate for this time of year for the first time in months (we’ve been warmer than normal for most of the year, and drier too, which is why most of the region is in drought conditions).

So of course Trump picked a guy who doesn’t believe climate change is real, and who’d roll back environmental protections because he doesn’t like how they restrict the ability of Oklahoma based power plants to emit pollutants that affect everyone downwind.

The Trump cabal seems to all about picking people who are antithetical to the purpose of the agency they are nominated to run.

Or are incompetent/inexperienced to run.

Or ineligible to run without waivers.

Out of everyone who he’s nominated thus far, the only one who seems to have any experience running a cabinet level agency with any measurable experience is Chao for Transportation, though her experience also included relaxing safety regulations on businesses.

Oh, and Trump’s cabal is thus far all multimillionaires and billionaires or generals. That’s hardly the kind of anti-establishment one would think of. But Trump supporters don’t seem to care about any of this. They never did.

Trump will try to burn the federal government to the ground to the applause of his supporters (and a significant portion of the GOP who think the federal government is too powerful and does too much - like trying to protect the General Welfare under Art 1, Sec 8), while everyone else tries to figure out how to recover.

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CriticalDragon1177  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:29:30am

Congratulations Charles Johnson! I have feeling this will have the exact opposite effect that Alex Jones intended. Even more people should visit our site now!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:30:36am

re: #263 lawhawk

Trump will try to burn the federal government to the ground to the applause of his supporters (and a significant portion of the GOP who think the federal government is too powerful and does too much - like trying to protect the General Welfare under Art 1, Sec 8), while everyone else tries to figure out how to recover.

I am sure they will all be thrilled when they lose their Medicare.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:32:33am
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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:36:52am

Reality has a liberal bias. Trump, Breitbart, Jones and the entire batshit right are headed for a disaster of Biblical dimensions. The only question now is how much collateral damage will be incurred on the process.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:37:16am

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:40:48am

re: #268 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:44:19am

How many did Donny Jr. & Eric kill?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:44:52am

Always knew we could make an Alex Jones list if we tried really hard enough!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:46:21am

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, there goes freedom

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Do Dems at least control the state Senate?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:49:15am

Military-Trained Police May Be Less Hasty To Shoot, But That Got This Vet Fired

“My ex-boyfriend’s here. He has a gun. He doesn’t have a clip in the gun. There’s no clip in the gun. He’s drunk. He’s drunk. He took the clip out of the gun and he said he was going to threaten the police with it just so they would shoot him. He does not have a clip in the gun.”
On the 911 tape you hear Officer Mader on the radio saying, “We have a gun here.” All the dispatcher said to the cops is this: “Watch out for a weapon.”

Mader drew his weapon and told Williams to drop the pistol.

“Aim in on him, and I say, ‘Drop your gun. Drop your gun,’ ” Mader told NPR. “And he said, ‘I can’t do that. Just shoot me.’ And I told him, I said, ‘I’m not gonna shoot you, brother — just put down the gun.’ “

So even though Mader didn’t know what Williams’ girlfriend told 911 — that the gun was empty and the man was trying to commit “suicide by cop” — Mader didn’t shoot.

Police get trained on de-escalation, but in that moment Mader was leaning more on training from the Marine Corps and experience in Afghanistan. That knowledge can be a key difference between police officers with military backgrounds and those without.

seems the fellow wanted to commit suicide by cop and the officer failed to oblige him, for which disciplinary action was taken.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:49:37am

re: #272 Sir John Barron

Do Dems at least control the state Senate?

No.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:51:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:55:32am

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

“In the name of security to a threat that does not exist, we are creating an actual assault on our freedom to vote.

There is only one solution to this: a national citizen voter ID along with a national legal resident alien ID

Any other solution will simply kick the can down the road and create other problems

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:56:56am

Yes, 2016 continues to suck something awful. Yet another musical legend passed away. Greg Lake was one of the cornerstones of prog rock and his talents were on display both as members of King Crimson and ELP as well as his solo career. I got to meet ELP way back during the Black Moon tour and the band was extremely gracious with their time.

Emerson committed suicide earlier this year.

I Believe In Father Christmas - single by Greg Lake

That happens to be the best Christmas song from the past couple of decades IMO. It highlights his lyrical and playing abilities (and is actually an attack on the craven materialism that has taken over the season).

Emerson, Lake & Palmer-Toccata (California Jam 1974, remastered by RudenkoArt)

ELP / Karn Evil 9 1st Impression Part 2 / 1974 California Jam

Those latter two are from the glory days of ELP.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:58:28am

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

No.

Well that sucks.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:58:30am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The opposite from the lesson that should be learned. This officer should have gotten a commendation and allowed to help train fellow officers in deescalating situations. Not fired.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:58:54am

re: #269 lawhawk

Car makers see value added in safety and fuel efficiency because their customers do. For every half-wit who wants to roll coal with their F-150, there are many more who want clear air and safe drives and no desire to look like an adolescent man-child.

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Franklin  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:59:21am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mader said he still wants to be a cop and wishes things hadn’t happened so quickly that night.

“If I had maybe 30 more seconds, maybe it would’ve went different,” Mader said. “Maybe I could have talked him down and just put him in handcuffs that night.”

Wow

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 6:59:58am

re: #280 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Car makers see value added in safety and fuel efficiency because their customers do. For every half-wit who wants to roll coal with their F-150, there are many more who want clear air and safe drives and no desire to look like an adolescent man-child.

CUSTOMER SERVICE TIP OF THE DAY: Modifying the diesel engine on an F-150 to “roll coal” voids the warranty.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:02:40am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:03:38am

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

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What’s the big deal about a voter-ID? Just bring your ID, libtard!

