Oops! Newt Gingrich Reveals Trump’s “Drain the Swamp” Con Game, Gets Spanked

“I made a big boo-boo”
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We saw an extraordinarily revealing moment in the Trump Horror today, following yesterday’s statement by Newt Gingrich that he’d been told by Trump’s people to stop using the phrase “Drain the Swamp.”

When this revelation hit the media, somewhere inside the swollen pumpkin head of our new Narcissist in Chief a light went on and he realized that Newt was giving away the con game, telling the world that Trump never really intended to drain any swamps.

Of course, it was already obvious from his appointments and nominations so far; a panoply of Goldman Sachs and Wall Street executives, billionaires, Washington DC lifers and Republican insiders. This swamp is very much un-drained; in fact it’s swampier than ever and smells like hell.

But actually saying it out loud as Newt did, well, that’s a con man’s cardinal sin. Never let the rubes see the game. So sometime after Gingrich blurted out the truth, he received a spanking from the tiny fists of the talking yam, who then followed it up with one of his usual unhinged tweets:

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And this morning, Gingrich sheepishly tweeted a comical retraction, complete with groveling video:

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“A big boo-boo!” Newt Gingrich is 73 years old, folks.

What you’re really seeing in this little mini-drama is just how astoundingly cynical and corrupt Donald Trump is. Even an unreconstructed right wing reptile like Newt Gingrich doesn’t yet understand the rules of the con game he’s part of. But he’s catching on fast.

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allegro  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:25:49am

I swear I saw a clip of Trump himself in one of his masturbatory victory rallies saying that he didn’t like the phrase but it “played well” in the campaign. Then didn’t he say essentially now that he’s won “we don’t care anymore”?

But what am I saying… Trump doesn’t remember from one minute to the next what he’s said.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:27:22am

So I want to know has the Ivanka Jetblue story been debunked yet or is it still virulent?

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Jayleia  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:28:00am

re: #1 allegro

I swear I saw a clip of Trump himself in one of his masturbatory victory rallies saying that he didn’t like the phrase but it “played well” in the campaign. Then didn’t he say essentially now that he’s won “we don’t care anymore”?

But what am I saying… Trump doesn’t remember from one minute to the next what he’s said.

I thought that was the “Lock her up!” chant?

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:29:06am

re: #1 allegro

I swear I saw a clip of Trump himself in one of his masturbatory victory rallies saying that he didn’t like the phrase but it “played well” in the campaign. Then didn’t he say essentially now that he’s won “we don’t care anymore”?

But what am I saying… Trump doesn’t remember from one minute to the next what he’s said.

Liars never can remember what they said from one minute to the next.

Bigger problem: So many Americans are feasting on the lies. It is exactly what they want to hear.

Also, I just posted this in the previous thread. Since it fits this thread I’m going to add it here again.

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Found some backup on what I had heard earlier.

You think Spicer is bad…how about this.

I’m thinking about stocking up on some barf bags. Hey, maybe I can get those in gold with Trump “Making America Sick Again” lettered on them. Think they would sell?

LA Times - Kellyanne Conway will join Trump in the White House

Donald Trump has named his media-savvy campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, to advise him in the White House in the role of counselor, his transition team announced early Thursday morning.

The move comes after Conway sought to put to rest speculation that she would continue to serve as the public face of the Trump team. But the new job is sure to keep her profile high.

Conway will “will work with senior leadership to effectively message and execute the administration’s legislative priorities and actions,” according to a statement from the Trump transition team.

“Kellyanne Conway has been a trusted advisor and strategist who played a crucial role in my victory,” Trump said in the statement. “She is a tireless and tenacious advocate of my agenda and has amazing insights on how to effectively communicate our message.”

The appointment would boost diversity in a Trump inner circle made up mostly of older white men. It also sets up another potentially competing power center on a White House staff that already will have several, including Reince Priebus, the chief of staff; Stephen K. Bannon, the chief strategist; and Stephen Miller, the policy chief.

Conway had previously turned down other proposals for White House jobs, telling reporters late last month that she did not want to spend long hours away from her children.

At that point, Conway said she thought she could best help Trump by forming an outside organization to support his policies. But that role appears to have gone to Brad Parscale, who ran Trump’s online operations during the campaign.

Conway joined Trump’s campaign during the summer when it was beset with infighting and disarray. She is widely credited with helping bring message discipline and professionalism to an operation in desperate need of it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:30:53am

Delta claims Adam Saleh and his friend were removed from Heathrow flight for being disruptive, not for speaking Arabic.

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S'latch  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:31:05am

Trump needs to tell Corey Lewandowski as well. Apparently, Corey Lewandowski didn’t get the same message as Gingrich.

Corey Lewandowski Says ‘Drain The Swamp’ Is No Longer A Priority For Donald Trump

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:31:21am

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

So I want to know has the Ivanka Jetblue story been debunked yet or is it still virulent?

