An Awesome New Track From Knower: "More Than Just Another Try"

An Awesome New Track From Knower: “More Than Just Another Try”

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I could be wrong, but I have a strong suspicion Louis Cole and Genevieve Artadi were inspired by Jacob Collier for this gorgeous multi-tracked performance. One of my favorite new bands, always coming up with surprising new things.

song written by Louis Cole, sung by Genevieve Artadi (26 big old layerz of voice)
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More than just another try
I finally got it right
More than just a dream this time
My eyes are open wide

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Written, Mixed, Mastered: Louis Cole, KNOWER
Licensing/Management: alliz@SongololoMusic.com

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nines09 Dec 25, 2016 • 6:42:57pm

The car’s missing. So’s the dog. There’s blood on your hands. You hear a phone ringing. It’s not yours. Neither are your pants. Is that sirens? Papa Johns. Better Ingredients. Better Pizza.

You’re just waking up. It’s 3pm. Your mouth reeks of semen & gin. The speed is gone. So is your family.it’s Xmas at ArbysNo godsNo Santas

— Nihilist Arby’s (@nihilist_arbys) December 25, 2016

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retired cynic Dec 25, 2016 • 6:50:30pm

I think you are right. This has a sweeter sound than Collier, but it does sound inspired by his work.

Charles Johnson Dec 25, 2016 • 7:05:35pm

@ParkerMolloy The poster boy for the “Slowly But Surely Backsliding Never Trumper.”

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 26, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 25, 2016 • 7:12:15pm

2016 was directed by me.

— George RR Martin (@GRRM) January 14, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 25, 2016 • 7:13:05pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(parody account, just case you couldn’t figure it out)

Scout Dec 25, 2016 • 7:13:33pm

Submitted without comment — since none is necessary.

Donald Trump claims it wasn’t OK to say “Merry Christmas” under President Obama.

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 25, 2016 • 7:17:45pm

We only rate dogs. Please don’t send in other things like this very good Christmas tree. Thank you… 13/10 pic.twitter.com/rvSANEsQZJ

— WeRateDogs™ (@dog_rates) December 26, 2016

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@jaketapper pic.twitter.com/lRWKgtPGVK

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 25, 2016 • 7:19:33pm

It’s not fair to pit Teen Vogue against Fox News. One’s a source of serious political opinion. The other is Fox News https://t.co/MYfkGqhLQr

— Richard Hine (@richardhine) December 24, 2016

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William Lewis Dec 25, 2016 • 7:25:16pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Only $5 a year to subscribe. I’m tempted just to encourage them.

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 25, 2016 • 7:28:10pm

Happy Henukkah/Merry Chickmas pic.twitter.com/UZ0yYSArrM

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist) Dec 25, 2016 • 7:33:02pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not fair to pit Teen Vogue against Fox News. One’s a source of serious political opinion. The other is Fox News https://t.co/MYfkGqhLQr

— Richard Hine (@richardhine) December 24, 2016

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Only one has an audience inclined uncritically accept whatever they are told. And it’s not the one largely composed of teenaged girls.

TedStriker Dec 25, 2016 • 7:38:29pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

2016 was directed by me.

— George RR Martin (@GRRM) January 14, 2016

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

(parody account, just case you couldn’t figure it out)

Well, it’s not far from the truth…

Belafon Dec 25, 2016 • 7:47:21pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

I might change my twitter bio to read “Until I read it in Teen Vogue, I won’t consider it real news.”

Interesting Times Dec 25, 2016 • 7:48:01pm

Welcome to one-party rule, America :(

NEW tonight: Trump to inherit 100+ court vacancies, plans to reshape federal judiciary. My latest w/ @scotusreporter https://t.co/xVzuMtA1SO

— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) December 26, 2016

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After 8 years of GOP obstruction:

- White House
- Senate
- House
- SCOTUS
- 66% of governorships
- 70% of state houses
- 100+ fed judges https://t.co/bTdgDL3FTk

— The Baxter Bean (@TheBaxterBean) December 26, 2016

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Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 7:49:48pm

The piece Mr. Johnson presented here is hauntingly beautiful. Thank you.

Reposted from the previous thread, because I am slow and didn’t see the LGF world had moved on without me:

My wife is napping; she wants me to wake her up in an hour, as the Christmas goose will be ready then. Yum.

re: #157 Charles Johnson

On Assange praising Trump for facilitating change: The Nazis, Khmer Rouge, Lenin, Rwanda, and many other places “facilitated change.” That ain’t a good thing by itself. Hey though, at least fascism is an ethos, man.

re: #158 mmmirele

Yeah, but then you have to go down to the DMV. I dunno what it’s like in other states, but in Arizona, it’s like the eighth circle of hell. Seriously, it’s easier to get a passport. I had to get a new picture for my driver’s license in 2014 (which doesn’t expire until I turn 65, it’s Arizona) and it was horrible, horrible. It also didn’t help that I had put it off until after my father died after weeks of dying and a week in a coma, so I was not in the mood to put up with bureaucratic nonsense, and the DMV is full of that. Getting the passport last month was, by comparison, much less of a hassle (although it did cost a lot more).

In my county, getting a driver’s license is only permitted on Mondays for a couple hours. (It is not due to voter suppression laws, it is due to a county with only five thousand people.) They cannot make a license at the county office: They send your information to Lincoln, and the state DMV mails you a license back. I could go to a larger city in another county (such as Scottsbluff) and get one issued right away though.

Getting passports was much tougher; the county only looks at such paperwork a couple times a month - the county clerk does not process it; the county judge’s clerk does (not sure why that is). It took weeks to get an appointment to fill in the application and several more weeks to get the passports back. (Our birth certificates did not come back until two months after we went to Europe.)

re: #167 Romantic Heretic

Oh, I’m way too familiar with that.

My wife’s in a wheelchair as well. Last year they insisted she walk through the scanner, and then left her standing while they shot the breeze. If it hadn’t been for an alert security guard she’d have fallen and been hurt.

She was on her way back to the States and so I couldn’t accompany her through the departure area. If I had those people would have had to listen to me describe their physical, intellectual and moral shortcomings in intricate detail.

I use the Queen’s English when I’m truly pissed.

My wife was left standing in a security gate in Frankfort entering a flight to Stuttgart. The scanner went off for some reason, and the German police pretty much sealed off the area. They left my wife standing (without a cane) while they ran hand scanners over her, which triggered on her foot.

Off came the shoe; nothing in the shoe or her foot. Left her standing around more, in one shoe, while I complained to get her a chair (they had me sequestered to the side). They finally got a supervisor of some sort in that let her and me go.

The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist) Dec 25, 2016 • 7:52:51pm

re: #14 Interesting Times

Yep. The GOP persued an amazingly cynical strategy of absolute obstruction, and the voters have rewarded them for it. I don’t know how you fight that, I really don’t

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 7:58:15pm

re: #16 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Yep. The GOP persued an amazingly cynical strategy of absolute obstruction, and the voters have rewarded them for it. I don’t know how you fight that, I really don’t

The GOP’s strategy has been going on for decades. (Reagan? Goldwater? McCarthy?)

The only way to counter it is a multi-decade campaign from the Democrats. You might keep hearing that “the GOP will pay a price for this or that” (pick a hobby horse: Government shutdowns, judicial obstruction, Congressional obstruction), but no one high up in the party comes up with a plan to make them pay that price.

It has been said about Democrats that they are like herding cats. We need a plan. Whatever is passing for a plan now isn’t working. Competing in fifty states might help.

Interesting Times Dec 25, 2016 • 8:01:16pm

re: #16 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Yep. The GOP persued an amazingly cynical strategy of absolute obstruction, and the voters have rewarded them for it. I don’t know how you fight that, I really don’t

I think we have to accept the fact that a horrendously large percentage of voters are:

a) ignorant
b) misinformed
c) have the attention span and memory of a gnat

That being the case, you have to campaign accordingly. Obama’s biggest mistake was giving the American public far, far, far more credit than they deserved. He seemed to think they’d figure out GOP evil all on their own, but they obviously didn’t. They obviously treated the election like a sleazy reality show, rewarding the most outrageous, trollish (but entertaining) behavior.

It has shades of 2004, where some voters, even if they didn’t buy the Swiftboat smears, thought less of John Kerry for not fighting back.

What I so dearly wish had happened was that, during the Democratic convention, they’d had speeches and video montages galore highlighting GOP obstruction and the damage it did, and - instead of all the trump-bashing - bashed the GOP itself, stressing over and over and over again the importance of voting for Dems up and down the ballot.

Too many voters just plain aren’t smart enough to figure this out on their own.

CuriousLurker Dec 25, 2016 • 8:02:06pm

Quick drive-by question: Game of Thrones—the book(s) or the videos?

Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 25, 2016 • 8:05:03pm

re: #17 Anymouse

The GOP’s strategy has been going on for decades. (Reagan? Goldwater? McCarthy?)

The only way to counter it is a multi-decade campaign from the Democrats. You might keep hearing that “the GOP will pay a price for this or that” (pick a hobby horse: Government shutdowns, judicial obstruction, Congressional obstruction), but no one high up in the party comes up with a plan to make them pay that price.

It has been said about Democrats that they are like herding cats. We need a plan. Whatever is passing for a plan now isn’t working. Competing in fifty states might help.

There’s an organization called “Alice” (after ALEX) that’s working on that.

Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 25, 2016 • 8:06:24pm

re: #19 CuriousLurker

Quick drive-by question: Game of Thrones—the book(s) or the videos?

I couldn’t get past the first season, or more than halfway through the first book. There’s always Tolkien… :)

CuriousLurker Dec 25, 2016 • 8:09:53pm

re: #21 Resistance Is Not Futile

I couldn’t get past the first season, or more than halfway through the first book. There’s always Tolkien… :)

Heh, hobbit! Based on what I’ve heard here & there I know GoT gets pretty rough, but… I dunno, I need something different. I figure either that or S1 of True Detective.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 8:11:11pm

re: #18 Interesting Times

The problem with the Trump-bashing is Donald Trump was an easy target, and the top of the ticket for the GOP. The strategy seemed to be “Tie Trump to the other candidates down-ballot.”

There is nothing wrong with that strategy, but you can’t ignore the down ballot races either. I am still incensed that my GOP representative ran unopposed, as did my state senator (the Libertarian Party managed to put a candidate up against the GOP, where were the Democrats).

There are plenty of people in Republican-majority places that would consider running, if the party actually supported them. The GOP managed to finance a radio ad for one of my village board members in a town of 124 people. The Dems can’t even be bothered to run candidates. If the party won’t run candidates, why should Democrats come out to vote? I cast an entirely blank ballot except for President and my local village board. Those were the only two elections where I could vote for someone who was not a member of the Fascist Party USA. (Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine were the only Democrats on my ballot. The Libertarians managed to float people for about half the seats.)

Considering how much territory (and territory does vote: every state gets two electoral votes, we went through this) the Democratic Party has ceded, it is so largely absent that from my viewpoint, the Democratic Party is now a regional, not national party. And that concerns me because the only other national party I have a choice with besides the GOP is the Libertarians. At least the Libertarians run candidates in my state.

teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 8:14:13pm

George Michael (RIP) has one thing in common with another R&B legend, James Brown. They both passed away on Christmas Day. 😢

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) December 26, 2016

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#NowPlaying George Michael > Faith > I Want Your Sex https://t.co/JO28xSymZS

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The uncut version of this song is straight funk.

Interesting Times Dec 25, 2016 • 8:15:29pm

re: #23 Anymouse

Harry Reid appears to agree with you:

“I believe one of the failures of Democratic Party has been the Democratic National Committee, the DNC, has been worthless. They do nothing to help state parties. That should be the main goal they have. I developed everything in Nevada on my own. Their help was relatively meaningless.”

wheat-dogg Dec 25, 2016 • 8:16:45pm

re: #19 CuriousLurker

Quick drive-by question: Game of Thrones—the book(s) or the videos?

Videos. The plot moves somewhat faster, plus all the fiddly detailed descriptions in the books are now visuals, which cuts down a lot of GRRM’s verbiage.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 8:18:37pm

re: #25 Interesting Times

Harry Reid appears to agree with you:

Yup, I read that when he put it out.

Senator Reid largely rebuilt the Democratic Party in Nevada on his own; he had little or no help from the national party apparatus.

As for my own state party, still can’t get even a “hello” from them. They don’t even ask me for money any more.

I guess I’ll be the guy left to turn out the lights in the Democratic offices after the Dems finally leave us for good.

Moebym Dec 25, 2016 • 8:20:04pm

re: #23 Anymouse

The Dems can’t even be bothered to run candidates. If the party won’t run candidates, why should Democrats come out to vote?

If there’s one lesson - only one - to be learned by the Democrats from this election, it’s RUN MORE CANDIDATES DAMMIT. You don’t run, you don’t win. For a party that talks about how government can be an instrument of good, it certainly doesn’t behave like that’s true.

CuriousLurker Dec 25, 2016 • 8:22:09pm

re: #26 wheat-dogg

Videos. The plot moves somewhat faster, plus all the fiddly detailed descriptions in the books are now visuals, which cuts down a lot of GRRM’s verbiage.

Thanks. I was kind leaning that way. Looked at the first volume of the books and saw it was 800+ pages with all the make-believe names/words, so I figured the videos might be better.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 8:22:53pm

re: #28 Moebym

If there’s one lesson - only one - to be learned by the Democrats from this election, it’s RUN MORE CANDIDATES DAMMIT. You don’t run, you don’t win. For a party that talks about how government can be an instrument of good, it certainly doesn’t behave like that’s true.

We had really good candidates that were defeated (for example, Russ Feingold in Wisconsin). That happens to every party in every election.

But if you start an election by ceding a whole bunch of seats, then every loss of a good candidate where you did run hurts that much more.

For various reasons, I do not think I would be even a poor candidate against my representative when the next House Rumble comes along. But I can support someone else who would be a good candidate. No one is out here looking for one as far as I can tell. Next election is likely to be Adrian Smith versus a Libertarian again.

Belafon Dec 25, 2016 • 8:23:24pm

re: #16 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Yep. The GOP persued an amazingly cynical strategy of absolute obstruction, and the voters have rewarded them for it. I don’t know how you fight that, I really don’t

Right now, the answer is get with people in your area and state and organize. Find your local Democratic party. We’re all going to have to move from commenting on blogs to giving our time and effort. Hopefully the party picks a DNC leader that works to bring the national and state parties together. In the mean time, we have to be prepared to challenge our reps, and make them pay when they try to do things like voucherize Medicare.