OK, here is a photo-ID from the City of Detroit.

No, not that one. Easy to fake.

OK, here is my university ID.

No, not that one. We see video of people making fake voter IDs all the time!

OK, here is my workplace photo ID.

No, not allowed. Not official enough.

That’s all the ID’s I have. What am I supposed to do?

Bring your Driver’s License, libtard!

I don’t drive.

Too bad! Buy a gun and get an NRA photo ID!

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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:05:53am

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

DON’T TELL THE DEPLORABLEZ THAT

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:08:45am

6.8 magnitude quake hits off CA coast. It’s relatively shallow too - 10km but isn’t likely to cause a tsunami. The US Tsunami Warning Center did not issue a warning for AK, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, or California based on the location/depth, and historical data. Likewise, the Pacific tsunami warning center did not issue a warning for Hawaii, considering the quake not likely to cause a tsunami.

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:09:34am

re: #277 lawhawk

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Yes, 2016 continues to suck something awful. Yet another musical legend passed away. Greg Lake was one of the cornerstones of prog rock and his talents were on display both as members of King Crimson and ELP as well as his solo career. I got to meet ELP way back during the Black Moon tour and the band was extremely gracious with their time.

Emerson committed suicide earlier this year.

I do believe I’ve had enough. RIP, Greg. And again, fuck you 2016.

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:14:30am

re: #277 lawhawk

Fun fact about those drums Carl Palmer is playing in those videos - he had them custom built, with brass shells. Normal drum shells are made of wood.

The drums were so heavy that instead of making the drum techs set them up and tear them down at every show, they were assembled once on a custom riser and a road case was built to just cover the entire kit. It was then moved on and off the gear truck via fork lift.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:19:21am

Good morning, y’all.

It’s -8F degrees outside in Western Nebraska, and the wind chill is -20F. Great day to start a road trip to California (with a winter storm warning in Wyoming and Utah).

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:22:48am

Something slightly more uplifting - the Christmas lights of Dyker Heights, Brooklyn.

If you’re in the NYC metro area, it’s worth the trip to walk/drive around the area during the holiday season. Just pack some patience, since everyone else has the same idea.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:23:42am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is only one solution to this: a national citizen voter ID along with a national legal resident alien ID

Any other solution will simply kick the can down the road and create other problems

And the Evangelical (and many other Christians’) response:

It’s the Mark of the Beast!onee!!!!!eleventy!!uno22!!!

On the other hand, if they didn’t want to come out and vote because of it …

Of course, with the GOP in charge, such a plan would never see the light of day, or if it did, the cost would have to be offset with cuts to food stamps or something (and adding another DOD weapons programme)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:27:54am

re: #279 lawhawk

The opposite from the lesson that should be learned. This officer should have gotten a commendation and allowed to help train fellow officers in deescalating situations. Not fired.

It says a lot about the culture of law enforcement in this country

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:31:17am

Leo got fucked with a chainsaw==>

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:32:20am

re: #291 Anymouse

And the Evangelical (and many other Christian’s) response:

It’s the Mark of the Beast!onee!!!!!eleventy!!uno22!!!

On the other hand, if they didn’t want to come out and vote because of it …

Of course, with the GOP in charge, such a plan would never see the light of day, or if it did, the cost would have to be offset with cuts to food stamps or something (and adding another DOD weapons programme)

Even though it would be easily offset in reduced abuse of social services, as well as less need for monitoring illegal immigration and illegal labor.

But I am only painting castles in the sky: even the extreme left would oppose it on grounds of encroaching police statism.

The point is, we have a party that sees increased voter participation a net-loss proposition. They just won an election based on that approach and are not about to change it until demographics overwhelmingly catch up with them.

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Citizen K  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:40:04am
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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:40:40am

The GOP and right wingers want to roll back womens’ rights, and they think banning abortion is somehow giving them back a voice.

Nope. That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.

They already have a voice and a choice. They can choose not to have abortions. But they shouldn’t have any right to tell other women they cannot get an abortion (or get access to birth control or reproductive health care), and the GOP efforts to roll back health care reform also shows they don’t care about being pro life so much as being forced birth.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:43:45am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even though it would be easily offset in reduced abuse of social services, as well as less need for monitoring illegal immigration and illegal labor.

But I am only painting castles in the sky: even the extreme left would oppose it on grounds of encroaching police statism.

The point is, we have a party that sees increased voter participation a net-loss proposition. They just won an election based on that approach and are not about to change it until demographics overwhelmingly catch up with them.

And of course the GOP seems to be of the opinion that an undocumented immigrant is going to risk thousands of dollars of fines, jail time, and deportation to cast a single vote (and that person would automatically vote for a Democratic candidate).

Even in my tiny village one vote would have never swung an election. (The closest I have been able to find in making this argument is the 2014 election here where I won by four votes. I even helped the guy who I lost to find the information so he could mount a challenge and recount, which did not change the result.) To the best of my knowledge, there are no people here that could cast an illegal vote (other than teenagers).

The easiest way I could see to do it would be to steal someone’s mail ballot (we have mail voting just like they do in the People’s Republic of Oregon).

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:47:36am

re: #10 lawhawk

Breitbart, Infowars, and Prison Planet. National Enquirer too. IOW, all the conspiracy sites are legit - and legit news sites are fake.

Up is down. Right is wrong. Facts are lies. And Fake is True.

Bat boy agrees!

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:48:53am

re: #296 lawhawk

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The GOP and right wingers want to roll back womens’ rights, and they think banning abortion is somehow giving them back a voice.

Nope. That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.

In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy.

