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210 comments

1
Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:28:01pm

Let me be the 1st to say……..

Lordy… Multiplying again.

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Interesting Times  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:34:43pm
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William Lewis  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:34:50pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

Let me be the 1st to say……..

Lordy… Multiplying again.

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By their traditional values, isn’t this her first that isn’t a bastard?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:38:23pm

re: #3 William Lewis

By their traditional values, isn’t this her first that isn’t a bastard?

Yes, assuming her current husband is actually the father.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:40:41pm

re: #3 William Lewis

By their traditional values, isn’t this her first that isn’t a bastard?

Paging Maury Povich! It’s DNA testing time again!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:45:34pm

re: #3 William Lewis

Sister Sarah’s son, the girlfriend beater had a child with the beatee. No media at all.

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William Lewis  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:45:45pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Point taken given the drinking habits seen in the past.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:49:48pm

BTW…

Good Ol’ Rod Dreher has been pimping the Putin is defending the Orthodox Faith meme for 2 or 3 years now.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:55:01pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon

Paging Maury Povich! It’s DNA testing time again!

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Scottishdragon  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:03:29pm
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Kragar  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:08:35pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:09:14pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:09:26pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

Sister Sarah’s son, the girlfriend beater had a child with the beatee. No media at all.

You do know the Obama girl burnt one at a concert, and that will have lifelong implications.

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Kragar  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:10:42pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:14:18pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:14:44pm

re: #14 Kragar

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Wonder what her quiver capacity is?

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:15:35pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:16:27pm

re: #16 Eventual Carrion

Wonder what her quiver capacity is?

12 qts to a case…..

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:16:40pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:19:09pm

re: #17 Dave In Austin

Heh, the artist grafted Trump’s head onto Alex Jones’ body.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:19:59pm

washingtonpost.com

There’s an old, grainy black-and-white video floating around YouTube that shows Black Panther Bobby Lee addressing a group of poor white migrants from the South and Appalachia. “I wanna introduce a man that come over here tonight from another part of town but he’s fighting for some of the same causes we’re fighting for … so I’m gonna introduce you to Bobby Lee here,” says a member of the Young Patriots Organization, a political group that organized poor white migrants in 1960s Chicago.

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Lidane  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:36:26pm
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Lidane  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:37:43pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:43:03pm

re: #23 Lidane

It’s now to big for McConnell to sweep under the rug. The Sunday shows will be on fire.

Stay warm…

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retired cynic  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:48:05pm

re: #24 Dave In Austin

It’s now to big for McConnell to sweep under the rug. The Sunday shows will be on fire.

Stay warm…

Pshaw. I’ve seen him, and Pence, and Ryan, just weasel-word and downright look you in the eye and lie. They’ll just deny it, over and over, shaking their heads sorrowfully that the MSM is so lame as to get all caught up in things of the past. Look to the future!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:52:10pm

re: #25 retired cynic

Pshaw. I’ve seen him, and Pence, and Ryan, just weasel-word and downright look you in the eye and lie. They’ll just deny it, over and over, shaking their heads sorrowfully that the MSM is so lame as to get all caught up in things of the past. Look to the future!

Oh I know….. Just looked at McConnell’s mentions. Not a happy place.

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retired cynic  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:53:12pm

re: #26 Dave In Austin

Oh I know….. Just looked at McConnell’s mentions. Not a happy place.

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Shortchanged the miners, then.

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:53:38pm

Have y’all seen @SpeakerRyan’s banner at his Twitter account. What a pandering disgusting moron.

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:55:07pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

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retired cynic  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:57:29pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Anybody wanna guess that that is a photo op, arranged just like the wash-up at the homeless shelter. In fact, I’m pretty sure I read about the situation where that was taken.

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Honey Punch!  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:57:36pm

re: #11 Kragar

You’ve got to wonder how much blackmail material the Russians have on @realDonaldTrump and the @GOP right now.

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hidden for unhealthy mental image

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:59:53pm

re: #30 retired cynic

Paul Ryan is one of the sleaziest career politicians I’ve observed in all my years of watching politics. He has no morals.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:09:16pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Paul Ryan is one of the sleaziest career politicians I’ve observed in all my years of watching politics. He has no morals.

You must be young. ;)

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:15:47pm

re: #33 Odie Hugh Manatee

You must be young. ;)

I am. 35 in May.

:-P

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:18:21pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

I am. 35 in May.

:-P

In time you’ll see that it’s turtles all the way down. :)

Caught this thought by someone:

Juliette Kayyem Verified account
@juliettekayyem

Proof of collusion between Russia and Trump campaign is next shoe to drop. Trumps statement about CIA essentially guaranteed it.

I’d like to see that.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:28:14pm

re: #35 Odie Hugh Manatee

In time you’ll see that it’s turtles all the way down. :)

Caught this thought by someone:

I’d like to see that.

I don’t doubt for one minute that the CIA could make Trump’s life a living nightmare if they chose to.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:30:52pm

heh….

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boredtechindenver  Dec 10, 2016 • 2:37:22am

Is there an issue with the server or is everyone busy with other things?

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Jayleia  Dec 10, 2016 • 2:54:27am

re: #38 boredtechindenver

Hamsters seem to be running in the wheels, the tubes all seem to be connected in a nice series…I’m falling asleep though.

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William Lewis  Dec 10, 2016 • 2:54:33am

Just busy or sleeping for a change. It happens once in awhile.

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teleskiguy  Dec 10, 2016 • 2:55:06am

re: #38 boredtechindenver

Is there an issue with the server or is everyone busy with other things?

Everyt’ing irie on my side.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 10, 2016 • 3:18:43am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 10, 2016 • 3:27:45am
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Alyosha  Dec 10, 2016 • 3:31:25am

Saw ‘Arrival’ this evening. Holy shit. Best first contact movie I’ve ever seen and a dire indictment of humanity in some parts. I heartily recommend.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 3:46:00am

Cannot really fault the the Russians: they saw a weakened electoral system full of possibilities for manipulation and took advantage of it using a minimum of resources (a handful of young hackers) in order to weaken one of their chief competitors for dominance on the world stage.

They succeeded, but only because we gave them every opportunity.

We need reform of the electoral system: comprehensively and at a national level. We need to afford it the level of care and attention that it warrants.

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teleskiguy  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:07:55am

Man, when it’s cold, the pellet stove gets dirty quick! Took me a half hour to get all the soot out just now.

Temperatures forecast near or above 40° F this weekend. It was -7° on Tuesday.

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teleskiguy  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:12:07am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:48:32am

So, if anyone’s in the mood for some vintage TV sci-fi/woowoo, there’s this, which I happily found on YouTube - episodes of Project UFO, a series originally broadcast from 1978 to 1979. In some ways, Project UFO was a forerunner of The X-Files, which came 14 years later.

