Video: CA Gov. Jerry Brown’s Powerful Speech to the American Geophysical Union

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This speech by California Governor Jerry Brown is simply incredible, and I mean that in the best way. Brown makes a passionate case for continued action on climate change, in a major push-back against the dismaying election of a virulent climate change denier, Donald Trump. Along the way, Brown calls out Breitbart “News” and the other right wing media “clowns.”

James Fallows at The Atlantic has an annotation of the speech. And as he writes, this is one of the first speeches I’ve seen since the election of the Trump Horror that has given me some hope that we can still fight back.

No “moonbeams” here; just clear vision and straight talk.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:20:24pm

I am hoping there is a large group of young people that leads the resistance against Trump. Let him know hate and segregation are NOT the ways of the future.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:31:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:32:47pm

member of trump’s transition team:

O_o

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:35:30pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Um…no there wasn’t “overwhelming evidence that the earth was flat.”

But we have a society that imagines itself to be scientific, yet does not understand empiricism, so this shit will slide by.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:35:45pm

Well done Governor Brown. Keep up the good works.

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William Lewis  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:37:14pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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“Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war”, eh, our old war criminal?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:37:22pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

member of trump’s transition team:

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O_o

There was never any “science” that the Earth was flat. This guy is a fucking idiot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:37:39pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

member of trump’s transition team:

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O_o

If only there were some method to determine what’s true, something that would involve, maybe, forming a hypothesis, and testing that hypothesis, to determine whether the hypothesis was supported by the available data….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:38:50pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

There was never any “science” that the Earth was flat. This guy is a fucking idiot.

But you gotta admit, he DOES have the usual anti-science talking points down pat!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:39:11pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

There was never any “science” that the Earth was flat. This guy is a fucking idiot.

trump only hires THE BEST, though….

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:40:30pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol. This is the same guy who fired an apprentice who was playing with a Magic 8 Ball.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:42:10pm

re: #11 PhillyPretzel

lol. This is the same guy who fired an apprentice who playing with a Magic 8 Ball.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:43:01pm

re: #4 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

There are a couple of simple tropes that they should learn and adhere to, which they wont. Anecdotes are not data nor is common sense very often common or sense.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:48:20pm

re: #13 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There are a couple of simple tropes that they learn and adhere to, which they wont. Anecdotes are not data nor is common sense very often common or sense.

Data: “Male smokers are 23 times more likely to develop lung cancer than male nonsmokers”

Anecdote: “My Grandpappy smokes a pack of unfiltered Camels every day, and he’s 90!”

Guess which one makes the biggest impression on the layman.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:48:58pm

If Cali can get another future governor as great as him, he should run for President in 2020.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:50:55pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

POLITICO ✔ @politico
Kissinger: Trump could offer “extraordinary opportunity” in foreign policy politi.co
4:30 PM - 18 Dec 2016

But but but…Hillary sought the endorsement of this man…and that was one of the reasons many left-leaning Democrats didn’t vote for her. Trump was a safer bet, maybe not as much a neocon since he is a big businessman!

Hillary went after neocons and other conservatives trying to take traditional Republicans and abandoned her base!!!

Gag. Can’t believe I typed that crap…but it was and still is out there. /

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:51:12pm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:51:41pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:53:03pm
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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:54:45pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

Data: “Male smokers are 23 times more likely to develop lung cancer than male nonsmokers”

Anecdote: “My Grandpappy smokes a pack of unfiltered Camels every day, and he’s 90!”

Guess which one makes the biggest impression on the layman.

And there is actually a reason for that. Our brains evolved in a very different world. The example I heard is: Brand X car has a great reliability record, but your neighbor bought one and it’s a lemon. So you don’t buy one. Doesn’t make sense, right?
Substitute in: No child has ever been eaten by a crocodile in this river, but yesterday a crocodile did eat a child there. Will you send your child to fetch water?

Likewise, the difficulty of accepting new information that contradicts your previous information comes from a time when there wasn’t a lot of new information around to pick up-information was precious, a thing to be retained and passed down from generation to generation.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:56:12pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

member of trump’s transition team:

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O_o

I saw that ass on TV one time.

