Obama Announces Measures to Punish Russia for 2016 Election Interference, Trump Still Denies It

The election was illegitimate

Today, the other shoe dropped; the Obama administration announced some fairly strong measures to punish Russia for interfering in our presidential election.

The new measures include sanctions on two Russian intelligence agencies, three companies that are believed to have provided support for government cyber operations, and four Russian cyber officials. The administration will also shut down Russian-owned facilities in Maryland and New York that Obama said where used for intelligence activities and would declare 35 Russian operatives “persona non grata,” meaning they would be required to leave the United States.

[Read the executive order released by the White House]

The State Department said it is taking action against these 35 individuals in response to Russia’s interference in the U.S. election and to the harassment of U.S. diplomats overseas over the last four years.

“The harassment has involved arbitrary police stops, physical assault, and the broadcast on State TV of personal details about our personnel that put them at risk,” according to a statement from State Department spokesperson Mark C. Toner.

Obama also suggested Thursday the United States may undertake covert activity in response to Russian activities.

What strikes me as absolutely bizarre about this whole mess: I can’t understand why, in the face of sanctions and FBI/CIA reports that Russia definitely interfered in our election, we’re still going ahead with the inauguration of Donald Trump. If it’s serious enough to eject diplomats, shut down Russian facilities and threaten covert action — how can we still pretend this was a legitimate presidential election?

I don’t know what anyone could do, but it’s incredibly dismaying to see the United States just going ahead with this farce and installing the most dangerously unqualified president in our nation’s history.

Meanwhile, Trump is still running interference for Russia. Yes, that’s Don King grinning next to him as he blathers incoherently.

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183 comments

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Sir John Barron  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:56:24pm
Meanwhile, Trump is still running interference for Russia.

Yes but when Trump wins the GOP nomination he’ll pivot to being more responsible and statesmanlike.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:56:33pm

I surprised the talking yam hasn’t been on twitter bitching about this

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:56:34pm

The spin is in place: if the Russians hacked us, it was Obama’s fault for making us weak.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:57:08pm

re: #2 Bubblehead II

I surprised the talking yam hasn’t been on twitter bitching about this

I suspect that his handlers have taken his phone from him and flushed down a gold toilet…

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:57:15pm
What strikes me as absolutely bizarre about this whole mess: I can’t understand why, in the face of sanctions and FBI/CIA reports that Russia definitely interfered in our election, we’re still going ahead with the inauguration of Donald Trump. If it’s serious enough to eject diplomats, shut down Russian facilities and threaten covert action — how can we still pretend this was a legitimate presidential election?

I don’t know what anyone could do, but it’s incredibly dismaying to see the United States just going ahead with this farce and installing the most dangerously unqualified president in our nation’s history.

Because we have no system in place for handling something like this. It would require Republicans in Congress to work with Democrats to fix it, and it might mean they would lose power.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:58:23pm

re: #3 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The spin is in place: if the Russians hacked us, it was Obama’s fault for making us weak.

And the push back is that you don’t allow foreign governments to mess with the US, period.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:58:41pm

re: #5 Belafon

Because we have no system in place for handling something like this. It would require Republicans in Congress to work with Democrats to fix it, and it might mean they would lose power.

Just as we have no system in place to force Congress to fill a Supreme Court vacancy until it wants to…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:59:15pm

“long overdue”

bite me, you blatant obstructionists…

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:59:46pm

Because at the end of the day, enough voters in enough places decided to throw the lever for the Putin-picked pumpkin. And there’s no way to suss out who voted on the basis of the agitprop/psyops campaign, and who voted for any other reason.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven, but there’s no turning back. We’re on the highway to hell, thanks to Trump, Putin, and a bunch of feckless media types who decided to ignore the brazen corruption and foul stench surrounding Trump at all times, to focus on Clinton emails that simply don’t identify any criminal acts.

Ryan has already made it clear that if Russia hacked the US, it was because Obama allowed/enabled it. The GOP is intent on blaming Obama for the failure of the intel community and law enforcement to respond, even if the FBI was too busy trying to spin the election in Trump’s favor with hastily and completely bogus claims just days before the election.

Take a bow Vlad. You won the White House, and the GOP has rolled out the carpet for you because they think that they benefit in the end.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2016 • 12:59:58pm

re: #6 Belafon

And the push back is that you don’t allow foreign governments to mess with the US, period.

Okay, we’ll overlook it just this one time, but better be careful and never do it again!!!

/

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Sir John Barron  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:01:40pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Upding for “Putin-picked pumpkin”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:02:06pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:04:35pm

Remember how post-9/11 the Bush administration cherry-picked intelligence data to find an excuse to implement Rumsfeld’s plan to invade Iraq? If not, read Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling the Iraq War. Basically, they found a single opinion that Saddam Hussein was involved with Al Qaeda, and ignored fifty-someodd that said “no.”

I think we’re about to see an even messier version of this happen.

I may not always like the various sigint/humint agencies, but they do try to build reality-testing into their work: finding as much proof as possible, having multiple groups study the same issue and arriving at separate “blind” conclusions. But we have an administration that thrives on disinformation (and I’m not just talking about Trump…look at all the conspiracy theorists, and the Pence-like rigid believers) and has no standard of truth other than “I believe it.” It’s going to be a mess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:05:05pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:06:19pm

re: #1 Sir John Barron

Yes but when Trump wins the GOP nomination he’ll pivot to being more responsible and statesmanlike.

