Saturday Weirdness: Moon Hooch, NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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People ask me all the time to name my favorite Tiny Desk Concert. It’s my desk and I’ve seen almost all of the nearly 400 concerts up close. So you’d think this would be easy. Moon Hooch have made it a lot easier.

Up there with the ear-shaking voice of Adele, the desk dancing of Gogol Bordello, the stripped down version of Phoenix — not to mention magic moments with Alt-J, Angel Olsen and Lucius and more — Moon Hooch blew me away with just two saxes and a drummer. Their music is a mix of the best jazz, EDM and rock have to offer. It’s out there, it’s danceable and you may find yourself feeling a sense of reckless abandon!

The band is saxophonists Mike Wilbur and Wenzl McGowen, and drummer James Muschler. They all studied in New York at the New School for Jazz and Contemporary Music, and every single moment of every song I’ve ever seen them perform has been full throttle. They call their music “cave music,” taking the best elements of electronica — the brutal stops, starts and shifts — and performing those unnaturally precise hairpin turns organically by blowing on horns and banging on drums. This for the boldness in all of us. Embrace Moon Hooch. —BOB BOILEN

Set List

“Tubes”
“Number 9”
“Bari 3”

Credits

Producers: Bob Boilen, Denise DeBelius; Audio Engineer: Kevin Wait; Videographers: Denise DeBelius, Olivia Merrion; Production Assistant: Alex Schelldorf; photo by Alex Schelldorf/NPR

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181 comments
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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:09:37pm

Those guys are out there. When you posted ‘EWI,’ I thought maybe that was the fringe of their material.

Now it seems more like the single.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:14:15pm

This one’s hilarious…

Moon Hooch - Cattle Dance Party

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:23:10pm

OK, I am probably heading into tinfoil territory but something just occurred to me.

Trump started up with the “this election will be Brexit X10” around the same time as Comey’s Clinton email bullshit started and around the same time he started bring Nigel Farage on the campaign trail.
I am now wondering how much Russian influence was a part of the Brexit vote to undermine the EU.

As I said…I’m heading into tinfoil territory right now and I do not like it one bit.

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stpaulbear  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:27:17pm

This is the theme for next week in MN. I had a work meeting near Lutsen MN cancelled and now I’m glad. I checked WeatherUnderground and the high for the day of the meeting (at an unheated building) is forecast to be -1 F.

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retired cynic  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:29:31pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

This one’s hilarious…

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Zowee. That looks like my countryside here! I love the bovine expressions.

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TedStriker  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:32:19pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, I am probably heading into tinfoil territory but something just occurred to me.

Trump started up with the “this election will be Brexit X10” around the same time as Comey’s Clinton email bullshit started and around the same time he started bring Nigel Farage on the campaign trail.
I am now wondering how much Russian influence was a part of the Brexit vote to undermine the EU.

As I said…I’m heading into tinfoil territory right now and I do not like it one bit.

That is definitely not tinfoil territory; given what we know or suspect already about how Putin & Co. have and are trying to sow electoral chaos here and (currently) in Germany, it wouldn’t surprise me if the Russians gave material support to the pro-Brexit forces.

Look at it: America, Britain, Germany, all being distracted from external threats because of major domestic electoral shenanigans (and all are NATO members). It’s Putin’s wet dream come true.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:34:40pm

I’ve spent the day unfriending Busters and Jill Shills on Facebook as well as blocking them on Twitter. Am utterly amazed at how they are lining up with Republicans to denounce these news reports about Putin manipulating the election. Every last one of them believe these are Clinton falsifications.

I believe folks are correct that the political spectrum is shaped like a circle and there is a point where extreme left fuses with extreme right!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:34:53pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, I am probably heading into tinfoil territory but something just occurred to me.

Trump started up with the “this election will be Brexit X10” around the same time as Comey’s Clinton email bullshit started and around the same time he started bring Nigel Farage on the campaign trail.
I am now wondering how much Russian influence was a part of the Brexit vote to undermine the EU.

As I said…I’m heading into tinfoil territory right now and I do not like it one bit.

I don’t think that’s Tinfoil hat territory at all. The Russians had a lot to gain by Breexit succeeding and Trump winning. What’s bothering me is how many people seem to just accept this and treat Trump as normal.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:35:32pm

re: #7 Joe Bacon

I’ve spent the day unfriending Busters and Jill Shills on Facebook as well as blocking them on Twitter. Am utterly amazed at how they are lining up with Republicans to denounce these news reports about Putin manipulating the election. Every last one of them believe these are Clinton falsifications.

I believe folks are correct that the political spectrum is shaped like a circle and there is a point where extreme left fuses with extreme right!

They (the extreme left) hate the moderate left more than they do the right.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:37:44pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, I am probably heading into tinfoil territory but something just occurred to me.

Trump started up with the “this election will be Brexit X10” around the same time as Comey’s Clinton email bullshit started and around the same time he started bring Nigel Farage on the campaign trail.
I am now wondering how much Russian influence was a part of the Brexit vote to undermine the EU.

As I said…I’m heading into tinfoil territory right now and I do not like it one bit.

I don’t believe you’re anywhere near tinfoil territory! Putin figured the best way to make sure that nobody checks his territorial advances is to destabilize states that could stand in his way. And something tells me that Putin and his pals are just sitting on an awful lot of documents gleaned from GOP servers that they’re using to blackmail a lot of Republicans right now!