CuriousLurker Dec 25, 2016 • 8:25:00pm

You guys enjoy what’s left of the holiday. I’m gonna go read or start watching videos.

Laters…

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 8:27:28pm

re: #31 Belafon

Right now, the answer is get with people in your area and state and organize. Find your local Democratic party. We’re all going to have to move from commenting on blogs to giving our time and effort. Hopefully the party picks a DNC leader that works to bring the national and state parties together. In the mean time, we have to be prepared to challenge our reps, and make them pay when they try to do things like voucherize Medicare.

I put in plenty of time and effort on the local level. State party? Nowhere to be found.

There must be leadership in the party or local efforts will be weak and largely ineffective. The party needs to lead. It cannot be run on an ad hoc basis where some guy on the High Plains tries to prod state party leaders into doing something, anything (even answering my phone calls or letters). I cannot do jack for the party until the party is willing to make an effort itself. (The whole point of a political party is collective action.)

Make my rep pay? He has my mail on “shred before reading” as he only represents Republicans in my district.

wheat-dogg Dec 25, 2016 • 8:27:29pm

re: #29 CuriousLurker

Thanks. I was kind leaning that way. Looked at the first volume of the books and saw it was 800+ pages with all the make-believe names/words, so I figured the videos might be better.

The acting is tight, and the sets and costumes are convincing. Be prepared for gratuitous sex, nudity and gore.

Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 25, 2016 • 8:30:15pm

re: #22 CuriousLurker

Heh, hobbit! Based on what I’ve heard here & there I know GoT gets pretty rough, but… I dunno, I need something different. I figure either that or S1 of True Detective.

Have you read Jim Butcher’s urban fantasies?

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 8:30:20pm

re: #34 wheat-dogg

The acting is tight, and the sets and costumes are convincing. Be prepared for gratuitous sex, nudity and gore.

“I’ll take the first two, Wheat-Dogg.” (::

Belafon Dec 25, 2016 • 8:32:06pm

re: #28 Moebym

If there’s one lesson - only one - to be learned by the Democrats from this election, it’s RUN MORE CANDIDATES DAMMIT. You don’t run, you don’t win. For a party that talks about how government can be an instrument of good, it certainly doesn’t behave like that’s true.

The Democrats have acted for far too long like a team that scored 30 points in the first quarter and then spent the next 3 quarters defending that lead by going 4 and out and relying on defense. It doesn’t help that the public, comfortable with what they have, hasn’t been voting to keep what they have. I do lay a good portion of the blame at the voters’ feet. Their giving into racism and greed is a big part of this.

wheat-dogg Dec 25, 2016 • 8:34:17pm

re: #37 Belafon

The Democrats have acted for far too long like a team that scored 30 points in the first quarter and then spent the next 3 quarters defending that lead by going 4 and out and relying on defense. It doesn’t help that the public, comfortable with what they have, hasn’t been voting to keep what they have. I do lay a good portion of the blame at the voters’ feet. Their giving into racism and greed is a big part of this.

It would help if the Dems would remind people what the Democrat Party has done for them, beginning with Social Security.

Belafon Dec 25, 2016 • 8:36:44pm

re: #33 Anymouse

I put in plenty of time and effort on the local level. State party? Nowhere to be found.

There must be leadership in the party or local efforts will be weak and largely ineffective. The party needs to lead. It cannot be run on an ad hoc basis where some guy on the High Plains tries to prod state party leaders into doing something, anything (even answering my phone calls or letters). I cannot do jack for the party until the party is willing to make an effort itself. (The whole point of a political party is collective action.)

Make my rep pay? He has my mail on “shred before reading” as he only represents Republicans in my district.

I can sympathize. My County is 1/3 Democratic, which means no representation, and here in Texas, the state party doesn’t talk to the local parties. That will have to change and fast. I wish the DNC nomination was happening before the inauguration.

MsJ Dec 25, 2016 • 8:40:16pm

re: #35 Resistance Is Not Futile

Have you read Jim Butcher’s urban fantasies?

They are excellent. I highly recommend them.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 8:41:23pm

re: #37 Belafon

The Democrats have acted for far too long like a team that scored 30 points in the first quarter and then spent the next 3 quarters defending that lead by going 4 and out and relying on defense. It doesn’t help that the public, comfortable with what they have, hasn’t been voting to keep what they have. I do lay a good portion of the blame at the voters’ feet. Their giving into racism and greed is a big part of this.

re: #38 wheat-dogg

It would help if the Dems would remind people what the Democrat Party has done for them, beginning with Social Security.

All of that would require running candidates.

My own representative (Adrian Smith, R, NE3) is not a racist as far as I can see. However, when he runs for office his (and whichever Libertarian) message is the only one heard throughout the district.

A couple election cycles ago, we had a rancher here who decided to challenge Rep. Smith in the election as a Democrat. I was overjoyed. Fellow put a whole bunch of his own money into his campaign, travelled all over the district.

Got no help whatsoever from the national or state parties. Even doing it all on his own, he managed a close enough race that Rep. Smith had to actually come back to the district and campaign himself. (Smith’s difference: The state and national GOP poured a bunch of resources into his reëlection campaign.)

I periodically hear the refrain “the Dems have to put their money into places they think they have a reasonable chance at winning” or variations. I guarantee you the Dems have no chance of winning anywhere they don’t compete.

I wonder how the election would have turned out if our local rancher had party support? Maybe he would have still lost; you don’t win every election anyway. But with state and national support the Democratic message might have gotten out here better, and given the voters a real choice.

I’m not wealthy enough to try to mount a campaign all on my own. With the lesson of the Kimball rancher to go by, that’s the only way I could challenge Rep. Smith.

The Vicious Babushka Dec 25, 2016 • 8:46:21pm

re: #38 wheat-dogg

It would help if the Dems would remind people what the Democrat Party has done for them, beginning with Social Security.

Which the GOP has made a priority of taking away.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 8:52:00pm

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

Which the GOP has made a priority of taking away.

They’ve been after Social Security ever since it was started.

For those Republican voters who say “this isn’t the party I joined X years/decades ago” (my wife and I had a discussion about Ronald Reagan where that came up: she voted for Reagan’s reëlection and I voted for Walter Mondale), I point out “oh yes it is.”

wheat-dogg Dec 25, 2016 • 8:52:19pm

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

Which the GOP has made a priority of taking away.

Exactly. The Republicans want to do away with the New Deal legislation entirely, 80 some years after it was signed into law.

The G-No-P wants to scrap:
the New Deal
Brown vs. Board of Education
the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts
Medicare
Roe v. Wade
the ACA
welfare programs in general

And they’d be happy to dispense with a few amendments to the Constitution, as well, except the 2nd of course.

darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 8:53:41pm

Fun trick play.

New Chiefs QB depth chart:
1. Smith
2. Poe
3. Foles pic.twitter.com/anYb78SK2I

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Moebym Dec 25, 2016 • 8:55:25pm

re: #41 Anymouse

I periodically hear the refrain “the Dems have to put their money into places they think they have a reasonable chance at winning” or variations. I guarantee you the Dems have no chance of winning anywhere they don’t compete.

Saving money is fine and good, but the money that’s saved doesn’t freaking gather interest - it just gathers dust. They simply can’t go wrong by investing more money in more races, even the ones they consider to be lost causes. Those candidates may turn out to be more competitive than was previously assumed.

Romantic Heretic Dec 25, 2016 • 8:56:47pm

re: #22 CuriousLurker

If you would like an amusing and different fantasy series I recommend The Dresden Files.

I love the central character. The world building is wonderful. The supporting characters are all well done. The antagonists are always really fucking scary.

Although each book is standalone they should be read in order. What happens in the early books affects the later novels.

They’re a lot of fun.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 8:57:39pm

re: #44 wheat-dogg

Exactly. The Republicans want to do away with the New Deal legislation entirely, 80 some years after it was signed into law.

The G-No-P wants to scrap:
the New Deal
Brown vs. Board of Education
the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts
Medicare
Roe v. Wade
the ACA
welfare programs in general

And they’d be happy to dispense with a few amendments to the Constitution, as well, except the 2nd of course.

Well, for the moment on scrapping amendments, the same argument applies to the GOP as it does the Dems:

Start counting states. When you get to thirteen, your repeal effort failed. For the moment, the Democrats control enough state legislatures or parts of them that a repeal of say the XVII Amendment wouldn’t go anywhere more than a repeal of the II Amendment would.

We need to find more candidates; at this point I am of the opinion even a bad candidate would be better than no candidate.

Kafitrar Dec 25, 2016 • 8:58:53pm

re: #33 Anymouse

I put in plenty of time and effort on the local level. State party? Nowhere to be found.

There must be leadership in the party or local efforts will be weak and largely ineffective. The party needs to lead. It cannot be run on an ad hoc basis where some guy on the High Plains tries to prod state party leaders into doing something, anything (even answering my phone calls or letters). I cannot do jack for the party until the party is willing to make an effort itself. (The whole point of a political party is collective action.)

Your state party elected a new chairperson last week, Jane Kleeb. She’s the founder of Bold Nebraska and coincidentally the wife of Scott Kleeb, that rancher you mentioned.

Romantic Heretic Dec 25, 2016 • 8:58:55pm

re: #35 Resistance Is Not Futile

Have you read Jim Butcher’s urban fantasies?

Great minds and all that. ;)

The Vicious Babushka Dec 25, 2016 • 8:59:12pm

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was having Christmas and Hanukkah on the same day.

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darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 9:03:50pm

I watch “It’s a Wonderful Life” every #Christmas with my kids. They’re always pretty confused about why it’s in black and white. pic.twitter.com/to8XGtQdQY

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I’d think the more confusing part is when you explain that Mr. Potter is actually Good. https://t.co/WXzl0zgSjF

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darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 9:04:31pm

re: #52 darthstar

You don’t even need to read Paul Ryan’s tweet to get this one. Ha!

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 9:06:48pm

re: #49 Kafitrar

Your state party elected a new chairperson last week, Jane Kleeb. She’s the founder of Bold Nebraska and coincidentally the wife of Scott Kleeb, that rancher you mentioned.

Jane Kleeb is considerably to the left of a lot of Democrats. (Thanks for the info on her election, I wasn’t even sent an E-mail about it from the state Dems, and it wasn’t reported in my local conservative newspaper.)

I’m on Bold Nebraska’s E-mail list from the state court fight over the Keystone XL Pipeline (where Mrs. Kleeb got her start), so maybe I will hear from them in the future?

Stanley Sea Dec 25, 2016 • 9:15:47pm

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darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 9:16:22pm

Jesus, 2016…give it a rest for a week, will you? George Michael? Just when I thought we were almost out of this year, Wham! You pop another singer off the planet. (sorry about the Wham! thing, but George would appreciate it).

Interesting Times Dec 25, 2016 • 9:17:00pm

re: #54 Anymouse

Jane Kleeb is considerably to the left of a lot of Democrats.

I often hear the refrain of “so-and-so is too liberal to win in such-and-such a place”, but if there’s anything the 2016 clusterfuck proved, it’s that bomb-throwing extremism pays off.

With a certain segment of voters - enough to make a difference in the crucial swing states where it counts - could it be a case of emotion over ideology? That is, they don’t pay much attention (if any) to actual policy details, but how loud a person shouts and what kind of “feels” they generate?

It’s hard to explain, but I’m thinking of that bizarre segment who saw Bernie and trump as interchangeable. A friend of mine called these the “brick voters” - that is, they wanted to throw a metaphorical brick through the Washington window. Maybe by going against conventional wisdom, and coming up with messages along the lines of “Hey fuckers, Medicare is socialism and you know you love it”, Dems might peel away enough of these voters to win.

Unshaken Defiance Dec 25, 2016 • 9:18:27pm

Broke ground on this today for the wife-How the heck was I supposed to wrap this present? A 10’ x 12’ greenhouse for cymbidium orchids. Interesting project because we get wicked winds from time to time. So making a buried cinder-block foundation with deep steel posts and 2000 lb of gravel on the floor.

When finished, catalog pic-

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 9:19:50pm

re: #57 Interesting Times

I have used the socialism argument locally. The fire department, water system, electric system, &c are either village or state owned. Police, schools, road departments, Social Security, every bit of that is socialism.

My voice only carries to the town line (and sometimes out into the county) though. I don’t have a big enough stage to make much of a difference.

Stanley Sea Dec 25, 2016 • 9:20:07pm

re: #58 Unshaken Defiance

WOW. The best gift!

darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 9:22:05pm

re: #58 Unshaken Defiance

Broke ground on this today for the wife-How the heck was I supposed to wrap this present? A 10’ x 12’ greenhouse for cymbidium orchids. Interesting project because we get wicked winds from time to time. So making a buried cinder-block foundation with deep steel posts and 2000 lb of gravel on the floor.

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I got my wife an out-door omnidirectional FM antenna and a new classic style AM/FM counter top radio. We don’t get NPR very clearly here in HMB, so I’m putting an antenna on the roof tomorrow so she’ll be able to hear the Commonwealth Club and Kai Ryssdal’s Marketplace without static.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 9:22:34pm

re: #58 Unshaken Defiance

My wife bought a greenhouse a couple years ago. It seemed well-constructed but it only took one year of Nebraska winds to rip it apart.

One of my neighbours just had a greenhouse put up; his is all glass (whereas ours was made of thin plastic panels). We’ll have to see if his holds up better.

Kafitrar Dec 25, 2016 • 9:23:04pm

re: #54 Anymouse

Jane Kleeb is considerably to the left of a lot of Democrats. (Thanks for the info on her election, I wasn’t even sent an E-mail about it from the state Dems, and it wasn’t reported in my local conservative newspaper.)

I’m on Bold Nebraska’s E-mail list from the state court fight over the Keystone XL Pipeline (where Mrs. Kleeb got her start), so maybe I will hear from them in the future?

You’re welcome. She was elected back in June, so maybe the news came out then. I forgot to attach the link before. journalstar.com

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 9:26:30pm

re: #63 Kafitrar

Thanks. Mrs. Kleeb was an outspoken Sanders supporter during the primaries. She threw her support behind Hillary Clinton when Sanders’s effort faltered.

