Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:
Pap Smear: Kellyanne Conway is an evil genius; Conway warns that Trump can manipulate the stock market; Alex Jones’ list of fake news sites; Pizzagate; The latest Trump nominations; Fast food CEO will run the Labor Department; The Ohio Anti-Abortion bill; We call State Senator Steve Oroho to schedule a pap smear; and more.
Super lede on this Trump story. It’s imbued with great reporting detail and intrigue | https://t.co/IYZA9DN6hM @WSJ pic.twitter.com/K0CTaguGm9
— Miles Moffeit (@milesmoffeit) December 8, 2016
re: #1 Stanley Sea
In other words, it will take at least four years to get to the bottom of any conflict of interest charges…
re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
In other words, it will take at least four years to get to the bottom of any conflict of interest charges…
The guys on Keepin It 1600 mentioned recently that one of the reasons people who are very wealthy rarely run for office is because their estates and tax liabilities are often tied up in very complex legal structures. I hadn’t really thought about that, but knowing how many different ways there are to structure assets like this, it’s not terribly surprising.
Trump probably has a lot of holdings like this. And if he had creative lawyers, it could well be impossible to know what is a Trump asset without a full map of all his holdings.
re: #1 Stanley Sea
It’s interesting to see something useful on this subject from the Wall Street Journal.
The chamber of commerce types in the GOP may be realizing that the upcoming orgy of corruption under Trump will taint both the GOP and ‘business’ brands.
re: #3 KGxvi
The guys on Keepin It 1600 mentioned recently that one of the reasons people who are very wealthy rarely run for office is because their estates and tax liabilities are often tied up in very complex legal structures. I hadn’t really thought about that, but knowing how many different ways there are to structure assets like this, it’s not terribly surprising.
Trump probably has a lot of holdings like this. And if he had creative lawyers, it could well be impossible to know what is a Trump asset without a full map of all his holdings.
But Trump does not give a shit, and neither do most of his supporters.
re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But Trump does not give a shit, and neither do most of his supporters.
We have to boil this down to “corrupt” and repeat it over and over.
re: #6 Belafon
We have to boil this down to “corrupt” and repeat it over and over.
But Corrupt Hillary!!!
I saw this downstairs…
Alex Jones says “vicious serial killer” Hillary Clinton has “personally murdered and chopped up and raped” children
‘Rape, THEN pillage, THEN burn.’
re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But Trump does not give a shit, and neither do most of his supporters.
Of course he doesn’t give a shit, he’s managed to live a life free of consequences. As for his supporters, I still don’t understand them - and I’ve relatives in my immediate family that voted for him.
re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White
I saw this downstairs…
‘Rape, THEN pillage, THEN burn.’
I thought it was “pillage, then rape, then burn”?
re: #9 KGxvi
Of course he doesn’t give a shit, he’s managed to live a life free of consequences. As for his supporters, I still don’t understand them - and I’ve relatives in my immediate family that voted for him.
These are people who hate government, hate politicians and politics. They voted Trump to spite them all and see them humbled and ground into the dirt. So they will continue to cheer on the all the damage he is about to wreak on our government and its institutions.
re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
These are people who hate government, hate politicians and politics. They voted Trump to spite them all and see them humbled and ground into the dirt. So they will continue to cheer on the all the damage he is about to wreak on our government and its institutions.
Resentment. They resent everything and everybody.
They resented the smarter kids in school. They resent their supervisor. They resent the guy who got promoted over them. They resent the union guy next door for making more than them. They resent the minimum wage worker at McDonalds for not making less. They resent women and minorities for not being satisfied with getting less. They resent government for making them pay taxes. They resent government giving any help to anyone else. They resent the unemployed for not working. They resent the poor for not being ashamed enough. They resent people who point out their bigotry, and they resent the people they’re bigoted against for not knowing their place.
my latest >>> Something Disturbing About Tulsi Gabbard https://t.co/0MZB6GvH1s via @TPM
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) December 8, 2016
Insanity.
