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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:06:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:07:53pm
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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:10:57pm

Hitting them in the pocketbook might make cops think twice.

Texas teen slammed to the ground in pool party video sues city, police for $5M
msn.com

She is the African-American teenager body slammed to the ground by a McKinney, TX, cop. The officer has since resigned his post.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:11:38pm
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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:13:15pm
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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:14:53pm

re: #1 jaunte

Another one for Ana Navarro (if I were on Twitter, I would send it out as well):

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:15:47pm

Breaking tonight…at least 50 Trump electors may have been illegally seated…including 7 here in NC for things like not living in the district or holding dual offices.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:18:23pm

re: #7 Scottishdragon

Won’t make any difference (I read that earlier today). Republicans will still certify the Electoral College vote. Power first and always is the mantra of conservatism throughout the ages in every nation on Earth.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:20:08pm

n***** DIDN’T DO ANYTHING, GODDAMN n*****!

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:21:19pm

Donald Trump doesn’t care about any of this, and neither do the craven Republicans that supported him, and those that accuse us of “supporting terrorism” for supporting the Khan family against Mr. Trump’s baseless attacks.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:22:59pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

n***** DIDN’T DO ANYTHING, GODDAMN n*****!

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What a bast*rd!

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:24:39pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Newt, starring in his own life as the Adulterous Projectionist.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:25:21pm

re: #12 jaunte

Newt, starring in his own life as the Adulterous Projectionist.

That’s more PC than mine. Blast him.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:27:27pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:27:37pm
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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:28:48pm
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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:30:30pm

re: #7 Scottishdragon

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Breaking tonight…at least 50 Trump electors may have been illegally seated…including 7 here in NC for things like not living in the district or holding dual offices.

So, absolutely nothing associated with Trump’s election says he won. Which is why McConnell and Ryan will set the country on fire before they’re done.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:31:02pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:32:01pm

Looks like fun.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:33:28pm

re: #1 jaunte

re: #5 Anymouse

The first question is: How many Republicans are like these two?
The second question is: What can we do to make common cause with people like this, and use it to end the power of those like Trump, McConnell, and Ryan?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:34:22pm
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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:37:20pm

All of the veterans’ service organisations are pretty much on board with the idea that the GOP privatising the VA is a really bad idea.

From the Disabled American Veterans:

veteransaidbenefit.org

The VA, being socialised medicine, stands against conservative orthodoxy that the free market provides the best outcomes. Back in 2006, BusinessWeek magazine ranked the VA as the best medical care system in the USA, over all corporate hospital systems.

“The 154 hospitals and 875 clinics run by the Veterans Affairs Dept. have been ranked best-in-class by a number of independent groups on a broad range of measures, from chronic care to heart disease treatment to percentage of members who receive flu shots. It offers all the same services, and sometimes more, than private sector providers.”

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:39:19pm

Mr. Trump making the VA “one of his top priorities” is probably why he has no one in mind yet as a VA director.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:39:28pm

Raw Story: Why are vinyl records making a comeback?
(via LA Times:)

My passion for collecting records is driven by the same judgment. It was only after I uploaded my CD collection to iTunes, then abandoned that for the endless buffet of streaming, that the unseen benefits of listening to vinyl became apparent. All the digital inventions (MP3s, iPods, Wi-Fi, cloud computing) that brought me free, disembodied music anywhere, anytime, made me value music I can own, display, touch and feel with all my senses. To the millions of consumers worldwide who have resurrected the record industry over the past few years, I suspect the feeling is mutual. To us, the return of vinyl — even as we listen to streaming services on the drive to work — represents not regression, but progress.

Silicon Valley may never look back, but for the generation who has grown up with omnipresent digital technology, nostalgia isn’t just some foolish whim. It is a life raft, and the one sure means of grounding ourselves in a world that promises constant change. My turntable is from the 1970s and so are many of the records that play on it. It can be fixed, modified and restored, but it cannot be rendered obsolete. When disruption is the norm, the real disruption may just be permanence.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:39:43pm

re: #5 Anymouse

I actually trust 17 intelligence agencies charged with keeping us safe over Julian Assange, Sean. Almost all who serve across multiple administrations.

But that’s just me.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:40:33pm

Here’s Trump’s newly named Dir. of Oval Office Operations @KeithSchiller45 punching a protestor in the head in 2015…

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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:40:55pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Confirms everything I already suspected or knew about Cernovich. He’s all hat, no cattle. And the gorilla motif he espouses makes no real sense, as gorillas are vegetarian and rarely aggressive. Maybe he learned everything he knows about gorillas from watching King Kong.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:44:53pm

re: #24 Eric The Fruit Bat

Well, it will certainly benefit manufacturers of high-end audio equipment.

My son and my step-son are really into vinyl, and got into it about a year or two after I divested myself of my entire LP collection. Of course.

I figured neither of them would want to be burdened with four milk crates full of LPs, and I didn’t bother asking. Of course.

D’oh!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:45:21pm

re: #27 wheat-dogg

And the gorilla motif he espouses makes no real sense, as gorillas are vegetarian and rarely aggressive

There was an infamous investment book called “The Gorilla Game” that may have laid the foundation for the current ‘gorilla’ meme.
(Needless to say, following it’s advice was a disaster following the tech collapse in 2000, especially if you were trying to pick winners using its formulation.)

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:45:22pm

re: #3 wheat-dogg

Hitting them in the pocketbook might make cops think twice.

Texas teen slammed to the ground in pool party video sues city, police for $5M
msn.com

She is the African-American teenager body slammed to the ground by a McKinney, TX, cop. The officer has since resigned his post.

They’ve always been hit in the pocketbook, but it’s the city that pays. The cops? They just move to another jurisdiction.

Hey, an interesting investigation = how do police forces/cities who employ them buy insurance? Do they submit new cops to the policy without investigation?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:46:05pm

re: #6 Anymouse

Another one for Ana Navarro (if I were on Twitter, I would send it out as well):

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You are on twitter. You post from there.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:46:32pm

Questions Mount as Trump Loses More VA Secretary Candidates (goes to Military Times, January 2)

It’s not like he hasn’t been aware of the fact he has no candidate for the VA (his top priority)… .

And the 2014 wait-time scandal referenced in the article? It is because of government oversight that scandal was rooted out and corrective action taken.

Had that been a commercial hospital system, you think there would have been a peep in the press about it?

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:46:38pm

Republicans are now outsourcing the witch-hunting to their grunts.

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:48:27pm

re: #24 Eric The Fruit Bat

Raw Story: Why are vinyl records making a comeback?
(via LA Times:)

Until vinyl comes back and replaces fucking laptops at the DJ booth and celebrates beatmatching over social media marketing prowess within dance music, I’ll take the vinyl “comeback” with a grain of salt.

I grew up in raves when vinyl was king, and turntablism was looked at with wonder, and seeing DJ’s perform “double-drops” to showcase their excellent ear in music selection, so it’s a sore subject for me.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:48:47pm

re: #28 wheat-dogg

My son and my step-son are really into vinyl, and got into it about a year or two after I divested myself of my entire LP collection. Of course.

I still have many half-speed Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab/Nautilus/CBS Mastersound/Angel 45 RPM Sonic Series/Japanese vinyl records-I even have a direct-to-disc recording made by Sheffield Labs of the LA Philharmonic playing Wagner’s “Ride of the Valkyries” conducted by Eric Liensdorf.

I could probably make a few shekels if I pwned them off on ebay….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:49:22pm

Gotta say that I’m somewhat relieved that my underground house/bunker will be completed this year. That I have a fully functional farm for food, timber, mountain medicinal herbs and roots, and an overabundance of whitetail deer, wild turkeys and other game. Backup energy sources, yep we got the wind, solar and hydro.
And, best of all, a carefully selected and cultivated group of talented folks who know where they can find a bolthole if shit really hits the fan. The internet might be iffy, but I’ve been a ham radio operator since the mid 1970s, so some level of communication is covered.

This is not to say I believe any catastrophic events are in the offing.

OTOH, I’ll be ready for the next time a natural disaster hits like it did here in 2003 when an ice storm hit (I’m talking 5+inches of ice in less than a day) and we were without power for more than three weeks. (And no one in the rest of the country knew or cared about it.)

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:49:51pm

re: #34 electrotek

Until vinyl comes back and replaces fucking laptops at the DJ booth and celebrates beatmatching over social media marketing prowess within dance music, I’ll take the vinyl “comeback” with a grain of salt.

I grew up in raves when vinyl was king, and turntablism was looked at with wonder, and seeing DJ’s perform “double-drops” to showcase their excellent ear in music selection, so it’s a sore subject for me.

I am not replacing all my records with CDs. As for digitising audio tracks on records, well gee, my laptop can do that with the output of my phonograph.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:52:25pm

re: #34 electrotek

I grew up in raves when vinyl was king, and turntablism was looked at with wonder, and seeing DJ’s perform “double-drops” to showcase their excellent ear in music selection, so it’s a sore subject for me.

You young whippersnapper, you. (grin)

I had a personal trainer who did turntabling on the side back in 2000 back at The Mission in Elgin IL. Wild times-especially for a 40+ year old male…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:52:27pm

re: #23 Anymouse

Mr. Trump making the VA “one of his top priorities” is probably why he has no one in mind yet as a VA director.

I’m still thinking it will be Alan West

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:53:10pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:53:32pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still thinking it will be Alan West

noooooooooooo

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:53:51pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still thinking it will be Alan West

AAAAAaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:54:08pm

re: #24 Eric The Fruit Bat

Shrug. The first time I listened to an audio CD in German in 1985 I decided I wanted nothing to do with vinyl anymore. Nothing I’ve listened to since has changed my mind.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:54:26pm

re: #40 Anymouse

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:55:12pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotta say that I’m somewhat relieved that my underground house/bunker will be completed this year. That I have a fully functional farm for food, timber, mountain medicinal herbs and roots, and an overabundance of whitetail deer, wild turkeys and other game. Backup energy sources, yep we got the wind, solar and hydro.
And, best of all, a carefully selected and cultivated group of talented folks who know where they can find a bolthole if shit really hits the fan. The internet might be iffy, but I’ve been a ham radio operator since the mid 1970s, so some level of communication is covered.

This is not to say I believe any catastrophic events are in the offing.

OTOH, I’ll be ready for the next time a natural disaster hits like it did here in 2003 when an ice storm hit (I’m talking 5+inches of ice in less than a day) and we were without power for more than three weeks. (And no one in the rest of the country knew or cared about it.)

…when do I get my invite so I can come and offer cross stitch and overly specific knowledge about the science behind glass structure?

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:55:14pm

Resist the Idolater Party

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:57:37pm

I just wanted to post this because, to the best of my knowledge, this is the first time a Trump supporter on Twitter has admitted they were wrong.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 8:58:28pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still thinking it will be Alan West

That, or Sister Sarah with her er, PTSD son.

As you know, he drove people around in Iraq. Zero combat.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:00:52pm

re: #10 Anymouse

Donald Trump doesn’t care about any of this, and neither do the craven Republicans that supported him, and those that accuse us of “supporting terrorism” for supporting the Khan family against Mr. Trump’s baseless attacks.

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:01:49pm

re: #35 Eric The Fruit Bat

The Japanese vinyl goes for big bucks.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:02:27pm

re: #43 William Lewis

Shrug. The first time I listened to an audio CD in German in 1985 I decided I wanted nothing to do with vinyl anymore. Nothing I’ve listened to since has changed my mind.

I hear ya-my entire CD collection is ripped to FLAC for local streaming, and I have Amazon Prime Music Unlimited. But some recordings will never have a CD re-issue due to various reasons (recording rights, lost/damaged master tapes, etc.) that make vinyl still palatable-especially at used record stores. You may never know what you can find.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:02:48pm

re: #43 William Lewis

Shrug. The first time I listened to an audio CD in German in 1985 I decided I wanted nothing to do with vinyl anymore. Nothing I’ve listened to since has changed my mind.

I’m convinced the “richer, warmer” sound of vinyl recordings is all in audiophiles’ heads — confirmation bias. A digital recording with a high bit sample rate would be indistinguishable from a high-quality recording from a squeaky clean, static-free, virgin LP. All this BS about vinyl being better is just a way for audiophiles with more money than sense to justify spending thousands of dollars on turntables and amps so they can impress everyone else with their expensive equipment.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:03:32pm
“I voted for Trump,” Neil Yonts, who was a coal miner in Kentucky for 35 years, told CNN’s Miguel Marquez. But, he added, he felt it “may be a mistake” after being diagnosed with black lung disease and learning about the Obamacare protections, which may soon disappear. “When they eliminate the Obamacare they may just eliminate all the black lung program,” he said. “It may all be gone. Don’t matter how many years you got.”
deathandtaxesmag.com

In January of 2015, Trump said he wanted “to try and help” lower income people get health care, even if it cost him the GOP nomination — signaling a core difference with the GOP on this moral imperative. During the primaries, Trump pointedly told fellow Republicans he would not allow people to “die on the street,” telegraphing that core difference once again. Trump also repeatedly vowed not to touch Medicare, explicitly holding this up as proof he is not ideologically aligned with Paul Ryan on the safety net. As David Leonhardt details, Trump repeatedly demonstrated an ideological willingness to embrace a role for government in expanding health care to, well, all Americans.
washingtonpost.com

“You knew I was a snake when you voted for me.”

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:05:13pm

re: #51 Eric The Fruit Bat

Jay-z owns my dang soul with Tidal. I think his business plan is to stream ALL the songs.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:05:28pm

re: #50 prairiefire

The Japanese vinyl goes for big bucks.

Sounds like I can score some pocket change with my Japanese pressing of Alan Parsons Project “I Robot”. Hafta check it out….

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Joe Bacon  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:05:46pm

re: #53 jaunte

“You knew I was a snake when you voted for me.”

Doesn’t matter because that fool will still vote Republican no matter what.

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:06:14pm

Finished assembling a resin 30K space marine Land Raider MkIIb tank tonight for my kid’s 9th Legion Space Wolves (this was a pretty damned advanced bit of modeling in many respects and he is not ready for this kind of model)

Looking good so far and ready to paint tomorrow. My kid has a very nasty 30K Age of Darkness army at this point and I can’t wait to try the Iron Warriors out against him…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:06:25pm

re: #52 wheat-dogg

Let’s not forget that the RIAA equalization curve imposed on vinyl leads to some rather interesting results….

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:06:53pm

re: #52 wheat-dogg

re: #52 wheat-dogg

I think it does sound warmer, always have.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:07:07pm

re: #40 Anymouse

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:07:54pm

re: #53 jaunte

“You knew I was a snake when you voted for me.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:08:36pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

But I really prefer Morse code and lower power.

“What this country needs is a good 5-watt amplifier.” —Paul W. Klipsch

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:09:11pm

re: #45 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…when do I get my invite so I can come and offer cross stitch and overly specific knowledge about the science behind glass structure?

You know you already have one — you were one of the first!

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:09:19pm

re: #44 retired cynic

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:09:50pm

re: #55 Eric The Fruit Bat

Maybe $35 bucks?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:10:05pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know you already have one — you were one of the first!

I just realized now I can contribute long distance running skills too. Hooray! I am more useful now!

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:10:36pm

re: #45 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…when do I get my invite so I can come and offer cross stitch and overly specific knowledge about the science behind glass structure?

We can look at polarized light slides of different tectosilicates!

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:11:54pm

re: #50 prairiefire

The Japanese vinyl goes for big bucks.

Granted, I was looking at Bowie stuff after he passed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:12:33pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

That, or Sister Sarah with her er, PTSD son.

As you know, he drove people around in Iraq. Zero combat.

And Track has that Christian PTSD training so he’s a counselor now (when he’s not beating the crap out of his pregnant girlfriends).