We’ll have to see how the state party behaves with Mrs. Kleeb at the helm.

darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 9:26:47pm

re: #62 Anymouse

My wife bought a greenhouse a couple years ago. It seemed well-constructed but it only took one year of Nebraska winds to rip it apart.

One of my neighbours just had a greenhouse put up; his is all glass (whereas ours was made of thin plastic panels). We’ll have to see if his holds up better.

I built a greenhouse (glass) for my first wife…when we were renting…as ex=pats. Damn, she knew how to flush money down the toilet. Still, it’s a tough job but be patient and get through it. You’ll love it when you’re done.

Unshaken Defiance Dec 25, 2016 • 9:27:20pm

re: #62 Anymouse

Ours is thin plastic. Harbor Freight aluminum /polycarb kit. But it will be reinforced by an inner structure, used to hang orchids from. It will be strong, just maybe lose a panel or two in a big blow. Thinking maybe a weather station on it too just for fun. One of the internet connected types. We hope to monitor and control it over the net eventually, all powered with solar panels on the patio roof.

darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 9:29:51pm

FYI - Pence’s new neighborhood is getting ready for his January arrival, and it’s awesome! #TheResistance pic.twitter.com/VBBJCcxwz8

— ElaineSoCal🍋 (@ElaineSoCal) December 26, 2016

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freetoken Dec 25, 2016 • 9:30:40pm

re: #66 Unshaken Defiance

Will it have two doors? Or windows? Cymbidiums like plenty of air circulation.

teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 9:32:22pm

re: #67 darthstar

Mike Pence looks like the kind of guy who’s wholly and hatefully homophobic on the outside, but sits in a dark room during solitary moments and watches gay porn on the inside.

Stanley Sea Dec 25, 2016 • 9:32:40pm

re: #66 Unshaken Defiance

Ours is thin plastic. Harbor Freight aluminum /polycarb kit. But it will be reinforced by an inner structure, used to hang orchids from. It will be strong, just maybe lose a panel or two in a big blow. Thinking maybe a weather station on it too just for fun. One of the internet connected types. We hope to monitor and control it over the net eventually, all powered with solar panels on the patio roof.

So Cal will be the perfect place for it. Please post photos of its completion & ESPECIALLY when it is full of orchids.

I’m still jaw dropped, this is the best gift I’ve seen in real life & all over the social media today. Bravo RWC.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 9:33:23pm

nebraskademocrats.org

The Nebraska Democratic Party’s bio of Jane Kleeb.

It starts:

Early in her career, Kleeb became the Executive Director of the Young Democrats of America in Washington, DC. She took the reigns of YDA at a time when the youth vote was on the decline. Along with an alliance of diverse groups ranging from Punk Voters to Stonewall Democrats, Jane created an innovate approach to elections that blended traditional and non-tradtional methods of talking to young people at their homes and where they hang out.The youth vote hit historic highs under Kleeb’s leadership. Jane went on to be a co-founder of the DNC’s Youth Council bringing together YDA, CDA and other organizations to institutionalize youth engagement in the Democratic party.

Bringing people together in creative action is a goal of Jane’s throughout her career. She is responsible for such large actions like Reject and Protect where 12 tipis were placed on the National Mall, building a barn inside the proposed KXL route as an act of civil disobedience and hosting Nebraska’s largest concert, Harvest the Hope, in a corn field with Willie Nelson and Neil Young. Jane was one of the youngest Directors of an AmeriCorps project, worked to ensure eating disorders was included in the Mental Health Party bill and brought her communications skills to MTV as a Street Team Reporter and pundit on MSNBC and Fox News. Kleeb also served as the lead consultant on the award-winning HBO film “Thin” profiling families in the recovery process.

Unshaken Defiance Dec 25, 2016 • 9:41:07pm

re: #68 freetoken

Lots of air.
Sliding doors but likely to be kept closed apart from visits. Four temp activated roof vents, two intake fans two exhaust fans hooked up to a thermostat. RO water misting system too. Well, filtered for now, reverse osmosis system later. So that’s now two greenhouses. But I was just corrected-This one will be cattelayas and dendrobiums. The other house is for cymbidiums.

Belafon Dec 25, 2016 • 9:42:50pm

re: #67 darthstar

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It’s going to take a lot of organizing, but I think there are a lot of people out there who will respond to any attempts to change a number of things. Even in my conservative County, lesbians attend the big church, Republican voters have transgender children (they called out the mayor when he tried to get a bathroom ordinance passed).

Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 25, 2016 • 9:42:57pm

re: #48 Anymouse

Well, for the moment on scrapping amendments, the same argument applies to the GOP as it does the Dems:

Start counting states. When you get to thirteen, your repeal effort failed. For the moment, the Democrats control enough state legislatures or parts of them that a repeal of say the XVII Amendment wouldn’t go anywhere more than a repeal of the II Amendment would.

We need to find more candidates; at this point I am of the opinion even a bad candidate would be better than no candidate.

Before you count states count Senate and House members — a proposed amendment needs a 2/3 majority in both.

Bass Reeves Dec 25, 2016 • 9:46:17pm

re: #29 CuriousLurker

Don’t start reading GoT books, since GRR won’t effing finish them. I recently completed the Malazan Book of the Fallen, best thing I’ve read after The Dark Tower, but way more personalities than a normal series.

darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 9:51:34pm

re: #73 Belafon

It’s going to take a lot of organizing, but I think there are a lot of people out there who will respond to any attempts to change a number of things. Even in my conservative County, lesbians attend the big church, Republican voters have transgender children (they called out the mayor when he tried to get a bathroom ordinance passed).

One of my buddies just told me his oldest girl (16) is transgender and wants to live as a boy.
I said, “What are you going to do?”
He said, “Love her unconditionally.”
I said, “You got that fuckin’ right.”

Stanley Sea Dec 25, 2016 • 9:53:33pm

Wham! - Everything She Wants

Belafon Dec 25, 2016 • 9:54:22pm

re: #76 darthstar

One of my buddies just told me his oldest girl (16) is transgender and wants to live as a boy.
I said, “What are you going to do?”
He said, “Love her unconditionally.”
I said, “You got that fuckin’ right.”

My middle son has a friend who we first knew as a girl who transitioned about 3 years ago. We see him so infrequently that I have to concentrate to get his name right.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 9:54:54pm

re: #74 Resistance Is Not Futile

Before you count states count Senate and House members — a proposed amendment needs a 2/3 majority in both.

True, I was just looking at the state angle. Any amendment would have to get through Congress first. With states such as California, New York, Massachusetts, &c in the D column, getting a rights-stripping amendment or a repeal through would be tough.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 9:59:02pm

wonkette.com

Wonkette put up their favourite deleted comment for additional mocking.

It was in response to a 2014 Springfield, Massachusetts city councilmember who during the lighting of the city’s menorah said “Jesus is the reason for the season.”

That drew a comment that stands in the annals of stupid comments at Wonkette which has never been topped:

The councilor [sic] is absolutely correct;Jesus is the only Reason for the season.There is no such thing as a mythological “holiday season.” There is only the Advent and Christmas season. Hanukkah is not a holiday and you can’t find it in the Jewish version of the Old Testament. If the Jews want to win friends and influence people, then they should cease trying to step on the Christian Christmas. As a Greek Orthodox Christian , I find Hanukkah to be very offfensive. If the Jews want to make a big deal about a Jewish holiday, then they can emphasize Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur or even Purim, but stay away from Christmas.

darthstar Dec 25, 2016 • 10:19:04pm

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— nick (@nick_pants) December 26, 2016

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Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 10:20:01pm

independent.co.uk

A Christmas carol service in the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo has accidentally printed out the lyrics to late rapper Tupac Shakur’s ‘Hail Mary’ in its programme instead of the 15th century Catholic prayer.

The mix-up occurred at the 2016 Catholic Joy to the World Festival at the city’s Nelum Pokuna Theatre during one of Sri Lanka’s largest Christmas celebrations earlier this month.

Instead of finding the words “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee/blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb”, the carol singers were invited to reflect on the 1997 song’s themes of mortality, violence and sex and whether they wanted to “ride or die.”

More at The Independent, including some of the more risqué lyrics from Tupac’s song sung at Mass.

teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 10:35:33pm

Gus unfollowed me and darthstar. He’s being kind of a dick tonight. Stupid shit.

@darthstar99 @teleskiguy It’s been real but I decided to unfollow both of you and put you both on mute. Have a nice life.

— Gus Neoliberal™ (@Gus_802) December 26, 2016

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TedStriker Dec 25, 2016 • 10:36:49pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Gus unfollowed me and darthstar. He’s being kind of a dick tonight. Stupid shit.

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Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 10:37:01pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Who is Gus?

Stanley Sea Dec 25, 2016 • 10:37:57pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Who knows. …

retired cynic Dec 25, 2016 • 10:38:43pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

That is one weird string of tweets.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 10:38:57pm

Goose noodle soup … yum …

teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 10:40:47pm

re: #85 Anymouse

Who is Gus?

Old LGF alum who hasn’t been contributing here much for a few years now. He spends his online life on Twitter now. @Gus_802

teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 10:41:29pm

re: #87 retired cynic

That is one weird string of tweets.

I’m baffled, frankly. We’ve had a warm and friendly rapport for years.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 10:41:38pm

re: #87 retired cynic

That is one weird string of tweets.

I will never understand the appeal of Twitter.

retired cynic Dec 25, 2016 • 10:42:12pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

It doesn’t sound like him at all. :<

Stanley Sea Dec 25, 2016 • 10:42:45pm

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Targetpractice Dec 25, 2016 • 10:55:52pm

Thank you, Apple, for creating a “user-friendly” device that requires you to set up wifi connection before you can fix the problem preventing you from setting up a wifi connection.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 10:59:54pm

The RNC says its Christmas message about a ‘new King’ referred to Jesus, not Donald Trump https://t.co/wvNLijMCdl

— TIME (@TIME) December 25, 2016

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Republicans also said Obama wasn’t born in America, referring to FLOTUS as a gorilla wasn’t racist & the Confederate flag is about heritage https://t.co/tZvjO5Z9zo

— Maggie Jordan: (@MaggieJordanACN) December 26, 2016

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teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:01:47pm

Well, it was real. Gus is unfollowing me? I’ll reciprocate. Too bad.

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 11:05:08pm

OT: Turned on the kitchen cold water, got a four-second delay before water came out.

I just paid $1,800 to get my plumbing fixed, I don’t need it to freeze again. Turned on the water to flow slowly. That can add to my water bill from filling up my basement while we were in California.

teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:05:47pm

re: #96 teleskiguy

Hey Gus, sorry I pissed you off so much that you cut me off completely on your Twitter. Not sure what it was, but I’m sorry. Bye.

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) December 26, 2016

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Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 11:08:16pm

Jim Wright noting the hazards of drunk-tweeting (NSFW):

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When you get up hungover and on the way to Christmas Mass you look at your phone and realize you tweeted the Pope to eat a bag of dicks…

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) December 25, 2016

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teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:09:17pm

Travel On

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Cheechako Dec 25, 2016 • 11:11:02pm

The predicted 6’ - 9” of snow began at 10 PM. The NWS special bulletin expected the snow to begin at 9 PM. I guess that’s close enough for weather forecasting.

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Alyosha Dec 25, 2016 • 11:12:36pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

Jebus. That’s rough…

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teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:13:44pm

re: #102 Alyosha

I’ll live. NBD.

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Alyosha Dec 25, 2016 • 11:20:20pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

I mean, he’s been on the warpath lately… it’s cold, maybe he’ll come around lol

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teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:24:14pm

re: #104 Alyosha

I couldn’t care less.

Petulance is not a virtue.

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Alyosha Dec 25, 2016 • 11:28:25pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

Just saw the tweets leading up to it. I see his point, but ‘regressive left’… sheesh…

Not like there isn’t a plethora of Muslims here and on Twitter who don’t fucking abhor what radicals do in their name.
What can you do?

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teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:29:35pm

re: #106 Alyosha

If he puts me in the category of the “regressive left” then he can go fuck himself.

108

Alyosha Dec 25, 2016 • 11:31:03pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

Can’t fault you there. Anyways…

*swigs a cab sav from the bottle*

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Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 11:34:59pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

If he puts me in the category of the “regressive left” then he can go fuck himself.

I never understood the “regressive left” label: What does that even mean?

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teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:36:22pm

Just askin’. Would a guy on the “regressive left” post a comment like this?

111

Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 11:37:34pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

Just askin’. Would a guy on the “regressive left” post a comment like this?

Tell us what you really meant by that comment. /s

112

teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:37:56pm

re: #109 Anymouse

I never understood the “regressive left” label: What does that even mean?

My interpretation of it is people who are borderline-Communist who take everything at The Intercept as gospel and Edward Snowden is a modern-day MLK, Jill Stein voters and the like.

113

teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:40:57pm

This is a shithead “regressive left” comment from a “regressive left” candidate for president.

In case you didn’t know, the United States funds and arms terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIS when it needs them to disrupt a country.

— Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) December 26, 2016

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Alyosha Dec 25, 2016 • 11:40:57pm

re: #109 Anymouse

I never understood the “regressive left” label: What does that even mean?

It’s a label for people who recognise the humanity shared by our liberally - minded Muslim brothers and sisters. Obviously, there are some moral relativists who have earned that title by defending the terrible things done in the name of Islam, but most of us understand how ordinary people are being judged by their faith and refuse to collectively condemn them.

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Amory Blaine Dec 25, 2016 • 11:42:16pm

re: #16 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Yep. The GOP persued an amazingly cynical strategy of absolute obstruction, and the voters have rewarded them for it. I don’t know how you fight that, I really don’t

Get in the mud with a ruthless class warfare campaign.

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Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 11:44:59pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

My interpretation of it is people who are borderline-Communist who take everything at The Intercept as gospel and Edward Snowden is a modern-day MLK, Jill Stein voters and the like.

I pay the Intercept about as much mind as I do my non-existent stock portfolio.

As far as Snowden is concerned, while he did start a conversation on the surveillance state, there were better ways to go about that. I don’t entirely fault him for being in Moscow because our government cancelled his passport while he was awaiting a flight to Bolivia. If we issued him a new passport he would likely leave. (It wasn’t exactly cricket for our country to have the Bolivian president’s diplomatic plane forced down in Austria on suspicion of Snowden-smuggling either.)

