Sarah Palin Poetry Slam of the Day: “Dear Julian, Please Forgive Me”

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In this shining new era of the Trump Horror, all things are fluid, all positions are changeable, all convictions are malleable, and now Sarah Palin is begging forgiveness from Wikileaks and Julian Assange.

Palin’s word salad screeds are always much more amusing when cast as free verse, so without further ado, our Sarah Palin poetry slam of the day, based on this Facebook post.

DEAR JULIAN, PLEASE FORGIVE ME
A Sarah Palin joint

To Julian Assange:
I apologize.

Exposing
the truth re:
THE LEFT
having been
oh-so-guilty of atrocious
actions
and
attitudes
of which they’ve falsely accused others.

The media
collusion
that hid what
many on
THE LEFT
have been
supporting is shocking.

This
important information
that
finally opened
people’s eyes
to democrat candidates
and
operatives
would not
have been
exposed
were it
not for
Julian Assange.

I
apologize
for
condemning Assange
when he
published my infamous
(and proven noncontroversial,
relatively boring)
emails
years ago.

As I
said at
the time of being targeted
and
my subsequent condemnation,
though,
the line
must be drawn
before
our troops
or
innocent lives deserving protection
would be
put
at risk
as a result
of published emails.

Julian,
I
apologize.

[wild finger snapping beatnik applause ensues]

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201 comments

1
Patricia Kayden  Jan 4, 2017 • 3:54:36pm

Why did so many on the Left fall for Assange?

2
Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2017 • 3:55:38pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:03:32pm
4
KGxvi  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:06:14pm

Shorter Palin:

Thanks for beating the Clintons, please don’t release my emails.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:08:15pm

Left over from the last thread:

re: #232 InfidelOfFreedom

Soon all us po’ folks will be driving on dirt roads while Ryan and his cronies will sail by on American Autobahns. There’s no public good the Republicans won’t attempt to stratify.

I already drive on dirt roads. Our infrastructure investment by the Federal government basically consisted of the Oregon Trail, the Transcontinental Railway, and Interstate 80.

Other than that, not so much.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:11:49pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

Why did so many on the Left fall for Assange?

1. People get caught up in the trope of rebels punching upward, and thus didn’t ask questions. Wikileaks looked like Deep Throat, whereas people with a bit of humint knowledge (like me) were all eyebrows-raised about the way that documents dumps could be curated to present fake stories.

2. Most Americans struggle with the idea of press manipulation as an active thing to be skeptical about. We’ve come to understand spin, but we don’t yet get the idea of how “truth” is malleable. Basically, we’re not postmodern, and thus frequently suckered by gilt.

3. Reflexive anti-US government posturing is a just another gaping confirmation bias that ends up being appropriated by actors without any noble intentions.

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harlequinade  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:14:45pm

re: #6 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

Also Gulf War made us distrust anything, so when someone came along and posted to our particular vanity, we swallowed it.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:15:33pm

Don’t forget to unfollow

@potus
@flotus
@whitehouse

on Jan 20.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:19:45pm

re: #7 harlequinade

I was just thinking of adding that. Gullf War 2 really snapped the paradigm that we could trust the government on a very basic level. Certainly was the case for me. I gave the administration credit to not be that baldly deceitful, and got stung.

Problem is, lots of people didn’t acquire actual skepticism in the aftermath. Just running to the other pole doesn’t solve the problem…which is how we get so many populists rubbing up to authoritarians who are just of a different ideological stripe.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:19:59pm

re: #6 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

There was a (sometimes tempting) particular strain of reactionary leftism during the Bush years that was basically “the enemy of my enemy…” The same strain that also led to some embracing Chavez despite all evidence that he was an anti-democratic megalomaniac.

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:22:52pm

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:24:11pm

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:31:18pm

re: #10 InfidelOfFreedom

There was a (sometimes tempting) particular strain of reactionary leftism during the Bush years that was basically “the enemy of my enemy…” The same strain that also led to some embracing Chavez despite all evidence that he was an anti-democratic megalomaniac.

Older I get, the more I think that distinctions like left-right, communist-capitalist have no inherent meaning, because you have to dig in the guts of the specific advocate and see (1) how prone they are to bullshit, (2) how they exercise skepticism, (3) how much do they value human beings.

Bullshitters won’t admit when their ideas fail; The un-skeptical don’t have a tool kit with which to test reality—both end up moving goalposts and otherwise losing the plot. Add in “not really givinng a shit about people” and you get…horror.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:32:32pm

re: #9 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

I was just thinking of adding that. Gullf War 2 really snapped the paradigm that we could trust the government on a very basic level…..

For some it was the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. For others, the Whiskey Rebellion.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:33:04pm

Racist Michael’s Lady Breaks Her Silence as if Anyone Wanted Her To (goes to Wonkette)

A couple weeks ago, there was a story about a Lakeview, Ill., woman who went on a racist tear in a Michael’s craft shop because she was upset she either had to pay for plastic bags or buy a reusable bag (the law there). She went off on the cashier, complaining that she was being discriminated against because she was a white Trump voter.

Chicago’s NBC station seemed to see fit that she needed to tell “her side of the story” where she basically “forgave” everyone else for being wrong.

Wonkette reports, you decide if she is a jerk.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:38:33pm

re: #9 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

I was just thinking of adding that. Gullf War 2 really snapped the paradigm that we could trust the government on a very basic level. Certainly was the case for me. I gave the administration credit to not be that baldly deceitful, and got stung.

Problem is, lots of people didn’t acquire actual skepticism in the aftermath. Just running to the other pole doesn’t solve the problem…which is how we get so many populists rubbing up to authoritarians who are just of a different ideological stripe.

This.

I never liked or supported Assange because everything he released had his own agenda behind it, hidden behind “noble motives.” Had he been releasing material in a truly neutral fashion, acting as more of a middleman to protect whistleblowers I would have been much more open to his presence. But the guy made me twitchy from Day One.

I wasn’t aware he was ALWAYS in bed with the Russians until this election…that this is nothing new. Any supporters of Assange remaining are basically supporting a Russian propaganda agent.

I don’t think it was the left that were supporting him as much as the internet libertarians….and i count myself as an open internet in every way libertarian. People who want open access to information and to drive transparency jumped all over Assange…some still worship him. The CONTENT he was releasing was loved by the Left, especially the anti-military Left. But actual supporters of Assange the man was a group of internet libertarians who thought he was one of them.

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scottslemmons  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:41:26pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

Don’t forget to unfollow

@potus
@flotus
@whitehouse

on Jan 20.

Mmmmaybe. On the other hand, taunting the Yam about his dainty wee hands is good no matter which account he’s using…

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:43:43pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

Don’t forget to unfollow

@potus
@flotus
@whitehouse

on Jan 20.

