Quote of the Day: Trump’s Wacky Doc Doesn’t Really Care if He Dies

“If something happens to him, then it happens to him”
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Donald Trump and his supporters (with help from the media) turned Hillary Clinton’s health into a huge campaign talking point, even though she had fully disclosed all her health issues with a complete doctor’s evaluation — unlike Donald Trump.

Now here’s Trump’s crackpot doctor Harold Bornstein popping up again with an interview in STAT, saying Obamacare has to be destroyed and oh yes, who really cares if Donald Trump dies in office?

“If something happens to him, then it happens to him,” Bornstein said. “It’s like all the rest of us, no? That’s why we have a vice president and a speaker of the House and a whole line of people. They can just keep dying.”

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307 comments
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Kragar  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:47:08am

Maybe all the tests really were positive…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:48:13am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:48:13am

Everybody around Trump is a raving nutcase.

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austin_blue  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:48:30am

The man must have a tremendous bed-side manner.

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S'latch  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:49:22am

At least this news is positive. I need one hopeful story like this each day for as long as trump is wrecking my country.

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:50:08am

Republicans say they’re not scared to take on “radical Islamic terror” but scared of Breitbart online trolls and Trump supporters?

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Kragar  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:50:25am
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iossarian  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:51:01am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In the land of the congenitally stupid, the halfwit troll Newt Gingrich is a “big thinker”.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:51:03am

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unproven innocence  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:52:00am

I suspect doc just wants to be paid moar. Under the table.

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austin_blue  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:52:06am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Newt Gingrich on @NPR this morning, suggesting that President Trump could issue unlawful orders to military/intel, then pardon. Good Lord.

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Pre-justification for the “Good Nazi” defense?

Nice one, Newt. Way to use that big ol’ brain of yours. What a tosser.

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Eigth Immortal  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:52:24am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, um, no. No, the President cannot do that.

As for Dr. Spaceman here… I’ll tell repeat what I tweeted to Charles earlier. I work in a hospital. I am surrounded by doctors, and interact with them constantly. Doctors do not talk like this guy. They don’t.

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KerFuFFler  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:52:53am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Newt Gingrich on @NPR this morning, suggesting that President Trump could issue unlawful orders to military/intel, then pardon. Good Lord.”

I kinda wish some public spirited IRS agent would disclose Trump’s tax records and then be pardoned by Obama.

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wrenchwench  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:53:05am

re: #5 S’latch

At least this news is positive. I need one hopeful story like this each day for as long as trump is wrecking my country.

‘Positive’ until you remember that Pence is the VP. Probably healthier than Trump.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:53:18am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gingrich now suggesting that Trump run his presidency like a Tom Clancy novel.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:53:19am

re: #11 austin_blue

Newt Gingrich on @NPR this morning, suggesting that President Trump could issue unlawful orders to military/intel, then pardon. Good Lord.

Pre-justification for the “Good Nazi” defense?

Nice one, Newt. Way to use that big ol’ brain of yours. What a tosser.

That won’t play well at The Hague.

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:53:26am

re: #10 unproven innocence

I suspect doc just wants to be paid moar. Under the table.

He’s probably saying this now because his check from Trump for signing the letter Trump wrote didn’t clear.

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Kragar  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:53:27am
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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:54:46am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There’s nothing to trust with any of these nuts Trump surrounded himself with, and his supporters never cared one iota for anything.

The same people who claim Clinton is a liar and corrupt don’t bat an eye when Trump lies or is exposed as a corrupt con man. They expose, deflect, or just flat out ignore it.

And everyone will suffer for it - especially those blue collar types who thought Trump would help them the most.

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S'latch  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:54:48am

re: #14 wrenchwench

Keith Olbermann talked me into this kind of thinking. He made the argument that even Mike Pence would be better. I don’t disagree.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:55:32am

re: #7 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:56:16am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gingrich showing again he’s a stupid person’s idea of what an intellectual sounds like.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:56:45am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is basically what Hitler did before the invasion of Poland.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:56:53am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:57:14am

re: #18 Kragar

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Rule by bullying. The Trump way.

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:57:16am

I’m glad VW turned down this clown’s attempt to return a stripped VW

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S'latch  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:58:03am

Mike Pence must really feel like he’s in the catbird seat at this point. He is a scumbag, but he’s probably very subjectively pleased by everything going on around him.

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Citizen K  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:58:47am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

From “It’s not illegal if the president does it” to “It’s not illegal if the president orders it and pre-pardons you”. Not even pretending to care about rule of law, ethics, or anything.

The more terrifying thing is the thought that he might be able to get away with that because enough GOPers simply just don’t give a fuck long as they win.

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Kragar  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:59:01am

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:59:40am

getting a real weird problem here connecting to lgf. The tab on top keep alternating between “quote of the day” and connecting every half second or so.

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 11:59:51am

re: #27 S’latch

Mike Pence must really feel like he’s in the catbird seat at this point. He is a scumbag, but he’s probably very subjectively pleased by everything going on around him.

I suspect that he and other leading Republicans have had serious backroom talks with plans in place to make Trump gone and him in the White House in short order.

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Kragar  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:00:54pm
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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:01:03pm

re: #26 electrotek

The only requirement I remember reading was that it had to be operable, not totaled.

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Citizen K  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:01:55pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:04:38pm

So much, so many stupids ==>

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:05:42pm

re: #34 Citizen K

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Then let’s make another law forcing those businesses to put signs on their doors that clearly states their intent to discriminate so we can be fully informed to take our business elsewhere. Free market, right?

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:06:01pm

re: #33 Emptor scriptor Remorse

The only requirement I remember reading was that it had to be drive-able, not totaled.

I remember that too.

But still, stripped? Just because VW showed a complete lack of ethics in their quest to save a few hundred Euros per vehicle, it doesn’t mean that the owners should resort to petty activities like this just so they can acquire Internet fame (which has already backfired for him).

Besides, since he’s a car salesman, and given the amount of time spent on stripping it, wouldn’t that time be better spent chasing sales instead?

It’s not like he will get much from the parts he sells anyways, since the only parts from the MK6 chassis in demand are those from a GTI or Golf R. No one cares about TDI or 2.5 seats, for starters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:06:11pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

So much, so many stupids ==>

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Oh the irony. And last i saw fuckwit, California is part of this country just as much as your bumfuck place of residency.

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austin_blue  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:06:19pm

re: #31 allegro

I suspect that he and other leading Republicans have had serious backroom talks with plans in place to make Trump gone and him in the White House in short order.

As long as they just talk about it, okay. But if they try to do anything about it, they will be committing political suicide.

To get rid of him, they will have to do it the old fashioned way. Articles of Impeachment from the House, trial in the Senate, with Roberts presiding.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:06:48pm

re: #36 allegro

Then let’s make another law forcing those businesses to put signs on their doors that clearly states their intent to discriminate so we can be fully informed to take our business elsewhere. Free market, right?

Do all your shopping in drag.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:07:16pm

Honestly I am fucking sick of businesses wanting the government to protect their discrimination bullshit. This is what the Civil Rights movement was literally about and Trump and the Republicans want to do it all over again because a bunch of uptight right wing assholes can’t accept LGBT people.

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:07:54pm

re: #40 Resistance Is Not Futile

Do all your shopping in drag.

I already do since my standard wardrobe is t-shirts, jeans, and tennies.

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stpaulbear  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:08:03pm

re: #33 Emptor scriptor Remorse

The only requirement I remember reading was that it had to be drive-able, not totaled.

It can’t possibly be legally street drivable in that stripped-down condition.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:08:04pm

I know many have said, “Summon the meteors!” but maybe…..just maybe, it’ll turn out to be that sweet, sweet supervolcano of death known as Campi Flegrei that brings us all blessed oblivion.