///

Yeah. He’s never been a politician so he has some learning to do. He just needs a little Political Sandpaper to take the edges off and some Political Polish to make him Great.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:08:29pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“long overdue”

bite me, you blatant obstructionists…

There are a couple of political retirements that are long overdue. Can you name them…you get one chance?

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:08:40pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe if the NY office spent more time tracking down this guy …

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Sir John Barron  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:10:08pm

re: #17 lawhawk

Maybe if the NY office spent more time tracking down this guy …

“Yeah but that book Clinton Cash sure was riveting.”

//

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:16:04pm

Diversion from all the crap in the world.

This is cool:

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A Cranky One  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:19:44pm

Current mood:

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:21:40pm

Heh…seeing people wondering where is the proof, Obama’s got nothing…it is all speculation.

And some Berners saying this isn’t about Russian hacking but what the hacks proved that the DNC was against Bernie.

We are in very strange times.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:21:41pm

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the Obama administration’s response to Russia’s interference in the U.S. elections, which it denies (all times EST):

4 p.m.

The spokesman for President Vladimir Putin says Moscow regrets the new sanctions that the Obama administration imposed on Russia on Thursday and is considering retaliatory steps.

Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Thursday that the measures signal Obama’s “unpredictable” and “aggressive foreign policy.”

Peskov says “Such steps of the U.S. administration that has three weeks left to work are aimed at two things: to further harm Russian-American ties, which are at a low point as it is, as well as, obviously, deal a blow on the foreign policy plans of the incoming administration of the president-elect.”

boo fuckin hoo

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Sir John Barron  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:23:01pm

re: #21 ObserverArt

Heh…seeing people wondering where is the proof, Obama’s got nothing…it is all speculation.

And some Berners saying this isn’t about Russian hacking but what the hacks proved that the DNC was against Bernie.

We are in very strange times.

Like the FBI and DHS report?

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:23:33pm

It will be interesting to see if the alt right reacts to the announcement of reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian getting engaged to Serena Williams.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:25:43pm
Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Thursday that the measures signal Obama’s “unpredictable” and “aggressive foreign policy.”

Can’t help but choke back a laugh on that one. Those are two phrases that one would not associate with Obama, but his successor, one Donald Trump. The Putin-picked pumpkin has explicitly stated he would be unpredictable and engage in an aggressive foreign policy, but given that Trump’s positions mesh well with Putin’s, then the predictability and aggressiveness is moot.

But when Obama stands up against Russian interference and aggression, that must be stopped - and the GOP will stand idly by complaining that all this is Obama’s fault (while giving Trump a complete pass on his Putin ties (and those of his cronies he’s picked for his key admin positions)).

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:26:07pm

re: #23 Sir John Barron

Like the FBI and DHS report?

I guess those are just “words” to them. They need names, dates, servers identified by computer specialists…hacker coding that can be verified, bots, viruses…spam!!!!

Or. something.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:28:37pm

re: #24 Big Beautiful Door

It will be interesting to see if the alt right reacts to the announcement of reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian getting engaged to Serena Williams.

“We’re not racist. We’re going to allow him to marry a ni- a black Amazon woman.”

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nines09  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:29:30pm

And if ever you doubted that the GOP would burn down the house to call the ashes their own, doubt no more.

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:38:43pm

re: #25 lawhawk

Can’t help but choke back a laugh on that one. Those are two phrases that one would not associate with Obama, but his successor, one Donald Trump.

Yeah, that was Trump’s big selling point.

Watch how quickly the Trump Cult forgets that and slams Obama for doing what Trump promised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:41:21pm

re: #29 makeitstop

Nah, they’ll just blame Obama for all Trumps failures.

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baileylamb  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:45:06pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

He doesn’t look evil at all…

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:45:35pm

attn: darthstar

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:47:18pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

Nah, they’ll just blame Obama for all Trumps failures.

I won’t.

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baileylamb  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:48:47pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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boo fuckin hoo

That guy, sorta looks like the guy wanted by the FBI. I wonder if they are related, or both just cut from the same evil cloth.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:49:13pm

re: #29 makeitstop

Yeah, that was Trump’s big selling point.

Watch how quickly the Trump Cult forgets that and slams Obama for doing what Trump promised.

GOD’S CHAOS CANDIDATE!

/

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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:56:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 1:57:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:02:25pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:02:52pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Russia, the bullet is usually the preferred method of communication-especially to journalists…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:03:48pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:06:10pm

Here’s a nice break.

A Brazilian concert pianist starts concert in Rotterdam, notices problem with piano.

She handles it quite well.

Something is not right… Brazilian pianist, Eliane Rodrigues, LITERALLY taking the performance below the stage.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:06:18pm

@pierre is going off on Fuckface Von Clownstick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:06:33pm

re: #39 Eric The Fruit Bat

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in Russia, the bullet is usually the preferred method of communication-especially to journalists…

now, now…those journalists are given plenty of warning to shut up. bullet is simply the final resort…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:07:20pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:07:43pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:09:14pm

Gushing Over Putin.