Blocked set for Jan. 20.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:45:00pm

re: #15 Anymouse

Racist Michael’s Lady Breaks Her Silence as if Anyone Wanted Her To (goes to Wonkette)

A couple weeks ago, there was a story about a Lakeview, Ill., woman who went on a racist tear in a Michael’s craft shop because she was upset she either had to pay for plastic bags or buy a reusable bag (the law there). She went off on the cashier, complaining that she was being discriminated against because she was a white Trump voter.

Chicago’s NBC station seemed to see fit that she needed to tell “her side of the story” where she basically “forgave” everyone else for being wrong.

Wonkette reports, you decide if she is a jerk.

Isn’t she on video and in police records in multiple places for being a general nut-around-town? There’s the coffee shop rant, and the screaming in the doorway of the Michaels, and a police blotter notice of a disturbance somewhere. I’ve also seen posts by people who allegedly live near her, stating she’s a well-known crazy person; what the cops call a 5149-and-a-half.

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(alpuz)  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:46:07pm

re: #15 Anymouse

Racist Michael’s Lady Breaks Her Silence as if Anyone Wanted Her To (goes to Wonkette)

A couple weeks ago, there was a story about a Lakeview, Ill., woman who went on a racist tear in a Michael’s craft shop because she was upset she either had to pay for plastic bags or buy a reusable bag (the law there). She went off on the cashier, complaining that she was being discriminated against because she was a white Trump voter.

Chicago’s NBC station seemed to see fit that she needed to tell “her side of the story” where she basically “forgave” everyone else for being wrong.

Wonkette reports, you decide if she is a jerk.

“She does not believe that she caused any type of disruption, or that she did anything wrong, or that she has any anger issues whatsoever. The fact that these things just keep happening to her is mere coincidence, and she cannot help the fact that she was “targeted” for her race. You know, because no one in Lakeview has ever seen a white person before (for non-Chicagoans: there are, in fact, a lot of white people in Lakeview)”.

My original diagnosis was batshit crazy, but I think they’re on to something with the “she’s basically an asshole” approach.

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b.d.  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:46:39pm

Palin is just plain pathetic.

Even Trump dumped her.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:48:48pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

Don’t forget to unfollow

@potus
@flotus
@whitehouse

on Jan 20.

I thought I read somewhere that all three accounts are being permanently archived with a “44” added to their handles, and the incoming administration The Alzheimer’s-Riddled Tiny-Fisted Yam takes over the handles with a clean slate.

If it’s fake news, then I apologize in advance.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:49:21pm

re: #17 scottslemmons

Mmmmaybe. On the other hand, taunting the Yam about his dainty wee hands is good no matter which account he’s using…

I’d rather watch his numbers go way way down.

Don’t you worry, we’ll see his tweets no matter what.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:50:19pm

re: #22 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I thought I read somewhere that all three accounts are being permanently archived with a “44” added to their handles, and the incoming administration takes over the handles with a clean slate.

If it’s fake news, then I apologize in advance.

No idea. That would be good.

I just do not want to be a follower.

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Apocalypse  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:51:20pm

re: #22 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Not a bad Idea though regardless.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:53:17pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

re: #25 Apocalypse

Just looked it up. It is true.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:53:31pm

On a funnier note…

I’ve worked for my much-loved, exceptionally profane and annoying boss for 9 years. By choice: I have refused to work for anyone else. He is an old-school Republican and I am, well, a liberal Democrat. We’ve not discussed politics in all of these years because best not.

I needed some advice on how to deal with a delicate situation in the corporate hierarchy today, so I stuck my head in his office and asked for some guidance.

“I need to have a conversation with you about a political situation.”

He turns around, slams his hands on his desk, and says, “I hate Trump. Hate that stupid fucker.”

Pause. Well, this is new.

“It’s more a corporate political issue but it’s good to know I don’t have to quit any time soon because my boss is an idiot.”

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:53:37pm

re: #17 scottslemmons

Mmmmaybe. On the other hand, taunting the Yam about his dainty wee hands is good no matter which account he’s using…

And, unless Trump and the GOP change federal FOIA law (which I wouldn’t put past them), everything posted on those accounts is a matter of public record.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:55:39pm

re: #26 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Just looked it up. It is true.

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OK, but an unfollow will be required.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:55:41pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

Don’t forget to unfollow

@potus
@flotus
@whitehouse

on Jan 20.

Just screencapped them to compare later. @POTUS and @WhiteHouse each have around 13 million, while @FLOTUS has just over 6 million. Melania doesn’t strike me as a tweeter, so I wonder if that one will even get used… Ivanka maybe? It would be improper & more than a little creepy, but that’s really nothing new with them. 🤢

Oh yeah—don’t forget @VP.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:55:58pm

re: #26 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Just looked it up. It is true.

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Going to need someone to count how many people unfollow these accounts on Jan 20th. That will drive Trump NUTS.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:56:58pm

re: #31 BlueGrl21

Going to need someone to count how many people unsubscribe on Jan 20th from these accounts. That will drive Trump NUTS.

That’s the plan.

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nines09  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:57:02pm

‘Dear Julian Assange;
And I do say that like Hulian, right?! Right??! THE LEFT Like you Latinos an all say the names like that. Anyway, hey! It’s warm! How about that Global Warming big liberal Soros funded lie it is?! THE LEFT. Hey, It was MY BAD. Like, you know, you got hold of some emails of mine, and I, like wanted you to be hung. Yeah. But all the emails revealed was, I was, like, just the trashy mouth you all knew I was!! THE LEFT SURPRISE! Yeah. How about that. BUT THEY DON”T KNOW MEEEE!!! It’s hard to polish trash, but somehow we pull it off. Yes we DO!!…..And I took a look around and said, THAT LEFT….If it’s good enough for DONALD, well why would I not say it was good enough for MEEEEE??!!!!”“

Julio?
call me……

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 4:57:26pm

Have to trace the real v. bot new followers.

Fuck him.

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bratwurst  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:00:46pm

Wendy’s (yes, the shitty fast food restaurant) apparently tweeted out a “Pepe” meme before someone thought better of it.

Per the linked story above, some nitwits were crestfallen when the tweet got deleted.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:01:48pm

re: #30 CuriousLurker

I don’t want to think about 1/20/17. I’m gonna go read or something before I get all cranky. Later, lizards.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:02:26pm

re: #36 CuriousLurker

I don’t want to think about 1/20/17. I’m gonna go read or something before I get all cranky. Later, lizards.

I’m hoping to have a new book out by then!

…depending on how fast this round of editing goes, and then all the technical side of things…

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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:02:39pm

re: #35 bratwurst

Your link is broken.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:03:42pm

re: #38 CuriousLurker

Your link is broken.

gizmodo.com

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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:03:47pm

re: #37 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m hoping to have a new book out by then!

…depending on how fast this round of editing goes, and then all the technical side of things…

Good for you! 😊

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:06:00pm

Time for an update in the Beatnik Sarah Photoshop Series.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:06:33pm

re: #23 Stanley Sea

I’d rather watch his numbers go way way down.

Don’t you worry, we’ll see his tweets no matter what.

