The Bob & Chez Show: Taking a Stand for Christ

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:

Taking A Stand For Christ: Stupid Trump meme says Obama banned Christmas; Trump voters are badly misinformed; 52 percent say Trump won the popular vote; FBI and DNI agree with CIA about Russia hack; Kellyanne Conway says it’s unpatriotic to believe Russia story; Greenwald is completely wrong on Russia; Trump says China should keep the drone; and more.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:37:27pm

It is no longer forbidden to say Merry Christmas!!!

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electrotek  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:39:38pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is no longer forbidden to say Merry Christmas!!!

But can I say Feliz Navidad instead? Or is that too Hispanic and foreign for the wingnuts?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:41:05pm

re: #2 electrotek

But can I say Feliz Navidad instead? Or is that too Hispanic and foreign for the wingnuts?

No, that is now forbidden! We are in Christian America, one Nation under God!!!

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Tyrion  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:42:46pm

Random middle of the day(for me anyway) announcement: I’ve been mostly lurking and reading for the past two years. Glad to see people that mostly seem to be in line with my thoughts and feelings and above all, when they don’t align, have respectful conversations.

I figure with this turn of events(now there is an understatement) in the USA, I might be more “talkative” on this site than before. I just wanted to 1.) warn you (lol) and 2.) let everyone know, Charles especially, that I truly appreciate the forum.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:43:46pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:45:21pm

re: #4 Tyrion

Random middle of the day(for me anyway) announcement: I’ve been mostly lurking and reading for the past two years. Glad to see people that mostly seem to be in line with my thoughts and feelings and above all, when they don’t align, have respectful conversations.

I joined this site in 2007, when it was still a lot more conservative. In fact, I came here for a good argument. But even back then, I found that people were reasonable about it, even in disagreement.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:45:59pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:49:28pm
While stitching a cut on the hand of a 75 year old farmer, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Donald Trump and his role as the Republican Nominee for President. The old farmer said, ” Well, as I see it, Donald Trump is like a ‘Post Tortoise’.” Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post tortoise’ was. The old farmer said, “When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a tortoise balanced on top, that’s a post tortoise.” The old farmer saw the puzzled look on the doctor’s face so he continued to explain.

“You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he’s up there, he’s elevated beyond his ability to function, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put him up there to begin with.”

thefogbow.com

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Tyrion  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:51:03pm

re: #6 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I joined this site in 2007, when it was still a lot more conservative. In fact, I came here for a good argument. But even back then, I found that people were reasonable about it, even in disagreement.

The funny thing for me is that the two main blogging sites I go to are this one and Balloon Juice.

It’s pretty hard to find anyplace anymore that you can actually discuss things with people instead of having to think of new and funny ways to attack them. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I like to punch holes in the wingnut bubble but after a while you just realize that you can’t really debate things with people that have a totally different reality than the one you live in.

The fact that there is now a segment of America that would suck up to Russia(!) and take the things they say as more truthful than other Americans is just something that seems beyond the pale. Unfortunately, I think the “pale” is going to be much beyond for the next four years.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:54:55pm

re: #5 CuriousLurker

José Feliciano: Childhood

Feliciano was born in Lares, Puerto Rico, on September 10, 1945. Left permanently blind at birth as a result of congenital glaucoma, he was first exposed to music at the age of three; he would play on a tin cracker can while accompanying his uncle, who played the cuatro. When Feliciano was five, his family moved to Spanish Harlem, New York City, and at nine he played the Teatro Puerto Rico in The Bronx.

Feliciano started his musical life playing the accordion until his father gave him, in a brown paper bag, his first guitar. He would play his guitar by himself in his room for up to 14 hours a day, and would listen to 1950s rock’n’roll, records of classical guitarists and jazz players. Andrés Segovia and Wes Montgomery were among his favorites. Feliciano later had classical lessons with Harold Morris, who had been a student of Segovia. In a 1969 interview, he also mentioned soul music in general, and Ray Charles in particular, as influences on his singing.

At 17, he quit school to play in clubs. He had his first professional, contracted performance in Detroit.

en.wikipedia.org

Feliz Navidad was HUGELY popular back in Texas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:55:14pm

re: #9 Tyrion

The fact that there is now a segment of America that would suck up to Russia(!) and take the things they say as more truthful than other Americans is just something that seems beyond the pale. Unfortunately, I think the “pale” is going to be much beyond for the next four years.

That shift took place over the past eight years: Putin rides bareback, bare-chested and kills bears with his bare hands.

Obama wears mom jeans and rides a mountain bike with a helmet on.

The choice is clear to any True Patriot.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:55:56pm

Our Senators released a statement in opposition to settling refugees in a town not far from here. While thumbing through the comments on one news page, I noticed alot of the people against refugees settling in the area were being (rightfully) called out as hypocrites for claiming to be Christians while turning away those in need. One woman went so far as to say “Jesus would consider [refugees] evil” and that charity shouldn’t come with risk. Y’know who, according to their religion, took the greatest risk in order to help others? Their own damn messiah! He was nailed to a cross! People like them are the reason I left organized religion and never looked back.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:58:24pm
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Belafon  Dec 20, 2016 • 1:58:36pm

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Obama. And anyone who says otherwise will be called a traitor by me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:01:27pm

re: #9 Tyrion

The funny thing for me is that the two main blogging sites I go to are this one and Balloon Juice.

