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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:45:25pm

Is it me or is Jacob’s voice changing?

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:45:56pm
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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:47:16pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

Check out the crown - this is Alpine today.

This is my friend’s son on Sherwood Cliffs, yesterday.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:50:10pm

re: #3 darthstar

one more - they’re the size of VWs.

I had a great pic on this ridgeline from 2011 with one of my patrol buddies…she was standing next to a loaf peeling off that was about as big as a bus.

We got us a base.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:51:09pm

re: #3 darthstar

Yikes! If that’s happening with the maritime snowpack in California I fear for the inner mountain west with our notorious deep persistent slabs in the next few days.

Went skiing today, choked on pow all day.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:52:19pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

Yikes! If that’s happening with the maritime snowpack in California I fear for the inner mountain west with our notorious deep persistent slabs in the next few days.

Went skiing today, choked on pow all day.

What’s going to be interesting is when Saturday/Sunday’s system moves in here and the snow level rises to at least 9000’ while dumping over a foot of rain on that.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:53:27pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

Yikes! If that’s happening with the maritime snowpack in California I fear for the inner mountain west with our notorious deep persistent slabs in the next few days.

Went skiing today, choked on pow all day.

I’m driving up in the morning. Patrolling Saturday and Sunday. Avy danger is super high…and the storm coming in this weekend is a warm one, so it’ll soak all of this snow down and create a base that will be serving up good corn well into April.

But yeah, it’s fuckin’ deadly right now. That’s the size of a crown that killed one of our guys a few years ago.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:55:19pm

This happened today. Very sad.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 9:58:10pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

This happened today. Very sad.

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Aw, shit…that sucks. As much as I like powder, I’ve never understood overnight backcountry skiing. There’s just too much that can go wrong and you’re so fucked if it does.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:00:53pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:03:23pm

The other Crowder……

Liberal Redneck - Thanks Obama

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:03:25pm

re: #6 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What’s going to be interesting is when Saturday/Sunday’s system moves in here and the snow level rises to at least 9000’ while dumping over a foot of rain on that.

Yeah…I love skiing in the rain…not. Going to be a long weekend for me.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:08:03pm

re: #9 darthstar

Aw, shit…that sucks. As much as I like powder, I’ve never understood overnight backcountry skiing. There’s just too much that can go wrong and you’re so fucked if it does.

I’ve been on hut trips, they are pretty exhilarating. My first hut trip was the Hinsdale Haute Route outside Lake City, CO in 2009. I’ll never forget it. I had to take a leak in the middle of the night and when I went outside I just stood there for a minute or two. It was a full moon and yet I could see lots and lots of stars and constellations, as we were many many miles away from the nearest streetlight. It’s a scene I’ll never forget.

Oh, and every run was bottomless powder.

The preparation for such trips is extensive and sometimes frustrating. A lot of times you have to apply weeks in advance for the huts.

I still want to ski from Telluride to Ouray. My sister and her husband have done that trip a couple of times and they say it’s as close as you can get to being one with the mountains and snow.

Here’s a picture of me outside a hut on the Hinsdale Haute Route:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:09:53pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

Is it me or is Jacob’s voice changing?

The Brady’s Sing ‘Time To Change” | The Brady Bunch | TV Land

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:11:04pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Sweet…I’ll leave it to you younguns.

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prairiefire  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:12:32pm

A symphony in a piano.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:13:00pm

True story:

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prairiefire  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:13:28pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

So sad.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:13:31pm

re: #14 GlutenFreeJesus

Ah, the Peter hits puberty episode. They should have just had him spend the whole episode in the bathroom with Greg’s playboys and a box of tissues while the three girls complained about not getting to go pee…because that’s what I remember about puberty…not my voice cracking.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:15:35pm

Okay…time for bed. Got a long drive in the morning and still have to cook Banjo’s food for the next three nights while I’m away so my lovely wife won’t have to.

Peace out, motherfuckers…love y’all.

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prairiefire  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:17:25pm

re: #7 darthstar

Be careful, fellas.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:21:48pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:31:28pm
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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 10:53:40pm

re: #23 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s not a horrible abdication of public responsibility at all.

Republicans are representing their constituents’ (corporations) interests.

Who knows? Those pesky national monuments like Chimney Rock and Scott’s Bluff can finally be blown up to clear the way for more cattle-grazing.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:03:24pm

re: #23 klys (maker of Silmarils)

$0? I can afford that! I call dibs on Yellowstone, and I’ll give all you lizards free passes to enter. Due to my religious convictions, Republicans will be charged $1,000 a head to enter, Democrats $50, and third-party supporters coupons to the Denny’s in Cody.

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:06:09pm

re: #25 wheat-dogg

$0? I can afford that! I call dibs on Yellowstone, and I’ll give all you lizards free passes to enter. Due to my religious convictions, Republicans will be charged $1,000 a head to enter, Democrats $50, and third-party supporters coupons to the Denny’s in Cody.

Well, I already have a free pass to enter, but I am sure as soon as some libertarian gets hold of it, it will be turned into either (a) a gated community or (b) mining and logging, whichever makes more money.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:06:13pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

Is it me or is Jacob’s voice changing?

I think Jacob usually sings falsetto for the lead parts in his overdubs, and his regular voice for the supporting harmonies. He’s 18 or so, so his voice changed a while back, I reckon. So, we’re hearing his normal baritone-tenor range. Either way, he’s got a fine set of pipes. I was reminded of George Benson’s vocals on that same song.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:06:18pm

re: #24 Anymouse

It’s not a horrible abdication of public responsibility at all.

Republicans are representing their constituents’ (corporations) interests.

Who knows? Those pesky national monuments like Chimney Rock and Scott’s Bluff can finally be blown up to clear the way for more cattle-grazing.

OUR FORESTS MUST BE MINED FOR COAL!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:07:46pm

re: #26 Anymouse

Well, I already have a free pass to enter, but I am sure as soon as some libertarian gets hold of it, it will be turned into either (a) a gated community or (b) mining and logging, whichever makes more money.

Old Faithful will be capped to produce electricity, and the resulting buildup of pressure will trigger the Yellowstone caldera explosion. So, my offer is only good for a limited time.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:09:02pm

Dems some old-ass guitars.

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:14:42pm

re: #29 wheat-dogg

Old Faithful will be capped to produce electricity, and the resulting buildup of pressure will trigger the Yellowstone caldera explosion. So, my offer is only good for a limited time.

If all Federal property is now worth nothing, perhaps I can buy up a few of these Minuteman III missiles around here. You never know if you might need a dozen or so ICBMs for home defence.

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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:14:47pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:16:19pm
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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:21:28pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

A veritable heat wave.

Both the National Weather Service and my own thermometer read -16. The low is predicted to be -18.

forecast.weather.gov

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William Lewis  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:25:39pm

Freaking weird radio. Listening to the stream of KBEK. Doors, then Prince now Richard Thompson … whiplash radio more like :D

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2017 • 11:40:55pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:50:57am

re: #35 William Lewis

Freaking weird radio. Listening to the stream of KBEK. Doors, then Prince now Richard Thompson … whiplash radio more like :D

Sounds like our Spotify playlist…

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:54:42am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sounds like our Spotify playlist…

This “Spotify.” Is that used to put spots in your laundry?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:57:44am

re: #38 Anymouse

This “Spotify.” Is that used to put spots in your laundry?

It has been a long time since I went and picked out an album or CD to put it on and listen actively.

Closest I come is when I am playing Scrabble with my girlfriend (we do a lot of that, actually, she can beat me nearly half the time) and she hands me her iPhone and asks me to find something on Spotify.

The site then starts compiling a playlist based on your preferences over time and it has come to sound a bit like the one mentioned earlier. Except with more Miles Davis on it.

But I still rarely listen to music of my own accord unless I am driving.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:59:00am

Republicans coming out against repealing the ACA without a replacement plan already in place.

huffingtonpost.com

I believe they were warned about that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:00:37am

re: #40 Anymouse

“When we repeal Obamacare, we need to have the solution in place.”

Except their definition of “solution” is a lot closer to “a Band-Aid over an open wound”.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:03:57am

re: #40 Anymouse

Looks like some of these swine Republican politicians are realizing that their chances of reelection in two years is not a sure thing.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:05:01am

re: #40 Anymouse

They’ve had 8 years to develop a replacement. And they’ve come up with nothing. The Party of No strikes yet again.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:06:01am

re: #43 wheat-dogg

They’ve had 8 years to develop a replacement. And they’ve come up with nothing. The Party of No strikes yet again.

That’s because the Democrats enacted their plan.

Rebrand it GOPCare, call it good.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:07:39am

More:

“I don’t think we can just repeal Obamacare and say we’re going to get the answer two years from now,” Cotton explained. “Look, this is a very complicated problem. Health care is a very complex issue. We haven’t coalesced around a solution for six years, in part because it is so complicated. Kicking the can down the road for a year or two years is not going to make it any easier to solve.”

Just hours before, Ohio Gov. John Kasich issued a similarly stark warning while speaking to reporters.

“There’s room for improvement,” the Republican governor said, according to an account in The Hill, “but to repeal and not to replace, I just want to know what’s going to happen to all those people who find themselves left out in the cold.”

Also raising concerns about a quick repeal vote were Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and John McCain of Arizona, although both stopped short of declaring that repeal and replacement should take place simultaneously.

More at Huffington Post here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:13:48am

re: #42 teleskiguy

Looks like some of these swine Republican politicians are realizing that their chances of reelection in two years is not a sure thing.

Nothin’ to worry about. ACA will still be painted as a Democratic failure. If it were not, why would so many Americans want to get rid of it?