I just wonder who’s going to have the flotus twitter account—Melania or Ivanka.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:06:36pm

re: #27 BlueGrl21

On a funnier note…

I’ve worked for my much-loved, exceptionally profane and annoying boss for 9 years. By choice: I have refused to work for anyone else. He is an old-school Republican and I am, well, a liberal Democrat. We’ve not discussed politics in all of these years because best not.

I needed some advice on how to deal with a delicate situation in the corporate hierarchy today, so I stuck my head in his office and asked for some guidance.

“I need to have a conversation with you about a political situation.”

He turns around, slams his hands on his desk, and says, “I hate Trump. Hate that stupid fucker.”

Pause. Well, this is new.

“It’s more a corporate political issue but it’s good to know I don’t have to quit any time soon because my boss is an idiot.”

LMAO!

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bratwurst  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:09:28pm

re: #38 CuriousLurker

Your link is broken.

Fixed!

Oh, and look forward to a lot of this kind of nonsense in the months to come:

Fuck this shit is stupid.

I am a sick man. I don’t have the energy to fight this nonsense, except maybe to make some calls or write some letters.

It fucking sucks to admit one is is this powerless, but the situation we find ourselves in has forced my hand.

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:12:33pm

re: #31 BlueGrl21

Going to need someone to count how many people unfollow these accounts on Jan 20th. That will drive Trump NUTS.

Maybe Twitter will have those numbers. They might need them to prove he isn’t all that great.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:15:21pm

re: #44 bratwurst

Fixed!

Oh, and look forward to a lot of this kind of nonsense in the months to come:

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Fuck this shit is stupid.

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Yep, gotta prepare for Armageddon: Israel in End Times Prophecy (archive link)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:16:45pm

re: #44 bratwurst

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:17:55pm

re: #31 BlueGrl21

Going to need someone to count how many people unsubscribe on Jan 20th from these accounts. That will drive Trump NUTS.

Is there an API that can measure exact follows/unfollows over a specific time set? That would be fascinating to track here on LGF…

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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:18:07pm

re: #46 CuriousLurker

Yep, gotta prepare for Armageddon: Israel in End Times Prophecy (archive link)

Gah, messed up my own link. Fixed now.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:18:58pm

re: #30 CuriousLurker

Oh yeah—don’t forget @VP.

That one will end up being a daily Bible quote.

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bratwurst  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:19:29pm

re: #46 CuriousLurker

Yep, gotta prepare for Armageddon: Israel in End Times Prophecy (archive link)

Now YOU have a bad link…must be contagious, sorry.

Oh, and this has been bothering me since I watched it:

Why did CNN air a documentary about the band Chicago produced by band members?

I suspected it was an “authorized” piece when nobody who is on bad terms with the 4 remaining original members appeared on camera (especially Peter Cetera), but it is only revealed that the band produced the thing themselves at the end.

If you like the music, you will enjoy this when it re-airs this weekend…but it is really just an infomercial in “documentary” clothing!

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:20:09pm

re: #42 BeachDem

I just wonder who’s going to have the flotus twitter account—Melania or Ivanka.

Ivanka no doubt.

Melania only posted photos of her jewelry & trips.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:20:32pm

Here is Propane Jane’s thread where she discusses Trump’s mental health issues:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:22:07pm
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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:25:01pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m guessing picking a fight with the spooks isn’t such a great idea. We’ll see, I guess.

G’nite, everyone.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:25:51pm

re: #53 The Vicious Babushka

Here is Propane Jane’s thread where she discusses Trump’s mental health issues:

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This one stands out - find one of his friends

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:27:14pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s trying to de-legitimize the report coming out.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:28:06pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

The downsizing of the intel agencies is more likely to result in critical intel being missed, the resulting intel getting politicized because those who remain in the agency are viewed as loyalists, and puts all Americans in danger.

That’s the opposite of strengthening the homeland and our security. In fact, the only ones who potentially benefit from an intel community purge is the Russians. And whatever terror groups we’re tracking currently.

Slimmed down - which makes little sense when you’ve got more and more diverse threats than ever. You need to be able to track nation level threats like Russia or China or Pakistan or North Korea or Iran, as well as transnational threats like terror groups. Each requires different skills and areas of coverage/overlap and different intel gathering methods too.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:28:36pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

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AND when there’s a terror attack, exactly what his followers fear most will the decimating/pissing off of the intelligence community be a factor?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:29:04pm
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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:29:50pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

This is chilling. In justifying a plan to scale back American intelligence agencies, Trump allies say it’s political wsj.com pic.twitter.com

— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) January 4, 2017

re: #55 CuriousLurker

I’m guessing picking a fight with the spooks isn’t such a great idea. We’ll see, I guess.

G’nite, everyone.

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b.d.  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:30:29pm

The spook community is going to flood this nation with some nasty secrets of Trump and his allies.

I’ll get the popcorn.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:30:49pm
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b.d.  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:31:15pm

If Putin were elected what would he be doing differently?

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:31:15pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

AND when there’s a terror attack, exactly what his followers fear most will the decimating/pissing off of the intelligence community be a factor?

Nah. They will shift the blame to Trump since he knows more than the intelligence community.

/ to infinity and beyond…

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EPR-radar  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:32:05pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

He’s trying to de-legitimize the report coming out.

I’d like to see a formal set of espionage charges vs. Trump campaign officials and possibly Trump himself before the inauguration. Evidence to justify such charges is almost certainly available, so the main question is whether or not it will be acted on in time.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:32:43pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

I’d like to see a formal set of espionage charges vs. Trump campaign officials and possibly Trump himself before the inauguration. Evidence to justify such charges is almost certainly available, so the main question is whether or not it will be acted on in time.

Not gonna happen. Secure the Union and all that crap.

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EPR-radar  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:34:45pm

re: #67 Stanley Sea

Not gonna happen. Secure the Union and all that crap.

If that evidence is out there and not acted on, then we are definitely in the “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” zone.

A report isn’t going to cut it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:36:01pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

I’d like to see a formal set of espionage charges vs. Trump campaign officials and possibly Trump himself before the inauguration. Evidence to justify such charges is almost certainly available, so the main question is whether or not it will be acted on in time.

#LockHimUp

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EPR-radar  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:36:17pm

re: #64 b.d.

If Putin were elected what would he be doing differently?

Putin’s corruption would be less blatant than Trump’s. Other than that, I’ve got nothing.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:36:22pm

re: #58 lawhawk

The downsizing of the intel agencies is more likely to result in critical intel being missed, the resulting intel getting politicized because those who remain in the agency are viewed as loyalists, and puts all Americans in danger.

And Congress wants to cut security funding for US embassies again.

Less (and less reliable) intel + less security at foreign facilities = more fucking Benghazis than you’ll be able to count.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:36:29pm

From the Houston Chronicle, ol’ Grandpa Walnuts doesn’t disappoint:

In a much anticipated meeting, Tillerson was also sat down Wednesday with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. Along with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., McCain has raised questions around Tillerson’s relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin, whom McCain has described as a “thug.”