NBC has a story with a statement from Jet Blue.
nbcnews.com

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Mike Lamb  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:31:24am

It doesn’t even matter. He could say he likes swamps, that he has the best, most beautiful swamps, and DC is no different, and they’d ask where to buy Trump branded fan boats, while proclaiming how much they trust him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:31:24am

Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but I paged a story about a Jewish family fleeing their home because Breitbart and Fox News falsely accused them of getting a school production of A Christmas Carol canceled. It has begun.

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:31:25am

Things the Gingrich kerfuffle might be used to divert attention for:

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allegro  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:32:32am

re: #3 Jayleia

I thought that was the “Lock her up!” chant?

It was both I think. I remember thinking that was two of his promises he sneered at his followers for believing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:33:25am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

NBC has a story with a statement from Jet Blue.
nbcnews.com

Basically taking the TMZ story at face value but does say this at the end:

The United States Secret Service referred inquiries to JetBlue but said Ivanka Trump has full Secret Service protection as the daughter of the president-elect.

How did the USSS secure the airport terminal? Makes no sense.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:33:56am

re: #11 allegro

It was both I think. I remember thinking that was two of his promises he sneered at his followers for believing.

He was also surprised that Carrier employees believed his promise that he would save their jobs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:34:09am

re: #1 allegro

I swear I saw a clip of Trump himself in one of his masturbatory victory rallies saying that he didn’t like the phrase but it “played well” in the campaign. Then didn’t he say essentially now that he’s won “we don’t care anymore”?

But what am I saying… Trump doesn’t remember from one minute to the next what he’s said.

this is how a successful businessman closes a deal: you say whatever you think the person needs to hear to get them to sign on the dotted line.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:34:28am

Oh and this too:

The president-elect’s daughter was on a flight to San Francisco, but was ultimately headed to Hawaii, a public relations representative for Ivanka Trump told NBC News.

Flying COACH the whole way? Total bullshit.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:35:39am

You’d think someone as “smart” as Newt would know that when you put something down the Memory Hole, you don’t announce “okay, we’re sending this slogan down the Memory Hole”. You just pretend it never existed. Sheesh, this is basic Authoritarianism 101 stuff, Newt. Did you even do the assigned reading?

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:36:23am

re: #10 lawhawk

Look, all the people where I live care about is whether he’s going have a dog or cat as First Pet.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:37:23am

re: #17 Skip Intro

Look, all the people where I live care about is whether he’s going have a dog or cat as First Pet.

He’ll have his African-American.//

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:37:47am

re: #17 Skip Intro

Look, all the people where I live care about is whether he’s going have a dog or cat as First Pet.

Chris Christie in a furry suit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:38:49am
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Jayleia  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:38:52am

re: #16 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

He’s a history perfesser, as he’ll tell you, so he knows ALL the history about authoritarianism…he read it from Jonah Goldberg’s indispensable book about…

….sorry, I just had to Obamacare my busted gut there for a minute.

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:40:08am

re: #16 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

You’d think someone as “smart” as Newt would know that when you put something down the Memory Hole, you don’t announce “okay, we’re sending this slogan down the Memory Hole”. You just pretend it never existed. Sheesh, this is basic Authoritarianism 101 stuff, Newt. Did you even do the assigned reading?

The problem is Trump, who changes his mind minute by minute. He’ll get pissed at some country for making fun of him or denying him building a golf course, order a nuclear strike, then deny responsibility by claiming people shouldn’t take him so literally.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:40:31am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is a great opportunity for Icahn to eliminate or rewrite regulations on his companies. How can we compete with China when we expect our air to be breathable, and they don’t?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:42:00am

jeebus, Sarah Kendzior pointed this out on twitter HOURS ago.

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Trump says US must expand nuclear capability; hours after Putin calls for enhancing Russia’s nuclear program

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:42:16am

So last week the SF Chronicle’s conservative columnist retires. So who do they replace her with today?

Michelle Fucking Malkin, who spends here entire column attacking Michelle Obama for being alive.

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gocart mozart  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:43:14am
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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:45:35am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:46:12am

re: #25 Skip Intro

So last week the SF Chronicle’s conservative columnist retires. So who do they replace her with today?

Michelle Fucking Malkin, who spends here entire column attacking Michelle Obama for being alive.

That is so bad. It’s like NPR giving Jonah Goldberg a spot, which they have done.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:46:14am
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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:50:01am

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, Sarah Kendzior pointed this out on twitter HOURS ago.

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That may be the most reckless and ignorant thing Trump has said yet. His talk about not defending allies has already given other nations incentive to create or revitalize their own nuclear forces. Now he throws gasoline on the fire by stupidly suggesting we scrap the various treaties that largely determine the size, make-up, and deployment of our own nuclear forces.

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Jenner7  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:51:20am

New NIN out today.