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BeachDem  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:38:33pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, I am probably heading into tinfoil territory but something just occurred to me.

Trump started up with the “this election will be Brexit X10” around the same time as Comey’s Clinton email bullshit started and around the same time he started bring Nigel Farage on the campaign trail.
I am now wondering how much Russian influence was a part of the Brexit vote to undermine the EU.

As I said…I’m heading into tinfoil territory right now and I do not like it one bit.

I’ve not totally donned a cap yet, but I am admiring of the flattering reflective qualities of foil! Sometimes the dots actually connect.

(Hey, I’m still mulling over whether there’s a connection between Nikki Haley being appointed UN Ambassador and Trump helping Boeing keep unions out of South Carolina—with his little tweet fight about AF1 as cover.)

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:47:13pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

This one’s hilarious…

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It’s like the cattle started to leave and then thought ‘Wait a sec, this ain’t bad.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:48:39pm

re: #6 TedStriker

re: #8 HappyWarrior

re: #11 BeachDem

Thanks, all.
My spidey senses went on alert the very first time Trump compared this election to Brexit and then he kept doubling down.
I was thinking at the time: WTF is it with him and Brexit?
Then this Russian shenanigans comes out and I’m just gobsmacked that there are people in power in DC (looking at YOU Mitch McConnell) who don’t think this is any kind of big deal.

Nothin’ to see here…move on…

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:49:58pm

re: #12 makeitstop

It’s like the cattle started to leave and then thought ‘Wait a sec, this ain’t bad.’

Hire those guys to round up Cliven Bundy’s cattle! 🤣

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jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:50:36pm

Listen to the man who can’t run 100 yards.

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JasonA  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:51:28pm
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Quiet Storm  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:51:35pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course not. It gave them the power they crave. Any means to an end.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:52:59pm

re: #16 JasonA

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And it’s that kind of talk why I refuse to go along with those who think Trump should get a chance. Sorry, he doesn’t get that from me after doing that shit show he called a campaign.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:53:29pm

re: #10 Joe Bacon

I don’t believe you’re anywhere near tinfoil territory! Putin figured the best way to make sure that nobody checks his territorial advances is to destabilize states that could stand in his way. And something tells me that Putin and his pals are just sitting on an awful lot of documents gleaned from GOP servers that they’re using to blackmail a lot of Republicans right now!

If it’s true and the entire GOP - or at least the majority of it - is compromised, then Putin will have accomplished what the USSR always wanted to do, and he’ll have done it without firing a single shot.

And I guess we can think of the blackmail of the GOP as Putin’s version of a non-disclosure agreement.

This pisses me off more and more every day. Trump and his adopted party sold us down the fucking river.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:54:13pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks, all.
My spidey senses went on alert the very first time Trump compared this election to Brexit and then he kept doubling down.
I was thinking at the time: WTF is it with him and Brexit?
Then this Russian shenanigans comes out and I’m just gobsmacked that there are people in power in DC (looking at YOU Mitch McConnell) who don’t think this is any kind of big deal.

Nothin’ to see here…move on…

At this point, we have no choice but to assume that the vast majority of Republicans are all guilty as charged… until proven otherwise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:54:56pm

re: #15 jaunte

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Listen to the man who can’t run 100 yards.

He probably can’t even walk 100 yards without assistance.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:55:50pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

He probably can’t even walk 100 yards without assistance.

But he’s in the best health of anyone who ever ran for President, just ask his physician, Dr. Nguyen Van Phouc.

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jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:56:53pm

We’re never going to be able to trust that the Republican congressmen aren’t working under some form of coercion.

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jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:58:12pm

Some Trump supporters are beginning to wonder if they’ve been had.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:58:15pm

re: #23 jaunte

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We’re never going to be able to trust that the Republican congressmen aren’t working under some form of coercion.

Nor should we.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 4:59:11pm

re: #24 jaunte

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Some Trump supporters are beginning to wonder if they’ve been had.

Note to the Trumpette, he never gave a fuck about you. He just cared about using your rage to get himself power. No love, me.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:00:02pm

From downstairs (re: the Electoral College reversing a Trump win)

re: #45 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately, you’re right. The country would explode in violence. Not a good deal of organized violence per se, but more sporadic, violent lone-wolf type events.

And if it doesn’t happen, and the entire GOP is revealed to be agents of Putin… the country will simply blow up.

Best case scenario, California, New York and other Democrat states vote to walk away and the First Nations declare and fight for independence.

Worst case scenario, you’ll have another Bosnian war and political ideological cleansing in each state.

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Quiet Storm  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:01:48pm

re: #24 jaunte

Oh? What finally gave them a clue?

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:01:58pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Note to the Trumpette, he never gave a fuck about you. He just cared about using your rage to get himself power. No love, me.

And I’m still unfriending and blocking Berniebusters and Jill Shills who keep posting “but Killery would be worse…”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:02:52pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon

And I’m still unfriending and blocking Berniebusters and Jill Shills who keep posting “but Killery would be worse…”

Yeah fuck them. They’re even worse IMO. They sold us out because Hillary wasn’t perfect enough for them and didn’t promise them the ponies that Bernie and Jill were.

