Electoral College Rubber-Stamps the Election of the Tiny-Fisted Fascist

PoliticsDecember 2016 • Views: 55,963

Couldn’t post this earlier today because it’s too depressing, but today the Electoral College voted to put the worst president-elect in my memory in charge of the United States.

I expected this, because the Electoral College has become a meaningless rubber stamp, instead of the safeguard against the election of an unqualified president it was intended to be.

I don’t know what to say. This country — and the world — is in for a nightmare world of hurt. We’re witnessing the early days of a disaster.

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Skip Intro Dec 19, 2016 • 7:14:32pm

Anybody else notice that Hillary lost more EVs than the orange shitgibbon?

Is there nothing the Democrats can’t fuck up?

Kragar Dec 19, 2016 • 7:20:11pm

Time to keep our options open…

teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 7:24:05pm

@davidfrum Because he’s a sociopath and suffers from an acute case of narcissistic personality disorder.

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) December 20, 2016

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Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 7:27:13pm

huffingtonpost.com

Governor Pat McCrory of North Carolina signs the bills from the state legislature sharply limiting Governor-Elect Roy Cooper’s powers when he takes office.

Mr. Trump is not the only fascist; the whole party is full of them.

Alyosha Dec 19, 2016 • 7:31:09pm

A good, solid Olbermann piece detailing sometimes small ways in which we can resist Trump.

The Electoral College has Afirmed Donald Trump. What Now? | The Resistance with Keith Olbemann | GQ

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 7:39:48pm

re: #5 Alyosha

I really liked the story Belafon posted about Act Up! and their process.

Learning from our Elder Activists

Joe Bacon Dec 19, 2016 • 7:40:30pm

re: #2 Kragar

Time to keep our options open…

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Yes, but it looks like Putin has his hand in the Calexit Cookie Jar as well…

ww2.kqed.org

Odie Hugh Manatee Dec 19, 2016 • 7:41:21pm

This ought to permanently disabuse anyone with a lick of sense of the idea that the EC was ever a safety check. The outcome is what I expected because we are truly divided against each other. I also know that the future of our country has just taken a turn for the worse because the ‘forces of darkness’ have the upper hand. A lot of people are going to hurt, suffer and die, just so assholes can get their hate on and make some money at the same time. I’ve tuned out news and just read a couple of blogs now because there’s no need for me to stress over the daily reality President TV show that Trump is putting on. Attention is one of the main dishes on the table of greed that he sits at to feed his ego. Besides that, I have HBP and I’m not letting him drive it higher. He’s going to be a walking, talking clusterfuck for at least the next four years and that’s all I need to know.

In the meantime I’ll beat up my Congressman and Senator (DeFazio/Wyden) to tell them to try to stop this racist moron from blowing up the world.

retired cynic Dec 19, 2016 • 7:43:52pm

re: #8 Odie Hugh Manatee

I have made a pledge to myself to call him DT. Certainly not President, or to use his full name. Reminds me of Delirium Tremens, too. Heh.

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 7:44:44pm

The American Dream has become the American Nightmare. #ElectoralCollege pic.twitter.com/Ttpr7Y7BwP

— bennydiego 📎 (@bennydiego) December 20, 2016

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 7:45:38pm

re: #7 Joe Bacon

Yes, but it looks like Putin has his hand in the Calexit Cookie Jar as well…

ww2.kqed.org

Basically two different Calexit groups are being pitted against each other. One of the groups (the aforementioned KQED story) is definitely tied to the Kremlin.

calochortus Dec 19, 2016 • 7:47:08pm

re: #11 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Basically two different Calexit groups are being pitted against each other. One of the groups (the aforementioned KQED story) is definitely tied to the Kremlin.

And neither of them is going anywhere. CA is not leaving the US any time soon, any more than there will be a State of Jefferson carved out of northern CA and southern OR.

Bass Reeves Dec 19, 2016 • 7:47:21pm

So, in what should have been a show of solidarity at least for the Democratic party, ~~people~~ assholes still felt the need to prove their fucking uniqueness. Some amazing resistance we’re going to put up, I can feel that.

retired cynic Dec 19, 2016 • 7:48:19pm

re: #13 Bass Reeves

So, in what should have been a show of solidarity at least for the Democratic party, ~~people~~ assholes still felt the need to prove their fucking uniqueness. Some amazing resistance we’re going to put, I can feel that.

We will resist despite them.

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 7:48:58pm

re: #12 calochortus

And neither of them is going anywhere. CA is not leaving the US any time soon, any more than there will be a State of Jefferson carved out of northern CA and southern OR.

To me it’s not even worth discussing. Weird.

teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 7:48:58pm

On the plus side, I made some cash with a friend shoveling snow the last three days. Just purchased my 3-day pass for Umphrey’s McGee at Red Rocks this summer. Three nights! That weekend is going to be crazy.

Scottishdragon Dec 19, 2016 • 7:49:26pm

the Electoral College has become a meaningless rubber stamp, instead of a safeguard against the election of an unqualified president it was intended to be

Hamilton tried to sell it like that, Charles…but the EC has only had one function ever:

Propping up white slave state power in conjunction with the 3/5 clause.

The EC was specifically designed for that one duty. It is an anachronism of the Rice Kings of South Carolina and their slave plantations in the malarial swamps of the coastal lowlands.

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 7:49:54pm

re: #8 Odie Hugh Manatee

This ought to permanently disabuse anyone with a lick of sense of the idea that the EC was ever a safety check. The outcome is what I expected because we are truly divided against each other. I also know that the future of our country has just taken a turn for the worse because the ‘forces of darkness’ have the upper hand. A lot of people are going to hurt, suffer and die, just so assholes can get their hate on and make some money at the same time. I’ve tuned out news and just read a couple of blogs now because there’s no need for me to stress over the daily reality President TV show that Trump is putting on. Attention is one of the main dishes on the table of greed that he sits at to feed his ego. Besides that, I have HBP and I’m not letting him drive it higher. He’s going to be a walking, talking clusterfuck for at least the next four years and that’s all I need to know.

In the meantime I’ll beat up my Congressman and Senator (DeFazio/Wyden) to tell them to try to stop this racist moron from blowing up the world.

My congressman (Adrian Smith, R-NE3) and Senator Deb Fischer (R) have my mail on “shred before reading.” While my other senator, Ben Sasse (R) refused in February to have anything to do with Mr. Trump (Deb Fischer endorsed him, then unendorsed him over the pussygrabber tape, then “fooled you!!” reëndorsed him), Mr. Sasse also has my mail on shred-before-reading.

Senators and Representatives from Nebraska only represent Nebraskan Republicans, not all Nebraskans.

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 7:52:21pm

re: #14 retired cynic

We will resist despite them.

I’ll take care of the ninety thousand square miles of the Nebraska Panhandle. (:: That should leave a few Democrats left over for the rest of the country.

Scottishdragon Dec 19, 2016 • 7:53:44pm

re: #8 Odie Hugh Manatee

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retired cynic Dec 19, 2016 • 7:54:04pm

re: #18 Anymouse

I got an email from my Fed. Rep., thrilled that Trump was now official, and wanting to know my priorities. Naturally, his email poll didn’t work, so I wrote him an email to that effect, saying it was typical of Republican things of all sorts, and that Trump was the most dangerous creature we had ever faced.

If he wants to put me on shred before reading, that is just fine by me, but I am going to keep harassing him.

calochortus Dec 19, 2016 • 7:59:02pm

There is good and bad about being in a solidly liberal area. I’m happy to have representation that actually does represent me, but I can’t do much to make some random red state rep. or senator change their mind since they aren’t representing me.

Alyosha Dec 19, 2016 • 7:59:04pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

Thanks for reposting that. I saw a doco on the playwright Larry Kramer who wrote the play ‘Faggots’ as a reaction to the male gay community’s inaction on the new AIDS epidemic as he saw it. He was labelled by the more hedonistically-inclined in the community as a kind of moral scold at a time where people were just starting to feel comfortable about being out and proud but he spearheaded AIDS awareness and didn’t give a shit about how he was perceived.

That sort of real-talk was so necessary at that time, not just in the US, but in Britain under Thatcher, and here too.

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 7:59:20pm

re: #8 Odie Hugh Manatee

This is going to be a very volatile next four years. That, of course, is assuming that the republic even lasts into 2018, and I’m not convinced.

jaunte Dec 19, 2016 • 8:01:06pm

Austria’s far right signed a “cooperation agreement” with Putin and met with Trump advisor @GenFlynn https://t.co/EfSiE9y0QL

— Liam Stack (@liamstack) December 20, 2016

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The fascist internationale is coming together.

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 8:01:32pm

re: #20 Scottishdragon

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teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 8:04:19pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

Oh, and Snarky Puppy and Bruce Hornsby are openers. Giggety!

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 8:07:27pm

re: #12 calochortus

And neither of them is going anywhere. CA is not leaving the US any time soon, any more than there will be a State of Jefferson carved out of northern CA and southern OR.

Out of all the things Putin is involved with, that makes absolutely the least amount of sense.

Unless Putin’s intention is to further undermine the republic by forcing Brexit-style debacles with the blue states, what is the point?

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 8:09:10pm

re: #20 Scottishdragon

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calochortus Dec 19, 2016 • 8:09:23pm

re: #28 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Out of all the things Putin is involved with, that makes absolutely the least amount of sense.

Unless Putin’s intention is to further undermine the republic by forcing Brexit-style debacles with the blue states, what is the point?

I can’t imagine what the point would be, but I suppose it’s more a case of letting a resident nutter have fun than a particular policy statement.

TedStriker Dec 19, 2016 • 8:09:45pm

re: #28 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Out of all the things Putin is involved with, that makes absolutely the least amount of sense.

Unless Putin’s intention is to further undermine the republic by forcing Brexit-style debacles with the blue states, what is the point?

Divide and distract by keeping us focused on keeping the Union together, which gives him a freer hand at reconstituting the Russian Empire or whatever.

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 8:10:56pm

Ungrateful Tennessee Man Not Satisfied with $75 Compensation for Thirty-One Years in Prison on a False Conviction (goes to Wonkette)

And why did the state parole board vote twice to deny McKinney exoneration? Sealed records, folks, although one member of the parole board that denied his first exoneration, Patsy Bruce, said that even though the court may have been convinced by the DNA evidence that McKinney couldn’t have committed the crime, she thought he might still be guilty anyway.

He was convicted of rape and robbery. DNA exonerated him, but the state parole board turned him down (twice). He is now out with his $75 at sixty years old, and is applying to the state governor for exoneration (which would make him eligible to receive up to $1,000,000 in compensation for the wrongful conviction).

ObserverArt Dec 19, 2016 • 8:11:19pm

re: #21 retired cynic

I got an email from my Fed. Rep., thrilled that Trump was now official, and wanting to know my priorities. Naturally, his email poll didn’t work, so I wrote him an email to that effect, saying it was typical of Republican things of all sorts, and that Trump was the most dangerous creature we had ever faced.

If he wants to put me on shred before reading, that is just fine by me, but I am going to keep harassing him.

I’ve written a few emails to Republicans. I keep it clean…but pointed. Sharp with a smile. I guess I am going to be doing more and more of them.

jaunte Dec 19, 2016 • 8:12:22pm

Under political pressure, Kuwait cancels major event at Four Seasons, switches to Trump’s D.C. hotel. https://t.co/mGDm9B9iHQ pic.twitter.com/1kJZ6Li5Of

— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) December 19, 2016

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Odie Hugh Manatee Dec 19, 2016 • 8:16:40pm

re: #20 Scottishdragon

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Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 19, 2016 • 8:20:17pm

re: #9 retired cynic

I have made a pledge to myself to call him DT. Certainly not President, or to use his full name. Reminds me of Delirium Tremens, too. Heh.

Get out of my head.

teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 8:22:44pm

I will address Donald Trump as Fuckface Von Clownstick from now on. If there are children around it’ll be Frickface Von Clowstick.

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 8:23:17pm

re: #35 Odie Hugh Manatee

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jaunte Dec 19, 2016 • 8:24:26pm

DJ Fuckface Von Clownstick

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 8:26:58pm

re: #31 TedStriker

Divide and distract by keeping us focused on keeping the Union together, which gives him a freer hand at reconstituting the Russian Empire or whatever.