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:12:51pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Amory Blaine  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:13:45pm

re: #43 William Lewis

Shrug. The first time I listened to an audio CD in German in 1985 I decided I wanted nothing to do with vinyl anymore. Nothing I’ve listened to since has changed my mind.

re: #52 wheat-dogg

I’m convinced the “richer, warmer” sound of vinyl recordings is all in audiophiles’ heads — confirmation bias. A digital recording with a high bit sample rate would be indistinguishable from a high-quality recording from a squeaky clean, static-free, virgin LP. All this BS about vinyl being better is just a way for audiophiles with more money than sense to justify spending thousands of dollars on turntables and amps so they can impress everyone else with their expensive equipment.

How dare you.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:14:00pm

re: #52 wheat-dogg

Oh, I’m sure it is too. It’s similar to tube amps for guitar players and I’m guilty of that one myself :) with my hand wired 6 watt VHT.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:14:07pm

re: #65 prairiefire

Maybe $35 bucks?

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:16:09pm

re: #57 Scottishdragon

Finished assembling a resin 30K space marine Land Raider MkIIb tank tonight for my kid’s 9th Legion Space Wolves (this was a pretty damned advanced bit of modeling in many respects and he is not ready for this kind of model)

Looking good so far and ready to paint tomorrow. My kid has a very nasty 30K Age of Darkness army at this point and I can’t wait to try the Iron Warriors out against him…

I wonder if that My Little Pony Warhammer army is still available?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:16:57pm

re: #72 William Lewis

Oh, I’m sure it is too. It’s similar to tube amps for guitar players and I’m guilty of that one myself :) with my hand wired 6 watt VHT.

Now I can see why tube amps would sound different, because of the electronics involved. If you paired a CD or mp3 player with a good tube amp, the sound would probably be “warmer” and sound very similar to an analog recording.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:17:42pm

re: #71 Amory Blaine

How dare you.

The more correct technical term is blasphemer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:19:00pm

re: #66 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just realized now I can contribute long distance running skills too. Hooray! I am more useful now!

I was thinking exactly that. It would be a very useful skill.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:19:01pm
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whitebeach  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:19:23pm

re: #34 electrotek

Until vinyl comes back and replaces fucking laptops at the DJ booth and celebrates beatmatching over social media marketing prowess within dance music, I’ll take the vinyl “comeback” with a grain of salt.

I grew up in raves when vinyl was king, and turntablism was looked at with wonder, and seeing DJ’s perform “double-drops” to showcase their excellent ear in music selection, so it’s a sore subject for me.

This is America. Speak English, goddamit.

//

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:19:23pm

re: #74 William Lewis

I wonder if that My Little Pony Warhammer army is still available?

Like this?

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:19:45pm

re: #3 wheat-dogg

Hitting them in the pocketbook might make cops think twice.

Texas teen slammed to the ground in pool party video sues city, police for $5M
msn.com

She is the African-American teenager body slammed to the ground by a McKinney, TX, cop. The officer has since resigned his post.

The one that new NBC hire and current media darling, Megyn Kelly, said was “no saint.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:19:55pm

re: #75 wheat-dogg

Now I can see why tube amps would sound different, because of the electronics involved. If you paired a CD or mp3 player with a good tube amp, the sound would probably be “warmer” and sound very similar to an analog recording.

I have a well-manufactured in China Dared DV-6C-a hybrid 6-channel amp that uses 12AX7’s for preamplification and NXP Semi Class D silicon for power. Not a bad little beastie, but I’ll stick with my Yamaha ADVENTAGE RX-A2040 as it has a good phono section.

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:21:35pm

re: #73 Eric The Fruit Bat

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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:22:01pm

re: #76 Eric The Fruit Bat

The more correct technical term is blasphemer.

That said, I did not ditch my linear-tracking turntable. I stored it at one kid’s house, and told my vinyl-enamored kid to take it with him when he has the chance. If I had the space and had not made the decision to downsize my possessions prior to moving abroad, I’d probably still have those LPs.
I digitized most of them before selling/giving them away, because some of those LPs will never be reissued.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:24:01pm

OK, it’s time for lunch and those exams that are not going to grade themselves. Back later.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:24:04pm

re: #81 BeachDem

- exemplary model
- extraordinary teacher
- wonder worker or source of benevolent power
- intercessor
- a life often refusing material attachments or comforts
- possession of a special and revelatory relation to the holy.
en.wikipedia.org

That Megyn Kelly, she’s no saint.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:24:24pm

re: #70 Anymouse

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:26:56pm

More Ponyhammer silliness…

Warhammer: A New Kind of Space Marine [SFM]

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:29:03pm

re: #52 wheat-dogg

I’m convinced the “richer, warmer” sound of vinyl recordings is all in audiophiles’ heads — confirmation bias. A digital recording with a high bit sample rate would be indistinguishable from a high-quality recording from a squeaky clean, static-free, virgin LP. All this BS about vinyl being better is just a way for audiophiles with more money than sense to justify spending thousands of dollars on turntables and amps so they can impress everyone else with their expensive equipment.

The audio range of a CD is 20-20050 cycles, due to the sampling rate agreed on when the CD was invented. It was inherited from the sample rate of U-matic video tape.

Phonograph records vary by which company is manufacturing them, but the frequency response is about 7-25000 cycles.

That said, much audio today is digitised first before it is pressed into either a CD or a phonograph record.

More recently, cylinder records are making a comeback. Part of the problem with cylinder records is that by the time standards were agreed upon, phonograph records were standardised.

Cylinder disks do not suffer tracking errors of phonograph records.

hyperallergic.com (talks about the return of the cylinder record)

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:30:37pm

re: #89 Anymouse

What kind is Jack White pressing, I wonder.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:33:04pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Track has that Christian PTSD training so he’s a counselor now (when he’s not beating the crap out of his pregnant girlfriends).

Now ex-girlfriend who’s filed for sole custody and total control of visitation rights because she fears for the safety of herself and her baby. So that makes two of Track’s exes who don’t want him around their children. Nice family, those Palins.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:33:15pm
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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:35:47pm

Current seller of modern cylinder records:

phonographcylinders.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:37:10pm

If something happened to Trump and Pence became President would he get to choose who he wanted for VP?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:40:23pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

If something happened to Trump and Pence became President would he get to choose who he wanted for VP?

Pretty sure that’s what Nixon did to replace Agnew with Ford.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:42:17pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

If something happened to Trump and Pence became President would he get to choose who he wanted for VP?

Yes. XXV Amendment, must be approved by both houses of Congress. (See Vice-President Ford.)

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whitebeach  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:43:48pm

A year or so ago, I gave my few remaining vinyls to my brother’s stepson, who’s a sound engineer and craved them with a fierce longing. They included an original Sergeant Pepper, a Stone’s Flowers, a Dylan Freewheelin, a Buffalo Springfield and others of like vintage and terroir. I warned him that these had played while bikers were having fights around the turntable back in the day, while approximately 25,000 stoners had scratched them while searching for a favorite track, and while people like me had spilled countless gallons of booze on them. He didn’t care, he wanted them with all his heart, because he claimed there was nothing like that vinyl sound. I haven’t heard a single word about those albums from him since.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:47:06pm

A sound engineer offers his opinions about vinyl and CD sound.
oregonlive.com

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Amory Blaine  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:47:22pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:49:13pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was thinking exactly that. It would be a very useful skill.

Well, I do spend three days a week running for a township in the post-zombie apocalypse, so I should know that.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:49:25pm

re: #99 Amory Blaine

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I have always LOVED that song. Thanks.

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Scottishdragon  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:51:49pm

Off to bed….

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whitebeach  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:51:53pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pretty sure that’s what Nixon did to replace Agnew with Ford.

Remember that ancient SNL skit?

Ford: (Mumbles something inaudible.)

Nixon: Pardon me?

Ford: Sure.

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:52:14pm

re: #99 Amory Blaine

Ooohhhh, play Baker Street!

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Amory Blaine  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:54:40pm
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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:55:27pm

re: #105 Amory Blaine

Thanks!

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 9:58:19pm

I often profess my preference for all things analog when it comes to measurements. However, I don’t really feel that strongly about vinyl records. I guess maybe one of the things going for vinyl may be some versions of songs that may not have been available in digital format. By now you can find just about everything on youtube. I have about 300 vinyl records that I haven’t looked at in years. The only thing I can think of that I would like to find is a Deep Purple concert album, and really only the part that has Ritchie Blackmore fooling around.Other than that I can’t think of anything from those albums that I haven’t since bought on iTunes or CD.
When it comes to sound quality, I really wonder about the state of the art. Often people listen to music on earbuds or PC speakers. I’m one of them. My best audio system is in my car. Finally, most music isn’t recorded to create a sonic masterpiece. Those days are long gone I think.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:01:49pm

In honour of the snow and very cold temperatures here, my wife just made poutine. Yum. Time to eat, then bed I suppose … night, y’all.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:02:05pm

re: #107 SteveMcG RN

How dare you.

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:02:37pm

Chuck Schumer on Trump: ‘I think we can really nail him’ | Rachel Maddow

I’ve been pretty rough on Schumer, especially on his stance when the Iran deal came down the pipe. But he sounds solid in this interview and I’m eager to see what he does.

#NoMansPutz :)

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:03:24pm

I remember being zonked out when I realized I was riding down Baker Street, wish he could have made more stuff, rip.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:04:12pm

re: #110 Alyosha

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I’ve been pretty rough on Schumer, especially on his stance when the Iran deal came down the pipe. But he sounds solid in this interview and I’m eager to see what he does.

#NoMansPutz :)

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:05:34pm

re: #109 Amory Blaine

You know one of the glaring weaknesses of turntables and tape decks was the simple act of maintaining 33 1/3 RPM or however many feet per second across the heads. I found them notoriously erratic. When that 3:05 song comes in at 2:48, your sound experience is gone right off the bat.

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:06:51pm

re: #110 Alyosha

Your going to have to go back to your Eagle ripping the mallard apart avatar. The Eagle was picked because it is so ferocious. Our bedraggled and flea bitten warriors wanted to be sure our fortitude was represented.

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:06:54pm

re: #112 Anymouse

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:08:18pm

re: #114 prairiefire

Your going to have to go back to your Eagle ripping the mallard apart avatar. The Eagle was picked because it is so ferocious. Our bedraggled and flea bitten warriors wanted to be sure our fortitude was represented.

You remembered little ol’ me? *blushes*

I’ll see if I can find it, otherwise it’s good seeing you around again :D

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:08:45pm

Wonkette weighs in on today’s wingnut conspiracy:

The 1988 science-fiction film They Live.

And then there’s this relatively new idea, that John Carpenter’s 1988 science fiction/horror film They Live is actually an allegory about how brave Aryans, enslaved by the International Jewish Conspiracy, can free their minds and fight the power! We’d never heard that one until Carpenter Tweeted about it Wednesday.

More at Wonkette: wonkette.com

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prairiefire  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:10:00pm

re: #116 Alyosha

You as well. Stay tuned, things are going to get really interesting! Night, lizards.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:10:07pm

Indivisible Doc.

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:15:56pm

re: #114 prairiefire

As requested!

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:17:02pm

re: #119 Dave In Austin

Indivisible Doc.

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That’s just the cutest thing in the world right now. What fucking Congressman sitting in his safe seat is going to listen to you? The target audience is not Congress, it’s the constituents. Make the constituents listen, and the Congressmen will follow.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:18:12pm

re: #119 Dave In Austin

I posted this in the last thread. Good read.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:18:12pm

re: #72 William Lewis

Oh, I’m sure it is too. It’s similar to tube amps for guitar players and I’m guilty of that one myself :) with my hand wired 6 watt VHT.

Fact is, there’s absolutely no doubt that tube amps sound better for electric guitars. Vinyl records vs. CD is a much iffier comparison - I’m not sure vinyl’s really better, although it is a very different way of producing the audio. But I spent many years working on guitar sounds, and it’s no myth that tube amps are better.

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whitebeach  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:19:13pm

re: #107 SteveMcG RN

The only thing I can think of that I would like to find is a Deep Purple concert album, and really only the part that has Ritchie Blackmore fooling around.

I hope I’m not boring everybody with old war stories, but back in the Paleolithic I was doing some trash acid with an old buddy who was on leave from duty in the Air Force, which he had joined to avoid being a grunt in Vietnam, and we were listening to Deep Purple. About the third time through the album I finally found enough brain cells to ask him what his job was in the AF. He told me he was in North Dakota in a Minuteman missile silo. He said it was really cool, because his duty-mate was an acidhead like him, and they liked to groove on it down there. He said that this was the deal where each of them had a key, and if they both turned theirs together, they could launch the nuke. I’ve tried to forget this conversation, whether true or not, many times, but sadly without success.

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Anymouse  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:19:37pm

Talladega College rethinking whether it will march in the Inaugural Parade after an outcry of alumni:

ajc.com

There are only two colleges signed up for the parade.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:23:34pm

re: #124 whitebeach

I don’t think I would have believed him in the first place. To start out, they would need more people to help them do it on their own. For example, somebody would have to open the silo door. That conspiracy of two quickly turns into a conspiracy of many.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:23:46pm

re: #121 SteveMcG RN

Did you even read it?
Because by reading your comment, it appears you didnt notice it said you need very few constituents to sway your MoC.
Where Do you live?

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:27:51pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

I want to believe that but I often doubt it due to the hearing damage I have courtesy of Uncle Sam. I do know I like that tube amp’s sound better than the solid state one it replaced. It is amusing to me what a 5881, a 5751 in v1 and a 12ax7 in v2 is able to do to even my little bit of strumming.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:28:23pm

re: #127 VegasGolfer

No, I’m not going to read it. I caught most of the interview on Maddow. Even though the numbers you need look small, you need to make a big dent in somebody’s world view to convince them to turn from red to blue. Further, while on the subject of numbers, there isn’t a whole hell of lot of polling for Rep races. Combine that with the fact that the people you’re counting on don’t actually show up when you need them, you really have to reach more people than you think.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:28:59pm

re: #127 VegasGolfer

Oh yeah, Philadelphia.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:30:06pm

re: #105 Amory Blaine

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Thank YOU

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VegasGolfer  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:30:39pm

re: #129 SteveMcG RN

Ok. Fine.

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whitebeach  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:34:39pm

re: #126 SteveMcG RN

I don’t think I would have believed him in the first place. To start out, they would need more people to help them do it on their own. For example, somebody would have to open the silo door. That conspiracy of two quickly turns into a conspiracy of many.

You’re probably right. OTOH, I know this guy was an acidhead because I was right there dropping it with him, and in 1970 I had zero reason to doubt that his duty pal was another, since there were tons of us. So however many people it actually takes to get a nuke on its way, the idea that two of them were right there in the same silo was and is more than enough for me. YMMV.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:36:24pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:36:45pm

re: #119 Dave In Austin

Indivisible Doc.

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Printing out tomorrow.

Reading through as much as I did. This will work if we who resist do it.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:39:52pm

re: #121 SteveMcG RN

That’s just the cutest thing in the world right now. What fucking Congressman sitting in his safe seat is going to listen to you? The target audience is not Congress, it’s the constituents. Make the constituents listen, and the Congressmen will follow.

Regardless Steve, I feel the need to do my part and have sent it to those I know who are concerned. I’ll make the calls regardless of the redder than red Pols that represent my district and state (TX). What’s to lose.