Project UFO: The Scoutmaster Incident - FULL

This episode is from Season 2; I used to love watching this show when I was a kid. Enjoy!

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Alyosha  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:04:54am

REDICULOUS!!!

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(alpuz)  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:11:26am

re: #49 Alyosha

Surreal.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:21:04am

re: #44 Alyosha

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Saw ‘Arrival’ this evening. Holy shit. Best first contact movie I’ve ever seen and a dire indictment of humanity in some parts. I heartily recommend.

Probably the best summarization of the strange world we live in now.

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Alyosha  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:22:53am

re: #50 (alpuz)

Surreal.

Still catch myself realising that this is actually happening. Then I remember things like the Supreme Court vacancy. Once it was merely depressing, but now it’s infuriating. The GOP really is a fucking evil institution.
Fuck all of them.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:23:13am

re: #49 Alyosha

REDICULOUS!!!

Wasn’t that from his spokeswench?

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Alyosha  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:24:31am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Probably the best summarization of the strange world we live in now.

Yeah, that was one of the movie’s strengths. The human stupidity was so recognisable that it hurt. A sign of good cinema.

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Alyosha  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:26:08am

re: #53 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Wasn’t that from his spokeswench?

“He has to do something with his free time’ or something to that effect? Yeah, Conway…

What a disgrace.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:26:59am

re: #54 Alyosha

Yeah, that was one of the movie’s strengths. The human stupidity was so recognisable that it hurt. A sign of good cinema.

I meant the part about who believe Pizzaria owners run a satanic child rape ring based on what Alex Jones says but will insist this is fake. Need to see that movie. There’s so much stupidity in the world it hurts.

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(alpuz)  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:30:42am

re: #56 HappyWarrior

It’s not the stupidity that hurts, it’s the manipulation of said stupidity that’s gonna leave a mark. I know plenty of stupid people, myself included, that would be just fine on this here planet if they didn’t watch FOX news and read Breitbart or Drudge.

With that, I’m going into lurk mode while I make breakfast for my Mom’s birthday brunch.
Good luck storming the castle, kids!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:31:32am

The other GOP leadership outside of Trump is even worse than he is in my opinion. They acted all outraged by him when they saw him as a liability but now that he’s President elect, none of that matters and then you have profiles in cowardice like McCain who love talking to the media for attention who can’t say one word about him. I still can’t believe we elected this guy. Such a terrible mistake that is going to impact so many people.

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Alyosha  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:31:39am

re: #56 HappyWarrior

I meant the part about who believe Pizzaria owners run a satanic child rape ring based on what Alex Jones says but will insist this is fake. Need to see that movie. There’s so much stupidity in the world it hurts.

Oh that. Well, that kind of idiocy burrows deep down beneath malicious stupidity and starts scraping on the rocks that encase veritable dementia. Rage destroys your brain.

And countries again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:35:43am

re: #56 HappyWarrior

I meant the part about who believe Pizzaria owners run a satanic child rape ring based on what Alex Jones says but will insist this is fake. Need to see that movie. There’s so much stupidity in the world it hurts.

I still say someone should open the Satanic Pedophile Pizza Cellar…you would not have to spend a penny on advertising.

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Jayleia  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:36:58am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, but you’d need to spend a metric shitload (minimum) on security

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:50:16am

Everything the Republicans do right now can be questioned with “What do the Russians have on you?”

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:57:41am

re: #62 Belafon

Everything the Republicans do right now can be questioned with “What do the Russians have on you?”

This would all be a great premise for a blockbuster thriller, “soon to be a major motion picture.” Needs a hero/heroine to save the day, though. Otherwise, it turns into another dystopian SF novel.

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jeffreyw  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:58:12am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:01:03am

I’ve been fighting a nasty cold all week, and finally felt decent enough to leave the flat and walk around a bit. It’s been sunny and warm during the afternoons, but I’ve felt so crappy since Tuesday, I missed all that.

I’m feeling better now, but all this news about Russian hacking and Trump denying makes me want to crawl back into bed and pull the covers over my head for another week.

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Jayleia  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:04:51am

re: #63 wheat-dogg

This would all be a great premise for a blockbuster thriller, “soon to be a major motion picture.” Needs a hero/heroine to save the day, though. Otherwise, it turns into another dystopian SF novel.

This IS a dystopian SF novel, without a heroine

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jeffreyw  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:05:02am

Flickr


Goood morning!

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:21:56am

Mele Kalikimaka motherfuckers….wore my new suit to my wife’s company Xmas party…

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Alyosha  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:23:49am

We who adore our fiercely independent state-owned media (still a possible thing) affectionately refer to the ABC as ‘Auntie’.
Here’s just one reason why I love her.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:31:47am

re: #55 Alyosha

“He has to do something with his free time’ or something to that effect? Yeah, Conway…

What a disgrace.

Conway is quickly becoming the Secretary of Muddying Waters.

She says something + Trump contradicts her = FAKE NEWS!!!!11th1!

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:33:31am

re: #70 makeitstop

Conway is quickly becoming the Secretary of Muddying Waters.

She says something + Trump contradicts her = FAKE NEWS!!!!11th1!

It indicates how disorganized the Trump team is, or how mentally unstable their boss is, or both!

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:34:38am

re: #68 darthstar

Mele Kalikimaka motherfuckers….wore my new suit to my wife’s company Xmas party…

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Stylin’. Reminiscent of some of the suits Knicks announcer Clyde Frazier wears.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:36:39am

re: #71 wheat-dogg

It indicates how disorganized the Trump team is, or how mentally unstable their boss is, or both!

Just reinforcing the attitude that establishment media outlets are not trustworthy.

And his cult eats it up like groceries.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:39:46am

re: #73 makeitstop

Just reinforcing the attitude that establishment media outlets are not trustworthy.

And his cult eats it up like groceries burgers from Hardee’s.

ftfy

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:42:17am

He’s awake…

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:43:41am

re: #75 darthstar

He’s awake…

Wasn’t the news that Donald would be receiving a paycheck from the Apprentice?

Edit: Though Kellyanne did say he’d have spare time.

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lawhawk  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:53:25am

re: #75 darthstar

Reports that Trump gives a crap about American workers, especially those that voted for him, are fake and untrue.

His cabinet picks are proof that Trump lied to these marks, and the marks don’t know or care. They think that getting their wages, benefits, workplace safety, and opportunities slashed is a benefit to them.

The ones who truly benefit from this? The people who can afford the taxes.

And that’s why the Trump tax plan as it is currently construed gives the biggest tax breaks to the richest people - both in percentage terms and absolute dollar terms. Those who can least afford taxes see little to no change at all.