Asked Wednesday whether he could support Tillerson’s nomination, McCain told reporters, “Sure. There’s also a realistic scenario that pigs fly.”

An aide to McCain said later the McCain was joking and had not yet made a decision on how he would vote.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:36:32pm

All that snow in the Sierras is going to turn into a giant problem this weekend. Unfortunately. I’ve seen predictions that the snow level may end up being over 9000 feet for the storm coming in on Saturday.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:36:37pm

Get ready for some distraction!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:37:18pm

I am counting on the Chinese to be the grownups here and keep the U.S. from fucking everybody on earth to death.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:40:22pm

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

I am counting on the Chinese to be the grownups here and keep the U.S. from fucking everybody on earth to death.

We may be welcoming a full-fledged Chinese takeover when all is said and done. Like Red Dawn but without the parachuting stuff…

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:42:55pm

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

I am counting on the Chinese to be the grownups here and keep the U.S. from fucking everybody on earth to death.

As I implied at the end of the last thread, with the idea of privatization of our grand infrastructural overhaul, we’ll really be looking at the opening of spheres of influence as foreign concerns take charge of our roads and bridges. It would be ironic if the Chinese called for the “open-door” policy.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:45:54pm

Off topic, I could use a spot of advice.

I didn’t feel well today but ended up going into work anyways. This afternoon I texted my boss (who is the only one trained to fill in for me) a heads up that I wasn’t feeling well and, if I still felt sick tomorrow morning that I would be calling in.

She sent back a text that read:
“I’m sorry to hear that. Hope it gets better because I have multiple meetings tomorrow and in between need to get people in for interviews”

Is she simply saying she hopes I don’t have to call in and mess up her day or is she basically saying “f*** you, I don’t care how you feel, you need to work anyways”. To me, it feels like the latter but, feeling like crap, I don’t really trust my objectivity here.

When I ran into her later this afternoon, the only thing she said to me was “Get some rest” and kept walking.

(For the record, either way I’m kind of pissed - I’m a good employee. I show up early every day, do everything that’s asked of me, and I have never called in sick before in the 4 months I’ve worked there. In my opinion, any response to me calling in sick for the first time other than “okay, we’ve got you covered” is kind of BS.)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:46:13pm

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

I am counting on the Chinese to be the grownups here and keep the U.S. from fucking everybody on earth to death.

So we might be looking towards the 2012 commercials about the Chinese buying us up by 2030 as a good thing?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:47:15pm

Wow.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:47:40pm

re: #68 EPR-radar

If that evidence is out there and not acted on, then we are definitely in the “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” zone.

A report isn’t going to cut it.

It really is as if they are all just giving up and letting the American experiment fold up like a cheap suit.

It’s not Idioacracy or The Handmaid’s Tale that’s being used as a how-to manual. It’s The Hunger Games.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:49:53pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

Don’t forget to unfollow

@potus
@flotus
@whitehouse

on Jan 20.

For all the good it will do I will be reporting the first and third of them for targeted harrassment, engaging in hate speech toward a race, religion, or orientation, and threatening violence.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:51:37pm

re: #83 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

For all the good it will do I will be reporting the first and third of them for targeted harrassment, engaging in hate speech toward a race, religion, or orientation, and threatening violence.

Heh, like Jack Dorsey gives a shit about any of that. He won’t suspend Trump from Twitter, even if one of his tweets causes a nuclear holocaust.

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:52:27pm

re: #79 Whack-A-Mole

Off topic, I could use a spot of advice.

I didn’t feel well today but ended up going into work anyways. This afternoon I texted my boss (who is the only one trained to fill in for me) a heads up that I wasn’t feeling well and, if I still felt sick tomorrow morning that I would be calling in.

She sent back a text that read:
“I’m sorry to hear that. Hope it gets better because I have multiple meetings tomorrow and in between need to get people in for interviews”

Is she simply saying she hopes I don’t have to call in and mess up her day or is she basically saying “f*** you, I don’t care how you feel, you need to work anyways”. To me, it feels like the latter but, feeling like crap, I don’t really trust my objectivity here.

When I ran into her later this afternoon, the only thing she said to me was “Get some rest” and kept walking.

(For the record, either way I’m kind of pissed - I’m a good employee. I show up early every day, do everything that’s asked of me, and I have never called in sick before in the 4 months I’ve worked there. In my opinion, any response to me calling in sick for the first time other than “okay, we’ve got you covered” is kind of BS.)

Sounds like she is expecting you to work no matter what. The fact you are new to the job might also mean you haven’t worked long enough to get away with being sick.

Pretty much sucks, but that is how a lot of bosses think. You always need to prove yourself.

Sorry to hear it. Good luck and I hope it all works out. And I hope you feel better.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2017 • 5:55:54pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:00:57pm

Because of course he did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:02:39pm

re: #79 Whack-A-Mole

Go to work and cough in her presence.

A lot.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:03:49pm

My wish is that the Intelligence agencies come out with something absolutely disqualifying about DT, and we have to do a new election. I doubt I get my wish, but I’ve been hoping for this ever since the debacle.

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:05:38pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Go to work and cough in her presence.

A lot.

Heh, I was going to say something like that.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:07:20pm

re: #89 retired cynic

My wish is that the Intelligence agencies come out with something absolutely disqualifying about DT, and we have to do a new election. I doubt I get my wish, but I’ve been hoping for this ever since the debacle.

I withheld that wish thinking it would be too destructive, but seeing what is happening now, I’m not sure it’s any more destructive to the nation than what the GOP has planned in the first week of Trump’s presidency.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:09:50pm

re: #85 ObserverArt

Sounds like she is expecting you to work no matter what. The fact you are new to the job might also mean you haven’t worked long enough to get away with being sick.

Pretty much sucks, but that is how a lot of bosses think. You always need to prove yourself.

Sorry to hear it. Good luck and I hope it all works out. And I hope you feel better.

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Go to work and cough in her presence.

A lot.

Seriously sucks, but as OA said, this may be a hold it against you situ. They SUCK.

Several runs to the restroom are necessary as well. Then collapse at noon.

They suck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:10:53pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

Heh, I was going to say something like that.

My first thought was to vomit on her shoes.

But I like to think I’m a better person than someone who would suggest that…

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EPR-radar  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:11:04pm

re: #91 Barefoot Grin

I withheld that wish thinking it would be too destructive, but seeing what is happening now, I’m not sure it’s any more destructive to the nation than what the GOP has planned in the first week of Trump’s presidency.

Pretty much. Trump is basically a Caligula who is too old to get into the raunchy stuff.

Getting rid of Trump saddles the nation with Pence, but Pence is a god-awful clusterfuck of wrongness within the normal boundaries for such things.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:13:05pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL good idea but I work away from the main office, at the company that we’re contacted to provide services for. Best I could do would be to make a lot of innocent people sick (probably a lot - doing all of the interoffice mail I could probably infect a pretty good % of the people there)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:13:16pm

vomit on their shoes it is then.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:15:13pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

My first thought was to vomit on her shoes.

