And Now for Something Surreal: “Royals,” Featuring Puddles Pity Party

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Our friend Puddles (from Puddles Pity Party) joined us for this cover of Lorde’s “Royals.” For the uninitiated: Puddles is a 7 foot tall sad clown with a voice like Tom Jones. You can check out his wanderings on here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Puddles-Pity-Party/119022418110476 and https://www.youtube.com/user/PuddlesPityParty

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The band:
Puddles the Clown - lead vocals
Robyn Adele Anderson & Cristina Gatti - backup vocals
Adam Kubota - bass
Allan Mednard - drums
Scott Bradlee - piano & arranger

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wheat-dogg  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:19:49pm

My college holds its annual year-end show tonight, and rehearsals are all afternoon. With most of my students rehearsing, I just called off classes for the afternoon. And I have to be there at 5 pm for my “spoken word” segment. So, I’m hanging out at home till the time comes.

Puddles has a great voice, BTW.

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:27:39pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:39:24pm

Back in my salad days I read Thomas Sowell’s column religiously. His books are indeed engrossing and thoughtful. Sometime in the mid-aughts he turned into a irredeemable wingnut which only got worse when Obama was elected. Then his column just turned into an angry tirade against anything remotely progressive. He regularly compared Obama to Hitler, railed against the “welfare state,” and continually decried the downfall of polite society because of our “sick culture.” He probably voted for Trump, I have no idea that he actually did (I quit reading his column years ago).

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wheat-dogg  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:39:50pm

Strong words, but I think NZ is safe as long as it doesn’t relocate to the Mediterranean.

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:40:44pm

re: #4 wheat-dogg

Did I miss something? So New Zealand and Israel are at war now?

Bibi is a psychopath.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:43:17pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

Did I miss something? So New Zealand and Israel are at war now?

Bibi is a psychopath.

NZ was one of the nations voting to condemn Israel for the settlements. Bibi is seriously butthurt.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:47:01pm

You know, I get really tired of people equating anti-Semitism with opposition to Israeli political decisions. Case in point:

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:51:06pm
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Anymouse  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:51:56pm

re: #4 wheat-dogg

Strong words, but I think NZ is safe as long as it doesn’t relocate to the Mediterranean.

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I imagine New Zealanders are taking this with all the seriousness they should (none).

Movie two of tonight’s double feature (Elvira, Mistress of the Dark) is over.

I can think of a few folk that Elvira’s casserole contribution to the picnic in the movie might be good for.

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Anymouse  Dec 27, 2016 • 10:58:13pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg

Notice Israel did not suspend working ties with the nation whose vote actually made a difference by abstaining on the resolution (ours).

Still need all that military aid sent by our wingnuts so they can provide socialised medicine, housing, and abortion-on-demand in Israel.

Funny how conservatives seem to think those are a good idea for Israel (to the point we finance it), but not for us.

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2016 • 11:00:33pm

re: #10 Anymouse

Well, the wingnuts need Israel around so their sick fucking visions of The Book of Revelation can come true in their lifetimes, socialistic government be damned.

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Anymouse  Dec 27, 2016 • 11:06:47pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

Well, the wingnuts need Israel around so their sick fucking visions of The Book of Revelation can come true in their lifetimes, socialistic government be damned.

Yup. Conservatives (at least the evangelical ones) are no friends of Israel. Their whole belief system depends on Armageddon happening there.

I suspect that is part of the reason why conservatives keep wanting to (or do) foster warfare in Asia Minor. They’re trying to bring about their religious auto-da-fe with the power of the US military and foreign policy.

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Anymouse  Dec 27, 2016 • 11:43:31pm

Likely true: Jesus never said “Merry Christmas.”

Jesus hated Jesus, QED. Checkmate, conservatives. /s

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Amory Blaine  Dec 27, 2016 • 11:53:41pm

The Sundays - Here’s Where The Story Ends

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Amory Blaine  Dec 27, 2016 • 11:57:24pm

King Missile- Jesus was way cool.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 28, 2016 • 12:00:40am

The Stranglers - Peaches

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2016 • 12:02:30am
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Sure. After Aleppo has been completely destroyed.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 28, 2016 • 12:05:15am

The Stranglers - Nice ‘N’ Sleazy

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Anymouse  Dec 28, 2016 • 12:18:02am

Off-topic:

I just got back from carrying the trash out to the Dumpster.

The snow is frozen so hard I did not sink through it nor left any footprints.

My wife says that’s proof I need to put on more weight. (She is always on me about my weight—she thinks I am a waif.)

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Amory Blaine  Dec 28, 2016 • 12:26:32am

Discharge-Protest And Survive

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Anymouse  Dec 28, 2016 • 12:29:19am

Land of Confusion cover by Chicago band Disturbed.

Disturbed - Land Of Confusion [Official Music Video]

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Amory Blaine  Dec 28, 2016 • 12:40:49am

Fugazi-Waiting room

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Amory Blaine  Dec 28, 2016 • 12:51:01am

Cold War Kids - “Hang Me Up To Dry”

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Amory Blaine  Dec 28, 2016 • 1:02:37am

Pixies - Where Is My Mind (Official Video)

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Amory Blaine  Dec 28, 2016 • 1:38:21am

I watched a populist leader rise in my country. That’s why I’m genuinely worried for America.

Hungary, my country, has in the past half-decade morphed from an exemplary post-Cold War democracy into a populist autocracy. Here are a few eerie parallels that have made it easy for Hungarians to put Donald Trump on their political map: Prime Minister Viktor Orban has depicted migrants as rapists, job-stealers, terrorists and “poison” for the nation, and built a vast fence along Hungary’s southern border. The popularity of his nativist agitation has allowed him to easily debunk as unpatriotic or partisan any resistance to his self-styled “illiberal democracy,” which he said he modeled after “successful states” such as Russia and Turkey.

No wonder Orban feted Trump’s victory as ending the era of “liberal non-democracy,” “the dictatorship of political correctness” and “democracy export.” The two consummated their political kinship in a recent phone conversation; Orban is invited to Washington, where, they agreed, both had been treated as “black sheep.”

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 28, 2016 • 1:47:17am
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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 28, 2016 • 2:26:46am

I think “Jabba the Trump” has a nice ring to it. I hope to see it more often.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2016 • 2:30:12am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2016 • 2:36:37am
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(Been awhile since I’ve done morning links.)