It’s amazing how many of these slick and slimy wordsmith lawyer types Trump has speaking for him. They are all nothing but wallpaper hangers on a theater set. Behind it all are 2x4s and sandbags holding up the set. Acting!

Get ready for the most secretive administration maybe ever. They sure seem like they are going to give it a run for the record.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:56:34pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:59:14pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

There was never any “science” that the Earth was flat. This guy is a fucking idiot.

Ahh, but they were beliefs. And for a lot of ignorant deniers today all science is a belief, that is why they can teach creationism too…it’s all sold as just a belief.

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gocart mozart  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:00:13pm
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scottslemmons  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:00:26pm

...

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:02:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:02:39pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:02:42pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:03:34pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:04:26pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:04:40pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:05:04pm

Meanwhile, I’m trying to finalize my list of worthy causes so Mr. C. and I can complete the charitable donations for the year. There are too damn many good causes that need support out there. I’m thinking about adding SPLC and Nat’l Immigration Law Center, but then there’s Reporters’ Committee for Freedom of the Press, and a plethora of other groups. We’re over-represented in environmental causes (which is fine, we won’t quit giving to any of those) so I don’t have to look much farther there, at least. It’s just that I hate being too scattered with this sort of thing. It just seems like it would be more effective to give the same total amount to 5 organizations rather than 15.

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gocart mozart  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:05:12pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:06:08pm

re: #24 gocart mozart

Sure it wasn’t O’Doul’s?

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:06:27pm

re: #30 gocart mozart

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Hieronymus Bosch’s TRUMP.

Love it.

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gocart mozart  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:06:42pm

He’s back

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Interesting Times  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:08:44pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:09:18pm

re: #36 gocart mozart

These idiots want to go back to the Articles of Confederation don’t they? I thought they loved the Constitution (which arguably turned the states into a country) with a deep and abiding passion? Tell me again why I’m not really an American.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:09:38pm

re: #36 gocart mozart

These mental midgets (sorry, little people) make it so damn easy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:10:28pm

I bet you Trump will dare California to leave…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:11:32pm
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Thanos  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:13:55pm

This is good, but if Brown is setting the stage for a 2020 bid he has got to step it up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:15:31pm

re: #36 gocart mozart

He’s back

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:17:04pm

re: #42 Thanos

This is good, but if Brown is setting the stage for a 2020 bid he has got to step it up.

He’s not going to run. Among other things, he’ll be something like 82 then.

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:20:31pm

OK, time to go consult with Mr. C on the donations.
BBL

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scottslemmons  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:21:17pm

re: #44 calochortus

He’s not going to run. Among other things, he’ll be something like 82 then.

The Dems have a terribly shallow backbench. I mean, the Repubs have a whole lot of crazy dimwits who’d sell their kids into slavery for a shot at the White House, but I really can’t think of more than three or four Democrats who have enough prominence to make a credible presidential run. All we’ve got is old people who’ll be even older in 2020.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:22:28pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:22:42pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:25:24pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

Mmmm. That soup looks good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:31:30pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:32:20pm

re: #49 PhillyPretzel

Mmmm. That soup looks good.

Some bread, some soup. Good for a winter evening.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:32:26pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:33:25pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

Get it? Nope? Here’s a crayon.

Careful. He’ll probably try to eat it.

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scottslemmons  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:33:30pm

Oooo, youse guys, go to Amazon and search for Open Road Media. They have a ton of free and/or cheap e-books.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:33:36pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And this is why he is going to start years of civil unrest and violence. He is setting his “supporters” at the throats of everyone who did not vote for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:34:18pm
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makeitstop  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:35:13pm

re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White

Careful. He’ll probably try to eat it.

Is it wrong to hope he does, and chokes on it?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:36:03pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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RIP, Dahling!