When I sobered up a long time ago, my AA sponsor told me “Nothing changes if nothing changes…”. This shit that’s going on is bad, as bad as I have seen in my 62 yrs and I’m not going to sit on my hands anymore.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:41:56pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

I guess that’s where the blue checkmark comes in handy. I’ll keep an eye out.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:46:16pm

What an unoriginal fuckhead.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:47:23pm

re: #119 Dave In Austin

OK, I started reading. Got through about half of it. I’m still not impressed. Now it’s my conservative nature to second guess I think, I guess look at them with a critical eye. Some people want to take the manuscript and run with it, but I don’t work that way. I ask if the arguments make sense, and so far, the answer is no. For example, the authors base a lot of their analysis on the tea party movement. That would be great if they got it right. Half of the success of the tea party movement was due to the fact that the Democrats sat home on their asses in 2010. That’s an important detail and somebody trying to craft a comprehensive campaign plan who overlooks that probably has to start over. So, yeah, I’m sticking with my argument that the writers are trivializing the extent of what needs to be accomplished.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:52:53pm

re: #136 Dave In Austin

Regardless Steve, I feel the need to do my part and have sent it to those I know who are concerned. I’ll make the calls regardless of the redder than red Pols that represent my district and state (TX). What’s to lose.

When I sobered up a long time ago, my AA sponsor told me “Nothing changes if nothing changes…”. This shit that’s going on is bad, as bad as I have seen in my 62 yrs and I’m not going to sit on my hands anymore.

“If you always do what you’ve always done, you always get what you’ve always gotten.”

(often attributed to Henry Ford or Tony Robbins, but earliest attribution is to Jessie Potter.)

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:59:23pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

re: #138 teleskiguy

I did the same. What a douche knuckle…..

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:59:39pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 10:59:39pm

To follow up, I guess the way I roll is different. While the writers and readers are cheering themselves on and reinforcing their own narrative, I try to find the flaws. The fact that I’m a dickhead does not take away the fact that there are flaws in the analysis. A year ago I was a dickhead when I argued that Hilary Clinton was going to come from ahead to lose the election and garnered plenty of ire and profanity from the community. Well, guess what? While everybody was patting themselves on the back and making plans for the inauguration, everything I said would happen happened. Nobody on the Democratic side stopped to consider until it was too late that there was more to winning the election that winning the most votes. It’s great that these people tried to come up with a plan, but that plan isn’t ready for prime time. Keep this in mind that people need a dick in their life. Maybe that came out wrong. Make that a jerkoff. Maybe an assole. But somebody has to play devil’s advocate and challenge whatever it is that you may be working. No matter who you are, are how arrogant you are, there’s always something you missed.

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:02:32pm

re: #143 SteveMcG RN

Yeah, let’s wait until we’ve perfected the art of unified civil resistance.

These things are done by degrees.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:04:45pm

re: #143 SteveMcG RN

Thanks for the advice, asshole. I’m glad that you’re glad that you were right.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:09:15pm

re: #143 SteveMcG RN

Or, we can rely on focus groups that aren’t focus groups.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:11:13pm

re: #125 Anymouse

Sigh…I knew I shouldn’t have read the comments on that.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:16:21pm

re: #144 Alyosha

Granted, but this is amateurish. The premises they based their strategy on are flawed. Sometime tomorrow I will reread it, but I was pretty certain about their analysis of the success of the tea party.
By the way, what you presented: “Yeah, let’s wait until we’ve perfected the art of unified civil resistance.

These things are done by degrees.” is not an argument. That’s exactly the line of thinking that got Donald Trump elected. When I made my case about Clinton, not a single commenter actually tried to make a argument (premise and conclusion). All I got was “troll”, “bullshit”, a lot of “fuck”s, but nobody actually disputed the analysis. The community here (and by extension in general) just assumed the case against Clinton was nonsensical and that of course Trump won’t be President.
I am well aware that you have to start somewhere, but if you’re going to make an effort to craft a 26 page document and make a major media push, shouldn’t you make more of an effort to get it right? If I were on the other side politically, I would be more than content to let them huff and puff and miss their mark.
That’s the thing, I rarely see anybody try to look at things from a different perspective.

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:18:30pm

re: #148 SteveMcG RN

Okay, I’ll bite; what do you recommend?

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:20:10pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

Thanks for the advice, asshole. I’m glad that you’re glad that you were right.

You see, this is part of the problem. You saw what i wrote and think I’m sitting here patting myself on the back. We’ve spoken before, often enough that you know I have never said a kind word about any Republican (Except maybe Arlen Spector and Thatcher Longstreth, and maybe George H. - and pre 2000 John McCain). When we had that row last year I said repeatedly how important it was for her to win. I said it was her job to win. So what gives you the right to mischaracterize everything I stand for and tell somebody who doesn’t know me that I’m glad Clinton lost?

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:22:24pm

re: #149 Alyosha

I’ll also add that if you’re truly interested in perfecting the art of resistance that you also contact Indivisible.

PS try not to be condescending.

BTW, feel free to relitigate Clinton’s failed bid. I wanna know how deep this supposed rabbit hole goes.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:26:13pm

re: #150 SteveMcG RN

So what gives you the right to mischaracterize everything I stand for and tell somebody who doesn’t know me that I’m glad Clinton lost?

Whatever, dude. I don’t care what you think about the election, that’s your business. You’re the one who’s telling all of us “I WAS RIGHT, NEE-NER-NEE-NER-NEE-NER!” and letting us know what a bunch of bubble inhabitants that we are. You would have been more honest if you just came right out and said what a bunch of dumb fucks we are.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:26:35pm

re: #149 Alyosha

I agree that the target of any campaign should be the constituents. If you’re going to try to use the tea party for comparison it is also worth using the Obama campaign as well. I argued repeatedly that Clinton was no Barack Obama (not as insult, he was truly special), but he motivated the Democrats to vote. In 2010, the Democratic Party bailed on him, there was little enthusiasm, and the Republicans ran wild. In 2016, key Democratic strongholds in battleground states underperformed (like the Philadelphia suburbs that turned out strongly for Obama)
My initial plan would be to focus on the enthusiasm gap.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:28:07pm

I stumbled upon “Last Days at the Fillmore - Full Documentary”. In addition to my forgotten crush on Lydia Pense of Cold Blood, seeing old bands like Elvin Bishop and Hot Tuna bring back memories.

Last Days at the Fillmore - Full Documentary - (Official)

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:29:01pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

You really need to be told? Still can’t help but notice, in spite of the fact that you are an educated man, (in history, no less), that you cannot fabricate an argument. Is that laziness, incompetence, or anger?

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:33:48pm

re: #153 SteveMcG RN

I agree that the target of any campaign should be the constituents. If you’re going to try to use the tea party for comparison it is also worth using the Obama campaign as well. I argued repeatedly that Clinton was no Barack Obama (not as insult, he was truly special), but he motivated the Democrats to vote. In 2010, the Democratic Party bailed on him, there was little enthusiasm, and the Republicans ran wild. In 2016, key Democratic strongholds in battleground states underperformed (like the Philadelphia suburbs that turned out strongly for Obama)
My initial plan would be to focus on the enthusiasm gap.

How does something like voter suppression feature in your analysis?

Words like ‘voter enthusiasm’ are nebulous at best.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:34:03pm

re: #155 SteveMcG RN

Why should I come up with a coherent argument with someone who clearly thinks I’m a dumbass? There’s no good faith involved, just condescension and stupid dude one-upmanship. Hey, be glad you’re better than all of us. Maybe you could teach us the ways of your superiority.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:36:46pm

re: #151 Alyosha

BTW I’m still not in the mood. I love Keith Olberman but I I’m not in the mood to hear from him how screwed up this is right now. This site has some good research tools, and If it weren’t 2 frickin thirty on the east coast I would point you to the discussion (as it were). Basically my argument was that people weren’t taking seriously the possibility that Trump could win. In a way I can’t blame them (I mean Jesus freakin Christ), but I think complacency played a yuge (sorry) part in this catastrophe.

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freetoken  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:43:25pm

Been diddling with browsers and Flash plugin releases, trying to get video at some sites to play smoothly, and concluded that Flash is too bad to expect much anymore, as far as usefulness on my old Mac. The HTML5 or customer players found on some sites work fine… but there are services out there that still demand Flash.

Anyway, in making sure I have the latest browsers tried Opera again. It does have some performance qualities that I like, though the text size on some websites I can’t quite get right. Some sites have text too large when I up the minimum font size, and others too small.

Which gets me to one of my major gripes with our internet age today - web designers who think grey text on a colored background is a good idea. Perverse. Glad that LGF still has black text for the body of pages and comments.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:44:23pm

re: #156 Alyosha

How does something like voter suppression feature in your analysis?

Words like ‘voter enthusiasm’ are nebulous at best.

Nebulous but real. I just reminded you that key areas of battleground states didn’t turn out (that’s where voter enthusiasm comes in play) Like it or not, voter suppression isn’t going away (it will probably get worse), so we actually need more voters than the drafters of the plan think. In other words, we have to reach even more voters than the plan accounts for.
So while the ski bum in CO tries to come up with more insults, I am more than willing to discuss actual policies. And the point of the story was not to rub anybody’s nose in the ground. God knows we’ll be getting that for the next four years. The point is that self criticism is vital. Without it you risk getting complacent.
Unfortunately, it really is getting late. I still gotta do some laundry before I get my two and a half hours of sleep.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:45:29pm

re: #159 freetoken

Flash needs to die already.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:45:48pm

Look, Upchuck has a new fan:

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:46:21pm

re: #158 SteveMcG RN

BTW I’m still not in the mood. I love Keith Olberman but I I’m not in the mood to hear from him how screwed up this is right now. This site has some good research tools, and If it weren’t 2 frickin thirty on the east coast I would point you to the discussion (as it were). Basically my argument was that people weren’t taking seriously the possibility that Trump could win. In a way I can’t blame them (I mean Jesus freakin Christ), but I think complacency played a yuge (sorry) part in this catastrophe.

Adversity plays an important part in organised civil resistance. Maybe you weren’t shitting all over the Indivisible movement, such as it is. It certainly came across as such.
Contacting MoC, whether they’re receptive or not, is a good first step.
In many cases it is the step of last resort given the imminence of drastic changes.
If the Ethics Committee was saved due to this, I’d say it was pretty goddamned significant.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:46:37pm

re: #160 SteveMcG RN

So while the ski bum in CO

Nice subtweet.

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freetoken  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:46:48pm

As for my Mac, I went straight from Snow Leopard to the latest El Capitan. Quite the jump. El Capitan does have some niceties… but I don’t like the Finder. The Finder has been a never ending weakness in OSX, being it tried to do this and that and a bucket of things, but hobbled by a lot of awkwardness.

Which gets me to the El Capitan finder and those little colored dots as tags. Why? Why not keep the whole name colored? And why can’t the Finder remember my choice of column widths?

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:47:29pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

Couldn’t resist :)

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:50:42pm

It’s probably just me, but the LGF night shift is getting rather tedious.

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:50:55pm

re: #160 SteveMcG RN

Nebulous but real. I just reminded you that key areas of battleground states didn’t turn out (that’s where voter enthusiasm comes in play) Like it or not, voter suppression isn’t going away (it will probably get worse), so we actually need more voters than the drafters of the plan think. In other words, we have to reach even more voters than the plan accounts for.
So while the ski bum in CO tries to come up with more insults, I am more than willing to discuss actual policies. And the point of the story was not to rub anybody’s nose in the ground. God knows we’ll be getting that for the next four years. The point is that self criticism is vital. Without it you risk getting complacent.
Unfortunately, it really is getting late. I still gotta do some laundry before I get my two and a half hours of sleep.

I’m hearing alot of preamble, but no real criticism or recommendation. I know it’s late, but so far all you’ve given us is griping about the inability of the Democrats to foresee a defeat.
No solutions.
Nothing.
Just high-horsery.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:54:22pm

re: #162 Ace-o-aces

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:54:50pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

Tedium can be good. Not everything has to be high-octane. I get Socratic after a few ports, and any disagreement can be enjoyable.

I also have never thrown myself off a mountain into glittering crystals of coldness strictly for fun so YMMV :)

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:55:42pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

I bust balls. It’s what I do. Last year I felt people were taking things for granted about the election and I made the case for it. You disagreed, but tough, balls needed to be broken. I take no joy in being right about Clinton/Trump (others, yeah maybe:) but if I’m going to be a ball buster, I really want to be wearing a steel toed shoe and stomp as hard as I can, because if you’re gonna do something you might as well give it your best right?
By comparison, that’s my perspective about the Indivisible plan. It’s based on flawed logic. I’m calling them out on it. Not that complicated.

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Alyosha  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:57:01pm

re: #171 SteveMcG RN

I bust balls. It’s what I do. Last year I felt people were taking things for granted about the election and I made the case for it. You disagreed, but tough, balls needed to be broken. I take no joy in being right about Clinton/Trump (others, yeah maybe:) but if I’m going to be a ball buster, I really want to be wearing a steel toed shoe and stomp as hard as I can, because if you’re gonna do something you might as well give it your best right?
By comparison, that’s my perspective about the Indivisible plan. It’s based on flawed logic. I’m calling them out on it. Not that complicated.

WHAT ‘FLAWED LOGIC’? At least define your terms!

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Apocalypse  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:58:02pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

And said account only follows one account. Safe to say same person runs both, right?

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2017 • 11:59:46pm

re: #173 Apocalypse

And said account only follows one account. Safe to say same person runs both, right?

Absolutely. That scumbag has been at this shit for years. They’re not right in the head.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:02:43am

re: #168 Alyosha

I’m hearing alot of preamble, but no real criticism or recommendation. I know it’s late, but so far all you’ve given us is griping about the inability of the Democrats to foresee a defeat.
No solutions.
Nothing.
Just high-horsery.

No real criticism or recommendation??? From my #139, what part of “For example, the authors base a lot of their analysis on the tea party movement. That would be great if they got it right. Half of the success of the tea party movement was due to the fact that the Democrats sat home on their asses in 2010. That’s an important detail and somebody trying to craft a comprehensive campaign plan who overlooks that probably has to start over” isn’t a criticism?

From my #153, what part of “I agree that the target of any campaign should be the constituents. If you’re going to try to use the tea party for comparison it is also worth using the Obama campaign as well. I argued repeatedly that Clinton was no Barack Obama (not as insult, he was truly special), but he motivated the Democrats to vote. In 2010, the Democratic Party bailed on him, there was little enthusiasm, and the Republicans ran wild. In 2016, key Democratic strongholds in battleground states underperformed (like the Philadelphia suburbs that turned out strongly for Obama)
My initial plan would be to focus on the enthusiasm gap.” isn’t a recommendation?

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Apocalypse  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:05:17am

re: #174 teleskiguy

Stalker I assume. Links to Diary is the red flag.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:06:14am

re: #172 Alyosha

The FLAWED LOGIC is the flawed premise that the rise of the tea party was due only to their superior organization and motivation. I argued that they needed help from apathetic Democratic voters. The FLAWED LOGIC is their flawed analysis that small numbers of voters in key areas will be sufficient to stem the Republican mudslide. I argue that due to voter suppression and lousy turnout, we need more voters than they think.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:08:18am

re: #176 Apocalypse

Stalker I assume. Links to Diary is the red flag.

You assumed right. Those fuckers at Diary are twisted obsessed fucks. Psychotic shit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:13:58am

re: #165 freetoken

As for my Mac, I went straight from Snow Leopard to the latest El Capitan. Quite the jump. El Capitan does have some niceties… but I don’t like the Finder. The Finder has been a never ending weakness in OSX, being it tried to do this and that and a bucket of things, but hobbled by a lot of awkwardness.

Which gets me to the El Capitan finder and those little colored dots as tags. Why? Why not keep the whole name colored? And why can’t the Finder remember my choice of column widths?

Probably because the background color is changeable, meaning it might be easy to lose say an orange tagged file name against a sunset background image. I never use tags anyway.