It’s pretty hard to find anyplace anymore that you can actually discuss things with people instead of having to think of new and funny ways to attack them. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I like to punch holes in the wingnut bubble but after a while you just realize that you can’t really debate things with people that have a totally different reality than the one you live in.

The fact that there is now a segment of America that would suck up to Russia(!) and take the things they say as more truthful than other Americans is just something that seems beyond the pale. Unfortunately, I think the “pale” is going to be much beyond for the next four years.

Indeed, I wonder how we get back from this brink, if we haven’t already fallen into the abyss. The other day, my Idiot Brother (voted for Stein) said, “Democrats need to stop talking about Gun Control, and Republicans need to stop talking about Democrats banning guns”, as if there’s some middle ground we can seek out between our position and theirs. But there isn’t, because our position is “If you say that the problem is not guns, but rather guns in the wrong hands, let’s keep them out of the wrong hands”, and theirs is, “FUCK YOU! I KNEW YOU WANTED TO BAN GUNS!!!!”

Where’s the middle ground THERE?

The other thing? The states that unexpectedly went for Trump, and the counties in those states that swung for him are also counties that have had the highest increase in heroin deaths, driven in part by the disappearance of ‘that little factory that employed half the town’. Turns out there’s nothing special about white people. Take away their hope, and they turn to drugs. This would be the perfect time for the White Working Class to join with the rest of the working class and start demanding a better future.

That’s not the choice they made, though. They went with the guy who promised them he’d make the past come back. They decided to become the half of the working class Jay Gould could hire to murder the other half.

Working class people who AREN’T white? Well, they remember that past, so they’re in no rush to go back.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:01:31pm
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CuriousLurker  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:02:11pm

re: #12 Arkansawyer

Reminds me of an article from earlier this month about a church in Maryland:

Dundalk church fined $12,000 for helping the homeless

DUNDALK, Md. - A Dundalk church faces a fine of $12,000 for helping the homeless.

“I showed up Wednesday morning to find a citation on the door that said we’re going to be fined $12,000 and have a court date because we have unhoused homeless people sleeping outside the church at night,” said Reverend Katie Grover with the Patapsco United Methodist Church.

Grover added that the men and women who sleep outside their doors do so because they have nowhere else to go and because they feel safe there.

“We feel we here as a church that it’s scriptural mandate that’s it an imperative to care for the least, the last, the lost, the poor, the hungry,” she said.

While it may be the business of the church to serve the homeless, Chester Bartko, the owner of a produce stand next door, said it’s hurting his business. […]

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:02:21pm

re: #2 electrotek

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:02:33pm

re: #14 Belafon

Obama. And anyone who says otherwise will be called a traitor by me.

It is scary how quickly they made a he-man hero out of Putin, mostly because he was sold as some sort of Anti-Obama.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:04:19pm

re: #16 gocart mozart

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I’m gonna guess that he’s 1) never been to Europe, certainly not in the last decade, and 2) knows no Muslims personally, and 3) knows for ABSOLUTE CERTAIN all about the Koran and Radical Islamic Terrorism and how they’re going to impose their SHARIA!!!!! on us via gay marriage.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:05:19pm

re: #12 Arkansawyer

Our Senators released a statement in opposition to settling refugees in a town not far from here. While thumbing through the comments on one news page, I noticed alot of the people against refugees settling in the area were being (rightfully) called out as hypocrites for claiming to be Christians while turning away those in need. One woman went so far as to say “Jesus would consider [refugees] evil” and that charity shouldn’t come with risk. Y’know who, according to their religion, took the greatest risk in order to help others? Their own damn messiah! He was nailed to a cross! People like them are the reason I left organized religion and never looked back.

Good for those calling them out. We had something slightly similar when our Democratic former (or soon to be) Maggie Hassan put a hold on any refugees entering—the comments were about “we can’t even take care of our own” and were countered with “where’s your compassion and human decency.” Bringing up the true nature of Christ doesn’t have as much of an impact up here as it does in the south, I guess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:07:23pm

re: #17 CuriousLurker

Reminds me of an article from earlier this month about a church in Maryland:

Dundalk church fined $12,000 for helping the homeless

Odd that this act of Christian charity is not being championed by “religious freedom” law advocates…

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:08:54pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

If you go to his twitter feed, he is dumb as a lamp post and just regurgitates right wing talking points.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:09:02pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:09:33pm

re: #24 gocart mozart

and this is why we are going to be f*cked for the next four (or even eight) years

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:10:36pm

re: #21 Barefoot Grin

Good for those calling them out. We had something slightly similar when our Democratic former (or soon to be) Maggie Hassan put a hold on any refugees entering—the comments were about “we can’t even take care of our own” and were countered with “where’s your compassion and human decency.” Bringing up the true nature of Christ doesn’t have as much of an impact up here as it does in the south, I guess.

Doesn’t have much of an impact here either, sadly. The large majority of the comments were along the lines of “Americans in need first” or “we need to be taking care of our veterans”. I know it’s crazy, but maybe we can do more than one charitable act at once and not be feckless assholes.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:11:21pm

This is the video that destroyed Billy Squire’s career.

