Notorious White Supremacist Troll Chuck C. Johnson Says He’s “Doing a Lot of the Vetting” for the Trump Team

Who’s flying the Trump plane?
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Stefan Molyneux is one of the malignant personalities popular with the “alt-right,” a sort of Renaissance man of horrible white supremacism and misogyny. And today in his YouTube webcast of awfulness he interviewed a motley crew of racists and conspiracy-mongering dirtbags including Alex Jones, Paul Joseph Watson, Gavin McInnes, Vox Day, Scott Adams… and last but least, our old pal, white supremacist cyberstalker Chuck C. Johnson.

The reason why I’m even writing about this hatefest dressed up in an ugly Christmas sweater is because Johnson claims in this video that he’s “doing a lot of the vetting” for the incoming Trump administration. If that’s true (and given what a majestic shitshow Trump’s picks for his cabinet and other government positions has been so far I wouldn’t be surprised), then Trump has given one of the most important jobs in the United States to one of the most despicable racist scumbags imaginable.

As I said, this wouldn’t be surprising; it would be just one more nightmarish component of the Trump Horror.

Johnson, by the way, was recently banned again from Twitter when he tried to come back for the 25th time. (That’s not a typo; he’s now tried to register 24 times since his original account was permanently banned.) And he just got his access to his Facebook account restored, after his fourth month-long suspension this year.

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 23, 2016 • 3:57:27pm

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darthstar  Dec 23, 2016 • 3:59:11pm

Yesterday’s Jeopardy champion looks like the fuckin’ rage furby. I can barely watch. Hopefully he loses tonight.

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Citizen K  Dec 23, 2016 • 3:59:50pm

If (and it’s a huge ‘if’) it’s true…then it truly is the year of failing upward.

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mmmirele  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:00:41pm

re: #1 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

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That is one of my favorite storybooks! /s

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:01:02pm

Looks like Carrie Fisher is going to make it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:01:24pm

Stefan Molyneux looks like Hitler’s shaved scrotum.

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:02:32pm

re: #3 Citizen K

If (and it’s a huge ‘if’) it’s true…then it truly is the year of failing upward.

Some shit floats.

(Not that this is likely to be true. Wee man is basically the off-brand tinned luncheon meat of wingnut hypemonger Patreon grifter.)

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Skip Intro  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:04:38pm

So it appears that Trump fan Mike Love, owner of the Beach Boys brand, may be performing for Trump. A cover band of a 1960s surf band, without the talent.

Perfect for Trump.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:07:25pm
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Citizen K  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:07:39pm

re: #7 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

Some shit floats.

(Not that this is likely to be true. Wee man is basically the off-brand tinned luncheon meat of wingnut hypemonger Patreon grifter.)

Which is why the huge ‘if’. Regardless, the fact that this asshole even gets treated with some modicum of respect shows it doesn’t matter how hateful or mediocre you are, long as you’re a white right-wing lunatic, you can get treated like a fucking king.

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TedStriker  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:08:28pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

Looks like Carrie Fisher is going to make it.

Better news than earlier, but I’ll feel a lot better if a positive determination of any brain/organ damage is made, given how long she wasn’t breathing.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:11:56pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

Looks like Carrie Fisher is going to make it.

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As I said downstairs,

Sorry but I find that extremely unlikely based on the BBC reports. ~10+ minutes without breathing? Manual CPR till the hospital? I’d guess it’s more a matter of family arrival and sorting out who has the power of attorney for medical to authorize pulling the plug.

Godspeed Princess.

bbc.com

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:14:11pm

No way that stupid beard gets past Trump’s facial hair radar.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:14:52pm

How is it with you?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:20:00pm
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Birth Control Works  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:20:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:21:25pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:21:48pm

As many others have noted, four years of self-satisfactory tweets about what an awesome dude he is.

**Retch**

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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:24:20pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Weaselone  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:24:23pm

re: #12 William Lewis

I’m torn. It’s 5 minutes for permanent brain damage, but she was basically given immediate assistance by a trained EMT. A really good one could have kept her sufficiently oxygenated at the cost of several fractured ribs.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:24:36pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Hey Don, Russia doesn’t have an electoral college. Give that a thought for a second.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:25:00pm

re: #13 Barefoot Grin

No way that stupid beard gets past Trump’s facial hair radar.

Evening Lizards.

He’s not applying for a top level job. If what he says is true, then it was probably a low level apparatchik who gave him the go ahead. tRump probably doesn’t even know or cares about him. But he will speak in his name. That should give you some pause.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:28:10pm
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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:29:57pm

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:30:31pm
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Citizen K  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:31:49pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Remember when Obama publicly stated he had to represent all Americans, not just the ones that voted for him?

What a loser. Donald Trump is showing how it’s done: don’t represent even the ones that voted for you!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:34:35pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:40:54pm

re: #14 Birth Control Works

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How is it with you?

Feral Girl!

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:43:09pm
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Birth Control Works  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:43:13pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

Feral Girl!

No, just a random google search result.

But, cute nonetheless!

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Birth Control Works  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:43:35pm

being called to dinner.

bbl

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:47:44pm

This would make a great shower curtain.

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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:55:12pm

Joe Bonamassa has gotten in the Christmas spirit and has released a bunch of Christmas songs for free ahead of the holiday.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:55:24pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

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The way a president’s thoughts and views are conveyed to the public does not somehow invalidate them or make them of lesser importance. A president giving a speech on the radio does not mean the public can simply ignore it because not everybody is tuning in to listen to it.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 23, 2016 • 4:59:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:02:12pm

re: #11 TedStriker

re: #12 William Lewis

As I also said downstairs:

First person to respond on the plane was an EMT, followed by a doctor and nurse. Commercial airliners now have AEDs as well as oxygen. Manual CPR doesn’t mean she wasn’t getting oxygen.

All is not as hopeless as has been presented by the media.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:04:28pm

Night Lizards. We have all seen this coming. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:04:38pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

Personally, I think it’s way stupider than some kind of conspiracy or string-pulling.

Trump is dumpy tough-guy wannabe and Putin is who he’s fanboying over. Like how his playboy image involved aping John Casablancas.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:06:00pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

Looks like Carrie Fisher is going to make it.

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Stable condition just means her status isn’t changing, she’s still in critical condition.

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I also said downstairs:

All is not as hopeless as has been presented by the media.

(Meaningful) survival rate of someone after getting 10 minutes of CPR (if that is actual) isn’t very good.

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:08:08pm

re: #38 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

Lagniappe:

Donald Trump has a mediocre record as a developer and entrepreneur, yet play-acts being a super-successful billionaire on TV.

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stpaulbear  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:09:41pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

No puppet… No puppet! YOU’RE THE PUPPET!!1!1!!

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:11:32pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I also said downstairs:

All is not as hopeless as has been presented by the media.

Perhaps I’ve spent too much time around EMT’s & Pathologists (my father has been doing autopsies for over 50 years) so I have very very little hope.

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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:13:39pm

re: #42 William Lewis

Carrie is one with the Force and the Force is one with Carrie.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:17:05pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:17:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:20:19pm
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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:24:29pm

Electoral Integrity Project: North Carolina is no longer classified as a democracy.
newsobserver.com

More at the article linked above… .

In 2012 Elklit and I worked with Pippa Norris of Harvard University, who used the system as the cornerstone of the Electoral Integrity Project. Since then the EIP has measured 213 elections in 153 countries and is widely agreed to be the most accurate method for evaluating how free and fair and democratic elections are across time and place.

When we evolved the project I could never imagine that as we enter 2017, my state, North Carolina, would perform so badly on this, and other, measures that we are no longer considered to be a fully functioning democracy.

In the just released EIP report, North Carolina’s overall electoral integrity score of 58/100 for the 2016 election places us alongside authoritarian states and pseudo-democracies like Cuba, Indonesia and Sierra Leone. If it were a nation state, North Carolina would rank right in the middle of the global league table - a deeply flawed, partly free democracy that is only slightly ahead of the failed democracies that constitute much of the developing world.

Read more here: newsobserver.com

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:25:41pm
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bratwurst  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:26:36pm

I have mentioned before that watching celebrities do battle with airline assist accounts on Twitter is a guilty pleasure of mine. Not much a celebrity in this case…but if you share this predilection of mine, please enjoy.

BTW I am totally empathetic, had my share of heartbreak in decades of air travel. However, it is not the 20th century anymore. No amount of online shaming is going to get an airline to give you a hotel room due to a weather-related delay.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:27:03pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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Authoritarian regimes make a habit of running all those who supported the previous regime out in favor of filling the seats with sycophants and brainless followers. At least Trump hasn’t yet signaled that he’ll engage in the other past-time of such regimes: Having those removed from office jailed/executed.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:31:50pm

re: #49 bratwurst

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:34:58pm

A joke probably only darthstar and I get.

Facebook Post

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Alyosha  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:40:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:40:51pm

re: #42 William Lewis

Perhaps I’ve spent too much time around EMT’s & Pathologists (my father has been doing autopsies for over 50 years) so I have very very little hope.

I’m a retired EMT.
I know better than to rely on the media for this kind of expertise.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:42:24pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Trump has asked for lists of names of climate change scientists, women’s rights advocates, & now anti-terror officials. THIS IS NOT NORMAL.

I want the names of all white supremacists, Birch Society members, and Moon landing deniers.
What?!
Somebody doesn’t like that? Sheesh! What are they hiding?

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Alyosha  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:45:03pm

Okay, one more.

At work right now. Xmas spirit has long since departed lol

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:46:14pm

Day three of the home water crisis: The plumber just left for the day. Water has been restored to my kitchen (though not my RO unit, so I have to use a water filter). He will be back tomorrow to complete the work to restore the rest of our water, pass go, and collect $3,000 (ouch).

The insurance adjuster was not out today; he will come tomorrow.

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Archangelus  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:47:30pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a retired EMT.
I know better than to rely on the media for this kind of expertise.

This, this, this.
The sheer magnitude of media/social media stupidity I’ve seen over the past half hour, with so many ignorant folks trying to pass themselves off as medical experts, reinforces this massively. So much stupidity makes media reports totally unreliable.

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Archangelus  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:48:19pm

On a different note, screw this hypocrite:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:55:41pm

re: #58 Archangelus

This, this, this.
The sheer magnitude of media/social media stupidity I’ve seen online in the past half hour, with so many ignorant folks trying to pass themselves off as medical experts, reinforces this massively. So much stupidity makes media reports totally unreliable.

Really…the “she stopped breathing!!!” came from a tweet by an alleged passenger on the plane. How did that person know that for a fact? (“OMG! I saw them put an oxygen mask on her!!11!!!” — my small and feeble attempt at a dramatic re-enactment…)

“CPR continued even after they took her off the plane” — according to another anonymous source who probably hasn’t got a clue what actual CPR looks like.

“Ten minutes without breathing!!11!!” — again, according to WHO???
Carrie became in distress in flight. Medical assistance from qualified passengers was requested by the flight crew.

Got to say that my first thought was a DVT broke loose, not a heart attack.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:57:56pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

I swear I think they are trying to see how far they can push before they get serious pushback.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 5:58:04pm

re: #59 Archangelus

On a different note, screw this hypocrite:

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same guy who worked under a President who abstained from the same UN vote six times?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:09:01pm

re: #59 Archangelus

On a different note, screw this hypocrite:

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Yeah Ari, it’s too bad that Obama never had an adviser like Jim Baker who said “Fuck the Jews, they don’t vote for us anyway.” The settlements are a roadblock to the peace process and Bibi fucking knows it but he doesn’t care.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:09:25pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

same guy who worked under a President who abstained from the same UN vote six times?

That was different. Bush had an R next to his name and he wasn’t a blah guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:09:43pm

I’m just gonna say this once as a retired EMT who has been in the trenches and have actually done CPR on people who survived, those who didn’t, and refused to do it when I could tell it was beyond hope.

As long as there is oxygen moving in the lungs and blood, the brain has a major advantage to survive in great form.

Oxygen moves with Mouth-To-Mouth, with an oxygen mask, with a BVM.
Chest compressions keep the heart moving that blood oxygen moving onward upward to the brain.
An AED can get that heart going again, even if the rhythm is erratic. Erratic rhythm is better than a flat line any day.

And kudos to that EMT on the flight who came up from coach to first class to answer the call. No matter what happened, once you start CPR, you never give up, you never surrender, unless someone higher up the ladder takes over or the patient says “stop!”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:10:29pm

Trump wants to fuck over our NATO allies in favor of Russia. Republicans: Well he’s our nominee/guy. Obama does something similiar on the Israeli settlements that past president have done. Republicans: OMG OBAMA BETRAYED ISRAEL!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:10:56pm

Glad it looks good for Carrie Fisher. Been a tough year for losing good people both in and outside of public life.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:16:02pm

TBH, I consider myself pretty fairly pro Israeli but the settlements I think don’t help the peace process. I won’t claim to be an expert on the issue but I do think Israel would be much better off with someone like Rabin or Begin who values peace. I realize the Palestinians don’t have someone like Anwar Sadat either so that hurts things. It’s a complicated issue which is exactly why it’s fucked up of the Republicans to act like Obama betrayed Israel here.And honestly, it’s not like Bibi hasn’t gone out of his way to screw Obama due to his pathetic vendetta against him and those same Republicans chose Bibi, a man who isn’t even their President over our own. We have similar but not the same interests as the Israelis. Republican end-timers need to get stop acting like our interests are exactly the same.