Sometimes I hate living in a post-sane world.

teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 8:29:27pm

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Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 8:29:35pm

re: #35 Odie Hugh Manatee

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 8:30:04pm

re: #9 retired cynic

I have made a pledge to myself to call him DT. Certainly not President, or to use his full name. Reminds me of Delirium Tremens, too. Heh.

DT: Destructive Traitor.

I will only refer to him as “Trump.” No PEOTUS, no POTUS. He doesn’t deserve the honor, nor will he ever.

Joe Bacon Dec 19, 2016 • 8:30:35pm

What gets under my skin is when I hop on the bus to go to work on weekdays, the bus always stops to pick up a lady in a wheelchair. She’s a diabetic amputee who has Trump stickers plastered on her wheelchair. She just can’t wait for Trump to get in and “take those moochers off of welfare”.

BTW—she says she is on Medi-Cal (Medicaid here in California). Now I wonder what she will say when Ryan gets those Medicaid cuts passed and her services are reduced…

Ziggy_TARDIS Dec 19, 2016 • 8:31:35pm

I wonder how many Americans have heard of Fash-Bashing?

Joe Bacon Dec 19, 2016 • 8:31:41pm

re: #43 Myron Falwell (no relation)

DT: Destructive Traitor.

I will only refer to him as “Trump.” No PEOTUS, no POTUS. He doesn’t deserve the honor, nor will he ever.

I prefer to call him, “His Ass-Holeyness”!

teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 8:31:41pm

re: #39 jaunte

DJ Fuckface Von Clownstick

The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist) Dec 19, 2016 • 8:31:58pm

re: #34 jaunte

Remember, it’s not a conflict of interest if it’s done openly.

Alyosha Dec 19, 2016 • 8:32:59pm

Since drinking might be the order of the day, this is a fun song to wobbly head-bang to.

RED FANG - “Prehistoric Dog” (Official Music Video)

jaunte Dec 19, 2016 • 8:34:41pm

re: #48 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Remember, it’s not a conflict of interest if it’s done openly.

“You know who else kept meticulous records?”

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 8:36:14pm

Gov. Pat McCrory of North Carolina says he will call a special session of the legislature tomorrow to repeal in full North Carolina’s bathroom bill.

wonkette.com

We’ll have to see. Even if he does call a special session, there is no guarantee the state legislature will actually do anything about that (they might engage in more power stripping of the governor-elect, for example).

jaunte Dec 19, 2016 • 8:36:18pm

Feels like a natural point in Greenwald’s evolution, to be in agreement with Fox. https://t.co/Yvyx634YD4 via @mediaite

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Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 8:36:36pm

Deleted, just got paranoid about identity.

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ObserverArt Dec 19, 2016 • 8:36:46pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

DJ Fuckface Von Clownstick

He’d be the greatest DJ ever.

You know he’d tell you that.

Joe Bacon Dec 19, 2016 • 8:41:05pm

re: #54 ObserverArt

He’d be the greatest DJ ever.

You know he’d tell you that.

Yeah, I can imagine Fuckface doing a House Mix of The Carpenters…

Alyosha Dec 19, 2016 • 8:42:01pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

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BeachDem Dec 19, 2016 • 8:44:28pm

re: #46 Joe Bacon

I prefer to call him, “His Ass-Holeyness”!

I like the simpler, Yam.

And when it comes to contacting Senators and Reps, sigh. Lindsey Graham used to respond to my emails with boilerplate sweet nothings. Now, no sweet, just nothing—no response at all.

When Tim Scott went to DC as a brand new Rep, he was mine. Even when we went to his local office in person to discuss things with his staff, we never got so much as a “thanks for stopping by” email. Now that he’s a senator, fuggedaboutit.

My current rep is a back-bench do-nothing worm who has adopted the same method of totally ignoring any attempt to contact him. At one point in the summer of 2015, we went to his office to set up a meeting and were informed that he was “too busy” until at least February of 2016. Uh huh.

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 8:45:27pm

re: #57 BeachDem

I like the simpler, Yam.

And when it comes to contacting Senators and Reps, sigh. Lindsey Graham used to respond to my emails with boilerplate sweet nothings. Now, no sweet, just nothing—no response at all.

When Tim Scott went to DC as a brand new Rep, he was mine. Even when we went to his local office in person to discuss things with his staff, we never got so much as a “thanks for stopping by” email. Now that he’s a senator, fuggedaboutit.

My current rep is a back-bench do-nothing worm who has adopted the same method of totally ignoring any attempt to contact him. At one point in the summer of 2015, we went to his office to set up a meeting and were informed that he was “too busy” until at least February of 2016. Uh huh.

Representatives. Yeah.

BeachDem Dec 19, 2016 • 8:47:45pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

Representatives. Yeah.

We figured the only way to get his attention was to act like we were going to hold a fundraiser for him. Yeah, NO.

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 8:48:42pm

re: #59 BeachDem

We figured the only way to get his attention was to act like we were going to hold a fundraiser for him. Yeah, NO.

ACT UP!

TedStriker Dec 19, 2016 • 8:50:07pm

re: #57 BeachDem

I like the simpler, Yam.

And when it comes to contacting Senators and Reps, sigh. Lindsey Graham used to respond to my emails with boilerplate sweet nothings. Now, no sweet, just nothing—no response at all.

When Tim Scott went to DC as a brand new Rep, he was mine. Even when we went to his local office in person to discuss things with his staff, we never got so much as a “thanks for stopping by” email. Now that he’s a senator, fuggedaboutit.

My current rep is a back-bench do-nothing worm who has adopted the same method of totally ignoring any attempt to contact him. At one point in the summer of 2015, we went to his office to set up a meeting and were informed that he was “too busy” until at least February of 2016. Uh huh.

But, had you been holding a fistful of cash, I’m sure they would have found time to meet, whenever and wherever you wanted.

It’s bullshit and now we get to see our President-in-Waiting do it, even before he’s in office, but all out in the open and with apparent impunity.

*retches*

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 8:51:24pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon

Yeah, I can imagine Fuckface doing a House Mix of The Carpenters…

With THA RAY-GUN BOYYYYZZZZ!!!

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 8:53:30pm

The Charlotte Observer notes the special legislative session in North Carolina will be Wednesday.

charlotteobserver.com

They note that the City of Charlotte voted 10-0 to repeal its non-discrimination ordinance in exchange for the session. (There is no guarantee that the legislature will actually do something, and Charlotte said it would not repeal its ordinance. Once again, Democrats cave to the Republicans expecting something in return that the GOP is in no mood to deliver.)

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 8:55:29pm

The city’s repeal includes language that says its nondiscrimination ordinance will be revived if the General Assembly doesn’t repeal HB2 by Dec. 31.

Republican council member Ed Driggs said he’s worried legislators will see that deadline as Charlotte dictating to Raleigh. He proposed that the Dec. 31 deadline be removed, but his motion failed.

Read more here: charlotteobserver.com

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 8:56:05pm

re: #57 BeachDem

It’s ironic that Senator Sherrod Brown lives in my current residence of Avon, Ohio… while my alleged representative — Bob Gibbs — lives in fucking Newark in a typical gerrymandered district, and he only comes near the area for the summer festivals, if ever.

scottslemmons Dec 19, 2016 • 8:56:16pm

re: #57 BeachDem

I like the simpler, Yam.

I plan to call him the Giant Orange Incest Yam. At least until they start putting us all in the camps. So I guess until June.

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 8:57:32pm

re: #66 scottslemmons

I plan to call him the Giant Orange Incest Yam. At least until they start putting us all in the camps. So I guess until June.

We’ll experience nuclear fallout and a global famine before the camps. So there’s that.

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 8:58:27pm

I’ll stick with fascist talking yam for Mr. Trump unless he shows otherwise (in the meantime, I am wondering what sort of triangles I will have to sew onto my clothes as an atheist and as a political subversive).

Sherlock Hound Dec 19, 2016 • 8:59:34pm

re: #28 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Out of all the things Putin is involved with, that makes absolutely the least amount of sense.

Unless Putin’s intention is to further undermine the republic by forcing Brexit-style debacles with the blue states, what is the point?

That, I think is Putin’s purpose. This talk of secession plays right into his hands. It reinforces the meme I’ve been seeing: “Except California, Trump won!”. Except California. I’m afraid that is self-reinforcing. (Thanks, Göbells!)

The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist) Dec 19, 2016 • 9:00:07pm

I’m going with “Trump”. It’s the most offensive slur I can think of.

goddamnedfrank Dec 19, 2016 • 9:04:09pm

re: #2 Kragar

Time to keep our options open…

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Sherlock Hound Dec 19, 2016 • 9:04:38pm

re: #48 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Remember, it’s not a conflict of interest if it’s done openly.

If it doesn’t conflict with your interests, it’s not a conflict of interest!

Try the fish and remember to tip!

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 9:11:01pm

re: #69 Sherlock Hound

That, I think is Putin’s purpose. This talk of secession plays right into his hands. It reinforces the meme I’ve been seeing: “Except California, Trump won!”. Except California. I’m afraid that is self-reinforcing. (Thanks, Göbells!)

That’s in part why I can’t just dismiss this out of hand. It would be a master stroke for Putin to actually see the referendum pass and humiliate Trump and the United States.

The way that meme has been getting traction among the RWNJs is only helping to exacerbate the “irreconcilable differences,” as it were.

Again, we’ve left the world of sanity and are now in a post-sane world.

wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 9:11:02pm

We got our underwater drone back without incident. Don’t expect to see any Trump tweets about it.

China has returned unlawfully seized UUV to @USNavy. Transfer took place near spot where Glider was taken last week. Full statement here pic.twitter.com/fveL6GL18d

— Peter Cook (@PentagonPresSec) December 20, 2016

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Frankie Five Angels Dec 19, 2016 • 9:11:20pm

re: #66 scottslemmons

I plan to call him the Giant Orange Incest Yam. At least until they start putting us all in the camps. So I guess until June.

I prefer Orange Anus.

teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 9:11:52pm

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wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 9:15:36pm

re: #73 Myron Falwell (no relation)

That’s in part why I can’t just dismiss this out of hand. It would be a master stroke for Putin to humiliate Trump in this manner.

The way that meme has been getting traction among the RWNJs is only helping to exacerbate the “irreconcilable differences,” as it were.

Again, we’ve left the world of sanity and are now in a post-sane world.

Meanwhile, Chinese investors may buy the Chicago Stock Exchange.
linkis.com

Eclectic Cyborg Dec 19, 2016 • 9:16:28pm

re: #77 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, Chinese investors may buy the Chicago Stock Exchange.
linkis.com

Oh I am sure Trump would loooove that!

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 9:17:10pm

re: #77 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, Chinese investors may buy the Chicago Stock Exchange.
linkis.com

calochortus Dec 19, 2016 • 9:17:41pm

re: #73 Myron Falwell (no relation)

That’s in part why I can’t just dismiss this out of hand. It would be a master stroke for Putin to actually see the referendum pass and humiliate Trump and the United States.

The way that meme has been getting traction among the RWNJs is only helping to exacerbate the “irreconcilable differences,” as it were.

Again, we’ve left the world of sanity and are now in a post-sane world.

Tim Draper couldn’t even get the “6 Californias” initiative on the ballot. CA isn’t going to vote to secede.

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 9:19:05pm

re: #80 calochortus

Tim Draper couldn’t even get the “6 Californias” initiative on the ballot. CA isn’t going to vote to secede.

Completely delusional & a waste of type to even discuss this shit.

Being played I think is the term.

jaunte Dec 19, 2016 • 9:19:36pm

Putin is happy enough to flood the zone with chaos.

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 9:20:16pm

re: #80 calochortus

Tim Draper couldn’t even get the “6 Californias” initiative on the ballot. CA isn’t going to vote to secede.

Until any and every last effort is formally dead on arrival, please forgive me for the lack of reassurance.

wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 9:21:38pm

Trump has jumped the gun with an “official statement” about the Berlin attack.

Trump statement on Berlin—German officials haven’t formally called this a terror attack yet, nor has ISIS or another group taken credit yet. pic.twitter.com/7iAyFrNXco

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 19, 2016

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Someone needs to remind him that he’s not president yet, and should just let the real president speak for the country.

jaunte Dec 19, 2016 • 9:22:01pm

As long as there are plenty of Americans who think “yes, we could get along without all those other idiots,” and act on that fantasy, Putin will be well served.