Today, the Campi Flegrei caldera is increasingly restless. For half a century, scientists have measured “bradyseism” events — slow movements of the ground — that are indicative of molten rock slowly filling the mountain’s magma chamber. Significant uplift in the past decade prompted Italian authorities to raise the supervolcano’s alert level from green (quiet) to yellow (scientific attention) in 2012.

“These areas can give rise to the only eruptions that can have global catastrophic effects comparable to major meteorite impacts,” Giuseppe De Natale, head of a drilling project to monitor the caldera, told Reuters after that change was made in 2012.

washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:08:18pm

re: #40 Resistance Is Not Futile

Do all your shopping in drag.

I almost at times feel like pretending to be transgendered and using the men’s room to show these businesses how stupid their policies are. They don’t know someone’s birth gender by looking at them and anyone who thinks you can tell is a damn fool.

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:08:42pm

re: #39 austin_blue

As long as they just talk about it, okay. But if they try to do anything about it, they will be committing political suicide.

To get rid of him, they will have to do it the old fashioned way. Articles of Impeachment from the House, trial in the Senate, with Roberts presiding.

I imagine that plan is on the table. Trump will be impeachable on day one due to his unconstitutional conflicts of interest.

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:08:44pm

re: #33 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Also, it is based off of the following caveat: Clean trade value as of prior to September 19th, when the Dieselgate scandal broke.

Since a stripped vehicle doesn’t fall under “clean trade value”, VW is well within their rights not to accept that moron’s car.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:09:00pm

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Timothy Watson  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:10:24pm

re: #43 stpaulbear

It can’t possibly be legallystreet drivable in that stripped-down condition.

Seinfeld S03E13 The Subway - “Parking Tickets”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:10:31pm

meanwhile in NC shenanigans:

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Mike Lamb  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:11:17pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

So much, so many stupids ==>

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I’ve been thinking about this…what is more likely to cause a disruption in someone’s life: legislating based on the dictates of middle america or the coasts? I’d submit that someone in Nebraska or Mississippi wouldn’t see any difference in their day to day lives based on a legislative mandate the tracked, for the most part, the population centers on the coasts. Operating from a legislative mandate based on middle America/the South is going to create a far more disruptive force for the coasts.

We’re obviously going to find some type of answer to this question in the next 4 years…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:11:53pm

I almost feel like if I had any business acumen at all having a business and if I saw someone that I discovered to be Evangelical Christian going “Sorry my beliefs forbid me from selling to evangelicals, you can’t shop here.” That’s pretty much what they’re saying to LGBT people. They don’t have to agree that being LGBT is normal but if you’re going to own a business in the public sphere, you don’t have a right to discriminate against people based on something that is irrelevant to their status as a consumer. This is what the right’s doing now that they know they lost the gay marriage battle.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:12:00pm

re: #34 Citizen K

Corporations are people with feelings too. /sarc not sarc courtesy of Citizens United

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Mike Lamb  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:12:50pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Honestly I am fucking sick of businesses wanting the government to protect their discrimination bullshit. This is what the Civil Rights movement was literally about and Trump and the Republicans want to do it all over again because a bunch of uptight right wing assholes can’t accept LGBT people.

Also—when did businesses develop a religious identity? How does a company have a religious conscience?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:13:05pm

Right wing nutcases literally feel that every transgendered person is merely a man in a skirt or a woman with a beard.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:13:26pm

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

I forgot to add, here’s a 10-minute documentary on Campi Flegrei, in Italian with English subtitles. Enjoy.

CAMPI FLEGREI

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:14:53pm

I reloaded firefox and the problem loading lGF has not stopped. The tab up top keeps reloading every half second. I have no idea what is wrong.

Anybody?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:14:55pm

re: #54 Mike Lamb

Also—when did businesses develop a religious identity? How does a company have a religious conscience?

Yeah that too. You’re a baker who happens to be a Christian for fuck sake. You deem homosexuality sinful, fine that’s your right to attend a church that believes that nonsense but it has nothing to do with you being able to deny someone service. Really for all their crying about how Christians are discriminated against in modern America, the right wants to give Evangelicals special status, the very same thing they accuse LGBT people of wanting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:15:02pm
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calochortus  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:16:05pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Yeah that too. You’re a baker who happens to be a Christian for fuck sake. You deem homosexuality sinful, fine that’s your right to attend a church that believes that nonsense but it has nothing to do with you being able to deny someone service. Really for all their crying about how Christians are discriminated against in modern America, the right wants to give Evangelicals special status, the very same thing they accuse LGBT people of wanting.

Oh come now, surely you remember the part of the bible where Jesus only associates with the righteous?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:18:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:20:38pm

regarding that crazy racist lady at the mall in Louisville:

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:20:38pm

Problem seems confined to firefox.

Anybody have ideas?

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:21:09pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

Presidents always get too much credit/blame for the economy but this is ridiculous; the image is almost propaganda-stye

Almost?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:21:15pm

re: #63 Scottishdragon

Problem seems confined to firefox.

Anybody have ideas?

nope. I’m using Firefox with no problems.

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Citizen K  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:21:31pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Corporations are people with feelings too. /sarc not sarc courtesy of Citizens United

Corporations are more people than people.
Land and acreage are more voters than voters.
Money is more speech than speech is.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:22:14pm

Does a business have a right to deny an interracial couple service? After all, the Bible was used to justify being called not only sinful but unlawful. Does a business have a right to tell women who shop with men who aren’t their husbands or fathers that they can’t be served. After all, some interpretations of Islam have that interpretation. The fact of the matter is many of these so called Christian business owners would never deny a service such as a wedding cake or flowers to a couple where one of the involved was on a second marriage. Hell one of the Indiana pizza places made famous in Pence’s idiotic liberty law was a couple who were on their second marriages. The now infamous Kim Davis had children out of wedlock with her lover. It’s clear to anyone that this isn’t about religious liberty, it’s about wanting the law to coddle one’s anti LGBT bigotry and you know what, I can’t stop you from attending your anti gay church but if you own a busienss in the public sphere, you don’t get to make up excuses to deny people service.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:22:35pm

re: #37 electrotek

I am happy with VW and would buy another. I am surprised that they didn’t even try to throw me a bone and get me to buy another. I get that they are trying to be honest and all that, but if they offered me another $5k to buy another VW I would. I can’t believe they are letting me walk away with all that cash in my pocket.

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Kragar  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:23:00pm

re: #63 Scottishdragon

There is a way to reset firefox, but its kind of the nuclear option

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:23:31pm

re: #68 Emptor scriptor Remorse

I don’t think they’re allowed to entice TDI owners with more incentives, to be honest.

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Citizen K  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:24:14pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Honestly I am fucking sick of businesses wanting the government to protect their discrimination bullshit. This is what the Civil Rights movement was literally about and Trump and the Republicans want to do it all over again because a bunch of uptight right wing assholes can’t accept LGBT people.

The most galling thing is when people say that ‘oh, we don’t need gov’t interference to protect rights, society can handle it itself’. Motherfucker, that’s exactly what this fucking law is, government interference that says a business owner’s right to call you a filthy abomination is more important than your right to a service because of your status.

But nope, it’s all those filthy LGBTQ folks doin’ all the discriminatin’ against all them god fearin’ Christians, yup.

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Kragar  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:25:18pm
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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:26:42pm

re: #69 Kragar

There is a way to reset firefox, but its kind of the nuclear option

I just restarted in safe mode and the problem continues. I think nuclear is where we may go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:27:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:27:44pm

re: #71 Citizen K

The most galling thing is when people say that ‘oh, we don’t need gov’t interference to protect rights, society can handle it itself’. Motherfucker, that’s exactly what this fucking law is, government interference that says a business owner’s right to call you a filthy abomination is more important than your right to a service because of your status.