- some guy who wrote a fictional book about a fascist state. /s

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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:49:03am

re: #298 Eventual Carrion

Bat Boy is from the now-defunct Weekly World News.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:50:15am
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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:51:42am

re: #300 Jayleia

Bat Boy is from the now-defunct Weekly World News.

Weekly World News is not defunct, they only do not print a newspaper copy any more (just like The Onion - I miss my national print edition of that in the mailbox - I still have a copy of the last edition).

Weekly World News is available here:
weeklyworldnews.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:51:52am

re: #301 lawhawk

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What a putz.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:53:39am

Donald Trump Buys Scranton to save it from its financial woes:
weeklyworldnews.com

Megyn Kelly Leaving FOX to Focus on Modelling Career:
weeklyworldnews.com

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:53:41am

Which is easy to claim when right wing domestic terrorists are considered lone wolves, or mentally ill, or other excuses made to not identify them as terrorists. After all, the shooter of the Planned Parenthood clinic was a right wing domestic terrorist, but wasn’t charged as such.

Same goes with the Charleston church shooter. Etc.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:54:29am

re: #301 lawhawk

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Carl’s Jr.? Really? So the world gets thrown another Idiocracy reference at random, after a pro wrestling appointment?

Is this a deflection from something else?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:57:40am

re: #306 Pawn of the Oppressor

Carl’s Jr.? Really? So the world gets thrown another Idiocracy reference at random, after a pro wrestling appointment?

Is this a deflection from something else?

He is the guy who wants to get rid of all fast food workers, replace them with robots: have completely labor-free restaurants.

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:58:05am

re: #252 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Nice Laguoile stake knife.

Thanks…since we went to France 10 years ago we’ve been all Laguoile wherever possible. I used to have a great pocket knife…TSA got it.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:58:12am
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Citizen K  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:58:24am

re: #307 The Vicious Babushka

He is the guy who wants to get rid of all fast food workers, replace them with robots: have completely labor-free restaurants.

He’s a labor secretary who hates labor and laborers.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:58:53am

Don’t worry folks, right-wing terrorist only “wanted to do some good”:

The man who fired a gun inside Comet Ping Pong on Sunday said in an interview that he “wanted to do some good, and went about it the wrong way.”

Edgar Maddison Welch, 28, of North Carolina, said in a video interview with The New York Times published Thursday that he drove to D.C. on Sunday intending to take a “closer look” at the restaurant, then return home.

Comet was the focus of a fake news story that claimed a child sex ring was being run in the basement of the restaurant, owned by a man who has been connected with Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

Welch said he wanted to “shine some light” on what was said to be going on at Comet, but confessed to The Times that “the intel on this wasn’t 100 percent.” Still, he wouldn’t say the claims in the articles were totally false, saying only that there were no children being abused “inside that dwelling.”

wtop.com

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:58:56am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:01:57am
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plansbandc  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:02:27am

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:03:12am

Donald Trump tweets Carrier union leader on Twitter now causing him to get threats.
washingtonpost.com

Half an hour after Trump tweeted about Jones on Wednesday, the union leader’s phone began to ring and kept ringing, he said. One voice asked: What kind of car do you drive? Another said: We’re coming for you.

He wasn’t sure how these people found his number.

“Nothing that says they’re gonna kill me, but, you know, you better keep your eye on your kids,” Jones said later on MSNBC. “We know what car you drive. Things along those lines.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:03:23am

re: #313 Dave In Austin

Minimum Wage For All!!! Take that Libtards!!

What kind of radical do you take him for? HE WANTS TO ABOLISH THE MINIMUM WAGE!!!

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:03:46am

re: #153 Anymouse

Man kills ex-girlfriend’s children and critically wounds her, before apparently committing suicide.

The Albuquerque police say he broke into her home after she refused Christmas presents for her children from him, and attacked them when they came home from an outing in an ambush. The police also say the mother attempted to save one of her children, though the article does not specify how.

The eldest child was nine.

huffingtonpost.com

Damn.

This kind of domestic shooting/killing happens all too often.

But lets not worry about guns in these situations when we need to worry about our borders and terrorism. Problems from outside this country are a lot bigger than the problems inside out country. ///x100+

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Timothy Watson  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:05:29am

re: #310 Citizen K

He’s a labor secretary who hates labor and laborers.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:06:25am

re: #311 Timothy Watson

Don’t worry folks, right-wing terrorist only “wanted to do some good”:

wtop.com

Still, he wouldn’t say the claims in the articles were totally false, saying only that there were no children being abused “inside that dwelling.”

See, this is the kind of bullshit that makes me see red. Why would they even include that in the article/interview? Who gives a flying fuck about the “news analysis” of this little creep?

Furthermore, the media have now made the asshole a celebrity. WaPo ran a L-O-N-G love letter, with interviews from everyone the guy has known since childhood singing his praises—why? To what end? (rhetorical question—of course, to gain sympathy for his white ass.) Couldn’t they have put their time to better use doing something else, like, you know, reporting on something that actually matters instead of tracking down this loser’s auntie to tell us what a sweet, gentle person he was. Arrggh.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:07:03am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What kind of radical do you take him for? HE WANTS TO ABOLISH THE MINIMUM WAGE!!!

Fuck….. Just when ya thought it couldn’t get worse.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:07:54am
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), supposedly on a growing shortlist to become secretary of state, said Wednesday that “the Chinese are not our friends” and strongly suggested a better relationship with Russia would be “a good thing.”

In a fiery interview with Yahoo News and Finance anchor Bianna Golodryga, Rohrabacher toed a similar line to President-elect Donald Trump when he said it would be better to cooperate with Russia and “actually take on real enemies.”