As for the idea he is some sort of modern-day Dr. King, no, he’s just a guy who has long outlasted his five minutes of fame.

On Stein voters, I wouldn’t put them in a “regressive” category, more of a “moonbat” category myself. (I still haven’t figured out who the two people here were that voted for Dr. Stein. Perhaps they mismarked their ballots and were aiming for Donald Trump?)

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Targetpractice Dec 25, 2016 • 11:45:02pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

This is a shithead “regressive left” comment from a “regressive left” candidate for president.

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Ah, Jill Stein, a walking and talking example of every negative stereotype of liberalism that wingnuts can come up with.

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Anymouse Dec 25, 2016 • 11:47:36pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

This is a shithead “regressive left” comment from a “regressive left” candidate for president.

[Dr. Jill Stein tweet]

She sounds like someone on right wing radio in that tweet.

Could one argue that “regressive left” is when you go so far beyond normal politics, you wind up in the same place as wingnuts who have done that on the right?

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teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:48:00pm

re: #117 Targetpractice

Ah, Jill Stein, a walking and talking example of every negative stereotype of liberalism that wingnuts can come up with.

Exactamundo.

Also, wi-fi signals cause cancer and vaccines aren’t a proven science.

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teleskiguy Dec 25, 2016 • 11:48:33pm

re: #118 Anymouse

It’s called The Circle of Derp.

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Amory Blaine Dec 25, 2016 • 11:57:41pm

It’s the holidays. Sometimes people get pissed off. Anyhoo, here’s a pic of one of the quilts mom made us (the other is still being made) for Christmas.

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Dave In Austin Dec 25, 2016 • 11:59:44pm

re: #121 Amory Blaine

Warmth through patchwork. Very nice.

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Odie Hugh Manatee Dec 26, 2016 • 12:11:38am

From the other thread (late, I am…):

John Cole has his Christmas story for 2016 up… WARNING!!! DO NOT be drinking anything when you read this!!!

Merry Shitmas!

Only John Cole…lol!

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wheat-dogg Dec 26, 2016 • 12:31:29am

re: #78 Belafon

My middle son has a friend who we first knew as a girl who transitioned about 3 years ago. We see him so infrequently that I have to concentrate to get his name right.

A former student of mine has become Sam from Samantha. Since he went by Sam as a nickname when he was Samantha, I don’t have to worry about goofing up his name. But the beard still throws me for a loop.

Same person, just different gender. Sam is still Sam.

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wheat-dogg Dec 26, 2016 • 12:33:25am

re: #82 Anymouse

independent.co.uk

More at The Independent, including some of the more risqué lyrics from Tupac’s song sung at Mass.

Maybe it’s time for a rap version of the Bible. The Song of Solomon is pretty risqué already.

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teleskiguy Dec 26, 2016 • 12:35:08am

Fake news could kill us all.

Duped by fake news, Pakistan minister threatens nuclear retaliation against Israel https://t.co/0QaLTV2Wal

— AFP news agency (@AFP) December 26, 2016

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Islamabad (AFP) - Pakistan’s defence minister has threatened to retaliate in kind to any Israeli nuclear strike after apparently being tricked by a fake news site into a confrontation on social media.

Khawaja Asif was responding to an invented story published on the website AWDNews and headlined: “Israeli Defense Minister: If Pakistan send ground troops into Syria on any pretext, we will destroy this country with a nuclear attack.”

“Israeli def min threatens nuclear retaliation presuming pak role in Syria against Daesh (Islamic State).Israel forgets Pakistan is a Nuclear state too” the Pakistani minister tweeted Friday.

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Targetpractice Dec 26, 2016 • 12:56:17am

re: #126 teleskiguy

Fake news could kill us all.

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We’ve got a president-elect who wants us to engage in a new nuclear arms race and one of the world’s nuclear powers got fooled into making a nuclear threat to another nuclear-armed nation due to fake news.

We are so fucked.

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wheat-dogg Dec 26, 2016 • 1:23:29am

State Farm ran an ad showing an African-American man proposing to a surprised white woman, and Twitter exploded in a deluge of hate, per Raw Story.

rawstory.com

It’s 2016, and interracial couples still are not acceptable to some bigots. smdh

Now State Farm should run another ad, with two guys (or gals) as the engaging couple, and see what happens.

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wheat-dogg Dec 26, 2016 • 1:38:01am

Charles can be somewhat of a git sometimes, but in this address he speaks truth.

HRH Prince Charles condemns “evil” persecution in special video message

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wheat-dogg Dec 26, 2016 • 3:09:31am

This is what happens when high schoolers don’t learn about the horrors of Hitler and the Third Reich.

shanghaiist.com

Somewhere along the line, these kids did not get the message that Nazi = bad, really bad, WTF are you thinking bad.

Meanwhile, I just finished the second season of The Man in the High Castle. It ends on a more hopeful note than I expected. If it mirrors the Trump Reich, we may yet survive.

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Shiplord Kirel Dec 26, 2016 • 3:09:39am

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

George RR Martin @GRRM
2016 was directed by me.

2016 still has 4 days, almost 5, to wreak havoc. I hope GRRM himself (the real one) makes it. For that matter, I hope that I make it. Since I’m not famous I have a fair chance but I am 67, so I’ll breathe a sigh of relief when midnight ticks by next Saturday night. Then we can watch while the whole country dies.

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wheat-dogg Dec 26, 2016 • 3:11:46am

re: #131 Shiplord Kirel

2016 still has 4 days, almost 5, to wreak havoc. I hope GRRM himself (the real one) makes it. For that matter, I hope that I make it. Since I’m not famous I have a fair chance but I am 67, so I’ll breathe a sigh of relief when midnight ticks by next Saturday night. Then we can watch while the whole country dies.

We’ve got 20 days after New Year’s Eve to enjoy America as we know it.

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Shiplord Kirel Dec 26, 2016 • 3:23:44am

re: #129 wheat-dogg

Charles can be somewhat of a git sometimes, but in this address he speaks truth.

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Note that Charles cites “populist” anti-refugee groups as an aspect of the problem and directly equates them with Nazis.

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wheat-dogg Dec 26, 2016 • 3:35:46am

re: #133 Shiplord Kirel

Note that Charles cites “populist” anti-refugee groups as an aspect of the problem and directly equates them with Nazis.

Right. He’s no fool in that regard. Some of his countrymen will not react well to the suggestion they are like Nazis, and some will say, yeah, so what?

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Jayleia Dec 26, 2016 • 5:23:39am

So, a few questions for the more…combative Lizardim.

I’m not a big person, or a very strong one and I’ve actually never been in a real fight, or self-defense situation, I picked up a bit of Karate as a fitness thing more years ago than I care to think of, but never as a defense/fighting skill.

But, I think its probably a good idea for people of certain groups to invest time and money into learning such skills ASAP. Does any particular martial art stand out for this sort of self-defense/protective need? Krav Maga had caught my eye, but I’m open for ideas.

Other protective options include
Stun gun: I actually have one, but how useful are they? Legality?
Pepper Spray: Easily available, concealable. How useful is it against groups?

And the last question is one I never thought I’d actually have to ask about in the US in 2017, in private, due to subject matter…

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OK, after adding all of that to my to-do list for the new year…First Aid classes. What to do after that? Upgrade home security, deadbolts front and rear, alarms on all the windows…

2017 sucks already…

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 5:54:50am

re: #135 Jayleia

So, a few questions for the more…combative Lizardim.

I’m not a big person, or a very strong one and I’ve actually never been in a real fight, or self-defense situation, I picked up a bit of Karate as a fitness thing more years ago than I care to think of, but never as a defense/fighting skill.

But, I think its probably a good idea for people of certain groups to invest time and money into learning such skills ASAP. Does any particular martial art stand out for this sort of self-defense/protective need? Krav Maga had caught my eye, but I’m open for ideas.

Other protective options include
Stun gun: I actually have one, but how useful are they? Legality?
Pepper Spray: Easily available, concealable. How useful is it against groups?

And the last question is one I never thought I’d actually have to ask about in the US in 2017, in private, due to subject matter…

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OK, after adding all of that to my to-do list for the new year…First Aid classes. What to do after that? Upgrade home security, deadbolts front and rear, alarms on all the windows…

2017 sucks already…

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Decatur Deb Dec 26, 2016 • 5:57:14am

re: #135 Jayleia

So, a few questions for the more…combative Lizardim.

I’m not a big person, or a very strong one and I’ve actually never been in a real fight, or self-defense situation, I picked up a bit of Karate as a fitness thing more years ago than I care to think of, but never as a defense/fighting skill.

But, I think its probably a good idea for people of certain groups to invest time and money into learning such skills ASAP. Does any particular martial art stand out for this sort of self-defense/protective need? Krav Maga had caught my eye, but I’m open for ideas.

Other protective options include
Stun gun: I actually have one, but how useful are they? Legality?
Pepper Spray: Easily available, concealable. How useful is it against groups?

And the last question is one I never thought I’d actually have to ask about in the US in 2017, in private, due to subject matter…

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OK, after adding all of that to my to-do list for the new year…First Aid classes. What to do after that? Upgrade home security, deadbolts front and rear, alarms on all the windows…

2017 sucks already…

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jeffreyw Dec 26, 2016 • 6:03:35am

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Good morning!

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 6:06:45am

re: #136 William Lewis

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 6:09:25am

ALLISON AUBREY, HOST:
Since last month’s election, it seems that gun sales have been on the rise. One indicator is that FBI background checks for gun purchases shot up to their highest level in two years on Black Friday, according to the gun control news site The Trace. And another group has been reporting a recent rise in the number of people interested in guns, The Liberal Gun Club. That’s an organization for left-leaning gun lovers. It has nine chapters and members in all 50 states.

According to the group’s spokesperson, Lara Smith, The Liberal Gun Club has seen a big spike in inquiries since the election and a 10 percent bump in membership. Lara Smith joins us from El Cerrito, Calif., to talk about some of these figures.

npr.org

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Jayleia Dec 26, 2016 • 6:11:09am

re: #136 William Lewis

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Jayleia Dec 26, 2016 • 6:18:01am

re: #137 Decatur Deb

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Decatur Deb Dec 26, 2016 • 6:19:25am

re: #142 Jayleia

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You’ll shoot your eye out, kid.

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 6:20:18am

re: #141 Jayleia

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sagehen Dec 26, 2016 • 6:25:02am

re: #116 Anymouse

I pay the Intercept about as much mind as I do my non-existent stock portfolio.

As far as Snowden is concerned, while he did start a conversation on the surveillance state, there were better ways to go about that. I don’t entirely fault him for being in Moscow because our government cancelled his passport while he was awaiting a flight to Bolivia.

I fault him ENTIRELY for that.

A guy who wants to go from Hawaii to Bolivia… via China and Russia isn’t the direct route. Clearly, it was his deliberate intent to goto China and Russia.

(To meet with somebody who lives in Brazil? Uh huh. Again, going via China and Russia means he really purposely wanted to go to China and Russia.)

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Jayleia Dec 26, 2016 • 6:27:15am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

At least I know enough not to buy a gun like this…

…so I SHOULD be able to avoid that.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Dec 26, 2016 • 6:28:00am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

You’ll shoot ~~your~~ yer eye out, kid.

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 6:32:29am

Interesting. Seems the Liberal Gun Club has hit the BBC.

Gun ownership has traditionally been associated with the right wing in America but the election of Donald Trump has prompted some left-wingers to join gun clubs - and even start preparing for the collapse of society.

“I really didn’t expect to be thinking about purchasing a gun. It was something that my father did and I rolled my eyes at him.”

Clara, a 28-year-old nursing student, grew up in the Mid-West, where “the folks that had guns were seen as hicks” or were just “culturally different”, she says.

But since the election of Donald Trump in November she has started going to a gun range for the first time and is shopping around for a semi-automatic pistol.

bbc.com

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Decatur Deb Dec 26, 2016 • 6:43:01am

re: #148 William Lewis

Interesting. Seems the Liberal Gun Club has hit the BBC.

bbc.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 6:47:39am

re: #120 teleskiguy

It’s called The Circle of Derp.

Like when anti-Western Medicine, anti-Big Pharma moonbat anti-vaxers merge with anti-Modern Science, anti-Government health program wingnut anti-vaxers.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Dec 26, 2016 • 6:48:57am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The circle describes it quite well; they end up at the same point in stupid, but their reasoning is very different.

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Jayleia Dec 26, 2016 • 6:49:04am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And then they become Fuckwit Voltron!

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 6:49:14am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 7:21:11am

re: #83 teleskiguy

Gus unfollowed me and darthstar. He’s being kind of a dick tonight. Stupid shit.

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Okay.

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jeffreyw Dec 26, 2016 • 7:26:13am

A fucking HEAT INDEX in Illinois on the DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS!!?!

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Thanks, Trump!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 7:27:55am

re: #155 jeffreyw

A fucking HEAT INDEX in Illinois on the DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS!!?!

Thanks, Trump!

We had a very mild Christmas here in Germany, temps well into the 50’s and sunny.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 7:29:35am

Wearing my Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Christmas tee that I got for Christmas. The next four years are going to be tough but I’m not going to sacrifice my sense of humor.

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PhillyPretzel Dec 26, 2016 • 7:34:44am

To whomever was complaining about a heat wave this is what is going on in Philly and the surrounding area.
weather.gov

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Dr Lizardo Dec 26, 2016 • 7:35:48am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We had a very mild Christmas here in Germany, temps well into the 50’s and sunny.

Not quite so warm here (eastern Czech Republic), but still relatively mild during the day - highs in the 40’s.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 7:36:10am

For anyone still considering a gun for home protection, if the caveats that most people killed at home by guns are killed by their own guns isn’t enough to discourage you, and you feel like a raving Nazi home invasion is going to be a regular part of the American experience in the coming administration, and you’re not someone who grew up in gun culture, aren’t comfortable around them, don’t understand that keeping a round chambered is something even professionals outside of active combat activity rarely do because it’s stupid and unsafe, then can I offer one small piece of unsolicited advice?

If you really must have a gun, get a shotgun. Pump action. Not semi-auto.
1. They make a very loud noise when you pull the trigger and will likely scare away the Nazi horde chewing through the front door.
2. You don’t have to be super-accurate with them. Just point in the general direction you want to shoot, pump a shell into the chamber, and pull the trigger.
3. And this is most important. A shotgun filled with any load, even buck shot, isn’t going to go through more than one wall. So your odds of accidentally shooting your neighbor in the head while they sleep because you’re cleaning your gun…again…are next to zero.