And if the economy tanks, it will be the Democrats’ fault for their failed economic policies that are finally catching up with us.

If gas prices rise: Obama’s fault for not drilling more domestically and building more pipelines.

We are in for at least four more years of this, and possibly eight…

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:44:42am
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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:55:09am
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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:57:32am
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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 2:17:24am

dw.com

The State Department puts Osama bin Laden’s son on terrorism blacklist, citing he is a threat to national security.

I am sure Gen. Flynn and Mr. Trump will get right on this.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 2:25:10am

Wind chill advisories or warnings now cover about a fifth of the USA.

It’s -18 degrees F here now. (Calm winds, so -18 windchill.)

By comparison, its -10 in Fairbanks, Alaska.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 2:27:46am

re: #51 Anymouse

Wind chill advisories or warnings now cover about a fifth of the USA.

It’s -18 degrees F here now. (Calm winds, so -18 windchill.)

By comparison, its -10 in Fairbanks, Alaska.

I ran across language lesson teaching the difference between “weather” and “climate” and pointed out that a lot of Americans do not seem to be aware of the difference, as weather reports like this lead to the standard comments from climate change deniers.

It is actually as cold as it has been all winter here in Germany, down into the teens. But at least sunny and dry. I actually prefer that to 34° and rainy.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 2:34:57am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I ran across language lesson teaching the difference between “weather” and “climate” and pointed out that a lot of Americans do not seem to be aware of the difference, as weather reports like this lead to the standard comments from climate change deniers.

It is actually as cold as it has been all winter here in Germany, down into the teens. But at least sunny and dry. I actually prefer that to 34° and rainy.

Climate science is hard.

Most people prefer simple answers as opposed to difficult decisions, and that makes it a lot easier for those with a vested interest in opposing scientists to make their case.

“There can’t be climate change, it’s -18F (-28C) and it snowed for two days” is a lot easier than the reasons why that might be so. (Also, -18 is way below average for this area.)

That works for just about any sort of science denial: See evolution versus the Bible. “Evolution can’t be true because Genesis says God created the world in six days,” or “Climate change can’t be caused by humans because Revelation says God will destroy the world, not mankind.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 2:37:29am

And a lot of complex science is somewhat counter-intuitive.

I have seen the argument that the ice sheets around Antarctica are spreading.

Yes, because of warming, the continental glaciers are melting into the sea, lowering the salinity of the seawater around the ice shelves and raising its freezing temperature.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 2:43:29am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And a lot of complex science is somewhat counter-intuitive.

I have seen the argument that the ice sheets around Antarctica are spreading.

Yes, because of warming, the continental glaciers are melting into the sea, lowering the salinity of the seawater around the ice shelves and raising its freezing temperature.

We have an agricultural newspaper here that is delivered to everyone twice a week.

I was reading it and there was a letter from a sixteen year-old girl arguing that even if CO2 was rising in the atmosphere, that would be a good thing, because plants like CO2.

I don’t normally publicly go after teenagers (I’d done it one time before several years ago on a girl who wrote our local paper bashing atheists), but I went after her, sticking only to facts (no personal attacks).

Unsurprisingly, the agricultural paper declined to publish my letter, though they did give a reason: I’m not a farmer, so they would not publish my letter. (Gaaa. Whether I was right or not didn’t matter, only that I wasn’t a farmer.)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 2:59:08am

re: #55 Anymouse

We have an agricultural newspaper here that is delivered to everyone twice a week.

I was reading it and there was a letter from a sixteen year-old girl arguing that even if CO2 was rising in the atmosphere, that would be a good thing, because plants like CO2.

I don’t normally publicly go after teenagers (I’d done it one time before several years ago on a girl who wrote our local paper bashing atheists), but I went after her, sticking only to facts (no personal attacks).

Unsurprisingly, the agricultural paper declined to publish my letter, though they did give a reason: I’m not a farmer, so they would not publish my letter. (Gaaa. Whether I was right or not didn’t matter, only that I wasn’t a farmer.)

Start a garden. Then you’ll be a small-scale farmer. Grow some kind of heirloom vegetables and you’ll be small-scale heritage farmer, growing for a niche market.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:02:59am

re: #56 wheat-dogg

Start a garden. Then you’ll be a small-scale farmer. Grow some kind of heirloom vegetables and you’ll be small-scale heritage farmer, growing for a niche market.

I had a garden the year-before-last. Last year I did not because we could not tend it with our planned trip to Canada and Michigan.

I suppose I could say I’m a tumbleweed farmer; we have lots of those that grow in our lawn. (::

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:06:40am

re: #57 Anymouse

I had a garden the year-before-last. Last year I did not because we could not tend it with our planned trip to Canada and Michigan.

I suppose I could say I’m a tumbleweed farmer; we have lots of those that grow in our lawn. (::

I have managed not to kill the potted lily some students gave me three years ago. For me, this is a major achievement. For my long holidays, I can be away for four to five weeks straight. That lily is one tough critter.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:06:54am

Japan recalls ambassador to South Korea over “comfort women” statue.
bbc.com

The statue was erected outside the Japanese Embassy in Busan. Japan argues an agreement with South Korea should have seen the statue removed. South Korea argues that Japan has never adequately dealt with the issues surrounding the 200,000 or so South Korean comfort women forced into sex slavery by the Imperial Japanese Army in WW2.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:10:03am

Texas: Zero days without an international embarrassment.

Texas’s proposed bathroom bill (that also strips power from local governments) is now international news. Great job, conservatives, laser-like focus on jobs any day now… .

bbc.com

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:10:48am

Just when you think things could not get any worse …

If the Republicans manage to enforce this old law, I predict it will go to the courts after federal workers file suit, which will end up costing the government more money in the long run than just paying the workers their regular mandated salaries.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:12:51am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:16:20am

The Orange Yam is awake.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:17:04am

re: #55 Anymouse

Most people prefer simplistic answers, they don’t want to hear that the graph of crop yield vs temperature for every single agricultural product has an inflection point and a very steep backside falloff. This, by the way, is also true of all phytoplankton and cyanobacteria, which are what actually produce the vast majority of our planet’s free oxygen.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:17:11am

re: #61 wheat-dogg

Just when you think things could not get any worse …

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If the Republicans manage to enforce this old law, I predict it will go to the courts after federal workers file suit, which will end up costing the government more money in the long run than just paying the workers their regular mandated salaries.

And you know who they’ll target with this: Anyone who does not conform to GOP Orthodoxy (NOAA on climate science, &c).

Meanwhile, an Ontario woman has been detained in Turkey for allegedly insulting the Turkish president on Facebook.

cbc.ca

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:18:53am

re: #63 wheat-dogg

The Orange Yam is awake.

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:20:48am

A long running rift in the Larsen C ice shelf in Antarctica grew suddenly last month and is only attached by 20km of ice now.

The soon-to-be iceberg is 5,000 square kilometres in area and about 350 metres thick.

bbc.com (with a map of the area including the growth of the rift)

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:21:09am

“The Great Wall”?

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:24:02am

It’s -16F here now. Even thinking about that makes me cold, so I am going to cuddle under a dozen or so blankets with my wife … night, y’all.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:30:09am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:31:33am

re: #66 Dave In Austin

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It’s still there.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:33:55am
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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:39:17am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:41:09am

He’s still going on about the election.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:44:34am

Jeez Donnie. Time to move on. You won the office. Now get to work!

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:47:10am
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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:51:04am

Here’s someone to block if you are on Twitter, mostly repeating fascist or Trump-supporting statements:

SelooverSuzanne

This guy is a wingnut too:

Rambobiggs

Amongst other things, he claims veteran service organisations are “lying” about Donald Trump and Republicans.
(edited because a forty-page Twitter timeline popped up here - you can go look at their insanity on Twitter if you are so inclined, no need to pollute LGF with it)

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 3:59:51am

More fake news about the VA (this time perpetrated by the New York Times);

washingtonmonthly.com

The takeaway part of this;

Donald Trump met with the heads of several monopolistic private health care corporations in Palm Beach on Wednesday. Bloomberg reports that “A person close to Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter said he also participated.” Trump was soliciting their advice on whether he should force the Veterans Health Administration (VA) to outsource more of the care of our nation’s veterans to monopolistic health care corporations. The comic book executive at least had no apparent conflicts of interests.

America’s major veterans groups, including the American Legion, Vietnam Veterans of America, and Paralyzed Veterans of America, which all strenuously oppose any moves to privatize the VA, were not invited. Stay tuned for the rest of the story.

But meanwhile, let’s just dwell for a second on how we got here before it’s too late. In the New York Times’ story about the meeting, reporter Michael D. Shear offered this background: “The Department of Veterans Affairs has struggled to provide timely care to many veterans….News reports in 2014 said that dozens of veterans had died while waiting for care at a V.A. hospital in Phoenix.”

Here we have the New York Times once again mindlessly repeating a devastatingly effective piece of fake news that may yet lead to the dismantling of the VA. It was put in motion by the Republican-controlled House Veterans Affairs Committee during hearings it staged over the summer of 2014. The committee’s chairman, Rep. Jeff Miller, claimed to have uncovered as many as 40 veterans who had died while waiting for care at the Phoenix VA, a claim that was endlessly repeated in the press and that did enormous damage to the image of the VA with the American people.

Yet, as we reported last Spring, this statistic has no more meaning than saying that dozens of people die every day while waiting for an appointment to see their tax accountant or lawyer. Subsequent investigation (pdf) found that six, not forty, patients had experienced “clinically significant delays,” and in not a single case was there evidence that these patients died as a result. Veterans listed on waiting lists usually turned out be waiting for a routine visit with a primary care doc or were already under the care of a VA specialist.