But nope, it’s all those filthy LGBTQ folks doin’ all the discriminatin’ against all them god fearin’ Christians, yup.

The other fucked up thing is in NC, it was a local ordinance that allowed people to use the bathroom of their choosing but McCrory and the NC legislature thought they should have the say. NPR talked about in regards to other legislation too but it’s more evidence of how Republicans love to whine about how the feds get involved on state matters but Republican controlled state legislatures have no problem at all telling states what they should and shouldn’t do.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:27:57pm

Guess who will be the first to complain when someone refuses to serve them for being a Trump supporter/Republican/Nazi/white/Christian/etc.?

Yup. They really don’t think it would effect them too.

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BeachDem  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:28:16pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Newt Gingrich, who left office in disgrace and has been out of office for 17 fucking years—why does anyone give a flying fuck what he has to say?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:28:23pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course, why not. Because Sessions wasn’t bad enough, Senator Roy Moore.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:28:52pm

re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus

Guess who will be the first to complain when someone refuses to serve them for being a Trump supporter/Republican/Nazi/white/Christian/etc.?

Yup. They really don’t think it would effect them too.

They really think the law should protect them only because they’re white and Christian.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:29:41pm

re: #70 electrotek

I do not remember reading that anywhere, that is too bad. My car has already been replaced, so I guess I just wanted to be jerked off with my pants on a little bit.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:30:16pm

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

I know many have said, “Summon the meteors!” but maybe…..just maybe, it’ll turn out to be that sweet, sweet supervolcano of death known as Campi Flegrei that brings us all blessed oblivion.

washingtonpost.com

Ha, I’m listening to a documentary on Pompeii in the background.

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stpaulbear  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:31:49pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Honestly I am fucking sick of businesses wanting the government to protect their discrimination bullshit. This is what the Civil Rights movement was literally about and Trump and the Republicans want to do it all over again because a bunch of uptight right wing assholes can’t accept LGBT people.

The thing that scares me about this type of law is that it’s written to override state and local laws. The new congress is going to start writing this kind of clause into every bill that they write loosening regulations against industry and banking. They’re going to take every state down to the bottom with them, and the courts aren’t going to be of much use in a couple of years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:31:54pm
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Citizen K  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:32:39pm

re: #82 stpaulbear

The thing that scares me about this type of law is that it’s written to override state and local laws. The new congress is going to start writing this kind of clause into every bill that they write loosening regulations against industry and banking. They’re going to take every state down to the bottom with them, and the courts aren’t going to be of much use in a couple of years.

You know, States’ Rights!

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Kragar  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:36:11pm
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sagehen  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:37:32pm

re: #12 Eigth Immortal

Yeah, um, no. No, the President cannot do that.

As for Dr. Spaceman here… I’ll tell repeat what I tweeted to Charles earlier. I work in a hospital. I am surrounded by doctors, and interact with them constantly. Doctors do not talk like this guy. They don’t.

Doctors have access to all the best drugs….

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BeachDem  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:37:38pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Honestly I am fucking sick of businesses wanting the government to protect their discrimination bullshit. This is what the Civil Rights movement was literally about and Trump and the Republicans want to do it all over again because a bunch of uptight right wing assholes can’t accept LGBT people.

Today—LGBTQ, tomorrow—Muslims, Friday—Jim Crow is back in full bloom. I hate these assholes with the heat of a thousand suns.

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retired cynic  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:38:12pm

Possibly hopeful editorial in the NYT today, about using some coming overreach against DT and Republican minions:

nytimes.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:39:14pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dear Fox News, the photo on the left is from Mexico, not Berlin. If you don’t believe me, peep the “No Fumar” aka “No Smoking” sign.

That is not fake news, that is somebody telling some unpaid intern to slap something up on the screen while they are out grabbing lunch…

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stpaulbear  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:39:43pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know Moore is horrible, but could he effectively be any worse than Sessions?

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:39:59pm

re: #90 stpaulbear

Yes.

Challenge. Accepted.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:44:07pm

OK…just had to do a bunch of fancy reconfig stuff on the LGF address and it seems to have stopped.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:44:28pm

re: #90 stpaulbear

I know Moore is horrible, but could he effectively be any worse than Sessions?

Yes. He will.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:46:57pm

re: #93 Scottishdragon

Yes. He will.

Other people were also interviewed, so there is a good chance some other bigot will be appointed to replace Sessions.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:47:28pm
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makeitstop  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:47:37pm

Teen Vogue is pretty awesome - and so are these teenagers.

Late Monday evening it was announced that Donald Trump had officially become the 45th president of the United States of America after receiving the necessary 270 electoral college votes. But just because the electoral college has spoken doesn’t mean that those who object to Trump will now fall silent.

On the contrary, two intrepid high school students have taken matters into their own hands by launching a protest campaign that’s entitled “Send Trump P**sy!” the Daily Dot reports. Started by Jules and Gabe, an LGBT couple, this campaign is aimed at letting President Trump know that his rhetoric, policies, and treatment of women and minority groups are indefensible. How do they duo plan to send such a message? By shipping vulva-shaped lollipops directly to Trump HQ, of course. “With STP we’re on a mission to show Trump and America that we’re unsatisfied, and our desire for an inclusive un-misogynistic America is unwavering, by sending him p \ **sy-shaped lollipops!” the site declares.

Those who take issue with the next Commander-in-chief can let him know by ordering one of these pops for $3.99, and with 50% of the proceeds going to Planned Parenthood it’s a sweet act of protest you can feel good about. If you’re concerned about anonymity, don’t worry. The site’s FAQ claims that all the lollipops are sent anonymously.

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sagehen  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:49:59pm

re: #48 Amory Blaine

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Sherlock: Thats what people DO!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:50:41pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:55:55pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bigly Brother?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2016 • 12:57:55pm

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

Are we ever going to hear the fucking end of those emails????

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BeachDem  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:00:57pm

Charles P. Pierce, bang on about the media (and Chris, the weasel, Cilizza in particular:

They wanted to be saved by HRC, but they wanted the cheap high of the shiny objects, too, and now many of the institutions for whom they work are having a nervous breakdown.

Call me Kreskin, but I’m guessing that, about one second after Trump’s hand comes off the Bible, Cillizza will be somewhere on your television, pounding away about giving the new president a chance to use his “mandate.” Everything else will be forgotten, because Hillary Rodham Clinton didn’t save Chris Cillizza from seeing what’s really become of his country now that it can elect Donald Trump to be its president.

esquire.com

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Timothy Watson  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:06:24pm

Trump declares victory and the swamp is no more:
Newt Gingrich says Trump is done with ‘drain the swamp’

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Interesting Times  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:07:07pm

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

Both in print and on TV, our defense of Clinton was often tepid and full of qualifications. I noticed the same thing after the Benghazi attack. Conservatives went on the attack literally within a few hours. Some liberals fought back, but an awful lot either said nothing or else mounted half-hearted defenses. Why? Were they worried about looking like hacks even though the plain truth was all they needed to defend? Were they worried that some future revelation might make them look stupid? I’m not sure. But I don’t think anyone will argue when I say that this kind of attitude doesn’t work well in contemporary America.

Yes indeed. Remember the tweet I posted earlier about how trump thinks he can get away with anything if he simply acts like he can? The entire GOP pretty much does the same thing, and it’s worked wonders for them. Granted, there’s always IOKIYAR and the blithering false-equivalence ninnies of the trumped-up media…but I have to wonder what would happen if more Dems tried the double-down full-throated defense-turned-offense tactic for a change.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:08:05pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least we’ve been spared Hillary and her corrupt emails and Foundation that does stuff.

///

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wrenchwench  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:09:05pm

re: #42 allegro

I already do since my standard wardrobe is t-shirts, jeans, and tennies.