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:16:57pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

First Bibi, then Putin.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:18:01pm

re: #69 retired cynic

First Bibi, then Putin.

Yep. But hey Democrats aren’t patriotic because they’re not gonna give Trump everything he wants.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:30:09pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Yep. But hey Democrats aren’t patriotic because they’re not gonna give Trump everything he wants.

Because the GOP totally rubber stamped Obama…

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Dave In Austin  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:31:24pm

Started “Travelers” on Netflix tonite. Looks like another winner.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:33:20pm

re: #72 Dave In Austin

I just finished watching the first two episodes. I agree.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:36:09pm

re: #72 Dave In Austin

Started “Travelers” on Netflix tonite. Looks like another winner.

Sounds like an interesting premise. I am going to be in need of a new show soon.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:42:36pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Trump wants to fuck over our NATO allies in favor of Russia. Republicans: Well he’s our nominee/guy. Obama does something similiar on the Israeli settlements that past president have done. Republicans: OMG OBAMA BETRAYED ISRAEL!

Obama fails to send troops to Ukraine: “ZOMG! He’s betraying an ally!”

Trump basically writes Ukraine off: “We should be working with Russia, not fighting them!”

Obama oversees the largest military aid agreements to Israel: “He doesn’t care about Israel, he’d rather they were all put in the ovens!!”

Trump supports unrestricted Israeli settlement, imperiling the peace process: “He’s the greatest supporter of Israel ever!”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:43:37pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

Obama fails to send troops to Ukraine: “ZOMG! He’s betraying an ally!”

Trump basically writes Ukraine off: “We should be working with Russia, not fighting them!”

Obama oversees the largest military aid agreements to Israel: “He doesn’t care about Israel, he’d rather they were all put in the ovens!!”

Trump supports unrestricted Israeli settlement, imperiling the peace process: “He’s the greatest supporter of Israel ever!”

They just don’t care. They have no policies but reaction.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:45:14pm

Carrie Fisher Health Update: Not In Stable Condition Tonight

Carrie Fisher tonight is not in stable condition. Fisher was hospitalized in critical condition Friday December 23, 2016. But in a news statement to Variety tonight, Fisher’s brother says that reports indicating that she improved to “stable condition” are not accurate. Todd Fisher tells news “She’s in the ICU and everybody’s praying for her,” he told Variety in a phone interview. “There’s nothing new from the doctors. There’s nothing new at all. … There’s no good news or bad news.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:45:51pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Trump wants to fuck over our NATO allies in favor of Russia. Republicans: Well he’s our nominee/guy. Obama does something similiar on the Israeli settlements that past president have done. Republicans: OMG OBAMA BETRAYED ISRAEL!

You inspired this tweet-

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:45:57pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

They just don’t care. They have no policies but reaction.

Ayep. The GOP has become the reactionary party: No forward-thinking, just responding to whatever Democrats propose. Which perfectly matches their base, which never knows what it wants, but knows perfectly what it doesn’t.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:46:01pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

Obama fails to send troops to Ukraine: “ZOMG! He’s betraying an ally!”

Trump basically writes Ukraine off: “We should be working with Russia, not fighting them!”

Obama oversees the largest military aid agreements to Israel: “He doesn’t care about Israel, he’d rather they were all put in the ovens!!”

Trump supports unrestricted Israeli settlement, imperiling the peace process: “He’s the greatest supporter of Israel ever!”

The cognitive dissonance is enough to make your fucking head spin.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:46:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:46:27pm

re: #78 Unshaken Defiance

You inspired this tweet-

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Glad I could help. I don’t Tweet so I don’t mind you guys using some of my message with your own words to spread the word.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:47:03pm

re: #79 Targetpractice

Ayep. The GOP has become the reactionary party: No forward-thinking, just responding to whatever Democrats propose. Which perfectly matches their base, which never knows what it wants, but knows perfectly what it doesn’t.

HEY IT PISSES OFF LIBERALS, LET’S DO IT. Maybe we should convince them that them breathing pisses us off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:47:28pm

BTW, old EMTs never completely retire. We, at the very least, keep up our CPR skills and bring in new people every chance we get.

There are few times in life when you can actually point to a huge win like you can when a CPR is successful beyond imagination.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:47:48pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Carrie Fisher Health Update: Not In Stable Condition Tonight

Shit. Was really hoping that her condition had improved. It’s as I said been a bad year for a lot of great people in and outside of the public eye.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:48:00pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Once again it must be said: Fuck 2016.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:49:28pm

Are we sure that Keith Richards isn’t just killing celebrities and sucking out their life essence?

//

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freetoken  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:50:08pm

re: #72 Dave In Austin

I made it until a couple of episodes ago, when I lost interest.

I think the story line change after a climax of sorts kind of was a jumping off point for me.

Regardless, as a time-travel genre entry it is stronger than many as far as character development. Yet it is still presenting the most obvious of time travel flaws by not addressing the elephant in the room, the same elephant that the contemporary series Timeless also ignores - the past (for anyone) is the past and thus anything that happens X years ago is indeed X years old.

Both series tries to present the past and present (or the present and future) as being actually contemporary, running in parallel, rather than sequential. It’s the same problem with Frequency, but at least in that story the present is directing the past in a more direct way (though the paradox remains.)

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:50:27pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

Are we sure that Keith Richards isn’t just killing celebrities and sucking out their life essence?

//

Nah if he were, he’d kill Trump because you know Trump is the healthiest person ever.//

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:54:35pm

GET SOME!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:54:46pm

Hey everyone! One thing that has stuck in my mind all day is THE ROCKETTES? Who the fuck has the Rockettes at the inauguration?

Trump. That’s who.

Pitiful.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:55:46pm

That picture of Racist Furby ought to be captioned: “… and if I hold it like this then I don’t miss the toilet.”

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allegro  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:56:24pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Hey everyone! One thing that has stuck in my mind all day is THE ROCKETTES? Who the fuck has the Rockettes at the inauguration?

Trump. That’s who.

Pitiful.

Wonder how many will show. Like two Rockettes would be kinda sad. LOL

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:56:45pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior
Everyone has their skill and comfort zone right? LeftWingConspirtator aka NotApprovedByTheMPAA is a dear friend, pro writer and he and I intend to collaborate and make a dent in certain newly popular perceptions. He can write really well but detests social networks. My writing is passable on a good day, But I can work the networks. So, we #Resist, he can teach how to take our privacy back with clever apps, helpful tech companies and servers based in Sweden. Then we have #WhiteRose from William. Pages abount with good material to push back.

We had some fun back when with this Page.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:57:42pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Hey everyone! One thing that has stuck in my mind all day is THE ROCKETTES? Who the fuck has the Rockettes at the inauguration?

Trump. That’s who.

Pitiful.

Haven’t you heard? Dear Leader has announced that he, being a man of the people, does not need high-priced celebrity acts at his inauguration.

The translation being “No matter how much money I offer, nobody is willing to sell their soul to me!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:57:50pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Carrie Fisher Health Update: Not In Stable Condition Tonight

She is not dead for the moment.
Difference between critical and stable condition are fluid and change depending on circumstances.
Personally, I’m going to hope for the best (not the least because she is younger than me).

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:59:08pm

re: #94 Unshaken Defiance

Everyone has thir skill and comfort zone right? LeftWingConspirtator aka NotApprovedByTheMPAA is a dear friend, pro writer and he and I intend to collaborate and make a dent in certain newly popular perceptions. He can write really well but detests social networks. My writing is passable on a good day, But I can work the networks. So, we #Resist, he can teach how to take our privacy back with clever apps, helpful tech companies and servers based in Sweden. Then we have #WhiteRose from William. Pages abount with good material to push back.

We had some fun back when with this Page.
littlegreenfootballs.com

I actually don’t mind social networks- I have both an instagram and I was close to being an original on Facebook as one can be. I think my writing style is better for blogging though. Twitter has its uses and I appreciate you and all who ues it to fight the good fight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 6:59:52pm

re: #93 allegro

Wonder how many will show. Like two Rockettes would be kinda sad. LOL

I think they should all be fabulous guys.

Just me thinking that, though, perhaps…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:00:18pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

Haven’t you heard? Dear Leader has announced that he, being a man of the people, does not need high-priced celebrity acts at his inauguration.

The translation being “No matter how much money I offer, nobody is willing to sell their soul to me!”

Obviously. If he ahd gotten A listers, he’d be bragging non stop about it. He’s just mad that anyone’s who is anyone in the music industry doesn’t want to perform for his orangeness.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:00:19pm

re: #93 allegro

Wonder how many will show. Like two Rockettes would be kinda sad. LOL

It’s weird no matter what.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:01:53pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

She is not dead for the moment.
Difference between critical and stable condition are fluid and change depending on circumstances.
Personally, I’m going to hope for the best (not the least because she is younger than me).

She’s my age. Makes me uneasy when people my age or younger suddenly keel over. I wasn’t aware she had any health problems.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:02:01pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think they should all be fabulous guys.

Just me thinking that, though, perhaps…

I like the idea they all show up in pantsuits.

Way more appropriate than the NYC stage attire. It’s the fucking presidency.

/prudish tonight. Fuck Trump.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:02:38pm

From October. Projection much?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:03:32pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

I like the idea they all show up in pantsuits.

Way more appropriate than the NYC stage attire. It’s the fucking presidency.

/prudish tonight. Fuck Trump.

Better yet - hijab and those onesy swimsuits.

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allegro  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:03:45pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

I like the idea they all show up in pantsuits.

Way more appropriate than the NYC stage attire. It’s the fucking presidency.

/prudish tonight. Fuck Trump.

Pantsuits and short blonde wigs. Heh.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:03:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:04:28pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

From October. Projection much?

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He’s such an ass. I really wish he had gotten what he deserves most in life and that’s a humiliating ass kicking that would make him withdraw from public life but instead our idiot electorate made him President.

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:05:11pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

I’ve heard DT tweet a lot. Haven’t heard Hillary say much if anything. So who is dignified?

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:05:27pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

He’s such an ass. I really wish he had gotten what he deserves most in life and that’s a humiliating ass kicking that would make him withdraw from public life but instead our idiot electorate made him President.

The good die young and the evil live to be a hundred. eg: Robert Mugabe.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:05:30pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

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Yeah Donald because Putin loses with dignity. Oh wait, he doesn’t actually have any real electoral opposition allowed to him. Really fuck you Donald. If you love Vladdy so much, why don’t you go to Russia and stay with him and let the adults run our coutnry.
Edited to clarify that I meant electoral opposition to him, he certainly does have legitimate opposition in people like our own Sergey who I hope is doing well.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:06:19pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

The good die young and the evil live to be a hundred. eg: Robert Mugabe.

Ayup. RFK, MLK, and JFK never lived to be 50.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:10:56pm

Colts cheerleader forgives stupid white high school boy for calling her a n****r on Snapchat.

bbc.com

The boy was seriously contrite. He gave her a bouquet and a big hug when they met the second time.

At the risk of sounding preachy, both exhibited true Christian behavior. She forgave him and reached out. He apologized, admitted he was wrong and said he was ashamed.

Now if we could just bottle this and disseminate it among the Deplorables, we might be able to save the world.

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makeitstop  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:11:07pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Nah if he were, he’d kill Trump because you know Trump is the healthiest person ever.//

And Keith hates Trump. Went after him with a knife one time.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:11:35pm

re: #105 allegro

Pantsuits and short blonde wigs. Heh.

They can all dress like Ivanka.

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makeitstop  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:12:39pm

re: #93 allegro

Wonder how many will show. Like two Rockettes would be kinda sad. LOL

There have to be at least 12 - there are 12 full-time Rockettes, and they are required to do the gig. The part-timers can turn it down if they’re so inclined.

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allegro  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:13:37pm

re: #115 makeitstop

There have to be at least 12 - there are 12 full-time Rockettes, and they are required to do the gig. The part-timers can turn it down if they’re so inclined.

I thought they backed off and made it voluntary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:16:26pm

re: #112 wheat-dogg

Leanna contacted the school principal, not to demand that the boy be punished, but to express concern for his welfare after hearing that he had received physical threats amid all the backlash.

“I just was concerned for how he was handling it, and [Principal Rick Davis] said he [the boy] wasn’t handling it well,” she said.

“That broke my heart to know that.”

The headmaster arranged for the two to meet.

wow…

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:16:35pm

A day late and a dollar short …

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Skip Intro  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:17:25pm

re: #114 wheat-dogg

They can all dress like Ivanka.

DPRK News calls her Ivan K. Trump.

I like it.

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makeitstop  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:18:49pm

re: #116 allegro

I thought they backed off and made it voluntary.

I just read up, you’re right. The union backed down.

The last report I read this afternoon said the union members were required, but they moved off of that. Good.

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ipsos  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:22:09pm

re: #120 makeitstop

I just read up, you’re right. The union backed down.

The last report I read this afternoon said the union members were required, but they moved off of that. Good.