More at the Washington Monthly digging deeper into the information, including the results of a RAND Corporation study. (Hint, the VA continues to be the best large-scale medical operation in the USA)

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:02:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:05:46am

re: #75 wheat-dogg

He’s still going on about the election.

Keith O was right. The man is not normal by any definition.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:06:56am

re: #80 Dave In Austin

Service Guarantees Citizenship! Would you like to learn more?

Service does not guarantee adequate health care for military-related injuries or traumas. You do not want to learn more!!!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:08:13am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Keith O was right. The man is not normal by any definition.

At some level, he’s trying to convince himself that he won. Maybe it’s disbelief, or a guilty conscience. Fact is, there was no “movement” other than the noise at his rallies. He lost the popular vote by 3 million, and won the EVs with only 100K votes or so.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:09:55am

re: #83 wheat-dogg

At some level, he’s trying to convince himself that he won. Maybe it’s disbelief, or a guilty conscience. Fact is, there was no “movement” other than the noise at his rallies. He lost the popular vote by 3 million, and won the EVs with only 100K votes or so.

What he calls “passion” among his supporters is what a lot of us might call “inarticulate rage”.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:12:27am

He’s still going at it.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:13:34am

Astronauts on an EVA to fix power systems on the ISS.

nasa.gov

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:15:29am

re: #85 wheat-dogg

He’s still going at it.

A lot of people will be going to DC that day to Make America Great, but not necessarily in the sense that he has in mind…

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:18:34am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of people will be going to DC that day to Make America Great, but not necessarily in the sense that he has in mind…

When was the last time a new president was booed at the inauguration? It could happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:20:31am

re: #88 wheat-dogg

When was the last time a new president was booed at the inauguration? It could happen.

If that happens, it will be branded a total lack of respect for America and its flag and its institutions, and further proof that liberals are intolerant hatemongers.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:32:35am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If that happens, it will be branded a total lack of respect for America and its flag and its institutions, and further proof that liberals are intolerant hatemongers.

Unlike Joe “You Lie” Wilson, who is a patriot. /s

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:34:36am

re: #85 wheat-dogg

He’s still going at it.

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I hear some folks are going to be passing out 4,200 doobies. Wish I could go—almost. But being high wouldn’t make it better.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:34:57am

It’s now -18 here. I hear those blankets calling me… .

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:35:49am

Donny’s new BFFs

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:36:25am

re: #92 Anymouse

It’s now -18 here. I hear those blankets calling me… .

Don’t go to bed with no price on your head…. Keep your eye on the sparrow.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:36:38am

Ping times are taking longer than usual with my Internet service tonight.

It is so cold the electrons are slowing down in the wires for my telephone service. That might also make telephone calls sound weird.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:37:38am

re: #94 Barefoot Grin

Don’t go to bed with no price on your head…. Keep your eye on the sparrow.

The sparrows are now frozen yard ornaments in my elm tree.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:39:07am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

How the heck would Wikileaks know whether the information that NBC broadcast was classified?

Oh they don’t, they made that part up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:43:50am

re: #97 Anymouse

How the heck would Wikileaks know whether the information that NBC broadcast was classified?

Oh they don’t, they made that part up.

The FSB told them.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:48:09am

Now he’s going on about Arnold hosting Celebrity Apprentice and getting lower ratings than Donnie did.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:50:03am

Reminder: Today he gets his intel briefing.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:50:42am

Have you ever noticed that Trump’s Twitter account has a shit-ton of followers but only 46 likes?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:51:47am

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

Reminder: Today he gets his intel briefing.

Wonder whether he’ll tweet about it afterward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:53:40am

re: #102 wheat-dogg

Wonder whether he’ll tweet about it afterward.

He might get bored and start tweeting during the briefing…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:55:30am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:56:33am

Was “Celebrity Apprentice” ever the #1 show on TV at any time?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 4:59:35am

re: #105 The Vicious Babushka

Was “Celebrity Apprentice” ever the #1 show on TV at any time?

Seriously doubt it

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:21:53am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. My subscribed news services are running at 100% Trump/GOP tax schemes, including the annual effort to abolish the IRS and implement the Fair Tax.

That’s probably the least likely plan to have a chance of getting implemented, but that’s not saying much.

Estate tax planners are warning clients that they basically have no clue what will happen, and even if the federal estate tax is abolished, there’s no word on what happens at the state level since many states have a piggyback/sponge tax that directly refers to the federal estate tax. If the feds abolish the estate tax (a giveaway to the rich, and shifts revenue burdens to everyone else, or results in service cuts to everyone but the rich), states that don’t decouple from the federal repeal would find themselves repealing their own estate tax. Many states aren’t in great fiscal shape to take that kind of hit, so they’ll change things.

Then there are the corporations who don’t know what the hell Trump is talking about with the taxes at the border nonsense, but are “building it where they are selling it” as though that means anything other than the usual opportunism. The same companies that would build factories overseas because it’s cheaper also know that it can be cheaper to build them here in the US depending on other factors (like transportation costs, time to market, etc.) But with Trump savaging companies on Twitter for the hell of it, companies may preemptively try to duck and cover - even as they continue offshoring business or engage in other tax tactics that reduce their US tax obligations.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:22:50am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:23:28am

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

In which PEOTUS refers to himself as “the ratings machine” while knocking his reality show replacement.

Isn’t he still an executive producer on that show?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:27:32am

re: #109 Timothy Watson

Isn’t he still an executive producer on that show?

Yes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:28:07am

He is actually doing “Celebrity Apprentice: The White House” right now.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:29:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:31:15am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Those ratings are rigged! Who are you going to believe, a bunch of (((media moguls))) or a True Ratings Machine?

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:38:29am

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

Deflection of the day…… He has to talk to the grown-ups today. So this is the “Squirrel!!!” moment.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:38:59am
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jeffreyw  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:45:32am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:48:38am

re: #116 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

cedar waxwings eating rowan berries…and image I still recall from my bird book as a kid

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:52:18am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:52:49am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:52:51am

re: #63 wheat-dogg

The Orange Yam is awake.

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And they will greet us with flowers and cheering. Heard it before, still paying for it.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:55:00am

re: #120 Eventual Carrion

And they will greet us with flowers and cheering. Heard it before, still paying for it.

But he’ll never stand on the deck of an aircraft carrier. Trump’s afraid of boats.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:56:38am

re: #121 wheat-dogg

But he’ll never stand on the deck of an aircraft carrier. Trump’s afraid of boats.

He’ll make Mexico build him one on dry land.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:57:03am

re: #121 wheat-dogg

But he’ll never stand on the deck of an aircraft carrier. Trump’s afraid of boats.

But can he rock a flight suit like GWB?

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:58:03am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

But can he rock a flight suit like GWB?

With a football stuffed codpiece, to quote Jon Stewart?

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:58:48am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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And some of us have been saying that he’s mentally unstable since he entered the race back in June 2015. It’s been clear for at least that long he’s not quite right in the head. Memory issues, serial liar, inability to comprehend or reason. Disjointed thinking. Etc.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:58:50am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

cedar waxwings eating rowan berries…and image I still recall from my bird book as a kid

I’ve got flocks of them as well as robins hanging around the yard right now. The cedars are full of berries (and pollen… argh!).

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:58:51am

(Tweet hidden for obvious verbiage content.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:59:39am

re: #124 Timothy Watson

With a football stuffed codpiece, to quote Jon Stewart?

Gold lamé with his initials!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:59:39am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

But can he rock a flight suit like GWB?

Do they even make them that size? Navy pilots have weight restrictions, IIRC.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:02:52am

re: #129 wheat-dogg

Do they even make them that size? Navy pilots have weight restrictions, IIRC.

He will have a gold one with sequins on it, just like Elvis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:04:02am

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

He will have a gold one with sequins on it, just like Elvis.

and an extra-large codpiece…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:04:23am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and an extra-large codpiece…

I just threw up in my mouth.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:06:53am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and an extra-large codpiece…

Don’t forget the finger extensions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:08:10am

re: #133 Dave In Austin

Don’t forget the finger extensions.

the codfish fingers?

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:10:06am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the codfish fingers?

Those would be FingerCods..

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:10:56am

THen he could go about his Codly day…….

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:12:06am

re: #124 Timothy Watson

With a football stuffed codpiece, to quote Jon Stewart?

Make sure it’s a USFL league-approved football. ////

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:12:27am

Darth and Teleski,
Did you guys see the lift rescue? poor guy was dangling by his neck on a strap, some passerby who is a pro acrobat/slackline guy climbed up and cut the guy loose. Who dropped about 10 feet into snow and will be fine. More time and that guy was a goner.

wcvb.com

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:16:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:18:20am

re: #139 lawhawk

Make AmERica Great

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:20:39am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Make AmERica Great

*Hums ER theme*

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:22:26am

Ok Been up all nite at the ol’ DC. Time to hit the rack for a few hours. Sweet Dreams.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:28:01am

Things that once seen, can’t be unseen.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:28:56am

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

Gold lamé lame with his initials!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:32:02am

re: #144 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Gold lamé lame with his initials

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Birth Control Works  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:33:41am
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Birth Control Works  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:34:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:35:08am

The point is, there are people who are not only opposed to Planned parenthood, they are opposed to the very notion of planning parenthood.

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weave  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:35:57am

Ah, Drudge….

Record 95,102,000 Americans Not in Labor Force; Up 18% Since Obama Took Office…

Since Baby Boomers will continue to retire even during Trump’s presidency, this is going to keep going up. But of course starting January 20th, Drudge will stop talking about that.