I actually did that to a stranger at an Elvis Costello concert.

It was the Punk era and I had a lot of beer.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:18:29pm

re: #79 Whack-A-Mole

When I was sick and called in and certain supervisors tried to guilt me into coming in, I would say “ok, but if I get into a car accident on the way in because I am incapacitated, I am gonna sue you because you basically forced me to come in”
The response always was, “we’ll see you when you feel better”
I probably only got away with this because I had one of those “cushy” government jobs.
Not sure it would work in the private sector. In that case, I would come in and cough all over everybody and collapse mid day.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:20:08pm

In all seriousness though, I’m more than a little tempted to show up tomorrow just long enough to turn in my security badge and other work items and tell them to piss off if that’s all the better they’re going to treat employees.

I mean, they actually pay worse than f***ing Wal-Mart does these days, and I get absolutely no benefits at all despite working near full-time (38 hrs/wk). If I’m not even going to get a shred of loyalty from them, I see zero reason to stay (other than the fact that I need money of course - that’s kind of a big one. But shit pay, zero benefits, treated like crap, I think I can probably find another situation like that without too much difficulty).

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:20:18pm

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:21:59pm

I’m just going to politely pretend I can’t read that.

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:22:17pm
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unproven innocence  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:23:08pm

re: #100 Eric The Fruit Bat
2nd ] should be [ Nevermind.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:23:52pm

@IndivisibleATX
For the Austin, TX Area

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:24:35pm

re: #99 Whack-A-Mole

In all seriousness though, I’m more than a little tempted to show up tomorrow just long enough to turn in my security badge and other work items and tell them to piss off if that’s all the better they’re going to treat employees.

I mean, they actually pay worse than f***ing Wal-Mart does these days, and I get absolutely no benefits at all despite working near full-time. If I’m not even going to get a shred of loyalty from them, I see zero reason to stay (other than the fact that I need money of course - that’s kind of a big one. But shit pay, zero benefits, treated like crap, I think I can probably find another situation like that without too much difficulty).

That might harm you in the long run and come back to haunt your job record. Instead, go in if you can, hang as tough as you can and start looking for a new job as soon as you can. Then hand in your notice you are leaving. Maybe in a nice way hint to why you are leaving but be nice about it. Be the bigger person, it always pays.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:25:05pm

Rachael Maddow is doing a great segment on Indivisible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:25:23pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:28:53pm

re: #97 makeitstop

Proud of ya.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:29:24pm

re: #104 Dave In Austin

re: #106 Unshaken Defiance

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:29:30pm

re: #104 Dave In Austin

@IndivisibleATX
For the Austin, TX Area

This will be the tool and the direction in which we can resist. This needs a big megaphone and needs to be pushed. Please check your local for a group.

This will be our Tea party… Gaaa!

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:30:20pm

re: #100 Eric The Fruit Bat

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:32:44pm

re: #10 InfidelOfFreedom

There was a (sometimes tempting) particular strain of reactionary leftism during the Bush years that was basically “the enemy of my enemy…” The same strain that also led to some embracing Chavez despite all evidence that he was an anti-democratic megalomaniac.

Yep. Proud to say while I never liked Bush, that was something I avoided.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:34:39pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like Periello, I’ve met him even and he was very brave to vote for ACA and not run away from it but I really think he should have ran for his old seat first. That said, I’m okay with this. A healthy primary could do some good.

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:35:10pm

Today marks 6 years since a brave Muslim politician who risked EVERYTHING to protect a poor Christian woman falsely accused of blasphemy and on death row for 6 years, only to be brutally murdered by his own piece of shit bodyguard.

And now we see these same miscreants rampaging out in the streets demanding anyone who denounces the stupid blasphemy law in Pakistan should be sentenced to death:

I wished I was never born there in such a decadent cesspool of intolerance and bigotry.

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:35:28pm

re: #110 Dave In Austin

This will be the tool and the direction in which we can resist. This needs a big megaphone and needs to be pushed. Please check your local for a group.

This will be our Tea party… Gaaa!

Yes. This is what I have been looking for. The “leaderless movement” model of Occupy (and to a lesser extent of Black Lives Matter) do not end up actually accomplishing their goals because nobody will do the work of politics.

BLM refused to meet with Obama at the White House.

What the fuck have they done in the meantime? You had the ear of the most powerful man on the planet and you walked away to remain “pure”???

Occupy was worse. I was involved in one of the planning committees for Occupy Greensboro and it was a damned nightmare. Every person with a grudge or a cause was hijacking everything we did. That times a thousand at the New York camp. Fucking drum circles and hemp oil.

We need a take a new look at Rules for Radicals and learn long term resistance while also taking political power. Not just marching in the street…taking power.

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:37:05pm

re: #114 electrotek

Next time any anti-Muslim bigot has the nerve to bring up why Muslims don’t speak out for minorities in their own countries, invoke the name Salman Taseer and tell them what he did to protect a poor defenceless Christian woman from a rampaging intolerant majority.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:43:39pm

re: #99 Whack-A-Mole

In all seriousness though, I’m more than a little tempted to show up tomorrow just long enough to turn in my security badge and other work items and tell them to piss off if that’s all the better they’re going to treat employees.

I mean, they actually pay worse than f***ing Wal-Mart does these days, and I get absolutely no benefits at all despite working near full-time (38 hrs/wk). If I’m not even going to get a shred of loyalty from them, I see zero reason to stay (other than the fact that I need money of course - that’s kind of a big one. But shit pay, zero benefits, treated like crap, I think I can probably find another situation like that without too much difficulty).

re: #105 ObserverArt

That might harm you in the long run and come back to haunt your job record. Instead, go in if you can, hang as tough as you can and start looking for a new job as soon as you can. Then hand in your notice you are leaving. Maybe in a nice way hint to why you are leaving but be nice about it. Be the bigger person, it always pays.

It’s usually better to look for a job when you have a job, barring illegality or immorality.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:46:54pm
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darthstar  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:49:23pm

So I kind of shit the bed here earlier today for bringing up the B-man. My apologies for that as it came damn close to violating my New Year’s resolution to myself to not relitigate the shitshow of 2016 we call the most admirable Democratic process on earth.

To make up for it, here’s a picture of the dinner I’m making…at Thanksgiving, we’d bought a bacon-wrapped boneless turkey stuffed with sausage from this French butchery in San Francisco. Very nice, but also a bit pricey. My wife came home for New Year’s eve with a couple of nice dry aged Cote de Boeufs - about 2lbs each - one of which we gave to friends as a hostess gift for their hosting New Year’s morning bagels and lox flown in from NYC, and a package of the stuffing that was in the Thanksgiving bird. As I was leaving for work I said, “What do you want to do with that stuffing?” She said, “I’m not sure.” and I said, “Let’s get a turkey leg, we’ll debone it, and make our own little roti. I came home to a turkey leg, which I deboned, stuffed, and wrapped with bacon and…voila!