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Anymouse  Dec 28, 2016 • 2:55:05am

re: #29 Timothy Watson

Navy Times has been covering this case for a while now.

navytimes.com

(link is the search result at Navy Times for all Fat Leonard articles - there are fifty of them)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 3:48:07am

re: #5 teleskiguy

Did I miss something? So New Zealand and Israel are at war now?

Bibi is a psychopath.

We need to interview the Flight of the Conchords and see if this will affect their Holy Lands Tour coming up this spring.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 3:49:23am

re: #11 teleskiguy

Well, the wingnuts need Israel around so their sick fucking visions of The Book of Revelation can come true in their lifetimes, socialistic government be damned.

Yes, they give not a f*ck about Israel or its peoples (unless they all convert). That is a nuance that is lost in a lot of the shouting match (there is no discussion as such) on Israel.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 28, 2016 • 4:30:36am

Aww fuck me… updating Win7 on my main pc and .NET broke Task Scheduler (MMC snap in won’t load, FX error). The usual fix works but it turns out that the .NET update borks my Intel RST software and the update for that gives me a big ol’ BSOD (iastor.sys, go figure!). I roll the system back and it fucks my Task Scheduler fix!

Back to fixing that and resuming update Hell…

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Anymouse  Dec 28, 2016 • 4:32:38am

Trump selects his corporate lawyer to fill a new position of “special representative for international relations,” Jason Greenblatt.

Trump has so far refused to sell his shares in the Trump Organization, claiming that he can avoid any conflict of interest by simply turning over the management of the real estate development company to his two adult sons, and pledging not to talk to them about the business while he is president.

By naming Greenblatt to his administration, Trump is tapping someone who has limited experience in foreign affairs or trade policy, yet has expert knowledge of the multinational Trump Organization, and of what would be in the best interests of the company.

More about Mr. Trump eliminating the wall between his business operations and the US Government at Huffington Post here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 5:02:16am

re: #34 Anymouse

Trump selects his corporate lawyer to fill a new position of “special representative for international relations,” Jason Greenblatt.

More about Mr. Trump eliminating the wall between his business operations and the US Government at Huffington Post here.

People who voted for Trump did it because they do not fucking care about such conflicts. They just want America made great by showing foreigners and domestic minorities their true place in the functioning of government, business and society.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 28, 2016 • 5:37:24am

Morning Lizards.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 28, 2016 • 5:50:07am

Weather report says it might rain on the Rose Parade on Monday? Ah might by a warning sign from The Big G…

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jeffreyw  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:08:08am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:10:31am

re: #38 jeffreyw

Good morning!

Girlfriend will be back from the ‘States on Friday…I asked her to bring back some thick-sliced bacon for New Year’s breakfast.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:12:07am

re: #38 jeffreyw

I prefer my snausage more caramelized; nice salt and pepper dusting on the eggs.

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jeffreyw  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:21:50am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Girlfriend will be back from the ‘States on Friday…I asked her to bring back some thick-sliced bacon for New Year’s breakfast.

Where are you that bacon has to be imported?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:22:36am

re: #41 jeffreyw

Where are you that bacon has to be imported?

Germans don’t get the concept of thick-sliced bacon. Their version of it is a bit too smokey for my taste. Danish bacon is okay.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:28:46am

Facebook Post

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:29:32am

Trump wades into the Israel UN SCR kerfuffle with typical ignorance and veiled threats.

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Israel has no greater friend than the US. $38 billion in arms sales approved by President Obama this year is still more proof that the US will support Israel even when Israel does some things that the US finds wrong - like continuing to build settlements in areas that make peace less likely.

Obama refuses to veto a single SCR and the GOP/Trump twits/Bibi go apopletic. They have a very short memory (especially for Trump and his twits), considering that Reagan allowed a multitude of SCRs calling out Israel for its actions - whether it was the attack on the Iraqi nuclear reactor, or going into Lebanon or hitting the PLO, etc. GWB and GHWB also followed a similar blueprint. Reagan pushed sales of AWACS to the Saudis even though Israel’s security was harmed by the deal.

So, no Obama isn’t anti-Israel or even anti-Semitic.

But a whole lot of Trump supporters and close confidants are.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:31:31am

Trump knows a fine whine when he is on Twitter:

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Trump’s transition has been rocky because he doesn’t know what he’s doing and picks people based on their appearances rather than on their skills or knowledge. Because it’s better to look good than to be good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:34:16am

re: #44 lawhawk

Trump wades into the Israel UN SCR kerfuffle with typical ignorance and veiled threats.

So, no Obama isn’t anti-Israel or even anti-Semitic.

But a whole lot of Trump supporters and close confidants are.

Yes, in the factual sense. But in the Alternate media Reality, he is a Muslim Nazi.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2016 • 6:41:42am

re: #44 lawhawk

Trump wades into the Israel UN SCR kerfuffle with typical ignorance and veiled threats.

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Israel has no greater friend than the US. $38 billion in arms sales approved by President Obama this year is still more proof that the US will support Israel even when Israel does some things that the US finds wrong - like continuing to build settlements in areas that make peace less likely.

Obama refuses to veto a single SCR and the GOP/Trump twits/Bibi go apopletic. They have a very short memory (especially for Trump and his twits), considering that Reagan allowed a multitude of SCRs calling out Israel for its actions - whether it was the attack on the Iraqi nuclear reactor, or going into Lebanon or hitting the PLO, etc. GWB and GHWB also followed a similar blueprint. Reagan pushed sales of AWACS to the Saudis even though Israel’s security was harmed by the deal.

So, no Obama isn’t anti-Israel or even anti-Semitic.

But a whole lot of Trump supporters and close confidants are.

Trump’s approach to Israel will be much like Reagan’s to South Africa: Making up all sorts of excuses for its continued slide into apartheid and status as a pariah state on the flimsy argument that it’s a “democracy” that is fighting with us against “radical Islam.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:03:22am

re: #7 wheat-dogg

You know, I get really tired of people equating anti-Semitism with opposition to Israeli political decisions. Case in point:

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Exactly. Kerry and Obama never attacked the Jewish people. They have a problem with Israeli policy. There’s a difference. Bannon edited Anti-Semitic screeds and didn’t want his daughters attending a Jewish school because of his beliefs about the Jewish people. There’s a difference and I’m sick of it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:06:41am

re: #4 wheat-dogg

Strong words, but I think NZ is safe as long as it doesn’t relocate to the Mediterranean.