All the while, Trump and his minions claim the US has the highest tax burdens, the highest crime rates in decades, etc., and every single one of those economics claims is absolutely untrue.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:53:34am

re: #74 wheat-dogg

ftfy

Big Ass Frys from Carl Jr.’s

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:56:10am

re: #78 Eventual Carrion

Big Ass Frys from Carl Jr.’s

I’ve only been to Hardee’s maybe two or three times in my life, when no other palatable fast food joint was around. Was not impressed.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:58:04am

re: #76 Belafon

Wasn’t the news that Donald would be receiving a paycheck from the Apprentice?

Edit: Though Kellyanne did say he’d have spare time.

Yeah, they’re splitting hairs here.

The announcement was that he’d be executive producer. I know at least in the music biz, an executive producer gets a credit on the album without necessarily doing much.

Irving Azoff was listed as EP on my ill-fated album, and I never even met the dude.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:01:50am

re: #79 wheat-dogg

I’ve only been to Hardee’s maybe two or three times in my life, when no other palatable fast food joint was around. Was not impressed.

I think I was only there once on the fly to pick up a breakfast sandwich or something.

This site has really been struggling for me the last couple days. Very slow and memory puking and aborting.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:02:55am

re: #80 makeitstop

Yeah, they’re splitting hairs here.

The announcement was that he’d be executive producer. I know at least in the music biz, an executive producer gets a credit on the album without necessarily doing much.

Irving Azoff was listed as EP on my ill-fated album, and I never even met the dude.

Executive producer is a fancy title for “he invested money in the show.”

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:03:51am

re: #81 Eventual Carrion

I think I was only there once on the fly to pick up a breakfast sandwich or something.

This site has really been struggling for me the last couple days. Very slow and memory puking and aborting.

Disable Flash.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:05:10am

Cold meds are having their sleepytime effect now. TTYL y’all.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:05:15am

re: #79 wheat-dogg

I’ve only been to Hardee’s maybe two or three times in my life, when no other palatable fast food joint was around. Was not impressed.

I lived in California for a combined 15 years and I think I only once ate at a Hardee’s, though I was very young. I do however distinctly recall dining at Bob’s Big Boy, In-N-Out, Tommy’s, Ernie’s (a well-known Mexican restaurant in North Hollywood on Lankershim Boulevard - my dad knew Ernie Cruz) Pioneer Chicken and Jack In The Box. So Hardee’s obviously didn’t make much of an impression on me.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:06:51am

re: #83 wheat-dogg

Disable Flash.

It is. That fixed it when it was happening last time but seems to have no affect this time.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:08:17am

re: #82 wheat-dogg

Executive producer is a fancy title for “he invested money in the show.”

Pretty much, yeah. And even if he got no money at all, you know that egocentric bastard would make it a point to tune in every week to see his name on the credits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:09:10am

re: #71 wheat-dogg

It indicates how disorganized the Trump team is, or how mentally unstable their boss is, or both!

She just made an offhand, dismissive comment without worrying about the consequences. In other words, standard operating procedure.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:10:51am

re: #86 Eventual Carrion

It is. That fixed it when it was happening last time but seems to have no affect this time.

Killing Flash works pretty often, but sometimes the plugin just keeps trying to reload and the site goes completely pokey. I think it has to do with how ads are being served, because it seems to be a random thing.

That said, it got so bad the other day I gave up and subscribed to make it stop, so to speak.

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BigPapa  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:11:47am

Russia didn’t meddle to necessarily help Trump: they wanted to undermine confidence in the outcome and damage Clinton’s legitimacy as the presumed President. Trump’s win probably surprised Putin as much as Trump.

It must be heady times in Moscow the last few weeks.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:14:14am

re: #63 wheat-dogg

This would all be a great premise for a blockbuster thriller, “soon to be a major motion picture.” Needs a hero/heroine to save the day, though. Otherwise, it turns into another dystopian SF novel.

“DON’T WORRY!!! BERNIE WILL COME RIDING IN TO SAVE TEH DAY!!!”

(-‸ლ)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:17:13am

re: #90 BigPapa

Russia didn’t meddle to necessarily help Trump: they wanted to undermine confidence in the outcome and damage Clinton’s legitimacy as the presumed President. Trump’s win probably surprised Putin as much as Trump.

It must be heady times in Moscow the last few weeks.

He had a lot of reasons to favor Trump over Clinton. It was a win-win situation either way, but it seems that he won bigly and in a major way. I’ll bet he is already getting tired of how winning he is.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:18:45am

The ragegasm du jour on Twitter is Russia influencing the election. My tweetstorm:

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:18:58am

Given how Trump has gone out of his way to demean and insult the CIA throughout his campaign (and especially in the statement last night), do you think that there might be a shitload of spooks just dying to get a good measure of payback on him?

Who knows, maybe we’ll see a really damaging leak - of the ‘dead girl/live boy’ variety - on the eve of the inauguration.

(This is my equivalent of wishing to win the lottery, but it could happen.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:19:53am

re: #94 makeitstop

Given how Trump has gone out of his way to demean and insult the CIA throughout his campaign (and especially in the statement last night), do you think that there might be a shitload of spooks just dying to get a good measure of payback on him?

Who knows, maybe we’ll see a really damaging leak - of the ‘dead girl/live boy’ variety - on the eve of the inauguration.

(This is my equivalent of wishing to win the lottery, but it could happen.)

Trump does forget how much he depends on the good graces of a lot of people he cannot fire…namely most of the government.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:20:04am

re: #93 darthstar

The ragegasm du jour on Twitter is Russia influencing the election. My tweetstorm:

That doesn’t mean they didn’t have some influence.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:20:06am

re: #59 Alyosha

Oh that. Well, that kind of idiocy burrows deep down beneath malicious stupidity and starts scraping on the rocks that encase veritable dementia. Rage destroys your brain.

And countries again.

It’s like Mad Cow Disease, only with tainted cows like Rush, Alex Jones and Trump infecting the populace.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:21:27am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump does forget how much he depends on the good graces of a lot of people he cannot fire…namely most of the government.

I think they think they can fire them. They definitely want to change the rules so they can.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:21:36am

re: #96 Belafon

That doesn’t mean they didn’t have some influence.

That’s not my point.

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BigPapa  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:22:59am

re: #93 darthstar

The ragegasm du jour on Twitter is Russia influencing the election.

Are you suggesting Russia feeding Wikileaks DNC emails in multiple batches for weeks before the DNC then again before the General had a negligible impact on the election?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:23:00am

re: #98 Belafon

I think they think they can fire them. They definitely want to change the rules so they can.