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nines09  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:11:54pm

re: #10 CuriousLurker

Remember ? and the Mysterians I never knew that they were the sons of migrant farmers until years later. One ice breaker we used back when I was a younger man in a rock band was the intro into La Bamba. And right where Ritchie would break into “Para bailar la bamba” our singer would say “WHO KNOWS THE WORDS TO LA BAMBA?” and we would stop and all look in different directions. Saw someone on youtube pull that years later…we was ripped off.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:12:05pm

re: #26 Arkansawyer

Doesn’t have much of an impact here either, sadly. The large majority of the comments were along the lines of “Americans in need first” or “we need to be taking care of our veterans”. I know it’s crazy, but maybe we can do more than one charitable act at once and not be feckless assholes.

Because we have been sold the zero-sum mentality that helping one group of people means denying help to another. We must balance the budget, you know…

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:12:32pm

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:13:34pm

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because we have been sold the zero-sum mentality that helping one group of people means denying help to another. We must balance the budget, you know…

Ah yes, the balanced budget. That’s the true Judeo-Christian value.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:14:03pm

Sagan, Hawking and Arthur C. Clarke discuss science.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:14:32pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:14:52pm

re: #31 Arkansawyer

Ah yes, the balanced budget. That’s the true Judeo-Christian value.

Free-Market Jesus tells us it the the Prime Divine Directive.

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:15:12pm

re: #27 gocart mozart

This is the video that destroyed Billy Squire’s career.

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My friends and I still giggle about that video.

Newsday’s resident rock critic at the time, Wayne Robbins, described Squire in that video as ‘acting like a chef whose souffle had fallen.’

Too bad, too. He was actually a pretty good act, wrote some cool songs.

A story for another day - Billy Squire on stage at one of the ‘Les Paul Monday’ events at Iridium in NYC. Gave me a whole ‘nother reason to giggle.

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electrotek  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:15:14pm

re: #5 CuriousLurker

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Beautiful. Much appreciated.

I will return the favor with some more foreign Christmas songs. This time courtesy of famed Lebanese icon Fairuz. Since the wingnuts always talk about how persecuted ME Christians are, they shouldn’t have a problem with this. Or so you’d think.

But enough yappin’, here’s the lovely Fairuz singing a Christmas Carol in Arabic:

Fairuz -Talj talj [Christmas carol ]

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electrotek  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:16:12pm

re: #18 gocart mozart

Classic.

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sagehen  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:16:25pm

re: #9 Tyrion

The fact that there is now a segment of America that would suck up to Russia(!) and take the things they say as more truthful than other Americans is just something that seems beyond the pale. Unfortunately, I think the “pale” is going to be much beyond for the next four years.

It is, actually, LITERALLY “beyond the pale.”

The meaning and origin of the expression: Beyond the pale
phrases.org.uk

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:18:21pm

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Free-Market Jesus tells us it the the Prime Divine Directive.

Free-Market Jesus thinks grape juice is suitable during communion. I don’t trust that guy.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:18:29pm

re: #17 CuriousLurker

Produce store owner needs a protest.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:19:03pm

South Carolina Lawmakers Propose Porn Block On New Computers

Computers and devices sold in South Carolina that can access the internet would be required to have filters installed to prevent people from viewing pornography, although buyers could pay a $20 fee to remove the blocking software under a proposal before the legislature.

The amendment would require manufacturers or sellers of computers and internet-accessible devices to install software that blocks pornography, according to a draft of the amendment filed with the South Carolina General Assembly on Dec. 15.

One of its sponsors said on Tuesday the amendment would help raise money for the state’s task force to combat human trafficking, adding that the measure would not restrict their legal liberties, indicating it would allow for viewing adult pornography.

“This is a way to preserve freedom, not raise taxes and combat a serious problem all in one,” State Representative William “Bill” Chumley, a Republican, said in an interview.

huffingtonpost.com

You can have access to porn, but first you’ll have to register your computer with the SC government. Guns, like always, require no registration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:19:10pm

re: #39 sagehen

It is, actually, LITERALLY “beyond the pale.”

The meaning and origin of the expression: Beyond the pale
phrases.org.uk

who will search for Holy Grail
Past the edge, beyond the pale?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:19:40pm

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Free-Market Jesus tells us it the the Prime Divine Directive.

Can’t have swarthy Middle-Eastern types hanging around your church. Next thing you know some underage bimbo drops her kid in your garden shed and the fuckn’ angels are keeping the whole subdivision up all night.

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electrotek  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:20:01pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

South Carolina Lawmakers Propose Porn Block On New Computers

huffingtonpost.com

You can have access to porn, but first you’ll have to register your computer with the SC government.

Don’t these nincompoops complain about the very same thing with Muslim countries???

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:21:09pm

re: #45 gocart mozart

I think it also stems from a sense of cultural and technical inferiority towards Europe, which we tried to compensate by claiming moral superiority by being God’s Chosen Country.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:21:26pm

re: #46 electrotek

Don’t these nincompoops complain about the very same thing with Muslim countries???

Other than the religion, there’s a lot they like about Muslim countries.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:21:51pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

Can’t have swarthy Middle-Eastern types hanging around your church. Next thing you know some underage bimbo drops her kid in your garden shed and the fuckn’ angels are keeping the whole subdivision up all night.

The POA will call a special meeting about that.

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electrotek  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:22:43pm

re: #48 Skip Intro

Other than the religion, there’s a lot they like about Muslim countries.