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Birth Control Works  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:36:54am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The point is, there are people who are not only opposed to Planned parenthood, they are opposed to the very notion of women planning parenthood.

ftfy

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:41:13am

LOL I got stuck in this traffic shitshow when I went to LA last year:

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:46:46am

re: #138 Unshaken Defiance

Darth and Teleski,
Did you guys see the lift rescue? poor guy was dangling by his neck on a strap, some passerby who is a pro acrobat/slackline guy climbed up and cut the guy loose. Who dropped about 10 feet into snow and will be fine. More time and that guy was a goner.

wcvb.com

There’s a long antenna that the guy should have hit going around the bullwheel and the chair should have stopped before he got over the ramp. It’s set close enough to the chair that small children will set it off with their feet.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:47:25am

re: #149 weave

Demographics, how do they work. Baby boomers are retiring from workforce, as they approach retirement age. This is easily computed with actuarial tables, which are widely available.

The workforce participation rate will continue to dip as more and more people retire, which is actually a sign of a strong economy - because those retiring are more secure in their retirement, rather than hanging on for years past the official retirement age because they can’t afford to retire.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:50:54am

re: #153 lawhawk

Demographics, how do they work. Baby boomers are retiring from workforce, as they approach retirement age. This is easily computed with actuarial tables, which are widely available.

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The workforce participation rate will continue to dip as more and more people retire, which is actually a sign of a strong economy - because those retiring are more secure in their retirement, rather than hanging on for years past the official retirement age because they can’t afford to retire.

Another large cohort shrinking from the labor force are teenagers 16-19. For some reason wingnuts think this is a bad thing. Oh oh I know the reason: because they think teenagers who “lack experience” should be paid less than adults!

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Birth Control Works  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:52:02am

nead moar coffee bbl

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:52:33am
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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:58:35am

re: #156 The Vicious Babushka

It really is not illegal for the president to release intelligence information.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:02:09am

They should include at least one verifiable bit of false info to Trump today to see if it makes it to Russia.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:02:38am

re: #158 Barefoot Grin

They should include at least one verifiable bit of false info to Trump today to see if it makes it to Russia.

Canary trap?

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Bass Reeves  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:04:12am

re: #158 Barefoot Grin

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:06:01am

Interesting.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:07:36am

re: #70 Dave In Austin

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Good use Dave!!!

Keep it up. Someday I hope to see one of my ‘shops come up in a Google search.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:10:15am

re: #30 teleskiguy

Dems some old-ass guitars.

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You can actually pick up those old steel guitars for pretty reasonable prices, compared to the regular guitars.

I shop at a site called reverb.com, and there are always a ton of old lap steels for not much money.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:13:22am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:15:03am
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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:17:09am

re: #99 wheat-dogg

Now he’s going on about Arnold hosting Celebrity Apprentice and getting lower ratings than Donnie did.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Wow, the ratings are in and Arnold Schwarzenegger got “swamped” (or destroyed) by comparison to the ratings machine, DJT. So much for….
7:34 AM - 6 Jan 2017

Donny needs a constant IV drip of accolades to maintain life.

Which means if the media and the citizens start to hammer him with constant criticism he may shrivel up and die.

You all know what to do, right?

Oh yeah…forgot…Good COLD Morning!

Brrrr. Columbus 10° with wind making it feel like -1°. A few days ago 55°.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:18:55am

re: #105 The Vicious Babushka

Was “Celebrity Apprentice” ever the #1 show on TV at any time?

In reality…or in Donny’s bird brain?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:19:54am

re: #167 ObserverArt

In reality…or in Donny’s bird brain?

It ranked #7 during the first season, then plunged bigly after that. Sad!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:21:19am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

It ranked #7 during the first season, then plunged bigly after that. Sad!

Those ratings are all rigged! Who ya gonna trust, some (((media mogul))) or the Ratings Machine?

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KingKenrod  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:21:25am

LOL Wikileaks is upset about someone leaking information to the press.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:22:49am

re: #170 KingKenrod

LOL Wikileaks is upset about someone leaking information to the press.

Just like Trump: they get upset when it is not ALL ABOUT THEM.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:23:12am

re: #108 Timothy Watson

Timothy Watson @timothy_watson
Better be careful, Obama still has 13 days to steal your guns!1!!! richmond.com
8:21 AM - 6 Jan 2017

All President crow about what they will do on day one.

Be wary of what Obama will do on day 2920!!!

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:24:00am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

He is actually doing “Celebrity Apprentice: The White House” right now.

Wait ‘til he sees those ratings.

Tweet Storm City!

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:29:09am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and an extra-large codpiece…

Hmmm.

Maybe I should do another “Stick a Sock in It” graphic like Mick Jagger use to do for his stage image.

Hmmm.

Maybe not.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:32:19am

re: #155 Birth Control Works

nead moar coffee bbl

And I need some warm tea…

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:49:41am

re: #170 KingKenrod

LOL Wikileaks is upset about someone leaking information to the press.

I may have missed this reference…got a link, post here, tweet?

This is too ripe to not have record.

EDIT: Hey, where did everyone go???

This is embarrassing…I was having fun with all the posts…yikes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:51:30am

re: #176 ObserverArt

I may have missed this reference…got a link, post here, tweet?

This is too ripe to not have record.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:55:25am

I know Darth and a couple other people were wondering what the big storms hitting the West Coast might do to snowpack and downstream folks.

Well, Yosemite’s warning of significant flooding on the Merced River:

6 feet above flood stage? That’d be the highest level since the 1997 floods, which were devastating to the region.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:59:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:05:31am

hmmmmm

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:07:33am

Hard, sad truths in this thread

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:12:15am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:17:08am

Things that come out of Corey Stewart’s mouth:

“Virginia has suffered under Terry McAuliffe, who is bent on making ownership in Virginia so onerous that Virginians won’t participate,” Stewart said. “But the truth is a well-armed society is a polite society, and here in Virginia, we’re polite.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:20:14am

re: #183 Timothy Watson

making ownership in Virginia so onerous that Virginians won’t participate

Yes, especially for former criminals and the mentally disturbed…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:20:21am

boo fucking hoo

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:20:22am

re: #181 The Vicious Babushka

Hard, sad truths in this thread

What are the low points for those of us without twitter access?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:21:27am
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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:21:56am

re: #88 wheat-dogg

When was the last time a new president was booed at the inauguration? It could happen.

Dubya was booed pretty badly, IIRC. I think they actually called off the traditional out-of-the-limo walk for the last few blocks and got back in the car because the crowd was booing them so badly.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:22:32am

re: #186 Belafon

What are the low points for those of us without twitter access?

The announcement about Russian election interference will not stop the inauguration or prevent Trump from fucking up this country beyond recognition.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:23:03am

re: #186 Belafon

What are the low points for those of us without twitter access?

You can still click on the date, and it will take you to that thread. twitter isn’t closed to those of us who don’t tweet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:23:27am

re: #188 makeitstop

Dubya was booed pretty badly, IIRC. I think they actually called off the traditional out-of-the-limo walk for the last few blocks and got back in the car because the crowd was booing them so badly.

But Dubya, whatever else one could say about him, was not a malignant narcissist whose initial instinct is to publicly demolish his critics.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:23:35am

re: #183 Timothy Watson

Things that come out of Corey Stewart’s mouth:

Such bullshit and Corey knows it. It’s not the government’s job to advocate people buy guns,

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:24:21am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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boo fucking hoo

Waaaah, my name’s Donald and i’m a Russian puppet and I don’t like the truth about me coming out. Maybe you shouldn’t have ran for President and let the adults do their jobs, Donald.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:25:19am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Such bullshit and Corey knows it. It’s not the government’s job to advocate people buy guns,

The point is that God has a hard-on for fossil fuels and the 2nd A and it is government’s job to make sure we all have unrestricted access to plenty of both.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:25:42am

re: #188 makeitstop

Dubya was booed pretty badly, IIRC. I think they actually called off the traditional out-of-the-limo walk for the last few blocks and got back in the car because the crowd was booing them so badly.

I was among them. I admit it, I wasn’t happy with what we had done but at least W was acting in what he thought was the country’s national interest. Trump meanwhile has his head up Russia’s fat asshole.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:25:46am

re: #190 retired cynic

You can still click on the date, and it will take you to that thread. twitter isn’t closed to those of us who don’t tweet.

Twitter is blocked at work.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:26:10am

re: #186 Belafon

What are the low points for those of us without twitter access?

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:26:32am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Such bullshit and Corey knows it. It’s not the government’s job to advocate people buy guns,

And I posted a link upthread about how sales in Virginia have doubled since Obama became President, unfortunately, don’t have numbers for each year of T-Mac’s governorship.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:27:12am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The point is that God has a hard-on for fossil fuels and the 2nd A and it is government’s job to make sure we all have unrestricted access to plenty of both.

It’s going to be a very interesting election here in VA this fall especially since Periello jumped in on the Democratic side. I like Tom Periello, I’ve met him unlike Ralph Northam but I really think he should have gone after his old House Seat if he was going to throw his hat in the ring. That said, I have a lot of respect for Periello, he was in a competitive district, voted for ACA, and stood by it.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:27:18am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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boo fucking hoo

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:27:55am

re: #198 Timothy Watson

And I posted a link upthread about how sales in Virginia have doubled since Obama became President, unfortunately, don’t have numbers for each year of T-Mac’s governorship.

It’s just such crap.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:28:18am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

The announcement about Russian election interference will not stop the inauguration or prevent Trump from fucking up this country beyond recognition.

We knew that. The point of talking about the Russian interference is to point out that it’s happening, that a foreign country is actively trying to screw us over, and the make it obvious that Trump is playing along.