There are a lot of people he can theoretically fire, but not really people who can be easily replaced on short notice

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:23:21am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump does forget how much he depends on the good graces of a lot of people he cannot fire…namely most of the government.

The CIA turning on the FBI - especially Comey - is very plausible.

It’s a true nightmare scenario.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:24:24am

re: #100 BigPapa

Are you suggesting Russia feeding Wikileaks DNC emails in multiple batches for weeks before the DNC then again before the General had a negligible impact on the election?

No, I’m just commenting on people reacting emotionally to the news.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:26:32am

re: #102 Myron Falwell (no relation)

The CIA turning on the FBI - especially Comey - is very plausible.

It’s a true nightmare scenario.

A dream scenario for Putin…as long as they are infighting, there is less time and attention devoted to what they are supposed to be doing.

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BigPapa  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:26:49am

re: #103 darthstar

No, I’m just commenting on people reacting emotionally to the news.

It’s pretty significant news. That should go without saying.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:27:05am

re: #103 darthstar

No, I’m just commenting on people reacting emotionally to the news.

Here’s part of it…I’m probably talking out my ass and I forgot to include examples like Berniebros and Deplorables and Nasty Women and shit, but I’m still waking up after an alcohol fueled night in a Hawaiian themed Xmas suit.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:28:51am

re: #105 BigPapa

It’s pretty significant news. That should go without saying.

Agreed. And I’m interested in finding out where exactly they had an impact. Was there an effort in the three states that cost her the election that coordinated with Trump? That would be grounds for impeachment…and big fuckin’ news. I won’t speculate though as there’s more than enough of that out there already.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:29:02am

re: #103 darthstar

No, I’m just commenting on people reacting emotionally to the news.

I think if anything deserves an emotional reaction, it would be our global foe actively tampering with, and actually changing the outcome of a presidential election.

I personally am having a very hard time staying calm about this. They could run the same plays and possibly affect every general election going forward.

That’s nothing to be sanguine about if you ask me.

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BigPapa  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:30:03am
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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:33:06am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are a lot of people he can theoretically fire, but not really people who can be easily replaced on short notice

I wonder if they care.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:34:47am

Anyone else here old enough to remember how a botched attempt at accessing DNC information cost a president his job? All over (FB, IRL) I am seeing people shrugging and saying “whatcha gonna do in this crazy new hi-tech world?”

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:37:44am

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else here old enough to remember how a botched attempt at accessing DNC information cost a president his job? All over (FB, IRL) I am seeing people shrugging and saying “whatcha gonna do in this crazy new hi-tech world?”

“Punish the people doing it? If it was easy for someone to break into your house, would you let them do it?”

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mmmirele  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:38:31am

Okay, I’m an Old (“get off my lawn!” *shakes fist*) and I’ve said this before, but I never, ever thought I’d see a time where the GOP was cozying up to the Russians. I mean, back in the day that would have gotten you accusations you were an evil Commie symp. Granted, Russia isn’t communist anymore, it’s some sort of kleptocratic plutocracy, but the Russians do not have America’s best interests in mind, so why are is the GOP snuggling up with Putin? And why does a progressive Democrat like me have to sit there and go, “wait, this is just WEIRD” in response?

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:44:12am

Check out the article title in the Enquirer shown in this Daily Kos diary:

Muslim Spies in Obama’s CIA
INFESTED: 25 Double Agents Exposed
TORTURE: Why we must not stop waterboarding or close Guantanamo.
PLUGGING LEAKS will DESTORY ISIS!

The guy writing the diary got the manager to come over and ask her why she sells them. As he said, the point was to plant into the other customer’s minds doubts about the titles.

Edit: Just to note, the Enquirer is now working on discrediting the CIA.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:46:24am

re: #110 Belafon

I wonder if they care.

They do not, they are just unaware of the consequences.

But I forgot: these people are not familiar with the concept of personal consequences.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:50:10am

re: #113 mmmirele

Okay, I’m an Old (“get off my lawn!” *shakes fist*) and I’ve said this before, but I never, ever thought I’d see a time where the GOP was cozying up to the Russians. I mean, back in the day that would have gotten you accusations you were an evil Commie symp.

Same here. As I said yesterday, even ‘Rockefeller Republicans’ would look at Mitch McConnell’s disgusting statement about ‘partisan politics’ regarding Russia and would have taken him behind the Capitol and beat the living snot out of him.

And this general Republican support of Putin leads me to believe that none of this is as haphazard as it looks on the surface. I think Putin has whispered in Trump’s ear that if they joined forces they could own the world, and those craven sons of bitches have signed on, to a man.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:59:44am

Yeah, it seems like it was 2015 or maybe even earlier when I started hearing this minor drone of “if only Obama had balls like Putin….”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:01:59am

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, it seems like it was 2015 or maybe even earlier when I started hearing this minor drone of “if only Obama had balls like Putin….”

Putin rode horses bareback and bare-chested and killed bears with his bare hands.

Obama wore mom jeans and went cycling with a helmet. Any question to these people on who is more “manly”?

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:02:07am

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, it seems like it was 2015 or maybe even earlier when I started hearing this minor drone of “if only Obama had balls like Putin….”

Which is pretty ironic, because you can see in just about every photo of the two of them that Putin is more than a little afraid of Obama.

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BigPapa  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:04:12am

Putin was afraid of Clinton.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:06:23am

The correct response to McConnell is “Of course it’s partisan. I’m very partisan toward the United States, and very wary of Russia. As you should be, Mitch. It sounds to me like Russia has you on a leash.”

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Jayleia  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:10:01am

re: #114 Belafon

Edit: Just to note, the Enquirer FSB is now working on discrediting the CIA.

FTFY

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:23:19am

Oh my.

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BeachDem  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:24:22am

re: #107 darthstar

Agreed. And I’m interested in finding out where exactly they had an impact. Was there an effort in the three states that cost her the election that coordinated with Trump? That would be grounds for impeachment…and big fuckin’ news. I won’t speculate though as there’s more than enough of that out there already.

The twitter threads mentioned in this post from last night kind of say yes, specifically that Paul Manafort, who has known Russian connections (and who supposedly had long since left the Trump campaign), sent memos to concentrate on WI and MI.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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bratwurst  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:24:47am

I am so confused…this great leader of men needs to explain the threshold for when something “Serious” becomes “news”.

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Jayleia  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:25:32am

So, apparently our politics for the next few months/years can be summed up like this…

Drowning Pool - Bodies

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:26:33am

re: #125 bratwurst

I’ll have to reply to him later, specifically with a call. But if Russians have been hacking for a while, shouldn’t you be taking it very seriously that they might be interfering with an election?

Yes, I know he’s a party-over-country type.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:27:07am

re: #123 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Oh my.

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The guy who ran McCain’s last presidential run.