Yep. As Kragar once stated before: it’s not the content they oppose, but the branding. Slap a Jesus bumper sticker on it and they’ll fanatically support it.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:23:11pm
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sagehen  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:23:43pm

re: #28 nines09

And right where Ritchie would break into “Para bailar la bamba” our singer would say “WHO KNOWS THE WORDS TO LA BAMBA?” and we would stop and all look in different directions. Saw someone on youtube pull that years later…we was ripped off.

I liked Tonio K’s version better (new lyrics)…

Tonio K - 1 - La Bomba - La Bomba (1982)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:24:09pm

re: #50 electrotek

They are essentially the Muslim Brotherhood.

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electrotek  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:24:40pm

re: #53 Ziggy_TARDIS

They are essentially the Muslim Brotherhood.

They should call themselves the Christian Brotherhood instead.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:25:10pm
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CuriousLurker  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:25:25pm

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

who will search for Holy Grail
Past the edge, beyond the pale?

Matching turquoise suit & piano. Impressive!

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:25:38pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:26:10pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:26:24pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

Matching turquoise suit & piano. Impressive!

That goes beyond a fashion statement: that is a fashion manifesto….hell that is a veritable walking Das Kapital of fashion!

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:26:51pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:27:18pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:28:18pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:29:10pm

I agree with this stock tip.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:29:46pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:30:41pm
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darthstar  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:32:35pm

re: #60 gocart mozart

And still no pictures of Jesus in the wild.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:33:14pm

this shit, and it happened a lot:

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scottslemmons  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:35:03pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

this shit, and it happened a lot:

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All the people who tell me demographics will kill the GOP never seem to realize that if there’s any voting at all in 2018, it’ll only be white people allowed to do it.

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:36:01pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

South Carolina Lawmakers Propose Porn Block On New Computers

huffingtonpost.com

You can have access to porn, but first you’ll have to register your computer with the SC government. Guns, like always, require no registration.

Make WAR not LOVE!

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BeachDem  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:38:59pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

South Carolina Lawmakers Propose Porn Block On New Computers

huffingtonpost.com

You can have access to porn, but first you’ll have to register your computer with the SC government. Guns, like always, require no registration.

Ah, Bill Chumley, who led the “nullification” of Obamacare efforts, led the anti-gay-marriage efforts, and fought like hell to keep the confederate flag flying at the statehouse (even came out with the “if only the people massacred in Charleston had had guns, things would have turned out differently” crusade.

Guess he has some time on his hands now, so he can worry about porn. What an asshole he is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:42:40pm
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electrotek  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:44:50pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

The question is, how would Japan fall into this if they have successful populist movements that can emulate similar success?

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:45:40pm

South Carolina Lawmakers Propose Porn Block On New Computers

huffingtonpost.com

You can have access to porn, but first you’ll have to register your computer with the SC government. Guns, like always, require no registration.

My gut reaction is blatantly unconstitutional. 8/0*

*I did my law school 2 credit 35 pg. brief on internet porn (not snark)

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thedopefishlives  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:46:53pm

Evening Lizardim.

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nines09  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:47:08pm

re: #52 sagehen

Everyone loves La Bomba.

Timbuk 3 - The Future’s So Bright

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:49:08pm

re: #73 gocart mozart

Republicans never give up, and in the end they win more than they lose.

Thought Civil Rights and abortion access were settled issues? The GOP never did, and soon they’ll be gone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:50:33pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 20, 2016 • 2:54:37pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

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thefogbow.com

I hate to bust your bubble but wingnuts were making this same joke about President Obama for 8 years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:01:19pm
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Citizen K  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:04:39pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:08:19pm

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:16:19pm

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

I hate to bust your bubble but wingnuts were making this same joke about President Obama for 8 years.

I first heard it about W. Bush.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:18:10pm

re: #82 makeitstop

I first heard it about W. Bush.

Pretty sure they were telling it about Andy Jackson too.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:18:26pm

re: #80 Citizen K

He needs to declare war on drug pushers, i.e. manufacturers, distributors, and sale people.

He could do a little research here wvgazettemail.com or here latimes.com if he’s interested.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:19:15pm

re: #84 Skip Intro

He needs to declare war on drug pushers, i.e. manufacturers, distributors, and sale people.

He could do a little research here wvgazettemail.com or here latimes.com if he’s interested.

And the same companies were sued 10 years ago for doing the exact same shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:21:03pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

Republicans: Making it easier to kill someone than jerk off in peace.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:21:43pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:24:31pm
CNN

At least 60 people have been hurt in an explosion at a fireworks market near Mexico City, local media report.

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wrenchwench  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:24:39pm

This is so ‘New Mexico’.

That event, which was held in the department’s headquarters at the Runnels Building

Unfortunately named headquarters for them that day…I’ve met a Runnels. Distinguished family name now graces housing projects and so forth.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:25:38pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:27:08pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:28:47pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:29:59pm

Time to start work on the Trump Memorial in Emolument Valley.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:30:47pm

re: #92 gocart mozart

Remind me again, who’s going to prosecute him? Anyway, can’t he just pardon himself?

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:31:26pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:31:41pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

Remind me again, who’s going to prosecute him? Anyway, can’t he just pardon himself?

and remember who gets to be President if they did go ahead and impeach him…

we are so fucked.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:32:26pm

re: #92 gocart mozart

The man with the Himmler Haicut.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:32:43pm
In western Virginia, far from the limelight, United States Attorney John L. Brownlee found himself on the telephone last year with a political and legal superstar, Rudolph W. Giuliani.