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:17:49am

re: #175 SteveMcG RN

They’re not really holistic approaches, though.

You target the inability of the Democratic Party to supply an electoral turnout in off-year elections.
Yes, you’re describing what seems to be a perennial problem. The solution: ‘enthusiasm’.

We know. The people who excite independent non-Dems are people like Sanders. He got enthusiasm, but he drew water from the uncommitted fringe. If anything, the Democrats made the mistake of allowing Sanders to run as one of them at all.

They were also malignant narcissists who likely voted to some degree against Clinton just to savour the sweet nullification of her ungodly ambitions. It’s why the far left ought to be left to their principled non-participation in peace. Fuck ‘em. Leave them to their alienation.

You also didn’t address the massive voter suppression… so, till then.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:19:07am

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Got me to reminisce:

gocomics.com

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:23:38am

re: #177 SteveMcG RN

The FLAWED LOGIC is the flawed premise that the rise of the tea party was due only to their superior organization and motivation. I argued that they needed help from apathetic Democratic voters. The FLAWED LOGIC is their flawed analysis that small numbers of voters in key areas will be sufficient to stem the Republican mudslide. I argue that due to voter suppression and lousy turnout, we need more voters than they think.

Okay, then. What do you propose? If we’re fighting merely to keep the basic institutions that ensure democracy afloat, how do you boost voter turnout? Remembering that the Democrats lean heavily on likely voters like the black community. Who are increasingly disenfranchised.

Crucifying the rich?
Make a pro-GOP viral video for a voter ID?

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:26:42am

re: #180 Alyosha

There are a couple of problems with your post. First, you were the one who argued that the process is implemented by degree, yet you now write that I lack a holistic approach. Then you cite me for targeting the Dems weak turnout in an off yer election. Problem with that is that off year elections are damn important, and I also cited weak performance in an on-year (?) election.
As far as voter suppression, Let’s see you address it. You may not realize it, but I did. I even cited it when I made my arguments because the democrats need more votes than ever because of voter suppression. The Indivisible planners seem to understate it, not me.
Also, the Democrats had no choice but to let Sanders run. If you can get enough names on the petitions, you can get on the ballot. Neither Party can’t stop you from running.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:30:15am

Troll-lol-lol.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:33:13am

re: #182 Alyosha

Okay, then. What do you propose? If we’re fighting merely to keep the basic institutions that ensure democracy afloat, how do you boost voter turnout? Remembering that the Democrats lean heavily on likely voters like the black community. Who are increasingly disenfranchised.

Crucifying the rich?
Make a pro-GOP viral video for a voter ID?

If I knew how to get democrats off their asses, I would have been shouting it from the rooftops all summer long. Barack Obama knew how to do it, he got the job done. The alternative is stifling Republican turnout (which is wrong), or converting them to Democrats. That shouldn’t be so hard (heck, millions voted to shoot themselves in the foot). Nationally, Democratic reps got more votes than Republican reps, and obviously Clinton beat Trump by a couple million. The problem is that Clinton wasn’t even close to winning the election. She lost almost every swing state. We know what we gotta do, we gotta figure out how.

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:36:39am

re: #183 SteveMcG RN

There are a couple of problems with your post. First, you were the one who argued that the process is implemented by degree, yet you now write that I lack a holistic approach. Then you cite me for targeting the Dems weak turnout in an off yer election. Problem with that is that off year elections are damn important, and I also cited weak performance in an on-year (?) election.
As far as voter suppression, Let’s see you address it. You may not realize it, but I did. I even cited it when I made my arguments because the democrats need more votes than ever because of voter suppression. The Indivisible planners seem to understate it, not me.
Also, the Democrats had no choice but to let Sanders run. If you can get enough names on the petitions, you can get on the ballot. Neither Party can’t stop you from running.

Maybe the weakness of my argument then, is that I don’t want the Democratic Party to make a case that panders to the white working class. They’re a fairly reliable voting bloc and they’re also changeable assholes.

Fuck ‘em.

Any solution that appeals to Trump voters might lose elections, but until voter suppression is cleared up they’re Republicans.
*shrug*

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:37:33am

re: #185 SteveMcG RN

Stupid white people.

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:44:03am

Okay, so Dems need to win elections in spite of voter suppression of minorities…
So, we should appeal to the flakiest of demographics; people who have the inside track even if they don’t know it; who vote on a whim because their necks aren’t on the chopping block in either event.

Nope.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:44:27am

re: #167 teleskiguy

It’s probably just me, but the LGF night shift is getting rather tedious.

I’ve been sitting out with the better lighting in the living room away from the computer the past few nights, working on stitching and streaming hockey to the big TV. Probably better for my sanity, given what I’ve been seeing in my glances by.

Doing one over one requires good lighting.

Instagram

Despite a visit from the frog, the skin has been started and is moving along, if slowly. It always looks so weird until you add the backstitching, which is a long way off still. #crossstitch #crossstitching #crossstitchersofinstagram #mirabilia #thegardenparty

(For the record, I think you can challenge what people think without being an asshole about it. I choose to reduce the number of assholes in my life to the minimum required number.)

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:46:10am

re: #186 Alyosha

Maybe the weakness of my argument then, is that I don’t want the Democratic Party to make a case that panders to the white working class. They’re a fairly reliable voting bloc and they’re also changeable assholes.

Fuck ‘em.

Any solution that appeals to Trump voters might lose elections, but until voter suppression is cleared up they’re Republicans.
*shrug*

Are you really thinking some sort of voter suppression fairy is going to show up and make the Jim Crow laws go away? The only way to repeal them is the courts (good luck with that now) or by winning elections.
The Democratic Party has always made a case that panders to WWC voters. The fact that they are changeable assholes is actually a good thing. It means they can come back. The fact that anybody is a changeable asshole is a good thing. It means that they can grow up. (or they could go the other way too, but i’m an optimist)

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:46:11am
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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:47:12am

re: #186 Alyosha

Maybe the weakness of my argument then, is that I don’t want the Democratic Party to make a case that panders to the white working class. They’re a fairly reliable voting bloc and they’re also changeable assholes.

Fuck ‘em.

Any solution that appeals to Trump voters might lose elections, but until voter suppression is cleared up they’re Republicans.
*shrug*

I’m the white working class. Thanks. High school education. Enlisted military career. The very definition of white working class.

You don’t want the Democratic Party to address the issues of millions of active duty and veteran enlisted? They’re the working class, and a whole bunch of them are white. Gold Star Families? Throw in a few million more voters. &c &c.

The Democratic Party needs to appeal to the working class, regardless of whether white, brown, black, or any other colour. The Republican platform sure ain’t it.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:47:33am

re: #187 Alyosha

I agree. People have been doing stupid shit for millenia.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:48:50am

re: #188 Alyosha

Okay, so Dems need to win elections in spite of voter suppression of minorities…
So, we should appeal to the flakiest of demographics; people who have the inside track even if they don’t know it; who vote on a whim because their necks aren’t on the chopping block in either event.

Nope.

Huh?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:49:30am

Anyway, I have to run the 5 miles tomorrow morning that I didn’t run today because it was raining and wet and I’m a whiny wimp, so time for me to crawl into bed.

G’night Lizards.

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:52:34am

re: #192 Anymouse

I’m the white working class. Thanks. High school education. Enlisted military career. The very definition of white working class.

You don’t want the Democratic Party to address the issues of millions of active duty and veteran enlisted? They’re the working class, and a whole bunch of them are white. Gold Star Families? Throw in a few million more voters. &c &c.

The Democratic Party needs to appeal to the working class, regardless of whether white, brown, black, or any other colour. The Republican platform sure ain’t it.

No, I’m just saying that they ought not expect to be coddled.
Fact is, Clinton ran a campaign that appealed to the hopes of minorities that Obama’s legacy was in safe hands. Many whites chose to see that as a threat.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:53:44am

re: #196 Alyosha

Many whites didn’t

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:54:35am

re: #197 SteveMcG RN

Many whites didn’t

#NotAllWhites

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:57:04am

re: #198 Alyosha

I avoid Twitter, so I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

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William Lewis  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:57:44am

re: #197 SteveMcG RN

Many whites didn’t

Enough did in enough places to give us a minority president. Now we just pray that we have enough hearts turn around like little Schindlers since there are too many little Hitlers and never enough little Bonhoeffers to get the job done.

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:01:54am

re: #199 SteveMcG RN

I avoid Twitter, so I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

Only every single defensive tweet that tries to avoid the fact that, in spite of rampant racism, misogyny, incompetence and well, treason, within the Trump campaign, that whites broke for him.
But Chicago has a gun problem so ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:05:22am

re: #195 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I saw your Instagram picture of you in the black dress.

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:05:27am

Off-topic, therefore behind a hide button (fairly long and boring computer stuff - everything is standard but nothing works the same).

Some years ago, a Russian firm purchased LiveJournal, a San Francisco company that was one of the first blogging platforms on the Web. There was some rumbling, but as more companies started up blogging platforms (Blogger, Wordpress, &c), North Americans in particular started drifting away from LiveJournal.

It would appear that LiveJournal has chosen to shut down its San Francisco servers - ostensibly due to American law governing Internet companies. LiveJournal is now running through Russian servers, as posted by a computer geek there.

LiveJournal has become much more popular with Russian bloggers, and there is now rumour that they will shut down their American side entirely, as it is losing money and they don’t expect to recover that.

I ran a traceroute request from my computer to my LiveJournal blog and sure enough, the routing starts here, goes through my telephone company, then Quest, then hops the ocean and through a couple Russian servers before ending at LiveJournal.

As such, my wife and I are looking into moving our blog from LiveJournal to Wordpress. That turns out to be one first class pain in the ass, and we don’t have a whole lot of entries (it goes back to 2012 and isn’t even necessarily a weekly post kind of thing).

I went to the Dummies guys - the folk that started with Windows for Dummies and now have everything including Wicca for Dummies and Curling for Dummies, Dummies for Dummies and probably Vampire Slaying for Dummies.

They have a step-by-step guide for exporting blog posts from LiveJournal - the kicker is you can only go through one month at a time, each month manually exported into an XML file.

You can then either string along all the XML files into one slug to import with the LiveJournal tool in Wordpress, or you can export each month separately. If I tried to string them all together, I would foul it up, and it’s too late at night anyway for that.

I do have an alternative, which would be more tedious but I could probably do without too much help from the Dummies guys. As it turns out, when we started our blog I signed up my E-mail for the RSS feed.

Thus, I have every post saved in Outlook on my computer. An alternative would be to copy-and-paste each E-mail into Wordpress (setting the correct date). That would preserve all the links embedded in the original LiveJournal posts.

All this computing stuff makes my head hurt. My wife the librarian software engineer tried to (without the help of the Dummies book) figure out how to do this and she gave up in frustration.

I’ll be snowed in tomorrow, so that’s good enough.

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Donkey With No Name  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:05:35am

Sigh. Is it not possible to accept that a successful strategy for the Democrats may have multiple components? Even if the Indivisible suggestions don’t solve everything (they won’t), they’re not going to hurt.

Particularly in a place like Austin, where districts are carefully arranged to dilute us, making bad PR for the likes of Lamar Smith and Michael McCaul may be the main way we can help…

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Alyosha  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:08:58am

*puts a feather in cap*

I’ve acted ridiculously today.

Night all.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:10:04am

Ate lunch, marked one section of exams, found another review of vinyl vs. CD sound, am pointedly ignoring rehashing the last election yet again.

Anyway, this guy did a side-by-side test with circles and arrows and aerial photography and everything of analog and digital recordings, and concluded it all depends on the source material.

audioholics.com

As for my exams, this section of sophomores averaged 67% on their listening comprehension exam. There were two who scored in the mid-90s, including the guy who came to class maybe three times all term. Since participation counts, he’s not going to be too pleased with his semester mark, which will not be 96%.

Meanwhile, 4 of the 39 failed the exam with marks in the 40s, although I tried mightily to make it passable. They get to take it again early next term.

One more section to grade tomorrow, and I will be done marking exams! W00t!

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:16:01am

re: #201 Alyosha

Only every single defensive tweet that tries to avoid the fact that, in spite of rampant racism, misogyny, incompetence and well, treason, within the Trump campaign, that whites broke for him.
But Chicago has a gun problem so ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

I’ll note what Pew Research had to say:

However, although Trump fared little better among blacks and Hispanics than Romney did four years ago, Hillary Clinton did not run as strongly among these core Democratic groups as Obama did in 2012. Clinton held an 80-point advantage among blacks (88% to 8%) compared with Obama’s 87-point edge four years ago (93% to 6%). In 2008, Obama had a 91-point advantage among blacks.

There was also this further up the page:

White non-Hispanic voters preferred Trump over Clinton by 21 percentage points (58% to 37%), according to the exit poll conducted by Edison Research for the National Election Pool. Romney won whites by 20 percentage points in 2012 (59% to 39%).

I don’t see a whole lot of difference in the white vote. The bigger difference was in other groups.

That said, there is the issue of college education:

Trump’s margin among whites without a college degree is the largest among any candidate in exit polls since 1980. Two-thirds (67%) of non-college whites backed Trump, compared with just 28% who supported Clinton, resulting in a 39-point advantage for Trump among this group. In 2012 and 2008, non-college whites also preferred the Republican over the Democratic candidate but by less one-sided margins (61%-36% and 58%-40%, respectively).

Trump won whites with a college degree 49% to 45%. In 2012, Romney won college whites by a somewhat wider margin in 2012 (56%-42%). Trump’s advantage among this group is the same as John McCain’s margin in 2008 (51%-47%).

Due largely to the dramatic movement among whites with no college degree, the gap between college and non-college whites is wider in 2016 than in any past election dating to 1980.

Education level seems to have been a pretty big deal.

They have more at Pew, but it seems an over-simplification that “whites did it.”
pewresearch.org

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:18:10am

More:

Clinton received a lower share of the vote among young voters (ages 18-29) than Obama received in 2012 or 2008. Young adults preferred Clinton over Trump by a wide 55%-37% margin; by comparison, Obama had a 60%-36% advantage over Romney in 2012 and a 66%-32% advantage over McCain in 2008.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:21:53am

re: #203 Anymouse

Check this out. codex.wordpress.org

And this, too. premium.wpmudev.org

It looks like WP has an import function for LJ built in, but you need to create a WP blog first, either at wordpress.com or a self-hosted one. That way, you shouldn’t need to export to XML first.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:22:30am

re: #143 SteveMcG RN

A year ago I was a dickhead when I argued that Hilary Clinton was going to come from ahead to lose the election

I also thought Michael Moore was being a gadfly and attention whore when he predicted the same, but in retrospect, he was spot-on.

Hillary was a flawed candidate and it made her vulnerable, although I certainly supported her over Trump and even over Bernie.

There is no single cause, be it Democratic hubris, ratfucking Berniebots, FBI meddling or media complicity, that led to the debacle of one of the least qualified persons in history being made President with neither a majority or even a plurality of the popular vote, but somehow, in retrospect, it does seem almost inevitable.

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:23:46am

re: #209 wheat-dogg

Check this out. codex.wordpress.org

And this, too. premium.wpmudev.org

It looks like WP has an import function for LJ built in, but you need to create a WP blog first, either at wordpress.com or a self-hosted one. That way, you shouldn’t need to export to XML first.

WP does have an import function for LJ, and it does not work correctly (apparently LJ changed something some time ago and WP did not update to correct their import system for that - hence the Dummies guys work around for it.)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:27:38am

re: #211 Anymouse

WP does have an import function for LJ, and it does not work correctly (apparently LJ changed something some time ago and WP did not update to correct their import system for that - hence the Dummies guys work around for it.)