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if they introduce the WORLD-FAMOUS ROCKETTES and there’s just one dancer standing there doing lonely kicks?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:24:00pm

re: #115 makeitstop

re: #116 allegro

Rockettes Not Required to Dance at Trump Inauguration, Company Says

Within hours of confirming plans to appear at the inauguration of Donald J. Trump, the Radio City Rockettes were plunged into a maelstrom of social media outrage on Friday amid reports that the performers were contractually obligated to dance at the ceremony or lose their jobs.

But as the day wore on, both the Madison Square Garden Company, which manages the Rockettes, and the dancers’ union, the American Guild of Variety Artists, said that any of the dancers could opt out of the Jan. 20 performance in Washington.

The day of statements followed reports that a Rockette was “embarrassed and disappointed” that the decision to perform had been made for her. The dancer’s private Instagram post was published by the gossip website Perez Hilton and quoted widely by news outlets. That dancer, Phoebe Pearl, did not respond to multiple requests for comment on Friday, nor did several of her fellow performers.

Not long after those reports, a statement relayed through Mikyl Cordova, a spokeswoman for the Madison Square Garden Company, said that dancers’ appearances are voluntary.
Continue reading the main story

“For a Rockette to be considered for an event, they must voluntarily sign up and are never told they have to perform at a particular event, including the inaugural,” the statement read. “It is always their choice.”

The statement also said that, among the dancers, Mr. Trump’s inauguration has been a popular opportunity: “In fact, for the coming inauguration, we had more Rockettes request to participate than we have slots available. We eagerly await the inaugural celebrations.” Nonetheless, the company did not respond to further inquiries or make any dancers available for interviews.

Despite these assurances, many of the women may feel under pressure to perform. Much of the fear and confusion could be traced to an email sent on Thursday night by the union to some of the dancers.

“If you are full time, you are obligated,” said that message, which was forwarded to The New York Times. “Doing the best performance to reflect an American institution which has been here for over 90 years is your job. I hope this pulls into focus the bottom line on this work.”

Union officials did not return any calls, but on Friday evening, the guild said on Facebook that it had reached an agreement with the company that would allow all employees, even full-time dancers, to opt out of the inauguration. It said the earlier email to its members had simply been an explanation of the existing contract.

The pressure to perform at the inauguration ceremony will probably vary based on the circumstances of each Rockette, according to a performer who spent five years with the company.

Heather Lang, a contemporary dancer who left the Rockettes in 2009, said in a phone interview that there are about 12 full-time dancers who perform in both winter and spring shows. They are a minority of the company, which has about 80 Rockettes. All of the dancers were seasonal until about a year ago.

Ms. Lang, 35, said that for full-time and seasonal dancers, there is a fear of jeopardizing their future employment and of compromising their standing in the eyes of James L. Dolan, the executive chairman of the Madison Square Garden Company, and his executives, if they complain or try to bow out.

“One of the most annoying situations about that job is it’s corporate,” Ms. Lang said. “It’s not like a Broadway show where you feel like you have an artistic voice. You’re sort of owned by this corporation.”

So even if an appearance is considered voluntary, individual Rockettes may feel forced to perform if they are told that executives want them onstage in Washington.

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Interesting Times  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:24:20pm

Heh (depicted below is Canada’s defense minister Harjit Sajjan)

Facebook Post

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:26:28pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:26:53pm

re: #114 wheat-dogg

They can all dress like Ivanka.

crappy dresses with icky bad seams (made in a third world country) and her shoes (made in China) that are blatant knockoff of designer shoes…

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makeitstop  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:28:14pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

crappy dresses with icky bad seams (made in a third world country) and her shoes (made in China) that are blatant knockoff of designer shoes…

I wouldn’t want to try high kicks in Ivanka shoes. Broken heels (and ankles) all over the place.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:28:51pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:29:13pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

There were some pretty funny reviews of Ivan’s shoes on Amazon yesterday. Need to check to see if Amazon has purged them yet.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:30:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:31:01pm
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TedStriker  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:32:59pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

Are we sure that Keith Richards isn’t just killing celebrities and sucking out their life essence?

//

So…Keith Richards is the Kurgan?

There can be only one…

///

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Interesting Times  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:33:52pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:34:06pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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I don’t know how we as a nation come back from where we are. We can’t even agree on the most basic of things, like how to determine what’s true.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:34:57pm

re: #112 wheat-dogg

Colts cheerleader forgives stupid white high school boy for calling her a n****r on Snapchat.

bbc.com

The boy was seriously contrite. He gave her a bouquet and a big hug when they met the second time.

At the risk of sounding preachy, both exhibited true Christian behavior. She forgave him and reached out. He apologized, admitted he was wrong and said he was ashamed.

Now if we could just bottle this and disseminate it among the Deplorables, we might be able to save the world.

I would edit that to read “both exhibited true empathy” but that’s just me. Christianity does not have a patent on empathy and compassion. At the risk of sounding preachy, of course. ::)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:35:07pm

re: #131 TedStriker

So…Keith Richards is the Kurgan?

/there can be only one

“Ramirez was an effete snob. I took his head, and then I took his woman.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:35:21pm
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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:36:23pm

re: #134 Anymouse

I would edit that to read “both exhibited true empathy” but that’s just me. Christianity does not have a patent on empathy and compassion. At the risk of sounding preachy, of course. ::)

I know was being exclusive there, but most Deplorables are nominally Christian as is most if not all of Trump’s Cabinet (AFAIK).

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:37:24pm

re: #136 Unshaken Defiance

It’s raining in L.A.? Whoa …

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:38:30pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

It’s raining in L.A.? Whoa …

Pull the covers off the reservoirs!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:40:09pm

re: #136 Unshaken Defiance

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Rango steadfastly believes that it only rains in the back yard. We never take him out for walkies in the rain, so as far as he knows, it doesn’t rain in the rest of the world.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:41:09pm

re: #139 retired cynic

Pull the covers off the reservoirs!

I guess now Trump will ‘open up the water’, and end the drought, which apparently has nothing to do with lack of precipitation.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:42:26pm

re: #137 wheat-dogg

I know was being exclusive there, but most Deplorables are nominally Christian as is most if not all of Trump’s Cabinet (AFAIK).

As such, Mr. Trump’s Christian supporters can continue to paint we atheists as evil and immoral, adding most of us don’t support Christian America’s (tm) choice.

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darthstar  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:43:20pm

What the fuck? I have to pay $8.99 to watch Santa Claus is Comin’ To Town? I’m buying it on Monday for $1.99 and then I won’t have to get shafted to see Santa next fucking Xmas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:44:53pm

re: #142 Anymouse

As such, Mr. Trump’s Christian supporters can continue to paint we atheists as evil and immoral, adding most of us don’t support Christian America’s (tm) choice.

hate to tell you that they hate most other christians every bit as much.

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freetoken  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:45:18pm

Debussy rattled off piano tunes like a pro but I think many of them work better when written for more than a soloist (and many of the most popular Debussy variations were orchestrated by Ravel), and here is another example, where adding a violin to the piano makes for a more engaging piece, I think:

La plus que lente: Waltz

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:45:43pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:46:02pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

It’s raining in L.A.? Whoa …

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:47:19pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

hate to tell you that they hate most other christians every bit as much.

Oh I am aware of that. Catholics? They’re papists. Mormons? They’re not Christians at all (despite believing in the same Jesus they do). Episcopalians? Too liberal.

There isn’t a Christian religion. There are ten thousand different religions that all go by the name “Christianity.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:48:17pm

Can you just feel his economic anxiety?
Imma trying to feel his WWC pain but it just ain’t happening…

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:48:57pm

Twitter has made it super easy to incorporate emojis in tweets.

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freetoken  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:49:14pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

It’s raining in L.A.? Whoa …

Two days ago an upper level low drifted north from the subtropics to off of San Diego, where these things tend to die (always when a hurricane makes it up this far.) Anyway, we got some warm rain a couple of days ago. Now a more typical winter cold front is coming through… and with the local surface already wet there is also enough precipitable water to make for some good rainfall.

First time in about 3 years.

We’re still behind for the yearly rainfall average, though.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:51:29pm

Carl Paladino (Donald Trump’s New York campaign chair, Mr. “Gold Star families support terrorism”) today claimed Michelle Obama is a man and should go back to Africa.

He clarified it wasn’t about race.

huffingtonpost.com

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darthstar  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:52:20pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

It’s raining in L.A.? Whoa …

Better yet, it’s been pouring in Half Moon Bay - this is the path storms take to the Sierras. Then they build up strength, race across fuckin’ Nevada like a cheap thrill, and dump ultra-light powder on your sorry ass.

(~):-}

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:53:43pm

re: #152 Anymouse

Carl Paladino (Donald Trump’s New York campaign chair, Mr. “Gold Star families support terrorism”) today claimed Michelle Obama is a man and should go back to Africa.

He clarified it wasn’t about race.

huffingtonpost.com

Discussed extensively downstairs:
littlegreenfootballs.com

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darthstar  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:55:42pm
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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:55:59pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

Discussed extensively downstairs:
littlegreenfootballs.com

I was late for the party. Sorry.

re: #153 darthstar

Better yet, it’s been pouring in Half Moon Bay - this is the path storms take to the Sierras. Then they build up strength, race across fuckin’ Nevada like a cheap thrill, and dump ultra-light powder on your sorry ass.

(~):-}

Then it roars into the High Plains.

Right now we are under a Winter Storm Watch, with Blizzard Warnings to our north (western South Dakota, all of North Dakota).

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:55:59pm

re: #153 darthstar

Ha ha ha!

Did you see this? Now any dentist can slay the pow, much to the jaded locals’ detriment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:57:53pm

re: #156 Anymouse

I was late for the party. Sorry.

no prob, just wanted to give you a heads up for lizard opinions on the matter.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 7:59:08pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

no prob, just wanted to give you a heads up for lizard opinions on the matter.

Uh, …

Disappointed?
Disdainful?

Want to put a dog muzzle on him?

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:01:18pm

re: #159 Anymouse

Beyond disgusted. Rabid dog.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:05:03pm

Wife and I are Netflixing tonite. Now watching “Into The Inferno”. It’s a 4K documentary on Volcano. Some of the best shots I’ve seen.

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Jenner7  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:09:03pm

Time for White Christmas….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:11:25pm

re: #159 Anymouse

Guess you just have to read through that thread.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:14:43pm

re: #147 Unshaken Defiance

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I drove through that shit yesterday to Las Vegas, 4 hours became 7. Because of idiots who became deadly wrecks.

I knew waiting another day was not going to improve the circumstances.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:18:29pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

I was in Vegas on my birthday (7 May) and it rained most of the day that day. Not deluges, just a nice steady sprinkle for the entire day. I’m glad I was drinking and wandering the strip that day (the outside temperature was quite pleasant, low 60s) because before the Umphrey’s McGee show that night I watched the local news and traffic was an absolute mess all across the city.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:21:18pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

I drove through that shit yesterday to Las Vegas, 4 hours became 7. Because of idiots who became deadly wrecks.

I knew waiting another day was not going to improve the circumstances.

Good thing we got home from California when we did (the Sierras were mostly clear). That, and the flood in the basement.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:23:44pm
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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:24:05pm

Area weather, courtesy of the storm coming on shore in LA, from the Cheyenne NWS office:

I live in the southern Panhandle, so for now the prediction is little snow, but a slight movement of the storm could change that.

We continue to monitor a powerful storm system which could bring hazardous winter weather to parts of the region Christmas Day. This storm system is moving onshore out west. Confidence is increasing that the greatest impacts will be from east central Wyoming into the northern Nebraska Panhandle, where 2-5 inches of snow will combine with wind gusts over 40 MPH to produce very low visibilities and near-blizzard conditions in falling and blowing snow. A Winter Storm Watch remains in effect for those areas from 5 AM Sunday until 5 AM Monday. Areas across far southeast Wyoming and the southern Nebraska Panhandle may receive very little if any snow, but the I-80 corridor from Arlington to (and including) Cheyenne will be very windy with wind gusts of 55+ MPH likely. A High Wind Watch has been posted from the southern Laramie Range east to Cheyenne from 8 AM to 11 PM Sunday. If you are planning travel across east central Wyoming or the northern Nebraska Panhandle, please be prepared to adjust your plans accordingly. This storm will likely be much worse across the western and central Dakotas, where Blizzard Watches and Warnings are in effect. Be weather aware if you are heading that direction as conditions may be life threatening!

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:24:13pm

This is sad. Astronauts have to go through some pretty rigourous health exams to remain on active duty. Piers Sellers last space mission was in 2010. Five years later he was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. He died Friday at 61.
bbc.com

Happy journey, space man.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:25:00pm

re: #93 allegro

Wonder how many will show. Like two Rockettes would be kinda sad. LOL

MC: “And now, the Rockettes!”

Stagehand: [whispers in his ear]

MC: “Uh…make that the Rockette…”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:25:50pm
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Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:31:48pm

I hope for the dancer(s) sake, management have asked for cash up front.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:34:38pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:35:57pm

We’ll have our memories.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:37:39pm

I just got to thinking, I think Dark_Falcon isn’t coming back to LGF. He’s probably pleased with the election of Fuckface Von Clownstick. I hope I’m wrong on both scores.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:38:06pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:38:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:38:55pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

I just got to thinking, I think Dark_Falcon isn’t coming back to LGF. He’s probably pleased with the election of Fuckface Von Clownstick. I hope I’m wrong on both scores.