For years, Mr. Brownlee and his small team had been building a case that the maker of the painkiller OxyContin had misled the public when it claimed the drug was less prone to abuse than competing narcotics. The drug was believed to be a factor in hundreds of deaths involving its abuse.

Mr. Giuliani, celebrated for his stewardship of New York City after 9/11, soon told the prosecutors they were wrong.

In 2002, the drug maker, Purdue Pharma of Stamford, Conn., hired Mr. Giuliani and his consulting firm, Giuliani Partners, to help stem the controversy about OxyContin. Among Mr. Giuliani’s missions was the job of convincing public officials that they could trust Purdue because they could trust him.

So it was no small success when, after the call, Mr. Brownlee did what many people might have done when confronted with such celebrity: He went out and bought a copy of Mr. Giuliani’s book, “Leadership.”

“I wanted to be prepared for my meetings with him,” Mr. Brownlee said in a recent interview.

Over the past few weeks, Mr. Giuliani’s consulting business has received increasing scrutiny, at times forcing him to defend his business as he campaigns for the Republican presidential nomination.

nytimes.com

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:41:17pm

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:43:42pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

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and Manchin’s wife held an regulatory office in WV that was behind requiring schools to purchase epipens.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:44:09pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:44:59pm

This is what “America’s Mayor” defends.

Rural and poor, Mingo County has the fourth-highest prescription opioid death rate of any county in the United States.

The trail also weaves through Wyoming County, where shipments of OxyContin have doubled, and the county’s overdose death rate leads the nation. One mom-and-pop pharmacy in Oceana received 600 times as many oxycodone pills as the Rite Aid drugstore just eight blocks away.

In six years, drug wholesalers showered the state with 780 million hydrocodone and oxycodone pills, while 1,728 West Virginians fatally overdosed on those two painkillers, a Sunday Gazette-Mail investigation found.

- See more at: wvgazettemail.com

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:45:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:47:08pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart

CNN

At least 60 people have been hurt in an explosion at a fireworks market near Mexico City, local media report.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:47:14pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

“I don’t mind killing people…so long as I can make some money doing it.”

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freetoken  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:50:02pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

good grief…

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Belafon  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:50:22pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

Remind me again, who’s going to prosecute him? Anyway, can’t he just pardon himself?

No, he cant pardon himself.

Here’s the deal about prosecuting him: we go after the congress people to prosecute him. To do that, we’re going to need to organize. Get with your local democratic groups. They are already organized, and have practice at dealing with our reps. Plan with them, when to call, and when to show up at town halls and when the rep is in the neighborhood. They can plan everyone’s questions about what to do about Trump.

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electrotek  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:50:27pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

Surely we should expect tweets of condolences by Trump in light of this tragedy anytime soon.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:51:52pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:52:38pm

re: #105 Eclectic Cyborg

“I don’t mind killing people…so long as I can make some money doing it.”

Purdue Pharma CEOspeak: “We are catalyzing a new future for the company.”

Mark Timney
President & CEO

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:54:21pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:54:41pm

Senate foreign policy twitter debate

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:56:05pm
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calochortus  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:57:22pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

Senate foreign policy twitter debate

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Obama (maybe together with Putin) make Assad give up his chemical weapons after he crossed that ‘red line?’

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 3:57:54pm

Donald Trump is President of all the Russias States.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:00:35pm

re: #115 calochortus

Yes, a Republican must be disingenuous at least every 5 minutes or they banish him from the party.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:01:09pm
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darthstar  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:01:49pm

Okay, so when did this happen and why?

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Belafon  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:12:10pm

re: #120 gocart mozart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:12:57pm
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whitebeach  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:14:27pm

re: #120 gocart mozart

No need for adjectives on the signs. But cartoon needs moar armbandz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:14:53pm

vote wasn’t even close (and apparently the church people forgot to go to the polls)

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:17:58pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good to see people get out to vote for the really important things.

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TedStriker  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:20:34pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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At least until Cheeto Jesus and Greg Stillson Jr. purge the professional bureaucrats and experts from the CBO (and elsewhere in the government).

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:21:24pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

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When I first saw that initial cover image for the YouTube of the Mexican fireworks disaster I thought it looked unreal, like a CGI movie scene…or even a super-real computerized image/illustration.

Now that the facts are out, it was truly unreal. So many deaths.

Reminds me of a 1995 or 6 Ohio fireworks store going up after a guy (intellectual disability) lit some fireworks which caught fire and then all the fireworks went off and the store burnt down. I think 9 people died in that.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:25:05pm
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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:30:50pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

When I first saw that initial cover image for the YouTube of the Mexican fireworks disaster I thought it looked unreal, like a CGI movie scene…or even a super-real computerized image/illustration.

Now that the facts are out, it was truly unreal. So many deaths.

Reminds me of a 1995 or 6 Ohio fireworks store going up after a guy (intellectual disability) lit some fireworks which caught fire and then all the fireworks went off and the store burnt down. I think 9 people died in that.