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Bibi’s an asshole. I am glad we’re allies with Israel but Bibi is making things hard for people who understand Israel by being a blockhead to everyone who doesn’t think what he does is right. It’s dangerous not just for those countries but for Israeli relations going forward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:07:27am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Kerry and Obama never attacked the Jewish people. They have a problem with Israeli policy. There’s a difference. Bannon edited Anti-Semitic screeds and didn’t want his daughters attending a Jewish school because of his beliefs about the Jewish people. There’s a difference and I’m sick of it.

Again: Judaism is not Zionism.

But this is all irrelevant to a large group of people who do not give a shit about Israel or the Jews: they just need Israel as a green-screen background for their sick-as-fuck End Days Prophecy fantasies.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:09:04am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again: Judaism is not Zionism.

But this is all irrelevant to a large group of people who do not give a shit about Israel or the Jews: they just need Israel as a scene setting for their sick-as-fuck End Days Prophecy fantasies.

Exactly. Judaism isn’t Zionism. This is disagreeing with a country’s policies not the people who live there’s ethno-religious background.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:12:33am

Let me blunt here. It’ll be a good day for the peace process when Bibi leaves office. I remember Rabin. Rabin was a great man who literally gave his life to work for peace. Bibi is a demagogue jerk who showed more respect to President Obama’s opposition on talk radio than he ever did to President Obama these past eight years. Bibi not only is an ass, he’s a dumbass too, he endangers Israel’s relationships with its allies by continuing with the settlements, something that as we saw last week, a wide range of countries condemn. I don’t consider myself Anti-Israel at all but I really wish Bibi would cut this crap out.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:13:36am
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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:21:11am

re: #52 HappyWarrior

Let me blunt here. It’ll be a good day for the peace process when Bibi leaves office. I remember Rabin. Rabin was a great man who literally gave his life to work for peace. Bibi is a demagogue jerk who showed more respect to President Obama’s opposition on talk radio than he ever did to President Obama these past eight years. Bibi not only is an ass, he’s a dumbass too, he endangers Israel’s relationships with its allies by continuing with the settlements, something that as we saw last week, a wide range of countries condemn. I don’t consider myself Anti-Israel at all but I really wish Bibi would cut this crap out.

Bibi and Trump get along well because they’re both power-hungry assholes who are prepared to rub shoulders with the worst elements of their respective societies to attain and keep hold of power. There’s a certain cosmic irony in the strongman leader of a Jewish state that relies upon hardliners to keep himself in power joining forces with the new strongman leader of America whose rise to power was upon a platform of antisemitism and racist bigotry. Not since Molotov-Ribbentropp has the universe found a bigger “WTF” moment.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:39:03am

*pokes thread with a stick*

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:39:47am

re: #54 Targetpractice

Bibi and Trump get along well because they’re both power-hungry assholes who are prepared to rub shoulders with the worst elements of their respective societies to attain and keep hold of power. There’s a certain cosmic irony in the strongman leader of a Jewish state that relies upon hardliners to keep himself in power joining forces with the new strongman leader of America whose rise to power was upon a platform of antisemitism and racist bigotry. Not since Molotov-Ribbentropp has the universe found a bigger “WTF” moment.

And Molotov-Ribbentrop ended poorly for the people of both Germany and the USSR. But yes, that’s why Bibi and Trump hit off so well despite the fact that Trump has a lot of Antisemitic bigots working for him. It’s just frustrating because Israel by doing this really does isolate itself and feeds Anti-Israel propaganda. I understand Bibi thinks he’s protecting his country by doing this but he’s being reckless.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:40:31am

re: #55 Targetpractice

*pokes thread with a stick*

Ow! Quit It!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:43:47am

re: #57 Timothy Watson

Ow! Quit It!

Ow! Quit It!

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:45:47am

re: #56 HappyWarrior

And Molotov-Ribbentrop ended poorly for the people of both Germany and the USSR. But yes, that’s why Bibi and Trump hit off so well despite the fact that Trump has a lot of Antisemitic bigots working for him. It’s just frustrating because Israel by doing this really does isolate itself and feeds Anti-Israel propaganda. I understand Bibi thinks he’s protecting his country by doing this but he’s being reckless.

Bibi is protecting Bibi, that’s really what these moves are about. He doesn’t pursue peace because the settlers don’t want to give up their land, the companies building those settlements don’t want to lose the revenue, and their political allies don’t want to lose power. And in promoting these forces, Bibi is putting Israel into the same sort of situation that South Africa once existed in, a pariah state that is reliant on us for its continued existence. Which only furthers the aim of nations like Russia, who wish to portray us as a nation of hypocrites who make a lot of noise about “freedom” and “liberty” as we support dictators and autocrats.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:46:25am

Anyhow Bibi lost any respect I might have had for him when he went with the GOP in Congress used the platform of the U.S Congress to bash the Iran Deal. I have no problem with Bibi expressing his displeasure over that deal in his own country or in the press but he went too far when he used the Congress of the country of the man whose deal he was opposed to bash it. I mean his blatant support for Romney in 2012 rubbed me the wrong way but that wasn’t out of bounds, tacky maybe but nothing something unique and something our own country had done but it’s not like Obama has ever addressed the Knesset to bash Bibi’s policies.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:48:13am

re: #59 Targetpractice

Bibi is protecting Bibi, that’s really what these moves are about. He doesn’t pursue peace because the settlers don’t want to give up their land, the companies building those settlements don’t want to lose the revenue, and their political allies don’t want to lose power. And in promoting these forces, Bibi is putting Israel into the same sort of situation that South Africa once existed in, a pariah state that is reliant on us for its continued existence. Which only furthers the aim of nations like Russia, who wish to portray us as a nation of hypocrites who make a lot of noise about “freedom” and “liberty” as we support dictators and autocrats.

It really is dangerous what he’s doing. What he’s doing is exactly why I wanted Israeli voters to throw him out on his ass. He’s hurting his nation’s image in the eyes of the nations. It really should have told Bibi alot about the various nations who voted on the resolution and the reaction in the UN Chamber over the vote but he doubled down. He’s isolating Israel further by doing that. South Africa is a great example.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:50:49am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

It really is dangerous what he’s doing. What he’s doing is exactly why I wanted Israeli voters to throw him out on his ass. He’s hurting his nation’s image in the eyes of the nations. It really should have told Bibi alot about the various nations who voted on the resolution and the reaction in the UN Chamber over the vote but he doubled down. He’s isolating Israel further by doing that. South Africa is a great example.