Remember, the life you save by not keeping a round in the chamber could be your own.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 7:36:41am

George Michael is dead and they are not saying the cause of death.

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Joe Bacon Dec 26, 2016 • 7:37:09am

re: #135 Jayleia

So, a few questions for the more…combative Lizardim.

I’m not a big person, or a very strong one and I’ve actually never been in a real fight, or self-defense situation, I picked up a bit of Karate as a fitness thing more years ago than I care to think of, but never as a defense/fighting skill.

But, I think its probably a good idea for people of certain groups to invest time and money into learning such skills ASAP. Does any particular martial art stand out for this sort of self-defense/protective need? Krav Maga had caught my eye, but I’m open for ideas.

Other protective options include
Stun gun: I actually have one, but how useful are they? Legality?
Pepper Spray: Easily available, concealable. How useful is it against groups?

And the last question is one I never thought I’d actually have to ask about in the US in 2017, in private, due to subject matter…

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OK, after adding all of that to my to-do list for the new year…First Aid classes. What to do after that? Upgrade home security, deadbolts front and rear, alarms on all the windows…

2017 sucks already…

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 7:37:32am

re: #161 Birth Control Works

George Michael is dead and they are not saying the cause of death.

Thought I read somewhere it was heart failure.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 7:38:26am

re: #160 darthstar

For anyone still considering a gun for home protection, if the caveats that most people killed at home by guns are killed by their own guns isn’t enough to discourage you, and you feel like a raving Nazi home invasion is going to be a regular part of the American experience in the coming administration, and you’re not someone who grew up in gun culture, aren’t comfortable around them, don’t understand that keeping a round chambered is something even professionals outside of active combat activity rarely do because it’s stupid and unsafe, then can I offer one small piece of unsolicited advice?

If you really must have a gun, get a shotgun. Pump action. Not semi-auto.
1. They make a very loud noise when you pull the trigger and will likely scare away the Nazi horde chewing through the front door.
2. You don’t have to be super-accurate with them. Just point in the general direction you want to shoot, pump a shell into the chamber, and pull the trigger.
3. And this is most important. A shotgun filled with any load, even buck shot, isn’t going to go through more than one wall. So your odds of accidentally shooting your neighbor in the head while they sleep because you’re cleaning your gun…again…are next to zero.

Remember, the life you save by not keeping a round in the chamber could be your own.

I agree, the only weapon most people need is a shotgun. Keep in mind, it takes strength I don’t don’t have to operate the firearm.

I have long fingernails and dogs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 7:38:53am

re: #160 darthstar

If I ever moved back to the States, it would probably be to Arizona. Where I would buy a gun, a pistol, for self-protection. Not against home invasion but against rattlesnakes on the trail. Especially in the spring months when they are just coming out of hibernation, groggy, hungry and generally in a bad mood.

Snake shot is like mini-buckshot and has the same advantages, you do not have to aim precisely and it will generally scare them off without doing much or any harm.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 7:38:59am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Thought I read somewhere it was heart failure.

I read that too. Dude was my age.

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Dr Lizardo Dec 26, 2016 • 7:39:20am

re: #161 Birth Control Works

George Michael is dead and they are not saying the cause of death.

I’ve read that it was cardiac failure.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 7:39:48am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 7:40:04am

re: #166 darthstar

I read that too. Dude was my age.

Younger than me. Prince was my age, Micheal Jackson a half hear older.

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Joe Bacon Dec 26, 2016 • 7:40:19am

re: #161 Birth Control Works

George Michael is dead and they are not saying the cause of death.

TMZ is now saying that he was struggling with his weight.

tmz.com

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 7:40:22am

re: #166 darthstar

I read that too. Dude was my age.

same here.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 7:47:01am

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was not the first person to argue that national security is linked to women’s equality when she made it a cornerstone of American foreign policy. President George W. Bush identified “respect for women” as one of the “nonnegotiable demands of human dignity.” Even President Xi Jinping of China said in 2015 that “every step taken to promote women’s cause has been a giant step forward for the progress of human civilization.”

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 7:47:41am

re: #170 Joe Bacon

TMZ is now saying that he was struggling with his weight.

tmz.com

All the more reason for me to work on mine. I’ve got a heart condition to boot. Hasn’t caused me any problems yet but that can sneak up on you.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 7:48:19am

re: #166 darthstar

I read that too. Dude was my age.

Too young in any case.

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 7:48:48am

re: #160 darthstar

1) Proven false more often than not. People do not recognise the sound and do not run away from it.
2) Shotguns need aiming just as much as any other firearm. The shot column needs several yards to open up to the point where aiming is less relevant. In a house it’s simply a .75 caliber pushing a number of lead balls in a very small column. Missing is still missing and that brings up
3) those 8 .33” lead balls (presuming 00 buckshot) are going to go somewhere and you better not be expecting any walls to be stopping them. If you’re not 100% aware of what’s on the other side of the wall(s) you’re asking for trouble. Bird shot (#6 is good) simply has insufficient mass to be anywhere near as dangerous.

Shotguns can be a good weapon in your home but they are not perfect and they are not at all useful in a hate crime - gay bashing, rape, etc - that happens away from the home.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 7:49:08am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If I ever moved back to the States, it would probably be to Arizona. Where I would buy a gun, a pistol, for self-protection. Not against home invasion but against rattlesnakes on the trail. Especially in the spring months when they are just coming out of hibernation, groggy, hungry and generally in a bad mood.

Snake shot is like mini-buckshot and has the same advantages, you do not have to aim precisely and it will generally scare them off without doing much or any harm.

I grew up in rattlesnake country in northern California. Killed 13 one summer by our house, and another dozen the following year when we lived on a large spread. And ‘by our house’ means in front of the garage, near the kitchen door, on the lawn, next to the swimming pool, etc.

Buying guns for protection is fine. I just can’t buy into the idea people need guns that are designed to kill people for protection - that borders on aggression. “I want an M-14 for stopping terrorists/commies when they come!” - Okay…maybe if you’re in the nest you built next to the chimney and are lying in wait during a real life Red Dawn II, but right now you’re fantasizing.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 7:49:28am

Two goals next year) Lose weight/eat better and read more/better. Goal number one a little tricky at the moment with all the sweets but number two is off to a good start since I’m reading David McCullough’s book on the Wright Brothers.

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Joe Bacon Dec 26, 2016 • 7:49:37am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

All the more reason for me to work on mine. I’ve got a heart condition to boot. Hasn’t caused me any problems yet but that can sneak up on you.

Know that all too well which is why I make myself go to the gym every day even when I don’t want to.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 7:50:25am

re: #178 Joe Bacon

Know that all too well which is why I make myself go to the gym every day even when I don’t want to.

I’ve fallen off the gym a bit since I’ve started working but I do have a recumbent so I’m going to start using that regularly again.

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Eventual Carrion Dec 26, 2016 • 7:51:54am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Thought I read somewhere it was heart failure.

That is what I was initially seeing reported.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch Dec 26, 2016 • 7:52:29am

re: #161 Birth Control Works

George Michael is dead and they are not saying the cause of death.

I’m hearing that it was a cardiac event. He had apparently gained a lot of weight in recent years.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 7:52:32am

re: #180 Eventual Carrion

That is what I was initially seeing reported.

It’s all very sad. Wasn’t too familiar with his music but he was definitely a talented and likable guy.

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Dr Lizardo Dec 26, 2016 • 7:53:20am

re: #170 Joe Bacon

TMZ is now saying that he was struggling with his weight.

tmz.com

I remember seeing those photos in the Brit tabloids a few months back. He’d definitely put on weight, for whatever reason; maybe he’d quit smoking….that’ll pack on the pounds, to be sure.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch Dec 26, 2016 • 7:54:26am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If I ever moved back to the States, it would probably be to Arizona. Where I would buy a gun, a pistol, for self-protection. Not against home invasion but against rattlesnakes on the trail. Especially in the spring months when they are just coming out of hibernation, groggy, hungry and generally in a bad mood.

Snake shot is like mini-buckshot and has the same advantages, you do not have to aim precisely and it will generally scare them off without doing much or any harm.

I wouldn’t get a gun for rattlesnakes. I work in the field during snake season and have walked right over them, right by them, and almost stepped on them. If you see one, just walk around it.

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Patricia Kayden Dec 26, 2016 • 7:55:21am

re: #160 darthstar

I’m afraid of guns so will never have one in my house. Must be my liberal Canadian background. I’d be terrified that any gun in my home would end up being used against me versus to protect me. I keep hearing stories about family members being inadvertently shot by loved ones and that’s enough for me.

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Romantic Heretic Dec 26, 2016 • 7:55:26am

re: #135 Jayleia

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 7:56:09am

re: #184 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I wouldn’t get a gun for rattlesnakes. I work in the field during snake season and have walked right over them, right by them, and almost stepped on them. If you see one, just walk around it.

Most of the snakes I killed I killed with a shovel.

Shovels also work great against zombies and raving Nazis.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 7:58:04am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

I’m afraid of guns so will never have one in my house. Must be my liberal Canadian background. I’d be terrified that any gun in my home would end up being used against me versus to protect me. I keep hearing stories about family members being inadvertently shot by loved ones and that’s enough for me.

I think the one idea that frustates me the most is that the gun nuts thing everyone should have a gun —ignoring their own mantra of “not everyone is a candidate for gun ownership.”

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch Dec 26, 2016 • 7:58:38am

I see by the responses that lots of us get our news from TMZ. LOL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 8:02:13am

re: #184 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I wouldn’t get a gun for rattlesnakes. I work in the field during snake season and have walked right over them, right by them, and almost stepped on them. If you see one, just walk around it.

there are only a few instances in which they are threatening enough to warrant using a gun, I just want to have it there as an option, not a first choice

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 8:02:19am

re: #188 Birth Control Works

I think the one idea that frustates me the most is that the gun nuts thing everyone should have a gun —ignoring their own mantra of “not everyone is a candidate for gun ownership.”

I choose not to own a gun. I honestly have no use for one at all. I don’t live in a high crime area. Hunting nor target shooting isn’t my hobby. I’d rather have my library than an arsenal.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 8:03:56am

Have to go to urgent care in a few —

symptoms:

-sleeping A LOT
-shivers -hot flashes
-coughing up ucky stuff

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:05:01am

re: #175 William Lewis

Buck shot will go through the first wall. When I was in my early 20s I regularly cut mom’s Xmas tree down while duck hunting using bird shot from about 10 feet away, so yeah, it’s powerful. But the dissipation of power is significant and even buck shot won’t carry through the neighbor’s wall…into it, maybe, but not through it.

As for patterns, I agree, which is why I’d recommend bird shot. Dad taught us about spread patterns because he didn’t want us wasting shot (and we did all our own reloading - early recyclers we were). Set butcher paper at several distances on the lawn and we counted the holes. Then he applied those patterns to an imaginary place in the sky and said, “Imagine you want a small bird moving 20mph to be in that spot…where do you aim?” We got a lot of ducks.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 8:05:37am

I do agree with the gun nuts on their idea that everyone should take a basic firearms safety course.

I have benefitted much from the two I took. Just being somewhat familiar with each firearm and having a bit of range time takes most of the fear factor out of the equation.

If someone is pointing a firearm at me, I will at least have a clue what they are holding and probably will be less likely to freeze in fear.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:05:44am

re: #189 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I see by the responses that lots of us get our news from TMZ. LOL.

I only read TMZ for political news.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 8:05:55am

bbl

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Decatur Deb Dec 26, 2016 • 8:06:08am

re: #193 darthstar

Buck shot will go through the first wall. When I was in my early 20s I regularly cut mom’s Xmas tree down while duck hunting using bird shot from about 10 feet away, so yeah, it’s powerful. But the dissipation of power is significant and even buck shot won’t carry through the neighbor’s wall…into it, maybe, but not through it.

As for patterns, I agree, which is why I’d recommend bird shot. Dad taught us about spread patterns because he didn’t want us wasting shot (and we did all our own reloading - early recyclers we were). Set butcher paper at several distances on the lawn and we counted the holes. Then he applied those patterns to an imaginary place in the sky and said, “Imagine you want a small bird moving 20mph to be in that spot…where do you aim?” We got a lot of ducks.

How heavily was the bird laden?

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Unshaken Defiance Dec 26, 2016 • 8:06:38am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

The gun is the last best/worst option. Far more effective is making it very difficult to get into your home easily or quietly. If someone broke in before you get home it’s hopefully visible. or so noisy you wake up and have time to gtfo and call for help.

The more warning you have the less you need anything more violent than fast feet. The new wireless cameras that have motion detection software are very affordable and monitoring becomes an option. No more over priced AT&T with annual expensive contracts. Simplisafe is just one brand, Nest is another.

Surprise is what gets us.

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Unshaken Defiance Dec 26, 2016 • 8:10:01am

re: #194 Birth Control Works

I do agree with the gun nuts on their idea that everyone should take a basic firearms safety course.

I have benefitted much from the two I took. Just being somewhat familiar with each firearm and having a bit of range time takes most of the fear factor out of the equation.

If someone is pointing a firearm at me, I will at least have a clue what they are holding and probably will be less likely to freeze in fear.

Agreed. There are classes for just safety. No shooting, just familiarity for how to safely handle and unload for safekeeping. Safe storage, what to say to a policeman about the gun. We teach the kids stop don’t touch the gun, get an adult. It helps if the adult can safely handle it. Even if loaded, cocked and safety off.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 8:10:17am

TBH, I can understand owning a gun or two more so than owning several. I just get lost when gun nuts I do know brag about their arsenal but also bitch about how the government is taking their hard earned tax dollars. Maybe you don’t need that other gun ya know? Shrug, it’s your money of course but I think you forfeit your right to complain about entitlements when your gun collection looks like it could take on 20 people or even more. The one thing I hate though is having my manhood question because I don’t like guns that much or being told that shooting a gun makes one more of a man. Fuck that shit. I’m sorry. I respect gun ownership, I really do, it’s not for me but don’t question my manhood because of your hobby.

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Blind Frog Belly White Dec 26, 2016 • 8:10:43am

Somebody tested the penetration of shotgun blasts through sheetrock, so there’s actual data.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:10:52am

re: #197 Decatur Deb

How heavily was the bird laden?