I like being realistic, at the same time “realists” need to make sure they don’t go into “we can’t do anything” territory.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:29:27am

re: #197 sagehen

OK. That’s useful. I see a lot of people and groups getting active now. I do think it’s good that everyone push each other to do something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:32:19am

WikiLeaks is still mad:

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:33:49am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

WikiLeaks is still mad:

Still has more credibility than WikiLeaks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:34:45am

Can I just say this though? I never thought too highly of Wikileaks. I took a couple classes on International Relations as an undergrad and my mom is a retired DOD official. I feel I always understood better than most people my age and on the left why countries need to be able to have secrets. Even before Assenge was revealed to be a bit of a creep, I just could never see him as a folk hero who was doing what he was doing for the public good.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:36:51am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But Dubya, whatever else one could say about him, was not a malignant narcissist whose initial instinct is to publicly demolish his critics.

True. I was just responding to Wheat’s question as to the last time a prez was booed at his own inauguration.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:38:46am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:39:14am

There’s a part of the left that I think while perhaps well meaning is awfully naive which is why I think many saw Assenge as a hero at first. Assenge is no hero. He has a goal and it’s detrimental to our country and many democracies throughout the world.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:40:44am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You know, I’m old enough to remember when there was actually some rumblings that the Republicans would try to repeal the natural born requirement so they could run Arnie. I found that laughable but after Trump……….and the fact that Arnie actually would have elected experience, I just don’t know.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:41:39am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sick burn.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:41:52am

My song for the next two years:

Alan Parsons - Turn It Up

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:42:05am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Can I just say this though? I never thought too highly of Wikileaks. I took a couple classes on International Relations as an undergrad and my mom is a retired DOD official. I feel I always understood better than most people my age and on the left why countries need to be able to have secrets. Even before Assenge was revealed to be a bit of a creep, I just could never see him as a folk hero who was doing what he was doing for the public good.

Revealing state secrets is something to be done most carefully and only to the extent necessary to prevent violations of the law.

A lot of Wikileaks guys seemed to do it out of gleeful maliciousness and released information that was simply embarrassing, and led to lives being endangered unnecessarily.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:42:58am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Revealing state secrets is something to be done most carefully and only to the extent necessary to prevent violations of the law.

A lot of Wikileaks guys seemed to do it out of gleeful maliciousness and released information that was simply embarrassing, and led to lives being endangered unnecessarily.

Exactly. What WL did is different from what Daniel Ellsburg did with the Pentagon Papers.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:44:44am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Can I just say this though? I never thought too highly of Wikileaks. I took a couple classes on International Relations as an undergrad and my mom is a retired DOD official. I feel I always understood better than most people my age and on the left why countries need to be able to have secrets. Even before Assenge was revealed to be a bit of a creep, I just could never see him as a folk hero who was doing what he was doing for the public good.

Well, I was a bit of a Glenn Greenwald acolyte back in the day so I was inclined to think favorably of them. But my judgment of them, and others, has changed in the past few years. Particularly as it has become clear, or more clear, what, or at least who, they are working on behalf of. Maybe it wasn’t that way when they started. But even if they weren’t originally a Russian-mole like organization, they were still reckless, without any accountability.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:45:30am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Revealing state secrets is something to be done most carefully and only to the extent necessary to prevent violations of the law.

A lot of Wikileaks guys seemed to do it out of gleeful maliciousness and released information that was simply embarrassing, and led to lives being endangered unnecessarily.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:45:43am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

Exactly. What WL did is different from what Daniel Ellsburg did with the Pentagon Papers.

The two are often compared, but one was a serious journalist who took great care about how and what he revealed, the other is a bunch of self-styled V-for-Vendetta folk heroes who truly see themselves above and beyond the law.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:46:05am

re: #215 Sir John Barron

Well, I was a bit of a Glenn Greenwald acolyte back in the day so I was inclined to think favorably of them. But my judgment of them, and others, has changed in the past few years. Particularly as it has become clear, or more clear, what, or at least who, they are working on behalf of. Maybe it wasn’t that way when they started. But even if they weren’t originally a Russian-mole like organization, they were still reckless, without any accountability.

Correct.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:46:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:46:55am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The two are often compared, but one was a serious journalist who took great care about how and what he revealed, the other is a bunch of self-styled V-for-Vendetta folk heroes who truly see themselves above and beyond the law.

I believe Ellsburg was an analyst at RAND not a journalist by trade but yes, he was careful at what he revealed unlike the WL folks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:47:42am

re: #216 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s another one I never saw as a hero. There were legit concerns about the NSA but Snowden handled it terribly.

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electrotek  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:47:43am

Guess she’s got something to prove after converting:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:48:42am

re: #222 electrotek

Guess she’s got something to prove after converting:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:48:43am

re: #222 electrotek

Jenna Jameson, newly Jewish, launches anti-Islam rant: ‘I don’t care about your false prophet’

and we don’t care about your folk tales, either!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:49:39am

It’s great if you find happiness with a religion or a new one but no need to be a dick about it. Jenna’s fine to pursue her spiritual journey but there’s a way to do that without being a dick.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:50:58am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Can I just say this though? I never thought too highly of Wikileaks. I took a couple classes on International Relations as an undergrad and my mom is a retired DOD official. I feel I always understood better than most people my age and on the left why countries need to be able to have secrets. Even before Assenge was revealed to be a bit of a creep, I just could never see him as a folk hero who was doing what he was doing for the public good.

What pisses me off about the whole Wikileaks, Russian hack thing is the continued crying by everyone about the damn DNC and Clinton emails.

Does anyone think for one little second that if we had access to RNC, Trump’s, Sander’s, Cruz’s, Kasich’s, Carly’s, Jeb’s…etc. campaign staff emails there would be all kinds of stuff there that would have pissed off the other side and their supporters?

It’s all Hillary bad…Wasserman-Schultz bad. Same as it ever was.

My gawd…it is freaking politics.

This past election was unprecedented for clueless stupidity by a lot of people.

And everyone forgot the first DNC glitch was Bernie’s people using data from the Clinton campaign they should not have had access.

Oh the outrage!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:51:03am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:51:24am

re: #222 electrotek

Guess she’s got something to prove after converting:

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Go away Jenna, we don’t want you. Take Ivanka with you.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:51:41am

re: #222 electrotek

The former porn legend, who converted to Judaism last year ahead of her upcoming marriage to Israeli boyfriend Lior Bitton, spent the better part of the week defending her attacks against Islam and “spending all [her] free time” watching YouTube videos about the Quran by Christian apologist David Wood.

Uh…and Jesus wasn’t a false prophet/messiah if you’re Jewish?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:52:29am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

It’s great if you find happiness with a religion or a new one but no need to be a dick about it. Jenna’s fine to pursue her spiritual journey but there’s a way to do that without being a dick.

Some people just cannot enjoy their religion without mocking, belittling or even persecuting others.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:52:34am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You tell ‘em Arnold!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:52:53am

re: #226 ObserverArt

What pisses me off about the whole Wikileaks, Russian hack thing is the continued crying by everyone about the damn DNC and Clinton emails.

Does anyone think for one little second that if we had access to RNC, Trump’s, Sander’s, Cruz’s, Kasich’s, Carly’s, Jeb’s…etc. campaign staff emails there would be all kinds of stuff there that would have pissed off the other side and their supporters?

It’s all Hillary bad…Wasserman-Schultz bad. Same as it ever was.

My gawd…it is freaking politics.

This past election was unprecedented for clueless stupidity by a lot of people.

And everyone forgot the first DNC glitch was Bernie’s people using data from the Clinton campaign they should not have had access too.

Oh the outrage!!!

Or Sanders emails. But yes, if the Republican candidates, Bernie’s, or the RNC emails had been revealed. You’d see the same thing. People acting like politicians. But yeah it’s almost like it was a scandal that the Clinton campaign gasp wanted to win. The audacity!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:53:44am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ll say it again for him then Kellyanne. You and your pal Trump are Russian pawns at the very least. You own it. You decided to work for this guy even though you had apparently seen him for what he actually was in the spring. You’re nothing but a hack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:53:54am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:53:56am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Don’t you tweet this again, that Trump is sheltering Russia. Don’t you tweet that again. Trump is not sheltering Russia. Don’t tweet that again or post it again. Trump is not sheltering Russia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:54:30am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Or Sanders emails. But yes, if the Republican candidates, Bernie’s, or the RNC emails had been revealed. You’d see the same thing. People acting like politicians. But yeah it’s almost like it was a scandal that the Clinton campaign gasp wanted to win. The audacity!

Being stripped naked is slightly less embarrassing if the others around you are also stripped down.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:54:48am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Some people just cannot enjoy their religion without mocking, belittling or even persecuting others.

Yep, it sucks because religion should be a very personal path. I’m not religious myself but if it makes someone happy, I’m okay with it. Just don’t use your religion to be a dick.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:55:17am

re: #60 Anymouse

Texas: Zero days without an international embarrassment.

Texas’s proposed bathroom bill (that also strips power from local governments) is now international news. Great job, conservatives, laser-like focus on jobs any day now… .

bbc.com

Late to the party on this, but you mentioned Texas so my ears perked up.

Husband and i were talking about this last night. I said it won’t pass at the state level.

“Why not? They’re freaks.”

“Because above all, Texas government is about a healthy bidness climate (ht: Molly Ivins). This bill will hurt business in Texas. My own very large company will throw an absolute fit over it. And when it comes down to business vs. any other interest, including the right-wing religious trolls, business is going to win every time. Period.”

That’s the best way to understand Texas…this is a state that always will put corporations and business interests first. Deregulation, low taxes, incentives, it’s all about attracting and keeping businesses and the money flowing. No matter how crazy the rural Conservative nuts get, they will be ignored when it means their agenda impacts the happiness of our corporations.