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 9:23:00pm

re: #82 jaunte

Putin is happy enough to flood the zone with chaos.

Seriously, this will happen within.

Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 9:23:30pm

re: #84 wheat-dogg

Trump has jumped the gun with an “official statement” about the Berlin attack.

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Someone needs to remind him that he’s not president yet, and should just let the real president speak for the country.

Logan Act. Who am I kidding? No one will enforce it.

It was just reported on the local news here in Grand Junction that the German police believe the Polish truck was hijacked.

calochortus Dec 19, 2016 • 9:26:00pm

re: #83 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Until any and every last effort is formally dead on arrival, please forgive me for the lack of reassurance.

If you want to worry about it, go right ahead. I just think it’s way, way down on the list of concerns.

jaunte Dec 19, 2016 • 9:26:00pm

7. Trump will play at being a fascist dictator but at the end of the day he’s just a punk. We’re WAY too strong to succumb to this now.

— Elliott Lusztig (@ezlusztig) December 20, 2016

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Trump is already showing he’s nothing but a squalid scrabbler focused on stealing as much as he can carry away. But he has small hands.

wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 9:26:38pm

re: #79 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Chinese investors have steadily been buying up real estate in the USA for years now. One group bought the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in Manhattan. Lots of Chinese moguls have bought up mansions on both coasts, either to live in or to invest in. Plus Chinese firms have invested in several US corporations. This is over and above the trillions China holds in US Treasury securities.

Pissing off China is just simply a very bad idea, and Trump really kicked the hornet’s nest with his tweets about Taiwan and the drone. China could hurt us badly without ever needing to fire a missile.

scottslemmons Dec 19, 2016 • 9:26:46pm

re: #82 jaunte

Putin is happy enough to flood the zone with chaos.

I think that’s it exactly. If the U.S. and every other Western democracy is in a state of constant chaos, corruption, terror, and hate, that makes him the de facto world power.

We never won the Cold War. We just let the Russians play possum for a few years. And I reckon they’ll finish us off before very long.

wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 9:27:37pm

re: #87 Anymouse

Logan Act. Who am I kidding? No one will enforce it.

It was just reported on the local news here in Grand Junction that the German police believe the Polish truck was hijacked.

Reports are the driver was a Pakistani refugee.

Yeah. Just what refugees need right now.

teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 9:27:52pm

re: #89 jaunte

Trump is already showing he’s nothing but a squalid scrabbler focused on stealing as much as he can carry away. But he has small hands.

High crimes and misdemeanors within minutes of taking the oath.

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 9:30:07pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

High crimes and misdemeanors within minutes of taking the oath.

But those are the OLD high crimes & misdemeanors! It’s all been re-written!!!

(dying)

Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 9:31:28pm

ICYMI

https://t.co/W4uAG2bX7l pic.twitter.com/JhCRdzBaep

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) December 20, 2016

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Anymouse Dec 19, 2016 • 9:34:07pm

I’m off to bed, ‘twas a stressful day. G’night, y’all.

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 9:35:04pm

re: #90 wheat-dogg

I unequivocally agree.

China can and will exact financial pain on us like you won’t believe. It could render Trump as a lame-duck fairly quickly.

The Republicans think that they can outrun a speeding train at a railroad crossing by driving a car that can go 100 MPH.

Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 9:38:35pm

re: #88 calochortus

If you want to worry about it, go right ahead. I just think it’s way, way down on the list of concerns.

I’ll worry about it so you don’t have to. ;)

The Ghost of Senator Incatatus Dec 19, 2016 • 9:38:42pm

re: #91 scottslemmons

Not sure they even want to be a “world” power. But chaos globally means he can lean on Eastern Europe and Central Asia very, very hard, with no interference, plus the opportunity to yank the EU’s chain with gas prices and control of pipelines. Other thing I think Russia likes about chaos and this reactionary resurgence is how it rolls back efforts to stop global warming: it’s a petrostate with a lot of Arctic coastline.

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scottslemmons Dec 19, 2016 • 9:38:46pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

ICYMI

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So essentially, it’s not just that the Soviets are about to win the Cold War. The Nazis are about to win World War II. :(

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calochortus Dec 19, 2016 • 9:39:12pm

re: #98 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I’ll worry about it so you don’t have to. ;)

Thanks! Can I worry about something else for you?

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Ziggy_TARDIS Dec 19, 2016 • 9:44:53pm

re: #97 Myron Falwell (no relation)

What China is doing is reminding me of Japan in the 70s and 80s.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Dec 19, 2016 • 9:45:31pm

re: #99 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

I think Putin wants to revive the Russian Empire.

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Stanley Sea Dec 19, 2016 • 9:46:17pm

Here’s a worry that’s worthy!!

My kit has slept all freaking day. Now she’s staring at me as I prepare for bed.

Trouble awaits.

I left my defunct (damaged by kit) chromebook cord on the dining room table. Noticed her hanging around that area. Checked said damaged cord to find it obliterated. Chewed to pieces.

Oh me.

Over & out. Will report new destruction tomorrow.

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calochortus Dec 19, 2016 • 9:48:19pm

I think I’m for my bed, too.
Hasta mañana, Lizards. Keep up the fight.

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wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 9:49:32pm

re: #102 Ziggy_TARDIS

What China is doing is reminding me of Japan in the 70s and 80s.

And Japan then suffered an economic downturn. There are economists who’ve predicted the same for China for a few years now, but it’s not yet come to pass.

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teleskiguy Dec 19, 2016 • 9:53:26pm

You know that viral video in which a chimp gets his hands on a machine gun and starts firing randomly? That’s how I think of Trump.

— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) December 19, 2016

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Ape With AK-47

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wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 9:54:56pm

Andrea Bocelli has dropped out of the inauguration gala.

Andrea Bocelli bails on Donald Trump inauguration https://t.co/O6u9Xp4WYD

— Daily News Bin (@DailyNewsBin) December 20, 2016

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Now if that teenager bails, too, Trump will have nothing but has-been rockers and a 1980s cover band.

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Dec 19, 2016 • 10:03:12pm

re: #101 calochortus

Thanks! Can I worry about something else for you?

I’ll give that serious thought. 😸

Night, lizards.

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wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 10:05:19pm

Worry songs 1

Stevie Wonder - Don’t You Worry ‘Bout A Thing 7-14-73

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wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 10:06:51pm

Worry songs 2

Bob Marley - Everything’s Gonna Be Alright

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wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 10:15:09pm

And of course,

Bobby McFerrin - Don’t Worry Be Happy

(co-starring Robin Williams and Bill Irwin)

Also, don’t blast the singing fish. Kthxbai

Wall-e mostra la casa a EVE

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wheat-dogg Dec 19, 2016 • 10:30:35pm

So, apparently there is a useful idiot named Eva Bartlett who insists the bombing of Aleppo is not nearly as bad as people say, and all those victims and refugees in reports are the same people being “recycled.”

Snopes take her apart. snopes.com

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makeitstop Dec 19, 2016 • 11:36:43pm

re: #108 wheat-dogg

Andrea Bocelli has dropped out of the inauguration gala.

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Now if that teenager bails, too, Trump will have nothing but has-been rockers and a 1980s cover band.

80s cover band? Has that been announced?

I’m asking because I have a few friends in an 80s band that’s pretty successful here in NY, and I’m hoping like hell it’s not them. I’d have to go smack some sense into a few friends if it was.

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Single-handed sailor Dec 19, 2016 • 11:58:56pm

HT Balloon Juice

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 12:26:02am

re: #114 makeitstop

80s cover band? Has that been announced?

I’m asking because I have a few friends in an 80s band that’s pretty successful here in NY, and I’m hoping like hell it’s not them. I’d have to go smack some sense into a few friends if it was.

Someone mentioned it here downstairs, a Reagan-era themed band.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 12:27:37am

re: #115 Single-handed sailor

Please do not feed the bears. They become bipedal and may develop speech.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 12:29:34am

re: #91 scottslemmons

I think that’s it exactly. If the U.S. and every other Western democracy is in a state of constant chaos, corruption, terror, and hate, that makes him the de facto world power.

We never won the Cold War. We just let the Russians play possum for a few years. And I reckon they’ll finish us off before very long.

I do not see this as a continuation of the Cold War, I see it as a resurgence of the Russian Empire. There are some differences. The Russian Empire is not concerned with expanding its power or ideology, it just wants to reunite all the ethnic Russians left stranded outside its borders.

But we left ourselves open to interference and meddling, and they needed only devote minor resources (a handful of hackers in Smolensk and Petrozavodsk) to seriously screw up our system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 12:32:02am

So back to the EC. How does one become an elector? Does anybody even know who their electors are and how they came to have the final say in electing our President?

It seems as abstract and anonymous as the folks who sit in the EU Parliament in Brussels.

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Lani Dec 20, 2016 • 1:07:22am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Hawaii, members of the Democratic Party campaign to be elected as EC electors at the state convention.

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Anymouse Dec 20, 2016 • 1:08:11am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So back to the EC. How does one become an elector? Does anybody even know who their electors are and how they came to have the final say in electing our President?

It seems as abstract and anonymous as the folks who sit in the EU Parliament in Brussels.

Courtesy of Wikipedia:

Candidates for elector are nominated by state chapters of nationally oriented political parties in the months prior to Election Day. In some states, the electors are nominated by voters in primaries, the same way other presidential candidates are nominated. In some states, such as Oklahoma, Virginia and North Carolina, electors are nominated in party conventions. In Pennsylvania, the campaign committee of each candidate names their respective electoral college candidates (an attempt to discourage faithless electors). Varying by state, electors may also be elected by state legislatures, or appointed by the parties themselves.

In other words, you have to be active in the state party (generally), as it is the party that selects you.

The Constitution prohibits a person holding a Federal office from simultaneously being an elector (thus, Bill Clinton, as he is retired from the Presidency, was an elector for Hillary Clinton). Any person who has also forsworn their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution is barred from being an elector (XIV Amendment).

The “faithless electors” that abandoned Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump that gave the argument “they do not represent their party, but the voters” is actually false (the party selects them).

States may also select electors, but the states have normalised popular election of electors in the General Election. Eight states list the names of the electors being voted for on the ballot.

DC is treated as a state since it gained the right of electing the President, but the Constitution bars it from having any more electors than the least-populous state (currently Wyoming, with three electors). That said, even if that restriction was not in place, DC would still only have three electors based on its population.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 1:09:18am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So back to the EC. How does one become an elector? Does anybody even know who their electors are and how they came to have the final say in electing our President?

It seems as abstract and anonymous as the folks who sit in the EU Parliament in Brussels.

The system is arcane, and is different for each state + District of Columbia.
en.wikipedia.org

The parties nominate the electors, which are pledged to each candidate. When you vote for Candidate A, in most states you are voting for his or her electors, and not actually voting directly “for” Candidate A.

Judging from the Wikipedia entry, some states publish the names of the electors on the ballots. Most do not. So, only very curious voters can find the names of their candidates’ electors.

Bill Clinton is an elector pledged to (surprise) Hillary Clnton. The news agencies carried a photo of Bill dropping his ballot in a box.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 1:25:33am

This election taught us (and hopefully the Democrat Party, too) that is possible to “flip” an election by focusing on certain key states — or by screwing with the election process in some way — to accumulate enough EVs to win the election. Basically, Trump & Co. gamed the system, while Clinton & Co. apparently focused mostly on winning the popular vote. In their chosen strategy, each side was successful, but only one side won the election.

I doubt the Electoral College will be abolished — ever. So, the Dems have got to focus on every state, regardless of population and party registration, and be extra vigilant to make sure GOP operatives aren’t fcking with the vote somehow. The count in Detroit was particularly sketchy, for example, and we can assume those missing votes would have been mostly for Clinton. Perhaps similar weirdness occurred in WI and PA, though I’m just speculating there.

OTOH, if there seems to be a persistent pattern of Candidate A winning the popular vote while Candidate B wins the majority of the EVs for the next several elections, maybe Congresspeople would consider amending the Constitution to strike the EC down.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 1:34:44am

Trump can take his anti-refugee rhetoric and shove it up his ass, so Sean Hannity can eat it.

blog.malala.org

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nkdee Dec 20, 2016 • 1:46:32am

re: #65 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I live in Mansfield, Myron. Love Brown! Gibbs us also MY Rep. It was Jim Jordan (R-Freedom Caucus) and somehow it got changed. I don’t understand how since it wasn’t time for them to re-gerrymander the districts.