“If it’s right for us to join in and cooperate and have a better relationship with Russia in order to defeat radical Islam and to pull China back a bit, well that’s a good thing, and that’s what this is all about,” said Rohrabacher, whom Politico once called Russian President Vladimir Putin’s “favorite congressman.”

huffingtonpost.com

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:11:13am

re: #321 Anymouse

After the interview with Bianna Golodryga putting Putin of the same playing field as Gorbachev, I think Dana shot himself in the foot.

huffingtonpost.com

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:15:16am

Refresh 322

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:15:39am
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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:16:46am

re: #322 Dave In Austin

After the interview with Bianna Golodryga putting Putin of the same playing field as Gorbachev, I think Dana shot himself in the foot.

huffingtonpost.com

Not necessarily: Facts to conservatives are whatever they say they are.

You’ll note in the commentary on that article people pushing the idea that China is the biggest holder of our debt, that only Russia has nukes besides us, &c &c

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:18:31am

I wonder what Trump’s people are doing to the Electors right now. Loyalty Oaths? Veiled threats? Outright bribery? It’s been awfully quiet, considering that the EC is literally the last thing standing between Dump and his people gaining power.

“Nice life you have there. Shame if it were to be ruined by someone publishing your name, address, e-mail, phone number, photograph, daily schedule, and an insinuation of pedophilia and homosexuality on 8chan and Reddit…”

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:26:55am

From the Washington Post about Pizzagate:

An oddly disproportionate share of the tweets about Pizzagate appear to have come from, of all places, the Czech Republic, Cyprus and Vietnam, said Jonathan Albright, an assistant professor of media analytics at Elon University in North Carolina. In some cases, the most avid retweeters appeared to be bots, programs designed to amplify certain news and information.

“What bots are doing is really getting this thing trending on Twitter,” Albright said. “These bots are providing the online crowds that are providing legitimacy.”

Online, the more something is retweeted or otherwise shared, the more prominently it appears in social media and on sites that track “trending” news. As the bots joined ordinary Twitter users in pushing out Pizzagate-related rumors, the notion spread like wildfire. Who programmed the bots to focus on that topic remains unknown.

Two things:
1. How are the bots going to feel when Republicans outsource to cheaper bots in the future?
2. I think the bots need to be shut down. It’ll probably reduce Trump’s likes on his tweets to double digits.

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scottslemmons  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:27:27am

Have all of Trump’s nominees been cartoonishly opposed to the agency they’ve been put in charge of? It’s discouraging that all these will have to be rebuilt if the Dems ever get back into office.

Who’s Trump going to put in charge of the Secret Service?, he asked, expecting the answer “John Hinckley.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:28:37am

Well, Hinkley has been released from St. Elizabeth’s.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:29:28am

nytimes.com

Reported Donald and Ivanka Trump will not disengage from their business interests.

Because of course they won’t.

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Interesting Times  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:30:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:31:53am

re: #320 Dave In Austin

Fuck….. Just when ya thought it couldn’t get worse.

I never thought that. In fact, the only thought that keeps me limping along is the knowledge that it will have to get worse, much worse, even, before it can start to get any better.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:35:54am

I’m waiting for who he puts in to end those taker disabled veterans from mooching off the government.

The Tundra Grifter doesn’t seem to be it, probably isn’t heartless enough.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:36:38am

re: #255 The Vicious Babushka

I am not a Constitutional lawyer but that seems to be a direct violation of the 1A Right of the People to Assemble

No time to think the GOP is actually concerned about the US Constitution being upheld. They just say that. Only Dems and others need to stick to the Constitution. The GOP is special!

Fuckers. They are out to prove they really are the fascists.

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Interesting Times  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:38:04am

So here’s a useful tool to get an idea of what could happen in the next few years:

nuclearsecrecy.com

Uses Google Maps to help you choose a city and see the fallout/damage/causalities from various nuclear weapons.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:38:17am

re: #261 The Vicious Babushka

There will be no need to protest once all the abortion clinics are shut down.//

Like apparently is underway here in Ohio.

KASICH!!!

And so many thought he was the mild Republican.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:38:41am
So, in among the nine million possible candidates for secretary of State is one new name that Rachel Maddow thinks hasn’t gotten nearly enough attention: Rex Tillerson, the current CEO of Exxon Mobil. Donald Trump likes him enough that when Matt Lauer was trying to get Trump to talk about whether Mitt Romney is still on the list, Trump suggested that Lauer really should ask about Tillerson — which Lauer wasn’t all that interested in doing. Watch this clip from Wednesday’s Rachel Maddow Show (above) and see if you don’t find yourself more than a little bit nervous about a conflict of interest that could almost eclipse Trump’s: Tillerson signed what would have been a $500 billion oil exploration deal between Exxon and Russia’s state-owned oil company, Rosneft. That achievement won Tillerson Russia’s top honor for foreigners, the “Order of Friendship” — awarded by Vladimir Putin, not Princess Twilight Sparkle. The oil deal fell apart when the U.S. imposed sanctions on Russia following the invasion of Crimea. Hey, what might happen to those sanctions if the guy who signed that $500 billion (with a b) deal got confirmed as secretary of State?

Oh, should we mention that, in his adult life, Mr. Tillerson has never worked anywhere but Exxon?

The rest at Wonkette (now on Alex Jones’s list of fake news sites along with our esteemed host’s Website here), including video from The Rachel Maddow Show.

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retired cynic  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:40:55am

re: #310 Citizen K

He’s a labor secretary who hates labor and laborers.

That fits the standard DT is setting for all departments for the social good. The education secretary must hate public education. The labor secretary must hate labor. The hud secretary must hate public housing. The hhus secretary must hate public health. On and on. If they don’t want to destroy their department, they don’t qualify. Seems to me to be the hand of Bannon.