Me too. In drag, everyday. Not the NICE drag either. The HOMELESS drag.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:10:57pm

re: #102 Timothy Watson

Trump declares victory and the swamp is no more:
Newt Gingrich says Trump is done with ‘drain the swamp’

He never was especially since he associated with swamp scum such as yourself and Rudy, Newt.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:11:00pm

Trump is a bully. You know how you beat a bully? You gang up on them, you outnumber them so the game flips and you become intimidating to THEM.

A resistance against Trump can only work if it is relentless and en masse.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:12:43pm

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump is a bully. You know how you beat a bully? You gang up on them, you outnumber them so the game flips and you become intimidating to THEM.

A resistance against Trump can only work if it is relentless and en masse.

The resistance will be criminalized if he starts to take it seriously.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:14:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:14:40pm

re: #109 lawhawk

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Jesus what an idiot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:16:40pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:16:56pm

re: #108 Scottishdragon

The resistance will be criminalized if he starts to take it seriously.

Almost all of my heroes, from Joe Hill to Dorothy Day, have done time.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:17:48pm

Get a load of this asshole…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:21:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:21:22pm

re: #113 Scottishdragon

Get a load of this asshole…

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Yeah because gay teenagers have that “choice.” What a fucking asshole. Pence should just mind his own fucking business. Typical hypocritical right wing conservative bigot.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:22:22pm

Another billionaire whose economic theories are always about what will inure the most benefit to him.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:22:54pm

re: #112 Decatur Deb

Almost all of my heroes, from Joe Hill to Dorothy Day, have done time.

With our militarized police, jail will not be an option for a lot of folks. Watch for “furtive movements” etc to be the excuse when BLM activists and anti Trump protesters start getting gunned down by law enforcement.

I have been on cop message boards many, many times. (of course, that is a self selected sample and cannot be said to represent all LE as a whole)

That being said…
The police posters on these sites really want to see liberals get beaten…and shot if circumstances can be arranged.

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calochortus  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:23:59pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Yeah because gay teenagers have that “choice.” What a fucking asshole. Pence should just mind his own fucking business. Typical hypocritical right wing conservative bigot.

But children are their parents’ absolute property until they are 18 when they magically become totally independent and responsible for everything in their lives, regardless of upbringing or circumstances. So there’s that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:24:16pm

re: #117 Scottishdragon

With our militarized police, jail will not be an option for a lot of folks. Watch for “furtive movements” etc to be the excuse when BLM activists and anti Trump protesters start getting gunned down by law enforcement.

I have been on cop message boards many, many times. (of course, that is a self selected sample and cannot be said to represent all LE as a whole)

That being said…
The police posters on these sites really want to see liberals get beaten…and shot if circumstances can be arranged.

I’m telling you. The talk you have shown us from those police boards really puts a bad taste in my mouth about LEO in this country.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:24:27pm

re: #116 lawhawk

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Another billionaire whose economic theories are always about what will inure the most benefit to him.

Putting COL Sanders in charge of the henhouse.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:24:28pm

re: #118 calochortus

But children are their parents’ absolute property until they are 18 when they magically become totally independent and responsible for everything in their lives, regardless of upbringing or circumstances. So there’s that.

Course.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:26:13pm

re: #117 Scottishdragon

With our militarized police, jail will not be an option for a lot of folks. Watch for “furtive movements” etc to be the excuse when BLM activists and anti Trump protesters start getting gunned down by law enforcement.

I have been on cop message boards many, many times. (of course, that is a self selected sample and cannot be said to represent all LE as a whole)

That being said…
The police posters on these sites really want to see liberals get beaten…and shot if circumstances can be arranged.

My chief of police named his kid “Nathan Bedford”.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:26:40pm

Arrest made in church burning arson attack where someone vandalized the church scrawling vote trump on the side.

The person arrested was apparently a member of the congregation according to AP. ABC has more background.

Andrew McClinton of Leland, Mississippi, was charged with first degree arson of a place of worship, said Warren Strain, spokesman for the Mississippi Department of Public Safety. McClinton is African-American.

McClinton was arrested in Greenville, where Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church was burned and vandalized Nov. 1, a week before the presidential election.

It was not immediately clear whether McClinton is represented by an attorney.

An investigation continues, but a state official said authorities don’t believe politics was the reason for the fire.

“We do not believe it was politically motivated. There may have been some efforts to make it appear politically motivated,” Mississippi Insurance Commissioner Mike Chaney, who is also the state fire marshal, told The Associated Press.

Greenville is a Mississippi River port city of about 32,100 people, and about 78 percent of its residents are African-American. While it’s not unusual for people of different racial backgrounds to work and eat lunch together, local residents say the congregations at most churches remain clearly identifiable by race.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:28:11pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

My chief of police named his kid “Nathan Bedford”.

What the holy fuck?

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:28:58pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:29:01pm

re: #124 Scottishdragon

What the holy fuck?

He says he’s a “history buff”.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:29:33pm

re: #123 lawhawk

Arrest made in church burning arson attack where someone vandalized the church scrawling vote trump on the side.

The person arrested was apparently a member of the congregation according to AP. ABC has more background.

Rod Dreher is laughing and will use this today to show that every single hate crime accusation is a false flag.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:29:41pm

re: #126 Decatur Deb

He says he’s a “history buff”.

I’m one too but I’m not naming my son Oliver Cromwell.

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:29:48pm
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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:30:11pm

re: #126 Decatur Deb

He says he’s a “history buff”.

Oh really? So he can name his next kid “Ft Pillow Massacre” and have done with it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:30:58pm

re: #130 Scottishdragon

Oh really? So he can name his next kid “Ft Pillow Massacre” and have done with it.

You can’t judge people from those days. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:31:00pm
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Sir John Barron  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:31:28pm

re: #127 Scottishdragon

Rod Dreher is laughing and will use this today to show that every single hate crime accusation is a false flag.

Dreher laughs?

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:32:00pm

re: #133 Sir John Barron

Dreher laughs?

Smirks, I guess.

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wrenchwench  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:32:25pm

re: #112 Decatur Deb

Almost all of my heroes, from Joe Hill to Dorothy Day, have done time.

My customer who got a tube today did time last week. Didn’t finish his community service and forgot about it. Cost him 6 days.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:32:35pm

The operative phrase is “Trump Followers”, I believe.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:33:27pm

re: #136 Scottishdragon

Look at how many Trump followers seem to think its funny or deserved that someone used my disability as a weapon. Whats wrong with them?

— Kurt Eichenwald

How much time do you have?

/

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:33:30pm

re: #136 Scottishdragon

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The operative phrase is “Trump Followers”, I believe.

But hey don’t call them deplorable.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:34:02pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

You can’t judge people from those days. //

Always wondered about my classmate Adolph. We were born in 1944.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:34:32pm

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Always wondered about my classmate Adolph. We were born in 1944.

I knew an Osama but he went by Sam.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:38:28pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:39:00pm

re: #108 Scottishdragon

The resistance will be criminalized if he starts to take it seriously.

or he will turn his bullies loose on it and they will be able to intimidate with impunity, knowing that the bully-in-charge has their backs…

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wrenchwench  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:45:17pm

Perfect metaphor of something.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:47:24pm

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

Are we ever going to hear the fucking end of those emails????

Nope.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:47:26pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:47:52pm

Never, ever, fuck with a chicken. They’re viscous beasts.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:52:10pm

re: #146 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Never, ever, fuck with a chicken. They’re viscous beasts.

Chickens are more closely related to velociraptors than raptors are to a Trex.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 1:53:13pm
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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:02:03pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So when is DT gonna have his metro coif sheared into a manly man cut or Nazi shave?