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John Hughes Dec 20, 2016 • 2:11:21am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It seems as abstract and anonymous as the folks who sit in the EU Parliament in Brussels.

There is nothing abstract or anonymous about “the folks who sit in the EU Parliament”. You may even know the names of some of them, even some of the things they have done. (Hint: when was the ACTA treaty ratified).

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John Hughes Dec 20, 2016 • 2:29:01am

re: #84 wheat-dogg

ISIS and other Islamist terrorists continually slaughter Christians

They “continually slaughter” Muslims too. In rather greater numbers. They’ve even been known to kill a few atheists and Jews. Maybe even a Buddhist or two.

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Shiplord Kirel Dec 20, 2016 • 2:40:27am

re: #117 wheat-dogg

Please do not feed the bears. They become bipedal and may develop speech.

Bears Discover Fire
en.m.wikipedia.org

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Shiplord Kirel Dec 20, 2016 • 2:45:04am

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

Bears Discover Fire
en.m.wikipedia.org

If you think that’s scary, just wait for the sequel, “Bears Discover Firepower.”

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 3:03:18am

Facebook: Good morning, Timothy!
Me: Fuck you, where’s my coffee?

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teleskiguy Dec 20, 2016 • 3:14:25am

Tom Arnold: I Have “Racist” Trump Outtakes From ‘The Apprentice’ https://t.co/GTh938fT1h pic.twitter.com/jiKHm67eeV

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) December 20, 2016

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Attending funeral of snake bite victim: “LOL, I had anti-venom the whole time.” https://t.co/Z4tCor4HdH

— Guy Endore-Kaiser (@GuyEndoreKaiser) December 20, 2016

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 3:23:25am

re: #131 teleskiguy

Thanks for sharing, Tom. Where have you been these last few months?

Great sense of timing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 3:24:40am

re: #131 teleskiguy

Attending funeral of snake bite victim: “LOL, I had anti-venom the whole time.”

As if that would have helped.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 3:25:01am

re: #127 John Hughes

They “continually slaughter” Muslims too. In rather greater numbers. They’ve even been known to kill a few atheists and Jews. Maybe even a Buddhist or two.

Trump does not believe those other people count. Remember, it’s Us v. Them for him and his supporters.

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Scout Dec 20, 2016 • 3:27:51am

If I were a big, A-list singer that the Trump scum wanted to perform, here’s what I’d do:

I’d demand that a really huge sum — a couple million easy — be donated in Trump’s name to a charity that he would really hate. I don’t know, Planned Parenthood or something like that.

And I wouldn’t perform until the payment was made — in a really public way so that everyone on the planet knew it had been made — and there was no way it could be taken back.

Then I would take the stage with the nationally televised audience and sing songs with lyrics saying how much I hate Trump, and in between songs I’d read a really hateful speech about him.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 3:33:33am

re: #135 Scout

If I were a big, A-list singer that the Trump scum wanted to perform, here’s what I’d do:

I’d demand that a really huge sum — a couple million easy — be donated in Trump’s name to a charity that he would really hate. I don’t know, Planned Parenthood or something like that.

And I wouldn’t perform until the payment was made — in a really public way so that everyone on the planet knew it had been made — and there was no way it could be taken back.

Then I would take the stage with the nationally televised audience and sing songs with lyrics saying how much I hate Trump, and in between songs I’d read a really hateful speech about him.

TBH, any performer should demand payment up front, given Trump’s habit of stiffing people he owes money to.

I like your idea, but I doubt any A-lister would want anything to do with Trump or his inauguration. In this case, it’s better he be denied any sort of acknowledgement of legitimacy. Let him be embarrassed by the lack of noteworthy entertainers. He’s already trying to cover his ass by saying he doesn’t want any big stars there, because they were all for Clinton. Waa Waa Waa!

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teleskiguy Dec 20, 2016 • 3:49:25am

BREAKING: Germany’s top security official says suspect arrested after attack “comes from Pakistan,” had applied for asylum.

— The Associated Press (@AP) December 20, 2016

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 4:18:38am

My passport is current. Canada is 20 minutes away. What do you pack in a bugout bag?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 4:19:06am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

My passport is current. Canada is 20 minutes away. What do you pack in a bugout bag?

warm clothes

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Dec 20, 2016 • 4:20:18am

Pie

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 4:23:15am

The Triumph of the Trump #UniteBlue #NotMyPresident #resist #corruption #p2 #PDMFNB pic.twitter.com/PS9kIOrHBA

— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) December 20, 2016

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Rocky-in-Connecticut Dec 20, 2016 • 4:25:27am

I see yet another Billionaire has been added to Team Trump since yesterday. I keep reading and laughing to myself from some Trumpy right wing denials of reality that “since Trump is hiring exclusively Billionaires, that means that they are rich enough already and can concentrate on doing what is good for the working man.”

What they fail to realize is that the type of mentality that amasses this kind of wealth does not simply nor typically reign in their drive to amass more and more wealth, more and more power, nor fail to continue to seize every opportunity to enrich themselves and their legacy. In fact, the opposite is true. We are all about to find out how no regulations, no banking laws, and no environmental standards hit the working man in the face years after the fact. The rich getting richer and the middle class getting poorer will continue and accelerate.

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Decatur Deb Dec 20, 2016 • 4:26:05am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

My passport is current. Canada is 20 minutes away. What do you pack in a bugout bag?

(knock, knock)
“Who’s there?”
“You may pack one bag.”
“This isn’t a joke, is it?”

We wait. There is no place to run.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 4:30:08am

German newspaper: Sources say police do not think arrested Pakistani man was Berlin market attacker and actual perpetrator is still at large

— Sky News Newsdesk (@SkyNewsBreak) December 20, 2016

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 4:32:40am

Um yeah, they do this every year.

Work at 2 @GM plants in Michigan to be halted https://t.co/Oe0bhfBCPz

— Detroit Free Press (@freep) December 20, 2016

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 4:38:02am

German police believe they arrested wrong man after attack: Die Welt https://t.co/ylC84ajDKb

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) December 20, 2016

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William Lewis Dec 20, 2016 • 4:38:14am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

(knock, knock)
“Who’s there?”
“You may pack one bag.”
“This isn’t a joke, is it?”

We wait. There is no place to run.

My answer to that is “How big an honor guard did you bring for me to take with me to Hell?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 4:47:58am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

German police believe they arrested wrong man after attack: Die Welt

Too late…Trump called him an Islamist terrorist Christian killer, therefore all subsequent reports will now have to be adjusted to fit that narrative.

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Decatur Deb Dec 20, 2016 • 4:49:27am

re: #147 William Lewis

We likely have one more chance in 2020, if we can exert some unity and discipline.

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Weaselone Dec 20, 2016 • 4:50:50am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

Wait. So someone drives a truck into a crowd and manages to get away while police grab the wrong person. How the hell does that happen?

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 4:51:14am

A picture can be worth a thousand words….#Putinspuppet #TheDailyLiberal #StillNotMyPresident #TheResistance #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/LZ9jMApn1w

— TheDailyLiberal (@DailyLiberal1) December 20, 2016

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Decatur Deb Dec 20, 2016 • 4:51:41am

re: #150 Weaselone

Wait. So someone drives a truck into a crowd and manages to get away while police grab the wrong person. How the hell does that happen?

Round up the usual suspects.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 4:51:44am

re: #150 Weaselone

Wait. So someone drives a truck into a crowd and manages to get away while police grab the wrong person. How the hell does that happen?

Panic, chaos and confusion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 4:52:42am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

We likely have one more chance in 2020, if we can exert some unity and discipline.

I hope I am wrong, but I have resigned myself to eight more years of Trump. The media are not going to quit fawning over him and anyone who runs against him will be subject to such a campaign of lies and vituperation that they will not stand a chance…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 4:53:19am

re: #150 Weaselone

Wait. So someone drives a truck into a crowd and manages to get away while police grab the wrong person. How the hell does that happen?

They all look the same?

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Decatur Deb Dec 20, 2016 • 4:54:41am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I hope I am wrong, but I have resigned myself to eight more years of Trump. The media are not going to quit fawning over him and anyone who runs against him will be subject to such a campaign of lies and vituperation that they will not stand a chance…

Too old for pessimism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 4:56:46am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Too old for pessimism.

Trump broke nearly every rule for a candidate and still prevailed. I cannot see how he will do anything but break every rule for a President…and still prevail.

Even at my most optimistic, I realize that the news has to get a lot worse before it can even start to get any better. I just hope that we as a nation and a democracy do not hit bottom so hard that we cannot recover.

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William Lewis Dec 20, 2016 • 4:59:56am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

Round up the usual suspects.

Not these days with the politzie. The chaos surrounding the attack is sufficient to give cover to the real driver.

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 5:01:23am

re: #2 Kragar

Time to keep our options open…

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But they’re racist against ghouls.

Still better than the former Trump supporters who will make up Caesar’s Legion I guess.

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 5:04:34am

At this point, I’ve pretty much given up any hope at all for the future. It’s just a matter of waiting ‘til I end up dead in a ditch somewhere. :/

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Dave In Austin Dec 20, 2016 • 5:06:44am

@iamchefapple It’s amazing, Putin is balls deep and the right keep asking what he’s doing back there.

— Manny (@Dogg_Mann) December 18, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 5:08:49am

re: #158 William Lewis

Not these days with the politzie. The chaos surrounding the attack is sufficient to give cover to the real driver.

German Christmas markets are wall-to-wall people, half of them tipsy on mulled wine, or Feuerzangebowle, which is mulled wine with a rum-soaked sugar cone set alight and dripped into it. The alcoholic equivalent of free-basing.

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Patricia Kayden Dec 20, 2016 • 5:09:06am

re: #1 Skip Intro

Anybody else notice that Hillary lost more EVs than the orange shitgibbon?

Is there nothing the Democrats can’t fuck up?

Yes. Unfortunately some on our side hate her with a passion. I’ll never understand why. Her faults don’t outpace those of the unqualified bigoted Trump. It’s a shame.

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Lani Dec 20, 2016 • 5:10:38am

re: #160 scottslemmons

At this point, I’ve pretty much given up any hope at all for the future. It’s just a matter of waiting ‘til I end up dead in a ditch somewhere. :/

I’ve given up hope of of woman president in my lifetime. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m not betting on it.

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Decatur Deb Dec 20, 2016 • 5:11:31am

re: #160 scottslemmons

At this point, I’ve pretty much given up any hope at all for the future. It’s just a matter of waiting ‘til I end up dead in a ditch somewhere. :/

Everyone winds up in a hole. Until then, there are things to do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 5:11:44am

re: #163 Patricia Kayden

Yes. Unfortunately some on our side hate her with a passion. I’ll never understand why. Her faults don’t outpace those of the unqualified bigoted Trump. It’s a shame.

Hillary has a record of public service. You can agree with or disagree, but it is there for all to see and refer to. Trump only has a record of self-service. And most of it remains hidden in secrecy.

Go figure.

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jeffreyw Dec 20, 2016 • 5:13:05am

Good morning!

Imgur

Thread needs more Ollie kitteh!

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William Lewis Dec 20, 2016 • 5:13:34am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

German Christmas markets are wall-to-wall people, half of them tipsy.

I remember them, even in small towns like Bad Windsheim near where I was stationed, that was the case. The summer fests were more fun to me ;D

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Rocky-in-Connecticut Dec 20, 2016 • 5:15:14am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’ve said it before but here goes again- Trump is on a short leash by his GOP masters.

The GOP masters are artists in the politics of dirty tricks and will turn on Trump and impeach as soon as his more populist rhetoric starts to turn into reality- especially if we are talking about trade barriers, tariffs, and interfering in corporate profits and worker rentention on a more mass scale in business areas concerning oil, defense, and banking…traditional Republican businesses.

They don’t even have to formally impeach. All they have to do is threaten to hit Trump with Treason charges behind the scenes and make Tump step down and disappear because it simply is not worth dealing with. He would rather just concentrate on his own businesses anyway- the vanity the Presidency offers has already been achieved.