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scottslemmons  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:04:18pm

re: #27 Myron Falwell (no relation)

From downstairs (re: the Electoral College reversing a Trump win)

And if it doesn’t happen, and the entire GOP is revealed to be agents of Putin… the country will simply blow up.

Best case scenario, California, New York and other Democrat states vote to walk away and the First Nations declare and fight for independence.

Worst case scenario, you’ll have another Bosnian war and political ideological cleansing in each state.

I deeply, deeply don’t like hearing liberals talking about secession. It was treason when the Confederates did it. It’s treason when anyone else does it. Let’s not give up on what the Founders, the North, and every freedom fighter fought and died for.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:04:22pm

I wasn’t a huge Clinton fan but you know what, of everyone who ran for President this time, she had the greatest understanding of government and of the issues important to our world. She had flaws yes but I have no doubt in my mind at all that she would have been a better President than Trump or any of the Republicans but also Bernie and the other Democratic candidates. So many people in this country don’t want a President. They want someone who affirms their prejudices.

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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:05:02pm

re: #23 jaunte

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We’re never going to be able to trust that the Republican congressmen aren’t working under some form of coercion.

Who knows what kind of fucked up, icky shit he’s got on those SOBs.

I’d bet that most of them are into one or more forms of deviant behavior.

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jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:05:04pm

The DonaldTrumpWall timeline is chock full of racism and jew-hate. What a sewer.

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Quiet Storm  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:05:24pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon

I have some that keep doing the “I told you Bernie would have won.” Talk about delusional.

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Honey Punch!  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:06:02pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am now wondering how much Russian influence was a part of the Brexit vote to undermine the EU.

Wasn’t some sketchy character named Boris involved in that?
//

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:06:20pm

re: #34 jaunte

The DonaldTrumpWall timeline is chock full of racism and jew-hate. What a sewer.

I imagine he only hates GS because he thinks it’s full of Jews.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:07:07pm

re: #35 Quiet Storm

I have some that keep doing the “I told you Bernie would have won.” Talk about delusional.

Bernie had Republican poor numbers among key elements of the Democratic base in the primary. The way he and his supporters disregarded them really pissed me off.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:10:33pm

re: #35 Quiet Storm

I have some that keep doing the “I told you Bernie would have won.” Talk about delusional.

Here’s the truth! The Republicans would have started attacking Bernie for those sex articles he wrote in the 70s. Then they would have moved on to his being an elector for the Socialist Workers Party in 1980. Then they would have brought up his deadbeat dad status and how he stole electric power from a neighbor when he didn’t pay his bill. The cherry on the cake would have been going after his wife’s bungling of her college’s finances. And then they would top it off with Bernie giving away things for free (just like the GOP blasted McGovern’s support of the Negative Income Tax idea which would have given everyone a minimum income for everyone in 1972).

Bernie would have been SLAUGHTERED in the popular vote, probably getting a lower percentage than McGovern got in 1972 and he would have been the worst beaten Democrat ever only carrying 6 electoral votes totaled from Vermont and DC.

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:10:40pm

re: #7 Joe Bacon

I’ve spent the day unfriending Busters and Jill Shills on Facebook as well as blocking them on Twitter. Am utterly amazed at how they are lining up with Republicans to denounce these news reports about Putin manipulating the election. Every last one of them believe these are Clinton falsifications.

I believe folks are correct that the political spectrum is shaped like a circle and there is a point where extreme left fuses with extreme right!

Can’t be displayed ‘nuff!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:11:18pm

Just got back from dinner. Took my wife out for our 11th Anniversary to the location(resturant has changed) of our first date-where I took her to watch the Cubs playoff game- The Bartman Game.

While at dinner, I let out a loud cheer right about 7. Today overall was a good day.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:13:23pm
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JasonA  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:13:25pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:13:51pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Note to the Trumpette, he never gave a fuck about you. He just cared about using your rage to get himself power. No love, me.

Give them time. They’ll come around to the obvious conclusion that this is all Hillary’s/Obama’s fault.

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Quiet Storm  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:15:29pm

re: #39 Joe Bacon

Most of them know nothing about him except his campaign promises. You also forgot to mention his honeymoon in Russia, his wanting to get rid of all the military, and he might not be practicing but in many parts of the country being Jewish is a death knell.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:16:37pm

re: #31 scottslemmons

I deeply, deeply don’t like hearing liberals talking about secession. It was treason when the Confederates did it. It’s treason when anyone else does it. Let’s not give up on what the Founders, the North, and every freedom fighter fought and died for.

When the Federal Government is compromised beyond repair with a Russian-controlled Republican leadership that wants to impose a reincarnation of the Intolerable Acts (destruction of Medicare/SSI, shutting down public education, criminalising all LGBT, deporting 12M people, forcibly destroying all unions) and own all the cards WRT an equally tainted judicial system… what recourse is there?

Civil war and widespread rioting is inevitable. Unless the Republican Party is criminalised and shut down permanently, the Republic can’t be saved.

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Skip Intro  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:17:30pm

I can’t wait to see who Trump pulls out of the swamp for his first SC justice.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:19:22pm

re: #47 Skip Intro

I can’t wait to see who Trump pulls out of the swamp for his first SC justice.

He’ll screw the Heritage Society over and pick another billionaire named Steve.