Maybe Walnuts is really gonna walk the walk this time. I still have my doubts, but I guess anything’s possible.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:28:12am

re: #125 bratwurst

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I am so confused…this great leader of men needs to explain the threshold for when something “Serious” becomes “news”.

When it involves a Democrat.

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jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:30:28am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cannot really fault the the Russians: they saw a weakened electoral system full of possibilities for manipulation and took advantage of it using a minimum of resources (a handful of young hackers) in order to weaken one of their chief competitors for dominance on the world stage.

Not to mention leveraging the greed of our one-percenter boardroom class.

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BeachDem  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:31:24am

re: #125 bratwurst

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I am so confused…this great leader of men needs to explain the threshold for when something “Serious” becomes “news”.

Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed, will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten.
—1984

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:35:53am

re: #83 wheat-dogg

Disable Flash.

Good day Lizards.

Some of the issues with this site have nothing to do with Flash. I’ve had that disabled for a long time. Something in the ads loading keeps loading and loading and loading some more and the next thing you know you are at a resource limit and you are typing s…..l…..o…..w…..if you can type at all. Chrome is the worst, Firefox a bit better.

Yesterday morning was a mess. No matter how many times I would shut down the browser and then come back in it would take about 5 minutes and out of resources again. I have one computer I pretty much use for web browsing so I can keep personal info and other stuff of it just in case. It is such that is has all the RAM it can take so. My other computers are for work and I try not to use them for the ‘net.

This morning so far not so bad. We’ll see how long that lasts.I’m trying to dig up the money to buy a damn subscription, but the end of the year is just a bitch for having enough…house and car insurance and property taxes coming up are just more important.

Modern problems…and then there is TRUMP.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:39:39am

re: #125 bratwurst

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I am so confused…this great leader of men needs to explain the threshold for when something “Serious” becomes “news”.

It’s as if the GOP united to project their entire campaign strategy — the nominee repeatedly breaking the law, a campaign staff immersed in scandal and espionage, untold conflicts of interest, engaging in widespread voter fraud — onto Hillary.

We could be seeing something where the vast majority of the Republican Party knowingly broke the law or were complicit in breaking the law. I hope I’m dead wrong, but consider who we’re dealing with. This is really bad.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:41:45am

re: #81 Eventual Carrion

re: #132 ObserverArt

For what it’s worth, LGF loads just fine on my iPhone (mainly because Flash doesn’t work on Safari). Occasionally some pages may forcibly reload in the event of 600+ comments, but again, that’s pretty rare.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:44:39am
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:45:53am

Santa on a unicycle playing fiery bagpipes anyone?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:51:10am

re: #136 Unshaken Defiance

Santa on a unicycle playing fiery bagpipes anyone?

littlegreenfootballs.com

Keep(ing) Portland Weird.

Good old PDX. I miss the place sometimes. :)

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:51:22am

re: #119 makeitstop

Which is pretty ironic, because you can see in just about every photo of the two of them that Putin is more than a little afraid of Obama.

Putin’s actions show he’s a scared little man and he needs a stupid puppet like Trump to manipulate. He knew he couldn’t manipulate Clinton since she actually has principles.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:51:37am

re: #113 mmmirele

Okay, I’m an Old (“get off my lawn!” *shakes fist*) and I’ve said this before, but I never, ever thought I’d see a time where the GOP was cozying up to the Russians.

Well I, for one, am going to miss President Obama ‘pallin’ around with terrorists.’

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Jayleia  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:52:27am

re: #133 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I hope I’m dead wrong, but consider who we’re dealing with. This is really bad.

To bring back an old quote that was very true back in the surprisingly sane times of the Bush administration…

The Trump administration-elect and the GOP is not only worse than you imagine even after taking account of the fact that it is worse than you imagine, it is worse than you can conceivably imagine.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:53:22am

re: #132 ObserverArt

If you have adblock, try disabling individual elements until you locate the offending ad.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:05:54am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:06:12am

Let me show you my shocked face…. No really.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:08:29am

re: #143 Dave In Austin

Even evil has standards.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:09:09am

re: #143 Dave In Austin

Let me show you my shocked face…. No really.

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He was pretty pissed about Comey’s actions before the election. I think the guy is still an asshole personally but he’s right here.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:09:47am

re: #144 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Even evil has standards.

The mob helped us during the Allied invasion of Sicily in WWII.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:11:52am
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Donkey With No Name  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:14:22am

re: #142 darthstar

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So… ?

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:14:53am
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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:16:09am

re: #148 Donkey With No Name

So… ?

This isn’t supposed to happen to us.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:17:15am

re: #149 darthstar

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This is the least believable Bond film since Connery’s moon buggy chase in “Diamonds are Forever.”

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:18:27am

Is this info about Russian influence and how it is being said Obama held back and the GOP not wanting it released what GOP consultant Rick Wilson was always tweeting about during the last month?

He was saying right up to the last week before the election the info was there it just needed to be released, etc. A lot of people grew a bit tired wondering if there was anything or if Wilson was just toying with everyone.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:20:12am

re: #152 ObserverArt

Is this info about Russian influence and how it is being said Obama held back and the GOP not wanting it released what GOP consultant Rick Wilson was always tweeting about during the last month?

He was saying right up to the last week before the election the info was there it just needed to be released, etc. A lot of people grew a bit tired wondering if there was anything or if Wilson was just toying with everyone.

Dunno. I think you’re on to something there though.

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:23:14am

re: #141 Amory Blaine

If you have adblock, try disabling individual elements until you locate the offending ad.

No, not running Adblock or anything like that. I won’t do that to Charles.

I think Charles is aware there are problems with some of the ads. He mentioned something about it the other night.

Or, he is being evil and is forcing people to subscribe! //////

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:24:17am

re: #154 ObserverArt

All my ad issues went away when I gave Charles the $59.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:25:21am

re: #155 darthstar

All my ad issues went away when I gave Charles the $59.

I figure I spend enough time here with you good people it shouldn’t be miserable because of invasive ads that fuck with the browser.

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:27:01am

re: #142 darthstar

Sean McCabe @darthstar99

I’m just glad the USA has never meddled in other countries’ elections to try and get a favorable result.
12:05 PM - 10 Dec 2016 * California, USA

Always trying to be clever aren’t you? Why don’t you just say it…we are getting what we give and we have nothing to stand on because America has mucked about in other’s election many times. I’d be fine with that.

But it doesn’t alter the fact that if all this is true, Trump and company used it against us for his gain.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:27:43am

It just dawned on me.

What’s the likelihood that Alex Jones’ “Fake News List” is meant as a cover for his fans should Alex HIMSELF be implicated as a co-conspirator?