Never bit into more than two or three bits of lead eating a duck. 99% of the shot lands in the water.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 8:11:10am

Not saying anyone here does that of course but y’all have seen enough gun memes to know exactly what I’m talking about.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 26, 2016 • 8:11:40am

re: #80 Anymouse

wonkette.com

Wonkette put up their favourite deleted comment for additional mocking.

It was in response to a 2014 Springfield, Massachusetts city councilmember who during the lighting of the city’s menorah said “Jesus is the reason for the season.”

That drew a comment that stands in the annals of stupid comments at Wonkette which has never been topped:

Hanukkah is probably the least important holiday in the Jewish canon (more important than Lag B’Omer, which doesn’t coincide with any significant dates in the non-Jewish calendar) but who gives a shit? It’s fun, and the point of it is to display lights.

Yesterday shopping at Ralph’s in the Valley I saw an old lady wearing a Hanukkah sweater. Good GD it was uglier than any ugly Christmas sweater, blue and silver and sparkly and covered in silly Yiddish cliches. I would have taken a picture on my phone but did not want to invade that old Bubbie’s privacy. Although if I asked to take a selfie with her she would have probably agreed, the purpose of the sweater was to attract attention.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:11:51am

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

Somebody tested the penetration of shotgun blasts through sheetrock, so there’s actual data.

Website blocked by my company’s Sophos security system. I’ll have to look from a linux box later.

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Unshaken Defiance Dec 26, 2016 • 8:13:17am

re: #202 darthstar

Never bit into more than two or three bits of lead eating a duck. 99% of the shot lands in the water.

No lead, tungsten these days. Less toxic.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 8:14:41am

Anyhow guys, I’m going to go back to reading about the Wright Brothers.
SPOILER: They end up flying the plane somewhere in North Carolina.
Seriously though, it’s a good read. It does speak to what I believe about books though. The Wrights had an abundance of books around their house that inspired the imagination.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:14:48am

re: #206 Unshaken Defiance

No lead, tungsten these days. Less toxic.

Now I’ve gone and dated myself. I’m no longer shot literate.

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Romantic Heretic Dec 26, 2016 • 8:14:54am

re: #187 darthstar

In All Quiet On The Western Front the German’s favourite weapon for trench fighting was their entrenching tools. Didn’t get stuck in ribs like bayonets. Could break through steel helmets.

That was the source of my belief that everything is a tool and have no built in ethical qualities. Tools aren’t good or evil. People are.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 26, 2016 • 8:15:31am

re: #124 wheat-dogg

A former student of mine has become Sam from Samantha. Since he went by Sam as a nickname when he was Samantha, I don’t have to worry about goofing up his name. But the beard still throws me for a loop.

Same person, just different gender. Sam is still Sam.

I once had a cat named Sam.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch Dec 26, 2016 • 8:16:12am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there are only a few instances in which they are threatening enough to warrant using a gun, I just want to have it there as an option, not a first choice

I never came across a situation threatening enough, nor has my dad, who spent the past 50 years spending massive amounts of time in the desert doing his field work/studies.

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Blind Frog Belly White Dec 26, 2016 • 8:20:15am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

TBH, I can understand owning a gun or two more so than owning several. I just get lost when gun nuts I do know brag about their arsenal but also bitch about how the government is taking their hard earned tax dollars. Maybe you don’t need that other gun ya know? Shrug, it’s your money of course but I think you forfeit your right to complain about entitlements when your gun collection looks like it could take on 20 people or even more. The one thing I hate though is having my manhood question because I don’t like guns that much or being told that shooting a gun makes one more of a man. Fuck that shit. I’m sorry. I respect gun ownership, I really do, it’s not for me but don’t question my manhood because of your hobby.

I can understand owning a number of guns, but then, I’m a watch collector with >150 watches in my rotation, and another couple dozen needing service. And if you like to shoot as a hobby, as well as hunting, you need a variety.

But owning a gun won’t make you a man, and not owning one won’t make you one, either.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:20:33am

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A vividly cogent piece by @jerrysaltz. Art tells us so much. // Eric Fischl’s Great New Work of American Art https://t.co/0sMds29erm

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Has a kid in an American flag standing by a guy in fetal position and you can see his ass and a bit of his scrotum.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 26, 2016 • 8:25:41am

re: #213 darthstar

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Can you put that into NSFW tags?

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Barefoot Grin Dec 26, 2016 • 8:26:37am

re: #209 Romantic Heretic

In All Quiet On The Western Front the German’s favourite weapon for trench fighting was their entrenching tools. Didn’t get stuck in ribs like bayonets. Could break through steel helmets.

That was the source of my belief that everything is a tool and have no built in ethical qualities. Tools aren’t good or evil. People are.

I won’t get a gun. I guess if I heard someone coming up the stairs I’d grab my telecaster and try bash them in the head or something.

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calochortus Dec 26, 2016 • 8:27:38am

re: #135 Jayleia

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Blind Frog Belly White Dec 26, 2016 • 8:28:16am

re: #215 Barefoot Grin

I won’t get a gun. I guess if I heard someone coming up the stairs I’d grab my telecaster and try bash them in the head or something.

“These go to 11, motherfucker!”
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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:30:27am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Can you put that into NSFW tags?

Done. It’s a powerful piece of art. Are you at work? I can understand eating Chinese yesterday (I did out of necessity as everything else was closed), but take the day off.

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Barefoot Grin Dec 26, 2016 • 8:32:30am

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

“These go to 11, motherfucker!”
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I just have to remember to unplug it….

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 26, 2016 • 8:35:41am

re: #218 darthstar

Done. It’s a powerful piece of art. Are you at work? I can understand eating Chinese yesterday (I did out of necessity as everything else was closed), but take the day off.

We had burgers & deli sandwiches yesterday, going out for Chinese today.

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makeitstop Dec 26, 2016 • 8:35:51am

re: #215 Barefoot Grin

I won’t get a gun. I guess if I heard someone coming up the stairs I’d grab my telecaster and try bash them in the head or something.

Use the Les Paul. Believe me, it’ll do a lot more damage.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 26, 2016 • 8:38:03am

Welp looks like we dodged a bullet flying here yesterday. LAX was slammed the days before Christmas and is slammed now but yesterday all was calm, all was bright, crowded airport not not really more so than any random day of the year.

More flight delays today at #LAX -more than 80 in and out. Most delays to or from Rockies,Midwest &Northeast. We will update @KNX1070 @CBSLA

— Charles Feldman (@knxcharles) December 26, 2016

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gocart mozart Dec 26, 2016 • 8:38:18am

The Pogues Featuring Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York (Official Video)

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Barefoot Grin Dec 26, 2016 • 8:38:25am

re: #221 makeitstop

Use the Les Paul. Believe me, it’ll do a lot more damage.

Don’t want to throw out my back! (I wish I had a Les Paul.)

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BigPapa Dec 26, 2016 • 8:39:58am

Has anyone explained why a Russian military band was flying to perform in Syria?

— Boney Hurdle (@eclecticbrotha) December 26, 2016

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:40:09am

this might be the depression talking but i am SOBBING pic.twitter.com/Mnrhf1q4Kk

— too much (@lifecreep) August 7, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 8:45:48am

The only good story from 2016 pic.twitter.com/B4OJuN4DJK

— TechnicallyRon (@TechnicallyRon) December 26, 2016

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makeitstop Dec 26, 2016 • 8:47:38am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

Don’t want to throw out my back! (I wish I had a Les Paul.)

I have one Gibson and one Epiphone - ‘proper’ LPs, at least. The Gibson is new and weight-relieved, the Epiphone is from 1989 and it’s your proverbial ‘boat anchor’ - around 11 pounds.

I do have a Gibson LP Special, but those don’t weigh anything. One of my mates snapped a pic of me playing it at rehearsal last week.

Click to Reveal

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gocart mozart Dec 26, 2016 • 8:47:44am

Jethro Tull - Christmas Album (2003)

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makeitstop Dec 26, 2016 • 8:49:26am

re: #226 darthstar

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Possums have the smallest brain-to-body mass ratio in the entire animal kingdom.

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Decatur Deb Dec 26, 2016 • 8:51:17am

re: #225 BigPapa

Has anyone explained why a Russian military band was flying to perform in Syria?

USO-ski.

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 8:53:38am

re: #230 makeitstop

Possums have the smallest brain-to-body mass ratio in the entire animal kingdom.

Are you sure about that?

Click to Reveal

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 8:53:47am

re: #230 makeitstop

Possums have the smallest brain-to-body mass ratio in the entire animal kingdom.

Which is why they grin when they eat shit…

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makeitstop Dec 26, 2016 • 8:54:27am

re: #232 darthstar

Are you sure about that?

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Well, besides that one…

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Unshaken Defiance Dec 26, 2016 • 9:07:06am

re: #208 darthstar

Now I’ve gone and dated myself. I’m no longer shot literate.

I’m only up to the minute ‘cause it’s a job I have. Only hunters care. I think the change is a better thing for the environment.

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gocart mozart Dec 26, 2016 • 9:07:28am

The 14th century expression ‘the last trump’ refers to the sound that will accompany the end of the world. pic.twitter.com/7KhGlMFIo3

— Haggard Hawks Words (@HaggardHawks) May 24, 2016

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 26, 2016 • 9:08:03am

If you didn’t hear from the #RNC #Trump is the new #King. Look out #Constitution! #NeverTrump #TheDailyLiberal #TheResistance #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/soal3Ki2Kp

— TheDailyLiberal (@DailyLiberal1) December 26, 2016

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 9:09:05am

re: #235 Unshaken Defiance

I’m only up to the minute ‘cause it’s a job I have. Only hunters care. I think the change is a better thing for the environment.

Agreed. I remember when steel shot came out. A few people complained it didn’t carry as far, but fact is it didn’t hurt our range much at all. But I was waning from the hunting scene about then as well.

My brother still hunts regularly. Brought a smoked pheasant to Xmas eve for snacking. Tasty bird.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:13:17am

2 hour + wait at Urgent Care. I’ll see my doctor tomorrow instead

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 9:14:32am

The ‘Garland vacancy’? Isn’t it the Scalia vacancy? Garland never got to be on the SCOTUS.

Over the course of Obama’s presidency, Senate Republicans changed the rulebook on judicial nominees. https://t.co/V9LhDHrraX #courtsmatter

— PFAW (@peoplefor) December 26, 2016

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:17:19am

re: #205 darthstar

Website blocked by my company’s Sophos security system. I’ll have to look from a linux box later.

In otherwords, ALWAYS POINT THE GUN IN A SAFE DIRECTION.

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sagehen Dec 26, 2016 • 9:17:39am

re: #183 Dr Lizardo

I remember seeing those photos in the Brit tabloids a few months back. He’d definitely put on weight, for whatever reason; maybe he’d quit smoking….that’ll pack on the pounds, to be sure.

Massive weight gain can be a symptom, as much as a cause, of heart trouble.

Wasn’t he a major coke addict back in the day?

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 9:17:58am

I don’t know any of these people but this is a funny exchange.

i am dead pic.twitter.com/LU2kf82gxs

— Gideon Resnick (@GideonResnick) December 26, 2016

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:18:37am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I Waaaaannnnttt ONE!

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Dr Lizardo Dec 26, 2016 • 9:19:04am

re: #242 sagehen

Massive weight gain can be a symptom, as much as a cause, of heart trouble.

Wasn’t he a major coke addict back in the day?

As I recall, I do believe he partook of Bolivian Marching Powder quite copiously back in the day.

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gocart mozart Dec 26, 2016 • 9:20:08am

President-elect #Trump delivers a quick response after #SantaClaus puts him on the naughty list :)#Christmas #BoxingDay #1u #tcot pic.twitter.com/FCuOzNKvs4

— Richard Angwin (@RichardAngwin) December 26, 2016

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:20:17am

Stones have a new Blue’s album out.

Hubby loves it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 9:23:53am

Trump’s Happy Hanukkah tweet is honestly going better than I thought it would pic.twitter.com/zZWm4Bw4qd

— Nicole Silverberg (@nsilverberg) December 25, 2016

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:24:09am

From my fb wayback machine.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 26, 2016 • 9:24:50am

Yesterday while shopping at Ralph’s I heard what I think is THE. MOST. HORRIBLE. CHRISTMAS. MUSIC. EVER. RECORDED.

It was a “jazz styling” (yes the most horrible holiday music is always “jazz stylings” especially when these atrocities are done to traditional tunes because of course) of THE TWELVE DAYS OF CHRISTMAS. Now “The 12 Days” has never been one of my favorite songs because it normally takes about an hour and a half to perform, but with a “jazz styling” the song was playing when I entered the store and was still playing when I checked out my items and left the store.

Fuck all “jazz stylists” on Christmas with a mistletoe branch soaked in cat urine.

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Barefoot Grin Dec 26, 2016 • 9:29:15am

re: #228 makeitstop

I have one Gibson and one Epiphone - ‘proper’ LPs, at least. The Gibson is new and weight-relieved, the Epiphone is from 1989 and it’s your proverbial ‘boat anchor’ - around 11 pounds.

I do have a Gibson LP Special, but those don’t weigh anything. One of my mates snapped a pic of me playing it at rehearsal last week.

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Sweet. When I first began playing (1978, I think) I had an SG Jr. (would be vintage). I traded it for a non-reverse Firebird, which I still have, because—Moar Pickups! I wish I had kept the SG Jr.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 9:31:01am

Turkish newspaper’s cook arrested for ‘insulting Erdogan’ https://t.co/khSlXy9wT6 pic.twitter.com/6bfH3GvfUB

— FRANCE 24 (@FRANCE24) December 26, 2016

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ISTANBUL (AFP) -

A cook from a Turkish opposition newspaper is in custody, accused of insulting President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, after he allegedly said he would not make tea for the country’s leader.

Cumhuriyet, one of Turkey’s few titles that take a hard anti-Erdogan line, has repeatedly found itself targeted by the authorities. Ten of the newspaper’s writers and executives were arrested last month.

The daily said Monday that the head of its canteen, Senol Buran, was remanded in custody by the Istanbul criminal court following his detention on December 24.

The incident in question occurred when Buran was on his way to work to Cumhuriyet’s offices in central Istanbul but found roads were closed as Erdogan was due to give a speech in the area.