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:21:14pm

re: #48 Myron Falwell (no relation)

He’ll screw the Heritage Society over and pick another billionaire named Steve.

“$teve”

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:21:23pm

re: #48 Myron Falwell (no relation)

He’ll screw the Heritage Society over and pick another billionaire named Steve.

Or a baseball manager.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:22:02pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:23:02pm

re: #48 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I was thinking more along the lines of an Allen West.

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Skip Intro  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:24:18pm

re: #52 Skip Intro

Or Michelle Bachmann. She’s a lawyer, right?

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TedStriker  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:24:54pm

re: #31 scottslemmons

I deeply, deeply don’t like hearing liberals talking about secession. It was treason when the Confederates did it. It’s treason when anyone else does it. Let’s not give up on what the Founders, the North, and every freedom fighter fought and died for.

This x 1000.

The question of whether secession should be allowed was already answered with a metric fuckton of blood and treasure over 150 years ago.

Never again.

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JasonA  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:24:58pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

He could end up needing Ted’s vote, though.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:25:41pm

re: #47 Skip Intro

I can’t wait to see who Trump pulls out of the swamp for SC justice.

Just the thought of His Ass-Holeyness nominating Jay Sekulow to the Supreme Court sends chills down my spine!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:25:45pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Or Michelle Bachmann. She’s a lawyer, right?

She’s completely crazy and as far right as they come, but not rich enough. Also a woman.

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Quiet Storm  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:26:39pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

And also not a 10

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Interesting Times  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:28:10pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:29:13pm

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:30:56pm

re: #54 TedStriker

This x 1000.

The question of whether secession should be allowed was already answered with a metric fuckton of blood and treasure over 150 years ago.

Never again.

Except one side never let it go, refused to acknowledge defeat, and let that ideology flow right out in the open this past election cycle. And now they are poised to take over and exact their Dominionist punishment on a majority of people.

We know who that side is.

How can this republic last when one side DOESN’T want it to?

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:31:00pm
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b.d.  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:31:47pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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Yep, Trump’s Supreme Court picks are going to make Harriet Miers look like Oliver Wendell Holmes.

I wonder if the Heritage folks know how much he plans on ignoring them?

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blueraven  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:33:20pm

Nichols can be a real Ass, but on Russia, I want to hear him.

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TedStriker  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:35:53pm

re: #61 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Except one side never let it go, refused to acknowledge defeat, and let that ideology flow right out in the open this past election cycle. And now they are poised to take over and exact their Dominionist punishment on a majority of people.

We know who that side is.

Then we do what our forebears did: we fight.

FIght them in the halls of government, fight them with protests in the street, fight them however we can, because the promise to the world that is the United States of America, a government by the people, of the people, and for the people, for liberty and justice for all, should still be worth fighting for.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:38:42pm

re: #43 JasonA

I love the description for the image that Reuters used…lol!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:40:33pm

Teen Vogue has emerged as a bastion of sanity. TEEN FUCKING VOGUE.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:41:18pm

TrumpHulk not happy. Block Joe Walsh for speaking truth.

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TedStriker  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:44:27pm

re: #68 wheat-dogg

TrumpHulk not happy. Block Joe Walsh for speaking truth.

That’s hilarious…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:44:28pm

re: #47 Skip Intro

I can’t wait to see who Trump pulls out of the swamp for his first SC justice.

Jeanine Ducklips Pirro

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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:44:31pm
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electrotek  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:45:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:47:53pm
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makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:50:08pm

re: #64 blueraven

Nichols can be a real Ass, but on Russia, I want to hear him.

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Not sure if I buy this:

Nevertheless, Kalugin allowed that if the FSB and GRU were responsible and Putin was now sitting on crucial information about various GOP officials, it would be reckless and dangerous to try and blackmail the White House directly. High-level officials, such as cabinet secretaries, have rarely been cultivated as spies or informants of Moscow, owing to what Kalugin characterizes as “potential repercussions.”

Middle and lower-cadre officials in the State Department or military-industrial complex are deemed easier and better marks for the spooks.

In this hypothetical, a heretofore semi-anonymous RNC staffer who may have written something professionally or personally damaging to himself is likelier to find himself approached by a Russian operative and offered a chance to switch sides than a member of the National Security Council.

“Just one man can destroy everything,” Kalugin said. “He doesn’t have to be the president.”

This, of course, assumes that Putin hasn’t blackmailed Trump already. I believe he has, probably a result of something that took place during Trump’s trip to Russia for the Miss Universe pageant.

And whatever it is, it’s plenty bad. Trump has already rolled over and surrendered.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:50:12pm

re: #72 electrotek

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It’s time to send an SOS to The Doctor since Allen West has gone Full Dalek!

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:50:21pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

My wife just said the same thing.

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scottslemmons  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:51:41pm

re: #65 TedStriker

Then we do what our forebears did: we fight.

FIght them in the halls of government, fight them with protests in the street, fight them however we can, because the promise to the world that is the United States of America, a government by the people, of the people, and for the people, for liberty and justice for all, should still be worth fighting for.

Yeppers.