I didn’t even realize she was still alive.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:36:19pm

This is where we will see the beginning of the “redemptive violence” phase of fascist governance as Trump encourages “real Americans” to silence, intimidate and punish anybody who speaks out against him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:36:29pm

re: #57 makeitstop

Is it wrong to hope he does, and chokes on it?

Only if you say it out loud.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:37:15pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

RIP Ms Gabor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:37:36pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

RIP, Dahling!

I didn’t even realize she was still alive.

barely, for quite some time.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:37:50pm
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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:38:11pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

RIP, Dahling!

I didn’t even realize she was still alive.

She used the “Dahling” meme because she (and I as well) had a very hard time remembering names and that became a way to avoid social embarrassment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:39:20pm

(for those who don’t know, Jack Kimble is a ridiculously funny parody account)

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blueraven  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:41:32pm

Ronald Reagan lived in California. I assume he voted there. Just sayin.
Nixon too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:43:40pm

re: #42 Thanos

This is good, but if Brown is setting the stage for a 2020 bid he has got to step it up.

Unfortunately Brown will be north of 80 by the 2020 elections. Time is not on his side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:43:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:45:31pm

re: #54 scottslemmons

Oooo, youse guys, go to Amazon and search for Open Road Media. They have a ton of free and/or cheap e-books.

this too:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:47:03pm

I am hoping Julian Castro runs in 2020. He’d be great.

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BeachDem  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:48:29pm

re: #63 Jebediah, RBG

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Well then if you take away Texas and Tennessee (because like, who cares, right?) it would have been tied in all the other states. (the whole idea they’re touting is idiotic, but what’s new?)

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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:49:15pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pointing out that Trump gaslights, lies and reverses himself every day is actually making him ever more popular with his base…because they see that it pisses us off.

Fact checking will not work. His voters don’t give a shit. They only care whether something Trump says makes us mad.

No, I do not know how we overcome this. I am not at all sure that it cam be, since we are now in a nihilistic phase of power by any means necessary, including threats of violence.

I think we are breaking apart as a country and the fracture will not be bandaged over easily and maybe not at all.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:49:45pm

re: #71 BeachDem

Exactly!

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mmmirele  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:52:15pm

I didn’t see this here:

Leak reveals Rex Tillerson is director of Bahamas-based US-Russian oil company

Documents from tax haven will raise more questions over suitability of Donald Trump’s pick for US secretary of state

Rex Tillerson, the businessman nominated by Donald Trump to be the next US secretary of state, is the long-time director of a US-Russian oil firm based in the tax haven of the Bahamas, leaked documents show.

Tillerson - the chief executive of ExxonMobil - has been a director of the oil company’s Russian subsidiary, Exxon Neftegas, since 1998. His name - RW Tillerson - appears next to other officers who are based at Houston, Texas; Moscow; and Sakhalin, in Russia’s far east.

The leaked 2001 document comes from the corporate registry in the Bahamas. It was one of 1.3m files given to the Germany newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung by an anonymous source. The registry is public but details of individual directors are typically incomplete or missing entirely.

Though there is nothing untoward about this directorship, it has not been reported before and is likely to raise fresh questions over Tillerson’s relationship with Russia ahead of a potentially stormy confirmation hearing by the US senate foreign relations committee.

More at the link:

theguardian.com

If you read German, the story is on Suddeutsche Zeitung’s front page.

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makeitstop  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:52:52pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(for those who don’t know, Jack Kimble is a ridiculously funny parody account)

I thought it was so bad because he was singing live - but he was lip-syncing.

They actually committed that steaming pile of meh to tape. Holy crap.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:53:30pm
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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:55:32pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Reminds me of the assholes in Virginia that want to get rid of Northern Virginia. Fine, do that and you’ll be living in the equivalent of West Virginia afterwards.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:56:26pm
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freetoken  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:57:44pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can we just get 2016 over with?

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:00:06pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is Trump’s term up yet, because I’m really getting sick of him. Time for a change.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:01:31pm

re: #80 Skip Intro

Is Trump’s term up yet, because I’m really getting sick of him. Time for a change.