There is a reason Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio are in the top 10 cities for size in the U.S. Corporations, headquarters, and the jobs they produce are there.

Remember, this is the place where a guy tried to introduce legislation to control high school cheerleader outfits and routines because he felt they were too suggestive. We also have laws about the ownership of dildos. Because Texas Legislature.

I asked Husband when the legislative session ends in Texas, because it will get NUTS and embarrassing over here. We will so thoroughly embarrass ourselves. “Not sure.” “Well, i need to find out because i can’t take the Texas Legislature in session on top of the rest of this country’s crazy. Just get the padded cell ready.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:56:37am

re: #222 electrotek

Guess she’s got something to prove after converting:

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Why the hell would anyone listen to Jenna Jameson???

Gawddamn our country grows more and more ignorant daily.

Sad!

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:57:02am

The GOP is intent on holding as many hearings in as short a period of time to not only blunt the criticism from each individual pick, but to overwhelm the Democrats trying to challenge the picks on objective reality grounds - their abject lack of qualifications for the position, the conflicts of interest, or intent to dismember the very entities they’re looking to run, and all the protections provided by them (as with the EPA, Interior Dept., etc.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:57:39am

STFU donnie

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:58:33am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

STFU donnie

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oh now he wants an investigation of something? But not Russian hacking. I see.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:58:41am

re: #239 ObserverArt

Why the hell would anyone listen to Jenna Jameson???

Well, not in this context.

Dawddamn our country grows more and more ignorant daily.

Sad!

No doubt. Trump’s the proof that having access to more right wing news sources rots the brain.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:58:51am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

STFU donnie

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Oh wow he’s getting his “intelligence” briefings from Wikileaks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:59:07am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Yep, it sucks because religion should be a very personal path. I’m not religious myself but if it makes someone happy, I’m okay with it. Just don’t use your religion to be a dick.

But if your religion makes exclusive claim to Truth and Salvation, then it is your religious duty to proclaim it!

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BlueGrl21  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:59:54am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

STFU donnie

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

Donnie, get ready for your term as a pseudo-President to be exactly like this. You pissed off the intelligence community. You will pay dearly as they investigate and then release to the press vs. you.

Great decision to attack the intelligence community, dumbass.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:00:41am

re: #238 BlueGrl21

Remember, this is the place where a guy tried to introduce legislation to control high school cheerleader outfits and routines because he felt they were too suggestive. We also have laws about the ownership of dildos. Because Texas Legislature.

A state that gives us the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders but then seeks to prevent young women from emulating them. Really sums up what is wrong with a lot of conservatives.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:01:41am

re: #242 Sir John Barron

oh now he wants an investigation of something? But not Russian hacking. I see.

That is a swift move, actually. The man knows how to manipulate media.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:02:16am

re: #240 lawhawk

The GOP is intent on holding as many hearings in as short a period of time to not only blunt the criticism from each individual pick, but to overwhelm the Democrats trying to challenge the picks on objective reality grounds - their abject lack of qualifications for the position, the conflicts of interest, or intent to dismember the very entities they’re looking to run, and all the protections provided by them (as with the EPA, Interior Dept., etc.)

Some intrepid people could put cheat sheets together about each candidate before the hearings.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:03:17am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Admittedly he’s no stranger to the Rubber vs. Glue rhetorical technique, but he’s also not smart enough to think up these memes on his own.

Russkieleaks already responded with a variant of this idea earlier today, so the fix is in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:03:19am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:04:12am

I remember thinking how we sure dodged a bullet with Sarah Palin not being elected VP in 2008.

I guess the universe just had to get back at us.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:04:53am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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And if he did, you assholes would still deny it because Julian is a Putin lackey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:06:01am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

And if he did, you assholes would still deny it because Julian is a Putin lackey.

They would edit it beyond recognition

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:06:09am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:06:59am

I’m expecting the Trump transition team to offer Julian & Snowflake some official positions very soon.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:07:16am

re: #252 Sir John Barron

I remember thinking how we sure dodged a bullet with Sarah Palin not being elected VP in 2008.

I guess the universe just had to get back at us.

Yep. Ever hear the story of the guy whose would be brother in law came at him with a gun and shot some tree near him and how when he was chopping down that tree years later, the bullet became unlodged and killed him? I remember talking with my cousin who lives in the UK when she visited in March. She was telling me that the world would lose a lot of respect for the U.S. if it was even close between Trump and the Dem nominee let alone if he won. Sigh. I am proud of her though. She’s shown a welcoming attitude towards the refugees they’ve gotten in the UK through both her words and actions.

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electrotek  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:07:41am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

It’s great if you find happiness with a religion or a new one but no need to be a dick about it. Jenna’s fine to pursue her spiritual journey but there’s a way to do that without being a dick.

She reminds me of a ex-Jewish woman named Margaret Marcus (Maryam Jameelah) whose conversion to Islam and relocation to Lahore, Pakistan in the 1960s made her into a rabid anti-Semite.

How did Margaret Marcus — a middle-class Jew from Larchmont, N.Y. — become Islamic ideologue Maryam Jameelah?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:08:37am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s the truth. Obamacare doesn’t poll as well as ACA or whatever the state is calling it. That’s why even Pence calls it Obamacare. They know their stupid base will likely reflexatively oppose anything with Obama’s name on it.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:08:45am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is a swift move, actually. The man knows how to manipulate media.

oh he sure does.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:09:15am

re: #258 electrotek

She reminds me of a ex-Jewish woman named Margaret Marcus (Maryam Jameelah) whose conversion to Islam and relocation to Lahore, Pakistan in the 1960s made her into a rabid anti-Semite.

How did Margaret Marcus — a middle-class Jew from Larchmont, N.Y. — become Islamic ideologue Maryam Jameelah?

Convert’s zeal. Jesus.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:09:19am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A state that gives us the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders but then seeks to prevent young women from emulating them. Really sums up what is wrong with a lot of conservatives.

Now to be fair, the guy’s bill went down in flames and ridicule, so we at least have our priorities straight when it comes to our cheerleaders.

I may out myself a bit with this….but that’s ok.

Do you remember a few years ago in Texas we had a scandal where a woman tried to hire a hitman to off the mother of a girl that made cheerleader instead of her daughter? “Texas Cheerleader Murder Plot.” They made a movie out of it with Holly Hunter. Link

The woman that was the target of the murder plot, Verna Heath, is my aunt by marriage. My family was in the thick of the most insane Texas cultural idiocy….cheerleading and football.

It’s obviously died down, but i still occasionally hear my husband yell from the other room, “Honey! Your crazy family is on T.V. again!” They still run specials and documentaries about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:10:28am

re: #262 BlueGrl21

Now to be fair, the guy’s bill went down in flames and ridicule, so we at least have our priorities straight when it comes to our cheerleaders.

Because we want some sex to go with our violence.

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electrotek  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:10:33am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Convert’s zeal. Jesus.

She’s the splitting image of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, or the number of former Muslims who embraced Evangelical Christianity and became strident Islamophobes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:11:13am

re: #264 electrotek

She’s the splitting image of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, or the number of former Muslims who embraced Evangelical Christianity and became strident Islamophobes.

Yeah sounds that way.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:12:13am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pink Freud @alaskarebel
Conway to CNN’s Cuomo: Trump is not sheltering Russia ‘and don’t you say that again’ politico.com
10:55 AM - 6 Jan 2017]

Looks like I need a series of ‘shops. Number 2.

And see you all later…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:13:53am
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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:14:05am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Some people just cannot enjoy their religion without mocking, belittling or even persecuting others.

Isn’t that what being “righteous” is all about?

Root word: Right.

As in I am right and you are not.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:16:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:17:31am

US Army tanks arrive in Germany to be moved into Eastern Europe “to maintain peace and prosperity” & protect allies.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:18:31am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

STFU donnie

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Proof that he’s an avid follower of WikiLeaks’ Twitter account.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:20:00am

Meanwhile, Trump twits spam the thread with their noxious mug ads. Liberal tears? Yeah, who cares about national security and that the Putin picked pumpkin has Russian fingerprints all over his cabal of cronies. Patriots? Patriots for what country? Not the US, that’s for sure.

Yeah, patriots my ass.

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(alpuz)  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:20:02am

re: #269 lawhawk

Yeah, and it was an istock photo with some photoshop blending. There’s a bunch of them just like it. So yeah, they really fucked that one up.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:21:14am

But his sperm lives on and on and on and on

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:22:49am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:22:49am

re: #274 Stanley Sea

But his sperm lives on and on and on and on

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That was a powerful film. I watched it with my brother and sister in law while she was expecting. They both decided they wouldn’t take their daughter to places like SeaWorld because of it and it made me rethink my childhood dream of being able to swim with dolphins at one of those places.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:23:56am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:25:23am

re: #243 lawhawk

Well, not in this context.

Listen to Jenna…is that what they call it now???

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:25:45am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Obama doesn’t get the respect he deserves

More to the point.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:25:52am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What is the intelligence that Trump is complaining about having leaked?

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:26:42am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

For a black man, it would have needed to be at least 264K to get the same response a white man gets for 132K.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:28:06am

re: #281 Belafon

For a black man, it would have needed to be at least 264K to get the same response a white man gets for 132K.

It would 158.4K (according to the 3/5th rule)

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:28:09am

re: #272 lawhawk

The Obama admin/CIA is illegally funneling TOP SECRET//COMINT information to NBC for political reasons before PEOTUS even gets to read it.