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:02:14pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

So much, so many stupids ==>

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I don’t think we’ll see a constitutional amendment to do away with the Electoral College, and I don’t think the Interstate Compact regarding the popular vote will gain any traction either. But I’m wondering if the system might be better if States awarded electors proportionally (with say at 10% minimum). That avoids the problem of gerrymandering that we’d see if more states did like Maine and Nebraska and awarded them by Congressional district. It also gives Democrats in Idaho or Mississippi and Republicans in California or New York a reason to vote. I’d have to play around with the numbers over the last few cycles to see how much of a difference it would make.

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Mattand  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:12:12pm

Jesus, the United States is poised to become a banana republic with a nuclear arsenal capable of snuffing out life on the whole planet.

Years ago, I remember someone comparing us to the Romans and saying “At some point, an empire has to end.”

Never thought I’d be around to see it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:13:30pm

re: #113 Scottishdragon

Get a load of this asshole…

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Sean Hannity has a choice to be waterboarded but he chose not to.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:14:37pm

re: #153 Mattand

Jesus, the United States is poised to become a banana republic with a nuclear arsenal capable of snuffing out life on the whole planet.

Years ago, I remember someone comparing us to the Romans and saying “At some point, an empire has to end.”

Never thought I’d be around to see it.

A professor who specializes in this stuff predicted we end (as an effective empire) by 2025. He revised it to 2020 well before Trump was elected.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:14:45pm
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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:15:53pm

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Sean Hannity has a choice to be waterboarded but he chose not to.

Mancow (a friend of Hannity) was waterboarded and agreed it was torture.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:16:33pm

re: #124 Scottishdragon

What the holy fuck?

I know. I actually laughed, and the said WTF?

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:20:18pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So much for monitoring volcanoes, avian flu, better space technology etc.

Hey, if you don’t want your airline to lose both engines in a cloud of volcanic ash, the free market will take care of that and Delta Airlines will have geologists on staff at every active volcano!

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Decatur Deb  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:23:01pm

re: #158 Barefoot Grin

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:25:28pm

re: #153 Mattand

Jesus, the United States is poised to become a banana republic with a nuclear arsenal capable of snuffing out life on the whole planet.

Years ago, I remember someone comparing us to the Romans and saying “At some point, an empire has to end.”

Never thought I’d be around to see it.

I knew that we had reached our apex on Sep 10, 2001, but really had some hope that we would hold on a while and not start the precipitous slide down within two decades…

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:28:09pm

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I knew that we had reached our apex on Sep 10, 2001, but really had some hope that we would hold on a while and not start the precipitous slide down within two decades…

2003 was the watershed year where we made irrevocable changes.

It just did not become evident how seriously bad those changes were until much, much later.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:29:16pm

re: #160 Decatur Deb

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:30:28pm

re: #162 Scottishdragon

2003 was the watershed year where we made irrevocable changes.

It just did not become evident how seriously bad those changes were until much, much later.

I have a personal theory that a lot of this started with the decline in the level of public school and university education that set in starting in the 80’s…we are now really paying the price for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:32:58pm

heh

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Decatur Deb  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:34:21pm

re: #163 Barefoot Grin

Shit is hard for some to believe, but that never went away. Posted the quote from the court filing just to enter a record of credibility.

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Interesting Times  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:35:03pm

re: #152 KGxvi

But I’m wondering if the system might be better if States awarded electors proportionally (with say at 10% minimum). That avoids the problem of gerrymandering that we’d see if more states did like Maine and Nebraska and awarded them by Congressional district. It also gives Democrats in Idaho or Mississippi and Republicans in California or New York a reason to vote. I’d have to play around with the numbers over the last few cycles to see how much of a difference it would make.

You’re in luck, because someone went ahead and did the work for you :)

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:37:43pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

Perfect metaphor of something.

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The chicken hates bad play acting…wants the kid to up his game.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:38:10pm

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a personal theory that a lot of this started with the decline in the level of public school and university education that set in starting in the 80’s…we are now really paying the price for it.

Also the beginning of sustained attacks on public institutions and the media by the GOP.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:38:37pm

re: #146 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Never, ever, fuck with a chicken. They’re viscous beasts.

And then there are geese.

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:38:44pm

re: #167 Interesting Times

You’re in luck, because someone went ahead and did the work for you :)

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I just did some back of the envelope calculations and came up with Trump winning 271-266 (with McMullin picking up a vote in Utah). I suppose it depends on how you break votes - for example, if there’s 15 electoral votes and some gets 45% of the vote (which would be 6.75) do they get 6 or 7 electoral votes? Or in states with 3 votes if one side gets 28% do they get 1 or 0 votes?

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Dave In Austin  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:38:49pm

re: #151 allegro

So when is DT gonna have his metro coif sheared into a manly man cut or Nazi shave?

That’s the Himmler cut.

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wrenchwench  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:41:57pm

I just did something I’ll bet none of you have done. I sold a potato ricer.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:46:48pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is this South Carolina Cro-magnon man in with Trump thinking America can take on China, Korea, Japan and others (like Germany and France) in business. You aren’t going to do it without government funding since their countries use it to a huge advantage.

They aren’t going to do anything about anything are they? /

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:47:40pm

re: #171 KGxvi

re: #167 Interesting Times

For what it’s worth, looks like I came up with different numbers in California (34-21 Clinton), Nebraska (4-1 Trump), New York (17-12 Clinton), Rhode Island (3-1 Clinton), Texas (22-16 Trump), Utah (3-1-1 Trump), Vermont (3-0 Clinton), and Wyoming (3-0 Trump).

Of course, if we were playing by these rules, the campaigns would have been run very differently, I think. Or at least, I would hope. It does have, at least based on this race, the advantage of better reflecting the will of the people. I suspect 1992, based on the numbers that Perot got, would probably have resulted in the election being thrown to Congress.

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calochortus  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:48:09pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

I just did something I’ll bet none of you have done. I sold a potato ricer.

Was it bicycle-powered?

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Interesting Times  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:50:59pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:51:08pm

re: #176 calochortus

Was it bicycle-powered?

Nope. There’s an idea whose time has come.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:53:31pm

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a personal theory that a lot of this started with the decline in the level of public school and university education that set in starting in the 80’s…we are now really paying the price for it.

BINGO!

I’ve been saying the ending of classic liberal (well-rounded, empathetic, arts, civics, philosophy) public education was an issue since the 80s under Reagan and the rise in Fundamentalism.

You can see it everywhere. Jay Leno’s “Jay Walking” and Jimmy Kimmel’s Takes on the Street should have given people a clue. I never laughed at those bits, too sad and real.

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:58:28pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Decatur Deb  Dec 21, 2016 • 2:59:29pm

re: #178 wrenchwench

Nope. There’s an idea whose time has come.

The British produced at least one Land Rover with a meat processor driven by the front power take-off. Been looking for the reference—things do fall out of the Intertubes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:10:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:10:39pm

Hump Day, time to take a break and relax a bit

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wrenchwench  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:12:38pm

#BestSpots just keeps on going.

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:12:52pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

On Jan 20th, they can suspend Trump’s account because he will have two that he will use for nefarious purposes.

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:13:32pm
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calochortus  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:15:07pm

re: #186 gocart mozart

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Brain bleach. Stat!

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:16:24pm

Most Republicans Think Donald Trump Has Changed The GOP For The Better

I’m only posting this so I can post this response.