“a sitting president will be on the payroll of a current TV show ” https://t.co/yo1zeU4Vhv
— Robert Loerzel (@robertloerzel) December 8, 2016
re: #17 allegro
He’s just daring us isn’t he?
I swear, he’s just seeing how far he can go before somebody stops him. Not a reassuring trait in a POTUS.
re: #15 Stanley Sea
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I’ve always said that there was something about Tulsi Gabbard that disturbed me when she spoke at our convention a few years back—I think Josh may have sparked my memory—that she was totally gung ho about military people being better than civilians. She still creeps me out.
re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White
I swear, he’s just seeing how far he can go before somebody stops him. Not a reassuring trait in a POTUS.
It’s certainly a glaring illustration that our laws are not up to covering or preventing this gross level of corruption.
re: #16 Stanley Sea
Insanity.
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Probably part of a trade-out with Mark Burnett for producing his inaugural extravaganza. (He’s probably trying to convince Mark and Roma to do a new “Bible” movie with Trump as god.)
Ugh—but the media will just shrug their shoulders and move along to wonder if Ivanka will change up her street style once she moves to DC.
re: #7 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But Corrupt Hillary!!!
Who isn’t president elect.
re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But Trump does not give a shit, and neither do most of his supporters.
The message isn’t necessarily for them.
re: #20 allegro
It’s certainly a glaring illustration that our laws are not up to covering or preventing this gross level of corruption.
No. We’ve depended for a long time on electing Presidents who either wanted to be ethical or at least could be shamed into APPEARING ethical, as well as Congresses that wanted to give the appearance of being independent and holding the President accountable. So we never felt the need to write it into law, just as with the tax records.
And as Trump has made ABUNDANTLY clear, he will do as little, or as much as he can get away with.
Jeez—bad enough that Puzder is a complete asshole about labor issues, now we find out that he was accused of domestic abuse and
At the time, Puzder was an anti-abortion activist and chair of then-Gov. John Ashcroft (R)’s Task Force for Mothers and Unborn Children.
There was a Hardee’s built by me from the ground up a year or two ago. It didn’t last 3 months.
re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White
As long as he goes along with the GOP rolling back every piece of progressive legislation of the last 60 years they’ll let his do anything he wants.
re: #17 allegro
He’s just daring us isn’t he?
No. He’s getting away with it and rubbing it in our faces. He knows no one will do anything about it.
“History will never forgive Obama for what he has done to the #Syrian people.” – fmr Syrian PM https://t.co/Ckt9p6Irrh
— John McCain (@SenJohnMcCain) December 8, 2016
I beg your pardon? Bashar al-Assad started the civil war. Vladimir Putin funded him. How exactly is this anything to do with Obama? https://t.co/IFr12GY5Cr
— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) December 8, 2016
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
John Glenn’s dead and John McCain is still alive. What a fucked up world we live in.
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Better question: Why the fuck is Johnny “WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE REBELS!!!” McCain repeating this shit? Oh right, because he didn’t get the war he really wanted.
re: #28 Patricia Kayden
Funny how NBC fired Billy Bush but will now be paying Trump again.
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Fuck John McCain (and the horse’s ass, Palin, he rode in on.)
re: #30 Skip Intro
John Glenn’s dead and John McCain is still alive. What a fucked up world we live in.
I don’t mind McCain still being alive but I wish he’d leave politics and stop being a war hungry brat.
re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White
Resentment. They resent everything and everybody.
They resented the smarter kids in school. They resent their supervisor. They resent the guy who got promoted over them. They resent the union guy next door for making more than them. They resent the minimum wage worker at McDonalds for not making less. They resent women and minorities for not being satisfied with getting less. They resent government for making them pay taxes. They resent government giving any help to anyone else. They resent the unemployed for not working. They resent the poor for not being ashamed enough. They resent people who point out their bigotry, and they resent the people they’re bigoted against for not knowing their place.
Which is breeding a competing wave of resentment against them as a whole by those whom they resent.
The Republicans have firmly put us on this path over the course of the past eight years by finally embracing pure nihilism. They aim to oppress and dehumanize, willfully ignorant of the consequences, expecting the majority of people in this country to take such abuse.