NINE INCH NAILS - BURNING BRIGHT (FIELD ON FIRE)

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Belafon  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:51:50am

I’m really torn over how I feel about this: m.dailykos.com.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:51:52am

Facebook Post

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Mike Lamb  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:53:05am

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel

That may be the most reckless and ignorant thing Trump has said yet. His talk about not defending allies has already given other nations incentive to create or revitalize their own nuclear forces. Now he throws gasoline on the fire by stupidly suggesting we scrap the various treaties that largely determine the size, make-up, and deployment of our own nuclear forces.

It also sounds a lot like we’ll colluding with Russia in expanding nuclear capabilities. The Cold War isn’t going to be between the US and Russia—it will be US/Russia vs. the World. This shit feels like when a wrestling hero suddenly turns heel. Is Linda McMahon scripting this bullshit?

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Mattand  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:54:26am

re: #9 Big Beautiful Door

Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but I paged a story about a Jewish family fleeing their home because Breitbart and Fox News falsely accused them of getting a school production of A Christmas Carol canceled. It has begun.

God, I just saw that in Philly Inquirer about an hour ago.

Fucking 2016 and we have Jewish families fleeing their homes after being the targets of false rumors.

In America. For fucks’s sake, this monster isn’t even President yet and we seeing this shit.

Swear to God, I am seriously thinking about buying a gun and learning how to shoot for self defense. Never in a million years thought I’d hear myself say that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:54:45am

WINTER IS HERE

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Jayleia  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:55:28am

re: #34 Mike Lamb

It also sounds a lot like we’ll colluding with Russia in expanding nuclear capabilities. The Cold War isn’t going to be between the US and Russia—it will be US/Russia vs. the World. This shit feels like when a wrestling hero suddenly turns heel. Is Linda McMahon scripting this bullshit?

Nah, this feels more like Vince Russo.

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Mattand  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:56:26am

LOL, while I’m at it: in a fresh tussle on Facebook with a fucking False Balancer who’s fee-fees I hurt when I pointed out that Americans who said Trump and Clinton were equally bad choose…poorly.

I may have dropped an eff bomb or 38.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:58:42am

re: #37 Jayleia

Nah, this feels more like Vince Russo.

Jim Cornette may have the best and most spitting hot takes on a Trump presidency. He understands shit booking when he sees it.

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2016 • 11:59:41am

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump thinks that using nukes is okay. He thinks proliferation is a good thing. He doesn’t get that proliferation is tremendously destabilizing, and increases the chances nukes get used - or fall into the wrong hands.

Trump’s grasp of history and reality is seriously flawed.

He has no one who can tell him just how close we came to nuking our own country during the height of the Cold War - including one where we could have nuked Savannah/Charleston being one of the more infamous situations, but there were similar ones over Spain, to say nothing of various issues at nuclear weapons facilities across the country too. And our record of accident pales in comparison to the Soviets/Russians who had some massive accidents and broken arrows of their own - and made sure to hide all of it from their citizens - a situation that continued right up through the Chernobyl accident at a civilian reactor.

Proliferation could make already unstable situations even worse - imagine Saudis and Iranians both with functioning nuclear weapons and regimes that could potentially use it on each other (or worse, giving it to proxies for use) - irradiating large swaths of the Middle East and disrupting energy supplies for billions of people in the process.

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Jayleia  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:02:27pm

re: #39 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Also great takes on Vince Russo too…and Corny just has an incredible way with words, assuming you can keep up with his hyper-caffeinated style.

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:02:58pm

re: #28 wrenchwench

She’s much worse than Goldberg. Next week they’ll probably try out Ann Coulter, then Pam Geller.

Gotta keep that balance after all.

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darthstar  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:04:47pm

Drain the swamp? I think a more appropriate description would be letting the boil fester.

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:06:24pm

President Sanders? Bernie would have beaten Trump

I fucking give up.

latimes.com

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gocart mozart  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:08:16pm

Avoid the shallow MSM, follow hard hitting investigative journalism.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:10:37pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

She’s much worse than Goldberg. Next week they’ll probably try out Ann Coulter, then Pam Geller.

Gotta keep that balance after all.

Agreed. She’s worse than Goldberg. Also, L.A. Times, from what I see of it, is worse than NPR. It correlates.

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Mattand  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:11:02pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

President Sanders? Bernie would have beaten Trump

I fucking give up.

latimes.com

Oh , for fuck’s sake…

My partner had her college roommate visit the other day. She’s from Indiana, and is one of about 238 Democrats in the state.

She started complaining about how it was a horrible idea to run Clinton, based on much she was hated.

I asked straight up: “Do you honestly think your neighbors would have had less hatred towards a New York-born Jewish man who is an avowed socialist?”

She chuckled and said “Probably not.”

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Mattand  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:12:39pm

re: #40 lawhawk

Context:

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Trump thinks that using nukes is okay. He thinks proliferation is a good thing. He doesn’t get that proliferation is tremendously destabilizing, and increases the chances nukes get used - or fall into the wrong hands.

Trump’s grasp of history and reality is seriously flawed.