You are not wrong in either case.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:41:02pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

You are not wrong in either case.

That’s too bad. Oh well, he only thinks the way he does because if he thought any differently his father would disown him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:42:57pm

re: #179 teleskiguy

That’s too bad. Oh well, he only thinks the way he does because if he thought any differently his father would disown him.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:43:01pm

re: #179 teleskiguy

That’s too bad. Oh well, he only thinks the way he does because if he thought any differently his father would disown him.

I didn’t have much chance to speak with him here (I only joined shortly before he left). Although we are certainly on different political planes, I did appreciate some of what he had to say.

That said, I don’t believe for a minute he did not support Mr. Trump. Dark Falcon always struck me as a “party first” sort of fellow.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:44:04pm

OK nevermind, I harbor no good will towards Dark_Falcon.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:52:22pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

So, Dark is in Rep. Steve King’s “deport Anymouse to Poland” camp then?

Or perhaps he disagrees with Carl Paladino’s recent statements? Opposes Richard Spence and Steve Bannon?

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:53:55pm

re: #183 Anymouse

So, Dark is in Rep. Steve King’s “deport Anymouse to Poland” camp then?

Or perhaps he disagrees with Carl Paladino’s recent statements? Opposes Richard Spence and Steve Bannon?

Yes, no, no, and no.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:54:09pm

re: #183 Anymouse

Dark is GOP Go Team, Go!
Because his father…or something …

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Bass Reeves  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:54:15pm

re: #112 wheat-dogg

I…umm…honestly felt frustrated by this story. His punishment for being racist and immature is….to have further contact and put himself in the victim shoes?

Look, I get being a bigger person, and the theoretical Christian concepts, but I’m very tired of this. Black people should not have to keep being understanding of racism in 2016. Kid gets harassed and bullied, he should have known better. He got to put his arm around a professional cheerleader, and felt the need to be racist, he should be made to feel bad and not get a frackin hug.

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whitebeach  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:57:10pm

My brother, my mom and I got to talking about movies and the topic swung around to which one of all of them we ever saw we would want to watch on Christmas Day. We agreed almost immediately that it wouldn’t be any of the classics, certainly not “Perfect Life” and not even any of the versions of Scrooge.

What we wanted, it seems, is something that simply makes us feel good for being human. The discussion ended without conclusion since my brother had to leave, but our preliminary candidates were a pretty diverse lot: It Happened One Night; African Queen; King of Hearts; and Zorba the Greek.

Any helpful suggestions, folks?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:58:52pm

re: #183 Anymouse

So, Dark is in Rep. Steve King’s “deport Anymouse to Poland” camp then?

Or perhaps he disagrees with Carl Paladino’s recent statements? Opposes Richard Spence and Steve Bannon?

I miss DF’s presence here as an example of the opposition, but I don’t miss his occasional flashes of Party Above Country and generally tone deaf pronouncements. I rarely if ever downding regulars here, but DF received at least two from me and told him why. Never got a response for either ding.

In a lot of ways, he reminded me of a creationist or some other fervently devout religious person, who is impervious to any kind of logical argument or reasoning. He was unyielding in his devotion to the GOP, and though he said he disdained Trump, I’m reasonably sure he voted for the schmuck anyway, because of the R next to his name.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 8:59:43pm

re: #187 whitebeach

The Toxic Avenger. Surf Nazis Must Die. The Class of Nuke ‘Em High.

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blueraven  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:02:36pm

re: #187 whitebeach

My brother, my mom and I got to talking about movies and the topic swung around to which one of all of them we ever saw we would want to watch on Christmas Day. We agreed almost immediately that it wouldn’t be any of the classics, certainly not “Perfect Life” and not even any of the versions of Scrooge.

What we wanted, it seems, is something that simply makes us feel good for being human. The discussion ended without conclusion since my brother had to leave, but our preliminary candidates were a pretty diverse lot: It Happened One Night; African Queen; King of Hearts; and Zorba the Greek.

Any helpful suggestions, folks?

Sergeant York

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:03:08pm

re: #186 Bass Reeves

I…umm…honestly felt frustrated by this story. His punishment for being racist and immature is….to have further contact and put himself in the victim shoes?

Look, I get being a bigger person, and the theoretical Christian concepts, but I’m very tired of this. Black people should not have to keep being understanding of racism in 2016. Kid gets harassed and bullied, he should have known better. He got to put his arm around a professional cheerleader, and felt the need to be racist, he should be made to feel bad and not get a frackin hug.

High school students do stupid things. Sometimes fatally stupid things. Cut the kid some slack. Maybe he learned something from this.

She’s an adult. She treated him like a kid, because he is one. As far as I’m concerned, she did the right thing. Getting all confrontational would have just made the situation worse. He was already taking some serious heat on social media, which could have escalated into violence.

Anyway, he hugged her. She responded in kind. End of story.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:03:47pm

re: #187 whitebeach

The only one I willingly watch is Die Hard. There are other days for movies.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:03:59pm

re: #188 wheat-dogg

I miss DF’s presence here as an example of the opposition, but I don’t miss his occasional flashes of Party Above Country and generally tone deaf pronouncements. I rarely if ever downding regulars here, but DF received at least two from me and told him why. Never got a response for either ding.

In a lot of ways, he reminded me of a creationist or some other fervently devout religious person, who is impervious to any kind of logical argument or reasoning. He was unyielding in his devotion to the GOP, and though he said he disdained Trump, I’m reasonably sure he voted for the schmuck anyway, because of the R next to his name.

I got chastised quite a bit for calling Dark_Falcon “a company man through and through.” I commented frequently when he was around that he would pull the lever for Fuckface Von Clownstick. He always denied he would do as such, and I’d call him out again, only to get downdinged and chastised by some Lizards.

Well, I think I was right.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:04:39pm

re: #189 teleskiguy

The Toxic Avenger. Surf Nazis Must Die. The Class of Nuke ‘Em High.

Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:05:05pm

re: #187 whitebeach

Love Actually. Ghost. Gandhi. Casablanca.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:06:40pm

re: #194 Anymouse

Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death

Zoltan…Hound of Dracula. Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-A-Rama. Doctor Duck’s Super Secret All-Purpose Sauce.

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Jayleia  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:07:16pm

re: #194 Anymouse

This is great, what is it?

It’s Jaques.

Is that some kind of meat substitute?

It’s Jacques.

I LOVED THAT MOVIE!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:08:48pm

re: #187 whitebeach

Trading Places.

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makeitstop  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:09:28pm

re: #187 whitebeach

My brother, my mom and I got to talking about movies and the topic swung around to which one of all of them we ever saw we would want to watch on Christmas Day. We agreed almost immediately that it wouldn’t be any of the classics, certainly not “Perfect Life” and not even any of the versions of Scrooge.

What we wanted, it seems, is something that simply makes us feel good for being human. The discussion ended without conclusion since my brother had to leave, but our preliminary candidates were a pretty diverse lot: It Happened One Night; African Queen; King of Hearts; and Zorba the Greek.

Any helpful suggestions, folks?

Anything with Gene Kelly or Fred Astaire. Dance as poetry.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:10:20pm
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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:11:12pm

Our ex-mayor brought by four Canada geese he and his grandson shot this morning.

They are currently cooling in our shed because we didn’t have any water to clean them.

He likes to hunt, but does not like to clean geese. As such, he wouldn’t hunt geese until my wife commented one day she never had eaten geese before (and she knows how to clean birds).

Next morning: blam blam blam blam down by the river, and he shows up ten minutes later with a couple geese.

He has come by a couple times since then, bearing geese. My wife will usually give part of them already cooked back to him.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:15:33pm
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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:21:10pm

re: #200 FormerDirtDart

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Beautifully done, especially for this year. I forwarded iy to my priest.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:22:42pm

So, when Geo. W. Bush took office, it was alleged that Democratic staffers took all the “W” keys off typewriters and computers.

Will the outgoing staffers this time put a child-resistant safety lock on the nuclear football?

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:25:39pm

Flash Flood warnings now..

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:26:30pm

re: #203 William Lewis

Beautifully done, especially for this year. I forwarded iy to my priest.

You should send him the link.

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:26:36pm

re: #205 Unshaken Defiance

Flash Flood warnings now..

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Farmers will tell you that is always the way: too little, and then too much.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:31:21pm

re: #206 FormerDirtDart

Thanks, I don’t think he does Twitter.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:32:48pm

re: #208 William Lewis

Thanks, I don’t think he does Twitter.

Yes, but the link in the tweet goes to a web site

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:33:02pm

re: #208 William Lewis

Thanks, I don’t think he does Twitter.

You can read Twitter posts without being on Twitter. Just paste the link into a browser and the tweet (and its replies) comes up.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:34:28pm

I sent the static link. Its easier that way.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:36:18pm

Christmas music.

Christmas in Jail

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Amory Blaine  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:46:21pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:48:54pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:50:08pm
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Bass Reeves  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:51:17pm

re: #191 wheat-dogg

First off, no. I don’t cut people being racist slack. That’s part of my life is over, y’know, with Trump getting elected.

I think my problem is that I have a hard time seeing it in a vacuum. He obviously at the time thought it was okay. Maybe if we stop excusing people for being too young, or too old, or too rural, or too whatever, there would be far fewer instances of people like Carl Paladino.

But no, I was not advocating her being confrontational. I am impressed by her conduct, but I think it would have been better for her not to have further contact, or to accept a hug.

And this is so many more brain cycles than I expected to use today, but I’m waiting for my wife to finish making cupcakes so we can go to bed.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:53:29pm

bbc.com

Well, Carl Paladino’s remarks are now international news.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 9:57:57pm
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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:00:38pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:03:23pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:12:02pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:12:48pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

I just got to thinking, I think Dark_Falcon isn’t coming back to LGF. He’s probably pleased with the election of Fuckface Von Clownstick. I hope I’m wrong on both scores.

I could care less about him after he shot his mouth off about my son. Even if he comes back to apologize, I’d reject it.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:14:50pm

re: #221 teleskiguy

I read Mr. Wright’s Facebook post; I didn’t realise I’d joined the Navy before he did. (He joined during the Reagan administration, I joined during Carter’s.)

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:17:19pm

re: #222 Joe Bacon

I could care less about him after he shot his mouth off about my son. Even if he comes back to apologize, I’d reject it.

I knew that he denigrated your dearly departed son, but I’m fuzzy on the details. No matter. I’m with you, the guy is a scumbag.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:24:58pm

re: #216 Bass Reeves

First off, no. I don’t cut people being racist slack. That’s part of my life is over, y’know, with Trump getting elected.

I think my problem is that I have a hard time seeing it in a vacuum. He obviously at the time thought it was okay. Maybe if we stop excusing people for being too young, or too old, or too rural, or too whatever, there would be far fewer instances of people like Carl Paladino.

But no, I was not advocating her being confrontational. I am impressed by her conduct, but I think it would have been better for her not to have further contact, or to accept a hug.

And this is so many more brain cycles than I expected to use today, but I’m waiting for my wife to finish making cupcakes so we can go to bed.

He put his remarks on Snapchat — dumb move for sure. It would have been appropriate for someone to call him out on it on Snap right away, but I’m not sure if anyone did. He got plenty of heat later, though.

I agree with you that racism from anyone needs to be challenged and put down immediately. From what I heard, that lady in Louisville ranted several minutes at two Latinas and no one interceded or told her to pipe down. If I’d been there — unlikely since I rarely visit JC Penney or the Jefferson Mall when I am in town, I would have given her what-for.

Not sure if anyone mentioned it earlier, but the Jefferson Mall is in the southern side of Louisville, which for decades was where predominantly white working class folks lived. Beginning in the 1970s, various refugee and charitable agencies (Catholic Charities, for one) began settling Asian and African immigrants in the South End. Meanwhile, Hispanics began settling in the area, because housing expenses in the South (and the still predominantly African-American West) End are lower than anywhere else in the city.

So now the South End is demographically diverse, and angry white lady is not able to deal with it.

I love Louisville, but it is a prime example of how housing segregation can have long lasting effects over decades. Each area of town has a distinct demographic, and ironically it’s the WWC South End that’s seen the greatest change.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:31:36pm

For the past 45 minutes, very heavy rain and winds. The palm tree leaves on Normandie are flying all over the place!

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BeachDem  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:31:38pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dark is GOP Go Team, Go!
Because his father…or something …

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:32:50pm

re: #216 Bass Reeves

First off, no. I don’t cut people being racist slack. That’s part of my life is over, y’know, with Trump getting elected.

I think my problem is that I have a hard time seeing it in a vacuum. He obviously at the time thought it was okay. Maybe if we stop excusing people for being too young, or too old, or too rural, or too whatever, there would be far fewer instances of people like Carl Paladino.

But no, I was not advocating her being confrontational. I am impressed by her conduct, but I think it would have been better for her not to have further contact, or to accept a hug.

And this is so many more brain cycles than I expected to use today, but I’m waiting for my wife to finish making cupcakes so we can go to bed.