It’s a destructive cycle.
Donald Trump will still be an exec producer on “The New Celebrity Apprentice” and profit from the show. https://t.co/lWFRA3riN1 pic.twitter.com/Y2hLTt2WNK
— Variety (@Variety) December 8, 2016
This is now entering the realm of nightmarish surrealism. @Variety https://t.co/6ciA9LtSS8
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 8, 2016
re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And then whine about how all the nice things they once enjoyed; like the Armed Forces they worship, Medicare, an extensive highway system that keeps their shopping cheap, and more; disappear.
How was I supposed to know?
Perhaps Sen. McCain should worry more about his own legacy with his support of and willing participation in the most corrupt administration our country has ever seen. Your party, Johnny. You are letting it happen without so much as a whimper as people die.
re: #4 EPR-radar
It’s interesting to see something useful on this subject from the Wall Street Journal.
The chamber of commerce types in the GOP may be realizing that the upcoming orgy of corruption under Trump will taint both the GOP and ‘business’ brands.
F— the US Chamber of Commerce. They helped make this bed. Besides, they won’t bother to notice until it’s much too late for them own personal advantages.
Donald Trump Labour minister “Carl, Junior” promises American workers unlimited employment as flippers of disgusting hamburgers.
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) December 8, 2016
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
Well, Trump isn’t the only one that is likely suffering from age related dementia.
Sen. McCain? It’s time to ride into the sunset.
Well I’m proud of myself. My boss agreed with my summary that Linda McMahon may be professionally qualified for SBA but not ethically.
I can’t help but think that Trump would watch the movie Starship Troopers and think “now THAT is how our society should function!”
re: #42 Romantic Heretic
Well, Trump isn’t the only one that is likely suffering from age related dementia.
Sen. McCain? It’s time to ride into the sunset.
That time was eight years ago. Now it’s just sad seeing McCain be the Will Rodgers of war.
re: #16 Stanley Sea
Insanity.
Robert Loerzel @robertloerzel
“a sitting president will be on the payroll of a current TV show ” variety.com …
5:30 PM - 8 Dec 2016
It’s just that easy to be President don’t you know? So easy you can juggle the job while doing the real important stuff like conning people with your bullshit businesses and running a stupid reality TV show.
Damn this man! America has got to get him out of holding that office. He’s a malignancy.
re: #44 Arkansawyer
Except Trump would never be allowed to vote or hold public office in The Federation.
That would require that he spend at least two years in public service which he is psychologically and ethically incapable of doing. Plus I doubt they would accept him. The psychiatrists would determine he couldn’t understand the oath he’d have to take. Which was the only reason they could turn you away.
re: #46 ObserverArt
Not really work, just a payoff from Comcast to kill off Net Neutrality.
If you think there’s a disconnect between Trump aiming his campaign at the WWC, promising to bring back the glory days of the 1950s on the one hand, and his attack on the Carrier Steelworkers Local and his appointment of an anti-Labor Labor Secretary on the other, it’s because you don’t get that Trump doesn’t want to EMPOWER people to improve their own lives. He wants the worship that he feels is his due from GIVING things to workers.
2/2 That disconnect especially ironic in light of explicit original purpose of the Dep’t of LABOR: https://t.co/BWZY0Hjw0F @ThePlumLineGS pic.twitter.com/arD1Uior6J
— Jeff Hauser (@jeffhauser) December 8, 2016
Umm, those two things are not the same, @nytimes. https://t.co/vGPJTQEKBA pic.twitter.com/qBjOFg0Dfy
— Waqas Mirza (@waqasahmi) December 8, 2016
Calling racists racists is exactly the same as physically assaulting someone you’re racist against. Uh huh. Shut up, @nytimes. https://t.co/kK7DriuYPK
— Dana Simpson (@MizDanaClaire) December 8, 2016
@MizDanaClaire The NYT seems to be snorting that Magic Balance Fairy dust that CNN is totally addicted to.