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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:41:13am

re: #336 ObserverArt

And so many thought he was the mild Republican.

Well, he is mild, the others are Hot, Fire, and Diablo…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:44:34am

(Arriving late to the party, AGAIN)

Boy, Charles, Josh Marshall is probably JEALOUS that LGF made the list and TPM didn’t! I mean, LGF is just you and us Lizards, while he’s got a whole operation with reporters and commentators and a payroll and shit.

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Citizen K  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:47:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:49:08am

re: #338 retired cynic

That fits the standard DT is setting for all departments for the social good. The education secretary must hate public education. The labor secretary must hate labor. The hud secretary must hate public housing. The hhus secretary must hate public health. On and on. If they don’t want to destroy their department, they don’t qualify. Seems to me to be the hand of Bannon.

and the spirit of Lenin

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:50:18am

Time for me to leave. The cat won’t take himself to Scottsbluff, and the car won’t drive itself to California.

Time to shut down the computer … bye y’all …

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:55:30am

re: #277 lawhawk

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Yes, 2016 continues to suck something awful. Yet another musical legend passed away. Greg Lake was one of the cornerstones of prog rock and his talents were on display both as members of King Crimson and ELP as well as his solo career. I got to meet ELP way back during the Black Moon tour and the band was extremely gracious with their time.

Emerson committed suicide earlier this year.

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Those latter two are from the glory days of ELP.

Well hell. Another great passes. This is getting tough…and a constant reminder of my own age. I has a sad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:57:25am

re: #344 ObserverArt

Well hell. Another great passes. This is getting tough…and a constant reminder of my own age. I has a sad.

ELP’s “Trilogy” was one of the very first albums in my first LP collection when I was a freshman in high school.

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:04:26am

re: #343 Anymouse

Time for me to leave. The cat won’t take himself to Scottsbluff, and the car won’t drive itself to California.

Time to shut down the computer … bye y’all …

Be careful out there, AM!

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:09:19am

I’m going to put together a letter to the editor for the Dallas Morning News documenting all of Trump’s picks and what they would like to do to the departments they are going to become part of. This will be a plea to everyone to contact their congress people and tell them to oppose the nominations.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:18:42am

Trump’s pick thinks that restaurants are suffering because of Obamacare. That’s BS of course, but Trump’s picks specialize in baffling with BS, because the facts are never in their favor.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:19:55am

A “scorecard” of sorts:

operationveracity.com

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Timothy Watson  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:20:09am

re: #348 lawhawk

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Trump’s pick thinks that restaurants are suffering because of Obamacare. That’s BS of course, but Trump’s picks specialize in baffling with BS, because the facts are never in their favor.

Only if you consider Hardee’s or Carl’s Jr. “restaurants”.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:21:33am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

ELP’s “Trilogy” was one of the very first albums in my first LP collection when I was a freshman in high school.

I got to see them on their Tarkus album tour. It was fanatastic. I’ll never forget seeing all the speaker cabinets surrounding the entire auditorium so they could achieve full surround sound for all their effects. And all the stage equipment…for two actual electric musicians…Emerson and Lake.

Damn…those were some great times music wise. The time before disco and over-the-top bullshit.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:21:47am

re: #348 lawhawk

Trump’s pick thinks that restaurants are suffering because of Obamacare. That’s BS of course, but Trump’s picks specialize in baffling with BS, because the facts are never in their favor.

The dip is probably because incomes are rising, and they can choose something better. Plus, around here, I suspect In-N-Out put a serious dent in their business.

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electrotek  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:23:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:26:18am

re: #353 electrotek

Interesting story about the only US politician to vote against war with Japan

The kicker? She was a Republican.

If she were still around, Trump would name her Secretary of Defense.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:28:28am

re: #352 Belafon

The dip is probably because incomes are rising, and they can choose something better. Plus, around here, I suspect In-N-Out put a serious dent in their business.

In-N-Out vs Hardee’s or Carl’s Jr.? No contest whatsoever - In-N-Out for the win. One of my students was in CA a couple of months ago and she went to In-N-Out on my recommendation (even though she’s not really into fast food) and now she can’t stop talking about it, LOL.

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electrotek  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:28:56am

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In spite of her vote against war, her life seems to be more honorable than the current crop of Republican women currently.

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:29:32am

I thought this was a fucking blog. I’ve been on a fake news site?

That explains why I saw the Lindberg baby on my commute this morning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:30:34am

re: #357 darthstar

I thought this was a fucking blog. I’ve been on a fake news site?

That explains why I saw the Lindberg baby on my commute this morning.

that is a major joke. this is a blog site that sometimes posts and discusses news items, often in a highly critical manner.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:30:58am

re: #357 darthstar

I thought this was a fucking blog. I’ve been on a fake news site?

That explains why I saw the Lindberg baby on my commute this morning.

What was he driving? Something nice, I bet.

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:32:12am

re: #359 Dr Lizardo

What was he driving? Something nice, I bet.

Fucking Prius.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:33:53am

re: #360 darthstar

Fucking Prius.

LOL

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:33:58am

re: #357 darthstar

I thought this was a fucking blog. I’ve been on a fake news site?

That explains why I saw the Lindberg baby on my commute this morning.

Just listen to Alex Jones. He’s the only Truth-teller out there. Not even Fox News can be trusted.

////

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:34:21am

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a major joke. this is a blog site that sometimes posts and discusses news items, often in a highly critical manner.

Well, Charles has helped break some news that has been especially tough on wingnut bullshit and their sites spreading it…so in the mind of a ‘nut that is all it takes to get rewarded as a fake news site.

It’s quite laughable…but here we are…strange times.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:35:19am

So, I guess the rule/political norm about having retired generals sit out a period before returning to government service doesn’t mean anything now, either?