To throw away America and to abandon hundreds of millions of innocent people to life under Trump is saying Lincoln was a fool, MLK and thousands of Freedom Marchers were unimportant. It’s saying that we’re willing to let Steve Bannon and his neo-Nazis do whatever they want to vulnerable people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:52:13pm

re: #74 makeitstop

Not sure if I buy this:

This, of course, assumes that Putin hasn’t blackmailed Trump already. I believe he has, probably a result of something that took place during Trump’s trip to Russia for the Miss Universe pageant.

And whatever it is, it’s plenty bad. Trump has already rolled over and surrendered.

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is a blini restaurant in Moscow with a maze of underground tunnels and a child sex trafficking ring on the side.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:53:06pm

Brother John Cleese has Seen The Light!

John Cleese - Church of JC Capitalist

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TedStriker  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:53:34pm

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is a blini restaurant in Moscow with a maze of underground tunnels and a child sex trafficking ring on the side.

I see what you did there….

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ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:54:56pm

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is a blini restaurant in Moscow with a maze of underground tunnels and a child sex trafficking ring on the side.

Until I see proof there isn’t I believe there is. Otherwise, we would know more!

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:55:07pm

re: #65 TedStriker

Then we do what our forebears did: we fight.

FIght them in the halls of government, fight them with protests in the street, fight them however we can, because the promise to the world that is the United States of America, a government by the people, of the people, and for the people, for liberty and justice for all, should still be worth fighting for.

The Republicans are daring for unrest to happen because they think they can suppress it. It’s funny because a similar line of thought was conventional wisdom at the beginning of the civil war.

But because the polarization is so bad, this could also be lengthy and painful.

83
Skip Intro  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:55:11pm

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

Trump Tunnels.

84
makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:56:32pm

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is a blini restaurant in Moscow with a maze of underground tunnels and a child sex trafficking ring on the side.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump’s hotel room was bugged and set up with cameras to record his every move while he was there.

And given that Trump is a sex pig, and given his fascination with his own teenage daughter, it would have been ridiculously easy to walk him right into the mother of all honey traps.

That’s what I believe happened in Russia, and that’s what I believe Putin has got sitting in a safe somewhere in the Kremlin.

85
Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:58:22pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

Trump only cares what Walsh thinks because he’s a fellow scumbag who treats women like crap, thus Trump had to block him. You’re a nice guy so you’ll have to work harder to get The Block.

It makes TrumpSense to me so I’m sticking with it. :)

86
Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 5:58:28pm

re: #84 makeitstop

And I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump’s hotel room was bugged and set up with cameras to record his every move while he was there.

And given that Trump is a sex pig, and given his fascination with his own teenage daughter, it would have been ridiculously easy to walk him right into the mother of all honey traps.

That’s what I believe happened in Russia, and that’s what I believe Putin has got sitting in a safe somewhere in the Kremlin.

Hmmm, I wonder what all those RepubliKKKlan Pulpit Pimps will say if those Honey Trap pics are ever leaked. Oh hell, we know what those Pulpit Pimps will say!

“Jesus forgave Brother Trump and washed his sins so he was as clean as snow…”

87
jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:00:18pm

Twitter-verified idiocy.

88
scottslemmons  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:01:02pm

re: #84 makeitstop

And I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump’s hotel room was bugged and set up with cameras to record his every move while he was there.

And given that Trump is a sex pig, and given his fascination with his own teenage daughter, it would have been ridiculously easy to walk him right into the mother of all honey traps.

That’s what I believe happened in Russia, and that’s what I believe Putin has got sitting in a safe somewhere in the Kremlin.

I’m sure they’ve got plenty of blackmail material, but I doubt they’ll ever need it. Trump aspires to be a Puntinesque strongman/gangster — I’m sure his natural instincts are to do everything Putin wants him to…

89
FormerDirtDart  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:01:53pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Or Michelle Bachmann. She’s a lawyer, right?

Michele Bachmann was a Tax Lawyer, worked in the IRS. I can see her as Trump’s Commissioner of Internal Revenue

90
scottslemmons  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:04:09pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

Michele Bachmann was a Tax Lawyer, worked in the IRS. I can see her as Trump’s Commissioner of Internal Revenue

She might turn him down for that, though. She wants to be in charge of torturing heretics.

91
Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:06:43pm

re: #82 Myron Falwell (no relation)

The Republicans are daring for unrest to happen because they think they can suppress it. It’s funny because a similar line of thought was conventional wisdom at the beginning of the civil war.

But because the polarization is so bad, this could also be lengthy and painful.

I don’t want the fight, but it will be painful without it if Trump succeeds in destroying the government. I have kids to fight for.

92
Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:07:27pm
93
electrotek  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:08:28pm

This was in Australia, btw:

94
Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:11:23pm
95
Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:11:38pm

Trump is a bully, and he’s surrounded himself with lackeys. Since some of those in charge are on his side, we’re not going to be able to run to the authorities until he does something so bad that it can’t be ignored. So the only way to fight this bully is to realize there are more of us than him, and to stick together.

96
PhillyPretzel  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:12:58pm

re: #95 Belafon

Exactly. “United We Stand Divided We Fall.”

97
FormerDirtDart  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:14:01pm
98
lockjawcanbefun  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:14:27pm

The original tweeter is a hack from the Toronto Sun, which is the city’s choice for emergency toilet paper and conservative talking points. In that order.

99
Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:15:07pm
100
Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:15:12pm

re: #91 Belafon

I don’t want the fight, but it will be painful without it if Trump succeeds in destroying the government. I have kids to fight for.