— Nathan Obral 📎😸📎 (@myronfalwell) December 8, 2016
@myronfalwell Which is annoying at the best of times, but downright dangerous when one of the “sides” is violent racism.
— Dana Simpson (@MizDanaClaire) December 8, 2016
@MizDanaClaire Exactly right. The media is all about the $$$ their parent companies can make. Performing a public service is so low on the priority scale.
— Nathan Obral 📎😸📎 (@myronfalwell) December 8, 2016
@MizDanaClaire And it’s pants-shittingly scary when they poo-poo stuff like this.
— Nathan Obral 📎😸📎 (@myronfalwell) December 8, 2016
re: #49 Blind Frog Belly White
If you think there’s a disconnect between Trump aiming his campaign at the WWC, promising to bring back the glory days of the 1950s on the one hand, and his attack on the Carrier Steelworkers Local and his appointment of an anti-Labor Labor Secretary on the other, it’s because you don’t get that Trump doesn’t want to EMPOWER people to improve their own lives. He wants the worship that he feels is his due from GIVING things to workers.
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He’s no friend of labor. Never has been, never will be.
re: #48 Skip Intro
Not really work, just a payoff from Comcast to kill off Net Neutrality.
And in turn, Comcast-NBC allows Trump to continue as EP for the Apprentice franchise.
Pay-to-play at its worst.
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
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McCain is suffering from the worst case of malignant butthurt ever.
And people said he was so strong. At one time, but being a senator has done nothing for him and running for president turned him into a bitter man. He’s totally eaten by Obama hate.
re: #51 HappyWarrior
He’s no friend of labor. Never has been, never will be.
Watch what happens when Trump signs a National Right To Work Law…
re: #49 Blind Frog Belly White
If you think there’s a disconnect between Trump aiming his campaign at the WWC, promising to bring back the glory days of the 1950s on the one hand, and his attack on the Carrier Steelworkers Local and his appointment of an anti-Labor Labor Secretary on the other, it’s because you don’t get that Trump doesn’t want to EMPOWER people to improve their own lives. He wants the worship that he feels is his due from GIVING things to workers.
He’s Henry Clay Frick and Andrew Carnegie reincarnate.
re: #53 ObserverArt
McCain is suffering from the worst case of malignant butthurt ever.
And people said he was so strong. At one time, but being a senator has done nothing for him and running for president turned him into a bitter man. He’s totally eaten by Obama hate.
He’s a bitter old man. It’s honestly sad. There was a time when I erspected McCain but ever since he lost in 2008, he’s been a bitter and sore loser. He really could have been gracious in defeat and worked with Obama on issues facing our world but he chose the path of bitterness.
Given how many of the WWC are addicted to opioids (heroin deaths exceeding gun murders for the first time this year), Duterte would seem a strange choice for a Trump bromance….
BREAKING: Duterte compares Philippine drug killings to Hitler, says he’d be “happy to slaughter” 3 million addicts.
— The Associated Press (@AP) September 30, 2016
ETA: Note, ADDICTS, not DEALERS.
re: #56 HappyWarrior
Yikes.
The country will grind to a literal halt as every single union (outside LEO unions of course) unilaterally strikes indefinitely in protest.
re: #54 Joe Bacon
Watch what happens when Trump signs a National Right To Work Law…
The media will rush to present him as the greatest friend to the working class ever for finally ending the plight of unions, keeping them from “extorting” dues from workers and allowing workers to make their own deals with management rather than being held hostage to union demands. Workers will no longer have to worry that they’ll be out of work for days or weeks because of a union strike that they don’t support. We’ll be back to the “Good Ol’ Days” when every worker could chart his own course.
re: #55 Myron Falwell (no relation)
Well, Carnegie did build libraries.
And speaking of libraries, where will Trump’s be and what will be in it?
My guess is the old Playboy mansion with ancient Hugh as the librarian. The contents will be composed of Trump tweets and tweets from people who tell him how smart and intelligent he is.
re: #61 Skip Intro
Well, Carnegie did build libraries.
And speaking of libraries, where will Trump’s be and what will be in it?