Buran is accused of angrily telling police officers: “I would not serve that man a cup of tea”. The newspaper said he denies insulting the president, merely saying that he would not serve the tea.

The judge remanded Buran in custody.

O_o

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:34:09am

When the video for I Want You Sex came out, they wouldn’t air it where I was living in Indiana.

The Rolling Stones - Blue & Lonesome - In the Studio

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:38:08am

teespring.com

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Interesting Times Dec 26, 2016 • 9:40:04am

We’re all gonna die, Part 213:

Could Trump help unleash nuclear catastrophe with a single Tweet?

Yes, arms control experts tell me:https://t.co/i9DLz9hZe7

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) December 26, 2016

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Skip Intro Dec 26, 2016 • 9:48:35am

American business, totally corrupt and only going to get worse under Trump.

Scheme to send drug prices skyrocketing began on ‘Girls Nights’ and on golf courses, lawsuit says

The high prices Americans pay for generic drugs may have been cooked up by pharmaceutical salespeople on golf courses, at a New Jersey steakhouse or over drinks at “Girls Nights Out” in Minnesota.

Details emerging from an investigation show that drug company employees gathered regularly at such places locations and conspired to keep prices and profits high, according to interviews and a complaint filed in U.S. District Court by the attorneys general of 20 states.

“The wining and the dining and the dinners and the social repertoire sort of led to an atmosphere in which follow up conversations could occur (and) where price-fixing could occur … because they had these relationships,” Minnesota Attorney General Lori Swanson said in an interview. “I think people should be absolutely appalled.”

The lawsuit hits home for many middle-class families who have struggled in recent years to pay for generic medications while prices for some drugs soared more than 8,000 percent. The price for a decades-old antibiotic called doxycycline, for example, jumped from $20 for a bottle of 500 pills in October 2013 to more than $1,800 in April 2014.

That price increase hike the result of secret efforts by generic drugmakers to make as much money as possible, the complaint says.

sanluisobispo.com

I doubt that the “new king” is going to do anything but make it worse.

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makeitstop Dec 26, 2016 • 9:49:02am

re: #251 Barefoot Grin

Sweet. When I first began playing (1978, I think) I had an SG Jr. (would be vintage). I traded it for a non-reverse Firebird, which I still have, because—Moar Pickups! I wish I had kept the SG Jr.

I got a Junior this year, a ‘66. It was in a house fire - it didn’t burn and the electronics didn’t melt, but the finish took a beating. I was considering getting it refinished, but I kinda dig the roached-out look of it.

All it cost me was an American Strat that I didn’t like that much.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:54:31am

Helen Mirren Swiftly And Brutally Cuts Donald Trump Down To Size

“I believe in the young, and I certainly believe in young women,” said Mirren stated, adding: “I think young women are entering into a very different world to the world I entered in.”

“I think the dinosaurs will die out,” she concluded.

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 9:56:18am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

Yesterday while shopping at Ralph’s I heard what I think is THE. MOST. HORRIBLE. CHRISTMAS. MUSIC. EVER. RECORDED.

It was a “jazz styling” (yes the most horrible holiday music is always “jazz stylings” especially when these atrocities are done to traditional tunes because of course) of THE TWELVE DAYS OF CHRISTMAS. Now “The 12 Days” has never been one of my favorite songs because it normally takes about an hour and a half to perform, but with a “jazz styling” the song was playing when I entered the store and was still playing when I checked out my items and left the store.

Fuck all “jazz stylists” on Christmas with a mistletoe branch soaked in cat urine.

The only Xmas CD I played in the shop this year is the Latin Jazz stylings of Bobby Rodriguez. I won’t inflict any on you, but I liked it. He’s all over YouTube.

I miss Ralph’s.

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BigPapa Dec 26, 2016 • 9:57:20am

I hate this tweet because it’s too fucking true:

everything is so goddamn stupid and it’s only going to get dumber

— Gideon Resnick (@GideonResnick) November 22, 2016

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 9:57:44am

re: #259 wrenchwench

The only Xmas CD I played in the shop this year is the Latin Jazz stylings of Bobby Rodriguez. I won’t inflict any on you, but I liked it. He’s all over YouTube.

I miss Ralph’s.

I have worked too much retail.

I’d rather be rick rolled than listen to one minute of xmas music .

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Barefoot Grin Dec 26, 2016 • 9:58:00am

re: #257 makeitstop

I got a Junior this year, a ‘66. It was in a house fire - it didn’t burn and the electronics didn’t melt, but the finish took a beating. I was considering getting it refinished, but I kinda dig the roached-out look of it.

All it cost me was an American Strat that I didn’t like that much.

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That’s pretty close. I think the tuning pegs were different. Those look like the ones that came with my Firebird, which I think is ‘66 or ‘67 (hard to make out the serial number anymore).

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gocart mozart Dec 26, 2016 • 9:59:08am

TCM Remembers 2016 https://t.co/cnpZ7Cq5TI

— Khaleesi Hillary (@fleurdeliselle) December 26, 2016

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PhillyPretzel Dec 26, 2016 • 9:59:09am

re: #261 Birth Control Works

Same here. One cannot pay me enough to listen to that stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 10:00:48am

re: #260 BigPapa

everything is so goddamn stupid and it’s only going to get dumber

even in my most optimistic moments I realize that things have to get a lot worse before they can even start getting any better…

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 10:03:16am

re: #261 Birth Control Works

I have worked too much retail.

I’d rather be rick rolled than listen to one minute of xmas music .

Retail is tolerable when you own the whole thing (small as it is) and can kick people out, and not listen to Little Drummer Boy once in 17 years (and twice I’ve kicked people out).

The only music I like that I don’t play while open for business is most of Randy Newman, and Paul Simon’s Songs From The Capeman.

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makeitstop Dec 26, 2016 • 10:05:52am

re: #262 Barefoot Grin

That’s pretty close. I think the tuning pegs were different. Those look like the ones that came with my Firebird, which I think is ‘66 or ‘67 (hard to make out the serial number anymore).

That Bird must be nice. I had a newer one for a while, but I couldn’t play it without knocking stuff over due to its length.

The same reason I moved a pretty nice Explorer. I was like Godzilla in Tokyo with that thing over my shoulder. No mic stand was safe. :)

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 26, 2016 • 10:06:42am

re: #259 wrenchwench

The only Xmas CD I played in the shop this year is the Latin Jazz stylings of Bobby Rodriguez. I won’t inflict any on you, but I liked it. He’s all over YouTube.

I miss Ralph’s.

No thank you. I really hate jazz stylings, but Christmas jazz stylings ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST.

If there are any Hanukkah jazz stylings (I have never heard any but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist) THOSE SUCK TOO.

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Romantic Heretic Dec 26, 2016 • 10:09:00am

re: #215 Barefoot Grin

A hand to hand weapon few people expect; a rolled up magazine. It’s denser and heavier than a piece of wood the same size and shape. Stabbing works better than striking. Go for the groin, sternum, throat, and eyes.

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makeitstop Dec 26, 2016 • 10:09:19am

re: #268 The Vicious Babushka

No thank you. I really hate jazz stylings, but Christmas jazz stylings ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST.

If there are any Hanukkah jazz stylings (I have never heard any but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist) THOSE SUCK TOO.

I heard a new worst Christmas song the other day!

It was a cover of ‘Wonderful Christmas Time’ (why???) that was all auto-tuned out. I never though that song could be worse than the original, but this cover did it.

Thanks, auto-tune!

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 10:12:08am

re: #268 The Vicious Babushka

No thank you. I really hate jazz stylings, but Christmas jazz stylings ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST.

If there are any Hanukkah jazz stylings (I have never heard any but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist) THOSE SUCK TOO.

The weirdest grocery store Muzak experience I had was in California in the late 70s, could have been a Ralph’s; with some Muzak stylings, You Can’t Always Get What You Want came up. The perfect shopping song.

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Skip Intro Dec 26, 2016 • 10:14:25am

re: #268 The Vicious Babushka

California grocery chain stores have the worst music period. It’s almost as though they’re trying to drive people out of their stores, like fast food restaurants do.

And they play it TOO DAMN LOUD!

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 10:15:42am

I always thought dental offices had tacky music. It does get old hearing the same songs over and over again. My Christmas mix this year included Tchaikovsky, the Pogues, Weird Al Yankovic, and Sinatra.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 10:25:22am

Zooborns Xmas:

zooborns.com

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Belafon Dec 26, 2016 • 10:27:42am

So many fucks will need to be given, in 2017. Start growing yours now

— William Gibson (@GreatDismal) December 22, 2016

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Belafon Dec 26, 2016 • 10:31:55am

H/T Balloon Juice:

For your consideration. https://t.co/LBgzHXHJUq pic.twitter.com/gnxQBg4aVJ

— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) December 21, 2016

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… As both an Asian-American and an LGBT American, I have borne witness to some of the most egregious injustices and tragedies of our national history, where both the public and the politicians turned against us to devastating effect. Many know that I grew up in internment camps where we were held without trial or even charge for years, simply because we happened to look like the people who bombed Pearl Harbor. Fewer remember that, as a young man, it was illegal for me in many states to marry a Caucasian person due to antimiscegenation laws. And as a gay man, I stayed deeply in the closet out of fear that I would not find work as an “out” actor. That same fear rendered me silent even as the scourge of the AIDS epidemic in the ’80s and ’90s took so many of our community, while the government turned a blind, callous eye.

But know this: I do not look upon all those difficult years solely as blights in my life. To the contrary, they helped forge who I am today. As both an ethnic and sexual minority, an “outsider” in nearly every sense, I was forced to learn the rules of society very early on. Unlike my straight white male counterparts, out of pure necessity I grew keenly aware of the way our society was ordered. I had to take note of the system so that I did not run afoul of it…

It is axiomatic that little worth fighting for has ever come without a fight. New veterans of our struggle will emerge from the coming clashes. And while we all wish that future generations would not have to face the terror, isolation, and even deadly effects of hatred and bigotry, we are reminded today, more than ever, that the struggle may truly never be over. Enemies of progress, equality, and justice often slip away unnoticed for years, regroup and change their names and strategies, then re-emerge to challenge what we have gained.

This does not mean, however, that we are starting again from ground zero. When they came for my family and my community back in 1942, very few others stood up for us. The Japanese-American community felt alone. Similarly, when drag queens rioted at Stonewall in 1969, the LGBT community also had few allies. But today, when the incoming administration threatened Muslim registries and racial profiling, the progressive response was collective and swift to say we would register as well. When Native Americans camped out in the freezing cold to oppose the Dakota Access Pipeline, veterans came to stand with them. And when Trump began to name a cabinet of homophobic and hateful bigots, communities of all colors and creeds decried it. We truly have grown stronger together, and with each new assault upon our dignity and humanity, we will grow stronger still.

So welcome to the resistance. It’s where the next heroes of our movement will emerge. Be ready. Be vigilant. Be strong.

Bolding mine.

It won’t be easy, but there are those of us who have learned from history.

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makeitstop Dec 26, 2016 • 10:39:50am

My wife tells me that in addition to it being a leap year, we will also have a leap second at midnight on New Year’s Eve.

Because 2016 is determined to overstay its welcome in every way possible.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 10:42:15am

re: #276 Belafon

The Advocate has a Feminism header.

Who knew?
advocate.com

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Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 26, 2016 • 10:44:03am

Reposted from downstairs, in case anyone missed it:

A Mom Anon sends holiday greetings to everyone. Since the daughter and family moved back, she’s running as fast as she can to stay in one place, but she misses us all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 10:45:20am

For Vera Rubin, who was denied her Nobel, who invented my field, who treated me like I had a brain, who died today. https://t.co/MVXYI5Ya6p pic.twitter.com/xUyGsgphp2

— Dr. Chanda 🇧🇧 (@IBJIYONGI) December 26, 2016

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Dr. Rubin’s work on galactic rotation led to her discovery of Dark Matter.

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 10:51:00am

re: #279 Resistance Is Not Futile

Reposted from downstairs, in case anyone missed it:

A Mom Anon sends holiday greetings to everyone. Since the daughter and family moved back, she’s running as fast as she can to stay in one place, but she misses us all.

Thanks for the reposting. I saw it not-logged-in this morning, and planned to go back and upding it, when I remembered. (It’s great to make plans for ‘when you remember’. But not effective unless the remembering is facilitated with notes, reminders like yours, or something.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 10:55:44am

It is now 71F here in the Backwoods.

Forecast calls for 26F tomorrow night.

good freaking grief…

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nines09 Dec 26, 2016 • 10:58:07am

re: #281 wrenchwench

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Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 26, 2016 • 10:59:59am

re: #283 nines09

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Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 26, 2016 • 11:00:43am

re: #281 wrenchwench

I assume that some of our regulars had better things to do (what might that be) than to hang out here on Christmas day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 11:01:10am

re: #285 Resistance Is Not Futile

I assume that some of our regulars had better things (what might that be) than to hang out here on Christmas day.

I am just checking in from time to time

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nines09 Dec 26, 2016 • 11:01:19am

re: #284 Resistance Is Not Futile

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Timothy Watson Dec 26, 2016 • 11:02:20am

From Obama, a final Christmas tribute to the troops he’s led https://t.co/kPWtMgb6Ub

— Timothy Watson (@timothy_watson) December 26, 2016

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 11:03:29am

re: #283 nines09

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 11:10:45am

re: #284 Resistance Is Not Futile

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 11:12:53am

majii hasn’t made it to the front page yet (she’s commenting in Pages) but it’s good to see her post-election re-entry here.

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nines09 Dec 26, 2016 • 11:13:42am

re: #289 wrenchwench

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PhillyPretzel Dec 26, 2016 • 11:15:24am

re: #291 wrenchwench

That is why I keep coming back to this weblog. It is one of the very few places where I can come and discuss politics and very few people will attack me.

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Jayleia Dec 26, 2016 • 11:17:30am

re: #293 PhillyPretzel

*throws bag of flaming dog poop at PhillyPretzel*

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darthstar Dec 26, 2016 • 11:18:37am

re: #272 Skip Intro

California grocery chain stores have the worst music period. It’s almost as though they’re trying to drive people out of their stores, like fast food restaurants do.

And they play it TOO DAMN LOUD!

Our local organic store streams Sirius’ The Bridge. Mellow classic rock. It’s nice because I can get out of my car in the middle of a song and finish it when I get into the store.