//

They’re about half of drump’s cabinet.

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allegro  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:37:12am

I am freezing my butt off. My new electric fireplace is being delivered today. Until it gets here I will continue to freeze my butt off. Maybe then too I will be able to talk my dog into getting out of bed.

That is all.

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allegro  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:44:04am

re: #364 Sir John Barron

So, I guess the rule/political norm about having retired generals sit out a period before returning to government service doesn’t mean anything now, either?

//

They’re about half of drump’s cabinet.

I’m not seeing anything important to us as a country meaning anything after 1/20/17. Nauseating innit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:45:50am

re: #366 allegro

I’m not seeing anything important to us as a country meaning anything after 1/20/17. Nauseating innit.

I suspect that DT will have some serious surprises up his sleeve. Not necessarily pleasant ones, but at least ones that will keep the media happily occupied…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:47:56am

re: #348 lawhawk

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Trump’s pick thinks that restaurants are suffering because of Obamacare. That’s BS of course, but Trump’s picks specialize in baffling with BS, because the facts are never in their favor.

Actually Putzer thinks restaurants are suffering because they have to pay the people who work there instead of making them work for tips (which are paid by the customer)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:48:44am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

Actually Putzer thinks restaurants are suffering because they have to pay the people who work there instead of making them work for tips (which are paid by the customer)

By that logic, Europe should be a wasteland devoid of any decent restaurants…

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allegro  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:49:03am

re: #367 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect that DT will have some serious surprises up his sleeve. Not necessarily pleasant ones, but at least ones that will keep the media happily occupied…

The media will have to be happy to do that without my eyeballs. I won’t watch cable news anymore.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:51:21am

re: #370 allegro

The media will have to be happy to do that without my eyeballs. I won’t watch cable news anymore.

I stopped watching it ages ago, but recall last summer when my relatives were visiting and watching CNN…DT got up and announced that his rallies were exciting while people were falling asleep at Jeb Bush rallies.

Twenty minutes later, CNN airs an interview with a woman who had fallen asleep at a Jeb! rally.

It was then that I realized that CNN kills more than brain cells

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:58:38am

re: #327 Belafon

From the Washington Post about Pizzagate:

Two things:
1. How are the bots going to feel when Republicans outsource to cheaper bots in the future?
2. I think the bots need to be shut down. It’ll probably reduce Trump’s likes on his tweets to double digits.

Interesting article about the pizza bullshit story from the Star (combo article by WaPo and Star)—highlights (lowlights)

a stay-at-home mom and writer in Belleville, Ont…Stefanie MacWilliams, a contributor to Planet Free Will, wrote an article last month that took off on social media…

MacWilliams calls herself a journalist, but she does not try to be “100 per cent accurate,” either. She believes the beauty of the Internet is that people can crowdsource the truth. Eventually, what is real will emerge, she said.

Mmm hmm—I call myself the unicorn princess of Narnia, but it doesn’t mean I really am.

MacWilliams, 24, began writing for the website earlier this year and is one of its three contributors, along with owner and editor Joe Jankowski, a self-described libertarian who started the website in January as a hobby. “I would pretty much describe it as a conservative-leaning and libertarian-leaning news website,” said Jankowski, a 25-year-old who works in entertainment and lives in Pennsylvania.

OK—who is this Jankowski asshole? He calls it an news website, but it was mentioned by NYT as a fake-news purveyor.

And, here’s this guy again:

On Nov. 16, Jack Posobiec, a former Navy Reserve intelligence officer who had spent much of the previous year as a leader of a pro-Trump grassroots organization, decided he’d had enough of just reading tweets and blog posts about the pizza place in his city…Posobiec was using his phone to broadcast his evening at Comet on Periscope, an app that allows users to stream video live.

So now he’s a “former Navy Reserve intelligence officer.” I ask again, WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY AND WHAT IS HIS REAL BACKGROUND? He seems to be popping up everywhere, but I can’t find one bit of concrete info on him.

The funniest thing in the article:

Avrahaum Segol, a New Yorker who immigrated to Israel 15 years ago…found the elderly woman whose family once owned the colourful neon sign that sits over Comet’s front door… Segol called the woman and spelled out his baroque story…The woman listened to some of this, then told Segol, “You’re an idiot.” She hung up on him.

thestar.com

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:02:10am

Hmmm, what’s Wikileaks up to these days now that the election is over?

///

374
Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:02:52am

re: #373 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, what’s Wikileaks up to these days now that the election is over?

///

Trying to ruin the German election.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:03:07am

re: #373 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, what’s Wikileaks up to these days now that the election is over?

///

Julian Assange clicked his heels 3 times and said
I AM NOT A RAPIST
I AM NOT A RAPIST
I AM NOT A RAPIST

But that did not make his not a rapist.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:03:11am

re: #341 Citizen K

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Well, at least Pruitt might stop suing the EPA once he’s in charge of it?!

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:03:16am

re: #373 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, what’s Wikileaks up to these days now that the election is over?

///

Destabilizing the German government.

378
lawhawk  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:05:12am
379
scottslemmons  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:05:47am

re: #377 lawhawk

Destabilizing the German government.

I’m increasingly growing to believe that civilization is going to be killed off because we’re all too civilized and polite to be able to do anything about the nihilists and sociopaths trying to kill us all off.

380
Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:07:52am

A thought about all of those kids who protested at Texas A&M: How to we keep them engaged? I think we have a two front war here. The first is Trump’s attempt to destroy the government. The second is the attempted rise of white supremacy. These students will be helpful in stopping the movement of the Nazi movement here.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:12:18am

Some good news, by the way: dailykos.com.