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Bass Reeves  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:13:01pm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:13:02pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

Thank whatever deity you may/not worship that Coulter never had offspring.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:17:04pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:24:07pm

I’m reading a comic called Seven to Eternity, and I though this was an interesting line: Hardest thing a man can do is remain noble when the whole world sees him as a coward.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:25:16pm

Just had a close friend go on a tirade about Obama’s actions today. It was if I was the stand-in for every “butt-hurt lib” he was ranting about. It was unbridled vitriol directed my way. I remained polite, but dammit it was messed up. We used to be able to have pleasant coversations about politics. Now, I’ve lost a great deal of respect for a good friend. This guy is going to be in my wedding for fucks sake.

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lockjawcanbefun  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:26:07pm
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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:28:01pm

re: #51 Arkansawyer

That sucks. Had the ties not been so close, a “So you like having Putin running the country” would have been a pretty good question to ask.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:28:16pm

re: #52 lockjawcanbefun

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Scottishdragon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:29:20pm

re: #51 Arkansawyer

Just had a close friend go on a tirade about Obama’s actions today. It was if I was the stand-in for every “butt-hurt lib” he was ranting about. It was unbridled vitriol directed my way. I remained polite, but dammit it was messed up. We used to be able to have pleasant coversations about politics. Now, I’ve lost a great deal of respect for a good friend. This guy is going to be in my wedding for fucks sake.

I had to restrict my brother and several other family members off of my FB feed and also restrict them from being to post on my page at all. Our politics have not been this poisonous since 1860…and Time Magazine recognized that when the cover called us The Divided States of America.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:32:35pm

re: #55 Scottishdragon

I had to restrict my brother and several other family members off of my FB feed and restrict them from being to post on my page at all. Our politics have not been this poisonous since 1860…and Time Magazine recognized that when the cover called us The Divided States of America.

I’m all for entertaining differing opinions and interpretations, but respect has to be maintained. To quote my favorite history professor “check your emotions at the door”

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:34:21pm
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scottslemmons  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:34:40pm

re: #51 Arkansawyer

Just had a close friend go on a tirade about Obama’s actions today. It was if I was the stand-in for every “butt-hurt lib” he was ranting about. It was unbridled vitriol directed my way. I remained polite, but dammit it was messed up. We used to be able to have pleasant coversations about politics. Now, I’ve lost a great deal of respect for a good friend. This guy is going to be in my wedding for fucks sake.

I’m not real sure I’d let that guy stay in the wedding party. He just showed you who he was — time to take his word for it and let him go on his way. :(

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Arkansawyer  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:34:42pm

re: #53 Belafon

That sucks. Had the ties not been so close, a “So you like having Putin running the country” would have been a pretty good question to ask.

Oh well. The Hogs are about to play, so I got that going for me. Damn bowl game starting at 4:30.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:35:12pm

re: #55 Scottishdragon

I had to restrict my brother and several other family members off of my FB feed and also restrict them from being to post on my page at all. Our politics have not been this poisonous since 1860…and Time Magazine recognized that when the cover called us The Divided States of America.

I think we’re in a similar situation, though since I wasn’t alive in 1860, I can’t tell you exactly how close we are to it blowing up: The conservative party will lose power unless they upend everything, and some of them really want to.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:36:46pm

re: #59 Arkansawyer

Oh well. The Hogs are about to play, so I got that going for me. Damn bowl game starting at 4:30.

My wife is an ASU alumnus, and grew up in Jonesboro.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:38:19pm

re: #60 Belafon

Having said that, there are a lot of people in this country that 1) don’t want to, and 2) are on the side of good: Trump did lose the popular vote. It’s going to take some effort, and it’s going to take getting more people to wake up and step up.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:40:55pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:41:10pm

Y’all in New England, here’s the weather forecast from Hillbilly Weatherman.

NSFW - Language

Dec28 2016

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Jenner7  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:41:58pm

It’s been hours since sanctions announced, maybe Trump won’t comment on it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:43:34pm

re: #19 lawhawk

I can totally see Prince Eric and Prince Junior doing something like this!

/

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Quiet Storm  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:44:22pm

OT: did anyone post that Bob Denver died?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:44:32pm

re: #65 Jenner7

It’s been hours since sanctions announced, maybe Trump won’t comment on it.

It’s like watching an empty podium…

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:45:22pm

re: #67 Quiet Storm

Back in 2005.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:45:22pm

re: #51 Arkansawyer

Just had a close friend go on a tirade about Obama’s actions today. It was if I was the stand-in for every “butt-hurt lib” he was ranting about. It was unbridled vitriol directed my way. I remained polite, but dammit it was messed up. We used to be able to have pleasant coversations about politics. Now, I’ve lost a great deal of respect for a good friend. This guy is going to be in my wedding for fucks sake.

I had to ditch a Conservative close friend because he had to drag me into the dramas that wingnut media put in his head every day. You should do the same. Keeping mentally unstable people around is not healthy.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:46:02pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:46:38pm

time for a fart joke, I think…

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:46:42pm

re: #69 Belafon

Also a couple of years ago when someone mistook old news for new IIRC.

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Quiet Storm  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:47:32pm

re: #69 Belafon

Was just on my feed with 2016 date. Guess it was Photoshopped

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:47:34pm

re: #69 Belafon

Back in 2005.