Thing is, the more Bibi isolates Israel, the more he can claim that keeping him in power is the only way to protect Israel. That his political adversaries are the tools of those very nations trying to subvert the Israeli people’s will. And (in true Bibi fashion) claiming that those nations wish to finish what the Nazis started and only by defying them can the Jews of Israel avoid a repeat of the Holocaust.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:54:56am

re: #62 Targetpractice

Thing is, the more Bibi isolates Israel, the more he can claim that keeping him in power is the only way to protect Israel. That his political adversaries are the tools of those very nations trying to subvert the Israeli people’s will. And (in true Bibi fashion) claiming that those nations wish to finish what the Nazis started and only by defying them can the Jews of Israel avoid a repeat of the Holocaust.

Right, that’s another reason why it’s dangerous what he does. Our ties to Israel despite what the Fundies believe have long been in based with our shared democratic ties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:56:02am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Right, that’s another reason why it’s dangerous what he does. Our ties to Israel despite what the Fundies believe have long been in based with our shared democratic ties.

and principles like accessible and state-funded abortions and gays in the military…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:56:56am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and principles like accessible and state-funded abortions and gays in the military…

Secular government yep.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 7:59:25am

Bibi will turn around and cite the UN SCR as proof that BDS is real and an existential threat, even though Bibi has enabled the BDSers through continuing to expand settlements in areas that are an impediment to peace. He’s attacking nations that have close ties to Israel (much in the same way Trump has attacked NATO, Japan, France, the UK, etc.) which undermines Israel’s economy in the long term.

He’s more intent on getting back at Obama for some perceived slight or personal vendetta than doing his job as Prime Minister of Israel.

The US allows a single UN SCR to go through on Obama’s watch, and he gets all out of joint. I get it - it’s Obama’s parting shot at Bibi and Trump. That’s what we’re supposed to think that eight years of Bibi sniping at Obama and Israel getting unconditional support all that time, and Obama’s the anti-Israel extremist who set the gears in motion for the UN SCR.

Israel needs to get its own house in order - and it starts with finding leaders who are willing to make peace - not just talk about peace while pushing an extremist agenda that emboldens hardliners. Bibi is no Sharon, let alone a Rabin or Begin. Israel needs someone like the latter - someone willing to take the chance on peace.

In the same way, Palestinians need someone willing to take the chance too - and there too they are lacking.

Both Israel and the Palestinians are intent on missing opportunities to move towards peace. And Trump will facilitate those missed opportunities once in office by enabling Israeli hardliners and emboldening Palestinian hardliners to undermine any moderates who might think peace is in Palestinians’ best interests.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:04:55am

Good morning. Love that voice Puddles Pity Party has. Then I got this visual in my head. If this guy ever takes the stage with Buckethead I want to be the photog.

Today is chainsaw day at the homestead. Old hazardous citrus trees gotta go. Make room for the gravel truck And the wood chipper. Sure hope the neighbors are not day sleepers.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:09:42am

re: #66 lawhawk

Bibi will turn around and cite the UN SCR as proof that BDS is real and an existential threat, even though Bibi has enabled the BDSers through continuing to expand settlements in areas that are an impediment to peace. He’s attacking nations that have close ties to Israel (much in the same way Trump has attacked NATO, Japan, France, the UK, etc.) which undermines Israel’s economy in the long term.

He’s more intent on getting back at Obama for some perceived slight or personal vendetta than doing his job as Prime Minister of Israel.

The US allows a single UN SCR to go through on Obama’s watch, and he gets all out of joint. I get it - it’s Obama’s parting shot at Bibi and Trump. That’s what we’re supposed to think that eight years of Bibi sniping at Obama and Israel getting unconditional support all that time, and Obama’s the anti-Israel extremist who set the gears in motion for the UN SCR.

Israel needs to get its own house in order - and it starts with finding leaders who are willing to make peace - not just talk about peace while pushing an extremist agenda that emboldens hardliners. Bibi is no Sharon, let alone a Rabin or Begin. Israel needs someone like the latter - someone willing to take the chance on peace.

In the same way, Palestinians need someone willing to take the chance too - and there too they are lacking.

Both Israel and the Palestinians are intent on missing opportunities to move towards peace. And Trump will facilitate those missed opportunities once in office by enabling Israeli hardliners and emboldening Palestinian hardliners to undermine any moderates who might think peace is in Palestinians’ best interests.

As always, you said it much better than I could LH.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:15:56am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again: Judaism is not Zionism.

But this is all irrelevant to a large group of people who do not give a shit about Israel or the Jews: they just need Israel as a green-screen background for their sick-as-fuck End Days Prophecy fantasies.

Those End Times fantasies are also a significant reason that Christian fundies are so opposed to the peace process; if peace really did break out in the Middle East (images of people all joining hands and singing “Kumbaya” aside) that would largely serve to invalidate the Book of Revelation.

And they can’t have that, now can they?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:35:23am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Those End Times fantasies are also a significant reason that Christian fundies are so opposed to the peace process; if peace really did break out in the Middle East (images of people all joining hands and singing “Kumbaya” aside) that would largely serve to invalidate the Book of Revelation.

And they can’t have that, now can they?

That’s what pisses me off the most about Fundies. They really are totally uninterested in peace in the ME. It’s sick.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:40:45am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:41:18am

re: #71 Jenner7

[t]agging him in this tweet is entirely inappropriate.

Yeah, that’s the inappropriate part of this whole mess.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:47:23am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:47:54am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Those End Times fantasies are also a significant reason that Christian fundies are so opposed to the peace process; if peace really did break out in the Middle East (images of people all joining hands and singing “Kumbaya” aside) that would largely serve to invalidate the Book of Revelation.