Earlier this week, Republicans threatened to throw one of their patented—and very dangerous—tantrums: Allow us to ram through a special amendment to allow retired General James Mattis to serve as Donald Trump’s secretary of defense—or else we’ll shut down the government. But guess what happened? Democrats told Republicans to get bent, and the GOP meekly complied.

That’s not how it’s getting reported in D.C., though. Inexplicably, Politico’s headline claimed that Democrats “waved the white flag” on Mattis. That has it literally, exactly, and 100 percent wrong. Is it because the Beltway press can’t fathom the possibility that Democrats actually showed some spine? Or is it because they simply don’t grasp what went down?

Whatever the explanation, and whatever the traditional media prints, it’s still a win. Here’s what really took place: Led by New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Democrats said they’d filibuster a special amendment that would let Mattis take the defense secretary job even though he only retired from active duty three years ago. For very good reason, federal law requires that members of the armed forces wait seven years before taking senior defense posts, to ensure firm civilian control over the military—a bedrock foundation of democracy.

Trump and the GOP don’t care about such principles, of course, so they’re raring to pass a special piece of legislation to lift this seven-year restriction for Mattis. But with Democrats set on filibustering the amendment, Republicans then suggested they’d attach it to a must-pass spending bill that would keep the government running past Friday. In other words, give us our way on Mattis, or we’ll shut the federal government down.

The threat proved to be hollow, though. Democrats all but invited Republicans to bring it on, remembering just how poorly things went for the GOP the last time they closed down the government. And guess what? When Republicans released the text of their spending bill, the special amendment for Mattis was nowhere to be found—a victory for the Democrats.

Trump will still push Mattis next year, and he may yet get confirmed. But in order to do so, he’ll need 60 votes, rather than the usual 50 for cabinet appointees. That’ll be a much tougher lift, because Republicans will need at least eight Democrats to cross the aisle—and that’s if there are no GOP defections. But come what may, Democrats have stood up for the principle of civilian control of the military, and they scored an important win.

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retired cynic  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:14:15am

Speaking of music tragedies this year, I found this on Carl Palmer’s website: In Memory of Robert Paiste — 1932-2016 – about the famous cymbal maker.

Every year has its losses, but this is getting amazing. Or are we just now paying attention?

383
Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:15:57am

Coal Miners for Trump: Merry Christmas, you stupid sacks of shit.

Miners Protection Act pulled from continuing resolution bill

CHARLESTON, w.va. — The Miners Protection Act to address health and pension benefits for coal miners and their families will not be included in a continuing resolution bill, according to a Tuesday announcement.

Congress said the bill, which would continue to fund the federal government, only has four months of funding for those retired miners and their widows.

…..

Approximately 12,500 retired union miners and the widows of retirees stand to lose their pension and health care benefits across the nation.

Keep voting Republican, morons.

wvmetronews.com

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:17:34am

Earth’s a-poppin’. Magnitude 7.7 in the Solomon Islands, tsunami warning issued.

independent.co.uk

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:18:34am

re: #382 retired cynic

Speaking of music tragedies this year, I found this on Carl Palmer’s website: In Memory of Robert Paiste — 1932-2016 – about the famous cymbal maker.

Every year has its losses, but this is getting amazing. Or are we just now paying attention?

I think it’s two things: We know the names of a lot more people because of television and radio and the number of baby boomers, and we’re in the window where a lot of them are going to pass away.

386
Belafon  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:19:48am

re: #384 Dr Lizardo

Earth’s a-poppin’. Magnitude 7.7 in the Solomon Islands, tsunami warning issued.

independent.co.uk

My personal opinion is that the shifting water due to the melting of the caps is changing the pressure on the Pacific plate.

387
MsJ  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:24:18am

re: #384 Dr Lizardo

Earth’s a-poppin’. Magnitude 7.7 in the Solomon Islands, tsunami warning issued.

independent.co.uk

Maybe the Mayans were simply off by a few years. /

2016 really has sucked.

388
makeitstop  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:29:00am

Welp, since the incessant loading of Shockwave Flash got totally unbearable this morning and I had a (very) good week last week, I finally took the plunge and subscribed. Much better now.

Thanks, Charles, for running such an awesome site. Outside of Metafilter, yours is the only site I’d even consider subscribing to.

Don’t spend it all in one place. :)

389
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:37:48am
390
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:40:12am

At least 40 cars involved in a massive pile up in Fowlerville, Michigan. Authorities say at least 2 people are dead.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:42:44am

re: #384 Dr Lizardo

Earth’s a-poppin’. Magnitude 7.7 in the Solomon Islands, tsunami warning issued.

independent.co.uk

I don’t know why it came to me just now, but after reading your comment, I wonder, has there been any info that global warming could lead to more earthquakes due to the oceans temps rising?

I’ve read where scientists see bigger releases of methane gases in the oceans, obviously coming from the ocean floor bottoms. Makes me wonder if something like that is going on if it has effects on bed rock, etc.

After all, the whole planet is a fine tuned system, throw it off in one area and maybe it all goes off.

392
Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:46:18am

re: #391 ObserverArt

I don’t know why it came to me just now, but after reading your comment, I wonder, has there been any info that global warming could lead to more earthquakes due to the oceans temps rising?

‘ve read where scientists see bigger releases of methane gases in the oceans, obviously coming from the ocean floor bottoms. Makes me wonder if something like that is going on if it has effects on bed rock, etc.

After all, the whole planet is a fine tuned system, throw it off in one area and maybe it all goes off.

Good question. I’ve read that past eras were more geologically active, and there’s opinion that these cycles of activity come and go.