Probably the LJ API. You might try hunting for a WP plugin that can automate the process. Often plugin devs are more responsive to API changes than WP itself.

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:30:49am

re: #212 wheat-dogg

Probably the LJ API. You might try hunting for a WP plugin that can automate the process. Often plugin devs are more responsive to API changes than WP itself.

Well, I saved your links and I’ll have my wife check it out in the morning (she’s the computer expert, I just keep the coffee and chips flowing)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:33:03am

re: #213 Anymouse

Well, I saved your links and I’ll have my wife check it out in the morning (she’s the computer expert, I just keep the coffee and chips flowing)

Okey dokey.

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:34:01am

re: #214 wheat-dogg

Okey dokey.

Thanks, Wheat-Dogg. We’ll get it figured out; we’re not going to get out tomorrow anyway.

I’m off to bed … thank you all for your help and goodnight.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:34:30am

re: #191 Ace-o-aces

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So. Fucking. Stupid.

What is that all about anyway?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 1:38:09am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

What is that all about anyway?

There is some BS fake news story bouncing in the RWNJ echo chamber alleging BLM people kidnapped and tortured someone.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 2:32:54am

That was then:

This is now:

Trump is doing the same thing he did with Mexico’s president: bluster while in the USA about his stupid wall idea, then go to Mexico and be all polite and shit. Then, resume the stupid wall bluster.

You wait. A few days from now, Trump will be calling the UN a do-nothing club and a waste of money again.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 2:34:35am

Jean-Claude Van Damme’s best film is “Universal Soldier.”

This ends my random thought for the quarter.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2017 • 2:44:09am

This isn’t and won’t be good.

huffingtonpost.com

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 2:55:29am

re: #220 Dave In Austin

This isn’t and won’t be good.

huffingtonpost.com

Alt-right is using this crime as propaganda against BLM, but AFAIK there is no connection to BLM at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 3:18:24am

re: #221 wheat-dogg

Alt-right is using this crime as propaganda against BLM, but AFAIK there is no connection to BLM at all.

It is simply being used as justification to ignore or invalidate any claims that BLM makes about police abuse.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 5, 2017 • 3:32:32am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is simply being used as justification to ignore or invalidate any claims that BLM makes about police abuse.

But they’ve already been doing that for years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 3:55:16am

re: #223 Timothy Watson

But they’ve already been doing that for years.

Now they will use it to justify even more egregious abuse.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 5, 2017 • 4:05:53am

re: #192 Anymouse

The main problem with appealing to the white working class is that they have their TV’s fixed on Fox News 24 hours a day in a willing ideological shift these last 30-40 years. This has coincided with their shift away from traditional Protestant sects like Methodist and Lutheran towards Evangelical churches and Open Money-grabber stadium Prosperity preachers. And sadly I don’t see this changing anytime soon.

What’s worse is that the MSM is increasingly throwing in the towel at any sort of truly investigative reporting, principled journalistic practices, and instead offering jobs to truly and thoroughly ignorant hacks like Meygyn Kelley all for ratings. It is not Fox News that is being moderated, it is the rest of the MSM that is shifting more and more towards the cliff of American Right Wing nonsense. And they are dragging the white working class along for a ride that this country may not survive for long.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 4:07:40am

re: #225 Rocky-in-Connecticut

What’s worse is that the MSM is increasingly throwing in the towel at any sort of truly investigative reporting, principled journalistic practices, and instead offering jobs to truly and thoroughly ignorant hacks like Meygyn Kelley all for ratings. It is not Fox News that is being moderated, it is the rest of the MSM that is shifting more and more towards the cliff of American Right Wing nonsense. And they are dragging the white working class along for a ride that this country may not survive for long.

They get an unpaid intern to simply report on what is Trending on Twitter. People like Drudge and Breitbart figured out ages ago that all they have to do is get some sort of outrageous story out there and it will take on a life of its own.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 5, 2017 • 4:17:12am

Pretty much.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:10:05am

re: #223 Timothy Watson

But they’ve already been doing that for years.

Exactly. White people have been ignoring Black protesters since the Civil Rights era. If you don’t care about Black people being oppressed, you’ll find any excuse to do so. This kidnapping story is no different than White racists claiming that Dr. King was a Communist and other such nonsense from the 50s/60s.

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sagehen  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:16:21am

While we’re talking about Trump’s fanboy worship of Putin, and how close so many of his chosen advisors are so close to Putin, and Ivanka being so buddy-buddy with Putin’s girlfriend, and wanting to scale back the intelligence agencies and embassy security…

Have we included the puzzle piece that his chosen Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, is the sister of Eric Prince (owner of whatever-the-hell Blackwater changed its name to)?

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:25:38am

re: #160 SteveMcG RN

So while the ski bum in CO tries to come up with more insults, I am more than willing to discuss actual policies.

How about I help him come up with some, you smug, self-satisfied, preening, arrogant jackass?

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jeffreyw  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:27:19am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:27:22am

re: #228 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. White people have been ignoring Black protesters since the Civil Rights era. If you don’t care about Black people being oppressed, you’ll find any excuse to do so. This kidnapping story is no different than White racists claiming that Dr. King was a Communist and other such nonsense from the 50s/60s.

White people being oppressed and tortured for their beliefs! Get my smelling salts!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:29:04am

re: #230 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

How about I help him come up with some, you smug, self-satisfied, preening, arrogant jackass?

The thing I like about this site is the generally civil level of discourse. Please strive to keep it that way, and if you have personal comments to make, then please use the private comment option.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:31:20am

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:35:24am

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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“Use your phone for godly purposes”

**snort** **giggle**

Dying of laughter. Some people are just too much.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:36:03am

re: #235 Patricia Kayden

“Use your phone for godly purposes”

**snort** **giggle**

Dying of laughter. Some people are just too much.

“Rothschild” conspiracy triggered the block.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:40:59am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

“Rothschild” conspiracy triggered the block.

ahem…yes, of course, it should read (((Rothschild)))…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:41:24am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

“Rothschild” conspiracy triggered the block.

Wouldn’t be surprised if it is a Alt-right Neo-Nazi sockpuppet account.

But it could still be a ‘Bro. (“Deranged ‘bro” is redundant by now…)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:42:17am

re: #238 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Wouldn’t be surprised if it is a Alt-right Neo-Nazi sockpuppet account.

But it could still be a ‘Bro. (“Deranged ‘bro” is redundant by now…)

Bro’s don’t pay attention to the Rothschild conspiracy. That’s a Stormfront thing.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:42:27am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How about I just passive-aggressively include them in comments to a third party?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:44:39am

re: #240 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

How about I just passive-aggressively include them in comments to a third party?

please just keep it civil. that is one of the outstanding features of LGF

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:46:21am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

Bro’s don’t pay attention to the Rothschild conspiracy. That’s a Stormfront thing.

I have encountered people who are ostensibly total leftists but also quote from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion…that is the wonder of that la-la-land of the Internet out there, you can mix and match any CS or ideology that fits your personality (disorders)

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Weaselone  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:48:30am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is simply being used as justification to ignore or invalidate any claims that BLM makes about police abuse.

It goes beyond that. The stream of lies, fabrications and smears against BLM is being utilized to form an impression/gut reaction to the organization that will persist in the general public despite the repeated debunking of the claims. It’s not merely being used to discredit their efforts on police reform, but also to inspire fear in the general population and whites in particular that the alt-right can exploit for political purposes or use to justify their own future violent or oppressive actions.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:52:30am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:53:13am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

please just keep it civil. that is one of the outstanding features of LGF

It shocks me that no other major website has set up a community system as user-friendly and civil as LGF. But that is very much to Charles’ credit.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:54:31am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:58:51am
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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:58:57am

At least the UK is also going through Trumpish growing pains…

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 5:59:26am

re: #248 darthstar

At least the UK is also going through Trumpish growing pains…

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So we’re not alone.

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sagehen  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:02:55am

re: #203 Anymouse

Off-topic, therefore behind a hide button (fairly long and boring computer stuff - everything is standard but nothing works the same).

Some years ago, a Russian firm purchased LiveJournal, a San Francisco company that was one of the first blogging platforms on the Web. There was some rumbling, but as more companies started up blogging platforms (Blogger, Wordpress, &c), North Americans in particular started drifting away from LiveJournal.

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In the fannish world, Dreamwidth was most people’s LiveJournal replacement.

Their tools include a way to transport an entire LJ, including comments.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:03:14am

re: #26 Stanley Sea

Related:

Everywhere you turn, Trump’s picked guys who are extreme at best, incompetent, or otherwise hobbled by scandal even before they get to confirmation hearings.

Why would Trump pick a guy that Gov Christie fired over his role in Bridgegate to be one of his political fixers? Wait, just answered that question. It’s the same answer for why Trump tabbed the white supremacist Bannon or the serial liar Conway. Or any of the other extremists. They want to sabotage government so badly that they can then claim the need to shrink government - self-fulfilling prophesy.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:04:59am

re: #249 darthstar

So we’re not alone.

No, we’re not alone, the industrialized world is going through a period of dumbing down, as the rapid pace of progress has resulted in a backlash of stupidity due to older generations feeling that there has been too much progress too fast, while the younger generations have no idea what life was like before that progress and so are taking it for granted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:05:06am

re: #245 Myron Falwell (no relation)

It shocks me that no other major website has set up a community system as user-friendly and civil as LGF. But that is very much to Charles’ credit.

It is one of the major reasons I have stuck around here since joining nearly ten years ago. Even back when the site was a lot more conservative, it was at least civil and discussion-oriented.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:07:58am

re: #252 Targetpractice

No, we’re not alone, the industrialized world is going through a period of dumbing down, as the rapid pace of progress has resulted in a backlash of stupidity due to older generations feeling that there has been too much progress too fast, while the younger generations have no idea what life was like before that progress and so are taking it for granted.

Education, beyond basic job-oriented training, has also been cut back to a bare minimum. We are paying the price for that.

Too many people do not understand the basics of how science, history, media, government or even language works. It makes them very susceptible to being manipulated by those who have a better understanding.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:08:09am
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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:13:35am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:17:23am

re: #256 darthstar

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Very elitist.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:17:29am
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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:18:09am

re: #257 Sir John Barron

Very elitist.

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He didn’t even tweet about it himself. Sad.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:19:43am

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

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Breaking News: Lying sack of shit lies….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:20:38am

re: #257 Sir John Barron

Very elitist.

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Affirmative Action Elitist at that…

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:21:21am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:22:46am

re: #262 darthstar

Job creators! /

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:22:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:24:39am

re: #262 darthstar

Brings a new meaning to the term “graveyard shift”.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:25:08am

re: #197 SteveMcG RN

Many whites didn’t

These are the kinds of responses that get really, really annoying. Of course not all whites did. That’s why she said many. But the shift of the country toward Republicans has been due to whites reacting to a black man in office and blacks demanding to be treated as equals to whites. You can argue “economic anxiety” but we’ve all seen the numbers.

Now, the Democrats need to do a lot more about how working class people are getting, and are going to continue getting, the shaft as our economy changes. But I don’t expect the Democrats to agree with the woman in Kentucky who voted for Trump, even though she was worried that she would lose her health care, because the lazy blacks are getting something for free. Democrats can work to change her mind, but I don’t expect them to build a platform to address her feelings.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:25:56am

HERE’S A BLAST-O FROM THE PAST-O

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:26:45am

Always nice to walk the dogs in the morning, and stumble onto a street in the complex closed off with police tape, along with a separate area off the side of a different street, multiple Crime Scene Unit vehicles, around a dozen or so evidence markers scattered on the ground between both sites.
Maybe 200 meters, as the crow flies, from my front door.

A search through local news found no mention, Though, there was news of someone getting shot last night, just down on the boulevard that my complex is off.
Maybe that’s it, and the press is just misidentifying the location.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:27:17am

re: #265 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Brings a new meaning to the term “graveyard shift”.

What they really want to know is when to short on their stock.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:27:19am

re: #219 teleskiguy

Jean-Claude Van Damme’s best film is “Universal Soldier.”

This ends my random thought for the quarter.

I liked Time Cop.

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I cannot.  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:30:07am

re: #270 Belafon

I liked Time Cop.

You are dead to me.

(actually, I did too, except for the “one weird time-travel rule” which STILL drives me insane)

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:32:07am

re: #258 darthstar

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“In a few months”? We passed that point months ago, darth. Trump pulled this same routine several times during the campaign: Got the media to stop bothering him about a subject by promising a speech/”revelations” at a nebulous point in the future, leading to a couple days respite in which the media usually moved on to an anti-Hillary story that took up all the time until he finally just announced (after everybody had moved on) that he wasn’t going to be keeping to his promise after all. And the media, already buried in a new story, just let the matter drop. His tax returns, Melania’s immigration history, his business connections, those are topics he made go away by just promising something he knew would never happen.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:33:49am

re: #271 I cannot.

You are dead to me.

(actually, I did too, except for the “one weird time-travel rule” which STILL drives me insane)

The “same matter/same space” BS?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:34:26am

LOL classic

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:37:31am

The minute the new admin can offer a detailed medical plan proposal that is truly arguably better for patients and doctors and nurses, I’m in for the thorough read and study of it. Until then….

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I cannot.  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:39:18am

re: #273 Targetpractice

I was actually trying to avoid typing those words…

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:40:01am

re: #271 I cannot.

You are dead to me.

(actually, I did too, except for the “one weird time-travel rule” which STILL drives me insane)

I always give up a few things in movies, because they’re there to entertain. I love Real Genius, but I’m not really going to buy the explanation of how to get extra power out of a laser.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:42:41am

re: #272 Targetpractice

“In a few months”? We passed that point months ago, darth. Trump pulled this same routine several times during the campaign: Got the media to stop bothering him about a subject by promising a speech/”revelations” at a nebulous point in the future, leading to a couple days respite…

Donald Trump revelations: The ML 370 of politics…

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:43:35am

re: #275 Unshaken Defiance

The GOP line in regards to producing a plan is “we have to pass it in order for you to read it”. Or some other similar BS line.

The GOP lied about what the ACA contained, how it was passed, and what it has done for the economy (improved it, improved quality of life for millions, and reduced uninsured rates significantly). The GOP will lie about their plans for the ACA. They will lie about the consequences.

It’s all they know how to do.

And the liar in chief will say whatever addled things come to mind, completely oblivious to what he said minutes earlier. At same time, the liar in chief’s bigot brigade will ignore all facts and evidence showing that they’ve been duped and screwed while the rich get richer.

Rinse and repeat (pick the issue, and you’ll get the same GOP/right wing responses).

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:46:59am

I’m not a daily beast reader but this article’s title seemed interesting. This is just sad. I know comedians are often depressed and insecure people, but this guy takes the cake.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:47:04am

re: #275 Unshaken Defiance

The minute the new admin can offer a detailed medical plan proposal that is truly arguably better for patients and doctors and nurses, I’m in for the thorough read and study of it. Until then….

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Really, the situation is the GOP simply lacks the balls to say aloud what they really want to say: “Healthcare is for closers only.” If they thought they could get away with it, they’d strip the rules requiring ERs to provide care, which would save their buddies in the healthcare industry heaps of money by being able to deny care to the poor. Any rule or program that provides healthcare to the poor and needy would be gone in a hot minute under a GOP that didn’t have to worry about political consequences. Why? Because their political dogma says if you can’t afford something, then you should go without it until you can. Can’t afford dialysis? Or a new heart? Or just blood pressure medication? So sorry, please go die somewhere else.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:48:29am

re: #272 Targetpractice

He’s got a big promised presser coming this week! Bet it doesn’t happen.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:49:51am

re: #282 darthstar

He’s got a big promised presser coming this week! Bet it doesn’t happen.