Quit making me say, ‘Oh, good’ like that.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:47:38pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

Gushing Over Putin.

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Kind of easy to announce the cease fire when you’re the one firing the fucking guns.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:49:33pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

time for a fart joke, I think…

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I’ve been told cats are assholes. I think this goes to that belief.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:50:16pm

Another good line:

Once a man convinces himself that what he wants is what he needs— Well, once you do that, taking the path to damnation can feel like a justifiable position.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:51:57pm

The Circle of Derp completes itself once again.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:51:58pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

Y’all in New England, here’s the weather forecast from Hillbilly Weatherman.

NSFW - Language

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Video

“So don’t be out there in your fucking Subaru thinking you’re all that and a bag of chips!” Ha! We live in a townhouse, so no generator. Just getting the candles and flashlights out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:52:15pm

not even pretending anymore:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:54:09pm

uh huh…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:56:03pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh huh…

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We haven’t checked on all the 400 lbs guys alone in their bedrooms yet….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:57:10pm

Maybe if Obama accused Cuba, they’d want to get rid of Trump too.

Oh who am I kidding. Literally anyone else could be responsible, and the GOP would “doubt” their involvement too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:58:41pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 29, 2016 • 2:58:46pm

re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect that his handlers have taken his phone from him and flushed down a gold toilet…

I’m sure the Russians have provided him with a couple of cases of special Vlad model Trump phones.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:00:04pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Skip Intro  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:00:20pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hint to FBI. Check Trump Tower.

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William Lewis  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:01:53pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It only won WWII.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:02:10pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

The Circle of Derp completes itself once again.

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Oh….now this is something I have to see…Fox News and Glenn Greenwald offering critiques on journalism…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:02:21pm

re: #87 Belafon

heh

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:03:26pm

Prime the pump when you need to, lay off when you don’t. The problem is that then Republicans come in just as things are improving and insist on priming the defense pump while cutting taxes on those who can afford to pay.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:09:01pm

A senior member of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team suggested on Thursday that America would “be a leader in the world once again” after President Barack Obama leaves office because the country had chosen a “real man” over Hillary Clinton.

Asshole Alert at C&L

Trump adviser Boris Epshteyn: ‘The people elected a real man’

Best comment:

If you see this dude, harm him!

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Skip Intro  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:11:12pm

re: #93 Dave In Austin

Guy from the old Soviet Union says what?

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:13:56pm

re: #90 Mike Lamb

Oh….now this is something I have to see…Fox News and Glenn Greenwald offering critiques on journalism…

Nah, I ain’t watching that. Those are the two smirks I’d most like to remove from their respective faces.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:14:04pm

re: #65 Jenner7

It’s been hours since sanctions announced, maybe Trump won’t comment on it.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:15:48pm
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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:15:48pm

re: #96 Bubblehead II

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He’ll go to the meeting, get bored in five minutes and walk out knowing nothing.

Then he’ll tweet whatever Putin tells him to.

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BeachDem  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:18:26pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh huh…

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When I want an informed opinion about espionage, I always consult a veterinarian.

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nines09  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:19:00pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m not totally convinced the entire GOP isn’t a fucking Russian stooge.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:20:10pm

re: #100 nines09

I’m not totally convinced the entire GOP isn’t a fucking Russian stooge.

They’re going to be Putin’s patsies because they will sell their children’s souls to keep power.

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nines09  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:21:24pm

re: #101 Belafon

They’re going to be Putin’s patsies because they will sell their children’s souls to keep power.

The Tea Party seems to be very quiet. Liberty and freedom and all that.

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BeachDem  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:22:40pm

re: #98 makeitstop

He’ll go to the meeting, get bored in five minutes and walk out knowing nothing.

Then he’ll tweet whatever Putin tells him to.

The “leaders” he’s going to meet with probably include Flynn, Manafort and Ivanka.

(and hey, yam, no rush—next week, the week after, whenever…)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:22:44pm

re: #101 Belafon

Or to at least what has a thin veneer of power. I mean, how powerful are they really, if they are unknowingly doing someone else’s bidding?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:23:43pm

re: #96 Bubblehead II

He didn’t say which country’s intelligence community…

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Bubblehead II  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:24:30pm

re: #98 makeitstop

He’ll go to the meeting, get bored in five minutes and walk out knowing nothing.

Then he’ll tweet whatever Putin tells him to.

IF he even goes to the briefing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:25:28pm

Nice to know that DT thinks international incidents can wait a week for his attention.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:25:42pm

re: #48 Eric The Fruit Bat

Thank whatever deity you may/not worship that Coulter never had offspring.

We just don’t know where the eggs are buried or how long they need to incubate.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:26:22pm

re: #104 GlutenFreeJesus

Or to at least what has a thin veneer of power. I mean, how powerful are they really, if they are unknowingly doing someone else’s bidding?

The road to hell is paved with personal agendas.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:29:01pm

re: #96 Bubblehead II

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Bubblehead II  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:30:07pm

re: #108 Grunthos the Flatulent

We just don’t know where the eggs are buried or how long they need to incubate.