— WikiLeaks

These guys. No subtlety at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:28:40am

re: #280 Sir John Barron

What is the intelligence that Trump is complaining about having leaked?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:30:07am
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electrotek  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:34:03am

re: #239 ObserverArt

Why the hell would anyone listen to Jenna Jameson???

Gawddamn our country grows more and more ignorant daily.

Sad!

I got called out back in October for a comment about her on here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:36:16am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:39:25am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And again, what’s weird, why not just accept this if you’re Trump? Say it didn’t influence or cause his election, but condemn it nonetheless. Say you’ll defend all Americans and American political parties against outside interference. But that’s too much for him, apparently.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:41:13am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It would 158.4K (according to the 3/5th rule)

The 3/5 rule applies sometimes; in this case he’s using the “twice as good” principle black parents teach their children.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:41:43am

re: #288 Sir John Barron

And again, what’s weird, why not just accept this if you’re Trump? Say it didn’t influence or cause his election, but condemn it nonetheless. Say you’ll defend all Americans and American political parties against outside interference. But that’s too much for him, apparently.

Instead he’s full-throttle denying its Russia, blaming US IC, the Democratic Party for being hacked, the media for talking about it, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:43:17am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s worried about his legitimacy more than the country. Fuck him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:43:22am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:45:24am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course. He’s a fucking fraud all the way down to his stupid hats.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:46:47am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

Obama needs to troll him on this. Say something to the affect that if Trump doesn’t start producing his brands in the US, the government should put tariffs on his products.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:46:57am

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:47:08am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

Instead he’s full-throttle denying its Russia, blaming US IC, the Democratic Party for being hacked, the media for talking about it, etc.

This would be a great opportunity for Trump to actually stand up for America, as he claims he wants to do. But he isn’t, and he won’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:49:17am

You know what, I don’t care that Podesta had a weak password. That guy who hacked into Sarah Palin’s email account was still punished. And yes Clinton should have done a better job campaigning but the Russian influence was so much more than just the hacking of emails, it was also spreading misinformation (fake news) and if people don’t think that tipped the scales in some way, they’re delusional.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:50:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:51:52am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:56:16am

re: #222 electrotek

Guess she’s got something to prove after converting:

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Wonder what she thinks about Jesus?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:00:41am

OH. MY. G-D.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:01:44am

re: #196 Belafon

Twitter is blocked at work.

apologies! I should have known….

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:02:03am

re: #301 The Vicious Babushka

OH. MY. G-D.
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I hate to keep having to ask for this, but what? I can’t do facebook at work either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:03:10am
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BlueGrl21  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:04:13am

re: #296 Sir John Barron

This would be a great opportunity for Trump to actually stand up for America, as he claims he wants to do. But he isn’t, and he won’t.

We’re trying to ascribe normal, sane motives to Trump. If we’re going to survive his new hobby of pretending he’s King of America, we have to stop that.

Trump is a narcissist. Really. All he cares about is attention, positive and negative, and himself. His family to the degree he feels they are extensions of him and make him look good. And business associates that he can con for money. That’s it.

Everything he does is for attention. He wants the fights. It feeds his supply. He wants the protests against him, it’s attention. He wants the rants against him. And he must, must make sure his ego and authority are not challenged, that he is “respected.” You see that all over everything he says, “respect.”

This latest issue is because he thinks the intelligence community disrespected him by going to the press. Ego hit.

The best thing to do is cut him off and ignore his tweets and hyperbole. Don’t let it throw you into fear or despair or paranoia because it’s smoke and mirrors. It’s designed to throw you into fear. He hasn’t actually done anything and no one knows what he will do. So we’re going to have to be living one issue, one day, at a time during this mess, and responding as each thing actually happens.

Otherwise he’ll fuck with your head because he knows it gets him attention. And when we spread these tweets and react to them we’re getting him more attention.

Is it hard to look away? Yes. He’s an entertainer, he knows what he’s doing and how to create a car wreck you can’t look away from. But he also knows how to write a script of lies so you’ll pay attention for ratings.

It goes against everything in me to ignore his tweets but i’ve forbidden it to be discussed in my house. We will talk about reality, not this funhouse he is creating.

The good thing about narcissists is they tend to always overreach because they underestimate the intelligence of others. They think they’re smarter than everyone else so they can get away with breaking rules and no one will catch on. That’s why we have to fight him via Congress as best we can. We have to push Congress on things like Russian hacking and his business dealings. That’s the rift that has to be created, Trump and Congress.

The Democrats in Congress understand this. They will play both sides to turn house Republicans and Trump against each other. When there are rifts they will choose sides and switch between them to make sure that Trump and Congress never completely align with each other.

This is long but it’s important. Trump is wired differently than many of us can comprehend. He has to be managed differently. We have to react to him differently. We have to remember what his real priorities will always be and they have nothing to do with this country. Nothing.

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(alpuz)  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:04:31am

re: #303 Belafon

I hate to keep having to ask for this, but what? I can’t do facebook at work either.

It’s a massive 3 lb cinnamon roll. The death of any diabetic.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:04:35am

re: #303 Belafon

I hate to keep having to ask for this, but what? I can’t do facebook at work either.

a 3-lb cinnamon bun.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:06:55am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:07:35am

Electoral College certification starting now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:07:51am

re: #305 BlueGrl21

The good thing about narcissists is they tend to always overreach because they underestimate the intelligence of others. They think they’re smarter than everyone else so they can get away with breaking rules and no one will catch on.

Who was it that said that nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the US public?

This man just achieved the highest office in the land by breaking every rule of sane and intelligent politics.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:08:34am

re: #302 retired cynic

apologies! I should have known….

That’s OK. I can pick up the tweets people post here, so it might seem that I have some form of access. I just can do anything directly related to twitter.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:09:15am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who was it that said that nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the US public?
.

P. T. Barnum

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:09:23am
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:10:23am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

What pretty much defines not just Trumpism, but the precursor substrate in which it emerged, is that there’s no line between the personal and the political, let alone such a fine distinction as “this is necessary for national security.” I mean, there’s a tendency to jump to narcissism as a diagnosis, a pathology, but—lots of people learn the old-fashioned way that only they matter. Like I keep saying, if you’re vain or arrogant enough, then you don’t struggle with the gulf between cynicism and idealism. Same side, different coin: if you’re vain or arrogant enough, then “the nation,” and “my personal bullshit” are not separate baskets.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:11:19am

re: #305 BlueGrl21

So, maybe, in calling out Trump, we should be saying something like “Russia thinks they can control you. The best presidents don’t let other countries tell them what to do.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:11:52am

Massachusetts just objected to Alabama’s count.
Biden overruled it because there was no objection in writing filed signed by a member of the Senate.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:13:08am

re: #301 The Vicious Babushka

OH. MY. G-D.

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Good grief.

They also completed the video without saying “Everything is bigger in Texas”! Impressive. Most impressive.

(Personally nothing has beaten the cinnamon rolls I made from Rombauer’s recipe with a dash of cardamom.)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:13:53am

Sorry (not sorry), but this guy is a flippin’ idiot.

Republican Obamacare fan hopes Trump’s stance softens

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wrenchwench  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:14:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:15:46am

objection to Florida’s count.
overruled for the same reason given earlier.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:16:25am

re: #318 GlutenFreeJesus

Sorry (not sorry), but this guy is a flippin’ idiot.

Republican Obamacare fan hopes Trump’s stance softens

Until people start voting for the things that take care of them rather than a party, we will never be any better.

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wrenchwench  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:16:30am

re: #317 Pawn of the Oppressor

Good grief.

They also completed the video without saying “Everything is bigger in Texas”! Impressive. Most impressive.

(Personally nothing has beaten the cinnamon rolls I made from Rombauer’s recipe with a dash of cardamom.)

Everything’s better with a dash of cardamom.

What year’s Joy? I have 1963 and 1979 or so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:16:50am

objection to Georgia’s count.
Biden shuts it down.
“It is over” — Biden

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:16:59am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

objection to Florida’s count.
overruled for the same reason given earlier.

When was the last time the EC was ever watched with this much interest.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:17:23am

re: #319 wrenchwench

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In addition to all the great cars I saw on my Sunday ride, there was a woman walking her black Lab on a trail next to the road. The dog had a 5 foot long branch, which he was carrying happily, without letting it drag on the ground. What a good doggie!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:17:30am

re: #318 GlutenFreeJesus

Sorry (not sorry), but this guy is a flippin’ idiot.

Republican Obamacare fan hopes Trump’s stance softens

Kind of like wishing for a bear trap to be a more tender lover.

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blueraven  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:17:40am

oh shit. MSNBC reporting. Shooter in custody Ft Lauderdale airport. 9 shot 1 dead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:17:59am

Bernie gets an EC from Hawaii

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:18:27am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:18:28am

re: #308 lawhawk

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:18:45am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

Had to troll with that. :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:18:53am

re: #327 blueraven

oh shit. MSNBC reporting. Shooter inn custody Ft Lauderdale airport. 9 shot 1 dead.

Oh, hey! Guess whose wife is supposed to be flying out of Ft Lauderdale Airport on Sunday?

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BlueGrl21  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:19:23am

re: #315 Belafon

So, maybe, in calling out Trump, we should be saying something like “Russia thinks they can control you. The best presidents don’t let other countries tell them what to do.”

“The Russians apparently don’t respect you at all. They think you’re not strong enough to challenge them. They think they’re smarter than you and they can manipulate you into doing what they want. They want to hurt your brand and the Trump brand MATTERS in the world.

It’s actually about you. They’re trying to show the world that you don’t deserve respect and you’re not strong or smart enough to see it.

You’re smarter than that. You’ve been a successful businessman for years and you know when someone is trying to con you. You know best what to do. I just think you deserve more respect than that.”