You mean the one for tomorrow? Sure, he might hold it…but it will be about virtually nothing. Or it will be like his Trump Hotel “speech,” his using the press to further his own business goals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:52:22am

re: #281 Targetpractice

Because their political dogma says if you can’t afford something, then you should go without it until you can. Can’t afford dialysis? Or a new heart? Or just blood pressure medication? So sorry, please go die somewhere else.

Everybody should keep chickens in case of medical emergencies…

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:53:31am

re: #283 Targetpractice

You mean the one for tomorrow? Sure, he might hold it…but it will be about virtually nothing. Or it will be like his Trump Hotel “speech,” his using the press to further his own business goals.

His presser is to distract from the intelligence community’s announcement tomorrow.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:55:15am

Well just experienced a interesting attempt at social engineering.

Even included a sound track that looped stating that my computer would be disabled if I didn’t enter my logon name and password within the next 5 minutes.

The website I was on when this occurred was ozar dot com

.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:55:20am
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Skip Intro  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:56:52am

re: #285 Belafon

Presser implies questions and answers. I’m betting that there are no questions, just copious amounts of bullshit spewed by Trump. In other words, the exact same thing as every other Trump “presser”, and the media will eat it up.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:57:47am

re: #286 Bubblehead II

Well just experienced a interesting attempt at social engineering.

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Even included a sound track that looped stating that my computer would be disabled if I didn’t enter my logon name and password within the next 5 minutes.

The website I was on when this occurred was ozar dot com

.

Looks legit.
/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:58:10am

re: #288 Skip Intro

Presser implies questions and answers. I’m betting that there are no questions, just copious amounts of bullshit spewed by Trump. In other words, the exact same thing as every other Trump “presser”, and the media will eat it up.

Access to Persons of Power turns them on, and they will humiliate themselves to no end just for a taste of it. He knows that and is milking it for all it’s worth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 6:59:43am

re: #286 Bubblehead II

Well just experienced a interesting attempt at social engineering.

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Even included a sound track that looped stating that my computer would be disabled if I didn’t enter my logon name and password within the next 5 minutes.

The website I was on when this occurred was ozar dot com

.

Remember the “Teddy Bear Virus”?

and to think I even fell for that…

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:00:33am

It’s the end of an era for Sears and Craftsman.

Sears, run by economic illiterate Ayn Rand wannabe Eddie Lampert, is closing still more stores and has now sold Craftsman off to Black and Decker in a bid to raise money to keep the struggling enterprise afloat.

The ailing retailer said Thursday that it had reached a deal to sell the tools brand to Stanley Black & Decker for a net present value of about $900 million, including future royalty payments.

The move came several months after Sears put the Craftsman, Kenmore and DieHard brands up for sale as it seeks an elusive turnaround.

The company said late Tuesday that it would close 78 Kmart stores and 26 Sears stores, calling it “a difficult but necessary step as we take actions to strengthen the company’s operations and fund its transformation.”

Those closure announcements came only eight days after it announced separate plans to close 30 Kmart locations and 16 Sears stores.

Sears also announced Tuesday that it had landed access to $500 million in secured loans provided by Sears CEO and Chairman Edward Lampert’s ESL Investments. Lampert has invested heavily in Sears as he attempts to revitalize the retailer.

Since Lampert took over, Sears has imploded. Going into Sears stores, let alone Kmart stores, is an exercise in watching a dying store. Cluttered layouts, few shoppers even during Christmas season, and floor space allocations that make no sense.

The one area that keeps the company afloat is their tool and appliances section, and even those areas are hard hit - and Lampert is trying to sell them off to keep things afloat.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:02:06am

re: #5 Anymouse

Unfortunately, Mr. McMullin, that is who ‘conservatives’ are these days. Power mad jack offs who will burn the country to the ground if they could rule the ashes.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:02:40am

Uh…graphics department…one small detail…

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:09:13am

re: #292 lawhawk

It’s the end of an era for Sears and Craftsman.

Sears, run by economic illiterate Ayn Rand wannabe Eddie Lampert, is closing still more stores and has now sold Craftsman off to Black and Decker in a bid to raise money to keep the struggling enterprise afloat.

Since Lampert took over, Sears has imploded. Going into Sears stores, let alone Kmart stores, is an exercise in watching a dying store. Cluttered layouts, few shoppers even during Christmas season, and floor space allocations that make no sense.

The one area that keeps the company afloat is their tool and appliances section, and even those areas are hard hit - and Lampert is trying to sell them off to keep things afloat.

Isn’t this one of the things listed as “Not To Do!” in Business Management 101, selling off the money-making portions of your business while keeping a death grip on the hemorrhaging portions? “Quick, let’s cut loose the lifeboats, we’ll stay afloat longer without the weight!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:13:58am

re: #295 Targetpractice

Isn’t this one of the things listed as “Not To Do!” in Business Management 101, selling off the money-making portions of your business while keeping a death grip on the hemorrhaging portions? “Quick, let’s cut loose the lifeboats, we’ll stay afloat longer without the weight!”

Does not matter, Eddie Lampert has his own personal escape pod…

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:14:26am

re: #271 I cannot.

You are dead to me.

(actually, I did too, except for the “one weird time-travel rule” which STILL drives me insane)

Time travel movies (and TV shows) each avoid or explain away the problems with causality and the whole mechanism of time travel. If you think about the problems too much, it spoils the story. I used to be a high school physics teacher, and I can watch something and know something is impossible or wrong, but I’ll let it slide to be entertained.

One thing does bug me, though. Language. People travel back in time and have no trouble speaking with the “locals,” even though language changes even over decades. Go back to 1960 and imagine try to explain what meme, tweet, cellphone, broadband, metrosexual, or wifi to someone. Go back to 1560 and even speaking simple English would confuse the hell out of someone (as would your American accent).

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:17:21am

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

My caption?

Yeah, dipping them in salt after skinning them is my favourite too.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:18:14am

re: #47 Ace-o-aces

“Last nail in the coffin of BLM”?

It still dismays me how eager some are to prove that no, black lives do not matter. Ugh.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:18:18am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

Babelfish.

Or exposure to the TARDIS.

Or other contrivances, like universal translators.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:18:41am

re: #287 darthstar

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Let me answer for him, “No, fuck the American people!”.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:18:57am

re: #294 darthstar

Whooops!

The symbols come from astronomy/astrology and Greek-Roman mythology.

Mars, god of war — sword and shield = circle and arrow
Venus, goddess of beauty — hand mirror with handle

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:20:37am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

One thing does bug me, though. Language. People travel back in time and have no trouble speaking with the “locals,” even though language changes even over decades. Go back to 1960 and imagine try to explain what meme, tweet, cellphone, broadband, metrosexual, or wifi to someone. Go back to 1560 and even speaking simple English would confuse the hell out of someone (as would your American accent).

The only author who ever addressed this issue was Michael Crichton in “Time Line.” As the characters travel back in time to the Middle Ages, they require an interpreter who will translate their modern English (and modern French) into Occitan.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:21:01am

re: #292 lawhawk

It’s the end of an era for Sears and Craftsman.

Sears, run by economic illiterate Ayn Rand wannabe Eddie Lampert, is closing still more stores and has now sold Craftsman off to Black and Decker in a bid to raise money to keep the struggling enterprise afloat.

Just saw on the news yesterday that they are closing my local Sears at the mall.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:21:20am

re: #300 lawhawk

Babelfish.

Or exposure to the TARDIS.

Or other contrivances, like universal translators.

DC’s Legends of Tomorrow people have little devices that give them the ability to speak the local language. Some other TV shows and movies just skip the whole language barrier problem.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:22:54am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

Time travel movies (and TV shows) each avoid or explain away the problems with causality and the whole mechanism of time travel. If you think about the problems too much, it spoils the story. I used to be a high school physics teacher, and I can watch something and know something is impossible or wrong, but I’ll let it slide to be entertained.

One thing does bug me, though. Language. People travel back in time and have no trouble speaking with the “locals,” even though language changes even over decades. Go back to 1960 and imagine try to explain what meme, tweet, cellphone, broadband, metrosexual, or wifi to someone. Go back to 1560 and even speaking simple English would confuse the hell out of someone (as would your American accent).

Life on Mars did actually address the whole language barrier bit, having the modern day character getting weird looks for saying things that either had totally different meanings or weren’t even in the English language in 1973.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:24:43am

re: #304 Eventual Carrion

Just saw on the news yesterday that they are closing my local Sears at the mall.

Sears, Kmart and Macy’s are all shuttering dozens of stores. It’s the end of the road for many big department stores. Target seems to be hanging on, though.

As for Craftsman tools, they were great. I’m not sure how they are now, since it’s been a while since I bought any new ones. Hopefully Stanley Black and Decker will maintain quality.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:25:32am

re: #296 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does not matter, Eddie Lampert has his own personal escape pod…

Of course he does, he’s gonna stick the shareholders with the bill as he bails out with a golden parachute and uses the losses to write off his taxes for the next decade or longer. I fully expect Sears to file Chapter 7 before the decade is out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:26:35am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

I used to be a high school physics teacher, and I can watch something and know something is impossible or wrong, but I’ll let it slide to be entertained.

Germs and viruses…they evolve over time, as do their hosts. Those dinosaurs in Jurassic Park would have taken a few deep breaths and already been fatally ill from some exotic strain to which they had no immunity.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:26:47am

re: #306 Targetpractice

Life on Mars did actually address the whole language barrier bit, having the modern day character getting weird looks for saying things that either had totally different meanings or weren’t even in the English language in 1973.

For great sport, track the slang evolution of the word “booty” from pre-1950 to now.

(Yes, wife and I just spent a week with grandkids. Why do you ask?)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:26:56am

re: #306 Targetpractice

Life on Mars did actually address the whole language barrier bit, having the modern day character getting weird looks for saying things that either had totally different meanings or weren’t even in the English language in 1973.

One of the shows I missed, but I’ve heard it was pretty good.

At the rate things are going now, anyone traveling to a future America will probably need to learn Russian or Chinese to blend in.
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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:27:46am

re: #308 Targetpractice

Of course he does, he’s gonna stick the shareholders with the bill as he bails out with a golden parachute and uses the losses to write off his taxes for the next decade or longer. I fully expect Sears to file Chapter 7 before the decade is out.

Sears is toast. Maybe Alibaba will buy them up.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:29:35am

re: #311 wheat-dogg

One of the shows I missed, but I’ve heard it was pretty good.

At the rate things are going now, anyone traveling to a future America will probably need to learn Russian or Chinese to blend in.
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Assumes future Americans will not gleefully crush the skulls of anyone from our decade.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:29:46am

re: #299 Jebediah, RBG

“Last nail in the coffin of BLM”?

It still dismays me how eager some are to prove that no, black lives do not matter. Ugh.

There’s a Hill article today that shows Gingrich claiming that we’re on the verge of “something terrible” based on this incident. He means “Obama-inspired race war,” of course. His followers and alt-right commenters get that right away. They just can’t wait for an excuse….

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:29:59am

re: #312 wheat-dogg

Sears is toast. Maybe Alibaba will buy them up.

Some foreign real estate investor will buy up the corpse of the company in order to sell off the land, which will result in screams of outrage from wingnuts as they talk about “foreigners” tearing down a piece of “Americana” and demand Republicans do something to prevent it.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:30:05am

re: #310 Decatur Deb

For great sport, track the slang evolution of the word “booty” from pre-1950 to now.

(Yes, wife and I just spent a week with grandkids. Why do you ask?)

Or gay.

No, kids, the Gay Nineties were not when it was okay to come out of the closet, unless you were literally coming out of your closet with a change of clothes.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:31:46am

re: #315 Targetpractice

Some foreign real estate investor will buy up the corpse of the company in order to sell off the land, which will result in screams of outrage from wingnuts as they talk about “foreigners” tearing down a piece of “Americana” and demand Republicans do something to prevent it.

Foreigners already own quite a few American icons, like the Waldorf-Astoria (Chinese) and the Plaza Hotel (Saudi, IIRC).

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:32:58am

re: #316 wheat-dogg

Or gay.

No, kids, the Gay Nineties were not when it was okay to come out of the closet, unless you were literally coming out of your closet with a change of clothes.

In 1965, the second-toughest GI bar in Louisville was the Gay Nineties. They had a one-armed go-go girl and a reputation for re-capping beers left on the bar. For Real.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:33:05am

re: #311 wheat-dogg

One of the shows I missed, but I’ve heard it was pretty good.

At the rate things are going now, anyone traveling to a future America will probably need to learn Russian or Chinese to blend in.
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A few years ago, SciFi had a self-promotion commercial that was a dispatch from the year 3000. It said learn Chinese.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:33:31am

re: #317 wheat-dogg

Foreigners already own quite a few American icons, like the Waldorf-Astoria (Chinese) and the Plaza Hotel (Saudi, IIRC).

True, but in this increasingly protectionist atmosphere we find ourselves in, you can bet some American looking to make a buck off Sears’ demise will find a way to chase off foreign competition by portraying himself as “saving” an American icon from “foreign influence.”

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:34:07am

re: #307 wheat-dogg

Sears, Kmart and Macy’s are all shuttering dozens of stores. It’s the end of the road for many big department stores. Target seems to be hanging on, though.

As for Craftsman tools, they were great. I’m not sure how they are now, since it’s been a while since I bought any new ones. Hopefully Stanley Black and Decker will maintain quality.

Macy’s announced the closure last year of 100+ stores; yesterday’s announcement identified the specific stores in part of that round of closures. So, this isn’t exactly new - guess they wanted to see how those stores would do during the holiday season. The one closing closest to us (Wayne’s Preakness store) is in an area that already has several major Macy’s locations - Wayne has two Macy’s plus a furniture store (the other stores at Willowbrook Mall). Meanwhile, there are Macy’s stores in Paramus (2), plus at Short Hills Mall. Those are high performing malls, so they have foot traffic and location going for them.

We’re going to see a lot more dead malls before the decade is out - along with attempts to resuscitate them with transition to open air concepts or redevelopment away from anchor tenant locations.

So, while the Internet is sapping department store sales, the reality is people still like to buy stuff they can see/feel/try on. The problem is that Macy’s doesn’t exactly provide a good value, even when you get their coupons, which have so many exclusions, they aren’t useful (compared to Kohl’s which allows coupons on practically all items sold in the store, though Kohl’s also had a disappointing Christmas season).

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:34:18am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germs and viruses…they evolve over time, as do their hosts. Those dinosaurs in Jurassic Park would have taken a few deep breaths and already been fatally ill from some exotic strain to which they had no immunity.

I think they were genetically engineered to avoid that problem, but you’ve got a point.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:38:49am

re: #321 lawhawk

Macy’s announced the closure last year of 100+ stores; yesterday’s announcement identified the specific stores in part of that round of closures. So, this isn’t exactly new - guess they wanted to see how those stores would do during the holiday season. The one closing closest to us (Wayne’s Preakness store) is in an area that already has several major Macy’s locations - Wayne has two Macy’s plus a furniture store (the other stores at Willowbrook Mall). Meanwhile, there are Macy’s stores in Paramus (2), plus at Short Hills Mall. Those are high performing malls, so they have foot traffic and location going for them.

We’re going to see a lot more dead malls before the decade is out - along with attempts to resuscitate them with transition to open air concepts or redevelopment away from anchor tenant locations.

So, while the Internet is sapping department store sales, the reality is people still like to buy stuff they can see/feel/try on. The problem is that Macy’s doesn’t exactly provide a good value, even when you get their coupons, which have so many exclusions, they aren’t useful (compared to Kohl’s which allows coupons on practically all items sold in the store, though Kohl’s also had a disappointing Christmas season).