No hard feelings, I hope. I really am trying to turn over a new leaf and put the last year in the dumpster-fire of history where it belongs.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:51:51pm

re: #119 darthstar

Works for me.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:52:49pm

re: #119 darthstar

None here, man. I love you.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:55:09pm

re: #119 darthstar

No worries, moving on.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:55:36pm

Re: Indivisible Guide as seen on Maddow show.
Download here.
indivisibleguide.com

Reading it later tonight.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:56:25pm

re: #115 Scottishdragon

Yes. This is what I have been looking for. The “leaderless movement” model of Occupy (and to a lesser extent of Black Lives Matter) do not end up actually accomplishing their goals because nobody will do the work of politics.

BLM refused to meet with Obama at the White House.

What the fuck have they done in the meantime? You had the ear of the most powerful man on the planet and you walked away to remain “pure”???

Occupy was worse. I was involved in one of the planning committees for Occupy Greensboro and it was a damned nightmare. Every person with a grudge or a cause was hijacking everything we did. That times a thousand at the New York camp. Fucking drum circles and hemp oil.

We need a take a new look at Rules for Radicals and learn long term resistance while also taking political power. Not just marching in the street…taking power.

Brittany Packnett & Deray McKesson did meet with Obama.

Brittany is on the task force that will end shortly.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:58:10pm

From Rick Wilson’s twitter feed

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2017 • 6:59:40pm

Trump will go on Twitter jubilating because Macy’s dropped his Chinese-made shirts and ties. Wait for it.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:00:19pm

I just shared that Propane Jane tweetstorm with a friend on FB, and she came back with ‘we shouldn’t be doing amateur analysis over the internet.’

I know PJ is a mental health professional - anyone know exactly what she does? TIA.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:02:28pm

re: #119 darthstar

So I kind of shit the bed here earlier today for bringing up the B-man. My apologies for that as it came damn close to violating my New Year’s resolution to myself to not relitigate the shitshow of 2016 we call the most admirable Democratic process on earth.

To make up for it, here’s a picture of the dinner I’m making…at Thanksgiving, we’d bought a bacon-wrapped boneless turkey stuffed with sausage from this French butchery in San Francisco. Very nice, but also a bit pricey. My wife came home for New Year’s eve with a couple of nice dry aged Cote de Boeufs - about 2lbs each - one of which we gave to friends as a hostess gift for their hosting New Year’s morning bagels and lox flown in from NYC, and a package of the stuffing that was in the Thanksgiving bird. As I was leaving for work I said, “What do you want to do with that stuffing?” She said, “I’m not sure.” and I said, “Let’s get a turkey leg, we’ll debone it, and make our own little roti. I came home to a turkey leg, which I deboned, stuffed, and wrapped with bacon and…voila!

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No hard feelings, I hope. I really am trying to turn over a new leaf and put the last year in the dumpster-fire of history where it belongs.

It’s cool, man.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:04:25pm

re: #86 makeitstop

I died laughing. Thank you. (From hell, because the current reality sure isn’t heaven.)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:04:32pm

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

I am counting on the Chinese to be the grownups here and keep the U.S. from fucking everybody on earth to death.

The Chinese economy depends on Americans (and others) buying products made in China. Maintaining a stable world economy benefits the Chinese politically and financially, because the Communist Party needs a happy, well fed and complacent populace for it to stay in power without too much drama. But China will orchestrate things to its own advantage, not the USA’s. IOW, China may end up being the #1 world power.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:05:58pm

re: #3 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I saw one that close in real life once. Flying straight at me. I’m wondering if it had never seen a human before and was trying to find out if I was good to eat.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:07:16pm

re: #130 wheat-dogg

The Chinese economy depends on Americans (and others) buying products made in China. Maintaining a stable world economy benefits the Chinese politically and financially, because the Communist Party needs a happy, well fed and complacent populace for it to stay in power without too much drama. But China will orchestrate things to its own advantage, not the USA’s. IOW, China may end up being the #1 world power.

If not the number 1 power in the world, they will be the dominant political power in Asia if Trump and Co keep acting the way they are.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:07:27pm

re: #129 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I died laughing. Thank you. (From hell, because the current reality sure isn’t heaven.)

Every time that bear fell over, I cracked up. Watched it three times. :)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:08:41pm

re: #133 makeitstop

Every time that bear fell over, I cracked up. Watched it three times. :)

That bear would so be me. And that ending. Oh man.

(I have finished my role of evil whip-cracking older sister making the baby write up the outline for her master’s thesis and am free to go back to my editing. Yay?)

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:09:37pm

re: #119 darthstar

So I kind of shit the bed here earlier today for bringing up the B-man. My apologies for that as it came damn close to violating my New Year’s resolution to myself to not relitigate the shitshow of 2016 we call the most admirable Democratic process on earth.

I’ve always admired you had a candidate you were really passionate to support . And Bernie did have his good points.

Now it is the time to rechannel efforts and go all in against Trump and focus on Democrats in your area to build a base the party needs for the future and midterms in 2018. By 2020 hope there is a good candidate out there somewhere for you and all of us to back with that same amount of belief.

Ant pat that cool doggie Banjo on the head for all of us.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:09:45pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:09:54pm

re: #114 electrotek

Today marks 6 years since a brave Muslim politician who risked EVERYTHING to protect a poor Christian woman falsely accused of blasphemy and on death row for 6 years, only to be brutally murdered by his own piece of shit bodyguard.

And now we see these same miscreants rampaging out in the streets demanding anyone who denounces the stupid blasphemy law in Pakistan should be sentenced to death:

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I wished I was never born there in such a decadent cesspool of intolerance and bigotry.

One of my best friends from college has grandparents who helped establish Pakistan. I reconnected a few years ago on FB. His comments frequently echo your own.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:13:00pm

I wish something would come of this, but I’m not too optimistic: Per Raw Story, 50 Trump electors were illegitimate.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:16:06pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:17:07pm

re: #58 lawhawk

I bet Comey keeps his job…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:17:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:21:33pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:21:43pm

re: #140 GlutenFreeJesus

I bet Comey keeps his job…

Comey will get the same “Friend of Russia” title that Rex Tillerson got years ago.

And no Republican will give two s—ts about it because they don’t have the brainpower to comprehend it.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:21:56pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

I am embarrassed to confess that long ago (but for a very short time! I swear!) I thought he was on the up-and-up.

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:23:46pm

re: #137 Barefoot Grin

One of my best friends from college has grandparents who helped establish Pakistan. I reconnected a few years ago on FB. His comments frequently echo your own.

I’m glad I’m not alone on this one.

These people are doing more to blot the image of Islam and Pakistan with their obsession on blasphemy. And the crazy part is that the idiot Qadri-worshipers in Pakistan aren’t even Deobandi or Salafi, but of the Barelwi Sufi sect. A sect that has been championed by the West for being moderate against the Taliban.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:23:55pm
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nines09  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:26:03pm

re: #35 bratwurst

Wendy’s (yes, the shitty fast food restaurant) apparently tweeted out a “Pepe” meme before someone thought better of it.