He has no one who can tell him just how close we came to nuking our own country during the height of the Cold War - including one where we could have nuked Savannah/Charleston being one of the more infamous situations, but there were similar ones over Spain, to say nothing of various issues at nuclear weapons facilities across the country too. And our record of accident pales in comparison to the Soviets/Russians who had some massive accidents and broken arrows of their own - and made sure to hide all of it from their citizens - a situation that continued right up through the Chernobyl accident at a civilian reactor.

Proliferation could make already unstable situations even worse - imagine Saudis and Iranians both with functioning nuclear weapons and regimes that could potentially use it on each other (or worse, giving it to proxies for use) - irradiating large swaths of the Middle East and disrupting energy supplies for billions of people in the process.

When you’re an ignorant orange-skinned hammer, the solution to every problem is a nuclear bomb.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:12:54pm

He’s out of prison and Wired has already cranked out an admiring article about him. But…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:13:01pm

re: #47 Mattand

Of , for fuck’s sake…

My partner had her college roommate visit the other day. She’s from Indiana, and is one of about 238 Democrats in the state.

She started complaining about how it was a horrible idea to run Clinton, based on much she was hated.

I asked straight up: “Do you honestly think your neighbors would have had less hatred towards a New York-born Jewish man who is an avowed socialist?”

She chuckled and said “Probably not.”

Hillary had a lot of baggage. Between her record and her personality, there was a lot about her that made her very vulnerable to every sort of attack.

I wish that the party could’ve come up with someone without as much baggage, but Bernie Sanders was not a viable alternative.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:13:13pm

re: #47 Mattand

Of , for fuck’s sake…

My partner had her college roommate visit the other day. She’s from Indiana, and is one of about 238 Democrats in the state.

She started complaining about how it was a horrible idea to run Clinton, based on much she was hated.

I asked straight up: “Do you honestly think your neighbors would have had less hatred towards a New York-born Jewish man who is an avowed socialist?”

She chuckled and said “Probably not.”

We are already living in a country in which Breitbart and Fox News can trigger a proto-Pogrom with one false “War on Christmas” story.

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Jayleia  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:13:54pm

re: #45 gocart mozart

I’m going to end up subscribing to Teen Vogue. Seriously. For political coverage.

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Mattand  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:15:02pm

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hillary had a lot of baggage. Between her record and her personality, there was a lot about her that made her very vulnerable to every sort of attack.

I wish that the party could’ve come up with someone without as much baggage, but Bernie Sanders was not a viable alternative.

I can’t argue with any of that.

I do, however, need to go find that list that Bob Cessca posted on Facebook about everything HRC was fighting; Bernie Bros; Russian hackers; Wikileaks; the FBI; etc.

She still won by nearly 3 million votes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:15:14pm

re: #52 Jayleia

I’m going to end up subscribing to Teen Vogue. Seriously. For political coverage.

I remember that in Moscow in 1992, the best political coverage was in Molodoi Komsomolets, the former Communist Youth League publication.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:15:18pm

re: #52 Jayleia

I’m going to end up subscribing to Teen Vogue. Seriously. For political coverage.

And I used to get Playboy for the articles

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Jack Burton  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:15:46pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

President Sanders? Bernie would have beaten Trump

I fucking give up.

latimes.com

That blissfully ignores the mountain of negative campaigning that the GOP was holding back on, that would paint Sanders as a pro-Castro, Pro-Soviet communist, which would have done *so* well in Florida and Flyover Country.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:15:48pm

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hillary had a lot of baggage. Between her record and her personality, there was a lot about her that made her very vulnerable to every sort of attack.

I wish that the party could’ve come up with someone without as much baggage, but Bernie Sanders was not a viable alternative.

And keep in mind that even with Russian Intelligence, the FBI and the entire news media lined up against her, Clinton still got nearly 3 million more votes than Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:16:34pm

re: #53 Mattand

I can’t argue with any of that.

I do, however, need to go find that list that Bob Cessca posted on Facebook about everything HRC was fighting; Bernie Bros; Russian hackers; Wikileaks; the FBI; etc.

She still won by nearly 3 million votes.

The Bernie Bros also open up a hatchway to allow some serious weapons-grade ratfucking in the Democratic party. They were too idealistically blindered to see how much they were aiding or enabling it.

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Mattand  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:17:38pm

re: #51 Big Beautiful Door

We are already living in a country in which Breitbart and Fox News can trigger a proto-Pogrom with one false “War on Christmas” story.

Yup. And I posted that one on my Facebook page to make sure everyone sees it to.

I also made sure to point out who was going to suffer these kinds of attacks of the next four years, and who would be running the country.

I hope I do ruin some Xmas moods with this one. People need to know this shit is happening in the United States in Two Thousand-fucking-Sixteen.

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Mattand  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:19:58pm

Ugh, my New Year’s Resolution is to either type slower or proofread more…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:20:23pm

re: #51 Big Beautiful Door

We are already living in a country in which Breitbart and Fox News can trigger a proto-Pogrom with one false “War on Christmas” story.