I rarely shopped at Macy’s, but I loved the Manhattan store’s basement for buying low price kitchen stuff. I think I bought my first wok there in 1978, and now I think my son still uses it.

Macy’s, Kmart and Sears mostly failed to adapt to the times and deal with the competition. Lampert’s harebrained managerial style was no help for Sears, either.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:41:25am

re: #321 lawhawk

So, while the Internet is sapping department store sales, the reality is people still like to buy stuff they can see/feel/try on.

They go check things out or try them on at a department store and then order them online. That will have to be the model for the future.

Another music store in Frankfurt just closed because the owner could not compete with on-line music houses. I admit that I only go to retail music stores when I needed a set of strings or picks right away.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:44:29am
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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:45:04am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

You wouldn’t happen to live in the Midwest would you? My family and I are hard workers and have some knowledge of aquaculture and we have had a family garden since 2008 :).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:47:46am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Worth warning/reminding people that white supremacists often do racist flyering on MLKJr weekend, sometimes calling it James Earl Ray Day.]

And people who express their outrage at this “expression of free speech” are called “oversensitive snowflakes”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:50:49am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotta say that I’m somewhat relieved that my underground house/bunker will be completed this year. That I have a fully functional farm for food, timber, mountain medicinal herbs and roots, and an overabundance of whitetail deer, wild turkeys and other game. Backup energy sources, yep we got the wind, solar and hydro.
And, best of all, a carefully selected and cultivated group of talented folks who know where they can find a bolthole if shit really hits the fan. The internet might be iffy, but I’ve been a ham radio operator since the mid 1970s, so some level of communication is covered.

This is not to say I believe any catastrophic events are in the offing.

OTOH, I’ll be ready for the next time a natural disaster hits like it did here in 2003 when an ice storm hit (I’m talking 5+inches of ice in less than a day) and we were without power for more than three weeks. (And no one in the rest of the country knew or cared about it.)

I offer my bread (and PIE!) baking skills for when SHTF.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:50:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:52:55am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

I offer my bread (and PIE!) baking skills for when SHTF.

my kitchen is your kitchen!

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sagehen  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:54:38am

re: #300 lawhawk

Babelfish.

Or exposure to the TARDIS.

Or other contrivances, like universal translators.

Or, y’know, just hire Daniel Jackson.

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:55:53am

re: #323 wheat-dogg

I think price has something to do with it. Many ppl in the class that once kept up with the Jones’ have tons of student loan debt. And Macy’s is notorious now for having credit card specific sales.

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electrotek  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:57:00am

Required reading for the Pamela Geller’s and Robert Spencer’s of the world:

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 7:58:38am

re: #314 Barefoot Grin

There’s no such thing as a race war, it’s really just code for “excuse for Genocide”. I wish the Catholic church would censure Catholic politicians who try the “excuse for genocide”/race war talk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:00:47am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:01:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:01:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:03:01am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:06:45am

re: #333 electrotek

Naw, they’ll just note that the war was incompetently run or otherwise incomplete or insufficiently violent to eliminate the threat. /no true Islamophobe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:08:26am
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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:08:49am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

Inhofe: WHY IS THE CIA TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING?!!!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:10:36am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:10:41am

re: #341 Belafon

Inhofe: WHY IS THE CIA TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING?!!!

I had a similar idea. Wait for Inhofe to bring in a snowball and claim it proves there is no climate problem with national intelligence’s reputation.

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:11:28am

Okay, but this started a few years ago (imho). Why didn’t the intelligence agencies uhm stop it then, or warn ppl? The warning only came closer to the election? They should have met with journalist and “leaked” the threat in January 2016 at the latest…

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:11:30am

re: #342 Charles Johnson

Well, he said he liked the poorly educated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:11:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:13:08am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:13:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:15:13am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:15:43am

re: #344 baileylamb

Okay, but this started a few years ago (imho). Why didn’t the intelligence agencies uhm stop it then, or warn ppl? The warning only came closer to the election? They should have met with journalist and “leaked” the threat in January 2016 at the latest…

Apparently the F.B.I. did make a call to the IT desk of the DNC in 2015 warning them, but the guy who took the call said he couldn’t tell if it was genuine or a prank. DNC should have been more pro-active; FBI should have called a face-to-face meeting to brief on the concerns.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:16:59am

Next up on the GOP agenda after they repeal the ACA (with no replacement!)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:17:18am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chicago police say no Black Lives Matter connection to torture suspects, despite reports circulating on social media

People like Drudge and Breitbart figured out long ago that once a story like this gets out there, it takes on a life of its own.

And someday when historians look for the root causes of the decline and fall of the American Empire, that will be seen as one of the key factors…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:18:01am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:18:48am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

And note too that the ACA also expanded birth control coverage, so this would be a double hit for women. Not only would they have to pay more for birth control, but if it fails, they’d be subjected to this belief-based bullshit about fetal heartbeat taking precedence over a woman’s rights to be anything but a brood mare.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:19:27am
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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:20:39am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

Next up on the GOP agenda after they repeal the ACA (with no replacement!)

The rich will be able to fly to other countries.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:22:34am

re: #292 lawhawk

Since Lampert took over, Sears has imploded. Going into Sears stores, let alone Kmart stores, is an exercise in watching a dying store. Cluttered layouts, few shoppers even during Christmas season, and floor space allocations that make no sense.

Last Spring, our old BBQ bit the big one, so we set about shopping for a new one. Went on Sears’ site, found one that looked good, and hopped into the truck to go over to the Sears in a local mall and pick it up.

We got to the mall and the Sears store wasn’t there any more. Gone without a trace. It’s a Dick’s Sporting Goods store now.

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:24:01am

Call me crazy, but it seems like elements in the FBI and other agencies decided that they would be okay with a potential manchurian candidate as long as he was “Republican”.

How far is the rot?

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:27:04am

re: #307 wheat-dogg

Sears, Kmart and Macy’s are all shuttering dozens of stores. It’s the end of the road for many big department stores. Target seems to be hanging on, though.

As for Craftsman tools, they were great. I’m not sure how they are now, since it’s been a while since I bought any new ones. Hopefully Stanley Black and Decker will maintain quality.

I wonder what happens to the lifetime guarantee, both on new items and the stuff that’s been around for years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:29:34am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:32:28am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clapper asked whether Assange has put lives in direct danger. “Yes, he has.” Seconded by Rogers.

And that is the issue that I have with him. Exposing crimes against the American people or humanity in general might serve to mitigate some of what he did, but does not fully justify his methods.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:41:33am

Looks like one of my tweets at Rep. Blackburn (R-TN/1763) from yesterday hit a nerve with a lot of people:

Apparently it even got picked by some online outfit as showing that Blackburn’s QA/poll backfired spectacularly.

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Bass Reeves  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:45:36am

re: #207 Anymouse

From your link:

Trump’s margin among whites without a college degree is the largest among any candidate in exit polls since 1980.

And:

Among whites, Trump won an overwhelming share of those without a college degree; and among white college graduates - a group that many identified as key for a potential Clinton victory - Trump outperformed Clinton by a narrow 4-point margin.

And:

Due largely to the dramatic movement among whites with no college degree, the gap between college and non-college whites is wider in 2016 than in any past election dating to 1980.

So yeah, when every other demographic broke overwhelmingly for Clinton, this was white voters. I’m not going to say they all broke for Trump, but the 3rd party candidates spoiled the hell out of this one as well. Obviously, because we already had a #notallwhites, I’m not saying it was all white voters, but it was enough to counter every other racial group.

Also, seriously. The handwaving from SteveMcG on voter suppression is amazing. “Oh voter suppression exists, just get more voters” is a pretty mind-boggling argument. First Pres Election since VRA is gutted means ‘just get more voters’? Republican legislatures get slapped by courts for specifically targeting minority Dem voters and IGNORE it on election day, and the solution is just get more voters who won’t get to vote?

And finally, have you considered that if it took Russian interference, Bernie Bros, Comey, AND voter suppression at levels not seen since 1965 for Trump to LOSE BY 3 MILLION VOTES then maybe, just maybe…Hillary wasn’t all that horrible of a candidate?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:47:45am

Kentucky’s SoS taking a slap at our General Assembly as they get ready to send a right-to-work bill to Gov Bevin:

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blueraven  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:54:07am

Shocka!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:57:59am
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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:58:03am

re: #366 blueraven

Shocka!

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According to a story yesterday, she was not supposed to be an Electoral College voter, supposedly because Florida law doesn’t allow office holders to be part of the Electoral College.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2017 • 8:59:44am

re: #366 blueraven

Shocka!

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I’m looking for my surprised face, will let you know when I find it.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:01:44am

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’re extremely clear about not replacing it.

Accurate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:02:06am

Oh well that settles that.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:03:35am

re: #371 The Vicious Babushka

Too many people complained.

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I cannot.  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:05:45am

re: #368 Belafon

The various bits about ineligible voters, I’m inclined to give a pass on, since the Electoral College has been a formality for decades. And the one time we needed them to do the thing the Electoral College was put in the Constitution for, none of them did their job.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:07:34am

re: #373 I cannot.

The various bits about ineligible voters, I’m inclined to give a pass on, since the Electoral College has been a formality for decades. And the one time we needed them to do the thing the Electoral College was put in the Constitution for, none of them did their job.

It’s just one more thing in the “How did Trump become president?” shitshow.

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Bass Reeves  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:07:51am

re: #371 The Vicious Babushka

I’m going to say that you can parse that statement as accurate and still a lie. Spicer said there were no plans to restructure the infrastructure. Buildings, roads, power supplies, internet capabilities. He also might have said (although Spicer doesn’t actually say that in the statement) that TRUMP has no plans. He still says ‘all discussions are tentative’, which means discussions about something undetermined are happening, and they do relate to the IC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:09:17am

re: #373 I cannot.

The various bits about ineligible voters, I’m inclined to give a pass on, since the Electoral College has been a formality for decades. And the one time we needed them to do the thing the Electoral College was put in the Constitution for, none of them did their job.

The rest of our electoral system, from campaign funding through redistricting to voter registration and ID, was broken. Why should we expect the EC to work?

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:23:33am

re: #366 blueraven

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:25:52am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:26:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:28:21am
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Skip Intro  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:31:16am

re: #342 Charles Johnson

I think he believes that “Intelligence” is a movie.

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blueraven  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:32:30am

re: #377 lawhawk

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Move along. Nothing to see here. Did you hear about Hillary’s emails?

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Mike Lamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:32:42am

re: #377 lawhawk

My tank of evens is running on fumes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:38:29am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:45:04am
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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:45:15am

re: #377 lawhawk

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Every single fucking whine about DWS just went up in a poof of BS.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:46:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:48:48am
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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:50:16am

re: #386 lawhawk

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But it will be hailed as “better” because Obama’s fingerprints are not upon it. And the stories about people losing their insurance will be treated as his fault.

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:59:03am

re: #386 lawhawk

But democrats don’t understand the needs of working ppl….

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Jenner7  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:59:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:00:55am

re: #392 Jenner7

They have to hide their nominees from the public. Cowards.

They are playing the press like a fiddle.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:01:57am

re: #393 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are playing the press like a fiddle.

That implies that the press are unwilling participants. Everything we’ve seen so far would seem to imply the opposite is true.

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:03:35am
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jeffreyw  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:07:42am

Imgur


Lunchtime!

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:08:10am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cooties I guess

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:09:10am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m pretty sure Trump will have the solar panels removed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:09:43am

re: #398 Belafon

I’m pretty sure Trump will have the solar panels removed.

and sell them to China

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:10:14am

What in the utter fuck is this shit?

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:11:26am

re: #400 The Vicious Babushka

What in the utter fuck is this shit?

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The perps also weren’t cops. But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way of outrage.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:12:18am

re: #395 wrenchwench

This made my morning so much better.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:12:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:12:55am

re: #400 The Vicious Babushka

This innocent kid didn’t resist arrest, rob a convenience store, assault an officer or do anything wrong. Attacked for FUN for being white.

I fear that we are going to start seeing “preemptive” racial violence that is going to border on all-out race war by the time this is all over…

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:13:28am

I’m gonna miss him/ be interested to see where he goes:

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Stanley Sea  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:15:56am

yeah OK.

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:16:43am

re: #402 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This made my morning so much better.

Some of us are easy to please.

I made brownies last night. I’m going to go bite one.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:16:43am

re: #405 wrenchwench

I’m gonna miss him/ be interested to see where he goes:

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Don’t worry Rick Perry and Jesus are studying hard!

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:16:59am

re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Please stop with the “race war” crap.

There’s no such thing. White people have everything at their disposal including the full might of the US government and hundreds of millions of people.

There is no race war, there are only ppl who are looking for an excuse to kill/commit Genocide on about 40 million children women and men.

Please I beg you stop using the code words for genocide.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:20:30am

re: #409 baileylamb

Please stop with the “race war” crap.

There’s no such thing. White people have everything at their disposal including the full might of the US government and hundreds of millions of people.

There is no race war, there are only ppl who are looking for an excuse to kill/commit Genocide on about 40 million children women and men.

Please I beg you stop using the code words for genocide.

I was being hyperbolic, but I fear that we are going to see a major spike in the incidences of racially motivated violence. And we know which side most local police and government authorities will be on…

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:20:52am

re: #409 baileylamb

Actually, it’s a valid use of the word considering that this is what these white supremacists and neo Nazis want to see happen ultimately. They want a racial holy war to cleanse the nation, and they’ll do whatever it takes.

Now that Trump’s helped mainstream their beliefs up to and including putting one of the perpetrators of the white supremacist claptrap at Breitbart in a key White House position, to say nothing of quoting white supremacists repeatedly on twitter in an affirmative manner, they are emboldened to act even more freely than before.

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:20:54am

re: #406 Stanley Sea

[Dylann Roof says it’s “not fair”]

yeah OK.

He’s not old enough (mentally) to be responsible/put to death.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:22:34am

Really???

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:24:51am

re: #413 Dave In Austin

Really???

If Trump (or Pence) were smart, he’d challenge this as a separation of powers issue.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:25:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:25:53am

re: #411 lawhawk

Actually, it’s a valid use of the word considering that this is what these white supremacists and neo Nazis want to see happen ultimately. They want a racial holy war to cleanse the nation, and they’ll do whatever it takes.

That’s what I was getting at…A race War in which Whites are the Wehrmacht and the Blacks are Poland…

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:26:04am

re: #411 lawhawk

How is it a war when one “side” has every resource? Just bc the Neo nazis claim something doesn’t mean we have to agree with their claim. It’s not a war if it’s virtually slaughter…

It’s not academic, they can say they want a tomato holiday, but what they really mean is slaughter.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:26:19am

tRump now threatening Toyota.

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:26:50am

re: #416 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Except Poland was a country with an army, not hustle a group of civilians with darker skin.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:27:37am

re: #412 wrenchwench

He’s not old enough (mentally) to be responsible/put to death.

No one is.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:28:37am

re: #416 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s what I was getting at…A race War in which Whites are the Wehrmacht and the Blacks are Poland…

The role of the 101st Airborne is yet to be cast.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:28:38am

re: #419 baileylamb

Except Poland was a country with an army, not hustle a group of civilians with darker skin.

I simply meant in terms of resources and eventual outcome. Point is, there are a lot of heavily armed people looking for any excuse to start perpetrating some nasty and one-sided violence.

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:29:00am

re: #420 Decatur Deb

No one is.

Have to agree with that more every day.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:29:43am

re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We, especially those of us with white skin, are going to have to aggressively push back against these people gaining any sort of foot hold. We have to keep going after them when they start acting like assholes, so that they’ll go crawl back under their rock. We can’t afford to wait until they do something.