That’s how.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:19:32am

re: #329 FormerDirtDart

Did Fleischer have his gun? //

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:19:49am

re: #318 GlutenFreeJesus

Sorry (not sorry), but this guy is a flippin’ idiot.

Republican Obamacare fan hopes Trump’s stance softens

There’s a lot like him in this country.

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wrenchwench  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:19:59am

re: #325 Blind Frog Belly White

In addition to all the great cars I saw on my Sunday ride, there was a woman walking her black Lab on a trail next to the road. The dog had a 5 foot long branch, which he was carrying happily, without letting it drag on the ground. What a good doggie!

Watch out for those spokes, doggie!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:20:38am

re: #321 Belafon

Until people start voting for the things that take care of them rather than a party, we will never be any better.

Exactly, people need to stop treating their parties as teams.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:20:52am

good fucking grief

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:21:01am

re: #333 BlueGrl21

“The Russians apparently don’t respect you at all. They think you’re not strong enough to challenge them. They think they’re smarter than you and they can manipulate you into doing what they want. They want to hurt your brand and the Trump brand MATTERS in the world.

It’s actually about you. They’re trying to show the world that you don’t deserve respect and you’re not strong or smart enough to see it.

You’re smarter than that. You’ve been a successful businessman for years and you know when someone is trying to con you. You know best what to do. I just think you deserve more respect than that.”

That’s how.

I don’t think his servile obsequiousness to Putin and Russia is a choice on his part.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:21:26am

re: #327 blueraven

oh shit. MSNBC reporting. Shooter inn custody Ft Lauderdale airport. 9 shot 1 dead.

Cue the gun nuts whining about airports being gun free zones.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:21:40am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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That sounds like Chuckie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:22:20am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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That makes me hope more than ever Assenge gets ruined. This guy’s a disgraceful asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:22:46am

objection to Michigan’s count. This objection mentions Russian interference.
Biden shuts her down.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:23:08am

Well, mr. klys was supposed to have an interview this afternoon.

Instead, he’s in bed with a fever, sore throat, and aches, and I’m hoping I don’t catch whatever he has. Sigh. We’re supposed to go up and do something in the city tomorrow too that was part of my Christmas present. (I have no idea what it is and was really looking forward to finding out.)

Time to go check on him and then go run 8 miles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:24:57am

Objection to Mississippi
rinse repeat

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:25:08am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Cue the gun nuts whining about airports being gun free zones.

they could have stopped 9-11 if the passengers had been armed!

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:25:26am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

OK. I’m torn. This will kill twitter so fast it would make your head spin.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:26:03am
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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:26:08am

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

Objection to Mississippi
rinse repeat

I think it’s pointless, but if this is what’s to come from Democrats for the next few years, I’m kind of happy.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:28:02am

re: #322 wrenchwench

Everything’s better with a dash of cardamom.

What year’s Joy? I have 1963 and 1979 or so.

67 or later, exact year uncertain. Cream cover, blue inside paper with a late 60’s/early-70’s illustrated logo pattern. My housemate has an earlier edition with a checkered cover. I’m not sure now if my ex & I cooked the rolls entirely from JOC, or used an Emeril or Alton recipe, but for sure I picked up the cardamom tip from there. The result was astonishing and now all conventional cinnamon rolls seem weak and sad in comparison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:28:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:29:19am

re: #348 Jebediah, RBG

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Oh but I thought that information should be available to everyone. //

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wrenchwench  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:29:43am

re: #344 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, mr. klys was supposed to have an interview this afternoon.

Instead, he’s in bed with a fever, sore throat, and aches, and I’m hoping I don’t catch whatever he has. Sigh. We’re supposed to go up and do something in the city tomorrow too that was part of my Christmas present. (I have no idea what it is and was really looking forward to finding out.)

Time to go check on him and then go run 8 miles.

And he can call you in the middle of mile 4 if he needs you?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:30:06am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Friday - Damn!!

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:30:29am

And in today’s excellent condiment news…

The friend who got us a nice gift basket with those kickass bacon pickles last year got us another basket this year, with a nice fresh jar of those same pickles which I just had on my sammich.

My taste buds haz a happy. I love these pickles.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:31:22am

re: #353 wrenchwench

And he can call you in the middle of mile 4 if he needs you?

Sure. I’ll be on my way home soon after that anyway. (Out and back.)

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BlueGrl21  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:34:26am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who was it that said that nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the US public?

This man just achieved the highest office in the land by breaking every rule of sane and intelligent politics.

Correct. Because he understands what people wanted to hear to get him elected and has no compunction about lying. it’s not even a blip on his moral radar.

It’s also much bigger than Trump. It’s human tribalism kicking into gear by the belief that immigration is causing us to lose our geographic territory, common rituals and symbols, and protection as a group. it’s as primitive an impulse as it gets. That’s where the whole extreme vetting comes in….”We’ll let in the people that are the most like us that we think will assimilate.” The walls he pushes are to create defined geographic territory.

It’s not an issue in the cities because we already live in melting pots here. We already know globalism and multiculturalism is not a threat because we see it all around us. But rural areas have already decided to live in a specific culture….or they’d have moved to cities because rural areas are often poor. And that tribalism is often all they have left.

Now, throw in “wealthy white culture” as a factor. Keeping that top niche. Those people are country club Republicans that formed an alliance with Trump because they thought he’d push their fiscal agenda….lower taxes, deregulation, etc. People wonder why white women voted for Trump? Culture and tribe first, always.

Trump tapped into that very primitive response easily. The lizard brain part of humans, the lowest level on Maslow’s hierarchy. That’s why he won.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:35:20am

Ron Paul and Kasich each get an EC from TExas.

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wrenchwench  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:35:37am

re: #350 Pawn of the Oppressor

67 or later, exact year uncertain. Cream cover, blue inside paper with a late 60’s/early-70’s illustrated logo pattern. My housemate has an earlier edition with a checkered cover. I’m not sure now if my ex & I cooked the rolls entirely from JOC, or used an Emeril or Alton recipe, but for sure I picked up the cardamom tip from there. The result was astonishing and now all conventional cinnamon rolls seem weak and sad in comparison.

My older one still has squirrel-skinning in it. The cover is blue, we won’t talk about the color of the pages.

I put cardamom in my oatmeal. I got it for aebleskivers.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:38:55am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:39:53am

re: #355 makeitstop

And in today’s excellent condiment news…

The friend who got us a nice gift basket with those kickass bacon pickles last year got us another basket this year, with a nice fresh jar of those same pickles which I just had on my sammich.

My taste buds haz a happy. I love these pickles.

Ooh! I just re-checked the basket and she also got us a jar of pickled cherries!

Imma have to try those in a minute.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:42:32am

and it is now official.
DJT is president.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:43:24am
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blueraven  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:43:57am

re: #327 blueraven

oh shit. MSNBC reporting. Shooter in custody Ft Lauderdale airport. 9 shot 1 dead.

Damn. Now they are saying 3 dead.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:44:42am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

and it is now official.
DJT is president.

Fuck that guy.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:44:45am
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wrenchwench  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:44:49am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

and it is now official.
DJT is president.

Goddamnit. First the swearing…

368
Skip Intro  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:45:31am

Third lien on Trump hotel brings alleged unpaid bills to over $5 million

washingtonpost.com

Unpresidented!

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I cannot.  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:45:33am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

Anyone know some less-than-totally-insane prepper sites?

Asking for a friend.

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:46:22am

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

Go away Jenna, we don’t want you. Take Ivanka with you.

You’ll love this exchange from “Grace and Frankie.” During a visit to Frankie’s house (Frankie is Jewish), a visitor, who has brought a Jesus statue as a gift asks:

So what kind of Christians are you?

Frankie answers:

The Jewish kind.

Lady responds:

Oh, the originals.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:47:33am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:49:51am
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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:50:56am

re: #355 makeitstop

I bought them on your recommendation! Delish!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:52:20am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

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Also, fuck Bernie supporters.

Assholes.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:54:43am

re: #371 Charles Johnson

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But government “surveillance” is super tyranny.

//

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:54:59am

re: #373 Stanley Sea

I bought them on your recommendation! Delish!

Just as good the second year! :)

I’ll let you know on the cherries. They’re ‘Vanilla and Tarragon.’

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:55:59am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:57:21am
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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:58:17am

re: #371 Charles Johnson

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First the suggestion that Obama should have shared secret data with them before Congress, now this. Wikileaks is presuming more and more authority and Assange is acting just like an elected leader to whom others are answerable.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:59:13am

I like that Wikileaks is now using “anonymous” as a pejorative.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:00:16am

So when do our intel peeps feed Trump total bullshit to see what makes it to the Russians? Soon, I hope.

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A Cranky One  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:02:13am

It’s 4 degrees outside.

Glad the little one has her fur blanket.

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harlequinade  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:04:33am

re: #360 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

I was just thinking this. Suppose it’s just because he’s so thin skinned he hates the idea that someone else helped him win?

Not that it makes it any better….

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:04:36am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:04:58am
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:05:52am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:07:23am
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:09:43am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:14:28am

re: #303 Belafon

I hate to keep having to ask for this, but what? I can’t do facebook at work either.

A cinnamon roll the size of a birthday cake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:14:59am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:36:36am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

We are looking for clear discrete (father/shareholding/party membership) variables that can be put into our AI software. Other suggestions?

— WikiLeaks Task Force

Great. Rage Furby works for Wikileaks.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:39:30am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

That makes me hope more than ever Assenge gets ruined. This guy’s a disgraceful asshole.

Real assholes are needed. Assange…not so much.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:28:35pm

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