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wrenchwench  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:29:37am

I bet none of them are Reality Based Steves:

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Jayleia  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:29:51am

re: #158 Myron Falwell (no relation)

It just dawned on me.

What’s the likelihood that Alex Jones’ “Fake News List” is meant as a cover for his fans should Alex be implicated as a co-conspirator?

Let’s just say I think that the 93% chance Hillary had of winning is considerably LOWER than the chance Alex is implicated in this somehow.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:31:02am
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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:32:01am

re: #159 wrenchwench

I bet none of them are Reality Based Steves:

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They all look like foxes. Watch out chickens!

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:33:38am

re: #157 ObserverArt

Always trying to be clever aren’t you? Why don’t you just say it…we are getting what we give and we have nothing to stand on because America has mucked about in other’s election many times. I’d be fine with that.

But it doesn’t alter the fact that if all this is true, Trump and company used it against us for his gain.

Oh, we have plenty to stand on. But yes, I’m old enough to remember trying to influence the Palestinian elections and then helping Israel starve them out because we didn’t like the result. And then there’s the Iraq thing…that’s meddling too, but on a larger scale.

I just think we’ve become an online nation of rage junkies and we’re looking for any excuse to be angry enough to justify not respecting the fact that we lost. It sucks, and we’ve got a long four years of real battles to fight with Trump and the GOP holding both houses. That’s what I’m saving my energy for.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:34:29am

re: #159 wrenchwench

I bet none of them are Reality Based Steves:

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Long live Steve!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:34:43am

Watching the reactions to the Trump/Russia/CIA news today, I can’t help thinking that the ground on the right has been perfectly prepared for this. Large swaths of the Right simply reject it out of hand, because they don’t want to believe it and they’ve had 40 years of their leaders telling them that anyone who tells them what they don’t want to believe is lying.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:35:20am

re: #163 darthstar

Oh, we have plenty to stand on. But yes, I’m old enough to remember trying to influence the Palestinian elections and then helping Israel starve them out because we didn’t like the result. And then there’s the Iraq thing…that’s meddling too, but on a larger scale.

I just think we’ve become an online nation of rage junkies and we’re looking for any excuse to be angry enough to justify not respecting the fact that we lost. It sucks, and we’ve got a long four years of real battles to fight with Trump and the GOP holding both houses. That’s what I’m saving my energy for.

Dude Joe Walsh is pissed off about this. It’s not just a we lost thing. It’s the fact that our election was interfered with to push someone completely unqualified for the job. And FWIW it wasn’t right when we did it either.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:37:37am

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

Watching the reactions to the Trump/Russia/CIA news today, I can’t help thinking that the ground on the right has been perfectly prepared for this. Large swaths of the Right simply reject it out of hand, because they don’t want to believe it and they’ve had 40 years of their leaders telling them that anyone who tells them what they don’t want to believe is lying.

We have a lot of people that do not want to admit they are wrong. And with something on this large of a scale, I’m not sure they know how to face the consequences.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:38:06am

A Compilation as such…….

corrupt.af

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:39:19am

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

Watching the reactions to the Trump/Russia/CIA news today, I can’t help thinking that the ground on the right has been perfectly prepared for this. Large swaths of the Right simply reject it out of hand, because they don’t want to believe it and they’ve had 40 years of their leaders telling them that anyone who tells them what they don’t want to believe is lying.

For many of them, admitting the left is right about something may as well be admitting that Al Queda or the Soviet Union was right. Their leaders have programmed them to think any thing left of Reagan is UnAmerican.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:40:16am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Dude Joe Walsh is pissed off about this. It’s not just a we lost thing. It’s the fact that our election was interfered with to push someone completely unqualified for the job. And FWIW it wasn’t right when we did it either.

I saw that. And the congressional hearings will be good TV I’m sure. I’m interested in learning the details of what, exactly, the Russians did. I’m not going to learn that in a 2 hour twitter session.

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wrenchwench  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:40:29am

With this number of retweets, and the number of followers he and I have in common, some of y’all have seen that already.

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darthstar  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:41:04am

Alright…gotta jet. Have a good day everyone. Try to do something fun. It’s Saturday.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:41:26am

re: #170 darthstar

I saw that. And the congressional hearings will be good TV I’m sure. I’m interested in learning the details of what, exactly, the Russians did. I’m not going to learn that in a 2 hour twitter session.

Well I’m in the same boat. I want to know what happened. I want to know why Comey felt it necessary to release the Clinton details but held back on releasing stuff on Trump and the Russians.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:41:27am

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

Many of them would accept the GOP rank-and-file suspending the government and letting Putin take control directly. It’s how far gone they are.

This “fake news” bullshit did not emerge from a vacuum. It’s a preemptive strike to discredit any sources and cast doubt because they know they will be caught.

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scottslemmons  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:41:56am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

For many of them, admitting the left is right about something may as well be admitting that Al Queda or the Soviet Union was right. Their leaders have programmed them to think any thing left of Reagan is UnAmerican.

I wonder how destructive the cognitive dissonance is for some of them. Because they hate the Russians, they love the Russians, they hate the Russians, they love the Russians, they they hate the Russians, they love the Russians, they they hate the Russians, they love the Russians…

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blueraven  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:42:32am

re: #163 darthstar

Oh, we have plenty to stand on. But yes, I’m old enough to remember trying to influence the Palestinian elections and then helping Israel starve them out because we didn’t like the result. And then there’s the Iraq thing…that’s meddling too, but on a larger scale.

I just think we’ve become an online nation of rage junkies and we’re looking for any excuse to be angry enough to justify not respecting the fact that we lost. It sucks, and we’ve got a long four years of real battles to fight with Trump and the GOP holding both houses. That’s what I’m saving my energy for.

Such bullshit. Sure, we have interfered, as has Russia, but not to this extent. And it is not normal for republicans (and you) to act like this is not a huge deal. This is Watergate on steroids. This is a major threat to our democracy. It is not just about which party won.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:42:58am

re: #152 ObserverArt

Is this info about Russian influence and how it is being said Obama held back and the GOP not wanting it released what GOP consultant Rick Wilson was always tweeting about during the last month?

He was saying right up to the last week before the election the info was there it just needed to be released, etc. A lot of people grew a bit tired wondering if there was anything or if Wilson was just toying with everyone.

Had it come out before the election, it would have been roundly dismissed as partisan interference. Obama has a very sound sense of timing.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:43:42am

re: #175 scottslemmons

I wonder how destructive the cognitive dissonance is for some of them. Because they hate the Russians, they love the Russians, they hate the Russians, they love the Russians, they they hate the Russians, they love the Russians, they they hate the Russians, they love the Russians…

I honestly don’t know but it’s going to be ugly when these people realize they’ve been played for suckers if they ever do.