I heard about that. Fucking assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:21:12pm

re: #43 darthstar

Drain the swamp? I think a more appropriate description would be letting the boil fester.

POP THAT PIMPLE!!!

(sorry, lizards, not sorry…)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:22:33pm

A lot of people were drawn to Trump because they saw him as an independently wealthy businessman who was not beholden to any corrupt special interests.

Surprise: he is his own corrupt special interest.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:23:13pm

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Bernie Bros also open up a hatchway to allow some serious weapons-grade ratfucking in the Democratic party. They were too idealistically blindered to see how much they were aiding or enabling it.

Some of them still are.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:24:01pm

After seeing how John Kerry a man with a war hero record and much distinguished congressional record than Bernie was treated, who the fuck are they to say he would have won? Bernie polled terribly among key elements of the Dem base. But most importantly to me, Clinton would have been s better president than Bernie too. Bernie on his best day doesn’t have the know how that Clinton does on her worst.

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gocart mozart  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:24:48pm

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HappyWarrior  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:25:24pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some of them still are.

Yep, I see it on my Facebook too much. They totally ignore Bernie had a lot of flaws and weak spots that the RNC and FNC would have pounced on and those WWC he fetishizes would have hated him.

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:26:56pm

re: #31 Jenner7

New NIN out today.

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Gonna need more context. That was pretty chaotic. Cool, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:28:04pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Yep, I see it on my Facebook too much. They totally ignore Bernie had a lot of flaws and weak spots that the RNC and FNC would have pounced on and those WWC he fetishizes would have hated him.

My favorite BoB fantasy I’m seeing on twitter is a demand that the DNC and DWS admit that they illegally rigged the primaries in favor of Clinton and that will require a new general election and we’ll get President Bernie instead of DT.

O_o

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:29:05pm

re: #34 Mike Lamb

It also sounds a lot like we’ll colluding with Russia in expanding nuclear capabilities. The Cold War isn’t going to be between the US and Russia—it will be US/Russia vs. the World. This shit feels like when a wrestling hero suddenly turns heel. Is Linda McMahon scripting this bullshit?

I’ve been saying that for a while - that Trump and Putin have a deal worked out to join forces and conquer the world.

I used to say it as a joke. Now I’m not so sure it’s that funny.

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cat-tikvah  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:30:14pm

re: #47 Mattand

You forgot to include “atheist”. That’s a real attraction for vast swaths of “real” Americans.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:30:51pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

My favorite BoB fantasy I’m seeing on twitter is a demand that the DNC and DWS admit that they illegally rigged the primaries in favor of Clinton and that will require a new general election and we’ll get President Bernie instead of DT.

O_o

They’re as delusional as the right. Honestly I’m sick of Bernie whining about the Dems not being working class friendly when he hasn’t even bothered to join the party and ignores the large number of working class people who do support the Dems. He just wants to whine about the WWC leaving the party and doesn’t want to admit their prejudices played a huge role in that departure.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:31:00pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

My favorite BoB fantasy I’m seeing on twitter is a demand that the DNC and DWS admit that they illegally rigged the primaries in favor of Clinton and that will require a new general election and we’ll get President Bernie instead of DT.

O_o

Similar to the birther fantasy that if only Obama was disqualified there would be a new election instead of Joe Biden simply becoming President.

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lockjawcanbefun  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:31:04pm

re: #39 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

If I ever win a pile of money, I’m hiring Jim Cornette to rant about things. Here’s one of his rants, and you could spend a day listening to his political rants and not even touch on his wrestling related topics.

Not work-friendly due to profanity:

Jim Cornette Asks What Will Donald Trump Will Mess Up First?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:35:00pm

re: #71 cat-tikvah

You forgot to include “atheist”. That’s a real attraction for vast swaths of “real” Americans.

I will be playing music on Christmas Eve at a Catholic Church in Frankfurt at a dinner put on for the homeless by Jewish atheist from NYC.

Happy Hannukah!

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:37:54pm

Wrighteous.

Facebook Post

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cat-tikvah  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:39:57pm

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Chag Hanukkah Sameach!

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:41:08pm

re: #76 makeitstop

Wrighteous.

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I think I know how Trump intends to hold the cost of his nuclear build-up: He’ll just have them made in China!

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:43:51pm

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel

I think I know how Trump intends to hold the cost of his nuclear build-up: He’ll just have them made in China!

And make Mexico pay for it!

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:44:44pm

I’ve been doing a bit of Google on the Ivanka Jet Blue thing and I saw an article about it from Yahoo news. Sound like it wasn’t as “assaulting” as first explained. Link to story below with a quote from one guy who was seated in front of Ivanak explaining what happened.

But what really got me…as of now 10, 750 comments to the story.

Real important stories do not get that kind of action.