As long as Trump keeps to his shaking down photo-op singular companies here and there concerning the populist stuff, establishment Republicans will make do and enjoy and greatly increase the massive tax breaks, deregulation, environmental catastrophe, and wealth disparity they have enjoyed for decades. And they have a fall guy in place to blame the resulting massive trickle down budget deficit on. Not a “true” Republican- but Trump.

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Dave In Austin Dec 20, 2016 • 5:17:57am

Jesus……

Trump is now re-litigating the election because Bill Clinton knocked him in a small town NY newspaper yesterday. pic.twitter.com/dVxxCiq9wD

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 20, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 5:21:20am

re: #169 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I’ve said it before but here goes again- Trump is on a short leash by his GOP masters…
…They don’t even have to formally impeach. All they have to do is threaten to hit Trump with Treason charges behind the scenes and make Trump step down and disappear because it simply is not worth dealing with…

And then we get President Pence. Egad…

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William Lewis Dec 20, 2016 • 5:22:10am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And then we get ~~President~~ Ayatollah Pence. Egad…

FTFY.

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 5:23:01am

re: #169 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I’ve said it before but here goes again- Trump is on a short leash by his GOP masters.

The GOP masters are artists in the politics of dirty tricks and will turn on Trump and impeach as soon as his more populist rhetoric starts to turn into reality- especially if we are talking about trade barriers, tariffs, and interfering in corporate profits and worker rentention on a more mass scale in business areas concerning oil, defense, and banking…traditional Republican businesses.

I really don’t see any chance of that happening. They’re giving him everything he wants (and he’s promising to give them everything they want, too), they’re basically cowering before him, and the few who’d said they’d stand up to him and humiliating themselves for the chance to shine his shoes.

The GOP doesn’t strike me as people looking for an opportunity to overthrow the king. They’re giving every signal that they’re perfectly happy to be Nazis.

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William Lewis Dec 20, 2016 • 5:24:02am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Everyone winds up in a hole. Until then, there are things to do.

Fairy tales, then, are not responsible for producing in children fear, or any of the shapes of fear; fairy tales do not give the child the idea of the evil or the ugly; that is in the child already, because it is in the world already. Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey. What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon. Exactly what the fairy tale does is this: it accustoms him for a series of clear pictures to the idea that these limitless terrors had a limit, that these shapeless enemies have enemies in the knights of God, that there is something in the universe more mystical than darkness, and stronger than strong fear.

GK Chesterton. Was looking for something else a bit ago and found that quote again. It’s a good reminder at the moment.

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Dave In Austin Dec 20, 2016 • 5:27:18am

turn on sound and enjoy https://t.co/Y4e3e5Gbcm

— Menstrual Betch (@MenstruaI) October 17, 2016

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 5:30:08am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

My passport is current. Canada is 20 minutes away. What do you pack in a bugout bag?

Depends on the situation. Survivalists have a bug-out bag list that includes a first aid kit, matches, sterno — the stuff you need for living rough. But if you’re fleeing the immediate vicinity for more civilized places, then you pack medications, passport, money, pawnable jewelry, credit cards, etc.

en.wikipedia.org

And then there’s this:

Dr. Strangelove: Check List

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 5:33:38am

Also, you might want to brush up on your Russian composers.

Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade - op.35

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 5:35:14am

re: #173 scottslemmons

I really don’t see any chance of that happening. They’re giving him everything he wants (and he’s promising to give them everything they want, too), they’re basically cowering before him, and the few who’d said they’d stand up to him and humiliating themselves for the chance to shine his shoes.

The GOP doesn’t strike me as people looking for an opportunity to overthrow the king. They’re giving every signal that they’re perfectly happy to be Nazis.

There is a big faction that would love to see Pence in power, though…

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 5:35:47am

re: #176 wheat-dogg

Depends on the situation. Survivalists have a bug-out bag list that includes a first aid kit, matches, sterno — the stuff you need for living rough. But if you’re fleeing the immediate vicinity for more civilized places, then you pack medications, passport, money, pawnable jewelry, credit cards, etc.

en.wikipedia.org

What about my books? I have to take all my books.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 5:38:12am

re: #179 scottslemmons

What about my books? I have to take all my books.

Memorize them, before the fire brigade comes and burns them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 5:40:01am

re: #180 wheat-dogg

Memorize them, before the fire brigade comes and burns them.

Centigrade 232.78

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 5:41:12am

Word of the day: antediluvian

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 5:42:24am

Vice President-elect Mike Pence voted ‘homophobe of the year’.https://t.co/mQumt1TfAO pic.twitter.com/22LvFpYQ9I

— Gay Times Magazine (@GayTimesMag) December 20, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 5:42:42am

re: #182 Timothy Watson

Word of the day: antediluvian

why you no like deluvia?

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 5:42:58am

re: #182 Timothy Watson

Word of the day: antediluvian

Fitting for the incoming administration

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 5:43:20am

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

Vice President-elect Mike Pence voted ‘homophobe of the year’

I am sure he will proudly display the plaque on his wall…

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 5:43:48am

Trump’s treasury pick bought life insurance policies from elderly in bet they’d die early https://t.co/GnUZs3pWEh pic.twitter.com/Mt4A9C6n07

— Raw Story (@RawStory) December 20, 2016

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 5:44:16am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why you no like deluvia?

Hace mucha lluvia aqui hoy dia.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 5:44:40am

Aren’t all life insurance policies basically a bet that you’ll die early?

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Bass Reeves Dec 20, 2016 • 5:46:39am

re: #169 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I’ve said it before but here goes again- Trump is on a short leash by his GOP masters.

The GOP masters are artists in the politics of dirty tricks and will turn on Trump and impeach as soon as his more populist rhetoric starts to turn into reality- especially if we are talking about trade barriers, tariffs, and interfering in corporate profits and worker rentention on a more mass scale in business areas concerning oil, defense, and banking…traditional Republican businesses.

You might have missed this, but before Trump was assisted by Russia and the FBI, he beat the brakes off the Republican challengers, and continues to humiliate them daily. He co-opted the head of the RNC. The Republicans have no leash on Trump. They have no leverage over him in any way whatsoever, because his only actual motivation is the grift. Calling him out for treason will not stop the grift, and he is vastly more effective as a populist than the rest of that party.

The other side of this is that they don’t *need* to impeach him. Almost all of the stuff he needs doing that Congress wouldn’t like, Congress has to implement. Congress doesn’t bring it up, it never gets to his desk to sign. He doesn’t care. He’ll grift, and if people complain about how he’s not hitting his policy marks he’ll blame the Republicans in Congress for not doing their job. Why? Because the people who voted for him will still vote their guy back in, and think Congress is worthless, and Trump is great.

TL;DR: Trump is the GOP master.

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 5:47:28am

re: #180 wheat-dogg

Memorize them, before the fire brigade comes and burns them.

Memorizing entire books is hard. It took me long enough to memorize “Jabberwocky”…

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Rocky-in-Connecticut Dec 20, 2016 • 5:49:04am

re: #179 scottslemmons
Reminds me of:
All I Need is my ashtray, my paddle game, my remote control….

The Jerk - All I Need

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Dave In Austin Dec 20, 2016 • 5:51:16am

If you haven’t seen it yet, it’s definitely worth the time.

Strange Bedfellows | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 5:52:08am

re: #191 scottslemmons

Kindle. Nook.
They’re not a perfect replacement for paper books, but way more portable.

I love having books around, but as an expat who may need to move around, a library is just not a smart idea. Plus, my flat is small.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 5:55:16am

Jesus Christ CNN

“We are going to be there for the next president”: Michelle Obama on why she is now supporting Trump https://t.co/ynJDXobUq4 pic.twitter.com/gHGsDk0oFm

— CNN (@CNN) December 20, 2016

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 5:55:45am

re: #194 wheat-dogg

Kindle. Nook.
They’re not a perfect replacement for paper books, but way more portable.

I love having books around, but as an expat who may need to move around, a library is just not a smart idea. Plus, my flat is small.

I’m reading the late Chief Justice Rehnquist’s All the Laws but One: Civil Liberties in Wartime on my new Kindle and “antediluvian” was used in a quote and had to look it up. :)

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 5:56:35am

Offering rational guidance so that he doesn’t fuck up and cause the death of millions is not “supporting Trump” it’s “protecting the US”

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 5:57:11am

re: #194 wheat-dogg

Kindle. Nook.
They’re not a perfect replacement for paper books, but way more portable.

I love having books around, but as an expat who may need to move around, a library is just not a smart idea. Plus, my flat is small.

Bah, my only treasures are my books. :(

I have a Kindle, but every time I read a book I really enjoy, I start making plans to buy a proper paper copy… :/

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gocart mozart Dec 20, 2016 • 5:59:17am

Have you heard the allegation that Trump was actually born in Argentina? Apparently there is strong evidence somewhere that he is the bastard son of a Nazi war criminal and was adopted as a child from an Argentine adoption agency by Fred and Mary Trump. Why is the MSM silent about this. He should release his long form birth certificate to put this matter to rest.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse Dec 20, 2016 • 5:59:34am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

My passport is current. Canada is 20 minutes away. What do you pack in a bugout bag?

Don’t give them the satisfaction. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 6:03:42am

re: #199 gocart mozart

I also heard his bedside copy of Hitler’s speeches was autographed by the Führer.

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Eventual Carrion Dec 20, 2016 • 6:05:03am

re: #44 Joe Bacon

What gets under my skin is when I hop on the bus to go to work on weekdays, the bus always stops to pick up a lady in a wheelchair. She’s a diabetic amputee who has Trump stickers plastered on her wheelchair. She just can’t wait for Trump to get in and “take those moochers off of welfare”.

BTW—she says she is on Medi-Cal (Medicaid here in California). Now I wonder what she will say when Ryan gets those Medicaid cuts passed and her services are reduced…

Blame Obama

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nkdee Dec 20, 2016 • 6:08:47am

re: #9 retired cynic

I’m going with Donald ( because it would irk him that someone as lowly as I would call him that) or HO.

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John Hughes Dec 20, 2016 • 6:09:21am

re: #159 Timothy Watson

The NCR are not particularly racist against ghouls, they’ve had legal protection since 2205. Perhaps you’re thinking of the BoS who are, IMHO, a bunch of Nazi scumbags.

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gocart mozart Dec 20, 2016 • 6:12:48am

On Jan. 20, 2017 Donald J. Trump will take control of the most powerful military the world has ever known. https://t.co/esLYFSegEX

— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) December 20, 2016

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darthstar Dec 20, 2016 • 6:29:46am

Here what a $1 million to Trump’s sons (donated to “conservation charities”) gets you, per @Publici https://t.co/dh7bYUfFAu pic.twitter.com/Pcu5UyViNY

— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) December 20, 2016

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Four signed guitars? Carrot Top doesn’t even play the guitar. https://t.co/ABmb2x88HD

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) December 20, 2016

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Emptor scriptor Remorse Dec 20, 2016 • 6:30:40am

re: #44 Joe Bacon

What gets under my skin is when I hop on the bus to go to work on weekdays, the bus always stops to pick up a lady in a wheelchair. She’s a diabetic amputee

How long have you been hating on little old ladies?! Maybe you could get a job as a bus driver, get on her route, and just drive on by.

/////do I really need this?

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 6:32:14am

Michelle Obama: Election was “painful” to watch https://t.co/yPlGXMi7Fo pic.twitter.com/xWbmIXGkXa

— The Hill (@thehill) December 20, 2016

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Thread

In case you needed anymore reason to be disgusted with America https://t.co/xNlf82kAZs

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) December 20, 2016

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Dave In Austin Dec 20, 2016 • 6:38:50am

I’ve come to the conclusion the “The Man In The High Castle” is not a good thing to be watching while this is going on……

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 20, 2016 • 6:40:00am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

Aren’t all life insurance policies basically a bet that you’ll die early?

More like financial protection for your family.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 6:40:03am

Welp, this sucks.

Construction starting TODAY EB Century Blvd. btw LAX and Felton. Will continue through March! Take 105 when exiting LAX

— Jennifer Kim (@_JenniferKim) December 20, 2016

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 6:41:01am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, this sucks.

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Who starts road construction at an airport five days before Christmas?