Most Republicans believe Barak Obama was born in Kenya and is a practicing Muslim. Most Republicans also believe that Planned Parenthood traffics in fetal baby parts. They believe that the concept of global climate change is a hoax perpetrated by leftwing loonies and/or Communists. Or both. Most Republicans believe there are some 50 million Muslims living in America and that there are Muslim neighborhoods in Britain where Sharia law governs and the Bobbies are afraid to go. They believe that poor Hispanic immigrants are criminals who vote en-mass for Democratic candidates and are responsible for millions of Americans being unable to find work. Most Republicans reject science and instead believe that the entire Universe as we know it snapped on like a lightbulb some 6500 years ago. They believe that most white people who are murdered are killed by young black thugs and that America police never shoot down unarmed blacks. All of these things most Republicans believe. None of them true.

Most Republicans are so hung up on other people’s sexuality they can’t see straight. They say their Party represents small and unobtrusive government but insist on controlling how woman deal with a most intimate and personal decision. Their knee-jerk obsession with homosexuality has them so tightly wound around the axel that they to deny fellow citizens certain rights under the law - rights that they recognize straight couples have. In Texas, Republicans teach schoolchildren that the slave trade between Africa and the Americas was a “migration” of people coming to work on Southern plantations. No mention of involuntary servitude whatsoever.

My point. What “most Republicans” believe about der Drumpfenführer is most likely bullshit. Most everything else they’ve paraded around for the last decade or two is, and there’s no reason to expect them to change now

-Andrew J Bernhard

huffingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:19:10pm

re: #187 calochortus

Brain bleach. Stat!

What…Spencer’s a big racist dick?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:19:37pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:24:19pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:27:07pm

re: #186 gocart mozart

Other entries in “Talking to Nazis about sexuality” include:

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Bubblehead II  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:28:14pm

Night Lizards, See you in the A.M.

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William Lewis  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:28:19pm

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I knew that we had reached our apex on Sep 10, 2001, but really had some hope that we would hold on a while and not start the precipitous slide down within two decades…

I’ve always felt we hit our apex on Nov 21, 1963 and that it’s been a slow decent ever since. This is just … well…

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I’ll never look into your eyes…again

Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need…of some…stranger’s hand
In a…desperate land

Lost in a Roman…wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain, yeah

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Mike Lamb  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:33:01pm

re: #180 Belafon

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Good grief…it’s freaking self-evident that, at the very least, the internet would not have been created in the same time frame but for gov’t money/research.

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calochortus  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:34:20pm

re: #196 Mike Lamb

Good grief…it’s freaking self-evident that, at the very least, the internet would not have been created in the same time frame but for gov’t money/research.

You’d think so, wouldn’t you? I’m afraid belief in “what would have happened” overrides actual history.

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:35:20pm

A Christmas message from a stone cold killer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:36:04pm

re: #196 Mike Lamb

re: #197 calochortus

For some reason these people believe that the Internet = the World Wide Web.

poor thangs…

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Mike Lamb  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:36:13pm

re: #197 calochortus

You’d think so, wouldn’t you? I’m afraid belief in “what would have happened” overrides actual history.

It’s just so mind numbingly stupid.

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:44:36pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is how I feel about most of the arguments I’ve seen:

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:46:06pm

I’ve been thinking about who the worst person Trump could possibly appoint to the Supreme Court is, and I think I have the winner: Alabama’s Roy Moore. Other than being a billionaire, he checks all the boxes.

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calochortus  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:46:33pm

Welp, I can’t rest on my laurels here for too long. Must do some stuff.

BBL

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:46:40pm

re: #196 Mike Lamb

Good grief…it’s freaking self-evident that, at the very least, the internet would not have been created in the same time frame but for gov’t money/research.

Which companies would get together today and build a network where others could compete with them?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:46:52pm

Kentucky’s Secretary of State:

baby steps for acceptance and tolerance for all, but still nice to see.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:48:06pm

re: #197 calochortus

You’d think so, wouldn’t you? I’m afraid belief in “what would have happened” overrides actual history.

Right, and if Lincoln had let the Confederacy go, why in just a few years it would have ended slavery on its own, AND would have rejoined the union!

I’ve actually been told this by the same sort of person who tells you slavery wasn’t racist because some blacks owned slaves. This was before the White Right made up and spread the story about Irish slaves.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:48:32pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

No identities yet?

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:51:05pm

Oh for Christ’s sake, why the fuck is Huffington Post giving airtime to these types of Muslims here?

Raheel Raza’s It’s a Global Jihad, Stupid.

People like Ms. Raza make it extremely difficult for liberal-minded Muslims who do NOT want to be associated with Islamophobes.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:51:29pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:52:09pm

From a tweet to a friend

Us weird humans. Jerry Brown signed off on a ban of a semi auto rifle that needs a special tool to change magazines. It was thought to be an acceptable way to have that gun for sale, the civilian AR-15. Gun stores sold 250,000 of them since the bill was signed. Even worse-many many first time gun buyers. Tell a man he can’t have something and monkey will do anything for banned banana. Needless to say I did not buy one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:52:09pm

re: #207 Stanley Sea

No identities yet?

They probably do not want the grief.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:57:11pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:57:32pm

re: #207 Stanley Sea

No identities yet?

If I were them, I wouldn’t come forward.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 3:59:15pm

AUTOMATIC BLOCKING FUNCTION TRIGGERED

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:01:07pm

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

AUTOMATIC BLOCKING FUNCTION TRIGGERED

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“Dragon-Warrior” AAAAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA…

*gasp*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAaaaaaaa!!!

*gasp, cough*

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:01:16pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

They probably do not want the grief.

Or the violent threats to them and their families. I don’t blame them. No apology is enough.

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:01:44pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:02:52pm

Huh. I guess they should have taken him literally, not seriously.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:04:00pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:08:43pm

re: #217 electrotek

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It would be a trifecta if she was also a Roma.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:13:45pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:17:29pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:18:21pm

Must read

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thedopefishlives  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:18:27pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:19:26pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

The saddest thing is that this is the only way these people will learn. It’s all the other people they will hurt that makes me sick (literally these days).

They had their choice between the party that will hurt them, and one that will struggle to do them right, and they chose the liars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:25:23pm

I dunno…pretty far I haven’t seen a single attractive person that his picked.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:27:20pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bear in mind: This is Drumpf. His reality is incredibly warped.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:27:21pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

Look at the guy choosing them. Standards are sub-par. At best.

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BeachDem  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:28:35pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I dunno…pretty far I haven’t seen a single attractive person that his picked.

But imagine what he sees when he looks in a mirror? Eye of the beholder and all.

I am always gobsmacked when I realize that the yam is only 2 years older than I am. He may have more money, but I have a much more talented hair stylist/colorist, and am holding up much better.

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:28:42pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I dunno…pretty far I haven’t seen a single attractive person that his picked.

In fairness “looking the part” doesn’t necessarily mean “attractive.”

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thedopefishlives  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:29:37pm

re: #230 KGxvi

In fairness “looking the part” doesn’t necessarily mean “attractive.”

True, but the original post did say “attractive” in it as well as “looking the part”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:31:03pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I dunno…pretty far I haven’t seen a single attractive person that his picked.

He doesn’t want anyone who is better looking than (he thinks) he is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:31:08pm

re: #231 thedopefishlives

True, but the original post did say “attractive” in it as well as “looking the part”.

I suppose if “attractive” = “lots of money” and “really nasty person with no conscience”, it works.

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:31:36pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I dunno…pretty far I haven’t seen a single attractive person that his picked.

No surprise there. He thinks he’s handsome and looks good.

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BeachDem  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:32:18pm

re: #231 thedopefishlives

True, but the original post did say “attractive” in it as well as “looking the part”.

And said the yam is “aesthetic.” That made me laugh. Maybe whoever said it (I’d guess Hope Hicks—it sounds like something the spokesmodel would say.) Perhaps they meant “pathetic?”

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:33:37pm

re: #235 BeachDem

And said the yam is “aesthetic.” That made me laugh. Maybe whoever said it (I’d guess Hope Hicks—it sounds like something the spokesmodel would say.) Perhaps they meant “pathetic?”