His numbers are low. Impeach!

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:04:25pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:07:53pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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Dammit, I have to fix my spelling.

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:08:09pm

OxyContin goes global: ‘We’re only just getting started’

Facing a national opioid epidemic, U.S. doctors are turning away from painkillers. So Purdue Pharma is moving into Latin America, Asia, the Middle East and Africa — regions ill-prepared to deal with the ravages of addiction.

Because we’re US businessmen. We have no ethics. None. But we all love the baby Jesus more than you.

latimes.com

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Joe Bacon  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:09:49pm

re: #85 Skip Intro

OxyContin goes global: ‘We’re only just getting started’

Because were US businessmen. We have no ethics. None. But we all love the baby Jesus more than you.

latimes.com

Actually, their love affair is with Ayn Rand!

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thedopefishlives  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:11:10pm

Evening Lizardim.

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SteveMcG RN  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:13:28pm

re: #85 Skip Intro

How’d you like to be one of their sales reps when the drug cartels come a knockin’?

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stpaulbear  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:17:11pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

His numbers are low. Impeach!

Unpresident him!

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:19:55pm

re: #88 SteveMcG RN

How’d you like to be one of their sales reps when the drug cartels come a knockin’?

I wouldn’t be one. For some reason I still have ethical concerns about peddling addictive drugs to poor people. In America these days that makes you a yuuge looser.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:20:16pm

China will have “conditions” when it hands back the drone it captured.

scmp.com

They will probably demand the US scale back data collecting missions in the South China Sea.

Could Trump have possibly learned about this earlier, which prompted him to suggest that China just keep the thing?

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:21:04pm

re: #86 Joe Bacon

Their excuse is Ayn Rand. What they love is money and lots of it.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:21:35pm

re: #88 SteveMcG RN

I personally would not want to be a sales rep for that company. It might be exactly what they need for those so called execs who are only thinking about the bottom line.

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:24:03pm

One of the job requirements at Purdue Pharma.

the highest degree of ethics and integrity

Yeah, right. Just like the Trump administration.

purduepharma.com

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:26:39pm

Money Makers and Job Creators get a different set of ethics and morality.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:26:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:27:53pm

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:27:57pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Well, can’t he just put that into a blind trust run by the Trump kids?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:28:17pm

Instagram

From the January 30, 1970 cover story - SNOW MONKEYS OF JAPAN - this image ran with teh following caption: “Primate experts at Kyoto University and the Japanese Monkey Center have been studying the country’s 5,000 monkeys exhaustively for 20 years, but the relatively elusive snow monkeys have received attention only during the past decade. How these monkeys manage to survive in their bitter environment is a matter of particular interest. The scientists have discovered, for example, that the monkeys have become adapted to winter fare which other Japanese monkeys would normally never eat. But the snow monkey lifestyle is very much like that of their southern cousins. One commonly shared trait is ritual grooming, an act of affection which helps bind the trop more closely together. Above, a mother cuddles her baby while another female grooms her.” (Co Rentmeester—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images) #wildLIFEwednesday #Japan #snowmonkeys

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:31:15pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

[Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
Leak reveals Rex Tillerson is director of Bahamas-based US-Russian oil company theguardian.com
6:26 PM - 18 Dec 2016

But Robert Gates told me today on Meat The Chuck that Rex is a stand up guy and because he has worked with all different types of internationals he is better suited for the job than many.

All different types…wink, wink.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:34:40pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:35:27pm

Republicans are idiots, example # 1034.

More than half of Republicans falsely believe Trump won the popular vote, poll finds

sanluisobispo.com

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allegro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:45:34pm

I’m just starting to watch season 2 of Man in High Castle. I’m kinda scared. It has a whole new meaning now than when I watched season 1. :/

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:50:40pm

re: #103 allegro

The villains in that show are both smart and evil. Trump is just evil. I don’t know if that’s better or not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:54:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:55:42pm

Obama can say goodbye to a third term….