They lay dormant until a viable host becomes available. And they are everywhere.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:30:20pm

re: #93 Dave In Austin

Asshole Alert at C&L

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Best comment:

There’s my man Boris. I knew he wouldn’t let me down. I mentioned good ol’ Boris just earlier. He is a man you can count on.

Overnight Thread - Comment #388

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:30:53pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:32:07pm

Jeebus…the frickin’ winds be a howlin’ through central Ohio right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:33:08pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

Jeebus…the frickin’ winds be a howlin’ through central Ohio right now.

You should be seeing snow any time now.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:34:47pm

re: #100 nines09

I’m not totally convinced the entire GOP isn’t a fucking Russian stooge.

Where is Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn when you need them???

Why, there is a Red under every GOP bed!

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:35:29pm

re: #100 nines09

I’m not totally convinced the entire GOP isn’t a fucking Russian stooge.

I’m pretty convinced that they are.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:36:19pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:37:44pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nice to know that DT thinks international incidents can wait a week for his attention.

I waiting for the other “shoe” to drop. That would be all the info the Russians have on the GOP.

Best way to keep your new friends honest is to have dirt on them too. And their arrogance about all this just makes it that much easier…and better for the Russians.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:38:25pm
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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:38:32pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

Why, there is a Red under in every GOP bed!

FTFY

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nines09  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:39:10pm

re: #117 makeitstop

Legend has it we would fall from enemies within. That premise is growing legs.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:40:05pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

You should be seeing snow any time now.

Little flakes are trickling down. They said we would get a half inch tonight. That is if it all doesn’t just get blown away.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:40:30pm

re: #122 nines09

Legend has it we would fall from enemies within. That premise is growing legs.

Like the Avengers, we’re too powerful to be destroyed by anyone else. We’re our own worst enemy.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:42:18pm

re: #121 makeitstop

FTFY

I wonder if there is one in Trump’s???

What?

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nines09  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:42:48pm

re: #113 Dave In Austin

DOOR PRIZE IS A PAIR OF POOPED IN SWEATY TEDDY PEDOPHILE PANTS!!
SECOND RUNNER UP GETS A CHEWED ON MICKY D STRAW KID ROCK SNORTED CRANK THROUGH!!!!!

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Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:46:22pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s really nice that he’s doing the country this favor.

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:52:46pm

re: #51 Arkansawyer

Just had a close friend go on a tirade about Obama’s actions today. It was if I was the stand-in for every “butt-hurt lib” he was ranting about. It was unbridled vitriol directed my way. I remained polite, but dammit it was messed up. We used to be able to have pleasant coversations about politics. Now, I’ve lost a great deal of respect for a good friend. This guy is going to be in my wedding for fucks sake.

I’m sorry about the falling out with your friend.

This sort of thing comes from demonising liberals ever since President Nixon was in office. It really ramped up under President Reagan, until “liberal” can now stand in for anything that a conservative dislikes—it has even bled over so that the propaganda is accepted by a significant portion of those who call themselves independent or moderate.

Demonising political (and religious) opponents is how you kill democratic societies. I don’t know how to fix this. Republicans like Senator Lindsay Graham (R-So. Car.) who want to investigate foreign interference in our electoral process seem to be few and far in between these days.

I do not care much for Senator Graham’s positions, but I have never held him in contempt of the country or “anti-American” for being a conservative politician.

On the other hand, I have spent my entire adult life being pigeonholed into “commie” “anti-American” and all sorts of other vile characterisations of who I actually am. Never mind the disabled vet bit after most of my adult life in the military (see also President GHW Bush saying he didn’t think atheists could be patriotic nor should be citizens).

You note this person has been a long-time friend; even around you all that time his tirade apparently comes from a place where “all liberals are enemies” even the ones he knows personally.

Hopefully he will cool off in a day or so, but I don’t know how to retrieve our system where various political parties stand for different things, but all presume the others fundamentally have the USA’s interests at heart.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:55:14pm

Matt Ygelsias over at Vox has written a letter…

December 25, 2016

To Whom It May Concern:

Sitting at my desk in the winter of 2016-‘17, I have no way of knowing what the future holds for the United States under the administration of Donald Trump. I hope it will all turn out for the best. But I fear that it will not. The election of a man temperamentally unfit for the presidency and lacking in the basic qualifications to perform the job, backed up by congressional allies who seem determined to ignore his flagrant corruption, is an alarming situation. The odds that he will systematically corrupt American institutions and install an authoritarian kleptocracy or blunder into some kind of catastrophic war seem simply too high to entirely discount.

And if something big and awful does happen, I know from my own reading of history that the scholars of the future will be sorely tempted to look for causes that are big in proportion to the consequences.

Historians will write of a growing trend toward partisan polarization and a brewing sense of political crisis dating back to Bill Clinton’s impeachment in 1998. They’ll note the projected end of America’s white majority, the geopolitical revolution induced by Russia’s reinvention of itself as an international beacon of cultural conservatism, and the corrosive effect of the 2007-‘08 financial crisis. The “failures of neoliberalism” will come in for scrutiny.

All true and all important. But my message to the future is this. No matter how stupid it sounds, and no matter how much political and journalistic elites on all sides of America’s toxic politics began trying to ignore it as soon as the votes were counted, the dominant issue of the 2016 campaign was email server management.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:55:40pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2016 • 3:55:49pm

re: #128 Anymouse

I’m sorry about the falling out with your friend.