It will be a necessary fight. Especially if this level of corruption in the Republican Party is revealed to be even worse than our worst nightmares can comprehend.

101
Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:17:49pm
102
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:19:13pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

And not just in America.

103
Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:21:03pm
104
Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:22:27pm

I fucking hate 2016.

105
jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:22:28pm
106
jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:22:40pm

107
Sherlock Hound  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:24:01pm

re: #31 scottslemmons

I deeply, deeply don’t like hearing liberals talking about secession. It was treason when the Confederates did it. It’s treason when anyone else does it. Let’s not give up on what the Founders, the North, and every freedom fighter fought and died for.

We as Americans have never been through the living experience. No one living in the Confederacy, before or after, is still around to recount their memories.

I suspect those memories would be a shit show. California brags about having an economy good enough for Calexit, but when Texas Republicans wanted to do the same thing, Texas business says “Haha LOL WHUT?” I’m not sure Calexit has any more of a case.

What about the East Coast? My own state of Massachusetts won’t want to secede—we have a Republican governor (who I’m not sure isn’t in Putin’s orbit.)

It is making me out of my mind, shit scared.

108
Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:25:43pm

One of McCain’s aides:

109
jaunte  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:27:13pm
110
Unshaken Defiance  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:27:29pm

So just for the flying heck of it I filled out Twitter Verification form. I very much doubt I’ll get one but who knows?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:27:46pm

re: #95 Belafon

Trump is a bully, and he’s surrounded himself with lackeys. Since some of those in charge are on his side, we’re not going to be able to run to the authorities until he does something so bad that it can’t be ignored. So the only way to fight this bully is to realize there are more of us than him, and to stick together.

He’s popular only in a decided minority. Right after the inauguration, his ratings will crash back to base level and never rise again. And that’s without the inevitable news that he’s a Putin agent, along with others in the GOP.

Practically anything and everything he’s proposing is an invitation for widespread rebellion, violence and bloodshed. Possibly even worse.

112
TedStriker  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:29:06pm

re: #109 jaunte

John Dean…as in Watergate John Dean?

113
Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:29:16pm
114
A wild WITHAK appeared!  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:30:21pm

Hey, everybody.

There are currently 15 or so nine-year-olds in my house (sounds like eight times that many) and I am hiding upstairs to get away from the noise. Figured now is as good a time as any to return to the LGF fold.

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TedStriker  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:31:05pm

re: #114 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Hey, everybody.

There are currently 15 or so nine-year-olds in my house (sounds like eight times that many) and I am hiding upstairs to get away from the noise. Figured now is as good a time as any to return to the LGF fold.

Ahhh, a slumber party.

You poor bastard…

///

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:33:24pm

re: #115 TedStriker

Ahhh, a slumber party.

You poor bastard…

///

Fortunately, there will be no slumbering, just a party. They are leaving in half an hour, and then we pick up the pieces.

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William Lewis  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:33:24pm

re: #110 Unshaken Defiance

So just for the flying heck of it I filled out Twitter Verification form. I very much doubt I’ll get one but who knows?

You aren’t a Nazi. That’s all Twitter wants these days.

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William Lewis  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:34:42pm

re: #112 TedStriker

John Dean…as in Watergate John Dean?

From Wiki:

Dean is currently an author, columnist, and commentator on contemporary politics, strongly critical of Neo-Conservativism and the Republican Party, and is a registered Independent who supported the efforts to impeach President George W. Bush.[2]

So, yeah, it could well be him.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:35:48pm

re: #117 William Lewis

You aren’t a Nazi. That’s all Twitter wants these days.

I think it takes more than that to get the blue checkmark. LOL maybe they will give me one of those that was revoked from say Milo Y. //

120
teleskiguy  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:35:56pm

re: #117 William Lewis

You aren’t a Nazi. That’s all Twitter wants these days.

Sorry William, your perceptions of Twitter are quite misguided. Maybe it’s because you get subjected to the worst aspects of it here at LGF. It doesn’t get talked about but there’s a lot of good things about Twitter too.

121
Eventual Carrion  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:38:42pm

re: #87 jaunte

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Twitter-verified idiocy.

Since the pres requested an audit back to 2008 we should be able to find out.

122
Stanley Sea  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:40:03pm

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

fucking tweet that.

123
teleskiguy  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:41:43pm

The guy is slime.

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Cheechako  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:41:46pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately there is no mechanism in the Constitution for a “do-over”. We’re stuck with the EC as the last line of defense. It would be great if more information comes out before the 19th.

Right now trump is +74 in EV votes. I don’t think that will be the final vote tally. I think he will come out of the EC with +60 to 65 votes.

Anyone else have a prediction?

Edit: I got the numbers wrong. Right now trump has 306 EVs. Just 36 above the 270 required. If just 19 EC voters switch from trump to Hillary, then the election reverses.

125
goddamnedfrank  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:44:50pm

Just finished modding a couple of NERF Zombie Strike Hammershot blasters, took out the air restrictors, greased up the pistons & o-rings and installed 8Kg upgrade springs. Now these fuckers shred.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:50:08pm
127
Stanley Sea  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:50:35pm

very cool

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:54:04pm

The Dallas Morning News readers aren’t happy about Sam Johnson’s proposal for “fixing” Social Security: dallasnews.com. Click to view comments at the bottom of the message.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:54:10pm

re: #120 teleskiguy

Sorry William, your perceptions of Twitter are quite misguided. Maybe it’s because you get subjected to the worst aspects of it here at LGF. It doesn’t get talked about but there’s a lot of good things about Twitter too.