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:59:03pm

re: #100 ObserverArt

But Robert Gates told me today on Meat The Chuck that Rex is a stand up guy and because he has worked with all different types of internationals he is better suited for the job than many.

All different types…wink, wink.

He also said that Russia was emboldened to interfere in our election because Obama has been weak: ‘strong rhetoric with little action or consequences.’ That’s the analysis? I thought the purpose was to get the crippling sanctions lifted.

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allegro  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:04:11pm

re: #104 Skip Intro

The villains in that show are both smart and evil. Trump is just evil. I don’t know if that’s better or not.

😕

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:07:52pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Obama can say goodbye to a third term….

Who knows what will happen, but he was at the White House Correspondents Dinner as the Bin Laden raid was getting underway. Roasting Trump, as I recall. Now, I’m not getting my hopes up. There may be no flashy retribution. But I’m sure that he’s playing the secure knowledge that “steps are being taken.”

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:12:05pm

Ebay is full of crap like this.

This and silver bullets seem to be on every wingnuts Xmas wish list.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:12:05pm

Just wrote a little bookmarklet to use with New York Times articles, when you’ve exceeded your 10-free article limit for a month. You go to the page you want to read, click the bookmarklet, and it takes you to Google with that article already looked up. Then, when you click through to the article from Google it gets around the NYT paywall.

Yes, I’m too cheap to subscribe to both NYT and the Washington Post.

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jaunte  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:13:58pm

re: #110 Skip Intro

Wow, an ugly but shiny piece of art with Trump’s name on it to suck some cash out of the rubes. How appropriate.

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JasonA  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:20:04pm

Oh wow. McMullin retweeted Gus.

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jaunte  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:24:59pm
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jaunte  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:28:25pm

Tell me we’re not blissfully unaware that Russia is at war with us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:29:29pm

re: #113 JasonA

Oh wow. McMullin retweeted Gus.

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the followup is important:

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:30:28pm

re: #114 jaunte

What state referendum? Did I miss something?

This sounds like something Rage Fruby dreamed up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:31:03pm

re: #114 jaunte

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yep. The main guy behind #Calexit lived in California only a very short time and has been orchestrating all of this from where he lives in Moscow.

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jaunte  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:31:37pm

Secessionists formally launch quest for California’s independence
latimes.com

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:33:16pm

re: #119 jaunte

Secessionists formally launch quest for California’s independence
latimes.com

And going nowhere fast.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:38:23pm

re: #110 Skip Intro

Ebay is full of crap like this.

This and silver bullets seem to be on every wingnuts Xmas wish list.

That is terrible engraving.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:41:32pm

re: #117 Skip Intro

What state referendum? Did I miss something?

This sounds like something Rage Fruby dreamed up.

Or, a Russian fake news site. / or not?

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thedopefishlives  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:41:57pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. The main guy behind #CalExit lived in California only a very short time and has been orchestrating all of this from where he lives in Moscow.

Jesus fuck. Everywhere I turn these days, it’s the damn Russians.

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:42:11pm

re: #121 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That is terrible engraving.

But it’s only priced 80% more than the value of the alleged silver in it.

As one ebay idiot posted, “how can I lose?”

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:42:12pm

re: #121 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That is terrible engraving.

Apparently based on terrible art work.

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:45:01pm

re: #125 calochortus

Apparently based on terrible art work.

I’m waiting until the Trump Mint puts out the official coin.

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jaunte  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:46:23pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:49:00pm

re: #127 jaunte

I hear Sheldon Adelson is Trump’s backup pick.

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BeachDem  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:50:16pm

This is charming:

A white nationalist website aligned with the neo-Nazi “alt-right” National Policy Institute (NPI) has urged its followers to “troll” and harass the Jewish population of Whitefish, Montana.

According to missoulian.com, The Daily Stormer website put out a call on Friday for its readers to engage in a “Troll Storm” against Jews in Whitefish out of a mistaken belief that Jews have been harassing the mother of NPI president and director Richard Spencer.

rawstory.com

But, but don’t call them deplorable (or nazis); it’s all about economic anxiety…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:51:13pm

re: #128 Skip Intro

I hear Sheldon Adelson is Trump’s backup pick.