This sort of thing comes from demonising liberals ever since President Nixon was in office. It really ramped up under President Reagan, until “liberal” can now stand in for anything that a conservative dislikes—it has even bled over so that the propaganda is accepted by a significant portion of those who call themselves independent or moderate.

The “L” Word.

That has always stuck with me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:03:18pm

re: #129 Eric The Fruit Bat

Matt Ygelsias over at Vox has written a letter…

No matter how stupid it sounds, and no matter how much political and journalistic elites on all sides of America’s toxic politics began trying to ignore it as soon as the votes were counted, the dominant issue of the 2016 campaign was email server management.

And now server management in the form of external hacking is an ongoing issue

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:07:46pm
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nines09  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:09:38pm

re: #51 Arkansawyer

Get used to it. I started getting friend requests on facebook since I confirmed a friend of a friend about 2 days ago. Suddenly 5 “musicians” want to be friends. I have very few friends on FB because IT’S FACEBOOK. My wife says, “Well, you should meet new people, and they are “musicians”..” So I friend 2. Not even 2 hours later I’m back looking at something, and see the one new guy, a guitarist, (with a name that I seemed to recall from 30 years ago, and why I did it) had a new post. I go look. Hello. “Kerry and Fonda. Traitors alway join the Democratic Party.” Click. Bye bye. It never ends. I have another guy today who was an absolute pain in the ass to me in years gone by, and actually played in national acts. Metal and Hard Rock. Now he’s a troubadour with a guitar. In his mind anyway. Has his own studio. Actually produced bands. Cut a CD of his magnificence.. Emotes well. Yeah. Sure. I’ll be your “friend”. I don’t even “follow” 3 of the 4 other guys I play on stage with. Nothing in common. Music. I’ve said shut the fuck up so many times, all I have to do now is cut my eyes. Plow through. If you can see the person in front of you for who they are, you will never be surprised. Not an easy task. Good luck.

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:12:34pm

re: #80 Barefoot Grin

“So don’t be out there in your fucking Subaru thinking you’re all that and a bag of chips!” Ha! We live in a townhouse, so no generator. Just getting the candles and flashlights out.

My wife drove to the village bar this morning (don’t judge, she was getting the time of the New Year’s Party). She came home on foot, saying she’d gotten the car stuck in front of the bar.

She managed to bury it in the only significant snowpile in front of the place (by trying to drive through it). Underneath was ice.

I started the car and briefly tried to rock it out. No joy. Since it’s a Smart and very light for a car, I put the car in reverse, jumped out and pushed against the driver’s side door pillar. The car climbed out of the snowpile to the rear; I jumped in and stopped the car so it wouldn’t plough through the front of the bar. Put the car in first gear and gunned it through the snowpile and into the street.

Home in about ten minutes (half of which was spent walking to the car from home). She greeted me with “couldn’t get it out, huh?” I pushed the panic alarm button on the keychain and the car horn started bleeting from the street next to our house, turned it off again, hung the keys up, smiled smugly.

Got a kiss. (::

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:13:54pm

re: #134 nines09

My general rule on FB is that I only friend people I know from real life whom I would like to see again in real life.

I caught up with an acquaintance from high school, had one look at all the pro-run, anti-Hillary and Obama rants on his time line and decided not to reach out.

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nines09  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:15:52pm

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yep. I know. I was hoping. Friends of a friend with fingers crossed.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:18:17pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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In the “shit-eating-grin-off, the edge goes to Carlson.”

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:18:57pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:19:34pm

re: #137 nines09

Yep. I know. I was hoping. Friends of a friend with fingers crossed.

I just had a post show up stating “I stand with Israel despite what the UN does” or the like.

I almost jumped in and commented that building settlements on other people’s land is one of America’s own great founding principles, but decided to just delete the post and walk away. I come here or to other political blogs if I want to discuss politics.

AFAIC, FB is for finding out what friends and family are up to, cute kid & pet videos and stupid visual puns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:20:57pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:20:59pm

re: #135 Anymouse

My wife drove to the village bar this morning (don’t judge, she was getting the time of the New Year’s Party). She came home on foot, saying she’d gotten the car stuck in front of the bar.

She managed to bury it in the only significant snowpile in front of the place (by trying to drive through it). Underneath was ice.

I started the car and briefly tried to rock it out. No joy. Since it’s a Smart and very light for a car, I put the car in reverse, jumped out and pushed against the driver’s side door pillar. The car climbed out of the snowpile to the rear; I jumped in and stopped the car so it wouldn’t plough through the front of the bar. Put the car in first gear and gunned it through the snowpile and into the street.

Home in about ten minutes (half of which was spent walking to the car from home). She greeted me with “couldn’t get it out, huh?” I pushed the panic alarm button on the keychain and the car horn started bleeting from the street next to our house, turned it off again, hung the keys up, smiled smugly.

Got a kiss. (::

Love it! I just pushed 6” off the windshields to put the wipers up because it’s something that New Englanders do that really makes no difference and by the time I was done there was another 1/4” on the windshield. It’s really coming down now, and I can hear limbs cracking off trees in the forest behind us.

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Skip Intro  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:21:45pm

This is NOT A JOKE! Repeat. NOT A JOKE.