And they can’t have that, now can they?

and that is some really deeply dark sick shit

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electrotek  Dec 28, 2016 • 8:50:28am

This is a shocker. Right-leaning Forbes Magazine has issued a rather provocative headline titled Sanction Myanmar And Give The Rohingya A State Of Their Own

The persistent repression and lack of representation suffered by the Rohingya gives them a right to their own state in the Rakhine region of Myanmar. The international community has a moral imperative to support the Rohingya , and pressure Myanmar through economic sanctions . If the Myanmar government dislikes that idea and wants to keep Rakhine State, it should rapidly correct its provision of human rights to the Rohingya and repatriate the Rohingya refugees.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:04:59am

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electrotek  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:06:12am

re: #81 HappyWarrior

He’s right. It’s like that in any relationship really. If my boss told me I did a perfect job and had no room for growth, how would I grow? Maybe not the best analogy but I guess the point is, it does Israel no good at all to have the U.S. never critique them.

Doesn’t help with the Confederate flag-waving pro-Israel fucktards, of course.

Because of them, they managed to turn the Israeli flag into a symbol of intimidation towards their opponents. They wave the flag as an attempt to intimidate Muslims as well.

It’s bullshit.

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ObserverArt  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:07:49am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Bibi deserves Trump. They’re both miserable bastards.

The people of this world don’t deserve either. But, here we are.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:10:40am

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:17:24am

We got my Dad’s DNA results back today. 2/3’s Ireland and Great Britain. Very interesting since he’s pretty much 1/2 German and 1/2 Irish. It’s funny since he always has said that he feels he and his oldest sister had more of their father’s German traits than their mother’s Irish. Now we see what happens with my Mom.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:19:48am

Nothing brings out the fact-free nonsense like an Arab-Israeli conflict tweet or commenting about US response to Israel and Palestinian obstructionism and failure to negotiate over past 8 years (mind you, the US didn’t force them together into a room to hash things out as GHWB tried to do, like GWB tried to do, like Bill Clinton tried to do, etc.)

No, Obama failed because he decided not to waste time on parties who weren’t willing to work towards a peace treaty.

So, pointing this out is a problem. So too is trying to distinguish between the Arab Israeli conflict and every other conflict in world history (or how the US obtained lands from Mexico through wars and such). You know, there is a difference between peace treaties and UN SCRs that ended a war without treaties - they’re cease fires, which means that the state of war is still existent.

There are peace treaties with Israel and Jordan and Egypt, and those involved land for peace and other tradeoffs. This is the wages of the Cold War. The US held Israel back from marching on Damascus and Cairo in 1967 and 1973. Israeli planes buzzed both capitals with impunity by the end of those conflicts. The Cold War froze the gains/losses for the Israelis/Arabs in place, setting the terms.

Those terms are still what defines the Arab-Israeli conflict and more specifically the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. It’s what defined and shaped Oslo and the existence of the Palestinian Authority. So land for peace is still part of the whole deal, and questioning Israel’s motives for building more settlements in disputed areas is still an issue Israel can’t adequately answer.

At the same time, settlements aren’t the only impediment - not when the parties refuse to talk and work towards peace. That’s a failure of their respective leadership.

All this takes nuance - and that’s simply not what Trump twits and right wingers want to hear.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:22:07am

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:22:53am

re: #86 HappyWarrior

We got my Dad’s DNA results back today. 2/3’s Ireland and Great Britain. Very interesting since he’s pretty much 1/2 German and 1/2 Irish. It’s funny since he always has said that he feels he and his oldest sister had more of their father’s German traits than their mother’s Irish. Now we see what happens with my Mom.

It’s funny how ancestry adds up, though. I never thought of my Grandfather as Irish. Born in the Pittsburgh, a 3rd Generation son of the South Side. Good, solid English surname.

But his mother was Irish, so that’s 1/2. And his father’s mother was Irish, so that’s 3/4. And his Grandfather’s mother was Irish, so that’s 7/8. He was 7/8 Irish.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:24:25am

re: #88 CuriousLurker

Mark my words: Once sworn in, Von ClownStick will soon be claiming to have single-handedly “saved” Israel (never mind that it’s been around, off & on for 3000+ years).

I trust him to have no other strategy in place other than a comprehensive and detailed media strategy on how to claim full and personal credit for anything that appears positive while blaming Obama and the Democrats for anything that goes wrong.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:29:00am

re: #87 lawhawk

One of the things that bugged me most about Netanyahu’s response was (I’m paraphrasing): What about all the people dying in Syria??

WTF does Syria have to do with settlements? Talk about a red herring. The Syrian Civil War started during the Arab Spring, back in 2011. I don’t recall Netanyahu expressing a lot of concern for Syrians in the five intervening years, so STFU and stop using their suffering to shield yourself from criticism.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:31:28am

Gotta run, BBL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:31:41am

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sec. Kerry: “Let’s be clear, settlement expansion has nothing to do with Israel’s security.”

The motto behind nearly every totalitarian state: Expand or Die!!!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:31:53am

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s funny how ancestry adds up, though. I never thought of my Grandfather as Irish. Born in the Pittsburgh, a 3rd Generation son of the South Side. Good, solid English surname.

But his mother was Irish, so that’s 1/2. And his father’s mother was Irish, so that’s 3/4. And his Grandfather’s mother was Irish, so that’s 7/8. He was 7/8 Irish.

Yep. It’s funny how it all works out. Dad’s family were all Pittsburgh North Siders, Allegheny City types before Allegheny merged with Pittsburgh in the early 1900’s. I think this result does give me some perspective on his mom’s paternal grandmother. We suspect she was Irish but we don’t know fur sure since as you get at, the surname can only tell you so much.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:32:52am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:32:55am

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gocart mozart  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:34:14am
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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:36:34am

re: #93 CuriousLurker

One of the things that bugged me most about Netanyahu’s response was (I’m paraphrasing): What about all the people dying in Syria??

WTF does Syria have to do with settlements? Talk about a red herring. The Syrian Civil War started during the Arab Spring, back in 2011. I don’t recall Netanyahu expressing a lot of concern for Syrians in the five intervening years, so STFU and stop using their suffering to shield yourself from criticism.

He did have concern (rightly IMO) that rebels or Hizbullah or IS could fill the vacuum left by Assad and pose a threat to Israel across the DMZ. There’s been some allowance that civilians receive medical care in Israel, but you’re also right that he’s using the Syrian conflict to deflect from his government’s actions that are wrong.

At the same time, there’s also a legit grievance that the UN spends more time on Israel, which is a stable situation (no widespread violence, not open conflict) while the civil war/insurrection/terrorist takeover in neighboring Syria (with spillover in Iraq) is a greater threat to the region and with a greater loss of life. It’s a persecution complex, but it doesn’t help Israel either (and Israel has been dealing with this kind of thing for decades, so it’s not new or unexpected).