Well, as I understand racism, it is learned, not ingrained.

I call out instances where I see them, but I have not seen such here. (That doesn’t mean racism doesn’t exist, just that I have not observed or heard it.)

My guess is Mr. Paladino learned it. Now that he has an orange leader that condones it, he is letting his freak flag fly.

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:35:15pm

re: #228 Anymouse

He didn’t mind letting it fly before DT. Nasty piece of work.

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Moebym  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:36:40pm

re: #229 retired cynic

Birds of a feather.

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BeachDem  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:38:12pm

re: #187 whitebeach

O’Henry’s Full House—5 great little vignettes, the last of which is “The Gift of the Magi” with Farley Granger and Jeanne Crain.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:38:24pm

re: #229 retired cynic

He didn’t mind letting it fly before DT. Nasty piece of work.

I didn’t become aware of Mr. Paladino until he attacked the Khan family. After that, I started reading up on him. Him being on a school board is concerning.

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BeachDem  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:43:40pm

re: #232 Anymouse

I didn’t become aware of Mr. Paladino until he attacked the Khan family. After that, I started reading up on him. Him being on a school board is concerning.

Him running for governor of NY and getting 1.5 million votes is even more concerning.

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Bass Reeves  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:48:41pm

re: #225 wheat-dogg

I would posit the dumb move was the racist comment, not the medium with which he spread his message.

I went looking for a car when I was stationed at Hood. I ended up at a car dealership in Killeen. I was walking in the lot when this guy starts following me in one of those golf carts. He asks me what I’m looking, for, I tell him. What I don’t tell him is the amount I’m pre-approved for, because I’m not a goober. The sales associate and I start talking (he’s an older white male), and it turns out he’s literally from my hometown. So this should be a slam dunk for him, right? I start asking him if he knows any of my family (my Grandfather was in local politics for like 20 years), and this man feels comfortable enough to tell me that his family ‘got out before all the black people moved in’.

So no, it’s not exactly ironic that these areas see demographic change. Redlining was a thing, and the demographic changes were the largely a result of the FHA, aka dragging people kicking and screaming towards equality. IMO, needs more dragging, and maybe some kicking.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:49:49pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There’s an excellent German TV show, an eight episode series, called Deutschland 83 that uses NATO’s Able Archer exercise of 1983 as one of the major plot points. I highly recommend it. It was shown on the Sundance Network, but if you can find it, watch it.

imdb.com

In the future, there will apparently be Deutschland 86 and then finally, Deutschland 89.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:50:39pm

re: #234 Bass Reeves

I’m glad you’re here. :)

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wheat-dogg  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:51:20pm

Between this guy and Trump, it’s hard to say who I hate more.

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:53:35pm

re: #237 wheat-dogg

Between this guy and Trump, it’s hard to say who I hate more.

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Hillary is not destroyed. I would like to see him locked up, however!

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sagehen  Dec 23, 2016 • 10:55:53pm

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

There an excellent German TV show, an eight episode series, called Deutschland 83 that uses NATO’s Able Archer exercise of 1983 as one of the major plot points. I highly recommend it. It was shown on the Sundance Network, but if you can find it, watch it.

imdb.com

In the future, there will apparently be Deutschland 86 and then finally, Deutschland 89.

It’s available online
hulu.com

The general premise is… an East German spy infiltrates West German military.

In German, with English subtitles.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:00:14pm

re: #239 sagehen

It’s available online
hulu.com

The general premise is… an East German spy infiltrates West German military.

In German, with English subtitles.

I found it wholly engrossing. I binge-watched the whole thing in a day, LOL.

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Moebym  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:00:55pm

re: #237 wheat-dogg

Between this guy and Trump, it’s hard to say who I hate more.

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I hate Assange with a passion. I hope that history will put him in his rightful place - the dustbin.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:04:04pm

re: #241 Moebym

I hate Assange with a passion. I hope that history will put him in his rightful place - the dustbin.

So what caused Julian Assange to become a fascism apologist? There was a time I respected Wikileaks’s work, but no more.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:06:50pm

re: #241 Moebym

Hello Hatchling! Please, don’t be shy. :)

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:11:21pm

re: #242 Anymouse

So what caused Julian Assange to become a fascism apologist? There was a time I respected Wikileaks’s work, but no more.

I believe that he always was. The anti American bias was always there along with the studious avoidance of Russian secrets. The camouflage began to fray when he had to run from the sexual assault charges.

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Apocalypse  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:12:15pm

re: #242 Anymouse

what caused Julian Assange to become a fascism apologist?

Convenience. Assange is a means-to-an-end type.

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Moebym  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:22:21pm

re: #243 teleskiguy

Thanks for the welcome! Still trying to get used to the commenting system here.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:23:10pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:29:33pm

re: #246 Moebym

Thanks for the welcome! Still trying to get used to the commenting system here.

It’s the best commenting system on the web! Far superior to Disqus and your run-of-the-mill website. Charles has gone to great lengths to make this place super groovy. Welcome!

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:31:55pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dark is GOP Go Team, Go!
Because his father…or something …

I’ve always thought that was a weak excuse. Does he tweet wingnut shit because his dad reads his tweets and will bullyrag him if he doesn’t make his quota? Did his dad read his comments here when he was still around?
I can buy not arguing against family members face-to-face. The tweets and blog comments, I feel, are what he really believes.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:34:55pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

Well, I think I was right.

Yeah, I think you were.

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Anymouse  Dec 23, 2016 • 11:56:42pm

re: #245 Apocalypse

Convenience. Assange is a means-to-an-end type.

What end? The world perhaps, or just the USA?

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:00:58am

Hey Moebym! Any questions you might have about our commenting system is answered on that big green question mark at the bottom of the comment field.

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freetoken  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:24:18am

It’s going to rain:

Christmas Eve

Just heard a big gust outside… more to come later.

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:41:05am

re: #253 freetoken

YAY! Weather!

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:43:08am
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freetoken  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:50:56am

Finished watching the season of Aftermath, though I skipped a couple of episodes in the middle…

This has to be the worst show that NBCU has put on one of their premier stations (SyFy) in a long time.

It’s a trainwreck, which drew me into watching the last two episodes.

Rarely has writing this bad been put on as a series.

It’s so absurd, that if it gets renewed that the only possible next step…

… as the lead actress has been sucked up into a wormhole (?), with all the moon fragments and those flying demons… that the only place she can land on the other side is Oz.

That’s right, make season two in the Land of Oz. It would be more logical, and hilarious.

As one IMDB forum post puts it, this show is The Rapture On Crack.

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Apocalypse  Dec 24, 2016 • 1:10:47am

re: #251 Anymouse

His own ends. He’s all about himself.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 1:27:22am

re: #256 freetoken

Finished watching the season of Aftermath, though I skipped a couple of episodes in the middle…

This has to be the worst show that NBCU has put on one of their premier stations (SyFy) in a long time.

It’s a trainwreck, which drew me into watching the last two episodes.

Rarely has writing this bad been put on as a series.

It’s so absurd, that if it gets renewed that the only possible next step…

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As one IMDB forum post puts it, this show is The Rapture On Crack.

Read this review on the IMDB:

I like cheap shows…………and to put off the haters of Aftermath I give it a 10/10, even though I would normally give it a 5. I am sure that I am not the only one who likes cheap Sci-Fi. In large parts the acting is bad, really bad and so is the editing, which makes the acting even look worse. I am convinced that the writers are emotionally unbalanced if not unstable or they write the scripts stoned or drunk. Maybe it is much simpler and M. Night Shyamalan wrote the whole show under 11 different pseudonyms - on his mobile phone. But who cares. The show is a mindless ride with a story made up from scratch with no depth to it. Something I watch next to other things I do. Did I mention that I like cheap shows and crappy movies?

LOL

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 2:06:30am
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Alyosha  Dec 24, 2016 • 2:17:01am
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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Dec 24, 2016 • 2:38:28am

re: #260 Alyosha

A blue meanie.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 2:57:11am

re: #261 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

A blue meanie.

Dopey Smurf.

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Alyosha  Dec 24, 2016 • 3:01:47am

This is technically good news given the arms race talk from the Trump camp. There isn’t a whole heap of detail so while scrapping the deal might not result in an imminent Iranian bomb if North Korea can get fissile material, Iran can too, I suppose.

When the nuclear deal was agreed on, Iran had more than 100 kilograms of liquid or solid waste containing low-enriched uranium as part of its enrichment activities. Some of the material remains and the documents posted on Friday declare the low-enriched uranium it contains as “unrecoverable” and thereby not part of the 300-kilogram limit.

It’s so fucking insane that the incoming administration would even want to fuck with the deal. But they clearly want a dick-waving war of some kind.

This situation we’re in is… I can’t.
It’s unconscionable. It’s not what rational adults do.

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Alyosha  Dec 24, 2016 • 3:06:07am

re: #263 Alyosha

I’ll also add that the only regional power which wants to see a nuclear Iran (apart from a degraded Syria) is Russia.

But you folks already knew that.
Trump is getting so played and he doesn’t even know it.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:06:09am

re: #264 Alyosha

I’ll also add that the only regional power which wants to see a nuclear Iran (apart from a degraded Syria) is Russia.

But you folks already knew that.
Trump is getting so played and he doesn’t even know it.

Sadly, no one in his Clown Cabinet can see it either, except for Mattis maybe. But as soon as he contradicts Fearless Leader, he’ll be back in retirement.

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Anymouse  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:14:20am

As far as Dark Falcon’s claim he “cannot” go any other way than GOP because of his father, I can’t figure that one out. It seems kind of a strange thing to make up. Perhaps he is concerned for a large inheritance or a job or something? (In that case though, he wouldn’t need to broadcast support for the GOP all over the Internet to satisfy his father.)

I know had anyone in my family chosen to support Mr. Trump and could not be talked out of it, that person would no longer be part of my life. (My favourite cousin was for Mr. Trump, but after I visited her this summer, she switched allegiance to Mrs. Clinton - even put up yard signs for her in a town where nobody puts up yard signs.)

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Alyosha  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:14:23am

re: #265 wheat-dogg

Sadly, no one in his Clown Cabinet can see it either, except for Mattis maybe. But as soon as he contradicts Fearless Leader, he’ll be back in retirement.

So the hope is that Cujo becomes Lassie…

That’s bleak.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:19:37am

re: #267 Alyosha

So the hope is that Cujo becomes Lassie…

That’s bleak.

I’m not optimistic about this particular Cabinet. It’s going to be a continuous cage match among the secretaries and the advisory staff, while Trump sits on his golden commode and tweets contradictory policy statements and insults to his many detractors.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:26:03am

Here’s where to track that jolly old elf, courtesy of NORAD.

noradsanta.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:37:58am

re: #32 teleskiguy

This would make a great shower curtain.

or greeting card for 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:39:58am

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Hey everyone! One thing that has stuck in my mind all day is THE ROCKETTES? Who the fuck has the Rockettes at the inauguration?

Trump. That’s who.

Pitiful.

Because he cannot get anyone else unless they are compelled.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:42:52am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because he cannot get anyone else unless they are compelled.

I hope this rejection of Trump can be maintained for all four years. It will drive him batty.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:45:28am

re: #272 wheat-dogg

I hope this rejection of Trump can be maintained for all four years. It will drive him batty.

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Anymouse  Dec 24, 2016 • 4:52:38am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

LOL. Maybe he’d also like to arm Santa Claus with nukes.

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2016 • 5:21:44am

OT, but the cartoonist at a local tabloid…
Image: ledarredaktionen.jpg

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Bass Reeves  Dec 24, 2016 • 5:44:26am

re: #244 William Lewis

I’m absolutely in agreement with this. Wikileaks showed up on my map with the ‘Collateral Murder’ video, which Assange admitted without any seeming concern that he had deceptively edited to achieve a propaganda purpose. He was being interviewed on the Colbert show, and I think it was only the first or second time I saw Colbert break character, because he couldn’t believe it. Couple that with hiding out to avoid rape charges, aiding a traitor, and a lack of curation so bad even the traitor commented on it, and I almost see why their popularity among the left makes the right think we hate America.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 5:46:27am

re: #276 Bass Reeves

Assange insisited that then “just put the information out there for people to draw their own conclusions”, but that overlooks the basic law of journalism that context and editing matter.

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:07:37am

re: #276 Bass Reeves

Assange and Wikileaks lost me with Collateral Murder years ago. What transpired this election was surprising in it’s outright audaciousness. Assange is now a hero on the right.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:08:51am

Good morning Lizards from a damp western NY. A bit of snow and ice on the ground from earlier in the week, but it’s currently raining.

Time with family is the best time, regardless of the weather.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:09:06am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Assange insisited that then “just put the information out there for people to draw their own conclusions”, but that overlooks the basic law of journalism that context and editing matter.