Agree. There are still a lot of good things about Twitter, and I for one am not ready to abandon it yet.

130
The Vicious Babushka  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:54:26pm

fuck it

131
PhillyPretzel  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:54:42pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

And Trump wants to sue this paper for doing what it has been doing for a long time. He is so frustrating.

132
HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:55:02pm

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

fuck it

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Can’t say I’m surprised there. But yeah.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:55:13pm

I finally got around to writing my letter to the editor about Trump’s cabinet choices:

If you haven’t been paying attention to Donald Trump’s nominees for cabinet and other positions, you need to start. All of your lives will be affected one way or another if they are confirmed. For example:

1. Betsy Devos, Trump’s nominee for the Secretary of Education, hates public education. She pushed for charter schools in Michigan, decimating funding for public schools. And then she prevented charter schools from being regulated, ruining them as well. Michigan’s education system is crumbling.
2. Tom Price, Secretary of Health and Human Services pick, not only wants to get rid of the Affordable Care Act, but privatize Medicare as well.
3. Steven Mnuchin, Treasury Secretary pick, made a huge portion of his money by foreclosing on homeowners through shady means.
4. Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State. He’s the head of Exxon, and has ties to Russia, notably in drilling in Siberia. He wants sanctions placed against Russia for annexing Crimea removed so that Exxon can continue it’s work.

Please find out for yourself who he has chosen, and figure out how they will affect you. One way or another, we and the people we love will be affected by these people being in office.

I had 200 words to work in; this is 199.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:56:17pm

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

fuck it

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From what I understood, it was a longshot anyway. I did donate to the Democrat’s campaign under a little hope.

135
Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:56:23pm

You don’t win political battles by relinquishing the public square to the enemy.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:56:41pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

very cool

As I mentioned when Glenn passed, my mom’s aunt knew him and many of the early astronauts and Glenn lived not too far from where my Dad grew up. We lost a great American hero in Glenn. It was so awesome when he went back to space because it was really a generation transcending event.

137
A wild WITHAK appeared!  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:57:03pm

re: #133 Belafon

The it’s in point #4 should be its. Great letter, especially given the wordcount limit.

138
HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:58:00pm

re: #134 Belafon

From what I understood, it was a longshot anyway. I did donate to the Democrat’s campaign under a little hope.

It’s frustrating how in many states that there’s little chance for a Democrat period. As I’ve said, it’s a real struggle to get to voters in states who are outright hostile to much of our values as a party.

139
HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:58:31pm

Started watching Quarry on Cinemax. Only one episode in but this looks like a keeper.

140
Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:58:55pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

You don’t win political battles by relinquishing the public square to the enemy.

Which is why we Democrats really need to write a whole lot of LTEs, and call into shows like those on C-Span and our Congresspeople. We haven’t been as affective as Republicans on this.

141
Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 6:59:53pm

re: #137 A wild WITHAK appeared!

The it’s in point #4 should be its. Great letter, especially given the wordcount limit.

Thanks. Hopefully they’ll fix it since I have already submitted it. No matter how hard you try, there’s always something, as Donald Knuth found out.

142
HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:02:55pm

Every election needs to be seen as important. I don’t care if you personally think your local Republican official is a nice guy. Vote the guy out. The Republicans didn’t get a majority in this country’s legislatures by being deferential to people they knew.

143
Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:06:07pm

I had a funny thought: Elaine Chao might be a unseen gift for Democrats. When we balk at all of the nominees, we can offer her up as one of the few that we’d be OK with confirming.

144
Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:07:19pm

re: #124 Cheechako

Unfortunately there is no mechanism in the Constitution for a “do-over”. We’re stuck with the EC as the last line of defense. It would be great if more information comes out before the 19th.

Right now trump is +74 in EV votes. I don’t think that will be the final vote tally. I think he will come out of the EC with +60 to 65 votes.

Anyone else have a prediction?

Trump wins with a minimum of 275-280 electoral votes.

But then not only Trump, but the entire GOP leadership is implicated in working with Putin, thrusting us into a full-blown Constitutional crisis as they refuse to resign. And they will not impeach themselves.

Basically, two of the three branches are hopelessly compromised and illegitimate, soon to be all three branches once Trump picks an unqualified whackjob for the Supreme Court. We will have zero recourse because there was never a provision for a wholesale election do-over.

I have a horrible feeling that this is going to get terribly violent.

145
HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:08:03pm

re: #143 Belafon

I had a funny thought: Elaine Chao might be a unseen gift for Democrats. When we balk at all of the nominees, we can offer her up as one of the few that we’d be OK with confirming.

I’m thinking the same about Mattis and Kelly though he has some problems too. Gotta pick battles. The ones I have the biggest problems with so far are: Carson (completely unqualified), Tillerson(Putin buddy bud), and DeVos (avowed enemy of public education).

146
goddamnedfrank  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:09:03pm
147
Stanley Sea  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:10:54pm

re: #141 Belafon

Thanks. Hopefully they’ll fix it since I have already submitted it. No matter how hard you try, there’s always something, as Donald Knuth found out.

ain’t that the truth.