Amazon’s demented plans for its warehouse blimp with drone fleet

Giant airship will hover over your city, deploying drones for advertising and delivery.

I’ll leave the rest as an exercise for the reader.

pdfpiw.uspto.gov

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:22:13pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

When you’ve lost a Nixon toady …

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:23:51pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Because at the end of the day, enough voters in enough places decided to throw the lever for the Putin-picked pumpkin. And there’s no way to suss out who voted on the basis of the agitprop/psyops campaign, and who voted for any other reason.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven, but there’s no turning back. We’re on the highway to hell, thanks to Trump, Putin, and a bunch of feckless media types who decided to ignore the brazen corruption and foul stench surrounding Trump at all times, to focus on Clinton emails that simply don’t identify any criminal acts.

Ryan has already made it clear that if Russia hacked the US, it was because Obama allowed/enabled it. The GOP is intent on blaming Obama for the failure of the intel community and law enforcement to respond, even if the FBI was too busy trying to spin the election in Trump’s favor with hastily and completely bogus claims just days before the election.

Take a bow Vlad. You won the White House, and the GOP has rolled out the red carpet for you because they think that they benefit in the end.

FTFY… :)

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nines09  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:24:23pm

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

FaceBook is for kids pictures, vacations, trips, puppies, kitties, jokes, authors. I unfriended about 10 people who couldn’t buy a clue and unfollowed about 10 others. I tell people when they send me RWNJ shit to stop. If you have something to say, say it and we can talk. Send another link and you go away. They all go away.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:24:29pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:24:38pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:26:07pm

somebody else who can just STFU:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:26:09pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

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Somehow I doubt he would want to move on if what happened to the DNC happened to him. Very easy to say move on when you were clearly the beneficiary of hacks and sprouting out the Kremlin line.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:26:45pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

When you’ve lost a Nixon toady …

To be fair, Dean was very critical of the Bush administration as well.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:27:44pm

re: #143 Skip Intro

This is NOT A JOKE! Repeat. NOT A JOKE.

Amazon’s demented plans for its warehouse blimp with drone fleet

[Embedded content]

I’ll leave the rest as an exercise for the reader.

pdfpiw.uspto.gov

A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies!
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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:28:02pm

Damn it Trump isn’t even officially President yet and I’m already sick of the bastard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:28:49pm

heh

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:29:04pm
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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:30:57pm

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

Love it! I just pushed 6” off the windshields to put the wipers up because it’s something that New Englanders do that really makes no difference and by the time I was done there was another 1/4” on the windshield. It’s really coming down now, and I can hear limbs cracking off trees in the forest behind us.

We put up our wipers here in the High Plains as well, partly for the snow and mostly so they are not frozen to the windscreen. Y’all are getting the blizzard that pounded the Dakotas a few days ago (and gave us about six inches of snow)—stay warm and keep your Subaru and bag of chips off the roads.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:31:37pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

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scottslemmons  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:32:49pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

somebody else who can just STFU:

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McConnell trying to snuggle up to the Russians before Christmas.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:34:22pm

re: #24 Big Beautiful Door

It will be interesting to see if the alt right reacts to the announcement of reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian getting engaged to Serena Williams.

Wow. Williams really knows how to keep her private life private. Impressive. (Kardashians need to take notes).

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:35:35pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Trump wasn’t even prepared to accept the results of the election if he had lost. Let’s not forget that.

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:35:50pm

huffingtonpost.com

Buffalo School Board votes 6-2 to give Carl Paladino twenty-four hours to resign his position or the board will ask the state education commissioner to have him removed.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:36:26pm

re: #160 Patricia Kayden

Trump wasn’t even prepared to accept the results of the election if he had lost. Let’s not forget that.

Exactly. Fuck him and his bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:36:55pm

re: #161 Anymouse

huffingtonpost.com

Buffalo School Board votes 6-2 to give Carl Paladino twenty-four hours to resign his position or the board will ask the state education commissioner to have him removed.

Bye Carl, have a nice bag of go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw.

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:37:29pm

re: #24 Big Beautiful Door

It will be interesting to see if the alt right fascists reacts to the announcement of reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian getting engaged to Serena Williams.

Fixed. Mainstreaming Orwellian terms should not be allowed to pass unchallenged.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:43:45pm

re: #156 Anymouse

We put up our wipers here in the High Plains as well, partly for the snow and mostly so they are not frozen to the windscreen. Y’all are getting the blizzard that pounded the Dakotas a few days ago (and gave us about six inches of snow)—stay warm and keep your Subaru and bag of chips off the roads.

There was an article about this in the Concord Monitor the other day, now that I think about it. The debate is over exactly what you say: wearing the rubber by picking up the wipers that are fully or partially frozen to the window versus stretching out the spring in the arm mechanism (which dealerships, when interviewed, warned about).

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:48:36pm

re: #161 Anymouse

huffingtonpost.com

Buffalo School Board votes 6-2 to give Carl Paladino twenty-four hours to resign his position or the board will ask the state education commissioner to have him removed.

About bloody time. How was such a blatant racist on a school board in the first place?

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bratwurst  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:50:35pm
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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:51:04pm

re: #166 Patricia Kayden

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:51:18pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:51:57pm

re: #166 Patricia Kayden

About bloody time. How was such a blatant racist on a school board in the first place?