Wikileaks also fails to corroborate the info they leak. Real journalists always ensure their primary source is reliable, and whenever possible they try to find a second source to be sure the primary source really is reliable. Wikileaks just takes stuff that others have absconded with, and AFAIK only check to make sure the stuff is from a “reliable” source. They leave the corroboration to others, who may or may not even bother with it before they publish.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:10:11am

re: #260 Alyosha

To glom onto the post I made about the death of antibiotics, colloidal silver is an effective topical antimicrobial when used properly. Ingesting large amounts of it prophetically is not that proper use. Hence, blue people. You can ID stupid people by a variety of methods well known here: flying the traitors flag, Nazi tattoos, followers of the rage furby, and blue people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:11:12am

re: #281 Colère Tueur de Lapin

To glom onto the post I made about the death of antibiotics, colloidal silver is an effective topical antimicrobial when used properly. Ingesting large amounts of it prophetically is not that proper use. Hence, blue people. You can ID stupid people by a variety of methods well known here: flying the traitors flag, Nazi tattoos, followers of the rage furby, and blue people.

Just like baking soda enemas against cancer?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:15:02am

re: #281 Colère Tueur de Lapin

To glom onto the post I made about the death of antibiotics, colloidal silver is an effective topical antimicrobial when used properly. Ingesting large amounts of it prophetically is not that proper use. Hence, blue people. You can ID stupid people by a variety of methods well known here: flying the traitors flag, Nazi tattoos, followers of the rage furby, and blue people.

The maxim that “if a little is good, then a lot must be better” does not usually apply to most chemical substances. Too much oxygen can kill you as easily as too much carbon monoxide, for example.

The verdict is still out on chocolate, however.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:19:00am

re: #281 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Prophylactically, not prophetically,

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:20:02am

Graphics win.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:20:16am

re: #193 teleskiguy

I got chastised quite a bit for calling Dark_Falcon “a company man through and through.” I commented frequently when he was around that he would pull the lever for Fuckface Von Clownstick. He always denied he would do as such, and I’d call him out again, only to get downdinged and chastised by some Lizards.

Well, I think I was right.

I think a lot of people having known DF for a long time really wanted to give him a BOD. I’ve told you what my personal breaking point with DF was. But even before then, his constant excuses of the GOP being his father’s party really bugged me. I mean as you guys know, I come from a Democratic family but I know many of you come from Republican/conservative families or even were Republican/conservative yourselves so I couldn’t accept that as an excuse. The problem for DF is that the GOP is his team, no different than the Cubs or Bears are for him or the Steelers and Orioles for me.

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jeffreyw  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:23:04am

Imgur


Good morning!

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:23:53am

It’s as if life has turned into a horrifyingly bad John Waters film.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:26:31am

re: #288 teleskiguy

It is amazing how he describes himself and does not realize it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:29:15am

TBH regarding Assenge, I never saw Wikileaks or him as sympathetic and that was before the sexual charges and of course his actions this election. I actually consider myself more dovish than hawkish as a whole but having taken international relations courses, I have no problem at all with countries wanting to keep certain information confidential not just for national security concerns because the release of said information can and will get people killed- a reason why I’ve never been a Snowden admirer too. Plus, I think WL shows the two facedness of some people who profess to hate things like the Patriot Act and other intrusive government programs and legislation while being a okay with releasing someone’s private emails like John Podesta because they don’t like that he ran a campaign that beat theirs. In the end, I’m for open government but I believe anyone who thinks governments shouldn’t be able to have secrets is a naive idiot and that’s what a lot of WL fans are especially on the left. Those on the right who champion WL only do so because they screwed Clinton which is even worse IMO since it’s not out of naivete that they support what WL does but to screw their opposition. Oh and of course Assenge exopsing himself as a Putin apologist and overall creep doesn’t hurt.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:33:49am

re: #260 Alyosha

I have just learned about Stan Jones, the anti-gay libertarian politician who turned himself permanently blue because of Y2K.

Stan Jones’s misadventure with “colloidal silver” (usually dissolved silver salts) gives me hope that health care batshittery will be self-limiting over time. The true believers will die sooner and in larger number than the rest of us. This may take a lot of time, unless a true catastrophe like nuclear war and the associated medical stress intervenes.
Skepticism and critical thinking are not inherited in a biological sense, but even the dimmest suburban mall spawn could be expected to notice that the aunt who hated vaccines and “big pharma” went toes-up during the “big sickness,” along with assorted cousins, while the one who put her faith in doctors and science is still with us.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:38:58am

re: #249 Jebediah, RBG

I’ve always thought that was a weak excuse. Does he tweet wingnut shit because his dad reads his tweets and will bullyrag him if he doesn’t make his quota? Did his dad read his comments here when he was still around?
I can buy not arguing against family members face-to-face. The tweets and blog comments, I feel, are what he really believes.

Honestly, I don’t know. I mean as you said, it’s easy to get not wanting confrontation. My very best friend is honestly more wingnutty than DF is but I go out of my way not to talk politics with him and our friendship endures. I get it’s different with a parent but then again there have been Republican presidents with children with differing political views and as far as I know, it didn’t make them love their children any less. I always had a theory that DF’s Dad was something of a big wig in the Illinois GOP. Maybe not an elected official but someone with influence. I think you’re right though that the tweets adn blog comments are the real DF. We’d see that mask slip off here sometimes. It’s too bad. I really did for the longest time give DF a BOD because I thought he was a good guy but when I heard about what he said to our own Joe Bacon about his son, that’s when I lost all respect and started going after him rather than just being polite. I never got personal in attacking DF mind you but I did tell him he acted like a partisan hack and I make no apologies for that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:40:18am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

I have no problem at all with countries wanting to keep certain information confidential not just for national security concerns because the release of said information can and will get people killed- a reason why I’ve never been a Snowden admirer too.

Snowden is often compared to Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers, but Ellsberg was a conscientious journalist who took care only to expose illegal activities and not just indiscriminately dump information or deliver it into the hands of foreign governments.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:40:21am
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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:42:53am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:43:19am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Snowden is often compared to Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers, but Ellsberg was a conscientious journalist who took care only to expose illegal activities and not just indiscriminately dump information or deliver it into the hands of foreign governments.

Exactly and honestly it’s frustrating that even Ellsburg himself doesn’t seem to see that. Honestly, there are problems with the NSA, I’m glad Snowden was concerned about that but he handled it poorly and I don’t see him as a hero.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:44:19am

re: #295 teleskiguy

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Hey if we start a nuclear war, it will piss off the liberals, let’s do it!

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:46:50am

Tucker gets his ass handed to him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:47:03am

Doesn’t hurt that people like Snowden, Greenwald, and Assenge are smug af too. I’ve never been a rah rah USA guy but Greenwald pisses me off, he can never find anything right with what our country does and I’ll be the first to agree that we have a long history of poor FP decisions but people like Greenwald never want to acknowledge when we in fact do good too. Not to mention Greenwald never criticizes Putin/Russia and goes out of his way to dismiss criticism of both. Plus his own adopted home of Brazil isn’t exactly perfect.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:47:24am

re: #294 Dave In Austin

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Heh…just posting a link to that as well.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:48:03am

re: #298 darthstar

Tucker gets his ass handed to him.

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When Teen Vogue (no disrespect to their publication) is one of the hardest hitters against the incoming administration, that just says a lot. Glad Tucker got his ass handed to him. I don’t like that smug prick.

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:48:17am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

Snowden is a fucking traitor, treasonous lecherous waste of skin. I hope Putin has his way with him then poisons him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:49:30am

re: #302 teleskiguy

Snowden is a fucking traitor, treasonous lecherous waste of skin. I hope Putin has his way with him then poisons him.

He got people killed through his actions. It really pisses me off that people who demanded that Obama pardon him and that he be treated like a hero ignore that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:51:10am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

He got people killed through his actions. It really pisses me off that people who demanded that Obama pardon him and that he be treated like a hero ignore that.

Exactly, and although he exposed a crime against Americans, that has to be weighed against the other damage he did.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:51:15am

Any empathy or sympathy I might have had for Snowden completely disappeared when he first went to Hong Kong and eventually to Russia.

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:53:52am

I try not to wish ill will, especially death, on other human beings. With Eddie Snowden I’m willing to make an exception. Fucking scumbag.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:54:27am

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exactly, and although he exposed a crime against Americans, that has to be weighed against the other damage he did.

Which is something his admirers and said to say many of them are on the left need to understand. It’s not like Ellsburg as you said. These actions not only put people in danger but got them killed. I really don’t like that naive view “We don’t like our government having secrets.” so everything should be out in the open. In a simpler world, maybe I could see that but this world is anything but simple.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:54:48am

re: #301 HappyWarrior

When Teen Vogue (no disrespect to their publication) is one of the hardest hitters against the incoming administration, that just says a lot. Glad Tucker got his ass handed to him. I don’t like that smug prick.

Also, the ‘just because she looks like she smells good’ comment was great. Ivanka will get celebrated by the media because she will be the sane, successful face of the Trump administration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:56:45am

re: #308 darthstar

Also, the ‘just because she looks like she smells good’ comment was great. Ivanka will get celebrated by the media because she will be the sane, successful face of the Trump administration.

I do not doubt that DT has a very complex and subtle media strategy already planned out, Whatever else you may say about him, he is the master of the Tweet and the talking point and has learned how to get the media and pundits to dance to his tune.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:57:10am

re: #308 darthstar

Also, the ‘just because she looks like she smells good’ comment was great. Ivanka will get celebrated by the media because she will be the sane, successful face of the Trump administration.

Yeah I got a chuckle out of that one.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:59:47am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not doubt that DT has a very complex and subtle media strategy already planned out, Whatever else you may say about him, he is the master of the Tweet and the talking point and has learned how to get the media and pundits to dance to his tune.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:01:01am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not doubt that DT has a very complex and subtle media strategy already planned out, Whatever else you may say about him, he is the master of the Tweet and the talking point and has learned how to get the media and pundits to dance to his tune.

In other words…his tweets are now official US policy statements. So what if they’re 140 characters shot out at 3am? He’s going to be the fucking president and his words matter.

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:02:01am

re: #306 teleskiguy

What did it for me was his fellating Ron Paul and his masturbatory libertarian worldview he broadcasted to the world on the Internet before he stole state secrets and gave them to Glenn Greenwald and Vladimir Putin. He’s a shitweasel Ron Paul butt boy.

OK, enough about traitor Eddie from me. It’s fucking Christmas Eve.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:06:30am

re: #313 teleskiguy

What did it for me was his fellating Ron Paul and his masturbatory libertarian worldview he broadcasted to the world on the Internet before he stole state secrets and gave them to Glenn Greenwald and Vladimir Putin. He’s a shitweasel Ron Paul butt boy.

OK, enough about traitor Edddie from me. It’s fucking Christmas Eve.

Looks like an AC day at Alpine…pros are headed up to blow the ridges.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:10:45am

Me, I’m listening to Christmas music stored on a hard drive.

There’s another expat in town from Romania. He’s married a local girl (an English major from the campus in a different city) and together they have a fast food joint in town. I hung out there this afternoon and evening, enjoying his Christmas music, some nice company and OK food. Ha! But the French fries are good!

Interesting guy. Born in Transylvania — he makes jokes about vampires — but his family moved to Spain when he was still young. His dad is Israeli. He’s lived in Portugal and Italy, and studied Japanese at uni. So, with English he speaks six languages in all. His wife is helping him learn Chinese now.

He’s an IT guy, and game programmer, so the restaurant is his wife’s business while he works online doing what I hope is legal stuff. ;-)

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:10:52am
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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:11:26am

re: #314 darthstar

Looks like an AC day at Alpine…pros are headed up to blow the ridges.

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Let’s hope it’s a 600+ inch year in the Sierras. What with the drought and all.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:13:02am
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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:13:35am

re: #317 teleskiguy

Let’s hope it’s a 600+ inch year in the Sierras. What with the drought and all.

I wouldn’t mind making turns in May.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:18:29am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:19:28am

The city here is tearing up the sidewalks on either side of the main drag between campus and downtown. It’s difficult to say why. The road needs to be widened because traffic is constantly snarled at peak hours, but there are stone paving blocks sitting in stacks alongside the torn up sidewalks, which used to be covered with ceramic tiles. (A very Chinese thing) So I can’t tell what the plan is.

My friends and I could not get a taxi (as usual), and the traffic was so jammed at 4 pm, we decided to hoof it to the restaurant — about 3 km. But with the sidewalks torn up and the rain, we arrived with enough mud on our shoes and pants that you’d have thought we hiked in the woods somewhere.

Going back was almost as bad. No taxis. A driving instructor saw us and offered us a ride, for free!

Nice Christmas gift, if you ask me.

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:19:44am

re: #319 darthstar

I wouldn’t mind making turns in May.

Three winters ago I skied a North Pole run at A-Basin on Mother’s Day. I tried to call my mom on the cell phone mid line for buku Gnar points (Mom Line is worth thousands of Gnar points) but I couldn’t get a signal. Darn!

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steve_davis  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:22:59am

re: #5 teleskiguy

Looks like Carrie Fisher is going to make it.

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i’m kind of guessing that the cocaine abuse probably did not do wonders for her heart. but i hope she has a full recovery.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:27:36am

Sarah Kendzior connects the dots.

It looks like Putin groomed Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:29:49am

re: #324 wheat-dogg

Sarah Kendzior connects the dots.

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It looks like Putin groomed Trump.