I have never seen a county beat down worse than the one on a guy who lit some bottle rockets next to a fireworks stand. The owners of that place were not messing around.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:32:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:39:13pm

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:42:25pm

re: #119 darthstar

Okay, so when did this happen and why?

i have died ✔ @ChrisCaesar
(ME FUCKING LOSING IT IN FOUR YEARS): I think Glenn Beck should run for the Democratic ticket and I bet he’d win

Libertarian/Moonbat/Green Response: He’d be better than Clinton!!!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:42:53pm

re: #72 electrotek

The question is, how would Japan fall into this if they have successful populist movements that can emulate similar success?

I saw a Japan Times article last week about a kindergarten in the Osaka area that is having its students bow to an imperial portrait and is teaching the Imperial Rescript on Education from 1890. I don’t worry about the IRonE. They won’t understand it. But I do wonder what the fuck happened to Japan’s teachers? The teachers union was one of the strongest anti-imperial groups in Japan through the 1990s. I’ll have to look into it.

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retired cynic  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:43:32pm

RudePundit has another interesting thing to try to stem the tide. Sounds impossible, but…

rudepundit.blogspot.com

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:43:53pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

Senate foreign policy twitter debate

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“OBAMA NEEDS TO SET A RED LINE THAT WILL MEAN WAR IF SYRIA CROSSES IT!”

“Well, if Syria uses chemical weapons, that will force a recalculation.”

“THERE IT IS, THE RED LINE! NOW HE NEEDS TO ENFORCE IT!”

“I’m sending a bill asking for authorization of military force against Syria’s chemical stockpiles, but will take action if I don’t get it.”

“WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, SOME KIND OF DICTATOR?! THE PEOPLE DON’T WANT WAR! NO AUMF! AND WE’LL CONSIDER IMPEACHMENT IF YOU GO AHEAD WITH THE STRIKES WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION!”

“Alright, well Russia’s agreed to get Syria to give up their stockpile and stop using chemical weapons against civilians.”

“LOOK AT HOW WEAK YOU’VE MADE US LOOK BY NOT GOING TO WAR WITH SYRIA! YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST BOMBED SYRIA LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD!!!”

FFS

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:50:47pm

re: #60 gocart mozart

Looks more like something out of the Cthulhu Mythos. Something along the lines of the Elder Race when they inhabited terrestrial life forms.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:50:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 4:57:22pm

closer vote here, but still turnout is pathetic:

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:01:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:01:45pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:02:34pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

closer vote here, but still turnout is pathetic:

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I was recently asked if there are jobs you are glad you didn’t get. I was a finalist at Murray State. Phew. Wiping my brow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:02:52pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Trumplov’s Dogs?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:04:01pm

OK, “The Christmas Invasion” on BBC America…
Need my fix on X-mas themed entertainment.
Watched Die Hard & Die Hard 2 in the past week

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:04:31pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:07:09pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

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Glenn Beck apologized, but not for that lie in particular (Soros).

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:07:12pm

Anyone know where one would sign up for some of that Soros money?

Asking for a friend.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:07:32pm

re: #143 FormerDirtDart

OK, “The Christmas Invasion” on BBC America…
Need my fix on X-mas themed entertainment.
Watched Die Hard & Die Hard 2 in the past week

My fiancée and I have been watching one Christmas movie a night. Jingle All the Way held up surprisingly well over the years. Seeing Phil Hartman was bittersweet.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:07:57pm

re: #146 ObserverArt

Anyone know where one would sign up for some of that Soros money?

Asking for a friend.

Are you ready for a bit of the ultra-violence? //

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:11:06pm

re: #148 Barefoot Grin

Are you ready for a bit of the ultra-violence? //

I have the liberal droogs ready to go. Just need some of that cash.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:12:15pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:14:35pm

re: #149 ObserverArt

I have the liberal droogs ready to go. Just need some of that cash.

god, I’m cracking up. Soros alert at Starbucks: “liberal droogs, finish your lattes and prepare to fight!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:14:36pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Who would have EVER guessed Teen Vogue would be the voice of reason??

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:14:37pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Teen Vogue is somehow one of the most sober participants in journalism right now.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:16:14pm

re: #139 gocart mozart

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:17:46pm

re: #151 Barefoot Grin

god, I’m cracking up. Soros alert at Starbucks: “liberal droogs, finish your lattes and prepare to fight!”

We hang at the Korova Koffee House. They have these cool black coffee dispensers.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:18:05pm

re: #153 Ziggy_TARDIS

Teen Vogue is somehow one of the most sober participants in journalism right now.

They saw their opening and took it. Almost every established outlet has folded, so they’ve filled the void. Heads-up play on their part.

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ipsos  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:20:38pm

re: #156 Arkansawyer

They saw their opening and took it. Almost every established outlet has folded, so they’ve filled the void. Heads-up play on their part.

Plus, it will look so ridiculous when Trump goes after freakin’ Teen Vogue.

Not that he won’t try.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:20:58pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Who would have EVER guessed Teen Vogue would be the voice of reason??

Their editor & writers said “Fuck this shit, we gotta magazine and we’re gonna do some actual journalisming!”

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Belafon  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:21:13pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

They should do some articles on what these girls can do with this information.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:21:45pm

Whoa, incoming. I gotta Mark Ruffalo retweet.

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:22:29pm

re: #156 Arkansawyer

They saw their opening and took it. Almost every established outlet has folded, so they’ve filled the void. Heads-up play on their part.