My guess is the old Playboy mansion with ancient Hugh as the librarian. The contents will be composed of Trump tweets and tweets from people who tell him how smart and intelligent he is.
It’s funny because the Kochs want to actively destroy libraries.
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re: #60 Targetpractice
The same goes for health insurance. No more bureaucratic insurance exchanges to deal with. You’ll go right to the insurance company of your choice where they’ll look at your pre-existing conditions and tell you to go fuck yourself. Just like the good old days around five years ago.
re: #60 Targetpractice
The media will rush to present him as the greatest friend to the working class ever for finally ending the plight of unions, keeping them from “extorting” dues from workers and allowing workers to make their own deals with management rather than being held hostage to union demands. Workers will no longer have to worry that they’ll be out of work for days or weeks because of a union strike that they don’t support. We’ll be back to the “Good Ol’ Days” when every worker could chart his own course.
Are you okay? I understand the intention of your comment, but that must have been painful to type. It had to be tough on all your finger tendons and possibly causing carpel tunnel syndrome due to your brain resisting typing that.
I admire your toughness and mental stamina!
re: #60 Targetpractice
re: #64 Skip Intro
The echo chambers in the GOP, the MBF-snorting media and the fake news/propaganda wing of the Trump Regime will definitely paint it that way.
In truth, it’s tantamount to a declaration of war on the majority of the population and especially on New York and California, daring both states to secede.
re: #61 Skip Intro
Well, Carnegie did build libraries.
And speaking of libraries, where will Trump’s be and what will be in it?
My guess is the old Playboy mansion with ancient Hugh as the librarian. The contents will be composed of Trump tweets and tweets from people who tell him how smart and intelligent he is.
It will be in Trump Tower or one of his other properties.
Trump can’t read. Why would he waste money on a library?
re: #61 Skip Intro
Well, Carnegie did build libraries.
And speaking of libraries, where will Trump’s be and what will be in it?
My guess is the old Playboy mansion with ancient Hugh as the librarian. The contents will be composed of Trump tweets and tweets from people who tell him how smart and intelligent he is.
Trump will build casinos. They’ll be right downtown in small cities across the country, just like the Carnegie libraries are.
re: #68 MsJ
Trump can’t read. Why would he waste money on a library?
You don’t get it. He’ll license his name to the library for around $1 million per year, + 20% annual cost adjustments.
Losing John Glenn today feels like losing a bit of the America that used to be.
Does that make any sense?
re: #71 Dave In Austin
Losing John Glenn today feels like losing a bit of the America that used to be.
Does that make any sense?
I’ve felt that way ever since Trump won. It isn’t getting any better as time goes on.
re: #71 Dave In Austin
Losing John Glenn today feels like losing a bit of the America that used to be.
Does that make any sense?
In more ways than one. A brave veteran, a pioneering astronaut and a distinguished senator who was respected by all.
re: #65 ObserverArt
Are you okay? I understand the intention of your comment, but that must have been painful to type. It had to be tough on all your finger tendons and possibly causing carpel tunnel syndrome due to your brain resisting typing that.
I admire your toughness and mental stamina!
I’ve just decided to stop fighting it and give into the Dark Side of cynicism. The past month has shown me two things: 1) Trump is gonna play this country like the harp from Hell and 2) the media is gonna cover his ass every step of the way. It’s sort of hard anymore to really tell myself that the next 4 years are gonna be anything other than an absolute shitshow.
Well, fuck…
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re: #70 Skip Intro
You don’t get it. He’ll license his name to the library for around $1 million per year, + 20% annual cost adjustments.
I believe you’ve struck gold there. I’d expect nothing less from the grifter in cheef.
re: #61 Skip Intro
Well, Carnegie did build libraries.
And speaking of libraries, where will Trump’s be and what will be in it?
My guess is the old Playboy mansion with ancient Hugh as the librarian. The contents will be composed of Trump tweets and tweets from people who tell him how smart and intelligent he is.
I don’t know if it is true, but I had it explained to me one time that Carnegie had to be goaded by someone, maybe a president, into building those libraries, museums, etc.