Per the linked story above, some nitwits were crestfallen when the tweet got deleted.

Started throwing with a drunk and then thought better of it. WENDYS. HOT AND JUICY.

Take THAT you schmuck. Ya….
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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:27:24pm

re: #86 makeitstop

I’ll just leave this here. Heh.

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re: #129 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I died laughing. Thank you. (From hell, because the current reality sure isn’t heaven.)

I didn’t watch…bookmarked for later in a new tab due to content. : )

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:27:51pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:28:18pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:28:44pm

re: #111 Stanley Sea

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:29:23pm

re: #149 Belafon

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Ann you’re CHOOSING to believe the Russians.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:29:24pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

indivisibleguide.com
Maybe a page could be written about this. This is how it was done starting in 2009. I know a lot of people who post here live in red districts.
I would try, but I’m not a good writer.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:29:27pm

Insanity.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:30:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:30:31pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Insanity.

Just unfuckingbelievable.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:30:48pm

re: #155 jaunte

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It always was frankly.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:31:15pm

re: #151 Eric The Fruit Bat

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:31:27pm

“Family values, pro life” now even their “patriotism” is revealed to be bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:32:19pm

They only fucking care about power.

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whitebeach  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:32:39pm

re: #7 harlequinade

Also Gulf War made us distrust anything, so when someone came along and posted to our particular vanity, we swallowed it.

I respect what you say but disagree. The Vietnam War and Watergate, at least for my generation, had long since made us distrust our government. But most of us thought we could still rely on a free press to expose the crooked fuckers. All the President’s Men was a movie, and therefore highly dramatized, but still the fact is that a couple of guys at the Washington Post (and even at the New York Times, hard as it may be to believe nowadays) burned some shoe leather and pounded on typewriters and brought down a whole gang of immensely powerful crooks.

I’m not sure exactly where it changed, maybe when CBS News became part of the entertainment division, maybe during the Whitewater nonsense, but certainly with the invasion of Iraq, when the entire “journalistic” apparatus essentially became a machine to sell ads while waving flags and worshipping “heroes.” Goebbels would have eaten his heart out.

The farther along the road I wander, the more I think that TV eventually fucks up everything it touches.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:33:01pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Insanity.

I read through some of the replies and ran into “But they exposed the Democrats rigging the election against Bernie.”

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:34:27pm

re: #84 Myron Falwell (no relation)

In a case like that there won’t be any Twitter to suspend him from.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:35:12pm

re: #162 Belafon

I read through some of the replies and ran into “But they exposed the Democrats rigging the election against Bernie.”

I’m so sick of that lie. If it was really rigged against Bernie, it wouldn’t have taken Clinton so long to get the delegates. The Dem establishment had every right to prefer a lifelong Dem and Bernie has shown why since the election.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:35:33pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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I guess Ann decided to chime in between her recent partying with noted white supremacists Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer and Kevin MacDonald.

Ann Coulter’s white Christmas: VDARE holiday bash is her second white nationalist event this quarter

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:37:37pm

re: #165 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I guess Ann decided to chime in between her recent partying with noted white supremacists Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer and Kevin MacDonald.

Ann Coulter’s white Christmas: VDARE holiday bash is her second white nationalist event this quarter

She’s a bigot, no different from the Klan.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:37:59pm

re: #161 whitebeach

I respect what you say but disagree. The Vietnam War and Watergate, at least for my generation, had long since made us distrust our government. But most of us thought we could still rely on a free press to expose the crooked fuckers. All the President’s Men was a movie, and therefore highly dramatized, but still the fact is that a couple of guys at the Washington Post (and even at the New York Times, hard as it may be to believe nowadays) burned some shoe leather and pounded on typewriters and brought down a whole gang of immensely powerful crooks.

I’m not sure exactly where it changed, maybe when CBS News became part of the entertainment division, maybe during the Whitewater nonsense, but certainly with the invasion of Iraq, when the entire “journalistic” apparatus essentially became a machine to sell ads while waving flags and worshipping “heroes.” Goebbels would have eaten his heart out.

The farther along the road I wander, the more I think that TV eventually fucks up everything it touches.

In one sense, thew news has always been about selling ads. Why were newspapers so cheap? Because of the ads.

What really changed was the end of the fairness doctrine and the beginning of Fox. And in their slow march they have changed the definition of fact and created a whole industry to attract and create people that will deny the validity of anything that they don’t agree with. These people used to be on the fringe.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:38:41pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Insanity.

Trump is scared sh*tless about what the US Intel community is likely to find regarding his involvement in the Russian hacks which is why they need to leverage EVERY available resource into the investigation because come Jan 20 Trump will do everything in his power to shut them down, and has already said as much.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:38:48pm

More hypocrisy, this time on deficits.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:39:09pm
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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:40:13pm

Seems like the only actual policy from conservatives is tax cuts for the rich, and everything else is just distraction.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:40:17pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Insanity.

He’s covering his ass.

There may be direct links. Or not.

He’s just sowing the doubt of the idjits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:41:01pm
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:42:26pm

re: #165 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I guess Ann decided to chime in between her recent partying with noted white supremacists Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer and Kevin MacDonald.

Ann Coulter’s white Christmas: VDARE holiday bash is her second white nationalist event this quarter

Next thing you know, Ann Coulter will reveal herself to be best buds with that whacko Russian facist Aleksandr Dugin.

And then it all makes sense.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:43:04pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Too bad she’s a huge minority in her party because most of them could care less about that.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:45:07pm

Read The whole thing and be prepared…..

NYTimes: ‘Church Militant’ theology is put to new, and Politiciszed, Use:

A week after Stephen K. Bannon helped engineer the populist revolt that led to Donald J. Trump’s election, Buzzfeed unearthed a recording of him speaking to a Vatican conference of conservative Catholics in 2014.

In his presentation, Mr. Bannon, then the head of the hard-right website Breitbart News and now Mr. Trump’s chief strategist, called on the “church militant” to fight a global war against a “new barbarity” of “Islamic fascism” and international financial elites, with 2,500 years of Western civilization at risk.

While most listeners probably overlooked the term “church militant,” knowledgeable Catholics would have recognized it as a concept deeply embedded in the church’s teaching. Moreover, they would have noticed that Mr. Bannon had taken the term out of context, invoking it in a call for cultural and military conflict rather than for spiritual warfare, particularly within one’s soul, its longstanding connotation.

As the Trump administration prepares to take office, the use of Church Militant theology has gone well beyond its religious meaning and has taken on a political resonance. To fully grasp what “church militant” means in this highly politicized atmosphere, it helps to examine the broader movement and the role of a traditionalist Catholic website called — to no surprise — churchmilitant.com.