148
HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:11:31pm

I’ve never liked the GOP at all. I was raised in a partisan Democratic household but I thought you know we could at least agree we were on the same team when it came to national interest. This election man. I don’t want to hear any lectures from the right and GOP about patriotism ever again after this shit show.

149
Stanley Sea  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:19:13pm

Awwww. Bye Verne.

150
ObserverArt  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:20:31pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I’ve never liked the GOP at all. I was raised in a partisan Democratic household but I thought you know we could at least agree we were on the same team when it came to national interest. This election man. I don’t want to hear any lectures from the right and GOP about patriotism ever again after this shit show.

If there are any true patriots on the Republican side of politics now is the time for them to stand up and prove it.

This is real. If they are the true strict conservatives of the United States Constitution, as they like to call themselves, its time to stand up because some of your own are putting it to a test.

151
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:24:53pm

re: #143 Belafon

I had a funny thought: Elaine Chao might be a unseen gift for Democrats. When we balk at all of the nominees, we can offer her up as one of the few that we’d be OK with confirming.

She was awful the last time she held a Cabinet position. I see no reason that she’ll do better this time around.

152
HappyWarrior  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:26:00pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

She was awful the last time she held a Cabinet position. I see no reason that she’ll do better this time around.

I think Trump honest to God gave her a job to shut McConnell up.

153
Patricia Kayden  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:26:27pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon

And I’m still unfriending and blocking Berniebusters and Jill Shills who keep posting “but Killery would be worse…”

How would Secretary Clinton be worse? Would she appoint a White Supremacist in the Attorney General position? Or an “alt-right” to a key position? Or a global warming denier to head the EPA?

154
Patricia Kayden  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:27:44pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

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Lol!! It’s not an altogether bad movie. There are a few Samuel Jackson jokes to be had.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:29:17pm

re: #143 Belafon

I had a funny thought: Elaine Chao might be a unseen gift for Democrats. When we balk at all of the nominees, we can offer her up as one of the few that we’d be OK with confirming.

I would still block them all.

156
retired cynic  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:34:05pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

I’m thinking the same about Mattis and Kelly though he has some problems too. Gotta pick battles. The ones I have the biggest problems with so far are: Carson (completely unqualified), Tillerson(Putin buddy bud), and DeVos (avowed enemy of public education).

Add Price to that, but I am sure congressional courtesy will tilt that battle.

157
stpaulbear  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:35:01pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

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very cool

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teleskiguy  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:35:31pm

White nationalist magazine National Review cozying up to Euro-fascists.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:36:34pm
160
goddamnedfrank  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:37:04pm

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

Lol!! It’s not an altogether bad movie. There are a few Samuel Jackson jokes to be had.

161
retired cynic  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:37:32pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

White nationalist magazine National Review cozying up to Euro-fascists.

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Another very punchable face. Somehow I think a pin would deflate that and he’d fly around the room backwards.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:42:31pm

Per Jaunte’s feed

LOL

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Charles Johnson  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:42:47pm
164
Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:44:12pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

@Jack is aiding and abetting Nazism. Betcha he got paid off.

165
Stanley Sea  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:44:46pm

I’m just stumbling onto these. This is why Twitter is good.

It is bad. But it is good.

166
makeitstop  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:45:33pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

I think Trump honest to God gave her a job to shut McConnell up.

More specifically, a reward for stepping in and threatening to discredit any attempt to let people know what went on here.

167
teleskiguy  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:49:31pm
168
lockjawcanbefun  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:49:32pm

It is fun to be immature some nights.

169
goddamnedfrank  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:50:17pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

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Joe Bacon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:51:24pm

re: #153 Patricia Kayden

How would Secretary Clinton be worse? Would she appoint a White Supremacist in the Attorney General position? Or an “alt-right” to a key position? Or a global warming denier to head the EPA?

Try telling that to the brainwashed Berniebusters and Jill Shills who refer to her as Killery…

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Stanley Sea  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:53:00pm
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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:55:53pm

re: #171 Stanley Sea

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I think we can count on Teen Vogue to cut through the crap.

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Belafon  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:57:29pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

There is some very disturbing stuff in the replies.

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Jenner7  Dec 10, 2016 • 7:59:50pm

re: #171 Stanley Sea

Don’t think it matters, tbh.

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retired cynic  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:00:45pm

re: #174 Jenner7

Don’t think it matters, tbh.

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It sure has been on NPR, all day.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:03:19pm
177
The Vicious Babushka  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:04:19pm

Glenn Greenwald’s “The Intercept” is calling Washington Post “fake news”

178
Unshaken Defiance  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:05:22pm
179
Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:07:54pm

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

Glenn Greenwald’s “The Intercept” is calling Washington Post “fake news”

Good. That means there’s truth to the WaPo’s story.

Automatically take anything that Green Glennwald says and reverse it. It’s more than a lie… it’s literal mirror-speak.

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scottslemmons  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:09:24pm

re: #179 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Good. That means there’s truth to the WaPo’s story.

Automatically take anything that Green Glennwald says and reverse it. It’s more than a lie… it’s literal mirror-speak.

Right — it means he got a call from Putin to bail Trump out…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 10, 2016 • 8:43:03pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Fuck Twitter?


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