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 6:43:53am

re: #209 Dave In Austin

I’ve come to the conclusion the “The Man In The High Castle” is not a good thing to be watching while this is going on……

It’s going to be a long four years. Better watch it now as preparation for the coming doom.

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 20, 2016 • 6:44:14am

re: #212 Timothy Watson

Who starts road construction at an airport five days before Christmas?

Did someone from Chris Christie’s staff land a job out there?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Dec 20, 2016 • 6:44:53am

re: #212 Timothy Watson

Who starts road construction at an airport five days before Christmas?

The same people who decide that blocking off lanes during rush-hour on the beltway is a good idea.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 6:49:04am

re: #212 Timothy Watson

Who starts road construction at an airport five days before Christmas?

I’m all like “how in the fuck do I get out of the fucking airport” but then I looked at a map of LAX and the car rental is on another road running parallel to Century.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 6:51:34am

A little more Rimsky-Korsakov

Rimsky Korsakov Capriccio Espagnol Op 34 Berliner Phil Dir Zubin Mehta YouTube

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Barefoot Grin Dec 20, 2016 • 6:53:45am

re: #208 The Vicious Babushka

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Has The Hill comments section always been such a pestilential shithole?

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 7:02:47am

re: #218 Barefoot Grin

Has The Hill comments section always been such a pestilential shithole?

Every comments section everywhere is a pestilential shithole except for LGF. Maybe Wonkette also isn’t a pestilential shithole since comments there are not allowed ;)

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 7:03:46am

Bill Clinton stated that I called him after the election. Wrong, he called me (with a very nice congratulations). He “doesn’t know much” …

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2016

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Would you go to a fucking intelligence briefing already? Putin won’t tell you everything, even though he worked to elect you. https://t.co/rq0ivl0ojX

— skullsinthestars (@drskyskull) December 20, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 7:04:53am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Every comments section everywhere is a pestilential shithole except for LGF. Maybe Wonkette also isn’t a pestilential shithole since comments there are not allowed ;)

almost any unmoderated comments section quickly degenerates to the Lowest Common Denominator, which keeps getting lower…

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 7:05:56am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

He’s whining because he’s diverting attention from something bad he did or is doing. That’s his MO. @MichaelSkolnik @MattMurph24

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 20, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 7:07:15am

re: #222 lawhawk

He’s whining because he’s diverting attention from something bad he did or is doing. That’s his MO.

Or from something important he is failing to do. Like figuring out how to run a country.

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gocart mozart Dec 20, 2016 • 7:08:40am

@benshapiro, il kapo di tutti kapi

— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) December 20, 2016

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 7:09:39am

re: #224 gocart mozart

If you’re one of the people tweeting #NeverMyPresident, I suggest you stop paying your taxes and see what happens.

What does that even mean?

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makeitstop Dec 20, 2016 • 7:10:19am

re: #179 scottslemmons

What about my books? I have to take all my books.

And you’ll need a theme song.

Nine Inch Nails - Survivalism

My problem? Guitars. How the hell am I gonna bug out with all these guitars in tow?

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 7:13:26am

re: #224 gocart mozart

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I replaced the Tweetdeck column that was hate-following Baby Whiplash & other Deplorables with a Tweetdeck column of cute cat pictures.

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b.d. Dec 20, 2016 • 7:13:55am

re: #225 Timothy Watson

What does that even mean?

Because the only person that can get away without paying taxes is Trump?

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BeachDem Dec 20, 2016 • 7:14:14am

re: #206 darthstar

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And just who are the folks promoting this opening day fest? Why it’s a non-profit with the Yam spawn on the board…and undisclosed donors…and no particular list of the supposed “charities” it will support…created last week.
publicintegrity.org

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 20, 2016 • 7:17:02am

re: #229 BeachDem

And just who are the folks promoting this opening day fest? Why it’s a non-profit with the Yam spawn on the board…and undisclosed donors…and no particular list of the supposed “charities” it will support…created last week.
publicintegrity.org

My guess is the “conservation charities” are exclusive hunting reserves for the 0.1%

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BeachDem Dec 20, 2016 • 7:19:48am

re: #230 Big Beautiful Door

My guess is the “conservation charities” are exclusive hunting reserves for the 0.1%

Probably a pretty good guess:

The brochure says that “all net proceeds from the Opening Day event will be donated to conservation charities,” but it does not name the charities or detail how net proceeds will be calculated… it’s going to raise a lot of money to go to sportsman’s charities” and conservation charities,

WTF is a sportsman’s charity?

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 7:21:58am

re: #231 BeachDem

Probably a pretty good guess:

The brochure says that “all net proceeds from the Opening Day event will be donated to conservation charities,” but it does not name the charities or detail how net proceeds will be calculated… it’s going to raise a lot of money to go to sportsman’s charities” and conservation charities,

WTF is a sportsman’s charity?

“exclusive hunting reserves for the 0.1%” to steal from re: #230 Big Beautiful Door

There are some charities that provide aid/assistance for wounded military veterans to hunt, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 7:24:16am

re: #232 Timothy Watson

“exclusive hunting reserves for the 0.1%” to steal from

There are some charities that provide aid/assistance for wounded military veterans to hunt, etc.

Do you think these charities are there to do anything but recycle money back to the donor class?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Dec 20, 2016 • 7:24:29am

These articles keep saying all these influence/access buying events are ethically questionable. I’m pretty sure there are no questions that is ethically repugnant.

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 7:25:32am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do you think these charities are there to do anything but recycle money back to the donor class?

Of course not, that’s why I won’t give money to charitable groups without reading through their 990 Forms.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 7:25:52am

re: #231 BeachDem

Probably a pretty good guess:

The brochure says that “all net proceeds from the Opening Day event will be donated to conservation charities,” but it does not name the charities or detail how net proceeds will be calculated… it’s going to raise a lot of money to go to sportsman’s charities” and conservation charities,

WTF is a sportsman’s charity?

Bogus orgs that allow the endangered-animal-killing Trumpspawn to grift money to pay for their “big game safaris”

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gocart mozart Dec 20, 2016 • 7:30:45am

re: #225 Timothy Watson

If you’re one of the people tweeting #NeverMyPresident, I suggest you stop paying your taxes and see what happens.

What does that even mean?

Fuck if I know.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 7:36:14am

re: #225 Timothy Watson

What does that even mean?

It makes sense only in Shapiro’s head.

What would happen if you don’t pay your taxes? Makes no difference who is president — the IRS gets their money anyway, one way or another. Even Trump might be liable someday. Only alumni associations are more persistent than the revenuers.

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BeachDem Dec 20, 2016 • 7:39:35am

Guess the yam wanted to see what a real billionaire looked like:

Donald Trump invited Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim to dine with him at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach this weekend.

Wonder if he served the leftovers from the “press” cocktail party?

Who arranged this little gabfest?

The Post reported that the meeting had been arranged through back-channel negotiations that Slim opened up with the President-elect’s former campaign manager and informal advisor, Corey Lewandowski.

Oh, THAT Corey Lewandowski—the one CNN paid to be a pundit while he was still working for the yam.

talkingpointsmemo.com
We. Are. Fucked.

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 7:40:53am

re: #231 BeachDem

History of the World, Part 1- “Pull!!”

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 7:42:52am

re: #239 BeachDem

El Chapo was unavailable.

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 7:44:40am

re: #224 gocart mozart

Stop paying taxes? Why? Trump’s going to significantly cut the taxes on the rich - from the estate tax to the corporate income tax, plus cutting corporate taxes. All those tax cuts disproportionately give massive tax breaks to the rich like him, and the super rich, like some of his buddies who he’s envious of.

Everyone else? We’re going to be picking up the burdens, because all those tax cuts will mean less for basic services. Trickle down BS remains BS.

But then again, the GOP war against the IRS means that the IRS has fewer people to administer and enforce the taxes it collects, meaning that audit rates are likely to go even lower, enabling taxpayers like Trump to get away with paying even less or not at all by any means at their disposal - legal avoidance or illegal evasion of tax.

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 7:44:56am

re: #241 wheat-dogg

El Chapo was unavailable.

El Chapo has standards.

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BeachDem Dec 20, 2016 • 7:45:05am

re: #241 wheat-dogg

El Chapo was unavailable.

He’s being vetted for the DEA job.

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wheat-dogg Dec 20, 2016 • 7:48:05am

re: #244 BeachDem

He’s being vetted for the DEA job.

Trump doesn’t vet. Neither does his team. They interview and nominate the people who don’t say no to working under Trump.

Lawhawk is right. El Chapo has standards, and he’d probably say no.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 7:56:15am

re: #245 wheat-dogg

Trump doesn’t vet. Neither does his team. They interview and nominate the people who don’t say no to working under Trump.

Lawhawk is right. El Chapo has standards, and he’d probably say no.

“Vetting” means “seeing how much money he donated to the campaign or the Trump Foundation”.

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 20, 2016 • 7:57:12am

re: #244 BeachDem

He’s being vetted for the DEA job.

I thought Walter White got that appointment.

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Jayleia Dec 20, 2016 • 8:03:27am

re: #247 Big Beautiful Door

Besides, Chapo couldn’t get the job, he’s Mexican.

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 8:05:54am

re: #248 Jayleia

Besides, Chapo couldn’t get the job, he’s Mexican.

But he’ll save the taxpayers money doing the job for half the salary an American requires.

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 8:14:32am

The sheer dumbassery of some people spouting off about events and history they are completely ignorant of.

I just saw someone tweet that Turkey should have never allowed Muslims into their country…I will now take a hammer to my head

— Lexi Alexander (@Lexialex) December 19, 2016

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Yes folks, there are people who think that Muslims who live in a region predating the current country of Turkey should never have been allowed in to the country.

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 20, 2016 • 8:16:27am

re: #250 lawhawk

The sheer dumbassery of some people spouting off about events and history they are completely ignorant of.

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Yes folks, there are people who think that Muslims who live in a region predating the current country of Turkey should never have been allowed in to the country.

The Byzantium Empire made a big mistake letting Muslims in. Sad!/

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 8:17:13am

re: #250 lawhawk

The sheer dumbassery of some people spouting off about events and history they are completely ignorant of.

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Yes folks, there are people who think that Muslims who live in a region predating the current country of Turkey should never have been allowed in to the country.

Well, the Grecians [Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire] tried their damnedest to stop it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 8:18:04am

re: #252 Timothy Watson

Well, the Grecians [Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire) tried their damnedest to stop it.

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Grecian Formula 16th Century…

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 8:39:45am

Well that’s a creative way of describing a Nazi

Gunman who shot three worshippers at mosque in Zurich was interested in “the occult”, police have said https://t.co/vcMYRk8WOH

— Sky News (@SkyNews) December 20, 2016

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 8:40:30am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

And a creative way of avoiding using the term terrorist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 8:41:44am

re: #255 lawhawk

And a creative way of avoiding using the term terrorist.

Sounds awfully lonely-wolfy…

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 8:43:04am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

Well that’s a creative way of describing a Nazi

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Hard to say:

Police said the man, a Swiss national of Ghanaian origin whose name has not yet been released, was already known to them.

I assume someone from Ghana would be African…

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Romantic Heretic Dec 20, 2016 • 8:48:07am

re: #177 wheat-dogg

Fond of Shostakovich myself.

Dmitri Shostakovich - Symphony No. 7 “Leningrad”

And Mussorgsky.

Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition

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Romantic Heretic Dec 20, 2016 • 8:49:50am

re: #185 wheat-dogg

Fitting for the incoming administration

Too modern for them. They’re the reason The Flood was triggered in the first place.

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goddamnedfrank Dec 20, 2016 • 9:10:22am

New weird dream-fact.

You know that second or two as you are waking up where you’re absolutely sure that really weird fact you dreamed about has to be true …

— Frank-incensed (@goddamnedfrank) December 7, 2016

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Did you know that @DonCheadle was a session Ondes Martenot player on an obscure @MichealKeaton 1977 Grammy nominated jazz album?

— Frank-incensed (@goddamnedfrank) December 20, 2016

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allegro Dec 20, 2016 • 9:10:55am

re: #209 Dave In Austin

I’ve come to the conclusion the “The Man In The High Castle” is not a good thing to be watching while this is going on……

Oh no shit. I watched the last couple of episodes last night and it freaked. me. out. Seriously, I thought I was going to arp.