If Teen Voque reaches a younger group and gets them aware of politics it can only be a good thing. And if they have a great explanation for why Trump is bad…all the better in so many ways.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:24:59pm

re: #157 ipsos

Plus, it will look so ridiculous when Trump goes after freakin’ Teen Vogue.

Not that he won’t try.

Exactly. They have little to lose and a lot to gain. If/when he comes after them, then they only get more limelight. I’d be trying to be a fly buzzing around his head all day if I was in their position.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:31:21pm

re: #161 ObserverArt

If Teen Voque reaches a younger group and gets them aware of politics it can only be a good thing. And if they have a great explanation for why Trump is bad…all the better in so many ways.

If people can vote at 18, then they should be welcomed into the realm of political discussion by the age of 16. We don’t prepare people for honest, critical debate at that age, and some never see it through their time at a university.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:36:07pm

FECKIN IDJITS

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Dave In Austin  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:36:40pm
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calochortus  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:39:17pm

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

FECKIN IDJITS

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I don’t suppose these folks would care to spend their free time studying their own faith (assuming they have one*) rather than annoying other people?

*Anti-theists usually go after all religions not just Muslims. Atheists don’t usually harass others.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:40:04pm

re: #3 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, that is now forbidden! We are in Christian America, one Nation under God!!!

One Nation under a P*ssy Grabber, more like it.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:40:21pm

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

FECKIN IDJITS

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Quite a few exterminate quotes in there.

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calochortus  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:44:09pm

NBC News is actually doing a story on pay-for-access activities with Trump’s offspring. I wonder if it will go anywhere?

In other news, our mailman has apparently been abducted by aliens. Normally he comes down the street, makes a u-turn at the end, delivers mail to the next door neighbor and on up this side of the street. He went down the street half an hour ago-and disappeared.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:44:33pm

re: #163 gocart mozart

They even got the tiny hands right. /

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:47:19pm

re: #170 calochortus

In other news, our mailman has apparently been abducted by aliens. Normally he comes down the street, makes a u-turn at the end, delivers mail to the next door neighbor and on up this side of the street. He went down the street half an hour ago-and disappeared.

The X Files Theme song

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:49:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:50:04pm
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calochortus  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:53:15pm

Hey, the aliens returned our mailman! Or they’ve taken over his route. Whatever.

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calochortus  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:53:51pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Haven’t the courts frowned on defunding PP?

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prairiefire  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:54:51pm

re: #173 gocart mozart

Trump looks like he is in Russia in the pick, it has an Eastern European flavor to the, ahem, decor.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:55:35pm

re: #128 gocart mozart

Does anyone know where to get those?

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Dave In Austin  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:56:36pm

re: #176 calochortus

Haven’t the courts frowned on defunding PP?

It’s a yearly pilgrimage of Texas tax dollars and lawyers to feed the beast. Don’t fuck with or bad mouth our traditions.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:56:41pm

re: #175 calochortus

Hey, the aliens returned our mailman! Or they’ve taken over his route. Whatever.

I think our mailman is a vampire. We don’t see him until 8 PM.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:56:49pm

Entertainment is supposed to be Toby Keith and Alabama.

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BeachDem  Dec 20, 2016 • 5:57:05pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuckers. Hateful, miserable fuckers.

Guess I should double my PP end of year donation—it won’t make up for these assholes, but I’ll do whatever I can.

I truly hate these selfish, mean, horrible people.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:00:25pm
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calochortus  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:00:32pm

re: #182 BeachDem

Fuckers. Hateful, miserable fuckers.

Guess I should double my PP end of year donation—it won’t make up for these assholes, but I’ll do whatever I can.

I truly hate these selfish, mean, horrible people.

Yeah, we’re upping our contribution to PP. I’m not sure how much we’re giving as Mr. C. throws them some extra money every so often in addition to the annual amount. (Actually making the contributions is more or less Mr. C’s job, so he tends to be the one who gets the begging emails. I’m totally on board with anything extra he wants to give.)

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calochortus  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:01:58pm

Dinner time. Back later.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:02:46pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:04:35pm
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BeachDem  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:08:42pm

re: #184 calochortus

Yeah, we’re upping our contribution to PP. I’m not sure how much we’re giving as Mr. C. throws them some extra money every so often in addition to the annual amount. (Actually making the contributions is more or less Mr. C’s job, so he tends to be the one who gets the begging emails. I’m totally on board with anything extra he wants to give.)

I have several that are “through the year” causes. I had a pretty good year this year, and since I no longer have to give to any political campaigns throw my money down the toilet this year, decided to give a little extra at year end.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:09:10pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:09:39pm

I just got followed by Siri

Susan Bennett, Voice-over Artist and Singer. Most of you know me as the voice of Siri.

Susan Bennett @SiriouslySusan

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:12:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:15:25pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:16:33pm

re: #187 Stanley Sea

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Ayep, no matter how bad a candidate’s numbers may suffer in the last weeks and days of an election, they usually enjoy a boost in support once the Election is over because of the “rally around the flag” effect. Trump may be the first president who started a first term with favorability less than 50% since Ike in ‘53. It’s gonna be a long 4 years of “the polls are still biased against me!”

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:18:06pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

Republicans never give up, and in the end they win more than they lose.

Thought Civil Rights and abortion access were settled issues? The GOP never did, and soon they’ll be gone.

Yep. I see a full on attack on voting rights and marriage equality in the near future. And Democrats will put up a feeble fight as Republicans run amok.