I’ve always wondered about all that, and your comment reminded me. I think it was said he didn’t want to spend any of his money. To be motivated he was told he would be better know and more famous if he did things for the community. It hit his ego.
I’m going to have to study that more sometime. Any historian lizards know anything about him being motivated by others?
re: #63 darthstar
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Job creation.#ObamaLegacy pic.twitter.com/0Aif0dcVP7
— Parker 🏳️🌈 (@Parker9_) December 8, 2016
re: #75 William Lewis
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re: #57 HappyWarrior
Strange that I never liked McCain and was pissed off when liberals like Jon Stewart fawned all over him. I could never understand what people on the Left saw in him that was so admirable. He’s certainly no maverick and boy is he bitter. Oh well. Different strokes for different folks.
re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth
It will be in Trump Tower or one of his other properties.
Only $59.95 to get in. Children under 12 are $39.95. A great deal for a great library.
And you can watch replays of The Apprentice in The President Donald J. Trump Media Center.
It’ll be great, the greatest presidential library ever, so much more grand than the pitiful Barack Obama library in Chicago.
re: #74 Targetpractice
Cynicism and nihilism power the GOP. In a sense, it’s easy to predict their actions and the subsequent spin coming from a sycophant media (which, again, is not your friend).
If I’m pessimistic about anything, it’s that the GOP - led by Trump - intend to tear everything apart. They actually want violence and bloodshed, thinking that their tough guys will take control militarily.
I think the Republicans are underestimating gravely just how foolish of a plan this is. It’s like trying to outrun a freight train because their car can go 110 MPH. We know what the result will be… but they don’t. And never will.
re: #81 Patricia Kayden
Strange that I never liked McCain and was pissed off when liberals like Jon Stewart fawned all over him. I could never understand what people on the Left saw in him that was so admirable. He’s certainly no maverick and boy is he bitter. Oh well. Different strokes for different folks.
I’m with you—always thought he was an asshole and a self-serving one at that.
re: #50 Myron Falwell (no relation)
And would bet that something similarly ridiculous is behind the latest angle that loon Paul Sperry is pushing here re: SPLC: nypost.com
The Montgomery, Ala.-based nonprofit self-censored results from a key question it asked educators — whether they agree or disagree with the following statement: “I have heard derogatory language or slurs about white students.”
Asked last week to provide the data, SPLC initially said it was having a hard time getting the information “from the researchers.” Pressed, SPLC spokeswoman Kirsten Bokenkamp finally revealed that “about 20 percent answered affirmatively to that question.”
Bokenkamp did not provide an explanation for the absence of such a substantial metric — at least 2,000 bias-related incidents against white students — from the report, which focuses instead on “anti-immigrant sentiment,” “anti-Muslim sentiment” and “slurs about students of color” related to the election.
re: #71 Dave In Austin
Losing John Glenn today feels like losing a bit of the America that used to be.
Does that make any sense?
I sure feel that way. Age of anyone reading your comment really plays a part too.
Being an Ohio schoolboy, I still remember the nuns letting us listen to the radio as he went into earth orbit. I remember my teacher Sister Marcianna, praying he would be safe and she was so relieved when he splashed down.
I was always the doodler in class, artist background, what can I say…and at that time I was doing drawings of space capsules both exterior and also side view sliced open so I could draw the astronaut in his seat with control panels and looking out the little Mercury capsule window.
Damn we sure had a lot of dreams going on and actually being fulfilled in those days. The technology was coming fast.
But it was also the 60s and we now know people really want the 50s. The 60s were too damn liberal and progressive and cost tax money for things like science and social programs. /grrrr.
re: #81 Patricia Kayden
Strange that I never liked McCain and was pissed off when liberals like Jon Stewart fawned all over him. I could never understand what people on the Left saw in him that was so admirable. He’s certainly no maverick and boy is he bitter. Oh well. Different strokes for different folks.