Didn’t realize he had been enamored with Russia even in the Soviet days.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:30:44am

Celine Dion has told the Trump people ixnay on the inauguration-ay.
palmerreport.com

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:31:05am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:33:08am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Didn’t realize he had been enamored with Russia even in the Soviet days.

Trump has no real ideology other than making money. Honestly, he has no idea what makes Russia and China less than savory allies.

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:34:14am

re: #294 Dave In Austin

Barf.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:36:11am

Ouch!

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:37:36am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:38:33am

re: #330 wheat-dogg

Ouch!

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Hard to believe that movie is nearly 20 years old. I remember seeing it around this time of year in theaters.

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:42:17am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Hard to believe that movie is nearly 20 years old. I remember seeing it around this time of year in theaters.

I saw that movie on New Year’s Day, I was super hungover, fell asleep for the whole expository part of the film. I woke up and the ship had just hit the iceberg. I missed all the stupid storytelling and rejoined the film when it was actually interesting. Heh!

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teleskiguy  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:45:57am

Titanic. Most overrated film of the 90s.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:49:19am

Someone at Arby’s has a sense of humor.

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electrotek  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:52:21am

Right wing idiots still assume that honor killing is sanctioned solely in Islam but ignore other honor killing tragedies that don’t involve Muslims in the region:

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:55:21am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Hard to believe that movie is nearly 20 years old. I remember seeing it around this time of year in theaters.

I saw it again in the theater in 3D years later. It’s one of those movies you can watch twice, and then never again.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 7:58:44am

re: #334 teleskiguy

Titanic. Most overrated film of the 90s.

L.A. Confidential should’ve won Best Picture Oscar that year. It was robbed by Titanic.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:03:01am

So maybe that letter from Putin to Trump may have been more grooming of the Useful Idiot.

Trump is so easily impressed, it’s not hard to imagine the Kremlin — or their operatives in the USA — cooking up a congratulatory letter to “His Excellency” then waited for his inevitable self-congratulatory, gee-whiz tweets.

I’m also guessing their translators and foreign ministry people know that US presidents are not addressed as “his excellency.” They chose the words deliberately to impress Donnie.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:05:09am

re: #339 wheat-dogg

So maybe that letter from Putin to Trump may have been more grooming of the Useful Idiot.

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Trump is so easily impressed, it’s not hard to imagine the Kremlin — or their operatives in the USA — cooking up a congratulatory letter to “His Excellency” then waiting for his inevitable self-congratulatory, gee-whiz tweets.

I’m also guessing their translators and foreign ministry people know that US presidents are not addressed as “his excellency.” They chose the words deliberately to impress Donnie.

Anyone in the Russian Foreign Ministry would certainly know that an American President is never referred to as “his excellency” in a formal diplomatic letter.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:11:12am

re: #340 Dr Lizardo

Anyone in the Russian Foreign Ministry would certainly know that an American President is never referred to as “his excellency” in a formal diplomatic letter.

The correct form of address is “The Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United States.” I found within 10 seconds on the Intertubes.

Trump was punk’d

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:15:30am

re: #341 wheat-dogg

The correct form of address is “The Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United States.” I found within 10 seconds on the Intertubes.

Trump was punk’d

Certainly - in Trump’s case, if you wanted to address him as a future president, it’d be “The Honorable Donald Trump, President-Elect of the United States”. I would expect anyone in a European foreign ministry to know this simple fact. I don’t know about other leaders, but I do know that the Pope is addressed as “His Excellency”.

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:16:20am

In which a delightfully saavy young lady wipes the floor with Fucker Carlson:
Teen Vogue Writer Battles Tucker Carlson: ‘You’re Actually Being a Partisan Hack’

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:21:12am

re: #343 BigPapa

In which a delightfully saavy young lady wipes the floor with Fucker Carlson:
Teen Vogue Writer Battles Tucker Carlson: ‘You’re Actually Being a Partisan Hack’

Teen Vogue. I’m still shaking my damn head. Whoda thunk it?

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:23:02am

Ya, crazy. He tried to patronize her at the end by implying that if you write about Ariana Grande and thigh high boots you shouldn’t discuss politics. She didn’t let him get away with it.

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allegro  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:24:11am

re: #344 wheat-dogg

Teen Vogue. I’m still shaking my damn head. Whoda thunk it?

I think we will be seeing a number of surprising heroes emerge in the next year.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:25:44am

re: #342 Dr Lizardo

Certainly - in Trump’s case, if you wanted to address him as a future president, it’d be “The Honorable Donald Trump, President-Elect of the United States”. I would expect anyone in a European foreign ministry to know this simple fact. I don’t know about other leaders, but I do know that the Pope is addressed as “His Excellency”.

Wikipedia says here that some foreign nations and the UN sometimes address the POTUS as “his excellency” but I don’t see the Pope mentioned. I think the preferred form is “His Holiness, Pope Whatever LXIV”

Or Frank. I think the current pope would be OK with that.

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jeffreyw  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:27:22am

Imgur


Christmas tree? Haven’t seen it.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:30:44am

re: #345 BigPapa

Ya, crazy. He tried to patronize her at the end by implying that if you write about Ariana Grande and thigh high boots you shouldn’t discuss politics. She didn’t let him get away with it.

Carlson is every inch a stuck-up, entitled white boy who figures “girls” who write about fashion and pop stars must be airheads. I bet in college he got no dates.

I had a female co-worker once who was intellectually sharp as a tack — went to some high-falutin’ university somewhere — but was visually a knockout. It was fun watching her make complete fools of the guys trying to chat her up at bars. Often, they had no idea what had hit them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:30:48am

2016

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:31:48am

re: #350 Unshaken Defiance

Instead of “drain the swamp,” it’s “flood the sewers.”

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:31:49am

re: #347 wheat-dogg

Wikipedia says here that some foreign nations and the UN sometimes address the POTUS as “his excellency” but I don’t see the Pope mentioned. I think the preferred form is “His Holiness, Pope Whatever LXIV”

Or Frank. I think the current pope would be OK with that.

Interesting. I’ve never heard a US President addressed as “his excellency”.

Heh. “Frank”. LOL.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:34:34am

re: #352 Dr Lizardo

Interesting. I’ve never heard a US President addressed as “his excellency”.

Heh. “Frank”. LOL.

Frank the Pope recently proclaimed that the Big Bang Theory and evolution were scientifically valid and did not contradict the teachings of the Church. If there was any reaction from the Religious Right in the USA, I missed it.

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allegro  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:35:56am

re: #353 wheat-dogg

Frank the Pope recently proclaimed that the Big Bang Theory and evolution were scientifically valid and did not contradict the teachings of the Church. If there was any reaction from the Religious Right in the USA, I missed it.

From my understanding, Frank is just another heathen, no better than a filthy atheist to the fundies.

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lockjawcanbefun  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:36:36am
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Jayleia  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:41:39am

re: #349 wheat-dogg

So, she was THIS girl…

xkcd.com

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Belafon  Dec 24, 2016 • 8:45:57am

re: #259 teleskiguy

I’m also curious how much that constant news has affected us on the left, even those of us that try to make sure we getc our facts straight. Most things that happen are just statistical noise and won’t have much affect on history. But we eat up every detail and fret over them.

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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2016 • 9:02:59am

Welp, 2016 has thrown the goddamn TV through the hotel window and landed it in the fucking swimming pool.

Not even the venerable Status Quo is immune. RIP, Rick Parfitt.

Status Quo guitarist Rick Parfitt has died in hospital in Spain aged 68, his manager has said.
He died from a severe infection after going to hospital on Thursday following complications to a shoulder injury.
Parfitt’s musical partnership with Francis Rossi, which spanned five decades, made Status Quo one of British rock’s most enduring acts.
He had been due to launch a solo career with an album and autobiography planned for 2017.
Status Quo found global success with hits including Rockin’ All Over The World.

Here’s how we briefly knew The Quo in the States. In the UK, they went on to re-invent themselves as a boogie band and became a national treasure.

status quo - pictures of matchstick men - enhanced sound

Fuck you, 2016.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2016 • 9:35:49am

Om nom nom nom…

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Happy Xmas Eve…it’s a lovely day here.

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mmmirele  Dec 24, 2016 • 9:43:48am

re: #281 Colère Tueur de Lapin

To glom onto the post I made about the death of antibiotics, colloidal silver is an effective topical antimicrobial when used properly. Ingesting large amounts of it prophetically is not that proper use. Hence, blue people. You can ID stupid people by a variety of methods well known here: flying the traitors flag, Nazi tattoos, followers of the rage furby, and blue people.

I knew someone who did colloidal silver in huge amounts a few years ago and she turned blue for a while. She looks more normal now, but she was seriously blue there for a time. For the record, she fits the profile of a colloidal silver user. She believes every conspiracy theory that comes down the pike and is constantly posting them to her Facebook. I keep putting responses that usually consist of, “Heidrun, you took this from a fake news source. Here’s what really happened (insert link).” I finally gave up last week.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:04:34am

A little rockabilly for your Christmas.

Pass That Bottle - The Devil’s Daughters AZ Rockabilly

Enjoy.

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sagehen  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:09:47am

re: #315 wheat-dogg

Me, I’m listening to Christmas music stored on a hard drive.

There’s another expat in town from Romania. He’s married a local girl (an English major from the campus in a different city) and together they have a fast food joint in town. I hung out there this afternoon and evening, enjoying his Christmas music, some nice company and OK food. Ha! But the French fries are good!

Christmas dinner at a Chinese restaurant? You know that makes you Jewish…

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Jayleia  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:38:36am

Oh, and BTW, D_F seems to have become a “rational Russian apologist”

“Joked” about turning 30mm cannons on striking workers, although he did it in his usual way that makes Spock look like Jon Stewart…

And he retweeted THIS FUCKING GUY

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retired cynic  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:40:12am

re: #363 Jayleia

Boy, that makes me sad. I tried to not come down on him, but this is just pathetic.

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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:42:33am

And now, Frank Murray has passed. The Pogues’ tour manager, he was the guy who brought Shane McGowan and Kirsty McColl together for what the Pogues refer to as their ‘retirement plan’ - the wonderful ‘Fairytale of New York.’

The Pogues Featuring Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York (Official Video)

I’m about to just bah humbug the fuck out today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:46:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:48:28am
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Jayleia  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:49:19am

And also, one more from D_F

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:51:31am

Nuclear Winter Humor:

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wrenchwench  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:58:14am
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stpaulbear  Dec 24, 2016 • 10:59:47am

re: #358 makeitstop

Welp, 2016 has thrown the goddamn TV through the hotel window and landed it in the fucking swimming pool.

Not even the venerable Status Quo is immune. RIP, Rick Parfitt.

Here’s how we briefly knew The Quo in the States. In the UK, they went on to re-invent themselves as a boogie band and became a national treasure.

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Fuck you, 2016.

2016 has sucked for musician deaths (among other things), but given the age of the early rock pioneers, it’s only going to get worse. I know that many of us listen to music from the 60’s thru the 80’s and beyond as if it had come out yesterday. It’s a drag to have our memories come face to face with how old everyone has gotten and to realize how old we’ve gotten.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:01:05am

I don’t know if this has already been posted, but it made me LOL despite the fact that I found some portions mildly offensive:

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:07:31am
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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:12:41am

re: #368 Jayleia

And also, one more from D_F

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D_F sees teams, not individuals: If your team wins, you’re a champ; if your team loses, you’re a failure. No matter how many touchdowns/goals/[insert your favorite sports metaphor] individual team members make, they’re only to be praised if they’re on your team—if they’re on the other team, they deserve nothing but shaming & derision.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:12:57am
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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:13:41am

re: #371 stpaulbear

2016 has sucked for musician deaths (among other things), but given the age of the early rock pioneers, it’s only going to get worse. I know that many of us listen to music from the 60’s thru the 80’s and beyond as if it had come out yesterday. It’s a drag to have our memories come face to face with how old everyone has gotten and to realize how old we’ve gotten.

Point taken. Getting old sucks overall. And watching a bunch of my heroes fall really sucks.

That’s life, I get it. Doesn’t mean I have to like it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:14:04am
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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:16:59am

Looking at the Twitter page on Carlson getting beat down by Teen Vogue writer, many of the tweets say the same exact words:

Tucker Carlson DESTROYS Moron Journalist Lauren Duca on Ivanka Trump Harassed on Plane

It’s like they’re bots.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:17:27am

re: #19 lawhawk

${god|money}

DEVO: Head Like A Hole

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retired cynic  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:17:45am

re: #378 BigPapa

They’re bots, one way or the other.

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wrenchwench  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:18:30am

re: #377 Charles Johnson

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Breviceps gibbosus was forced into it.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:18:41am

Merry Merry all! I hope all the Little Green Footballers are enjoying a great Holiday season for whatever reason you celebrate and enjoy.

I’m enjoying a quiet weekend of doing nothing but playing music and writing songs and eating some foods I usually stay away from. What is a holiday if you can’t indulge?

One celebration and gift in a way is having watched the last two nights of HNL hockey and seeing the Columbus Blue Jackets move into first place in their division and now actually leading the entire league in points, record, and just about all meaningful statistics. Truly the best the team has been since joining the league…hopefully they keep the pace up.

It would be fun to meet klys’ favorite team, San Jose, in the Stanely cup. (Oh I hope I didn’t just upset the hockey gods with that).