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sagehen Dec 20, 2016 • 9:13:12am

re: #258 Romantic Heretic

Fond of Shostakovich myself.

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And Tchaikovsky

V For Vendetta Music Video (Tchaikovsky - 1812 Overture)

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goddamnedfrank Dec 20, 2016 • 9:13:32am

re: #209 Dave In Austin

I’ve come to the conclusion the “The Man In The High Castle” is not a good thing to be watching while this is going on……

I called it yesterday.

Season Two of The Man in the High Castle has filed a federal lawsuit against modern reality for theft of intellectual property.

— Frank-incensed (@goddamnedfrank) December 20, 2016

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 9:18:02am

re: #258 Romantic Heretic

And in honor of the passing of Greg Lake (and Keith Emerson earlier this year):

Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Pictures At An Exhibition - Live In Montreal, 1977

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wrenchwench Dec 20, 2016 • 9:19:33am

From ‘Bug Gwen’, of course.

Tis the season etc etc pic.twitter.com/rf4jLVirfC

— Gwen Pearson🐝 (@bug_gwen) December 20, 2016

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wrenchwench Dec 20, 2016 • 9:21:52am

I be wrenchin’ today. When you see me, just type BACK TO WORK, all caps like that. Should work. I should work…

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electrotek Dec 20, 2016 • 9:27:31am

re: #250 lawhawk

The sheer dumbassery of some people spouting off about events and history they are completely ignorant of.

Yes folks, there are people who think that Muslims who live in a region predating the current country of Turkey should never have been allowed in to the country.

They have an unhealthy obsession with the events of 1453.

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 9:31:20am

re: #267 electrotek

THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS “Istanbul (Not Constantinople)”

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 9:31:59am

I think often abt the one and only time I met Trump. It was 2011, and I wrote abt it… pic.twitter.com/kYaEt0Hdx8

— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) December 20, 2016

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Skip Intro Dec 20, 2016 • 9:35:06am

re: #132 wheat-dogg

Thanks for sharing, Tom. Where have you been these last few months?

Great sense of timing.

Like it would have mattered.

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Eventual Carrion Dec 20, 2016 • 9:36:35am

re: #150 Weaselone

Wait. So someone drives a truck into a crowd and manages to get away while police grab the wrong person. How the hell does that happen?

Profiling rather than fact finding?

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 9:37:36am

re: #231 BeachDem

WTF is a sportsman’s charity?

My guess: Maybe the NRA. :/

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electrotek Dec 20, 2016 • 9:37:39am

re: #150 Weaselone

Wait. So someone drives a truck into a crowd and manages to get away while police grab the wrong person. How the hell does that happen?

Say what you want about the police in America, but they do a much better job of catching suspects in these situations than other countries.

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allegro Dec 20, 2016 • 9:41:28am

re: #271 Eventual Carrion

Profiling rather than fact finding?

Here’s my scenario: Nazi steals a truck and picks up the appropriately hued Muslim immigrant to give him a ride. Crashes into the market, killing and injuring proper Germans, then bolts leaving the Muslim guy to take the rap and generate press about an ISIL attack. By the time any investigation is done the false narrative is gospel. The End.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 9:41:29am

Except it’s not a calculated “strategy” it’s what he really is: an out of control maniac loose with the nuke codes.

Donald Trump embraces the risky “Madman Theory” on foreign policy https://t.co/KNd8h6M9N9

— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) December 20, 2016

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Skip Intro Dec 20, 2016 • 9:41:54am

re: #164 Lani

I’ve given up hope of of woman president in my lifetime. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m not betting on it.

If there is one her name will be Ivanka.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 9:42:05am

re: #261 allegro

Oh no shit. I watched the last couple of episodes last night and it freaked. me. out. Seriously, I thought I was going to arp.

I was planning to catch up on Series 2 over Xmas…please, no spoilers (I read the book, though)

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 9:42:19am

re: #274 allegro

Here’s my scenario: Nazi steals a truck and picks up the appropriately hued Muslim immigrant to give him a ride. Crashes into the market, killing and injuring proper Germans, then bolts leaving the Muslim guy to take the rap and generate press about an ISIL attack. By the time any investigation is done the false narrative is gospel. The End.

Actually that was part of a movie plot, “The Long Kiss Goodnight” with Geena Davis and Samuel L. Jackson.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 9:43:09am

re: #264 lawhawk

And in honor of the passing of Greg Lake (and Keith Emerson earlier this year):

One of my first albums and one of my first “complete” collections (all of ELP’s early albums up to Brain Salad Surgery)

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allegro Dec 20, 2016 • 9:44:19am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was planning to catch up on Series 2 over Xmas…please, no spoilers (I read the book, though)

Nope, wouldn’t do that to you. ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 9:45:50am

re: #274 allegro

Here’s my scenario: Nazi steals a truck and picks up the appropriately hued Muslim immigrant to give him a ride. Crashes into the market, killing and injuring proper Germans, then bolts leaving the Muslim guy to take the rap and generate press about an ISIL attack. By the time any investigation is done the false narrative is gospel. The End.

Trump has already condemned it as an act of Islamic Terrorism so any subsequent story must be adjusted to fit that.

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Skip Intro Dec 20, 2016 • 9:49:59am

re: #209 Dave In Austin

I’ve come to the conclusion the “The Man In The High Castle” is not a good thing to be watching while this is going on……

The election ruined it for me, as well as any future episodes of House of Cards or Veep. Rumors are that House of Cards season 5 has been cancelled (probably BS), but what’s the point? The Trump freak show will outdo any fictional show by miles.

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Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 20, 2016 • 9:51:34am

re: #260 goddamnedfrank

Prima nox, or (ius) primae noctis.

/pedant

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 9:51:53am

re: #282 Skip Intro

The election ruined it for me, as well as any future episodes of House of Cards or Veep. Rumors are that House of Cards season 5 has been cancelled (probably BS), but what’s the point? The Trump freak show will outdo any fictional show by miles.

It is Reality Television at a governmental level. I never watched the Hunger Games, but I from what I have heard of it, the Trump Administration could qualify as the prequel…

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 9:53:07am

There are several threads under this tweet that end up being pretty interesting:

There is endless ableist crap on display here but I, a highly anxious person, wanna discuss how this is the THE WRONG WAY to look at stories pic.twitter.com/PFziYsLGq9

— Gillian Merry (@mizgillianberry) December 20, 2016

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Something noted more than once: When the supposedly enlightened white girl gripes about “a paraplegic on a LOTR style quest,” she doesn’t realize she’s describing Bran Stark in Game of Thrones, and when she pooh-poohs “a victim of racial issues time traveling to where it is only worse,” she’s describing the exact plot of Octavia Butler’s “Kindred.”

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 9:55:49am

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

The international system has long relied on the rational actor theory - and abhors irrationality - because the way to avoid conflict is to know what a given person/power would do in the circumstances.

If Trump has gone this route, it will do tremendous damage to the US and its strategic, tactical, and economic interests around the world.

No one will be able to trust whatever Trump says, because his views will change with the weather. And ultimately that harms the US far more than it helps.

But no one has bothered to tell Trump or his idiot followers that adopting the Iranian mullah or Kim Jong Un madman routine is bad for business in the US (or around the world). Businesses and countries will look for safer havens to conduct business, and are more likely to freeze the US or give less favorable terms.

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allegro Dec 20, 2016 • 9:56:19am

re: #282 Skip Intro

The election ruined it for me, as well as any future episodes of House of Cards or Veep. Rumors are that House of Cards season 5 has been cancelled (probably BS), but what’s the point? The Trump freak show will outdo any fictional show by miles.

Kinda shared that feeling but jumped in anyway having invested in the first season. (Curiosity seems ALWAYS to win out with me, overcoming dread.) Glad I did even though it freaked me out. Worth it.

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ObserverArt Dec 20, 2016 • 9:56:55am

re: #190 Bass Reeves

You might have missed this, but before Trump was assisted by Russia and the FBI, he beat the brakes off the Republican challengers, and continues to humiliate them daily. He co-opted the head of the RNC. The Republicans have no leash on Trump. They have no leverage over him in any way whatsoever, because his only actual motivation is the grift. Calling him out for treason will not stop the grift, and he is vastly more effective as a populist than the rest of that party.

The other side of this is that they don’t *need* to impeach him. Almost all of the stuff he needs doing that Congress wouldn’t like, Congress has to implement. Congress doesn’t bring it up, it never gets to his desk to sign. He doesn’t care. He’ll grift, and if people complain about how he’s not hitting his policy marks he’ll blame the Republicans in Congress for not doing their job. Why? Because the people who voted for him will still vote their guy back in, and think Congress is worthless, and Trump is great.

TL;DR: Trump is the GOP master.

Hopefully a little bit of thinking Congress is worthless does occur…a throw the bums out thinking happens in two years and the Democrats can sneak in and retake both houses.

And then they can deal with Trump by blocking him and digging up the dirt that will most likely be there to get his ass impeached. Since he will have caused the loss of the Republican congress, many of the Republicans left will be more than glad to help Democrats push him out.

Hey! I can dream too. And unlike so many these days, I’m gonna keep my thoughts politically as positive as possible. It beats the hell out of talking of moving out of the country, civil wars, session and other really depressing things I see these days. And yes, a lot of that depression is right here at Little Green Footballs.

Can it all go to hell? Yes, but until then I’m not going to roll around in misery. It’s bad for the soul. Positivity wins the day.

What good has ever come from wallowing in depression and giving up hope? I still have a thought that negativity led to Trump. It was used to paint Clinton so that the truly bad got in? Isn’t that example enough?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 9:58:55am

re: #286 lawhawk

The international system has long relied on the rational actor theory - and abhors irrationality - because the way to avoid conflict is to know what a given person/power would do in the circumstances.

Again, we have elected a President with no record of public service to refer to, and one whose private business record is only partially known.

That is fine for those who despise politics as usual and politicians and want to see them get their comeuppance, but it is toxic to our foreign relations.

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JasonA Dec 20, 2016 • 10:00:42am

This is honestly insulting. A masters degree is required and the starting salary is $9.25 an hour? pic.twitter.com/GGD88UvOzD

— dab of d*ck (@moeshamitchel) December 20, 2016

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ObserverArt Dec 20, 2016 • 10:00:46am

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Jesus Christ CNN

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Damn CNN. Fucking idiots.

I think I know what has happened. They turned it up to 11 after that damn missing plane BS and then took that same stupid style into the election.

What happens when you turn past 10? Distortion.

And they sure as hell distorted Michelle Obama’s comments.

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CuriousLurker Dec 20, 2016 • 10:01:32am

Not sure what to make of this, so I’ll just leave it here—I don’t know if it’s poor reporting, intentional distortion, or if the FOP is lying. From Mother Jones on Dec. 13:

Here’s What the Biggest Police Union Wants From Trump
^{A return to racial profiling and deporting immigrants: The Fraternal Order of Police has a plan for Trump’s first 100 days.}

Update, 12/19/16: The Fraternal Order of Police has since added a note to the bottom of the list of policies saying that the document does not represent the FOP’s agenda and is not a advocacy document. “It is an advisory to our members as to what may happen when the new Administration takes over,” reads the statement.

Donald Trump didn’t earn too many endorsements from unions during his presidential campaign, but one enthusiastically supported him. The national Fraternal Order of Police (FOP), which boasts more than 330,000 members and is the country’s largest police union, announced in September that it would be backing Trump because he “understands and supports” its priorities. (The organization declined to make a formal endorsement in the 2012 presidential election but in 2008 backed John McCain.) Trump’s rhetoric on safety and law and order seemed to align with the right-leaning union. “Our members believe he will make America safe again,” the group explained when it announced its support. About a week after Election Day, it offered the president-elect a list of its priorities for the first 100 days of his administration.

motherjones.com

I just want to say that I haven’t been around much because as a Muslim I belong to a group that has been explicitly singled out by DT—not to mention other politicians or people who are, or soon will be, in positions of authority—so I have every reason to be extremely concerned.

That said, I don’t find hysteria helpful/useful in any manner shape or form. People need to get a grip, for everyone’s sake. If right-wing authoritarianism is going to be fought, then it needs to be done by adults with clear heads, not fearful hand-wringing children gibbering hyperbolically about imminent doom. Those things help no one, least of all the people who will need the assistance & protection of their fellow Americans the most. No one is going to save us, we have to save ourselves.