I think it was a polite way of saying he absolutely judges books by their covers.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:33:47pm

re: #236 KGxvi

I think it was a polite way of saying he absolutely judges books by their covers.

My thoughts exactly.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:34:05pm

re: #229 BeachDem

But imagine what he sees when he looks in a mirror? Eye of the beholder and all.

I am always gobsmacked when I realize that the yam is only 2 years older than I am. He may have more money, but I have a much more talented hair stylist/colorist, and am holding up much better.

I swear he does it himself. He is that vain.

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:34:40pm

re: #236 KGxvi

I think it was a polite way of saying he absolutely judges books by their covers.

All he’s got since he can’t read what’s between them being illiterate and all.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:35:34pm

A year ago today:

Facebook Post

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:35:41pm

re: #238 Stanley Sea

I swear he does it himself. He is that vain.

It’s been reported that he does. A master of hairspray and booby pins. Manly man, yanno.

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darthstar  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:35:54pm

Eartha’s not impressed with the awesome Xmas gift I just got in the mail…5lbs of bacon!
(and the funny thing is, I sent them a year’s worth of bacon for Xmas myself)

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allegro  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:36:19pm

re: #241 allegro

It’s been reported that he does. A master of hairspray and booby pins. Manly man, yanno.

LOL typo

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Stanley Sea  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:37:02pm
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Interesting Times  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:38:12pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Well, to be fair, it *is* one of the fugliest mustaches in existence, so…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:38:52pm

re: #243 allegro

LOL typo

it worked for me.
bigly

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:39:25pm

re: #225 Belafon

The saddest thing is that this is the only way these people will learn. It’s all the other people they will hurt that makes me sick (literally these days).

They had their choice between the party that will hurt them, and one that will struggle to do them right, and they chose the liars.

And given the chance, they’ll happily do it again.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:41:24pm

re: #223 Stanley Sea

Damn. Had no idea his Russian friend was killed like that. So fucked up.

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BeachDem  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:47:26pm

re: #236 KGxvi

I think it was a polite way of saying he absolutely judges books by their covers.

Well, we know he doesn’t read, so he really has no other way to judge books.

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:49:58pm

Big up Bjork, so glad to have seen her perform in Houston over the weekend.

Her comments about sexism in the music industry:

Facebook Post

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:50:35pm

re: #248 GlutenFreeJesus

Damn. Had no idea his Russian friend was killed like that. So fucked up.

Nemtsov, I dont’ think they were close but that Boris thought cultivating fame both inside and outside Russia would protect him. It didn’t. Here’s the interview he did with Bourdain over lunch, foreshadowing what Trump plans to do here.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:50:54pm

It was the deep baritone voice the sealed the public’s approval of Lincoln….

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:53:14pm

Oops! Construction crew done screwed up and blew up a pizza shop and damaged area stores and homes here in Columbus. It was far enough away from me to not have heard it…or I had the tunes up too loud. Bad engineering maps??? May the blame begin…

Iframe

NBC 4i - Building destroyed after gas leak, explosion in west Columbus

COLUMBUS (WCMH) — A gas leak and explosion destroyed a Domino’s restaurant in west Columbus and damaged nearby homes and businesses.

Fire crews quickly pulled a second-alarm after a gas leak was reported in the 2800 block of West Broad Street. The fire was contained after about two hours.

Officials on scene say Columbus-based Team Fishel was doing underground boring in the parking lot area by the Domino’s Pizza and struck a gas line. The ovens in the Domino’s ignited the gas. Everyone evacuated the Domino’s building when they smelled the gas.

All patients at the nearby Nationwide Children’s Hospital primary care hospital are safe, according to a representative from the hospital.

“Because of the gas leak initially everything in the area had been evacuated, so at the time of the explosion everyone was away from the building,” said Columbus Fire Battalion Chief Steve Martin. “We’ve got an evacuation distance right now of one block in every direction of the situation. People that are in their homes can shelter in place if they are inside that area, but outside we ask that people stay away.”

At least one person is injured, a person who was running away from the scene and tripped.

Fire crews are evacuating buildings one block in every direction. Broad Street is closed from Hague Ave. to Binns Blvd. currently, and is expected to be closed through rush hour.

Battalion Chief Steve Martin said firefighters were working to protect the buildings in the area as the fire still raged. He said the gas underneath the ground could be seeping into other buildings. The gas was shut off just after 4:30pm.

Columbia Gas and AEP Ohio are on scene. Columbia Gas representative Shana Eiselstein said the crews’ first responsibility is to assess and make sure everything is safe.

“Our focus remains on the safety of the community, our crews and fire officials,” a statement from Columbus Gas of Ohio reads. “Once the area is made safe, the investigation into the cause and circumstances of the incident will begin.”

AEP Ohio reports about 2.400 customers are without power in the area.

More at link…

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:56:25pm

re: #225 Belafon

The saddest thing is that this is the only way these people will learn. It’s all the other people they will hurt that makes me sick (literally these days).

They had their choice between the party that will hurt them, and one that will struggle to do them right, and they chose the liars.

The thing that makes me sick is I didn’t want them to have to learn the lesson. There was no reason to. They can’t seem to see that it’s the people they are voting for that are causing it. That was a failure of our media, and somewhat my failure for thinking that the people would see through the noise.

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darthstar  Dec 21, 2016 • 4:58:47pm

I was in the car this morning on my way to work and I heard someone on MSNBC claiming the stock market was skyrocketing because of Trump and I thought to myself, Man, am I glad I’ll be too busy to be on Twitter today.

On the way home they were talking about the Democrats letting go of their sad excuses and focusing on how to fight the GOP in the coming year, but one person on the panel couldn’t say two words that didn’t have either Comey or Putin in the middle. Eventually, that shit’s going to cost them viewers and those people won’t be invited back.

Still stoked about getting almost 5lbs of bacon in the mail. Combine that with the 10lbs I have in the freezer from my half-pig this year, and I’m in hog heaven!

HOG HEAVEN! GET IT???

Dear god, I’m amazeballs sometimes.

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BeachDem  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:00:46pm

re: #253 ObserverArt

When did Children’s Hospital move to the west side?

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stpaulbear  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:05:56pm

Facebook has a lot of neighbors writing about packages being stolen off their front porches this week. One victim left a shopping bag on the front porch for 10 minutes and not only had it already been stolen, but they’d already started rummaging through it to throw out the stuff they didn’t want.

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William Lewis  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:08:28pm

Anyone here remember “Russian” tea? Nothing to do with Russia but it’s Tang (or other orangish beverage powder), instant tea, cinnamon & clove. Mix & put two to four tablespoons in a cup of hot water for a silly, sweet drink that reminds me of my mother. I got a quart bell jar full gifted to me last night and I’m sipping a cup and back in the winters of my teen years. Not really sure I even _like_ it all that much, yet it’s a comfort nonetheless…

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thedopefishlives  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:08:35pm

re: #257 stpaulbear

Facebook has a lot of neighbors writing about packages being stolen off their front porches this week. One victim left a shopping bag on the front porch for 10 minutes and not only had it already been stolen, but they’d already started rummaging through it to throw out the stuff they didn’t want.

This is why I prefer for someone to be home when I’m expecting a delivery. Then I can at least text my wife and say, “Hey, can you be on the lookout for X? Bring it inside when it arrives.” Just a force of habit.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:08:37pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:09:35pm

When are Democrats ever going to understand that nothing the GOP says can ever be trusted?