And who knows, I might get to witness those lowly Cleveland Browns win a game today. They are currently leading San Diego and might be heading to some more points. Go Browns…you can win one game right…just one?

Just got off the phone with my one brother out in Arizona to wish he and his wife a nice Christmas. That is always both a good thing and a sad thing for me. He is suffering from Parkinson’s Disease and not only has it been debilitating for him, it is hard to speak with him on the phone as even his voice is affected.

The real bummer is I would so much love to go see him, but my own past couple of years has made that tough economically. I haven’t seen him in a few years and his health has gone from great to not in that time. But he was at least upbeat, so that is a good thing.

And not to ruin the holiday, I’ve laid off political news for a few days to not have to even think about it. Even staying away from some of it here. I guess it is a way to gear up for what is coming. Trump is, unfortunately, still going to be there after New Years, so I am not going to let it bother me now.

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:19:07am

re: #380 retired cynic

They’re bots, one way or the other.

yes, true

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:19:18am

re: #380 retired cynic

They’re bots, one way or the other.

You took the words right out of my mouth. :)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:19:25am
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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:20:03am

re: #381 wrenchwench

Breviceps gibbosus was forced into it.

Yeah, he doesn’t look any too happy about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:21:17am

re: #385 Charles Johnson

Automatic blocking function: activated.

but it’s a symbol of peace!

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:21:32am

re: #385 Charles Johnson

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What the heck is it with them & anime? That’s one of the most bizarre aspects to me.

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wrenchwench  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:22:18am

re: #386 CuriousLurker

Yeah, he doesn’t look any too happy about it.

I think Breviceps gibbosus likes to look like that. When that’s your name, you can look however you want.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:25:19am

re: #363 Jayleia

Oh, and BTW, D_F seems to have become a “rational Russian apologist”

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Well, I guess we will never see Dark_Falcon again. He’s done caught Trumpitis. Figures. So many people played that game of “I don’t know if I can vote for Trump” and then turned for him anyway.

Sad!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:28:04am
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Jayleia  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:28:50am

re: #388 CuriousLurker

Anime is what they use for…”entertainment”, if you know what I mean, because of unrealistic and therefore unobtainable “attributes”. So it serves almost as a way of introducing each other…

“Oh, you haven’t been laid either”
“Cool, we think alike!”

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:29:08am

re: #370 wrenchwench

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You can be counted on Wrench. What would Christmas eve be without a Santa Frog?

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:30:16am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

😂😂😂😂😂😂

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:31:31am

re: #392 Jayleia

Anime is what they use for…”entertainment”, if you know what I mean, because of unrealistic and therefore unobtainable “attributes”. So it serves almost as a way of introducing each other…

“Oh, you haven’t been laid either”
“Cool, we think alike!”

Ah, okay. Eww… 🤢

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Jayleia  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:35:38am

re: #395 CuriousLurker

You should have known that the reason would be “deplorable”…

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nines09  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:35:49am
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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:36:00am
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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:37:04am

re: #397 nines09

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Dead…from eating at Arby’s??? /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:37:22am

Snowmobiles vanquished, they are now running victory laps around the house.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:39:18am

re: #395 CuriousLurker

Ah, okay. Eww… 🤢

Anime babes are all they’ll ever have. I get the feeling a lot of these types are like American versions of the hikikomori.

en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:41:39am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:42:24am

re: #401 Dr Lizardo

Anime babes are all they’ll ever have. I get the feeling a lot of these types are like American versions of the hikikomori.

en.wikipedia.org

Gives them lots of time to spend in the troll armies of the world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:43:04am
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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:44:29am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

Eclectic Brotha is one of my favorite follows.

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calochortus  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:52:46am

A bright and cheery Happy Christmas, Merry Hanukkah, Nice Weekend (as applicable) to everyone here.

I’ll be sort of in and out today as I’m prepping for Christmas Eve dinner for a few choice members of my friends and family. I’ll spend the afternoon doing the prep on and off, so almost everything will be ready before the guests arrive and I can actually eat the appetizers and chat with people rather than drinking wine alone in the kitchen while everyone else chats. (There is something to be said for being left alone in the kitchen with a bottle, but I can do that any time.)

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TedStriker  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:57:52am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

If the president elect feels people should lose with dignity he should tell the Confederate states to get over the Civil War already.

— Boney Hurdle (@eclecticbrotha) December 24, 2016

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Moebym  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:01:29pm

A cartoon from years back. I happen to think it describes pretty well the situation we’ve been in, and will be in for a little over four years.

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BeachDem  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:01:46pm

Yeah—let’s normalize these freaks because “economic anxiety”

“We are planning an armed protest in Whitefish,” Anglin wrote. “Montana has extremely liberal open carry laws, so my lawyer is telling me we can easily march through the center of the town carrying high-powered rifles. I myself am planning on being there to lead the protest, which has been dubbed ‘March on Whitefish.’”

According to Anglin, he claims he will be busing in “skinheads from the Bay Area,” adding, “Currently, my guys say we are going to be able to put together about 200 people to participate in the march, which will be against Jews, Jewish businesses and everyone who supports either.”

rawstory.com

71 and sunny here at the beach. Not really helping my mood, which remains downbeat and despondent. I’m not much of a holiday person, so have declined to engage and am staying home and watching movies.

Still wake up each morning and need a few minutes to remember that the election is over and we actually elected the yam as president. I still find it incomprehensible.

Hope all of you celebrating however and whatever have a wonderful time, and I thank you all for maintaining some semblance of sanity as we try to deal with our country going mad.

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:04:47pm

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Jayleia  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:06:35pm

re: #409 BeachDem

Ah, nazis, forget really biting satire…

Woody Allen on Nazis

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:18:09pm

You can’t make this stuff up:

It’s real—here’s Mary Alice’s actual tweet. Some of the the replies are pretty funny:

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Moebym  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:19:34pm

re: #412 CuriousLurker

You can’t make this stuff up:

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This is why we can’t have nice things. :/

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:19:55pm

re: #374 CuriousLurker

D_F sees teams, not individuals: If your team wins, you’re a champ; if your team loses, you’re a failure. No matter how many touchdowns/goals/[insert your favorite sports metaphor] individual team members make, they’re only to be praised if they’re on your team—if they’re on the other team, they deserve nothing but shaming & derision.

Spot on CL.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:20:43pm

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kajing.

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wrenchwench  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:21:20pm

One dysfunctional family Christmas tidbit?

I got a little package from my estranged mother [boy, is she estranged]. A set of postcards of the national parks. At first I was thinking…a hint to write once in a while? Nah, what I have to say to her must be put in an envelope. Then I checked to see if there was a note or a card with it. Nope. OK, I get it. It’s a joke. 12 cards, with no card! Hahahah!

And no stollen yet. Are we a WEEK further from Germany than Chicago is?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:21:39pm

re: #412 CuriousLurker

You can’t make this stuff up:

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Jesus Christ, these people do nothing but whine.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:23:11pm

re: #413 Moebym

This is why we can’t have nice things. :/

Indeed. A follow-up, LOL:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:23:27pm

By the way if DF wants to play “Are you willing” game, is he willing to pay more taxes for Trump’s nuke increase? It’s honestly sad to see him become a Russia/Putin apologist though. He may be a GOP hack but I thought that the Putin love was a bridge too far for him but I guess he’s going along with the many in his party who now have a more positive favorable impression of Putin since he ruined the “cackling one.”

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Cheechako  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:25:01pm

re: #409 BeachDem

I’ve been to Whitefish, Montana. IIRC, there’s not that many Jews and Jewish businesses in town. Is this “demonstration” a hoax?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:25:09pm

re: #418 CuriousLurker

Indeed. A follow-up, LOL:

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I’m someone who celebrates Christmas and really enjoys it but I’m not going to be offended if someone doesn’t wish me a Merry Christmas. I’ll be just as pleased with Happy Holidays and hell technically happy holidays is true since tehre’s a big holiday literally the week after Christmas too. Even Bing Crosby was singing Happy Holiday. It must be nice to be bothered by choice of words than the many people who don’t have anyone to enjoy the holiday with this time of year.

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calochortus  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:26:35pm

re: #418 CuriousLurker

Indeed. A follow-up, LOL:

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Really. How sad is someone’s life that other people having less enjoyment will make it seem better?

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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:30:00pm

re: #420 Cheechako

I’ve been to Whitefish, Montana. IIRC, there’s not that many Jews and Jewish businesses in town. Is this “demonstration” a hoax?

Richard Spencer is from there, and his mother is taking heat for allowing Spencer to keep his Nazi HQ there.

So naturally, it’s those damn Joos.
/

Also - seen on Facebook:

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:30:19pm

re: #339 wheat-dogg

So maybe that letter from Putin to Trump may have been more grooming of the Useful Idiot.

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Trump is so easily impressed, it’s not hard to imagine the Kremlin — or their operatives in the USA — cooking up a congratulatory letter to “His Excellency” then waited for his inevitable self-congratulatory, gee-whiz tweets.

I’m also guessing their translators and foreign ministry people know that US presidents are not addressed as “his excellency.” They chose the words deliberately to impress Donnie.

No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

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Jayleia  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:34:43pm

re: #420 Cheechako

I’ve been to Whitefish, Montana. IIRC, there’s not that many Jews and Jewish businesses in town. Is this “demonstration” a hoax?

They’re doing it there to avoid backlash…except if you know how they think, they didn’t think that through…

If they went into say, Borough Park in NYC, things would turn out differently and they’d get there asses handed to them, or they’d have to back down. Either way, they’d be “cucked” as they say.

By doing it there, where there’s almost no Jewish population, they basically “cuck” themselves beforehand and announce to the world that not only are they “cucks”, but they know it.

GODDAMMIT. I HATE UNDERSTANDING HOW THOSE FREAKS THINK! ANOTHER FUCKING REASON TO HATE THIS DUMPSTER FIRE OF A YEAR!

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:34:59pm

re: #421 HappyWarrior

I’m someone who celebrates Christmas and really enjoys it but I’m not going to be offended if someone doesn’t wish me a Merry Christmas. I’ll be just as pleased with Happy Holidays and hell technically happy holidays is true since tehre’s a big holiday literally the week after Christmas too. Even Bing Crosby was singing Happy Holiday. It must be nice to be bothered by choice of words than the many people who don’t have anyone to enjoy the holiday with this time of year.

THIS. Or people who are homeless, hungry, ill, etc.

I’m still trying to figure out the “go on to another country” part. Do all the Jews have to go to Israel? Hindus & Sikhs to India? Taoists to China? I guess Buddhists & Muslims can choose from several countries, but where in the hell are atheists supposed to go?

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BeachDem  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:35:55pm

re: #420 Cheechako

I’ve been to Whitefish, Montana. IIRC, there’s not that many Jews and Jewish businesses in town. Is this “demonstration” a hoax?

Not sure if it’s a hoax, but it is definitely a farce. They’re going because somebody hurt Nazi Richard Spencer’s feelings (or, I guess, more precisely his mother’s) for criticizing mom for letting Nazi sonnyboy run his biz from her property.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:37:52pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:38:13pm

H*ck with Santa, I’m hoping for a visit from A Mom Anon. Here, not at my house, although that would be OK too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:40:00pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:40:30pm

re: #410 BigPapa

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wrenchwench  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:41:37pm

re: #426 CuriousLurker

THIS. Or people who are homeless, hungry, ill, etc.

I’m still trying to figure out the “go on to another country” part. Do all the Jews have to go to Israel? Hindus & Sikhs to India? Taoists to China? I guess Buddhists & Muslims can choose from several countries, but where in the hell are atheists supposed to go?

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Wrong house = wrong country to some people.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:43:54pm

re: #431 Stanley Sea

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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:47:52pm

re: #429 wrenchwench

H*ck with Santa, I’m hoping for a visit from A Mom Anon. Here, not at my house, although that would be OK too.

I miss Mom. She’s probably got both hands full right about now.

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:50:51pm

re: #420 Cheechako

I’ve been to Whitefish, Montana. IIRC, there’s not that many Jews and Jewish businesses in town. Is this “demonstration” a hoax?

That’s because they’re fucking wussyies. Try that shit in Brooklyn.

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allegro  Dec 24, 2016 • 12:59:11pm

re: #426 CuriousLurker

THIS. Or people who are homeless, hungry, ill, etc.

I’m still trying to figure out the “go on to another country” part. Do all the Jews have to go to Israel? Hindus & Sikhs to India? Taoists to China? I guess Buddhists & Muslims can choose from several countries, but where in the hell are atheists supposed to go?

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Straight to hell.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 24, 2016 • 2:22:50pm

re: #426 CuriousLurker

THIS. Or people who are homeless, hungry, ill, etc.

I’m still trying to figure out the “go on to another country” part. Do all the Jews have to go to Israel? Hindus & Sikhs to India? Taoists to China? I guess Buddhists & Muslims can choose from several countries, but where in the hell are atheists supposed to go?

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To hell?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 24, 2016 • 6:04:40pm

re: #362 sagehen

Christmas dinner at a Chinese restaurant? You know that makes you Jewish…

I’m from Long Island. I have honorary status. /

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 24, 2016 • 11:35:11pm

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