Here is the quote from the passenger on the flight out the Yahoo News story and a link…

Yahoo News - Man kicked off JetBlue flight for questioning why Ivanka Trump was on it

Here is what happened. He didn’t accost her directly. When he got on and saw her, sitting behind me, he said “oh my god. This is a nightmare” and was visibly shaking. He said “they ruin the country now they ruin our flight!” (Context: Boarding and therefore the flight was delayed because they needed to get on first through some other way.) He did not yell. He was also not what I would describe as calm. Agitated maybe. His husband behind him was very calm. His son is adorable and sharply dressed. When the JetBlue staff went back to speak to the man I overheard Ivanka say to them “I don’t want to make this a thing.” My assessment is that she was happy to let the man take his seat. Security made a different call. And for good reason. The man’s calm husband had tweeted earlier that his husband was “chasing them down to harass them.” I did not witness his actual removal some rows back. If he screamed, I didn’t hear it.

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:49:39pm

re: #76 makeitstop

The thing about the nuclear weapons is that the Obama administration already began the modernization process because most of the weapons systems were nearing the end of their service life.

That includes not only the warheads, but the delivery systems.

It means that the US has to consider developing new bombers to replace the B2 and B52 (which is still going strong as the backbone of the USAF bomber fleet despite being older than all of its pilots - and some of those pilots’ fathers) with a new B21 concept.

It means a new ballistic missile (the Minuteman III (aka MX) (ground based) and Trident D-2 (sub based).

The Obama Admin estimates the cost at more than $1 trillion over the next 30 years - or more than $40 billion a year on top of an already bloated defense budget that sags under the weight of weapons programs that over budget and underperforming (F-35), the new Zumwalt destroyer program, the littoral combat ship program, etc.

Trump’s idea is to what? Spend even more money?

Force others to spend even more money they don’t have?

There’s no rationale for any of Trump’s statements, but his understanding of nuclear weapons is horrifying (more than the usual background horror show that is Trump) considering that he seems to think that we should be able to use nukes - and that there aren’t some kind of barrier to usage.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:50:21pm

re: #10 lawhawk

Gee, you think his own companies would be exempt from the tariffs?

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:53:40pm

Dumbassery on twitter:

Obamacare created monopolies in states so that there’s only one insurance provider.

*facepalm*

This one nitwit points out NC - claiming it has only one provider.

Except it doesn’t have one provider.

It had at least two in 2016. Blue Cross and Aetna. Aetna quit the ACA to goose its profits and in a huff about not being able to merge with another insurer. Cigna will be entering NC in 2017 in a number of counties. In other words, not a monopoly. Just businesses trying to maximize their profits and doing the bare minimum to help insureds (which has been a problem with health insurance since before the ACA even existed).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:57:19pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:57:58pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

Very disappointed to hear that the @Rockettes will perform at Hair Furor’s inauguration.

Does he own them or have a controlling interest in a company that does?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:58:21pm

Mormon Tabernacle Choir and the Rockettes, and possibly the Beach Boys.

This inauguration is going to be soooo amazingly retro…

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Amory Blaine  Dec 22, 2016 • 12:59:48pm

“Try” to DTS? What a fucking loser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:02:06pm

“The Trump/Pence Inauguration Festivities, Where Entertainment Careers Go To DieTM”

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:04:12pm

Remember when Trump said he ‘didn’t need big stars’ for the inauguration?

He was lying again. It’s bothering the crap out of him from the look of it.

President-elect Donald Trump is reportedly “very unhappy” with his team’s inability to secure entertainers for his Jan. 20 inauguration, as A-list stars are rumored to continue turning down requests to perform.

Trump has ordered a “Hail Mary” rearrangement of recruitment efforts to book talent for his inauguration, according to an anonymous source familiar with the situation cited in a report published Wednesday by The Wrap.

The same source told The Wrap that Mark Burnett, the executive producer of “The Apprentice” who is helping plan Trump’s inauguration festivities, enlisted Suzanne Bender, a talent producer on shows including “American Idol” and “America’s Got Talent,” to help get stars onboard.

The demand to salvage the festivities came “directly” from Trump, according to the source.

What’s next? Sending out his kneecappers to threaten stars to work the parties? That may be the only thing that’ll work at this point.

Haha. The dude got elected president and stars still won’t pretend to like him.

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:05:39pm

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does he own them or have a controlling interest in a company that does?

I believe they’re owned by Madison Square Garden.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:05:45pm

re: #89 makeitstop

It’s been reported that he’s been offering ambassadorships to talent bookers who can deliver.
They’ve been hanging up the phone on him.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:06:03pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The Trump/Pence Inauguration Festivities, Where Entertainment Careers Go To DieTM”

LoL I am so going to tweet that (w/link) if you don’t mind.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:07:14pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

They are beyond delusional. Bernie couldn’t even beat someone they despise during the primaries. How the hell woykd he have beat DT in the general?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:07:19pm

re: #92 Bubblehead II

LoL I am so going to tweet that (w/link) if you don’t mind.

No need to link. I’m pretty sure I’m not the first person to think of that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:07:42pm

re: #89 makeitstop

Best damn news I’ve heard all day.