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allegro  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:44:27am

re: #157 ObserverArt

But it doesn’t alter the fact that if all this is true, Trump and company used it against us for his gain.

This. It isn’t surprising that other countries hack our systems, gain intel with whatever means necessary etc. That’s the way of the world and the jobs of our law enforcement and intel agencies to block and fight, also by any means available.

It’s OUR OWN colluding with them, including our own FBI and elected officials, to damage our country and citizens for their own personal gain that is so fucking shocking to me. The implications of this are serious and frightening.

Anyone thinking we’re just looking for something to be pissed about when millions of us are about to lose our health insurance and it has already been promised we’re about to lose or have our SS benefits slashed can take their privilege and fuck right off.

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wrenchwench  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:45:03am

re: #172 darthstar

Alright…gotta jet. Have a good day everyone. Try to do something fun. It’s Saturday.

‘Alright’ ain’t a word.

I’ve worked every Saturday but five since 1987. I sell fun. I have fun when it finds me.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:45:10am

As a reminder for when you talk to people about this, when someone got a hold of Coca Cola’s recipe and gave it to Pepsi, Pepsi called the police and Coca Cola.

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scottslemmons  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:46:14am

re: #176 blueraven

Such bullshit. Sure, we have interfered, as has Russia, but not to this extent. And it is not normal for republicans (and you) to act like this is not a huge deal. This is Watergate on steroids. This is a major threat to our democracy. It is not just about which party won.

People will die because Trump is in office. Muslims, Hispanics, African-Americans, LGBT people, women, poor suckers who have the bad luck to be in the Army when Trump decides he wants to invade Iran and North Korea and Saudi Arabia and France and California and who knows where else.

Saying “Oh, well, nothing to do for it, gotta save my energy for something important” is stupid as fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:46:25am

re: #181 Belafon

As a reminder for when you talk to people about this, when someone got a hold of Coca Cola’s recipe and gave it to Pepsi, Pepsi called the police and Coca Cola.

Basically the GOP has less ethics than a soft drink company.

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mmmirele  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:48:17am

When I was a teenager in the long-ago 1970s, I read a political potboiler by Allen Drury called “Come Nineveh, Come Tyre.” Drury got a lot of shit wrong—he thought the “revolution” would be from the left and he played up leftist tropes. (IMHO, Drury was an idiot on that, but that’s the way people thought back then.) What Drury appears to have gotten right is that we elected a president who is cozy with Russia. And at the end of the book, the combined US/USSR flag was flapping from the flagpoles in DC.

I’m NOT recommending anyone read the book, because it was a political potboiler and, as I said, Drury really laid on the leftist tropes, which was quite stupid because the US is, in many ways, a rather conservative country. But it’s the end result that came back to my mind recently and, well, you know…never thought I’d see it. I might still see it, except the flag will be the white, blue and red of the Russian Federation.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:48:33am

I don’t see why we shouldn’t be pissed. I mean it’s one thing when I was disappointed when Kerry lost to Bush in 2004 but that wasn’t with foreign interference and that wasn’t with someone who was so completely out of touch with reality and had no idea how to run a country. This whole thing just stinks to hell. Trump is a ratfucking bastard and I hate that I have to refer to him as President Elect when I write stuff for my job.

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:48:38am

re: #170 darthstar

I saw that. And the congressional hearings will be good TV I’m sure. I’m interested in learning the details of what, exactly, the Russians did. I’m not going to learn that in a 2 hour twitter session.

Yeah, but maybe you want to be cool and sit back and watch. But, there are a lot of people that are not prepared for this kind of meddling and so they are going to be raging. I say let them. This is still America and they have the rights to do it.

And if it leads to more people being aware they might learn some lessons and be on the lookout in the future. And who knows, maybe enough rage builds and they really take it to congress and force something to be done about it.

I say let it play out and let people be who they are.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:50:07am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t know but it’s going to be ugly when these people realize they’ve been played for suckers if they ever do.

Even IF this is as bad and as widespread as we fear it is, and the absolute worst case scenario comes to fruition, there will still be a core group that will anoint whomever takes the fall as political martyrs. It won’t be the entire 46% voting block, but still enough of a sizable group that will not only refuse to accept this, but could try to take matters into their own hands.

That is incredibly frightening.

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wrenchwench  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:51:28am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

I don’t see why we shouldn’t be pissed. I mean it’s one thing when I was disappointed when Kerry lost to Bush in 2004 but that wasn’t with foreign interference and that wasn’t with someone who was so completely out of touch with reality and had no idea how to run a country. This whole thing just stinks to hell. Trump is a ratfucking bastard and I hate that I have to refer to him as President Elect when I write stuff for my job.

Some people see emotions as unproductive and distracting from the task at hand.

I think empathy is impossible without emotion. I think empathy is what it’s all about.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:52:16am

re: #188 wrenchwench

Some people see emotions as unproductive and distracting from the task at hand.

I think empathy is impossible without emotion. I think empathy is what it’s all about.

I agree. For there to be empathy, there needs to be emotion.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:53:33am

Well Christmas is in two weeks, shopping complete. I’ve come to realize that I like getting people calendars in addition to books.

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blueraven  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:55:13am
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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:55:38am

re: #174 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Many of them would accept the GOP rank-and-file suspending the government and letting Putin take control directly. It’s how far gone they are.

This “fake news” bullshit did not emerge from a vacuum. It’s a preemptive strike to discredit any sources and cast doubt because they know they will be caught.

Yep, It is the smoke cloud to make the viewing difficult…oil out the tailpipe to slicken the street, and the chaff released to confuse the missiles.

Trump is all about obfuscation, his whole life has been nothing but misdirection…tool of the con.

Watch for the pea under these three shells! Awwww…you loose, $20!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:56:39am

re: #191 blueraven

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They’ll be missed. Man his daughters have grown up so much.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:58:34am

re: #163 darthstar

Oh, we have plenty to stand on. But yes, I’m old enough to remember trying to influence the Palestinian elections and then helping Israel starve them out because we didn’t like the result. And then there’s the Iraq thing…that’s meddling too, but on a larger scale.

I just think we’ve become an online nation of rage junkies and we’re looking for any excuse to be angry enough to justify not respecting the fact that we lost. It sucks, and we’ve got a long four years of real battles to fight with Trump and the GOP holding both houses. That’s what I’m saving my energy for.

I’ll tell you what has me not just outraged, but also deeply concerned - It has been obvious since last year that Trump was very, very soft on Russia. Disconcertingly so. Here’s a guy who’s constantly harping on how weak Obama is, and how we need a strongman to stand up to our enemies.

Except Russia.