That’s where they start. School board, commissioner of something or other, state rep, governor, then Congressman or Senator. The right has been doing this for decades and now they run the majority of states and the US government.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:52:53pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

Goddamnit Frank. Ruining a classic song like that. Damn you. Damn you to hell.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:53:23pm

re: #170 Skip Intro

That’s where they start. School board, commissioner of something or other, state rep, governor, then Congressman or Senator. The right has been doing this for decades and now they run the majority of states and the US government.

Yep it’s a perverted reality of Tip O’Neill’s all politics is local.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:55:06pm

There’s a reason the GOP wants to have simultaneous hearings. They way to overwhelm the Democrats with all their BS and hope that one or more of these incompetents slip through the cracks with all their conflicts of interests, all their absolute lack of knowledge on subject matter of the agencies they’re tabbed to run, and the destructive intent they hope to bring to the job.

This is why the GOP wants to do this. It’s not about expediency. It’s about ramming through an extremist agenda that would gut the safety net, environmental and worker protections, etc.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:55:18pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

So he skips daily briefings but will deign to show up for this one briefing because reasons. I can’t imagine any other President Elect getting away with this behavior.

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:55:39pm

Thought?

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:58:15pm

re: #175 gocart mozart

Thought?

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Challenge coins. No big deal.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 4:58:32pm

re: #175 gocart mozart

Bindle of blow?

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 5:00:27pm

re: #165 Barefoot Grin

There was an article about this in the Concord Monitor the other day, now that I think about it. The debate is over exactly what you say: wearing the rubber by picking up the wipers that are fully or partially frozen to the window versus stretching out the spring in the arm mechanism (which dealerships, when interviewed, warned about).

As far as stretching the spring, the wipers don’t stay up all winter of course. As for freezing to the windscreen, that can tear the rubber of the wiper and render it useless. I guess it’s a coin toss on which one you prefer to deal with.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2016 • 5:05:36pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

Now which motion picture studio will release Queen Milo’s homage to John Waters?

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Arkansawyer  Dec 29, 2016 • 5:05:46pm

re: #128 Anymouse
re: #128 Anymouse

I’m sorry about the falling out with your friend.

This sort of thing comes from demonising liberals ever since President Nixon was in office. It really ramped up under President Reagan, until “liberal” can now stand in for anything that a conservative dislikes—it has even bled over so that the propaganda is accepted by a significant portion of those who call themselves independent or moderate.

Demonising political (and religious) opponents is how you kill democratic societies. I don’t know how to fix this. Republicans like Senator Lindsay Graham (R-So. Car.) who want to investigate foreign interference in our electoral process seem to be few and far in between these days.

I do not care much for Senator Graham’s positions, but I have never held him in contempt of the country or “anti-American” for being a conservative politician.

On the other hand, I have spent my entire adult life being pigeonholed into “commie” “anti-American” and all sorts of other vile characterisations of who I actually am. Never mind the disabled vet bit after most of my adult life in the military (see also President GHW Bush saying he didn’t think atheists could be patriotic nor should be citizens).

You note this person has been a long-time friend; even around you all that time his tirade apparently comes from a place where “all liberals are enemies” even the ones he knows personally.

Hopefully he will cool off in a day or so, but I don’t know how to retrieve our system where various political parties stand for different things, but all presume the others fundamentally have the USA’s interests at heart.

Honesty, it’s not a falling out. I’m the forgiving type. He stepped over a line, but if he shows contrition we can move on. I like the guy a lot, and he’s my fiancée’s best friend. It was all via texts, so I don’t know the day he’d had (we live 3 hours apart), so it could be him venting anger in the wrong direction. I’m not a Christian, but Jesus did have some great ideas on forgiveness. Blessed are the peacemakers, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2016 • 5:09:34pm
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SirMixALot  Dec 29, 2016 • 10:06:00pm

re: #100 nines09

I’m not totally convinced the entire GOP isn’t a fucking Russian stooge.

How many Republicans, and Right Wing media personalities have been praising Putin for Years? I’ve lost track. Citizens United made it impossible to track foreign donations. Would love to review all of their financial data and communications. I’ve been noticing Pro Russian propaganda online by right wingers and left wingers since Occupy. I’ve suspected Greenwald and Assange’s involvement with Russia for years too. The lack of critical articles, and leaks by both the Intercept and Wikileaks. Plus Assange being guarded by the Russians in the Ecuador Embassy. Both men convincing Snowden he would be killed or jailed for his leaks. Snowden ending up in Moscow just added fuel to my suspicions. All the pro Russian troll bots in a zillion comment sections and now the discovery of Two Hundred or so websites being run by the Russians points to a vast right wing conspiracy. That is even before you get to the hacks and leaks. Shame it took Trump becoming President before the dots started bring connected.

The Left needs to hack and leak financial and communication data on every Republican, RW media talking head, RW website or media owner, Assanage and Greenwald to prove without a shadow of a doubt their collusion with Russia.

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SirMixALot  Dec 29, 2016 • 10:08:27pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good fuck em. The Russian propaganda machine needs to be banned in the West. They own newspapers in the U.K. too in addition to RTV and Sputnik their radio network.


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