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:13:46pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s been reported that he’s been offering ambassadorships to talent bookers who can deliver.
They’ve been hanging up the phone on him.

And no DC-based marching bands have signed on to be in the parade. I believe that’s the first time that’s ever happened.

I hope with all my heart that this rejection by the industry’s biggest stars keeps him awake at night. It probably does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:15:01pm

re: #96 makeitstop

And no DC-based marching bands have signed on to be in the parade. I believe that’s the first time that’s ever happened.

I hope with all my heart that this rejection by the industry’s biggest stars keeps him awake at night. It probably does.

Even uber wingnut conservative Gene Simmons and KISS have declined.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:15:17pm

The stars the know that kind of association will seriously damage their careers.

They aren’t stupid.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:15:31pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mormon Tabernacle Choir and the Rockettes, and possibly the Beach Boys.

This inauguration is going to be soooo amazingly retro…

The Beach Boys…as in Mike Love? No surprise there.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:18:37pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:18:42pm

Where’s Milli Vanilli when you need them?

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Interesting Times  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:21:07pm
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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:21:09pm
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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:22:13pm

Josh Marshall writes about it.

On the one hand, this is the most frivolous and inconsequential of stories. And yet, it captures quite a bit about the coming Trump Era. From one perspective, it’s the ultimate confirmation of the Trumpian narrative. The cultural elite - the top musicians and movie stars - look down on Trump and refuse to associate with him. What’s notable though is that it’s not just Katy Perry and Bruce or other mega stars who we either know or assume we know have predictably liberal politics. Trump appears to be getting shut out even in the Country music world where the cultural politics run considerably more conservative and where Republican politicians usually find their entertainers.

Some of it is simply that Trump isn’t normal. He’s not just another Republican. But it also must be about the extreme age spread in the current political moment. The business of entertainment and especially the business of stardom is overwhelmingly with the young, certainly if we define youth as people under 40 or 45. So there’s likely some mix of rejection and self-protection behind the shut out. But again, even I’m surprised he apparently can’t get anyone to perform.

Heh. a ‘95 to 100%’ freezeout,’ according to a Hollywood friend of his. Good.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:22:21pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

That man has a cannibal’s smile.

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Jack Burton  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:22:54pm

re: #81 lawhawk

It means a new ballistic missile (the Minuteman III (aka MX) (ground based) and Trident D-2 (sub based).

The MX Missile was the Peacekeeper, not the Minuteman III. None of the Peacekeepers are in service anymore, and as far as I remember, the payload configuration they had is banned by treaty (too many MIRVs per launcher).

The whole program in hindsight was an enormous waste of money.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:24:01pm

Christmas in Southgate

Accordion: Flaco Jiminez
Bass: Rene Camacho
Drums: Joachim Cooder
Fiddle: Mike Seeger
Mandolin: Roland White
Piano: Van Dyke Parks
Vocals: Ry Cooder
Writer: Ry Cooder

—need I say more?

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(alpuz)  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:27:02pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

Southgate, CA?

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TedStriker  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:28:48pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even uber wingnut conservative Gene Simmons and KISS have declined.

I wouldn’t surprised if Paul Stanley objected to it, but, say what you will, Simmons is a much better businessman than Trump, for real. For example, he licensed a full-color muraled KISS coffin, FFS, and it’s extremely popular; pretty much most of the money that Simmons, Stanley, and the other band members, past and present, have earned have been because of Simmons’ hugely successful licensing deals.

Simmons knows that playing for Trump is a (money-)losing proposition and he ain’t into that at all.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:29:38pm

re: #108 (alpuz)

Southgate, CA?

Yep. And the album is set in the Depression.

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:31:07pm

re: #106 Jack Burton

Thanks. I misremembered that detail.

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Jenner7  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:31:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:34:06pm

no, not creepy at alllll……….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:38:08pm

re: #104 makeitstop

Josh Marshall writes about it.

Heh. a ‘95 to 100%’ freezeout,’ according to a Hollywood friend of his. Good.

He will not pay up front and they will not play unless they get the cash in their hand first.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:39:31pm

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will not pay up front and they will not play unless they get the cash in their hand first.

Hey, but what if he doesn’t find their performance satisfactory?
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:40:02pm

Why do I hate flying these days?

It’s not the possibility of terrorism or extreme mechanical catastrophes at 35,000 feet.

It’s the assholes looking for their 15 seconds of viral fame that end up delaying takeoff and make people miss connecting flights and generally fuck up OPTP (other people’s travel plans).

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:40:37pm

Please excuse me, but I felt like a little Christmas music was in order since we are talking about Trump not getting any top talent and after seeing VB’s 10 most hated Christmas songs.

I originally caught this show years ago (Can’t remember where?) and was always blown away that such an artist and his band would undertake this piece of music…and in my opinion nail it in his own way.

Lady’s and germs…The Brian Setzer Orchestra doing “The Nutcracker Suite” in a swing rock-a-billy style. (I hope VB likes this…I’d hate to have it added to her list!)