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gocart mozart  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:39:48am

This is weird and awesome.

David Byrne Interview

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:41:43am
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ObserverArt  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:42:22am

re: #87 lawhawk

Nothing brings out the fact-free nonsense like an Arab-Israeli conflict tweet or commenting about US response to Israel and Palestinian obstructionism and failure to negotiate over past 8 years (mind you, the US didn’t force them together into a room to hash things out as GHWB tried to do, like GWB tried to do, like Bill Clinton tried to do, etc.)

No, Obama failed because he decided not to waste time on parties who weren’t willing to work towards a peace treaty.

So, in a way Obama is faulted because he didn’t keep up the appearances of peace settlements in the works.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:46:09am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

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electrotek  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:50:35am

re: #93 CuriousLurker

One of the things that bugged me most about Netanyahu’s response was (I’m paraphrasing): What about all the people dying in Syria??

WTF does Syria have to do with settlements? Talk about a red herring. The Syrian Civil War started during the Arab Spring, back in 2011. I don’t recall Netanyahu expressing a lot of concern for Syrians in the five intervening years, so STFU and stop using their suffering to shield yourself from criticism.

He’s the king of whataboutisms when it suits him.

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electrotek  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:52:02am

re: #101 lawhawk

He did have concern (rightly IMO) that rebels or Hizbullah or IS could fill the vacuum left by Assad and pose a threat to Israel across the DMZ. There’s been some allowance that civilians receive medical care in Israel, but you’re also right that he’s using the Syrian conflict to deflect from his government’s actions that are wrong.

At the same time, there’s also a legit grievance that the UN spends more time on Israel, which is a stable situation (no widespread violence, not open conflict) while the civil war/insurrection/terrorist takeover in neighboring Syria (with spillover in Iraq) is a greater threat to the region and with a greater loss of life. It’s a persecution complex, but it doesn’t help Israel either (and Israel has been dealing with this kind of thing for decades, so it’s not new or unexpected).

Don’t forget that there are some in the pro-Palestine camp that have exposed their moral bankruptcy to levels not seen in the past by being shills for Bashar al-Assad while decrying Israel on a regular basis (i.e. Max Blumenthal, Rania Khalek, etc.)

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bratwurst  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:55:32am

The Israeli opposition (such as it is) leader:

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gocart mozart  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:57:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2016 • 9:58:39am

not sure what this is all about (Price is spokesman for the NSC at the White House). There is much arguing and many insults flying in the thread.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:00:55am
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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:02:06am

So, what exactly did Kerry say should be the parameters for peace deal:

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Yeah, that’s a total knife in the back … for the Palestinians? Wait. What?

Palestinians have long sought a right of return. Kerry says forget it.
Palestinians have wanted to retain ability for demographic overwhelming of Israel; this slaps that.

Kerry also indicates that Israel is a Jewish State - which is beyond anything in UN SCR 242, 338, etc. Recognizes the unique nature of Israel and its security needs.

This is hardly the anti-Israel diatribe Bibi and his bloviators make it out to be.

Again, nuance is lost on these people.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:02:32am

re: #108 bratwurst

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Great to see that. The world needs to know that not every Israeli supports Bibi’s pigheaded approach.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:04:08am
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Someone looks like they’ve been paying attention.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:04:57am

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And this is exactly why I liked Kerry for President 12 years ago. He’s a smart guy who understands the complex realities of issues. Trump certainly doesn’t understand them. Obama and Clinton did.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:06:40am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is where Netanyahu jumps to conclusions unsupported by Kerry’s actual statements or positions, which are far more pro-Israel than he would ever care to publicly admit.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:08:39am

re: #113 lawhawk

Kerry’s parameters: Settlement blocs to join Israel, recognition as a Jewish state, no right of return, adhere to Israel’s security needs..

So, pretty much everything that Israel has been demanding for two decades?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:09:24am

I hate to say it but Bibi’s actions are exactly why a lot of people don’t think too highly of Israel. I admit it, it’s a two way street but there’s a lot of people who wonder why we remain allies with Israel when Bibi does stuff like this. They don’t know the full history and complexities of the issues involved but they do know that ti rubs them the wrong way when a longtime ally (the US) is treated as an adversary for not agreeing with what Bibi wants 100% of the time.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:09:56am

re: #119 Timothy Watson

So, pretty much everything that Israel has been demanding for two decades?

Yep but Kerry had the nerve to suggest that the settlements stops so he’s on Bibi the Baby’s shitlist.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:13:57am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:14:02am

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:15:25am

Just want to know how much Republicans and the right would “love Israel” if they weren’t led by someone like Bibi. I think you’d see the true Antisemitism that exists on the right exposed even more if that were the case.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:16:44am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Just want to know how much Republicans and the right would “love Israel” if they weren’t led by someone like Bibi. I think you’d see the true Antisemitism that exists on the right exposed even more if that were the case.

How many Republicans know about Israel’s liberal abortion policy?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:17:48am

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

How many Republicans know about Israel’s liberal abortion policy?

Or its policy of allowing women and gays to serve in its military and in combat. Or its health care policy. Shit as much as I dislike Bibi, he doesn’t care about either of those.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:18:18am

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

How many Republicans know about Israel’s liberal abortion policy?

Israel and Ronald Reagan are things that conservatives view through selectively rose-tinted glasses, as the reality would not fit into their ideology or world view

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KGxvi  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:19:32am

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Entry #1:
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Having to be in front of the TV at a specific time on a specific day of the week if you wanted to watch a new episode of your favorite show.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:20:35am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Mom, I’m on the Internet. HANG UP THE PHONE!

When the only designer phone out there was a Princess.

When the only phone company was Ma Bell.

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KGxvi  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:22:41am

re: #131 lawhawk

Mom, I’m on the Internet. HANG UP THE PHONE!

When the only designer phone out there was a Princess.

When the only phone company was Ma Bell.

How about, having to look up phone number prefixes in the yellow pages to figure out which numbers the modem could call (while avoiding long distance charges) to get you on the internet? And then hoping those numbers weren’t busy…

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:23:35am

re: #132 KGxvi

Or knowing what BBS had the best baud rates and connectivity.

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gocart mozart  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:24:07am

Longer Carrie Fisher Star Wars Audition

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:24:32am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:26:36am

re: #129 KGxvi

Entry #1:
The phone in the kitchen (one of two in the house, the other being in mom and dad’s room), having a cord that was about 10 feet long so you could walk around the kitchen while talking.