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PhillyPretzel Dec 26, 2016 • 11:18:58am

re: #294 Jayleia

::: Washing it down with fire hose :::

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 11:29:20am

For those who like that style of music, I just stumbled on Avenged Sevenfold’s newest album “The Stage”. Came out around Halloween but I missed it till now. Hard rock/metalcore/black metal with lyrics inspired by Stephen Hawking, Carl Sagan & Elon Musk and has a spoken word appearance on the last track “Exist” by Neil deGrasse Tyson. A very interesting and different kind of album. The last album of theirs was very inconsistent - some great tracks and some drek - but this is good all around. A nice way to sit and read and drink beer knowing I don’t have to work tonight.

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gocart mozart Dec 26, 2016 • 11:37:08am

My favorite Dali. What do you see: Abraham Lincoln or a naked woman looking out a window?

What do you see? pic.twitter.com/azKpZ1zF7R

— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) December 26, 2016

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William Lewis Dec 26, 2016 • 11:38:47am

re: #298 gocart mozart

My favorite Dali. What do you see: Abraham Lincoln or a naked woman looking out a window?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 11:40:16am

re: #298 gocart mozart

My favorite Dali. What do you see: Abraham Lincoln or a naked woman looking out a window?

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I see Lincoln, but he has a nekkid butt for a chin…

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Resistance Is Not Futile Dec 26, 2016 • 11:41:43am

re: #298 gocart mozart

Is that a crucifixion in the lower right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 11:43:25am

Why is the Obama team waging war against Israel?why are they taking steps to isolate and then kill a democracy and an ally?

— Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) December 26, 2016

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US giving Israel $3B in aid = “waging war.” Gingrich is a dangerous moron https://t.co/8H0YPzjOWM

— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) December 26, 2016

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Joe Bacon Dec 26, 2016 • 11:43:34am

re: #272 Skip Intro

California grocery chain stores have the worst music period. It’s almost as though they’re trying to drive people out of their stores, like fast food restaurants do.

And they play it TOO DAMN LOUD!

Still remember when Ralph’s played Fox Radio. I continually complained along with others and I took my business to Vons.

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sagehen Dec 26, 2016 • 11:44:27am

A show that was on PBS recently, an eight-part documentary about music and recording… now on Hulu. Recommend.

hulu.com

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mmmirele Dec 26, 2016 • 11:45:45am

re: #261 Birth Control Works

I have worked too much retail.

I’d rather be rick rolled than listen to one minute of xmas music .

I’ve worked retail before, and usually it was so noisy during Christmas shopping that you couldn’t hear the music. At the end of the night (this was back in the day when stores closed at 10 pm), after we’d chase the customers out and try to put the toy department at Target back in some semblance of order, then we’d hear the xmas music.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 11:49:04am

re: #293 PhillyPretzel

That is why I keep coming back to this weblog. It is one of the very few places where I can come and discuss politics and very few people will attack me.

I was always impressed by the civil nature of discourse here. flame wars are rare and quickly ended.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 11:54:15am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Waging war? Really Newt. Fuck you.

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nines09 Dec 26, 2016 • 11:54:22am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is Newt Gingrich Forever Disgraced Former Speaker Of The House And Two Time Adulterer That We Know Of And Plastic Surgery Aficionado For His Latest Piece Of Trim even a voice in this world?

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 11:54:53am

If Bibi had pulled the stunt he did with the help of Democrats in Congress to undermine a Democratic President, Bibi would be on their shit list forever.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 11:55:36am

re: #308 nines09

Why is Newt Gingrich Forever Disgraced Former Speaker Of The House And Two Time Adulterer That We Know Of And Plastic Surgery Aficionado For His Latest Piece Of Trim even a voice in this world?

That is the unfortunate thing about Twitter. Instead of fading away into obscurity witn wife numbero tres, Newt has to stay relevant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 11:56:19am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Waging war? Really Newt. Fuck you.

It is a matter of Republican Faith that Obama hates Israel and wishes to see it destroyed before the Biblical End Times Prophecies can be fulfilled, thus clinching his role as The Antichrist

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gocart mozart Dec 26, 2016 • 11:56:21am

re: #299 William Lewis

You have to look at it from 15 feet away to see lincoln.

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Sherlock Hound Dec 26, 2016 • 11:56:28am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Not saying anyone here does that of course but y’all have seen enough gun memes to know exactly what I’m talking about.

“Free men own guns. Slaves don’t.”

I don’t carry.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 11:57:58am

re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is a matter of Republican Faith that Obama hates Israel and wishes to see it destroyed before the Biblical End Times Prophecies can be fulfilled, thus clinching his role as The Antichrist

Yep even though Republican presidents have been just as tough on Israel as Obama and in fact had actual antisemites like Buchanan as advisers.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 11:58:10am

re: #313 Sherlock Hound

“Free men own guns. Slaves don’t.”

I don’t carry.

Yeah stuff like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 11:58:17am

re: #313 Sherlock Hound

“Free men own guns. Slaves don’t.”

I don’t carry.

nobody is truly free if they have to carry a weapon everywhere to ensure their basic rights

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 11:59:59am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Yep even though Republican presidents have been just as tough on Israel as Obama and in fact had actual antisemites like Buchanan as advisers.

They do not give a shit about Israel as a nation or the Jews as a people, they just need it as the venue for the realization of their pathetic End Times Prophecies.

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nines09 Dec 26, 2016 • 12:00:02pm

re: #310 HappyWarrior

Sunday Morning TV shows. I never got that either. “Why tell us, Pat Buchanan, you deranged shit stain, just why you are here?” Why, you pay me, John.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 12:00:10pm

Honestly, I think the Israelis should look at how many nations throughout the world voted for this resolution. Of course, I just don’t see Bibi doing that since Bibi I feel doesn’t value the peace process at all not to mention has a pathetic vendetta against Obama that could perhaps be to due to his own bigotry.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 12:00:21pm

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They do not give a shit about Israel as a nation or the Jews as a people, they just need it as the venue for the realization of their pathetic End Times Prophecies.

Exactly.

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BigPapa Dec 26, 2016 • 12:00:25pm

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

nobody is truly free if they have to carry a weapon everywhere to ensure their basic rights

I’m free because I go everywhere with an AR-15, multiple clips, bullet proof vest, and bacon bullets. Freedom isn’t free.

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 12:01:00pm

re: #318 nines09

Sunday Morning TV shows. I never got that either. “Why tell us, Pat Buchanan, you deranged shit stain, just why you are here?” Why, you pay me, John.

Yeah Pat Buchanan should have faded into obscurity years ago.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 12:01:33pm

re: #321 BigPapa

I’m free because I go everywhere with an AR-15, multiple clips, bullet proof vest, and bacon bullets. Freedom isn’t free.

Costs a buck oh-five…

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 12:01:45pm

Fake flower. It’s a bug! And a feature!

Hymenopus coronatus (known as orchid mantis) is from Malaysia, Indonesian & Sumatran rain forests. #bestcamouflage pic.twitter.com/BiFmqu5VST

— Limary Gutierrez (@lima_g_bean) March 30, 2016

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HappyWarrior Dec 26, 2016 • 12:03:31pm

re: #324 wrenchwench

Fake flower. It’s a bug! And a feature!

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sagehen Dec 26, 2016 • 12:03:40pm

re: #324 wrenchwench

Fake flower. It’s a bug! And a feature!

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How can something that creepy not be Australian?

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mmmirele Dec 26, 2016 • 12:04:07pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 12:04:26pm

Power and Glory

Come and take a walk with me thru this green and growing land
Walk thru the meadows and the mountains and the sand
Walk thru the valleys and the rivers and the plains
Walk thru the sun and walk thru the rain

Here is a land full of power and glory
Beauty that words cannot recall
Oh her power shall rest on the strength of her freedom
Her glory shall rest on us all (on us all)
From Colorado, Kansas, and the Carolinas too
Virginia and Alaska, from the old to the new
Texas and Ohio and the California shore
Tell me, who could ask for more?
Yet she’s only as rich as the poorest of her poor
Only as free as the padlocked prison door
Only as strong as our love for this land
Only as tall as we stand

[ extra verse supplied by Sonny Ochs ]
But our land is still troubled by men who have to hate
They twist away our freedom & they twist away our fate
Fear is their weapon and treason is their cry
We can stop them if we try

—Phil Ochs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 12:04:46pm

re: #326 sagehen

How can something that creepy not be Australian?

they have no monopoly on creepy, just an incredibly high concentration of lethal plants and animals…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 12:07:13pm

re: #324 wrenchwench

Fake flower. It’s a bug! And a feature!

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wrenchwench Dec 26, 2016 • 12:08:49pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

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freetoken Dec 26, 2016 • 12:10:23pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is now 71F here in the Backwoods.

You’re much warmer that us out here in the corner of the country.

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Jayleia Dec 26, 2016 • 12:11:11pm

re: #326 sagehen

Creepy is one thing.

A Tarrasque subspecies that spits a poison made out of fire is Australian.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 26, 2016 • 12:11:35pm

re: #332 freetoken

You’re much warmer that us out here in the corner of the country.

72F now and the wind is roaring up on the ridgetops.

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BigPapa Dec 26, 2016 • 12:12:02pm

Wait.. there’s and Orchid Mantis, and a Mantis Orchid?

As long as there’s no Kitten Sharks/Shark Kittens I’m cool with that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 12:13:22pm

re: #335 BigPapa

Wait.. there’s and Orchid Mantis, and a Mantis Orchid?

As long as there’s no Kitten Sharks/Shark Kittens I’m cool with that.

Have you been watching Dirk Gently on Netflix?

Pretty lame series except for the flying hammerhead kitten shark.

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Charles Johnson Dec 26, 2016 • 12:13:38pm

.@KurtSchlichter is pitifully whining about being persecuted by those awful liberal fascists again. https://t.co/KAXKhWjkkQ

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 26, 2016

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BigPapa Dec 26, 2016 • 12:13:48pm

re: #332 freetoken

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Jayleia Dec 26, 2016 • 12:15:26pm

re: #335 BigPapa

As long as there’s no Kitten Sharks/Shark Kittens I’m cool with that.

Actually…

…and they’re Australian…

…they have naturally occurring laser beams

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 12:15:36pm

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

nobody is truly free if they have to carry a weapon everywhere to ensure their basic rights

It is the right to self-defense that defines freedom.

One must have the right to defend oneself, one’s child and one’s property from imminent danger by whatever means possible.

Imminent Danger seems to be the biggest legal conundrum.

ala: Travon

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Blind Frog Belly White Dec 26, 2016 • 12:15:43pm

Snopes Co-Founder Accused Of Embezzling Company Money, Spending It On Prostitutes https://t.co/AfjCSpPhNc pic.twitter.com/yFYjlDhAAt

— The Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) December 26, 2016

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Sounds like somebody the GOP could get behind for President, because it sounds like somebody the GOP DID get behind for President.

Except for the ‘caring about facts’ part.
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 12:16:07pm

re: #337 Charles Johnson

Kurt Schlichter is pitifully whining about being persecuted by those awful liberal fascists again

Just as we are able to say “Merry Christmas” again under President Trump, he will make it possible for us to finally put an end to liberal fascist persecution.

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 12:16:55pm

re: #321 BigPapa

I’m free because I go everywhere with an AR-15, multiple clips, bullet proof vest, and bacon bullets. Freedom isn’t free.

Freedom isn’t to be confused with bullying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 12:17:23pm

re: #340 Birth Control Works

Imminent Danger seems to be the biggest legal conundrum.

ala: Travon

Just make sure you leave no living witnesses to contradict your version of events…

…and it helps if the victim is of a thuggish color or background.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 12:18:34pm

re: #343 Birth Control Works

Freedom isn’t to be confused with bullying.

You sound like whiny PC snowflake…get a gun and stand up to those bullies!!!

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freetoken Dec 26, 2016 • 12:18:46pm

The Trump Epoch, where reality is optional:

‘Orwellian’: Scott Walker admin. quietly scrubs mentions of ‘climate’ from ‘Climate Change’ website

[…]

Political writer James Rowen reported on Monday that the Walker administration had advanced their war on science by scrubbing information about climate change from a Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources website that was dedicated to explaining how the agency would deal with a warming planet.

The DNR page titled “climatechange.html” originally acknowledged that “[h]uman activities that increase heat-trapping (‘green house’) gases are the main cause [of global warming.] Earth´s average temperature has increased 1.4 °F since 1850 and the eight warmest years on record have occurred since 1998.”

In all, 13 mentions of “climate” where stripped from the page along with all references to global warming. The word “climate” now appears only in the title of a footnote link at the bottom of the page.

[…]

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Birth Control Works Dec 26, 2016 • 12:19:58pm

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You sound like whiny PC snowflake…get a gun and stand up to those bullies!!!

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The right-to-carry nuts don’t seem to understand the threat they impose on others. They do seem like bullies.

It’s a matter of perception that, I think, lies with the open-carry crowd.

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gocart mozart Dec 26, 2016 • 12:20:05pm

This did make me laugh out loud. For real. pic.twitter.com/t1mFigfETg

— Humanity vs Trump (@Humans_vs_Trump) December 26, 2016

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Blind Frog Belly White Dec 26, 2016 • 12:20:11pm

re: #336 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have you been watching Dirk Gently on Netflix?

Pretty lame series except for the flying hammerhead kitten shark.

We got through one episode. I realize that the very nature of it is to be confusing, but the title character’s sprinting through his lines was really annoying.

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ObserverArt Dec 26, 2016 • 12:20:20pm

Greetings from the mild climes of central Ohio. Currently 60° and looking like rain about to hit.

It was so mild this morning, with even some sun, I went outside and did some yard work I didn’t get finished before the first snow and real dip in temps a few weeks back.

Now I hope to get caught up a bit with this thread. I guess the missiles haven’t started launching yet, so that’s good.

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Romantic Heretic Dec 26, 2016 • 12:21:15pm

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m always carrying the most powerful weapon known to man.

It’s between my ears and I’m not afraid to use it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 12:21:50pm

re: #349 Blind Frog Belly White

We got through on episode. I realize that the very nature of it is to be confusing, but the title character’s sprinting through his lines was really annoying.

I just had it on for background noise while working in the kitchen. It is pretty lame and trying too desperately hard to be Seattle hip.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 26, 2016 • 12:22:40pm

re: #351 Romantic Heretic