THE BRIAN SETZR ORCHESTER/Nutcracker Suite/Rumble in Brighton

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Interesting Times  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:43:21pm

re: #104 makeitstop

Josh Marshall writes about it.

Heh. a ‘95 to 100%’ freezeout,’ according to a Hollywood friend of his. Good.

And the only thing that could possibly make it better is…

MARK ROSS, a concert promoter and the son of the late Time Warner CEO Steve Ross, is in the process of putting together a large-scale concert called “We the People” to DIRECTLY compete with Donald Trump’s inauguration. The organizers are looking to hold the event in Miami on Inauguration Day. “The talent is banging on our doors to do this,” according to a source familiar with the planning, although not a single act has been revealed as of yet. Ross is in the midst of lining up funding, according to a source.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:43:40pm

The Bob & Chez Show Presented By BubbleGenius.com 12/22/16

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:45:01pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why do I hate flying these days?

It’s not the possibility of terrorism or extreme mechanical catastrophes at 35,000 feet.

It’s the assholes looking for their 15 seconds of viral fame that end up delaying takeoff and make people miss connecting flights and generally fuck up OPTP (other people’s travel plans).

And the fact that these sort of stories eat up tons of bandwidth…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:47:19pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why do I hate flying these days?

It’s not the possibility of terrorism or extreme mechanical catastrophes at 35,000 feet.

It’s the assholes looking for their 15 seconds of viral fame that end up delaying takeoff and make people miss connecting flights and generally fuck up OPTP (other people’s travel plans).

For me, it’s more about the distance from the back of the seat ahead of me to my seatback exactly equaling the length of my femurs.

But, yeah. That other shit’s bad, too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:49:14pm

Hey, what happened to the little bar by the comment box that allowed you to see when a new thread had been started?

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:50:00pm

re: #122 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, what happened to the little bar by the comment box that allowed you to see when a new thread had been started?

Mine’s still there.

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:50:21pm

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darthstar  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:56:09pm

re: #76 makeitstop

Wrighteous.

Yay new arms race!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:56:23pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

Mine’s still there.

Then don’t reload! It might disappear!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:56:25pm

re: #124 plansbandc

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Reminds me of the Woody Allen Quote:

“More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.”

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unproven innocence  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:58:02pm

re: #122 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, what happened to the little bar by the comment box that allowed you to see when a new thread had been started?

re: #123 wrenchwench

Mine’s still there.

Mine is missing. Have to revisit top of thread now to see notice of a new thread.

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scottslemmons  Dec 22, 2016 • 1:59:17pm

re: #128 unproven innocence

Mine is missing. Have to revisit top of thread now to see notice of a new thread.

I’m not seeing it either. :(

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Amory Blaine  Dec 22, 2016 • 2:00:25pm

I don’t give a fuck about Ivanka or her security. These legacy scumbags parasitically suck the life of the poor and workers who don’t ever enjoy security. It goes double for Trump’s stupid little water baby. That little fucker will probably be worse than the other two fuckface chinless wonders. Even more removed from the rest of us and living in a goddamned bubble. Downding, etc.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2016 • 2:08:56pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

Then don’t reload! It might disappear!

New thread doesn’t show the old one. Uh oh.

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unproven innocence  Dec 22, 2016 • 2:11:51pm

re: #131 wrenchwench

New thread doesn’t show the old one. Uh oh.

I suspect Charles is tweeking the code right now.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2016 • 2:13:59pm

re: #132 unproven innocence

I suspect Charles is tweeking the code right now.

I hate change. Now more than ever (if I may steal one from Nixon).

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 2:18:05pm

re: #109 TedStriker

I wouldn’t surprised if Paul Stanley objected to it, but, say what you will, Simmons is a much better businessman than Trump, for real. For example, he licensed a full-color muraled KISS coffin, FFS, and it’s extremely popular; pretty much most of the money that Simmons, Stanley, and the other band members, past and present, have earned have been because of Simmons’ hugely successful licensing deals.

Simmons knows that playing for Trump is a (money-)losing proposition and he ain’t into that at all.

And once the real KISS (Pal & Gene and those other guys) retire, watch for them to trn the franchise into the rock version of Blue Man Group - permanent installations in NY and Vegas, and ‘approved’ tribute bands touring.

Gene’s retirement plan. I’ve heard this from a few people who would definitely know.

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 2:21:04pm

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will not pay up front and they will not play unless they get the cash in their hand first.

That’s part of it. But the other part is that nobody of any musical worth wants to have their brands associated with Trump.

Ask the Stones. Keith nearly went after him with a knife one time, and Stones security faced off with Trump security more than once.

Agents have long memories. Once you pull the crap Trump pulls, you’re dead to them.

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2016 • 2:22:06pm

re: #118 Interesting Times

And the only thing that could possibly make it better is…

BeachDem should get a cut of that pie. It was her idea!

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 22, 2016 • 2:32:34pm

re: #124 plansbandc

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I like the little icons on the boxes.


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