393
ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:47:01am

re: #388 makeitstop

Welp, since the incessant loading of Shockwave Flash got totally unbearable this morning and I had a (very) good week last week, I finally took the plunge and subscribed. Much better now.

Thanks, Charles, for running such an awesome site. Outside of Metafilter, yours is the only site I’d even consider subscribing to.

Don’t spend it all in one place. :)

I’m getting closer too. Thought I’d have the bucks this month…but other things took care of that. House insurance increase and property taxes going up helped that.

Yesterday the site ran great. What ever ads that were really taking the resources seemed to be gone. So far today it’s good…

394
Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:48:53am

re: #392 Dr Lizardo

Good question. I’ve read that past eras were more geologically active, and there’s opinion that these cycles of activity come and go.

We’re a marble in God’s pocket and zhe’s just adjusting the old trousers.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:48:55am
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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:49:26am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn. I don’t like seeing all those trucks bashed up in one big pile like that. Usually it means a car or three is in there too.

Sure is a cold day and the wind is not helping. I guess we aren’t going to see 30° in Columbus today….teens overnight.

397
electrotek  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:54:05am

re: #391 ObserverArt

I don’t know why it came to me just now, but after reading your comment, I wonder, has there been any info that global warming could lead to more earthquakes due to the oceans temps rising?

I’ve read where scientists see bigger releases of methane gases in the oceans, obviously coming from the ocean floor bottoms. Makes me wonder if something like that is going on if it has effects on bed rock, etc.

After all, the whole planet is a fine tuned system, throw it off in one area and maybe it all goes off.

There was a piece in the Washington Post IIRC that argued the impact of global warming it is having on the Earth’s crust. Quite possibly due to the increased volume of our ocean levels causing the stress on the tectonic plates?

398
Romantic Heretic  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:56:50am

re: #307 The Vicious Babushka

He is the guy who wants to get rid of all fast food workers, replace them with robots: have completely labor-free restaurants.

Who’s going to eat at his restaurants then?

399
Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:57:40am

More good news for Trump voters.

Last Thursday night in Cincinnati, on the first stop of his “Thank You Tour,” Trump said his infrastructure plan would follow two simple rules: “Buy American and hire American. We’re going to do it ourselves.” However, on Friday, the media reported that Speaker Ryan was leading a push to remove the Buy America reform from Water Resources Development Act (WRDA). Senator Baldwin joined a bipartisan a group of 25 Senators in sending a letter to House and Senate leaders calling for her Buy America provision to be put back into the final bill to support U.S. steel and iron workers and manufacturers.

Folks, you’re being sold down the river. I feel for you because selling you down the river is not good for the country. It never was. It is not immigrants who are selling you down the river. It is not minorities who are selling you down the river. It is not LGBTQ folks who are selling you down the river. Please remember all of that when you wake up pissed that you’re, you know, down the river. If you look around the table and can’t figure out who the mark is…

esquire.com

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:59:03am

re: #317 ObserverArt

Damn.

This kind of domestic shooting/killing happens all too often.

But lets not worry about guns in these situations when we need to worry about our borders and terrorism. Problems from outside this country are a lot bigger than the problems inside out country. ///x100+

More human sacrifices to water the Tree of Liberty.

401
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:02:16am

Fun fact: most immigrants don’t really like guns.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:02:27am

re: #399 Skip Intro

More good news for Trump voters.

esquire.com

That’s just fantastic.

/

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:02:53am
404
Amory Blaine  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:05:10am

I have to take the contrarian view here. I think we’ll look back on 2016 as one of the “good ol’ days”.

405
The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:11:50am

IOKIYAR

406
ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:21:08am

re: #404 Amory Blaine

I have to take the contrarian view here. I think we’ll look back on 2016 as one of the “good ol’ days”.

By contrast with what may be coming VIA Trump you may be correct.

407
makeitstop  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:27:38am

re: #393 ObserverArt

I’m getting closer too. Thought I’d have the bucks this month…but other things took care of that. House insurance increase and property taxes going up helped that.

Yesterday the site ran great. What ever ads that were really taking the resources seemed to be gone. So far today it’s good…

It was up and down for me, even in the space of a day! I think it has to do with how ads are served up - some posts sail right along, some just sit there and don’t move.

I usually ill the Flash plugin through Chrome’s Task Manager and all is good. This thread kept reloading Flash over and over and over and over…

It’s worth the dough to not have to do that for a year.

408
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 8, 2016 • 12:02:36pm

re: #233 BlackPearl

p7qNJzjLSeUbk++EB88orQIoJQzzOGCgqg+ZTm5IUafNchq+Q4CvkOo/EaAouww5I/S8+DYKrLHj67lP12sJLaKEd5C/irltNkEVZ/TJ8foiSFGDux3MyeENXBlruwGBOSQCrrv3GRyr1JQaE5Cm1a+YFLu95TzXXv6DxdZ6L735XUXEjstpNsSRcgSsvf4KQGedd0vZFANAxjfqMsvrEtlCzovtBQG/7cT6GtEKvQmIbQYMAwpuJaTOMDSr+ds3ExJfFzJbZxtWKw5M7mqKWrRMPVDtEYgkb3t5urv610EA6nJXOKdKV7osno7SM7gpduqj/ze1fb2zaF7AoMQBfPgLLolTm+sZ7phvrSSNcPn/6StUmsPtBruRpSYdvbgDh5m00NlPnDEfNqzWkBxfTYvBw5fYqXEgvKffJFL0Pt4N5mTk/d8J8VvoUFMbDdVV1pnKvK572P2ulZmvEHNjDRmkbBxQtWBq

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 8, 2016 • 12:39:44pm

So, these recounts… they are proving that our system isn’t full of fraud after all and that no voter ID is needed.


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