“This is a hard-core group, and the question is whether the number is growing,” said the Rev. John T. Pawlikowski, a professor of social ethics at the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago, referring to the broader movement that includes churchmilitant.com. “If the Trump election baptizes this stuff as more authentic Catholic teaching, that would be a disaster.”

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:46:10pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ana Navarro needs to leave the Republican Party outright, if not for her own sanity.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:48:09pm

re: #176 Eric The Fruit Bat

Read The whole thing and be prepared…..

NYTimes: ‘Church Militant’ theology is put to new, and Politiciszed, Use:

I had an idea once for a Chistian zealot group in a story. The leader had a sword whose hand guard was Jesus on the cross.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:49:19pm

re: #176 Eric The Fruit Bat

Read The whole thing and be prepared…..

NYTimes: ‘Church Militant’ theology is put to new, and Politiciszed, Use:

What’s the Christian equivalent to Jihad?

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:49:33pm

re: #124 Stanley Sea

Brittany Packnett & Deray McKesson did meet with Obama.

Brittany is on the task force that will end shortly.

Ta Nehisi Coates talked pretty extensively about BLM activists refusing to meet with Obama. It may have been another occasion.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:49:37pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I’m so sick of that lie. If it was really rigged against Bernie, it wouldn’t have taken Clinton so long to get the delegates. The Dem establishment had every right to prefer a lifelong Dem and Bernie has shown why since the election.

If it was rigged against Senator Sanders, the Democratic Party would has said, “Thanks, Bernie, but you can’t run in our primary.” And that still wouldn’t be rigged, as Senator Sanders has been so long an independent.

I am really glad we didn’t go to the doc today in Sidney: Traffic cam showing road conditions right outside town now.
lb.511.nebraska.gov (dark, but visible - the paved road through town)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:50:30pm

re: #179 Belafon

What’s the Christian equivalent to Jihad?

I see what you did there.

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:50:34pm

re: #179 Belafon

What’s the Christian equivalent to Jihad?

Crusade.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:52:03pm

re: #181 Anymouse

If it was rigged against Senator Sanders, the Democratic Party would has said, “Thanks, Bernie, but you can’t run in our primary.” And that still wouldn’t be rigged, as Senator Sanders has been so long an independent.

I am really glad we didn’t go to the doc today in Sidney: Traffic cam showing road conditions right outside town now.
lb.511.nebraska.gov (dark, but visible - the paved road through town)

Right and if the Dem Party so favors its establishment, Clinton wins in 2008. Bernie had flaws. It’s unfortunate his diehards refuse to see that. You don’t perform how he did with minorities and win Dem primaries, you just don’t.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:53:00pm

re: #179 Belafon

What’s the Christian word for Jihad?

“Struggle”

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:54:07pm

re: #182 Eric The Fruit Bat

I see what you did there.

I may be an atheist, but if Jesus really did come to earth to do what he says, a whole lot of “Christians” will be too busy being tormented to grasp how badly they’ve fucked up.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:54:59pm

Living in “interesting times.”

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:55:06pm

re: #185 jaunte

“Struggle”

Now, what’s the “Christian” word?

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:55:27pm

re: #188 Belafon

“Kampf?”

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:56:16pm

re: #176 Eric The Fruit Bat

Read The whole thing and be prepared…..

NYTimes: ‘Church Militant’ theology is put to new, and Politiciszed, Use:

Because of this we shouldn’t be surprised that there are thousands of closet-Breivik supporters and wannabes in this country. They have more weapons in their arsenal than Breivik could ever envision, and that’s a fucking scary thought.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 7:59:27pm

There’s a theme really pulling this all together.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:00:11pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Right and if the Dem Party so favors its establishment, Clinton wins in 2008. Bernie had flaws. It’s unfortunate his diehards refuse to see that. You don’t perform how he did with minorities and win Dem primaries, you just don’t.

Well, every candidate has flaws. They’re all human. Hillary Clinton ran a better campaign, and won a majority of the Democratic Party’s primary votes. I still don’t get this “rigged against Bernie” stuff: I caucused for Bernie Sanders here, and he won both my county and my state, but he lost the primary. Though he might have stayed in the race longer than some liked, that was his right, and he did concede, and that should have been the end of it.

Everyone wanting their purity pony means we now have Donald Trump.

I keep reading that “Hillary Clinton didn’t earn our votes” at leftier-than-thou sights. Nope. That’s not how it works. How it works is you have pretty much two candidates, and you choose the one who is not a fascist. That is the “civic responsibility” part of voting, not holding your breath until you turn blue (or Texas does).

That’s how elections go. Losing is not equal to “rigged.” As for any E-mail between Democratic Party staffers that might have shown personal preference, well I suppose we could say the primary was rigged against Martin O’Malley as well … funny how you don’t hear that one.

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:01:10pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

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This is where the culture war (our cold civil war) leads to.

The Democrats have been described as the enemy of all things American by the GOP for a generation (and then some) and maximalist, Manichean logic leads to eliminationist outcomes.

This is how the “patriotic” party flirts with what used to be called treason…because they will use any avenue, any machination and any ally to defeat the 55% of the population they hate right here at home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:02:25pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:02:26pm

One thing I’ve learned in this new year is that conservative politicians don’t give a shit about “values” or “life” or any of that crap, they care about one thing and one thing only, power. And now that they have it, they couldn’t care less about folks calling them out for blatant hypocrisy. They got theirs, screw everybody else. It’s downright psychopathic.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:02:50pm

re: #191 jaunte

It’s odd, I don’t have to change my position on Assange whether or not he helped someone I like. Kind of like not having to change my position on guns whether its a white or black person.

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:03:47pm

re: #186 Belafon

I may be an atheist, but if Jesus really did come to earth to do what he says, a whole lot of “Christians” will be too busy being tormented to grasp how badly they’ve fucked up.

American evangelicals don’t seem to realize just how seriously heretical many American Christian beliefs really are.

Jesus absolutely DID NOT equate financial success with spiritual success. Almost the opposite, in fact.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:09:06pm

re: #196 Belafon

It’s odd, I don’t have to change my position on Assange whether or not he helped someone I like. Kind of like not having to change my position on guns whether its a white or black person.

Yeah, even when Wikileaks was the height of fashion on the Left, I wasn’t so much for the idea that any ol’ schmuck dumping documents to them on a corporation, a state, or a national government agency was a really wonderful idea.

In the world of realpolitick there are some things that governments need to do that aren’t subject to public scrutiny. In a democratic republic, those agencies or entities should be overseen by the elected representatives (one of the reasons we elect people in the first place). I never was much for a libertarian idea of “all information to everyone all the time.”

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:22:38pm

re: #177 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Ana Navarro needs to leave the Republican Party outright, if not for her own sanity.

She’s a Republican but voted for Hillary.

I trust her comments, because it gives me insight to the sane GOP.

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Honey Punch!  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:31:57pm

“I can suck up to Russia from my house!”
-Sarah P

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:29:48am

Teleskiguy - my buddy’s kid…Sherwood Cliffs….yesterday


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