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Having to be in front of the TV at a specific time on a specific day of the week if you wanted to watch a new episode of your favorite show.

Having to be around a specific device (radio, record or tape player) if you wanted to listen to a particular piece of music.

For my kids here in Europe: Having to exchange money if you wanted to travel to a different country.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:26:44am

re: #131 lawhawk

Mom, I’m on the Internet. HANG UP THE PHONE!

When the only designer phone out there was a Princess.

When the only phone company was Ma Bell.

I dressed as a phone booth for Halloween in 1977. I’d walk up to people and hand them the handset and say, ‘It’s for you.’. I could only approach old people now.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:27:15am

Pumpkin Pinochet.

LMAO.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:27:20am

re: #129 KGxvi

Entry #1:
The phone in the kitchen (one of two in the house, the other being in mom and dad’s room), having a cord that was about 10 feet long so you could walk around the kitchen while talking.

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Having to be in front of the TV at a specific time on a specific day of the week if you wanted to watch a new episode of your favorite show.

Mixtapes.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:27:23am

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Pumpkin Pinochet. That’s brilliant.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:27:38am

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Dial-up internet (America Online, ugh), VCR tapes, separate 3D video card for your computer to play videogames.

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Huh? Lynch is investigating Bibi?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:29:14am

Looks like we have a great new nickname for his Orangness, Charles. Mind if I use it among friends and family?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:29:45am

re: #131 lawhawk

Mom, I’m on the Internet. HANG UP THE PHONE!

When the only designer phone out there was a Princess.

When the only phone company was Ma Bell.

I’ve always wanted an Ericofon.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:30:16am

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That’s the ringtone on my phone. Dialup handshake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:30:25am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Huh? Lynch is investigating Bibi?

Israeli AG

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:31:13am

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

Israeli AG

Ohhhh. Very very interesting development.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:32:25am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Ohhhh. Very very interesting development.

Obviously a plot from Obama and Soros.

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nines09  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:32:40am

re: #136 Charles Johnson

It really is disturbing to see and hear Trump publicly whine and cry every single day. Here he is, fabulously wealthy, so he says, with only the best in his life, a winner, with a fantastic family. Any and everything he wants he can have at the snap of his tiny fingers. He’s even going to be President Of The United States Of America. And he cries. Every. Single. Day. Whines. Every. Sigle. Day.
There is never enough of anything for Trump. All is not enough.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:32:50am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Ohhhh. Very very interesting development.

And now suddenly Trump supporters and proxies are going to be experts on the Israeli justice system and how they are persecuting Nethanyahu…

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Skip Intro  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:33:18am

Dow drops 73 points.

THANKS, DONALD!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:35:38am

re: #151 nines09

It really is disturbing to see and hear Trump publicly whine and cry every single day. Here he is, fabulously wealthy, so he says, with only the best in his life, a winner, with a fantastic family. Any and everything he wants he can have at the snap of his tiny fingers. He’s even going to be President Of The United States Of America. And he cries. Every. Single. Day. Whines. Every. Sigle. Day.
There is never enough of anything for Trump. All is not enough.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Textbook case.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:37:23am

re: #151 nines09

It really is disturbing to see and hear Trump publicly whine and cry every single day. Here he is, fabulously wealthy, so he says, with only the best in his life, a winner, with a fantastic family. Any and everything he wants he can have at the snap of his tiny fingers. He’s even going to be President Of The United States Of America. And he cries. Every. Single. Day. Whines. Every. Sigle. Day.
There is never enough of anything for Trump. All is not enough.

Money can buy happiness, but only if you know what happiness is.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:37:30am

re: #109 gocart mozart

Okay, that was weird.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:40:47am

re: #151 nines09

It really is disturbing to see and hear Trump publicly whine and cry every single day. Here he is, fabulously wealthy, so he says, with only the best in his life, a winner, with a fantastic family. Any and everything he wants he can have at the snap of his tiny fingers. He’s even going to be President Of The United States Of America. And he cries. Every. Single. Day. Whines. Every. Sigle. Day.
There is never enough of anything for Trump. All is not enough.

Really. There’s a not a single day that isn’t filled with a whiny tweet or unncesssary bragging. Man the guy’s a pathetic baby.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:41:05am

re: #156 wrenchwench

Money can buy happiness, but only if you know what happiness is.

Happiness is a warm pun.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:43:51am

re: #156 wrenchwench

Money can’t buy happiness, but it can get a berthing spot for your yacht so you can walk to it. - David Lee Roth

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:45:55am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And now suddenly Trump supporters and proxies are going to be experts on the Israeli justice system and how they are persecuting Nethanyahu…

Oh of course.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:46:10am

re: #153 Skip Intro

Dow drops 73 points.

THANKS, DONALD!

Yeah, where’s his tweet blaming himself for the drop? Oh yeah, bad stuff = Obama, good stuff = The Don

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:47:22am

re: #162 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, where’s his tweet blaming himself for the drop? Oh yeah, bad stuff = Obama, good stuff = The Don

You have just summed up his media strategy, the only strategy he seems to have right now…

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:48:22am

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And he doesn’t disappoint:

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Interesting Times  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:48:38am

Ha:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:50:15am

re: #164 Targetpractice

And he doesn’t disappoint:

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To which the whole world outside of Bibi, his inner circle, and people who find fault with everything the Obama administration does shake their damn heads.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:50:36am

And there is always a bright side to look on. My 75 year old landlord is digging up the sewer in front of the building I rent from him. GREAT time to be a renter. Who knew the bright side was in the sewer?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:50:46am

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Of course, they do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:52:54am

re: #165 Interesting Times

The Republican Party wasn’t an anti-science, anti-immigrant reactionary force completely intolerant of bipartisan compromise.

There was a time when I could at least consider voting for a GOP candidate in various elections…

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:53:55am

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So the GOP decides to follow Israel’s lead and turn America into a pariah state.

Brilliant!////

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:54:37am

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Childish Bibi. Grow the fuck up and actually talk to Obama like a man instead of being a petulant child.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:54:58am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:55:41am

re: #172 Targetpractice

So the GOP decides to follow Israel’s lead and turn America into a pariah state.