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baileylamb  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:29:45am

re: #422 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I diagram in then resource aspect as well. And then outcome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:30:28am
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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:30:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:31:09am

re: #424 Belafon

We, especially those of us with white skin, are going to have to aggressively push back against these people gaining any sort of foot hold. We have to keep going after them when they start acting like assholes, so that they’ll go crawl back under their rock. We can’t afford to wait until they do something.

It is going to be tough when they discover that the local law enforcement is a neutral onlooker or even an active enabler.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:31:39am

WTFITS

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:32:35am

re: #428 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is going to be tough when they discover that the local law enforcement is a neutral onlooker or even an active enabler.

It sucks that we’re having to relive the time before the 70s, but here we are. Blacks had/have to deal with that. But we can help.

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:35:12am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:35:46am

Sorry, but the president’s got it wrong. It has to be called GOP Half Assed Care. Or GOPDon’tCare.

There’s nothing about what the GOP is doing that is about providing affordable health insurance, or expanding coverage beyond what Obamacare has done. In fact, everything I’m seeing about what the GOP has planned is either a flat out repeal with a replacement to come at some future date or not at all (reverting the situation to a pre-2009 condition, where if you have a preexisting condition, you might as well make your peace with the maker, because you weren’t getting health insurance, for just one significant example) or it’s a recognition that the GOP will end up with a plan that covers fewer people and costs as much or more - a far more costly enterprise than what we have now.

In other words, this has nothing to do with policy, and everything to do with gutting a signature health care coverage program that has worked despite GOP efforts to strangle it to death repeatedly by every means at their disposal because it comes from the Democrats - and a black president in particular.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:37:02am

re: #431 Kragar

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I think these companies should sue him.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:37:07am

*sigh* So, what did Toyota do to piss in Herr Hairpiece’s cereal today? Did their CEO say something mean about him?

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Alephnaught  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:37:15am

re: #418 Bubblehead II

So, how long until Toyota issues press release: “Errrr, that wasn’t our plan, ever. We’re still building those cars in the USA.”

Trumpkchins go “VICTORY!!!! ALL HAIL OUR WONKY HAIRED LEADER!!!!!”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:37:59am

re: #431 Kragar

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Trump wants US workers to take jobs that rightly belong to Japanese assembly workers.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:38:24am

re: #434 Targetpractice

*sigh* So, what did Toyota do to piss in Herr Hairpiece’s cereal today? Did their CEO say something mean about him?

He thinks that he was the reason Ford decided no to shift production to Mexico, and so he thinks he has control over the companies.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:40:00am

re: #437 Belafon

He thinks that he was the reason Ford decided no to shift production to Mexico, and so he thinks he has control over the companies.

He literally does have control over these companies if he can manipulate their stock prices with a single Tweet.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:41:37am
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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:41:53am

re: #438 The Vicious Babushka

He literally does have control over these companies if he can manipulate their stock prices with a single Tweet.

I can’t wait until he finds out what the WTO is.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:42:35am

re: #431 Kragar

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Or extortion. I wonder if we’re going to see the first president slapped with RICO charges.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:42:35am
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retired cynic  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:42:39am

re: #413 Dave In Austin

Really???

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I have started the process of emailing my US Rep Darin LaHood about my disgust concerning specific actions they are taking, and saying there are many more like me out here. He may not care, but I am going to keep doing it. My senators are Dick Durbin and Tammy Duckworth, so things are good there! I send them “attaboys” right along.

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:44:10am
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retired cynic  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:45:47am

re: #429 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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It looks like the Republicans have taken up DT’s style of outrage on top of outrage, so there is no possibility of responding properly to the mass of outrage.

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:45:54am
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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:47:07am

With fanboy Trump in office, Assange can’t very well claim fear of extradition to the United States as a reason for hiding out in the Ecuadorian embassy. He will have to find a new excuse since his real reason, the Swedish sexual assault investigation, remains as valid as ever. Of course, dudebros and other dupes will just ignore this and continue to portray the spy as a martyr to journalism.

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:47:08am
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Donkey With No Name  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:47:14am

Connie Willis’s time-traveling historians (e.g. Doomsday Book) have to deal with language barriers too - one key issue in the above-mentioned is the historian learning a slightly wrong dialect which makes it very difficult for her to communicate.

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

The only author who ever addressed this issue was Michael Crichton in “Time Line.” As the characters travel back in time to the Middle Ages, they require an interpreter who will translate their modern English (and modern French) into Occitan.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:48:41am

re: #448 Kragar

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What, no option for “Herr Hairpiece”?

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:50:00am

re: #450 Targetpractice

What, no option for “Herr Hairpiece”?

I saw “Err Hairpiece” the other day.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:58:19am

You can already hear the excuses for GOPcare:

“It won’t cover as many people.”
“Well, not everybody wanted insurance under Obamacare, so the people who will be insured are the ones who want it rather than are forced to do so by a tax!”

“It will cost more.”
“Our numbers say it will cost less and will save people more in the long run! Who are you going to believe: that den of liberalism socialism called the ‘CBO’ or our buddies in the healthcare industry?”

“My insurance plan will be canceled.”
“Well yeah, but the wealth of new plans out there will be so large that you’ll be spoiled for choice! Why would you want that Obamacare plan when you can get a plan that suits you?”

“The new regulations won’t cover all the stuff Obamacare did.”
“Studies by our friends in the industry show so much of what insurance companies were forced to cover by Obamacare wasn’t used. Guys didn’t need plans that covered procedures women need and vice versa. So you’ll be able to choose plans that cover what you need and not a bunch of clutter. After all, you’re young and invincible, why do you need a plan that covers heart stents?”

You get the gist, we’re gonna be served up cat food and told it’s fine dining because it’s “better.”

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:00:07am

At last, Texas will be made safe thanks to the tireless efforts of bathroom gender crusader Dan Patrick. Let’s hear it for Republican priorities.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:03:14am

Sure, the headline can be written like that - but there’s no cause-effect there unlike the stock market gyrations following a Trump tweet about Toyota or GM or Ford or Boeing.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:04:24am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh, so the cars will be more expensive, then.

Good work, dRump.

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:04:56am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:04:57am

re: #453 jaunte

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At last, Texas will be made safe thanks to the tireless efforts of bathroom gender crusader Dan Patrick. Let’s hear it for Republican priorities.

I’m so excited I can hardly stand myself.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:05:03am

“Macy’s cuts 10,000 jobs after disappointing holiday shopping season.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:05:57am

re: #454 lawhawk

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Sure, the headline can be written like that - but there’s no cause-effect there unlike the stock market gyrations following a Trump tweet about Toyota or GM or Ford or Boeing.

The Macy’s layoffs have more to do with the decline of brick and mortar retail malls than Trumper tantrums.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:06:09am

re: #453 jaunte

At last, Texas will be made safe thanks to the tireless efforts of bathroom gender crusader Dan Patrick. Let’s hear it for Republican priorities.

Texas businesses are against it. It will be interesting to see this one play out.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:07:46am

re: #460 Belafon

It’s not exactly a spontaneous issue arising from the populace in general.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:09:14am

re: #461 jaunte

It’s not exactly a spontaneous issue arising from the populace in general.

Here in my tiny blood red county of Rockwall, even the conservatives here are against it. They mayor tried to introduce a similar ordinance and he got blasted by his own voters.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:09:30am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

The Macy’s layoffs have more to do with the decline of brick and mortar retail malls than Trumper tantrums.

Yup. See my 321.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:09:51am

re: #462 Belafon

I don’t see who the effort benefits.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:09:57am

re: #460 Belafon

Texas businesses are against it. It will be interesting to see this one play out.

Businesses in NC were against HB2, but Free Market Jesus said they’d get over it and so the GOP passed it. Then proceeded to claim they were the victims of a grand conspiracy to punish them for their religious beliefs…or something.

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:10:45am
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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:12:32am
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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:12:42am

re: #466 Kragar

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4. Petty Revenge
5. Fucking Over The Economy
6. Covering For President-Elect’s Nuttiness

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:13:41am

re: #467 jaunte

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There are few things as jaw-droppingly disgusting as a white person quoting Dr. King to justify oppression.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:15:04am

re: #469 Targetpractice

Dan Patrick is one of Texas’ record lows.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:15:19am

re: #469 Targetpractice

There are few things as jaw-droppingly disgusting as a white person quoting Dr. King to justify oppression.

Or invoking the Holocaust when a bakery has to provide cake for a same-sex wedding.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:21:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:23:41am
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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:23:58am

re: #465 Targetpractice

Businesses in NC were against HB2, but Free Market Jesus said they’d get over it and so the GOP passed it. Then proceeded to claim they were the victims of a grand conspiracy to punish them for their religious beliefs…or something.

And that’s why it will be interesting here in Texas. While we have a lot of climate denialists, Texas also has one of the largest wind farms in the world because money. Texas justifies just about everything because of business. We’ll see what happens.

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Scottishdragon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:24:00am

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

The only author who ever addressed this issue was Michael Crichton in “Time Line.” As the characters travel back in time to the Middle Ages, they require an interpreter who will translate their modern English (and modern French) into Occitan.

The 1632 sci fi book series(a West Virginia town from 2000 end up in the middle of 17th century Germany) deals with this quite a bit…along with clashes in modern religous/government values vs 17th century Holy Roman Empire attitudes.

The rapid diffusion of technology (and attempts by everybody in Europe to get copies of history books and encyclopedias from school libraries and private collections) features heavily.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:24:02am
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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:24:49am

re: #473 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I would not be surprised if they believe that this incident will mean Toyota will be forced to build a plant in their states or expand existing plants.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:26:12am
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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:26:39am

re: #467 jaunte

Such an oppressed minority, whites having to be tolerant of other people. //

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:26:56am

re: #382 blueraven

Move along. Nothing to see here. Did you hear about Hillary’s emails?

Those are nothing! What is really disturbing are what was in the DNC emails.

The Russians did America a favor.

Keep eyes on what is real important. Democrats cannot be trusted to run a legit campaign!!!

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:28:15am

re: #478 jaunte

Jan 21.

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:28:20am
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blueraven  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:30:40am

ummmm…wtf

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:31:23am

The Trump fashion in press conferences is spreading.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:32:04am

re: #430 Belafon

It sucks that we’re having to relive the time before the 70s, but here we are. Blacks had/have to deal with that. But we can help.

We have taken all the gains made in personal freedoms, minority, women’s and LGBT rights since the 1950’s for granted. Looks like we might have to fight for them all over again. There are certainly enough people who want to see them revoked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:33:42am

O_o

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:34:00am
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Bass Reeves  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:34:09am

re: #483 blueraven

Quick glance through the timeline shows douchebro-ness. Kick in shins authorized.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:34:27am

re: #483 blueraven

ummmm…wtf

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Why not CNN, where they could combine the obsession with a missing plane with the obsession over a missing white girl?

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:34:56am

re: #485 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have taken all the gains made in personal freedoms, minority, women’s and LGBT rights since the 1950’s for granted. Looks like we might have to fight for them all over again. There are certainly enough people who want to see them revoked.

There will just have to be more of us that want them to be kept.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:34:58am

re: #483 blueraven

ummmm…wtf

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The only theory I have is there is money in being the opposition. And Greta & Megyn will flip & be never Trumpers. (Where was Greta before?)

The opposition cable news during Obama was Fox. Now the opposition cable news during Trump will be MSNBC.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:35:53am

re: #491 Stanley Sea

Greta was on CNN before FOX.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:36:07am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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“Freedom of association”? What’s that?

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:36:18am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

These are the same people who believe the government should not be able to tell them they have to buy health insurance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:36:27am

re: #476 jaunte

Sure. As we all know, MLK *loved* southern state laws that mandated which people could use which bathrooms.

All based on God’s law

(see ‘curse of Ham’)

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:37:50am
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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:37:58am

Six Ring Confirmation Circus, Next Wednesday

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:38:46am
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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:39:38am

re: #438 The Vicious Babushka

He literally does have control over these companies if he can manipulate their stock prices with a single Tweet.

How long before the people that are losing money by him doing this stock market meddling start applying pressure to their GOP congress members?

Seems to me in a few months congress is going to be getting a lot of pressure from all sides.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:40:52am
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Belafon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:41:16am

re: #499 ObserverArt

How long before the people that are losing money by him doing this stock market meddling start applying pressure to their GOP congress members?

Seems to me in a few months congress is going to be getting a lot of pressure from all sides.

And then the merger of business and government will be complete: “What have you got for me, CEO?”

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:42:16am

re: #500 The Vicious Babushka

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“Volunteering” prison labor. The conversion of America into a banana republic continues apace.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:42:48am

re: #447 Shiplord Kirel

With fanboy Trump in office, Assange can’t very well claim fear of extradition to the United States as a reason for hiding out in the Ecuadorian embassy. He will have to find a new excuse since his real reason, the Swedish sexual assault investigation, remains as valid as ever. Of course, dudebros and other dupes will just ignore this and continue to portray the spy as a martyr to journalism.

Hasn’t time run out on those charges???

I think the only thing keeping him in hiding is his fear the US is going to sweep him up for the Manning leaks.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:42:53am

Force an independent minded artist on stage with a microphone and broadcast it to the nation. That’s a bright idea.

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:43:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:44:07am

re: #502 Targetpractice

“Volunteering” prison labor. The conversion of America into a banana republic continues apace.

Blood offerings to the Blood God

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:45:00am
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BeachDem  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:45:05am

re: #483 blueraven

ummmm…wtf

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Calls for a repeat of these two graphics:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:45:31am

My Congressperson==>

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BeachDem  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:47:07am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Disappointed that Democrats’ numbers aren’t 100/0—why should anyone be required to perform at an event just because they were asked?

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blueraven  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:49:28am

re: #491 Stanley Sea

The only theory I have is there is money in being the opposition. And Greta & Megyn will flip & be never Trumpers. (Where was Greta before?)

The opposition cable news during Obama was Fox. Now the opposition cable news during Trump will be MSNBC.

She was fairly pro-Trump on Fox. Not quite Hannity but…

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Scottishdragon  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:56:42am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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There has been a very long and extensive correlation between conservatism and authoritarianism.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:17:25pm

re: #413 Dave In Austin

I understand there are no plans to consider it in the Senate.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:26:20pm

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

So everybody practice up on “Strange Fruit!”

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sagehen  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:27:11pm

re: #475 Scottishdragon

The 1632 sci fi book series(a West Virginia town from 2000 end up in the middle of 17th century Germany) deals with this quite a bit…along with clashes in modern religous/government values vs 17th century Holy Roman Empire attitudes.

The rapid diffusion of technology (and attempts by everybody in Europe to get copies of history books and encyclopedias from school libraries and private collections) features heavily.

My favorite part of 1632 was when they realized they had to open relations with the Ottoman Empire earlier than happened in our timeline, because COFFEE!! We need our COFFEE and it’s the only place in the world we can get COFFEE!!!!!

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sagehen  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:33:02pm

re: #491 Stanley Sea

The opposition cable news during Obama was Fox. Now the opposition cable news during Trump will be MSNBC.

No.

Morning Joe loves all Republicans, always. Regardless of who’s the President or who holds Congress. Andrea Mitchell is fond of most Republicans, most of the time.

Chris Matthews’ opinion of any particular President is directly exactly proportional to that President’s approval ratings in the latest poll.

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2017 • 12:42:15pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2017 • 2:06:55pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 5, 2017 • 4:09:20pm

re: #27 wheat-dogg

Confirms everything I already suspected or knew about Cernovich. He’s all hat, no cattle. And the gorilla motif he espouses makes no real sense, as gorillas are vegetarian and rarely aggressive. Maybe he learned everything he knows about gorillas from watching King Kong.

Or Donkey Kong where the gorillas get the pretty girls and then just have to repel the invading immigrant plumbers.


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