Well speaking for myself, I appreciated that he condemned torture when a lot on the right were embracing it. I also appreciated the stances on CFR and the Bush taxes. I never planned to vote for him ever but he was someone I respected.
re: #75 William Lewis
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re: #84 BeachDem
I’m with you—always thought he was an asshole and a self-serving one at that.
You guys were right about him. I’ve also learned some other stuff about him i.e. his attitude toward the MLK Jr holiday and his record involving Native Americans that would have turned me off if I had known before. TBH, I first turned off of McCain when he was pretty silent when Kerry had his record attacked and that was after Kerry had defended him.
re: #77 ObserverArt
I don’t know if it is true, but I had it explained to me one time that Carnegie had to be goaded by someone, maybe a president, into building those libraries, museums, etc.
I’ve always wondered about all that, and your comment reminded me. I think it was said he didn’t want to spend any of his money. To be motivated he was told he would be better know and more famous if he did things for the community. It hit his ego.
I’m going to have to study that more sometime. Any historian lizards know anything about him being motivated by others?
IIRC, Carnegie had a massive falling out with Frick over the ordered use of force by Frick to union bust the Homestead Strike. While Carnegie was always anti-union, the library building and art collections were clearly meant to improve his public standing.
re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White
Resentment. They resent everything and everybody.
They resented the smarter kids in school. They resent their supervisor. They resent the guy who got promoted over them. They resent the union guy next door for making more than them. They resent the minimum wage worker at McDonalds for not making less. They resent women and minorities for not being satisfied with getting less. They resent government for making them pay taxes. They resent government giving any help to anyone else. They resent the unemployed for not working. They resent the poor for not being ashamed enough. They resent people who point out their bigotry, and they resent the people they’re bigoted against for not knowing their place.
Requoted for truth.
re: #79 Alyosha
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I have seen the argument Trump did something Obama never did even though he said he would. And that is actually threaten and stop a job mover.
So I guess that means job creation and saving the auto industry doesn’t count and compare to Carrier and Indiana. Yeah Trump!
And now I feel like I need to go pound on my drums for a bit…I for some stupid reason turned to the beginning of Hard Ball tonight and Matthews was fawning over the “fair” comments of one Kellyann Conway Dark Mistress of the Untruths.
I heard her say Hillary saying “she was going to eliminate coal miners jobs was heard by all the union people” and then Matthews saying that was a fair jab and I turned that crap off.
Drums…yeah…later!
re: #63 darthstar
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re: #90 Myron Falwell (no relation)
IIRC, Carnegie had a massive falling out with Frick over the ordered use of force by Frick to union bust the Homestead Strike. While Carnegie was always anti-union, the library building and art collections were clearly meant to improve his public standing.
Apropos of nothing, last time I was in NYC, I went to Carnegie Hall and the Frick Museum. Always loved Carnegie Hall; thought the Frick Museum was kind of excessive (sort of what Trump would have built had he been around at the time, thinking it was the height of class.)
And all in all, I was most gratified that the Carnegie Deli had re-opened.
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re: #86 ObserverArt
I’m 62 next Monday…. Gaaaaaaaa!
re: #93 Colère Tueur de Lapin
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Knowing the Pizzagate crowd, “helicopter in scotland” is probably weird code for something 9.9
re: #60 Targetpractice
The media will rush to present him as the greatest friend to the working class ever for finally ending the plight of unions, keeping them from “extorting” dues from workers and allowing workers to make their own deals with management rather than being held hostage to union demands. Workers will no longer have to worry that they’ll be out of work for days or weeks because of a union strike that they don’t support. We’ll be back to the “Good Ol’ Days” when every worker could chart his own course.
and a Level Playing Field in which individuals and families with limited resources can negotiate of equal terms with multi-million (billion)-dollar international corporations for terms of employment.
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re: #74 Targetpractice
I’ve just decided to stop fighting it and give into the Dark Side of cynicism. The past month has shown me two things: 1) Trump is gonna play this country like the harp from Hell and 2) the media is gonna cover his ass every step of the way. It’s sort of hard anymore to really tell myself that the next 4 years are gonna be anything other than an absolute shitshow.
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