Brilliant!////

It really as I’ve said should tell Israel and the GOP something that so many different nations voted yes on this resolution. Israel is making a big mistake by doubling down on this. If Bibi were actually a real leader instead of a reactionary dick, he’d realize that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:56:38am

Maybe it’s naive of me but I wouldn’t be shocked if some of Bibi’s problems with Obama are race related. We’ve seen how racism isn’t unique to the American right. Why should the Israeli right be immune from it as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:56:39am

re: #173 wrenchwench

“Lately, food is a better business than drugs.” When the Venezuelan military took over hunger relief, it took a cut.

We are all addicted to food. Incurably.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:57:14am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Maybe it’s naive of me but I wouldn’t be shocked if some of Bibi’s problems with Obama are race related. We’ve seen how racism isn’t unique to the American right. Why should the Israeli right be immune from it as well.

Ask Sammy Davis Jr.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2016 • 10:59:49am
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jaunte  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:04:01am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Childish Bibi. Grow the fuck up and actually talk to Obama like a man instead of being a petulant child.

Petulant Child seems to be the hot trend in world leaders lately.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:04:21am

re: #180 Charles Johnson

Kurt’s comments are completely off the rails, all while he ignores actual fact that Trump’s constituency is filled with anti Semites and actual neo Nazis:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:05:04am

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Petulant Child seems to be the hot trend in world leaders lately.

People like leaders who speak their language.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:06:45am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ask Sammy Davis Jr.

Or Ethiopian Jews in Israel?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:08:14am

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Oh fuck you Kurt. Really f-u-c-k you. There are people inside Bibi’s own country that don’t agree with him. Who the fuck are you to liken them to people who cooperated in genocide, you pathetic fuck.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:09:00am

I have to wonder, as I watch Netanyahu - what’s his endgame? He’s pursuing policies that seem entirely focused on the near term.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:09:08am

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Yeah Huckabee who eats tons of pork is such a true Jew. Really Christian conservatives, you don’t get to insult the millions of Jews who don’t lick Bibi’s asshole like you do and deny their Judaism.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:09:40am

re: #189 Blind Frog Belly White

I have to wonder, as I watch Netanyahu - what’s his endgame? He’s pursuing policies that seem entirely focused on the near term.

I don’t know. He’s reckless though. I really wish Israel had rejected him when they had the chance.

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nines09  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:10:07am

re: #156 wrenchwench

I always joked money can’t buy happiness, but it’s makes being unhappy a whole lot easier.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:11:36am

re: #186 Timothy Watson

Or Ethiopian Jews in Israel?

Yeah I’ve read about that. Just saying, I don’t know if Bibi being racially prejudiced isn’t part of why he’s a dick to Obama or he’s an equal opportunity dick given how he’s treating Kerry who has Jewish ancestry for what it’s worth.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:14:32am

You know though, I defended Israel when Carter IMO wrongly called it an Apartheid State. I’ve long felt that boycotts of Israel by former colonial powers were hypocritical in tone. But when Bibi has continued to trash the Obama administration, an administration that has been a good friend to Israel and honestly far better than Republican administrations who actually do have Antisemittes in them, I get mad. Bibi has shown a complete lack of respect to President Obama from Day 1 and it cumulated when he chose to undermine Obama in Obama’s own country’s Congress. Obama wouldn’t do something like that to Bibi in Israel. Bibi is isolating Israel even more and he’s hurting not helping Israel’s image on the international stage. As I said earlier, it will be a good day for the peace process when Bibi is gone.

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nines09  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:17:05am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

You know though, I defended Israel when Carter IMO wrongly called it an Apartheid State. I’ve long felt that boycotts of Israel by former colonial powers were hypocritical in tone. But when Bibi has continued to trash the Obama administration, an administration that has been a good friend to Israel and honestly far better than Republican administrations who actually do have Antisemittes in them, I get mad. Bibi has shown a complete lack of respect to President Obama from Day 1 and it cumulated when he chose to undermine Obama in Obama’s own country’s Congress. Obama wouldn’t do something like that to Bibi in Israel. Bibi is isolating Israel even more and he’s hurting not helping Israel’s image on the international stage. As I said earlier, it will be a good day for the peace process when Bibi is gone.

Think of it this way. Bibi sees how Putin played King Pimp and he wants in on the action. The crying from the ignoramuses proves him correct. The GOP is falling all over itself to do just what they always do. Make money from failure. History is for losers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:20:50am
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That’s because seniors aren’t thinking straight, and millenials are. We elected a guy who’s likely to rubberstamp wholesale cuts of Medicare and Social Security in the name of ‘solvency’. But don’t call then stupid or gullible!

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stpaulbear  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:40:15am

re: #168 wrenchwench

And there is always a bright side to look on. My 75 year old landlord is digging up the sewer in front of the building I rent from him. GREAT time to be a renter. Who knew the bright side was in the sewer?

The sewer system in my neighborhood is hand chiseled into the bedrock (my house was built in 1895) and there’s an individual perpendicular chiseled tunnel to each house about 30’ below grade. At the end of each tunnel is a shaft drilled into the stone that connects to the waste line of each property. This shaft is not lined with pipe, it is just stone.

My sewer line backed up one summer and, after firing the first plumber and hiring a plumbing contractor who knew the neighborhood, they discovered that a piece of rock had fallen over in the shaft and blocked it.

The city does not allow these stone shafts to be repaired or redrilled. If it fails, the city made you drill a new shaft and have the city sewer reconfigured for the new shaft. They said this would cost about $20,000. When I said I didn’t have $20,000, they told me that they offered loans at very reasonable rates.

In the meantime, the plumbing company was pounding at the tipped stone with a metal rod until they’d managed to break half of the stone away and unblock the clogged shaft. They told me they would have brought in equipment to redrill the shaft if they weren’t afraid of being caught by a city inspector.

That happened about 10 years ago. There haven’t been any issues since, but every time I think about it I feel like I’m sitting on a time bomb. Now I’m old enough to move into some local senior rental housing, and I’m thinking about getting in sooner than later so that I’m not here if it fails again.

There are definitely benefits to being a tenant rather than an owner.

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stpaulbear  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:46:04am

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

This senior is feeling depressed as hell about the economy (and everything else) after this election.

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stpaulbear  Dec 28, 2016 • 11:46:40am

…and of course now the thread is dead.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 28, 2016 • 5:02:47pm

re: #21 Anymouse

Now I like that video-segues nicely with what’s happeing today.


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