Then there was the Convention, where the Trump campaign pretty much let the crazy Right put together their wildest dreams of militarism, theocracy, and plutocracy, with absolutely no interference, or even the slightest hint of giving a shit about any of it.

Except Russia.

Then there’s all his Foreign Policy stuff from the campaign, and the debates, where he believes any crazy conspiracy theory about any group or country, as long as it’s negative.

Except Russia.

Back in July, we largely assumed the platform thing on the Ukraine was Manafort. But when Manafort left, Trump continued his embrace of Putin.

In an election where everything counted, the steady drip of the Podesta emails from Wikileaks, combined with the breathless response of the press to each new release just worked to drive down enthusiasm. Did that, in and of itself, lose the election? Hard to say, but 100,000 votes in 3 states go the other way, and we’re all talking about how Clinton has a mandate with her 3 Million vote victory.

What is so disturbing to me is not only just how unbelievably, openly Trump is siding with Putin against our own Intelligence Community, but also that the GOP is going along with it, that they’re willing to accept Putin’s help installing Trump, turning a blind eye, just for the chance to fuck 99% of America to enrich 1%.

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bratwurst  Dec 10, 2016 • 9:58:54am

re: #186 ObserverArt

Yeah, but maybe you want to be cool and sit back and watch. But, there are a lot of people that are not prepared for this kind of meddling and so they are going to be raging. I say let them. This is still America and they have the rights to do it.

And if it leads to more people being aware they might learn some lessons and be on the lookout in the future. And who knows, maybe enough rage builds and they really take it to congress and force something to be done about it.

I say let it play out and let people be who they are.

My theory is that he is doing a tribute to Killgore Trout act here lately…along the lines of:

You are outraged about the wrong things…which makes you infantile, unlike ME who is outraged about the CORRECT things.

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:00:03am

re: #181 Belafon

As a reminder for when you talk to people about this, when someone got a hold of Coca Cola’s recipe and gave it to Pepsi, Pepsi called the police and Coca Cola.

What…you don’t want Trumpo’cola???

I can’t imagine why, /

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:05:10am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

They’ll be missed. Man his daughters have grown up so much.

Simply a good solid American family and damn fine looking too. More class than many…Imma not mentioning names!

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blueraven  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:05:12am

Andrea Mitchell NBC, reporting Trump will name Rex Tillerson (Exxon CEO and friend of Russia) SOS.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:06:53am

re: #198 blueraven

Andrea Mitchell NBC, reporting Trump will name Rex Tillerson (Exxon CEO and friend of Russia) SOS.

Sheesh.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:06:55am

re: #198 blueraven

Andrea Mitchell NBC, reporting Trump will name Rex Tillerson (Exxon CEO and friend of Russia) SOS.

Considering he’s been given a title by Russia will make him instantly unconstitutional.

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:07:48am

re: #195 bratwurst

My theory is that he is doing a tribute to Killgore Trout act here lately…along the lines of:

You are outraged about the wrong things…which makes you infantile, unlike ME who is outraged about the CORRECT things.

Shhhhh! I’m trying to be stealthy. /

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:07:56am

Question for history buffs: Has there ever been a revolution when the country is doing relatively well economically?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:08:29am

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

What is so disturbing to me is not only just how unbelievably, openly Trump is siding with Putin against our own Intelligence Community, but also that the GOP is going along with it, that they’re willing to accept Putin’s help installing Trump, turning a blind eye, just for the chance to fuck 99% of America to enrich 1%.

Then you have the real possibility that the FBI actively went against the CIA. Thus, one branch of the intelligence community turned on another branch to knowingly interfere with the election, acting in alliance with Putin.

I’m not as outraged as much as I am fucking terrified.

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stpaulbear  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:09:04am

This seems like a good Saturday story. Someone trying to make things better with a sense of humor and some generosity with his time.

Pants-less Mike Pence Look-Alike Collects Donations for Planned Parenthood, Says VP-Elect’s Policies Make Him ‘Afraid’

In a sobering post-election period, Glen Pannell has figured out a way to make us smile — one pants-less donation at a time.

The graphic designer and actor bears more than a passing resemblance to Vice President-elect Mike Pence, and now he is using that genetic stroke of luck to help others as a part of a tongue-in-cheek impersonation that also raises money for causes close to his heart.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:12:08am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t know but it’s going to be ugly when these people realize they’ve been played for suckers if they ever do.

My guess is they’re going to double down on racism and start using the guns they’ve been stockpiling for the last 8 years.

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Kafitrar  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:13:37am

One of my friends is happy that the “neoliberal wing” of the Democratic Party is dead. Now the true progressives can retake the party and lead us to glory. He’s been touting Rep. Ellison for DNC chair. I pointed out that Ellison would be a part-timer (before his recent announcement that he’d resign if made chair). My friend replied that he’d rather have a part-time true progressive than a full-time neoliberal, like Gov. Dean. To his credit he voted for Sec. Clinton in Virginia. But, still.

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sagehen  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:28:36am

re: #163 darthstar

Oh, we have plenty to stand on. But yes, I’m old enough to remember trying to influence the Palestinian elections and then helping Israel starve them out because we didn’t like the result. And then there’s the Iraq thing…that’s meddling too, but on a larger scale.

I just think we’ve become an online nation of rage junkies and we’re looking for any excuse to be angry enough to justify not respecting the fact that we lost. It sucks, and we’ve got a long four years of real battles to fight with Trump and the GOP holding both houses. That’s what I’m saving my energy for.

When we meddle in other countries’ elections… yes the winner still wins and still takes office.

But knowledge of the meddling enrages that country’s citizens, and limits the puppet’s ability to carry out the patron’s agenda.

All the information needs to be made public. ALL OF IT.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:31:39am

re: #200 Belafon

Considering he’s been given a title by Russia will make him instantly unconstitutional.

Yes, but let’s face it; the GOP couldn’t care less about the Constitution.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:32:38am

re: #206 Kafitrar

One of my friends is happy that the “neoliberal wing” of the Democratic Party is dead. Now the true progressives can retake the party and lead us to glory. He’s been touting Rep. Ellison for DNC chair. I pointed out that Ellison would be a part-timer (before his recent announcement that he’d resign if made chair). My friend replied that he’d rather have a part-time true progressive than a full-time neoliberal, like Gov. Dean. To his credit he voted for Sec. Clinton in Virginia. But, still.

Wonder if he knows that a lot of the “Neoliberal” Dem establishment is backing Ellison. Honestly, I’m sick of this purity shit about “Neoliberals”, the party is honestly more progressive than it ever has been. Those who look to the 60’s ignore that the party still had Jim Crow believers in it then.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 10, 2016 • 10:38:21am

re: #191 blueraven

I bet next years Trump Christmas card will make us miss Obama a whole lot more.


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