North Carolina Fails To Repeal Anti-LGBTQ Bill

Democrats said Wednesday that they were expecting a clean repeal bill. But instead, Sen. Phil Berger, the GOP leader of the chamber, put forward a measure that would propose a six-month “cooling-off” period during which time localities would be barred from making changes to their ordinances. In other words, HB2 would essentially be in effect for another six months.

huffingtonpost.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:10:54pm
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darthstar  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:11:56pm

re: #259 thedopefishlives

This is why I prefer for someone to be home when I’m expecting a delivery. Then I can at least text my wife and say, “Hey, can you be on the lookout for X? Bring it inside when it arrives.” Just a force of habit.

We get most of our things delivered to our PO Box. Because we’re less than a mile from the post office we don’t get home delivery. Fed ex and UPS are the exceptions but they just leave shit by the door and it’s there when we get home. Not that things can’t be stolen from us. We’re just a few miles from town center so we aren’t exposed to that much foot traffic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:13:38pm

Here is Trump’s Cabinet:

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darthstar  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:14:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:16:07pm

WTF?

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:17:02pm

TCM, right now.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:17:17pm

re: #256 BeachDem

When did Children’s Hospital move to the west side?

Bad journalism. They have neighborhood care centers now all over town and they also act as outpatient services for kids that were in the main hospital.

Have you seen Children’s lately? They have taken over the entire area of Parsons Avenue and Livingston and go all the way south to I-70 and now as far west as Grant Avenue from their original location.

Some images for you…

Nationwide Children’s Hospital - Columbus Ohio - Expansion
Actaul Image of Main Campus - Nationwide Children’s Hospital (Image about 2 years old)
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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:18:22pm

GET THE CHEESE OUT OF YOUR EARS

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:22:41pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:24:48pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

GET THE CHEESE OUT OF YOUR EARS

In my day it was peanut butter.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:25:38pm
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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:25:58pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

GET THE CHEESE OUT OF YOUR EARS

Mmmm…cheese….

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scottslemmons  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:26:09pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

WTF?

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Does she think you’re this Charles Johnson?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:26:41pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

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Oh yeah, well I just saw a sea leopard just nearly pluck a hapless, struggling penguin out of a break in the ice as the other mothers marched on by on the way to the sea. PBS, motherfucker.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:27:37pm

Did a major redesign of the account registration page today. Now has automatic checking of username and email availability, and a graphic password strength meter, and it uses Javascript to check and validate everything before you submit the form.

Also requires new users to check a box indicating they’ve read and agree to the terms of service before continuing. So there won’t be any more trolls, ever. Yay! cough

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lockjawcanbefun  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:28:25pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:30:47pm

re: #258 William Lewis

Anyone here remember “Russian” tea? Nothing to do with Russia but it’s Tang (or other orangish beverage powder), instant tea, cinnamon & clove. Mix & put two to four tablespoons in a cup of hot water for a silly, sweet drink that reminds me of my mother. I got a quart bell jar full gifted to me last night and I’m sipping a cup and back in the winters of my teen years. Not really sure I even _like_ it all that much, yet it’s a comfort nonetheless…

My mom used to make that for us. I liked it a lot back then.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:30:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:37:12pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:37:16pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:41:33pm

re: #275 Barefoot Grin

David Attenborough narrating as small cute things die.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:41:59pm

Putin stooge says what???

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:43:14pm

re: #282 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

David Attenborough narrating as small cute things die.

“Plucked him off the ice as one plucks a cucumber sandwich off a tray.”*

*I like Attenborough, but one does get that feeling.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:44:30pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

Putin stooge says what???

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“I will be handled in my own way, thank you very much! “

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:45:09pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:46:08pm

re: #285 Barefoot Grin

“I will be handled in my own way, thank you very much! “

“leave the Putin stooges alone!!!!”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:48:48pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:49:15pm

re: #284 Barefoot Grin

I suspect that some of what he records over is difficult, even as a professional. But the script is calm about death because it’s a nature show, and that’s part of the point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:51:21pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:52:19pm

re: #289 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

I suspect that some of what he records over is difficult, even as a professional. But the script is calm about death because it’s a nature show, and that’s part of the point.

Good point. Probably I had Werner Herzog in mind when I made that Attenborough attribution.

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Scottishdragon  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:54:51pm

Looks like the HB2 repeal effort died in chaos today here in NC.

Imagine my surprise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:58:21pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 21, 2016 • 5:59:41pm

re: #255 darthstar

I was in the car this morning on my way to work and I heard someone on MSNBC claiming the stock market was skyrocketing because of Trump and I thought to myself, Man, am I glad I’ll be too busy to be on Twitter today.

On the way home they were talking about the Democrats letting go of their sad excuses and focusing on how to fight the GOP in the coming year, but one person on the panel couldn’t say two words that didn’t have either Comey or Putin in the middle. Eventually, that shit’s going to cost them viewers and those people won’t be invited back.

Still stoked about getting almost 5lbs of bacon in the mail. Combine that with the 10lbs I have in the freezer from my half-pig this year, and I’m in hog heaven!

HOG HEAVEN! GET IT???

Dear god, I’m amazeballs sometimes.

Fox News was selling this piece of BS this afternoon. Very nicely done misdirection. Started by pointing out that DJIA was near the 20,000 benchmark and record highs and how the market has gone up 200% since March of 2009. No mention of who was POTUS during this run-up. But then mentioned how four companies (two financial, two oil/energy - color me surprised) have gone up 34-38% since Trump was elected.

So it might have a factual report, but the impression it was trying to pass on was total BS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:00:17pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:00:33pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

OH SNAP!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:00:51pm

re: #258 William Lewis

Anyone here remember “Russian” tea? Nothing to do with Russia but it’s Tang (or other orangish beverage powder), instant tea, cinnamon & clove. Mix & put two to four tablespoons in a cup of hot water for a silly, sweet drink that reminds me of my mother. I got a quart bell jar full gifted to me last night and I’m sipping a cup and back in the winters of my teen years. Not really sure I even _like_ it all that much, yet it’s a comfort nonetheless…

My mother had a “spice tea” mix like that. Took it along on camping trips.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:02:02pm

Friend posts meme with two women chatting:

“Virgin birth I can believe, but three wise men?”
“Ha ha ha!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:02:03pm

This cat has the “who me?” look perfected:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:04:15pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:07:48pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:09:33pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Reading this guy’s timeline, it’s pretty obvious that it is yet another fake account set up by an alt-righter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:12:42pm

re: #302 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Reading this guy’s timeline, it’s pretty obvious that it is yet another fake account set up by an alt-righter.

I got the same aroma from it.

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BeachDem  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:24:15pm

re: #268 ObserverArt

Wow—that Nationwide money really helped, huh?

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sagehen  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:25:55pm

re: #223 Stanley Sea

Must read

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I mean, you would think, Gee, with all these great travel shows on, there are plenty of opportunities to see how other people live. But you know something else travel has taught me: People rise up and kill their neighbors all the time. People they’ve lived with their whole lives, yesterday they were fine, today they’re the enemy. You’ve seen it in Yugoslavia, you’ve seen it in Borneo. Now you’re seeing it here. So, I don’t know.

So what will get us past this?

Changing demographics. Other than that, it’s Bond villain shit. I’m pessimistic to the extreme. I really think people have no idea how bad it already is, and how bad it’s going to get. I read a lot of history. We’ve heard all of this before. I think it’s that bad. It can easily go that way.

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Scout  Dec 21, 2016 • 6:57:11pm

re: #257 stpaulbear

Facebook has a lot of neighbors writing about packages being stolen off their front porches this week. One victim left a shopping bag on the front porch for 10 minutes and not only had it already been stolen, but they’d already started rummaging through it to throw out the stuff they didn’t want.

It’s weird. I live in a megalopolis of around 35 million people, and the only time I bother to lock my door is if I know I’m going to be out of town for more than a few days.

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electrotek  Dec 21, 2016 • 8:23:06pm

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

She’s Tatar, is that still a trifecta?


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