Same hairstylist.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:55:16pm

re: #126 Skip Intro

I’m waiting until the Trump Mint puts out the official coin.

Aluminum coated with a fake gold powder coat.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:02:53pm

TOMORROW IS MY BIRTHDAY!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:06:03pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

TOMORROW IS MY BIRTHDAY!

[Embedded content]

OMG

Happy Birthday!

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scottslemmons  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:06:56pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

TOMORROW IS MY BIRTHDAY!

[Embedded content]

Congratulations! You’re finally old enough to drink! :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:07:42pm

re: #134 scottslemmons

Congratulations! You’re finally old enough to drink! :)

You know you’re old enough to drink when you don’t want to.

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:07:53pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

Happy birthday! Looks like you are fully prepared.

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jaunte  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:09:51pm

re: #110 Skip Intro

Ebay is full of crap like this.

[Embedded content]

This and silver bullets seem to be on every wingnuts Xmas wish list.

That engraver must have recycled the Reagan hair.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:16:13pm

By the way, folks - if you have Amazon Prime they have a pretty amazing deal on Washington Post online subscriptions - free for 6 months, then only $3.99 a month after that.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:17:40pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:20:16pm

re: #137 jaunte

That engraver must have recycled the Reagan hair.

That one on the right is a Photoshop art filter. They probably both are. Badly done.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:21:53pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:25:24pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

TOMORROW IS MY BIRTHDAY!

[Embedded content]

Happy B-day VB!!!

Uh, those custard doughnuts look sinful. I’d hate to see you do this to yourself.

Box ‘em up, send ‘em to Columbus and I will pray for you.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:26:09pm
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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:26:31pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

Happy B-day VB!!!

Uh, those custard doughnuts look sinful. I’d hate to see you do this to yourself.

Box ‘em up, send ‘em to Columbus and I will pray for you.

That’s what I love about this place-we’re always looking out for each other.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:32:18pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:33:34pm

The doughnuts are for my birthday party at work.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:33:53pm

re: #144 calochortus

That’s what I love about this place-we’re always looking out for each other.

I’d do it for just about anyone. It all depends on the freshness of the sin.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:34:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:36:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:37:18pm

re: #144 calochortus

That’s what I love about this place-we’re always looking out for each other.

sacrifices must sometimes be made.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:39:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:43:22pm

His name is Louis Marinelli.

On paper, the leader of the California secession movement lives in an apartment complex near San Diego’s Golden Hill neighborhood. But in reality, the Calexit campaign is being run by a 30-year-old who lives and works in a city on the edge of Siberia.

Louis Marinelli heads the secessionist group Yes California. Following the election of Donald Trump to the presidency, the organization has gone from an unknown fringe group to one discussed seriously in mainstream media.

What has not been discussed as prominently is Marinelli’s deep ties to Russia.

A former right-wing activist from Buffalo, New York, Marinelli first moved to Russia almost a decade ago. He studied at St. Petersburg State University, the alma mater of Russian President Vladimir Putin. He returned to the United States to campaign against LGBTQ rights as part of the National Organization for Marriage.

Marinelli then returned to Russia. He would marry a Russian citizen, and the couple moved to San Diego, where Marinelli launched a political career based on a platform of California secession.

“I immigrated to California, and I consider myself to be a Californian,” Marinelli says from his apartment in Yekaterinburg, a city of about 1.4 million just east of the Ural Mountains and about 1,000 miles from Moscow.

more at:
ww2.kqed.org

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:52:19pm

Just more Russian ratfucking.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:54:01pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

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Working our way towards organizing the world as corporations rather than countries. Rollerball can’t be far behind.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:55:17pm

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

Just more Russian ratfucking.

I feel slightly bad for the rats.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:01:43pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

His name is Louis Marinelli.

more at:
ww2.kqed.org

And that’s causing the OTHER “CalExit” group to denounce him and them:

Excuse me a minute.

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