We’ve been here before, when we were filled with terror, rage and dread after 9/11. What followed? We ended up giving up too many of our freedoms for safety, spending trillions on wars (one of which still hasn’t ended), and sending thousands of our young people to be killed & maimed in wars that cannot be won because they are fighting an ideology, not a physical enemy. And guess what? We’re no safer now than we were then—we bought the illusion of safety. Let’s not do that again.

That is all.

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 10:01:53am

re: #282 Skip Intro

The election ruined it for me, as well as any future episodes of House of Cards or Veep. Rumors are that House of Cards season 5 has been cancelled (probably BS), but what’s the point? The Trump freak show will outdo any fictional show by miles.

House of Cards is escapist fiction to me now.

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Skip Intro Dec 20, 2016 • 10:03:03am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He now has a OMB candidate who agrees with him that defaulting on US debt would be NO BIG DEAL.

Because the GOP controls the Senate, and some Dems are going to cross over to vote with the GOP because they’re gutless, I think Trump will get 100% of his cabinet picks and appointments approved.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 10:03:36am

re: #290 JasonA

This is honestly insulting. A masters degree is required and the starting salary is $9.25 an hour?

lemme guess: a private agency contracting out government social service work?

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 10:06:10am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

lemme guess: a private agency contracting out government social service work?

Joseph & Sarah Caring for Veterans - Atlanta, GA 30314
indeed.com

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 10:09:02am

McConnell rejects push for select committee probe of Russian hacking | PBS NewsHour https://t.co/O9S9bxvkM1

— Maggie Kaigler (@newsgirl123456) December 20, 2016

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How about another Benghazi hearing though. Can’t have enough of those. https://t.co/AcoOx19mKp

— President ManBaby (@Sh1tTheGOPsays) December 20, 2016

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Eventual Carrion Dec 20, 2016 • 10:09:03am

re: #234 Colère Tueur de Lapin

These articles keep saying all these influence/access buying events are ethically questionable. I’m pretty sure there are no questions that is ethically repugnant.

But Hillary was “pay to play” and was the “Wall Street/Goldman Sachs candidate”.

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Jenner7 Dec 20, 2016 • 10:10:04am

BREAKING: on FBI search warrant that led to Comey letter - per @RandySchoenberg no probable cause!!!! pic.twitter.com/72WpV5uRxX

— Amy Siskind (@Amy_Siskind) December 20, 2016

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 10:10:35am

re: #288 ObserverArt

What good has ever come from wallowing in depression and giving up hope?

Pessimism has never actually steered me wrong yet. :/

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Timothy Watson Dec 20, 2016 • 10:10:39am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

How about another Benghazi hearing though. Can’t have enough of those.

Don’t need Benghazi hearings anymore, Clinton was defeated thanks to Benghazi and the thousand other pseudo-scandals.

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allegro Dec 20, 2016 • 10:11:08am

re: #292 CuriousLurker

Something I’ve been seeing that gives me fuel for hope: pushback seems to be working to some extent. The FOP crap starts getting negative public attention and they back off - though like Trump, gaslighting with “we didn’t say what you heard. Really.” Doesn’t mean it will stick of course, but it does demonstrate that aggressive public opinion does get to them. How far? Dunno but let’s keep calling them out, loud, over and over. Could be the best resistance ammo we’ve got.

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Skip Intro Dec 20, 2016 • 10:13:49am

re: #301 Timothy Watson

Don’t need Benghazi hearings anymore, Clinton was defeated thanks to Benghazi and the thousand other pseudo-scandals.

The base would love it so don’t be so quick to dismiss the possibility, although looking into Hillary’s Russian connections that Kellyanne Conway suggested the other day may be on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 20, 2016 • 10:13:57am

EXCLUSIVE: Russia is missing from Trump’s top defense priorities, according to a DoD memo obtained by FP. https://t.co/CU3cYgmzYh pic.twitter.com/vjMS4tzPdu

— Foreign Policy (@ForeignPolicy) December 20, 2016

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 20, 2016 • 10:14:34am

re: #302 allegro

Something I’ve been seeing that gives me fuel for hope: pushback seems to be working to some extent. The FOP crap starts getting negative public attention and they back off - though like Trump, gaslighting with “we didn’t say what you heard. Really.” Doesn’t mean it will stick of course, but it does demonstrate that aggressive public opinion does get to them. How far? Dunno but let’s keep calling them out, loud, over and over. Could be the best resistance ammo we’ve got.

Because starting January 20, its open season on minorities for cops in America. The Justice Department will conduct no civil rights investigations of the shooting of unarmed minorities by cops.

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scottslemmons Dec 20, 2016 • 10:15:53am

re: #290 JasonA

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Seems like most of the job notices I see either want lots and lots of education/experience for not very much salary, or they want one person who can do a vast number of tasks — web design, graphic design, writing, social media, site maintenance, video and more — also for not very much salary. :/

I’ve basically resigned myself to living in my parents’ back room and getting some pickup jobs sweeping out a few businesses.

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allegro Dec 20, 2016 • 10:17:13am

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

Because starting January 20, its open season on minorities for cops in America. The Justice Department will conduct no civil rights investigations of the shooting of unarmed minorities by cops.

I’m not that cynical. I still believe that there are good people determined to do the right thing. Beyond that is the business community - riots are not good for anyone’s business except the NRA. Gated communities only protect so far. Self-preservation works both ways.

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 10:18:22am

Trump claims he opposes corporate trade deals — but he’s packing his cabinet with TPP & corporate trade supporters. #DrainTheSwamp pic.twitter.com/KzDKQeWcLN

— Sierra Club (@sierraclub) December 20, 2016

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79% of Trump’s cabinet picks to date have supported the #TPP and/or the corporate trade agenda. #DrainTheSwamp

— Sierra Club (@sierraclub) December 20, 2016

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Trump knew his marks better than they knew themselves. He identified the BS that his supporters wanted to hear and repeated the lie incessantly.

And promptly went back on his “word.”

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 20, 2016 • 10:19:38am

re: #307 allegro

I’m not that cynical. I still believe that there are good people determined to do the right thing. Beyond that is the business community - riots are not good for anyone’s business except the NRA. Gated communities only protect so far. Self-preservation works both ways.

Jeff Sessions isn’t one of those good people. His top priority will be protecting the “religious liberty” to discriminate against the LGBTQ community.

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 20, 2016 • 10:21:16am

re: #308 lawhawk

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Trump knew his marks better than they knew themselves. He identified the BS that his supporters wanted to hear and repeated the lie incessantly.

And promptly went back on his “word.”

Trump may “renegotiate” TPP to make it a “great deal” then submit it for ratification.

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Eclectic Cyborg Dec 20, 2016 • 10:21:33am

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

Because starting January 20, its open season on minorities for cops in America. The Justice Department will conduct no civil rights investigations of the shooting of unarmed minorities by cops.

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allegro Dec 20, 2016 • 10:23:16am

re: #309 Big Beautiful Door

Jeff Sessions isn’t one of those good people. His top priority will be protecting the “religious liberty” to discriminate against the LGBTQ community.

Totally agree. There are more of us than there are of him and even among his own believers are those who will push back when their own are targeted. If they don’t, we’ll push harder.

Refuse to be defeatist. That’s when they win.

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Eclectic Cyborg Dec 20, 2016 • 10:24:40am

re: #312 allegro

I agree. They want left leaning folks to be demoralized. Demoralized people are easier to take advantage of.

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allegro Dec 20, 2016 • 10:27:43am

re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg

I agree. They want left leaning folks to be demoralized. Demoralized people are easier to take advantage of.

And intimidated. That what Trump’s and Putin’s screaming monkeys are charged with.

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lawhawk Dec 20, 2016 • 10:28:14am

re: #310 Big Beautiful Door

He’ll rename it OPP because you know me… /sarc not sarc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 20, 2016 • 10:31:55am

developing political squabble:

Probably the biggest Brexit change at the Treasury is Xmas cards sent out by Chancellor and Chief Secretary are now the cutest! pic.twitter.com/0mlZr95jQY

— Robert Peston (@Peston) December 20, 2016

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I beg to differ… https://t.co/gz5OenpRKn

— Larry the Cat (@Number10cat) December 20, 2016

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gocart mozart Dec 20, 2016 • 10:34:51am

“And this is Lord Vader. People say he’s a Sith but he prefers the term ‘alt-Jedi.’”

— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) December 20, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 20, 2016 • 10:37:00am

re: #317 gocart mozart

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Darth Vader is Billy Joel and here’s the PROOF https://t.co/igLimFmLbd pic.twitter.com/6qjvxuYYai

— The Poke (@ThePoke) December 20, 2016

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Kragar Dec 20, 2016 • 10:38:58am

I’m disappointed the rebels in #rogueone didn’t accept defeat & try to understand why the empire’s message registered with flyover states

— Joel Pavelski (@joelcifer) December 19, 2016

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ObserverArt Dec 20, 2016 • 10:40:10am

re: #231 BeachDem

Probably a pretty good guess:

The brochure says that “all net proceeds from the Opening Day event will be donated to conservation charities,” but it does not name the charities or detail how net proceeds will be calculated… it’s going to raise a lot of money to go to sportsman’s charities” and conservation charities,

WTF is a sportsman’s charity?

That would be for the Trump boy’s hunting endeavors. In other words, their own charity…pay their way.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 20, 2016 • 10:41:00am

Report: Woman dragged off plane refused bag check, ID. https://t.co/sNJwaNNBhF pic.twitter.com/NrppGayCzb

— The Detroit News (@detroitnews) December 20, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 20, 2016 • 10:41:02am

Billionaire Gannett gets tens of millions from taxpayers but won’t open books & plan to layoff Bergen county workers. Weinberg sides w/them.

— Governor Christie (@GovChristie) December 20, 2016

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Chris Christie is testing the old proverb about picking fights with people who buy ink by the barrel https://t.co/AqUgvyTVic

— Chris Megerian (@ChrisMegerian) December 20, 2016

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gocart mozart Dec 20, 2016 • 10:42:41am

re: #268 lawhawk

They Might Be Giants - The Mesopotamians (official TMBG video)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 10:43:16am

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

Because starting January 20, its open season on minorities for cops in America. The Justice Department will conduct no civil rights investigations of the shooting of unarmed minorities by cops.

and all the Zimmermans out there will be able to Stand Their Ground with increasing impunity.

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ObserverArt Dec 20, 2016 • 10:44:14am

re: #235 Timothy Watson

Of course not, that’s why I won’t give money to charitable groups without reading through their 990 Forms.

I’m sure you know it, but by law a charity has to disclose the percentage on profits that go to the actual beneficiary. So when called ask them.

I had some Ohio Troopers Coalition call just the other day and gave me a big ol’ spiel. I said hold on, how much goes to any actual Troopers activity here in Ohio? He stammered a bit and then said “well, by law I have to inform you that no more than 10% goes” and I stopped him right then and said no thanks and you should be ashamed. “Click” and the phone went dead.

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Skip Intro Dec 20, 2016 • 10:45:21am

re: #320 ObserverArt

That would be for the Trump boy’s hunting endeavors. In other words, their own charity…pay their way.

You have to feel for the Trump kids. With extinctions speeding up there may be species they won’t get to kill if they don’t hurry up.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Dec 20, 2016 • 10:45:50am

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

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Poor person in seat 24E if she had stayed; 350 pounds of fun seatmate.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Dec 20, 2016 • 10:47:48am

re: #325 ObserverArt

I didn’t know that solicitors needed to tell you this information if asked. Thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 20, 2016 • 10:48:15am

Man caught with loaded gun in backpack at #Newark airport, police say https://t.co/VjlGb63idX #NewarkAirport #EWR pic.twitter.com/aRwnu4cFV2

— nj.com (@njdotcom) December 20, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 20, 2016 • 10:49:04am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Man caught with loaded gun in backpack at #Newark airport, police say

Poor lonely white wolf…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 20, 2016 • 10:50:21am

ummmm…no, I won’t…

Trump adviser: Don’t take Trump literally, “take him symbolically” https://t.co/dc2f1vc6Rh pic.twitter.com/nuahMlcaap

— POLITICO (@politico) December 20, 2016

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electrotek Dec 20, 2016 • 10:50:56am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s white, he gets a free pass.

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