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bratwurst  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:18:22pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

I like how he thinks his using “there” instead of “their” or “they’re” puts him over as a black man.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:18:39pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:18:50pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

He’s not “racists”, he has white friends!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:19:20pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

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8 followers, half are as new as him, a couple of eggs, one proud gab eejit, and somebody from Slovakia.

Yep, he sounds legit…

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:20:06pm

This is gonna be my new thing, just copy/paste the link to this Murdoch owned news article to every Trump troll.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:20:56pm

Nothing matters

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:21:00pm
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bratwurst  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:22:02pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

He doesn’t know how to use apostrophes either…he MUST be black. /

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:23:30pm

re: #201 Stanley Sea

Nothing matters

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Opening day? What is this, fucking baseball season?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:24:04pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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Stanley Sea  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:24:43pm

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Stanley Sea  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:25:55pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

Opening day? What is this, fucking baseball season?

Our new order day.

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:26:02pm

If wingnuts are pissed now about guys popped on bullshit drug charges being pardoned now, imagine the anger they’re gonna feel when Trump whips out that pen and starts pardoning his Wall St. buddies for crimes that actually hurt people.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:27:57pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:28:58pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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“Chicago”

Go figure that would be mentioned by a Black Republican!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:31:59pm

President-elect Donald Trump’s national security adviser, Michael Flynn, met with the leader of a far-right Austrian political party that has close ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Austrian leader said.

The Freedom Party leader, Heinz-Christian Strache, wrote on his Facebook page Monday that he met with Flynn “and a few other high-ranking US politicians” a few weeks ago at Trump Tower.

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scottslemmons  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:32:12pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

Opening day? What is this, fucking baseball season?

More like hunting season.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:32:26pm

Flint South

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:32:33pm

re: #9 Tyrion

Joe My God and Alicublog are also great websites for informed political discussions.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:34:24pm
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whitebeach  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:34:26pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

A quick google on this asshole’s avatar reveals that it’s just a piece of military clipart, not even a photo. No insignia of any kind on the supposed camo either.

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Interesting Times  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:35:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:37:02pm

re: #216 whitebeach

A quick google on this asshole’s avatar reveals that it’s just a piece of military clipart, not even a photo. No insignia of any kind on the supposed camo either.

It just screams phony.

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:37:42pm

re: #217 Interesting Times

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:40:02pm

good grief

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:40:49pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

I agree. But I rather say Oy Vey.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:41:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:42:28pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

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I liked that he’s insulted by being called “fact” as a response to being called “fake”.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:43:54pm

He’s ALWAYS been hateful & ignorant.

Re-upping awfulness I guess helps. Delegitimize his ass to kingdom come.

Still very hard to re-read the awful.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:45:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:45:45pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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He knows how to rile them up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:47:41pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

To be fair, many Southern blacks do say y’all.

But this guy is definitely full of shit.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:48:16pm
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retired cynic  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:49:21pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Yes. Yes, it is.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:50:36pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good for the left!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:53:23pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

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Sad thing, my Dad is probably saying uh huh.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:53:56pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Because the “white establishment” doesn’t want to change the way America is run at all. AT ALL.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:55:46pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Funny that O’Really doesn’t think of Secretary Clinton as part of this mythical “White Establishment”. Only straight, White Republicans are in that group.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 6:56:16pm

re: #233 Patricia Kayden

Funny that O’Really doesn’t think of Secretary Clinton as part of this mythical “White Establishment”. Only straight, White Male Republicans are in that group.

FTFY

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2016 • 7:01:08pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coulter, Palin, Bachman and Conway will be shocked at your suggestion that they’re not part of the club, as will Peter Thiel.

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retired cynic  Dec 20, 2016 • 7:02:05pm

re: #235 Patricia Kayden

Coulter, Palin, Bachman and Conway will be shocked at your suggestion that they’re not part of the club, as will Peter Thiel.

Oh, but they aren’t! They just get to nibble around the edges.

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whitebeach  Dec 20, 2016 • 7:02:18pm

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

Flint South

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St. Joseph is a little speck of a town (pop. circa 1,100) in Tensas Parish, one of the crappiest parts of Louisiana. It has had serious water problems since at least 2012, back at the start of the great Bobby Jindal’s second term. Of course he did nothing about it. At least John Bel Edwards is providing free bottled water for all residents until the problem can be fixed.

When people call Louisiana “Costa Rica del Norte,” my guess is that people in the actual Costa Rica get royally pissed off.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2016 • 7:02:21pm

re: #235 Patricia Kayden

Well you got to have a few tokens for “diversity”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2016 • 7:02:23pm

heh

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wheat-dogg  Dec 20, 2016 • 7:05:48pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

South Carolina Lawmakers Propose Porn Block On New Computers

huffingtonpost.com

You can have access to porn, but first you’ll have to register your computer with the SC government. Guns, like always, require no registration.

The Chinese government proposed something like that a few years ago, it was called Green Dam. After massive protests and mockery by citizens and PC manufacturers alike, the government abandoned the idea.

Let that sink in. A government notorious for Internet censorship *backed away* from installing censorship software on computers.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 20, 2016 • 7:22:40pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

vote wasn’t even close (and apparently the church people forgot to go to the polls)

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West Point is hard by the Fort Knox Military Res, for you non-Kentuckians.


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